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WE WILL OPEN THE MEETING, UH, WITH OUR INVOCATION AND I LAST TO DO THAT.
THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG, THE TEXAS FLAG, AND THEN WE'LL INTRODUCE ANY VISITORS WE HAVE.
SO IF YOU'LL JOIN WITH ME AND STANDING MR. PRACTICE.
DEAR HEAVEN, FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING THAT YOU IS TOWED UPON US.
LOOK DOWN UPON US, LORD, GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS FOR THE COUNTY TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE.
I LOOK, LORD, LOOK OVER COMMISSIONER RAD AS HE IS UNDERGOING SURGERY THIS MORNING.
OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS WILL BE WITH HIM.
BLESS THE MAN WHO ARE OVERSEAS PROTECTING OUR COUNTRY, LORD, KEEP THEM SAFE AND BRING HIM HOME SOON.
ALL THIS WE ASK IN YOUR NAME, I MEAN AMEN.
PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVIDUAL.
COUNCIL VISITORS THAT ARE WITH US THIS MORNING THAT HAVE ASKED IF YOU ARE A VISITOR AND YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, NOW IS THE TIME TO GET YOUR NAME TO US SO WE CAN INTRODUCE YOU.
BUT, UH, WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE WITH US, UH, DAVID HUDSON THIS MORNING, WHO IS VISITING WITH US.
AND I BELIEVE HE HAS, UH, SOMEONE WITH HIM AND ALL THAT.
JUDGE HUDSON, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH PURDUE BRANDON FIELDER COLLINS AND TYLER, UH, I'M HERE TODAY, UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE INTERESTED IN THE RFQ THAT Y'ALL HAVE ISSUED, UH, FOR DENT TO TAX COLLECTION AND FINE WORK WITH ME TODAY IS EBONY COBB.
EBONY IS ALSO AN ATTORNEY WITH THE, UH, TYLER WITH THE OFFICE, AND SHE'S IN THE ARLINGTON OFFICE OF THE FIRM.
WE ARE HERE JUST TO, UH, GET BETTER ACQUAINTED, TO SEE FRIENDS THAT WE'VE KNOWN FOR, FOR A LONG TIME IN THE PAST AND, AND TO MEET TO, UH, NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF MAKING THESE DECISIONS FOR KAMAN COUNTY.
HAPPY TO, TO MAKE YOUR ACQUAINTANCE AND, UH, AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL FOR THESE TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU.
EBONY, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UH, NO.
JUST WHAT HE SAID AND, UM, WE JUST LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW YOU GUYS AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO THE PHONE AND MEET WITH US, DISCUSS THOSE THINGS.
IN OUR MEETING, MR. HUS AND I GO BACK ABOUT 30 YEARS.
HE WAS A FORMER, IS A FORMER MEMBER OF THE, UH, TEXAS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COLLEGE INSTRUCTOR, JUNIOR COLLEGE, NOW ON THE BOARD THERE.
SO WE POLICE DON'T HOLD THE FACT THAT I WAS IN THE LEGISLATURE AGAINST
ANYONE ELSE, UH, HERE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COURT? ALRIGHTY.
WE HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF, UH, ITEMS ON ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS MORNING.
FIRST, JUST AN UPDATE FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER
AND I UNDERSTAND THE SURGERY IS COMPLET AND WE'RE WAITING FOR AN UPDATE FROM HIM, BUT HE'S GONNA BE OUT OF CIRCULATION FOR A FEW DAYS.
BUT, UH, OUR, OUR COMMISSIONER COURT MEETINGS MAY NOT BE QUITE AS WISE WITHOUT HIM BEING HERE, BUT, UH, AT ANY RATE, WE WISH, UH, JERRY WELL, AND AS HE GETS ON THE, THE WAY TO RECUPERATION.
UH, NEXT ITEM I HAVE FOR YOU IS OUR, WE TRY TO GIVE YOU AN UP TO DATE EVERY MONTH ON THE, UH, WHERE WE ARE ON OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
AND, UH, UH, IF YOU GO BACK AND COMPARE US TO 2009 10 AND THEN TO 2010 11, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT WE ARE, OUR TRENDS ARE STILL VERY, VERY GOOD.
OUR REVENUE IS UP, UH, BY $1,303,673, AND THEN OUR EXPENSES ARE DOWN,
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UH, COMPARED TO THE SAME BUDGET TIME PERIOD LAST YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE AT THE END OF, UH, 10 MONTHS THROUGH, UH, JULY 31ST.OUR EXPENSES ARE DOWN 2.5 OR $2,596,584.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE END OF THE 10 MONTH PERIOD, WE ARE STILL, BETWEEN EXPENSES AND INCREASED REVENUE, WE ARE STILL AHEAD BY THREE POINT $900,000, 3,000,902, UH, $900,257.
UH, THAT'S DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM LAST MONTH.
BUT AS A REMINDER, UH, OUR REVENUE DOES TREND TO FALL A LITTLE BIT DURING THE END OF OUR BUDGET YEAR.
SO, UH, THAT PROBABLY WILL CONTINUE THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE OF MONTHS.
BUT STILL, UH, BEING AHEAD, $3.9 MILLION AT, UH, AT THIS 10 MONTH PERIOD IS VERY, VERY GOOD.
AND THAT, THAT, UH, REFLECTS, UH, VERY MUCH THE PARTNERSHIP, UH, THAT WE HAVE WITH EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED IN OUR COUNTY BUDGET THIS YEAR.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW PLEASED I AM, UH, THE TEAMWORK AND THE SPIRIT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT, TRYING, UH, TRYING TO GET OUR BUDGET NUMBERS, UH, BACK ON THE POSITIVE SIDE.
AND, UH, UNLIKE OUR FRIENDS IN WASHINGTON, UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT WITH A GREAT, WELL, NOT A GREAT DEAL OF, UH, UH, WELL, WE'VE HAD, I MEAN, VERY LITTLE RESISTANCE.
EVERYBODY'S PULLING TOGETHER AGAIN, AS I SAID, AS A TEAM EFFORT.
SO YOU SHOULD, UH, UH, AS COMMISSIONERS AND AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, ALL BE VERY, VERY PROUD OF THAT.
IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, AND I EXPECT THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE THE NEXT TWO MONTHS AS WE'RE WINDING UP THIS BUDGET.
AND THEN, AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR MEETING TODAY, WHEN WE GET ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR ITEMS OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE WAY, UH, WE WILL BE HAVING A BUDGET UPDATE.
UH, OUR AUDITOR HAS PUT TOGETHER SOME NUMBERS FOR US OVER THIS WEEKEND, AND I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH HIM ABOUT THAT.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING, UH, VERY, VERY GOOD FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
UH, BUT WE'VE STILL GOT, GOT, STILL GOT THE WAYS TO GO ANNOUNCE THAT WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
THE OTHER ITEM, UH, IS AN ITEM CONCERNING, UH, THE ROAD MILES, UH, COMMISSIONER ROAD MILES.
THIS CAME FROM OUR, UH, GROUP, UH, UH, THAT'S HELPING US WITH THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
AND THESE ARE THEIR ESTIMATES OF COUNTY ROAD MILES.
AND I KNOW FOR COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT NUMBER FOR YOU.
UH, AND THESE MAY NOT BE TOTALLY ACCURATE.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW YOUR ROADS, UH, BETTER THAN ANYONE.
BUT IN COMMISSIONER PRECINCT ONE, UH, COMMISSIONER RAVENS PRECINCT, HE SHOWS A 234.25 MILES.
UH, COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK AT 113.4 MILES, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON AT 220 IN PRECINCT 3 227 0.34 MILES.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING AT 322.08 MILES.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES AND, UH, BUT THESE ARE THE, UH, ESTIMATED ROAD MILES COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRECINCTS THAT, THAT ARE NOW BEFORE THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOR APPROVAL.
AND WE JUST GOT THESE, I BELIEVE THIS MORNING.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY, UH, EMAILED TO US THIS MORNING.
SO THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT, MIGHT WANNA HAVE THAT AS WE GET INTO BUDGET DELIBERATION, GO A LITTLE FURTHER ON DOWN THE WAY.
AND LET'S SEE, ALL THE OTHER ITEM I HAD, AND I BELIEVE THERE IS INFORMATION ON THE, UH, TABLES.
UH, THIS IS KIND OF, I THINK IN TODAY'S, UH, TELEPHONE NEWS, RADIO NEWS, THEY CALL IT BREAKING NEWS.
AND, UH, THIS ACTUALLY OCCURRED LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, AND COMMISSIONER MANNING CALLED ME ABOUT THE WATER SITUATION, OR LACK OF WATER, I GUESS IS A BETTER WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
AND, UH, DOWN IN THE KEMP AREA, THE CITY OF KEMP IS WITHOUT WATER.
AND, UH, MR. MANNING CALLED ME YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND WAS ASKING, UH, FOR HELP WHAT, WHAT, UH, HE COULD DO TO HELP.
AND CERTAINLY HE'S BEEN PROVIDING A TANK TRUCK TO PROVIDE WATER FOR ANIMALS, UH, LARGE AND SMALL ANIMALS, I UNDERSTAND.
AND WE ALSO, UH, UH, STEVE HUEY IS HERE, UH, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
AFTER TOM AND I TALKED, I CALLED STEVE AND HE'S BEEN, UH, UP UNTIL THE NIGHT GETTING HELP FROM THE STATES.
SO I'M GONNA CALL ON COMMISSIONER MANNINGS.
UH, FIRST JUST TO GIVE US AN UPDATE SINCE THIS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
UH, WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE, AT THIS POINT, WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE, UH, NON POT, THE WATER, AND THE DRINKING WATER SITUATION.
UH, WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON IT.
UH, YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AT FIVE O'CLOCK, I RECEIVED, UH, PERMISSION FROM THE JUDGE TO, UH,
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UH, GET MY TANKERS OUT.THE CITY OF MAYBANK WAS, UH, VERY KIND TO DONATE US, UH, TWO TANKER LOADS OF WATER.
UH, WEST CEDAR CREEK MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT DONATED ONE TANK, AND, UH, WE PARKED THOSE TANKERS IN FRONT OF THE CITY HALL, UH, AS NON POPPABLE WATER USAGE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO FEED THEIR ANIMALS, UH, FLUSH THEIR COMMODES, WHAT HAVE YOU.
I WAS IN TOUCH WITH MR. HOOEY AT THE SAME TIME, AND, UM, HE WAS DOING EVERYTHING HE COULD TO, UH, UH, PROVIDE DRINKING WATER AND, UH, UH, BUT WE PRETTY MUCH STAYED THERE UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK LAST NIGHT.
WE PUT TWO TANKERS BACK IN THE YARD, AND WE LEFT ONE TANKER OUTSIDE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMEBODY THERE AT THE CITY HALL, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OVERNIGHT.
THEY HAD, UH, CASES OF DRINKING WATER.
UH, CITY MAYBANK DONATED FIVE PALLETS OF WATER TO THE CITY OF KEMP.
UH, WALMART SENT 18 WHEELER LOAD OF WATER FROM PALESTINE, GOT THERE AFTER I LEFT.
BUT, UH, WE WERE THERE AT 5 45 THIS MORNING, HAD TANKERS OUT, UH, MAKING SURE THE NURSING HOME HAD PLENTY OF WATER WHERE THEY COULD, UH, HAVE THEIR SANITARY SERVICES GOING.
AND, UH, WE TOPPED OFF THEIR, UH, THEIR TANK FIRST THING THIS MORNING.
SO EVERYTHING'S, EVERYTHING'S IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
WHEN I LEFT THE CITY OF KEMP, THEY WERE, UH, THERE WAS QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THERE, UH, BRINGING THEIR OWN CONTAINERS, GETTING NON POTABLE WATER OUT OF THE WATER TANKERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO, UH, AND THOSE TANKS, THOSE TANKERS WILL BE AVAILABLE, UH, UNTIL THE SITUATION IS RESOLVED.
SO, MR. HOOEY COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THE DRINKING WATER.
WELL, WE WORKED TILL ABOUT MIDNIGHT LAST NIGHT TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY WITH A TANKER.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH, IF THEY CAN FREE UP ONE OF THEIR 6,000 GALLON TANKERS SO WE CAN BRING POTABLE WATER IN.
UM, MAYOR KYLE HAS SPOKEN WITH THEM AS I HAVE TO TRY AND GET THIS IN, IN THE WORKS AND GET THAT DOWN THERE.
WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO MAKE CONTACT WITH SHEP'S DAIRY IN DALLAS, ZACA WATER AND COCA-COLA, UH, MODELING COMPANY TO SEE IF WE CAN SECURE A TANKER FROM ONE OR MORE OF THOSE TO BRING POTABLE WATER INTO THE CITY.
UM, PART OF WHAT MY JOB IS, IS RELAYING THIS INFORMATION AND KEEPING THE STATE AWARE OF SITUATION.
AND I SPOKE WITH LANITA MCGEE, WHO IS OUR ACTING DISTRICT COORDINATOR RIGHT NOW.
UH, RIGHT BEFORE I CAME DOWN HERE, I RECEIVED A CALL FROM HER AND PREPARED AN UPDATE.
UH, THIS IS GAINED THE ATTENTION OF GOVERNOR AND HE REQUESTED AN UPDATE, SO I PREPARED THAT, SENT THAT THROUGH JUANITA TO THE STATE OPERATIONS CENTER, INTO THE GOVERNOR.
UM, THEY'RE STILL WORKING WITH US, TRYING TO DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO HELP US WITH THE SITUATION IN KEMP.
AND I WILL BE GOING DOWN THERE, HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES TO MEET, UH, JUANITA AND LOOK AT THE SITUATION IN KEMP AND CONTINUE WORKING TOWARDS, UH, HELPING THEM OUT UNTIL THEY CAN GET THEIR SITUATION RESOLVED.
AND IF Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, YOU'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STEVE? I THOUGHT WATER BE MORE VALUABLE.
STEVE, WE'VE GOT A 6,000 GALLON TANKER AND, AND A 2,500 GALLON WATER TRUCK FOR NON NON POTABLE WATER AVAILABLE HERE TO MEET YOU NEED NOW IF YOU NEED THE FUTURE.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND ITEM A IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING AND TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE APPOINTMENT OF DONNA GREG TO CALCULATE THE DETECTIVE TAX RAISE OF MCC COUNTY AND OTHER ENTITIES, UH, COLLECTED BY THE COUNTY TAX OFFICE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA BY COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER MANNING.
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OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, I HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM I INTENDED UP, UP TO DATE.WE HAD SOME HANDOUTS THIS MORNING.
THE, UH, WE JUST GOT THIS IN THE MAIL, UH, LAST WEEK, ACTUALLY, I THINK LAST FRIDAY.
YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE CITY OF LL CAME BEFORE US ASKING FOR, UH, APPROVAL, OUR BLESSINGS ON, UH, TRYING TO GET THE OLD, UH, CITY LAKE OR WHAT IT'S CALLED NOW, THE ELMO LAKE.
SOME PEOPLE STILL CALL IT NEW CITY LAKE.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT HAS, UH, CLEARED ANOTHER HURDLE THROUGH THE STATE, UH, OF TEXAS SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD.
AND, UH, SO THE, THE BOARD DID APPROVE THE PLANNING, UH, FOR THE APPLICATION, UH, FOR THAT SITE 87 A, WHICH IS PART OF THE CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED.
AND, UH, SO IT, YOU MIGHT NOTICE THE END OF THE FIRST SENTENCE, WHICH IS PRETTY TYPICAL, IS THAT PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT YOUR PROJECT WILL RECEIVE FUNDING THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT IT DOES CLEAR ANOTHER PURPOSE WHERE THE STATE, UH, SOIL, THE CONSERVATION WATER BOARD HAS, HAS APPROVED, OR CONSERVATION BOARD HAS APPROVED THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU BE AWARE OF THAT.
WE HAVE NO, NO MONEY IN THAT PROJECT, BUT IT IS, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THAT PROJECT MOVE FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS JEFF BROWN FROM, UH, OUR DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTION FIRM.
AND JEFF HAS BEEN COMING FORWARD, UH, THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS GIVING US AN UPDATE ON COLLECTIONS AND, UH, FINES, THE FEES.
AND WE'LL TURN THAT OVER TO YOU, SIR.
UH, I THINK EVERYONE'S GOT A COPY OF, BY THE WAY, BARBARA IN THE IT OFFICE.
IS SHE STILL HERE? I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO THANK BARBARA, 'CAUSE BARBARA'S PRINTED THIS A NICE, BEAUTIFUL COLOR FOR US.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THE, THE RED LINE AS 2010, THE BLUE LINE AS 2011.
UM, WE, UH, DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF AN INCREASE THIS PAST MONTH IN, IN JULY AS WE DID IN JUNE, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S STILL MUCH HIGHER THAN 2010.
