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TOGETHER THIS MORNING TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.

PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND GIVE US THE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING TO MAKE, UH, CORRECT DECISIONS YOU.

THANK THEY FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT HAS GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

UH, PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON FAVOR UPON OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY AND BRING THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THANKFULLY FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL WEATHER, UH, WE LOVE THESE WONDERFUL DAYS.

ALL THIS WE ASK, IN JESUS NAME, I PLEDGE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE AN INDIVISIBLE HAVING SOME KIND OF A ROTARY CLUB LUNCH THING OVER THERE TODAY.

THEY MUST BE GETTING THE WAY.

JERRY.

OUR FLAGS AT CHURCH ARE WRONG.

YOU WHAT? OUR FLAGS AT CHURCH.

OH, ARE THEY ARE OPPOSITE FROM WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.

THEY GOT AN AMERICAN FLAG ON THE RIGHT.

WHY DON'T YOU MOVE THEM? WELL, I'M NOT A ELDER IN THE CHURCH ANYMORE.

IF YOU KNOW I'M AN ELDER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL MOVE THEM.

I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT TOO, JUDGE.

SOON I HANDLE THESE WILD THINGS DON'T HAPPEN.

OKAY.

HOPEFULLY Y'ALL HAVE PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.

IF YOU WERE I'LL A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS OR ADDITIONS.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION A ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

JUDGE, I JUST PASSED OUT A, UH, SOME ENERGY INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE BEGGING HERE PRETTY SOON.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S BUDGET TIME.

I, I'M SORRY.

I DID GIVE YOU A COPY.

A COPY LIKE THE PRICE OF ALL BACK 1978, I THINK.

I THINK THE PRICE OIL WENT UP A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S JUST KIND OF INTERESTING.

I INTERESTED, OBVIOUSLY IN 2002, WHICH WHEN I TOOK OFFICE OIL WAS $15 A BARREL AND TODAY IT'S $109 A BARREL.

THAT'S 700% INCREASE, UH, IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

AND UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT TELLS US THAT THE DIESEL ACTUALLY MULTIPLIED BY 400% AND GAS 300%.

UM, BUT WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET, KEEP US IN MIND.

I CERTAINLY WILL.

.

YEAH, YOU'LL, YEAH.

I, UH, HAVEN'T TALKED TO JOHNNY HOW YET, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, MOVE SOME OF THAT, UH, PERCENTAGES AROUND AND PUT SOME MORE ROAD AND BRIDGE FOR YOU BECAUSE Y'ALL GOTTA HAVE IT.

WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF FRUGAL.

YOU KNOW, I, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT WHEN I TOOK OFFICE.

UH, OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY WAS 11 CENTS.

TODAY IT'S SIX AND A HALF, AND NOW IT'S GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE HURTING THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

THAT IS, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE IN POSITION OF WHERE WE CAN PUT, UH, PART OF THAT BACK, IF NOT ALL, BUT, UH, ALL WE CAN BACK.

OKAY, NEXT, UH, WE WANT TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP, UH, EASTPORT BRIDGE TO THE CITY OF FOUR.

RAY, YOU WANT TALK? WELL, I'VE NEVER HAD THE TRANSFER OWNERSHIP OF THE BRIDGE BEFORE.

SO , MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME LEGAL OPINION ON THIS.

THIS IS THE OLD BRIDGE THAT WENT ACROSS, UH, TRINITY STREET.

THAT ONE IN THE SA ROAD, UH, ACROSS TRINITY RIVER DOWN THERE.

UH, THAT ROAD'S BEEN, UH, ABANDONED FOR PROBABLY SINCE THE

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LATE SEVENTIES.

UH, THE BRIDGE IS PROBABLY BEEN, THE BRIDGE IS NOT THE BEST SHAPE IN ORLEANS.

THEY'RE ANTICIPATING MAY COST 250,000 TO MOVE THAT BRIDGE, BUT THEY WANNA MOVE IT TO THE PARK.

IT'S AN OLD IRON, UH, TRAP TYPE BRIDGE.

YEAH.

THE ONE ACROSS THE RIVER THERE.

UH, AND EVIDENTLY THE COUNTY, THEY, THEY LOOKED UP SOME, SOME RESEARCH RIGHT.

SAID THE COUNTY THE PAPER WAY, WAY BACK LONG, LONG TIME AGO.

