* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] GRACIOUS HEAVEN, FATHER, WE THINK IS PRIVILEGED OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER LIKE THIS TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS. WE THINK THE FOR THE BEAUTIFUL DAY LIKE THIS AND THE WONDERFUL WEATHER, UH, AS USUAL, LOOK DOWN UPON OUR TRUTH WITH FAVOR. IF THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY, PLEASE BRING THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ALL, ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IS AVAILABLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL TEXAS. I ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVIDUAL. UH, I'M GONNA JUMP DOWN HERE TO, UH, ITEM AGENDA. NO HONOR. PROVIDE A COPY MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING FOR ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS. IF THERE ARE, I WOULD MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW, SECONDED BY ALL MOTION IS LEE HERE, YET YOU COME FORWARD PLEASE. LEE'S GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT TO CONSIDER TAX FOR A PACKAGING. UM, GENTLEMEN, GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL HERE TODAY. UM, THE C KAUFMAN HAS, UH, AND UNDER THEIR POLICY, AND BY THE WAY, ALL CITY'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A TAX POLICY HAS, UH, GRANTED A, A TAX ABATEMENT TO, UH, A BOX PACKAGING, WHICH IS A, A, UH, CITY OF KAUFMAN MANUFACTURER. AND THEY ACTUALLY LEASE, UH, TWO BUILDINGS, AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY RECENTLY LEASED A THIRD BUILDING FOR COFFMAN. AND THEY MANUFACTURE, UH, PRINTED CARPETS. UH, THEY USE FOUR AND SIX TOTAL PROCESS AND, AND USE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PRINTING PRESSES. AND THEIR, UM, THEIR MARKET IS NATIONAL AND SOMETIMES INTERNATIONAL. AND THEY EMPLOY, UM, ACTUALLY WHEN THE NEW OWNERS, KEITH TS AND BOUGHT THE COMPANY ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, THEY EMPLOYED ABOUT 55 60 PEOPLE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 45, 50 PEOPLE. AND THEY DOUBLED IN SIZE IN THREE YEARS. THEY TRIPLED GROSS INCOME AND, AND THEY'RE IN A REALLY, REALLY GROSS MOVE MODE. AND, UM, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS, IS THIS TAX, UH, PURCHASED SOME MORE EQUIPMENT THAT'S GONNA BE WORTH, UH, I THINK THE VALUE IS AROUND $2 MILLION. AND, UM, ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF HAM TAX RUST, ASKING THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO ALSO ABATE THOSE TAXES 100% PER YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS. AND THIS WILL BE IN EFFECT NEW BUSINESS. YES, IT'S NEW INVESTMENT IN HAM. DO THEY STILL DO THE, UH, UH, CARDBOARD PACKAGES? UH, LONG RANCH TO KEITH? TELL WHAT THEY STILL DO. I USED TO A BOX USED TO, UH, HAVE THE CARDBOARD PACKAGE AROUND THE, UH, UH, LOAN RATS THAT SERVICE THE, WHAT THEY CALLED NOW OR NOT CALLED LONG RATS ANYMORE. THEY'RE, UH, NOT C ANYMORE C BUT YEAH, WE STILL DO THE COMP. WE DON'T DO THOSE ANY LONGER. OKAY. NO, WE'VE CHANGED DIRECTIONS. WE'RE A, LIKE LEE SAID, WE'RE A, A NATIONAL SUPPLIER TO A LOT OF MAJOR CORPORATIONS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, FROM RENO TO CALIFORNIA TO BOSTON. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS IN SOUTH TEXAS, UH, WHICH WE HAVE TWO, TWO FACILITIES THERE. ONE IN SAN ANTONIO AND ONE IN HOUSTON. SO A BOX'S CHANGED DIRECTION OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, UH, FROM A MANUFACTURING [00:05:01] PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, FOOD WE SERVICE. SO THEY, THIS WILL HELP THEM, UH, EXPAND AND BRING IN MORE BUSINESS AND, UH, HELP OUR TAX BASE. AND I HOPE, I HOPE TO BE HERE A YEAR FROM NOW AND DOING ANOTHER $2 MILLION IN EXPANSION WITH THEM IF THEIR BUSINESS GOES ACCORDING TO THEIR WORK PLAN. WE'LL BE BACK HERE AGAIN. Y'ALL, UH, DO ANYTHING WITH, I WORK FOR THE EDC AND, UH, HERE, KAUFMAN, AND MATTER OF FACT, YOU AGAIN, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S, I WAS FOR 12 YEARS , I RETIRED FROM THAT PROFESSION. AND, UM, BUT ACTUALLY OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS OFFERED THEM A $4,000 PER JOB GRANT ON THE NEW JOBS THAT THEY'RE ADDING WITH THIS, WITH THIS LATEST EXPANSION, THEY'RE EXPECTED TO, UH, ADD 20 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES. AND THAT TECHNICALLY BETWEEN JULY OF 2007 AND JULY OF 2008. AND IF THEY MEET THAT GOAL, WHICH WE THINK THEY WILL, THEN WE'RE GONNA WRITE 'EM AN 80,000 CHECK. YES. SO THE CITY'S ALREADY GRANTED UP AND THE COLLEGE DISCIPLINE AND, UM, AND YOUR, UH, YOUR EDC IS TRYING TO HELP THEM. SO WE JUST NEED TO DO OUR PART. YOU HOPE YOU'LL, I MORE QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. DOES THE COUNTY HAVE POLICY? YEAH, WE, UH, WE HAVE A COMMITTEE FOR GROUP MATERIAL. UH, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMITTEE GROUP COFFMAN, BECAUSE THEY SELDOM BRING ANYTHING TO US. WE TAKE COFFMAN ON INDIVIDUAL BASIS. YOU MENTIONED CHAPTER THREE 12 TAX POLICY. THERE'S BEEN ONE IN EFFECT FOR YEARS. I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT RECENTLY. WELL, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COURT FOR THREE YEARS, I THINK, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME MY FROM KAUFMAN OR FROM, FROM ANYWHERE FROM KAMAN. YEAH. I WAS DIGGING THE, UH, COURT'S PERMISSION TO SPEAK. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION OF YOUR POLICY WAS TO DO WHATEVER THE CITY DO. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT IN WRITING POLICY. NO, IT'S NOT. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT. THAT'S THAT UNWRITTEN POLICY. THE CITY ASKED US TO DO SOMETHING. AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THE COURT, WE'VE NEVER GONE AGAINST THE CITY. THE CITY. WELL, I THINK THAT EXCEPT JUDGE. EXCEPT FOR WHAT? THE DEAL AROUND SQUARE HERE. YEAH. SQUARE AND WASHINGTON CORRIDOR. YOU GUYS GONNA PAY FOR THAT BEFORE THIS OVER I ABOUT THAT? UM, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST BUSINESS THAT'S COME TO US FROM KAUFMAN SINCE I'VE BEEN ON HERE. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD MUCH OF THAT. UH, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ON A, AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. WELL, WELL, THE OTHER ISSUE WAS, WAS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO FIX UP THEIR BUSINESSES. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AT ALL, EC OFFERED ALL KINDS OF MONIES TO HELP THEM. NOBODY WOULD TAKE IT. AND SO YOU CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT, UH, TAX THIS SITUATION. SO, UH, BUT JIM, IF IT'LL EASE YOUR MIND, WE CAN PASS THIS AND MAKE A SUBJECT TO US RESEARCHING THE RECORDS AND MAKING SURE IT'S, IT'S ON FILE. I, I I LOOK AT A TAX AGREEMENT AS AN INCENTIVE, AS A, UH, AN INVESTMENT FOR THE COUNTY IN THIS CASE AND ALSO ALSO FOR THE CITY OF COTTON. UH, AND THE, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, THAT COME TO MIND IS, NUMBER ONE, WOULD HE DO, WOULD THIS, UH, EXPANSION HAPPEN WITHOUT THE TAX ABATE? THAT'S, THAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR TAX ABATE AS AN INCENTIVE TO GROW OR BRING BUSINESSES COMMUNITY. IF THE COUNTY GIVES A TAX ABATE, HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE GROWTH AND INCREASE APPRAISAL, INCREASE VALUE. OBVIOUSLY IT'LL BE GREAT FOR THE CITY OF COFFMAN. WHAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE COUNTY? THERE'S GONNA BE RETURN FOR THE CITY. COUNTY'S GONNA GET THAT TOO. YEAH, I, THAT'S WHAT, AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS. 15 MILLION, IS THAT INVENTORY IN HERE? IS THAT INVENTORY NUMBER, IS THAT, IS THAT A PROPOSED, UH, VALUE? [00:10:05] WE HAVE. WE HAVE TAX GUIDELINES THAT WE RENEW EVERY TWO YEARS. LONG IS ONE. I SAID, I KNOW. WE'RE TRYING NOT TO ENCOURAGE THAT ANYMORE. THIS IS FIRST, I KNOW THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. ADDITIONAL REVENUE, WHICH, WHAT IS THIS? A LITTLE NOT AS, AS DANGEROUS AS THEY SAY. ONE OF OUR SEMINARS. NO, THERE'S NO SALES TAX INVOLVED. THIS IS A MANUFACTURER. IT'S ABOVE, BUT FOUR. BUT FOUR. THIS IS, THIS IS HIS GROSS REVENUE. THIS IS HIS GROSS REVENUE. IS THERE SOME LIABILITY? I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S EVEN, BUT THEY, THEY CHANGED THIS FROM 400 TO A HUNDRED PER YEAR. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE DISCUSSION GOING. I SAY, WELL, IT'S FOUR, FOUR YEARS. SO THAT'S THE SAME THING AS 100% PER YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS. WE SHOULD ASK YOU FIRST, JIM, HERE'S THAT RESOLUTION. UH, I THINK ONE THING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THIS PROGRAM WOULD GO FORWARD IF WE DIDN'T DO A, A TAX ABATEMENT FORM, IN MY MIND, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE TIP. IT PROBABLY WILL GO FORWARD SOMETIME, BUT IF WE DO THIS WITH 'EM NOW, CC IS DOING THIS, THEN MAYBE THIS WILL HELP IT GO FORWARD A LITTLE QUICKER. AND, UH, THAT WAY WE WILL, UH, GET BACK INTO COLLECTING OUR TAXES A LITTLE FASTER. SO I ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, THAT, UM, THE COMPANY OWNS FACILITIES IN TWO OTHER CITIES TOO. YEAH. AND THEY'RE LEA HERE. MY COMMUNITY'S TRYING TO MAKE A STATEMENT. WE WANT YOU HERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHEN THEIR LEASE IS UP WITH THE, UH, WITH LOUIS ARMSTRONG ON TWO FACILITIES THEY'VE HAD FOR SOME YEARS, I WANT THEM TO, TO BUILD THAT NEXT, YOU KNOW, 250,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN KALIN COUNTY AND NOT IN BEAR COUNTY OR, OR, UH, TARRANT COUNTY WHERE THEY HAVE A FACILITY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE TO 'EM