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I ASK MR. JACKSON PEOPLE, FATHER, WE ASKED IF, LOOK DOWN AND BLESS THIS COMMISSION COURT, BLESS THE GENTLEMAN TO ON THE COMMISSION COURT, BLESS THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE HERE TODAY.
WE THAT PROTECTED MY ALL THIS WE ASKED MY SON IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, WHEN HE WAS SCHEDULED FOR SURGERY ABOUT TWO HOURS AGO.
SO, ALLEGIANCE TO THE PRIDE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPOSITORY STANDS OF ONE NATION OF UNDER AN INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR HONOR, HONOR, I ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVIDUAL.
I PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
FIRST ITEM ON OUR LIST IS, UH, BRIAN MORRIS TO PRESENT CONSTABLE'S, UH, RATIO PROFILE AND REPORT FOR PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
GOOD MORNING, DR. GOOD MORNING.
UH, I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
UH, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS FILED TOWARDS YOUR OFFICE AS A RESULT OF ANY RACIAL PROFILING FROM DEFENDING RACIAL PROFILING COMPLAINTS AGAINST YOU OR YOUR OFFICE? NO, SIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GUYS? I MAKE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BELLA TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAIR? AYE.
I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF HARD WORK AND YES, SIR.
AND, AND A GOOD THING TO PUT TOGETHER AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T, HADN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS, THAT'S ALL WE'RE INTERESTED IN.
AND THIS, THIS RULE WILL BE ON FILE, BY THE WAY.
I MEAN, IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO LOOK AT IT, THEY'RE WELCOME TO COME IN AND SEE IT.
FIRST, UH, NEXT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS, IS KATHY MORRIS, AND WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND THEN LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS TRAUMA REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL TO INSTALL VIDEO TELECONFERENCING EQUIPMENT AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE.
WE WERE, BUT I LIKE TO TABLE IT UNTIL THE 22ND.
UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES COME UP WITH IT.
THE, THE RACK IS GIVING THESE VIDEO CONFERENCE EQUIPMENT TO ALL THE COUNTIES, BUT THERE'S BEEN A, AN ISSUE WITH IT WITH A COUPLE OTHER COUNTIES AND THEY'VE REJECTED IT.
AND I JUST TALKED TO GEORGE AND HE SAID HE HASN'T HAD A CHANCE YET TO LOOK OVER IT.
AND I'D LIKE HIM TO LOOK OVER THE IT PART OF IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY CONFLICT BEFORE WE ACCEPT IT.
SO I'D LIKE THE TABLE 2020 SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TABLE THAT ITEM UNTIL THE 22ND OF FEBRUARY.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN THURSDAY? AYE.
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YOU.UH, CONSIDER ADVERTISING A BID TO PURCHASE A USED ROLL FOR PRECINCT NUMBER ONE.
UH, PRECINCT, UH, ONE HAS A QUESTION.
WE PURCHASE A ROLLER AND I'M AT THE PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, CLOSE ON THE BIDS ON FEBRUARY THE 26TH.
UH, IT'S FRIDAY AT 2:00 PM AND OPEN AT 2:30 PM AND THAT WOULD BE AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS COMMISSIONER ROUNDS.
I'M SORRY, WHO WAS IT? FIRST? COMMISSIONER CLARK.
AND THEN MR. JACKSON, HE FELT OBLIGATED SINCE HE SAID NO.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, HE'S PLANNING ON GETTING HIS MONEY TOO, SO HE'S GONNA MISS TWO OR THREE MEETINGS, SO HE'S GONNA BE IN TROUBLE WHEN HE GETS BACK.
CONSIDER ACTION TO BE TAKEN REGARDING CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION REGARDING DANNY RAY MILLER.
THAT WAS, UH, WE HAD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION LAST WEEK, UH, WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND WE FAILED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA TO TAKE ACTION.
UH, I'VE SLIPPED SINCE THEN, BUT AS I RECALL, UH, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO YES, SHERIFF.
UH, I WAS, THAT WAS A COMPLAINT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WAS FILED WHERE WE MADE ACCIDENT IMPRO ARREST SOMEBODY IN JAIL.
AND I REALLY, WHAT I NEED IS THAT TO BE DECLARED A LEGAL DEBT THAT I, I CAN TAKE CARE OF IT COME OUT BUDGET.
I, IF Y'ALL WILL DECLARE THAT UP BECAUSE LEGAL DEBT, I THINK I CAN DO THAT.
WE WERE GONNA AUTHORIZE JOHN TO FINISH NEGOTIATING NEGOTIATION, NEGOTIATE THAT, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.
I WAS THINKING THAT'S WHAT WE YEAH.
MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO NEGOTIATE A SETTLE.
UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY IN THIS MATTER IN THE DANNY RAY MILLER MATTER TO PURSUE, UH, UH, AND SETTLE THAT CASE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TELLER.
