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STATE'S, UH, 2011, THE MEETING OF THE KALIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
WE'RE READY TO BEGIN AND WE WILL START WITH OUR INVOCATION, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK COMMISSIONER JACKSON IF HE WOULD TO DO THAT.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO BOTH FLAGS.
AND IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME NOW, IF OUR HEAD HEAVEN.
THANK YOU FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD LOOK DOWN AND CONTINUE TO BLESS THIS COURT.
FATHER, BLESS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE COURT.
THEN FATHER, LOOK DOWN PAT AND BLESS THE PEOPLE THAT SITS ON THIS COURT.
BLESS US IN OUR DECISION MAKING THAT IT'D BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR ITS PEOPLE.
THEN FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN UPON OUR TRUTH THAT ARE OVERSEAS, BLESS THEM THAT THEY MAY HAVE A SAFE TRIP BACK HOME.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN OUR SON JESUS NAME.
I ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UN GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I'M HONORED THE TEXAS FLAG ALLEGIANCE TO LEAD TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE ON THE AGENDA.
OR JEFF, I'M SORRY, INTERRUPT.
CAN I BRING THIS UP? UH, ABOUT THREE MEETINGS AGO, SOMEONE LEFT A JACKET IN HERE AND WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO EVERY MEETING, BUT WE HAVEN'T PUBLICIZED IT ANY, SO WOULD YOU HOLD THAT UP ONE MORE TIME IF ANYBODY HAS LEFT THIS JACKET IN HERE? UH, WITH TO COME GET IT.
IF NOT, IT'LL I'LL APPEAR IN THE NEXT COUNTYWIDE GARAGE SALE.
ANY REMARKS FROM VISITORS? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S TURNED IN A, UH, SHEET WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE COURT? NO.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY, I THINK, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING HAD AN ANNOUNCEMENT HE WANTED TO RELAY TO EVERYBODY.
I WOULD LIKE TO URGE ALL MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC TO, UH, BE SURE.
AND KEEP IN MIND THIS WEEKEND AS OUR HEARING AS OUR COLLIN COUNTY LIVESTOCK SHOW, UH, I BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT OUR KIDS AND SEE WHAT ALL THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE PAST YEAR.
UH, I ATTENDED THE HENDERSON COUNTY LIVESTOCK SHOW LAST WEEKEND, AND THEY HAD A REALLY BIG TURNOUT.
AND, UH, I LIKE TO URGE THE CITIZENS, COMAN COUNTY TO COME OUT AND TURN OUT FOR OUR KIDS.
THAT'S THIS WEEKEND STARTING, UH, FRIDAY.
THAT'S WE, SOME OF THE EARLY THINGS, JUDGE.
WE, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ACCEPTANCE OF THE 2009 2010 FINANCIAL AUDIT AS PRESENTED BY HENRY AND PETERS, OUR, UH, OUTSIDE AUDITOR TYLER, AND REPRESENTING THEM TODAY.
WE HAVE, UH, JEFF
AND, UH, JEFF'S GOTTA GET BACK FOR A MEETING AT 1130, I BELIEVE, AT TYLER.
SO WE, UH, PUT HIM EARLY ON THE AGENDA SO HE COULD MAKE THE, THE DRIVE BACK HOME.
SO, JEFF, THANKS TO BEING HERE.
UH, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
AND, UH, UH, THANKS TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE.
UH, FIRST LEMME JUST SAY THAT, UH, THE, THE AUDIT WENT WELL THIS YEAR.
WE CAN'T HELP BUT BE AN INTERRUPTION TO THE DAY-TO-DAY, UH, WORKFLOW, PARTICULARLY THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND TREASURER'S OFFICE.
UH, WE IMPACT OTHERS AS WELL, BUT WE AS ALWAYS RECEIVED A VERY GOOD COOPERATION.
UH, PLEASE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU RECEIVED, UH, AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION ON YOUR AUDIT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
UNQUALIFIED SOUNDS BAD, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF OPINION THAT WE CAN GIVE IN TERMS OF THE, UH, UH, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL PARTS THAT, TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
I BELIEVE YOU RECEIVED A COPY OF IT LAST WEEK.
WE MET WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, UM, LAST WEEK, AND WE WENT OVER THE REPORT IN DETAIL AND DISCUSSED SEVERAL ITEMS WITH THEM.
HAD A CHANCE TO ENTERTAIN THEIR QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE ANSWERS AS WELL.
SO, I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS VERY BRIEF TODAY, AND, UH, UH, AS ALWAYS, I'LL BE PLEASED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TODAY OR TRY TO TAKE THOSE AT A LATER DATE IF YOU, UH, WISH AS WELL.
UM, UH, FIRST OFF, THE OPINION IS ON PAGE ONE.
THE SECOND ITEM THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE REPORT IS ON PAGE TWO.
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DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS.THAT'S A REQUIRED PART OF THE REPORT AND ONE THAT I WOULD URGE YOU TO, TO READ, UM, UH, THOROUGHLY BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE A GOOD OVERVIEW OF THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL POSITION AND PARTICULARLY WHAT OCCURRED THIS PAST YEAR.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT.
UH, THERE'S OTHER IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE, OF THE, UH, FINANCIAL STATEMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THE OVERALL FINANCIAL CONDITION, I GUESS.
UM, ON PAGE 12, YOU'LL SEE THE STATEMENT OF CHANGES IN, UH, OF THE, UH, GOVERNMENT FUND BALANCE.
AND, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE, THE ACTUAL GOVERNMENT FUND BALANCE DECLINED THIS YEAR BY $2,375,000.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE COUNTY IS, IS LOOKING AT THIS AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS SITUATION, BUT, BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN'T BE SUSTAINED YEAR IN, YEAR OUT.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOVERNMENTS, THIS COUNTY JUST BEING ONE IN OUR AREA THAT HAS, UH, HAS UH, REALLY FELT THE IMPACT OF THE OVERALL DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY.
OUR FIRM DEALS WITH CITIES, COUNTIES, COLLEGES, UH, THEY'VE ALL BEEN IMPACTED NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
SO IT'S NOT COMFORTING, BUT YOU'RE NOT UNIQUE IN THAT ASPECT.
UM, BUT, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK THIS PAST YEAR, I THINK THE DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES AND JUST THE DECREASE IN THE OVERALL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY HAS, HAS BEEN THE, THE CAUSE.
AND, AND, UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE RESULT, UM, DURING THE PAST YEAR, YOU HAD A BUDGET, A, A BUDGET DEFICIT OF $385,000.
THE ACTUAL DEFICIT ENDED UP BEING ABOUT 1,000,600 40,000 AGAIN, DUE LARGELY TO THE DECLINE IN PROPERTY VALUES, BUT ALSO, UM, THEY DECLINE IN REVENUES FROM FROM FEES AND SERVICES.
UM, WE ALSO, LET ME SHIFT GEARS A LITTLE BIT.
WE DID DISCUSS SOME ITEMS THAT WE FELT LIKE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR ENHANCING THE, UH, INTERNAL CONTROLS AND THE PROCEDURES AND STRUCTURE.
UH, WENT THROUGH SOME OF THOSE WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.
WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. JONES, UM, AND FOR HIS AREA AS WELL.
AND WE HAD A LETTER THAT, UH, THAT I PROVIDED TO JUDGE WOOD THIS MORNING THAT HE WILL GIVE TO YOU, UH, ABOUT ONE COMMENT IN PARTICULAR THAT WE THOUGHT WAS OF IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO, TO ISSUE THAT LETTER.
UH, AGAIN, ALL THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, UM, IN, IN GREAT DETAIL, REALLY ONLY COMMENTS THAT I HAD.
UM, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SERVICE, THE COOPERATION WE RECEIVED, UH, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOUR COUNTY AS, AS WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTS RIGHT NOW.
QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GEESE AS GE OR GUYS? ASHLEY? ACTUALLY DC BUT I ANSWER TO A LOT OF THINGS.
I'M PLEASED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ANYTIME.
UM, UH, YOU, YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION IN THE REPORT, SO, UH, QUESTIONS OCCUR AFTER TODAY'S MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS.
IF YOU'RE WELCOME TO GIVE YOU A CALL, I'D BE PLEASED TO DO THAT.
I GUESS THE ONLY, UH, COMMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE, IT ACTUALLY WOUND UP BEING A LITTLE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED.
I THINK WE HAD IN INITIATED OR INITIALLY EXPECTED A, A FUND BALANCE, A MINUS SPHERE OF 1.8 MILLION.
SO IT ACTUALLY WOUND UP BEING 1.669.
AND, UH, AS MOST OF YOU I KNOW ALL THE COURTS AWARE OF, WE ARE, UH, MIGHTLY ADDRESSING EVERY ONE OF THOSE ISSUES AS FAR AS REVENUE AND, UH, THE REVENUE PART OF IT, AS WELL AS THE EXPENSE PART OF IT TOO.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE, UH, ALONG THE WAY, UH, TOWARDS REMEDYING OUR PROBLEM BY THE END OF THIS YEAR AND CERTAINLY BEGIN FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
I THINK ONE THING THAT'S, UM, THAT'S CERTAINLY DIFFERENT WE, WITH, WITH GOVERNMENTS IS THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO REACT AS QUICK AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS.
PRIVATE BUSINESS CAN TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION AND, AND, AND HAVE IMMEDIATE RESULTS, BUT A GOVERNMENT HAS GOT TO PLAN FARTHER IN ADVANCE AND MAKE CHANGES THAT, UH, UM, FOR DOWN THE ROAD.
SO IT, IT'S REALLY, I THINK, EVEN MORE OF A CHALLENGE FOR GOVERNMENTS IN TIMES LIKE WE HAVE THAN THAN PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
I SAY THAT JEFF IS THE TYPICAL BEARER OF BAD NEWS, BUT HE'S BRINGING US THE TRUTH YES.
I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS DURING AUDIT COMMITTEE THAT ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, 2009, 2010.
I HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER TO ACCEPT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SAY AYE.
AND I SURE APPRECIATE YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH THAT.
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HAVE, UH, UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA WE HAVE ADAM A THROUGH G.UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA OR ANY DISCUSSION THERE? I MIGHT MENTION THAT, UH, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT, WE ALWAYS GET THESE, UH, REQUESTS FOR DROPS BE PLACED ALONG OUR ROADS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND NOBODY EVER SHOWS UP FROM THE, FROM THE PHONE COMPANY AND IT JUST SEEMS TO BE A ROUTINE MATTER.
BUT, UH, WHEN WE GO TO CLEAN BAR DITCHES AND, UH, WHAT HAVE YOU AND WIND UP GETTING THESE CABLES AND STUFF AND THEY WANNA HOLD OUR FEET TO THE FIREARM, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, MORE OR LESS EXPRESS MY WISH THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE PHONE COMPANY WOULD BE HERE.
SO WE COULD TELL 'EM THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY SEEING AFTER THEIR CONTRACTORS MAKE SURE THAT THESE LINES ARE BURIED AT THE CORRECT DEPTH WHERE WE DON'T INCUR ANY COST LATER ON WHEN WE DO GO TO WORK.
I DUNNO HOW THAT MIGHT BE DONE.
ARE THOSE SENT TO THE, AREN'T THEY SENT PRECINCT THEN Y'ALL FORWARD THEM TO US SENT, THEY'RE SENT DIRECTLY TO ANGIE.
WELL, MINE SENT TO AT T SENT ME MINE AND I, I NEED TO GET SOME VERIFICATION ON, ON WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO.
AT T WAS SENT FROM, SOMETIMES THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE WORK WHEN THEY SAID, YEAH, NOTIFICATION, UH, DO I NEED TO BRING IT TO COMMISSIONER COURT HERE APPROVAL AND THE WORK IS ALREADY DONE.
UH, SOMETIMES, UH, THE OTHER DAY WE HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE THE THEY
WELL, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 1824 INCHES DEEP.
SO IF IT'S SIX INCHES DEEP, WE GO OUT THERE AND LAY THE ROPE, WE CUT THE LINE.
AND THEY WANT US TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
DO I NEED TO CONTINUE BRING UP THE COMMISSION COURT? UH, A COMMENT, JASON.
I I THINK THAT THAT WHOLE THING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED VERY STRENUOUSLY.
IT'S JUST A, THEY JUST SENT IT IN AND THEY SOMETIMES ALREADY HAVE DONE IT.
UH, HARDLY EVER DOES ANYONE COME BY AND GET, UH, A FORM TO FILL OUT THAT SHOWS EM, UH, THAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE 24 OR 36 INCHES.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY EVER PICKS UP ONE OF THOSE ANYMORE.
WELL, I CALL AT T ON THAT INCIDENT AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE NEVER GET, WE NEVER GET A SENT FORM TO ASK FOR PERMISSION.
I HAVE A STACK OF, AND SOMEBODY READ HIM OFF.
HE SAID, WELL, I GUESS MY SECRETARY DROPPED THE BOX.
SO IF HE CALLED IT, THEY DID SEND IT IN, BUT THEY HAD ALREADY DONE THE WORK.
IF WE HAVE A DISCUSSION MEETING TWO OR GO THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY EVEN DO THAT.
THERE'S SOME, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND.
THERE'S SOME UTILITIES THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS AND THE TELEPHONE COMPANY IS DEFINITELY THE LEAST STRINGENT RESTRICTIONS ON, BUT I THINK COMMISSION MANAGE SOUTHERN LINK.
WELL THEY SEND, THEY SEND A WHOLE FORM.
THEY AT T JUST SEND ONE NEGOTI PAPER SAYING WE'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH.
WELL, EVERY TIME YOU CUT ONE OF THE AT T LINES, IT TURNS INTO A SIX MONTHS THING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO SUE YOU FOR THE DIFFERENCE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TWO INCHES UNDER THE GROUND.
AND WE'VE ALREADY KIND RESPONDED WITH THEIR ATTORNEY TWICE AND WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU IF WE GET ANOTHER RESPONSE BACK FROM THEM, YOU KNOW, TELLING THEM THAT IT WAS FOUR INCHES ABOVE UNDER THE GROUND, UH, EVERYBODY SAW IT.
UH, THEY JUST, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT, UH, THAT THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE RULES.
WELL, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU TURNING IT OVER TO ME.
I'M WONDERING, JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS? THE COMMISSIONERS ARE CORRECT BECAUSE I I, I TYPICALLY GET ONE EVERY COUPLE MONTHS FROM, YOU KNOW, I ALMOST GO AROUND THE ROAD AND SAY, I GOT ONE FROM FROM COMMISSIONER BROWN FROM HIM.
AND, AND THE OTHER COMMON, UH, DENOMINATOR IS, ALTHOUGH HUNTER FROM AT T LIKE COMMISSIONER JACKSON SUMMER FROM CENTURY LANE, THEY'RE ALMOST ALWAYS AT FAULT.
I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN I SEND BACK A LETTER AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED, IT USUALLY BEGRUDGINGLY THE END OF IT.
AND SO THERE, THERE'S SOME EITHER COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN OR ELSE THEY'RE JUST GONNA DO WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA DO AND THEN ASK FOR MONEY ON THE BACK END.
WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T PAID ONE THAT I KNOW OF SINCE THAT THAT'S BEEN SENT TO ME.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A LOT OF TIMES MISTAKES THAT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MADE, NOT BY THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT BY, BUT LIKE THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO INCHES UNDER GROUND.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PAY FOR THAT
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IF YOU'RE NOT BEARING THE DEBT AT WHICH THE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REIMBURSE YOU FOR WHAT IF I REALIZE THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS IS OF, OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO OUR CITIZENS, BUT ALSO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY WATCHING THAT CONTRACTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY BURY THAT STUFF DEEP ENOUGH.AND I JUST WONDERED, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT IF WE TURN DOWN SOME OF THESE, MAYBE IT MIGHT GET SOMEBODY FROM THE PHONE COMPANY TO COME TO COURT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHY'D YOU TURN ME DOWN? WELL THEN WE COULD EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS TO 'EM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE IGNORING OUR REQUEST TO, TO DO IT RIGHT AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE, UH, I'VE, I'VE MADE SEVERAL REQUESTS TO THEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT I'VE HEARD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IS, IS THAT WHENEVER YOUR ROAD CREWS ARE OUT WORKING ON SOMETHING AND THEY DO CUT A LINE, OR SOMETIMES THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY CUT IT PROPERLY, BUT, UH, IS THE FACT THAT TAKE A PICTURE OF SHOWING THAT IT WAS ONLY JUST FOUR INCHES TO LOAD THE GROUND OR SOMETHING.
WITH THE TAPE MEASURE, YOU KNOW, SHOWING ACTUALLY HOW LOW.
AND THAT MIGHT BE ONE THING THAT WOULD HELP US, UH, AS FAR AS ANY LIABILITY WE MIGHT HAVE.
BUT, UH, I, I JUST WONDER, I MEAN, WE CAN, IF THEY COME TO MY OFFICE AND WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, WE CAN DO THIS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA UNLESS SOMEBODY GOES AND MAYBE AND TALKS TO THE COMMISSION OR THAT PRECINCT OR THEY REQUIRE THEM TO COME TO COURT.
OR, AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COMMITTEES WORKING NOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A COUPLE OF YOU GUYS THAT DEAL WITH THIS EVERY DAY, WE CAN INVITE THE EFFECTIVE PARTIES IN AND UH, TELL 'EM WE WANT YOU TO COME MEET WITH US AND PERHAPS WORK OUT HOW WE CAN BETTER HANDLE THIS.
NOBODY INTENTIONALLY WANTS TO CUT OUR COMMUNICATION LINE.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANYBODY.
AND HOW WE CAN AVOID DOING THAT.
I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A A WAY TO THAT COULD BE THING.
WE'VE NEVER EVER HAD TO PAY ONE.
WE'VE GONE TO BACK AND FORTH WITH, UH, LETTERS PROBABLY TWO OR THREE ON THE ALL A AT DEFECT.
THE OTHER, UH, WHAT YOU CALL, WHAT, WHAT IS THEIR NAME NOW? THE OTHER ONE THAT WE USE, THE CENTURY LANE.
THEY COME, THEY USUALLY JUST COME OUT AND FIX IT AND THEY DON'T SAY MUCH ABOUT IT.
AT T TURNS IT OVER TO SOME OTHER COLLECTION.
YOU HAVE TO CON YOU HAVE TO CONTACT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONTACT WITH THEM TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT TIMES BEFORE IT FIND IT DIES OUT.
THREE OF THE REQUESTS TODAY ARE CENTURY LANE AND ONE IS AT GUESS MOST AT COME OUT PRECINCT THREE AND MAYBE PRECINCT.
THEY NEVER US, BUT WE, WE DISPUTE EVERY CLAIM THEY EVER GIVE TO US.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE DO THE PICTURES AND THE TAPE MEASURE THING AND SO THEY WEREN'T DEEP ENOUGH AND USUALLY THEY JUST SAY, OKAY, HAVE T WHEN WE DO TEAR PEDESTAL AND WE KNOW WE TORN IT UP, WE'LL SAY IT WAS YEAH, WE DO THAT.
WELL I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS, IT DOES AFFECT OUR CITIZENS AND I DO THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO KEEP IT FROM HAPPENING.
BUT DO YOU WANT TO, WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? I WOULD, WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUIRE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE PHONE COMPANIES WHEN THEY SEND THESE REQUESTS IN, INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING A BLANKET REQUEST FOR FOUR OR FIVE DROPS AND THEY'D COME IN AND AT LEAST TELL US WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
WELL HOW WOULD IT BE IF WE DON'T WANT TO, IF WE DON'T DO A COMMITTEE, HOW WOULD IT BE WHEN WE GET THESE AND IF THEY'VE NOT GONE THROUGH YOUR PRECINCT GOING THROUGH YOU AS A COMMISSIONER AND YOUR OFFICE THAT WE JUST TELL THEM THEY'VE GOTTA DO THAT BEFORE WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
I'D LIKE THAT REAL WELL WE DO THAT.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING ADMINISTRATIVE.
