* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] MR. CHRISTIANS HEAVENLY FATHER OUT THE YEAR, AND WE GET UP ON, UH, JUST JEN AND HIS BROTHER TODD, AS THEY RECUPERATE FROM A ACCIDENT THAT THEY HAD, UH, WARM THE COLD PLACES IN OUR HEARTS HEALED. THE INJURED AREAS IN OUR SOUL, LIGHT, THE DARK PLACES IN OUR WORLD AND IN OUR LIVES, AND FEEL THE EMPTY PLACES IN OUR SPIRIT. ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, REPUBLIC FOR RELIGIOUS HANDS, ONE NATION OF INVIS WITH LIBERTY OF JUSTICE, HONOR, IGI TO BE TEXAS. ONE STATE, YOU ADD A POST PRINTER. I'VE GOT ANOTHER FLOATER IN MY LEFT EYE AND IT'S OVER, SO I CAN'T, MY RIGHT EYE. VERY GOOD TO DISSOLVE ITSELF. SO WE'LL SEE A LONG, LONG TIME. OKAY, FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS, AND WE'RE GOING DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ILLEGAL DUMPING EDUCATION AND AWARENESS. GRANT. YOU ASK HIM, JILL? NO, WELL, SEE, THEY'RE NOT HERE. THAT'S, I, I COULDN'T SEE HIM ANYWAY, SO I, THE MOTION WILL BE OKAY. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY MR. JACKSON. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? ALL OPPOSED TO SAY, AYE. MOTION CARRIES NOW, MR. YOU'RE UP. OKAY. GOOD MORNING. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME GIVE A REPORT. I MADE THIS DATE TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE, UM, ILLEGAL DUMPING EDUCATION AND AWARENESS GRANT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WOULD'VE PAPERWORK BY NOW. I'M, I'M SURE THAT IN THE NEXT WEEK WE WILL HAVE IT AND, AND IT'LL BE SIGNED. SO I'LL BE GETTING A HOLD OF, UH, JUDGE JEN TO DO THAT. BUT I WANTED TO JUST GO OVER WHAT WE WILL BE GETTING WITH THAT GRANT. UM, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY PROBLEMS. AND WE'VE BEEN AWARDED $89,000 IN FUNDING FOR TCEQ. IT'LL BE, UM, ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COD. AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT MONEY IS, UM, WORK ON A, ANOTHER ILLEGAL DUMPING CAMPAIGN FOR EDUCATION AND, AND AWARENESS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE ABATEMENT OFFICERS REALLY NEEDED A NEW TRUCK. SO I WROTE A NEW TRUCK IN THERE. UM, THEY WILL GET A NEW PICKUP AND THEN SOME NEW COMPUTERS FOR BOTH OF THE TRUCKS. PRINTER. WE WANT TO PUT GRAPHICS ON THAT WE'RE BUYING. AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. WE WENT AHEAD AND WROTE IT INTO THE GRANT SO THAT WE COULD USE IT FOR AN EDUCATIONAL VEHICLE. AND WHENEVER WE DO OUR KIDS PROGRAMS AND THINGS, THEY CAN BRING THAT OUT. PLUS IT'S JUST A, A BILLBOARD RUNNING ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY CONSTANTLY TO, SO WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE THAT VERBIAGE OR WHATEVER THE GRAPHICS ARE REALLY, UM, IN SYNC WITH, WITH THE ILLEGAL DUMPING THING. UM, WE'RE GONNA GET A CAMCORDER, A DIGITAL CAMCORDER. THEY WANTED, UM, A CAMERA AND THEN PROTECTIVE, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE GEAR FOR SNAKE BITES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND WROTE ALL OF THAT IN AND THEN, UM, THERE'S AN EDUCATIONAL ASPECT TO IT AND WE'RE GONNA MANAGE [00:05:01] THAT AND WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE SCHOOLS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, UM, AND WORKING WITH THE ABATEMENT OFFICERS ALSO ON SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AND WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL ODYSSEY EVERY YEAR. AND SO THE THEME FOR THIS YEAR'S IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, CENTERED AROUND THE ILLEGAL DUMPING SO THAT WE CAN GET THE KIDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT LITTERING IS NOT A GOOD THING AND WHAT IT DOES TO OUR WATERS. AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA TIE THAT INTO CEDAR CREEK LAKE IN THE WATERSHED. AND THEN, UM, A LOT OF, UH, THIS WORK WILL BE DONE IN THE NAME OF ACUTE COPELIN COUNTY BEAUTIFUL. WHICH IS, UM, AN AFFILIATE THAT WE AT THE CO-OP STARTED FIVE YEARS AGO. AND SO WE'LL BE USING THAT, UM, AFFILIATION SO THAT WE CAN DO A LOT OF CLEANUPS. AND, UM, THAT HELPS BECAUSE IT'S A, A REAL NAME BRAND, UM, WITH TEXAS. BEAUTIFUL. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT AND GET THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE UP AND RUNNING. IT'S JUST, IT'S DIFFICULT 'CAUSE WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY FUNDS, BUT WE'VE KIND OF KEPT IT, KEPT IT OUT IN THE, IN THE, UM, SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, THAT THERE IS A KEY COFFMAN COUNTY. BEAUTIFUL. UM, AND IT'S, AND REALLY THAT PARTICULAR LITTLE AFFILIATE IS PRETTY WELL KNOWN FOR WITH KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE I'M CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL. AND SO THEY KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS ONE. UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR GRANT ISSUE? I'LL BE WORKING WITH, UM, SHERIFF BURNS ON THAT THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER. OKAY. THE SECOND ISSUE IS WE, ON OUR LAST GRANT, WE BOUGHT A LOT OF EQUIPMENT AND IT WAS A BOX TRUCK, 24 FOOT BOX TRUCK, UM, DIESEL TRUCK. WE WERE USING IT ENORMOUSLY. UM, THEN WE GOT ONE 50 KICK, WHICH IS GREAT. WE, THAT'S BEEN USED IT, THEIR USED DAILY. UM, AND THEN THE BAILORS AND WE GOT SOME TRAILERS AND, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING SAYING HOW WE'RE GONNA REPAIR THOSE. AND WHEN I WENT TO, UM, COMM JACKSON, HE WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU BASICALLY SAID THAT THAT WOULD BE RODENT BRIDGE MONEY IF WE WERE TO GO THROUGH YOUR BARN TO, TO GET ANY KIND OF OIL CHANGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I WAS JUST COMING TO FIND OUT HOW WE WOULD DO THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA IT'S YOUR EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT OURS. WE DO PAY ABOUT THREE TO $4,000 A YEAR IN INSURANCE SO THAT WE CAN USE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WAS NEVER DISCUSSED I GUESS AS WHAT WE WOULD DO WATER REPAIRS. SO I THINK THAT THE ISSUE IS JUST SOMETHING WE WANT TO BRING UP SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT, BRING UP FROM, FROM HERE OUT THE FORD ONE 50 UNDER WARRANTY. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BRAND NEW TRUCK. THE, THE DIESEL WAS A USED VEHICLE, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THINGS THAT WILL COME UP ON THAT. IT HAS GREAT TIRES AND SO THAT'S NOT REALLY GONNA BE AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED AS WE GO FORWARD. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YOU GOT ANY SUGGESTIONS? FIGURE THAT OUT. THE GENERAL, WELL, COMMISSIONER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT AND JACK AS WELL. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING I CAN DO WITHOUT Y'ALL'S SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT OR A, WHAT JOHN WOULD WANT. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M DOING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I CAN SEE THAT IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM. WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WE PUT, WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP UP WITH IT FAIRLY WELL, BUT I DON'T WANT THOSE VEHICLES TO GET IN BAD REPAIR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO HUMAN REPAIRS BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY VALUABLE. I THINK SHE DOESN'T, SHE DOESN'T HAVE A LINE ITEM. GET ALL MAINTENANCE. THE WAY SHE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT IS THE COUNTIES, EVEN THOUGH SHE GOT BELONG TO THE COUNTY, SO THE MAINTENANCE PART OF IT, DOES SHE HAVE TO TAKE IT SOMEWHERE AND PAY FOR IT? UH, LIKE OIL FILE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. YEAH. CAN SHE COME TO MY SHOP? YEAH, I, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE WERE THERE THE OTHER DAY, THEY SAID THERE WAS A REALLY SMALL, UM, FUEL LEAK AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, YOU [00:10:01] KNOW, BAD AT ALL. 'CAUSE OUR MILEAGE IS FAIRLY GOOD FOR AS BIG OF A TRUCK AS IT'S, BUT THINGS LIKE THAT ARE GONNA COME UP AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. UH, NOW A PORTION OF THE EACH COMMISSIONER'S BUDGET IS FINE AND FEES AND COURT'S NOT TAX MONEY. THAT'S TRUE. UH, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE YOU THINK MAYBE MR. JACKSON TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE HIS PEOPLE CHANGE THE LAW AND, AND WE CAN, HE CAN MAYBE SEND US A BILL. LET'S DO A TRANSFER IN HOUSE TO THE GENERAL FUND. I, I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE WE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN STRICTLY OUT OF MR. JACKSON'S BUDGET, BUT, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE GENERAL FUND SHOULD BE PAYING FOR QUESTION IS HOW DO WE GET IT FROM MARYLAND TO THE GENERAL FUND? UH, AND IT'D BE A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER FOR MR. JACKSON'S MEN TO, UH, DO THE MAINTENANCE NOR CHANGE WOULD BE TAKE DOWN OR SOMETHING IF YES, MY ONLY CONCERN WAS THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAKE A DECISION LIKE THAT. YEAH, I THINK WE COULD LIVE AT THAT PRETTY EASILY. AND IF COMMISSIONER JACKSON WOULD SEND ME A, A BILL OR A STATEMENT THAT HERE'S WHAT WE DID AND HERE'S WHAT WE TRANSFER THE THAT'S SHOULDN'T BE WHAT YOU NEED COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER TO AUTHORIZE YOU TO DO THAT. THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. WOULD HAVE TO LOOK JOHN CAN. OKAY. JOHN SAYS NO PROBLEM. SO, SO WHAT'S THE SEQUENCE? SHOULD WOULD TAKE IT TO COMMISSIONER JACKSON FOR EXAMPLE? THREE. AND, AND THEN IN HIS MEETING, WOULD YOU, WOULD HE WOULD SUBMIT IT TO JUST SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT HERE. BUDGET. OKAY. OKAY. ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THAT? YEAH. WELL THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF WORRY BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GONNA DO, BUT I DON'T MIND DOING IT. I JUST APPRECIATE THAT WE CAN NO, WE NEED, WE NEED TO DO IT THIS WAY. SO, SO WE COME TO THINGS LIKE MOTOR REPLACEMENT TIRE, THINGS SUCH AS THAT. WHAT IS THAT? WELL, MOTOR REPLACEMENT. WE'LL DO, WE CAN DO THE SIMPLE MAINTENANCE ON IT. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I HAD TO, YOU KNOW, PUT NEW TIRES ON IT OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ONLY ABOUT $500 A PIECE. SO WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD I HAVE TO DO NOW? PURCHASE 500 A PIECE, BUT, BUT THE COUNTY WOULD UPKEEP THESE VEHICLES. IS THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. YEAH, THE, THEY, THE COUNTY ACTUALLY OWNS THEM. THEY DO. THEY ARE COUNTY OWNED VEHICLES. AND YOU DO USE THEM EVERY DAY. ARE THEY USED PARTIALLY FOR CITY WORK IN, I DUNNO, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE COUNTY'S RECYCLING PROGRAM. SO WE DON'T REALLY, WE GO TO THE DROP OFF SITES. THOSE DROP OFFS ARE COUNTY DROP OFFS THERE. THERE'S ONE AT THE SUB COURTHOUSE. NOW THE CITY, THE ONE THING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR DROP OFF IS THAT THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH ISI AND THEY HAVE ALLOWED ISI MEAN ISI DOES NOT CHARGE FOR THAT. OKAY. THAT YOURS, THEY, THEY CHARGE FOR. SO WE ARE GETTING A LOT THROUGH HAULING OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR SITE, WHEREAS WE'RE NOT AT, AT YOURS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF UM, UM, ISI CONTRACT AND, AND THAT'S THE SAME WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST THAT THE CITY OF TERRELL IS HELPING US A LOT WITH, WITH THAT PARTICULAR, BUT IT'S YOUR SITE, IT'S YOUR DROP OFF SITE. SO NO, NOT REALLY. THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE CITY. WELL, I WOULD SAY FOR IF AND WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR PURCHASE, A $500 75 TIRE, WE'LL COVER THAT INDIVIDUAL. WE'LL COVER THAT AT THAT TIME. YEAH. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT ON THIS MAINTENANCE AND UH, UH, MOTION COMMISSIONER JACKSON, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, ALLOW THE MAINTENANCE, GENERAL MAINTENANCE MAINTENANCE'S CALLED A GENERAL MAINTENANCE WORK, UH, TO BE DONE BY YOUR PRECINCT. AND THEN FILE FOR REIMBURSEMENT TO THE AUDITOR FOR FROM THE GENERAL, [00:15:01] I MAKE THAT MOTION. WE DO THE GENERAL MAINTENANCE ROUTINE. MAINTEN. YEAH. ROUTINE, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. I SAID GENERAL MAINTENANCE SAID YEAH. ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE AND COMMISSIONER SECONDS. THERE MORE DISCUSSION. CAN WE GET JOHN ONE MORE DISCUSSION? YEAH, I THINK SO. IS THERE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, PUT ON THAT SO THAT WE COME BACK TO THE COURT IF WE NEED TO OR JUST SO, I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABUSIVE AT ALL, BUT YEAH, YOU NEVER HAVE. WE KNOW THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT STUCK AND WE CAN'T FIX A TRUCK AND WE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN I GET DONE WITH THIS, I'M GONNA TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE RECYCLE. THAT IS A LOT . SO, YOU KNOW, THAT STUFF PILED UP PRETTY FAST AND SO I DON'T WANNA BE IN A SITUATION WHERE EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, GOT STUFF PILED UP AND WE CAN'T PICK IT UP. MS. MAY, I THINK ONCE WE GET PAST THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE STUFF, YEAH, I THINK, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED AN AMOUNT ON THERE IF IT'S JUST ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. YEAH. UH, I I I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT JACK'S OPINION IS ON THIS PURCHASING OF THE PURCHASING OF TIRES OR ABOVE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? WELL, I THINK WE DO THE SAME WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW FOR, FOR COUNTY EQUIPMENT THROUGH STATE CONTRACT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT WANT TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING NEXT YEAR FOR THE NEXT BUDGET. CREATE SOMETHING. MAYBE ANOTHER SECTION FOR JACKSON, MAYBE ANOTHER LINE ITEM, POSSIBLY. I DON'T THIS PRE. OKAY. I JUST THINK DOLLAR MONTH. WELL, I DUNNO IF THEY'RE, I'M JUST, YOU MIGHT COME THROUGH MEETING, MAKE SURE WE OFF CONTRACT THAT WE DO HAVE CONTRACT. YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT UNLESS WE WERE GETTING GRANT FUNDING FOR SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ANY MORE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. KEEP UP THE GOOD. OKAY. UM, LEMME JUST SHOW YOU. SEE, GOT COUPLE OTHER THINGS. ONE IS THE WEBSITE. WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE. I THINK I WROTE YOU A LETTER ON IT. UM, I LOOKED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO BECAUSE I HAVE INTERNET ON MY PHONE AND IT WAS, IT DOES CONNECT NOW, BUT IT WASN'T CONNECTING, UM, BEFORE, BEFORE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. UM, BUT IT JUST SAYS TRASH BUSTED ON THERE. IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE ANY DESCRIPTION AS FAR AS WHAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE LOOKING FOR. I MEAN, I, I I, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU THINK TRASH BUSTERS IS GOOD ENOUGH, BUT, UM, I'M JUST WONDERING THE OTHER, SO ENERGY EFFICIENCY, I DON'T THINK ANY ONE OF US GAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT OTHER THAN GEORGE DOING. OKAY. YOU NEED TO GIVE GEORGE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. OKAY. SO, ALRIGHT. YOU NEED TO ADVISE GEORGE WHAT'S GOING ON, OTHERWISE GEORGE GONNA MAKE UP HIS OWN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I THINK I PARAGRAPH, BUT I, I'LL TALK TO THEM AND THROUGH THAT. UM, AND THEN THE RESULTS FROM OUR RECYCLING GAVE YOU A SHEET. AND THIS IS PRELIMINARY. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT IT'S, UM, THE END BECAUSE I JUST FOUND OUT THIS MORNING BEFORE, I THINK THAT WE GOT THE NUMBERS ON THE PLASTICS AND METALS GOING OUT OF THE MATERIAL, UH, DROP OFF SITE. AND THAT WAS 42,780 IS A CHART, A COLORED CHART THAT WAS WITH, SO THIS YEAR WITH THAT NUMBER WE'VE RECYCLED 727,690 POUNDS. THAT'S NOT REALLY ALL OF IT YET BECAUSE ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO COME IN AND WE DON'T HAVE THE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE CAMP SITE AND WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE KAUFMAN RECYCLING EITHER. SO WE ARE DOING AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF RECYCLING AND KEEPING IT OUTTA THE LANDFILL FROM THIS. YEAH, WE SEE A, IT'S A VERY POPULAR THING. PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO DO THIS. SO, UM, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING VERY WELL WITH THAT. THAT'S WHY I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT. UM, AND ALSO I WANTED TO REITERATE WHEN, WHEN I WAS HERE LAST APRIL OR AUGUST, I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME GRANTS AND JUDGE, YOU WERE NOT HERE AT THAT MEETING. UM, I'VE BEEN CONSIDERING AND TALKING TO SEVERAL PEOPLE ABOUT SEVERAL UPDATING THAT 20 [00:20:01] YEAR SOLID WASTE PLAN. WE'RE, THIS IS A 12TH YEAR AND, UM, I THINK THAT THERE ARE NEW THINGS THAT ARE COMING OUT. THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND EXPAND ON AND I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR OPINIONS, UH, WHETHER YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO THIS. THE NEXT GRANT ROUND IS COMING UP IN MARCH, SO THE GRANT WILL HAVE TO BE WRITTEN. UM, AND THE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT WOULD WORK WITH US ON DOING THAT. HOW DOES YOUR BOARD FEEL ABOUT IT? I THINK THAT THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT THAT GIVES US A DIRECTION. UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A DIRECTIVE TO WHAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO. UM, WE'VE GOTTEN INVOLVED IN THE CEDAR CREEK LAKE, UM, WATERSHED PLAN. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHEN WE CHANGED THE, THE DBA TO ENVIRONMENTAL CROP, IT GAVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A OPENNESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE HERBI FORESTRY TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT GRANT FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT, BUT IT WON'T BE COMING UNTIL NOVEMBER IF WE GET IT. UM, BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS DEAL WITH WATER. I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, IF WE THROW HAZARDOUS WASTE ON THE GROUND, IF WE PUT A COMPUTER AND BREAK IT AND ALL THE CHEMICALS GO OUT OF IT, ALL GOES INTO OUR WATER. SO WATER REALLY IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF SOLID WASTE AND KEEPING THAT OFF THE GROUND, KEEPING IT, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE RIGHT PLACES SO THAT I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE, UM, OPEN TO THAT. I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE, THEY, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN IT IN THAT PLAN TOO, AND IT KIND OF HELPS THEM, UM, HAVE A CHARTER AS FAR AS WHICH WAY THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA GO. SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO FIND OUT, AND I WANTED TO ALSO FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER TOPICS OR THINGS THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO EXPAND. WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE TO US FOR, UH, TO REVISIT THIS GRANT AFTER 12 YEARS THAT OR AFTER YOU WELL, I KNOW THAT THE 20 YEAR PLAN PLAN, IT'S THE PLAN. YOU, 12 YEARS AGO, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY, UM, HAD, UH, A 20 YEAR SOLID WASTE PLAN DEVELOPED AND IT IS THE ONLY CERTIFIED PLAN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS BY ANY COUNTY. NONE OF THE OTHERS EVER GOT CERTIFIED. SO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS JUST UPDATING THE CERTIFIED. OH, I SEE. I UNDERSTAND. NO, IT WOULD BE AN UPDATE SO THAT WE COULD LOOK AT ANOTHER MAYBE 20 YEARS AND SEE WHAT OTHER THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE NEW, I MEAN, WE DID THIS WITH HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU HAVE IN THE COUNTY AT THE TIME? MAYBE 42,000. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE AT 104,000 RIGHT NOW WITH THE, THAT'S THE STATISTICS FROM THE COST AND THERE'S STILL GROWTH IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS I'M SURE. SO YOU AND YOUR BOARD WOULD WORK ON THAT AND THEN WE WOULD BE THE ONES TO MANAGE DOING IT. YEAH. THEN Y'ALL WOULD BRING IT TO THE COURT FOR COURT'S FINAL APPROVAL. MM-HMM . IN THE MEANTIME, IF EVEN ONE OF THE COMMISSIONER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE PUT IN THERE, THEN THEY, THEY CAN CONTACT. RIGHT. OR WE MAY EVEN ASK IF THE ONE WILL, YOU KNOW, SIT ON THE COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING SO THAT WE HAVE A, UM, SOMEBODY THAT'S RIGHT INVOLVED WITH THE COURT THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. UM, I THINK THAT WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS GET A CITIZENS GROUP TOGETHER. UM, WE'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT, WHO YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE ON THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR PLAN. IT'S JUST THAT WE WOULD BE MANAGING THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WAS PUTTING IT TOGETHER AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND JUST MANAGE EVERYTHING ELSE SO WELL. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. THINGS HAVE CHANGED THE LAST 12 YEARS. LIKE YOU SAY, WE'VE GONE FROM 40,000 TO 104,000, PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT. IT'LL JUST HELP EV ALL OF US HAVE UM, KIND OF A, A VISION OF WHICH WAY TO GO. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET A LOT OF THESE GRANTS BECAUSE THE CO KIND OF FAVORS THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE PUT THE EFFORT INTO GETTING A PLAN ESTABLISHED A LONG TIME AGO. AND THAT WE HAVE A, A VISION OF WHICH WAY WE WANT IT TO GO. THAT'S WHY WE GOT THE HOUSE HAZARDOUS WAYS. THAT'S HOW WE GOT, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS STATES IN THAT PLAN [00:25:01] THAT WE NEED FOUR DROP OFF OR FOUR CONVENIENCE STATIONS. WE'VE GOT THREE NOW. SO WE STILL HAVE ONE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THAT OTHER ONE THAT WE DON'T HAVE? YEAH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE. AND THEN THERE'S A PROPERTY ON 4 29 THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY. SO THE, THE PROPERTY ISSUE IS ALWAYS THE CASE BECAUSE AS COMMISSIONER LER KNOWS, WE HAVE TO OWN THE PROPERTY BEFORE WE CAN GO OUT AND ASK FOR MONEY TO PUT A SITE ON THERE. THEY'LL PAY FOR PUTTING THE SITE ON IT, BUT THEY'LL NOT PAY FOR. AND IN REGARDS TO THE POINT OF PRECINCT TOO, I BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, EARLIER, IF WE HAD LONG TERM LEASE ON IT, YES WE COULD STILL DO THE SAME THING. SO I'M WORKING WITH THE PAROLE GROUP RIGHT NOW TO GET A LONG TERM LEASE. THEY, THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY WAY OUT WHERE NOBODY COULD FIND A PROPERTY CONVENIENT. I'M PUSHING FOR ANOTHER PROPER PIECE PROPERTY THAT'S VERY ACCESSIBLE ON A LEASE THING THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF CONVENIENCE STATION. IT'S WAY HAVE NOBODY CAN, IT WOULD COST ME MORE TO BUILD A ROAD TO IT. . I'VE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN REALLY HONESTLY, HAVING SOMETHING CONVENIENT IS NOT MAKING PEOPLE DRIVE THREE TO FOUR MILES, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THEIR WAY TO TRY TO, OR EVEN FURTHER TO TRY TO DO THIS. BUT WE HAVE PROBABLY COSMO COUNTY HAS ONE OF THE BETTER PROGRAMS FOR A RURAL COMMUNITY. I KNOW JUDGE KNOWS THAT. UM, THESE OTHER COUNTIES DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPARE WITH WHAT WE HAVE. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CO-OP HAS BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING ALL OF THAT ESTABLISHED TOO. SO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP WORKING TOGETHER. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT EQUAL DISTANCE BETWEEN CROWN AND 40, ONLY QUARTER MILE OFF OF MARILYN. DONE MORE CONTACT WITH ANDERSON. YOU KIND GIVE IT UP ON THAT. I HAVEN'T BUT I I THINK YOU AND I NEED TO PROBABLY, AGAIN, WE, IT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S, WE AND JUST BECAUSE THE REST OF THE COURT MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, THE SOUTHERN HALF OF COMAN COUNTY, THE SCHOOLS ARE BOTH HENDERSON RESIDENTS AND VANS, AUNT RESIDENTS AND I MEAN THEY ARE, THOSE OTHER COUNTIES ARE SO CLOSE THAT THEIR CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND WE'RE GOING IN AND TALKING ABOUT RECYCLING AND WHERE THEY CAN RECYCLE. THEY CAN'T 'CAUSE WE WANT, WE CAN'T LET 'EM BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE OF IT, IT COSTS UM, PRECINCT FOUR TO, TO MANAGE ALL OF THIS AND TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, SENDING IT TO THE, THE RECYCLERS AND SENDING THE TRASH OUT AND IT KEEPS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE. SO WE'VE TRIED TO TALK TO, UM, THE COMMISSIONER, ESPECIALLY OVER IN HENDERSON COUNTY. 'CAUSE THE CEDAR CREEK LAKE AREA REALLY ENCOMPASSES HENDERSON COUNTY MORE THAN VANS AUNT. WE HAVEN'T, WE'VE HAD SOME IN VANS AUNT, BUT, UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY'RE WILLING TO HELP WITH THE EXPENSES. NOW ONE THING WE DID COME UP WITH WAS A CHARGE, A MINIMAL CHARGE WHEN THEY DROP OFF OR TO HAVE SOME, WELL IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MINIMAL, IF WE GAVE 'EM A PASS, I KNOW THAT ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS WOULD BE GETTING ON A PASS, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THE, THE COUNTY COURT WOULD BE OPEN TO US BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND HAVE A CHARGE WHERE IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE HENDERSON OR V SAINT COUNTY FAMILY, THEY COULD BRING THEIR THINGS IN BUT BE CHARGED. 