* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] HEY, MIKE, YOU'RE BACK. WAS EVERYBODY, MAN. SNOOZE. YOU LOSE, MAN. I KNOW. I GO OUT ON MEDICAL FOR A MONTH. I, EVERYBODY INDICTMENT. YOU GOTTA STAY IN THE GAME. HEY, I, EVERYBODY ELSE I DID NOT TRY STARTED AND THEN THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO, I'D LIKE TO CALL A MEETING TO ORDER AND THANK, UH, EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS THE MONDAY, JUNE THE THIRD, UH, 13TH, 2011 MEETING OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT. AND, UH, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO STAND NOW FOR THE INVITATION THAT WE BE GIVEN BY COMMISSIONER TOM MANNING. THEN JOIN ME WITH THE, UH, UH, SALUTE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG PRAY. DEAR HEAVEN, FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, FOR THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO GATHER TOGETHER, TO MAKE DECISIONS OF THE COUNTY. GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND WISDOM, LORD, TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. GIVE US THE STRENGTH, LORD, TO GO FORWARD AND DO AS YOU WOULD HAVE US TO DO. LORD BLESS ALL THE SOLDIERS OVERSEAS THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY. KEEP THEM SAFE. AND IF YOU COULD SEE YOUR WAY CLEAR, LORD, SEND US A LITTLE RAIN. AMEN. THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS FOR ONE NATION AND GOD, AN INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL IGI ONE INDIVIDUAL. ALL RIGHT, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS BE ANY REMARKABLE VISITORS. WE HAVE SOME FORMS FILLED OUT THAT WERE ON THE TABLE. IF ANY OF YOU, UH, HAVE THOSE OR IF ANY OF YOU WOULD, UH, LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COURT, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO THAT. WE DO REQUEST THAT YOU, UH, COMPLETE ONE OF OUR FORMS, THAT WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COURT. OKAY? ONE OVER HERE, JUDGE. OKAY. UH, ANNETTE LARSON FROM, UH, 50 CENT SIX 20 BEDROOM LANE. CAROL? YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. UM, I COME FORWARD SO WE COULD, UH, GET YOU ON VIDEO. COME OVER HERE. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. RIGHT. AND ARE YOU GONNA SPEAK ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? YES, SIR. OKAY. SHE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS. DO YOU WANT TO JUST WAIT UNTIL WE CAN JUST WAIT UNTIL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALRIGHT. I'M, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ITEM ONE ON OUR AGENDA. I PUT FOR EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE A COPY AND THERE'S SOME OUT IN THE AUDIENCE, I THINK ON THE TABLE WHERE STEVE IS THERE AND PROVIDED COPIES FOR MEDIA AS WELL. UH, WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, I THINK WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER AND CERTAINLY WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE POSITIVE USE. UH, YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH WE GAVE YOU A, UH, DATA INDICATING THAT YOU ADDED UP [00:05:01] OUR INCREASED REVENUES AND REUSED EXPENSES. WE WERE 2 MILLION, UH, $3,000, UH, I'M SORRY, UH, 2 MILLION IS $66,638 AHEAD OF THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. IN OTHER WORDS, THAT WAS A PLUS FOR US. WELL, IF YOU LOOK THROUGH, UH, ACCORDING TO MR. JONES, THE, UH, AUDITOR, IF YOU LOOK THROUGH, UH, MAY THE 31ST, UH, WE ARE NOW, UH, TO THE GOOD, UH, COUNTING THE SAME TIME HEARING OR LOOKING AT THE SAME TIME PERIOD LAST YEAR OF $2,865,439. SO THAT'S CERTAINLY ANOTHER SIGN THAT ADDED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. NOW, WE NEED TO NEED TO CAUTION OURSELVES THAT THIS IS JUST AT THE END OF ANY ONE PERIOD. AND SO IT MAY NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS JUNE 30, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS, UH, POSITIVE. WE'D, I'D RATHER SIT IT GOING THAT WAY THAN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. CERTAINLY GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BUT AGAIN, MUCH CREDIT GOES TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT, CERTAINLY OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE FURLOUGH DAYS THAT, UH, WERE IN PLACE. UH, AND WE DO HAVE A FEWER NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES NOW, THE, UH, THE, UH, AMOUNT THAT YOU GUYS TOOK FROM YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS TOWARDS THE, UH, UH, DEDICATING THAT TOWARDS THE GENERAL FUND. I MEAN THERE, THAT, THAT ALL ADDS UP. BUT, UH, ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, $2.8 MILLION IS A, IS A PLUS FOR US. SO THAT, THAT'S HELPING US GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GET EACH MONTH. OF COURSE, ONCE AGAIN, A IS STANDALONE, BUT IT IS, IT CERTAINLY IS POSITIVE. IT'S THEN, UH, ANYBODY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING? UH, DOES THAT MEAN I COULD GIVE ALL MY ROAD GUYS A RAISE? NOW? I DON'T THINK IT WORKS QUITE LIKE THE OTHER THING, UH, I TRY, WE TRIED TO PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU AND ANGIE HAS WORKED ON THIS AND, UH, THE, UH, UH, TREASURER'S OFFICE, UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION THE LAST TIME WE MET OR AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE ALL OVER EMPLOYED. AND, UH, SOME OF THEM ARE GRANT POSITIONS AND THEN THAT REALLY, IT'S NOT COUNTY MONEY. IT'S, UH, A GRANT MONEY. UH, AND THEN, UH, SOME OF 'EM, UH, AND YOU'LL SEE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, FULL-TIME, UH, UH, POSITIONS WE HAVE THAT ARE PART-TIME, OR I'M SORRY, THE FULL-TIME POSITION. THAT'S, UH, STEVE OOEY, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR IS PAID FOR BY A GRANT. AND THEN ALSO THE PERSON THAT HE WORKS, THE PART-TIME PERSON HE HAS IS PAID FOR BY A GRANT. NOT THAT ONE OF THOSE ARE, ARE COUNTY FUNDS. UH, THERE'S PART-TIME POSITION WITH HISTORICAL COMMISSION. UH, THERE ARE NINE PART-TIME POSITIONS WITH A CHILDREN'S SHELTER. AND LET ME, THOSE POSITIONS REALLY ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT FULL-TIME PART-TIME POSITIONS. THEY'RE ONLY USED WHENEVER THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT ARE AT THE SHELTER REQUIRE THEM TO BE THERE. AND, AND AGAIN, THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH, UH, THE STATE. SO THEY'RE REALLY NOT COUNTY EMPLOYEES EITHER. AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S A COUPLE OF PART-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THE TAX OFFICE AND THEY'RE PAID FOR WITH, UH, STATE MONEY. AND I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY LICENSE, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN, UH, UH, LICENSE RENEWAL. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT ALL, BUT, UH, THERE ARE THOSE YOU. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PART-TIME PAID BY COUNTY, AND WE STILL MAY HAVE A LITTLE FINE TUNING ON THIS BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF 'EM SHOWS TO BE A RAISED PRECINCT AND YOU SAID YOU DON'T HAVE A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE. SO SOME OF THESE, I GOT SOME LITTLE WORK HALF TIME WELL, THAT YOU WERE, YOU TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT. YES. BUT, AND I DON'T KNOW. SO WE, WE'VE STILL PROBABLY GOT A LITTLE FINE TUNING, BUT OF THE, UH, OF THE 33 PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT APPROXIMATELY, UH, 20 OF 'EM ARE PAID BY THE COUNTY. THE OTHERS ARE GRAND EMPLOYEES ARE, THEY ONLY WORK PART-TIME AS A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. SO ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT YOU MIGHT TAKE CLARIFICATION AND AGAIN, WE'LL TRY TO, WE'LL TRY TO, UH, GO THROUGH AND, AND, UH, FINE TUNE THIS JUST A LITTLE MORE, BUT IT KIND OF EXPLAINS WHY WE HAVE OF PART-TIME EMPLOYEES. ALRIGHTY. NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE COPIES OF THAT. UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA OR ANY ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE REMOVED TO TALK ABOUT INDIVIDUALLY? JC YOU GOOD WITH THAT? UH, ITEM B? YES. YES. UH, THAT'S A SMALL LOT. THIS CHURCH, CORRECT? UH, ANOTHER MINISTER THAT HAD THE CHURCH AND A LOT ON THE SIDE WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 25 FEET WIDE. AND, UM, THEY WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT, UH, [00:10:02] THAT LOT WAS PART OF THE CHURCH PROJECT AND THEY FOUND OUT IT WASN'T. SO IT WOULDN'T, NOTHING TO DO WITH. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TO THAT EFFECT. PROOF OF CONSENT AGENDA. CORRECT. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? I DO. COMMISSIONER SECONDS. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALL RIGHTY. NEXT ITEM IS, UH, GRAY AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO TONIGHT, EXCUSE ME. AND THAT IS TO ACT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DISCUSSION WE'LL HAVE. I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME PERHAPS, BUT TO ACT AND DISCUSS THE PROCLAMATION, HONORING THE 2011 STATE SEMI-FINAL AND FINAL CHAMPION, LADY JACK RABBITS FROM FORNEY HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEY, UH, WERE PLEASED TO HAVE THEM TONIGHT. YOU WRITE OUR AUDIENCE UP TONIGHT ABOUT, AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND COMMISSIONER CLARK. I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE. UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T TAKE THESE PROCLAMATIONS LIGHTLY. THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND ONE I'VE EVER DONE. BUT, UH, I'VE WATCHED THESE GIRLS PLAY SOFTBALL, AND IF YOU EVER BEEN TO A SOFTBALL GAME IN RECENT YEARS, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. THEY KNOW THE GAME. THEY DON'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES. IT'S VERY FAST PACED. I MEAN, IT'S, THOSE GIRLS, I MEAN, ARE REALLY ATHLETES OUT ON THE FIELD. UH, WHAT IMPRESSED ME WAS THEY DON'T LOSE THEIR COMPOSURE WHEN THEY GET UNDER THE GUN LITTLE BIT. AND THEREFORE, I THINK THEY, THEY'LL MAKE EXCELLENT LEADERS IN THE FUTURE, WHICH WE'RE PART OF OUR THING IS TO, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND LEADERSHIP. AND I WANNA COMMEND ALL YOU GIRLS AND THE COACHES FOR, FOR YOUR SEASON. LEMME READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND I'LL COME OUT THERE. EVERYONE HAVE SOME PICTURES MADE, WHEREAS THE 2011 NEY LADY JACKRABBIT SOFTBALL TEAM ACHIEVED A RECORD OF 37 WINS EIGHT LOSSES, WHEREAS THE 2011 NEY LADY JACKRABBIT SOFTBALL TEAM MEMBERS ARE ALLISON BROWN, HILLARY STEVE TAYLOR, LALO, LAURA MAYBERRY, CHRISTINA BENFORD, BROOKE MCCARROLL, MACY TILLERY, RILEY CHAPEL, ASHLYN LEVITT, MICAH FITZGERALD, TAYLOR PENN, ALLIE MILLER, CHRISTA WILLIAMS, NATALIE MAYHAW, MACY MORGAN, AND JASMINE LUSK. WHEREAS THE 2011 POINT LADIES SOFTBALL TEAM ARE COACHED BY ERIC MONTGOMERY, AUTUMN PETRINO, AND STEVE KERWIN. WHEREAS THE 2011 POINT JACK SOFTBALL TEAM DEFEATED THE DEFENDING STATE CHAMPIONS NINE TO SIX TO ADVANCE TO THE STATE FINALS. WHEREAS THE 20 11 40 Z RAPID SOFTBALL TEAM ARE OUTSTANDING ATHLETES. AND KAMAN COUNTY'S PROUD TO HAVE THEM ASSISTANCE NOW, THEREFORE, THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMERCIAL'S COURT PROUDLY TAKES PLEASURE IN EXTENDING THIS CONGRATULATIONS AND RECOGNITION TO THE 20 11 40 LADY ZACH RAPID SOFTBALL TEAM AT THE 2011 TEXAS STATE. FOUR EIGHT SEMIFINAL CHAMPIONS. LADIES, IF YOU WOULD STAND UP. IS SHE HERE? DESIGN? SHE'S NOT HERE. NOT HERE. SHE'S OUT. SHE'S PRACTICING SOFTBALL. THIS RIGHT HERE OVER SHOULDER. SORRY. AND Y'ALL DONE THIS BEFORE AND I'LL SQUEEZE IT A LITTLE BIT THERE. OKAY. 1, 2, 3. I'M JUST GONNA SIT HERE AND RUN, LET THE MOTOR RUN. MAKE SURE I GET ONE WHEN EVERYBODY DIES, THEY'RE OVER. OKAY. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. OKAY, READY? CHEESEBURGER 1, 2, 3. YES SIR. [00:15:15] ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH LADIES. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY AROUND AS LONG AS YOU'D LIKE. UH, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO DO, YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO LEAVE. YOU'D LIKE TO DO SO. NEXT ITEM. I'M SORRY. ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, FROM LARRY EWING WHO'S GOING TO ASK US TO, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDER PROHIBITING CERTAIN FIREWORKS AND SPECIFIED AREAS OF TALTON COUNTY, TEXAS EVENING. UH, I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THIS, WE'VE DONE IT SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. CODE 3 52 51 AUTHORIZES YOU THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO ADOPT AN ORDER RESTRICTING CERTAIN FIREWORKS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY. UNDER DROUGHT CONDITIONS, THE STATUTE MUST BE ADOPTED FOR JUNE THE 15TH OF EACH YEAR. SO THIS IS OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO IN THE TEXAS FORESTRY SERVICE. DROUGHT CONDITIONS, LANDS EXISTENCE IMMEDIATELY PRECEDED OR DURING THE FIREWORKS SEASON OF THE KE FIRE AND DROUGHT INDEX LEVEL OF 575 OR GREATER. CURRENTLY, WE, UH, WE'RE ADVANCING ABOUT 15 TO 16 POINTS ON THE DROUGHT INDEX SCALE OVER 24 HOURS. WE'RE AT, UH, THE LOW OF 3 59, A HIGH OF 562 AS OF TODAY. SO AS OF TOMORROW, THERE'S NO DOUBT WE'LL BE OVER 5 75 AT SOME POINT IN OUR COUNTY. I ALSO RAN THAT INFORMATION ALL BY OUR ATTORNEY JOHN LONG, WHO AGREED THAT THE WORDING ONLY WHERE IT SAYS EXISTENCE IMMEDIATELY PROCEEDING OR DURING THE FIREWORKS SEASON MEANS THAT WE HAVE A RIGHT. WE PERCEIVE IT TO BE 5 7, 5 OR GREATER BY THAT TIME TO GO AHEAD AND ACT THIS AT THIS TIME. AND THAT'S WHAT I REQUEST THAT WE DO. THE ONLY THING THAT THIS WILL DO IS EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THERE'S ONLY TWO TYPES OF FIREWORKS THAT THIS WILL CURRENTLY RESTRICT AND THE CLASSIFIED UNDER 49 CFR AND THAT ARE SKYROCKETS WITH A STICK OR A MISSILE WITH A FIN. THAT'S THE TWO TYPES THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS BELIEVES CAUSES THE MOST, MOST DAMAGE BECAUSE THEY AT SOME POINT AREN'T CONTROLLABLE, THEREFORE THEY MAY SHOOT OFF AT AN ANGLE INTO SOMETHING OR THEY MAY NOT COMPLETELY BURN IT BEFORE THEY HIT THE GROUND AGAIN. SO AT THIS POINT, THAT'S THE ONLY TWO THAT WE CAN DO ON THIS RESTRICTION. BUT I DO REQUEST THAT THEY GO AHEAD AND RESTRICT THOSE TWO. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE FIREWORKS VENDORS THAT ARE COMING IN, GETTING THE PERMITS EARLY, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING THAT. SO WE'RE NOT MEETING WITH ANY KIND OF RESISTANCE ON IT. WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, PRETTY MUCH ABIDE BY IT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING ALSO. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO TONIGHT, IS TO AND DO THAT. SO I'LL BE ABLE TO STOP THOSE DURING THE FIREWORK CEILING. LARRY, IN THAT REGARD, WE'RE ALREADY BEGINNING TO GET CALLS IN MY OFFICE ABOUT A FIRE BAN. YES, SIR. AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT I SUPPOSE THE KIND OF NUMBERS YOU READ OFF, WE'LL BE GETTING THAT PRETTY. I WAS ACTUALLY TALKING TO COMMISSIONER MANNING AND I WERE TALKING BEFORE THE MEETING TODAY AND TO TALKING ABOUT THAT VERY THING. I'M ON THE AGENDA FOR THE TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY FOR THAT. I BELIEVE WE'LL BE THERE MAYBE FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO THAT. SO, UH, KEEP AN OPEN MIND, I GUESS WOULD BE THE POINT IS, IS THAT IF IT GETS TO THAT POINT CLOSE ENOUGH AND YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO CALL A MEETING, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO IT BEFORE THAT, OTHERWISE IN TWO WEEKS I HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TO DO THAT VERY THING. PEOPLE ARE BEING RELATIVELY SAFE ALREADY. YEAH, THANK YOU. WE, WE'VE HAD A FEW FIRES OF PEOPLE THAT JUST DIDN'T HAVE HEADS SCREWED ON CORRECTLY. BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FIRES EVEN WITH BURN DOWN ON. YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT STILL DO IT AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THE WORD WE GET FROM THEM IS THEY KNOW IT. SO, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T PREVENT FIRES. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK BURN DAM PREVENTS ALL THE FIRES FROM HAPPENING. I WISH IT WAS THAT EASY. HAVE ONE REAL, REAL CONSTANT. BUT, UH, IT DOES MAKE EVERYONE ASK QUESTIONS AT LEAST. AND, AND THE MORE THAT WE'VE DONE THIS OVER THE YEARS ON BURN IN, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE IDEA OF MAYBE WE BETTER CALL FIRST BEFORE WE BURN SOMETHING WHEN IT GETS TO THIS TIME OF THE YEAR. SO IT'S GETTING BETTER AS WE'RE DOING. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE FIRE MARSHAL HEAD DRY. IT'S RIGHT. AND [00:20:01] I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO MAKE TO PEOPLE LONG IS IT DOESN'T MAKE DIFFERENCE. THERE'S A BURN BAND OR NOT A BURN BAND. IF YOUR FIRE GETS OUTTA CONTROL, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. YOU ARE NOT A BURN MAN. SO ABSOLUTELY PEOPLE BEFORE WHENEVER IT CROSSES PROPERTY LINES AND DAMAGE TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY. SO, AND WHENEVER SOMEONE DOES CALL IN A CONDITION LIKE THIS AND SAY THEY LIKE TO BURN SOMETHING, OF COURSE I CAN'T JUST OUT NOW TELL 'EM NO YET, BUT WE MAKE CERTAIN THAT THAT COMES OUT OF OUR MOUTH AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'D BE CROSSING THE PROPERTY LINE AND DAMAGE SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY, THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. SOMEONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR TO MAKE A MOTION? I'D MOTION MR. MOTION SECOND. MR. CLARK SECONDS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OPPOSED. THANK YOU THERE. THANK YOU. I'LL SEE, UH, AT THE VERY LATEST TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY ON THE OTHER. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SIX. I'M SORRY, ITEM NUMBER FIVE. AL JONES SENT TO THE AUDITOR'S REPORT FROM MAY, 2011. AND AL I ASKED YOU WHILE AGO THIS GOOD NEWS IF WE HANDED OUT. YOU GUARANTEE THOSE NUMBERS. I GUARANTEE THAT THEY AGREE. THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. ALRIGHTY, ADAM, NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON COFFEE COUNTY REDISTRICTING AND SET A DATE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S WHERE WE ARE ON THAT. AND UNFORTUNATELY WE DID NOT GET BACK A MAP TODAY THAT WE HAD HOPED TO HAVE THAT WE COULD PRESENT TO YOU. WE DON'T DO WHAT THEY DID IN DALLAS COUNTY THE OTHER DAY WHERE THEY PRESENTED A MAP KIND OF JUST AT THE LAST MINUTE. AND OF COURSE YOU SAW THE REACTION ON TELEVISION ABOUT THAT. WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT A MAP BEFORE WE ADOPT IT. AND, UH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT BACK FROM OUR LAW FIRM. UH, WE THINK WE'RE THERE. UH, AND UH, WHAT I ANTICIPATE, BASED ON WHAT LARRY SAID, THERE IS A CHANCE IF WE GET THAT BACK SOMETIME IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, WE BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF GOING OVER THAT FINAL MAP AND THEN SETTING A DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, BECAUSE THE SOONER WE GET OUR PART, UH, UH, THE SOONER THE, UH, WE CAN GET IT SUBMITTED TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO FOLKS CAN START WORK ON THE, UH, VOTING BOXES. THAT'S THE NEXT STEP OF THIS. BUT WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT UNTIL WE ADOPT OUR, UH, OUR, OUR PRECINCT BOUNDARIES. SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. IT IS GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT MAP A WAS THAT SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE LOOKED LIKE WITH A FEW CHANGES, INCLUDING, UH, YOUR INCLUDING ALL AND THEN A COUPLE OF CHANGES. I THINK PRECINCT TWO, UH, IN THAT LITTLE, UH, DID PRECINCT ONE AND FOUR, YOU WORK THAT OUT? YEAH, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, IT'S, WE THINK, SO. I BELIEVE IT LOOKS ALMOST, ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THE ORIGINAL PLAN. A PLAN A VIRGINIA, WITH THE EXCEPTION TO PUTTING ALL THE CITY OF TRAIL IN THE CITY OF TER ALL THE CITY OF MUSK AND THE CITY OF MESQUITE. THAT'D BE THE ONLY TWO CHANGES TO PLAN COMMISSIONER MANNING. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING TO THE PEOPLE OF BECKER OUT THERE, THEY MADE A SIMPLE REQUEST US THAT THEIR LITTLE COMMUNITY BE PUT INTO ONE PRECINCT. AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS THROWING ALL THIS OUT OF WHACK. WE HAD IT ALL, WE HAD IT ALL IN PRECINCT FOUR AND THAT THREW HIS NUMBERS OUT OF BACK AND MY NUMBERS OUT OF WHACK. SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE HAD TO END UP SORT OF SPLITTING IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. SOME OF 'EM IN PRECINCT FOUR, SOME OF 'EM ARE IN PRECINCT ONE, SO THEY'RE GONNA, IF ANY OF YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT FROM BECKER, THEY'RE GONNA BE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THAT. IT SIMPLY, UH, IT JUST SIMPLY WOULDN'T WORK WITH, UH, WITH IT ALL IN ONE. IT HAD TO BE DIVIDED UP WITH ALL THE OTHER NUMBERS. SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT. WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO DO IS TO POSTPONE THAT IF SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION WITH THE IDEA THAT WE MAY HAVE, MAY NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL IF GET THAT INFORMATION IN. I MAKE A MOTION GET INFORMATION. COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER ROUTE. SECOND STAFF. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES, I'LL, I'LL PASS THIS OUT THERE AND IF THE PLAN A WILL BE BASICALLY LIKE THIS SO PEOPLE CAN START, I'D LIKE GIVE THIS [00:25:01] BACK FROM THE MEETINGS OVER WHATEVER THAT WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT IT. YOU'LL KIND OF GET THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND AS SOON AS WE GET INFORMATION, WE'LL, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, ALL FOLKS. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR REDUCTION IN FORCE, UH, FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY EMPLOYEES. AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HANDED, UH, OUT TO YOU AT THE LAST MEETING. UH, UNFORTUNATELY JOHN LONG, WHO'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS, UH, WAS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US TONIGHT BECAUSE OF, UH, HEALTH, UH, RELATED ISSUES HE'S HAD. HE'S BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL THE LAST FEW DAYS AND, UH, SO HE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE. AND I, I ASKED, UH, UH, MIKE PELLEN, OUR DA TO, TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND I GUESS PINCH IT FOR YOUR ASSISTANT. UH, DOING THE BEST I CAN, DOING A GOOD JOB. AND, UH, LOOK, I ASKED MIKE TO LOOK THIS OVER TODAY AND I THINK HE MAY HAVE TALKED WITH JOHN, OR I KNOW HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS DISCUSS. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER, UH, OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THIS WILL WORK AND I THINK WE'VE GOT IT FINE TUNED DOWN TO AS MUCH AS WE, UH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT, UH, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE DOCUMENT WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER DAY. I HATE TO KEEP PUTTING THIS OFF AND BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON, AND EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE TO FINAL DOCUMENT, I THINK WE CAN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, DO THE TWEAKS BETWEEN, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND, UH, JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN AND MYSELF. I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THIS THING WORK, UH, BASED ON THE GUIDELINES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM JOHN AT THIS POINT. COMMISSIONER? YES SIR. I DON'T, DON'T SEE WHY ANY LONGER ON THIS EITHER. 