* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER YOU WANTED TO HEAR, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY THAT THAT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE CRITICAL, UM, PIECE OF INFORMATION AS I MOVE ALONG AND WORK WITH COUNTY. SO THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT I MORE CALLS, MORE EMAILS, MORE, UH, MORE BUGGING ON MY PART. YEAH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE HOLD UP ON OUR, ON A LOT OF OUR DECISIONS BECAUSE, UH, OUR PERSONALLY, JACK SEBASTIAN HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET THESE TIRE RECYCLING PEOPLE TO GIVE HIM A CALL SO THAT WE CAN SEE IF THEY'D LIKE TO BID ON JUST HAULING THESE TIRES INSTEAD OF HAULING THEM TO THEIR RECYCLE LOCATION TO HAUL EM TO YOUR, UH, FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY. ANYBODY ELSE? I GOT A QUESTION. WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH SELLING IT TO, UH, CONTRACTORS? 'CAUSE I COULD SEE THIS BEING A REALLY NEAT SITUATION FOR THE CONTRACTORS USE ON SLOPES, ON ROADS, BACKFIELDS ON DIFFERENT DITCHES IN THE CITIES. I THINK, UH, YOU GET THE WORD OUT AND SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO USE THIS PRODUCT. I COULD SEE THAT IT WOULD BE A EASY ONE THAT YOU COULD SELL AFTER YOU BAIL IT. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE HOLDING ON TO ANYTHING. I THINK MORE THAN TDO WILL BE INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING. OKAY. I THINK YOU GET OUT INTO THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND THE CONTRACTORS AND SHOW 'EM WHAT IT'LL DO. AND I THINK YOU'RE WAY AHEAD ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. UH, SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE, SOME OF THE VENDORS THAT I'VE TALKED TO WHO ACTUALLY, UM, UH, DO BAILING, YOU KNOW, THEY, THE REASON THEY GOT INTO IT IS FOR VARIOUS REASONS. THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY, UM, UH, CONTRACTORS. THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY TRANSPORTATION WORLD. UM, ONE, ONE INDIVIDUAL OWNS A, UM, SHOOTING RANGE OBJECTIONS. HE USES THESE BAS, UM, ON HIS RANGE. PERFECT FOR, I'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF OTHER EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE BUILDING FENCES AND WALLS AND THINGS WITH TOO. I JUST THINK HE PURSUED ALL THE OPTIONS. I THINK THERE'S LOTS OUT IN THE INDUSTRY THAT, UH, WHICH THIS IS THROUGH TCQ, SO THEY HAVE TO DEAL ABLE TO T STOP. WELL, I TDOT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOT THE MACHINE RIGHT? WELL, NO, TDOT IS NOT ACTUALLY THE BALER THEY HAVE AGREED TO. UM, I, I, I THINK ESSENTIALLY TTO IS THE LOW HANGING FRUIT IN, IN THIS EFFORT. THEY SAY WE, WE CAN PROVIDE A LOCATION AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THE BALES. AND I THINK FOR THE PILOT PROJECT, UM, IN DEVELOPING THAT SCOPE, I THINK THAT WAS, THOSE, THOSE, THOSE, THOSE ANSWERS WERE, WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD. UM, CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF LONG-TERM FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS, UM, YOU KNOW, MARKET VALUE WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ABSOLUTELY. POSSIBILITIES HERE WITH SOMETHING THAT'LL REALLY WORK. RIGHT. YOU SOLVE THE PROBLEM TOO FOR EVERYBODY. BUT THE THUMB JUST GOES THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF OH NINE, I BELIEVE. UM, OUR, OUR SCOPE, UM, SAYS JANUARY, END OF JANUARY WE'D HAVE THIS THING WRAPPED UP. BUT, UM, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF FLEXIBILITY 'CAUSE OF, UM, EVERYBODY HAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SCHEDULE AND, AND COLLECTION TIMEFRAME THAT THEY NEED TO BE WORKING WITH. SO, UM, IN TALKS WITH CO UH, THEY'VE TOLD US, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE GRANT DEADLINE PROBABLY EXTENDS MORE LIKE INTO MAY OF OH NINE. SO WE REALLY, I I THINK THE, THE REAL BOTTOM LINE WOULD BE MORE LIKE MAY VERSUS OUR ORIGINAL ANTICIPATED DATE OF JANUARY. ARE ALL THE RW BECKS FEES TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH THE BRAND? YES. NO COST TO THE COUNTY. YOUR COST WOULD BE, UH, COLLECTING AND TRANSPORTING. PROCESSING IS COMPLETELY COVERED. UM, ANY SERVICES, UH, RW PERFORMS COMPLETELY COVERED. ARE WE REQUIRED TO FURNISH 4,000 TIRES? THAT THAT'S AN ESTIMATE. THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE. HE'S NOT GONNA HOLD YOUR FEET, I'M SURE, BUT I'M SURE JERRY CAN MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. I'M LOOKING AT, AT THE COST OF TRANSPORTING THOSE TIRES. SO WHAT IF, WHAT IF OUR BID COMES IN THE FIRST PHASE, WE GET RID OF CHEAPER THAN WE COULD THROUGH THIS PROGRAM? WELL, IT'D BE A BETTER RECYCLING THING. YEAH. I DUNNO HOW THEY BE CHEAPER, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT IT WOULD. BUT I, I SPOKE TO ONE, ONE VENDOR, UM, AND THE QUOTE HE GAVE ME WAS, I THINK $2 25 CENTS PER MILE FOR A TRAILER OF APPROXIMATELY 800 TIRES. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT NUMBER WORKS OUT [00:05:01] TO BE, BUT IT'S CENTS. THAT'S ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT. THEY'RE CHARGING US 1600 BUCKS TO HAUL 'EM OFF. NOW. PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT SAME AMOUNT. JUST GOING FORT WORTH. OURS IS GONNA FORT WORTH TWO AND A HALF A MILE. HOW FAR IS IT FORT WORTH? 68 MILES. WHERE YOU COMING FROM? THAT'S ONLY 40. WHAT THAT'S FOR AND THAT BE ABOUT 800 TIRES IS THE TRAILER SIZE. HE WAS ON 48. FOR TIRE, WE NORMALLY GET ABOUT 800 ON A 52 FOOT TRAILER. WE GET ABOUT BETWEEN 1,011 HUNDRED DEPENDING ON HOW WELL YOU'RE STACKING THE SIZE OF THE TIRE. WE ABOUT NOW WE'RE PAYING ABOUT 1100 EACH TRAILER FOR TRANSPORTATION AND DISPOSAL. CORRECT. MY MY GUESS IS IT WOULD, TRANSPORTATION ALONE WOULD BE HALF OR LESS THAT OH SURE. BUT THE LABOR MACHINE WOULD BE HERE IN TON COUNTY? NOT NECESSARILY. NOT NECESSARILY. OKAY. UM, AND I, AND UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT AND THE, THE STAGE THAT WE'RE IN, THERE'S, THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS. UM, WE, WE'VE GOT COUNTIES, UM, FROM SOMERVILLE TO KAUFMAN, SO WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY LARGE AREA THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH. UM, CERTAINLY THERE'LL BE AT LEAST ONE FAILING LOCATION. IDEALLY IT WILL BE CENTRALLY LOCATED. UM, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD HAVE TWO LOCATIONS, SO PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE ONE TO FACILITATE MORE OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE, THE METROPLEX. AND ONE MORE ON THE EAST SIDE. UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY I THINK IN THE PILOT PROJECT AND WORKING WITH, UH, WITH COUNTIES AND WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE AND THEIR TIMEFRAMES ARE. UM, WE CAN, WITH THE ALLOTTED BUDGET WE'VE GOT, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN. UM, THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS OR THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THINGS SET IN STONE TO, TO YOU. WE WOULD PICK UP THE TIRES, COLLECT THE TIRES, TAKE 'EM TO WHEREVER THE BAILING LOCATION WAS, CAN AVAIL AND THEN MOVE 'EM TO WHEREVER. T NOT SET WE COULD