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FATHER, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING TO BE DOWN ON THIS COMMISSION COURT, BE DOWN ON THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE THAT ARE MAKING DECISION TODAY.
FATHER, BE A SPECIAL BLESSING FOR MY MOTHER.
SHE'S AND HER ILLNESS, BUT DOWN HER AND BLESS HER.
AND FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THE TROOPS THAT ARE OVERSEAS, THAT ARE FIGHTING IN THE NAMES OF THIS COUNTRY, BLESS THEM, THAT THEY MAY HAVE A SAFE TO TURN BACK HOME.
BLESS THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS GREAT NATION.
ALL THIS WE SON OF JESUS NAME, AMEN.
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH, WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
SAY, I BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.
BRIEFLY, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THAT, I WAS JUST GONNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT CONGRESSMAN ERLING WILL BE HERE TODAY IN THIS BUILDING AT FOUR 15.
IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN COMING BY AND LISTENING TO HIM, UH, AS YOU KNOW, IN THE PAPER, UH, YOU'VE SEEN WHAT A CONSERVATIVE, A PHYSICAL CONSERVATIVE HE IS, AND HE'S GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE HEALTHCARE PLAN.
SO IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING TODAY.
SO ANYBODY, UH, TALK TO ANYBODY YOU KNOW THAT THINK WOULD BE INTERESTING TO COME OUT AND LISTEN TO IT COME ABOUT FOUR 15 IN THIS BUILDING TODAY.
Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DELLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRESENTATION CONCERNING A PLANNING CONSORTIUM AND DISCUSSION.
JERRY, YOU AND, UH, YOUR COMPRE, COME ON UP HERE.
AND IF YOU STAND OVER HERE IN FRONT OF THAT MIC, THERE'D BE TWO THINGS WOULD HAPPEN TO BE ON TELEVISION, AND EVERYBODY IN THE COURTROOM CAN HEAR YOU.
AND I, I, I SEE Y'ALL DIDN'T GET THE WORD ON OUR SUMMER DRESS CODE.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU SEND THAT JUDGE CLARK.
WE WANT TO BECOME, UH, DIFFERENT, BUT WE, WE KIND OF, UH, COMPROMISED.
WE SAID, WE WON'T WANNA INSULT THE COURT, BUT WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO WEAR A JACKET, SO LET'S JUST WEAR A TIES.
AND WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD.
WELL, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A, I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, I CERTAINLY CAN GIVE YOU A REPORT ON WHAT, UH, IS TAKING PLACE IN ROCKWELL COUNTY.
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UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO BRING GREETINGS FROM ROCKWELL COUNTY, THE, UH, FORMER PANHANDLE KAMAN COUNTYWE, WE, UH, KNOW THAT THE DEAL WAS STRUCK IN 1873.
IT WAS IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN'S.
BEST INTEREST IS IN CITY OF ROCKWELL'S BEST INTEREST.
AND SO HERE WE'RE TODAY STILL ATTACKS HISTORICALLY, BUT SEVERAL, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ROCKWELL COUNTY DON'T KNOW THERE WAS A PANHANDLE.
YEAH, WELL, I WAS ONLY SIX YEARS OLD.
I JUST, YOU REMEMBER, UM, WE, UH, IF I'M, IF I SNEAK OUT OF TURN, JUST GIMME A NOD OR DAVID, UH, DAVID, UH, WE HAVE A PLANNING CONSORTIUM THAT THE COUNTY STARTED IN, UH, ABOUT 2003.
COMMISSIONER BEATTY WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF IT, UM, UP UNTIL LAST YEAR WHEN, UM, HE LEFT OFFICE.
AND THE COURT, UH, ASSIGNED THAT TASK TO, UH, COMMISSIONER MAGNUS, THE CHAIRS THAT GROUP IT.
UM, IT STARTED, UH, BY, IT STARTED SOLELY BY THE COUNTY.
UH, AND IT WAS DONE BECAUSE OF, UH, UH, THE FAST GROWTH WE HAD.
AND WE WATCHED, UH, THE CHALLENGES WE HAD ON, ON, UH, WE WATCHED THE VARIOUS CITIES AND THE COUNTIES THEY HAD AND, AND THOUGHT SURELY WE COULD MAKE SMARTER DECISIONS IF WE, UH, AT LEAST SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT, UM, ALL THE THINGS WERE COMING OUR WAY.
UM, AND WE, WE DID ON PURPOSE, KEEP IT INFORMAL.
IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOT, UH, BYLAWS AND REGULATIONS AND OFFICERS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
UH, WHEN WE STARTED, WE WANTED, UH, UH, MOSTLY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN OUR MUTUAL INTEREST COUNTY AND EACH ONE OF THE CITIES TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LITTLE BETTER AND ROUTINELY HAVE AN EXCUSE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
SO ONCE A MONTH, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE CITY? IF I COME TO THE COURTHOUSE AND HAVING A CUP OF COFFEE WITH US AND A COOKIE OR SOMETHING AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, IN BETWEEN YOUR DAY AND YOUR NIGHT, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR BEST INTEREST NOW, WHAT WE USED RATHER THAN, AND EVERYONE WAS EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK BECAUSE THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT NEED THAT EVERYONE HAD, AND IT'S KIND OF BEING UN BED, AND EVERYBODY COULD WONDER WHAT IS, WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE BETWEEN ROCKWELL AND ROY CITY WHEN THEY BOTH, WHEN THEY, WHEN IT ALL BECOMES A CITY.
AND SO WE SAW OUR ROLE AS THE ONLY GOVERNMENT IN, IN COUNTY THAT COULD STEP UP AND PROVIDE SOME LEADERSHIP BY HOSTING AND KIND OF COORDINATE THIS, THIS GROUP, AND THAT, THAT'S THE BASIS OF HOW IT GOT STARTED.
NOW, WHAT, UH, WHAT'S MADE IT LAST THAT LONG OR WHAT'S MADE IT BE SUCCESSFUL IS, IS KIND OF ANOTHER STORY.
I THINK, UH, MY OWN VIEW IS THAT, UH, IS THAT WE DIDN'T, UH, SET IT UP AS A FORMAL STRUCTURE.
WE HAD, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES, ELECTED OFFICIALS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST MEETING OR TWO, EVERYTHING'S WONDERFUL.
UH, EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION, AND THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THEN FOR THEM TO FOCUS ON.
AND WE USED, AT THE TIME, COLLIN COUNTY HAD COME TO US AND ASKED US TO CONSIDER, UH, DOING A QUARTER STUDY FOR THE TRANSEX CORRIDOR.
AT THE TIME, IT WAS NOW THE OUTER LOOP THING, OF COURSE.
AND SO THE COMMISSIONER STEWART DECIDED TO SPEND $250,000 FOR A CARTER STUDY.
AND HOW DID AN ENGINEERING FIRM DO THAT? WELL, THAT SERVED AS A GOOD, UH, THING TO TALK ABOUT MONTHLY, BECAUSE EACH CITY WAS INVOLVED IN THAT.
AND SO AS WE WENT THROUGH, UH, UH, THOSE ITEMS AND HAD THOSE ENGINEERED REPORT, IT GAVE THE ROOF SOMETHING TO KIND OF FOCUS ON.
AND, AND THEN IT ALSO HELPED US BECAUSE AS THEY GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER MORE, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW A DELICATE PLEA TO PUT THIS JUDGE, BUT IT WAS LIKE, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU GO TO THE FBI ACADEMY AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN WITH A BUNCH OF STRANGERS AND EVERYBODY'S GOT BIG EGOS, AND, AND, UH, THE FIRST, UH, TWO OR THREE WEEKS, SOMEBODY MIGHT COME BY YOUR ROOM AND SAY, WOULD YOU CARRY THE DINE NIGHT? AND THEN AFTER THAT FIRST MONTH OVER WITH, SOMEBODY COMES BY AND SAY, HEY, HORSES, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S GO GET A HAMMER.
AND SO YOU CAN, WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LITTLE BIT, WE TALK ABOUT
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THE SAME THINGS.THINGS START WORKING A LITTLE BETTER.
AND SO WHEN THE CARTER, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS TRYING TO BE CARVED OUT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FATE AND ROY CITY, AND EACH CITY HAD INTEREST AS WE WATCHED THAT UNFOLD, WHERE IT IS FOR ECONOMIC REASONS, YOU KNOW, FOR, AND THEY WENT THROUGH THAT AND AGREED TO IT.
SO THAT MADE THE, THE ALIGNMENTS A LITTLE EASIER JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS A VEHICLE IN PLACE TO TALK ABOUT SUCH THINGS WHEN THEY POPPED UP.
HOW MANY MEMBERS DID YOU HAVE IN THIS THING? DID EACH CITY JUST HAVE ONE? EACH CITY? EACH CITY WE HAD, WHAT WE STARTED OFF WITH, WE INVITED THE MAYORS OF EACH CITY, AND WE DID THAT JUST, UH, ON PURPOSE BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING THE MAYORS, YOU KNOW, IS, UH, IS THE, UH, FIGUREHEAD OF THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHO WE WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH.
UM, WE, WE, UH, WE HAD, UH, UH, ONE CITY AT LEAST THAT THEIR MAYOR CAME ONCE A TWICE, AND HE WAS TOO BUSY.
SO WE SENT A COUNCIL PERSON THAT REPRESENTED HIM.
EACH STAFF, THEY, AND THEY EACH BROUGHT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HOW WE KNOW ABOUT CITIES, THEY, THEY EACH BROUGHT A STAFF PERSON TO HELP 'EM.
UM, SOMETIMES IT APPEARS IN THE NEWSPAPER, MAYORS ARE REAL SMART, BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET 'EM AWAY FROM THEIR SUPPORT GROUP, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF ANSWERS OR THEY CAN'T MAKE A DECISION.
SO, SO THE CITY MANAGER OR SOMEBODY WOULD ALL BE ALWAYS BE THERE.
