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MR. SHANE, WILL YOU OPEN TODAY, PLEASE? YES.
UH, WE PRAY WITH YOU OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVEN.
FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ALWAYS THANKING YOU FOR MANY BLESSING.
YOU ALWAYS BLESS US WITH SO MUCH.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE TIME WE HAD WITH OUR FAMILIES IN THE PAST WEEK.
WE ASK YOU NOW TO BE WITH US AS WE DO OUR COUNTY'S BUSINESS.
ALSO BE WITH OUR TROOPS OR ANY HARM'S WAY.
BE WITH THEM, BLESS THEM, BRING THEM HOME SAFELY.
ALSO BE WITH THE LEADERS OF OUR NATION.
THESE THINGS YOU ASK YOUR SON'S NAME.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION AND GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, JERRY, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR FILLING IN FOR ME.
OKAY, JUDGE, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE PEOPLE, BUT WE WERE THERE.
WE PART, UH, PREVIOUSLY Y'ALL HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF OUR LAST MEETING.
PRETTY SHORT, UH, COPY OF OUR MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE MEETING.
GAVE YOU A COPY OF MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
UH, COMMISSIONER MAKES THE MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANY OF THAT THIS MORNING.
OKAY, LAST RICHARD MURPHY FIRST IS GONNA PRESENT THE TAX COLLECTORS MUCH REPORT FOR OCTOBER.
ON THE GENERAL FUND FOR OCTOBER SIX, FOUR AND ROAD AND BRIDGE, THIS IS 2% AS COMPARED TO 3% LAST YEAR, WHICH, UH, PROBABLY IS EVIDENCE IN THE FUNDS
UM, WE FOUND THAT I BELIEVE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES DELAYING THEIR PAYMENTS FROM OCTOBER, NOVEMBER INTO DECEMBER.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR, END OF NOVEMBER.
WE WERE REALLY AFRAID IN DECEMBER.
IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
IT ALL CAME IN ON DECEMBER 15TH.
NOW THEY DO HAVE A REASON TO PAY BEFORE YEAR END BECAUSE THE TAX DEDUCTIONS OF ALL THEIR MORTGAGES.
BUT WHY THEY QUIT PAYING IN OCTOBER LONG? WELL, THEY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HOLD ON THAT MONEY IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, THAT'S TWO MONTHS.
THEY GET TO HOLD ONTO IT AND THEY'VE GOT INVESTED.
SO THAT'S A LOT OF INTEREST FOR THEM.
I'LL TRY TO INQUIRE AND JUST SEE.
MY RECOLLECTION IS IT'S BEEN BETTER THAN THIS YEAR.
YEAH, WELL LIKE I SAID, LAST YEAR WAS 3%.
AND DICK GAVE ME A COPY OF THE HISTORY HERE.
UH, DICK DOESN'T REMEMBER JOHNNY.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE QUIT GIVING THE DISCOUNTS IN OCTOBER? NO, IT BEEN SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO.
YEAH, WHEN BEFORE I THINK BEFORE I CAME TO COURT.
IT, I DON'T REMEMBER THIS COURT EVER VOTING TO IT.
SO IT'S BEEN MORE THAN EIGHT YEARS.
THINK
YES, GEORGE, WHILE WE DIDN'T OFFER THE
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DISCOUNT, OTHER ENTITIES DID OFFER THE DISCOUNT AND SINCE THE OTHER ENTITIES OFFERED THE DISCOUNT, THE PARTS THAT WE ROLE WE PLAY WITH THE MORTGAGE S THE MORTGAGE COMPANY, EVEN IF IT WAS ONE OR TWO, WOULD STILL BRING ALL THAT MONEY IN EARLY.THEY WOULDN'T PAY PART, THEY WOULDN'T PAY JUST THE ENTITIES THAT OFFER THE OCTOBER DISCOUNT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T TAKE ALL THE ESCROW MONEY AND MAKE PAYMENT IN OCTOBER.
THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE BIG MONEY.
THE LAST ONE WAS 20 AND COUGHLIN THE LAST TWO DROPPED THREE YEARS AGO.
I MEAN THAT'S WHEN BEFORE THEY DROPPED IT WAS 23% THEN, RIGHT? YEAH.
I TOLD THEM THEY DROPPED IT DOWN.
WELL, THERE'S SOMETHING WE MAY WANNA CONSIDER, UH, OFFERING THAT DISCOUNT AGAIN, SUGGESTION THAT, UH, CHANGING THE FISCAL YEAR FROM OCTOBER 1ST OR JANUARY, ANDERSON COUNTY, HE INFORMED ME IS ON JANUARY 1ST.
I DUNNO HOW MANY COUNTIES, JOHNNY, YOU HAVE ANY COUNTY, HOW MANY IDEA HOW MANY COUNTIES ON NO, I PEOPLE DOING ALL IT IS EASY IN THE STATUTE.
THE STATUTE SAYS WE DO OUR BUDGET EITHER IN THE SEVENTH OR THE 10TH MONTH, WHICH INDICATES TO ME WE CAN DO IT FISCAL OR ANNUAL.
IT'S SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO IT ANYHOW.
MAKES OUR CASH FLOW JUST MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, WE STILL HAVE THE, WE STILL HAVE THE HOLD BETWEEN OCTOBER AND IN DECEMBER, JANUARY.
YOU STILL HAVE THAT WHOLE, IF YOU DON'T CARRY OVER TO 250 OR $300,000, THEN YOU GET IN TROUBLE.
THAT REMINDS ME OF ONE IS THIS, THIS, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE.
HAS THIS ALL BEEN TRANSFERRED? YEAH, THAT HAS, WELL THIS WOULD IS WE'RE IN NOVEMBER NOW.
HOW HARD DID THAT 25,000 GO FOR YOU?
I CARRY OVER AND WE MAKE SURE WE CARRY SOME THAT WE REALLY ARE GETTING TIGHT AND I'M SURE THE OTHERS YEAH, EXACTLY.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT TWO MORE PAYROLLS.
THREE, TWO OR THREE MORE PAYROLLS.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAMP.
SHOULD I GO AND BORROW THAT MONEY FROM ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES?
IT'S GOT WHAT I YEAH, I I HAVE BOTH STRONG FEELINGS EITHER WAY.
IT'S LIKE COMMISSIONER DE SAID HE STILL OUT THE OCTOBER, DECEMBER WITH VERY LITTLE CASH FLOW.
JUST WHETHER THAT'S BEGINNING OF THE YEAR OR THE END OF THE YEAR.
WELL, WE MAY HAVE WORKSHOP ON LATER ON, SEE WHAT WE DECIDE.
DO WE DIDN'T TAKE A MOTION THEN TO ACCEPT, UH, UH, MR. MURPHY'S REPORT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TAKEN TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT FOR OCTOBER.
NOW THIS NEXT ITEM, UH, DISCUSSED.
