* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER BROWN, ACCEPT THIS MORNING, PLEASE. I SURE WILL. WAYNE, UH, JUDGE . SENATOR, PRAY. MS. GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK THEY FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT THEY HELP US STOWED UPON US THIS YEAR. UH, PLEASE LOOK UPON UPON US WITH FAVOR AS WE, UH, GO ABOUT DOING THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY TODAY AND GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING TO MAKE GREAT DECISIONS. PLEASE, UH, HELP OUR SOLDIERS AS THE, THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY THROUGHOUT THE WORLD FOR US AND BRING THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. UH, THANKFULLY FOR THIS, UH, UH, POSSIBILITY OF SOME LIFE-GIVING BRAIN, UH, UNLESS WE ASK IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. IGI TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION ON GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE TO ALL HONOR, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER AND ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. YOU CAME CLOSE. OKAY. NOTHING ROUTINE. NOW, MR. RICHARD MURPHY, ARE YOU HERE THIS MORNING? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. MR. MURPHY'S GONNA PRESENT TO US THE TAX ASSESSOR DIRECTOR UP WITH FOR JUNE OF OH EIGHT. SURE. YOU DON'T WANNA DO THE MINUTES FIRST? WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO THE MINUTES FIRST. , SEE IF YOU SEE THEY'VE ALREADY SEE I PASSED THEM AROUND BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY COULD REVIEW 'EM AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE OKAY. SO NOW I DIDN'T PAY A MOTION TO APPROVAL. MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GALL. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. MOTION CARRIED THE LORD. THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO SIGN ON HERE. THAT'S WHY . OKAY. NOW, MR. MURPHY. OKAY. IN SPITE, YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT YOUR, OH, OKAY, GO AHEAD. WHAT? NO, IN SPITE OF ALL THE NATIVE ECONOMIC NEWS WE'VE BEEN GETTING, COPLAND COUNTY TAXPAYERS ARE HANGING IN THERE. WE HAVE THROUGH JUNE THE HIGHEST PERCENT OF COLLECTION IN OUR MODERN HISTORY. REALLY? I'M VERY PLEASED TO REPORT THAT. THAT SOUNDS GREAT TO ME. IT IS SURPRISING BECAUSE ALL YOU HEAR ABOUT IS MORTGAGES AND MORTGAGE. THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR TAXES COME FROM. SO DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO ALL THE GOOD WORK THE COMMISSIONERS ARE DOING? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. PLUS WE'VE GOT A FEW PARTS IN THE TAX DEPARTMENT THAT ARE REALLY DOING GOOD TOO. SO, ANY RATE, THAT'S GREAT. WE COLLECTED 26 AND, WELL, 26.154 MILLION AND THAT LEAVES 5% TO GO AND THE ROAD BRIDGE IS 3.6 MILLION. AND AGAIN, 5% TO GO. GOOD. GREAT. QUESTIONS. WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THAT COURT ATE. COMMISSIONER REV MAKES THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER DELLER SECONDS IT ALL IN . MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU, DICK. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A THUMBS UP TO ALL YOUR DEPARTMENT. I'LL NOW, MR. HOWELL JONES IS GONNA PRESENT US THE REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OKAY. THERE IT IS, GUYS. UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT. COMMISSIONER ER WILL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. AND THAT'LL BE ON MY DESK THIS WEEK. IF COME BY AND LOOK AT IT, SEE HOW THE FUNDS ARE. WE WANT TO DISCUSS INSTEAD APPOINTING THE JUDGES AND ULTIMATE JUDGES FOR ALL THROUGH JUNE, 2009. I, UH, SUPPOSE Y'ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. SHANE WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE LIST AS PRESENTED TO US. SECOND COMMISSIONER ROW WILL SECOND IT. QUESTION, QUESTION. [00:05:01] IF THERE'S NOBODY ON THE LIST, WHAT DOES THAT MAKE MEAN? NOBODY FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT VOTING PRECINCT. RIGHT. THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANYBODY WILLING TO DO IT. EITHER THAT OR THEY'VE CONSOLIDATED THAT WITH ANOTHER, GOT A FEW DAYS TO THE ONE THAT LEFT. MIKE. IS THE PERSON CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THAT DICK? UH, WE GOT A COUPLE OF VOTING PRECINCTS THAT DON'T HAVE ANYBODY YET. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT GIMME TWO MINUTES AND I'LL BE BACK WITH IT. OKAY. THERE'S GEORGE, GEORGE, THESE, THESE, THESE LISTS, COUNTY CHAIRS AND GIVE IT TO JANELLA THERE, I BELIEVE. AND SHE JUST PUTS ON THERE WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TRUE, WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED. BUT IF WE DON'T APPROVE SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA NOVEMBER, HAVE THE COURT. I, I THINK JUDGE, BUT I THINK THAT VICKY, CAN I SPEAK JUDGE? YES. MR. BAKER AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS. HE'S GOTTEN A LETTER FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAYING THAT THEY MUST MAKE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO FIND PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE BOXES TO ACTUALLY BE THE JUDGE. AND THAT'S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY BLANKS ON IT. HE HAS ENOUGH NAMES TO FILL THE BLANKS, BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE BOXES. AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN ENJOINED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO MAKE THE EFFORT TO THE LAST DISH MOMENT, TO FIND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE BOXES, SERVE IN THOSE BOXES. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FILL EACH SLOT BEFORE THEY'LL GET THERE. BUT TO THAT POINT, AT THIS MOMENT THOUGH, THAT'S THE LIST THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DICK? UH, IS THAT SAME THING YOU FOUND OUT? WELL, WE'RE RESEARCHING IT, BUT THAT'S NOT VERY LOGICAL. NO. THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS. ACTUALLY, THEY HAVE NAMES, BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GO IN THE BOXES, SO, OKAY. NO BOX WILL BE ON BILL IN NOVEMBER. WE'LL PUT IT. OKAY. AND THIS IS THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S DECISION? SECRETARY OF STATE LETTER FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE DIRECTLY. IS THIS SOMETHING NEW, SIR? IS THIS NEW? DO YOU KNOW? YEAH, IT JUST DID OUT TWO WEEKS AGO. OKAY. YEAH, I MEAN THEY, THEY, IT WAS FROM A LAWYER FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, AND BILL HAD CALLED ME AND SAID, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND I SAID, WELL, THERE'S DO HAVE TO DO WHAT THEY SAY. AND SO HE ACTUALLY HAD THE NAME FOR BOX 40. THAT, THAT THE MAN, THE GENTLEMAN ACTUALLY LIVES IN BOX 40, BUT IT WAS TOO LATE TO GET IT OFF THE LIST FOR THIS MORNING. SO HE SEND, JAM A LETTER ABOUT IT IN A LITTLE BIT, AND I THINK PRIOR TO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, HE'LL SEND A LIST, AN AMENDED LIST IN, RIGHT, EXACTLY RIGHT. THIS IS JUST ALL HE COULD SUBMIT TO YOU RIGHT NOW, LEGALLY GIVE YOU, RIGHT. OKAY. UH, MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. AND SECOND IS ANY MORE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, MOTION CARRIED. WHO MADE THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER ROUND. I SECOND IT. UH, NEXT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OF ENTERING INTO AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY OF DALLAS. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? JACK? UH, THERE CONTRACTS THAT, UH, UH, MR. PARK WOULD LIKE TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF AND, UH, I THOUGHT I HAD DONE ONE IN THE PAST, BUT, UH, COULD I FIND HAD DONE ONE? IS THIS, IS THIS A GENERAL COVER ALL? YES, SIR. I, I, IT APPEARED THAT WAY, RIGHT? IT WOULD COVER ANYTHING. DALLAS COUNTY DOES, [00:10:01] PARTICULARLY ON MATERIAL PAVING. GOOD. AND I GUESS COMMISSIONER WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL SECOND. AND COMMISSIONER SHANE WILL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIED. NEXT WE WANT TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AWARD BID NUMBER 0 8 0 5 ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR SIGNED MATERIAL FOR ALL PRECINCTS. YES, SIR. UH, HOPE GENTLEMEN HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT. I KNOW I'VE GOT YOU LATE LAST WEEK. UH, GIVE A LITTLE TIME TO EVALUATE THIS. UH, WE HAVE THAT UNDER, IN THREE CATEGORIES. UH, CATEGORY ONE BEING, UH, UH, SIGNS, FACES, AND, AND THE, AND THE, THE METAL AS WELL. AND, AND MATERIAL. AND THEN, UH, FOR, UH, CATEGORY TWO BEING REFLECTIVE ROLL SHEET MATERIAL. AND THEN, UH, CATEGORY THREE BEING JUST THE SIGNED FACES. UH, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD, BUT TO THE LOW OF EACH CATEGORY. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR CATEGORY ONE, CPC, WHICH IS CUSTOM PRODUCTS CORPORATION OUT OF JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI. AND THEN CATEGORY TWO, UH, TO THE SIGNED LADY, UH, MCKINNEY, TEXAS AND CATEGORY THREE TO, UH, BOOK SIGNS OUT. FOLEY, ALABAMA. YOU HAVE ONE? I THINK THERE'S ONE ON THERE. ONE HIGHLIGHT. PAGE TWO. YES, SIR. UH, THERE'S ONLY FROM HALL SIGNS. YOU GOT ONE HIGHLIGHTED. WELL, WHAT I DID THERE DIDN'T MEAN CONFUS YOU THERE. WHAT I DID WAS I ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED THE, UH, ACTUAL LOW BID FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL ITEM. THEN I HIGHLIGHTED THE TOTAL. UH, SO YOU SEE THE, THE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED BY FOR ALL SIGNS AND OTHERS THAT'S, THEY WERE LOW ON THAT ONE ITEM. UH, TRYING TO GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF THE NUMBERS THERE. I THINK IT WAS SPLIT THAT UP BY AISLE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS. IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU GO BY THE TOTAL, THAT'S REALLY MISLEADING BECAUSE IF YOU GO BY THE TOTAL, SOME DIDN'T BID IN, SO THEY, THE TOTAL IS 26,000. AND ONES THAT LIKE S-S-N-S-A-S-O, THEIR, THEIR TOTAL WAS 89,000. THEY'VE BID EVERYTHING. SO THAT TOTAL IS REALLY MISLEADING. WELL, ON CATEGORY ONE, UH, CCPC, THEY ACTUALLY, THEY ACTUALLY DID BID BID EVERY ITEM UHHUH AND, UH, YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT, DON'T BID. BUT, UH, CPC BID WAS A LOW BIDDER AND THEY ALSO BID ALL ITEMS. ARE WE STILL GONNA DO THIS THROUGH DANIEL? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT ALSO WHILE WE'RE ON, ON THE SUBJECT. I THINK IN THE BUDGET, UH, THERE'S A LINE ITEM FOR SIGNS. WRECK AMOUNT DOLLARS PROBABLY IN THE PAST HAS BEEN MAYBE ONE OR TWO FREE PRECINCTS GET SIGNED. THE NEXT GUY COMES TO GET SIGNED AND ALL THE MONEY GONE, UH, THAT GET BROKE UP FREE GETS CERTAIN AMOUNT JUST ON THAT OUT THERE. IT'S HAPPENED IN PAST, UH, COME BACK TO HIS QUESTION THOUGH. WELL, DOES THIS ORDER THE MATERIALS AND THEN LET DANNY DO, DO THE SIGNS OR IS THIS ORDERING THE SIGNS COMPLETE? WELL, WE HAVE, I DON'T TAKE JOBS. CATEGORY ONE IS, IS A TURNKEY. IT'S, IT'S THE, UH, ALUMINUM SIGN BLANKS WITH THE FACES ON. AND THEN CATEGORY THREE THERE IS JUST THE FACES. COMMISSIONER WANTED THAT ON THERE SO THEY COULD LET HER AND SLAP A, A SIGN MATERIAL ON, ON THE SIGN WE USE WHEN THEY, THE FACE LIKE A STOP SIGN, THEY'LL GO UP AND WRITE SOME LONGER OR SOMETHING ON THERE. MM-HMM. WE HAVE PLASTIC VINYL THAT WE JUST PEEL OFF, LET ANOTHER STEPS COVER ON. IT'S A LOT CHEAPER AND QUICKER. UH, AND TALK, TALK TO KATHY. SHE MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THEM TO STOCK THE BASIC SIGNS AND MAYBE, MAYBE THE PRECINCT ORDER SPECIAL SIGNS ON THEIR OWN. I DUNNO, YOU HAVE WORKSHOP POSSIBLY ON THAT? WELL, UH, THE ONLY REASON I'M CONCERNED IS I GOT A LOT MORE ROAD SIGNS THAN AVERAGE. LET'S HAVE A WORKSHOP. SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. THE MOST EFFICIENT, INEXPENSIVE WAY TO DO IT. EXCUSE ME. IT'S A LOT QUICKER NOW WHEN YOU CALL OUT THERE AND DANNY JUST MAKES UP THE SIGNS THAT BRINGS IT TO YOU AND YOU PUT 'EM TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. IT'S A LOT FASTER THAN IT USED TO BE WHEN HE HAD TO PUT 'EM TOGETHER. SO, UH, THAT WORKS FINE FOR US. [00:15:01] AND, AND THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO, IF IT'S A STANDARD SIGN, YOU KNOW, COUNTY ROAD, WHATEVER, WHERE THEY CAN MAKE THEM UP, I THINK ON STOP SIGN AND YIELD SIGN A CURB SIGN. THEY ONLY KEEP A MINIMUM AND STOP. WE, WE DO THE ADDRESS THAT WE DON'T KEEP ANY STREET