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I WAS KIND OF SLACKING THE LAST PART OF LAST.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL COME TO ORDER NOW.
I'LL ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON AND FIELD OPEN THIS UP THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN ON US AND BLESS US.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN ON COMMISSION COURT AND BLESS IT.
BLESS THE GENTLEMAN SUCCESS ON THIS COURT.
BLESS US IN OUR DECISION THAT WE'LL BE MAKING TODAY.
AND FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN ON OUR GREAT COUNTRY, BLESS THE LEADERS OF THIS COUNTRY.
LOOK DOWN UPON OUR TROOPS THAT ARE OVERSEE, BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEM IN A, A PROTECTION CIRCLE.
THEN FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BRING THEM HOME SAFELY.
ALL THIS WE ASKING OUR SON JESUS IGI, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION KNOWING GOD AND INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
IGI SEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE UNDER INDIVIDUAL.
Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROVIDED COPY OF THE MINUTES OF 27TH OF SEPTEMBER.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS, JUDGE CORRECTIONS, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER D SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
YOU'VE ALSO BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF 30 SEPTEMBER WHEREIN WE APPROVE THE BUDGET AND SET THE TAX RATE.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER D.
JUDGE, UH, CAN I ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE? YES.
CAN I HAND SOMETHING OUT? YEAH.
WHAT THAT IS, IS, UH, A LETTER ON THE BRIDGES.
REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE BRIDGES? MM-HMM
I GAVE THAT ESTIMATE TO BRENDA AT THE
UH, AND THAT, IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE AMOUNT THAT WILL COVER OUR $95,000 COMMITMENT, WE ALL NEED TO DO ONE OF THESE ON THOSE, THE TWO BRIDGES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
IF HE DONE THIS, THEN THAT'S A DONE DEAL ANYWAY.
THE PERCENT I CHECK WE CHECK INTO THAT, I DON'T KNOW THE CORRECT ANSWER.
HAVE YOU JUST HAVE ONE THAT PROBABLY WON'T BE DONE UNTIL 20 11, 20 12.
UM, THAT BOOK REALLY GAVE ME, HELPED A LITTLE BIT.
I CAN MADE A LOT EASIER TO, UH, PUT SOME NUMBERS REALLY LONG.
SO YOU NEED TO JUST CHECK ON AND SEE IF I, IF YOU NEED ESTIMATES ON THOSE.
THIS IS, UM, THIS, UM, EMAIL THAT, UH, THAT WE GOT JUST PASSING INFORMATION ON.
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OKAY.FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET KATHY FOR, UH, UNTIL I GET THESE OTHER THINGS IN LINE.
KATHY, YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH KAMAN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MESQUITE TO REGULATE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF ON ONSITE SERVICE FACILITIES AND RESPOND TO COMPLAINTS REGARDING ON ONSITE SERVICE FACILITIES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE AREA OF THE CITY OF MESQUITE IN KAMAN COUNTY.
UH, IT'S JUST A CIVIL INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
WE HAVE IT WITH ALL THE CITIES THAT HAVE SEPTIC SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTY.
UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS IN ORDER TO REGULATE THE ON ONSITE SERVICE FACILITY PROGRAM IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
THE CITY OF MESQUITE DOES NOT WANT TO MESS WITH IT BECAUSE KAUFFMAN COUNTY'S THE ONLY PLACE THEY'VE GOT SEPTIC SYSTEMS. AND SO THEY AGREED TO SIGN THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND WE JUST NEED TO FORMALIZE IT WITH OUR SIGNATURES.
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION ON SUBDIVISIONS.
ARE, ARE THERE ANY ETS ARE THERE IN YOUR AREA, IS IT, IS THERE A SOMETHING THAT P TJS WITHIN THE FORM, UH, YOUR AREA THAT YEAH, HE, WHEN THEY, WHEN ANN HAD ENTERED, THEY WENT FIVE MILES OUT FROM THEIR CITY LIMITS AND SAID THE EXTEND CEILING HERE AND LEFT, YOU MUST HAVE WENT ABOUT FIVE MILES FROM THAT, FROM
THE ETJ RIGHT NOW APPROXIMATELY COMES TO, UH, INTERSECTION 25 78.
IS IT 9 78 9 9 9 7 7 ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN 25 7.
CLOSE TO PARALLEL 25 7 8 FOR WHY THAT, WHY IS MESQUITE ET DOWN? DOES THAT MEAN WE NEED AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT ON SUBDIVISIONS WITH THEM BEFORE NEW CONSTRUCTION? IF SOMEBODY STARTS A NEW SUBDIVISION? WE SHOULD HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE, I DUNNO IF WE DO OR NOT.
NO, THERE'S NOTHING, I DUNNO IF THEY HAVE ONE.
I THINK THERE WAS ONE IN PLACE PRIOR BECAUSE THEIR ETJ ALREADY CAME OUT THERE FROM YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
I WILL DOUBLE CHECK ON AND KATHY'S BEEN TALKING WHILE THEY TRYING TO GET DO THIS TO, THEY KIND OF, WELL, I FINALLY HAD TO SEND HIM A LETTER SAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT ANYMORE.
I SENT A LETTER TO THE MAINTENANCE COMPANIES THAT HAVE THE ACTUALLY SERVICE AEROBIC SYSTEMS THERE INTO THE STATE TO TCQ AND SAID THAT WE CAN'T DO IT 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.
SO ONE, THESE PEOPLE STARTED CALLING THE CITY OF MESQUITE TO KNOW WHERE THEY SEND THE REPORTS, WHERE THEY GET A PERMIT FROM.
THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO DECIDE
I'LL MOVE TO ION MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
ER, ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR IN FAVOR? I A MOTION CARRIES.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO SKIP NOW TO THE ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA, UH, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON AN ORDER AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF CA COUNTY, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS SERIES TWO 10 AUTHORIZING CERTAIN PARAMETERS FOR BONDS AUTHORIZING THE REDEMPTION PRIOR TO THE PURITY OF CERTAIN OUTSTANDING OBLIGATIONS AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE OR COUNTY AUDITOR TO APPROVE THE AMOUNT, THE INTEREST RATE, PRICE TERMS THEREOF AND CERTAIN OTHER PROCEDURES AND PROVISIONS THERE AUTHORIZING THE CURRENT REFUNDING OF CERTAIN OUTSTANDING OBLIGATIONS AND THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF AN ESCROW AGREEMENT AND, AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDER.
UH, WE HAVE TWO GENTLEMEN WITH US THIS MORNING.
MR. GEORGE WILFORD FROM FIRST SOUTHWEST AND MR. TOM POLLAN FROM THE DAFF LAW FIRM.
JIM, DID Y'ALL COME UP AND, UM, UH, SEE IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
IT LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WHEN, UH, INTEREST RATES ARE GOING DOWN AND DOWN, AND IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS SINCE WE, UH, ISSUED THE COS ON THE JAIL THAT, UH, IT MIGHT BE TIME TO DO A LITTLE REFINANCING AND, UM, IF WE CAN SAVE THE COUNTY SOME MONEY, MONEY THROUGH THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
JUDGE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COURT, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE, UH, BACK WITH YOU.
UH, I'M GEORGE WILKER WITH FIRST SOUTHWEST COMPANY, AND I PASSED OUT
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SOME INFORMATION.UH, UH, THAT'S, UH, MORE OR LESS A SUMMARY OR ABBREVIATED, UH, PRESENTATION REGARDING WHAT THE, UH, JUDGE INDICATED.
UH, WITH INTEREST RATES DROPPING SO LOW.
UH, A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WERE DONE, UH, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO IN THIS CASE.
THE 2002, UH, ISSUE FOR THE JAIL, UH, HAS BECOME APPARENT THAT, UH, GOOD PROSPECTS FOR SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS BY REFUNDING.
THAT'S KIND OF THE BOND TERMINOLOGY, BUT IT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN REFINANCING.
UH, A BOND ISSUE IS, UH, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL IN THEIR HOME MORTGAGE.
AND WHEN INTEREST RATES DROP, UH, AND YOU'VE GOT THE DEBT RUNNING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, IT MAKES SENSE TO REFINANCE, TAKE ADVANTAGE, AND ACHIEVE SAVINGS.
UH, IN THE BOOK THAT I HANDED OUT, THE FIRST PORTION MENTIONS, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A PARAMETER BOND SALE, AND I'LL LET MR. POLLAN EXPLAIN IN MORE DETAIL IN A MOMENT, KIND OF THE PROCESS AND SO ON.
BUT, UH, A COUPLE OF SESSIONS AGO THAT THE LEGISLATURE ACTUALLY GAVE, UH, ALL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, UH, NOT JUST COUNTIES, BUT SCHOOLS, CITIES AND SO ON WITH REGARD TO REFUNDING ISSUES, THE ABILITY TO, UH, DO A PARAMETER TYPE SALE.
AND IN THAT CASE, THE COURT AND TOM'S GOT THE DOCUMENTS DRAWN.
