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THANK YOU FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN ON THIS COMMISSION OF COURT, BLESS THIS PERMISSION ON THE COURT AND THE DECISION THAT ARE BEING MADE HERE TODAY.

THEN FATHER, WE ASK SPECIAL BLESSING DOWN ON MR. HOWARD JONES AND HIS FAMILY AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT TIME.

WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH THEM AND BLESS YOU.

FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THIS GREAT COUNTRY GOD IN THE LEADERS OF THIS COUNTRY, BLESS OUR TROOPS THAT OVERSEAS THAT THEY MAY HAVE A SAFE RETURN BACK HOME.

ALL THE WE ASK OUR SON JESUS NAME, AMEN.

AMEN.

THE UNITED STATES AMERICA FOUR SAINT IN I Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY, MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING.

ANY ADDITIONS OF CORRECTIONS? AYE.

MOTION CARRIES MICHIGAN STATEMENT.

OKAY.

RECOGNITION.

I AM ONE OF THE PRESENTERS AT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH TOWN HALL MEETING THAT WAS HELD THIS PAST TUESDAY EVENING AT THE COUNTY LIBRARY, LIBRARY EMPLOYEE MR. JASMINE HOLLAND, WHO PROVIDED OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE.

SHE SHOWED ME THE FACILITY, GOT ME SET UP IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM AND POSTED A SIGN ON THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE MEETING, ALL WITH A VERY HAPPY CALL, THE EMPLOYEE TO WORK FOR AND IS ALWAYS .

AND AS SHE SUGGESTED THAT THIS OFFICE TO ADVISE US OF THIS.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US ALWAYS GETTING PHONE CALLS OR COMPLAINTS AND THINGS NOT GOING AWAY.

THEIR, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD WHEN WE GET A NICE SET ON THAT BOARD THAT HIRED HER AFTER WE MET WITH THE ALL THE APPLICANT AND SHE, WHEN SHE WALKED OUTTA THE ROOM, THERE WAS NO REQUEST.

WE KNEW THAT'S RIGHT.

EXCELLENT.

SPEAKING OF LIBRARIES, NEXT UP, REBECCA SULLIVAN.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

SO YOU MADE BACK FROM AUSTIN.

OKAY.

I DID, CERTAINLY DID.

AND WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE, UH, NOT VERY REPORT, ACTUALLY, YOU'RE GONNA RECEIVE TWO OF THEM.

TWO OF THEM I'M BEHIND.

AND MY APOLOGIES TO YOU.

I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT I NOW HAVE NEW DUTIES WITH THE CITY, UM, AS YOU I'M SURE QUITE RARE TIMES ARE FAIRLY TOUGH ECONOMICALLY, AND I'M NOW HANDLING TWO DEPARTMENTS INSTEAD OF ONE.

I'M NOW DOING MARKETING AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY.

AND SO, UM, I'VE BEEN KIND OF BUSY AND LOST TRACK OF TIME AND I, I DO APOLOGIZE TO YOU.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE THERE DOES RELATE TO THE MONETARY CRUNCH THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S A LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY TRYING TO HELP US SOLICIT SOME FUNDS TO, UH, MAKE UP SOME SHORTFALLS THAT WE HAD IN FUNDING.

WE LOST 87% OF OUR FUNDS FOR MATERIALS.

THAT'S BOOKS, VIDEOS, ONLINE DATABASES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO, UM, TIMES ARE KIND OF TOUGH.

UH, WE HAVE RAISED AROUND $20,000 AND IF YOU'LL NOTE, UH, FROM THIS LETTER, UM, I, IN LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED 42,000, ALMOST 43 TO ACTUALLY CONTINUE TO DELIVER WHAT I CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

UM, WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THERE, UH, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO, WE CAN CONTINUE TO BRING IN SOME MONEY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND DONATIONS.

HOWEVER, UM, WE ARE SHOWING A GREAT DEAL OF USE.

PEOPLE NEED US AS MUCH OR MORE THAN THEY EVER HAVE.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LOOKING FOR JOBS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE, UH, HAVE HAD THEIR

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INTERNET SERVICE CUT OFF BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT ANYMORE.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A COMPUTER, THEY CAN'T REALLY ACCESS THE INTERNET FROM IT.

SO THEY'RE COMING TO SEE US.

UM, OUR PARKING LOT IS PACKED ALL THE TIME.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS FOR, UH, JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2009, THAT WOULD BE THE END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR.

OUR NUMBER OF TAKING VISITS WAS UP 5%.

THE REGISTRATIONS WERE UP 10%, CIRCULATION WAS UP 9%.

UM, EVERYTHING WAS UP, UM, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY ACTUALLY.

UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE ATTENDING PROGRAMS WAS UP 45%.

OUR SUMMER READING JUST WENT GANGBUSTERS THIS YEAR.

I THINK PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR FREE ENTERTAINMENT AND FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

WE HAD OVER 600 KIDS PARTICIPATE AND HAD NUMBERS JUST THROUGH THE ROOF.

UM, OVER 250 PEOPLE AT SOME OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH WE HAVE TO HAVE AT THE SCHOOLS 'CAUSE WE CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THEM AT THE LIBRARY.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT FIRST REPORT? Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MS. , THE SECOND REPORT IS INCOMPLETE.

UH, ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO, THE CITY MOVED US TO NEW SERVERS AND IN THE PROCESS, APPARENTLY QUITE BIT OF OUR DATA WAS CORRUPTED AND THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON RECOVERING IT.

SO, UM, EVERYTHING IS NOT HERE.

THEY ASSURE ME THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO RECOVER IT.

I'M KEEPING EVERYTHING I HAVE ON MY BODY CROSSED THAT THAT HAPPENS.

UM, OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA BE VERY HARD TO RECREATE, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

UM, NOTE THAT IN THAT QUARTER, WHAT I DO HAVE HERE, OUR PATRON VISITS ARE UP BY 9%, WHICH IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT.

OUR REGISTRATIONS ARE DOWN, BUT MOST OF THAT SEEMS TO BE ATTRIBUTABLE TO PEOPLE LIVING OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.

OUR IN CITY RESIDENTS, UH, WAY UP.

THE COUNTY RESIDENCE IS SIX LESS THAN THE PREVIOUS QUARTER.

SO IT'S NOT, BUT UH, THE ABOUT 50% DECREASE ON OUT COUNTY RESIDENCE.

OUR CIRCULATION IS ABOUT FLAT.

I WOULD EXPECT THAT, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO FUNDS TO PURCHASE NEW BOOKS, THE FACT THAT WE'RE FLAT IS REALLY PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN THE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA FOR OUR ADULT PROGRAMS AT THE MOMENT.

UM, OUR JUVENILE PROGRAMS ARE DOWN SLIGHTLY BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS CAN'T AFFORD TO BRING THE KIDS ANYMORE.

FUEL COSTS OR SUCH.

WE USED TO HAVE HEAD START COME, UM, ONCE A MONTH AND NOW THEY CAN'T COME.

THEY CAN AFFORD TO COME.

SO WE WORKED OUT SOMETHING WHERE RECENTLY WHERE WE START GOING THEM FOR RIGHT NOW, STATISTICS LOOK OFF BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND THERE WAS ANOTHER, ANOTHER DAYCARE ALSO.

IS THAT CORRECT, JOHN? YES.

THERE WERE TWO THAT HAD TO, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA FOR INFORMATION THIS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT HALF REPORT? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? LIKE SHE'S DOING THE BEST SHE CAN DO WITH SHE'S WORK.

THANK YOU.

UNFORTUNATE, AND I'LL SAY I THINK YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB IN OUR ENHANCEMENT TOO, SO THANK YOU.

WILL MOTION ACCEPT THAT.

SO MOTION.

THANK YOU REBECCA.

MR. ROUND SECOND IT ALL.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, LARRY SANDERS GONNA NUMBER THREE.

UH, MR. JACKSON, DO YOU WANT ASK MORE QUESTION? ANY COMPLAINTS? NO, NO COMPLAINTS.

NO COMPLAIN REGARDING RACIAL PROFILE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

I'M SURE SOMEBODY GOT A TICKET.

PROBABLY THE PLANE, BUT, WELL, YEAH.

, BUT, UH, REGARDING THE REPORT AND, UH, NO COMPLAINTS, NO, I'LL MAKE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL MAKE THE MOTION FOR US TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT.

COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL SECOND IT FAIR TO SAY.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

THANK.

NEXT.

WE HAVE LORETA WILLIAMS IS

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GOING TO, UH, PRESENT THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER REPORT FOR NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

YOU YES SIR, I HAVE.

I FELT OKAY TO BE THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS LEFT .

UH, WELL AT LEAST THIS TIME IT'S NOT GONNA BE OFF.

WE'VE BEEN DOING LIKE IT HAS BEEN FOR, FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

UH, WE ARE A PRETTY STEADY IN, IN OUR PLACEMENT WITH GIRLS.

UH, ACCORDING TO THE HIGHER UPS, UM, THERE IS AGAIN A SHORTAGE OF FOSTER HOMES IN SOME OF OUR SURROUNDED COUNTIES.

UH, AND ONCE WE TAKE THEM IN PLACEMENT, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF SPECIAL NEEDS GETS RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 14 RIGHT NOW, AND I WOULD SAY SEVEN OF THEM WOULD CLASSIFY SEVERE SPECIAL NEEDS.

WHAT AGE? YOUNGEST NOW IS 18 MONTHS AND HE IS UNDIAGNOSED, PROBABLY PERVASIVE DEVELOPMENTAL, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS.

AND HE IS ALSO JUST OUT, UH, BURN CENTER AT PARKLAND AND WAS STOPPING BURNS ON BOTH OF HIS LEGS.

UH, HE COMES WITH A 3-YEAR-OLD, AGAIN, PROGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS, UNDIAGNOSED, UH, WITH TWO LITTLE GIRL COUSINS.

ONE OF THEM, IT'S ALSO DED AND DIAGNOSED.

UM, AND THEN I'VE GOT FOUR OTHERS WHO, WHO HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED, BUT THEY'RE NOT TWO WARRANT PLACEMENT LEVEL THAT THE FOSTER PARENTS ARE REQUESTING, UH, TO TAKE THEM.

UH, WHICH AGAIN, THE LEVEL OF CARE DESIGNATES THE REIMBURSEMENT, EITHER THEIR PAY.

AND SO WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL OF THEM WELL OVER OUR 90 DAY, UH, LICENSING DESIGNATION.

AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE NO PLANS, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS.

UH, AND THOSE KIDS ALL COME ATTACHED TO SIBLING GROUPS.

UH, AND, UH, WITH THE STATE MANDATE TO KEEP THE GROUPS TOGETHER, THAT MEANS WE GOT THE WHOLE FAMILY SITTING AND LATE, UH, MAKES THEIR NUMBERS GOOD.

UH, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN TO THE CRITICAL POINT BECAUSE THEY ARE SO FAR OVER OUR LIMIT THAT, UH, LICENSING IS LOOKING AT US GOING, THESE KIDS CAN'T LIVE HERE FOREVER, UH, UNTIL THEY FINALLY STABLE PLACEMENT.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING THEY CAN'T STAY HERE.

YEAH.

SO THEY'RE JUST HERE.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE HAD TO, I'M GONNA SKIP DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAVE HAD TO PUT ON A COUPLE OF EXTRA PART-TIME PEOPLE.

UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN RUNNING SHORTS SINCE ABOUT THE 1ST OF JANUARY, AND I JUST COULD NOT JUSTIFY PUTTING ON EXTRA PAYROLL.

UH, BUT I'M TO THE POINT THAT I'M TIRED.

SO I DID , I DID HIRE A COUPLE OF PART-TIME PEOPLE.

UH, THEY ARE WORKING MINIMAL HOURS, UH, JUST DURING THEIR BUSY TIMES, UH, SCHOOL TIME TILL BATH TIME IN THE EVENINGS.

UH, BUT IT'S, UH, I'M HOPING WON'T, WON'T, WON'T AFFECT OUR PAYROLL TOO MUCH.

UH, WE HAD A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS AGAIN.

UH, WE WERE AT, I THINK WE HAD 16 KIDS AT CHRISTMAS.

I COULDN'T FIND MY CHRISTMAS LIST TO COUNT, BUT I THINK WE WERE AT 16, UH, HAD PARTIES.

WE HAD LIKE 22 PARTIES IN 13 DAYS.

UH, THE, THE COUNTY JUST OPENS UP TO US.

THE SCHOOLS COME, THE CHURCH HAS COME, THREE GROUPS COME, UH, OLIVER GUYS CAME.

UH, SO WE JUST STARTED JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY DURING, DURING CHRISTMAS BREAK.

BUT IT WAS, IT WAS WONDERFUL FOR THE KIDS.

SANTA CLAUS CALLED ME, HE TOLD ME HE ENJOYED BEING OUT THERE.

WE HAD ABOUT SEVEN SANTA CLAUS THIS YEAR.

UH, HAD A COUPLE OF OLD ONES AND A COUPLE OF NEW ONES AND THE KIDS JUST LEFT ALL OF THEM.

SO CHRISTMAS TIME IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS A WONDER AT THE HOUSE.

SO THIS ONE, UH, FORGOT HIS NAME, UH, BUT, UH, HE WAS TELLING ABOUT THE ASSOCIATION.

YES, SIR.

THERE ARE ABOUT 800 MEMBERS OF ASSOCIATION WORLDWIDE YES.

FROM AUSTRALIA AND EUROPE.

AND, UH, HE HAD PRETTY APP RESUME WHEN TALK, GET HIM AGAIN.

AND I, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO OUR, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, MR. JUDGE STAN MAKES A WONDERFUL

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SANTA CLA .

UH, BUT I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH HIM, SO I HOPE, I HOPE HE'LL BE BACK.

HE ENJOYED IT.

HE WAS, UH, HE WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING INTO THE ASSOCIATION 'CAUSE HE WANTED TO DO SOME TRAVELING.

UH, BUT WE, WE JUST HAD A GREAT TIME.

UH, AND ON THE DOWNSIDE, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LAST REPORT, WE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS FOR A LICENSE, UH, THAT MAY CARRY US A LITTLE LONGER TERM.

ONCE I GOT THROUGH THE PAPERWORK AND THE BUDGET, UH, DETAILED, UH, WE DECIDED IT WAS PROBABLY NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE AT A MINIMUM LONG TERM CARE, EMERGENCY CARE, WE HAVE TO RAISE BETWEEN 3 54 50,000 A YEAR, UH, MORE THAN MORE THAN WHAT OUR BUDGET WOULD, WOULD PROVIDE.

UH, AND MY THOUGHT ON THAT WAS IF WE COULD DO THAT SHELTER UP.

UH, BUT IT WAS JUST THAT IS THAT IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE IN TODAY'S MARKET.

UH, SO I THINK WE'VE JUST KIND OF LAID THAT TO THE SIDE FOR THE TIME.

THERE'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER PROCESS OF SO WE'LL AT THE NUMBERS WE DECIDE TO PURSUE THAT AGAIN, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER CHANCE.

UH, LUCKILY WE HAVE HAD NO, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS MENTAL, UH, EMERGENCIES.

WE'VE HAD SOME KIDS WITH SOME, UH, I DON'T WANT SAY SEVERE MEDICAL NEEDS, BUT WITH SOME MEDICAL NEEDS WHO, WHO KEPT VERY BUSY AND RUNNING BACK, BACK AND FORTH TO CHILDREN'S AND COOK.

UH, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, ANY EMERGENCIES AT THE HOUSE.

UH, OUR SNOW STORMS, WE JUST RAVAGED IES.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR OLD BIG, HUGE TREES THAT ARE, THAT ARE SEVERELY DAMAGED AND WITH GROUND SATURATED, WE HAVEN'T HAD, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANYBODY IN THAT, TO GET TO THE TREES, TO, TO DO THE TRIPPING AND THE ANY DAMAGE CONTROL THAT WE NEED.

UH, IN OUR GROUND, IT'S STILL SATURATED.

SO I WAS HOPING IT WOULD BE BETTER ON Y'ALL.

BUT OUR TREES STILL NEEDS SOME, SOME DIRE ATTENTION.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THREE 80 DEGREE DAYS THIS WEEK, SO MAYBE THAT WILL HELP.

WE, WE JUST GOT, JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, UH, GOT ALL THE LEAVES THAT, THAT ACTUALLY BLEW DOWN ON THE GROUND, GOT THEM ALL KIND, DOUBLED UP AND CARTED OFF.

I GUESS EVERYBODY WAS JUST SO BUSY WITH GETTING OUT AND TAKE THEM AWAY.

SO THEY WERE JUST GONNA PILE UP THE, BUT WE FINALLY GOT THERE THIS WEEKEND AND, AND HOPEFULLY IF THE WEATHER ROLLS, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THE TRAYS REPAIRED, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY.

UH, WE DID HAVE, I NOTICED THAT WHAT DOES THIS HAPPEN VERY OFTEN? I NOTICED THAT IN ALL OF THE, THE MONTHS THAT WE, HOWEVER REFERRALS WE HAD, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FROM KAMAN.

DOES THAT HAPPEN? THAT MEAN FROM DALLAS, TARRAN COUNTY, EVERYWHERE ELSE? WELL, SURROUNDING COUNTIES ARE, ARE MUCH MORE POPULATED.

UH, KAUFMAN IS VERY STRINGENT ON, ON REMOVING CHILDREN.

UH, THEY PUSH FOR RELATIVE PLACEMENT IF THEY, IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE.

UH, THEY LOOK FOR A FAMILY FIRST AND A LOT OF THE KIDS THAT THEY'RE REMOVED.

AND A LOT OF THEM, ONCE THEY HAVE IN CARE ARE, THEY CALL ME EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WHEN THEY HAVE MY NEXT REALLY DARK PLACE.

BUT BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE, UH, IS USUALLY NOT, NOT IN THE POSITION THAT IT WOULD BE SAFE IN MY HOUSE.

JUST, UM, WE, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RAPPORT WITH THEM AND IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE A NEED, THEY CALL US.

UH, BUT THEY ARE, DOES THE KAUFMAN KIDS STILL HAVE PRIORITY? YES, SIR.

ALWAYS.

IF, IF THERE IS A WAY, I I ALWAYS TRY TO HAVE A BED OPEN COFFMAN.

OKAY.

UH, AND IF THEY CALL ME WITH SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T POSE A PROBLEM TO MY OTHER KIDS, UH, BUT NORMALLY THEY PURSUE FAMILY UNTIL THEY FIND ONE.

UH, AND IF THEY HAVE TO CALL ME, IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN PSYCH.

UH, AND RECOMMEND THAT AND TELL THEM YOUR PSYCH WARD AND THEN THEM HERE.

UH, BUT NORMALLY BY THE TIME THEY, THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR OUTSIDE PLACEMENT, UH, THE CHILD ALWAYS IS, IS IN SUCH A CRITICAL STATE, UH, THAT IT'S REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A HOUSE.

UH, BUT I DO TAKE THEM

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AND I ALWAYS HAVE ROOM FOR THEM.

UH, THEY JUST LOOK ELSEWHERE.

UH, AND SPEAKING OF, UH, CPS AND BOARDS, UH, WE HAVE LOST SEVERAL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS OVER THE LAST EIGHT TO 10 MONTHS.

UH, VARIOUS REASONS.

MOVED DOWN, COUNTY, UH, CHANGED EMPLOYMENT.

CAN'T HAVE THIS TIME OFF.

UH, MY CURRENT BOARD IS ACTIVELY RECRUITING.

UH, AND I WANTED TO POST THAT TO, TO THE COMMISSIONER BOARD, IF YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR OUR MEMBERS ON MY, MY OWN DIRECTOR.

DO YOU IN YOUR, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, UH, REMEMBER HOW THEIR BOARD IS MADE UP OF WHICH PRECINCTS THEY'RE IN? UH, THE ORIGINAL BOARD, WHEN I, WHEN I, WHEN WE STARTED THERE WERE, THERE WERE EIGHT PEOPLE AND THERE WAS, UH, TWO MEMBERS FROM EACH PRECINCT.