AND THAT'S WHY THAT, THAT WE HAVE AN OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN IT.

THEY, THEY THANK HIM.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALLOW HIM TO HAVE IT.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN USING IT FOR, I SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, THE BRIDGE ON, ON THE BOTTOM.

I GAVE YOU THAT LETTER FROM TDOT.

UM, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION PEOPLE WAS A LITTLE, HAD A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THAT MAY HAVE TO BE RESOLVED IN THAT.

'CAUSE IT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE BRIDGE THAT'S DOWN THERE ON, UH, 40 61.

THE BOTTOMS AND THE BOTTOM THEY'S GONNA REPLACE IT.

WELL, THAT'D BE THEIR PROBLEM.

WOULDN'T THE CITY'S PROBLEM GET CLEAR THERE? MORE PERMISSION THAN MOTION RAY.

IS THIS ONE COMPLETELY ABANDONED? I MEAN, IT'S NOT ALL THIS ROAD HAS, THIS ROAD HAS BEEN LOCKED OKAY.

SINCE THE SEVENTIES.

SO THEY JUST WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN AND MOVE IT TO THE YEAH, GOOD.

BESIDES THE BRIDGE THEN SHUT DOWN THE ROAD.

THE ROAD ITSELF DOWN TO THE OLD THAT'S WENT DOWN TO THE DUCK.

OH.

AND SO THE CITY POINT IS LOCKED THAT ROAD.

I SAY SINCE THE SEVENTIES HAS BEEN UNDER A GATE.

OH, THEY WANT IT SO BACK.

CAN WE SELL IT TO 'EM? ? WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.

IT AWAY PRETTY GOOD PRICE.

YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE WE DON'T DO THAT.

LET'S, UH, LET'S PUT PROVIDES ON THERE THE MOTION TO BE, UH, UH, TO GIVE IT TO THE CITY, UH, PHONY, UH, FOR US PENDING LEGAL STUDYING WITH JOHN, RUNNING THROUGH TO MAKE SURE, THAT'S WHY I PUT IT ON THE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE LEGAL, BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I HAD THE RIGHT, WELL, I KNOW IF WE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO EVEN DO THAT OR NOT, BUT I FIGURED IT GUY BEHIND ME WOULD KICKED ME TAPE.

CAN'T DO THAT.

YEAH.

BE USED ANYMORE, SIR.

THE ROAD IS NOT CURRENTLY IN USE AND YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE NO.

A FUTURE USE FOR IT? NO.

DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT LEGAL PROCESS OR LIKE YOU DO WHEN YOU ABANDONED THE ROAD TO MAKE IT OFFICIALLY LEGALLY ABANDONED THE ROAD BEFORE THE ROAD HAS BEEN ABANDONED SINCE THE SEVENTIES? HAD IT EVER BEEN LEGALLY NEVER BEEN.

I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

MORE THAN LIKELY.

NO.

WHERE NY DOES THINGS, YOU KNOW, BACK THEN, YOU JUST, UH, IS IT IN, UH, THE BRIDGE IS NOT WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BRIDGE MIGHT, YEAH, I BELIEVE IT IS IN SEVEN MINUTES.

OH, OKAY.

BECAUSE THAT THEY ANNEXED ALL THAT IN THERE BY THE POWER PLANT.

MM-HMM .

JUST BEHIND THE POWER PLANT BACK IN THERE.

PROBABLY LIKE A, SOMETHING LIKE A QUICK CLEAN DEED.

I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE OWN ANY PART OF IT, BUT WHATEVER PART WE OWN, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU.

.

YEAH.

SO LET'S LET 'EM HAVE, YEAH, THAT'S SUITS ME.

THEN.

WILL YOU SECOND THAT MOTION PENDING? LEGAL, UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK STATE BY COMMISSIONER LER TO GIVE, UH, THE CITY OF PONY THAT, UH, EASTPORT BRIDGE, UH, PENDING APPROVAL FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

ALL AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, NOW WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS ADVERTISING REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR FOOD SERVICE FOR THE COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT STAND.

JUDGE, YOU'RE GOING UP JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IS.

PARDON? YOU'RE GOING UP JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IS WHAT'S SEE YOU JACK.

UH, IT'S TIME TO REBID AGAIN.

AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF HAVE THIS CLOSING DATE, KIND OF EXTEND A LITTLE BIT TO, UH, UH, JUNE 6TH, UH, ON FRIDAY AND OPEN ON, UH, JUNE 9TH AND MONDAY TO GIVE YOU TIME TO GIVE THE SHERIFF AND MAKE SURE WE GET OUR, EXPECT THIS RIGHT ON THAT, BECAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO MEET WITH, UH, VENDORS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTH YOU GONNA HAVE A, UH, VENDORS MEETING LIKE YOU DO ON SOME OF THE OTHER CONTRACTS OR, YES, SIR.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

WE'LL HAVE TO JUDGE, MAKE SURE THAT WE GETTING, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS THERE.

GET YOU NEED, YOU'VE GOT DOCUMENTATION SUCH AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, DIETARY, UH, CONTENT AND ALL THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO FEED SO MANY CALORIES A DAY AND HAVE TO MEET THE STATE.

WE'RE GONNA PAIR IT ON SITES THAT THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE TEMPERA OF THE, BUT WELL, YOU MAY, WILL THAT WORK IN ON THE PROPOSALS ALSO? OR ARE YOU GOING TO YES.

WELL, AS MEET WITH THEM YOU'VE GOT, RIGHT.

WE CAN HAVE A PRE-BID,

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A PREBI CONFERENCE.

YES.

ALL THAT LAID DOWN.

I'M GONNA TELL YOU, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THE MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DOWNER.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

JACK, YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

UH, NEXT I'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPOINTING CATHERINE T MCCLEAN TO THE BOARD OF LAKES REGION.

IS CATHERINE OUT THERE? MICHAEL? SHE HAD SOMETHING ELSE PLANTED THERE.

UH, I, I TESTED WITH, UH, MS. MCCLELLAN.

SHE IS, UM, UH, HER, BOTH HER AND HER HUSBAND ARE RETIRED.

UM, SHE HAS A PHD.

UH, HER HUSBAND, UH, I FORGOT EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS THAT HE RETIRED FROM, BUT HE WAS HIGHLY EDUCATED ALSO.

I DON'T REMEMBER IF HE HAS A PHD OR, OR, OR EXACTLY WHAT, BUT, UH, THE PERSON WE'VE HAD ON THE BOARD REPRESENTING KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS BEEN, UH, A RETIRED FARM.

SANDY COWARD OVER IN TERRELL.

AND, UH, MS. MCCLELLAN'S FROM TERRELL ALSO, UH, AND SANDY, UH, SAID THAT AFTER HE RETIRED, WHILE HE TURNED THE BUSINESS, I BELIEVE, OVER TO HIS KIDS, AND NOW THE BUSINESS IS GROWING SO FAST THAT THEY GOING BRING HIM BACK ON BOARD.

, ISN'T THAT A NICE THING TO DO? RETIRE THEN YOU'VE GOT, YOU RETIRE YOUR BUSINESS.

END GOES.

SO, SO ANYWAY, SO SANDY SAID HE'S GOT TOO, TOO MUCH WORK RIGHT NOW TO DO AND HE CAN NO LONGER SERVE ON THAT BOARD AND HE WOULD, UH, SUBMIT HIS RESIGNATION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.

AND, UM, UH, ANYWAY, I THINK MS. MCCLELLAN IS, UH, A VERY GOOD PERSON TO TAKE OVER SAMUEL'S PARK.

YES.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

UH, DISCUSSING CONSIDER DEPUTATION OF ROBERT S MCKISSICK FOR THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SO MOVED.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DULLER.

SECOND.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

HOW DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFER? YES, SIR.

WE DO.

PROPOSED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS IN J TWO FOUR, INCREASE OFFICE SUPPLIES, HUNDRED $50 PRODUCTION OF MISCELLANEOUS ELECTIONS EXPENSE.

INCREASED CONTRACT LABOR 1500 WITH REDUCTION OF JUDGES AND CLERK COSTS, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, INCREASED EQUIPMENT REPAIRS 2000, PEST CONTROL 1000 WITH PRODUCTION TO JANITORIAL SERVICE OF 3000.

THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT INCREASED UNIFORMS. 8,000 WITH PRODUCTION TO REPAIRS.

CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASED COUNTY COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS. A HUNDRED DOLLARS WITH REDUCTION TO SUB COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS.

DA HOT CHECK FUND, INCREASED OFFICE SUPPLIES 1000 WITH REDUCTION TO TRAINING AND EDUCATION AND ENROLLED IN BRIDGE TWO INCREASED PARTS AND REPAIRS.

