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YES, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE CLOUD AND FATHER, WE'LL STILL ASK THAT YOU ADDRESS US WITH SOME RAIN.

NOW, FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN ON THIS COURT, LOOK DOWN ON THE MEMBERS THAT SETS ON THIS COURT.

BLESS US IN OUR DECISION MAKING THAT BEING MADE HERE TODAY.

THEN FATHER LOOKED DOWN UPON MY TRUTH THAT WERE OVERSEAS, BLESS THEM, THAT THEY MAY HAVE A SAFE JOURNEY BACK HOME.

ALL THIS WE ASK IN MY SON, IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

FLAG, FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION OF GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL HONOR, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE NAME.

THIS Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES FOR LAST MEETING.

ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS FOR IF THERE ARE NONE, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROBBINS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

SO, UH, INFORMATION FROM UH, T-C-P-Q-A LETTER FROM TCEQ SAYS, DEAR JUDGE JEN, THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUING PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN COFFEE COUNTY AND THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES DRIVE CLEAN MACHINE PROGRAM.

YOUR ASSISTANCE IN IMPLEMENTING IMPLEMENTING THIS CLEAN AIR STRATEGY IS VITAL TO ITS SUCCESS.

THE FUNDING ALLOCATION FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR FISCAL YEAR 11 WILL BE $293,800.

ALLOCATIONS HAVE BEEN DETERMINED BASED ON FUNDS GENERATED FROM SAFETY AND ADMISSION.

CERTIFICATES ISSUED IN YOUR COUNTY FISCAL 11 FUNDS FOR THIS PROGRAM BE SENT TO EACH PARTICIPATING COUNTY IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.

WE ASK THAT YOUR ASSISTANCE IN MAKING THESE FUNDS IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE TO THE LOCAL PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR.

SO THAT'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT, UH, CLEAN AIR PROGRAM WITH, UH, UH, OF COURSE THIS PROGRAM IS ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND THE CHECK GOES ACTUALLY TO THEM AFTER US, BUT THAT'S THE ALLOCATION THAT THEY HAVE FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

UH, I'LL WAIT FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

OKAY, THAT'S IT FOR ROUTINE.

UH, FIRST ONE UP THIS MORNING, THE VICTIM IS JOHNNY COUNTRY ON COUNTY TREASURER AND JOHNNY'S GONNA PRESENT THE TREASURER JULY.

JUDGE, I DID THESE SMALLER SHEETS.

I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHAT WE SPEND LAST, LAST FIVE MONTHS.

THE, UH, JUROR FUND ITSELF WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE PRETTY WELL DOWN TO ZERO BY NEXT TWO TO FOUR WEEKS.

WE HAVE MONEY.

LET'S SEE, IN THAT LETTER WE DID LAST YEAR, IS BILL VALID? NO, IT'S NOT.

IF IT WERE, COMMISSIONER WOULD HAVE TO BAIL A FEE ON IT.

FEE ON IT.

YEAH.

SO

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IT CAN, IT COULD TURN IT JUST A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, A WEEK OR SO.

OKAY, WE'LL, WHATEVER.

A COUPLE WEEKS TO SEE EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE NEED TO BE GO AFTER IF WE'RE GOING TO HALL.

I STARTED SAYING WE NEED TO WAIT TILL WE KNOW FOR SURE.

TWO FOR SURE.

WE LAST YEAR, UH, P BUT I'M NOT SURE IF YOU PROBABLY WE DON'T TAKE VERY LONG.

GET IT APPROVED.

WE CAN, BUT WE CAN'T GET THROUGH HERE FIRST.

YEAH.

UM, IN THAT LIGHT, AND I JUST, IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, UH, MR. BAILEY BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND FOR THE FUTURE, WE'RE EITHER GONNA HAVE, IN MY OPINION'S, MY OPINION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REINSTATE THE DISCOUNT FOR PAYING TAXES EARLY OR CHANGE THE FISCAL DATE TO A CALENDAR YEAR.

UH, IT'S, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY COMING IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

WE'VE TALKED WITH, UH, MR. MURPHY SEVERAL TIMES AND HE CAN SHOW YOU ALL STATS THAT SAYS THAT, THAT DO GET GOOD.

I'VE NOT SEEN HOW NUMBERS, NO.

THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME REASON WHY WE USED TO GET TAX MONEY IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER.

YEAH.

BECAUSE OF THE DISCOUNTS.

I MEAN, I ASSUME PEOPLE PAID THE, BECAUSE OF THE DISCOUNT.

THEY, BUT IT COULD BE MAYBE EVERYBODY'S HOLDING ON VERY LAST MINUTE NOW.

WELL, THERE'S NO REASON TO PAY IT.

THERE'S NO INCENTIVE TO PAY IT.

THAT'S TRUE.

AND DECEMBER, IF YOU ITEMIZE.

YEAH.

SO SOMETHING, UH, FOR THE FUTURE TO THINK ABOUT.

OKAY.

YOU'LL SEE THE REPORT TODAY.

I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT.

COURT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON ALL A OKAY.

BAD CHOICE.

JUST THREE SIGNATURES.

3, 3, 3 AND THREE.

OKAY.

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WATCH THE THREE COPIES, MAYBE THREE COPIES.

JOHNNY GETS ONE, ONE GOES WITH THE MINUTES AND WE KEEP ONE IN OUR OFFICE AND THEN THAT OTHER JUST EXTRA JUST IN CASE I NEED, YEAH, THEY MILITARY HAVE YOU MILITARY WITH NUMBER ONLY UNDERSTANDS ANYTHING IN THREE COPIES.

ONE GOES WITH A MIX, ONE STAYS IN OUR OFFICE AND ONE GOES BACK WITH JOHN.

OKAY.

PASS THAT MOTION.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS MR. LARRY YING, OUR COUNTY FARM MARSHALL GONNA DISCUSS THE COUNTYWIDE BURN BAN.

HOW MUCH RAIN DID YOU GET AT YOUR HOUSE OVER THE WEEKEND? , I WAS WONDER YOU TALKING TO YOU OUT THERE? GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

UH, AS Y'ALL REMEMBER, WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT FOR A 30 DAY PERIOD.

WE CAN MAKE IT EXPIRE ON ABOUT THE SEVENTH OR EIGHTH I THINK OF SEPTEMBER.

WE WON'T BE HERE FOR THE LABOR DAY MONDAY.

SO I NEED TO TRY TO GET WITH Y'ALL AND SEE HOW WE COULD, UH, WORK THIS.

I'D LIKE TO EXTEND IT AT LEAST THROUGH THE ENTIRE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

WE'VE HAD NO SIGNIFICANT RAIN BALL.

UH, THE DROUGHT INDEX LEVELS ARE STILL BETWEEN SIX AND 700 PREDICTOR TO BE 7 814 DAYS.

SO I THINK UNTIL THE WEATHER TURNS ON US IN THE FALL, WE MAY HAVE TO DO THIS FOR NEXT MONTH MAYBE, OR PART OF THE FOLLOWING MONTH.

BUT I'D LIKE TO GET IT EXTENDED TO HOWEVER WE NEED TO WORD IT.

SO WE INCLUDE THE ENTIRE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AND I'LL GET ON THAT LAST MONDAY AGENDA OF SEPTEMBER TO UPDATE YOU.

OKAY.

NO, WE JUST WORDED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXTEND THE BURN BAN THROUGH THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER SAYING BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

UH, YES.

DISCUSSION? YES SIR.

UH, IF WE GET 10 TO 15 INCHES RAIN NEXT WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CAN WE CANCEL THIS? THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT IS IF I GET ON THE AGENDA EVERY MONDAY AND THEN WE JUST REVIEW IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO IT ON MONDAY.

AND I DON'T MIND THROUGH ANGIE'S HELP, YOU KNOW, BEING ON IT, IT JUST MAY NOT BE HERE THAT DAY.

AND SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DO IT, BUT WE'LL BE GLAD TO SET IT UP THAT WAY JUST IN CASE.

I THINK THAT'S JUST IN, AND IF IT BAD AS IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW, I JUST LET ONE Y'ALL ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH, WE GOT ABOUT THREE OF THOSE HURRICANES IN PLUS, UH, WEDNESDAY'S OPENING DAY OF RAIN BEFORE.

SO PROBABLY ON RAIN WHEREVER ONE OF Y'ALL ARE GOING.

GO RIGHT AROUND JONES.

EVERYBODY COME , PLEASE.

PLEASE.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU LARRY.

UH, NEXT UP MARILYN MAY AND MARILYN'S GONNA DISCUSS, UH, THE REPORT ON STATUS GRANT APPLICATION AND REPORT ON RECYCLING PLANTS STATISTICS FOR THIS LAST YEAR.

I HAVE A PICTURE OF THE BRAND NEW TRUCK.

WE SHOWED IT OFF LAST WEEK.

THIS IS THE TRUCK YOU'VE GOT THROUGH THE GRANT, HUH? YES.

MM-HMM .

GOOD JOB.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR SEEING ME THIS MORNING.

WANTED TO JUST GO OVER SOME QUICK THINGS.

UM, THE ILLEGAL DUMPING EDUCATION AND AWARENESS SCREEN IS STILL GOING ON AND I'VE JUST, UH, BROUGHT A PICTURE OF THE TRUCK SO THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, SEE THAT IT'S A HUGE BIG, IT LOOKS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

UM, WE WERE AT A NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COG STOP LEGAL DUMPING ROUND TABLE LAST WEEK, AND, UH, THE GUYS WERE THERE WITH THE TRUCK AND SO THEY MADE US BRING THE TRUCK OUT AND ALL THE CITIES AND COUNTIES CAME OUT AND JUST EVERETT, IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY WELL ACCEPTED AND THE COG IS REAL PROUD OF IT TOO.

UM, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY GOVERNMENTAL AND BUSINESS RECYCLING GRANT THAT I PUT IN FOR, WE'VE RECEIVED, AND THAT IS $120,054 THAT WE'RE GONNA BE STARTING SEPTEMBER 1ST, AND THAT WILL ALSO GO THROUGH JUNE.

SO WE'LL BE, UH, REALLY BUSY WITH, WITH GRANTS, UH, THIS FALL AND

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THE SPRING.

AND WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET A NEW BALER AND ELECTRIC FORK, UH, TRUCK, UH, PORTABLE DOCK.

SO WE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOAD MORE.

WE ARE UP TO, UM, BAILING ABOUT SEVEN BALES OF, UH, CARDBOARD A WEEK.

AND SO THAT'S, LET'S SEE, 3,500 SOMETHING POUNDS, UH, OF CARDBOARD.

AND THEN ABOUT, I THINK HE TOLD ME ABOUT SEVEN BALES OF WHITE AND SHREDDED PAPER.

SO THAT'S QUITE A BIT.

OUR GUYS ARE WORKING ON THE BAILERS.

WE HAVE TWO BAILERS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE.

