* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] FATHER, WE THINK HE APPROVED AS AN OPPORTUNITY OF GOING TOGETHER TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US IN A FAVOR AND GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AS WE SEE THEM TODAY. WE THANK HE FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT THOU HAVE GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND, UH, PLEASE LOOK, UH, LOOK, UH, ON FAVOR WITH OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY PUT THEM IN THEMSELVES AND HARM'S WAY. I BRING THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I THANKFULLY, FOR A BEAUTIFUL DAY LIKE TODAY, UH, ALL THIS WE ASK, IN JESUS NAME, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION OF GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE AN INDIVISIBLE, UH, NOTHING IN RETAIN. JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN GOING TO PRESENT THE TREASURY'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER MINUTES. WHAT WOULD I DO? KEEP Y'ALL KEEPING ME ON MY, SEE, I COVERED IT UP. LET'S TALK ABOUT ANYBODY GOT ANY PROBLEM WITH THEY'RE KEN, I, WE'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AND KEN WILL SECOND ALL IN SAY A MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. YEAH. JOHNNY, THAT'S NOT SO PRETTY. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THIS TIME OF YEAR'S, A LOT MORE FIND OUR BILLS TAX. I NEED THAT YOU DO, UH, TODAY, ALL YOUR HONOR, THE, UH, MONTHLY REPORT. NEED A MOTION ON THAT? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR. ALL IN FAVOR? I. A MOTION CARRIES NOW YOUR QUARTERLY REPORT. IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY. THERE. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH JOHNNY? I DON'T. IF YOU DO NOT, THEN WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT RECORDING MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIES, UH, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE INVESTMENT REPORT. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE INVESTMENT REPORT OR ANY SPECIFIC THING YOU WANNA POINT OUT? JOHNNY? NO. I SENT Y'ALL A COPY. I THINK OF THE INFORMATION WE GOT FROM, UH, ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR ASSETS HERE. YEAH, IT'S NOT MARKED. IT'S NOT ALL IN GENERAL MOTORS OR, OR 30 DOWN TO 19. THAT OUT. I DO THAT. COMMISSIONER THE MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER SECONDS. ALL TO SAY, AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. TAKE IT. IS THAT WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO? JACK WAS PUT IT UP 30 DAYS? YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TABLE THAT AND REBID IT AT A, UH, LATER DATE. UH, SO I ALSO LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, REJECT THESE BIDS AND I'LL RETURN THEM UN OPEN TO THE VENDORS. OKAY. HOW MANY BIDS DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE THREE, SIR. OKAY. AND THEN WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO REJECT THE THREE BIDS SUBMITTED. SO ON, UH, THE LABOR MATERIALS AND INSTALLATION FOR DEFENSE PRECINCT THREE, [00:05:01] AND TO REBI AT A LATER DAY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN A MOTION. CARRIES. NONE OF MINE WENT UP. NO. YOUR NAME. EXCUSE ME, ANGIE. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, DISCUSSED. CONSIDER PURCHASING A COMPLETE SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. OKAY. UH, JUDGE, THIS IS A, UH, SOLID PACKAGE THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE OFF THE DIR STATE TEXAS CONTRACT. AND I'M GONNA HAND THIS OFF TO JOE. LAST MINUTE NEGOTIATIONS AND CHANGES THAT HE'S AWARE OF. I'LL GET BEHIND. I'VE GOT CLOSE TO AL. I NEED ALL THE PROTECTION I CAN GET. UH, GENTLEMEN, FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN IN SEARCH FOR REPLACEMENT SOFTWARE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT NOT ONLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT FOR [00:10:01] ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS. WE DISPATCHED FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS. AND UNDER THE SHERIFF'S LEADERSHIP, WHAT HE HAD DONE WAS PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF WHAT WE CALL SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. WE TOOK THE BEST FOLKS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THEIR AREAS SUCH AS DISPATCH, JAIL FUNCTION, PATROL, AND SO ON. HE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF A BUNCH OF GUYS LED BY LIEUTENANT ERNIE PETTA IN FOR A YEAR. UM, WE HAVE LOOKED AT JUST ABOUT EVERY SOFTWARE APPLICATION POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD USE OUT THERE. UH, WE ARRANGED FOR TRIPS TO SITE VISITS. WE'VE LOOKED AT THE STUFF IN OPERATION, AND AFTER A YEAR OF, UH, CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND A LOT OF WORK, AND I WOULD THINK A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE, I BELIEVE WE'VE ARRIVED AT A VENDOR THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH. OUR PLAN IS TO REPLACE OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE, BUT WE ARE ALSO REPLACING THE CAD, THE MOBILE, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN THE CAR. SO THAT AFFECTS THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE DISPATCH FOR IS COUNTER OF PRICEY, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO REPLACE WHAT WE HAVE AND PHASE IT IN IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET. UH, WE HAVE A QUOTE ON THE TABLE AT THIS TIME IN THIS YEAR, WE WOULD SPEND 125,000 FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THE PRICE IS 4 8 9 9 19 PER YEAR. WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING OVER 200,000 TO OUR CURRENT VENDOR. AND WE'RE ALSO PAYING FOR SUPPORT FOR CAD AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. AND THE AMOUNT IN THOSE, UH, FIVE YEARS AFTER THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE THAN WE'RE PAYING AT THIS TIME. BUT OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET THE DATA CONVERSION DONE AND GO LIVE. SO IT WON'T AFFECT, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL. AND, UM, WE RECEIVED ANOTHER QUOTE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HAL OVER THE LAST, UH, WEEK. UH, WE'VE HAD A FEW QUOTES ON THE TABLE. WE'VE HAD TO CHANGE AND MODIFY THEM. UH, WE'VE HAD TO GO IN AND ADJUST THE FIGURES A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE SURE TO PICK UP ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS WE DISPATCHED FOR. AND THE LAST QUOTE WE RECEIVED WAS SATURDAY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE TODAY. ALRIGHT. UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I KNOW YOU WENT OVER COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WILL THIS DO WHAT YOU ANTICIPATED TO DO? I MEAN, I DON'T, I'D HATE TO SEE US BUY SOFTWARE PACKAGE AND THEN SIX MONTHS INTO IT AND SAYS, OH MY GOODNESS, IT'S NOT DOING THIS OR IT'S NOT DOING THAT. AND WE SPENT AND OBLIGATED OURSELVES FOR HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. THAT'S A, WHEN IT'S NOT DOING WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THAT'S A VERY SERIOUS CONCERN. AND TO, I THINK, TO SOLVE THAT, I THINK THAT THE SHERIFF DID IS BY PUTTING TOGETHER THE FOLKS THAT HE DID, UM, LIEUTENANT WARNOCK AN EXAMPLE, HE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH ANOTHER, HE'S RETIRED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. HE WAS ON BOARD. UH, WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS ON BOARD AND WE WENT OUT TO SITE VISITS. WE WENT TO BENTON COUNTY, ARKANSAS, AND WE SPENT TIME WITH THOSE FOLKS. YOU KNOW, WE SAW THEIR OPERATION INSIDE, WE SAW THEIR OPERATION OUTSIDE, AND THAT WAS LAST JANUARY. SO EVEN FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, WE STILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT MANY OTHER VENDORS. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MY DECISION, IT'S NOT ANY ONE PERSON'S DECISION, BUT IT'S A COLLABORATIVE, YOU KNOW, TEAM THAT WORKED TOGETHER ON THIS FOR OVER A YEAR. SO BASED ON THAT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK HERE. ALRIGHT. IS IT GONNA AFFECT THE, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THE PEOPLE? ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE UP THEIR PROGRAMS ANY TO UH, WELL, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE PROVIDING ACCESS TO OUR, SEE, WE DISPATCH FOR THEM ANYWAY. THEY DON'T HAVE PROGRAMS. THEY, THEY ALL WORK THROUGH US HERE. OKAY. YEAH. WE, SO NOT ONLY ARE WE DOING IT FOR US, WE'RE DOING IT FOR ALL THESE OTHER FOLKS TOO. ALRIGHT. AND WE'RE MORE, WE'RE, THERE'S MORE INTEROPERABILITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF A, YOU KNOW, A SERIOUS ISSUE IN THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WHERE COMMUNICATIONS IS MUCH BETTER, WE'RE EFFICIENT. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, OUR CURRENT VENDOR OVER A YEAR AGO, UH, WANTED TO COME IN AND RENEGOTIATE A SEVEN YEAR CONTRACT. UM, THE JUDGE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T WANT US TO DO THAT. AND WE KIND OF, UH, TALKED BACK AND FORTH. THEY WERE GONNA COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS FOR US, AND IT JUST KIND OF FELL APART. AND SINCE THAT TIME, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD THE LEVEL OF, UH, SUPPORT THAT WE DID WHEN THEY WERE TIED TO A CONTRACT. AND SHERIFF MAY SPEAK TO THAT. AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS WE'VE OUTGROWN OUR, OUR CURRENT PROVIDER BECAUSE THEY JUST DO NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT US ANYMORE. THEY'VE GOT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE TECHNICAL DEPARTMENT. AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS THAT WE'VE BEEN TELLING 'EM WHAT WE WANT. THEY'VE BEEN DEVELOPING THAT CHARGING DEPARTMENT. WE'VE BEEN TESTING IT [00:15:01] FOR 'EM, AND THEY GONNA SELL THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE. SO WE'RE KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GUINEA PIG ON THIS STUFF. BUT, UH, THE, TO GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, JUDGE, UH, THIS HAS BEEN AN OVERRIDING CONCERN, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE IT WAS IN JAIL. YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY. AND, YOU KNOW, I, TO THE DEGREE OF CERTAINTY THAT I CAN, I THINK THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY WELL EXHAUSTED THIS, THIS, UH, RESEARCH AND LOOKED AT THIS. AND, AND I THINK THAT, THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO TO IS OBVIOUSLY WE WILL, WE WILL GET THE UPGRADES EVERY YEAR AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO STAY CURRENT WITH IT. AND OF COURSE, THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS IS THEN FIVE OR SIX YEARS WE'RE GONNA OWN IT. SO OUR, OBVIOUSLY OUR, ALL WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS MAINTENANCE COSTS AFTER THAT. UH, BUT THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE THINGS ARE, ARE VERY TECHNICAL AND, AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES ON JUST LIKE THIS. WE'VE HAD THIS SNAFU ON THE, THE PRICING WHERE THE LICENSING FOR EACH ONE OF THESE, THEY DON'T DO SITE LICENSE. THEY WANT AN INDIVIDUAL LICENSE FOR EVERY ELEMENT WE HAVE. AND WHEN WE WENT BACK TO THEM AND SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IN HERE, AND WE HAD TO PUT A LITTLE BIT IN THERE, OBVIOUSLY FOR GROWTH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO BE, UH, MAXED OUT TODAY. WE START THIS, UH, I THOUGHT THEY, THAT HP, WHO IS ACTUALLY WHO WE'RE TYING TRYING TO ON THIS FOR THE STATE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THEIR, UH, MARKUP ON IT WAS, WAS EXORBITANT. AND, UH, I STILL KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT IS. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, THAT'S MAYBE THE TRAP WE'RE IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW. THE NEXT QUESTION, UH, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE, OUR, OUR COUNTY'S BEEN SO FAR ADVANCED IN TECHNOLOGY THAT ACTUALLY IN ANY COUNTY OF THE STATE, I THINK, BUT PARTICULARLY THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND DOWN, CAN YOU RECALL WHEN WE STARTED INTO, UH, THE NEW PHASE OF COMMUNICATION FOR THE INTER INTERLOCAL OR INTER INTER MOBILE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE OTHER COUNTY, WE WERE SO FAR ADVANCED THAT, THAT THEY, WE HAD TO STOP OURS, LET THEM GET CAUGHT UP INSTEAD OF US DOING GOING FORWARD, LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, HOW IS IT GOING TO WORK IN WITH SAY, DALLAS COUNTY OR IS IT, UH, THERE, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, MASSIVE, UH, MASS DESTRUCTION AND MASSIVE, UH, HURRICANE AND WIPES OF COMPANIES OUT OR WHATEVER. WHEN WE COME IN, UH, AND WANT TO COORDINATE WITH DALLAS COUNTY ARLINGTON, UH, IS IT THIS PROGRAM, WELL, THIS FIND, OR IS IT GONNA BE SO SOPHISTICATED THAT WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH DALLAS COUNTY OR S COUNTY? WELL, THAT'S REALLY A, THAT'S REALLY A PROJECT 25 COMMUNICATION RADIO COMMUNICATIONS ISSUE. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. WE'RE, WE'RE SIMPLY DEALING TODAY WITH SOFTWARE COMPUTERATED DISPATCH, JAIL MANAGEMENT, AND ALL THE THINGS WE DO IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND ALL THE THINGS WE DO IN PATROL CARS AND FIRE TRUCKS, NOT RADIO. P 25 RADIO IS A WHOLE SEPARATE ISSUE. ALRIGHT? SO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH, IN THE CASE OF A MASS DISASTER, US COMMUNICATING WITH DALLAS COUNTY. NO, BUT, AND ADDED BENEFIT HERE IS WE'RE GONNA BE ON THE SAME PAGE. AND WHAT, WHAT THE VENDOR WE'RE TALKING TO IS GONNA DO IS GONNA PROVIDE THE SOFTWARE TO THE SMALLER AGENCIES. AND FORNEY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY ON IT. SO WE'RE ALREADY INTERACT WITH THEM. THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTY WHO WON'T BE ON IT IS TERRIBLE. OKAY. NOW MY NEXT QUESTION IS, YOU REMEMBER TWO, THREE MONTHS AGO, UH, THERE WAS THIS PROPOSITION THAT USED TO DURING BUDGET TIME WHERE, UH, UH, Y'ALL HAD DISCUSSED WITH US, UH, GOING OF THIS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM THAT WAS GONNA COST US ABOUT A MILLION A YEAR. IS THAT, DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS? I MEAN, ARE WE GONNA DO THIS HALF MILLION YEAR AND INCOME BAG HAS TO SPEND ANOTHER MILLION YEAR ON THIS OTHER COMMUNICATION DEAL? UH, THE TWO ARE UNRELATED. AND I THINK WHAT THE SHERIFF HAS DONE IS HE'S AGAIN, PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF FOLKS TO DO MORE EXHAUSTIVE RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHAT THE BEST OPPORTUNITY IS. WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY SOLD ON ANY ONE AT THIS POINT. AND WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE ALL AVENUES. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING. THE COMMUNICATIONS IS HOMELAND SECURITY STUFF, RIGHT? THIS, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DAY IS OUR DAY TO DAY OPERATION AND, AND JUST RUNNING THE, OUR OPERATION AND DAY TO DAY, RUNNING THE JAIL, RUNNING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, THE SMALL AGENCIES WE DISPATCH FOR CONSTABLES AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? WHAT AND WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE THERE. WHAT I DON'T, WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, OKAY, IT COST US 125,000 THIS YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS BUDGET, BUT NEXT YEAR IT'S GONNA COST HALF MILLION. [00:20:01] WE GOTTA COME UP WITH THAT HALF MILLION AND PUT IN THE BUDGET. NOW WHAT IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO THIS OTHER COMMUNICATIONS DEAL? IT COST IS ABOUT A MILLION A YEAR. UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA DO THIS 500,000 A YEAR WITH THIS VOTE AND THEN BE ASKED TO DO ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR NEXT YEAR? WE DON'T KNOW IN A, IN A CYCLE WHEN I'M TELLING EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A DOWNTURN AND NOT HAVE ANY EXTRA MONEY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF MY, I'M JUST A QUESTION. WELL, IT IS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION, JUDGE. THERE ARE TWO UNRELATED ISSUES AND WE'RE STILL PURSUING P 25 COMPLIANCE AND WHERE OUR COSTS WOULD BE. WHILE WE DID HAVE A 900, 800 MEGAHERTZ OPTION THERE SINCE WE LAST TALKED, WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE IT AND ARE LOOKING AT MORE OPPORTUNITIES. WE'VE MET WITH TWO VENDORS THIS PAST WEEK TO LOOK AT MORE OTHER OPTIONS. THAT MAY BE MORE, THE BIG PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THAT IS THAT ON THE COMMUNICATION SIDE, THAT'S ALL BEING DRIVEN BY HOMELAND SECURITY. AND WE HAVE VERY LITTLE INPUT INTO THAT. AND OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES RIGHT NOW ARE GOING TO DALLAS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY'RE THE BIG DOG IN, IN THE YARD HERE. AND, UH, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT ANY RESOURCES ON THAT. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, ONCE THEY TELL US WHAT EXACTLY WE HAVE TO DO, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO YET, I DON'T THINK, BECAUSE THAT CHANGES ALL TIME. BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT OBVIOUSLY WHEN THEY TELL US THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, THEY'RE GOING MAKE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE ON THAT, WHICH IS WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST. NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL WE HOPE THERE WILL, BUT, UH, YEAH, THEY SAID IT FORT WORTH THAT THERE WAS, THERE'S ALREADY SOME GRANT AND THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE FOR THAT GRANT. THINK KATHY MENTIONED TOO, WE'RE, BUT NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO GET TO IT YET. SO, UH, BUT YES, WE, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT I THINK IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE WE WILL HAVE TO FUND, UH, AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE FUNDED. I DON'T KNOW, GEORGE, DO WE HAVE ONGOING COST IN THIS SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY? THE SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY, WE FOR 20 YEARS OR MORE HAVE PAID THE SAME FEE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER. THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS, AFTER FIVE YEARS, YOU OWN IT. YEAH. AND WHILE THERE'LL BE AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AFTER THAT, YOU DON'T PAY THESE BIG FIGURES EVERY YEAR LIKE WE HAVE FOR THE PAST 20 SOME ODD YEARS. NOT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID A TERRIBLE THING. WE, WE ENJOYED A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH GSA FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S JUST THAT HOW HAVE WE HAD THIS ONE IN PLACE? WHAT WE HAVE TODAY? YEAH. OVER 20 YEARS. OKAY. WE LONG BEFORE MY TIME. SO IF THIS OTHER ONE WOULD LAST US 20 YEARS, WE WOULD BE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE THERE. IT'D BE OLD ENOUGH TO VOTE, WOULD IT? FIVE YEARS WOULDN'T BE HAPPEN. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M WELL, WE'LL UPGRADE. YEAH. THE BENEFIT TO IT IS YOU GET THE ANNUAL UPDATES, OUR TAX SOFTWARE THROUGH TIES. WE OUGHT HAVE PAY THOSE OUTBACK. WE'RE NOT, YOU PAY ANNUAL MAINTENANCE. SO LEMME LET, JUST, LET'S TALK, LET'S ADDRESS THAT. WHEN WE BOUGHT TYLER TECHNOLOGY COURSE, WE WERE FIVE YEARS OR 7, 5, 5 YEARS. SO FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, WE PAY THIS MUCH AFTER FIVE YEARS IT GOES LIKE THIS. BUT OUR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE CONTINUES ON AND YOU ENJOY CURRENT, NOT ONLY LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, BUT ANY, THE UPGRADES THEY HAVE FROM THEN ON BY THAT ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, WHAT WAS THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEE? NOT MUCH. SO THAT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT MODEL. SOME, SOME VENDORS, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN VENDORS, SOFTWARE VENDORS SOLD A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AND PAID YOU THIS MUCH FOREVER. UM, WE BEGAN IN 2002 WHEN WE WENT TAX AND FINANCIALS TO TYLER, GOING AWAY FROM THAT MODEL, WE'RE GONNA PURCHASING IT, REDUCING THE COST DOWN TO AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEE AFTER ABOUT FIVE YEARS AND CONTINUING ON, THAT'S HOW WE DID IT WITH OUR TAX. WE WENT TO TRUE AUTOMATION, SAME MODEL AND WITH OUR POLICY COURT. SO THE SOFTWARE WE RUN FOR OUR COURTS, DID WE LOOK INTO LEASE IN THIS PROGRAM AT ALL? DID WE THINK ABOUT THAT? UM, THAT IS NOT AN OPTION. I DON'T HAVE A, AN ONGOING THING, BUT IF IT GOT OUTDATED, THEN YOU COULD BAIL OUT OF IT AND GET SOMETHING DOWN. WELL, I UNDERSTAND. ONCE WE OWN IT AND THEY CONTINUE TO PAY IT, WE CONTINUE TO PAY THAT ANNUAL MAINTENANCE. YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. YOU, YOU WOULD CONTINUE. THE ONLY GOOD ADVANTAGE IS YOU BAIL OUT OF IT IF IT GETS OUTDATED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT WON'T DO THEY, THEY UPDATED ANNUALLY. THAT'S PART, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE PROGRAM. ALL THIS COMPUTER STUFF HAS TO BE UPDATED, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN OUR COMPUTERS, WE'RE HAVING, IF YOU REMEMBER THIS YEAR, WE'VE GOT SOME MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO REPLACE COMPUTERS BECAUSE THE COMPUTERS ARE TOO SLOW TO HANDLE THE NEW TECHNOLOGY. YOU KNOW, SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL HARDWARE GETS BEHIND TOO. YEAH. WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TYLER ON JUST ABOUT EVERY OFF COUNTY OPERATION EXCEPT FOR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SAW ONE OF THEM HAD GSA IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. RIGHT. AND, UM, OKAY, IS THERE, [00:25:01] YOU GOT A CONTRACT YET FOR THIS? WE, WE WERE GONNA BRING IT BEFORE THE COURT WITH THE PRICING OPTION. BEFORE WE HAD CONTRACT SIGNED. LIKE I SAID, CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, WE ABLE TO LOOK OVER IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S LIKE THE LAST LITTLE WE HAVE WITH COMPUTERS WITH WHEN THEIR TAX THING MM-HMM . IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IT, BUT IT DIDN'T DO IT. SO HAVE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PERFORMANCE CLAUSES AND SOME ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE CONTRACT SO THAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEY GONNA MAKE IT WORK. YEAH. THEY MAY WANT SEE LIKE THIS, THE, THE TAXES IS WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO. YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY KNEW FOR EIGHT MONTHS THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AND THEY DIDN'T RESOLVE IT. YEAH. BUT THEY RESOLVED IT IN ONE DAY WHEN THEY GOT A PHONE CALL. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONTRACT HAS SOME PUNISHMENT IN THERE TO THE SOFTWARE COMPANY OR SOME RELIEF FROM US IF IT'S NOT GONNA DO WHAT IT SAYS. ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, I THINK IS, IS Y'ALL GIVING US PERMISSION TO GO FORWARD TO EXPLORE THIS PRICING OPTION MORE? AND THEN WE'LL GET THE CONTRACT IF WE WANT TO GO TO THAT, AND THEN WE'LL BE INTO THAT PHASE. BUT THIS, THIS IS, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT TO GO PURCHASE THE ENGINE TODAY. IT'S TO GIVE US THE, UH, THE AUTHORITY TO GO FORWARD AND SEE IF WE, WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THIS AND THEN, THEN GET THEM TO PUT THAT ON PAPER FOR US. AND THAT LOOK THE CONTRACT, WE NEED THIS AGENDA ITEM AND THEN IT'S WRITTEN. IT'S WRITTEN TO PURCHASE. YEAH, IT'S WRITTEN TO PURCHASE IT. UH, IT CONSIDERING PURCHASING A COMPLETE SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR CARBON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPART. SO, UH, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO, UM, GIVE Y'ALL PERMISSION TO EXPLORE, WELL, YOU CAN EXPLORE IT WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION. WELL, WE'VE DONE IT FOR OVER A YEAR. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. EXPLORED. SO I THINK WE'LL TABLE UNTIL YOU GET THE DEAL DONE AND THEN COME BACK AND PUT THIS, PUT IT, WE NEED A CONTRACT TO BRING TO YOU. SO YOU WANT A CONTRACT READY TO GO THAT YOU CAN REVIEW YEAH. BASED ON THIS PRICING MODEL. WELL, BASED ON WHATEVER I MEAN WITH THAT ONE OR THE ONE THAT YOU'RE STILL NEGOTIATING OR WHAT, I THINK THE POINT IS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE BUYING. UH, AND YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YET. SO WE'LL TRY TO GET A CONTRACT TO YOU BEFORE WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THEN NEXT TIME EVERYBODY WE LEGAL LOOK AT, THEN WE GET LEGALS. OKAY. CAN WE GET SOME NUMBERS BEFORE IN OUR PACK BEFORE WE GET TO YEAH, IF GEORGE TOLD, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO, UH, WELL THIS CAME IN SATURDAY. YEAH. WE HAD ONE QUOTE. WE'RE GONNA TABLE THE WHOLE THING AND THEN SATURDAY WE'LL, WE'LL GET A PACKET TOGETHER, A CONTRACT FOR YOU BEFORE WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN WE CAN SEND IT OUT AND LET 'EM REVIEW EVERYTHING AND UH, THEN WE'LL SEND IT TO LEGAL ALSO AND GIVE THEM PLENTY OF TIME TO REVIEW IT. YES SIR. THANK YOU. MAY BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. SECOND IS BY COMMISSIONER TO TABLE THAT ITEM TODAY, AND THEN WHEN WE GET THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. ONLY MOTION. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON ADDEND, UH, ADDENDUM. ADDENDUM, SON TOOK ME OUT TO, DID A BUMP SATURDAY NIGHT. , HE STEPPED OUT. YEAH. UH, LET'S SEE. WE'RE GOING TO, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER DESIGNING A REPRESENT, OH, DESIGNATE DESIGNATED, UH, DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE TO MEET WITH THE NY CITY OF NY CONCERNING THE PROPOSED TAX INCOME AND FINANCIAL LEASE ZONE. REINVESTMENT ZONE. UM, I WAS GOING TO SAY PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE MR. LER OR SOMEBODY I GOTTA THINK, PROBABLY OUGHT BE MR. CLARK. HE'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. HE LOT OF EXPERIENCE. I CAN STILL NOW. OKAY, . THAT'S A MOTION. THAT IS A MOTION MR. WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. RAY WILL HATE ME EVER SINCE COMMISSIONER WILL SECOND IT. AND THAT'S TO THE POINT. CLARK HAS KENNEDY'S REPRESENTATIVE TO CONCERN INVESTMENT ZONE. THE ONLY FAVOR CARRIES. CONGRATULATIONS. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR. OH, THOSE THAT OPPOSED. UH, NEXT WE WANT DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACKNOWLEDGE AND AUTHORIZATION TO USE THE [00:30:01] TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS OF 95,006 18. AND I HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION, UH, PRIOR TO THE, UH, MEETING STARTED ABOUT SOME OF THE AWARDING THAT IS ON THERE THAT COMES FROM THAT RESOLUTION AND THAT'S AND UH, UH, I KNEW THAT WAS GONNA BE A CONCERN, UH, TO AN EXTENT, BUT, UM, THAT'S JUST DON'T, THEY'VE GOT THAT IN ON. ANY TIME YOU GET ANY OF THESE FEDERAL GRANTS AND WOULD'VE DONE THIS, THE LAW ALREADY PROHIBITS THAT ANYWAY. YEAH, WE CAN'T USE ACCESSIBLE FORCE. AND AS LONG AS SOMEONE'S NOT VIOLATING THE LAW, UH, WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO REMOVE THEM. THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING. YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKET. I DO. BUT THIS IS, HE'S TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. HE'S THAT RESOLUTION, RIGHT? NO, THIS GRANT FUNDS. NO, THIS IS GRANT. WELL, I THOUGHT YOU RESOLUTION TIED TO THAT ONE. DAMN. MIGHT ONE. WELL, OKAY. Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT THE EXCESSIVE FORCE RESOLUTION. YEAH. THE GRANT FUNDS. THE GRANT FUNDS. THERE WASN'T ON GRANT FUNDS. UHUH. NO, NO. I SAYS WE HAVE TO USE IT. WE'VE MARKED EXPEND THIS MONEY ON THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS. WE, THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST GRANT WE GOT WAS, UH, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. OKAY. THIS GRANT TAKES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THAT DOES AND WHAT WE HAVE. WHAT WE HAVE NOW. YOU SEE WHERE THE MONEY'S TO BE SPENT THERE. ANYBODY WANT THAT? GOT 40 MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROW. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. MOTION CARRIED. HE CALLED HIM THREE TIMES. HE, YOU KNOW, HE SAID IT WOULD BE HERE IN OCTOBER. SHOULD BE HERE IN NOVEMBER. NO. UH, NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, APPROVING, PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF TERRO TO PLACE RECYCLING CONTAINERS IN COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED EIGHT EAST TIDE IN CATON COUNTY. THREE. SAINT NUMBER THREE. OKAY, LEMME GIVE, UH, LET'S, UH, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU. THIS IS, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE GRANT THAT WE HAVE FOR, UM, BOTH, WE'VE GOT TWO GRANTS. WE'VE GOT ONE FOR THE CITY OF TER AND ONE FOR THE COUNTY ON DROP OFF STATIONS. AND WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN WORKING WITH THESE, BOTH OF THESE GRANTS IS THAT WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER IS, HAS BEEN, UH, A REALLY GOOD THING IN PRECINCT THREE. AND SO WHAT WHAT I'M ASKING IS, UM, FOR THE CITY ON THE CITY'S BEHALF THAT WE BE ABLE TO USE THE LOCATION, IT'S ON THE CORNER OF NORTH DEL DELPHINE AND, UH, EAST HIGH STREETS AND IT IS A CORNER OF THE SUB COURTHOUSE PARKING LOT THAT COMMISSIONER SHANE HAS, UM, SAID IS NOT USED MUCH. IT'S IN A FAIRLY GOOD LOCATION AS FAR AS WE WANTED SOMEPLACE THAT PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO, TO PULL UP AND BE ABLE TO, UH, DROP OFF THEIR RECYCLABLES. AND BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AT THE COURTHOUSE, UM, IT WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP. SO WE WOULD HAVE BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY LOGOS, YOU KNOW, UP ON THE SIGN AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE CAN USE THAT SITE. UM, MAINLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY START WORKING ON THE 4 29 SITE FOR PRECINCT THREE QUITE YET BECAUSE IT'S, WE HAVEN'T STARTED WORKING ON IT YET. SO THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD, UM, LOCATION WE FEEL LIKE THAT EVERYBODY COULD ACCESS. UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE CONTAINERS OUT OF THE CURRENT CONVENIENCE STATION THEN ON THREE 19 AND WE'LL BRING THEM UP INTO TOWN. SO THERE WON'T BE RECYCLING AT THAT CONVENIENCE STATION, UM, ANY LONGER. AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS FROM THE CITIZENS. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. UM, SO WE'RE ASKING THAT WE BE ABLE TO USE THIS PROPERTY. UM, IT ALL IT WOULD BE FOR IS A SIGN AND, UH, THE CONTAINERS TO BE ABLE TO SIT ON IT [00:35:01] AND THE GRANT PAY FOR THE PAD. YEAH, WELL, THE GRANT WILL PAY FOR THE EXTRA ASPHALT THAT IT'S ALREADY KIND OF GOT A SURFACE FOR DRIVING, BUT WE NEED TO BEAT IT UP A LITTLE BIT. THE CONTAINERS PUTTING THE ASPHALT DOWN THE PARKING LOT. BUT ANYWAY, UH, WHAT THIS DOES IS MOVES IN CLOSE TO CONTAINERS THAT THEY HAVE OUT OF THE LANDFILL UP IN THE TOWN, MORE CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE. PEOPLE SEEM TO BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO, UH, AND MARYLAND HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF WORKING ON THIS IN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY AND US TALKING ABOUT THIS. YEAH, WE WANT IT TO WORK. I DON'T WANNA START ANYTHING THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK. YOU CAN'T START IT AND STOP IT AND START IT AGAIN. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. SO WHEN WE DO IT, IT HAS TO BE RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THAT MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION. CARRIE. THANK YOU MARILYN, FOR WORKING ON THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, HE'S BEEN EXTREMELY GOOD WORK WITH US WHEN IT COMES TO MEETING, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKEN CARE OF. YES, YES. IS THERE ANY WHILE I'M HERE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY ELSE ABOUT ANY OF THE RECYCLING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON? NO. AFTER THE PROJECT ON 4 29 GETS ROLLING, YOU'RE GONNA MOVE IT OUT THERE? OH YES. I MEAN WE'RE GONNA, ARE DOING ANYTHING DOWNTOWN OR IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'LL STAY. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE SECTION SITE, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK TO, WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD PLAN FOR PRECINCT TWO. AND I FOUND SOME TRAILERS THAT ARE MOVABLE TRAILERS AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE RECYCLING COORDINATOR THAT GOES AROUND AND HE COULD ACTUALLY PULL THOSE TRAILERS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, THEY HAVE SLOTS WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST PUT THE PRODUCTS INTO THE SLOTS. UM, BUT THEY'VE GOT THESE BIG CUBIC YARD CONTAINERS THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THEM AND EMPTIED. AND I DON'T HAVE A FORKLIFT LIFT. SO, YOU KNOW, I, WE, WE WERE GONNA HAVE A HAND LIFT, BUT I DIDN'T PUT MONEY IN THE GRANT FOR A EXPENSIVE FORKLIFT. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M A LITTLE BIT TRAPPED ON HOW I'M GONNA DO THIS. BUT, UM, I ALSO HAVE A PERSON THAT I'M TALKING TO IN CALIFORNIA THAT MIGHT HAVE A BETTER TRAILER. SO I'M JUST, RIGHT NOW WHAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO IS GO AHEAD AND PUT ONE OF THE CONTAINERS THAT LIKE YOU HAVE OUT AT THE COMMUNITY STATION THAT DENTON GAVE US. GONNA PUT ONE OF THOSE OUT AND WE'LL JUST PUT ALL OF THE RECYCLABLES COMMINGLED AND TAKE THEM TO GREEN STAR. UM, THEY HAVE A MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY IN GARLAND AND THEY'LL, WE JUST, YEAH, THROW 'EM OUT ON THE FLOOR AND THEY'LL BE PROCESSED RIGHT AWAY. SO THAT'S OUR INTERIM, YOU KNOW, THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT I DON'T WANNA PUT A CONTAINER THERE AND THEN SAY THIS ISN'T WORKING. WE HAVE TO STOP IT BECAUSE PEOPLE GET, PEOPLE REALLY WANT THE SERVICE AND WHEN WE START IT, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO STOP IT. I REALLY FEEL THAT'S IMPORTANT. UM, YOU MIGHT GET A PRICE ON THE FORKLIFT IF YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, TO MOVE THINGS AROUND. TO MOVE THINGS AROUND. YOU MIGHT WANNA GET A PRICE ON IT. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO USED ONE EVEN, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST, I'LL I'LL WORK ON THAT. WE WORK WITH JACK AND UH, THEN EACH ONE MIGHT BE WILLING TO GIVE UP FIVE OR 10. YEAH, WELL IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE TRAILER HAS A REAL ADVANTAGE. THE TRAILER HAS ADVANTAGES THAT WE CAN TAKE IT TO. WE COULD HAVE HAD IT AT SCARECROW AND WE COULD HAVE HAD IT OUT HERE SO THAT THE COMMUNITY, LIKE ALL THESE PEOPLE COULD HAVE PUT THEIR PLASTIC BOTTLES AND CANS IN THERE. UM, WE CAN USE IT FOR EVENTS ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND THAT WOULD BE A REAL PLUS BECAUSE THAT WOULD START GETTING PEOPLE MORE. THEY SEE IT AND THEY SEE SOMETHING MORE AWARENESS. WE COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE SET UP RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND HAD PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD'VE ASKED US IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A NOVELTY. AND WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, THIS TRAILER IS, THERE IS NOT ONE OF THESE TRAILERS ANYWHERE WITHIN MAYBE FIVE HOUR DRIVE IN TEXAS. SO WE WOULD BE, UM, ALSO PEOPLE WOULD COME AND LOOK AT THIS TRAILER IN THIS AREA IF WE GOT IT. SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE A REAL, YOU KNOW, NICE ADVANTAGE FOR US TO BE SHOWING OFF WHAT WE'VE GOT. IT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE LOOKING THING OPPOSED TO IT'S A GOOD LOOKING TRAILER. I, BUT IT'S VERY YEAH, BUT IT IS AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE. AND SO I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY UNTIL I KNOW THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. NO, WHY CAN YOU NOT? WHY