'CAUSE THE SOONER WE IMPLEMENT THIS, THE SOONER WILL START SAVING MONEY. RIGHT. AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE POSTPONE IT TWO WEEKS NOW. DON'T POSTPONE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. SO, UH, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE, THE COUNTY TREASURER AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PROCEED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ADMINISTRATION OF THE 2011 KAMAN COUNTY REDUCTION ENFORCE INCENTIVE POLICY, INCLUDING REALLOCATION OF EXISTING PERSONNEL POSITIONS. OKAY. SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND. UH, COMMISSIONER MANNY, ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND AS SOON AS WE CAN, WE WILL GET STARTED ON IT. AND, UH, MR. MCCLELLAN, YOU'LL, UH, YOU AND I MAY NEED TO TALK SOME AS, UH, AS SOON AS WE CAN TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE GET OFF ON THE RIGHT TRACK. I, I THINK WE EXPECT JOHN WILL BE BACK, UH, AT WORK FAIRLY, FAIRLY SOON BASED ON THE HE SHOULD BE, YES. YEAH. NEED TO KEEP JOHN IN THERE PRAYERS BY THE WAY AS WELL. SO THIS ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY. IT'LL, THIS GETS US CENTER ALL ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ACCEPTING BEDROOM LANE AS THE COUNTY ROAD, COFFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. THAT'S COMMISSIONER. I'LL PUT THAT ON. WE TALKED ABOUT IT SOME LAST WEEK AND, UH, I WAS HOPING JOHN WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT. WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT PROBABLY WE NEED TO ASK. UH, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL DISCUSS IT AND SEE WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO GO WITH IT. UH, ANNETTE, UH, MS. LARSON, WOULD YOU MIND, UH, MS. LARSON LIVES OUT THERE AND, UH, HAS BEEN HANDLING THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, WORK OF THAT END OF IT. AND, UH, THIS MAY BE A LONG PROCESS NOW, I DUNNO WHEN, BUT THIS IS REALLY GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE JOHN'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, UH, UH, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? EASEMENT EASEMENTS. I CAN'T THINK OF THAT WORD. UH, ABOUT THE EASEMENTS, WHETHER WE CAN JUST USE A, A BLANK ONE AND FILL IT IN OR WHETHER JOHN HAS TO DRAW THAT UP. SO, UH, THE QUESTION WAS THAT I HAD WAS, OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ARE FOR THAT ROAD BEING BUILT UP INTO OUR, UH, SPECIFICATIONS. AND I DON'T CONSIDER THAT A SUBDIVISION BECAUSE IT'S NEVER BEEN FORMALLY SET UP AS A SUBDIVISION. AND I TALKED TO JOHN ABOUT THAT. HE SAID HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A SUBDIVISION EITHER. SO WHAT WE AGREED ON WAS FOR YOU ALL TO COME UP WITH $4,000 AND, UH, WE COULD ROCK THE ROAD JUST LIKE IT IS AND THEN TAKE CARE OF IT AND SMOOTH IT OUT. UH, THE THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO WORK ON ARE AN AGREEMENT AS TO HOW THE PEOPLE ARE GONNA PAY THAT BACK. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ALL PAID IN ONE YEAR. UH, WE'LL WORK WITH EVERYBODY AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THAT THOUGH. [00:30:01] UH, IF THERE WERE OTHER QUESTIONS, DID YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, RAY, ABOUT ANY OF THAT? WELL, I THINK I'LL HAVE TO HAVE THAT DEDICATED EVEN BECAUSE I'VE GOT A COUPLE ROADS OVER THERE THAT DIRE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME THING DONE TO. YEAH. SO I'D LIKE, I'D BE A LEARNING PROCESS FOR ME TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO THIS. WELL, WE MAY, WE MAY STILL HAVE TO TALK. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS WHEN ONCE YOU MAKE IT COUNTY ROAD, YOU HAVE NO CONTROL WHO CAN DRIVE THAT DOWN. YEAH. THEY WON'T GO TOO FAR. . IT'S ONLY A HALF A MILE LONG, SO IT'S NOT, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY HOW PEOPLE RUNNING DOWN, DRIVING DOWN THERE AT NIGHT TO PARK AND ALL OF THAT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL ROADS ARE LIKE THAT. WE, WE, WE OVERCOME THAT. SO, BUT ANYWAY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THIS FOR ME HAS BEEN A FOUR YEAR LONG PROCESS AND I RELY ON THAT ROAD TO GET TO AND FROM WORK. MY CONCERN IS WHEN IT'S NOT, UM, FUNCTIONAL, IT COULD AFFECT, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING DOWN THERE. UM, MS. ROSEANNE MORROW AND MR. DON WEBB WHO HAVE GIVEN UP RIGHTS TO THE EASEMENTS ARE HERE AND MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES. I HOPE I SPEAK CORRECTLY, BUT IT'S MY LIVELIHOOD AND I'VE GOT BOYS THAT ATTEND THE COFFIN SCHOOLS AND THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE I GOT STUCK AND IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH OTHER FAMILIES TO KIND OF COORDINATE. WE'VE DONE VERY WELL, I THINK. YEAH. AND WHETHER IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD OR A COUNTY ROAD, PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO ANYWAY. AND I, I, I HAVE TRUE CONCERNS FOR MY LIVELIHOOD AND MY CHILDREN, MY FAMILY. WELL, IT'S A SAFETY FACTOR TOO, BUT THE AMBULANCE COULDN'T GET UP AND DOWN IT SOMETIMES OF THE YEAR OR A FIRE TRUCK COULDN'T GET UP AND DOWN IT. UH, AND UH, I'M READY TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP YOU, BUT THE LEGAL PROCESS IS, IS JUST A LITTLE BIT SLOW. SO WE'RE STILL GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT. OKAY. WELL I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, HOW MANY FAMILIES DO YOU HAVE HERE ON ROAD? UH, FIVE FA AREN'T THERE FIVE FAMILIES OUT THERE ON THAT? YES SIR. AND THEY ALL, THEY ALL, YEAH. AND EVERYBODY HAS AGREED EVERYBODY WILL SIGN THE EASEMENT AND, AND ALL OF THAT. THERE ARE FOUR FAMILIES AND ONE LANDOWNER AND I OWN THE LAND, UH, ALL THE LAND IN THE ROAD. YEAH. UNDER FAMILY PARTNERSHIP. SO I'LL HAVE A COUPLE QUESTION, BUT EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT TO GO ALONG WITH THIS IF THIS, UH, IF WE, UH, IF WE SEE FIT TO, TO DO THIS. UM, THE ONLY THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HIS, UH, ABOUT THOSE EASEMENTS, ABOUT HOW THEY'RE TO BE WORDED, IF, IF THERE'S A JUST A, A MANUAL EASEMENT THAT I COULD USE TO DO THAT, WOULD