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REMEMBER JC YES, MAN IN THAT CHAIR.
ALRIGHT, MR. I'LL BE TO JUDGE.
MR. GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THINK THESE WERE THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER ON A BEAUTIFUL MORNING LIKE THIS TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.
PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS.
UH, WE THANK THESE WERE THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT THOU HAS GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, WE THANK THEY FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL WEATHER THAT'S COME TODAY.
AS USUAL, LOOK DOWN UPON OUR TROOPS OF FAVOR AND BRING THEM BACK TO SAFETY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ON THE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, COMMISSIONER S ONE GROUP THAT YOU FAILED TO PRAY FOR.
AND THAT'S OUR STATE LEGISLATURE, WHICH WE, I WE NEED SOME GUIDANCE AND HELP, I'M SURE.
I THOUGHT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE ACCUSED OF ALL THAT.
UH, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY WERE PROVIDED OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, KATHY MORRIS.
UH, KATHY HAD, UH, AND I HAD A DISCUSSION HERE A WHILE BACK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCIES IN OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS, AND SHE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THESE, UH, AUTOMATED, AUTOMATED, UH, EXTERNAL YEAR DEFIBRILLATOR.
HOW ABOUT THAT? ANYWAY, SO WE, WE DISCUSSED IT AND WE THOUGHT, UH, WE'D LIKE TO SEE A DEMONSTRATION ON IT.
UH, KATHY'S ARRANGED IT AND, UH, WITH, WITH THE IDEA OF IF THEY'RE NOT TOO EXPENSIVE, UH, CONSIDER PUTTING ONE IN, IN OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS, PARTICULARLY THE MAIN COURTHOUSE AND THE, UH, SUB COURTHOUSES.
KATHY, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU NOW.
ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT THAT, UH, A LOT OF GOVERNMENT FACILITIES HAVE THESE NOW, AND WE DID, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COURTROOMS AND SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE GET A LITTLE TENSE NOTICE, WHATEVER.
IN FACT, OUT OUR FACILITY, I WAS TOLD THAT WE HAD A GUY THAT WAS HAVING CHEST PAINS AND HAD HE HAD A HEART ATTACK IS COMING USEFUL AS IT WAS.
WE KNOW, GAS, ASPIRIN AND GOING TO THE HOSPITAL.
BUT, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, DID I GIVE Y'ALL A LIST OF HOW MANY KIND OF FACILITIES WE HAD LOOKED, LOOKED AT? BECAUSE I KNOW I THREW UP THE REQUEST FOR THE AGENDA AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I PAGE IT WITH IT.
THE REASON THERE ARE THREE LISTED AT THE COURTHOUSE IS BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE ONE ON EACH FLOOR.
UM, ONE AT THE ANNEX HERE, THE SOUTH CAMPUS'S, TWO FACILITIES, SEPARATE FACILITIES OUT THERE NEED TWO.
AND EACH ONE OF THE 40 KEMP'S SUB COURT HAS NEED ONE.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE ANY IN THEIR OFFICE FACILITIES.
THEY HAVE THEM BACK IN THE JAIL, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY IN THE OFFICE, AND THERE'S NOT ONE IN THE LOBBY.
SO THERE'LL BE THREE, TWO FLOORS AND IN THE LOBBY, AND IF Y'ALL WANT THEM AT THE BARNS, THERE'S LADY BARN THAT WOULD
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HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TODAY.I'M NOT GONNA HAVE PRICES TODAY.
THE WOMAN THAT'S REPRESENTED FROM THE COUNTRY, THE COUNTRY'S COMPANY, SHE HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY AND COME UP, BE HERE TODAY, AND SHE CALLED THIS GENTLEMAN AT LAST MINUTE, SAID, COULD YOU PLEASE JUST GO OUT AND DO THE DEMO? I CAN GET PRICING LATER ON THIS WEEK.
SHE'LL GET WITH ME BACK ON THIS WEEK AND I'LL SEND Y'ALL AN EMAIL PLACEMENT ON AND PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
SO THE SECOND ITEM I NEED THE TABLE TO, FOR THE
I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION, BUT SINCE HE CAME FROM DALLAS THIS MORNING, I'LL LET HIM DO THE DEMO.
UM, EAST TEXAS, I WENT THROUGH THEM AND USED THE SAME TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY USE, WHICH IS STANDARD ON ALL OF THEIR AMBULANCES AND ALL OF THE FIRE EQUIPMENT THAT HAVE THEM.
AND THE REASON THAT'S GOOD IS BECAUSE IF ONE OF THEIR SPELLS, THEY COULD JUST COME IN AND GET WHAT WE'VE GOT AND IT'S THE SAME THING THAT THEY'RE USED TO USING.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KEITH.
GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE.
THANK Y'ALL FOR, UH, LETTING US COME TODAY AND ACTUALLY PRESENT TO YOU AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF MS. ROBERTS.
UH, SUDDEN DEATH IN THE FAMILY.
SO SHE'S TAKING CARE OF THOSE THINGS RIGHT NOW.
UM, BASICALLY I REPRESENT A COMPANY CALLED MEDTRONIC PHYSIO CONTROL.
WE'RE DIVISION OF MEDTRONIC, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, WITH MEDTRONIC.
MEDTRONIC BASICALLY HAS, UH, UH, IMPLANTABLE DEFIBRILLATORS, PACEMAKERS.
UH, THEY DO, UH, PAIN STIMULATORS AND WE ALSO DO EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS.
PHYSIO CONTROL HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 50 YEARS, UH, AND, UH, HAS HAD THE LIFE PACK BRAND DEFIBRILLATORS FOR QUITE SOME TIME FOR THAT WHOLE, FOR ALL THOSE 50 YEARS,
UH, ONE OF THE PHYSICIANS WHO STARTED OUR COMPANY IS THE GENTLEMAN WHO ACTUALLY INVENTED IT, UH, IN SHORT AEDS.
AUTOMATIC EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS ARE BASICALLY TO HELP FOLKS WITH SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST.
UH, THE OUT OF HOSPITAL SURVIVAL RATE BEING, IF YOU'RE NOT IN A HOSPITAL AND YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE A SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST OR A SUDDEN CARDIAC DEATH, UH, YOUR SURVIVAL RATE AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO ALL THE STATISTICS, IS ABOUT 5%.
THE, UH, RELATIVE STUDIES AND INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE, WERE DONE WITH AEDS, WERE DONE AT A CASINO.
THERE WAS ONE STUDY DONE IN A CASINO, UH, WHICH IS KIND OF INTERESTING, BUT, UH, IT DID SHOW SOME GOOD STATISTICS, GOOD INFORMATION.
UH, IF YOU THINK OF A CASINO, THINK OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE.
THEY HAVE SECURITY EVERYWHERE.
SO THE RESPONSE TIMES CAN BE VERY QUICK.
