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UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON, WILL YOU LEAD US AS PRAYER? YEAH, SURE WILL.
THANK YOU FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY.
FATHER, WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH US IN THIS COMMISSION COURT.
BLESS THE GENTLEMAN THAT SAYS ON THIS COURT.
BLESS THE SYSTEM IN OUR DECISION MAKING.
THEN FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WILL LOOK DOWN ON THIS GREAT NATION OF OURS.
BLESSED THE LEADERS OF THIS NATION.
LOOK DOWN ON OUR TROOPS THAT ARE OVERSEAS.
BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEM IN THE ARMS OF PROTECTION.
WE PRAY THAT THEY MAY HAVE A SAFE JOURNEY BACK TO HOME.
ALL THIS WE ASKING IN OUR SON JESUS NAME.
I FLAG THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY OR TAKEN JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
ALL RIGHT, THIS MORNING, UH, MINUTES.
YOU'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO OVERLOOK THOSE.
UH, LOOK OVER THOSE MINUTES IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES, OR ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
UH, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN, OUR TREASURER, TO PRESENT OUR TREASURER QUARTERLY REPORT FOR APRIL.
NOW, THIS MONTH I DO BEFORE MURPHY'S REPORTS TODAY, I DON'T THINK BEFORE.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND.
LET'S SEE, WE'RE, WE CAN CALL THAT $2 MILLION A MONTH, UH, OF GENERAL, BUT THAT SCENARIO RIGHT THERE, GENERAL FUND AMOUNT MONEY SOMETIME 30 SEPTEMBER.
NOW EVERYBODY, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THERE THAT WE CAN SPEAK.
UH, WE'RE NOW OUT IF WE HAVE NO MONEY HERE IN INVESTMENTS.
UM, I THINK THE WORD BEFORE THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THAT'S THE SECOND SAID LAST MONTH.
THIS LOOKS BETTER THAN WHERE LAST YEAR WE WERE, WE SPENT A MILLION MORE OF AGAIN, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE STILL, WE.
BUT WE SPENT MORE OF THIS JUNE, JUNE AND JULY.
YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE TOO, OF WHERE THE MONEY STARTS COMING IN.
YOU SEE, WE DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY UNTIL DECEMBER.
UM, THIS REPORT, I GUESS, WILL BE AT WAYNE'S OFFICE.
ACCEPT THE, UH, WHICH ONE? ACCEPT THE COURT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER, ER A SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES YOU DOING IT FOR YOU'RE ACCEPTING ALL THREE.
YOU'RE ACCEPTING ALL THREE OF THOSE.
THAT MOTION WAS TO ACCEPT ALL THREE REPORTS.
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THANK YOU.UH, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UH, THE TAX COLLECTOR'S REPORT TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR REPORT FOR JUNE.
I SEE NIKKI MUST BE GONNA REPORT THAT TO BRING THAT TO US TODAY.
THE REPORT FOR JUNE, 2010 FOR THE GENERAL FRONT TAXES COLLECTED IS 27.5 MILLION THROUGH JUNE.
ROAD AND BRIDGE TAXES COLLECTED ARE 3.8 MILLION, AND THAT'S 95%.
THAT IS 95% FOR THE, FOR THE CURRENT YEAR TAXES.
ANY QUESTIONS, ANY DISCUSSIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS REPORT FROM THE, UH, TAX ASSESSOR'S OFFICE MOVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY QUESTIONS OF NIKKI? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, THERE IS A, AN ITEM TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING SOME COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, AND THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE COME TO A, UH, IT BOARD MAYBE BEFORE IT CAME TO HERE.
SO IF, UH, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT, WE'LL JUST TABLE THAT UNTIL IT GOES BEFORE THAT IT BOARD.
AND THE SAME THING WITH THE SECOND ITEM.
DISCUSS THOSE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
NO REASON FOR THAT UNTIL THAT GOES BEFORE THAT BOARD COMES TO US.
SO WE'LL TABLE BOTH OF THOSE TWO ITEMS. I MOVE THAT WE TABLE BOTH THOSE ITEMS. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, THE TABLE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DEL.
CONSIDER OR ACCEPTING ANNUAL ROAD RECORD OR A PRECINCT TOO.
A TRIED PEEL A FEW, FEW TREES AS POSSIBLE.
YOU, I LIKE YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT THE OTHER DAY ON JUST LISTING THE ONES THAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO JUST LISTING EVERY ONE OF THEM.
