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WE THINK THEY, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER TOGETHER LIKE THIS TODAY, TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY AND ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US THE WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE THOSE CORRECT DECISIONS.
WE THINK THEY, FOR THE MANY BLESSING TH GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, PLEASE BE WITH GLEN WR AND HIS FAMILY AS MOURN THE LOSS OF HIS WIFE.
UM, LOOK DOWN UPON OUR SOLDIERS WITH FAVOR AND BRING THEM ALONG AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AS THEY PUT THEMSELVES AWAY.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
HANDS ONE NATION OF GOD AND NEVER BE A JUSTICE FOR ALL.
Y'ALL TO HAVE BEEN COPY THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
ANY ADDITIONS ARE CORRECTIONS.
IF THERE ARE NONE PRESENTED, MADE.
IF I HAD A PEN, I WOULD SIGN ALL, SAY AYE.
YOU JUST LIKE, WHAT DID HE DO THAT REMEMBER? OH, OKAY.
I HAVE NOTHING IN REACHING CORRESPONDENCE.
SO LET'S LOOK AT THE, UH, THE BID, UH, 10 DASH ONE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR ROAD MATERIAL.
I THINK WE'VE OPENED THE BID ON THAT.
AND APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING THAT PAPERWORK SOONER.
WE, WE WERE WORKING ON THAT LATE LAST WEEK.
SO, UH, WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS INDIVIDUALLY OR WE CAN AWARD IT LIKE LAST TIME.
UH, IT'S PRETTY BASICALLY AWARDED TO THE LOW BIDDER IN EACH CATEGORY, EACH CATEGORY, UH, PER LOCATION.
WE ALSO HAVE SECONDARY VENDORS FOR, UH, GO TO OTHER AREAS.
IF YOU VENDOR IS OUT OF THE MATERIAL, WE ALTERNATE BID AS WELL.
THAT'S THE SUMMATION ON THIS CALCULATION.
THAT ONLY QUESTION WE'LL GET DETERMINATION WHERE THE PICK PLACE WAS FOR CITY GETTING.
I CALLED AND THEY DO NOT HAVE THERE ANYMORE.
WE AWARD ING MADE RECOMMENDATIONS, SECOND.
MOTION MADE, AND SECOND TO AWARD THE BIDS AS PER OF THE PURCHASING AGENT.
RECOMMENDATIONS BID MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY DISCUSSION? JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO SAY IF ANYONE IN THE WOULD LIKE A COPY OF THIS OR OBJECTION, UH, FOR MAKE SURE WE GET THE CLARITY SAFETY.
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WE MIGHT WANNA GO WITH AN AND I'M GONNA DO A RECAP FOR LAURA AND I'LL GIVE ONE THANK THAT.THAT'S WHAT WE NEED FOR THE NEXT.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER RE SENDING NOVEMBER 16TH, 2009, AWARD TWO, PRECINCT FOUR THROUGH THE STATE TEXAS TX MAS CONTRACT.
UH, THE VENDOR THAT VISITED WITH, UH, UH, MR. NER MYSELF, UH, PRESENTED ME WITH A, UH, A CONTRACT ITEM WHERE HE WAS AWARDED THROUGH TMA A CONTRACT TO SELL TRUCKS.
UH, I LOOKED UP ON, ON THE STATE WEBSITE, WEBSITE.
THERE INDEED WAS A CONTRACT NUMBER.
WHEN WE PREPARED DO THE PO I FOUND THAT, THAT THERE WAS NOTHING MENTIONED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WERE FILED.
BUY, UH, WELL, I CALLED THE STATE OF TEXAS TO CONFIRM DOES THIS VENDOR HAVE, HAVE THAT ITEM ON, ON STATE CONTRACT.
UH, THEY BASICALLY TOLD ME THAT THE VENDOR IS AWARE OF WHAT'S ON HIS CONTRACT.
I CALLED THE VENDOR AND, UH, HE, HE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS, HE HAD THE ABILITY TO SELL ANYTHING THAT HE WANTED.
IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE LISTED ON THE STATE'S WEBSITE.
AND WHEN I CONTACTED THE STATE, THERE AGAIN, HE TOLD ME THAT, UH, HE HAS, THAT THE VENDOR KNOWS HIS CONTRACT AND CONTACT I MADE ATTEMPT TO THE STATE AND ALSO PHONE CALLS TO THE STATE AND PERSONALLY CHARGE IT WITH A T MASS CONTRACT FOR A YES OR NO ANSWER.
AND THEY, THEY WILL NOT RESPOND.
SO I HAVE NO REASON, I DUNNO WHY THAT IS, OTHER THAN HE HAD DOESN'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
I GUESS THEY WOULD NOT GIMME A YES OR NO ANSWER.