THAT, UM, THAT WE, WE REALLY LIKE TO HAVE 'EM HERE AND KEEP 'EM HERE. BY THE WAY, THEY'RE A, THEY'RE OUR, THEY'RE AMONG OUR HIGHEST WAGE PAYING MANUFACTURER IN KAUFMAN. THEY, UM, THEY, THEY PROVIDE GOOD HEALTH BENEFITS, RETIREMENT BENEFIT. THEY HAVE VERY, VERY LITTLE TURNOVER. UM, YOU KNOW, BY A LOT OF DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT THE BEST MANUFACTURER THAT WE'VE GOT. WE'D REALLY LIKE TO KEEP FROM HEALTHY AND WATCH 'EM GROW HERE FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS, I THINK. DON'T GRANT IT. I THINK WE'RE SEEING BAD MESSAGE UP THERE. ME TOO, JUDGE. ONE TIME I'D CONSIDERED MORE THAN THAT. YOU ALWAYS LIKE TO THINK ABOUT 1970 WHEN FORD MOTOR COMPANY ASKED THE CITY OF DALLAS TO CLOSE THAT STREET NEXT TO INSIDE THE FOR PLANT. 'CAUSE THEY HAD BOUGHT THE LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND THEY WENT TO CITY COUNCIL IN DALLAS, SAID, WE'D LIKE TO CLOSE THAT STREET, BUT WE COULD BUILD OUR PLANT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ACROSS WHERE THE STREET IS. WE NEED THAT TO MODERNIZE THOSE 19, UH, 24TH PLANT THEY WERE MAKING 1970 AUTOMOBILES WAS A 1924 PLANT. AND, UH, THEY MET WITH CITY COUNCIL AT 11 O'CLOCK THAT MORNING. CITY COUNCIL SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT FOR YOU. ONE O'CLOCK FORD. NOW THEY'RE LEAVING DALLAS AND THEY LEFT DALLAS. WHAT? WELL THEN THE LIGHT OF THAT JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE PRETTY MUCH THE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND. I SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LEE. THANK YOU. IS HAL HERE? WHERE'S HAL? THERE'S HAL. YOU GOT A REPORT FOR, UH, JANUARY 4TH. NOW YOU GOT 15 MINUTES TO GO THROUGH [00:15:01] THE REPORT. BE ON MY DESK THIS WEEK IF Y'ALL WANT. COME BY AND LOOK AND SEE HOW YOUR FUNDS ARE, HOW THEY ARE. WE ENTERTAIN. MOTION TO ACCEPT PATRICK REPORT. SO MAY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR? A MOTION CARRIED, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROVING LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MATERIAL TO INSTALL MOBILE DATA SYSTEMS EQUIPMENT ON MATERIAL CITY WATER TOWER, LOCATED AT 5 0 3 PORT ROAD, TEXAS. I SAID KATHY, BACK THERE. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PROGRAM THAT YOU AND THE SHERIFF HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. YEP. SHOULD BE THE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, GUYS? NO, WE, WE TALKED. THIS IS THE LAST OF, LAST OF THE, I'M HOPING SO. YEAH. MC SECOND BACK TO MR. ALL IN FAIR TO SAY. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. UH, NEXT DISCUSS WITH CENTER PROVEN ROAD TO PARIS FOR 10TH AND 11TH STREET IN THE CITY OF KEMP. AM I MISSED ONE? YES, MA'AM. TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER THAT'S WHY MR. MURPHY'S HERE. YES. HE WOULDN'T BE HAPPY. YEAH. WELL, I JUST CHECKED THE WRONG THING. I WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT GOING THROUGH THIS AGENDA. UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER PERMANENTLY MOVING THE POLLING PLACE, UH, FOR PRECINCT ONE FROM THE OLD MORNING STAR CHURCH HOFFMAN TO ST. ANN'S CATHOLIC CHURCH. 8 0 6 NORTH WASHINGTON STREET IN HOFFMAN, TEXAS. THINK YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? EVERYBODY KNOWS IF THAT PLACE IS A RESTAURANT. NOW, I GUESS THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO CLOSE THAT ONE DAY TO LET US GO OVER THERE. WE, WE DIDN'T EVEN ASK THEM. THE USED TO BE AT ST. ANN'S AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS CHANGED UP HERE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT PERMISSION TO GO BACK TO ST. ANN'S. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION JUDGE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN COURTESY. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE CITY STREETS IN KEN. I THINK, UH, I THINK I GAVE, UH, JUDGE HAS TWO COPIES. TWO ORIGINALS, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE TWO ORIGINALS SOMEWHERE. 10TH AND 11TH STREET ARE JUST POTHOLES MORE THAN ROADS. UM, THEY NEED A LITTLE, LITTLE ROCK, LITTLE ASPHALT. AND THIS, THIS JOB IS, YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY LAST PAGE. THIS JOB IS CONTINGENT ON AS SOON AS IT WARMS UP, WE'LL GET TO IT. PLUS WE'RE GOING TO CHIP SEAL IT. BUT I HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM A PRICE ON THE CHIP CEILING YET, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS. SO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT WARMS UP. I LIKE THE WAY YOU GOT EVERYTHING ITEMIZED AND BROKEN DOWN WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. HE DID. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. YE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. UH, EMBARK WANTS TO PUT A BURIED CABLE ACROSS COUNTY ROAD 2 9 7. AND THAT'S IN PRECINCT ONE, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS 2 9 7. YOU KNOW THE FIRST NUMBER PRECINCT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. YEAH. PRECINCT TWO IS GIVING AWAY ALL ITS RULES. YEAH, I THINK THEY MEAN 2 79. JUDGE INSTEAD. 2 97. UH, 2 7 9. YEAH. I HATE TO APPEAR IGNORANT, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW OF A 2 97 AND I APPRECIATE YOU DON'T HAVE A 2 97. WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. [00:20:01] WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, PROVE IT WITH THE PROPER YES. STAY ON HERE. TWO, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PROVE IT AS 2 79. AND, UH, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO FILE A PETITION WITH THE COURT TO SET THAT ASIDE, THEN WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA. OKAY? THE PROPER WORD. THAT'S WITH ME, JUDGE. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. MOTION TO ALLOW THEM TO BURY THE CABLE ON THE COUNTY ROAD. 2 7 9. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, THAT BRINGS THIS AROUND TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. DID I SKIP ANYTHING ELSE? THE LINE ITEM DO. OKAY. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UM, UNDER SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 OF DETECTIVE, LOCAL GOVERNOR CODE, UH, REFERENCE DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY. UM, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE INTO AN EXECUTIVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES NOW ONE. YEAH. NOW, JUST BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE DOESN'T MEAN Y'ALL CAN'T GO TO THAT. YEAH, IT'S PUBLIC MEETING, BUT, UH, THE VOTING MEMBERS ARE RAY AND MYSELF AND MR. BLA, UH, MR. BLAINE IS OUR, UH, UH, WHAT'S HE CALLED? THE, THE SMART GUY IN GROUP. THE SMART GUY IN THE GROUP? YES. BUT THEY'VE GOT A NAME FOR IT. , THAT'S AT SEVEN 30, RIGHT? SIX 30. SIX 30 KAUFMAN HIGH SCHOOL. OKAY, WE'RE BACK IN, UH, OPEN SESSION. UH, THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TAKING ANY ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. JEFF, YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT? YES, SIR. UH, JUDGE, THE COURT AUTHORIZED ME TO NEGOTIATE WITH, UH, DARREN RELLE, UH, PROPERTY ADJACENT TO UH, FOUR SUB COURTHOUSE. AND I HAVE A CONTRACT SUBMITTED BY MR. R IN THE AMOUNT OF 525,000. AND IF THAT FIGURE MEET WITH YOU GUYS, I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT PROPERTY. COMMISSIONER CLARK, THAT'S YOUR PRECINCT. WHAT'S THE I MOVE. AND WE ACCEPT THE CONTRACT. JACK HAS A RETAIN MOTION MADE, UH, BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER D. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU JACK. UM, WHEN YOU GET THAT CONTRACT, I MEAN IT'S THE ACTUAL REAL ESTATE CONTRACT. I WANT. LOOK IT OVER. SINCE THE FOURTH OF MY BUSINESS, MR. BE REAL ESTATE LAW. I HOW BIG, UH, 1.7 ACRES, UH, EMBARK. WE DID EMBARK ON 2 79. WE DID THAT. OKAY, NOW, JUDY, WE'RE DOWN TO THE LINE. ITEM TRANSFER. YES, SIR. WE PROPOSED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND JURY FUND SWITCH BETWEEN GRAND JURORS AND PET JURORS OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS CONSTABLE PRECINCT. FOUR, INCREASED OFFICE FURNITURE AND NEW EQUIPMENT, $700 REDUCTION IN MISCELLANEOUS AND CHILD SHELTER, INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS, 1000 WITH REDUCTION TO GAS AND OIL ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT. FOUR, INCREASED TOOLS AND NEW EQUIPMENT. 40,000 REDUCTION IN ROAD MATERIALS AND IN JUVENILE PROBATION. INTENSIVE SUPERVISION. INCREASED NON-RESIDENTIAL COUNTY EXPENSES OF 300 WITH REDUCTION IN NEW EQUIPMENT. GENTLEMEN, BERG, THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER. THERE IS NO DISCUSSION ON THEM. WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ALL MOTION CARRIES [00:25:04] SUPPOSED TO PUT EQUIPMENT. JEFF SAID HE WAS GONNA BUY THAT. UH, MAJOR EXPENSE THAT MADE COMING UP AT THE JUVENILE IS AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM SYSTEM. IT'S, UH, GIVEN THEM TROUBLE FOR SEVERAL YEARS. SO WE'RE THEY, THEY'RE USING, UH, BUBBLE GUM AND UH, DUCT TAPE NOW. AND SO WE'LL SEE HOW LAST EVER TAKE ANYTHING WITH BUBBLE GUM? NOT EVERY ISSUE. SURE. JUST PLUG UP THE HOLES, . OKAY, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE YOUR MONEY FACING. JACK, WOULD YOU GO, WOULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR, JACK? TAKE THIS TO ANGIE AND TELL HER WE NEED, UH, FIVE COPIES OF IT, PLEASE. IN SOMEBODY'S THANK YOU. JACK. YES. RESERVATION 15 KAUFMAN CHAMBER AT KAUFMAN HIGH SCHOOL. OKAY. 19, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY. IT'S 47. NINE MM-HMM . 40 SATURDAY NIGHT. 