UNLESS THERE'S A CHANGE IN A CULVERT OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA WORK ON THAT IN WORKSHOP OR WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? I WAS GONNA GO OVER AND TRY TO PULL UP, UH, WHAT, BACK IN 2007, I THINK WHENEVER THAT WAS DONE, WHAT THAT FORM ACTUALLY LOOKED LIKE.
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COURT.IF IT IS JUST THAT FRONT PAGE, THEN, THEN WE CAN CUT OUR PAPERWORK DONE.
THE TRANSPORTATION GOES 2 51 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, THAT FRONT PAGE WAS TAKEN RIGHT OUT OF THERE.
UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I, IT'S CRAZY.
WE NEED TO SET UP A WORKSHOP ON THAT WHEN THE JUDGE GETS BACK.
MR. CLARK MAKING THAT MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.
SECONDLY, BY COMMISSIONER LL ARE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
DISCUSS CONTAINER PART-TIME HIRING A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE IN PRECINCT ONE FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO WI, UH, I PUT THAT ON THERE.
WE, WE'VE NORMALLY HAD, UH, ABOUT THREE PART-TIME COLLEGE KIDS THAT WORKED FOR US IN JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.
UH, AND CUT HIM BACK LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
WE CUT THAT DOWN TO ONE AND, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY JUST HIRE HIM FOR, UH, MAYBE AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.
AND I ALSO HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE RETIRED.
SO, UH, IT'S WELL WITHIN MY BUDGET, SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ACCEPT THE HIRING A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE IN PRE PRECEDING ONE FOR TWO MONTHS.
UH, MOTION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LER.
MOTION CARRIES TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER HIRING A REPLACEMENT EMPLOYEE FOR A VACANCY IN A CLERK POSITION IN THE JP TWO OFFICE.
IS ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT? NO, SHE'S NOT.
UH, I TOLD HER I WOULD SPEAK FOR US, EXCEPT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE SHORT YEAH.
SHE CAME HERE, SHE'LL BE, THERE'D BE SHORT TWO PEOPLE OVER THERE THIS MORNING.
UH, IT'S JUST WHERE AN EMPLOYEE HAS, UH, UH, MOVED ON AND THEY NEED TO REPLACE HER.
IT'S JUST A REPLACING, IT'S A, IT'S A REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING POSITION.
COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.
MY COMMISSIONER DE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A MOTION CARRIED, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING STATEWIDE AUTOMATED VICTIM NOTIFICATION SERVICE MAINTENANCE GRANT, THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR THE STATE FISCAL YEAR 2011.
YOU MISSED THE FIRE AND YOU SKIPPED ONE.
TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN ADDITION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER OF 3 19 0 7 TO INCLUDE A DEFINITION OF FIREARMS. AND, UH, IT LOOKED LIKE A GENTLEMAN CAME BEFORE THE COURT AND, UH, WAS ASKING TO BE EXEMPTED FROM DISCHARGING FIREARMS BECAUSE HE WAS USING A MUZZLE LOADER.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS TURNED OVER TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THEN TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING, BUT, UH, I'LL, I'LL JUST READ YOU THE FINDINGS FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT A MUZZLELOADING RIFLE IS, IS, UH, INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION OF NOT BEING ABLE TO DISCHARGE A FIREARM ON LOTS OF 10 ACRES OR UNDER THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SAID, UH, WHEN AN ASSAULTIVE USE IS MADE WITH A WEAPON AS IN AN AGGRAVATED ROBBERY, THE ANTIQUE EXCEPTION FOR POSSESSORY PURPOSES IS OF NO IMPORTANCE.
THE ROBBERY IS EQUALLY AGGRAVATED WHEN A DEADLY WEAPON IS USED RECORDED, REGARDLESS OF ITS DATE OF MANUFACTURE ART, WHETHER IT IS AN ANTIQUE.
UH, AND THEN THEIR OPINION WAS, I THINK THE COUNTY HAS A VALID ARGUMENT THAT THE ORDINANCE IS INTENDED TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS ON SMALLER PROPERTIES.
AND FOR THAT PURPOSE, THE AGE OF THE WEAPON OR ITS STATUS AS AN ANTIQUE IS IRRELEVANT.
SO THAT WAS THE RULING OF OUR, OUR RULE BACK.
OUR ORDER BACK IN 2007 DID NOT HAVE A DEFINITION OF A WEAPON, A FIREARM IN IT.
SO I THINK WE'LL TABLE THIS AND ASK JOHN TO LOOK AT THAT AND TO, UH, WELL, BEFORE YOU TELL YOU WHAT, LET ME, UH, SUGGEST I, I SAW THIS AND, AND I AGREE.
