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WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD SEE FAVOR AND VESSEL WITH REIGN, MUCH NEEDED REIGN.
THEN FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN UPON THIS COURT AND LOOK DOWN UPON THE JONES, THE SYSTEM, THIS COURT, UH, VESSEL WITHOUT DECISION THAT WILL BE MADE HERE TODAY AND THAT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY AND ALL.
SO FOR THE TAXPAYERS, THEN, FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD LOOK OVERSEAS AND PROTECT OUR TRUTH, THAT A STANDING HOME WAY, THAT WE MAY HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY ON ALL THIS IN OUR SON, JESUS NAME I ALLEGIANCE TO IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION AN INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I ALLEGIANCE TO THE ONE STATE, ONE INVIS.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, WELCOME EVERYONE THIS MORNING TO OUR MEETING AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME SIGN IN SHEETS ON THE TABLE THERE.
AND, UH, HE'S WALKING THE DOOR.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, SPEAK TO THE COURT, UH, NOW BE THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME GUESTS THAT ARE HERE THIS MORNING FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND, UH, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD NOW AFTER FILL OUT A FORM, ESPECIALLY YOU GOT GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT RAIN COMING OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ROUTINE, UH, CORRESPONDENCE.
I DID HAVE SOME ITEMS, UH, FOR YOU THIS MORNING.
WE DO HAVE OUR LATEST EMPLOYEE ACCOUNT, AND I REMIND YOU THIS CHANGES, UH, YOU KNOW, WEEKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE COME AND GO.
AND, UH, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, AS OF, UH, JULY THE 18TH, WHICH, UH, LAST, UH, WEEK, UH, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 474, UH, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
THESE ARE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PAID BY THE COUNTY THAT COME FROM COUNTY FUNDS.
AND THEN WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 26, UH, PART-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PAID BY THE COUNTY.
SO THAT GIVES US A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 500 EMPLOYEES.
AND THAT CHANGES, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE I KNOW, PARTICULARLY RIGHT NOW AT THE JAIL, THEY'RE HOLDING OPEN SEVERAL POSITIONS.
AND DEPENDING UPON OUR POPULATION AT THE JAIL, WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED, UH, OUT COUNTY PRISONERS NOW THAT WE'RE HOLDING FOR OTHER COUNTIES.
COUNTY, I BELIEVE HUNT COUNTY.
ONE TIME, I, WE HAD SOME FROM, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE, BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE, UH, BOTTOM OF THIS SHEET AND IT GIVES YOU THE EMPLOYEE COUNT FOR COFFMAN COUNTY.
AND AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS THE MOST UPTODATE COUNT WE HAVE.
THE OTHER ITEM, ANOTHER ITEM THAT YOU HAVE IS A COPY OF THE HEALTH MATTERS REPORT.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE JUST ENOUGH COPIES FAR THE COURT, THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT CAME AS A PART OF A BENEFIT PACKAGE FOR THE COUNTY AND DID, UH, BLOOD WORK.
WELL, WE HAD 142 OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT PARTICIPATED MORE, MORE FEMALE THAN MALE.
UH, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, WE DID HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT, UH, SHOWED, UH, WHERE THERE WAS MAYBE THEIR BLOOD COUNT WAS, WAS, UH, MAYBE NOT WHAT IT SHOULD BE IN SOME AREAS.
AND I BELIEVE WE DID HAVE ONE AREA, UH, MALE GENTLEMAN THAT THESE ARE ALL, WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE, BUT THESE ARE ALL ANONYMOUS, UH, UH, PARTICIPANTS OF COURSE.
BUT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE HIPA GUIDELINES, WE DID HAVE ONE THAT, UH, SHOWED UP BEING POLICY FOR PROSTATE CANCER.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS OVERALL FOR EMPLOYEES AND HOPEFUL WE'LL LET HAVE EVEN MORE THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS NEXT YEAR AS SO, YOU KNOW, JUDGE THAT, UM, I HAD THAT DONE AND IT SHOWED THAT, UH, THYROID EXPLAIN WHAT HE SAID.
HE SAID, IT'LL, IT'LL CAUSE YOU TO BE, UH, IRRITABLE AND UPSET.
BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE WORKING ON, WE'RE GOOD.
THEN THE NEXT ITEM I HAD THAT WE JUST, UH, RECEIVED RECENTLY WAS AN UPDATE ON THE, UH, CITY OF TERRELL, THE LAKE ELMO, WHERE THE CITY IS, UH, TRYING TO GET FUNDING FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.
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UH, THIS IS FROM, UH, JIM, UH, FROM THE STATE CONSERVATION SALVADOR SALINAS, AND, UH, SAID THAT REHABILITATION PLANNING FUNDS WERE REQUESTED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2012.REHABILITATION WILL LIKELY INVOLVE INCREASING PRINCIPLE IN THE SPILLWAY CAPACITY AND RAISING THE TOP OF THE, UH, DAM ELEVATION.
UH, AND IT'S, IT'S ON, YOU KNOW, WITH A FEDERAL BUDGET BEING LIKE IT IS WHO, WHO KNOWS WHAT THIS WAS LINED UP.
HE DOES SAY, WE'LL BE NOTIFIED THAT FUNDING IS RECEIVED FOR THIS UH, DAM.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS, UH, ONE THAT WE, IF YOU REMEMBER EARLIER FOR A MONTH TWO AGO, WE, WE DID, UH, SHOW A LETTER OF SUPPORT, I BELIEVE FOR ENDEAVOR.
NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
YOU HAVE THE ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES.
UH, ALSO ITEM B IS THE DISCUSSION.
ITEM B IS DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING VEGETATION OF DANNY GAMMON FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING TAX SALE OF CAUSE NUMBER 6 2 3 88 ON LOTS, UH, 44 TO 45 BLOCK ONE OF THE FAGAN EDITION IN
AND JUST ALSO ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING THE REQUEST FROM THE ELMORE WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION TO BO COUNTY ROAD 3 48 TO INSTALL A METER ALONG IN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE AGENDA ITEMS? MOVE WE MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER CLARK.
DID WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA? SECOND, UH, SECOND TIME ON THE SECOND I BETWEEN COMMISSIONER MANN JACKSON, YOUR END UP SO WE'LL.
I MEAN NOT RAISE WILL TO RECOGNIZE YOU.
JC DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UH, NO, IT'S JUST COUPLE IN MY PRECINCT AND I CHANGED SOMETHING THAT NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE AND UNDER THE ROAD.
TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE SOME ISSUES.
IT'S GONNA THE CHURCH THOUSAND TAXES PEOPLE.
YEAH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON SECOND.
DO WE, UH, ONLY IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS AN UPDATE FROM TDO ON ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY.
AND I ASKED TO UH, UH, HAVE SOME ITEMS TODAY ABOUT THE DRIVER COUNTY.
IN FACT, THERE'S SOME DON'T WANNA GO DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE THERE IS LOTS OF WORK GOING.
YOU WANNA TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? WELL ACTUALLY I WANTED ASK, UH, FULLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
GOOD MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, I BROUGHT YOU SOME HANDOUTS.
ALRIGHT, WELL RANK CONTACTED ME LATE LAST WEEK.
SO THESE ARE A LITTLE OLD, BUT YOU'LL GIVE US SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.
THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THOUGH IS THE, THE GOOD NEWS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT SHOWING ON YOUR MAP, BUT IT'S SHOWING IN YOUR SPREADSHEET, UH, CITY KAUFMAN AND KAUFMAN COUNTY HAVE WORKED REAL HARD TO GET THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE 34 RELOCATION FUNDED.
IF YOU'LL GO ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY DOWN YOUR FRONT PAGE ON THEIR TABLE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PORTION FROM 2 43 TO 1 75 WAS FUNDED WITH THE REGIONAL TOLL REVENUE FUNDS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN.
AND THEN RECENTLY, UH, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND I FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT TO DO PASS THROUGH FUNDING NORTHERN SECTION FROM UM, 1 75 BACK DOWN TO 34 SOUTH OF 1388.
SO, UM, THE PROJECT IS IN THE WORKS.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, I KNOW, UM, WE JUST LEFT THE ONE IN CAROL THAT WE'LL FINISH THE SECTION IN TERRELL AND WE HAVEN'T STARTED WORKING ON IT YET.
WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET UTILITIES MOVED.
BUT WITH THOSE TWO SECTIONS, UH, WHEN WE CAN GET 'EM COMPLETE, I THINK YOU'LL SEE TRAFFIC MOVING THROUGH COFFMAN COUNTY A LOT BETTER.
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UM, I TALKED ABOUT THE BOTTOM PORTION BEING PASSED THROUGH TOLLS.WE'RE ALSO NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL FOR FOUR SMALL PROJECTS IN THEIR AREA DOING PASS THROUGH FUNDING.
UM, IT'S ON THE SPUR 5, 5 7, DOING SOME RAMPS AT COUNTY ROAD 3 0 5 AND A FRONTAGE ROAD.
IT'S AT 1 48, BETWEEN 20 AND AND SPUR 5 5 7, IT'S AND IN THAT FOUR LANES THEN TAKING 1 48 FROM THE SPUR ON UP TO WHERE IT CHANGES INTO FOUR LANES THERE JUST NORTH AND REPLACING THE BRIDGE OVER THE SPUR AND THEN ALSO A FRONTAGE ROAD, UM, ON 20 BETWEEN ROSE HILL, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE SPUR AND 1 48, ADDING A FURNITURE FOR THAT PARCEL.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH FORNEY, THE CITY OF TY AND KAUFMAN COUNTY ON UM, FM 1641 BETWEEN 5 48 AND 20.
NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN I'M ALSO WORKING ON ONE IN ROCKWALL COUNTY.
SO OF THE PASS THROUGH PROJECTS THAT WERE SELECTED IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, UM, KAUFMAN COUNTY AND ROCKWALL GOT THE BULK OF THOSE SELECTIONS.
WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO THOUGH.
UM, SOME OTHER GOOD NEWS THAT RECENTLY HAPPENED.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT NINE BRIDGES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON TO GET AGREEMENTS EXECUTED.
THEY HAVE BEEN EXECUTED AND IF YOU LIVE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW THAT COUNTY ROAD 40 68 I THINK IT IS BY THE VAULT COURSE HAS BEEN CLOSED RECENTLY.
OUR BRIDGE INSPECTOR THAT CAME OUT LOOKED AT IT AND JUST FELT THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO CLOSE IT TO TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW.
BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, ALL THE BRIDGES THAT WE'RE DOING IN CALTON COUNTY HAVE GOTTEN MOVED UP.
AND I MET WITH THE CONSULTANTS THE OTHER DAY THAT ARE GONNA DO THE PLANS AS SOON AS THEY CAN GET THE PLANS READY.
THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE ALL AT ONE TIME.
THEY'RE GONNA LET 'EM ALL AT ONE TIME.
SO FOR SOME OF THE BRIDGES IT CAN MEAN MOVING UP, UM, AS MUCH AS TWO YEARS.
SO WE'VE GOT PASS THROUGH TOLLS, WE'VE GOT THE BRIDGE AGREEMENTS.
THE OTHER THING IS THE MAP THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY THREE TO FOUR MONTHS OLD.
I THINK THE LAST TIME WE UPDATED IT WAS AROUND IN FEBRUARY.
BUT IT SHOWS YOU WHAT ALL WAS GOING ON IN COFFMAN COUNTY.
THERE'S SOME STUFF IN HERE THAT EVEN NEED TO BE ADDED TO THIS AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, A LOT OF IT, WHEN YOU SEE THE WHOLE LENGTH OF 80 AND YOU LOOK UP TO THE SIDE, SOME OF IT'S JUST GUIDE SIGN REFURBISHING, BUT IT'S STILL WORK AND MONEY THAT WE'RE POURING INTO THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM HERE IN COFFMAN.
THERE'S ALSO A LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON.
SOME OF THESE, IF YOU'LL LOOK DOWN THE LIST, ARE OUT ON 20 20, 20 60.
THOSE ARE NOT REALISTIC DATES.
THOSE ARE PLACEHOLDERS AND WHAT THAT'S TELLING YOU IS WE'RE PROBABLY IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE SCHEMATIC STAGE OF THOSE.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON 'EM BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FAR ENOUGH TO FIND OUT, UM, IF IT IS A VIABLE PROJECT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE THAT MIGHT PRECLUDE IT FROM HAPPENING AND ACTUALLY SAID A REALISTIC LETTING DATE FORWARD.
SO RAY, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, IT PROBABLY WOULD BE EASIER JUST TO FILL THE QUESTIONS THAN TO GO OVER.
I, I'D LIKE TO BRAG A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, ON YOUR PART ON THE UH, GRID CONSTRUCTION.
UH, YOU, HOW MANY DOLLARS WORTH OF BRIDGES ARE THIS TEXT GOING TO APPROXIMATELY GOING REPLACE? UM, ABOUT 4 MILLION.
UH, IT'S IN SEVEN CONTRACTS AND IF YOU ROUGHLY SAY ABOUT 500,000 PIECE ABOUT 4 MILLION ON, WE'RE GETTING 4 MILLION BRIDGES BUILT IN EXCHANGE FOR US REPLACING A BRIDGE NEED TO BE REPLACED ANYWAY IN
UH, SO THAT, THAT TURNED INTO A GREAT DEAL FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE THOSE BRIDGES WERE ALL COUNTY ROADS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED WHERE UNSAFE BUT WOULD'VE TO BE REPLACED SOONER OR LATER.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE AWAY OUR ROAD BRIDGE BOAT.
UM, AND THEN I GUESS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU JUST SO THERE WOULD BE SOME UNDERSTANDING IN THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ARE DRIVING OVER, UM, WHAT LOOK LIKE GRAVEL OR ROCK ROADS RIGHT NOW? IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE, WELL THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS WE DO THIS.
NUMBER ONE, THOSE OLD ROADS ARE WORN OUT.
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WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND TRIED TO SPOT FIX THEM NOW FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.IF WE WERE TO TAKE THOSE ROADS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RAW NATURAL DIRT AND BUILD THEM BACK UP, THE ONLY WAY WE COULD SAFELY DO THAT WAS TO CLOSE THE ROAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE WITH AS MANY TWO LANE FARM ROADS AND STATE HIGHWAYS AS WE HAVE WITH THE DISTANCE BETWEEN 'EM DETOURS ON THAT WOULD BE UM, VERY INCONVENIENT.
AND THE REASON THAT WE'D HAVE TO CLOSE THEM WAS IF YOU DO THAT, YOU TAKE DOWN ONE LANE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A TWO FOOT DROP OFF BETWEEN ONE LANE AND THE OTHER, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON THAT ROAD FOR US TO PUT UP BARRIER WHERE YOU COULD SAFELY TRAVERSE THAT TWO LINE, THAT TWO FOOT DROP OFF.
