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WE CAN GET.WE HAVE TO, IT HAS TO BE DONE TODAY.
WE GET IT DONE TODAY, BUT I THINK WE NEED AN OPPORTUNITY.
WELL, I KNOW WE GOTTA SIX GET THIS DONE.
JIM WAS ASKING WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE TAX AT SIX O'CLOCK.
YEAH, BUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS IF YOU DON'T DO IT BECAUSE, UH, PART OF THE STATUTE SAYS THAT, THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN HAVE ANY TIME GIVE BACK HIS PERCENTAGE.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN TAKE THE BUDGET AND FILL THE BUDGET LIKE IT IS WITH NO CUTS FROM ELECTED OFFICIAL.
WE APPROVE IT TODAY, MAYBE TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY, THE ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS THE OPTION TO, UH, GO IN AND JUST SEE YOU AND DONATE.
YOU TALKING ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE.
YOU DON'T, I MEAN THAT WHAT, WHAT MY POINT IS IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.
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WELL, THAT MOVE ONWELL, COMMISSIONER S GOT, GOT, GOT THE POINT THERE AND HE'S GOT THE LAW.
ANY, AT ANY POINT IN TIME, ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN GO TO THE TREASURY, GIVE HIM THE WRITTEN STATEMENT SAYING, I GIVE UP MY SALARY, OR I GIVE UP A HUNDRED IN MY SALARY.
I GIVE UP 4.44% OF MY SALARY AT ANY POINT IN TIME, THE ELECTED FISCAL CAN DO THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE REALLY DON'T NEED THE LETTER TODAY TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.
THE, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IT, WAS THE BUDGET THAT WAS FILED IN AUGUST, WAS IT? YES.
THE BUDGET THAT WAS FILED ANYHOW, UH, DID NOT HAVE ANY OF THE REDUCTIONS FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THAT THAT'S THE ONE THAT THAT WAS FILED.
BUT STILL DO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
MAKE THAT LETTER AND ASK ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL IF THEY WANT TO.
YEAH, I WON'T PUT SOME IMMEDIACY IF THEY CAN GET DO TODAY THOUGH, GETTING THE JPS AND CONSTABLES AND AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.
I, NOT EVERY, EVERYBODY, BUT YOU COULD DO THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? IF WE GET IT TODAY, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT TODAY.
COMMISSIONERS, THAT'S WHAT IT STRAIGHT ACROSS WHAT IT WAS.
EVERY CONSTABLE JUST MAKE A LIST OF AND JUST CHECK THEM OFF.
JUST CALL THEM AND ASK THEM MUCH THEY WANT OR NOT.
THAT MAKES THINGS A LOT CLEANER.
AND THEN DO WHAT RAY WANTS, COMMITMENT FROM EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL.
TAKE IT TO THE TREASURER AND LET THAT HAPPEN.
PAYROLLS TWO WEEKS FROM THE DAY.
THE NEXT PAID FAIR IS TWO WEEKS.
SO CORRECTION WOULD NEED TO BE MADE DURING THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WITH THIS, WITH THIS PERCENTAGE CUT.
WE RESTORED THE TWO COMMISSIONERS.
EVEN WITH THE OTHER TWO COMMISS, WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.
THAT DIFFERENCE IS STILL THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET FROM THAT POINT BETWEEN THE PLAYING GROUND WITH THE 4.44%.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T A WAGE BECAUSE WE HAD THE CUT.
WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT PROPER, WE CAN'T DO IT EITHER WAY.
SO IF WE PASS THAT INITIAL BUDGET, THAT DIFFERENCE WILL STAY THERE BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONERS.
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IT HAS TO.WELL, IS IT, DOES THAT HINGE ON THIS? THIS IS ABOUT JC AND MYSELF.
WELL, WHY COULDN'T WE BOTH JUST SAY, HEY, JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT WAS.
YOU COULD LEAVE IT LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR.
THAT'S THAT, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS IN THE BUDGET Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
WHAT WE MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE IS, IS IN THE BUDGET THAT'S FILED, AND THAT'S ALMOST EXACTLY 4%, PROBABLY 5% PROBABLY.
SO, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AND THE BUDGET FROM BE FILED IN AUGUST, YOUR SALARY IS DIFFERENT THAN THIS.
SAY, BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR BEFORE, HOW MUCH MORE? 3%.
