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THANK YOU FOR GIVING MANY BLESSINGS.
WE HONOR YOU TODAY WITH THE FREEDOM THAT YOU ALWAYS GIVE US.
PLEASE TAKE CARE OF OUR TROOPS WHO ARE IN HARM'S WAY.
WE ASK YOU BLESSINGS ON THE LEADERS OF OUR NATION TODAY.
ALSO BE WITH US TODAY IF WE DO OUR COUNTY'S BUSINESS ON US, WITH WE, YOUR SON'S NAME, AMEN.
I TO OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
INDIVIDUAL WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE ARE ALLEGIANCE TO BE OF TEXAS.
UH, Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING OR ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS.
IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.
I HAVE A NOTE HERE FROM, UH, ANGIE SAYING, CAN YOU DO NUMBER 14 RIGHT AFTER THE MINUTES, THE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY OF TERRELL HAVE TO GET OUTTA HERE.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE, SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVEN AND THEIR LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
RE ZONE ZONE NUMBER ONE WITH THE CITY OF MATERIAL, INMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.
THREE, UH, PEOPLE ON THE COURT HERE THAT Y'ALL SAY AGAIN.
UH, UH, THAT'S WHY I'M FIXING TO ASK, UH, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS ON SINCE IT WAS PUT ON WHEN I WAS GONE LAST WEEK.
IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME AGREEMENT, UH, THAT HOLLAND HAD APPROVED FOR US.
UH, HOW DID WE GET A RED LINE EDITION WITH WHAT WE GOT HERE THAT SHE SENT US? YEAH.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEEN CHANGED AREN'T GONNA BE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT REDUCED BY ABOUT $5 MILLION.
UH, I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL CALCULATION INCLUDE THE INTEREST OF SAFETY FUND WENT FROM 69 MILLION TO 64 MILLION.
HOW ABOUT THE, UH, THIS REVIEW BEFORE TODAY? YEAH.
JOHN, WHAT CAN WE DO IT WITH? I MEAN, I WOULD THINK I SAID THIS MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.
I'VE READ THROUGH THIS THING, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WE SHOULD WITH THE, WITH THE PROOF OF OUR ATTORNEY, CAN WE DO IT WAY? YEAH, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO, IF THEY'RE GONNA GONNA VOTE, GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT TODAY.
IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE THAT WAY.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE BIG CLAUSE IN THERE THAT WAS IN THE DISTRIBU ALL THESE MONTHS WAS THE COUNTY HAVING A SAY.
I MEAN, IS NOT IT IS THIS, IS THIS IS, THIS IS THE AGREEMENT THAT TOM VOLUME HAD WRITTEN OUT.
RED LINE CHANGES ON CARDS AND I SAID DOLLAR I THINK LOOKED, I HAD LOOKED AT IT, BUT I'M, IF, IF THIS IS TOM'S AGREEMENT, I NOT SECOND GUESS.
TOM, THIS IS, WELL I BELIEVE ON PAGE FOUR, PARAGRAPH D COVERED IT, BUT UH,
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THAT SEEMS LIKE THE LAST SENTENCE ADDRESSES THE CONCERN.YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE'VE COVERED THERE, BUT I THINK, UH, UNLESS, UNLESS TOM HAS SEEN THIS FINAL DRAFT, I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE IT.
SUBJECT TO IT BEING THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I, WITH THE APPROVAL WITH, WITH THE APPROVED OF THE ATTORNEY.
I CAN WITH THAT'S, CAN YOU, YOUR MOTION.
MOTION TO ENTER INTO THIS, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL BY THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY.
SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
DO YOU WANT JUDGE, JUDGE, BEFORE YOU MAKE A FILE, BUT WOULD IT BE SUBJECT TO MR. POLAND'S REVIEW? DO YOU NEED HIM TO REVIEW IT? DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? COMPARE IT TO WELL, TOM TO REVIEW.
BUT IN THIS CASE, HE IS THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY.
I DON'T NEED, YEAH, JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION BEFORE I YEAH, YEAH.
IT'LL BE TOM FOR, FOR YOUR BENEFIT.
BUT I THINK AS FAR AS THE ORDER GOES, SUFFICIENT COUNTY'S ATTORNEY GET THAT COUNTY'S ATTORNEY POSSESSIVE.
WELL, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS OR Y'ALL JUST HERE TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT DONE? WE DON'T WANT TO BE DEAD.
YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LEARN IN LAW SCHOOL IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU LEARN IN LAW SCHOOL GUYS IS WHEN YOU WON YOUR CASE, PACK UP YOUR STUFF AND GET OUTTA THE COURT.
THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.
SINCE YOU, SINCE THE MOTION'S BEEN APPROVED, I'M WILLING YOU TO VOTE
NO, SERIOUSLY, GUYS, Y'ALL WON'T SAY SOMETHING.
I'M NOT GOING BE LIKE A SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND REFUSE TO LET Y'ALL TALK SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAP STORIES.
JUDGE, THE MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION THAT, THAT THE DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN REVIEWED, UH, BY YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, UH, MR. POLAND.
AND THE, THE ITEMS, UH, IN RED, UH, WE FORWARDED TO YOU, UH, I BELIEVE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THERE'S A, AS YOU MENTIONED ON JUDGE JEN ON PAGE, UH, PAGE FOUR, UH, FOUR, UH, PARAGRAPH, UH, SECTION B AT THE BOTTOM.
UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR OTHER ATTORNEY CAN CHIME IN ON THIS, BUT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, IT HAS HAD A THOROUGH LEGAL REVIEW FOR THE LAST, UH, I BELIEVE FOUR MONTHS, UH, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE.
AND SO IT'S BEEN THROUGH THE TIF BOARD PROCESS.
MY LAST COMMUNICATION WAS FROM TOM.
WAS HE, HE RECOMMENDED WE ONLY APPROVE IT IF IT HAS THESE THINGS IN IT.
AND I WAS NOT AWARE THAT, THAT IT HAD ACTUALLY BEEN PUT INTO A NEW AGREEMENT AND 'CAUSE I KNOW MY OFFICE IS NOT SENT UNLESS ANGIE DID IT THIS WEEK WHEN I LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS IN SNAP.
THIS IS THE VERY ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT TOM SENT BACK.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT GO AHEAD.
THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION IS THAT THROUGH WORKING WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER SHANE, UH, THAT THE LEGAL REVIEW TO OUR KNOWLEDGE HAS OCCURRED, BUT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DOCUMENT READY TO PROCEED FOR YES SIR.
APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL PUTTING, APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S PATIENCE WITH US.
UH, JUST, WE WERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A 30 YEAR AGREEMENT, SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THE COUNTY 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
MAYOR, YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO, WELL, THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE WONDERING IS, DO YOU HAVE, UM, I THINK WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME IDEAS, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE TO GET A, TO GET, TO GET THIS, TO GET YOUR ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT IT AND APPROVE IT? I MEAN, HE'S NOT LIKELY ON VACATION FOR TWO WEEKS OR SOMETHING WHEN WE GET OUTTA THIS MEETING.
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OKAY.IT HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN, I WAS IN MARINE CORPS, I WE'RE, UH, WENT ON.
YEAH, WE, UH, I I'M SURE MR. THURMAN WOULD AGREE.
WE'RE WE, UH, WE COULD GET IT DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
WE GOT, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE MAYOR, I'M SORRY.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, THANK Y'ALL.
SO THAT BRINGS US AROUND TO MR. JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN OUR TO PRESENT THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR JULY, THE TREASURE'S QUARTERLY REPORT FOR ENDING JULY, JULY AND THE TREASURY QUARTER INVESTMENT REPORT JULY IN JUNE.
I THINK, BILL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, IT'S JUST A HONOR BEFORE JUDGE CASH IN GOOD SHAPE.
ANY QUESTION? ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, THE TREASURER ON THESE REPORTS? JUDGE, WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO FIRST ACCEPT THE MONTHLY REPORT.
MAY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FERRIS SAY AYE.
ANY, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE QUARTER OF THE REPORT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK IN DISCUSSION.
UH, HOW ABOUT THE INVESTMENT REPORT ENDING IN THAT QUARTER? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK? SECOND.
I'D READ WHAT'S THE SAY AYE MOTION? YOU CLARIFICATION THOSE?
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WE GOT A COPY OF THAT.WHILE WE WE'RE, I JUST LIKE TO TELL THE COURT HERE LAST WEEK, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE WAS IN AUSTIN AND I HAD A BREAKDOWN, BREAKDOWN MY DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK AND I HAD 6,000 GALLONS OF HOT, HOT UL SITTING THERE THAT I HAVE TO PUT OUT IMMEDIATELY.