UM, I WANT TO START WORKING WITH THE, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, UM, AND WORK WITH SHERIFF BURNS ABOUT TRYING TO GET MORE, CAPTURE, MORE MATERIAL OUT OF THE FACILITY BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY JUST DOING THE PAPER AND THE CARDBOARD.

SO, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO COME INTO SOME OF THE COUNTY BUILDINGS AND DO SOME AUDITS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE TRASH MM-HMM .

AND BE ABLE TO DO THE RECYCLING.

UM, LAST YEAR AND THESE NUMBERS I HAD TO GET FOR, FOR COG.

SO FROM AUGUST OF 2009 TO JULY OF 2010, AND THIS IS JUST OUR PICKUP WHERE WE ACTUALLY GO AROUND AND PICK UP OUR BUSINESS RECYCLING PROGRAM.

UM, WE CAPTURED 6,800, UM, 684,593 PENS OF PAPER AND CARDBOARD.

AND, UM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE, UM, 6,631.

SO I WANNA TRY TO INCREASE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW INTERNALLY IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE JUST NOT CAPTURING AS MUCH, BUT I THINK IF WE DO AN AUDIT AND START WORKING WITH THEM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO INCREASE THOSE NUMBERS.

UM, JUST KIND OF A QUICK REPORT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR, APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UH, JUST WORKING ON THOSE GRANTS, WE REALLY NO, I JUST KEEP TRYING TO DO MORE AND MORE ANYWAY, APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS EVER COME IN.

MM-HMM.

UM, LY WAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE SMALL MAINTENANCE ON HER VEHICLE, CHANGE THE OIL, STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT SINCE THEN, SO I THE OTHER DAY, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE MECHANICAL.

THEY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE ON VEHICLE.

YEAH.

SO I GUESS WE NEED TO, IS THERE BARN? BRING OUR BARN? WE CAN DO WELL LEAST UNTIL I GET ANOTHER MECHANIC.

YEAH.

I, I WENT AHEAD AND TOOK CARE OF IT THIS TIME, BUT, UM, YEAH, IF JUST BRING IT OVER.

THANK YOU.

TAKE THAT.

WELL, WE, WE DID TAKE CARE OF IT FRIDAY.

WE WENT AHEAD AND, UM, I FOUND A, A DEAL AND SO WENT AND GOT THE OIL CHANGED, BUT IT, IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOUR TRUCK AND SO I WAS JUST, I WAS HOPING THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THOSE THINGS DONE.

SO ANYWAY, UM, WELL, YOU MIGHT CHECK WITH COMMISSIONER ROUND THEN WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WHEN WE NEEDED, UNTIL COMMISSIONER JACKSON GETS HIS PERSONNEL BACK OVER THERE AND THAT'S FINE.

WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND TOOK CARE OF IT.

IT WASN'T THAT EXPENSIVE, SO THANK YOU.

ONE MORE THING MM-HMM.

ON THE, UH, GROUND, THE CHIP, THE CHIP OF THE TREES.

DID YOU, YOU STILL LOOKING AT THAT? WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T, UH, PURSUE THAT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

AND THE REASON BEING, WHEN I CALLED AROUND, EVERYONE HAD A, A CHIPPER EXCEPT FOR PRECINCT THREE.

SO, UM, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THAT AT THE TIME, AND WE WERE REALLY SHORT ON TIME TO, TO PREPARE FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, I CAN PUT THAT IN FOR THE NEXT GRANT CYCLE IF WE NEED TO DO THAT.

THERE, THERE MIGHT BE A NEED.

I MEAN, IF WE COULD SHARE WITH, EVEN WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL AND YOU, UH, WE COULD PROBABLY, THEY REALLY LOOK FONDLY AT WHEN PEOPLE ARE PARTNERING TOGETHER.

UM, THERE'S ANOTHER, SINCE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING TO LOOK OUT AT, UH, BUT COUNT COUNTY OF HUNT HAS CALLED ME AND ASKED ME IF WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A TIRE SHREDDER AND WHETHER THEIR, UH, COUNTY AND OUR COUNTY COULD SHARE THAT AND SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY, I GUESS, OF SHREDDING.

AND I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR, UH, INMATES TO, TO DO THAT WORK.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NEXT GRANT CYCLE IS PROBABLY ABOUT

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MAY.

SO WE JUST NEED TO, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S INVOLVED.

YOU, YOU SHREDDED TIRES THAT ON THE ROAD HAD BUNCH SHREDDED RUBBER.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT, DO THAT.

NO.

LEGAL TO, YEAH, SO BASICALLY I'VE NOT EVER SAT DOWN AND PUT DOWN THE NUMBERS OF HOW MUCH Y'ALL WERE SPENDING ON THOSE TIRE TRUCKS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST.

WE PAY ABOUT $1,100 FOR EACH TRUCKLOAD.

RYAN, YOU SEND IT OUT EVERY COUPLE MONTHS.

A QUARTERLY.

QUARTERLY.

MM-HMM.

OKAY.

SO, UM, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

RIGHT? I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU RUN THINGS.

SO IT WOULD BE, IF THERE'S AN INTEREST THEN YOU NEED TO LET ME KNOW.

WITH THE TIRE SHREDDER, WE CAN JUST PUT 'EM IN THE, IN THE TRASH THEN, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IF YOU CUT 'EM UP, YOU CAN JUST PUT 'EM IN A REGULAR HEARD YOUR TRASH BIN.

WELL, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN IF IT'S A FEW , BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A FEW.

NO, I DON'T HAVE, SO YEAH, SO THAT, I JUST LISTENED TO, UH, CYNTHIA HOR AND SHE WAS, SHE'S THE KIND OF THE SPECIALIST WITH TCQI AT THAT MEETING LAST WEEK.

SHE DID SAY IF HE HAD A FEW, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE HERE.

SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

I JUST KNOW THAT I CAN START LOOKING INTO IT IF YOU WANT ME TO.

DOES A CERTAIN COMMISSIONER THAT HAD ABOUT 4,000, IS HE STILL GOT THOSE 4,000 OUT THERE? OH NO, THOSE ARE, WE GOT A LOT OF GRANT MONEY TO GET THAT CLEANED UP.

GOOD.

YEAH.

YEAH, THAT'S REALLY HUGE.

THAT WAS A HUGE PROJECT, HUGE EFFORT.

AND IT'S A LOT BETTER HEALTH WISE.

I, MY REVENUE THIS WEEKEND, IT'S JUST A BIG PROBLEM AND IT'S NOT GONNA GO AWAY.

SO I THINK THAT MAYBE LOOKING INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT, MIGHT BE.

THAT'S GOOD, MARILYN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.

OKAY, THIS NEXT ITEM, UH OH, UH, MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, RELEVANT REPORT MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GUTTER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

UH, I PUT THIS NEXT ITEM ON, UH, THE AGENDA AND, UH, I'D TALKED TO A LADY OVER IN, UH, ELLIS COUNTY, AND, UH, THIS IS DEALING WITH THE, UH, CARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET THROUGH NACO, WHERE EACH INDIVIDUAL IN THE COUNTY CAN GET AN NACO CARD.

THIS CARD HAS SOME, UH, EXTRA BENEFITS THAN THE NACO CARD NUMBER ONE.

JOHNNY, YOUR OFFICE DOES NOT AND WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN DISTRIBUTING THE CARDS.

COAST TO COAST DISTRIBUTES THE CARDS.

UH, THE LADY TOLD ME.

OH, AND THE MAIN THING HERE IS, IS THAT THE COUNTY GETS A, A RETURN OFF THE, UH, IF THE PRESCRIPTION CARD IS USED AND THE COUNTY GETS A RETURN.

UH, THE LADY TOLD ME THAT, UH, THEIR FIRST MONTH, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE, IN THE, YOU DON'T HAVE A HANDOUT, DO YOU, PAL, WOULD YOU PASS THIS DOWN TO THE HOUSE PLEASE? AND JACK HAVE ONE FOR YOU TOO.

AND JOHNNY, I THINK YOU ALREADY HAVE YOURS.

OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY? THANK YOU.

UH, ANYWAY, SHE SAID THE FIRST MONTH I GOT A $30 RETURN, UH, AND THEN LAST MONTH IT'S UP TO FIVE $26.

AND THAT'S, WE'RE DOING NOTHING JUST BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY USED THE PRESCRIPTION CARD.

UH, ANYWAY, AFTER SEEING WHAT THE CARD DID, COMPARED TO THE NACO CARD, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER.

JOHNNY, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO RESEARCH? I, I, I'M GONNA HAVE A LIST OVER JUDGE AND, UH, ROCKWELL WAS CONSIDERING IT AND

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COUNTY.

THANKS.

VERY HIGH.

THAT'S A LOT OF HEARD BACK.

WELL, THE THING ABOUT IT IS THAT WITH NAGO CARD, WE DON'T GET ANY RETURN WITH THIS CARD IF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY USE IT.

THERE'S TWO ADVANTAGES.

GREAT ADVANTAGES.

I SEE.

NUMBER ONE IS THAT WE DO GET A RETURN OFF ITS USAGE.

NUMBER TWO IS, IT'S NOT IN JOHNNY'S LAB, LIKE THE NACO CARD IS, UH, COAST COAST DOES THE DISTRIBUTING AND, UH, AND CONTACTS THE PHARMACIES AND DOES IT ALL THEMSELVES.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE TWO BIG ADVANTAGES RIGHT THERE.

AND IT DOESN'T COST COUNTY AND IT DOESN'T COST COUNTY THAT AND 50 75% TION.

YEAH.

SO IF Y'ALL WANT THINK ABOUT IT OR STUDY IT OR GET BACK, PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA NEXT TIME OR, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG.

I IT'S A GREAT IDEA TOO.

YEAH.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING AND FIVE OR 600 A MONTH COMMISS OUT AFTER MY DAYS.

I'D ENTERTAINED A MOTION THEN TO, UH, PARTICIPATE SWITCH, UH, TO COAST TO COAST DOLLAR X DISCOUNT CARD FROM THE NACO CARD.

COMMISSIONER GULER MAKES THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECONDS IT ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL JUDGE, IS THAT, UH, IS THERE SOME KIND OF A, DO YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR, FOR SOME KIND OF A TERM? I MEAN, FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS? NO.

OR DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE JUST DO IT UNTIL WE TERMINATED.

OKAY.

IF WE DECIDE IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY, WE, WE CAN TERMINATE IT.

I THINK THE NACO THING IS A GOOD DEAL, BUT MM-HMM .

NOT PEOPLE INFORMED HOW DO THAT IN CONVERSATION THIS LIKE PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF NOTIFYING PEOPLE.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL MOTION CARRIED.

AND JOHN, I'VE GOT AN AGREEMENT THAT I WANT YOU TO READ OVER BEFORE I SIGN IT.

OKAY? OKAY.