THEY GET REFERRED TO BEFORE THEY MADE A DECISION, WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK MS. JONES? OR WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND THEY'D TELL 'EM WHAT TO DO AND THEY, SO, BUT, UM, DID THEY JUST MEET WITH YOUR WHOLE COURT? YEAH, WE, WE JUST, UH, AND SOMETIMES OUR WHOLE COURT WASN'T THERE, BUT WE, WE POSTED THIS WORKSHOP AND CALL IT PLANNING.
ROCKWELL COUNTY PLANNING CONSORTIUM POSTED IT, 'CAUSE THE COUNTY WORKSHOP FOR OPEN MEETINGS.
AND THEN, UH, THEY DON'T, EACH CITY DOESN'T HAVE A FORUM THERE, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND, AND WE, WE, WE, WE TRIED TO, UM, NOT TAKE MANY VOTES.
WE TOOK A COUPLE, UH, BECAUSE, UH, WE DIDN'T WANT TO INVITE THIS FORMAL BODY ACTION WITH SOME CONSENSUS THING.
AND ONE EXAMPLE WITH THAT WOULD BE, UM, AFTER, IN, IN ABOUT THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CHARTER STUDY, WE ALSO WANTED TO REVISE OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND WE SAID, WELL, THIS IS A GREAT GROUP TO DO THAT WITH BECAUSE AS WE HAVE COG COME IN AND TALK TO US ABOUT, UH, REVISING IT, THEN WE'VE GOT EACH CITY THERE LISTENING TO IT.
THEY GO BACK AND TELL THEIR COUNCILS, AND THEN AS WE ROLL THIS WHOLE PRODUCT UP, THEY WILL SUBMIT THE CHANGES IN THEIR CITIES.
IT COMES BACK THROUGH COG THAT WAY.
AND THEN WE ADOPT THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE TIMES WHERE WE SAID, DOES EVERYBODY AGREE ON THIS? AND EVERYBODY DID.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER TIME WHEN WE TOOK A VOTE ON THE, UH, ON THE, UH, QUARTER BECAUSE JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY DECLARED IN PUBLIC, YES, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SATISFIED WITH.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE COULD GO BACK AND DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT IF THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND.
BUT AT LEAST THERE WAS WITNESSES THAT SAID, WE ALL AGREED ON THIS ANOTHER TIME.
DAVID, WE, WE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE TOOK, I THINK WE TOOK A VOTE ON THIS TOO.
THE NEXT PROJECT THAT WE LOOKED AT AFTER THE CARTER STUDY.
AND AS WE WERE WORKING ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AND IF YOU'VE DONE THOROUGH PLAN, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN.
THAT'S, THAT CAN BE A SIX MONTH OR A YEAR PROCESS.
SO EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS GAVE THE GROUP SOMETHING TO BE DOING.
THEY WEREN'T WASTING THEIR TIME AND WE'RE HERE AND IT WAS SOMETHING THEY COULDN'T DO BY THEMSELVES.
AND SELFISHLY, UH, EVERYONE HAS SKIN IN THE GAME.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE COUNTY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF JUST THE OVERALL CONCERN ABOUT WHAT FUTURE COUNTY'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, HOW'S GONNA WORK EACH CITY, BECAUSE, UH, IF ROCKWELL'S GOT A FOUR LANE COMING OUT OF THEIR CITY, GOING SOUTH, AND THAT'S, THEY'RE GONNA ANNEX THAT WAY AND HE'S GOT ONE COMING BACK THIS WAY, THEY SHOULD MATCH.
THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND AND NOT HAVE A TWO LANE GOING INTO THE SIX AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO EVERYBODY HAD A REASON TO BE POLITE AND TRY TO GET ALONG.
AND I, AND I THINK, UH, I THINK IT SERVED, I THINK IT SERVED EVERYBODY'S COLLECTIVE INTEREST AS WELL AS MAYBE SOME OLD TARGETED EACH, EACH CITY MAY HAVE HAD SOME WE DIDN'T, MAY NOT EVEN KNOWN ABOUT.
BUT, UM, THE NEXT, THE NEXT THING WE WORKED ON IS THE COUNTY WANTED TO, UH, HAVE A, A BOND PROGRAM.
WE USED THIS GROUP TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
LIKE WE, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AIRPLANES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE, AND WE AGREED AS A GROUP, UH, WHAT THE ITEMS SHOULD BE AND WHICH ONES WERE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, FOR EXAMPLE, WELL, WE, AND THERE'S NOT A COUNTY.
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FUNNY THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT'S COUNTY.THERE'S NOT A COUNTY ROAD IN THIS BOND PROGRAM.
YOU SEE, THERE WASN'T ONE IN THE NEXT ONE.
THEY'RE ALL STATE HIGHWAYS, FARM TO MARKET ROADS THAT NEED CHANGE.
OUR INTERSTATE, IN OUR CASE, INTERSTATE HIGHWAY INTERCHANGES, THEY ARE OLD JUG HANDLE DESIGN.
AND, AND THERE'S STUFF ALL AROUND 'EM THAT'S GOTTA JUST CHOKE UP.
SO YOU CAN'T GET AROUND TO WHERE COUNTY FIVE 40 NINE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT IS ACROSS INTERSTATE 30 BACK MIDWAY BETWEEN ROCKWELL AND ROSS CITY, OR, OR FATE, I GUESS.
WELL, THIS GROUP, IN ITS BEGINNING SAID THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE TRAFFIC ISSUE IN THE COUNTY.
UM, THERE WASN'T ANY ONE CITY LIMITS EXCEPT ROCK WALLS.
AND THEN FATE WAS ON ONE SIDE OF IT.
BUT ALL THE OTHER CITIES RECOGNIZED THE IMPACT OF THAT ONE INTERCHANGE AS PEOPLE TRIED TO GET BACK AND FORTH.
AND SO WE, WE, WE ESTABLISHED THAT AS NUMBER ONE, THEY APPROVED $4 MILLION ON A BOND PROGRAM TO, TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE STATE AND THE CITY ON GETTING 12 MILLION, 14 MILLION TO FIX THAT.
IT HADN'T, IT HADN'T EVEN BEEN DESIGNED YET.
AND, AND, AND THE REASON IS, AND IT WAS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, BUT WE'RE, WE JUST LET A CONTRACT ON ONE JUST DOWN THE ROAD AU ONE, AND IT IS THE ONE THAT SERVES AS A DETOUR FOR THE 5 49.
WE HAD TO BUILD A NEW ONE BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T SHUT THAT ONE DOWN FOR TWO YEARS.
SO THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS STILL WAITING TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE DETOUR.
WELL, ALL OF THAT GETS HARD TO EXPLAIN IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A GROUP THAT KNEW AND WERE PART OF, AND YOU EXACTLY HAD IT GOT WHERE IT WAS.
SO IT, IT HELPS EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHO NEVER COULDN'T GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'LL HAVE AS COMMISSIONER AS YOU KNOW.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND YOU HAVE THE NEWSPAPERS THAT COME TO SOME OF THESE MEETINGS, THE PUBLIC BECOMES INFORMED OF, UH, WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR MONEY, WHAT'S GONNA COME WITH YOUR MONEY, WHY IT TAKES SO LONG, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND, UH, WE ALSO, UH, DAVID, SOMEWHERE ABOUT, UH, BOND PROGRAM TIME, WE HIRED A CONSULTANT, UM, THAT ALSO BECOME, BECAME AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS GROUP.
EVERY EACH MONTH HE GIVES A REPORT ON THE STATUS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND THE, THE LEVERAGING OPPORTUNITIES ON DOLLARS AND HOW ALL THAT'S CHANGED.
AND IT BECOMES A, IT BECOMES A PRETTY, A PRETTY BIG EFFORT.
SOMETHING THAT, UH, GETS NEARLY, IT'S IMPORTANT AS YOUR BOARD MEETING BY THE TIME ALL THIS STUFF STARTS HAPPENING AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER BOND PROGRAM AWAY, THAT NOW STARTS ANOTHER PHASE OF THAT.
SO IT JUST, ALL THIS INFORMATION BEING PROCESSED, DAVID DOESN'T GET PAID THERE ENOUGH MONEY TO PUT UP WITH IT.
BUT I, I GUESS, UH, UH, I WOULD, UH, IF IF YOU, IF, IF A COUNTY WAS INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, I, I WOULD THINK THAT MY, MY SIMPLE ADVICE WOULD BE TO, TO DO IT INFORMAL AND THAT THE COUNTY CONTROL IT.
UM, AND, UM, THAT YOU, UH, MEASURE THE AGENDA, THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TALK ABOUT.
BUT EVERYBODY HAS PROBLEMS IN ONE CITY MAY WANT TALK ABOUT
BUT WE TRY TO KEEP IT, WE TRY TO KEEP OUR TRAFFIC, TRANSPORTATION RELATED ISSUES THAT WAY STAYS FOCUSED.
AND, UH, IF YOU'RE GROWING LIKE WE ARE, LIKE Y'ALL ARE GROWING, UH, THOSE ARE PRETTY FULL HABITS.
AND, AND IF YOU, UH, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT MOST OF THE TIME BENEFITS THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY, WHETHER THEY LIVE IN BECKER OR WHETHER THEY LIVE IN FORNEY, IF THEY SEE, IT'S NOT MY FRONT YARD RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER IF I GO FROM HERE TO ME, YOU KNOW, SOME SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
Y'ALL GOT A LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE WE GOT GEO GEOGRAPHIC.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT THE SIZE OF ONE PRECINCT HERE AND, AND WE, UH, OUR, OUR MOVE TOWARD BUILD ICE PRETTY QUICK, THE SUMMER PARK PLANT IS MORE, MOST IMPORTANT THINGS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET IT ON PAPER AND YOU GO COUNCIL GOVERNMENT S FOR SOME HELP OVER THERE.
AND IN THE FIRST ELECTION WE GAVE EVERY CITY A PROJECT AND WE KIND LET THEM CHOOSE PROJECT.
WE KIND TO MAKE SURE THEY FIT INTO THE, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO.
AND THEN THE FIRST, FIRST BOND ISSUE WAS TO DO INTERCHANGES ACROSS THE COUNTY ON I 30.