CONSIDER EMPLOYING 12 POSTING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE ELECTION EQUIPMENT.
EQUIPMENT AND RELATED SOFTWARE, PLUS VARIOUS DUTIES INVOLVING THE TAX OFFICE.
DICK HAD TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS AND I SAID, WELL, ALL WE CAN DO IS PUT THAT ON, ON THE AGENDA AND PRESENT TO THE COMMISSIONER TO SEE HOW THEY FEEL.
WELL, PHIL HOLSTEIN DID ALL THE, UH, IT WORK THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER DI WIFE DID LAST YEAR OR TWO AS FAR AS ELECTION GOES.
AND HE VERY SUCCESSFULLY LEARNED WHAT TO DO AND DID.
AND, UH, WE, ON ELECTION DAY, WE HAD, UH, A FEW PROBLEMS WITH EQUIPMENT WISE.
WE GOT THEM ALL SOLVED RELATIVELY FAST.
SO, UH, REALLY PLEASED THE WAY IT WENT FROM EQUIPMENT STANDPOINT.
NOW WE HAVE THIS NEW VOTER SYSTEM THAT HE CAN HELP US KEEP ON TOP OF ALSO.
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VARIOUS SIMILAR THINGS IN THE TAX DEPARTMENT THAT HE CAN HELP US WITH.SO I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT, UH, JUSTIFY AS IT WERE, UH, DISPOSITION AND OUR BUDGET WE ALREADY HAD IN THERE, UH, FOR ONE PERSON IN VOTERS IS, UH, AND WE ALSO HAD A CONTRACT AMOUNT.
SO THE TWO TOGETHER WILL INDICATE I'VE ALREADY GOTTEN BUDGET TO COVER THIS SALARY.
SO THOSE TWO AMOUNTS WOULD TAKE HOME, WOULD, UH, COULD TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU'RE, UH, WHAT THEY PAY FOR.
UM, MOSTLY BEEN MADE, UH, GET DISCUSSED.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
DISCUSSING, I HAVE, I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT DISCUSSING PERSONNEL ISSUES.
REALLY ALL PERSONNEL ISSUES SHOULD BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
'CAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT, UH, AND OTHER, OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
I, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALRIGHT, LET TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? I COULD DO THAT.
PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK OR SOMETHING AND TALK ABOUT IT.
UH, I I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT OVERLAP BETWEEN IT STEPPING ON IT'S TOES.
UH, ANYHOW, WE NEED TO GO INTO THAT.
WE WE'LL THAT AND BRING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONDAY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALL IN FAVOR THAT MOTION PUT ON, UH, NEXT ONE.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING A SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
UH, LAST MINUTE, UH, CHANGES LATE WEDNESDAY.
UH, AS FAR AS FINANCING INFORMATION, I THINK AS YOU RECALL, UM, THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING JUST IN CASE WE DON'T, SIR, JUST IN CASE WE DON'T RECALL.
I GONNA GET AS CLOSE TO JERRY AS I CAN.
WE, UM, THE SHERIFF PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF FOLKS THAT FOR OVER A YEAR HAVE, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CAN USE FOR SOFTWARE VENDORS.
AND THERE'S SOME URGENCY AS TO WHY WE BELIEVE WE NEED TO MOVE ON AT THIS POINT FROM OUR CURRENT VENDOR.
UM, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO WHEN WE DO A TRAFFIC SHOP RACIAL PROFILING ISSUE.
AND RIGHT NOW, THE CAMERA SYSTEMS THAT WE USE, WHICH WE'RE DONATED RIGHT DATE, PART OF THE PACKAGE WE HAVE IS A CAMERA SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CARS THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF THIS VERY CRUCIAL, IMPORTANT PART OF OUR, OUR TRAFFIC STOPS.
THERE ARE MANY PARTS OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT VENDORS EQUIPMENT.
THIS, WE'VE SIMPLY, AS A SHERIFF PUT AT BEST, I THINK LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, THAT WE SIMPLY OUTGROWN IT.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE, THEY JUST CAN'T DO ANYMORE FOR US.
UM, AFTER A YEAR, UH, THE SHERIFF PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF WHAT WE CONSIDER SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT ONLY WORK FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ARE RETIRED FROM AND WORKED IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THE AREAS OF DOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.
YOU KNOW, JAIL OPERATIONS, UH, DISPATCH AND THIS TEAM THAT DID THE EVALUATIONS COME UP WITH THE CURRENT VENDORS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE, AFTER DISCUSSION WITH SOME COMMISSIONERS WITH THE JUDGE TUESDAY, WE WENT BACK AND WITH THE HELP OF HAL, OUR AUDITOR, WE RENEGOTIATED THE FINANCIAL PIECE.
WHAT WE DID WAS, I THINK OUR FIRST GOAL WAS TO NOT COST ANY MORE MONEY IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET, WHICH WE'VE DONE.
AND THE OTHER, I THINK OUR OTHER GOAL WAS WHEN THE FIRST MAJOR PAYMENT IS DUE, WE WANTED TO NOT PUSH THAT INTO THE NEXT YEAR, BUT PASS THE TAX COLLECTION SEASON ONCE WE RECEIVED THE MONEY FROM THE ESCROW COMPANIES.
SO THE FIRST PAYMENT WOULD, A LARGE PAYMENT WOULD NOT BE DUE UNTIL JANUARY OF 2010.
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UH, HAL MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THIS.UH, WE WORKED TOGETHER TUESDAY WITH HP FINANCE, UH, AND PUT THIS PACKAGE TOGETHER.
YOU RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION, I THINK LAST WEEK.
WE HAVE A FRESH COPY OF NEW FINANCIALS FOR YOU TO REVIEW.
UM, WE HAVE A COPY FOR GIVE A COPY TO JOHN LAW.
BASICALLY THE DIFFERENCE IS WE WILL NOT INCUR ANY INCREASE TO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
WE WILL NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A MAJOR PAYMENT DUE UNTIL AFTER NOT ONLY 2010, BUT AFTER OUR, OUR MONEY IS COLLECTED FROM THE ESTRO FUND.
WE'LL, WILL THERE BE A NECESSITY FOR AN INCREASE IN THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET? NO.
WELL, HOW MUCH? WELL, AGAIN, AND WHERE'S IT GONNA COME FROM? IN EVERY CASE WHEN WE HAVE PURCHASED SOFTWARE, WHEN IT'S SOFTWARE GROUP OR WHOEVER, EVEN TYLER, UM, THE MONEY WAS IN A SEPARATE LINE ITEM.
IT WAS, IT, IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ODYSSEY COURTS PACKAGE DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE, ANY OF THE JUDGE'S BUDGETS.
IT COMES OUT OF A SEPARATE IT LINE ITEM.
WE FINANCED IT FOR THROUGH DIVERSIFIED LENDING.
AND THAT WAS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM.