UH, THE SHORTEST DURATION OF THE TIME WHENEVER A PATIENT ACTUALLY COLLAPSED ON A CASINO FLOOR WITH A SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY JUST LOST, OR ONE OR ONE EXACTLY THE TIME WAS ANYWHERE FROM OF RESPONSE WAS ANYWHERE FROM 50 SECONDS TO LESS THAN TWO MINUTES.
AND THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND THE AEDS, IS TO HAVE A QUICK RESPONSE AND GET A SHOTGUN BOARD AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
THE SURVIVAL, UH, TO THE HOSPITAL WAS AT 75%, WHICH IS HUGE.
THE SURVIVAL 30 DAYS RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL WAS 50%, WHICH IS EVEN BIGGER BECAUSE OUR IDEA IS TO GET YOU OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.
RIGHT?
AND I'M SORRY, DO YOU MIND IF I ASK, UH, WHAT IS TYPICAL RESPONSE TIME HERE IN THE CITY? HERE IN THE CITY? IT WILL BE ABOUT FOUR MINUTES.
AND THE, AND, UH, THE COUNTY IS LIKE 1250, AND THAT'S TIME FROM NINE ONE ONE CALL TO ON SCENE OR SINCE WE GET THREE KEY, UH, ITEMS OF INFORMATION THROUGH, THAT WOULD BE THE LOCATION CALLBACK NUMBER IN THE NATURE, AND THAT'S WHEN THE CLOCK STARTS TO, OKAY, SO ABOUT FOUR MINUTES? YES.
I MEAN, THE THING THAT THESE GENTLEMEN ARE DEALING WITH IS GETTING THERE.
AMERICAN, AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION.
I ACTUALLY RECOMMENDS THAT YOU GET A SHOCK ON BOARD AS QUICK AS THREE MINUTES, BUT WE'RE ALREADY ONE MINUTE BEYOND THAT.
NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S ALSO HOW LONG HAS THIS PATIENT PARTICULAR PATIENT BEEN DOWN? WAS IT A WITNESS CARDIAC ARREST? IN OTHER WORDS, I'M STANDING RIGHT HERE AND YOU ALL SEE ME COLLAPSE.
OR WAS IT I WALKED INTO A ROOM AND FOUND YOU, SO I HAD NO IDEA IF I FIND YOU, HOW LONG POTENTIALLY YOU'VE BEEN DOWN.
SO THE IDEA IS TO GET THAT SHOP ONBOARD AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
SO THEY DEVELOPED AEDS IN THE, IN THE, IN THE INTEREST OF COURSE SURVIVABILITY.
AND TO DEVELOP A TECHNOLOGY THAT'S EASY TO USE FOR ANY PERSON, IT DOESN'T MATTER EDUCATION LEVELS AS LONG.
AS LONG AS YOU CAN HEAR
THE, UH, FIRST ONE IS THE CR PLUS.
THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONES THAT ARE MOSTLY PUT IN COURTHOUSES, UH, BECAUSE OF THE EASE OF USE.
AND YOU'RE GONNA NOTICE HERE, FIRST THINGS FIRST IS HOW DO I KNOW IF THIS THING IS OKAY? RIGHT UP HERE AT THE TOP OF THE DEVICE, THERE'S A PRODUCT, UH, EXCUSE ME, A AN LCD THAT SAYS IT'S
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OKAY.SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT LITERALLY SAYS THAT IT'S OKAY.
SO ALL YOU HAVE TO DO FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT IS WALK BY THE DEVICE.
AND AS LONG AS THAT SAYS, OKAY, YOU GOTTA HAVE BETTER GLASSES,
IF THERE'S EVER A BATTERY ICON, IF THERE'S EVER A BATTERY ICON UP HERE, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A, POTENTIALLY A LOW POWER CELL.
YOU NEED TO GET THAT REPLACED.
UH, AS FAR AS USE, THEY DO COME IN THESE CA CA UH, CARRYING CASES.
AND THEN AS FAR AS ACTUALLY USING THE DEVICE, WHAT YOU'LL DO IS ON THIS PARTICULAR UNIT, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY JUST PUSH THIS BUTTON.
THIS IS A REAL UNIT, IT'S A FUNCTIONING DEVICE.
SO AS YOU CAN HEAR, IT'S BARELY REMOVE CLOTHING FROM CHEST.
FAIRLY GOOD SPEAKER QUALITY BECAUSE IN A STRESSFUL MOMENT, RIGHT, YOU WILL, UH, SOMETIMES HAVE BE HARD OF HEARING
I WAS A POLICE OFFICER FOR A WHILE, SO I CAN TELL YOU THIS COLD, RED HANDLE TO OPEN BAG.
WE'LL KIND OF TURN THAT OFF FOR MINUTE.
I WAS A POLICE OFFICER FOR A WHILE AND I CAN REMEMBER WHENEVER I FIRST STARTED, AND THE SHERIFF PROBABLY CAN IDENTIFY WITH THIS, WHENEVER HE FIRST STARTED AS WELL, MY FIRST PURSUIT TUNNEL VISION,
AND ALL I COULD SEE WAS THAT LICENSE PLATE ON THAT CAR.
YOU KNOW, DURING THESE STRESSFUL MOMENTS, SOMETIMES THE SAME THING MAY HAPPEN.
IT'S LIFE OR DEATH, RIGHT? SO WE TRY TO MAKE THIS THING AS AS EASY TO USE AS POSSIBLE.
SO AGAIN, YOU OPEN THE DOOR, REMOVE CLOTHING FROM CHEST, AND YOU JUST FOLLOW THE PROMPTS.
SHE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT TO REMOVE THE CLOTHING FROM THE CHEST, AND YOU WANT A BARE CHEST TO PUT THE PADS ON, PULL RED HANDLE TO OPEN BAG.
SO YOU WOULD PULL THIS RED HANDLE TO THE VEST, PEEL EACH PAD OFF BLUE PLASTIC AND APPLY PADS TO EXPOSED CHEST, REMOVE CLOTHING FROM CHEST.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE VOICE PROMPTS ON THIS DEVICE.
NOW, TO SHOW YOU, EXCUSE ME, AN ACTUAL LIVE FIRE.
THIS IS THE LIFE PACK 1000, ANOTHER DEVICE THAT HAS GONE INTO COUNTY FACILITIES AS WELL AS WITH EMS. IF, UH, YOU TURN THE DEVICE ON, PUSH ANALYZE, I'VE GOT A LITTLE FAKE PATIENT OVER HERE,
SO IN THIS CASE, I WOULD ACTUALLY PUSH THE ANALYZE BUTTON, STAND CLEAR ANALYZING.
AND THIS IS A LIVE DEVICE AS WHAT? STAND CLEAR PUSH SHOCK BUTTON.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT THERE.
AND THE FLASHING RED BUTTON HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL CAN SEE THAT.
FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, THE FLASHING RED BUTTON, YOU'LL ACTUALLY PUSH THE BUTTON.
OKAY? PUSH ANALYZE, STAND CLEAR, AND THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN, ANALYZING.
NOW, STAND CLEAR, STAND CLEAR, PUSH SHOCK BUTTON.
AND IT JUST DELIVERED THE ENERGY.
