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COMMISSIONER
MR. GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK PEOPLE WITH PRIVILEGED AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER TODAY TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.
PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND GIVE US THE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS.
WE THANKFULLY, FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT TH HAS GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THIS LIFE GIVING RAIN THAT WE GOT LAST WEEK, ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME.
I PLEAD ALLEGIANCE TO DO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND INCLUDING FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, THE INDIVISIBLE.
WITH, WITH LIBERTY AND I, JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS STATE, GOD, ONE, AND INDIVISIBLE.
Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION, APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROUND, ALL IN A I A MOTION CARRIES.
OKAY, I I'M GONNA, UH, CHANGE THE ORDER AROUND A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING.
JACK HAS, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS ON IT, AND HE NEEDS TO GET TO A MEETING AT 11.
SO, UH, JACK, YOU WANT TO COME ON UP AND I GUESS THAT'S ITEM TO CONSIDER BID ZERO NINE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR BEST CONTROL, SOIL STABILIZATION FOR ALL PRECINCTS.
DO THAT, JUDGE, APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE HELD OFF ON, ON AWARD, TRY THIS PRODUCT PRECINCT THREE SEVEN WITH IT.
PRECINCT HAS TRIED IT, DOING REAL WELL, AND I THINK PRECINCT MAY BE, UH, AND THEY'RE A BID.
I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
WE AWARD, THEY'VE GOT BID AND ALSO PRODUCTS.
AND, UH, THE ESTIMATE BASED ON, ON THE, UH, GALLON USAGE, UH, COMES TO TOTAL 2 6500.
AND I THINK WE ESTIMATED 75,000 GALLON.
WE'RE HAVING BETTER LUCK WITH THAT EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK TO AWARD THE BID TO NOW VIRAL WHAT NOW? ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT TECH.
ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT SLASH VIRAL TECH.
I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T GET SALTWORKS IN THAT.
PARDON ME? I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T USE SALTWORKS SLASH THE YEAH, YOU'RE REALLY, YES, SIR.
UH, YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE? THAT'S IT, SIR.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS MR. DAVID SHIELDS IS GONNA, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
I BELIEVE YOU DIDN'T GET THE EMAIL, BUT NO, SORRY ABOUT THE TIME.
I WAS ASKED TO, UM, TO COME TALK TO YOU ABOUT A SITE CALLED THE TERHORST SITE IN TERRELL.
IT'S A, UH, NOW CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE U-S-E-P-A, THE SUPERFUND PROGRAM.
AND MR. CLARK ASKED ME TO COME EDUCATE YOU AND BE AVAILABLE IN CASE YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SUPERFUND PROCESS,
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WHAT MAY BE GOING ON AT THIS TIME, AND WHAT WE MIGHT EXPECT IN THE FUTURE AS FAR AS ACTIONS BY THE EPA ON THE PROPERTY.THE VANDER HORSE SITE WAS A CHROME PLATING FACILITY THAT OPERATED, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, BUT, UM, IT WAS SHUT DOWN A FEW YEARS AGO.
ABANDONED, IT'S NOW CURRENTLY ABANDONED.
NOTHING'S BEEN, UH, MANUFACTURED ON THE PROPERTY FOR THREE YEARS.
WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE PROPERTY? DO YOU KNOW? INDIVIDUALS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT'S JUST SOME INDIVIDUALS, THE CORPORATION.
I TRIED TO FIND SOME INFORMATION ON A CORPORATION, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK TO BE SOLVENT.
IT LOOKS TO BE, UH, UH, PRETTY MUCH OUT OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BEND HORSE, AND IT WASN'T NEEDED TO BEND HORSE AT ONE TIME.
DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW IF IT WAS EVER DEEDED TO VAN A HORSE? I DO NOT KNOW.
I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE CHAIN OF TITLE, BUT THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE.
UM, YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW THE WAY SUPERFUND WAS DESIGNED WHEN IT WAS PASSED INTO LAW IN 1980, UH, IT HAS TO DO WITH JOINT AND SEVERAL LIABILITY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND, UH, JOINT SEVERAL LIABILITY WOULD BE ANYBODY IN THE CHAIN OF TITLE AND ANYBODY THAT HAD ANY DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S INDIVIDUALS OR CORPORATIONS.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF EMERGENCY REMOVAL ACTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS STABILIZE THE SITE AND AT THE SAME TIME CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS, COLLECT SOIL AND GROUNDWATER SURFACE, SOIL SURFACE WATER.
IS THIS A CITY THAT'S DOING THIS? NO, IT'S E-P-A-E-P-A HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON THIS.
UM, SO, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY THEY'D SPENT SO FAR? UH, 4 MILLION.
WHICH I ASSUME THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING FOR THE SUPERFUND.
I ASK, I DON MAYBE FOR A, A LONG TIME, AND, UH, THIS ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER BACKGROUND, WHEN I GOT, WHEN WE ALL GOT THE LETTER FROM THE TCEQ THAT THEY WERE GONNA PUT US ON THE NATIONAL PRIORITY LIST, UH, I CALLED THE MR. PATTON GUY OR CONTACT WITH TCEQ.
AND, UH, HE TOLD ME THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GET EDUCATED ON THIS PROCESS.
AND SO, BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW, SOMEBODY SAYS, IF YOU EVER NEED HELP, CALL ME.
DAVID MADE THAT MISTAKE SEVERAL YEARS AGO,
SO I CALLED HIM, I SAID, WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS.
TELL US, TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL AT LEAST KNOW WHAT WE, THE PROCESS IS.
UM, THE, UH, THE SITE HAS, THE EPA HAS COMPLETED THEIR PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT AND, UH, THEIR SITE INSPECTION PHASE.
AND I, I MADE, UH, THE PRINTOUT I GAVE YOU IS JUST SOME BASICS ON THE STAGES THAT A SUPERFUND SITE GOES THROUGH.
AND, UH, RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE JUST ENTERED PHASE TWO, AND THAT IS THE RANKING, THE NPL LISTING.
AND THEY'LL TAKE ALL THE DATA GATHERED TO DATE, AND THEY WILL, WILL TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION AND RUN IT THROUGH A MODEL BASED ON RISK, RISK TO HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
THEY'LL LOOK AT, UH, THE SUBSURFACE ROUTES OF GROUNDWATER AND SOIL.
THEY'LL LOOK AT THE SURFACE ROUTES OF SURFACE SOIL AND SURFACE WATER, AND THEN THEY'LL LOOK AT THE AIR ROUTE.
THOSE ARE ALL ROUTES OF EXPOSURE TO HUMAN HEALTH AND TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION AND WE'LL RUN IT THROUGH THIS MODEL RISK ASSESSMENT MODEL, AND THEY WILL SCORE THE SITE.