AND JC AS FAR AS AT&T DOING IT AFTER THE FACT, I GUESS WE PROBABLY NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY AT AT T MAYBE WE CAN TALK WITH THEM OR YOU CAN HAVE THEM CALL ME OR SOMETHING.
WE'LL DO THAT AT T MAY HAVE A SEPARATE DEAL.
THEY MAY HAVE HAVE SOME, SOME SORT OF UH, UH, WAY THEY'RE ABLE TO GET AROUND THAT.
BUT, UH, THEY USE, THEY USED REQUEST, LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF TIMES THE WORK IS ALREADY GONE IN THAT PROCESS BEING DONE BY THE TIME I RECEIVE REQUEST, I JUST HERE LATER START PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THEY DONE YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET IT CLEAR.
DO I NEED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA? I DON'T KNOW IF JOHN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN RESEARCH FOR US? I CAN TALK WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON 'CAUSE I'VE GOT SEVERAL FROM HIS.
ATP KIND OF HAS THE, TO ME HAS THE ATTITUDE THAT THEY'RE JUST GONNA DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND WHATEVER HAPPENS, THEY'LL JUST TURN, GO TO ATTORNEY.
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I LIKE RUN THROUGH THE COVER.TRY JUST RUN THROUGH THE COVER BECAUSE IT'S QUICKER.
LIKE AT TI GUESS THEY DO THE SAME THING.
THEY THEY SUBCONTRACT THAT OUT.
AND THE GUYS OUT THERE NOT REALLY AT, SO THEY JUST DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
ALRIGHT, WELL WHY DON'T WE DO THAT.
WE'LL TRY THIS INITIALLY AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN GET TO JOHN IF WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A COURT ORDER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAY WE CAN DO IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO WHEN THEY COME TO MY OFFICE.
WE'LL, IF THEY COME TO US FOR, WE WILL TELL 'EM THEY'VE GOT GO THROUGH YOU AND THEN WHEREVER YOU TELL US IT'S OKAY, WE'LL HANDLE IT THAT WAY.
THAT'S, IF THAT'S OKAY, WE DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, OR APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO MAY 2ND HAVE A MOTION, A MOTION FROM MR. JACKSON AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ME.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GROUPS NOW THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, RECOGNIZE THIS MORNING.
WE'VE EVEN GOT A COUPLE OF GOLD PLATED, UH, PLAQUES HERE ARE CERTIFICATES.
I'M NOT SURE THAT, I DON'T THINK IT'S REAL GOLD JUST IN CASE ANYBODY ASK FIRST ONE IS, UH, SURE IT'S NOT THAT.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, TO PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2011 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION AND AWARENESS MONTH IN COFFMAN COUNTY.
AND WE HAVE, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S MS. BELL HERE THIS MORNING.
LUCILLE BELL AND VICKY NETTLETON.
SO THEY EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO LADIES HERE.
WELL, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING BE HERE.
BUT, UH, AT ANY RATE, WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND WE WILL GIVE THAT TO THEM WHENEVER THEY, UH, UH, WHENEVER THEY'RE HERE.
BUT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS TO YOU BECAUSE I THINK, UH, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR YOU.
WE, WE ARE A PART OF THE KAUFMAN ROCK WALL COUNTY CASA GROUP AND, UH, DO DO A GREAT JOB FOR OUR, FOR OUR KIDS.
SO, UH, HERE'S, WE'VE GOT OUR SPEAKER AGAIN COMING THROUGH.
BUT ANYWAY, WHEREAS THE COUNTY OF COFFMAN PRIDES ITSELF ON GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, CONTRIBUTES OF LIFE AMONG OUR CITIZENS.
AND WHEREAS LONG STAR CASA IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE NATIONAL COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATE CASA ASSOCIATION, SPEAKS FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF ABUSE AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE JUVENILE COURTS.
AND THIS IS PART I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND INTERESTING, WHEREAS MORE THAN 150 CHILDREN, UH, IN THE KAMAN COUNTY AREA SUFFER FROM SOME FORM OF ABUSE OR NEGLECT EACH YEAR.
AND WHEREAS THROUGH A NATIONAL EFFORT, KAMAN COUNTY COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO JOIN TOGETHER TO RAISE AWARENESS FOR THOSE CHILDREN, FALL VICTIM TO ABUSE AND NEGLECT THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF APRIL.
WHEREAS THIS EFFORT WILL GIVE ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY, UH, A CHANCE FOR A SAFE DEPOSIT FUTURE.
NOW THEREFORE, WE THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN US TO HERE PRIOR HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL, 2011 AS KAUFMAN COUNTY CHILD ABUSE AND PREVENTION AND AWARENESS MONTH IN THIS COUNTY.
AND IN DOING ALSO URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN IN A NATIONAL EFFORT TO RAISE AWARENESS AND HELP PREVENT CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT.
AND THAT'S SIGNED AS OF THIS DAY BY MYSELF AND LAURA.
AND, UH, AGAIN, WE WILL MAKE THAT THEY ARE HAVING A, UH, A CASA RECOGNITION IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ON, UH, APRIL GOT THE DATE HERE.
AND IT IS A WAY TO, UH, MAKE OUR PUBLIC AWARE OF THE FACT THAT A CHILD ABUSE IS, UH, A PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTY.
AND I GIVE YOU THAT DATE HERE JUST A SECOND.
IT'LL BE NEXT, UH, NOT THIS THURSDAY, BUT THURSDAY, APRIL 7TH AT 12 NOON.
AND THEY'LL HAVE A SHARP PROGRAM IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, WE, UH, RECEIVED A VERY NICE, UH, UH, CITATION FOR OUR, FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL.
CAN WE APPROVE? CAN WE, PARDON? CAN WE, OH, I'M SORRY.
WE APPROVE COMMISSIONER CLARK TO HAVE A SECOND.
SECOND, MR. MANNING, ANY DISCUSSION?
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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ONE IS TO OUR LOCAL, UH, BRANCH OF THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
AND THEY PRESENT THIS TO, UH, NOT ALL THE COMMISSIONS GET, THIS IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT OUR HISTORICAL COMMISSION DID RECEIVE THE 2010 DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD, UH, PRESENTED TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION IN RECOGNITION OF ITS ACTIVE AND WELL BALANCED PRESERVATION PROGRAM.
AND WE INVITED SOME MEMBERS THIS MORNING.
I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVE.
SO JAMIE LABEL IS HERE FROM ANY OF YOU FOLKS FROM THE
WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND CONGRATULATE YOU FOR YOUR, UH, YOUR WORK.
LET'S GIVE 'EM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY ABOUT A MONTH AGO, GO OUT, UH, SWEAR MEMBERS IN YOU ARE AWARE OF AND INVITED.
JAMIE, YOU BETTER COME AROUND HERE, GET SOMEBODY UP.
THIS WILL, THIS WORK? OR THIS GONNA BE TOO MUCH FLARE HERE.
WE GONNA HAVE TO SCRUNCH UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
ONE, TWO, AND THREE AND ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
AND IT WAS JUST MENTIONED TO ME THAT I BELIEVE, UH, MS. LEG SAID THIS WAS THE 15 EXECUTIVE TIME THAT OUR COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED THIS AWARD.
SO THAT'S PRETTY, UH, NOT EVERYBODY CAN SAY THAT.
SO AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.
UNLESS I FORGET TO CALL FOR A VOTE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, UH, APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION? COMMISSIONER JACKSON?
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WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE.THIS IS JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MOVE OUT OF 15 UP THIS TIME.
UH, THIS IS, UH, WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE FROM THE CITY OF CARROLL.
AND, UH, UH, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THEM MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
UH, WE HAVE STEVE ROGERS, I BELIEVE, WHO IS THE CITY ENGINEER FOR THE CITY OF CARROLL.
THIS WILL BE AN ACTION ITEM THAT WE'LL NEED TO APPROVE.
UH, UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU DO APPROVE OF IT.
A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF RE IN ITS EFFORTS TO SECURE A WATERSHED PROTECTION AND FLOOD PREVENTION GRANT TO REHABILITATE FOS NUMBER EIGHT SEVEN A CEDAR CREEK.
THIS HAS TO DO WITH, EVEN ON THIS MOUNT SAYS NEW CITY, CARROLL CITY LAKE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY 50, 60 YEARS OLD.
I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, MOVING ME UP.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, I, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, ANGIE AND YOUR OFFICE FOR, UH, HELPING ME GET THIS ON THE AGENDA AND MAKING SURE IT WAS ON THE 9:30 AM AGENDA, NOT ON THE 6:00 PM AGENDA.
I, UH, I I GO TO ENOUGH NIGHT MEETINGS AS IT'S, BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I'VE GIVEN YOU A MAP HERE.
I WANNA START WITH IT IF I CAN.
WHAT I'VE GIVEN YOU IS A MAP OF A LAKE THAT THE CITY OF TERRELL OWNS.
IT'S ABOUT, UH, SEVEN MILES EAST OF THE CITY.
IT'S A KNOWN AS, UH, FLOOD RETARDING STRUCTURE NUMBER 87 A IN CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED AREA.
IT'S ALSO KNOWN AS NEW TERRELL CITY BAY.
AND IT'S KNOWN AS, UH, ELMO BIKE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE HERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MAP, IT'S US 80 AND, UH, FM 27 28 HERE IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HERE.
WE OWN A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND ACRES.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME FLOOD LEASE AREAS AROUND THE LAKE.
UM, KAUFMAN COUNTY IS ONE OF NINE WHAT'S CALLED SPONSORING LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS OF THIS LAKE HERE.
AND I'LL GET BACK TO THAT HERE IN IN JUST A MINUTE.
THIS LAKE WAS BUILT IN 1955 BY THE CITY OF TER AS A, AS A SOURCE LAKE FOR DRINKING WATER.
IT WAS UPGRADED TO A FLOOD RETARDING STRUCTURE IN 1967 BY THE SOIL CONSERVATION SERVICE.
UH, AS YOU, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE CITY SWITCHED TO THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT IN 2007, WE STARTED RECEIVING OUR WATER FROM THEM.
SO WE NO LONGER DRAW WATER FROM THIS STRUCTURE FOR DRINKING WATER, BUT WE STILL OWN IT.
WE STILL ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE DAM, WHICH IS ON THE LOWER END OF THIS, UH, YELLOW AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE LOWER END OF IT THERE.
UM, AND WE GET THE STEM INSPECTED ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS FROM THE NRCS, UH, THE NA, UH, THE, UH, NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION SERVICE, WHICH IS THE APP PREDECESSOR ORGANIZATION, THE SOIL CONSERVATION SERVICE.
THEY DID A DAM ASSESSMENT REPORT OF THIS DAM, UH, AT OUR REQUEST, AND THEY FOUND THAT THIS DAM HAS SOME, UH, IT DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT HYDRAULIC CRITERIA OF THE NRCS AND KIND OF BOIL IT DOWN HERE.
I CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU A LOT MORE DETAILS, BUT I WANT TRY TO BOIL DOWN THE CONVERSATION.
JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I'M HERE TODAY.
THE DAM BASICALLY NEEDS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF REPAIRS.
THIS, UH, RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS, UH, IS FOR THE, THE CITY, UH, TO APPLY FOR THE NRCS SMALL WATERSHED REHABILITATION.
UH, GRANT, WE RECEIVED THIS APPLICATION IN, UH, LATE JANUARY, AND THIS IS A 65% FEDERALLY FUNDED, 35% LOCALLY FUNDED PROGRAM.
AND SO YOU CAN DO THE MATH ON THAT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THIS'S COST, THAT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE CITY.
THE DEADLINE FOR THIS GRANT IS, IS THIS FRIDAY, APRIL 1ST.
AND, UH, I HAVE TO HAVE THREE OF THE SPONSORING LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS APPROVE RESOLUTIONS.
I'VE ALREADY HAD THE KAUFMAN VAN IN ROCKWALL SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT APPROVE RESOLUTION IN THE CITY OF TERRELL.
AND I NEED KAUFMAN COUNTY'S CONCURRENCE IN ORDER TO SUBMIT THIS GRANT APPLICATION.
I THINK I'VE MADE IT CLEAR, AND I'M GONNA ANNUNCIATE THIS AGAIN.
I'M NOT HERE TODAY ASKING FOR ANY, ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOUR SUPPORT
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AND PASSING THIS RESOLUTION.AND FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE COUNTY CLERK TO SIGN THE APPLICATION, THEY MUST ALSO DO THAT TOO.
SO, UH, I'M ASKING YOU FOR YOUR PASS THIS RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT.
AND, UH, AGAIN, UPON SUCCESSFUL, UH, UH, CONCURRENCE TODAY, I ALSO HAVE TO GET THE OTHER SIX SPONSORING LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS TO SIGN A RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDES HENDERSON COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, VANETTE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, ROCKWALL COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
AND SO I'LL BE GOING TO ALL OF THEM.
I'M GONNA INVITE THE COUNTY JUDGE IF, IF TIME ALLOWS AND SCHEDULED TO, TO GO WITH ME TO VISIT THEM, UH, ALSO, UH, TO SHOW SUPPORT.
SO I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY.
I, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION.
I'D ALSO LIKE FOR YOU TO SIGN THIS, UH, UH, APPLICATION.
THEN I'D LIKE TO DO IT TODAY BEFORE I LEAVE UPON SUCCESSFUL APPROVAL, THIS RESOLUTION IF I CAN.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, APPROVE RESOLUTION.
MR. JACKSON, ANY DISCUSSIONS? I'D LIKE FOR PROCEED TO REITERATE THE PART HE'S TOLD ME SEVERAL TIMES, THIS IS NOT GONNA COST US ANYTHING.
THIS IS JUST SUPPORT WHERE WE CAN, UH, HOPE THE CITY WILL GET THE GRANT TO, UH, BE ABLE TO PUT THE SH THE LIGHT BACK ON AND THERE BESIDE THIS PROPERTY DAMAGE.
I THINK THERE'S ISSUE OF SOME DRIVE SAFETY ISSUES DOWNSTREAM FROM THAT IF IT DOCK.
THIS, THIS DAM IS, UH, IS CLASSIFIED AS WHAT'S CALLED A HIGH HAZARD DAM.
AND THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S, UH, SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURES AND, UH, DOWNSTREAM OF IT IN THE CASE OF A CATASTROPHIC BREACH OF THIS DAM.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S CLASSIFIED THAT WAY.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S CONDITION AS BAD, IT DOES NEED IMPROVEMENT, BUT IT, IT'S NOT IN SERIOUS PERIL AND ABOUT TO TO BRIDGE, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S DOWNSTREAM, THEY DO WHAT'S CALLED AN INUNDATION STUDY.
IT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF, THERE'S 24 STRUCTURES DOWNSTREAM IN THE PATH OF THIS CASE OF A, A CATASTROPHIC BRIDGE TO THIS DAM.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CLASSIFIED AS HIGH HAZARD PLUS A HIGHWAY RIGHT THERE TOO.
OF COURSE, THIS LAKE FLOWS INTO CEDAR CREEK LAKE.
AND WHAT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THIS OR THAT THE CITY WOULD EVEN KNOW WHAT IS THE LONG RANGE PLAN FOR THIS LAKE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FAMILY? WELL, IT'S A, IT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
UH, UH, JUDGE AND I, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.
BUT A PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE DOING A, A DETAILED STUDY WITH THE, UH, TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND THE CITY OR, OR PARTNERING TOGETHER TO DO A GRANT.
WE'RE STUDYING WHAT THE LONG-TERM USES ARE FOR THIS LAKE AND, UH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, UH, REPORT BACK TO YOU THAT GRANT THAT, UH, GRANT IS COMPLETE.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME PARTNERS WE'RE LOOKING AT MARKETING THIS WATER TOO IS, IS DRINKING WATER.
SOME OF THOSE BEING NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, DALLAS WATER UTILITY TO SEE CANTON IS INTERESTED IN THE WATER FROM OUR LAKE.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT HAVING TO BUILD A RESERVOIR AND IT'S GONNA BE CHEAPER FOR THEM TO PIPE THIS WATER TO CANTON THAN IT IS FOR THEM TO BUILD A RESERVOIR.
THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
SO THERE'S, IT IS TIME MARCHES ON.
IT'S HARDER TO, TO SIDE AND BUILD RESERVOIRS FOR DRINKING WATER.
SO THIS WATER WILL BECOME MORE VALUABLE TO SOMEBODY.
IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL BODY OF WATER, RELATIVELY SPEAKING FOR THAT.
BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING TO MARKET THE WATER TO SOMEBODY.
ALL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSION? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK MUCH.
I I THE APPLICATION HERE, YOU'RE RIGHT HERE WITH THE SIGN.
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UM, OKAY.WHILE, UH, STEVE GETTING ALL HIS PAPERWORK SIGNED, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND THAT IS REPORT CONSTABLE FEATHER, UH, ACCEPTING THE PROFILING REPORT FOR HOW Y'ALL DOING? THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HEAR.
I LIKE SHELLY'S PROFILES LOOKING MUCH BETTER THIS YEAR.
NO, WE'RE, UH, TO WORK ON THOSE, UH, OUTSTANDING TICKETS AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, THEY GOOD.
I KNOW THE OTHER CONSTABLES HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG HELP FOR, FOR COUNTY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF CONS? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON MOVES, UH, COMMISSIONER RAL.
AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS TO ACCEPT THIS COURSE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS TO, UH, HEAR FROM GEORGE A, UH, ON THE IT COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, THAT, UH, HELD ON MARCH THE 11TH.
THIS HAS BEEN A VERY ACTIVE, UH, COMMITTEE AND MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR COUNCIL.
WAS IT ON THERE? WAS IT ON THERE? YEAH.
THERE WERE THREE ITEMS, UH, WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH.
UM, A COUPLE BRIEFLY MENTIONED, I THINK ONE WAS MENTIONED BEFORE.
UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK ARRIVED, UH, BRIEFLY.
WE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF SOFTWARE FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S, UH, PRECINCT, CORRECTOR, ROAD AND BRIDGE.
UM, SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE WE THOUGHT WE'D LET THOSE FOLKS TALK TO YOU GUYS.
IT'S JUST REAL SIMPLE, BASIC PROGRAM.
AND, UH, OF COURSE WE'VE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH ELLIS COUNTY LATELY, COMMISSIONER, AND, UH, SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THEY'D LIKE TO, UH, PRESENT A LITTLE DEMO, SHOW YOU THE SOFTWARE.
UM, THE OTHER ITEM, ANOTHER ITEM WAS, UH, WE WANT TO GET BACK ON TRACK WITH OUR DISASTER RECOVERY AND CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS.
WE BEGAN LAST YEAR MOVING FORWARD WITH A PLAN TO, UM, PREPARE THE COUNTY IN THE EVENT OF A TORNADO OR ANY KIND OF NATURAL DISASTER OR ANY PART OF THE COUNTY WOULD BE UNABLE TO FUNCTION.
UM, THE GOAL WE WORKED WITH, UM, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
UH, OF COURSE WE KNOW THE DUTIES HAVE KIND OF CHANGED IN THAT AREA, BUT LAST YEAR KATHY WORKED, UH, ON A PROJECT TO GET SOME LAPTOPS IN PLACE.
SO SHOULD ANYONE OR ANY PART OF THE COUNTY BE UNABLE TO FUNCTION, WE COULD MOVE THEM TO ANOTHER LOCATION AND CONTINUE.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE IF WE COULD IS TO ADD OUR NEW EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR TO THE COMMITTEE.
SO NEXT TIME WE MEET, WE CAN CONTINUE ON.
AND, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY PRACTICE AN EVENT.
SHOULD WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A FAILURE IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE OR IN THE TAX OFFICE.
UM, IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER, FOLKS WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED AND THEY PRACTICE.
SO WITH YOUR PERMISSION, WE'D LIKE TO ADD MR. HUEY TO, ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? I MEAN, THAT MAKES GREAT SENSE TO ME.
SO STEVE'S ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE TO DO.
AND THE EXERCISE I THINK IS GONNA BE VERY GOOD.
