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BEING HERE FOR THE FIRST COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING.
THIS IS THE SECOND COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING.
TIME GOES BY IN A HURRY WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN.
SO ANYWAY, WE'RE GLAD TO EVERYBODY HERE AND WE'LL OPEN THE COURT UP TODAY WITH A PRAYER.
AND I'VE ASKED COMMISSIONER, UH, JACKSON TO DO THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE, SO IF YOU WOULD STAND WHILE WE DO THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSING, YOUR THANK YOU FOR THE RAIN, THE SNOW, THE SUN.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR US AND OUR LIFE TODAY.
FATHER, WE COME ASKING A SPECIAL
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN ON THIS COMMISSIONER COURT, BLESS THE DECISION THAT ARE BEING MADE.
BLESS THE PEOPLE THAT SIT ON THIS COMMISSION COURT AND HELP GUIDE US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN UPON OUR TRUTH THAT ARE OVERSEE, BLESS THEM AND KEEP 'EM IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND, THAT THEY MAY HAVE A SAFE TRIP BACK HOME.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN OUR SON JESUS NAME, AMEN.
AMEN TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HE STANDS FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR I HONOR AWAY EVANGEL ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS FOR ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.
ALRIGHT, WELL FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT EXCUSE WE CORRECT ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY LAURA, UH, AND HER OFFICE, LAURA HERSELF.
SO WE APPRECIATE THAT I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED BY THE, UH, COUNTY CLERK.
NEXT ITEM IS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
AND GUYS, THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE FOLDER IS EMPTY, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE, UH, REQUEST FROM PAM CARTER TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL APPROVING TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS FOR HER TRAVEL TO A MUNICIPAL FORESTRY INSTITUTE.
UH, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A, UH, SCHOLARSHIP THAT'S GONNA COVER THE COST OF THAT.
UH, THE MUNICIPAL FORESTRY INSTITUTE IS FEBRUARY THE 20TH THROUGH THE 25TH, HELD AT THE LIVE LODGE AND CONFERENCE CENTER, WHICH IS LOCATED IN NEBRASKA CITY, NEBRASKA.
EVERY FORESTER'S DREAM IS TO GO TO THE ARBOR DAY FARM.
ALL THE REGISTRATION FEES, COURSE MATERIALS, THE FIVE NIGHT LODGING AND MEALS, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $1,900 WORTH, WILL BE COVERED BY SCHOLARSHIP FROM THE TEXAS FORESTRY SERVICE AND THE TEXAS SCHOLARSHIP FUND.
THE MUNICIPAL FORESTRY INSTITUTE IS DESIGNED TO GIVE A UNIQUE AND REWARDING LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
PART OF THIS EXPERIENCE WILL ACTUALLY START ONE MONTH PRIOR TO ARRIVING.
THERE IS ONLINE CLASSES THAT WOULD NEED WILL, I WILL NEED TO BE TAKING HANDBOOK TO BE READ AND, UM, SO THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE INSTITUTE.
I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOUR PERMISSION TO USE MONIES FOR MY URBAN FORESTRY TRAINING, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE BUDGET FOR THE TRAVEL EXPENSES TO NEBRASKA.
IN YOUR PHOTO, I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE INFORMATION ON ABOUT THE TRAINING, AND IT INCLUDED THE COST OF TRAVELING BY AIR VERSUS CAR.
THINK WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I, I DO, UH, GIVEN OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SITUATION, BECAUSE I REALIZE YOU GOT, SHE'S GOT IT IN HER BUDGET AND SHE CAN SPEND IT HOWEVER SHE WANTS TO.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU BRINGING THIS TO THE COURT TO TELL US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BECAUSE THIS IS OUTTA ORDINARY GOING TO NEBRASKA, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR SOME TRAINING.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT SENDS KIND A WRONG MESSAGE THAT WE'RE GOING THAT FAR FOR THIS.
BUT IT'S YOUR, IT IS YOUR OFFICE AND IT'S YOUR, WE APPROVE THAT MONEY IN YOUR BUDGET.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE EVEN SUPPOSED TO APPROVE THIS OR NOT.
IF, IF I CAN ADD, UM, MIGHT THE AVERAGE COST OF TRAINING, YOU KNOW, USUALLY YOU HAVE A NIGHT OR TWO OF STAY.
AND IN THE PAST THE FORESTRY SERVICE HAS COVERED ALL MY FEES FOR MY TRAINING.
SO WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE STATION LAST YEAR FOR TRAINING, I DID NOT HAVE TO USE THE FUNDS BECAUSE COLLEGE
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STATION PAID, OR A TEXAS FORESTRY SERVICE PAID FOR THE TRAINING PART OF IT.ALL I PAID WAS FOR THE TRAVEL AND THE OVERNIGHT LODGING.
SO JUST AN AVERAGE TRAINING TO GO, GO, GO TO CALL STATION WOULD RUN ME AROUND 500 BUCKS.
I'LL TELL YOU, I'VE DONE A, I'VE TALKED TO MS QUARTER QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS AND, UH, I HAD HER WORK UP COMPARISON TO, UH, FOR THE DRIVING CALLS VERSUS THE AIRLINE COST.
AND, UH, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL, SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE, UH, NOT COUNTING THE, UH, THE TIME THAT SHE HAS TO SPEND.
AND I ALSO ASKED HER TO, UH, TO, UH, GIMME A, UH, SOME FIGURES ON HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THAT SHE TOUCHES.
UH, OCTOBER, FROM OCTOBER, 2009 TO SEPTEMBER, 2000, SHE, UH, HAD ARBOR DAY PROGRAMS IN SCHOOLS, CLUBS AND COUNTY LIBRARY, BOY SCOUT TROOP, GIRL SCOUT GROUPS, ET CETERA.
2082 KIDS AND GARDEN CLUBS, CIVIC GROUPS, TEACHER SCOUT MAG, CHURCH CITY AND COUNTY STAFF, 412 ADULTS AND 84 TREE VISITS.
AND JUST IN FROM OCTOBER TO DECEMBER OF 2010, SHE TOUCHED 552 KIDS WITH A SMOKEY BEAR WILDLIFE AWARENESS PROGRAM.
AND, AND THE OTHERS, UH, 292 ADULTS, TEACHERS PREPARING FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE ARBOR DAY POSTER CONTEST AND 33 TRUE VISITS.
I FEEL LIKE MS. QUARTER, UH, HAS REALLY DEDICATED TO YOUR JOB.
I THINK THIS IS A PRESTIGIOUS HONOR FOR HER TO BE AWARDED THIS SCHOLARSHIP.
AND, UH, UH, I JUST FEEL LIKE AS MANY PEOPLE AS SHE TOUCHES IN THE COUNTY, I FEEL LIKE SHE'S DOING A GOOD JOB.
AND, AND, UH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO, IF SHE'S ASKING FOR OUR PERMISSION, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HER OUR PERMISSION.
IS THIS 1500? IS THAT WHAT THE COST OF THE THING WOULD BE IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT'S IN MY BUDGET FOR TRAVEL.
THE COST WOULD BE $1,900 JUST FOR THE LODGING, JUST FOR LOING.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA COVER.
THE, EXCUSE ME, THE LODGING, THE, UM, THE OVERNIGHT STAY, THE BOOKS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, UH, COURSEWORK AND THE MEALS.
AND THE REASON WHY I WAS INVITED IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE FORESTRY SERVICE HAS, UM, REALLY TAKEN AN INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR COUNTY.
AND HE'S THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY TURNED MY NAME IN MYSELF.
AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO IS SECOND IN CHARGE OF THE FORESTRY SERVICE AND ONE OTHER MAN FROM VALDI WILL BE THE ONLY ONES GOING FROM TEXAS.
IF I, IF YOU TODAY APPROVE, WE WERE THE ONLY ONES INVITED.
IF YOU FLY AND YOU GO SOUTHWEST, CAN'T YOU KNOCK OFF AS $50? YOU CAN KNOCK OFF QUITE A BIT.
AND I DID DO SOME RESEARCH LAST NIGHT JUST TO CATCH IT.
AND THE HOUSE IS DOWN CONSIDERABLE.
IT'S JUST ACCORDING LOCKING IT IN AND PROVID THE RIGHT ONE.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE CLASSES STARTING ON SAME DAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
WE HAVE TO BE THERE BY FOUR O'CLOCK AND THEN WE CANNOT LEAVE OUT FRIDAY UNTIL AFTER ONE.
'CAUSE WE HAD CLASSES UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK ON THAT FRIDAY.
SO TRYING TO FIND THE YEAR OF TIME, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HARD.
DRIVING WOULD BE, WOULDN'T BE A CONSIDERATION.
BUT IT'S ALREADY IN YOUR, BUT ISN'T, YOU SAY IT'S 1900, IT WOULD BE 1900.
THAT'S WHAT THE SCHOLARSHIP IS FOR $1,900.
DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH IN YOUR BUDGET TO COVER THE I HAVE 1500 IN MY BUDGET AND I'M ASKING TO USE APPROXIMATELY $500 OF THAT MONEY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE.
AND ACTUALLY THAT APPROVAL HAD ALREADY BEEN GIVEN WHEN THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED.
SO PAM CAME BY AND VISITED ME ABOUT THIS A WEEK OR TWO AGO, OR MAYBE LONGER.
AND, UH, THE OTHER THING I KIND OF WISH YOU'D TELL THE COURT AND THE OTHERS, UH, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK SOME WITH THE TEXAS FOREST SERVICE AND THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME GOOD LIAISON WORK, UH, WORKING WITH THEM AS FAR AS HELP FOR OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE COUNTY.
CAN YOU GIVE US, THERE SURE IS.
UM, I'VE BEEN, UM, ATTENDING SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND GOING TO THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH THE FORESTRY SERVICE AND THERE'S A DEPARTMENT THAT COVERS WILDFIRES.
AND, UM, THEY HAVE ASKED THAT I GET AHOLD OF OUR COUNTY JUDGE AND OUR FIRE, OUR, UM, FIRE MARSHAL AT SOME POINT AND SET UP A MEETING FOR THEM TO COME AND VISIT BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE RED ZONE.
KAUFMAN COUNTY SITS IN AN AREA THAT IS, UM, IS A HIGH, THERE'S A HIGH PROBLEM OR THERE COULD BE A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH WILDFIRES IN OUR AREA.
WE'RE IN THE RED ZONE WITH ALL THE GROWTH.
SO WE'RE BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE OPEN FIELDS AND THERE'S A, A MAJOR, UH, NEED FOR
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US TO DO SOME TYPE OF WORK, COME UP WITH A PLAN AND ACTION PLAN IN CASE ONE DOES BREAK OUT.SO THEY'VE ASKED ME TO, TO SET UP A MEETING BETWEEN MYSELF, THE JUDGE, AND THE FIRE MARSHAL TO TRY AND GET SOMETHING IN, IN, IN ACTION.
AND ALONG WITH THAT I JUST GOT THROUGH DOING A, A AWARENESS IN THE KAUFFMAN SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THAT'S WHERE ABOUT THE 500 KIDS, SOME OF THE 500 KIDS CAME UP WITH THE SMOKY BEAR TALKING ABOUT DON'T PLAY WITH THE MATCHES.
AND SMOKEY ACTUALLY CAME AND VISITED OUR, UM, OUR COUNTY ON FRIDAY.
SO THAT PICTURE WILL BE COMING OUT IN THE PAPER SOON.
OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COURT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT AND APPROVE FOR ATTENDING THIS CONFERENCE? I, I MAKE THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER MANNING, UH, MAKES THE MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER, UH, ROBIN SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND I'LL DEFINITELY BRING A REPORT BACK.
ANY GRANTS THAT YOU SEE UP THERE, JUST SIGN.
LET US, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO AS LET THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS KNOW ABOUT ALL THESE GRANTS IN A MEETING.
WELL, WE'RE WANTING TO GET OUT OF ALL THE RED ZONES WE CAN GET OUTTA YES.
SO NOT ONLY ON THIS, BUT IN OTHER AREAS TOO.
APPRECIATE YOU TALKING TO US ABOUT IT.
UH, NEXT ITEM IS FROM JUDGE DAVID LEWIS AND HE HAS CONTACTED, UH, THE OFFICE AND ASKED THAT WE TABLE THAT I NEED TO VISIT WITH DAVID, UH, SOME MORE ABOUT THAT.
UH, AND SO IF YOU WOULD TABLE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DO THAT.
SECOND COMMISSIONER JACKSON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, THEN CONSTABLE MORRIS, UH, HAS, UH, HIS RACIAL PROFILING REPORT THAT HE'S DISCUSSED WITH US AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING.
SIR, I HAVE CHAIR HONOR, THIS IS FOR, UH, I ACTUALLY JUST GOT A REPORT 2011.
IT'S LAST YEAR FOR COURT UPHILL, UH, LAST DAY OF, OF DECEMBER OF 2010.
UM, WE, UH, ISSUED A GRAND TOTAL OF 622 CITATIONS OUT OF PRECINCT FOUR CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.
AND AT THIS TIME WE'VE HAD NO, NO WRITTEN COMPLAINTS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? I THINK THESE, I NO COMPLAINT COMPLAINTS.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE DON'T, I MEAN, DO WE ALL LEAVE ONE OF THESE COPIES LIKE THIS FROM ALL OF OUR CONSTABLES? IT APPEARS TO BE A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT GOES INTO THESE GUYS DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK, AND COULD JUST ONE COPY BE GIVEN TO THE JUDGE FOR FILING OR JOHN DUTY? IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY WE ALL FOUR POSSESS TO GET FOUR BOOKS EVERY YEAR? UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S GREAT.
I DON'T READ MINE, RIGHT? I READ MINE.
YEAH, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST ONE I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ.
IT'S QUITE A COMPREHENSIVE, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD SAVE YOU SOME TIME, WOULD IT NOT? AND GAVE IT TO THE JUDGE.
IF Y'ALL JUST LIKE FOR US TO PRESENT ONE, THAT'S FINE WITH, WELL, I THINK MAYBE PRESENT IT TWO, YOUR, THE COMMISSION OF PRECINCT AS WELL AS THE JUDGE.
MAKE THAT BE A GOOD, WE'VE GOT ONE.
THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE HAVE TO REPORT TO THE STATE TO, TO T CLOSE REQUIRES TO SEND WHAT WE TURN INTO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
BUT THE COURT DOES NEED TO APPROVE, OR NOT NECESSARILY APPROVE, BUT ACCEPT YES.
IN FUTURE, WE'LL PROVIDE ONE FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE AND ONE FOR OUR COMMISSIONER.
I YOU MIGHT WANT BRING ONE FOR THE COUNTY COURT FOR THE RECORDS.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ONE.
I'M SURE IF YOU HAVE COMPLAINTS, EVERYONE WANTS A COPY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT? I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR NOVEMBER, 2010.IT IS THE LAST BUT FRIDAY WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
LOOK THOSE NUMBERS ON THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS TALKING.
NOW WE WEREN HOLDING 3 MILLION IN CHECKS.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE OUTBREAK.
AS OF TODAY, OVER 13, GOOD PAY OFF OUR LOAN.
THE LOAN WE HAD WITH AMERICAN NATIONAL, SIR, THE, THE TEMPORARY LOAN WE HAD OR THE SHORT TERM LOAN, WE HAD PREPAY PAID.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OF JOHNNY? IT DOESN'T REQUIRE OUR APPROVAL, IT'S JUST AN INFORMATION.
AND Y'ALL, Y'ALL KEEP THAT TOP SHEET.
ONE SIGNATURE SHEET Y'ALL SIGNED.
DOESN'T, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK TO ACCEPT THE REPORT? SECOND.
AND UH, MAN, ALL NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART IS THE TAX SUCCESS COLLECTOR.
