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IANS SEVEN FATHER, WE THINK THEY PUT THE PRIVILEGE AND OPPORTUNITY OF GATHERING TOGETHER TODAY TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY.

PLEASE LOOK DOWN UPON US WITH FAVOR AND GIVE US KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION TO MAKE, UH, CORRECT AND EQUITABLE.

EQUITABLE DECISION.

DECISION.

UH, AS USUAL, WE THINK THI FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT WAS GIVEN US THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UH, WE THINK THI FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL WEATHER, THANK THI FOR THE RAIN THAT WE HAD OVER THE WEEKEND.

UH, BE WITH ALL THE PEOPLE ALONG THE COAST AS THEY FACE THIS, UH, ONGOING DISASTER.

ALL THIS WE ASK JESUS NAME, I YOU ONE OR NOT FROM THE MARSHAL.

OKAY, I AM GONNA READ THIS UNDER ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE WE HAVE.

THIS IS FROM, UH, UH, JOSH PHILLIPS.

JOSH USED TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND NOW WORKS FOR, UH, THIS IS STILL WITH THE , BUT THIS DEALS WITH HIS JOB WITH THE COLLEGE MOUNTAIN FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, SAYS ON TUESDAY, UH, THIS IS TO THE COMMISSIONER COURT.

ON TUESDAY, JULY 6TH, 2010, THE COLLEGE MOUNTAIN FIRE DEPARTMENT ED THE CALL FOR A RESIDENTIAL FIRE IN AREA OF COUNTY OF COUNTY ROAD 1 22 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 22 B.

THE RESIDENCE WAS ABANDONED AND WAS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ANOTHER ABANDONED RESIDENCY THAT HAD BURNED WEEKS EARLIER.

BOTH FIRES WERE OBVIOUSLY THE WORK OF ARSONISTS.

I COMMEND THE ENTIRE STAFF AT THE FARM MARSHAL'S OFFICE FOR A JOB WELL DONE IN BRINGING THIS TO A, TO AN END IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS FROM THE FIRE ON JULY THE SIXTH, THE SUSPECT WAS IN CUSTODY.

THANKS TO ALL THE HARD WORK PUT IN BY THE FARM MARSHAL'S OFFICE, THE QUICK RESPONSE AND APPREHENSION OF THE SUSPECT SURELY SAVED OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA AND LIVES AND PUT THE COMMUNITY'S SPHERES TO REST.

THANKS AGAIN FOR JOB.

WELL DONE RESPECTFULLY.

JOSHUA SMITH, FIRE CHIEF COLLEGE MOUNT FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SPEAKING OF, UH, FIRE MARSHALL.

UH, GREAT JOB FOR THAT.

THOSE, THOSE TWO ARE AT MY PRECINCT.

SO DID YOU KNOW THE ARSONS? UH, NO.

I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING.

UH, Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN INVITED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? IF THERE ARE NONE, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.

MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

LOOK AT THAT.

GOING TO, UH, TAKE AN ITEM WHERE THE JUDGE CAN GET BACK TO, UH, DOING HIS OTHER JOB.

UM, JUDGE MIKE CHITTY, UH, TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A ESTABLISHMENT OF A MENTAL HEALTH DRUG COURT.

AND 22ND, 422ND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF KAMAN COUNTY, TEXAS.

JUDGE, JUDGE, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ENTERTAINING THIS MATTER THIS MORNING.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

AS YOUR APPOINTEE TO THAT BOARD, THE THREE YEARS IMMEDIATELY PASSED.

I'VE SERVED AS CHAIRMAN OF THAT BODY, AND NOT ONLY HAVE I BECOME AWARE

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IN MY WORK ON THE BENCH HERE IN KAUFMAN, BUT THROUGH THE WORK ON THE NIPA BOARD OF THE NEED FOR THE KIND OF COURT THAT I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU AUTHORIZE TODAY.

AND THAT'S A TWO, REALLY TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF COURTS.

ONE, A MENTAL HEALTH COURT, ONE, A DRUG COURT, BOTH AUTHORIZED UNDER THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE OF THE STATE.

AND, UH, MY CONCEPT IS TO RUN A FRIDAY AFTERNOON DOCKET EACH FRIDAY, UH, WITH PEOPLE ON THE DOCKET WHO HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED, PROBABLY WITH A DUAL DIAGNOSIS OF CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY AND MENTAL ILLNESS.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE REPEATING OFFENDERS WHO COME THROUGH OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM LIKE A REVOLVING DOOR.

UH, THEY'LL GET PICKED UP, THEY'LL GET INCARCERATED, UH, IN THE JAIL.

THEY'LL BE PUT ON MEDICATIONS AND STABILIZED.

THEY'LL BE RELEASED, THE PHONE RELEASED.

THEY DON'T CONTINUE THE MEDICATIONS OR THE TREATMENT.

THEY CYCLE RIGHT BACK THROUGH THE SYSTEM AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO, UH, WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO HAVE IDENTIFIED, PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DIAGNOSIS OF MENTAL ILLNESS CAN BE REFERRED INTO THE COURT PROGRAM.

WE CAN ESTABLISH A TREATMENT PROGRAM, FOLLOW THOSE PEOPLE FOR PROBABLY A SIX TO 18 MONTH PERIOD.

UH, BE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THEIR TREATMENT PROGRAM, COMPLYING WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THEIR PROBATION, TRY TO GET 'EM JOBS AND TRY TO GET 'EM HOUSING SO THAT THEY CAN REENTER SOCIETY AND BECOME PRODUCTIVE AGAIN.

SO THAT IS THE CONCEPT.

IT IS ONE THAT, UH, OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ADOPTED AND IT'S PROVEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

DALLAS COUNTY HAS ONE.

BOWIE COUNTY HAS ONE.

MOST OF THE MAJOR METROPOLITAN COUNTIES HAVE THESE PROGRAMS. UH, SOME SMALLER COUNTIES.

I THINK WE MAY BE ABOUT THE SMALLEST ONE THAT WOULD HAVE SUCH A PROGRAM, BUT THEY'RE VERY EFFECTIVE.

THE RECIDIVISM RATE, UH, DROPS DRAMATICALLY.

UH, TALKED TO JUDGE MILLER IN TEXA COUNTY RECENTLY.

HE BELIEVES HIS RECIDIVISM RATE IN BOWIE COUNTY IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 15 TO 20% RATE, WHEREAS NORMALLY IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE 75 TO 80% RATE.

SO THEY'RE VERY EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS. THEY'RE VERY INTENSIVE SUPERVISION KIND OF PROGRAMS. AND, UH, UH, BASED UPON THE SUCCESS IN OTHER COUNTIES, I THINK IT'LL BE A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM HERE IN CALIN COUNTY AS WELL.

THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THE DRUG COURT.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS, UH, DIAGNOSIS, BUT ARE CHEMICALLY DEPENDENT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THE SAME RATIONALE APPLIES.

YOU GET 'EM INTO A TREATMENT PROGRAM, YOU MONITOR THEM INTENSELY AND, UH, BE SURE THEY'RE SUCCEEDING IN THEIR TREATMENT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THE CONCEPT IS TO GET 'EM, UH, OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND BACK INTO SOCIETY AS PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS.

SO THAT'S THE CONCEPT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

FIRST ONE, UH, COST TO THE COUNTY, UH, FOR THE INDIGENT.

AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED ALREADY THROUGH THE, THE, UH, HELP OF THE SHERIFF AND, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED ABOUT 15 TO 20 PEOPLE WHO CAN PRESENTLY ENROLL IN THIS PROGRAM.

UH, MOST OF THOSE ARE INDIGENT.

MOST OF THE MENTALLY ILL IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ARE NOT EMPLOYED.

THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYABLE AS LONG AS THEY'RE MENTALLY ILL.

UH, ONCE WE GET 'EM STABILIZED, TREATED, WE THINK THEY CAN REENTER THE EMPLOYMENT MARKET.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, THE ASSESSMENT AND EVALUATION PORTION OF THIS WILL BE PAID THROUGH THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT.

NO COST, NO NEW COST TO THE COUNTY.

UH, THE ACTUAL TREATMENT WE BELIEVE WILL BE PROVIDED THROUGH VALUE OPTIONS, WHICH IS THE INSURANCE COMPANY CONTRACTED WITH MIBA TO PROVIDE MENTAL ILLNESS AND CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY SERVICES TO THE INDIGENT.