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY WAY THAT HENDERSON COUNTY IS GONNA COME UP WITH MONEY TO HELP OUR COUNTY WITH THOSE EXPENSES. NOW MOST OF THE CITIZENS SAY THEY WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO PAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. WE JUST HAVE KIND OF, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT, WE'VE BEEN OVER THERE, WE'VE MET WITH 'EM. IT HASN'T REALLY COME UP WITH ANYTHING. AS EVERYBODY SAYS, RECYCLING IS VERY, VERY HOT. THESE, EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO IT. IT'S ON TELEVISION. KIDS ARE GROWING UP KNOWING THEY SHOULD DO IT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY. WE HAVE THE OUTLET, BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO, TO DO IT FOR ANOTHER COUNTY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL WOULD THINK ABOUT CHARGING JUDGE. IS THERE A REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT WANT TO CHARGE THEM? WELL, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY YOU'D BE WILLING TO DO. SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE CHARGING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT CHARGING THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT CHARGING INDIVIDUALS [00:30:01] THAT BRING IT OUT. YOU KNOW, EVEN HERE IN KALIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WANT DUMP SOMETHING, I GOTTA GO OVER HERE AND BUY A PERMIT. MURPHY, ARE THEY GONNA, IS IT GONNA, CAN THEY PAY FOR THE CREDIT CARD OR SOMETHING OR ARE YOU GONNA TRY TO COST CASH OR WELL WE CAN'T, WE DON'T PAY CASH OFF. PICK THE CREDIT CARD AND THEN BUY A TICKET. UH, AT THE SUB COURTHOUSE. SUB COURTHOUSE. YES. YEAH, WE, WE CALCULATED THE PRICE BASED ON WHAT IT COST TO HAUL HAUL 30 OR 40 YARD. YEAH. UH, WE'RE BREAKING EITHER. UH, WE, WE THOUGHT AT ONE TIME IT WOULD GET MULTICOLORED TICKETS AND, AND JUST LET 'EM DUMP AND THEN THE ENTERED COUNTY REIMBURSES. BUT NO, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THAT, SO IT, IT KIND COME TO A STANDSTILL. RIGHT. IF WE DID DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD MAKE A MULTICOLOR THAT WOULD SHOW THAT THAT PERSON, WELL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT NEEDS, YEAH, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SO THAT WE CAN CALCULATE THEM AND WOULD BE GOOD TO KEEP UP KEEPING AN ACCOUNT AND WHO IS COMING IN, WHO'S COMING OVER AND YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT MANY, BUT ONCE WE OFFERED IT, BUT I GO TO THOSE, UH, I GO DOWN TO THE CHAMBER MEETINGS, UM, AND THEY, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THOSE CHAMBER MEETINGS REALLY WANNA BE ABLE TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, UPSET. I GET CALLS, I'VE HAD PEOPLE BEG, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT BRENDA HAS TURNED AWAY SO MANY PEOPLE AND THEY'VE BEEN MAD. THEY'VE JUST GONE OUT OF THERE BEING FURIOUS, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, SO DOING THAT MIGHT BE, I MEAN MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT IF EVERYBODY THINKS THAT THAT'S A, AN OKAY, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE WHEN THEY LEAVE FROM THERE THAT HENDERSON COUNTY TRASH IS GONNA END UP IN THE PRECINCT COURT. IT DOES. THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT. UNLESS YOU AND I GET TOGETHER SOMETIME IN NEXT WEEK OR OKAY. BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH BECAUSE THAT WOULD REALLY GO IN WITH THIS LEGAL. OKAY. I MEAN I THINK THAT THAT COULD, COULD WORK INTO THAT. I GUESS, UH, I GUESS THIS IS NOT AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT I GUESS IF WE CAN COME UP WITH THE SAME CHARGE THAT WE CHARGED HENDERSON COUNTY, ZA COUNTY, THIS IS THE TWO THAT PROBABLY, UH, ALL OF HENDERSON COUNTY, ALL ISPS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DISCUSS. I'VE EVEN HAD HUNT COUNTY THOUGH, SOMEBODY WITH HAZARDOUS WAYS. PEOPLE HAVE NOWHERE TO TAKE THIS. AND WHEN THEY ARE GENUINELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THE ENVIRONMENT, THEY, THEY'LL GO ANYWHERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WILL YOU PLEASE HELP ME? AND I HAVE NO WAY TO DO THAT. IF THIS, IF THIS, IF THIS GRANT WAS GIVEN BY COG, BUT THE HE ALSO WASTE THAT GRANT A COG GRANT, WASN'T IT? IT WAS, BUT THAT GRANT, I MEAN THAT'S OVER NOW YOU CAN DO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT SHOULD COVER ALL NORTH CENTRAL GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT. RIGHT. BUT YEAH, HENDERSON HENDERSON AND VAN. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT THAT'S, BUT THAT'S THE, THE, I THINK THE WAY THAT WE MANAGE IT NOW IS NOT A, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. I THINK THAT, UM, THE FUNDING WAS THERE SO THAT OUR COUNTY WOULD USE IT. AND I THINK IF WE SAT DOWN AND AND REALLY TOLD THE TRUTH, IT'S NOT BEING USED LIKE IT SHOULD BE BEING USED. I MEAN I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T LET OTHER PEOPLE COME IN AND USE IT BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO USE IT THAT MUCH. IT'S CLOSER FOR THOSE PEOPLE DOWN THERE TO USE IT THAN IT IS FOR SOMEBODY BEFORE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN. WE PROBABLY NEED TO ADDRESS ANOTHER ONE UP IN THIS AREA. COMBINE WOULD PROBABLY GO FOR ME. DO YOU GET, WELL YOU DON'T HAVE TOTAL THE COMBINE PEOPLE COME HERE, I WONDER. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ESTABLISHED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY HOUSING HAZARDOUS WASTE UP HERE AT ALL. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THEY, THEY, THEY ALL CAN COME DOWN THERE. THEY CAN, BUT I GET IT'S LONG WAY A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. WHY WOULD I WANT TO DRIVE THAT FAR? WELL, CENTRALLY LOCATED, PUT THE HAZARD WASTE TO EVERYBODY. IT HAS TO BE ON COUNTY PARK. ISN'T THAT KIND OF PROPERTY? NO. UH, CITY PROPERTY. CITY PROPERTY. RIGHT. STATION. THE AND I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD BE CHARGING PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTIES. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD, WE SHOULD LOSE MONEY. OH NO, I THINK WE SHOULD TOO. [00:35:01] I JUST WASN'T SURE OF THAT. THE COURT WOULD EVEN WANT TO DO THAT. YEAH, BUT I DON'T THINK WE, WE WE'RE TRY TO MAKE A PROFIT. I MEAN WE JUST NEED TO YOU SO THAT'D BE GOOD. GET TOGETHER AND COME, MIGHT EVEN BE THE SAME COUNTY FROM THE CITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. TALK ABOUT THAT. LET'S DO IT BEFORE MARCH AND THEN, OKAY. BUT I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR CODE FOR THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES WHERE YOU COULD KEEP UP WHO'S KAMAN COUNTY, WHO'S VAN AND WHO'S ANDERSON. RIGHT. WE COULD JUST MAKE DIFFERENT COLOR TICKETS. YEAH. RIGHT. I THINK THAT PROBABLY THOSE PEOPLE ARE TALKING TO SOMEBODY THAT LIVES, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER BLOCK ANYWAY. AND THAT THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT BE BRINGING IT AND THAT MIGHT DISCOURAGE THAT AND THE PEOPLE FROM HENDERSON MIGHT GO, OKAY, WELL NOW I CAN USE IT. I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, I'LL PAY MY DOLLAR OR WHATEVER, OR $2 TO DROP OFF MY RECYCLE THE RECYCLING'S, WHAT I HEAR MOST ABOUT, BECAUSE UM, HENDERSON COUNTY DOES HAVE A A TRASH PLACE, THEY HAVE NO RECYCLING. SO IF WE CHARGE FOR THE, THE RECYCLING WHERE WE DON'T CHARGE OUR COUNTY PEOPLE FOR RECYCLING, BUT IF WE CHARGE FOR THAT, THEN THAT WOULD HELP YOU WITH YOUR EXPENSES A LITTLE BIT TOO. YEAH. EVEN IF IT'S MINIMAL. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GET TOGETHER AND IF ANYONE IN THE NEXT MONTH HAS AN IDEA OF SOMETHING, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT A CHEAPER AT ONE TIME. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, IDEAS OF THINGS? THIS IS THE TIME BECAUSE THERE'LL BE TWO MORE YEARS BEFORE WE CAN WRITE. JUDGE, I HAD A COMMENT. I I, I DON'T UH, FORESEE A PROBLEM WITH CHARGING OUT OF COUNTY RESIDENCE WITH SOMETHING, UH, AS FOOD FOR THOUGHT. I, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, I I HATE TO SEE, UM, INCREASING THE REVENUES THROUGH THAT AND SOMEHOW THAT MIGHT PENALIZE US ON THE GRANT APPLICATION PROCEDURE. BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE SHOWING ON THE NEXT TIME YOU GO FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF GRANTS. SO, AND IT MAY NOT BE VERY MUCH, IT MAY BE A NOMINAL SOME, BUT IF IN FACT IT IS, THIS MAY BE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. BUT I'D HATE TO SEE ANY GRANT AWARDS BEING DISCOUNTED BY. THAT'S GOOD POINT. BUT I, WE NEVER DO HAVE TO. BUT SINCE IT'S OUT AREA, I DOUBT IT WOULD WOULD BE SOMETHING TO ASK JIM, IS THERE GONNA BE A PROBLEM THAT SOMEBODY FROM ZA COMES DOWN THERE AND THEN YOU SAY, WELL YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE COUPONS YOU HAVE GO BACK UP TO THE CITY TO GET IT. THEY'RE GONNA BE MAD. WELL THAT'S WHAT THEY DON'T COME BACK. THEY BUY A BLACK CREDIT CARD AND THEN WE'LL JUST KEEP A LEDGER. YEAH, YOU COULD JUST DO IT THERE THEN. SO, BUT YOU NEED SOME TO KEEP ACCOUNT. YOU NEED TO KEEP, KEEP TRACK OF WHAT, WHO WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE ALL THE ARTWORK FOR THOSE TICKETS. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CHANGE THE COLOR. CHANGE THE COLOR. YOU MENTIONED THE CHIPPER. YES, DON. WE HAVE ONE OR TWO NOW YOU HAVE ONE. DUNNO IF YOU SOLVED IT. DID YOU SELL IT? YOU WERE GONNA SORT IT. IT'S REALLY BIG TUB. THE TUB GRINDER STILL HAVE IT. YOU STILL HAVE IT. THE BUT IT'S REAL, IT'S REALLY OBSOLETE. SO I THINK HE WANTS SHOW, CORRECT? YES. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING A NEW MODERN POSSIBLY. YEAH, WE CAN, IF WE CAN JUSTIFY IT THROUGH SOME THE COMPOSTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT COMMISSIONER, IS THAT THE SAME MACHINE YOU USED RIGHT THERE? IT WAS USED, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT AND IT'S DANGEROUS. IT WOULD THROW STUFF, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO EVEN USE IT FOR SKIT, FOR PALLETS FOR THE BUSINESSES. WE WERE TRYING TO GET THAT, UH, UNORGANIZED AND AS SOON AS THE COMPANY SAW THAT IT WOULD THROW THINGS OUT, THEY SAID, NO WAY. THAT'S TOO DANGEROUS. SO IT REALLY, IT'S BEEN OVER EIGHT YEARS. SEVEN YEARS IS THE TIME LIMIT FOR ANY EQUIPMENT. IT WAS ACTUALLY A TRUE BACKFIRE, HUH? IT IT, WELL IT WILL BUT IT WAS A GRANT THOUGH, WASN'T IT? IT DIDN'T COST US ANYTHING. NO, IT WAS A GRANT. YEAH, BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, I JUST WONDERED IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USEFUL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T ASKED FOR, FOR QUITE A WHILE. YEAH, BUT THOSE PLACES SAID THOSE WE ALREADY DANGEROUS. WE YOU USE IT. SO IF, IF MS. MAY COULD GET A, IT WOULD BE TALKED MAY [00:40:01] SAID, RIGHT. WE GOT, WE GOT SOMETHING FROM THE COPS. THEY SAID IT WAS, IT WAS FINE. JUST SELL. IT'S A WAY THAT WE CAN GET ANOTHER BENEFICIAL EMPLOYEES TO ALRIGHT, I'LL TALK TO YOU BECAUSE JUST START THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO. WE, WE HAVE TO TIE IT IN WITH SOME KIND OF EDUCATIONAL THING. SO WE'LL, WE'LL TIE IT IN. WITHING, YOU'LL, UH, NEXT HOW YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US FOR DECEMBER? YES SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. BE ON MY DESK THIS WEEK. MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. MOTION. CARRIE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAPPOINTING. TODD RE RE RE AND AND JOHN DABS. DABS COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN. WHO NUMBER SEVEN. Y'ALL. COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES THE MOTION COMMISSIONER IT ON MOTION CARRIES. AND THEY HAVE ALSO FILED THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTS. COMMISSIONER CARTER SECOND. MR. CARTER MAKES THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT. AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, COMMISSIONER SECOND IT DISCUSSION IN, UH, ESD NUMBER SEVEN FOR BEING THE FIRST AND TO GIVE ALL THIS INFORMATION BACK IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE ABOUT JANUARY OF EVERY YEAR. I WISH ALL WOULD DO THE SAME THING. I THINK YOU GOT ONE THAN SUBMITTING ANYTHING AT ALL. BUT CHUCK, Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB GETTING THIS TO US AND TELL OTHER GUYS SAME THING. OKAY. THAT WAS, WAS, SEEMED LIKE LAST YEAR, BUT THEY JUST TURNED, NEVER DONE IT IN THE PAST AND IT TO ATTENTION LAST YEAR. AND UNDERSTANDING SAYS WE HAVE TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE BOARD. I THINK, UH, I THINK SO. I THINK WE'VE TO WITH THE IDEA OF, UH, PASSING RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING MR. MURPHY TO HOLD ONTO THE MONEY UNTIL THEY WERE CRU, UH, DID WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? UH, MR. CLARK MAKES A MOTION AND MR. SECOND IT TO ACCEPT THEIR FINANCIAL. CARRIE. OKAY, MR. BROWN, YOU SAY YOU WANT, I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE. I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE. UH, NEXT ITEM. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ORDERING A LOCAL OPTION ELECTION FOR LEGAL SALE OF ALL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ALL PREMISES CONSUMPTION FOR JP PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PETITION CIRCULATED LAST FALL, WHICH DID NOT HAVE THE REC REQUIRED SIGNATURES. UH, AND NOW THEY'VE CIRCULATED AGAIN WITH THE AMOUNT REQUIRED SIGNATURES. AND I THINK WE HAVE, IT'S NOT A DISCRETIONARY MATTER. THE STATUTE SAYS IF WE'RE PRESENTED WITH IT, YOU MUST ORDER THE ELECTION. NO, COMMISSIONER, I THINK MR. MURPHY SAYS THAT, UH, THEY DO HAVE THE REQUIRED AMOUNT. THEY [00:45:01] TRIED BEFORE AND THEY, THEY DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT. SO NOW THEY DO. SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION JUDGE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER S SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? YES SIR. ONE QUESTION. , I WOULD GIVE YOUR, YOUR QUESTION BY ANSWER MAY THAT IS JUST A A VOTING PRECINCT, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT PRECINCT ONE. NO, THAT'S FINE. THAT'S JUST THAT VOTING PRECINCT OUT THERE. NO, IT'S JP PRECINCT. THAT'S THE WHOLE PRECINCT. THAT'S ALL PRECINCT ONE. YEAH. OKAY. IT'S NOT JUST THE VOTING, IT'S ALL PRECINCT. ALRIGHT, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. WHEN PRECINCT LINES CHANGE, UH, AT THIS NEXT CENSUS WILL THE ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. WHAT HAPPENS? IT'S THE AREA. IT'S THE AREA THAT, IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF PRECINCT LINES CHANGE AND PRECINCT NUMBER ONE SAY THIS VOTE PASSES AND PRECINCT NUMBER ONE GOES OUT TO GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF EIGHT. OH, THE MARKET IS IN THE PRECINCT. WHEN THE VOTE IS TAKEN REMAINS. IF THEY WANT THE NEW PART TO BE WET, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A NEW ELECTION. THEY'LL GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS SAME THING AGAIN. RIGHT? SEE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN KAUFMAN WHEN WHEN UH, WALMART SAID, WELL WE'RE NOT COVERED UNLESS THAT AREA IS WET. WELL, WHEN KAUFMAN ANNEXED, THEY DIDN'T ANNEX UH, AS YOU WERE, THEY HAD THE WET DRY ELECTION, IT PASSED AND THEN AFTERWARDS THEY ANNEXED THAT PROPERTY OUT THERE. SO THEY COULDN'T SELL ALCOHOL OUT THERE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS IN THE CITY LIMITS. SO IT WAS THE PART THAT'S, THAT'S IN EXISTENCE OF LOCATION. SO THEY HAD TO HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION JUST FOR THAT AREA YOU HAVE JUST FOR THAT AREA. DOES IT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE PRECINCT AT THAT TIME? NO, JUST THAT AREA. JUST THAT AREA. THE ONLY MOTOR EXPAND FAR. YEAH. GREG, IF I WRONG, I THINK YEAH, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE DOING IT FOR GEOGRAPHIC AREA. YES. AND, AND UH, BUT YOU RAISED A GOOD POINT. I MEAN WITH REDISTRICTING, ASSUMING LINES CHANGE OR MOVE AND THEN THEY CAN FACE A PROBLEM. THAT COULD BE A BUNCH OF OTHER PROBLEMS AND ISSUES THAT WITH BUT THAT WOULD BE THEIR PROBLEM. THAT THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM. YEAH, BUT BUT IT WOULDN'T EXPAND. IT WOULDN'T EXPAND SELL WITHOUT ALCOHOL BEVERAGES INTO A NEW AREA WITHOUT TO GO INTO. THAT'S A JP ONE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER. YEAH, WELL SEE. NOT ALL IN ALL COUNTIES. THE JP PRECINCT AND COMMISSIONER'S PRECINCT ARE THE SITE. RIGHT. HENDERSON COUNTY GOT FIVE OR SIX. RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. AND SEE THERE'S CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A FIFTH JP BUT IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE COMMISSIONERS. SO, SO YOUR JP LINES NOW HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, THEY'RE THE SAME BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT WAY ACROSS THE STATE. YEAH, THIS IS THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE PRECINCT AHEAD. OKAY. I'VE MADE THE MOTION. YEAH, I SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON COUNTY. NEXT ITEM NOW. YES SIR. LINE ITEMS A COUPLE THIS MORNING. CONTROL AREA, INCREASE SECTION FOR HELP. $5,000 COMMUNICATIONS AND COMPUTER AREA INCREASED GSA DISPATCH SOFTWARE. 57,006 18 CONDUCTION SOFTWARE. [00:50:02] WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT OUR NEW COACH? I'M UNSURE. I GET EXCITED. YEAH. HEARD THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER? WE TAKE MOTION OF APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, BY MR. JACKSON. ALL IN MOTION. CARRIED. AND I GUESS WE HAVE A YES SIR. WE AN HOUR OR MAKE SURE THAT'S FRIDAY AND WE DON'T MEET NEXT. HAVE YOUR CARD OR EMAIL ADDRESS. I'M IT. OKAY. THINK YOU DO TOO. THERE IT IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BARBARA. I HOPE SOME, I JUST TURNED IT OVER TO THIS MORNING. SOMETHING QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE WHAT NOW? UHHUH? YEAH. PAUSE. OH GOT I DIDN'T ORDER A COMPUTER. WELL I TELL YOU WHAT, IF IT'S OFF THAT LONG, LIKE Y'ALL BEEN OFF THAT LONG, IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM PUT. IT'S NOT JUST A LITTLE BIT PROBLEM. OH [00:55:01] I WANNA BE WORRIED ABOUT THE HORSES. I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT ME TO WORRY ABOUT. OH I KNOW, BUT STILL I WON'T WORRY ABOUT ME. I GOTTA GO. I'LL SEE. CAN'T GIVE BOTTLE OF WATER. WON'T SEE YOU FOR TWO WEEKS SO GOOD LUCK. LET US KNOW HOW YOU DO. I'M ASSUMING YOU PROBABLY THE WRONG WAY. YOU WHERE COMPUTER WENT? SORRY? THE COMPUTER. DID YOU FIND OUT WHERE IT WENT? UM, DONATED IT SOMEWHERE. OH I DID CHARGE HIM IT HERE. YOU DON'T SIGN. THAT'S WHO IT IS. THEY DID HAVE TO DO SO, BUT I THINK IT WAS SO THAT SHE COULD DO SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS COME OUT CHAPTER. I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE YOU THE MONEY, YOU KNOW IF THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. YOU THINK SO? DO YOU NEED THAT? WE FOUND OUT. HOWEVER, THAT'S IF HEY JACK, YES SIR. DID UH, IF YOU DON'T GET A REFUND, THE COMPUTERS IT SO THAT SHE CAN DO THE WORK THEN THAT COMPUTER THAT ONLY HALF OF THEM. SO WE GO GUYS, IT'S GOTTA GO CHAPTER WAY. TRYING TO THINK [01:00:01] YOU BEING STYMIED, YOU KNOW WATCH, I TURNED IT ON A WHILE SO FAR I TURNED IT OFF. THAT'S WHAT I DID. 45 POINTS, 38 POINTS. SO WHAT WAS THE END RESULT? UH, WENT IN OVERTIME AND UH, I THINK THE UH, THE CARDINAL SCORE AGAIN, THE FOURTH OF ALL TIME. I DON'T SUPPOSE ANY OF Y'ALL SAW THAT THEY GAVE YOU 1 45 LAST THURSDAY NIGHT THAT WENT INTO DOUBLE OVERTIME. YES, THAT WAS A GOOD GAME. I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD BEFORE. TROY, MICHIGAN AND I DIDN'T CARE WHO BECAUSE I'VE HEARD OF THEM BUT BUNCH OF UT SUPPORTERS. YEAH, BUT THAT'S, I MEAN IT SURPRIS ALL THESE GUYS YOU KNOW GOT OID LICENSE PLATE TV IS OVER ABOUT THE COST OF JUVENILE DETENTION. I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT MAKING ONE OVER THERE AND THE REQUIREMENTS ARE SO WE EVEN TRIED TO REMEMBER, REMEMBER AT THE TIME JIM MIGHT, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE BUILT, WE TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE OLD FACILITY AND GETTING UH, ALL THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES TO GO WITH US AND MAKE THAT A JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY. BUT THE COST OF RENOVATING IT FOR A JUVENILE DETENTION, UNBELIEVABLE. JUST COULDN'T DO IT. IT CAN'T LOOK LIKE A JAIL. IT'S GOTTA LOOK LIKE A HOUSE. SO MANY REQUIREMENTS. OH REALLY? OH YEAH, IT WAS BAD. AND THE SUPERVISION. SURE. HOW'S YOUR COMING? LOOKS GOOD. JUST TALKED ABOUT MARYANNE. DOES ANGIE DO SOMETHING WITH THEM BEFORE SHE GIVES THEM TO YOU? JUST SIGN 'EM AND THEN GIVES THEM TO YOU AND THEN Y'ALL GET SEND THEM. WE CAN PROBABLY WAIT UNTIL, WELL THAT'D BE FINE IF YOU WANNA BACK FOUR OR FIVE OF THE GIRLS DOWN THERE AT COURTHOUSE CAME INTO MY OFFICE AND SAID, WHAT COMMISSIONERS DO YOU JUST CUT OUR PAY BY 2% OR NOTHING? WHY? WELL, I'M DOWN ABOUT EIGHT, $9 MY PAYCHECK. I SAID THANK, THANK THE GOVERNMENT. THEY JUST CHECKED THE RATE UP JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT CARD. A LITTLE MORE. YOUR TAXES YEAH. WAS DOWN SEVEN. YEAH, I WAS OUT THE OTHER DAY ON A ROAD LOOKING AT A COVER AND THIS LADY STOPPED [01:05:01] SAID, SIR, ARE YOU LOST? I COVER SAID I WAS JUST CURIOUS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I SAID, WELL I'M YOUR COMMISSIONER. AND SHE SAID, SO SHE WAS VERY IMPRESSED. THERE WAS A LETTER TO THE EDITOR GOING NEWS WAS, I DUNNO IF IT WAS A WEEK AGO, SUNDAY OR MONDAY, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW ACTUALLY LEE WAS PRETTY SMART BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET OUTTA HIS CONTRACT AND ALL THESE OTHER JOBS WERE OPENING UP AND HE WAS STUCK THERE KNOWING HE COULD GET MORE MONEY. ONE OF THESE OTHER JOBS PROBABLY. AND HE WAS STUCK AND THAT THIS WAS ALL A PLOY TO GET HIMSELF FIRED. HE COULD GO TO ONE OF THESE OTHER JOBS. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT PLAYS OUT. I THOSE EMAILS BETWEEN THE BOOSTER IN DALLAS AND A TEAM CAN PLAY SOME 24, 25, 24, 28, SO MANY 20 WOULD COME OUT. ALL MY STUFF FOR WE, WE CAN'T OPEN OUR DOORS. THAT IS HIS, THAT BIG SCREEN PLASMA. 10 80 P WAS THINK NOW THEY'LL COME OUT AND SAY THESE THINGS SUCK SO MUCH CURRENT OF IT. . IT'S EMOTIONAL NOW. THEY TELL YOU. RIGHT. CONSUMING. YEAH. TURN IT FOR FIVE MINUTES. YOU KNOW WE VACATION ON SUNDAY MORNINGS WHEN WE GO TO CHURCH. ALWAYS LEAVE THE TV ON TURNED UP, YOU KNOW, IN CASE SOMEBODY COME YESTERDAY MORNING OFF, OFF. I SAID WE GOOD. SHE SAID THOSE THINGS COST TOO MUCH ELECTRICITY. ? YEAH. OH YES. WE UH, TO THE, THAT'S IN, THERE'S, [01:10:16] IF YOU, IF YOU'RE IN A IT KIND KIND LIKE SCENARIO, GET A LAWYER'S CAR AND THE SECOND WE SCENARIO GET A THE WHAT? YOU SEND ME AN EMAIL? UH, ONLY IF WE HAVE DON'T GET TOLD. YEAH. WELL AND ALSO MY DOG, YOU KNOW MY DOG HAD HAD, HE WAS IN TRUMP. WHO? DUKE MY BIG LAUGH. HE WAS IN THE BACKSEAT. OH WAS HE REALLY? HE GOT STRIP ALL AROUND. HE DIDN'T, HE TURNED OVER, WE MADE THREE AND THIS GUY HIS OH, I KNOW WHERE IS YEAH, HE LIVES ON THE END OF IT. 72, 72 POUND LANE. OH YEAH. AND THAT'S ABOUT ONE MILE LONG OR MILE AND A HALF. AND HE, SO ANYWAY, THEY WERE DRIVING AS FAST AS THEY COULD AND KID CAME OUT AND WE JUST, HE HE WAS IN THE FRONT OF SO WE MISSED HIM AND WE THOUGHT HE WAS FIXING TO START FLIPPING BECAUSE HE WAS GOING SO FAST THAT HE SKIDDED AND STARTED SKIDDING SIDEWAYS BUT HIT THE MUD. THE MUD KEPT HIM FROM FLIPPING OVER. IT WAS OKAY IF WE DODGED THAT. BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT, HERE'S THIS OTHER GUY CHASING IT AND LIKE, AND THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO HE HIT THE PICKUP ON THE PASSENGER SIDE SECOND DOOR, CREAMED THAT WHOLE SIDE. UH, WHEN THE WRECK, MAN PUT IT ON THE RECORD, TWO FRONT WHEELS WERE UP THERE WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REAR WERE OVER HERE, UP FRAME, FRAME SHAFT WAS HANGING DOWN. AXLE OR TWIST. AND THEN OF COURSE COPPER JUST KEPT COPPER ON IT. IT ENDED UP 20 YARDS DOWN WHERE HE HIT HIT YOU. HELL, ALL HE DID, HE, HE WAS DOING ABOUT 60 TO 70. JASON BEEN IN A BAD WRECK LIKE THAT. MARYANNE WASN'T ME. , MARYANNE CAN TELL ABOUT IT WASN'T ME. YOU'RE COMMITTMENT. I SHAKE HIS HAND A MINUTE. CAN HE BORROW YOU? THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. JERRY. HIS ROAD HADN'T BEEN SO GOOD. HE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN DRIVING . THAT'S RIGHT. HE'D BEEN AT FOUR. HE HAD ALL BEEN GOING FOR . FIRST THING HE DID, HE CAME RUNNING. [01:15:01] MY BROTHER GOT OUT. OF COURSE WE TALKED TO EACH OTHER. OKAY. UH, SO HE SAID LET'S CALL 9 1 1. SO I CALLED 9 1 1 AND HE GOT DOWN. HE SAID, I'M GONNA GO SEE IF ANYBODY'S HURT. AND I SAID NO. I SAID IF THAT GUY'S CHASING THAT DOOR, THEY MAY START SHOOTING ANY MINUTE. AND I I REALLY THOUGHT, I MEAN HE WAS CHASING FOR SOME REASON AND NOT KNOWING THE REASON. I FIGURED IT WAS GONNA BE SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER. I THINK I KNOW WHO THEY'RE, THEY LIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN ON THE END. THEY GOT A SON THAT'S, UH, 70 18. THE SON IS DRIVING THE FIRST CAR STICK AROUND. YEAH. DID HE? YEAH, BECAUSE HE WAS STUCK IN THE MUD AND HE HAD NO CHOICE GUY. I DON'T SEE HOW IT KEPT HIM BECAUSE HIS, HIS TRUCK WAS JUST LIKE, OF COURSE 16 FOOT FLAT TRAILER I PIECES. YEAH I MET HIM. HE JUST, ANYWAY, HE GOT OUT AND THEN TODD ASKED HIM IF HE'S OKAY AND I TOLD 9 1 1, WE DON'T NEED AN AMBULANCE. BUT THE GUY CAME RUNNING OVER TO ME AND SAID, I GOT INSURANCE. I GOT INSURANCE. I JUST LOOKED AT HIM. I COULDN'T SAY A WORD. I WAS SO MAD. I WAS SO MAD THAT THE GUY WOULD KEEP ACTING STUPID LIKE THAT. YEAH. HAD INSURANCE HE HAD UNTIL DECEMBER 11TH. MR. CLARK MAKES THE MOTION, MR. BROWN SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A. OKAY, NEXT WEEK'S A HOLIDAY SO WE WON'T BE HERE. UM, SEE Y'ALL IN TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY UNLESS SOMETHING COMES UP THAT WE CALL YOU IN. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UH, Y'ALL DECIDED WHO'S GOING? I SIGNED UP TO GO BECAUSE I GOT MORE COURSE TO GET DEGREE. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT POOL. I THINK I MAY. ARE YOU GOING? I THINK I'LL GO. WE OKAY GUYS? UH, I HAVE A MOTION ADJOURN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED. COMMISSIONER MAKES MOTION ADJOURN. COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECONDED ALL BUT THAT WAS CONVERSATION. NOT RIGHT NOW. [01:21:23] WEEKS WEEKEND HAVE ONE OR TWO OR THREE SAYS THAT AFTER YOU WALK, BEFORE YOU GO WALKING OR DURING WALK CLEAR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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