SO MR. MURPHY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND GIVE US YOUR, UH, REPORT? WELL, GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.
I AM VERY PLEASED TO GIVE THIS REPORT THIS MORNING.
I NEED TO PUT MY GLASSES ON THROUGH DECEMBER.
WE HAD COLLECTED A LITTLE OVER 14 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND AND, UH, ALMOST, UH, 1.4 MILLION IN THE ROAD BRIDGE FUND.
THIS IS EQUAL TO 48%, WHICH IS ONE OR 2% ABOVE ANY YEAR IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
UH, OUR COMPUTER SYSTEM HOSTS JUST AS OF THE DAY RATHER THAN THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
SO THE CUTOFF PERIOD IS CONFUSING SOMETIMES, BUT THROUGH, THROUGH YESTERDAY WE HAD GOTTEN UP TO 56%, WHICH I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH, WITH PUTTING US ON TARGET FOR THE END OF JANUARY, ACTUALLY WOULD BE BASED ON HISTORY TO BE 2075 AND 80%, WHICH I'M REALLY PLEASED, BUT I'M PROUD OF KAUFMAN COUNTY TAXPAYERS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE HANGING IN DICK.
ARE THESE AMOUNT THAT'S 14 MILLION THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD COLLECTED LAST YEAR TIME.
DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE THOSE? THESE? YES SIR.
THE NUMBERS, I MEAN, TELL THE 14 MILLION WERE WE ABOUT 14 MILLION LAST YEAR? WELL, THE PERCENT IS LAST YEAR THE PERCENT WAS OF 29 MILLION.
UH, LEVY THIS YEAR IT'S A 29.6 MILLION.
SO, OKAY, SO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT SHOULD BE FAIRLY, FAIRLY CLOSE.
WHAT ABOUT THE DELINQUENT UH, TAXES? THE DELINQUENT TAXES? UH, WELL 10% THROUGH DECEMBER AND IT'S UP TO 12% THROUGH YESTERDAY.
DOES THAT COMPARE FAVORABLY OR DO YOU KNOW? DOLLAR AMOUNT? I REALLY DIDN'T LOOK.
UH, I, PERCENTAGE WISE, AND IT DEPENDS ON THE VOLUME OF THE LIQUID, RIGHT.
SO IT'S NOT A REAL THING REALLY.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY OUT TO A LOT OF WORK, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ADD A COUPLE OF CALLS SHOWING WHAT THE ACTUAL TAXES COLLECTED DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD WAS TOTALS, UH, LIKE DECEMBER OF 2009? SURE.
UH, AS WELL AS THE, THAT KIND OF GIVES US A KIND OF A BALLPARK FIGURE OF ACTUAL DOLLARS COLLECTED AS WELL AS THE DELINQUENT TAX ROLL OR THE WHAT WAS COLLECTED DELINQUENT WISE AS WELL.
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IF YOU CAN, IF YOU COULD ADD THAT ON THERE, I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING PARTIALLY TO SEE EACH EACH MONTH WHERE YEAH, JUST SEE HOW WE'RE DOING IT.OBVIOUSLY PERCENTAGE WISE WE'RE DOING VERY WELL.
YEAH, WE'RE, WELL, FORAGE WISE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING GOOD.
AGAIN, IT'S, THE CUTOFF IS, WELL THIS YEAR FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY SITUATION WE POSTED EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 31ST ALL THE WAY THROUGH JANUARY 4TH.
RIGHT? UH, SO YOU, YOU'RE EACH YOUR CUTOFF WILL BE DIFFERENT.
UH, BUT ACTUALLY I COULD ADJUST FOR IT.
UH, WELL, I MEAN THAT'S GONNA VARY EVERY YEAR, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST THINK IT'D BE, IT MIGHT BE GOOD IF WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT COLLECTED AS COMPARED TO WHAT WE DID YEAR BEFORE, PRIOR YEAR.
WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT AN ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, DICK.
DO NEED ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS OF OUR COUNTY TAX? I WOULD CONSIDER ACCEPT YOU COMMISSIONER.
I MOVE TO ACCEPT COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING A TRUCK, SUV FOR THE
FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO, UH, PURCHASE A VEHICLE.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE QUOTE, UH, GC CONTRACT.
UH, 29,000, I'M SORRY, 26,000 9 61 17.
SINCE THAT PARTICULAR VEHICLE ACTUALLY INCREASED, UH, JANUARY ONE, ABOUT 35.
HOWEVER, I HAVE THAT ON HOLD PENDING APPROVAL.
UH, I KNOW THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS SOME OTHER EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, HE HAS THE BACK OF PICKUP PROBABLY HAD REAL GOOD USE FOR A SU FOR THIS.
AND, UH, WE OUT THE FIRE CODE FUND WILL NOT IMPACT THE BUDGET THAT MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT FOR.
LIKE THIS IS, YEAH, HE'LL BE REPLACING, I'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATION.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT WE DO WITH THE EXISTING PICK? WE, WE WILL BE SELLING ONE ADOPTION.
CAN, WILL THAT MONEY GO BACK INTO THAT, THAT FUND? IT WAS NOT PURCHASED FOR THAT FUND.
SO MAY I COME FORWARD FOR A SECOND? YES.
I, I WOULD ASSUME MOST PROBABLY IT DIDN'T COME OUT AS FUND, IT WAS RETURNED TO WHATEVER FUND AND DON IT TO GO BACK INTO THE OTHER POINT TO THIS IS CURRENTLY OUR VEHICLES ARE PURCHASED ON A, UH, PAYMENT PLAN TO THE BANK.
WE HAVE PAID ONE OFF, WHICH IS $377 A MONTH AT THIS POINT.
IF WE CAN GET THIS VEHICLE TO NOT HAVE TO USE THAT MONEY, WE CAN RETURN THAT $4,500 ALSO BACK INTO THE FUND.
SAVING THAT MONEY FROM THE TAX ROLLS AS WELL AS THE VEHICLE I'M DRIVING IS, UH, $6,000 A YEAR.
IT'LL BE PAID FOR IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
ULTIMATELY WITHIN TWO YEARS, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO RETURN THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF 13,000 4 48.
I CAN JUST GENERAL FUND FOR US ELSEWHERE, SAVING THAT MUCH AND BE ABLE TO PURCHASE ANY FUTURE VEHICLES OUT THIS FUND COST NO ANYTHING.
SO SAVING MONEY INTERESTED IN THAT.
LET'S START TODAY, HUH? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A THANK YOU LARRY.
A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.
SECOND COMMISSIONER MANNING HAS A SECOND DISCUSSION.
APPRECIATE THE, THE EFFORT YOU GUYS PUT INTO THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER FOR US GETTING, GETTING, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL.
ITEMS NINE AND 10 ARE VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE.
ONE OF 'EM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND READ NINE.
IT SAYS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION'S, NOMINATIONS OF KAMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSIONS FOR THE 2011 2012 TERM.
AND THEN ITEM 10 ALSO SAYS TO DISCUSS, AND I'M GONNA COMBINE THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT
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THEY'RE SIMILAR TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2011 2012 TERM OF THE COUNTY.WE, DID WE TABLE THAT BECAUSE OF THE WORDING? UH, WE DON'T REALLY NOMINATE, WE APPOINT PEOPLE TO THE, TO THE COMMISSION.
AND IF THEY, AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE APPOINT THESE PEOPLE AT THE NEXT, AT THE NEXT MEETING.
ON BOTH ITEMS. NINE AND 10 10? YES, SIR.
UH, BE COMPLETELY, UH, UH, LET'S, LET'S DO ITEM NINE.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE AND I THINK THERE IS SOME WORDING HERE WE PROBABLY NEED TO CLEAN UP A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO LET'S VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY.
LET'S, LET'S TABLE, OR YOU HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE SECOND.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND THE SAME THING ON OUT OF 10.
IS THAT YOUR MOTION? MY MOTION TO TABLE OUT.
TEN SECOND AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNY AS WELL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR? SAY A.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS, AND, AND, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER DOING IS IF YOU HAVE NOMINATIONS OR PEOPLE THAT, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE NOMINATED TO THIS COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION ITSELF.
MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT COMMUNICATED SO WE CAN GET THOSE NAMES AND SEE IF THEY WILL SERVE AS WELL.
BUT, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A, UH, A GOOD, GOOD IDEA FOR ALL OF US.
AND JAMIE, ARE YOU, I THINK I SAW, SAW YOU HERE EARLIER, UH, YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION AND WHAT WE DID.
AND, UH, WE'RE OPERATING, WE, NONE OF US ARE ACTUALLY LITTLE RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, THIS HAS BEEN TABLED SINCE THE FOURTH.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD OUR FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.
OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS GOING TO BE IN MARCH.
SO I'D LIKE TO GET US NOMINATED.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO IT BEFORE AND, 'CAUSE WE HAD PLANNED ON HAVING, WE HAD OUR MEETING YESTERDAY AND WE HAD PLANNED ON HAVING JUDGE WOOD
JUDGE WOOD LIKES TO ATTEND LUNCHEON
WE PLAN TO DO IT FOR YOU IF YOU'LL SWEAR US ALL IN.
WELL, AND I THINK WE CAN GET THIS DONE FAIRLY QUICK.
UH, AND I KNOW WE NEED TO GET EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, OFFICIAL AND SO WE WILL DO THAT.
I JUST THINK THERE'S A CONCERN OR TOO ABOUT THE WORDING ON THIS.
NOTHING MAJOR, BUT I THINK WE WANT TO, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE SHOULD BE APPOINTED BY THE END OF MONTH.
AND I, I NEED TO CHECK WITH YOUR SCHEDULE TO SEE WHEN WE WOULD BE IN FEBRUARY, WE WANTED TO WORK OUR LUNCHEON AROUND WHEN YOU COULD BE THERE AND EVERYBODY COULD BE THERE.
WE'LL WORK MAYBE ON A DAY WHEN THE COUNTY'S CLOSED.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE CLOSED TO GET UNTIL MARCH.
WELL OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE HAVING A, THE LUNCHEON IN FEBRUARY AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE IN FEBRUARY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ORIENTATION FOR ALL THE NEW APPOINTMENTS OKAY.
IN FEBRUARY BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO, AND, AND CLEAR UP ONE THING FOR ME, THERE IS NO SET LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN SERVE ON THIS.
UH, THERE IS, THERE'S NO SET LIMIT, BUT WE LIKE TO KIND OF LIMIT IT BECAUSE IF YOU GET IT TOO HEAVY, YOU NEVER GET A CONSENSUS ON IT.
AND WE LIKE TO HAVE ODD NUMBERS.
WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO HAVE AN ODD NUMBER OF, OF, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
SO, AND ALSO WE HAVE, I KNOW YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF, AND LET ME MENTION THAT WE, WE HAVE A 5 0 1 3 C FRIENDS OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION THAT ACTS AS OUR FUNDRAISING AND, UH, OUR, WE GO OUT AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO FUND THROUGH THE FRIENDS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T FUND THROUGH THE COUNTY FOR OTHER PRESERVATION GROUPS IN THE, AND WE HELP THEM A LOT TOO.
SO WE WORK WITH THE STATE THROUGH THE COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
WE ARE IN, WE GO BETWEEN, THROUGH THE STATE, WE GO BY THEIR, THEIR RULES AND THEN WHERE THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE STATE FOR THIS SERVICE COMMISSION.
SO, WHICH THAT'S, I MEAN, WE'RE MANDATED TO HAVE US RIGHT.
SO, WELL, THE, LET ME ASSURE YOU, THERE IS NO ATTEMPT TO NOT HAVE A HISTORICAL, I'M SURE THAT JUDGE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
ALL WE WANT DO IS, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO, JAMIE, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AS MUCH EQUAL REPRESE UH, REPRESENTATION
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FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY.IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON YOUR, UH, LIST THERE, WE'VE GOT THE PRECINCTS OUT BESIDE PEOPLE THAT WERE, THAT YOU'RE POINTING AND WE TRY TO KEEP IT EQUAL.
AND WE'RE ADURING IN PRECINCT TWO, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME PROSPECTS TO COME THERE TOO.
I THINK PRECINCT FOUR MAY NEED, UH, AN EXTRA ONE OR TWO.
I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT LIST FOR SOME REASON.
I HAVE SOME HERE THAT'S NOT BEEN INCLUDED ON YOUR, IN YOUR YET.
THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU'LL BE VOTING ON.
AND, UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO INVOLVE THE FRIENDS IN OUR EVENTS, IN OUR, IN, IN THE WORK WE DO.
SO WE'LL HAVE MORE, UH, OUTSIDE PARTICIPATION IN, IN OUR PROJECTS.
AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, THE CITY AND, AND, UH, THE OTHER CHAMBERS AND, AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THE ECONOMIC
TRY TO DO THAT TOO AND GET, EXPAND OUR RESOURCES BIT.
YOU CAN DO THAT THROUGH THE FRIENDS.
NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING A COMMITTEE TO ACCESS OR TO ASSESS COURTHOUSE ACCESS CONTROL SESSION.
WE'VE GOT LOTS OF ACCESSES AND ACCESS.
SO GEORGE, YOU WANT TO GIVE US YES, SIR.
UH, A LITTLE BACKGROUND BACK IN 2004, SHORTLY AFTER WE MOVED INTO OUR NEW JAIL AND TO ANSWER SOME OF THE COURTHOUSE SHOOTINGS THAT WERE GOING ON AT THE TIME, WE PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE TEAM AND WE DECIDED TO DO ACCESS CONTROL AND CAMERAS IN COURTHOUSE.
WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE DOORS, WITH THE MAG LOCKS.
BASICALLY WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS IN THERE.
ONE IS A WAY TO SECURE AND LOCK DOWN THE DOORS.
AND PARALLEL TO THAT, WE HAVE A ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.
UM, WITHIN THE LAST, UH, YEAR, MAYBE SIX MONTHS, WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE HARDWARE THAT RUNS THE LOCKDOWN SYSTEM AND WITH THE DOORS.
AND WE'VE GOT MARYANNE BRIGGS WITH US HERE TODAY.
SHE'S HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORK WITH SOME OF OUR VENDORS ON THAT.
AND I THINK OUR POINT HERE IS TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A TEAM TO LOOK AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE, WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE, AND MAYBE HAVE SOME FOLKS, UH, WHO WORK ON THE DOORS THEMSELVES.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE FRED, UM, FRED GUTHRIE.
WE CERTAINLY NEED MARYANNE BRIGGS.
WE SPOKE TO, UH, THE CHIEF DEPUTIES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION ON THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE FOR SERGEANT BRIGGS TO BE ON IT.
AND WE THOUGHT MAYBE PURCHASING AND FOR THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE, SOMEONE FROM, SO BASICALLY THAT'S IT.
IF WE WOULD JUST KIND OF DO, LIKE WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FIGURE THERE'S WISDOM AND A MULTITUDE COUNSELORS AND WE'LL PUT A TEAM TOGETHER AND REPORT BACK TO THE COURT.
I THINK I'D LIKE TO BE ON THERE SINCE IT'S HERE.
SO WHO, WHO ALL ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? I DIDN'T WRITE ALL THE, WELL, WE HAD, UH, JACK, HE WAS INVOLVED, UH, BACK IN OH FOUR WHEN WE WENT OUT TO BID AND AWARDED IT TO OUR CURRENT VENDOR.
AND I WOULD BE, OR SOMEONE FROM IT BECAUSE OF THE UNDERLYING TECHNOLOGY.
UH, OF COURSE COMMISSION WAS ROUTING, UH, AND FOR SECURITY, WE WOULD WANT SERGEANT BRIGGS WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY.
AND, UH, PROBABLY SOMEONE FROM MAINTENANCE, MAYBE FRED, FRED GUTHRIE.