I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER SHANE.
HIS TRUCK AND DRIVER WAS OVER THERE.
GOT US OUT OF HOT WATER OUT HERE TODAY.
WE COULD JUST DO LIKE WE DO AND JUST SEND OUR GUYS OVER THERE AND GET IT WITHOUT ASKING
YEAH, I PROBABLY OVERDO IT, BUT, UH, I'D RATHER HAVE TOO MANY.
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ONE MORE.ARE YOU SURE WE'RE NOT SELLING THAT? I BETTER TURN MINE OFF.
LET'S, UH, TALK ABOUT RELOCATING THE VOTING PLACE NUMBER FIVE FROM CHARLES SENIOR TERRACE BACK TO THE TERRELL FIRE STATION.
NUMBER TWO, TO COMPLY WITH LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
DICK, YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT OR IS THAT SELF-EXPLANATORY? I THINK IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY.
WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN THEY TRIED TO MOVE TO TERRELL CENTER, LATER DISCOVERED IT WAS IN THE WRONG PRECINCT.
MOTION MADE BACK TO MR. SHANE SECOND.
SECONDED BACK TO COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER PROVEN RESOLUTIONS ACCORDING TO CREATION OF THE COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT AND ADOPT A LOCAL SALES TAX.
YES, RAY AND I HAVE, UH, A LITTLE MORE WORK TO DO ON THIS.
WE DON'T GET GOOD NUMBERS FROM THE COMPTROLLER ON WHAT THIS WOULD BRING TO THE COUNTY.
UH, WE'RE NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD WORD THE RESOLUTION.
I THINK IT THE RESOLUTION ORIGINALLY WAS ROAD AND BRIDGE.
UH, AND I THINK WE NEED TO MODIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT.
SO I THINK WE'LL JUST TABLE THIS, UH, UNTIL WE GET THE CORRECT NUMBER FROM THE COMPTROLLER.
AND RAY AND I CAN DISCUSS THIS ISSUE.
I MAKE MOTION, MOTION MADE TO, UH, TABLE THAT ITEM SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? UM, ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS, AND Y'ALL CONTEMPLATING THIS AND EVERYTHING, REMEMBER THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'VE BEEN POINTING OUT TO US IS THAT IF WE, IF WE DON'T DO IT AND THE CITY ANNEX IS WE DO IT LATER, WE LOSE THAT AREA.
SO WE, IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, WE NEED TO DO IT BEFORE THE CITIES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND FURTHER.
I GUESS ONE CONCERN WE TO BRIDGE A SUGGESTION WORD THAT FOR TRANSPORTATION USES BECAUSE IN 15 OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT, RIGHT? WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT LIGHT RAIL, WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT NUMEROUS THINGS COUNTYWIDE THAT, THAT COULD SUPPORT.
LET US KNOW IF YOU, WELL, PROBABLY WILL.
SO ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THAT ITEM TODAY.
CONSIDER APPOINTING JUDGE JOHNNY ADAMS AS ONSITE SEWAGE HEARING FACILITY OFFICER WITH AN ADDITIONAL DUTY SUPPLEMENT OF 6,000 FOR THE OH 8 0 9 BUDGET.
YOU WANNA GO INTO A LITTLE HISTORY OF THAT? UH, YEAH.
THIS, THIS IS NOT REALLY A DOLLAR CHANGE.
UH, WHEN WE GOT THE SECOND COUNTY COURT OF LAW, WE DID NOT NEED A JUVENILE OFFICER COUNTY TO COURT LAW NUMBER TWO HANDLED THAT.
BUT JOHNNY AND WITH, WITH KATHY'S FIRST ENDORSEMENT HAS AGREED AND HAS WENT TO SCHOOL ON THE ONSITE SEWAGE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
UH, AND HE HAS DONE THIS FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS.
UM, AND HE VOLUNTEERED TO, TO DO THIS WHOLE THING.
IT, IT'S NO CHANGE IN THE OH 7 0 8, 0 8 0 9 BUDGET, BUT HE HAS AGREED TO DO THIS AT THE, THAT COURTHOUSE OVER THERE COURTHOUSE AND NEXT, WHATEVER'S SIMILAR THING HE WAS DOING WITH JUVENILES, EXCEPT IT'S JUST
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GOING TO BE FOR THE ON ONSITE SEWAGE, UH, COMPLAINTS.IF YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, I I MAKE THE WORDING, UH, ADDITIONAL DUTY SUPPLEMENT.
IF THIS DOES NOT, IF THIS JOB IS, IS NOT PERFORMED BY JOHNNY ADAMS, IT'S A SUPPLEMENT.
SO WE DON'T GET CONFUSED WITH PAY AND SUPPLEMENT.
THAT'S WHY I WORDED IT THAT WAY.
UH, IT'S A SUPPLEMENT JUST FOR DOING AN ADDITIONAL DUTY THAT'S MORE MILITARY TALK.
I DON'T KNOW IF KATHY WANTS TO EXPOUND ON THAT.
I GONNA BE DOING, INSTEAD OF US FILING ALL FOUR PRECINCTS AND EACH JP DOES SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, IT SPRING THE PROCESS.
WE FILE ON ABOUT 60 TO 80 PEOPLE A MONTH FOR, UH, VARIOUS THINGS.
MOSTLY FOR NOT RENEWING MEGAN'S CONTRACTS ON THEIR FACILITIES.
HE WENT TO THE WORKSHOP WITH US A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND, AND IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND HAS A SYSTEMS SET IN PLACE FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS AND EVERYTHING, WHICH IS, HE SHOWED A LOT MORE INTEREST THAN, THAN I'VE SEEN SHOW THE LAST 12 YEARS.
HE'S, HE'S VERY, AND A WITH EVERYTHING HE DOES, WE PROCESS FOR US.
THAT MAKES IT WHOLE LOT EASIER THAN FILING AN PERSON.
AND THE OTHER JPS ARE OKAY WITH THIS.
YEAH, THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T.
BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? UH, MR. MOND SAYING, UH, JOHNNY COME BY AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT.
HE SAID THAT ALL THE OTHER, UH, JUSTICE WERE FINE WITH THIS.
LIKE TO GET MORE MONEY, WHATEVER.
YEAH, THEY WERE FINE WITH HIM DOING THIS OTHER, AND I KNOW THE OTHER JPS THAT ACTUALLY RELAY THAT ON TO ME, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'D HAVE PROBLEMS. THEY WOULD'VE, YEAH, I THINK KATHY HERE, WHEN, WHEN IT ORIGINALLY BEGAN WHERE THE JUDGE IN PRECINCT FOUR WAS DOING ALL THE JUVENILE, UH, UH, DETENTION HEARINGS AND, UH, UH, BUT THAT THERE'S A HISTORY BEHIND THAT AS TO WHY WAS THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IS THAT ALL YOU NEED? UH, NEXT ONE.
DISCUSSION SITTER OR LEASE PURCHASE OF A WHEEL EX CONVEYOR FOR PRECINCT THREE THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
UH, THE PURPOSE PRICE OF THIS MACHINE IS $193,153.
UH, THERE IS A GUARANTEED BUYBACK FROM WHOLE CAT AT THE END OF THE LEASE AND, UH, IT SHOULD DECIDE TO TURN THE MACHINE IN.
AND THIS DOESN'T MEET ALL THE PROCUREMENT LAWS BUYING THROUGH THE BIBLE, SO I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THE MOTION.
UM, WHAT IS THE BUYBACK? THE BUYBACK, UH, AFTER, LET'S SEE, AFTER THREE YEARS, 36 MONTHS, THE GUARANTEED BUYBACK IS, UH, 93,570.
AND AFTER FIVE YEARS, IT'S 66,836.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UH, IF WE APPROVE THIS, THAT END THE LEASE, THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT IT ON AUCTION BLOCK AND SEE IF WE CAN BRING MORE MONEY.
UH, LET'S DISCUSS, UH, AND CONSIDER OPENING, AWARDING THE BID NUMBER ZERO EIGHT DASH ZERO SEVEN P FOR ALL PRECINCT.
DID WE, UM, YOU EVER RECEIVED ONE BID? UH, WE SENT OUT, I THINK, UH, 10 BIDS.
UH, WE RECEIVED ONE BID AND THAT BID IS FROM TRINITY MATERIALS.