THE ACCORDINGLY WOULD, UH, AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF THE REFUNDING BONDS AND ESTABLISHED PARAMETERS, UH, THAT HAVE TO BE MET FOR THOSE BONDS TO BE SOLD AT THE SUBSEQUENT, UH, POINT IN TIME.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE SAVINGS, BUT THEN DELEGATING TO, UH, THE JUDGE AND THE COUNTY AUDITOR, UH, EITHER ONE OF THEM IS PRICING OFFICER, THE ABILITY TO, TO PROVE WHEN THE TIMING AND SO ON WAS SUCH THAT, THAT HE COULD PROCEED WITH SALE.
AND THAT'S DISCUSSED ON, UH, PAGES.
UH, UH, ONE, UH, OF THE, UH, UH, OR PAGE ONE, TWO, UH, FOR PARDON THREE AND FOUR IS THE WAY, THE NUMBER OF THE, UH, BOOK, UH, AND SO ON.
AND THE PRIMARY ADVANTAGE IS, UH, THAT WAY THE REFINANCING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TIED TO A POINT IN TIME WHEN THE COMMISSION COURTS MEETING, UH, AND SO ON.
ONCE YOU, UH, DELEGATE AND GIVE THAT APPROVAL TODAY IF ALL CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT, LIKE I SAID.
NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE IS GIVEN TWO EXAMPLES.
UH, IF YOU'LL TURN, AND THE NUMBERS WERE LABELED SIX AND SEVEN, AND PAGE SIX IS REALLY INDICATIVE OF WHERE INTEREST RATES, UH, ARE, UH, CURRENTLY WITH REGARDS, UH, TO THIS ISSUE AND THE SAVINGS AND SO ON.
AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, UH, IF INTEREST RATES ARE OR THOSE LEVELS, UH, THE COUNTY WOULD BE ABLE TO SAVE SLIGHTLY OVER 80,000 A YEAR AVERAGE, UH, UH, THROUGH 2022.
THAT'S THE LAST YEAR OF THE LIFE OF THOSE BONDS.
AND THE REFINANCING DOESN'T EXTEND THE MATURITY OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S JUST TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF SAVINGS YEAR TO YEAR.
AND IN THIS CASE, THE TOTAL WOULD BE AROUND 977,000 OVER THAT PERIOD.
IN THE RED, YOU SEE, UH, NUMBER 5.88%.
TYPICALLY WE MEASURE REFUNDINGS IN TERMS OF PRESENT VALUE, UH, SAVINGS AS A PERCENT OF THE, IN THIS CASE, 13,740,000 THAT WOULD BE REFINANCED OR REFUNDED.
AND THAT 5.88 IS A VERY GOOD LEVEL THAT, UH, UH, TO BE HIT WITH REGARD TO THE PARAMETER, IF YOU'LL TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE, THIS JUST SHOWS WHAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED AND WHAT I BELIEVE TOM HAS PUT IN, UNLESS THE COURT DESIRES TO CHANGE IT.
UH, AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM OF PARAMETER OR SAVINGS THAT HAS TO BE MET.
AND IN THIS CASE, WE'VE USED THE 3% PRESENT VALUE.
AND WITHIN OUR INDUSTRY AND BUSINESS, THAT'S A COMMONLY ACCEPTED, UH, LEVEL.
YOU CAN HIT 3% PRESENT VALUE OR MORE.
IT MAKES SENSE OR JUSTIFIES, UH, PROCEEDING WITH REFINANCING.
AND OF COURSE, IN THIS CASE, YOU SEE THE SAVINGS YEAR TO YEAR WON'T BE AS LARGE IF THAT'S ALL THAT COULD BE HIT.
UH, THERE'D BE A LITTLE OVER 40,000 A YEAR, ABOUT 513,000.
BUT STILL, LIKE I SAID, ON A PRESENT VALUE BASIS, 3% OF THAT 13,000,740.
AND LIKE I SAID, ONCE WE GET THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT IN PLACE,
OTHERWISE, WE'D BE TALKING WITH THE JUDGE AND OR HOW, AS FAR AS CONDITIONS OR LIKE THIS, DO YOU AGREE THAT WE EITHER MOVE FORWARD OR, OR WAIT A FEW DAYS AND MONITOR, UH, IT'LL BE A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN REALLY DETERMINE THAT YES, WE NEED TO DO IT, OR NO, WE NEED TO WAIT.
'CAUSE THE PARAMETER AUTHORIZATION IS GOOD FOR UP TO SIX MONTHS AND SO ON.
ONE THING THAT I FAILED TO MENTION, AND THEN I'LL
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LET TOM EXPLAIN THE PROCESS, UH, IS, UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN UNDERWRITER THAT ACTUALLY SELLS MARKETS, THE BONDS.AND, UH, UH, I TALKED WITH THE JUDGE AND, AND MY RECOMMENDATION WAS THE SOUTHWEST SECURITIES, UH, GOOD FIRM.
UH, AND WE DO A LOT OF BUSINESS, MAKE WORK WITH A LOTS OF NORTH TEXAS ENTITIES AND, UH, UNDERWRITING AND SO ON.
THE, THE, UH, SENIOR MANAGER FOR ISSUE.
IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE COURT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR JUST LET TOM EXPAND AND EXPLAIN THE PROCESS TO YOU.
OTHERWISE, ANY QUESTIONS UNTIL, YES SIR.
WHAT IF, UH, UNDER I SEE OUR CURRENT RATES THERE WERE WOULD BE BANNED FROM 4.14 AND 8% TO 5%.
WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED, UH, CURRENT MARKET? WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT INTEREST RATES EVEN OUT TO 2022, UH, ARE STILL UNDER 4%.
UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S WHAT'S CALLED A SCALE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE SHORTEST MATURITY, UH, IS VERY LOW.
AND THEN YEAR TO YEAR EACH MATURITY IS A LITTLE HIGHER.
WE'RE SEEING THE SHORTER MATURITIES BE UNDER 1%, AND, AND AFTER THAT 22, 20, 22 RANGE, UH, BE SLIGHTLY UNDER FOUR AS FAR AS THE MAXIMUM FINAL MATERIAL.
SO, UH, SIGNIFICANT, UH, SAVINGS, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS WHEN THE ORIGINAL ISSUE WAS SOLD, YOU'RE SELLING KIND OF THE BACK END OF WHAT WAS ON THE YIELD CURVE, AND NOW WE'RE MOVING BACK DOWN AND RATES IN FACT LOWER.
SO, SO WHAT DO, WHAT THE, UH, AT THE CURRENT RATE FOR THOSE IN 2013 BE FOUR AND 8%? YOU SAY YOU GET THAT DOWN IN THE ONE PERCENTILE RANGE.
THE SHORTER MATURITIES OVERALL, THE, THE WHAT WE CALL EFFECTIVE GRADE OR TRUE INTEREST COST RATE WOULD PROBABLY BE ALL IN SLIGHTLY UNDER 4%.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR THE, FOR THE OVERALL ISSUE, THE AVERAGE EFFECTIVE RATE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GEORGE NOW? YES, GEORGE.
THE, UH, ESTIMATED SAVINGS, DOES THAT INCLUDE AN ESTIMATED UNDERWRITING FEE OR, YES, SIR.
IN REFUNDING ALL OF THE COST OF ISSUANCE, THE UNDERWRITERS, THE COMPENSATION AND SO ON, ARE BUILT INTO THE ANALYSIS, UH, SO THAT THERE'S NOT ANY OUT OF POCKET OR EXTRA COST.
SO ALL OF THE SAVINGS THAT I SHOWED YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH REFINANCING.
SO THE SAVINGS WOULD BE NET TO THE COUNTY, WHATEVER CAN BE ACHIEVED.
THAT'S NET SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY.
THE PROCEDURE ON PARAMETER SALES THAT YOU AUTHORIZED THE BOMB ORDER THE SAME AS YOU, YOU WERE ISSUING NEW MONEY, EXCEPT ON THIS ONE, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT BLANKS THAT YOU'RE DELEGATING TO THE PRICING OFFICER TO EITHER BE THE COUNTY JUDGE OR COUNTY AUDITOR.
WHEN THE MARKET GETS SET AND YOU GET TO GO AHEAD AND YOU SAY, PROCEED THAT SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS, THEN AS OF THAT DATE, GEORGE WILL GIVE US WHAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE AS HE'S ABLE TO SELL THE BONDS TO THE UNDERWRITER.
WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PRICING CERTIFICATE IN EITHER, UH, THE JUDGE OR HAL WILL EXECUTE THAT AND WE WILL HAVE IT COMPLETED SALE.
IF THESE THINGS, THIS, THIS RATE CHANGES MOMENTARILY.
IF YOU SAY NOW, FIVE MINUTES LATER, IT MAY NOT BE, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT A, THE FLOOR IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 3% PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OR WE WILL NOT RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO AHEAD WITH IT BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY, NOT TO GEORGE OR ME OR ANYBODY ELSE WORKING TO PUT A DEAL TOGETHER.
WE WANT THE COUNTY TO HAVE THE SAVINGS, SO WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND UNDER THE COURT PROCEED.
I THINK IT WAS FRIDAY, IT WAS 3.76.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SAVING.
I THINK IT BE FOOD IS NOT DOING
YEAH, WITHOUT, SO IT COULD FLUCTUATE FROM 500 TO 900,000.
WHETHER IT DOES 3% UP TO 5.8 AND IT COULD BE HIGHER THAN THAT.
IT RATES WORD OF DROP AND SO ON.