FROM EACH PRECINCT.

UH, WE INTO, WE HAD LOST BOTH OF OUR CR UH, SEEDS.

UH, WE LOST OUR KEMP SEAT.

I NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE, COFFEE PEOPLE.

UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY, ANYBODY FROM SKIRTING READY.

UH, BUT IT, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE AS THEY ROTATE IN, IT'S FROM OUR MORE POPULATED, UH, CITIES, UH, AND WITH, AND USUALLY WE, WE LOSE THEM ONE AT A TIME.

SO THE OTHER MEMBER THERE CAN CONNECTIVELY RECRUIT COMMISSIONER YOU MIGHT WANT.

KEEP THAT IN MIND.

YEAH.

UH, BUT WE LOST BOTH OF OUR CR PEOPLE WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF EACH OTHER.

UH, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WORKING CR I'VE MENTIONED TO A COUPLE OF THE SCHOOL PERSONNEL AND A COUPLE OF THE CHURCHES, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD, THEY WOULD LIKE SOME ENTERTAINMENT ON OUR BOARD, UH, BUT HAVEN'T HAD ANY RESPONSE.

SO WE'RE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT.

WE'RE DOWN ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

UH, SO THAT IT, IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD ON, ON THE REST OF THE MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO TAKE UP ALL THE SLACK.

UH, BUT I HAVE, I HAVE WONDERFUL PEOPLE, THE BOARD, AND THEY JUST JUMP IN AND DO WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.

UH, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO FILL THOSE SEATS, UH, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, JUST SO YOU DON'T BRING THEM OUT.

RIGHT.

UH, UH, THE BOARD ACTUALLY, UH, CONTACTED A PROFESSIONAL FUNDRAISER AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THROUGH A FRIEND OF A FRIEND, UH, ACTUALLY JUDGE WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING HIM IN.

AND HE'S CURRENTLY WORKING WITH MY BOARD ON, UH, ON FUNDRAISING AGAIN 20 SEPTEMBER.

BUT EVERYBODY IS REALLY EXCITED.

UH, SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN.

UH, SO THEY ARE IN THE, IN THE RESEARCH AND PLANNING STAGES RIGHT NOW.

I DUNNO IF YOU UPDATED ON, ON HOW THAT PROGRESSES.

UH, WE DID HAVE, UH, TWO LICENSING INVESTIGATIONS DURING, UH, JANUARY AND, UH, MARCH.

UH, BOTH OF THEM WERE INSTIGATED FROM DISCRIMINATED PARENTS, UH, AND MADE SOME PRETTY OUTLANDISH, UH, ALLEGATIONS.

UH, LICENSING HAS TO INVESTIGATE NO MATTER, NO MATTER WHAT, WHAT THE STATEMENT IS.

UH, BUT WE DID COME THROUGH BOTH WITH NO CITATIONS AND IT TAKES UP A LOT OF MY TIME.

AND FIRST TIME SHE WAS THERE OVER A WEEK, UH, AND THE SECOND TIME SHE WAS THERE, UH, ABOUT THREE DAYS.

AND SO IT TIES UP A LOT OF MY TIME WHEN THOSE COME.

BUT THOSE ARE JUST PART OF THE DOWNSIDE OF THE JOB.

UH, BUT WE WORK, WE WORK VERY HARD SHA COMPLIANCE, UH, AND PROTECTING OUR STAFF.

UH, THESE ALLEGATIONS WERE ACTUALLY LEVELED AGAINST THE PARTICULAR STAFF MEMBER.

UH, SO IT TOOK A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE MORE DELVING ON, ON LICENSING SIDE TO, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS NO MISTAKE.

UH, BUT WE NEVER RECEIVED NO CITATIONS.

AND, UH, THAN THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF THE READING? CAN'T SOUND LIKE SHE BEST SHE GOTTA DEAL WITH.

I'M GLAD YOU SANTA CLAUS.

WE WE'RE GONNA REMEMBER THAT KIND OF BUDGET TIME.

I'M GONNA ONE OF THOSE REUNION YEARS.

GOTTA REMEMBER.

I RETIRED, I GUESS PROBABLY.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

BUT THERE TWO OF THEM, AT LEAST IN PRECINCT FOUR.

CAMPING.

CRANDALL FOR SURE.

UH, SCARING IF THERE'S AN OPTION THERE.

ARE YOU COVERED PRETTY WELL WITH

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TAR AND CORN? UH, GERALD FORNEY AND KAUFMAN ARE, ARE COVERED.

I THINK ALL, ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS RIGHT NOW ARE FROM ONE OF THOSE ARE ONE OF THOSE THREE CLASSES.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT.

UH, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROBIN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FELLER.

ALL FAVOR TO SAY MOTION.

CARRIE.

THANK YOU MS. WILLIAMS. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, DAVID BURN.

THE COUNTY SHERIFF WANTS TO DISCUSS, UH, APPROVING A REQUEST FOR FIVE STAR CORRECTION SERVICES FOR INCREASE OF 5 CENTS PER MULE AT THE JAIL.

DID I READ AT 5 CENTS? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, I THINK I SENT YOU ALL A PACKET, UH, WITH THE LETTER FROM MR. AUSTIN AND THEN I DID MEET WITH HIM.

AND, UH, THIS, THE JAIL, UM, MEAL CONTRACT IS BASED ON VOLUME.

AND I KNOW, JUDGE, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE OPENED THAT OUT THERE, THEY WANTED TO DO A SLIDING SCALE.

WE OPTED TO GO FOR A SOLID BUDGET NUMBER AT THAT TIME.

UH, THE, UH, 98 CENT PRICES WE'VE GOT NOW IS ACTUALLY UNPROFITABLE TO THEM OVER UNDER 325 INMATE PER MONTH.

LAST MONTH, OUR DAILY AVERAGE INMATE WAS 2 27, BUT WE'RE DOWN QUITE A BIT.

THAT'S A KIND OF PHENOMENON IN TEXAS, ALL THE JAIL COUNTS ARE DOWN.

NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN WHY, BUT EVERYBODY THINKS THEY SHOULD BE GOING UP BECAUSE THE ACCOUNT AUTONOMY.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THE, UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST.

THERE IS PLENTY MONEY IN THE LINE ITEM AS FAR WHEN IMPACT THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE BUDGET AND ALL.

AND I WOULD, UH, REQUEST THAT WE RENT THAT, UH, INCREASE THAT THEY CAN DO.

THAT'S FINE, SIR.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

WE, WE, WE DID GET A PRICE BASED ON A LARGER ACCOUNT AND WE'RE DOWN FROM THAT.

DOES THAT BRING TO THREE? AREN'T YOU AMAZED THAT THEY CAN FEED THEM FOR A DOLLAR THREE? YEAH.

, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER GALLERY.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION.

CARRIE.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

MR. GEORGE, YOUR SIR, IS HE IN THE AUDIENCE? YES, SIR.

MR. GOOD MORNING, GEORGE.

GOOD MORNING.

JUDGE GEORGE IS GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS.

FIRST, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, THE TELEPHONE SERVICE AUDIT.

YES.

UM, THE AUDIT WE ARE IN.

THE FINAL THROWS OF THAT AUDIT.

WE CALL WHAT WE DID WITH, WE HIRED DON BELL TO COME IN AND CONSOLIDATE THE BILLING, CONSOLIDATE THE DATA CIRCUITS, VOICE CIRCUITS, AND BRING THINGS TO WHERE THEY'RE MORE MANAGEABLE FOR THE AUDITOR INSTEAD OF A STACK OF BILLS THAT HIGH.

I THINK THEY'RE GETTING TO BE ABOUT THIS HIGH.

AND WHAT DON IS DOING IS EACH TIME THE BILLS COME, HE'S GOING TO THE AUDITOR.

I THINK HE'S GOING TO GALA AND HE'S GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CLEANING UP AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE REFUNDS WE'VE BEEN PROMISED ARE ACTUALLY, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED, UM, WORKING WITH THE TELCO, UH, IS KIND OF LIKE WORKING WITH A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.

YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DO A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE AND A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE YOU RECEIVE ALL THE THINGS IN PROMISE.

SO IT'S COMING ALONG WELL.

IN A RECENT BILL, UM, THERE WERE 3,228 CALLS AT 7,543 MINUTES.

AND I BELIEVE THE COST ON THAT WAS $403.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, LEMME JUST GIVE YOU A COMPARISON.

THE DIFFERENCE WHAT WE WERE PAYING IN, IN AN OLD BILL FROM, UH, AT AND T OF 1,509 MINUTES, WE WOULD'VE PAID $11,089.

UM, IN A RECENT BILL FOR THE DIR, THE CONTRACT THAT JACK, UH, NEGOTIATED FOR US REDUCED THAT DOWN TO 75.

SO IT WAS A HUGE DROP IN THERE LONG DISTANCE.

UM, AND I HAVE AN ITEM LATER ON, WHICH IS ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM.

WE'RE IN THE FINAL STEPS OF CLEANING THINGS UP, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I NEED TO BRING BEFORE THE COURT FOR YOUR APPROVAL BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR IT COMMITTEE.

NOW, THIS HAS, THIS IS NOT THE GENERAL COURSE.

NO, THIS IS STRICTLY, UM, ALL THE COUNTY OFFICES.

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YES.

COUNTYWIDE.

SO IT'S THE COURTHOUSE, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ALL THE OUTLINE BUILDINGS, ALL DID I HEAR YOU RIGHT.

FROM 11,000 75 5 DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES, CONSOLIDATING, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THINGS, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE CONTROL WHERE, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL OFFICES CAN'T JUST CALL AND REQUEST SERVICE, YOU KNOW, SO WE KIND OF BROUGHT EVERYTHING IN TOGETHER.

SO WE WON'T, UH, HOPEFULLY RECEIVE ANY SURPRISES.

RECALL WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS SIX OR WHAT, FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO AND WE GOT BACK TO THIS AGAIN.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT IS AN ONGOING THING.

IT IS SOMETHING WHICH NEEDS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OVERSIGHT AND CONTINUE WATCHING.

BUT, UM, OUR GOAL, AND I THINK I HAVE FOR YOU, LET ME JUST SHOW YOU WHAT THE TOTAL ANTICIPATED SAVINGS WILL BE FROM THE AUDIT.

I HAVE, I HAVE A WORKSHEET I PROVIDED TO COMMISSIONER CLARK.

HE'S ON OUR IT COMMITTEE, BUT JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA, UM, WHAT THE TOTAL SAVINGS WILL BE, DON BELL IS PROVIDING A WORKSHEET WITH ACTION ITEMS AND DUE DATE.

AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT IS AN ANTICIPATED REVENUE SAVINGS WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE.

AND THAT IS READ THERE, 80 3006 FIVE.

YES.

WHAT WE'RE PAYING TO SAVE 8,000.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S, WHAT HE'S BILL SO FAR.

IT'S A COUPLE THOUSAND, I'M NOT SURE.

AND HE'S DON WILL NOT, UH, RECEIVE ANY MORE, UH, PAYMENT UNTIL EVERYTHING'S COMPLETE.

UH, AND RECALL, DON BELL, UM, IS ALSO ON THE SIERRA.

HE'S A SIERRA ADVISOR TO SIERRA AND ON THAT SAME BOARD THAT I'M ON DOWN THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, HE, HE KNOWS A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE STATE AND, UH, HE'S DOING A LOT OF GOOD STATEWIDE.

OKAY.

I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THAT, UH, AUDIT REPORT.

I SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.

ALL IN FER SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE LONG DISTANCE DOLLAR COMMITTEE, UH, REPORT ON IT COMMITTEE, UM, AT THE DIRECTION OF THIS COURT, A IT COMMITTEE WAS FORMED.

THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ARE HAL JONES, OUR COUNTY AUDITOR, JACK SEBASTIAN, OUR, UM, PURCHASING AGENT CAPTAIN ERNIE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

MICHELLE STANDOFF FROM THE DA'S OFFICE.

LAURA HUGHES COUNTY CLERK, REGINA FOGERTY, UH, REPRESENTING THE, UH, JPS KATHY MORRIS, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, LARRY EWING FOR FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

COMMISSIONER CLARK.

PHIL STEIN FROM THE TAX OFFICE AND ELECTIONS AND CARMONA ADULT PROBATION, LAURA PEACE, JUVENILE PROBATION.

AND WE'VE MET TWICE.

UM, WE MET JANUARY THE 21ST AND MARCH 9TH.

UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS WE DISCUSSED.

AND IF I MAY, CAN I JUST RUN THROUGH THE ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT? UM, FIRST ITEM WE LOOKED AT, BOTH WAS THE TELCO AUDIT.

WE UPDATED ALL THE FOLKS ON BOARD WHO WERE AT THE MEETING ABOUT THE, UH, PROGRESS OF OUR TELCO AUDIT.

WE REVIEWED THE INTERNET USE POLICY.

AND IN A LATER ITEM ON OUR LIST THERE, I WANT TO PASS OUT AND PRESENT TO YOU THE NEW, UH, INTERNET AND NETWORK USE POLICY.

WE DISCUSSED INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, THOSE ITEMS THAT MAKE THE NETWORK LIVE AND BREATHE OR WORK, LET'S CALL IT THINGS THAT WERE END OF LIFE THAT NEED REPLACEMENT.

AND I THINK, UH, WILL PROBABLY NOT COMPLETE ALL THOSE THINGS IN THIS BUDGET YEAR DUE TO FUNDING THAT HAD TO GO, UM, FOR OTHER, OTHER AREAS.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT A MULTI-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN WHERE THE SENSE WAS THE GROUP OF US WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE AUDITOR AND JACK.

UM, OUR GOAL IS AS WE LOOK AT THE IT LINE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC TIMES GET TOUGH, THE VERY, THE FIRST CENSUS IS FOR FOLKS TO FREEZE EVERYTHING WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH IS ACTUALLY TO BE ABLE TO FORECAST COST SAVINGS AND REDUCE COSTS AS WE GO FORWARD.

PART OF IT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE WITH THAT TELCO BILL.

AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH FACT THAT MANY OF THE COMMITMENTS WE HAVE TO SOFTWARE THAT'S BEEN PURCHASED IS, UH, COMING TO AN END.

GSA PAYMENTS COMING TO AN END.

I BELIEVE THE, UH, PILOT TECHNOLOGIES PAYMENT IS COMING TO AN END.

SO WHILE THERE'S A LINE ITEM IN THERE THAT'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS OR

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A MILLION 0.2, THAT ACTUALLY IS GONNA REDUCE AS WE GO FORWARD.

AND I BELIEVE IN OUR NEXT BUDGET HEARINGS WITH PROPER PLANNING AND ROLLING OUT CHANGES AS THEY NEED TO BE IN A TIMELY MANNER, WE CAN ACTUALLY REDUCE GOING FORWARD OUR IT COSTS.

SO, BUT IT'S A, IT IS A TEAM EFFORT.

IT'S THIS GROUP TOGETHER WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK AND EVERYONE ON BOARD TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GET EVERYBODY'S HEAD TOGETHER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GO FORWARD AND DO THINGS ON AN ADVISING CONSENT METHOD.

THE NEXT ITEM WAS WE, UM, DISCUSSED GSA WE'RE ENDING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH 'EM.

THERE ARE A COUPLE ACCOUNTS WE'RE GONNA CONVERT AND HAVE JUST IN CASE THE REST OF THE DATA WE'RE GONNA GET THEM TO GIVE TO US.

UM, WE DISCUSSED FINANCIAL SOFTWARE.

UM, I MADE IT CLEAR THAT THE HARDWARE, OUR FINANCIAL SOFTWARE RISE UP TODAY IS IN BLANK.

WE NEED TO EITHER REPLACE THAT HARDWARE OR AT SOME POINT CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, UPGRADING TO A NEW FINANCIAL SUITE.

AND THAT'S, THERE'S NO ACTION ITEM ON THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF DELIBERATING ON.

UM, AT COMMISSIONER CLARK'S REQUEST, WE DISCUSSED MOVING, UM, EXTENDING OUR AGREEMENT WITH CERTIFIED PAYMENTS TO, UH, CERTIFIED PAYMENTS.COM TO INCLUDE THE JP COURTS.

I THINK WE WANT TO TRY AND CAPTURE THAT MONEY, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND I BELIEVE OUR GOAL IS TO, UH, ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JUDGE'S LETTER THAT'S HANDED OUT AND WHEN HIGHWAY PATROL GIVES A TICKET TO PUT CERTIFIED PAYMENTS.COM ON THERE.

SO THOSE FOLKS WILL BE ABLE TO GO AND MAKE THEIR PLEA AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

UM, WE HAD A LOT OF INPUT FROM OUR COUNTY CLERK, LAURA HUGHES.

UH, SHE'S USED THAT PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND THAT ALSO IS A, ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS.

WE DISCUSSED DISASTER RECOVERY, OUR COURTS, WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT CO-LOCATING EQUIPMENT AT SMITH COUNTY WITHIN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.

TYLER TECHNOLOGIES HAS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT CAME UP WHERE WE CAN CO-LOCATE A SET OF SERVERS TO REPLICATE TO AT A HARDENED CENTER IN DALLAS.

SO IF WE HAVE A TORNADO OR ANY KIND OF A, UH, CATASTROPHIC DISASTER IN OUR COUNTY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO STAY UP AND RUNNING WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BUYING EQUIPMENT, REINSTALLING EQUIPMENT, RESTORING THE DATA.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING, NOT, IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM ON THIS AGENDA, BUT WE WANT TO BE IN A PLACE WHERE IF WE HAVE CATASTROPHIC FAILURE, WE DON'T DENY THE PROCESS, UH, BUT WE CAN FLIP THE SWITCH AND HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE TO US AT A ON ANOTHER SITE.

UH, THERE'S COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND WE'RE WORKING OUT THOSE DETAILS.

OUR GOAL IS THAT WHEN WE PRESENT IT TO YOU, WE DON'T WANT TO ASK THE COURT FOR X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE A PLAN AS TO HOW WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA FUND THAT, HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THAT DONE.

UM, IN ONE LAST ITEM THAT CAME UP FOR DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE MEETINGS WAS, UM, A DEPLOYMENT WE DID ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO NOW WITH THE, UH, DIRECTION OF THIS COURT AND KATHY PAGET AND ALL THE WORK THAT WAS DONE TO PROCURE GRANT FUNDS.

THERE WERE A LOT OF IT RELATED TECHNOLOGY RELATED SOLUTIONS BROUGHT INTO THE COUNTY AT NO COST, ONE OF WHICH WAS ABOUT AN $800,000 SYSTEM WHERE WE PUT AN INFRASTRUCTURE IN 40 TARRELL, KEMP AND KAUFMAN KNOWN AS MOTOROLA CANOPY.

THIS $800,000 SOLUTION WAS DEPLOYED, UM, WORKS TODAY, ALL THE DATA IN PRECINCT FOUR FROM ECO STATION, UH, THE BARN AND UH, THE SUB COURTHOUSE DOWN THERE RISES OVER THIS DATA.

WE USE MOTOROLA CANOPY TO MOVE DATA BACK AND FORTH FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO THE COURTHOUSE.

AS PART OF THAT DEPLOYMENT, WE USE THESE DEVICES IN THE SHERIFF'S CARS.

THEY WERE INSTALLED, THEY WERE IN THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

DURING THE PROCESS OF THAT DEPLOYMENT SPREAD ANNOUNCED EVDO REV A, A HIGHER BANDWIDTH SOLUTION FOR THESE WIRELESS CARDS THAT ARE USED IN THE CARS TODAY.

SO AFTER MUCH CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE DECIDED TO USE THESE FOR THE CARS.

AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WITH THESE, THE DOWNLOAD SPEED WAS FIVE TIMES AS FAST.

WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE MAPPING IN THE CARS AND MUGSHOTS IN THE CARS.