IF YOU GO TO THE REPORT THAT, THAT I'VE DETAILED FOR YOU AND SUMMARIZE, UH, THE, THE BOTTOM LINE, UH, OF, OF THE WHOLE PROCESS IS THAT, UH, FOR THE FIRST SEVEN MONTHS OF THE YEAR, UH, JP COLLECTION WROTE $491,000.
UH, I'LL REMIND THE COURT THAT, UH, TWO THINGS, A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THIS.
ONE IS, UH, THAT, THAT THE COLLECTIONS, UH, IS UP $491,000, COMMISSIONER CLARK ABOUT $130,000.
THAT WHILE THE STATE KNEW THAT WAS COVERED.
I DID, I ANTICIPATED YOUR QUESTION.
UH, AND, AND, AND WHY DON'T YOU JUST FOR, UH, INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING PRESS AND ALL OF US FOR THAT MATTER, TELL US HOW THAT WORKS.
WE COLLECT MONEY, BUT THE STATE GETS THEIR, THEIR SHARE.
THEY GET A, THEY GET A PIECE OF CRIMINAL IN CRIMINAL CASES.
THERE'S COURT COSTS, THERE'S COURT COSTS THAT ARE PART OF, THAT'S A STATE FEE.
UH, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHY IT GOES TO TO TO BENEFIT, BUT I THINK IT GOES TO, SOME OF IT GOES TO HELP THE CRIMINAL INFORMATION SYSTEM IN THE STATE.
UM, SOME OF IT GOES, UH, IT'S, IT'S PART OF IT IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FEE THAT SOMEHOW ANOTHER WORKS ITS WAY BACK TO THE SHERIFF'S AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
IT OFFSETS THOSE KIND OF COSTS, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IN THE STATE FOR RECORD KEEPING, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT THE, UH, THE JP CLERKS ACTUALLY COLLECT THE COURT COSTS, AND THERE'S SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF IT, UH, WELL AS JAIL FEES AND OTHER THINGS.
I THINK THERE'S A LAW LIBRARY FEE THAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL DON'T FAMILIAR WITH FROM DEALING WITH THIS YEAR.
UH, THOSE, THOSE THINGS ARE ALL COMPRISED, UH, IN THE COURT COST WITH REGARD TO THE, TO, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL JP COURTS, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, JP, JP ONE HAS LAGGED BEHIND THE OTHERS ALMOST ALL YEAR THIS MONTH.
THEY WERE LESS THAN 10% AHEAD LAST MONTH.
SO THAT, SO THEY'RE REALLY STARTING TO CATCH UP AND, AND I'M REALLY HAPPY FOR THEM.
THEY'RE, THE STAFF OUT THERE IS DOING A GOOD JOB.
UH, JUDGE PERRY, UH, AND I HAD A LAW MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
HE, HE, UH, I CAN REPORT TO EVERYBODY.
HE, IN THE PAST HAS NOT BEEN THAT ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT MY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROCESS, BUT HE, HE'S VERY MUCH, UH, COOPERATING WITH ME AND THE STAFF IS AS WELL.
UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, JP TWO, UH, IS BROKEN ABOVE THE 30, 30% BARRIER.
I KNOW THAT JUDGE ASHCROFT WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UH, UH, JUDGE SMITHS COURT, UH, JP THREE CONTINUES TO, THEY'VE JUST DONE A GREAT JOB THIS YEAR.
I, I BET THERE'S VERY FEW ENTITIES IN THE STATE THAT ARE 81% AHEAD OF THEIR COLLECTIONS.
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DON'T THINK ANYBODY COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT EITHER.UH, JUST OVERALL, UH, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S, UH, LIEUTENANT BISHOP BACK THERE, CONSTABLE LAWS BACK THERE.
THEY'VE HAD A, THEY'VE HAD A GREAT DEAL TO DO WITH THIS.
I REMIND EVERYONE, UH, THE AUDIENCE IN PARTICULAR, UH, THERE WAS A MEETING, JUDGE WOOD'S OFFICE SECOND DAY.
YOU WERE ON THE JOB, I THINK JUDGE YEAH, JANUARY THE FOURTH OR FIFTH.
YEAH, IT WAS EARLY ON WEATHER AND THE, UH, AND EVERYBODY WAS TOGETHER THAT JPS, THE CONSTABLE WAS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UH, I WAS THE FLY ON THE WALL MYSELF AND, UH, EVERYBODY CAN, EVERYBODY COED TO, TO WORK TOGETHER AND DO A GOOD JOB AND TO TRY TO THINK WHAT THEY COULD TO INCREASE COLLECTIONS.
AND, AND THESE COLLECTIONS ARE, IT IS NOT THAT THEY'RE FALLING UPON ANYBODY.
UH, THESE ARE FEES AND FINES THAT HAVE BEEN ADJUDICATED.
AND SO TAKING SOME EFFORT, SOME WARRANTS AND, AND ROUND UP SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLICITY, UM, JUST SOME, SOME STICKTUITIVENESS HAS HELPED AND, UH, SORT OF DIFFERENCE.
DID WE, UH, WERE WE ABLE TO, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN WORK STILL GOING ON ON TRYING TO DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW MANY FINES AND FEES WE HAD.
YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT NUMBERS BOUNCED AROUND AND I KNOW THAT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
YES, JUDGE, I, I THINK PROBABLY THE BEST NUMBER WE HAVE IS SOMEWHERE IN PROBABLY IN THE EIGHT TO 10 MILLION RANGE PROBABLY WAS REALLY OUT THERE, UH, WHEN YOU, SO SOME OF THE, THE HIGHER NUMBERS PROBABLY RELATED BACK AS MUCH AS IT'S 10 AND 11 YEARS AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF UNREASONABLE COUNT, MAYBE MORE THAN FIVE OR SIX YEARS OLD, PROBABLY.
I BELIEVE MS. HUGHES INDICATED TO ME ONE DAY LAST WEEK THAT THERE ARE SHIFTING A LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE CASES OVER TO YOU, I BELIEVE YOU SAID YES.
THAT, UH, YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED BY NOW.
AND I, I I'M NOT GONNA AN EMAIL, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE RECEIVED THEM OR NOT, BUT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF FINES THAT ARE, OR FEES THAT ARE YES.
WE'LL GET FROM, UH, I KNOW THAT IT DOESN DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THE COUNTY MUCH, BUT WE HAVE BEGUN TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF TERRA AND I KNOW THEIR FIRST MEETINGS GO OUT TODAY.
WELL, AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN A TEAM EFFORT WITH EVERYBODY.
UH, CERTAINLY OUR CONSTABLES AND OTHERS HAVE PLAYED A HUGE PART IN THAT.
UH, OF COURSE THE COLLECTION DEPARTMENT NOW HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
THAT WAS A TRANSITION FAR US AS WELL.
SO LOOKS LIKE ALL THOSE EFFORTS ARE BEGINNING TO PAY DIVIDENDS AS FAR US, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.
AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT SHOWS STUFF, UH, IS REFLECTED, UH, A LARGE DEGREE IN WHERE WE ARE, AS ON THIS LATEST FINANCIAL UPTAKE WE JUST GAVE THEM.
WELL, SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JEFF COMPARED TO LAST YEAR COLLECTION? UH, WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU SAY WE UP THIS YEAR? ARE WE UP? YES, SIR.
UH, UH, THIRD LINE FROM THE BOTTOM ON THE SUMMARY SHEET, 46.7% HIGHER COMMISSIONER GASTON OF, IT'S A HECK OF AN INCREASE.
WELL, CONSIDERING WE REALLY DIDN'T GET IT OFF THE GROUND UNTIL WHAT, APRIL? MID, MID-MARCH, EARLY APRIL.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YEAH.
JEFF, WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE HUNDRED 30 THAT WAS WENT TO THE STATE, IS THAT KIND OF A CONSISTENT NUMBER WE CAN PROBABLY USE AS OUR ESTIMATE, 30% OF THE MONEY WE COLLECT GOES TO THE STATES.
WELL, UH, THAT'S PRETTY ROUGH.
I MEAN, PROBABLY A LITTLE, IT'S LESS, IT'S LESS THAN THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER THAT, THAT 130 PROBABLY IS, UH, ROUGHLY 10% BECAUSE THAT 130 IS OUT OF THE, UH, THE 1.5 MILLION TOTAL COLLECTIONS.
SO IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN 10%.
YEAH, I WAS USING, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK YOU GETTING ALL YOUR MONEY TO THE STATE COMMISSIONER.
OH, THE HUNDRED 30,000 WORTH THE TOTAL INCREASE, THE $130,000 WAS OUT THE TOTAL MILLION.
I DIDN'T MEAN IF I CONFUSED YOU.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE COUNTY THAT 80% OF WHAT WE COLLECTED WHEN STATES OR 85% THAT, THAT'S GOOD TO CLARIFY.
OKAY, ADAM NUMBER FOUR IS FROM OUR FIRE MARSHAL, UH, LARRY EWING TO DISCUSS THE, UH, EXTENDING THE COUNTYWIDE BURN VAN FOR 60 DAYS FROM AUGUST THE 19TH, 2011.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT.
NO, I'VE KIND OF CHANGED MY MIND THIS MORNING TO DO IT.
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BRIEF UP ON IT.WE DID HAVE THREE HIRE LAST WEEK THAT WERE DIFFICULT TO PUT OUT.
PROBABLY NOT LARGE IN SCOPE, BUT DIFFICULT BRUSH AND OUTLYING TERRITORY.
AND WE USED THE FORESTRY SERVICE ON TWO OF THOSE OCCASIONS.
FORTUNATELY ON ONE OF 'EM, WHEN THEY CAME IN, I REALLY KIND OF THOUGHT WE HAD JUMPED THE GUN ON ASKING 'EM, BUT WHILE THEY WERE OVER THERE ON THE SIDE WHERE I WAS, WE LOOKED UP THROUGH THE TREE LINE AND THE SECOND ONE WAS COMING TOWARDS US.
SO IT WAS NICE THAT THEY WERE THERE AT THE TIME WE EVER FIND OUT.
EVER FIND OUT WHAT STARTED? WELL, THE ORIGINAL FIRE OFF 25 78 ON THE INGHAM RANCH FIRE WAS CAUSED BY, UH, TRACTOR MOWING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE ONE WE WERE AT THAT LOCATION WHEN THE SECOND ONE OCCURRED, ORIGINATED ON 25 78.
I UNFORTUNATELY BELIEVE WE PROBABLY HAD SOMEONE OUT MESSING WITH US BECAUSE THE REASON I SAY THAT, WHEN WE WERE ON THAT FIRE TACKLING IT, I HAD A, SOMEONE STOPPED BY, I WAS WORKING TRAFFIC, HAD SOMEONE STOP BY AND, UH, TOLD ME REAL QUICKLY THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE BEHIND US.
SO WE SENT SOMEONE DOWN TO IT, VERY SMALL SPOT FIRE AND PUT IT OUT.
AND THEN ABOUT 20 MINUTES LATER, I LOOKED UP ON THE OTHER END TOWARDS 9 87 AND SAW SMOKE AGAIN FROM THAT DIRECTION.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT TAKES ABSOLUTELY, BASICALLY NOTHING TO START A FIRE.
SO, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD SOME THAT YOU JUST, YOU WONDER YOURSELF, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE SECOND HAD BEEN A SPARK OFF THE FIRST.
THAT ONE WAS NOT BECAUSE THE SECOND FIRE ACTUALLY WAS BURNING TOWARDS THE FIRST ONE.
SO WE'VE HAD THOSE, UH, WE STILL, OF COURSE, UNFORTUNATELY HAVING TO GO OUT AND ISSUE CITATIONS FOR BURN BAND VIOLATIONS.
I, I WOULD THINK PEOPLE WOULD REALLY JUST LOOK AROUND THEMSELVES AND REALIZE THAT EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND IT'S DANGEROUS, BUT WE'RE STILL HAVING TO DO THAT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, RELAY ONE THING ON THE SECOND FIRE THAT WE HAD ON 25 78.
I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THE CITY OF TERRELL.
THEY SENT OUT A TRACK LOADER OUT THERE WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT.
AND, UH, USE IT OUT THERE FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF TIME ALONG WITH FORESTRY SERVICE DOZER.
SO SINCE THAT'S IN YOUR PRECINCT, IF YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PASS THAT ALONG TO THE CITY OF MATERIAL, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY GRATEFUL AND TOLD US IF WE COULD USE IT AGAIN, ANYTIME IT WAS NEEDED AND THEY MADE IT AVAILABLE, THEY'D SEND IT TO US.
SO VERY APPRECIATIVE TO HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THERE.
BUT OF COURSE, BACK TO THE QUESTION IS, UH, YES, I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE GO AHEAD AND EXTEND BURN BAND 60 DAYS FROM THE AUGUST 19TH EXPIRATION DATE.
IF GOD SEES FIT TO GIVE US GREAT REINS IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, I'LL BE GLAD TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU TO DROP IT PLEASE.
SO JUDGE THE CONDITION THAT WE ARE IN HAVING, UH, DRAFT EVERYTHING I ALRIGHT, MR. JACKSON MAKES THAT MOTION, MR. SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHTY, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, FROM OUR AUDITOR.
PRESENT THE, UH, AUDIT COURT FOR MONTHLY JULY TO WHAT WE DO WITH THIS.
THIS WILL BE ON FILE IN THE JUDGE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.
AND, UH, IF ANY OF YOU CARE TO DROP BY AND LOOK AT IT OR PICK IT UP, REVIEW, UH, I GUESS WE CAN, IT SAYS TO PRESENT, I GUESS WE CAN ACCEPT IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKES A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY? I DON'T THINK SO.
UH, STEVE, ARE YOU STILL HERE TO, BEFORE YOU HEAD BACK DOWN TO KEMP TO DISCUSS ABOUT THE, UH, CITY'S READINESS INITIATIVE, UH, PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL
CAN'T GET RID OF HIM LIKE A BAD PENNY.
UH, THIS WOULD BE THE SEVENTH YEAR THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.
WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED SIX, SIX YEARS WITH THE CITY'S READINESS INITIATIVE.
THE, UH, FUNDS THIS YEAR ARE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE ARE 43,400 SOME ODD DOLLARS.
UH, THIS WILL GO TO SALARY FOR A CRI COORDINATOR AND ASSISTANT COORDINATOR, WHICH WE HAD THIS LAST YEAR.
UH, AND, UH, THIS WILL ALSO, THEY WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO ASSIST ME WITH OTHER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES ALONG WITH DOING THE CRI PROGRAM.
UM, AND, UH, COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO
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ASK THAT YOU RENEW THIS CONTRACT AND, UH, SO WE CAN GO ANOTHER YEAR.COULD, COULD WE USE THIS MONEY TO PAY YOUR SALARY? NOT ANYMORE.
WE DID LAST YEAR BECAUSE I STARTED AS THE CRI COORDINATOR PRIOR TO BECOMING THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
THEY ALLOWED IT FOR LAST YEAR, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT THIS YEAR.
AND WE, I'D ASKED YOU STEVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT AND HE TRIPLE CHECKED IT, I THINK.
SO THIS WOULD BE ADDING ANOTHER PERSON TO YOUR STAFF? YES, SIR.
UH, SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THE TWO GUYS THAT YOU GOT NOW.
I GOT MYSELF AND ONE PERSON NOW.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE ONE MORE.
AND THAT'S COVERED BY THE GRANT.
COVERED BY THE GRANT? NO, NO COST TO THE COUNTY.
WOULD, WOULD THAT BE COVERED EVERY YEAR BY, IF YOU GET A GRANT EVERY YEAR, THAT BECOMES UNDER, SIR, IF WE CONTINUE LIKE, LIKE THIS, WE WILL HAVE ABLE TO KEEP THOSE TWO PART-TIME PEOPLE.
AS LONG AS THE GRANT CONTINUES, WE GET THE POINT WHERE WE, WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE A PART-TIME PEOPLE.
NOW, HOPEFULLY BY THAT, THAT TIME THE BUDGET WILL BE RECOVER AND I CAN GET A SECOND FULL-TIME PERSON, BUT THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD.
UH, I COULD USE SOME HELP, BUT AS LONG AS I CAN GET HELP UNDER THIS GRANT, IT DOESN'T CROSS THE COUNTY ANYTHING I SEND DONE AWAY.
BUT THERE IS NOT REQUIREMENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO NO, THERE IS NO REPORT.
SO ARE THE POSITIONS, IS THERE ANY OTHER EXPENSES, HOW IT GOES TO THIS, THIS PERSONNEL BESIDES WHAT'S PAID FOR BY THIS? YES.
STEVE GAVE ME A BUDGET FOR, FOR THE GRANT.
UH, THE TWO PART-TIME PEOPLE TOTAL, LIKE 38,000.
AND THEN THEY'VE GOT THEIR, UH, PAYROLL TAXES.