STORE 'EM. IS THAT NO, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DROP OFF YOUR TIRES AT THAT DETERMINE PREDETERMINED LOCATION, YOU WERE DONE. UNLESS, UNLESS YOU WANTED TO USE THE BAILS, WHICH DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU, YOU THINK YOU HAVE A NEED FOR RIGHT NOW. BUT AS LONG AS WE GET AWARE, THE BAILER IS ABSOLUTELY, YOU GET TO THAT PROPERTY AND THEN IT WOULD BE DONE NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE COST HAULING SOMEWHERE CONSIDERATION. BUT THE STEADY WISE OF HAVING THE DROP OFF PLACE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY MAY NOT BE PRETTY GOOD. IF YOU GOT THE MOUNTAIN OF TIRES, WE READY TO BE RECYCLED OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, I THINK I'D RATHER PAY TO HAVE IT HAULED OVER TO AN AREA OVER, THERE'S AN AREA OVER THERE AFTER YOU LEAVE FOUR AND YOU GO IN TOWARDS VILLE PLACE DROPS OFF THERE, THERE'S NOTHING DOWN IN THAT LOWER PART. YOU CAN PUT EM ON THAT ROAD. COULDN'T THAT SOME OF THAT BANK STABILIZATION WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. I THINK THAT, UM, AS I RECALL, THERE IS A STIPULATION THAT WILL BE IN THE VENDOR SCOPE OF WORK, UH, CONTRACT. UM, THAT, UH, ONSITE STORAGE WILL BE LIMITED TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND TO BE DONE IN A CERTAIN MANNER. UM, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A, UH, THAT WE INTEND TO INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, UH, THEY HAVE UP TO PERHAPS 30 DAYS TO STORE ON SITE AND BEYOND THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT 'EM INTO SOME SORT OF, SO THEY WOULDN'T JUST BE LEFT OUT, UH, WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE ANOTHER DUMP SITE ESSENTIALLY WOULD TO AVOID THAT INSURANCE. SOUND LIKE GOOD WORK DIRECTIONS. YEAH, IT SOUNDED GOOD. SO ALL YOU NEED FROM US IS JUST A RESOLUTION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PILOT PROJECT. SIGNING THE MEMORANDUM OF, UH, UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE, UM, REALLY ALL WE NEED, UM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I THINK. I THINK THE REQUEST FOR THE AGENDA, GIVE EVERYBODY THE COPY OF THE MEMORANDUM. I, I JUST TOOK LIBERTY, PUT 4,000 ON THERE. UH, THIS IS IN ESSENCE DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE. I JUST A, I DUNNO, DO WE HAVE TIME FOR YOU TO GET, GET THIS INFORMATION TO US, UH, ON LOADING AND WE'LL HAVE, I SAY WE JACK JACK'S TRYING TO GET THE ANSWER ON THE HAULERS THAT YOU, THAT WE USE NOW. UH, THE WE WE WE DO NOT, IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO, WE'RE NOT ASKING THAT YOU SIGN THE DOCUMENT TODAY. UM, [00:10:02] IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, ABSOLUTELY, I WILL. I'LL FOLLOW UP, UM, AS QUICK AS I CAN AND, AND GET YOU TO A LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT YOU NEED TO BE TO, TO SIGN. UM, THE, THE QUICKER WE CAN GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD, WE CAN START WORKING OUT A LOT OF THE DETAILS. UM, BUT AS FAR AS ASKING YOU TO SIGN TODAY, THAT'S, YEAH. WELL THIS, THIS IS JUST THIS BEING A PILOT PROJECT. WHAT IS THE TIME LENGTH OF THIS MEUM UNDERSTANDING? I MEAN, WE GONNA DO IT FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF OLD DAY, HE SAID UP TO THE FIRST HALF OF NINE. I CAN, IF THAT'S A, A PIECE OF INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO IT, I CAN, I CAN REVISE YOU. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO GET THE CHANCE TO A COPY OF THIS. I'VE JUST SEEN, UH, WHAT'S IN THE FILE? THE, UH, THE TWO PAGE OR THE THREE PAGE. OKAY. YEAH. DID YOUR QUESTIONS GO DOWN NOW? I, I UH, I GET THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS. UH, IN MY OPINION, THE AGREEMENT IS JUST, YEAH, WE'LL PARTICIPATE. I JUST NEED TO KNOW SOME ANSWERS ON DELIVERY, UNLOAD, STUFF LIKE THAT COSTING THE TRAILER AND, AND, AND JACK'S WORKING ON IT. ACTUALLY, IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE US TOO MUCH AT ALL. YOU KNOW, CO COUNTY, WE TO DELIVER COLLECTED TIRES AS STATED BELOW AT A SUCH TIME AND IN SUCH A MANNER AGREED ON PARTIES. SO, I MEAN, MOST OF YOU MADE YOUR DECISIONS ARE STILL LEFT TO BE DECIDED. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S TRUE. AND I'M SURE IF WE'VE GOT 3,540 TIRES THERE, NOTHING THEY'RE GONNA DO TO US ABOUT IT. ABSOLUTELY NOT. UH, CERTAINLY THE GOAL ON EVERYBODY'S PART IS TO GET THESE TIRES OUT OF YOUR CREEKS. YEAH. UH, OFF THE ROAD AND SIDE OF THE ROADWAY. THOSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE AREAS, UM, AND, AND FIND A BENEFICIAL REUSE FOR THEM. THAT'S THE GOAL. THE GOAL ISN'T TO MEET A QUOTA IS TO, UM, THERE'S NO, I THINK IT'S EVEN TRYING TO HELP US WITH THAT. I THINK THAT'S, I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS GO AHEAD AND, AND PASS THE RESOLUTION TO PARTICIPATE AND THEN, UH, LET JOHN AND I SCRUTINIZE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M READING IT RIGHT, THAT NOT MUCH OF AN OBLIGATION THERE DECISION BE DOWN ROAD, DOWN THE ROAD. THAT'S BASICALLY, I MEAN THAT'S, I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, RIGHT. THE, THE WIND WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE, UH, DEPENDENT ON, ON YOUR, UH, YOUR NEEDS AVAILABILITY. THE WHERE WILL BE MORE ON, ON, ON, UH, MY SIDE TOO, TO GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED. ARE WE THE FIRST COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE WITH YOU ON THIS OR HAS OTHER COUNTIES ALREADY VOTED TO PARTICIPATE? THEY HAVE NOT YET. UM, I HAVE NOT. I HAVE NOT, UH, VISITED WITH THEM AS I'M DOING THIS MORNING YET. UM, WE'RE AT THE STAGE. I, I'M, I'VE BEEN CONTACTING AND TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION IN THE RIGHT PEOPLE'S HANDS AND TRYING TO GET FOLKS TO FORWARD ONTO THEIR, THEIR COMMISSIONERS AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, COFFMAN COUNTY BEING THE LEADER OF NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENT, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT COFFMAN COUNTY DOES AND I IMAGINE FOLLOW, I THINK WE'LL TAKE THE LEAD. I THINK SO. AND I THINK COMMISSIONER ER MADE THAT, UH, MAKE A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO PARTICIPATE. MAKE A MOTION TO PARTICIPATE. SECOND. MR. SHANE, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN SERVICE. AYE. A THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UH, YOUR INFORMATION'S IN THE FILE I'M SURE SOMEWHERE, ISN'T IT? UH, I CAN PROVIDE YOU A, A CARD OR, UM, YEAH, WHY DON'T LEMME HAVE A CARD TO ATTACH TO THIS AGREEMENT, OTHERWISE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO SEND IT. THANK YOU. THERE IS A, UH, THERE IS A, UH, FORM NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS CONSTANT GOVERNMENT COUNTY SURVEY. MARYLAND, MARYLAND, MAYES HAS, UH, AGREED TO TO SEND THIS TO THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. [00:15:03] CAN WE TAKE A VOTE? AYE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. MOVING ON. JACK WANTS US TO ADVERTISE FOR P GROUND. WHAT DO YOU, DID I SKIP THE, I HOPE IT BE EASY. I DIDN'T JUST SKIP. THAT WAS EASY. OKAY, LET'S TRY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A FIVE ACRE PIECE OF LAND THAT YOU DIVIDED INTO FOUR. I HAVE ALL THE