AND IF IT SCORES GREATER THAN 28.5, UH, ON THE LISTING, THEN IT WILL RANK AS A FEDERAL SUPERFUND SITE.
RIGHT NOW, KAUFMAN COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE ANY FEDERAL SUPERFUND SITES.
WE'VE GOT SOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD COUNTIES, BUT NONE IN KAUFMAN YET.
I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE DATA.
I ASKED IF THAT WAS GONNA BE AVAILABLE.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY TO SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS, UH, THESE ROUTES AND, AND CONCENTRATIONS.
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SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE GETTING VERBALLY ARE QUITE HIGH, AND THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE OFF THE PROPERTY.IN OTHER WORDS, HEXA, CHROMIUM AND OTHER CONTAMINANTS HAVE MIGRATED IN THE SUBSURFACE AND POSSIBLY ON THE SURFACE OFF THE PROPERTY INTO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
NOW, THIS IS IN OFF OF GROVE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, SO THAT'S NOT GOOD.
WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA, AND THIS WOULD BE IN A SURFACE MIGRATION ROUTE, EVENTUALLY INTO A DRINKING WATER RESERVOIR, SEA CEDAR CREEK, UH, DRINKING WATER RESERVOIR.
SO IT HAS A CHANCE, IN MY PRELIMINARY OPINION, IT IT HAS A CHANCE TO RANK.
AND, UH, IF IT DOES RANK, THEN, THEN IT'LL BE ON THE MPL AND WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRST SUPERFUND SITE IN THE COUNTY.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT US THEN? WHAT, WHAT ACTION ARE WE, WELL, WE, I, I STARTED TO GET INTO IT, UH, THERE A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY.
UM, THE WAY HIS SUPERFUND LAW WAS WRITTEN IS IT'S JOINT, SEVERAL LIABILITY TO ANYBODY THAT HAD THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS ON THE PROPERTY.
ANYBODY, LIKE IF IT WAS A WASTE DISPOSAL FACILITY, A DEEP WELL INJECTION, IT WOULD BE ANYBODY THAT CONTRIBUTED THEIR WASTE TO THE BOREHOLE AND GOING INTO THE SUBSURFACE.
AND THERE WOULD BE A LIST OF ALL THE PEOPLE AND EVERY ONE OF 'EM WOULD BE LIABLE FOR THE TOTAL COST OF CLEANUP.
BUT SINCE THIS WAS A MANUFACTURING FACILITY, IT WOULD BE ANYBODY IN THE THAT HAS BEEN IN THE CHAIN OF TITLE, ANYBODY WHO HAS OWNED OR CURRENTLY OWNED OR OWNED IN THE PAST DURING OPERATIONS, AND THEN ANYBODY THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE WASTE THAT WAS GENERATED AT THE SITE.
THAT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER OF WHAT WAS RELEASED TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO UNLESS THE COUNTY HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SITE OR THE PROPERTY, UH, I JUST DON'T, I I DON'T SEE WHERE YOU COULD BE BROUGHT IN.
UM, WHERE IT DOES AFFECT THE SHOW, AS I UNDERSTAND, IS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE 34 AND MATERIAL IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT 34 PROJECT UNTIL THIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM IS TAKEN CARE OF.
IS THAT, AM I NOT RIGHT THERE? THAT COULD BE GRAPHICS.
UH, THEY, THERE'S, UH, PROBABLE
WHAT THEY SENSITIVE THIS SITE OR NOT? I DON'T REALLY KNOW FOR SURE.
UH, THEY SAID IT JUST, JUST INCREASE THE COST OF PROJECT.
IT CAN BE DONE, BUT IT, IT WILL INCREASE THE COST OF PROJECT.
NOW, AS FAR AS GETTING AN ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE ON IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO THAT PROJECT.
WELL, WE WILL, WILL WE KNOW ANYTHING UNTIL EPA COMES AND WRITES IT AND PUTS OUT THEIR RATING AS FAR AS WHETHER IT'LL RANK, WE, WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE MODEL IS, IS RUN.
AND THEN, UH, IT'S MORE LIKELY, I USED TO BE A FIELD INVESTIGATOR FOR THE EPA AND I WAS ON THE NPL TEAM, UH, AND IT'S HRS TEAM, HAZARDOUS RANKING SYSTEM, AND WE WOULD RANK SITES.
SO IT'D BE SOMEBODY, PROBABLY A SUBCONTRACTOR, UH, WHO RUNS THE MODEL, RUNS ALL THE DATA THROUGH THE MODEL.
NOW, WHERE YOU CAN GET HELD UP IS IF THERE'S INSUFFICIENT DATA TO COMPLETE THE MODEL, THEN YOU GOTTA GO BACK AND YOU GOTTA GET MORE DATA.
AND THAT THIS, THIS IS NOT A QUICK PROCESS.
IT'S, IT'S MY MAJOR CONCERN, JERRY FOREST, THE COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY THING WAS THAT IF THIS GOT INTO SOME GROUNDWATER AND SOME DRINKING WELLS OUTSIDE THE CITY, WITHIN THE COUNTY, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST THING, AND ACCORDING TO THE ERIC DELGADO WITH EPA OVER THERE, THAT THEY'VE DONE A PRETTY EXTENSIVE SEARCH ON WATER WELLS IN THAT AREA, AND THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PART.
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS TILL JUST THE OTHER DAY THOUGH, BUT I WAS WORRIED.
WE SPOKE TO IDENTIFY THESE WELLS OURSELF WE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, TALK TO KATHY, TALK TO, UH,
HE SAYS THAT THEY'VE DONE A, A, AN EXTENSIVE SEARCH.
WHAT WE HAD TO DO, WHEN, WHEN I WAS DOING THIS, WE HAD TO GO DOOR TO DOOR AND WE HAD TO INTERVIEW ALL THE PEOPLE WITHIN A RADIUS OF THE SITE.
AND WE HAD TO ASK, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU HAVE A, WELL, IS IT FUNCTIONAL? WELL, ARE YOU USING IT FOR DRINKING PURPOSES? IRRIGATION? IF THERE'S JUST ONE WELL THAT THEY'VE FOUND, THEN THE SUBSURFACE GROUNDWATER ROUTE GETS A REAL
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HIGH SCORE AND YOU CAN RANK A SITE DEPENDING ON THE SENSITIVITY OF IT, ON, ON JUST ONE OR TWO ROUTES.SO, AND I DID A PRELIMINARY SEARCH LOOKING IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS, AND THERE ARE, THERE IS USABLE GROUNDWATER.
UH, HISTORICALLY THE CITY HAS BEEN ON AND THERE'S SOME, UH, INDUSTRIAL WELLS, IRRIGATION WELLS, AND THE CITY HAD SOME WELLS, UH, THAT ARE NOW NOT, NOT IN USE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN PLUGGED AND ABANDONED, BUT THERE IS USABLE GROUND WATER.