3,900 AND A LITTLE BIT OF MILEAGE AND YEAH.
STUFF FOR, FOR TRAINING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S A, UH, A ZERO IMPACT ON YES.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO STEVE? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTION.
MAKE THAT MOTION TO, UH, PROOF OF CONTRACT.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WITH ANYBODY? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS SEVEN TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPOINTING, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ROWDEN AND COMMISSIONER JACKSON ALONG WITH DICK MURPHY, NICK MILLER, GEORGE YA AND JACKSON SEBASTIAN TO A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND REPORT, UH, AWARD OF AN RFQ FOR THE, UH, DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTION SERVICES.
AND JACK HAS BEEN
YOU WANT GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT? WELL, THAT, THAT, UH, RFQ IS CURRENTLY OUT AND THE LINCOLN CLOSES, I BELIEVE IT IS WEEK, THURSDAY, THE 18TH.
AND, UH, THIS IS A RECOMMENDED, UH, COMMITTEE LIST.
I WELCOME ANY ADDITIONS OR RELATIONS.
YOU GENTLEMEN HAVE THOSE, ARE YOU BEGINNING TO GET SOME INTEREST IN THIS? I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 15 FOLKS THAT INQUIRE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL WE HAD MAILED OUT OR EMAILED THOSE OUT.
NOT SURE HOW MANY WILL RESPOND, BUT ROUGHLY ABOUT 15.
I THINK HE'S GOT PRETTY GOOD, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD OF SELECTION OF PEOPLE TO REVIEW ALL THAT.
SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT THOSE LISTED.
COMMISSIONER, UM, CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECONDS AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, THE ONLY THING I MIGHT ADD, UH, I MAY SERVE AS KIND OF AN EX MEMBER ON BOTH ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT JUST TO BE THERE.
NOT THAT I'LL BE A VOTING MEMBER, BUT, UH, I DON'T WHETHER THIS GROUP WILL PROBABLY JUST COME TO A CONSENSUS.
OH, THE EACH, EACH MEMBER WILL VOTE.
I'LL JUST BE KIND OF A THERE OBSERVING THIS, THESE TWO ITEMS ARE CERTAINLY VERY IMPORTANT TO FINANCIAL WELLBEING OF OUR COUNTY.
YOU, YOU COULD BE A VOTING MEMBER IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO BE HERE OR NOT.
I DON'T, I MEAN, I'M GLAD TO DO THAT.
I JUST, I DID MENTION THAT TO JACK WHENEVER WE, UH, TALKED.
AN OFFICIAL MEMBER BROUGHT THAT, THAT'S NOT A FORUM COMMISSIONER ON, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
IF WE HAVE A FORUM ON THE COURT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO POST IT AS A COMMISSIONER.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE OTHER REASON, WHICH
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MEAN I PROBABLY COULDN'T EVEN BE THERE AS A FLY ON BALL.SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE OTHER THINKING BEHIND THIS.
DO YOU BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER ROUND, WOULD HE BE ABLE TO DO THAT? YEAH, I THINK HE WILL BE BACK.
HE, UH, UH, THAT'S HIS PLANS AT LEAST.
UH, WHAT WE MIGHT DO ON THIS ONE IS SUBSTITUTE ME AS A MEMBER, UH, IN CASE COMMISSIONER ROUND IS NOT ABLE TO PERFORM WHENEVER WE GET THESE BACK IN.
'CAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY, NOT A QUICK TURNAROUND, BUT IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA NEED TO ACT ON FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO IF THE COMMISSIONER ROWING IS NOT ABLE, THEN YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE.
WOULD YOU INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR THAT IS, THAT'S PART OF MY MOTION.
I'M NOT SURE THIS IS PARLIAMENT ENTRY.
BUT ANYWAYS, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM A IS TO DISCUSS ON APPOINTING RAY CLARK, TOM MANNING, PATRICIA ASHCROFT, MIKE SMITH, GEORGE YARD, JACK S AND LAURA HUGHES TO A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND AWARD OF RFQ NUMBER 11 DASH THREE COLLECTION SERVICES FOR COUNTY COURTS FINES AND FEES.
JUDGE, THIS IS A SUMMARY THING.
WE'VE HAD ABOUT THE SAME INQUIRIES SEEING PEOPLE WELL AND, UH, HOPE TO HAVE SOME OF THE, UH, QUESTION ANSWERED HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS FOR BOTH THESE DOCUMENTS.
AND IT CLOSES ALSO ON AUGUST THE EIGHTH.
UM, ON, ON BOTH THESE, THE COMMITTEES, UM, ARE ADVISORY, IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT, THEIR DECISION IS NOT GOING TO BE BINDING ON THE COURT COURT.
SO CONCEIVABLY THEY COULD, THEY WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
IT WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE COURT COULD DO WHATEVER IT WANTS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL, THERE'S THINGS OUT.
EVERYBODY'LL GET A CHANCE TO READ EACH DOCUMENT AND THEN WE'LL GRADE IT OUT.
AND NOT TO COMPLICATE, BUT WAS POINTED OUT ONE TIME YOU ALSO, UH, WILL FUNCTION IN, IN, IN YOUR CAPACITY AND YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMITTEE.
WELL, I'M NOT SAYING YOU WANT TO, BUT I'M SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE YOU SPEAKING IF THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE ON THE PANEL, I ALREADY CHOOSE NOT TO VOTE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ON, I WILL VOTE, BUT IT'LL ACTUALLY BE GRADED OUT.
ONE PERSON WILL NOT HAVE ANY MORE SAY THAN THAN THE NEXT, BUT YOU'LL, OKAY.
UH, TABULATE THAT BASED ON EVERY EVERYONE'S VOTE.
I THINK THERE'S ABOUT FOUR CRITERIA THAT ARE, UH, ON THE BID.
NOW IS, IS THAT A PROBLEM? IF YOU HAVE A COMMISSIONER ON THERE THAT'S, UH, EVALUATING THAT, DO YOU SEE A PROBLEM? I DON'T BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A QUORUM ON EITHER OF THESE COMMITTEES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NON-BINDING, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT BE RECEIVED BY THE COURT SUBJECT TO COURT.
I BE WE THOSE? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, UH, JACK, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND COVER THE ITEM.
NOW, I BELIEVE YOU WANNA TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON, UH, CONTRACTING WITH GROUNDS RIVER MARRIOTT COMPANY FOR BROOK BOOK PRESERVATION, RECREATION AND RECREATION.
I DIDN'T THINK I'D BE VERY GOOD RECREATION.
JIM, IF YOU REMEMBER, UH, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, WE, UH, APPROVED A INTERLOCK AGREEMENT WITH ROSARIA COUNTY.
I JUST WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO COURT BECAUSE WE HAVE A STANDING RULE THAT, UH, THE EXPENSE EXCEED 15,000 WOULD GRANT IT FOR COURT APPROVAL.
UH, THE ESTIMATE THIS TIME LOOKS LIKE THE, UH, FOR BOTH OF THE BOOKS, WE HAVE A ESTIMATE OF 20,536 FOR THE BOOK PRESERVATION AND 17,600 FOR INDEXING WITH A, WITH A TOTAL AT 38,000
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1 36.THAT, THAT IS AN ESTIMATE THAT OFFICER MAY ADD BOOKS TO THAT ACCOUNT OR TAKE SOME OFF SO THAT THE ESTIMATE 38,000 1 36.
AND THAT'S PAID OUT RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND RECORDS OUR ACCOUNT TO THE COUNTY CLERK.
IN, IN ADDITION, WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING FOLKS FOR 47,000.
SO IT'S ALMOST THOUSAND THAT WILL BE ON RECORDS ARCHIVE, RECORDS MANAGEMENT TO GET THOSE BOOKS.
THOUSAND, IT'S THOUSAND? I DON'T RECALL.
YES, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO TWO.
IS THERE ANY OF THAT FUNDING COULD BE USED TO PAY SOME SUPPORT ON SOME SALARIES, CLERK SALARY? THE, UH, IF YOU CAN, YOU CAN PAY SALARIES OUT OF THAT FUND, BUT THEY NEED TO SPECIFICALLY BE DOING PRESERVATION WORK.
AND I DO HAVE ONE SLOTTED FOR NEXT YEAR.
OH, YOU'VE GOT ONE THAT YOU'RE GONNA PAY OUT IT ALREADY FOR THAT WE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, NINE FURTHER OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSS? I'M READY FOR A MOTION TO PROVE WHATEVER KIND OF MOTION YOU WANNA MAKE.
JUDGE, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION APPEAL.
WELL, I THINK IT'S GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO EXCEED 15 UP TO THAT.
I THINK WE JUST HAD TO GET THAT IN THERE BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO EXCEED.
SO I BELIEVE THE WHOLE I SECOND IT, I GUESS HESITATE.
ARE WE STILL NEED TO READ SOME OF THAT OR IS THERE, THERE'S SOME HESITATION ON THE MOTION.
BUT I GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION DONE.
UH, YOU THINK GOING BE UP TO ABOUT 90,000? WELL, AND THE PURPOSE OF IT ON THE AGENDA, IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE, IT'S GOING TO EXCEED 15,000, WHICH REQUIRES US TO APPROVE ANYTHING ABOVE 15,000.
BUT JUST FROM THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD TODAY BASED ON WHAT MS. HUGHES AND SAID, IT APPEARS IT'S GONNA BE CLOSE TO ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT WE, I MAKE THE MOTION GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THAT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JACKSON TO APPROVE, UH, THIS, UH, IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR BRAZORIA COUNTY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU JUDGE.
BEFORE YOU, UH, SIT DOWN, COULD YOU, UH, GIVE US KIND OF AN UPDATE? I, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DOING LOTS OF LOTS OF RQS AND R FP THESE DAYS, RIGHT? AND, UH, YOU WANNA GIVE US AN UPDATE? I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE STILL HAVE OUT THERE IS THE, UH, RFP FOR ALL THE OTHER INSURANCE PRODUCTS THERE, WORKERS' COMP AND ALL THAT.
YOU WANNA GIVE THE COURT A, A REAL QUICK UPDATE ON THAT? WELL, I'M GATHERING INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, AS TIME PERMITS.
UH, I THINK I MAY EVEN CHOOSE TO PUT ONE OUT, UH, FOR THE WORKERS' COMP FIRST.
SOMETIMES THEY SEPARATE THOSE ITEMS, SO WORKERS' COMP IS A HUGE PART.
AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN GOOD ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS ON THESE LAST TWO RFP AND WE ALSO HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, LAST WEEK, LAST FRIDAY.
UH, SO, UH, HOPE TO GET THAT OUT.
UH, THE FIRST PART, WORK COMP MAYBE THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK.
AND THE OTHER THINGS WOULD FOLLOW OFF PRETTY QUICK.
AND I, AND AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH ALL THESE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING, IF I WOULD OFFER ANY HELP THAT MY OFFICE CAN GIVE AND, AND HELP GET THAT OUT IF YOU NEED THAT.
AND, UH, I THINK THE BIGGEST QUESTION YOU HAVE IS DURING THE PROCESS, THEY'RE GONNA BE ALL KIND OF QUESTIONS WE'RE GONNA HAVE FROM THE VENDORS SUPPORT.
WELL, WE'LL ALL NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE FOR THOSE ANSWERS, SO WE MAY NEED TO NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT AS HAL AND I WERE TALKING, THIS, THIS
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IS A PART OF OUR, OUR RUN NEW BUDGET PROCESS AND WE'VE STILL GOT PLENTY OF TIME.I MEAN, IT'S AUGUST THE, WHATEVER TODAY IS AUGUST THE EIGHTH, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG BOTH WILL HAVE TO BE ON THE STREET, UH, SO TO SPEAK.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY SOMETIME AROUND THE FIRST WEEK IN SEPTEMBER.
WE'RE ALSO, UH, THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR RP OF THIS WEEK.
IT, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S IT'S, WE ADVERTISED THIS THURSDAY.
SO I'VE BEEN KEEPING UP THE ADVERTISEMENTS IN THE NEWSPAPERS, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR, WE JUST GOT A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS ALL HAPPENING AT ONE TIME, WINDING UP HERE.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING NECESSARILY.
IT CREATES LOTS OF WORK, LOTS OF, UH, PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY ON KIND OF A TWO PERSON OFFICE.
SO IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP THAN I'M, WE CERTAINLY WANT DON'T I APPRECIATE THAT.
I'M GLAD YOU WERE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL.
LAST MONTH WE ASKED, OR LAST TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE MET, WE ACTUALLY HAD THIS ITEM NUMBER 10 ON THE AGENDA AND WE VOTED TO APPROVE IT.
WE WERE ABOUT A WEEK EARLY I THINK.
ALL THIS DOES WE DID A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON, UH, ORDERING A LOCAL OPTION ELECTION TO LEGALIZE LEGAL SALE TO BEER, WINE FOR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION ON THE, WITHIN THE INCORPORATED CITY OF CORN.
AND AGAIN, WE APPROVED THIS LAST MONTH, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE EARLY, UH, FOR LEGAL REASONS.
SO, UH, I MADE THE MOTION LAST MONTH TO, TO APPROVE THAT AND I'LL MAKE IT AGAIN OR TWO WEEKS AGO I'LL MAKE IT AGAIN.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE TO HONOR THIS OBJECT BY HOPEFULLY THIS TIME, THIS MOTION IS STICK.
WE WANT TO DO IT A THIRD TIME.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A CHILD WELFARE CONTRACT NON-FINANCIAL WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND DESIGNATING THE COUNTY JUDGE AS THE CONTRACT SIGNATURE.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE SAME CONTRACT THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, WITH THE STATE.
AND, UH, THIS, UH, SETS UP THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD THAT WE, UH, HAVE APPOINTED IN THE COUNTY AND AS ALSO AS A PART OF OUR, UH, BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE, UH, GO THROUGH AS WELL.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WE HAVE, HAVE WE BEEN APPOINTED MEMBERS ON BEFORE? DON'T, I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND, BUT I DUNNO WHETHER WE HAVE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU THINK WE NEED TO CHECK OUT.
WELL, THEY'VE GOT TERMS ON, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN THIS PART, THE FIRST TIME I'VE ACTUALLY READ IT.
BUT IT SAYS THEY CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, ROTATING THE TERMS AND THEY'RE APPOINTED, UH, THREE YEAR TERM, TWO YEAR TERMS. INITIALLY TWO FIVE NEW MEMBERS WILL BE APPOINTED IN SUCCESSIVE YEARS.
DOES ANYONE HERE FROM THE ORGANIZATION LET'S ASKED US TO APPROVE THIS? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY DID, SO YEAH, WE DID.
WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THIS TODAY.
BUT I'M JUST, FOR US TO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE PART OF OUR DUTIES WERE, IS TO APPOINT THIS BOARD AND KEEP IT APPOINTED.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT, SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO, BUT I THINK SHE JUST SAID DO THEY TERMS YOU CAN JUST KEEP YOU ONE SAME ONE COULD, YEAH, VERY WELL COULD BE DOING THAT AWAY.
OBJECT, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO PROVE THE CONTRACT, BUT I'D LIKE WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS AND TERMS OUT.
SO DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMAL MOTION? YES.
COMMISSIONER CLARK, UH, MOVES THAT WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT, UH, WITH THE, UH, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES.
DO WE HAVE SECOND COMMISSIONER SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON, ON THAT.MAKE SURE WE KNOW ITEM NUMBER.
WELL, WE JUST GOT ANOTHER UPDATED, UH, CONTRACT FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF CEDAR CREEK LAKE WHERE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IN OUR BUDGET HEARINGS, BUT, OR OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS THAT WE'VE HAD.
AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE NEW PROVIDED CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THEM.
TOM MANNING, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING HAS SPENT HOURS WORKING ON THIS TRYING TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE.
AND I DID MEET WITH THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, HUMANE SOCIETY THIS MORNING.
I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY.
I BELIEVE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY THERE.
THEY, I, I BELIEVE SHE SAID THERE WOULD NOT BE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE, BUT THEY HAVE DROPPED OUR COST.
UH, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE DIRECTOR LAST WEEK, AND I KNOW TOM HAS, HAS SPENT, UH, QUITE A BIT OF TIME VISITING WITH THEM.
THEY DID DROP OUR CALLS FROM 80,000 TO 70,000 FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
AND WE'RE KIND OF TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROCESS HERE AND WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A PLACE TO, UH, TO TAKE OUR DOGS AND ANIMALS AND ALL KINDS OF, UH, SMALL ANIMALS.
UH, BUT I, I THINK THIS, UH, UH, PART OF THE, PART OF THE AGREEMENT CALLS THAT, UH, THEY WILL PROVIDE US A MONTHLY UPDATE ON THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT ARE BEING, UH, BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER FROM COFFIN COUNTY, NOT ONLY BY OUR DEPUTIES OR BY OUR, UH, UH, OUR PEOPLE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, BUT ALSO, UH, WE HAVE PEOPLE AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT JUST TAKE ANIMALS THERE TO THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY FOUND OR THAT THEY NO LONGER WANT.