TAX RECEIPTS AND HISTORICAL COMMISSION. KATHY IS FIRST ENDORSEMENT. WATER COMPANY. WATER COMPANY. YES. UM, AND HERE'S NEED THESE THREE. THEY DON'T MY LARGE, THIS IS ALL MY, THERE'S ONLY MY LARGE. I THINK WE NEED TWO OF THOSE. YOU GOT, I'LL GET, I'LL GET YOU ANOTHER, I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO THEN, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE'LL GIVE IT BACK TO YOU THEN AND LET YOU TAKE, TAKE IT OVER TO THE OFFICE AFTER ROAD. NO, IT FOUR 1.02 ACRE COUNTY ROAD. THEY GOT TELEPHONE SERVICE WHERE IT SAYS YEAH, RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD THERE IS A, A BIG COUNTRY. THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY THAT, YEAH. NINE. WHAT BRIDGE WAS THAT? 49. NO, AT, UH, 49 8. RIGHT OFF OF 1 48 COMING OUT. UH, WAR GOING TOWARDS JUST BEFORE THE BIG CURVE. YOU KNOW WHERE MURPHY LAKE IS? YEAH. JUST BACK THIS WAY. ABOUT A MILE. MILE. AND THAT'S WHERE IT GOES UP INTO THE BOTTOMS. IT DOES GO ON 98 DOWN. YEAH. YEAH. GO HAYFIELD. YEAH. WERE KEITH BAKER AND TRACY BATES PART OF IT. OKAY. AND YOU, THEY, UH, SO WE GO AHEAD AND PASS AN ORDER THAT FINAL FLAT AND JIM, YOU HOLD IT ON, HOLD IT IN YOUR POSSESSION UNTIL, AND UH, THEN THERE'S OTHER COPIES THEN, THEN AFTERWARDS YOU BRING BY THE OFFICE. NOW SIGNED. OKAY. SO COMMISSIONER WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL FLAT OF BREEZE. ADDITION. ADDITION [00:20:01] PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR. SECOND. COMMISSIONER BROWN WILL SECOND IT ALL IN COURTESY. AYE. I MOTION CARRIED. THAT'S PROBABLY MINOR JUDGE. JUST MADE AN EXCEPTION ON IT. DONE RIGHT? IT DONE. I TELL YOU, Y'ALL SAID IT. WE PUT IT OVER JUST LIKE IT, JUDGE. ITS A APPROVED, NOT ACCEPTED, RIGHT? RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH, IT IS APPROVED. NOT ACCEPTED, KATHY. THE WORDING IS APPROVED AND NOT ACCEPTED. SO ALL WE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE P GRAVE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT, UH, PRECINCT ONE AND MAYBE OTHER PRECINCTS ARE USING WHEN THE, UH, LIGHTWEIGHT AGGREGATE IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR TXI. AND MY ADVERTISEMENT DATES I WOULD RECOMMEND WOULD BE, UH, CLOSING ON SEPTEMBER, UH, THE FIFTH FRIDAY AND OPENING THOSE BIDS ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH. AND COMMISSIONER ROUND WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. WE'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. JUDGE COMMISSIONER WILL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, JACK. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT WE WANT DISCUSS SETTING A 35 MILE HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON TERRY D. LANE. GRIFFITH AVENUE MASTERS DRIVE, COLONIAL DRIVE, R FIVE DRIVE, CLEARVIEW DRIVE, SKYVIEW COURT, GRANDVIEW DRIVE, SKYVIEW LANE, AND CLEARVIEW COURT. NOW THAT MUST BE OVER IN PRECINCT TWO, AS IN PRECINCT TWO. AND THE, UH, THIS IS MY PRO FAULT OR PROBLEM. I DID THIS. WE WERE, WE ACCEPTED THESE GROVE COUNTY MAINTENANCE, BUT GRIFFITH AVENUE NEEDS TO HAVE MORE THAN A 35 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON IT. I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE, I'D JUST LIKE TO REMOVE THE GRIFFITH AVENUE PARK FROM THIS, FROM THIS MOTION AND SO THAT IT COULD BE UNIFORM OF WHAT THE CITY TURTLE HAS ON THEIR PART OF THAT ROAD, WHICH I, I THINK IS EITHER 45 OR 50. SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POST 35 CEILING ON ALL THESE ROADS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PROOF FIFTH AVENUE. ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES. UH, NEXT DISCUSSION. CONSIDER PROVEN ADOPTION OF TEXAS COMMISSIONER OF NEW QUALITY I'D. LIEN TO THE LIMITATION RULE, UM, HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE CLEAN AIR STEERING COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ABOUT THE POSITION THAT THE, UH, BIG TRUCKS AND UH, OTHER DIESEL EQUIPMENT YEAH. CAUSES BY LANDED ITEMS. YOU SEE TRUCK DRIVERS PULL UP, UH, I SEE, I SEE GUYS THAT DRIVE PICKUP, PULL UP AND WHILE THEY'RE FILLING THEIR PICKUP, THEY LET THEIR TANK ELECTRIC FUEL RUN. I ASKED A MECHANIC ONE TIME, I SAID, WHY DO PEOPLE THAT OWN DIESELS LET IT RUN? AND THEY PULL UP SOMEWHERE AND HE WAS A DECENT MECHANIC AND HE TOLD ME HE HAD NO EARTHLY IDEA. ALL IT DID IS JUST CAUSED WASTING FUEL. SO I NEVER DID LEAVE MINE DIESEL RUNNING. WHEN I GET OUTTA IT, I GOT OUTTA IT. I CAN GO A BLOCK AND I KEPT IT. SO ANYWAY, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE NORTH SOUTH TEXAS AREA ABOUT HOW MUCH POLLUTION IS CAUSING. UH, I SENT Y'ALL A COPY OF THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT AND ALL DISAGREEMENT SAYS IS THAT WE SUPPORT AND AGREE WITH THE, UH, UH, RECORDING THE GUIDELINES, UH, OF THE VEHICLE I IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. I MAKE THAT MOTION BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS GONNA, THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER. AND OUR COUNTY GUYS ARE GUILTY OF AS MUCH SO AS ANYBODY ELSE ABOUT LEAVING ALL PUTTING ISLAND. AT LEAST MY GUYS ARE ONES I SEE, [00:25:01] I KNOW TRUCK RUN ALL TIME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TRUCK DRIVERS SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY OFF. SO, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE FORCED IN DOING THIS. I'VE TALKED TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IT ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO. IT'S GONNA COME DOWN NOW, YOU KNOW, I GUESS LADDER SOONER GONNA COME DOWN TO, SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DEN. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A A MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, NEXT ONE. DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVEN NORTH TEXAS MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT WITH THE, WITH TCEQ FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENFORCING. THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DID. DID OF FIRST AND THEN THE OF WHAT YOU. ALRIGHT, THAT FIRST ONE, THEN WE ADOPTED IT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IT. AND COMMISSIONER CLARK, I ASSUME MAKE THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER SECOND THAT ONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. SO WE HAVE ENFORCE IT AND NOW WE CAN ENFORCE IT. YOU'RE GONNA RUN BY AND TURN THEIR KEYS OFF. UH, WELL NOW WE'LL DISCUSS CITY ACCEPTANCE, TEXAS DEPARTMENT HIGHWAY AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. MANY ORDER REGARDING STATE HIGHWAY 34. UH, I SENT Y'ALL A COPY OF THAT AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT UH, WE APPROVE WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON 34 OVER THERE IN AND THAT WE WILL PARTICIPATE IF ANY UP IN THE COUNTY. FEBRUARY OF 79. YOU KNOW, I SHOWED Y'ALL THAT PICTURE WHEN I WAS IN AUSTIN IN 78 WITH THE GROUP THAT ASKED THIS TO BE DONE. SO I GUESS YOU'LL MAKE THAT A MOTION. YES. OKAY. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. ALSO IN 78 OR 79, THERE'S A COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER AGREEING TO BUY THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR BYPASS AROUND AT THE SAME TIME. IT WAS PUT IN THE 20 YEAR PROJECT IN 79, ACTUALLY EIGHT, UH, GETTING LATER IN THE YEAR. AND I GUESS WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. YES, WE DO. THE SIGNIFICANT LINE ITEM TRANSFER. WE PROPOSED FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS EXPENSE 9,000, POSTAGE 9,000, COPY, 5,000 RETURN FEES. COURT COSTS 10,000 WITH PRODUCTION OF HEALTH INSURANCE. 23,000 CAPITAL MURDER COST OF 10,000. JUDICIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT INCREASE AUTOPSY POST BOARD COST 12,000 OF HEALTH INSURANCE, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. INCREASED UTILITIES, 30,000, UH, UTILITIES FOR THE LIBRARY. 1000, GARBAGE PICKUP, 3000 WITH PRODUCTION OF HEALTH INSURANCE. CONSTABLE PRECINCT. FOUR. INCREASED OFFICE FIRMS FROM EQUIPMENT $3,855 WITH A REDUCTION OF GAS AND OIL JAIL FUND. UH, SWITCHED BETWEEN OPEN POSITIONS AND SALARY FOR JAILERS OF 300,000, JUST FILLING SOME POSITIONS. UH, CHILD SHELTER AREA, INCREASED GROCERIES, 8,000 GAS AND OIL. 3000 HOUSEKEEPING SUPPLIES 1000 SHELTER UPKEEP 1000 WITH PRODUCTION TO, UH, PART-TIME YOUTH. FOUR YEAR COSTS. ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE. INCREASE GAS IN OIL. 8,000 IN MIDDLE OF EQUIPMENT 4,000 WITH REDUCTION OF ROAD MATERIALS. ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT TWO, INCREASE NEW EQUIPMENT, 20,000 WITH PRODUCTION ROAD MATERIALS. ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE, INCREASED GAS AND OIL. 20,000 RENTAL OF EQUIPMENT 5,000 WITH REDUCTION OF ROAD MATERIALS. ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT FOUR INCREASED UNIFORMS. 1000 WITH PRODUCTION OF CONTRACT LABOR. LABOR JUVENILE PROBATION. INCREASED OPERATING EXPENSES. 2000 WITH PRODUCTION OF TRANSPORTATION COSTS. SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION. INCREASED EXTRA HELP. $1,500 WITH PRODUCTION OF THE CITY OF TERRELL HAULING COSTS. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS IN THE FIRE CODE FUND CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUE [00:30:01] OF 18,489. BUDGETING FOR NEW EQUIPMENT AND IN THE LATE DAM MAINTENANCE FUND, UH, INCREASING, UH, THE ESTIMATED BALANCE OF 5,000 THROUGH AND BUDGETING THAT FOR REPAIRS. YOU GOT THAT, UH, DOWN BILL . WE DON'T TALK LIKE THAT IN. I'M GOING LET Y'ALL SEE THAT AND I'M LET THESE GUYS SEE. I WONDER IF Y'ALL SAW AN ARTICLE IN NATIONAL NEWS, I THINK IT WAS LAST SUNDAY, A WEEK AGO YESTERDAY, ABOUT THE WEAKNESS AND HOW ALL OF THE SOIL CONSERVATION DAMS ARE GETTING WEAKER AND, AND UH, MAINTENANCE TO BE DONE. THE COMING YEARS. THIS IS ACTUALLY THIS, NOT THE BEGINNING. THIS DUNNO. 26. SO LET THERE BE LIGHT WAS SO DARK HERE. WHERE IS THIS SITE? THOSE PARTICULAR TWO SITES? I'M NOT SURE WHERE THOSE PARTICULAR TWO ARE. WELL NEED ARE MORE DEVELOPERS LIKE OVER AT, UH, LAKE PRECINCT. BIG ONE SOUTH OF, UH, 20. WHAT IS THAT? HEARTLAND? HEARTLAND. HEARTLAND SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS ON THE DAM OVER THERE. SO WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE THAT. MONEY. I THINK THERE'S SHOULD BE, I'VE BEEN TOLD THERE SHOULD BE SOME LIABILITY ON THE WE SUBDIVISION BELOW GOOD IN THE FUTURE. THE COUNTY'S OBLIGATION. SO NOT EVEN WE CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A TERMINATION. THERE'S NOT A FLOOD HAZARD UPSTREAM BECAUSE WHAT WHAT FLOOD IS WHAT WILL FLOOD TODAY. AND THAT'S WHAT PROBLEM IS. A SUBDIVISION BECAUSE OF THE SUBDIVISION PRESSURE ON HOW WAS THAT BOX TRIP TO SOUTH DAKOTA? VERY GOOD SIR. WAS IT COMFORTABLE? YES. COULD BE. COULD BE AIR CONDITION. HAD THIS AIR CONDITION. BUT I CAN QUALIFY THE FIRST PART. I DON'T THINK I GO A THOUSAND MILES SEVERAL YEARS