UH, SHERIFF, THAT'S JOHN, UH, WILL BE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
HE'S GONNA BE LATE THIS MORNING, BUT WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM AND LET HIM FINALIZE THAT.
HIM DISCUSSING, CONSIDER CLARIFYING THE MONETARY LIMIT OF LINE ITEM TRANSFERS, WHICH DO NOT NEED COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRIOR APPROVAL.
YOU GOT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THERE? YES, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO COMMISSIONER CLARK ABOUT THAT.
AND UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, IS LIKE A THOUSAND DOLLAR LIMIT CUMULATIVE FOR THE YEAR FOR LINE ITEMS. SO THERE'S A LITTLE, A LITTLE STUFF GO THROUGH.
YOU CAN PROVE IT AT THAT POINT.
I MEAN, I WAS FINE WITH THAT FROM, BECAUSE WHAT IT WAS, EVERYTHING HAD TO BE APPROVED AND DOWN AND HOW RECOMMENDATION WAS, WE COULD STILL KEEP TRACK OF THINGS.
THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, PER LINE, NOT PER OCCURRENCE.
SO THAT THERE'S STILL SOME DOLLARS OFF ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
I LOOKED AT YOU TO SEE IF YOU WERE GONNA MAKE THAT.
I WASN'T LOOKING FOR AN EXPLANATION.
BUT THIS PROBABLY WON'T BE A PROBLEM UNTIL LATER IN THE BUDGET.
COMMISSIONER CLERK MAKES A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER DOUBLE SECONDS IT.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OBJECTION.
AND, AND THAT IS, UH, AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, NOT IN A BUDGET AND THE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO BUY THAT.
DOES THAT GIVE THE OFFER AUTHORITY TO NOTIFY ME THAT, THAT THE FUNDS WILL BE TRANSFERRED? SO LIKE A MAKE PURCHASE, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE TO YOU? YOU KNOW, HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WELL, IF I COULD READ ISSUE PO FOR INSTANCE, IN MY
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SYSTEM, UH, I GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM ON THE SOFTWARE AND IT COMES UP, SAYS, UH, EXCEEDS FUNDS AVAILABLE MM-HMM.UH, DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO, TO ISSUE A PERSONAL ORDER AT THAT POINT.
WOULD YOU, UH, SEND ME SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT MONEY? I WOULD THINK SO.
AS LONG AS WE HAVEN'T HADN'T ALREADY ACCUMULATED, YOU KNOW, $300 IN THAT LINE.
SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY, I WOULD THINK.
YEAH, I WOULD THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOU ANYWAY.
I I WOULD JUST NEED SOMEONE TELL ME THAT THE MUST HAVE MONEY'S THERE.
THAT BEFORE NEEDS TO BE THERE BEFORE IT'S AUTHORIZED.
CONSIDER PROVING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR THE TEXAS HEAVY DUTY VEHICLE IDLING GROUP.
UH, THAT'S, UH, BEEN KIND OF A SORE SPOT ACROSS THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS AREA.
MR. CLARK, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT? AND YES, OF COURSE.
Y'ALL LIKE SAY I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT IN FAVOR OF THIS I I ROAD BECAUSE IT'LL REDUCE THE POLLUTION THAT WE'VE GOT HERE IN LAW TEXAS.
AND THEY'LL ALSO, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING BETTER POLLUTION, THE NEXT STEP THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO KEEP US PRODUCING FEDERAL HIGHWAY FUNDS IS PUT SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON WHEN WE CAN OPERATE AND YOU CAN'T OPERATE.
AND IF YOU HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING ROAD FIXED NOW, WAIT UNTIL YOU CAN'T START THAT DIESEL WATER UP UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
YOU GOTTA QUIT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
YOU TRIED THAT HERE AND THEY WAS GONNA DO THAT FEW YEARS AGO, WASN'T IT? IT'S, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE OUT OF TAINMENT RIGHT NOW, SO WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
DID, DID JC DID YOU PASS THAT INFORMATION ON LATER ON TO JIM ELLI COUNTY? UH, INFORMED ME SEVERAL.
WE, I THINK WE PASSED THE MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT.
IF WE, IF WE'VE DONE THAT, WE'RE ALL RIGHT.
YES WE DID WITH TCE Q BUT THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT WE, THAT WE COULD NOT PAY.
WE DON'T HAVE ORDINANCE MAKING ABILITIES.
BUT IF THE LETTER YOU'LL SEE RIGHT THERE FROM COUNCIL
AND, UH, I WAS WANTING TO GET THAT TO JOHN THIS MORNING, BUT I JUST RECEIVED THAT THIS MORNING.
HE TOLD ME, KEN TOLD ME THIS OVER THE PHONE THAT DAY AND ASKED HIM, GIVE IT, GIVE IT TO ME IN WRITING KEN, UH, KIRKPATRICK, WHICH IS A LAWYER WITH COUNCIL GOVERNMENT AND HIS OPINION IS WE DO HAVE THAT.