SO IF PAST THE AUGUST 13TH BUDGET, THAT DIFFERENCE IS STILL THERE.
WE HAD IT FIXED IN THIS BUDGET BECAUSE WE WERE REDUCING THE 4%, GIVING IT BACK TO THEIR LEVEL WAS NOT RAISED.
BUT THEY CAN VOLUNTARILY GIVE IT UP.
THEY CAN VOLUNTARILY, VOLUNTARILY GIVE, UH, I DON'T MIND APPRO THAT OTHER BUDGET WITHOUT THAT IN THERE.
I I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR JC WHAT THE BUDGET HAS.
SOMETIMES IF IT'S NOT, WE NEED TO GO COLLECT THOSE PAYCHECKS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BUDGETED
BUT YOU'RE SAYING JUDGE, THAT WE, YOU THINK WE CAN APPROVE THAT BUDGET WITHOUT HAVING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, OPT IN OR OPT OUT.
AND THEN THEY CAN OPT OUT TOMORROW? THEY CAN OPT OUT NEXT WEEK AT ANY TIME.
IN JANUARY, I WOULD GET AS MANY AS POSSIBLE SIGNED.
I'M, I'M GONNA SIGN MINE TODAY BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING BACK AND TELL GUYS I 4% AND I DIDN'T TAKE, SHE'S BRINGING THEM IN.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT ONE OF MY PRIORITIES NEXT BE ONE 4% CALL COUNTY EMPLOYEE, THERE'S GONNA BE THE FIRST PRIORITY WE'RE GONNA HAVE NEXT YEAR WITH THAT.
WHAT OTHER ITEMS, ARE THERE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU WANNA BRING UP, UH, BEFORE WE TAKE THE MOTION ON THAT? UH, DAVID LEWIS SINCE, UH, BE DOING THE PROBATE, HOW DO YOU SPELL PROBATE? RIGHT.
I, UH, ANGIE'S BEEN DOING THAT JOB FOR FREE PROBATE 1 9 6 3 FOR FREE.
UH, YOU WAS LUCKY TO HAVE THAT.
YOU WANNA GIVE US A LITTLE SPEECH WHILE YOU NEED THIS, DAVID? IS THAT APPROPRIATE? UH, IT, IT IS, BUT I I MEAN EVERYBODY KNOWS HE'S, WELL, GO AHEAD.
I MEAN, DAVID NEEDS MONEY IN HIS BUDGET TO HELP WITH AN ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR.
WE, WE ONLY PUT A DOLLAR OR SO IN, AND SO WE NEED TO PUT MONEY IN THERE FOR AN ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR FOR JUDGE LEWIS.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS THAT, UH, A PROBATE JUDGE, ONLY JUDGE HAS PERSONAL LIABILITY IF THEY MAKE A MISTAKE.
AND SO DAVID COULD BE SUED PERSONAL LEAVE IF HE, IF HIS PERSON MAKES A MISTAKE.
SO IF, I MEAN, THEY CHOOSE, I WANT SOMEBODY, I WANNA HIRE SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO ANSWER FOR MELY RESPONSIBLE TO ME, KEEP BE OUTTA JAIL HE NEEDS,
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SO HE NOT ONLY NEED TO FUND IT FOR 75% BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.SO, UH, A $36,000 POSITION WOULD NEED TO FIND $24,200.
UH, I'VE, I'VE KIND OF FOUND THAT 24,200 WITH A COUPLE LINE ITEM CHANGES.
AND ONE OF 'EM WOULD INCLUDE IN YOUR OFFICE YOU HAVE A, A EXTRA HELP BUDGET MM-HMM
AND NOT ANYWAY, AND FURTHER, I GONNA IMPOSE ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR, FOR THE FIRST NEXT THREE MONTHS.
BUT, UH, BRUCE HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD, HE NOT NEED ANY EXTRA HELP HERE.
SO HE WOULD GIVE UP HIS 75% OF THAT.
I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION ASKING WHAT BRUCE? YEAH.
WHAT IS BRUCE GONNA DO WHEN, UH, ANGIE AND CASSIE ARE OFF AT THE SAME TIME, TOLD THE OFFICE OR I, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU KEEP SOME EXTRA HELP IN THERE.
THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE, UH, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T ANSWER THE PHONE AND HERE AND BE OFF MEETING AT SAME TIME.