WE'LL, UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UM, THE LAW LIBRARY.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTION ON THE IT COMMITTEE REPORT? THEN I, OH, I'M, I'M STILL ON THERE.
WHAT? WHAT I WAS GONNA DO IS GO THROUGH THE REPORT AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH
I THOUGHT YOU WERE MOVING IN OUTTA NINE ALREADY.
UM, YEAH, BACK TO THAT, WE, THERE WAS DISCUSSION, UH, WITH A GROUP OF BRINGING A WIFI, UH, INTO THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND THE ANNEX.
UM, THERE WAS AN INTEREST BY THE BAR ASSOCIATION, I BELIEVE JUDGE, UM, TO BRING ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC, MORE SPECIFICALLY TO THE ATTORNEYS.
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SO, UM, AS THEY COME INTO THE COURTHOUSE AND MOVE FROM, YOU KNOW, COURTROOM TO COURTROOM, THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.SO THEY CAN DO THE RESEARCH AND ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, THINGS THEY WANT TO DO.
UM, ANY COST WOULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF LAW LIBRARY FUNDS.
AND DURING THE DISCUSSION, WE PRESENT IT SOME OF THE WAYS THAT OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES DO THIS.
AND TYPICALLY THERE ARE TWO WAYS.
WE EITHER HAVE A DISCLAIMER OF SOME SORT THAT WHEN THE PERSON OPENS THEIR LAPTOP OR THEIR WIRELESS DEVICE, THEY WOULD BE PROMPTED FOR SOMETHING TO READ THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO SOME SORT OF A POLICY OR, YOU KNOW, SOME STANDARDS OR SOMETHING WE HAVE IN PLACE.
AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION WAS WHETHER OR NOT TO FILTER IT.
AND BY FILTER WHAT I MEAN WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT TO, UH, FILTER THE OBJECTS, GAMBLING, CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SOME CITIES DON'T, SOME CITIES DO.
IT'S KIND OF ALL OVER THE BOARD.
BUT MOST LARGER CITIES FILTER, UM, AND HAVE A DISCLAIMER.
UM, WE LOOK AT SOME EXAMPLES FROM VARIOUS COUNTIES.
WE LOOKED AT BEAR COUNTY, UM, AT SOME OF THE LARGER COUNTIES, UM, COUPLE CITIES.
UM, I WAS AT IRVING POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS PAST WEEK AND SURPRISINGLY THEIR TRAINING CENTER HAD NO FILTER AND ALL, NOTHING AT ALL OF THIS.
BUT I THINK THE CONSENSUS AMONG ALL THE FOLKS WAS TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT, BUT SHOULD FILL THEIR HAND TO HAVE A, SO THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION.
AND THE LAST, UM, THING, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED AND DISCUSSED AND DISCUSSED AND DISCUSSED IS OUR CELL PHONE POLICY.
A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF INPUT INTO THIS.
UM, FOLKS WHO WERE ON THE COMMITTEE, A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE NOT CHIEF RICHMOND FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAD A LOT OF GOOD INSIGHT AND, AND GOOD THINGS TO ADD THAT WOULD, UH, THAT A LOT OF US FOLKS DIDN'T REALLY LOOK AT.
BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE COME THIS FAR, THERE HAS BEEN YET A FURTHER, SOME FURTHER ENLIGHTENMENT WHERE WE WERE ARE GOING TO, UM, MAKE ANOTHER CHANGE.
UM, JACK SEBASTIAN, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE CONTRACTS AND THE FINANCIAL SIDE HAS, UH, LOOKED AT A FEW THINGS AND AS OF THIS MORNING, HE WANTS TO, UH, MAKE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS.
SO IF WE COULD, WE'D LIKE TO TABLE IT AND PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA, HOPEFULLY.
SO THAT'S, UH, PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE DISCUSSED.
AND, AND OUT OF THAT, THE ONLY REAL ACTION ITEM WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE, THE WIFI.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR GEORGE ON THE ITEM AGENDA? ITEM SIX, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE WIFI, I KNOW YOU GUYS, UH, I GET YOUR EMAILS UPDATES ON THE CELL PHONE POLICY.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S REALLY WORKED HARD ON DOING THAT.
SO, UH, AND WE'RE ALREADY BEGINNING TO SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S CLARK COUNTY.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS FROM GEORGE.
IT MAY BE FOR JUDGE WILLIAMS AS WELL, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON IMPLEMENTING A PUBLIC WIFI FOR COUNTY PAID FOR BY THE LAW LIBRARY FUNDS.
SOMEBODY ACCUSED ME ON THIS COMMITTEE OF ASKING WHERE THE MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM AFTER, AFTER THIS FIRST YEAR OR TWO.
AND I BELIEVE WE WERE ASSURED THAT THE LAW, LAW LIBRARY IS GOING TO BE FUNDED ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THIS OR WAY OUT IN THE FUTURE.
SO IF WE DO THIS TODAY AND THE MONEY GOES AWAY, WE DON'T HAVE COMPANY MONEY NEXT YEAR OR WHATEVER.
IT'S GONNA BE CONTINUED TO BE FUNDED BY THE LAW LIBRARY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY? HE EXPLAINED IT DURING HIS, UH, REPORT, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE A, AND ERIC IS THE ONE THAT INITIATED THIS, I BELIEVE AND CAME TO ME AND, AND SENT A GOOD INFORMATION.
BUT IT WILL BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE COUNTY LIBRARY, UH, OR LAW LIBRARY FUND.
AND GEORGE, I THINK JOHN, YOU LOOKED IT OVER, I THINK AS WELL.
AND, UH, THERE IT IS PERMISSIBLE USE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT USE NOT ONLY FOR OUR, UH, FOR THE ATTORNEYS THAT WILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT, BUT ALSO FOR THE, FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
IT WOULD BE OF USE IF YOU PULL UP IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE.
NOW, IS IT GOING TO REACH OUT INTO THE UH, YARD? IT PROBABLY WILL, YES.
AND THE FILTERING PART OF IT, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU NEED A PART OF THIS MOTION? UH, WELL WE, THE COMMITTEE AS WE DISCUSSED IT, UH, WE, OUR CONSENSUS THERE WAS TO FILTER IT IN TO DISPLAY TO DO BOTH.
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OKAY.AS PART OF THE, JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS.
ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OF GEORGE? WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF THE FUNDS THAT BEEN COMING OUT OF LAW LIBRARY? 18 69, 23 PROBABLY WE'RE GONNA BE DOING TESTING AND MAYBE MORE OR LESS WE'RE GONNA USE OUR EXISTING, UH, COUNTYWIDE.
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH CISCO? UH, ALL OUR HARDWARE IS CISCO.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUILD A VIRTUAL LOCAL PLAYER NETWORK FOR TO UH, PASS THAT DATA THROUGH THE COUNTY AND TO THE COURTHOUSE, UH, COURTROOMS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO, UM, USE A CISCO PURCHASE, A CISCO POWER OVER ETHERNET SWITCH.
AND YOU USE CISCO WIRELESS ACCESS POINTS TO GET IT DONE.
THE RECURRING COST WOULD BE JUDGE WILLIAMS' OFFERED TO UM, UM, PROVIDE ANOTHER A DSL WITH A DOWNSTREAM SIX MEG.
WHICH WOULD, UH, WHAT'S THE RECURRING COST IS WHEN YOU HAVE AT JP ONE? UH, WELL I USE JP ONE.
I BELIEVE MY QUOTES FROM A PHONE COMPANY WERE ABOUT 60 A MONTH.
THE QUESTIONS NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO SECOND.
HAVE A MOTION BY DEAR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MANNING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, GEORGE IS RECOMMENDED THAT WE TABLE THAT UNTIL THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE OTHER PART THAT HAS COME UP, UH, ON THE CELL PHONE POLICY UNTIL APRIL THE 11TH.
AND, UH, UH, SO HAVE A MOTION MR. CLARK.
MR. JACKSON, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM SIX? ARE YOU GONNA JUST JUST GO DO A PRESENTATION ON HIS REPORT OR DO YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AND ADD STEVE TO THE COMMITTEE? WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE IT ON AS AN ACTION ITEM.
I GUESS WE CAN ACCEPT IT WITH A, UH, WITH, WITH THE ADDITION OF STEVE TO THE COMMITTEE.
DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? YOU THINK? BUT YOUR CALL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT JUST TO MAKE IT FORMAL.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE IT ON THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S UH, I THINK WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
SO IF ANYBODY WANT MOVE IT, WE APPROVE THE COURT AS WELL AS THE ADDITION.
WE COMMISSIONER JACKSON AND SECOND COMMISSIONER SAY AYE.
YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM, UH, JEFF IN A MINUTE.
HE'S ALREADY RECEIVED FIRST FIVE EXPLANATION.
THREE OF THESE WE WE'LL GET YOU ORDER.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS NINE, ACCEPTING THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S MONTH REPORT FOR FEBRUARY.
AND I THINK OUR UH, ABLE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR IS OUT OF TOWN TODAY.
AND SO HE ASKED, UH, HIS, HIS ABLE ASSISTANT, HIS ABLE ASSISTANT COME FORWARD AND GIVE US A COPY UPDATE OF THE, UH, TAX REPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US.
HAVE COPIES REPORT? YEAH, GOOD MORNING.
I'M JUST HERE TO PRESENT AT THIS TIME.
UM, THE KAMAN COUNTY COLLECTIONS TO THIS POINT, TO THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE AT 90%, WHICH IS ACTUALLY 1% MORE THAN WE WERE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
WE ARE ALSO AT 90% COLLECTIONS THUS FAR.
AND IT'S ALSO 1% MORE THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
SO AT THIS POINT IN THE GENERAL FUND WE COLLECTED 26.7 MILLION ROAD AND BRIDGE 2.5 MILLION.
AND YOU WILL SEE A DIFFERENCE IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FROM THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WHENEVER THE TAX RATE SET, LESS OF IT WENT INTO ROAD BRIDGE BORDER WENT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO IF YOU LOOK LAST YEAR'S ROLE AS COMPARED TO THIS YEAR'S ROLE, YOU'LL SAY THAT AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT, ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS MILLION FROM ROAD BRIDGE TO GENERAL FUNDS.
SO IT SHOWS THAT, AND ACTUALLY NOW REMEMBER THIS IS THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY.
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REALLY TAX COLLECTIONS HAVE HELD UP VERY, VERY WELL.AND I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE WERE AROUND 97%.
AT THE END, AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE WERE RIGHT AT 97% COLLECTION RATES.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY UH, QUESTIONS? I ACCEPTED WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT OUR TREASURER HAS, UH, HIS REPORT MARKED JOHN AND FOR FEBRUARY, 2011, WELL INSTRUC THE BAD NEWS.
UH, THIS AM THEN, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING MONTHS
BUT UH, FOR THE FIRST FIVE MONTHS OF A YEAR OUR GENERAL FUND RECEIVED, WE HAVE ABOUT 600,000 FROM LAST YEAR AND ESPECIALLY DOWN BY QUARTER BILLION.
STILL ABOUT THREE 50,000 NET WHAT WE WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD MARCH.
IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT CATCH UP AT END OF MARCH.
WE GOT, WE ALL GONNA MOVE OUR MONEY BACK FROM TECH POOL, WHICH IS EARNING LY NOTHING TO NATIONAL BANK THIS WEEK.
WELL, WE GOTTA REMEMBER THAT 90% OF OUR TAX MONEY NEED HEAVY COLLECTIONS ARE IN THAT WILL CONTINUE TO COLLECTION.
PROBABLY IT WILL DECLINE EACH MONTH.
BUT I MEAN THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE, LIKE I SAID, I THINK MARCH WOULD BE PRETTY GOOD.
UH, A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THERE I THINK.
ANY QUESTIONS OF GIANTS? OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OR TO ACCEPT.
JERRY MADE THE MOTION AND, UH, RAISED SECOND THE MOTION ALL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS GET YOU WITH, WITH COURT DEPARTMENT.
THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR CRIMINAL CASE.
YEAH, DISCUSSION
AND THEY'LL ALSO HAVE LINKS ABOUT SUMMARY ABOUT OUR, OUR PROJECT OR YOU KNOW, OUR APPLICATION.
AND ALSO THEY'LL LINK IT BACK TO COMAN COUNTY.
SO IT'S REAL GOOD PRESS FOR COMAN COUNTY.
UM, THEY WILL COVER MOST OF THE COST FOR THE CONFERENCE AND I'VE WORKED THROUGH THE DETAILS WITH
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HOW ON MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS, IS, UH, CONNECTED OR WE'LL PAY FROM MY TRAVEL EXPENSES AND THEN THEY'LL REIMBURSE US.ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? NO, DON'T ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, JUDGE WILLIAMS, ERIC WILLIAMS IS HERE TO DISCUSS AND ASK, UH, TALK ABOUT THE AUTHORIZING THE USE OF THE JP TECHNOLOGY FUND FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR JUSTICES OF THE PEACE AND CONSTABLE MOBILE PHONES AND MOBILE UH, COMPUTING EXPENSES.
ERIC, WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK IN THIS REGARD.
JUDGE WOODS COMMISSIONERS, UM, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, EACH JP COURT HAS ITS OWN TECHNOLOGY FUND, WHICH ACTUALLY COMES FROM A PORTION OF THE COURT COSTS FROM EACH OF THE CITATIONS PEOPLE PAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL I TOOK OFFICE.
UM, THE USE OF THAT FUND IS BASICALLY TO PURCHASE AND MAINTAIN TECHNOLOGICAL ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE COURTS, WHICH KIND OF MAKES SENSE.
UM, SO I'M ASKING FOR A COUPLE THINGS AND THEN I THINK I ONE ITEM THAT PROBABLY NEEDS SOME MORE DISCUSSION.
UM, SPECIFICALLY I THINK THAT THAT FUND CAN BE USED TO PAY FOR EACH OF THE JPS UH, MOBILE PHONES, MOBILE DEVICES.
I MEAN SOME OF US USE SMART PHONES THAT HAVE ALL KINDS OF CAPABILITIES.
UM, I'VE ALSO GOT A WIRELESS ACCESS CARD THAT HAS SOME OTHER CAPABILITY.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S CLEARLY WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THAT PARTICULAR STATUTE.
AND THAT WAY THE GENERAL FUND, THERE'S NOT EVEN ANY REIMBURSEMENT ISSUE.
WE USE MONEY OUT OF THE TECH FUND FOR THAT.
UM, THE, UH, THE SECOND PART OF THAT, ON THE CONSTABLES, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFUSING BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT DUTIES.
SO THEY ARE DOING THINGS FOR THE COURT WHEN THEY'RE DOING EVICTIONS AND SERVING PROCESS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT DUTIES.
SO AS A SEPARATE ISSUE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE COURT WANTS TO TAKE THAT UP, BUT WHAT I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING IS MAXIMIZING THE USE OF SOME OF THESE OTHER LITTLE FUNDS.
LIKE WE'VE KIND OF DONE WITH THE LAW LIBRARY FUND OVER TIME AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE OUT THE, UH, RESEARCH LINE ITEMS FROM ALL THE, THE JUDGES OVER THERE.
'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T NEED THAT IN THEIR BUDGET BECAUSE THE ALL PAYING FOR ALL OF THAT.
SO THIS IS KIND OF ANOTHER LITTLE STEP.
IT'S NOT A BIG STEP, BUT IT'S ANOTHER LITTLE STEP IN MAKING SURE THAT, THAT WE USE ALL THOSE THINGS THE WAY THEY'RE INTENDED TO.
AND I BELIEVE, UH, JOHN, YOU RESEARCHED THIS AND UH, WELL, I, UH, THE, THE JUSTICE IS CORRECT.
I THINK CLEARLY IT'S A TECHNOLOGICAL ENHANCEMENT.
IT'S, UH, AND, AND IN FACT PROBABLY MORE COMPUTER STUFF THAT'S SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED FOR BY STATUTE COULD COME BEFORE THE COURT AND ASKED FOR AND GET AUTHORIZATIONS TO DO THAT.
AND I BELIEVE YOU FELT LIKE THE CONSTABLES WOULD ALSO FALL UNDER.
UM, I, AND PERHAPS I CLARIFY WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE SEEKING FOR THE CONSTABLES? UH, I THINK WHAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IS SEE IF, IF THE TECHNOLOGY FUND COULD ALSO PAY FOR THE CONSTABLE'S MOBILE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE OF THEIR INTERACTION WITH THE JPS.
AND I THINK THE, THE QUESTION FOR THE COURT, 'CAUSE THE COURT IS THE ONE THAT AUTHORIZES THE USE OF THIS FUNDS.
I THINK THE QUESTION FOR THE COURT IS WHETHER THAT'S A TECHNOLOGICAL ENHANCEMENT FOR THE JP COURTS OR WHETHER IT'S BOTH THAT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY, WHICH MAY JUST END UP, MEANING IT NEEDS TO BE SPLIT AND THAT'S WHEN IT GETS A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO FIGURE OUT.
I MEAN I I THINK CLEARLY AS JP COURT HUNDRED PERCENT COULD BE ATTRIBUTABLE THIS TECHNOLOGICAL ENHANCEMENT FOR THE COURT AND ONLY, UH, AG DECISION I SAW THAT ADDRESSED THE JUSTICE COURT TECHNOLOGY, IT LEFT IT AS AS FACT QUESTION COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF AMOUNT COULD BE DONE CONSTABLE TRAINING.
AND SO, UH, IF, IF THERE'S A REPRESENTATION OF PERHAPS 50% OF OF THE WORK THAT CONSTABLE WOULD BE ARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO SUPPORTING THE JP COURT,
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I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? YOU MAY WANT HEAR FROM SOME OF THE CONSTABLES.
I LIKE THANK ERIC FOR, AGAIN, LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE OTHER FUNDS TRYING TO DO SOME THINGS WITH, AND I HAD A QUESTION ONE TIME.
UH, COULD WE NOT USE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUNDS FROM CONSTABLE'S CELL PHONES? BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT DOING COURTHOUSE VISITS, THEY'RE DOING SECURITY FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
AND SO COULD THAT NOT BE A LEGITIMATE EXPENSE TO PAY FOR? MAYBE PART OF IT COMES OUTTA TECHNOLOGY.
MAYBE PART OF IT COMES OUTTA SECURITY.
THERE'S ALSO A SEPARATE SUB COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUND.
SO THERE'S A COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUND AND THEN THERE'S A SUB COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUND.
UM, AND I HAVEN'T, I DIDN'T BRING ALL THOSE THINGS WITH ME.
I THINK THOSE STATUTES ARE MORE RELATED TO THE ACTUAL ITEMS, THE SCANNERS, PHYSICAL THINGS, PAYING PERHAPS SOME PERSONNEL NEEDS, WHICH I KNOW THEY'VE MAXIMIZED HERE, COURTHOUSE HERE.
BUT I HAVEN'T TAKEN ANY, I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT IT FOR THE SELF.
I KNOW THAT THE JUDGE WILLIAMS IS CORRECT THAT THE, THE SHERIFF HAS COME UP BEFORE YOU AND IDENTIFIED SEVERAL EMPLOYEES WHO ARE FULLTIME COURTHOUSE SECURITY AND LOOK AT COURTHOUSE, APPROVE THE TECHNOLOGY PLAN FOR, HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
THESE FUNDS YOU COULDN'T USE THEM FOR.
UH, IF WE, UH, IF WE HAD A DEDICATED PERSON THAT WAS THERE SOME PERIOD OF TIME IN A MONTH, FOUR HOURS A MONTH, ONE DAY A MONTH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IT COULD BE USED FOR THAT.
IF IT WAS IN SAY, TRAINING THE EMPLOYEES HAD TO USE A PARTICULAR SOFTWARE.
BUT TYPICALLY, WELL ACTUALLY I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE IS WHEN WE HAVE A TRAINING CONFERENCE THAT INVOLVES THE JP COURTS AND CLERKS, IF THERE'S ANY COST INVOLVED IN THAT.