UH, SUE ETH WAS, UH, PRESENTED WITH THIS QUESTION AND I RECEIVED AND LOOKED AT THE EMAILS AND I THINK SHE'S CORRECT.
I, I THINK THE DEFINITION OF FIREARMS THAT SHE CITES IN A PARTICULAR CASE THAT SAYS,
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UH, THE AGE OF THE WEAPON, THAT'S IMPORTANT ONLY FOR PURPOSES OF A PROSECUTION UNDER THAT PROVISION OF THE PENAL CODE.BUT OTHERWISE YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH A, A FIREARM OFFENSE WHEN IT CONCERNS SOMETHING CIVIL OR IN ORDINANCE.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ENFORCE A PENAL CODE PROVISION FOR THAT.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DESCRIBE WHAT A FIREARM IS.
SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING THAT'S ONE YEAR OLDER THAN, UH, IF, IF IT'S FROM 1896, LET'S SAY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET TO KILL SOMEONE OR FIRED OFF WHEN, I MEAN, WE'RE, DO WE SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS ADDS LANGUAGE TO OUR ORDER THEN? OR IS OUR ORDER SUFFICIENT? NO, I THINK THE ORDER'S SUFFICIENT.
I, I THINK THE ORDER'S SUFFICIENT, BUT I THINK THE CLARIFICATION TO COME FROM THIS COURT IS, IS THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT ATTEMPTING TO ENFORCE A PARTICULAR PROVISION OF THE TEXAS PENAL CODE.
AND SO AS SUCH, YOU KNOW, I THINK SO YOU THINK THIS OR IS THAT'S RIGHT.
I I I THINK THIS PERSON MAY, UH, ATTEMPT TO GO TO COURT WITH IT AND SAY, GOSH, IT'S NOT CLEAR ENOUGH, BUT MY GOSH, GOOD LUCK EXPLAINING THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A FIREARM IS.
SO, SO, SO, I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I LOOKED AT THIS AND I AGREED WITH SUE'S ASSESSMENT OF IT.
SO, SO I, I GUESS TO THAT EXTENT, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO REFINE YOUR, UH, DEFINITION OF A FIREARM, BUT JUST, UH, ISSUE AN ORDER THAT, UM, WELL, LET'S SAY HE SAYS COULD BE BETTER SERVED, THAT THE DEFINITION WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE, THUS AVOID ANY MISUNDERSTANDING.
WE CAN GO BACK AND, AND DEFINE FIREARM AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE AGE.
THE PENAL CODE DESCRIBED WHAT, WHAT IT IS.
ANYTHING THAT PROJECTS A, A PROJECTILE THROUGH THE BARREL.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BRAND NEW MUSCLE, MUSCLE LOADERS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ANTIQUE, THEY'RE BRAND NEW ONES.
AND WHATEVER YOU SAY, THIS IS KIND OF, I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR.
WELL, JOHN, DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO, UH, REFINE THIS ORDER OR DO YOU THINK THIS ORDER IS OKAY JUST LIKE IT IS? YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT LOOKED SPECIFICALLY AT THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH.
SO WHEN, UH, SERGEANT WATLEY SAYS TO DEFINE FARMS FOR THE PREVIOUS ORDER, I'LL, I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND OKAY.
AND, AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE, IF ANYTHING.
SO THEN WE'LL JUST TABLE IT TODAY AND, UH, GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT THEN.
UH, PAGE IS COURT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LER AT THE TABLE, THE MOTION ABOUT THE FIREARM.
MOTION, UH, MOTION TO TAKE, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING STATEWIDE AUTOMATED VICTIM NOTIFICATION SERVICE MAINTENANCE GRANT CONTRACT BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL AND KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR THE STATE PHYSICAL YEAR OF 2011.
UM, MAY HAVE THIS INFORMATION ON THIS, IF YOU'VE LOOKED IT OVER, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S JUST A GRANT.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, UH, IT MAY BE A, LIKE A PASS THROUGH GRANT.
AND IF, UH, WE, I I ASSUME WE'RE REIMBURSED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THE GRANT THOUGH.
UH, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THAT'S WHAT IT'S, IT'S JUST A REIMBURSEMENT THING.
ANY, HAVE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT? ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? ABSORBED IT? THAT'S A BOOK TO READ.
UH, I LOOK IT OVER AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A $15,000 CHARGE TO IT, TO THE APPRISED COMPANY.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE, UH, REIMBURSED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
ON A REGULAR BASIS? YEAH, JUST RENEWAL.
IT'S JUST A RENEWAL OF THE ONE WE HAVE BEFORE.
I GUESS IT'S A, IT, I GUESS IT'S AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.