AND, UH, WE KIND OF GOT EVERYBODY'S BUY IN ON THAT, BUT SAYING NOT ALL THOSE PROJECTS ARE HAPPENING, AND YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT'S TO GET MONEY.
UH, AND THE SECOND BOND ISSUE COVERED
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A MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, APPROACH TO THE ROAD ACROSS THE COUNTY.UH, THE THING YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER AND JURY SAYS, KEEP THIS KIND OF, UH, YOU GOTTA KEEP IT UNDER COMMISSION COURT CONTROL BECAUSE THE COURT SAFE ON THESE BONDS AND ACTION OF THIS BODY THAT D WHERE THE MONEY SPENT AND ACTUALLY REALLY WHAT HAPPENS ON THE GROUND OUT THERE.
BUT, BUT I'M CAUTION YOU THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT ROADS AND CITIES ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT ROADS AND, AND IT'S FOR, FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
UH, ONE CITY MAY HAVE JUST A TERRIBLE TRAFFIC PROBLEM.
THEY NEED THAT ROAD TERRIBLY BAD.
ANOTHER CITY MAY NEED IT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEY FEEL THEIR NEED IS JUST AS STRONG THAT ARE HAVING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. THERE'S MORE THAN ONE REASON TO BUILD APPROACH.
AND, UM, NOT EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS HAPPY AND IT, IT'S JUST GONNA BE LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
AND THE REPORT, UH, YOU KIND OF, IF YOU PICK PROJECTS, UH, THE WAY WE, WE, WE TRY TO GET THE FIRST ONE OFF THE GROUND.
AND ONCE YOU DO THAT, THEN IT'S BASICALLY WHAT PROJECTS AVAILABLE NEXT, WHICH, WHICH PROJECT CAN GET THE MONEY, CAN
YOU TRY TO GET AS MANY OF 'EM READY AS YOU CAN AND THEN BUILD THEM AS THE MONEY FALLS INTO THE, AND MOST OF THE TIME YOU DON'T HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT.
THAT MONEY COMES WHEREVER IT COMES.
AND, AND THE CONSULTANT HELPS A LOT IN THAT.
HAVE Y'ALL BEEN ABLE TO REACH SOME KIND OF A CONSENSUS BETWEEN THOSE CITIES THAT HAVE THE DIFFERENT INTERESTS LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE? AND IN MOST OF THESE MEETINGS? WELL, UH, SIX ACRES HEAD NO,
YOU, YOU WORK THE PROJECTS AND, AND FROM A COMMISSIONER STANDPOINT, YOU CAN'T CARE ABOUT WHETHER THEY NEED IT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR WHERE TRAFFIC IS, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE THE NEXT PROJECT AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TELL WHICH PROJECT'S GONNA GET FUNDED AND, AND WE COULD WORK TOWARD THAT.
BUT, BUT ENVIRONMENTAL AND, AND PS AND E AND ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE FALL IN PLACE.
AND YOU GOT RIGHT AND UTILITY RELOCATION, IT IS NOT AS SIMPLE A PROCESS AS IT SOUNDS.
AND, UH, YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE A, WE HAD A, A PROJECT THAT CAME IN UNDER, UNDER THE, OF THE BUDGET AND WE THOUGHT WE'D USE THAT MONEY OVER HERE.
WE FOUND THAT ONE OF THE CITIES OUT, SEE IF THEY CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO YOU, THERE'S JUST A LOT TO IT.
BUT IF, IF YOU HAVE GOOD PEOPLE WORKING ON GOOD PROJECTS, GOOD THINGS HAPPEN AND YOU FORGET.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER THING TOO, THAT, THAT HAPPENS.
AND IT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE USED START WITH.
I'LL SAY BACK IN 2003 WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING AND THEY WERE ALL EXCITED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SOME THINGS DONE.
AND AS THEY CHANGE AND SOMEONE BEATS THEM AND YOU GET A NEW POLITICIAN IN THERE, OR YOU, THEN YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY, UH, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO SLOW DOWN 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT PERSON UP TO SPEED WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING BUT BEING, YOU KNOW, HAVING A BIG EGO.
THEY THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT KIND, NOT YOU, JC
AND FOR TWO OR THREE OF THE MEETINGS, THEY KEPT HAMMERING IT.
THEY WANTED WRITTEN BYLAWS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST VOTES WE HAD.
WE, HE NEVER, THIS PERSON COULDN'T EVER GET A SECOND FOR ANY MOTION HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE LIKE THAT.
AND FINALLY EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM SAYS, WE DO THAT.
BUT, BUT, AND I THINK THOSE ARE WELL-INTENTIONED THINGS, MAYBE FROM SOMEBODY WHO'S STRUCTURED THAT WANTS TO COMPLICATE IT, YOU KNOW? UH, BUT IF YOU KEEP IT INFORMAL, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WORKING THAT WILL, RATHER THAN HAVING A, A FANCY, UH, A JOB CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM, IF YOU CAN DO THAT, WILL, AND IF YOU CAN DO THIS INFORMALLY, YOU'RE MUCH BETTER OFF DO IT THAT WAY.
BECAUSE THERE'LL BE LITTLE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU CAN ARGUE THERE'S ENOUGH THINGS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY TRYING TO ARGUE ABOUT, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LEFT OFF KIND ONE, ONE IMPORTANT PART, AND I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTION.
T AND COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS WILL LISTEN TO YOU A LOT MORE WHEN IT'S THE COURT AND THE CITY THAN IT'S THE CITY WORKING BY ITSELF.
IT REALLY MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
CONSORTIUM IS, UH, SIX YEARS OLD AND
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WE'RE JUST FIXING TO SEE THE, THE RESULTS OF IT, I BELIEVE OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS THAT WE'RE REALLY GONNA SEE SOME REAL IMPROVEMENTS.THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL HELP YOU BECAUSE THE STATE WILL COME IN AND SAY, WE WANT ONE VOICE AND WE PREFER THAT TO BE THE COUNTY TALKING TO US ABOUT BIG ROAD ISSUES AND STUFF.
SO, AND IT ALL, ALL KIND OF, KIND OF WORKS BETTER THAT WAY.
BUT AGAIN, WE WE'RE DEALING MOSTLY WITH THE STATE ROADS.
AND ONE THING I FORGOT TO SAY WAS THAT WE, WE'VE NEVER TRIED TO KEEP CITIES FROM BEING CITIES.
WE WANT THEM TO KEEP, DO WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING.
WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THEIR, SO WE ONLY INVOLVED IN OURS.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ADDRESS THINGS IN BETWEEN THAT A CITY CAN'T JUMP OUTSIDE THEIR CITY LIMITS AND LOOK AT SOME TRANSPORTATION PROBLEM.
BUT WE CAN, SO, UH, AND WE CAN HELP THEM COORDINATE, LIKE I SAID, WANT TO GO THEIR ROAD IS THEY DROVE TOWARDS ANOTHER CITY AND HAVE THE RIGHT CONNECTIONS.
BUT WE DON'T, WE'VE NOT PERMIT MANY TRYING TO ANSWER ALL THEIR QUESTIONS.
THEY, THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR OWN ROADS AND HAVING THEIR OWN.
WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ON THAT ROAD.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING YOU HAVE TO KIND OF WATCH FROM THE SHADOW IS THAT ONE CITY MAY BE MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN THE OTHER.
THEY ALREADY PROGRESSIVE, NOT THE RESTIVE WORD.
THEY, THEY'RE LARGER AND, AND THEY ALREADY HAVE ROAD BOND SYSTEMS AND THEY HAVE CREWS AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR OWN STREETS AND ANOTHER DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
AND THEY MIGHT TRY TO USE THIS TO PROP UP THEIR CITY RATHER THAN RAISE THEIR TAXES AND CREATE THEIR OWN BIGGER CITY, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT KIND OF HAPPENS.
SO HOW MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE IN THIS MEETING DO HOW MANY NUMBERS PEOPLE HAVE ALL TOGETHER? TOO MANY.
THERE'S PROBABLY 17 AT THE TABLE.
FIFTEEN'S USUALLY A MAYOR IN THE CITY, UH, CITY MANAGER, UH, AND THEN TWO OR THREE COMMISSIONERS, USUALLY SOMEBODY TO COG, SOMEBODY TO COG COULD BE THERE TO GIVE A REPORT.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THE WAY THEY WOULD SET IT UP IS THAT, UH, ON THE AGENDA, YOU'LL HAVE THE REPORTS FROM THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW WHICH ONES WHERE AND WHAT'S, WHAT THE FUNDING LOOKS LIKE, SAY.
AND THEN, THEN YOU GIVE EACH, UH, THEN COG IT, SHOOT THERE, THEY GIVE A REPORT ON ON DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, THAT MAY BECOME REGIONAL, WHERE EVERYBODY'S INFORMED.
AND THEN, AND THEN THEY LEADS THAT EACH MAYOR HAVE A, UH, A CHANCE TO GIVE REPORT AT THE END THE AGENDA SO THAT IT GIVES HIM A CHANCE THEY CAN INFORM THE GROUP HERE WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IN NEW CITY.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID THIS AND WE DID THAT.
AND UH, OR IF THEY HAVE ANY SPECIAL QUESTIONS, AND SO EVERYBODY GETS TO SAY SOMETHING AND EVERYBODY HOPEFULLY GETS TO LEARN SOMETHING.
SO WHEN THEY GO BACK TO THEIR CITY, THEY'RE KIND OF INFORMED.
THEIR COUNSEL ASKED HIM, OH, Y'ALL, I HEARD HIM TALKING ABOUT THAT AT THE CONSORTIUM MEETING, SO I KNOW Y'ALL GOT QUESTIONS.
MY QUESTION IS WITH THE, UH, COMMISSION COURT SAYING HE'S BEING CONTROLLED, MEETING OF THE FORM YOU SET UP, WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE IN THE COUNTY? YOU SET UP A PRIORITY LIST OR IS IT DONE ON AVAILABILITY? YEAH, THE FUNDS COME FOR THIS PROJECT, THEN YOU FOCUS ON THAT PROJECT, THE COUNTY SET PRIORITY LIST.