AND THEN THE MENTAL HEALTH LIAISON PORTION OF IT, WHERE THE MHMR REPRESENTATIVE CASE MANAGER WILL COME TO THE COURT WEEKLY IS GOING TO BE PAID THROUGH THE GENEROSITY OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, UH, THAT HE HAS.

SO, UH, AT LEAST THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, THERE SHOULD BE NO COST AT ALL, UH, TO THE COUNTY.

UH, WE'VE SPENT A NUMBER OF WEEKS, FRANKLY, MEETING WITH THE SHERIFF, THE DA, PUBLIC DEFENDER, MENTAL HEALTH, MENTAL RETARDATION OFFICIALS, TRYING TO PUT THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN OPERATE IT WITHOUT TAPPING ANY ADDITIONAL SOURCES FROM THE COUNTY.

WELL, THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY GOING THROUGH THE SYSTEM ANYWAY.

THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING THE, UH, THE, UH, SPECIFIC ATTENTION THAT THEY WILL UNDER, UNDER THIS NEW PROGRAM.

THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

THEY'RE NOT GOING THROUGH THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM NECESSARILY.

AND WHAT

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WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET 'EM INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM SO THEY CAN GET THE TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED, OR THE CHEMICAL DEPEND, UH, MENTAL HEALTH OR CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY TREATMENT THAT THEY NEED, OR BOTH IN MANY CASES.

AND ANY FEES, THE VALUE OPTION WILL BE PAID FOR THROUGH PROBATION FEES.

WELL, IF THEY'RE INDIGENT JUDGE, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING.

UH, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE PROVISIONS PROVIDE FOR AN ASSESSMENT OF UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, IN THE DRUG COURT IF THE INDIVIDUAL IS ABLE TO PAY THOSE FEES.

BUT IT'S ON A PAY AS YOU ARE ABLE TO BASIS.

AND SO IF THEY'RE TRULY INDIGENT AND UNEMPLOYED, THEN THOSE SERVICES SHOULD BE PROVIDED WITHOUT COST.

UH, WHAT, SO VALUE OPTIONS IS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE WITHOUT COST? WELL, THEY'RE GETTING PAID THROUGH STATE FUNDS.

OKAY.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET A BILL FROM VALUE OPTIONS SAYING, WE'VE DONE THIS FOR CONFERENCE COUNTY.

NOW, I THINK THOSE ARE STATE FUNDS THAT, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES WOULD BE USING THROUGH VALUE OPTIONS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR REGULAR MENTAL ILLNESS DOCKET THAT JUDGE LEWIS DOES.

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

UH, THOSE, THAT MENTAL ILLNESS DOCKET IS A CIVIL DOCKET.

THIS MENTAL ILLNESS DOCKET IS A CRIMINAL, UH, MENTAL HEALTH DOCKET.

IT'S A DIVERSION COURT.

BOTH OF THESE ARE DIVERSION COURTS.

YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE PENITENTIARY AND THE JAILS OUT OF THE PENITENTIARIES AND THE JAILS.

UH, THE CANDIDATES FOR THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE NON PREDATORY, NONVIOLENT, MENTALLY ILL, UH, AND INDEPENDENT PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALLY CONSTITUTE A THREAT TO SOCIETY AS LONG AS THEY'RE TREAT BEING TREATED AND STAYING ON THEIR MEDICATIONS.

NO, THIS IS ONE OF YOUR PET PROJECTS.

YOU'VE EVEN BEEN TO AUSTIN SEVERAL TIMES TESTIFYING FOR THESE PEOPLE FOR THIS AREA.

RIGHT.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED IN THE PAST TRYING TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE STATE PROGRAM PUT TOGETHER THAT WOULD DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES ON A COMPREHENSIVE BASIS.

AND, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, EVERYONE'S IN A BUDGET CRUNCH.

UH, RIGHT NOW, THE STATE IS IN A PRETTY SERIOUS BUDGET CRUNCH.

WE ARE HOPING JUST TO HOLD OUR GROUND ON, UH, FUNDING FOR THE MENTALLY ILL AND CHEMICALLY DEPENDENT WITHOUT SUFFERING TOO LARGE A, UH, REDUCTION IN FUNDING.

BUT, UM, I DON'T SEE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM HAPPENING, UH, VERY QUICKLY.

SO I THINK MOST COUNTIES GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT ON AN AD HOC BASIS.

MUCH LIKE THIS PROGRAM, WE'LL DEAL WITH OUR MENTALLY ILL AND CHEMICALLY DEPENDENT THROUGH THIS KIND OF DOCKET, UH, TREAT THOSE THAT WE BELIEVE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE PROGRAM AND TRY TO GET THOSE PEOPLE BACK INTO SOCIETY.

THE, THE SUPERVISION DONE FROM THE COURT, WHO SUPERVISE THESE MEETINGS? THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT WILL IT, IT IS REALLY A MULTI-PARTY, UH, PROJECT.

UH, I WILL BE DOING SUPERVISION EVERY FRIDAY AFTERNOON WHEN I CALL THE DOCKET AND BASICALLY INQUIRE AS TO THE STATUS OF PERFORMANCE OF THESE PEOPLE.

I WANT TO BE SURE THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING FOLLOWING THE TREATMENT PROGRAM, GETTING, UH, DRUG TESTING, UH, POSITIVE, UH, UH, NO POSITIVE RESULTS, NEGATIVE RESULTS ON THE DRUG TESTING, BEING SURE THEY'RE DOING THEIR REHAB AND THEIR THERAPY, BEING SURE THAT IF THEY'VE GOT A JOB, THEY'RE REPORTING, BEING SURE THEY'RE NOT RE-OFFENDING AND ALL OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

BUT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT WILL BE DOING A VERY INTENSIVE PROBATION COUNSELING.

THE MHMR PEOPLE WILL BE DOING THERAPY.

UH, OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER WILL BE MONITORING, OUR DA WILL BE INVOLVED ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS.

IF THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING, THEN THEY'LL CYCLE BACK INTO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

JUDGE, WHENEVER, UH, I FIRST STARTED ATTENDING YOUR MEETINGS, THIS LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A, A PROBLEM WITHOUT A SOLUTION, AND I'D LIKE COMMEND YOU FOR TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR IT, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT THE, THE JUDGE SAID.

WELL GO, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, YOU SAID THROUGH THIS YEAR, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ADDITIONAL COST.

WHAT ABOUT ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR NEXT YEAR? WELL, ASSUMING THAT THE NEW DISTRICT ATTORNEY, UH, CONTINUES TO PROVIDE SOME FUNDING, UH, SHOULD NOT BE ANY COST.

UH, IF WE CAN ASSESS SOME FEES TO THOSE WHO ARE ABLE TO PAY, THEN THOSE MONIES WILL GO INTO A FUND TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

WE CAN ASSESS UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PARTICIPANT.

AND SO THOSE WHO ARE ABLE TO PAY FOR SERVICES WILL BE ASSESSING FEES.

UH, IF THE NEW DISTRICT ATTORNEY WILL COOPERATE, UH, WHICH WE HAVE NO REASON TO THINK HE WON'T,

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UH, AND THOSE FUNDS FROM DISCRETIONARY MONIES IN THE DA'S OFFICE WILL BE AVAILABLE.

AND THE, THE ONLY PART OF THIS THAT WE'RE, FRANKLY NOT SURE OF THE FUNDING ON WOULD BE THE COURT LIAISON PORTION OF IT, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 15 TO 20,000 PER YEAR.

SO THERE'S NOT A HUGE COST INVOLVED, UH, EVEN IF IT'S NOT COVERED, BUT WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE COVERED.

NOW WE'LL BE CREATING A, A, UH, KAMAN COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH COURT, BUT IT'D BE UNDER THE 422ND.

RIGHT.

THE TERMINOLOGY IS, IS CAN'T BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT TRULY A, THIS IS NOT A COUNTY COURT MENTAL ILLNESS COURT.

THIS IS A DRUG AND A MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION COURT.

SO THESE ARE DIVERSION COURTS AUTHORIZED UNDER THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.

WE DON'T COMMIT PEOPLE TO MENTAL HOSPITALS.

THAT'S THE, THE COUNTY COURT'S JOB.

BUT WHAT WE DO IS THOSE WHO ARE DIAGNOSED WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS, WHO ARE CAUGHT UP IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, THEY ARE DIVERTED INTO THIS COURT PROGRAM FOR TREATMENT.