AND WE VIEWED THIS THE SAME WAY BECAUSE THIS PIECE, YOU KNOW, THIS MONEY NOT ONLY AFFECTS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN OUR COUNTY AND THOSE POLICE DEPARTMENTS WE DISPATCH FOR.
SO THIS IS NOT AN SL ONLY PACKAGE.
IT AFFECTS THE ENTIRE COUNTY, BUT THE MONEY'S GOTTA COME SOMEWHERE TO POINT, WHETHER IT'S IN THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET, WHETHER IT'S IN THE GENERAL BUDGET ITEM, IN THE GENERAL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY MADE THE STATEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE MADE IT FINE, BUT WITH WAY THE ECONOMY IS NEXT YEAR, NOBODY'S GONNA NO PROBLEM GET AN INCREASE ANYWAY NOW.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT ASSUMPTION, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, UH, SO I MEAN, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T COME OUTTA THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IT'S GOTTA COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
SO SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WE HAVE COME UP WITH WHAT, 50,000? A HUNDRED THOUSAND, 500,000? UH, NO.
WHEN, WHEN DO WE, FOR FIVE YEARS, WHEN DO WE FINISH OUR NOTE WITH DIVERSIFIED FOR MENT? UH, IT'D OUGHT TO BE NEXT YEAR.
HOW MUCH IS THAT? MAYBE WE SO WE'LL BE PAYING PER YEAR THERE.
I'D, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT FAR.
I MEAN, WE HAVE OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BEING PAID OFF, NOT JUST THE, THE MONEY TO GSA, BUT ALSO OTHER NOTES WE HAVE FOR OTHER SOFTWARE.
SO I GUESS WE THEN NEED TO GET, THIS WILL TAKE THE PLACE OFF.
ALL WE NEED, WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER.
AND THERE'S NO PENALTY FOR BREACHING LEAVING THOSE OTHER CONTRACTS EARLY.
LIKE I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS, UM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RETIRE ON THAT NOTE TO DIVERSIFIED LENDING.
IS IT THIS YEAR? SEE THE NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER? SO I THINK WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT THE NOTES WE HAVE OUTSTANDING NOW AND SEE WHEN WE CAN RETIRE THOSE NOTES AND SEE HOW QUICKLY DO, NOW DOES THIS SOFTWARE, IS IT, DOES IT INTERACT WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SOFTWARE WITH LAURA'S SOFTWARE AND WITH THE DISTRICT CLERK SOFTWARE WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ON INMATES FOR COURT SETTINGS AND ET CETERA? I MEAN, WE'LL, WELL, THEY WON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THIS SOFTWARE IN THE SAME WAY THEY HAD ACCESS TO THE GSA.
DOES GSA I ASSUME THEY COOPERATE.
I MEAN, THEY INTERACT WITH, UH, THE OTHER DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE INQUIRY COURTS INQUIRE TO THE SHERIFF'S PACKAGE.
WELL JUDGE IF THE SHERIFF'S PEOPLES LOOKED AT IT AND IF THEY FEEL THAT IT'LL WORK.
UH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE SHERIFF'S DECISION.
I'M JUST MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE MONEY THAN I JUST CURIOUS.
I THINK WE NEED TO ANSWER ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE INTERACTIVE WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ALSO.
I MEAN, YOU SAYING THAT IT'D BE THE SAME AS GSA DO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS? WELL, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, I, I HATE TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO HAVE COME AND SAY, SHERIFF'S GOT THIS NEW PACKAGE.
NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A NEW PACKAGE.
I I I THINK IT IS GOING BE WHAT, WHAT WE DO NOW, THEY INTERACT WITH OUR, WHAT WE CALL OUR JAIL SOFTWARE, WHERE THEY CAN READ, YOU KNOW,
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THE BOOKING SCREEN, THE JAIL SCREEN, THE THE, THE JUDGES CAN ALL BRING THAT UP AND SEE THE DOCKETS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.THAT, THAT WILL BE, UH, THE SAME.
THAT WHAT I, THAT'S NOBODY ABLE TO TELL ME THAT.
SO THEY CAN STILL YEAH, THAT SHERIFF SAYS IT IN ENGLISH.
SO THEY'LL STILL BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, ACCESS THAT.
AND THE, THE BIG THING THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO US ON THIS IS WE'VE GOT THREE SYSTEMS OUT THERE, WHICH ARE VERY UN AND ONCE WE GET, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S INTEGRATED, WE'LL HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF ENTRY ONCE IT'S THERE TO BE IN THE SYSTEM.
WHERE NOW WE'RE HAVING TO REENTER THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, UH, THE, UH, I, I GUESS I'M UNSURE OF THE, THERE'S SOME OFFSET WITH WHAT WE'RE PAYING GSA NOW WHEN WE WE'RE PAYING THEM.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUT YOU HAD THAT I'M SURE.
THE, UH, WHAT GEORGE AND I TALKED ABOUT AND, AND WE TALKED WITH THE, THE FINANCING PEOPLE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS IF WE CAN STOP THOSE PAYMENTS AND START THESE PAYMENTS THIS YEAR, THEN THERE'S NO BUDGET EFFECT THIS YEAR.
NEXT YEAR WE'LL PAY 500,000 RATHER THAN 2 28.
SO IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 2 72 72, RIGHT.
IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BIG A INCREASE.
HAS ANYBODY CHECKED INTO GSA? CAN WE THAT, HOW MANY MORE YEARS DO WE HAVE ON GSA MONTH? WE'RE MONTH TO MONTH.
BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE AN OVERLAP JUDGE, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE DATA AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONVERT.
SO THERE IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST SOME POINT OF, OF WHERE THERE'S A DUAL PAYMENT.
WE'RE GOING BE PAYING BECAUSE GSA IS NOT GOING TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FOR NOTHING.
SO THERE IS GOING TO BE, UH, SOME WINDOW IN THERE.
WE, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE ENCOURAGING SOME, SOME, UH, COST TO GSA INTO THE, TO THE NEW VENDOR ON, ON THE CHANGE.
AND WHAT I WAS TALKING TO GEORGE ABOUT IS IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE BEFORE THIS FIRST PAYMENT, IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN GET GSA STUFF CONVERTED, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO RUN DUAL, LIKE YOU SAY, BUT WE DON'T MAKE A PAYMENT UNTIL JUNE, JULY.
WE'VE GOT HALF A YEAR TO CONVERT THE DATA.
SO WE, SO WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS AT THE DATE WE CAN TURN ONE OFF, THEN, THEN, OR LATER WE MAKE THIS FIRST PAYMENT.
WELL, SURE, IT COULD BE DONE IN THIS YEAR.
I MEAN, WE ONLY HAVE TO PAY ON THIS NEW CONTRACT 59,000 THIS YEAR.
SO EVEN IF YOU HAD TO PAY BOTH OF THOSE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, THAT WAS DETERMINED WEDNESDAY.
I WANT NEXT YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU AS MUCH OF THE FINANCIAL STUFF AS WE CAN BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE COMING BACK UP HERE IN THREE MONTHS AND SAYING, OH, WE, WE NEED ANOTHER X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
YOU KNOW, I I DON'T THINK THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO MEET WITH, WITH GSA ON THE FIFTH, I BELIEVE IT IS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, MATTER FACT, WE'RE GONNA MEET WITH THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY AND, UH, TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT SMOOTHED OUT AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT MAD AT THEM, BUT WE HAVE JUST SIMPLY OUTGROWN AND, UH, THEY CANNOT PROVIDE THE SERVICES WE NEED.
AND, AND WE'RE STARTING OUR OPERATION, UH, YOU KNOW, DATA IS STARTING TO SUFFER OUT FOR RIGHT NOW.
AND WE, WE'VE GOTTA MOVE BEFORE IT BECOMES, YOU KNOW.
THE COST INCREASE WENT FROM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS IS THAT DUE TO THE ADDITIONAL LICENSES WE HAVE BE PURCHASED FOR OTHER ENTITIES TITLE TO THIS, THIS INCLUDES ALL THE LAST NAME, UH, CORRECT.
FIRE PLEASE, SHERIFF FOR EVERYBODY.
BE THE COUNTY, EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS THE SYSTEM.
WHICH WOULD BE THE, THE CONSTABLES, THE FIRE, THE FIRE MARSHALS, UH, THE CITIES.
ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE NEW EQUIPMENT TO TIE INTO THIS? NO.
UH, AND THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE A LEASE AGREEMENT, NOT, WE'RE NOT BUYING WE'LL END.
DESCRIPTION OF ITEMS LEASED EQUIPMENT, 2,199,000 188 LEASE PURCHASE.
SO IF WE DROP THAT GSA AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND THEN WE'RE PAYING 500, THE, THE REAL INCREASE IS TWO 22,000 A YEAR.
SO THAT MEANS WE'RE STARTING OUT ON NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET ALREADY HASN'T COME UP.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I I, I WANNA UNDERSTAND,
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WILL THIS SOFTWARE THAT THE SHERIFF'S GONNA GET SEND DATA FROM BOOKING TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? DOES IT INTERACT WITHOUT A SEAT? NO.SO IT IS STILL, THEY'LL STILL DO A MANUAL INTAKE.
SO IT'LL STILL JUST BE A VIEW A PRODUCT.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PULL IT OVER.
NOT FROM THE ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION OF CGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE YOU RUN INTO IS WHEN YOU HAVE TWO VENDORS, A NEW RELEASE BREAKS THE INTERFACE.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN HAVE A DYNAMIC, TOO DYNAMIC INTERFACE WHERE YOU HAVE RELEASES ON BOTH SIDES.
SO INTAKE FROM THE DA WILL STILL BE THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW.
SO ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS WILL BE TIED INTO THIS.
WHEREVER WE DISPATCH WORK, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IS THE GOAL.
WELL, WE DISPATCH FOR THE SMALL POLICE AGENCIES PLUS THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IS THAT EVERYBODY? NO, NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T DISPATCH FOR KAUFMAN.
WE RECOUP SOME THAT $220,000 FROM THE PEOPLE AT TOWN TO, OR WOULD THAT BE A FAIR? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT AND AND I WOULD AGREE.
IF IT IS BIG ENOUGH, COMBINE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT WE, I THINK PROVIDE ALL THE SERVICES SMALLER CITIES BECAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO DO IT THEMSELVES.
YOU KNOW, AND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU START UP FROM SCRATCH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT A EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NOT HAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS REVEREND BRITISH GETS.
SEE, COULD THEY NOT PAY FOR THEIR COURT? DOES THAT IDE ASK FOR THAT TO REDUCE THAT TWO 20 OR A YEAR? HMM.
HOW MUCH YOU, THEY GET 3 CENTS, DON'T THEY? SOME OF THEM GOING UP TO, UH, 9 CENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET ANY FUNDING THAT'S TAX MONEY THAT THEY'RE GETTING.
SO IT BE LIKE THEY COULD HAVE TAKEN THAT TAX MONEY TO OFFSET SOME OF THIS OTHER MONEY SO IT WOULDN'T, MAYBE COULD REDUCE OUR IMPACT.
OUR, OUR GOAL WITH CREATING THESE DISTRICTS WAS TO EVENTUALLY THE COUNTY GET OUT OF GIVING THEM MONEY, PERIOD.
WE'RE STILL GIVING THEM AS MUCH AS 21,000 ON THREE DIFFERENT FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THEN 7,000, 8,000, I THINK MINIMUM SEVEN.
WE OUT THAT MONEY OVER THERE, PUT ON, PUT THAT MONEY ON THE BUDGET FOR THE, THAT WERE GIVEN TO THEM FOR THAT AND PUT ON SUBSIDIZED THE TIED END INTO THE, THE SYSTEM.
HERE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS AN ALTERNATIVE.
IT'S ALWAYS AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLETELY OUT TOO, WHICH THE GOAL.
BUT, UH, YOU START TALKING, TALKING ABOUT CUTTING MONEY OUTTA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND YOU HAVE THIS ROOM EVERY MONDAY FOR MONTHS, WHICH IS FINE.
I MEAN, THAT'S NO BIG DEAL IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL END UP WANTING DO.
BUT, UH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, WITH DOING IT FOR THOSE SMALLER, SMALLER ONES.
UH, MY, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS THE IN IN WORKINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE LAURA SAID, IT'S NOT GONNA HELP THEM.
I MEAN, THEY CAN STILL DO WHAT THEY CAN NOW, BUT IT'S NOT IMPROVING THE COUNTY CLERK OR THE SHERIFF OR THE, UH, DISTRICT CLERK OR THE DAS.
I THINK THE QUALITY OF THE DATA AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THE OPERATION OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS CERTAINLY GONNA IMPACT THE COURTS.
THE DA WELL, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ON ODYSSEY, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SYSTEM, AND THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH INTERFACING WITH THAT.
WHEN WENT ON, WE WENT ON ODYSSEY.
THAT WAS THE GLORY OF THE, BUT, BUT SEE, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY EXTENDED.
UH, WE INCLUDED OUT THERE WITH US.
IF MOVING THIS WAY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT SPEND MILLION DOLLARS NOW FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THEN, THEN NEXT YEAR THE DA COMES TO US AND SAYS, UH, WE, WE CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION WE NEED.
WE NEED A MILLION DOLLAR PACKAGE.
AND THEN THE CLERKS COME IN AND SAYS, WE CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION THEY NEED.
WE NEED A MILLION DOLLAR PACKAGE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET INTO IT.
IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN EVEN MODIFY THIS TO GIVE THEM MORE ACCESS, IS THAT, IS THAT POSSIBLE? AND MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT MORE ACCESS.
MAYBE I'M JUST BLOWING SMOKE HERE, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT, I JUST DON'T WANT TO SPEND A MILLION, 2 MILLION $199,000 AND NOT BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, AND WE GET UP IN A HOLE.
WE HAVING TO SPEND THAT MUCH MORE TO BENEFIT THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
I THINK WE NEED TO TO HAVE THE WISE APPLICATION, GET WITH THE MONEY.
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OBVIOUSLY CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.WELL, PART OF, PART OF THE DISCOVERY PROCESS, UH, WE BROUGHT TYLER IN AND LOOKED AT THE ODYSSEY, LOOKED AT GOING A LOT OF THE ODYSSEY OUT THERE AT SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE SAME PACKAGE AND THE FUNCTIONALITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA OF TA AND, AND CID IT JUST DID NOT HAVE WHAT WE NEEDED OUT THERE.
IT JUST, THEY EXCEL IN COURTS.
I MEAN, WITHOUT A DOUBT, TYLER, YOU KNOW, ODYSSEY, THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB IN COURTS, NOT ONLY IN OUR STATE, BUT IN A LOT OF OTHER STATES, BUT THEY DO NOT EXCEL IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO IT WAS NOT MY DECISION, BUT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THOSE FOLKS THAT MADE UP THE COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWED THE SOFTWARE THAT FELT THAT IT WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE TAKING THIS STEP BACKWARDS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE DISPATCHER WE GO TIME, ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH LOOKING AT THESE APPLICATIONS IS THAT YOU HAVE COMPANIES THAT NEW COURT LIKE
BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THE VENDORS THAT DO ALL THREE OF THOSE.
WELL, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO HERE BECAUSE, UH, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE.
I GUESS THEY CAN ONLY BE GOOD AT SO MANY THINGS.
BUT WE DID FIND THIS ONE VENDOR THAT, THAT HAS AN EXCELLENT, UH, PRODUCT IN ALL THREE OF THOSE AREAS THAT IT AFFECTS US, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TO GO.
ACTUALLY, THE CITY OF FORNEY, UM, IS USING THAT SYSTEM NOW.
SO WE WOULD ALL THE SMALLER AGENCIES IN FORNEY, I THINK TERRELL WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD OUT BE ON THE SYSTEM.
DOES IT HAVE A COURT PACKAGE? NO, THEY'RE NOT IN COURT BUSINESS.
I CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING THAT YOU GOT COMPUTER COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN THIS AND THEN THE OTHER COMPUTER COMPANY SPECIALIZES IN THIS AND THEN GO DOWN THE LINE AND THEY DON'T GEE, ALL WITH EACH OTHER.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM WE RUN INTO.
EVERYBODY WE LOOKED AT, THEY DID ONE, MAYBE TWO, UH, AND, AND NOBODY DID COURTS AND THE JAIL WE LOOKED AT IN ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UH, HOW DOES IT COMPARE NOW WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE AREA? IN OUR, IN OUR, IN OUR INTER MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS? WHAT CALL INTEROPERABILITY? INTEROPERABILITY.
THE COUNTIES AND WITH, UH, THE COUNTIES AT COX TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER WHERE EVERYBODY COMMUNICATE.
WELL, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT AN RF SOLUTION MORE THAN A WATCH RADIO.
YEAH, THAT'S MORE THE INTEROPABILITY IS ACTUALLY THE WAY WE COMMUNICATE BY RADIO.
UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS STUFF HERE, NEARLY ALL OF THE, THE AGENCIES, YOU KNOW, HAVE A IN-HOUSE STUFF AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY AGENCIES OUTSIDE THE COUNTY THAT COULD GO, LIKE WHERE MAY SAY DALLAS COULD ACCESS OUR DEAL SCREENS OR WE COULD.
NOW I MESQUITE, SINCE THEY'RE OVER IN THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE REMOTE BOOKING.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ACTUALLY BOOK SOMEBODY IN AT THEIR CITY JAIL IN OUR JAIL.
AND THEN WHEN THEY GET OVER THEM, WE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, BOOKING NUMBER AND IT POPULATES THAT SCREEN.
CITY OF KAMAN WOULD JAIL FOR THEM.
THEY HAVE REMOTE BOOKING, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, IN OUR JURISDICTION, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, ACROSS JURISDICTIONAL LADDER AND THERE'S OTHER THAT IS
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, A COFFEE SYSTEM THERE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A MUCH, UH, CHEAPER SOLUTION ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
UH, YOU KNOW, I I TOOK YOUR COMMENTS TO HEART.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BUY THIS AND WE ALSO GOTTA GO.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, UH, DO SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS GONNA BE MUCH CHEAPER THAT CARRY US.
UH, THEY, THEY KEEP PUSHING THIS DATE THAT WE'VE GOTTA GO TO THIS NEW SYSTEM UP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES.
IT STARTED OUT SUPPOSED TO BE 2011 OR 2008, 2011, I THINK IT UP 13 OR NOW THAT'S THE RADIO.
SO, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A, UH, A MORE USABLE, CHEAPER APPLICATION ON THAT.
AND, UH, I DID YOUR, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE, THIS IS A CRITICAL THING FOR US RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO SPEND OUR, FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO KEEP OPERATING.
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WELL, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH FINANCIAL BEEN WORKED OUT IF WE'RE DOING WITH THIS? YES, SIR.IT'S LIKE I WAS SAYING, MY MAIN CONCERN WAS NOT TO AFFECT THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, WHICH I DIDN'T BELIEVE THE FINANCING COMPANY WOULD AGREE TO, AND THEY DID.
UH, SO IT IS JUST, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE $272,000 INCREASE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND RAY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DISCOURAGE THAT, PURSUING THAT, GETTING SOME, UH, PARTICIPATION FROM SOME OF THESE, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HISTORY.
UH, BUT UH, YOU'VE HEARD THE CAN OF WORMS, CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASKED FOR
BUT, UH, NEXT YEAR WHEN WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A 500, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS IN YOUR BUDGET, I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE WAY AHEAD, BUT ARE THERE OTHER THINGS IN YOUR BUDGET MAYBE THAT YOU CAN CUT BACK ON THAT, UH, CAN HELP THING? I DON'T THINK WE CAN CUT BACK ON OUR GASOLINE BUDGET.
IT'S A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR.
GAS IS DOWN TO $2 11 CENTS A GALLON.
BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, IF I COULD PROCEED WHAT COST THE GASOLINE GO IN NEXT YEAR, I WOULDN'T NEED TO BE THE SHERIFF.
I COULD SEE YOU RICH ADVISING THE NEW PRESIDENT.
SOMETHING
BUT YEAH, WE'LL LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL, UH, BE ABLE TO KEEP BOARD OF PRISONERS AND WISH THESE OTHER, ANY HARD LUCK, MAYBE SOME OF THEM GET THE MANDATE THAT WE GOT, YOU KNOW, OUT, BY THE WAY, AT THE COUNTY JUDGES MEETING WEEK BEFORE LAST NIGHT, DIDN'T STAND UP, ANNOUNCED THAT WE HAD PLENTY OF BEDS,
UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THEY HAD A WHOLE SECTION ON NESS OF JAILS, THOUGHT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE TIME TO GIVE US A BLOOD.
I, I HAVEN'T HEARD A, SOMEBODY TOLD ME THAT SMITH COUNTY BOND WENT DOWN AGAIN FOR THE JAIL IN NOVEMBER.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE THIRD TIME.
SO, AND WE'RE HOLDING SMITH COUNTY PRISONERS.
SO THAT MAY GEORGE, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH WILL THIS HELP THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? TREMENDOUSLY.
I MEAN, JUST THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE CAD FEATURE AND MAPPING THAT HOLDS GIS PARTS WILL BE TREMENDOUS.
NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY FOR THEM, BUT FOR THE SMALLER POLICE AGENCIES.
SO THESE ARE THE TECHNOLOGY WHICH THEY COULD NEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD NEVER ENJOY, NEVER TAKE PART IN.
I'M SORRY, MY, MY FIRST QUESTION WAS WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS UP WAS IN FACT, I TALKED TO HAL ABOUT, HAL SAID TO ME, SMALL CITY, BUT YOU KNOW, DARN WELL THE COMBINE AND JUST DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
BUT I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TALKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I, I KNOW YOU, YOU MAY NOT LIKE A ROOM FULL OF CHIEFS, BUT, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOW A TAXING ENTITY.
AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN MANAGE THEIR OWN BUDGET IF WE GIVE THEM A LEAD TIME AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE CUT IT IN HALF, REDUCE IT BY SOME PERCENTAGE.
UH, BUT I'M, I'M, I'M AFRAID, AND, AND I THINK THE JUDGES INDICATED THIS COUPLE, I'M AFRAID NEXT YEAR'S REVENUE'S NOT GONNA BE YEAH.
WHAT THIS YEAR'S REVENUES ARE GONNA BE.
WE HAVE FORECLOSURE BE FORECLOSURES THAT BECAUSE OF THE EVALUATION AND PROPERTY, OUR APPRAISALS ARE GOING TO GO DOWN.
IF THEY DON'T GO DOWN, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG OUT THERE AT THAT PLACE, JOHNNY.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE HOW THE, THE APPRAISALS CAN KEEP FROM GOING BACK YET.
I, I, AND THEN IF THE APPRAISAL GO DOWN, THEN OUR MONEY GOES DOWN.
THAT'S, BUT I GUESS THAT'S ONE BRIDGE WE JUST HAVE TO CROSS WHEN WE GET THERE.
I NOT TRYING TO HAM THE FIRE AWAY, BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA GET SOME BENEFIT OUT OF IT, I AGREE THEY SHOULD REDUCE OUR IMPACT ON THE CROP.
NOW THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, OH, YOU KNOW, WE WENT AROUND THE COUNTY AND WE GOT, UH, CONTRACTS WITH A LOT OF THE WATER COMPANIES TO PUT THE SATELLITES ON THERE.
HAS THIS GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT? NO.
HOW DID, HOW DOES THIS GET FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY JAIL TO CAMP PARK DEPARTMENT? RIGHT NOW? ALL OF THE, UH, AGENCIES USE THEIR SPRINT WIRELESS CARDS AS WE DO.
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HAVE A, WE HAVE A, UH, SECURE NETWORK, UM, SOFTWARE KNOWN THAT MOST WE ALREADY OWN.AND THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW THE CONNECTIVITY WORKS WITH THE CAR BACK TO US.
NOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH THE MICROWAVE TO ALL THOSE TOWERS YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, THAT'S HOW WE CONNECT THE PHYSICAL BUILDINGS BACK TO HERE.
THERE WOULDN'T BE ADDITIONAL, AND THIS WON'T INTERFERE WITH THAT.
I MEAN, SO THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE SPENT SEVERAL YEARS TRYING TO GET IT FIXED UP WITH ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
THIS JUST SOMETHING, THIS, THIS IS A SOFTWARE APPLICATION THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, WILL HELP US AS WE DISPATCH TO THEM.
IT'LL GIVE THEM MUCH MORE INFORMATION, MORE RESOURCES AND MAPPING.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA THEY'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR UNIT FIRE AS WELL AS POLICE.
AND I HATE TO BE SO INQUIRING ABOUT IT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $2 MILLION HERE.
WELL, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT'S WHY I SAID, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU IT'S GONNA BE THIS.
AND IN THREE MONTHS NOW, HEY, BY THE WAY, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE WORK VERY HARD TO TRY TO GET A HARD FIGURE ON THIS.
AND I DON'T NEED ANY HELP DOING THAT.
I, WE BROUGHT THE VENDORS IN, PLUS WE WENT ON SITE AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE.
I'VE GOT MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED SO WELL WITH THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENTS, I REALIZE SMALL CAN ALL THE BIG IS TAR WARNING MADE BACK MORNING IS ALREADY ON THE SYSTEM.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET ONTO MAYBANK IS WE, WE DISPATCH FROM MAYBANK, WE FURNISHED ALL SERVICE FROM MAYBANK KIM, UH, COMBINE AND CREDIT CAROL.
CAROL 40 IS ON THE SAME SYSTEM.
IT COST ANY FOR TO TIE INTO THIS.
WE CAN GIVE AN INQUIRY ACCESS.
THEY, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, IT PROBABLY BE IF THEY WANTED TO.
I'M NOT, I MEAN, I DON'T WHAT THEY, WELL THEY, MY POINT, I GUESS IF WE CAN FURNISH IT FOR SOME PEOPLE, WE NEED TO PUNISH IT FOR EVERYBODY.
WELL, THEY DON'T, THEY, THEY DON'T WOULD HAVE A NEED FOR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE A STANDALONE AGENCY.
AND NOW FORNEY MAY BECAUSE THEY BOND CLASS BS OUT THEIR CITY JAIL OVER THERE, PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
EVERYBODY ELSE CLASS B AND ABOVE, THEY TRANSFER US.
SO PONY MIGHT HAVE A, AND THEN PONY'S ON THE SAME SYSTEM.
SO WOULD COST POINTY ANY REVENUE DOWN MATTER EXPENSE, GIVE THEM ACCESS TO IT AND THEN THEY CAN ACCESS WHAT WE GOT RIGHT NOW.
SO ANY OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT WANTED TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT, THERE WOULD BE NO CHARGE.
HONOR THAT, I GUESS THAT, THAT MAKES, IT COVERS EVERYBODY IF THEY WANT.
IF THEY WANT TO, THEY'RE COVERED RIGHT NOW WE ARE, WE, WE DISPATCH FOR, WE DO
I'D LIKE TO HAVE JOHN KIND LOOK OVER THE WRITTEN FILE DOCUMENT.