THE COMPTROLLER, AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE ON THE TEX ASSOCIATION COUNTY WEBSITE.
THE COMPTROLLER HAS CANCELED 300 TEX MASS CONTRACTS.
UH, AND I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THESE CONTRACTS.
SO I TOLD JACK HE'S NOT COMFORTABLE.
LET'S JUST SUR IT AND WE'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE IDEA WHAT, WHAT THAT TEXT MESSAGE IS.
UH, PROBABLY UP TILL ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, ALL, ALL THE ENTITIES WERE BUYING OFF THE FEDERAL GSA CONTRACT.
AND THEN A OPINION CAME OUT FROM THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE SAYING THE, AND NOT SATISFY PROCUREMENT LAWS.
SO THEN THE STATE SAID, OKAY, WE'LL TAKE THESE CONTRACTS AND WE'LL MIRROR THOSE AND CALL A TMA.
I'LL THAT THIS, THIS ARTICLE ALSO MENTIONED THE GSA CONTRACT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT FORWARD, I DID NOT RECEIVE THAT.
I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, UH, NOT MAKE OUT WORK.
I NEVER ISSUED THE FIRST ORDER.
WE HAVEN TO DO ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THE COURT COMMISSIONER.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL SECOND IT.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, NEXT DISCUSS CONSIDERING TO AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE 20 FOR TAX NUMBER ONE.
JUDGE, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? GOOD.
BRIAN BROOKS, ARE YOU OVER IN FRONT ME THIS MORNING? UH, LITTLE AND A LITTLE FROGGY TOO.
SO YOU WANNA TURN THAT MIC UP? UH, THERE YOU GO.
UH, AGAIN, COUNTY, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE, UH, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST, UH, LAST WEEK.
UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, OF SOLIDIFYING OUR, OUR TIF, UH, THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
AND, UH, DONE A, A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT, UH, FOR YOU IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT ACTUALLY SOLIDIFIES MORE OF THE, UH, COUNTY PARTICIPATION IN THIS.
UH, WE FOLLOWED, UH, COUNTY'S GUIDANCE THAT YOU GAVE US LAST WEEK, WHICH IS TO FOLLOW THE TERRELL MODEL, UH, AND IN FORM FITTING THAT TO, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR.
AND WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, ADOPTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, UH, YOU WORKED ON THAT AND JOHN, YOU, YOU WORKED WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK ON THAT? I HAVE.
JC WERE YOU LOOKING ON THAT ALSO? THAT I, I I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UH, I HAD A COUPLE CONCERNS AND I HAD SPOKEN WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK AND I THINK WE MIGHT BE BEST SERVED BY, UH, DELAYING IT.
AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU BRIEFLY, UH, IT APPEARS THERE'S CONFLICT AND HOW MANY FOLKS ARE APPOINTED.
THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT ALLOWS TWO PEOPLE TO BE APPOINTED BY THE COUNTY TO THE TIP BOARD AND THE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY PASSED THAT'S ATTACHED ALLOWS ONE PERSON TO BE APPOINTED BY THE COUNTY.
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AND IF THAT'S INTENTIONAL AND IF THE CITY HAS CHANGED ITS MIND, THEN UH, I GUESS WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATION OF THAT.THEN WE HAD A CONCERN, AND, UH, BRIAN MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS IF SOME OF THE NUMBERS, UH, ING UP AT 64 MILLION ON, UH, PAGE FOUR AND THE 64 MILLION AT 6 46 TRACKS OF THE TIP FROM TERRELL.
BUT IT, IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, THAT NUMBER IS, IS, IS TERRELL'S NUMBER AND IT MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT FOR PURPOSES OF THIS TIP.
SO WE WANNA SORT THROUGH THAT.
DO, DO THE NUMBERS MATCH UP, UM, APPROPRIATELY SO WE HAVE A, CAN I ADDRESS WHAT, COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT? SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, ON THE POSITIONS I THINK I DID, UH, THAT WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN, UH, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DRAFTING ORDINANCES, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, UH, WHO ACTUALLY CALLED CHRIS TIFF LEGISLATION, UH, ADOPTED A, UH, AN ORDINANCE FOR CITY 40, WHICH CALLED FOR A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD.
UH, AND SOMEHOW BETWEEN THE NEGOTIATION WITH COUNTY TARRELL, UH, TOOK PLACE, WE THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE MEMBER.
SO WE PUT A LIMIT FOR AN ORDINANCE.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS AT, UH, AT COMMISSIONER EXCUSE OUR, UH, COUNCIL MEETING.
COUNCIL IS FULLY AWARE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT DESIRE TO PUT TWO MEMBERS ON THERE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE GONNA BE APPOINTED TOMORROW.
UH, OUR, WE'LL HOPEFULLY APPOINT TOMORROW OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
SO WE'VE LEFT TWO SPACES FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT TO, TO OUR, FOR COUNTY TO PLACE TWO MEMBERS.