I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT LAST YEAR.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DULLER TO ACCEPT THIS RENEWAL? UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
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ALRIGHT, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE R DASH OH SEVEN SERVICE AGREEMENT.THAT'S THE SECOND PART OF THAT.
SO WE'LL TAKE, I'LL, I'LL NEED ANOTHER MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT SECOND PART.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
OKAY THEN TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING RENEWAL OF THE FY 1112 STATE CASE REGISTRY.
LOCAL COMMISSIONER, LOCAL CUSTOMER SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S FROM SANDRA'S OFFICE.
AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A RENEWAL OF THE TAKE CASE REGISTRY.
SO ANY QUESTIONS? AGAIN, IT'S JUST A RENEWAL.
LIKE THE OTHER, THE OTHER ONE I JUST HAD, AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY FROM SANTA'S OFFICE HERE TO TALK TO THAT, BUT SINCE IT IS A RENEWAL, I SUPPOSE IT JUST TOOK
THERE IS A 2%, LOOKS LIKE A 2% INCREASE IN CONTRACT CHARGES.
ANY QUESTIONS? INCIDENT AND OUT? IS IT NOT HANDLED? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ACCEPT, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT.
I WISH SOMEBODY WAS HERE FROM THE, UH, I WISH SOMEBODY WAS HERE FROM THE DISTRICT OFFICE.
THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER.
UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS.
ALSO HAS TO DO WITH THE COLLECTION OF CHILD SUPPORT.
I THINK THAT'S WHY I DON'T SEE IT DOESN'T COST.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING.
THE AGS OFFICE, I THINK THAT IT'S EXACT SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL REIMBURSES.
THIS OTHER, THIS 15,000 5 64 IS WHAT IT COST.
UH, BUT I, FOR THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION FOR THEM.
MOTION COMMISSIONER CLARK, YOU WANNA WAIT ON, UH, LET'S DO SHE GONNA CALL, SHE CALL DISTRICT CLERK.
BUT IT'S NOT CAL COUNTY REIMBURSEMENT DOLLAR.
I THINK THAT'S TO NOTIFY, UH, VICTIMS OF CRIMES THAT UH, MAYBE IF THEIR PERPETRATOR IS, UH, BEING RELEASED OR AND THAT'S THE OTHER GRANT THAT YOU ALREADY THIS ONE IS WHERE THE AG COLLECTS CHILD SUPPORT FOR THE PEOPLE OF COUNTY.
WHENEVER THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE AG TO COLLECT THEIR CHILD SUPPORT.
THEY'RE PICKING A JURY RIGHT NOW AND AS SOON AS OUR DONE TRY SOMEONE OVER.
DO WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL HE COMES OVER? CAN WE JUST FINISH,
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JUST BYPASS THIS AND JUST DO THE, ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA HOLD OFF ON, YEAH, IT'S, WE JUST NEED TO DO THE MAIN ITEM TRANSFERS.ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE? YES.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST BYPASS THAT.
UH, WE AND WHEN SHE GETS OVER THAT, SHE CAN ENLIGHTEN US.
WHAT ABOUT, UH, LIGHT ITEM TRANSFER OUT? YES SIR.
WE BOTH LINE ITEM TRANSFER IN THE GENERAL AREA, MOVING 55,000 FROM WORKERS' COMP COST TO PROPERTY LIABILITY INSURANCE COSTS.
UH, THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO AN APPRAISAL THAT WE'VE HAD DONE AND IT DID INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS, BUT, AND IT HAS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WORKERS' COMP THAT WE, UH, DIDN'T NEED.
IN THE, UH, MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS AREA, INCREASED SUPPLIES 3,500 WITH EQUIPMENT REPAIRS.
COMPUTER AREA MOVED 4,000 FROM INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOFTWARE GROUP JUST TO COVER SOME MAINTENANCE COSTS.
ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT TWO INCREASED MARKS AND REPAIRS.
10,000 ANNUAL 2000 FROM ROAD MATERIALS.
AND THEN IN ADULT PROBATION WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT DO NOT AFFECT COUNTY MONEY.
UH, BUT THEY HAVE A BUDGET REDUCTION DUE TO STATE, STATE BUDGET REDUCTION.
YOU'VE HEARD THE LOT ITEM TRANSFERS.
THEY'LL BE ON, UH, THE JUDGE'S DESKS.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME LOOK AT ANY, I'D SAY WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THOSE ZONING.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
THERE'S SHE, I TRIED TO GET WITHOUT THE STATE CASE REGISTRY.
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MM-HMMIT'S JUST A, THERE'S NO COST TO ANYBODY OR ANYTHING BY THAT.