UM, SO AT MOST WE COULD HAVE SIGNALS THERE WHERE MAYBE WE DO ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC OR WE COULD SHUT IT ALL THE WAY DOWN.
WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE ARE RECYCLING WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
UH, THE ASPHALT AND THE BASE MATERIAL WE'RE ADDING CEMENT, UM, ON SOME OF 'EM, ON SOME OF 'EM THE CEMENT AND THE OIL ADDITIVE THAT WILL REJUVENATE WHAT WAS THERE SPREADING IT OUT.
AND IT'S MAKING A HOMOGENEOUS MIXTURE.
SO NOW YOU WON'T HAVE A ROAD WHERE YOU HAVE A SECTION THAT WE JUST FIXED.
IT'S NICE AND STRONG, BUT MAYBE 110 FEET FURTHER YOU'VE GOT A SECTION OF ROADWAY THAT HASN'T BEEN FIXED AND NOW YOU SEE THAT IT'S FAILING.
SO IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING TO US AS TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS.
I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING TO YOU AS, AS CITIZENS TO SEE A ROAD THAT MAYBE WE DID TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO AND NOW IT'S FALLING APART AGAIN.
'CAUSE SOME OF THE AREAS WE DIDN'T FIX THEN ARE
WHAT THIS DOES AND ALLOWS US TO DO A HOMOGENEOUS MIXTURE, WE'RE SPREADING IT OUT TO 28 FEET, WHICH IS OUR STANDARDS FOR TODAY.
IN SOME CASES IF WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM WITHOUT AFFECTING THE FLOOD PLAIN OR THE SIDE SLOPES, WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL FLEX SPACE MATERIAL ON TOP, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL SEAL COAT IT AND THEN OVERLAY IT WITH ASPHALT.
WHAT THAT DOES IS IT GIVES YOU A UNIFORM ROADWAY TO DRIVE ON SO YOU WON'T HAVE THE SPOT FAILURES THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING IN FACT IN THE PAST.
AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO DRIVE ON IT EVERY NIGHT.
THEY'RE WORKING IT ON DURING THE DAY AND YES, YOU CAN DRIVE IT ON ON IT EVERY NIGHT.
NOW IT IS, YOU KNOW, NOT A NICE ASPHALT ROADWAY WHEN YOU DRIVE ON IT AT NIGHT, BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT DOING A 10 OR 12 MILE DETOUR, UM, TO GET BACK TO YOUR HOME.
SO IF YOU'LL BE PATIENT WITH US, WE ACTUALLY CAN DO IT IN THAT METHOD FASTER THAN WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST WHERE WE WENT THROUGH AND WE FIXED DIFFERENT SECTIONS, THEY CAME BACK AND LEVELED IT UP AND THEN OVERLAYED IT.
UM, IT'S NOT AS NICE TO DRIVE ON BUT IT CAN BE DONE FASTER AND YOU GET A BETTER ROADWAY WHEN YOU'RE COMPLETE.
SO ANYTHING ELSE? THE UH, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE UH, KAUFMAN HIGHWAY 34 BYPASS? YES SIR.
I KNOW WE'RE INVOLVED NOW IN GETTING THE UH, THE RIGHT OF HMM THINK COMES ALONG PRETTY WELL.
I KNOW RAY IN GETTING THAT, WHEN WOULD CONSTRUCTION START ON? I THINK WE GOT FUNDING IN PLACE FOR THE FIRST PART OF IT, I BELIEVE.
UM, WE GOT FUNDING IN PLACE FOR THE FIRST PART OF IT, THE SECTION FROM 2 43 TO 1 75.
WE'VE ACTUALLY ASSIGNED TO A DESIGNER NOW.
SO THEY'RE STARTING TO WORK ON DETAILED PLANS, NORMALLY DETAILED PLANS AND RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND UTILITY RELOCATION RUN CONCURRENTLY.
AND IT'S NORMALLY A TWO YEAR TO THREE YEAR PROCESS DEPENDING ON THE, THE COMPLICATIONS.
UM, SO IF WE START THE TIME CLOCK RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETIME, UM, JULY, 2013 TO MAYBE JANUARY OF 2014 TO START THE NORTHERN SECTION.
UH, HOPEFULLY WITH THE PASS THROUGH FUNDING, ONCE WE GET THROUGH WITH THAT, THE SOUTHERN PORTION CAN FOLLOW JUST RIGHT ON ITS HEELS.
AND THEN THE FORNEY PARKWAY MM-HMM
UM, THE FORNEY PARKWAY PROJECT WAS FUNDED WITH THE REGIONAL TOLL REVENUE.
UH, WE'VE GOT AN AGREEMENT THAT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWN TO AUSTIN THAT WILL SET ALL THE FUNDING, UM, GET ALL THAT AUTHORIZED, BUT WE'RE STILL CONTINUING ON WORKING ON IT.
UM, AND THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF GETTING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE RIGHT OF WAY MAP APPROVED, WE REVIEWED 30% SET OF PLANS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND AUGUST 8TH WE'RE SET TO GO BACK AND REVIEW A 60% SET OF PLANS.
SO THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR SOME TIME EARLY 2013 POSSIBLY TO, I MEAN 2012 POSSIBLY TO LET IT
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EARLY NEXT YEAR.THAT BE THE ENTIRE PROJECT ALL THE WAY, UH, WHAT THE STATE'S INVOLVED IN IS ONLY THE BRIDGE.
WE'RE ONLY INVOLVED WITH UH, TOUCHDOWN POINT TO TOUCHDOWN POINT OF THE BRIDGE AND THAT WILL GO OVER USA AND THE RAILROAD.
AND THE DEVELOPER I BELIEVE IS DOING THE NORTH AND SOUTH PINE ROAD.
HE'S ALREADY, IT'S JUST THE BRIDGE ON TEXT DEVELOPER.
HE'S ALREADY STARTED ON THE NORTH PORTION I BELIEVE.
HASN'T STARTED ON THE SOUTH PORTION AND THEN THE 34TH PROJECT IN TERRELL THERE FROM HIGH STREET TO AIRPORT ROAD.
I BELIEVE YOU SAID THE CITY IS STILL MOVING UTILITIES AND UM, NOT THE CITY.
WE'VE GOT SOME AERIAL ELECTRIC AND FOAM THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET MOVED.
WE'VE GOT MOST OF IT MOVED EXCEPT WHAT'S GOING OVER THE RAILROAD AND AS SOON AS WE GET PERMISSION FROM THEM TO GET ON THEIR PROPERTY AND RELOCATE THAT, WE'VE GOT THE CONTRACTOR IN PLACE.
UH, WE'VE HAD A KIND OF A PRE PRE-CON WITH 'EM JUST TALKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFICULTIES, THE HAZARDOUS UM, THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH OUT THERE.
BUT AS SOON AS WE GET THOSE UTILITIES REPLACED, WE'LL BE READY TO GO.
THE FIRST THING WE'LL DO IS MOVE THE RAILROAD SPUR.
UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S A SPUR THAT GOES DOWN TO THE LUMBER COMPANY THROUGH THERE THAT WE NEED TO RELOCATE AND THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT WE'LL DO.
SO WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WILL BE GOING ON? UM, WE ARE HOPING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET STARTED ON IT BETWEEN MIDDLE OF AUGUST AND 1ST OF SEPTEMBER.
WE GOT COUNTING ALL THE MAINTENANCE STUFF AND THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME THAT I'VE MESSED UP ALL THEIR ROUTES FROM ONE POINT TO ANOTHER THAT THAT WASN'T INTENDED.
BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET THE MONEY AND YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE MONEY, I, I JUST SURE HATE TO TURN MONEY BACK.
I'M GONNA SPEND IT IF THEY OKAY.
WHAT WE, I THINK TO THE POINT NOW DOWN, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, WE MET WITH THE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DOING THE DESIGN FOR THOSE ON THURSDAY.
THEY WENT TO A SITE VISIT TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE BRIDGES AND I THINK THREE 10 WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY ACTUALLY BENEFITED FROM US, UH, CLOSING DOWN THE COUNTY ROAD 40 68 BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THAT, IT ALLOWED IT TO MOVE UP.
WE ORIGINALLY HAD IT I BELIEVE IN 2013, BUT THEY'RE NOW BEING DESIGNED ALTOGETHER AS I WAS SAYING EARLIER.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT A YEAR TO 18 MONTHS FOR IT TO BE DESIGNED AND THEY'RE ON THE FAST TRACK BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET 40 68 OPEN AS QUICK AS WE CAN, THEY'RE GONNA LET ALL OF THE BRIDGES TOGETHER.
IT WILL BE UNDER ONE CONTRACT WITH ONE CONTRACTOR.
SO PROBABLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS WE'LL START WITH 40 68 SINCE IT'S CLOSED, UM, GET IT STARTED, BRING THEIR DIRT CREW IN THE CREW TO GROW THE DRILL SHAFTS, DO THE COLUMNS.
THEN AS SOON AS THEY'VE GOT THAT POINT, THEY BRING IT ON UP.
THAT CREW WILL NEED MOVE TO ANOTHER BRIDGE WORK ON IT WHILE THEY'RE FINISHING UP THIS ONE.
SO IT'LL BE KIND OF A DOMINO EFFECT.
UM, THREE 10 IS THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT WE HAD TO UM, LOWER WEIGHTS ON AND THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THE NEXT ONE WE ASK THEM TO GO TO AFTER 40 68.
THEN WE'VE GOT TWO ON 40 17 THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET TO IN THE SUMMER.
SO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, SLIDE THOSE IN WHEN WE CAN GET TO 'EM IN THE SUMMER MONTHS AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE WE START ON 'EM, HAVE TO STOP AND GO TO OTHER BRIDGES AND THEN GO BACK TO THEM.
SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, THEY STARTED THIS MONTH.
IF IT TAKES 'EM A YEAR, WE ARE LOOKING AT SUMMER, UH, SUMMER FALL PROBABLY OF NEXT YEAR BEFORE THEY LEFT THE CONTRACT.
AND THEY'LL PROBABLY BE CONTACTING Y'ALL FOR HELP WITH, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THOSE BRIDGES IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE GETTING MADE.
THEY'RE UH, BRIDGES IN THOSE PRECINCTS IS ONE OF THINGS.
THEY SPECIAL CONDITIONS, SPECIAL CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT
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ONE THOSE THEY'RE GONNA WANNA KNOW ABOUT THATUM, JUDGE WOOD WILL SIGN OFF ON 'EM PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR MONTHS BEFORE WE LET THEM AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PRECON BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GO TO WORK TO CONSTRUCTION AND WE'LL INVITE YOU TO THE PRECON SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THE CONTRACTOR AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU BRENDA.
WE GOT FUNDED FOR US WITH VERY LITTLE OF OUR MONEY IN IN THAT POP START WAS WAS A GREAT MOVE THEN THERE WAS ABOUT A SIX TO $8 MILLION FUNDING AFTER THAT JUST CAME DOWN LAST MONTH.
BUT THERE'S ALSO UH, ALMOST $8 MILLION COMPOSITION 12 FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT STRANGER ON THAT YET.
I KNOW THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL ON STTC, THE SERVICE TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL TECHNICAL COMMITTEE.
I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.
I KNOW THEY'VE TAKEN, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM A COUPLE OF COUNTIES THAT ALREADY HAD SOME PROJECTS THAT THEY KNEW THOSE WERE THE NEXT PRIORITIES.
UM, WE'VE GOTTEN ALMOST ALL THE ONES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WITH THE ORIGINAL TOTAL REVENUE.
SO I'D PROBABLY BE HARD PRESSED IF YOU ASKED ME WHAT OUR NEXT PRIORITY WAS, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT'S THE, WHAT THE EXACT, WHAT THE REQUIREMENT'S GOING TO BE OR WHAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT USE THAT $8 MILLION ON.
NOT YET, BUT, BUT WE DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $8 MILLION COUNTY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S SPEND ON, I CAN SPEND IT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EXTEND IT.
I'M JUST NOT REAL SURE WHAT OUR PRIORITIES.
WE HAD A LIST OF PROJECTS TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE STARTED THIS AND I THINK IF I'M CORRECT, MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN COVERED.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO DUST OFF THAT LIST AGAIN AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAD ON.
AND THE ONLY ONE THAT COMES TO MIND JUST REAL QUICK IS THE FURNITURE AND FRONT.
SO IS BRENDA BACK? UH, I GET THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN IN MY PART, THIS THING, BUT UH, IN THE PAST, UH, IT WAS BETTER.
IT ALWAYS WORKED OUT WELL TO GET THE ENGINEERING DONE AND THE RIGHT OF WAY OR JUST ONCE YOU'VE GOT THAT PART DONE ON ANY PROJECT THAT IT GIVES YOU, WHAT WERE THE ODDS OF GETTING THAT PROJECT DEVELOPED? UM, I'VE WORKED FOR TECH SCOTT IN MAY, IT'S BEEN 25 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER HAD A PROJECT THAT HAD THE PLANS COMPLETE BUT SET ON A SHELF FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.
AND THAT'S NOT JUST IN KAUFMAN BECAUSE WHEN I WAS AT THE DISTRICT, I DID FUNDING FOR ALL SEVEN COUNTIES, UH, IN THE DALLAS DISTRICT.
AND IF WE HAD THE, THE PLANS DONE, I CAN'T RECALL A SINGLE ONE THAT IT WAS MORE THAN A YEAR BEFORE.
THERE WAS NOT SOME FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT PICKED IT UP.
SO IF YOU GET THE ENGINEERING DONE, IF YOU GET THE RIGHT OF WAY SECURED, THEN WHEN THEY HAVE A UM, FUNDING SURPLUS IN ONE AREA OR ANOTHER, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL COME OUT AND SAY, OKAY, WHO'S GOT EVERYTHING READY? WHICH ONE CAN GO TO LET LETTING IN LIKE THREE MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS OR THIS FISCAL YEAR? IF YOU'RE READY TO HAND SOME PROJECTS TO 'EM, NINE TIMES OUT 10, IF THEY FIT IN THE CATEGORY OF FUNDING THEY HAVE AND THEY'LL GET PAID WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF THEY ALLOCATE YOU A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, THIS AREA, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF FUNDING AND YOU CAN ONLY FIND 90 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS READY TO GO, THEN A $10 MILLION GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOME LAPSE STATES ON SOME OF THEM.