UH, WE WILL PROBABLY, WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THAT ORDINANCE TO, TO DO, JUST TO SIGNIFY THAT THERE ARE TWO COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES INSTEAD OF ONE, WHICH WE'RE WILLING TO DO.
UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHAT WE TALKED TO OUR CITY ATTORNEYS ALREADY DRAFTING OUR LANGUAGE TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY ON THE, THE JANUARY, THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY FOR THAT CLEANUP.
AS FAR AS THE 64 MILLION, UH, YEAH, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU CHANGE THAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU CHANGE.
UH, AGAIN, WE WERE, WE WERE
AND, UH, STAYING WITH A LITTLE BIT TOO.
WELL, 'CAUSE WE PUT A NUMBER IN, IT'S THEIR NUMBER, NOT OURS.
OUR NUMBER WOULD PROBABLY MORE REFLECT.
IF YOU GO TO THE LAST PAGE OF YOUR, UH, YOUR PACKET, UH, THE, THE FINANCE PLAN.
IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE, OF THE THIRD COLUMN, WHICH IS THE 50% COUNTY PARTICIPATION, YOU'LL SEE 49 MILLION.
THAT IS MORE REFLECTED I THINK, OF WHAT THAT CAP SHOULD BE.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO REFLECT THAT INTO THE DOCUMENT ITSELF, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU PROBABLY CHANGE THAT, UH, IN THE ENVELOPE AGREEMENT.
THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION AS TO WHY.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL, UH, PROJECTED REVENUES 195 MILLION, WHY ARE WE, WHY IS 195 MILLION IN OUR PROJECT PLAN ONLY CALLS OUT FOR $50 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS? WELL, ACTUALLY, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FINANCE PLAN, YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, COLUMNS, UH, SEE, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
THOSE ARE ALL RELATED TO BOND ISSUANCES.
UH, IF YOU ADD UP ALL THOSE BOND ISSUANCES, YOU GET ABOUT $54 MILLION.
UM, WHAT, WHAT I'LL CALL CONTINGENCY BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, TO HELP COVER ANY KIND OF OVERAGE WE HAVE BETWEEN NOW AND 2020.
UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S THAT ALL FLEX TOGETHER INTO THE, UM, THE TOTAL PROJECT, UH, PROJECT PLAN.
WHICH ONE IS THE BOTTOMS? UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, I'M SORRY, LET ME KIND OF, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO SHOW YOU GUYS HERE, RIGHT UP HERE.
ALL, ALL OF THESE ARE, EACH OF THOSE ARE BOND ISSUES AND THEN THE DEBT SERVICE RELATED TO THOSE ALL THE WAY OUT.
THE SECOND NUMBER IS THE ACTUAL BOND ISSUE.
THAT COMES TO 50 SOME ODD MILLION.
WELL, HOW DO YOU, UH, IF YOU WANT TO NEED $54 MILLION IN, UH, BONDS, THE QUESTION IS TOO, WHY DO WE NEED $195 MILLION IN REVENUE? UH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO PAY OFF YOUR, YOUR $4 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS, THE OVER 30 YEAR PERIOD.
SO WE, WE ACTUALLY ONLY HAD THIS $50 MILLION PROJECT PLUS A LITTLE LEEWAY IN THERE IS THE ONE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
OF COURSE WE HOPE THESE NUMBERS ARE CONSERVATIVE, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BETTER.
WE HOPE TO TAKE OFF CONSIDERABLY.
UH, OBVIOUSLY I THINK WHAT, WHAT THE INTENT WAS AND WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS WAS A, WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A FAIRLY LARGE RETAIL CENTER, THE UC AREA.
UH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA THROW OFF HOPEFULLY MORE THAN WHAT THIS IS PROJECTING OUT.
BUT WE'LL AGAIN, TRY AND STAY CONSERVATIVE, STAY WITHIN WHAT IS REQUIRED.
IF WE ACTUALLY TAKE THIS TO THE BOND MARKET, THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT YOU, WE WOULD SHOW,
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UH, IN THE, UH, ANY KIND OF BOND LETTING THAT WE, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE NEXT FEW YEARS.SO, SO THE QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU JUST FEW MINUTES AGO, WAS IT THAT, THAT YOU ANSWERED THAT BY, BY SAYING THAT WE DO HAVE JUST A $50 MILLION PROJECT PLAN, AND THAT'S NOT, THAT IS THE ONLY PROJECT THAT'S PLANNED FOR THIS ION THAT IS CORRECT.