IT SAYS ENERGY DELIVERED START CPR.
AND THEN IT GIVES YOU A, UH, KIND OF A CARTOON TYPE OF CHARACTER SHOWING YOU HOW TO DO OR SHOWING YOU TO DO CPR.
OKAY? SO AS FAR AS SIMPLICITY, IT'S VERY, VERY EASY TO USE.
THE DEVICE WILL DELIVER UP TO 360 JOULES UNLESS YOU'RE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER
UH, IT'S, IT'S A FORM OF ENERGY IS WHAT IT IS, IS WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO.
THE REASON WHY, UH, EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE AREA SELECTED OUR PRODUCT IS BECAUSE WE DO GO TO 360 JOULES.
THERE ARE OTHER COMPETITIVE PRODUCTS OUT THERE THAT STOP AT 200 AND SOME THAT STOP AT ONE 50.
UH, THE WAY THAT I LIKE TO EXPLAIN IT THE BEST, THERE'S RESEARCH OUT THERE THAT WE COULD SHOW YOU A BUNCH OF FANCY RESEARCH
AND SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE GO TO 360 JOULES.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH OBVIOUSLY TO BACK THAT UP.
UM, AS FAR AS BATTERIES AND EVERYTHING THERE, THERE IS A BATTERY IN THIS DEVICE.
UH, THE BATTERY'S ROUGHLY ABOUT A FIVE YEAR BATTERY.
AGAIN, IF IT SAYS OKAY, IT'S OKAY, IN THIS DEVICE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THERE IS, UH, AN INTERNAL BATTERY IN HERE THAT LASTS FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN, UH, A CHARGE PACK, WHICH ACTUALLY TRICKLE CHARGES THE BATTERY ITSELF.
NOW, WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS THAT AFTER YOU USE THE DEVICE, YOU REPLACE THE PADS AND THAT PARTICULAR TRIPLE CHARGER, OKAY, THAT'S
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ROUGHLY ABOUT A $90, UH, PURCHASE.UH, THAT PARTICULAR TRICKLE CHARGER WILL LAST.
THE EXTENT OF THE LIFE OF THE PADS.
THE PADS ARE TWO YEAR PADS, AND THE TRICKLE CHARGER WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED EVERY TWO YEARS, JUST LIKE THE PADS WILL.
ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT DO THE PADS LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT GREAT QUESTION.
I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE GREAT BIG HANDLES, BUT
WANT THAT GOING OFF WHILE I'M TALKING?
OBVIOUSLY YOU TEAR THAT OPEN UP.
THIS TEARS UP WHEN YOU PULL THE RED HANDLE.
IS THERE ANY DANGER OF, UH, GIVING THIS TO SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT HAVING A HEART ATTACK AND, UH, INJURING THEM AND GREAT QUESTION.
THE, UH, THE SCIENCE BEHIND THE PRODUCT IS SIMILAR TO THE SCIENCE THAT'S IN AN IMPLANTABLE AND FIBRILLAR.
IF, IF ANYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH THOSE, UM, THE, THE DEVICE WILL DO ACTUALLY, WHENEVER IT SAYS PUSH ANALYZE, AND IN THE BACKGROUND, IT'S CHECKING THE PATIENT'S RHYTHM.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT DOES TWO OUTTA THREE RHYTHM CHECKS.
IF TWO OUTTA THREE, THE RHYTHMS ARE SHOCKABLE RHYTHM, THE ADVISE TO SHOCK.
UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY REPORTS IN THE 15 YEAR, 20 YEARS.
WE'VE HAD THESE OUT, UH, OF, OF THE DEVICE ACTUALLY SHOCKING A PATIENT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE.
NOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE ELECTRICAL PRODUCTS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS DO ARISE.
UM, BUT AS OF TODAY, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT.
NOW, MY EMS COUNTERPARTS MAY BE ABLE TO SAY, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT.
THERE'S NO DATA OUT THERE THAT I KNOW OF THAT SUPPORTS
OKAY? SO IT REALLY DOES, UH, DO A GOOD JOB AT DETECTING THE RHYTHM AND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S A SHOCKABLE.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T WANNA HOOK IT UP TO A PATIENT WHO'S STILL BREATHING OR ALERT AND CONSCIOUS
BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER SUBJECT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU MAYBE TALK TO THE SHERIFF.
BUT YOU KNOW, NOW, I MEAN, YOU, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE A PATIENT WHO'S NOT BREATHING UNCONSCIOUS, YOU KNOW, NOT RESPONSIVE, ALL THOSE THINGS.
BUT, UH, THE DEVICE IS SIMPLY JUST, IT'S NOT GOING TO SHOCK A PATIENT THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SHOCKED.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY INCIDENTS OF THAT HAPPENING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT TO SAY? I'M NOT FROM CITY OF CLAND.
SO OUR RESPONSE TIMES WERE GREATER FOR EAST TEXAS, 12, 13 MINUTES MM-HMM
AND WE WERE THE FIRST DEPARTMENT OF THE COUNTY TO GET AN A AND D WAY BACK WHEN THEY WAS BEFORE EAST TEXAS.
AND IN THE 10 OR 12 YEARS WE'VE HAD ONE, IT PROBABLY, WE'VE USED IT 25 TIMES.
AND ALL THOSE 25 TIMES I KNOW OF FIVE SAVES THAT THIS DEVICE BROUGHT 'EM BACK UNTIL EAST TEXAS OR WHATEVER, USUALLY GOT THERE AND DOWN THE HOSPITAL.
AND THEY'RE STILL ALIVE TODAY.
SO I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT, UH, THESE THINGS DO WORK.
I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW HIM
THAT WASN'T A PLAN I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT.
MOST OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, YOU IN THE COUNTY, YOU HAVE 8, 10, 12 MINUTE RESPONSE TIME.
AND THE FOUR MINUTE RESPONSE TIME'S PROBABLY GONNA BE LIMITED TO TERRE, FORNEY, AND KAUFMAN.
EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND THE RESPONSE TIME IS, IS IS PROBABLY IMPORTANT, THE WHOLE SITUATION, THE QUICKER YOU CAN GET THERE, THE BETTER OFF THE PATIENT WILL BE.
EVEN WITH THE AEDS, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU PUT 'EM AT, I CAN SEE IT BEING A SUB COURTHOUSE 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S IN, BUT THOSE THAT HAVE BARNS, I, BY THE TIME YOU GET THE A, ED AND GET BACK TO THAT PERSON, IF IT'S THE EMPLOYEE MM-HMM
IT WON'T BE ANY GREAT RESPONSE TIME THAN THE AM IN THERE.
I I THINK IF THEY'RE OUT IN THE FIELD SOMEWHERE WORKING ON ROADS OR SOMETHING, YEAH, SOMETHING HAPPEN BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK TO THE PLACE WHERE THE AED IS MM-HMM
AND THEN GET BACK TO THEM, THE RESPONSE TIME BE YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY ACCURATE, BUT THE COURTHOUSE LIKE THIS WITH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT SAYING? YEAH.
WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY INSTANCE, UH, INSTANCES WHERE LIKE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION'S PUTTING 'EM ON EVERY VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY HAVE CREWS OUT WORKING,
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UH, THEY'LL HAVE MAYBE ONE ON A SUPERVISOR TRUCK, BUT THE SUPERVISOR'S NOT ALWAYS THERE.UM, AND SO THEY TYPICALLY WILL RELY ON EMS RESPONSE, UH, AND GOOD QUALITY CPR PRIOR TO EMS ARRIVING, UH, THERE IS A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT IF, UH, IF YOU CAN GIVE GOOD QUALITY CPR, THE PROBLEM IS NOT EVERYBODY'S TRAINED ON HOW TO DO THAT.
UH, THAT YOU STILL CAN, UH, HAVE GOOD SURVIVABILITY, UH, IF GIVEN GOOD CPR FOR THE MINUTES PRIOR TO EMS ARRIVAL.
UH, BUT THE CHALLENGE IS NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO CPR, UH, KATHY IN A SITUATION, I SAY WE WORKED TO HAVE ONE ON EACH FLOOR AT THE COURTHOUSE.
WILL THERE BE ONE PERSON ON EACH FLOOR WHO'S, WHO'S ACTUALLY TRAINED IN OR WHO ACTUALLY SAYS YES, USE IT, OR, I THINK HE IS THE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE.
I THINK FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST DEMONSTRATE HOW IT WORKS SO THEY'LL BE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
ANYBODY, WHEN I FIRST, SOMEBODY CAME BY, GOSH, ABOUT FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO, A VENDOR CAME BY WHEN WE WERE DOWN THERE IN THE BASEMENT.
AND THE WAY THEY PUT IT, ANYBODY COULD USE THESE, THEY'RE THAT SIMPLE TO USE.
ANYBODY CAN, BUT I THINK IT'D BE JUST A GOOD IDEA IF WE COULD, IF YOU DECIDE TO GET THEM TO JUST SHOW THE EMPLOYEES, GIVE THE, GIVE THE EMPLOYEES MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF FIRST AID AND CPR REFRESHERS.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE HAD A CPR CLASS.
I THINK THE LAST LINE I HAD WAS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, BUT I STILL REMEMBER HOW TO DO IT.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT.
IF YOU WANT TO GET THEM, WE CAN DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH SEAN, HOW THE CLASSES WORK.
WELL, AND AS THE COMPANY, WE WILL PROVIDE THE TRAINING ON THE DEVICES AS WELL.
IF THE PERSON'S NOT BREATHING, I IT'S OBVIOUS SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I, YOU KNOW, CHANCE OF DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR BETTER THAN NOT DOING ANYTHING AT ALL.
I WAS JUST THINKING, AND JOHN'S PROBABLY RUNNING IT THROUGH HIS MIND, A GOOD SAMARITAN THEORY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA HELP SOMEBODY, THAT'S FINE, BUT DON'T BE NEGLIGENT WHEN YOU HELP 'EM.
OR YOU COULD BE ILL RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ENOUGH SAFEGUARDS IN THERE TO PRETTY MUCH WHERE YOU'RE NOT GONNA SHOCK SOMEBODY.
I, I THINK IT'S MUCH ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES AS FAR AS LIABILITY GOES.
I THINK EMPLOYEE WOULD BE HAPPY TO, THAT EVERYBODY TRY TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEM.
BUT AN OUTSIDER COME IN FOR JURY DUTY OR A FAMILY OF A PERSON BEING CONVICTED OF MURDER, GOING TO THE ELECTRIC CHAIR OR OF, OF THE, UH, GAS CHAMBER OR THE, UH, SHOT MACHINE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE, THEY'D HAVE A GRUDGE AGAINST CANADA TO BEGIN WITH.
THERE'S ACTUALLY, JUDGE, THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN SOME LEGAL ARGUMENTS, UH, LAWSUITS WITH RESPECT TO FOLKS THAT DID NOT HAVE THEM ON PREM, UH, VERSUS FOLKS WHO DID.
I CAN GET YOU OR GET YOU SOME COPIES OF THAT, OF THOSE, UH, DECISIONS.
UH, THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR ONE INVOLVING THE AIRLINES WHERE PARTICULAR AIRLINE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, A ED ON THE PLANE AND THE PATIENT, A PERSON DID COLLAPSE ON THE PLANE.
UH, SO, BUT I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME OF THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
NOW YOU SAID, ARE YOU, IS YOUR COMPANY THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THE, THE 360 MEGA OF WHATEVER OH, 360 JEWELS? WELL, WE'RE, AS FAR AS ABS GO, UH, YOU'VE GOT A COMPANY CALLED CARDIAC SCIENCE, WHICH WILL GO 360 JEWELS.
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK, I KNOW ZO AND PHILLIPS DO NOT.
PHILLIPS GOES TO ONE 50 AND ZO GOES TO 200.
UH, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A SOLE SOURCE PROVIDER THEN? I WOULDN'T SAY SO.
JACK WOULD COME INTO PLAY ON THAT.
JUDGE, I WOULD ASSUME THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME KIND OF STATE CONTRACT PRICING, UH, FEDERAL PRICING, AND I WOULD ASSUME WE MIGHT ALSO WANT TO USE THE SAME PRODUCT THAT THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS USE WOULD BE A BENEFIT.
UM, THERE MIGHT BE IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING WE CAN UTILIZE.
YEAH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS OUR PRODUCTS.
UH, THE HOSPITAL HAS OUR PRODUCTS.
AND THE REASON WHY IN SOME RESPECTS THAT'S IMPORTANT, STANDARDIZATION WITH REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WHEN EMS ARRIVES ON THE SCENE, AND LET'S SAY YOU HAD A PHILLIPS DEVICE, WELL, THEY HAVE LIFE PACK AND THEY HAVE TO RIP THE PADS OFF THE PATIENT'S CHEST AND PUT NEW ONES ON.
WELL, THAT IS TIME THAT DELAYS TREATMENT POTENTIALLY BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO TAKE ACTION TO CHANGE THINGS VERSUS WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVICE, THIS CONNECTOR FITS THEIR LIFE PACKS THAT'S ON THEIR TRUCKS.
SO ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS UNPLUG FROM THE AAV PLUG RIGHT IN NUMBER ONE.
IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THE PATIENT.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING A WAX JOB,
IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, MR. DALLAS HAIRY
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CHEST, UH, THEY'LL TAKE A PAIR OF PADS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE CLEAN SHAVEN FOR THESE TO ADHE TO YOU.THEY'LL TAKE A PAIR OF PADS, THEY'LL PLACE IT ON THE PATIENT, RIP 'EM
WHAT ABOUT DALLAS FIRE? THEY DON'T FILL IT.
SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS IS EASE OF USE AND THEN ALSO STANDARDIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A QUICK TRANSITION OVER.
BUT NO, WE ARE NOT THE ONLY PROVIDER OF 360 JEWELS.