UH, NEXT WE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROVEN IN LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND KAMAN COUNTY FOR E 9 1 1 SERVICES, EQUIPMENT ADDRESSING AND DATABASE MAINTENANCE.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, KATHY? JUST THAT IT IS THE ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT WE DO WITH CAUSE TO PROVIDE, THEY PROVIDE THE E THE 9 0 1 EQUIPMENT AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, ABOUT $25,000 FROM MY APARTMENT FOR 9 1 1 ADDRESSING THE GI .

WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL THOUGH.

WELL, I'VE ENTERTAINED A MOTION TO ENTER INTO THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

I MADE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER RATHER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

UH, NEXT ONE.

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER SCHEDULING FURLOUGH DAYS FOR A FISCAL YEAR 2010, 2011.

UH, I WASN'T PLANNING ON BRINGING THIS DISCUSSION UP UNTIL THE BUDGET HEARING, BUT, UH, THE DISTRICT JUDGES AND COUNTY COURT LAW JUDGES HAVE, UH, ARE ALREADY SITTING TRIALS FOR DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.

AND, UH, SO THEY WANTED TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE FURLOUGH DAYS WOULD CONSIST OF, WHERE THEY COULD SCHEDULE THEIR TRIALS AROUND THEM.

NOW THE SHERIFF SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ALSO, AND, UH, JOHN'S GOT, JOHN HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH, UH, AND HE'S GOT A REPORT FOR US ALSO.

SO WHO WANTS TO BEGIN? JOHN, YOU OR THE SHERIFF? WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD.

WELL, THE, UM, WHAT MY WIFE FOUND VERY LAW ON THIS MATTER, UH, THERE ARE NO ATTORNEY GENERAL'S DECISIONS TO, TO REALLY GUIDE YOU AND FURLOUGH DAYS.

THEY'LL MAKE FURLOUGH OPINIONS, DEAL ESTATE EMPLOYEES AND THOSE THAT ARE COMING OFF THE MILITARY DUTY.

UM, AND, AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DIRECTION.

UM, WHEN I CONTACTED TAC THEY SAID, UH, IT, IT, IT MIGHT BE CLEANER SIMPLY TO, UH, TO CUT SALARIES RATHER THAN DO A FURLOUGH BECAUSE IT AVOIDS QUESTIONS OF HOW YOU ADJUST FOR THE DAYS AND, AND CAN PEOPLE KIND OF OFFSET THE DAYS WITH, WITH COUNT DAYS AND, AND OTHERWISE.

AND SO THAT WAS A,

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A THOUGHT FROM, UH, MR. SCHROEDER, THE TECH OFFICE.

AND SO, UM, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A HARD ISSUE AND IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE AND I GUESS THERE'S NOT ANY REALLY GOOD ALTERNATIVES.

DID HE, UH, MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT IF YOU WERE TO JUST CUT SALARY, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD, IF, UH, DID HE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THEN TO ADD A DAY, A MONTH FOR THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE? HE DID NOT.

UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF FOLKS AT TECH THAT HAD LOOKED INTO THIS AND, AND, AND YOU SAID IF, IF, IF YOU'VE GOT SALARIES, THEN IT'S, IT'S A CLAIM WAY TO DEAL WITH IT, YOU KNOW, AVOIDS ANY REVIEWER CONCERN WITH DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, HOW CAN YOU USE DAYS TO OFFSET OTHER DAYS? AND, AND SO WE DIDN'T GO BEYOND THAT.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF FEDERAL REVIEW ANYTHING, BUT, BUT THOSE QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF STILL UNANSWERED.

THERE'S NOT DIRECTION IN STATE LAW OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW YOU DO THIS, HOW YOU ALWAYS, UH, FREE OF ANY EXPOSURE.

SO, OKAY.

I, I REALIZE THAT'S PROBABLY EVEN MORE ON THE TRACTOR THAN FURLOUGHED, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE CAPTAIN OFFICIALS HAVE TOLD ME.

WELL, THEY DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY, SO.

YEAH.

UH, SHERIFF, DO YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT IT? YES, SIR.

I LIKE WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR US BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T HAVE A TIME WHEN WE ARE NOT WORKING, UH, THE, UH, A DAY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DAYS A DAY FOR DETENTION PATROL, 11 AND A HALF HOUR, YOU KNOW, SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT DAYS OR, YOU KNOW, NINE, SIX HOURS? KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THE APPLICATION, UH, IS GOING TO IMPACT US.

YOU KNOW HOW WE FIGURE THAT IF WE'RE A VIOL, UH, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON OFF THAT WORKS 40 HOURS A WEEK, EIGHT HOUR A DAY, BUT THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO COUNT A DAY FOR THE DETENTION OFFICER, THAT'S 11 AND A HALF HOURS.

SO WE, IF WE FIGURED ON NINE, SIX HOURS, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THAT'S EIGHT OR THAT'S 12 EIGHT HOUR DAY.

SO IF, IF ONE OF MY, IF I SCHEDULED ATTENTION OFFICER OFF, THEY WOULD GET 11 AND A HALF HOURS OF CREDIT AGAINST THAT NINE, SIX HOURS FOR EACH DAY THAT I FURLOUGHED THEM OFF, THEN THAT'S THE ONLY FAIR WAY TO DO IT.

AND EVEN THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR US, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY BACK IN THE JAIL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOLDING 11 POSITIONS THIS YEAR, WHICH PRETTY WELL TAP US OUT ON ANY KIND OF RELIEF FACTOR IF WE, UH, PARDON ME.

YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE, UH, PROBLEMS BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE TO CALL PEOPLE IN TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM STAFFING, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF DEFEATING OUR PURPOSE BECAUSE THEN WE'RE ACCRUING, YOU KNOW, TIME AND A HALF, WHICH THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, INS AND OUTS THAT PROBABLY WOULD APPLY, YOU KNOW, COUNTYWIDE THAT DO NOT APPLY OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE NECESSITY FOR US TO WORK, YOU KNOW, CONTINUALLY.

YEAH.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M REALLY UP HERE, UH, ASKING IS, IS SOME CLARIFICATION OR IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, UH, I WISH THERE WAS SOME OTHER WAY TO ADDRESS THIS OTHER THAN DOING THAT BECAUSE THE, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE BOOKKEEPING ON IT AND TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS, GETS THE TIME OFF.

UH, IF WE HAVE TO DO IT EVERY MONTH, YOU, THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE IF YOU LISTEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE'RE ON FOUR AND ALL FOUR, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT MULTIPLE PEOPLE OFF ON THOSE SHIFTS.

AND IF WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A MONTH, IF WE HAD IT IS 96 HOURS OVER THE YEAR, WE, WE COULD PROBABLY HANDLE THAT MUCH BETTER.

BUT WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THIS.

AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, THE VERY BEST THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US.

AND, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CLOSE THE DOOR OUT THERE AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AT ALL FROM YOUR END AS TO HOW IT COULD BE OUT ON YOUR WAY? DON'T HEAR WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT THE, THE OBVIOUS PROBLEM I WOULD HAVE BE WE HAVE MORE REVENUE, YOU KNOW, UH, SO THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I

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PROBABLY DON'T BE A HARD GO BACK OFFICE, BUT HE THINK DO A CALL THE SALARY REDUCTION.

YEAH.

AND I ASSUME WE'VE DONE THAT ALREADY BY REDUCING THE PAY.

HAVE WE NOT? I MEAN IT'S 4.44% WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING, UH, YEAH.

WHEN SCHEDULING A 12 HOUR SHIFT WITH THE EIGHT HOURS OFF WOULD BE A BUREAUCRATIC, WELL WE, WE, WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE, WE'D BE PENALIZING THEM.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, UH, BUT WE, WE HAVE TO BE WHATEVER WE DO HAVE TO BE FAIR ACROSS THE BORDER WITH IT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM THE LEGAL PROBLEM, IT JUST, THE QUESTION OF FAIRNESS THERE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEAK PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY, UH, FOR, FOR THAT REASON.

SO, WELL AFTER LIGHT YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I, SORRY.

LIGHT OF JOHN'S RESEARCH ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS GOOD A FURLOUGH DAY BECAUSE OTHER COUNTIES AND OTHER CITY TER DID IT.

DALLAS COUNTY'S DOING IT.

I THINK THEY'RE GIVING THE DAY OFF, UH, THIS FRIDAY, UM, UH, FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, IT MAY BE JUST AS WELL TO DO A 4.4% PAY REDUCTION ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, AND NOT WORRY ABOUT TAKING DAYS OFF.

BECAUSE WE GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS THAT WE WOULD MISS THOSE DAYS THAT WE COULD SHUT THE COURTHOUSE DOWN ON UTILITIES.

UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, I DON'T GO BACK AND TELL THEM NOT GETTING THEIR DAYS OFF AND TAKING THEIR MONEY OUTTA THE POCKET, BUT I DON'T WANT BE GO BACK, TELL THE EMPLOYEES AND NOW WE'RE BACK TO CUT AND PAY WITHOUT BENEFIT OFF BENEFIT WOULD BE THE DAY OFF.

YEAH.

REGARDING THE SHERIFF'S PROBLEM, I BEEN TALKING TO THE, THE COS OVER THERE, THEY WORK 10 HOUR SHIFTS AND SO WHEN THEY GET A DAY OFF, WHATEVER, IT'S EIGHT HOURS, THEY HAVE TO USE TWO HOURS OF COMP TIME FOR IT.

I DON'T THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD USE SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR YOU COULD USE IT.

I HAVEN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

WELL, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, THE, THE, THE MONEY HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT ALREADY BEEN FIGURED OUT INTO THE BANK.

INTO THE BANK.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE, IN MY WAY OF THINKING DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS SOMETIME DURING THAT TIME, THEY HAD, THEY GET 96 EXTRA HOURS OFF.

COULD, COULD YOU TAILOR YOUR, YOUR SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT? EVERYBODY ELSE TAKES SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH OFF OR WHATEVER DAY WE'VE GOTTEN ON THERE.

COULD WE ALLOW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO SOME OF THOSE GUYS? TAKE SEPTEMBER 5TH OFF, THEN WE HAVE TO BE THERE.

BUT ONCE THAT HAVE TO BE THERE, THE PATROL GUYS, THE DEALERS, COULD WE ALLOW HIM TO DO THE NINE, SIX HOURS? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE.

ACTUALLY.

THE SHERIFF'S GOT A UNIQUE SITUATION THERE AND THEY GOT STAFF EVERY DAY.

WELL, IN THE JAIL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MEET MINIMUM STAFFING REQUIREMENTS.

AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE'RE HOLDING THE 11TH VACANCIES, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCED PAYROLL OUT THERE THIS YEAR, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THAT IMPACTS US GREATLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE RELIEF FACTOR.

AND I'VE GOT ABOUT FOUR, FOUR PEOPLE, MAYBE FIVE OFF BACK THERE NOW, COUNTING EXTENDED, YOU KNOW, FAMILY LEAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WORKERS' COMP AND THAT, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL ON PAYROLL, BUT WE'RE, THEY'RE NOT WORKING.