SIGNS, BUT WE DO KEEP STOP SIGNS. SPEED LIMIT SIGNS. YEAH, BECAUSE THEY DISAPPEAR. YEAH, THEY DO. WE HAVE A BUNCH OF STREET SIGNS I GUESS WE ARE ON, BUT EVERY TIME I NEED ONE IT'S NOT THE ONE WE NEED. SURE. WE GET NEW ONES. BUT THE OTHER ISSUE I CAN VISIT BILL TEXT OUT ABOUT US, UH, HELP WITH PUTTING UP SIGNS ON, ON THE ROAD AND SAY COUNTY ROAD SUCH SUCH AS YOU TRAVEL DOWN ONE MARKETS OR ON THE, THE HIGHWAYS THAT THE, THEY'RE OVER RESEARCHING RIGHT NOW TO WHAT KIND OF WE TALKED ABOUT WORKING. YEAH, WE DO HAVE THEM ON 1 75. YES. AND I'VE BEEN HAVING, YOU KNOW, TAN MALL IN 3 0 1 IS BECAUSE MOST TIMES SHERIFF OVERRUN IT OR IF THEY GET A NEW YARD, WHATEVER THEY OVERSHOOT, RETURN DRIVE 3 0 1. THAT'S BIG ISSUE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SO ANYWAY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER, THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY SEE WHAT THEY COME UP FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS HELP US CONSIDER SIGN WOULD BE OUT ON THE ROAD. I THINK RATHER THAN HAVING A WORKSHOP ON THIS SIGN DEAL, I THINK IT EACH ONE OF YOU JUST VISIT WITH JACK AND TELL JACK YOUR PREFERENCE. DOES HE HAS TIME. UH, THAT SUITS ME BECAUSE JACK NEEDS TO CORRELATE WHAT DANNY DOES WITH WHAT WE'RE APPRO HERE. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. I LIKE THAT. AND JUDGE, I I CAN ISSUE A BLANKET PO THAT'S MATTER WHO CALLS AGAIN. SO WE'LL GET TOGETHER IF YOU WANT THEM TO STOCK THE STANDARD SIGN ORDER ON YOUR OWN, THE OTHERS. BUT I'LL DO THAT. I I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH DANNY. DANNY. YEAH. THAT SEEMS TO TO BE THE SIMPLEST FOR US. EITHER MAKE IT OR GET THE, GET THE MATERIAL. UH, MY, MY CONTENTION IS ONE POINT OF CONTACT. I DON'T NEED TO, THAT'S LIKE YOU, I DON'T WANT CALL ALL FOUR OF THESE PEOPLE. I'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHO, WHO, WHO I GET WHAT AND WHERE DANNY KNOWS THIS, IF I WERE A STOP SIGN, HE KNOWS WHERE TO GO. UH, IN DANNY'S OFFICE IS IN REAL CLOSE APPROXIMATION TO I WOULD RATHER CALL HIM IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. THAT'S I'M PROCESS ALL MY I SIGNS. SIGNS. AND WE'VE ONLY GOT DOES SHANE, WE'LL START BIDDING HERE. NOW LET'S REMEMBER THAT SIGN MONEY. WE CAN, WE CAN SPLIT IT UP IF Y'ALL, I MEAN Y'ALL CAN SPLIT IT UP AND PUT IT AT EACH PRECINCT. LEAST SOME IN GENERAL. WE'VE GOT IT. WE'VE GOT IT ALL IN GENERAL OVER THE BRIDGE. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD COME OUT OF. WELL I AGREE, BUT THERE'S A PROBLEM. HE JUST FOUR SIGNS AND THEN YOU NEED ONE. I THERE WE'RE GONNA BE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE UNDER A MANDATE TO REPLACE OUR SIGNS AS YOU REFLECTING MATERIAL BY SUCH AND SUCH A DATE. YEAH, WE'RE DOING THAT NOW. WE'RE WORKING ON OUR, SO ALL THEM GONNA BE, BECAUSE THE TEXT I TAKEN ALL THERE THEIR DOWN AND THEY'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THEY'RE NOT WON. PASS THAT REFLECTIVE CLAIM. AND SO SOMEBODY RUNS TO A STOP SIGN, THERE GONNA BE SOME LIABILITY INVOLVED THAT YOU DIDN'T TAKE THEM. TAKE THEM. WE'LL GET THAT. PUT ONE ON THERE IS REFLECTIVE. YES. IT IT, IT'S A SIDE PLACE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT YET THEY SIGN IT, PUT THAT ITEM ON THERE AND DO IT. THAT'S EASY. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING AND THAT IS, YOU'LL KNOW ON TOP DELIVERY TIME, UH, CPC DELIVER TIME IS 30 TO 45 DAYS, UH, WHERE, UH, ANOTHER VENDOR IS SEVEN TO 14 DAYS. UH, [00:20:01] WE JUST NEED TO CONSIDER THAT. UH, I THINK THESE ARE ALL ORDERS FOR INVENTORY. SO THAT I WISH THAT HAD BEEN A PROBLEM. UH, THERE'S ABOUT A 35% SAVINGS BY GOING TO THE LOW BID. AND WELL, I'D RECOMMEND THEN IF WE DO WHAT JACK SAYS AND AWARD TO SIGN CONTRACTS TO THE GOLD PITTER IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES AND UH, THEN CONTINUE WORKING INDIVIDUALLY. COMMISSIONERS WITH JACK AND WITH DANNY. YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH, I MAKE THAT MOTION. MR. SHANE WILL SECOND IT. I THINK. I THINK WE'RE 25 OR 30. STOP. YEAH. DANNY CAN STOP THEM. DANNY, STOP SOMETHING. NOT MUCH. AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE, UM, WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE FOR, UH, ONE BARN TO UH, KEEP THOSE BECAUSE THERE COULD BE A LOADING, UNLOADING PROBLEM AT SOUTH CADILLAC, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT. RIGHT. AND SO WHEN YOU GET A BIG ORDER, IT'S A PROBLEM. GET GUN UNLOADING. HAVE A PLACE TO STORM. ACTUALLY WE DO. WE PROBABLY DO. YEAH. THE GUYS, WHAT'S THAT? THE GUY WITH THE NEWEST BARN. WE HAVE TO KEEP SIGNS. I'M WORKING ON THAT DESIGN. THE SPACE FORM PERSON MIGHT BE GREAT IF YOU DANNY, YOU GO THERE. YEAH. THE REASON I ASK JERRY IS BECAUSE YEAH, WE'VE GOT A CENTRAL, CENTRAL LOCATION. WE, WE WE'VE GOT ROOM FOR 'EM. THAT'D BE GREAT. WE HAVE TO SIGN FOR EM. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? AYE, THERE'LL BE 15 BUCKS A PIECE ON IF THERE THAT MOTION CARRIED. NOW WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADVERTISING IN A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR REPORTING IMAGING AND INDEXING SYSTEM FOR COUNTY CLERK. YOU KNOW, I WAS AT A MEETING ONE TIME AND I WAS GIVING A SPEECH AND I SAW THAT WORD, NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE AND IT CALLED ME OFF GUARD AND I SAID, IMAGINING MACHINE . IMAGINE THAT. LUCKILY EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THOUGHT I WAS MAKING A JOKE. SO DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE HAVE THEM ING MACHINE. WHAT DID YOU SAY, JACK? JUDGE, UH, THAT PORTION OF THE CONTRACT WITH LAURA NEEDS TO, TO GET WORKING. UH, YOU MAKE AN ANSWERING QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, UH, ON THAT I WOULD PROPOSE, UH, CLOSING DOWN ON FRIDAY, AUGUST THE 22ND. DOES LAURA HAVE MONEY IN HER BUDGET FOR THIS? YEAH, SHE GOT THAT SPECIAL FUND. LET ANYBODY CLOSING DOWN PLAN, UH, FRIDAY, AUGUST 22ND AND DID OPENING THAT WILL BE A, WE'LL, WE'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THE R FP ON THAT DATE AND THEN TAKE DOWN REVIEW ON. YES SIR. OKAY. THERE WILL BE, UH, COMMITTEE. WELL, OKAY, COMMISSIONER SHANE SAID HE'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. MR. WILL ALL IN COURTESY. AYE. A MOTION CARRIED. NEXT ONE DISCUSSED. CONSIDER PROVEN BID FOR RESALE OF TAX PROPERTY AND CAUSE. NUMBER 67 6 0 6 DASH 86 TRACK TWO DESCRIBED AS LOT THREE B LOCK 28 ORIGINAL IN PRECINCT NUMBER THREE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECOND, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN DISCUSSION, UH, PROPERTY VALUE OF 29 AND THEY'RE PAYING 58. ARE THEY GOING TO PAY THE BACK THREE, AREN'T THEY? YOU HAVE SOME COMPETITION THERE. SAY THAT AGAIN? ARE THEY, IS THERE, IS THERE, UH, IS THERE BACK TAXES? ARE THEY GONNA PAY THE BACK? I THINK THAT'S REQUIRING, ISN'T IT? AND OBVIOUSLY THAT THE, THE VALUE IS PROBABLY LESS THAN 29. I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT THAT 29 IS NOT A LOT. THAT'S A LOT WITH THAT HOUSE THAT THEY IN. ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S [00:25:01] ANYTHING ON IT EXCEPT FOR SOME CHUNKS OF CONCRETE. YEAH, WELL THEY SAID IT SAYS RIGHT HERE THAT THE, UH, THE CORNER LOT HAS NOW HAD THE CONDEMNED HOUSE REMOVED. WELL, I THINK IT HAS BEEN. YEAH. THE PROPERTY VALUE 29 WITHOUT THE HOUSE, CORRECT? HUH? SAID THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS RIGHT HERE. THERE'S THREE BIDS. I MEAN BID 3000. ABOUT 3000. OKAY. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE PAYING THEM BECAUSE THE AMOUNT DUE AT SALE IS 58 SO THAT THEY, THEY'RE ACTUALLY, UH, IF THE 3000 BID GOES THROUGH, THEY ARE PAYING THE TAXES. THE COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER S SECONDED A MORE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY, NOW WE WANT DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE QUARTERLY REPORT FROM CAROL CHARLES HALSTEAD LIBRARY IN COLMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE. AND WE HAVE MS. BECKY SULLIVAN WITH US THIS MORNING TO PRESENT THAT REPORT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? FINE. I, UH, HOPE THAT YOU SAW THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS THIS MORNING. I SAW THAT. IF NOT, YES, I DID. I THOUGHT THEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF COMPLYING WITH MY REQUEST TO PUBLISH THIS TODAY. . PERFECT TIMING. ABSOLUTELY. UM, THEY FOR, THAT'S RIGHT. UM, DID EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR COPY WITH THEM? YES. OKAY, GOOD. UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ADD TO THE REPORT SINCE I PRODUCED THIS MEMORANDUM. UM, WE HAVE HAD 15 OF OUR STUDENTS AND TWO PAIR AND THEY HAVE MEETING. SO THAT AND RAPIDLY, AND THAT IS AN LITERACY PROJECT CALLED QUEENS. ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT, UM, JUNE WAS PROBABLY THE BUSIEST MONTH WE HAVE EVER HAD. WE HAD ONE WEEK WHERE WE HAD OVER 10,000 PEOPLE AND THAT IS THE RECORD POLICY. SO DOES ANYONE ANY QUESTIONS? CAN I HAVE, UH, NIGHT PROGRAMS? UM, Y'ALL LEAVE THE LIBRARY OPEN ON CERTAIN NIGHTS FOR LACK OF BILINGUAL PROGRAMS? ACTUALLY, UH, DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR WE HAVE ENGLISH'S SECOND LANGUAGE CLASSES AFTER HOURS ON WEDNESDAYS AND THURSDAYS. GOOD. WE'RE OPEN UNTIL EIGHT O'CLOCK ON MONDAY AND TUESDAYS ANYWAY AND UNTIL SIX O'CLOCK ON WEDNESDAYS AND THURSDAYS. BUT AFTER HOURS WE, WE CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM TO DO THE CLASSES WHEN THE LIBRARY IS OPEN BECAUSE THERE'S NO SPACE. UH, SO WE HOLD THOSE CLASSES AFTER HOURS ON TEENTH AND UNIVERSITY. DO Y'ALL WORK WITH TRINITY VALLEY ON THOSE NIGHT COURSES? YES. THEY PROVIDE, WE COLLABORATE WITH YOU. THEY PROVIDE, UH, THE INSTRUCTORS. WE PROVIDE A VOLUNTEER INSTRUCTOR, THE SPACE, SOME OF THE MATERIALS AND THE FRIENDS AT THE LIBRARY PROVIDE CHILDCARE FOR THE PARTICIPANTS. DO YOU EVER DO SPANISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE? NO, WE DON'T. BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WINGS IS LOOKING AT DOING. UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE GET VERY HIGH DEMAND FOR PEOPLE. WE'RE CONSTANTLY ASKING FOR SPANISH CLASSES AND OF COURSE WE DO HAVE TAPES AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT THEY GO OUT AND NEVER COME BACK. UM, SO WE ARE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT AS PART OF THIS. WE PROJECT SPACE IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ISSUES. IT IS VERY LIMITED. THAT'S WHY WE DO THESE, THESE UH, SUMMER READING, UH, PERFORMANCES AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOWN THE WAY WE HAVE THIS YEAR. WE'VE HAD OVER 200 PEOPLE, UH, AT ALMOST ALL OF THOSE PERFORMANCES AND THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD FIT THOSE. UM, BY THE WAY, THAT DOES DOUBLE WHAT WE HAD LAST. THAT KIND OF BACKS UP WHAT THE MORNING NEWS WAS SAYING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BECOME TO FAMILIES WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO DO OTHER THINGS. YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT MOSTLY TO JUST THE INCREASE IN POPULATION? UH, ACTUALLY I THINK THAT LAST YEAR WAS ONE OF THE FIRST YEARS WE DID THESE APPLIANCES AT KENNEDY AND I THINK THE WORD KIND OF GOT OUT. UM, [00:30:01] THAT, THAT WE WERE DOING THAT AND THEN THERE WAS MORE ROOM WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO HOLD EVERYTHING IN THE LIBRARY ROOM. WE MIGHT HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE SHOW UP, BUT WE COULDN'T GET A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AND SO WE WERE TURNING PEOPLE AWAY. UM, NOW THAT WE'RE HAVING THEM AT KENNEDY PEOPLE, PLENTY OF ROOM. SO PEOPLE COME. THAT'S GREAT. I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT. YEAH. I LIKE YOUR REPORT BECAUSE I THINK IT REALLY OVERVIEW OF WHAT COUNTY AND I SURE APPRECIATE THE JOB Y'ALL DO. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. UH, MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU MS. SULLIVAN. YES. UH, NOW WE'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER CHANGING OR DISCONTINUED COLLECTION OF OPTIONAL LOCAL FEES IN ADDITION TO THE VEHICLE REGISTRATION FOR THE COUNTY YEAR 2009. UM, EACH YEAR WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GONNA KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, ADD OR CHANGE OR BACK OFF. BUT I THINK WE'RE AT THE MAXIMUM. I DON'T THINK WE HIGHER WHAT WE BUT UH, UH, THE OPTIMAL FEE NOT TO EXCEED $10 CORRECTIONAL VEHICLE IN THE COUNTY. WE'RE ALREADY THERE. I'M NOT SURE IF WE DO THE CHILD SAFETY FEE, WHICH IS A DOLLAR AND A HALF. GEORGE, SIR, WOULD YOU DO ME A BIG FAVOR AND THIS WHOLE COURT A BIG FAVOR AND WALK DOWN AND ASK IF WE CHARGE THAT DOLLAR AND A HALF FOR THE CHILD'S SAFETY FEE? DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW? I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER VOTED TO DO THAT BEFORE 1150. THERE'S ONE BORDER. DICK. THANK YOU. UH, QUESTION. UH, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THE COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE FEE. UH, QUESTION I HAVE IS, I KNOW WE DO THE $10, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT, BUT THERE'S AN OPTION OF A DOLLAR AND A HALF FOR THE CHILD SAFETY FEE AND I CAN'T REMEMBER US EVER PASSING A RESOLUTION TO DO THAT. WE NEVER HAVE. NEVER HAVE. OKAY. YEAH, WE NEVER COLLECTED IT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED TO KNOW. OKAY. WOULD Y'ALL RECOMMEND THAT WE MIGHT DO THAT OR YOU GOTTA EITHER RECOMMENDATION ON THAT MATTER? WELL, SINCE WE'VE NEVER DONE IT, I HAD IT UP TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU WOULD GET PER DOLLAR 50. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BUT THAT WOULD BE A DESIGNATED RIGHT FEE DESIGNATED FUND GO TO I PERSONALLY NUMBER GREAT ONE. WELL, THE COMMISSIONER JUST INFORMED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COUNTIES THAT DO THE 1150 THAT YES, THEY DO. WHAT DOES IT DO? IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO TO HELP THE, UH, SCHOOL ZONE MARKERS AND PUT, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL ZONES, DON'T SPEED AND FINES DOUBLE. AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR WIFE AND KIDS IF YOU SPEED THROUGH HERE AND ALL OF THAT . OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU'ALL THERE. OH, ONE MORE QUESTION THERE. I'M SORRY. HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD IT BE TO GET GEARED UP TO START CHARGING THAT IF COMMISSIONERS DECIDED THEY WANTED TO DO IT ONCE YOU MAKE THE DECISION? WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO GET THE INFORMATION TO THE STATE AND THEN THEY CAN GET IT PUT ONTO OUR REGISTRATION RENEWALS. OKAY. THE STATE WOULD ALL HAVE DO THAT WHEN THEY SEND BACK. RIGHT. ONCE YOU SEND IT BACK TO THE, THEY WILL GET IT APPLIED TO OUR REGISTRATION RENEWALS AND THEN IT'LL START GOING OUT TO THE PEOPLE AS JUST A FEE. OKAY. NOW I'M SURE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, AT LEAST GOING THROUGH MY MIND, I THINK MAYBE EVERYBODY ELSE, DOES THE COUNTY KEEP ANY PART OF THAT? SEE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU. I, WE'VE DONE IT TO KNOW WHETHER WE GET, YOU KNOW, SUCH A PERCENTAGE OF THAT. I'M SURE WE WOULD. OKAY. I JUST DUNNO WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS AT THIS TIME. YEAH. COULD YOU DO A BIG FAVOR BETWEEN NOW AND TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY? FIND THAT OUT FOR YES, I CAN. I'LL HAVE IT FOR YOU PROBABLY BY THE END OF THE DAY. ALRIGHT, GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU DICK. YES, SIR. SEE, WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION BY SEPTEMBER 1ST. SEPTEMBER 1ST. [00:35:01] OKAY, SO IF WE DO IT TWO WEEKS, GIVE TIME. SO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT IT. UH, JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW MUCH THE COUNTY. 48. SO PUT UP. YEAH, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TABLE. GET THAT INFORMATION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. MOTION CARRIED. NEXT WE WANT TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING PAYMENT FOR BROKER REPAIRS. NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT. I HAVE A VENTURE TO SAY IT MUST BE IN THE COMMISSIONER CLARK'S PRECINCT. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. . GOODNESS GRACIOUS. I HAVE TO SECOND GOOD TO THERE. FINISH UP ALL THAT. WELL, I GUESS FOR THE NEWSPAPER, SINCE IT'S PUBLIC RECORD, UH, INVOICE FOR REPAIRS A BETTER VIEW ROAD AND UNIVERSITY. UH, THEY GOING TO GIVE US ALL OF THAT. THAT'S WHAT YOUR INVOICE IS. I'VE ALREADY GOT IT. IT'S ALREADY DONE. THERE'S A CHECK. I JUST LIKE TO CHECK. LEMME TURN THIS PAGE. YOU DID THAT FOR RAY HUBBARD. , HOW LONG THE AMOUNT IS $250,000. THEY DESTROYED, UH, ROAD OPEN PRECINCT TWO AND THEY LAID THEIR PIPELINE. WAS THAT ALL TO MOVE THAT, UH, REFURBISHED WATER? I I CAN DO A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAT. . OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CHECK OUT. NOW WE WANNA DISCUSS ACCEPTING ANOTHER DONATION, BUT THIS IS MOTION TO BE BACK. MR. DO? I'LL BACK HIM UP. COMMISSIONER CLARK? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES. UH, DISCUSSION. SET RESOLUTION AGAINST THE APP. THE BOARD PROPOSED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. LOOKING FOR A SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. ANY DISCUSSION NOW WHAT THIS IS, UH, THE BOARD AND WE HAVE, UH, PASSED THE, THE APPRAISAL BOARD HAVE PASSED A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE ONE MORE BOARD MEMBER ON THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF APPRAISAL DISTRICT. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS DILUTES OUR, THE ONE COUNTY VOTE WE HAVE ON THE BOARD. AND, UH, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK THE MORE YOU GET ON THE BOARD, THE MORE EACH INDIVIDUAL ENTITY'S, UH, INFLUENCE IS DILUTED. DOES THIS MAKE IT AN EVEN NUMBER AND MAKE IT HARDER TO UH, IF THEY DO WHAT THEY, IF THEY GET THEIR WAY, YES. IT'D MAKE IT AN EVEN NUMBER. GOOD. I THOUGHT I SAY TALKED TO JOHNNY AND DES AND THEY WERE, UH, ALL SUPPORTED THIS AT ONE TIME. I THINK THEY STILL ARE. THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. UH, AGREE THAT YOU BOARD COULD CREATE, BE THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING, ALLOWING ANOTHER PERSON FROM PONY ON THAT BOARD BUT HAD ANOTHER PERSON FROM KAMAN COUNTY ON THAT BOARD TO MAKE A NINE MEMBER BOARD. SO KAMAN COUNTY HAD TWO REPRESENTATIVES. WOULD THAT SOLVE THE PROBLEM? THAT WOULD SOLVE ONE OF MY OBJECTIONS TO IT WAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW IF WE DO GET THE NUMBER OF UHS OR DISAGREEMENTS? THEY LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING ABOUT REDOING IT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF ITEMS WAS REALLY TERRA 40 COUNTY HAVE OFF BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE OF US, WE'LL REDO THE WHOLE THING HAS TO BE DONE BY IN THE YEARS. BUT I WAS JUST, I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF, [00:40:01] OF THE COUNTY'S VOTE ON THAT BOARD BEING TED. OF COURSE YOU ARE. AND I I DIDN'T WANT THE OF THEM TAKING AWAY THAT TIRE FROM YOU. UH, WE PUT IN THE BIGGEST PERCENTAGE. SEE THAT? THAT GOOD? YEAH. WE PUT IN, WE, WE FUND THAT MORE THAN ANY. AND I THINK IT'S BEEN WORKING GREAT. WELL, I STILL HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THEY'RE NOT BEING ANY CONTROL OVER, PARTICULARLY IN THE BUDGET AREA, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PERSONAL. IS THERE ANY REASON WE CAN'T DO IT THE WAY WE CAN'T DO IT? HUH? WE CAN'T DO IT. THEY CAN DO IT, BUT WE CAN'T. WE CAN, WE CAN OBJECT TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND THEN LIKE JOHNNY SAID, IF THEY GET ENOUGH OBJECTIONS FROM THE MEMBERS, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING. BUT IF THEY WERE TO DECIDE TO ADD TWO MEMBERS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE AND THAT ONE ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS BEING ANOTHER COUNTY REP, THEN IT COULD BE DONE THAT WAY. I DUNNO WHO, WHO ALL WOULD OBJECT TO THAT? I WOULDN'T OBJECT TO THAT. I DON'T THINK COURT. SO WITH US GOING BACK AGAINST IT, WELL THEN THEY COULD REGROUP AND REORGANIZE AND SAY, OKAY, Y'ALL HAVE TWO BOOKS. THEY COME BACK TO US. WAS THAT, WAS THAT A POSSIBILITY, JOHNNY? YEAH. IF IT'S ENOUGH, SAY ONE AGAIN. YEAH, WE, IF ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL SAY NO AND I WOULD THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE ASKING, I THINK SAID WE ASKED THE ENTITIES TO MAKE THEIR SUGGESTIONS TOO. AMY'S ON THE BOARD NOW. FIVE. FIVE GOT SEVEN ON THERE. SEVEN MORE WOULD MAKE SIX. TWO MORE. MAKE SIX. IT HAD CHANGED SINCE 83. I GUESS SIX. WERE THINKING ABOUT ONE MORE. WHO YOU GOT ON THERE NOW? SEVEN. YOU GOT SEVEN ON NOW? YEAH. MOST MOST COUNTIES AND MOST OF THEM IN THE STATE HAVE FIVE. YEAH, FIVE. AND IF THEY WERE TO GO WITHOUT THIS PROPOSAL, THEN THERE WOULD BE NINE BOARD MEMBERS THAT THE COUNTY WOULD'VE TWO FULL VOTES ON IT. GET THAT MANY ON THERE THOUGH. DOESN'T THAT MAKE IT CUMBERSOME? HANDLE ANY BUSINESS IF YOU GOT NINE PEOPLE ON THERE? YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE THING. YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THAT. I MEAN, SHALL TO SAY NO EXCEPT RIGHT. WELL WE CAN MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION AND IF THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S AND MR. MURPHY'S ON THE BOARD ALSO, BUT HE'S A NON-VOTING MEMBER. YEAH. HE COULD MAKE MOTIONS. YEAH. AND GO BACK TO, THANK YOU JOHN. SO THE MOTION, WHO MADE THAT MOTION OUT HERE, WOULD YOU, UH, GO ALONG WITH HIS RECOMMENDATION THEN MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REJECT THEIR CURRENT PROPOSAL TO ADD ONE AND, UH, AND, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TWO, ONE BEING A ADDITIONAL, AN ADDITIONAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD. YES. WHOEVER. NO. CAN YOU PUT THAT MOTION TOGETHER, SO WE REMEMBER WHAT WE SAID. MOTION TO REJECT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL THAT THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS MADE AND RECOMMEND TO 'EM THAT THEY ADD TWO MEMBERS INSTEAD OF ONE MEMBER AND ONE OF THOSE NEW MEMBERS. BE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COUNCIL. COMMISSIONER SHANE WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. JURY. AND JERRY, WOULD YOU SECOND THAT MOTION WITH THAT ADDITION? I'LL . I JUST THINK NINE IS, IT'S CUMBERSOME BIG FOR ME, BUT I, AND, AND LIKE JOHNNY SAID, THEY MAY, I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. IF THEY, IF THEY LIKE IT, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. WELL, BUT THEY MAY LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE TO GO THE OTHER WAY TO GO DOWN INSTEAD OF US, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME TOO. YEAH. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE THAT BETTER. BUT, UH, GO BACK TO FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE STILL GONNA DO OUR ORIGINAL LEAVE. YEAH. IT'S JUST THAT WE, BUT WE OBJECT TO WHAT WE OBJECT TO THEM HAVING JUST ONE MOTION. [00:45:02] ANY MORE DISCUSSION? MR. COURT SECOND THAT ONE. SAY THAT AGAIN. MR. CLARK SECONDED. OKAY, JERRY WITHDREW. JUST SECOND. HE MAY VOTE FOR IT, BUT HE ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. A MOTION CARRIED YES ON THAT DOLLAR AND HALF. A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT GOES TO THE COUNTY. A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT STAYS IN THE COUNTY. YES SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE A LIMITATION ON WHAT YOU COULD USE THAT FOR? BE CHILD SAFETY? CHILD SAFETY, CHILD CHILD SAFETY? IT COULD BE, IT WOULD HELP A WHOLE, I COULD PATCH SOME HOLES. ROAD CHILDREN, ALL YOU HAVE SCHOOL BUSES TO GO ACROSS THE ROAD? OH YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU DICK. YES, SIR. OKAY, LET'S, UH, LET'S GO ON AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT, THAT, BUT THE MOTION CARRIES ON, UH, THAT APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, DISCUSS CONSIDERED ATTORNEY OWNERSHIP OF AUSTIN LANE AND ASHLEY GROVE, UH, PFT BUSINESS PARK BACK TO OWNER ABOUT, UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. WE ACCEPTED THESE ROADS AFTER THE TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD, BUT THEY'RE CONCRETE ROAD. THE PROBLEM BEING IS THAT IT'S ALL TRUCK TRAFFIC COMING OFF 1 75 AND CARS COME DOWN AND IT'S DANGEROUS, REAL DANGEROUS BECAUSE THE TRUCK'S BACKING IN IN THE BUSINESS PART. AND, UH, THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE CONTROL ON WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS ON THE ROAD. AND, UH, I TOLD HIM MAKE A PHONE REQUEST AND I'LL BRING IT TO THE COURT, UH, AND THEN I'LL GIVE IT TO JOHN LONG AND ASK HIM TO HELP US OUT. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I, WE'VE NEVER HAD ANYBODY SAY, I WANT MY ROAD BACK. YEAH, I THINK PROBABLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ANY CLOSING, JUST LIKE POSTING AND THAT YEAH. AND GIVE THAT TO JOHN AND HE REALIZES WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANY MAINTENANCE ON OH, YES. YES. ALRIGHT. AND THEN I THINK I, I THINK WE CAN DO AN ORDER, UH, TO FULFILL THAT REQUEST TO RETURN THAT OWNERSHIP AND REQUEST THAT, UH, OUR LEGAL ADVISOR START THAT PROCESS THAT IS LEGALLY NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THAT. OKAY. ONCE IT MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I WAS STUCK. PARDON? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? NO, I FORGOT WHAT I SAID. ? NO, IT'S, UH, MOTION TO, UH, RETURN AUSTIN LANE AND ASHLEY LANE ROAD OF THE TFT BUSINESS PARK IN PRECINCT FOUR BACK TO THE OWNER AND REQUEST OUR LEGAL ADVISOR TO BEGIN THE PROCESS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. OKAY. NEXT WE WANT TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SELLING USED EQUIPMENT AT DELTA AUCTIONS ON JULY 24TH. YES. THE ADVENT OF CRUDE OIL GOING UP TO 140 SOMETHING DOLLARS JUST PREVENTS US FROM DOING ANY ROAD WORK WITH CRUDE OIL. I HAVE A TANKER TRUCK THAT, UH, IT SAYS OF NO USE AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT TO DELTA AUCTIONS. AND I ALSO HAVE A, AN OLD PICKUP THAT I'D LIKE TO TAKE TO DELTA AUCTIONS, UH, ON THE 24TH FOR SALE. UH, JUST I'VE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO DO THROUGH THE AUCTION, BUT I JUST WANTED, I KNOW RAY CLARK MAY WANT A, A BIG OIL TANKER SPENT BY TWO 50. UH, BUT IT, THEY'RE JUST OF NO USE AND I'M SURE THEY'D BE NO USE COMMISSIONER. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP. ANYBODY WAS INTERESTED IN IT. IS THAT 5,000 GALLONS OR? YEAH. USED TO USE IT A LOT WHEN CRUDE OIL WAS 25, $30. YEAH, I THINK IT WENT DOWN TO 1 28. YEAH. CHANGED MY MIND. UH, WHAT A BARGAIN. WELL, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. YES. HAVE YOU AND JACK TALKED ABOUT THIS OR WHAT, WHAT'S HIS THOUGHT? I'M NOT, I'M NOT SELLING THEM THROUGH RENEE BASE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. YEAH. SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION THEN. IF NOBODY'S INTERESTED IN THESE TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. [00:50:01] I MAKE THE MOTION TO BOXES. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ROWDY. ALL IN FAVOR A MOTION. CARRIE? UH, NOW WE'LL DISCUSS THE DEPORTATION OF JUSTIN P. LEWIS FOR THE TON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTIONS, UH, IMPORT AND CABLE ON COUNTY ROAD 1 0 7. PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. LET'S NOT DO THAT, JUDGE. OKAY, JURY. IT'S OKAY. HIM AND COMMISSIONER SHANE WILL SECOND IT. MOTION CARRIED. Y'ALL NEED TO A BREAK BEFORE WE PAY THE BILLS. GO BACK AND DISCUSS SOMETHING HERE. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK. UH, GOTTA DO THAT BEFORE WE ASK FOR THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER TOO. ALRIGHT, LET'S GO BACK UP. UH, AN ITEM THAT WAS TABLED EARLIER AND UH, I'D REQUEST A MOTION TO UN TABLE THAT ITEM. . MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION. THEY SECOND IT BY COMMISSIONER. THAT MOTION CARRIES. SO WE'RE TAKING THAT OFF THE TABLE NOW AS LAURA, THOSE, HER HANDS UP LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, SHE SAID THE WORLD IS Y WELL, I I WANTED TO GRAB IT. I THINK I JUST, IT WELL, WE'RE ALWAYS FAVOR. OKAY. YOU READY TO ROLL? I'LL BE ALRIGHT. Y'ALL HEARD WHAT UH, MR. MURPHY'S REPORT WAS THAT IF WE DO THE DOLLAR AND A HALF FOR THE CHILD SAFETY, THEN THAT MONEY WILL STAY IN THE COUNTY. MAKE TOTAL FEES. 1150. 1150 INSTEAD OF 10. JUST PLAIN. OKAY. THE PROPER, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, FEE, NOT LESS THAN 50 CENTS A VEHICLE IN THE COUNTY. THIS FEE IS USED FOR PROVIDING SCHOOL CROSSING GUARD SERVICES WITH REMAINING MONEY USED FOR PROGRAMS TO ENHANCE CHILD SAFETY, HEALTH OR NUTRITION, INCLUDING CHILD ABUSE INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION OF DRUG ALCOHOL ABUSE. UH, SO SOME OF THAT MONEY COULD GO TO THE NEW, UH, CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER. OKAY, WE WANT TO SEE YOU. ANYBODY YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA? UH, YEAH, I LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S ALRIGHT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW. YEAH. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. DISCUSSION. WE'RE GONNA RETAIN THE, UH, THE $10. THE ORIGINAL. THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL 10. WELL I GUESS WE'LL PUT THAT IN OUR MOTION. YES. I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE RETAIN THE, YOU WANT ADD, RETAIN AND IT HAS THE ONE 50 CHILD SAFETY. ALRIGHT, THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER SECONDED. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL I HAVE THE INFORMATION ON WHERE THE MONEY GOES. [00:55:01] OKAY. , WE GETS RIGHT OFF TIME. MINUTE A MINUTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. UH, THE COUNTY CAN KEEP NOT MORE THAN 10% OF THE REVENUE AS ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. THE COUNTY MAY ALSO DEDUCT FROM THE FEE REVENUE AND AMOUNT PROPORTIONATE TO THE PERCENTAGE OF COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS IN THE COUNTY. AFTER WHICH THE REMAINDER IS ALLOCATED TO THE VARIOUS CITIES BY POPULATION, VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES BY POPULATION. THERE'S A COPY OF THE LAW OR WHATEVER IT'S SO MOST JUDGES HAVE TO CITIES. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? WELL, WE CAN RETAIN 10% FOR ADMINISTRATION PLUS THE POPULATION PERCENTAGE IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS. RIGHT. THEN YOU ALLOCATE TO THE INCORPORATED CITIES BASED ON THE POPULATION. 276, POPULATION 56 OR WHATEVER. 202 AND TWO SQUARE MILES. THAT'S WHERE IT STARTED. THAT'LL WORK. THAT'LL WORK. IT'S NOT . WE GET THE DEDUCTIVE. I I PASSED. THIS IS A ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE BY THE WAY. I JUST PASSED IT JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION. OH, I SAW THAT. UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, THE CITY OF CAMP. THIS, THIS IS A, UH, LETTER OF INTENT. AND SO WHEN WE COME INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, GOING LONG DIRECTION. OH MAN. TIMING? YES SIR. IT'S GETTING TO BE THAT TIME OF YEAR. WE HAVE A LOT OF BEHIND YOU ALLOW. I JUST READ THE ONE OVER THOUSAND HONOR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE EDUCATION CONFERENCES. 