IF, IF WE CHANGE THIS AND LET'S, LET'S SAY WE DON'T NEED THAT AND WE WANT TO AMEND IT, OR WE HAVE TO SOMEHOW COME BACK AND, AND RELOOK THAT PROJECT PLAN, MAYBE THESE WATER SUIT, UH, OBVIOUSLY WATER SUIT IS NOT IN THERE AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD PROBABLY THEN, WELL ACTUALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE TIP BOARD WOULD THEN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
WE WOULD GO TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO PROVE THAT CHANGE INTO THE PROJECT PLAN.
SO YOUR TIP BOARD IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT, THAT MAKES THAT RECOMMENDATION BACK TO.
SO YOU'RE, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT YOU WERE GONNA ADD TO THE PROJECT PLAN THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA SEND.
I DON'T DID YOU GET A COPY OF THIS? UH, 30 SECONDS AGO
I FORGOT ABOUT SENDING YOU THANK YOU.
I, BECAUSE SHE MADE SURE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE GOT A COPY OF IT AND WE DID.
SO THE BASE YEAR FOR THIS TIP IS JANUARY 1ST, 2017.
EIGHTH WHEN IT, WHEN IT WAS CREATED.
THE BASE YEAR IS THE TAX APPRAISALS AT JANUARY 1ST, 2008.
DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? HONOR? I I DID.
IIII THINK THAT THE ISSUES CAN BE ADDRESSED, BUT I I I THINK THAT THIS CERTAINLY JUSTIFIES JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE EXAMINATION AND IF IT'S RESET ON THE AGENDA FOR THE, UH, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH I GUESS WOULD BE TWO WEEKS.
AND I'M SORRY TO ASK BRIAN TO COME BACK AGAIN, BUT THIS, THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
I DON'T WANNA BE, YOU KNOW, OFF BY 15 MILLION.
JOHN, DO YOU A FAVOR, I'LL SEND SOMEBODY THAT'S BETTER LOOKING TO ME
I, I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND, AND MAKE THAT MOTION.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE, WITH THE MEETING WHAT'S GOING ON.
I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE THE DETAILS.
I JUST HAVE ONE MISUNDERSTANDING HERE.
UH, ON PAGE FOUR, WHY ARE WE STARTING THIS EARLY YEARS JANUARY ONE, EIGHT? ARE WE GONNA BE OBLIGATED FOR THE TAX FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR? HELP ME OUT SOMEWHERE THERE.
THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN TAXABLE VALUE AT JANUARY 1ST, 2009.
SO IT'S, SO IT MOVED TO MOVE POINT TO ME.
YEAH, ACTUALLY PROBABLY OUR BEST, BEST SERVED INTEREST TO MOVE IT UP 40 YEAR, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE INTENT WAS BACK THE RESOLUTION.
SO WE WANTED MORE FOLLOW RESOLUTION.
YOU SAID UP IN NEAR THAT, THAT THE CITY CREATES THE, IS BECAUSE THAT ESTABLISHES THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY AT THAT TIME.
UH, AND THEN IN THE INCREMENT THAT COMES INTO THIS YARDS BOUGHT BEFORE IT, BUT SINCE, SINCE THERE WAS NO, SINCE THERE'S NO INCREASE IN IT.
IT'S NOT, IT'S STILL STILL AGRICULTURAL LAND IN THIS PARTICULAR, IN THIS CASE IT COULD BE DIFFERENT IN A LOT OF OTHER CASES.
BUT THE PARTICULAR CASE IS STILL VALUE, VALUE USE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE DELAY.
JUST SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T ASK, BUT JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S CLARIFICATION.
UH, THE TIFF LANGUAGE TYPICALLY SAYS 30 YEARS.
THAT'S THE MAXIMUM NEED FOR, UNLESS YOU'VE GOT OUTSTANDING BONDS ISSUANCES.
BUT NONE OF THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT PRIOR, UH, RECONCILIATION WITH COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COUNSEL.
SO IF WE DO SOMETHING OUT THE ORDER, SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S IN HERE, YOU'RE GONNA KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE TO DOCUMENT, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT UNTIL WE APPROVE IT.
AND WHICH IS ALSO WHY YOU PUT A A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THERE, $50 MILLION AMOUNT IN THERE BECAUSE THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW.
WE COULD IN THEORY, OPTIMISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR 10 YEARS WE'VE BE OUT OF IT, RIGHT? WE, WE WOULD'VE CREATED OUR $50 MILLION OF INCOME MORTGAGE PRODUCT DEBT AND SO THAT IT WOULD GO AWAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
YOU CAN COLLAPSE PRETTY MUCH AT ANY TIME AS LONG AS YOU HAVE ANY OUTSTANDING OBLIGATIONS, ALL PARTIES AND THE COURT WOULD'VE TO APPROVE THE INCREASED OVER THE $50 MILLION, 49 MILLION, WHATEVER IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED OUT THERE RIGHT AWAY AND WE DID COLLECT OUR 49 MILLION WORTH OF TAXES THAT WE, OR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXES, WE'D GET 50% BACK INTO TIFF WHENEVER
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THAT TIMEFRAME HITS.IT'S NOT 30 YEARS MAXIMUM 30 YEARS MAX.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLE, SAY AYE.