AND, UH, THEY TELL ME, AND TOM, YOU JUMP IN HERE AS WELL, THEY TELL ME THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT DO TAKE THEIR ANIMALS THERE FOR, UH, TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY.
SO DO YOU WANT TO, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? WELL, JUDGE, UH, THESE FOLKS, I'VE BEEN DOWN VISITED THERE, FACILIT, THAT NEW AND OAK FACILITY.
THEY PROVIDE A VERY VALUABLE SERVICE FOR THE, UH, PEOPLE OF, OF THE, UH, COFFMAN COUNTY AND ALSO HENDERSON COUNTY.
THEY HAVE A TREMENDOUS JOB AHEAD OF 'EM, JUST LIKE WE DO.
UH, I FELT THAT, THAT THE, UH, NUMBERS, UH, NEED LOOKING AT A LITTLE CLOSER, MORE CLOSELY, UM, I WILL BE ON TOP OF THESE REPORTS.
I'LL HAVE 'EM GENERATE A REPORT ONCE A MONTH SO I CAN GET A HANDLE ON THIS THING.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, THE PET OWNING PUBLIC TO PLEASE BE A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER AND HAVE YOUR PET SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND DON'T JUST TURN 'EM OUT, UH, IN THE COUNTY OR IN THE CITIES BECAUSE THAT COST THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.
AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, THAT THE $70,000 FIGURE PER YEAR IS WHAT PROVES IT.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGED THE PUBLIC TO BE A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER.
IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 'EM, IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER, PLEASE DON'T HAVE 'EM.
AND, UH, BUT ANYWAY, WE WILL BE, UH, KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THIS AND UH, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH A PLAN WITH THE REST OF THESE CITIES TO SEE IF WE CAN'T, UH, UH, FIND A MORE EFFICIENT WAY OF DEALING WITH THESE PETS.
DID WE, UH, DID WE OWN THE PRICE OF THESE ANIMALS? ANIMALS THAT WE WITH? OH, WE AIN'T LYING WITH THE CITIES.
WE ARE, WE'RE WE'RE PAYING A PRINT BRAND.
YES, WE'RE PAYING PRINT, BUT WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION AT THIS POINT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID POINT OUT TO ME THIS MORNING, AND I DIDN'T, I DON'T HAVE A CARD FROM YOU, THE NEW PRESIDENT, SHE'S JUST BEEN PRESIDENT OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, I THINK.
I THINK THEIR COMPLETE BOARD HAS CHANGED.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS SHE DID ASSURE ME, AND I THINK THEY ASSURED YOU AS WELL, IS, IS THAT THEY DO HAVE A NEW BUILDING, A PRETTY NICE SIZE YES.
UH, BUT SHE ASSURED ME THAT NONE OF THE MONEY THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO THEM GOES TOWARD OR WENT TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT, UH, OF THAT FACILITY.
SO MOST OF I, OUR MONEY'S GONE TOWARDS DAYTO DAY OPERATION.
AND IT'S A PRETTY MAJOR OPERATION.
WHEN I VISITED DOWN THERE TWO WEEKS AGO, THEY WERE AT CAPACITY.
OTHER WORDS, EVERY PEN THEY HAD WAS FULL IN THE OLD, UH, FACILITY AND THE
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NEW FACILITY.AND THEY WERE BUSY, BUSY, BUSY.
AND THEY NEED MORE VOLUNTEERS DOWN THERE.
AND UH, IT'S, IT IS AMAZING TO SEE HOW MANY DOGS AND CATS ARE TURNED LOOSE IN THE COUNTY THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO, THAT'S WHY OUR OFFICERS STAY SO BUSY PICKING UP, PICKING 'EM UP, CARRYING 'EM DOWN.
BUT WE DO, UH, BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, WE DO PAY A MORE BRAND THAN HE ABSOLUTELY.
I FEEL LIKE CHANGING THE FUTURE AND I THINK THE CITIES AND, UH, JACK, GO AHEAD.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, JUDGE, OFFICER, GREAT NEEDS FOR THIS SERVICE, BUT I, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO, IF THAT CONTRACT IS WRITTEN IN, IN A FORM WHERE IT'S A, UH, A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT OR, UH, I TALKED TO COUNSEL THIS MORNING WHETHER KNOW THERE'S SOME SOME KIND PROVISION, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT WASN'T BID OUT, IT'S OVER, HADN'T BEEN OUT, BID OUT FOR YEARS, I THINK.
AND UH, I JUST WANNA COVER THE COUNTY THAT WE MAY NEED TO COME BACK EITHER DECLARE SOLE SOURCE OR A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.
I WANT GET COUNCIL'S OPINION ON THAT.
WE'VE LOOKED AT MORE OF THE COST OF IT THAN ANYTHING.
HOW MUCH IS THE COST? 70,000 AND IT'S, IT'S BEEN, I DON'T EVEN THINK WE HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT WITH THEM LAST YEAR.
I'M PRETTY PRETTY SURE WE DID.
IT'S BEEN BEEN JUST ONE OF THOSE AREAS OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE JUST IGNORED, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED.
WE'VE PRETTY MUCH CALLED AROUND AND TRIED TO FIND ANOTHER SOLUTION TO THIS AND I CAN'T FIND YOU PROBABLY CAN, BUT I, NO, I UNDERSTAND.
THERE'S PROBABLY NOT ANOTHER SOLUTION.
JUST I THINK'S WORTH, UH, BEING THE LAW REQUIREMENT.
IT MAY EITHER NEED TO BE, THIS MAY BE A SOLE SOURCE OF CONSIDERATION 'CAUSE YES.
UH, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM DOING THE RESCUE COMPANY GOOD ASS PCA IS SEPARATE FROM HUMAN MAIN SOCIETY AND I ANOTHER FACILITY IN THE COUNTY THAT OFFERS THE, THE LOCATION THAT THIS ONE DOES.
HAR ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY COMMISSION? NO, SIR.
I MEAN, SO BY DEFAULT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GET IN WITHOUT A COMPETITIVE PURCHASE.
IS IT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT CONCERNS YOU? YES, SIR.
DO YOU WANT TO, YOU, YOU SUGGEST PERHAPS YOU AND JOHN, PERHAPS WE SHOULD TABLE THIS TILL THE NEXT MEETING? I I JUST THINK YES, SIR.
JUST WE NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S A, A, UH, NAVY SOURCE, A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT OR, OR A PERSONAL SERVICE CONTRACT OR SO SOURCE ON WHETHER IS THERE NOT ANOTHER, UH, CITY OF TAR DID NOT HAVE A ANIMAL SHELTER.
WELL, I CALLED CITY OF CARROLL TO SEE IF WE COULD DO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HIM.
AND HE, I MEAN THEIR, THEIR, THEIR FACILITY IS FULL ALL THE TIME.
THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A, IN A COUNTYWIDE ANIMAL CONTROL PROJECT.
AND, UH, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE, COULD BE DONE ON A COUNTYWIDE BASIS.
AND, UH, UH, SO THERE, EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION.
I THINK FORNEY, UH, HAS PERHAPS MONEY FOR A NEW FACILITY.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, I DON'T, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT STAGE YOU'RE IN, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PURSUING THAT.
BUT THEY'VE SET UP A COMMITTEE TO, THEY'VE SET ASIDE SOME MONEY FOR THAT.
UH, I THINK MAYBANK AND KIM ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH YES, THEY DO.
SO I'M SURE THEY, WE GOT SOMETHING GOING AS FAR AS BUILDING A COUNTYWIDE SHELTER.
I'M SURE THAT THEY BE WILLING, THIS GROUP HAS GREAT INTEREST IN CONTINUING A RELATIONSHIP WITH US, BUT, UH, AND WE DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT AN ADVERSARIAL THING, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, IT'S ALL DOLLARS.
IT'S DOLLARS AND IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
SO, BUT I THINK EVERY ENTITY HAS THE SAME PROBLEM.
EVEN THE CITY OF VILLE, I THINK, UH, I THINK THEY'RE INTERESTED.
SO I KEEP, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING BUT NOBODY WANTS TO DO, IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE, SO, WELL I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND.
I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW A RICH THING AT ALL ABOUT HIM.
JUST, I THINK THAT ANYTIME YOU SPEND OVER $50,000, YOU NEED TO MAYBE COME TO COURT, DECLARE THE EXEMPT BASED ON OF THAT NATURE.
JOHN, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT JOHN, WE'VE GOT THIS NEW CONTRACT.
WE'LL GET THAT TOO AND WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT TIME.
WE DO NEED PROBABLY TO ACT ON THAT AND AT LEAST WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT WE CAN PLUG INTO THE BUDGET.
TEMPORARY PROPOSED BUDGET, SO, OKAY.
I MOVE MOTION TO TAKE SECOND, SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER ME AND WITH THE IDEA THAT THE, UH, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL WILL REVIEW, UH, THIS CONTRACT.
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CAROL STILL OUT THERE IN THE HALLWAY.I THINK SHE'S GONNA MAKE, GIVE US AN UPDATE ON GARY.
WE GOT THUMBS UP FROM, THUMBS UP FROM, UH, JERRY'S, UH, SECRETARY THAT EVERYTHING WENT.
NUMBER 13 IS TO Y'ALL TAKE A BREAK BEFORE WE UH, DO THIS.
YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THESE THEN TAKE A BREAK BEFORE WE DO THE BUDGET UPDATE.
ALRIGHT, NUMBER 13, DISCUSS AND ACT ON LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
JUDGE THE COURT'S PERMISSION AS WE APPROACH SEPTEMBER 30TH.
THERE'LL BE A WHOLE LOT OF VERY SMALL LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
JUST CLEAN UP YOUR ENDS UP WITH Y'ALL'S PERMISSION.
I'LL JUST READ THE ONES OVER A THOUSAND BUCKS.
UNDER GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WE'RE MOVING 7,000 IN LIABILITY INSURANCE COSTS AND COPIER FOR 5,000 FOR COST 2000 SHERIFF'S AREA WITH THE $2,800 OUT PARTS AND REPAIRS FOR LEGAL NOTICES.
1500 MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING.
A THOUSAND POSTAGE 300 IN THE JAIL.
WE'RE MOVING 30,500 OUT SALARY OF MEDICAL OFFICERS SINCE THEY WENT AWAY TO UH, GROCERIES OF 30,000 IN OFFICE SUPPLIES OF 500.
OBVIOUSLY OUR HEALTH POPULATION IS A PRIEST AND OUR FOOD COSTS HAVE GONE UP, UH, UNDER CHARITY'S POINT OF RELIEF, WE'RE MOVING 3000 FROM CPS ATTORNEYS TO 86 DISTRICT THAT WAS THERE.
I GOT 8,000 FROM HOUSE AND 2000 FOR SECURITY EQUIPMENT.
DID WE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE COMMON, NO, I DON'T.
BUT THE FIGURES YOU'RE GIVING US ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT Y'ALL NEED FOR COCAINE.
UH, INCREASING THEIR TRAVEL COSTS.
4,678 OUT OF OFFICE SUPPLIES, COMPUTER COSTS, TRAINING, EDUCATION CONFERENCES AND EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS.
UNDER TRANSFERS, WE'RE MOVING 10,000 FROM GENERAL RIGHT OF WAY INTO TRANSFER SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATIONS AND THE HEALTHCARE.
WE MOVE AN 8,434 BETWEEN SOME SALARY CATEGORIES, WHICH RELATES TO, UH, THE COST PAID AT, AT THE SEVERANCE OF THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR OF DEFENSE.
UH, SHE HAD SOME TIME ACCUMULATED THAT THAT HAD TO BE PAID OUT, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THE BUDGET, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S NO SYSTEM AT THIS POINT, DOESN'T COST A BUDGET.
INCREASE UTILITIES A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN SUPPLIES.
INCREASE ANNUAL CLEANUP, 3000 OUTTA CONTRACT LABOR ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE.
INCREASED GAS AND OIL, 18,000 OUT OF LEASE PAYMENTS AND IN PROBATION INCREASED $2,000 IN TRANSPORTATION OUT OF OPERATING EXPENSES.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE STATION, RECOGNIZING AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 IN REVENUE AND BUDGETING THAT FOR HOLLY COSTS AND CONFERENCE THAT, ALL OF THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER? A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER IS PRESENTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR, SO MAY COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OR OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK AND DO AN UPDATE ON OUR BUDGET PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR
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VERSUS ZERO.YEAH, THEY TOLD ME TWO MONTHS OF MY RIB TO MAKE SURE BACK.
SO IT'S BEEN THREE MONTHS NOW.
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BUILDING.ONE EXTRA POSITION, BUT I DIDN'T GET THAT.
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TWO WEEKS? YES, THEY GET PRETTY GOOD.I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF AUTOMATE IT A LITTLE BIT SO THAT BOUNCE AROUND, STICK AROUND HER.
IS THAT, DID THEY LIVE THERE? THAT'S WHY SHE MOVED.
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WE HAD A CHANCE NOW TO REVIEW ALL THE BILLS AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACT ON THE CLAIMS FOR PAPER.SO MAY MR. JACKSON MAKES SUCH MOTION AND COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS TO, UH, REVIEW THE, UH, BUDGET, PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE TABLE OUT HERE ON THE, AFTER WE GET THROUGH WITH THE BREAKS.
SO WE'LL RECONVENE ABOUT 10 MINUTES DOWN AT THE TABLE.
NEW BUDGET, PROPOSED BUDGET FROM THE 1130.
AND RATHER THAN CALLING A SEPARATE WORK, UH, STUDY OR A WORKSHOP, I THOUGHT WE'D JUST KIND OF GIVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATE AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
AND THE NEW BUDGET YOU HAVE THAT I JUST PUT ON THE TABLE IS HOT OFF THE PRESS.
HAL HAS WORKED, UH, DOING A LOT OF TIME THIS WEEKEND GETTING THESE FRESH NUMBERS TO US, AND THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE HOT OFF THE PRESS.
BUT BEFORE WE LOOK AT THOSE, UH, BRIAN BEAVERS FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SENT ME OVER THE LATEST INFORMATION ON WHAT WE'RE, UH, RECEIVING FROM THE TWO COUNTIES THAT PRIMARILY ARE SENDING PRISONERS TO US.
WE DO OCCASIONALLY PICK UP ONE OR TWO FROM VAN COUNTY, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYBODY FROM VAN COUNTY.
BUT IN JUNE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE BILLED HUNT COUNTY $891 AND THEN WE BILLED SMITH COUNTY FOR 50,016 FOR A TOTAL OF 51,000 5 0 1.
SO, AND THEY PAID THAT, I BELIEVE WE GOT THE CHECK IN THE MAIL.
AND SO JULY, WHICH THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, MONTH, WE BILL HUNT COUNTY FOR 1,056 IN SMITH COUNTY FOR 80,000, THREE 20 FOR A TOTAL OF 80 1003 76.
SO, UH, THESE NEW BUDGET FIGURES BASED ON THIS, AND THE SHERIFF AND CHIEF BEAVERS HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SMITH COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE RECEIVING FROM THEM IS, CAN WE, WHAT CAN WE BASE OUR NUMBERS ON FOR NEXT YEAR? AND THEY'VE RECEIVED AN ASSURANCE FROM THEM THAT THESE NUMBERS SHOULD CONTINUE ABOUT LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE A COUPLE OF YEARS AWAY FROM, UH, GETTING INTO THEIR NEW FACILITY OR THEIR REFURB.
I THINK PART OF IT'S NEW AND SOME OF IT'S, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, REFURBISHED.
AND SO, UH, BUT THESE ARE FAIRLY ACCURATE.
WELL, WE BELIEVE THESE ARE GOOD NUMBERS.
ANYBODY QUOTE TWO IN MAY BE, BUT I HAVEN'T, THEY'VE NOT MENTIONED THAT CHIEF BEAVERS OR THE SHERIFF BE ONE.
BUT, UH, TRANSPORTATION, IT'S NOT SO MUCH COST.
I THINK WE'VE MADE A GOOD DEAL TOO, WHAT WE'RE CHARGING, BUT IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN HOUR DRIVE, HOUR 15, SO, SO ANYWAY, I WANTED YOU TO, TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
AND THEN, UH, AT THE LAST WORKSHOP WE HAD, WE TALKED ABOUT SENDING OUT, UH, A SURVEY TO, UH, THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COUNTY, INCLUDING ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND EMPLOYEES.
AND I DON'T THINK THIS CAME BACK AT AS ANY GREAT SURPRISE, BUT IT DID KIND OF GIVE US A HEAD HEADS UP ON WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS SO, UH, DID PROVIDE US WITH.
