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THEY ACCUSED ME OF, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THESE COURT MEETINGS OR LIKE SCHOOL HOUSE, YOU KNOW, PARTY PERMIT, STUFF LIKE THAT.
MAKE, I MIGHT GET AN EXCUSED HARD PERMIT, I GUESS.
WELL, IF I MISS, DO I HAVE TO GET A NOTE FROM MY MOTHER? YES.
WELL, THANKS TO EVERYBODY, UH, FOR ATTENDING TODAY'S COURT MEETING.
UH, WE CALL THIS LATE, UH, FRIDAY AFTERNOON BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WE NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE NEXT WEEK, REGULAR COURT MEETING.
AND SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE ON SHORT NOTICE.
UH, SOME OF THIS IS KIND OF ROUTINE, BUT SOME OF IT IS NOT.
AND SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING FOR THE ORDER.
I THINK WE'LL DISPENSE WITH THE OPENING OF CEREMONIES, BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE LLOYD COOK, WHO IS BACK WITH US TODAY.
LLOYD HAD, UH, PRETTY SERIOUS HEART SURGERY, WHAT, SIX WEEKS AGO NOW? OR MAY 3RD.
AND HE'S 25 POUNDS LIGHTER, SO I THINK THAT'S A HECK WAY TO DO IT, BUT LORD, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK BACK.
HEY, LORD, WHEN I HAD MY LITTLE HEART SURGERY, I, I LOST 10 POUNDS AND I GAINED IT BACK IN TWO DAYS.
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS ISSUE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW, AND I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO GET IT GLASS OLD, BUT THAT IS THE, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY REDISTRICTING, UH, COMMISSIONER PRECINCT BOUNDARIES.
AND, UH, WE PUT THAT ON THE, THE DISCUSS AND ACT.
AND, UH, I KNOW COMMISSIONER ROWDEN AND, UH, UH, MR. MANNING HAD, UH, TALKED A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE THEIRS WORK.
AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE IN THAT REGARD.
YOU PARTICIPATING WITH THEM ON THAT OR NOT? WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF NUMBERS OF POPULATION AS WELL AS ROAD MILES, WHICH CERTAINLY IS A PART OF THAT.
SO I'LL JUST CATCH YOU UP TODAY.
WE, TOM AND I EMAILED HER THIS MORNING EARLY, AND WE NEVER DID HEAR ANYTHING BACK.
SO WE CALLED, UH, UH, PICK STAFF AND GOT HER NUMBER WHERE SHE WAS.
WE HAD HER CELL PHONE, BUT SHE WENT PICKING UP ON IT.
SO WE, I CALLED HER BACK AND TALKED TO HER ABOUT IT.
AND WHAT I ASKED HER WAS IF SHE WOULD, SHE, YOU KNOW, ON HERE, SHE SAID THAT PRECINCT ONE BE, UH, OUT OF, UH, COMPLIANCE IF WE KEPT OAK GROVE IN THERE.
AND WE CAN'T, WE CANNOT NOT HAVE OAK GROVE IN, IN THE PRECINCT ONE.
UH, TOM AND I, NEITHER ONE REMEMBERED THAT SHE EVER HAD PRECINCT ONE IN FOUR.
OH, GROVE IN PERSON FOUR, I MEAN, YEAH.
SO ANYWAY, I TALKED TO HER ABOUT IT TODAY AND I ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD EMAIL ME A MAP SHOWING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW WHEN IT'S OUT OF COMPLIANCE, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD I NEED TO GIVE UP TO GET BACK IN COMPLIANCE, AND TO ALSO GIVE ME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED IN A BUNCH OF THOSE LITTLE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
THAT'S THE WAY WE THOUGHT IT WAS.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST PLAN.
PLAN A, BUT THEN IT ENDED UP LIKE THIS, AND NEITHER ONE OF US NOTED THAT THIS NOTICE THAT THIS PART WAS, WAS IN FOUR.
WE KNEW THAT THIS PART SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN FOUR.
BUT ANYWAY, EVIDENTLY WAS, I STILL DON'T REMEMBER BEING IN FORD.
BUT ANYWAY, SHE'S GONNA EMAIL THAT AS QUICKLY AS SHE CAN.
AND TOM, AND I'LL GET TOGETHER AS SOON WE GET THAT, HOPEFULLY GET THIS WORKED OUT.
SO THE ISSUE IS IF, IF YOU, IF OLD GROVE IS NOT IN YOUR PRECINCT, UH, THAT GIVES TOM THE POPULATION THAT HE NEEDS, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
EVIDENTLY, IT WAS, SHE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TOM'S.
SHE JUST SAID, IF OLD GROVE WAS PUT BACK IN THE MINE, IT PUT ME AT 16 POINT.
YEAH, IT GIVES YOU TOO MUCH POPULATION AND TOM DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT, I DUNNO HOW THAT'S GONNA BE FIXED.
UH, TOM AND I HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT AREAS, AREAS THAT WE CAN, THAT I CAN GIVE UP, BUT I, I JUST DON'T THINK IT CAN HAPPEN WITH OAK GROVE NOT BEING IN CO IN PRECINCT ONE.
THAT JUST, THE ONLY CONCERN I WOULD'VE IF IT'S NOT IN PRECINCT, IF IT STAYS IN PRECINCT FOUR.
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AND, AND YOU MOVED IT BACK TO PRECINCT ONE, WHICH IS AN ISSUE WITH THE POPULATION AND HE TAKES OFF PART OF THE, UH, EASTERN PART OF PRECINCT ONE I, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE GONNA PICK UP A TON OF MILES, ROAD MILES AND NOT MUCH POPULATION.I MEAN, AND THAT PRETTY WELL
NOW THE POPULATION OF HEARTLAND GOES TO ONE.
THAT'S WHERE THE KICKER COMES IN AT PLAN A ONLY INCREASED YOUR ROAD MILES BY JUST A FRACTION.
MATTER OF FACT, YOU'D HAVE LESS ROAD MILES IN PLAN A THAN YOU WOULD'VE IN PLANT B BY A LOT.
SO IF WE WENT BACK TO PLAN A, HERE'S PLAN A, AND IT STILL SHOWS, UH, ALL OF THAT OLD GROVE IN PRECINCT ONE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS MORNING.
WE WERE THINKING THAT SHE MUST HAVE MADE A MISTAKE.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS MORNING.
I REMEMBERED THAT, THAT THEY SAW PRECINCT ONE IN, UH, THE DIFFERENCE.
I MEAN, THE HEARTLAND OVER HERE OFFSET THE POPULATION OF BOAT GROVE.
AND THAT'S WHAT THREW YOU OUT KILTER WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE IN.
WHERE YOU GOING TO TAKE IN HEARTLAND HARLAND WAS GONNA BE, IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT PLAN, I GUESS THAT'S, I KNOW WE HAVE TO DO.
WELL, I THINK THE ONLY ISSUE THAT Y'ALL, THAT WAS THE, UH, BECKER, THE BECKER THING, WHICH DIDN'T INVOLVE MILES POPULATION.
WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WE WERE EVEN TALKING ABOUT OPEN, WE WERE DISCUSSING BECKER.
THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING MIXED.
BUT SHE SAID MAP OAK ROAD WAS IN PRECINCT FOUR.
THE ONE SHE DREW UP LAST, I THINK WHAT I THINK WHAT CONFUSED YOU WAS THEY HAD THESE RED LINE STEEL THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS IN ONE.