FRED WILL BE BACK PRETTY SOON.
I THINK HE'S OFFERING A COUPLE.
BUT WHEN DO YOU TECHNICALLY NEED TO START THIS? UH, FAIRLY SOON.
AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS NOT ONLY FOR THE COURTHOUSE, BUT WE RUN, UH, CAMERAS AND SECURITY IN ALL THE BUILDINGS, ALL THE COURTHOUSE.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A RATHER COMPREHENSIVE, UH, WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, BUT, UH, THAT'S SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
SO THIS JUST DOES NOT APPLY TO THE, TO THE, UH, MAIN COURTHOUSE? NO.
AND THE BEST, THE SECURITY ANYWHERE WHERE WE HAVE ACCESS CONTROL.
THE VENDOR BACK IN OH FOUR, UM, THAT SAME SYSTEM AS IN MANY BUILDINGS ACROSS THE COUNTY, NOT HAVE THE FORM ON TOMMY.
HE'S ONE TO SERVE ON THAT TO GET HIM.
I WAS GONNA ASK YOU, BEING THE NEW MEAT ON THE COURT.
SO WE HAVE, UH, MARYANNE BRIGGS.
WE HAVE JACK SEBASTIAN, GEORGE YORK, UH, OUR DESIGNEE, UH, PROPERTY YARD, YOU KNOW, AND THEN COMMISSIONER, UM, ROB, UH, FRED GUTHRIE, AND TOM MAN AS PEOPLE
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TO SERVE ON THIS, UH, COURTHOUSE SECURITY ACCESS, UH, ISSUE.BRIDGE, RIGG, SERGEANT BRIDGE.
UH, WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, I'M, AND I WANT TO TESTIFY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY DURING THE, THE TIME WE WERE OFF, UH, FOR I GUESS, UH, NEW YEAR'S TIME.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE OFF ON THAT FRIDAY, AND THEN ON THE FIRST OR THE SECOND, OR THE DAY AFTER THE NEW YEAR'S, THE NEW DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND I HAPPENED TO BE IN THE COURTHOUSE AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON ACTUALLY.
AND WE WERE SOMEWHAT NEW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OUR NEW LITTLE BADGE THING HERE.
AND, AND SO WE, THIS HAPPENED TO RUN INTO EACH OTHER AND OUR WIVES WERE WITH US, SO WE HAD A DISCUSSION AT THE FRONT DOOR OF THE COURTHOUSE AND BOTH OF US WEREN'T AFRAID, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GONNA GET ARRESTED OR, YOU KNOW, SPREAD EAGLE ON THE FLOOR OR WHATEVER.
AND WE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING WE COULD AND, BUT WE FORGOT.
WE, WE HAVE THE DOOR OPEN A LITTLE TOO LONG, AND LET ME ASSURE YOU, THE ALARM DOES GO OFF.
AND SO WE QUICKLY VACATED THE BUILDING AND TRY TO GET OUT BEFORE ANY COP SHOWED UP.
SO,
WE HAD KIND OF A LAUGH ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANNA MAKE THE NEWS PARTICULARLY BEING ARRESTED AT THE COURTHOUSE.
ALL RIGHT, GEORGE, YOU WANT TO GIVE US NOW A PRESENTATION ON THE IT COMMITTEE AND WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING.
UH, JUDGE, THERE WERE FOUR DIFFERENT TOPICS.
WE, UH, WE WENT OVER THIS LAST MEETING, UH, SOME WE HAD TOUCHED ON PRIOR.
UM, THE FIRST ONE, WE MADE A POINT OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE, THE UNDERLYING HARDWARE THAT RUNS THAT SOFTWARE IS AS COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK IS SO FOND OF THE TERM END OF LIFE.
AND, UH, WE, ABOVE THAT TERM, WE HAD EXPLORED THE OPPORTUNITY OF, UM, NEW FINANCIAL SOFTWARE TO DEAL WITH, UH, MANY ISSUES WITH OUR CURRENT SYSTEM.
WE LOOKED AT A COMPANY CALLED INCODE, WHICH IS A PILOT COMPANY, AND WE RECEIVED A QUOTE, WHICH IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.
AND WE, TOGETHER, WE DECIDED THAT AT THIS TIME WE WERE GOING TO TABLE THAT EFFORT.
WE WERE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A REDUNDANT SYSTEM IN CASE OF FAILURE OF OUR EXISTING HARDWARE, SO WE WOULD HAVE NO DOWNTIME.
SO BASICALLY THE INCODE FINANCIAL SUITE OF SOFTWARE WERE AT THIS TIME WERE THAT TABLE LIGHT ISSUE.
UM, ANOTHER ISSUE WE DISCUSSED WAS THERE HAS BEEN AN EFFORT OVER MANY YEARS TO USE THE LINEBARGER LAW FIRM TO COLLECT OUTSTANDING, UH, FINES AND COURT COSTS FOR THE JP COURTS COUNTY COURT AND SO ON.
UM, WE CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE SINCE SEPTEMBER HAVE BEEN USING THE LINE MARGARET LAW FIRM IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
AND JUDGE WOOD, UH, HAD A, UH, MEETING, WAS IT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, BROUGHT IN ALL THE JPS AND CONSTABLES AND WE ARE ONCE AGAIN MOVING FORWARD WITH AN EFFORT TO COLLECT THE FEES, OUTSTANDING FEES IN THE JP COURT.
AND OUT OF THE MEETING CAME A FEW, UH, POSSIBLE CHANGES IN THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS TODAY WHEN A FINE AND COURT CAUTION IS RECEIVED BY MANY OF THE COURTS, THE, UM, THE TRADITION HAD BEEN TO SEND IT TO OMNI FOR COLLECTION THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN IT DIDN'T TAKE SO LONG TO GET YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE RENEWED.
HOWEVER, TODAY WITH A SIX YEAR WAIT AND AMONG A FEW OTHER THINGS, IT'S NOT QUITE AS SUCCESSFUL AS IT HAD BEEN.
SO TOGETHER, I BELIEVE THE DIRECTION IS GOING TO BE TO ISSUE WARRANTS.
THE SHERIFF OFFERED TO HELP IN A WAR ROUNDUP PROGRAM WITH THE CONSTABLES AND TO, FOR THE FIRST 60 OR 90 DAYS, TRY TO PURSUE THOSE OUTSTANDING FEES AND COURT CONS AND THEN TURN 'EM OVER TO THE
AT THE MEETING WE COMMITTED TO PRESENTING TWO YEARS OF DATA TO LYBARGER.
THAT WOULD BE 2008 AND 2009 TO RUN AN INITIAL COLLECTION EFFORT ON THIS.
UM, SHORTLY AFTER THE MEETING, WE PRESENTED THE, UH, DATA TO THE CLERKS OF THE COURT AND JPS, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON
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THE DATA, CLEANING IT UP.UM, ONE ISSUE HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN, SINCE EACH COURT CONDUCTS BUSINESS DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHERS, THE WAY THE DATA, UM, EXISTS IN OUR DATABASE IS NOT CONSISTENT ACROSS THE JP COURTS.
SO WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR SO, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE DATA, CLEANING IT UP.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING OF PRECINCT FOUR IS DONE AND READY.
UM, WE HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING TO, UH, KIND OF A, A WORKING MEETING.
IT'S GONNA BE THIS THURSDAY AT ONE IN THIS OFFICE, IN THIS, THIS ROOM AT THAT TIME.
UM, DAN ROMO, I DON'T THINK KIM TO TONY ROMO.
AND OF COURSE JEFF WILL BE, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER SOME DATA FOR THEM.
AND HOPEFULLY OUR COMMITMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, BY FEBRUARY 1ST.
FROM, FROM THE PRECINCT FOUR OR FROM, NO, WELL, WHAT WE DID IS WE WE'RE REQUESTING THAT EACH JP BRING THE DATA THEY'VE COMPLETED SO THAT THURSDAY WE CAN, UH, HAVE A GOOD MEETING WITH LINEBARGER AND PRESENT THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO THEM AT THAT TIME.
SO ALL OF ALL OF THEM WE HAVE TO, YES.
AND OUR COMMITMENT IS TO GET THAT DATA IN THOSE FIRST TWO YEARS TO THEN BY THE END, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
AND I, I'VE SEEN A REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT.
ONCE THAT GETS TURNED OVER TO LINEBARGER, CAN WE STILL TRY TO COLLECT IT OR IS IT OUR YEAH, AND THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT, UH, WAS BROUGHT UP IN OUR MEETING.
THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT OUR COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT CAN NO LONGER TOUCH THAT, UH, WORK BILL.
THAT'S, WE FOUND IS NOT THE CASE.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND IN FACT, JEFF BROWN FROM LINEBARGER SAID, WE KNOW TECHNICALLY WE JUST WANNA COLLECT THE MONEY.
AND IF WE WIND UP COLLECTING IT, THEY WON'T BE CHARGING US A FEE.
IS THAT CORRECT, OR? WELL, IT'S NOT, THEY DON'T REALLY CHARGE US THE FEE.
WELL, WE PRESENT THE DATA TO LINEBARGER, OUR DATABASE SOFTWARE WILL MODIFY WHAT'S DUE AND ADD A FEE ONTO THE TOTAL DUE.
SO, SO IF WE COLLECTED, THEY'LL STILL BE PAYING THE FEE THEY WOULD BE PAYING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WILL PAY THE FINDING COURT COSTS DUE AND NOT THAT EXTRA BIOGRAPHY IF WE COLLECT IT.
I DON'T SEE HOW, BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THE SOFTWARE FOR OUTSIDE COLLECTIONS, YOU HAVE TO INCREASE IT 30%.
SO THAT IS A QUESTION WE'RE GONNA ASK, UH, THURSDAY.
WE'RE GONNA ASK JEFF AND DAN WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS.
IT'S AN UNKNOWN TO THIS QUESTION, BUT ONCE AGAIN, WHEN WE MODIFY THE DATA, WE ACTUALLY PUT THAT ASSESSMENT AS PART OF THE TOTAL DUE.
SO WHEN THEY RECEIVE IT, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY BUILT IN.
SO IF WE DO COMPLETE IT, WHO ALL IS INVITED TO THIS MEETING? THE SAME TEAM, THE SAME FOCUS THAT YOU HAD AT YOUR MEETING.
OKAY, SO WE'RE INVITING ALL JPS YES.
AND ANYBODY FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
I MEAN, ANYBODY'S INVITED I GUESS.
AND AS WE DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY, AND EVERYBODY, I, NOT ALL OF YOU WERE IN THAT MEETING, BUT THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF FINES OUT THERE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GO AFTER.
AND THIS IS THE QUICKEST WAY WE THINK TO GO AFTER THIS INITIAL AMOUNT AND THE CONSTABLES THAT WERE THERE THE DAY, JO JOAN, I KNOW YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT, BUT I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT OVER THERE IN CORNY.
PATRICIA, I ON TALKED OF HER, BUT THIS, CONSIDERING WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY AS A COUNTY, THIS IS ONE THING THAT IS MONEY THAT IS LEGITIMATELY OWED TO US, THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY MAKE A BIG HIT, A BIG DIFFERENCE IN OUR BUDGET, THIS CURRENTLY BUDGET, WHICH WILL REALLY HELP US.
SO I WOULD PLAN ON BEING AT THAT MEETING, ANY OTHER MEETING AS WE, YOU KNOW, AS WE PROGRESS ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE, BUT, UH, REALLY, YOU KNOW, DO THIS AND, UH, PEOPLE HAVE PLED GUILTY OR THEY, WHATEVER THEY'VE DONE TO FIND EXISTED LEGITIMATELY OWED THE COUNTY.
THIS WILL GO A LONG WAY IN GETTING THAT HACK AND IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
BUT YOU FROM WHERE WE WERE TWO WEEKS AGO, WHERE WE WE PROGRESSED ALONG.
GEORGE, UH, IN, IN THE ROUNDUP TRYING TO COLLECT THESE FEES, WOULD IT BE ADVANTAGE TO US TO GET THE CITIES INVOLVED WITH THE ROUNDUP? I'LL DIRECT THAT TO THE CONSTABLES.
THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FINAL COURT COSTS FROM THE JP COURTS.
UM, BUT THE CITIES, I KNOW THE SHERIFF IS GONNA BE INVOLVED IN THE ROUNDUP.
UM, I WOULD NOT WHEN I, THE CITY, THE REASON I ASKED, I I, I TALKED WITH THE COUNCILMAN THE OTHER DAY AND HIS IDEA WAS THERE'S PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF OVER THE COUNTY, SO IF YOU DON'T DO A ROUNDUP, LET'S DO IT ALL TOGETHER.
AND I, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGE TO THE COUNTY TO HAVE THE CITIES.
HE JUST THINK IT'S VICE VERSA.
THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY, PROBABLY THE CITY FINDS
LET'S SAY I'M DRIVING DOWN THE STREET AND
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I'VE GOT A, A WARRANT OUT THERE AFTER ME, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME TICKET.I DON'T THINK I DO, BUT LET'S JUST SAY I DO.
AND, UH, SOMEBODY ELSE, A CITY OFFICER STOPS ME HERE IN CATON AND DOES THE DRIVER'S LICENSE CHECK, WILL ANYTHING SHOW UP? IT WILL NOW IT, IT, THE WAY WE WERE DOING BUSINESS, IT WOULDN'T BECAUSE WHEN WE SENT IT TO OMNI, THERE'S NO WARRANT EXCEPT IN PRECINCT FORWARD.
NOW CONSTABLE MORRIS, HE'S ALWAYS, UM, WORK TIPS.
IN FACT, HE DOES THE DOOR HANGER THING WHEN HE KNOW GOES, GOES OUT TO THE HOUSE, LEAVES A MESSAGE, SAYS HE WAS THERE INSTALLING IN HIS CASE, YES.
BUT IF IT WENT TO OMNI AND THERE'S NO WARRANT, THE ANSWER IS NOT.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IN OUR LAST MEETING AND WHAT WE'RE THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IS TO, AND THE FIRST 60 OR 90 DAYS ISSUE THE WARRANT AND GET THAT OUT THERE.
AND I GUESS DIFFERENT CITIES, YOU GUYS CAN STEP IN HERE.
I GUESS DIFFERENT CITIES HANDLE IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
WOULD SOMETIME THE OFFICER LET THAT PERSON GO IF THERE'S AN OUTSTANDING WARRANT OUT THERE.
SOME PLACES JUDGE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO THAT AS OFFICER DISCRETION.
IF THEY WANT ARREST THE MAJORITY OF D PS AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL ARREST IN CLASS C ONES.
IS THAT KIND OF WHAT JC YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITIES TO, I, I THINK A, A GOOD POINT THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, THERE'S A CHIEF'S ASSOCIATION AND UH, THEY GET TOGETHER ON GOOD.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD POINT TO GET THE SHERIFF, UH, SINCE HE COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY IS PRESENT THAT TO THEM AND I THINK WE COULD GET THEM TO JOIN TOGETHER.
BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU DEAL WITH, THEY HAVE COUNTY WARRANTS MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CITY WARRANTS ALSO.
AND VICE, WHEN YOU GUYS STOP SOMEBODY IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON THE CON, DOES THAT WORK THE SAME WAY IF THEY HAVE A CITY WARRANT JUST POSTED, DO YOU, DO YOU NORMALLY ARREST THEM OR, OR TRY TO GET THE FINE OR IT, IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE SU ON, ON THE STOP, BUT GENERALLY, YES, WE'LL MAKE AN ARREST.
WE CAN'T COLLECT ON CITY FINES.
WELL, THAT'S A GOOD THING TO MAYBE DISCUSS ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT CHIEF MEETING AS WELL.
SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? UH, WHAT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WITH GEORGE? I THINK, YOU KNOW, LEO AND I TALKED ABOUT, AND SHE'S OUR, OUR CHIEF CLERK.
OUR RECENT BOARD IS ALSO SITTING OUT JUST MAKING A GENERIC LETTER.
EACH OFFICE HAS TO SEND OUT TO, LET KNOW, I RUN IN THE PAPER, JOE GOT THE FROM JOE RUN AT IN THE PAPER AND, UH, LET 'EM KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT ANY OUTSTANDING WARRANTS OUT OF OUR PRECINCT, NOW'S TIME TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
UH, THAT WAY THERE'S NO EMBARRASSING TRIPS FOR US TO SHOW UP AT YOUR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT OR YOUR HOME, UH, TRYING TO COLLECT ON FINES OR, OR TAKE TO THE COUNTY JAIL END DAY.
WE'RE MONEY, WE'RE NOT WANTING THEM SET IN JAIL.
SO, UH, BUT I THINK A GENERIC LETTER ON TOP OF RUNNING SOMETHING IN THE PAPER, JUST A GENERIC LETTER FOR EACH PRECINCT HAVE TO MAIL OUT FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S GOT FIRES, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT, A LOT, LOT OF MAIL, BUT IT'S STILL CONTACT TO LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO AGGRESSIVELY SEEK THESE FINES.
AND IF WE DON'T MAKE CONTACT WITH WILLIAM, WHATEVER THE TIME WE GIVE MY LAWYER, THEN THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND I'M ASSUMING IS THAT SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO REPORT ON THEIR CREDIT, GEORGE, IF THEY DON'T PAY THESE FINES? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE? UM, YOU'RE SAYING AFTER THEY MAKE INITIAL CONTACT WITH THESE FOLKS, RIGHT? THEY'RE LIKE A COLLECTION AGENCY, CORRECT? MM-HMM
THE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, THEY'LL CALL ON THE PHONE OR SEND 'EM SOME TYPE OF CORRESPONDENCE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THEY CAN SAY THAT THEY CAN REPORT TO THE CREDIT BUREAU IF THEY OWE A FINE? THAT'S AN NO NO.
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR, UH, WE MIGHT WANT TO BRING THAT UP THURSDAY IN OUR MEETING.
I'M SURE THE LAST 18 MONTHS WE, WE'VE GOT A HOT PINK FLYER AND WE BRING IT IN THE PAPER FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY MAY HAVE ONE CONTACT OUR OFFICE, WE'LL TELL YOU WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT.
AND THEN WE GET THE KNOCK AND TALK AND ON THE KNOCK AND TALK.
JUST OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, WE WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO $60,000 GETTING PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR MONEY IN.
AND THAT'S A WIN-WIN BECAUSE NOBODY GOES TO THE JAIL.
I MEAN, HOW FEED 'EM AND LIKE THIS, THEY GET THE TICKET OFF THEIR BACK AND, AND IT'S DONE DEAL.
UH, WE JUST, WE JUST NEED THE STAGNANT WARRANT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.
WE HAD AN ASTRONOM AMOUNT OF STAGNANT WARRANTS.
RIGHT? AND WHENEVER YOU HANG THAT HIGH PEAK DEAL ON THE DOOR, THEY KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT WHERE THEY LIVE AND THAT YOU WILL BE BACK.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT WORKS PRETTY SUCCESSFULLY.
SO IF ANYBODY GETS HOME TODAY AND THEY HAVE A HOT TEAM NOTICE ON DOOR BETTER.
YOU GOT THAT PART? YEAH, I, I'M GONNA CHECK MY NOTES.
GEORGE, UH, TWO OTHER, TWO OTHER DOORS ON THAT ONE.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, BRING A COUPLE POINTS IN AND USING OUTSIDE FIRM TO BRING IT TO COLLECT THOSE LEADS.
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UH, SEVERAL OF US THOUGHT THAT WAS BEING DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.I THINK WE STARTED THIS IN 2005, WHERE WE HAVE GOING ON ALONG THAT.
SO, SO I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT MUCH MONEY IS AFTER THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ACCESS TO OVER THESE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WHEN WE REALLY NEED, UH, WE'LL ENCOURAGE, UH, EVERYBODY IN THE LAW FIRMS INCLUDED TO AGGRESSIVELY GO AFTER THIS MONEY.
UH, SOME COUNTIES, UH, ONE COUNTY IN, IN ECTRA COUNTY AT BY MIDLAND, THEY'RE USING ONE LAW FIRM TO COLLECT FOR THE FIRST 60 DAYS, THEN THEY TURN OVER TO ANOTHER LAW FIRM AND COLLECT THE, THE NEXT 60 DAYS OR FROM THEREAFTER.
DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S WORKING AFTER.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE FIRST ONE'S GETTING ALL THE GRAVY, BUT IT, THAT'S SOMEWHAT OF AN OPTION.
DO, UH, IT MIGHT SPUR THAT FIRST LAW FIRM IN TO WORK A LITTLE HARDER BECAUSE THEY'RE KNOW IN 60 DAYS SOMEBODY ELSE GONNA GET SHOT THAT MONEY.
THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT LOOK INTO.
THE SECOND THING IS THEY USE TWO LAW FIRMS, ONE FOR
THOSE TWO LAW FIRMS THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN COMPETITION WITH EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE BOTH TRYING HARD TO KEEP THEIR BUSINESS AND ALSO TRY TO GET THE OTHER GUYS' BUSINESS.
AND SO THEY'RE WORKING REAL HARD TO COLLECT BOTH ADMIR WARRANT TAXES, DELINQUENT TAXES, AND DELINQUENT BINDING FEES.
AND I WOULD THINK I WOULD LOCK US LOOK INTO ALL THOSE OPTIONS.
I'VE GOT AN OPTION ABOUT NOW TO USE ONE FIRM TO DO ALL, WE'D HAVE AN OPTION USING TWO FIRMS, HAVE AN OPTION USING ONE FIRM FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND SOMEBODY ELSE FOR THE DURATION ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES ARE BEST.
I JUST KNOW THERE'S, UH, SOME OTHER S DO IT WITH SUCCESS.
I'D LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO THAT.
I THINK, IN MY OPINION, I THINK ALL THAT KIND OF NEEDS TO BE ON THE TABLE FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE BEST JOB THAT WE CAN GET FROM THESE FOLKS BECAUSE IT DOES, IT DOES AFFECT OUR BOTTOM LINE.
YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THAT REGARD.
WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN.
THEN IT DOESN'T COST YOU ANYTHING.
LITTLE COMPETITION ALWAYS MAKES THEM WORK HARDER, RIGHT? I I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D WANT TO COMPLICATE IT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE, WE NEED TO ASK SOME, SOME GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT'S WORKING IN OTHER PLACES.
I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING SOMEBODY DO IT FOR 60 DAYS AND THEN SOMEBODY I DON'T, IT'S KIND OF AN UNUSUAL THING.
KEEP ME IN TOUCH ON HALF WORKING FOR, THERE'S AN EXPERIMENTAL PLAN.
UH, WE BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON, UM, SOMETHING WHICH CAME UP, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK JACK BROUGHT IT UP.
IT WAS A, UM, AN OFFER FROM PITNEY BOWES TO SAVE MONEY ON OUR MAIL OUT WHAT WE MAIL OUT.
UM, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, OF MAIL OF COURSE COMES OUT, THE TAX OFFICE MONEY COMES OUT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COURTS AND SO ON.
UM, I THINK WHAT ALL WAS SAID AND DONE, WE RECALL COMMISSIONER CLARK, I THINK WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WHEN WE FINISHED OUR CONVERSATION WAS TO PURSUE THE COSTS OF FARMING OUT SOME OF OUR MAIL OUTS.
SO NOW TODAY WE, WE DO THE TAX STATEMENTS INHOUSE AND I THINK THE WAY WE LEFT IT WAS WE WERE GONNA WEIGH THAT AGAINST THE COST OF FARMING OUT, UM, MAILING OUR TAX STATEMENTS OUT AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
SO THAT WAS TABLED, I THINK, TO DO THAT RESEARCH THAT THE, THE POSTING MACHINE, WHICH, UH, WOULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT IN THAT CONVERSATION WAS WHY DON'T WE GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND TRY TO SAVE MORE MONEY.
UH, WHAT WE DISCOVERED WAS ONE MINUTE WE'RE TALKING IN THIS COMMITTEE ABOUT A 250,000 PIECE OF SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE NEEDING, WANTING TO BUY THE MONEY.
SO WE'RE WANTING TO MOVE UP HERE IN THE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT WAY UP HERE.
THE NEXT DAY WE'LL TALK ABOUT HAND STUFFING 115,000 ENVELOPES, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO NOW, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO NOW, WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? WHY WOULD WE PUT A POY STAMP ON THERE? WHY WOULD WE NOT DO BULK MAIL? YOU KNOW, IF WE GET FOR 19 CENTS OR 22 CENTS VERSUS 44 CENTS, ONLY 115,000 PIECES.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE, WE WERE DISCUSSING MAYBE SEEING WHAT OTHER COUNTIES DO AND SEE IF THEY DO OUTSOURCE.
MAYBE WE NEED TO BUY AN ENVELOPE STUFF INSTEAD OF HAVING OUR GIRLS PUT 115,000 PIECES RETURN MAIL.
AND IF YOU DO THE BUCK MAIL, I'M NOT SURE YOU GET A RETURN BACK MAIL.
YEAH, BUT I MEAN, THAT'D BE WORTH, IT'D BE EASY ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING.
YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING WE TALKED ABOUT, THINK A MINUTE OR TWO THIS, WE HAVE SPENT PROBABLY SINCE BUDGET TIME, QUITE A LOT, A LOT OF TIME ON, AND IT'S GONNA BE THE, UH, CELL PHONE, UH, AIR CAR ISSUE.
WE, UM, USED A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND SOMEONE I'VE KNOWN FOR MANY YEARS NAMED DON BELL.
WE BROUGHT HIM IN EIGHT YEARS AGO TO AUDIT
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AND REVIEW OUR BILLING, TELCO BILLING OR OUR TELEPHONE BILLING.UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT EFFORT, HE WAS ABLE TO SAVE US.
AND BY THE WAY, HE CHARGED NO MONEY UP FRONT.
ANY, ANY MONEY HE RECEIVED WAS, WAS OUT OF WHAT WE SAVED.
WHAT WE GOT BACK THAT EFFORT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET REFUNDS FROM THE IRS FROM THE STATE, UH, PICK CHARGES AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT THE COUNTY WAS PAYING THAT SHOULDN'T, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE TO PAY.
SO WE WERE RECEIVED A LOT OF MONEY BACK AND GOING FORWARD THAT REDUCED OUR OVERALL EXPENSES.
WE BROUGHT HIM IN AGAIN ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO BECAUSE TYPICAL TO THE INDUSTRY WHEN, UM, YOU WILL BE SLAMMED AND TAXED AND CHARGES WILL BE, UH, ON YOUR PHONE BILLS AGAIN.
AND ONCE AGAIN, HE FOUND A BUNCH OF CHARGES.
AND SO, UM, WE DECIDED TO USE DON WITH, WITH THIS, UH, CELL PHONE EFFORT TODAY.
HE, UM, HE'S A CONSULTANT FOR THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY SIERRA, UH, ORGANIZATION.
HE'S INVOLVED, IN FACT, HE'S INVOLVED IN THE SAME GROUP THAT I'M IN.
I'M ON THE, UM, OVERSIGHT AND IT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THERE.
HE IS A CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT TO, UH, GET SOFTWARE STATEWIDE.
UM, SO HE'S VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN STATE GOVERNMENT.
UM, AND DON, WE BROUGHT HIM IN TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS WHOLE CELL PHONE THING, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE PAYING AND WHERE WE, WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
SO, UH, HE PRESENTED HIS REPORT TO THE COMMITTEE AND, AND INSTEAD OF ME TRYING TO REHASH IT WITH THE COURT'S PERMISSION, I WANT TO BRIEFLY LET DON JUST KIND OF GIVE A 30,000 FOOT VIEW AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD.
AND AFTER THAT, JACK IS GOING TO BE UP WITH, UH, SOME SUGGESTIONS.
HAVE WE GOT COPIES OF THIS FOR EVERYBODY? UH, WE'VE GOT COPIES.
HERE'S KIND OF A, UH, SUMMARY, KIND OF A 30,000 FOOT VIEW OF THE, UH, EFFORTS NOW.
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO,
AND, UH, SO, SO YOU KNOW, I WAS ASKED TO GET ARMED AROUND, UH, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING HERE AT KAUFMAN COUNTY? SO THE PRIMARY FOCUS WAS TO REDUCE COST, UH, SIMPLIFY THE BILLING PROCESS.
UH, THEY'RE PAYING MAYBE 20, UH, 20, AT LEAST 20 BILLS.
UH, IT COMES IN DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE MONTH.
SO THERE'S NOT JUST HARD COSTS, UH, THAT YOU'RE ENGAGED WITH ON THIS, BUT THERE'S SOFT COSTS TO EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THE BACKSIDE OF THESE, PROCESSING ALL THESE PAYMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND THEN EVALUATING WHAT ARE THE BEST OPTIONS FOR COST MONEY.
UH, LOOK AT THREE MONTHS OF BILLING SAMPLES.
I ANALYZED THAT WITH THE AUDITORS, UH, MET WITH THE IT ADVISORY TEAM.
UH, WE MET WITH THE CURRENT VENDORS, UH, WHICH WAS VERIZON SPRINT AND AT AND T UH, YOU KNOW, WE MET WITH THE VENDORS, MET WITH PURCHASING, WHO HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH ONE OF THESE VENDORS.
AND, UH, JUST BASICALLY WE DID SOME PHONE TRIALS WITH, UH, UH, WITH THE PHONES IN THE COUNTIES BECAUSE THE MAIN CONCERN WITH CELLULAR TECHNOLOGY IS COVERAGE.
OBVIOUSLY KAMAN COUNTY'S A HUGE COUNTY AND UH, HAS A LOT OF FOOTPRINT AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT RURAL AREAS.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST COVERAGE.
AND CAN WE CONSOLIDATE THE ONE CARRIER THAT WAS A QUESTION, CAN WE SAVE MONEY, CONSOLIDATE FOR ONE CARRIER? SO WE, WE ANALYZE ALL THAT.
UH, UNDER THE ANALYSIS SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU'RE PAYING AROUND 14,000, UH, 500 SOMETHING LIKE THAT PER MONTH IN CELLULAR BILLS.
UH, ANNUAL BILLING, ABOUT SOME HUNDRED $72,000, AROUND 145 PHONES THAT YOU HAVE, UH, IN THE COUNTY.
AND THIS INCLUDES THE, SO DPS IS ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR, UH, DPS AND UH, AND ADULT PROBATION OR PASS THROUGH ACCOUNTS WHERE THE COUNTY PAYS FOR THE BILL.
UH, BUT THEY'RE REIMBURSED FOR THAT MONEY, UH, SO THAT IT'S NOT COMING OUT ACTUALLY IMPACTING THE BUDGET.
CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FOR, I THINK DURING OUR LAST, DURING THE BUDGET SESSION, I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, I THINK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOW.
YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT THAT'S THESE 145 FOLLOW THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE, THAT INCLUDES EVERYBODY SHARES PHONES TOO.
SO THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE, PART OF THE OVERALL SAYING THE NET NET OF THIS WAS SAVINGS THAT PULLING THE SHERIFF'S BONES, UH, OUT OF THAT.
AND THEN THE COST SAVINGS FOR POTENTIALLY STANDARDIZING, UH, OKAY.
WOULD RESULT IN A, IN A PARTICULAR NUMBER WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE.
AND I, I'LL, I KNOW THIS IS AN ABBREVIATED VERSION, I'LL BE VERY QUICK.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FOUND VERY QUICKLY WAS SECURING 77,000, YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SMALL PLANS.