AND SO, WELL, MY POINT THEN THOUGH, IS THAT, THAT IT'S STILL THE 422ND.

IT IS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THIS, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE PROVIDES FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THESE COURTS, UH, BY THE COMMISSIONERS.

AND THEN THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED UNDER THE, THE CREATION OF THE DRUG AND MENTAL HEALTH COURTS, UH, CAN ASSESS FEES.

WE, WE CAN'T FRANKLY, ASSESS THOSE FEES WITHOUT THE COURT BEING ESTABLISHED UNDER THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.

SO THE REASON I'M REQUESTING APPROVAL IS SO THAT WE CAN NOTIFY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT WE HAVE CREATED THESE TWO DIVERSION COURTS.

WE CAN ALSO CAPTURE THAT $50 FEE THAT'S PAID ON EVERY NEW DRUG AND DWI CASE THAT IS BEING FILED.

AND THOSE MONIES CAN BE USED TO HELP DEFRAY COST OF THE PROGRAM AS WELL.

RIGHT NOW, JUDGE WILEY IS CAPTURING THAT MONEY, UH, THROUGH THEIR DWI COURT PROGRAM.

I'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE IN THOSE FUNDS IF YOU APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION.

DID, UH, YOU HAVE CHANGED YOUR NAME OR ANYTHING? UH, DO YOU HAVE THE OLD OR THE NEW VERSION OF THAT? UH, I'VE GOT ONE HERE THAT SAYS THAT THE ENVELOPE BRUCE CHITTY WILL BE PRESIDING.

YOU KNOW, I, I TALKED TO MR. LONG ABOUT THAT, AND AFTER I HELD HIM IN FOR JAIL FOR SIX MONTHS, HE CORRECTED IT.

THERE'S A NEW ONE WITH A GREAT, UH, VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD.

WELL, I HAVE THE INCORRECT ONE ALSO.

THESE, OH, THAT'S THE NEW ONE HE SENT ME.

SO HE MUST HAVE SENT ME THE SECOND.

HE SAID A THIRD ONE.

OH, HE DID? YEAH.

SO THE THIRD ONE WAS CORRECT? THIRD ONE IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

UH, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

I GOT THREE SECONDS ON SAME TIME.

YOU SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIED, JUDGE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, JUDGE, I'LL COME BY AND PICK UP A COPY OF THIS SO I CAN SEND IT DOWN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS JUDGE LEWIS HERE? OKAY.

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OKAY.

I'M GONNA SKIP DOWN TO ITEM 14.

UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER CAUSING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR INMATE HEALTHCARE SERVICES SLASH PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY JAIL.

ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO, WE HAD A PRESENTATION, UH, BROUGHT TO US, UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER GROUP, UH, TALKING TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND, UH, UH, IT SEEMED AT THE TIME THAT, UH, THERE POSS NOT BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME MONEY AT THE JAIL OPERATION IF WE WENT TO AN OUTSIDE SOURCE TO PROVIDE THE INMATE HEALTHCARE SERVICES, UH, POPULATION.

IF THE JAIL WENT DOWN.

UH, JACK THOUGHT THAT, UH, SINCE THE JAIL POPULATION WENT DOWN, HE DIDN'T SEE HOW WE COULD SAVE ANY MONEY.

UH, BUT I, I ASKED HIM THE OTHER DAY TO GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, GO OUT WITH THE, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

AGAIN.

WE BEEN DISCUSSING IT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

AND, UH, I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT'D SAVE US ANY MONEY OR NOT, BUT AS LONG AS THE POSSIBILITY WAS OUT THERE THAT IT COULD SAVE US SOME MONEY, I THOUGHT WE SHOULD AT LEAST EXPLORE.

UM, SO HE SAID WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS GIVE HIM, UH, NOT EXACTLY PERMISSION, BUT, UH, UH, AN OKAY BEFORE HE SPENT HIS TIME WORKING AT THE PROPOSAL.

AND, UM, SO HE ASKED ME TO PUT ON THE AGENDA, JACK'S ON VACATION THIS WEEK.

SO I TOLD HIM I'D GO AHEAD AND ASK Y'ALL TO CONSIDER DOING THAT.

AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS JUST GETTING HIM TO, TO GET IT DONE, TO GET HIM REQUEST.

OKAY.

HAVE TO GO FOR MADE BY COMMISSIONER.

I'LL SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

DISCUSSION THAT, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERY AVENUE WE WEEKEND TO TRY TO SECTION SOME MONEY FROM.

WELL, THAT WAS MY POINT.

AND JAIL POPULATIONS DOWN.

IT MAY NOT SAVE US A PENNY, BUT IF IT, IT MIGHT SAVE US, IT SAVE US ANYTHING, IT'LL BE, AT LEAST WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE TRY ANY MORE DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION TO CARRIE.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, INTRODUCE, UH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, FORMER DALLAS COUNTY COMMISSIONER, MR. GLORY.

HOR.

UH, MR. HORE HAS BEEN, UH, MY MENTOR SINCE 1975.

AND, UH, I TELL PEOPLE, HE TAUGHT ME EVERYTHING I KNOW, BUT THEN AGAIN, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH .

SO, SO I QUIT SAYING THAT BECAUSE .

BUT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, INTRODUCE Y'ALL TO MR. WAR.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW ROY.

THANK YOU.

GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

AND HIS HELPER BACK THERE.

RICHARD .

WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE.

UH, LET'S GET BACK TO THE, UH, NINE 30.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING SETTING OF 20 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON DUCK CREEK ROAD IN KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE, AND PLACING A 20 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGN ON DUCK CREEK ROAD.

YES, SIR.

PRECINCT REGULAR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THERE A SECOND ON THAT.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

ALL AYE, MOTION CARRIES.

SO WE'LL EXIT OUR REGULAR MEETING AND GO INTO A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THAT SPEED LIMIT.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FAR OR AGAINST THAT ITEM? AND THAT ITEM IS SETTING A 20 MILES SPEED LIMIT ON DUCK CREEK ROAD IN PRECINCT THREE.

NONE BEING HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST.

I WOULD MAKE, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO TO BACK TO OUR REGULAR MEETING.

I, MR. JACKSON MASON.

COMMISSIONER DE SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

SO NOW WE'RE BACK INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SETTING THE 20 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON DUCK CREEK IN COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT THREE AND PLACING THE 20 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGN ON DUCK CREEK ROAD.

COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER LER WILL SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR OF SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? HE DID.

I'M SORRY.

DISCUSSION.

CAN WE DO 20 MILE AN HOUR SPEAKING CHAIR? I WAS ASKED, I WAS ASKED ABOUT THAT ONE TIME AND I WAS TOLD WE COULDN'T GO BELOW A CERTAIN CERTAIN.

WELL, THE, THE, YOU

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KNOW, THE UNIVERSAL THEME IN AN URBAN AREA IS NOT POSTED 30 MILES AN HOUR, UH, ALL OF A SUDDEN OR WHOEVER IT, THAT'S NOT A SAFE, THIS THIS ROAD HERE.

COMMISSION IS THE CIVILIAN ROAD GOES DOWN TO, UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH START UNTIL I STARTED MAINTAINING THIS YEAR.

GOT MOVED.

NOW THEY SAY THEY'RE DRIVING TOO FAST, DON'T THEY? SO, WELL, I, I RATHER, I PROBABLY HAVE EVERYBODY IN MY PRECINCT ASKING ME TO LOWER SPEED LIMIT 20 MILES AN DOWN ROAD.

.

THAT'S WHY I, LIKE I SAY, I, I THOUGHT WE COULD GO BELOW THE 30.

WE HAD THIS ISSUE IN SCURRY AT THE SCHOOL WHEN THEY WANTED TO LOWER THAT IN THE SCHOOL ZONE.

UH, AND WE LOWERED IT BETWEEN, I'VE GOT SOME IN MY THAT 20, BUT, UH, AND WE CHECKED THEM ONCE AND THEY SAID, YEAH, YOU CAN DO IT, BUT YOU JUST DID BEFORE THE COURT.

YEAH, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'LL GET A BUNCH OF THEM DONE.

SO YOU WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

.

I SAY MOTION CARRIED.

OKAY, HERE, UH, JUDGE LEWIS WANTED TO, UH, PERMISSION TO HIRE A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE FOR JULY.

I ASSUME, I ASSUME HE, UH, HE HAS $10,000 IN HIS, UH, FOR, FOR AS FAR AS I, AS FAR AS I KNOW.