YEAH, BUT HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT IS THIS RAY? IS THIS A, THAT'S A, THAT'S ORIGINAL ON ONE EIGHT.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN A, YEAH, ANYWAY, SHE SAID IT WAS 1500 POPULATION IN OAK GROVE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.
YEAH, THERE WAS LITTLE, LITTLE CHAIN IN PRECINCT THREE.
SO IF YOU GO BACK TO EIGHT, GOING AFFECT JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I PICKED UP, WELL, YOU CAN STILL USE A, WITH, WITH THAT LITTLE PIECE OF B ISN'T THERE? AND IT WOULDN'T THROW THINGS OUT KIL.
THAT'S A CITY THAT, UH, YOU COULD USE YOUR OAK BRIDGE.
WE HAD TO PICK UP OAK BRIDGE AND KING PRECINCT BRIDGE.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE CITY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK BE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN START WITH? YEAH, SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
EVERYBODY IN THERE GOT ADDRESSES AND GOES TO SCHOOL.
SO MAYBE IF WE GO BACK TO MAP A WOULD BE OKAY, BUT, BUT IF YOU INCLUDE THE PIECE OF PRECINCT THREE, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CHANGE.
WHAT THIS DOES IS, WHAT A DOES IS LEAVE TOGO IN THE BACK ALL THE WAY TO CRANDALL AGAIN GOING ALL THE WAY TO I 20.
WELL, YOU WANT ALL THE WAY TO I 20.
WELL, MEAN YOU WENT ALL THE WAY TO, UH, THE COUNTY LINE ANYWAY.
BUT GOING DOWN 20 FROM WHERE PLANT A AND PLANT BS AT, YOU WILL PICK UP, UH, MAYBE TWO MILES OF IMPROVED ROADS.
ONE OF 'EM STRAIGHT DIRT ROAD, THE PALMER ROAD, THERE'S DIRT.
ONE IS A ROCK ROAD WITH ONE HOUSE ON IT.
YOU'LL PICK UP ONE MILE OF SEAL COAT ROAD AND TWO HALF MILE, QUARTER MILE SEAL COAT ROADS.
BUT AT B, YOU GONNA PICK UP A LOT OF COUNTY ROADS BACK DOWN INTO THAT.
NOW ON B, YOU SEE IT WAS BACK DOWN THERE WE GO, A BUNCH OF ROADS IN THERE.
OAK GROVE WAS IN FOUR AND B, BUT IT WASN'T IN A, I THINK WE'LL GO BACK AND TRY TO WORK BACK FROM THIS THING AND JUST SEE WE, BUT ANYWAY, SHE'S FAXING ME, UH, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT IT AND GIVING ME SOME POPULATION.
SO TOM, AND I'LL GET WITH IT AND I HOPE IT COMES TOMORROW, BUT, UM, WE CAN'T DO OUR PART TODAY.
WELL, MAYBE JOHN CAN HELP US GET YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A, I THINK BOTH A AND B ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
BOTH ARE UNDER THE MAGIC 10% NUMBER.
AND, AND SO, UM, SO, SO THE CONCERN WAS THAT I SAW, BECAUSE I HAD SEEN, UH, AN EMAIL FROM, UH, FROM SHERRY TO YOU OR TO SOMEONE SAYING THAT IT'S 16% IF, IF THE CHANGE THAT YOU HAD SUGGESTED MAKE.
SO YEAH, I MEAN THAT, THAT JUST CAN'T BE DONE.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 10% IS A BUST.
IF, IF YOU HIT THAT, THEN WELL, I HOPE WE GO BACK AND WORK IT UNTIL THE MATH WORKS.
I HOPE I SHE DOES THAT TOMORROW THOUGH.
THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO MOVE DO IS, YOU KNOW, MOVING ALONG BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THESE HEARINGS SCHEDULED AND ALL THAT.
AND I HAVE THE MATERIALS, UH, IN PLACE THAT I CAN GIVE TO YOU TO GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO A SCRIPT OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
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AND, OKAY.AND, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED TO DO NEXT MONDAY AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING, ASSUMING WE CAN GET THIS ISSUE WORKED OUT? UH, YEAH.
I MEAN, YOU CAN HOLD THE HEARINGS AS, AS SOON AS YOU'D LIKE, BUT I MEAN, WE, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING SET PUBLIC HEARINGS OR NOT.
YOU CAN HAVE IT AS, AS PART OF THE POST.
I MEAN, YOU CAN DECIDE TO POST IT FOR NEXT WEEK.
WELL, WE COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING NEXT WEEK.
YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE MORE NOTICE THAN THIS.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS, UH, LIKE 10 DAYS NOTICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I, I'LL, I'LL GO BACK AND CHECK IF WE COULD DO IT.
I MEAN, OUR NEXT MEETING IS AN EVENING MEETING, SO THAT MAKES, WOULD YOU PREFER TO DO THAT? WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD 'CAUSE PEOPLE THAT WE, WE HAVE A REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMISSIONER'S MEETING THAT'S OUR EVENING, YOU KNOW, OUR QUARTERLY EVENING MEETING.
AND IT JUST SEEMED TO ME ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO COME TO THAT HEARING, IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR THEM TO COME TO AN EVENING MEETING RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, A MIDDLE OF THE DAY HERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET ALL THE, ALL OF IT SCHEDULED BY THEN.
BUT DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A LEGAL NOTICE IN THE PAPER AND ALL THAT? I, I DUNNO.
WE FIND THAT OUT THEN IF WE FYI, Y'ALL, I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
Y HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE PAPER.
WE'RE PUTTING THIS WEEK'S ISSUE TOGETHER TOMORROW.
SO, I MEAN, IF YOU GET, HEY, WE NEED SOMETHING, IT HAD TO BE IN THE PAPER BEFORE THE MEETING, THEY WOULD'VE TO, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE THE ADD BY TOMORROW MORNING.
LIKE, WELL, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU AS SOON AS JERRY AND I HERE GET WORD ON THIS THING, WE'RE GOING BE ON THIS DEAL.
WELL, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, IT MIGHT PUSH YOU BACK A WEEK.
WE DON'T MAKE, IF IT DOES, WE HAVE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL BE ON IT.
BUT JOHN CAN FIND OUT AND WE'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT WE GET THAT PART OF PRECINCT THREE STREET.
SO THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.
IS THAT THE ONLY CHANGE BETWEEN, I MEAN YOUR PRECINCT, THE CHANGE, THE CHANGES IN YOUR PRECINCT? THE ONLY CHANGE IN D THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO STAY KEY? YEAH.
SO YOU WANT IT GO, POPULATION OF SOMETHING WOULD RATE UP IN PRECINCT TWO OR SOMETHING.
SO YOU WANT YOURS AND RAY'S NEEDS TO STAY THE SAME AS B, BUT THEIRS NEEDS TO GO BACK TO A CORRECT MAYBE, RIGHT? YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO TWO THAT WHAT IT IS.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL JUST GONNA HAVE TO SEE HOW YOU WANT PROVIDE THAT OTHER PART I POPULATE.
ONLY OTHER THING WE CAN DO IS BE IN PRECINCT FOUR TOGETHER.
JUST SOME I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN GET INTO.