SO, WELL, I'M STILL HEARING IF I, I'M, OR WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED OR UNTIL THE EPA COMES OUT AND, AND TELLS US HOW THIS THING IS RATED OR ARE THEY SEARCHING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE GROUNDWATER PROBLEMS, OR, I'M STILL JUST HEARING IF, DOES THAT MEAN THAT, THAT IT'S NOT A, I I WISH I, I WISH I HAD MORE.
I'M SAYING IF, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD HAD A CALL INTO BOTH OF THESE, THE ON SCENE COORDINATOR AND THEN THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE SITE, I'VE HAD CALLS INTO 'EM AND I CAN'T OKAY.
GET A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION OUT OF 'EM.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE SOMEBODY WITH A LITTLE MORE YEAH.
SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS YET.
I HAVEN'T TALKED TO TEXT, I'M SURE SINCE IT'S WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY WAITING FOR EPA TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION AS WELL.
UM, I, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE NEED TO BE, I DO BELIEVE WE DO NEED TO BE MORE PROACTIVE THAN JUST SITTING BACK AND WAITING.
WHEN YOU SAY WE, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE WE COUNTY.
EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY'S INSIDE THE CITY? YES.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY LIABILITY TO THINK.
IT'S, MY CONCERN IS FOR THE, THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY, IF THIS, BECAUSE THEY FOUND THIS
AND SO THAT MEANS THAT IT'S LEAVING THE SACK, PROBABLY IT'S LEAVING THE SACK.
IS IT GETTING OUT TO SOMEBODY'S GONNA WATER WELL, YEAH.
WE DON'T, AND OUR, AND WE NEED, UNTIL I THINK OUR, UNTIL SOMEBODY TELLS US THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS, WE NEED, THAT'S WHY THEY COME IN.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? DO WE, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GO OUT AND YEAH.
WHAT DO WE NEED? FIND THESE WATER WELLS OR WE WAIT UNTIL SOMEBODY FINDS A FOREST OR ARE WE, ARE WE ON WAIT AND SEE IF THEY'VE DONE AN EXTENSIVE SEARCH? EXTENSIVE SEARCH, THEN WE NEED THE INFORMATION.
SO WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO TO BE PROACTIVE AS THE COUNTY? I, I THINK THE RESIDENTIAL, THE NEIGHBORHOODS PE POTENTIAL PERSONS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY IMPACTED BY THE SITE, THEY'RE GONNA START ASKING QUESTIONS AND WE NEED SOME ANSWERS SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THE PEOPLE DON'T WORRY.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE, THEN WE NEED TO BE A SQUEAKY WHEEL AND GET, GET THAT DONE.
BUT, UH, I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT THE SPECIFICS.
I REALLY TRIED TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
SO, SO IF THIS STUFF IS IN A WELL OR IS CONTAMINATED, UH, SOME OF THE CREEKS GOING DOWN, THE CEDAR CREEK WOULDN'T SHOW UP WITH WATER TESTS OR WOULD IT NOT? I MEAN, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? IT WOULD SHOW UP THAT SHOW UP IN THE WATER.
THEY HAVE BEEN OUT WITH A DRILL RIG.
THEY HAVE, UH, IN INSTALLED BORINGS AND POSSIBLY GROUNDWATER MONITORING WELLS.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO IN ORDER TO RANK THE SITE.
SO THE, THE, I WOULD WANT TO CONSULT WITH JOHN ON THIS, BUT JOHN, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE, YOU KNOW, A BLANKET, UH, STATEMENT BY THE COURT THAT, THAT THIS POSSIBILITY MIGHT EXIST AND, AND URGE EACH INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNER THAT HAS A WELL OR LAKE, UH, THAT GETS RUN OFF, TEST THAT, UH, WATER, MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE, STILL SAFE.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO OTHER THAN HIRE SOMEBODY TO GO DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE EBA DOES.
BUT IF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, WE SHOULD DO YEAH.
IF WELLS HAVE BEEN SAMPLED, IF THE WATER WELL SEARCH DOOR TO DOOR SEARCH AND AND INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED, I'D HATE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
AND IF HE SAID EXTENSIVE TO ME, IF HE SAYS, WE'VE DONE AN EXTENSIVE SEARCH, MEANS THEY'VE DONE ALL THAT, THE COUNTY NEEDS TO GET THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN INFORM PEOPLE THAT
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THEY NEED TO BE INFORMED AND MAYBE EVEN MAKE IT AVAILABLE PUBLICLY FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE IT.WELL, IF YOU GOT THE INFORMATION, IT'D HAVE TO BE MADE PUBLIC.
IS THIS, THIS WEBSITE THAT YOU HAVE POSTED ON HERE? CAN YOU FIND THAT DATA? WILL IT BE PUBLISHED ON THAT WEBSITE? NO, IT'LL BE IN THE FILES AT, AT EPA REGION SIX IN DALLAS.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'LL BE ON THE WEBSITE.
I'M, I'M NOT REALLY, UH, I, I LOOKED AND I, I COULDN'T FIND ANY DATA YET, BUT, UH, THEY MAY HAVE.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A STANDARD THING WITH MILK AND TRYING TO, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST OR LAST ONE, BUT WE KIND OF NEED TO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT IF IT'S NOT OUR LAST PLATFORM.
UH, LOOKING THROUGH THERE, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL SAY THEY'LL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THEY'VE GOT ON THIS S SITE.
UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WHERE EVERYTHING CAME OFF, THAT SITE'S LISTED ON HERE.
IT'S BEEN DETROIT, MICHIGAN, IT'S BEEN, UH, DEER PARK'S BEEN HOUSTON, UH, 300,000 GALLONS OF STUFF BEEN HAULED OFF THE SIDE, TELL YOU WHERE EVERY TRUCKLOAD STUFF GOES.
NOW, AS FAR AS THOSE TECHNICAL THINGS, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE FOOTNOTE BOTTOM THAT THESE WEBSITES JUST SAYS AVAILABLE AT THE, AT THE, AT THE, AT THE OFFICE.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'LL BE A FILE THIS THICK AND SOME I'VE LOOKED AT IT EVEN WORSE.
SO I PUT THAT ON THE INTERNET WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT THEY MAY HAVE A SUMMARY WITH THE TABLES SHOWING SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS OR SOMETHING.
BUT AS FAR AS THE ENTIRE REPORT, UH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE AT THE REGION SIX, I, I'M, I GUESS I'M STILL A LITTLE DENSE.