EVERYBODY KIND AGREES WITH THAT.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, GIVE IT BEEN A PLAN.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT TCEQ GRANTED AS THIS AUTHORITY THROUGH THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THE T-C-E-Q-T-C-Q HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THESE ITEMS. RESTRICTIONS.
SEE AC ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE NOT GRANTING IT AS A COUNTY ORDINANCE OR A COUNTY.
ALL WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WE ARE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH TCEQ FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT LAW IN KAMAN COUNTY.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? WELL, I THINK WE WORKED, WE DID THAT WITH THE FIRST AGREEMENT.
RIGHT? THAT, THAT, THAT, AND THEY, THEY GAVE US THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE US FOR A WEEK.
MAKE SURE JOHN SAID THAT HE WAS IN COURT THIS MORNING, BUT HE WOULD TRY TO MAKE IT AS SOON AS HE COULD TO THIS COURT IF YOU WANTED THE TABLE IT AND SEE IF HE DOES MAKE IT.
YEAH, LET'S JUST BYPASS IT FOR NOW AND COME BACK TO IT WHEN JOHN GETS HERE.
BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY, ANY PROBLEM WITH IT AND, UH, TO ACCEPT THE GUIDELINES.
GUIDELINES RIGHT BEFORE WE ABLE TO ENFORCE I SEE.
WHAT WE'RE GIVEN THE SHERIFF AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE IT HIMSELF WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL THAT THE STATEMENT.
YEAH, I CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH.
AND NOT MAKE A, MAKE A DECISION.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS? WHO'S GONNA ENFORCE IT? WELL, SEE, THAT'S YOUR QUESTION.
THE STATE, ANY STATE OFFICER WOULD'VE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE IT AS IT IS NOW.
WELL, I I I READ THIS, BUT THAT, ARE WE EXPECTING THAT THE SHERIFF, UH, TO RUN AROUND ON ALL OF OUR ROADS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ON ISLAND? I MEAN, I WOULDN'T THINK SO.
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IF THERE'S A DEPUTY THAT PULLS UP TO, UH, VALERO ANDRO TO GET SOME GASOLINE, YOU GOT ABOUT FIVE DECENT TRUCKS OUT THERE THAT ARE SITTING THEIR ISLAND AND GUYS IN THE BED SLEEPING TRUCK, A TRUCK STOP.SOMEBODY WARMING THEIR, UH, THEIR TRUCK UP.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF MECHANISMS IN THAT THAT ARE LEGAL.
I SAID THE PUBLIC CAN REPORT VIOLATIONS OR SUSPECTED VIOLATIONS BY CALLING THIS NUMBER.
I GET CALLS ON MY BACKSTROKES EVERY DAY.
IF THEY STAND IN ONE PLACE MORE THAN 10 MINUTES.
THEY JUST WANT, THERE'S A LAST, THERE'S LAST FOUR, UH, ROAD SAFETY EQUIPMENT TO, TO KEEP RUNNING ON T CQ GUIDELINES, SCHOOL BUSES, UH, IF FOR THE PURPOSE OF HEATING OR COOLING THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T DO UNDER TQ GUIDELINES.
SO I SUPPOSE THAT WE ADOPT THIS AND GIVE THE SHERIFF OR THE CONSTABLE AUTHORITY TO, TO ENFORCE, THEN WE'VE TO GO THROUGH A TRAINING OF WHAT YOU CAN DO, WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.
IT SAYS YOU HAVE A TRAINING ON TRAINING PROGRAM.
AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC EDUCATION TYPE PROCESS.
SO YOU TELL THEM WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE FINE OR WHAT IS THE PUNISHMENT IF YOU'RE CAUGHT OUT? IT UH, WE DEFINITELY TQ, IT'S IN THAT TCQ REGULATION.
WHAT SCARES ME IS, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WHEN THEY COME OUT WITH THE TRANS TEXAS COURT, I THOUGHT IT SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
AND THEN I READ THE LEGISLATION AND I SAID, WHOA, PROPERTY RIGHTS PERSON JUST DON'T LIKE THIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT'S GONNA COST MORE THAN IT COMES TO.
WELL, I DON'T WANT PUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN A POSITION WHERE THERE COURSE ANYBODY OUT THERE SOMEWHERE IS EXPECTING THEM TO ENFORCE THIS.
UH, I HAVE TO AGREE THAT IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR ERROR, IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH IN THE FUTURE.
BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE STATE WANTS THIS ENFORCED, THEN LET THE STATE SEND SOME PEOPLE IN.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT, THAT NEXT YEAR WITH THEIR 12 BILLION DEFICIT, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING TO DROP THE COUNTIES.
SO I'D ENTERTAIN MOTION TO TABLE THAT FOR NOW.