WE DON'T WANNA LIVE LAPSE AND NORMALLY WE TRY TO SHUFFLE IT THROUGH THE DISTRICT, UM, PULL SOMETHING FROM DENTON COUNTY TO USE AND THEN MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING IN A COUPLE YEARS AND YOU CAN FLO THAT FUNDS AROUND YOU TRY REAL HARD TO SHUFFLE THINGS AROUND.
SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T WORK 'CAUSE IT, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS WHY DOES ONE PROJECT GET BUILT ON ANOTHER PROJECT WHEN THIS PROJECT'S MORE NEEDED? THIS, THIS PROJECT IS READY TO GO AND READY TO BE FUNDED.
AND YET THE FUNDING TODAY, IF YOU DON'T FUND THAT PROJECT TODAY, THEN THAT MONEY GOES TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROJECT.
A LOT OF IT IS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING, A LOT OF IT IS THE TYPE OF FUNDING.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE O SYSTEM BRIDGES.
I COULD NOT TAKE THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO THOSE BRIDGES AND USE IT ON A REHAB PROJECT OR USE IT TO WIDEN 1641 OR USE IT TO WIDEN, YOU KNOW, 1 75.
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CERTAIN STRINGS ON THAT POT OF MONEY WHERE WE HAVE TO USE 'EM ON BRIDGES.UM, AND THERE'S POCKETS FOR ALL SYSTEM AND POCKETS FOR ON SYSTEM.
UH, WE HAVE REHAB MONEY AND THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH REHAB.
SOMETIMES YOU CAN SQUEEZE IN A TURN LANE OR TWO, BUT YOU CAN'T ADD ADDITIONAL LANES.
UH, THEN YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY MONEY ON THE CAPACITY MONEY.
THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN COME IN AND ADD LANES, UH, AND SUCH.
SO YOU'VE GOT BOTTLENECK PROGRAMS WHERE YOU CAN BUILD AN INTERCHANGE, UH, DO SIGNALS, PUT IN TURN LINES THAT IT WON'T DO THE WHOLE ROADWAY, IT'S JUST GONNA DO A FOLLOW UP FOR TRAFFIC THAT UP.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR HOME BUDGET WHERE YOU CAN TAKE SOME GROCERY MONEY TO GO OUT TO THE MOVIES IF YOU WANT TO ON THAT.
UM, THERE'S STRINGS ON EACH POT OF MONEY AND YOU HAVE TO USE IT FOR THAT.
AND EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES SOMETHING'S NEEDED, UH, SOMEWHERE ELSE, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO TURN BACK ANYWAY SO WE USE IT.
BRENDA, WOULD IT BE, UH, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? GO AHEAD.
I WAS GOING WOULD IT BE LIKE MAYBE EVERY SIX MONTHS, COULD WE GET YOU TO COME IN AND GIVE US AN UPDATE MAYBE LIKE IN JANUARY OF NEXT 2000 SO WE CAN, AND WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE THAT, THAT I THINK THAT MIGHT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE.
THIS INFORMATION FAR AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, TRANSPORTATION GONNA CONTINUE TO BE A BIGGER ISSUE FOR US.
AND UM, THE PEOPLE ARE COMING THIS WAY WHETHER WE BUILD IT FIRST OR NOT.
SO I THINK THEY'VE GONE NORTH ABOUT AS FAR AS THEY CAN GO AND STILL COMMUTE INTO DALLAS.
IT'S SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THERE, WHEN I FIRST CAME TO WORK HERE IN 2001, WE, I THOUGHT, MAN, IT'S GONNA BE DONE HERE BEFORE TOO LONG.
AND SOME, SOME GROWTH DID COME OUT HERE, BUT, UH, I THINK THE ECONOMY SLOWED IT DOWN SOME, BUT I, I THINK IT'S STILL COMING THIS WAY.
SO, UM, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP AND USE THE FUNDS THAT WE GET TO CATCH UP THE BEST WE CAN.
SO ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS? RAY? I THINK RAY, OKAY.
I WAS GONNA UH, I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT ONE TIME, WE MIGHT HAVE THESE, YOU COVERED THAT, BUT THE TECH, THAT BUDGET PROCESS, THERE'S A SHORT TERM IN LONG TERM WHEN THEY ANTICIPATE THESE PROJECTS IN THERE.
COULD YOU REAL QUICKLY KIND OF OVER I CAN, UH, WE GET OUR MAJORITY OF FUNDING FROM GAS TAXES.
UH, GAS TAXES HAVE NOT BEEN RAISED SINCE 1992.
UH, DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE IN THE PRICE OF GASOLINE, WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN LESS MONEY COMING IN FOR NUMEROUS REASONS.
PEOPLE DRIVE LESS AND THEY'RE GETTING MORE FUEL EFFICIENT CARS.
SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S MORE CARS OUT ON THE ROAD, WE'RE GETTING LESS FUNDING THROUGH THE STATE SYSTEM THROUGH THE GAS TAXES.
WE ALSO GET FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
PART OF THAT GAS TAX IS FEDERALLY, UM, SENT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THEY NORMALLY HOLD A LITTLE BIT BACK IN RESERVE IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS LIKE THE EMERGENCY WHEN THE, UH, BRIDGE FELL IN MINNEAPOLIS.
THAT WAY YOU CAN GRAB A HOLD OF IT, THEY CAN REACT VERY QUICKLY.
BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE NORMALLY KNOW ABOUT THREE YEARS AHEAD OF TIME WITHIN PROBABLY PLUS OR MINUS 10% HOW MUCH WE'LL HAVE TO SPEND IN THAT THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD.
SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS READY, WE HAVE TO PROJECT THAT OVER 10 YEARS.
UM, HERE RECENTLY THAT PROJECTION HASN'T WORKED OUT QUITE AS WELL AS WE HAVE.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT MUCH MONEY IN OUR COFF WHEN IT CAME TIME TO GET THAT YEAR TO BE ABLE TO BUILD STUFF.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE TO, THROUGH COG, DO A AIR QUALITY PLAN AND A MOBILITY PLAN.
THOSE ARE LIMITED AND CAPPED AT UM, 130% OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WE'RE GONNA GET.
THEY GIVE US THE EXTRA 30% IN CASE WE GET MORE OR IN CASE SOME PROJECTS FALL OUT, UM, UH, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO WORK ON 'EM FOR A WHILE, YOU KNOW, NOVEL OR NOT.
SO IT GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO WORK ON IT.
UM, RECENTLY WHEN WE DID THE LAST MOBILITY UPDATE, WE HAD TO TAKE SOMETHING LIKE, UH, WAS IT $45 BILLION OUT OF OUR THAT BECAUSE WE JUST COULD NOT, UM, SHOW A BASIS FOR PROJECTIONS THAT TIME IN THE FUTURE ANYMORE BASED ON OUR CURRENT SCHEME.
SO, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT THE PAST GOOD PROGRAMS. ONE,
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UH, USING THE REGIONAL TOLL REVENUES WAS ANOTHER, THERE'S SEVERAL BILLS THAT HAVE PASSED THAT ALLOWED US TO TAP INTO NORMALLY WHAT HAS BEEN NON CONVENTIONAL FUNDING FOR US.WE APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US AN UPDATE.
THANK NEXT ITEM NUMBER FOUR FROM LAURA WITH THE UNITED WAY COUNTY TO PRESENT A PROGRAM TO US BE OFFERED TO THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES DURING OPENING.
I THINK WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST BUT IT WE'VE NOT ACTUALLY ANTICIPATED THE LAST TWO OR FOUR YEARS.
AND REALLY WE JUST WANNA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE EMPLOYEES TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT UNITED WAY IS HERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN, AND DUE TO THE, TO THE ECONOMY AND THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, THE REQUEST FROM OUR AGENCIES HAVE BEEN A GREAT DEMAND.
AND REALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME,
SO THERE'S A LOT OF SENIORS NOW THAT ARE BEING PLACED ON THE WAITING LIST THAT'S NOT GONNA GET THOSE, UH, DAILY MEALS AS NEEDED.
UH, AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF, UH, THE NEED PRICES HAVE GONE UP AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO EXPAND AND REALLY TO BE ABLE TO REACH EVERYBODY WHO IS, UH, WORKING THAT WANTS TO CONTRIBUTE AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
WE DON'T WANNA MAKE IT DIFFICULT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT WE DO WANT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION IN GIVING, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
BUT REALLY WHAT WE WANT IS HUNDRED PERCENT ASKED TO HAVE EVERY EMPLOYEE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANNA GIVE OR IF THEY WANT, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE TO A CERTAIN AGENCY OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, UNITED WAY, DIFFERENT COUNTY THAT THEY WANNA, FOR REASON THEY CAN HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY CAN GIVE BACK TO WHERE THEY WOULD WORK.
AND IT'S REALLY JUST, JUST BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN, GIVE THEM THAT OPTION.
WE HAVE, UH, JOHNNY I THINK HAVE WE NOT, WE PROVIDED PAYROLL DEDUCTION.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENCIES THEY SERVE, THEY DO SERVE SOME OF THE SAME AGENCIES WE PROVIDE FUNDING FOR AS WELL.
SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY WE LIVE IN UNUSUAL TIMES RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW, UH, CHARITABLE GIVING IS, UH, IS IMPORTANT.
UH, NOT ONLY IN OUR COUNTY BUT ACROSS THE STATE, ACROSS THE NATION.
SO WE DO NEED TO PROVIDE HELP WHERE WE CAN.
AND UH, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS JUST TO, UH, TO CONTINUE, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OPENING OPEN ENROLLMENT PROCESS YES.
THAT YOU HAVE WITH THERE QUALITY HERE.
COUNTY DO PAYROLL DEDUCTION OR THEY CAN DO A ONETIME CONTRIBUTION OR THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT YOU YES, THEY CAN, THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THE PAYROLL DEDUCTION.
THEY CAN DO A ONETIME UH, GIVING AND WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR THE FIRST TIME IF THEY WANT TO USE A CREDIT OR DEBIT CARD.
'CAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE, UM, EITHER THROUGH, THROUGH THE CAMPAIGN OR IF THEY WANT TO GO DIRECTLY TO OUR WEBSITE, WE CAN VOTE THAT WAY ALSO.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY, THEY CAN GIVE.
IT'S JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT IT'S THERE.
WELL, WHEN YOU CALLED THE OTHER DAY, SHE JUST ASKED TO KIND OF GET BACK INTO THE FLOW OF THINGS HERE WITH US IN THE COUNTY AND I SAID, WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER AND PRESENT THIS TO COMMISSION, TO THE COMMISSION'S COURT.
AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT WILL WANT TO CONTRIBUTE AS WE HAVE IN THE, SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR LAURA? OKAY, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO DO IS MOVE ITEM 18 UP BEFORE WE, UH, HEAR FROM STEVE.
UH, YOU NOTICE ITEM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS HERE I DON'T WANT, UNLESS THEY JUST STICK AROUND, WANT THEM HERE ALL MORNING NECESSARILY.
BUT THAT WOULD BE TO DISCUSS AND ACT OR COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT FOR THE COST TO VAN ZEN FOR ROCK WALL SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT NUMBER 5 0 5 FOR REPAIRS OF LOWER EAST FOR LATERAL SITE NUMBER SEVEN.
AND UH, UH, THIS MORNING WE HAVE LUKE, THIS WITH US TODAY.
GLEN, YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD OR, AND, UH, TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, THIS IS ONE OF THE FLOOD CONTROL DAMS WE HAVE THAT, UH, EVIDENTLY IS NEEDED SOME PRETTY SERIOUS, UH, WORK DONE TO IT.
KINDA LIKE THE ELMO LAY DOWN I GUESS AS WELL.
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UH, THIS STRUCTURE IS, UM, YOU WANT TO HAVE USE THE GUY I KNOW YOU'VE GOT OKAY.UH, OWEN CAN TRAIL IS OUR BOOKKEEPER FOR THE KAUFMAN VAN AT ROCKWELL SOIL AND WATER DISTRICT.
ZACH KINZIE IS A EMPLOYEE OF THE DISTRICT AND ALSO WE HAVE A THREE 19 EPA GRANT FOR WATER QUALITY FOR CITY OF PRE.
AND SO WE HAD ABOUT, I THINK AROUND $300,000 THAT HE WAS ABLE TO USE TO DO SOME FARMING RANCH IMPROVEMENTS WITH, UH, PARTICIPANTS WITHIN THE, THE, UH, CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED TO TRY TO PROVIDE, UH, WATER QUALITY EFFORTS IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, WATERSHED.
AND, UH, BEN BOWERS IS WITH THE, UH, STATE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION, UH, DISTRICT BOARD.
AND, UH, HE'S, UH, WORKS WITH, UH, DAM UH, OPERATION AND AND MAINTENANCE.
WHAT WAS HIS POINT? AND, UH, I GUESS THE, THE STRUCTURE, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UM, IT, IT, IT HAD A, A SLIP ON THE FRONT AND ON THE BACK AND IT, AND SO THE, THE CROWN IS A LITTLE BIT NARROWER THAN WHAT, WHAT IT USED TO BE.
AND, UH, IT IS ONE OF OUR BLACK LAND SITES.
AND SO IT, UH, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR THESE DAMS TO, TO HAVE A SLIP, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT A, UH, OVERPASS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES HAS A SLIP.
AND THEN PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO WE HAD A WILDFIRE THAT WENT THROUGH THIS AREA AND IT, IT REALLY DAMAGED THE, THE VEGETATION ON, ON THE DAM AS WELL.
AND SO THE, PROBABLY ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, UH, THE STATE LEGISLATURE, UH, REQUESTED, UH, GRANTS OR, OR REQUESTS FROM THE LOCAL DISTRICTS ON WHAT KIND OF NEEDS THEY MIGHT HAVE.
AND SO WE REQUESTED RIGHT AT A MILLION DOLLARS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS ON THREE SITES.
AND THIS, THIS SITE IS ONE, ONE OF THE THREE.
UH, OUR LOWER EAST FORK SITE THREE, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, DO SOME ASSESSMENT WORK AND, UH, IT, IT WENT FROM A REPAIR JOB TO A A, A MAINTENANCE JOB.
AND SO JUST, UH, LAST WEEK WE WERE ABLE TO, TO DO ALL THE DIRT WORK ON IT.
WHERE IS IT LOCATED? IT WOULD BE, UH, APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE NORTH OF CRANDALL, UH, JUST, JUST RIGHT NORTH OF THE FM 1 48.
UH, I GUESS THE, THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT REQUEST, UH, THE, THE STATE, UH, PROVIDES 95% OF THE FUNDING, UH, FOR THE WORK THAT IS NEEDED ON SITE SEVEN.