I, MAYBE I'M [00:40:01] MISSING IT. WHY CAN'T YOU NOT USE THE ONES LIKE WE HAVE AT A CONVENIENCE STATION WHERE THE, UH, THE, UH, TRUCKS COME IN AND JUST PICK IT UP AND DUMP IT? WELL, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, WELL WHAT, OKAY, THE PLAN IS BECAUSE WE HAVE RECYCLING WITH THE CO-OP, UH, IS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RECYCLE A LOT OF THOSE MATERIALS AND WE'VE GOT YES. OKAY. AND SO WE WERE, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS WORK THIS WHOLE, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TOGETHER, FIT THE PUZZLE TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT WORKS. SO, SO YOU WANNA DO THE RECYCLING YOURSELF AND WELL, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IN 4 29, UH, MR. SHANE HAS, HAS THE COMMISSIONER SHANE HAS SAID THAT WE CAN HAVE A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY TO USE FOR RECYCLING. SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE BIG PICTURE OF BEING ABLE TO GET OUT THERE. DO YOU STILL HAVE THE BALER COMING OR IS THAT YES, IN FACT WE ALSO, AND I GUESS I I NEED TO TO TELL YOU THIS, WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT, UM, ARLINGTON ISD HAD PURCHASED A BALER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND IT'S NOT WORKING OUT. THEY HAVE WAY TOO MANY LOCATIONS AND NOT A WAY TO REALLY USE IT. SO KATHLEEN AT THE COG CALLED ME AND ASKED ME IF WE WANTED THAT ONE ALSO. AND I REALLY DIDN'T HESITATE TO SAY YES, $13,000 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. SO WE'RE TRYING ALSO TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THAT OVER HERE AND SET UP. UM, UM, SO WHAT I MIGHT DO IS GET THAT ONE FIRST AND THEN PURCHASE THE OTHER ONE AFTER WE GET OUT THERE BECAUSE I MAY HAVE TO TAKE THAT ONE EARLIER. SO WE'RE REALLY, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AND A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES. IT'S ALL OPPORTUNITY. IT'S REALLY GREAT, BUT IT'S TRYING TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND MAKE IT WORK OUT FOR THE BEST FOR, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY. WELL WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR US, WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE CITIZENS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER SO IT'LL BE THE VERY BEST FOR EVERYBODY. SO, OKAY. DID I PUT THAT TO THE VOTE? ALL AGREE. A THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY, WE'LL TRY, UM, NOW THIS NEXT ONE IS RESOLUTION THAT THE SHERIFF CANNOT PISTOL BOOK ANYBODY ELSE DOES THAT INCLUDE WELL, NO, Y'ALL ARE EXEMPT. UH, EXCESSIVE FORCE RESOLUTION, UH, RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING RULE AND REGULATIONS REGARDING THE USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE. YOU'RE NONVIOLENT CIVIL RIGHTS DEMONSTRATION, INCLUDING PHYSICALLY BARRING ENTRANCE TO A FACILITY OR LOCATION, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF SUCH DEMONSTRATIONS AND PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS THEREOF. AND THE FOLLOWING TON COUNTY SECTION ONE, IT IS POSITIVE CO COUNTY TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE BY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WITH ANY JURISDICTION AGAINST ANY INDIVIDUAL ENGAGED IN NONVIOLENT CIVIL RIGHTS DEMONSTRATION. THE COUNTY ALSO PROHIBITS THE FISCAL BARRING OF ANY INTEREST EITHER FROM SUCH FACILITY WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION. NOW IT DOESN'T SAY A SHERIFF CAN'T USE FORCE SAYS, CAN USE WHAT SAYS PHYSICALLY BARRING INTEREST. THAT SENTENCE DOES THAT, THAT SENTENCE, WOULD THAT BE LIKE PRIVATE AND PROPERTY? NO, THIS IS, UH, I THINK IT'S A FACILITY UNDER THE COUNTY JURISDICTION. IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT, EXACTLY. IT'D BE LIKE THE THE COURTHOUSE OR THE ANNEX OR RIGHT. MAYBE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EVEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DID YOU, UH, DID YOU GET SORRY, DID KATHY, I HAD HER LOOK THAT UP FOR ME. AND, UH, SHE SAYS THAT COMES FROM THE BLOCK GRANT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THIS UH, 80 BLOCK GRANT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS, THEN Y'ALL DON'T GET THAT 95,000 AND AND LIBRARIES DON'T GET THERE. IF IT COMES IN A BLACK GRANT, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT WIPES Y'ALL AROUND, BUT THE LAW AND THE, AND THE COURTROOMS ALREADY PROHIBIT EXCESSIVE FORCE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I, WELL, AND, AND PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO, TO DEMONSTRATE AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT VIOLATING THE LAW, YOU KNOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS NONVIOLENT SO OBVIOUS IF THEY GET TEARING UP PROPERTY AND THEY'RE VIOLATING THE LAW OR IF THEY COME IN DISRUPTING THE PUBLIC MEDIA AND DISRUPT THE PUBLIC MEDIA DON'T COME IN AND DISRUPT BUSINESS IN THE COURTHOUSE. YEAH. AND WE, WE, WE CAN, WELL ACTUALLY YOU ALL TO, YOU KNOW, BY RESOLUTION DESIGNATE HOW AND PUT SOME LIMITATIONS ON THAT. REASONABLE LIMITATION IS IF WE WERE HAVING AN ONGOING PROBLEM LIKE THIS. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT ONE SENTENCE, THE COUNTY ALSO PROHIBITS THE PHYSICAL BAR BARRING OF ANY ENTRANCE TO OR EXIT FROM SUCH A FACILITY WITHIN [00:45:01] ITS JURISDICTION THAT IF IT'S PEACEFUL CORPS YEAH. AND IF THEY DON'T INTERRUPT, THEY THEY HAVE STAY WITHIN THE LAW. I BELIEVE YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THEY, IF THEY WERE, SAY THEY WERE CAME IN THE COURTHOUSE AND THEY WERE TEARING UP, YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL MISCONSTRUCTION PROBLEM, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD A, AN ONGOING CRIME AND THEN IF YOU HAD A CRIME SCENE, YOU COULD BORROW IT FOR THAT. WHERE YOU DOING THE INVESTIGATION OR NOT? UH, I THINK THIS IS JUST WHAT I'M SEEING IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE AND WE'VE SAID WE'RE NOT LET YOU IN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T EXACTLY THE KEY WORD NONVIOLENT. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S THE KEY THAT NONVIOLENT, THERE'RE TRYING TO FORCE THEIR WAY IN. I WOULDN'T CONSIDER THAT NONVIOLENT. I WOULD THINK YOU ARE. WELL, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THOUGH, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING WITH WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO FORCE THEIR WAY. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IF IT'S NORMALLY GOT PUBLIC, UH, EGRESS AND INGRESS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GRANT THAT TO THEM AS LONG AS THEY STAYED WITHIN THE, AS LONG AS THEY CAME THROUGH ALL THE SECURITY THINGS, EVERYTHING. SURE. OH YEAH. THEY CAN'T, THEY COULDN'T COME THROUGH THE BACK WAY. YEAH, YOU BUT THEY, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BLOCK AN EXIT. NO, NO, THEY WOULDN'T COME IN, DEMONSTRATE IN THE HALLWAY OR WHATEVER BECAUSE YOU HAVE FIRE CODES AND YOU KNOW, NOW THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY, RIGHT? UH, JOHNNY'S PRESIDENT OF SEA CREEK COUNTRY CLUB AND JERRY'S THE PAST PRESIDENT. I'M THE PAST PRESIDENT. UH, WHEN I FIRST WENT ON THE BOARD DOWN THERE IN ABOUT 82, OR I GUESS IT WAS EIGHT TWO, UH, MY FIRST BOARD MEETING, UH, THERE WERE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE CAME OUT DEMONSTRATING THEY WERE GOING TO CHARGE THE, UH, UH, MEETING ROOM. AND, UH, BY STOPPED THEM AT THE DOOR. THEY, I WAS POINTED RIGHT ON THE SPOT THERE, SERGEANT ARMS . AND I STOPPED THEM AT THE DOOR. OF COURSE THEY THREATENED TO SUE THEY WERE GONNA DO THIS AND THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT AND THREATENED TO PHYSICALLY MOVE ME OUTTA THE WAY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T. UM, BUT THAT'S IN CONTRAST. I MEAN, THAT WAS PRIVATE. YEAH. PRIVATE ENTITY. AND WE HAD THE RIGHT TO STOP THEM FROM COMING IN AS I RECALL. JUDGE, Y'ALL MADE EVERYBODY DOWN THERE REALLY MAD. AND THEN I CAME IN NEXT YEAR ANYWAY, I, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THE CONCERNS ABOUT IT. UH, BUT LIKE I SAY, IT AFFECTS, UH, ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY. YEAH. OKAY. I'LL MAKE I'LL SECOND. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SANE CHANGE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION, CARRIE. UH, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, APPROVAL RESOLUTION ESTABLISHED IN THE COUNTY POLICY REGARDING SECTION 5 0 4 WRITTEN CITIZEN GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE. NOW, THIS IS NOT JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT YOU ESTABLISHED A PROCEDURE WHEREBY THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, THE PROCEDURE IS THEY COME TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND COMPLAIN. BUT THIS, THIS DEALS WITH VIOLATIONS OF, UM, HOUSING AUTHORITIES. UH, Y ALL READ WHAT THE RESOLUTION SAYS. PALM COUNTY HAS ADOPTED AN INTERNAL REVIEW PROCEDURE PROVIDE FOR COMP AND EQUITABLE RESOLUTION OF COMPLAINTS ALLEGING ANY ACTIONS DELIVERED BY THE US DEPARTMENT, HOUSING URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND PERMITTING SECTION 5 0 4 OF THE REHABILITATION ACT THAT SAYS IN PART THAT NO OTHERWISE QUALIFIED HANDICAPPED INDIVIDUAL SHALL SOLELY BY REASON. THIS HAND SHALL BE EXCLUDED FROM THE PARTICIPATION IN DENY THE BENEFITS OF OR BE SUBJECTED TO DISCRIMINATION UNDER ANY PROGRAM OR ACTIVITY. RECEIVING FEDERAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE COMPLAINTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO 5 0 4 COORDINATOR COUNTY JUDGE, UH, HERE, WHO HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR ANY 5 0 4 COMPLAINT EFFORTS AND COMPLAINTS SHOULD BE FILED IN WRITING OR VERBALLY CONTAIN THE NAME, ADDRESS, THE PERSON FILING IN BRIEFLY DESCRIBED, UH, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO BASICALLY THAT, THAT IS THE PROCEDURES. THERE'S NEED BE THE ONE RECEIV THE COMPLAINT, AND THEN WE START FROM COMMISSIONER MAKES THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER WILL SECOND IT. [00:50:01] ALL. YE. MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE QUARTERLY REPORT FOR LATTER CITY LEY PUBLIC LIBRARY IN COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU THIS MORNING? I'VE BEEN WORSE. I'VE BEEN BETTER. I APOLOGIZE FIRST OF ALL FOR NOT GETTING THIS TO YOU EARLY, UH, FOR INCLUSION IN YOUR PACKET. UM, I BEEN, IF YOU WOULD PASS THOSE AROUND, DID GIVE A COPY TO THE PAPER AS WELL. DO ALL OF YOU KNOW MS. BECKY ? DID YOU AND HER YOUNG ASSISTANT OVER THERE? THIS IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND, UH, IN CHARGE OF YOUTH SERVICES, JOHN , WITH A NEAT HAIRCUT. WITH A NEAT HAIRCUT. JERRY HAS ONE LINE WORKING ON, HE'S A TRENDS CENTER. UH, THIS DOES REPRESENT THE FINAL QUARTER FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR. UH, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, I WAS VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE, THE FINAL RESULTS. UH, LAST YEAR WE CIRCULATED AROUND 88,000 ITEMS SLIGHTLY OVER THAT THIS YEAR WE CIRCULATED OVER 12. SO THAT'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN, UH, SERVICES. UH, ALSO YOU'LL NOTE THAT WE HAD 286 PUBLIC PROGRAMS FOR JUVENILES AND FOUR ADULTS WITH A TOTAL, SORRY, WITH A TOTAL ATTENDANCE OF 6,327. UM, ON, DOES THIS WORK THROUGH OR WITH THE, UH, JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT OR, I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY JUVENILE PROGRAM DEFENDANT, I MEAN LIKE FOR KIDS, YOUNG PEOPLE. OKAY. YES. RIGHT. NOT, NOT SO MUCH. NOT JUVENILE PROBATION DELINQUENTS, BUT JUVENILES AS IN CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS, WE CALL THEM JUVENILE SERVICES. I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF CONFUSING FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW BECAUSE YOU THINK OF IT IN TERMS OF, UM, JUVENILE CRIMINAL SERVICE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST IS YET CHILDREN JUST JUVENILE, UM, NOT THE LIVE WITH WHAT'S NECESSARILY UM, WE COULD BE, THEY COULD BE. BUT WE HAVE, UH, WE RECEIVED 4,272 REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION THAT WE RECORDED. THIS IS A NUMBER THAT I THINK FOR ALL LIBRARIES IS HISTORICALLY UNDER RECORDED. WHEN YOU ARE REALLY BUSY AND THE PHONE'S RINGING AND YOU ARE ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOR PEOPLE AT THE FRONT DESK, IT'S QUITE COMMON FOR US TO FORGET TO RECORD THAT WE HAVE DONE. SO. UH, IF YOU'RE OUT ON THE FLOOR AND YOU'RE HELPING SOMEBODY AND SOMEBODY ELSE ASK YOU A QUESTION, YOU STOP AND YOU ANSWER IT AND YOU KEEP GOING. AND WHEN YOU GET BACK TO THE DESK AND FORGET TO MARK DOWN THE FACT THAT YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION. SO THIS NUMBER IS HISTORICALLY, I THINK FOR ALL OF US UNDER REPORTED. AND I WOULD GUESS THAT IT'S PROBABLY DOUBLE THAT. UM, AND CERTAINLY AT LEAST HALF AGAIN, WHAT, WHAT'S THERE? I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, TO KIND OF POINT OUT WITH OUR NEW REGISTRATIONS FOR THE YEAR. WE HAD 829 TERRELL RESIDENTS, 643 RESIDENTS WHO LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF TERRELL AND IN THE COUNTY AND 228 WHO LIVE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. IF YOU ADD UP THOSE FINAL TWO FIGURES, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE REGISTRATIONS FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY OF TERROLL THAN WE DID FROM INSIDE THE CITY OF TOWN. NOW AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA LET MR. PR, WHO HAS A MUCH MORE LETTER VOICE THAN MINE, TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, OUR SUMMER READING CLUB AND HOW THAT ALL THE LAST TIME WE GAVE A QUARTERLY REPORT, IT WAS IN THE SUMMER, SO WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM, BUT JUST A FEW, UH, HIGH POINTS. WE HAD ABOUT ALMOST 500, 496 REGISTERED PARTICIPANTS IN THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM. OF THAT 48% OF THOSE WERE INSIDE THE COUNTY, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER NUMBER THAN ACTUAL PATRONS, MOSTLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE ONE MOTHER THAT REGISTERS FOR A LIBRARY CARD, BUT SHE MAY HAVE THREE KIDS THAT ARE REGISTERING FOR, YOU KNOW, A SUMMER READING PROGRAM. SO, UH, IT'S AT ABOUT A 50 50 SPLIT AS FAR AS WHAT WE SERVE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS VERSUS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND LOOKING AT THE REGISTRATIONS THIS MORNING, WE LITERALLY SERVED EVERY CORNER OF THE COUNTY. WE HAD SUMMER READING KIDS REGISTER FROM KEMP, CRANDALL, FORNEY, TERRELL KAUFMAN, OBVIOUSLY THE BIG ONES, BUT ELMO, I MEAN EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AWAY IN THE COUNTY, SCURRY, ROSSER AND STILL BE IN THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, UM, ATTENDED OR REGISTERED OR PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM AT SOME POINT. UM, DURING THE SUMMER, UM, THEY LOGGED ALMOST 200,000 MINUTES OF READING. UM, TWO OF, WE GIVE A TOP READER PRIZE IN AGE LEVELS, ZERO [00:55:01] TO FIVE, SIX TO NINE, 10 TO 12. AND THEN, UM, SOME RAFFLE PRIZES THAT THEY CAN EARN. HALF OF THOSE PRIZES WERE WON BY PEOPLE THAT LIVED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, BUT INSIDE THE COUNTY. SO, UM, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO WORK ON NEXT SUMMERS 'CAUSE JUST 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO, UM, TO START BOOKING THOSE PERFORMERS AND THINGS. BUT, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD, IT WAS A GOOD YEAR AND THE ECONOMY HELPED US. IT DOESN'T HELP MOST PEOPLE, BUT WHEN TIMES ARE HARD, YOU'RE DOING THE FREE STUFF AND EVERYTHING WE'RE OFFERING IS, IS FREE. UM, SO WE'VE HAD, WE HAD A, WE HAD A GOOD SUMMER, UH, TELL THE COURT, UH, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS SURE. THAT Y'ALL HAVE WORKING, UH, AT MATERIAL. THE JUDGE ATTENDED OUR, UH, VOLUNTEER BANQUET LAST THURSDAY NIGHT. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. WE HONORED NINE OR 10 I THINK THAT WERE ACTUALLY THERE, BUT WE HAVE UPWARDS OF 2030. WELL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS. ONE OF THEM IS THE PROGRAM THAT YOU SAW WAS FOR OUR, WHAT WE CALL REGULAR VOLUNTEERS. AND THEY WORK IN THE LIBRARY DOING VARIOUS THINGS LIKE WORKING AT THE FRONT DESK, REPAIRING BOOKS, UH, GENEALOGY RESEARCH, ALL SORTS OF THINGS. THEN WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT IS ATTACHED WITH OUR WINGS PROGRAM, WHICH IS OUR ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE PROBABLY 20 PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST WINGS VOLUNTEERS AND THEY ARE TUTORS, THEY'RE INSTRUCTORS, THEY DO VARIOUS SUNDRY THINGS WITH OUR ADULT EDUCATION PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE FINALLY HAVE A THIRD PROGRAM THAT IS, UH, ASSOCIATED ENTIRELY WITH THE SUMMER READING CLUB. AND THOSE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEER IN THE SUMMERS TO HELP WITH THOSE PROGRAMS. SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS. THE ONE THAT YOU ATTENDED WAS THE REGULAR LIBRARY VOLUNTEER, AND EACH OF THOSE GROUPS HAS ABOUT 20 PEOPLE. SO IN GENERAL, I WOULD SAY WE'RE AROUND 60 AND THERE'S SOME COURSE THE OTHER LIBRARIES HAVE VOLUNTEERS TOO, CERTAINLY. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD NUMBER. GREAT. EXCEPT, I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEERING FOR THAT LIBRARY SERVICE. SO, AND YOU CAN'T RUN THE LIBRARY WITHOUT THOSE VOLUNTEERS. I MEAN, REALLY IT WOULD GRIND TO A HALT, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T GET EVERYTHING DONE WITH THE STAFF THAT YOU HAD. ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THEY HAVE HERE, THE KELTON LIBRARY, KELTON COUNTY LIBRARY IS THE ADULT SENIOR CITIZENS READING PROGRAM WHERE THEY GO AROUND TO THE NURSING HOMES AND PROVIDE, UH, YEAH, WE DOING SOME OF THAT. WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL A BOOKS ON WHEEL PROGRAM AND WE DELIVER, WE DO CUSTOMIZED, UH, PROFILES OF PATRONS IN THE VARIOUS, UH, RESIDENTIAL INSTITUTIONS, ALSO IN AN ADULT DAYCARE AND SEVERAL PLACES LIKE THAT. AND WE DELIVER MATERIALS TO THEM BASED ON THEIR PROFILE, UH, ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, DOING SOME READING PROGRAMS AS WELL AND A COUPLE OF THEM WHERE WE SIT DOWN LIKE A STORY TIME, BUT IT'S FOR D. GOOD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNTY SENT OUT, UH, SURVEYED ALL YOUR CITIZENS TO WHICH SERVICES ANTICIPATING NOW SERVICES THE COUNTY HAD TO HAVE AND THEY TOLD US, I, I WON'T FIND MORE FURTHER, BUT I DO REMEMBER ONE NUMBER, ONE OF NUMBER ONE SERVICES THEY COULD NOT DO THAT WAS LIBRARY. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING, THERE ARE A LOT OF STORY, UH, OF SURVEYS AND, UH, RESEARCH THAT'S BEEN DONE. UH, ONE I BELIEVE BY THE PEW INSTITUTE. AND IT INDICATES THAT CITIZENS ARE GENERALLY VERY HAPPY TO PAY FOR LIBRARY SERVICE. THEY'RE, THEY WOULD TAX THEMSELVES RIGHT OFF THE BAT FOR LIBRARY SERVICES AND THAT VERY OFTEN DOES NOT GET COMMUNICATED TO, UH, THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS. UH, AND I THINK THEY THINK OF IT AS SORT OF A GIVEN AND THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT THAT FOLKS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FUNDING US. THEY THINK OF LIBRARIES AS SORT OF A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT JUST KIND OF HAPPENS NOWHERE, THAT THEY'RE FREE, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY FOR THAT. THESE 228 OUT OF COUNTY PEOPLE, DO YOU ANY IDEA WHERE TRACK WHERE THEY'RE FROM, WHICH COUNTIES ARE, WOULD BE VAN AND HUNT PRIMARILY? I THINK A FEW FROM ROCKVILLE COUNTY, BUT WE GET A LOT OF CUSTOMERS FROM QUINLAN AND FROM POINT WELLS POINT. GREAT. LOOKS LIKE YOU HAD A GREAT YEAR. WE DID. THANK YOU MS. SULLIVAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH JOHN. THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE Y'ALL GOOD WORK AND APPRECIATE THE REPORT, SIR, FOR I MOTION ON THAT. WELL I NEED A MOTION ON THAT. COMMISSIONER SHANE AND I'LL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK ON SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIED. OKAY. THE DISCUSS THERE PROCLAIM OF THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AS HOME CARE AND HOSPICE [01:00:01] MONTH IN KAUFMAN COUNTY. SO MAKE THE, UH, PROCLAMATION, BUT IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COMAN COUNTY DECLARES NOVEMBER, 2008 IS HOME CARE IN HOSPICE MONTH AND ENCOURAGED THE SUPPORT OF PARTICIPATION OF ALL CITIZENS IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE HOME CARE AND HOSPICE PHILOSOPHY OF CARE FOR THE ELDERLY, DISABLED AND APPEAL. I THINK ALL OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM AND UH, IT'S A VERY WORTH, WORTHWHILE, UH, PROGRAM. SO I DIDN'T TAKE MOTION. DECLARE. I'M NOT FROM THAT HONOR. MR. SHANE. ALL IN ? NO. MOTION CARRIES. UH, NOW WE WANT TO DISCUSS, WE'RE GOING TO DEPUTIZE JOHN IN FINE GLASS FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL IN FER. A MOTION CARRIED. UH, HOW DO WE HAVE ANY WE HAVE A FEW, NONE OF WHICH ACTUALLY AFFECTS THAT COUNTY, BUT IN THE FOUR H AREA, WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A LINE OUT OF THE DONATIONS REVENUE TO USE FOR EDUCATION EXPENSE, A THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THEN IN THE JUVENILE PROBATION WE HAVE TO SWITCH BETWEEN INTENSIVE SUPERVISION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER PROGRAM IS FROM THE FUND 35 VERSUS FUND 37. WE PUT A SALARY OF THE PROBATION IN IN THE WRONG. SO IT'S JUST MOTION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOTION, THE PERSONAL LINE ITEM. . ARE WE OFF NOW? NOW DID, UH, DID YOU HAVE THIS PLACE UP TO BE SIGNED? YOU GAVE ME A PROMOTION. WHAT I MAKE HERE COUNTY AUDITOR PROCEDURES IN MY OFFICE. AND NOW DO WE HAVE ANY, I GUESS WE GOT A LITTLE MONEY TO PAY A FEW BILLS, DON'T WE? I SEE MR. LYNCH HERE. DO WE OWE HIM ANY MONEY? ? I JUDGE MARILYN'S GOT THE FLOOR AGAIN. I'M SORRY, I JUST FORGOT TO, UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE RECYCLING. I FORGOT TO INTRODUCE GLEN BROWN AND SHE IS WORKING FOR US UNDER THE GRANT FOR THE 10 MONTHS OF THE GRANT FOR THE RECYCLING. SO YOU'LL BE SEEING HER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION. SHE'LL BE OUT IN GREENS. SHE HAS, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS UNUSUAL. . NO, I'VE HIRED HER FOR, UM, I JUST NEEDED HELP. SO WE HIRED HER FOR THE POSITION THAT WE HAD IN THE GRANT. WELCOME. THANK YOU. I TALK, I KNOW . 15 MINUTES, 20 MINUTES. WISH THEY HAD THAT CONVERSATION HERE. KNOW, BUT BUT SEE IT'S BETTER THAT SHE CALLS IT BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS SHERIFF. IF WE HAVE, UH, A CONSTANT RUNNING DOWN IN, OF A POST OF A MAILBOX, ANYBODY TO COMPLAIN WITH OTHER THAN I THOUGHT ABOUT BEEN TOLD, YOU KNOW, MAKE ONE OUT OF CONCRETE AND STEEL. YEAH, BUT UH, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA. I DO NOT. NOW THIS LAST ONE I DID BURY IN CONCRETE. I DIDN'T PUT THE POST IN CONCRETE. WELL, UH, FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH IT IT BROKE OFF RIGHT WHERE THE CONCRETE STOPPED. WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY'RE DRINKING GUNS DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY VEERED [01:05:01] OFF THE ROAD. THEY IT OFF THE ROAD AND TOOK IT OUT. I CATTLE GUARD ON. WE WERE WHOEVER MADE IT ONE MILE, THE LAST ONE ENDED UP ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THIS ROAD. I KNOW THEY DIS THEY HAD PRETTY GOOD SPEED. YEAH. AND THEN THIS ONE, IT STAYED ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROAD BUT THAT, BUT IT BROKE OFF RIGHT AT THE CONCRETE. AND THEN, THEN, THEN EVIDENTLY THEN WE LOOSE THE BOX, CAME BACK AND HIT IT ON THE HOOD AND UP ON THE . YEAH. NOW YOU KNOW, NO, WE DON'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, COMPLAINTS ON THOSE. WE KNOW JUST COMPLAINTS WHERE THE KIDS GET OUT USING THE SPRING, YOU KNOW, WITH BASEBALL, BASEBALL PASSAGE. I'M TELLING YOU, THEY EAT US UP ACUTELY ABOUT STARTING IN UH, APRIL THROUGH MAY MAKE A MAILBOX IS DESTRUCT JUST THE BOX ITSELF. THEY RUN OVER IT. THEY RUN OVER BUT THEY DID IT WITH BATTERY OR WHATEVER. IT'S 600. HEY JUDGE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE MAILBOXES AND COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE? WELL THEY GET SMASHED TOO. NO. OH, THE WAY THEY BUILT CONCRETE BRICK. ALL CONCRETE BRICK HIT ONE OF THOSE. OH YEAH. HIT ONE OF THOSE, A COUPLE THOSE NEW HOUSES UP ON 1389. PUT THOSE UP. OF COURSE HIGHWAY CAME BY THOUGH. YOU KNOW WHAT'S DISTURBING ABOUT THIS IS IT TOOK ME, I MEAN I USED THE OLD, OLD HAND. WHAT I DID JUDGE, I GOT, TOOK ME A FIVE GALLON BUCKET, PUT CONCRETE IN AND IF THEY HIT IT, IT JUST NORMALLY ROLLS IT ON OFF. YES. I DON'T LIKE DIGGING HOLES. ONE THING IN HERE IS GOING TODAY, THE POST POST BOX I CAN, SO WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE 20, 22 YEARS AND THIS IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE FIFTH ONE WE'VE LOST. IT'S NOT TOO BAD GUESS AT THIS TIME. I HAD THE FLARES, I HAD REFLECTORS, I HAD ALL OF THEM DOWN THE POST I HAD ON THE MAILBOX. SOMEBODY, THEY GIVES THEM SOMETHING. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BEFORE YOU, YOU GONNA COST YOU MONEY. JIM . UH, HOW? YES SIR. CHECK. OH, OKAY. I BET THAT WAS A BAD CHECK. I WAS WONDERING WHAT WE WERE DOING. WRITING A CHECK TO SAL . THAT WAS RESTITUTION. RESTITUTION. YES SIR. I DO CHECK THOSE PRETTY, MY INITIAL ONE, JP ONE I FIGURED [01:10:05] I OVER IS IT BUILDING LIKE YOU GOT OR JUST LIKE I GOT IT'S, IT'S ABOUT HALF THAT SIZE. IT'S 13 BY 16 I BELIEVE IT'S THE STORE TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT AND STUFF. I'M LOOKING AT OFFICE 36 3630 SOMETHING. THOUGHT YOU HAD A BETTER DEAL. I NEED MORE. I NEED MORE. BIGGER, BIGGER THAN THAT. WELL THIS DOESN'T HAVE HEATING AND AIR AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. IT'S JUST A STORY BATHROOM. DID YOU SEE YOU SEE MY STATION? I GOT THAT ON THE . YOU LIKE THAT? THAT'S MY LITTLE ANTIQUE CAR. YOU SEE RAY, HAVE YOU SEEN MY ANTIQUE CAR? THAT HIGH TECH STUFF? TURN A BROWNIE. YEAH, A BROWNIE. OKAY. STILL HAVE A PRETTY BIG PARADE. BIG PARADE. YEAH. IT WAS A BIG PARADE HERE. YEAH. WAS YEAH, IT WAS VERY BIG HERE. 1 22 WASN'T IT? 107. HOW MUCH? 107 HUNDRED SEVEN. THAT'S A LONG, YEAH, LONG. THAT WAS REALLY GOOD TOO. WE WERE, WE WERE, WE WERE, NO, NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PARADE, BUT WHEN WE GOT, WE WERE ALREADY BACK AND THEY WERE STILL GOING AND THEY WERE STILL GOING. WEREN'T. AND THEY WAS PROBABLY ABOUT THREE MILE TRIP OR SOMETHING AT CARRIE SAID IT TOOK HIM AT LEAST 30 MINUTES TO GET OUT THE, AT LEAST THAT LONG. LIVE UP AT NINE O'CLOCK. DOESN'T MEAN TO GET THERE AT NINE O'CLOCK. YOU GOTTA BE, YOU NEED TO BE THERE EIGHT O'CLOCK OR SEVEN O'CLOCK TO GET LEFT. DD GETS AWFUL UPSET OVER IF YOU DON'T GET LINED UP. RIGHT. I'LL TELL YOU SOMEBODY, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN JUDGE CHI SAID THIS IS THE MOST, UH, UNORGANIZED THING I THINK I'VE EVER BEEN IN. I SAID, YEAH, WE BELIEVE IN TRADITION IN, BOY IT BEEN, IT IS BEEN UNORGANIZED FOR 30 YEARS AND WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE THING. IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THAT NEXT YEAR TOO. AND THEN AFTER THEN AFTER NEXT YEAR, IT PROBABLY WILL DIE. JIM. WHAT? WHEN HE QUIT, WHEN THEY HAVE TWO REPLICA, IT'LL PROBABLY DIE DO ABOUT TWO HOMECOMINGS, IT'LL JUST DIE. IT'LL JUST BE ONE THAT THINGS THEY GET. YEAH. SATURDAY WAS A LONG DAY. I HAD TO OVER HERE EARLY IN THE MORNING TO SET UP A TENT. THEN I WENT BACK FOR THEIR PARADE, CAME BACK HERE UNTIL FIVE, TOOK THIS TENT DOWN, TOOK IT HOME. THEN I WENT TO FIND FUNDRAISER. WE WENT SEVEN. AND THEN YOU WENT TO TWO SCHOOL VACATIONS YESTERDAY? PARDON? WE TALKED, THIS IS LOWER PICTURES. DID I GET ANY UP HERE? SAID HOW MUCH LONGER IF IT HAD BEEN FOR THE SHERIFF THOUGH, I WOULD'VE FORGOTTEN MY LONG, MY HORNS ON THE CAR. I, WE WERE THERE AND READY TO GO, YOU KNOW, GETTING READY FOR THE PRAYER TO START AND, AND THE SHERIFF CAME UP AND HE SAID, I STILL THINK YOU NEED TO SET OF LONG HOS ON THAT. THEY'RE IN THE BACK END. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY THREW THAT CANDY IN AS HARD AS THEY HAVE IN THE PAST. I DON'T BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THEY'RE KIND OF LEARNING THAT THAT'S NOT REAL SMART. YOU KNOW, THAT SOMEONE CAN REALLY GET HURT. LITTLE KIDS. LITTLE KIDS. CAROL THOUGHT THAT THEY WILL NOT ALLOW ANYTHING. I WISH WE, I WISH WE WOULD STOP THAT TOO. I THINK OUR SAYS THAT YOU SEE THAT EVERYBODY JUST THROWS IT OUT ANYWAY. BECAUSE I THINK YOU SEE THAT LITTLE GIRL THAT EARLY STOPPED AND THAT LITTLE GIRL CRAWLED UNDER THE CAR. OH NO. OVER THIS ONE CRAWLED UNDER THE CAR TO GET THE CANDY. SOMETHING STOPPED. I'M NOT SURPRISED. NO, NO. THEY, UH, CAMP. CAMP. NO, I DIDN'T SEE THAT. BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING FUNNY GOING ON HERE TOO WHEN THEY ALL STOPPED AND THERE WERE A LOT OF KIDS AND THEY, PEOPLE GOT REALLY CLOSE TO THOSE FLOATS AND I WAS THINKING THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE ALL RUNNING FOR THAT. I THINK JUDGE NORVELL WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, WASN'T HE? RIGHT. YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT BEHIND THE SHIRT AND I CAN SEE AROUND THIS LITTLE GIRL GOING UNDERNEATH THE CAR VERY, I KNOW SHE SAW HER, WELL [01:15:01] IT POINT THEY HAD THE, THEY THE ANNOUNCER, HE ANNOUNCES DON'T GO IN THE STREET FOR THE CANDY, DON'T GO IN THE STREET. AND HE, AND THEY GET 'EM IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO. WAIT, I WAVE AT YOU DIDN'T WAVE BACK. I SAID I JUST WATCHED THE FATHER LITTLE KIDS MAKE SURE THEY WEREN'T GOING GET CAR. IT'S REALLY SCARY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, ALL LITTLE, I MEAN IT WAS PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY SCARY. IT PRETTY DANGEROUS TOO, BECAUSE YOU CAN REALLY GET, AND WHAT'S FUNNY IS THAT I EXPECT, BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THROW CANDY UHUH AND I WAS COMING THROUGH, WHERE'S THE CANDY? WHERE'S THE CANDY ON REALLY? YOU, WHERE'S THE CANDY? BECAUSE WE EXPECTED IT. WELL WE DON'T LET, WE DON'T LET CARRIE BE DOWNTOWN. WE HAVEN'T LET CARRIE BE DOWNTOWN FOR YEARS BECAUSE OF THE CAUSE. WE THROWING THAT CANDY. YOU SEE HOW THE CANDY IN THE ROAD AFTER IT WAS OVER WITH? OH YEAH. OF COURSE. I KNEW WHEN I WAS THROWING SOME OF, YOU KNOW, IT'D FALL OUTTA YOUR HAND AND BE RIGHT THERE. THE ROAD GOT RUN OVER, GOT DOWN. SO BIRDS. WELL THEY'RE JUST LUCKY THAT NO ONE HEARD OR EYE HERE OR SOMETHING HAPPENS. YOU'RE VERY LUCKY. I JUST TOLD HIM, I SAID, PICK ANY FLOAT YOU WANT TO JUST GET ON IT. JUST GET ON SOMETHING AND WEIGH YOUR SUNGLASSES. OKAY, WONDERFUL. JUST THE OLD FAT AND UGLY OTHER THAN I'M GOOD. AIN'T SEE ANYTHING YET. DID UH, PAID ANY BILLS? NO. YOUR PLACE WAS TOO FAR AWAY BEFORE THE HURRICANE HIT. DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET ANY FROM THIS, THE ONE BEFORE I GOT PART OF THE ROOF ON MY, UH, ON MY FISH CAMP. BUT I, WE FOUND IT ALL ONLY TOOK ABOUT AN HOUR TO PUT IT BACK. JUST, YEAH, THAT PREVAILING SOUTHEAST BREEZE AND THE, THE SCREW THAT WAS SCREWED DOWN AND THEY RUSTED OFF SOME OF RUST IT OFF, GOT THE FRONT PORCH LIFT PART OF THE ROOF, SIX PIECES AT END AND OUR GUTTER SYSTEM ON THAT SIDE, WE CATCH ALL OUR SHOWER WATER PLANTS OFF BY GUTTER, BUT IT FILLED BARRELS HALF BEFORE GUTTER HOSE. SO AT LEAST WE HAD SHOWER. HOW MANY RAY, HOW MANY WOULD YOU SAY THAT THEY HAD AT DE AT ONE MIDDLE SCHOOL YESTERDAY? GOSH, IT WAS A LOT. IT WAS, UH, HAD TO BE 4, 5, 400. AT LEAST THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S DEDICATION WAS BIGGER THAN MR. MS. HENDERSON'S. REALLY? AND I GOT MR. MS. HENDERSON'S WAS HUGE. MM-HMM . AND IT WAS, BUT THAT ONE WAS, THEY KEPT BRINGING CHAIRS AND BRINGING CHAIRS AND BRINGING CHAIRS. THEY RAN OUT AND I BET THERE WAS A HUNDRED PEOPLE STANDING UP UHHUH. THEY RAN OUT OF CHAIRS AND MARVIN HAD A GOOD GROUND TOO. MM-HMM. I WAS SURPRISED. I DIDN'T REALLY THINK SHE WOULD BECAUSE THAT DIDN'T GET PEOPLE. IT IS A LONG WAY FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE OTHER. RODE OVER WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY STUFF IS SO I DON'T THINK THEY HAD, I THINK THEY FIGURED THEY'D BE, BUT I DON'T TEACH FOR THAT LONG. WE GOT THAT MANY KIDS AND KNOW A LOT OUR STUDENTS THERE. OH YEAH. SHE'S 9 2 9 3 9 3. MM-HMM . WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU GET THE PEOPLE OR STUDENTS AND YOU GET THE PEOPLE THERE FOR THE METHOD CHURCH AND YOU GET THE PEOPLE THAT FROM A RETIREMENT HOME AND THEN JUST THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL. YOU GOT A PRETTY GOOD CROWD. DON'T RUN AWAY. OKAY. LIKE SAID, YOU KNOW, DON'T THINK ABOUT THE GOOD GUY. YOUNG , I MEAN SOUTH SOUTHEAST TEXAS LAST WEEK AND THE COMMISSION DOWN THERE ARE STILL HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH CLEANUP FROM, FROM ALL THE, UH, HURRICANE PROBLEM. THEY'RE STILL FE THEMSELVES AND OF, BUT NEGOTIATING PRICES AND IT'S, IT'S STILL A BIG PROBLEM DOWN THERE FOR THE, FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND, AND ALL THE COUNTY BISHOP SHERIFF. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU WHEN, UH, DID YOU GO BY CHAMBERS COUNTY OR, UH, NO, I WASN'T THAT FAR DOWN. AS FAR DOWN. I WENT AS FAR DOWN AS JASPER COUNTY, UH, ANDERSON COUNTY ON DOWN THROUGH POLK COUNTY AND THE . WE HAD A FORMER COUNTY JUDGE FROM CHAMBERS COUNTY WAS IN THE HOSPITAL DOWN THERE AND THEY MOVED HIM TO PRESBYTERIAN HERE IN VILLE. AND UH, THE COUNTY JUDGE, UH, DOWN THERE CALLED, ASKED ME TO GO BY AND CHECK ON HIM. SO I WENT BY AND CHECK ON HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL VEHICLE. DID HE DO OKAY? YEAH. YEAH. HE, HE [01:20:01] SAID I'LL NEED A FEW YEARS AND PROBABLY I NEED TO BE IN A NURSING HOME. THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY. WATER, WATER, NURSING HOMES. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE THAT HAVE ELECTRICITY. I THINK JEFFERSON COUNTY STILL GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS. YEAH, THEY DO HAVE SAW A BUNCH OF THEM LAST WEEK. MANAGE SEMINAR. STILL WORKING PRETTY HARD, TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY BACK. ONE OF MY SUPPLIERS IS IN BEAUMONT, A LONG TIME BAT WING BOARD IS OURSELVES AND THEY'RE STILL HAVING, YEAH, FORTUNATELY THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, ANY DAMAGE AT THEIR PLACE, BUT THE, THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE STILL HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEM. JIMMY SEAL, THE COUNTY JUDGE NOW. HE RODE THE STORM OUT AT THE COURTHOUSE. THEY BOARDED UP THE WINDOWS AND UH, GOT ALL THE FOOD AND WATER AND EVERYTHING IN. SO HE AND HIS STAFF AND HIS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PEOPLE WROTE IT DOWN AT THE COURTHOUSE. I BET THAT WAS AN EXPERIENCE. YEAH, THAT WAS TOO. CELL PHONE WAS WORKING BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I KEPT IN CONTACT WORKING. MM-HMM . YOU LEAVE, YOU LEAVE SATURDAY. I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE SEVENTH. OH. OH, I THOUGHT NOVEMBER 6TH YOU HAVE TO. NO, WHAT IS THIS? I LEAVE 10 GRAND. YOU BETTER KNOW FIRST SUNDAY. WELL, YOU BETTER KNOW ANYWAY. YOU BETTER GO IF YOU LEAVE THE FIRST SUNDAY IN NOVEMBER. THAT'LL BE THIS SUNDAY. SUNDAY FOR SATURDAY. SECOND SUNDAY, NOVEMBER. OKAY. YOU READY FOR BUY LOVE? NO, YOU BETTER GO THIS, THIS WEEKEND. THAT'S, THEY GOING BE SOME UNHAPPY PEOPLE IN LOVE. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT COULD, I THINK THE CATCHES WOULD PROBABLY WIN, BUT SO I EITHER ONE OF 'EM, THERE GONNA BE LOT OF THEM. I WOULDN'T BET ON EITHER ONE OF RIGHT NOW THEY BOTH CAN PUT THE POINTS ON THE BOARD. 50 5G. HE'S IN AREA LIKE CHASE, DANIEL, I NOTICED. DID YOU SEE, UH, SAID THE ONE THAT WE BUY, DID THEY PLAY BAYLOR? THEY PLAYED SU NO, SMU, BAYLOR PLAYED, UH, SOMEBODY BIG 12. IT WAS NAVY AND SU BAY PLAYED NEBRASKA DIDN'T. AND BAYLOR HAD NEBRASKA. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO THEY GOT WHO THEY PLAYED, BUT THEY GOT BI KNOW NAVY NEVER ATTEMPTED A PASS. THEY RAN, NEVER PLAYED. OKAY. OKAY. WITH ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PAY THE FIELD. SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. CHAIN SAYS YOU THIS TIME TO STOP THIS MESS. I'LL AGREE WITH THAT. WILL SECOND IT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.