I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
I MEAN, IF WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE EPA THAT YOU KNOW, HOW BAD THIS IS, WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT, HOW CAN WE BE PROACTIVE? I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TIED INTO WAITING AND WAITING ON EPA TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
UNFORTUNATELY, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME AS FAR AS TAKING ACTION, GOING TO THE SITE, COLLECTING SAMPLES? WE WOULDN'T BE AUTHORIZED TO DO THAT ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO WE WOULDN'T GET PERMISSION TO DO THAT ANYWAY.
UH, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS YET MYSELF.
HOWEVER, A BLANKET STATEMENT BY THE COURT SAYING THAT THIS STUDY HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION AND THERE MIGHT POSSIBLY BE SOME GROUNDWATER, UH, CONTAMINATION, AND IF YOU DO GET YOUR DRINKING WATER FROM YOUR OWN SOURCE, YOU MIGHT HAVE IT TESTED.
I DON'T, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I DON'T, WE'RE TELLING THE PEOPLE WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS OR NOT THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A CHECK THEN I THINK WE'D BE EXONERATED FROM ANY LIABILITY FROM ANY FUTURE CONTAMINATION DOWN THE LINE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.
THE, THE TCEQ GUY TOLD ME TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY MM-HMM
HE TOLD ME TO TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
WHAT WE CAN'T, THAT'S WHAT I ASKED DAVID TO COME IN AND HELP AND TELL US WHAT WE, WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT.
I'M KINDA LIKE YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, BUT I'D LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
WELL, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE WAITING ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THAT COULD WORSE COUNTY GOVERNMENT
I'M NOT GETTING IN KNOW OF THAT, BUT, UM, I, THE REASON I DON'T WORK FOR HIM ANYMORE IS BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY FRUSTRATING AT TIMES, YOU KNOW, UH, BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THIS.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD STEP FOR THE COUNTY TO JUST MAKE PEOPLE AWARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, UH, BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO THERE.
BUT IT LOOKS TO BE OFFSITE IN HIGH CONCENTRATIONS.
WE DO NEED TO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND, UH, I THINK REALLY THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE ASKED, BE KEPT IN THE LOOP FOR RESULTS WHEN THEY COME OUT.
I THINK THE PCQ, THE EPA COURT WILL NOTIFY PERSONS OF INTEREST AND ALL THE ONES I'VE SEEN WOULD'VE NOTIFIED IN THE PAST HAS BEEN COMMISSIONER'S, COUNTY JUDGES, ALL THE MAYORS IN THE AREAS AND THINGS SUCH THAT, SO THE INFORMATION WILL COME BACK TO US SOONER OR LATER.
BUT I ALMOST LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET SOMETHING FROM EPA BEFORE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S REALLY ANYTHING OUT THERE.
DON'T, WE DON'T, DON'T WANNA CAUSE A PANIC OR ANYTHING THERE.
I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT AND HOW DANGEROUS THIS STUFF IS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, UH, MAKE EVERYBODY SCREAMING AND YELLING UNTIL, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE DO NOTICE SOMETHING.
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WELL, FOR EACH OF THESE STAGES, THERE IS A REPORT WITH ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR THE PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT, A SITE INSPECTION WHERE DATA WAS GATHERED THAT IS AVAILABLE.BUT YOU THINK EPA HAS BEEN OUT THERE? THEY HAVE THAT, THEY HAVE THOSE REPORTS.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE IMMEDIATE THREAT RESOLVED BY SEPTEMBER.
ACCORDING TC KEEP, WHEN YOU THINK OF IT, IF THEY THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY SERIOUS THAT THEY WOULD'VE NOTIFIED THE CITY OR US OR SOMEBODY.
I THINK THEY NOTIFIED EVERYTH.
WHERE THEY'RE PUT ON THE NATIONAL PRIORITIES LIST.
AND THAT, THAT QUALIFIES FOR BE ON THE SUPER FUND APPLICANTS ON THE NBL.
I SAID THERE'S ONLY 37 OF THEM IN THE HOME STATE OF TEXAS.
SO SOMEBODY THINKS IT'S SOMEWHAT SERIOUS, THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
THIS WAS DATED JUNE 19TH, JUNE, JUNE, JUNE.
THEY HAVE MOVED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STANDARDS.
THEY HAVE MOVED EXTREMELY FAST ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO THEY ARE TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
IT MUST BE ALREADY A PRIORITY IN REGION SIX.
SO THAT'S WHY HE SAID TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND HE KNOWS ROUGHLY, HE KNOWS THE DAY KIND OF DATA, THE NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE GETTING.
AND IF THEY'RE AT 400 PARTS PER MILLION AT 45 FEET AND THE GROUNDWATER IS YELLOW BECAUSE OF PEXA CHROMIUM, THEN THIS IS VERY SERIOUS.
IT'S HIGHLY TOXIC AND IT'S A PER SYNOGEN.
SO THE MAXIMUM, THE FOUR OH, IN RELATION TO THE MAXIMUM EPA ALLOWANCE IS A HUNDRED OH PPP PARTS PER BILLION.
SO BILLION OR MILLION A HUNDRED PARTS PER BILLION EPA IN GROUNDWATER.
AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY MAY BE FROM JUST SOME VERBALS AT 400 PARTS PER MILLION.
HE OF ELK COMING IN THE GROUNDWATER OFFITE.
AND YOU KNOW, IS, IS IF I TOOK A GLASS OF WATER FROM MY FAUCET, ACTUALLY, I I, IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN GROUND WATER, IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN WATER, WELL THAT WOULD BE THE, THE CONCERN.
OTHER WORDS, I GET MY WATER FROM MAYBANK.
IF, IF YOU HAVE A WATER WELL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU'RE USING IT JUST TO WATER YOUR GARDEN, NOT NOT TO DRINK OR USING IT TO, TO FILL A TROUGH FOR YOUR CATTLE OR HORSES, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE CONCENTRATIONS, IT COULD KILL YOUR ANIMALS AND IT'D BE TAKEN BY THE PLANTS IN THE SURFACE WHEN YOU WATER IRRIGATE, BE UPTAKE INTO THE PLANTS AND THEN INGESTED BY WHOEVER IS GROWING THE CROPS.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE TO DO AN EXTENSIVE WATER.
WELL SEARCH LOOKING FOR SIT SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
AND WE FOUND 'EM, WE FOUND WELLS THAT WERE HAND DUG IN THE 18 HUNDREDS THAT WEREN'T ON ANY DATABASE.
AND, UH, YOU, YOU GO DOOR TO DOOR, YOU CAN FIND THEM AND IF THEY FIND JUST ONE, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY WOULD GET PERMISSION TO TEST THE GROUNDWATER AND THEN INCORPORATE IT INTO THE PACKAGE FOR, AND CONSIDER IT FOR RANKING.
CAN AN INDIVIDUAL TAKE A GLASS OF WATER OUT OF HIS OWN WELL AND SEND IT TO, OR HAVE IT TESTED? ABSOLUTELY EXPENSIVE.