ACTUALLY, WE'RE JUST, YOU GONNA BE HERE WHEN JOHN GETS HERE.
WHO MIGHT BE COMMISSIONER JACKSON MADE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER, I THINK SECONDED.
SO WE ALL AGREED TO PASS IT UNTIL JOHN GETS HERE.
UH, JC LAUGHED, SO HE, HE REMEMBERS THAT.
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ABANDONING UNMAINTAINED EASEMENT BORDER IN COUNTY ROAD 360 9 IN KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.
UM, YOU WANNA DISCUSS THAT? YES, SIR.
JACKSON? UH, WE HAVE MS. ER YOU GONNA SPEAK ON THAT, YOUR HONOR.
I'VE LIVED IN ELMO ON COUNTY ROAD 360 9, 40 PLUS YEARS.
UH, I HAVE MAINTAINED HALF OF THIS EASEMENT FOR 40 PLUS YEARS, MEANING MOWING IT, PICKING UP THE TRASH.
UH, THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS I'VE PAID A MAN TO CLEAN IT BECAUSE IT MAKES MY PROPERTY LOOK GOOD.
UH, IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING THING BETWEEN, UH, A GENTLEMAN THAT OWNS A LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY ACROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EASEMENT THAT HE WANTS TO USE ALL THE EASEMENT AND, UH, TRASH IT UP,
AND, UH, BACK IN THE SUMMER HE MOVED IN AN OLD WINNEBAGO OVER THERE AND, UM, LET SOME NOT VERY NICE KIND OF PEOPLE MOVE IN IT AND PAY HIM RENT AND GET ON COUNTY PROPERTY.
AND I GET UPSET AND I CALLED MR. UH, JACKSON AND HE SAID, OH.
I SAID, CAN YOU DO THAT? HE SAID, WELL, I WOULDN'T THINK YOU COULD.
SO AFTER THEY FOUND OUT I WAS ON IT, THEY ASKED THE MAN TO LEAVE.
BUT THOUGH, WHEN THE BABIES STILL SIT THERE AND THE PROCESS,
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THEY TEAR OUT A BUNCH OF WOOD OUT OF IT, PILE IT UP RIGHT NEXT TO MY FENCE.UH, THEY'VE GOT TRASH CANS SITTING THERE, ALL KINDS OF OVER LUMBER.
IT'S JUST A MESS AND A SORE EYE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, HAVE IT CONDEMN AND IF THIS GENTLEMAN THAT'S USING IT ALREADY WANTS HIS HALF, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE FAIR.
BUT SINCE I'VE BEEN MAINTAINING HALF OF IT, PAYING SOMEBODY MOWING IT FOR 40 PLUS YEARS, I FEEL, AND IT JOINS MY FRONT OF MY FENCE AND MY FRONT OF MY HOUSE, AND I HAVE A CUSTOM BUILT BRICK HOMES THAT I LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
I'D LIKE TO KEEP MY PROPERTY VALUE UP AND ALSO MAINTAIN THE LOOKS OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY.
AND THAT IS A SORE EYE FOR ANYBODY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET IT CONDEMNED AND HIM HAVE HIS PATH.
AND I'LL TAKE MY HAT AND CONTINUE CLEANING IT IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
SO IT'S BEEN MORE THAN YOU KNOW YOURSELF PERSONALLY, IT'S BEEN MORE THAN 40 YEARS SINCE THE COUNTY'S PUT ANY EQUIPMENT ON THAT.
I, UM, MAXINE GAR, BLESS HER HEART, SHE KNOWS I'VE BATTLED THIS, KEEPING HIM FROM DRIVING 18 WHEELERS OVER IT TO KEEP ME FROM MOWING IT AND STICKING 'EM.
AND HE WAS WRITTEN A LETTER BY MAXINE 20 YEARS AGO TO KEEP IT NICE BECAUSE IT WAS RESPECTFUL THAT I HAD MAINTAINED IT.
AND OUT OF RESPECT, YOU KNOW, HE SHOULD COOPERATE, BUT IT'S LIKE HE DOESN'T HEAR, HE THINKS IT'S HIS PROPERTY.
AND UH, JUST THIS WEEK THERE WAS SOME OLD GUYS OUT THERE CUTTING WOOD AND STUFF, AND I WALKED OUT AND ASKED THEM WHAT, WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND THEY SAID THEY WERE CUTTING DOWN TREES ON COUNTY PROPERTY.
I SAID, DO YOU HAVE PERMISSION TO DO THAT? YES MA'AM.
I SAID, WHO GAVE YOU THE PERMISSION? THIS SAME MAN THAT'S, I GUESS HE THINKS HE OWNS IT.
AND I SAID, WELL, HE DOESN'T OWN THAT.
AND UH, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT WAS THERE THOUGHT HE KNEW ME.