I DON'T WANT THAT CONVENIENCE STATION
ANYBODY DO WE NEED A MOTION TO JUST, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION, OTHER DISCUSS, OR JUST NO ACTION REALLY STATE NO ACTION ON IT.
AND, UH, WE TAKE NO ACTION ON, UH, ITEM TWO.
MOTION, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY.
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ONE THAT WE HAD INTENDED ON DISCUSSING LAST WEEK.
AND WE HAD A CLOSED SESSION AND DECIDED IT PROBABLY NEEDED TO BE IN A OPEN SESSION DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT INVOLVED TALKING ABOUT, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE, NOT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL.
BUT AS PART OF THAT, I MADE YOU A COPY OF WHERE WE'RE, UH, PAYROLL ACCOUNT.
AS OF, UH, JOHN PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR JUNE THE THIRD.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT, BE SOME COPIES OUT IN THE, BUT AS OF, UH, JUNE THE THIRD, WE HAVE A TOTAL IN OF 533 EMPLOYEES.
499 OF THOSE ARE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND 34 OF THEM ARE, UH, PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
SO YOU'LL SEE A REDUCTION ABOUT NINE PEOPLE SINCE THE 25TH.
SO MOST OF THOSE, OF COURSE, ABOUT NORMAL ATTRITION.
AND, UH, SO I TALKED TO, YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT.
WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE AS A GOAL, UH, TO HELP US WITH OUR FINANCES IS NO MORE THAN 500 TOTAL EMPLOYEES FULLY PART-TIME.
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GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES AND INCLUDES ROAD BRIDGE NUMBERS.THAT INCLUDES ANYBODY THAT DRAWS COUNTY PAYCHECK.
SO, UH, WE WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS, BUT WE MAY NOT GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE BY THE TIME THE NEW BUDGET STARTED.
SO IN THAT REGARD, IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF A PROPOSAL, I'VE GOT EXTRA COPIES.
THERE'S, I THOUGHT I PUT THAT ON THE PAPER, BUT MAYBE, UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES ACROSS THE STATE THAT ARE DOING THIS AS A REDUCTION IN FORCE.
ANY POLICY, AND THIS WOULD KIND OF BE A ONE TIME DEAL FOR US, HOPEFULLY.
UH, AND IT'S CALLED THE 2011 INCENTIVE PROGRAM TO DESIGN ORLEY FIRE.
LEMME JUST READ THROUGH THESE.
AND JOHN'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN HELPING KIND OF WORK THROUGH THIS.
AND NOTHING ON THIS PAGE IS MAGIC.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE NEED TO GET STARTED FAIRLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY SOON SO WE CAN START, UH, FINDING OUT WHAT PEOPLE'S PLANS ARE.
SO AS WE PLAN FOR OUR NEW YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, ONE, UH, ALL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WITH OVER TWO WITH, UH, OVER TWO YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT WITH COFFMAN COUNTY ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE.
NUMBER TWO, NO PART-TIME TEMPORARY, SEASONAL AND OR PROBATIONARY EMPLOYEES ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE.
NUMBER THREE, INCENTIVES WILL BE OFFERED TO THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FOLLOWING AMOUNTS.
AND YOU'LL SEE FROM ZERO TO TWO YEARS, THERE'S NO INCENTIVE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE WE WOULD NOT OFFER THEM ANY KIND OF INCENTIVE.
AND WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO YEARS, I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO FULL YEARS HAVE BEEN EMPLOY, YOU KNOW, THEY'D HAVE TO, FROM THE TIME THEY WERE HIRED TO THE TIME THEY, UH, WOULD LEAVE, IT WOULD BE TO TWO FULL YEARS.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE SAME SCENARIO UNDER THE OTHER, UH, LIMITS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE.
WE WOULD, UH, UH, UNDER THIS PROPOSAL, AND AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING SAID IN CONCRETE ABOUT THIS, WE WOULD GIVE, UH, THOSE EMPLOYEES, UH, A THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, SEVEN TO 10 YEARS, UH, 2011 TO 15 YEARS, $4,000, UH, 16 TO 20 YEARS, 6,000 BUCKS.
THEN ANYBODY THAT HAS 21 PLUS YEARS, WE GIVE THEM AN 8,000 CHECK TO RESIGN OR RETIREMENT.
UH, NUMBER FOUR, AND LET'S GO THROUGH THE REST OF THESE BECAUSE THAT KIND OF TIES BACK INTO THESE, THESE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS HERE.
NUMBER FOUR, PAYMENTS WILL BE MADE UPON RECEIPT AND APPROVAL OF SIGNING THE RESIGNATION DOCUMENT BY THE COUNTY TREASURER AND THE COUNTY JUDGE.
AND UPON FINAL RESIGNATION, UH, NUMBER FIVE, EXECUTED RESIGNATION, RETIREMENT DOCUMENTS MUST BE RECEIVED BY JULY THE 15TH, 2011 TO BE CONSIDERED UNDER THIS PROGRAM.
IF WE APPROVE THIS, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR APPROVAL TODAY, I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA OFFICIALLY FOR NEXT MONDAY.
UH, WE WOULD START JUNE THE 15TH OR BEFORE.
AND, UH, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BY JULY THE 15TH.
NUMBER SIX EMPLOYEE THAT RESIGNS OR RETIRED.
THOUGH THIS PROGRAM, IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REHIRING WITH ANY DEPARTMENT IN COUNTY IN THE TWO YEAR PERIOD IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE RESIGNATION DATE.
NUMBER SEVEN, AN EMPLOYEE THAT RESIGNS AND RETIRES UNDER THIS PROGRAM SHALL FULLY AND FINALLY RELEASE COUNTY FROM ANY LIABILITY, SHALL WAIVE ANY CLAIMS TO FUTURE COMPENSATION OF NATURE IN INCLUDING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AND ANY AND OTHER, ALL OTHER FUTURE WAGES AND OR BENEFITS.
NUMBER EIGHT, THE IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE REDUCTION IN FORCE INCENTIVE POLICY SHALL BE MADE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WITH THE EFFECTIVE ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT HEAD, INCLUDING THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF ANY RESIGNATION.
AND THEN NUMBER NINE, THE REDUCTION IN FORCE OF SEMI POLICY WILL BE ADMINISTERED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE COUNTY TREASURER.
THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COURT.
WILL THEY STILL KEEP ANY INSURANCE THAT THEY HAVE? UH, NO.
UNLESS THEY ARE RETIRING AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE PICK UP NOW, THAT THAT WOULD STILL STAY OUT THERE.
BUT IF SOMEBODY HAD WORKED FOR US FIVE YEARS, THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THEY RESIGNED, THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR RETIREMENT BENEFITS.
I'M SORRY, HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS.
NOW REMEMBER, FOR SOMEBODY TO BE VESTED IN THE COUNTY RETIREMENT LAW AFTER YOUR EIGHT YEARS.
AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW, UH, I'VE VISITED WITH ALREADY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE NOT TRIED TO HIDE THIS.
IT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT NOW FOR SEVERAL WEEKS ABOUT HOSPITAL DOING.
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WE DO HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE, IN FACT, THERE'S ONE LADY SPECIFICALLY THAT DOES NOT HAVE HER FULL EIGHT YEARS IN.SHE WANTS TO RETIRE, BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE A FULL EIGHT YEARS IN UNTIL LIKE SEPTEMBER.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE DO WE REALLY WANT TO, IF SHE WAS TO TAKE THIS, DO WE REALLY WANT TO DO THAT AND, UH, AND NOT LET HER ENJOY HER RETIREMENT BENEFITS AS WELL? SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S EXCEPTIONS TO EVERY POLICY THAT YOU GET INTO.
UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT JOHN WROTE US ABOUT, UH, PARAMETERS OF THIS.
JOHN, I DUNNO WHETHER OR NOT BUTCHER THIS UP OR NOT.
YOU MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AS WELL.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S A A, WHAT YOU HAVE IS A, A PRETTY GOOD PROPOSAL.
I MEAN, WE'LL INCORPORATE SOME MORE STUFF IN WHATEVER IS IS, IS DONE.
UH, I, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AND WE WANT BE CLEAR ON THE COMMUNICATIONS OF WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING OR WE'RE NOT MAKING REPRESENTATIONS REGARDING WHAT THEIR RETIREMENT IS.
THAT THAT'S SOMETHING EVERYONE NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT FOR THEMSELVES.
HOW THAT WORKS AND HOW THAT WORKS.
AND WE DON'T WANNA HAVE ANY ASSURANCE THAT I, YOU HAVE SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS THAT YOU THEREFORE CROSS THE HUMP OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
YOU HAVE 10 AND A HALF YEARS, YOU'RE IN THE 10 CATEGORY, RIGHT? NOT THE 11TH.
JUDGE, IT'S GOTTA BE FULL YEARS.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT STARTED ON SEPTEMBER THE FIRST AND WENT FOR 10 YEARS, IT WOULD NEED TO BE 10 FULL YEARS FOR THE DATE OF THAT, UH, THAT FIRST DATE OF HIRING.
AND THE IDEA IS, IS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE'VE SPELLED THAT IS, IS TO NOT LET SOMEBODY PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM DETERMINE THREE MONTHS LATER HIRING.
I GOT A QUESTION, JUDGE, ON RETIRE NOT VESTED.
WHAT DOES THAT DO IF SOMEBODY ELSE INDIVIDUAL BASIS? I THINK IT HAVE TO BE ON THE INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO OCCUR FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR.
YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
IT JUST CUT EVERYBODY BE YEAH, COULD YEAH, WOULD, BUT YOU COULD OPEN THE DOORS WHERE EVERYBODY'S, WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, SAYING YOU DID IT FOR HER, FOR THEM NOT DOING IT FOR ME.
I THINK AS LONG, AND WE MAY NEED TO PUT THAT IN.
I DON'T WHETHER YOU HEARD THAT, NOT JOHN, BUT I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE IT A SET CERTAIN DATE, UH, THAT, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? NOT DROP DEAD DATE.
WELL, THE, THE, THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, UH, IN ONE OF THE PARAGRAPHS ON, ON THE MEMO, IT HAS THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE DECIDED BY JULY 15TH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE HANDLED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME MOST COUNTY EMPLOYEES, THERE'S SOME MAGIC DATE OF EITHER THIS MEANS I'VE BEEN HERE THIS MANY YEARS OR BEST ON THIS DATE.
AND SO, UM, NOW IF THE DATE IS A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW, IT IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
NO, IT'S BECAUSE WE NEED THE IMMEDIATE YEAH.
AND I, AND I GUESS PART OF THE PROBLEM TOO IS, IS WE'RE DECIDING IN JUNE SOMETHING WE WANT TO TAKE EFFECT IN JULY.
AND SO SINCE PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REALLY PLAN FOR IT AS MUCH AS THEY WANT, I GUESS THERE'S GONNA BE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY WOULD NEED, REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE NO LONGER AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY AS OF SEPTEMBER THE 30TH, WHEN THE NEW BUDGET YEAR WOULD START ON OCTOBER THE FIRST.
BUT I THINK THAT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME INDIVIDUAL CASES THAT THERE WOULD'VE TO BE LOOKED AT.
MY GOAL WOULD BE THAT PEOPLE WOULD TAKE IT AS QUICK AS THEY COULD TO GIVE US RELIEF FROM THIS BUDGET YEAR.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK IF SOMEBODY'S RETIREMENT IS AFFECTED, I DO WANT TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY OR I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE, I WOULD HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY DEALING THOUGH, BUT MAYBE CUT IT OFF OFFICIALLY AS OF SEPTEMBER THE 30TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.
UH, I ASSUME THAT WHEN WE, IF WE DO THIS, WE'RE NOT GOING FILL THAT POSITION, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEA.
WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM THAT PRESENTS US IN THE JAIL, WE HAVE MINIMUM STATUTE.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD JUST ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.
OH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WOULD'VE TO THINK ABOUT IT.
I THINK EVEN ON THE IMPORTANT SIDE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LEVEL THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER MINIMUM STAFFING TO DO OUR BASIC PUBLIC SAFETY, RIGHT? SO DO WE HAVE TO, DOES THIS HAVE TO BE OFFERED TO EVERYBODY? NO,
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IT DOES NOT.JOHN DOES IT, BUT HOW, HOW, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THE SHERIFF, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN HE'S GONNA ASK FOR A COUPLE MORE DETENTION OFFICER HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.
HE HAS EIGHT DETENTION OFFICERS WANT TO TAKE THIS THING.
HE GONNA SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
THEY'RE DOING IT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ELEMENTARY TEACHERS THEY HAVE, BUT THEY'RE OFFERING IT TOO.
THEY MAY OFFER IT TO 10 ELEMENTARY TEACHERS OR 10 SECONDARY TEACHERS, OR SIX PRINCIPALS OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, IT VARIES BY DEPARTMENT WHAT, WHAT THE EFFECT IS.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY INTENTION THAT IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT UPON THE NATURE OF THE DEPARTMENT.
JOHN, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH IT? YEAH.
ALTHOUGH ARE YOU SAYING SHERIFF, THAT, THAT YOU ANTICIPATE, FOR EXAMPLE? I HAVE NO IDEA.
I MEAN, BUT IT, IT COULD COME UP.
YOU KNOW, THAT, SAY I GOT, SAY WE'RE AT, WHEN WE GET THESE TWO PEOPLE, WE'RE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROBABLY AT PRETTY CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, OUR MINIMUM STAFFING WITH THE 52 EXTRA INMATES WE'VE GOTTA PAY.
SO IF WE HAD FOUR THAT WANTED TO LEAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO REPLACE, UH, AND, AND OUR DE POPULATION GOES UP, WHICH IS VERY FEASIBLE.
YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO THERE? WE, WE LET THESE PEOPLE GO IN AN EFFORT TO HOLD THE SALARY BUDGET DOWN, AND NOW WE'RE IN A, IN A CATCH 22 WITH ION.
SO, AND ESPECIALLY WE'RE HOLDING PAY IN YOU OR WE, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'LL DO IF WE GET OVER, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAFFED, THEY WILL MAKE US GIVE UP THOSE INMATES AND TELL US YOU CAN'T OR YOU'VE COMPLIANCE.
MY BELIEF IS IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE, UH, APPLIED TO INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS.
IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD.
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW SCHOOLS ARE DONE WITH TEACHERS AND, UH, NON-CERTIFIED STAFF AND THAT, SO, AND ALL OF OUR PEOPLE, NONE OF OUR PEOPLE HAVE A CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THAT, UH, THAT THEY'RE, THERE'S SOME CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION.
THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT SCHOOLS HAVE WITH TEACHERS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THOSE QUESTIONS ARE GONNA COME UP.
I, I, I WOULD TYPE SOME, UH, GUIDANCE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT, I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THIS ROOM IS GOING AROUND AND WE'RE GOING HAVE LAYOFFS AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK ALL THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES PRETTY WELL ARE ON EDGE ANYWAY.
I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, AGGRAVATE THAT SITUATION WELL, AND WE NEED TO GET DOWN TO AROUND 500 EMPLOYEES.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
AND THAT'S TOTAL EMPLOYEES BUILDING PARTTIME.
SO, UH, HOW WE GET THERE, IT MAY NOT BE PRETTY, BUT WE, WE'VE GOTTA GET THERE.
AND, BUT I DO THINK WHEN IT COMES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, WE DO HAVE TO, UH, REALIZE WE DO HAVE LIMITED STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO DO SO THAT WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF.
ESPECIALLY WE'VE GOT ABOUT 50 OR 60 CONTRACT PRISONERS NOW, WHICH HELPS US ON THE OTHER END OF THE BUDGET AS FAR AS REVENUE.
UH, TO THE TUNE OF WHAT, ABOUT 15, 1800 A DAY? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH, ABOUT 47,000 A MONTH I'S PRETTY BIG MONEY TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING, JUDGE THAT WE CAN LIMIT THIS TO DEPARTMENTS? WE DON'T HAVE TO JUST BLANK IT PAY TO EVERYBODY.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
IF IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, THAT'S WHAT CASE BY CASE MEANS.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO IT, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE.
BUT I, I FEEL LIKE THE SHERIFF HAS MAY JUST GOTTA HAVE, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO HAVE 10 PEOPLE TAKE THIS IN THE JAIL.
THE ONLY THING IT WOULD HELP THEM IS IF THEY HAD A TIME TO HAVE LONGEVITY IN THAT WE HIRE PEOPLE WITH NO LONGEVITY, WHICH IS IN A MINIMAL IMPACT.
OR IF THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE IN COUNTY EMPLOYMENT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TAKING A JAIL JOB.
THAT'S THE OTHER THING WHERE THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S PART, KIND OF, OF THIS, AND I THINK WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAS BEEN, HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT HIRING PEOPLE FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHEN THEY HAVE A VACANCY WITH HER, THAT HELPS US ALSO, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATE POSITIONS.
DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TELL THE SHERIFF THAT HE CANNOT OFFER THIS TO ANY OF THOSES IF HE HAS TO HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE? AND THEN, AND THEN, THEN I CAN TELL HOW THAT HE DOES ARE ARE, YOU ARE SAYING THAT IT WOULD BE OPEN TO EVERYONE BUT THE SHERIFF? WELL, I'VE GOT, YEAH, I, I'VE LOST 25% OF MY WORKFORCE HERE IN THE LAST YEAR, UHHUH THROUGH GOING FOR BETTER JOBS.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO REPLACE SOME OF PEOPLE MORE THAN LIKELY.
DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH WHAT WE, WE DO OUR ROAD MODELS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT IF I DON'T OFFER ANY OF MY GUYS AND
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TWO GUYS MIGHT AS WANNA QUIT.SO ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME THAT I CAN'T OFFER THIS TO MY PEOPLE? OR IT COULD BE BE BY CHOICE, BUT IT SHOULD BE WHERE WE'RE ELIMINATING SOMEBODY, NOT ELIMINATING THE POSITION AND FILLING A POSITION.
HOW DO YOU GET THAT POINT? AND I AGREE WITH THE SCENARIO A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS.
IT'D BE A GOOD THING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE TO DO, BUT HOW DO YOU PICK AND CHOOSE? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU,
I'M LOOKING WELL, AND OF COURSE ONE THOUGHT COMES TO MIND WOULD BE THAT IF JERRY HAS A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT HE CAN ELIMINATE THAT THEY WOULD BE OFFERED A JOB WITH YOUR PRECINCT.
UH, THAT'D BE THE, THE THE EASIEST WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
THAT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE THE CASE.
THAT, BUT THAT DIDN'T OFFSET ANY BUDGET.
ELIMINATES TWO PEOPLE FROM THIS, BUT I I, THERE'S TWO PEOPLE COME HIS PAYROLL, TWO PEOPLE ON MY PAYROLL.
BUT IT ELIMINATE THE TWO PEOPLE THAT YOU HAD.
YOU WOULDN'T BE HIRING TWO PEOPLE, NEW PEOPLE.
UH, I MAY NOT BE HIRING ANYONE, BUT I TRY TO KEEP MINE DOWN AT 75% LEFT.
IF I CAN MAKE IT, I LIKE A TRANSFER.
THAT'S THE REDUCTION THAT YOU I'VE ALREADY, BUT I'VE ALREADY REDUCED.
OH, YOU, OH, I I WAS SAYING YOU, BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO OFFER THIS TO MY OTHER SIX GUYS 'CAUSE WE ALL QUIT.
I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SHOVELS FROM ME AND YOU, JERRY.
I MEAN, WELL, THE OTHER, AND I CAN FAKE THE HEAT ON MY PART.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA OFFER ANY OF MY GUYS.
YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE, BUT, BUT HOW CAN I, HOW CAN, HOW CAN I SAY THAT SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT CAN OR CAN'T? WELL, IS THAT NOT DISCRIMINATION, JOHN? NO, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S DISCRIMINATION.
BUT IT, BUT THE SHERIFF RAISES A VERY GOOD POINT THAT NOT ALL EMPLOYEES ARE EQUAL IN THE SENSE THAT, THAT IF THE LAW REQUIRES HIM TO KEEP A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FOLKS AT WORK AT A TIME, THEN EVEN IF HE SAYS, OKAY, Y'ALL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A REPERCUSSION.
EITHER WOULD MOVE MAY IT'S, YEAH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S TOUGH.
I MEAN, DID YOU EVER DO IT WITH ANY OF THE SCHOOLS THAT YOU WERE WITH? NO, MY SCHOOLS WERE ALWAYS SO WELL-MANAGED.
I DIDN'T, BUT THERE ARE A TON OF ENTITIES THAT ARE DOING THIS.
I HAVEN'T HEARD OF COUNTIES, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE'RE THE ONLY COUNTY.
BUT YOU THINK THEY PICK AND CHOOSE BETWEEN THE DEPART? I KNOW BETWEEN, UH, JOB LEVELS OR, SO YEAH, LIKE SECONDARY TEACHERS.
WE'VE GOT 10 SECONDARY TEACHERS THAT WE OFFER TO 10.
UH, SO I MEAN, THE OPPOSITE, THE OTHER OPTION TO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T WANT DO THIS IS JUST TO FIRE 25, 30 PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS A KINDER, KINDER, GENTLER WAY OF DOING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN THE POSITION, WE ARE IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF SOME FAULT OF THE EMPLOYEE.
IT'S JUST THAT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE OUR REVENUE IS NOT COMING LIKE WE PROJECTED THE COMPANY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT, WE DON'T WANT CREATE A BIGGER PROBLEM BY DOING IT.
BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TOO.