AND CERTAINLY I THINK THAT NEEDS TO, TO COME OUT OF THOSE, THOSE TECHNOLOGY FUNDS LIKE WITH THE ODYSSEY PEOPLE OR WITH ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT I THINK KIND OF WHAT I'M REFERRING TO, IF, IF YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE AND NEED TO DO ANOTHER JOB, INSTEAD OF HIRING SOMEONE FOR THEIR JOB, MAKE SOMETHING THEIR SALARY FIVE A YEAR OR WHATEVER, KEEP THEM HAVE TO PAY, UH, RETIREMENT, HIRE ANOTHER
I, THERE'S A, AND IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY ON THE AGENDA, SO I DON'T WANNA GET TOO FAR INTO IT 'CAUSE I DO WANT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA LATER,
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO GET THERE AND IT'S CALLED A JUVENILE CASE MANAGER FUND.
UH, WE'RE GONNA, THE JPS ARE MEETING MONTHLY NOW AND WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND ASK THAT UH, THE COURT COST STRUCTURE BE CHANGED WITH ANOTHER STATUTE THAT INCLUDES WHAT'S CALLED A JUVENILE CASE MANAGER FEE.
AND WHEN THAT FUND BUILDS UP OVER TIME, THEN THAT CAN BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON SOME OF THE JUVENILE CASES.
'CAUSE IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS IN THAT STATUTE THAT CAN BE USED FOR THAT TO USE TECHNOLOGY FUNDS TO PAY AN EXISTING EMPLOYEE WITH PROBABLY BE A STRETCH OR LESS.
THAT PERSON WAS JUST DOING TECHNOLOGY RELATED ACTIVITIES.
AND I BELIEVE, JUST AS A CLARIFICATION, I BELIEVE THAT WITH THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE ON THE CELL PHONE POLICY, THIS WILL REQUIRE SOME KIND OF EXEMPTION FROM THAT.
THAT'S JUST A SIDE NOTE JAR, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? I JUST WANTED TO SAY HISTORICALLY WHAT WE'VE USED THAT FUND FOR WOULD BE FOR SECURITY, THE CAMERA SYSTEMS IN THE SUB COURT, NEW COURTHOUSE, UM, ACCESS CONTROL AND PRECINCT THREE.
AND WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IN CASE WE DO NEED TO EITHER ENHANCE OR PREPARE OR DEAL WITH THAT, WE JUST WANNA BE SURE WE HAVE SOME FUNDS, YOU KNOW, IN THAT REGARD.
LET ME, I ASK HOW TO PUT TOGETHER SOME NUMBERS FOR US.
AND HE SENT THESE TO ME, UH, SOME TO ME TWICE.
I LOST THE FIRST ONES, BUT FOUND IT BACK AS OF, UH, THE END OF, I GUESS
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FEBRUARY.UH, IT, IT, IT WAS CURRENT THAT I SENT IT TO IN THE MIDDLE OF MARCH.
SO, UH, IN JP ONE WE HAD THESE BALANCES OF APRIL WE HAD 42,140 IN JP ONE IN THEIR TECHNOLOGY, THIS IS TECHNOLOGY ONLY.
AND IN JP FOUR WE HAD 29,000 906 9.
AND THEN IN A NOTE TO THAT ASSET THAT THEY'RE AVERAGING, DEPENDING ON WHAT PRECINCT IS ABOUT HUNDRED 50 TO 12 PER MONTH IN REVENUES.
SO THEY, THEY ARE CONTINUING TO ADD TO THIS.
NOW AS WE START PAYING FOR ADDITIONAL CELL PHONES AND OTHER SERVICES OUT OF THAT, WE'LL BE TAKING MONEY FROM IT.
BUT IT APPEARS THAT THEY'VE BUILT UP A PRETTY GOOD FUND BALANCE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE AS MUCH PRESSURE OFF THE GENERAL FUND AS WE CAN.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF DOING THAT.
MEAN IT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT, BUT IT'S AN AMOUNT THAT CAN, UH, CAN HELP OUR GENERAL FUND EARLIER.
WE APPROVE IT FOR THE, UH, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND HOLD OFF ON THE CONSTABLES UNTIL WE GET SOME MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER THAT'S GONNA BE ALLOWABLE.
THAT'D BE, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING YOU SAID THAT YOU THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO DO WORK ON BESIDES CONSTABLE? I THINK I'VE COVERED ALL THREE OF THOSE ACTUALLY.
THIS GETS US TO THIS POINT AND WE WOULD MAKE THIS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
I DON'T GUESS WE COULD MAKE IT RETROACTIVE.
WELL, MY QUESTION WAS, COULD WE MAKE THIS RETROACTIVE TO THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET YEAR OR WOULD WE BE SAFER JUST, UH, DOING IT, UH, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD? I, I, I THINK WE WOULD BE, UM, THE RIGHT THING FROM, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.
JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR EVERY PENNY SO I UNDERSTAND, UH, IT'D PROBABLY BE CLEARER TO DO IT THIS WAY.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR IN A SECTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DID YOU ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE.
AS YOU GO THROUGH OTHER AREAS, YOU AND THE OTHER JPS, Y'ALL FIND ANY OTHER LITTLE AREAS OUT THERE, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A VERY LEGITIMATE EXPENDITURE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING EMPLOYMENT TO BOARD MEMBERS TO EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT, UH, NUMBER ONE.
STEVE, UH, HUEY HAS STEVE, YOU WANNA COME FORWARD JUST FOR A MOMENT? AND, UH, STEVE HAS BEEN MEETING WITH SOME OF THE ESD DISTRICTS AS WE HAD ASKED HIM TO DO.
AND THIS IS A RESULT, I BELIEVE, OF ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HAD.
AND, UH, WE HAVE FIVE APPOINTMENTS.
YOU WANNA TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THESE? UH, I MET WITH DISTRICT, UH, ONE AT THEIR MEETING, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS.
UH, HOWEVER, UH, THEY WERE THINKING THAT THEY NEEDED TO APPROVE THEIR BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE SUBMITTING THEM.
I DID EXPLAIN TO 'EM THAT COMMISSIONER COURT ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER THE APPOINTMENT, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY VOTE TO APPOINT EACH OTHER.
SO, UH, THEY GAVE ME THIS LIST OF NAMES.
UH, THAT DISTRICT IS ACTUALLY CHANGING OVER MOST OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS.
I THINK GEORGE MAYFIELD AND STEVE ROBERTSON ARE THE ONLY TWO RETURNING.
AND, UH, THEY HAVE ALREADY ELECTED DON BECKER AS THEIR PRESIDENT PENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE APPOINTMENTS.
AND THE FIRST THREE, BECAUSE ALL, ALL OF THEIR TERMS HAVE EXPIRED, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KIND OF START ANEW WITH IT.
SO THREE OF 'EM ARE FOR TWO YEARS.
UH, DON BECKER, DAVID CLARK, AND JEAN MCKINNEY.
THEIR TERMS WILL EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2012.
GEORGE MAYFIELD AND STEVE ROBERTSON WILL, THEIR TERM WILL EXPIRE ON 1231 OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN, THEN WE'LL GET THAT, UH, ROTATION.
THEY'LL ALL BE TWO YEARS AFTER THIS YEAR.
SO GET 'EM BACK ON, BACK ON TRACK AND, UH, GET THEM UP AND RUNNING.
UH, DID EXPLAIN ALL THE OTHER POINTS
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THAT, UH, WERE DEFICIENT AND THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING THOSE, UH, IT AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN.I THINK GEORGE AND STEVE WOULD BOTH LIKE TO BE, UH, OFF OF THAT BOARD BY NOW.
THEY'VE BEEN ON THERE SINCE IT STARTED BACK.
UH, THEY SAID THAT, UH, AS SOON AS THEY CAN FIND REPLACEMENTS, THEY WILL BE COMING OFF.
SO MOST LIKELY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL APPOINT SOMEBODY TO FILL THEIR UNEXPIRED TERM.
MR. JACKSON, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
APPRECIATE YOUR WORK GETTING EVERYBODY HELPING EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND HELP THEM GET THERE.
DO Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK OR YOU WANT JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD? UH, ANYBODY GOT ANY? I'M GOOD.
NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 14 TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON CONTRACT WITH LINE BARER, GOGGIN, BLAIR, AND SAMPSON.
UH, DATED JUNE THE 10TH, 2005.
THIS IS NOT OUR DELINQUENT TAX CONTRACT WITH THAT GROUP, BUT IT'S FINES AND FEES.
UH, THAT IS NOW, UH, UP TO THE GOING PARTIALLY.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING ON BOARD YET, BUT RAY HAD ASKED THAT WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND I BELIEVE THERE THE CONTRACT EXPIRES, UH, VERY SOON, JEFF, UH, FOURTH, THIRD OR 4TH OF APRIL.
AND SO, UH, UH, WE'D ASK JEFF TO BE HERE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, UH, TALK ABOUT THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THAT GROUP.
AND AS PART OF THAT, YOU MIGHT JUST KIND OF BRING US UP TO DATE ON WHERE WE'RE ON THE FINE FEES.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKING, JUDGE WILLIAMS AND I WERE OUT IN THE HALL TALKING ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE.
UH, WE, WE GOT, UH, FIRST DOWN TRANSFER GEORGE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS AGO.
IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? AND WE, UH, WORKED ON THAT AND GOT THE MAILING OUT, UH, FOR THREE OF THE FOUR PRECINCTS ON THE 10TH OF MARCH.
I THINK I TOLD COMMISSIONER CLARK A DISCUSSION LAST WEEK.
IT WAS THE NINTH, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE 10TH.
UH, WE HAD SOME, UH, I THINK SOME PROGRAMMING ISSUES OR SOME INTERNAL ISSUES, UH, WITH REGARD TO, TO, UH, PRECINCT TWO.
BUT THOSE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED AND I BELIEVE OUR MEETING HAVE GONE OUT ON THAT.
AND SO WE'RE, WE, EVERYBODY NOW HAS MAILING OUT AND EVERYBODY, UH, SHOULD BE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THIS REPORT THAT, THAT, UH, GEORGIA'S DEPARTMENT IS PREPARED.
UH, KIND OF DETAILS WHERE WE ARE WITH REGARD TO THESE COLLECTIONS.
UH, JP TWO, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, JP ONE IS ABOUT $1,700 SO FAR.
JP TWO, THE ONE WHERE WE HAD THE, A LITTLE BIT OF A PROGRAMMING ISSUES IS ONLY $200 THAT THOSE MAINLY JUST WENT OUT LAST WEEK.
SO THAT SHOULD PICK UP IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
THE, THE STAR RIGHT NOW IS PRECINCT THREE.
UH, THEY COLLECTED SO MUCH MONEY.
I CAN'T FIND THE TOTAL IN $16,000
WE, WE, MR. MANNING 60 WOULD BE REALLY GOOD.
AND THEN, UH, PRECINCT FOUR COLLECTED $7,600.
SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE ON THE WAY.
WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE GETTING GOING.
UH, I WAS TOLD ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUDGE WILLIAMS AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT AT THE HALL JUST A MINUTE AGO IS WE, AND, AND GEORGE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER THIS MORNING.
I'M TRYING TO, TO SCHEDULE, SO FAR THE ONLY DATA WE'VE BEEN GIVEN GEORGETOWN, I KNOW I'M GONNA SAY THIS WRONG, BUT 2008, 2009.
IS THAT CORRECT? I WAS TALKING TO JUDGE WILLIAMS. MY IDEA IS I, I WOULD LIKE FOR US MAYBE JUST TO DUMP US THE INFORMATION AND, AND GET GOING ON ALL OF IT PRETTY QUICKLY.
I JUST VOLUNTEERED JUDGE WILLIAMS IF ANYBODY REALLY CALLS COMPLAINTS.
'CAUSE WE SENT 'EM SOMETHING THAT THEY PAID ON.
UH, I, I'LL PERSONALLY SEND 'EM POLICY LETTER AND TELL 'EM WE'RE SORRY THAT THE MIX UP.
BUT, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS I, I, I KNOW THAT THIS COURT WANTS TO DO IS GET THESE COLLECTIONS UP AND MOVING QUICKLY, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
I'VE SUGGESTED THAT TO JUDGE WILLIAMS. I'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT WITH THE OTHER THREE DPS, NOR HAVE I NOT TALKED ABOUT TO GEORGE.
BUT, BUT WE NEED TO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE TRY TO AT LEAST THINK ABOUT DOING THAT.
I KNOW THAT, UH, GEORGE IS PLANNING A MEETING WITH THE JPS AND, AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, UH, FOR LATER THURSDAY OR FRIDAY THIS WEEK.
UH, HE WANTS ME TO COME BACK AND BE IN A MEETING WITH THEM NEXT WEEK AFTER THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE TO GET TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY, GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS, SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS WITH EACH OTHER.
UM, I THINK WE, WE WE'RE TRYING TO, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY HAPPENED THIS YEAR THAT I REALLY APPRECIATED IS WE'VE GOT, UH, REALLY GOOD LINES OF COMMUNICATION GOING AND TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
UH, WE'RE FACILITATING ALL THAT.
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SPOKEN LOT ENOUGH IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.DO WE, UH, DO WE YET HAVE, I DUNNO, THE CHARGE STILL IN HERE? YES, SIR.
DO WE STILL HAVE, OR ARE WE FAR ENOUGH ALONG TO KNOW WHAT THE EXACT OUTSTANDING TOTAL IS? WELL, I THINK WHAT, UH, JEFF MENTIONED EARLIER, IF WE, UM, BILL PUNCH EVERY CASE, WE CLEAN THEM UP, THEN WE JUST SUBMIT EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOLKS WHO PAID ALREADY.
SO BASED ON THAT, WE REALLY DON'T.
BUT IF WE, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD AND WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA WORK, JUST GIVE, GET, HAVE ALL, AND THEN FROM 2008 BACK AND THERE'S AN ISSUE.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PAID, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, SEND ME APOLOGY LETTER AND DO WHAT WE CAN DO.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE A SENSE, YES, WE DO HAVE A SENSE WITH WHAT THE DOLLARS ARE, BUT NOT IN AN EXACT FIGURE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CASES WHERE CASES WERE ADJUDICATED AND FINES WERE COLLECTED AND THINGS HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF THE CASE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'LL RUN INTO THE ISSUE.
BUT SO FAR WE, YOU KNOW, I'VE NOT HEARD, WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD, HAS NOTHING COME YET.
WHAT IS THE AMOUNT FOR NINE 10 2008? THE DOLLAR ABOUT, FOR NINE 10, WE HAVE SUBMITTED THOSE ARE, THAT'S THE RECEIPT JOURNALS SHOWING THE ACTUAL DOLLARS COLLECTED.
OH, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF FINES, INFORMATION WE'VE SENT DOWN THERE THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD COLLECT ON.
WHAT'S THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT NOW THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE LAST MEETING? BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU AGAIN, THAT WHAT WE ALL GOT TOGETHER, WE, WE'LL GET YOU THAT SPREADSHEET AGAIN.
THIS, THIS SHOWS WHAT WE COLLECTED.
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE POSSIBILITY IS? IF, IF WE, THAT WAS THE JUDGE'S QUESTION.
I BELIEVE WE SENT IN NINE IN 10.
IS THAT A $10 MILLION? WE'VE HEARD THREE.
I'VE HEARD EVERY HALF MILLION TO 15 MILLION.
SO WE'LL GET YOU, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING A MEETING FOR LATER ON THIS WEEK.
WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL EMAIL ALL THOSE WHO WILL ATTEND THE SPREADSHEET SHOWING YOU WHAT THE POTENTIAL REVENUE IS AND OUR RECEIPT BUREAU SO YOU HAVE IT WHEN WE, WHEN WE COME TOGETHER AND SEE ARE YOU OUT THERE GOING DOOR TO DOOR KNOCKING ON THESE THINGS, TRYING
WELL, AND THE BUNCH OF THEM, THE OTHER PART OF THIS, I MEAN, OUR JP COURTS AND OUR CONSTABLES, THEY HAVE DONE A OLD ONES GETTING OUT AND REALLY WORKING THESE THINGS.
AND PLUS THE LETTERS THAT HAVE GONE OUT, UH, ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE AS WELL.
BUT I MEAN, ALL OF OUR COURTS ARE WORKING HARD AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COURSE ARE REALLY GOING AFTER THIS.
AND I MEAN, AS WE JUST HEARD EARLIER FROM OUR AUDIT REPORT, WE, WE NEED THEM TO BE DOING THAT.
AND EVERYBODY HAS REALLY JUMPED IN AND IS WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER REALLY HAD ALL FOUR PEOPLE REALLY WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET THIS THING DONE.
WELL AS, AS, UH, JUDGE WILLIAMS SAID AT THE, THE JPS ARE MEETING MONTHLY, UH, IN FACT, I'M GOING TO BUY THEIR LUNCH SOMETIME NEXT MONTH.
THANK THEM FOR DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND I DON'T THE CONSTABLES, YOU GUYS, I KNOW Y'ALL TALK, I DON'T WHETHER Y'ALL HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS OR NOT, BUT, UH, TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON THEIR, THE WARRANTS.
I KNOW THEY'RE ALL HUSTLING THESE, UH, WARRANTS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
AND, UH, I'LL OFFER TO, YOU KNOW, BUY Y'ALL THE BIG BURGER AND COFFIN IF Y'ALL WON, COME OVER ONE DAY AND JUST DISCUSS WHERE WE ARE.
DIDN'T INCLUDE COMMISSIONER SAID CONST, BUT Y'ALL TAKE ALONG.
WE'D HAVE TO POST IT AS A MEETING, BE THE ONLY ONE.
I MEAN EVERYBODY IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, PULLING TOGETHER.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT TO SEE.
IT IS JUST THAT WE NEED, YOU KNOW, LETTERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALL, ALL OUT AND ABOUT AND WE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING RESULTS, BUT KIND OF FIGURE OUT CHECK.
THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB IN THE PAST, BUT ALL THE COURTS ARE WORKING HARD.
THE REASON WHY WE PUT THIS ON THERE, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS, UH, THE 60 DAY, UH, TERMINATION DATE COMES UP HERE THIS NEXT COUPLE WEEKS OR WHATEVER.
THIS WILL BE OUR LAST MEETING WE HAD BEFORE AND GETTING THIS REPORT THAT WE PULLED UP LAST WEEK.
I SAW WE HAD $218 IN PRECINCT TWO.
FIRST THING I, I'M CLEARLY FRUSTRATED IT'S TAKING SO LONG TO AS JEFF TOO.
I MEAN THIS CONTRACT BEEN AFFECTED SINCE 2005 AND PRECINCT TWO HAS COLLECTED $200.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHY I'VE BEEN PUSHING THIS THING A BIT.
UH, AND LOOKING AT THAT AND LET'S SAY THEY
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HAD THE GIRLS COME AND WORK ON HIS I STAYS WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE WAS OFF TO TRY TO GET SOME STUFF UP DATE.AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PRECINCT THREE COLLECTED 16 TIME, NOT THIS IS A COMPETITION, BUT WE GOING COLLECTED 200 BUCKS.
BOY, WHY? WELL DISCOVERED A FEW REASONS WHY I WASN'T HAPPENED WITH ANY OF THEM.
AND I, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESOLVED.
BUT I WANTED TO, MY MAIN REASON, UH, BE BESIDES THOSE ISSUES WAS LIKE I SAY, TO GET SOME MORE MONEY IN THERE TO HELP US ON OUR SHORTFALL.
BECAUSE ACTUALLY WE ALL THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THIS LAST YEAR.
AND WE COME A YEAR LATER, WE FIND OUT WE'RE NOT DOING IT.
AND SO WE'RE A YEAR BEHIND AND NOW WE'RE SIX MONTHS INTO THIS YEAR, WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING $200 COLLECT BILL.
MY POINT, WORK NOT HAPPY WITH THAT AT ALL BECAUSE I WAS PLANNING ON USING THAT MONEY TO SUPPLE THAT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, TO HAVE TWO LAW FIRMS AND TALKING WITH OTHER COUNTIES.