UH, AS WAS SAID, THE RATES HAVE STAYED AND, AND EVERYBODY IS PROJECTING THAT FORESEEABLE THEY'RE GONNA STAY LOW.
SO THAT'S WHY SINCE WE CAN GET THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT, THE RATING IN PLACE, THEN WE WOULD CONSULT WITH THE JUDGE OR FEES ABSENT, HOW TO SAY,
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IS EVERYONE AGREED THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, OR NOT? AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GEORGE WILL MONITORING CONSTANTLY, ESPECIALLY AS WE GET TOWARD AN ELECTION, THINGS START HAPPENING.AND SO IF YOU GET A REAL BENEFIT, HE'LL BE ON THE PHONE SAYING, WE NEED TO GO.
NO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLLER.
NEXT ITEM IS, UH, MR. GEORGE YORK, UH, TO DISCUSS CONSIDER THE RISE WIRELESS AND SALT COUNTY'S ERIC CARD PROVIDER.
AS WE CONTINUE TO CONSOLIDATE, REDUCE COSTS OF COMMUNICATIONS, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES COME UP.
UM, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST WEEK IS, UM, THE SHERIFF SENT A LETTER TO THE IT COMMITTEE AND ADVISED US THAT HE'S PULLING ALL OF HIS CELL PHONES OUT OF, UM, NO LONGER WILL BE PAID FOR BY COUNTY FUNDS.
SO IMMEDIATELY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SAVINGS, UM, OF THE COST FOR 72 PHONES.
SO THAT REALLY MAKES A BIG IMPACT, UH, ON OUR COMMUNICATIONS BUDGET.
AND, UM, IT REALLY BRINGS IT DOWN TO, UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE FOLKS.
WE HAVE 30, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE PHONES FOR THE DPS.
WE PROVIDE, UH, ALL THE CONSTABLES AND FIRE COMBINED IS ABOUT 19 PHONES.
ADULT PROBATION, WHICH WE DON'T PAY FOR.
THEN WE HAVE SMALL, LIKE THE DA HAS FIVE AND THE EXTENSION OFFICE, I DON'T, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE A PASS THROUGH OR NOT.
THE COUNTY, THE COURTHOUSE, THE ANNEX, THE SOUTH CAMPUS COMBINED, ALL THREE OF THOSE HAVE ONLY 14 OF WHICH THREE WILL BE CUT OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE AIR CARS.
AND THEN THE LAST WOULD BE RUN BRIDGE, WHICH IS, UH, 67.
SO WE'VE GREATLY REDUCED OUR TOTAL COUNT OF PHONES AND, UH, I THINK THE IMPACT WILL BE ALMOST 30,000 BY THE SHERIFF TAKING ALL THESE OFF.
THE NEXT THING WE'RE GONNA DO TO REDUCE COSTS WILL BE AIR CARDS.
WE FOUND A LOT OF FOLKS HAD SMALL, UH, ACCOUNTS WITH AIR CARDS THAT WERE VERY PRICEY.
WE FOUND THAT THE MOST SECURE AND MOST ECONOMICAL AND WITH THE BEST SUPPORT IS VERIZON WIRELESS.
UH, CAPTAIN
AND PROBABLY THE MAJOR REASON IS WHEN YOU HAVE AN INTERNET PRESENCE, WHETHER YOU'RE HOME ON YOUR PC OR ON ON A LAPTOP, YOU HAVE AN INTERNET PROTOCOL OR IP ADDRESS.
WHAT WE DO IS WE SECURE OUR NETWORK BY KNOWING WHERE THESE IP ADDRESSES ARE WITH VERIZON WIRELESS.
THIS SERVICE PROVIDED NO ADDITIONAL COST.
ALL THE OTHER PROVIDERS COST MORE.
THE AIRTIME UNLIMITED WITH VERIZON IS THE BEST PRICE.
AND THEIR GOVERNMENT TEAM THAT, UH, MANAGES THE CARDS, UH, IS OUTSTANDING.
SO WE, WE'D LIKE TO GO WITH RISE, SIR.
WHEN, WHEN WE STARTED FIRST TALKING WITH, I WENT AND LOOKED AT AT MY USAGE MM-HMM
UH, I HAVE SOME AT A THOUSAND HOURS.
THE ONES WHO TALK ALL THE TIME AND DOWN TO, TO ME WHO DON'T UP SO MUCH, 300 HOURS.
AND I NOTICED THAT THERE'S A FEW OF 'EM THAT PROBABLY NEED TO CHANGE IF WE DON'T.
WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW WITH HALLE AND JACK IS WE'RE, WE'RE RECEIVING QUOTES FROM THE THREE PROVIDERS AND WE'RE GONNA CONSOLIDATE NOT ONLY THOSE PHONES, BUT WHERE WE BE.
FOR EXAMPLE, WITH DPS, WE PROVIDE AT T PHONES FOR DPS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF SMALLER, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT RUN AT T ALSO, WE'RE GONNA TAKE 'EM ALL AND PULL, GET POOL MINUTES AND REDUCE THE COST WAY DOWN.
SO ON YOUR CASE, WHEN WE TAKE YOUR MINUTES AND PULL 'EM AND REDUCE THE COST WITH EVERYONE ELSE, IT'S GONNA BE MUCH, MUCH, MUCH LESS THAN WE'RE PAYING OUT.
MINE, WERE KIND OF OUTTA LINE WITH WHAT I THOUGHT THEY WERE IN THE BEGINNING.
YOU JUST HAVE ONE BIG NUMBER AND YEAH.
AND IT'LL COME OUT OF EVERYBODY'S WHATEVER.
YEAH, I THINK, UH, DEPENDING ON THE VENDOR, WHILE THERE WILL BE ONE BILL, I THINK TODAY HAL HAS A STACK OF BILLS LIKE THIS.
NOW OUR GOAL IS TO REDUCE IT TO ONE BILL FOR WIRELESS AIR CARDS AND ONE FOR OUR HOPEFULLY ONE, MAYBE TWO FOR THE REST OF OUR PHONES, AND THEN A TOOL OR A WAY FOR HOW'S FOLKS TO PUT IT INTO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
'CAUSE AS YOU RECALL, WE WERE GOING TO CONSOLIDATE ALL
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COMMUNICATIONS INTO ONE LINE, ONE LINE ITEM.BUT AS IT TURNED OUT, WE DO STILL HAVE, UM, SEPARATE COMMUNICATION LINE ITEMS. SO WHAT POWELL WILL BE ABLE TO DO IS PAY THE BILL AND THEN FOR THE COMMISSIONERS OUT OF ROAD AND RIDGE WILL BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS BY USAGE.
BUT OUR HOPE IS TO GET THIS REALLY, REALLY DOWN TO, UH, A FRACTION OF WHAT WE'RE PAYING, WHERE WE'RE PAYING.
WHEN YOU GET IT DONE, CAN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CURRENT BILL AND COMPARE IT TO THE OLD BILL AND SEE YES SIR.
JACK, DOES THIS, UH, FALL INTO YOUR, UH, APPROVAL AREA? YES SIR.
THE COMMITTEE HIMSELF, WE'VE ALL WORKED TOGETHER ON IT IN COLLECTIVE PLAN.
WE USE VERIZON 'CAUSE THE COUNTY'S
THE SECURITY FOR VERIZON FOR THE SHERIFF S WAY ABOVE EVERYBODY ELSE'S SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I ALWAYS SAY AYE.
NOW WE DISCUSS, CONSIDER USING TYLER EPAY FOR AUTOMATED PAYMENTS FOR KAMAN COUNTY COURTS.
UM, THIS IS MOSTLY FOR THE JPS AND WHILE, YOU KNOW, DURING OUR DISCUSSIONS WE REALIZED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE OFFICE HOLDER AT THE JP, BUT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COLLECTING FUNDS EASIER, UH, HAVE MORE WAYS TO DO IT, AND TO WHEN A PAYMENT IS MADE TO PUSH THAT DATA TO OUR DATABASE IN REAL TIME WITHOUT HAVING TO RE-KEY ALL THAT INFORMATION IN.
SO THERE'S REALLY TWO PARTS TO THIS.
NUMBER ONE IS WHEN THE PERSON MAKES PAYMENT, WHETHER IT'S AT THE COUNTER OR WE HOPE TO DO A KIOSK TYPE ENVIRONMENT IN A BUSY COURT, WE COULD HAVE A PLACE OUT IN THE LOBBY AREA OR A PERSON COULD WALK UP AND MAKE PAYMENTS AND THEY CAN ALSO MAKE PAYMENTS ONLINE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR THE PERSON TO PAY.
AND ONCE THAT DATA, ONCE THAT PAYMENT IS MADE, THEN THAT PAYMENT INFORMATION IS APPLIED TO THEIR, YOU KNOW, TO THE DATABASE.
THE JP CLERK DOESN'T HAVE TO SIT THERE AND REKEY ALL THAT.
AND WHILE WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN SAY THAT THE JP SHALL DO IT.
WE JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY SO THEY CAN DO IT.
I THINK COMMISSIONER CLARK HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
WELL, I STARTED TO SAY, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION MEETING FROM COMMISSIONER TALK THAT WE MAY NOT JUST LEAVE IT OPTIONAL TO THE JUDGES.
UH, IF WE PROVIDE THIS SERVICE, THEN IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE COUNTY.