BUT I DON'T, I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
COULD, COULD YOU, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE YOU SAYING THE SECONDARY TEACHER, COULD YOU SAY X NUMBER OF CLERICAL POSITIONS, X NUMBER OF, UH, THE DEPUTY POSITIONS, NOT, NOT DEPUTY LIKE DEPUTIES, BUT DEPUTY CLERKS OR WHATEVER, SOMETHING SUCH AS THAT WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY COME IN THE, YOU COULD ELIMINATE PETITION OFFICERS COMPLETELY.
SO YOU CAN'T OFFER, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD COULD TELL YOU HOW MANY THEIR AGENCY GIVE UP IN THE APARTMENT TO RETIRE FROM THEIR APARTMENT.
THE FIRST TWO OR WHATEVER THAT COMES FORWARD.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO FIRE ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY AUTHORITY WE HAVE IS TO REDUCE THEIR PAYROLL.
SO THEY HAVE TO FIRE SOMEBODY.
WHAT WERE YOU SAYING IN THE SCHOOLS? THEY HAD ONLY OFFERED IT JUST SO MANY PEOPLE.
AND THEY STOOD IN LINE WAITING TO TAKE IT.
COULD EACH DEPARTMENT HAD DETERMINE HOW MANY THEY'RE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT IN THEIR PERMIT? YEAH, WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY AND THEN YOU CAN LIMIT IT TO SAY YES, HE CAN ONLY DO TWO.
THE FIRST TWO THAT COME BOARD AND TAKE IT ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT CAN BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT.
I, I JUST, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE DO YOU THINK IF WE DID OFFER SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE DO YOU THINK? I PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE THAT WOULD RESPOND TO IT.
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MIGHT HAVE ONE OR TWO IN MINE THAT MIGHT, I HOPE I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY'S RESPONSE TO IT.I CAN SAY A LOT OF PEOPLE OF COURSE.
I DUNNO HOW THAT WOULD BE AMONG THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
I THINK WE CAN HAVE QUITE FEW.
UH, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE NEAR RETIREMENT EVEN THAT'S NOT A PART OF WE'RE ENCOURAG RETIRE RETIREMENT OTHER THAN WE DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD INCENTIVE OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE.
IT'S A CHOICE BETWEEN BEING GIVING THE $8,000 OR FIRE ME.
ANYWAY, ACCORDING TO THE LATEST BUDGET NUMBERS OR EMPLOYEE NUMBERS, WE NEED ABOUT 33 PEOPLE GIVE OR TAKE SOME.
WE'LL GET THERE, BUT I THINK WE'LL GET THERE PRETTY QUICK.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS, I THINK THIS WILL HIT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW WE DO IT, RIGHT? I MIGHT SEE HOW MANY WOULD TAKE IT, WOULDN'T YOU? I'M CURIOUS WITH THAT, THE SUGGESTION, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS IS, IS THAT WE GET THE INPUT FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY COULD GIVE UP PER DEPARTMENT AND THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD, GOOD WAY TO SEE WITH THE IDEA.
I MAY HAVE GIVE UP ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T LIKE TALK NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA GET TO THAT POINT IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET, GET OURSELVES WELL FINANCIALLY AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A FUN THING, BUT THIS MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO, TO DO.
BUT I KIND OF FEEDBACK, UH, IF, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, AND THIS MAYBE WOULD BE A, A QUESTION JOHN COULD HELP US ANSWER, UH, MAYBE WE COULD, UH, PROVE IT MONDAY NIGHT AS SOON AS WE GET THE LANGUAGE ALL CLEARED UP HERE WITH THE DETERMINATION ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BY DEPARTMENT TO BE DETERMINED AS WE MOVE.
UH, YOU KNOW, LET THAT, I DON'T, I HATE TO DELAY IT BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING, RUNNING OUTTA TIME, BUT MAYBE WE COULD GET AN INPUT BACK FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO OFFER.
AND, AND I THINK IT IS GONNA HAVE TO VARY BY DEPARTMENT.
SO, JOHN, DOES THAT SOUND? YEAH.
UM, C CAN I ASK THIS AS THE SHERIFF HERE? UH OH, IT IS THERE A, UH, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT TOO MUCH, BUT, UM, CAN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BE CUT AT ALL? SURE.
IS THERE A MAGIC NUMBER THAT, THAT YOU GET BELOW THIS THAT YOU RUN INTO THE JAIL? DEPEND ON JAIL POPULATION.
WE HAVE A STAFFING RATIO AND OBVIOUSLY FRONT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING ABOUT 2 35 CALLS A DAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CALL, CALL OUT, WE MAKE, YOU KNOW, WE HOLD, WE'RE HOLDING POSITIONS AS FAR AS THE DAY TO DAY OPERATION OF THE DEAL AND PRETTY WELL DOWN.
SO IF WE, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS SOMEBODY YOU HAVE TO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A POINT WHERE WE GET THE YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING IF, IF THERE WERE FOLKS OVER THERE THAT HAD 21 YEARS THAT SAID, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO HAD THEY THOUSAND, YOU CAN WORK WITH THE SHERIFF.
I'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE IN THAT TABLE.
BOTH OF THEM HAVE
I MEAN, IT'LL PAYBACK ON VERY QUICK.
REALLY? YEAH, I WOULD THINK HE CAN GET TO THAT 33.
YEAH, I THINK, WELL HOW WOULD IT BE IF WE PUT IN THERE THAT THE EXACT NUMBER PER DEPARTMENT WILL BE DETERMINED? UH, ACT LOT.
YEAH, A LOT PER THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE DETERMINED, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
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OR DO THAT, DOES THAT SOUND SENSIBLE, JOHN? YEAH, I MEAN WE COULD ADD THAT TO ONE OF THESE STATEMENTS HERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.I MEAN, IT'S A LEGITIMATE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.
WE CAN'T JUST, WE ONLY GOT 33 OR 35 OR WHATEVER THE MAGIC NUMBER IS.
UH, AND, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND CANNIBALIZE THE DEPARTMENT AND NOT HAVE ANYBODY THERE.
I MEAN THAT, THAT IS NOT PRODUCTIVE FOR US AS A COUNTY.
SO, OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE DETAILS IN IT? YEAH, AND WE, WE, WE NEEDED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
WE'LL HAVE IT BACK ON AGENDA MONDAY APPROVED, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY.
WE'LL ADD THAT IN HERE SOMEPLACE.
JOHN, I THINK YOU SAID YOU COULD COME UP WITH A, SOME SORT OF A FORM OR SOMETHING, THE EMPLOYEES WOULD ACCESS IT, BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE IN THERE THAT IT WOULD BE BASED OFF THIS DEPARTMENT.
IF WE COULD TURN THOSE NUMBERS INTO YOU BY SAY FRIDAY AND THEN HAVE MEETING MONDAY, WOULD THAT BE TOO? YEAH, IF WE CAN JUST GET EVERYBODY TO DO IT.
WE'LL HAVE TO GET OUT BECAUSE I I, WE FIND OUT, YEAH.
IT'S JUST A MATTER WE NEED, IF WE NEED TO GET AROUND 500 EMPLOYEES AND THAT MAGIC, THAT'S NOT A SET CONCRETE NUMBER, BUT I, BASED ON WHAT MY BELIEF IS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THE BUDGET IS, SO IT'S A NUMBER THAT WILL HELP US BE WHOLE.
THAT'LL SAVE US ABOUT 2 MILLION.
WE'RE ALREADY ABOUT HALFWAY THERE FROM WHAT WE STARTED OUT.
AND IF WE COULD SAVE $2 MILLION FROM FIRST, AND I THINK THAT'S A MINIMUM NUMBER ACTUALLY, JOHNNY, I LOOKED AT WHAT THE AVERAGE EMPLOYEE MAKES, BUT IF WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT, MAN, THAT REALLY GOES A LONG WAY WITH, UH, YEAH.
HELPING US GET BACK ON OUR FEET AGAIN.
SO WHERE'S OUR 34 PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AT WHEN WE DONE? UH, THEY'RE SCATTERED AROUND.
SOME OF 'EM ARE LIKE, SOME OF 'EM ARE AT THE, UH, CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.
THEY DON'T EMPLOY THE EMPLOYEES UNLESS THEY MEET, UH, WHICH IS NOT EVEN PART OF OUR BUDGET ACTUALLY.
UH, THE LIBRARY HAS FIVE AND UH, AT WHICH SOME PART-TIME EMPLOYEES DO MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT THEY'RE SCATTERED AROUND DIFFERENT PLACES.
JOHNNY, YOU, YOU ASKED JOHNNY THAT EXACT QUESTION.
THAT SAYS SHE, HE WAS GONNA FIND THOSE NUMBERS OUT, BUT IT'S PRETTY WELL SCATTERED.
I MEAN THERE'S NO, NO, I KNOW FIVE AT THE LIBRARY AND I GOT TWO.
AND SO, AND THEY DON'T DRAW BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, THEY STILL ARE THE COST TO THE, TO THE COUNTY.
BUT THESE, MY DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOUT 'EM, THEY DON'T REALLY WANT GIVE UP THEIR PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW.
UH, A MOTION TO I GUESS JUST, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, UH, BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE GIVE BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING.
A MOTION? ANY ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING AN IN LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFF COUNTY AND HUNT COUNTY TO PROVIDE FOR HOUSING CARE INMATES.
SHERIFF, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE HUNT COUNTY? UH, WELL WE'VE GOT, I THINK WE'VE GOT, UH, ABOUT 10 FROM HUNT COUNTY AND, UH, CONTRACT.
WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME OFF ON TRYING TO GET TRACTORS.
UH, WE, WE HAVE, HAVE WE HAD AN INTEROP WITH HUNT BEFORE OR IS THIS THIS NEW? NO, THEY, WE, WE'VE HAD SOME BURN SHEET LIKE WE DO WITH VAN.
YEAH, I THINK WE DID FIND, GET A CONTRACT.
AND SMITH COUNTY WAS SENT IN THERE ON FRIDAY, SO WE SHOULD GET IT THIS WEEK.
DO WE NEED TO GET EVERYBODY SIGNED? SO THIS FIRST ONE, AND THERE'S NOT A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER THEY CAN SEND US.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE CONTRACT, SO WE HAVE 10.
DO THEY HAVE A NUMBER IN THERE? I DON'T THINK THEY DO.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE, THE RATE IS GONNA BE AND THE ONLY THING IT DOES SAY,
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SHERIFF, IT SAYS THAT IF YOU REACH, UH, THE POINT WHERE, UH, YOU REACH THE MAXIMUM POPULATION OF THE JAIL, YOU HAVE A RAT TO NOTIFY THAT.WHERE YOU WON'T BE IN VIOLATION.
THAT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE SAFETY ATION AND THEIR MEDICAL PART WILL BE COVERED BY ANY MEDICAL EXPENSES OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED AN ASTHMA OR UH, YOU KNOW, THE REGULAR SICK CALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ANY MEDICATION, UH, OR ANY OUTSIDE.
THEN WE GO BACK TO THAT, THE ROUTINE, YOU KNOW, HEADACHE SORE TO, WHAT'S THAT DO TO OUR BAIL HEALTH CONTRACT? IS IT A CERTAIN THRESHOLD WE GOTTA GET TO BEFORE WE START PAYING MORE? I THINK, UH, 2 75 WE HAVE AN INCREASE.
BUT THAT WOULDN'T PERTAIN TO THIS ONE.
UH, WOULDN'T BE PROVIDING THAT TYPE OF CARE FOR ON OUR HEALTH.
WELL THEN, UH, SMITH COUNTY HAS THE SAME, UH, CONTRACT ON MEDICAL.
WE, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO BUILD DIRECT, SHOULDN'T, SHOULDN'T BE AFFECTED IF WE'RE NOT PAYING THAT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THAT.
NO, WE, WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT WITH, WE CAN DO OUR MEDICAL STUFF, BUT IT, IT GOES TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF INMATES AND THEN IT INCREASES.
BUT BUT IF WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, IT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THAT.
SMITH COUNTY INMATES ARE UNDER THE, UH, BLACK CONTRACT WITH THAT SAME COMPANY, COUNTY.
THEY'RE ALREADY CONTRACT MEDICAL INMATES FROM THERE.
SO WE'RE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE LOGISTICS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, LIFT THAT COMPANY, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE THAT BACK TO SMITH COUNTY RATHER THAN US BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE.
AND I BELIEVE THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THAT CONTRACT THAT PERTAINS TO INMATES.
THEY'RE NOT PART OF OUR GROUP.
SO IT SHOULDN'T COST OUR COUNTY.
IT WON'T GO EVEN IF IT GOES OVER THAT AMOUNT.
WE HAVE A, AN ITEM ON, UH, HUNT COUNTY.
HUNT COUNTY TO, UH, ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE HOUSING CARE OF THEIR INMATES.
WE ALSO HAVE ITEM FIVE, THE SMITH COUNTY CONTRACT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER JACKSON, UH, APPROVES AND UH, MAKES A MOTION MANNING SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SMITH COUNTY? ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE A.
I'M SORRY, THE SMITH COUNTY GONNA EXACTLY THE SAME AS THIS ONLY WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO SMITH COUNTY.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT, BUT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME, SAME CONTRACT WE, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAIL, BUT IT'S THE SAME CONTRACT.
THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I, YOU CAN DO IT SUBJECT TO JOHN MAKING SURE THAT IT IS THE SAME.
YEAH, THAT'D BE, WOULD THAT BE OKAY? YEAH.
AND HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE FROM SMITH COUNTY? WE'VE GOT 42 FROM SMITH COUNTY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME FROM
THEY'RE PERIODICALLY REPAIRING THINGS OVER THERE AND THEY'RE IN THE COMPLIANCE.
COMPLIANCE AND THEY, SO MAINLY THEY'RE FEMALES.
THEY DON'T HAVE A FEMALE DEATH.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY RIGHT NOW, JUDGE.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON IMPROVING INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFEY COUNTY AND SMITH COUNTY TO PROVIDE FOR HOUSING AND CARE OF INMATES.
AND, UH, WE DID NOT GET THE CONTRACT IN FROM SMITH COUNTY, BUT IT'S IN THE MAIL AND UH, I THANK GARY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
UH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, REVIEW OF OUR ATTORNEY.
WE APPROVE IT SECOND WITH APPROVAL OF TIME ATTORNEY MR. CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER ROUTE SENTENCE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DID I CALL YOU JERRY? YOU DID.
NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON AUTHORIZING THE SHERIFF TO HIRE REPLACEMENT PERSONNEL FOR TWO DETENTION OFFICER POSITIONS AND ONE COMMUNICATIONS, UH, OFFICER POSITION.