SO THIS IS THE SOLUTION WE WENT TO, BUT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS UM, $800,000, UM, SOLUTION.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT WORKS WELL.

OUR MOTOROLA CAN PRODUCT IS USED COUNTYWIDE TODAY,

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THE RECURRING COST OF THE COUNTY IS ZERO AND THE COST OF EMPLOY IT WAS ZERO.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LATELY, YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE DISCUSSED.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REPORT IN WRITING, IT'S JUST, UM, YEAH, WE HAVE, WE GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT IT ANYWAY.

MR. CLARK MAKE A MOTION.

WE ACCEPT THAT REPORT.

YES SIR.

AND COMMISSIONER WILL SECOND IT ON THURSDAY.

MOTION CARRIED.

YES.

NOW CAN WE GET TO THE CHANGES IN THE LONG DISTANCE? UM, WITH OUR BILLING CHANGES THE WAY WE DIAL, YOU KNOW, CAN BE AFFECTED.

AND I, AND I GUESS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE MEETINGS IS SOME KIND OF A COMMONALITY BETWEEN HOW WE DIAL LONG DISTANCE.

NOW TODAY, OFTENTIMES WE'LL DIAL A ONE OR WE WON'T DIAL A ONE, IS I THOUGHT, WELL WHERE THE HECK, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND GET A HOLD ON WHEN WE DIAL A ONE AND WHEN WE DON'T.

SO WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR MEETINGS WAS TRY TO GET IT TO WHERE IF WE DIAL WITHIN THE COUNTY FROM ANY ONE OF THE OFFICES IN THE COUNTY, YOU WON'T DIAL ONE.

AND ALL THESE THINGS WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ON THE PHONE SWITCH, YOU KNOW, BY, BY SOME PROGRAMMING.

SO OUR, OUR, OUR SENSE WAS WHILE THE RATE IS THE SAME, WHILE THE LONG DISTANCE CHARGES AS WE SHOWED YOU WITH THE WORD ENACTED THROUGH DIR ARE VERY LOW, IT'S REALLY THE INCONVENIENCE AS TO HOW YOU DIAL LONG DISTANCE.

SO AGAIN, WHAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS, IF YOU ARE IN THE COUNTY, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE ONE ON THE PHONE, BUT IF YOU'RE OUT, YOU'LL HAVE TO DIAL ONE.

AND THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I THINK WE CAME UP WITH IN OUR LAST MEETING.

AND I THINK THE REASONING FOR THAT IS, IT, IT, IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT AND DIAL ONE OR NOT DIAL ONE.

SO WE CAN MAYBE TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF OUR SENSE WAS TO, TO DO IT THAT WAY.

COMMISSION , IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING BECAUSE YOU DIAL A ONE AND THEN IT SAYS IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO DIAL A ONE DIAL.

YOU GOTTA DIAL A ONE.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COURT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOME COMMONALITY ACROSS THE COUNTY AS TO HOW WE DIAL LONG DISTANCE.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ACCOMPLISH.

IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COURT, IS IT COST? COST? I LIKE THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S, HEY, YOU TALKING ABOUT CALLING FROM THE COUNTY OFFICE TO COUNTY OFFICE OR? NO, ANYWHERE WITHIN A COUNTY.

SO YOU CALL A CONSTITUENT OUT THERE? YES, YES.

SO IF, IF JIM CALLS FORNEY, IT'S WITHIN A COUNTY, HE'LL KNOW NOT ABOUT THE ONE.

WE'LL DO THAT ON A PHONE SWITCH.

IF IT'S DALLAS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE STILL AT THAT LESSER RATE, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT OFF.

UM, YOU'LL HAVE TO DIAL ONE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY JUST SO THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENCY WITH THE WAY WE DIAL.

I LIKE THAT.

YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING I DIALED DIAL 'CAUSE YOUR WAY DOWN THERE IN KANSAS, MICHIGAN, YOU UP THE IZED WORLD.

I GET IT.

THREE LONG IN THE SHORT .

UH, AND THERE'S ONE MORE ITEM ON THAT LONG DISTANCE ISSUE.

THE FINAL STEP TO CLEANING UP OLD CIRCUITS AND CONSOLIDATING IS WE HAVE RING NO ANSWERS THAT WE WANT TO TERMINATE.

UM, BEFORE WE DO, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS CIRCULATE A LIST TO ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND BE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT LINES THEY'RE USING.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THE FACTS LINES, LEGACY FACTS LINES, AND RUN THEM THROUGH THE PRI.

UM, BUT WHAT WE'LL NEED TO DO IS ON SOME OF THE LINES, OLD LEGACY LINES, THEY'LL DO WHAT'S KNOWN AS PUTTING THEM ON VACATION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME JUST TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT BEING USED FOR MAYBE A MONTH OR SO.

AND THEN IF THERE'S NO, UM, USE, SO WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THERE'S SOME, SOME DEPARTMENT HEAD, UM, 10 YEARS AGO INSTALLED A SECRET FAX LINE THAT WE DUNNO ABOUT.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS PUT 'EM ON VACATION JUST TO TEST TO BE SURE THEY'RE NOT BEING USED.

ONCE WE DO THAT FOR, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, OUR GOAL THEN WILL BE TO JUST TERMINATE THEM.

AND ONCE WE DO THAT, THEN ALL THAT, ALL THOSE CHARGES WILL GO AWAY AND IT'S PART OF THAT WORKSHEET OR GETTING DOWN TO THAT SAVINGS.

AND THE OTHER THING WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO, NOW THAT WE'VE REDUCED OUR LONG DISTANCE TO A MORE MANAGEABLE UM, RATE, WE'RE GOING TO

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START ELIMINATING OUR TRUNK LINES, OUR NINE SIX TWOS, WHICH ARE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE AT THIS RATE IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO JUST GO OUT PI BUT THE REASON WE'RE COMING TO COURT WITH THIS IS WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DISRUPT THE FLOW OF BUSINESS.

WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WE WANT TO PUT SOME LINES ON VACATION.

AFTER YOU REVIEW THESE LINES, YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE THEM, PUT 'EM ON VACATION FOR A PERIOD, AND THEN TERMINATE THE NUMBER OF TELEPHONE LINES THAT GEORGE IS TALKING ABOUT.

DOES IT FILL UP TWO OR THREE PAGES? THERE'S QUITE A FEW.

IT'S QUITE FEW.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD THAT MANY NUMBERS.

IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING THE AMOUNT OF NUMBERS THAT WE, THAT WE'VE GOT THAT WERE NOT USING THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT OR WHO'S USING ONE FOUR, THAT THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THAT SAVINGS COME IN THERE.

I KNOW THERE WAS A COUPLE OF NUMBERS IN KIM, THE SUB COURTHOUSE THAT ARE NOT USED.

THAT'S PROBABLY, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LIST OF ALL YOUR YEAH, THERE'S SOME THAT AREN'T, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I GET A CALL FROM, FROM THE SUB COURTHOUSE, NOT MY OFFICE, BUT FROM THE OTHER OFFICE AND IT'S A NUMBER I DON'T RECOGNIZE.

OKAY, WELL YOU OWN AUTHORIZED GEORGE TO GO AHEAD AND PURSUE THAT LONG DISTANCE INSTALLING SYSTEM.

I I THE MOTION .

I NO MORE.

UH, COMMISSIONER SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, GEORGE, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER EXTENDING TON COUNTY'S AGREEMENT WITH CERTIFIED PAYMENTS DO COM TO INCLUDE JP DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THAT? UM, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER CLARK BROUGHT THAT UP IN OUR LAST, UH, MEETING.

WE WANTED TO KIND OF CAPTURE THAT, UH, THOSE FUNDS FOR THE JPS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND UM, WE HAVE HAD FOLKS TALK TO US ABOUT SEVERAL, UM, SOLUTIONS, UM, TO DO THAT.

BUT WE'RE ALREADY USING CERTIFIED PAYMENTS.

IT WORKS WELL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN INTEGRATE WITH OUR, OUR SOFTWARE, UM, YOU CERTIFIED BANK, WHICH COURSE WE DO IT.

SAY AGAIN? WE, WE'VE USED IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS THROUGH THE COUNTY COURTS OF LAW, COURT OF LAW TAKING PAYMENTS AND ALSO FOR LAND RECORDS.

AND IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO COSTS AND YOU WOULD SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, FILL OUT A SHEET AND THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD GO TO A WEBSITE AND MAKE THEIR PLEA, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE PAYMENT.

UM, I HAVE A NOTE FROM FOREST COLLET, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, FOREST.

BASICALLY IT SAYS CERTIFIED PAYMENTS OFF FREE CREDIT PROCESSING IN A CONVENIENT CONVENIENCE FEE ENVIRONMENT.

ALL REPORTING IS IN REAL TIME.

ALL DATA IS SEPARATED BY BUREAUS, MEANING CIVIL, CRIMINAL, JP, ALL DATA CAN BE SEPARATED BY COUNTER BY WEB TRANSACTIONS.

ALL TRANSACTIONS ARE APPROVED OR DECLINED WITHIN THREE TO SEVEN SECONDS.

UH, HIS WORDS ARE, WE RECOMMEND A LINK ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE TO CERTIFY PAYMENTS WEBSITES SO THEY CAN FIND IT.

CERTIFIED PAYMENTS ALSO HAS AN INTERFACE WITH THE COUNTY SOFTWARE FOR ACCOUNT LOOKUP AND PAYMENT.

YOU GET STARTED WITH THE JPS, WE JUST FILL OUT A BUREAU SHEET AND UH, USE THE A CH TRANSFER INFORMATION ALONG WITH IT AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

UM, THEY WOULD COME UP AND TRAIN US, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE'RE ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND PRETTY MUCH THAT'S IT.

UM, YOU SAID IT'S DUAL COST TO THE KIDNEY.

HOW DO THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY? THEY GET WHAT PERCENT A CONVENIENCE FEE IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT PERCENT.

SAY AGAIN? IT, THERE'S A CONVENIENCE FEE THAT'S CHARGED UP FRONT AND IT'S SHOWN AS A CONVENIENCE.

IT RUNS BETWEEN LIKE ONE AND 3% I BELIEVE AND IT'S ADDED KNOWN TO A TICKET.

YES.

AND THAT PERSON PAYS THAT.

THEY AGREE IT'S A CREDIT CARD CHARGE.

IS THAT, DID ANYBODY TALK TO ANY OF JPS ABOUT THIS? YES.

YEAH.

IN FACT, REGINA, TY IS, WE CALL 'EM ALL AND REGINA IN PRECINCT 51 REPRESENTS THE GROUP.

SO, UM, YES, WHAT IT'LL DO IS, IS ALLOW PEOPLE TO PAY THEIR TRAFFIC TICKETS, WHATEVER ONLINE.

IT'S A CREDIT CARD.

CREDIT CARD.

SO THEY'LL PAY WITH THE CREDIT CARD, THEY'LL BE CHARGED THE MONEY IF THEY WANT TO DO IT WITH THE CREDIT CARD COST, THE COUNTY COLLECT THAT MONEY.

BUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS MAYBE WE GET SOME MORE MONEY COLLECTED UP FRONT QUICKER IF THEY CAN JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TO THE OFFICE TO PAY THEIR TICKET.

IF THEY CAN DO IT ONLINE, THEY MAY NOT, UH, BE OPPOSED TO UH, PAYING 3% EXTRA AS OPPOSED HAVING DRIVE FOR WORK TO GET TO JP FOR BEFORE QUITTING TIME.

YOU, THEY DO IT 24 HOURS A DAY.

UH, WHAT I HAD KIND OF ANTICIPATED WOULD NOT GONNA WORK OUT THAT WAY.

WELD WHEN WE, WHEN OUR GROWTH INCREASES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE BUSINESS JP COURTS, BUT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL HELP BECAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE MORE OF THESE TICKETS, ALL THAT.

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YEAH, BUT I'M NOT TOO SURE THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT.

THE MORE TICKETS THEY'RE GONNA WRITE FROM DOWN THE ROAD, I THINK THEY GONNA HAVE PHYSICALLY RECORD WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO DO DEFENSIVE DRIVING, DEFERRED EDUCATION, OTHER THINGS.

THEY'RE STILL GONNA TAKE SOMEBODY HANDLING THAT PAPERWORK.

IT'S NOT GONNA ELIMINATE THAT PAPERWORK.

THE JPS, I KNOW SMITH IS ONE WHO BROUGHT, BROUGHT THIS TO MY CHANCE.

I TALKED TO HIM OVER THERE, POINTED ABOUT IT, AND UH, ASKED JORDAN, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE ALL THE OTHER JPS WERE CONTACTED ABOUT.

AND I DON'T DUNNO IF WE WANNA JUST JUMP RIGHT IN THIS THING OR DO WE KNOW, DO WE NEED TO WORKSHOP WITH THE JPS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH IT? I KNOW THAT PAUL AND TERRIBLE IS, I DUNNO, PRECINCT ONE IS GINA'S ON OUR COMMITTEE, SO SHE'S OKAY.

I'M NOT TRYING, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DOWN ANYBODY.

SO LORI CALLED THE GIRLS DOWN THERE AND YEAH, SHE'S ON BOARD WITH IT.

LEON IS THE ONE THAT WOULD PROBABLY, I I I THINK THAT JUST GET LIKE SMALL WORKSHOP JV EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.

I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BE, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE COULD BRING IN, UM, OUR REPRESENTATIVES CERTIFIED PAYMENTS COM.

WE ALREADY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM IN LARS COURTS.

HE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME AND VISIT WITH EVERYONE.

UM, HE'LL TRAIN HIM AND UH, IF YOU WANT WORKSHOP IT, WE CAN GET HIM IN HERE AND YOU TELL ME THE TIME AND PLACEMENT WANT GET IT DONE.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, LIKE I SAID, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

I SAY IT BY GOOD IDEAS SOMETIMES DON'T WORK OUT THAT WELL.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN TABLE THAT THEN UNTIL WE, UH, THANK YOU JUDGE COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES THIS MOTION.

J COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECONDS IT, UH, TO TABLE THAT.

AND DO WE HAVE A WORKSHOP? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIE.

OKAY.

TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CHANGES INTO THE INTERNET USE POLICY.

UH, JUDGE, DURING THE, UH, TWO MEETINGS, WE PASSED OUT OUR EXISTING INTERNET USE POLICY TO ALL MEMBERS.

UH, WE ASKED THEM TO REVIEW IT AND SUBMIT CHANGES AND WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD INPUT AND WE CONSOLIDATED THE, UH, VOICE OF THE BODY OF FOLKS THAT, UH, WORKED ON IT.

AND WE'VE, UH, COME UP WITH A, UH, A SHORT, VERY CONCISE INTERNET USE POLICY.

UM, OUR SENSE WAS THAT WHILE SOME ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ONE ABOUT THAT THICK, UM, THE IDEA IS AN EMPLOYEE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS, UNDERSTAND IT AND UM, FOLLOW IT.

AND ONE THING WE ADDED, THIS WAS A SUGGESTION FROM, UH, KATHY.

BORIS WAS A GLOSSARY OF TERMS. SO WHILE OFTEN THERE ARE TERMS WHICH ARE SOMEWHAT UNCLEAR, UH, WITH THAT GLOSSARY, IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE CLEAR.

SO WHAT THEY'VE READ, YOU KNOW, MAKES MORE SENSE BY HAVING A GLOSSARY.

SO, UM, WE WANTED NOT TO NECESSARILY PASS THIS TODAY BECAUSE I WANTED JOHN LONG TO HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND HAVE YOU FOLKS READ IT THROUGH AND IN A LATER DATE, ONCE JOHN IS GIVEN THE BLESSING, UM, WE COULD GO FORWARD WITH IT.

BUT THIS IS GONNA BE THE, UM, COMBINED EFFORT OF THE COMMITTEE.

SO YOU WANT TAKE THAT UNTIL UH, JOHN HAS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AND UH, PEOPLE GIVE UH, AN INPUT TO YOU.

SURE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO GEORGE? YES.

I SURELY I MOVE IT.

WE TAKE THAT COMM CLARK MAKES THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

I MOTION.

CARRIE, ARE YOU STILL UP? ONE MORE I'LL, HE WANTED IT ALL AT ONE TIME.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IS DENNIS TO CONSIDER DISASTER RECOVERY FAIL OVER TO TYLER TECHNOLOGIES FOR ODYSSEY COURTS? JUDGE, I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, WE, UM, THIS IS REALLY NOT AN ACTION ITEM FOR NOW.

WE'RE, WE'RE EXPLORING THE FINANCIAL SIDE, BUT PART OF THE, OUR MEETINGS, UM, KATHY MORRIS, SHE'S NOT HERE TODAY, BUT SHE, UM, STARTED A ANOTHER COMMITTEE FOR CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

BUT IN, YOU KNOW, TORNADO SEASON IS UPON US.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE A WAY TO, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A NATURAL DISASTER OF ANY KIND TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION, YOU KNOW, AND DO WHAT WE

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NEED TO DO.

AND THIS, THIS IS PART OF IT, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THE FUNDING AND ALL THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THIS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA PRESENT IT, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY KIND OF ACTION.

BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS DONE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS ENCOURAGING ACROSS THE CO REGION TO GET A PLAN IN PLACE.

SO I, WE NEED TO TAKE NO.

WELL, GEORGE, Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF GEORGE, UH, WHILE HE'S HERE? IF NOT, WE THANK YOU, GEORGE.

THANK YOU GEORGE.

APPRECIATE YOU STAYING ON EVERYTHING.

OH, JUDGE, ONE OTHER THING.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN OUR MEETINGS THAT THIS WAS A SATELLITE SYSTEM, AN $800,000 SATELLITE SYSTEM.

AND WITH TECHNOLOGY SO FAR REACHING IS TO BE FROM OUTER STATE.

BUT THE REALITY IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS AS SIMPLE AS A CELL PHONE.

WHAT WE SETTLE WITH, THAT'S THIS TECHNOLOGY HERE, WHICH IS FIVE TIMES FASTER THAN THIS.

AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE, UM, JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT COSTS ZERO MONEY TO THE COUNTY AND, UM, DID IT WORKS WELL, IT'S NOT THAT GRANT THOUGH.

IT, THAT WAS ALL GRANT PHOTOS.

ALL PHOTOS, IT ENTIRELY GRANT.

HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SYSTEM WAS ENTIRELY GRANT PHOTOS.

AS WAS THE COMMAND VEHICLE THAT WE USED AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

DID WE GET THE SATELLITE VEHICLE THAT, SIR, WE GOT THE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THAT, UH, TRAILER WITH THAT, YES.

THE ONLY, THE ONLY ACTUAL SATELLITE SYSTEMS WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE TWO PHASE, WE HAVE A DISH ON TOP OF THE COMMAND VEHICLE, WHICH IS USED IF THERE'S CATASTROPHIC FAILURE AND THERE'S NO COMMUNICATIONS AT ALL.

UM, THAT KEEPS THE COMMAND VEHICLE UP AND RUNNING.

AND UM, I THINK OUR COST ON THAT WAS ABOUT 20, 30,000.

YES, THAT FOR 10 HOURS A MONTH, ABOUT 10 HOURS A MONTH SERVICE SATELLITE AND THE OTHERS AND THE OTHER SATELLITE EQUIPMENT.

THE OTHER SATELLITE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A SAT PHONE AND WE HAVE A PORTABLE SATELLITE UPLINK UNIT AND THAT CAUSED ZERO.

MY BROTHER FRANK DONATED THAT TO THE COUNTY.

SO THANK YOU GEORGE.

UH, DICK, CAN YOU BE QUICK? UH, WE NEED, WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK.

UH, CAN YOU WAIT, WE TAKE A BREAK? I CAN DO WHATEVER YOU ASK.

WHY DON'T WE TAKE A BREAK, DAN AND COME BACK TO YOU.

OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK TO ORDER NOW.