40 SATURDAY NIGHT. OH, TUESDAY NIGHT IS KAUFMAN. OKAY. HAD YOUR WORD THERE FOR MINUTE. HAD ME THERE. GO SEE HOW NO. KAUFMAN'S TONIGHT. SATURDAY. NICE. TUESDAY. SO, YEAH, SO KALIN IS TONIGHT BEFORE WILL BE OVER. IT ALL GOES WELL BY SEVEN 30. IT STARTS AT SIX AND IT DOESN'T, IT THEY DON'T CARRY. YEAH. THEY DON'T EVEN TAKE TIME TO INTRODUCE ELECTED OFFICIALS. . NO, THEY DON'T. THEY MIGHT ASK THEM TO RISE. THEY'RE ABOUT TO RUDE PEOPLE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER. THEY ALL KNOW. WE USED TO HAVE A GUY, UH, ALWAYS PRESIDE AT THE, UH, COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER ASSOCIATIONS MEETINGS. WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL MEETINGS. AND SO HE WOULD INTRODUCE EVERYBODY THAT HE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN AND, UH, REPRESENTATIVE THAT HE HAD ON HIS LIST AND HE SPECIALTY TO THAT. THEN YOU'D GET THROUGH AND SAID, NOW IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO WANTS ME INTERVIEW? SO YOU LAUGH, YOU LAUGH ABOUT THAT. BUT THE LAST TIME CAR AND I WENT TO, UH, CHAMBER BANQUET AND CAROL THE SPEEDER HAD NOT STARTED SPEEDING AT 10 O'CLOCK. AND WHEN HE GOT UP TO SPEED, HE SAID, IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE LATER ON, [00:30:01] ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS NOT BEEN INTERVIEWS BEFORE I ? HE WAS A LITTLE HACKED OFF, WASN'T HE? WE DIDN'T GET OUTTA THERE UNTIL ABOUT 1130. SO I, IF IT'S AT EIGHT, SIX O'CLOCK WHEN START SIX O'CLOCK. SIX O'CLOCK, AROUND SEVEN O'CLOCK SATURDAY NIGHT, I HOPE TO BE AT A SEAFOOD RESTAURANT IN WASHINGTON, DC OAK PARK, LONG JOHN SILVERS NOT IN DC SO THEY CLOSED DOWN. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'LL BE TAKING SATURDAY NIGHT, BUT I, I WON'T SEE. I BET, I BET THEY APARTMENT IS THAT THE ALL YOU CAN EAT ONE? THEY GOT ONE NEW ONE UP THERE THAT ATE THAT TWO YEARS AGO. IT'S ALL YOU COULD NEED TO. GOT A BIG PHASE. NO, BUT THE FOOD WAS NOT FAIR TO GOOD. NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S GONNA BE THERE FOR NATIONAL, THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIAL OF THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS WORKFORCE BOARD, AND THIS IS THEIR, OUR ANNUAL GET TOGETHER IN WASHINGTON. THIS IS THE TRIP OF LAST YEAR. I WAS AT THE AIRPORT AND THE SANDSTORM BLEW THROUGH AND THEY CANCELED THE FLIGHTS. SO I STAYED OVER THERE ALL DAY SATURDAY. THEY KEPT TELLING ME, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET A PLANE OUT IN TWO HOURS. THEY KEPT BUMPING ME. FINALLY, ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK THAT NIGHT, THEY SAID, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GET YOU OUT FIRST PLANE IN THE MORNING. SO I WENT AND GOT IN THE ROOM OVER AT THE COMFORT OF SUITES OR WHATEVER. THEN I WAS AT AIRPORT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, READY MY FLIGHT. THEN THEY CANCELED ALL FLIGHTS GOING INTO WASHINGTON SEA BECAUSE, UH, LAND STRIP WERE ALL LIKE OCTOBER. SO THEY SAID, WE CAN GET YOU OUT MONDAY MORNING. THIS BE OVER. THE THING WOULD BE OVER MONDAY. . I SAID, FORGET IT. OKAY, BUT SEE, HERE'S THE KICKER. I COULDN'T GET ON A PLANE. MY BAG DID, MY BAG ENDED UP IN BALTIMORE, MARYLAND. AND THEY KEPT IT FROM THE OTHER WEEK AND A HALF. OH. BEFORE I GOT IT ALL BACK. WHY? DIDN'T HAVE ANY DID YOU? NO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY BOOTS IN THERE. I DID HAVE A, A WESTERN COAT I'VE DONE FOR 30 YEARS. A BIG HEAVY LEATHER WITH BIG FUR COLLAR ON IT AND BIG HEAVY LEATHER. I PUT THAT IN THERE. I HAD IN WASHINGTON DC DO THAT AGAIN. THOUGHT MY WIFE HAD, MY WIFE HAD A LOT OF SHOES IN HER CLOSET LAST WEEK. I SAW THE JUDGE WEAR A DIFFERENT PAIR OF BOOTS FOUR TIMES IN ONE DAY. ONE DAY. IS THAT TRUE OR NOT? THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S TRUE. THERE IS THE LADY COMFORTABLE BOOTS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP WELL IN EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, TAKE MEETINGS THERE. THE LADY HAS A SHOE. AND UH, SO THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY TIME MY BOOTS GET SHOT WHEN I GO TO THOSE. SO I, I TAKE FOUR PAIR OF TIME. SO I PUT ONE ON, GO GET A SHOT AND THEN WHEN I GET ANOTHER BREAK, THEN I GO GET ANOTHER PAIR OF, ACTUALLY IT WAS TWO DAYS. WELL, COURSE OF TWO. I EXAGGERATE. SO AS COUNCIL, I'M GONNA MAKE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT LATER, BUT YOU ASKED ME EARLIER. UH, SO I'LL BE IN TOWN NEXT MONDAY. I'LL BE IN WASHINGTON DC AT THE NATIONAL, THE MEETING, THE MEETING STARTS, UH, THE MEETING ACTUALLY STARTS ON MONDAY MORNING AND THEN IT LAST HOW MEAN SUNDAY MORNING AND THEN IT LASTS HOW LONG? UH, THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SPEND TUESDAY WITH OUR CONGRESSMAN [00:35:01] I WHO BE TO SURVIVE OR, BUT UM, THERE'S A GROUP FROM THE WORKFORCE BOARD IN DALLAS. I MEAN . AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT'S WORKFORCE BOARD PAYS ALL THE, THAT IS A VERY PLACE, OH, ANDREW, YOU