CARDIAC SCIENCE WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE A EB WORLD THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT HAS THAT CAPABILITY RIGHT NOW.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LIZ HAD TOLD ME ON THE PHONE ABOUT THE 360, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, SHE SAID, BUT, UM, IF YOU'VE GOT A, A LARGE PERSON OR AN OVERWEIGHT PERSON, THE 360 YEAH.
NOT BE AN OVERWEIGHT PERSON,
UH, BUT IT HAS CHANGED THE WAY IN SOME OF THE WAY THAT THE, SOME OF THE PRE-HOSPITAL MEDICAL DIRECTORS PROVIDE CARE.
UH, ONE PARTICULAR PHYSICIAN, DR.
YADA IN THE METROPLEX, UH, HAS DESIGNATED A, A PATIENT WEIGHS MORE THAN 90 KILOGRAMS OR 200 POUNDS THAT YOU START ALL SHOCKS OF 360.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF A PARTICULAR STUDY THAT CAME OUT THAT SHOWED A PATIENT WEIGHING GREATER THAN 90 KILOS.
UH, 200 JOULES, 300 JOULES WASN'T GONNA WORK.
AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THEY GOT THE 360 THAT ACTUALLY WORKED.
UH, BECAUSE SIZE IS AN IMPEDIMENT SOMETIMES TO, UH, DELIVERING DOSES OF A MEDICATION.
IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU TAKE, UH, A BLOOD PRESSURE PILL.
YOU KNOW, UM, YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE DOSAGE MAY IS DIFFERENT THAN MINE AND DIFFERENT THAN YOURS.
UH, WE DON'T WALK AROUND, UNFORTUNATELY, WITH A STAMP ON OUR FOREHEAD THAT SAYS, IF I GO INTO CARDIAC ARREST, 200 JUULS IS WHAT SAVES ME
ONE, ARE STOOLS REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE, AND IF SO, WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHAT ARE THEY USING? STATE OF TEXAS JUST MANDATED? UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AND FORGIVE ME, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY A HOSPITAL REP,
PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE, FOR SOME REASON, WE'RE HAVING A LOT MORE STUDENTS COLLAPSE NOW THAN HAS BEEN IN THE HISTORY.
UH, AND SO THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED THAT CHANGE AND MADE THAT HAPPEN.
AS FAR AS WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HERE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT KATHY, COMMISSIONER JACKSON, THIS BEING YOUR AREA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, HIS PRESENTATION? NO, I THINK HE WENT OVER THE PRE PRESENTATION.
UH, WELL, UH, MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE A ED, IT DOES WORK, UH, IN THE SITUATION.
UH, BUT, UH, ON YOUR A ED, UH, ACCORDING TO YOUR WEIGHT, DOES IT DELIVERS DIFFERENT WATTS ON THE SHOTS.
UHHUH, WE'VE GOT, UH, GO AHEAD.
DOES IT, DOES IT JUST START OUT LIKE A HUNDRED WATTS? IT GOES TO 200.
THEY TAKE YOU 360, UH, BECAUSE IF YOU GOT SOMEBODY THAT WEIGH 90 POUNDS MM-HMM
YOU DON'T PUNCH IT IN THAT HE WEIGHS 90 POUNDS.
THE MACHINES HAS TO KNOW YEAH.
THAT THEY DON'T, THAT DOESN'T DELIVER TOO WATCH TO WHAT ARE DEVICES DO AND WHAT ALL BI THESE ARE, THIS IS CALLED A BIPHASIC DEFI ENGINE JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
UH, BIPHASIC 1 0 1 REAL QUICK MEANS THAT WHEN YOU PUT THE PADS ON, IT SENDS CURRENT, 60% OF THE CURRENT GOES FROM THIS CHEST PAD OVER TO THIS ONE.
IT FLIPS AROUND AND 40% GOES BACK THE WAY THAT THIS BIPHASIC WORK, OR, OR ESSENTIALLY THIS, A JUUL IS A, IS BASICALLY A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA AND IT'S CURRENT TIMES VOLTAGE, TIMES TIME.
UH, WHEN WE PUT THE PADS ON, WHEN YOU PLACE THE PADS ON, THERE'S A SIGNAL THAT'S SENT FROM THIS PAD TO THIS PAD.
AND WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY DOES IS IT DETECTS WHAT'S KNOWN AS IMPEDANCE OR RESISTANCE TO SHOCK.
UM, AND BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES THEN IS I TOLD YOU THAT THE, THE JUULS ARE PART OF A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA, CURRENT VOLTAGE IN TIME.
AND WHAT WE ESSENTIALLY DO, SIR, IS WE INCREASE THE VOLTAGE OR WE INCREASE THE TIME OR DURATION OF THE SHOCK THAT THE CURRENT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CHEST WALL IN ORDER TO COMPENSATE FOR PATIENT IMPEDED IMPEDANCE LEVELS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A VERY LARGE PATIENT, IT WILL INCREASE THE VOLTAGE AND THE TIME AND ORDER TO COMPENSATE FOR THOSE CHANGES.
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OUR OUR AMPERAGE THOUGH, THAT WE SEND OUT, UH, INITIALLY IS 20 AMPS.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, MY COMMENT WOULD BE, UH, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE IT AND I THINK 16 WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER, APPROPRIATE NUMBER.
UH, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
VICKY HAD JUST TOLD ME BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED THAT SHE HEARD OF GRANTS TO GET THESE, SO SHE'S GONNA HELP ME CHECK OUT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING STILL AVAILABLE.
IF THERE ARE, WE CAN TRY THAT AVENUE.
AND, UH, I'LL JUST GIVE A LIST SOMETIME THIS WEEK.
SEE, THEY GAVE THE PRICES ON THE, ON THE DEVICES THEMSELVES, AND I'LL PUT ME BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
AND LET JACK KNOW WHERE HE CAN COMPARE AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OF THE, UH, INTER LOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN.
WE'VE ALREADY, YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
'CAUSE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A BALLPARK FIGURE OF, OF WHAT THESE MIGHT COST AND I, I HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION ALREADY, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S, WE'RE ALL NO RESEARCH IN THAT, THAT ONE.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO COME DOWN AND PRESENT THIS TO THANK YOU.
AND KATHY, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT PRESENTATION TOGETHER FOR THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, TABLE THE, UH, PRESSING OF THOSE FOR THE PRESENT TIME MOTION MADE BY MR. COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.
UH, VISITED WITH ME, UH, ABOUT IMPROVING OUR, UH, JURY SELECTION PLAN.
AND WE SENT Y'ALL A COPY OF WHAT THE JUDGE
AND, UH, BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, UH, WHEN YOU REGISTERED TO VOTE, UH, THE VOTER REGISTRAR WOULD HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND ON THE LITTLE, I BEEN PRINTED OUT LITTLE TABS.