THEN THE JUDGE IS NOT, OF COURSE, BEING MINDFUL THAT OUR ONLY CONTROL OVER THE JPS IS THEIR BUDGET.
BUT, UH, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN STILL HANDLE THEIR BUDGETS IF THEY DON'T DO EVERY EVER, THEY, THEY CAN TO INCREASE THEIR VOLUME OF WORK OR THEIR PRODUCTIVITY.
SO I SAY, SIR, MR. GEORGE, IS THERE ANY EXTRA COST OF US? NO.
UM, THERE IS, AND THIS WOULD BE PENDING ATTORNEY APPROVAL.
UH, JOHN HASN'T RECEIVED A COPY.
THERE IS NO COST OF ACCOUNTING.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A CONVENIENCE FEE THAT IS CHARGED.
UH, BUT NO, THE, UH, THERE'S NO NO COST IN THIS AGREEMENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT ACCOUNT? ALRIGHT, NOW HOW DOES, HOW DOES THIS UH, UH, TIE INTO THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THE LINEBARGER COLLECTION FIRM THAT THEY GET EVERY 60 HOURS? I IT 60 DAYS? WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY RUN IN PARALLEL.
IT, IT GIVES, IT PROVIDES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO MAKE PAYMENT.
YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS EASY AND CONVENIENT AS POSSIBLE, BUT WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT HERE IS WHEN THEY MAKE PAYMENT, WE WANT TO PUSH THAT DATA, THAT PAYMENT INFORMATION TO THE DATABASE IN REAL TIME.
SO WE'RE STILL NOT GONNA INTERFERE ONCE THEY HAVEN'T PAID IN 60 DAYS? NO, WE COULD, WE CERTAINLY CAN, UM, EXTRACT DATA AND SEND IT TO LINEBARGER.
RECENTLY, BARBARA IN MY OFFICE AND UH, AND LAURA HUGHES HAVE WORKED TOGETHER AND WE'VE PROVIDED DATA FOR THE COUNTY CLERK TO GO TO LINEBARGER.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THE SAME TRACKING MECHANISM IF SOMEBODY PAYS CREDIT CARD ONLINE, WHETHER IT WAS A, A LAW FIRM LANDLORD VERSUS A DISTRIBUTOR PLAN THE COUNTY PART OF.
ARE YOU SAYING WOULD THE PAYMENT AFTER 60 DAYS, ANYTHING OVER 60 DAYS? YEAH, AFTER 60 DAYS.
AND THEN, UH, IS THERE GONNA BE A DESIGNATION? I THINK COMMISSIONER CLARK ASKED HIM ON WHEN THEY PAY A FINE, IF IT'S BEING
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PAID, UH, HOW WE GONNA DESIGNATE IF IT WENT THROUGH THE LINEBARGER FIRM OR IF THEY PAID IT ON THEIR OWN JUST BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD A GUILTY OF CONSCIENCE.SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY PAID IN RESPONSE TO A, UM, AN EFFORT BY LINEBARGER OR LIKE YOU SAID THEY 65 MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, THEY JUST CHOSE TO PAY ONLINE? YEAH, WHO KNOWS? THAT'S WHAT WE DUNNO THE ANSWER.
WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE A LINEBARGER AND SEE IF MAYBE LIKE THE TAXES THEY CAN HERE.
UH, WHERE ONCE THAT, UH, TAX COLLECTION INFORMATION IS TURNED OVER TO THE LAW FIRM AND 1ST OF JUNE, OR 1ST OF JULY.
JULY ONE, THEN EVERYTHING THAT IS COLLECTED ON THAT ACCOUNT FROM THAT DAY, FOURTH GOES THROUGH THE, GOES THROUGH.
UH, THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC LEGAL FEE.
INCREASE BY THE TAX DUE IS INCREASED BY AN AUTOMATIC LEGAL FEE ON JULY ONE.
SO THAT WOULD STILL BE THE SAME THING WITH THE 60 DAYS.
JUST WOULDN'T HAVE BE ANY DESIGNATION.
WOULD IT BE SOME TRAINING? YES.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO PAY BY THE CREDIT CARD.
HOPEFULLY MAKE IT EASY TO GET THE MONEY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
HOW ABOUT THEM GIANTS? HUH? FOUR.
NEXT, UH, HOW JONES IS GOING TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER FOR HENRY AND PETERS TO PERFORM THE ANNUAL INDEPENDENT AUDIT FOR THE YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2010.
AND TO GRANT THE EXEMPTION UNDER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 62 RELATING TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
JUDGE, I, I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE OUR COUNTY TREASURER WAS OUT OF COUNTRY AT THE TIME.
UH, SO AND, AND I THOUGHT THAT THE COURT, THE COURT NEEDS TO CONSIDER THIS LIKE NOW.
UH, BUT I REALLY NEED TO REC ACCUSE MYSELF OF ANY SUPPORT OR LACK OF SUPPORT FOR AN ACCOUNTING, AN AUDITING FIRM BECAUSE THEY AUDIT ME.
UH, SO I JUST WANTED IT ON THE AGENDA AND SO Y'ALL CAN DISCUSS AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO WITH IT, BUT I WAS NOT HERE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
I WAS JUST, UH, JUST MAKING SURE IT GETS DONE.
AND, AND NOW THE TREASURER'S BACK, WE CAN
UH, WE USED, UH, HE REPEATED HIS LAST I GUESS SEVEN YEARS NOW.
I THINK YOU'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THEM.
AND, UH, BECAUSE THE COST WILL GO UP IF THAT'S, WE WOULD ASK THEM TO APPROVE THEM AGAIN FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR AUDIT.
IS THERE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF AUDIT THAT THE COUNTY HAVE TO GO THROUGH? BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE NOT PAYING NEAR THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WELL, YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL AUDIT TOO.
YOU HAVE CERTAIN THAT HAVE AUDITS.
THEY HAVE AUDIT CERTAIN COUNTIES, CERTAIN, UH, LIKE DEBT, UH, LIKE THAT IF YOU HAVE GRANTS FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, SO SOME OTHER COUNTIES MAY NOT BE DOING THAT.
WITH THEIR AUDITING DEPARTMENT.
THEY, THEY NOT NEED THAT, BUT THEY MAY NOT HAVE CARRY, IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AUDITING.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, IT'S A GRANT LEVEL.
YOU GOT MEET, WE GET GRANT LEVEL, WHICH WE DO YOU GET THAT TOO DIFFERENT.
SO YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THAT? YES.
I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GETTING, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE PAYING MORE MONEY IN SOME OF OUR ADING COUNTIES, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE GETTING MORE FOR A MONEY OR NOT MEAN.
THAT KIND OF ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
YEAH, I WOULD IMAGINE WE HAVE MORE GRANTS IN THE MILL THAN YEAH.
THAN ANYBODY AROUND US MINORITY DO.
WELL, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
UH, JOHNNY, WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, YOU WANT BRING US TO TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR AUGUST.
UH, YOU ALL HAVE CARRY FOR OF COURSE.
IT'S THIS TIME HERE WE HAVE MONEY, MONEY TIED.
ANY QUESTIONS I'D ENTERTAIN MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT REPORT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DALLAS.
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BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.I'VE GOT ONE TO THREE COMING OVER HERE.
OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, MS. LAURA HUGHES AND WE'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN PROPERTY INFORMATION AND THE COUNTY CLERK THAT OUTLINES THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ELECTRONICALLY RECORDING LAND RECORD DOCUMENTS.
SHE, IT IS THE SAME AS AN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH SIMPLIFY INGO AND OUR ATTORNEY HERE HAS ALREADY REVIEWED IT AND APPROVED IT.
SIMILAR TERMS TO THE OTHER DOCUMENT.
ALMOST IDENTICAL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROW.
CONSIDER AUTHORIZING A BID FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR ROAD MATERIALS JACK.
UH, IT'S TIME AGAIN TO, UH, REBID OUR ROAD MATERIALS.
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MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, UH, CLOSE THE, UH, BIDS ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE 18TH AT, UH, 2:00 PM AT THE SOUTH COUNTY.LONE STAR STEEL STEEL COMPANY, THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL SLAG OR FLY ASH.
THEY USE A LOT OF IT IN TEXAS BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE.
I'M GONNA GO VISIT THEM PROBABLY SOMETIME THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK.
WILL THAT BE TOO LATE TO GET 'EM ON THE BID LIST TO REQUEST? I THINK, UH, I THINK IT MAY BE PROHIBITIVE THE DISTANCE, BUT I STILL WANT TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD BE THE BID AND MAYBE I'D GET IT DELIVERED FOR A CHEAPER PRICE WHERE IT REALLY MAKES A GOOD ROAD BASE AND IT'S VERY INEXPENSIVE 'CAUSE IT'S A BYPRODUCT, UH, A COST THEY'LL, BUT ANYHOW, I'LL, IF I CAN GET OUT THERE AND TALK, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME AND I'D LIKE ALSO GET Y'ALL'S, UH, I COULD GET ESTIMATES ON QUANTITIES ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
I THINK WE'LL GET BETTER PRICING IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF ESTIMATE WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE NEXT YEAR ON ALL THIS MATERIAL.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING MOTION OR LIKE THAT AT THIS POINT.