UH, SOME OF THOSE WILL BE BACK, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THE ONE OF 'EM, WORKERS' COMP, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.

AND UH, THAT'S A VERY UNWIELDY THING THAT WE ALL KNOW, BUT, UH, WE, UH, WE ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATIVE PEOPLE THAT WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

BUT MAJORITY OF OUR PEOPLE OUT THERE DON'T WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK, EIGHT HOURS A DAY, FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

AND WE WORK, UH, FOUR ON, FOUR OFF.

AND, AND, UH, BUT YOU THINK YOU COULD HAVE YOUR, IF, IF Y'ALL WILL, IF YOU, IF YOU'LL GIVE ME, AND I GUESS JOHN WILL HAVE TO GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON THIS, JUST TELL ME THEY, THEY'RE GOING GET NINE, SIX HOURS OFF THAT I CAN, I CAN DO THAT.

WELL, SHERIFF, ARE YOU SAYING THAT, THAT FOR A, A FURLOUGHED DAY THAT, THAT YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE COME IN THERE? 'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT, UH, I ASSUME WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS, IS THERE'S NO SURPLUS IN THE STAFFING ALREADY.

IF, IF I HAVE TO DO IT EVERY MONTH RIGHT, THEN I VERY WELL COULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE COME IN AND SOMETHING HAPPEN.

OKAY.

UH, BUT IF, IF I'VE GOT SOME, UH, LEEWAY, IF I CAN DO IT, IF YOU JUST TELL ME THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS REDUCTION WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU NINE, SIX HOURS OFF DURING THIS YEAR, THEN YOU KNOW, I, I CAN WORK THAT IT GONNA BE A, A BOOKKEEPING NIGHTMARE FOR US.

BUT

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I THINK IT WILL BE MUCH MORE PALATABLE TOO BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY GOING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, SOME MULTIPLE TIME OFF TO DO SOMETHING AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE, I THINK LIKE, SAY POTABLE TO THEM.

BUT I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY THAT IF, IF YOU'RE GOING TELL ME, OKAY, EVERYBODY HAS TO TAKE A DAY OFF EVERY MONTH OR EVERY PAY PERIOD OR HOWEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT, THAT I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN OPERATE THAT WAY.

YEAH.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK THAT IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR ANY OF US TO, TO GO TO THE PEOPLE AND SAY, OKAY, WELL COULDN'T YOU PAY 4.4% AND THAT'S IT.

AND I THINK, UH, OF COURSE PEOPLE COMPLAIN NOW WE HAVE TOO MANY HOLIDAYS, BUT, UH, I THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION AND, AND WE JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST ADDED AN EXTRA DAY OFF, GIVE AN EXTRA DAY OFF, UH, A MONTH FOR CUTTING THEIR PAY FOR FROM 4%.

THAT'S, SO I HAVE AGREE COMMISSIONER CLARK ON THAT.

WELL, LEMME THINK THE WORDING ON THIS WAS, UH, NINE, SIX HOURS OR 12 DAYS.

YEAH, I WAS ASSUMING EIGHT DAYS.

IT STILL WORKS OUT.

NINE, SIX HOURS.

SO WORDED THE WEEK.

CAN YOU JUST SAY NINE, SIX HOURS AND COVERED THE COUNTY? OH, I THINK WE COULD JUST SAY THE SHERIFF IS A UNIQUE OFFICE IN AND OF ITSELF AND, UH, LET HIM WORK THE SCHEDULE IN HIS DEPARTMENT.

WOULD YOU LIKE THAT FOR THE DEPUTIES AND THE JAIL? YES.

THAT THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THE, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMUNICATION ACTUALLY WORKS THREE AND A HALF ON, THREE AND A HALF OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE $40.

YOU KNOW, SO I CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HANDLE THAT.

UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WILL BE, I MEAN WE WON'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE ABOUT FIVE BALLS IN HERE AT ONE TIME.

THAT'S GONNA BE HARD TO KEEP UP WITH.

IT'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, BUT IF I CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST GET CLARIFICATION.

IF THIS IS A 96 HOUR, YOU KNOW, TIME OFF IN LIEU OF THIS PAY, THEN OVER THE FISCAL YEAR, WE CAN, WE CAN HANDLE THAT.

IF I HAVE TO DO IT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, I DON'T BELIEVE I CAN AND OPERATE OTHER, COULD YOU SHERIFF COULD, BECAUSE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT I, THAT I'VE RECEIVED ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROGRAM DEPARTMENT WAS LET US TAKE OUR OWN DAYS OFF.

WELL, THAT'S A LITTLE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE WHERE MY GUYS WANT TAKE MM-HMM .

IF FOREMAN WANT TO TAKE OFF, I'M PRETTY WELL SHUT DOWN.

I'M MIGHT AS WELL BE COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN.

COULD YOU HAVE IT SOME KIND OF POLICY WHERE STUFF IS BLANKET EVERYBODY IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GONNA HOLLER THAT WE'RE TREATING THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT DIFFERENT, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE PEOPLE FOLLOW LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND ONCE WORK AT THE COURTHOUSE OVER HERE AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE, HAVE TO HAVE NINE TO SIX HOURS, PEOPLE NOT WORK.

THE EIGHT HOUR DAY ARE ONES THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

EVERYBODY ELSE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TAKE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE WORKING FOUR HOURS A WEEK, UH, UH, THIS PAST WEEK, WE WOULD HAVE TO TREAT THEM ACTUALLY PROBABLY AS, UH, THE, THE ROT, THE DETENTION OR PATROL CAUSE OF THE, OF THE WAY WE HAVE TO STAFF THAT.

BUT WHAT WE CAN DO, WE CAN, IF WE CAN GET THAT, THEN WE COULD GO TO THEM AND SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TAKE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR WORKLOAD IS, YOU CAN TAKE TWO EXTRA DAYS OFF WITH THIS ROTATION, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND GET THAT SCHEDULED JUST LIKE THEY HAVE TO SCHEDULE VACATION BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THEIR VACATION, THEY EARN THIS THIS YEAR OR TWO DURING THAT TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, APPROVE EXTRA VACATION.

UH, SO YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S AT THE END OF THE YEAR WITH AS MANY PEOPLE WE'VE GOT.

THAT'S A LOT OF TIME, BUT WE HAVE TO JUGGLE A COUPLE HERE.

WE PROBABLY GET THE BUGS WORKED OUT OF THIS, BUT HOPE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS NEXT YEAR.

.

WE, WE'LL HAVE A ONE TIME TO GET THE BUG WORKED OUT, UH, IT SEEMS TO ME DO A 4.4 REDUCTION ACROSS THE BOARD AND THEN ADD 12 DAYS TO OUR HOLIDAY SCHEDULE.

UH, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE THE SIMPLEST.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

HAVE DAYS I TOOK LIBERTY OF, OF POLLING EVERYBODY THAT WORKS IN PRECINCT TWO AND SUB COURTHOUSE OVER THERE AS TO WHICH DAYS THEY WOULD PREFER.

THAT'S A CONSENSUS OF EVERYBODY'S DAYS.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE I WHAT? I HAVE NO, I'D HAVE NO SAY SO IN IT.

I DON'T WANT THAT WOULD WORK OR NOT WORK, BUT I SAID IF WE GONNA PICK THE DAYS, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY OVER THERE WOULD LIKE TO.

LIKE TO.

AND THEN WHAT DOES IT TAX, IT IT TAX ON TO A HOLIDAY? TO A HOLIDAY? WELL AFTER MOST PEOPLE DON

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WANT IT FOR A LONG WEEKEND OR INJUNCTION OTHER DAYS OFF.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM THAT I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT MAKING COPIES OF I TO THINK ABOUT SAID, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONSISTENT RULE THAT I CAN OFFER.

MY, MY, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE IF IT CAN'T BE THE FIRST WEEK OR THE LAST WEEK OR THE MONTH, JUST BECAUSE THEY GOT A PAY TAXES, THEY GOTTA REGISTER THEIR VEHICLE, UH, THE MIDDLE TWO WEEKS OF A MONTH ON THIS FURLOUGH DAY, THE DAY HE CLOSED THE COURTHOUSE DOWN.

AND IT HAS TO BE THE SAME LIKE THE SECOND MONDAY OF THE MONTH OR THE SECOND FRIDAY OR THE THIRD FRIDAY AND THIRD MONDAY.

UH, SO THAT SOMEBODY, THE TAXPAYERS HAS TO KNOW WHEN THEY CAN COME TO THE CAR.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S GOTTA BE KIND OF A UNIFORM STILL PAY STILL THEY EVERYTHING DOWN.

IT STILL, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE SAVINGS.

EVERYBODY STAY ON.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITH THE DOUG? WE JUST LOOKING FOR OPTION FOR SOME DAYS.

YEAH.

WELL WE DON'T HAVE DISTRICT, THEY'RE SCHEDULING THEIR TRIALS NOW.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, JANUARY ALSO ANGIE POINTED OUT THAT ON, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OCTOBER ON HERE, BUT UH, UH, IN OCTOBER, UH, THERE ONE OF THE SPECIAL, SPECIAL ELECTIONS IN SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 28TH.

IT'S FOR THE REGULAR ELECTION.

NOVEMBER 2ND, WE WOULD'VE TO SAY TWO WEEKS IN OCTOBER, LAST TWO VACATION.

EVERYBODY WANTED, THEIR PREFERENCE WAS TO ADD ON TO EXISTING AND I THINK ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS EXCEPT TO DO, UH, BACK TO THE SHERIFF'S.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME JUST MAKING AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE I THINK THE FL STATE, IN FACT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT RULES COVERING YOUR OVERTIME AND TIME AND EVERYTHING.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S SAME PROBLEM.

JUST LET YOU TAKE 96 DAYS AWAY.

YOU WANT TO DO IT HOURS.

6 6 96 HOURS.

HOURS.

WHAT ONCE A YOU GETTING ALL THAT HAL? SO FAR, I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION IS ON OUR, OUR TIME SHEETS, HOW DO, HOW WE ACCOUNT FOR THAT TIME? YOU KNOW, WE TURN THE TIME SHEET WHERE THINKING JUST PUT IN FURLING EIGHT.

YEAH, I'M NOT THAT SMART.

I GUESS THEY JUST KEEP THEIR NORMAL TIME UNTIL THEY'RE GONNA TAKE WELL THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THAT 96 ALL DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE THAT ALL AT ONE TIME.

THEY TAKE TWO WEEKS, THEY MAKE, AND I GUESS JUST SHOW THAT AS A FURLOUGH TIME IN THERE ON THE TIME SHEET BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE MONEY'S ALREADY BEEN, THE MONEY'S ALREADY GONE ANYWAY.

OKAY.