WHAT I DIDN'T REMIND BRIAN, BUT I'M SURE HE REMEMBERS TO SHOOT YOU A OKAY, NOW WE WANT DISCUSS ABOUT ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT OR A PROJECT WITH THE TOWN OF FOR ROAD REPAIR.
ENTERED, WE'VE GOT AN INTER PERMIT TO, UH, TO DO ROAD REPAIRS FOR THE CITY OF SOUTH THERE.
THIS IS JUST A PROJECT FOR $3,000 THAT THE CITY WILL PAY BACK FOR PATCHING POTHOLE ON A CERTAIN ROAD, I BELIEVE.
BUT Y'ALL, COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER ROW WILL SECOND IT.
UH, NEXT ONE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, APPRO A BID FOR RESALE OF TAX.
I DESCRIBED AS THREE A BLOCK, 21 MATERIAL, ORIGINAL FLAT, UH, PRECINCT THREE.
UH, JUDGE ON THIS, UH, GENTLEMAN BID.
SO I GUESS I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION THE PLAN AND IT BACK UP THEN.
SO THE MOTION WE NEED THIS MORNING IS TO, UH, DECLINE, UH, THE BID THAT WAS OFFERED ON THAT PROPERTY AND TO, UH, PUT IT BACK OUT FOR MOTION.
NEXT WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, ENTERING INTO ANTELOPE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND LENDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF TERRO AND COMAN COUNTY.
UH, JUDGE, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE TABLE FOR JOHN TO LOOK AT.
JOHN HAD A COUPLE CHANGES OF TIME, TWO YEARS TO ONE YEAR ONCE WE DISCUSSED.
WE DO TWO YEARS, DO ONE YEAR AT A TIME.
AND UM, I THINK THE OTHER WOULD BE FIRST PAGE NUMBER TWO.
AND I THINK HE CHANGED WE, IF WE EQUIPMENT THE 48 HOURS THAT COST, CAN WE LOAN OUR EQUIPMENT CITY FOR NO COST? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WELL, YEAH, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT AND PUSH TO LOCAL AGREEMENT, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT IS JUST ON, ON VERY SHORT TERM BASIS, LIKE A MATTER, THEN HE CAN DETERMINE WHAT THE REASONABLE COST.
IS IT RECIPROC OF JESSE, COULD YOU BORROW THEIR EQUIPMENT ON THE SAME KIND OF BASIS TO, AND AND THEY REALLY, THEY NEVER TOO, THEY NEVER
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SEE THE ONE THING THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN BORROWING THE EQUIPMENT IS LIABILITY.UH,
I MEAN, SAY YOU CAN DO IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, THEY DON'T HAVE OPERATORS QUITE ACTUALLY USE IT.
QUESTION GOES BACK TO MR. UH, WE MAY HAVE HAD THIS AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU THINKING THAT WE THIS WAS IN EFFECT BEFORE OR IS THIS THE FIRST TIME? WELL, THIS, I'VE TRIED TO GET THIS IN, IN AGREEMENT EVER SINCE I CAME IN THE OFFICE IN THE, BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO THIS NOT ONLY THE LIABILITY, BUT CAN WE ACTUALLY FOR, FOR VALUE, I MEAN FOR NO VALUE CAN WE ACTUALLY RENT IN THAT? OF COURSE, I GUESS THE VALUE HERE IS THAT CITY CAN DO IT FOR US.
BUT YOU SEE ANYTHING, EQUIPMENT, MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE IT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTIONAL CASE AND PROBABLY WOULD BE ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.
AND, AND SO ON AN ONGOING BASIS OR AS A BUSINESS, WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS BILL.
THE COMMISSIONER WOULD ARRANGE FOR THAT, BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY IN ADVANCE.
THAT'S ONE THAT'S KEPT AT 48 HOURS.
THE STATUTE ALREADY ALLOWS US TO DO IT ON EMERGENCY BASIS.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
THE EMERGENCY BASIS STATUTE ALLOWS US TO DO EMERGENCY WITHOUT SECOND AGREEMENT.
SO REALLY YOU SAYING WE'RE GONNA NEED THE 48 HOURS ANYWAY? IF, IF THIS WELL, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GENERAL, I'D LEAVE IT IN THERE.
BUT, UH, WHETHER IT'S NECESSARY OR NOT, LIKE JOHN AND JIM SAID, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER, THAT UH, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT AUTHORITY ON EMERGENCY SITUATION, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JOHN, DO YOU SEE ANYTHING ELSE WRONG? NO.