DO THAT. AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT A, A SURVEY AND HE, HE WAS TO LOOK INTO THAT AND HE WAS GONNA GIMME THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT. SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING, I'M JUST TRYING TO TAKE IT OVER TO ROCK ROAD, THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO. IT. IT'LL, IT'LL BE A ROCK ROAD FROM NOW ON AND UH, IF YOU'LL KEEP THE MAINTENANCE UP ON IT SO THEY CAN JUST KEEP THE MAINTENANCE UP ON IT SO THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT. YEAH, ALL WE GOT THERE, THEY'RE GONNA PAY THEM TO BREAK TO PUT A OH, COUPLE INCHES OF ROCK ON IT, A PART OF IT ANYWAY. SOME OF IT HAS ROCK ON IT ALREADY. IT IS. ALL RIGHT. BUT WHEN IT RAINS, A LITTLE RUN THROUGH AT IT, SO THEY'RE GONNA PAY FOR THAT. WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA MAINTAIN IT AND DO SOME DITCHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FROM JOHN, UH, THEY'VE AGREED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT OUT TO 'EM, UH, I JUST HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PAYMENT PLAN TO SEE HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT AND TO FIGURE OUT ABOUT THOSE EASEMENTS. UH, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT'S OKAY TODAY, IF WE CAN WITH AND GET THAT OTHER INFORMATION FROM JOHN WHENEVER HE COMES IN. IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. BUT, UH, ANY OTHER PENDING IN RECEIPT OF ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AND APPROVAL BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M WAITING ON, JOHN. NOT THOSE. I JUST WANNA SEE IF THE EASEMENTS CAN JUST BE A BLANK EASEMENT THAT THEY COULD FIGURE OUT. FILL THAT IN. AND DO THEY NEED TO MAKE A SURVEY? IT MAY BE MS. LARSON MAY BE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, A SURVEYOR COME OUT AND SURVEY THAT PART OF IT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE INFORMATION IS CORRECT. MAY I APPROACH? SURE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME. NO, YOU, THAT'S JUST STEP UP HERE. MY NAME IS JASON ER, AND, UH, I LIVE ON THE LAND ALSO AND AS FAR AS A A, A SURVEY THERE'S BEEN WITH, UH, MR. WEBB AND I, WE, WE HAD ALL OUR LAND SETTLED OUT. SO WE HAVE A PARTIAL SURVEY AS FAR AS WE HAVE A FULL SURVEY OF THE LAND THAT IS UNDER THE ROAD AND OF MY PROPERTY AREA AND WE, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO HELP, UH, SPEED UP THE PROCESS BECAUSE, UH, THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA ASK IF, IF, UH, YOU COULD CONSIDER IF YOU, IF YOU ACCEPT IT TODAY, THAT'D BE GREAT. IF NOT, THE ROAD IS IN REALLY [00:35:01] BAD DAMAGE WHILE WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON IT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT MIGHT BE SOME KIND OF A, UH, EMERGENCY OR, OR YOU KNOW, KIND OF SPEED UP THE PROCESS BECAUSE THE, THE VEHICLES ARE BEING YEAH. TORE UP AND HAD TO PAY $400 FOR AN OIL VAN AND SUCH AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IT'S STILL PRIVATE PROPERTY AND I'M REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY EVEN WITH YOUR PERMISSION. SO YES SIR. THAT PART TURNS INTO A LITTLE PROBLEM, BUT, UH, WE'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS GO FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. YES SIR. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT SURVEY IF YOU COULD GET IT TO ME OR GIVE IT TO NF YOU GET IT TO ME OR WHATEVER. WE'LL ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL LOOK THAT OVER AND SEE. HOW OLD IS THAT? DO YOU KNOW THE SURVEY IS WITHIN THE YEAR MR. WITH YES, IT'S WITHIN THE YEAR, SIR. OH, OKAY. THAT THAT WE MIGHT COULD MAKE THAT WORK THEN. OKAY. BUT ANYWAY, THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS I NEED TO DO BROWN. THOSE ARE THINGS I YES, I SPEAK FORWARD. YEAH, I COME UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME IF YOU WOULD. YEAH, MY NAME IS ROSEANNE MARROW AND I OWN THE LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND ACTUALLY I OWN HEAVEN ROAD. AND AGAIN, I BROUGHT YOU THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR. OH, DO WE STILL HAVE THAT? I THINK SHE MADE A COPY OF IT. OKAY. I HOPE YOU DID. IT DIDN'T. IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE PART OF THE ROAD THAT IS IN MY, ON MY SURVEY. OKAY. CAROL MAY HAVE THAT THEN. WE'LL THAT, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, I STILL HAVE THAT SURVEY AND IT'S, I GET WITH YOU. IF WE DON'T, IT'S I GUESS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS OLD. OKAY. BUT IT'S BASED ON THE EASEMENT THAT GOES BACK TO 1901. WELL, UH, I TALKED TO JOHN ABOUT ALL THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT ANYWAY, ALRIGHT. UH, BUT WE VERY MUCH WOULD LIKE FOR THAT. I KNOW WE WOULD, I I'VE SEEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE TIME. SOMETIMES IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD, BUT AFTER THE RAIN IT DOESN'T LOOK BAD FROM THE FRONT FROM NEAR 25 78, BUT ABOUT MIDWAY DOWN IS THAT SITUATION ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ON THIS THING. I WOULD JUST, IT WHEN I STARTED THIS, THIS SEEMS SO SIMPLE. NOTHING. I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GONNA HAVE TO, UH, GET THE ATTORNEY GENERAL UP HERE . BUT ANYWAY, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, OKAY THIS WITH THE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'LL GET THE OTHER INFORMATION FROM JOHN WHEN HE GETS BACK. AND UH, THE THING THAT MAKES IT FOR ME ANYWAY IS THAT, UH, IT DOESN'T ME, OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, JOHN SAID HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A SUBDIVISION BECAUSE IT HAD NEVER BEEN FULLY OR, UH, OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED AS A SUBDIVISION. IT'S JUST SOME LAND OUT IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS BEEN SUBDIVIDED. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE I WOULD ASK, UH, MR. MCCLELLAN, IS IT, IS IT LEGAL FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THAT WITHOUT ANY DEFINITE FIELD NOTES OR SURVEY? I, UH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WOULD SAY YOU WOULD WANT THE FIELD NOTES IN THE SURVEY, UM, THE NEWEST ONES THAT YOU CAN GET IF THEY'VE GOT ONE THAT'S LESS THAN YEAR. UH, I, I WOULD SAY YOU WOULD NEED AT LEAST THAT, UH, IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO GO AND HAVE A BRAND NEW SURVEY ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE LINES ARE IN THE RIGHT SPOT. SURE. I DON'T MIND IF WE, IF WE HAVE TO, WE'LL GET THEIR SURVEY AND UH, MAYBE GET WHAT Y'ALL ON AND SEE IF WE NEED TO DO A I REALIZE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE HERE, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET US IN A VAN. OH, I DON'T EITHER. I CAN'T. WELL, BUT CAN, CAN, CAN WE, CAN WE PASS THIS THEN, DEPENDING ON WHAT JOHN FIND OUT? THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO COMMISSION COURT APPROVAL BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY DETAIL. IF WE CAN DO THAT, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. WE WON'T, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULDN'T MAKE ANY MOVEMENT ON IT. YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY MOVE UNTIL THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. YEAH, BECAUSE WE PASS THAT RIGHT. WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET, UH, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT JOHN THINKS WE NEED. UH, IF IT WAS ME, I WOULDN'T. OKAY, NOW THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ADVICE. THAT'S YES SIR. I BELIEVE YOU EARLIER THE SURVEY, BECAUSE THE SURVEY I HAVE IS FOR 50 FOOT EASEMENT AND I OWN THAT LAND. SO IF, UH, MS. MORROW OWNS HALF THE EASEMENT THAT IT MUST BE A HUNDRED FOOT EASEMENT AND WE DON'T HAVE A SURVEY OF SHOWING THAT. SURE. OKAY. WELL, AND AND IT'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. OKAY. MAYBE WITHIN THE TIME WE GET THAT DONE WE CAN SPEED IT UP AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL OUR JUNE, WHATEVER THAT IS. JUNE. WELL, BY THAT TIME WE'LL KNOW ABOUT ALL. YEAH, THAT'D BE FINE. I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT WE WANT MAKE SURE THAT'S NO LEGAL PITCHES. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. IF YOU WANT TO JUST, UH, TAKE NO ACTION, TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT, THEN WE'LL RESCHEDULE IT FOR LATER HERE. WE'LL JUST POSTPONE, WILLING TO PUT THAT IN FORMAL MOTION. [00:40:01] I'LL MOVE THAT. WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS. WE HAVE A MOTION THIS TIME. MAY I SAY ONE DAY? SURE. I APOLOGIZE FOR MY DEAL OF THIS. UH, I I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UH, IF, AND I HAVEN'T CONSULTED ALL MY NEIGHBORS, BUT I'M JUST ASKING AND I CAN FIND OUT LATER, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT UH, MAYBE WE CAN AFFORD TO BETWEEN ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO MAYBE HAVE ONE DUMP TRUCK OR SOMETHING, PUT IT IN THE BAD SPOTS FOR NOW, WOULD THAT BE TAKEN OFF OF THE TOTAL BILL TO HELP THE GET IT BACK UP TO PAR OR SOMETHING? UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S $400 AND THEN WE ONLY OWE YOU 32 OR SOMETHING? NO, BECAUSE I THINK I HAD 36 PRETTY MUCH LOW RATED THAT THE AMOUNT THAT WAS GONNA HAVE TO BE ON THERE. SO I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND STICK WITH THAT AND GO ON WITH THAT. OKAY. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MIGHT HIRE YOU A AS LONG AS IT'S, IF IT IS REALLY BAD, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU HIRE YOUR PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, HIRE YOU A LITTLE JAGGED ROCK IN THERE AND DO IT LIKE THAT . RIGHT. WELL THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE, THE PRICING 'CAUSE THAT'S STILL REALLY HIGH AND I'M PAYING LAND TAXES. I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT PRICE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE LOW ANYWAY, SO I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA STICK WITH THAT AND GO FROM THERE. YES SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION MR. RED? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND CLARK SECONDS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OPPOSED. ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY STATE FOR THAT AND THE SHERIFF AND THE PERSON DIRECTOR AND WE'LL CLOSE THE UH, MEETING TO THE PUBLIC HERE. IF YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME, STAY AROUND IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO SO. MOTION ENTERED EXECUTIVE SESSION. SAY JUDGE, CAN I OBJECTION. WE MOTION WE INTO RECORD. AND SECOND, ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. AND YOU HAVE A MOTION ABOUT WHAT WE DID IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO ACTION. MAY WE? NO. ACTION. NO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. COMMISSIONER. UH, MAN. MAN. NOT I. UH, THEN COMMISSIONER JACKSON. ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER IS MY FAVORITE PART. YES SIR. ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS ONLY SAVE FOR THE END JUDGE. WE PROPOSED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS IN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE TO INCREASE OFFICE SUPPLIES. HUNDRED $50 REDUCTION IN BONDS. COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE MOVED $500 FROM INDEXING RECORDING OF KNOWLEDGE, MEALS AND LODGING. PUBLIC DEFENDER MOVED NINE $23 IN TRAINING EDUCATION. CONFERENCE TO DOS UNDER GENERAL GOVERNMENT MOVED 25,000 FROM HEALTH INSURANCE TO 20,000 IN COMMUNICATION FOR LANDLINES. 