AND WE HAD A TOTAL RETURN OF 391 VOTES, WHICH PRETTY GOOD.
I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD RETURN AND, RIGHT.
I MEAN THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD RETURN OUT OF, UH, OUT OF TOTAL.
BUT WE HAD, OUT OF THE TOTAL VOTES, WE HAD, UH, OUR PEOPLE EXPRESSING THEIR OPINION, AND THIS IS NOT BINDING ON ANYBODY, IT'S JUST FIND OUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
EVERYBODY, UH, VOTED THAT 348 THAT VOTED FOR THE, UH, DOING AWAY WITH THE FURLOUGH DAYS AND, UH, INCREASING THE SALARIES BACK UP TO 4.4%.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HAD EXPECTED.
BUT WE ALSO HAD, UH, 43 EMPLOYEES AND, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WELL, I DON'T THINK, I THINK ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WENT FAR THE 4.4%, BUT, UH, WE HAD 43 THAT SAID THEY COULD LIVE WITH A 2.2% INCREASE IN SIX HOLIDAYS OR, YOU KNOW, OR EVEN WE DIDN'T ASK THIS, BUT YOU COULD DO SOME VARIATION OF THAT.
WE HAD ONE THAT I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT FIND INTERESTING THAT SAID, AND I LOOKED AT THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY SAID, NOT ONLY DID THEY WANT THE 4.4% BACK, BUT THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE 12 POINT
I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS AN YEAH, BUT WE DID GET, DID GET THAT.
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YEAH.WELL, I'LL TELL YOU THE OTHER THING IS, PEOPLE WOULD BRING THESE BY, OR, UH, FAX 'EM TO US, WHATEVER.
UH, JUST THE FACT THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE INPUT.
I THINK EVERYBODY APPRECIATED THAT.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME FEELINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE EMPLOYEES DID HAVE SOME FEEDBACK INTO IT.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS A BYPRODUCT.
THAT CAME OUT OF THIS AS WELL.
WE, WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, AS A PART OF, UH, WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THIS AGAIN, THIS, UH, LATEST, UH, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THROW THE OTHERS AWAY OR RECYCLE 'EM OR WHATEVER YOU DO WITH 'EM.
'CAUSE THEY'LL GET, THEY'LL GET MIXED UP.
BUT BEFORE YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE, UH, THE CHANGES HERE THAT THE HOUSE COME UP WITH, LET ME, LET ME POINT OUT TO YOU, AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS TOO MUCH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE STILL DON'T HAVE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, QUOTE BACK AND THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
WE, YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WORKERS' COMP, UH, UNEMPLOYMENT COSTS, UH, THE OUTSIDE AUDIT AND ALL THAT.
WE DO HAVE FIGURES PLUGGED IN HERE FOR THESE THINGS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT JUST IN A MOMENT.
UH, BUT WE'VE STILL GOT ALL THE, ALL THE WORKERS' COMP, WE'VE STILL GOT PROPERTY CASUALTY.
WE'VE GOT ALL THE, UH, OTHER PRODUCTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING DOWN THE DRAIN, UH, DOWN THE PACK, NOT DOWN THE DRAIN.
THAT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD THAT WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN THE DRAIN.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S STILL COMING DOWN, DOWN THE PACK.
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVILY OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS THAT YOU'VE HEARD THAT DISCUSSION.
HAL, DO YOU WANT TO, UH, KIND OF GO OVER YOU, YOU PUT TOGETHER A REAL GOOD, UH, SUMMARY ABOUT WHERE WE ARE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO OVER EVERYTHING YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW WITHOUT ANY, WITHOUT PUTTING, IF YOU LOOK ON THIS, THIS SHEET HERE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND, UH, COLUMN, UH, THAT SHOWS WE'RE IN THROUGH THE GOOD OF THE 594,667.
AND THAT IS WITHOUT SENDING ANY MONEY BACK TO YOU GUYS TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE.
SO YOU'VE GOT ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A HALF, I MEAN A LITTLE OVER A PENNY THAT COULD BE SHIFTED FROM THE M AND O RATE BACK TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE.
AND THAT'S BEFORE US DOING ANYTHING, UH, WITH THE INSURANCE PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
SO THAT IS, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD THAT WE'VE COME A LONG WAY FROM ONCE WE STARTED.
AND I'VE ASKED HAL TO TAKE THE OATH.
HE DID IT VERY QUICKLY, BUT I THINK HE FEELS WE'VE REALLY WORKED ON REDUCING, UH, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE COST, NOT THE COST, BUT THE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET WHERE WE HAVE HAD OVERESTIMATED WHAT WE WERE GOING TO COLLECT.
UH, PARTICULARLY FINES AND FEES AND, AND, UH, NOT SO MUCH FINES AND FEES, BUT, UH, UH, COUNTY CLERK REVENUE, DISTRICT CLERK REVENUE, SHERIFF'S REVENUE.
I MEAN, WE'VE CUT A LOT OF THOSE BACK TO MORE REALISTIC.
IS THAT, I MEAN, WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THE NUMBERS, I THINK THAT ARE IN THERE.
SO, UH, JUST A QUICK, THE SCURRY ROSSER, UH, 20 ISD, YOU KNOW, SCURRY CUT THEIR SRO OFFICER FORNEY ID FORNEY, ISD CHOSE NOT TO ADD A, OR ADD A BACK AN OFFICER THAT THEY LOST.
SO WE HAD AN OPEN POSITION IN THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET THAT, UH, HAS, THAT OFFICER HAS NOW BEEN MOVED TO THE ACT.
I THINK IT'S GOING DALLAS SECURITY.
UH, WE DID HAVE THE, UH, PUBLIC DEFENDER, THE, UH, WHERE WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO FUND ANOTHER ATTORNEY IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THAT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED NOW, UH, WE DID, UH, REDUCE, UH, UH, THE, UH, COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE REDUCED HIS 35,000.
I BELIEVE HE, HE SAID THAT WAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE DONUT WE EVER HAD, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DID CUT THAT BACK TO 35,000.
UH, THE COUNTY AUDITOR, HAL HAD A, HAD A, WE HAD A POSITION OPENING THE DISTRICT CLERK OFFICE.
AND, UH, ONE OF, UH, HAL'S, UH, LADIES IS NOW IN THAT POSITION AND HAL HAS AGREED AFTER TALKING WITH HIS STAFF TO ELIMINATE THAT POSITION.
UH, AND THAT SAVED US ANOTHER 30 AND THAT NEARLY $40,000.
AND THAT INCLUDES, THAT INCLUDES BENEFITS AND, OR IS THAT NOT, NOT INSURANCE, JUST FICA AND RETIREMENT, BUT IT DOES THE FACT, BUT, BUT NOT THE HEALTH INSURANCE PART.
THAT'S STILL JUST THE ESTIMATE.
SO THAT STILL, I APPRECIATE HOW AND HIS LADIES, UH, WORKING TO ELIMINATE THAT POSITION.
UH, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN THE SPIRIT WE'VE SEEN FROM, UH, UH, EVERYBODY THAT'S TRYING TO HELP US GET THIS, GET THIS
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THING FIXED.UH, DPSI DID MEET WITH THE, UH, SERGEANT, UH, AND, UH, THEY DID REDUCE THEIR BUDGET, BY THE WAY.
I KNOW FROM TIME TO TIME WE HAVE THE COMMENT OR THE QUESTION ABOUT THE OZARK, WHAT ALL THE, NOT SPARKLETS SPARKLETS, THERE'S A BILL THAT COMES THROUGH AND I HEAR YOUR COMMENTS AND WE DID A LITTLE CHECKING ON THAT AND WHAT THAT IS.
THEY, THEY WERE, THEY DID HAVE SPARKLETS WATER IN THE DBS OFFICE IN TERRELL, BUT YOU KNOW, THE WAY STATION THAT'S OUT ON INTERSTATE 20 WHERE WE, WHERE THEY WEIGH THE TRUCKS, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY WATER OUT THERE.
SO WE NOT ONLY PROVIDE THEM DRINKING WATER, BUT WE ALSO, WHEN THEY USE THAT THING, WE, WE HAVE A RENTAL TOILET OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO WATER OR SEWER TO THAT BUILDING.
SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE SPARK LIFTS WATER GOES TO.
BUT THE, THE SERGEANT WAS VERY AGREEABLE TO NOT HAVING ANY BOTTLED WATER IN THEIR OFFICE AREA IN TAR.
SO, UH, AND THEY, THEY CUT THE, YOU'D SEE SOME OTHER, OTHER CHANGES I THINK THEY MADE THERE TOO.
UH, WE DO HAVE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE HAVING THE, UH, UH, COUNTY COURT AT LAW, THE CORRECTION OF THE COORDINATOR SALARY.
IS THAT DISTRICT COURT? NO, THAT'S, UH, JUDGE WILEY'S COORDINATOR.
I, I LEFT OUT, UH, LONGEVITY AND AMER MERIT PAGE ON THAT FOR THE, FOR THE COORDINATOR THAT'S IN PLACE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THIS PAGE IS INTENDED TO SHOW IS, IS LAST TIME'S BUDGET AND THEN THE CORRECT, THE CHANGES MADE FROM WHAT YOU HAD LAST TIME WHENEVER WE AND ONE BEHIND REFLECT CHANGES.
ANYWAY, WE'RE JUST THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE KIND OF AN OVERALL VIEW SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WERE CHANGES FROM THE LAST PROPOSAL BUDGET WE HAD.
JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW WE GOT TO THIS $594,000 PERIOD.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH, UH, ALL OF THESE.
UH, WE, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING, YOU MIGHT LOOK, WE DID PUT THE $4,000 BACK IN THERE FOR THE KEMP LIBRARY.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ALL THOSE FUNDS HAVE NOW BEEN SHIFTED TO THE YES.
KEMP, KEMP, ISD, UH, DID REDUCE THE COUNTY CO, UH, COUNTY JUDGE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT BY ABOUT $11,000.
UH, WE DID, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT INCREASE.
THAT ONE, I'M SORRY, REDUCE THAT ONE BY 3,900, UH, CAUSE OF THE GRANT THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO STEVE'S BUDGET INTO THE POINT WE ALREADY HAD.
THERE'S A FACT OF WHAT WE HAD, RIGHT? THE, UH, DISTRICT CLERK, UH, THAT WAS, UH, RIGHT NOW RHONDA DID NOT HAVE A CHIEF DEPUTY, AND SO SHE, UH, SHE'S OUT OF THE OFFICE AND SO WE DO HAVE A NEED TO HAVE A CHIEF DEPUTY.
AND SO SHE'S PROMOTED SOMEONE TO THAT POSITION.
UH, THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT TO JOE DON HAD ASKED FOR THAT 32 WEEK, UH, 32 HOUR PER WEEK.
AND RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, REQUEST HAS NOT BEEN GRANTED.
SO THAT, UH, UH, SAVES NEARLY $10,000.
CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR REDUCE EXTRA HELP.
THAT WAS A REQUEST THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM CONS MORRIS.
AND THAT REQUEST IS NOT IN THE BUDGET.
THE ANIMAL SHE SHELTER, THE INFAMOUS ANIMAL SHELTER, WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT TO $70,000.
UH, AGAIN, YOU THINK COMMISSIONER MANNING FOR BEING A BIRD DOG ON THAT.
AND MY BELIEF IS HE WOULD CONTINUE DOWN THAT ROAD AS BIRD DOG FOREST, NO DOUBT.
UNTIL WE GET THAT ALL WORKED OUT.
THE, UH, ASSISTANT COURT, UH, COURT COORDINATOR AND THE 86TH DISTRICT COURT WILL, UH, WE HAD THAT BUDGETED AT A LESSER AMOUNT, UH, THAT WILL, UH, GO TO, UH, 50, INCREASES A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, TO BY $5,500.
THAT WAS AT AS A RE AT A REQUEST FROM JUDGE TIG AND JUDGE CHI TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TWO COORDINATOR POSITIONS ARE SIMILAR IN, IN, IN WHAT THEIR BUDGETED FOR, UH, WE DID IN THAT'S THE ASSISTANT COORDINATOR.
AND THE ONE OF 'EM, THEY'RE BOTH WILL BE ONE OF 'EM BE IN THE 86TH COURT AND THE OTHER ONE WILL BE IN THE 422ND COURT.
BUT THEY BOTH WILL SHARE WITH THE, FOR EXAMPLE, JUDGE CHITTY WILL CHAIR WITH JUDGE WILEY DOWNSTAIRS ONE, AND THEN JUDGE TYRA WILL SHARE ONE UPSTAIRS WITH JUDGE, UH, LEWIS.
NO, THEY DON'T HAVE THIS PERSON HIRED YET, DO THEY? NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE READY TO START INTERVIEWING AND, UH, SO THEY CAN GET THAT UP TO UP SPEED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE VACANCIES THAT WILL BE OCCURRING, IF YOU REMEMBER, FROM PEOPLE THAT TOOK CARE OF THEIR RETIREMENT.
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SO THE REDUCTION IN PROPERTY VALUE.ANY, ANY OTHER, I'M SORRY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ABOUT THOSE, THOSE TWO POSITIONS? UH, THE REDUCTION IN PROPERTY VALUES, WE DID GET A CLARIFICATION FROM CHRIS.
CHRIS READ THE STORY IN THE NEWSPAPER, UH, LLOYD, YOU MIGHT BE GLAD TO KNOW THAT.
AND, UH, AND, UH, WE, AND DID NOTICE THAT WE HAD HELD OUT ALL OF THAT MONEY THAT WAS UNDER PROTEST, AND PART OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF THAT MONEY WAS UNDER, UNDER ONE SUBDIVISION IN POINTING THAT HAD BEEN MISCODED.
AND, UH, SO IT REALLY WASN'T UNDER DISPUTE.
IT WAS JUST THEY HAD NOT GOT IT ALL SETTLED, BUT HE SAID, THERE'S NO REASON TO HOLD THAT OUT.
I THINK WE GOT ABOUT 5% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY PAYING TAXES, IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING AT A HIGHER, THEIR VALUES, I THINK GOING UP, I THINK BASICALLY IS WHAT THAT MEANS TO.
SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT WAS GOOD INFORMATION TO GET.
HE MADE A, MADE A SPECIAL PHONE CALL AND SENT AN EMAIL, WHICH I PROBABLY DON'T, UH, TO HAVE.
AND SO THAT, THAT, UH, ALLOWED US TO INCREASE THE, UH, UH, PROPERTY BASE BY OUR PROPERTY TAX BY 51,000, UH, JAIL BUDGET, NINE OF THE OPEN POSITIONS TO BE FILLED BY OCTOBER.
THAT DID, UH, SET US BACK 193,000.
BUT AS WE GET INTO THE BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE THAT WAS MORE THAN OFFSET BY THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE BECAUSE WE'RE BUDGETED 25,000 FOR REVENUE FROM THE OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT ARE SENDING US THEIR INMATES.
SO THAT REVENUE WENT UP DRAMATICALLY, WHICH MORE THAN ALL UPSETS OFFSET THE INCREASED JAIL NUMBERS.
AND I THINK BASED ON WHAT THE, UH, SHERIFF AND CHIEF BEAVERS TOLD US, UH, HALAL AND I, WHEN WE MET WITH HIM FRIDAY, WE ARE JUST RIGHT ON THE VERGE OF BEING OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE JAIL STANDARDS.
AND SO THEY'RE HOPING TO GET THESE POSITIONS READY TO GO BY OCTOBER THE FIRST.
AND BECAUSE HUNT COUNTY, WE HAD OVER I THINK 120 OR SOME NUMBER, I'M NOT SURE HOW ACCURATE THAT IS, BUT IT WAS A HUGE NUMBER.
AND THEY'RE STILL SENDING US PEOPLE, BY THE WAY.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT SOME PAINTING PROJECT OR SOMETHING GOING ON DOWN IN THEIR JAIL.
SO THEY REALLY SENT US A, A BUNCH OF NEW PRISONERS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS.
ACTUALLY, UH, UH, THE EXTENSION OFFICE CAME IN AND REDUCED THEIR BUDGET BY AN ADDITIONAL $6,000.
WHERE DID THEY MAKE THEIR CUTS AT? UH, PRIMARILY, UM, A LOT OF IT WAS IN THEIR PROVINCE.
UH, THEIR EDUCATION, THEY LITTLE TRAVEL, SOME TRAVEL, TRAVEL, JUST KIND OF A NOTHING MAJOR, I DON'T THINK, BUT JUST, UH, COUPLE THOUSAND THERE.
IT WAS KIND OF, KIND OF SPREAD OUT IT OUT.
AND THEN ON THE, UH, SHERIFF RECONCILED PERSONNEL BUDGET, UH, THAT WAS, I DUNNO WHAT THAT WAS.