I, I'M FINE WITH CUTTING IT BACK TO WHATEVER AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE.
YOU HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE WITH HOW MUCH EXTRA HELP IS USED.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'D RECOMMEND THAT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T CUT IT MORE THAN HALF WHATSOEVER.
I MEAN, I'D RECOMMEND YOU NOT CUT IT AT ALL, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THAT'S YOUR CALL ON THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE.
HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO USE THAT.
SO WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD WE, UH, PROPOSE TO USE FOR THAT? HOW MUCH WAS IN THE EXTRA BUDGET? ACTUALLY, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO FIND ANOTHER $24,000.
AND SO I WAS LOOKING AT DAVID'S, DAVID'S GOT, UH, $9,000 OR SO, RIGHT? NOT 10
I'D SAY PROBABLY SHOULD BE RETAIN 25 AFTER HIS, AFTER HIS 75%.
WHAT THESE OTHER SOUTHERN MIGHT GO WORK AT AT MINUTE, I GUESS.
OR HOW, WHAT, WHAT NUMBER DID WE COME UP WITH THERE? STILL WORKING ON IT.
THEY, AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS THE MONEY IN THE LINE ITEM, UH, I BELIEVE HE SAID YOU YOU ONLY NEEDED 36.
ACTUALLY, I, I KIND OF HAVE A PLAN A AND PLAN B.
MY PLAN A IS TO HIRE SOMEBODY FULL TIME, BUT IF, IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I, I'LL COME UP WITH SOMEBODY PART-TIME AND, UH, I I, I THINK IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH CAN BE MOVED AROUND AND I'M NOT, I, I REALIZE YOU'VE GOT THE TAKE AWAY FROM SOME LINE ITEM TO GIVE THAT TO ME.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING WHAT, WHAT NUMBER? YES, SIR.
JUDGE, I THINK THERE'S 36,000 COMMUNICATION BUDGET.
I GAVE UP MY CELL PHONE MONEY AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT 36,000.
SO I NEED THAT UP IN, IN MY COMMUNICATION IN THE, IN THE COMMUNICATION BUDGET.
NOT IN MY MIND, BUT I GAVE UP ALL MY 36,000.
SO THERE'S, BUT THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN AUGUST WHEN WE
WELL, WE, WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A SAVING THAN WE ALREADY ANTICIPATED.
WELL, WE ANTICIPATED 50% CUT FROM 200 TO 100.
WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THE SHERIFF GIVING UP ALL THE MONEY FOR THAT.
NOT, I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE LINE ITEMS, WE WERE FORECASTING A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THE MARKET.
BUT WHEN YOU GUYS DID YOUR BUDGET, WE STILL HAD COMMUNICATION LINE ITEMS THAT REMAINED
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IN THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS AND THE OTHER FUNDS.BUT STILL ALL, YES, FROM A DOLLAR TO CONSIDERATION, I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE TO REDUCE THAT LINE ITEM.
SO WE'LL TAKE 11 ONE THAT WAS FILED.
SO ANOTHER OPTION, ANOTHER OPTION TO, TO PASS MONEY IS THE OFFICE OF URBAN FORESTER HAS A BUDGET OF LIKE $50,000.
UH, I TALKED TO THE EXTENSION OFFICER ROUTE AND WE DON'T LET ANYBODY LOSE THEIR JOB TO MOVE HER SALARY CONDITION OVER AS A PARAPROFESSIONAL UNDER EXTENSION SERVICE.
UH, THE $28,000 WOULD GO TO THE EXTENSION SERVICE AND THEN REDUCE ALL THE LINE ITEMS THAT WERE DOWN THROUGH THERE WITH HER, UH, TRAVEL GAS, THINGS SUCH AS THAT AMOUNTED TO, UH, OH, I HAD ALL THOSE TO UP ABOUT ALL HER OTHER RAISES AND STUFF IN HERE.
YEAH, WE THAT SHE WAS OVER THERE AT ONE TIME.
THAT'S WHY SHE'S WHERE SHE'S AT NOW.
BECAUSE THEY, THEY CONFLICT WITH THEIR JOB.
THAT'S WHY SHE'S OVER WHERE SHE'S AT.
I'M, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THAT.
WELL, WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM SAY? DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE THEY CONFLICTED WITH THE WAY, THE WAY THEY WERE DOING THINGS.