DEPARTMENTS HAD GONE OUT AND GOT THEIR OWN PLANS AND YOU KNOW, TO NO FAULT TO THEM, THERE WAS JUST NO CENTRALIZED WAY TO DO THIS.
THREE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS, THREE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS PRETTY MUCH
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MAINLY THROUGH SPRINT.UH, NEXTEL WAS PRIMARILY AT THE PRECINCTS AND THAT WAS BEING USED PRIMARILY FOR TWO-WAY RADIO.
UH, NOT REALLY FOR CELLULAR SERVICES AND, UH, BUT JUST WITH AT T ALONE, YOU'RE CARRYING 77,000 MINUTES OF ROLLOVER MINUTES THAT WOULD CONTINUE.
THOSE ARE MINUTES THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR, THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA USE.
AND, AND OF THOSE YOU'RE HAVING ABOUT A THOUSAND MINUTES EXPIRE EVERY MONTH.
WELL, THAT, OR JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THAT THE PLANS THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR WERE OVER PLANNED.
SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND, AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY THAN MAYBE, THAN WHAT THEY HAD BUDGETED IN, IN THE INITIAL STAGES.
UH, SO BOTTOM LINE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT, UH, CONSOLIDATING TO ONE CARRIER, MET WITH THREE VENDORS UH, DETERMINED THAT AT AND T HAD THE BEST COVERAGE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
AND THEN THEY WOULD COME, THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, FROM A PRICING PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST THE DR CONTRACT.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL ACCOUNTS FOR THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE A CORPORATE ACCOUNT, UH, WORKING WITH CORPORATE ENTITIES AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT BENEFIT.
AND YOU CURRENTLY DON'T, YOU HAD SOME ACCOUNTS ON THE SPRINT SIDE.
YOU WERE DEALING REALLY WITH RETAIL STORES, UH, VERSUS, UH, WITH THE CORPORATE SIDE.
UH, SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THIS CONSOLIDATE, CONSOLIDATE YOUR PLAN ONE CARRIER, POTENTIALLY AT T THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE IT ADVISORY TEAM WOULD BE, UH, KIND OF RANK THESE VENDORS BY PERFORMANCE, BY THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR PERFORMANCE WITH THE COUNTY, THE ABILITY TO BE RESPONSIVE.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MANAGING THE PHONES AND THEN HAVE THE BEST RATE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND BEST, UH, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE AROUND THE COUNTY AS FAR AS, UH, SERVICE, UH, STANDARDIZED PHONE TYPES.
YOU GOT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PHONES.
AND, UH, IF YOU CAN POTENTIALLY STANDARDIZE, AND WE, WE'VE SELECTED TWO.
ONE WAS THE BLACKBERRY, UH, ONE WAS THE, UH, RUGBY.
THE BLACKBERRY WOULD BE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT NEEDED, UH, EMAIL AND DATA TYPE USAGE.
AND THE RUGBY IS A HARDENED PHONE.
THAT'S A
AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL SERVE THE PURPOSE OF THE COUNTY, BUT THEY'LL ALSO ALLOW PURCHASING OR IT, WHEN A PERSON BREAKS A PHONE, THEY CAN BRING THE PHONE INTO THE COUNTY, UH, INTO THE IT OR PURCHASING AND THEY CAN SWAP THOSE PHONES OUT, GET THAT PERSON BACK IN SERVICE, KEEP AN INVENTORY OF THOSE TWO PHONES, AND THEN HAVE THAT PARTICULAR PROVIDER REPLACE THAT INVENTORY.
UH, CREATE A POLICY, ONE OF THE VOICEMAIL.
YOU CAN'T WAIT FOR A VOICEMAIL.
YOU NEED IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO THAT PERSON.
UH, WE, WE'VE COME TO A POINT WHERE IT'S REALLY IMMEDIATE COMMUNICATIONS.
IT'S GONNA BE A SOCIAL EVENT THAT'S GONNA, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, CELL PHONE TECHNOLOGY.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S REPLACE DESKTOP, DESKTOP TECHNOLOGY OR DESKTOP PHONE, UH, TECHNOLOGY.
BUT EVENTUALLY, I, I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL OVER, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, PEOPLE WANT TO BE INSTANT COMMUNICATIONS.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEBODY.
AND, UH, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST GONNA BE THERE.
SO, UM, CONSIDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN OPTION TO EVALUATE EVERY YEAR.
ONCE YOU'VE DONE THIS ONE TIME, YOU EVALUATE EVERY YEAR, UH, DIRECTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE.
AND THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE A CHANGE, PULLING YOUR MINUTES.
UH, WE TAKE ALL THE MINUTES, CONSOLIDATE IN ONE PULL, EVERYBODY SHARES THE SAME MINUTE PULL.
AND, UH, JUST BY, BY DOING THAT ALONE, WE'LL SAVE YOU BETWEEN 30 $804,000 A MONTH.
AND, UH, COMBINED WITH WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, UH, WITH THE SL TAKING THEIR PHONES OUT, AND YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT $87,000 ANNUALLY, UH, SAVING.
AND THAT NUMBER CAN CONTINUE TO SHRINK.
UH, AS YOU SHRINK THE POOL, YOU FIND OUT, UH, THAT YOU DON'T NEED AS MANY MINUTES IN THE POOL, AND YOU START LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PHONES THAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE TO SOME EXTENT.
AND YOU KNOW ABOUT HALF YOU REALLY GET CONTROL.
YOU REALLY START TO GETTING, UH, GETTING IN CONTROL OF THAT.
AND THIS IS IN LIE OF WHAT THE COUNTIES WILL DO.
THEY'LL EITHER DO THIS APPROACH OR THEY GO TO A STIPEND.
AND A STIPEND BASICALLY IS REIMBURSING, EVERYBODY GETS THEIR OWN CELL PHONES AND YOU REIMBURSE EVERYBODY FOR THEIR CELL PHONES.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS? YOU SAID THE SAVING, THE SAVING ON THIS, HOW MUCH YOU HEAR, UH, FROM THE PULLING PERSPECTIVE, JUST PULLING THE MINUTES, IT'S AROUND 4 30, 800, $4,000 A MONTH.
AND THEN YOU ADD THE SAVINGS FROM THE, SO BEING PULLED OUT OF THAT INITIAL AMOUNT, UH, WOULD BE AROUND $87,000 ANNUALLY, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF.
AND HOW LONG, I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE STILL GOT WORK TO DO BEFORE WE GET TO THIS POINT.
AND, UH, SOME OF THE EXISTING PHONES I, I ASSUME HAVE CONTRACTS.
YEAH, THE AT T PHONES, UH, WE CAN, WE WILL HAVE TO MOVE THEM TO THE DR CONTRACT AND THEN THE, UH, THE, UH, SPRINT
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PHONES, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE, UH, CONVERTED TO, TO AN AT T PHONE.SO WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME, UH, JUDGE WE MET WITH, UH, AT T YESTERDAY PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, AND, UH, THEY'RE READY.
UM, JACK, I THINK IS GONNA PRESENT SOMETHING HERE IN A MINUTE.
AND WE CAN IMMEDIATELY START MOVING THESE OTHER PLANS INTO THAT ONE PLAN.
WHAT ABOUT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CELL PHONE POLICY FOR THE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE AN INTERNET USE POLICY AND CELL PHONES ARE DISCUSSED OR PART OF IT, BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT THEY NEED TO BE.
SO WE'RE GONNA, A POLICY COMMITTEE WILL WORK ON THAT FOR US TO COME BACK AND FINALLY, UH, PROVE IT AS, AS COURT IS, THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS IN DON'S REPORT ABOUT WHAT COULD BE, BE PART OF THE POLICY THAT EVERYBODY'S BE LOOKING AT AND COME BACK AND VERY SHORTLY, WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT THAT POLICY, PUT IT, GET IT DOWN, SO KNOW WE'RE DONE.
AS PART OF THAT REPORT, I, I, I CHOSE NOT TO TAKE A COUNTY CELL PHONE FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT PRIMARILY BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT ANOTHER CELL PHONE TO CARRY AROUND.
SO, AS PART OF THAT, UH, THE OTHER REASON WAS I JUST DIDN'T WANNA SPEND THE MONEY AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, WHICH EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE A SMALL AMOUNT, I JUST CHOSE TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL, AS PART OF THAT POLICY, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN THERE, THAT IF, UNLESS THERE'S SOME REASON THAT WE PROHIBIT THAT, THAT A PERSON CAN PROVIDE THEIR OWN CELL PHONE IF THEY, WELL, THE, THE CAVEATS ARE THIS, UH, IF YOU'RE USING THAT CELL PHONE, I ADDRESS THIS KIND OF IN A REPORT.
BUT IF THAT CELL PHONE BECOMES A, A WELL KNOWN NUMBER FOR THE COUNTY, AND, AND THEN, UH, OVER TIME, THAT PERSON EVENTUALLY LEAVES.
AND, AND SO THE POLICY SHOULD BE THAT THE COUNTY PAYS FOR THE CELL PHONE.
THEY SHOULD OWN THE PHONE AND THE PHONE NUMBER.
AND THEN IF THAT PERSON NEEDS TO LEAVE THE COUNTY, THEY CAN GO TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND REQUEST THAT NUMBER TO BE TAKEN OUT.
BUT IF YOU USE THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES, IT BECOMES PUBLISHED ON A WEBSITE AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE USING YOUR OWN PHONE, BUT IT BECOMES A PUBLISHED NUMBER, UH, THEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT PERSON LEAVES THAT OFFICE? AND THAT NUMBER'S A KIND OF A WELL KNOWN COUNTY NUMBER.
THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS IN THE LAW.
AND I, I CAN SEE THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WORK THROUGH.
RIGHT? SEE, SO THE NUMBERS LIKE ROAD BRIDGE FEW ON THIS LIST, WE GOT A COPY WHAT YOU GIVE TO US AT THE MEETING.
THERE'S LITTLE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT.
LIKE SAID THIS, I WROTE ROAD AND BRIDGE.
I REPORT MY CELL PHONE ABOUT A THIRD IN THERE.
AND TWO, BASICALLY, UH, THE AT T PHONES THAT WE TRIED, THE RUGBY ARE GONNA BE CHEAPER THAN RADIO AND MAINTENANCE PARTS THAN ONE.
BUT THEY'LL ALSO BE, INSTEAD OF DOING PUSH TO TALK, YOU CAN PROGRAM JUST THE NUMBERS AND THERE YOU WANT THAT GUY TO TALK TO.
SO THE GUYS OUT THERE ON THE CREW WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO CONTACT, HIT THAT NUMBER FOR A TELEPHONE NUMBER FOR SOMEBODY ON THAT CREW, RIGHT? THE SUPERVISOR, THE MECHANIC, AND MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS IT CAN HAVE UNRESTRICTED NUMBERS TO CALL.
I MEAN, THEY CAN CALL WHOEVER THEY WANT TO, BUT, UH, YEAH, WHEN WE GOT LIKE 10, 10 THAT SAYS WE LET 10 CELL PHONES, UH, EIGHT OF THOSE WILL BE RESTRICTED JUST TO WHERE I CAN CALL YOU.
THEY SEE WHATEVER, JUST THOSE GUYS ON A CREW.
SO THEY CAN CONTACT TRUCK DRIVER AND GRA OPERATOR, THE LOADER GUY, WHATEVER, WHICH WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF MINUTES THAT YOU USE BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY USING IT FOR BUSINESS.
AND THEN ALSO REDUCE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT USING THAT FOR PERSONALLY USE.
AND THEN TIE, THERE'S ALSO, I DIDN'T MENTION THIS, BUT THERE'S, UH, UH, FOR PHONES THAT ARE CONVERTED FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE ISSUED DUE PHONES AT THE COST FOR THAT IF THEY ISSUED IT ROUGHLY.
UH, THE AT T IS GOING TO, UH, PRO PROVIDE A HUNDRED DOLLARS CREDIT, UH, FOR EVERY PHONE THAT'S CONVERTED TO AT T, UH, FOR ABOUT 60 PHONES OR $6,000.
AND, UH, THE COST OF THE PHONE WAS ONLY ABOUT 20 BUCKS A PHONE.
SO I THINK IT'LL HAVE A
IT WON'T BE IN CHARGE OF THE PHONE THING.
WE'LL HAVE AN INVENTORY OF PHONES SO THAT WHEN MINE BREAKS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE I'M, I'M LIKE THE JUDGE, I DON'T USE MY OWN, BUT IF, UH, MY ROAD SUPERVISOR PHONE BREAKS, HE CAN RUN DOWN TO, UH, THE SOUTH CAMPUS, THE KEEPER OF THE PHONE, GET ANOTHER PHONE, PUT THE SIM CARD IN THERE, AND HE IS BACK IN BUSINESS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL SOMEBODY TO BALANCE THE PHONE.
HAVE THAT DOWN TIME IN BETWEEN RIGHT BACK IN BUSINESS RIGHT AWAY.
SO PURCHASING AGENT'S GONNA BE THE KEEPER OF THE PHONE.
I THINK THE IT DIRECTOR IS SIR
WE'RE DEBATING THAT RIGHT NOW.
I GUESS SOME, SOMEBODY WILL, BUT WE'LL HAVE, WE WON'T
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HAVE ANY DOWNTIME WHEN SOMETHING BREAKS AND WE RUN OVER WATER.THE PROBLEM NOW IS YOU GOT SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PHONES, THERE'S NO INVENTORY THERE.
I CAN SEE KIND OF HOW THIS OCCURRED, BUT IT'S, WE CAN'T ALLOW IT TO CONTINUE ON DON THINGS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE COST FOR THE MAIN BREACH.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS.
IT'S JUST KIND OF CONVOLUTED, YOU KNOW, AND POLICY.
I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THAT REPORT, HOW THAT GET TOGETHER, DO IT THROUGH A WORKSHOP.
WE, WE PROBABLY HAVE A WORKSHOP GO THROUGH THIS AND OTHER, OTHER THINGS AS WELL DOWN THE WAY, SOON AS WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG.
WELL, I, WE NEED TO DO THIS PRETTY QUICK RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE WE WANT TO START TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SAVINGS.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED SOME OF THE SAVINGS IN THE BUDGET.
I THINK JACK'S FIXED IT OFF TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BARRIER, THAT THING, THE POLICY WE CAN DEVELOP AFTER WE DO THIS, BUT WE NEED NOT START SEEING THE SAVINGS PRETTY QUICK.
JUDGE, THAT WAS MY LAST ITEM, SO I WILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK GOING THIS THAT I SAID IN ALL THOSE MEETINGS AND, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US AS DOES HAVE TO GO LOOK FOR IT.
UH, NEXT OF COURSE, NEXT ITEM IS TO, UH, CONSIDER USING THE, UH, A AT T CONTRACT, UH, ADVANCE REQUEST WHILE GO, JUDGE, UH, AS FAR AS CONTRACT WITH THE PHONE, UH, WHETHER IT BE SPRINT, NEXTEL, UH, MAYBE A VERIZON PHONE OUT THERE, POSSIBLY.
ALL THOSE ARE ON STATE CONTRACTS, WHICH YOU CAN CANCEL ANYTIME.
SO WE DON'T HAVE AN EXTENDED CONTRACT.
I MEAN, YOU'RE, WE CAN, FOR EVERY PHONE WE HAVE, THEY'RE ALL THE SAME WAY, RIGHT? WE CAN COME UP ANY TIME.
UH, THAT'S WAY WE KIND OF WANNA MOVE FORWARD ON THE, UH, REQUEST TODAY AND MOVE TO AT&T IS, I THINK, WE'LL, WE'LL START SEEING THAT 4,000 A MONTH SAVINGS RIGHT AWAY.