UH, FOR, UH, TO TEST FOR HEXAVALENT, CHROMIUM AND GROUNDWATER, IT'S, UH, A $25 TEST, $30.
AND THEN YOU ADD MORE METALS AND IT COSTS MORE.
AND THEN ORGANIC ANALYSIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A MENU OF WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TEST FOR.
AND THEN THEY HAVE DIFFERENT FEES, BUT FOR METALS IT'S NOT VERY EXPENSIVE AT ALL.
NOW THE EPA LAB PROBABLY CHARGES A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WORKS.
BUT ANYWAY, PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THAT.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT SAME ISSUE THEN IN ROSSER.
ROSSER WAS A VERY HIGH, UH, WATER TABLE.
AND THEY WERE DOING SOME MINING OUT THERE.
UH, AND WE MADE, WE MADE NEGOTIATE THE MINING COMPANY SOME OF THE WELLS PRIOR TO DIGGING,
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SET A BASE LEVEL.UH, AND THEN AFTER THEY GOT DONE, THEY TESTED THE WATER TO ENSURE THAT IT DIDN'T CONTAMINATE THEIR DRINKING WATER.
AND THAT WAS GOOD MOVE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHAT'LL HAPPEN WITH THOSE SHALLOW GROUNDWATER SOURCES IS WHEN YOU GO TO DISTURBING A BIG AREA, YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE IT WITH TUR, YOU'LL INCREASE THE TURBIDITY AND, UH, RELEASE SALTS AND DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
AND THE RUNOFF FROM THE EQUIPMENT, ALL THEIR SEPTICS, IT'S ALL SEPTIC CITY.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHY WE WERE CONCERNED.
WELL, DAVID, BE A GOOD ONE TO CONSULT ON THINGS LIKE YOU HANDLED WELL ON THAT PART.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
I WANNA TALK TO SOMEBODY THAT DID KNOW AND I THOUGHT IT WAS BE OF RELEVANCE TO THE COURT TO AT LEAST GET SOME EDUCATION ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE PROCESS IS ON BE.
WELL, I, LIKE I SAID, I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR FOR THE EPA, DOING WHAT THESE GUYS ARE DOING AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
AND, UH, LOVE TO CONTINUE TO BE A RESOURCE TO YOU GUYS.
WHATEVER YOU NEED, I'LL LEAN ON YOU.
SO ANYWAY, I HOPE I'VE HELPED YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT I LEFT MY CARD WITH YOU IN CASE YOU GOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT INFORMATION TO US.
YOU JUST OFFERED TO, UH, LIKE RAY, UH, CALL ME IF YOU NEED EMAILS.
UH, KIND OF AGREE WITH JERRY IN A WAY THAT WE KNOW MORE ABOUT IT.
COULD CAUSE PANIC EVERYBODY IN.
THIRD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PRETTY LOOSE.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN REQUEST ANYTHING FROM EPA WHERE THEY'RE I LUCK.
YOU WERE ALREADY DOING ANYTHING.
YOU DOING WELL, I GOT MY CURIOSITY UP.
SAID I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
DID DID YOU REALLY JUST MAKE A OBVIOUSLY HE JUST APPOINTED RAY.
I WAS JUST, YOU INJURE ANYBODY.
IT'S A POSSIBILITY THEN IT, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT MORE'S NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT YET.
UH, LARRY SAID BECAUSE THE RAIN, WE DON'T NEED TO CONSIDER THAT TODAY.
I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER VALER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK THAT WE TABLE THE BURN BAND, UH, RESOLUTION ON THE FAIR SIDE.
UH, NEXT ONE IS CONSIDER USING THE $30,000 FROM THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE KEMP SUB COURTHOUSE.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MINE.
UH, THE CONSTRUCTION FUND HAS, HAS QUITE A BIT LEFT OVER FROM, WE DID SOME OF THE OTHER CONSTRUCTIONS.
AND THE, THE SUB COURTHOUSE THERE IS, IS SO PROUD THAT RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S STORING ALL THEIR DOCUMENTS IN THE JURY AND IT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE TO STORE THE DOCUMENT.
UH, MARY PORTER HAS GIVEN ME AN ESTIMATE OF 30,000 JUST TO BUILD A VERY SMALL ROOM ON ONE SIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE FOR STORAGE.
ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY I THINK IT WOULD BE STORAGE IN ONE SMALL OFFICE IS WHAT IT REALLY IS.
UH, AND WE DO HAVE THE FUNDS, SO I WOULDN'T MAKE THAT MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWING DISCUSSION.
UM, WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH JACK ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT
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IT FALLS WITHIN OUR PROFESSIONAL SEARCH CONTRACT WITH MART.AND UH, MATERIAL PURPOSE TYPE THING RIGHT NOW? YES SIR.
ALL THE MATERIAL PURPOSES NEED TO GO, JACK.
UH, THERE'S A DEFINITE DOWN EVERYBODY.
I LIKE TO GO TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S PLEDGE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY'RE OUT SPACE DOWN THERE LIKE A LOT OF PLACES.
SO WE'VE GOT SPACE ON POINT, BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT FOR A WHILE.
BUT THEY NEED TO TAKE DOWN THERE, UH, TODAY.
UH, AND I WOULD IMAGINE IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE COMMISSIONER ROW BE PUTTING ON THE AGENDA TO DO SOMETHING THE OUTSIDE OF
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WE SPEAK.
SO I GUESS YOU'RE KNOW ALL I FAVOR, AYE.
UH, ANNUAL ROAD REPORT FOR FILING FOR TON COUNTY PRECINCT.
WE DECIDED TO, UH, INJECT A LITTLE, UH, UH, LEMME GIVE YOU ONE OF THESE.
UH, WE GOT TIRED OF JUST LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS AND SEEING BRO SEEING UH, I KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE.
SO, UH, WE JUST GOT US A, WE MADE A NEW PICTURE PUT ON FRONT OF OURS THAT I TOOK AND UH, WAS THAT TAKEN OUT TO YOUR BEDROOM WINDOW? YES, I DID.
AND WE HAD A LITTLE NOTE ON THERE THAT SAID, UH, THE CARDINAL RULES OF A COMMISSIONER ARE TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS, ADDRESS COMPLAINTS AND ABIDE BY TADD.
YEAH, I DIDN'T WANT, I'M SURE THE GRAND JURY WILL, WE DIDN'T WANT ANOTHER PICTURE OF A MOTOR GRADE ON OUR, SO WE CHANGED IT UP.
WELL I WAS GONNA ASK WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT A PICTURE OF YOUR PARROT ON THERE, BUT, BUT I SEE NOW WHY YOU WANTED THE CARDINAL USE THE CARDINAL RULE.
ALRIGHT, GERALD, MAKE THE MOTION.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.