UH, FERRIS, TEXAS, UH, WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THAT BID.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, BY COMMISSIONER SHANE ALL IN FAIR.
A THE BID JUDGE, THE, UH, BID IS FOR, UH, $9 PER TON.
PICKED UP THAT LOCATION AND IT WAS A NO BID OF THE, OF THE DELIVERY TO THE PRECINCT.
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SO THEY'RE ONLY BIDDING ON, UH, MATERIAL PICKUP? YEAH, EXACTLY.JUDGE, I THINK THIS WAS PUT ON THERE JUST FOR, UH, PRECINCT ONE.
SINCE THEY'RE SO CLOSE TO US, WE'VE BEEN USING THEM QUITE FREQUENTLY AND AS, UH, GETTING UP TO THE, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A BID FROM IT, SO JACK DECIDED PUT THEM OUT AND, UH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THAT YOU ACCEPT IT AND AWARD IT.
MOTION TO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
THE MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE BID AND AWARD.
TRINITY, WHAT WAS THE NAME? TRINITY WHAT? TRINITY MATERIALS.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
CONSIDER ADVERTISING FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR TRUCKING SERVICES FOR ALL PRECINCTS.
UH, JUDGE, I HAD A REQUEST TO, UH, GO OUT THE BID FOR TRUCKING SERVICES.
UH, LOCK OUT A CLARIFICATION ON, ON, UH, THIS BID IS TO BE MONDAY FOR LONG HAULS DELIVERED TO THE PRECINCTS OR WHETHER IT'S TO BE DELIVERED TO THE JOB SITE OR A COMBINATION THEREOF.
UH, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE CHARGING FOR A MILE, HOW WE KEEP UP WITH THAT, UH, VERSUS A POINT A TO POINT B.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE JUST, ARE WE WANTING TO, UH, AWARD THE JOB SITE, DELIVER JOB SITES USED FROM SOME MATERIALS OR ALL MATERIALS? UH, POSSIBLY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO REBID, UH, PROBABLY NEXT MONTH ON, ON ALL ROAD MATERIAL FOR PAINT CONTRACT AND ANOTHER OFFICER WILL BE WAIT TO SEE WHO IS THAT THERE.
UH, DO YOU USE IT? WOULD YOU USE IT? YEAH, WE, WE'VE HAVE USED IT IN THE PAST FOR IF, UH, IF THE WEATHER CATCHES US AND WE HAVE TO GET MATERIAL ON THE, IN A CERTAIN LOCATION, YOU HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO SOME HAULING FOR US, THEY CAN COVER IN 20 TRUCKS OUT THERE.
DO A ROAD ONE DAY WHERE IT TAKE US FIVE DAYS IF THE WEATHER WEATHER'S KILLING US.
THE PROBLEM IS LIKE A WHEN PRECINCT TOO.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CLOSE TO SEVILLE OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT UP IN POETRY? THAT GONNA COST OF FUEL.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE SAME PRICE.
AND IS THE BARN GOOD? TAKE THE SAINT BARN.
I FEEL THEY PROBABLY PER MILE WE'VE USED THEM.
WE'VE USED THEM ONCE, UH, JUST IN THE LAST MONTH OR SOME, I DUNNO, I DUNNO WHO THE BIDS ARE.
THEY CHARGE, UH, JUST ABOUT WHAT THE MATERIAL COSTS.
I THINK THEY DID IT BY THE TIME.
YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN CHARGING US BY THE TIME ALSO.
BUT LIKE I SAY, WHEN YOU, WE ADVERTISE WITH BIDS ONCE THE TON SPLIT THE PRICE TO ONE SIDE OF PRECINCT WORKERS VIEW FROM COMBINE TO KEMP.
NOT GONNA BE EITHER IT'S GONNA BE REAL HIGH OR HOW DO YOU MAKE THE FAIR, THAT'S WHY POINT TO POINT WOULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GO ALL OVER THE PRECINCT AND, AND EVERY ONE OF US DO IT.
SO HOW WOULD YOU PICK A POINT ON WHAT ROAD YOU'RE GOING ROUTE THIS OR WHERE LOCATION THAT THAT'S THING TO DO AT 10 MILEAGE? WELL, YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN CHARGED BASICALLY WHEN YOU CALL, THEY'LL GET YOUR PRICE BY THE TIME.
AND IT MAY BE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THE DISTANCE IS.
BUT WAS YOUR 6 75 ALSO FIVE 50? AH, CLOSER.
BUT THAT WAS BEFORE FUEL COST.
THAT'S WHAT I, WHAT I THINK A TON MILE COMMISSIONER, I SPOKE MORNING ABOUT THAT TON MILE.
AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT EITHER A COST FOR 14 YARD LOAD AND A 20 YARD LOAD PER MILE.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT THE BIDS NEXT MONTH, WHY DON'T YOU, UH, POSSIBLY JUST CALL AND SEE WHICH WAY THE TRUCKING COMPANY PREFER TO BID AND LET'S JUST WAIT UNTIL FIRST OCTOBER TO GO BACK OUT.
IF WE, IF WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, THE JOB SHOP AND THEN THE CONTRACT PRICE WOULDN'T AFFECT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S DELIVERED TO, TO THE BARN.
I DON'T HAVE A COPY EITHER WAY IT SUITS YOU PEOPLE BECAUSE I, I ONLY USED ONE, ONE HAUL.
IS THIS GETTING CLOSE TO THE 25 POUND THRESHOLD? IS THAT WHAT I THINK? UH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE THAT CLOSE TO THAT, BUT I THINK, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE HAUL MORE IN THE FUTURE.
WE'VE ONLY HAD TO DO IT ONCE IN THE
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WHOLE THREE, FOUR YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE AND WE MADE CALL, SOME PEOPLE CHARGE BY THE TIME, SOME BY THE YARD, SOME MILES.SO IT MAY VERY WELL BE TO PUT THE DEBT OUT AND MIGHT HAVE TO, UH, TWEAK IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EXTEND A BIT OR, UH, IT OPENS UP A MAT WE LOOK AT IT.
CAN YOU GIVE JUST TO GIVE IT, UH, JUST A BID ON A PRICE PERTON MAYBE WITH A SURCHARGE IF THEY'RE HAVING TO GO FURTHER OR SOMETHING? YEAH, TO THE, TO THE PRECINCT LOCATION.
YEAH, A MILEAGE PLUS OR MINUS, DEPENDING ON WHAT SIDE OF WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
DOES THAT GET TOO COMPLICATED? I I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SURCHARGE.
I THINK THE PROBABLY'S GONNA HAVE TO BE BASICALLY, UH, CHARGED PER TON OR YARD PER MILE.
BECAUSE PRECINCT FOUR MAY BE SOMEONE OUT THERE CLOSER TO HIM AND NOT BE USED SOME CLOSER TO PRECINCT.
I IT, WELL, WHEN WE TALKED TO 'EM, THEY JUST GAVE US A, THEY JUST GAVE US A PRICE PER TIME.
IF THAT'S THE WAY, CAN WE JUST GET A BID THAT WAY THEN? SURE CAN.
AND I HAVE SOME DATES, UH, TIME ON THIS ONE, LIKE TO, UH, CLOSE THE BIDS ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER THE NINTH AND OPEN MONDAY, OCTOBER 13TH.
THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA FALL IN LINE AND, AND JUDGE, WE JUDGE, WE COULD WAIT TILL WE REID THE MATERIAL.
IT'S GONNA BE REDDING THE MATERIAL THEN NEXT WEEK OR TWO? TWO.
WE'D HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL LITTLE BID CAME IN, UH, AND WE GO UP.
SO PULL IT BACK PROBABLY A MONTH OR TWO.
I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE HAVE A PROBLEM DOLLAR WISE.
YOU'RE JUST ABOUT AT THE END OF YOUR FEET.
GRAVEL USAGE HERE ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY BARN AND FLOODING OR SOMETHING SUCH SERVICES IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S OF THAT, THAT PRESSING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT RIGHT AWAY IMMEDIATELY.
WELL, IT MIGHT EVEN DO, THIS MIGHT EVEN INCLUDE THE HAULING, UH, IN MATERIAL DEAL.
I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST THERE.
SOME, SOME, SOME OF 'EM CALL THAT.
WELL, I CAN COME BACK TO COURT AND ASK COMMISSION FOR TO BID OUT MATERIAL AND TRUCK FILING SERVICES.
JUST HAVE LOT OF THE SAME PLAYERS ARE GONNA BE BIDDING.
