* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] WHAT'S LEFT, JUDGE? OKAY. UH, MR. T MOST QUESTIONS. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK THEY FOR THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY AS WE NORMALLY DO. WE THANK THEY FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT TH HAVE GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO LOOK DOWN UPON FAVOR. LOOK DOWN WITH FAVOR UPON THE JUDGE AS HE GOES THROUGH HIS HEALING PROCESS WITH HIS EYES. UH, IT'S BEEN A HARD TIME FOR SOMETHING, THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT, UH, WE KNOW THROUGH YOUR, UH, YOUR LOVE AND JUDGMENT, EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT FINE. UH, WE ALSO ASKED THAT, UH, HE LOOKED DOWN UPON FAVOR WITH OUR TROOPS AS THEY SEND THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY AND, UH, DO EVERYTHING TO GET THEM HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ALL THIS WE ASK IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHAT IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, PROTECT, FLAG. I HAVE LED TO ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE AN INDIVISIBLE. Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY MINUTES THE LAST MEETING. IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS, ARE DIRECTIONS, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE PRESENTED MOVE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL THE AYE MOTION. CARRIE, IS THERE A COPY DOWN THERE OR MINE? YOU NEED ONE? NO, NO. THE OH, THE, OH. SEE THAT'S PUT IT ON MY LEFT SIDE. JUDGE. I GOT A ROUTINE QUESTION, ANSWER. OKAY. ON THIS, UH, TCDQ, WILL THIS, WILL THIS, UH, IS THIS MAILED OUT? IS THIS MAILED OUT TO US? TO ME, YEAH. SHOULD I, THAT'S WHY I SEND IT. I DUNNO IF YOU GET A COPY OF IT, KATHY, ON ATTEMPTS DISCHARGE. YEP. WELL, HOW, HOW DO THE PEOPLE GET, I THINK THE COUNTY COURT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A COPY OF IT TOO, THAT THEY CAN POST FROM PUBLIC. BUT IF IT PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER, I'VE, I'VE EVER SEEN IT PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER. IF IT IS, IT'S NOT ANY LOCAL ONES THAT I KNOW OF. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY MAY WANT TO PROTEST THE, THE AMOUNT, UH, I DUNNO HOW TO, I DON'T, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT 18,000? PARDON ME? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT 18,000? THE, UH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THREE 50,000 OF AFFLUENT THAT KIM WANTS TO INCREASE THE DISCHARGE INTO THE LAKE. OH, OKAY. HAVE YOU SEEN THIS? NO, I HAVEN'T. UH, I THINK IT MIGHT BE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 18,000 FINE TCQ. NO, I DIDN'T WANT, DIDN'T I? THE, THOSE THINGS TO EVERY LANDOWNER. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. BUT THE CITY OF CAMP, HOW WOULD YOU GET IT TO EVERY YES. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDER IS THE TRUTH. UH, LAST WEEK WE DISCUSSED, UM, UH, CAMPAIGNING ON COUNTY PROPERTY. UH, ANGIE WENT BACK AND PULLED THE ORDER, AND ACTUALLY THE ORDER WASN'T WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS. THE ORDER SAYS, UH, THERE CAME ON TO BE CONSIDERED A MOTION NOT TO ALLOW POLITICAL SIGNS ON COUNTY PROPERTY. AND THAT CARRIED, [00:05:01] SO IT WASN'T CAMPAIGN, IT WAS POLITICAL SIGNS. THAT WAS, UH, WHAT, 2002? 2003? UH, 2003. YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT VERY WELL BECAUSE I WAS SITTING OUT IN THE AUDIENCE WITH YOUR SIDE. THAT WAS, THAT WAS DIRECTED AT ME. . WELL, THAT, I GUESS WHAT THAT STILL, IT STILL CARRIES THE, THE CONNOTATION THAT UH, IF IT, IF THERE'S NOT A SIGN IN THE PARKING LOT, THE SHERIFF CAN'T ENFORCE IT. SO UNTIL WE PUT A SIGN OUT THERE YEAH. SAYING, YEAH. WELL, I THINK THERE WOULD BE LIKE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY BEFORE. YOU CAN'T JUST GET PUT THE SIGN SIGN. I THINK WE CAN REMOVE THE SIGN FROM THE COUNTY PROPERTY WITHOUT A PROBLEM. THIS THIS TALKS POLITICAL SIGN. THAT'S LIKE A NO PARKING THOUGH, ISN'T, WOULDN'T IT BE LIKE A NO PARKING SIGN? YOU CAN'T TOW A CAR UNLESS THERE'S A SIGN, NO PARKING BY SOME ORDINANCE. WELL, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN, UH, I THINK YOU CAN GO, LIKE, GO A SIGN SOMEBODY. IF I WENT OUT THERE AND PUT A CAMPAIGN SIGN THE COURTHOUSE LAW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD REMOVE ANYBODY TO REMOVE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WRITE A TICKET TO FOR IT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY, THERE'S NOT ANY PENALTY ATTACHED. ANYWAY, RULE IS HE THERE? YEAH. JOE'S COPY. ANYWAY, THAT'S WHY I WENT BACK ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. FIRST ONE UP THIS MORNING IS, UH, CONSTABLE LAW TO PRESENT THE RACIAL PROFILE AND REPORT FOR CONSTABLE PRECINCT NUMBER TWO. CAN I ASK HIM, JUDGE? YES. GO AHEAD. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS? NO, SIR. NOT AT ALL. REGARDING RACIAL PROFILE? REGARDING RACIAL PROFILE? WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS AT ALL. YOU MUST BE RIGHT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CLARK, MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT. THANK YOU. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. IS THAT, THAT'S A STATE MANDATE, I'M SURE. IS THAT? YES SIR. WE'RE A LOT OF DOING A LOT OF TIME. MM-HMM. IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE CONDENSED SOMEHOW. AND YOU DIDN'T TELL ME IT'S GONNA GET A LOT WORSE. YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPORT TO TCL. SEND A COPY 10 BEFORE YOU ORGANIZATION IS GI GIVEN AN OPTION, SOMETHING LIKE GIFT. TRY REDUCE THAT WORK. THIS IS ROSS WESTLAW. I DOUBT IT WEST COULD GET DOWN TO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING UNLESS THERE WAS SOME COMPONENTS OR SOMETHING. IT'S ONLY, IT'S ONLY GONNA GET MORE HONOR. I'LL TELL YOU. WELL, I, I THINK WHAT RAY, WHAT RAY'S ALLUDING TO IS THAT WE EACH GET OH YEAH. THIS MUCH PAPER VOLUMINOUS. THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S, COULD YOU GIVE JUST ONE TO THE COUNTY JUDGE? YEAH, WE'RE ALL WE'RE MANDATED TO DO IS GIVE IT TO OUR GOVERNOR COUNTY BODY. ONE COPY STILL AMOUNT OF TIME. RIDICULOUS. YEAH, IT'S PRETTY, IT TAKE A WHILE. IT'S PRETTY, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT? I GOT A LOT OF FOLDER. YEAH, I YOU NEED TO KEEP THE I USE THE FOLDERS AND THE DIVIDERS. MATTER OF FACT, THEY WERE TAKING, THEY WERE ON LAST WEEK. WHICH ONE? Y WAS GONNA COME UP WITH THE TIES NEXT YEAR. WHO WON? THEY DIDN'T KNOW. OH, OKAY. SO, SO FAR YOU'RE NUMBER ONE. OKAY. OH, THANK YOU. . THERE THAT AYE. MOTION CARRIES. SHERIFF, I'VE GOT CHIEF RICHMOND DOWN HERE. I'M PLAYING CHIEF RICHMOND RIGHT HERE. OKAY. I THINK Y'ALL GOT A COPY OF IT. THERE HAVE BEEN NO DIRECTION PROFILING COMPLAINT. OKAY, WELL WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO ACCEPT THE SHERIFF'S REPORT. SO MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SELLER. ALL IN FAVOR, CI. AYE. AYE. MOTION TO CARRY. NEXT WE HAVE OUR COUNTY TREASURER. YOU MUST BE SORRY. . WHAT? SORRY. YOU BARELY MADE IT, DID YOU? YES, SIR. [00:10:01] WE HAVE THE S REPORT FOR JANUARY, 2010. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHNNY? JUST WANNA COMMENT. THE, THE RECEIPTS WERE DOWN IN FEBRUARY, UH, EXCUSE ME, JANUARY, BUT WE HAD LIKE THREE OR $4 MILLION BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE MONTH ENDED. WE HAD SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS THAT, THAT RECEIVED IN JANUARY. WE GET POSTED IN FEBRUARY. SO I THINK FEBRUARY IS BY AS GOOD AS LAST YEAR. WILL WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT? MOTION. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK. ALL IN . MOTION CARRIES. EVERY TIME I DO THIS, IT REMINDS ME OF BEING IN THE MILITARY. NOBODY UNDERSTANDS ANYTHING EXCEPT A TRIPLICATE, YOU KNOW? OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, JACKSON PASSION. AND HE WANTS TO, UH, ASK US ABOUT REPLACING, UH, PURCHASING SECRETARY COUNCIL. YES, SIR. UH, FRIDAY WAS, UH, EMILY LAST DAY. SO I'M SEEKING PERMISSION TO FILL THAT LINCOLN POSITION. WHERE'S SHE GOING? I WANT CAROL STATE HOSPITAL. UH, GETTING TO THE NURSING INDUSTRY. COULD YOU HIRE SOMEBODY? TELL US WHAT SHE REALLY THINKS INSTEAD OF HIM HONING AROUND. OH, THAT'S CRUEL BUT TRUE. SO MOVED. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SAYING ABOUT COMMISSIONER JACKSON. [00:15:01] ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTION CARRIED. UH, NEXT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SAME THING OF A PATIENT PERSON IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. IT AS A PART-TIME CLERICAL POSITION, UM, TO DO FILING AND ERROR. THE ABOUT 30,000 MAINTENANCE REPORTS WE GET A YEAR FOR THE AEROBIC SYSTEMS. OKAY, SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER? YEAH. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROUND. ALL SAY, AYE. I TALKED TO KATHY ABOUT THAT. MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ONE. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND NEY COUNTY PRECINCT. THREE FOR SOME COMMISSIONER JACKSON. YES. NOT, UH, SO MUCH AS A ROAD. I'M TRYING TO GET THESE YOUNG LOCAL FREEDOMS IN PLACE. SO SOMETHING DOES COME UP. I HAVE IN PLACE. THEY DID CALL THIS PAST WEEK WITH POTHOLES. EVERYBODY GOT THOSE, SO, BUT I TOLD 'EM I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER WE PASS THIS OR NOT PASS IT TODAY. I MAKE THAT MOTION. SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I. MOTION CARRIED. I MAY GET A JOBING IT UP. THANK YOU MUCH. NEXT ONE DISCUSSING CONSIDER COMMISSIONER'S COURT ROLE IN ESTABLISHING AND PARTICIPATING IN A COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. COMMISSIONER CLARK REQUEST THAT ONE. YES, I PUT THAT ON HERE. UH, PROCEED WHAT THE COURT'S WISHES WOULD, UH, I WANT DO THIS EVEN IF IT'S INFORMAL, BUT I'D LIKE TO, UH, HAVE SOME INPUT FROM THE GUYS AS AND WAY THEY DO OVER THERE. EVERY COMMISSIONER AND THE COUNTY JUDGE IS ON THIS THING, COALITION, UH, WHICH IS GOOD AND, AND ALL THE MAYORS OF ALL THE CITY. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE ALL THAT GOOD PEOPLE ON THERE. NOW ON THE CITY GOES, IF THE MAYOR CAN'T DO, THEY CAN SEND THEIR, UH, CITY MANAGER OR WHAT'S GOING ON. YEAH. BUT I THINK PERSON SHOULD BE HELD, SHOULD BE BE ELECTED PERSON. HOWEVER, IF WE DID, IF WE, IF WE ALL GET ON THERE, THEN THAT MEANS I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT INFORMAL. IF WE ALL GET ON THERE, THAT MEANS WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A POSTAL AGENDA AND WE CAN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING EXCEPT WHAT'S ON THAT AGENDA. AND SO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH AN IDEA, THEN WE COULDN'T ACTUALLY DISCUSS GOING MEETINGS. SO, UH, DO WE WANT TO TAKE, DO WE WANNA TAKE TURNS GOING TO THE MEETING? DO WE WANT TO 0.2 PEOPLE TO GO TO THE MEETINGS OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WELL, IT'S GONNA BE THE PURPOSE OF THIS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES IN THE PAST, COMMISSIONER COURT HAS PASSED RESOLUTIONS REGARDING TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND IS COMPLETELY IGNORED IF UP ECHELONS. SO THIS BE MAYBE BE REPORTING TO SOMEONE OR WOULD IT WOULD BE, UH, IT WOULD BE GOOD ACTUALLY. I THINK IT SHOULD COME BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT ALL THE MAYORS IN CERTAIN AREAS, THAT'S GOT CERTAIN WELL, WHAT TO, TO START OFF WITH? WE NEED TO FIND OUT, WE NEED TO OPEN THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION UP BETWEEN ALL THE CITIES SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GUY POINT DOESN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S GOING SIT ACROSS EACH OTHER. THEY TALK ABOUT IT, UH, DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON ANYBODY, BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE BETWEEN ONE SIDE OF THE COUNTY DOES HAVE. SO THIS WOULD BE A, A NEW COALITION. I MEAN THERE'S, IS THERE A, IS THERE RIGHT NOW A COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING COALITION? NO. OKAY. NO. SO IT WOULD BE A WHOLE NEW DEAL. YEAH. WELL LEMME ASK YOU THIS. YOU SEE IN ROCK ALREADY HAS ONE AND, UH, THEY GOT ALL THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES. MM-HMM . HOW IS IT WORKING FOR THEM? I MEAN, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IF SOMETHING COMES UP, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY DISCUSS IT UNLESS ON THE AGENDA. BUT HOW DOES IT WORK FOR, WELL, I'VE BEEN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. IT SEEMS TO WORK PRETTY GOOD. WE MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT IN ONE OF THESE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER LONG. BUT, UH, I MEAN Y'ALL DO THAT RIGHT NOW. WE DO THAT FOR RIGHT NOW. I WOULD DO. WELL, LET'S GET GET IT STARTED, GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED. I THINK IT'D BE A LOT BETTER IF WE WOULD JUST BE INFORMAL ABOUT IT AND NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, BE LIKE SITTING ON A COFFEE. EVERYBODY SITTING AROUND HERE LIKE RIGHT HERE, JUST, YOU KNOW, ONCE A MONTH, ONCE FOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST CAN YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON THERE FOR NEW BUSINESS AND UNDER NEW BUSINESS? CAN YOU MAKE DECISIONS ON NEW BUSINESS? NOT, NO, IT'S GOTTA BE SPECIFIC ON OPPORTUNITY. COULDN'T NOT, YOU MAKE THE AGENDA ABSTRACT ENOUGH. PLANNING ON TRANSPORTATION, , THE, THAT COVERS EVERYTHING FROM [00:20:01] YEAH, WELL IT DOES, BUT THERE'S A CONCERN THAT THEY ARE, ARE YOU PUTTING THE PUBLIC ON NOTICE OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS? ATION ISSUES AND . DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY ADDRESS THAT? RIGHT. MORE SPECIFIC. REMEMBER THEY DO HAVE, THEY DO HAVE AN AGENDA OUT THERE. UH, YEAH, BUT THEY HAVE THE POST ARROWS. OH YEAH. BUT IT MUST BE WORKING FAIRLY WELL FOR THEM THEN IF THEY'RE CONTINUING TO. IT DOES, IT DOES WORK WELL FOR ME. OKAY. BUT END PURPOSE OF THIS JUDGE WOULD BE THAT, UH, GET, UH, CONSENSUS OF NEEDS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THEN INSTEAD OF, UH, JIM GOING DETECTIVE DOCK AND SAYING HE NEEDS SOMETHING DOWN THERE. HE'S TALKING ABOUT REPRESENTING YOU 15,000 PEOPLE. IF THIS GROUP AGREED THAT THERE WAS A NEED DOWN THERE, IT WOULD BE REPRESENT REPRESENTING A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE. IT CARRIES A LOT MORE WEIGHT WHEN IF YOU GO TO TESTIFY. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T KNOW IF ACCOMPLISH NOT, WHY NOT? TWO OF US, JUST TWO, TWO OF US. OR WE GONNA ALTERNATE TWO GO, YOU KNOW, ONE QUARTER, TWO GO THE NEXT QUARTER. IS IT A QUARTERLY? WELL, TO START OFF WITH, YOU KNOW THIS, IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO GET, TO GET THIS GOING, GET THIS GOING, ESPECIALLY AFTER ALL THE BAD BLOOD THAT CAME UP WITH THE LAST BILL. SO YEAH, WE NEED TO LET THAT HEAT SEE IF WE HAD THIS IN PLACE PRIOR TO HAVING ANY MONEY, I THINK WE COULD, I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE THAT BLOOD LINE. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO IF WE GET BEYOND THAT, LET THAT HEAL UP A LITTLE BIT AND GET DONE. LET JUST, LET'S START SLOW . YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DISAGREE THAT DIFFERE DIFFERENCE IN THIS CASE. HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND I THINK WE SHOULD PURSUE IT. BUT, UH, UM, WILL YOU GIVE ME ANOTHER AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE . YOU THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? I DID GET YOU ANOTHER MAP. OKAY. I LIKE A JUDGE. I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE A GREAT IDEA. TALK ABOUT WITH A POST MEETING AND THEN, AND THEN I GUESS WE COULD TRY, WE TRY IT WITH A POST MEETING AND SEE HOW IT WORKED. OR WE COULD TRACK, UH, YOU KNOW, OFFICIAL THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO GO TO POST MEETINGS OR, SO KNOW WE NEED, UH, INPUT FROM THE, UH, MAYORS AND STUFF ON WHETHER THEY WANTED ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. ARE YOU WANT ANCY? WELL, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE OUR COMMITTEE WE WANT WE WON'T MEETING. AND I'LL REMIND YOU, BEFORE Y'ALL CAME ON THE COURT, I TRIED FOR TWO YEARS TO GET A MEETING WITH ALL THE MAYORS AND, AND THE COUNTY JUDGE AND, AND THE, UH, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNOR AND WE COULD NEVER GET 'EM ALL TOGETHER. MM-HMM . MAYORS CARE, NOTHING ABOUT IT. SO WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND WE COULDN'T EVEN GET THE MAYORS TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE THOROUGHFARE THOROUGHFARE PLAN BECAUSE THEY ALL HAD THEIR OWN AGENDAS. WHY WOULD IT BE? WELL MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE, THE FIRST MEETING WOULD BE TO SEE WHO ALL WAS INTERESTED IN SIR. MAYBE THE FIRST MEETING WOULD NEED TO BE TO SEE WHO'S ALL INTERESTED IN WHAT WOULD IT BE? HE SAYING COULDN'T GET THE MARRIAGE TOGETHER. PROBABLY SOME OF 'EM DIDN'T HAVE INTEREST IN IT. SO, SO AS FAR AS, UH, UH, WITH ESTABLISHING, UH, AND PARTICIPATING IN THE COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING COALITION COALITION, UH, I'D ENTERTAINED A MOTION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING COALITION. AND UH, WE NEED TO 0.2 PEOPLE TO TO HEAD IT UP. UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK HAS SOME INSIGHT AND TRANSPORTATION SITUATIONS SINCE UH, HIS WIFE, UH, IS IN THE KNOW OVER THERE . SO I'D RECOMMEND THAT HE BE ON AND, UH, JIM, HE'S GOT ISSUES THAT WAY. WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY FROM THE, THE BUSIEST AREA AND SOMEONE FROM THE LEAST BUSIEST AREA. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. WHO THE BUSIEST WHICH ONE? . YEAH. I SECOND YOU A SECOND. IF I'M GONNA MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS IN THE SAME MOTION. LET ME ASK YOU, LET ME ASK THIS. LEMME ASK THIS. WILL WE STILL BE ROTATING OR THESE, THESE TWO WOULD BE, UH, I THINK WE STILL SHOULD ROTATE. YEAH, I LIKE THAT THESE WOULD BE THE INITIAL TWO AND I THINK WE'RE GOING HAVE IT, UH, SIX MONTHS AT A TIME. A MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS. WE GO I'M MIGHT TRY FOR QUARTERLY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER. BUT [00:25:01] MOST OF THE S I'VE TALKED TO, I AGREE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. UH, NOW WHEN COMES TIME TO, UH, GETTING THEIR COMMITMENT FOR A TIME OR WHATEVER WITH S'S THAT TIME. UH, OKAY. PAYING JOBS. LAURA, AFTER TRANSPORTATION PLANNING COALITION, UH, PUT UH, WITH THE INITIAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COUNTY BEING COMMISSIONER RAY CLARK AND COMMISSIONER JIM DULLER. OKAY. AND DID YOU WANT TO SAY WITH THE ROTATION SET AT A MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS OR NO? WELL, SIX MONTHS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE NEED. WE COULD GO WHOLE YEAR. QUARTERLY. QUARTERLY WAS SIX MONTHS. TWO QUARTER, QUARTER. SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT JUST GET THESE, WE, I THINK WE MIGHT TRY AND SEE IT WORKS AND FINALIZE WHAT GOES ON AFTER WE FIND WHAT, WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE. WHAT ARE ISSUES BE. YEAH. YEAH. LET'S DO IT INITIALLY SIX MONTHS AND THEN ALWAYS COME BACK TO END THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TIGHT THE MAYORS WOULD BE. 'CAUSE IF IT'S ONLY THE MAYORS WELL, WITH NO, WITH NO FORUM WOULD MATTER. WELL, I THINK THIS SOME TWO OF YOU OR WORK OUT WHETHER IT'S UM, UH, THE MAYORS OR MAYORS AND OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THEY HAVE THE SAME OPEN RECORDS OR OPEN MEETING. PROBABLY CITY COUNCIL. THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE FORMER CITY COUNCILORS. YEAH, BUT JUST THE MAYOR, YOU WOULDN'T. YEAH. YEAH. LAURA, WOULD YOU READ THAT BACK TO US PLEASE? THERE CAME ON TO BE CONSIDERED A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ROLE. AND YOU SAID IN PARTICIPATING IN A COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING COALITION WITH THE INITIAL REPRESENTATIVE, DEAN AND REPRESENTATIVE IS BEING COMMISSIONER RAY CLARK AND JIM DILLER WITH THE ROTATION SET, INITIAL ROTATION SET FOR SIX MONTHS. BUT DO YOU WANT TO KEEP TO APPROVE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ROLE IN ESTABLISHING AND PARTICIPATING? NO. IT SHOULD BE, UM, UH, ESTABLISHING A COALITION FOR A COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. AND YOU PUT PULL IN THERE AGAIN AND THEN PITCH IT OUT LIKE WE DID. OKAY. WE'LL ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER CLARK AND ENTERTAIN THE SECOND COMMISSIONER ALL SAY, AYE. MOTION CARRIED. I DON'T TURN OUT LIKE THAT 20 MILLION THING. THAT, THAT WAS EMBARRASSING. IT WAS EMBARRASSING. WELL, THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS AND IT COMES DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY OF IT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE PARTICIPATION FROM ENTITIES, SOMETHING THEY CAN AGREE ON. YEAH. I MET WITH THE CITY OF KEMP. I MET WITH COMBINE. I WENT TO TER HIGHWAY AND I DROVE AROUND THE CITY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA BE. AND I TALKED WITH THE ABOUT THAT TIME, I WISH A LOT OF TIME AND I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY I VOTED. AND THEN IT THAT DON'T MATTER. DO, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA COME OUT EXACTLY LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT. YOU REALLY, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED HERE SINCE 1975. EVEN WHEN I WASN'T IN OFFICE, I WAS STILL ON THE COMMITTEES TO GET THIS 34 BYPASS AND PROJECTS THAT COME ALONG THAT EACH IN EACH ENTITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. NONE OF IT EVER, EVER GETS DONE. AND I'LL SAY AGAIN UNTIL TDOT SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE READY TO DO IT, AND THEN IT GETS DONE. SO UNTIL TEXDOT IS CONVINCED AND THEY'RE READY TO DO IT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. YOU SEE, THEY'RE HAVING THE, THE I NINE IS COMING UP. UH, I HAD A BIG MEETING ON THE I NINE WAS GONNA DISPLACE A LOT, LOT OF PEOPLE. THAT'S WHY THAT'S MY, YEAH. WE WORK ON THAT PRIOR TO PEOPLE GETTING THERE. WE'LL, ANYBODY 15 YEARS DOWN, 15 YEARS DOWN THERE THAT THERE, LIKE, IT'S GONNA DO OVER THERE. IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE YOU GET A THOUSAND HOUSES IN THE WAY OF END OF A ROAD. YEAH. AND HAVING SAID WHAT I JUST SAID, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T TRY MM-HMM . JUST LIKE WE DIDN'T GIVE UP ON 34TH, SO [00:30:01] WE SHOULDN'T GIVE UP ON, UH, THIS COALITION PLANNING, PUTTING OUT A PLAN. SOUTHWEST PARK GOT APPROVED IN, UH, JOHNSON COUNTY JUDGE HARMON DOWN THERE. THAT'S BEEN LONG BOOKS SINCE THE SIXTIES APPROVED THAT BUILDING THAT, UH, THEIR MEETING LAST FRIDAY, I BELIEVE. YEAH. OKAY. DID WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? WE TAKE A VOTE. C WE DID. OKAY, GOOD. EVERYBODY WAS IN FAVOR. OKAY. NEXT WE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPOINTING TWO MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE PONY TIF BOARD. LET'S SEE, CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER JACKSON, UH, ON MATERIAL. AND I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE WELL EDUCATED NOW AND, AND, UH, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. NO, NO, WE'RE NOT. BUT WE'RE LEARNING. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO MR. JACKSON ABOUT THIS, BUT I I WOULD, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MR. JACKSON APPOINTED TO THE POINT BOARD ALSO BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE OF OUR EXPERIENCE WE'VE GOT ON THE CHAIR BOARD, UH, THE LEARNING CURVE WON'T BE QUITE AS BAD. AND WE, THAT POINT WE'RE GATHERING, UH, OF COURSE WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THAT LATER ON. AND ACTUALLY A MEMBER DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A COMMISSIONER. WE CAN POINT ANYBODY FOR IT. BUT SINCE MR. JACKSON KNOWS HOW WE'RE, HOW, HOW IT'S BEEN DONE OVER TRAIL WOULD BE, I THINK IT'D BE A BIT HELPFUL EXPLAINING THINGS OR LEARNING THINGS ON POINT. AND I, I WOULD RECOMMEND MR. JACKSON BE ON POINT COURT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. RIGHT. I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS ON IT. CORRECT. SO I ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER JACKSON, UH, AS THE COUNTY MEMBER ON TIP FOR MOTIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE, I GUESS YOU MOTION, BUT I DIDN'T ASK YOU. I DISCUSS WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. I COULDN'T ASK. YOU SUPPOSED TO SPEAK UP, GET YES. I MAKE SURE THERE'S NO PAY BACK ON THIS. OKAY. THE NEXT, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE BID FROM KVR TO REPAINT, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COURTHOUSE ANNEX. THE, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, CAME UP LAST WEEK THAT I ASKED YOU THAT, IS IT JUST THEY JUST GONNA GO PAINT IT? OR ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE WINDOWS ON THAT SIDE AND THAT COVER OVER THOSE WINDOWS? YEAH, AND JUDGE, UH, JACK AND I WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE, UH, UH, THE WHOLE ANNEX BUILDING WITH THIS GUY AND THEY WERE VERY, VERY, UH, COMPLETE AND A LOT MORE, UH, CONSCIENTIOUS THAN THE OTHER BID WE GOT. OF COURSE, THE OTHER BID DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY INSURANCE EITHER, SO THERE'S QUITE A DISCREPANCY THERE. BUT, UH, AS YOU SEE THE, THE TOTAL BID FOR ALL THE WORKS, $58,000. AND LET ME JUST READ YOU REAL QUICK, IF YOU HADN'T ALREADY READ THIS, WHAT WHAT THIS, UH, WHAT THIS, UH, PROVIDES. UH, FIRST THEY'LL PROVIDE SKETCHES AND NARRATIVES TO US TO LOOK AT TO SEE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. UH, THEY'LL PROVIDE SAFETY BARRICADES AS NEEDED. THEY'LL PROVIDE ALL SCAFFOLDING AND MAN LIFTS NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE JOB. THEY'LL PROVIDE DUST OVER SPRAY PROTECTION TO PREVENT INADVERTENT SOILING OF PASSENGERS AND PARKED CARS. POWER WA POWER WASH THE ENTIRE BUILDING TO BE REPAINTED, WASTEWATER TO BE FILTERED USING HAY BALES AND SIMILAR MEDIA TO ALLOW WATER TO GO INTO THE DRAIN SYSTEM. THEY'LL HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM KAUFMAN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THOSE THINGS, UH, EXISTING FOAM ROOF WILL NOT BE WASHED OR PAINTED, AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE VERY CAREFUL CARE OF WALKING ON THAT SO THAT THAT DOESN'T CRACK UP ANYMORE. UH, THESE ARE THE PARTS YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT. REMOVE AND THEN CAULK ALL JOINTS AND BUILDING FACADE UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE, AS OPTIONAL WORK INCLUDED. INCLUDED IN THIS IS TO CAU CAU THE NON ROOF COATED JOINTS OF THE STONE CAPS ON THE PARAPET WALLS REPAIR CORNER OF BUILDING ON MULBERRY STREET, WHERE THE OLD SIGN WAS. WHEN THAT SIGN PULLED DOWN IT, IT LEFT A, A LOT OF GAPING HOLES IN THERE ON THAT. THEY'LL REPAIR THAT REPAINT ENTIRE FACADE WITH ELASTRIC PAINT. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ELASTRIC PAINT, BUT THIS IS TO ENSURE BRIDGING OF EXISTING TEXTURE AND MINOR CRACKS. ELASTRIC PAINT [00:35:01] IS SUGGESTED DUE TO THE NATURE AND CONDITION OF THE EXISTING MARBLE CREEK PANELS. UH, IT CAN BRIDGE SMALL GAPS AND WILL EXPAND AND CONTRACT BETTER THAN ALL LATEX. UH, WE CAN PICK UP TO THREE COLORS. UH, THEY'VE DONE A LEAD TEST. THEY DON'T SEE ANY LEAD IN THAT BUILDING PAINT, SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. UH, THESE LITTLE, UH, OPTIONS ONE, TWO, AND THREE. OPTION ONE IS TO REMOVE AND CAULK THE SILICONE CAULK JOINTS ON THE FIRST FLOOR STOREFRONT WINDOWS. THAT'S, UH, AND THE AMOUNT OF THAT WAS, UH, 1300. UH, OPTION TWO WAS TO PROVIDE TWO CUSTOM BUILT STORM WINDOW PANELS FOR THE NORTH FACING WINDOWS. THEY SHALL BEST MATCH THE EXISTING STORM WINDOWS AND LEXION WILL BE USED IN LIEU OF GLASS BECAUSE THEY'RE STRONGER AND, UH, LESS LIKELY TO BREAK. THE LAST ONE WAS POWER WASH AND PAINT THE ADJACENT, ADJACENT PROPERTY PARAPET WALL TO MATCH THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX. NOW THAT'S THAT PART BETWEEN US AND THAT, UH, ANTIQUE STORE RIGHT THERE. IT LOOKS LIKE PART OF OUR STUFF GOES OVER THERE TO THAT. BUT I REALLY THINK THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. AND, UH, WHETHER WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SPEND $1,100 JUST TO PAINT THAT 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOVE OUR BUILDING. UH, THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. CAN WE, CAN WE LEGALLY DO THAT? THINK SOMEBODY ELSE BUILDING? I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE IT CAME UP OVER HERE. YEAH. AND I THINK JOHN DETERMINED THAT WE COULDN'T AND THAT'S THE PART HE'S TALKING ABOUT, JUDGE. YES, SIR. AND I, AND I THINK, UH, I THINK WHAT HE WANTS US TO DO IS WE NEED TO, WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THAT BUSINESS OWNER IF THEY WANT TO HAVE IT. IF THEY DON'T, OF COURSE WE WON'T. YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT, BECAUSE OVER HERE, MIKE ON THAT BUILDING THERE, AND WE WENT TO MIKE AND SAID, MIKE, WE'RE FIXING TO DO OUR BUILDING. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND LET US, DON'T YOU DO YOURS THAT WAY NOW AND THEN IT WOULD COST YOU SIX AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND MONEY ON IT. SO I THINK THE VENDOR WOULD PREFER MAYBE THAT, THAT, UH, WE NEGOTIATE WITH THAT BID OWNER AND THEN, UH, THEY COULD PAY US AND THEN WE COULD WRITE, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT RIGHT. BUT, UH, OKAY. I THINK THE RIGHT JUDGE WOULD'VE TO DO THAT. UH, ANYWAY, IT'S, UH, QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THE OTHER BID, BUT THE OTHER BID WASN'T AS NEAR AS COMPLETE AS THIS ONE. AND, UH, I KNOW IT'S NOT MANDATORY ON US JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GET 40 COMPLAINTS A WEEK ABOUT IT. BUT, UH, I THINK WE, I THINK WE OWE THE CITY AND THE SURROUNDING PEOPLE SOMETHING TO TRY TO, UH, KEEP THAT AT LEAST AS, AS, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AS THE REST OF THE AREAS AROUND THERE. SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. WE WERE WORKING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE ARCHITECT RAY AND I WERE, UH, TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY POSSIBILITY OF, UH, GETTING BACK TO THE OTHER JOB, BUT, UH, THAT JUST KIND OF DRAGGED ON AND DRAGGED ON AND DRAGGED ON. AND THAT WOULD'VE COST US TWO OR $300,000 ANYWAY. SO MAYBE WE JUST TAKE THIS AND PAINT IT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT LAST US SIX OR EIGHT 10 YEARS AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHAT TO DO. I WOULD TRY TO GET ARCHITECT REDUCE THE SCOPE OF THAT WORK. SO WHAT WE CAN DO FOR HUNDRED THOUSAND, HOW, HOW GOOD WE MAKE THAT BILL FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND APPROXIMATELY INSTEAD OF THE 200 GETTING, UH, SUBCONTRACT SUBCONTRACTORS HAVE TO GIVE HIM A BID ON THAT. HE HAD A REAL HARD PROBLEM DOING THAT BECAUSE OF SAME ISSUE WAS THING COST 58 TIMES JUST TO PAINT IT. YEAH. BECAUSE ALL PROBLEMS, THE LOCATION WAS BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING HAS TO BE, OH YEAH. I PERSONALLY SPEND HUNDRED 50 IF WE COULD MAKE IT LOOK LIKE MAPLE SAW I WHAT IT COST. BUT THAT WOULD TO YEAH, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE EXTREME. I I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT JERRY ANSWERED. MAYBE ONE OF THEM. UH, WHAT THAT BONDING, ARE THEY BONDING? YEAH. YEAH. THERE'S A BONDING PRICE IN THERE. $586 AND THEY WILL HAVE FULL LIABILITY AND, UH, PROPERTY INSURANCE. THEY HAVE INSURANCE AND THERE'S A WARRANTY ALSO. YEAH. YEAH. AND JACK, YOU SAY THEY'RE UNDER SOME TEXAS? UM, YES SIR, IT IS, UH, TCPN. IT'S THE, UH, TEXAS, UH, OR