2000 WITH REDUCTION TO INDEX GENERAL GOVERNMENT INCREASED OUTSIDE 27,000 COMMUNICATIONS. 1530 REDUCTION COURT. 30 CAPITAL MURDER COSTS 27,000 IN REFUND COSTS. 22ND. DISTRICT COURT INCREASE EXTRA HELP. 1500 BOOKS. MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. INCREASED POSTAGE METER RENTAL. THOUSAND UTILITIES. 8,000 LAWN CARE. 3000 EQUIPMENT REPAIRS. 500 GUARD TO PICK UP 800 WITH PRODUCTION TO EXTRA HELP OF 13,300 JAIL FUND. INCREASED LAWN MAINTENANCE. 2000 WITH PRODUCTION TO COPIER COSTS. THE EXTENSION SERVICE. INCREASED AGENTS OUT OF COUNTY TRAVEL. $2,722. PRODUCTION AND EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASE REPAIRS TO COME TO, UH, COUNTY PROPERTY. 10,000 AND AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING 5,000 FOR PRODUCTION OF PURCHASE PROPERTY. IN TRANSFERS, WE'VE INCREASED THE TRANSFER OF GENERAL ROAD GENERAL, UH, OF MONEY. 40,000 REDUCTION OF HEALTH TRANSFERS. CHILD SHELTER AREA, INCREASED GROCERIES, 2000 AND GAS AND OIL IN 2000 WITH REDUCTION OF PART-TIME YOUTH WORKERS GROVE BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE, INCREASED GAS AND OIL. 10,000 EQUIPMENT RENTAL. 3000 ANNUAL CLEAN COSTS 2000 IN PRODUCTION OF ROAD MATERIALS. 10,000 IN CONTRACT LABOR FINE BRIDGE PRECINCT TWO, INCREASED GAS OIL, 45 FEES. ROB BRIDGE PRECINCT. THREE. INCREASED EQUIPMENT RENTAL, 5,000 WITH ION OF LABOR. UM, COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS AREA OF THE, UH, PROBATION. INCREASED UBSTANCE ABUSE. ABUSE COSTS 25,500. THE PRODUCTION TO SUPPLIES AND OPERATING EXPENSES. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, RECOGNIZING ADDITIONAL REVENUES IN ROAD, WHICH PRECINCT TWO THAT Y'ALL JUST ACCEPTED AND NOT ROAD INSURANCE. AND Y'ALL HAVE HEARD THE NINE ITEM TRANSFER AND COMMISSIONER TO MAKE A MOTION TO [01:00:01] APPROVE THOSE. OH YEAH, PLEASE SECOND MR. SH. SECOND. MORE DISCUSSION. ALL MOTION TO CARRY STILL ON FOR 30, RIGHT? YES. [01:05:37] WHERE BUT HE MANY WE SHAPE A AND WHEN HE TOOK OFF, HE HEADED DOWN BECAUSE THE, AND I MEAN MONTH SIX POUNDS OR SO. I'VE LOST ENOUGH. THAT'S, THAT'S HOW MUCH DOES THEY USED TO STUDY AGO? POUNDS. NAME IS YOU'RE CALLING TO SUPPORT THE 89 OR SO. 1995 OR SOMETHING. TELL HIM I'LL BE IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, HUH? OH, THAT'S RIGHT. [01:11:36] HOW ABOUT YOUR OTHER PATIENT? OH, SHE'S DOING GOOD. I GUESS THEY DID A JOB STILL. I DIDN'T ASK THEM TO, BUT I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT SUSCEPTIBLE. THERE'S ONLY THREE. I DIDN'T WIFE [01:15:03] IT'S ALWAYS WISE. GO. WE GET TWO BRIDGES BUILT ARE, AND I KNOW IF SHE HAS ANY HISTORY OR BEEN INVOLVED IN ANYTHING, WHAT USED BUT STILL GET FROM THERE. HERE BRIDGE TEX WANTS TO REBUILD. THAT'S A HISTORICAL BRIDGE THEY USED THAT YEARS AGO. T IT COMES TO DO THEY JUST NEED, SO GOING AGAINST THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO THE ROADS BEING USED. BRIDGE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THREE. YES. SOME KIND OF A AND HE STILL OVER YET? WHERE? OH YEAH, THERE. SO SAID WELL, YOU KNOW, GOT THE HISTORICAL OFFICE THERE. INFORMATION, INFORMATION, DIESEL, CONVERTING NEW NATURAL GAS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY DISPLAYS IN THAT. UH, CONVERTING TO THE LOW SULFUR DIESEL Y MACHINES ARE OLD CRACK AT SOME POINT IN TIME YOU GONNA HAVE TO FIND BRAND NEW MACHINES AND REDO WHATEVER, SIX MONTHS AGO. PAPERWORK. [01:20:03] SO MANY HOURS OR SO. IT'S ALL TOO MANY TOLD ME THAT I GET PROBABLY 12. THAT PROGRAM REPLACE NEW ONE. SO I'VE BEEN TRYING REAL HARD TO GET THAT. NO, NO S WELL THERE'S 70 STUDENTS IN RESOLUTION AND DO ALING SO YOU CAN'T DO WHEN YOU GET OUT AND GO INTO THE STORE OR GET OUT AND UH, HE SAID 25 DEGREES BELOW. UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER THAT AIR THEY CAN TAKE, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU. JOHN. YOU KNOW THIS COUNTY LINE I TALKED TO RICHARD HUN TOLD HIM ABOUT THE, I GAVE HIM THE FIELD NOTES. I GAVE HIM THE DRAWING. GOT IT. OKAY. I'LL TALK, I'LL LOOK IT OVER TO YOU. YEAH, I MEAN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THE FIRST PART, YOU KNOW WHERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAID ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS HAVE RICHARD SEND US THE OVERLAY SO THAT WE CAN CALCULATE THIS LITTLE PIECE. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO RICHARD SINCE I CAME BACK. SAID THE BEST THING WHERE THEY ASKED THE OTHER DAY, WHERE IS HE GONNA YEAH, BUT I SAID THAT AND THEY SAID WHAT STATEMENT [01:25:01] AT THE SHERIFF. OKAY. I, YOU KNOW, DO PREFERRED I DIDN'T SAY HI. NEXT MONDAY, UH, MY WIFE AND HER SISTER AND HER HUSBAND AND I ARE GONNA BE IN THE HILL COUNTRY GOING TO NEW MEXICO TO, SO WE DECIDED TO GO DOWN TO THE HILL COUNTRY TO THEIR PLACE AT DRIP. HMM. GRAND AREA? NO DRIP SPRINGS. OH, THAT'S OUTSIDE WEST BOSTON ACRES AND A DOWN BEDROOM MANY YEARS AGO. ANYWAY, SO THE ONLY ITEM THAT HAS COME UP IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU, SO WE CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS KNOW. MIGHT BE FOR NEXT. WE WON'T MEET NEXT MONDAY. NEXT. GOOD FOR ME. WHEN IS THAT? NEXT MONDAY. THE 28TH. 28TH. OKAY. NO, NO MEETING ON THE 28TH. THAT'S NOT GOOD. GONNA SOME TOMATOES SHE MADE AS GREAT AS SHE MAKE A HOUSE DELIVERED. DID YOU WANT GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION ON, UH, COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT? NO. BARBARA, IF YOU, SHE CALL US. I MEAN, I GOT IT ALL [01:30:01] UP ON THE SATELLITE. WHAT'S THAT? SATELLITE JUDGE. I'LL AGREE WITH IT. IF IT'D BE GOOD ON THE EASTERN SIDE. YEAH. NOT GOOD. IT DOESN'T WORK. ANYTHING ELSE GUYS? MOSTLY MADE BACK MICHIGAN TO ADJOURN AND SECONDED BY. GET A SECOND. YEAH. SECOND. HE WAS AFRAID SOMEBODY WASN'T GONNA DO IT. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ALL MOTION CARRIES AND. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.