I THOUGHT I SAW A COUPLE PEOPLE SITTING IN THE BACKGROUND.
WE HAVE DISCUSSED, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE QUARTERLY REPORT FOR WRITER SEALEY LIBRARY PROPERTY COUNTY PRECINCT THREE MS. SO DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? YOU'VE GOT THE DATA IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, THAT CIRCULATION FIGURE UP 27%, UH, OVER THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT UP.
WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING AS FAST AS WE CAN PRETTY MUCH.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT OUR INFORMATION REQUESTS ARE UP 75%.
UM, A LOT OF BUSINESS GOING ON.
UH, YOU'LL ALSO NOTE THAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE UP 35% IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS WE'VE HAD AND 43% IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ATTENDED.
UM, WHICH IS A NICE SEGUE INTO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, JOHN
JUST, JUST BRIEFLY, WE'VE BEEN, JUST TO KIND OF HIT HOME THE POINT THAT MS. SULLIVAN BRINGS UP.
UM, WE HAVE OVER 600 REGISTRANTS IN OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM, WHICH IS FOR KIDS ZERO TO 18, BUT PREDOMINANTLY THAT'S A ZERO TO 12 GRAND.
YOU START TO DROP, YOU START TO LOSE THE TEAMS BECAUSE THEY GET JOBS AND THINGS.
OF THAT 641% OF THOSE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, BUT INSIDE THE COUNTY, UM, KAUFMAN AND 40 ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY HEAVY, BUT WE HAVE, UH, CAMP MAYBANK, ELMO, I MEAN YOU NAME IT.
WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM EVERY LITTLE TOWN, UH, IN THE COUNTY THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE SERVING.
UM, AND IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED MORE THAN WE HAD LAST SUMMER.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY OBVIOUSLY HELPS US 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO DO FREE STUFF.
UM, WE'RE OFFERING SOME NEW PROGRAMS, TRYING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE A PROGRAM GOING FOR THE KIDS SIX DAYS A WEEK, EVERY DAY THAT WE'RE OPEN, EXCEPT SUNDAY WE HAVE A PROGRAM FOR THEM.
SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN AS BUSY AS THEY'VE BEEN.
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CHILDREN'S, HALF OF IT HAS BEEN EXTRA BUSY 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL OUT OF SCHOOL.UM, BUT OF THAT, A LARGE PERCENTAGES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, CITY, INSIDE THE COUNTY.
SO WE'RE TAKING CARE OF EVERYBODY THAT COMES THROUGH THE DOOR.
ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
CERTAIN WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT.
COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL MAKE IT.
COMMISSIONER WILL SECOND IT ALL.
SAY I A MOTION TO CARRY, DISCUSS DISCUSSING, CONSIDER APPOINTING ELECTION JUDGES AND ALTERNATE JUDGES FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE, 2010.
I THINK, UH, IS OUT TOWN, MEXICO, PRESENT? THEY ARE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY WHY DONNA'S NOT ON THAT, ON THAT BACK PAGE.
SHE WORKS THE ELECTION HERSELF.
NOT AS A PRECINCT CHAIRMAN, BUT YOU THE PRECINCT CHAIRS EARLY HOLDING JUDGE, SHE'S NOT IN THERE WITH YES.
YEAH, SHE THE WORK, THE WORKERS, THE CLERKS AREN'T LISTED.
YEAH, SHE CLERK LISTED ON THESE LISTS.
JUST THE OBJECT EACH PRECINCT HAS.
NOVEMBER 3RD, 2009 ISN'T THE ELECTION, ISN'T IT? 2010.
THIS FALL, HUH? THESE GO THROUGH FROM JUNE, JULY TO JULY YEAR.
WELL, THIS SAYS EARLY VOTING JUDGES FOR NOVEMBER 3RD, 2009.
I WAS LOOKING AT, I WASN'T AGENDA.
THIS IS JUST THE EARLY VOTING JUDGES.
YEAH, IT IT THE EARLY VOTING JUDGES.
IS THAT THE RIGHT PAGE? NOVEMBER 3RD, 2009.
SAY THAT AGAIN? THE LAST, THE LAST PAGE.
EARLY VOTING, VOTING JUDGE ALTERNATE FOR NOVEMBER THE THIRD.
BECAUSE WE'RE APPOINTING THEM, UH, FOR THIS NOVEMBER ELECTION.
AND IN THE PRIMARY, THE PARTIES WILL SUBMIT A NEW LIST.
SO THE EARLY VOTING, THAT LIST IS CORRECT FOR NOVEMBER 30TH, BUT WE'RE APPROVING ALL OF THE JUDGES THROUGH NEXT JUNE.
THE JUDGES JUST NOT THE UH, EARLY VOTING.
YOU'RE APPROVING BOTH OF THEM.
IT'S, YEAH, BUT THE ALTERNATES WE'RE ONLY, AND THE EARLY VOTING, WE'RE ONLY APPROVING FOR THIS NOVEMBER ELECTION.
WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE EARLY VOTING JUDGES FOR NEXT SPRING OR NEXT NOVEMBER.
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EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION.AND THAT'S IN CASE THERE'S A SPECIAL ELECTION OR ANYTHING, THEN THESE JUDGES WOULD APPLY TO THAT.
WELL I HAVE THE CONCERN THAT, THAT, UH, JIM DOES THAT THE REGULAR JUDGES WERE POINTING THROUGH JUNE OF 2010.
BUT THE EARLY JUDGES WERE ONLY POINTING TO THIS ONE ELECTION THIS FALL.
WE SHOULD BE DOING BOTH OF THEM.
LET'S NOTE THE, THAT'S NOTE, THE TITLE ON THE TOP SAYS, JUST SAYS FOR NOVEMBER THE THIRD, 2009.
THAT'S THE EFFECTIVE THAT YEAH, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TIED LIKE THAT.
BUT THEY'RE BEING APPOINTED THROUGH JUNE 20 10TH.
A COPY LIKE THAT, THAT'S ONE THAT MR. MURPHY DID THAT SHOWS THEM UP THERE AT THE TOP.
JUDGE IS ALL THE WAY THROUGH JUNE, 2010, I THINK.
WHAT HE'S WORRIED ABOUT AT THIS PART WHERE IT JUST SAYS RIGHT HERE, VOTING JUDGE, FEDERAL ELECTION.
THAT'S MY LIST THAT I HAD TYPE UP FOR THIS.
SHOULD THAT SAY THEN THROUGH JUNE 10TH, WHICH THIS LIST DOES.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO WHEN WE ATTACH IT TO THE AGENDA IS HAVE THIS LIST.
THIS, THIS ONE IS THIS, UH, OUR LIST.
BECAUSE THE, THE, THE AGENDA, THE AGENDA DOES NOT STATE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2009.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE SAME, SAME, SAME PEOPLE.