THIS IS THE LIST WE GONNA GO DOWN.
LEMME EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE, UH, THE INTERCHANGE PROJECTS DOWN I 30, THAT, THAT REALLY WERE THE KICKOFF.
AND WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO GET EACH OF THOSE DONE.
UM, AS MATTER OF FACT, WE'VE GOT ONE THIRD TURNING ON ON PRETTY QUICK.
THE OTHER BOND ELECTION TIES INTO THE ROAD, TIE THOSE INTERCHANGES AND ON, ON ALL THOSE PROJECTS, WE TOOK AN X NUMBER OF DOLLARS OF BOND MONEY AND WE, WE DID WORK GOING TO INITIATE CONTRACTS TO DO THE, UH, ENGINEERING AND THE PS PLANT SPECIFICATION AND ESTIMATES IF WE NEED TO DO THOSE.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET ALL THOSE PROJECTS CONSTRUCTION READY, AND THEN WHEN THE MONEY FALLS IN PLACE, THEN, THEN WE'RE HOPING IT'LL BE A THIRD, THIRD, THIRD, THIRD COUNTY OR A THIRD CITY, THIRD TEXTILE GOVERNMENT.
BUT OUR GOAL WITH THE BULK OF THE MONEY, IF PROJECT COMES CONSTRUCTION READY, THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME MONEY LEFT ONCE, ONCE WE HAVE, AND THEN, THEN T REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY ANYTHING TO HOLD THEM UP OTHER THAN THE MONEY.
SO IT REALLY WASN'T THE FACT THESE ROADS, YOU WERE JUST PUSHING THIS PROJECTS A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN ROAD SO THAT THEY COULD BE FUNDED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE FINDING ABOUT 30% LEVEL ON EACH PROJECT.
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AN INTERCHANGE, 25 MILLION, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION FOR IT EXACTLY ON THIS FIRST OH FOUR BOND PROGRAM.THE COURT'S INTENTION WAS THAT, THAT WE WOULD COMMIT $4 MILLION, SAY TO EACH INTERCHANGE, AND WHATEVER CITY THAT WAS IN WOULD DO 4 MILLION, AND THEN THE STATE WOULD DO FOUR AND THAT WOULD DO THE, THAT'S, THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS WE STARTED WITH IT.
AND THEN, UH, THE STATE SAID THEY WANTED TO DO BUSINESS ON THE COUNTY.
AND SO WE, WE FIRST STARTED OFF AS THE BANKER.
WE WERE JUST SAYING, WE'RE JUST HERE TO ORCHESTRATE THIS MEETING.
AND, UH, IF, IF THIS GROUP AGREES AND THE COUNTY THINKS IT'S OKAY THAT WE'LL WORK ON INTERSTATE 30 INTERCHANGES, WE'LL COMMIT $4 MILLION TO EACH PROJECT AND THAT'S IT, WE'RE THROUGH AND WE WERE JUST MONEY AND NOTHING ELSE.
SO WE'VE KIND OF GOT INTO NOW, BUT KIND OF OVERSEEING, UH, THOSE PROJECTS BY JUST, JUST TO, BY KIND OF DEFAULT AND WORKING THE STATE.
BUT THE WHOLE THEORY ON THIS, AND IT'S FOR SOMEBODY'S CONSERVATIVE, IT IS A, IT'S KIND OF A JUMP FOR ME AT LEAST, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF LIKE BUYING STOCK IN A BEAR MARKET.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPENDING BIG DOLLARS IN PASSING BOND PROGRAMS, UH, JUST TO DESIGN ON THE WHOLE, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARTNER THAT GIVES YOU THE OTHER TWO THIRDS OF THE MONEY OR MORE.
BUT, BUT WHAT WE WANT IS, WHETHER IT'S DENTON COUNTY OR COLLIN COUNTY AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE GETTING ROAD BUILT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHO THE COMPETITION WAS.
THEY WERE PUTTING MONEY ON THE TABLE UP FRONT, AND THAT'S WHAT GOT THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE AND THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS ON THE FUNDING NECESSARY.
WE GOT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A $500 MILLION ROAD CROP, AND WE ONLY PASSED A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR ROAD ROAD.
IT WON'T FIX OUR ROADS, IT'LL GET US STARTED.
IF THAT ALL WORKS, IT DOESN'T, WE'RE GONNA MOVE BACK.
TOMAN COUNTY, ONE IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS, IF YOU'RE IN DOING THIS, YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT PROJECTS ARE NOT GONNA HAPPEN QUICKLY AND THAT ESPECIALLY FOR THE LEAD YEARS, THAT THAT REALLY ALMOST NOTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN THAT YOU CAN SEE.
AND WE WERE A LITTLE NAIVE IN THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT COST 12,000,004, FOUR AND FOUR ON ONE THIRD, ONE THIRD, ONE THIRD, AND NOW THOSE SAME PROJECTS ARE COSTING 23 MILLION.
SO WE WERE A LITTLE SHORT ON THAT INITIAL BOND ELECTION.
UH, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED CONSULT TO GET SOME GOOD NUMBERS IN THERE AS YOU GO, UH, AS YOU GET MORE INTO IT.
AND, AND, AND TIME WORKS FOR YOU, THEN YOU'LL GET TO SEE THE THIRD OF THE LABOR.
BUT INITIALLY, OR THREE YEARS, THAT'S, AND IF YOU'RE ONE OF THE SEEDS ACTUALLY ACTUALLY BUILT THE ROAD TWO SPENT AND THEIR MONEY THAT, THAT TODAY, THEY WISH THEY HAD BACK
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE NEEDS TO, YOU NEED TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT EARLY ON YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANY RESULTS FOR YOUR MONEY.
THE STRATEGY, THE STRATEGY IS THAT IF YOU HAVE YOUR PLANS READY ON A PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE THE PLANS READY, AND YOU'VE HAD THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE AND ALL THOSE THINGS SET ON SHELF.
WELL, WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE GOVERNMENT HAS MONEY, IT COMES IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME.
AND IF IT'S FOR A PROJECT IN EL PASO AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR PLANS READY, THEY'LL TURN TO YOU AND YOU GET EL PASO'S MONEY.
SO, BUT YOU NEVER HAVE A CHANCE FOR THAT IF YOU'RE NOT READY.
SO YOU HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE PLANS, HAVE 'EM ON THE SHELF READY TO GO, HAVE SOMEBODY KIND OF OUT HERE SEARCHING AND LOOKING.
SO WHEN THAT MONEY COMES, YOU CAN LOT PEOPLE DO THAT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GET OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT READY.
AND HAVE THEY NOT HAD THAT WINDOW RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY ELSE, THAT MONEY AND THAT, AND THAT, UH, THE ECONOMY HAS DECIDED TO, THAT IT WAS A 26 MILLION PROJECT CAME IN 18, THE TIMING WAS GREAT, THE ECONOMY DOWN AND MONEY WAS THERE, AND WE JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE KIND OF AN ACCIDENT.
SO IT KIND OF DROVE HOME THE POINT THAT THIS STRATEGY IS NOT A BAD STRATEGY.
UH, WE'VE ASKED, WE'VE ASKED COUNCIL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY ON COSTS, THAT OUR NEXT PROJECT GOT THAT DONE, YET WE'RE WORKING ON.
ONE THING JC I WANNA SAY IS THAT WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME RIGHT HERE TALKING ABOUT
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THIS BOND PROGRAM FOR BUYERS AND THIS MONEY AND THESE INTERSTATE.I THINK MY ADVICE WOULD BE IS TO SEPARATE THAT FROM JUST THE IDEA OR CONCEPT OF A PLANNING RESOURCE.
IT MAY NOT INVOLVE ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
IT, IT, IT, IT COULD, IT COULD IF YOU CHOOSE TO OR WHEN THE NEEDS ARE.
BUT JUST THE IDEA OF HAVING, UH, A GROUP THAT COMES TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH PLANNING FOR COUNTY FUTURE.
WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE LIKE 20 YEARS FROM NOW? AND JUST THAT ALONE IS ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME, CITY, COUNTY, HARVARD, AND SAY, ARE WE DOING WHAT WE CAN BE DOING HERE? NOBODY'S STOPPING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
YOU KNOW, THIS CITY'S GOING TO KEEP DOING THEIR DEAL, BUT YOU JUST HAVE ONCE A MONTH WHERE YOU SAY, IF WE FIND A WAY TO DO THIS BETTER AT ANY, OR IS THIS GONNA WORK? Y'ALL GOT ANY IDEAS ABOUT THAT? AND I THINK IF IT DOESN'T, NOTHING TO THAT, IT IS PROBABLY WORTH DOING IT BECAUSE YOU, YOU THEN, AS THE COUNTY OFFICIALS CAN, UH, PUT ON RECORD THAT YOU WEREN'T ASLEEP AS A SWITCH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE IN A DYNAMIC PLACE.
IT'S GROWING AND, AND, AND AT LEAST YOU THOUGHT TO HAVE PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT, A THIRD AIRPLANE SHOULD BE SATISFY EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT ALL, BUT THERE'D BE SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO SAY.
AND IF THERE'S, IF YOU KNOW, IF NOTHING ELSE, IT GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO, TO, TO, UH, HAVE PEOPLE KNOW EACH OTHER LITTLE MORE INFORMALLY.
AND SO AS THEY CROSS PAST COUNTY OR THEY RETHINK THE PAPER, THEY, THEY KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT THAT, THAT REPRESENT STUFF LIKE THAT.
NOBODY EVER GOT A FIGHT, RIGHT? NO FIGHTS.
WE HAVE, I, I WAS A FIGHTER, BUT I, I'VE TO, I CAN'T PREVAIL ANYMORE, SO I DON'T HAVE AN EMERGENCY SERVICE CORPORATION, BUT THE, THE INCLUDES THE AMBULANCE SERVICE AS WELL AS A SHOOTING RANGE, AND THAT'S A SEPARATE ENTITY.