NO, WE'RE STILL CURRENTLY, APPARENTLY RYAN IN TARRANT COUNTY
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
CONSIDER SIGNING AN AGENCY AGREEMENT WITH VERIZON WIRELESS FOR PURCHASE PURCHASES RELATING TO THE STATE OF TEXAS DIR CONTRACT.
JUDGE JUST WORKS WITH, UH, UH, WHAT GEORGE WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
UH, JUST, JUST SAY, UH, AGREEMENT WE SIGNED WITH, WITH, WITH
DO YOU RECOMMEND WE DO THAT, JACKIE? YES, SIR.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES IT DOWN, PLEASE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER VOTING BID NUMBER 10 DASH OH FIVE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR HVAC SERVICES.
I'M PASSING OUT, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY OFFICE LAST WEEK.
UH, I WAS REQUESTED THAT Y'ALL HAVE A COPY OF THAT THIS MORNING.
UH, UH, WE HAD THREE VERY COMPETITIVE BIDS, UH, ON THIS AC CONTRACT.
UH, COMBINE MECHANICAL, UH, 3D MECHANICAL AND WR PRECISION THERE.
UH, AFTER REVIEWING THE BIDS, UH, AND CHECKING REFERENCES, UH, IT APPEARS THAT APPEARS TO BE LOW BIDDER, UH, 3D MECHANICAL SERVICES.
UH, IS, IS THE LOW BID SPECIFICATION TIME TO LOOK AT THIS, BUT, UH, MY BID BIT 3D THE, UH, 3D ON THE, UH, PERCENTAGE, UH, THAT THEY'LL CHARGE OVER COST ON MATERIALS AND, UH, UH, SUCH, UH, I KNOW AS HE'S GOT 25%, UH, ON ONE SECTION VERSUS COMBINE 20% AND HE'S GOT 20% VERSUS THEIR 10% ON ANOTHER SECTION AND 25% VERSUS 20%.
UM, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH, UH,
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UH, AFFECTING, UH, THE LOW, LOW PORTION OF THE BID? OBJECTION, UH, YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, WE HAD A MEETING, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS WITH COMMISSIONER ARD, MR. CLARK AND, AND THE OFFICER KYLE JONES.AND, UH, WE PULLED SOME INVOICES JUST AT RANDOM DROP FULL INVOICES AND WE KIND OF LOOKED AT THOSE AND AS A BASIS AS IF WHETHER THE, UH, DISCOUNT ON PARTS WOULD, WOULD, UH, IMPACT THIS.
AND IT, IT LOOKED TO US THAT, UH, UH, BIGGEST PART OF THE PRICING ON THE INVOICES WAS FOR LABOR ONLY AND DID NOT HAVE MANY PARTS ON THERE.
I KNOW THAT, UH, THAT I'M GUESSING THAT 75% OF THE INVOICES WE SAW WERE RELATED TO, UH, LABOR, LABOR AND NOT PARTS LABOR.
THIS IS WHAT I ASKED FOR, UH, WHEN HE CAME BY MY OFFICE AFTER THE MEETING AND ASKED HIM HOW MUCH ACTUAL PARTS HE FIND CORRECT.
SAYING THAT HE SAID HE WAS GONNA GET THIS, UH, THAT'S THE NUMBER OF PARTS THAT HE GOT.
IT LOOKED LIKE ON PAGE PAGE NUMBER LOOKED LIKE USING HIS 20% VERSUS OTHER 25% OR IS 10% VERSUS BIT 20%.
IT'D BEEN A DIFFERENCE OF $3,000.
YOU SEE WHAT ON THE SECOND TO LAST, THIRD, LAST PAGE THAT RIGHT.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ALL PART THERE'D BE A DIFFERENCE OF A $3,000, I GUESS.
UH, I
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, THE ESTIMATE ON THESE HOURS PRETTY CONSERVATIVE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND OVERSTATE UH, THESE, UH, THE NUMBER OF HOURS ON HERE IS VERY, UH, CONSERVATIVE, I EXPECT BE MORE THAN THAT.
THEIR, THE ACTUAL COST WAS OVER TWO.
THAT COULD BEEN A BAD YEAR FOR, UH, WATER OF PLACEMENTS FOR NORTH INTERNATIONAL.
WELL, IF YOU THINK BACK, THERE WERE, BECAUSE EARLY WARNING OFFICE COOLER, THE, UH, VESTIBULE OUT FRONT, WE HAD REWIRE VENT FOR THAT.
UH, DISTRICT CLERK WANTED THAT AIR CONDITION WHERE SHE PUT HER RECORDS OUT AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
SO A LOT OF THOSE CHARGES ON THOSE BILLS THAT Y'ALL REVIEWED WERE REQUESTS MADE BY THE COUNTY FOR COME DOWN THE COUNTY TO DO THAT WORK.
PLUS I, I'M CURIOUS AS TO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE INSPECTION, UH, IT SEEMS THAT BOTH, BOTH THOSE BIDS COME MECHANICAL AND 3D MECHANICAL, UH, BOTH HAVE NO CHARGE.
UH, IS THAT PRETTY MUCH A COINCIDENCE THERE, ISN'T IT? OR? WELL, UH, I, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I I BELIEVE, UH, UH, THE VENDORS, I BELIEVE I KNOW AT LEAST 3D DID REQUEST A, UH, TABULATION FROM THE PREVIOUS BID, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE, WE DO THAT RECORD.
SO I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT, UH, THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
SO JACK IS YOUR, YOUR, UH, SUGGESTION STILL THAT WE GO WITH THE LOW BIDDER COMMISSIONER? THAT'S REAL.
ALL I CAN DO, BUT BASED, BASED ON WHAT I SEE AS FAR AS THE, UH, LABOR RATE, UH, CLINICAL ITEMS, UH, THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THE PUM CONTROL TECHNICIAN AT 85 WORTH 70 CONTROL TECHNICIAN, YOU KNOW, FIVE VERSUS 70.
THAT'S THE TO BE THERE ARE JUST ESTIMATE WHATEVER WE BID ON, WHATEVER WE, UH, DECIDE ON, JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING AND UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF THIS CHANNEL THROUGH ONE PERSON, EITHER THE JUDGE OR FREDDY OR SOMEBODY.
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I'VE HEARD THAT OTHER, SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS JUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THEM DIRECT OR ANYBODY DIRECT AND THEY GO RIGHT OUT THERE.THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BID.
WHOEVER DOES THAT, LIKE I SAY, THAT CHANNEL THROUGH ONE PERSON IS THIS, UH, I KNOW COMBAT MECHANICAL HAS DONE A LOT OF THINGS FOR THE COUNTY THAT DIDN'T CHARGE FOR LIKE GETTING THE GRANT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND, UH, FOR THAT, UH, MONEY TO BE SPENT AT THE, UH, NEW JAIL.
UH, DOES THE, UH, 3D MECHANICAL, DO THEY REALLY THINK THEY CAN, WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TIME ON THEIRS? DID THEY PUT THAT IN THEIR BID? YES SIR.
I THINK I HAD ON A MINIMUM, UH, THURSDAY TIME, I BELIEVE CHECK BID ON IT, BUT SAW TIME, THEY WERE NOT GONNA ABLE THAT.
IT DID NOT BECAUSE THE, HE SAID HE DID COMMENT TO ME PASS ON BECAUSE HE WASN'T GONNA BE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.
I HAVE A, UH, UH, THEY HAVE CHECKED OFF ON, UH, HAVE A STATEMENT, 30 MINUTE EMERGENCY ON SITE RESPONSE TIME.
THEY CHECKED THEY COULD DO THAT.
I HAD A MEETING WITH 3D FRIDAY, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.
MY CONCERN WAS HOW MANY EMPLOYEE RESPONSE TIME? THEY HAVE 24 PEOPLE IN THE COMPANY.
THEY HAVE 20 IN THE FIELD, 20 IN THE FIELD, 20 MAINTENANCE PEOPLE IN THE FIELD, UM, AND 24 HOUR DAY, SEVEN DAY A WEEK RESPONSE.
THEY HAVE SOME VERY BIG ACCOUNTS, UH, ALL OVER DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA.
YEAH, WE WE WOULDN'T BE THEIR LARGEST ACCOUNT NO.
BY ANY MEANS WE WOULD NOT BE THEIR LARGEST ACCOUNT.
UH, AND I I I WAS FAIRLY IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT THEY'RE QUITE AN ORGANIZATION.
I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT MECHANICA HAS DONE US A GOOD JOB.
UH, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK JUST BY THE NUMBERS AND I, I HATE TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO TRY AND READ AND UNDERSTAND ON COURT.
UM, BUT I PERSONALLY THINK 3D HAS HAS WON THE BID.
I MEAN, THEY'RE THE LOWEST BID AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 3D.
WELL, I LIKE A COUPLE, I KNOW
THEY'RE CLOSE BY AND RESPONSE TIME.
UH, WHAT I'D ALSO LIKE TO DO, NO MATTER HOW THIS GOES, I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, USE THIS CONTRACT JUST FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS.
AND I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE US BID OUT, UH, THESE SPECIAL PROJECTS.
OH, SOME THEY GET IT TO HIGH DOLLAR.
JUST GIVE EVERYBODY, IT DID SEEM TO ME THAT EVERY TIME I CAME IN COMBAT MECHANIC TRUCK WAS OUT HERE OR OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.