SO, UH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DULLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.

ALL, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, JOHN, I'M GOING TO DISCUSS PROPOSED COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER TO ENFORCE TRAFFIC LAWS AT KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE WINTER CIRCLE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BY THE TA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE AREA DESIGNATED EXHIBIT A ATTACHED TO THE PROPOSED ORDER.

ANYONE HERE WILL SPEAK ON THAT? SHERIFF? UH, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ANYBODY THAT JUDGE.

UH, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM OUT THERE.

THEY'VE GOT A PART-TIME POLICE OFFICER THAT IS A, UH, YOU KNOW, A SEMI COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE TO HAVE, GO OUT THERE AND ENFORCE ANYTHING OTHER THAN STATE LAW.

AND, UH, I THINK AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC CONTROL, UH, IF WE'RE GOING SPEED LIMITS, WE WOULD TO THOSE PROPERLY APPROVED AND PA I HAVE NOT, I WOULD SUGGEST WE PASS IT UNTIL WE SPEAK WITH JOHN.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DOING, UH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO BE OUT THERE HELPING, YOU KNOW, DO THAT ONE OFFICER PART.

OKAY.

I THINK WHAT THE ISSUE WAS, AND IT LOOKED LIKE, UH, RICK HAS WORKED THROUGH IT WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS OR WHATEVER, ABOUT HALF THE SUBDIVISION'S IN THE CITY LIMITS AND THE BACK HALF OF THE SUBDIVISION IS OUTSIDE THEIR CITY LIMITS.

YES.

AND ONE TIME THE SHERIFF, THEN THEY WANT TO JUST, JUST TO ENFORCE THE COUNTY PORTION WHAT THIS NEW, UH, RESOLUTION COVERS OUR COVERS THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE.

YOU CAN THAT THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANTED IT TO BE.

IS IT NOT? THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WITH THE PAST ADMINISTRATION AND I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO OUT THERE.

WE NEVER CAME TO THAT.

NEVER CAME TO, WHEN I TALKED TO JOHN ABOUT THIS OTHER DAY, HE SAID IT'S WRITTEN UP SO THAT THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION YOU TO BE SURE BEFORE WE DO IT.

RIGHT.

HAVE YOU NOT SEEN A COPY OF THIS YET? THOSE TRACTOR CONTROL LICENSE HAVE BEEN SO WE KNOW THE SPEED LIMIT AND ALL THE TOP SIGNS THEY HAVE BEEN.

OKAY.

IF THIS IS A, WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THIS? NOT A POLITICAL SUB.

WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THE SHERIFF DEPUTY'S TIME TO DO IT? WELL, HE COULD.

IT IS JUST LIKE THE SHERIFF CAN, CAN HE NOT WRITE, UH, TICKETS IN IN THE CITY LIMITS? I'M SURE IT DID, BUT THIS IS THE, THIS, THIS WAS A PREDICATED SUBDIVISION AND THEY HAD SPEED BUMPS IN HOME NINE YARD.

THEY TOOK ALL THOSE OUT IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR SOMEONE TO GO IN THERE AND DO, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL.

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ACTUALLY I THOUGHT THAT BECAUSE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PEOPLE WANTED BY TWO LOAD OF THE AMBULANCE GETTING IN.

UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT FRONT HALF, IT WAS INSIDE THEIR, SO, SO THEIR CITY PATROLMEN COULD PATROL THE FRONT HALF, THE BACK HALF WAS IN THE COUNTY.

SO IT'S A COUNTY, IT'S NOT A, I DON'T THINK WE'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE FOR AN HOA OR ANYBODY.

IS IT NOT IN THE REAL WORLD.

WE HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND WHETHER SO ON THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE COUNTY.

THEY, THEY, I'M SURE THEY HAVE HOA AFTER, BUT HAVE HOAS.

IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ACTION ON SOME THINGS THAT IT WOULD GO OUT, COULDN'T NORMALLY HAVE CAN'T DO THE COUNTER CARD ANYWAY, DOES IT? RIGHT.

IF THE COUNTY WRITE THE TICKETS THAT NOT REASON WHY YOU SAY THE TICKETS NEED TO BE FILED, THE TICKET WOULD BE FILED AND HAVE YOU NOT SAYING THIS SHERIFF.

PARDON? HAVE YOU NOT SAYING THIS? I HAVE NOT.

THE ONLY THING I TOLD WOULD BE, UH, UH, ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

WELL I WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK IT OVER AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, BECAUSE IT DOES, IT DOES SAY THAT IT HAS TO BE FILED WITHIN THEIR MUNICIPAL COURT.

AND LET ME LET YOU HAVE THIS AND YOU CAN LOOK IT OVER AND I WE'LL KNOW THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL I DON'T THE, THE SHERIFF OBJECT.

IT JOHN, JOHN HAS APPROVED IT AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WHAT WE WERE TRYING, I JUST THINK JOHN HAVE CROSSED PATH.

I'LL TABLE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON ALL THURSDAY.

AYE.

A A MOTION CARRIES AND THAT ITEM WILL BE TABLED.

UH, DISCUSS REVIEWING AND CONSIDERING PROVEN THE PURCHASE OF BUILDING AT 39 50 SOUTH HOUSTON, UH, KAUFMAN PURCHASE PRICE THREE 50,000 AND SHALL INCLUDE ALL FURNITURE, FURNISHINGS, ATTACHMENTS TO REAL PROPERTY.

UH, THE COURT SHALL ALSO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE LETTER BE SIGNED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THIRD PARTIES THAT REFLECT THE TERMS OF THE SALE.

UH, MR. LONG, UH, TOLD ME THAT HE HAD THAT LETTER FINISHED, UH, TO BE READ FOR MY SIGNATURE.

ONCE THE COURT PASS THE FINAL ORDER, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROUNDS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

ANY DISCUSSION? UH, CAN WE PAY MORE THAN APPRAISED PRICE FOR IT? UH, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT APPRAISED PRICE.

IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT OUR ESTIMATE WAS.

UH, ASKED JOHN TO RESEARCH THAT BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION QR AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT'S WORDED IN THERE, THE DISTRICT PROPOSED TO SELL ITS CURRENT OFFICE FACILITY FOR ITS CURRENT MARKET VALUE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY THREE 50.

THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT'S AN EXACT AMOUNT.

I FRONT IT SAYS, I ASKED HIM IF THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY TO PAY MORE THAN APPRAISED PRICES.

I ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT APPRAISED PRICES ON IN THE LAST ELECTION.

I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THE APPRAISED WAS 3 4 7 4 7 6 4 2.

UH, WE COULD PASS THE ORDER SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

OKAY.

MR. WHERE? 3, 4, 7, 6 OR THE THREE? Y'ALL STILL SET THE 3 47? NO, IT DOES NOT.

YEAH, THE 3 47 DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PAINTED FURNISHINGS AND FIXTURES.

ANDRE, WELL I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO Y'ALL WANT TO MODIFY THAT TO SAY SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL BY THE, UH,

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DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL CHANGE THAT TO THAT LAURA, WITH FINAL APPROVAL BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

OKAY.

SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL.

BUT THE APPRAISER APPRAISAL JUST INCLUDES THE BUILDING ITSELF AND NOT THE FAST FIXTURES AND STUFF.

AND THE CONTRACT INCLUDES, UM, ALL THE FIXTURES AND FURNISHINGS AND ATTACHMENTS AND EVERYTHING.

BUT WE'LL GET FINAL APPROVAL.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, NEXT WE'RE DOWN TO MR. POWELL JONES.

OH GUYS, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE.

NEXT WE'RE DOWN TO MR. HOW JONES.

AND HE'S GONNA SU AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE DISTRICT CLERK'S REQUEST TO PROVIDE A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT FOR THE RECORD STORAGE IN THE OLD JAIL PORTION OF SOUTH CAMPUS.

AND THE EXPENDITURE WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE DISTRICT CLERK'S RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND.

THIS IS JERRY.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE, UH, UH, ALL OF THE BEING IN THE HEAT OUT THERE.

THEY WEREN'T AIR CONDITION OUT THERE.

WERE YOU STORING STUFF? YEAH.

Y'ALL, WE RECALL WE, UH, COMMISSION'S COURT PASSED, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, RESOLUTION TO, UH, FOR DISTRICT CLERK TO PURCHASE SOME SOME NEW FILING SYSTEMS. AND, AND HAD SHE HAD MOVED HER, UH, OLD FILES OUT TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS IN, IN THE OLD JAIL PORTION.