WELL THERE'S COMPETITION BETWEEN THE TWO LAW FIRMS. ONE DOES FINES AND FEES AND ONE DOES THEY DELIVER WITH TAXES.
THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP THEIR BUSINESS AND TRYING TO GET THEIR NEW GUYS' BUSINESS.
IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE THAN OVERRIDING AUTO PARTS IS BUILT A NEW STORE RIGHT HERE IN COMMON ACROSS FOUR PLUS THEY'RE BUILDING A BRAND NEW STORE 40 DRIVE ACROSS FROM AUTO ZONE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
WHEN I WAS IN BUSINESS, I WANTED TO BE RIGHT ACROSS FROM MY COMPETITION.
'CAUSE I ALWAYS CHARGED MONEY, BUT I WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE THAT I WAS DOING A BETTER JOB AND THAT I WAS WORTH MORE.
SO I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HAVE TWO FIRMS, ONE FOR FINES, ONE FOR DELINQUENT TAXES, AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB ON LEAVING TAXES.
I DON'T HAVE A BETTER PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I'M JUST THINKING THE COMPETITION PART WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTY.
IT'D BE GOOD FOR THEM, I THINK, BECAUSE IT'LL MAKE THEM A LITTLE MORE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
I WOULD'VE LIKE TO HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THREE WEEKS AGO, FOUR WEEKS AGO THAT OUR INFORMATION HADN'T BEEN TURNED IN YET.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED A YEAR AGO THAT WE WEREN'T EVEN DOING THIS.
BUT THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.
MY MY MAIN ISSUE IS THAT, UH, THAT WE GIVE THEM A LETTER THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA CONTINUE THE CONTRACT AND THAT GIVES US, WE HAVE TO HAVE SIX DAYS PRIOR TO THAT.
THEY STILL HAVE 90 DAYS AFTER THAT TO COLLECT THIS MONEY.
BEN, WE, WE WOULD JUST, THEY STILL, THE MONEY STILL BE COMING IN BECAUSE THEY'LL STILL BEING COLLECTING AND THEY'LL BE VERY AGGRESSIVE ON THAT FOR REASONS I SAID BEFORE BECAUSE THEY'LL, NUMBER ONE, THEY WANNA MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT AND THE FIRST STUFF THAT COMES IN IS THE LOW HANGING F EASIEST TO GET.
AND SO THEY WANT TO GET THAT BEFORE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A CHANCE TO GET IT.
AND THE MORE THEY GET, THE MORE WE GET.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR SOME COMPETITION.
ASK A QUESTION OF JACK, IS THIS SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO DO AN RF? UH, WE, YES, SIR.
AND I, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, AND I'M SURE SOME OF THE OTHERS I'VE HAD, UH, THERE ARE OTHER FIRMS THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN DOING OUR WORK AS LINEBERGER DOES NOT LOSE OUR CONTRACT.
UH, BUT WE'VE HAD THIS CONTRACT SINCE 2005 AND UH, IT IS, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON IT'S NEVER BEEN IMPLEMENTED UP UNTIL THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
AND UH, SO I DO THINK THAT IS A CONCERN.
AND UH, BUT UH, MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT CHANGING HORSES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREAM, SO TO SPEAK, IS I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT SLOWS DOWN THE COLLECTIONS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON NOW.
EVEN THOUGH INSTEAD OF APPROXIMATELY, WHAT, 20,000 HERE, 19 OR 20,000 SOMEWHERE.
UH, BUT I I, MY CONCERN IS, IS DO WE CHANGE NOW? DO WE GO OUT AND DO A, A PROPOSAL FOR A NEW FIRM? AND I'M SURE YOUR COMPANY WOULD, UH, CONTINUE TO, UH, TO SERVE AND WOULD PROBABLY, UH, APPLY.
I I JUST DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN THE MOMENTUM THAT WE'RE HAVING BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOW BEGINNING TO SEE A LITTLE MONEY COME IN.
WELL, I THINK THEY SHOULD GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS NOW THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING WORKING.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PROBLEM IS IN TWO? WHY DO YOU THINK THERE'S ONLY TWO 18? OUR, OUR STUFF WAS NOT POSTED UNTIL MARCH.
UH, THE PRECINCT THREE STUFF WAS POSTED, UH, FEBRUARY 16TH AND THE LETTER DIDN'T GO OUT UNTIL MIDDLE OF MARCH.
RIGHT, THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH.
AND IF YOU LOOK LIKE THING RIGHT THERE, THERE'S ALREADY COLLECTIONS BEING MADE IN FEBRUARY.
FOR PRECINCT THREE, PRECINCT FOUR.
THE, THE PRECINCT TWO, UH, POSTED WAS NOT DONE UNTIL MARCH THE 10TH.
BUT THAT WAS A TECHNICAL ISSUE SOMEWHERE, A TECHNICAL ISSUE ON OUR PART.
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JEFF AND I ARE SO TECHNICAL, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE IT'S AT.GEORGE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON YEAH, THE ISSUE THERE IS THE, YOUR FEE WASN'T ASSESSED ON THEIR THAT'S CORRECT.
WE HAD, WE HAD, YOU HAD TOT REWORK IT HERE THEN RESUBMIT IT TO US.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, WE RESUBMITTED IT.
EVERYBODY'S WORKING TO CLARIFY THAT AND TO CORRECT THIS.
I THINK IT'S, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, GOING BACK 17 YEARS, HOW LONG I'VE BEEN HERE AND WE HAD NEVER HAD JPS ALL TOGETHER ON THE SAME TEAM.
IN THE PAST THERE WERE JPS THAT FLAT OUT SAID WE'RE NOT DOING IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT TO DO WITH THE HISTORICAL ISSUES WE'VE HAD.
THAT'S A NEW, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT FOLKS, EVERYBODY'S TOGETHER.
WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT LIKE TECHNOLOGY AND LEADERSHIP OF THE JPS.
WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT EVER YEARS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK YOU, WE'VE GOT THIS CONTRACT SIGNED IN 2005 AND THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE HAS USED THEM, YOU KNOW, AS OUR COLLECTIONS FOR COUNTY COURT AT LONG BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT IT.
BUT IN 2005 WE WENT THROUGH THE CONVERSION TO ODYSSEY.
AND SO A LOT OF THINGS GOING THROUGH THAT CONVERSION, IT TAKES A WHILE TO GO THROUGH AND CLEAN UP THE 23 YEARS WORTH OF DATA THAT WE HAD.
BUT WE HAVE USED THEM, THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
AND TO SAY THAT NOTHING'S HAPPENED SINCE 2005 IS NOT QUITE CORRECT.
WELL, I DON'T THINK, WHAT I THINK ABOUT COMMISSIONER CLARK'S FAN IS THAT WE HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS A PROBLEM UP UNTIL LAST YEAR.
WE REALLY HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS A REAL PROBLEM WHEN ANYTHING CAME UP.
EVERYBODY SAID, WELL, THAT'S JUST TURNED OVER TO LINEBARGER.
AND THAT'S ALL WE KNEW ABOUT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TURNED OVER TO LINEBARGER, BUT THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME KIND OF PROBLEM ON LINE BARTER'S PART OR OUR PART OR SOMEBODY'S PART AND WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS ALL BEING TURNED OVER THERE AND WE WOULD TALK TO ALL THE, THE, UH, UH, JP COURTS AND THEY SEEMED TO BE GOING OFF IN EVERY DIRECTION ON THEIR OWN.
SO, UH, WELL THEY, THEY ALL COLLECTIVELY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD USE THE OMNI BASE PROGRAM IN AUSTIN AND DPS.
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN OMNI BASE BEGAN, IT WAS ONLY A FEW YEARS, NOW IT'S SIX YEARS.
WE SEND IT TO OMNI AND THAT'S IT.
WE DON'T TRY TO COLLECT IT LOCALLY, WE DON'T GIVE IT TO HIM.
HE DIDN'T GET THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW.
UH, AND I SUPPOSE I DON'T, DO YOU SEE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING TWO OUT THERE OR IS THAT A NO, THERE ARE MANY COUNTIES THAT DO THAT.
AS RAY SAID, THERE ARE MANY COUNTIES THAT HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE GROUP THAT COLLECTION DE TAX COLLECTION AND THEN ANOTHER GROUP THAT COLLECTS YOUR FINES AND FEES.
THERE ARE SOME BUT LIKE US THAT USE THE SAME FIRMS DO.
I WOULD HATE TO STOP ONE THOUGH RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS START.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I'VE SHARED THAT WITH SEVERAL OF YOU.
I'VE SHARED IT WITH JEFF, UH, ABOUT THAT.
UH, I MEAN, IT'S YOUR CALL AS AS A COURT OR IT'S OUR CALL.
I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE, AND I DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THE CASH FLOW EITHER.
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD THIS LONG TO GET IT GOING.
I DON'T WANNA DISTURB THAT CASH FLOW EITHER.
BUT I THINK JEFF WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU THAT IF HE WAS ANOTHER LAW FIRM, THEY WOULD SAY THERE'S GONNA BE NO DOWNTIME THEN YOU'VE GOT 60 DAYS TO, UH, FOR, FOR THIS, FOR THIS GROUP TO COLLECT THE MONEY.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME, IF WE GO FOR RFPS, I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW THAT DEPARTMENT WORK TIMEWISE.
I DON'T WANT TO STOP ONE STOP ONE DAY START UPDATE.
THE OTHER GUYS ALREADY GOTTA BE IN LINE.
SO WHEN IT DOES COME UP ON DAY ONE, HE'S READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
WOULD IT COST THE COUNTY ANYTHING TO GET ANOTHER FIRM? NO.
IT'S ALL BY, THEY ALL GET PAID THE SAME.
IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT A FEE THAT WE PAY A FEE THAT PEOPLE OWE THE FINE PAY.
AND UH, MY, MY QUESTION TO JACK ONCE AGAIN IS IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD ON AN RFP, UH, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT UP AND GOING AND YEAH, IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT A SIX WEEK PROCESS, PROBABLY OKAY TO ADVERTISE, GET THEM AT END AND, AND LOOK AT THE PROPOSALS ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.
THAT, THAT IS A, A WAY OF PUTTING EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE.
I MEAN, BOTTOM LINE IS THAT PUTS EVERYBODY'S, UH, PRODUCT ON THE TABLE FOR YOU AS FOR US AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO EVALUATE.
UH, THE MINUS IS, IS THAT WE'VE GOT A FIRM THAT IS NOW WORKING FOR US THAT EVEN THOUGH ALL OF US WISH IT HAD BEEN HANDLED IN A, IN A MORE PROMPT MANNER,
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I GUESS THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.IT IS GETTING TO HAPPEN NOW OVER THE LAST MONTH, REALLY.
UH, SO THAT'S THE ISSUE I THINK WE HAVE TO WEIGH IS, IS WHAT, WHAT DO WE WANNA DO, JUDGE, MAY I SPEAK? ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S WELL, UH, I KNOW I'VE, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, ABOUT HOW TO APPROACH THIS WITH THE COURT AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO, TO THINK THAT, THAT I BELIEVE WE'RE BLAMELESS IN ALL THIS 'CAUSE I, I'M SURE WE HAVE OUR SHERIFF TO GO ALONG.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD HATE FOR THE COURT TO DO IS IT'S COMMISSIONER CLARK SAID IT, JUDGE, YOU SAID IT IN TERMS OF SLOWING DOWN THE PROCESS.
WHILE, WHILE I WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU YOU'RE CORRECT, MR. CLARK, I WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT WE COULD BE ABLE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING PRETTY FAST.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT'S PROBABLY NOT TRUE.
UH, IT PROBABLY IS GONNA TAKE ANYWHERE FROM, FROM 60, EXCUSE ME, 30 TO 60 DAYS TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE PROGRAMMING THAT HAS TO BE DONE AND ALL THE LOOKING AT THE FILES.
ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS IS, AND AGAIN, I I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE BLAMING THIS AND ALL THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS WE'RE NOT EVEN FULLY UP AND RUNNING IT.
WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, WE HAVE BASICALLY FOR FIVE WEEKS HAD TWO YEARS WORTH OF DATA.
THEY'RE NOT EVEN THE CURRENT YEARS, IT'S OLD YEARS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS, I, I APPRECIATE JUDGE WILLIAMS BEFORE IS HALL.
HE SAID, YEAH, I JUST SOON GET IT OFF TO YOU AND WE'LL WORK IT AS IT COMES TO ME.
I I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO GET THE MOST MONEY INTO THE COURT THE FASTEST IS JUST TO HAVE, JUST TO DUMP THE DATA ON US AND WORK THE DATA.
WE'LL SEND OUT THE MAILING, START DOING PHONE CALLS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
BUT ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS I HAVE IS THAT I I, I NEVER SHY AWAY FROM BEING GRADED FOR WHAT WE DO.
NEVER SHY AWAY FROM, FROM WONDERING ARE WE AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH? ARE WE TOO AGGRESSIVE OR WHATEVER.
BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT AT THIS POINT, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT, WE REALLY CAN'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT OUR SUCCESS HAS BEEN BECAUSE WE WE'RE NOT EVEN FULLY IMPLEMENTED YET.
NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, I THINK IT'S, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO, TO MAYBE LOOK AT US A FEW MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, MAYBE TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR WHERE WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WORK THIS AND HAD A CHANCE TO, TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM FULLY.
UM, I I DON'T FEAR AN R-F-P-I-I, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT, THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HIRE ME AGAIN.
I I THINK YOU PROBABLY WOULD, BUT, UH, UH, THAT'S 'CAUSE I, I, IT'S 'CAUSE I'M CONFIDENT IN WHAT WE DO AND THAT WE DO IT WELL ENOUGH TO, TO MERIT THAT.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO, TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO KNOW THAT WE, THAT WE'VE GIVEN A GOOD SHOT AND THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE HAD IT HAD A CHANCE TO USE THAT DATA AND TO DO THE BEST WE CAN GET THE MONEY TO THE COUNTY.
UH, AS THIS COURT KNOWS, I, I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE COUNTY AND TAX UP A LONG TIME.
UH, UH, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE COUNTY, ABOUT WHETHER IT, UH, DELINQUENT TAXES OR OTHER THINGS.
UH, I KNOW WHAT Y'ALL ARE FACING IN TERMS OF YOUR BUDGET SHORTFALL.
IT BOTHERS ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE I KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE HERE.
SO WE REALLY DO WANT TO DO A GOOD JOB.
IT'S NOT, UH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT BSING YOU TELLING YOU THAT I REALLY DO.
SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE IN THIS, ARE STILL IN THIS ROOM AND, UH, THEY WERE HERE THIS MORNING AND I KNOW THAT, THAT, UH, BUDGET CON BUDGET PROBLEMS AND BUDGET CONCERNS HAVE CAUSED IMPERSONAL ISSUES AND RIGHT.
AND SO I, I REALLY AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS CONTRACT, ABOUT HOW IT GETS WORKED, ABOUT HOW IT GETS IMPLEMENTED, EVIDENCE DONE.
UH, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT I'M NOT, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS AND, AND HE KNOWS HOW LITTLE I KNOW ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED ABOUT THIS STUFF.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALL RELYING ON ON OTHER PEOPLE.
I, I'M THANKFUL THAT GEORGIA THAT IS HERE AND HE UNDERSTANDS THE ISSUES AND HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT WE NEED, THAT HELPS.
BUT, UH, I'VE HAD A, I'LL ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT.
AND, AND I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS RATHER THAN JUST CUTTING IT OFF RIGHT NOW AND DOING SOMETHING WITHIN SIX WEEKS, WE CUT THEM OFF.
IF WE DON'T RENEW THE CONTRACT, WE'VE ONLY GOT A FEW DAYS TO NOT RIGHT.
I GUESS WE'D GIVE 'EM NOTICE AND STILL RENEW THE CONTRACT IN 60 DAYS.
BUT IF WE DON'T GIVE 'EM THE NOTICE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPTIONS ABOUT GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
CAN I SPEAK TO THAT JUDGE? SURE.
UH, MY LAW FIRM USE THIS AS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT AND WE BASICALLY, DESPITE, DESPITE ALL THE FANCY LANGUAGE IN OUR CONTRACT, ALL THAT, WE BASICALLY, IT'S A 30 DAY DEAL BY ANY OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT IN OUR VIEW.
UH, I WOULD, I CAN TELL YOU THIS, EACH OF YOU THIS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM WHATSOEVER, WE HAVEN'T EVER SUED ANYBODY THAT FIRED US.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HIRE US, YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP US, YOU TELL US AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BURN BRIDGES.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT LET YOU GO ONE YEAR, MAYBE THE PEOPLE THAT CALL IT, THEY'RE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR SAYING, PLEASE COME BACK TO NEXT.
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Y'ALL ARE GONNA DO IS A COURT.WHATEVER Y'ALL FEEL LIKE IS BEST FOR YOUR COUNTY, WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO.
AND IF, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP ME HERE FOR ANOTHER NINE MONTHS DOING ALL THIS STUFF AND THEN, AND THEN TELL ME, JEFF, WE WANNA DO SOMETHING ELSE, THAT'S FINE.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT HUNG UP ON A YEAR RENEWAL, THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER.
I JUST WANT A CHANCE TO DO THE JOB AND, AND LET BE GRADE IT ON WHAT WE'VE DONE.
THAT'S REALLY ALL I'M, I CARE ABOUT YOU.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO RENEW IT, COMMISSIONER CLARK, THAT'S FINE WITH ME TOO.
DO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH, DO WE HAVE TO SAY A, A TIME TODAY? IS IT 12 MONTHS OR IS IT NINE MONTHS? WELL, I, WE COULD JUST CONTINUE ON AND DO NOTHING, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS IT AUTOMATICALLY, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN AT AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDS ITSELF.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE THREE OPTIONS.
WE COULD, UH, UH, VOTE TODAY NOT TO EXTEND AND DO AN RFP IN, IN SIX WEEKS AND TRY TO START WITH SOMEBODY MAYBE THE 1ST OF JUNE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR WE COULD DO IT AT THE END OF OUR BUDGET YEAR.
UH, AS OF START A NEW CONTRACT WITH WHOEVER THAT LINES UP BEING AS OF OCTOBER 1ST AND DO THE, ALL THE WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE TO GET THAT READY TO GO THIS SUMMER.
IT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE TIME.
OR WE COULD DO SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE YEAR OR WE COULD JUST NOT DO ANYTHING.
I MEAN, JUST, JUST KEEP PLOTTING ALONG.
UM, BUT IT IS A DISCUSSION THAT THIS COURT NEEDED TO HAVE THAT WE NEEDED TO HEAR FROM JEFF AND AND HIS FIRM.
AND, UH, UH, IT'S THAT, THE THING I GUESS THAT IS, UH, TO ME, IF, IF WE DO AN RFP, IT DOES PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN WE DO THAT.
AND UH, UH, BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT, UH, JEFF HAS SAID, YOU FEEL VERY CONFIDENT.
I'M SURE THAT YOUR FIRM WILL SUBMIT A PROPOSAL.
NO, WE WOULD AND, AND
SO, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT TOO.
SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IF IF WHAT WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? YEAH, OKAY.
IF WE'RE SATISFIED THAT WE WANT TO HAVE JEFF AND THEM, UH, BE OUR COLLECTOR FOR A CERTAIN LENGTH OF TIME, DOES THAT HAVE ANY, WHY CAN'T WE SAY, HEY, OKAY, WE WANT Y'ALL TO BE HERE A YEAR.
UH, THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THE RFP OR ANYTHING ELSE.
AND LET'S HOPE, UNLESS HE'LL BE, I GUESS HE'LL BE WANTING TO BE, UH, MAKING A PROPOSAL ON THAT TOO.
YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'LL TOO.
UH, WHAT IF WE DID NOT RENEW THIS CONTRACT, BUT WE RENEW A NEW, A NEW CONTRACT FOR 60 DAYS UNTIL WE HAD TIME TO AN
COMMISSIONER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE NEGOTIATING.