IS THIS JUST AN ANNUAL RENEWAL? YES.
WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THESE TWO? I CONFUSED.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS ISN'T HERS.
HERS IS THE CHILD SUPPORT COLLECTION.
I WONDER, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
DO DO WITH THE VIOLENCE CONTRACT.
AND IT'S JUST CHILD SUPPORT COLLECTION BY AG.
RIGHT JIM? I MAY GOT, I MAY HAVE GOTTEN AHEAD OF EVERYBODY.
YEAH, SHE'S JUST HERE TO ADDRESS THIS ONE.
SEE WE GET 66, 66 AND TWO THIRDS PERCENT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
THAT'S OUR INSURED FEES, THAT'S FILING SUITS, UM, CHANGING AN ADDRESS ON A CHILD SUPPORT CASE, A MODIFICATION.
AND WE BILL THEM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL IN THE COMPUTER AND EVERYTHING.
WE'RE TIED DIRECTLY WITH THEM.
CHILD DISBURSEMENT UNIT WE'RE TIED DIRECTLY IN WITH THEM AND UH, THEY SEND US A CHECK EVERY MONTH FOR, IT RANGES EVERYWHERE FROM THREE TO 5,009.
UM, A LOT OF CLERKS DON'T GO TO THE TROUBLE TO DO IT, THEY JUST DO IT FREE BECAUSE IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TROUBLE TIME, TIME CONSUMING.
BUT, UH, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT EVER SINCE I STARTED IT.
AND UM, THIS IS JUST AN ANNUAL, UH, CONTRACT THAT WE DO EACH YEAR AND, UH, IT HAS TO HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY JUDGE.
UH, AND I SEE BOTH OF THEM IN AND I'LL SEND ME ONE BACK, BUT THAT'S JUST SO THAT WE CAN, UH, GET PAID FOR THE WORK THAT WE DO FOR IT.
YOU SAID THE COUNTY GETS LIKE SIX.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, THAT RENEWAL OF THE STATE CASE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.
OKAY, THEN WE GOT TRANSFER OF THE STUFF ABOUT, BUT AS FAR AS RADIO, I THINK WE COULD HEAR THAT.
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REALLY WE DON'T.THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE COULD, YOU COULD PUT ON THE NO, YOUR ROADS NOT UP.
SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE BOTH THIS TIME.
SO AS FAR AS PURCHASING THAT HARDWARE, THAT WHAT ROAD YOU LIVE IN, PLACES EXISTING SHERIFF'S POSITION IS.
IF WE HAD A PC ON A DESKTOP, WOULD WE ALSO, WE'D LIKE THAT PURCHASE OF THE HARDWARE NEED TO GO TO OUT BID ALSO, THAT'S NOT MY ISSUE.
THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP IS WE HAVE A, IS THAT STUFF THAT CAN'T BE USED? OH, THAT'S ALL DIFFERENT.
THAT'S NOT, I WHAT'S IT? USE GLOVES ON YOUR HARDWARE ON THAT FIRST LINE.
OCEAN WIRELESS SURFERS AND PRETTY GOOD CURRENTLY.
IT MAY PROBABLY UP IT'S ALREADY, BUT HOW ABOUT I DON'T THINK 12 SAND TWO MILES A ROAD IF HE MIXES.
BUT THE WAY I USE IT, IT'S 13,500 A MILE FOR THE MATERIAL.
FIVE IS THIS, UH, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY ON THIS THING.
BUT THIS IS JUST HARDWARE TO MAKE.
THE THING WE WEREN'T GONNA SPEND ANY MONEY ON, YOU'RE THINKING THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THIS.
THIS IS, UNLESS HE'S TALKING OIL, SAND OR PATCH YET.
BUT I DOUBT WHY WOULD HE SPEND 45,000 ON THIS? THIS IS TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE TOWER.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOWER.
NOTHING TO DO WITH IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T, THE INFORMATION THAT COMES IN ON THE TOWER, NOTHING TO NO, THAT'S THIS SERVER GONNA REPLACE WHAT THAT SERVER DOES.
THE APPRAISAL THINGS WE LOOK AT OUT THE INTERNET.
THIS IS JUST REPLACEMENT OF THE HARDWARE.
NOT ANY OF THE HARDWARE THAT WAS ON THE TOWER.
THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S ANOTHER PILE OF PIG
AND THIS IS JUST A REPLACEMENT OF
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EXISTING.THAT'S IF THE PC FAILED ON YOUR DESKTOP AND WE PUT IT MR, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S EXPENSIVE.