SO WE WANT TO, UH, TABLE THAT FOR TODAY THEN.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TAYLOR TO TABLE THAT ITEM.
UH, IT'S TIME FOR US TO MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE.
I WOULD THEN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE FROM THE OPENING MEETING TO A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2008 2009.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWNEY.
WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING NOW FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT THE, UH, PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR THE NEW BUDGET.
UH, WE KEEP YOUR, ASK YOU TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
UH, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, WE'VE GOT A SIGN IN SHEET UP HERE WHERE YOU CAN COME SIGN IN AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A RECORD OF WHO, UH, WHO'S SPEAKING.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SIR, WOULD YOU PASS THAT? UH, OKAY.
WE HAVE, UH, LARRY GIBSON IN CASE.
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SIR, I'LL READ A STATEMENT, A PETITION IN OPPOSITION TO YOUR TAX INCREASE.AND WELL, FIRST OFF, YOU DO REALIZE WE'RE LOWER THE TAX RATE.
I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX RATE, BUT THE TAX RATE, IF YOU INCREASE THE VALUES, IT'S, IT'S SIX ONE WAY AND A HALF DOZEN OTHER.
WELL, SIR, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T INCREASE THE VALUE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DO WITH THAT.
WELL, SIR, JUST POINT THAT OUT.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T, YOU DO NOT DO THAT.
BUT THE BUCK STOP WITH SOMEBODY.
OKAY? AND THEN YOU ARE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, SO THE BUCK STOP WITH YOU AND US.
WE DO NOT ELECT THOSE PEOPLE OUT.
SO THE BUCK STOP WITH YOU AND, AND, AND WE EXPECT SOMETHING OUTTA YOU.
IN REFERENCE TO THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE, WE, THE PEOPLE
BUYING POWER, MEDIUM PAGE WORK, MEDIUM WAGE EARNERS DOWN $2,000 PER YEAR AND FUEL AT AN ALL TIME HIGH.
WE BELIEVE ANY PUBLIC OFFICIAL, WE, WE BELIEVE ANY PUBLIC OFFICIAL WHO WOULD CONSIDER A TAX INCREASE AT THIS TIME HAS BE ILLITERATE BLIND, OR JUST DON'T GIVE A DOWN FOR THE TAXPAYER'S INTEREST.
GOVERNMENT LIKE THE REST OF US SHOULD LEARN TO TA SHOULD LEARN TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELT.
PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARE ELECTED IN GOOD FAITH TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OVER GOVERNMENT BUSINESS AND TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THOSE WHO ELECT INVOLVED.
WE BELIEVE THAT ANY TAX INCREASE AT THIS TIME WOULD NOT BE IN THE PEOPLE'S BEST INTEREST.
ANYONE ELSE? I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROWING, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DULLER.
SO WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.
CONSIDER THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO COMPENSATE THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW JUDGES AS ALLOWED BY LAW.
UH, AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE AS REQUIRED BY LAW INSTEAD OF ALLOWED BY LAW.
I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD, UH, OKAY.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY CHOICE.
ANYONE MAKE THAT MOTION? IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE, THEN THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
THEN SECOND, I'M GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.
UH, NEXT WE WANT TO DISCUSS CONSIDER PRO EFFICIENCY PAY STANDARDS FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY INVESTIGATORS.
OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY WANTS TO SPEAK ON THAT SUBJECT.
UH, I'M ASKING THE, UH, COURT THIS MORNING TO CONSIDER, UH, AND APPROVE THIS, UH, PROFICIENCY PAY SUPPLEMENT, UH, SIMILAR TO ONE THAT THE SHERIFF HAS WITH HIS DEPUTIES.
UH, JUST FOR SOME BRIEF HISTORY, UH, WITH SOME PEACE OFFICER IN TEXAS, UH, THEY ARE RECOGNIZED BY CLEOS AS A OFFICER WITH BASIC TRAINING.
UM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT AN OFFICER CAN ACHIEVE IF THEY WANT TO BASED ON A COMBINATION OF EXPERIENCES, SPECIALIZED TRAINING THAT THEY TAKE.
UH, THE LEVELS ARE BASIC, UH, INTERMEDIATE, ADVANCED, AND MASTER.
UM, THE CURRENT SETUP WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS, IS $1,200 A YEAR.
IF SOMEONE GETS TO THE LEVEL OF ABOVE BASIC, WHICH IS INTERMEDIATE, $2,400 A YEAR, IF IT'S, UH, UH, ADVANCED AND $3,600 A YEAR, IT'S MASTER.
UH, I'M ASKING FOR THE SAME LEVEL.
I HAVE FIVE, UH, INVESTIGATORS, MY CHIEF INVESTIGATOR AND FOUR OTHER INVESTIGATORS.
UM, I THINK THE COURT, AND I THINK WE ALL BELIEVE
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THAT, UH, OFFICERS WHO TAKE THE TIME AND WANT TO BE, UH, MOTIVATED ENOUGH TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES AND DO ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE THAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY, UH, THAT'S BENEFICIAL.THAT THAT AND THE LAW ONE A LOT OF TIMES WILL PROVIDE LESS LIABILITY FOR THE COUNTY WHEN AN INCIDENT OCCURS WITH AN OFFICER.
UH, THE WAY IT'S, IN BASIC TERMS, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO FROM SOMEBODY COULD BE A 20 YEAR OFFICER AND STILL HAVE A BASIC CERTIFICATE TO STAY AT THAT LEVEL THROUGHOUT THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER, USUALLY YOU COME UP TO THE DIFFERENT LEVELS AT FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GO FROM BASIC TO INTERMEDIATE, YOU USUALLY NEED ABOUT FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE TIME COMBINED WITH YOUR SPECIALIZED TRAINING.
IF YOU WANT TO GET UP TO THE LEVEL OF, OF ADVANCED, YOU'VE GOTTA GO, UH, 10 YEARS, APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS, SOMETIMES ANY LESS WITH THE SPECIALIZED TRAINING AND SO ON.
SO FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, AND OVER 15 YEARS GENERALLY GETS YOU TO A MASTER'S LEVEL.
SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF SERVICE TIME WITH THE AGENCY YOU'RE WITH, AS WELL AS THE SPECIALIZED TRAINING THAT YOU CHOSE TO TAKE.
AND IT'S REQUIRED TO GET TO THE DIFFERENT LEVELS.
SO I'M ASKING THE COURT TO CONSIDER AND APPROVE, UH, OPTION TODAY.
IF SOMEBODY HAD ALL THE TIME THEY NEEDED, RICK, COULD THEY GO ONE LAYER AT A TIME? UH, YOU, YOU'VE STILL GOTTA GO BACK AND GET THE SPECIALIZED TRAINING.
SO YOU, YOU COULDN'T JUST, YOU COULDN'T JUST GET 20 YEARS AND THEN TAKE A COUPLE CLASSES AND GET THERE, THAT THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF SPECIALIZED TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE TO GET THERE.
UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE A LAWYER GETTING BOARD CERTIFIED.
UH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A SIMILAR SITUATION.
MOST LAWYERS AREN'T LAWYERS CERTIFIED, BUT SOME TAKE THE TIME TO DO IT.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THE SAME SITUATION WITH, UH, UH, PEACE OFFICERS.
AND I BELIEVE, AS I SAID, I'M STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF ANYBODY GETTING TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES WITH SPECIALIZED TRAINING.
I THINK WE ALL FEEL THAT WAY AND THAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY ALONG WITH HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE THAT TRAINING AND, AND COMBINE WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE.
UH, I I'M A PROPONENT OF THIS.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UH, ONE THING ABOUT, IT'S THAT YOU'RE JUST NOT GIVING SOMEBODY SOMETHING FOR HEAVEN.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO EARN THESE LEVELS TO THE EXTRA TRAINING THAT THEY GET TO.
IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC PAY RATE FOR ANYBODY.
A GUY CAN BE THERE FOR 15 YEARS AND DO NOTHING, STILL BE THE LOWEST PAY GRADE OR WHATEVER.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES? FIVE FIVE EMPLOYEE.
AND SO IF THEY TAKE INITIATIVE TO DO THE ADVANCEMENT, WHICH THE SHERIFF IS DRILLED INTO ME QUITE A BIT, THAT, UH, TRAINING IS GONNA KEEP US OUTTA THE COURTHOUSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE'D LIKE TO SEE, SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING FOR THE STANDARDS, WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS GONNA BE AS, AS FAR AS WHAT THEY, TO ACHIEVE THE LEVELS? UH, I CAN GET A COPY OF THAT AND DO THAT TO YOU.