UH, THEY, THEY, UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR COSTS IS LIME, UH, THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, MIX THE SOIL WITH LIME AND, AND PUT IT BACK ON THE, ON THE SIDE SLOPES AND, UH, TO STABILIZE IT AND, AND HELP IT FROM, FROM THE SLIPPING IN THE, IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO I GUESS THE, THE REQUEST WITH THE COUNTY BEING A, A LOCAL SPONSOR OF THE SILVER WATER, UH, UH, WATERSHED PROGRAM, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE, THE 5%, UH, OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS A PROFIT 25,000.
COMMISSIONER MANNY, I BELIEVE HAS DISCUSSED THIS WITH HIM.
YOU HAVE ANY YEAH, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND INSPECT THIS, BUT I THINK I'M DOING THAT RIGHT QUICK.
WHEN YOU DO HIRE A CONTRACTOR, WILL IT, WILL YOU TRY TO HIRE A LOCAL CONTRACTOR OR SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY HERE IN THE COUNTY? OR DO YOU GO OUT STATEWIDE OR HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? THE BID PROCESS WILL BE HANDLED WITH OUR ENGINEERS IN OUR STATE OFFICE AND, UH, IT, IT IS A OPEN BID PROCESS.
UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO BE BONDED AND, AND THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS, UH, BUT THERE'LL BE AN OPEN BID AND AN OPEN SITE SHOWING, UH, WHERE THE CONTRACTORS CAN CANNOT ONLY LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF WORK IS NEEDED FOR THE STANDARD IN INSPECTS.
IF I HAD LOCAL CONTRACTORS, UH, CONTRACT ME WANTING TO BID ON THIS, DO I HAVE TO CONTACT YOU? THEY'D BE FINE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, WE HAVE A, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MY COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THE MOTION TO APPROVE AGREEMENT WITH WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT PREPARE FOR THIS, UH, SITE.
MR. CLARK, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A
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OPPOSED.THIS Y'ALL AROUND OR YOU CAN GO WORK ON THE VAN AS FAR AS GETTING THE SIGNED OFF IN THE BACK? YEAH, WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU.
JUST CALL AND WE PUT IT IN THE MAIL.
ALRIGHT, HERE, HERE'S THE, UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, SOME ENGINEERS DO SOME INSPECTIONS ON SOME VANS.
OUR DISTRICT'S REPORT BACK TO THE DISTRICT, STATE ENGINEERS.
PLEASE SEND US A INVOICE OR, UM, WE, WE'LL SEND IT.
WE'RE STILL PLANNING STAGES WE ENGINEERS WORTH 60 DAYS BEFORE WE ANY WORK.
NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR FIVE FOR STEVEY, UH, TO DISCUSS AND ACT FROM AN AMENDMENT FOR COUNTY'S CONTRACT WITH EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER EMS TO ADJUST THE BASE RATE CHANGES.
STEVE, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOME GUYS HERE.
WE LIVE AT EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER.
I FIGURED SINCE YOU CONCERN THEM, I WOULD HAVE THEM TO UH, GO OVER THIS WITH YOU.
PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER VERSED AT IT THAN I AM.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ADJUST THE BASE RATE IN OUR COUNTY, WHICH IS FAR LOWER THAN ANY COUNTY AROUND US.
THE INCREASE IS NOT TO BENEFIT THE POCKETBOOK OF EAST TEXAS, HOWEVER THAT THOSE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT TO PUT ANOTHER FULL-TIME AMBULANCE IN THE COUNTY, WHICH WE REALLY NEED.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT FIVE AMBULANCES THAT COVER FIVE FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME THAT COVER HUNDRED 3000.
IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR EACH AMBULANCE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
SO THIS IS A WAY THAT, UH, WE COVER THAT AND I'LL LET TC HOWARD, THE ORIGINAL DIRECTOR OF CLAIM FURTHER, MR. HOWARD, GOOD WITH US.
ESSENTIALLY, I BELIEVE I, I STEPPED DOWN AND, UH, SPOKE WITH EVERYONE.
WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS BRING ON A TRUCK THAT'S ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, NINE TO SIX.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS CONVERT THAT TO THE 24 HOUR AMBULANCE.
WE BRING ON, UH, FOUR MORE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, AND THIS IS ALL PRELIMINARY, IS STATIONING IT HERE IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN AND THEN SIX MONTHS REVIEWING IT AND SEEING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY AS THE COUNTY SAYS AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND THEN MOVING THAT TRUCK AS NEED BE OR LEAVING THE TRUCK IN COFFMAN.
SO WE'RE, WE WILL CONTINUALLY REVIEW THE PROCESS AND REVIEW WHERE THE CALL VOLUME IS AND REVIEW WHAT OUR RESPONSES ARE AND WHERE WE NEED TO GET THE QUICKEST AND HOW WE NEED TO GET THERE.
A LOT OF THAT IS ALSO BASED ON ONGOING ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND JUST THINGS THAT THAT OCCUR IN THE COUNTY FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND, AND WITH THAT AND, AND WITH THIS INCREASE, LIKE STEVE SAID, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UM, THE LOCAL COUNTIES THAT SURROUND US, UH, CURRENTLY THEIR BASE RATES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WHAT THE BASE RATE IS IN COFFMAN COUNTY.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANGE IN BASE RATE OR AS FOR CHANGE OF BASE RATES SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE CONTRACT.
THE MASTER CONTRACT THERE HAS BEEN A SMALL CPI INCREASE EACH YEAR AND SOME YEARS, YOU KNOW, THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX HAS RISEN A LITTLE, SOME YEARS IT'S GONE DOWN SOME YEARS IT'S BEEN UNCHANGED.
AND WITH THAT, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR A CHANGE TO THE BASE RATE AS IT'S SET IN ORDER TO HELP WITH THE FUNDING OF THE ADDITIONAL UNIT HOURS AND PROVIDING BETTER SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.
GIVE US AN UPDATE ON HOW MANY AMBULANCES WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY AND WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY STATION.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE AMBULANCE IN FOUR TWO AMBULANCES IN THE CITY OF TERRELL, 1 24 HOUR AMBULANCE IN KAUFMAN WITH ALSO A DAY TRUCK, WHICH IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, NINE TO SIX, AND THEN ONE AMBULANCE STATION AT MAYBANK NUMBER TWO FIRE STATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY CENTER POINT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BANK.
UH, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL HOURS, BRING ON ANOTHER 24 HOUR AMBULANCE AND INCREASE THE COVERAGE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FOR 20, 24 HOURS A DAY.
UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT IN A NUTSHELL.
I BELIEVE YOU MET WITH ALL THE FIRST RESPONDER GROUPS, UH, AND DISCUSSED THIS WITH THEM? YES SIR, WE DID.
WE MET WITH, UH, WHAT WE DID INITIALLY IS WE MET WITH THAT THE CONTRACT IN THE COUNTY SET UP.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT COUNTY, WE ALSO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF LIN AND A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF CARROLL.
SO WE HAD TO MEET WITH EACH, EACH DIFFERENT ENTITY AND, AND THEN GO THROUGH THAT.
AS LIKEWISE, WE MET WITH THE FIRE CHIEF'S ASSOCIATION AND I BELIEVE FROM THAT MEETING WE RECEIVED, UH, A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT FROM THE FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND
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STEVE CAN SPEAK MORE ON THAT AS HE'S BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE.BUT, UH, IT, IT APPEARS THAT THE, THE MEASURES SUPPORTED BY EVERYONE, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GOING THROUGH AND GETTING THOSE ADDITIONAL HOURS AND IN THE PROCESS HAVE GO, HOW LONG DID YOU SAY IT'S BEEN SINCE THAT RATE HAS BEEN, THAT BASE RATE'S BEEN UNFAIR? I I BELIEVE THE, UH, THE CONTRACT'S INCEPTION WAS IN 1992 AND THEN IT WAS RATIFIED IN 1995, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS 1992.
SO THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE TO THE BASE RATE OTHER THAN WHAT I'D SAID IN THE CPI SINCE THAT POINT.
AND I BELIEVE MOST OF THIS WILL NORMALLY BE COVERED BY THE INSURANCE CARRIER, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
WELL, IT, WHAT IT IS IS YOU, YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAYERS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
YOU HAVE THE MEDICARE MEDICAID, WHICH IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE.
YOU THEN HAVE YOUR THIRD PARTY PAYER.
AND YOUR THIRD PARTY IS THE PRIVATE INSURANCE, UH, LIABILITY INSURANCE IN, IN DIFFERENT, UH, AVENUES THAT DIRECTION.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE PRIVATE PAY AND UH, WITH THAT THE MEDICARE MEDICAID PATIENTS WILL SEE ABSOLUTELY NO CHANGE BECAUSE MEDICARE MEDICAID SAYS THAT YOU CAN ONLY, YOU WILL ONLY BILL FOR SUCH AMOUNT PERIOD REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR BASE RATE IS.
UH, AND THEN LIKEWISE, THE PRIVATE PAY, ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO PAY WHAT THEY, THERE WILL BE A CHANGE.
AND SO THE ONLY CHANGE THAT'S GONNA BE SEEN IS BY THOSE THAT HAVE INSURANCE.
UH, OF COURSE THAT WILL BE SEEN BREAKING BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES BECAUSE THOSE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE ALREADY PAYING THE BASE RATES FOR YOUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
UH, AND SO THE CHANGE WILL BE SEEN THERE.
THE, THE PRIVATE PAY PERSONS OR THE, I'M SORRY, THE THIRD PARTY PAYER AS WELL, THAT PATIENT WILL SEE A SMALL INCREASE IN WHAT THEIR BILL WOULD'VE BEEN BASED OFF OF THIS BASE RATE INCREASE.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO THERE IS WE'RE GONNA MARKET OUR, OUR MEMBERSHIP, WHICH ESSENTIALLY COVERS THE HOUSEHOLD $60.
YOU PAY $60 A YEAR AND COVERS YOUR ENTIRE HOUSEHOLD.
UH, IN THE AMBULANCE TRANSPORT, THE PATIENT WILL SEE ABSOLUTELY NO OUT POCKET EXPENSE AT ALL.
UH, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THAT BACK UP EARLY.
USUALLY IT'S FROM AN NON-COVERED OCTOBER, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THAT PROCESS UP EARLY AND MARKET IT TO THOSE, THOSE SORT OF PATIENTS.
BUT THAT'S AT THE SAME TIME IT MARKETED TO TOWARDS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
BUT IN, IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE'LL DO IS START IT EARLY AND THEN MOVE THEM INTO THE COMING YEAR SO THAT THERE IS NO OUT POCKET EXPENSE.
JUST TO CLARIFY, I BELIEVE THIS IS A NO COST TO THE COUNTY, CORRECT? THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO COST OF THE COUNTY NOR TO THE CITIES.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SUBSIDY OF ANY SORT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, ESSENTIALLY THIS IS JUST A COST TO THE PERSON WHO UTILIZES THE SERVICE RATHER THAN EVERYONE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY ITSELF OR THE CITIES AND STUFF.
ALL THE COUNTIES AROUND US WHO HAVE THE ENTIRE RATE BASE RATES RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE ALSO PAYING SUBSTANCE.
SO, UH, I THINK THE LOWEST ONE IS LIKE NINE 50 OR 9 75.
BUT THEY'RE PAYING THE SUBSIDY HIGHEST IS WHAT, 1350 TO 1500? THEY'RE PAYING A SUBSIDY.
SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, WE'RE GETTING GREAT BARGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE STILL NOT PAYING A SUBSIDY ESSENTIALLY.
THE COUNTY NOR TO THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY PAY ANY TYPE OF SUBSIDY TO HIS TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER.
NOW MEMBERSHIP WILL REMAIN AT 60 BUCKS.
WHAT'S THE BASE RATE? BECAUSE YOU HAD CONTRACTS WITH THE CITIES.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE BASE RATE WITH THE CITIES COMPARED TO THE COUNTY? IS IT THE SAME? NO, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE CITIES.
THE BASE RATE IS WHENEVER WE DID THE CONTRACT AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX CHANGED AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS.
SO THEIRS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE BASED OFF OF THE PATIENT LOAD, BASED OFF THE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WERE DONE WITH THE CONTRACTS WITH THEM WHEN WE ENTERED IN THE CONTRACTS.
UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON AVERAGE OF TIME.
I THINK WE GOT FIVE FULLTIME CORRECT.
SO ON AVERAGE TIME, ADD ANOTHER ANALYST, WOULD THAT A RIDICULOUS ONE TIME GO DOWN ANY OR IT IT IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD CERTAINLY HELP AFTER THE HOURS OF NINE TO SIX AND ALSO ON THE WEEKENDS.
I MEAN, AND CURRENTLY WE ARE WITH, WELL WITHIN OUR COMPLIANCE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND WITHIN THE CITIES AS WELL.
BUT, AND LIKE I'VE SPOKEN TO MANY OF YOU GUYS BEFORE, ESSENTIALLY I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN BE QUICK ENOUGH AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO DO IS BE QUICKER AND CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT AND CERTAINLY PUT POPULATION CHANGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WANT TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE RATHER THAN BEHIND TO TRY TO CATCH UP.
SO, BUT YES, IT SHOULD DIRECTLY IMPACT RESPONSE.
JUDY? I THINK YES, CLARIFICATION.
WHAT WILL THE BASE RATE, WHAT IS THE BASE RATE NOW AND WHAT WILL IT INCREASE TO THAT? THE CURRENT BASE RATE KIND OF FLUCTUATES RIGHT NOW.
IT DEPENDS ON WHICH CONTRACT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOUR HONOR.
SO IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW,
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ROUGHLY, I BELIEVE THE BASE RATE IS ROUGHLY 560 TO $600 AND WE'RE ASKING FOR IT TO INCREASE TO 1250.SO THAT MEANS LIKE IF I LIVED IN KAUFMAN COUNTY MM-HMM
YOU WILL PAY WELL NO, YOU WILL NOT PAY IT.
IT, AND THIS IS HOW IT'S SAID.
I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.
I THINK WHAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA IS MAYBE AFTER WE GO ON THIS, MAYBE WE TAKE A BREAK AND THEY GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTION, ASK QUESTION, THINK THAT MIGHT WORK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COURT? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACT ON THIS IF YOU SO DESIRE MOVE THAT WE TOOK THIS CONTRACT.
I GUESS JOHN, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS? I, I'VE LOOKED AT IT.
I'VE NOT COMPARED IT TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL WAS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A CHANGE IN THE SPECIFIC SERVICES AND THAT THEY'RE BEING UM, I GUESS CHANGING THEM TO REFLECT THE, THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING, EMERGENCY OR NON EMERGENCY AND SO FORTH.