COMMISSIONER IS, IS IT YOUR CONCERN OF LETTING THEM USE IT AT ALL FOR ANY PURPOSE? MY CONCERN OF 7 9 1 IS TIME AND MATERIAL.
WHEN I DO WORK FOR A CITY, I BUILD TIME AND MATERIAL AND I INCLUDE THE COST OF THE MOTIVATOR OR WHATEVER IN THAT TIME AND MATERIAL, BE IT.
THE SECOND FOLLOW ON FROM AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS THE, LIKE RAY, RAY JUST HAD HERE A, WHAT YOU CALL IT? PROJECT.
THIS FOLLOWS THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
UH, AND ON EMERGENCY BASIS WE CAN DO IT, BUT AS A MATTER OF, UH, AGREEMENT, I THINK WE NEED CHARGING FOR YOU.
TELL ME YOU'RE WELL, I I DON'T SEE IT AS, AS BEING SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING AT PROJECTS.
I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, BUT ON, ON PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE MORE, UM, PLANNED.
YOU HAVE A WRITTEN DOCUMENT, YOU'D HAVE THAT EXCHANGE.
AND IN MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MY DISCUSSIONS WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON WAS THAT THIS WAS FOR THE INSTANCES WHERE THEY NEEDED SOMETHING FOR AN HOUR PER TWO HOURS OR THEY WERE SHORT THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT JUST DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO WAIT TWO WEEKS OR PARK THERE TIME RUN THE CITY COUNTY.
I HAD ONE KIND OF LIKE THIS WITH THE CITY OF KEMP.
UH, BECAUSE AT ONE TIME THEY HAD MOTOR GREATER OPERATOR AND THEY HAD A DRIVER OF THE CDO.
AND THAT MAY RESTRICT CHERYL FROM DOING ANYTHING.
BUT HAS COMMISSIONER JACKSON SAID HE'S GOT THE RIGHT TO SAY UP.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL MAKE A MOTION.
ON THE UH, TWO ON MARY ONCE SAYS, USED FOR A PERIOD OF MORE THAN 48 HOURS AT ONE TIME, A LOT OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS, IS RATED BY THE HOUR, NOT BY DAYLIGHT.
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IS THE 48 HOURS, UH, 24 HOURS IN A DAY? OR WAS THAT 48 HOURS OF EQUIPMENT TIME? IT IT WAS, IT WAS.NO, IT'S NOT 48 HOURS OF EQUIPMENT TIME.
IT'S LIKE THEY TAKE IT OUT ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
I IS THAT WHY IS THAT WHY THAT READ WRITTEN? I THINK IT'S, YEAH, BECAUSE IT SAYS AT ONE TIME, YEAH, I THINK IT COVERS, I DON'T THINK IT'S, UH, NO MORE BE CHARGE ON THE, THE REGULAR RATE THAT, UH, JIM COMMISSIONER YOU MAY LOSE.
I I THOUGHT WE WERE ALREADY THE SECOND.
AS LONG AS JOHN SAYS YOU, I THINK IT'S A GOOD DEAL.
I JUST MAKE SURE MY CONCERN AND COMM COMMISSIONER AND I WOULD THINK IT BE AN ISSUE TO PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF AND THAT AND THAT IF HE'S GETTING A REQUEST EVERY WEEK DRIVEN, THEN HE'LL SEND DIFFERENT THE OTHER CITY ABOUT ROAD MAINTENANCE.
DOES THAT NOT COVER THIS? WELL THE DIFFERENCE IS IS THAT THE OTHER, THE OTHER, WE DON'T ACTUALLY LOAN THE EQUIPMENT TO THE CITY.
AND HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY LOANING THE EQUIPMENT TO THE CITY.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE I GOT RETURN ATTORNEY OPPORTUNITY TO BAR.
IN FACT IT BROKE BEFORE WE GOT IT OUTTA GOVERNOR.
UM, YOU KNOW WE VOTED, UH, EARLY LAST YEAR TO BRING DONNA ON BOARD TO DO THE UH, UH, CENSUS, REPRESENT THE COUNTY AND MAKE SURE THEIR CENSUS IS DONE AND DONE PROPERLY, MAKING THE MEETINGS AND UH, UH, JOHNNY FELT LIKE THAT UH, WE SHOULD HAVE A LETTER OF AGREEMENT AND WE ASKED JOHN TO THROW US ONE UP.
AND UH, SO WE'RE HERE TO APPROVE THAT LETTER OF AGREEMENT WITH DONNA SPRAGUE, UH, TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY ON THE TWO 10 CENSUS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
DO WE HAVE LINE ITEMS THIS MORNING? WE HAVE NO LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
UH, NONE RESPECT COUNTY MONEY.
SO IT'S REALLY MINISTERIAL DUTY IN ADULT PROBATION.