NEXT ITEM ON THE LIST IS RICHARD MURPHY AND HE'S GOING TO, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT WANTING TO CONSOLIDATE SOME VOTING PRECINCTS FOR THE, UH, MAY 8TH LOCAL ING ELECTION FOR PRECINCT NUMBER ONE.

YES, SIR.

WE'VE CONSOLIDATED THIS GROUP BEFORE FOR OUR YEARS.

UH, THE ONLY ITEMS ON THE MAY ELECTION IS AMAN SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THIS, UH, LOCAL AUCTION ELECTION.

SO WE CONSOLIDATED ALL THOSE POLLING PLACES INTO THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH HERE IN TON COMMISSIONER S YOUR PRECINCT.

I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT.

I THAT CUTS DOWN, UH, SIX OR EIGHT OF THOSE AND PUTS IT ALL IN MY FACE.

UH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

OKAY.

AND COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL SECOND IT.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT.

IT'S ALL THERE JUDGE.

JUDGE, WE'LL TAKE ONE THING THOUGH.

JUST IF THAT SHOW UP THERE IN THE REVENUES COMING IN GENERAL FUND FOR FIVE MONTHS, THEY'RE DOWN FIVE $32,000 OF LAST YEAR.

FIVE THREE.

AND THE EXPENSES ONLY DOWN 2, 3 3 FAST.

SO SHORT WISE, THE FIRST FIVE MONTH WENT DOWN 300,000.

SO THAT,

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WELL, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT JOHNNY'S REPORT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

SECOND.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU JOHNNY.

OKAY, THIS, DID YOU, DID WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT TREASURY REPORT, LAURA? I DON'T THINK SO.

I HAD, I HAD JERRY FIRST AND JUNE SECONDED ALL IN FIRST.

NOW WE HAVE, OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MR. MRS. JF AND OR JF AND MARGARET FOOT RESIDENT OF TON COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.

AND, UH, MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING SOME THAT THEY APPROACHED.

UH, MR. JACKSON, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON HAD CALLED ME ABOUT THIS AND UH, I ADVISED HIM THAT THIS GOES BACK TO THE, WHAT? EARLY NINETIES.

MID NINETIES.

UH, ACTUALLY GOES BACK FURTHER THAN THAT.

UH, GOES BACK, MR. BLANKENSHIP TRIED TO SUB THAT PROPERTY OUT THERE.

GOES BACK TO THE SEVENTIES.

TO THE SEVENTIES.

AND UH, AT ONE POINT IN TIME, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. AT ONE POINT IN TIME, UH, MR. BLANKENSHIP HAD GOTTEN BEHIND ON HIS TAXES, COUNTY, UH, FINALLY, UH, GRABBED THE PROPERTY FOR, FOR THE BACK TAXES.

AND THEN Y'ALL BOUGHT IT AT THE TAX SALE.

IS THAT PRETTY MUCH THE HISTORY? WE BROUGHT IT AT THE TAX SALE IN 1999.

IN 99.

NOW SOME WENT TO I WHAT HAPPENED IN 19 80, 19 89, WHICH HAD BEEN 20 YEARS AGO.

SOME OF IT WAS PUT ON SOLD.

PUT ON WHAT SIR?

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I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T THINK THEY EVER SOLD IT.

IT WAS TAKEN OVER TAXES AND THAT WAS ADDED TO THE SALE.

THAT WAS IN 1999.

AND I BOUGHT IT FROM THE, BOUGHT IT IN.

OKAY.

SO THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE THAT BOUGHT IT AT THE TAX SALE.

I DON'T THINK IT EVER SOLD WHAT WAS ON, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S, IT WAS FOUR DIFFERENT SUITS ON THE TAX SALE IN 99.

IN 99.

FOUR DIFFERENT SUITS.

SOME OF IT HAD BEEN ON, UH, OWNED THE COUNTY I THINK FROM FROM 89.

FROM ALL I CAN FIGURE OUT FROM THE RECORDS.

ANYWAY, WE HAVE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL GONNA SAVE, ACCEPT ON ONE OCCASION.

WE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF US.

WE HAVE BOUGHT NINE TRACKS THAT WE'RE SAVING EXCEPT SINCE WE OWNED THE LAND, UH, IN 2003.

UH, ONE OF THE REASONS I'M HERE TODAY IS, AND I'M PROBABLY IN VIOLATION OF COUNTY REGULATIONS BECAUSE ON THREE OF THESE TRACKS I TOOK ON TWO OF 'EM.

I TORE DOWN A COUPLE OLD SHACKS AND I PUT TWO MANU BRAND NEW MANUFACTURED HOMES THERE.

HOW MANY? TWO.

OH, I OKAY.

NO.

AND THEN ON THE THIRD TRACK I PUT ANOTHER MANUFACTURER HOME.

YOU DIDN'T SELL THE LOTS SIR.

YOU DIDN'T SELL THE LOTS.

YOU JUST PUT THE MOBILE, PUT IT, PUT IT ON THAT GROUND.

LITTLE PURPOSE ISSUE BECAUSE CITY OF DALLAS BOUGHT SOME LAND THAT I OWNED DOWN THAT QUARTER, THE MILE DOWN THE STREET.

THAT WAS PART PART OF MY, PART OF OUR RETIREMENT PLAN.

SO WHEN THEY PLAYED SALT, WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING WITH SOME MONEY.

NOW, I DIDN'T ASK FOR, UH, WHAT I ASKED FOR.

I OWNED THE LAND AND Y'ALL LET, PEOPLE KEPT IT WHEN THEY WERE ABLE TO SELL IT TO ME.

AND I IMPROVED BOTH, BOTH OF THE SEPTIC TANKS THAT, THAT I THOUGHT NEEDED APPROVAL.

THAT'S WHERE I MADE A MISTAKE.

COUNTY ONE.

THAT ONE OF THEM HAD ANEROBIC SYSTEM ON.

THAT WAS BRAND NEW.

SO HAD A SEPTIC SYSTEM ON IT.

WHEN YOU PUT THE VOLVO ON? NO, JOHN TWO.

DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT HE'S I DO TALK ABOUT.

I DO.

WHAT SIZE OF THE LEFT, SIR? WHAT SIZE, WHAT SIDE OF THE LOCK? TWO OF THEM ARE A LITTLE OVER ONE ACRE EACH AND THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT A HALF ACRE.

AND YOU, YOU BOUGHT 'EM, YOU BOUGHT 'EM THAT ACRE, YOU BOUGHT 'EM WITH SAVE AND ACCEPT.

THOSE ARE SAVE AND ACCEPT.

I BOUGHT 'EM FROM THE INDIVIDUALS WHERE IT WAS SAVE AND ACCEPTED, EXCEPT WE HAVE BOUGHT NINE DIFFERENT TRACKS LIKE THAT.

NOW YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SAVING ITSELF WAS.

THAT WAS THE SAVE WHEN THE COUNTY TOOK IT OVER, TOOK OVER THAT PROPERTY FOR TAXES.

NOT EVERYBODY WAS BEHIND ON THE TAXES.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

YEAH.

AND, AND SO WHEN THE COUNTY TOOK IT OVER, UH, IT SAVED AND ACCEPTED THE PART THAT PEOPLE WERE NOT BEHIND ON THE TAXES.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S AND ACCEPTED.

AND HE THEN MR. MR COME ALONG THEN AND HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY BOUGHT THOSE LAWS.

I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY S ADD A SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THE ONE THAT'S A HALF OF HALF AN ACRE WAS ABOUT A HALF AN ACRE.

DO YOU HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM ON IT? IT HAD A SEPTIC SYSTEM AND I IMPROVED, ADDED THAT TO IT BECAUSE IT WASN SUFFICIENT.

WE HAD 85 ACRES.

WE BOUGHT, WE HAD 85 ACRES OKAY.

OUTSIDE OF OUR HOUSE.

BUT ONE OF THE LOTS IS LIKE A HALF.

IT'S YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY? IT'S WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, WE BOUGHT ABOUT A HALF ACRE FROM SOMEBODY, BUT WE OWNED ALL THE LAND AROUND IT.

OH, OKAY.

SO, AND HE HAS GONE AND TALKED TO KE T ABOUT IT AND SHE HAS NO INTEREST IN PURSUING.

SHE, SHE, SHE'S BEEN OUT THERE.

SHE KNOWS THE PROPERTY AS THIS, THE JUDGE, I KNOW HER NAME MORRIS.

SO THIS ONE'S PROBABLY NEVER BEEN FLATTED AS HALF AN ACRE.

NO, THIS IS UP IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE, THAT'S AN UN VILLAGE.

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SEE THAT'S WHAT, WHEN MR. BLANKENSHIP, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BEFORE THE COUNTY WAS REAL STRICT ON THEIR, IT WAS BACK IN THE SEVENTIES LIKE MR. SAID.

AND UH, HE GOES IN THERE AND, AND JUST DOES WHAT HE WANTS TO.

AND THEN LATER ON WHEN HE CAME TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT, HIS UNDERSTANDING BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES, COMMISSIONER COURT REJECTED EVERYTHING TO GET DONE.

NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING.

WELL, MR. BLANKENSHIP BEING MR. BLANKENSHIP AND I NEVER MET MR. BLANKENSHIP, SO I DUNNO, BUT HE STILL WENT AHEAD AND DID WHAT HE WANTED DO.

HE'S SOLD SOME OF THE LOCKS TWO OR THREE TIMES TO PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

HE SOLD THE SAME ONES.

WE'VE GONE SINCE 2003 RESEARCHING RECORDS.

WE GOT STACKS AT TIME RECORDS AND COURTS HAVE COME TO THE COURT SEVERAL TIMES ASKING THE COURT'S ADVICE, UH, AS SUCH.

AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE OVER SOME THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE, LIKE THE ROAD, UH, WE TOLD 'EM THEY'D HAVE TO BRING THE ROAD UP TO THE COUNTY SPECS BEFORE THE COUNTY COULD TAKE OVER THE ROAD.

AND OUR PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT SOME OF THE STATE CAN ACCEPTS DON'T ALLOW US TO 60, THE 60 FOOT FOOT.

RIGHT, RIGHT AWAY.

RIGHT.

WE DON'T OWN THE LAND, SO WE CAN'T DO THAT.

RIGHT.

SO WE SUGGESTED THAT ONE TIME.

I SAY WE, THE COURT, UH, SUGGESTED AT ONE TIME THAT THEY MAY WANT TO TRY TO BUY THOSE LOTS, BUT, AND, AND THEN THEY'D HAVE THAT SUFFICIENT RIGHT OF WAY THEN THAT THEY COULD DEDICATE AND BRING IT UP TO AND CAN'T RESPECT NOW.

WELL WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN SEVERAL TIMES ASKING WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THIS? YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE SITUATION, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND UH, AND, AND LOOKING AT THE QUESTIONS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HERE FOR TODAY.

HERE'S THE SITUATION.

NOW WHAT CAN WE DO TO GO FORWARD? WELL, MY SITUATION AND I, I TALKED TO MR. JACKSON ABOUT IT PROBABLY SIX, SEVEN MONTHS AGO.

WE KIND OF DROPPED.

I'M GONNA GET IN REAL TROUBLE Y AND SAY YOU VIOLATED SOME REGULATIONS.

I'M HERE TO SAY THAT I DID NOT CALL THE COUNTY, UH, ABOUT COMING OUT AND LOOKING AT SAFETY SYSTEMS. I DID WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE, HAVE A GROUND IN CONSTRUCTION.

WE MAYBE I NEED TO GO DOWN, GET A RIDE AND GO .

I THINK CONFESS I SURE WOULD SURRENDER.

YEAH.

ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS I HAVE IN MY MIND IS THAT, UM, WE KNOW THAT, UH, BACK IN THE BACK SUBDIVISION LAWS ALLOW US TO SELL IN 10 ACRE STRIPS IN THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION.

BUT WE HAVE SOME MONEY IN THAT FRONT ON COUNTY ROAD 3 31, AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN SELL THAT FRONT OF 3 31 IN LESS THAN 10 ACRES.

JEFF, IS THIS IN THE SUBDIVISION OF TAN? WELL, IT'S IN THE SUBDIVISION OR NOT? YES.

WELL, IT WAS IN SUB.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS, THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

A SUBJECT HAS A NAME, NAME, BUT IT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO OUTLIVE THAT THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE OVER AN ACRE, IF THEY FRONT, THEY DON'T FRONT THREE, ACTUALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.

UM, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THE S TYPE THING IS A NON-ISSUE.

'CAUSE KATHY MORRIS IS AWARE OF IT.

AND IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE, SHE'LL TELL US AND WE'LL DO IT.

OKAY.

BUT IF IT FRONTS ONTO TO A COUNTY ROAD AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANY ROADS.

RIGHT.

JUST NO BIG DEAL.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAD HEARD IN THE PAST AND WE'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, SELLING A TWO ACRE OR FIVE ACRE OR WHATEVER UP THERE ON THE COUNTY ROAD.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED.

DEFINE TO US THAT THAT IS OKAY.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE, WE READ, WE READ IT AND UNDERSTOOD IT IN THE PAST.

I'M GONNA REFER THAT TO JOHN BECAUSE YOU COULD THAT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, IT SAID WHEN YOU TAKE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND IF I IN TWO OR MORE TRACKS, IT FALLS UNDER THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

SO, RIGHT.

AND, AND, AND RESPECTFULLY ONE, I I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY THE AREA THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT EVEN IF WE ASSUME IT CAME BACK AND I KNEW WHAT IT WAS, I, I THINK I'D STILL SAY SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE FALLING, WHICH IS, I, I, I DON'T THINK THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT CAN, CAN BE IN A POSITION TO GIVE ADVICE AS TO, UH, THE VIABILITY OF A SALE OR PROSPECTIVE SALE OF PROPERTY IF, IF THEY'RE NOT A PARTY TO, TO THAT PROCEEDING.

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I MEAN, ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS ASK, CAN WE SELL THE PROPERTY OR WHAT? AND, AND I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD RESTRICT IT.

AND, AND I, I WOULD AND, AND, AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE AN OPINION, WE THINK THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

I I WOULD CERTAINLY DEFER TO WHATEVER TITLE COMPANY WOULD SAY IN THEIR REVIEW OF THE RECORDS.

I MEAN, THERE MAY BE OTHER ISSUES THAT OBJECTIONS.

UM, WE HAVE A TIME POLICY ON THE LAND THAT THE TRACT THAT WE PURCHASED.

OKAY.

AND I THINK SPECIFICALLY THAT QUESTION THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THERE PERTAIN TO THE FACT OF THESE NINE SEPARATE LITTLE, EXCEPT THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED, EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE ON SINCE WE PURCHASED THOSE SEPARATELY FROM THE SHERIFF'S SALE.

UNLESS, CAN WE SELL THOSE DON'T HAVE TO AT ALL.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN PROBABLY SELL ANY MARKETABILITY.

I MATTER WHAT IT WOULD BE WORTH.

BUT IT'S NOT QUESTION THOUGH.

OH, OKAY.

WELL THEN LET ME ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY.

I DON'T THINK THAT COMMISSIONER'S COURT AS, AS A ROUTINE MATTER IS, IS GOING TO OFFER, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION OF OFFERING AN OPINION OF, OF WHO CAN SELL PROPERTY OR VIABILITY OF DOING THAT.

IF, IF THEY DID THAT TODAY, THEN, AND EVERYONE WOULD, WOULD BE USING THIS FORUM AS AN ATTEMPT TO SCREEN PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT THEY MIGHT SELL.

AND, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT'S A, A PATH THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO GO ANYHOW.

OKAY.

I ASK, ASK THE QUESTION.

YEAH.

I'VE NEVER MET YOU BEFORE.

ARE YOU OVER THE WRONG INSTRUCTIONS? NO, SIR, I HAVE NOT.

I WORK WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

MR. LONG IS THE LEGAL ADVICE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

HE GIVES US LEGAL ADVICE.

HE'S, MAN, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING TO, I WOULD'VE TOLD YOU WHAT I JUST SAID NOW.

ALRIGHT.

IF, IF, IF I WAS, IF IT WAS ME, LET, LET ME SWITCH THIS AND LET ME BE VERY DIRECT.

IF IT WAS ME, IF I WAS INTERESTED IN SELLING THE PROPERTY, I WOULD, UH, GO TO WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE TITLE COMPANY WAS.

AND, AND IF, AND IF THE, UH, ATTORNEYS AT THE TITLE COMPANY COULD ISSUE A POLICY AND COULD DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.

UH, I MEAN, IF THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE ACCOUNTING, THEN PRESUMABLY THEY'RE GOING TO UNCOVER THAT AND ADDRESS THAT, UH, AND NOTE IT AS WHATEVER EXCEPTION IT MIGHT BE.

WELL, IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS BE THAT'S WHAT I DO.

IT SEEMS TO BE SO THAT THERE'S ISSUES.

UH, I'VE GOT TIES ON THE COUNTY ROAD.

I UNDERSTAND THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THE COUNTY MM-HMM .

OKAY.

I CAN SELL 10 ACRES, BUT I DON'T DO ANYTHING IN EACH TRUCK.

IF I WANTED TO SELL, I HAVE, WE HAVE ABOUT SIX TO 700 FEET OFF THE FRONTAGE ON THAT LAND.

LAND THAT'S ON A COUNTY ROAD.

OKAY.

CAN WE SELL FACING THE COUNTY ROAD LESS PROPERTY THAN 10 ACRES WITHOUT FILING A PLAN, WITHOUT FILING A PLANT? IF YOU'RE INSIDE, ARE YOU IN ANYBODY'S ETJ? NO.

IT'S, BUT NOT WEST WALK IN YOUR NO.

NOBODY'S GOT EJ OUT THERE.

I DON'T THINK SO.

ISN'T THERE SOMETHING, JOHN, THAT, THAT IF THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO BUILD ANY ROADES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO, NO.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED.

THE EXEMPTION IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT VERSUS THE FINAL PLAT.

THAT'S ONLY BASICALLY UNTIL THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION FLOODPLAIN.

YEAH.

BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A FINAL PLAN.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT, WE CAN'T DO IT.

I I, I'VE HAD SOMEONE WALK INTO IT.

I MEAN, OH, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD ABOUT $20,000 WORTH OF ATTORNEYS LOOKING INTO IT.

YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ANSWER BY NOW.

ONE WOULD, ONE WOULD THINK, WHAT, WHAT ANSWER WERE YOU TOLD? YOU TOLD, OKAY, WELL, WE CAN START WITH THE TAXI AUTHORITY.

THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE STILL THAT WERE ON THE SALE SALE EXCEPT THAT GOT LESS THAN A QUARTER OF AN ACRE.

THEY OWE $3,000 CITY COUNTY, AND YOU SIT THERE, RUN ACROSS OUR LAND.

I GO TO QUESTION FOUR.

I THINK THAT IS ONE THAT WE CAN ANSWER.

YOU WANNA KNOW WHERE THE COUNTY RECORDS ARE KEPT, WHICH WILL TELL YOU HOW MANY APPLICATIONS OF SUBDIVISION LAND HAS BEEN FILED WITHIN THE RECENT SEVEN YEARS AND HOW MANY HAVE BEEN YOU HAVE TO REFER TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT MINUTES.

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NUMBER ONE, WE GET THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN FILED AND HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE COURT FOR APPROVAL.

AND THE ONES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED, THEY'RE IN THE, THIS COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE UNDER THE SUBDIVISION THAT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.

AND, UH, LET'S SEE.

THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE ABOUT THE AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION APPLICATIONS.

THAT'S ALL HANDLED AT THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

WELL, WE'RE ALL APPROVED THEM.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ON THERE ABOUT AG.

WE ARE APPROVED.

WHOEVER HIRED THE PEOPLE OVER IN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT DID A WONDERFUL JOB.

WE FINALLY GOT AG EXEMPTION THIS YEAR NINE.