AND WHEN HE TOLD ME WHO HE WAS, I KNEW HIS NAME BECAUSE HE'S BEEN IN AND OUT OF THE SYSTEM OF FOR STEALING.
AND, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF ROOF WRAP THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS MAN IS TRYING TO LIVE IN THIS WINNEBAGO AND, AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CONDEMNED.
MR. JACKSON, IS THAT LISTED AS THE COUNTY ROAD ON THE COUNTY ROADMAP THAT BE APPROVED TWO YEARS AGO? UH, NO, THIS, THIS IS NOT, IT'S NOT ON THERE.
IT'S NOT ON THERE THEN IT DOESN'T BELONG THE COUNTY.
IT WAS EASEMENT NEVER WAS MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN AN EASEMENT? THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
SEE, TWO YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY FURTHER BACK FROM THAT, THE LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW SAYING, OKAY, AS OF A DATE CERTAIN, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO PUBLISH ALL OF THEIR COUNTY ROADS.
AND, AND, AND WE WENT THROUGH HERE FOR ABOUT 18 MONTHS, A PROGRAM FOR ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
AND THEN WE POSTED IN THE NEWSPAPER, LISTED ALL OF THE, THE ROADS THAT WERE GOING TO BE COUNTY ON ROADS AND, AND, UH, AND AS OF A CERTAIN DATE, THEN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT REVIEWED ALL THE MAPS AND WE REVIEWED THEM AGAIN.
AND THEN THERE WAS A DATE CERTAIN THAT WE, THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS, WILLIAMS, CALTON COUNTY, ALL OVER THE STATE OF TEXAS SAYS, OKAY, AS OF THIS DATE, THESE ARE COUNTY ROADS.
IF THEY'RE NOT LISTED ON HERE, IT'S NOT A COUNTY ROAD.
SO IF THIS ROAD 360 9 IS NOT LISTED, 360 9, NOT 360 9 IS LISTED, UH, JUDGE, LEMME EXPLAIN.
HELP MR. THIS AREA THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND PICTURE HERE.
THIS IS NOT 360 9 6 9 360 9 IS IS THE ROAD THAT GOES AROUND BEHIND OUR HOUSE.
THIS DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER OR NAME THIS WHERE YOU SEE SCRUBS AND STUFF.
THIS IS WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT, WHAT MAKES A COUNTY, WHY, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THE COUNTY OWNS THAT PROPERTY? I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S WHO WOULD OWN IT IF THE COUNTY DOESN'T OWN IT? YOU, THE PERSON, IF IT WAS ABANDONED YEARS AGO AND SAID ONE TIME IT WAS PART OF THE COUNTY ROAD, IT'S NEVER BEEN OPENED AS THE ROAD.
THEN THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PROPERTY SIDE OWN IT.
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WOULD BE ME AND THE OTHER GENTLEMAN.SO DOES HE HAVE A, RIGHT NOW, CAN'T GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE TO PUT STUFF OVER ON MY SIDE.
CAN I GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE? SO HOW DO I HANDLE THAT? IF, UH, IF YOU CAN SHOW WHERE THE COUNTY OWNS IT, THEN COMMISSIONER JACKSON MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING.
BUT I DOUBT IF COMMISSIONER JACKSON WOULD OPEN THAT ROAD UP WITH FULL MAINTENANCE.
I, I TALKED TO ONE OF THE GUY THAT WORK FOR OKAY.
IS THERE ROAD NEVER BEEN OPEN? NEVER COUNTY HAS DONE ANYTHING TO IT.
SO, SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A BIG COUNTY.
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AROUND TO.
IT IT PROBABLY BELONGS TO, I BE WOULD SAY IT TYPICALLY GOES TO CENTER ROAD, WHATEVER.
SO THE DE SAY WHO OWNS IT AND IF SOMEBODY YEARS AGO ON THE MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COUNTY PROPERTY IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.
WELL ANYBODY CAN TELL ANY ONE TIME I WAS GOING TO FIX PART OF IT.
I'M SORRY SIR, BUT THE COUNTY TOLD ME I COULDN'T FIX ANY OF IT.
THAT'S WHEN MR. AND I PULLED MY FENCE BACK TWO FOOT ON MY PROPERTY, THIS COUNTY PROPERTY AND I DIDN'T FIX IT.
FIVE, I'M NOT SAYING IT WASN'T AT THAT TIME.
I'M SAYING AS OF THREE YEARS AGO OR 18 MONTHS AGO, WHENEVER THE COUNTY APPROVED THE FINAL APPROVAL, AT THAT POINT ALL THE COUNTY ROADS WERE LISTED AND PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER.
AND WE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND SAY, OH YEAH, NO, NO, NO, THAT IS A PRIVATE ROAD OR NO, NO, THAT, THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD.
AND WE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THAT AND THEN WE FINALLY REACHED THE DATE POINT CERTAIN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE LEGISLATURE TOLD US WE HAD TO DO.