WE'RE CERTIFY ADDITIONAL 20 2007 56 DIVERSION PROGRAM AND BUDGETING FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND THE CORRECTIONS PORTION OF PROBATION.
AN ADDITIONAL GRANT FROM THE STATE IS 1007 SIX FIVE.
BUDGETING THAT FOR DIVERSION PROGRAM OFFICER COSTS AND THEN THE REGIONAL, UH, JUVENILE PROBATION GRANT IN THE STATE.
THE STATE MADE A THREE ADJUSTMENT.
SO WE NEED TO ALSO, Y'ALL HEARD THE REQUEST MOTION
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RIGHT HERE? I A COUPLE OTHER THAN THAT, IF YOU WANT TAKE THIS, I NEED EDUCATION.THIS UH, WE'RE GONNA UH, BASS HALL TONIGHT.
SEE MICHAEL MARTIN MURPHY? YEAH.
AND WE NEED TO LEAVE ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK.
IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD DO MY READING B? YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE IF NOT WE CAN CALL HIM AND TELL.
AGAIN, THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THING D CAN'T GET.
WELL I EVERYBODY
I BE AT, BUT HE DID WHEN HE WAS INDUCTED THE, I TOLD YOU I WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY EYES.
IS IT REALLY THERE OR NO? IT MAY BE CONTAGIOUS.
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THE DOCTOR SAID THAT BLOOD IN HERE? YEAH.HOW LONG IS THAT ROAD MATERIAL PRICE FOR THI SINCE IT'S THAT'S A SINGLE SOURCE CONTRACT.
HOW LONG OUT I GOT ELECTRIC? I KNOW I GOT 7 0 9.
WHAT? OH YEAH, HE CHEAT ALWAYS HAS I GET YOU TO EMAIL ME WHO PAID WHO VOTES TO PAY THE BILLS AND THE AJOUR? I GUESS THEY HAVE SEVERAL.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I NEED.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE CARRIE KNOWS HOW SAYS HE BE.
WELL WE WON'T SEE YOU AFTER CHRISTMAS SO HAVE A NICE HOLIDAY.
I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE NEXT WEEK IS CHRISTMAS WEEK SCARY ISN'T IT? OH WE HAVEN'T DONE
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CIRCUMSTANCES.WELL THAT WOULD DEFINITELY FALL LAST CONCENTRATION.
ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? IS THAT THE DAY I WAS GONE? I THINK IT WAS AMERICAN.
ARE YOU DON'T EAT ANYTHING? SHE I WOULD GO NORMALLY NO ONE.
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LAW ENFORCEMENT OF FOLKS THAT JUST A GOOD, I TELL YOU WHAT I IT'S GOOD ID ALL THE DOORS, YOU KNOW KNOW BEN CAMPBELL IN WHAT THE ONE STILL DO? BETTY BROWN.I THOUGHT I HAD A FAIRLY GOOD DEAL IN THE THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS INTO IT.
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ODYSSEY IS SENDING OVER THERE BETSY, SHE'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE JURY PACKAGE AND THE ATTORNEY'S SHOW THAT THE JURY WE USE NO IT'S NOT IT AND SUBMIT TO AND THE JURY IS ONLY EIGHT.THE ONES I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT THE TO DO THAT.
THEY MAY LOOK I AND THE UNDERSTAND NEW UPGRADE.
OKAY, SO THE AGENDA, IT EITHER THE, I HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE THEY LOGGING DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION DOES SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE FOR HIM TO SAY TO HIM, I DID Y'ALL GET, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE SO MUCH OF THIS? HOW MUCH AND DID YOU CHANGE PRESERVATION? IS THAT SOMETHING? BUT IT'S LIKE, I THINK ELEVATION 34, HIGHWAY 34.
SEE THE, THE ELEVATION THERE AND THE ELEVATION ON THE ELEVATION.
SEE JUST WHAT IT WOULD, I DON'T THINK DISAPPOINTED.
IS IT A HANDHELD ONE? YEAH, IT'S A YELLOW.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA, LET'S COME ON HERE DOWN AND JUST MAYBE GOOGLE ELEVATION.
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I DUNNO WHY JURY MANAGEMENT SAW THAT YOUNG LADY AND EXPLAINED TO HER HOW TO GET ON.SHE SAID SHE'S TRIED SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, KIRK SENT ME THE ONE ON JURY MANAGEMENT.
SO I WENT OUT TO, THEY HAD A PARADE OUT THERE THURSDAY NIGHT, I DUNNO.
AND UH, TO BRING THE BOSTON OUT.
WE CARRIED, DROVE OUT TO THURSDAY AND WE HAD THE PARADE THURSDAY NIGHT.
WE HAD UH, RED LIGHTS, STRING, STRING LIGHTS ALL AROUND ON THE CAR AND I PUT THEM ON THE HORNS.