WELL, I JUST, I JUST THOUGHT HE ASKED ME A QUESTION.
I KNOW THOSE YOU CAN'T REMEMBER ALL OF THEM, BUT THAT'S THE IDEA.
YOU WANNA READ EACH ONE OF THEM? NO, BUT I, WHILE HE IS LOOKING AT, LET ME, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SHERIFF.
UH, I FEEL FUNNY, UH, QUOING THE STATUTE TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, BUT
UH, AND THAT'S HOW THE SHERIFF GOT INTO THIS.
WE, UH, WE HAD TO SET LEVELS RIGHT? AND HIS CONCERN, UH, AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE THAT BOOK, UH, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT.
HIS CONCERN WAS KEEPING HIS STAFF, HIS BIG STAFF, HIS UP, YOU KNOW, CHIEFS CHIEF, CHIEF COCHRAN AND ALLEN AND ALL OVER KEEPING THE QUALIFIED PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S HOW THIS GOT STARTED.
I JUST, THERE'S, YOU CAN READ THAT IF YOU WANT.
I I JUST RESEARCHED IT FOR THE SHERIFF AND WE DID THIS.
WELL, LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO GET TO A LEVEL INTERMEDIATE PEACE OFFICER, UH, YOU WOULD NEED ONE OF THE FOLLOWING COMBINATIONS.
EITHER 400 TRAINING HOURS AND EIGHT YEARS, OR 800 TRAINING HOURS AND SIX YEARS, OR 1200 TRAINING HOURS AND FOUR YEARS AND ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, OR 2,400 TRAINING HOURS AND TWO YEARS OF, OR A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN TWO YEARS.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS TO GET TO WHERE YOU GET THE NEXT LEVEL.
OBVIOUSLY I'M, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE, LET'S SOMEBODY GET 2,400 TRAINING HOURS.
ONE OF MY INVESTIGATORS, SO, UH, ADVANCED, UH, PEACE OFFICER, UH, 800 TRAINING HOURS AND 12 YEARS, 1200 TRAINING HOURS IN NINE YEARS FOR
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AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN SIX YEARS, 2,400 TRAINING HOURS IN SIX YEARS, OR A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN FIVE YEARS.MASTERPIECE OFFICER, UH, 1200 TRAINING HOURS IN 20 YEARS, OR AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN 12 YEARS, 2,400 TRAINING HOURS IN 15 YEARS, OR A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN 9 30, 300 TRAINING HOURS IN 12 YEARS, OR A MASTER'S DEGREE IN SEVEN YEARS, 400 TRAINING HOURS IN 10 YEARS, OR A DOCTORAL DEGREE IN FIVE YEARS.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED TO GET THERE.
BUT YOUR REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE DIFFERENT TO THE SHERIFF'S WOULD OR NOT? OR WOULD THEY BE EXACTLY.
SO YOU WOULD HOPE MASTER YEAH, WELL YOU WANT QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND YOU WANT PEOPLE THAT ARE CONFIDENT AND, UH, IF YOU GOT CURE IT OUT THERE, THAT CONNECTED HEALTH, THAT'S FINE.
BUT IT REALLY BEGINS WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S OFFICERS, I'M SURE I KNOW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT GOT DEPUTIES THAT HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKEN THE TIME TO DO THAT EXTRA TRAINING.
THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED TO SAY IT COULD HELP THE ATTRITION RATE IN AND ALL OF THOSE OFFICERS SURE.
IF THEY KNEW HAD, LET ME GET BACK ON TRACK HERE.
COMMISSIONER CLARK MAY MAKE THE MOTION.
NOW I HOLDING FOR MORE DISCUSSION.
WELL, I SEE THIS AS A TOOL FOR HIM TO KEEP PEOPLE THAT ARE MOTIVATED AND, AND WORKING.
THEY'LL DO A BETTER JOB ANYMORE.
IT'S IN THE T MY ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERN, AND GOD KNOWS I'VE BEEN A SUPPORTER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, PROBABLY AD NAUSEA.
UH, BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.
UH, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WHEN THE COUNTY CLERK BRINGS THEIR DEPUTIES IN THAT'S BEEN TO SOME OF THESE ADVANCED SCHOOLS? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WHEN THE JPS BRING THEIR CLERKS IN? WHO HAS BEEN TO THESE ADVANCED SCHOOLS AT ONE TIME? THE CLERKS AND KIM WERE ALL, ALL HIGHLY QUALIFIED LARGE CERTIFICATES.
ARE WE GOING TO SAY THIS IS IT NO MORE? OR ARE WE GOING TO HEAR THAT? I MEAN, THIS COULD GO ON FOREVER.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE, HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE COST OF THIS IS GONNA BE, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR IT.
BUT THE COST OF WHAT AND THE MORALE ISSUE IS, IS IF THESE DEPUTY AND, AND THE CONSTABLE DEPUTY CONSTABLES, WHERE'S THAT GOING WORK? TAKE US.
IT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A CONSIDERATION.
BUT HAVE I ALREADY SET THE PRECEDENT AS FAR AS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND RELATED LAW ENFORCEMENT? I DON'T, I THINK YOU COULD SEPARATE LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM A DEPUTY DISTRICT CLERK, MY DEPUTY COUNTY CLERK, UH, BY JUST, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT THE JOB PAYS WHAT THE JOB PAYS.
JUST LIKE ANY OF US, THE JOB PAYS WHAT THE JOB PAYS.
IF WE WANT TO GO GET, UH, THAT ADVANCED CERTIFICATE, UH, THROUGH VG YOUNG OR THE ADVANCED TRAINING THAT JERRY AND KENNETH WENT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE ALL GET A CERTIFICATE EVERY YEAR AND WE WE'RE ADVANCED IN OUR, OUR POSITION AND OUR EDUCATION.
IF, IF WE JUST LIMIT IT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, I I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
UH, BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T, WE'RE OPENING DEPARTMENT TO SAY MIKE, MIKE CLERK HAS GOT THE CERTIFICATES.
I THINK WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AND TAKE EACH REQUEST AS IT COMES IN.
JIM'S CONCERNED ON THAT DEFICIENCY AWARD TYPE THING.
AND I'M SURE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE WE COME CAN SEE HOW THEY DID THAT SO THAT WE MIGHT YEAH, BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER.
BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER COL COUNTY'S WELL, NOT THAT ONE.
THE EMPLOYEES, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST LOT BIGGER CORPORATIONS THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
BUT ANYWAY, I THINK AS FAR AS THE WAY THIS ONE'S WORD FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY INVESTIGATORS, MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, TAKE A VOTE ON ALL IN FAVOR.
UH, GENTLEMEN, SAME DISCUSSION ON CONSTABLES.
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YOU KNOW, I THINK YEAH, THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
WELL, THERE'S THE ARGUMENT PART.
THERE'S THE STANDARD THAT ARE SET, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY HAVE THE DOUBLES THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE TO MOVE FROM, UH, IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN THIS? IS THIS OUTTA THE T CLOSE MANUAL? I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THAT.
IF I'M STRONG WITH IT, BUT, UH, START OFF WITH
AND SECOND AND ON THAT ONE AND, OKAY, COMMISSIONER ROW, NOW DISCUSSION.
THERE'S NO, UH, THE BUDGET'S ALREADY, UH, THIS IS, UH, NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE BUDGET NOW THAT I JUST BE CONCERNED FOR YOU.
UH, THE MONEY'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET, CORRECT? TO YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
IF, IF IS THE CONSTABLES ACHIEVE THESE LEVELS, LEVELS, I I WOULD HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR IT IF THEY WENT BY THE TLO MANUAL FOR THE FOUR LEVELS.
DO THESE COME OUT OF THE TLOS MANUAL? I'VE JUST SEEN THIS HERE.
UH, YEAH, THAT WAS THE SAME ONE THAT WAS TURNED IN TO THE BUDGET PACKET.
UH, AS, AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS WHAT IT WAS TO STAY AWAY FROM THE, UH, T CLOSE T CLOSE, UH, CERTIFICATES OF, UH, INTERMEDIATE ADVANCED AND, AND IT, UH, MATTER SAME AS SAME AS BRIEF WAS TALKING ABOUT
IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT, THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS THE TCOS REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT THIS IS JUST IT IN A BETTER FORM WHEN I CAN READ, UNDERSTAND, READ, UNDERSTAND.