UH, SOME THEY MENTIONED BEFORE WAS JUST, UH, THE, THE BILLING STATEMENT.
GONNA GET ONE BILL, UH, PER PIECE STUFF.
UH, THE MOBILE, MOBILE SAVINGS, EVERY, EVERYBODY BEING ON ONE CARRIER, YOU HAVE A SAVINGS THERE.
I THINK AT T THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY, THEY'VE GOT ONE OUT EVERY THREE OR ONE OUT EVERY TWO SOMETHING.
SO YOU'RE TALKING TO, THERE'S SOME SAVINGS THERE.
UM, OF COURSE THE ABILITY TO MANAGE YOUR ACCOUNT.
I CAN ADD PHONES, CUT, CUT OFF PHONES, YOU KNOW, THEIR SOFTWARE.
I CAN TELL WHAT PHONES ARE OUT THERE AND ADD, ADD TEXT, TAKE, TEXT OFF, DIFFERENT LIKE THAT.
YOU HAVE MORE CONTROL, OF COURSE, THE SUPPORT OF THE PHONE, LIKE THEY MAKE SURE WE HAVE TWO PHONES IN STOCK AND IN THE PAST, IF YOU BREAK A PHONE, WE GET ONE OVERNIGHT.
UH, AND MAYBE OVER A WEEKEND WE DON'T HAVE A PHONE POSSIBLY.
BUT NOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME SOUTH CAMPUS, WE'LL SWITCH OUT PHONES PLUS SIM CARD, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO, NO DOWNTIME.
AND, UM, JUST REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF DEVICES WHERE WE JUST GET DOWN TO TWO PHONES.
I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION WITH THE COMMITTEE IS GONNA BE THAT, UH, IF THE COUNTY IS GONNA FURNISH THE PHONE THAT WE GO WITH A PHONE THAT'S FREE OF CHARGE, UH, OPPOSED UP THAT WEEK.
THE PHONES, IF, IF IT'S IN THE BUDGET THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO MAKE IPHONE, UH, I THINK OUR GONNA BE TO JUST FURNISH PHONES THAT ARE AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY.
BUT I RECOMMEND WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD AND GET THESE TRANSFERRED.
WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO ENTER INTO THE STATE OF TEXAS DIR CONTRACT WITH AT T MOTION BY JURY AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A THANK YOU A LOT THAT A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT, YOU START SEEING SOME IMMEDIATE SAVINGS.
PLUS WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DIFFERENCE AS WELL, SO, ALRIGHTY.
THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AWARDING RFP NUMBER 10 0 8 0 1 INMATE HEALTHCARE SERVICES PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION.
I, WE'VE HAD A COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT WITH YOU, I THINK.
UH, AFTER IT WAS, UH, CHIEF BEAVERS CHIEF STONE, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, KATHY MORRIS, GERNER, AND MYSELF WERE ON THIS COMMITTEE, WAS I NOTICED MAYOR PORTNER HAS JOINED US TODAY.
WAS HE PART OF THAT? HE WAS NOT PART, HE WAS PART OF THE, THE INITIAL MEETING, BUT SINCE HE WAS PART OF THIS RFP, UH, BEING OUR DOCTOR, HE WAS NOT ACTUALLY ON THE COMMITTEE, SO.
BUT HE DID OFFER A LOT OF INPUT.
AND I KNOW Y'ALL SPENT A LOT OF TIME YES.
SO I'M INTERESTED AND EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT THE REPORT IS.
AND I THINK WE GOT A, A COPY OF THE, UH, UH,
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THE LAST INVESTMENT FILE OFFER FROM CHM, UH, COMES WITH A TOTAL 649984.20 FOR A YEAR.THAT FIGURE INCLUDES, UH, THERE INCLUDES A, UH, $50,000 WORTH OF PRESCRIPTION.
SO THE FIRST 50,000 PRESCRIPTION COST WOULD BE PICKED UP ON THIS CONTRACT.
UH, I THINK YOU ALSO HAVE A, UH, KIND OF AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR ON A COST.
EVERYTHING LISTED HERE IS KIND OF OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE STUFF.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF, UH, HOSPITAL VISITS OR, UH, SURGERY.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD HAD A, UH, GUIDE GO TO ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON WHO'S
THESE ARE JUST THE COSTS WE WILL INCUR EVERY YEAR.
CURRENTLY, UH, 2010, WE SPENT, UH, 909,000 5 48 ON THOSE ITEMS LISTED.
AND OBVIOUSLY IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT CHM IS GOING DO AT 6 49, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS.
SO THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER OR THROUGH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, WE SPENT LAST YEAR $909,548.
RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I MEAN FOR, FOR HEARING APPLE STAFF.
AND SO THIS YEAR, UNDER THIS PROPOSAL THAT Y'ALL HAVE WORKED ON, NOW, EVERYBODY THAT YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 649,984.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO, WITH THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER ALL THESE VENDORS LISTED LIKE METRO STAFF, DEBT, TRUST, DENTAL, AND SO ON.
THEY'RE GONNA TAKE ON THOSE, UH, THE FIRST YEAR.
OF COURSE, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A BETTER PRICE NEXT YEAR.
IT'LL STILL BE PART OF THIS, RIGHT.
I MEAN THAT CELL, WE'RE GONNA START MAKING MONEY HERE.
THAT, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY GREAT.
NOW, I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION, I KNOW I WASN'T INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE THIS STARTED BEFORE I GOT HERE.
WHAT ABOUT SERVICE? HAVE, HAVE WE, I'M SURE WE'VE CHECKED REFERENCES WITH OTHER COUNTIES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE CURRENTLY AT ELLIS COUNTY AND I BELIEVE IT IS COL COUNTY AND MAYBE SMITH COUNTY, I'M SURE.
I THINK THEIR REPS OUT HERE TODAY TO, THERE WERE SEVERAL AREAS AND UH, OF COURSE THE COMMITTEE GRADE THOSE FOLKS OUT AT THE BEST, UH, UH, GRADE ON ALL THE PROPOSAL.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS, UH, JUST THE, JUST THE PHARMACY STUFF ALONE.
IT APPEARS THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA SAY I'M, I'M GOING, I I'M GONNA GIVE ESTIMATE WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA SAY 50 TO 60% PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION BECAUSE THEY'RE BUYING POWER.
AND I'LL SAY THE BEEN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
IT'S JUST, I THINK THAT, UH, BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE, THEY HAVE A, HAVE A DIFFERENT BUYING POWER PRESCRIPTION.
SO THEY'RE IN SEVERAL OTHER TEXAS COUNTY.
RECOMMENDED FROM ELVIS COUNTY, EL COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE 400, FOUR $50,000 IN SAVINGS IF WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN INMATE WITH, UH, BRAIN SURGERY OR DIALYSIS OR THINGS SUCH AS THAT.
YEAH, WE, WE DO HAVE A LOT, LOT OF ROOM, BUT LOT OF BUFFER THERE FOR, FOR THE CASE THAT DO COME UP, YOU KNOW, THE UNKNOWN.
AND, UH, I DIDN'T BRING MY CROW TODAY.
I'VE BEEN KIND OF CHEWING ON THE LAST FEW DAYS, ANYTHING TO SAY, BUT THIS MAY, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE COMING OUT A LOT BETTER THAN YEAH.
WHAT I, ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMITTEE LIKE TO SAY? ANYTHING? THE ONLY THING I'D SAY JUDGE IS ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.
UH, THE OPTION THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE IS WITH THE PERSONNEL THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OVER IS WHEN WE HAD SOMEBODY GO ON VACATION, THEY LEFT AND THEN WE HAD TO FILL THAT IN WITH THE, THE STAFF THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE WITH THEM TAKING THIS OVER.
THEY'LL HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND FILL IN ALL THE TIME.
SO THAT'S GONNA HELP US AND QUITE A, QUITE A BIT OF BETTER SERVICE FOR RIGHT.
I THINK THE LIABILITY ISSUE THERE IS GONNA HELP US A LOT ALSO.
YEAH, JUDGE, I LIKE TO ADD THAT FIGURE INCLUDED, UH, MORE SPENT, LAST YEAR THERE WAS FOUR DETENTION OFFICERS THAT WERE PART OF THAT MEDICAL STAFF AND THAT, THAT WILL FREE THEM UP TO GO GO INTO THE JAIL.
AND, UH, WE'LL GET A CONTRACT HERE SHORTLY TO JOHN TO LOOK AT.
I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, AWARD THAT, UH, PENDING APPROVAL FROM HAMILTON.
KATHY, I THINK YOU HAD SOMETHING JACK JUST MENTIONED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT WASN'T OVER SAY IT WOULD HELP JAIL OUT.
THEY COULD FOR DETENTION OFFICERS, PUT HIM BACK ON THE FLOOR INSTEAD OF HANGING.
FORGER, YOU HAVE ANY, YOU AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? UH, I'VE BEEN
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WORK WHEN I CLOSED MY OFFICE HERE AS A FULLTIME FAMILY POSITION HERE FOR 34 YEARS, WHEN I, I WAS GONNA KEEP DOING, UH, TAKING CARE OF THE JAIL INMATES AT COLTON COUNTY AND I FOUND OUT THEY NEEDED A POSITION AT ELLIS COUNTY.SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CHM, IT'S ALMOST FOUR YEARS AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE COMPANY.
THEY'VE TREATED THE NURSES RIGHT.
THE, THE, I KNOW THE, THE SHERIFFS AND UH, ELLIAS COUNTY ARE VERY SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE THEY GET FROM THEM.
ALRIGHT, WELL IT'S A GREAT WAY THAT EVERYBODY WORKED TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH THIS.
SOUNDS LIKE WE HAD ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN IT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THAT POINT.
SO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMITTEE AND FROM OUR PURCHASING AGENT THAT WE, UH, I'LL MOVE, WE AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR INMATE HEALTHCARE SERVICES PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION TO GET THE NAME RIGHT ON HERE.
CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE MANAGEMENT.
WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OR MOTION CLARK SECOND.
AND YOU PICK WHOEVER YOU WANT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM BEFORE WE, UH, VOTE ON IT? OKAY.
THAT IS WHILE WE'RE ON AUSTERITY.
THIS IS, THIS IS A HUGE PART OF THAT.
HOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS, I THINK, I THINK THEY NEED ABOUT A MONTH TO GET UP AND RUNNING.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME, SOME, UH, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY ISSUES.
WE HAVE PERSONNEL THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY CURRENTLY.
I TO CONTRACT THOSE FOLKS AND TAKE THEM ON, TAKE A BRIEF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT A MONTH THAT'S KIND, COLLECTING THOSE THINGS, THE SOONER WE GET THAT DONE.
THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER, UH, I HAVE IT ON 15 ON MINE, IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SELLING COUNTY SURPLUS PROPERTY THROUGH RENEE'S BATES ONLINE AUCTIONEER SERVICES JUDGE.
I HAVE REQUEST A COUPLE AREAS OF, AND, UH, I RECOMMEND THAT WE USE RENEE BATES SERVICE IN THE PAST AND THEY, THEY DID A GREAT JOB AND, UH,
HOW, HOW DO THE COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO THEY DO, DO WE CONTACT THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THIS SERVICE? HOW DO WE DO THAT? WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL PUT OUT A, A PERMISSION, I'LL PUT OUT A MEMO TO ALL DEPARTMENTS.
ALERT, ALERT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY THAT WE WOULD'VE AN OPTION.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT A DESK, A CHAIR, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BE DELIVERED TO SOUTH CAMPUS AND WE CAN, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE NOTE OF THAT.
THAT'LL BE INCLUDE THE OPTION.
UH, I'LL GET A LIST FROM EACH COMMISSIONER.
WE'LL GO OUT AND EACH LOCATION TAKE PICTURES ONCE I GET A KIND OF RUNNING LIST ON SALE, UH, THEN THAT'LL BE ALL FOR ALL AREAS FOR ONE PRECINCT TO GRAB FROM ANOTHER, TAKE THAT EQUIPMENT, WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MOVE EQUIPMENT AROUND BEFORE WE SELL IT.
AND WE'LL GET A LIST OF EQUIPMENT.
AND I DUNNO WHETHER YOU'RE FAMILIAR, FAMILIAR WITH RENEE? I'VE HEARD THEIR NAME, BUT I, UH, BUT I'VE NEVER DEALT WITH, SO I ENCOURAGED TO GO TO RENEE BASS COM AND UH, THEY, THEY DO TALKING ABOUT THAT, I, I'VE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS ON 'EM AND APPARENTLY THEY ARE, THEY ARE THE COMPANY TO DEAL TO GO WITH BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY, VERY LARGE AND LOOKS LIKE JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THE STATE USING IT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.
I I THINK THEY'RE GETTING A MILLION SOMETHING HITS PER, PER WEEK.
SO ARE YOU, UH, READY TO PUT THAT IN FORM, SIR? MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND, MR. CLARK? SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A FALTON COUNTY SURPLUS AUCTION POLICY.
JUDGE, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE BROUGHT THIS UP AND THE QUESTION I HAD WAS WHETHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES CAN BE ON COUNTY SURPLUS.
AND AT THAT TIME, UH, WE ELECTED TO NOT LET EMPLOYEES BE.
I KIND OF LIKE TO BRING THAT, BRING THAT BACK UP, BACK UP AGAIN.
UH, THERE'S NOT A REAL WAY TO POLICE THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
UH, THE PAST BOX WE HAD, UH, WHEN FOLKS SHOW UP TO PICK UP MATERIAL, SOME FACES LOOK REAL FAMILIAR AND UH, UH, AT THAT POINT IT'S ALREADY BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.
UH, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET INTO THAT.
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RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, SINCE THIS IS A ONLINE OPTION, DIFFERENT FROM A A, A LIVE OPTION, YOU REALLY CAN'T, YOU REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING SHADY.YOU KNOW, IT IS A, UH, I RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, THE MORE BID YOU GET, THE BETTER FOR THE COUNTY.
NOT THAT WE WOULD HAVE ANYBODY DOING IT.
IF YOU'VE BEEN TO
SO HERE YOU SEE DON ONE WITH THEIR HAND UP, THERE'S THINGS GOING ON.
THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT ONLINE AUCTION AS EVERYBODY HAS OPPORTUNITY ONLINE, IT'S, UH, THERE'S NO MANIPULATING THE SERVICE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.
AND, UH, PERSONALLY I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO, TO BID ON THIS.
UH, MY RECOMMENDATION IS POSSIBLY THAT, THAT, UH, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT YOU CANNOT BID ON THAT, LET'S SAY YOU WORK AT PRECINCT FOUR AND YOU'RE SELLING A TRUCK, MAYBE YOUR FOLKS YOU NOT BID ON, THEY, THEY COME BACK TO THE POLICE AND HOW YOU GONNA POLICE IT CHECKS AND YOU SAY, WELL, YOU WORK FOR ME, YOU CAN'T BUY THAT.
THEN WHAT? I THINK IT'D BE UP TO THE SUPERVISOR.
UH, AND, AND I'M GOING BY EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, 33 YEARS OF
I KNOW WHERE THERE'S BEEN A CASE WHERE A APARTMENT HAS SOLD A VEHICLE.
NOT SAYING ANYBODY WOULD DO THAT, BUT I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN WHERE THEY CROSS THE WIRE RIGHT THROUGH THE DAY, TRUCK RUN, TERRIBLE OFFICERS OVER WIRES GET PUT BACK NEXT DAY, NEXT DAY SOMEBODY DRIVING A VEHICLE.