UH, I'M NOT REALLY HERE TO CHAMPION THIS CAUSE SHE JUST REQUESTED THAT I GET IT ON THE, THE AGENDA.

BUT SHE IS GONNA PAY FOR IT WITH FUNDS OUT OF HER.

YES, IT IS.

IT IS FOR THE PROTECTION OF HER RECORDS.

YEAH.

WHAT HAPPENED, JUDGE? SHE MOVED PROBABLY OVER A HUNDRED FILING CABINETS OUT THERE WITH RECORDS IN THERE.

NOW IF YOU REMEMBER, UH, I THINK IT'S WHERE THE CHAPEL WAS OUT THERE.

UH, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THAT THING WAS BUILT AND THAT PART WASN'T AIR CONDITIONED.

YEAH.

OKAY, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

GO AHEAD.

WELL, I, THATS WHAT I FOUND OUT.

THAT THING USED TO BE WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT, THAT WAS SET UP AS A, A GYM OR A BASKETBALL AREA WHERE THEY COULD PLAY BASKETBALL THERE AND IT WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP.

YEAH.

SO HAD THE STEEL MESH, BUT THEN IT GOT COVERED IN AND THEY HAD CHAPEL OUT THERE AND THERE'S AIR CONDITIONING ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF IT.

UH, BUT SHE'S WORRIED ABOUT THESE THINGS SITTING OUT THERE AND SWEATING IN THOSE CABINET.

WELL, SHE HAS SOMEBODY OUT THERE AT LEAST ONCE A DAY GOING THROUGH THOSE OLD RECORDS AND UH, IF SHE'S ABLE TO PAY FOR IT WITH THE FUNDS OUT OF HER, UH, UH, GRANT THING, I, I GUESS I, AND WHAT DID HE, DID HE TELL YOU WHAT IT FIVE, SIX, $7,000 I HEARD 9,700 MAX.

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

I WOULD SAY IT'S JUST THE 10,000 PIPE IT IN FROM SOME SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT IS THERE ANOTHER AIR CONDITION IN THAT BUILDING TO YEAH, EVERYTHING ELSE THERE? YEAH.

NOT WOULD IT BE CHEAPER NOT SEVEN TO MOVE INTO AIR CONDITION PART OF IT SINCE IT STARTED AIR CONDITION? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AIR.

YEAH, THAT WAS, WE, WE HAD PUT IT IN ANOTHER ROOM AND THEN I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE HAD, UH, HAD STUFF IN THAT ROOM.

SHE WANTS IT TO IT.

SOME SOME OF IT IS CRITICAL INFORMATION THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT.

THIS HAS TO BE, NEEDS TO BE LOCKED OFF.

AND HER GIRLS HAVE A KEY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GO OUT THERE ON SATURDAY NIGHT, ANYTIME ALL THOSE OTHER AIR CONDITIONING THINGS ARE RUNNING FULL BLAST ALL THE TIME.

THAT, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER STORY.

WHICH IS, YOU SAID YOU HAVE SOMEONE GOING OUT THERE AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK, ONCE A DAY, ONCE A DAY.

I'VE SEEN THAT KIND INCONVENIENCE TO TRY TO WORK IN HERE WITHOUT HER.

EXACTLY.

WHATEVER.

WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING.

WELL IF SHE COULD DO IT WITH HER, HER, UH, WITH HER UH, GRANT, THEN I GUESS THAT'S, I GUESS I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT SEEMED REALLY SILLY TO ME AT FIRST, BUT I DIDN'T WANT US TO BE, UH, OUT ANY OF THAT.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT WASN'T AIR CONDITIONED THAT WE CAN WITH EVERYTHING ELSE OUT THERE IS 41 DEGREES WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING IF THERE'S NOT ANOTHER SPOT THAT IS ALREADY SUBZERO HOLDING THE WALL.

BUT ANYWAY, SHE DOES HAVE PEOPLE WHO GO OUT THERE PERIODICALLY AND WORK ON IT.

BE AIR CONDITION ELECTRICITY.

YEAH.

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WELL JERRY, YOU WANT MAKE THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

DO I GET A SECOND ON IT? YEAH.

SWEAT.

MR. JACKSON SECTION SOME MOTION.

ALL FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

WHAT? LIKE JUDGE, WHAT, WHAT BIDS ON THAT? WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF YOU.

WELL THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

ATE CONTRACT WHAT'S GONNA BE UNDER 15,000.

THAT'S FINE.

THANK YOU.

I THINK MR. COURT, NEXT ONE WE'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING PROCLAMATION CONGRATULATING ROBERT CORMAN ON HIS RETIREMENT.

YES JUDGE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND ANDY, ANGIE GETTING TOGETHER AND HELPING ME WITH THIS THING.

ROBERT HAD BEEN WITH US FOR 33 YEARS AND UH, HE HAS DIABETES AND IT HAS TO GO TO, UH, DIALYSIS TWO DAYS A WEEK.

IT STILL COMES IN AND WORKS THE OTHER THREE DAYS.

SO HE'S BEEN WITH US A LONG TIME.

HE CAN DRIVE ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE, WHICH IS ALSO PRETTY NICE.

BUT ANYWAY, WE HAD A LITTLE LUNCHEON FOR HIM OUT THERE AND UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THE 33 WE, 33 YEARS THAT HE'D BEEN WITH US.

WE WENT AROUND WITH UH, DID YOU BRING HIM WITH YOU THIS MORNING? NO, I, HE, HE HAD TO GO TO DIALYSIS TODAY, BUT WE DECIDED THAT HE CAME INTO OFFICE WHEN JIMMY CARTER WAS PRESIDENT, I THINK.

AND HOW COUCH WAS HIS COMMISSIONER AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVEN PRESIDENTS AND SEVEN COMMISSIONER SINCE THEN.

ANYWAY, HE WAS A VERY GOOD EMPLOYEE AND UH, WE WERE GLAD TO DO WHATEVER WE COULD.

SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THAT WHOLE PROCLAMATION MORE DISCUSSION.

HE'D HAVE GREAT EMPLOYEE TO WORK FOR SEVEN DIFFERENT, MAYBE SEND HIM A SYMPATHY.

YEAH, HE WAS A GOOD GUY.

I, IF I EVER SAY I , IF SAY I, I WAS COUNTING BACKWARDS TO SEE WHO WAS COUNTY JUDGE AT THE TIME.

YEAH, I FORGOT ABOUT THE JUDGES.

I WAS COUNTING BACKWARDS.

JERRY, MAKE IT PRETTY.

JUDGE YOU WANT ME TO JUST TAKE THIS AND GIVE IT TO HIM? YEAH, WE DON'T NEED THE ORIGINAL.

DO YOU HAVE A COPY? HAVE TWO COPIES? YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAKE THE ORIGINAL AND ONE COPY WITH YOU.

OKAY.

JUST SIGN THE OTHER COPY AND LEAVE IT WITH, OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY, WELL CONGRATULATIONS TO, UH, MR. GOMAN DISCUSS AND CONSIDER DECLARING P TWO MOTION PLAN LIMITED, LIMITED LIABILITY CORPORATION OF SOLE SOURCE MOTION VENDOR PER SECTION 2 62 0.024 DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTIONS.

A SEVEN A OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

I ASSUME THAT'S ONE OF JACK'S.

YEAH, JACK GOING TO PUT THAT ON THERE, UH, HERE FROM B TWO, BUT, UH, THEY'VE GOT, UH, SOLE SOURCE EXEMPTIONS FROM SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES JACK PROTECT INTO.

SO IT'S BEEN, I GUESS IT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED THEY ARE SOLE SORT PROVIDER AND OBJECTIVE.

WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOVER UNDER CODE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE RENTAL AND I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

ALL IN COURTESY.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER A PROVEN AGREEMENT BETWEEN NGO OR NNGO AND THE COUNTY CLERK THAT OUTLINES THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ELECTRONICALLY REPORTING LAND RECORD DOCUMENTS.

IS THAT SELF-EXPLANATORY? I GUESS THAT IS EXCEPT

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FOR THE FACT THAT WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST? THIS IS, IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING.

THIS IS OUR SECOND VENDOR WHO'S COME ON BOARD AND WE ALREADY HAVE SIMPLIFIED ON BOARD FILING ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS THROUGH OUR, OUR LAND REPORTING SYSTEM.