JUST DRIVE BY TO VISIT OR YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS ON SOMETHING. I'M TO THE POINT WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN SPEAK NOW IF YOU WANT. I WAS ACTUALLY YOU Y'ALL BE HERE. UH OH. YOU WANT TO USE MY OFFICE NEXT WEEK WHEN I'M . WHY NOT? HE'S BUGGING ME TO GET HIS PERSONNEL PLACED FOR AN OFFICE. I TOLD HIM UNTIL WE GET THE NEW COURTS BUILDING BUILT, HOPEFULLY HE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY, ANY OFFICE AND WORK A LITTLE HARDER ON THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STYMIED NOW UNTIL WE COULD GET SOME, ANOTHER BUILDING BUILT. WE CANNOT INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE DA'S OFFICE. WE CANNOT INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND ANY OTHER OFFICE. WE'RE, WE'RE ED. WE CANNOT GROW ANY FURTHER THAN ANY OF THESE OFFICES UNLESS WE GOT MORE ROOM PERIOD COME OUT SOMETIME THIS AFTERNOON. WE'LL GO OUT THERE AND DOUBLE JAIL AND SEE IF THERE'S SOUTH CAMPUS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE AT ALL COURSE THAT MIGHT NOT BE. I JUST DON'T ASK ME FOR OFFICER . I THOUGHT I GO ONE NIGHT. YOU DID, YOU DID A GOOD JOB. PAID FOR. HE FINALLY GOT WORD WITH PARNELL'S SETTING THERE THAT WHAT THEY DID COST US. WE HAD TO HAD FOUR STORY, 10 COURTROOM BUILDING READY TO BE BUILT FOR $12 MILLION AND THEN THEY PUT A TIME TO THE COS AND NOW THAT SAME BUILDING IS, IS UH, 30 CAN POINT OUT LAST NIGHT. IT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN 22 AND 30. NOW IF WE EVEN ONE HALF THAT SIZE IS PROBABLY GONNA BE AT LEAST 15 TO 18. I COULDN'T THINK OF THE NOW. I KEPT DRAWING, I WANTED TO SAY CAVE AND I COULDN'T THINK OF WHAT I WANT TO CALL. YEAH, OH YEAH, BUT YOU, I I LIKE THE WAY YOU DROVE THAT MESSAGE HOME LAST NIGHT WITH, WITH BOTH OF THEM. EY WAS THERE TOO. MM-HMM. WITH LAI AND, AND CARNE BOTH THERE WITH, WITH, UH, THE MONIES WOULD'VE BEEN, I WAS SURPRISED THEY BROUGHT THAT UP AS A QUESTION. UH, NOT, NOT THE COURTHOUSE. I CAN SEE THAT COULD BE BUT FAR AS THE TRIP. OH YEAH. TAKE THE TRIP JUST TO LOOK AT A COURTHOUSE. IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG DEAL? I THINK THAT'S SUPPOSED BE OF COURSE WHEN THE DEMOCRATS WERE TALKING AFTER YOU LEFT, THEY AGREED. YEAH. EVERYTHING YOU CAN, YEAH. THAT'S WHY WHO WHAT OUTSIDE TO DO THAT, TO ASK THAT QUESTION. I IS THAT BY THE WAY, TO THE NEWS MEDIA? UH, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL WANT TO MEET US DOWN THERE AND TOUR THAT JAIL, BELL COUNTY HAS JUST OPENED UP A FIVE COURTROOM BUILDING NEXT TO THE JAIL AND THEY'VE GOT A WALKWAY COVERED WALKWAY YOU GOING, WE'RE GOING JANUARY THE 29TH. FEBRUARY 29TH. DAY DAY. BUT NOW I DON'T Y'ALL PROPOSING, I SAID THAT'S, BUT I DON'T WANT ANY, Y'ALL PROPOSING WE WHERE ARE YOU GOING? WE'RE GOING TO BE COUNTY. BELL COUNTY IS TYPICAL ACTUALLY BELTED. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING ON THE, UH, . WE'RE GONNA MEET AT THE, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS AT EIGHT O'CLOCK. NO, WE'RE GOING TO PULL OUT AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, MEET OUT THERE SUFFICIENT TIME AND WE'LL SEE WHO'S GOING CARRY A CAR OR PICK UP OR WHATEVER. UH, HAL I THOUGHT WE MIGHT EVEN CONSIDER RENTING A VAN OF SOME KIND THAT DAY, BUT I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY JUST BE BETTER TO BUY THE CAR UP. [00:40:02] UH, BUT ANYWAY, SO YAME NOTHING SECRET ABOUT IT. WE'RE GOING DOWN AND LOOK AT THEIR NEW BUILDING. UH, THE ARCHITECT THAT BUILT IS GOING TO BE THERE. UH, COUNTY JUDGE, HE HAD A DOCK CALL THAT MORNING, BUT HE'S GONNA BE WITH US THAT AFTERNOON AND UH, WE'RE JUST GONNA SEE WHAT THEIR NEW FACILITY LOOKS LIKE AND SEE WHAT IT CALLS AND, 'CAUSE HERE'S AN IDEA AND COMMISSIONER AND I HAVE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE COURT. UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS ABANDONING THE COURT. IF WE KEPT TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT GONNA ABANDON THIS COURT, HOW COME IT'S GONNA BE HERE? SURE. BUT IF WE KEEP THE CIVIL COURTS HERE, YOU KNOW, DIVORCE COURTS, OH, THAT'S LAWSUIT, FAMILY LAW AND ALL THAT. KEEP ALL THAT HERE IN THIS COURTHOUSE AND JUST HAVE A CRIMINAL COURT OUT THERE. BUT WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE JUDGES AND THE, THAT HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH? THAT HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH UNTIL WE GET NEW COURTS. THAT VEHICLE COME UP HERE, THEN IT IS TRANSPORTING ALL PRISON OUT. ONE JUDGE GO OUT THERE FOR DAY. BUT I, I'M SORRY. IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE SUGGESTING THAT ON A PERMANENT BASIS THAT YOU WOULD BUILD A NEW COURTS BUILDING ON A PERMANENT BASIS AND THAT THEY WOULD GO OUT THERE AND DO CRIMINAL TRIALS AND DO CIVIL TRIALS HERE. EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT I, IT'S NOT ONE PERSON, IT'S PRISON. BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, THEY DON'T DO CRIMINAL WORK EVERY DAY AND THEY GET, IF THEY DO DO IT EVERY DAY, THEY CAN GO OUT THERE IN THE MORNING. PEOPLE IN THE, THEY'VE ALL AGREED, I'VE TALKED TO THEM WITH ALL FOUR OF JUDGES AND THEY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND THAT WAY ALL THE NAYSAYERS THAT DIDN'T WANT US TO DO THE BUILDING, BUILDING NOW AWAY FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA BECAUSE THEY WE'RE GONNA ABANDON, WHICH WERE NOT. THEY WERE GONNA, BUT THIS WAY IT'LL SATISFY THEM. CIVIL COURTS WILL BE HERE, CRIMINAL COURTS OUT THERE. BUT AS WE ADD COURTS NOW, BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA START ADDING THE COURT EVERY TWO YEARS FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. THEN WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT ADDING CRIMINAL COURTS AND THEN SO BUILDING FIRM WILL ALREADY BE THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT. BUT HERE AGAIN, I MEAN THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING PHASE OF THE PREPARATION OF IT. SO WHEN ASPECT S EDUCATION YEAH. YOU TAKE THE DISTRICT COURT PROBABLY IN TOTAL, RIGHT? DISTRICT CLERK. UH, DISTRICT JUDGE. WELL YOU'D HAVE YOUR, YOUR DISTRICT CLERK THAT HANDLES CRIMINAL CASES. YEAH. SEE IF BACK IN DALLAS THEY GOT 'EM ALL SCATTERED. HOW CAN THEY DO LIKE, LIKE THEM? I MEAN THEY'VE GOT THE CRIMINAL, THEY GOT THE COUNTY CLERKS, ASSISTANT CLERKS WHO DO CRIMINAL WORK AT THE CRIMINAL COURTHOUSE AND ALL THE FILES AND EVERYTHING AT THE CRIMINAL COURTHOUSE. THEN STILL IN THE COUNTY CLERK, WHICH HER OFFICE IS IN THE ALLEN BUILDING AND ALL THE CIVIL CASES ARE IN THE ALLEN BUILDING AND ALL THE CIVIL COUNTY CLERKS ARE IN THE ALLEN. SAME WITH THE DISTRICT. YOU GOT YOUR DISTRICT CLERKS DO CIVIL, YOU'RE ALL IN THE ALLEN BUILDING AND YOUR DISTRICT CLERKS WILL DO CRIMINAL OUT THE CRIMINAL. SO ANYWAY, IT'S A THOUGHT AFTER WE GO DOWN THERE AND LOOK AT IT, WE MAY NOT LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS. WE MAY NOT WANT DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS A BEGINNING. YOU GOTTA BEGIN SOMEWHERE IN GRANBURY, YOU KNOW CITY. YEAH. GRANBURY TOOK OLD SCHOOL IN REMODEL. DID HAVE YOU EVER SEEN BEEN TO THE NEW CITY COUNCIL OF GRANBURY? FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN THIS, THE FLOORS ARE MADE OUT OF MESQUITE. BEAUTIFUL. THE MOST BEAUTIFUL FLOORS I'VE EVER SEEN. BROWN ONES OR CUT, CUT HOUSE RESIDENCE THAT OUTTA MUSK. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. OH, SHOT HERE. YOU COULD MAKE IT SHOT GUN STOP ON SKIES. YEAH. IT'S HARD TO FIND A PIECE OF WOOD. YOU KNOW, MESQUITE GET ROTTEN IN THE MIDDLE AND CRISPY AND ALL THAT. YOU JUST GOTTA FIND A SPECIAL. WE GOT, I SEEN HIM EVERY TWO WEEKS THERE . YEAH, YOU DON'T WANNA BUILD SOMETHING OUTTA ME. I'LL MAKE A HECK OF A DEAL OF MATERIAL. WE, WE LET THIS GUY GET ON. MOSQUITO WANTS, HE CUTS UP THE LITTLE PIECES LITTLE BARBECUE WITH THAT'S FINE. WE MAY TAKE ALL THE BIG PIECES HE WANTS. I, THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED. WALLACE DAR WALLACE DART WAS COMMISSIONER. HE SOLD A PASTURE FULL OF BROOM WEED. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY MADE WITH WHAT THEY DID WITH THE BROOM WEED, BUT SOME GUY CAME IN AND SAW A WHOLE PASTURE BROOM FULL OF BROOM WEED AND BOUGHT IT. DID YOU GET HIS NUMBER? [00:45:06] BROOM WEED. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. OH REALLY? YEAH, THAT WAS THE BACK IN THE EIGHTIES. WHAT'D THEY DO WITH IT? WOULD PAINT, PAINT, PAINT, PAINT GOLD, THEN PUT ON THE LITTLE SILVER TWINK AND AND THE LADIES USED IT TO DECORATE IT WITH IT WAS, I THINK A LOT OF IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S FIREPLACE. I ALWAYS SAY IF YOU GUYS KIND STATION SMART SOME WAY ACROSS HARD BARK BE JUST GO AROUND EAT MESQUITE TREES AND FIRE. YEAH, I'VE BEEN TALKING MUCH. WELL GARY JUST PASSED THIS US I READ HALFWAY THROUGH I FINALLY REALIZED WE DON'T BUY FARMER MATERIAL STUFF. ABOUT THE COUNTY PRECINCTS DIFFERENT NOT TO COUNT VOTING [00:50:13] AT THE HAPPENED WHEN THE FIRST, AND IF THAT TRANSLATES THE ONLY THING OF DES A UTILITY DISTRICT [00:55:22] RECLAIM OR RECLAIM OR LOOK AT THE DRUG. YEAH. WHICH WAY DID THE TEETH RUN? THIS IS THE FRONT. THIS IS FRONT. LOOK AT IT. ONE THAT THE TEETH POINT THIS WAY. WHAT YOU WANT THIS, THIS IS THE RECYCLE. GET ONE THAT'S GOT, THAT'S A MIXTURE THAT DOES NOT TALKED TO BRIAN ABOUT IT, BUT I TALKED TO SEWER ANYWAY. DALLAS. WHERE SECOND TO MR. TO PAY THE BILLS ON THURSDAY? AYE, WHAT DID WE DO? YOU GET, GET OUT. SEE THIS MAN RIGHT HERE WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF ISN'T MINE. YES. OKAY. SO HE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST WANTED TO CHECK BEFORE THEY GOT OUTTA HERE. KNOW