SO JACK BROUGHT IT, WANT TO CLARIFY? AL HAD NO AGENDA.
WELL IT'S BEEN TABLED AT US TODAY, SO I GUESS IF WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT BACK ON THERE, THEN GET THAT PUT BACK ON WITH ANGIE TODAY AND GET BACK.
WE, SO THE FIRST TIME WE'LL JUST PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
NOT SEE, BUT THIS JUST SAYS PRECINCT ONE PRECINCT.
WHAT'S OBVIOUS INVOLVE THAN, YOU KNOW, HERE'S NOW OTHER THING INVOLVES A BUDGET BOXES, BUT THAT'S AGAIN REPLACING EXISTING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EXCLUSIVELY.
IS THAT, IS IS LET'S TALK ABOUT ONE THING AT A TIME.
I DON'T, I DUNNO WHERE THIS PLACE DISCUSSION.
LESS THAN FOUR, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN VOTED 15 MINUTES.
THIS IS JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PERSONALLY WE DISCUSS, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT.
IS THAT ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I WOULD LIKE ANYTHING WOULD COST DOLLARS BETTER.
I WE BIDS DISCUSS THIS INITIAL REQUEST WE TALK ABOUT BELOW GET, BECAUSE I DIDN'T, THAT'S NOT THE WAY I SUBMITTED.
WHAT YOU SAID IS, THERE'S BEEN A FEW TIMES I CALLED, BUT EVEN IF I,
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YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE OR SOMETHING YOUNG.HOW FAMILIAR ARE YOU WITH QUANTUM AT OPINION OFF? I KNOW WHAT QUANTUM ERROR.
IT'S, IT'S RECOVERING WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT AND FOR THE GOODS OR SERVICES FOR HIGH.
MY UNDERSTANDING OF QUANTUM IS, IS THE, THE, UH, DONE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T GO THE PROCESS.
JOSH, CAN WE DISCUSS SOMETHING TABLE AND NOW WE'RE TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN.
IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S BEEN POSTED ALREADY.
I THINK YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND OPEN SESSION AND ANNOUNCE THAT WE'RE STILL OPEN.
WELL THEN IF THAT'S TRUE, LET'S DO THE FIRST ONE TOO.
FIRST ONE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS CAN WE TAKE, CAN WE TAKE ACTION ON IT THEN IF WE TABLE SOMETHING, IF WE GO BACK AND DECIDE, I WOULD SAY THAT DONE BEFORE.
USUALLY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK BUT STATE, I HADN'T CONFRONTED THAT BEFORE, BUT, UM, I MEAN YOU MIGHT REOPEN THAT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO NECESSARILY DECIDE.
I, I DON'T DUNNO WHAT IT'S THAT YOU'RE, YEAH, WELL IS THAT THE TWO ITEMS? IF WE, WE TAKE WE TABLE FOR THE REASON WE ACTUALLY, THE SECOND ONE BY MISTAKE, I MEAN THE SECOND ONE BY MISTAKE.
WELL, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PERSON.
I THOUGHT THE PERSON WAS A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE ALSO.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT IS TECHNOLOGY.
BUT WE'RE WE'RE REPLACING TWO THINGS THAT EXIST.
THAT HADN'T BEEN A NEW PROCUREMENT TIME CRITICAL THING.
I MEAN IT COULD BE TAKEN CARE OF NEXT WEEK.
I JUST, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT BECAUSE JACK JACK'S GOT SOME PROBLEMS WITH THIS, UH, PAIN STUFF AND HAL'S GOT SOME PROBLEM.
LET'S PUT IT ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA.
NOT, I DON'T HAVE TO PUT, LET'S NOT DISCUSS IT UNTIL, WELL INITIALLY I SPEAK HAL.
INITIALLY I'D ASK CAL 'CAUSE I WAS PUTTING IT ON THERE, UH, ADDITIONALLY FOR, FOR ANOTHER OVER 15.
THEN I FOUND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
I HAD ASK CAL TRANSFER NORMALLY HE DIDN'T PUT A SEPARATE LINE TRANSFER SEPARATE.
WHEN I TOOK MINE OFF, COW TOOK HIS OFF.
SO SHE PUT IT, I DUNNO THE HELL WANTS THAT ON THERE, BUT CAN YOU JUST GET WITH HER AND PUT IT ON THERE NEXT WEEK? LIKE YOU WANT IT TO BE ON THERE? DON DID.
I I I'LL NOT PUT ON THE, OKAY.
YEAH, NOW I I THINK IT WAS, I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH TELLING ME THAT THAT, UH OH, OKAY.