IT WASN'T THAT WE JUST WANTED TO DO IT, THE LEGISLATION, YOU, YOU SHALL DO THIS.
SO IF, IF, IF THE LANE OR WHAT YOU'RE CALLING EASEMENT IS NOT ON THAT MAP AS A COUNTY ROAD, UH, UNLESS THAT PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY DEEDED TO THE COUNTY YEARS AND YEARS AGO, UH, IT DOES.
THE COUNTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT CIVIL ENFORCEMENT, UH, NUISANCE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
BUT WE CAN'T GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE.
SO I'M SAYING LEGALLY THE COUNTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
Y'ALL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
SO IF I WALK OUT THERE AND FIX IT, MY HALF OF IT, THEN THE COUNTY'S NOT GONNA COME AND JUMP ONTO ME ABOUT IT.
I'M SURE COMMISSIONER JACKSON NOT GONNA, I WANNA SPEND A THOUSAND DOLLARS SEE, PUT UP A CHAIN LINK FENCE AGAIN OR TRY TO AND THEN BE TOLD YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
WELL YOUR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR NEIGHBOR OWNS HALF OF IT, YOU CAN'T STOP HIM FROM USING IT.
WHY HIS HALF? WELL I KNOW HIS HALF.
I, YOU KNOW, HERE AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE YOU LEGAL KEEP YOU CLEANED UP.
YEAH, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE YOU LEGAL.
I'LL JUST BE CALLING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT I GUESS BECAUSE HE'LL BE DOWN THERE MAKING US, YOU KNOW, BIG SCENE.
AND UH, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU NOBODY FROM THE COUNTY'S GONNA BE DOWN THERE MAKING A BIG SCENE WEEK.
NOBODY FROM THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
WELL, UNTIL THAT SCENE CAME IN AND SHE SAID UHUH, THAT'S SO DISRESPECTFUL FOR PEOPLE TO, TO DO THINGS RIGHT PRACTICALLY AT SOMEBODY'S FENCE LINE.
YEAH, I MEAN I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S DISRESPECTFUL AND I THINK IT'S UH, HORRENDOUS THAT A MAN CAN PARK AN OLD ABANDONED MOTOR HOME THERE NEXT TO YOUR PROPERTY.
BUT YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT OLD ABANDONED MO UH, UH, MOBILE HOMES, YOU KNOW, WITHIN 200 YARDS OF MY HOUSE AND I'VE GOT A VERY NICE CUSTOM BRICK HOME TOO.
AND THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE COUNTY FOR YEARS HAS TRIED TO GET ORDINANCE TO MAKE AN AUTHORITY TO CONTROL THINGS LIKE THIS LEGISLATURE WON'T GET WELL I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE COUNTY OWNED IT.
AND THAT'S WHY I CAME FOR YOUR HELP.
WELL, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M, I'M SORRY I'M WASTED YOUR TIME.
I'LL JUST HAVE TO TALK TO AN ATTORNEY NOW AND SEE WHAT I CAN DO.
BECAUSE I WAS IN THE DEPRESSION THAT ALL I HAD TO DO WAS COME IN AND BEG FOR HELP THROUGH THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT WAS COUNTY PROPERTY.
AND Y'ALL WOULD HELP ME, YOU KNOW, MAKE HIM REALIZE THAT HE CAN'T JUST COME OUT THERE AND TRASH UP COUNTY PROPERTY.
SO I GUESS IT'S NOT, HE SAYS IT'S NOT COUNTY PROPERTY, SO I GUESS HE TRASH IT UP.
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SHOP ON HALF OF IT.I CATCHALL WOULDN'T IT BE INDICATED? LISTEN, WOULDN'T IT BE INDICATED ON THE BE I'M SURE HEARD THESE.
IT'S ON THE MOUTH OF THE OLD MOUTH OF ELMO.
I'M SURPRISED Y'ALL DON'T HAVE WELL I HATE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT OLD MAP OF ELMO.
I GUESS IT GOT STOLEN AND BURNT ON
THAT OLD MAP OF ELMO WAS DONE BY THE RAILROAD COMPANY MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
AND IT NEVER WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY FOR APPROVAL.
THE COUNTY'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
WELL, IT, IT WAS IN THE COURTHOUSE.
WELL, I CAN, I CAN DRAFT UP ANY INSTRUMENT I, I KNOW I CAN DRAFT UP THAT I OWN YOUR PROPERTY AND, AND PUT IT OVER IN THE COURTHOUSE.
BUT IT'S IN THE COURTHOUSE AND I'M NOT ARGUING WITH YOU.
AND I APPRECIATE, I KNOW, I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE LAW WAS THAT SLACK, YOU KNOW, ABOUT PROPERTY AND LAND AND YOU KNOW, I I GUESS I'M JUST IGNORANT 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IF YOU DIDN'T OWN IT AND THE OTHER PERSON DIDN'T OWN IT AND YOU WAS LIVING IN A COMMUNITY THAT BELONGED TO THE COUNTY, YEAH.