AND, AND OUR PLANNING CONSORTIUM, IT'S STRICTLY A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING CONSORTIUM, BUT IT COULD BE ANYTHING YOU WANT AND IT COULD INCLUDE AS MUCH YOU MENTIONED.
YOU KNOW, THE EGOS WHEN YOU START OUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR EGO AND THEIR THINK THAT THEY KNOW EXACTLY HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE.
AND IN YS COUNTY, YOU GOT GLEN CHILDREN, YOU'VE GOT NORTH CITY, YOU'VE GOT FAITH, YOU'VE GOT ROCK CITY, AND, UM, HOW MUCH INFIGHTING WAS THERE GOING ON BETWEEN THEM? I MEAN, OF COURSE, ROCKWALL AND Y'ALL'S COUNTY, ROCKWALL IS THE BASIC CUT.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT ROCK WALL GROWING.
THEY ALL THE OTHER CITIES HATE ROCKWALL BECAUSE EVERY THE COUNTY, CITY, YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS GET SPECIAL PRIVILEGES.
EVERYBODY ELSE, JOB, YOU KNOW.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THINGS I THINK PROBABLY WE'VE RECENTLY GONE THROUGH A SITUATION WHERE, UH, THE COX SAYS, OKAY, GUYS, WE'VE GOT $20 MILLION HERE, BUT, UH, OBAMA INCENTIVE MONEY.
AND PART OF IT'S, UH, YOU'RE CUT FROM THE, THE TO ROADS.
AND UH, SO WE HAD ONE CITY SAYS, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GOING FAST.
WE'VE GOT THIS PROJECT READY, UH, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO SPLIT IT.
SO THEY WERE WILLING TO SPLIT IT WITH THE OTHER CITY.
THE OTHER CITY SAID, NO, WE WANT IT ALL.
AND UH, SO WE HAD SEVERAL WORKSHOPS AND SEVERAL FORMAL COMMISSIONER'S, COURT MEETINGS, UH, AND THEN WE HAD A SPLIT ON THE COURT.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU GET BY THAT? I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT ONE CITY THAT SAYS THEY'RE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE OTHER CITY, AND THEY'VE GOT PROJECTS READY AND THEY THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, I DON'T, I I'M THIS, THIS IDEA OF, UH, Y'ALL'S, Y'ALL'S, UH, GROUP CAME UP MANY TIMES DURING THE DISCUSSION I DID ABOUT, WELL, ROCKWELL CAN DO THIS.
ROCKWELL DID THIS AND WE OUGHT TO DO IT OURSELVES.
I BROUGHT, I BROUGHT COMMISSIONER, UH, MAG AS LONG AS MORNING, JUST TO ANSWER SUCH
THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, IS TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE BEFORE YOU GET THAT LUMP MONEY IN THERE TO TRY PUT, WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOING BEFORE WE GOT A OF MONEY THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO GRAB ALL OF IT.
AND WHEN YOU GET THE GROUP TOGETHER, THE FACT REALLY IS OVER THE PROJECTS AND WHICH PROJECTS YOU WANT IN AND, AND MAY BE A PRIORITY LIST, BUT, BUT
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PRIORITIES, ONCE, ONCE YOU GET 'EM STARTED, PRIORITIES FALL IN PLACE.WHAT YOU HAVE IS, IS ONE CITY THAT, THAT WANTS THEIR INTERCHANGE SO BAD AND ANOTHER CITY THAT WANTS THIS BYPASS SO BAD.
AND EVERY MEETING, THEY'RE LIVING AND DYING ON THE WORDS OF THAT CONSULTANT OF THE REPORT HE'S GETTING.
AND, AND THAT'S JUST ALWAYS GONNA BE THERE.
UH, FROM MY END OF IT, AS CHAIRMAN OF THAT, I TRY NOT TO GET TOO ADVANCED TO ANY ONE PROJECT, NOT TO BE IN FAVOR OF A PROJECT, JUST I'M LOOKING AT THEM FROM A NUMERICAL STANDPOINT.
AND, AND THE COURT HAS TO DO THAT AND, AND NOT GET INVOLVED IN THAT AND MAKE, AND MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ON THAT.
BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE SOME OF THAT.
AND IT'S BECAUSE IS THE NEED IS SO GREAT OR SOMETIMES IS SO GREAT FREE, IF HAVE A PLAN IN SOMETHING BEFORE HE HAD ANY MONEY, IT'D BEEN A MUCH SIMPLER PROJECT TO WORK ON.
KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU, I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER PY TOLD ME WHEN, UH, WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED, NOBODY WAS IN THE ROOM WHEN THEY GOT 500, WHEN THEY HAD A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ROOM FULL, EVERYBODY'S ALL FLIES.
I KNOW WHAT, WHAT I THINK IT A NO WIN SITUATION IF SOMEBODY HANDS YOU SOME MONEY AND, AND YOU'RE GONNA GIVE IT OUT, YOU KNOW? AND BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SOME CITIES GONNA HAVE GREATER NEEDS THAN OTHERS.
UH, OTHERS HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
BUT THEN THEY SEE THE MAIN THING.
AND YOU, YOU, I DON'T THINK YOU WIN IN THOSE SITUATIONS SOME WAY, SOME WAY TO TRY TO AVOID THAT AND SAY, Y'ALL, HEY, GIMME THAT MONEY NEXT YEAR.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER ROUND HAD A GOOD POINT IS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY THAT, UH, UH, THAT, UH, KAUFMAN MATERIAL HAD BEEN DISCUSSING SOMETHING TOGETHER,
SO THAT'S ONE THING WE DID TO GOOD NEWS.
WE COULDN'T DECIDE WHETHER IT WAS BETTER TO, UH, GO FOR ALL THE SAFETY THINGS OR MAKE A GOOD SO THAT SOME WOMAN COULD GO OVER BUY A PAIR OF SHOES.
BUT THE THING ABOUT IT WAS 7 MILLION OF 20 WAS DESIGNED FOR AND SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, THAT WAS THE OBAMA MONEY.
IT WAS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERIOD.
AND IT HAD TO BE SPENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
BUT THE NEED, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY HAS A SIMILAR NEED, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE FIRST ROUNDS FOR, FOR SITTING DOWN AND TALKING ABOUT IT.
COULD YOU GO INTO DISCUSSION A BIT MORE ABOUT, ABOUT THE BOND THAT Y'ALL HAVE? BOND ELECTION, YOU GOT MONEY AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, BUT STILL THERE'S NO COUNTY ROADS INVOLVED.
YOU HAD THE BOND ELECTION TO SUPPLEMENT AND AUGMENT WHAT NORMAL COST WOULD BE.
BUT, UH, BUT THE WAY WE LOOKED AT IT WAS THAT WE WERE ALL GONNA GET KICKED OUTTA OFFICE.
UH, 'CAUSE THE PUBLIC DIDN'T CARE WHOSE FAULT IT IS.
THEY JUST, WHEN THEY GET IN THEIR CAR, THEY CAN'T GET TO THE GROCERY STORE, OR IT TAKES AN HOUR TO GET TO CALL COUNTY, YOU KNOW? AND, AND SO THAT WAS SOME OF THE GENESIS OF OUR THINKING WAS THAT LEY, NO MATTER WHETHER IT'S STATE ROADS OR CITY ROADS OR WHATEVER, IF PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO, THEY'RE GONNA ASK THE QUESTION, ANYBODY DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? AND IF WE SAY THE CITY FAULT OR THAT'S THIS FAULT, WELL THEN, THEN WE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IT IS THINKING, WELL WAIT A MINUTE, AT LEAST WE CAN, WE CAN BRING THE TURKEYS UP HERE AND SIT AROUND THE ROOM AND TALK ABOUT THIS.
AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IF THE NEED IS AS GREAT AS WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE, EVERYBODY KNOW IT AND THEY'LL ALSO RECOGNIZE THE LIABILITY AND WANT TO TRY TO WORK.
THIS COURT RECENTLY GOT THE BLAME FOR THE, THE CONDITION OF FM 13 86, 96 COUNTY ROAD, NO DOUBT, ROAD TOO COMES FROM MY HOUSE ON ROAD, COUNTY ROAD.
NOT LIKE THE ONE, BY THE WAY, THE BOND GOOD.
BUT I DO THINK IT'LL GET, IT'D BE A LOT BETTER IF YOU HAD EVERYBODY AT LEAST TALKING THAT
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TIED IN WITH THE SAME BOND ELECTION THAT THE COURTS BUILDING WAS TIED IN WITH, OR WAS THAT A DIFFERENT BOND? IT WAS, IT WAS THE COURT.THE COURT HOUSE FAILED AND RODE FAST AND THE LIBRARY PASSED.
YOU SHOULDN'T GO TO THE LIBRARY SLASH COURTHOUSE.
BUT, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THEN THE NEXT ONE, THE, UH, NEXT ONE, THE OLD WASN'T ANYTHING ON THE OH EIGHT WAS JUST THE ROAD, JUST MILLION.
NOT BIG, BUT THEY, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE, THEY JUST FOCUS ON IT.
THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE SETTING IN TRACK.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MUCH OF A COMMITTEE GOES OUT AND SAYS, WE CAN VOTE FOR THIS WHEN EVERYBODY'S JUST SITTING THERE WAITING TO MOVE.
BUT THE SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF THE BOND ELECTION FOR SOMETHING ON THE ROAD LIKE THAT WOULD BE, WOULD THAT NOT DEPEND ON THIS CONSORTIUM? IT DOES.
PEOPLE OVER THERE, YOU YEAH, THE, THE, THE PAPERS REPORT ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CONSORTIUM VIEW.
THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS, THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THIS PLAN.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS, THERE'S A RHYME AND REASON FOR THINGS UNFOLDING THE WAY THEY DO.
AND THEN, AND THEN EACH CITY THEN BECOMES AN AMBASSADOR BECAUSE THEY PASSED THE RESOLUTION.
THEIR CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE RESOLUTION SUPPORT THE BOND PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD
IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE THEY, THEY, THEY IN IT AND THE TREAT THE KEY TO IT, TO ME IS STILL WHAT THE AGENDA, IN OUR CASE IT WAS ROAD MAY THE SAME THING WITH YOU.