NGO IS JUST ANOTHER COMPANY THAT BASICALLY DEALS WITH BANKS AND RELEASE OF LIENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, JOHN CREATED A CONTRACT AND WANTED THEM TO SIGN, YOU KNOW, ANY VENDOR THAT COMES IN WANTS 'EM TO SIGN THAT CONTRACT, BUT IT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

BASICALLY IT'S JUST A SOFTWARE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO BANKS, COMPANIES, THINGS LIKE THAT TO HAVE DOCUMENT SYSTEM.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE.

OKAY.

NOW IS THIS, UH, SAY, UH, DEAL CLOSES AT THE ABSTRACT COMPANY? IS THIS SAYING THAT INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY BRINGING THOSE PAPERS OVER TO YOUR OFFICE, THEY JUST ELECTRONICALLY TRANSFER 'EM TO YOUR OFFICE? IS THAT WHAT THIS IS? YES.

AND THEN THEY GET, AS SOON AS WE LOOK IT UP, THEY GET IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK ON THE BUYING INTAKE AND THE SOFTWARE TAKES CARE OF ALL THE FINANCES AND THE BASIC INDEXING.

AND THE SCANNING.

HOW DOES THE MONEY GET TRANSFERRED FOR YOUR FEES? UH, A CH.

WE GOT ALL THAT.

A CH IS? YEAH.

WHAT IS AC IT IT BASICALLY, IT'S AN ELECTRONIC FUND TRANSFER TO THE BANK AND WE GET IT.

UH, I BELIEVE IT'S THE NEXT DAY, BUT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS WITH THE OTHER VENDOR.

SIMPLIFY.

AND WE HAVE ANOTHER VENDOR THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THIS ONE, WHICH IS ERX.

DO ANY ABSTRACT COMPANIES ACTUALLY DO THIS? YES.

YES.

WE'VE HAD WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ORIGINAL PAPERS THOUGH? THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS THAT GOT THE PERSON'S SEXUAL SIGNATURE ON IT? THE, THE TITLE COMPANIES ARE VERIFYING THEIR, YOU KNOW, THE INK AND THE STAMP.

WERE LOOKING FOR SIGNATURES AND NOTARY STAMPS.

SAY THAT AGAIN THERE BOTH THE, THERE'S A PROGRAM ELECTRONIC FILE.

I THINK IT'S, YOU READ UP WAS SIGNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT ALLOWED FOR ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES TO BE ACCEPTED AND ALL THESE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SENT THROUGH THE, AND THE BANKS ALL HAD TO COMPLY WITH THOSE REGULATIONS SO THAT WHEN THEY RECEIVE, WHEN WE RECEIVE IT, THAT'S ALREADY VERIFIED AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE ON THE HOOK IF IT'S A FOUR THREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT BASICALLY THE NOTARIES HAVE TO VERIFY THE SIGNATURE OF THE PERSON SIGNING IT AND WE'LL SEE THE NAME OF THE PERSON SIGNING IT AND THE NOTARY STAMP.

SO THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL DOCUMENT THEN STAYS WITH THE ABSTRACT COMPANY? YES.

BUT WHAT IF IT'S NOT AN ABSTRACT COMPANY THAT CLOSES? IF IT'S IN A LAWYER'S OFFICE, LAWYERS CAN ALSO SIGN UP FOR THIS.

WELL WHAT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO? THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

NO, IT'S VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.

WE ONLY HAVE 10% OF OUR STUFF NOW.

MOST OF IT IS, THIS ONE BASICALLY DEALS WITH THE LARGE BANKS.

WELL FARGO AND SOME OF THOSE, UM, SIMPLIFI HAS DONE AMERICAN TITLE, NATIONAL TITLE, THE BIG TITLE COMPANIES.

THAT'S VERY WELL REGULATED AND THERE'S NO, NO EXPENSE NOW OR IN THE FUTURE, NO MAINTENANCE IN THE FUTURE.

ANYTHING WE HAVE TO DO, THERE'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'S IN THE CONTRACT.

DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY APPLY THE PAGE? YES.

AND YOU SAID THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS, THAT'D BE THE, THE NOTE AND THE DEED OF TRUST.

UH, ACTUALLY THE NOTES NOT RECORDED BUT UH, ABOUT THE DEED ITSELF IS THAT AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERRED ANYTHING, ANYTHING THAT THEY FILE THAT'S ALLOWED TO BE FILED CAN BE E-FILED.

OKAY.

THEY SEND YOU SOME KIND OF STATEMENT SAYING THAT THEY FILE THIS MANY DOCUMENTS AND YOU GET, YOU'RE GETTING AS MUCH MONEY.

YES.

THEY HAVE REPORTS SO WE CAN RUN AT ANY POINT IN TIME AND WE VERIFY IT AND TRANSFER VERIFIES IT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY GO DO IT.

OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE DOING THIS, I NOTICED IN HERE IT SAID THIS IS AN EMERGING TECHNOLOGY SO IT MEANS IT'S KIND OF ON THE CUTTING EDGE A LITTLE BIT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S EMERGING ANYMORE.

IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR A WHILE, BUT ALL THE LARGER ONES, DALLAS, DENTON.

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AS LONG AS IT WON'T COST THE COUNTY ANYWAY, SAVE A LITTLE MANPOWER TIME, WOULDN'T IT? IT DOES.

IT DOES.

YEAH, SURE WOULD.

DOES THAT MEAN WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET WE KNOCK OFF A PERSON OR TWO? ? SHE DIDN'T SAVE THAT MUCH.

I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO LOOK AT WAYS TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT.

SO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.

IT DEFINITELY SAVES TIME CUT DOWN.

NOT GONNA COST THE COUNTY ANY MONEY.

YEAH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A A MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER ACCEPTING ANNUAL ROAD REPORT FOR FILING FROM COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.

YES SIR.

DO Y'ALL HAVE THAT PRETTY THING IN FRONT OF Y'ALL THIS MORNING? I'M SURE MR. JACKSON WOULD, WOULD LIKE US TO APPROVE THAT ? YES SIR.

JUSTIN, WE NEED TO, TO GET THESE DATES THE SAME ON ALL OF 'EM.

EVENTUALLY, EVENTUALLY THERE ARE SOME OF 'EM SAYS, UH, 2010 TO 2011 AND ONE SAYS 20 2009 OR 2010 SHOULD 10 11.

THAT'S BUDGET.

THIS NEXT BUDGET HERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT.

IS THIS 10 AND 11? YEAH.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

I I'LL CHANGES TO 10 11.

THIS, THAT'S MINE.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER JIM DELL.

FOUR.

YEAH.

IS THIS AND WHAT IS THAT? ONE? THREE.

THREE THREE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE I DON'T HAVE THREE.

I JUST WANT KNOW BEFORE WE DO.

WELL THAT'S WHAT IT'S, I NEED TO GET THE COVER.

UH, LET'S SEE.

PRECINCT THREE.

THE LAW SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT ON THE FORM APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

WHAT FORM WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER COURT? WAS IT JUST THIS FRONT PLACE? FRONT PART, YES.

WE APPROVED THAT YEAR AGO.

OKAY, SO WE DON'T NEED TO DO ALL THE ROAD MR. ROADS IN THERE.

WE JUST NEED LIST THE CONDITIONS OF OUR ROADS AND THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS FOR A ROAD.

IS THAT CORRECT? GET OVER HERE FOR EACH ROAD, CITY.

I THINK YOU LIST EACH ROAD.

STATE THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD.

GOOD, FAIR, GOOD, FAIR OR POOR.

THEN NUMBER TWO IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY NECESSARY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL THE ROADS.

WE'VE ALWAYS BROKEN IT DOWN BY ROAD, BROKEN DOWN LIKE THAT.

BUT IS THAT, WAS THAT THE APPROVED, THAT'S THE FORM THAT WAS APPROVED.

UH, THE FRONT PAGE, UH, THAT, UH, YOUR PRECINCT DID THAT FEW YEARS AGO.

DID YOU FEEL THAT? SEE FOUR.

YOURS IS COURT DIDN'T THAT THE FORMAT THAT WE USE IS THE ONE THAT WE APPROVED.

THAT'S, UH, I WAS THINKING THE WHOLE FORMAT WAS APPROVED.

NOT JUST THE FRONT PAGE.

NO, THE WHOLE FORMAT.

WHOLE, YEAH.

YOU WANNA CHANGE IT? I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM CHANGING IT.

I AGREE.

EITHER.

MAYBE A LITTLE MORE.

