* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] COMMISSIONER ROBIN, WILL YOU OPEN UP TODAY PLEASE? I'D BE GLAD TO JUDGE, PRAY. MS. CHRIS IS HELD ME. FATHER, WE THANK PEOPLE THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER AND TOGETHER TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY. UH, PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS. THANK THESE FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT THOU PROVIDED US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE THINK THESE, PARTICULARLY FOR A BEAUTIFUL MONDAY MORNING LIKE TODAY. GREAT DAY. AND, UH, WE'RE ALL APPRECIATIVE OF IT. UH, LOOK DOWN UPON OUR SOLDIERS WITH FAVOR AND BRING THEM, UH, AS HOME AND GET THEM OUT OF HARM'S WAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND DELIVER ABOVE IT FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, TEXAS. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, THE ONE STATE GOD GOT ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THEY'VE BEEN, UM, PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED. COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTION? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED. NO MA MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL IN FAIR TO SAY? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING. WELCOME EVERYBODY. NOW I'M GONNA RUN YOU OUT. UH, WE HAVE, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.0711 A OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, REFERENCE CONSULTATIONS WITH ATTORNEYS, UH, REFERENCE PENDING OR CONTEMPLATING LITIGATION AND CAUSE NUMBER ZERO FIVE DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 1 1 5 2. UH, THIS IS CONCERNS THE APPEAL, JOIN CONES VERSUS KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND OTHERS. UH, I DIDN'T ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE FROM THE OPEN SESSION TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. COMMISSIONER ROBIN WILL MAKE IT. COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. SO WE'LL, UH, MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. JOHN, YOU STAY. OKAY. AND, UH, DONE. COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECONDED IT AND ALL VOTE IN FAVOR TO EXIT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COME BACK INTO OPEN COURT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ANY ACTION TO BE TAKEN AS RESULT OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE ONE. UH, I WOULD SAY JUST, UH, CONTINU WITH THE APPEAL MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER ROWDEN, UH, TO ADVISE OUR ATTORNEY TO CONTINUE WITH THE APPEAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DELLER, ALL ATTORNEY. AYE. A MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS MS. KA, MS. KATHY MARSTON SITTER, CONTINUING THE CONNECT COUNTY EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM AND RENEWING THE CONTRACT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. KATHY, CAN YOU MAKE THIS FAST? I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR NEARLY TWO HOURS FOR THIS . WE WEREN'T GONNA TAKE OUR TIME. HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE IT FAST. YEAH, WE WEREN'T PAYING YOU $200 AN HOUR TO WAIT. YEAH. BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THAT , UM, WHAT WE'VE GOT THE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT WE GOT LAST YEAR. UH, CONTRACT EXPIRES THIS YEAR, MARCH 31ST. WE'VE GOT IT THROUGH CONNECT CTY AND IT HAS THE OPTION OF DEPARTMENT HEADS BEING ALLOWED TO USE IT TO NOTIFY CITIZENS IN THEIR PRECINCT OR THEIR EMPLOYEES, UM, FOR WORK DOWN TREES, WHATEVER YOU NEED TO USE IT FOR, NOT ONLY JUST EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS TO THE, THE ENTIRE PUBLIC, IT'S FOR THAT KIND OF USE TOO. [00:05:01] UM, WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE GRANT, WE PAID FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION OUT OF GRANT FUNDS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY, INCLUDING THE CITIES OF FORNEY, TERRELL, AND KAUFMAN. THEY ENTERED INTO SEPARATE CONTRACTS WITH CONNECT CTY TO DO THE NON-EMERGENCY STUFF ON THEIR OWN. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MARCH 31ST, THE COUNTY'S PART OF THAT WAS GOING TO END. THEY WOULD'VE TO PICK UP THEIR OWN EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION IF THAT'S WHAT THEY COLLECTED TO DO. THEREFORE, IT DROPS DOWN OUR COST OF RE RENEWING THE CONTRACT TOO. UM, THE COST OF RENEW THE CONTRACT IS $41,555 AND 25 CENTS. NOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THE SYSTEM. IT'S BEEN ACTIVATED. IT IS BEEN ABLE TO BE USED FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION ALL THIS TIME, BUT WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH GETTING EMPLOYEE PHONE NUMBERS AND THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE USED FOR THE USER GROUPS THAT WE COULD NOT DO DURING THIS TIME. AND SOME TRAINING ISSUES THAT WERE NOT DONE DONE, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN SINCE THEN BEEN COMPLETED. AS FAR AS THE TRAINING GOES, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE ISSUE WITH THE PHONE NUMBERS. UM, WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS THE, THE SALES PERSON THAT IS DEALING WITH US SAID IT IS MAYBE POSSIBLE TO GET AN EXTENSION ON THE EXISTING CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE EXTENSION'S GONNA BE. THREE TO FOUR MONTHS IS WHAT HE SAID. IF, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC LAUNCH OF THE SYSTEM, WHICH WE HAVEN'T DONE YET, THAT LAUNCH MEANS THAT THEY'LL PUT A LINK ON OUR WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE TO ADD MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THEY WANT, PHONE NUMBERS, EMAIL NOTIFICATION, WHATEVER THEY WANT. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT PART OF IT YET. SO WHAT WE WANNA DO TODAY IS GET Y'ALL'S FEELINGS ON IT. DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH CONNECT? I UNDERSTAND IT WASN'T BUDGETED FOR RENEWAL EITHER. SO THOSE ISSUES NEED TO BE STRAIGHTENED OUT. IF WE WANNA KEEP THIS SERVICE WITH THIS COMPANY, WE HAVE TO HAVE OFFICIALLY LAUNCH THE SYSTEM AND GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR APPROVAL TO RENEW THE CONTRACT. OTHERWISE, I REALLY CAN'T SEE RENEWING THE CONTRACT IF WE'RE NOT GONNA RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH THEM. I CAN'T SEE DOING ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY. IS THAT 41,000, IS THAT FOR A YEAR? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION AND FOR NON-EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION PURPOSES. AND IT'S UNLIMITED MINUTES. A LOT OF COMPANIES WILL CHARGE YOU BY THE MINUTE. SO YOU'LL GET TO WHERE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR YOU, YOU'RE SITTING THERE WITH A CALCULATOR, CAN WE AFFORD TO DO THIS? CAN WE AFFORD TO NOTIFY PEOPLE OF THIS EMERGENCY OR NOT? HAVE WE USED IT YET? HAVE WE USED IT? THIS WE, NO, THE COUNTY HAS NOT. THE CITY'S USED IT CONTINUOUSLY. THEY USE IT ALL THE TIME. OKAY. IS THIS THE SAME THING THAT'S TIED INTO THE SHERIFF'S UNIT OR IS THIS A WHOLE COMPLETELY SEPARATE? UM, THEY'VE GOT IT. IT IS THE ONE THAT IT WAS SET UP FOR THEM TO BEGIN WITH. WHAT THEY'VE GOT NOW WITH THEIR NEW SOFTWARE. AND I'VE ALREADY, I'VE CHECKED ON IT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THEY'VE GOT NEW SOFTWARE. I CHECKED WITH THAT COMPANY AND THAT COMPANY GAVE ME A QUOTE THAT'S $20,000 MORE THAN WHAT THIS IS. SO, UH, OKAY. , THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. UM, ALSO WITH THIS, WITH THIS ONE, I KNOW COMMISSIONER DYLAN HAD ASKED ME LAST WEEK ABOUT THE PURCHASE OPTIONS. JACK AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING AND THIS, THESE FOLKS WITH HJC. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE BIG PROCESS. OKAY. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I REALLY, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND, IS THIS, THIS MONEY CAME FROM A GRANT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, RIGHT? UH, WHAT IS RAMIFICATIONS OF THE GRANT PROCESS? OR DOES THE GRANT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IF WE DON'T CONTINUE NO. GIVE US A SLIP ON? NO. SO THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT A, NOPE. GRAND MONEY WAS FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN THE FIRST YEAR, AND THAT WAS IT. TAKE UP THE COST THEREAFTER. BUT THE CITIES, UH, THEY CAME UNDER THAT ALSO. AND THEY HAVE BEEN UTILIZING IT. THEY HAVE BEEN THE, I THINK THEY IS WHAT THEY, I UNDERSTAND FROM TALKING TO THE CITIES, THEY USE IT MORE FOR NON-EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS. LIKE CITY OF KAUFMAN'S USED IT THREE TIMES IN THE LAST TWO, THREE WEEKS BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK THEY'RE DOING ON THE ROADS. THEY JUST CALL PEOPLE OUT THAT THE WATER'S GONNA BE TURNED OFF. THEY'RE, THE CITIES ARE REALLY ABLE TO USE IT FOR THAT KIND OF PURPOSE. MORE THAN EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION PURPOSE. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE TELEPHONE NUMBER PROBLEM? THE SOLUTION TO THAT IS, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS GO TO EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD AND HAVE THE EMPLOYEES SAY, YES, I AGREE TO HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER PUT INTO THE SYSTEM. IF YOU'VE GOT A PUBLIC PHONE NUMBER NOW AND LIVE IN THE COUNTY, IT'S ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT PRIVATE PHONE NUMBER, IT'S NOT, IF YOU WANT YOUR CELL PHONE OR YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED, THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE RELEASED BY THAT. WELL, YOU MEAN UNLISTED NUMBERS OR MM-HMM . YEAH, BUT IF IT'S A PUBLIC, IF IT'S A PUBLIC PHONE, OH, OKAY. RECORD NOW. IT'S ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM. YOU [00:10:01] SEE IN THE PHONE BOOK. IN THE PHONE BOOK. IT'S THERE. OH, HUH. YEP. I DON'T, YEAH, I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE A PRIVATE NUMBER TO NOTIFY EMPLOYEES. UH, SO WE GET TWO INCHES OF ICE ON THE ROAD IN THE MORNING, UH, WITH THIS SYSTEM. WILL IT SEPARATE EMPLOYEES OUT? YEAH. THAT'S CALLED THE USER. EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY? NO, THAT'S CALLED A USER GROUP. WE CAN CREATE THOSE SPECIFIC GROUPS FOR THOSE PURPOSES. WE CAN, WE CREATE, WE CAN CREATE A GROUP FOR YOU THAT WILL INCLUDE ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY SAYING THAT YOU CAN CALL OUT AND YOU CAN HAVE THEM CALL ON THE INTERNET, WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT TO DO, AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE A DELAYED OPENING FOR TWO HOURS. AND THAT WOULD BE ALL THE, ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY AND THE COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY WANT TO JUST PUT THEIR PEOPLE IN FOR SPECIFIC REASONS. SAY WE HAVE BAD STORM COME THROUGH AND YOU NEED TO CALL THE CREW OUT. THEY CAN EITHER GET ON THE INTERNET OR PICK UP THE PHONE AND WITH ONE PHONE CALL, NOTIFY ALL THE CREWS. I, YOU KNOW, COME TO THE BARN. YOU NEED TO GO TO WORK. IF YOU'VE GOT A ROAD THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, YOU CAN CREATE A POLYGON AND NOTIFY JUST EVERYBODY ON THAT ROAD WITH A PHONE CALL OR OVER THE INTERNET. YOU CAN DO THAT YOURSELF. NOW, ON THE INCLEMENT WEATHER WITH THE ICE, I CALL THREE TV STATIONS RIGHT NOW. IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING. MM-HMM . AND IT COMES ON THE TV USUALLY ABOUT 15 MINUTES AFTER I CALL. UH, AND THAT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING. RIGHT. SO JUST WANTED TO WANT THAT OUT. WHETHER, WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THIS 41,000. YEAH. THE ONLY OTHER PART IS THE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION TO THE, TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY. WE'VE GOT A TORNADO COMING THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. DISPATCH CAN NOTIFY US PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. IF WE'VE GOT A CHEMICAL SPILL THAT WE NEED THE PEOPLE TO SHELTER IN THEIR HOMES, THEY CAN PICK UP THE PHONE OR GET ON THE INTERNET AND CREATE A, GENERATE A CALL THAT WILL DO JUST AN AREA THAT THEY'RE DEFINED THAT THEY NEED THOSE PEOPLE TO SHELTER IN THEIR HOMES. IT'S, IT'S A GOOD TOOL FOR IF THEY, IF THEY'VE GOT A LOST CHILD THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, THEY CAN TYPICAL PHONE CALLS WITH JUST PEOPLE IN THAT AREA. IF THEY'VE GOT AN ELDERLY PERSON THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING. IT'S GOT A LOT OF, A LOT OF ADDITIONAL USES OTHER THAN BAD WEATHER NOTIFICATION. BUT DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, UM, YOU KNOW, FAKE WRITTEN? YES. YEAH. THIS SYSTEM IS IN EFFECT. WE CAN USE IT TODAY IF WE NEED BE. NO, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING, UH, IF WE'RE NOT USING YOUR SYSTEM, DO WE HAVE, DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANYTHING DOOR TO DOOR NOTIFICATION? WHAT, WHAT I'VE DONE IS I HAVE A PYRAMID WITH THE SHERIFF, WITH THE DISPATCH AND SHERIFF'S THEY CALL ME OR TWO OTHER PEOPLE, ONE OF TWO, WHOEVER THEY GET FIRST. MM-HMM . UH, AND THEN I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO NOTIFY THEM. AND I DUNNO IF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WANT DO THAT OR THE JUDGE WANTS TO CONTINUE WITH THE, THE THREE OF YOU TELEVISION STATIONS. WE CAN, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE WAY IT WORKS IS WE CAN CUT THIS DOWN THE CHARGE ON THIS EVEN MORE. IF WE DO THE DO AWAY WITH THE NON-EMERGENCY, THEN TOTAL PACKAGE PER HOUSEHOLD IS $2 AND 25 CENTS TO DO EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS. I BELIEVE THAT THEY SPLIT IT UP. IF YOU JUST WANT TO KEEP IT FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS. IT'S A DOLLAR SOMETHING, I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT WAS. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I, WE DID THAT LAST YEAR. IS THAT ABOUT HALF OF THIS? I THINK SO THIS, THIS EMAIL THAT, THAT YOU SENT ME, IS THAT 51 8 32? YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHEN INCLUDING THE CITY FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS. AND I TOLD HIM, UH, TAKE THAT OUT. SO THE VERY TOP OF THE EMAIL SHOULD HAVE, THE PRICE IS 41 5 5 25 PER YEAR. BUT WE CAN, I CAN ASK HIM ABOUT JUST DOING EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS FOR THE CITIZENS IN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTIES. AND WE'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE THE CITY, THE COMBINE FOR, UH, MAYBANK AND KIM TOO SINCE THEY HAVE US LEAVE THAT, IF YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE EMERGENCY PURPOSE ON IT. I JUST, UH, MY RIGHT NOW I'M JUST ASKING FOR GUIDANCE. WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO WITH THIS? THE, UH, RIGHT NOW I STARTED PULLING EVERYBODY'S MIND. COME, UH, LITTLE SUMMER, IT'S GONNA BE TORNADOES AND HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL ME OVER THE LAST TWO SUMMERS AND ONE ANOTHER ABOUT PUTTING, UH, TORNADO SIREN OUT. THOSE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE. YOU CAN ONLY HEAR 'EM FOR A CERTAIN DISTANCE AND YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY OPERATE AND SOMEBODY HAS TO GO HERE. YOU BE, YOU HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE TO HERE BASICALLY. SO, UH, I WAS TICKLED DEATH WHEN THIS CAME IN. SO THAT SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IF IS A TORNADO COMING ACROSS FROM [00:15:01] VILLE FOUR 20, SOMETHING LIKE THAT JURY, THEY CAN CALL BAGS BUDDY, YOU KNOW, DUCK AND A LOT, A LOT LESS MONEY THAN PUTTING UP A TORNADO SIREN ONLY COVERS A FIVE, YOU KNOW, MILE AREA. WE CAN'T COVER THE WHOLE COUNTY THAT WAY. WHAT, IS THERE A LIST OF WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY AND, AND NON-EMERGENCY? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE DON'T CONSIDER AN EMERGENCY. THE COMPUTER COMPANY MIGHT NOT CONSIDER TO BE EMERGENCY. YEAH. I I I CERTAINLY KNOW THAT THINGS LIKE CHEMICAL SPILLS OR LOST CHILDREN OR MISSING ADULTS OR ESCAPE PRISONERS OR YOU SO THE ICE, YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE EMERGENCY, BAD WEATHER, THINGS LIKE THAT. I'D BEEN READY TO LOOK AT THE COST ON THE DIFFERENCE ON IT BECAUSE HALF MOVE OUT, NOT NEED. THINK BOTH THE EMERGENCIES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE JURY AND I SENT OUT LETTERS TO PEOPLE UP DOWN THE ROAD THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF STAMPING PLUS DOING THAT TYPE WORK TIME. WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE ROAD. THAT WOULD BE A PLUS. BUT IS IT WORTH 20,000 PLUS? YEAH. YEAH. WELL, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THIS COMPANY? I LIKE 'EM. I LIKE THE SYSTEM. IT'S USER FRIENDLY. IT'S VERY, VERY EASY. VERY SIMPLE. AND I THINK IF WE GO THROUGH AND JUST DO THE EMERGENCIES, I CAN FIND OUT HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST. I'M GUESSING IT PROBABLY CUT THIS PRICE IN HALF JUST FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION. OKAY. WE JUST, I CAN CALL, I CAN SEND OUT THE LETTERS AND CALL MY PEOPLE AND DO WHATEVER. CALL EVERYBODY. IT'S ONLY 5,000 PIECES FROM Y'ALL. YEAH. SO WHAT ABOUT YOUR PART ? HAVE ANY YEAH, I WAS JUST KIND OF YOU WANTING TO KNOW YOUR, YOUR IDEAS AND THOUGHTS. IF YOU, MY, MY BASIC CONCERN NOW IS IF YOU WANNA KEEP IT AND YOU WANNA STAY WITH THIS COUNTY, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF US GETTING AN EXTENSION ON OUR CURRENT CONTRACT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT USED IT, BUT ONLY FOR THREE MONTHS OR SOMETHING. YEAH. I DUNNO. IT'S, THAT WOULD BE, WELL HOW ABOUT I, HOW ABOUT TRYING IT OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS, THIS YEAR WITH UH, NON-EMERGENCY, UH, I MEAN WITH THE, UH, EMERGENCY MEETING TO LEAVE THE NON-EMERGENCY OFF AND SEE HOW THAT GOES. WE'LL DO THAT AND IF THAT, IF THEY'LL EXTEND THE CONTRACT, THEN WE CAN REVISIT IT FROM THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS. JUST A LITTLE FRAMING. BUT EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD STILL NEEDS TO GET PHONE NUMBERS AND TURN 'EM INTO TO WHO? YOU WANT ME TO DO IT OR Y'ALL WANT TO, UH, WE'VE GOT THE LIST OF OFFICE. SO YOU PHONE NUMBERS. THEY WERE ABLE TO GET A LIST OF THE, THE ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND THE DEPARTMENTS THEY WERE WITH. AND WHEN IT CAME TO THE PHONE NUMBERS, THAT'S WHERE IT HAD TO STOP. LEMME GIVE YOU A HYPOTHETICAL ONE ERNIE TREE DOWN ON, UH, 40 26. WOULD THAT TRIGGER THIS, UH, TO THEM TO CALL ME, UH, TO GET A CREW OUT THERE TO, TO TAKE THE, UH, TO REMOVE THE TREE? IS THAT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY FALL UNDER AN EMERGENCY. UH, I'M TREE NOW. REALLY? WELL, IF WE DO LIKE LAST YEAR AND WE GET A LOT OF RAIN AND YOUR WALK, YOUR BRIDGES AND STUFF, START WASHING OUT, THAT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY FOR NOTIFY THE CITIZENS. YEAH. SEE, NORMALLY I THINK EITHER ONE OF THE DEPUTIES DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, UH, CALLING IN AND THAT'S HOW I GET AND THEY CALL ME UP 'CAUSE I'M ON THE LIST, YOU KNOW? YEAH. WE NEED TO GET FROM A DEPUTY OR A CITIZEN TO SEE . YEAH. SO THEY WOULD PROBABLY RELATIVE THREE GOT ACROSS TO LIVE EMERGENCY. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, 1 48 OR 4 29, 1 7 5, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU GOT HAVE TRAFFIC ALL SUDDEN, A DIFFERENT SCENARIO. OKAY. YEAH. IF WE CONTINUE FOR THE, NOT THE EMERGENCY, SO EMERGENCY NOTICE TO CONTINUE THAT. WELL, DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND, AND VOTE TO DO IT JUST DONE AND BURN HILL OR WE WANNA FIND OUT SURE. WHAT IT'S GONNA COST. COST. I CAN, I CAN FIND OUT. I'LL SEND Y'ALL AN EMAIL, CALL YOU BECAUSE I ADDRESS OKAY. UH, BY THIS AFTERNOON I SHOULD BE ABLE ONE WITH THE GUY, BUT WE'RE GOING MOVE ON IT. THEY'LL NEED TO BE BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK IS MY POINT. SO, I MEAN, WE VOTE ON TODAY OR WE WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK TO VOTE ON IT. YEAH, LET'S GET THE, I GUESS WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT RIGHT. YEAH, I, I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO, UH, TABLE THAT UNTIL NEXT WEEK MAY BY COMMISSIONER [00:20:01] COVER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN. THANK YOU. GATHERING. THANK YOU. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. UH, SO YOU'RE GOING TO EMAIL EVERYBODY THOSE, UH, COST FIGURES AND, AND GO AHEAD AND PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK. UH, NEXT WE WANNA DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WE WANT TO GIVE JACKSON THE COUNTY PRESERVATION, UH, THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE ORDERS, APPROVE CHANGE ORDERS PER SECTION 2 62 0.031 B OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. JACK, GOOD MORNING. UH, FROM TIME TO TIME THERE'S A NEED FOR CHANGE ORDERS. UH, EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UH, UH, RAY BROUGHT UP LAST WEEK ON, ON A CONTRACT WE HAVE FOR RAW MATERIAL. UH, THAT VENDOR HAS A CLOSER LOCATION, UH, TO US THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE ORDER, UH, ON THAT. UH, IF I HAD THE AUTHORITY THAT WOULD KEEP HAVING PUT ON THE AGENDA EACH TIME SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAME UP. UH, I CAN DO THAT MYSELF. DID WE GIVE YOU SOME AUTHORITY LIKE THIS LAST YEAR? SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. DID I? I'M SURE IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T ON CHANGE ORDER. OKAY. ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT THIS MIGHT BE, UH, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE HAVE, UH, EIGHT POLICE CARS THAT ARE WORKING FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WE EITHER BID IT OUT OR IT'S ON BY BOARD. CARS COME IN, THERE'S BEEN A PO ISSUE AND, UH, DECIDE, HEY, WHILE THE CARS ARE THERE, WE'D LIKE TO PUT THE CAGES ON THEM THAT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGE PURCHASE ORDER. AND IT'S A PRETTY COMMON THING. BUT I DISCUSSION LONG 50,000 OR LESS. RIGHT? WELL, OBVIOUSLY I WOULD NEVER MAKE A CHANGE ORDER ABOUT CALLING THE END USER OKAY. GONNA AFFECT THEIR BUDGET AND THEY'D BE THE ONE TO TELL ME WHAT I WANNA DO. NOT OKAY. THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S, THAT'S WHAT CONFUSED YOU WHEN I SAW THIS BECAUSE THIS ALREADY GIVES YOU THE AUTHORITY TO DO THE CHANGE ORDER WITH WITHIN LIMITS. YOU KNOW, THE STATUTE GIVES YOU, ALREADY GIVES YOU AUTHORITY, DOESN'T IT? BUT NOT UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER GIVE YOU THAT AUTHORITY. WELL, IT SAYS IF THE CHANGE ORDER INVOLVES AN INCREASE OR DECREASE IN COST OF 50,000 OR LESS, THEN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS TO GRANT GENERAL AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER. BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. I, UH, AS LONG AS YOU'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO THE EFFECTIVE PARTY, INFORM THEM OF THE CHANGE ORDER, I'M SURE THEY'LL PROBABLY BE THE ONE TO ASK YOU MORE. EXACTLY. AND SECTION BAY SAYS THE CHANGE ORDER INVOLVES AN INCREASE OR DECREASE COST EACH THOUSAND OR LESS. THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAY RENT YOUR AUTHORITY. YES. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. . OTHERWISE, LIKE I SAID, IT, IT'S JUST A TIMEFRAME THING. IT COULD BE A DEAL EXAMPLE OF THOSE CARS AGAIN. UH, IF IT FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF WEEK, IT MAY BE 10 DAYS OR PUT ON THE AGENDA OR, OR A MEETING THAT MONDAY. IT COULD BE IN NEXT TWO WEEKS. THERE AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, LIKE COMMISSIONER ER SAID, IT'S GONNA BE THE DEPARTMENT COMING TO ME IN MOST CASES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU, JUDGE. OKAY, JACK. THANK YOU. YOU INVOLVED IN THIS NEXT ONE TOO? YES, SIR. I'M NOW WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, CONSIDER RENEWING RATE INTERFACE AGREEMENT WITH M EMBARK FOR THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. YES. SO THIS IS FOR THE PRI FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE COURTHOUSE. UH, THE NEW RATE IS 1438 PER MONTH. THIS IS 60 MONTH AGREEMENT. THIS IS ACTUALLY ABOUT $500, UH, A MONTH. UH, LESS OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENT. THAT'S ABOUT TO EXPIRE. PRETTY CHEAP FOR AN ISDN OF THIS SIZE. YES, SIR. I'D THAT RECOMMENDATION TO DO THAT. UH, MOTION MADE BY THANK BACK TO COMMISSIONER JACKSON. UM, THIS JUST DEALS WITH THE PHONES, SAYS INTERNET, PHONE, INTERNET, PHONES, PHONES. ONLY PHONE. DON'T THEY USE THE I-S-D-N-P-R-I GIVE YOU I-D-N-P-I IS THE T FOR THE PI SEPARATE FOR THE FOR ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. UH, NEXT ONE WE'LL IS CONSIDER POINTING. TERRY P. THOMAS TAYLOR GOLDEN, LARRY ANDERSON, JOHN LO, AND HARRY P UH, WILT AS COMMISSIONED TO NUMBER TWO. NUMBER TWO THAT, [00:25:02] UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE FIVE NAMES HERE. THE, THE TWO YEAR, TWO YEAR TERM 1 1 0 9 TO TWELVE THIRTY ONE TEN TWO YEAR TERM. TERRY THOMAS AND TAYLOR GOLDEN. THE TWO YEAR TERM, UH, THE OTHER LARRY ANDERSON ALSO GETS A 1 1 0 9 TO 12 31 10. THAT'S THE THREE, TWO YEAR APPOINTEES. JOHN LOWER AND HARRY WILT GETS THE ONE YEAR APPOINTEE FROM 1 1 0 9 TO 12 31 0 9. GET THAT LAUREN. NO, I WAS TOTALLY LOST. TOTALLY LOST. NOW THEN I'LL, YEAH, I JUST DUNNO HOW I'M WORD IT. DO YOU HAVE FIRST AND SECOND MOTION? NO, JUST, JUST PUT THE TWO YEAR TERM. OKAY. UH, THE FIRST THREE, UH, TWO YEAR TERM. THE FIRST THREE PEOPLE THERE AND THE SECOND TWO ARE ONE YEAR TERM. DO YOU WANT THE DATES LISTED? BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST? I BEGINNING, I'LL BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST. THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TWO NINE. YEAH. A MOTION WILL BE MADE BY COMMISSIONER LEY AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN A MOTION CARRIES. UH, NOW WE WANT TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE FINANCIAL COURT FOR CO COUNTY EMERGENCY DISTRICT NUMBER TWO. I HAVE IT. AND IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE MADE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THE COURT? YES. DO UH, YES, WE DO. ARE WE GONNA JUST CONSIDER ACCEPTING IT? YEAH. ACCEPT THAT REPORT. DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPT. I MAKE THE MOTION. ACCEPT FINANCIAL REPORT. TOMAN COUNTY. ESD NUMBER TWO. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION THUS CARRIED. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. UH, BE DISCUSSING, CONSIDER POINTING HARRY GERARD, I GUESS. CHUCK. K JOHN DABS. MARKS KOCO. CHARCO. CHARCO CHARCO. CHARCO SECCO. THAT IS, THAT'S, YEAH. SUCH, SUCH FAULT. AND TODD RE AS COMMISSIONS TO THE DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH HARRY GERARD. TOOK K MARK CHICAGO FOR TWO YEAR APPOINTMENTS. JOHN BABBS AND TODD RE ONE HERE. ONE. GET THAT ORDER. OKAY. MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL FAIR SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES. YOU HAVE NOT GUARANTEE TO REVIEW THEIR FINANCIAL, I ACCEPT THEIR FINANCIAL REPORT. I'D LIKE TO COMMEND THESE TWOS FOR DOING THAT. IF NOBODY ELSE, YOU MAY, YOU MAY NOT GET A SECOND ONE. COMMISSIONER, CLERK. MAY, MAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER LER SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. MOTION CARRIED THIS PERSON. NOT NOW LET'S DISCUSS AND CONSIDER LITTLE RODEO. [00:30:01] RODEO. YES. TEXDOT HAS WHAT THEY CALL A DALE. IT'S A COMPETITION BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE COMMISSIONERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE IT REALLY DEMONSTRATES A COMMITMENT TO SAFETY AND THEIR, THEIR A BIT DRIVING ABILITIES, THEIR SKILLS. AND IT'S ALSO A GOOD MORALE ISSUE TO GET TOGETHER AND, UH, UH, LITTLE COMPETITION BETWEEN THE PRECINCT. UH, AT THIS, AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE A, A DATE. UH, I'VE, I'VE ASKED THE SHERIFF IF HE WOULD SUPPLY SOME HELP FOR TIMERS AND, AND JUDGES AND HE SAID HE WOULD IF HE WAS THAT CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER. IS THAT WHAT IT IS? YEAH. IF, IF I WOULD LET THE CHILD ADVOCACY CENTER HAVE A CONCESSION STAND, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA. SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS UP. BEING THAT CAN'T TALK TO ONLY ONE OTHER WITHOUT