UH, THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING I, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT EITHER GO THROUGH YOUR OFFICE JUDGE OR THROW THROUGH PERRY, JOHNNY.
I MEAN, HE'S THE ONE WHO CALLS HIM ON THE OWN.
HE'S, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE THAT CALLS HIM.
WELL, I HOPE THERE'S NOBODY, BUT I JUST SEE 'EM ALL THE TIME AND I'LL THINK WHO CALLS THEM IT? UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOING THROUGH SOMEBODY'S OFFICE, BUT IT GOES THROUGH FREDDY AND FREDDY CANNOT, UH, DO THE JOB.
SOMEBODY CALLS IN AND SAYS, FREDDY AIR CONDITIONER'S OUT.
FREDDY GOES OUT AND CHECKS IT.
IF HE CAN'T FIX IT, CAN HE CALLS THE CONTACT.
THAT'S WHAT I, AND IF IT'S ANYTHING MAJOR, LIKE, UH, WHEN WE DID EARLYS, OUR JUDGE NOBEL'S COURTROOM, WHEN WE DID THE, THE VESTIBULE OUT FRONT AND WE DID THE SOUTH CAMPUS, SOUTH CAMPUS, Y'ALL REMEMBER I BROUGHT THAT FOR COURT.
BUT ANYWAY, THEY BRING THOSE PROJECTS TO ME AND THEN I CAN CHECK AND SEE IF, NO, I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE.
IT'S SEEMS LIKE THEY WERE OUT HERE.
I JUST KNOW THEY'VE DONE US A GOOD JOB AND, UH, I HATE TO CHANGE HORSES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREAM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I ONLY HAVE ONE PHOTO.
SO, UH, I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH, I THINK THEY DID A GOOD JOB, BUT I SURE DID SEEM
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LIKE THEY RIGHT JOB.SAY AGAIN? VERY AND BE GOOD CONTRACTOR.
I JUST THINK WE'D HAVE A HARD TIME JUSTIFYING THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PRICE.
I HAVEN'T READ THIS AND I HATE TO BE PRESENTED TO IT ON THE COURT WITHOUT STUDYING IT.
UH, WELL, YOU WANT TAKE IT NEXT WEEK UP TO JACK.
ONLY THING I'D SAY, UH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, 3D THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, THIS PART OF THE INFORMATION, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE BID.
WHATEVER THIS COULD, THEY COULD WALK AND WATER THAT WOULD, UH, MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
OBVIOUSLY I HAD TO HAVE TIME TO READ THAT, BUT I COULD NOT MAKE A CHANGE BY STATUTE.
WELL, JUDGE, IF YOU NEED SOMEBODY, I'LL MAKE THAT BID.
MOTION MADE, MADE BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ROWDEN.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IT IS 10 35 AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.
I'VE GOT SOME PAPERS TO SIGN ON THOSE.
WE'RE TAKE ABOUT A 15 MINUTE BREAK AND OKAY.
AND YOU'RE CHECKING THE COUNTY FILE.
WHAT ALL ARE, UM, WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S NOT REALLY PROBLEM, BUT, UH, UNDER ASSUMED NAMES, THERE'S ONE FOR VERNON BILL OR BILL BURN, BUT IT'S BILLY VEON.
AND THEN FOR COUNTY, THERE'S AN ABSTRACT
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JUDGMENT FOR BILLY C. LANE JR.NO, I, UH, IT DOESN'T MATCH HIS, BUT IT ALSO SAYS MARIA A. LANE AND BILLY.
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WARRANTY.UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER SIGNING HAR INNER CIVIC WARRANTY SUPPORT AND LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR
JUDGE, OUR, OUR CURRENT CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT IS EXPIRING AND THIS IS JUST A NEW AGREEMENT FOR ALL THE, UH, WARRANTY OF THE SUPPORT AND HARSH LICENSING.
UH, JOHN IS STILL LOOKING AT THAT.
I'M BE QUITE READY TO LET YOU SIGN THAT YET.
I'D LIKE GO AHEAD AND GET THE ORDER.
MR. MURPHY, UH, ON BOARD WITH THAT? YES, SIR.
AND I'VE GOT A, A, UH, MENT JUDGE IS, UH, 30 3002 FIVE YEAR.
IS THAT WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR? YES.
I THINK THERE'S ABOUT A INCREASE AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT IF WE, UH, UH, AGREED TO, UH, SIGN OFF A FIVE YEAR PERIOD THAT, UH, THEY WILL HOLD THAT PRICE.
NORMALLY CREEK THEY'LL HOLD FIVE TO FIVE YEAR FOR 4,000.
I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION PENDING.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOER, UH, THAT WE SIGNED WITH PART PROVIDED.
CONSIDER PROVING, UH, FISCAL YEAR 11 AMENDMENT TO THE RESOURCE SHARING ADDENDUM FOR KAMAN COUNTY.
DOES THAT JIS THAT THE JUVENILE INFORMATION SYSTEM THAT, UH, YOU'RE WORKING ON THROUGH THE CONFERENCE BOURBON COUNTIES AND WE'RE NOT PAID NINE OUTTA 10, IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING? WE HAVE NOW.
SO THIS, UH, IS JUST FOR THE NEW YEAR COMING UP.
WELL, DO YOU STILL RECOMMEND WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT? UM, YES, I DO.
WHAT WE, JUST TO REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY, WHAT WE DO WITH THIS PROGRAM, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY.
WHAT IT'S FOR IS ANY OF THE PARTICIPATING COUNTIES, UM, IF A JUVENILE IS HANDLED IN OUR COUNTY, IN COLLIN OR DENTON COUNTY, UM, WHO ARE MEMBER COUNTIES OF THIS GI S PROGRAM, THEY'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND SEE THAT WE HANDLE THIS JUVENILE.
OUR ROLE IS EVERY NIGHT WE PUSH THE DATA FROM JUVENILE PROBATION'S CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE TO A CENTRAL DATABASE IN DALLAS.
AND THERE IT'S MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL THE MEMBER COUNTIES.
SO OUR, OUR ROLE IS SIMPLY TO PUSH THAT DATA UP THERE.
MICHAEL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ALL 30 ACT MOTION CARRIES TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.
GEORGE, THAT'S FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COST MORE DEVELOPMENT COST.
THAT'S WHEN WILL WE BE LINE WITH THAT? IT SAID HOW MANY YEARS TIME WE BEEN? YEAH.
UM, WELL WE BEGAN, S BEGAN DEVELOPMENT WHEN THE ENGINE WAS STILL THE DIRECTOR OVER THERE.
SO HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
WE PAY AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR, THE SIZE OF OUR COUNTY WHERE DENT INCOME AND SOME OF THE COUNTIES AND DALLAS COUNTY PAYS.
SO, BUT IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT BENEFIT OF OUR COUNTY, BUT THE, IT'S KIND OF FOR ALL THE COUNTIES IN THE CC NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS HERE, PART OF THE CONSORTIUM.
AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE ALSO THE BEGINNING THE ADULT INFORMATION SYSTEM PROJECT, WHICH WELL, I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE THE OPTION BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
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JIM, A GOOD CHANCE.YEAH, YEAH, I REMEMBER THEY'VE ALREADY SENT US THE INFORMATION, UH, I GUESS TO SEE IF WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE INFORMATION PART.
I A NEXT ONE IS, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVING A REQUEST FOR ELMO WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION TO BORE PHONE AND LONG AND UNDER COUNTY ROAD 3 52.
JC IS THAT IN YOUR, THEY BOUGHT SOME OUT THERE, THE HOUSE THERE.
WATER MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DELLER.
CONSIDER SELLING COUNTY PROPERTY NEXT TO KAUFMAN ISD INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO THE KAUFMAN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I RECEIVED A LETTER OR AN EMAIL FROM THE, UH, SUPERINTENDENT OF KAUFMAN SCHOOLS, UH, UM, THROUGH THE YEARS.
AND I MEAN, WHEN I SAY THROUGH THE YEARS, I'M TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE, UH, MID AND LATE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES EVERY TIME IT CAME UP, THE COUNTY HAS NO USE FOR THAT PROPERTY OUT THERE.
WELL, I WOULD ALWAYS ARGUE AGAINST THE SALE OF IT BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT BRING.
THEN THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THEN BOUGHT THEIR LAND OUT THERE NEXT TO US.
UH, AND THEN WE SET ASIDE, I BELIEVE 160 FEET FOR THE, UH, BYPASS, THEY DON'T CALL 'EM BYPASS ANYMORE FOR THE, UH, REDIRECTION OF THE HIGHWAY 34.
SO WE'VE ALREADY SET ASIDE THAT.
UH, BUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE ENTERED INTO A OPENED IN LEASE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR, I THINK IT'S FIVE ACRES OUT THERE FOR THEM TO PUT AN AG BARN ON THEM.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY FARMS OR ANYTHING FOR THEIR ANIMALS OR FOR THE KIDS TO, UH, THEM.
SO COURT AGREED TO LET 'EM, TO LEASE 'EM.
THAT, UH, UH, I'VE ALWAYS SAID IN MY OPINION THAT, THAT WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GOT READY TO PURCHASE LAND, THEN THE COUNTY OUGHT TO CONSIDER SELLING THAT LAND.