SO APART FROM THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
AND IF STEVE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THE COST OR IF THAT'S BEEN FIGURED IN, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE OKAY.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I CAN UH, ESSENTIALLY THAT THE CITIES BECAUSE OF CONSUMER PRICING AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
UM, THE CONTRACTS HAS ALWAYS BEEN, WHICH WHEN IT STARTED OUT IT WAS A LITTLE LOWER OVER THE YEARS CONSUMER PRICE INDEX HAS GONE UP, THEN IT'S GONE DOWN FLUCTUATED.
THE CHANGE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS WHERE THE BASE RATE IS RIGHT NOW.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL MEETING, UH, BACK TO ORDER ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO HEAR FROM DICK MURPHY TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ACCEPTING THE TAX SUCCESS COLLECTIVE REPORT.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MURPHY TODAY, MR. MURPHY WAS TIED UP AND HE ASKED ME TO GO OVER THIS WITH HIM AND HE SAID THIS IS THE, ACTUALLY THE CURRENT ROLE TAXES COLLECTED YEAR TODAY ARE 28,433 28,433,262, WHICH IS 96%.
HE SAYS HE HAS NEVER EVER SEEN 96% BEFORE.
THAT'S THE HIGHEST IT'S EVER BEEN, BEEN NINE FIVE, BUT NEVER NINE SIX.
UH, THE ROAD AND BRIDGE ROLL WAS, UH, 2,756,000 360 2, WHICH IS ALSO 96%.
SO ALL THE FIGURES LOOK REAL, LOOK VERY WELL.
UH, THAT'S, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S ALMOST A MILLION MORE THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR AT THIS SAME TIME.
SO HE'S REAL HAPPY WITH A KAUFMAN TAXPAYER RIGHT NOW.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? I GOT AN ANSWER FOR ANY OF I CAN.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JERRY? WHAT, WHAT DO WE WE BUDGET FOR? IS IT 95%? 97%? 95% WE BUDGET 97.
THAT INCLUDES PENALTY INTEREST.
YEAH, WHICH YOU LOOK AT PENALTY INTEREST ON HERE.
IT'S PRETTY, WE'RE RIGHT AT BUDGET.
ALMOST HUNDRED THOUSAND ANYWAY.
HE'S REAL HAPPY WITH THAT AND IT SOUNDS REAL GOOD FOR US AND IT FALLS IN WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
ALL THE OTHER GOOD NEWS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS, THIS IS PRETTY GOOD NEWS TOO.
SO MOTION MR. TO ACCEPT THE JACKSON COURT POST.
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OR I'M SORRY, ITEM SEVEN, JOHN TO MONTHLY REPORT.BELIEVE WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT MONEY AROUND THAT MONEY UAL AND IT'S MONEY AROUND, UH, HOW DECENT NUMBERS LAST MONTH, LAST WEEK ABOUT HOW FAR AHEAD WE ARE.
IT LOOKS BE LIKE, YOU KNOW,
THAT WOULD BE TREMENDOUS IF, IF YOU WOULD AND HAL HAS, I KNOW THAT'S CORRECT NUMBER FOR THE RIGHT.
SO WHAT, WHAT HALMAN TELLING US ALL IS CORRESPOND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.
SO LOOKING AHEAD INTO LIKE OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK A SHORT TERM FRIDAY NOTICE SYSTEM YEAR.
LET'S GETTING THIS BETTER THAN WHERE WE WERE SO BETTER THAN WHERE WE WERE.
ALRIGHT, UH, JOHNNY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF JOHNNY ON THE MONTHS REPORT? NOT WE MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT ON THE QUARTERLY REPORT, UH, ENDING JUNE 30TH THOUSAND 11.
JOHNNY, ANYBODY THE COURT REPORT THEN ITEM NINE IS THE INVESTMENT REPORT.
THAT'S WHAT THERE, BUT IT NOTHING.
ALRIGHT, ONE 10TH OF 1% INTEREST RATE IS THAT DAILY? ONE 10TH OF 1%.
ALL UNDERSTAND WE'VE MILLION DOLLARS.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AN UPDATE ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
I ASKED RAY THIS MONTH THAT HE HAS BEEN WANTING TO GIVE US KIND OF AN UPDATE ON VARIOUS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT HE'S HAD OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
PROBABLY LAST TIME I DID THIS REPORT WE WERE JUST, JUST GETTING STARTED WITH ALL THE MAYORS INVOLVED IN THE COUNTY, UH, TO SEE WHICH DIRECTION WE REALLY WANT TO GO GO TO.
UH, THE, IT APPEARED THAT NUMBER ONE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE OUTSIDE HELP.
REALLY GOOD SPOT ON THE RACK TRACK.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, WE WENT, I HAD, UH, THE COMMISSIONER OF ROCKWELL COUNTY COME BY AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON WHAT ROCKWELL COUNTY DID.
UH, THEY HAD, THEY ISSUED A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS BOND PACKAGE.
THEY INITIALLY DID THE 20 MILLION BOND PACKAGE AND THEY GOT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT DEBT DONE WITH THE FIRST 20 MILLION.
THEY WENT BACK AND THEY ISSUED ANOTHER 80.
SO THEY GOT A HUNDRED MILLION.
THEY ANTICIPATING GETTING 500 MILLION PROJECT DONE.
WE HAD PARKER COUNTY COME IN THE FOLLOWING MONTH.
WE HAD TORNADOES ALL AROUND THE COUNTY.
SO OUR ATTENDANCE WAS ALL LOOKING UP AT THE SKY
BUT PARKER COUNTY CAME IN WITH A DIFFERENT BOND PROGRAM, BOND PACKAGE FUNDING, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PROJECTS COULD SELL AND PROBABLY 80% OF THOSE PROJECTS WOULD NORMALLY HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY TECH.
UH, THEIR PROBLEM WAS LIKE OUR PROBLEM PERIOD TO BE IS THAT WE CAN WAIT ON TECH TO GET SOMETHING DONE FOR US.
LET WAIT UNTIL THAT TIMEFRAME UNDER LAST THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS OR IN THE CASE OF STATE HIGHWAY 34 IN COFFMAN, 20 OR 30 YEARS BEFORE YOU GET THAT PROJECT DONE.
SO THIS ONE HAD AND SET UP A BOND PROGRAM TO
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GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE IMMEDIATELY.UH, BOTH, ALL THREE BOND PROGRAMS, UH, PASSED OVERWHELMING WILLIAM COUNTY BECAUSE PEOPLE TRAFFIC AND THEY PAY A, THERE WAS TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, LIKE I SAY, ON HOW, HOW THEY WERE OPERATING THEIR PROGRAM.
SO THIS LAST MEETING WE HAD, WE INVITED FOUR CONSULTANTS TO COME IN AND GIVE US A REAL SHORT PRESENTATION TO TRY TO KEEP THESE MEETINGS TO AN HOUR, GIVE THE SHORT PRESENTATION ON WHAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THE COUNTY TO DO.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP FROM HERE? AND BASICALLY IT APPEARS THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION STUDY DONE BY OUTSIDE PEOPLE THAT WILL APPLY SOME SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES TO OUR NEEDS, WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA COST.
NOT BECAUSE JERRY WANTS A ROAD BUILT BECAUSE JERRY WANTS A ROAD BUILT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY APPLY, UH, SOME CRITERIA TO, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE ACTUAL NEED OF THAT ROAD IS, AND IF IT IS AN ACTUAL NEEDED ROAD, WHAT'S THE COST OF IT? THAT WAY IF WE DECIDE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE DO WANT TO GO OUT FOR A BOND WITH THE PROGRAM TO IMPROVE IN OUR STATE FACILITY ROAD, AND IN THE CASE OF PARKER COUNTY THING, BOND ELECTION, THEY PUT IN $1 MILLION FOR EACH PRECINCT AT THE COMMISSIONER DISCRETION TO DO THAT.
THEY COULD USE ON A COUNTY ROAD, THEY COULD USE IT ON STATE ROAD, THEY COULD USE IT, UH, ON FM ROAD OR AN INTERSECTION OR WHATEVER CRITERIA WAS IT COULD USE ON CITY ROADS BECAUSE COUNTYWIDE, WHICH WAS UH, RAISED A LOT OF EYEBROWS WHEN THAT CAME OUT.
AND WHAT COULD, WHAT COULD YOU DO WITH ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO IMPROVE SOME OF YOUR, IT WAS STRESSED OUT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME ON PAY.
YOU CAN BUY A NEW ICE MACHINE.
OR SOME SUPPLIES IT WOULD NOT.
I'M SURE THERE'D BE SOME STRAY ON LIKE $8 MILLION.
THAT BE LIKE ADDING ROCK TO A ROAD OR BUYING A NEW MOTOR GRADER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT WOULD'VE TO BE SOMEWHAT OF A PERMANENT UPGRADE ON THE ROAD.
SO THE PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING, POINT THEIR MONEY.
YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD LOTS OF MY CONSTITUENTS HERE AGREE THAT THEY WOULDN'T BIN THE BOND ELECTION IF THEY KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING FAR THEIR ROAD TO FIX THEIR ROAD.
SO WHAT WOULD, I GUESS, WHAT WOULD THE STUDY LIKE THIS, THE COST OF THE COUNTY, THE PARKER COUNTY, UH, THEY BUDGETED 200,000 BUCKS.
UH, THE RTC LOANED THEM THE MONEY TO GET THE STUDY DONE.
WELL, IT ENDED UP COSTING HUNDRED 20,000 TO GET THE STUDY DONE.
AND THEY HAD, UH, THIS IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR, PARK COUNTY DID, ONE OF THE CO CONSULTANTS BROUGHT THIS IN FOR, FOR
BUT WHAT WHAT THEY DID IS THEY SET UP A, IN BOTH COUNTIES APPEARED TO, HAD THE SAME MEMO.
O THEY SET UP COMMITTEES FROM EVERY CITY, INVITED SOMEBODY FROM EVERY CITY.
AND I GUESS THIS IS KIND OF A BAD TERM, BUT THEY WOULD SUBMIT A WISHLIST OF WHAT THEY WANTED DONE.
AND I BELIEVE LIKE IN THE CASE OF PARKER COUNTY, THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, UH, A HUNDRED PROJECTS, 120 PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
UH, THE ENGINEERS, THE CONSULTANT CAME OUT AND DID THE STUDY FOR 'EM, RANKED THOSE PROJECTS FROM MOST NEEDED TO THE LEAST NEEDED AND PUT AND ASSIGN DOLLAR AMOUNTS TO THOSE PROJECTS SO THAT THE COUNTY COULD THEN COME BACK AND SAY, TO START OFF WITH, THEY WERE LOOKING AT 40 MILLION BILL.
THEY ENDED UP DOING $80 MILLION.
'CAUSE WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY ACTUALLY SAW WHAT THE DATA, THEY THOUGHT, WELL WE CAN DO THIS MANY.
WE'LL DO THE FIRST 80 PROJECTS ON THE LIST.
UH, IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER, WE'LL DO NUMBER 81 OR WHEN THERE'S MORE MONEY AVAILABLE, AGAIN, 81, 82, 83 COME BACK UP TO NUMBER ONE.
AND NUMBER TWO, AFTER THEY'RE ALL KIND OF DONE, THE ROCK WALL COUNTY SCENARIO IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THAT THEY LEFT THEIR MONEY, BUY SOME PROJECTS THEY WANTED TO DO, BUT THEY LEFT FLEXIBLE.
SO THAT IF YOU SAID YOU WANTED 5 MILLION TO DO THIS PROJECT WITH AND IT ENDED UP COSTING, UH, FOUR,
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YOU COULD TAKE THAT OTHER MILLION AND SPEND IT ON ANOTHER PROJECT.THAT MAY NOT BE NUMBER THE NEXT ONE ON THE LIST.
BECAUSE YOU MIGHT, LIKE BRANDON WAS TALKING ABOUT A WHILE AGO, SOMETIMES UH, THERE'S MONEY AVAILABLE OUT THERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MATCHING PART TO IT.
WELL IF THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT THERE AND FUND A, YOU KNOW, 8 MILLION, A 10 MILLION PROJECT AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE $2 MILLION, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK WITH, WELL I DON'T HAVE A 2 MILLION ON THAT PROJECT.
YOU WANT TO FIND THAT $2 MILLION TO GET THAT 10 MILLION PROJECT DONE.
SO THAT'S HOW ROCKWALL IS DONE.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING, OR I'M DISCUSSING WITH BOTH OF 'EM HAVE KIND OF A HYBRID APPROACH ON BOTH 'EM.
'CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO GET DONE, BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN ABLE TO GET THE OVERALL PICTURE DONE.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, MAYBE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A NEW DIVISION TO IT IN A NEW SHOPPING CENTER, WHATEVER, THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A TRAFFIC FLOW.
I MEAN, THAT MAY BE A PROJECT AFTER YOU HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT YET, BUT IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
AND SO YOU DON'T, I THINK THERE'S, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
SO WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOES HAPPEN, YOU CAN KIND OF GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
UH, PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT, UH, AGREEMENTS NODS FROM ALMOST EVERY MAYOR IN EVERY CITY AND THE COUNTY.
UH, THEY ALL RECOGNIZE THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD BE TAKING THE LEAD IN THIS PROCESS TO TRY TO GET ALL OF THE THINGS DONE.
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A COUNTYWIDE EFFORT.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A PRECINCT TWO EFFORT.
IT NEEDS TO BE EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF IT.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED DOWN THAT PATH A LITTLE LONGER.
I'LL PROBABLY COME BACK TO THE COURT, UH, BEFORE VERY LONG, UH, WITH SOME GREAT DETAILS ON POSSIBLY HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT AND HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED ON IT.
UH, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS JUST DISCUSSION THAT IS NO ACTION THAT WE ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT.
UH, I TALKED TO DR. MORRIS ABOUT ASSISTING US WITH IT.
UH, THEY SENT ME THE, THE PARKER COUNTY CONTRACT AND THEY WERE GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH US ACCORDING TO OUR CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
SEE, WE'RE, WE'RE UGLY NEW KID ON THE BLOCK.
AND THEY'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WANTING TO BE, UH, PART OF THE SOLUTION.
YOU CAN'T JUST SIT BACK AND WRITE AND SAY, I NEED THE MONEY.
UNLESS YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY.
THERE'S A DEFINITE NEED FOR IT.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO PUT NO MONEY IN THE, IN THE POT, THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO PLAY WITH VERY MUCH.
YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH YOUR TURN, BUT YOUR TURN IS GONNA BE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
THAT'S KIND OF THE NEW WAY OF STATE HIGHWAY BUILDING.
GOTTA HAVE LOCAL PARKER COUNTY SURVEY TOOK COST HUNDRED 20.