CAN I THROW SOMETHING OUT? I, TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO DO ONE, ONE OF A COUPLE THINGS.
I THINK JUDGE WOODS TALKED ABOUT BOTH OF 'EM EITHER, EITHER EXTEND THIS THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR OR THROUGH THE END OF THE, OF THE, OF THE, UH, CALENDAR YEAR.
I, I JUST, I I THINK WE NEED SOME TIME.
I, I THINK QUITE HONESTLY, IN FAIRNESS TO US, I THINK WE NEED SOME TIME TO WORK IT AND, AND SHOW WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND IN FAIRNESS TO THE COURT, I DON'T IF IF YOU HAVE CONCERN, IF, IF YOU'RE SITTING HERE TODAY AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW IT'S, HOW IT'S WHAT ALL HAS HAPPENED AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THEN, THEN I WOULD SAY DON'T RENEW IT FOR A YEAR.
BUT I, I THINK I, I'VE TOLD, UH, TOLD SEVERAL PEOPLE THIS, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE HAVE SIX MONTHS TO WORK ON THIS, WE'RE GONNA KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE WE'RE GONNA BE.
WE HAVE FULLY IMPLEMENTED SIX MONTHS.
WE, I I I WELCOME BEING GREAT AT THAT POINT.
UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO WELL.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE, I THINK EVERYBODY BESIDES COMMISSIONER JACKSON'S GONNA BE HAPPY TOO.
BUT, UH, I REALLY, I REALLY THINK IF, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S A WORKABLE SOLUTION THAT, THAT IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE THAT I WOULD ASK CONSIDER WE, WE EXTENDED THE FISCAL YEAR.
UM, Y'ALL BEEN EMPLOYED BY THE COUNTY SINCE OH FIVE.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NOW THAT, THAT ALL THE JPS ARE WORKING TOGETHER AND, UH, THE INFORMATION IS BEING, UH, INPUT INTO YOUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM MORE EFFICIENTLY THAT NOW, UH, YOU NEED MORE TIME TO SHOW US WHAT YOU CAN DO, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE BEEN EMPLOYED BY SINCE ABOUT
AND IT WAS, AND IT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE THE COMM, I MEAN THE, THE JPS WERE ALL GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
IT'S WHY THIS, THIS, UH, OVERLOAD OF, THERE'S PARTLY THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES.
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TECHNICALLY JPS PLUS OTHER VARIABLES.BUT YOU'RE SAYING NOW THAT SINCE EVERYBODY'S WORKING TOGETHER, WE'RE ALL GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AND EVERYBODY'S NOT TRYING TO PULL OFF LIKE THIS, THAT, THAT YOU NEED SOME MORE TIME TO GET US STRAIGHTENED OUT.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT TO SHOW US WHAT YOU CAN DO THAT, THAT IS MY, THAT IS MY POINT COMMISSIONER.
JOHN, YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY QUIET.
I I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING.
WHEN HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT FISCAL YEAR, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COURT THOUGHT WAS IN EFFICIENCY AND UNDER THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT, HE'D HAVE 60 DAYS TO ADDRESS IT.
SO, UH, SO THERE'S A 90 DAY WINDOW THAT WOULD START IF, IF WE SAID IT STARTS TODAY, THAT WOULD BE AT JULY 1ST.
SO IN HIS SUGGESTION OF SOMETHING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, HE'S NOT NECESSARILY ASKING FOR SIX MONTHS MORE.
HE'S ACTUALLY ASKING FOR LIKE THREE MONTHS MORE WHEN HE WOULD GET, I THINK, UH, I, I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT I'M SAYING IN TERMS OF CLARIFY.
IT MAKES, WE'RE, WE'RE UNHAPPY.
WELL THE TERMS, THE CONTRACT, I'VE GOT 60 DAYS TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, BOUNCE BACK AND THEN 30 DAYS AFTER THAT.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT, JOE? I DO.
I, I, ALTHOUGH, SO, SO A FISCAL YEAR IS SIX MONTHS FROM TODAY.
BUT REALLY IT'S ONLY THREE MONTHS MORE THAN I THINK WHAT HE'D BE ENTITLED TO.
IF YOU SAID IT'S A DEFICIENCY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET A CURED OR FIXED, BUT STILL ACT NINE DAY, WE WOULD BE TO NOT TO GIVE THEIR 60 DAY NOTICE AND THEN POSS COULD WE POSSIBLY GIVE A SIX DAY NOTICE AND THEN TWO WEEKS YOU COME BACK WITH A DUE CONTRACT FOR, 'CAUSE WE DON'T DO A 60 DAY NOTICE, WHICH OUR CONTRACT SAYS FOR 12 MONTHS.
BUT IT ALSO HAS A PROVISION ON, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE DISSATISFIED WITH, WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THEN YOU'RE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND I REALIZE HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 30 DAYS, BUT HE'S, HE'S, HE'S OFFERING OUT MORE THAN WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS.
I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND MAYBE WE EXTEND THE CONTRACT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND JUST HAVE REAL CLEAR, UH, IN THERE THAT WE COULD CANCEL WITHIN 90 DAYS, EXTEND IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, PROVE, PROVE WHAT THEY CAN DO, AND THEN WITH, WITH THE CLAUSE, WE CAN, UH, CANCEL CONTRACT WITHIN EIGHT DAYS, 30 DAYS.
JUST YOU LOOK AT THAT, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO EXTEND IT FOR A YEAR AND THEN COME UP WITH AN ISSUE THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.
'CAUSE THEY COULD BE VERY WELL DOING THEIR JOB VERY WELL.
I'D SAY I STILL LOSE MY POINT OF ARGUMENT ABOUT, UH, THE COMPETITION, BUT I GUESS THAT WOULD JUST, THAT COULD NOT BE A CONSIDERATION.
RFP ANYWAY, UH, RECOMMEND TO THE END OF THE YEAR WITH, WITH, WITH THE OPTION OF, OF A, UH, CANCELLATION THREE.
THAT'S TO THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE OPTION TO CANCEL WITHIN 30 DAYS AND 90 DAYS? WHATEVER WE EXTEND TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, IT'S SIX MONTHS AND WE OUT, IT'S THREE MONTHS AS A JOHN STATE.
SO I MEAN, BETWEEN NOW SEPTEMBER WE SHOULD KNOW.
THEN WHEN WE DO THE RFP, WE WOULD KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE DOING IT.
LIKE I SAID, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CANCEL ANYBODY'S CONTRACT AT THE TIMING WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I I HATE THAT THE TIMING CAME IN LIKE IT DID RIGHT NOW.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME REALLY KIND WORK ALL THIS OUT.
WELL, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA GET STUCK WITH, EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY WE CAN TERMINATE IT AT ANY TIME, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOOD MANNERS TO TERMINATE SOMEBODY'S CONTRACT.
YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SAY THIS MR. CLARK, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY REGRET HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TODAY.
I, I THINK THIS IS GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THIS KIND OF DISCUSSIONS PROBABLY IF WE HAD MORE OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ON THE, WHETHER I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, THE MURDER.
YOU THINK SIX MONTHS? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA RENEW THIS PARTICULAR ONE BECAUSE IT'S FOR A YEAR.
SO IF WE VOTE THEY NOT TO RENEW THIS ONE, I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER ONE COME IN REAL SHORTLY WITH THE TERMINOLOGY THAT EVERYBODY'S, WE JUST DIDN'T EXTEND THIS ONE SIX MONTHS, JACK.
WE JUST KEEP IT, KEEP IN MIND PROBABLY JOHN, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT, AND I'M SORRY I WAS ON THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
RIGHT? AND, AND I, WITHIN THAT CONTEXT, IF IF THE COURT DECIDES DO RFP DURING THAT TERM, THEN THEN RP WOULD COME BACK AND AT A DIFFERENT CONTRACT FROM THEM AS WELL AS FROM OTHERS.
I MEAN, IT MAY BE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT IS SOME INTERRUPTION IN SERVICE OBVIOUSLY.
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BUT I WAS JUST THINKING FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT OF, OF OF WHAT I THINK THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO, IF THEY'RE ENTITLED TO 90 DAYS, THEN, THEN, THEN EVEN IF WE SAY WE'RE, WE'RE DONE WITH YOU, WE'RE REALLY ONLY GIVING THREE MONTHS MORE THAN WHAT YEAH, THEY'RE ON BOARD TILL JUNE 1ST ANYWAY.YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, JUDGE.
I'M LIKE TO ADD, IF WE, IF WE EXTEND FOR SIX MONTHS THAT THEN ABOUT MONTH THREE WE HAD TO START THE PROCESS AND THAT ONLY GIVE YOU THREE MONTHS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU KNOW, WE MAY FIND OUT THREE MONTHS THAT WE, WE DIDN'T WANT PUT AN RFP OUT.
YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE UNDER CONTRACT TILL JUNE 1ST.
IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM NOTICE TODAY, THEY'RE ON CONTRACT FOR A YEAR FROM JUNE 1ST.
WELL, SO, SO WE, IF WE, IF WE, IF WE DO NOT DO THIS CONTRACT, WHEN WE DO A NEW CONTRACT THAT COMES UP, UH, WE GO FROM JUNE 1ST TO OCTOBER 1ST.
WHAT IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING? DOES IT JUST EXTEND ALL IF WE, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, GOES OFF FOR 12 MONTHS, WHICH IS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE OH FIVE? UM, APRIL.
AND IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT IN JUNE THEN WE JUST LOOK AT IT AND THEN, UH, ASK THEM TO EXTEND IT FOR, FOR THREE MORE MONTHS? FOR 90 DAYS? WE LOOK AT IT, GIVE FULL.
WELL I THINK IT JOHN WOULD TIME IF WE, THIS IS NOT A TERMINATION, BUT THIS SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA RENEW ANYTIME BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 1ST.
WE COULD, WE COULD DO ANOTHER CONTRACT, COULD WE NOT? I I THINK SO.
THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO REMEMBER, I I, I JUST, MY POINT WAS JUST AS A TIMING STANDPOINT OF, OF IT, IT'S CARRIED THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR THAT THAT, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY JUST THREE MONTHS MORE THAN WHAT, AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A LOT MORE TIME DOING AN RFP.
YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT I, LIKE I SAID, WE GOT, MAYBE WE'LL DO ANOTHER CONTRACT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME END YEAR.
THAT BE, WOULD THAT SOLVE ALL THE ISSUES? NOT ALL, BUT SOLVE, SOLVE SOME OF THEM.
I'M SURE YOU WOULD OPPOSE IT TO JUNE TO, TO DOING A SIX MONTH CONTRACT IF WE WANT TO GO A FEW MORE MONTHS.
IS THAT CORRECT? ME? SIX MONTHS FROM NOW? I WOULD LIKE IT TO GO THROUGH DECEMBER TODAY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IN JUNE THAT IT'S LOOKING PRETTY GOOD, BUT WE'RE NOT REAL SURE WE MIGHT GONNA HAVE CONTRACT JUST FOR SIX MONTHS AND, AND AT THAT POINT, OR UNTIL THE FISCAL YEAR, BY THE WAY, JULY 1ST.
LEMME JUST TWO ISSUES HERE AND REALLY NOT ISSUES.
WE HAVE THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE, AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET EVERY BIT OF FUNDS IN THAT LEGITIMATELY IS OWE COST ACCOUNT, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET OURSELVES BACK IN THIS PICKLE AGAIN.
THAT WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO GET FUNDS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, EVEN IF WE DO GO FORWARD WITH A NEW CONTRACT.
SO THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S THE REAL WORLD WE LIVE IN.
AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES AND THAT'S WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE FOCUSING ON.
YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, GETTING EVERY, UH, VIABLE SOURCE OF REVENUE.
THAT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
SO, UH, AND IT REALLY, WHEN YOU BOIL DOWN TO IT, THIS IS AN ACCOUNTABILITY ISSUE.
I MEAN, IT'S KIND LIKE YOUR TAX TEST, YOU KNOW, UH, SO IT'S, IT, I SHOULD'VE USED THAT TERMINOLOGY, BUT I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS, IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT, UH, THE DELINQUENT, UH, FIRM HAS FOR THESE DELINQUENT FINE.
AND AGAIN, NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTION.
BUT ANYWAY, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
HAVE A SIR, WHAT YOU MOTION IS? YES, I'M WITH YOU, TOM.
WE SEND, UH, LINEER LETTER THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE EXISTING CONTRACT AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE A NEW CONTRACT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS OR WHATEVER, AN EXTENSION.
WELL, AS PART OF THAT, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE RF, ARE WE GONNA MAKE THAT A PART OF THE R FP? WE CAN, WE CAN CONDUCT, CAN WE NOT DO THE RFP TO START OCTOBER 1ST AND WE DO THE RFP THIS SUMMER, BUT CAN WE NOT SIGN THAT CONTRACT WOULD NOT BE READY TILL NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE SIX MONTHS OR SO.
THEY NEED TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
WE DO THE RFP IN THE MEANTIME.
WELL, I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF YOUR MOTION.
I WOULD THINK WE HAVE AN RFP BETWEEN PRIOR TO YES.
WELL THAT WAS KIND MY INTENTION ON, I MEAN, I'VE DONE THAT TIME SINCE WHEN WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THE RFP? WE DON'T WANT DO IT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET, THAT'S FOR SURE.
IT HAVE, IT'LL HAVE TO BE BETWEEN NINE.
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BETWEEN NINE AND OCTOBER 1ST.AND IT, IT SHOULD THEN WE DON'T WANNA GET IN THAT TIME FRAME WHERE SOMEBODY LEAVES OCTOBER 1ST AND SOMEBODY ELSE WILL COME IN.
YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO KNOW IF, IF IT IS JUST FIRM, IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ROLL OFF.
BUT IF IT'S ANOTHER FIRM THEY WOULD DATE.
HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT TO START 60 DAYS? YOU NEED A MINIMUM OF A MONTH? I, I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF WE'RE GOING FEE, IF WE'RE GOING DO IT TO START OCTOBER ONE, THEN WHAT? WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROBABLY DO IT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN AUGUST.
AT THAT POINT WE MAY FIND OUT WE'VE GOT RFP OUT THERE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS IS WORKING PRETTY GOOD.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WE MIGHT MIGHT WANNA PUSH THE RF P OUT JUST TO GIVE THEM TIME, UH, TO PROVE WHAT THEY DO.
MAKE IT SEPTEMBER 1ST ONE, THAT FIRST SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE THEY'D GIVE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.
WOULD THAT HELP? SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER, DECEMBER? NO, I WANT THEIR CONTRACT RUN THROUGH IN THE, IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
OH, YOU DO WANT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THEY'RE ALREADY GOING THROUGH JUNE 1ST.
WHERE'S THE EXTENSION FROM JUNE 1ST TILL SEPTEMBER 30TH.
BUT THE RFP NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE PRIOR TO A POSSIBILITY OF A CONTRACT CHANGE.
WHAT? I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS IF WE GET INTO OCTOBER AND THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, YOU STILL GONNA DO THE RFP? BE MY QUESTION? I DUNNO IF WE CAN ANSWER THAT TODAY, I GUESS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.
WE COULD COME BACK, THINK IF THEY WERE DOING A GOOD JOB, IT JUST WALK.
MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE R FP TODAY.
MAYBE WE NEED TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THAT WAY IT DOESN'T GET INVOLVED IN THE BUDGET YEAR.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BOTTOM LINE IS WE WANT THE MONEY.
WELL THIS, THIS IS BASICALLY THE 1ST OF APRIL.
IF THEY CAN'T MAKE A SHOW BY THE 1ST OF JUNE, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? I MEAN, YOU GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A SHOW IN BY THE 1ST OF JUNE, SHOULDN'T YOU? NO, SIR.
'CAUSE THE ONLY YEARS, THE ONLY YEARS OF DATA WE HAVE ARE 2008 AND NINE.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN 11 YET, AND I DON'T HAVE THE PREVIOUS STUFF EITHER.
SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS DECIDE TO NOT TRY TO CLEAN THE DATA AND DO GIVE IT ALL TO 'EM AND REALIZE THAT FOLKS ARE GONNA GET DEVIL'S DEVIL, BUT WE NEED JUST TO DISAGREE, YOU KNOW? AND GOING BACK TO THE DAYS WHEN THE JPS DIDN'T EVEN WANT US, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY I CAN'T, NONE OF US CAN TELL THE JP THE DATA THEY, THEY WANT TO USE OMNI AND NOT DO IT.
WE HAVE NOTHING, NOTHING WE CAN DO.
WE'RE ON BOARD AND THEY WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT MY IDEA WASN'T HIS IDEA.
THEY WANT US THAT THEY'RE GIVING FOR DATA.
NOW WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND HE'S GONNA DO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY ALL HAVE MEETING THURSDAY, FRIDAY,
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FIVE COLLECTION FEE COLLECTION SERVICES.UM, ENTER INTO A NEW CONTRACT BEGINNING JUNE, FIRST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2010, UH, UH, I'M SORRY, 2011.
UM, AND CREATE AN RFP IN AUGUST.
IF WE GO OUT, IF WE GO OUT BY AUGUST 1ST, HOW LONG IT TAKE TO DO ONE JACK? IT'S ABOUT A, IT'S ABOUT A SIX TO EIGHT WEEK TURNAROUND.
I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IF THERE AGAIN IS DO WE WANT TO STATE WHEN WE'RE GONNA DO AN RFP IF IN FACT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW WE LOOK AT THIS LIKE, HEY, WELL THE JUDGE ALREADY SAID LIKE, DO RFP.
I I THINK WE YOU THAT THAT'S THE TIMING ON IT IS THE THING THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST CONCERN.
I DON'T WANNA SEE A LAP LAPSE IN BETWEEN THERE AT ALL.
IF HAVE A NEW FIRM
WE HAD, IF WE HAD, IF WE AWARD RFP, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF YOU, IF YOU AWARD RFP, SAY SOMEONE NEW WAS AWARD RF P, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE THEM TO GET UP AND RUNNING? IT'S GONNA TAKE A MINIMUM A MONTH, PROBABLY LONGER.
LET'S GIVE, LET'S GIVE THEM TWO, TWO MONTHS OUT.
WHATEVER SEEMS, IF EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING SMOOTH, THEN THERE WON'T BE ANY NEED FOR, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, I THINK IN CASE, OKAY, UH, JEFF HAD MADE A SUGGESTION, I THINK IT'S GOOD IN LIGHT OF THIS, IS THAT HAVE, UH, A CONDITION ON THEM TO SUBMIT A NEW CONTRACT, UH, WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD OF TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
BECAUSE AS IT'S WORDED NOW, IF ONE CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND RFP IS KIND OF GOING ALONG, IT MAY NOT BE, THERE MAY NOT BE, UM, IT MAY NOT BE COVERED.
CONCEIVABLY ONE COULD WANT OUT THAT THERE'S A NEW ENTITY TO TAKE PLACE.
AND BESIDES THAT, THE WHOLE THING MAY BE OBLIGATED THAT IT MAY ROCK A ALONG AND WE MAY WANT ENTER INTO A NEW CONTRACT WITH THEM AND JUST FORGO THE R FP PROCESS.
I'M, I'M, I I, I, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THAT DECISION NOW.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT, THAT PERHAPS AS PART OF THIS, WE WANTED TO, UH, REQUEST OF THEM SUBMIT A NEW CONTRACT BY DATE.
SO YEAH, MY ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT IS NOT SO MUCH IF WE DO THE RFPS WHEN WE DO, I REALLY THINK THAT, UH, NOT ONLY ON THIS ISSUE, BUT ON OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, OTHER CONTRACTS WE HAVE WITH COUNTY, UH, OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED.
I'M KIND OF THINK THIS IS A YEAR TO PUT ALL THOSE THINGS ON THE TABLE.
AND, UH, MY, AND I'VE EXPRESSED THAT TO JEFF.