WHO'S GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION? I'LL MR. BROWN.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER.
UH, NEXT ONELL DISCUSS THE CENTER ESTABLISHING THE COMMISSIONER COURT MEETING ROOM AT THE CO COUNTY COURTHOUSE ANNEX AS THE CENTRAL COUNTY STATION FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE, 2010.
THIS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW, STATE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK ALL IN
THEN WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POINTING THERE FLOYD AS THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE COUNTY STATION FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE, 2010.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TELLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
A MOTION CARRIES, THEN WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING PJ GIBSON AS THE COUNTY STATION MANAGER FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE, 2020.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING OF PHILLIP OSTEEN AS THE TABULATION SUPERVISOR OF THE COUNTY STATION FOR ALL ELECTIONS FOR JUNE, 2010.
MAY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
WHERE DOES, DOES GEORGE NOT FIT IN ANYMORE? NOT DID GEORGE NOT WANT THAT? CORRECT.
IS THAT CORRECT OR HE DOESN'T WANT DONE? I JUST, I HAVE ONE CONCERN.
DOES NOT HAVE TO BE BY STATUTE.
HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AN EMPLOYEE.
IS THIS THE LAST DAY THIS HAS TO BE DONE? IS THIS THIS JULY? HUH? JULY.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN DONE IN JULY, BUT ONE OF THE PARTIES I GET MISSED.
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OKAY.UH, SO COUNTY MOTION FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.
UH, GEORGE IS NOT INTERESTED DOING THAT.
IS THIS, IS THERE SOME KIND OF QUALIFICATIONS YOU HAVE TO HAVE? BILL DO THIS? YES.
ELECTION CODE, UH, SECTION 1 27 0.003 AT THE TOP.
THAT'S THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE TECHNICIANS SUPERVISOR.
WELL, NEXT QUESTION IS IF HE'S NOT A COUNTY EMPLOYEE, WHO DETERMINES HOW MUCH HE'S PAID? UH, THAT IS BY THE AUTHORITY ESTABLISHING THE COUNTY STATION.
SO REALLY THE ONLY QUALIFICATION HE HAS TO HAVE IS BE A REGISTERED MOTOR AND TRAINED IN THE OPERATION OF THE CALCULATION EQUIPMENT, WHICH HE HAS.
WAS THE AUTHORITY ESTABLISHED IN THE COUNTY STATION COURT? I THINK SO.
I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, UH, APPROVE HIM, BUT, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE THE SALARY LATER TODAY.
IS HE, IS THIS PERSON QUALIFIED TO DO THIS JOB? SIR, IS THIS PERSON QUALIFIED TO DO THIS JOB? YES.
HE HAS TAKEN THE, UH, HEART TRAINING COURSE.
ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? THE AYE AYE.
A I HAVE ONE CONCERN AND THAT IS SETTING THE SALARY OF THAT INDIVIDUAL.
SINCE THE STATUTE SAYS IT'S UP TO US TO DO IT.
MY CONCERN KIND OF GOES BY THE WAYSIDE, BUT WE STILL HAVE CONTROL OF THAT.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT AGENDA, ISN'T THAT? YEAH.
THOSE OPPOSED MO MOTION CARRIED.
NOT IF WE DON'T, NOT IF WE DON'T APPROVE.
NEXT WE WANT TO CONSIDER APPOINTING CAROL AGA AS THE ASSISTANT TABULATION SUPERVISOR OF THE COUNTY STATION FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JUNE, 2010.
SHE'S AGREED TO THAT, SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION JUDGE.
AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LER.
WOULD WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEM TRANSFER? YES.
BUT I LEFT THEM IN MY OFFICE AND I DID NOT MEMORIZE THEM, BUT THEY, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE WAY UP HERE AS WE SPEAK.
BUT THEY'RE, UH, TRUE, HONEST, AND CORRECT AS YOURS ALWAYS ARE.
I BROUGHT THOSE PASSING THAT'S ON,
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SITTING HERE WAITING SINCE NINE O'CLOCK.WE POST A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM TRANSFERS IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS.
PRODUCTION OF INSURANCE COSTS.
DA'S OFFICE INCREASED LEGAL INVESTIGATIVE EXPENSE, $2,400.
THE PRODUCTION OF COMMAND JURY EXPENSE, GAS AND OIL ELECTION EXPENSES, INCREASED MILEAGE MILL AND LOGIC.
3000 PRODUCTION OF BUILDING EQUIPMENT, FIRE MARSHALS.
UH, DEPARTMENT INCREASED TWO, TWO EQUIPMENT.
8,000 AND MISCELLANEOUS 2,500 WITH REDUCTION OF GAS AND OIL.
8,000 MILES, UH, MILE MILLS AND LODGING.
A THOUSAND AND TRAINING EDUCATION.
WE HAVE A SWITCH BETWEEN SALARY FOR TAYLORS AND SALARY FOR NURSES.
34,000 AND UH, INCREASED MILEAGE, BILLS AND LODGING.
WE'LL SWITCH BETWEEN ATTORNEY FEES FOR CPS AND FLORIDA.
DISTRICT COURT 25,000 CHILD SHELTER, INCREASED INSURANCE.
7,007,000 9 52 WITH ION OF OFFICE FURNITURE RECREATIONS VOTING PRECINCT ONE.
INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS 1500 WITH ION OF HARDWARE PRECINCT.
3000 WITH DUCTION OF VEHICLE CLEANUP AND SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION.
PRECINCT CAP 3,700 WITH REDUCTION OF OPERATING COSTS.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO CERTIFY ADDITIONAL REVENUES BEFORE AGE EDUCATION, ONE $86.
AND UH, PARTICIPATION FEES FOR DIVERSION COURT.
$3,583 AND THE JUVENILE PROBATION INCREASED, UH, SECURE PLACEMENT, UH, REIMBURSEMENT.
THAT REIMBURSEMENT OF COSTS IN JUVENILE PROBATION THAT WERE BUDGETING FOR SECURE REPLACEMENT OF $2,040.
UH, WE HAD SOME REIMBURSEMENT.
REIMBURSEMENT OF ELECTION EXPENSES OF 2010.
AND IN GENERAL BOND WE HAVE, UH, SOME GRANT REIMBURSEMENTS.
HOW THE FOR WHAT WAS THAT FOR NEW EQUIPMENT.
APPROVE ALL THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS EXCEPT THE, UH, UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFER REFERRING TO THE FARM MARSH.
I SAID THE MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE.
APPROVE THE, UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FIRE MARSHAL'S.
UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FIRE MARSHAL SECOND JURY.
JIM WILL SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS USED FOR? I'M SORRY? YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE UH, ADDITIONAL NUMBER WAS GONNA BE USED FOR.