SO YOU'RE JUST GOING PEOPLE, YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING GIVE A PO FOR THAT WORK LIKE THAT? I CAN'T, I CAN'T.
WELL THEN THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL HAVE TO WORK OUT WITH A'S HAPPEN.
MY GUESS IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, A BILL BASED ON OF MERIT I KNOW ABOUT IT.
DOCUMENT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT, THAT THE VENDOR COULD BE PAID IS THES THE COUNTY.
THE ONLY WAY HE WOULD BE PAID IS TO SUES THE COUNTY AND DON'T GET THE JUDGE, JUDGE INVOLVED IN IT.
NOW, COL COUNTY, IN THE PAST A LETTER
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HAD THE SAME PROBLEM IN PAST SOMEBODY GET PAID, YOU KNOW? YEAH.YOU REMEMBER THE HAD SAME INDIVIDUAL HAD, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO DO SOME RESEARCH WHERE THE COUNTY DONE SOMETHING THIS OPENED.
UH, WELL IS THERE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU ALL CAN DO TO, UH, GET THE COURT TO OKAY.
OR NOT, NOT WHAT HE, IF HE, HE DON'T, OKAY.
I GUESS ALLEN AND I, JOHN, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN WORK.
BUT THE OTHER PROBLEM, WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GOING FOR THAT UNTIL WE GET AN OPINION HERE.
LET'S NOT, LET'S NOT WITH GEORGE'S PROBLEM.
I THINK WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT.
COMMISSIONER, JUST AS A HOUSEKEEPING MATTER, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT UM, WHEN YOU CONCLUDE THIS, YOU NOTE THAT, UH, THAT YOU HAD TABLED THE TWO MATTERS AND THAT THERE WAS NOT A DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE ALL I'VE HEARD, UH, ANYONE SAY HERE, COMMISSIONERS IS JUST, WE'LL CONSIDER THAT NEXT WEEK OR IN DUE TIME.
SO, SO FOR Y'ALL SAKE OF, OF KEEPING THE RECORD STRAIGHT THAT YOU DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKE SOME DECISION BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE NONE OF Y'ALL HAVE MADE ANY DECISION OF REALLY EVEN ENGAGED IN ANY DISCUSSION.
YOU, YOU, THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE AND YOU HAVE.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMISSIONERS AND YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, WELL YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING.
YOU, YOU'RE NO, TRULY YOU'RE NO OFFENSE, BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING.
YOU'RE JUST LISTENING TO JACK TALK, BUT YOU'RE NOT DISCUSSING OR DEBATING SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN.
SORRY, YOU GOT THROWN IN THERE WITH I THOUGHT THEY WERE BOTH TOGETHER.
UM, I, I DON'T MEAN TO ASK YOU ALL I CAN SEE TODAY PURPOSE AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISION ON IT.
SO, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BRING IT BACK.
EITHER ONE OF YOU ON THE AGENDA.
I LIKE TO SEE SOME WAY IT COULD BE WORKED OUT SOMEBODY RADIO SINCE, SINCE WE'RE REPLACING, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
NO, IF WE, IF WE ENTERTAIN NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE COUNTY AND DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK THE INTENT WAS EVER TO, UM, WHILE IT IS A MAJOR PURCHASE OR REPLACING EXISTING HARDWARE, I DON'T THINK IT WAS EVER, OKAY.
MY INTENT ON THIS WAS JUST THE FACT IT WAS OVER 50,000.
AND IF YOU TELL THEM THAT IT'S NOT, THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER, COULD THEY BRING IT BEFORE THE COURT BEFORE IT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S A TOWER BEFORE SOMEONE HAS TO SUE THE COUNTY.
WE'RE TALKING DIFFERENT THINGS.
MY DEAL DONE AGENDA THAT'S DONE.
THEY DON'T THEY UNLESS HE TELLS YOU I CAN'T SOMEHOW IT'S ALL EXCEPTION.
UH, WELL RIGHT NOW I'LL CALL MORE ABOUT THAT.
I'LL KEEP A COURT BY AS TO WHAT GOES ON.
RIGHT NOW GEORGE, WE'LL PUT YOURS BACK ON THE ASK ANGIE TO PUT THAT BACK ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK.
AND IF THIS OTHER ONE WANTS TO GET BACK ON THE AGENDA, YOU ALL WILL HAVE TO DO IT.
SO, AND GEORGE IS BECAUSE IT'S 15,000, THAT'S THE REASON'S ALL CONTRACT, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES IS US, RIGHT? YES.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS UP TO 50,000 NOW.
BUT WE, WE PASSED THE REVOLUTION COURT.
THE COURT WOULD WANT ANYTHING OVER 55.
YOU, WE DON'T WANNA SPEND THE MONTH THIS TIME.
I'D SAY YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
OKAY, YOURS BACK ON NEXT WEEK.
WE NEED TO LET THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT KNOW SO THEY KNOW HOW TO PROCEED.
DO WHAT SHOULD WE LET THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE KNOW SO WE KNOW HOW TO PROCEED? WELL SOMEBODY, I WOULD THINK SOMEBODY SHUT WORK IT OUT, BUT JACKING OUT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEXT STEP.
BUT UNLESS TALKING YEAH, FOR TODAY THEY
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NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PROCEED.OH, WHAT, WHAT TO DO FOR TWO? THE TOWER.
HOWEVER, I'M NERVOUS WITH ALL THIS TALK GOING.
YEAH, LET'S DO AWAY WITH THAT.
I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION THERE.
THOSE TWO THINGS WERE THE SAME ITEMS. YES I DO.
UH, WHERE ARE WE NOW WE GONNA TO DO IT HERE IN CASE.
IS THERE SOME WAY I CAN DO THIS WITHOUT SOMEONE HAVING SUE? WELL, WHO? NO, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT MYSELF.
WHO IS WHAT OUT LATER THEY'RE JUST SAYING HEY, WE'RE JUST GONNA DO IT.
THAT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM RIGHT.
YOU DO THIS, YOU'LL BE DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING WE SAID.
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I WOULD LIKE TO, IS IT JUST YOU BELIEVE THAT? SEE LONG NOT REPLACEMENT.THE ISSUE IS YOU'RE SPENDING 15,000.
LAST YEAR WE SPENT MORE THAN WE TOOK IN.
THAT'S USUALLY NOT GOOD AT MY HOUSE.
MY WIFE THINKS WE CAN ONLY SPEND ABOUT A MILLION MORE MILLION.
IS YOUR BE ABOUT THE SAME OR WORSE OR WORSE? YOU THINK HE'S SAYING HERE THAT IF WE TAKE IN THE SAME AMOUNT, BASICALLY THE SAME AMOUNT.
I JUST DIDN'T GET THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I JUST BE SURE I GET IT.
WEDNESDAY 1230, THE 21ST AND SIX WEDNESDAY MORNING.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE SITTING HERE AND OPEN SESSION MAKING TEE TIMES.
WHAT THIS IS GOING, THE QUESTION I GO PLAY.
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GETS IN THE NEWS AND LOT MORE FOR GOLF THAN FOOTBALL.BILLY JOE KNOW, UH, TOMMY MANNY NEXT COMMISSIONER TOOK HER OUT THERE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND GOT HER ALL SIGNED UP.
THERE BE SOME GUY LIKE ME WAITING OUT IN THE WING TO LOOK FOR IT.
YOU FIND THOSE LITTLE COUNTRY GIRLS, YOU KNOW? OH YEAH.
YOU COULD MAKE THEM BELIEVE ANYTHING.
SHE HAD NO IDEA I WAS A NOBEL PRIZE WINNER.
AND THERE SHE WAS FROM SEA GRAVES AND UH, SHE SAID WE NEED TO GO DOWN AND MEET MY PARENTS.
SO WE'RE GOING DOWN THERE ON A MOTORCYCLE.
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16 DEGREES ON THE STILL GONNA DO THAT CHOP 25,000 PLUS PLUS THAT HARDWARE.SO YOU PROBABLY CHOP ABOUT 45,000 YARD FINISHED.
YEAH, THAT'S TI YOU KNOW THAT THING DOES, WE'RE WE'RE DOING FOUR, FIVE A DAY.
WE GETTING READY TO CHIP TOMORROW.
THEY FINALLY, THEY BRING OUR, WE GOT, BUT AT LEAST IF WE KNEW BUDGET AND ONE WE'RE DOING THAT, A LITTLE WOODEN BRIDGE ON IT.
SO WE HAD TO BACK DOWN, BE IN MY LIST OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.
IT DOES, DOESN'T THAT GET YOU IN TROUBLE IN DALLAS, YOU SAY, AND MAYBE THEY'LL GET BACK.
I'M GOING GET, YOU SEE MY GUY JUST TEAR UP BACK.
HE GET SERIOUS ABOUT IT PERSON.
SHE THE GIRL THAT'S RUNNING AGAINST, THAT'S ALL OF I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS.
MR. GOVERNOR, MAKE THAT MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER JACKSON? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
COMMISSIONER DE MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
COMMISSIONER, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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YEAH, THAT'S MY FAULT.