THAT WAS OUR THIRD SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND I THINK WE'RE DONE.
EVERYBODY MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WHAT THEY'VE GOT.
SO I STILL HAVE SOME OPEN, I STILL HAVE AN OPEN POSITION IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THEY EXPECT TO FILL IT BY OCTOBER, WHICH IS, THAT'S THE PRIMARY CHANGE THERE.
I HAD IT BUDGETED FOR PART OF A YEAR.
THEN THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR HOUSING INMATES, 500,000.
WE, WE THINK THAT IS A GOOD NUMBER.
IN ADDITION TO THE 300,000 WE HAD IN THERE, I BELIEVE WE HAD 300,000.
THEY'RE EXPECTING WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING ABOUT 8,000 A YEAR.
AND THEN WE DID REDUCE THE AUDIT, UH, FEE FOR NEXT YEAR WHILE WE'RE BUDGETING.
OF COURSE, THIS IS BEFORE WE ADOPT THE FINAL BUDGET, IF WE GET THAT NUMBER BACK IN, WHICH HOPEFULLY, WE'LL, WE'RE PAYING 65 NOW.
AND THAT'S HIGHER THAN ANYBODY I'VE TALKED TO.
I MEAN, I'VE CALLED SEVERAL COUNTIES AND WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING, WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY HIGH AUDIT FEE, SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL, IT'LL BRING IT IN AT ABOUT, UH, 35,000 OR SOMETHING.
YEAH, I HAD 60 IN THERE AND THEN LIKE I DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT THEM.
WELL, OUR DEAL WAS IF YOU PUT 60 IN THERE AND THEY KNOW IT WELL, THEY MAY, MIGHT JUST, COULD YOU PUT EIGHT IN THERE,
WE MAY NOT HAVE ANYBODY APPLY
BUT AGAIN, THAT DOES NOT TRANSFER ANYTHING TO THE ROAD BRIDGE MON.
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AND, BUT THAT'S EQUIVALENT A LITTLE BIT OVER A PEAK THAT WE CAN SHIFT.NOW BACK TO YOUR BUDGETS THAT YOU GAVE UP LAST YEAR WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ON THE, UH, INSURANCE.
PRETTY, PRETTY TRUE STATEMENT.
A PENNY IS ABOUT 520,000 SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
DOES THIS REFLECT, UH, MOVING THE CAN CLEAN UP INTO TO GENERAL FUND? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WE NEED, WE NEED, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND SAID WE'RE GOING DO IT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT IT THERE YET.
WHY ARE WE GONNA DO IT? WELL, I MEAN THAT'S, I HAVEN'T DONE THIS GENERAL CONSENSUS.
BUT I PREFER SEE THE BUDGET PREPARED WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION LAST YEAR ABOUT NOT EVEN DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN BACK FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE IS, THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST WELL LACKED SERVICES WE PROVIDE.
I SAY, WELL, LACKED, IT'S, IT'S A NEED SERVICE.
AND SO, AND, AND I ALSO, I WAS GOING, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED ONCE ABOUT RESTRICTING THAT DEAL TO, UH, LUMBER BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, LUMBER IS, IS ONE TREMENDOUS PART OF, OF WHAT WE HAUL OFF AS LUMBER, AND COULD, COULD WE RESTRICT IT TO, TO GARBAGE ONLY AND NOT LUMBER AND BUILDING SP FLATS BECAUSE WE ALREADY DON'T TAKE, UH, SHA CONCRETE ROOFING MATERIAL, WHAT HAVE YOU.
THAT'S GONNA MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN OUR, IN OUR MONEY.
IF WE, UH, IF WE CAN RESTRICT THAT THING ALONE AND WE START EARLY ENOUGH AND LET THE PEOPLE KNOW, DO NOT BRING TRUCKLOADS OF LUMBER IN THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CARRY 'EM BACK ON.
HOW MUCH OF THAT DO YOU THINK WOULD WIND UP IN THE DITCHES ALONG THE ROAD? I WOULD OPTIMISTICALLY SAY NONE.
THE PERPETUAL OPTIMIST THAT I'M, I WOULD SAY EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY WOULD COMPLY WITH IT.
I, I DON'T, I'D HAVE TO SAY THERE'S A FEW ABOUT I'M GOING SAY, ARE NOT GOING TO COMPLY.
I CAN SHOW YOU ONE OR TWO THE SERVICES THAT, THAT HELP THESE PEOPLE CLEAN UP.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S, WE START RESTRICTING EVERY, A LOT OF STUFF, BUT THEY CAN'T RAIN.
I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BRING A GARBAGE, THROW IT IN THE DUMPSTER AND THEN BRING A LUMBER OUT THERE.
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FOR GARBAGE.
LIKE COUCHES, REFRIGERATORS, TEETH.
WELL, MOST PEOPLE CONTRACT THE UP OR YOU HAVE THE FENCE BLOW DOWN, THINGS SUCH AS THAT.
BUT IN REALITY THEY NOT YOUR HOUSEHOLD TRASH, YOU KNOW, NOT, I MEAN, IN REALITY THEY BRING, THEY BRING EVERY, I HAD A GUY WANT TO BRING A BOAT, BOAT, WE WANT CUT, CUT UP HIS BOAT.
AND I, I TOLD 'EM I'M BRING A BOAT.
I THOUGHT WE'VE GOT TWO OR THREE ALREADY.
YOU RUN, YOU RUN OVER A COUPLE TIMES, MATCH UP, IT'LL TAKE, WELL OF COURSE THIS THING'S NOT UNTIL THE SPRING, BUT UH, YOU HAVE TIME TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THAT WHOLE ISSUE.
AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE, I KNOW THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
I LIKE THE BUZZ OUT OF OURS INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THAT THE UNDERSTANDING, I'D LIKE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING, YOU SAID GENERAL BUDGET AND I THINK HOW ONE IN THE GENERAL OF THE ROAD BRIDGE YEAH.
WE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE TALKING ABOUT BACK TO THIS, THIS BRIDGE.
AND HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? 80? WELL, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT IF YOU WANNA DO IT.
MATERIALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'LL TAKE MONEY OFF OF THE, WHERE WE ARE.
BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S, IT'LL SAVE MONEY OUTTA YOUR ROAD BRIDGE BUDGETS TOO.
BUT HOW WOULD, THAT WOULD BE JUST 20,000 FOR A PRECINCT OF THAT WOULD, I THINK THE IDEA WAS JUST PUT ONE MASS AMOUNT, WHATEVER SHOULD MAKE YOUR WORK COUNTY, I MEAN, WHATEVER WAS IN THAT COUNTY, WHATEVER WAS IN YOUR BUDGET GOES BE WORTH.
SO IS THAT WHAT YOU GONNA DO? IS THAT A CONSENSUS THEN? JUST TO HAVE PUT 80,000 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? NOT OUT OF THE GENERAL ROAD BRIDGE, BUT OUT THE GENERAL FUND.
EVERYBODY, SO THIS 5 9 4 IS FIXING TO GO UNDER 500.
BECAUSE JOHNNY'S SCHEDULE FAILED TO PICK UP ONE EMPLOYEE IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
YEAH, THERE IS, UH, AND I WAS GOING
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TO MENTION THAT HERE IN A MINUTE.WE DO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S AUDIT, UH, OFFICE THAT HAS NOT BEEN BUDGETED.
BUT WHEN JOHNNY DID FINAL SCHEDULES THAT I PICKED UP IN HERE, THAT POSITION WAS NOT IN THERE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT JUST GOT LEFT OFF THE SCHEDULE.
WAS THE 500, I MEAN, YOU, YOU'RE SAYING OF COURSE, 100, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I WANT TO UNDERESTIMATE REVENUE, BUT THE 500,000 PER, UH, INMATES, IF WE'RE DOING 80,000 A MONTH, RIGHT.
THREE HUNDRED'S IN THIS NUMBER.
FROM THE ORIGINAL, FROM THE, FROM WE HAD 300,000 WE ADDED, ADDED ANOTHER HALF MILLION.
TO GET US UP TO A TOTAL OF 800,000, WHICH IS STILL A LITTLE UNDER 80,000 A MONTH.
BUT THAT, THAT'S, WE, THAT'S WHERE'S WHERE WE, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT HALF MILLION AND A MILLION.
WE WANTED TO STAY CONSERVATIVE ON THAT.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE STILL GOT, I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME, UH, INSURANCE SAVINGS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD 16 PEOPLE.
I THINK WE HAD 16 PEOPLE PICK UP, UH, UH, OR SEND IN PROPOSALS FOR INSURANCE CODES.
I MEAN THAT'S LOTS OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN INSURANCE CODES, SO HEALTH INSURANCE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME, SOME SAVINGS THERE.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE NEED TO FILE SOMETHING MONDAY.
I THOUGHT THE 15TH WAS THE DEADLINE.
NO, IF WE CAN GET IT FILED TODAY, THEN THAT'S TODAY.
WELL, I MEAN, I'VE STARTED ON FIRST THING IN THE MORNING THERE YOU WE'RE HAVE, HAVE A BUDGET TELL YOU ALSO AT THAT TIME.
SO NOW'S THE TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THAT.
AND EVERYBODY'S TALKED ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE GOT SOME NUMBERS.
I'VE GOT COMMISSIONER'S NUMBERS.
I GOT SOME OF YOURS AND SOME OF YOURS.
WHAT I DON'T HAVE IS LIKE WHAT YOU THINK CASH WILL BE IF SEPTEMBER 3RD, BUT YOU'VE GOT EVERYBODY'S EXPENSES IN THERE.
NO, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT JERRY'S TOLD HAVE ALL HIS MONEY.
WELL THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE A COINCIDENCE HE TOLD ME.
WHAT? THAT'S BECAUSE JERRY KNOW HOW MUCH HE HAD.
NO, JERRY, JERRY, WHEN HE TOLD ME WHEN HE DID HIS BUDGET MM-HMM
UH, HE DIDN'T, HE WAS NOT PLANNING ON ANY INCREASES AND THEY WANT ANY TAX INCREASES.
BUT HE DIDN'T INCREASE HIS BUDGET ANY, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE HIS BUDGET BY SOME MONEY TO BE, HE WAS TRY AND MAKE, JUST MAKE DO WITH WHAT? RIGHT.
WHAT THE TAX MONEY WAS ESTIMATED TO COMING IN.
THERE WASN'T ANY MORE COMING TO MONEY, MORE COMING TO PRECINCT JUAN THAT WAS COMING.
I MEAN, I'M ALLOCATED BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
SO WE NEED THAT MAY NEED TO CHANGE YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, IF WE GOT ANOTHER PENNY GOING BACK INTO THAT, IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT.
NOW WE'RE FIXING TO CUT OUT A HUNDRED SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WELL, IF THERE'S $400,000 IN THERE.
THEN MAYBE THREE, FOUR OF A SAMPLE.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I, I DID MINE, I'M GUESSING WOULD OWE BASICALLY NEED.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, YOU TOLD ME YOU HAD A SLIGHT DECREASE IN YOURS.
I, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT YOU AND JERRY ARE NOT GONNA HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO PROBABLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE CASH THAN YOU STARTED OUT WITH THIS YEAR, WHICH YOU CAN ALSO BUDGET.
WELL, THERE, THERE'LL NEVER BE ENOUGH.
I MEAN, IF WE GIVE EVERYBODY 5 MILLION A PIECE, IT WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH ENOUGH.
WE GOTTA GET THIS DONE THIS WEEK.
HOW DID YOURS COME OUT TO UH, IT, IT WENT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I GOT, UH, GOTTA FIX THAT BRIDGE ON 72.
THE BRIDGE COMES OUT ANOTHER PARKING LOT THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO COME OUT.
THE BRIDGE THAT HE HAS TO FIX SHOULD NOT COME OUTTA THE ROAD BRIDGE MONEY BECAUSE BY YOU FIXING THAT BRIDGE, ENABLING JERRY AND JC TO GET THEIR BRIDGES FIXED.
SO WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? IT'S GOTTA BE IN THE BUDGET.
IT CAN COME OUT OF GENERAL ROAD BRIDGE.
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YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PAY FOR THAT.I MEAN THAT'S, WE TALK ABOUT DOING THAT WHOLE PROGRAM WITH
IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO COME OUT OF PRECINCT FOUR.
IT WAS GONNA COME OUT OF, JUST GENERALIZE, PUT IT IN A LAND WHERE IT SAID BRIDGE.
WHENEVER YOU, YOU, WHENEVER YOU FIX THAT BRIDGE, LIKE SAY YOU'RE ALLOWING THOSE OTHER FIVE BRIDGES TO BE FIXED, RIGHT.
THAT ARE IN SOME OF 'EM ARE NEAR PRECINCT, SOME OF 'EM ARE IN ONE AND SOME OF 'EM ARE THREE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, YOUR EXPENSES SHOULD NOT COME BACK.
SOMEBODY COMES OUT GENERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE UNDER BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT? THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.
IF WE DO THAT, THEN EVERYBODY'S PAYING A FIX THAT.
WHAT'D I PUT IN THERE? 62,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR A LITTLE MORE THAN 28% OF THAT.
AND I'VE GOT QUITE A IAM STUFF OVER THERE.
'CAUSE I'M GONNA BE ABLE, I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO BRIDGE BUSINESS LOOK LIKE POSSIBLY I GET YOU RAY HUBBARD.
DON'T FORGET RAY HUBBARD THAT MUCH, BUT I HAVE SOME IAMS OVER THERE THAT WHENEVER YOU GET READY TO DO THAT, I IAMS THAT JIM LEFT OVER.
I THOUGHT YOU HAD NO MATERIAL DOWN THERE TO DO THAT WITH.
WELL, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO POST A BUDGET BY THE 15TH OR AS SOON AS WE CAN.
AND I THINK, UH, AND THEN ONCE WE POST THAT TENTATIVE BUDGET, IT'S NOT THE FINAL BUDGET OF COURSE.
THEN WE CAN'T TOUCH IT FOR, I MEAN WE CAN'T, IT HAS TO STAY POSTED FOR 30 DAYS OR 31 DAYS OR A MONTH OR WHATEVER, 30 30 DAYS.
AND THEN, WHICH WOULD PUT US, LET'S SAY IF WE POST IT LIKE NEXT MONDAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE 15TH THAT GIVES US TO THE, UH, SEPTEMBER THE 15TH.
AND IN BETWEEN TIME ALL THIS OTHER INSURANCE STUFF AND ALL THE AUDITOR AND ALL THAT SHOULD COME ROLLING IN.
SO IT'S NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO DELAY US THAT MUCH, BUT IT DOES.
IF WE COULD GET, IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE 400,000 TODAY INTO YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE BUDGETS, THAT WILL GIVE US A PRETTY GOOD START.
AND THEN TO GET HOW THE NUMBERS THAT HE HAS TO HAVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT UNLESS YOU, YOU PUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN EACH BUDGET THEN AS Y'ALL GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GONNA DISTRIBUTE.
IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE THE BEST WAY? WHAT'S WHAT'S ALWAYS HAPPENED IS, YOU KNOW, HERE'S YOU TAKE THE GENERAL ROAD BRIDGE, HERE'S ALL THE REVENUES THAT WE'VE ESTIMATED, THE EXPENSES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT, LIKE THE, LIKE THE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION AND SIGNS THAT COME OUT OF GENERAL.
WHAT'S LEFT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED BASED ON A PERCENTAGE AGREED UPON BY THE COMMERCIALS.
IT'S LIKE 28 TO FOUR AND 23, 23 AND 23, 22, WHATEVER.
Y'ALL HAVE NOT HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
YOU'VE HAD IT, BUT YOU'VE NOT SETTLED ON RIGHT.
THE HISTORICAL WAY AND THE JURY BEEN OUT.
I MEAN NOW IT'S TIME TO DO IT.
RIGHT NOW WHAT I SENT Y'ALL I DID TELL JERRY WE'VE COVERED MORE
RIGHT NOW WHAT I SENT Y'ALL IS SAME PERCENTAGES AS LAST YEAR.
AND UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE A BETTER IDEA, WELL WE CAN ALWAYS USE MORE LIKELY IF YOU, IF YOU GIVE EACH ONE OF US ANOTHER HALF MILLION DOLLAR A MILLION DOLLARS OH YEAH.
THERE WOULD STILL NOT BE ENOUGH.
BUT AT LEAST IT 400,000 FLEW IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO UH, I WANNA SAY I CAN BELIEVE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I GONNA CUT THE 400 THAT LAST YEAR.
THAT WAS A ONE TIME BAIL, UH, FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE.
BUT WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE THIS A SERIOUS CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR TO WELL, I, I GUESS WHAT I'LL PROPOSE, IF YOU HAVE FOUR, FIVE LEFTOVER, IT SHOULD BE SPLIT THE MAJORITY, I THINK IF YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH TO DO YOURS WELL, IT SHOULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN THREE AND BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES GOING TO GET, GET UP A LOT OF ROADS.