LOOKS LIKE SHE MAY NOT HAVE FINISHING TERMS. SO EVERYBODY I TALKED TO SHERIFF OUT THERE, THAT'S A SMALL POPULATION ABOUT THREE AND THEY'RE ALL, WHEN YOU GET GOT THOSE RANCH, RANCH, RANCH, YOU.
SO IT'S JUST LAND AND LAND AND VERY FEW PEOPLE.
YEAH, HE SENT DON'T, HE MUST HAVE BEEN, I WAS TALKING TO JOHN ABOUT THE JURY MANAGEMENT STUDY AND HE WAS STANDING THERE AND TALKED TO HIM.
SO YOU AWAY FROM THAT? SHE SAID, THEY TELL ME STAY AT THE SHOP AND PLAY DOMINOES ALL THE TIME.
BUT THAT DOESN'T RELATE AUTOMATION.
WE THE CODE SPECIFIC ON YOU HAVE MONEY FOR AUTOMATION AND PRESERVATION.
SO HE WANTS TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY IS INCREASE YOUR AUTOMATION PERCENTAGE.
BUT IT'S ONLY AND THAT'S WHAT JOHN ASKING, GIVE NO SPECIFICS THAT I ABLE SO THAT PRESERVATION FINANCIAL, WHAT PERCENTAGE PERCENTAGE TRYING TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
DISTRICT HAS CREATED, IT'S UP TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT OWN PROPERTY IN THAT DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BOARD IS ACTIVE.
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TAXES ARE COMING IN.
THE COUNTY HAS NO, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT JOHNNY MONEY AND THAT'S ONE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE NEGLIGENT ON ANY PRINTER.
I, I CAN PRINT ONE OUT MYSELF RATHER THAN WAIT FOR LISA.
THEY COME AND SAY OKAY, ON A PIECE OF PAPER
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OF FACT, IT'S REALLY ONCE YOU GET INTO IT ADMINISTRATIVE, I'LL LEAVE HERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO SAY FOUR TIMES A YEAR'S LIST'S LIKE HE TO WAIT DAYS BEFORE HE TAKES, I COULD JUST HAVE ABOUT THE JUDGE.SHE WOULD'VE ACCESS TO ANY OF THIS STUFF.
SHE SHE NEEDS TO GO ON AND GET CERTIFIED.
HAVE RUNS KIND THE FIRST TIME FOR HIM OVER THERE.
HE DIDN'T DO THEY GONNA SAY DOES OUT SOUND GOOD? I'M PRETTY SURE SHE, HE CALLED ME ABOUT RANCH DOWN FRIEND SAM I THINK IS BUYING HALF A
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NEXT THING, YOU KNOW, GOT A STUDENT THERE, THEY HAVE DRUGS FOR THAT WE CONTRACT WITH THIS LAW FIRM.I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE LEARN THAT THIS FIRM HAD THAT RANCH.
SO HE THOUGHT MAYBE HE GO DOWN THIS YEAR.
I CAN'T IMAGINE, I DON'T SEE ME GOING ANYTIME SOON.
SO I DON'T THE WHAT DOING OVER HERE, WHAT DOING HERE ALWAYS COME TO.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT YOU GET TIED UP IN, CAN'T JUST LET THE GIRLS KNOW THAT THEY'LL CALL.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY RADIO LEADERSHIP AND I EVEN OLD PEOPLE THAT'S GO THROUGH THAT.
YOU, SHE SEND ME, I CAME IN IN 2000.
NO, THAT'S, NO, I WAS JUST A, I DIDN'T TELL SHERIFF.
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SHE'S HEAD THE CENSUS POSITION.LAST TIME WE HAD, SO THEY REPLACED THE WINDOWS.
THEY WENT MILL, MILL WINDOWS THAT LOOK LIKE THE OLD, BUT THEY SOME BUSES THERE AND THEY SAID YOU GOT THE CHOICE TAKING THOSE OUT AND PUTTING YOUR OLD ONES BACK IN.
WHICH IF YOU, THEY WERE BROKEN COST, HAVING NEW ONES MADE JUST LIKE THE OLD UTILITY.
WELL THAT'S GONNA COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.
THE OTHER CHOICE WAS LEAVE IT LIKE IT'S, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE AND IT LIKE THEY, THEY CAN JUST SAY OKAY WE MIGHT NO THAT AND THEY STILL LOST.
COMMISSIONER MILLER SAYS WE CAN PAY THE BILLS.
COMMISSIONER CLERK WILL SECOND THAT AND COMMISSIONER JACKSON SAYS WE OWE.
A COMMISSIONER JACKSON SAYS IT'S TIME TO ADJOURN.
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YEAH, TIME, EMAIL, AND WAIT ON ALL THAT STUFF.