UH, I DIDN'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT OUT AN OPEN MARKET AND LET A DEVELOPER GET IN AND PUT A HOG FARM NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.
BUT, UH, UH, SO ANYWAY, I RECEIVED THAT, UH, UH, EMAIL FROM THE, UH, SUPERINTENDENT TODD WILLIAMS, JUST ASKING, UH, SEEING IF WE WERE INTERESTED IN, UH, SELLING THE 15 ACRES NEXT TO THE, TO THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
SO I BRING THAT OUT AND Y'ALL THINK ABOUT IT DECISION ON TODAY, BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL IS NOW INTERESTED IN PURCHASING SOME OF OUR LAND THAT LIES NEXT TO THE, WE GO THROUGH APPRAISAL PROCESS ON, SO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH APPRAISER PROCESS.
UH, THE LAW SAYS THAT IF IT'S BETWEEN GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND YOU GET, UH, AND WE WANT LIKE WE DID BEFORE, UH, EACH ONE OF THOSE POINT AN APPRAISER AND THEN THE APPRAISER, TWO APPRAISER POINT, A THIRD APPRAISER, UH, AND THEN COME UP WITH AN AVERAGE, UH, ACTUALLY WHAT IS A CONSENSUS ON WHAT THE PROPERTY'S WORTH.
AND THEN BETWEEN ENTITIES, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO PUT IT UP TO BID BECAUSE BETWEEN GOVERNMENT WE CAN JUST DO IT AS LONG AS WE GET FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR ARE THEY LOOKING AT THE WHOLE 15 ACRES OR, UH, HE, HE, HE QUESTION HE ASKED FOR 15 ACRES, BUT YOU KNOW THAT LOT OUT THERE IS 60 ACRES, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE JUST WANT 15.
THAT'S ALL HE, THAT'S ALL HE IS ASKING ABOUT.
UH, WE MAY WANT TO DO MORE THAN THAT.
HIS LETTER RIGHTS, LIKE HE LOOKS, HE THINKS IT'S ONLY 15 ACRES.
I MEAN, THAT, IF I READ THAT, I WOULD THINK HE THOUGHT THAT WAS ALL AT ONCE.
BUT WE'VE GOT ALL THAT AC SET ASIDE FOR THE, UH, UH, ROAD POINTS THERE.
DOES THAT GO DOWN THERE THEN ABOVE THE CHE LAND? YEAH, IT, YEAH, THE, THE 6,860 FEET RATHER STARTS AT THE CHEAT LAND AND COMES BACK TOWARD THE, AND THAT CHEATED THE BORDER IS THE BORDER
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OF THAT PROPERTY.IT DOES NOT GO ALL THE WAY OVER TO OH FOUR.
UH, THERE'S, UH, THERE WAS TWO TRACKS OF LAND IN BETWEEN OUR TRACK AND OH FOUR OH, IT DIDN'T COME UP ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ROAD.
DIDN'T COME ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ROAD.
UH, WITH THE COUNTY NOT USED TO LIKE NO, NO.
WE USED TO LEASE IT OUT FOR, UM, UH, PASTURE GRAZING TO JACK KE WHEN JACK WAS ALIVE.
BUT, UH, AFTER JACK DIED, WELL, NOBODY WANTED IT AND THE FENCES CAME, CAME IN DISREPAIR AND THERE'S NO WATER ON IT.
UH, REASON JACK LEASE IS BECAUSE HE HAD HAD HIS WATER.
HE COULD PUT A WATER TR THERE NEXT TO HIS HOUSE.
SO, UH, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WATER.
BUT SOMETHING ABOUT IT, LIKE I SAY, IT'S, UH, SCHOOL'S READY TO, PARTICULARLY NOW SINCE THEY GOT THEIR, UH, UH, LITTLE ISSUE THEY HAD ON THE BALLOT OKAYED BY THE PEOPLE.
SO THEY'RE READY TO, UH, EXPAND AND THEY JUST NEED TO, UH, I THINK IF THE COUNTY, IF WHEN, AND EVER THE COUNTY DECIDES TO LET IT GO, WHETHER IT'S NOW OR LATER THAT THE COUNTY'S WISHES ON.
IF THE SCHOOL NEEDS IT, THEN YEAH.
THEY GOT THE MONEY NOW WITH THAT DRE.
AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE IT NEXT TIME, SO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT IT AND I'LL, UH, PUT IT BACK.
I'LL TALK TO THE SCHOOL AND THEN SEE EXACTLY WHAT HE HAS IN MIND AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
PROBABLY SOMETIME NEXT 60 FOOT DRIVE OF WAY.
IS IT STILL COINCIDE WITH THE THE TECH DO MEETS AND BOUNDS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE OR THEY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT TOLD US THAT, THAT TO KEEP 160 FEET AND WE GOT READY TO SWAP WITH THE CITY, WE, WE WENT TO TEXAS AND ASKED, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
HOW MUCH SHOULD WE KEEP FOR HOW MUCH DO Y'ALL NEED? AND I BELIEVE IT'S 50 FEET.
WHATEVER THEY NEEDED IS IN THE, IS AN EXCEPTION IN THE DEED WHEN WE TRADED THAT LAND OF THE CITY NOW, WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING ACROSS THE ROAD.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY STILL OWNS IT.
THE COUNTY VOTED YEARS AND YEARS AGO TO DONATE IT.
COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT VOTED TO DONATE THAT PORTION AND BY THE REST OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, OF COURSE THAT WAS WHEN THE REST OF THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS IN THE COUNTY.
I THINK WE FIND HIM WENT OUT THERE AND JUST MOWED THAT FAR.
DID YOU I WE'RE SURE WHO OWNED IT, SO YEAH.
BUT HE MOWED THAT ACRE THAT THAT WAS ACROSS THE STREET.
SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND WE WILL, UH, BRING IT UP LATER TABLE THAT OR NO ACTION? NO, NO ACTION.
WELL, I, UH, NOT, NOT, I WON'T HAVE THE EXACT APPRAISED VALUE, BUT WE CAN GET AN ESTIMATE FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, BUT UH, WHEN WE GET READY TO ACTUALLY DO IT, WE'LL NEED TO GO THROUGH THE FORMALITY CASE.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JOHN.
UH, DISCUSS CONSIDERING RENEWING MEMBERSHIP OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND PAYING ANNUAL DUE, JUST LIKE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IS OUR VOICE IN AUSTIN NATIONAL ASSOCIATION COUNTIES IS OUR VOICE IN WASHINGTON DC AND THE DUES ARE 1280 $6 A YEAR.
AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE KEEP TALKING COUNTY MEMBERS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DOLLAR.
NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSED CONSIDER NOMINATING A COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE AS A MEMBER ON THE KAUFMAN AREA RURAL TRANSPORTATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
UH, I GOT, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES ALL OF THE, UH, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
UH, HE MAKES ALL OF THE MEETINGS ON LUKE NINE.
UH, HE MAKES ALL THE MEETINGS DEALING WITH ANY TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
AND, UH, THEY WANTED A NOMINEE FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR THIS PARTICULAR COURT.
SO I HAVEN'T ASKED HIM IF HE'D BE WILLING TO SERVE, BUT, UH, HE ALREADY IS.
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SERVE.ALREADY IS HE'S WILLING TO SERVE.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE HIM FOR
MOTION MADE, UH, ME AS FRENCH MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
CONSIDER APPRO THE NEW RESERVE DEPUTY ANGELO WILLY TO REPLACE VALERIE HOBBES FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.
MORNING, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER JACKSON HERE.
NOW, UH, ANGIE, SHE WAS ONE OF DALLAS COUNTY'S, UH, GOT CHOPPED OVER THERE AND, UH, I'VE SPOKEN WITH HER EX BOSS AND HE SAID THAT IF HE WOULD, IF HE COULD GET RID OF ONE THAT HE WAS HAVING TO KEEP, THAT HE'D GET RID OF THEM AND HIRE HER
AND, UH, SHE'S USED TO SERVING APPROXIMATELY 250 TO 275 PAPERS A MONTH.
SHE'S BEEN THROUGH ALL THE SCHOOLS AND SHE'S GOT HER OWN UNIFORM.
UH, HOW ABOUT VALERIE HOBBS? IS SHE, SHE WENT TO WORK FOR, UH, ROCKWELL COUNTY.
SO YOU JUST, JUST REPLACE HER.
COMMISSIONER LER WILL SECOND IT.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A OKAY, NOW WE'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVEN STACEY ZAJA.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE RESERVE.
THESE ARE KIND OF REPLACEMENTS FOR THE RESERVE THAT WE HAD SIX MONTHS AGO.
UH, THIS, THESE WILL BE THE ONLY COST OF THE COUNTY WILL BE, UH, THE BOND.
OTHER THAN THAT, BACK UP A SECOND BY, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE WARRANTS THAT WE SERVE ARE PRETTY TREACHEROUS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
IS THERE, UH, JIM, WOULD THEY, I GUESS BECAUSE THOSE KIND OF CONSTABLE THING WENT, UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE, I GUESS EVERYBODY'S GOVERNMENT'S BEEN LOOKED AT PRETTY HARD.
HAVE THEY BEEN VETTED LIKE THIS, THIS
BACKGROUNDED, BUT NOT IN KAMAN COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNTY, BUT I KNOW THEY HAVE, THEY'VE BEEN BACKGROUNDED.