EVERY CITY GOT ON BOARD AND, AND LIKE I SAY AND SET, BUT THEN I GUESS THE HARD PART WAS COMING IN THERE AND PUTTING DOLLAR TO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET DONE.
THERE'S, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ENOUGH MONEY OUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE FOR IT COST SPREAD OUT BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY.
AND ACTUALLY THE COUNTY PAID THE WHOLE THING, BUT THEY ROLLED THAT OVER IN, HAD SOME LANGUAGE.
THEY ROLLED THAT INTO BEING PAID BACK WITH THE BOND.
SO WHEN THE BOND PASSED, IT PAID FOR THAT STUDY.
WAS IT AN $80 MILLION BOND? YES.
AND, UH, COOK COUNTY DID THE SAME THING AS PASTURE YEAR.
EVEN EVEN AS TOUGH AS TIMES ARE RIGHT NOW ABOUT ASKING FOR A TAX INCREASE.
COOK COUNTY GRANBURY THERE OVERWHELMING LIKE 60 40 PEOPLE IN IN TODAY'S CLIMATE.
PRETTY HARD TO, I'D RAY ON HIS, UH, EFFORTS AND ADDRESSING THESE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
HE'S REALLY BEEN PROACTIVE ON IT AND HE'S SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AT IT.
AND, UH, HE IS ALSO SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH ME, UH, EDUCATING ME ABOUT IT.
SO I'D LIKE COMMAND RAY FOR HIS AND THIS BECAUSE IT'S ALL FOR, IT'S ALL FOR THE GOOD OF THE CAMP.
WELL,
WELL HE TRIES TO HURT IT ALL THOUGH, DOESN'T IT? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY COME UP I'M SURE.
BUT THAT'S THE REASON EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED.
BUT IT IS, IT IS A COMMON SENSE ISSUES WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF US ARE LITTLE, WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, BUT LIFE GOES ON AND WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO KEEP PLENTY.
IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING, YOU'RE JUST GONNA BE STUCK
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OUT THERE IN THE FUTURE.BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE, AND THERE WAS ONE THING THAT REALLY CAME UP THAT, UH, THAT I NEVER HAD THOUGHT ABOUT, BUT SOMETIMES A LOW COST WAY OF, UH, MAKING TRAFFIC FLOW BETTER IS SIMPLY BY THE DRIVEN INTERSECTION THAT COST A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT ADDING A TURN LANE TO AN INTERSECTION CAN GET THAT, GET THOSE PEOPLE GOING.
I'VE TALKED TO, UH,
BUT THEY SAID YOU NEED TO GET 34 COMAN BUILT, 34 TERRA BUILT.
AND YOU MAY FIND OUT THAT YOU DON'T NEED THAT ROAD.
THEY MAKE MAY, THAT MAY SUFFICE QUITE A BIT.
ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC COMING AROUND.
RO COME AROUND FROM COFFMAN, MAY, MAY HELP THAT PROBLEM QUITE A BIT.
SO YOU HAVE TAKE LITTLE BABY STEPS AS YOU GO ALONG, BUT THEY SAID THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE ENGINEERS KIND OF LOOK AT THIS THING.
UH, YOU HAVE TO ANALYZE THE WHOLE, WELL, ONE OF THE BEST QUOTE THAT I HEARD FROM ONE GUY AT THE MEETING WAS THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, YOU'LL TODAY, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM, BUT JUST LIKE THE PAST YEAR FINANCING THING WAS, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO AND NEVER TALK ABOUT THAT.
THE PROPOSITION OF 12 MILLION THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE THREE OR FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO.
BE FUNDING SOURCES, HAVE FUNDING SOURCES FROM THE STATE AND FROM THE FED.
IS THAT, WE DUNNO WHAT THEY'RE, SOMEBODY'S GONNA THINK OF IT, BUT WE, WE'LL HAVE TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS AND THERE'LL BE SOME MONEY THERE TO LIVE THERE.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE, I HATE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN WORKING.
BUT IT OPENS UP A LAND FOR DEVELOPMENTAL MEANS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD JOB.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON NEGOTIATING.
THANKS LAURA FOR REMINDING WE DIDN'T ACCEPT OR I DIDN'T CALL MOTION FOR TO ACCEPT THE VARIOUS TREASURER'S REPORTS.
SO LET'S GO BACK UP TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER REPORT FROM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION COMMISSIONER MAY MOTION COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TREASURER'S QUARTERLY REPORT.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER ROWDEN WILL HAVE A SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND THEN FINALLY ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO, UH, ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S INVESTMENT REPORT FOR THE QUARTER ENDING JUNE 30 TO 11.
MOTION COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES A MOTION.
YOU GETTING ALL THIS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, NOW DOWN TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 11 TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON NEGOTIATING A STATE INFRASTRUCTURE LOAN THROUGH THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE CALL FROM, UH, HIGHWAY 34 BYPASS AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO, UH, SIGN.
AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE INFORMATION.
WE WERE LOOKING AT, TO START OFF WITH, UH, GO BACK YOU HISTORY, REAL SHORT HISTORY ON STATE.
THERE WAS THE, UH, THE PUBLIC MEETING OF SEPTEMBER OF THIS PAST YEAR ON 78 MILLION PROJECTS IN TON COUNTY AND STATE HIGHWAY 34, 2 2 4, 3 20 $6 MILLION WORTH OF OF PROJECT INCLUDING OVERPASS.
UH, THE PHASE TWO POINT WOULD BE WHAT THE PASTOR, THE CITY PUBLIC WORKING ON RIGHT NOW GOING FROM 1 75.
AND WE DO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER HERE, MR. SNOW HERE, GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US TODAY.
ANDREW, YOU'RE SIT THERE, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TOP PART UP THERE, IT SAYS 26 MILLION DOLLARS'.
THE LOCAL FUNDS, UH, LINE ITEM IN THERE ARE $5.4 MILLION.
AND OUR NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN, UH, DO, UH, COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, CITY OF TAR CITY, CAMAN,
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CITY OF CRANDALL, AND CITY OF NEY.UH, THAT WAS AGREEMENT THAT WAS REACHED AT THAT TIME THAT WE WOULD SPLIT THAT MONEY.
THE $2.7 MILLION WOULD PARTIALLY COME FROM THE, WOULD COME FROM THE COUNTY AND 2.7 WOULD COME FROM THE CITY, WHICH ENABLED US TO GET THE FULL 78 MILLION ENABLED, GIVE US THE FULL $78 MILLION AND DRIVE THAT, WHICH WAS ON THE LEVERAGE STANDPOINT.
THAT'S, THAT'S A HECK OF A BEAT.
IT'S, AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST, WE GOT ALL THESE PROJECTS BUILT WITH, WITH OUR TWO, WITH OUR COMMANDMENT 2.7 WE'VE HAD ALLOCATED TO TO THE ONE IN D RIGHT.
BASICALLY THE WAY IT WORKS THERE TO FIND OUT A WAY TO FIND THIS, TO DO THIS MONEY, UH, CURTIS, I HAVE BEEN DOWN TO AUSTIN DAY.
CURTIS HAD BEEN TWICE, WE WERE DOWN THERE TON COUNTY DAY TALKING WITH, UH, DO SMITH.
THERE'S A STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK.
UH, AS YOU, WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE OUT THERE UNTIL SOMEBODY KIND OF DROPPED SOMETHING IN A CONVERSATION AND IT'S LIKE THAT RTR MONEY, WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS ANY RTR MONEY.
WE COULDN'T EVEN SELL RTR YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS AGO UNTIL, UH, MIKE
UH, THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK WAS BROUGHT FOR BILL HALE TO ME.
AND WHAT IT IS, IT'S LIKE A CREDIT UNION.
YOU BOUGHT THE MONEY FROM THE STATE AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND PAY THAT MONEY BACK AND THEY TURN AROUND AND LOAN THAT MONEY AT END.
AND IT'S FAIR TO YOU, IT'S JUST BEEN AROUND LIKE FOUR, FIVE YEARS.
I THINK IT'S BEEN AROUND LONGER.
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN AROUND CURTIS, THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK? WHAT ABOUT IT? HOW, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN IN EXISTENCE? OH, I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF IT.
NO, I DON'T EITHER, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT IT UNTIL RIGHT.
BILL BROUGHT THAT, UH, AND SINCE WE AREN'T CONSIDERED AN ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COUNTY, WE CAN GET AN INTEREST RATE LATE 19 97, 0, 19 90, WE CAN GET AN INTEREST RATE.
UH, IT'S NEGOTIABLE AND IT KIND OF CHANGES DAY TO DAY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MARKETPLACE HAS DONE.
BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, LOOK, WE'RE LOOKING AT INTEREST RATE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF PERCENT.
DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT, CURTIS? YES, SIR.
I THINK THE CITY'S GOING TO ANTICIPATE GETTING THERE MONEY THE SAME WAY ON THE TWO AND HALF PERCENT LOAN.
AND, UH, SOME OF THE MEETINGS WE, I THINK YOU SAID I WANTED BE JUDGE WHERE A LOT COUNTY JUDGE MARK COUNTY FROM SAN ANGELO, TOM GREEN COUNTY, HE SAID, IF YOU'RE NOT MOTOR RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE STUPID.
BUT AT, AT THE INTEREST RATE THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT LOW, LOW INTEREST RATE.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR, I WOULD LIKE FORESEE US TO NEGOTIATE THE TERMS ARE NEGOTIABLE.
THE INTEREST RATE IS GOING BE KIND OF SET ON WHAT THE MARKETPLACE IS.
BUT LIKE, QUOTE, JUST AT AROUND 2.5, THE TERMS CAN BE NEGOTIATED OUT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME OR FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS DID YOU APPEAR? MAYBE 20 MM-HMM.
A 20 YEAR THING WITH AN EARLY PAYBACK.
IF, IF WE WANTED TO, THAT'S FINE.
IT'S NOT LIKE A BOND ISSUE AT ALL.
IT'S, IT'S JUST, UH, A CASH STREAM IS ACTUALLY BETWEEN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE.
BUT YOU DROVE DOWN AS MUCH OF IT.
I SHOULD ALSO ADD, YOU DON'T PAY INTEREST FUND MONEY.
SO THE INTEREST CLOCK STARTS THE TIME THAT YOU PULL THE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE WHEN I TALKED TO HIM BEFORE, WAYNE TALKED ABOUT LIKE TWO DRAWS, WHICH, WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE NEGOTIATING THE RIGHT OF WAY AS WE SPEAK.
AND SO ANYTIME THAT WE REDUCE ALL THESE COSTS THAT WE MAY NOT NEED THIS MONEY RIGHT AWAY.
I MEAN, IF WE BORROW $2.7 MILLION, WE MIGHT NOT NEED BUT 500,000 RIGHT NOW.
WE MIGHT NEED OTHER $2 MILLION WHEN CONSTRUCTION STARTS AFTER LIKE WITNESSES AFTER YOU GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL YARDS.
AND SO WE WOULDN'T BE PAYING INTEREST ON, BUT WHAT WE NEEDED, UH, UPFRONT, THAT'S WHY I WANT PUT IN THERE TALK, LET THE JUDGE MAKE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WHEN WE DETERMINE WHAT OUR COST IS GOING BE, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO SAY GIVE US $2.7 MILLION AND WE'LL START PAYING INTEREST ON IT.
WE'RE NOT GOING WANT THE MONEY UNTIL WE NEED THE MONEY.
THERE'S BEEN 88 OF THESE LOANS APPROVED ACROSS THE STATE AND YOURS GREEN WILL HAVE ONE FOR ME.
CITY GREEN WILL HAVE ONE FOR 7 55.
THIS IS JACKSONVILLE, UH, MESQUITE CITY AND MESQUITE HAS ONE FOR 5,000,600.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF, UH, COMMUNITIES THAT COUNTY BELIEVE, UH, THEIR CITY OF ATLANTA HAS ONE IN, UM, YOUTH.
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UH, AND THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD LOOKS LIKE HAS ONE TOO.TEXAS I THAT PROBABLY PAY BACK SOME THAT RTR
IT'S, UH, THE FLEXIBLE PART ON WHAT I READ BACK.
WE WE'RE NOT, THIS GIVES US, IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, THIS GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE FORWARD 2.7 THAT WE, THE 78 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECT GOING ON ARE THEY ASSUME GOING.
AND THAT ALLOWS, THAT WILL ALLOW US TO, ONCE WE FIND THIS, WHEN WE IDENTIFY THIS FUNDING SOURCE LETTER TO THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF KAUFMAN ON DOING THIS.
CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS DISCUSSION? OH, SURE, I'D LOVE TO.
WELL, I'M JUST OPTIMISTIC THAT, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOW.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO, UH, APPLAUD THE COMMISSIONER CLARK.
WE STARTED OUT WITH A $21 MILLION, UH, PROBLEM IN WHICH COMMISSIONER CLARK SORT OF REFEREE SOMETIMES HOSTILE CITIES AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPEND 21 MILLION AND NOW HE'S GOT A $76 MILLION AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AND, UH, CAN'T WAIT TO START THESE PROJECTS GOING.
SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE, WHICH YOU ACHIEVED.
OTHER, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE ALL? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, MOVE THIS? I MAKE THE MOTION NEGOTIATING PERMISSION TO NEGOTIATE STATE SECOND.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES THAT MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? AND JOHN, WE'LL NEED TO WORK WITH YOU WHEN WE GET INTO GET PAPERWORK, THIS PROCESS FULLY, FULLY INVOLVED.
LAURA ASHLEY, THIS QUEEN SIZE BEAUTYREST.
NORMALLY 1299 IS NOW JUST NINE.
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YEAH, WE'RE OPEN MAC, YOU KNOW,
AMERICA'S DINER IS ALWAYS OPEN PRICES OF PARTICIPATION, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING.
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO BEFORE THAT WE HAD, UH, DRAWING SESSIONS AND UH, JOHN HAD BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, UH, FOLKS FROM, UH, MR.
THERE IS A PROPOSED MAP WHICH IS ATTACHED, UH, TELEVISION ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN B REVISION TWO, WHICH I THINK HAD BEEN THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE.
EXHIBIT B TO THIS ORDER ALSO HAS HOW THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE.
REMEMBER WHEN YOU STARTED, YOU WERE, UH, I THINK LIKE 66% OUT OF WHACK, SO IT'S JUST COMPLETELY OUT OF WHACK.
BUT NOW YOU'RE UH, WELL BELOW THE 10% DEVIATION, YOU'RE AT 8.13.
AND SO, UH, THIS MAP SATISFIES THAT AND I THINK IT'S, UH, BEEN DISGUSTING WITH YOU.
UM, CONCERN THAT WE HAVE CERTAINLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS IS MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DE ON THIS AND, UH, THE PAPERS AND ALSO HAD REQUESTED ANY
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PUBLIC COMMENT.AND, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER.