MY, MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS I DON'T WANT INTERRUPT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO THINK IT'S JUST A HEALTHY, UH, THING FOR US TO DO AS A COUNTY TO PUT IT OUT FOR MAYBE NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO, TO PUT IN A MOTION TO DO AN RFP, BUT MAYBE WE CAN JUST DO A VERY SIMPLE
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THING OF, UH, CANCELING THE CONTRACT, NOT RENEWING THE CONTRACT ITSELF FOR A SHORT, SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME.I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT INTO FORM PROMOTION.
I TO TELL I WOULDN'T HAVE THAT LANGUAGE EITHER.
SAY WE CAN, WE COULD IN ANOTHER MEETING, WE COULD HAVE MOTIONS GO FOR RFP FOR THE RF, ALL THAT.
MAYBE WE JUST EXTEND OUR CON WE DON'T, WE DON'T RENEW THIS CONTRACT, BUT WE EXTEND OUR CONTRACT THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH.
IS THAT SIMPLEST JUDGE WOULD MAKE, MAYBE CAN PASS SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT, UH, WHATEVER THE PERIOD OF TIME WE WANT TO REDO WITH SOME LANGUAGE THAT UH, WE HAVE AN OPTION TO USE THEM UNTIL THE RP PROCESS IS COMPLETE.
IT'S PRETTY MUD ANYWAY, BUT YOU READ IT BACK TO US.
I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU SEND NOTIFICATION NOT TO BE RENEW, BUT THEN YOU TALK ABOUT, UM, EXTENDING, ACCEPT A NEW CONTRACT TO EXTEND, YOU KNOW, ENTER INTO A NEW CONTRACT DATED DUE FIRST THROUGH THE 30TH.
DOES THAT MEAN IT'S LIKE, ARE HE'S GONNA SUBMIT ANOTHER CONTRACT AND WE ARE GONNA APPROVE IT RIGHT NOW? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WANTED DO.
I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S VERSUS SAYING WHAT THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEND NOTIFICATION NOT TO RENEW BASED ON THE, UH, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CONDITION THAT YOU USE THEM UNTIL AN RP IS WRITTEN AT A LATER DATE.
JOHN, WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT BE CLEAN JUST TO SUBMIT A, A NEW CONTRACT THAT BEGINS APRIL 1ST, IT RUNS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30 30? UH, WOULD THAT BE PROBABLY BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE, IT SEEMS TO BE THE SIMPLEST YEAH.
ALL THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY WHAT THEY'RE DOING, I THINK IS JUST TAKING THIS CONTRACT, SHORTENING THE TERM OF, OF IT, INSTEAD OF GOING FROM LIKE JUNE TO JUNE.
THAT'S JUNE TO S DOES THAT SEEM SEEM CLEAN TO YOU? THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY THROUGH IT, WITH THE IDEA THAT ALL THIS OTHER IS COMING ON DOWN THE PI AND, UH, FROM APRIL 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 3RD, MY JOB IS TO CONVINCE YOU BY PERFORMANCE THAT YOU DO, THAT YOU BRING US A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS.
IF I GET ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT COMMISSIONER MANNING, I'M GONNA BE TICKLED.
ARE WE READY? I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
BUT IT IS, IT'S, WE, WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, BUT WE, I THINK WE NEEDED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE FOR OUR COUNTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK REEMPHASIZE, THAT OUR JPS AND CONSTABLES ARE, ARE WORKING HARD TO DO WHAT THEY CAN TO HELP US.
BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT PROXIMITY.
JUDGE, CAN I BOLSTER WHAT YOU JUST SAID? SURE.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, I'VE GONE TO THE JPS AND TALKED ABOUT THIS, THAT, AND BASICALLY I HAD TWO OUT OF FOUR THAT WERE WILLING TO, TO TRY THIS AND DO THIS AND, AND BE ON BOARD.
I HAD TWO OF THEM TELL ME REPEATEDLY OVER THE YEARS, I'M NOT INTERESTED.
I DON'T WANNA DO THIS, I'M NOT GONNA PARTICIPATION.
AND IT WAS REFRESHING TO ME LAST FALL WHEN I WENT AND VISITED WITH THE JPS AND THEY EXPRESSED THEIR DESIRE TO GET BOARD AND DO THIS.
AND, UH, I WAS REALLY PLEASED.
AND I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD, SHOULD BE PLEASED WITH THEIR ATTITUDE.
SO JERRY, I MEAN RAY, YOU WANT TO, I'LL WAIT FOR A READ BACK TO A SECOND.
UH, MOTION TO SEND A NO NOTIFICATION NOT TO RENEW AND THEN GO, AND BERG SHALL SUBMIT A NEW CONTRACT DATED APRIL 3RD.
FIRST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2011.
THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND ITS, IT'S JUNE 1ST, RIGHT? THINK APRIL 1ST THROUGH APRIL.
SEPTEMBER 1ST, SEPTEMBER 30TH.
AND THEN ALL THIS OTHER STUFF CAN BE TAPED.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER UH CLARK AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER ROW.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR FRONT WITH US.
YOU'LL GET THAT TO US BY THE, I'LL, I'LL SUBMIT TO THE PUBLIC.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM MOVING RIGHT ALONG IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ALLOWING PRECINCT TWO TO APPLY FOR TURF GRANTS AND AUTHORIZING THE COMMISSION
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TO BE THE FORMING PARTY.THE TUR PROGRAM IS COMING UP AGAIN HERE THE 1ST OF APRIL.
UH, IT'S THE TEXAS ADMISSION REDUCTION PROGRAM WHERE WE PAID $10 EXTRA FEE AND WHEN YOU CHANGED THE LICENSE FROM THE SAME OWNERSHIP, WHATEVER, WE, WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT COUPLE YEARS AGO, TWO GRANTS GOT $16,000 GRAND ON ONE FOR A 5,000 TRUCK PAY, IT'LL PAY 80% OF THE COST OF NEW VEHICLE.
UH, THE NEW PROGRAM IS STARTING APRIL 1ST.
IT'S A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE WITH MONEY THERE.
I WANT BE, I WANT BE FIRST IF I GET SOME MORE MONEY FOR SOME CLAIMS. AND THE REASON I DIDN'T PUT MYSELF IN THERE IS 'CAUSE IF I WANT ANY OF US, I GUESS SHOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THAT RENT, THEN THE COMMISSIONER WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY ON THE SITE EXPENDITURE LINE FOR THE GRANT.
JUST WANT TO APPLY FOR IT WHETHER YOU, WHEN YOU GET IT, YOU CAN TURN IT DOWN OR NOT ACCEPT IT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT DO WITH IT.
IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET IT, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? J COMMENT? NO, SIR.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? NO.
SECOND COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES A MOTION COMMISSIONER SECOND MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT ITEM IS 17.
CONSIDER OPTIONS AND DISCUSS OPTIONS FOR COUNTY ROAD 3 34 REPAIR REHABILITATION THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY DEN ENGINEERING COMPANY.
AND, UH, JUDGE, I, WE TALKED ABOUT 3 34 AND WE GONNA REOPEN IT.
SO THIS IS JUST, UH, TO GET IN.
AND THIS WOULD BE PAID FAR BY WELL I WAS HOPING THAT THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND.
Y'ALL HAVE ENJOYED THIS ENLIGHTENMENT.
MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT ALL THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY WILL GO TO MR.
THAT'S, CAN WE JUST GIVE A REAL QUICK STORY ABOUT THIS THREE 30, AND MOST OF Y'ALL MAY ALREADY BE AWARE OF IT.
3 34 IS IN THE VERY NORTHERN PART OF OUR COUNTY RIGHT ADJACENT TO HUNT COUNTY.
AND THEY MINED ROCK, UH, CRUSHED ROCK OUT OF THIS, UH, PIT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON THE COUNTY ROAD WAS MADE A PART OF THAT AREA AND WAS ACTUALLY MINED OUT OF, I BELIEVE.
UH, THE, UH, MR. MCCLELLAN AND I WENT OUT, CLIMBED OVER THE ROAD AND ROCKED IT.
QUITE A SIGHT TO SEE ACTUALLY WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE.
BUT, UH, NOW, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS AGREED TO PUT THE ROAD BACK INTO THE, UH, INTO THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY WHERE IT WAS INITIALLY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT PROPERLY.
UH, WE ASKED OR JC ASKED DAN BAUM, UH, TO COME OUT AND MEET WITH US AND MEET WITH THE OWNER OF THE ROAD AND UH, UH, OR THE, NOT THE OWNER OF THE ROAD, BUT THE, UH, PERSON THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH.
AND SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU TODAY.
AND AND JUST LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SIMPLIFIED VERSION.
UM, THE ONLY THINGS WE PUT IN, I DID WRITE A LETTER THAT KIND OF TALKED ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
'CAUSE WE DID DISCUSS BRINGING THE ROAD BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT.
UM, THE ONLY REASON WE, WE WOULD POSSIBLY DEVIATE FROM THAT ALIGNMENT IS YOU NOW HAVE TWO QUARRIES THAT, THAT ARE ON ANY OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO YOU HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT DROP OFFS.
IT'S ABOUT A 70 FOOT WIDE AREA THAT WE WOULD REBUILD THE ROAD IN.
SO, SO THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO REBUILD THE ROAD AND IT HAS SOME SAFETY MEASURES ON THE SIDE SO WE COULD KEEP IT BACK ON THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT BECAUSE THERE IS A T TEMPORARY DETOUR ROAD THAT GOES AROUND THE QUARRIES AND KIND OF HAS A FLATTER ROUTE, UM, THAT THE QUARRY PROPERTY OWNER BUILT.
THAT'S AN OPTION TO UTILIZE THAT NEW TEMPORARY ROAD 'CAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN PLACE.
MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF WIDENING THAT YOU JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY TRAVEL ON.
BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL ROAD THAT HAS BEEN BUILT, UM, THAT IS BEING USED AS A TEMPORARY DETOUR.
SO THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION TO FOLLOW THAT PATH IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A SAFER CONDITION.
UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. PRICK HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, HE'S WILLING TO GO EITHER WAY.
UM, HE'LL PROVIDE THE DIRT AND THE GRAVEL AND ALL THE MEANS NECESSARY TO PUT THIS WORD ROAD IN PLACE.
SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO MAKE A DECISION IS THERE IS ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES BETTER SAFETY WISE.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE USE OF DRAINAGE BERMS TO POSSIBLY CREATE BARRIERS OR JUST USING GUARDRAILS.
SO THERE'S A FEW ELEMENTS TO FIGURE OUT.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL ITEMS THAT MR. PAN COOK IS GOING TO BE PAYING FOR.
IT WOULD JUST BE DECISIONS OF THE COUNTY OF HOW YOU WANT PUT YOUR ROAD BACK IN PLACE.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE WHY THERE'S OPTIONS ON THERE.
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UM, MR. PAN COOK PUT THE ROAD BACK, WE CAN'T CONTRACT WITH HIM TO PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SIDE THE ENGINEERING RESPONSIBILITY.THE COUNTY HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN'T GIVE IT TO, TO PUT THE ROAD BACK.
THE, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF RESPONSIBILITY IN HIS OBEY OUR CONTRACTOR, WELL SEPARATE SEPARATELY DO THAT THING AND HAVE HIM PUT THE MONEY IN HIS GROUP.
I MEAN IT'S SUBJECT TO OUR APPROVAL ULTIMATELY AND THE ENGINEERING FIRM.
SO YOU'RE SAYING ALONG WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM, WE CAN LET MR. PAN COOK, PUT THE ROAD BACK IF, IF, IF WE'RE AGREEABLE THAT WHAT THE ENGINEERING FIRM AND MR. PAN COOK SAYS IS UP TO THE COUNTY SPECIFICATIONS.
THAT BECAUSE THE, THE STATUTE ALLOWS US TO, TO HAVE HIM PAY FOR IT ALL ANYWAY.
YOUR WIFE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT, BUT THAT'S A MORE COST EFFICIENT WAY, YOU KNOW, TO RESOLVE THIS.
IS THAT YOUR CONCERN, COMMISSIONER? WELL, I DON'T THINK HE MIGHT DOING IT.
I JUST WANT KNOW IF LEGALLY FOR US TO STILL ANOTHER CONTRACT.
I DUNNO IF WE CAN CONTRACT WITH HIM EVERY INDIVIDUAL MR. PANCREAS.
WELL, WE'RE NOT CONTRACTING, WE'RE NOT PAYING HIM.
WE'RE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH HIM.
I I I DON'T THINK WE'RE PAYING MR. PANCREAT.
NO, WE WON'T PAY HIM ANY MONEY.
SO HE'S HE'S SIMPLY RESTORING IT TO WHERE IT WAS TO MAKE A POLL.
LIKE IT WAS, AND THE PLAN WOULD BE TO, TO CREATE A PLAN THAT MEETS COUNTY STANDARDS WITH A SPECIFICATION THAT MEETS COUNTY STANDARDS.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE JUST HIM GOING OUT AND DECIDING HOW TO PUT IT BACK.
HE'D BE FOLLOWING THE PLAN WE COME UP WITH AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN AGREED UPON PRICE THAT HE'S SAYING, I'M GOING TO DO THIS AND HE'S GONNA SPEND IT OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET.
BUT HE WOULD AGREE TO THE TERMS THAT WE WOULD COME UP WITH.
WILL THIS STILL BE USED AS A HALL ROAD FOR THE GRAVE FIELDS? THEY WON'T NOT BE USING IT ANYMORE.
WORDS THEY THREW HALL AND ROCK OVER.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THESE KIDS DID.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING.
AND WHEN, WHEN, UH, UH, MR. MCCLELLAN AND JC AND I WENT OUT, THE, THE BASIC THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT IS, AND WE ALSO HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM T STOCK THERE, MR. NASH WITH US T STOCK HAS A REQUIREMENT TO MONITOR ALL ABANDONED QUARRIES.
SO THEY WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THIS AND THEY APPROVED, UH, OF, OF EITHER ONE OF THESE TWO SCENARIOS.
I BELIEVE EITHER THE REROUTING OF THE EXISTING ROAD, UH, OR THE FOLLOWING TEMPORARY ROAD, I BELIEVE, AND I BELIEVE THAT OF JC AND OF, UH, MR. MCCLENNAN WAS, IS THAT WE WANTED THE OLD ROAD MADE WHOLE AGAIN, BUT WHERE IT WOULD BE A STRAIGHT SHOT THROUGH THERE, UH, WHICH WOULD BE ACTUALLY ITEM NUMBER, OPTION NUMBER ONE I BELIEVE.
UH, AS A PART OF THAT, I THINK THE TEXT T GENTLEMAN, MR. NASH FELT THAT WE WOULD BE BETTER NOT GOING WITH A BURN BUT A RAIL BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUE WHERE THE WATER COULD DRAIN OFF OF ROAD.
AND SO, UH, WE ASKED DAN AND BOB TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH THEM AND UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TODAY IS GIVE APPROVAL TO YOU GUYS TO WORK UP THE FINAL PLANS WITH MR.
BUT IT WAS, I THINK EVERYBODY LEFT THAT DAY WE NEEDED TO DO THE BURN.
I DUNNO, JOHN, IF MIKE SAID MORE ELSE TO YOU OR NOT.
YES, HONOR, THIS IS, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME AND WE FINALLY I THINK GOT TO THE POINT ASSUMING MR. PAN COOK DOES WHAT HE TELLS US HE WILL DO.
I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA GETTING THIS ISSUE BACK TO WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY, WHERE THE ROAD TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THE GOOD THING IS THE EXISTING ROAD WAS JUST A DIRT ROAD AND THIS WILL ACTUALLY NOW HAVE A GRAVEL TOPPING TO IT.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY A BETTER SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE PEOPLE THROUGH, ESPECIALLY IN WET CONDITIONS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO IT WILL BE GRAVELED A LITTLE BIT IMPROVED FROM BEFORE.
WELL THE ORIGINAL ROAD WAS PRETTY STRAIGHT.
YOU LOOK ON THIS MAP THAT YOU HAVE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE OTHER ONE TOOK A PRETTY GOOD LOOP.
IT'LL JUST CONTINUE IN THE DOOR JUST LIKE IT WAS BEFORE WE DUG IT UP.
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OKAY.WASN'T NO DIFFERENCE IN THE COST OF THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT'S YOUR UH, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR DESIRED BUILD ON THIS? WELL MY MOTION IS TO GET IN THE AUTHORITY TO DO THE ENGINEER ANY DID ONE THING, HAVE YOU TALKED WITH MR. I HAVE AND I TOLD HIM THAT BASICALLY THIS IS WHAT WE WAS GOING, HE SENT ME TO THIS, HE HAS NOT RECEIVED THIS YET SO I WANTED TO COME AND MAKE SURE WE WERE GONNA KEEP MOVING IN THE DIRECTION HE KNOWS THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH COSTS.
UM, SO THAT IF YOU DID APPROVE US, WE WOULD WANT SIT DOWN WITH HIM AND GO OVER FEES AND DECISIONS AND GUARDRAIL BECAUSE OF COURSE HE'S GONNA WANT TO DO WHATEVER LOWERS THE OVERALL COST, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO WE WOULD JUST COME UP WITH WHAT THE FINAL DECISION WOULD BE ON BURN OR GUARDRAIL.
SO YOU NEED FROM US WHETHER OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO.
AND GUARD, I MAKE THE MOTION OPTION ONE.
MM-HMM
BECAUSE THE DRAINAGE IS GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR TRYING TO DO A BURNER, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S MY WITH ALL THE COSTS COMING FROM MR. RIGHT SECOND.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SECOND CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER MANNING, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANYBODY? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANYBODY NEED A BREAK RIGHT PAST Y'ALL? READY? KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
LET'S TRY TO BE BACK AT 12 O'CLOCK.
BACK, BACK TO WORK ON ITEM NUMBER 18.
UH, MR. MANNING HAD ASKED THAT WE DISCUSS THIS AND TOM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
I WOULD ASK THAT WE, UH, WOULD ACT ON, UH, IT'S GONNA BE AN, UH, AN APPOINTMENT.
I BELIEVE THE WAY THINGS ARE LOOKING AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO APPOINT SOMEBODY WHO'S ALREADY AN EMPLOYEE RIGHT.
RATHER THAN ADDING, RATHER THAN ADDING AN EMPLOYEE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND UH, ACT ON THIS WHERE WE COULD, UH, GO AHEAD AND START THE TRAINING AND PURCHASE THE, THE SHERIFF HAS AGREED TO, UH, FUND THE PURCHASE OF THE SCALE WHERE WE GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE THE TRAINING AND I BELIEVE THE CONSTABLES, THERE'S SOME CONSTABLES, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTY THAT ARE, THAT ARE WANTING TO GET IN ON THE TRAINING AND ALL THAT.
IF WE GET EIGHT PEOPLE IN THIS TRAINING, WE GOT ROOM FOR EIGHT PEOPLE IN THE TRAINING TO GET EIGHT PEOPLE TRAINED COUNTY WIDE.
WE CAN GO AROUND AND ROUND AND UH, IF SOMEBODY'S OFF, WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY GOING SO AROUND.
WELL, COMM MAN AND I HAVE UH, UM, CONSTABLE SANDERS HERE AND SO I TALK WITH BOTH OF THEM.
THEY WILLING TO TAKE THE CLASS, THE PROGRAM.
SO BOTH OF THOSE OFF TOP, WE NEED EIGHT PEOPLE TO BEFORE THEY WILL COME.
AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE WE GOT WITH, WITH CONSTABLE SANDERS, I BELIEVE WE AND BILL PLA AND HIS DEPUTY.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOUR DEPUTIES WOULD BE INTERESTED? YOU AND YOUR DEPUTY WOULD BE INTERESTED? YEAH, BECAUSE WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS SAME TYPE OF THING THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND, AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE, THERE ARE MANY LAWS THAT CAN BE ENFORCED DEALING WITH HEAVY COMMERCIAL TRUCKS OTHER THAN JUST WHA I MEAN THERE ARE OTHER, OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE INVOLVED THERE AND I KNOW JUST BASED ON COMMENTS I HEAR ABOUT HIGHWAY 34 AND, AND ALL OVER THE COUNTY THERE, BUT OTHER THINGS THAT SHOULD BE ENFORCED BY ANYBODY THAT'S TRAINED TO DO SO.