IT LIKE THAT COMMISSIONER A CERTAIN COUNTY THAT WAS INDICTED LAST FRIDAY.
NOW, NOW ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE GONNA BE LOOKED AT PRETTY HARD.
WHAT WAS THAT? I, UH, I'LL DISCUSS IT WITH YOU LATER.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT CAN'T BE LONG.
CONSIDER VERIFYING OCTOBER THE 27TH, 2010 AS THE DATE BALLOT MUST BE TALLIED BY THE COUNTY CLERK ON ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON JESSE WADE, COURTNEY DRIVE, AND KELTON DRIVE.
YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN? YOU WANT JOHN HAVE TO EXPLAIN.
Y DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME.
UH, AND I THINK THAT THE INDIVIDUALS ARE BEING NOTIFIED OF THAT AS, AS THE LETTERS ARE BEING SENT OUT.
BUT JUST SO THAT, SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I THINK WE APPROVED THE PROCESS THAT AS 30 DAYS FROM THE, UH, MAILING AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN THAT DAY WAS TO OCCUR.
AND SO THIS IS SAYING, UM, THAT, THAT I GUESS THE, UH, MAILING OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 27TH.
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WANTED TO PUT A PERIOD AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE AND SAY, THIS IS WHEN LOOKING ON THE BALLOTS.AND COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.
SECOND COMMISSIONER ROW WILL SECOND IT.
NOW WE'LL DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVING A BID FOR RESALE OF TAX PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS CAUSE NUMBER 73 6 14 DASH 86, WHICH IS LOT 1 51, ALSO KNOWN AS BLOCK G OF BREEZY HILL.
ADDITION IN MATERIAL IN PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.
OKAY, THAT MOTION, COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKE THAT MOTION.
SECOND COMMISSIONER ER WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
YEAH, THE SECRETARY JUST PUT THAT, THAT'S LIKE SHE DETAILED.
IT'S A COPY, NOT THE ORIGINAL.
I, UH, UH, NEXT WE TO DISCUSS THE PROCLAIM OF THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
WHO WAS HERE TO PRESENT THAT? UM, DO YOU REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE? YES.
I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME RIGHT NOW.
NOT I'M GONNA DOCTOR NAME JONES.
JOAN IS FROM, IT IS, IT'S, YEAH, I SEE IT NOW.
THEY ASK US TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DOLL, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
UM, NOW, YES, SIR, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE HAVE A FEW CLEANUP ITEMS FROM SEPTEMBER.
LINE ITEM TRANSFER INSURANCE COSTS 6,000 FOUR, NINE, SIX.
AND WE CALL MISCELLANEOUS TO REIMBURSED MAINTENANCE FEE 15 5 6 4.
HEALTH INSURANCE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WE HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL REVENUE PRIMARILY FOR, UH, EXTRA HELP.
AND YOU THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER REQUEST.
MOTION TO APPROVE THIS MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
UH, I ASSUME IF WE WEREN'T HERE MONDAY, WE HAVE A BILL OR TWO.
I HEARD LAST WEEK WE GOT TONS.
WELL, I WAS ASKED THAT DURING THE BREAK BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE FOUND THAT SIX.
I THINK SOMEBODY JUST WISHFUL THINKING
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THROUGH THESE QUESTIONS.THE INFORMATION TO BE HERE NEXT WEEK IS UNCERTAIN ABOUT I MEANS YOU CAN DO THE JOB OF, THAT'S, THAT'S SCARED JUDGE.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH WHAT HE WHAT QUESTION MARK? YOU, I SAY JD NEED TO RENEGOTIATE.
AND I DIDN'T HAVE, I DIDN'T HAVE A BIG STICKY THING.
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READ MY COLUMN.I WAS LOOKING AT MY DESK AND I USED GET CHANGED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT.
I, MY DESK HAS GOT STUFF ALL OVER DRIVING MY BOSS NUTS.
SHE, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE, THIS ONE, THIS UHHUH SEVEN.
I GUESS IT SHOULD BEEN PAID OVER HERE.
COME BACK AND TAKE FOR 25 AND 27 YEARS WE GOT HERE.
IT COULD BE DIFFERENT TICKETS.
OKAY, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.
THIS, UH, IS THAT THE YES, SIR.
CHILD SAFETY, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU COLLECTED FROM THE, UH, REGISTRATION.
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GIVE THE LIBRARY THAT SECOND GUY.THE SECOND GUY WAS TOM COLLIN.
WHAT'S HIS GUY? UH, LIQUOR STAFF WAS A OR B LIKE BOY, BA BLACK BOY.
VIER STAFF CHIEF DELGADO, SOMEBODY, I DON'T REMEMBER THEIR FULL NAME.
AND SOUTHWEST IS UNDER UNDERGRAD.
SO FIRST SOUTHWEST SECURITIES? NO, SOUTHWEST SECURITIES.
SOUTHWEST SECURITY SHOULD BE UNDER, THAT'S TWO SEPARATE.
JUST KEEP IN LINE WITH MY ENDING BALANCE.
PARDON ME? JUST KEEP IN LINE WITH MY ENDING BALANCE IN LINE WITH IT DOESN'T CHANGE IT.
THAT, THAT WAS DIFFERENT BETWEEN WHAT YOU SAID AND WHAT I SAID.
YES, BECAUSE I, I WAS, I WAS DEDUCTING THIS FROM IT.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY YOU AND I YEAH.
SO IT HAD TO BE IN THERE FOR SEPTEMBER 3RD.
IF I IT, BECAUSE NOBODY KEEPS UP WITH, I MEAN, NOT AN ISSUE.
DO FIVE, 5% OF HOW, DON'T GET THE FIVE.
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25.SO IF I DIDN'T CARRY ANYTHING, IT WOULDN'T MATTER.
YOU THEN YOUR BUDGET WOULD'VE BEEN FINE.
COME IS THAT JUST HIS RECORD CHECK? NOPE.
THAT'S, UH, KNOWLEDGE WHEELS AND LOGIC AND TRAINING.
NOT REAL ESTATE TO BEING AN EMPLOYEE.
THIS IS NOT SOMEBODY CAN YOU SEND SOMEBODY OCTOBER ONE? SOMEBODY SAID SOMEBODY SAID IT'S OKAY.
WHY YOU SAY IT'S OKAY? HOW DO WE BURY SOMEBODY? YEAH.
THAT'S WHERE I, THEY'RE LIKE ASK QUESTIONS.
THE HELL, I DIDN'T THINK WE SENT CORPSE FIRST CLASS WHOLE ON WHO IT IS.
IS THAT FOR THE YEAR? HOW EXCEPT BEFORE EARLY VOTING STARTS.
THOSE TWO STORIES I'M ASSUMING DOING ALL
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THE WAY JIM, YOU KNOW WE PLAYED TWO OF HER DRIVES OVER THERE YARDS.HEY GUYS, IF YOU OVER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I NEVER ASKED.
SOMETIMES BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR RIGHT.
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ANYWAY.UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DRESS CODE.
I WHAT THE PAGE I GET REQUIRES YOU TO KNOW SOMETHING ELSE DOES.
THEY THAT NORTH TOWN, WHICH A GOOD PLACE YOU GET THERE.
YOU, IT'S A BIG, BIG HOTEL FOR A COMPANY SUBCONTRACT DOWN ARIZONA AND SAN FRANCISCO.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE PRODUCTS FOR THOSE TWO CITIES.
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ALL ALL BOXES.A PLACE WHERE YOU PUT THE BOX IN SHEET SQUARE.
SQUARE FULLY FORMED ADULT IS THIS, THEY'RE STANDING THERE WITH DROP IN THE BOX, SIT THERE, ALL GO AROUND, GO.
THIS MACHINE HAD SOMEBODY TO WE YES.
SO FORKLIFT 2000 BACKGROUND BAGS DETERMINED THIS PLACE.
I HAVEN'T BEEN LONG, BUT EVEN ARE YOU GRANDFATHER? I THINK I AM NUMBER.
THOSE ARE JOBS THAT PAY LIKE 40 BUCKS AN HOUR.
WELL I TELL YOU WHAT, YOU CAN, YOU COULD CALL AGENCY, WHICH IS AGENCY AND MY EX, I MEAN, ANYWAY, I COMMENDING.
WHEN YOU'RE FILLING THE WATER, ALMOST LET GET ON LIST WATER.
LEFT
I WANNA SEE THAT I TO HIM TOO.
THERE'S, WE'VE BEEN BUSY GET THAT SIX LOAD KX.
I, WHEN THAT COMES IN, IT'D BE, THAT'S GONNA BE THE KILLER.
WHAT THEY CALL ITEM TRANSFER EMERGENCY, TWO TO 4, 5, 6.
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REALLY, REALLY GOOD.HE SAID THEY HURRICANE HE SAID 30,000 THOUSAND ACRES TO MAKE IT EASY TO FIND.
I MEAN THEY HAD A WOMAN, SHE DID SOME GIRLS WALKING AROUND THERE AND MOTION MADE SECOND BY JC JACKSON.
SO Y'ALL SAID EVERYBODY'S GOTTA SPEAK UP.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
MOTION CARRIES AJOUR, JUST HANG AROUND.