THE QUESTION IS, ARE THOSE RECORDS KEPT AT THE SAME PLACE THAT SUBDIVISION RECORDS? AND THE ANSWER IS NO.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THOSE ARE SINGLE.

KK HAS THOSE.

YEAH.

WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S ONE DOWN THE ROAD FROM US THAT'S BESIDE ONE TOO.

I THINK.

I THINK OUT THERE IN OUR PART OF THE COUNTY, IF YOU JUST DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO , AS LONG AS YOU MAIL IN YOUR TAXES EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, IF YOU OWN A LOT, I MEAN, IF YOU OWE A LOT OF TAXES, MAIL 'EM IN.

IF YOU ONLY OWE 3000, FORGET IT.

THEY CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

AND YOU TELL ME HOW THAT'S RIGHT.

I'LL COME DOWN HERE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE TAXES.

I KNOW YOU DON'T.

NOBODY DOES .

THEY JUST, THEY JUST SIT OUT THERE AND COLLECT WHATEVER MAIL IN.

I KNOW.

I CAME UP HERE AND MADE A PHONE TO MYSELF BEFORE ON THAT ISSUE.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

NOW THERE IS A PART OF THE COUNTY THAT HAS JUST FREE GO.

I MEAN, I BET YOU IF I DIDN'T MAIL IN MY $16,000 CHECK, THEY'D COME ASKING ME FOR IT.

I BET THEY WOULD.

I BET THEY WOULD TOO.

BUT THE GUY THAT STEALS WATER AND LIVES BACK THERE, UH, HE DON'T HAVE TO HIDE IT.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A COPY OF THE NEXT, SO I KNEW IT WAS WELL, WE'VE ANSWERED QUESTION FOUR AND FIVE ACCORDING TO JOHN.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES WE SHOULD OH, OKAY.

THERE WE GO.

YEAH, WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'LL HELP YOU MUCH.

NO, NOT REALLY ANY AT ALL.

BUT HE WANTED TO COME, SO IT'S OKAY.

WE CAN, YOU FOUND THAT SHE JUST TELLING ME, UH, I'LL GO BACK TO ANYBODY.

CHECK, MAKE SURE ALL THE ERECORD ARE DONE AS FAR AS I DID, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.

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OKAY.

[01:32:22]

I REPRESENT THE EXXON BUBBLE FLEET MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS DIVISION.

IS THAT, CAN YOU HEAR, JUDY CAN HEAR BACK.

IS THAT MICROPHONE ON? IT'S ON CLOSE.

WILL IT FIT ANY CLOSER? HOW ABOUT IF I JUST TALK LOUDER? DOES THAT WORK? THAT'LL WORK.

OKAY.

UM, ANYWAY, I REPRESENT THE EXXONMOBIL FLEET MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS DIVISION, AND WE HAVE TWO PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL FLEETS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.

ONE IS CALLED THE EXXONMOBIL FLEET MANAGEMENT CARD.

AND IT IS ACCEPTED AT ALL EXXONMOBIL STATIONS NATIONWIDE.

UM, IT OFFERS REBATES UP TO 5 CENTS PER GALLON OFF OF THE PUMP PRICE AND FUEL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE EXEMPTED FROM FEDERAL EXCISE TAX WITH THE PROPER TAX PAPERS AND DOCUMENTATION.

UM, REALLY THE PROGRAM THAT I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY IS THE EXXONMOBIL UNIVERSAL CARD PROGRAM.

AND AS THE NAME INDICATES, IT'S ACCEPTED UNIVERSALLY AT ALL MAJOR BRANDED STATIONS, EXXONMOBIL, TEXACO, SHELL, CHEVRON VP, VALERO, UM, ANY MAJOR OIL COMPANY STATION WILL ACCEPT THAT CAR.

UM, EVEN MURPHY OIL AT THE WALMART WILL TAKE IT.

UM, SEVEN ELEVENS, QUICK TRIP CONVENIENCE STORES.

UM, ALL THE MAJOR TRUCK STOP CHAINS.

JUST 90% OF ALL FUELING LOCATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES EXCEPT THAT UNIVERSAL CARD.

UM, I HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, UM, THAT WE'VE GOT TWO MORE YEARS LEFT ON THAT CONTRACT.

IT IS OPEN TO ANY TEXAS GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO PARTICIPATE IN THROUGH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH I BROUGHT COPIES OF ALL OF THAT TODAY TO GIVE TO THE ATTORNEY IF HE'D LIKE TO REVIEW IT.

UM, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL CITIES IN SOME COUNTIES AND, UM, SCHOOL SYSTEMS, OTHER AGENCIES IN THIS AREA THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT AGREEMENT.

UM, WE JUST SOLD GREG COUNTY ON THIS PROGRAM.

THEY JUST GOT THEIR CARDS.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE GONNA START USING IT ON THE 21ST OF APRIL.

UM, 'CAUSE JUST AS A TECHNICALITY, WE'RE WAITING FOR HARRIS COUNTY TO FULLY EXECUTE THAT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AT THEIR NEXT BOARD MEETING, WHICH IS THE 20TH.

SO THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THEIR CARDS, THEY'RE READY TO GO.

UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING BUSINESS WITH VAN ZANT COUNTY.

WE'VE GOT, UM, CITY OF

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CRANDALL HAS BEEN USING THIS PROGRAM FOR, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.

WE'VE GOT CITY OF VERNON, UH, LET'S SEE, I THOUGHT I LIST THAT ONE.

PILOT POINT, CITY OF VERNON, UH, CITY OF AUBREY, CITY OF LAVONNE, UM, CHISHOLM, ISD, LONGVIEW TRANSIT MANAGEMENT, MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS IN CONROE.

UM, RUSS COUNTY ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE IS A NEW MEMBER.

SO ANYWAY, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE, THE STIPULATION OF THE CONTRACT IS WHEN THE ENTIRE GROUP OF PARTICIPATING AGENCIES PURCHASES REACH 20,000 GALLONS PER MONTH AT EXXONMOBIL STATIONS.

THEN ALL OF THE MEMBERS GET A 4 CENT PER GALLON DISCOUNT OFF OF THE PUMP PRICE FUEL AT EXXONMOBIL STATIONS AT THE NEXT PURCHASE OR ON THAT.

THAT'S ALREADY ON, ON ALL PURCHASES, ALL.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY AT THREE AND A HALF CENTS.

I LOOKED AT AN INVOICE, UM, FOR CITY OF CLAND AND, AND I INCLUDED A SAMPLE OF THAT INVOICE IN THAT PRESENTATION THAT I PUT ON EVERYBODY'S DESK.

AND IT SHOWS ON THE INVOICE HOW MANY GALLONS THEY PURCHASED AND THAT THEY RECEIVED A THREE AND A HALF CENT DISCOUNT AS SOON AS GREG COUNTY COMES ON.

AND AS SOON AS RUST COUNTY ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE COMES ON, WE'LL BE AT THE 4 CENTS EASILY.

OKAY.

UM, BECAUSE WE'RE ALMOST THERE NOW.

I MEAN, WE'RE JUST A FEW HUNDRED GALLONS SHY OF THE 4 CENTS NOW.

SO ALL, ALL IT'S GONNA TAKE IS ONE OTHER AGENCY STARTING TO USE THEIR CARD AND WILL BE AT THE 4 CENTS.

UM, LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

IT'S, IT'S A, A CARD SYSTEM THAT TYPICALLY IS DESIGNED TO GO IN EACH VEHICLE.

UM, IT'S, YOU CAN EMBOSS A 20 CHARACTER DESCRIPTION ON THE CARD.

AND WHAT I TYPICALLY RECOMMEND FOR THE BEST, UH, RECORD KEEPING AND MANAGEMENT AND IDENTIFICATION OF THE PURCHASES IS TO PUT A UNIT NUMBER, WHICH I'M SURE THAT ALL OF YOUR VEHICLES HAVE UNIT NUMBERS ASSIGNED.

UM, TYPICALLY YOU CAN PUT A UNIT NUMBER AND A VERY BRIEF DESCRIPTION LIKE UNIT 1 0 1, YOU KNOW, FORD F-150 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT WHOEVER'S MANAGING THIS PROGRAM CAN EASILY IDENTIFY WHICH VEHICLE IT IS BY LOOKING AT THE CARD AND THE TRANSACTIONS ON THE REPORTS.

UM, WE CAN DEPARTMENTALIZE THESE CARDS.

YOU CAN ASSIGN THE CARDS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ROAD AND BRIDGE TO SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

UM, OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY SET UP SEPARATE ACCOUNTS FOR EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND TIE THEM BACK TO A SINGLE INVOICE.

SO WHICHEVER MAKES IT EASIEST FOR YOU FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE YOU.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHO TO WORK WITH ON THE SETUP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT SET UP THE WAY THAT IT'S GONNA BE THE MOST BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY.

AND FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES, UM, ALL OF THESE CARDS CAN BE SET UP WITH WHAT WE CALL PURCHASE PROFILES.

SO THAT, FOR INSTANCE, IF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO HAVE A PROFILE, SAY FOR, UH, LOCAL, WHERE NORMALLY THEY WOULD NOT USE THESE CARDS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN FUEL.

THEY CAN HAVE, SAY, AN IN TOWN PROFILE, UM, THAT WILL RESTRICT THE PURCHASES TO FUEL ONLY.

THEN IF THEY NEED TO TRANSPORT A PRISONER TO DALLAS OR TO, YOU KNOW, ALABAMA, WHATEVER, THEN THEY CAN HAVE AN OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL PROFILE THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO USE THIS CARD FOR, UH, EMERGENCY REPAIRS OR FLAT TIRE CHANGES OR ANYTHING THAT MIGHT COME UP ON THE ROAD.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE.

UM, YOU CAN EITHER SET UP PROFILES BY THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BY THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES.

UM, MAYBE THE BIG VEHICLES HAVE ONE PROFILE, THE SMALLER VEHICLES HAVE ANOTHER PROFILE, BUT I CAN WORK WITH SOMEBODY IN EACH DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER'S GONNA BE ADMINISTERING THIS PROGRAM TO HELP THEM SET UP THESE PROFILES AND ASSIGN THEM TO THE CARDS.

AND THEN ALSO, ALL OF THESE CARDS CAN BE MANAGED ONLINE.

YOU CAN MANAGE YOUR OWN ACCOUNT, YOU CAN ADD CARDS, YOU CAN DELETE CARDS, YOU CAN ADD DRIVERS AND THEIR DRIVER ID NUMBERS INSTANTLY, AND THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY GO OUT AND BUY FUEL ON THE CARDS IF YOU HAVE A NEW EMPLOYEE, IF YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S BEEN FIRED OR HAS QUIT FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU CAN GO IN INSTANTLY AND TURN THEIR ID NUMBER OFF SO THEY CAN NO LONGER USE THE CARDS.

SO IT'S A, IT IS A GREAT WAY TO, UM, ALWAYS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR FLEET AND BE ABLE TO MANAGE THOSE CARDS AND, AND HANDLE IT WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT, YOU KNOW, CALL AN 800 NUMBER AND TALK TO SOMEBODY AND WAIT FOR THEM TO

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DO IT.

YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF IT YOURSELF.

THEN AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, WE DO HAVE AN 800 NUMBER CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT'S AVAILABLE 24 7.

SO YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

UM, I INCLUDED IN THIS PACKAGE, UM, THE DETAILS OF THIS HARRIS COUNTY DID, I MEAN, UH, CONTRACT AND HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

UM, WE ALSO OFFER, THIS IS A REALLY A SEPARATE PROGRAM, BUT I, I HEARD, UM, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, SATELLITE SYSTEMS AND THINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ANYTHING YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN, BUT WE ALSO OFFER, UM, WE SMART GPS TRACKING AND DIAGNOSTIC SYSTEMS, UM, WHICH IS A GREAT WAY TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOUR VEHICLES ARE ALL THE TIME.

AND IT'S, IT'S A REAL GOOD TOOL TO USE AS FAR AS, UH, REDUCING YOUR INSURANCE COSTS ON THE VEHICLE, BECAUSE IF THE VEHICLE IS LOST OR STOLEN, YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND IT.

UM, I KNOW IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD TOOL TO ALWAYS KNOW WHERE YOUR PEOPLE ARE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE SYSTEM YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IS DOING TRACKING OR IF IT'S JUST THE MAPPING AND THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, HOW THAT COMPARES, BUT I DID WANNA MENTION THAT WE DO HAVE THAT, IF Y'ALL WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AT ANOTHER TIME.

UM, IN HERE IS THE REBATE SCHEDULE THAT SHOWS THE 20,000 GALLONS NEEDED TO REACH THE 4 CENTS ON THIS CONTRACT.

AND AS I SAID, WE'RE ONLY IN FEW HUNDRED GALLONS AWAY FROM THAT NOW.

SO AS SOON AS SOMEBODY ELSE STARTS USING THEIR CARDS, WE SHOULD BE THERE.

UM, THE NEXT PAGE IS JUST, UM, A WORKSHEET THAT I TYPICALLY DO, AND I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID, BUT I CUT, I CUT OFF THE FIRST TWO ROWS OF MY SPREADSHEET.

SO I DID THIS PROJECTION BASED ON A HUNDRED VEHICLES.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AT THE TIME I DID THIS, I WASN'T AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAD, UH, ABOVE GROUND STORAGE TANKS FOR BULK FUEL.

SO I, I GET A PROJECTION BASED ON ALL OF THE PURCHASES RATHER THAN THIS BEING USED KIND OF AS A, AN OFFSITE TOOL WHEN THEY'RE NOT FUELING AT THE HEADQUARTERS.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING GOOD TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS IF AND WHEN YOU SHOULD EVER DECIDE THAT YOU WANNA GET OUT OF THE TANK BUSINESS AND THE, AND THE BULK FUEL INVENTORY BUSINESS.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST AN EXAMPLE, I, I USED A HUNDRED VEHICLES IN ABOUT 12,800 GALLON FUEL A MONTH, AND I ESTIMATED YOU COULD SAVE ABOUT $460 A MONTH ON THROUGH THE REBATES THAT THIS CONTRACT OFFERS.

UM, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, AND I, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY GALLONS Y'ALL WOULD ACTUALLY PURCHASE ON THIS CARD PROGRAM, UM, SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO UTILIZE THIS PROGRAM.

SO IF I KNEW THAT NUMBER, I COULD DO A MORE ACCURATE SAVINGS PROJECTION FOR YOU.

UM, HOW DOES THAT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE TAXES THAT WE DON'T PAY AS A PUBLIC ENTITY? WELL, THE WAY THE TAXES, IF YOU LOOK IN THERE, WHEN WE GET TO THE SAMPLE INVOICE THAT I INCLUDED IN THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT ACTUALLY SHOWS ON THE INVOICE THAT YOU WERE NOT CHARGED FOR THOSE TAXES.

UM, IT ACTUALLY IS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM ON THAT INVOICE.

OKAY.

SO WHEN YOU PRESENT THAT CARD THAT YEAH, SEE WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IS IF, IF YOU OPEN THEM AN ACCOUNT WITH US, OUR TAX COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT WOULD SEND YOU A TAX PACKAGE.

AND I MEAN, IT BASICALLY JUST WANTS TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A COUNTY GOVERNMENT, YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM FEDERAL EXCISE TAX AND YOU JUST HAVE TO SIGN IT.

IT'S JUST A STANDARD TAX FORM THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO FILL OUT AND IT HAS TO BE RENEWED ONCE A YEAR.

YOU FAX THAT BACK TO OUR TAX COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT AND THEN YOUR CARDS ARE CODED ON THE MAG STRIKE THAT SAYS THAT YOU ARE A GOVERNMENT AGENCY AND YOU'RE EXEMPT FROM FEDERAL TAXES SO THAT WHEN IT'S READ THROUGH THE MACHINE, IT AUTOMATICALLY KNOWS THAT YOU'RE TAX EXEMPT.

SO IT TAKES IT OFF THE PURCHASE ON THE INVOICE.

JACK.

YES, SIR.

HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY OR IS THIS PART OF, I KNOW ONE DAY WHEN I WENT TO THE EYE DOCTOR, Y'ALL HAD HAD A DISCUSSION OVER, IS THIS WHAT Y'ALL WERE DISCUSSING? NO, IT WAS ANOTHER PROGRAM JUST LIKE THIS WITH ANOTHER COMPANY.

OKAY.

I, I HAVE SEEN IT.

JUDGE JACK'S OUR FIRST THING.

OKAY.

UM, WELL, I APOLOGIZE, JACK, THAT I HAVE NOT MET YOU AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU FIRST.

AND LET'S SEE.

I THINK PROBABLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PROGRAM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT IN OUR PROGRAM, ONE DIFFERENCE IS, UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT I KNOW IN A LOT OF CASES, UM, THEY USUALLY PREFER WEEKLY PAYMENTS OR EVERY OTHER WEEK PAYMENTS.

UM, OUR CONTRACT IS FOR CALENDAR MONTH BILLING.

SO YOU PAY ONCE A MONTH AND THE REPORTING AND EVERYTHING IS FOR THE FULL CALENDAR MONTH FROM THE FIRST DAY TO THE END OF THE MONTH, WHICH I KNOW SOMETIMES IS AN ISSUE FOR GOVERNMENT

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AGENCIES.

THEY LIKE TO SEE THE WHOLE CALENDAR MONTH.

SOME PROGRAMS CUT IT OFF, YOU KNOW, THE 25TH OR 26TH OF THE MONTH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, ANOTHER DIFFERENCE I THINK BETWEEN OUR PROGRAM AND THE OTHER PROGRAM YOU LOOKED AT, UM, TYPICALLY IT IS A COST PLUS CONTRACT FOR THE OTHER PROGRAM, WHICH SOUNDS REAL GOOD BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHOLESALE COST OF FUEL PLUS A FIXED MARKUP, UM, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE SOME STABILITY IN THE PRICING, WHICH REALLY ISN'T THE CASE.

THE ONLY STABILITY YOU HAVE IS IN THAT FIXED MARKUP.

THE COST OF FUEL CHANGES DAILY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY BILL YOU OFF OF A WHOLESALE COST ON THURSDAY OF EACH WEEK, AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS FIXED MARKUP ABOVE THAT COST.

WELL, LIKE I SAID, COST PLUS ALWAYS SOUNDS GOOD, BUT WHEN YOU START TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT COMPARES TO RETAIL, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE TIME TO GO THROUGH EVERY INDIVIDUAL RECEIPT AND SEE WHAT THE RETAIL PRICE WAS AND COMPARE IT TO WHAT YOU WOULD BILL IT, IT, IT JUST MAKES IT HARD TO VERIFY WHAT YOU'RE BEING BILLED.

UM, WITH OUR PROGRAM, IT'S REAL SIMPLE.

YOU JUST LOOK AT THE SIGN, WHATEVER THE SIGN SAYS, IF YOU'RE IN AN EXXON MOBIL, YOU'RE GONNA PAY THAT MINUS 4 CENTS AND MINUS THE FEDERAL EXCISE TAX.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PAY.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO A NON EXXON MOBIL STATION, WHATEVER THE PUMP PRICE IS, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PAY MINUS TAXES.

SO IT'S, IT'S A REAL SIMPLE, EASY PROGRAM TO UNDERSTAND AND VERIFY.

THERE'S NO HIDDEN FEES.

UM, WE DON'T CHARGE ON THIS CONTRACT.

YOU DON'T PAY ANY CARD FEES, YOU DON'T PAY ANY TRANSACTION FEES, YOU DON'T PAY ANY PAPER REPORT FEES.

YOU DON'T PAY PAPER CHECK FEES ON SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS. THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES AS NO FEE PROGRAMS, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S AS LONG AS YOU PAY THEM ELECTRONICALLY OR, OR YOU DON'T GET PAPER REPORTS OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME KIND OF LITTLE FEE THAT COMES UP LATER THAT YOU DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE GONNA HAVE TO PAY.