I'M NOT GOING, HOPEFULLY I'M NOT GONNA NEED ANY MORE MONEY THAN I'VE ASKED FOR.
SO IF THERE'S MORE MONEY AVAILABLE IT SHOULD GO TO, AND I'M NOT TOO SURE, I KNOW THAT JERRY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN HIS, I LOOK JUST LOOKING AT HIS ORIGINAL AND HE'S NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN HIS TO DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO TO THE ROADS.
YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA COLLECT THAT MANY NEW ROADS THAT ARE GONNA COST YOU A LOT OF MONEY.
THESE TWO GUYS ARE, THEY'RE GONNA GET SOME EXPENSIVE ROADS TOO.
YOU GOT THE MOST ROADS, BUT YOU'RE NOT PICKING UP A LOT OF NEW ROADS.
BUT THEY'RE GONNA PICK UP A LOT OF NEW ROAD AND WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I MADE A PROPOSAL ABOUT TAKE GOOD STUFF FOR YOU WHEN I CUT MY BUDGET DOWN.
IF YOU WANT ME TO FIX THAT ROAD, I'LL PROVIDE THE LABOR AND THE MACHINERY STUFF AND FIX TO YOUR SPECIFICATIONS WITH MY GUYS.
YOU JUST HAVE TO BUY THE MATERIAL THAT
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WAY.AND IF YOU, THE MOLD AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU CALL SAY, I NEED THAT ROAD 2 67 MOW OR WHATEVER.
THERE'S NO SENSE TO YOU EVER TO DRIVE.
MAY NOT ALL THAT THIRD MOW AROUND THROUGH THAT.
THE SAME THING WITH DE GRADING OF THE ROADS.
UH, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY WE'D HAVE FOR YOU.
THERE'S QUITE, WE'D HAVE YOU, YOU NEED ROAD GRAD, WHATEVER.
YOU CALL ME AND TELL ME THAT BROWN GRADE 2 36 AND WE'LL JUST TELL YOU WHEN WE DO Y'ALL DO SOMETHING ELSE, IT MAKE WE WORK A SCHEDULE OUT.
WE'LL HAVE, I'M GONNA PROPOSE IT, YOU KNOW, PRECINCT TOO.
WE'LL HAVE MACHINERY AND THE LABOR WITH MY EIGHT GUYS.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT WORK.
BUT I DIDN'T PUT NOT ANYTHING IN THERE FOR MATERIALS.
AND REMEMBER THE MONIES YOU'VE SAVED NOW ON THE PERSONNEL YOU CUT BECAUSE THAT MONEY CAN GO INTO THE, YOUR GENERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS AS WELL FOR THE, FOR THE, YOU'VE SAVED TWO OR THREE SALARIES OUT 33 AND THEN RAY SAVED FOR THE POSITION.
JC SIGNED WHAT YOU'VE WOUND UP WITH.
SO THAT MONEY CAN GO DOWN TOWARDS MATERIALS.
SO, OR WHEREVER YOU, IF YOU'VE GOT 400 AND I WANT TELL YOU I WANT THIS WORK FOR ME NEXT YEAR OR NOT.
SO IF YOU HAVE, HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU THINK YOU NEED? I MEAN, YOU, YOU ALWAYS USE TAKE CONSIDER AS WHAT THESE GUYS ARE GONNA NEED.
JUST, YOU KNOW, I GOT A HUNDRED MORE MILES THAN WHAT THEY GOT.
UH, YOU KNOW, JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT I, WHAT I DO.
I CAN KEEP PASSING AND GRADING AND, AND PUTTING OUT CONCRETE, UH, ON A HEAVILY TRAVEL ROAD.
AFTER WE GET 'EM, AFTER WE GET THIS COUNTER DOWN THERE AND GET IT STARTED WORKING, UH, I'LL KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.
BUT AT THIS POINT I GOT A CERTAIN, CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND I'M GOING TO, I JUST DIVIDED IT UP.
SPEND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY IN EACH COMMUNITY FROM, FROM BECKER, KEMP, COMBINE BACK AROUND FIELD TOWN, WEST SIDE OF THE LAKE, BACK AROUND MAYBANK, JUST ROUND AND AROUND AND AROUND.
SO, AND KNOW IF I, IF I GET ANOTHER HUNDRED OR ANOTHER 400 MAKE WORK MM-HMM
WHATEVER, WHATEVER I GET, I'LL MAKE IT WORK.
CAN YOU GIVE UP TO FOUR? OH, NO SIR.
I MAKE IT WORK NO MATTER 400 IF WE'RE GOING PUT THE, WHAT ABOUT DO WE WANT TO HAVE ANY KIND OF BALANCE? YES.
THIS, WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT TO ZERO GAP.
AND HOW MUCH, BUT HOW MUCH A BALANCE DO WE WANT? WELL, ANYTHING'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE LIKE A $3 MILLION BALANCE, BUT I DON'T THINK, YOU DON'T THINK YOU SQUEEZE THAT TO 4,000.
BUT I, I DO THINK BASED ON WHAT HAL HAS SAID AND WHAT JOHNNY HAS SAID, THE TREASURER HAS SAID, I DO THINK WE'RE GONNA WIND UP IN THE BLACK THIS YEAR AND HOW MUCH THAT AMOUNT REMAINS TO BE.
WE'VE STOOD OUT TWO MONTHS TO GO, YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE TRENDING, YOU KNOW, SO WE ARE HOPING, YOU KNOW, WE WERE 1.6 IN THE RED, SO YOU KNOW, TO GET OUTTA THAT HOLE YOU GOTTA GET AT LEAST 1.6 AND THEN YOU, THE FURLOUGH DAYS, THAT'S ANOTHER CLOSE TO 1,000,008, 900,000 TO SAVE ROUNDED OFF.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WHAT YOU GUYS SHIFTED OVER, I MEAN THAT, THAT HEADS UP.
SO, UH, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THINGS REALLY CHANGE DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE SHOULD HAVE A FUND BALANCE AGAIN, A POSITIVE FUND BALANCE, NOT A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE.
SO WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME MONEY AND ANYTHING WE CAN ADD TO IT ON NEXT YEAR BUDGET IS, IS GOOD.
UH, AND SOME OF THAT MAY COME ABOUT COST OF THE, OF THE INSURANCE CHANGES THAT WE WIND UP GETTING.
IF, IF WE SEE, SO WE WIND UP LEAVING 50,000 IN THAT INSTEAD OF UH, REDUCING IT TO ZERO IF WE LEAVE 50,000 IN.
DOES THAT, IS THAT AN EXCESSIVE FIGURE? DOES IT NEED TO BE 20 OR 10 OR, OR WHAT? I KNOW YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE 3 MILLION.
SO WHAT HAPPENED? YEAH, YOU, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S Y'ALL'S CALL, UH, FIFTY'S NOT EXCESSIVE, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT CUTS DOWN ON WHAT GETS TRANSFERRED.
COULD Y'ALL MAKE IT WITH ANOTHER HUNDRED THOUSAND A PIECE IN THE THING? LEAVE A HUNDRED IN THE, IN THE KIDNEY.
I MAKE IT, I MAKE IT WORK FOR FOR, FOR THIS.
I MEAN FOR, FOR THE TEMPORARY.
WE'RE STILL, WE'VE STILL GOT WORK TO DO, YOU KNOW, SO WELL LET'S LET'S ADD A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO THESE GUYS.
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ROAD BRIDGE BUDGET AND JERRY'S BUDGET.ZERO ADDED TO WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU AND WHICH WAS THAT $700,000 INCREASE LLOYD OVER TWO YEARS AGO DECREASE.
LLOYD HOW MUCH? $700,000 IN PRECINCT.
AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY MILES OF ROAD YOU LOSE GOT HUNDRED.
YOU GOT HUNDRED 13 RIGHT NOW HE'S GOT THREE, FOUR.
WELL, I MEAN, ANYWAY, REDUCED MINE, MYSELF SAID THERE ARE, THERE ARE STATISTICS AND THERE, AND I WRITE STATISTICS ALL THE TIME.
SO
BUT, UH, I DO THINK TILL WE GET OUT OF THE, THE HOLE THAT WE'RE IN THAT WE NEED TO BE AS CONSERVATIVE AND WE HAVE BEEN.
I MEAN I THINK EVERYBODY, THE REVENUES MUCH BETTER.
THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE SMITH COUNTY AND WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T CONTINUE OR WE CAN'T DEPEND ON THAT FOREVER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING GET THEIR JAIL.
BUT IT HELPS US CRAWL OUT OF THIS DEEP HOLE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE LESS EMPLOYEES TOO WHEN THAT
SEE, 700,000 OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, SIR.
700,000 OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
SO WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO, YOU NEED THEIR, YOU NEED THEIR BUDGETS.
WELL WHAT I, WHAT I PLAN TO DO IS, IS TAKE ANOTHER SHOT AT YOU GUYS, UH, I'M GONNA TAKE A SHOT AT, AT YOUR CASH BALANCE.
YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT IT IS TODAY.
WE'VE GOT THESE PAYROLLS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA SPEND BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER 30? I DUNNO.
BUT THEN THERE'S YOUR CASH BALANCE, UH, PLUS PROBABLY TRANSFER COMING TO YOU.
SO I'LL GET EVERYTHING I KNOW TO Y'ALL TODAY UNDER CASH.
AND THEN IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE TAKEN ABSOLUTELY.
WHAT ABOUT ON THE UNIFORM THING? I WE JUST NEED TO DEAL WITH JACK ON THAT OR YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT THAT, UH, JC PREDECESSOR DID THAT DOESN'T LOOK THE WATER JACK, JACK JUST ABOUT UP.
WHAT, WHAT'D HE DO SIGN A 10 YEAR DEAL OR SOMETHING? I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SIGNED BEFORE I GOT HERE AND, AND I DON'T, HE, HE NEVER TALKED TO ME ABOUT ANY OF THAT.
BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM JACK IS THAT HE WAS UNDER SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT AND IT'S JUST ABOUT UP, I THINK THIS MAYBE THE LAST YEAR OF, OF THE AGREEMENT AND JACK DIDN'T WANT TO BREAK THE AGREEMENT FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO YOU BREAK IT, THE AGREEMENT HAS NO LEGAL, I DON'T SEE HOW THEY HOLD OUR FAITH FIRE OVER SOMETHING IN SOME CAN'T DO IT FOR ONE YEAR UNLESS YEAR.
DID THE COURT EVER APPROVE THAT OR THE COURT DIDN'T? ANYTHING ABOUT, ACTUALLY I THINK THE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED BY YOUR ROAD SUPERINTENDENT, NOT EVEN THE COMMISSIONER.
OH, REALLY? REALLY? THAT'S WHY I SAY WE CAN GET JOHN, CHECK THAT OUT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE'RE SUPPOSED RATHER WE SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY ON, ON UNIFORMS. AND I WOULD THINK IF WE WENT TO ONE COMPANY AND SAY, LOOK, INSTEAD OF HAVING FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND SAY, LOOK, UH, ALL THESE ROAD AND BRIDGE EMPLOYEES AND NEED UNIFORMS. YOU GET A UNI, I MEAN A UNIFORM, UNIFORM, UNIFORM.
WHEREVER EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY LOOKS THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE NUMBER ON THEIR SHIRT ONE THROUGH FOUR.
AND THEN SAY, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A VOLUME HERE, WE NEED A VOLUME DISCOUNT PLUS A NEWCOM COMMISSIONER DISCOUNT.
WHO, WHO DO WE HAVE IT WITH? I MEAN, WHO I GOT CENSUS.
SEE WE GET A, A CASSIE BROUGHT OVER TO ME OR ANGIE OR ONE OF Y'ALL BROUGHT OVER TO ME LAST WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE LAST.
WE GET A BILL FROM ARAMARK FOR EVERY TWO WEEKS FOR LIKE $300.
THAT'S, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S PRETTY HIGH DOLLAR.
I WENT TO A DIFFERENT QUALITY RUG AT THE ECO STATION WHEN I FIRST CAME IN 'CAUSE THEY WERE HAMMERING ME OVER THAT DEAL.
AND I, AND WHAT IT IS IS FOR THAT WHEELCHAIR RAMP THAT GOES UP INTO THE DEALER, THERE'S NO STAIRS THERE.
THEY GOT A WHEELCHAIR RAMP THAT GOES UP IN THERE.
WELL IF YOU HADN'T GOT A RUG THERE AND IT RAINS WHEN BACK WHEN IT USED TO RAIN OR SOMETHING, IT'D GET SLICK.
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WELL I WOULD THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A GOOD BUSINESS TO SEE IF WE MAKE THAT WE INCLUDE RUGS IN THAT DEAL.BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IF THEY CAN MAKE US A BETTER DEAL, WELL WE'RE PROBABLY GOING ABOUT 50 LIMIT ANYWAY.
WE NOT YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR UNIFORM ROUTE? YOU KNOW, I, I WANT SAY MINE'S AROUND 20 22, 20, 20 4,000.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THIS JC? I MEAN YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY NO, NO.
I AGREE WITH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WE NEED, I THINK WE NEED ONE COMPANY.
THE ONLY DEAL WAS IS WHEN I TALKED WITH JACK ABOUT IT, I THINK I TALKED WITH JACK BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED AND JACK TOLD ME THE SAME THING, THAT WE WAS UNDER SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO IT LAST YEAR.
BUT WELL WE GET JOHN CHECK THE AGREEMENT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT YEAH, BECAUSE ONE COMMISSIONER CAN'T SIGN SOMETHING AND OBLIGATE TO HOLD THE REST OF THE COUNTY.
I WOULDN'T THINK SO ARREST THE COURT.
BUT I THINK LUCY SIGNED THAT AGREEMENT.
MR. WELL I MEAN JACK JUST TALKED TO US ONE, HE TOLD US THE SAME THING.
SO I THINK WE JUST ABOUT DISAGREE.
DISAGREE ABOUT TO COME TO THE END.
WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW, THE JACK IS JUST OVERWHELMED WITH ALL THESE PROPOSAL.
WE MIGHT WANNA WAIT MONTH OR TWO TILL WE GET PAST THAT AND THEN WE CAN DO IT MAYBE AS SOON AS WE KIND OF GET THROUGH WITH ALL THIS AND THEN GET JACK TO GET STARTED.
I MEAN WE TALKED TO ONE TIME ABOUT MAYBE IT'S DID OUR OWN UNIFORMS, THEN WE PUT BUY INSTEAD OF RENTING A LIFE TOGETHER.
HE SAID MAYBE THERE'S SOME SAVINGS OF THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE KIND OF NEED TO LOOK INTO.
WE NEEDS TO SEE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.
I SAY RIGHT NOW PROBABLY NOT TIME TO CONFUSE THE SITUATION.
SO SEEING EAST PRECINCT BY ON NO, UH, YEAH, BUT MAYBE INSTEAD FROM A UNIFORM COMPANY WASHING THEM AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I HAVE THEM DO THE CLEANING, RIGHT? YEAH.
MAYBE WE HAVE A CLEAN DOES SHE WON'T TALK TO YOUR WIFE INTO IT? SHE TRY MONEY.
SHE GOES, SHE ALREADY TOLD ME THAT.
UH, THE OTHER IS THAT OKAY ON THIS, THIS DEAL AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL NEED TO INFORM JERRY AND I DON'T, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH HIM ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T THINK HE WOULD BE FOLLOWABLE WITH THAT.
WELL I THINK IT CAME UP ONCE JERRY WAS HERE.
YEAH, I THINK HE WAS IN LAB I VISITED.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO, AND I THINK I SENT Y'ALL AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TOOK THE 4.4%.
I, I NOT EVERYBODY BUT MOST ELECTED OFFICIALS TOOK THE 4.4% DECREASE IN SALARY LAST YEAR.
EVERYBODY SIGNING THAT FOR THAT.
REMEMBER WE DID THAT, UH, TO GET THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BACK UP TO WHERE THEY WERE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUBLISH EVERYBODY'S SALARIES AND JUST A ONE NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENT IN THE COUNTY AND UH, JUST TO GET THAT FOUR ONE 4% BACK.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME BECAUSE EVERYBODY AGREED TO DO IT.
BUT WE CHECKED AND TO DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA NEED TO PUBLISH THAT PRETTY SOON.
AND IT WOULD BE THE SALARY IS WHAT THE NEW SALARY IS EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT INCREASING YOUR SALARY, IT'S JUST GOING TO GET EVERYBODY.
I THINK IT SHOULD JUST, IF WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO DO IT.
YEAH, BUT YOU NEED TO BE I NOT SAY CREATIVE ANYMORE.
IT NEEDS TO BE STATE WHAT YOUR BUDGET SALARY WAS FOR LAST YEAR.