WELL, YOU WANT YOUR MOTION THEN TO INCLUDE, UH, THE, UH,
THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER, UH, WE HAD THE, HAD THE, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT AND THAT ONE, JOE DON, CAN WE USE YOUR REQUIREMENTS THERE AND T CLOSE REQUIREMENTS TO COMBINE 'EM TOGETHER, SAY WHICH IS MORE STRICT.
OKAY, WHICH ONE'S MORE STRICT? THE, THE ONE WHERE, THE ONE WHERE I LAID OUT IN THAT DEAL, IT HAS, HAS MORE TRAINING AND, AND I, I'M, SAME WITH RICK.
THE, UH, MORE EDUCATED, OUR PEACE OFFICERS ARE BUT'S I GO TO, WE HAVE ON COUNTY AND IT'S ALSO THIS CITY THERE TO, TO MAKE IT GO TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THE SHERIFF HATCH.
THIS 1970, UH, 1993, THE HOUSE BILL 7 71 ESTABLISHED THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER.
WE SHOULD HAVE ONE FOR EACH COUNTY.
AND AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES ME, UH, HEALTH OFFICER.
RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER.
DO WE SHERIFF? PARDON? DO WE HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER AS OF THIS TIME FOR THE COUNTY? WE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ONE.
THE COMMITTEE WORKING ON THAT.
IT WAS THE MEETING WE'VE HAD AFTER JUDGE T ON, UH, JAIL DIVERSION'S.
IT HELP OUR JAIL, IT'LL HELP KEEP PEOPLE OUT JAIL BEFORE.
YOU CANNOT, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE PHYSICAL TRAINING AND IT HAS TO BE, THERE'S THREE OTHER STEPS.
UH, IT'S GOTTA GO WITH IT LIKE THIS EPR AND STUFF, THE CT TRAINING.
BUT THE, BUT THE REST OF IT IS, IS DOCUMENTED MENTAL, UH, DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH, KNOWING CHALLENGED PERSONS THAT ARE OUT THERE BEFORE WE TAKE A FROM ACTION.
IT'S IT'S THE SAME SORT OF HOSTAGE NEGOTIATOR, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT MORE IN DEPTH.
ARE THESE, UH, INCREASED INCREMENTS? SAME AS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND SAME AS THE, WHAT WE JUST APPROVED THE DA IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN THOSE JUDGE LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT
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LATER.I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SEE US GO WITH THE, UH,
WE'RE GONNA, THEY'RE I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DA AND THE SHERIFF AND THE CONS ALL THE SAME.
BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE SHERIFF SAID, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE, AND THAT IS ANOTHER, ANOTHER LEVEL RIGHT THERE AS MENTAL HEALTH.
IT'S NOT LISTED ON A T PLUS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY AT THAT ONE FOR THE COUNTY WHERE EVERYONE DOESN'T HAVE TO ADD IT.
AND IF WE COULD INCLUDE THAT IN THERE, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
THAT'S, THAT'S A JOB DESCRIPTION.
NOW IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE IF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS WORKING ON ONE JOE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT ALL THREE OF OUR, ALL THREE OF OUR PERSONS IN OUR OFFICE HAS ALREADY ALREADY BEEN THROUGH ALL THE TRAINING, ALL THE FORCE FOR IT.
ARE THEY GONNA COVER IT ALL OVER THE COUNTY OR JUST IN YOUR PRECINCT? WE CAN COVER, WE CAN COVER THE COUNTY CONSTABLES, CONSTABLE'S RESPONSIBILITY AND JURISDICTION IS IN THE COUNTY.
BUT I KNOW SOME S DON'T WANT THEIR PEOPLE GOING OUT THEIR PRECINCT.
BUT WE DO, UM, SUCH SAME AS OUR, UH, OUR HOT CHECK BACK OVER 12, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S 37 DIFFERENT, UH, THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED POLICE OFFICERS IN, IN TOTAL CRIMINAL PROCEDURE.
IS IT, THIS ONE WOULD JUST HAVE TWO STEPS OF THE DEPUTY TWO AND NOT THE DEPUTY THREE? YES, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO START.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE DEPUTY TWO AND THEN THE DEPUTY THREE.
UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, IT'S YOUR MOTION.
HAVE YOU IF YOU WANT CLOSE, CLOSE.
THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY VALID ARGUMENT.
WHATEVER WE DO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE, THINK WE SHOULD.
THAT'S, THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT TWO DIFFERENT STATES BECAUSE THAT, THAT DOES JUST HAVE THE, UH, INTERMEDIATE ADVANCED AND MASTER MASTER LICENSE FROM TLO.
THIS ONE HERE DOES INCLUDE THE MENTAL HEALTH, THE, UH, SEAL PROCESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP CONTINUING AND CONTINU.
LET'S, LET'S DO THE TELOS THING THEN.
BECAUSE WHAT THE SHERIFF GETS A MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER'S TRYING DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE.
IT SAYS YOU SHALL HAVE ONE, BUT YOU CAN HAVE 10 OF THEM.
I THINK MORE THAN WE'VE GOT THE BETTER.
GOING BACK, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK AND I THINK IF, IF AN OFFICER WANTS TO GO GET CERTIFIED IN MENTAL HEALTH, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN START PIECEMEALING THE IMPLEMENTATION.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN LET'S GO BY THE T CLOSE REQUIREMENTS AND YOU KNOW, FOR EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE NEXT FOR EVERYBODY.
WELL FOR DEPUTY CONS, BECAUSE IF YOU START PIECEMEALING IT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S GOING TO, HE HAD TO CERTIFY INVESTIGATOR IN SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN THE SHERIFF WILL GET A CERTIFICATION IN SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN WE START GETTING AWAY FROM THE
DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT JOB, JOHN? WELL, HE STILL WANTS HIS SURE HE WANTS THE MORE YOU GET FOR THE PEOPLE, THAT'S LOGICAL.
THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, WELL THAT, THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE WE, OUR, OUR PRECINCT IS, IS DOING A PRECEDENCE AND WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A, WE'RE ATTACKING A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS BECAUSE IT COMES UP SWITCH REAL FAST.
NOW SEE, BECAUSE THE BRUNT OF THE MENTAL ILLNESS PAPERS SERVED AND MENTAL ILLNESS PROBLEMS ARE IN PRECINCT THREE.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE NIPPING ON THE HEELS THREE PAD 'CAUSE UH, 'CAUSE OF THE ADDITIONS THAT WE'VE GOT AND BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO'S COMING IN, THAT'S THE REASON WE'VE DONE THE, THE WARRANT THING THAT WE'RE DOING, TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE BACK WARRANTS AND FOUR MONTHS, 12,000.
IT'S NOT A BAD DEAL TAKING TWO PEOPLE TO JAIL.
THE MOTION IS TO UH, BRING THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES UNDER THE SAME AND THIS IS JUST FOR DEPUTIES.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYONE OUTSIDE.
WHO ELSE IS THERE? OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
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UH, MOTION TO BRING THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES UNDER THE UH, CLOSE INCREMENT.UM, WHAT PAY SCALE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
HAVE I CONFUSED YOU LAURA? HELL LOOKS CONFUSED.
HOW DOES THIS NOT AFFECT PROFICIENCY PAY GO PROFICIENCY.
HOW DOES THAT NOT AFFECT THE BUDGET? BIG TIME.
OH, IT WOULD TRANSFER FROM MORE EFFECT BOTTOM LINE BUDGET.
IT'LL AFFECT THEIR SALARY BUDGET.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY BIG TIME SALARY BUDGET IF THEY HAVE TO BEAT THESE THINGS, BUT HE'S GOT BUDGET TO MOVE FROM LINE ITEM THEY UP TO.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW IF THE GUY'S GONNA BE A PAY OR NOT.
YOU SHOULD KNOW WHEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET THAT THRESHOLD AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I SAY WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TWO DEPUTIES A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH FOR THE $1,200.
UH, DOESN'T START TILL JANUARY.
SO IN THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, THAT'S 2010 BY PERIOD.
BUT THE ONLY WAY IT WON'T AFFECT YOUR BOTTOM LINE BUDGET IS IF YOU TAKE THAT 2000 FROM ANOTHER FROM ANOTHER, WHICH IS WHAT HE SAID HE WAS WILLING TO DO.
HE DOESN'T WANT, HE DOES NOT WANT TO INCREASE HIS BOTTOM LINE CONSTABLE BUDGET.
GONNA SAY JUST KNOW WHERE YOU WANNA MOVE FROM.