SO THE GIRLS IN THE OFFICE, IN MY OFFICE ACTUALLY WOULD TEAR THOSE APART AND THEN TAKE THEM IN AND PUT 'EM IN A BIG IRON WHEEL, UM, AND, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
AND THEN, UH, EVERY THREE MONTHS THE JUDGES WOULD GO IN AND SPIN THAT WHEEL AND THEN PULL OUT ONE NAME AT A TIME.
AND FINALLY, WHEN THE COMPUTERS CAME ALONG, THEN IT WAS BEING DONE WITH COMPUTER.
AND THEN THE LEGISLATURE IN ITS WISDOM SAID, OKAY, WELL YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ELIGIBLE TO, UH, VOTE.
IF YOU HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, YOU'RE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, IT GOT OUTTA HAND THERE FOR A WHILE.
BUT ANYWAY, JUDGE TIGER AND JUDGE CHITTY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO APPROVE THIS, UH, PLAN THAT THEY HAVE.
JUDGE, YOU'RE KIND OF DATING YOURSELF.
INSTEAD, YOU PREDATE COMPUTERS.
BECAUSE I DUNNO WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.
IF THE DISTRICT JUDGE SAYS, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THIS DONE, AND IT'S NOT COSTING THE COUNTY ANY MONEY, I, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF HIS PLAN AFTER WE OKAY.
IT'S, I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING, JUST THAT SINCE WE'VE CREATED ANOTHER DISTRICT COURT, THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING PLAN DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT.
I THINK THAT ONLY THING, THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY REAL CHANGES IN THIS OR IF THEY JUST LINED IT OUT MORE SPECIFICALLY AS TO HOW IT, HOW IT'D BE DONE.
YOU'D STILL DO IT ON THE COMPUTER, BUT IF THEY THINK IT WOULD WORK, THEN I'M ALL FOR WELL, I SEE ONE, NO, NO.
DESIGNEE MAY RELEASE A PROSPECTIVE JUROR FOR AN ECONOMIC REASON UNLESS EACH PARTY OF RECORD IS PRESENT APPROVES
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THE RELEASE OF THE JUROR THAT'S NEVER BEEN IN THERE BEFORE.WELL, THE PLAN WE WERE WORKING UNDER WAS DONE IN 1995.
SO IT'S ALREADY 18 YEARS OLD YOU YEAH.
SO YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME THAT THE LAW PASSED.
IF YOU HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSE, YOU COULD, OKAY, WELL, 2005 WHEN WE CHANGED THAT, WASN'T IT NOVEMBER, 2005? THAT'S THE LATEST.
YEAH, THAT'S THE LATEST, UH, CHANGE TO THE STATUTE.
I THINK THAT DRIVER'S LICENSE BEEN IN BEFORE 2005 MAKE IT EFFECTIVE FOUR YEARS.
AND I THINK IT WAS THAT MADE THAT, THAT EFFECTIVE DATE IN THE, AND THEN AGAIN, YOU MAY BE CORRECT.
SINCE I HADN'T PICKED A JURY, I SAID, WELL, BUT I SEE NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T APPROVE THEIR REQUEST HERE TO, UH, APPROVE THEIR JURY SELECTION PLAN.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
UH, NEXT WE WANT TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE BONDS FOR RICHARD MURPHY, DAVID BURNS, GERALD ROW, SANDERS, AND SHELLY P.
JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION IF YOU WOULD.
I THINK, SHERIFF, YOU WANT A SECOND? IT, I THINK YOU NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF SECOND.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
JI UNDERSTAND YOU'LL WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK.
UH, NEXT ONE TO CONSIDER CONTINUED PARTICIPATION IN THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS DEPARTMENT OF THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND PAYING THE MEMBERSHIP FEE FOR THAT.
UH, I THINK Y'ALL ASKED ME LAST WEEK OR ONE OF YOU HAD, UH, EXACTLY.
WHAT IS THIS? AND, UH, THEY HAVE THE, A GROUP AT, AT COG COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, UH, THE EMERGING MANAGEMENT, UH, PREPAREDNESS DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNTY PARTICIPATING COUNTIES FUND THAT IT'S NOT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, LIKE, WELL, YOUR WORKFORCE, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, THAT THOSE PROGRAMS ARE PAID BY THE MONEY THAT THEY GET IN FROM THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR WORKFORCE PROGRAMS. SO EVERY PROGRAM THAT, THAT, UH, COG HAS IS FUNDED BY SOMEBODY IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
AND THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT IS FUNDED BY THE INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPATING COUNTIES.
AND, UH, THEY DO GOOD WORK FOR US.
AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN COORDINATE, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE JUDGE OF THIS, THIS PART HERE, RIGHT? THEY DO THE, UH, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT COORDINATE ALL OF THE, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, PROGRAMS FOR THE WHOLE REGION.
SO I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE DO IT.
NEXT IS, UH, DISCUSS CONSIDERING NEW MEMBERSHIP WITH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND PAYING THE ANNUAL DUE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
A A MOTION CARRIES AND THEY'RE STILL CARRYING US UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WHICH IS OKAY.
LOOK LIKE THEY'RE CARRYING US UNDER 75,000.
UH, I ONE JUST, OH, I, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.
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ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.CONSIDER MEMBERSHIP OF CONFERENCE SUBURBAN COUNTIES.
AND I RECOMMEND WE STAY A MEMBER OF THEM.
THEY PUT UP SOME GOOD, GOOD INFORMATION.
CARRIE, I GUESS WE'RE MOVING THE BUDGET HERE, MAKING A FEW ADJUSTMENTS.
WE HAVE ANY ADJUSTMENTS? YES SIR.
WE PROPOSED LINE ON THE TRANSFERS OF 22ND DISTRICT COURT INCREASED EXTRA REDUCTION OF THE SALARY OF ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR, WHICH IS AN UN TAX COLLECTOR TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE.
MISCELLANEOUS CONSTABLE PRECINCT.
FOUR, INCREASED PARTS OF REPAIRS, $1,000 OF THE REDUCTION IN GAS AND OIL AND THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND INCREASED NEW EQUIPMENT 5,000 WITH THE REDUCTION OF PRESERVATION COSTS.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A, UH, BUNCH OF AMENDMENT THAT INVOLVES NO COUNTY FUNDS.
JUST TO AGREE OUR RECORDS TO, UH, STATE BUDGET.
OKAY, GENTLEMEN, Y'ALL HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
I DON'T THINK THEY A DATE HERE.
WHAT? IT'S IN MARCH, DOWN ON SUNDAY.
YOU GOING IN MARCH? EVEN WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING LAST YEAR, YOU DIDN'T.
THEY WERE $25 BEFORE THE LAST GAME.
IS THE COTTON BOWL THERE?
YEAH, I WASN'T GOING TO COMMENT ABOUT THAT WITH THE SHERIFF BEING HERE.
YOU READY? READY FOR DID THEY EXPLAIN TO YOU? HOW DO I SAID I LAST WEEK, THAT WAS SOME OF THE MOST FUN I'VE EVER HAD.
WHAT WAS THAT? THAT'S THEM DOWN.