YOU KNOW, SOME PLACES IT MIGHT BE A PARKING RECREATION, OPEN SPACE PLAN, OR IT MIGHT BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MIGHT BE, BUT, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A NEED AND IT NEEDS, AND IF IT'S BEING ADDRESSED AND EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF PERSONALITIES, EVERYTHING ELSE KIND OF FALLS IN.
SO YOU KIND BITE
HOW MUCH DID IN YOUR BOUGHT FOR A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT DO TO YOUR TAX RATE? HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET.
WE ISSUED, UH, WE ISSUED THE FIRST PHASE OF 10 MILLION, UH, THIS YEAR.
AND OF COURSE THAT IS NOT, THAT TAX IS NOT NEXT YEAR.
SO KNOW, WE, WE DON'T KNOW MAY TAKE PART OF IT.
I KNOW WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS APPROVED, WE GOT PERMISSION TO, TO INCREASE PEOPLE TAXES 4 CENTS OR FOUR AND A HALF CENTS.
AND I WAS TRYING TO GET THE COURT LAST YEAR TO RAISE TAXES 4 CENTS BECAUSE THE DOORS THAT LIBRARY IS OPEN, YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET THAT MONEY AGAIN.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S FRESH ON PEOPLE'S MIND.
DON'T WANT THE LIBRARY, GET THE MONEY.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO THAT FOR JAIL.
YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR A COURTHOUSE.
YOU'RE GONNA BILL WITH, UH, TAX NOTES.
YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR THE INCREASED STAFF ACROSS THE ROAD.
BUT, BUT THEY CUT IN THE BILL, I TAKE 2 CENTS.
THEY HAD TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICE BASED ON GROWTH.
AND SO, UH, THE MINIMUM WE HAD THE PERMISSION TO GO TO FOR, BUT THROUGH GOOD MANAGEMENT ONLY HAD TO HAVE TWO ECONOMY OF BE, IT'D BE A WHOLE LOT EASIER NEXT THAN WE'LL PICK CONTENTIONS AND THE USER CONSULTANT, THE CONSULTANT WAS A SUCCESS OR DON'T KNOW YET.
YEAH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL, ALL OF THE ABOVE.
BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE, YOU'VE GOT, HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH WITH THE PROCESS AND YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR ME.
UM, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO CAN DO THAT IN OUR CASE ARE NOT THE ONES YOU NORMALLY SEE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SOMEONE WHO THINKS AND LOOKS A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN YOU.
AND THEY, THEY THINK THIS QUICK, THEY KNOW HOW TO TALK THE STARBUCKS LANGUAGE AND, UH, AND YOU PAY 'EM $10,000 A MONTH AND THINKING, GOSH, WHAT ARE YOU SPENDING THIS MONEY? BUT IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO, WHEN YOU'RE WORKING IN THAT ARENA AND YOU'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE MONEY AND YOU GOT SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS EVERYBODY CO EVERYBODY ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND EVERYBODY WITH THE RTC AND WHO THEY MARRIED AND WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND THEY CAN SIT THERE AND GIVE YOU THE REPORTS ON WHAT YOU MOST OF THE TIME AND ANYTHING ELSE? THANK
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YOU DAVID.YEAH, I'VE SEEN LISA A FEW TIMES YEAH.
IS THAT CLOSE TO WHAT KCC LEADERSHIP? THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, UH, THAT'D BE A GOOD STARTING POINT.
I, I, I'VE GIVEN SOME PRESENTATIONS TO HIM ABOUT ROADS I THINK THEY COULD HANDLE.
PROBABLY HAVE, WE'RE ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW AFTERNOON, K, TOMORROW.
OH, REALLY? GIVE THIS, THIS SIMILAR DISCUSSION.
WHEN, WHEN YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS SOUNDS FALL RIGHT INTO CASE LC AND COULD THEY GET THE CITY, EVERYTHING.
THE COUNTY, UH, SOME OF THE MAYOR SAID, WELL, THE COMMISSIONER COURT NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
SOME OF THE, UH, CITY MANAGERS SAID, WE DON'T WANT MAYORS INVOLVED THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING.
WE NEED TO PAY PROFESSIONALS
BUT MY THINK IS ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY'RE ANSWERABLE TO YEAH.
THE PUBLIC OR THE CITY MANAGER AND EDC DIRECTOR IS NOT EXACTLY ACCOUNTABLE.
BUT IT CAN'T BE FIRED BY PUBLIC.
LIKE, UH, LIKE GREG WAS SAYING THOUGH, THAT, THAT THE TDOT AND COBB LIKE TO HEAR FROM, FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO BECAUSE MR. HILL T DO, HE SAID IT DON'T GET LIKE
SO EVERYTHING BE SMOOTHER, A LOT MORE STUFF DONE.
SO I ATTENDED A COUPLE THEIR MEETINGS AND FOR NOT JUST THE COUNTY ONE FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY, COUNTY AND THE CITY'S OFFICE POLICY.
WELL, THAT PROCEDURE THEN, THEN YOU CAN GET SOME THINGS THAT JUDGE IN COL COUNTY SENT ME A PROCESS TO START WITH THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY THEIR POLICY, THEY'RE PROCEDURES THAT, THAT THAT'S THE CO POLICY.
THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S ONE, THAT'S WHAT THEY USED, WHICH IS THE ONE I USED TO DO.
WHAT I STARTED OFF WITH WAS THE EXACT SAME
WELL, IT WOULD BE, I, I WANT TO TRY THE COURT'S PERMISSION TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS ESTABLISHED.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK INFORMAL.
JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE THE MAN SAID, YOU AND I LIKE THE PART ABOUT NO RULES AND HE, AND ONE THING THEY SAID WERE SUCCESSFUL IS THAT EVERY TOWN HAD A SAY SO.
IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IF YOU WAS THE 50,000 POPULATION IN TOWN, OR YOU WAS THE 1000 POPULATION TOWN, YOU STILL HAD INPUT INTO THE PROCESS AND SEE WHEN THEY STARTED DIGGING OUT THESE PROJECTS, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GOT SOMETHING.
NOW YOU JUST DIDN'T DO PARTY, YOU DID PARTY AND SOMETHING INTENT MAY OR TOOL OR WHATEVER.
EVERYBODY, I THINK IT'S SOME WAY, WHATEVER COME TO ANY REAL CONSENSUS, RIGHT? WE DON'T NEED SPENDING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN TWO.
BUT I JUST THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR US TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BEFORE YOU START GETTING MONEY, GRABBING AT THE SET UP SENSE WHERE WE GOING AND MAYBE JERRY WON'T HAVE TO TEAR UP HIS NEXT MAP.
NEXT MONDAY TO, UH, CONSIDER APPOINTING A REPRESENTATIVE TO, UH, WORK ON A CONSORTIUM.
SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS COULD BE OF INTEREST TO THE, BUT I PROBABLY,
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IF YOU FOCUSED ON ONE THING, YOU'D BE BETTER OFF THAN OPPOSED TO FOCUSING ON, WELL, LET'S DO TRANSPORTATION AND LET'S DO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY PARK OR, UH, CONVENTION CENTER.THINGS SUCH AS THAT PROBABLY COULD BE TOO COMPLICATED.
I'M THINKING WAY, YOU GOTTA THINK WAY ON DOWN ROAD.
ALSO, THAT'D BE YOUNG BEFORE THESE PROJECT GET BUILT, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU STILL COME BACK TO BASICS TOO, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY INCREASED TAXES 4% ALREADY AND THEN 4 CENTS ALREADY AS THEY SPEND THE MONEY ON TAXES AND CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
UH, AND HERE WE ARE THIS YEAR CUTTING EVERYBODY 10% AND SOME 20% BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT INCREASE TAXES.
UH OH, HOW ABOUT THAT? BUT, BUT I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S MAKING THE PLAN WORK.
WE, WE'VE CHANGED SEVERAL THINGS IN THE LAST YEARS, DIDN'T WORK OUT.
UH, APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THAT GROUP OVER HERE.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, CHIEF RICHMAN, UH, WANTS TO DISCUSS TRANSFERRING THE LINE ITEM FOR THE PURCHASE OF NAS SERVER ALREADY.
WE'RE HAVING, UH, PURCHASED A MASS SERVER, WHICH A NETWORK NETWORK ATTACHED SERVER.
UH, AS PART OF THE, OUR NEW SOFTWARE, UH, WE HAVE INCAR VIDEOS AND IT AS PART OF THE HARDWARE PIECE THAT WE NEED TO PURCHASE IN ORDER TO STORE ALL OF OUR INCAR VIDEOS, UH, THAT WE'RE NEEDING VIA FOR EVIDENTIARY PURPOSES OR, UH, ANY KIND OF CIVIL LITIGATION.
SO IT'S A PLACE WHERE WE CAN STORE ALL OF OUR INCAR VIDEOS INSTEAD OF THE O VHS TAPES THAT'RE KIND, GETTING A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO PURCHASE TO, WE'RE NOT HAVING A BUDGET HERE IN FRONT OF US.
UH, NOW WHAT YOU, YOU GOT A COMMENT ON THAT? UH, I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 19.
THAT BEING, THAT WAS 7 21 19, UH, 19,000 7 21.
IS THIS JUST A BACKUP EQUIP? NO, IT'S THE ACTUAL SERVER THAT WEARING ALL THE VIDEO IMAGES AND I, I DID A SEARCH AND THERE'S ONE FOR 20,000 AND WE HAD ANOTHER COMPANY DE ALSO DO ONE.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT WHAT IT IS.
YOU KNOW, WE WENT TO DIGITAL IN OUR CAR, UH, CAMERA.
SO WE HAVE TO NOW STORE ALL THAT WE'RE WORKING STORING ON V HHA TAPE.
WE NOT STORE THAT DATA, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, IT'S GOING TO, UH, IMPACT, UH, THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
WE'LL TRY TO DO IT ON OUR, YOU KNOW, A INTEGRATED SERVER.