5,000 FOR ATTORNEY FEE AND COURT COSTS. JB FOUR MOVED $400 FROM TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE TO MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. MOVED 2000 JUST BETWEEN LOCATIONS FOR JANITORIAL SERVICE. CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR $1,500 FROM NEW EQUIPMENT TO UNIFORMS, CONVENIENCE STATION $50 FROM OFFICE SUPPLIES TO MISCELLANEOUS COMMISSIONER. PRECINCT TWO MOVE 30,000 FROM NEW EQUIPMENT TO LEASE PAYMENTS OR NEW EQUIPMENT. PROBATE EDUCATION FUND MOVED 600 FROM TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE TO MILEAGE MEALS AND LODGING. SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION MOVED 8,700 FROM HOLLY. COST GERALD TO HOLOCAUST, KAUFMAN AND JUSTICE COURT BUILDING SECURITY FUND. MOVED 2000 FROM OFFICE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT TO KNOWLEDGE MILL AND LODGING 1500 IN TRAINING, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE. 500 AND LONE STAR LIBRARIES MOVED 500 FROM BOOKS TO TRAINING, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE. [00:45:01] ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS IN JUVENILE PROBATION FOR CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL STATE FUNDS. 4,907 BE USED FOR SECURE PLACEMENT AND THEN GOLDEN BRIDGE PRECINCT FOUR CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR SETTLE EQUIPMENT. $4,500 TO USE THE ROAD MATERIALS. OKAY, THE UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFER IS RECOMMENDED BY THE AUDITOR TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SO MAY COMMISSIONER MANNY MAKES THAT MOTION. COMMISSIONER AND SECOND MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON CLAIM FOR PAPER. DID YOU NEED A COPY LLOYD? DID YOU WANT COPY THAT WAKE UP ATTENDED? I SAID THAT. YEAH, Y'ALL TRYING TO CONFUS ME LAST WEEK YOU DIDN'T ON AND WE TOLD THEM NOT TO WEAR OUT DIDN'T THEY? THEY SAID PERSON. WELL I DIDN'T GET THAT MEMO. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. HEARD. I APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP. DID YOU HEAR THAT? I THINK I APPRECIATE THAT. ALRIGHT. YOU NO MORE? NO MORE. SEE I TOLD JACK NO COLOR TIE. HE SHOWS UP. EVERYBODY'S GOTTA COME TO TIE . I WAS, I COME AROUND HIS CAR, I WAS LIKE I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU SHOW UP. IT'S A TRICK. I HAD LET HIM A STRIKE. YES YOU DID. MY WIFE ASKED ME WHEN I LEFT THE HOUSE, SHE SAID YOU GONNA WEAR A COAT TIE? I SAID, WELL I HAVE IT IN THE PICKUP. I WAS THE, IT'S THE HECK PUT ON. I'M NOT THROUGH WITH IT YET. I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO PUT ON IT. I ORDERED, I ORDERED UH, TWO CANS. DOES IT WORK? OKAY. AND ANY PROBLEM? YEAH. YEAH I GET FIXED, WE GET BACK, GET BUSY COMMISSION. I WAS KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT THAT ROAD. I GUESS WE'RE PAYING FOR TENFOLD BILLS WITH CREDIT CARD. IS THAT WHAT THE JP MORGAN SOMEBODY COMMUNICATION BILL LIKE 1 99 FOR A MONTH. I WAS HOPING YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT COMMISSIONER THAT YOU WAS THAT YOUR CREDIT CARD OR WHAT THAT IS FOR? UH, THAT FOR PHONE EQUIPMENT. I USED TO WORK FOR YOU OTHER DAY. SHE ABOUT TO WORK. YES. [00:50:02] CLIPS WITH THE BELT CLIPS. YEAH. YOUR PHONE WILL COME OUT JERRY. HALF MILE. HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH? UH, ROCK. NOT ENOUGH. IT JUST LIKE SOME THAT'S KIND OF BACK AND FORTH SO, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST DEAL RIGHT. CARL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? OH NO, . OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY REST FROM THE JP. I KNEW, I KNEW, I KNEW THAT WAS BAD. I WITH, I KNEW [00:55:02] THE JP COLLECTION 10 SOMETIME YEAR. IS IT REALLY? JUDGE, I WAS HANDSOME THIS WEEKEND FOR FAMILY MEETING. OH WERE YOU? YES. FIRST RELATIONSHIP. SO HE, AND WE GOT A NOT ON THE WE ON THE NOZZLE THING. KEY READS IT STAYS HOT. TURN THE SWITCH ON YOUR OFFICE SOMEWHERE SO IT TELLS AND SOME WAY IT READ THAT AND TRANSFERS IT. MAYBE OUR GUYS OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WENT OUT. BUT ANYWAY, EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS A DIFFERENT KEY. YOU KNOW, SHELLY COMES BY, SHELL COME BY, SHELL COMES BACK 60 I THOUGHT YOU SAID. AND THEN I CAN TURN THE VIDEO THAT WE TURN WHEN SOMEBODY GETS THERE IN THE, UNLESS WE THE SHOP, WE LAY THE SHOP, LOCK THE GATES AND HE'S RIDING AROUND. BUT MAYBE WE HANDLE THAT [01:00:01] 13 MOTORCYCLE. I HAD TO MOTORCYCLE AND ALL THAT STUFF. MOTORCYCLE NORTH. I GET AWAY FROM MY HOUSE, TURN AROUND 31 DAYS. MILES, MILES, CONNECTICUT. WE WENT ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE NORTHERN PART OF THE UNITED STATES, PACIFIC OCEAN IN WASHINGTON AND THEY CAME ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN AND CAUGHT UH, TEXAS AND AND THEN GOT ON UH, 2 87, WHICH GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO AND GOT 45. OH, I WATCHED PART OF THAT THE OTHER NIGHT. YEAH, IT KIND, I ALMOST FELL OFF THE MOUNTAIN. I DID GOING AND SO I PULL UP, TAKE PICTURE AND UH, AND SO BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE CAN I GET OFF AND IT AND IT'S SLAMMED AND MY BACK STARTS DOING THIS NUMBER AND STARTS TILTING AND, AND I'M, AND I'M DOING THE STEPS, THE LEFT FOOT TRYING TO HOLD UP SLOW DOWN EDGE OVER THERE. DROP THOUSAND, NO GUARD, NOTHING. I GOT TRYING TO GET BACK UP THAT TWO PLACES. MY DAD ALWAYS AND I GOT REMARRIED AND THEN WHEN I, THEN SHE PASSED AWAY AND THEN A FEW MONTHS AFTER SHE PASSED AWAY, I GO FOR LAST FIVE YEARS ON LONG GOING MY, HE ONLY GOT TWO BIG ONES. [01:05:07] THE SATELLITE CHANNEL 13, ALL THERE'S PLUS GOT STUFF ON THE STATION. I'M NOT SURE WHERE. I DID KNOW NORTH CONNECTICUT. CONNECTICUT NORTH. ANYWAY, DOWN TO TIMES SQUARE AND BROADWAY. GOT GREAT PICTURE, LIBERTY, ALL THAT STUFF. AND THEN MY NEXT JOB AFTER THAT IS I WENT TO COURSE I READY TO GO. EVERYBODY'S TO PAY THE BILLS. I SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MAN TO THAT MOTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 12 IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING. SO MADE COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER MAN. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE FORMAL POLICY ON, I KNOW JAY AND I KNOW IT, BUT NOW, WELL I THINK DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WE TAKE A ADDRESS. COOL. OR WHAT DO YOU THINK THE SUMMER MONTHS START? APRIL. APRIL. APRIL, JUNE WHAT? SEPTEMBER. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.