LIKE WE WE'RE SUFFERING JUST A TA.
OKAY LAURA, THAT SHOULD BE PROFICIENCY PAY STANDARD FOR DEPUTY CONSTABLES.
SAME AS UNDER THE TCO REQUIREMENTS BASED ON TCO CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
FOR THE OTHER THREE CONSTABLES WITH DEPUTIES, ARE THEY WILLING TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THEIR BUDGET AS WELL? HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING NOW? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES SIR.
UH, PRECINCT ONE HAS, UH, PRECINCT ONE AND HALF $200 A MONTH.
I PRECINCT THREE AND HALF A $200 A MONTH BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH ADVANCED AND IN PRECINCT FOUR.
I'D SAY IF, UH, IF THE CONSTABLE WANTS HIS, I MEAN WE'RE PASSING THE RESOLUTION WITH THE ORDER ALLOWING IT, BUT I'D SAY IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN THE BUDGET, IF IT CAN'T BE TAKEN FROM THE BUDGET IN THERE, WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SIX MONTHS, THEN THEY DON'T GET IT THIS TIME.
WAIT, NEXT SCHOOL NOW YOU, YOU'RE WILLING TO GIVE UP $2,000 OUT OF EXTRA HELP? YES SIR.
TO GET, TO GET THIS DONE FOR THESE GUYS.
POSSIBLE SALARY AND WELL, AND I'D SAY THE OTHER CUSTOMERS GONNA HAVE DO THE SAME THING IF THEY WANT THEIR, THAT'S MY OPINION.
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO AFFECT THE BOTTOM LINE.
RIGHT? AM I SUPPOSED THEY HAVE MUCH IN THERE AHEAD? OKAY.
UH, I WANNA CONSIDER SETTING A DATE FOR A WORKSHOP ON SUBDIVISION RES.
UH, FIND TIME FOR ALLERS AND NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.
I THINK WE SHOULD GET THROUGH BUDGET WORK BEFORE YOU START ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I WANTED TO GET THIS, UH, ON THE AGENDA.
START WORKING ON THIS BECAUSE I'VE GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS. I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS GOT SHORTLY.
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THE BEST WAY WE DO THAT IS LET AN CALL, WORK IT OUT.GIVE US A CALL TO LOOK AT OUR CALENDAR AND SEE WHERE WE'RE, OKAY.
SO IS THAT UH, OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? WE'LL HAVE.
CONSIDER APPROVING A BID FOR RESALE OF TAX PROPERTY.
DESCRIBED AS LOT 12 B BLOCK FOUR SPELLINGS THIRD AND FOURTH AND KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THOSE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER CLARK? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
CONSIDER GIVING PERMISSION TO CALL THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
USE ELECTRICAL POWER FROM THE COURTHOUSE FOR FOOD VENDORS DURING THE ANNUAL SCARED PRO FESTIVAL.
JUDGE, I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THIS WITH, UH, THE CHAMBER USED TO DO IT FOR A WHILE, THEN THE CITY TOOK IT OVER AND DID IT FOR A WHILE AND UH, WE LET 'EM, UH, WE OPENED SOME OF THE COURTHOUSE DOORS SO THEY CAN GET IN THERE.
FREDDY HAS ALWAYS WORKED WITH, UH, WITH UH, THE PEOPLE THAT NEEDED THAT.
SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE DONE FOREVER.
SO WE WERE JUST ASKING TO INCLUDED IN THAT, OF COURSE IS THEY WANT TO USE THE PARKING LOT FOR THEIR ANTIQUE CAR.
SHE, WHEN I, MY DISCUSSION WITH, I TOLD 'EM THEY COULD NOT USE ANYTHING BELONGED TO THE COUNTY UNTIL THE COUNTY HAD AN INSURANCE POLICY FOR A MILLION DOLLARS.
EXONERATED THE COUNTY FROM ANY LIABILITY.
WELL WE WANT THAT PRESENTED TO US, UH, AT LEAST A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE THE THING STARTS.
WELL I THINK ONE TIME THEY SET UP SOME VENDORS IN THIS LITTLE PARKING LOT HERE ALSO.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STOP THAT ALSO THAT WE CAN'T WELL WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE WAS THAT WE WERE HAVING EARLY VOTING RIGHT THAT SAME SATURDAY.
AND THE VENDORS WERE HERE AND THEY WERE IN INTERFERING WITH PEOPLE COMING IN TO VOTE.
SO YEAH, THIS SECTION HERE IS OUT.
I CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS A COUPLE OF US COMMENTS.
MY NAME IS JU MAYS AND I'M WITH THE KAUFFMAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND I'M ACTUALLY THE COORDINATOR FOR THE SIERRA CLUB FESTIVAL THIS YEAR.
UM, AS FAR AS THE LIE OUT HERE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE, UM, ANTIQUE CAR SHOW, BUT WE DID WANT TO CON UH, CONTINUE WITH THE IDEA OF USING THAT PROBABLY FOR VENDOR PARKING.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE, UH, MILLION DOLLAR, UM, INSURANCE IN THE WORKS AND WE ASKED 'EM TO GO BACK AND ADD THAT LOT.
SO ALSO THE CITY HAD, UH, GIVEN US VERBAL PERMISSION TO USE THEIR PARKING LOT THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE ALSO ADDING THAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THE OVERALL, UM, POLICY THAT WILL COVER THE ENTIRE
UM, AS MR. ROWDEN SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE EVERY YEAR AND ACTUALLY GARDNER OUR ELECTRIC GUYS IN AND ACTUALLY THEY'RE ON PREMISES AND THEY TAKE CARE OF THIS AND THERE'S ACTUALLY, UM, THE METERS, I DON'T IF THEY SET THE METERS RESET 'EM OR IF THEY ACTUALLY JUST TAKE THE NUMBERS OFF OF 'EM.
BUT WE ACTUALLY GET BILLED, WE'LL GET BILLED FOR THE ELECTRICITY.
YOU WON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ELECTRICITY.
LAST YEAR I THINK THE CITY PAID FOR TWO YEARS.
I'M SORRY, FOR TWO DAYS IT WAS $600.
AND SO WE'RE, THIS IS A ONE DAY EVENT SO IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE AROUND $300 AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE BE BILL WITH THAT.
WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT GONNA NEED THIS FOR THE ANTIQUE CAR SHOW, ARE YOU NOT GONNA HAVE AN ANTIQUE CAR SHOW AT ALL? NO, WE DONE THAT AT THE CITY LAST YEAR.
SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY PULL WITH THEM,
NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT USING THAT FOR, UM, VENDOR PARKING, WHICH THE VENDORS ALWAYS COMPLAIN.
WE NEVER HAVE A PLACE TO PARK.
AND AS FAR AS THE ELECTION VOTING, UH, OUR PLANS WERE TO PUT SOME OF THAT ORANGE FENCING AROUND YOUR LOT FOR, FOR VOTING, VOTING PARKING AND HAVE SOME LARGE SIGNS DISPLAYED THAT SAID FOR EARLY VOTERS ON THEM ONLY.
AND THEN ASK THEM TO REMOVE THEIR CARS AFTER THEY VOTE.
JUST SOME WORDING TO THAT EFFECT.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UM, HAVE IT WHERE THERE'S BE AN ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, ONE ENTRANCE THERE AND THEN ONE ENTRANCE OUT AND NOT, NOT HAVE IT WIDE OPEN LIKE IT IS NOW.
I THINK AS LONG AS IT'S DISPLAYED THEY KNOW THIS IS WHERE I GO TO VOTE.
YEAH, THE, THE ONLY PROBLEM WAS THAT A, A COOKING VENDOR SET UP OUT THERE.
THAT WAS KIND OF THE WAY THAT, BUT THAT, THAT GOT WORKED OUT THOUGH.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WITH THE CAR SHOW.
THEY JUST SAID THEY GOT MAD AT THE CITY.
I THINK SOMEONE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
SOMEONE, UM, THE GENTLEMAN CAME IN AND MET WITH
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ME THAT HAS THE CAR SHOW AND I DON'T KNOW, HE HAD EVERYTHING FROM, I DON'T LIKE THE NAME OF THE FESTIVAL TO, TO LIKE SOMEBODY WAS RUDE TO IT, SO I DON'T KNOW.BUT I WASN'T HERE SO I ADDRESS, I HATE THAT THAT WAS A, YEAH, THAT WAS A GOOD PART.