I'M GOING, I I'M NOT GONNA SUBMIT MINE IN A FANCY LITTLE BILL AND I I COULD DO IT ON ONE PAGE.

I DO IT ON ONE PAGE TO KEEP THEM KILLING TREES.

I'LL GIVE YOU.

AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T HOW MUCH INFORMATION WAS ACTUALLY REQUIRED PER THAT FORM TO IMPROVE? THAT'S BEEN SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO.

IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU HAD MORE MILES THAN ROAD MILES? NO, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.

HOW COME YOU GET SO MUCH MORE MONEY THAN OTHERS? I GOT TWICE A ROADS NOW.

YOUR ROB'S NOT ON THERE JUDGE, DON'T BE LOOKING AT YOUR .

DID CHECK, SEE ANYWHERE CLOSE GETTING THE SCHEDULE AFTER REDISTRICTING? IT MIGHT BE OKAY.

I MAKE DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH OF 'EM OR JUST APPROVE YOUR OH, I DIDN'T KNOW WE DID.

UH, THERE TO ME FOR YOU.

OKAY.

PROCEED.

I WAS DOING MY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

APPRECIATE NUMBER TWO.

COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

3 3 3.

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TWO'S NOT HERE.

TWO'S NOT HERE.

THREE.

I TWO WILL SECOND IT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

I KNEW TWO WAS COMING IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL SECOND IT ON THURSDAY.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ER WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE PRECINCT FOUR REPORT FOR PRECINCT FOUR.

I'LL SECOND HIS AND COMMISSIONER ROUND WILL SECOND THAT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR.

MOTION.

CARRIE.

NOW I WANNA TALK ABOUT, UH, REPLACING AN EMPLOYEE, UH, ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT FOUR.

YEP.

I NEED TO REPLACE IT ON MY EMPLOYEES AND MAKE THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIED.

UH, LINK.

MOTION JURY.

CABLE COUNTY ROAD 1 41.

OKAY.

WE NEED PUMPS OUT THAT, YEAH.

JERRY, MAKE THAT MOTION.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

I PRECINCT FOUR.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE LET CENTURY LAKE BURY CAPABLE.

UM, UNDER CROSS AND UNDER THE RIGHT OF WAY OF 40 30.

PARTY FURTHER SECOND.

SECONDED BACK TO COMMISSIONER.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

DO WE HAVE ANY UH, EXCUSE? YES, WE DO.

AND, UH, UNDER GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WE PROPOSED MOVING $4,000 FROM THE AUDIT FEES TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

EXCUSE ME.

VICKY NEEDS TO TALK TO YOU.

THERE'S AN EMERGENCY PLEASE.

IN MY OFFICE.

I'VE GOT ONE GONE.

SORRY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE LINE ITEMS. JP ONE INCREASE OFFICE SUPPLIES $150 OF EXTRA HELP JURY FUND INCREASE JUROR MEALS.

500 FOR YOUR CARDS.

CONSTABLE PRECINCT.

FOUR.

INCREASED COMMUNICATIONS.

$300 FOR MILEAGE MEALS AND LODGING AND CHARITIES.

POOR AND RELIEF FUND.

WE'VE GOT, UH, UH, MOVING A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO THE DISTRICT TO THE 122ND DISTRICT COURT AND 6,679.

COUNTY COURT LAW NUMBER TWO FROM 86.

DISTRICT COURT.

STER, WHAT BASIS IS THAT? UH, WHEN WE BUDGET, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A BIG NUMBER AND WE JUST SPLIT IT KIND OF LIKE WE WERE SPLIT LAST YEAR.

SO AS, AS THE COSTS COME IN, THEY DON'T COME IN LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.

WELL, WHAT, WHAT IS 48 90? WHAT'S THE LINE ITEM ON THAT? 48 90.

THAT'S, THAT'S INDIGEN ATTORNEY.

OKAY.

ARE THE FORESTER INCREASE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS TO HUNDRED DOLLARS FROM GAS AND OIL CAPITAL OUTLAY.

MOVE A HUNDRED, MOVE $10,000 TO AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING FROM HEALTH INSURANCE.

COMPUTER SWITCH OF 11,000 BETWEEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOFTWARE GROUP, WHICH AGAIN IS VERY SIMILAR TYPE UH, COMPUTER COSTS ARE KIND OF OUS BUT WITHIN THE SAME AREA.

CHILD SHELTER INCREASE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSE.

200 FOR COMMUNICATION ROAD BRIDGE ONE INCREASE NEW EQUIPMENT, 20,000 FROM ROAD MATERIALS.

AND WE HAVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS $99 ADJUSTMENT IN THE JUVENILE PROBATION 40 FUND, WHICH IS STATE.

ESSENTIALLY WE'RE CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL GRANT REVENUES FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

3005 82 FOR EXTRA HELP AND MEALS.

Y'ALL HEARD THE UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST? ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK ALL IN.

AND I GUESS WE GOT A BILL OR TWO TO PAY.

YES SIR.

I SUGGEST APPROVE THESE BILLS TODAY.

MAYBE, BUT DON'T BRING US ANYMORE.

UH, I SEE WHAT I CAN DO, SIR.

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GET Y'ALL TO SIGN ALL THOSE COPIES.

FRONT PAGE THAT HAS BRUCE, I GOT FIRED THE OTHER DAY.

JUDGE BRUCE, ARE YOU SPLIT? HELP ME OUT HERE.

WE TALKED TO THE SHERIFF, OTHER THIS FROM THE JAIL.

THE SHERIFF, CAN THEY GET THEIR PRINT EVERY WEEK? MM-HMM .

SURE THEY CAN.

THEY GET IT EVERY MONTH.

BUT THEY GET THIS EVERY MONTH.

YEAH, WELL THEY GET LIKE Y'ALL'S MONTHLY REPORTS THAT YOU GET EVERY MONTH.

THEY GET THAT EVERY MONTH.

YEAH.

I THINK WHEN WE GOING OVER THEIR BUDGET WITH ANOTHER THING WAS THAT THEY THOUGHT A LOT OF THINGS WERE NOT CREDITED TO THE CORRECT ACCOUNTS.

AND I SAID WE GET, WE GET, WE LOOK AT ALL OURS TO SEE THAT IT IS GOING TO UH, WHICH ONE GOES TO AND WOULD BE DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT.

ANYBODY WANTED THAT WOULD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU, YOU HEAR NO BY EMAIL.

EMAIL.

I KNOW YOU COULD, BUT GIVE ANYBODY THAT ABILITY ALSO ALLOWS I NO, YOU CAN'T BACK UP BECAUSE I'LL, LET ME, LET ME CHECK IN.

SO HOW DIFFICULT IS, I'M KIND OF LIKE A JUDGE.

I'VE BEEN A LITTLE CHALLENGE.

THEY, THEY REQUESTING IN THE SHERIFF IN THE JAIL TO GET, OKAY, WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH THAT BILL? NUMBER TWO.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR ME.

THAT'S KIM.

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THANK YOU.

CHRIS BURNS.

THAT'S A WATER BILL ON I SENT IT IN, I SIGNED IT.

IT'S A WATER BILL.

WE PAY THEM ONCE A MONTH.

THE WATER THAT WE, WHAT'S ALL THAT SCRIBBLING ON HERE? I DUNNO WHO DID THAT PAPER? I THINK CHRIS, MY OFFICE.

CHRIS, CHRIS DIDN'T.

OKAY, I JUST, WHO PUT P TWO ON? DID YOU PUT P TWO? WE USED, WE USED IT ONE TIME.

YEAH.

SO WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR PICTURE SIR? WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR VA CCH PUT START SMOKING.

I'M SURE TIME WAS LIKE SEVEN.

ALL WE NEED IS KEEP THE FIRE ON.

WE DIDN'T LEAVE THE MOTOR IN REAR END AND WENT WITH IT.

HEY, DID YOU DID COME.

WASN'T MECHANIC THERE? I HAVE A RUBBER TIRE ABOUT WHEELS AND TIRES AND EVERYTHING.

THAT'S WHAT THE, WELL I GOT TWO OR THREE PIECES TO SELL.

COVERED TRUCK.

OKAY.

AS A CONTRACTOR MATTER, I JUST PASS ON BACK I'M SURE WHAT? NINE WHEEL RUBBER TIRE ROLLER I HAVE.

I THINK I HAD ONE NOW THEY DON'T HAVE A AND DON'T MOTOR GOTTA HAVE WORKERS' COMPS.