THE COOPERATIVE, UH, PURCHASING NETWORK. UH, YOU MAY OR NOT REMEMBER JUDGE THE, UH, EX PURCHASING AGENT FOR DALLAS COUNTY. I THINK THAT CONSULTED WITH, UH, THE COURT ABOUT THE PURCHASING POSITION. YOU KNOW, YEARS BACK, [00:40:01] UH, THAT GENTLEMAN WENT TO TCPN, UH, IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGER CO-OPS NEXT TO, UH, BY BOARD. UH, THEY'VE BEEN IN THIS FOR A LONG TIME. UH, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON, ON THIS, THIS, THIS IS A JOB ORDER CONTRACT WHERE THEY, UH, IT'S REAL, IT'S REAL POPULAR ON THIS SIDE'S JOB, UH, WHERE YOU DON'T, WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ARCHITECT OR, OR A ENGINEER. THEY PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY UP WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK. UH, THEY'VE ALSO VISITED WITH, UH, TDOT AND TALKED TO THOSE FOLKS. THEY TALKED TO THE, THE CITY. SO THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF BACKGROUND WORK ON THIS. UH, AND THE JOHN BORDER CONTRACT, THAT'S WHERE THEY, UH, DO A NATIONWIDE STUDY. IT'S, THERE'S RS MEANS CATALOG THAT TELLS YOU ON AVERAGE NATIONWIDE, IT COSTS THIS MUCH TO HANG THE DOOR, THIS MUCH TO LAY CARPET THIS MUCH, YOU KNOW, EVERY PARTICULAR THING IS, IS, UH, PRICED. ON THAT LAST PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A, UH, DISCOUNT FOR REGION 10 THAT THEY GAVE. UH, THEN THEY ALSO GAVE AN ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT FOR, UH, UH, THIS PARTICULAR AREA FROM KALIN COUNTY. UH, SO THAT THEY HAVE REDUCED THAT QUITE A BIT. UH, AND THEY HAVE THE MANPOWER OF COURSE. UH, KBR IS ACTUALLY BROWN ROOF. AND I THINK AS KELLOGG CAME ON THERE, UH, DURING THE TIME WHEN, WHEN VICE PRESIDENT INVOLVED WITH BROWN ROOF CAUSED ALL THE, UH, UH, POLITICAL PROBLEMS. SO IT'S A BIG OUTFIT. UH, AND THEY'RE HEAVILY BONDED INSURERS AND, UH, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY COMPETITIVE, UH, VERSUS WHAT WE, WE WANT OUT TO BID. AND THE COST OF DOING THAT AND GETTING VENDORS THAT MAY OR MIGHT NOT, MAY OR MAY NOT QUALIFY FOR, UH, THIS TYPE OF WORK OUT HERE. UH, A LOT OF THINGS THEY HAVE TO GET WORKED OUT WITH THE CITY. WHAT KIND OF FEES AND WHAT KIND OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS THOUGH. THEY, THEY'VE ADDRESSED THE TRAFFIC, THEY'RE GONNA REROUTE TRAFFIC. UH, THEY'VE DONE ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF WORK, UH, PRIOR TO, PRIOR TO TURNING THIS IN. AND LIKE I MENTIONED, JUDGE, IT IS ON, ON A, UH, UH, CORPORATE, UH, CONTRACT. SO, UH, IT SATISFIES THE PROCUREMENT SIDE OF IT. WE UPSTAIRS INSIDE THE BUILDING, LOOKED AT ALL THOSE WINDOWS UP THERE THAT NEEDED CAULKING AND TALKED ABOUT THOSE. UH, IT WAS VERY, UH, VERY PRECISE AND VERY, UH, INCLUSIVE. THE THING I, I'VE GOT CONCERNED JURY IS THERE'S A COUPLE OF WINDOWS THERE THAT, UH, ARE SO BAD, UH, THAT I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, YEAH. WHEN THEY GET, WHEN THEY GET CAUGHT IN THOSE, UH, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, ONE GOOD THING. GO AHEAD. I WAS GONNA SAY ONE, ONE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS, THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTS IS THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT AND YOU TEND NOT TO HAVE NEAR MANY CHANGE ORDERS AND MAY MAY NOT HAVE ANY CHANGE ORDERS VERSUS A ACTUAL BID WHERE YOU MAY MISSING SOME THINGS. THESE GUYS PRETTY MUCH LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND HAVE THEIR FOLKS COME IN AND GET GOOD, GOOD PRICING ON THAT. AND THEY TRY TO USE THE LOCAL PEOPLE IF THEY CAN. UH, AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THESE GUYS, UH, HAVE ON THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, BUT IF, IF LOCAL, IF LOCAL HELP US OUT THERE, THEY TRY TO CONTRACT WITH THOSE FOLKS, UM, MY QUESTIONS GONNA BE IF THEY, UH, DECIDED, UH, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THE PIGEONS IN THE MEANTIME. NO, SIR. WE DID NOT. THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY CHANGE ORDER YOU MIGHT HAVE. YES. CAPTURE THOSE AND TAKE THEM OUT YOUR FARM. THEY, THEY COULD SEND THEM ON ONE IN CRUISE LAST CREEK. MY WIFE WENT ON AND SAID SHE WEARING QUAIL. SHE, SHE DIDN'T KNOW QUAIL WAS RED MEAT . I TOLD HER WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS. SHE DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT QUA QUA. I, I HAVE ONE COURSE. SEE THAT BUILDING, THAT BUILDING IS IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS LOOK REAL BAD AND WORK REALLY TO BE DONE. I DO. WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT. THAT'S MY COURSE WHERE THE MONEY COME FROM. HOW SHOULD FIND THE MONEY IF WE FIND RED? I REMEMBER SAYING THIS, FOR THOSE THREE COLORS, THEY'RE GONNA BE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE. WELL, I DON'T, WE HAD DECIDED WHO'S GONNA, YOU WANT ME TO PICK THE COLORS? OH MY GOSH. OH, WE DO HAVE FUNDS IN THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE, UH, COURTHOUSE COURT, COURT OWNED, COUNTY OWNED FACILITIES. YES. JUDGE, IF, UH, QUALIFY TO COME OUT THE MATTER. THANK YOU. UH, I MIGHT GET HIM TO MAKE UP FOUR OR FIVE, UH, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, DRAWINGS OF THAT WITH DIFFERENT COLORS ON THERE AND LOOK AT IT AND WE LOOK AT IT. YEAH. YEAH. I'LL BRING THOSE BACK BEFORE WE START ANY WORK IF WE, IF WE, UH, PASS IT HERE TODAY. JUDGE, THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT IS, UH, IT WOULD REQUIRE A RESOLUTION, UH, LIKE SIMILAR TO IN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, WITH T CCP N UH, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER, CAN WE, IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THIS PROJECT, CAN THAT BE DONE WITHIN [00:45:01] THIS MEETING TODAY OR THAT NEED TO BE BACK ON AGENDA, UH, SIGN THIS RESOLUTION? WELL, IF WE ACCEPT THE BID, I THINK WE CAN DO A, ONCE WE ACCEPT THIS BID, THEN IT'D BE PART OF THIS. BE PART OF IT. SO, BUT WE DO NEED A, ANOTHER LITTLE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT. JACK, WHY DO YOU THINK WE NEED A SECOND ONE IF THERE ARE ALREADY APPROVED BY TCPN? PARDON ME? WHY DO YOU THINK WE NEED A SECOND ONE? IF THEY ACCEPT THE BID TODAY? OH, WE DON'T NEED A SECOND ONE. I JUST NEED A RESOLUTION SIGNED. YOU KNOW THAT THE OH. THAT WE'RE GOING BE PART OF THE CO-OP. WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY JOINED TCPN. OKAY. I MISUNDERSTOOD. OKAY. I MISUNDERSTOOD IT. JUST A REGULAT. YEAH, NO, WE'LL, THAT NEED TO BE ON NEXT WEEK. OKAY. THEN THE MOTION SHOULD BE, UH, EXCEPT BID OF KPR TO REPAINT, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, COURTHOUSE ANNEX BUILDING SUBJECT TO THE COUNTY PASSING RESOLUTION TO JOIN TCPN. OKAY, GOT IT. MM-HMM . AND COMMISSIONER ROUND WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER MCDON WILL SECOND THAT MOTION ON ANY MORE DISCUSSION. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT AS A CONTRACTOR, I WOULDN'T WANNA DO THAT. THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY IT IS A LOT OF MONEY. I'D BE RUNNING BACK. SOMEBODY DO. WELL, UH, JURY'S NOT GONNA ONE THAT GETS COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. I HAD A FRIEND CAME INTO TOWN THAT'S BEEN A SINCE THEY HAD BEEN HERE AND, UH, THEY CALLED ME AT HOME, SAID WHY IS THE M BANK LET THAT BUILDING COOPERATIVE NETWORK. TEXAS COOPERATIVE TPNI GUESS THE ONLY THING WE NEED IS JUST MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND. IT SAYS YOU HAVE PERMIT FEES. IT'S TEXAS COOPER PURCHASING ORDER. SO ANY CITY TAKES THAT PERMIT REIMBURSEMENT. THAT'S A MINOR POINT. BUT, BUT IF THE CITY KNOWS FOR THE COUNTY, THEY MIGHT, I'LL TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT. YEAH. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL OPPOSED, AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, NEXT, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS FOR ACTUARIAL SHARED SERVICES. UH, THE, UH, SEE IF I CAN EXPLAIN THAT. JACK, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT OR HOW, UH, THERE IS A NEW ACCOUNTING REQUIREMENT, WHICH ACTUALLY JOHNNY AND I THOUGHT WAS, WAS, UH, APPLICABLE TO US NEXT YEAR. UH, WE JUST FOUND OUT IT'S APPLICABLE TO US THIS YEAR, BUT WE HAVE TO GET AN ACTUARIAL, UH, ESTIMATE ON OUR PENSION. I OUR, UH, AND RETIREMENT BENEFITS OTHER THAN PENSION. THAT'S GOOD. WHICH WOULD BE PRIMARILY OUR HEALTH INSURANCE THAT WE PROVIDE AT LOW COST OR NO COST TO RETIREES DEPENDING ON HOW THEY FIT IN THAT CURRENT PLAN. UH, SO THIS IS KIND OF A, A LAST MINUTE. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS A YEAR AGO KIND OF THING, BUT JOHNNY AND I THOUGHT WE HAD ANOTHER YEAR. UH, BUT THIS GROUP HAS A, HAS A, AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL . IT'S, UH, I THINK THEIR ESTIMATE'S $4,500. HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? 46 80 IT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET IT DONE. AND, AND THIS IS A RECOGNIZED GROUP TO DO IT. UH, IT GOES TO NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENT. IT WOULD BE DONE RIGHT NOW. EITHER YOU OR JOHNNY. ONE OF ONE OF YOU EXPLAINED THAT, BUT I WENT BLANK WHEN I SAW THAT. ACTUALLY LEFT. YES. LEFT THAT BLANK. YEAH. YEAH. I'M SURE IT WAS JOHNNY. HE, HE'S PUT THIS TOGETHER SINCE HE'S ON PAYROLL. BUT IT'S NEEDED FOR THE AUDIT. WHERE'S MONEY COME OUTTA THAT? PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. [00:50:03] WELL, WE'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT. COMMISSIONER ROUND MAKES IT AND COMMISSIONER JACKSON. SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A MOTION CARRIED. OKAY. NOW WE'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER SETTING, UH, DATES FOR THE COUNTY CLEANUP. I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE BE ASKING ME ABOUT THIS ALREADY. JUDGE. UH, MOST EVERYBODY AROUND KNOWS THAT WE DO THAT SOMETIME IN MAY AND THEY LIKE TO TRY TO WORK THEIR, UH, DIFFERENT CIVIC AND CHARITABLE THINGS AROUND THAT. SO, UH, I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD PUT THIS ON HERE. MOTHER'S DAY IS MAY THE 10TH. WE ALWAYS TRY TO WORK IT AROUND THAT SOME WAY, EITHER THE WEEK BEFORE THAT OR THE WEEK AFTER. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY PREFERENCES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER? SEVEN, EIGHTH OR 1415? THAT'S THE TWO DAYS. YES. ARE WE JUST GONNA DO IT WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRI UH, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR WAS TWO DAYS. THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. YEAH. YEAH. FRIDAY'S, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. HAVE ONE ON SATURDAY. FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. YEAH. IF YOU WANT IT OTHER DAY, GUYS DON'T WANT DO DO IT WEEK AFTER THEY BE OFF ON IT. GO VISIT MOM SOMEWHERE ON SUNDAY. 1415 IS THE WEEK AFTER. YEAH, THAT'S THE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. YEAH. AND THAT SUNDAY IS WHEN YOU LEAVE TO GO TO. OKAY. THEY JUST, WE'LL BE CLEANED UP BY THEN. CLEANED UP. I HAVE TO TAKE TWO SHOWERS AFTER WEEK. , I THINK 1450 BETTER THAN THE FIRST ONE. OKAY. THAT AGREEABLE THERE. THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. DOUG. I UPON INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO START THE CLEAN UP ON THE ROADS AGAIN AS SOON AS WEATHER WILL PERMIT. OKAY. AND YOU'RE, ONE OF YOUR ROADS IS TOP OF THE LIST. I GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND OKAY. UH, WE'VE ALREADY MAKING A LIST AND I THINK 2 78, 1 42, UH, IF ANYBODY'S GOT SOMETHING THEY REALLY WANT US TO CONCENTRATE ON, NEED TO GET THAT TO BEAR TO BRIAN BEAVERS. BUT WE'RE GOING START OUT PROBABLY THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. HOPEFULLY IT'S GONNA DRY UP AND YEAH, RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T GET OFF SOME DITCHES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. MY, UH, MIKE, KATHY HAS BEEN TAKING REQUEST. YOU WANT ME TO HAVE HER GIVE THAT TO BRIAN OR YES. CAR OR WHOEVER. YEAH, SO WE'RE, WE WILL GET BACK TO THAT, BUT IT'S JUST BEEN SO BAD THAT OH YEAH, I COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT. UH, FORTUNATELY SINCE I'M NOT RUNNING FOR REELECTION, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY HOGS STUFFED IN MY DRIVEWAY THIS TIME. GOOD. WE GOT A COUPLE, LAURA'S GOT A COUPLE SUGAR TO YOU. YEAH, I DON'T NEED THEM. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. YOU'RE RUNNING FOR REELECTION. MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE HOG SHOWED UP RIGHT THERE. JERRY HAD TO OUR FORKLIFT COME OUT THERE AND RUN IN LOWER, GET THOSE HOGS. THEY WERE HUGE THINGS. EXCUSE ME. WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY? DID YOU SAY JERRY HAD TO RUN JERRY'S CHARGE? JERRY'S CHARGE OF PICKING UP THAT IT'S MY, IT'S MY PRECINCT. I MEAN IT IS PRECINCT, BUT MY COMMISSIONERS SAID THEY'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO SIT THERE AND LIE. SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, DIDN'T THEY? YEAH. THAT'S CONTROLLED. SEE, I COULDN'T GET OUTTA MY DRIVEWAY. I WAS BLOCKED IN. YOU WASN'T GONNA TOUCH IT. I WASN'T GONNA TOUCH IT. I LIKE TO, I COULD ON THIS TOPIC, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, HAD TO TWIST ARMS AND BEGGED IT TO GET EVERY LOCATION, UH, BID ON FOR VENDORS TO, TO BID ON SOMETHING. AND WE MAY NEED HAVE A PRE-BID, UH, PRE, PRE-BID IF YOU WOULD COMMISSIONER, DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE YES. UM, WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT IS THERE'S SEVERAL HAVE GONE OUT OF BUSINESS OR THEY'VE JOINED FORCES AND UH, SO THERE'S LESS VENDORS OUT THERE. UH, ONE OF THE VENDORS, PARTICULARLY WHEN I'VE VISITED, I THINK THAT'S DONE PRECINCT BEFORE. UH, ANOTHER PROBLEM WE HAVE IS ALL THE CITIES WANT TO DO IT THE SAME DAY THAT WE DO, WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA, INFER. BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE OTHER VENDORS DON'T WANNA BID ON OURS BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING CITIES. SO, UH, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING, GETTING EVERY, EVERY, UH, AREA TO BID ON. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WHAT I'M FIGURE OF, HAVE YOU, UH, HAVE YOU, YOU STILL HAVE THE NUMBER OF THE MALOFF PEOPLE THAT WE USED LAST YEAR? YES SIR. GOOD. BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. YEAH. AND THEY WERE A VENDOR THAT DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PAST. UH, THEY'RE THEY'RE, THEY, THEY DID GREAT WORK TOO. SO WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF HOURS CALLING PEOPLE TO BEG BUILDING THAT THING. AND IT WAS KIND OF LAST MINUTE DEAL. WE GOT BID. BUT THERE AGAIN, UH, IT'S A REAL PROBLEM 'CAUSE ALL THE CITIES WANT TO HAVE THE [00:55:01] SAME DATE AND THEN THEY'LL NO BID US TO BID ON CITY OF TERRELL. CITY OF KAUFMAN, WHATEVER. UH, SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH THIS YEAR TO GET IT FILLED, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. DO THE CITIES PAY MORE THAN THAN WE DO THAT? I COULDN'T TELL YOU. YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS. THEY JUST TELL ME THAT THEY GET SPREAD. CAROL HAS NORMALLY DONE THEIRS ON ANOTHER DAY. THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE A SEPARATE DAY. THEY ALWAYS TRY TO GET IT THE SAME DAY. YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S UH, I THINK LAST YEAR WE DID, LAST YEAR WAS ON SEPARATE DAY. DID YOU GET THAT? 14, 15. OKAY. 'CAUSE KEN OR KIM'S GONNA WANT TO HAVE THEIRS THE SAME DAY. MAYBANKS GONNA HAVE, I JUST WANNA GIVE EVERYBODY HEADS UP ON THAT PRIOR TO I JUST GET MY PLACE CLEANED UP. EVERYBODY DOES. NOT AS GOOD AS I DO. I'LL NEVER FORGET THE FIRST COUNTY CLEANUP. WELL I WAS REALLY SURPRISED AT THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT CAME OUT, YOU KNOW. YEAH. I WAS TOO HOLY. YEAH. WELL I DID THIS, I DID THIS STUPID THING. THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL LOOKING EXERCISE BIKE. SO I PICKED IT UP AND PUT IT IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK. TOOK IT, PUT IT ON A PORCH. MY WIFE CAME HOME AND SHE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS VERY FUNNY. , YOU TAKE THAT BACK. IT WAS STILL THREE DAYS. THERE IS WHAT I REMEMBER WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN, HE TOLD ME HE WAS GONNA SEE ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH THAT TRASH CLEAN OFF. 