HE HAS THE ORIGINAL, I RECEIVED IT THIS MORNING.
HE HAS THE ORIGINAL PACKET YOU RECEIVED LAST WEEK.
AND THEN I JUST GAVE HIM THE NEW FINANCIALS, THE NEW UPDATE.
ENCOURAGE THEY WHAT? YEAH, I THINK, UH, IF JOHN, JOHN APPROVES, I THINK, UH, WE OUGHT TO GO.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE TIGHTEN OUR BELT.
I JUST, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH YOU NEED A MOTION.
A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL THAT BRINGS AYE, AYE.
THANK YOU'ALL FOR THE WORK Y'ALL PUT IN ON IT.
SIR, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE SOFTWARE? SOUTHERN SOFTWARE.
SOUTHERN SOFTWARE IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY.
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CONTRACT.DID YOU GET ALL THAT? LAURA? YES SIR.
DID YOU GET YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED ABOUT WHICH COMPANY? YES.
OKAY, NOW LET'S CONSIDER RENEWING OUR MEMBERSHIP VIEWS TO THE ASSOCIATION OF RURAL COUNT COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS AND PAYING THE ANNUAL DUE.
YOU KNOW, WE, HALF OUR COUNTY IS IN THE URBAN PART AND HALF OF IT'S IN THE, IN THE, UH, WHAT WE CONSIDER RURAL.
SO TRADITIONALLY WE'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF BOTH UNITS.
OUR FEES ARE DUE, ARE THREE $50 A YEAR.
AND, UH, THEY KEEP US INFORMED ON, UH, THINGS THAT AFFECT, UH, SMALL COMMUNITIES IN, UH, AND SMALL COUNTIES.
MADE BY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
MOTION CARRIES, UH, DISCUSSIONS.
CONSIDER REAPPOINTING JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN AS COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
JOHNNY, ARE YOU STILL WILLING TO SERVE? I PROBABLY ABOUT ONE MORE YEAR.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALL IN MOTION.
UH, WANTS TO CARRY CABLE ON MAGNOLIA MAP WAY DOWN AT THE END OF IT.
APPROXIMATELY 200 YARDS NORTH OF 50.
SOMEWHERE MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
TELL SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS? JUDGE? WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NOT FUNDS, COUPLE OF SMALL FUNDS.
I JUST DIDN'T PICK UP THE BEGINNING.
STAR FUND AND PROGRAM A OTHERS.
THE MAJOR, UH, THING WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS MORNING IS ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE.
WE, UH, OUR, I, UH, ESTIMATED ENDING CASH BALANCE AT NINE 30 FOR THEIR CARRY.
I DID THAT LIKE ON THE 25TH OF SEPTEMBER SO WE CAN GET THE BUDGET FREE.
AND THE NEXT DAY PRECINCT FREE RECEIVED $112,292 FROM THE, UH, NORTH TEXAS WATER MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.
SO I'VE GOT A BUDGET NUMBER FOR PRECINCT FREE COGNIZE AND ADJUST THAT BEGINNING BALANCE.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER SECOND.
GIVE HIM, IS THAT GONNA BE HERE? THIRD? THIRD PRAYER PLAN.
UH, WE'LL MEET, WE'LL MEET, UH, NEXT MONDAY THE EIGHTH.
THE FOLLOWING MONDAY THE 15TH.
WE NOT WILL BE BACK THEN FOR THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR ON DECEMBER THE 29TH.
NOW EITHER THE LAST MEETING OR NEXT MONDAY, I'VE GOTTA TALK TO PHOTOGRAPHER.
I REALIZED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT THIS COMMISSION'S COURT HAS NEVER HAD HIS PICTURE AND EVERY COMMISSIONER'S COURTS HAD HIS PICTURE.
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YEAH.THAT'S BEFORE RAY WAS ON THERE, WASN'T IT? THAT'S RIGHT.
AND, UH, EVERY COMMISSIONER'S COURTS HAD HIS PICTURE MADE SINCE THE NEW COURTHOUSE IS BUILT, OPENED UP IN 55.
SO I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT BREAKS THAT.
I TALKED TO, UH, ALREADY TALKED TO A PHOTOGRAPHER AND SHE SAID SHE'D LOVE TO DO IT AND WE JUST DIDN'T PICK A DATE YET.
GONNA TAKE, SO, BUT WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.
WILL, YOU'LL BE SURE WHERE YOUR COAT AND TIE, BUT EVERYBODY'S DRESSED.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU, I, ONE OF THE COUNTY JUDGES MEETING WENT THROUGH AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASKED WAS OF US WAS HOW MANY OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS WHERE CO TIES THE COMMISSION COURT? AND ONLY ABOUT HALF THE JUDGES IN THERE SAID THEY DO.
SO MOST OF THEM WHEN I WENT TO BENZA COUNTY, THE JUDGE WAS ON ONE A COUPLE TIMES.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, KEEP THAT IN MIND.
AND UH, ANGELA WILL CONTACT YOU.
UH, IT MAY BE NEXT MONDAY OR THE 15TH.
WE TRY TO GET EITHER NEXT MONDAY OR THE 15TH FOR SURE.
AND WE WON'T MEET ON THE 22ND.
NOW, WHEN WE DON'T MEET ON THE 22ND, THAT MEANS WE'RE ON THE NINTH AND END OF THE BUSINESS.
SO I GUESS EVERYTHING TODAY IS DONE EXCEPT PAYING THE BILLS.
TRYING TO FIGURE HOW'S THAT? THIS, I JUST CAN'T PAY ANY SALARIES.
SO THEY, THEY STARTED AND WHAT THEY DID, THEY DID NOT COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND WANTED THIS TO MAKE UP THE WHAT? I MEAN WE DO FOR THEM, WE RAISE THEM, THE BUDGET JUST WON'T, WELL OF COURSE I GOT BLAME FOR IT ALL, BUT, UH, UH, THAT'S ONE THOSE GUYS OUT, THAT'S, I'M SAYING YOU ROCK ON COLD WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THAT MONEY.
AND FROM THAT ONE PRECINCT, SOMEBODY MAD WOULD'VE BEEN DOWN THIS.
BUT I'LL SAY THIS, IF ANY OF 'EM WERE STILL AROUND, OF COURSE I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF THEM ARE ROTATED OFF.
BUT WHEN THESE FIRE DISTRICTS WERE ORIGINALLY CREATED, THEY WERE TOLD AT THAT TIME, WE GET OUT OF GIVING FIRE DEPARTMENT MONEY.
AND AS THOSE DISTRICTS, I THINK ONLY ONES GOING UP TO 9 CENTS.
AS THOSE DISTRICTS GO UP TO 9 CENTS, THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT TOGETHER.
SO THAT MAY BE SOME FOR THE FUTURE LEGALLY YOU MEAN? YEAH, WELL WE'RE NOT GIVING IT TO THE ENTITY.