SO WE NEED A ON SERVER FOR THAT BECAUSE ALL THAT STUFF'S GOT TO BE WHERE WE CAN RETRIEVE IT AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RACIAL PROFILING AND, AND ALL THAT.
WELL, BEFORE WE WERE DOING THAT ON VHS TAPES, IT CAN'T STILL BE DONE ON SOME KIND OF, UH, DI UH, DIGITAL TAPE DI DIGITAL DVD OR SOMETHING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE SERVER THAT WE ARE, WE'RE THROWING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA THERE.
YEAH, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE CHARGING EVERYTHING WE DO OUT HERE.
NOW THEN, I MEAN FROM THE SERVER, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BENEFIT FROM THERE.
UH, IF YOU NEED TO PERMIT, YOU CAN CONFIRM FROM THAT, FROM THAT SOFTWARE FOR COURT PURPOSES OR WHATEVER ELSE.
WE CAN ACTUALLY RETRIEVE THAT, THAT DIGITAL VIDEO IMAGE.
MY QUESTION IS NOT SO MUCH TABLET, BUT WHAT FUND ARE WE TRANSFERRING TO AND FROM? I MEAN WHAT FROM GIS WHAT? YEAH, THE LINE ON 3,100.
THAT'S THE GIS, IT'S KIND OF A, UH, THE GIS MAPPING ACCOUNT.
OKAY, SO THERE'S NO TOTAL EFFECT ON THE, IS THIS LIKE A ONE TIME THING THEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR OR IS THAT ONE SERVER CAN THAT WE CONFIGURED IT,
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I MEAN, SPECKED OUT ENOUGH WITH THE FLEET OF ALL, ALL THE VEHICLES THAT ARE GONNA BE USING INCAR VIDEO, WE FIGURED OUT HOW MUCH ROOM EACH VIDEO WOULD, WOULD CONSUME OR WHICH, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH ROOM EACH VEHICLE WOULD CONSUME PER SHIFT.SO, AND AS FAR AS WE HAVE 90 DAY RETENTION ON OUR VIDEOS, UNLESS IT'S A CRIMINAL OFFENSE OR THERE'S AN ARREST MADE, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO ARCHIVE THAT TWO YEARS UP TO FIVE YEARS.
SO IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH, UH, TO DO THAT.
WE DON'T STORE THEM FOR PERPETUITY, YOU KNOW, TO GO OFF.
BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, PUSHING TREMEND AMOUNT OF DATA WHEN YOU'RE RECORDING EVERY TRANSACTION WE HAVE OUT THERE, WHICH WE HAVE TO DO UNDER THE RACIAL PROFILE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, BECAUSE SAY BEFORE WE DO IT ON THE VA AND NOW WE'RE DOING BASICALLY HOW IT IS JUST A LINE OUT TRANSFER.
HOW COME, WHY WOULD ONE BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ONE BE 20,000? STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.
THE OTHER GUY WAS WAY TOO EXPENSIVE.
RN SAYS THIS WILL DO IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WAS A DENTAL THAT WAS 200.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MY BEST CONCERN ABOUT BEING DIFFERENT IN THE PRICES.
MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOES WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
INSTEAD OF TRYING HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, GEORGE, AND WE ALSO, WE ALSO GET THE SOFTWARE VENDOR AND THEY ALSO SAID THAT SHE DID THE SAME THING.
IT'S NOT COSTING ME A MONEY MOVE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
UH, COL SAID SHE WAS HAD TIED UP AT THE, UH, CHILDREN'S SHELTER RIGHT NOW AND COULDN'T MAKE IT.
COMMISSIONER AT THE TABLE THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
UH, NEXT ONE DISCUSS IS SET APPROVE MANUAL CONTRACT BOARD LOAN FOR APPEAL AND ANTS THROUGH THE TON COUNTY SCHOOL BUSINESS OFFICIAL PURCHASING COOPERATIVE, JACK.
I APPROACHED, UH, THE COMAN SCHOOL DISTRICT BUNCH ON, UH, DURING THE CO-OP TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE, OF THE BUYING POWER ON FUEL AND LOWER OUR COSTS.
AND THEY, THEY ALLOWED US TO DO THAT.
UH, IT CAME TIME TO REDUCE, REDID THAT CONTRACT AND IT WAS BID OUT AGAIN IN BORDER ALONG THE LOW BID AND ACTUALLY, UH, POWER THE GROUP COST FROM ONE GALLON GALLON.
AND, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.
I, I READ THIS THING, I'M KIND OF INTERESTED THIS, THAT FUEL WITH ALCOHOL ADDITIVES ARE EXTENDERS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY ETHANOL IN THESE, UH, I MEAN IT'S A VIEW POINT.
I MEAN, IT'S GREAT IF IT IS, RIGHT, BUT IT IT, IT IS INTERESTING THAT THAT WAS STATE BECAUSE I THOUGHT MOST OF THE FUEL IN TEXAS WAS, HAD A ETHANOL.
I'M GLAD IT DON'T, BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY STATE THAT.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE, ON THE BID SHEET? UH, SO THE, THIS GASOLINE YES SIR.
THAT THE ONE'S A DOLLAR 92 AND ONE'S A DOLLAR 80.
NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE SAME.
WHAT WHAT THAT IS, IS, UH, AND THEY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
WE HAVE UNABLE TO ACCEPT A, UH, TRANSPORT LOAD.
THAT PRICE IS, UH, BASED ON THAT.
IF WE HAD 8,000 GALLON TANKS, THEN WE'D BE BOUND TO FUEL THAT, THAT 1 CENT OVER COST VERSUS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE GOT.
THAT THERE MAY BE A, ONE OF THE PLAYERS MAY HAVE LARGER TANKS.
SO IT'S JUST A QUALITY DISCOUNT OR WHATEVER ON THE SECOND.
NO, IT, IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT THEY, THEY CAN BRING A GALLON, THE TANKER VERSUS, VERSUS SMALL DELIVERY.
AND UH, YOU'LL LOOK MOST OF THAT'S BASED ON, ON THE FREIGHT CHARGES AND THAT TYPE OF, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
UH, NEXT ONE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROOF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING JOHN MOSTLY TO PREPARE
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FILE AND PROSECUTE NECESSARY CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS AND OTHER LEGAL PROCEEDINGS TO ACQUIRE FEE.SIMPLE TIME IN REGARDS TO PARCEL 14 OF THE F 34 86 THAT'S IN YOUR PRECINCT.
SECOND AND UH, RUNS OVER INTO COMMISSIONER CLARK.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY A MOTION CARRIES AS I RECALL.
SO THAT'S TWO FMS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THAT PURCHASE THE RIGHT OF WAY ON AND NOW IT'S UP TO THE STATE.
THE 5 98 OBJECT IS SCHEDULED TO START CONSTRUCTION.
BEEN LEFT APPROVED BY HIGHWAY.
IT STARTED SEPTEMBER 1ST, POSSIBLY WITH A FEW, UH, UTILITY RELOCATION, MAYBE THE 15TH.
ESTIMATED COST WAS 4.2 MILLION.
THE OTHER 1.4 MILLION STAYS WITHIN, THEY WERE TALKING EARLIER, HALF DIFFERENT BETWEEN, IT'S SUPPOSED TO STATE WHEN THEY CALL.
UH, COMMISSIONER ROUTE M EMBARK WANTS TO PUT AFER CABLE ON RIGHT OF WAY OF COUNTY ROAD ONE 18.
DO SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ER.
AND, UH, THEY ALSO WANT TO DO IT ON COUNTY ROAD 40 57 IN PRECINCT FOUR.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROBIN.
AND ALSO ON 40 60 IN PRECINCT QUARTER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY A A MOTION CARRIES ITEM THIS MORNING.
SIGNIFICANT LINE ITEM TRANSFERS, THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT INCREASED LEASE OF COPIERS, $8,000 REDUCTION OF INSURANCE COSTS AND THE DA'S OFFICE INCREASED TRAINING EDUCATION, $1,800 IN PRODUCTION AND CONTRACT LABOR, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND FREE SUPPLIES.
2000 AND UTILITIES 3,000 IN PRODUCTION TO EXTRA HELP.
THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER, Y'ALL JUST APPROVED.
AND SOME OF THESE IN HERE ARE PRESENTED DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU, THAN YOU'VE BEEN SEEING THEM.
UH, BECAUSE THE PURCHASING AGENT AND I ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, APPROVING AND ORDERING ITEMS. AND THEN Y'ALL TURN DOWN THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
UH, WE ONLY GET IN THAT SITUATION.
SO WHAT I HAVE RECOMMENDED, UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS A LINE ITEM TRANSFERS TO COMMUNICATIONS TWO FIVE AND TOOLS, EQUIPMENT 5,990.
THE COMMUNICATIONS REQUEST, UH, IS JUST TO COVER SOME ADDITIONAL PHONE COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN INCURRED EARLIER IN THE YEAR DUE TO AN AIR CARD REPLACEMENT.
SO THE TRUTH OF THE, UH, THE MONEY IS THERE TO KEEP PHONES ON FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
AND THEN THE $5,990, THERE'S SUPPORT BEHIND HERE.
UH, THAT'S TWO VEHICLE VIDEO SYSTEMS TO REPLACE BROKEN VHS UNITS IN BOTH OF THE INVESTIGATORS VEHICLES USED AT FIRE SCENE FOR VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING.
THE CURRENT UNITS THAT WERE, WERE GIVEN BY TERRELL POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE OFFICER LEADING NOW SO THAT THE SUPPORT IS HERE.
IF YOU WANNA DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING YOU MAY WANT THROUGH THIS BEFORE THE VOTE TRANSFER.
WHY DID WE VOTE ON THE SHERIFF? I MEAN, WHY DID, WHY DID THE SHERIFFS LET HIM TRANSFER ON AGENDA AND THINGS THAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? UH, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I WASN'T WHERE IT'S GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA.
I, I JUST, I ASSUME THEY JUST WANT SPEAK ON THAT.
EXPLAIN WHAT, WHY THEY WERE ASKING FOR IT.