'CAUSE IT COST TOO MUCH MONEY. BOY DID THAT CHANGE MY MONEY, DIDN'T THEY? THAT CHANGED RIGHT OFF THE BAT WHAT THAT WOULD COST. UH, CITY OF CORN, OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF CORN, BUT THEY'RE HAVING ELECTRONICS PICK UP HERE SOON. SATURDAY TVS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YOU, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TAKE THEM ALL. YOU LIVE IN THE CITY, ARE THEY FREE? THE CITIZEN, YOU GOTTA INSIDE THE CITY. IF YOU TAKE THE TV AND STUFF OVER THE, IT'S LIKE 10 10 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR TV. I'LL TAKE MY COUSIN TO STAY. ADDRESSES COMING. OH YEAH. WORK ASSISTANT. DID THE JURY MAKE THAT MOTION? STEP ON MAY 5TH. YEAH. FOUR 14TH AND 15TH. I MADE THAT MOTION. AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR IN MORE DISCUSSION. ALL IN AYE. AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. OKAY. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROVING A REQUEST FROM CENTURY LENGTH TO INSTALL A FAIR COMMUNICATION DROP. RIGHT. COUNTY ROAD 40 23. YES SIR. MAKE THAT MOTION. WE'RE GONNA GET PHONE SERVICE WANT. ALRIGHT. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION CARRIED. ANY LINE ITEMS THIS MORNING? YES SIR. WE HAVE A FEW JURY NEED TO STAND UP A LITTLE BIT. AFRAID I'M OKAY. I APPRECIATE AN EXPERIENCE GUY WHILE, WHILE I, WHAT I NEED, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAD A CAST ON, YOU KNOW, BROKEN BONE AND HAD ITS UP IN THERE, YOU KNOW, GET A COAT. THAT'S WHAT I NEED. MAYBE GETTING WELL, I HOPE SO. ANYWAY, UH, WE PROPOSED A LINE ON TRANSFERS IN COUNTY COURT AT LAW. TWO INCREASED BOOKS, A HUNDRED DOLLARS REDUCTION OF COMMUNICATIONS TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, INCREASED DUES, A HUNDRED DOLLARS IN PRODUCTION TO OFFICE FURNITURE, UH, SHERIFF'S AREA, INCREASED POSTAGE, A HUNDRED DOLLARS PRODUCTION OF COMMUNICATIONS. THEN I HAVE A BIG ONE THAT WE'VE NOT DISCUSSED AND I KNOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BEFORE THE EXPENDITURE IS INITIATED. HOWEVER, THIS RELATES TO, UH, COURT REPORTERS STATEMENTS OF FACTS AND IN PRIMARILY IN, UH, APPELLATE CASES THROUGH THE END OF THE DEFENSE AREA. WE NEVER KNOW THE COMING UNTIL THE JUDGE'S ORDER HITS OUR OUR DEATH. SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET AHEAD OF IT A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE'RE DOING WELL IN THE INDIGENT DEFENSE AREA AND REQUESTING A LOT ON TRANSFER TO INCREASE STATEMENT OF FACTS 10,000 WITH REDUCTION IN INDIGENT DEFENSE COSTS, WHICH GOES AGAINST Y'ALLS POLICY. BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT. WELL, WE'LL LEAVE THAT IN [01:00:01] YOUR OBJECTION. SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE REQUESTS. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIED. ONE OF THE UH, REASONS SAY LEAVE IT IN YOUR DISCRETION BECAUSE ONE OF YOUR BOSSES HAS SIGNED THE ORDER. NO, THAT'S, NO, I WASN'T GOING FROM THAT JUDGE. UH, WE'VE NO, WE WE WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT. OH GOOD. WE'RE, WE'RE BUMPING THE LIMIT AND, AND, UH, I DIDN'T WANT DO A HUNDRED DOLLARS TODAY AND 5,000 NEXT TIME. SO MAYBE WE'LL BE ON Y'ALL. Y'ALL BILL GET SHIFTED OVER TO ME. THE LAST ONE IN FOUR NO CREDIT CARDS. YES. THAT $3,200 WE TALKING ABOUT LAST TIME. WHY WE TAKE CARE OF YOU. THIS IS, SHOULD, SHOULD BEEN HERE YESTERDAY. MY MATERIALS THAT SUPPLY LAST YEAR. YES. JACKIE. I, THAT'S THE LOWEST ONE I'VE HAD. I GUESS I SHOULD STAY AWAY. THERAPY. I DON'T, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH PAT BECAUSE SHE TAKE THERAPY I THINK THE END OF THIS WEEK. OH, THAT THEN WHEN YOU GO, YOU JUST WALK IN. I'LL HAVE TO HOLD ON TO RAY OR SOMETHING. OH, I KNOW YOU'LL BE GOOD BUT YOU'LL JUST BE ABLE TO WALK WITHOUT. YEAH, I COULD WALK WITHOUT IT. NOW'S NOT VERY FAR. IT IT'S, BUT I DON DO YOU JUST HAVE ONE CRO? IT'S EASIER THAT WAY. IS IT EASIER AROUND AND I, WE ORDERED SOME, UH, IT STUFF FOR YOU LAST 30 FRIDAY THAT YOU REMEMBER THAT I DIDN'T THINK TO LOOK AT MY MID ON THE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DIDN'T EITHER THAT CLOSE TO WHAT I THINK WEDNESDAY. I BELIEVE IT IS THURSDAY. THURSDAY? YEAH. YEAH, I BID ON THAT ONE. [01:05:18] OH, THE, I'LL GO BACK AND GET THAT. OKAY. SOMEBODY'S BEEN A COUPLE TIMES. TOMMY MANNING HAS BEEN PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE ONE OF BEEN HERE. LIKE I SAID, I DUNNO AGAINST US. THE JOHNNY COUNTRY COUNTRY TOLD ME THIS 44 AND HE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT SHOULDN'T ACCOUNT. WAIT, WHAT'S GOING ON? CONSTRUCTION'S NOT. WELL THE FIRST TIME HE TALKED 44 WAS TELLING WHO CONSTRUCTION JUDGE WILEY. WELL, I'M NOT AGAINST THESE THINGS. I JUST DON'T WANT THE, I DIDN'T WANT WITH A PHONE THAT'S RUNNING. I'VE ONLY SEEN HIM ONCE. YOU KNOW I'VE, I KNOW I MIGHT KNOW HIM. HIM. WELL YOU READ THAT INTERVIEW. THAT'S THE REASON SOMEBODY'S RUNNING AGAINST WELL THERE WAS MORE ISSUES FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. TAKE THIS TO THE BANK. MORE ISSUES FRIDAY WHEN SHE HERE. I SAID RECOMMENDED UP TO THE DOCTOR AND SOMEBODY HOW MUCH YOU, I RAN FIRST TIME I HAD SOME DATA THAT I HAD RESEARCHED, THEY WOULD HOUSE, WE CAN'T BUG YOU FOR IT. AND I SAID, YOU'RE NOT, I'M PAYING FOR THIS. I'M LIABLE. AND WHAT HE DOES IS HE READS, IT'S ONLY, HE DOES NOT POLITICAL LETTERS TO THE, [01:10:05] AND HE MAY SAY, MR. READ IT AND IT'S FINE. IT'S GREAT. WELL, I MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND HE'LL SAY THEN I'M ADVISING MY CLIENTS NOT TO PUBLISH. BUT THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT WILL WORK. AND HE CLEARS IT FOR YOU DOING LAWN A COPY UP ON THAT. WELL, THEY'RE ALL TO YOU JUDGE. YOU HAVE A WE MUST RECEIVE FROM THE NOT FROM A WORKER, NOT FROM THE, FROM THE FIRST MONDAY I WENT TO THE SCURRY, I GOT AN INVITATION TO GO TO THE SCURRY, UH, FRIENDS WITH A LITTLE FUNDRAISER THEY HAD IN THE SCHOOL. SO I WENT AND BOUGHT ELECTRIC DRILL BECAUSE HAVE LIVE OPTIONS AND I BOUGHT ELECTRIC DRILL AND TOOK IT OVER THERE. BUT THEN WHEN I WENT THROUGH THE LINE, YOU AND HIM, SO TO EAT, I'M GONNA PAY FOR IT. NORMALLY I GIVE HIM A DONATION ON AND THEY SAID, NO, WE INVITED YOU SO YOU DON'T PAY. I'M GIVE YOU THIS A DONATION. DONATION. FOOD CAN'T SEE OUT RIGHT NOW. AND ALSO WE SOME PEOPLE SO WRONG. SOMEBODY GAS BUBBLE WAS PRESSED UP AGAINST THE RED. I HAD TWO AND I'M GONNA AND A DETECT MONITOR. SO GAS YOU DON'T HAVE JAR. SO I CALLED THAT CAUSES ME TO, I'LL TAKE A LOOK. GOLDFISH. VERY MURKY SURGERY THREE EIGHT. IT'S MY FAULT AS [01:15:24] I'M SURE IT'S STRESSFUL WHEN YOU GET BETTER STRESSFUL. SO EVERYTHING IS DISTORT HAVE DILATE. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, ONE, PICK IT UP. I WAS SHOWING SOME IS IT REAL? THE, UH, GRANDKIDS PICTURE YOU I WAS TRYING TO PUT BACK IN HERE. I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T FIND THAT POCKET. IT'S HITTING ALL AROUND IT. BUT I COULDN'T FIND THE POCKET SAYS THAT YOUR DEPTH PERCEPTION PERCEPT. BUT YOU HAD, BUT IF YOU STAYED THAT WAY LONG ENOUGH, IF YOU STAYED THAT WAY ADJUST, YOU WOULD ADJUST AND SEE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY YOUR HANDS. BUT WE DON'T REALIZE, WE DON'T REALIZE CARRY, WE DON'T REALIZE THAT BECAUSE YOU'S NEVER HAD. AND WHEN YOU NEVER EVER HAD IT, HE HAD MISSED ANYTHING. I IMAGINE. I IMAGINE THAT IF HE EVER HAD TWO EYE VISION, IT WAS SCARY. HE WOULDN'T, HE WOULDN'T KNOW HOW, HE WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO WENT OUT, SAID THE HOSPITAL. BUT DID THEY TAKE, WHEN YOU HAD THAT, DID THEY TAKE YOU TO THE CAR IN A WHEELCHAIR? THEY DID. DIDN'T, YEAH, WHEN I WENT BACK THE NEXT MORNING, I REAL RED, BLOODSHOT RED AND SEE IT'LL TAKE A LONG, LONG TIME. COULDN'T EVEN DESCRIBE. I'VE, I'M GOOD. IT LOOKS GREAT. OH YES IT DOES TOO. THIS SIDE. OH YES IT DOES TOO. YES. IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. IT IS NOT MUCH SHOT AT ALL. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. I THOUGHT IT WOULD. IT IS NOT BAD. I BUT IT'S STILL NOT BAD. IT'S STILL NOT BAD. BUT FOR ME TO SEE, I HAVE TO CLOSE MY OH, OPEN THEM BOTH. EVERYTHING IS JUST REALLY DISTORTED. SO, BUT, BUT INSTEAD OF GOING AROUND APPOINT, WELL SEE, I'M SURPRISED HAS HOLES GOING GOOD. THEY BELIEVED IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. THAT'S GREAT. AND HOW LONG DID IT TAKE? UH, WE, THEY STARTED THE, UH, WENT IN TO CHECKED IN THE HOSPITAL AT SIX 30 WEDNESDAY MORNING. BUT, UH, THEY DIDN'T TAKE ME TO SURGERY. THAT'S TYPICAL. THAT'S ONE OF THE IMPROVEMENT. WHEN ASKED SURGERY, I HAD TO PUT IT OUT ON A CHAIR. BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT BAD. NOT REALLY NOT BAD. BUT IT LOOKS GOOD. YOU KNOW WHAT TO THINK ABOUT. IT'S JUST THE, I'M NOT SURE. [01:20:01] BUT I SAYING LOOK, THIS SIDE LOOKING AT, WELL IT DOES. IT REALLY DOES. I CAN, IT MAY, IT MAY NOT LOOK GOOD. YOU BUT YOU'VE NEVER HAD EYES. BUT IT REALLY DOES LOOK, IT REALLY, REALLY DOES. I CAN FEEL IT WHEN I START TRYING TO BEND. IT'S JUST LIKE, YEAH, I CAN'T DO THAT. I CAN DO 90 DEGREES. YEAH. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL HIM TO, TO GET A PRESCRIPTION TO GO TO BAYLOR HOSPITAL AND DO THAT WATER TREATMENT. THAT WATER TREATMENT IS WHAT GOT ME OUTTA THAT WHEELCHAIR. I MAY HAVE TO DO THAT. I'M, YES, ALL MY, IF YOU CAN'T GET IN IN DALLAS THAT WEEK, THE WEEK YOU WEREN'T HERE, I TOLD THEM GET TO DO THE WATER THERAPY. YOU SHOULD HAVE HEARD THE THEY WOULDN'T SAY THAT WOULD THEY? NOT ME. BUT I BE DIDN'T SAY THAT. HE MIGHT BEEN THE ONLY ONE. GEORGE. TURN AROUND. DON'T DROWN. THAT WASN'T VERY NICE. THAT WASN'T VERY NICE. PUT THAT ON YOUR, THERE WAS NO WATER AT ALL WHEN I STARTED CROSS THERE. I JUST CAME DOWN IN A BIG FLASH FLOOD. BUT THEY SHOULD REALIZE THAT THAT'S THE PASS AND THAT'S OVER WITH. THAT IS THE PAST. REMEMBER THAT CHURCH, LIKE CHURCH? YOU DON'T, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT RETINA, RETINA IS THE HARDEST PART OF THE ISLAND ON, IT'S A SOLDIER PART OF THE ISLAND AND IT'S THE ONLY PART OF THE ISLAND. AIN'T THAT AMAZING. AMAZING . OKAY. COMMISSIONER LER MAKES THE MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS. COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. UH, EVERYBODY, JIM RAY. GOOD LUCK TOMORROW. JUDGE, ONE THING REAL QUICK. UH, YEAH, GOOD LUCK TOMORROW. REALLY? WE WANT Y'ALL BACK. UH, JUDGE THE GUY THAT'S DOING THE MOWING AND EVERYTHING AROUND THE, ALL OF THE COURTHOUSE AND THING. I HOPE HE'S DOING OKAY. HE SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD GUY. BUT HE CALLED ME SUNDAY AFTER THAT REALLY BAD STORM. AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I'D BEEN UP HERE AND LOOKED. MARILYN HAD DRIVEN ME UP HERE AND THERE WERE TREE LIMBS DOWN ALL AROUND THE COURTHOUSE. YEAH. EVERY TREE LOST. YEAH. YOU COULDN'T EVEN SEE HE WASN'T LITTLE BUT BIG OLD. YOU COULDN'T EVEN SEE THE BUILDING. AND SO THE GUY SAID, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO UP THERE AND GET THOSE HAULED OFF? AND I SAID, YEAH. I MEAN HE'S GONNA BILL US FOR IT, I'M SURE. BUT HE CAME UP AND WHEN I CAME UP HERE MONDAY OR WHEN, WELL I CAME UP, I DIDN'T COME THEN AND SHE SAID, NO, IT'S COMPLETELY CLEAN. EVERYTHING'S GONE. SO HE DID WHATEVER HE'S GONNA CHARGE US PROBABLY. BUT HE DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT OF CLEANING THAT UP. YEAH. AND I'D ALREADY TOLD SOME PEOPLE, 'CAUSE I'D ALREADY GOT SOME CALLS ABOUT IT. I SAID, WELL, AS SOON AS UH, WE, YOU KNOW, SETTLES DOWN AND COMMISSIONER ROUND WILL GET HIS CREW UP THERE. AND SO THAT WAS GOOD TO THEN WENT. WHEN IT WAS GONE THEN, THEN I FOUND OUT THAT THE GUY DID IT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD. BETTER ANYWAY, BECAUSE HE DID A GREAT JOB. HE'S A HARD WORKING GUY. YEAH, HE IS. I SAW SOME SUNDAY. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WASN'T, IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, WHETHER YOU'RE MOWING AROUND WHAT HE DOES IN YOUR AREA, JUST LET US KNOW. THAT'S THE GUY I HAD CONCERN WITH BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT HE DOES. HE WAS JUST ONE GUY. YEAH. BUT HE DOES IT ALL. I GUESS THAT'S ALL HE DOES. SO, UH, LET'S SEE. WE, WE'LL BE HERE NEXT MONDAY. HOPEFULLY YOU CANVAS THE VOTES. I GUESS WE CANVAS. YEAH, I, I LET ANGIE KEEP UP WITH THE ON THAT WE BE AT DIRECT REPLY. WON [01:25:01] BACK THERE? UH, NO. UH, FOR SOME REASON SHE'S GOT US, UH, MEETING HERE. OH, THINK MONDAY. I THOUGHT THAT'D BE THROUGH WITH ALL THAT STUFF NOW THEN ACTUALLY I WAS SCHEDULED TO BE IN WASHINGTON DC AND THEN SINCE THEY PUT THIS PUMP IN, I CAN'T FLY. CAN'T FLY. SO I HAD TO CANCEL THAT TRIP. I'D HAVE WENT FOR YOU. WELL, I, I TOLD 'EM, I SAID I'M SURE I CAN FIND A SUBSTITUTE FOR, BUT NOT A MEMBER OF THE WORKFORCE BOARD. OH, NOT ANYMORE. NO. THIS IS THE WORKFORCE BOARD. OH, WORKFORCE BOARD. OH, OKAY. THIS IS NOT THE HOUSING FINANCE. I'VE BEEN CALLING THEM SAYING, WHEN'S OUR SPRING MEETING? WHERE IS BE SAID, HADN'T BEEN ONE SCHEDULE YET. SO HARD AND BUS DRIVER DRIVE OFF JUST TO REALLY BUS REALLY? THIS MORNING. OKAY. I GUESS SO. I GUESS WE'LL BE HERE NEXT MONDAY. Y'ALL. GOOD LUCK TOMORROW. Y'ALL HAVE, HAVE A GOOD LUCK OUT TOMORROW. UH, GOOD LUCK, JENNY. YEAH, WE'RE GOING. THERE'S THREE OR THERE'S THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES THAT THEY'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA SET IT UP HERE IN, IN 86. MM-HMM . UM, WE TURN YEAH. YEAH. MAPLE HALL'S GONNA HAVE SOMETHING IN NANCY BACK IN NANCY'S PLACE IS GONNA HAVE SOMETHING. OKAY. AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER ONE IS, BUT THE PRECINCT CONVENTION, ANYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW IT'S GONNA BE AT YOUR PRECINCT. WANT TO GET RIGHT AFTER THE POST. SEVEN O'CLOCK. WE HAD A FUN TIME LAST YEAR, UH, BECAUSE THEY, THEY TOLD, THEY TOLD THEY COULD VOTE THE SECOND TIME. AND IN FACT, YOU GOT REALLY GOT INVOLVED IN THAT, DIDN'T YOU? AND IT REALLY WASN'T VOTING FOR THE CANDIDATE. IT WAS VOTING FOR THE, THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS. CAUCUS, YEAH. OH, I REMEMBER. LIKE THEY HAD A FIGHT. A FIGHT. OH, THEY MISUNDERSTOOD. THEY DIDN'T LET IN BECAUSE THEY, THEY WANTED TO VOTE AGAIN. . NO, NO. IT'S NOT VOTING AGAIN. VOTING. UH, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY INCLINATION TO GO TO THE STATE CONVENTION, YOU NEED TO GO TO THE PRECINCT, GET NOMINATED FOR THE COUNTY, AND THEN COUNTY AND GO YES. TO THE STATE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, DID YOU GO LAST YEAR? MM-HMM . RUN BY IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING AT THE STATE CONVENTION THAT YOU MIGHT WANT SOMEBODY MIGHT WANNA VOTE AGAINST OR SOMEBODY. JUDGE, THAT WAS FUNNY AROUND, LOOK, I KNEW WHO IT WAS. I, YEAH, WE DIDN'T TURN AROUND. OKAY. WELL GOOD LUCK. AND, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'LL BE. UH, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY I KEEP MY OFFICE OPEN OVER HERE, BUT SINCE IT'S ALL COMPUTER NOW AND THE KIDS ARE ALL COMPUTER SMART, WELL, YEAH. THEY LIKE TO STAY HOME AND WATCH IT COME IN, SO, SO IF I DON'T SEE Y'ALL TOMORROW, WE'LL BE THINKING CALL YOU. WE'LL BE THINKING ABOUT YOU THEM OVER AND VOTE YOU. CATCH THEM OVER AND VOTE OVER THERE. THEY MIGHT RECOGNIZE ME. ONLY COST OF THAT PAGE CAMOUFLAGE. WELL, GOOD LUCK Y'ALL. AND WE'LL SEE Y'ALL. MOTION AJOUR MAKES THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECONDS. IT ALL YOUR AYE AYE. MOTION CARRIES. [01:30:21] YES. YEAH, I, SO IF YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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