WE'RE GIVING TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO GIVE IT TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZED TO GIVE IT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THE FIRE DISTRICT HAS A CONTRACT WITH
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VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT TALKING ALL OF LIKE YEAH, LIKE, LIKE FORNY WILL HAVE A CONTRACT FOR THAT.FIRE DISTRICT WILL HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THAT.
YEAH, I THOUGHT THEY ONLY NEED A CONTRACT IF THE CITY VOTED DOWN THE ESD, THEN THEY HAD HAVE A CONTRACT COVER THAT AREA.
YOUR PART OF THE CITY, YOUR SDS ARE JUST IN THE RURAL AREA.
NOW CORRECT ME IF I, IS THAT RIGHT OR WRONG? EVERY Y'ALL PAY THE EMERGENCY DISTRICT TAX IN.
YOU DO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ONE.
YEAH, BUT ARE THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF 20 TAXED? I DON'T THINK THERE ARE.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US OUT.
THE, LIKE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN, ARE THEY TAXED FOR RURAL FIRE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE OR NURSING MANAGEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE? OR IS IT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTRY OUTTA CITY LIMITS? I, I'LL GO FIND OUT, BUT I OKAY, I'LL JUST FIND OUT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU GONNA FIND IT.
JUST PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS PAY THAT YOU STATE NIGHT AT THE COUNTRY CLUB.
THIS ME, YOU OTHERWISE I TELL MY WIFE SHE WON INVITE MEMBERSHIPS IN HER.
OKAY, JERRY, WE HAVE THE BOY, WHAT WAS IT THIS TIME NOW? 40,000.
WHAT ARE YOU TRUE CASES OR THAT'S ALMOST HALF TIME.
73 I THINK ONLY OUTSIDE THE CITY.
SEE I DOING, WE SAID CLUB IN THE CITY LIMITS.
THE CITY HAS OWN THAT MIGHT DOCUMENT.
WELL YOU DIDN'T SAY KEMP, YOU SAID AT KAUFMAN.
AND I SAID, AND FORNEY YOU WANT ME TO FIND OUT ABOUT, BUT I KEMP'S GOING BE THE SAME WAY BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAW.
THEY, THEY ONLY, THE RURAL FIRE DISTRICT DISTRICTS WERE CREATED FOR THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.
AND ONLY THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS PAY THAT CHECK.
WELL, BUT THEY, THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, IT'S IN THEIR BUDGET.
AND THAT'S THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE ESD MONEY GOES TO CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
DOES IT NOT IF THEY GIVE IT TO 'EM? NO, IT GOES TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
NOW MAY BE THE SAME ENTITY BUT GOT MEAN IT'S THE SAME ENTITY, BUT WE CAN ONLY GIVE IT TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SEE THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGET.
KIM DOESN'T HAVE, KIM DOESN'T HAVE DEPART, DON'T HAVE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPART.
THEY CONTRACT WITH VOLUNTEER FIRE.
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OH, THESE, THESE ARE NOT THE LAWYERS FEES.
THESE ARE THE CHRISTMAS BONUSES.
BUT THE S THEY'RE, WHERE'D THIS COME FROM? I'M THE LAST ONE BONUS.
JOHNNY DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT HE CAN TAKE YOUR MONEY OUT YOUR PAYCHECK EVERY MONTH.
DON'T SPEND ALL THAT IN ONE PLACE.
IT'S NOT TO GET, DON'T WE GET A DON'T WE GET A 10 99 OR SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GENERATION BIG.
WE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ELECTRONIC RIGHT, RIGHT.
DATABASE THAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO COME TO SIX PEOPLE SIX OR THEY WANT IMAGES FROM CIVIL.
WHERE ARE WE GONNA DRAW? GONNA I THANK YOU.
SEE I WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF RURAL FIRE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.
SO WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT BACK THEN.
JUDGE, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY? HOW KENNEDY VALLEY COLLEGE? IT ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS WE DO ON ROAD BRIDGE BECAUSE THAT BOARD SETS THEIR RIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO, BECAUSE THE VOTERS VOTED THAT IN YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
REALLY? BUT NOW YOUR KIDS CAN GO FOR TRINITY VALLEY IF IT IT'S TUITION FREE.
BUT A CHILD OR GRADUATES COUNTY CAN GO TO, IS THAT JUST CAMAN COUNTY? I MEAN MAINTENANCE OF THESE TAXES THAT PARENTS PAY.
THAT MAY BE THE POINT THIS TIME.
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ASK CASE MURDER, CASE ATTEMPT MURDER OR SOMETHING.THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE I TOLD YOU THE STORY.
I DID A MURDER CASE, SPENT EIGHT MONTHS ON IT, GOT UPON JURY AND SENT A BILL TO THE COUNTY FOR 8,017.
I DIDN'T, GLENN, I TOLD GLEN ONE DAY, I SAID, GLEN, SOMETIMES I LOVE YOU LIKE A BROTHER.
YOU SEE, I KNOW TIMES YOU WANT KILL.
I NOTICED THEY USED JACK YOURSELF BY HOW IT'LL PROBABLY BUSY THURSDAY NIGHT.
WHAT HAPPENED WAS, THEY HAD A, NOT TALKING ABOUT HERE.
NO, THEY HAD PRISON AND THEY, SATURDAY MORNING, MORNING, I WENT DOWN AND GOT A COUPLE COMPOUND DOWN AT THE TANK, KIND EMBEDDED IN THE MUD.
AND I WAS GONNA GO, UH, WORK THEM OUT AND ALREADY TAKE THEM UP.
UH, I WAS WALKING OUT THERE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I LOOKED DOWN AND ABOUT FROM HERE TO THE TABLE WITH A SNAKE GIRL.
NOW HERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO THE LAST DAY IN
I JUMPED AND HE STARTED ACTING.
THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, I AGGRESS.
I HAD MY PISTOL ON BY, GOT A PISTOL.
HE'D ALREADY GONE UNDER SOME BRUSH THERE.
SO I SHOT INTO THE BRUSH COUPLE TIMES, BUT I NEVER DID FIND IT.
WELL, IF YOU GO DOWNSTAIRS, I, YOU GOTTA WATCH.
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I DON'T CARE.AND WHEN YOU, RIGHT HERE AND THEN IN NANCY'S ONE RIGHT THERE.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, THE MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS.
COMMISSIONER SHANE WILL SECOND IT.
UH, LIKE TO SAY TRANSPORTATION MEETING IN THE MORNING WITH TEXTILE HERE IN THIS ROOM AT NINE 30 CUP, I, SORRY, ED, WITH COUNCIL GOVERNMENT.
ED, YOU, YOU KNOW WHERE THAT COME FROM.
ANYBODY HERE KNOW COMES A MARINE.
WE THE AIR FORCE GUYS JUST DON'T AURN.
MOTION TO AUR AND COMMISSIONER CLARK.