SO IT'S JUST LAYING OUT THERE THEN THAT NOBODY ELSE.
WELL, BUT I BET IF YOU GO BACK, IF YOU GO BACK THERE, IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH THE HISTORY AND THE RECORDS, DEED RECORDS AND EVERYTHING, I BET YOU'LL FIND OUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME THERE WAS A DEED TO THAT PROPERTY DESCRIBED TO THE CENTER OF THAT EASEMENT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT TOLD US WHEN WE BOUGHT THAT.
SAID ACTUALLY, UH, YOUR PROPERTY EXTENDS OUT WAY OUT HERE AND THAT I WOULDN'T FIX, BUT JUST WHERE IT SAYS YOUR LOTS THAT YOU OWN, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO ACRES.
SO, AND I THOUGHT WELL I'M NOT GONNA EXTEND ANY EVENTS OUT WAY OUT HERE
I GUESS I GET ALL I CAN DO TODAY.
YEAH, YOU CAN MAKE MOTION THAT IT APPEARS THE COUNTY HAS NO CONTROL OVER THAT PROPERTY.
I IT APPEARS THE COUNTY HAS NO CONTROL OVER THAT PROPERTY.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
THAT COUNTY HAS NO CONTROL OVER THAT PROPERTY SINCE IT'S NOT COUNTY PROPERTY.
UH, I HAVE A MESSAGE FROM THAT.
CAROL BROUGHT IN, UH, JERRY'S WIFE CALLED, HE'S OUT OF SURGERY.
UH, DEVICE ALREADY HAS HIS LEG MOVING BACK AND FORTH.
HE'S IN ROOM 3 31 TOMORROW, RIGHT?
NEXT, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER FOOD BID FOR RESALE OF TAX PROPERTY, THE MOBILE HOME ONLY ON CAUSE NUMBER CV OH 9 1 0 9 DASH FOUR.
MAYBANK, TEXAS PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
YEAH, I TALKED WITH THE, UH, THE OWNER, THE BID AND THE OWNER OF THE MOTOR HOME AND ONCE WE PUT IT BACK, WANTS TO PURCHASE IT AND PUT IT ON THE PAYROLL.
SO I MAKE A MOTION, WE DO THE TAX RESALE ON THIS PROPERTY THERE.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
UH, NEXT DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RENEWING MEMBERSHIP WITH THE NORTH EAST TEXAS COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER ASSOCIATION AND PAYING THE ANNUAL DUES.
UH, TON COUNTY HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THAT ORGANIZATION SINCE ITS FIRST FORMED.
DUES 25 A YEAR AND I THINK, UH, WE GET WELL MORE THAN 25 A YEAR BENEFIT BELONG TO ASSOCIATION I, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COMPANY.
NORTHEAST TEXAS COUNTY JUDGE COMMISSIONER ASSOCIATION.
SINCE WE HAD THREE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSIONER'S SPORT AND DAYS GOING BY WHO WERE NO FOUR, FOUR MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSIONER'S SPORTS AND DAYS GO BY, HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT, REALLY PRESIDENT OF THAT ORGANIZATION.
THAT'S VERY GOOD FOR EDUCATION BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME.
SO YOU WILL SPEND ALL YOUR TIME IN CLASS.
NOT A LITTLE LOT TO DO DOWN THERE.
DON'T AS LUNCH CARRIED YOU GO.
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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.UH, ESPECIALLY AND CONSIDER APPROVE REQUEST FROM
I MAKE THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
OKAY, THAT BRINGS US AROUND TO NEED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THERE JOHN? NOT TODAY.
ARE WE GONNA PUT THIS, UH, UH, HEAVY DUTY IDLING ON THE AGENDA? WELL, WE'LL STILL WAITING.
SEE JOHN, I'M GONNA SHOW WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR JOHN, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PAY THE BILLS.
SO I MEANS I GOT JERRY SAID PUT THIS ENVELOPE.
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YEAH.WHAT SOMETHING THAT BUILDING FOR YOU THIS MORNING? OH YEAH, ABOUT SMITH COUNTY.
THEY'RE, I THERE'S NO END TO AND ALL THAT.
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Y'ALL REMEMBER WHEN, YOU KNOW JERRY BERGER, COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR SMITH COUNTY JUDGE COMMISSION SAID, WELL, HE SAID GO AHEAD AND REMODEL WHAT YOU GOT AND HAVE A COMFORTABLE SALE BECAUSE THAT'S YOU.HE SAID, WELL YOU, YOU KNOW, IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES,
THEY HAD A COUPLE BOND ELECTIONS.
HE TOLD THEM, GAVE THEM TODAY, SATURDAY NIGHT AT MIDNIGHT THE JAIL WAS CLOSED.