TAKE STUFF HOME. THERE HAVE BEEN WHO DID WHO? YEAH. THERE HAVE BEEN A HISTORY OF PEOPLE TAKING STUFF HOME. I'M GUILTY. OKAY. REMIND YOU OF THIS NO MEETING. NEXT MONDAY I'LL BE IN WASHINGTON DC WITH THE, UH, NATIONAL, UH, UH, WORKFORCE BOARD MEETING, UH, TWO WEEKS. WHEN WE DO MEET BACK, IT WILL BE IN HERE AGAIN. EVEN THOUGH EARLY VOTING WILL BE OVER. THEY WANT TO USE THE ROOM TO GET FOR THE NEXT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING COMPUTERS IN AND WHATEVER. SO, UH, WE'LL BE HERE AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. UH, ANYTHING Y'ALL NEED TO BRING UP BEFORE WE GO? THE RADIO PROGRAM IS TODAY. YEAH, FOUR 30. I'LL GET IN TO GET THOSE. THIS IS KI I'LL BE DOING JUDGE RADIO PROGRAM. OUR FIRST CHIPBOARD MEETING IS BE WENT BACK CANCELED THIS MORNING. IT WAS CANCELED THIS MORNING. YEAH, WE'RE NOT FIRST TEN ONE MEETING WELL CAME LAST NIGHT. NEXT TUESDAY. NEXT TUESDAY I MET, I MET HAD FOR NEXT TUESDAY AT NIGHT I MET WITH HAL RICHARDS AND LAWYER AND WE PRETTY MUCH NARROWED DOWN TO ONE ISSUE. AND THAT'S THAT I WANT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO HAVE VETO POWER ON ANY NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN. AND, UM, UH, THEY'RE, THEY GOT A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THAT. I SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. SO. WELL, THEY'RE GONNA GO BACK AND TALK TO THEIR PEOPLE. SO THAT'S WHERE IT STANDS. BUT I, I, Y'ALL, Y'ALL AGREE WITH THAT? I'M TALKING ABOUT NEW PROJECTS. IT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL PLAN. UH, I GUESS THAT'S IT. YES. BE A GOOD TIME TO HAVE THAT WORKSHOP ON PERSON NAME. NO, HE SAID WORKSHOP. HE SAID OKAY. YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A WORKSHOP. YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT UH, COMMISSIONER'S MEETING YET. MR. WORKSHOP? YEAH. WE'LL TELL ANGIE TO TRY AND SCHEDULE ONE THAT WEEK. OKAY. I NEED A COPY OF THIS LETTER THAT DICK MURPHY MURPHY'S TELLING ME THAT WE GOTTA NEGOTIATE DELIVERING THESE BOXES. HE FLASHED IN FRONT OF ME THIS MORNING. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. SAID THAT I HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH HIM AND I HAVE TO LET MY PEOPLE DO THAT. AND I WANT TO SEE THE LATER HE FLASHED THEM AROUND. I'M HAVING A LITTLE HEARTBURN OVER THIS. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT COMMISSIONER. HUH? IT DOESN'T SAY [01:00:01] THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO DO. I THINK IT SAYS YOU CAN DO. THAT'S WHAT SAY. I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS UP TO THE COMMISSIONER. YEAH. I I DON'T, YEAH, IT DOESN'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT I HE WAS TALKING. I THINK IT DIDN'T READ IT. YOU CAN DO IT, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE. WHEN DID Y'ALL GET Y'ALL COFFEE? WE AHEAD AND GOT COFFEE. HE WAS JUST PLACING IT AS WE WALKED THROUGH THE INEX OVER OVER HERE. OKAY. I KNOW AS OF FRIDAY WASN'T HERE. YOU GOT THIS MORNING? YES SIR. YES. WHAT TEXT? PROBABLY, I MEAN HE WAS, IF IT'S FROM TOM, TOM WAS SUPPOSED TO FAX IT TO, TO US IN HERE. SO DICK HAD BEEN CHECKING WITH ANGIE EVERY DAY TO SEE IF SHE'D GOTTEN ANYTHING. SO I MADE, HE CHECKED WITH HER FIRST THING THIS MORNING. I'M GETTING, I'M GETTING A LITTLE HEARTBURN OVER HIM. UH, UTILIZING MY FORCES WITHOUT MY MATTER. WELL, I THINK NOT WHAT HE TOLD ME. HE SAID, YOU HAVE TO AGREE TO IT. IF YOU DON'T AGREE TO IT, THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND SOME WAY TO DO IT. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S OF WHAT THE AGREEMENT OF IT'S WITH THE AGREEMENT OF THE COMMISSIONER. I THOUGHT WE COULD SPEND THE BRIDGE BY THE WAY, HE HAS TO REIMBURSE, HE HAS TO REIMBURSE THE ROAD AND SEE. ORIGINALLY I WAS TOLD THAT, UH, IF, IF YOUR ROAD HAND IS GOING TO HELP HIM, THEN YOUR ROAD HAND HAD TO TAKE A VACATION DAY FROM THE COUNTY THAT DAY AND WORK FOR DICK THAT DAY. AND DICK REIMBURSED OR DICK, YEAH. WASN'T PAYING HIM DIRECTLY, BUT DICK REIMBURSED THE OVERALL ROAD BRIDGE. AND DICK SAID, WELL THAT WHAT HE TAUGHT TO TOM. TOM SAID, WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A VACATION DAY, BUT HE DOES HAVE REIMBURSE ROAD BRIDGE. JERRY WAS ONE, LEON COUNTY AND THEY SAID THEY DO IT, WHETHER DO IT OR NOT. BUT AS FAR AS THE LEGALITY, AS FAR AS THAT'S RIGHT. AND REIMBURSE, UH, SALARY AND EXPENSES. I THINK YES. WHAT EXPENSES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IF YOU USE MY VEHICLE? HOW, WHAT? HOW ABOUT MY VEHICLE? YOU HAVE TO USE THE COUNTY VEHICLE. I THINK YOU CAN'T DELIVER IT IN A MOTOR CHARGE. TWO 50. HOW ABOUT A DUMP TRUCK? WHEN YOU GET THERE, YOU DROP OUT. OKAY. UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION MADE BY JERRY MADE A MOTION. JIM'S SECONDED ALL ACT. WE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.