15,000 GAS AND OIL.

40,000 WITH REDUCTION IN SUPPLIES OF 5,000.

CONTRACT LABOR OF 20,000 IN ROAD MATERIALS OF 30,000 IN THE JUVENILE PROBATION AND FEE FUND.

INCREASED NON-RESIDENTIAL SERVICE COSTS OF 800, REDUCTION OF MISCELLANEOUS AND THEN THE, IN THE JUVENILE PROBATION.

FOUR E.

UH, WE HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT JUST TO AGREE HOURS TO THE STATE APPROVED BUDGET, UH, TO INCREASE THE SALARY FOR COORDINATOR FOR $14,000.

Y'ALL HEARD THE, UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST WOULD ENTERTAIN MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.

SO MAKE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR TO ACT A MOTION CARRIES, UH, THE, UH, NOTICE SHE HAD TRANSFER IN THE JUVENILE PROBATION.

ANY, UH, AS Y'ALL MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, I ATTENDED THE TEXAS LOCATION COUNTY'S LEADERSHIP COUNCIL MEETING, UH, LATTER PART OF LAST WEEK.

ONE OF THE, OF COURSE OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER WAS SPIKE DS.

YES, SIR.

AND, UH, HE DID A GREAT JOB.

GREAT JOB.

HE SAID HE QUIT SPEAKING TO CORPORATE GROUPS BECAUSE HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO CORPORATE PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT LIKE US .

SO LIKE REAL PEOPLE, NOT LIKE REGULAR PEOPLE.

YEAH.

SO HE PUT HE BUSINESS, HE JUST DOES IT FOR FRIENDS AND SPECIAL GROUPS NOW.

UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS POINTED OUT THAT WE, ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS, THE VERY FACT, THE VERY LAST ONE, UH, TYC Y'ALL KNOW, HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM.

YEAH.

THERE IS A STUDY

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BEING DONE TO SHUT DOWN TYC AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNTY WHERE THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO ADD ON TO A JAIL TO KEEP JUVENILES.

UH, YOU COULD ONLY PLACE SEVERE OR THE MEANEST PEOPLE IN, IN THAT PLACE.

UH, PROBLEM IS THAT OH.

AND, AND THE SUGGESTION IS THAT THE STATE'S GOING TO SEND THE MONEY TO THE COUNTY TO DO THIS.

WELL Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO US ON THE INDIGEN DEFENSE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

COST US A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND THEY SENT US 36 POUNDS.

AND SO I JUST WANNA LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE FIGHTS IN THIS COMING LEGISLATURE THAT THAT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE.

WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THING ENTIRELY.

GOTTA BE DIFFERENT THING, DIFFERENT BUILDING, DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.

YEAH.

YOU GOTTA HAVE STANDALONE FACILITY.

YEAH, BUT I JUST WANT LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING BE ONE OF THE FIGHT.

THIS IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE PROPOSITION TOO.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE STAFFING IN THESE THINGS, IT'S ABOUT ONE FOR ONE.

WOW.

AND IT'S A NON, UH, CUSTODIAL TYPE THING.

IT MORE HOME SETTING OR NO BARS.

I MEAN IT'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE OUTLAY OF, OF RESOURCES HERE IF WE HAVE TO START DOING THAT.

BUT THAT'S JUST THE TREND THAT THE STATE'S GOING TO.

ONE OF THE BIG, BESIDES THE TYC DISCUSSION WAS THE MENTAL ILLNESS, MENTAL ILL PEOPLE IN OUR JAILS.

THAT'S A PET PEEVE FROM ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WERE THERE.

IS THAT YOU, WE'VE GOT TO GET THE LEGISLATURE TO REALIZE THEY DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WAS CUT TWO YEARS AGO OUT THE BUDGET THAT NORMALLY GOES TO MENTAL, MENTAL HEALTH.

UH, THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO DUMP ALL THAT BACK ON THE COUNTIES AGAIN.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT.

AND THEN ALSO THEY'RE, UH, THE IS STILL GONNA BE A FACT.

AND ALSO THE, UH, TOTAL TAX REVENUE IS GONNA BE A FACT.

SEE THAT'S WHAT THEY, I DON'T, I HESITATE TO CALL 'EM WHAT I'D LIKE TO CALL 'EM , BUT YOU KNOW, SHE CARE.

KEEP DROPPING ALL THIS STUFF BACK ON THE COUNTY AND THEN SAYING, BUT WE'RE ONLY GOING, WE'RE GONNA LIMIT YOU UP JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO DO ALL THIS WORK.

YEAH.

AND THEN IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT WE'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO DO, THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET IN TROUBLE.

YOU KNOW, I JUST, IT'S JUST BEYOND ME HOW THEIR THINKING IS DOWN THERE.

WHAT ARE THEY GONNA KNOW IN AN APPRAISAL? UH, THEY STILL WANT TO CAP IT AT, UH, 3% PER YEAR AND, UH, AND LOWER THE, UH, MAXIMUM TOTAL TAX REVENUE DOWN TO THREE TO 5% BY NOW IT'S 8%, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT HAVING A ROLLBACK ELECTION.

WELL, APPRAISALS WERE KEPT TO 10.

APPRAISAL KEPT TO 10.

THAT'S RIGHT.

HENDERSON COUNTY IS FIGHTING THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEIR APPRAISAL DISTRICT REALLY INCREASED THE APPRAISALS ON PEOPLE LIVING ON THE LAKE AND THEY EXCEEDED THE 10%.

AND EVERYBODY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN ONLY BE TAXED ON 10%.

SO IF YOUR APPRAISAL WENT WAY OUTTA SIGHT THIS YEAR, YOU'RE GONNA BE TAXED AT ONLY 10% THE NEXT YEAR, 10% UNTIL THEY CATCH UP TO THE APPRAISED VALUE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID, OH, MY APPRAISAL WENT UP TO 300%.

I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY 10%.

YEAH, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA GET TAXED ON 10%, BUT YOU EVENTUALLY WILL, BUT YOU EVENTUALLY IT'LL CREEP UP TO WHAT THE ACTUAL APPRAISAL WAS.

ANYWAY, IT'S UH, IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING SESSION, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT, I, I DON'T THINK THAT COMES AS A SURPRISE ON KYC, BUT, UH, UH, BUT, AND THE CAPTIONING, IT WAS NOT A SURPRISE, BUT, UH, AND THEN WE'VE LOST OUR BIG, BIG GUN DOWN THERE WITH MR. HILL.

SO, UH, WE'RE WONDERING IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEONE STEP UP TO TAKE HIS PLACE ANYWAY.

I, UH, JUST WANT, WE GOT A PHONE TIME COMING UP NEXT SPRING.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY BILLS PLAY TODAY? CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE DO THAT? YES, SIR.

HAVE WE MADE THE, THIS 16,000 AND 9,000 TRANSFER? YES.

DID IT GO INTO EITHER ONE OF THESE ACCOUNT? NO SIR.

WELL THEN NO, THIS WAS THE LINE ITEM EFFECT TOLD ABOUT THE 16 AND THE NINE DID EFFECT IS TOLD ABOUT, BECAUSE I'M REALLY HAVING SOME HEARTBURN ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE.

WHICH ONE IS THAT? THE ELECTION MONEY THAT WE JUST AUTHORIZED FOR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,

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HE CLAIMS TO BE OUTTA MONEY.

HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE 17,000 HE'S GETTING FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE 17,000 PLUS THE RUNOFF THAT HE'S GETTING FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, PLUS ALL THIS MONEY HE'S GETTING FROM ALL THESE MAY ELECTIONS.

UH, I I THINK WE'VE BEEN MISLED.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE OR NOT, BUT I'D SURE LIKE TO FIND OUT ALL THAT HAPPENED TRACKS IT.

THE ELECTIONS ARE MAKING ANY, WHEN YOU GET TO THE SCHOOL OR THE CITY, COVER EXPENSES.

SAY MAKING MONEY TO COVER.

SUPPOSED SUPPOSED VICKY SAID THAT WAS I PAID TOWN COUNTY HAD ONE PERSON COME ONE DAY.

ONE PERSON.

THAT'S THAT'S A LONG DAY EXPENSIVE DAY.

MUCH.

THIS MY TANK.

ARE YOU USUALLY WHEN I GET IN, IT'S SO LATE CHAPEL, THREE TELEPHONE CALLS.

FRIDAY WE WENT TO GET THREE.

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HOW MANY TOTAL CLEAN UP YOU DON'T HAVE? FIVE MUST BE HE HAD FIVE, SIX.

WELL, WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY BECAUSE I GOTTA HAVE SHERIFF THAT TRUSTEE GUARD WE'RE GOING GET CAN YOU GET SHELLY TO HELP YOU TALK TO SHELLY? HE ALWAYS HAS.

I'LL IF YOU CAN GET A, IF THEY CAN HELP OVER THERE.

TWO Y'ALL, SHELLY, BECAUSE I, MY PROBLEM IS YOU JAIL.

I THINK WORKING THE LANDFILL AFTER.

SO, UH, WE, I'LL FIND OUT.

Y'ALL NEED TO FIND THAT OUT.

I'M GOING TO BE GONE THAT WEEK.

JOHNSON.

16TH AND 17TH.

I ALSO KNOW THIS STUFF.

YOU SHOULD SATURDAY CALL SHANE.

HE'LL COME OUT THERE EVERY WEEK.

YEAH, IF YOU WAIT FRIDAY.

CHUCK GOT LOOKS FOR THAT IN HERE.

I COULDN'T FIND IT IN MY STACK.

THAT'S, DON'T Y'ALL TO GET SPOILED NOW OUTTA HERE AT 10 15.

GET USED TO THAT TWO TIMES.

REALLY? BARBECUE PLACE.

BROTHER BOUGHT BUILDING.

OH, DID NOT.

LITTLE REMODELING OVER THERE.

THE SECOND FLOOR UP THERE, THEY STILL GOT THE PAINT, PAINT THE WINDOWS AND AND STUFF STILL WE DO SHINGLES.

I WANTED REPLACE SOMETHING LIKE OVER HERE.

LOOK, LOOK AS GOOD AS REGULAR SHING CHEST.

DON'T FORGET THAT ARCHITECT WILL BE HERE AT TWO.

IF YOU WANNA COME LOOK AT THAT BE PROBABLY OVER MY OFFICE.

I, AND WE'LL PROBABLY JUST BE WALKING AROUND THAT BUILDING.

WE NOT HAVE AN CONDITION CONTRACT.

YES WE DO.

THE UH, SHERIFFS PEOPLE WERE NOT AWARE OF THAT CONTRACT.

THAT'S THE STORY.

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SHE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HE, WHILE Y'ALL ARE DOING THAT, LEMME THROW SOMETHING OUT AT, YOU MET WITH THE, UH, MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER KAUFMAN LAST WEEK AND THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH THIS POSSIBILITY OF, UH, GOING TOGETHER AND BUYING THE BLOCK OVER THERE THAT WE USED TO OWN AND MAKING IT A, A CITY PARKING LOT.

SO Y'ALL BE THINKING ABOUT THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL MIGHT WHICH ONE? WHICH ONE? THE ONE NEXT TO THE SENIORS ACROSS FROM SENIOR CITIZENS.

ACROSS FROM SENIOR CITIZENS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, IT USED TO BE THE COUNTY PARKING LOT.

YEAH.

AND WE TRADED IT TO THEM.

WE TRADED IT FOR THIS, FOR THE, FOR THE PARKING LOT THAT WE OWN NOW AT THE BANK.

WE, WE, UH, TRADED TO THAT PRICE WAS 167,000 WAS THE PRICE THAT WAS PUT ON FOR PURPOSES OF THE TRADE.

IS THAT TO BE SPLIT OR IS THAT OUR WOULD BE NO, IT TO BE SPLIT.

OKAY.

SO WITH THE CITY OF CAMAN 80,000 BUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

YOU HAVE TO GO ABOUT TODAY'S APPRAISAL.

YEAH.

AND IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THEN IT MIGHT NOT BE MORE SINCE THE PRICE OF GAS AND EVERYTHING.

SO WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO IT SAME AS THEY WOULD.

YES.

IT'D BE A JOINT, UH, COUNTY, CITY OPERATION.

YEAH.

I DON'T THINK WE WOULD EVER HAVE TOO MUCH PARKING SPACE.

I MAKE SURE I DON'T ONE 20,000 BECAUSE THIS ONE'S FULL MONEYS WHEN I HAVE, I LOST MY BID ON THE PICTURE.

DID I SAID 20,000 THEY WENT OVER.

OH, COULD THAT ONE JUST BE USED FOR JURIES? ONLY JUST THE TWO.