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT, UH, THE, UH, COMMUNICATION BASE EXACTLY IS ONE THAT, UH, WE HIRED, UH, THE OLDER GENTLEMAN AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS SUCH THAT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED WITH THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT.
SO HE WENT AND TOOK A VACANCY IN THE JAIL.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A OBVIOUSLY FULL TIME COMMUNICATION THEN TWO, UH, JAILERS THAT WE NEED TO, AGAIN, WE'RE RIGHT AT I THINK ON THE BREAK ON EMPLOYEE COMPLIANCE WE
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HAVE NOW.DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LINED UP FOR THOSE ALREADY OR? I, I THINK WE PROBABLY DO.
UH, I'D HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE IF ELIGIBILITY THIS, IF NOT, IT MAY BE 30 DAYS BEFORE WE OKAY.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY COMMENT I GUESS I WOULD'VE IS, IS THAT WE NEED TO, WHEN WE HAVE VACANCIES IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS, LIKE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WE SURE NEED TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO, UH, OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN MAKING THE MOVE.
ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE ELIMINATING THEIR JOB.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
WELL WE CAN, WE CAN PROBABLY, UH, POST IT SOME WAY.
UH, SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO IT, BUT, AND THERE I, THERE MAY NOT BE, THERE'S SOMEBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT JUDGE.
I DON'T YEAH, THERE MAY NOT BE ANYBODY OUT THERE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD MOVE FOR, AND IT MAY NOT BE ANYBODY YOU KNOW THAT MAY, YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO HIRE, BUT AT LEAST IT'S NOT KEEP SOMEBODY FROM LOSING A JOB, YOU KNOW? SO WE DON'T HAVE MANY PEOPLE BEATING THE DOOR DOWN AND WORKING THE JAIL.
AND YOU CONSIDER BOTH OF THESE AS UH, ESSENTIAL.
ALL THREE OF THESE AS ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES I THINK WE'RE, YOU COULDN'T DO WITHOUT.
SO RIGHT ON THE LINE AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF INMATES WE'VE GOT C COMMITTED COMPLIANCE AND ADDING THESE ADDITIONAL ONES MADE, MADE A DIFFERENCE.
THESE ADDITIONAL, SO THAT YOU GOT HOW WE COMING ON THE STAFFING STUDY, WE ARE TRYING TO GET ALL THAT TOGETHER AND GET IT TOO OFF FROM THAT.
SO WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THE BUDGET, JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THAT TOGETHER AND WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO SEE IF WE CAN COMBINE SOME JOBS BACK THERE, WHICH WE HAVE DONE, BUT IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT WITH WE'RE SPREAD OUT EVERYTHING COVER.
OUR MAIN THING IS IF WE CAN DO THAT, THEN MAYBE WE COULD USE THOSE FOR FLOOR OFFICER, WHICH IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY, UH, SUPERVISING INMATES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE ACTUALLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA TELL US, THIS IS HOW MANY DEDICATED ATTENTION OFFICERS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT ARE DEDICATED TO ONLY SUPERVISING THEM.
YOU KNOW, A STUFF LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE BONDING AND ALL THAT.
WE HAVE TO STAFF THAT AT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER AN OFFICIAL LEVEL WOULD BE.
SO, AND WE HAVE TO COMBINE SOME OF THOSE AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT DOING MORE OF THAT.
WELL THEY START THAT OF COURSE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY, WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
SO WHEN IT START THAT, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT ANTICIPATE UNTIL THEY COME BACK WITH AN APPROVED NUMBER? I, I WOULDN'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE LONG AT ALL.
UH, WE HAD ONE DONE INITIALLY.
I DON'T RECALL WHAT THE TIMEFRAME WAS BEFORE.
WE, YOU KNOW, YOUR NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OF ENOUGH INMATES AND THEY JUST CAME BACK WITH A, A MINIMUM NUMBER.
PLUS THEY HAVE PUT A RELIEF FACTOR IN THERE VIRTUALLY.
THE RULE OF THUMB IS FOR EVERY FOUR DETENTION POSITIONS THEY'LL ALLOW YOU, THEY REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE FIVE EMPLOYEES FOR RELIEF FACTOR.
AND THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD, THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE THAT LESSENS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE TO COME OVER.
MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? GIVE THAT UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
DISCUSS AND ACT ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSS AND ACT ON DESIGNATED AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO SERVE AS KAUFMAN COUNTY'S VOTING REPRESENTATIVE TO THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENT ASSEMBLY.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A COMMISSIONER, IT COULD BE ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL.
TYPICALLY IT'S BEEN THE, UH, I THINK WAYNE SERVED IN THE PAST IN THAT REGARD, BUT IT COULD BELE ELECTED OFFICIAL.
SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SERVE ON THAT? IT'S, I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE ON THAT.
AND YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS.
YOU MIGHT GET A FREE LUNCH, GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
COMMISSIONER, YOU MAKE THAT I MADE THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER ROBIN, COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING OF RELEASE OF ROAD AND DRAINAGE BOND FOR SHADOW LAKE PHASE TWO
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IN COFF COUNTY PRECINCT.JUDGE THIS BACK IN OH EIGHT, I AT SOME PARTS OF THE ROAD AND BACK, TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT.
SO I, I DON'T WANT INHERIT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA COST ME A LOT OF MONEY.
SO THEY, THEY SOLVED ALL PROBLEMS. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM RELEASING THAT BOND, JOHN.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
MR. MANNING MAKES, UH, SECOND FOR THAT MOTION ALL SAY AYE A.
OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSS NUMBER NINE, DISCUSS AND ACT ON HIRING AND REPLACEMENT FOR EMPLOYEE ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
DID DENNIS NOT GET ALONG WITH IT? PROBABLY NOT.
UH, I REALIZE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CUT OUR STAFFING AND UH, I'VE BEEN, UH, I HAD ONE GUY THAT LEFT IN JANUARY AND I HAD ANOTHER GUY LEFT, UH, ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO.
AND, UH, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET ALONG WITH THAT AS BEST I CAN.
I WAS KIND OF, UH, BAD MY TIME WAITING ON THIS, UH, UH, INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
'CAUSE I DO BELIEVE I HAVE A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE INTERESTED IN THIS PROGRAM.
UH, THIS GUY THAT I HAVE IN MIND FOR THIS POSITION, UH, HAS ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS OF, OF SOMEBODY I NEED.
I KNOW THE GUY REAL WELL AND HE'S, UH, HE HAS A COMMERCIAL DRIVER LICENSE, KNOWS HOW TO OPERATE ALL SORT OF EQUIPMENT, IS, UH, REALLY A GOOD HAND.
AND, UH, UH, I NEED NOW WHEN YOU GOT FOUR CREWS YOU SEND OUT ALL OVER THE COUNTY EVERY DAY AND THEN YOU WIND UP BEING SHORT, YOU HAVE TO LOCK THE SHOP UP AND LEAVE.
WELL THAT'S, IT'S NOT WORKING FOR ME, SO I, I REALLY NEED THE GUY.
IF Y'ALL SEE CLEAR, LET ME HAVE IT.
AND IT FILLS POSITION THAT'S BEEN VACANT? YES.
MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING UNFILLED POSITION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOTION DO WE A SECOND, JACKSON SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? SAY IF ADOPTION IS DONE FOR SOMEONE.