I I WORRY ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE BID ON STUFF THAT THEY HAVE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A TRUCK, EVERYBODY, YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS FULL KNOWLEDGE WHAT THE, WHAT THE TRUCK'S LIKE, WOULD IT NOT BE SOME TYPE OF A CRIMINAL OFFENSE, JOHN, IF AN EMPLOYEE WAS TO SABOTAGE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THE SALE, WOULD IT BE LIABLE OR SUBJECT TO BEING PROSECUTED FOR FRAUD OR SOMETHING SUCH AS THAT? RIGHT.
SO, AND, AND OF COURSE GETTING AWAY FROM THE QUESTION OF, IT'S VERY TO PROVE THAT IT, IT DOES REMIND ME THAT, UH, THE, THE STATUTE DOESN'T HAVE A, A RESTRICTION ON WHO CAN BUY A SALVAGE OR A SURPLUS.
AND, AND I GUESS ANY, ANY POLICY WOULD BE SOMETHING I GUESS YOU ANNOUNCED IN ADVANCE AND KIND OF WANNA BE ABLE TO ENFORCE AFTER THE FACT.
IF YOU SAW SOMEONE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A POSS MAYBE JUST ADDED TO THE, UH, PERSONNEL POLICY ALONG WITH THE IT STUFF.
HOW, HOW DO YOU POLICE THAT ANYWAY, WHEN SOMEBODY IN MY PRECINCT WANTS TO BUY A PICKUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE'VE GOT OUT THERE.
YEAH, IT'S, AND HE GETS HIS BROTHER-IN-LAW TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A POSS BUT IF THE GUY WAS TO SABOTAGE THAT VEHICLE WHERE IT DIDN'T RUN AND HE PUT IT ON THERE THAT, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT RUNNING AND THEN HE GOES HOME, PUTS THE PLUG WIRE BACK ON THE RIGHT WAY, IT THAT NOT BE, EVEN NOT DEFRAUDING THE COUNTY.
I WOULD THINK THAT THE CRIMINAL THING MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THING TO HANG OVER THEIR HEAD THAN POLICY.
WELL, I'M JUST, I'M PULLING OUT BEST.
I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN JOBS A LOT OF TIMES THAN, AND WE, WE, WE HAD CALL SINCE AT THE C ARY, YOU CAN EITHER BUY IT DIRECTLY NOR INDIRECTLY TO SEE PROPERTY AND UH, LATER AN EMPLOYEE WAS SEEN DRIVING A PICKUP AND UH, ONE POLICE OFFICER NOTED IT, HE WAS UPSET BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BID ON IT AND THEN DETERMINED THAT HIS FATHER BOUGHT THE TRUCK, GAVE IT TO HIS SON, TYPE THING.
I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
BUT I, BUT I THINK YOU'RE BETTER OFF LET EMPLOYEE BID AS A WHOLE AND MAYBE LET HIM BID ON ANYTHING.
WE YOU DON'T HAVE A FORMAL WRITTEN POLICY HERE.
I, I WOULD RE MAYBE HAVE JOHN INVOLVED IN DRAFTING OF THAT.
BUT YOU AND JOHN WORKED THAT OUT.
BRIAN, YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT? YES, SIR.
THE ONLY, I KNOW WE'RE ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE, ARE WE GONNA USE THIS FOR SEIZES PROPERTY AS WELL? THE ONLINE OPTION? YES, SIR.
THE ONLY PART THAT, THAT MAY BE, UH, AN ISSUE ON THAT IS YOU'VE GOT, IF WE'RE SEIZING SOMEBODY'S VEHICLE BECAUSE IT IS USED WITH A FELONY OFFENSE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO SEIZE THIS VEHICLE ONLINE BIDDING ON IT, THAT MIGHT BECOME A QUESTION.
I DON'T, JOHN PROBABLY ANSWERED THAT, BUT I MEAN, IF HE'S REPRESENTING SOMEBODY AND HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL TOOK MY CLIENT'S VEHICLE AND THE SAME MAN THAT TOOK IT FROM HIM IS OVER HERE BIDING ON IT ON LINE.
I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CIVIL, BUT CERTAINLY THAT WOULD AFFECT THE PROSECUTION, YOU KNOW, THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROSECUTION.
HAVE WE TRIED TO CONTACT ANY OF THE COUNTIES AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE, I I HAVE SPOKE WITH OTHER COUNTIES AND IN MOST COUNTIES HAVE GONE TO LEGENDARY EMPLOYEE BID.
JUST FOR THE FACT THAT THEY'VE HAD NOT HAD THE ABILITY TO POLICE IT.
UH, WHEN YOU SEE THEM OUT THERE THAT DAY, YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON
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LIVE ROCK SEE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OR WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO PAY OR PICK IT UP.AND IN THIS CASE WE, YOU KNOW, THE PAIN DONE, THE AUCTION'S THE ONLY TIME I SEE WHEN THEY PICK UP AUCTION.
AND A LOT, MOST PLACES HAVE GONE TO THAT EMPLOYEE BID JUST BEFORE THAT REASON BECAUSE YOU JUST CANNOT POLICE IT.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THE CONFERENCE SAYING.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE THERE.
COULD WE, COULD WE NOT SET THAT SEIZE VEHICLES FROM THEY HAVE A POLICY FOR THAT? BECAUSE I CAN SAY EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT THAT COME UP PRETTY QUICK, I IMAGINE.
YOU GOT MY CORVETTE DAY, YOU CAN BUY IT FOR HALF THE CRASH OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S WHY YOU PUT ME IN JAIL.
UH, I'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE COURT.
I HAD A PROBLEM IN THE PAST OF GETTING A PASSED.
YEAH, I'M GONNA BRING THAT UP IF THAT WILL BE PART OF THE POLICY AS WELL.
DO WE NEED TO DO THIS NOW OR CAN WE, I I DON'T KNOW THAT WE, BECAUSE OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE READY.
I MEAN I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UH, CAN WE DO IT RIGHT NOW? I BELIEVE WE CAN TABLE THIS, UH, UNTIL HE, YOU KNOW, PENDING A POLICY.
I HAVE TO KIND OF ASK THE, BRING THIS BACK UP.
BUT WE JUST TABLE THIS UNTIL WE GET A POLICY.
AND DID WORK WITH JOHN AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FOLKS ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL.
SEE AND UH, THE STUFF THAT'S GOING, YOU, YOU GOING GO AHEAD AND PUT THE YES SIR.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE ON THE WE AND THEN WE'LL STUDY THIS, RIGHT? THAT SOUND OKAY TO EVERYBODY? THEN WE GOTTA GET THIS AND, AND AS A PART OF THE PURCHASING MANUAL THAT YOU WANT TO DO, JUST INCORPORATED INTO THAT AND, AND I'M READY TO TALK WITH YOU ANYTIME YOU GET READY ABOUT THAT.
JUST FIND THE TIME BECAUSE WE GET THE REST OF THE COURT INVOLVED IN IT TOO.
I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
WE OPERATE AS A COUNTY, SO, SO EMPLOYEES CAN BID ON IT IF THEY WANT TO.
WELL I THINK TODAY WE STILL HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ON THE BOOKS THAT SAYS WHAT CANNOT BID CURRENTLY.
WE ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO UH, TABLE THIS UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG? WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MAN.
AND DID WE MAKE A MOTION ON WE DID THE ONLINE, DIDN'T WE? YES SIR.
IT'S THE, THE OTHER ONE, THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND UH, OUR TAX ASSESSOR, I MEAN YOU TALK ABOUT JOHNNY ON THE SPOT, HE'S ALREADY GONE NEXT DOOR AND I'M SURE DIRECTING THAT THIS BE, UH, DONE.
I DICK, YOU WANT TO TALK TO US? WE'LL JUST LET YOU COME BACK AND, UH, THIS IS EXACTLY, I THINK WHAT, UH, KIND OF GIVES US A, A GOOD COMPARISON.
WELL IT REALLY LOOKS GOOD AGAIN.
MAY LOOK BETTER THAN IT REALLY IS, BUT, UH, THAT CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE, YOU KNOW, THOUGH, LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME WE COLLECT 8.9 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WAS 31%.
THIS YEAR WE'VE COLLECTED 14.1 MILLION BUT THEY HAD THREE, FOUR EXTRA DAYS.
DIDN'T THEY? THEY HAD SOME EXTRA DAYS.
YEAH, BUT THE EXTRA DAYS ARE NOT IN THERE.
BECAUSE THE COMPUTER ONLY POSTED IF WE POSTED ON DECEMBER 31ST.
WE POSTED ON JANUARY 1ST AS OF DECEMBER 31ST.
IT COUNTS IN JANUARY, SO, OKAY.
THAT'S, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY? IT'S GOT A LOT OF NUMBERS ON HERE.
YOU MAY WANT YOU HAVE A TROUBLE SLEEPING THAT YOU WELL, WE'LL IF UH, Y'ALL AGREE WE'LL DO IT THIS WAY EVERY MONTH, IS THAT OKAY? YEAH.
WHENEVER WE GET INTO FEBRUARY AND MARCH IS REALLY WHEN IT'LL START SHOWING A LITTLE MORE ACCURACY.
AFTER, WELL AFTER JANUARY, BY THE END OF JANUARY WE'LL BE AT LIKE 80%.
RIGHT? SO AFTER THAT IT WON'T BE MUCH DIFFERENT AT ALL.
I DID FIND A GOOD ACCOUNTABLE.
ABSOLUTELY ALL NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND WE'RE HAVING A LONG MEETING BUT WE JUST, WE'RE COVERING LOTS OF GOOD TERRITORY TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE DISTRICTS CLERK'S OFFICE REPUTATION FOR SUSAN COOK, NANCY DICKERSON, LOUISE HARRIS,
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DENISE LOPEZ.AND I DON'T THINK OUR CLERKS HERE THIS QUESTIONS ARE WE APPROVING OR ACCEPTING? WE APPROVED.
MR. CLARK MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. MANNING MOTION FOR SECOND MOTION.
AND ARE YOU GETTING THAT DOWN? YES SIR.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHO MADE THE MOTION? MR. CLARK.
AND THEN AYE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAL POINT HARRY RO AND CHUCK CA.
TODD RE AND JOHN DABBS AND APPOINTING ONE NEW MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF THE KALIN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN.
AND I THINK THAT IS MR. CLARK HAS ANYWAY, WELL IT'S ACTUALLY MYSELF AND MR. MAD BOTH KIND, SHERIFF.
BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH HARRY ARD, CHUCK JOHN BBS AND JIM DAVID KIRK.
DAVID, DAVID KIRK TO UH, CALL SD NUMBER SEVEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION OF A SECOND, UH, END OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
NEXT ONE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE REPLACEMENT OF AN OFF SYSTEM BRIDGE IN GREEN TO PROVIDE THE LOCAL FUNDING MATCH FOR BRIDGES LOW LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 40 68 COUNTY ROAD 2 83 COUNTY ROAD 40 17 COUNTY ROAD THREE 10 COUNTY ROAD 1 0 9.
YEAH, THIS IS THE THING WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
THIS, YEAH, THIS IS WHAT WE DID AND UH, TEX HAS TO HAVE THIS, UH, RESOLUTION.
THEY WON'T JUST ACCEPT THE MINUTES.
THEY NEED THE RESOLUTION OF THE COURT TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING TO FIX THAT.
UH, THOSE TWO BRIDGES THAT GONNA FIX ANYWAY.
AND WE'RE GONNA DO THE IN KIND MATCH WITH THE BRIDGE IN YOUR DISTRICT TO START OFF, I GOT TWO OF THEM ON THERE, SO I'D LIKE TO GET THAT MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER, ANYBODY ELSE ON BID? MR. JACKSON? SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED ALL TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN CAMAN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF FORNEY CVILLE TOWN.
I TRY TO DO THIS, THIS EVERY JANUARY, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO DO IT DURING THE, WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GOING THROUGH THE YEAR.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROJECTS WITH ANY OF THESE CITIES AS OF RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M SURE WELL BEFORE THE YEAR IS OVER.
AND IF I GET THEIR LITTLE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE PRIOR TO, THAT'S JUST ONE MORE STEP WE HAVE TO DO BEFORE WE DO THE PROJECT.
AND THESE ARE JUST CARBON COPIES OF ILA THAT WE'VE HAD ATTACHED.
AND AGAIN, I CAN SIGN ALL THESE COMMISSIONER.
YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE TO SIGN THESE.
WELL WE HAVE SIGNED WHEN WE BRING THEM IN.
OKAY, SO YOU PUT THAT YES SIR.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND, COMMISSIONER SECOND.
I JUST ASK THE QUESTION BASICALLY ANY KIND OF THAT YOU HAVE, I THINK IT CAME UP COMMISSION
THEY ASKED TO DO HE DO IT ONE YEAR AT A TIME.
I GOT SOME ANALYTICAL AGREEMENTS THAT'S END DOESN'T HAVE A DATE, EXPRESSION DATE WITH THE CITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO HOW LONG DOES IT MATTER THINGS JUDGE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, COST OF OUR TERMS, UH, TWO YEARS AT THE MAX.
JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY? WELL, THE, UM, GOOD QUESTION THAT YOU, YOU REALLY CAN'T OBLIGATE THE, THE COUNTY BILL A A YEAR AT A TIME.
SO I MEAN, IN A SENSE IT MAKES SENSE TO REFRESH THEM EVERY YEAR, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, I'VE SEEN A BUNCH OF CONTRACTS AND SOME GO BACK 20 YEARS OR SO THAT, THAT NO ONE IS, IS UPDATED.
UM, BUT IF, IF WE GOT INTO A SITUATION WHERE ONE PARTY WAS BREACHING IT, THAT COULD CREATE SOME ISSUES OR IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT CREATE AN ISSUE.
BUT IF THEY'RE REFRESHED LIKE THIS, THEN YOU SHOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE.
SHOULD THE COURT SET UP STANDARDS, WE CAN ONLY GO INTO AGREEMENTS FOR ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
I THINK THEY WERE SAYING TWO YEARS
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MAX MOST, I'D ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WE HAD TO DO THEM EVERY YEAR.I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR NO OTHER REASON.
IT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
AND, AND PROBABLY MANY TIMES IT'LL BE LIKE THESE THREE YOU SAY, LET'S JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
BUT OTHER TIMES YOU MIGHT THINK WE DON'T WANT DO THAT.
IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BRING TO COMMISSION COURT? WELL, I'M WONDERING RIGHT NOW RAISE, BUT EVERYBODY HAS COMMUNITIES THAT THEY MAY WANT DO.
MAYBE WE NEED TO GET WITH JOHN AND WORK UP A STANDARD THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE THE SAME GRIEVANCE AND THEN HAVE THEM ADOPTED JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? I I I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
YOU'VE LOOKED AT WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE TODAY OR IN THE PAST, AND MAYBE WE CAN WORK THAT UP AND JUST DO IT FOR THOSE, AND YOU MAY ALWAYS HAVE A SCHOOL THAT COMES ALONG THAT MAYBE IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS AGREEMENT OR ANOTHER ENTITY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN AN EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT OR SOMETHING, WHICH I GUESS WE COULD DO THE SAME THING, BUT IT WOULD COVER AT LEAST THE MAJOR COMMUNITY.
BUT I THINK WE'D JUST LEAVE THAT UP TO EACH COMMISSIONER.
WELL, SINCE I WAS COMING IN NEW, I JUST FIGURED I'D GO THROUGH AND RENEW ALL MINE AND START 'EM IN JANUARY.
SO I I'M KIND OF LIKE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH COMMISSIONER CLARK AND JUST THAT WAY EVERY YEAR IT COMES AROUND JANUARY.
I KNOW THAT I, I NEED TO RENEW THOSE INTER LOCAL RECORDS.
I'M STILL, I'M STILL GETTING TOGETHER AND FIGURING OUT WHICH ONE PROCESS OF GETTING THEM IN HERE, JERRY.
WHAT I MEAN, I'M FINE WITH, UH, I JUST THOUGHT WE HAD TO DO IT EVERY YEAR.