WHAT YOUR REDUCTION MAYBE VOLUNTARY REDUCTION FOUR, 4% IN WHAT THE CURRENT SALARY IN 25 IS GONNA BE.
SO IT'S THE SAME NUMBER AS WAS IN 2011.
AND ANGIE'S GOT A FORM, SO, SO THERE'S NO, IT DOESN'T SHOW YOU AS ANY, RIGHT.
IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE WAS MORE MONEY AFTER THERE.
I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED IF Y'ALL WOULD LET ME KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING IN THE PAPER OF DOING A, LIKE A FRONT PAGE STORY OR AT LEAST A STORY SOMEWHERE IN THE PAPER, UH, ABOUT HEY, THEY'RE DECIDES IN THE PAPER THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
IF THEY TOOK THE FOR FURLOUGH DAYS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DID AND BY LAW THOUGH, THEY, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MAKE THAT MONEY LAST YEAR THEY HAD TO PUBLISH IT.
I WOULDN'T BE ABOVE DOING THAT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE ANY ETHICAL ISSUE.
THERE'S FUNNY QUIRK IN THE LAW THAT REQUIRES THAT.
I SAY SOME PHONE CALLS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
ANGIE, YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING ACCORDING TO UH, JIM ALLISON, WHATEVER YOU GOT PAID LAST YEAR IS WHAT BUDGET, WHAT YOUR BUDGET SALARY WAS.
EVEN THOUGH THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET SHOWS THAT AMOUNT YOU TOOK LESS
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THAN THAT.SO THAT'S WITH THAT AFFIDAVIT.
WELL WE COULD, WE CAN, WE COULD WHAT WAS JUST LIKE THIS SHOWS WHAT THE BUDGET AMOUNT WAS BECAUSE WE DID THE BUDGET PRIOR TO TAKING THE VOLUNTARY MENT AMOUNT.
BUT ACCORDING TO HIM, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BUDGET SAYS.
WHAT YOU, YOU EARN IS WHAT YOUR BUDGET SALARY IS.
BUT WE WANT, THEY WON'T SAY I'VE GOT A 4.4% INCREASE, WE GONNA HAVE THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT ON SIDE.
IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO POST THIS THE SALARIES, MAYBE YOU CAN INCLUDE YOUR 2011 SALARY TO 2012 TO 2012 SALARIES.
I'LL MAKE DECISION YOU HAVE TO POST THE 2011 SALARIES.
OR YOU CAN PUT A
BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNEW EVERYBODY DID IT.
OR I, AGAIN, I SAY EVERYBODY, NOT EVERYBODY DID IT, BUT MOST EVERYBODY DID IT.
AND SO, UH, THAT IS, WE JUST NEED TO DO IT TO GET OURSELVES COMPLETELY IN THE LAW AND, AND THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT.
SO, BUT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO THAT PRETTY ASSUMING I THINK WE CAN DO THAT OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET.
BUT THE BUDGET IS GOING TO REFLECT THAT.
I MEAN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT 30 DAYS.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU DO WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON? COMMISSIONER, I THINK THIS BRINGS THIS NEWSPAPER AT TIME WILL BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE.
I PROBABLY AND THAT WHAT WE FIGURED OUT.
IT'LL SHOW, IT'LL SHOW LIKE $1,600 MORE FOR THE TWO.
BUT THAT IT'S JUST GONNA HAPPEN IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK UP, GONNA SHOW 1600 MORE, BUT IT GETS EVERYBODY ON THE SAME LEVEL.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT PUTS WHAT THEIR ACTUAL SALARY IS.
AND SO I DON'T SEE THAT IT, IF WE PUT WHAT YOUR SALARY IS, UH, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA, WELL DO NOT NOW EVEN SHOW THAT BECAUSE WE GO BY WHAT THEY WERE PAID LAST YEAR, NOT WHAT THEY WERE BUDGETED.
SO WHATEVER THEY PAID LAST YEAR IS CONSIDERED THEIR BUDGETED SALARY.
BUT FOR THESE TWO, ALLISON, BUT FOR THESE TWO, THAT'S LESS THAN THOSE TWO, RIGHT? NO, THESE TWO GOT PAID LESS THAN THOSE TWO.
NOT THIS YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE.
IT'S WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY PAYING NOT FOR THE BUDGET.
THAT'S WHAT I NEVER DID REALLY UNDERSTAND IS THE 4.4 FOR, FOR OUR SALARY TO BE DECREASED.
THAT MEAN WE DIDN'T GIVE A 4.4.
WE DIDN'T GIVE, DIDN'T GIVE 4.4 WHENEVER THEY DID THEIR, WE SIGNED THE BILL FOR IT.
BUT IF YOU FIGURED UP RIGHT, WE DIDN'T GIVE IT, THEY GAVE YOU AN INCREASE WHEN THEY DID THEIR VOLUNTARY DEDUCTION.
IT DIDN'T SAY THE LESSER AMOUNT.
IT JUST SAID 4.4 BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE BEEN LESS THAN 4.4.
BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THE NEW ADVERTISE IS GOING TO GET EVERYBODY WHOLE IN, GET EVERYBODY WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.
AND SO, BUT IT WON'T SHOW EXTRA FOR THEM BECAUSE WHAT I GO BY WILL BE WHAT DEBBIE PAID THEM.
AND THEN WHAT THEY'RE GOING BE PAID THIS NEXT YEAR.
WHICH WILL GET US UP TO EVERYBODY WILL BE COMPLETELY LEGAL.
I SAY LEGAL THAT WILL CUT OUT ANY, BUT SHE THAT I'LL STILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHERE $1,600 COME FROM OR WHATEVER.
IT'S BE LIKE, HUH? IT WON'T BE THERE.
NO, BECAUSE WITH YOUR SALARY THAT YOU'RE MAKING RIGHT NOW IS THE SAME AS RAY CLARK'S.
AND YOU'RE GONNA GO UP TO THE SAME AMOUNT AS RAY CLARK'S.
'CAUSE YOU TOOK LESS THAN THE 4.4%.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE NEW PUBLICATION WILL GET EVERYBODY WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
I PUT HOW MUCH THE HIGHEST INCREASE IS.
SOME EMPLOYEES WILL, THEY'LL GET UP TO 4.4%.
IF THERE ARE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GETTING MORE THAN THAT, IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY.
THEY JUST SAY MOST EMPLOYEES WILL GET A 4.4% INCREASE.
ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE TO SHOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY MAKE.
MATHEMATICALLY IT'S REALLY MORE THAN 4.4.
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YEAR FOUR AND TAKE 4.4% OFF TO GET FROM THERE, BACK IS MORE THAN 4.4.IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED DOLLARS, SO, AND YOU TAKE 4% OFF, THAT'S 96.
IF YOU ADD THE EXACTLY WHAT THEY GAVE.
WELL, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO GET WITH, WITH THE JIM AND WITH UH, JOHN MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE PUBLISHED.
BUT I DID, I THOUGHT THEY, I THOUGHT THE EMAIL WE GOT FROM JIM SAID WE JUST FOCUS THE SALARIES AND THAT'S IT.
WELL, WHEN WE HAVE TO PUBLISH THAT, WE'RE GIVING EMPLOYEES ASSAULT CERTAIN STOP.
WE ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS IN THE NOTICE.
WELL WE, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT.
SO WE HAVE PUBLISH BOYS, DECREASING THEM.
YOU DON'T HAVE REGULAR EMPLOYEE.
SEE ACTUALLY THIS NOTICE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED LAST YEAR SHOWING THE DECREASE.
NO, THAT'S WHY BECAUSE IT WASN'T SO I BUT IT SAYS ANY IF IT AFFECT, IT DOESN'T SAY POLICY FOR NEGATIVE.
IT SAYS ANY CHANGE IN SALARY SHOULD BE PUBLISHED.
THAT'S WHY THEY VOLUNTARILY GAVE BUT WE DIDN'T PUBLISH THE NOTICE EITHER.
THAT'S WHY VOLUNTARILY, BUT IT STILL SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED.
NO, THAT'S WHERE ELECTED OFFICIALS, IF YOU GET A DECREASE.
BUT IT BUT WE DIDN'T PUBLISH THE, I MEAN EVERYBODY KNEW IT BECAUSE THE PAPERS ALL THAT CARRIED.
WELL NO, THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO SIGN THE AFFIDAVITS IS BECAUSE IT WASN'T PUBLISHED.
'CAUSE I CAN'T PUBLISH AN AD SAYING THE BUDGET SAYS THERE'S A DECREASE WHEN THE BUDGET DIDN'T SAVE FOR THE DECREASE.
WHAT TIME DO YOU RELEASE INCREASE OR OFFICIAL SALARIES? THEY'VE GOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY CAN FILE A GRIEVANCE.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT 10 DAY TIME PERIOD.
ANYBODY FILE A GRIEVANCE REDUCING THEIR SALARIES
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AND SO WE COULDN'T, WHY NOT EVERYBODY TOOK THIS.WE HAD SOME THAT DID SAY 4.4%, BUT THEY DIDN'T.
THEY HAD, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO ANYWAY.
UM, I THINK, I THINK IT'S REALLY 4.44 THAT SHE, IT IS, IT IS.
AND FOUR THEN IT'LL BE 4.65 TO GET IT BACK.
BECAUSE, SORRY, 4.44 OF 96 MAKE HUNDRED.
NO, I READ, YOU SEE HIS TRANSCRIPT.
RICK AND I GOT A LOT IN COMMON.
AND Y'ALL ARE WHAT Y'ALL ARE, I'M HAPPY FOR Y'ALL TO CHECK THAT NUMBER OUT.
BUT IF YOU TAKE, YOU KNOW, BUT THE FULL SALARY AND, AND WHAT IT WAS AND THEN WHAT PERCENTAGE OF WHAT IT WAS GETS YOU BACK TO FULL SALARY.
WELL, BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE GOING TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO LEGALLY AND WE HAVE TO PUBLISH THAT AD ONE TIME IN ONE COUNTY NEWSPAPER IN OUR PLAN IS, IS TO PUBLISH IT IN THE CALL FROM HAROLD.
AND BECAUSE THAT'S THE COUNTY RECEIPT, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE ALWAYS PUBLISHED THEM I THINK IN THE PAST.
SO, UH, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LAW THAT WE DO THAT.
SO, UH, I DON'T THINK COURT EVEN HAS TO TAKE AN ACTION, BUT I DON'T THINK, WE NEVER HAD, NO, I JUST PUBLISH IT ONCE.
HE FILES IT ONCE BUDGET WHAT'S ON FILE ON THAT BUDGET? YEAH.
SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON IT AND WE'LL RUN IT BY JOHN, RUN IT BY JIM, JIM ALLISON, TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT AS LEGALLY AS WE KNOW HOW TO GET IT.
AND LLOYD, THE STORY YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS PROBABLY GOING TO HELP US.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO RUN THIS, UH, A WEEK FROM A WEEK FROM THIS SURGERY THEN, OR THAT BE, IT'S GONNA BE CLOSE TO THE END OF AUGUST.
I WAS JUST THINKING KIND OF SNOW, BECAUSE I CAN'T, I'LL WRITE IT FOR YOU.
I CAN'T PUBLISH IT UNTIL SEVENTH DATE TOO FOR THE HEARING BECAUSE IT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TELLS IN NOTICE IS WHEN THE HEARING WILL BE.
WE'LL, WE'LL, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A COMPLICATED DEAL, YOU KNOW, FOR IT SHOULD BE, BUT IT IS.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL JUST FOLLOW THE LAW AS CLOSE AS WE CAN MAKE EXACT CASE.
THE OTHER THING THAT IT HAS TO BE IN THE BUDGET WAS FILED THIS WEEK IS THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE IN APPRAISED.
SO THIS YEAR'S TAX RATE WILL RAISE MORE FUNDS THAN LAST YEAR'S.
THEN Y'ALL GOTTA GET THAT THING FILED NOW, BUT IT'S BELOW THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE TAX RATE TAX.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE TAX RATE.
BUT IF YOU YEAH, BUT IS IT BELOW THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE? I HAVEN'T SEEN THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE MISSING.
IT WAS IN THE PAPER LAST WEEK.
AND IT IS LIKE A PENNY HIRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
I THOUGHT WE'D SEND EVERYBODY, WE'VE NOT, WHAT'S IN THERE? EVERYBODY A COPY OF IT, BUT IT, IT RAN HAS TO RUN ONE TIME IN THE PAPER.
SO, UH, WHEN, UH, DICK PUT IT IN THE, UH, TARIFF PAPER, THEY GOT IT IN, I THINK LAST THURSDAY'S TAR PAPER.
SO, BUT IT, IT IS BELOW, IT'S BELOW THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.
I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT ANY BELOW.
SO YOU'RE THINKING WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN ADDITION.
WE ALWAYS HAVE IN THE PAST IS WE RAISED ANY MORE TAXES THAN THE YEAR BEFORE WE DID THE TWO HEARINGS AND WE HAVE TO PUBLISH SPECIAL DOCUMENTS.
BUT THEY'RE SAYING IN THE BOOK THIS YEAR THAT YOU ONLY HAVE TO DO THAT IF IT'S ABOVE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE EVER HAD DO THAT.
EVEN WHEN YOU DECREASE IT, YOU HAVE TO PUBLISH IT.
IF YOU BRING IN MORE, YOU REDUCE YOUR TAXES.
YEAH, BUT THEY FIVE MINUS AMOUNT SEEMS LIKE YOU ACTUALLY INCREASED IT, BUT YOU DIDN'T, BUT THEY LET YOU BACK OUT NEW PROPERTIES.
AND THAT MAY BE THE REASON THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO, BUT ANYWAY, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK IF WE DO DO, OKAY, SO ITS 1230 AND I'M GETTING HUNGRY.
Y'ALL WANNA WRAP THIS UP OR WE WANT TO CALL OUT THE FOOD? YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE NEED TO TALK ANYMORE.
WHAT'S THAT FOOD? NO, I NEED TO GO GET WORK.
YOU CAN FILE THIS BUDGET AND THEN MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS TO IT LATER.
JUST DON'T CHANGE THE TAX RATE ON IT.
WELL, CAN YOU CHANGE THE ALLOCATION OF THE TAX RATE? YES.
I HAVE TO POST NOTICES IF YOU'RE, I I DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT BEYOND QUESTION.
WE CAN CHANGE THE, WE CAN'T ADD TO THE TOTAL TAX RATE, BUT WE CAN CHANGE THE WHAT TAKES PLACE IN THE
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A PENNY OF THE TWO SINCE WE TOOK OUT LAST YEAR OR MAYBE EIGHT 10TH,
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10 YEARS.MAYBE SEVEN, SEVEN NOW THAT MAY I WAS ROUNDING IT OFF NOW, BUT AGAIN NOW THAT MAY CHANGE AS WE START GETTING BACK OUR INSURANCE INFORMATION TOO.
SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE SOME MONEY, IT'D BE GOOD IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO 14.
YOU DON'T GET THAT INFORMATION UNTIL AFTER THE BUDGET YEAR.
YOU CAN DO A BUDGET AND, AND ADD THAT ANYWHERE IN THERE, CAN YOU? YEAH.
WHAT WE POST THIS WEEK DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE FINAL BUDGET, RIGHT.
JUST HAS TO BE ON FILE FOR 30 DAYS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S UH, THAT'S, UH, A JOB.
I MEAN, THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THE COUNTY AUDITOR.
WHAT HAS TO BE ON FILE FOR 30 DAYS.
THE FINAL BUDGET, THE PROPOSED BUDGET PROPOSED 30 DAYS BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE A VOTE ON YOU.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES, RIGHT? WELL, AS LONG AS THEY'RE DISCLOSED WHEN YOU ADOPT IT, YOU JUST STATE YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES YOU'RE GONNA MAKE TO IT, JUST LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
I THINK THAT THE SAME THING HAPPENED LAST YEAR BECAUSE WHEN YOU YEAH.
WHEN YOU DID THIS BUDGET LAST YEAR WHERE, WHERE WE'RE TODAY, OF COURSE YOU WERE MUCH LATER ALONG THE PROCESS, BUT YOU, THAT'S WHEN YOU GOT THAT $400,000
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU REALLY HAD TO CUT YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE
THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH? YES, SIR.
WE GOT EVERYBODY THOROUGHLY CONFUSED NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AL'S GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO AND AL I YOU DID A LOT OF WORK, UH, TO THIS POINT.
AND I'LL EMAIL Y'ALL THE, THE EFFECTS OF THE CHANGES THAT THE MADE AND I'LL EMAIL YOU, YOUR ROAD BRIDGE BUDGETS, CASH ESTIMATES, AND I YOU WITH ANY MORE QUESTIONS YOU GET THROUGH I'LL
WANT THAT TO HAPPEN? WE'LL SEE.
DID WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MR. MIN SECOND.