IT, UH, WHAT, WHAT YOU'LL HAVE IS TRUCK DRIVING TECHNICAL ABILITY, BACKING UP TO A POINT AND MEASURING HOW CLOSE YOU CAN COME TO THAT WITHOUT HITTING IT. UH, DRIVING ON LINES AND CURVES. WE'LL HAVE A BACKHOE, UH, WHERE YOUR OPERATOR WILL BE REQUIRED TO DIG A TWO FOOT DEEP TRENCH. UH, AND IT WILL BE MEASURED ANYTHING LESS THAN TWO INCH OR MORE THAN TWO INCH WILL BE A POINT DEDUCTED. THERE'LL BE A SCORING SYSTEM. I'LL GET IT TO YOU IF YOU, IF YOU LIKE IT. UH, THE LAST THING WILL BE MOTOR GRADE OPERATORS. WE WILL TAKE A SOCCER BALL AND WE WILL HAVE A HUNDRED YARD, UH, ROUTE AND AT THE END WILL BE A 55 GALLON ROUTE. THE MOTIVATOR OPERATOR WILL TAKE THAT 55, UH, THAT SOCCER BALL AND MOVE IT DOWN AROUND THE PYLON AND COME BACK TO THE STARTING BEHIND THE COURSE . UH, AND THAT THERE, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS. THERE'LL BE A, UH, THERE'S A MOTOR GRADE DEMONSTRATION. UM, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT WILL BE. AND I, I THINK IF WE HAVE IT AT THE FAIR GROUNDS AND, AND EVERYBODY CAN COME AND PARTICIPATE AND, UH, I THINK THERE'LL BE A GOOD AND WILL THERE BE A CONTEST IN THERE FOR SOMEONE TO JUMP OUT WITH BAIL WIRE AND PUT THEIRS BACK TOGETHER? OH, OH, ONE MORE THING. I, THERE'S GONNA BE A TRUCK RACE. A TRUCK RACE, AND YOU KNOW WHO'S GONNA DRIVE IT? THE COMMISSIONERS. THE COMMISSIONERS. NOW MY PICK UPS FASTER. TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT A TANDEM DUMP TRUCK AND THE ONLY DISADVANTAGE IS I'M PROBABLY ONE WITH THE CDL . BUT YOU WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CDL DRIVER IN THE TRUCK WITH YOU. AND IT'S NOT A SPEED RACE, IT'S A SLOW RACE. YEAH. FOR A HUNDRED YARDS. THE LAST TRUCK THAT GETS ACROSS THE LINE IS THE WINNER . OKAY. IT IS A SLOW RACE. SO I THINK I LOOKED MY IDEA BETTER. JIM, JIM SAID HE BUT HE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMISSION. DO I SAID LET'S SEE IF THEY CAN'T GET BALANCE A CHECKBOOK . I DO. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I, THAT'S, THAT'S INTERESTING TO ME. OKAY. IF EVERYBODY, ARE THEY IN THE AWARDS? ANYTHING? YEAH, I'M, I'M, BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST ONE, I WILL PERSONALLY BUY SOME RIBBONS AND I WANT TO HAVE ONE TROPHY. IT WILL BE A BIG TROPHY AND IF THIS THING IS SUCCESSFUL, IT WILL GO, UH, THE FIRST YEAR. PRECINCT FOUR WILL GET IT. ? YEAH. I'D SAY THE JUDGE ALREADY BEEN AND, UH, IF WHOEVER GETS IT THE FIRST YEAR WILL PUT A LITTLE PLAQUE ON IT THE YEAR AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, WE'LL, PRECINCT TWO WINS IT, THEY'LL GET IT AND THEN THREE THEY'LL GET IT. I LIKE IT TO BE AN ANNUAL THING. JUST A CAMARADERIE AND DEMONSTRATE YOUR SKILLS AND IT'LL JUST BE LIKE A LOMBARDI TROPHY. YEAH. WENT TO THE WRONG PEOPLE. OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER ER WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. I MAKE THE MOTION. SECOND. COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL SECOND IT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON IT? ALL IN 30? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. OKAY, NEXT, WE'LL DISCUSSION. CONSIDER APPROVE THE RE PLA OF ELMO ACRES AND TON COUNTY PRECINCT THREE. YES, SIR. JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO, UH, TABLE THAT I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH THE RESEARCH AND RESEARCH. OKAY. SECOND. MOTION TO TABLE THAT MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. IS THIS AT, UH, WHERE IS THIS LOCATED? HERE. I'LL LOOK AT THOSE IN MINUTE. OKAY. UH, DISCUSSION. [00:35:01] CONSIDER APPROVE THE DE OF AUTHOR DE CARD. DEUS. S CHRIS S. SHERIFF, WHERE ARE YOU FINDING THESE PEOPLE? I SAY, UH, CHRIS, MS ERIC L. WILLIAMS. MARYANNE BRIGGS. DOUGLAS W. ADAMS. DARL B RUM. AND ROBERT S MCKISSICK FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN THURSDAY. AYE. AYE. MOTION? CARRIE, ANY LINE ITEM? YES SIR. VERY FEW, I HOPE. YES, SIR. OPPOSED? LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND ELECTION EXPENSE FOR BALLOTS AND SUPPLIES. THOUSAND DOLLARS KNOWLEDGE BILLS 200 CONTRACT LABOR TAX BONDS. 2,800. MISCELLANEOUS 500 SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE FROM PRECINCT RECELL. WE COULD KEEP IT IN TO KEEP OF IT IN THE ADULT PROBATION. WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENT STATE. Y'ALL HEARD THE TRANSFER REQUEST? ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL IN FAIR SAY A MOTION CARRIES. UH, CAN YOU GET THROUGH YOUR DEALS PRETTY QUICK? FIVE MINUTES? YES, I KNEW ABOUT IT. THIS CAMERA'S ON RECORDING SECURITY. CAMERA'S ON. I ASSUME SO. I THINK WE HAVE, UH, BASEBALL COACHES OR FOOTBALL COACHES. OH YEAH. SIX 300 BUCKS. THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE. REMEMBER, I ONLY HAVE ONE OUTTA THIS. APPRECIATE SHE SPOKE. [00:40:28] OH, WE, IT'S, UH, DETECTIVE NORTHEAST TEXAS COUNTY. I MEAN, NOT IN YOUR SPECIAL. WHAT? I DON'T WE ALL ONLY CULVER JUDGE. I THINK THAT A ON, [00:45:16] WE USED TO, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY IT TAKES, WHY YOU CAN'T GET THAT WINDOW REPLACED. THE WINDOW REPLACED. WELL, ONE THING I, I TOLD JERRY I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT ARCHITECTS RENDER YOU 20 UP IDEA WHAT COULD DO TO THIS. AND I'D HATE TO SPEND HUNDRED ON THAT WINDOW IF WE'RE JUST GONNA KNOCK IT OUT. ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHY I HELD OFF ON IT. AND YOU CAN'T GET THAT WHOLE WINDOW. DON'T THEY DON'T MAKE THAT WHOLE PIECE. THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO LIKE THEY DID ON THIS END. RIGHT. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT GLASS HAS BEEN TELLING US FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WELL, YEAH. ANYWAY, WE CAN GO AND FIX IT. IT MAY BE A LONG TIME BEFORE THAT REPLACED. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GO AND REPLACE IT. IS THAT A GUNSHOT WOUND? IS THAT A GUNSHOT? YEAH, ABOUT 10. YEAH. TO COME TO THE WEAKNESS. YEAH. I'M SORRY, JUDGE, THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR OFFICE. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. I'LL, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT SHE TOLD ME HAPPEN WHAT? SHE SAID THAT 360 4 DAYS OF THE YEAR, THERE'S MANY PEOPLE IN THOSE LAST TWO. THEY ARE, WELL THIS START, I SAID WRITE ALL YOUR STUFF DOWN. THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THERE YESTERDAY. I MEAN, WEEK. I WOULD EXPECT A LOT OF IN. OH YEAH, SHE'S SITTING. DID YOU KNOW, TELL YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT OR MAKE IT? I PERSONALLY, I HE WAS OUR CHURCH FOR, HE WAS THE OLDEST MEMBER. THEY SAID, I THOUGHT MOTHER, MOTHER WAS BUT HER BY OH, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THERE WAS SOMETHING NINE, SIX YEARS OLD. HOW YOU DOING? YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL YOU PUT YOURSELF, WE WATCHED A STORY ON JOHN UNITED STATES. YOU WERE, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT PARADIGM. I WAS TELLING MY KID ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD DO AS TEENAGERS ONLY HAD HOUSE AND HE, JOHN JOHN ADAM WAS TERRIBLE CALLING PEOPLE BACK. YOU SAY JOHN ADAMS THE PRESIDENT. ONE VICE PRESIDENT TO HIM. YEAH. AND SO THEY, THEY NEVER DID LIKE EACH OTHER. AND UH, RIGHT AT THE END OF IT, IT SHOWS JOHN ADAM GETTING SICK AND HE A BAD MOTHER FOREVER. JEFFERSON TWO, THE LAST ADAM'S LAST WORDS WAS, I HATE TO DIE [00:50:01] THEN JEFFERSON STILL LIVED. AND GUESS WHAT? JEFFERSON DIED TWO HOURS BEFORE. BEFORE THEY OUT ON THE DIED. WHAT? I I KNEW YOU WERE. OKAY. SO ONLY TWO TIMES I'VE MADE PROMISES. WE, WE'VE BEEN IN COURT UNTIL AFTERNOON. . ANY OTHER TIME WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE BY 10 30. THERE'S A SPELLING HANDWRITING. I, WHEN YOU TELL HIM I NEED YOU TO WRITE. MM-HMM. SO I KNOW I STAMP I'LL SOME STAMPS. SECOND SAID, ONCE GOTTI'S FIELD, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OVERCAST, STILL SAW HER SHATTER. OVERCAST WOULDN'T YEAH, I DID. THEY KNOW THEY'RE UNDER TIME CONSTRAINTS OVER THERE. WELL, HE COULDN'T GROW UP BEFORE. WAS SHE, WAS [00:55:01] SHE MOVING INTO ANOTHER HOUSE? NO, SHE MOVED INTO, WE, UH, STARTED TRIAL IN, UH, ZORA COUNTY. WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S, UH, UH, FREEPORT AREA DOWN. YEAH. FREEPORT IS NOT THE COUNTY STATE. WHAT'S THE COUNTY STATE? ANYWAYS, IT COULD TAKE, DOES HE DO ANY CRIMINAL? WELL, YEAH, HE DOES CRIMINAL CASES. THIS IS ONE OF HIS ASBESTOS CASES. HE'S THE ONEDAY LIKE CHUCK. DOES SHE KNOW ANYBODY THERE? SHE DAY? OH, HE HAS, HE'S GOTTA HAVE A LEGAL ASSISTANT. HE DOES. WE GET BILL THAT'S GOT HIS BROKEN DOWN. HIS, I SAID THEY DON'T CHARGE INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE ORDERS EVERY TIME WE GO OFF THOSE SEMINARS DOWN IN, BUT NOT DINNER. WE TOOK HIM TO DINNER. GOT THE TAPE RECORDER ON. MR. JACKSON. SIR, YOU GOT THE WORD THAT I POINTED TO YOU ON THAT JERRY. STILL WANT THAT'S HAVE YOU BEEN TO A MEETING YET, JC NO, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. UH, BILLS COMMISSIONER ROUND SAYS PAY THE BILLS. COMMISSIONER JACKSON SAYS IT'S OKAY WITH HIM. ALL FAVOR. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. I LOOKED ON MY CALENDAR. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY COUNTY DEFENSE THIS WEEK. UH, THIS BRING US TOGETHER UNTIL NEXT MONDAY. BUT, UH, IF GOOD LORD'S WILLING AND THE GREEKS DON'T RISE, WE'LL BE HERE MONDAY. ADJOURN. OKAY. MOTION TO ADJOURN BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. LET'S DO IT. JUDGE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.