I DON'T THINK THAT'D BE FEASIBLE.

I THINK.

OH YEAH, I JUST ASKING.

I THINK, UH, BEEN ON VACATION, BUT THE PROBLEM IS ANYTHING WHAT HAPPENED OUT THERE THEN WHEN ON TUESDAY? CHECK ON JIM.

EXCEPT THERE'S MUCH ON WHEN IT'S NOT NEEDED FOR JUROR.

WE DON'T WIN THE HE CATCHES EVERYTHING I SEND DOWN THERE.

WELL I SAW WHAT THAT CHARGE DO TO RUN THAT AX.

SO FOR THAT, WHEN I, BUT WHEN I SEND OUT A ALL WHEN I HAD DIDN'T GET IN THE TELL WHERE THE PARKING LOTS ARE.

SURE.

WE TELL THEM WHERE TO PARK.

YOU TELL THEM WHERE TO PARK WHEN YOU SEND OUT TO Y NOTICES, YOU SEE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TELL 'EM YOU HAVE BOTH, BOTH TABLE WELL SHOULD, WELL IT SHOULD HAPPEN IF YOU BUY THE, IF YOU WERE TO BUY THAT PROPERTY WITH THE CITY OF COPELAND, TELL THEM THAT THEY DON'T NEED PARKING FINES ANYMORE.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE? I'D LOVE THAT.

JUDGE, DID YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE CROSSWALKS? YEAH, WE HAVE TO GIVE UP, UH, UH, FOUR PARKING SPOTS.

FOUR PARKING.

I MEAN THAT'S ONE FOR EACH CROSSWALK, ONE FOR CROSS WALL.

I MEAN I THINK THAT, I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S THE SILLY THING I HAVEN'T HEARD OF WHICH HAD THAT LITTLE PARKING.

THE LITTLE GUY RUNS AROUND AND PUTS A PIECE OF I DON'T TIRE.

WELL YOU CAN THINK I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

YOU CAN THINK ACROSS THE STREET FOR THAT.

IF SHE LOOKS OUT WINDOW.

YOU TOLD ME THAT SHE WATCHES HIM IF HE DOESN'T COME AROUND ACROSS CITY HALL.

REALLY? SHE, APPARENTLY, APPARENTLY SHE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MUCH TO DO OR SHE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MANY CUSTOMERS APPARENTLY.

WELL, SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CUSTOMERS.

PEOPLE COME TO THE COURTHOUSE AND USING THE PARKING.

NOTHING.

JUDGE, I GET AN EMAIL EVERY DAY FROM A, A GUY COUNTS EVERY SCHOOL BUS DOWN THE ROAD AND GETS THE NUMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BUS, MAINTENANCE EMAILS, ME SCHOOL THAT THESE BUSES ARE COMING DOWN HILL ROAD.

THIS AT 7 37 IS BUS NUMBER 22.

A PODIUM IN THE AFTERNOON AND COUNCIL TAKES A PICTURE.

HENRY T OH, WELL HENRY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THEY, WHAT I'VE KNOWN HIM CAN'T.

WE'VE KNOWN HIM FOREVER.

IT'S JUST THREE.

I TOLD DOWN ROAD HARD DRIVE DOWN.

IT'S A TRUCK.

IT'S NOT A ROAD, IT'S ROAD.

OH, SOME THESE HE SAID ONES KEITH AND THEN, UH, CAR UP.

THE BUS SUPERVISOR.

DID THEY JUST LAUGH? HUH? DID THEY JUST LAUGH? I SUPPOSE.

I DUNNO WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A BLOCK ON IT, BUT, BUT I DON'T, I JUST ACCEPT THE TYPE ASSESSOR.

YEAH.

WELL THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

YOU KNOW, I, I CAN FIND SOMETHING TO DO WHEN I RETIRE THEN I COUNT SCHOOL BUS.

I THINK I'LL COME UP TO Y'ALL'S MEETING THIS MO AND THEN, AND THEN SOMETIMES INSTEAD OF BUS NUMBER SEVEN, BUS NUMBER 37 OR 22, WHATEVER, IT'S UH, TDTT.

THAT'S THE BUS NUMBER.

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NO, IT'S TWO DOCTORS.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU RETIRED.

I THINK I'D RATHER THE PHARMACIST PROBABLY GO BACK TO WORK.

GOING SIT OUT THERE.

Y'ALL BROUGHT THE UMBRELLA.

I COULDN'T BEAR WHAT THERE FOR A ANY.

THAT'S THE SHERIFF'S.

SOME PEOPLE JUST DRAW.

JERRY, I THINK I'VE HEARD ALL HERE ANOTHER ONE.

HERE COMES ANOTHER ONE.

COPY PAPER'S UNDER CONTRACT.

ISN'T THAT? YES.

IS IT MATERIAL OFFICE OF PLAN? YES SIR.

OH IT IS.

OR DEPOT? EITHER ONE.

YEAH.

IT GOING UP IN PRICE TOO.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING UP.

ARE THESE ONLY DEFENSE? NO, THEY'D BE MORE THAN THAT CI THOUGHT.

OH GOSH, HE'S BACK.

BACK.

MM-HMM .

WE YOU WERE MEAN TO US.

YOU MADE US WALK ACROSS THE STREET.

WE'RE GONNA FIND YOU.

PUT YOU IN TIMEOUT.

NEED TO TALK TO MR. MURPHY.

HE'S THE ONE OUT.

WHAT'S OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO UH, WE SHOULD MAKE THEM COME OVER AND VOTE IN THE COURTHOUSE.

THAT WAY THEY APPRECIATE A LITTLE BETTER.

COME OVER HERE HAVING LOOK OF THE HALL DISTRICT.

WELL, I CAN'T BELIEVE, I GUESS IT'S 'CAUSE DICK, THE ELECTION.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.

UH, EARLY VOTING IS AT THE, UM, SUB COURTHOUSE.

I THINK THEY'D HAVE TO FIND THEIR OWN PLACE.

BUT THEY SAY DONE BY THE COUNTY.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

I GUESS THAT WAS DISCUSSED ACTUALLY.

ANY MONEY ANYHOW.

COST TO MAKE SURE SPENT ANYWHERE.

I MEAN THEY MAKE IT SO CONVENIENT FOR THE VOTERS.

YOU JUST, ONLY THING THEY DON'T DO IS COME BY AND PICK YOU UP.

WE, OH, THAT'S, I WOULD DO.

I YOU WOULD THINK THAT BUT AGAINST, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST WEIRD.

THE BAILIFF OVER AT THE COURT DISTRICT COURT.

I WAS, UH, ON 27TH IN THE SUB COURT HOUSE.

HE SAID, I SEE YOU PUT THE UH, I WAS IN THE SUB COURT C TOO DOWN THERE.

WHEN YOU GONNA PUT THE ROCK ON? THEY HAVE A LAMINATING THING HANGING OVER THEIR CAMERA PRECINCT VOTING 35, 40 MINUTES.

THAT JUST FOR WELL THAT'S REALLY, I THOUGHT EVEN PRECINCT TWO OIL AND COLD MIX AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

UHHUH.

BUT AT THAT TIME AND COME THINK WHEN A POOR TURNOUT, IT MAKES A GOOD ROAD UNTIL THE WATER GETS TO IT AND PRECINCT UP.

I THOUGHT THAT WHAT 27 WE'D LIKE.

I LIKE TO PUT THAT WE GOT PAPER NEXT TIME.

HATCHING MATERIAL AND EVERYTHING.

ROAD, YOU KNOW, CHANGE LITTLE 19,000 PEOPLE'S PRETTY BAD.

SMOOTH IT OUT.

WE USE A SHEEP FOOT, SHEEP'S FOOT AND A SMOOTH DRUM ROLLER AND BEAT THE BEAT JEEPERS OUT OF IT.

AND REALLY MAKES A NICE ROAD.

BUT YOU DON'T SEAL IT.

YOU GOTTA HAVE A SEAL IMMEDIATELY OR THE POTHOLE START BREAKING IN POTHOLE.

MR. DE SAYS WE CAN PAY THE BILLS.

COMMISSIONER ARRIVED AND SECONDS IT.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL AYE, AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING COMING UP THIS WEEK.

UH, NOTHING HAPPENS.

WE'LL SEE YOU MONDAY.

WE'LL BE BACK OVER THERE MONDAY.

YEAH.

AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO COMMISSIONER SHANE, MAKE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER ER SECOND MOTION TO ADJOURN ALL A MOTION.

CARRIE, I THINK THE'S HAVING

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A LUNCHEON THING.

LUNCH OVER HERE FROM 11 TO TWO.