IF I, SORRY, ONE BECAUSE WHAT DO YOU KNOW, PASS THIS OUT WHEN EVERYBODY BE THINKING ABOUT IT, THEN IN OUR NEXT MEETING PINPOINT BETTER.

UNLESS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING WE'VE GOT NOW THE JUDGE IS SITTING THERE TRIAL.

WELL OF COURSE THE MAIN THING WE'RE INTERESTED IN IS, IS GETTING THAT SAVINGS.

WE DON'T REALLY CARE HOW YOU, I WE'LL LET YOU OPERATE THAT OUT THERE.

YOU NEED TO, AS LONG AS THE SAVINGS IS IN THERE THAT THE MAIN THING FOR US, LIKE JC SAID, JUST HAVE IT SHERIFF DEPARTMENT DO YOUR 96 HOUR, SHE'S GONNA MAKE A COPY OF THAT.

THAT RATE WORKED UP TO, UH, TO LOOK AT JUDGE.

IS THAT YES SIR.

I DIDN'T GET TO ONE.

GO AHEAD.

I I'M, I'M SORRY.

UM, CAMERON WAS, UH, POINTING SOMETHING

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OUT.

HE SAID THAT THE, THE COURT'S USUALLY LIKE IF A HOLIDAY ALREADY, UH, SHORTNESS WEIGHT, THEN THEY KIND OF CONSIDER IT SHOT FOR JURY TRIAL PURPOSES AND, AND SO IF THE EXTRA DAY IS ADDED TO A HOLIDAY WEEK, IT PROBABLY WOULD'VE LESS IMPACT ON THE COURTS.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, ALSO I'M AWARE OF WHAT UM, COMMISSIONER DELI HAS SAID THAT YOU'VE GOT THE CONSIDERATION OF PERFORM PURPOSES GOING, BUT EVERY SECOND OR THIRD FRIDAY THE MONTH THE COURT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED OR, AND, AND SO I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF A, A BALANCING, BUT I GUESS JUST FROM WHEN YOU SAID THAT ABOUT THE COURT'S CONSIDERATION, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE IT TWO DAYS IN ONE WEEK IS COMPARED TO 2 4, 8 WEEKS MM-HMM .

BACK TO BACK AND FORTH.

WELL, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT AS EASY AS SOUNDED IN THE BEGINNING.

MM-HMM .

LET'S JUST HAVE SOME FUR DOWN.

LET'S MOVE YOUR VACATION.

BUT A LOT OF TIME MOVE YOUR HOLIDAYS TO MATCH SECOND S CHRISTMAS, SUNDAY THE 12TH OF DECEMBER.

YEAH.

THE DISTRICT JUDGES AGREED THAT YOU WE COULD CALL THAT BECAUSE THE WHOLE LEGAL THINGS GO FROM DON'T COUNT HOLIDAYS.

RIGHT.

THEY SAY IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HOLIDAY FOR THE EMPLOYEES, BUT THE COURTHOUSE ITSELF WOULD HAVE A HOLIDAY THAT DAY.

SO YEAH.

BE SO THAT WOULD EXTEND THAT IF YOU HAD A DEADLINE THAT WAS GONNA BE ON A FRIDAY, WE WEREN'T BUILT ON THAT FRIDAY, THAT'D BE A COURTHOUSE HOLIDAY FOR COURTHOUSE.

THE EMPLOYEES FURLOUGH THAT.

EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD EXTEND THAT OUT TO THE NEXT MONDAY, WHATEVER DAY THEY SAID, THEY SAID THAT WOULD SOLVE THAT, THAT ISSUE.

UH, THE HOW AND HOW JACK JOHNNY JUDGE.

SO WE'RE GOING BE A LABELED HOW ON 96 HOURS IN THE FISCAL YEAR ON YOUR DEPARTMENT? YEAH.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

EXCEPT FOR YOUR ADMINISTRATOR, PEOPLE WE'LL HANDLE.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

ADMINISTRATIVE.

YEAH.

Y'ALL YEAH, I JUST, I JUST SAID YOU MAY WANT TO SPREAD YOUR JUST ADMINISTRATIVE DEPOT.

YEAH, WELL WE'LL MOVE THAT.

WE'LL SCHEDULE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SHERIFF.

THANK YOU.

SHERIFF.

IS THIS FRIDAY? UH, THEY JUST, THEY JUST LET'S, UH, DID LAST FRIDAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN COME BACK AND DISCUSS THIS.

UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WOULD BE DISCUSSED SAID THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

AND COMMISSIONER CLARK HAS TAKEN THE LEAD IN, I THINK WE ASKED Y'ALL BACK, UH, THIS WEEK, THE BRIDGES THAT YOU WANNA PRESENT TO TECH DID THIS.

YEAH, THEY, THIS, THIS, THIS IS THE ONE WE WANT WORK OFF OF.

YEAH.

PROJECT RIGHT HERE.

THESE ARE THE TWO WE'RE TRYING DO HAVE YOU GOT NUMBER DOLLAR NUMBERS ON THEM? OH, UH, DO YOU WANT THE NUMBER? THIS NUMBER OR JUST A ROAD ON? BECAUSE I GOT SOME OF MY ROAD.

I THINK A DOLLAR NUMBER IS WHAT HE WANTS.

WE NEED A DOLLAR.

WHICH, WHICH LIST YOU LOOKING AT? I, I WAS GONNA WORK, I'M WORKING ON THIS.

40 72 IS MY ROAD.

YEAH, BUT IT'S GOT A TEXT OUT BRIDGE NUMBER ON IT, DOESN'T IT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I ASKED.

DO YOU WANT THE CHECK THAT BRIDGE NUMBER OR YEAH, CHECK THAT BRIDGE NUMBER AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT GONNA COST, RIGHT? HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST TO REPLACE IT.

SO WE GET CREDIT FOR OUR 95,000, WHICH THAT'S THE DOLLAR MAP GONNA COST TO YOU TOO.

BUT YOU GOT THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT? YEAH, I GOT THE NUMBERS.

WE, THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE THAN I HAVE.

I HAVE SOME AGENTS.

NOBODY'S GONNA AUDIT THESE NUMBERS.

.

SO, SO YOU'RE WORKING OFF THE BOOK.

YOU GAVE ME .

WE NEED, WE NEED TO BE CLERK.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA COST US TO DO SOMETHING.

YEAH.

A YEAR, YOU KNOW, OUT FROM HERE

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OR TWO YEARS OUT FROM HERE, OUT OF POCKET ABOUT 7,000 TOTAL BILL.

ABOUT 50,000.

OKAY.

47 2.

I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THEN FOR THAT BRIDGE NUMBER, WE'LL PUT IN A COST TESTIMONY OF 50,000.

OKAY.

SO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH EITHER ONE OR TWO OTHER BRIDGES OR WHATEVER.

45,000.

THAT'D BE ALL YOU NEED.

WHAT IS THEN WE'RE NOT HAVING, WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY OUT POCKET CASH TO GIVE TO , REPLACE THE BRIDGES.

IF I CAN DO 50, 55,000, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 40,000.

WE COME UP WITH AT LEAST TWO OR THREE MORE BRIDGES COVER.

I GOT, I GOT AT LEAST ONE 40,000 PLUS PROBABLY TO FIX, BUT TEXTILE 61 ON THE SAME ROAD, JUST UP THE ROAD.

I GUESS I NEED TO GET BACK WITH TEXTILE.

SEE TECHS FIXING TWO ON THAT SAME ROAD.

OTHER THAN THAT.

OKAY.

I, WELL, NO, UH, QUESTION, WELL, LEMME ASK YOU THIS.

COMMISSIONER CLARK COULD, COULD FIRST AS TODAY'S ITEM, ACTION ITEM, COULD WE JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, PASS THE RESOLUTION THAT WE WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT TO THEM WHICH BRIDGE WE NEED TO TELL THEM WHICH BRIDGES WE'RE GONNA BE DOING.

WHEN WE SEND THIS RESOLUTION IN TODAY, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TURN AROUND AND GET AN AGREEMENT WITH US TO FUND THIS THING WITH THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE AND THEN WE'LL PASS THAT RESOLUTION AT THAT POINT.

BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW IS TODAY, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO KNOW TODAY? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S WHY WE TABLED IT FROM LAST WEEK.

SO THAT WE COULD, WE COULD, UH, AND 50, YOU KNOW, $50,000 ON YOUR BRIDGE NUMBER WOULD BE FINE, WHICH NEEDED YOU, YOU GOT THIS, YOU GOT A COPY OF THIS, RIGHT? YOU LOOK ON 47 2 AND UH, PUT THAT THE 1 8 1, WHATEVER THAT CRAZY NUMBER IS.

1 8 1 3.

OH, IT'S ON 40 72? YEAH.

OKAY.

YOU GOT IT IS THAT'S THE ONLY ONE OWNER.

4 8 9.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE RIGHT NOW.

4 8 9 0 0 1.

UH, ESTIMATE 50,000.

I'VE GOT ONE BRIDGE I COULD PUT ON THERE, BUT Y'ALL MAY HAVE SOME MORE BRIDGES THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ONE BRIDGE THAT I'VE GOT AND SO I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW.

THESE ARE THE TWO THAT WE'LL DO RIGHT HERE.

THAT DO YOU NEED ME TO WORK THAT OUT FOR YOU? NO, I, I, I JUST NEED TO GIVE THOSE, I JUST NEED TO GIVE EM THOSE NUMBERS SO THEY'LL TAKE IT OFF THEIR LIST.

YEAH.

WHICH BE WHAT TWO ARE YOU? I HAVE ONE.

I HAVE TWO.

ONE WE WORK ON 2 89 COUNTER, 2 83 AND COUNTER 1 0 9.

REMEMBER YOU CAN'T DO ANY WORK ON UNTIL, UNTIL WE APPROVE THIS.

WAIT FOR THE APPROVAL.

THAT HAPPENS.

WE'VE GOT TWO YEARS.

WANNA DO THAT? I MEAN, I THINK JIM'S IS READY TO GO RIGHT NOW.

SO AFTER WE GET THIS THING APPROVED SOMETIME NEXT YEAR, WE, AND THE NEXT YEAR AFTER THAT AND STILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR PROGRAM.

BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO JUMP OUT THERE ON YOUR OWN BECAUSE WE DO A BRIDGE YET.

WE TELL, WE NEED TO TELL TODAY.

WHICH ONE, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO THE WORK WAS DONE BEFORE TEXAS OUT APPROVED IT AND THEY WOULDN'T GIVE YOU A PENNY.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, YEAH.

OKAY.

MY SITUATION ON ONE OF THE BRIDGES, UH, TAKE OUT CITY, WE TRY TO INCLUDE IT IN, BUT THEY HAVEN'T, BUT IT REALLY NEEDED TO WORK ON IT.

I I PROBABLY COULD DO THE WORK ON IT, BUT I I DON'T WANT DO THE WORK ON IT IF THEY'RE GONNA DO IT.