BECAUSE THIS BILL, [00:35:29] WE KNEW THAT THAT PROBABLY SAVED ME ABOUT 60 10 10. ONE OF THE UH, COST WHEN I TALK TO OTHER THREE DIFFERENT, AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT'S THAT PRETTY CLOSE THIS. YEAH, THIS, YOU'RE BOTH SIDE 10 EXCEPT THIS IS THIS REPAIR FOR THE PRINCIPAL. SAME SITE. IS THERE ANY OTHER DON'T WHEN Y'ALL HAVE A UH, NO A UH, OR COVER REFERENCE. WHAT THEY DID ON THIS PIPE, IT RUNS THROUGH THAT DAM. THEY USED SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT AND THEY PUSHED IT UP IN THERE AND WHERE IT AND THEY USED THE MACHINE. WISH HAD A NEW PIPE UP IN THERE THAT SLIP PACK, SLIP PACK, SLIP PACK. JUDGE, I UNDERSTAND WE DIDN'T, UH, APPROVE THE LINE ITEM. THANK YOU. ITEM. JIM SAYS WE CAN DO IT. KENNETH SAYS OKAY WITH HIM AND THE REST OF THEM, I, I SAY IT'S OKAY WITH HIM. THANK YOU. [00:40:11] YEAH. I 30 GALLONS [00:45:07] GUESS I, WHEN THEY SUGGESTING I'M NOT GONNA BE IN, I WAS GONNA CHECK MY CALENDAR. I HAVE IT WITH ME WHEN I GUESS CHUCK HAS LOST MY OFFICE DOWN CELL PHONE LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON. SO I THOUGHT IT'S ONE THINGS WHERE JUDGE, THAT'S OKAY. SEE, LAST I HEARD THEY DALLAS. I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT OUR PURPOSE WAS. WELL I TELL YOU THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS TO PUT US WITH REPRESENTATIVE. [00:50:09] HE SAID THAT THEY TO, YEAH. SO HE VOTED AGAINST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT, HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T, WASN'T THAT HE DIDN'T WANT ALL OF COLTON COUNTY TO BE BROUGHT IN. HE DIDN'T THINK COUNTY AND SPANISH BE BROUGHT. SO AFTER THAT SUBDIVISION, I MEAN THE SUB COMMITTEE THEN I GUESS THEY DECIDED TO OUT PUT US TOGETHER, PUTTING US TOGETHER. ME, BECAUSE HE, I HE'S ALREADY TED R AND THAT MAY VERY WELL BE TOO. EXCEPT THEIR, UNLESS, UNLESS WE CAN TELL BECAUSE WE A NON, IT'S LESS THAN SIX OF THESE OTHER CITY REPRESENTATION. IT HAS SOMETHING. DO DALLAS GOT TWO AND WHAT IS THAT? THE AIR FORCE SONG. I THINK HE'S WANTING TO TRY TO GET SOME MORE DEDICATED AREAS. THE ON THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S ONE THING. AND, AND THEY, I TALKED TO SOME PERSONALLY AND SHE WAS SAYING THAT HE, THE WHOLE COMMITTEE WOULD MORE THAN THIS, BUT HE'S, HE'S THINKING THAT HE MIGHT QUALIFY IF WE PUSHED IT, UH, QUALIFY FOR HE SAID WAS TRUE. THIS ONE? YEAH. I MEAN IT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE MEETING, LIKE I SAID ORIGINALLY WHEN, [00:55:08] WHAT DO WE, 24? YEAH. HIM? NO. DOES HE, THE JAIL WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BAD IF THEY RE I'LL BE SHOOTING. I HOPE HE DID. MAYBE JUST DIDN'T GET WE DID, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MOVING IN SEPTEMBER. HEY HAL, WE NOTICED THE, YOU DIDN'T SPEND ANY MONEY. THE BIGGEST ONE SINGLE THAT I 5,000 FOR BARBECUE? YES. YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF [01:00:01] DIESEL BUILDS ON THERE. NEXT ONE FROM PRECINCT TWO. . WHAT'S THAT? RAY COMPLAINED THAT KATHY ONLY FINDS THE EXPENSIVE ONE. THE, YOU WANT THIS BACK THING? YES. SECOND. I MADE THE MOTION AND RAISE SECOND. DID YOU GET THAT MARYANNE ALL? YEAH. SOMETHING BRING NO, I JUST WANTED TO, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT RAY WOULD PROBABLY A BETTER PERSON TO TAKE ABOUT THAT. ALRIGHT. CEMENT STABILIZATION THAN ME. ALRIGHT, WE'LL SO IF YOU DON'T MIND FERTILIZER THE JUDGE ALREADY USE OF PROFANITY IN THIS BASE. UH, OKAY. SEE Y'ALL GUYS, UH, MONDAY. WANNA LET US OUTTA HERE. MR. SHANE WILL MAKE THE MOTION SECOND MR. ALL IN MOTION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.