SO WITH US, IT'S, IT'S A NO FEE PROGRAM.

THE ONLY TIME YOU'RE GONNA PAY A FEE IS IF YOU DON'T PAY US WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, IF YOU'RE GONNA PAY A LATE FEE.

AND IF YOU DON'T PAY US WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, YOU'RE GONNA PAY A LATE FEE, PLUS THEY'RE GONNA TAKE YOUR REBATES AWAY FROM YOU.

SO, BUT WE GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME TO PAY YOUR BILL.

YOU HAVE PLENTY OF OPTIONS TO PAY IT.

YOU CAN MAIL A CHECK, YOU CAN PAY IT ONLINE, YOU CAN SET UP ELECTRONIC FUND PAYMENTS.

IF WE'RE SHORT ONE MONTH, WE WAIT SIX MONTHS TO PAY IT IF WE NEED TO.

NOT SO MUCH , NOT SO MUCH.

THEY, THEY, THE CREDIT DEPARTMENT'S NOT REAL FORGIVING ABOUT THAT.

BUT NO, I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING GOING ON .

NO, NO.

I WISH I COULD SAY THAT WAS THE CASE, BUT IT IS NOT.

WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

YOU SAID THAT YOU COMPUTED THIS PROPOSAL BASED UPON THE FACT THAT THAT WAS BEFORE YOU KNEW WE HAD OVERHEAD TAX.

RIGHT NOW, UH, KNOWING THAT WE'VE GOT OVERHEAD TANKS NOW, DO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE HERE, WOULD THAT STILL, THE DISCOUNTS AND EVERYTHING STILL BE COMPUTED? YEAH, YOU'RE STILL GONNA GET THE 4 CENT DISCOUNT, WHETHER YOU IF THEY WERE DOING IT, YEAH, THEY TAKE A TRIP.

RIGHT, BECAUSE, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE 4 CENT DISCOUNT IS BASED ON THE ENTIRE GROUP.

EVERYBODY THAT IS ON THIS HARRIS COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION CONTRACT, IT'S NOT JUST YOU.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR PURCHASES WILL JUST SIMPLY GO INTO THE POOL WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

IT'S A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING DEAL.

SO, LIKE I SAID, AS SOON AS GREG COUNTY STARTS USING THEIR CARDS, UM, THEY'RE GONNA PUT US OVER THE 4 CENTS BY THEMSELVES EASILY.

AND THEN I'VE GOT ANOTHER ACCOUNT THAT I JUST SIGNED UP THAT I, I JUST ORDERED THEIR CARDS TODAY.

IT'S 56 CARDS AND I KNOW THAT BETWEEN THEM AND GREG COUNTY WE'RE GONNA BE AT THE 4 CENTS.

DID YOU GO TO COMMISSIONER COUNTY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? YOU KNOW, I DID NOT, I DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT.

UM, I DID, I WENT AND SPOKE WITH THE PURCHASING AGENT.

I WENT AND SPOKE WITH THE SHERIFF.

I SPOKE WITH MOST OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IN A MEETING AND, UM, THEY PRESENTED IT TO THE COURT AND THEN THE COURT APPROVED THE, IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT.

AND, UM, AS I SAID, WE, UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID THIS AT THE END OF FEBRUARY AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, HARRIS COUNTY DID NOT HAVE A BOARD MEETING IN MARCH.

SO THEY'VE GOT THE CARDS AND THEY'RE SITTING THERE READY TO USE 'EM.

BUT UNTIL HARRIS COUNTY HAS THEIR NEXT BOARD MEETING APRIL 20TH AND EXECUTES THAT INTERLOCAL THERE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA START USING THEIR CARDS.

YOU'RE CALLING THE BOARD MEETING YOU TALKING ABOUT COMMISSIONER'S COURT? I'M TALKING ABOUT HARRIS COUNTY, UH, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION BOARD.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH.

GREG COUNTY'S ALREADY APPROVED.

WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR HARRIS COUNTY TO FINALIZE IT AND FULLY EXECUTE IT SO THEY GET THE AGREEMENT AND THEN ONCE THEY GET THE FULLY EX EXECUTED INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BACK, WHICH SHOULD BE ON THE 21ST, THEY'LL START USING THEIR CARDS.

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I GOT A QUESTION.

SURE.

IN THE BACK, IN THE VERY BACK, UHHUH, YOU SHOW UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTANCE SITES IN KAMAN COUNTY, RIGHT? UH, I KNOW IT, THE COUNTY BORDERS LAW, RIGHT.

UH, HAS FOUR LOCATIONS IN KAMAN COUNTY.

MM-HMM .

UH, AND I KNOW THERE'S A MINIMUM OF TWO EXXONS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY THAT'S NOT ON THIS DUTY.

WELL, AND THIS LIST IS NOT ALWAYS 100% UP TO DATE.

SO THIS IS JUST WHAT I PRINTED OFF OF THE, UM, INTERNET.

THERE'S A, A PLACE WHERE I CAN GO TO THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WISH THEY DID A BETTER JOB OF KEEPING IT UP TO DATE, BUT IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME.

UM, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN IS THAT THE EXXON STATIONS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY ARE YES, SIR.

ANY EXXON OR MOBIL BRANDING STATION WILL ACCEPT THESE CARDS.

AND LIKE I SAID, ALL MAJOR BRANDS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER PROGRAM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE LOOKED AT IS THAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE JUST TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN THE WAY IN HOW WE, UM, ESTABLISH OUR ACCEPTANCE LOCATIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT WILL ACCEPT OUR CARDS.

THE OTHER PROGRAM HAS TO NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH THE LOCAL STATION OWNER, OR LIKE A FUEL DISTRIBUTOR THAT MAYBE OWNS SEVERAL STORES.

THEY GO TO THEM AND THEN THEY NEGOTIATE WITH THEM TO ACCEPT THEIR CARDS AS PAYMENT.

WE DO IT JUST THE OPPOSITE.

WE MAKE OUR DEALS WITH MAJOR OIL COMPANIES.

WE HAVE AN, UH, AN ARRANGEMENT WITH SHELL, WITH CHEVRON, WITH TEXACO.

SO OURS IS A LITTLE MORE STABLE BECAUSE YES, THESE PEOPLE CAN SAY, I DO NOT WANT TO ACCEPT THESE CARDS.

BUT THAT IS A VERY, VERY, VERY RARE OCCURRENCE BECAUSE IT COMES, THEY GET THEIR MONEY FROM US EVERY DAY.

UM, WITH THE OTHER PROGRAM, THEY GET PAID ONCE A WEEK.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU MAY SEND SOMEBODY TO ONE OF THESE STATIONS AND MAYBE THEY ACCEPTED THE CARD YESTERDAY AND YOU GO TODAY AND THEY DON'T ACCEPT THE CARD ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY GOT MAD OR, OR IT'S TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN ON 'EM TO CARRY THAT MONEY FOR A WEEK WITH US.

THEY GET PAID EVERY DAY.

SO, UM, IT'S VERY, VERY RARE FOR THEM TO SAY THEY DO NOT WANT TO ACCEPT OUR PRODUCT.

MAY, MAY I ASK? YEAH, SURE.

THE REBATE PER GALLON, IS THAT JUST AT EXXON MO STATION? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

IT IS ONLY AT EXXON MOBIL STATION.

SO THEREFORE YOU DO HAVE AN INCENTIVE, RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY FROM THE EXXON AND MOBILS WHENEVER AND WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO USE COMMON SENSE.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA DRIVE 20 MILES OUTTA YOUR WAY TO SAVE 4 CENTS, ARE YOU REALLY SAVING ANY MONEY? SO THAT'S WHAT'S SO GOOD ABOUT THE UNIVERSAL CARD PROGRAM, IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A, A CONSTABLE, MAYBE THAT'S IN AN AREA WHERE MAYBE THERE'S NOT A, AN EXXON OR MOBILE STATION REAL CONVENIENT TO HIM AND HE HAVE TO DRIVE AWAY OUT OF HIS WAY, THEN THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT.

HE HAS THE CHOICE OF GOING TO A WALMART.

HE HAS THE CHOICE OF GOING TO THE CHEAPEST PLACE IN TOWN, AND HE CAN USE HIS CARD AT ANY OF THOSE PLACES.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, USE COMMON SENSE.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DRIVE, YOU KNOW, MILES AND MILES OUTTA YOUR WAY TO GO TO AN EXXON, THEN THEN JUST GO TO THE CLOSEST, MOST CONVENIENT, SAFEST, CLEANEST, CHEAPEST PLACE.

SO IT JUST GIVES YOU A LOT OF OPTIONS.

UH, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT CUT .

UM, NOW I DID PUT TWO LISTS IN HERE.

ONE SHOWS YOU THE EXXONMOBIL STATIONS WITHIN 50 MILE RADIUS, UM, OF THE ADDRESS HERE.

AND IT SHOWS I HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IN STATIONS THAT HAVE DIESEL FUEL.

I HIGHLIGHTED IN STATIONS THAT HAVE 24 HOUR PAY AT THE PUMP ACCESS.

AND THEN I HIGHLIGHTED THE ONES THAT WERE WITHIN FOUR MILE RADIUS OF HERE.

UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S, ACCORDING TO THIS, THERE'S THREE STATIONS IN LESS THAN FOUR MILES A YEAR.

UM, AND THEN, AND THEN THE OTHER LIST IS THE UNIVERSAL ACCEPTANCE SITES, WHICH SHOULD SHOW MOST STATIONS.

UM, BUT AS YOU POINTED OUT, THERE'S A COUPLE OF EXXONS MISSING OFF OF HERE, WHICH IS GOOD TO KNOW.

I'D RATHER THERE BE MORE THAN LESS.

SO YEAH, ONE OF THE MAYBANK, THE MAYBANK ONE THAT'S IN HERE, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE CAN, AND THAT'S A BORDER OF THE LONG STATION UHHUH, .

HARVEY'S IN THERE.

HARVEY'S, I DIDN'T SEE HARVEY'S FIRST.

SHE'S TALKED ABOUT MM-HMM .

AND ALSO I PUT AN EXAMPLE OF, OF THE REPORTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT ARE AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED BY THE SYSTEM, UM, THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE AS A MAIL OR YOU CAN VIEW THEM AND PRINT THEM FROM THE ONLINE PROGRAM.

AND THEN I ALSO INCLUDED A SAMPLE OF A DOWNLOAD WHERE YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR INVOICE AND IF YOU WANT TO DOWNLOAD ALL THOSE

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TRANSACTIONS, THAT TRANSACTION DATA INTO QUICKBOOKS OR EXCEL, UM, YOU CAN DO THAT.

AND THAT WAY YOU CAN MANIPULATE THAT DATA ANY WAY YOU NEED TO.

YOU CAN LOOK AT IT BY DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT BY VEHICLE, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT BY EMPLOYEE, UH, DATE TIME, WHAT THEY BOUGHT.

UH, ANY WAY THAT YOU NEED TO MANAGE THAT DATA, YOU CAN DO IT ONCE YOU DOWNLOAD IT, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT TOOL.

I THINK, I THINK MOST OF MY CLIENTS REALLY UTILIZE THAT A LOT.

I DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? Y YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA ONE.

UH, I ACTUALLY HAVE THIS ONE THAT I'M READING RIGHT NOW THAT I CAN LEAVE WITH YOU.

COULD YOU LEAVE IT WITH JACK? YES.

WE ALL HAVE ONE UP HERE.

YES.

JACK NEEDS TO, I'M SO SORRY.

REVIEW THAT AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DECISION Y'ALL MADE ON THAT PRESENTATION.

LISTEN TO IT.

I JUST HAD ONE OBSERVATION.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS MORNING, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXXON STATION IN HERE IN TOWN WAS, BUT, UH, I KNOW WITH KEMP, THE EXXON STATION PRICE WAS LIKE 2 71 A GALLON.

AND AT PHILLIPS THIS MORNING, 2 49 MM-HMM .

AND I BELIEVE THEY CARRIED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SAME WITH THE OTHER CARS.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, SO THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE 4 CENTS OF DISCOUNT, YOU KNOW.

HEY, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.

AND YOU KNOW, I HEAR THIS COMMENT A LOT AND I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THAT GUY AT THAT STATION THAT JUST PRICES HIMSELF TOTALLY OUT OF THE MARKET.

AND I CAN'T DENY THAT THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN OCCASIONALLY, BUT I THINK AS A RULE, I THINK THAT'S MORE THE EXCEPTION THAN THE RULE.

AND I THINK IF YOU REALLY START LOOKING AND PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PRICES, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA FIND THAT IN MOST CASES, THE EXXONS AND MOBILS ARE VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE WITH THE OTHER MAJOR BRAND STATIONS IN THAT AREA.

NOW THIS GUY IN KEMP, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS, MAYBE HE'S JUST TOTALLY NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S NO REASONING FOR THAT WHATSOEVER.

HE HADN'T CHANGED HIS PRICES IN A WHILE.

DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS, HIS PROBLEM IS.

WELL, YOUR SYSTEM WORKED WITH THE, UH, TANKS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE IF THEY'RE TRYING TO CHECK THE TRACK FUEL CONSUMPTION, YES.

MM-HMM .

AND DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF, UH, CARBURETOR EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE.

BUT I, IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH MOST OF THE CART READER EQUIPMENT THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY.

GAS BOYS AND PETRO, AND YOU KNOW, GIL BARCO AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN I HAVE A LIST OF THEM, A MILE LONG, VITA ROOF SYSTEMS, ALL THOSE PROGRAMS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

UM, AND WE CHARGE, JUST LIKE THE OTHER PROGRAM DOES.

WE CHARGE A, A FEE TO ACCOUNT FOR IT.

IF YOU OWN YOUR OWN FUEL AND ALL THAT STUFF, WE JUST CHARGE YOU A FEE TO ACCOUNT FOR IT AND INCLUDE IT ON THE REPORTING.

OKAY.

SO IF Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT THAT PROGRAM, WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS THAT AND I CAN GET WITH YOU AND, AND SHARE ALL THOSE DETAILS WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU A PRICE ON THAT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK, OKAY.

THANK, THANK YOU MS. PATTERSON.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND APPRECIATE YOU APPRECIATE THIS INFORMATION AND UM, IT OVER AND WELL AND I CAN GET WITH JACKIE.

JACKIE.

YEAH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

OH, THAT'S OKAY.

I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OF MINE AND YOU CAN, OKAY, GOOD.

AND THEN YOU JUST CAN EMAIL ME AND MAYBE WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IT IN MORE DETAIL.

APPRECIATE, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY, NEXT UP, UH, I WANT DISCUSS INSTEAD PURCHASING PRECINCT THREE MARKET PROGRAM.

YES, SIR.

UH, PRECINCT THREE, RETURN ONE OF THE GRADERS THAT WAS ON A BUYBACK AND THIS PARTICULAR I'M GOING BUY IS A, UH, JOHN DEERE.

THAT'S A LEVEL FROM RDO EQUIPMENT ON THE, UH, CONTRACT.

AND THE PRICE IS 1 94 8 50 PIL FOR JOHN DEERE.

WELL, LEMME EXPLAIN LONG STORY.

OKAY, WELL WE DON'T NEED TO GO LONG STORY.

AND WE ALSO, WE ALSO CURRENTLY ARE LEACHING THAT MACHINE AND, UH, THE PRICE PER MONTH RELEASE WOULD APPLY TO THAT LIST PRICE, UH, ON THAT MACHINE.

BUT THE SELLING PRICE IS 1 94, 8 50.

I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

JACKSON MAKE THAT MOTION.

YES.

JACKSON WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER DONOR WILL SECOND IT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

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YOU KNOW, THE, UH, JUST LITTLE SIDEBAR HERE.

THE, THE CATS ARE COMING OUT NOW.

WOBBLE STICKS.

HE'S GONNA HAVE TO HIRE SOME REAL YOUNG KIDS TO DRIVE US.

OLD GUYS ARE USED TO THE STEERING WHEEL AND WE CAN'T HANDLE THE NO STEERING WHEEL.

I WAS AFRAID.

CAN'T DO.

YEAH, THAT'S AN OLD GUY.

CAN'T DO THAT.

ENJOY.

COULDN'T.

SORRY, JACK.

NO PROBLEM.

THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'M GLAD Y'ALL TOLD ME THAT.

WONDER, UH, DISCUSSING IN CENTER CONTRACTING BROWNS RIVER TI COMPANY FOR THE PRESERVATION OF BOOKS FOR THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

WE DIDN'T TAKE A MOTION.

OH WE DIDN'T I TO MOTION.

WELL YOU MADE IT AND COMMISSIONER SECOND IT.

WE DIDN'T VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANKS FOR KEEPING ON MY TO THAT'S WHY THE LORD IS STANDING UP THERE.

OKAY, JUDGE THAT NEXT ITEM, UH, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE, WE CAME TO COURT AND WE SIGNED AN INTERRUPT AGREEMENT COUNTY.

AND WE'RE COMING BACK THIS MORNING.

IS LAURA READY TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK? AND IT'S OVER 15,000.

THE TOTAL IS 21,000 7, 27 70 5 CENTS.

THAT'S FOR PRESERVATION.

AND SHE ONLY HAVE 15 ON BUDGET FOR IT.

I'M GONNA DO A LITTLE STRONG.

OKAY.

THIS IS MARRIAGE RECORD ONE AND IT IS 161 YEARS OLD.

AND THIS BOOK, YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT UP.

I SIX ONE YEARS OLD, THAT'S TOUCH IT.

THIS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF STARTS THERE, BUT, UM, LITTLE STUFF THAT'S COOL.

BASICALLY THIS BOOK IS GOING AWAY 'CAUSE THE INK IN THERE IS EATING THROUGH THE PAGES.

AND I HAVE A, LIKE A LITTLE BLUE STICKER THERE WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE HOLES IN THE PAGE WHERE, WHERE IT IS.

UH, JUST EATING THROUGH THOSE PAGES.

AND IT'S MY JOB TO, YOU KNOW, PRE PRESERVE THOSE ORIGINAL COFFEE COUNTY RECORDS.

AND UH, WE HAVE A SPECIAL FUND SET ASIDE TO DO PRESERVATION OF RECORDS.

YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY TALK ABOUT JUST AS YOU GUYS DO MAINTENANCE ON YOUR EQUIPMENT AND YOUR VEHICLES, WE NEED TO DO THE MAINTENANCE ON THE BOOK.

THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY MAINTENANCE DONE ON THIS BOOK IN, UM, WHAT YEAR IS THIS? THAT ONE'S 1848.

1849.

SORRY.

I THINK 49.

NO, BUT MY GRANDPARENTS.

BUT THEY, THEY, THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN THERE.

BUT YOU KNOW, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT.

AND UNLIKE YOUR MAINTENANCE, ONCE WE DO IT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.

UM, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO WITH THE BOOK IS THEY'RE GONNA GO IN AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE, TAKE OFF ALL THE TAPE.

THEY'RE GONNA DE-ACIDIFY THE PAGES.

UM, AT THAT POINT THEY'LL SCAN 'EM AND MAKE DIGITAL IMAGES OF 'EM, WILL ENCAPSULATE THOSE PAGES SO THAT NO ONE ELSE WILL, WILL TOUCH THEM AND WE'LL PUT THEM IN A NEW MONITOR.

AND SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN REAL LUCKY THAT, UH, BRIAN RIVER MARIA IS, IS, THEY'RE STILL ON THE EAST COAST.

THEY DONE MOST PRESERVATION.

I THEY'VE DONE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

THEY'RE BUILDING A PLANT IN DALLAS.

SO WE, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO GET THAT DONE FROM A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY HERE IN DALLAS AND NOT HAVE TO SEND THE BOOKS OUT.

AND OF COURSE MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM YOUR RECORDS PRESERVATION OR SPECIAL.

SO WE'LL BE NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

YEAH, I JUST KEEP BUDGET.