AND WE'RE WORKING ON, ACTUALLY THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CAR SHOWS IN THE AREA AND WE'RE WORKING BUT IT USUALLY TAKES ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS TO GET THAT, GET ONE IN HERE AND WE HAVE QUITE AHEAD OF TIME TO DO THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE UH, VIETNAM WALL OF TEXAS, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A BOOTH SET UP THAT DAY, YOU RECKON? PROBABLY.
WHEN IS IT? OCTOBER THE 25TH I THINK.
BUT WE LOST FLYING MUSEUM SHOW BEFORE.
THEY'RE GONNA KEEP BRINGING ALL IN FOR THAT.
YOU CAN'T GET
COMMISSIONER BROWN WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.
OKAY, UH, NEXT THING, DISCUSS.
CONSIDER APPROVING DICTATION OF SUSAN D FOR THE TALL COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TELLER.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWING.
ALL FAIR TO SAY A MOTION CARRIES, UH, EMBARK STILL TRYING TO GET THE SERVICE DONE IN PRECINCT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER D SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
COMMISSIONER D WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.
SECOND COMMISSIONER ROUND WILL SECOND IT.
A MOTION CARRIES, UH, COUNTY ROAD 40 31 WEST NINTH STREET.
DO WE HAVE AN ITEM? ITEM TRANSFER? YES, SIR.
INCREASED RESIDENTIAL SERVICE.
DUCTION OF ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE COSTS FOR ADULT PROBATION BETWEEN SALARIES, SALARY OF CLASSIFICATIONS, COURT OFFICERS AND PROBATION OFFICERS.
INCREASE NON-RESIDENTIAL SERVICES.
8,000 FOR PRODUCTION OF EXTRA HELP.
AND UH, PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE BETWEEN SALARY.
NINE ITEMS. DEFENDER, SECRETARY MISCLASSIFICATION AND THEN INCREASED MILEAGE MEALS AND LOING THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICE SUPPLY OF 6,000 AND LIFE INSURANCE COSTS 6,000 WITH REDUCTION.
MISCELLANEOUS OF 6,000 AND OFFICE OF 6,000 DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAVE A SWITCH BETWEEN SALARY FOR INVESTIGATORS AND POSITION THIS AREA.
MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS INCREASE UTILITIES.
$9,000 IN REDUCTION IN HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS.
SHERIFF'S OFFICE INCREASED GAS AND OIL.
7,000 REDUCTION IN COMMUNICATIONS JAIL FUND.
WE HAD SOME SWITCH BETWEEN SALARY POSSESSIONS.
CHARITIES FOR THE LEAVE SWITCH BETWEEN CPS ATTORNEYS AND 7,000 AND DISTRICT COURT COST 7,000 EXTENSION SERVICE.
INCREASED AGENTS OUTTA COUNTY TRAVEL.
1005 86 REDUCTION UH, AND CAR ALLOWANCE OF SEVEN $87 IN JANITORIAL SERVICE OF 6 9 9.
CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASE REPAIRS.
COUNTY PROPERTY OF THOUSAND DOLLARS AND AIR CONDITIONING COSTS 3000 IN PRODUCTION AND PURPOSE OF PROPERTY COMPUTER AREA.
INCREASED GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
COSTS 2000 PRODUCTION SOFTWARE COSTS.
HEALTHCARE INCREASED OFFICE FURNITURE.
REDUCTION SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE, CHILD SHELTER, REST THE SWITCH BETWEEN, UH,
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SALARY POSITIONS AND PARTTIME.6 9 73 ROAD PRECINCT ONE PRE SECTION HALF 1500.
COMMUNICATION'S 300 UNIFORMS. 400 NEW EQUIPMENT.
MISCELLANEOUS 47 ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT TWO.
10 PARTS REPAIR 5,000 IN PRODUCTION OF EXTRA HELP OF 15.
MISCELLANEOUS 800 EQUIPMENT 1000 WITH DIRECTION SALARY COSTS OF 2004 35.
ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
ONE IS TO CORRECT, UH, WHERE I POSTED A PREVIOUS BUDGET AMENDMENT EXCUSE ME.
A FEW MONTHS AGO WE, WE AMENDED FIRE MARSHAL'S BUDGET $2,727 AND I POSTED IT TO THE WRONG, UH, BUDGET.
DID THAT COME OUT A TWO? NO SIR.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TWO.
AND THEN, UH, THE REAL BUDGET AMENDMENT WE'RE CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUES FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF ELECTION EXPENSES.
AND WHERE DID THAT 34,000 COME FROM? UH, THIS REIMBURSEMENT COSTS FROM PARTIES AND PARTY CITIES.
Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST? WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
HAVE ANY BILLS WE NEED? YES SIR.
I TOLD JERRY, WHEN JIM GIVES YOU SOMETHING, BE CAREFUL.
I TRYING TO BE AND SHE GOES NOT AS LEAN, NOT AS MEAN, BUT QUESTION LEAN.
MAYBE, MAYBE AS MEAN SHE GOES TO EVERY SCHOOL COULD BE AS MEAN.
UH, HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS, UH, ADDRESS ON IT, BUT HE HAD HIS PHONE NUMBER WAS A FOUR SIX NINE WAS PEOPLE, IT WAS YOUR FATHER.
WELL, THE THING ABOUT IT IS WHAT'S GOING, YEAH, IT STILL IRKS ME.
THE WAY THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THAT LAW, THE TAX RATE WILL RAISE TAXES FOR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS BY LESS THAN FIVE.
INCREASE THE ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, THEY GIVE A ADDRESS.
SHE WOULDN'T, DON'T GET HER STEERED UP.
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I CAN'T READ MOST OF WORTH WORKSHOP, WHATEVER.EVERYTHING THAT YOU TO THROW YOU OR ANYTHING.
NEVER THAT OPPORTUNITY FOREST.
JOHN, UH, UH, TOLD ME OTHER DAY.
HE SAID WE WENT SATURDAY NIGHT DOWN THE CLUB DINNER WITH, AFTER JEFF WITH UH, RON AND TOMMY AND EDDIE.
WELL, GUY HAD A MESSAGE, UH, YESTERDAY OR LAST NIGHT WHEN I TURNED MY PHONE.
HE SAW ME SAYING THAT, UH, TALK TO, WE USED TO BUY SNACKS AND STUFF.
WE STILL NEED TO DO, IT'D BE GOOD.
IT'D BE GOOD TO BUY LITTLE, EVERY NOW AND THEN.
IT'S WAY WE'D ALL JUST PUT IN 200, PUT HIS POCKET OFF EVERY, WE USED TO SEE ALL FIVE OF US DRINK DIFFERENT.
SO I USED TO GET A CASE FOR EACH PERSON EXCEPT ME.
THAT'S ANYBODY ON I DON'T RECOGNIZE.
I DON'T WANNA, UH, JUDGE OWEN, WHAT I DID
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RECOGNIZE WAS, UH, SKIP GODS LITTLE DAUGHTER COURT.SHE'S NOT LITTLE ANYMORE, BUT I RECOGNIZE HER NAME ON IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE THAT PETITION WHEN WE GOT PETITION GOING WITH COS THAT TIME.
ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER SPENDING $20 MILLION ON THE COURTHOUSE? IF'S NOT NEEDED.
IF IT'S NOT NEEDED, WHY DO IT? BUT WAS THE I REVENUES AND THING WAS WORTH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REDUCE YOUR TAXES BY HAVING REVENUE CAPS? AND THEY SAID, AND THEY SAID WHOEVER WAS THAT WE HAD 86% OF, UH, POSITIVE FOR THAT.
I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
WELL, Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, WHEN IT WAS CREATED, IT WAS ON THE BALLOT.
ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE TAX RELIEF AMENDMENT TO THE STATE CONSTITUTION? OH, THAT WAS IT.
THAT'S HOW, THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE VOTED ON, WAS TAX RELIEF AMENDMENT TO THE STATE CONSTITUTION.
THEY DIDN'T TELL THEM THAT WE'RE GONNA CREATE THIS WHOLE NEW ANIMAL, IT'S GONNA COST YOU A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
THEY DIDN'T TELL THEM THAT FAVOR, THAT TAX RELIEF AMENDMENT, HUH? TWO, I THINK WAS THE REAL REASON.
I SIGNED UP COMING BACK OUT THE LAST DAY.
STATE ASSOCIATION I SIGNED UP.
ANYTHING HAPPEN THIS WEEK? CRANDALL COTTON FESTIVAL IS CLOSE.
WHAT IS PARADE LINE BE? SATURDAY MORNING SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK TO ADJOURN.
I GOT QUESTION FOR YOU, JUDGE.