AND IF ANY OF Y'ALL RECEIVED SEPARATE FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANY WRITTEN NOTES OR COMMENTS, UM, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO SHARE IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IT'LL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE SUBMISSION.
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS GOING TO, UH, IF YOU PROBE THIS ORDER, THEN THIS WILL BE PART OF WHAT IS SENT OFF TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR PRE-CLEARANCE.
MEANING THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES.
EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO DO PROCESSES PRE CLEAR.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE NEXT STEP, UM, IS, UM, THE REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF, UH, OF, UH, PRECINCTS IS, IS THAT RIGHT? VOTING? VOTING BOXES.
WELL, THAT'S PRELIMINARY DESIGN IS NO DECISION.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS, BUT OKAY.
JOHN, WHO DOES THAT? WELL, UM, MR. MURPHY WILL TALK WITH, UH, SHERRY AT OUR OFFICE AND SHE'LL HELP WITH THE DRAWING OF, OF THAT.
AND, AND SHE HAS, I THINK IT'S ALREADY PART OF, OF THE, THE SYSTEM OF THE PACKAGE THAT THEY HAVE, THE GIS OF WHERE THE BOXES ARE AND, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S A REASONABLE PLACE IF YOU'RE GONNA RELEASE THE BOXES.
WILL THERE BE A SERIES OF HEARINGS ON THAT OR IS THAT SOMETHING YES, YES.
SHE'S JUST GOING TO VISIT WITH HIM TO BEGIN WITH.
HERE'S A PROPOSAL, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED BY Y'ALL.
THAT'S NOT GONNA BE, THAT'S GONNA BE WORKED OUT.
THAT WILL ALSO REQUIRE, THAT ALSO REQUIRE PRE-CLEARANCE AS WELL.
BECAUSE THAT'LL REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING PRECLEARANCE ON THAT OF, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO AFFECT PEOPLE'S VOTING RIGHTS OR ABILITY TO VOTE.
WHEN, WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME ARE WE IN ON DOING THAT? UH, THAT PART CAN BE DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH PROBABLY.
I I ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL BE FINISHED WITH ALL THIS BY SEPTEMBER.
SEPTEMBER AND, AND WE SHOULD HEAR BACK HOPEFULLY FAIRLY SOON, UM, FROM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
THEY FILES A LAWSUIT OR THERE'S PARTICULAR COMPLAINTS WE DON'T ANTICIPATE.
I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT WE'RE PRETTY WELL ON SCHEDULE OR A LEVEL AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
UH, UH, FOR MOST COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT BIGGER STEP DEALS WITH YOUR SEVERAL WEEKS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT ON THIS ITEM? 12 OR I'M SORRY, ITEM 13, WE'RE NOT, DO WE NEED TO ACT ON THAT? OR WHAT SHOULD WE DO? UH, BUT WE'RE, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS ANY, I REMEMBER DALLAS COUNTY GOT IN QUITE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THEIRS, YOU KNOW WHERE RIGHT.
ALL, ALL YOU'RE SAYING BY THAT IS WE WANT YOU TO TAKE THIS DOCUMENT AND ITS ENCLOSURES AND FORMALLY SUBMIT THAT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
WHAT ABOUT 13? UH, UH, I GUESS THE 13 WOULD BE IF THERE'S ANY LAST MINUTE CHANGES TO THE PLAN.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY LAST MINUTE CHANGES? Y'ALL HOLD IT UP LIKE DALLAS COUNTY HAD ALL THE BIG COLLAR
I MEAN, NO, I, I DON'T WANT TO EITHER.
UH, I'M NOT SATISFIED THE WAY YOU PUT THAT ONE LAST LITTLE CHANGE THAT MADE IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CHANGED MYSELF.
MAKE IT LOOK RIGHT, BUT I THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I CAN'T SAY, I GUESS IT IS FAIR BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER WAY OF DOING IT.
IT JUST DOESN'T, YOU MIGHT EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WAS.
DID YOU FOR ANYBODY? UH, WELL THEY HAD, THEY HAD TO COME IN THERE RIGHT BY MY PRECINCT BARN OVER THERE AND HAD ONE SECTION OUT.
SO YOUR PRECINCT BARN WOULD STAY IN? WELL THAT, THAT'S, YEAH, BUT THAT WAS, THEY HAD TO TAKE THAT MUCH OUT TO PUT IN PRECINCT ONE TO MAKE THOSE DEVIATION NUMBERS MORE OUT.
SO WHAT IT DID AT DIVIDE IS WIND LANE WHERE PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE AND THIS SIDE, WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND A LOT OF PLACES EXCEPT FOR, IT'S ALMOST LIKE ONE BIG SUBDIVISION COMMUNITY OUT THERE.
AND SO I HATE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, BUT I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR IT.
SO I I I'M JUST GOING TO, UH, STATE MY DISPLEASURE AND, AND THAT BE IN THAT WAY, BUT SINCE I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR IT, I CAN'T REALLY SELL.
TOM AND I HAD THE SAME THING AND LEAST SAW NO WAY TO RESOLVE IT OTHER THAN JUST LEAVING IT THE WAY IT WAS.
THE LITTLE COMMUNITY OUT THERE, BUT, UH, SAME WE COULD DONE, BUT I COULDN'T SEE ANY WAY TO DO IT.
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I MEAN, 2 36 IS THE SAME WAY.ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND SIDE THE STREET.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE SPLITTING A COMMUNITY BUT DON'T HAVE SOLUTION.
WE'VE GOT ONE WITH A COMMUNITY SPLIT AT THAT TIME.
IT WAS THE LAST TIME AND STILL WILL BID.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT ON THIS ITEM 13, THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS WE MADE.
COMMISSIONER ROW MAKES THE MOTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECOND MOTION FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? LIKE SIGN ITEM 13 CARRIES NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A FINAL REDISTRICTING PLAN AND TO AUTHORIZE REDISTRICTING LEGAL SEE VOTING RIGHTS ACT SECTION NUMBER FIVE, PRE-CLEARANCE OF ADOPTION.
PLAN TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED I I'M NOT SAYING DO, BUT I'VE HEARD SOMETHING AROUND THIS TABLE CALLED YOU'RE PRECINCT, A BABY PRECINCT.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S STILL MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN PRECINCT TOO THAT DO THE OTHERS PRECINCT GEOGRAPHICALLY.
I'M NOT TRYING TO STIR UP ANYTHING.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS YOU DISCUSS AND ACT ON PROVING A FEE INCREASE AT THE CONVENIENCE STATION COST DISPOSAL YOURSELF.
UM, TOM BROUGHT UP THOSE PROBLEMS. UH, BACK IN THE SUMMER, UH, WE ALL LOOKED THROUGH OURS AND THE CITY LOOKED THROUGH THEIRS.
AND SINCE WE'RE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY ON OURS, THE CITY HAS, UH, RAISED THEIR CURRENT FEES FROM $5 PER QB YARD TO SEVEN 50 PER KI YARD AND ADDED A CHARGE CHARGE OF $2 PER TIME.
AND, UH, I I'M ASKING THAT WE DO THE SAME THING ON OURS AND WE HAVE RICHARD UNDERWOOD HERE.
IF HE HAS ANY, UH, COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, RICHARD, UH, UM, YOU PRETTY MUCH SAID IT.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED SINCE 1992.
BEEN THE SAME, SAME PRODUCT FOREVER.
AND I DO REALIZE THAT THAT'S A SERVICE THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND ALL OF OUR PEOPLE.
BUT UH, WE NEED A LITTLE HELP IN IT SOMETIMES.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THOSE RAISES TO BE RAISED.
SEVEN 50, I MEAN RAISED 2 7 50 PER 50 YARD.
AND WE'RE HEADING ACHAR CHARGE OF $2 PER ENTIRE FEE.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER WRATH.
COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMANDING SECONDS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVORS.
SEE, I'M SORRY, THE, UH, THE DOCUMENT IS THAT, UH, YEAH, I NOTICED THAT MISSPELLED HONOR.
SO THE OPPOSED YOU GET THAT? YES.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF UN LOCAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF T AND COUNTY FOR THE ENFORCEMENT OF SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS IN THE E THE ETJ OF THE TOWN OFT RIGHT DON? THINK WE GOT THAT LITTLE ISSUE RESOLVED AS YET? WE, WE HAVE, UH, THE CONTRACTING OF ATTACHED IS, IS NOT A FINAL.
WE, WE HAVE ONE VERSION AFTER THIS THAT INCLUDES A WHOLE HARMLESS LANGUAGE, WHICH WE WANT, OF COURSE, AND ALSO EXCLUDES, UM, SEPTIC SYSTEM REGULATIONS AND INSPECTIONS.
AND, AND I THINK THERE'S A, A THIRD POINT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
BUT, BUT THIS, THIS IS I GUESS THE, THE FORM OF WHAT WE WANT, BUT THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WE, SO WE NEED TO MAYBE TAYLOR TO COME BACK TO IT.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE APPROVED, IT'S JUST THERE'S SOME MORE FINE.
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HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER TO THE TABLE.THE OTHER DISCUSSION TO THE TABLE.
ONE I ACTUALLY PUT ON THE AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON PENDING THE APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR THE COUNTY THOUSAND 11 RESIGNATION RETIREMENT POLICY 30 11 OF THE JULY 22ND, 11 LAST WEEK.
WE'VE HAD I BELIEVE FIVE PEOPLE AT THIS POINT.
WE'VE GOT OTHERS THAT ARE TALKING TO AND DEPENDING ON HOW OUR BUDGET, UH, WORKSHOP CONTINUE AS FAR AS UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, IS AND THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL THAT WE ULTIMATELY WILL WIND UP FOR NEXT YEAR, I'D REALLY LIKE TO EXTEND THIS THROUGH AUGUST 30TH IF POSSIBLE JUST TO GET WIGGLE ROOM.
AS FAR AS OUR BUDGET, UH, WORKSHOPS CONSIDERATIONS ARE CONCERNED.
WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE MAKING GREAT, GREAT HEADWAY, BUT WE STILL, UH, YOU KNOW, WE MAY STILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT REVIEW PERSONNEL FURTHER.
I MOVE, WE EXTEND THE DEADLINE.
COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION, UH, TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE TO, UH, AUGUST 31ST, 2011.
COMMISSIONER SECONDS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NOW DISCUSS AND ACT ON PARKING THE COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP TO ALLOW THEM TO PURCHASE FUEL IN KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.
I FORMAL, I JUST DUNNO IF ANY, BUT ANYWAY, THIS, THEY'LL REIMBURSE.
I ALSO, I THINK I MISSED THE CHECK.
SO JUDGE, I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE, UH, TAX THAT, UH, SITUATION WHERE, WHERE, IF THEY'RE NOT TAX EXEMPT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING FUEL WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR AND NOT CHARGE TAX.
HOW DO WE DO THAT? ANY OTHERS? WELL, THEY ARE A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION AND I MAY BE WRONG, BUT I ASSUME THAT, THAT YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.
YOU ASSUME, BUT I ASSUME WHEN WE INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS THAT THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE THAT THAT WAS MY SIDE.
WE'RE A 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT TAX, BUT I DON'T, I MEAN WE MAY HAVE SOME WORK WITH THAT.
YEAH, SHE'S, SHE SIT OUT BACK THERE.
BILL, UH, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? THAT'S, I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY THIS.
WE'LL GET JOHN TO CLARIFY THAT.
YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, JOHN? I I DO NOT.
OKAY, THE QUESTION IS RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT PAY SOME TAX ON FUEL.
UH, AND IF WE ENTER INTO THIS INTERLOCAL G WITH THEM, WE'LL THE, UH, SOLID WAY OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP, WILL THEY BE EXEMPT FROM THAT TAX? EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT EXEMPT FROM THE TAX, WE PROBABLY BUY FUEL CHEAPER THAN WHAT THEY CAN BUY, I WOULD IMAGINE WITH OUR CONTRACT.
SO, UH, WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION? SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND PROVE THIS SUBJECT? FINDING OUT WHETHER THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THE TAX? UM, LEMME LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'LL BE EXEMPT.
THE TAX, I'M HAVE A CONCERN THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY ONE C3 DOING IT BY AN INTER AGREEMENT.
I MEAN THEY MAY BE, BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING THE FUEL IN YOUR VEHICLE.
THEY'RE NOT OUR VEHICLES, THEY'RE YOUR VEHICLES.
SO, UM, THEY, THEY BELONG TO US, BUT THE COUNTY, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST, ALL WE DO IS WE DRIVE 'EM AND RUN CHANGE THINGS.
THEY'LL SAY WE, HOW MANY PEOPLE'S GONNA BE USING FUEL THAT TIME? IT'S FOR YOUR, UM, HOW MANY, HOW MANY VEHICLES? WE HAVE TWO, TWO VEHICLES.
AND WHEN SHOULD WE GO TO THE FUEL MAN PROGRAM LATER ON? HAVE TO COME BACK AND CHANGE
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TO THE FUEL? MAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO AND WE ACTUALLY ARE ON FUEL MAN RIGHT NOW.SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD END UP BEING, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENCE.
MY THOUGHT IS THAT YOU BUY FUEL, UM, PROBABLY AT A CERTAIN COST.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVERY TIME YOU FILL UP THE TANK IT'S A DIFFERENT COST OR NOT.
I DON'T HOW ARE YOU ON FUEL MAN? AND WE'RE NOT, WE ARE ON FUEL MAN BECAUSE WE'RE AN INDEPENDENT, UM, WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO SUPPLY OUR OWN GAS, SO I WAS LOOKING FOR WHATEVER COST THAT I COULD GET THAT WAS CHEAPER.
SO, AND IT MAY END UP BEING PRIVATE COMPANIES, BUT THAT IS LESS EXPENSIVE.
JOHN, DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION ON THIS? IS, IS SHE SAYING THAT, THAT THE FUELS USED EXCLUSIVELY ON ON COUNTY VEHICLES? YES.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH HER THAT SHE SAYING THAT SHE GOT THESE VEHICLES WITH GRANTS, BUT IT BELONGS TO THE CAMP EVEN THOUGH THE VEHICLES BELONG TO THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
UH, OVER MAKE SURE COUNTY THINKING THAT THAT IT'S HUNDRED PERCENT USED BY THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S, WE PAY FOR THIS YOURSELVES.
SO, AND THE CO-OP WILL REIMBURSE THE COUNTY PRECINCT FREE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TOM.
IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, JUST, YOU KNOW, I WAS, UH, WHEN WE HAD OUR FUEL MAN PRESENTATION DOWN THERE, UH, I WAS UNDER IMPRESSION THAT THE GUY GAVE US THAT, THAT THE FUEL MAN COST AND ABOVE FIELD WE BUY FROM THE JUST RIGHT THERE TOGETHER, JUST LIKE THAT RIGHT CLOSE TOGETHER.
WHEN YOU CONSIDER UH, BULK FUEL, FAR AS SMALL SOURCE TANKS, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.
WE HAD UNDERGROUND SOURCE TANKS, 8,000 GALLON TANKS.
I KNOW THAT WHERE WE HAVE TO GO, WE HAVE TO GO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FUEL STATIONS.
SO MY GUYS ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT PRICE AND WE CAN FIND ONE THAT'S 10 CENTS CHEAPER THAN ANOTHER ONE.
SO THAT'S WHY I WASN'T SURE WHAT, I'VE NEVER SEEN WHAT YOU PAY, SO I HAVEN'T EVER BEEN ABLE TO COMPARE TO SEE IF IT IS, IF IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE.
WE'RE RUNNING YOUR PROGRAM WITH YOUR VEHICLES AND WE PAY THE GAS.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE FOR US.
TO TRY TO MANAGE THIS PROGRAM BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION.
I I I THINK IT'S, I THINK THIS IS OKAY, THIS IS SHOULD SHOULD WE TAKE OR SHOULD I I THINK YOU CAN GO FORWARD AND UH, MY, MY CONCERN WAS JUST IS IT THEY USED FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT ENCOUNTERED USE THIS IS IF IT'S HUNDRED PERCENT COUNTY USE OF, OF THE VEHICLES, OF OUR VEHICLES, THAT'S WELL, IT IT IS ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP USE OF OUR VEHICLES.
I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEPARATE ENTITIES, RIGHT? BUT THEY'RE USING OUR VEHICLES, THE VEHICLES THEY USE ALONG THE COUNTY.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP BUSINESS, NOT COUNTY BUSINESS.
WELL IT'S COUNTY BUSINESS BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T DRIVE THOSE VEHICLES FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN, UH, THE PROGRAM THAT WE WORK DO FOR YOU.
I DON'T DRIVE THOSE TO GO, YOU KNOW, TO A MEETING.
I, I ONLY DRIVE THOSE FOR THAT PROGRAM.
WE, THEY REIMBURSE ME FOR MY GAS IN MY OWN PERSONAL CAR FOR ANYTHING THAT I DO.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE MEETINGS OR ANYTHING.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S IT'S A COUNTY PROPERTY, BUT IT'S NOT ALL COUNTY BUSINESS? WELL, THEY'RE DOING COUNTY CODE WINGS.
BUT THEY'RE A SEPARATE ENTITY.
BUT THEY'RE DOING OUR COUNTY LINE PROGRAMS. AND ANOTHER QUESTION IS, IS THIS THE ONLY TWO VEHICLES YOU HAVE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THIS WITH? RIGHT, BECAUSE OUR PER, WE ALL USE OUR OWN PERSONAL VEHICLES AND WE CHARGE THE CO-OP FOR THAT MILEAGE OURSELVES.
YOU KNOW, WE GET THAT REIMBURSED, BUT THESE WOULD BE THE ONLY TWO THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE IF, IF WE WERE SIGNED
BUT AT THE MOMENT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
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TRUCK AND THE F-150.JOHN, DON'T YOU JUST LOAD THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS? I DO.
I, I, YEAH, I NOW I'LL HELP CLARIFY THAT FOR ME.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PROGRAM THAT BENEFITS THE COUNTY BUT IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY THE COUNTY.
WHY? WELL, ACCORDING TO MARYLAND, THAT'S ALL THEY USE THOSE TWO VEHICLES FOR, RIGHT? IS THE COUNTY PROGRAM.
IT'S JUST, IT'S A SEPARATE ENTITY.
WE OWN THE VEHICLES THEY USE FOR OUR PROGRAM.
I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE OKAY.
YOU WANT US TO TABLE IT? TABLE IT FOR THE, OKAY, I MAKE TABLE BACK, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S OKAY.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ME.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE A.
UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO BEFORE WE DO THE UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND THE PAYMENT OF BILLS IS UH, GO AHEAD AND ACT ON ADDENDUM.
WE ADDED TO THIS, UH, MEETING FOR TODAY.
THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 23 AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON SEEKING PROPOSAL FOR THE OUTSIDE AUDIT 11.
JACK, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? THE HOW WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOME CAN MAKE THAT MOTION.
ANY SECOND MR. ROUND? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
MY FAVORITE TRANSFER TO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.
$600 TO INCREASE CONTRACT SERVICES PROGRAM OFFICE SUPPLIES IN GENERAL.
WE, WE HAD MISUNDERSTANDING HAD A, UH, AN INCREASE IN BUDGET A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
WE'RE REVERSING THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE TIME DOLLARS.
THAT WAS A, IT WASN'T A DOUBLE BILLING.
IT WAS, IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING.
WHEN WE GOT THE BILL IN OUR OFFICE, UH, THE TREASURER HAD HELD A CHECK, WHICH I THINK I DIDN'T KNOW IT, BUT HE HELD IT, WHICH WAS A GOOD IDEA.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE GOT ANOTHER ON THE OFFICERS AND IT APPEARED THAT'S WE, THEY THAT TRANSFER 5,020 LANDLINE MR. CLERK'S OFFICE MOVING $10 FOR MILEAGE.
MILLS OF LODGING TO DO IS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS MOVING 1500 FROM JANITORIAL SUPPLIES TO PICKUP IN THE JAIL.
UH, WHEN WE GOT THE NEW CONTRACT OUT THERE, THAT STARTED DURING THE YEAR, WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET INITIALLY, BUT WE DID HAVE MEDICAL OFFICERS BUDGET THAT WENT AWAY THROUGH THAT CONTRACT.
SO TO COVER THE REST YEAR THAT CONTRACT SALARIES, CONTRACT, UH, DPS AND POLICE OFFICE SUPPLIES 2000 REDUCTION EXTRA HELP AND THE END OF THE DEFENSE AREA.
WE'RE MOVING 22,000 FROM CPS ATTORNEYS TO THE DISTRICT COURT.
AND WE NEVER KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA FALL DURING THE YEAR TO THIS KIND OF BUDGET BASED ON PRIOR YEARS AND WHEN IT HITS, WE GOTTA MOVE IT.
BUT THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THAT, IN THAT BUDGET.
THE TRANSFERS AREA, WE BUDGET 50,000 FOR LENGTH DOWN MAINTENANCE, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL ONLY BE 25 AT THIS POINT, RIGHT.
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THE SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATIONS HAD COFF, WE NEED ADDITIONAL MONEY TO FINISH THE YEAR.SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE 8,000 FROM THE LAKE DOWN.
MAINTENANCE TRANSFERS TO THE SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION.
TRANSFER FOUR, INCREASED GARBAGE PICK UP $400 PRODUCTION ANNUAL CLEANUP COSTS, KAMAN COUNTY LIBRARY IONS, NEW EQUIPMENT, JUVENILE PROBATION, 2000 OPERATING TRANSPORTATION PROB FEE FUND, WHICH IS NOT COUNTY FUNDS DUE.
THE $200 FROM MISCELLANEOUS TO NON RESIDENTIAL SERVICE.
AND THEN THE LONE STAR LIBRARY FUND, WHICH IS A DONATION TYPE THING.
UM, WE NEED TO INCREASE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE, HUNDRED DOLLARS BOOKS.
ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE GOT SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO GO ALONG WITH, UH, SOME OF THESE TRANSPORT, LIKE SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION IN 8,000 AND JUVENILE PROBATION.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT SECURE PLACEMENT AND THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT WE'RE CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDS FOR 46,004 SIX AND BUDGETING.
NOW THAT'S, UH, I THINK THAT'S PART, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? LINE ITEM UPDATE ON THAT ITEM? SHE, SHE JUST SAYS I DIDN'T GIVE THIS, BUT DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.
I, FOR THE ONES I GOT THE WEEK BEFORE, MAYBE I, I'LL SEE WHAT WE DO.
I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE TRANSFER.
JACKSON, THAT MOTION ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? THEN FINALLY DISCUSS AND ACT ON YOU BUMP.
AND SHE SAID, I SAID NO, BUT IT,
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WELL THEY'RE A NONPROFIT.THEY'RE NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY.
FEDERAL, I KNOW THAT WITH OUR FUEL.
SO I KNOW THAT THEY ALREADY LOOKED INTO THAT, BUT I DUNNO WHAT TAKE TAX RIGHT OFF.
SO I MEAN I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD BE SIMILAR.
I WANTED TO ASK HIM BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I'VE GOT TWO MINUTES.
ONE I'VE TALKED TO THE JUDGE ABOUT, UM, WE NEED A THREE QUARTER TON PICKUP SOMETHING THE TRUCK OR SOMETHING THAT, IS THERE ANYTHING GOING ON THE AUCTION BLOCK THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT IS THAT KIND OF A TRUCK? BECAUSE HE SAID THAT WE COULD, THAT YOU GUYS COULD POSSIBLY GIVE IT TO US.
I DUNNO, THERE'S WE DON'T TIMELY HAVE SOMETHING.
I KNOW, KNOW, I WAS JUST, WE'RE OKAY.
SO AND THEY CAN FIND ONE TO SAY THEY, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND ONE WE DON'T HAVE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO.
HE'S HAD A STUDY OR SOME KIND OF STUDY THAT OR SOMETHING FROM, FROM COMPANIES.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GOING WELL SO THAT WORK SO THAT INSTEAD OF YOU PAYING NEXTERA, WHOEVER OF THINGS DONE MAKING STICKERS AND DOING EMAIL TYPE THINGS, YOU KNOW, BUT WE THOUGHT HE MUCH SO THAT'S WHAT HE HAD SAID.
WE UP TO, YOU KNOW, I, I'M ASSUMING, BUT I CAN PROBABLY DO SOME OF THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
UM, I WORK WITH A GIRL IN THE CITY OF IRVING AND SHE'S DOING THAT.
SHE HAS ALREADY SAID SHE CAN PLAN.
SO JUST INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT, WE JUST CAN.
SO JUST, I WAS THINKING MAYBE HALF SMALL IN,
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AROUND THERE WITH A EYE DROP, SUCKERS UP, MAKE MONEY AND THEN PS WE HAVE TO THE CASE FILE, LOOK AT IT, SIGN IT.AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE TO, SO THAT THE JUDGE, THE ONLY THING I GUESS, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S DIFFERENT, THE SAME, A FIRMWARE UPGRADE SHOW UP THREE A COPY FOR ADAM.
YOU CO-OP GRANT, SHE BUYS FEE, THEN THE VEHICLE BELONGED TO THE COUNTY.
SHE SAYS SHE BUY, SHE BUY THE GRANT.
SHE ALWAYS SAYS I GOT THESE GRANTS.
YES SHE DOES COUNTY AND SHE USED THEM FOR CO-OP PURPOSES.
WOULD BENEFITS COUNTY AND COUNTY FURNISH FUEL FROM FOR THOSE CARDS.
AND THEN REIMBURSEMENTS ON PERSONAL CARDS.
IF SHE DOES TAKES CARE OF OTHER CO-OP, CO-OP PAYS FOR PERSONAL, PERSONAL.
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WE'RE TO LET HER USE OUR GAS AND PAY US FOR.I JUST WANTED MAKE SURE JOHN IS AWARE.
WELL I'M GLAD JACK BROUGHT I NEVER ABOUT YEAH, THAT'S WHY I SAID WE GOT DEAL WITH I BID, BUT I DON'T WANNA START BIDDING ON UNTIL FRIDAY BECAUSE IT FRIDAY, FRIDAY THREE.
THIS IS NOT AN EXPENSIVE ITEM.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO THOUSAND A A PIECE.
SO COST A RETAILER BUT IT'S NOT HANDLING.
AND DO YOU KNOW, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR Y'ALL.
DO Y'ALL KNOW WHAT A STEEL BRUSH ON A ROAD BRUSH BROOM IS USED FOR? A STEEL SET OF BRUSHES THAT GOES ON A ROAD.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE USED FOR? I'M SURPRISED.
YOU MEAN I ACTUALLY FOUND OUT SOMETHING.
YOU'LL PROBABLY FIND A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS DON'T HELP TO LOOK AROUND.
IT'S USED TO CLEAN UP STEELS AT THE AIRPORT WHEN THEY TRANSFER SEWAGE FROM AIRPLANES TO THE TRUCK.
THEY USE, THEY USE, THERE YOU GO.
THAT'S THAT'S MY, I FIGURED IT BRUSH OFF CONCRETE
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MAN.THAT JUST BY PURELY BY ACCIDENT.
IT'S GOOD TO KNOW, KNOW FIRST, FIRST I GOTTA A ROOM.
WELL THERE'S ABOUT 20 OF THEM ON BAGS PER YEAH, GET OUTTA STARTED EIGHT.
THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION MONDAY MORNING.
I'M JUST NOT SPENDING, I SAY 1.6 MILLION.
I I BELIEVE YOU'RE HONOR THIS.
I'M NOT THINKING, I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'S MY OF SOMETHING.
THESE AGENTS SHOWS, WHAT ARE THEY DOING GOING, I STEP UP ON ROUTE AND ASK YOU WHERE YOU GOING I GUESS.
THEN I'LL FIND OUT THAT I'M SURE YOU'LL YOU COMING OVER THERE? NO SIR.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET MEETING AT 9, 9 30.
NINE 30 FOR LUNCH OR
AND LUNCH, YOU BUDGET HOW YOU, OH, OKAY.
OH, THERE'S THE LITTLE RECEIPT.
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COLS REAL TIME RECORD.THAT'S LIKE SOMEBODY WRITING CHECK FOR THREE.
I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH MAXTON.
I'VE DONE CAN CAN THE JUDGE NOT GO DOWN THERE AND TALK TO THEM A LITTLE BIT, SEE WHAT THEY GOT? IT SOUNDS THE SAME.
I THINK THAT GUY SLAPPED HIM AROUND.
JOHNNY SAID TO 6 MILLION BY MAY HAVE MOVED
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AND HE LAST WEEK.SO SOMEBODY SO WE THAT THERE'S A DEFINITE NEED TO MOVE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
WHICH PUT THAT WE'RE DONE THAT IT ALL HAVE A MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
BOTH OPPOSED TO ADJOURN YOU GET TO? YES.
ONE THE ADJOURNED MANNING TO ADJOURN.
OPPOSED? WE COVERED LOT TERRITORY.
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AND THEN WHAT PAGE, WHAT? THREE.SO YOU JUST PUT THE DR HERE AND OKAY.
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