WELL WE, WE, WE'VE SAVED THAT MONEY THE LAST FEW YEARS SO WE CAN BUY THAT SOFTWARE AND NOW THAT THE SOFTWARE'S IN PAID FOR, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH MORE OF THE BOOKS.

MR MAKES THE MOTION TO ALLOW COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECONDS IT BE MORE DISCUSSION OF IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION.

CARRIE, YOU DIDN'T TELL ME.

I SKIPPED THAT WHEN I WENT TO THEOR.

IT'S ANOTHER, I'M STILL LOOKING OUT ONE EYE.

Y'ALL REMEMBER I THOUGHT I WAS SEEING DOUBLE.

I THOUGHT THE SAME THING.

ALRIGHT, WELL NOW

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LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONSIDER LEASE PURCHASE OF A MOTOR FOR PRECINCT THREE TO THE BUYBOARD COOPERATIVE PROGRAM.

JUDGE, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT, UH, I GAVE THE COURT OF PAPERWORK ONLY A LETTER THAT I SENT TO A WHOLE CAT, UH, QUESTIONING TURN BACK A MACHINE.

UH, MR. JACKSON HAD A MACHINE OUT THERE THAT WAS HAVING STEERING FAILURES GOING DOWN THE ROAD, GETTING WHEEL THE CLUB AND GO ACROSS THE HIGHWAY AND IT BECAME VERY UNSAFE.

WE HAD A, UH, THREE YEAR LEASE, HAD ONE YEAR REMAINING AND, AND, UH, WORKING WITH TO TRY TO GET THE MACHINE BACK EARLY.

AND UH, THEY ACTUALLY SENT SOME PEOPLE DOWN FROM CATERPILLAR FACTORY TO TALK TO THE MACHINE.

SO, AND WHAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THAT MACHINE BACK, UH, AND THEY'RE OFFERING TO BRING OUT A NEW MACHINE.

UH, THE BALANCE ON THE MACHINE THAT WE HAD WAS 214,309.

THE, UH, BUYBACK GUARANTEE WAS FOR 195,000, WHICH IS A YEAR FROM NOW.

SO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT, BRING US OUT A RANDOM MACHINE AND UH, NORMALLY THAT MACHINE WOULD BE ABOUT 250,000.

THEY'RE GONNA SELL JUST FOR, FOR THE SAME PRICE OF THE BALANCE ON THE OLD MACHINE, WHICH IS 2 14 300.

BASICALLY WE'RE, WE'RE BUYING IT, WE'RE GOING TO LEASE A MACHINE AT 214,309 WITH A BUYBACK OF 195,000.

NO.

IS THIS GONNA HAVE JOYSTICK OR IS IT GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY.

NO, I GOT ONE YOUNG GUY THAT, WHICH REMINDS ME.

Y'ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE TEXAS A M AND UH, UH, TEXAS A M AT, UH, ARLINGTON Y THEY HAD THE PROGRAM ON EDUCATING YOUR DRIVERS MAINTAINERS THAT PROGRAMS OVER, THEY NEED ANY, THEY STILL HAVE, Y'ALL NEED SOME EDUCATION OPERATOR FOUR GUYS AFTER THE DID, DID YOU? OKAY, GOOD.

YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, MR. DI GIVING US, UH, COMMISSIONER LEASE ABOUT 12 A MONTH.

THINK 1225 A MONTH.

SO IT KIND BOUNCING DEERE.

YOU LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE NEW PRICE OF THE JOHN DEERE IS ABOUT 180 SOMETHING, 1 91.

SO, AND THE PRICE OF A NEW CAT'S ABOUT TWO 50 SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

THAT'S WHY I HAVE ALL JOHN DEERE.

I LOVE CAT.

YEAH, I HAVE ALL JOHN DEERE.

I THINK OURS ARE 90.

WE BOUGHT IN LAST YEAR.

HEY THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL MAKE THAT THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WILL SECOND IT.

ALL OPPOSED? AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

THANK JACKSON.

THANK YOU JACK.

UH, OKAY, NOW WE'LL DISCUSS THE DUMP TRUCK PRECINCT NUMBER TWO.

THAT I THINK THAT'S RAISED.

YEAH.

IS HE GOING AROUND YOU? YOU INVOLVED IN IT IF I, IF I OBJECT CORRECT.

I THINK IT'S WANTED TO HAVE THAT ON HERE IN CASE WE WERE TO FIND ONE, UH, AVAILABLE.

IT'S OVER THE 15,000.

WE DON'T HAVE ONE LOCATED AT THIS TIME.

IS THAT I WAS LOOKING, WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UH, A USED ONE FOR, TO PASS WITH AND THERE WAS ONE AT AUCTION, BUT IT WAS MORE THAN A $15,000 LIMIT COURT LIMIT.

SO WE BACK OFF OF IT EVEN THOUGH IT COULDN'T BE A GOOD DEAL.

ONE PUT ON THERE THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND MORE IF WE FIND, WE MAY FIND ONE FOR 12,000, MAY NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT, BUT IF WE FIND ONE FOR 17,000, YOU'D BE ABLE TO DO IT.

WE'D BE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AND IT'S 90 TIMES SOON WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLACE A VEHICLE AND IT VERY WELL POSSIBLY COULD BE ABLE FOR 15,000 AND COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER DE WILL SECOND IT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER CHANGES IN THE VACATION COMP TIME LIMIT CONTROL.

JUDGE.

I PUT THAT ON THERE AND, UH, I, I REALLY THINK I'VE ALREADY BY I THINK DISCUSSING THIS WITH DEBBIE, I THINK I FIGURED OUT WHAT I NEEDED TO DO.

I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, JIM KNOWS WHAT ALL THE PROBLEMS ARE WITH ROADS AND MY ROADS ARE AS BAD AS ANYBODY'S OR WORSE.

AND PLUS THERE'S TRASH AND LIMBS AND EVERYTHING ON EVERY ROAD ALSO.

AND I NEED TO HAVE MY GUYS OUT THERE ON THE SATURDAYS AND THEN ALL THAT DOES IS BUILD UP THEIR MORE VACATION AND COMP TIME.

WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

SO I WAS JUST GONNA COME IN HERE AND SEE WHAT WE MIGHT DO.

BUT NOW DEBBIE TELLS ME THAT THE VACATION THING IS HARD

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AND FAST.

NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR VACATION IF THEY GET OVER THAT LIMIT.

BUT THE COMP TIME, IF I UNDERSTAND DEBBIE, RIGHT, IF THAT GETS BUILT UP AND I CAN'T GIVE 'EM TIME OFF, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM WITH THE COMP TIME IS I CALL 'EM AT FOUR 30 IN THE MORNING AND IT'S RAINING, IT'S SLEETING AND, AND I SAY THERE'S TREES DOWN ON 1 47 OR 1 48 WHEREVER.

AND THEY GO OUT THERE AND THEY PICK UP THE LIMBS AND THE TREES AND THEY COME IN AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THEM TO TAKE THAT COP TIME, I DON'T NEED 'EM TAKING IT IN MARCH A I MEAN IN APRIL, MAY, JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST WHEN THIS'S GREAT VACATION TIME FOR 'EM.

'CAUSE THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE 'EM OUT THERE WORKING.

SO I WANT 'EM TO TAKE IT IN FEBRUARY WHEN IT'S LAYING IN IT'S SLEETING, IT'S SNOWING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT MUCH.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS AND WE STILL WORK THAT OUT.

BUT I'VE GOT TWO OR THREE GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS AND THEIR COMP TIME JUST GOES UP.

BUT ANYWAY, I, I POINTED THAT, I THINK DEBBIE TOLD ME THAT I CAN PAY THEIR COMP TIME OUT OF ROAD AND BRIDGE, BUT IT HAS TO COME OUTTA ROAD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO THEN.

ALRIGHT.

YOU REMEMBER DISCUSSION WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO REGARDING, UH, KYLE COULD HAVE A LIVER TRANSPLANT AND UH, UH, JOHNNY WAS, WAS NOT AVAILABLE THAT DAY AND WE HAD THE MANUAL, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON WHETHER OR NOT THE VACATION TIME ACCRUES AT ANNIVERSARY DATE OR AT THE BUDGET NEW BUDGET PERIOD.

YEAH.

AND BASED UPON WHAT WE READ THAT DAY, WE ALL LOOKED LIKE YOU DID IT ON THE BUDGET AND NOT THE ANNIVERSARY.

WELL, DEBBIE AND I WERE TALKING AND SHE SAYS NO, IT'S ON THE ANNIVERSARY DATE, BUT KYLE CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF BY PUTTING HIM IN THE MEDICAL POOL SURE.

AND DRAW HIS TIME FROM, FROM THE POOL.

BUT I THOUGHT SINCE JERRY THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DISCUSS IT.

AND JOHNNY YOU'RE HERE.

CAN YOU CLARIFY? DOES THE VACATION AC APPROVE? YES.

YEAR WRONG.

JUDGE.

IT, IT SHOULD HAVE CHANGED FOUR, FIVE YEARS.

WE CHANGED EVERYTHING THAT'S ON VACATION TAX THAT SAYS FISCAL, ISN'T IT? THAT'S THE ONE I BROUGHT THAT THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT EASTER.

I THOUGHT GEORGE SCHRADER, IT'S TIME FOR THE PUT THIS WHOLE THING AGAIN.

YEAH.

COUPLE YEARS HAVE GEORGE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND THAT'LL BE CORRECT.

OKAY, WELL SINCE THAT'S THE WAY IT IS IN THE MANUAL NOW WHAT, I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT AFTER THE FACT HERE.

CHANGE BEEN OPERATING LAST FOR SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO PROBLEM CHANGING FACT.

WELL IT'S JUST, UH, LIKE THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL HE ANNIVERSARY, SO THAT AFFECTS YEAH, HIS ANNIVERSARY DATE IS 31ST OF MARCH AND, AND SO HE USE A SICK FOOD.

SO THAT AFFECTS ANYWAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE HE CAN USE A SICK BOOT FOR BOOKS.

40 HOURS THAT HE'S MISSING.

IT DOESN'T SAY THE SICK.

HE HAS TO USE HIS VACATION AND SICK LEAVE BEFORE HE CAN GET INTO THE SICK.

YEAH, YEAH.

WELL THAT'S BUT THAT, THAT WAS THE POINT.

OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE SP BECAUSE HE'S NOT A MEMBER OF THE SIK POOL.

HE IS, BUT BECAUSE IT OH, HE IS NOW.

HE IS NOW HE HAS BEEN.

OKAY.

THEN HE CAN DO IT THEN HE CAN.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, HE, HE HADN'T TAKEN HIS VACATION.

HE DOESN'T TAKE ANY TIME OFF BECAUSE HE'S A WORKAHOLIC.

YEAH.

ANYWAY, SO, UH, HE'S JUST LOST HIS 80 HOURS OF WHAT IT IS VACATION AS OF THIS WEEK BECAUSE HE DIDN'T TAKE IT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, OKAY, WELL AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'M GONNA TRY TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE THOSE GUYS TAKE THEIR VACATIONS AND USE UP THAT COMP TIME.

BUT IF I GET IN AND FIND WHERE I NEED 'EM AND I HAVE TO HAVE THEM, THEN AS I UNDERSTAND THAT FROM TE I CAN PAY A COMP TIME OUT OF ROAD BRIDGE AFTER 240 HOURS OR ANY TIME AFTER THE 40 HOURS YOU HAD TO PAY OUT THERE.

PROBABLY BUDGET.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.

SO UNTIL I'D ALREADY PUT THIS ON, SO, OKAY.

WELL YOU GOT YOURS ANSWER.

YOU GOT MY ANSWER.

AND YOU GOT JIM.

ALRIGHT, LET'S DISCUSS, UH, WHETHER OR NOT TO REPLACE THE OVERHEAD BARRIER AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.

YEAH, I PUT THAT ON THERE TOO, JUDGE.

UH, SOMETIME IN THE PAST WE HAD A BIG PROBLEM WITH BIG TRUCKS COMING

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AND PARKING HERE ALL THE TIME.

SO WE PUT THOSE THINGS UP AND UH, MY PEOPLE HAVE REPLACED THEM ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES AT OUR EXPENSE OBVIOUSLY.

WELL, THE REASON IS BECAUSE THERE'S BIG TRUCKS TRYING TO GO IN THERE, BUT THESE ARE ALL TRUCKS KIND OF GO OUT THAT COME IN THE OTHER ENTRANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO OUT.

SO MY QUESTION IS, THERE'S ONE OR TWO DOWN RIGHT NOW AND UH, I'M JUST QUESTIONING THAT WHETHER WE NEED TO, TO, UH, FOLLOW THAT ALONG OR JUST FORGET ABOUT IT.

I THINK IF MY OPINION, I THINK IF YOU FORGET ABOUT IT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRAILER TRUCKS PARKED HERE ALL WEEKEND AT NIGHT.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOME DETERRENT THERE, WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THEY, FOR SOME REASON WHEN THEY GET IN AND THEY GO OUT, THEN THEY GO, OH MY GOD, WHAT HAPPENS? LET ME GET OUT OF HERE.

SO THEY'RE GONE, YOU KNOW, WELL MAYBE WE NEED TO LOWER THE OTHER ONE.

YEAH.

AND I THINK TXDOT TOOK ONE DOWN WHEN THEY WERE MOVING SOMETHING.

SO THERE'S TWO OR THREE DOWN NOW.

ONE BACK HERE WAS KNOCKED OFF, THIS ONE WAS KNOCKED OFF.

ONE GUY DIDN'T COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, I HIT THIS THING WHEN I WAS GOING DOWN THERE AND THEN AND DAMAGE TO THE AIR CONDITIONER I HAD IN THE BACK.

TOO BAD.

NO, WE DON'T.

BUT ANYWAY, IF WE NEED TO PUT 'EM BACK, WE'LL PUT 'EM BACK.

BUT I WAS JUST THINKING THAT, UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME DETERRENT THERE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE REPLACING THAT ASPHALT OUT THERE AND, AND THE CONCRETE PART AND REDOING THAT SURFACE, I WOULD THINK PUT ON CHANGE THOSE PARKING GARAGE.

SO IF THEY HIT THEM, IT'S NOT A MAJOR DISASTER.

REPLACE, WHAT DO THEY PUT DOWN? I I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT AFTER COURSE, BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL, TO LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT I, I JUST HATE SEE HAVE TO REDO THE PARKING LOT BEFORE WE REALLY HAVE PARKING.

UH, BECAUSE BELIEVE ME, I KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING DETERRENT, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAVE, THEY'LL BE PARKING THERE ALL WEEKEND AND AT NIGHT WHEN WE'RE NOT HERE.

OKAY.

UH, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S GET WITH RAY AND SEE WHAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL CAN, OKAY.

THERE'S SOME NEW, A BIG RUBBER BAND OR SOMETHING.

BACK OFF.

SHOOT BACK ONE SECOND.

YEAH, I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

WE'LL JUST TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT RIGHT NOW THEN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER REPAIRING A DRAINAGE PROBLEM ON TARRANT COUNTY WATER DISTRICT LAND.

I HAVE A, I HAD A MEETING WITH LONG STORY 48 19 IS, UH, GOES DOWN TO THE TARRANT COUNTY WATER BOARD PROPERTY AND THEY'VE GOT A GREAT BIG BERM THAT BACKS THE WATER UP ON 40 19 AND IT JUST DESTROYS OUR ROAD, BUT ALSO IT FLOODS THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSES SO BAD THAT IT COVERS UP THE SEPTIC SYSTEM.

I HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK WITH TARRANT COUNTY WATER BOARD AND I ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD GIVE ME A LETTER AUTHORIZING ME TO GO ON THEIR PROPERTY AND RELIEVE SOME OF THIS DRAINAGE PROBLEM, LIKE DIGGING A TRENCH ON THROUGH TO THE CREEK BECAUSE IT GOES DOWN, DOWN TO THE CREEK THERE TOWARDS GEORGIA'S PLACE.

UH, AND WE DO AWAY WITH THAT DRAINAGE PROBLEM, THE FLOODING PROBLEM.

AND, UH, SO I THOUGHT I WAS JUST, I HAVE A LETTER, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN AUTHORIZE IT OR, UH, WELL, IT'S A GOVERNMENT ENTITY SO WE COULD DO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

I WOULD THINK JOHN'S NOT THERE.

BUT, UH, I THINK AS LONG AS WE GOT AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND HOWEVER, THIS IS THE BENEFIT THE COUNTY NOT TO BENEFIT.

IT IS A BENEFIT THE COUNTY THAT THE, THE RESIDENTS ALONG 19 JUST GET FLOODED.

YEAH.

AND OUR ROAD JUST GETS TORE UP.

I MEAN, IT STANDS IN WATER EVERY TIME IT RAINS.

OF COURSE IT'S RAINED A LITTLE BIT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

UH, BUT IT, THIS IS FOR OUR BENEFIT.

YEAH.

LET'S, LET'S TALK TO JOHN ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE, UH, I KNOW THAT BEEN JERRY HAD A PROBLEM DOWN IN, IN HIS PRECINCT AND HE WANTED TO GET ON SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IT WAS A NO NOTE.

THIS IS TERM COUNTY WATER, RIGHT? YEAH.

RIGHT.

THIS WAS AN INDIVIDUAL, THIS WAS AN INDIVIDUAL.

HIS, BUT, UH, I CHECK WITH JOHN.

JOHN SAYS, OKAY.

I WOULD THINK THAT'D BE FINE, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND GOOD BECAUSE I SAY IT'S BENEFITING THE COUNTY.

YEAH.

IT, UH, SO I, I'D DO THIS, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND, AND VOTE ON IT, UH, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY JOHN, BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

AND J AND COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL SECOND THERE.

YEAH.

JOHN, SIR? UH, SITUATION, UH, YOU WANT BRIEFLY COME AGAIN? OKAY.

WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, UH, SEVERE DRAINAGE PROBLEM DOWN ON ONE OF OUR COUNTY ROADS, UHHUH, UH, AND IT, IT'S ALONGSIDE OF TARRANT COUNTY WATER BOARD PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE BIG BERMS THAT KEEP THE WATER FROM DRAINING OFF OF THE ROAD.

IT

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FLOODS ALL THE PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES, COVERS UP THE SEPTIC TANKS.

UH, AND I MET WITH TARRANT COUNTY WATER BOARD HERE A WEEK AGO AND I SAID, YOU GIVE ME AUTHORIZATION TO GET ON THAT PROPERTY AND ALLOW ME TO DIG THE DRAINAGE, IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE DOWN THROUGH THERE SO THAT THE WATER DRAINS OFF OUR COUNTY ROAD.

AND, UH, WELL YOU, YOU GOT A COPY OF IT, OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, SO THAT'S A LETTER FROM TARRANT COUNTY WATER BOARD AUTHORIZING ME TO GET ON IT.

UH, THE JUDGE SUGGESTED MAYBE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH TARRANT COUNTY WATER BOARD.

WOULD THAT BE, IT'S A ONE TIME DEAL.

UH, WOULD THAT BE NECESSARY OR WITH THE BOARD WON'T BE PAYING FOR IT CAN BE PAID FOR IT.

NO, IT'S ALL OUR EXPENSES.

IT'S FOR, THAT'S WHY I KIND OF THOUGHT I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, IT, UH, WHO'S PAYING FOR IT? WE ARE.

OH, IT'S, IT IS DESTROYING OUR ROADS AND, AND DESTROYING SOME OF THE COUNTY PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

THE WATER FLOODS UP OVER THE TOP OF THEIR SEPTIC TANK.

IT'S ALL DESTROYING MY ROADS.

JUST GIVE ME THE DIRECTION YOU WANT ME TO GO ANYWAY, WE WERE GOING THROUGH, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

I THINK EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONE DEAL, THIS MAY HAPPEN AGAIN IF WE DON'T , IF WE DON'T DIG THAT, THAT DRAINAGE THAT'S DONE THROUGH THERE, IT WILL HAPPEN WITHOUT RAIN.