IT IT, I HAD A PAINT CAR ONE TIME BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY FROM IT.

REALLY? YEAH.

AND I HAD PAPER PAINTED CAR.

WIND WAS BLOWING.

WIND WAS BLOWING.

NO, ACTUALLY

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WE WERE POURING CONCRETE AND THEY SAID, WELL THE TRUCK CAME BY.

SOME OF THE CONCRETE CAME OFF THE BACK OF THE TRUCK AND GOT OFF THE, AND HAVE THE CAR.

WE COULDN'T PROVE IT.

THEY COULDN'T APPROVE IT.

OH YEAH.

IT WAS CHEAPER THAN ATTORNEY AND THE DEAL.

ANYBODY THAT SAW CAME DOWN, RUB SAW.

IT'S GOT THAT MENTALITY.

YEAH.

I'M SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T.

I'M SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T GET SOME.

IT WAS PRETTY WINDY.

SOME OF THAT.

TELL YOU A FUNNY THING.

30 WE, UH, PARKED THE MOTORS RADAR ALONGSIDE THE ROAD AND IT DID AND BROKE A WATER METER.

THE WATER COMES.

IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE.

THAT'S SO I SAID I'LL PAY FOR IT COMES FROM THE 1150, THAT'S ALL.

IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? WHAT THE CITY THAT UP? UM, WE PAID THE ON CITY PAY.

THIS IS WHAT GUYS TAKE IS JOHNNY IS JOHNNY SET UP THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR IN, THEN HE COMES IN AND TELLS THE NEWSPAPERS IF WE'RE BROKEN, WE CATCH ALL THE FLAG.

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WHAT DID WE PAY THE SCHOOL FOR? ACTUALLY WE GOT TWO.

OH, OKAY.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT, I SAW I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE WHATEVER TO DO SOMETHING FIRST.

IT GOES TO THE FIRST BEFORE, BECAUSE I WAS ONE, I SAID JACK'S THE RIGHT PERSON SOMETHING WE MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY FOR AND HE SHOULD KNOW THAT.

SO I GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THEY, THEY GO DOWN TO THAT BECAUSE BEFORE EVER GOT THIS MIGHT SAY THIS IS A GOOD DEAL.

THIS IS LEGAL, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THEM.

YOU JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT.

THE WE DON'T DOESN'T WORKING ON THAT RESOLUTION DAYS.

IT THE MONEY SOMETHING 15 SOMEBODY, YOU COULD BUY THAT, BUT YOU GOTTA WAIT NEXT.

LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TAKING EVERYBODY ASK.

YEAH.

THIS DID A BIG ONE.

LONG TWO BIG.

THAT WAS THE LITTLE ONE.

THAT WAS A LITTLE BIG ONE I LOOKED AT.

THAT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY THAT WAS LAST WEEK.

CHECK IT BETTER.

RIGHT? IT WELL I'LL TELL YOU, IT DIDN'T INCLUDE, THERE WASN'T ZEROS IN THERE.

NO IT NOT.

WHAT'S YOUR $5? WHAT'S THIS PRO RAT EXPENSIVE.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

PRO RATA EXPENSE FOR HISTORY.

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THAT'S OUR COST OF THAT.

YES.

THE SPACE IN DALLAS.

I DO RAY.

DID HE SAY THAT HE GET THE SHERIFF? NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I DON'T REMEMBER READY TO, UH, YEAH, I INDICATED ONE GUY CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY AND I I CUT MY BUDGET 5% LAST YEAR.

I DON'T WANT CUT THIS YEAR.

I SAID, WELL I'M SORRY WE APPRECIATED WHAT YOU DID LAST.

APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR WAS GONNA BE, YOU GONNA CUT IT THIS YEAR TOO.

AND I SAID, WELL I IT WAS A, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T, HE WOULD CALL ME.

ONE OF MY COUNSEL WANTS A NEW CAR.

I'M NOT SURE YOU UH, I'M GONNA GO FOR E SB HAS HAD THREE ELECTION CYCLES WHERE THEY COULD HAVE WENT OUT AND REQUESTED A OR TWO HALF OF WHAT THE, ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY.

OKAY.

HOW'D THE FIRST ONE GO? SHELTER.

OH, OKAY.

I SEE YOU.

OKAY.

WE'LL THE BILL, MR. LER SAYS OKAY, COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL SECOND IT ALL.

OKAY.

UH, I'VE ALREADY TOLD Y'ALL THE FIRST TWO WEEKS IN AUGUST WE WILL FINALIZE THE BUDGET.

I'D LIKE TO GIVE Y'ALL A MORE CLOSE TIME SCHEDULE ON MONDAY, AUGUST THE SECOND.

UH, WE'VE GOT COMMISSIONER COURT FOR US AND THEN THAT AFTERNOON ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK, GET Y'ALL BACK IN HERE AND WE'LL DO THE, OUR GENERAL PHILOSOPHY OF PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSIONS ON THE BUDGET.

CUT, CUT, CUT.

UH, CUT.

CUT, CUT.

YEAH.

AND WE'LL DO THAT MONDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN START SEEING ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS ON TUESDAY AND DO THAT TUESDAY.

WEDNESDAY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

PART OF THE DAY THURSDAY IF WE NEED TO AND DO WHAT WE CAN TOWARD FINALIZING IT, UH, THE REST THAT FRIDAY AND THEN COME BACK TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.

DOES THAT START AT NINE? NINE 30.

NINE 30.

THAT GIVES Y'ALL TIME TO GET YOU GUYS OUT WHEN WE WORK AND EVERYTHING GIVES ME TIME TO GET MY THREE MILE WALK IN.

I LIFTED WEIGHTS THIS MORNING ANYWAY.

OKAY THEN YOU TRYING TO LIVE A LONG TIME OR SOMETHING? WELL, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE ACCIDENT I COULDN'T LIFT WEIGHTS THE EYE AND IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS SO I STARTED BACK LAST WEEK.

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I'VE LIFT WEIGHT SINCE I WAS 16 YEARS OLD.

SO YEAH, I WAS JUST PART OF IT.

AND I FEEL FUNNY WHEN I DON'T WELL I FEEL FRIDAY WAS WHAT? OH, FRIDAY.

ON FRIDAY.

WELL WE'LL WORK ON UH, DO WHAT WE CAN YOU GONNA SEND A, YOU GONNA SEND THE AGENDA OUT? YEAH.

BUDGET WORK.

RIGHT.

AND UH, YEAH.

ANGIE WANTED ME TO PINPOINT THESE WHERE SHE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET HER LETTERS OUT.

UH, THEN WE'LL COME BACK THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY AND, AND DO COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UH, PROBABLY WE'LL GIVE Y'ALL THE REST OF THE DAY OFF ON THE PLACE.

THEN WE'LL COME BACK ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY AND FRIDAY OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO FINISH IT UP.

HOPEFULLY WE GET THROUGH TUESDAY.

WE WILL KNOW, UH, THE SINGLE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, WILL BE SENDING OUT THEIR INFORMATION ON THE 27TH.

HE TOLD ME FRIDAY THAT HE WAS ALMOST THROUGH WITH COUNTIES.

THINGS GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

UH, HE SAID JUST THE HAIR.

YEAH.

YEAH.

HE SAID JUST A LITTLE BIT.

SO THAT WAS KIND AN IDEA.

YOU CAN PLAN EXPECTATION AROUND IT OR WHATEVER.

UH, Y'ALL NEED TO MEET NEXT WEEK.

WE GOT, ANGIE SAID SHE'S GOT ALREADY A PRETTY GOOD AGENDA.

WOW.

UH, I WON'T BE HERE BUT SENIOR MAN WORK ON YOUR BUDGET.

NO, YOU CAN'T WORK ON MY BUDGET IF I'M NOT HERE.

CHICKEN.

YEAH, Y'ALL HAVE Y YOU GOING HAVE TOO MUCH TO DO THAT DAY.

OF COURSE.

ANYTIME Y'ALL NEED ME.

ANGIE'S GOT ME BY.

WELL MOST OF YOU HAVE CELL PHONE MONDAY, SO.

OKAY, WELL Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD WEEK AND, UH OH, ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY NEEDS TO BRING UP? SO WE LEAVE.

COMMISSIONER LER SAYS HE'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN AND COMMISSIONER CLARK SAYS HE WILL SECOND IT.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

YOU WANT TO GO A JURY? I THINK I WOULD.

ARE YOU GOING ON VACATION BETWEEN, UH.