BUT THEN YOU GET THE INITIAL BLAST DOG WITH THE CUBBY.
THEN YOU HAVE TO GET OFF ON FEET AND RUN OR OFF ON TOILET AND THEN TRY TO CONTAIN WORK.
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WE GOT GOT OUR LIMIT ON THURSDAY, FRIDAY.WE, WE HAD USE ANY DOGS AT ALL? NO.
SOME PEOPLE TELL ME THAT YOU CAN GET A DOG OUT, WOULDN'T BE LIKE YOU'D KILL A DOG.
WELL, UH, ONE GUY JUST HAD HIS PET DOG SAID HE CAN'T EVEN WALK AROUND THE HOUSE STICKER IN.
HE SAID, CAN'T EVEN SEE THE STICKER.
AND HE SAID, WELL, YOU GOTTA HAVE RUBBER BOOTS ON ON YOUR DOGS.
AND LIKE YOU SAY, CUT UP TOO WEIGHT GOT CUT UP JUST ON THE WHEEL.
I WAS RIDING ON THE DOUBLE DECK.
THE, UH, HAD THIS, UH, MITSUBISHI, UH, KAWASAKI KAWASAKI RANGER TYPE DEAL AND HE HAD A SEAT UP ON THE BACK.
THAT'S WHERE I, SO I, I WASN'T GETTING THE STICKERS UNTIL I GOT DOWN AND STARTED RUNNING.
DID YOU BRING THOSE BACK OR, WE ABOUT TO HAVE SOME, UH, SOME, WE, WE, WE BROUGHT BARBECUE.
WE BROUGHT BACK ONLY ENOUGH TO BE PART OF THE FAMILY.
DID YOU EVER FIND OUT OR DECIDE ABOUT THOSE RECYCLING AND THOSE TELEVISIONS THAT MR. PERRY CALLED YOU? HE MENTIONED I CALLED MARILYN AND ASKED HER IF SHE COULD GET SOMETHING GOING ON THAT SHE'S WORK, TRYING TO GET SOMETHING GOING.
THEY TAKE THEM TO THAT CHARGE.
WELL, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE ASK US WHAT ARE WE, YOU KNOW, WHO'S, WHO'S GONNA TAKE THOSE? WHO'S GONNA TAKE TELEVISION? YOU KNOW, AND ALL PRECINCT DO IT.
IT'S GETTING, WE TAKE THEM IN MAY.
I MEAN THAT'S A LONG WON'T BE SEVERAL TELEVISIONS.
ARE THEY GONNA TAKE THEM DURING? LAST TIME THEY TOOK UPS, THEY HAD THAT GROUP THAT DOES THAT HAD UP PARKING AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS DURING COUNTY CLEAN UP OR, OR A DIFFERENT TIME.
BUT WE NEED TO GET SOME INFORMATION NOW.
CARRIE WAS TALKING, GET SOME INFORMATION BECAUSE WE ALREADY GETTING CALLS ABOUT IT.
WHAT DEAL? SO THERE COULD BE SUBJECT THAT'S YES.
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I SAY WAIT A MINUTE.I DUNNO WHAT, IS THERE ANY OF IT LEFT THAT HE WAS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME OFF? I TRYING TIMELINE.
WHERE THE JUDGE BEFORE COMPUTER.
I WAS JUST A DINOSAUR UNIFORM.
WE'RE GOING BE, WE'LL BE READY.
WE GOT TUESDAY TWO READY, GET READY FOR IT.
I LOOKED UP, FIND THE FLOOR PLANS.
SHOW ME THAT I AIR CONDITIONER ON IT.
EVERYBODY'S IF THEY'RE PASSED OUT,
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THAT'S WHY THE LAWSUIT, THIS GUY CAME OVER, HE STARTED WAVING THE I JUDY.I THOUGHT I BROUGHT NO, WELL I'M NOT UP HERE.
I'M ALWAYS KEEP MINE RIGHT HERE.
I THOUGHT I SAID I'LL BRING THEM.
I THOUGHT I HAD DROPPED THEM OR I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'LL DO.
I'LL TAKE THEM DOWN TO, UH, RAY'S OFFICE.
HAVE THEM SEND THEM OVER HERE.
HOW ABOUT THAT MUST BE HOW MANY NEED TO BRING TOTAL? HOW MANY OF Y NEED TO SEND? I THINK EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE.
I'LL SEND, I'LL THIS, I'LL PROBABLY SEND ABOUT A DOZEN OR SO WE, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WITH THE LITTLE, UH, TEMPERATURE GAUGE ON SORRY, YOU SHOULDA SEEN ON THE REPORTS.
DID, WOULD YOU PREFER SEND THOSE TO YOU DIRECTLY? SUPERINTENDENT AND THAT TAKES ANOTHER HOUR.
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THERE'S A, THAT'S ALL SET UP DURING BUDGET.YEAH, I THINK THIS YEAR WE GOT AN ADDITIONAL PERCENTAGE WASN'T EXACTLY THE SAME.
UM, QUARTER BIG ONE IS TUB WE HAVE AT IT.
AND I THINK, UH, I THINK GOT THAT ONE CAR.
HEY JERRY, YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW IT'S SOMEWHERE.
YEAH, I THINK KNOW THERE WAS ONE WE HAD THAT ONE WE NEVER USED IT AND THEN KENNETH WANTED TO USE IT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT HER OKAY THEN THIS THE ONE THAT KENNETH HAD.
EVERYBODY USED IT WAS REAL NERVOUS ABOUT USING IT, THROW STUFF OUT, EVERYTHING.
BUT IT'S IT'S EXPENSIVE, EXPENSIVE MACHINE AND IF YOU CAN GET IT RUNNING, YOU KNOW, BARELY ENOUGH TO GET IT AND SOLD.
I THINK ACTUALLY CHARLOTTE GILMORE GOT THE MACHINE.
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REALLY? YEAH, I DON'T, IT'S NOT OUR, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS IN OUR PLACE, BUT IT JUST SAT OUT THERE FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.EVERYBODY THAT USED IT WAS SO NERVOUS ABOUT IT WOULD THROW PIECES OF STUFF OUT.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY WAS WORRIED ABOUT BEING TOO DANGEROUS TO USE.
MAYBE BEFORE WE SELL THAT WE NEEDED PRECINCT.
YOU KNOW, YOU TO OUT SOMEWHERE TO IT.
BUT HE HAD TO HAVE A LOT OF SPACE TO DO IT.
YOU BETTER BE DOING IT WITH THAT.
I THOUGHT WE'D JUST TAKE IT DOWN AND PUT IT ON THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, GO DOWN THE ROAD, THROW STUFF IN IT.
JC DO YOU KNOW IF Y'ALL, DO Y'ALL HAVE IT OVER THERE? JACK, DID YOU ASK UH, HOW TALL THAT THAT ANTENNA NEEDS TO BE OFF? START OFF GETTING, HE TOLD ME 25 FEET.