IF YOU WANT TIME.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PASS THE ORDER.

OKAY.

UH, ALLOWING IT SUBJECT TO YOUR OPINION WITH JIM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND GENTLEMEN, MAKE THAT MOTION JC EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER JACKSON'S ALREADY, UH, SECONDED.

MORE DISCUSSION.

I GUESS DON'T READ THIS IS LOUD BECAUSE IT'S, UH, ANOTHER GOVERNMENT CLEAR OFF THE WALL, NOT COME FIX DOING THAT ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S THING.

WELL, MOST OF THEM BE FOR TARRANT COUNTY WATER DISTRICT.

SO, UH, BUT WE STILL NEED TO, NEED TO DO IT.

HOW ABOUT THE FRESHWATER DISTRICT? NOW , YOU WANT HEAR THAT LITTLE DIFFERENCE THERE? YEAH.

JOHN, THE QUESTION, QUESTION COMMISSIONER JACKSON, IS IT STILL LEADING IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT? I, I THINK SO.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

RELIABILITY TOO.

BENEFIT.

I'M SURE THEY'LL SIGN IT.

OH, I'M SURE THEY'LL, I MET WITH 'EM.

THEY JUST, WE WERE REALLY, I WHAT, UH, LAURA ON THAT, UH, THAT MOTION.

TARRANT COUNTY WATER DISTRICT, UH, COMMON AND GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.

AND THAT WAY ANYBODY WILL KNOW IT'S NOT JUST ANY ANYBODY'S TARRANT REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT CAN GO.

SURE IS.

THAT'S SOMETHING JOHN QUESTION IS, IS THE TARRANT COUNTY, UH, REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY? AND I THINK IT'S, I, I I DON'T KNOW.

IT DOESN'T HAVE COUNTY IN THE TITLE OF HIS TART REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT.

YEAH.

UM, WELL, YOU OR NOT, WE'LL BURP IT BACK.

I MADE BECAUSE THEY ISSUED, THEY INCORPORATED, THEY, THEY FORMED IT.

THEY ISSUED BONDS TO BUILD CEDAR CREEK AND, UH, SO THEY HAD TO BE, BUT OKAY.

THAT'S A GOOD RESEARCH PROJECT.

JOHN DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING.

THANK YOU.

BOARD.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OKAY.

EVERYTHING'S SUBJECT TO YOU, JOHN.

UH, PRECINCT TWO NEEDS, UH, TWO EMPLOYEES HAVE WORK ON THE ROADS.

YES, SIR.

SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BELLA.

ALL I MOTION CARRIES, UH, DISCUSS, UH, KEVIN HOPKINS FOR RESERVE CONSTABLE AND PRECINCT FOUR.

YES.

THIS IS JUST A TRANSFER AND I, I ASKED THE CONSTABLE TO PUT IT ON.

IT'S JUST A TRANSFER.

HE'S BEEN VETTED AND EVERYTHING IN PRECINCT THREE.

HE'S JUST GONNA MOVE TO PRECINCT FOUR.

JUST GONNA BE A RESERVE PRECINCT FOUR PRECINCT.

OKAY.

SO I MAKE THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? THANK YOU.

SECONDED

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BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, DISCUSSING NOVEMBER WEEK OF APRIL 5TH THROUGH APRIL 11TH AS NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK IN HAWKIN COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, WE, UH, CASSIE'S IN CHARGE OF OUR HEALTHY COUNTY PROGRAM HERE IN THE COUNTY.

AND SO WE NEED TO DECLARE THAT WEEK AS PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK IN KAMAN COUNTY.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES IT AND OUR COMMISSIONER, ROUND SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES IN OUR BOARD MEETING LAST, UH, WEDNESDAY.

UH, THE NUMBER OF COUNTIES NOW THAT ARE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING JUST KEEPS GROWING.

UH, FOR INSTANCE, HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, WE HAD 35 LAST YEAR.

SIGN UP THAN 30.

LAST TIME WE'VE GOT OVER A HUNDRED.

SO, UM, THE IDEA IS IT'S ALL, IT'S MOVING ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IS EVERYBODY GET HEALTHY.

THE HEALTHIER YOU ARE, THE LESS THE INSURANCE IS GONNA COST US TO PAY FOR THE MEDICAL BILLS.

SO EVERYBODY GET HEALTHY.

QUIT SMOKING AND LOSE WEIGHT.

I QUIT SMOKING, BUT LOSING WEEDS HARD TO DO.

I SIGNED THAT TRIP.

I QUIT SMOKING TOO.

YEAH, .

THINK HOW MUCH IF YOU QUIT SMOKING.

IF YOU QUIT SMOKING, THINK HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'LL SAVE.

WELL, YEAH, WELL I QUIT SMOKING 40 YEARS AGO, SO, YEAH.

AND YOU ARE RICH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S JUST LIKE ONE GUY TOLD MY DADDY WHEN HE WORKED AT THE FORD PLANT, HE SAID, GOSH.

HE SAID, UH, MR. JAN SAID IF YOU DIDN'T SMOKE, JUST SAY, WELL, YOU COULD PROBABLY BE DRIVING A CADILLAC BY NOW.

DADDY ASKED HIM, WHERE'S YOURS, ? ANYWAY, OKAY, THAT BRINGS US AROUND TO CHILD PREVENTION, CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION AWARENESS.

MONTH OF APRIL.

ALSO, SOMEBODY MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL MAKE IT.

COMMISSIONER WILL SECOND IT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, NOW WE WANT TO, CENTURY LINK WANTS TO LAY SOME BURIED CABLE ON COUNTY ROAD 40 64.

WE'LL GET THEM TELEGRAPH LINES DOWN THERE.

ONE DAYS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY MOTION, GARY.

OKAY, BEFORE WE GET TO, WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE, UH, MICHAEL CLAWSON, WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THAT COUNTY ROAD 1 4 7 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 0 7, SIR, AND 1 0 7 AWESOME.

AND 1 0 7.

YES.

GREENS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M MIKE CAA, 8 6 0 3 COUNTY ROAD 1 4 7 PRECINCT, ONE JERRY'S DISTRICT.

I WAS HERE THREE WEEKS AGO.

TALKED TO JERRY ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD.

THE PAST THREE WEEKS.

UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE HAD ONE DAY OF REPAIRS.

THEY CAME OUT WITH GRAVEL ON IT, GRADED IT.

THEY STARTED THE PROJECT.

WE DEFINITELY NEED THEM TO COME BACK.

I ALSO AM A SCHOOL BUS DRIVER HERE AT KISD.

UH, LAST WEEK, BUS 14 GOT STUCK IN THE OR BUS 50 GOT STUCK IN THE ROAD.

THURSDAY THE TRASH HAULER GOT STUCK IN THE ROAD.

IT NEEDS SERIOUS ATTENTION.

AND ALSO OUR, OUR DRIVER OF BUS 14 DRIVES 1 0 7 AND THEY WERE OUT TWO DAYS WITH SOME EQUIPMENT AND REPAIRED IT.

WHAT THEY REPAIRED IS FANTASTIC.

THE PROBLEM IS THEY TORE UP THE REST OF THE ROAD AND THAT'S ALMOST TO THE POINT OF WE'RE GONNA NOT DRIVE THAT ROAD.

1 0 7 A IS ON THE LIST OF NO, NOT BEING ABLE TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD WITH THAT BUS BECAUSE THE BUS TIPPED AND KNOCKS THE STUDENTS OUT OF THEIR SEATS AND IT'S JUST A SAFETY CONCERN.

SO THAT GETS REPLACED.

I JUST WANNA GO ON RECORD OF GETTING THIS TAKEN CARE OF.

SURE.

UH, TOP OF THE LIST AND ALSO IF WE COULD SEE, OR IF YOU COULD THINK ABOUT GETTING SOME SORT OF A SHORT RANGE PLAN OF MAINTENANCE SO ALL THESE ROADS WON'T BACK UP AND HAVE ALL THESE PROBLEMS ALL AT ONCE.

PILE UP.

CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, WILL THEY HAVE US DO THAT? WILL THEY HAVE SOME MONEY THAT WILL HELP US FIX THOSE JOBS? WE'RE HOPEFULLY GONNA BE GETTING RAISES FOR BUS DRIVERS.

.

I, I DON'T THINK SO, BUT WHENEVER THAT'S CONCERN, SAFETY CONCERN, THEN OUR DIRECTOR GOES OUT, CHECKS THE ROADS AND MAKES THAT DECISION BECAUSE THAT HAS TO BE A DAY BY DAY DECISION TO BE MADE.

WELL I THINK WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT 1 31 AND 1 31 A AND YES, WE WENT OUT THERE AND GRADED ALL OF THOSE.

UH, EVERY ONE, BOTH OF THOSE.

UH, 1 47, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UH, WE PUT SOME ROCK ON IT.

IT WAS A HARD TOP ROAD, BUT THE IT, THE RAIN HAS JUST TURNED IT INTO AND WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT PLASTIC

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SINCE FALL.

THE NEIGHBORS AND SUCH, THEY CAUGHT THIS FALL.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY CAME OUT ONE DAY.

GOOD START.

THEY JUST NEED TO KEEP COMING BACK AND STAYING ON IT.

DAY WE WENT UP THERE, IT WAS SO WET.

OUR, OUR OWN GRATER GOT GOT IT DID POPPED DOWN, GRATER GOT STUCK.

THERE WASN'T MUCH WE COULD DO ABOUT IT.

SO, SO I JUST WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

SURE.

JUST ON RECORD OF GETTING THIS, UH, SITUATION RESOLVED.

YOU MIGHT, UH, TELL THE, SINCE YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF THE BUS DRIVERS OR WELL, I'M ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE MOST, OKAY.

YOU MIGHT ADVISE THEM THAT UNTIL, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LITTLE EXCESSIVE RAIN THIS YEAR AND UNTIL THE ROADS ARE FIXED ARE ABLE TO BE FIXED, YOU MIGHT ADVISE THEM TO SLOW DOWN.

WELL WHEN MOST OF THE DAMAGE THAT CAUSED BY, BY BUSES AND OR TWO BUSES AND AUTOMOBILE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING.

THEY DON'T, THE HOLES ARE THERE AND NOTHING CAN BE DONE BY IT UNTIL TIME PERMITS.

SO THAT'S TRUE.

BUT YOU TRY GOING DOWN ON PINE ROAD 1 47 IN A YEAR, NOT GONNA GET OVER 25 MILE AN HOUR.

2025.

THAT'S BECAUSE I GO 10 MILES.

10.

YOU GOT A GOOD ROAD IF YOU DRIVE 25, YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR PRECINCT COMMISSIONER ABOUT THAT ALL.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

BYE.

ALRIGHT.

YOU BET.

GOOD EVENING ROBERT.

WHEN YOU GO HOME, DRIVE DOWN 1 42.

MICHAEL.

WHAT'S THAT? WILL YOU GO HOME THIS AFTERNOON? DRIVE DOWN 1 42.

OKAY.

I FIND THAT AND YEAH, , I'LL SEE WHAT BUS NUMBER ON THAT.

WE'LL BE BACK NEXT TO NEXT.

I'M NOT COMPLAINING.

.

NO, IT'S BAD OUT THERE.

EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S BAD.

THEY'RE ALL BAD.

SO NO.

COME WITH THAT NOW.

YES SIR.

DO WE HAVE ANY LINE ITEMS THIS MORNING? YES SIR, WE DO.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY TIME WISE IT'S AFTERNOON.

YES SIR.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GEORGE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, THAT WE PROBABLY WON'T DO SOME COMPUTER THINGS WE WANTED TO DO THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GSA SITUATION TRYING TO GET OFF WITH THE SHERIFFS NEW DISPATCH SYSTEM.

WE NEED TO ALLOW HOW THE TRANSFER TO INCREASE THE GSA COST 9,150, UH, APPEARS THERE'S ROOM TO TAKE THAT OUT OF HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS AT THIS POINT.

PROBATE CY, WE HAVE COUNTY CLERK FEES, WHICH ARE PAID FROM FUNDS RECEIVED PRIMARILY IN PROBATE, ANCY, OR FROM IN ATTORNEYS.

BUT THE, YOU HAVE TO PAY CLERK FEES FOR THAT.

WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT 5,000 REDUCTION DEFENSES COSTS, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT COMES FROM ROAD AND THEN ROAD BRIDGE.

FOUR.

WE NEED INCREASE UTILITIES, 1000 REDUCTION IN ROAD MATERIALS.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND SHERIFF'S TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE PROJECT, WHICH A SEPARATE FUND, UH, HAS RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE FOR $23,032.

AGREED.

BUDGETING THAT FOR NEW EQUIPMENT, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.

ALL THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE NO MOVE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIED.

HAVE ANY BILL? YES SIR.

THREE BAGS.

I HAVE A YOUNG MAN IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM THERE, MR. SCOTT HUTCHINS.

Y'ALL REMEMBER MR. SCOTT HUTCHINS? NO.

HI SCOTT.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT CITY.

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I PAID THE CITY THE WATER AND THEY WAITED UNTIL OCTOBER THE 12TH.

WATER.

HEY JIM, WE PICKED UP THAT BOX AND UH, YES, HE THINKS HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET IT ALL GOING FOR 1800.

OH YEAH.

OH YEAH.

I THINK 2000 I THINK.

THANK YOU.

I UH, YOU GOT THE PUMP AND EVERYTHING DIDN'T YOU? I HAD, I GAVE HIM A PUMP TOO.

YEAH, THAT'D GREAT.

YEAH, THAT GREAT.

NO, THAT'S GREAT.

2 71 I THINK.

2 71 AT MINE.

34 1.

UH, THERE'S 2 71 THAT RUNS OFF OF 9 87.

2 7 2 7 2 INGRAM.

I DIDN'T, THERE WAS TWO SO I ONE OF THOSE SO BAD I CAN'T.

YEAH, THAT'S, WE NEVER GET ANY GRANT, THE SHERIFF, ALL THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I DON'T GET, YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO NEXT BUDGET.

ASK SANTA CLAUS.

WHAT'S THAT? ASK SANTA CLAUSE .

WELL, WE CAN TAKE, TAKE ABOUT, UH, 15 20 CENTS OUTTA GENERAL FUND AND PUT ASPHALT FIVE, SIX MILES A YEAR.

BUY SOMETHING.

WE BUY SOMETHING.

UH, OR SOLD.

HOPEFULLY.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU BOUGHT SOMETHING.

WOULDN'T HAPPEN TO EXPECT TO SELL IT, WOULD YOU? I SEE THAT WE DON'T GO TO JACK.

GO TO LAS VEGAS CONVENTION.

CONVENTION.

THANK YOU FOR THE THANK YOU FOR THE THIS ONE.

YOU SEE WHEN YOU GET ALL THESE MENTS IN THE MAIL, THEY'RE ALL, WELL IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO PROBABLY.

YEAH, REBOOTED DID REBOOTED.

YEAH.

I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I SOMETHING TO, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE MY TOUCH SHOULD

[02:40:07]

HOLD ON WITH THAT WHOLE THING.

I NEED TO LIST NUMBERS.

SHE, UH, SHE HAD TO DO IF SHE, I NEED SOME YOU TO GET RID OF THEM.

IT DOESN'T WORK.

GONNA CALL AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE ON THIS.

DO YOU GET BACK, COME BACK TWO O'CLOCK OVER TO SOUTH CAMPUS? YEAH.

GET A WALL BACK.

I HOPE YOU DID.

DON'T WORRY.

IF I FIND ONE I'LL GO TO YOU.

YEAH, I'M SURE.

NO, ACTUALLY, UH, WENDY WAS DIRECTOR OF HIGHWAY TALKING TO US AND UH, THEN IT PROGRESSED AND WE HAD, SO, MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S

[02:45:02]

MY BROTHER, MY SON, WHEN YOU GET THE TRIM, YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR.

DISTRICT SCHOOL DISTRICT PROBABLY SAY, UH, WE SAY, YEAH, I, HEY DOUG.

I FIGURED CALLED THE GUY AND ASKED THAT GUY IS FROM LOUISIANA.

THEY TALKED, HE TALKED LIKE HE'S FROM WHAT? FIXED A BUNCH OF STUFF.

I GOT BROTHERS GOING ONE PLACE HERE, WE

[02:50:09]

THOUSAND.

YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU PUT A SIGN NOW TECHNICALLY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MOVE.

IT WOULD A PROBLEM IF ANYBODY COMES IN AND DON'T ACTUALLY GET BECAUSE OF MEETING.

YEAH.

I THINK I FIGURED OUT WHAT I CAN DO.

SO WE'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE TIMES IN YEARS.

ONLY 40 HOURS OR WHATEVER DID WE GO.

YOU WENT MILLER FROM THE GUYS OVER THERE.

THAT'S WHERE JC GOT ON.

WATCH ALREADY.

DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

BACK DRIVE OFF.

WHAT'RE DOING? HE SAID COME GET IT.

I, OH YEAH.

CLOSEST ONE'S.

THE CLOSEST PLACE GO TO UH, BECAUSE OPEN.

OKAY.

GENE, UH, ASKED ABOUT GENE.

OH HI GENE.

HE'S DOING GREAT.

HE'S UH, HE'S THE HEAD.

THAT'S COOL.

HE WANTED THAT BEFORE.

DID THAT GIRL QUIT? SHE RETIRED, BUT WHEN SHE TOOK IT AFTER SAM DIED AND SHE TOOK IT, SHE TOLD HIM THAT SHE WAS BE THERE ABOUT YEARS AND BROUGHT IN.

I GOT SOME HOURS.

I I SAY I TO PLAY GOLF.

GOLF LAST TIME ON ARMY BASE.

HE SAID THEY'RE NICE BOX LOCKED UNTIL THREE O'CLOCK OR SO.

SHOULD, SHOULD YOU GOT ONE OF THESE JUDGE YOU GOT ONE OF THESE.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, AH, YOU CAN GET IN TODAY.

THAT FEEL LIKE TERRY.

TERRY AND GENE SAID THAT UH, HE TALKED TO DANNY AND DANNY WANTED ME AND YOU AND COME THROUGH AUSTIN, PICK UP AND GO TO NEW BRONX DOWN THERE.

YEAH.

WE COULD PROBABLY PLAY FAST.

YEAH, WE COULD.

DANNY CAN HIT IT.

HE'S A JUDGE OUT OF, YOU KNOW, COME ON.

I TOLD HIM, I SAID, WELL JERRY CAN'T WALK .

I TOLD JERRY SAID, I SAID, WE MAY PUT A SIDE BED ON THE GOLF BUT WE'RE GONNA WALK BE LONG WAGON BEAT.

I'VE BEAT 18 BY A LONG WAY.

COME GET SOME OR SOMETHING.

YOU'RE STILL WHIP ABOUT IT.

YEAH, I NOT TO DO THAT.

I CAN'T DO IT.

I JUST FIGURED, YOU KNOW,

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MAKES THE MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS.

AND COMMISSIONER JACKSON, I SECOND IT.

AND ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

ANYTHING WE NEED TO BRING UP BEFORE WE LEAVE? GOOD.

WE'LL SEE Y'ALL NEXT MONDAY.

TWO O'CLOCK PREBI FOR THE PRE.

OH, OKAY.

Y'ALL BE OUT.

THERE'S GOT ME BOOKED UP WITH PROBATE ALL AFTERNOON.

OH, OKAY.

SO I WON'T BE OUT THERE.

I NEED TO ASK YOU ANYTHING I NEED TO ASK YOU NOW.

YEAH, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO ASK ME THAT .

ALRIGHT, WELL THEN TAKE MOTION.

ADJOURN MADE BY MR. SECOND BY MR. JACKSON.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A MOTION CARRIED.

YEAH, IF YOU COULD SEE IF YOU COULD DRIVE BY, TRY TO THE HOUSE.

SO ARE YOU LOOKING OKAY? YEAH, THERE'S FOUR OF THEM.

YEAH.

OH.