THAT THAT CAME DIRECTLY WITH
SO, BUT AGAIN, THE CONCERN TO BE SURE THEY'VE GOT THE MONEY APPROVED BEFORE THEY GO PURCHASE IT.
ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE THE LINE OUT AND TRANSFER FROM THE SHERIFF.
UH, THEY INCREASED UNIFORMS, $3,000 AND EXCHANGE CARS 11,500 AND THEN THERE'S SUPPORT WOULD REQUEST IN HERE, UH,
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UNIFORMS WERE RAINCOATS AND TRAFFIC VESTS, WHICH HAVE TO BE REPLACED OCCASIONALLY AND, AND WOULD'VE PUT THAT LINE ITEM OVER THE BUDGET.AND THEN THE EXCHANGE CAR HAVE A REQUEST FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR 18,000 124 71, BUT HE ALREADY HAD 6,000 LEFT IN THE, IN THE BUDGET.
SO THE LINE ON THE TRANSFER IS FOR 11,000, NOT 18,000, BUT UH, THAT'S FOR A, UH, PURCHASE OF A FORD ESCAPE.
AND THE MONEY'S BEING TRANSFERRED FROM WHERE? MONEY'S BEING TRANSFERRED FROM MISCELLANEOUS, CORRECT.
THAT'S THE, UH, VEHICLE THAT WE HAD.
20,000 THOUSAND THOUSAND BACK IN.
AND THEN THE JAIL INCREASED HOUSEHOLD SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, 3000 IN PRODUCTION OF
GSA GOVERNMENT SERVICE AUTOMATION, 40,000 WITH PRODUCTION OF COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE.
11,000 SOFTWARE GROUP COSTS 29,000.
THIS IS TO KEEP THE, UH, UH, THE OLD DISPATCH SYSTEM AND THE NEW DISPATCH SYSTEM RUNNING PARALLEL FOR ANOTHER MONTHS OR SO.
AND IN PROBATE LCY, WE HAVE TO SWITCH BETWEEN ATTORNEY FEES.
ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE CERTIFYING GRANT FUNDS OF PUBLIC WORKS 3006 44 BUDGET.
I WANT TO REVIEW THAT PROB LATER OR YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.
I COULD SUBMIT THESE AS WHAT SHERIFF DID.
PROBLEM WITH THAT IS IT'S AN EMERGENCY TYPE SITUATION.
I DON'T WANNA DO UTILITIES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT WAY.
BUT IF IT'S EQUIVALENT PURCHASE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF Y'ALL WOULD PREFER, I COULD SUBMIT THAT EARLIER AND IF THEY HAVE TO WAIT ON, HAVE TO WAIT, WAS THAT BASED BASICALLY JUST BECAUSE OF SIZE OF IT? COST OF IT.
AND THE CATEGORY AND THE CATEGORY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL BUDGET X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR EQUIPMENT AND THEY USE THAT MUCH, BUT THEY'VE GOT SOME OVER HERE THAT THEY WANT TO USE FOR EQUIPMENT, THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
BUT YOU, Y'ALL PROBABLY NEED SOME LEAD TIME ON THAT IF YOU WANT.
YEAH, WE DO, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO HAVE THANK AND JUST GIVE US ALL THE LEAD TIME WE CAN.
BUT IN CASE EMERGENCY, I WOULD, I WOULD PROPOSE THIS, THIS PERIOD OF TIME FOR LINE ITEM TRANSFERS BE ROUTINE UTILITIES AND, AND OFFICE SUPPLIES AND WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA CONSIDER AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
NOT A SPECIFIC EXPENDITURE FOR AN ASSET OR A LARGE ITEM.
SO YOU CAN GIVE US ALL THE NINE NINE TRANSFER A WEEK BEFORE OR WHATEVER WE CAN LOOK AT.
THEN INSTEAD OF HAVING EACH ONE LISTED ON THE, WE CAN JUST SAY NINE ITEM TRANSFER.
WE COULD SAY KIND OF LIKE A CONSENT.
CONSENT CAN SEND INFORMATION OVER HERE.
LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK YOUR DISCRETION ON WHETHER YOU NEED TO SUBMIT IT OR NOT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD? WELL THAT'S TRUE AND IT'S, THAT MAKES SENSE.
DO YOU Y'ALL WANT TO UH, LIFT THE FEES? YES.
THIS BACK UP BEFORE WE VOTE ON THESE, I GUESS, UH, GO AHEAD AND START LOOKING AT HIS BILLS.
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YES, EXCEPT DON'T APPROVE.IS THAT FOR, I GUESS YOU SAW RAY, THAT THAT RHINO GLUE DIDN'T DO TOO WELL IN THAT MILL.
WE'RE GONNA TRY SOMETHING ELSE.
TIGHTEN BOTTOM SIDE, BUT IT LEFT THE
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NO PROBLEM.SIGN THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN VOTED.
I GUESS THIS 40 ALL CAME FROM, UH, COURT.
PRIMARILY THOSE YOU SAY BEFORE YOU HAD TO ORDER 17.
IT, THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT HERE NOW.
THIS UH, THIS QUARTER THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MATERIALS OR ANYTHING.
THIS MR. PORTER WHERE IT'S NOT MATERIALS.
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FOR SOME REASON COMMISSIONER DOESN'T DID JIM, HE DID CALL ME THE DAY WE USING TRUSTEE.HE SAID WE SOMEBODY SHERIFF PUTS ONE DEPUTY, ONE PRISON BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE SHERIFF USED WERE SOMEBODY, THERE'S SOME REWRITE,
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I GUESS, UH, BUFFET, WHAT THEY I'VE SAME TIME GET DRESSED CAR.THEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL YOU'RE HERE.
I DON'T, IT'S NOT EVEN THAT HAVING FAMILY THAT LIVES HERE.
OH MY THE DO THEY HAVE, I KNOW THEY HAVE LIKE LICENSE PLATE.
SO NOW FOR SIX SHOPPING, I DUNNO, IT'S KIND OF, WE FINISHED UP ONE WEEK, WE FINISHED UP, WE ROUNDED UP, WE FINISHED UP WHAT WE HAD.
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SO WHAT GET THAT DAMN CITY IS MAKING ME GO THROUGH BUILDING PLANNING AND ZONING INSPECTOR AND THEN IT'S GONNA COST ME $2,000 NINTH.AND SINCE THEN HAS HAD ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE WATER LEAK AND THEM A LETTER SAYING GIVE US SOME MONEY.
I JUST, IT'S JUST THAT WHY THE ONE I GOT THE NUMBERS FROM JACK.
JACK SENT ME THE UH, JACK SAID THE DOLLAR A MONTHLY AND I HAD, I HAVEN'T DECIDED I WANT TO GO 36 OR 48 OR 16 OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S A BALLOON THOUGH, RIGHT? YOU TURN THAT IN? I, I PAY OR MAYBE OPTION, WHATEVER.
I MAY NOT HAVE THE OPTION BUT
CHARGE MONEY NEVER HAD THAT ARE PROBABLY THE ONLY THING MEANT MONEY.
I DIDN'T HOW THERE'S MUCH OF A RESALE I 20.
EMAIL EARLY AND WE CAN, IT CAN BE CHANGED AFTER THAT.
YOU HAVEN'T FILED, WE HAVE TO CHANGE LIKE ANY CASH BALANCES BE MORE THAN I
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WHAT'S REQUIRED.AN EJ FOR FIVE ACRES OR LESS IN AN ETJ YOU CAN, YEAH.
SEE EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY I'VE GOT PRECINCT TWO, SOMEBODY'S ET TWO JUST ABOUT.
WHERE'D THAT, WHERE'D THAT COME FROM? HAS THAT BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME? YEAH, TWO 12 BEFORE
HEY, BILLS MR. DOER, MR. JACKSON LAW LI GONNA BE HERE.
WOULD WE LIKE TO VOTE ON THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS? OH YES.
TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS MADE BY COMMISSIONER, ER SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
UH, REPRESENTATIVE SLING HERE AT 3 4 15 AND UH, SEE Y'ALL NEXT MONDAY.
WHERE DOES IT MEAN? HOW COME IT'S NOT UP HERE? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET NOTIFIED? USE? IS THAT WHERE IT IS? YES.
DO YOU? I GET IN DECEMBER MY, I'VE ALWAYS PAID MYS, BUT THEY STILL THEY STILL KICK ME OUT.
THEY STILL YOU OUT STILL KICK ME OUT.
OH, WELL THAT'S ANOTHER STORY WHICH MAY COME TO I'M SICK AND TURN I'M GONNA START WRITING SOMETHING.
I GUESS THAT'S IT UNTIL, UH, NEXT MONDAY I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
DID I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? WELL, NO.
APPRECIATE ALL WE'RE OUTTA HERE.
YOU STILL WITH YOUR RECORDER?
YOU STILL WITH THE RECORDER? IS IT CHARGING NOW? NO, I'M RECORDING.
WELL ACTUALLY WHAT I'M DOING IS I COURT OVER THE TAPE COMMISSIONER COURT TAPE.
WE'VE GOT BOXES OF THESE THINGS I'VE BEEN, YEAH.
AND WHILE THESE ARE BACK IN 2006 AND THEY DECIDED THAT I COULD JUST RECORD OVER DON'T HAVE TO ONE.
AND WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M RECORDING ON THEM.
AND THEN YOU USING THEM FOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
I, SO WELL, AS LONG AS YOU GOT 'EM ON CD.
I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE COPIES OF ON CDS NOW TOO, RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO DO
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IT ANYMORE.SO INSTEAD OF, BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPENSIVE I COULD PAUSE IT.
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MIKE, I JUST SIT THERE.WHY YOU WRONG? YOU KNOW, THIRD TIME I WANT SAY SOMETHING ELSE LIKE WHEN PROBATION, JUVENILE PROBATION COMES IN AND I WANNA SAY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, LIKE DO YOU OTHER COURTS YEAR IT'S CASES.
IT'S JUST LIKE YOU MAKE DOLLAR, YOU DON'T,
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TO START.