CAN YOU DOUBLE CHECK WITH THAT? BECAUSE I CAN BUILD SOMETHING 25 FEET MAY BE A LITTLE BIT ON EXPERTISE 50, BUT I'LL TRY OUT THE ONE THAT WE'VE GOT, THE EXISTING ONE WE'VE GOT NOW PROBABLY ABOUT 12 FEET.
OH, IS THAT RIGHT? SO I'M THINKING SURELY NOT 50 FEET, 12 FEET.
WELL THE SHERIFF WANTS TO WORK ALL THE TIME.
AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THOUGH.
WHEN YOU SEE HIM OUT THERE, ASK HIM.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, WHEN THEY GET THAT IN THERE, IT'S GONNA BE THE SECOND THING WE NEED DO IS GET, UH, GET THE SHERIFF THERE.
BUT I'LL CONFIRM THAT I 50 BUT PLAN FUTURE.
I, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SEEN THOSE THINGS IN ANY OF THOSE AUCTIONS.
AND THEY GOTTA BIG, I MEAN PEOPLE JUNK 'EM ALL DOWN.
OH, THAT ONE FOR THE FULL COMMUNICATION THING.
WASN'T THAT REALLY TALL, REALLY BIG.
SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON ALL THAT STUFF.
THEY CALLED SOME IN ON THAT THING.
NOT I THINK GEORGE GONNA CHECK.
WOULD DSL DO THE SAME, THE SAME PURPOSE OUT THERE? WE DON'T Y'ALL, I GUESS Y'ALL USING THAT TRAILER RIGHT NOW.
I'M GONNA PULL IT OUT WHEN YOU GOT PULL IT OUT HERE.
YEAH, WE BE DISCING IT GETTING WAY, HOPEFULLY GETTING TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION OFFICER NOW YOU HE SAYS YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO.
HE SURE DIDN'T SAY SHALL WHAT HE TOLD SHALL NOT SHALL MAYBE WAS PRETTY SURE
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I SAW PRETTY CUR IN THE PAPER.YOU KNOW, ONLY THING HE QUOTE WAS THAT COMMISSIONER ROBIN SAYS, I DON'T SEE THE CONNECTION BENEVOLENCE OF BREAKING THE LAW.
WELL THAT'S A PRETTY BETTER STATEMENT.
THEY JUST TRYING TO GET ALONG WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
LOOK LIKE YOU'VE BEEN SITTING THERE A WHILE.
SO I TALKED LAST WEEK STILL PRETTY WEAK.
BAGS SAYS DRINK AND DRIVE IN BIG LETTERS.
YOU KNOW, COWBOY COFFEE, COWBOY COFFEE.
HE'S GONNA ME WHAT'D YOU HAVE TO GO TUESDAY MORNING? THIS TUESDAY? TWO OR THREE IN THE AFTERNOON.
WE'RE GONNA BE ALL DEVICE AGAIN.
I WAS, HE'S I KNOW IF I SHOULD MEANT THAT'S HIS WAY OF SAYING HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH FREE.
THAT SERVE PURPOSE WOULDN'T, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T THAT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
UNTIL YOU, THIS THIS ONE SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THAT'S A LOT OF MISCONDUCT.
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BASICALLY THE WAY THINGS USED TO BE DONE.MR DID THAT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T REALLY THINK FROM WEST TO THAT'S 2, 2, 2 AND THREE DIVIDED.
YEAH, 2034 BECAUSE FROM 30 BIG LINE 3 31 OR SOMETHING.
WELL WE GOT MOST OF THE RIGHT NOW THE
AND THEN IT'S FORECLOSURE FARMER'S HOME ADMINISTRATION AND UH, ONE FARMER FHA FOOT.
I KEEP TELLING JOHN JOHN NATION AND WE MONTH WE CAN THE, FROM THE LAST TIME HE, THEY SENT A CLOSING PAPER, SO SOME KIND OF BILL OVER.
IS IT BECAUSE I KNOW WE, IT'S THE WORST CASE SAHARA THAT, UH, FHA COULD SUE US AND THE MIGHT ON 30 FEET RIDE AWAY.
WILL YOU MEET THE FOLLOWING MONDAY? BE TWO WEEKS? YEAH, TWO WEEKS.
SO YOU WON'T ME ON, YOU WON'T MEET TUESDAY EITHER? NO, NO.
WE'RE NO NEED FOR IT TO MEET TUESDAY.
WE'LL JUST WAIT TILL, UH, OKAY.
WELL, I PROBABLY HAVE A LONG AGENDA ON THE 26TH.
WE HAVEN'T HAD LONG JUDGE, DID YOU GET MY LITTLE, UH, PIECE OF PAPER ABOUT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS? WHEN DID YOU SEND IT LAST WEEK? I CARRIED GIVE IT TO YOU AND I HIGHLIGHTED SOME ISSUES ON THERE.
I WOULD ASK YOU HOW MANY DOLLARS WE PAY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
WOULD THAT BE PRETTY EASY ANSWER.
UH, HOW MUCH DID IT GO UP FROM NEXT YEAR? 3%.
SOME IT STILL INDUSTRY STILL GOING UP BETWEEN 12 AND 12 AND 15%.
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SO WE'RE STILL ON THAT.GRA DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE THE FILE? IT HAS A PROPERTY NUMBER.
WE REALLY NEED TO FIND, I THINK IT'S UNDER PRECINCT THREE.
I, WELL IT MAY BE, BUT I GOT SOMEWHERE YOU CALL MARILYN MARILYN NATION.
'CAUSE I'M, I'M BETTING ON THIS PURCHASE WITH, UH, YOU THAT MONTH CO-OP'S MONEY.
HOWEVER THE CO-OP GETS THIS MONEY FROM US.
SO I THINK IT CAME FROM PRECINCT.
BEEN SITTING OVER, IT WAS OVER HERE AT THE YEAH.
IS THAT THE ONE THAT'LL CHOP CHOP UP RAILROAD TIES? YEAH.
DON'T CUT 'EM UP VERY SMALL THOUGH.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE MULCH.
I REMEMBER ONE TIME WE TOOK A TOUR OF THE, UH, NEW PRISON WHEN THEY OPENED THE NEW PRISON UP AT, UH, PALESTINE.
AND UH, THEY WENT IN THERE AND THEY HAD THESE, THESE MEAT GRINDERS WHERE THEY GROUND THEIR MEAT WAS ABOUT THIS BIG AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT YEAH, OCCASIONALLY THEY HAD SOME INMATES THAT WOULD TURN UP MISSING IT.
OKAY, LET'S PAY THE BILLS THIS WEEK.
MR. ROWDEN SAYS HE'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO, AND MR. JACKSON SAYS HE'LL SECOND IT.
A MOTION CARRIES AND WE'LL PAY THE BILLS.
REMEMBER NO MEETING NEXT MONDAY.
WELL, I GOT THIS CALENDAR THAT I HAVE FROM UH, THOUSAND FOUR.
I WAS LOOKING AT 2008 WHEN I SAID 26.
SO WHATEVER TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY IS, WE'LL BE BACK.
IS THIS A LEAK YEAR? OH, WAS NO.