SO WE HAD DONE OURS EVERY YEAR.
THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS SOME KIND OF A, A STANDARD INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THERE.
THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR KIND OF FLOATING RIGHT OUT THERE.
OH, ARE THERE? WHATEVER'S IN OUR FILE, WE'D PULL THAT ONE OUT AND SOMETIMES IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.
SO JOHN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN HELP US ON THEN? YEAH, AND I, I, THAT RAISES A GOOD POINT TOO IS, IS THAT, UM, AND, AND THE, THE FORM THAT, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS USED IN, IN THESE THREE IS, IS A PRETTY GOOD BASIC FORM.
AND, UH, AND I I'VE SEEN, UH, UH, THINK, UH, KATHY MORRIS HAD ONE A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO THAT WAS 20 SOME ODD YEARS OLD.
I FORGET WHAT IT WAS FOR AND IT WAS TERRIBLE.
AND SO IT IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO TO REFRESH THEM TO, TO REFRESH THEM BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN ONES THAT PRETTY MUCH ARE NOT MUCH BETTER THAN HANDSHAKE.
YOU KNOW, SO WELL IN, IN A, IN A, IN AN EFFORT TO FORMALIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS.
KATHY, YOU MAY HAVE, YOU MAY HAVE SEVERAL.
THE 31ST OF JANUARY WHAT DEPARTMENT DOES, AND THAT'S THE DEPARTMENT.
WELL, I I THINK THAT'S, UH, A GOOD IDEA.
DO YOU NEED TO, WILL YOU CONTACT EACH COMMISSIONER THEN AND YEAH, I CAN DO THAT.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY? YES.
IF WE HAVE ONE TO CHANGE THE NAME TO PROTECT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
ALRIGHTYY NUMBER 21 ON MY AGENDA, I DON'T THINK Y'ALL ARE NUMBERED, BUT CARD OF MIND IS 21 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING RESALE OF PROPERTY.
AND I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL THE COSTS.
AND YOU, UH, HAVE THE, UH, AGENDA ITEM ON THAT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK.
AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN HERE, BUT THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, NEED TO BE, I SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR OF CITY MAD, MY, MY HOMETOWN THERE.
I WENT THROUGH AND I LOOKED THEM ALL OVER THE FIRST, UH, BEFORE I SPOKE TO THE MAYOR, HE SAID THESE PROPERTIES ARE INVOLVED AND HAVE A LOT OF CODE VIOLATIONS.
I BET IT WOULD TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO BOUGHT 'EM, UH, SEPARATELY A LOT OF TIME AND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY TO EVEN GET CLEAR TITLES IN THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE CODE VIOLATIONS.
A LOT OF 'EM HAVE JUNK HOUSES ON BURN HOUSES OR SEVERAL OF 'EM THAT ARE LANDLOCK HAVE NO ACCESS TO ANY ROAD WHATSOEVER.
SO, UH, IT'S THE CITY OF MAD AND THAT THEY BUY THESE PROPERTIES AND EITHER, DEPENDING ON THE REAL ESTATE MARKET, SOME OF 'EM THEY'RE GOING TO USE TO TURN BACK INTO, UH, UTILITY EASEMENT AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
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UH, THEY'RE, THAT'S THE MAIN REASON THEY'RE DOING IT.AND TO GET 'EM BACK ON THE TAX ROW.
WHICH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION.
ARE Y'ALL GONNA PUT THESE RIGHT BACK ON THE TAX ROW? YES SIR.
SO THE CITY PAY TAXES, WELL ONCE THEY GET, ONCE THEY GET THE DISPOSITION OF GET 'EM CLEANED UP TO GET THE CODE BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU WILLING TO PUT THAT IN FORM MOTION? YES SIR.
I DID Y'ALL READ THAT WE GOT A MOTION.
TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER TERM LIMITS FOR THE COST COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE.
I MET, UH, OR I SPOKE TO THESE FOLKS UH, ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO AND UH, THEY PRESENTED ME WITH THESE COMMISSIONERS.
I KNOW SOME OF 'EM, BUT, UH, I'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT THEY'RE ALL DEDICATED PEOPLE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO I KNOW THAT WE ACCEPT THESE, UH, PEOPLE.
MIKE SHARP, DON FLOYD, BILL PINNER, DR. LISA JONES AND TIM MOORE.
AND DO YOU HAVE THE, THEIR TIME OF SERVICE THERE? YES.
ONE YEAR ON DR. LISA JONES AND TWO YEARS ON TAMMY MOORE.
AND YOU MADE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SOM.
MAY DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. ROW SECOND.
TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEW MEMBERSHIP WITH TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND PAYING ANNUAL VIEWS.
COMMISSIONER, UH, MANNING AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A GREAT THREE AND A HALF DAYS OF, UH, TRAINING LAST WEEK, PUT ON BY THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COMMISSIONERS OR COUNTIES.
AND, UH, THE TRAINING, IT WAS, UH, VERY, VERY GOOD.
AND WE, UH, NOT ONLY GOT SOME GET TRAINED, BUT WE GOTTA TALK A LOT OF OTHER COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE BRAND NEW AND PICKED UP SOME GOOD INFORMATION.
YOU ALWAYS LEARN THINGS ABOUT, I THINK THE CAMPAIGN A LITTLE HARDER YOU TO WON THAT ELECTION.
YEAH, WE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS ARE A BLESSING THOUGH.
YOU'RE NOT TOO SURE YOU WANT YEAH.
AFTER THE TIME COMMITMENT THAT IT WAS GONNA MAKE, BUT IT, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD.
ANYWAY, OUR VIEWS ARE $1,560 AND THEY, THEY DO PROVIDE EXCELLENT SERVICE, UH, FOR US.
SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES A MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? UH, WE HAVE A ITEM TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING.
THIS INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT IS, IS UH, KIND OF ONE I TOOK OUT OF JIM'S GOT ABOUT FOUR, FIVE IN HIS DESK AND I TOOK THIS ONE OUT THERE.
AND THIS IS THE ONE I LIKE BEST.
I HOPE IT'S PASSES THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S MUST, BUT IF IT DOESN'T, I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING BACK RE-LOOKING IT.
BUT UH, I KNOW THAT WE ACCEPT THIS
UH, CLARK, WHAT WE CAN DO AFTER JOHN HAS A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THESE, IF WE NEED TO COME BACK AND READ UP THEM, WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT, CAN'T WE, JOHN? OH YEAH, YEAH.
THIS IS THIS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO? YOU LIKE THIS ONE AND JACK'S NOT THERE, BUT HE LIKES THIS TOO.
ALRIGHTY TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROCLAIMING THE DAY OF FEBRUARY THE FOURTH AS NATIONAL RARE RED DAY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
THIS IS THE RED RIBBON EVENT, I GUESS.
ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK? IT'S WOMEN'S HEART HEALTH.
DID WE WEAR A RED? IF WE WANT TO, WE CAN WEAR YOUR RED REGISTER.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO DO HAVE A MOTION?
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SECOND.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A ALREADY TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROOF OF TAX, RESALE OF UH, BLOCK LOT 16 BLOCK 10 LL ORIGINAL COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
JC OR I HAVE ABOUT EVERY OTHER WEEK.
YEAH, BUT THIS ONE IS, IT'S OKAY.
JUST TRYING TO GET IT BACK ON THE I KNOW.
OKAY, SO YOU, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
HOW WE FINALLY GOT TO YES SIR.
I HAVE MY ALARM BOX SET JUST IN CASE.
UH, WE HAVE A FEW MINOR LINE TRANSFERS IN FOUR AND ATED PRECINCT FOUR MOVING $30 FROM UH, CERTAIN ACCOUNTS TO DUES S AND THEN ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE MOVING 17,000 FROM ROAD MATERIALS TO TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SOME FINAL TRANSFERS AND SOME PROBATIONARY FUNDS WHICH ARE NOT COUNTY FUNDS MOVING 10,000 2 67 FROM NON RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL SERVICE AND REGIONAL JUVENILE PROBATION GRANT MOVE 15,000 NON JUST MOVED TO UH, AGREE TO WHAT THEY FINALLY AGREED TO WITH THE STATE FOR PROBATION.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, AND AS PART OF THESE SAME FUNDS WE'VE GOT A $1 AND A $2 BUDGET AMENDMENT TO AGREE FILE BUDGET FROM STATE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE.
COMMISSIONER MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, WHAT I'D RATHER DO BEFORE WE DO THE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT, UH, ANYBODY, ANY REMARKS FROM VISITORS? I GUESS THEY ALL OUT ALRIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY REMARKS FROM, THEY MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND, UH, WHILE THE PRESIDENT'S STILL HERE, Y'ALL MAY STICK AROUND FOR THE REST OF THE, UH, OF THE MEETING.
ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING MEET NEXT MONDAY BECAUSE WE JUST HAD THIS MEETING, BUT WE WILL HAVE A COURT MEETING ON THE 31ST OR 31ST MONDAY THE 31ST.
I'M GONNA BE OUTTA TOWN THAT DAY.
SO COMMISSIONER ROWDEN, WILL YOU BE HERE AS A SENIOR MEMBER? YES.
EVERY BIT, EVERY BIT OF, I'M EVERYBODY HERE TO CONDUCT THAT MEETING, BUT ONE OF THE, I BRING THAT UP.
UH, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER AT LEAST ON A TRIAL BASIS, AND I THINK I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS TIME OR TWO WITH SOME OF YOU ABOUT HAVING OUR MEETINGS ONLY TWICE A MONTH, MAYBE ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONTH.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS AS, AS NEEDED.
UH, AND TRY THAT FOR A WHILE AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
I'D LIKE, WE DON'T, WE, WE WILL NEED TO FORMALLY APPROVE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR NORMAL MEETING DAYS, BUT ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY ABOUT DOING THAT? STARTING MAYBE HAVING IT IN, UH, HAVING THAT ON THE AGENDA MAY MAYBE EVEN ON THE 31ST OR WE CAN WAIT UNTIL WE COME BACK IN, UH, IN FEBRUARY.
ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IT SOUNDS UH, ALRIGHT TO ME, ESPECIALLY AFTER HEARING SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONER JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS THAT WE HEARD AT THE CONFERENCE.
THEY, A LOT OF 'EM MEET, UH, TWICE A MONTH.
SOME OF 'EM MEET, UM, ONCE A MONTH AND THEN HAVE MEETINGS AT NIGHT, UH, WHATEVER.
BUT THERE WAS JUST, EVERYBODY DOES A A DIFFERENT THING.
WE FOUND OUT RIGHT QUICKLY WE WERE ABOUT THE ONLY ONES THAT MET FOUR TIMES A MONTH.
SO YEAH, I, I KIND OF SPREAD ME 'CAUSE I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS JUST KIND OF THE STANDARD THAT, THAT ALL COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
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MONDAY, BUT, UH, WELL, IT'S, IT'S, AND ANY, IT'S NOT ON AGENDA.WE CAN'T ANY ACTION ON WE ALLOW FOR ANYTHING EMERGENCY LIKE THIS.
JUST LIKE, SIR, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I THAT SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE A LONGER AGENDA LIKE THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE A LOT COUNTIES DO CONSENT AGENDAS WHERE THEY APPROVE, YOU KNOW, THE MINUTES, THE TAX OFFICE REPORT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PULL SOMETHING OUT FROM THE CONSENT END THAT WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT ON DOWN THE WAY OR DO THAT, THAT I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA TO TRY AND SEE.
I THINK IT WOULD STREAMLINE OUR MEETINGS.
SOME THE OTHER THING I WOULD WANT US TO DO, AND WE WON'T DO THIS RIGHT NOW PERHAPS, BUT I THINK ON DOWN THE WAY IS LOOK AT HAVING AN EVENING MEETING MAYBE AT LEAST ONCE A QUARTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR PEOPLE THAT ORDINARILY ARE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE COURT MEETINGS DURING THE DAY AND JUST SEE KIND OF WHAT THE TURNOUT IS.
UH, WE HONOR PEOPLE FROM TIME TO TIME AND, AND UH, MAYBE IF WE HAD AN EVENING MEETING, UH, PEOPLE, THEIR FAMILIES COULD BE SURE EASIER THAN WHAT THEY CAN DURING THE, THE DAY I HAVING AS A REGULAR MEETING, BUT ALSO HAVING IT IN THE EVENING TOO.
AND UH, AND WE COULD ALWAYS CALL THAT AS A SPECIAL MEETING TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IF, IF THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL HAVE THAT ON THE, UH, AGENDA THEN TO FORMALLY TAKE ACTION ON.
I FOUND OUT ONE THING WE FOUND OUT IS, IS THAT TYPICALLY COMMISSIONER COURTS SET THEIR MEETINGS TIME DURING THE MONTH JANUARY.
THEY, ME, UH, MENTIONED THAT TO US AS WELL.
SO I THINK THE MEETING TIME THAT WAS SET, THIS COURT, I, WHEN IT WAS DONE, JUDGE, IS THE SECOND MONDAY, THAT'S THE DAY THAT YOU'RE SUPPO THAT IS SET FOR LEGALLY YOU TO ME.
SO YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO MEET ANY.
BUT THAT ONE THE SECOND MONDAY, IS THAT SET BY, UH, THIS YES, JEN SAID IT WAS SET BY THIS COURT.
BUT WE'VE BEEN IN PRACTICE, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN MEETING EVERY, EVERY MONDAY OR JUST ABOUT EVERY MONDAY.
SO, WELL, I THINK AT ONE TIME THEY MET EVERY OTHER WEEK, BUT THE AGENDA WAS TAKING ALL DAY.
SO THAT'S WHEN THEY DECIDED TO CHANGE IT TO, WELL, HEAVEN FORBID THAT'D TAKE ALL DAY, BUT IF IT DOES, WE'LL GO BACK MEETING EVERY WE WE'LL WE'LL TRY THIS.
YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY DO WHAT WE CAN TO KEEP THAT HAPPENING.
THAT WOULD NOT BE A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE I DON'T THINK.
FEEL LIKE, SAY THAT WE PAYING TO BUILD WHATEVER THE, THE 21 ITEMS YOU HAD, WE HAD ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX OF 'EM.
LUCKILY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVINGS.
AND I HOPE THE MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA, I HOPE Y'ALL TOOK NOTE OF THAT AND UH, THEY WERE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS HERE TODAY.
SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.
ESPECIALLY WITH, I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE HEALTH, HEALTH AND THE CELL PHONE ISSUE AND THEN THE COLLECTION OF THESE FINES OUT THERE.
WE CAN GET THAT TO ROLL, WHICH I THINK WE WILL.
THAT'S GOING TO BE HUGE FOR, FOR OUR COUNTY.
UH, THE BUILDING OF THE BRIDGE SAY WAS HUNDRED 9,000 THAT, YEAH.
SO ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING I, WE DID THIS TIME THAT WAS ON THE COST SETTING POINT AS OPPOSED TO YEAH.
Y'ALL TAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
IS JIM GONE SOMEWHERE? IS JIM GONE? THAT THE REPUTATION? I MIGHT START USING THAT ABSOLUTELY.
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TOO MUCH TROUBLE OVER TO GET PARTY PERMIT, YOU KNOW, 14TH, I MEAN PART THIS 14TH.SO IT'LL BE FEBRUARY THE 14TH.
WELL THAT'D JUST BE SKIPPING WHAT I'M MEETING THOUGH.
14TH WHAT WE MIGHT DO, WE MIGHT HAVE A WORKSHOP, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS ON SEVENTH.
DO WE, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BILLS AS TO, SO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? CONSIDER A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
SO MAY MR. MANION, MR. CLARK, ALL IN FAVOR? SAY A OPPOSED THANK I CALLED SOMEONE.