RIGHT.

WHAT BRIDGE IS THAT? IT'S ON THREE 10.

SAME.

UH, JUST BIT BEFORE THIS MUD CREEK.

THE ONE THEY'RE DOING IS THE BIG BRIDGE.

IT'S A SMALLER BRIDGE BEHIND IT.

IT'S PROBABLY WORSE SHAPE.

UH, I HAVE COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT, BUT I COULD DO THAT BRIDGE, BUT I DON'T WANNA DO IT.

IF THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT TO, WELL, THEIR LIST OF BRIDGES IN ORDER.

YEAH.

OF THE WORST ONES.

YEAH.

ARE ARE THESE SICK BRIDGES RIGHT HERE? SO THEY'RE GOING TO KNOCK ALL ONE AND TWO START WITH, OKAY.

AND I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER BRIDGES WILL MOVE UP THERE.

THEN OUR OTHER TWO WORST BRIDGE IS TWO YEARS FROM NOW.

WE'LL SIX MOVE UP LIKE THOSES, LIKE SEE, BUT THERE'S A RANKING ON THERE OF THESE BRIDGE NUMBERS AND THE THE WORST BRIDGE RANKING.

UH, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE NEXT ONE THAT'S GOING MOVE UP? YEAH.

UNLESS SOMETHING Y'ALL FLOOD GETS PART OF IT.

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WHAT? I I I TOOK THE PIECES AND EVERYTHING.

WHY SHOULD I BE TRYING TO DO THESE THAT ARE ON THIS? NO, NO, NO.

YOU DON'T DO THESE BECAUSE THESE ARE, THESE ARE HALF MILLION DOLLAR JOBS.

YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

I TAKE THAT OFF.

GOTCHA.

LEMME LOOK AT THAT OTHER ONE.

I MAKE ONE, ONE OF IN PRECINCT THREE.

THAT'S ONE MONTH.

AND UH, AM I PRECINCT WITH THIS ONE RIGHT ON THIS ROAD? THREE 10? YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE I'M TECHNICALLY THAT'S A 4 41 PROJECT.

YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE.

YOU PROBABLY THAT ONE.

THAT'S ONE GONNA DO.

SO YOU DON'T NEED THAT ON.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.

I HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON, ON THE SAME ROAD.

I'LL GO BACK.

THEY PROPOSED TO THE COUNTY ROAD THREE 10 AT BUDDY CREEK FOR $441,000.

THEY PROPOSED TO DO 1 0 9 IN PRECINCT ONE FOR $276,000.

UH, WE WOULD'VE TO MATCH, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKE 5% OF THAT COST OURSELVES BY US DOING AND ALL SECOND BRIDGES ON US.

THEY'RE GOING DO EVENTUALLY FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, OUR BATCH IS $95,000.

JUDGE'S.

GOTTA FIX THAT ON BRIDGE.

THAT'S NOT ON ITS LIST.

WE NEED ANOTHER BRIDGE OR TWO BRIDGES.

ABOUT 45,000 MORE FOR ABOUT 40,000 MORE WHATEVER, 50,000.

I CAN ADD THAT IF YOU GOT TWO, I MEAN IF Y'ALL GO TO BRIDGE FEES AND YOU KNOW, WE PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, COVER THAT, THOSE EXPENSES.

SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT HERE.

BUT YOU KNOW, ROAD BRIDGEPORT, WE PUT 50.

IT'S GONNA BE A YEAR AFTER, BEFORE IT.

WHAT HAPPENED IS WE SPENT, WE PUT $50,000 IN THIS YEAR AND IF JIM'S GONNA DO THAT BRIDGE THAT THAT'LL COVER HIS EXPENSES GOING HAVE TO ON THAT BRIDGE, IT'S GONNA BE LESS THAN THAT.

BUT YEAH, BECAUSE THE LABOR AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA REALLY, IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT YOUR, YOUR ROAD AGREED.

BUDGET FOR YOU AFTER NEXT WHAT? CLEAR HIS BLOOD, CLEAR HIS MUD CREW.

I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

THAT'S, WE CAN STILL USE THE BLACK CARS.

YES.

ON THE YES.

THAT WAS THE MAIN THING.

YOU CAN STILL, YOU CAN STILL USE TRAIN CARDS ON WE WHAT YOU IMPROVE ONE OF THESE BRIDGES.

IT'S ON THAT LIFT, THAT LONG LIST THEY'VE GOT.

ONCE YOU IMPROVE THAT BRIDGE, IT GOES OFF THAT BRIDGE OF TEXTILES.

THEY'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AGAIN.

BUT YOU CAN'T USE THE TANK CARS.

IF IT'S A BRIDGE, IT'S BRIDGE.

BRIDGE.

THEY IT GO TO A COLOR THEN IT'S NOT, IF YOU REPLACE A BRIDGE WITH A TANK HORN, IT'S NO LONGER A BRIDGE AND THEY'RE NO LONGER GOING TO BE YEAH.

IT COULD HELP YOU FIX IT.

THIS DO YOU NEED THIS NUMBER? THIS IS ONE I MUCH YOU ESTIMATE YOUR TODAY, UH, THAT COST BE 6,000, LITTLE 6,000 OUT OF POCKET.

BUT THE WHOLE JOB IS PROBABLY GONNA BE CLOSE TO 30,000 PER WHAT? YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

AND WHAT, WHAT BRIDGE IS THAT? UH, ON 3 38 DOWN ROAD.

3 38.

THREE 30? YEAH.

3 3 8 3 3 8.

I'M GONNA HOLD OFF THREE 10 IF I CAN GET THE, YOUR YOURS IS, UH, 2 7 9 7.

WE GOT A BRIEF NUMBER ON THAT.

3 0 3 38.

UH, IT SHOULD BE LIKE AA THREE THREE.

WE DONE HERE.

DUCK CREEK 3 38 3 1 8 3 0 8 8.

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THE NUMBER PERMIT.

OKAY.

I TALK ABOUT THE CONCRETE, THE HEAD WALLS.

THAT'S OUT POCKET, BUT I CAN, ALRIGHT, YOU GOT IT? I'M READY.

I GOT FIVE, 15,000.

SO GOT, I GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION.

VALENTINE'S DAY DOING.

IT'S OKAY.

Y'ALL GOT THAT OUT? YES SIR.

I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE IMPROVE, UH, COUNTY ROAD FORCE 47 2.

WELL FIRST THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM WITH, TAKES DEPART ATION IN THAT WE WILL, UH, REQUEST IMPROVEMENT ON BRIDGES.

UH, YOU READY? MARYANNE? AA OH 2 1 3 AND AA OH 3 3 5.

YES.

YOU CAN'T QUITE YOU THE FIRST ONE PLEASE.

2 1 3 AA DASH 2 1 3.

YEAH.

AA 0 2 1 3.

OKAY, THE SECOND ONE IS AA 0 3 3 5.

AND WE'LL PARTICIPATE WITH, UH, COUNTY ROAD 40 72 COUNTY ROAD 2 79 AND COUNTY ROAD 3 3 8.

WHAT WAS THE ESTIMATE ON 2 79? SIR? WHAT WAS THE ESTIMATE ON 2 79? 30,000.

OKAY, YOU GOT 30,000 ON 3 38, 30,000 ON 2 79 AND 50,000 ON 4 47 2.

YES, YOUR HONOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

GOT THREE 30, JUST 2 79.

30,000 ON 3 30, 8 50.

THE BRIDGE NUMBER, WE DON'T NEED THOSE.

T JUST NEEDS USD.

THE BRIDGE? YES.

OKAY.

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UH, MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLER AND MARYANNE, YOU GOT ALL THE BRIDGES, NUMBERS AND EVERYTHING.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE BRIDGES? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

UH, WANT TO DISCUSS, UH, RESALE TAX PROPERTY SITE ADDRESS? 5 0 1 SOUTH ADELAIDE IN CAROL.

YES, SIR.

IT'S BEEN NOT SEEN.

TRY TO GET IT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

UH, HOLIDAY, INCREASED HOLIDAY DATES.

UH, WE WORKED IN THIS A LITTLE BIT AND CHANGING SOME FEBRUARY TO JANUARY AND, UH, FEBRUARY TO APRILS AND WHATEVER, UH, CONSIDER THIS LIST.

UH, AND HE'S GOT PROPOSED FURLOUGH DAYS, BUT FURLOUGH DAYS.

BUT LIKE I SAID, JUDGES SAY WE NEED TO CALL THEM HOLIDAYS.

SO, UH, ADDITION, IN ADDITION TO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE ON VETERAN'S DAY, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 11TH, UH, INCLUDE FRIDAY, NOVEMBER THE 12TH ON THANKSGIVING, WHICH WE HAVE NOVEMBER 25TH AND 26TH.

INCLUDE WEDNESDAY THE 24TH ON CHRISTMAS, UH, AT THE 20TH AND 21ST OF DECEMBER.

AND IS YOUR HONOR, IS THAT CORRECT ON CHRISTMAS? SHOULDN'T IT BE THE 22ND? OH, NO, THAT'S CORRECT.

I'M SORRY.

WHAT'S THAT? THURSDAY, FRIDAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I, IT IT IS 22ND, 23RD AND 24TH IS WHAT IS ON OUR THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

SORRY.

SO YOU'RE GONNA ADD 20 AND 21 TO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS.

THAT'S, THAT'S AN ENTIRE REAL ESTATE.

PEOPLE WON'T BE HAPPY.

YOUR, YOUR HONOR.

NOTHING'S, NOTHING'S SELLING OUT ANYWAY.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

HONOR YOUR, YOUR HONOR.

OF COURSE Y'ALL ARE CERTAINLY FREE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

BUT, UH, I WOULD, UH, JUST SUGGEST FROM THE COURT STANDPOINT, THE IDEA THAT ALL THE COURTS WOULD BE CLOSED FOR A WEEK.

MM-HMM .

UH, MIGHT, MIGHT BE A CONCERN TO ONE OR MORE THE JUDGES.

JOHN, JUVENILE JUSTICE.

I SIT AS LONG AS I KNOW THAT ADJUST AROUND THAT .

YEAH.

AND, AND I'M TOLD JUVENILE JUSTICE CAN'T BE CLOSED FOR THAT WAS ONLY DAY ALREADY HAD THOUGHT MIGHT COME UP FOR SOME SERIOUS CONSIDERATIONS.

WHAT'S BEEN SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE WEEK? THAT WAS A, THAT WAS THE EMPLOYEE'S PREFERENCE THOUGH.

OH, I, I, I'M ASKING, IT COULD BE MY PREFERENCE TOO.

I'M, I'M NOT IN REALITY HOW MUCH COURT HAS ACTUALLY DONE THAT WEEK OF CHRISTMAS? NOT MUCH.

NOT MUCH.

I DIDN'T THINK SO THROUGH HISTORY, BUT, BUT IT WOULD BE EMERGENCY STUFF, I WOULD GUESS.

LIKE, SO EMERGENCY STUFF'S ALWAYS, I MEAN THAT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

I COURT IS FORMAL, BUT WHAT DO THEY DO NOW ON THE WEEKENDS IN EMERGENCY? THEY HUNT THE JUDGE DOWN.

I'VE SIGNED MANY ONES ON WEEKENDS.

ANYWAY, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN, UH, NEW YEAR'S, UH, ADD MONDAY, JANUARY THE THIRD ON MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY AND FRIDAY, JANUARY THE 14TH ON PRESIDENT'S DAY AT FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 18TH ON GOOD.

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FRIDAY AT MONDAY.

APRIL 25TH.

UH, APRIL 22.

YEAH.

YOU GOT FEBRUARY HERE.

YES.

YEAH.

PERCENT WE CORRECT.

I MUST HAVE BEEN TACKLED.

YEAH.

MUST HAVE BEEN.

MAYBE ID IT, I SITTING BACK HERE TRYING TO THINK, WELL, WHAT HOLIDAY IS.

OKAY, NEXT ONE.

MEMORIAL DAY.

THIS ONE, UH, AT FRIDAY, MAY 27TH ON INDEPENDENCE DAY AT JULY THE FIRST, WHICH IS FRIDAY AND JULY THE FIFTH, WHICH IS TUESDAY.

GOSH, ON LABOR DAY AND FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER THE SECOND.

AND IF, UH, WE COUNTED CORRECTLY, THAT MAKES 12 DAYS.

YEAH.

UP.

DID Y'ALL SAY THAT APRIL 25TH WAS A TYPO? IT SHOULD BEEN FEBRUARY.

NO, IT WAS FEBRUARY ON OUR LIST.

IT SHOULD BE APRIL.

APRIL 25TH.

OKAY, GOOD.

IF WE ADOPT THESE AND IT PUBLISHED COURT KNOW ABOUT IT, NEWSPAPERS KNOW ABOUT IT, PUBLIC KNOWS ABOUT IT, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE JUDGES DID SAY, THEY SHOULD BE CALLED ADDITIONS TO THE HOLIDAYS AND NOT FURTHER DAYS.

REALLY A LEGAL, LEGAL THING, I GUESS.

YEAH.

FLOATING IS GONE.

UH, DISCUSSED.

WHY WOULD WE TAKE, DISCUSSED? THAT'S WHAT, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S DISCUSSED IN JANUARY WHEN YOU SET THE HOLIDAY FOR THE YEAR.

WELL, I THOUGHT THE FURLOUGH BACK PROBABLY IN JANUARY WE SET THE NEXT YEAH, THIS, THESE DAYS WOULD BE IN JANUARY.

I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW BASICALLY IS, UH, BETWEEN NINE AND JANUARY.

'CAUSE JANUARY THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, MR. COURT WILL SET THE HOLIDAYS FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO FROM, UH, NEW YEAR'S, NEW YEAR'S DOWN IS NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S A STUDY THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE SAME HOLIDAYS NEXT YEAR.

FIFTH HOLIDAY.

IS THIS OFF? IS THIS OFF 2011? CALENDAR.

CALENDAR, YES.

YEAH, YOU HAVE TO SAY, UH, MONDAY, JANUARY 3RD BECAUSE THEY WON.

COURT WON'T MEET YOU.

SO EVERYTHING AFTER THAT WILL BE REDONE IN JANUARY.

THOSE WERE THE HISTORICAL DATES THAT WE USED FOR VACATION DAYS.

THAT'S BEST.

WE, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT IT, Y'ALL? AS FAR AS, LIKE I SAY, TENTATIVE SCHEDULE FROM JANUARY 14TH ON OR JANUARY 3RD.

ALL RATHER, UH, AS LONG AS WE CAN, AS LONG AS WE CAN NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.

I THINK IT'S GOOD.

THE, YEAH, YOU DRIVE ALL THE WAY FROM HERE TO THERE.

LICENSE PLATE OUT IN ITS CLOSED IN.

IT'S CLOSED BECAUSE PEOPLE TAKE THEIR DAY OFF.

YEAH.

WELL I GOT ANOTHER, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TAKING OFF.

YEAH, I KNOW.

I KNOW.

BUT THEY'RE MY BOSS.

I THINK FOR, UH, THE DISTRICT JUDGE'S REQUEST, I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND, AND ESTABLISH THESE ADDITIONAL HOLIDAYS FOR VETERANS DAY, THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS, AND NEW YEAR'S.

AND THEN WE'LL GIVE 'EM THE LIST OF WHAT PROBABLY WILL BE DONE IN JANUARY 2ND.

I JUST ASKED FOR SOME OPINIONS.

TRUST ME, I GOT 'EM.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD UTILIZATION OF WELL, I THINK IT IS TOO, ANGIE.

SHAKING YOUR HEAD YES.

APPROVE.

APPROVE.

WE GOTTA MAKE, JUST TRY TO MAKE THE BEST OF A BAD SITUATION.

YEAH, YEAH, I HEAR YOU.

THAT'S GOOD.

I DON'T LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE TO FIND YOURSELVES AND GOING OUT TO THE CONSTITUENTS AND TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT THIS

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SAVES THE COUNTY A MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT'S, THAT SAVED US INCREASING TAXES.

2 CENTS.

YES, SIR.

I WONDER WHY THESE HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED HOLIDAYS WHEN, WHEN EVERYBODY SEES THIS IN THE PAPER.

BECAUSE THE RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE SAYS THAT IF A ENTRY DATE ENDS ON THE HOLIDAY, THEN THE ENTRY DATE GOES TO THE NEXT DAY.

OKAY.

IT DOESN'T SAY IF YOU HAVE, IT ENDS ON A FURLOUGH DATE.

IT GOES TO THE NEXT DAY.

SO IT'S GOT, I'M JUST CONCERNED WHEN THIS GETS PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER AND EVERYBODY SEES THIS AND WE GOT 26 HOLIDAYS.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, BUT I'LL JUST HAVE 'EM CALL YOU JUDGE AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO, I CAN EXPLAIN TO FUR DATE, NOT VACATION DATES.

ALL DATES TODAY FOR, WELL THAT WAS THE DISTRICT JUDGE'S CONCERN IS THAT THE RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE DOESN'T SAY IF IT ENDS, IF THE TIME ENDS ON A FURLOUGH DATE, IF IT ENDS ON A HOLIDAY, THEN IT GOES TO THE ANSWER DATE GOES TO THE NEXT DAY.

OKAY.

BUT THEN THAT'S ALL THAT ISSUE, LIKE MIKE SAID, IF WE JUST CALL THE DAY THE EMPLOYEES GOT THERE TO FURLOUGH DAY.

BUT THE COURTHOUSE IS, THE COURTHOUSE BUILDING IS OFF VACATION THAT DAY.

EXACTLY.

OKAY.

THAT MAKES LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.

IT MOVES OVER TO ANOTHER DAY, WHATEVER.

BUT, BUT IF WE JUST REDUCE, WE DON'T HAVE FURLOUGH DATES.

WE DON'T WHAT I'M SAYING YOU JUST REDUCED PAY.

YOU DON'T HAVE, WE'RE NOT HAVING FOR LITTLE PAY, BUT WE'RE OFFSETTING, WE'RE GRANTING AN EXTRA FOR A 4.4% PAY CUT.

WE'RE GIVING 12 EXTRA.

I GOT IT.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE TO EXPLAIN ONE TIME .

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, UH, JIM SAYS HE WAS SECONDED, BUT I DON'T THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER PARK HAS ACTUALLY MADE THAT MOTION YET.

THAT'S WHAT THE EMPLOYEES OVER THAT MY AREA WANT DO.

I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE.

THE EMPLOYEES WORK FOR .

I'LL MAKE THIS MOTION.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DELLER.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? YES.

WOULD YOU CLARIFY THE MOTION PLEASE? OKAY.

THE MOTION IS TO, UH, AMEND OUR HOLIDAY SCHEDULE.

OKAY.

TO ADD.

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH.

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH.

DECEMBER 20TH AND 21ST AND JANUARY 3RD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAIR COUNTY? UH, UH, WHEN I GIVE THESE DATES TO THE JUDGES, THEY'LL HAVE THESE OTHER DATES ON PROPOSED PROPOSED DATES.

OKAY.

ANY LINE ITEMS? YES.

AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME SMALL ITEMS THAT, UH, LET CONVENIENCE, JUDICIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT INCREASE, INTERPRET COST.

3000 OF TAXES, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

INCREASED LAWN 5,000.

SUPPLIES 2000 FOR PRODUCTION OF UTILITIES AND COLLABORATE SERVICE.

SHERIFF'S OFFICE, INCREASED PARTS REPAIRS, 8,000 CONDUCTED COMMUNICATIONS.

THE JAIL INCREASED MEDICINE AND DRUGS, 10,000.

HOUSEHOLD SUPPLIES, 10,000 LAUNDRY SUPPLIES 3000 WITH PRODUCTION OF GROCERIES OF 23,000 BRIDGE PRECINCT.

ONE INCREASE UNIFORMS, 1000 WITH PRODUCTION CONTRACT LABOR BRIDGE.

THREE.

INCREASE SUPPLIES 2000 WITH PRODUCTION CONTRACT LABOR BRIDGE.

FOUR.

INCREASE CULVERTS 3000 WITH PRODUCTION OF EQUIPMENT.

UM, ADULT PROBATION AND SEX OFFENDER TREATMENT.

INCREASED RESIDENTIAL SERVICE.

7,700 WITH PRODUCTION OF NONRESIDENTIAL SERVICE AND 5,000 FROM CPS COUNTY COURTS AND LAW.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUES

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AND JUVENILE PROBATIONS ON THE STATE.

FIVE.

NINE FIVE.

SECURE PLACEMENT ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.

BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

ALL IN A MOTION.

CARRIED, I GUESS YOU'RE GONNA PASS OUT THE BILLS.

CYNTHIA.

CYNTHIA? MM-HMM .

ALL.

WE DON'T, HE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY THE WHOLE CONTRACT.

UCK WHILE THINKING ABOUT GOING UP AND GETTING, MR. LEMME DO A STORY ABOUT TO CUT HERE.

YOU SURE THIS IS MINE GOT THE, I GOT CREDIT.

YOU FINALLY SWITCHED THAT STUFF OVER TO FOUR.

NO, FOUR TWO, I GUESS I'LL GET YOU ONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

CREDIT WE PUT 9,000 IN.

TOOK 9,000 HERE? YEAH.

OKAY.

YOU'RE SAYING BACK UP .

I THOUGHT YOU COULDN'T HEAR .

SO YOU'RE PAYING 9,000.

WE GIVE YOU 9,000 CREDIT.

YOU SHOULD PAY 9,000.

WE GIVE YOU THOUSAND.

YOU WILL BE, BUT JUST MENTALLY HAD $8,000 FOR THAT.

[01:30:59]

YOU TOOK OUT.

YOU TOOK OUT.

SO THERE A SEPARATE DEAL.

THERE WAS A LOT OF MIS CONFUSE BETWEEN MY OFFICER.

WELL THE BEST THING PRECINCT.

SURE.

I DIDN'T SPEND $150,000.

I CAN GET ANY BILLS FROM THE WHAT? LOOKING AT IT, YOU NOTICE I'M KEEPING MY MOUTH SHUT.

CREDIT.

22 CENTS.

THAT'S A RECORD.

LIKE I SAY, BUILDING ERR.

I BET BUNCH.

FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THAT WAS THE KICKER.

I WENT HOME SICK THURSDAY AFTERNOON.

I WAS HOME BY TWO O'CLOCK AND SL BED AND I WOKE UP AT SIX 30 ON FRIDAY NIGHT.

OH IT IS LIKE I HAD NO METABOLISM ALL WEEKEND.

I DIDN'T SLEEP ALL WEEK.

I FELT LIKE A HIBERNATING BEAR.

I KIND OF LOOKED LIKE ONE, BUT YOU, YOU NOT GONNA HEAR HIM.

QUIT SMOKING LAST HOWEVER AND MADE IT ALL THE WAY TO ABOUT FIVE, SIX WEEKS AGO AND FELL OFF THE WAGON

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AND STARTED OFF, YOU KNOW, TAKING TWO DAYS TO PACK, SMOKE A PACK AND THEN NEXT THING I'M SMOKING A PACK A DAY AND NEXT THING I KNOW, WITHIN THE MONTH I'M SMOKING TWO PACKS.

YEAH.

I'VE BEEN SPENDING IT.

YEAH.

OH YEAH.

I THREW AWAY ABOUT THREE DAYS AGO.

I SAID, BECAUSE I WAS BACK UP TWO PACKS A DAY.

I COULDN'T BREATHE.

THERE'S ANOTHER BUSY, IT'S KIND OF FUNNY.

JERRY AND I, JERRY AND I INTERVIEWED HER, I THINK.

YEAH, WE INTERVIEWING YA.

YEAH.

WE INTERVIEWED ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE.

FOUR OR FIVE.

JUST WAIT AT LEAST.

YEAH.

I WAS LIKE, EVERYBODY SAID YOU WOULDN'T.

THAT'S THE ONE'S, OH, TAKE ONE MORE.

WELL, YOU, YOU WERE THERE AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE A SMILE.

YOU LOOKING STRAIGHT THAT WAY AND MUMBLE WOULD LOCK FIVE ME TOO.

I'VE NEVER SAID THAT.

DISCUSS ALL DAY.

AND YOU TOOK THE FIRST ONE.

SHE MIGHT BEEN, THEY MIGHT BEEN.

SHE MIGHT.

I'M CURIOUS 'CAUSE COUPLE ARE SCHEDULED ON MONDAY.

RESCHEDULE COMMISSION MEETING.

WE GONNA DO THEM ON TUESDAY.

I DON'T MIND YOU DO IT ON TUESDAY.

REALLY, REALLY LONG UP.

SUSPECT ACTUALLY MAKE WORK THAT WAY.

THERE IT WERE.

27, 21.

OH.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE DON, WHEN HE TOLD ME, I SIT THERE, AM I CORRECT AND ASK HIM THIS, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME, EVERY DIDN'T PAYCHECK WOULD BE 4.4% LESS.

IS THAT WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THEN IN RETURN FOR IF YOU SAID REAL FAST, THEY WON'T BOTHER YOU.

IN RETURN 4% LESS EXTRA HOLIDAY.

AM I DID I, SO I DID.

WELL HOW MUCH WOULD, HOW MUCH WOULD TWO, I KNOW IT LITTLE, NOT THE AMOUNT, BUT HOW MUCH WOULD TWO, 2 CENTS BE

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TO THE AVERAGE HOME? VERY LITTLE LICENSE.

$20 ON A HUNDRED THOUSAND HOME YEAR.

A YEAR.

AND ON A 200,000 HOME IS EVEN WORTH WOULD BE $40.

I MEAN IS IT WORTH, IS IT WELL THAT'S, IT'S NOW MINIMUM.

WELL THAT'S PERMANENT.

THIS HOPEFULLY IS JUST BY TAXES RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HOPING.

I WAS, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

YOU LIKE 2 CENTS.

THEY'RE THEY'RE SENDING ME STUFF SAYING WHY DO WE GOT THIS, WHY WE CUT THIS, THIS FOREST JOB.

AND THAT'S THAT'LL WE'RE THE ONLY ONE IN COUNTY STATE THAT'S PEOPLE COME TO COURT, DON'T COME TO COURT ABOUT THE LIBRARY.

WE'RE THE ONLY, ONLY ONE.

WE'RE THE ONLY COUNTING EVERY DAY.

I ONLY HAVE ONE STORY THE NEXT WEEK.

SO PAID FOR ME TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN HERE WHEN THEY WANT ME TO.

CAN'T THEY'RE GONNA TAKE A LITTLE PIECE BECAUSE Y'ALL OFF.

OKAY.

WELL YEAH.

OKAY.

THE WAY THEY BUNCHED UP SOME.

OH YEAH.

WELL Y'ALL, YEAH.

OH YEAH, YEAH.

I GOT, YEAH, I MISSED A COUPLE MINUTES.

SHOULD DIDN'T TAX PROPERTY OVER ADELAIDE.

THEY DIDN'T GIVE A NO BIG DEAL.

THE END OF MY STORY AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T GET IN.

YEAH.

WE'LL JUST MAKE PERCENT.

OKAY.

OVERALL WE'RE NOT INCREASING IT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AS LONG AS OVERALL WE DON'T INCREASE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PUBLISH.

IT'LL GO UP AND THEN WE GO DOWN.

IT'LL BE LESS THAN OKAY, BUT NOT 4.44% BUDGET.

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EXACTLY.

YOU'RE OKAY IF THEY CAN GET YOU UP THERE.

4% CUT.

WE'LL GET YOU UP.

WE'LL GET YOU UP 4%.

CUT.

YEAH.

I PAID MY FRESH AIR AND REMARKS FROM THE PUBLIC.

UH, I'M GOING BE A PUBLIC FOR A MINUTE.

UH, WANTED TO UH, POINT OUT THAT WHEN THESE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS COME TO YOU DRAFTING AND COMPLAINING, ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE FISTED WITH THEIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PEOPLE YET.

UH, WE GIVE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, CITY OF KAUFMAN, $20,000.

THEY GOT 80,000.

THEIR DISTRICT HAS 80,000 SITTING IN THE BANK.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HURT IT ALL.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOSE A PENNY.

SAME WAY WITH TERRO TERRELL OVER THERE.

AND MR. ESPOSITO, YOU MY GOOD FRIEND AND YOURS, UH, CALLED UP, JUST CHEWED ANGIE OUT ALL UP AND DOWN.

I HADN'T GOT HOOKED OF HIM YET, BUT I'M GOING TO.

HE'S GOT NO RIGHT TO CALLING UP CHEWING MY, UH, MY EMPLOYEES, UH, THEY'RE SITTING ANYWHERE FOR 75,000.

IS THAT JUST FOR THAT DISTRICT? YEAH.

IS THAT WHAT THAT'S JUST THAT DISTRICT.

SO WE GIVE THEM 20,000.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM THEM.

THEIR DISTRICT'S GOT 75,000.

ALL THEY GOTTA DO IS GIVE THEM 20 OUTTA THAT.

THIS IS KIM'S.

YEAH, THIS IS KIM.

KIM SITTING DOWN THERE WITH 55,000.

I HAVE ALL THAT DATA TOO.

I ALREADY, OKAY.

WELL I JUST, I JUST WANTED BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL GOING TO BE CONTINUE GETTING CALLS.

YEAH.

UH, BUT AND WHAT DOES HAVE MUCH, MUCH, I'M NOT SURE.

I'VE GOT RNS HERE.

WHAT DISTRICT? WHAT'S NUMBER DISTRICT IS ONE, FIVE OR SEVEN? BEAR WITH ME.

IT'S NOT SEVEN.

I DUNNO.

SEVEN.

ANYWAY, MY, MY POINT BEING OKAY, IS THAT, UH, UH, OH WAIT A MINUTE.

IS THIS CORRECT? 4,260 $9,000.

OH MY, THAT'S WHY CLARK MADE THE MOTION.

DOES THAT MONEY COST TAXES.

TAXES.

THAT'S THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

AND THAT PASSED ON TO THE FOR WE'RE PAYING.

YEAH.

BECAUSE AS LONG AS WE PAY THAT'S, GUESS SMALL CITIES NEED TO FIND.

ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO TO POINT THAT OUT TO Y'ALL.

SO WHEN THESE PEOPLE CALL, Y'ALL LIKE EDDIE BROWN AND THEN RAISING CALLS ME AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE AND TELL 'EM IN THE NEWSPAPER HOW SORRY THE COMMISSIONERS ARE BECAUSE THEY CUT TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I GOT CHANNEL FIVE CALLING ME.

REALLY? REALLY? NO, YOU GOTTA NEED SOME HELP WITH THE PUBLIC RELATIONS.

.

PAY THE BILLS.

WE'RE NOT OKAY.

COMMISSIONER JACKSON, ALL THESE FAVORS SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

UH, NEXT WEEK IS LABOR DAY.

WE'LL NOT BE MEETING NEXT MONDAY.

IT'LL BE TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY.

WE'LL MEET.

THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GONE.

WELL WE, WE UH, WE WERE TOLD TO SAY SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SEPTEMBER 30TH WILL BE THE DATE THAT WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET BACK THEN WE WILL MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT THE COMMISSIONERS, I'LL HAVE IT POSTED FOR YOU.

YOU CAN VOTE ON EACH INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEM, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF YOU WANT TO TWEAK THROUGH THE TRAVEL SOME AND SOME OF YOU WANT TO MAY TWEAK THE FIRE DISTRICTS OR WHATEVER.

UH, BUT ANYWAY, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT.

SO WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, LET PUBLIC TALK, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR DISCUSSION OF FINAL VOTE ON THE BUDGET.

AND THEN WE WILL SET THE TAX RATE THAT WE NEED TO DO THE BUDGET, WHICH IS GONNA BE EXACTLY THE

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SAME THING.

WHEN IS THAT JUDGE? IS THAT ON THE 30TH? SEPTEMBER 30TH.

YOU'LL BE BACK.

YEAH.

SIX.

JUDGE, IF THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE, I'M NOT GONNA GET IT DONE THAT DAY.

YEAH.

WELL THAT'S, DID THEY ADJOURN? DID THEY? OKAY.

WEDNESDAY.

UH, THAT'S IT.

WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE GOOD WEEKS.

AND, UH, WE ADJOURN.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SECOND BY ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A MOTION CARRIED.

AND WE'RE ADJOURNED.