THAT WAS WHEN, I MEAN IT GOT 10 HOURS.
I THINK THEY DID ON WENT ON AND DID SEE OTHER ONES OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING.
THEY GOT THAT AND THEY GOT POLITICALLY THEY, THEY'RE AFRAID.
I GUARANTEE YOU WE WOULDN'T AWARE OF WHAT DON'T UP STAND UP.
I WHAT CATEGORY SO THAT THEM UNDERSTAND THAT YOU PYRAMID, YOU,
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THAT'S PYRAMID.IF YOU'RE GONNA MONITOR THE BACK, DUMP THE KIND OF GOVERNMENT DOWN HERE, PEOPLE, OFFICE MANAGER, YOU GOT YOUR IN THE VERY TOP, EVERYTHING YOUR PUMP DOES, YOUR TRUCK HAVE TWO PUMP ONE THAT YOU CAN, UH, HAVE A VALUE FROM THIS TO THE CYLINDER.
BUT IF NOT YOU, YOU'RE GONNA NEED A SECOND PUMP.
DON'T GO BY BECAUSE I TOOK TWO PUMPS OFF.
THAT'S WHEN WE GO TO THESE, THESE MEET CANADA.
IN WELL TO THE SO THROUGH USE THAT.
WELL THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION ON I DON'T CALLED ME
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AND THEY HAD NOT GOTTEN IN.OKAY, SO WHAT DO YOU DO WITH EVERY UPGRADE THEY'RE DOING IT WITH.
THEY'RE OR THE INTEGRATION TOOL.
DID BARBARA, YOU AT ALL ON THE LINE? NO, BUT I'M SURE THAT I CALLED YOU.
WE HAD A, SOME OF US IN HERE HAD A BIRTHDAY.
THERE'S A YOU A LONG WAY FROM DEPENDING ON WHAT IF WE HIM, BUT HE NEEDS SOMETHING THAT SAYS ABOUT YOUR OFFICE, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD PUT SO SYSTEM AND YOU KNOW THAT'S HUNDRED PERCENT AUTOMATION IN A NUTSHELL.
THE THING ABOUT THAT WE CAN DECIDE WHY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE AND ITS DOWN HERE,
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BUT WHEN I WAS IN VIETNAM, AWAKE, YOUR, WE, YOUR WE DO NOT WANT SNORE ON THEM.SO I LITERALLY HAD TO LEARN ACTUALLY WHAT AGAINST HE CAN'T APPROVE THAT ALL MY, HE'S GOT 10 PRODUCTS, 10 PRODUCTS.
GIVE HIM MORE SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT.
BUT ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, WELL SHERIFF A GOOD WEEK, GET SOME, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.
THAT'S ONE, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS. THEY STILL WANT GO COURT.
I THINK THE MONEY HELD IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT TO BE USED ONLY.
BUT I REMEMBER WHEN WILLIAM WAYNE TOLD US 80 PICK YOU A PROBABLY SHOULDN'T MAY OKAY, BY THE WAY CHARGES YOU.
AND UH, THEY SAW WE DIDN'T HAVE SIX MEN SITTING THERE.
SO WE, AND ON THE THIRD FLOOR WE GOT RICE UNIVERSITY ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.
WE GOT UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON
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FEET TALL.CONCRETE INSTEAD OF, OKAY, WE CAN PAY THE BILLS.
NOW IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL MAKE IT AND COMMISSIONER LER WILL SECOND IT.
AND I'LL SAY ONCE AGAIN, AS WAS DONE FOR THIS NOTE, JERRY WAS DOING FINE AND 3 31 PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL.
UM, WE, UH, NEXT MONDAY IS THE HOLIDAY.
SO WE WON'T MEET MONDAY, BUT WE DO NEED TO COME IN ON TUESDAY.
OH, THAT'S YOUR OFFICE? UH, YEAH, I'LL BE IN THE OFFICE BECAUSE OF, UH, NINE 30.
BUT THE MAJORITY OF THAT, AND IF THE PRESS WANTS TO KNOW THE MAJORITY, MAJORITY OF THAT MEETING IS GONNA BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA PUT ON THE PAY BILLS AND LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE, ONE ITEM THAT I'M PUTTING ON.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY, ANYTHING ELSE.
SO WE TRY TO GET Y'ALL IN HERE AND GET Y'ALL OUT AS QUICK AS WE CAN.
THIS YOU EXPECT EXECUTIVE SESSION LAST WHILE? YEAH.
REMEMBER THE ONE? OH YEAH, WE GOT ONE HERE.
WE NEED TO THANK YOU JUDY FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
SO TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, WHATEVER.
YEAH, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.
A AND THAT'S THE TABLE, THAT ITEM REGARDING THE AIR QUALITY ISSUE WITH.
THEN TAKE MOST OF THE ADJOURN.
ADJOURN MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.