RIGHT NOW, THE URBAN FOREST DOES CERTAIN THINGS.
THE EXTENSION SERVICE DOES OTHER THINGS, AND THEY WANTED TO USE HER AND THEY COULDN'T, SHE COULDN'T COORDINATE HER JOB AT THEIR JOB.
WELL, HOW ABOUT THE SHERIFF PROPOSAL THEN? HOW DOES THAT WELL, WE'RE GONNA TAKE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE 10,000 COMMUNICATIONS.
WE'RE WORKING ON, I I I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT, UH, URBAN FORESTER.
OH, IT'S GONNA GIVE Y'ALL, YOU GOT SIDETRACKED ON.
I'VE GOT MR. BAR LOOKING AT, UH, JUDGE, YOU SAID YOU COULD FUNCTION WITH PART-TIME.
WELL, REALLY, I THINK IT'S A FULL-TIME WORKLOAD, BUT I COULD, IF, IF ALL THE MONEY THAT I GET IS FOR A PART-TIME PERSON, I'LL, I'LL WORK FOR THAT.
BUT I WOULD PREFER, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROBLEM FINDING 36,000 FOR THAT LINE ITEM YOU DON'T WANT.
AND I, I WOULD EVEN THINK THAT YOU CONSIDER 39, 36, SIR.
NOW WITH, UH, WHAT SHERIFF AND, UH, MR. YORK WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, CAN HE SQUEEZE OUT 39 OUTTA THAT? NO, WHAT GEORGE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE, WE CAN PROBABLY TAKE 10 OUT, 10 OUT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE ALL THE SPECULATION REDUCE THE BUDGET FROM 201 FOR CELL PHONES.
ACTUALLY, IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN 100 BECAUSE THERE'S STILL ENOUGH FUNDS.
BUT SO WE ANTICIPATED THAT BIG DECREASE.
WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE WHAT THE SHERIFF DID WAS, WAS FANTASTIC FOR US.
AND THAT, THAT HE'LL TAKE CARE OF CELL PHONES ELSEWHERE OUT THE GENERAL BUDGET.
SO WE'RE THINKING MAYBE 10,000 OF THAT WOULD BE EASILY USEFUL.
UH, I WANT TO, DID I PASS OUT OR DID Y'ALL GET A COPY OF MR. MURPHY'S, UH, LETTER THAT HE SENT OUT SEPTEMBER 27TH? I DID, YES.
I THINK, UH, THIS CAN BE CONSIDERED TO AN EXTENT.
WHAT IS YOUR COMMENT ON THAT NOW ON MR.
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IN BUDGET AND WE INCREASED OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS.WHICH I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WRONG.
I MEAN, I HOPE WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME THINGS TO BASE IT ON MM-HMM
BUT, BUT, UH, I'M CONCERNED THAT IT MAY BE SOME OF THE SAME FUNDS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT HERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I THINK WE'RE ALREADY BEING OPTIMISTIC, BUT THAT'S YOUR GENTLEMAN'S CALL.
WE ALREADY ANTICIPATE SOME OF THAT.
IF I JUST WANTED TO AND, AND I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE INCREASED TAX COLLECTIONS, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ENTAILS IN, IN HIS MINIMUM.
IT WON'T HURT TO HAVE EXTRA MONEY.
THAT AS OPPOSED TO BEING SHORT, CERTAINLY WOULD'VE BEEN A CHANGE.
THE OTHER LETTER I PASSED OUT TO Y'ALL SHOWS, UH, COME UP.
I GUESS I MOVED FROM COMMISSIONER TO A COUNCILMAN.
ESTEEM COUNCILMAN TALKING ABOUT ALL GOOD THINGS THAT THEY FORESTER, UH, OFFICE DOES IS FROM THE TEXAS FOREST SERVICE, UH, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING THE PROGRAMS. SHE'S DOING A GOOD JOB.
I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE AN EXTENSION POTENTIAL SERVICE.
AND UNLESS SEE BACKGROUND THAT COMES SERVICE BLACK, HOW DO YOU UH, HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY AN OFFICE AND ONE TIME FOR TOUGH LIKE THIS, THAT WHEN SOMEBODY'S AT HOME YES.
SHOULD SHE HAVE AN OFFICE OR SOMEBODY SHE REPORTS TO, DON'T YOU? SHE REPORTS TO THE JUDGE.
DID SHE GIVE Y'ALL REPORT? QUARTER REPORT OR A MONTHLY REPORT? MONTHLY REPORT.
I MEAN, SHE TOUCHES SO MANY YOUNG KIDS.
WELL, SHE DOES A GREAT JOB WHAT SHE DOES.
WHY DO YOU WANT CHANGE SOMETHING? THAT'S GREAT.
20,000 OUTTA THAT AND PUT OVER FOR THE PROBATE PERSON.
I THINK YOU NEED TO SOMEBODY ELSE WITH 20, SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY OF FLORIDA WITH ALL THE THREE PROPERTIES HAD.
I I JUST, I I HATE TO CHANGE A VERY GREAT PROGRAM.
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH JIM ON THAT.
CLARK, BEFORE YOU WANTED TAKE, TAKE AWAY, YOU SAID IT SAVED 20 20,000.
WELL, THERE WAS, I WAS, I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO SCRUB THE BUDGETING IN THERE AND FIND MONEY THAT, UH, WITHOUT WE GET ANYMORE MONEY, MONEY SINCE WE HAD TO FIND SOME MORE MONEY FOR THE PROBATE PERSON.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE PLACE I WAS, 'CAUSE I DID GET, UH, YOU KNOW, IN ALL OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, NOT, NOT HERE, THAT I'VE HAD, THAT OFFICE SEEMED TO COME UP PRETTY BIG, UH, ALONG WITH THE SHERIFF BECAUSE THEY NATURALLY WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE THE TWO HOT TOPICS.
THE CONVERSATION, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT I I SAME NAME.
I DO GET THAT, THAT THAT'S WHY MY, WE START TALKING ABOUT BEING SHORTFALL.
THE FIRST PERSON I WENT TO TALK TO WAS THE SHERIFF.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT SHERIFF JAIL AND ROADING BRIDGE TO TAKE THE BIG CUTS.
WE START LOOKING FOR THE CUTS BECAUSE WE'RE THE BIGGEST USERS OF THE MONEY.
AND HOW MUCH COMES OUTTA THAT? YOU GET
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25 BUDGET, LIKE IT'S ON.WE HAVE A, SO YEAH, SO WE DON'T HAVE, SO RIGHT NOW WE,
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OH YEAH.MY PAPER, I DON'T HAVE TO PUT OUT THE PAPER ON TUESDAY.
SO IF SOMEONE COME IN AND SOMEBODY CAN TELL YOU, BUT COME TUESDAY, YOU PUT PAPER TUESDAY.
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THE NEXT TWO WEEKS I'M GONNA HAVE, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO FILE.SO, SO THE LIST WILL BE GOING DOWN AND I HAVE TO DO IT.
THAT'S MY SIDE OF THIS PROCESS.
THAT'S WHY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE YOU.
I ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER OVER COUNTY OF HIS CAMPAIGN.
SO I IN THE OFFICER'S OFFICE, OFFICE, HE, I KNOW,
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UH, I'M NOT SURE JUST ORDER, ORDER, UH, JUST GIMME SOME, SOME, JUST SOME GENERIC NO SAUCE.OH, YOU HORSES PLACE, THEY GOT SOMETHING CALLED A WEAK CHICKEN SANDWICH.
I HEARD SPICY HOT OR SOMETHING.
SOMEBODY THINK SOMEBODY RECOMMENDED TO ME TO MAKE IT BURN ME UP.
SO I'LL LET 'EM GET EVEN WITH WHATEVER I DID.
ONCE I GET THE BUDGET, WE IN COUNTY COURT OF LAW THE WAY IT'S RIGHT NOW.
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YEAH, THAT STAYS THE SAME.A LOT OF TIMES JUDGE I GO TO THE WHOLE COURT WITHOUT TAKING
UM, DID YOU KNOW THAT THAT ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE, UH, IN THE PUBLIC WORKS, SINCE THEY'RE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU CAN DO THAT ANYTIME THEN? IF HE HASN'T ANYTHING? I GUESS MAYBE HE'S FINE WITH WELL, I'M NOT TOO SURE THAT NOT FINE.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S HER CALL.
WHERE'S THE BOSS? YEAH, THERE, SHE'S KELLY.
I, I, I'M NOT, SHE, THAT'S THE WAY SHE WANTS TO RUN.
I, I WANT, I WANT KIND OF VEHICLES FROM MY TWO EMPLOYEES THAT, THAT WORK OUT AN ACCOUNT INSTEAD OF USING THEIR OWN VEHICLES.
AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO BOTH THEM ABOUT IT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN A PRECINCT ONE AND FILL OUT, RIGHT?
WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S CENTRAL PLACE AND OH, BUT IT'S GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP CREDIT.
I MEAN YOU'RE GONNA KEEP DOWN.
YEAH, IT'S, I'VE STILL GOT, BECAUSE WE GOT, I'VE GOT THE GAS KEY FROM MY CAR.
IT'S GOING TO STEVE STEVE'S ALREADY TALKED TO COMMISSIONER JACKSON ABOUT USING GAS THERE AND THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
BUT I'VE STILL GOT THE THAT KEY.
I'LL OBVIOUSLY GIVE YOU ANOTHER ONE SO THEY CAN USE YEAH.
THAT KEY AUTOMATICALLY, CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO YOUR R ROAD BRIDGE MONEY IF THEY COME GET THEIR GAS IN? NO, NO.
THEY'LL PAY US BACK FOR BEEN TAKING CARE OF IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, I CAN'T BELIEVE Y SO ABOUT THIS SUPPOSED TO, UH, OKAY, WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION.
WE'VE GOT THE LAW, SOME, THE LAWS THAT PERTAIN WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING.
UH, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, THIS IS THE 2011, IT WAS AUGUST THE 13TH WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CON CODE.
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THIS? ONLY THOSE FEW CORRECTIONS THAT, UH, POWELL GAVE US.
NOT FIVE, NOT FIVE, NOT, NOT FIVE.
WHICH BRINGS UP THE QUESTION, AND I DUNNO WHAT Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE 36,000 AND UH, YES.
JUST TECHNICAL QUESTION BETWEEN AND I OH, OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT IT SUPPOSED, RIGHT? IT DEPENDS ON 24.44% OUT.
IS THAT OUT OF LOOSE SALARIES OR JUST 1, 1 12.
HOW DID YOU GET THAT? YES SIR.
ANY QUESTION? YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION WITH YOU.
THE SHERIFF HAD WHY WE CUT HIS REGULAR REPAIR BUDGET WHEN HE HAD SPENT $25,000 AND I COULDN'T REMEMBER THE ANSWER TO THAT.
START WITH, UH, LOOKING BACK HERE, IT APPEARS THAT, UH, WHAT, BUT WHEN WE HAD THE BUDGET, UH,
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MARCH 31ST ALL SPENT LIKE 3,200.AND SO I GUESS THAT'S WHY WE CUT THAT BACK DOWN WITH THE BED.
WE CUT IT, BUT HE PROBABLY SPENT 25,000 AND WE CUT IT.
THAT CONVERSATION, WE, WE WENT BY THE, UH, I REMEMBER WE WENT BY THE TRIBULATION THAT WE ASKED THE AUDITOR TO DO.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE TRANSLATED TO THAT WAS THROUGH JULY.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS COMPANY MORE THAN, THAN THE EXPENSES WERE THE YEAR BEFORE.
WE ABOUT YEAR DATE EXPENDITURE.
WHAT, WHAT YEAR DATE EXPENDITURE.
AND THEN INTERPOLATED THAT OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE, ANY QUESTION? UH, YOU AT AN APOLOGY, IT APPEARS THAT, UH, IT MAY HAVE BEEN GRANDSTANDING WHILE AGO.
IT WASN'T MY INTENTION TO GRAND, EXCUSE ME, TO GRANDSTAND WAS MY INTENTION.
JUST MAKE MY PERSONAL FEELINGS NOW.
AND I FOLLOW OUT TO ALL OFFICIALS.
IF I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT TO SIGN THAT THING WE LEFT YOU TODAY, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A REQUIREMENT.
I THINK YOU SHOULD BE DOING THAT.
YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO WITH IT.
AND IF I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT FOR IT, I APOLOGIZE.
COMMISSIONER CLARK, I THINK, I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
I MEAN, THE COUNTY'S IN A SITUATION NOW WHERE EVERYBODY HAD TO DO WHAT THEY CAN.
AND I, I'D TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT, UH, THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND, AND ALSO THE OFFICIALS TAKE THE MONEY OF BALANCING THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR OUT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF WHAT THEY SAY.
EVERYBODY MADE GREAT SACRIFICE.
SOME HAVE MADE IT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO.
SOME HAVE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO.
BUT, UH, THE COUNTY HAS STEPPED UP TO TRY TO BOUNCE THIS BUDGET IN LIEU OF TAXES.
WE COULD HAVE BOUNCED THE BUDGET FOR RAISING TAXES.
SO FAR WE'VE THROWN THIS WAY ON THE BACK OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
SO I WOULDN'T ASK THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE TO DO ANYTHING THAT, THAT I WOULD DO.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS GRANDSTANDING.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU FELT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
I, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT AND I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT NOBODY LIKES IT, BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS NECESSARY.
UH, IT WAS THE RAISE TAXES OF THAT, UH, NEXT YEAR MAY BE A WHOLE NOTHER STORY.
UH, IF WE'RE IN THE SAME SHAPE AGAIN NEXT YEAR, WHICH WILL HOPE WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AT THAT TIME.
BUT I THINK ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED TO SEARCH THEIR SOUL TO SEE, UH, IF THEY'RE GONNA ASK THEIR EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS AND THEY'LL NOT DO THAT.
SO, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THEM, THAT'S THEIR PERSONAL DECISION.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? I'D OPEN IT UP FOR A MOTION.
I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE BUDGET THAT WAS FILED AUGUST 13TH, UH, AND BEEN ON FILE AND HAS BEEN ON FILE SINCE THEN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE FEW LITTLE ITEMS THAT HAL HAS GIVEN US.
NOBODY'S GONNA SECOND, SECOND.
NOW WE'LL, UH, OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR THE FISCAL OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011.
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GENERAL OPERATING FUND 0.4717, ROAD BRIDGE, MAINTENANCE FUND 0.0488 INS RATE 0.0360.TOTAL TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2010 2011.
I ENTERTAIN MOTION TO ENTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
IS THERE A SIGN? THERE'S A SIGN UP SHEET THERE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THE TAX RATE.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO SIGN UP AND SPEAK ON THE TAX RATE? I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
I'VE BEEN ON THIS COURT ALMOST EIGHT YEARS WHEN I, WHEN I CAME ON THIS COURT, WE GOT 11 CENTS.
THAT'S $110 FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO FIX YOUR ROADS.
THIS, THIS AMOUNT RIGHT HERE IN EIGHT YEARS HAS WENT DOWN TO $48 PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES TO FIX YOUR ROAD.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE? WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT A DOLLAR WE DON'T SPEND TODAY IN OUR BUSINESS COULD COST US THREE NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE, BUT I CAN'T GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S OFFICE AND HAR ON THEM.
BEING MORE EFFICIENT TO MY OFFICE IS EFFICIENT AS IT CAN BE.
OUR OFFICE IS GONNA BE EFFICIEN.
I'M NOT TOO SURE WE CAN MAKE IT.
WE'RE GONNA, WE GONNA TRY AND THE GOOD THING IS WE MAY FIND OUT WE CAN GET BY WITH THIS.
IT IS GONNA, I I'M OPTIMISTIC WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
BUT, UH, THAT MANY WELL, WHEN YOU REDUCE YOUR BUDGET BY 300% AND OIL AND GAS AND DIESEL LAST GOT 400%.
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PICTURE.
WHEN I CAME IN IT WAS 28 A BARREL AND NOW IT'S, UH, 78.
IT STILL TAKES THE SAME AMOUNT TO FIX IT.
UH, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXIT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO BACK
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TO OUR REGULAR MEETING.MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SERVING BY COMMISSIONER.
OKAY, BACK IN OUR REGULAR MEETING, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, SET THE TAX RATE ACCORDING TO WHAT I SAID WHILE AGO.
SO A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROW, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
UH, WHAT HAS TO BE READ IS I MOVE THAT PROPERTY TAXES BE SET BY THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE OF GENERAL OPERATING FUND 0.4717 ROAD AND BRIDGE, MAKING THIS FUND 0.0488 INS RATE 0.0360 TOTAL TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2010 2011 0.5565.
THIS TAX RATE WILL NOT RAISE MORE TAXES FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION THAN LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE.
AND THE TAX RATE WILL RAISE TAXES FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS ON A HUNDRED THOUSAND HOUR HOME BY APPROXIMATELY 0.000.
TAX RATE, THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER DEAL I NEED.