WELL WE, WE'D BASICALLY BE INTERESTED IN ENFORCING THE, THE STATE LAWS.
SO, UM, I WOULD MOVE THAT, UH, THAT, TO CLARIFY THIS, THAT WE, UH, WILL ACT ON APPOINTING A COMAN COUNTY COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AS WELL AS START THE TRAINING AS WELL AS JUST START THE TRAINING FOR THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL OTHER YES.
BUT TO BE, BE AN EXISTING PERSONNEL WE'VE ALREADY GOT LIKE CONSTABLE SANDERS HAS OFFERED DO.
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IT'S NOT A NEW POSITION.I THINK I EXPLAINED TO HIM IT'S NOT A RAISE, NOT A NEW POSITION.
WE DON'T GET RAISE, HE WON'T BE RECEIVING ANY MONEY FOR THIS, FOR THAT.
THE COURSE, THE COURSE IS FREE.
THAT'S WHAT I, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE SHERIFF FOR OFFERING, PURCHASING THE SCALES FOR US AND GIVING US A VEHICLE TO CARRY THOSE SCALES AROUND THEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, LA GO AHEAD.
IS THIS GOING TO BE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE THAT'S GONNA BE HIRED FOR THIS OR THERE GOTTA BE SOMEONE BROUGHT UP AT THIS POINT WE GET, WE GET THE PEOPLE TRAINED.
I I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO GROW INTO A FULL-TIME THING LATER ON, BUT AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE BALL ROLLING TO WHERE WE CAN START ENFORCING THAT SOME OF THESE LOCK.
BUT IS IT, IS THIS PERSON GONNA UH, COME FROM A FULL-TIME POSITION OR A PART-TIME POSITION? I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT THAT FAR AT AT THIS POINT.
I DON'T KNOW AT THIS WE JUST KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUT AND HIRE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON.
AND UH, BUT I, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE READY TO EVEN GO TO THAT POINT YET.
BUT MY, MY BELIEF IS, UH, IS ONCE WE GET THE TRAINING DONE, GET THE SCALES BOUGHT AND GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO START THAT IT WOULD BE A FULL-TIME POSITION.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NEED FOR A FULL-TIME POSITION.
IT'LL EVOLVE INTO THAT, BUT IT WOULDN'T START OFF AS THAT.
NOT INITIALLY THAT WAY AT LEAST.
WELL I THINK Y'ALL MISSING WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
THE PERSON HIRED SO APPOINTED TO THAT POSITION.
IS SHE GONNA BE A FULL-TIME PERSON NOW OR IS SHE GONNA BE A PART-TIME OR RESERV? WELL, I, I REITERATE THAT AT THIS POINT I'M NOT FAR ENOUGH ALONG ON IT TO, TO KNOW MY ORIGINAL PLAN, UH, WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS WAS TO HAVE A, A FULL TIME GUY DOING IT.
BUT AT THIS POINT WE'RE, SINCE WE'RE GONNA APPOINT SOMEBODY, UH, TO DO IT AND WE'RE GOING TO TRAIN SEVERAL PEOPLE TO DO IT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
AND, AND, UH, WOULD, WOULD IT BE SOMETHING YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN BEING APPOINTED TO THAT LARRY? I ALREADY PUT IN ABOUT 50 TO 51 HOURS A WEEK, SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO TRY THAT.
IF YOU'LL COME AND RIDE WITH HIM, JUST WE GOING APPOINT THAT'S CORRECT.
IT HELPS OUR PLANNING IN THE FUTURE BY SAYING WE ARE GOING TO APPOINT AND AS WELL AS PROVIDE GET THE TRAINING FOR AS MANY AS EIGHT PEOPLE.
DENTON COUNTY, WHICH IS AGREED TO DO THAT.
AS FAR AS IT GOES RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT HIRING ANYBODY.
SO EVEN IF YOU APPOINT SOMEONE, IT'D PROBABLY BE SOMEONE TO TAKE OUTTA THEIR CLASS.
WELL, OUTTA EIGHT PEOPLE, LET'S TAKE THE CLASS.
OR IF IT WORKS BETTER TO DO IT ON A ROTATING BASIS WHERE EVERYBODY GETS SOME, SOME EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, LIKE MY CONSTABLES ARE ARE PLENTY BUSY AND JOE DON'S BUSY AND LARRY LARRY'S BUSY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A ROTATING SCHEDULE WHERE THEY, AND THEY ALL GET TRAINED.
THEY COME PICK UP THE VEHICLE ON THE SCALES.
WELL THE REASON I ASK MY CONS BECAUSE I KNOW I GOT, I GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH LOW WEIGHT TRUCKS.
I GOT A TRUCKING PROBLEM BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CLOSE BY IF I CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL, TAKE PRETTY THAT, THAT'S JUST WHY I WANT TO GET THIS BALL ROLLING COUNCIL.
YEAH, WELL THE REASON WHY I WAS INQUIRING ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT OR HIRING OF A, UH, RESERVE OR A PART-TIME GUY, IT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT TO DO THAT WITH MY EMPLOYEE AND MYSELF.
JOE DONS TAKING THAT 4.4% DROP IN PAY AND HIRE HIM IN WITH THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GIVING BACK TO THE COUNTY.
THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
WHEN WE APPOINT, IF WE, IF WE TRADE EIGHT PEOPLE, MAYBE WE APPOINT ALL EIGHT OF 'EM BE WAITING OFFICERS.
BUT I THAT'S, AND THEY COULD TWO COULD WORK OVER HERE FOR A WHILE AND TWO COULD WORK OVER HERE FOR A WHILE OR WHATEVER.
I, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT.
HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, UH, FURLOUGH DAYS ANYWAY.
AND I'M SORRY, ARE YOU APPOINTING SOMEONE RIGHT NOW? NO, NOT RIGHT NOW.
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POSITION.WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
WE'RE NOT ABLE, WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT A POSITION AS COLLIN COUNTY AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLE BOARD AND POSITION.
SO YOU'RE NOT CREATING A POSITION YOU'RE GOING TO APPOINT, WE'RE GONNA APPOINT, WE'RE NOT CREATING A NEW JOB.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS TO MAKE THE TRAIN.
WE'RE LIKE I SAY ALL, IF WE TRAINED EIGHT PEOPLE, MAY WE APPOINT ALL EIGHT OF 'EM, BE WAIT OFFICERS.
ALONG WITH THEIR OTHER DUTIES ALONG WITH OTHER 61 HOURS.
AND THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THERE'S, WE KNOW THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE THE TRAINING, SO THERE'S NO REASON TO DELAY THIS PROCESS BY NOT GOING AHEAD AND GETTING THE TRAINING DONE AND WE'LL JUST NEED TO PUBLICIZE THE SORT KNOW TRAINING OFFERED.
DO WE HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU PUT THAT IN FORM OF MOTION? YES SIR.
COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND LARGE, YOU GET THIS DOWN.
YOU THINK I MOTION TO APPROVE APPOINTMENT OF THE COPPER COUNTY COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AS WELL AS START TRAINING FOR EIGHT PEOPLE TO INCLUDE EXISTING CONSTABLES.
PROBABLY SHOULD SAY A MINIMUM OF EIGHT.
YOU SAID ADDITIONAL CONSTABLES.
WHAT WAS THE LAST PART? UH, WHAT HE SAID.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE THE COURT.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 19 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON SHARING OF ROAD AND BRIDGE EMPLOYEES IN LIEBE OF REPLACING EMPLOYEES IN PRECINCT TWO.
AND COMMISSIONER CLARK HAD ASKED FOR TO DO THAT.
I PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, UH, THAT, UH, KIND OF GET OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC PART.
WE HAD LAST WEEK I HAD SIX GUYS WORKING.
WHERE WAS, WHAT WERE THEY DOING? WHERE WAS IT? WHERE THEY'RE WORKING AT.
THEY WEREN'T WORKING ON YOUR ROADS.
DID THEY? AND ORIGINALLY, ORIGINALLY GONNA PUT ON THE AGENDA TO HIRE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.
HOWEVER, WE TALKED WITH THE JUDGE AND DECIDED THAT THIS LEADING BY EXAMPLE IS KILLING ME.
CUTTING OUR BUDGET, CUTTING OUR PERSONNEL BACK.
HOWEVER, I WANNA MAKE A DIRECT PLEA TO YOU GUYS AND FOR EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR WHATEVER TO TRY TO SHARE EMPLOYEES, TRY TO BORROW SOME HELP OR WHATEVER.
Y'ALL HAVE BEEN REAL GOOD ABOUT HELPING.
I'M NOT GOING TO HIRE ANYBODY.
I I'M HIRE ANYBODY I WANT GET BY WITH WHATEVER I GET BY WITH.
BUT I'M GOING RELY YOU GUYS TO CALL EVERY NOW AND THEN AND IF YOU CAN OKAY.
SEND ME SOME HELP ON, ON THOSE DAYS THAT I NEED SOME HELP.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON WAS TALKING ABOUT SOME EQUIPMENT THE OTHER DAY.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A BROOM TO DO CELL CUTTING WITH.
I TOLD HIM SAID, YOU DON'T BUY A BROOM.
I SAID, YOU ANYTIME THAT YOU NEED A BROOM.
I SAID, YOU CALL, I'LL SEND MY BROOM, MY TRUCK, MY GUY WEAR SWEEP BOARD.
BECAUSE HE'S GONNA USE THAT THING 10 DAYS THIS YEAR.
WHY WOULD HE WANNA SPEND 40, $50,000 FOR A PIECE OF HIS EQUIPMENT THAT'S GONNA USE 10 TIMES WHAT I'VE GOT.
THAT'S, I'VE GOT, WE'D LIKE TO RECIPROCATE THAT AND IT'S, AND LIKE GET EVERYBODY ELSE TRY ON THAT SAME PAGE, TRYING TO SHARE SOME HELP.
I, I DON'T MIND DOING THAT, BUT I, I'M, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I GOT ALL MY GUYS POPPING AND POPPING AID EVERY DAY AND UH, UNLESS IT RAINS DOWN HERE, IT DOESN'T RAIN ON AT YOUR PRECINCT, YOU KNOW, I'D BE GLAD TO DO IT, BUT MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE GUYS, UH, WILL YOU NEED WHAT, FOUR AT A TIME OR SIX AT A TIME? IT MIGHT VARY OR PROB THE ONLY, ONLY MEETING THAT I COULD PROBABLY SEE WOULD BE LIKE OVER SEAL CODE.
I MIGHT NEED A TRUCK, A TRUCK DRIVER OR TWO.
OTHERWISE IT'LL TAKE ME AND I DON'T MIND IF IT TAKES ME FOUR DAYS TO DO A ONE DAY JOB, IT JUST TAKES, I'VE ALREADY TOLD MY, MY SECRETARY ASSISTANT AND MY SUPERVISOR, HE'S GONNA BE DRIVING A TRUCK.
I'LL BE ON A PIECE OF MACHINERY.
MY SECRETARY IS GONNA BE OUT THERE FLAGGING TRAFFIC.
IF THAT'S WHAT TAKES GET IT DONE, SHE'D BE HAPPY IF IT WAS ON HER ROAD, WHICH IS IN MY PRECINCT,
MOST OF MY PEOPLE LIVE SOUTH OF CAMP AND I GOT ONE THAT LIVES, UH, NEARLY THE A AND UH, THEY EXPRESSED LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT DRIVING THE CORNER.
THEY SAID, WELL HOW MANY TIMES A, A WEEK OR A DAY OR A MONTH OR WHATEVER.
I'LL FIND OUT AND LET YOU KNOW.
SO THIS, THIS, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE FOR ROAD GRADING.
THIS WOULD BE LIKE ON A DAY WHEN WE'RE CHIP SEALING CHIP OR STABILIZATION OR SOMETHING SUCH AS THAT.
AND IF YOU'RE, IF I, IF YOU'RE DOING THE SAME JOB, I'M DOING IT
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SAME DAY, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE WE ARE ON REDUCTION IN FORCE.
WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE LEAVE THE EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY, UH, SINCE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR THAT WE'VE NOT REPLACED.
AND I HAVE TALKED, HOW ABOUT IT THIS MORNING AND, AND HOPEFULLY AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WHERE WE ARE THROUGH THE END OF MARCH 31ST.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE SOME VACANCIES NOW THAT WE'VE NOT REFILLED.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS BEING A PART OF THE ATTRITION.
UH, AND UH, MY HOPE IS, IS THAT AS THAT CONTINUES, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, ASSIST OUR BUDGET TO THE POINT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY LAB, ANY LAYOFFS.
AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF GETTING OUR BUDGET SITUATION UNDER CONTROL IS, IS NOT FILLING THE, THE VACANT POSITION.
NOW THAT'S SOMETIMES A LOT EASIER SAID THAN DONE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME POSITIONS THAT YOU DO HAVE TO FILL, BUT SO FAR EVERYBODY'S BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHERE WE CAN SHARE POSITIONS, THAT IS HUGE FOR US.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK, UH, THAT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RAY'S TALKING ABOUT.
SO, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU THAT AND I THINK YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED THAT NUMBER POSITIONS THAT LET'S DO WHATEVER WE CAN.
WE GOT ONE GUY OFF OUR WORKER'S COMP NOW WE'VE
YEAH, WE WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO YOU.
SO I, IT GOES IN ANY OF THE COMMISSIONS IF WE CAN HELP.
I HAD THAT MECHANIC SHOWED GOOD.
I THINK I SEEN HIM SOMEWHERE EVERYWHERE.
BUT UH, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO TRY TO HELP EACH OTHER.
YOU'VE BEEN REAL GOOD ABOUT LETTING AND THAT CERTAINLY SETS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THE, SEND A GOOD MESSAGE TO THE EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO I DUNNO WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING NEED TO ACT ON.
WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT, BUT I HAVE ANY REASON TO ACT ON THAT.
SO Y'ALL, EVERYBODY'S ON KIND OF THE SAME PAGE ON THAT.
THIS NEXT ONE IS PUT ON THE COMM COMMISSIONER ROUND ASKED THAT WE DISCUSSED AND ACT ON APPROVING THE REPAIR OF FRONT END LOADER PRECINCT ONE ROAD BRIDGE.
YEAH, WE HAD A, WE HAD A, A LOADER THAT WENT DOWN ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO, ACTUALLY A LONG TIME AGO.
AND, UH, WE TOOK IT OVER AND THEY FIXED IT FOR PRACTICALLY NOTHING.
AND WHEN WE WENT OVER TO PICK IT UP, THEY COULDN'T EVEN BACK IT UP ON THE TRAILER.
THEY KEPT IT AND THEY REDID THE TRANSMISSION AND IT WORKED OUT FINE.
IT'S, UH, THE REASON I'M BRING IT IS BECAUSE IT'S OVER $20,000, 20, $30,000 WHOLE THING.
SO, AND OBVIOUSLY A IS ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE OF THE, SO IT'S ON THERE AND IT'S FIXED.
YOU WANT TO, OH, YOU'VE ALREADY, I'M LIKE AT T I'VE ALREADY DONE THIS.
WE DO NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS, I BELIEVE.
JERRY, DO YOU WANT YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, ALLOW THIS COMMISSIONER TO FIX THAT.
GET THAT, UH, FRONT MOTOR FOOT.
GET HIM A LITTLE DELIRIOUS HERE WITHOUT FOOD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
YES, BUT IT WAS A DELAYED RESPONSE.
ALL, UH, ITEM 21 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING AMENDED BOND FOR LAURA HUGHES, OUR COUNTY CLERK.
UH, BEFORE WE START THAT ONE, THE EMPLOYEE SHARING WAS JUST A DISCUSSION.
UM, MY, MY BOND, THE ORIGINAL BOND WAS WRITTEN FOR THREE YEARS AND WE HAD IT RESUBMITTED FOR FOUR YEARS.
A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER ROBIN.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM TRANSFER WITH MY FAVORITE SUBJECT.
LINE TRANSFER IN THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT AREA TO
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COURT DO BECAUSE THEY WENT UP.EMPLOYEE PROTESTING, REPLACEMENT OFFICER PROTESTING AND COST FOR THAT.
JP TWO MOVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS IN DUES OFFICE SUPPLIES.
CONSTABLE JUAN MOVED A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO DUE BONDS PRECINCT TWO.
1100 OUT OF UNIFORMS. 600 WILL DO EQUIPMENT.
THE REST OF THESE ARE NOT COUNTY, UH, ARE NOT GENERAL FUND DA ASSET OR FUND.
UM, MOVING 8,000 LOST FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT TO MISCELLANEOUS, WHICH IS HIS BIG CATEGORY.
UH, VOTER REGISTRATION MOVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS FROM NEW EQUIPMENT TO TRAINING, EDUCATION CONFERENCE, JUVENILE PROBATION.
MOVED 2000 FROM MISCELLANEOUS TO NONRESIDENTIAL SERVICE AND ALL STAR LIBRARY.
ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE CERTIFICATION, ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND PROBATION.
43 30 $5 FOR SECURE PLACEMENT.
AND THEN THE
UH, RECOGNIZING $21,411 AND 24 CENTS RECEIVED FROM THE STATE AND BUDGETING THAT.
HAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR OFFICER.
HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? RECOMMENDED APPROVE MOTION.
DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A ITEM NUMBER 23 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON.
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KIRBY SMITH? THERE USED TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO THEY USED TO BE.DID THEY COME OUT ON SITE? DO THEY FIGURED THAT? NO, THEY CAN'T PICK IT UP.
CARRY, WE COULDN'T LOAD IT UP TO BRING IT BACK HERE FOR THE NEXT MINUTES.
YOU GONNA HAVE ANOTHER IT COMMITTEE THAT I GUESS THE PRECINCT IN MARCH, MARCH 25TH.
IT COULD, IF THERE'S A COUNTYWIDE POLICY, IT'S GOTTA BE CARRIED AWAY.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S GONNA RIGHTS SAYS ALL DOWNLOAD COME TO COURT.
THEY WELL YOU DEVICE TO USE IT, BUT YOU CAN'T, THE USER GOTTA GO BACK.
I SAID WHAT? I CAN YOU CAN, YOU CAN LOCK SOME, BUT I GUESS IT'S ALREADY SAID.
BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS THAT SAYS DISCUSSION.
I'M SORRY
WE HAVE A FREE BID SCHEDULED TODAY, UH, ON THE COUNTY CLEANUP LAST TIME AND WE DIDN'T GET IT, UH, POSTED.
SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE NO MORE THAN TWO COMMISSIONERS,
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UH, AT THE MEETING.SO I, I KNOW TOMMY'S GOT A MEETING RIGHT AFTER THAT ONE, SO HE DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE.
SO I KNOW WHETHER YOU GENTLE OR NOT.
FOR WHAT TIME RIGHT NOW? TWO O'CLOCK.
I'M THINKING IT'S JUST MR. BROWN DIDN'T KNOW, HADN'T MEETING TODAY.
WELL, THEY COULD SEND SOMEONE.
YOU KNOW IF SOMEONE FROM YOUR PRECINCT, IF YOU WANT, HAVE YOU GOT A WRONG GUY THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE BE THERE FOR? I DON'T ANY OF SEE YOU.
YOU WORK WITH THE CITY TOO? YEAH, I, I'LL PROBABLY BE THERE TWO.
YOU SEND SOMEBODY I DON'T HAVE, I'LL SEND SOMEBODY.
IS THERE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY OR DO THEY HAVE ANYBODY? WELL, WHAT DO YOU DO ON, ON YOUR DAY? YOUR CLINIC.
WHAT'S GOING ON? I SAID I DON'T MIND SHOWING UP.
DON'T CONJUNCTION, CONJUNCTION THEY CLOSING.
MOST OF THE TIME I THINK THEIR DRIVERS WERE BACK ON TIME.
READY TO HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL IN FAVOR? YOUR OVERWHELMING JERRY SAYS IF WE'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH.