* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] MR. CHRIS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK THEY FOR THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF COMING TOGETHER TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND HELP US TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS. UH, AS ALWAYS, WE, UH, THANK THEE FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US THE PAST YEAR. PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US, UH, ON OUR TROOPS WITH FAVOR AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY, AND AS ALWAYS, TRY TO BRING THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS' NAME, I AMEN. I'LL ADD, LORD, PLEASE BE WITH THE FAMILIES OF REVEREND I AND JOHNSON. GENTLEMEN, WHO SERVED 18 YEARS ON MR. COMM'S COURT, AND ALSO WITH, UH, THE FAMILY OF SERGEANT, FIRST SERGEANT HERBERT PETARE, WHO SERVED, UH, 20 YEARS AS CAMAN COUNTY VETERANS OFFICER. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU, JUDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE LIBERTY BELOVED, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE, THE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY. BE JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE, JUAN, AND INDIVIDUAL RICK COUPLE DAYS OFFS. UH, YOU'LL PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. NO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARES. OKAY. UH, FIRST STEP THIS MORNING, JOHNNY, THE COUNTRYMAN IS GOING, OUR COUNTY TREASURER IS GOING TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE, UH, SORRY YOU, HIM, BUT THE, UH, POST OFFICE LOST FOR TWO WEEKS. REALLY? MM-HMM. IN FACT, THEY FOUND THIS SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. UH, IT'S A GOOD REPORT. AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVERY YEAR LONGER INFORMATION, ANY QUESTIONS YOU CALL OR, OR HOW ANY, UH, SHORT AREAS OF SHORTCOMING THAT, UH, I, I ASSUME THAT WHAT AREAS THEY ARGUING AND HOW I GOING DISCUSS IT WITH THE INDIVIDUALS BEFORE TEXAS. OKAY. UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KELLER. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION TO CARRY. [00:05:36] OKAY, LET'S, UH, JUMP DOWN ANOTHER ONE. LET'S DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXTENDING THE CLOSING AND OPENING DATE FOR RLP NUMBER ONE DASH EIGHT ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR FOOD SERVICES FOR THE COMPTON COUNTY DETENTION CENTER. UH, JUDGE, I NEED SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO GET THE SPECIFICATIONS PREPARED AND APPROVED, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUESTING THAT WE CHANGE THE DATES TO, UH, CLOSE THAT, UH, RFP ON JUNE 20TH, UH, AND OPEN ON JUNE 23RD WITH A PRE-BID ON FRIDAY, JUNE. ALRIGHT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO, UH, UH, CLOSE THAT, UH, BID ON JUNE 20TH AND OPEN THE BIDS ON JUNE 23RD. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. NEXT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT AN INCREASE IN THE STATUTORY COMPETITIVE BID LIMITS FOR THE COUNTIES. YES, SIR. JUDGE, YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT THE CITY'S HAD THIS PASSED AND THEY'VE RAISED THEIR BID REQUIREMENT FROM 25 TO 50,000. AND, UH, THE COUNTY'S NEVER TRYING TO DO THAT. AND SO WE'RE, UH, THEY'RE IN HOPES THAT WE GET, UH, ALL COMMISSION SIGN OFF ME COUNTY INTERNAL IN, WE RAISE THOSE LIMITS. ALRIGHT. WELL, THIS WOULD BE A RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT A, A STATUTORY CHANGE THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. YES. THE CHANGE THE LIMITS PIT. RIGHT? WE DID THE COUNTY DIDN'T MAKE IT ON, ON THE COUNTY, DID NOT MAKE IT ON CHANGE THAT THE CITY MADE. DID YOU MAKE IT LAST TIME? WHAT? DID THE COUNTIES NOT MAKE IT OR TRUST MAKE? THEY WERE, THE LEGISLATURE WAS MAD AT US BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SUPPORT THEM ON THEIR CAPS. THIS IS ONE WAY THEY PUNISHED US. UH, OKAY. I I THINK THAT ANOTHER THING TOO, JUDGE, WAS, UH, WHO SAID THAT? , I THINK THERE WAS ALSO A THING ON THE, UH, HISTORICALLY UNDER UTILIZED ES YOU KNOW, THAT THE, UH, UH, COUNTIES THIS TIME TO NOT FALL UNDER THAT REQUIREMENT. AND, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE GROUPED IN WITH THE, UH, CITIES, UH, HAVE WE BEEN PIGGYBACKED ON THEIR, ON THEIR CHANGE AND MAKE THEM MORE DIFFICULT FOR COUNTIES TO HAVE TO ACQUIRE FREE QUOTES FROM, FROM HUB VENDORS OPPOSED TO MAYBE A CITY FINDING, FINDING OTHER HUB VENDORS IN YOUR AREA. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT WAS NOT ATTACHED TO, TO THE CITY THOUGH THAT LIMIT WILL JUST BE EXTENDED FROM 25 TO 50. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPE OF. ANYBODY I HAVE A COMMISSIONER WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. WOULD SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR, SIR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. JUDGE, DID YOU, YOU APPROVED IT JUST LIKE IT WAS WRITTEN, RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. A RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT. UH, NEXT WE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPOINTING, UH, GARY GRAVE TO REPLACE JIMMY TUCKER AS A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE I VIRGINIA. JIMMY SAID HE WAS, UH, HE HAVING ENOUGH OF IT GET OFF AND GARY GRAVE SAID HE WOULD ACCEPT THAT. SO JIMMY'S BEEN ON THERE SINCE DAY ONE BECAUSE I WAS ON THERE DAY ONE. HE'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. JUDGE. SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, DISCUSSION CENTER PROVEN THE APPLICATION FOR EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL COMPETITIVE GRANT PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2008. GRANT, UH, THIS IS ONE I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF, [00:10:05] UH, ROBIN KING FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, HAS ASKED US TO ALLOW THEM TO APPLY FOR THAT GRANT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY, AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AS I RECALL, THIS IS NOT A PART, NOT A, DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY FUNDS FROM THE CAPTAIN. A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. UH, NOW WE'RE GOING DISCUSS ONCE AGAIN THE FINAL PLAN FOR THE REPLANT OF BLOCK 57 FROM THE STATE SUBDIVISION. ONCE AGAIN, JUDGE, WE'RE GONNA TABLE THAT SHE'S NOT THROUGH AT ALL OF HER WORK ON THAT YET. IS THERE A SECOND TO HIS MOTION? UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN CLEAR? A MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT WE WANT TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVEN DICTATION OF ERIC SHANE POWERS AS A REVER RESERVED DEPUTY CONSTABLE FOR OUR COFFEE COUNTY PRECINCT. ONE TELL YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? YEAH, SURE. Y'ALL PROVEN ONE ABOUT OH, WHAT HAVE JOKE, BUT HE CALLED ME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND HE'S GONE TO WORK FOR ANOTHER AGENCY PART-TIME AND THEY'RE PAYING HIM AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE NEEDED THE EXTRA MONEY, SO I TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW, IF I CUT HIM LOOSE AND NOW I'M REPLACING WITH THIS GUY. SO THIS REALLY IS JUST REPLACING THE ONE WE HAD. OKAY. FOR YOU BEFORE. YEAH, I'VE GOT A VEHICLE SITTING OUT THERE QUICK. READY TO GO SEE SOMEBODY PUT IN IT. ALRIGHT. DO YOU MAKE THAT MOTION? YES, I DO. AND COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSED CONSIDER FOOD IN VALERIE HOBBS AS RESERVED DEPUTY CONSTABLE FOR COPELAND COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE. AND HERE COMES CONSTABLE SAND. THIS, UH, OBSERVED DEPUTY, SHE ADMITTED TO ME THAT ALL SHE WANTED TO DO WAS ENTER HER STUFF ON THE COMPUTER OR RACIAL PROFILING OR TICKET AND PULL BAILIFF DUTIES WITH A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME OUT ON THE STREET. AND PER THE CHIEF SECRETARY WORKED FOR A UNIFORM $79 . AND THIS IS, UH, IS THIS REPLACING ONE YOU HAVE OR SIR? NO, SIR. THIS IS ANOTHER, HIS PAPERWORK LOAD HAS INCREASED THE FUNCTION, SO HE NEEDS SOME EXTRA HELP. THANK, THANK BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I HAVE QUESTION. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION FIRST. UM, IS THIS INDIVIDUAL NOT GONNA BE SERVING ANY PAPERS? UH, YES SIR. SHE WILL BE TRAINED OUT ON THE STREET ALSO IN TIME. AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A FIVE TO SIX MONTH, UH, FTO DEAL BEFORE THEY'LL EVEN BE ON THE STREET BY THEIRSELVES. UH, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THE CIVIL, CIVIL PROCESS IS A SCHOOL THAT MUST, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR BUDGET, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN YOUR BUDGET, UH, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SERVE PAPER WITHOUT THAT PROCESS. CORRECT. AND WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING KIND OF TIGHT ON RESERVE DEPUTY ATTENDING SCHOOL AT COUNTY EXPENSE BECAUSE THE SHERIFF HAS AN ACADEMY OVER THERE AND THERE'S AN ONLINE PROCESS, UH, THAT THESE RESERVE DEPUTIES CAN ATTEND. AND THE SHERIFF SAID HE'D BE GLAD TO LET ANYBODY ATTEND THE REQUIREMENT SCHOOLS THAT THEY HAVE OVER THERE. UH, AND WHAT'S HAPPENED, AND, AND JUST SINCE WE STARTED AUTHORIZING RESERVED DEPUTIES, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TURNOVER AND, UH, SHELLY JUST HAD ONE. AND THIS IS GONNA BE PART OF YOUR BUDGET, UH, TO SEND THESE PEOPLE TO THE CIVIL PROCESS SCHOOL? YES, SIR. BUT THE, UH, STATE HAS A, THE HAS A GRANT TO DO THIS WITH, AND THEN WE ALSO GET TRAINING MONEY FROM THE STATE CONTROLLER. AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS YOU GOT THAT MONEY. LIKE SHELLY SAID, HE'S GOT PLENTY OF MONEY TO, TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET KIND OF STINGY ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE TURNOVER IN THE RESERVES. AND SHELLY JUST LOST ONE TO GO TO WORK FOR COMBINE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. JUST BE AWARE THAT, UH, YES, THE CIVIL PROCESS IS GONNA COST MONEY. RIGHT. [00:15:02] OKAY. OKAY. VOTES ARE TAKEN. SO A MOTION CARRIES. HEY, UH, NEXT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROVEN ATION OF STEVEN D. HENDRICKS FOR THE COL COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR TO AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. NOW EMBARK WANTS TO BURY A CABLE ON CANON ROAD 1 0 6. JERRY, WELL, WE HAD LOVE GET PHONES OUT THERE, SO LET'S LET, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE LET 'EM DO IT. AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAIR SIDE. A MOTION CARRIES. UH, OKAY, LET'S JUMP BACK UP. UH, WE FORGOT TO ASK KATHY MORRIS TO COME, COME IN THIS MORNING. THIS, UH, WE HAVE RE COMAN COUNTY HAS RECEIVED ANOTHER SAFETY AWARD, UH, COMAN COUNTY SAFETY AWARD PRESENTED TO KAUFMAN COUNTY IN RECOGNITION OF ITS ONGOING RECORD OF SAFETY IN THE WORKPLACE. 2007, TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, WORKERS' COMPENSATION SELF-INSURANCE, INSURANCE FUND. UH, AND THAT'S SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT OF TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND SIGNED BY THE CHAIRMAN OF WORKERS' COMPENSATION BOARD OF TRUSTEES. UH, THESE ARE THE ONES I USUALLY BRING KATHY IN 'CAUSE SHE'S THE ONE WHO COORDINATES OUR SAFETY PROGRAMS AND WE FORGOT TO, WHEN WE PUT ON THE AGENDA, FORGOT TO TELL HER IT WAS ON THE AGENDA. SO, UH, WE, UH, WILL ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, BUT, UH, IT TAKES THE EFFORT OF EVERYBODY TAKES THE EFFORT OF EVERY COMMISSIONER, THE SHERIFF CONSTABLES. IT TAKES EFFORT OF EVERYBODY, EVEN THE OFFICE WORKERS, HAL AND, UH, LAURA AND JACK, UH, TO GET AN AWARD LIKE THIS. NOW YOU SAY, WELL, WHAT, SO WHAT? WELL, SO WHAT IS, WHEN WE GET OUR WORKERS' COMPENSATION BILL, IT SHOULD BE, I THINK LAST TIME WAS AROUND $15,000 LESS. SO EACH YEAR THAT WE CAN GET THIS AWARD, WE SAVE MONEY ON OUR WORKERS' COMPENSATION. SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. THAT'S A GREAT AWARD, JUDGE, THAT, THAT TRANSLATES DIRECTLY INTO MONEY THAT TRANSLATES DIRECTLY INTO MONEY. RIGHT. AND ALSO INJURED EMPLOYEES. SO ON BEHALF OF COFFEY COUNTY, WE'LL ACCEPT, UH, THE COUNTY SAFETY AWARD. WELL, THE NICE THING HERE, THIS PRESS RELEASE SAYS ONLY 38 ENTITIES WERE HONORED WITH THIS. DID YOU MAKE A COPY FOR ALL THEM? YES. OKAY. WE HAVE TWO NEWSPAPERS HERE THIS MORNING. JACK, COULD YOU, UH, GIVE ONE OF THOSE TO ONE OF THOSE LADIES, PLEASE? MICHAEL'S BACK IN THE CORNER. OH, WHERE? WHERE? OH, THERE'S MICHAEL. I HEY, YOU RYAN, YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T COME UP AND TAKE MY PICTURE, SO I JUST HERE . THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THANK ALL YOU BE THANK. YEAH, BECAUSE IT TAKES, LIKE I SAID, AN EFFORT OF EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER TO, TO ACHIEVE THAT. WE JUST NEED SOME WAY NOW TO SAVE ON OUR HEALTH INSURANCE. DID WE MISS? I SAID WE ALL NEED THAT. UH, NO, I TOLD BE HERE AROUND 10. I DIDN'T GET A FIRST AND A SECOND ON ACKNOWLEDGING RECEIPT OF THAT COUNTY SAFETY AWARD. YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T, DID YOU? NO, I DIDN'T. I I PUT IT DOWN TO JERRY AND THEN I CHANGED TO JIM AND I'M WITH SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO MADE THE MOTION? UHUH. I SECOND. I VOTE. I SECOND JERRY. ALL THERE. AYE [00:20:01] A GOOD DEAL. OKAY. IS DMED THE ONLY ONE I'VE SKIPPED? UH, KENNETH HAD ONE. NO HONOR. WE DIDN'T. OKAY. I HAD TOLD, UH, MR. MEDLOCK THAT IT'D BE AT LEAST 10 O'CLOCK BEFORE YOU WERE ABLE TO GET TO HIM. OKAY. AND, UH, SO LET'S TAKE A BREAK AND, UH, HOPEFULLY HE'LL COME IN. I'LL TELL Y'ALL BRIEFLY WHAT THIS IS AGAIN. THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE TO US ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND HE HAS THIS PROGRAM THAT HE THINKS WILL ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO DETERMINE, UH, RE UH, QUALIFICATIONS FOR INDIGENT HEALTH AS WELL AS, UH, I THINK IT CAN BE CONVERTED OVER TO WORK WITH THE, UH, UH, INDIGENT DEFENSE. AND, UH, WHEN IT WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO US, UH, WE ALL FELT, WE ALL, I THINK ALL THE COURT FELT AT THE TIME IT WAS JUST TOO EXPENSIVE FOR US TO PARTICIPATE WITH AND IN RELY IN TOO EXPENSIVE FOR US TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN THE LIGHT OF WHAT IT COSTS AND THE RETURN THAT WE MIGHT GET. WELL, MR. MIDLOCK HAS, UH, UH, DONE SOME TWEAKING AND, UH, HE'S GOT SOME IDEAS. HE WANTED TO RUN BY US AGAIN, UH, TO SEE IF WE MIGHT BE INTERESTED. AND I THOUGHT, WELL, AS LONG AS HE CAN DO IT, WITHIN 15 MINUTES I'D GO AHEAD AND LET HIM COME AND PRESENT IT TO US AND, UH, FIGURED IF IT MIGHT SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY, WELL THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT. STILL MAY NOT AGREE TO USE IT, BUT WE STILL DOESN'T COST A LOOK. AND SO LET'S TAKE A, A BREAK AND A HOW LONG DID IT TAKE US TO GET THROUGH OUR AGENDA? YOU DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE SO SPEEDY. I KNOW. I'M GETTING USED TO THIS. YEAH, YOU GOTTA CALL HIM AND TELL ME. COME ON. I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BUSY CONTROVERSY OVER THOSE. DEPUTY CONSTABLE. YOU BETTER CALL HIM AND COME IN. COME ON. ALRIGHT, LINE ITEM TRANSFER. COUNTY JUDGE OFFICE GENERAL GOVERNMENT INCREASED LIFE INSURANCE COST 8,000 WITH REDUCTION IN PROPERTY INSURANCE. THIS ATTORNEY'S OFFICE INCREASED MILEAGE MEALS IN LODGING 2000 IN MISCELLANEOUS 500 WITH REDUCTION IN EXCHANGE CAR COSTS. JUDICIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT INCREASED MISCELLANEOUS 3000 REDUCTION IN PSYCHIATRIC EXAM, EXAM TAX, ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, INCREASED OFFICE SUPPLIES, 500 TRAINING, EDUCATIONAL CONFERENCES, 100 OFFICE FURNITURE, NEW EQUIPMENT, $301 REDUCTION OF CONTRACT LABEL OF 901. MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. INCREASED POSTAGE METER RENTAL, 2000 JANITOR JANITORIAL SERVICES, 5,000 PEST CONTROL 300 WITH REDUCTION IN UTILITIES OF 7,300 SHERIFF'S FUND. INCREASE MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING. 6,000 TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCES, 10,000 FOR PRODUCTION OF GAS AND OIL AND THE JAIL FUND INCREASED. THAT'S A SWITCH BETWEEN UH, CORRECTION OFFICERS AND WARRANT OFFICERS OF 8,000 CHARITIES. POOR AND RELIEF. INCREASED INVESTIGATIVE EXPENSES. 3000 WITH REDUCTION OF IN DEFENSE COSTS. CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASE REPAIRS TO COUNTY PROPERTY. 8,000 IN COUNTY COMMUNICATIONS 500 WITH REDUCTION OF COURTHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS OF 8,500 ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT. ONE INCREASED RENTAL OF EQUIPMENT 3000 WITH DEDUCTION OF CONTRACT LABOR ROAD THREE, INCREASE GAS IN OIL, 20,000 REDUCTION IN LOCAL MATERIALS AND RECORD MANAGEMENT FUND, INCREASE OFFICE SUPPLIES. 1000 WAS REDUCTION OF BOOK PRESERVATION COSTS. ADDITIONALLY IN THE, UH, ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT WE'RE CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUES FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF ELECTION EXPENSES OF 6,000 1 9 6 AND BUDGETING THAT FOR SALARIES. THE JUDGES, THE CLERKS, SOCIAL SECURITY AND MISCELLANEOUS. Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST? [00:25:06] I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UH, DURING THAT WE AMENDED, UH, VOTING BUDGET IT, UH, BECAUSE MR. MURPHY SAID HE WAS GONNA BE SHORT IN HIS EXTRA HELP. YES, SIR. OKAY. I I WONDER IF HE OKAY. I WAS JUST IN EXTRA HELP. YES, SIR. THAT I WAS WONDERING IF HE TOOK IN CONSIDERATION THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT HE WOULD BE GETTING WHEN HE ASKED FOR THAT MONEY. I BELIEVE HE DID. I BELIEVE HE DID ACTUALLY, BECAUSE HE ALREADY HAD THE MONEY. WE JUST HAD THE BUDGET TO DO SETTING IN REVENUE AS OPPOSED TO OFFSET EXPENSES, WHICH IS SHOULD BE, WE JUST BUDGET. THAT'S NOT FROM CHAPTER 19, IS IT? THAT'S NOT, NO, THAT'S JUST REIMBURSEMENT. WHERE IS THAT? I KNOW WE CAN'T CONTROL CHAPTER 19. RIGHT? THAT'S IN A SEPARATE FUND. THAT'S IN A SEPARATE FUND. YES. I HEAR YOU. THE SHERIFF'S MONEY OUT OF GAS. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HE BUYS. WEALTH OF GAS. NO, . I DIDN'T BUDGET THAT. WELL THE OTHER WAY. I KNOW IT'S, I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND WORK ON THE FIELD. DID WE GET APPROVAL ON MY ITEM TRANSFERS? NO WE DIDN'T. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO. MR. SHANE SAYS IT'S OKAY WITH HIM. COMMISSIONER CLARK SAYS HE'LL GO ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER SHANE ON THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. AYE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. WE STILL DONE. THERE'S A COUPLE. THAT'S IT. IN JANUARY WHEN WE GOT THE BILL FOR THE WORKERS' COMP THAT WE HAD, THAT WAS JACK 25. BARBARA AND JUDY, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE GOT CREDITED FOR OFF OF OUR WORKERS' COMP THIS YEAR FOR THE WHOLE YEAR WAS $100,000. THEY GAVE US, THEY BILL US QUARTERLY AND, AND UH, SO WE HAD $25,000 OFF THE BILL EACH QUARTER. RIGHT. WE WELL THAT'S A LOT. YES. THAT'S A LOT. JUDGE. THAT'S WORTH WORKING HARD. THAT IS, WE OUGHT SAY SOMETHING ABOUT OUR SHERIFF GOING UNDER THE KNIFE TODAY AND OH YEAH. SURGERY ON THE SHOULDER. YEAH. THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW THE SHERIFF IS, UH, HAVING UH, SOME SURGERY ON THE SHOULDER THIS MORNING. BE OUT FOR A FEW DAYS AND BE SURE FOR A LONG TIME AFTER THAT. THREE MONTHS REHAB. THREE MONTHS. OH, JUDY AND BARBARA, ANOTHER REASON WHY WE SET THIS AT 11 IS FOR THE DISTRICT JUDGES AND THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGES WORK IN THEIR SCHEDULE TO TAKE A BREAK AT THAT TIME WHERE THEY CAN COME LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION, HOPE THE SHOWS I DO TOO. ANYWAY. [00:30:03] AND GEORGE IS HERE TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION ALSO. YES SIR. EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN. YEAH. GEORGE EXPLAINED TO US, THAT'S WHY THEY GIVE 50 LIMIT. OH, I JUST WANTED TO, I GET ONE OF THESE EVERY WIDTH ABOUT THAT SAME AMOUNT SOMETIMES THAT'S CAN PHONE NUMBER. CAROL SIGNED IT. I'LL JUST CHARGE, LEMME KNOW HOW IT WORKS OUT. GOOD LUCK. OKAY. THANK YOU. [00:35:43] SO WE, THEY WANT GET A APPEAL. STAND THE BACK OVER HERE. I STEPPED ON THEY CAN'T THEY PULL HIM OVER HIGHWAY STEPFATHER. I, BECAUSE YOU CAN GO TWICE DINNER, LUNCH, GET ONE LITTLE FISH OR ONE SOMETHING. PICTURE PRETTY GOOD PICTURE. BALD EAGLE, BALD EAGLE, WHATEVER. KODIAK. THREE MONTHS. I'M SORRY. AMERICAN SOCIETY SECRET. [00:40:41] WE CHANGED, UH, COMPANIES BECAUSE WE GOT INSPECTED BY STATE INSPECTOR. NONE OF ONE OF THEM. I INSURANCE CAME BY AND CHANGED OUT A, BEEN INSPECT THREE YEARS COURT, SOMEBODY. OKAY, I TIME TO GET HERE. I CALLED A GUY RIGHT THERE, SAID S WERE CHECKED OUT EVERY YEAR. THAT'S UH, TOILET PAPER, TOILET. YOU HAD ONE OR TWO. SEE I HAD FOUR. HE HAD ONE. I HAD FOUR COME ALL SEVEN OF THEM. SEVEN. THEY JUST SPLIT IT UP. I HAD FOUR. WE HAD ONE BROTHER CLEANED UP. JERRY HAD ONE. WHAT? SOME SCRAP EVERYTHING WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE, YEAH, THERE WERE PEOPLE ON THE STREET OUT THERE BEFORE IT GOT TO US LOOKING IN EVERYBODY'S TRAILERS TAKING GOOD STUFF. TAKE WANT TAKE IT OFF. I WANT THIS PBS IS THAT ? WE JUST BURIED HALF THE TRANSPORT. TRANSPORT. YEAH. IT MUST BE, UH, YOU LOOK CLOSE RESEMBLANCE, DOESN'T IT? [00:45:01] ? IS THERE A FAMILY A GOOD REASON FOR THAT? FOR THAT? IS HE GONNA MAKE IT THIS MORNING OR YOU GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT? NO, I, IT'LL BE ME. JUST YOU. YEAH. WELL HOPEFULLY THE DISTRICT JUDGES WILL BE ABLE TO COME DOWN IN. YOU NEED INFORM. PARDON? YOU NEED TO BE AN INFORMANT. I DO. YEAH. IT PAYS BETTER THAN MILE MILEAGE IS A LITTLE LESS NAMELESS. , YOU KNOW, I'VE ASKED, YOU KNOW, GOTTEN ROUND TO DOING IT YET, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SAY ROUND TO IT. HAVEN'T GOTTEN AROUND TO DOING IT YET, BUT CAN'T GET, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SAVING AN ACRE SIDE AT THE, ON THAT 40 OUT THERE FOR BURIAL SITE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UPKEEP ON THAT. WE'LL HAVE CHAIN LINK FENCE IT OFF AND THEN UH, WE'LL HAVE START UPKEEP IT. UH, OUR INDIGENT FUNERALS COME IN SPORTS. SOMETIMES WE UH, GO FOR A WHILE WITHOUT IN, AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE SEVERAL AT ONE TIME AND WE'RE PAYING SEVEN 50 A FUNERAL. NOW IN THE PAST WHEN WE COULD DETERMINE WHERE THERE WERE EMPTY GRAVES OUT AT THE OLD CEMETERY AND I WOULD, I HAD A STANDING RULE THAT THE COUNTY WILL PAY FOR THE FUNERAL IF THEY'RE BURIED IN THE PROPER CEMETERY. UM, AND A LOT OF TIMES IN THE FAMILIES WOULD SAY, OH, I DON'T DON'T WANT THAT. THEN THEY'D COME UP WITH THE MONEY AND, AND THE COUNTY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY IT. UH, SOMETIMES I WONDER WHICH IS GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE TO CONTINUE AFTER WE ARE OR PAY THE UPKEEP TRUSTEES THERE TO THE SHERIFF HAD POINTED UP ONE TIME WHO MAY PAY FOR IT OR THEY DO PAY FOR IT FOR IT. BILL, DID WE GET OUR MONEY FROM WE PHASE THREE PS? YEAH, WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS ON THE BOAT BECAUSE IT'S TOO WIDE. CLEANING. CLEANING DITCHES UP. YOU, IT'S HARD TO STICK SO FAR THIS WAY. YOU GOT THAT'S THE ONLY BRING YOUR, YOU GOT IT. [00:50:02] THEY OPERATE THE SAME AS I'M I'M, ONCE I GET SITUATION, KENNETH, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR PERSONAL THERE'S MIGHT BE WORK. WE'RE NOT SENDING THEM ENOUGH STUFF. THINK ABOUT THIS. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW A GAS BILL FOR PRECINCT? I SAW IT ON MINE. I WISH. THAT'S WHY MY BUDGET WAS BUSTED. YEAH, WE GETTING, GETTING GAS BILLS. HUH? GAS BILL. WE GET YOUR GAS BILLS OUT. GAS BILL. JERRY AND I ALWAYS GET THESE 10,000 BILLS EVERY MONTH. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY GAS. YOU LOOK AT KATHY'S PRETTY GOOD AT THAT. Y'ALL TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. HE DID NEIGHBORS BOOKS. MY WANTS TO PUT TWO MOSQUITO OUT IN THE FRONT YARD. ONES, ONES THAT ARE THAT DON'T BRANCH OUT. SHE WANTS GET SMALL ONE. I GOT 40 ACRES THROUGH JANUARY 30. JACK, HOW WE DOING ON THE CLOSING ON THAT PROPERTY ON CLOSING DATE? HOW MUCH HAVE YOU SPENT? AND THIS IS A WHILE BACK. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE HUNDRED 48. RIGHT? WELL AND THAT WAS, BUT THAT WAS THE TIME WE WERE LOOKING AT IT WAS, UM, MARCH THROUGH JANUARY. I DON'T DON'T SEE ANY PBS. WE, WE ENDED THE OTHER THAT'S FOR SHADOW LAKE. LOOK AT THAT ONE. THAT'S SHADOW LAKE. BUT MY QUESTION WAS WORTH THE INCOME THAT OFFSETS THAT. YEAH. IT SHOULD BE THEIR PLANNING FEES. YES. RIGHT. YES, YES, YES. BUT IS THEIR PLANNING FEES GOING TO BE ABOVE THE PAPERWORK? YES. ENGINEERING FOR YEAH, THEY JUST PAY FOR THEIR PLANNING. IS THAT RIGHT? THEY DON'T PAY ENGINEERING COSTS ABOVE THAT. THE ENGINEERING, THE ENGINEERING COSTS. WELL I, ON PHASE ONE THEY PAY 30. WAS THAT PLA PLEASE? DID YOU SHOW TOTAL? IT COVERED A HUNDRED. I JUST CLOSED IT. UM, IT COVERED FORTY EIGHT, A HUNDRED FORTY EIGHT LOTS AND, UM, LET SEE IF I CAN GRAB IT REAL FAST. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY LINEAR FEET OF ROADS, BUT LINEAR. YEAH, WE HAD A WORKSHOP. HAVE TO GET BUDGET. NO, NO. I MEAN WE HAD A WORK, RIGHT? YEAH. AND WE WERE GOING TO SET IT UP. WE MADE SURE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SET UP HIGH ENOUGH TO COVER ALL AND WE'RE GONNA SET A LITTLE HIGHER. [00:55:01] AND THE CITY OF POLICE CAME UP WITH SAID, NO, YOU'RE GOING STAB ALL DEVELOPMENT IN COUNTY. WE NEVER DID GET ANYTHING ON WAS GONNA SEND US PROPOSAL. WE WERE GONNA LET, UH, THEY WERE GONNA LET DO IT DIFFERENTLY. OH REALLY? THEY'RE NOT INSPECTED BY THE CITY. THEY'RE NOT INSPECTED BY STEVE SAID HE DIDN'T, DIDN'T INSPECT. AT NO POINT, HE DOESN'T, DOESN'T INSPECT NO SEVEN AND THE A TJ. SO WHEN THE ROAD COMES THROUGH THERE THAT YOU, THAT HADN'T BEEN LOOKED AT, IT'S GOING BE AS ETG, IT'S GONNA BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT. SURE. BUT WHO'S INSPECTED IT? NOWHERE. SO IF YOU THINK IT'S EXPENSIVE TO FIX A ASPHALT ROAD, WAIT TILL FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS DOWN YOU TURN CONCRETE GROVE REPLACE. OH YEAH. WHICH IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. YES. WE'VE GOT SEMINARY THAT'S OPENED UP DOWN LIKE RON BROWN SIT DOWN THERE IN . HE SAID THEY HAD THEM CONCRETE ROADS PUT IN, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO. NOW IT'S HIS DEAL. GO BACK AND REPLACE THEM. WE HAD TO DO SOME WORK ON ONE OF OUR CONCRETE ROWS THAT'S BEEN THERE ABOUT 20 YEARS. LUCKY WE GOT WORKING FOR, BEEN IN THE CONCRETE BUSINESS BEFORE. SO I SAID, I TOLD JERRY, I THINK LOT COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN THE WAY THE HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. THE, UH, SUBDIVISION, THAT'S LIKE SOMEBODY TO TELL ME IN, IN AN E, TJ IS A CITY NOT A SUBDIVISION. DOES THE CITY HAVE AUTHORITY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT IF THEY'VE GOT TWO 12 DEVELOPERS THAT DO, OTHER THAN THAT IT SAYS, LAW SPECIFICALLY SAYS THEY CANNOT ENFORCE ANY BUILDING CODE IN THAT. THEY'VE GOT DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS THAT SAYS THEY CAN DO THAT. AND THAT OVERRIDES IT. THE TWO 12. SO IF THEY GOT A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT SAYING THEY CAN CHARGE FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND DO INSPECTIONS, THEY CAN'T 3 82 12 AGREEMENT OVERRIDES STATUTE EXCEPT GET $3 MILLION FOR INSPECTIONS GUARANTEE WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE JUDGE A FEW MORE MINUTES AND THEN [01:00:01] IF THEY'RE NOT HERE, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD GET STARTED THAT HE DIDN'T WANT. AND BASICALLY BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE JUDGES AND THEY MAY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE HERE, THAT'S OKAY, BUT OKAY. BUT YOU DID, SHOULD YOU TELL HIM HE CAN'T SELL THOSE TO MOTIVATORS? JUST WE'RE GONNA CAST A CHICKEN DECIDE THAT WE CAN'T DO FIRST I THOUGHT I HAD SOMETHING FOR REV, I STAY OFF SOME OF THEM DIDN'T DO THAT. DISTRICT SEVEN SURE. YOU JERRY I, THROUGH LIFTING ALL THAT STUFF, THESE GUYS, JERRY AND I, THROUGH NO COMPANY PRESENT, PRESENTED A PRESENTATION, UH, FOR A PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE TO, TO HELP, UH, INDIGENT HEALTH, INDIGENT DEFENSE AND COLLECTIONS ON DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE INDIVIDUAL DETERMINE THE ASSETS OF THE INDIVIDUAL BASICALLY IS WHAT IT'S MM-HMM . AND UH, UH, SO SINCE WE'RE INVOLVED IN ALL THOSE THINGS AT THE TIME, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSITION, [01:05:01] UH, JUDGE TAG AND, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW JUDGE T***Y STOOD ON, BUT JUDGE TAG I THINK WAS THE MOST VOCAL ONE THAT, THAT THE COST, WHAT IT COST WOULD NOT GIVE US BACK A RETURN. AND, UH, THOUGHT IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE, UH, A PROGRAM TO PARTICIPATE IN. SO, UH, DMED TALKED TO ME SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF AND, UH, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT, UH, TO GET THE COST DOWN AND, UH, THAT IT'S A TOOL TO HELP QUALIFY OR DISQUALIFY PEOPLE WHO ARE FILING FOR INDIGENT HEALTH SERVICES, INDIGENT DEFENSE SERVICES. AND WHEN WE GO TO THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT ON WHAT THEIR ASSETS ARE. SO THAT'S A TOOL. AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, SPOKE TO THEM. THEY FELT LIKE IF, IF, IF, IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF SAVING THE COUNTY MONEY, AT LEAST WHAT WE COULD DO IS LISTEN TO THE PROPOSITION. DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE IN FAVOR OF IT, NOT IN FAVOR OF IT OR WHATEVER. WE'RE JUST WANTING INFORMATION. AND I GAVE THIS YOUNG MAN DOING WHEN I TALKED TO HIM ON THE PHONE THAT IF IT TAKES MORE THAN 15 MINUTES, WE HAVE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP. BUT IF HE CAN KEEP IT UNDER 15 MINUTES, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE IT AT REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING AND I'D INVITE THE JUDGES. OKAY, SO NOW I THINK IT'S 10 MINUTES. IT'S UP TO YOU ALL 15 MINUTES. THAT'S GOT THE NEW PRICE STRUCTURE ON THERE. PASS DOWN. JUDGE JEN. UM, MY NAME'S TRAVIS MEDLOCK. I'M WITH DMED CORPORATION. I LIKE, UH, JUDGE JEN WAS SAYING WE'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES. ONE OF 'EM WAS TO PRESENT AND I RECOGNIZE A LOT OF YOUR FACES AND WE DID A, UM, A PROOF OF CONCEPT. AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THAT STUDY WITH ME. I FLEW IN FROM ARIZONA LAST NIGHT, SO I HAVEN'T MADE IT TO THE OFFICE YET. SO I'LL JUST KINDA GIVE YOU THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION OF IT. WHAT WE HAVE IS WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED FOR HEALTHCARE. IT'S IN ABOUT 150 HOSPITALS AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT IDENTIFIES WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED CHARITY GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE. UM, IN THE HEALTHCARE SETTING. IT'LL TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND IDENTIFY WHETHER OR NOT THEY, THEY, UH, QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID, SINGLE PREGNANT MOTHERS, RYAN WHITE, ANY GOVERNMENT PROGRAM OUT THERE THAT'LL ACTUALLY PAY FOR IT. SO IT ACTUALLY FINDS REVENUE FOR, UM, THE HEALTHCARE CLIENTS. UM, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OVER IN, UM, TARRANT COUNTY ACTUALLY SAT IN ON A JOHN PETER SMITH HOSPITAL PRESENTATION AND ASKED IF THEY CAN BE TAILORED TO THE INDIGENT DEFENSE SIDE. AND WE ASKED WHAT THE RENT, WHAT THE SPECIFICATIONS WERE AND WE TAILORED IT TOWARDS THAT. CAME BACK, WON A PROPOSAL FOR AN RFP WITH DALLAS COUNTY, UH, JUST GENERICALLY HOW CAN YOU SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY? AND UH, WE WERE ONE OF FIVE COMPANIES IN IN DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES, UH, THAT WON. IT TOOK US NACO, NACO, UH, PARTNERED WITH US. SO NOW WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH NACO. WE'VE KIND OF BEEN RUNNING FOR JUST ABOUT THREE YEARS. YOU WERE ONE OF OUR FIRST ONES WE PRESENTED TO. UM, AND IT'S TAKEN ABOUT THAT LONG FOR EVERYBODY TO KIND OF, OF GET THEIR HANDS AROUND IT. UM, 'CAUSE EVERYBODY IS, IS KIND OF DOING A HODGEPODGE OF THINGS. UM, SO THIS YEAR IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING SOME PEAKS. WE IMPLEMENT IN, UH, CORPUS CHRISTI NEXT MONDAY, THE STATE OF, UH, NEVADA STARTING WITH CLARK COUNTY, UM, JULY 1ST. AND SO WE'RE FINALLY STARTING TO GET SOME TRACTION. WHAT THE SYSTEM DOES IN THE INDIGENT DEFENSE SIDE, IF SOMEONE ASKS FOR AN ATTORNEY, THIS IS FAIRLY BASIC, IF THEY ASK FOR AN ATTORNEY, YOU ENTER A NAME AND ADDRESS IN THERE WITHIN THREE TO SIX SECONDS, IT COMES BACK WITH A SOCIAL SECURITY, UH, ADMINISTRATION CHECK, MAKING SURE THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER IS ACCURATE WITH AN ADDRESS VERIFICATION AND WITH AN A MINIMUM ESTIMATION ON THEIR INCOME. AND HOW THEY CALCULATE THAT IS BY GOING OUT THERE AND LOOKING AT THEIR SPENDING HABITS. IF THEY SAY, COME IN AND SAY, I ONLY MAKE $500 A MONTH, I DO ODD JOBS. THEN YOU RUN THE SYSTEM AND THEY SEE A MORTGAGE PAYMENT ON THERE. THEY CALCULATE THAT IN, THEY SEE TWO AUTOS BEING LEASED. THEY CALCULATE THAT IN, THEY SEE, UM, UM, A VACATION HOME IN A DIFFERENT STATE. THEY CALCULATE THAT. AND SO THEY SAY AT A MINIMUM THIS PERSON HAS TO BE MAKING $2,500 A MONTH. SO IT BASICALLY RUNS UP RED FLAGS. SO IT'S NOT GONNA SAY THIS PERSON GETS AN ATTORNEY THAT'S STILL GONNA BE UP TO THE JUDGE. IT'S JUST GONNA GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE A SOUND DECISION. AND THAT INFORMATION'S GONNA COME BACK WITHIN THREE TO SIX SECONDS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY THERE. UM, SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION CHECKS ON THE PROOF OF CONCEPT. UH, WE RAN, I BELIEVE WE FOUND SOME THINGS SUCH AS, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER NEVER, UH, ADMINISTERED BY THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, [01:10:01] SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, UH, USED IN DEATH . SO YOU FIND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, AND IT'S DESIGNED TO BE DONE, BE, UH, COMPLETED FACE TO FACE. SO YOU'RE SITTING DOWN WITH THE DEFENDANT RIGHT THERE. YOU HIT 'EM WITH A SOCIAL SECURITY DISCREPANCY AND THEY START BACKPEDALING. YOU HIT 'EM WITH AN ADDRESS DISCREPANCY AND THEY REALLY START BACKPEDALING BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO THEIR FINANCIAL INFORMATION. THE ENTIRE DYNAMICS OF THE, OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS HAS CHANGED AND YOU'RE GETTING ACCURATE INFORMATION. SO THAT IS PROBABLY THE REAL STRENGTH HERE IS YOU'VE GOT A WEAPON OF INFORMATION BASICALLY. AND, UM, THAT, I MEAN THAT'S JUST THE CORE BASIS OF THE SYSTEM. IT'S REALLY, REALLY A SIMPLE SYSTEM. NOW IN DALLAS COUNTY, WE RAN A PILOT PROGRAM TO WHERE WE FIRST ON THE PROOF OF CONCEPT WHERE YOU JUST RUN IT AND YOU GET THE INFORMATION BACK. WE FOUND 8% OF THE DEFENDANTS HAD THE ABILITY TO PAY OUTRIGHT WHEN WE WENT IN TO IMPLEMENT AND DO A PILOT PROGRAM ACTUALLY LIVE. UM, WE TOOK THE ACTUAL AFFIDAVITS AND WE ENTERED THEM IN THE SYSTEM. ONCE WE DID THAT ON TOP OF THAT 8%, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND ANOTHER 9%, UM, WHICH INCREASED IT. SO, AND THAT'S SIMPLY BY ENTERING THE DATA THAT THEY ACTUALLY COMPLETED WITH AN INTERVIEW WIZARD ON THE BACK END. SO IF YOU FIND A NO HIT, UM, AND THEN THEY PROVIDE FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON THE AFFIDAVIT, YOU CAN MANUALLY PUT THAT IN RECALCULATE A NO COST. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT AN ADDITIONAL GROUP. SO IN DALLAS COUNTY WE WERE ABLE TO DO, UH, 19% WAS A GRAND TOTAL. UM, WE'RE EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY 25% BY TAKING THE AFFIDAVITS AND BEFORE ENTERING THEM IN, WE ENTERED THEM IN WITHOUT QUESTIONING, UH, THE FIRST TIME TAKING A GLANCE AT IT, JUST SPOT CHECKING. IT'S GONNA TAKE TWO TO THREE SECONDS TO SEE THE HOTSPOTS ON THE, ON A SINGLE PAGE DOCUMENT. YOU CAN TELL WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GIVING YOU ALL THE INFORMATION, HAND IT RIGHT BACK TO 'EM, HAVE 'EM COMPLETE IT, SAY WE'RE GONNA CHECK IT AND THEN GET THE INFORMATION BACK. AND THEN IN, WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE IT EVEN, EVEN HIGHER TO 25%. SO, AND I HEARD YOU TALKING ABOUT INDIGENT BURIAL EARLIER. THIS SYSTEM COULD BE USED FOR ANYTHING WHERE YOU NEED TO DETERMINE INDIGENCY. UM, INDIGENT BURIAL IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH A COUPLE OTHER COUNTIES. SOME OF THE OTHER USES CAN BE PROBATION FEES, UM, COLLECTIONS AND ASSESSMENT OF PROBATION FEES, INCARCERATION FEES. SOME COUNTIES ARE LOOKING AT IT TO, UM, IDENTIFY THOSE WHO CAN PAY BACK THEIR TIME IN JAIL. SO WAYNE COUNTY UP IN, UH, MICHIGAN IS LOOKING AT IT FOR, THEY'VE GOT A A 30 DAY AVERAGE INCARCERATION WITH A $60 INCARCERATION FEE. THEY'RE LOOKING TO IDENTIFY ALL THE INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN PAY THAT MONEY BACK. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE USES AND A LOT OF TIMES I JUST SIT BACK AND WHAT THE COUNTIES KIND OF TELL ME WHAT THEY WANT TO USE IT FOR. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN SOME OF THESE OTHER, OTHER YOU ALSO USE THE APPLICATION FEE ON HERE. UM, SOME OF 'EM ARE USING THE APPLICATION FEE TO PAY FOR THE SYSTEM. SO YOU MADE IT CHARGE THE INDIGENT PERSON ON AN APPLICATION FEE. RIGHT, RIGHT. SOUNDS KIND OF CREEPY SOMETIMES, BUT A LOT OF 'EM ARE ALREADY DOING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE JUST FOR THE AFFIDAVIT. SO THEY'RE JUST ROLLING IT STRAIGHT OVER. SO, UM, AND KIND OF WHAT PROMPTED THIS IS WE HAVE LOWERED THE PRICES. WE CUT 'EM ABOUT IN HALF AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE STILL OPEN TO IS DOING JOINT CONTRACTING WITH MULTIPLE COUNTIES. UH, GREG COUNTY IS, UH, IS LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM. WE'VE DONE PROOF OF CONCEPTS FOR THEM. VAN COUNTY HAS LOOKED AT THE SYSTEM AND SMITH COUNTY, UM, HAS LOOKED AT THE SYSTEM AND THEY'VE GOT ONE OF THE JUDGES RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT IT FOR BUDGET PURPOSES. SO USING ALL THOSE COUNTIES, WE COULD ACTUALLY BRING THAT. IT IS BASED ON VOLUMES. SO WE CAN BRING THAT VOLUME DOWN TO THE BOTTOM TIER JUST BY, JUST BY THE MASSES. SO WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO THAT. SOME OF THE TROUBLE IS JUST GETTING ALL THE COUNTIES TOGETHER TO TO AGREE ON ONE THING. SO, BUT DALLAS IS USING IT NOW. DALLAS IS HALF USING IT. UH, DALLAS HAS BEEN A BIG FRUSTRATION. UM, IT'S PURE POLITICS OVER THERE. UM, WE DID IMPLEMENT IT, UM, AND SOMEONE WATCHED THE TIME FORMAT. I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER, BUT WE DID WA UH, IMPLEMENT IT THERE AND THEY'VE GOT, UH, COURT COORDINATORS. THE PROBLEM WE RAN INTO OVER THERE WITH THE COURT COORDINATORS IS THEY GOT 17 OF 'EM WHERE WE WERE IMPLEMENTING. WE ONLY DID 'EM WITH FIVE. THERE'S NOT A CENTRAL PERSON OVER ANY OF THOSE COURT COORDINATORS. UM, SO THEY ALL KIND OF RUN BY THEMSELVES. SO THEY ALL DO THINGS INDEPENDENTLY AND THEY, THEY, THEY DO WHAT THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT AND THEY, THEY DETERMINED THAT THEY COULD MAKE THE DECISIONS BY LOOKING AT THE PERSON BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE. SO THEN WE, WE PULLED THAT [01:15:01] BACK, UM, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AT THE PRETRIAL SERVICES AREA. GOT OKAY. AND IT'S A BRAND NEW DEPARTMENT. THEY JUST STARTED IT BACK UP LAST LAST YEAR. SO NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE USING OUR SYSTEM TO UH, TRY TO GET MORE STAFFING IN THAT AREA. SO IT'S BECOME JUST A BIG POLITICAL, YOU HAVE A LIST OF COUNTIES AROUND CLOSE BY THAT I KNOW LOOKING AT IT, SMITH'S LOOKING AT IT, BUT SOME THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN USING IT. YES, ZERO , I CAN TELL YOU THAT. UM, DALLAS COUNTY IS THE FIRST CONTRACT WE'VE HAD. OKAY. CORPUS CHRISTI COMES ON NEXT WEEK, NEXT MONDAY OR TUESDAY I GO DOWN THERE FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND THEN CLARK COUNTY IN NEVADA IS GONNA BE THE FIRST OF THE STATE OF NEVADA. THE WHOLE STATE'S SIGNED UP FOR IT. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE FINALLY GETTING SOME TRACTION. SO, AND I'M HOPING THE LOWERING OF THE PRICES WILL KIND OF KICK THAT OFF. WILLIAMSON COUNTY DOWN, DOWN, UH, BY AUSTIN, UM, HAS LOOKED AT IT AND LINDA GUADALUPE COUNTY DOWN THERE. SO WE'VE BEEN RUNNING A LOT. IT'S JUST, JUST NO TRACTION. JUST TIGER. THIS IS THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, UH, TWO YEARS OR SO AGO. AND THE TIME, THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT WAS IS THE COST. YEAH. THAT THE RETURN WE WERE GONNA GET, NOT GOING TO BE CONS, COMM COMMED WITH THE LAW, WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING FOR IT. UH, AND THE PROOF OF CONCEPT DID SHOW THAT IT WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF. WITH THAT. IT'S JUST, AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN THROUGHOUT ALL THE COUNTIES, IT STILL SHOWED THAT IT PAID FOR ITSELF AND THEN SOME SAVED MONEY. BUT THAT, THAT OUR COST JUST SCARES EVERYBODY. SO WE JUST FINALLY HAD THE REALIZATION THAT WE HAD TO LOWER IT. VICKY, WHAT SYSTEM DO YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT YOU USE NOW TO RESEARCH THE INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY COME IN TO APPLY FOR INDIGENT? UH, WE JUST SIGNED CONTRACT WITH IHS. THEY PUT INTO PLACE A SYSTEM. IT'S NOT AS THOROUGH AS DI THINK TRAVIS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. CREDIT. YEAH, YEAH. AVAILABLE. WELL ACTUALLY GIVE CREDIT CARDS AND BALANCES LEFT ON 'EM AND EVERYTHING. RIGHT. SO NOW IHS THAT'S MORE OF A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, ISN'T IT? YES. OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DETERMINE WHETHER THEY ARE INOGEN, IT JUST, IT USES SOME OF THE RESOURCES, RIGHT. OR AVAILABLE. IT'S A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. UM, SO IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DETERMINE THAT IF THEY ARE, UM, SECURITY. AND DAVID, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING THE UH, YES SIR. THE APPOINTMENTS ON THE INCIDENT, THE RESEARCH FOR THE APPOINTMENTS NOW. YES SIR. DO YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT OF ANY TYPE LIKE THIS? UH, WE DO NOT HAVE A SYSTEM OF TO DO ANY TYPE OF CREDIT CHECK ON ACCURATE. WE DO ACCURATE, WE DO, WE DO CONFIRM ADDRESSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT NOTHING THAT WILL GIMME A CREDIT SCORE OR A ASSETS ASSET. ASSETS THEY'LL GIVE YOU AS LONG AS IT'S, YOU KNOW, PROPER LONG AS IT'S IN THE RIGHT NAME. YOU MEAN THE INDIVIDUAL WILL OR THE COMPUTER? THE COMPUTER WILL, BUT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF HE'S LIVING WITH MOM OR DAD OR WHOEVER HAS ACCESS TO THOSE, THEY WON'T GIVE US, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN SCHEDULE A DEMONSTRATION FOR YOU IF, UH, WE'RE JUST RIGHT OVER IN DALLAS, SO GETS ME OUTTA THE OFFICE. SO AND THIS IS THIS INSTANTANEOUS, I MEAN IT COMES BACK WITHIN A COUPLE MINUTES JUST YEAH, I SAY THREE TO SIX SECONDS AND I GOT IN TROUBLE WITH ONE SMALLER COUNTY. IT'S AS FAST AS YOUR SCREEN REFRESHES. THEY HAD SOME OLD COMPUTERS AND IT JUST TOOK FOREVER. SO, BUT YEAH, IT'S AS FAST AS YOUR SCREEN STRETCHES AND THAT'S WHY IT'S DESIGNED TO BE DONE FACE TO FACE. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY START SEEING A BACKPEDAL. VICKY. YEAH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG LAURA, WHAT WERE THE NUMBERS THAT WE GAVE HIM LAST TIME THAT GEORGE PULLED? WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE, THE NUMBER OF NAMES THAT WE WENT THROUGH? IT'S, IT, IT WAS PROBABLY 250. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE USUALLY ASK FOR. AND IT CAME BACK, I WOULD SAY SIX OR 7% HAD THE ABILITY TO PAY RIGHT OUTRIGHT. JUST OUTRIGHT AND WHAT, WHAT THE USUAL NUMBERS ARE. AND I, AGAIN, THESE ARE AVERAGED, I'VE SEEN 'EM ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT THE USUAL NUMBERS ARE 10%, UM, OUTRIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY. I KNOW THE 10% HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY BACK OVER TIME AND THAT'S A BIG, BIG ISSUE. SO YOU CAN AT LEAST IDENTIFY IT MAY PUT SOME UNDUE HARDSHIP ON 'EM IF YOU, IF YOU DENY THEM AND TELL THEM TO GO GET A PRIVATE ONE BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE. UM, BUT IF YOU SEE THAT THEY'RE BORDERLINE, GO AHEAD AND GRANT THEM AN ATTORNEY. BUT THEN YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY BACK SO YOU CAN PUT THAT ON THE BACK END. SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 10%. SO THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE, WHAT WE SHOW. SO A TOTAL OF 20% [01:20:01] SAVINGS. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE JUDGES IF THE CONCEPT WAS GOOD, IF THE PRICE YOU'VE GOT THE PRICE DOWN TO THE HIGHEST IS $6, THE LOWEST IS $2. YEAH. BASED ON VOLUMES. BASED ON VOLUME. THERE'S STILL THAT $1,800 MINIMUM. YEAH. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE ANY TOOL THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR US. AGAINST THE QUESTION OF THE COST AS FAR AS SIMPLY POINTING SOMEONE, UH, IF THEY'RE IN JAIL AND THEY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE NO PROSPECTS OF GETTING OUT, THEY'RE PROBABLY IS, MAY NOT BE A HUNDRED PERCENT AS CLOSE. RIGHT. UH, IF THEY'RE OUTTA JAIL, UH, GENERALLY THEY DON'T GET AN ATTORNEY UNLESS THEY'RE UH, UNLESS THEY'RE DISABLED LIVING WITH MOM. NOW THERE, THERE, THERE'S SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT I'VE HEARD. I'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT UH, JUST ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO GO TO WORK AND WE BRING 'EM IN MONTH AFTER MONTH THINKING I CAN FORCE THEM TO GO TO WORK. AND YOU PUT UP TO TRIAL WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY OR APPOINT SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO TO WORK HERE. YEAH. AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY OUT THERE. THEY'RE ALSO, THEY'RE THE EXCEPTIONS SOMETIMES, BUT YOU HAVE TO CALCULATE IT IN THERE. BUT SOME OF THE ONES THAT, THAT ARE GONNA BE IN JAIL, YOU JUST SIMPLY JUST DON'T RUN IT ON THEM. SO YOU PICK AND CHOOSE WHO YOU RUN IT ON. OKAY. AND UH, YOU HAVE UH, YOU A FIRST OR SECOND DEGREE FELONY PRETTY HIGH. YEP. UH, THAT SAME TOKEN, IT WAS UH, THE STATE JAIL FELONY, PRONOUNCE IT, UH, A COCAINE. YOU, THEY'RE OUTTA JAIL. THEY'RE NOT DISABLED. THEY CAN, THEY CAN COURT AN ATTORNEY. YEP. BUT I MEAN WE, ANY TOOL WE CAN HAVE, WE APPRECIATE IT. JUST QUESTION IT COST, HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEND ENOUGH ON INDIGENT DEFENSE? YOU MEAN THE TOTAL COST? YEAH. WELL THAT'S HARD TO SAY RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE WE'RE IN A TRANSITION. WE CREATED THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND THAT'S WHO DAVID WORKS FOR AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS SEATED NEXT TO HIM THERE, MR. JORDAN. AND, UH, BETWEEN THEIR PROGRAM, UH, WE'RE GUESSING RIGHT NOW WE'RE SAVING CLOSE TO 500,000 A YEAR RIGHT NOW. WELL, WHERE ARE YOU SPENDING? I KNOW THE MILLION TWO. 1,000,002. OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER A MILLION. YEAH, AND UH, WE CUT THAT DOWN NOW TO TOTAL, UH, PROBABLY AROUND 700. WOW. AND WE THINK WE CAN DECREASE THAT EVEN. THAT'S GOOD. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE BEEN STAGNANT ON THIS MM-HMM . WE'VE BEEN MOVING FORWARD TO IT. UH, BUT LIKE JUDGE TIGER SAID, THERE'S SOME TOOL AVAILABLE THAT WILL MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT AND BETTER AT A COST THAT WE CAN AFFORD. THEN UH, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST AND YOU POINT OUT YOU'D LIKE COME, DO YOU HAVE TO COME DOWN AND DEMONSTRATE IT? YEAH. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO FOR YOU TO SET UP AN APPOINTMENT IF VICKY DOESN'T MIND WITH VICKY TO SHOW HER WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR HER. SHE'S THE INDIGENT HEALTH. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, DAVID MILLER THERE IS THE INDIGENT DEFENSE COORDINATOR AND JOHNNY COUNCILMAN'S NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT. OKAY. AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO DEMONSTRATE THAT TO THOSE THREE AND THEN LET ME GET INPUT BACK FROM THEM. OKAY. AND, AND THEN THEY CAN DISCUSS IT WITH THE JUDGES AND AS WELL. AND, UH, THEN WE'LL GET A REPORT BACK AND THEN, UH, SEE IF WE CAN'T TWEAK THAT CAUSE TO OR MORE. OKAY. WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO LIKE A TRICOUNTY, UM, DEMONSTRATION OR ANYTHING TO SORT OF START WORKING MULTIPLE COUNTIES IN TOGETHER? I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO, TO, UH, UH, WORKING WITH OTHER COUNTIES ON IT. MM-HMM . AS LONG AS WE GET THE BENEFIT YEAH. WE SHOULD GET, AND WELL IT STRICTLY BE FOUR COST BASIS AS FAR AS COORDINATING DEMONSTRATION WITH THREE COUNTIES AT ONE TIME. THAT'S GONNA BE HARD BECAUSE THESE, THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE OTHER DUTIES AS WELL. SO LET'S STRICTLY JUST LOOKING AT FOR ON COST BASIS, UM, AND IT WOULD BE SET UP WHERE YOU REALLY WOULDN'T EVEN NOTICE. WELL FIRST THING WE NEED TO ESTABLISH IS WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BENEFIT FROM? ABSOLUTELY. ONCE WE ESTABLISH THAT, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE COST. YEAH. WELL IT'S THE COST THAT GOES DOWN WITH MORE COUNTIES JUST BY PURE VOLUME. SO RIGHT. WHERE DAVID, WHERE DO YOU DO [01:25:01] YOUR INTERVIEW? JAIL. YOU DO AS MAGISTRATE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME? YES SIR. EVERY INTERVIEW WE WILL ALSO, THE JUDGES WILL HAVE PEOPLE COME UP IN FRONT OF US, UH, THAT, UH, ARE OUTTA GOOD AND SAY THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. SO WE HAVE THIS CAPABILITY ON OUR COMPUTERS ALSO. RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'D BE BEST. IT'S ALL INTERNET BASED, SO AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A COMPUTER WE CAN JUST PUT A, AN ICON ON YOUR DESKTOP AND YOU JUST IMMEDIATE ACCESS. WELL, DOES ANYONE THINK WE SHOULD APPROACH IT FROM A DIFFERENT WAY? I MEAN, FIRST I THINK WE'LL ESTABLISH IF WE COULD USE IT. YEAH. I, I LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA DO IT TO, TO YEAH. UNDERSTAND. THAT MAKES SENSE. AND IF WE'RE, IF WE CAN'T USE IT, IT'S NOT GONNA HELP US THEN NO SENSE IN PURSUING IT. BUT IF THOSE IN, IF THOSE PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD TOOL, IT'LL HELP US OUT. EVEN 5% IF WE THAT COST 5% AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T COST US 5%, GET THAT 5%. RIGHT. ALRIGHT, I'LL COORDINATE WITH THEM AND MIGHT DAVID, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD OUR AVERAGE TRANSACTION FOR A MONTH BE? CAN YOU PULL IT OUT HERE? LAST MONTH WE SIGNED 140 PEOPLE THROUGH MILE. YES SIR. THAT'S HAPPENING. WE ASSIGNED SOME, WE REJECTED, SOME OF THEM DIDN'T QUALIFY, SO WE PROBABLY RAN MORE. MAYBE NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S HAPPENING. WE, WE ASSIGNED. IF IF YOU HAD THIS SYSTEM AND RUN ALL OF THEM THROUGH IT WOULD BE, WELL, I MEAN SOME PEOPLE WE KNOW JUST TRY NOT SHEER REPEAT THAT THEY ARE YOU'RE FREQUENT FLYERS. YOU MEAN YOU HAVE REPEAT CUSTOMER UNFORTUNATELY. VICKY, I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD DEPENDING OVER, OVER TWO APPLICATIONS LAST MONTH. 3, 3, 4, SOMETHING. YEAH. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO GET SOME INPUT FROM, FROM VICKY. OKAY. AND THEN WITH JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN, HE'S, HE'S IN CHARGE OF THE COLLECTIONS. OKAY. HE'S OUR COUNTY TREASURER. HIS OFFICE . YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO OKAY. YES, I BUDGET OFFICER, I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED THIS YEAR. I THINK I WAS BE HERE THAT DAY. I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED HERE. THERE'S A COUNTY SOMEWHERE WHERE COURT COORDINATORS JUST DID WHATEVER. YEAH. I WAS SURPRISED THAT EVERYBODY ELSE THEY DO WHAT? I THINK THAT OTHER WAS OUT DESPERATION. YEAH. SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE. NOTHING BEING DONE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP DURING BUDGET OF TIME, WHICH WHEN OF Y'ALL COMING IN AND I'VE ALREADY SEEN EVERYBODY EXCEPT THE SHERIFF AND, AND I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT HIM BECAUSE, UH, SHERIFF AND I HAD A LONG BRIEFING. GOOD. LOOKS LIKE ON MY CALENDAR WE START, UH, FRIDAY, THURSDAY. THURSDAY, THURSDAY. THURSDAY. WE START THIS THURSDAY DON'T WE? THURSDAY. ALRIGHT. LIKE I SAID, THAT FIRST DAY WOULD BE PRIMARILY SOME, UH, PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME OUT OF THIS YEAR IN BUDGET. AND UH, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS IS MORE MONEY IN ROAD BRIDGE AND THEY'D LIKE TO SAY THAT. SO THAT'S GONNA BE ONE I'D LIKE TO BRING MY, UH, NEW POLICY. UH, I RECOMMENDED POLICY THAT YOU AND I, WELL I GUESS THAT'S IT. WHAT TIME WE COME IN? I JUST HAVE NINE 30. YEAH, WE, SHE'LL TELL YOU WHEN TO DO THAT. SHE'LL TELL YOU TO DO. [01:30:01] OKAY, WELL I'LL SEE YOU GUYS BACK IN HERE THURSDAY MORNING ABOUT NINE 30 THEN. YES MA'AM. I NEED MOTIONS TO PAY THE BILLS SO MAY 2ND. SECOND. THANK YOU THIRD. AYE I'M OVER. BE ADJOURN SECOND. IS THAT THE NEXT ONE YOU NEEDED? HAVE JERRY WRITING ON FIRST AND I CAN'T GET A SECOND MR. SECONDED. AND I THINK ALL ARE IN FAVOR, THAT MOTION CARRIES TOO. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION. WELL, IT WOULD'VE BEEN OKAY UNTIL YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BALL THIS MORNING. I MADE THAT MOTION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.