I DID, BUT IT HADN'T ALREADY BEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
BETTER THAN, BECAUSE ONCE IT GETS IN THERE
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TO MR. PETTY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE FORMER COUNTY AUDITOR OF COFFEE COUNTY, JERRY PUTTY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO DECONTAMINATE THAT AND RESPONSIBILITY THEN GIVE HER SAID[01:05:54]
DID UH, UH, HUFFMAN GET A THIS MORNING? YEAH.I'M HE'S SUPPOSED GONNA CALL HIM STUFF ABOUT SNACKS THAT YOU AT THE WORKSHOP.
WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT FOR SUPPER TONIGHT? STAY BECAUSE NEXT YEAR, NEXT YEAR'S GOING BE BELONGING.
PRECINCT FLOOR THERE AT EIGHT.
HE WAS THERE AT EIGHT O'CLOCK.
WHEN DID HE LEAVE? I'M NOT SURE.
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JUST QUESTION LAURA ABOUT THIS CHARGE.IS THAT A NEW CAR? WE'RE JUST WITH YOU.
THAT'S, THIS IS NOT EVEN, THAT'S WHAT I PUT IN 12 INCH OF DEEP.
THE MOTIVATOR COME BY AND DIG UP THE FIRST PASS.
THAT ONE THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH, UH, ATT I GUARANTEE PART OF THAT WAS ON TOP OF THE GROUND WHERE WE DUG IT UP WITH THIS FEE.
HE SAID, WELL Y'ALL HAVE, Y'ALL HAVE WORKED THAT DITCH SO LONG.
YOU, YOU THAT AND I, I THINK THE JUDGE YOU GOT THREE OR FOUR LETTERS FROM THEM? I GOT THREE OR FOUR.
THEY GAVE, THEY THEY DON'T THINK THEY'VE DONE ANYTHING OUT THERE.
YEAH, LEFT SIDE IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
I THOUGHT SHE, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER SHE SAYS THAT SHE RIGHT, HE GOES HERE OR, WELL, I THINK HE WENT TO EMERGENCY ROOM OVER THERE AND THEY WERE SENDING HIM OVER HERE.
YOU SENT HIM OUT TO HER FIRST.
THAT WOULDN'T BE A BAD DEAL EITHER.
WHAT? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, HE DOES THE UH, CHECK.
I HAD A, SOME SIGNS JUST STARTED BACKING UP.
YOU SEE WHERE HE WANTED TO GET THE SIGN AND THIS GUY'S GOT FLYING DRIVEWAY.
HE COULDN'T, YOU CAN'T SEE IT TO GET YOUR NOSE UP.
THE GUY BACKING UP THIS GUY JUST DRIVEWAY,
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REAR NO DAMAGE CALLED D-P-S-D-P-S SAID THE GUY COMING OUTTA THE DRIVEWAY IS CALLED FAILURE.THEY WERE RIGHT AWAY INTO A ROAD, THE PUBLIC ROAD.
SO HE COME OUTTA YOUR DRIVEWAY AND DID SOMEBODY YOUR FAULT GABRIEL, YOUR GUYS BACKING INTO HIM? YEAH, HE SAID YEAH AND HE HAD A DENT AND A HOOD AND THE DPS GUY SAID, HELL THAT DENT HOLES.
THEY BUY GROCERIES FOR PEOPLE.
UH, THE INDIGENT HEALTH, UH, PER SE? NO.
YEAH, THEY DO PAY FOR MEDICINE.
I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE THERE TO FIRE CASSIE.
I'M ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO DO MY PART.
HOW TO GET, HE TOLD ME THE FIRST TIME I DROVE BACK THREE TIMES BEFORE I CALLED HIM.
MAN, NOT SUPPOSED TO ASK FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
THIS PLACE THREE TIMES FOUND IT YET.
I NEED ONE LANDMARK SOMEWHERE.
THAT'S WHERE WENT 41 0 6, 13 90.
GIVE, THIS IS C THIS IS CRASH SHOW.
YOU GONNA GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT PEOPLE? THEY SHOULD BE, THEY GOT THE LAST HALF MILE OF THAT ROAD.
STATION IS ON THE LEFT SIDE ROAD.
TURN THERE AND GO UP TO, UH, 1390.
1390 GOES KIND OF LIKE THAT DID LETTER.
YOU SEE A FARMHOUSE, RIGHT? I KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
LEASES, UH, EVERYBODY USED TO GO OUT THERE.
YEAH, PAUL BE I BET THAT IS GOOD.
OKAY HERE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT,
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UH, GET CONTRACT WITH COUNTY JAIL, THESE OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE BEDS.UM, SO I, I GOTTA GO OUT THERE WITH COURSE.
SAID WHAT SAID WAS, HE SAID, I'LL, I'LL LOOK AT IT.
HE JUST SAID IT WAS ON THAT JPS SIDE.
THAT SIDE THE WAY HE SAID IT, THE OLD SIDE.
JOHNNY, JOHNNY, PERRY, JOHNNY.
YOU JUST GOING HAVE TO HAVE SOME GUTS.
JC WENT THERE AFTER I, AFTER I GOT A COPY OF HOW LETTER BROKE DOWN IN A RASH.
I HAD A RASH ALL OVER, ALL OVER MY BODY BUMPS AND RED AND I'VE BEEN ITCHING AND SCRATCHING AND GOT INTO MY MOUTH.
SEE MY FINGERS STILL SOME SIGNS.
DO YOU'S WIFE, SHE'S GOT POISON.
THE FIRST POINT WAS YOU'VE BEEN UNDER STRESS LATELY.
JUST IT WAS ALL OVER, OVER HIS ARMS. HAD A SIX MONTH CHECKUP.
STARTED AT SIX O'CLOCK AND GOT HOME TWO O'CLOCK.
WHAT JURY AM I GONNA HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND CUT THAT OFFICE STUFF OUT HER? YEP.
YOU HAVE IT? WELL THE FIRST TIME WE LET YOU ON DOWN THE ROAD BUD.
IF THERE'S EVER A CASE AGAINST YOU, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET OVER TO JUDGE LEWIS
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT BOTHERED HER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK SHE HAD CUT HERS WHAT SHE THOUGHT SHE SHOULD HAVE AND SURE.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I MEAN SHE'S USUALLY REALLY PRETTY EASY TO GET ALONG WITH.
REALLY? 1 CENT DISTRICT, ALMOST 600,000.
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TWO THINGS.IS THAT WHAT CAUSED THAT? ARE WE GONNA, IT LOOKS THAT BAD UP THERE TOO.
DID I HEAR RAY AND JERRY? UH, HE WOULDN'T VOTE FOR MY GUY.
AYE I VOTE THAT FREDDY I I'LL, BUT I, I DON'T THINK SO.
YOU KNOW JOHN
AND WE HAD LAKE ORDER APPOINTMENT.