* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] I SPELLED IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND THE NEXT 16 TIMES THE, HE JUST, ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. WELCOME SEPTEMBER 26TH MEETING OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT. YOU'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE THAT'S, UH, PRESENT TODAY. UH, IF YOU HAVE A NEED TO ADDRESS MOMENT, UH, WE HAVE A FORM OVER THERE, UH, BY THE, UH, ON THE DESK. UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO FILL THAT OUT AND WELCOME YOUR REMARKS HERE. JUST IN, IN A FEW MOMENTS, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF GUESTS THAT WE WILL INTRODUCE A LITTLE BIT AS WE GO THROUGH, UH, OUR COURT MEETING. UH, BUT TO GO AHEAD AND START THAT, WE'LL HAVE THE INDICATION AND, UH, MR. JACKSON, WOULD YOU DO THE IMPLICATION FOR US THIS MORNING AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE TO THE AMERICAN FLAG AT THE TEXAS FLAG. SO IF YOU'LL JOIN ME, COME THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY. THANK YOU. YOUR BLESSING. WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE, RECOMMEND TO SO COURT DIRECT DECISION BEING MADE TODAY THAT IT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY AND ALSO THE CITIZEN OF, OF THE COUNTY. THEN FATHER, WE ASK YOU JUST TO OUT YOUR BLESSING ON MEN THAT ARE OVERSEAS THAT ARE PROTECTING US. WE PRAY THAT THEY A CERTAIN JOURNEY BACK HOME. AND FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THE WEATHER, THAT IT BE THE MORE COOLER AND WE'RE STILL PRAYING FOR RAIN. ALL REST. AMEN. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHICH ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL ON FLAG UNDER GOD. ONE AN INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DID ANYBODY WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, AT THIS TIME NOW THE TIME TO COME FORWARD AND DO SO? NOBODY SIGNED UP TO? OKAY. UH, WE DO, I THINK I HAVE ONE ITEM OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THAT I PUT ON THE, UH, UH, TABLE FOR YOU BEFORE YOU, UH, GOT HERE. AND THAT WAS, UH, A VERY NICE COMMENTARY THAT MICHAEL GRESHAM HAD IN, UH, YESTERDAY'S EDITION SUNDAY, SUNDAY, CAROL TRIBUNE PAPER. AND I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT SEE THAT. I APPRECIATE MICHAEL GIVING TO THAT AND CERTAINLY RECOGNIZING THE EFFORTS OF, UH, EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED IN, UH, IN GETTING OUR COUNTY, UH, WELL FISCALLY. AND I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT, IT'S GOOD TO SEE POSITIVE NOTE AT THAT TIME. CERTAINLY, UH, MIKE, DO A GOOD JOB PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA. THE FIRST IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES, AND I BELIEVE THE, UH, MINUTES THAT WE WILL APPROVE TODAY OR ACCEPT TODAY WOULD BE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER THE 12TH. UH, AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF THOSE. I BELIEVE THAT ON THE TABLE. AND WE'LL, UH, COME BACK ON THE SEPTEMBER 19TH MEETINGS. I THINK THEY MAY NEED TO BE REVISED A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, ALSO TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON RENEWING MEMBERSHIP WITH THE A-R-C-I-T AND PAYING ANNUAL VIEWS. ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVAL OF TAX RESALE OF CAUSE NUMBER 6 4 7 2 6 8 6 IN THE BOARD NASH EDITION OF COUNTY PRECINCT THREE. UH, DISCUSS AND ACT ON ESTABLISHING THE CENTRAL COUNTY STATION TO BE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM AT THE, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY ANNEX FOR ALL OF THE ELECTIONS, UH, UH, THROUGH JUNE, 2012. THAT MEETING WE'RE IN TODAY. UH, HE IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPOINTING DEPLOYED AS A PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE COUNTY STATION. ITEM F WOULD BE TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON THE CALL APPOINTING PHILLIP OSTEEN AS THE TABULATION SUPERVISOR OF THAT COUNTY STATION. AND ITEM [00:05:01] G WOULD BE TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPOINTING JODY ER AS THE ASSISTANT TO TABULATION SUPERVISOR AT THE COUNTY STATION. AND THEN ALSO ITEM H UH, WHICH WILL BE THE LAST ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING DICTATION OF DAVID BRIAN NAS JR. AS RED AS A RESERVED DEPUTY HOSPITAL IN PRECINCT ONE. ANYONE HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL OFF OR DISCUSS FURTHER BEFORE WE, UH, VOTE AGENDA? WE GONNA MAKE A NOTE EXCEPT FOR THE MINUTES ARE GONNA BE FOR THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 4TH, SEPTEMBER THE 12TH. RIGHT? I ACCEPT AGENDA. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER. DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THAT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM A, UH, YEAH, EXCEPT ACCEPT, WE'LL ACCEPT SEPTEMBER THE 12TH, BUT WE'LL WAIT ON SEPTEMBER THE 19TH. ALRIGHT. I FAILED TO MENTION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN IS NOT HERE TODAY. HE WAS HERE EARLIER, BUT HE, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN, HAS HAD SOME KNEE SURGERY ISSUES HE'S BEEN DEALING WITH AND HE, UH, HAD THE DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT THIS MORNING AND HAD TO LEAVE BEFORE WE COULD, UH, BEGIN THE REGULAR MEETING. SO HE, UH, WILL NOT NOT BE JOINING US UNLESS HE GETS THROUGH. UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I THINK JUDGE CHI WILL BE JOINING US MOMENTARILY, BUT NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, RALPH DAVIS AND, UH, RALPH AND, AND, UH, THE GROUP OF KIDS HERE AND, UH, THE OTHER COUNTY EXTENSION AGENTS ARE HERE WITH US THIS MORNING. UH, CARRIE IS BACK THERE AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, RALPH, YOU AND CARRIE AND WHOEVER WA WHO ALL INVOLVED Y'ALL WANNA COME FORWARD. AND THESE KIDS HAVE, UH, PARTICIPATED WITH US EARLY TODAY. THESE KIDS, I SAY YOUNG MEN AND YOUNG LADIES PARTICIPATED WITH US EARLIER TODAY PROVIDING VERY DELICIOUS BREAKFAST FOR US. AND, UH, WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. SO, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS COME FORWARD AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH TALKING COUNTY FOUR EIGHT. THEN RALPH, WE'LL LET YOU TALK TO US ABOUT HALL THAT MORNING. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. UM, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING TO OUR BREAKFAST THIS MORNING AND HAVING A CHANCE TO MEET AT OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM FOR THE YOUTH, UH, YOUTH COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE IN KAMAN COUNTY. UH, FIRST OFF, I'D JUST LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE TON COUNTY FOUR H PROGRAM, WE HAVE OVER 173 ADULT VOLUNTEERS, LEADERS WORKING WITH KIDS IN OUR KAUFMAN COUNTY WITH APPROXIMATELY 291 KIDS PARTICIPATING IN THE ACTIVE COMPETITION FOUR H PROGRAM. BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE ALSO REACH OUT TO OVER 13,000 YOUTH IN OUR, UH, AG IN THE CLASSROOM AND EDUCATIONAL LEARNING EXPERIENCES PROGRAM. SO WITH THAT, WORKING WITH THE TEACHERS TO PROVIDE IN SERVICE EDUCATION, PROVIDING CLUBS AND A GROUP WITH MANAGERS AND VOLUNTEER TRAINING, TRAINING, COORDINATING WITH THE YOUTH BOARDS AND OVERSEEING PARTNERSHIP TO HELP US PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE FUNCTION. THE FOUR H AND YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, I AM PROUD TO, UH, BRING TO YOU THIS MORNING OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT ACTUALLY HELPS MAKE THE KAMAN COUNTY FOUR H PROGRAM. THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE THE MOVERS AND SHAKERS AND UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF YOU ACTUALLY GOT TO HAVE A, A A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH LOOK AT MOVERS AND SHAKERS THIS MORNING WITH SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS OF THE WASHINGTON DC TRIP. BUT, UM, WITH MY, UH, LEADERSHIP TEAM, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS IS CAPTAIN MOLE. SHE IS, UH, FROM TERRELL. SHE'S OUR PRESIDENT FOR THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY YOUTH, UH, LEADERSHIP TEAM. JACOB LONG IS OUR RECREATION DIRECTOR. I CALL HIM DIRECTOR 'CAUSE HE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB AT THAT. AT RECREATION. UH, WE HAVE CASSIE BOYD, SHE'S OUR FIRST VICE PRESIDENT. NATHAN, UH STEVENS. HE'S OUR SECOND VICE PRESIDENT. MCKENZIE KRAFT, HE'S OUR TREASURER. AND CAITLYN POGGLE IS OUR SECRETARY. AND TODAY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TO LET, UH, THE THREE OF THE OFFICERS COME UP AND PRESENT TO YOU. WE'RE GETTING READY TO CELEBRATE OUR NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK IN OCTOBER, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE FEED YOU BREAKFAST EVERY YEAR. UM, BUT I'D LIKE THEM TO COME UP AND TELL YOU WHY WE'D LIKE TO CELEBRATE AND HAVE THEY PRESENT A PROCLAMATION TO YOU. GOOD MORNING, I'M PRESIDENT CATLIN AND I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL PARADE. WHEREAS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS PROUD HONOR ACHIEVE PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS AG LIFE EXTENSION SERVICE FOR HUNDRED FOUR YEARS OF PROVIDING EXPERIENCE BASED EDUCATION TO MEMBERS OF THE LONE STAR SCHOOL. AND WHEREAS THE ADMIRABLE PROGRAM WAS SHE WHO PROVIDE LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE TRIAL, INCLUDING HEAD, HEART, HANDS AND HEALTH, HELPS YOUNG TEXANS TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, DEVELOP LIFE SKILLS AND FORM ATTITUDES TO ENABLE THEM TO BECOME SELF-DIRECTED, PRODUCTIVE, AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS [00:10:01] OF OUR SOCIETY. AND WHEREAS IT'S 640,000 URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL, RURAL YOUTH PARTICIPANTS RANGING IN AGE FROM EIGHT TO 19 HEALTH AND DIVERSE ETHNIC AND SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AND TRULY REPRESENT A CROSS SECTION OF THE STATE WHILE COMAN COUNTY FOUR, EACH PROGRAM MEMBERS MORE THAN 13,254 MEMBERS. AND WHEREAS THE PROGRAM UNDOUBTEDLY COULD NOT ACHIEVE THIS SUCCESS THAT IT HAS SAY FOR IT NOT FOR THE SERVICE OF MORE THAN 33,700 VOLUNTEERS. AND COMAN COUNTY IS MORE THAN 1 76 VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE GIVEN GENEROUSLY THE TIME, TALENTS, ENERGY AND RESOURCES FOR THE YOUTH OF TEXAS. WHEREAS THROUGHOUT ITS PROUD HISTORY, THE FOUR H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED POSITIVE ROLE MODELS FOR COUNTLESS SECTIONS. AND THROUGH ITS INNOVATIVE AND INSPIRING PROGRAMS, CONTINUES TO LOOK CHARACTER TO INSTILL THE VALUES THAT HAVE MADE OUR STATE STRONG AND GREAT. NOW THEREFORE BE IT WHY. SO LADIES, UH, GENTLEMEN OF THE COURT, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO OUR, UH, PROCLAMATION AND CATLIN HAS IT FOR YOU AND YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU FROM FROM YOU TO THEM. 'CAUSE THEY'RE QUITE GOOD AT ANSWERING QUESTIONS, WHETHER IT'S AUTHENTIC OR NOT, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR I GUESS COMMENTS OR APPROPRIATE. WELL, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE DONE A FINE JOB THIS MORNING. WE APPRECIATE YOUR BREAKFAST AND UH, UH, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT FOUR H AND UH, I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL DO AND, UH, KEEP UP WITH GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE BREAKFAST THIS MORNING. APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE MYSELF, WHICH IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL. LATE AT BREAKFAST FOR S WHEN JUDGE JET WAS HERE. HE SAY THAT I WAS PROBABLY THE OLDEST PARTICIPATING FOUR H SUPPORT MEMBERS. NEXT YEAR WILL BE 50 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH FOUR H OR SUPPORTING FOUR HI DUNNO IF ANYBODY'S HERE ABOVE THAT OR NOT, BUT WAYNE WAS, HAD A FEW YEARS ON ME. THAT'S BECAUSE HE WAS QUITE OLDER GUY. YEAH, WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE REAKFAST THIS MORNING. ENJOY TALKING TO YOUNG PEOPLE, KIND TO RECREATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL, I I NEED TO ADD MY COMMENTS AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS PROCLAMATION THAT YOU PREPARED AND WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU OVER. AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S 15 TO 10 AND I THINK MOST OF Y'ALL HAVE CLASSES TO GO TO, AND IT DID SEEM TO BE, I TOLD WE WOULD HAVE TO DELAY THIS A LITTLE BIT. NOBODY ARGUED ABOUT THAT, BUT, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE WHAT THE FOUR H AND UH, CERTAINLY WHAT, UH, UH, CARRIE, YOU AND KATIE DO AS WELL AS RALPH. AND, UH, IT'S JUST GOOD TO SEE, UH, GREAT KIDS LIKE YOU ALL DOING THE THINGS THAT YOU DO. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONE ON ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY. SO AGAIN, WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE BREAKFAST AND I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER WEEK THAT , BUT I THINK WE ALL GIVE APPLAUSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW RALPH, YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND TALK TO US ABOUT, UH, PAUL? I'LL DID I I DIDN'T MEAN TO CALL YOU SHERRY. THAT'S OKAY. I DID COLD WANTS OF, I KNEW IT WAS CARRIE, BUT I GUESS I HAD TOO MUCH OR SOMETHING. WELL, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE CARBOHYDRATES, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T PROMISE YOU ALL TO HAVE A, A FACT THREE MORNING AND IT WASN'T FACT THREE, UH, UH, BREAKFAST BECAUSE YOU'RE FREE TO EAT FAT. SO, UM, BUT THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, I'M, UH, AS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE SEEN ON THE NEWS OR WHATNOT, UH, THE TEXAS COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE ROLLED OUT A PROGRAM LAST WEEK, UH, CALLED HOG OUT IN TEXAS. UH, JUDGE WOOD HAD SENT ME A FEW WEEKS AGO, UH, A THING HE GOT IN THE MAIL ABOUT THIS HOG OUT PROGRAM. AND WHAT I'M HERE TODAY FAR IS REALLY TO TALK TO YOU COMMISSIONERS TO SEE IF Y'ALL MIGHT WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. UH, WE HAD TO SEND IN A LETTER OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO. AND I DID SEND THAT IN AND IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE US TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN, BUT, BUT AS A PART OF A GRANT PROGRAM, IT HAD [00:15:01] THAT LETTER OF INTENT NEED TO BE SENT IN, UH, WHAT I GAVE YOU THIS MORNING OF THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE DID THAT STARTED THIS PROGRAM LAST YEAR AND, UH, AND THOUGHT THAT EVERYBODY WOULD JUST BUY INTO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE APPROACHING 3 MILLION FERAL HOGS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, AND TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DAMAGE DONE BEING STAY. WE ALL KNOW WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT PARALLEL HOGS. UH, HOW MANY OF THOSE 3 MILLION ARE IN CALL COUNTY? I KNOW TWO, 2 MILLION, TWO AND A HALF MILLION OF THEM. I DUNNO. WE, WE HAVE A LOT. UH, AND WE, WE KNOW THAT PARALLEL HOGS ARE ARE GAINING GROUND ON ONCE, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS, THREE WEEKS, THREE DAYS. YOU CAN DO THE MATH, GETS, GETS BIG IN A HURRY. UH, BUT THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT, UH, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE CAME UP WITH TO TRY AND, AND I THINK IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL THING AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE, BUT IT'S A GRANT PROGRAM THAT'S, UH, THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, I THINK FIVE PLACES STARTS WITH 20. THE FIRST PLACE COUNTY WILL GET $20,000 AND IT GOES RIGHT DOWN TO 7,500. UH, THAT'S NOT VERY MANY PLACES IN A STATE THAT BIG AS TEXAS WITH AS MANY COUNTIES AS WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF LOGISTICAL PROBLEMS WITH IT. THEY KIND OF JUST THREW THE MONEY OUT THERE AND SAID, DESIGN YOUR OWN PROGRAM AND, AND THEN GO BY OUR GUIDELINES WHEN YOU SEND THE GRANT PROGRAM BACK IN, YOU KNOW. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RUNS ACROSS MY MIND IS HOW DO WE COUNT HAUL? THEY GIVE YOU A HALF A POINT OR EACH HAUL, BASICALLY THEY GIVE YOU, WHAT THEY REALLY DO IS GIVE YOU FIVE POINTS FOR 10 HOS. OKAY? UH, FOR EVERY EVERY 10 HOGS YOU GET FIVE POINTS. IF SOMEBODY'S GOT CERTIFIED THAT THESE HOGS HAVE BEEN KILLED, BASICALLY. OKAY. UH, THERE'S NO CENTRAL PLACE IN THIS COUNTY THAT REALLY WORKS. UH, OUR OUR BOSSES HAVE TOLD US THEY REALLY DON'T WANT BE BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY AGENT'S OFFICE. YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN SEE THE ANIMAL RIGHTS THINGS, UH, THAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THAT. UH, IT JUST KIND OF A MESS. I CAN, IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK AT OUR OFFICE. AT I, I TALKED TO, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING, UH, LAST WEEK, WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE LAST ABOUT THIS AND JUST KIND OF GETTING THE FEEL OF COULD WE BRING 'EM TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, YOUR BARN OR WHATNOT AND HAVE SOMEBODY AT YOUR BARNS TO CERTIFY THESE HOGS. IF WE CAN GET THE PUBLIC INTERESTED IN DOING THIS, WHICH IS THE REAL BIG THING IS GETTING, GETTING PUBLIC INTERESTED, DESIGN A, UH, UM, AN ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN PART. WE CAN DO THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. I HAVE A FERAL HALL PROGRAM ALREADY SET UP FOR DECEMBER THAT HISTORICALLY WILL HAVE 125 TO 150 PEOPLE AT IT. WE GET ONE POINT FOR EVERY PERSON THAT COMES TO EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM, UH, WHETHER, WHETHER WE'LL GIVE THE AMOUNT OF NEED TO, TO BE IN THAT TOP FIVE COUNTIES OR NOT IS A, IS A REAL GOOD QUESTION. WE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH COUNTIES THAT HAVE HELICOPTERS. ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER STAPLES BIG ROLLOUT THING. THE HELICOPTER THEY, UH, CONTROLLING THROUGH HOG HELICOPTER, WHICH WE CAN'T FEASIBLY DO. CAUSE COUNTY. UH, SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS HOW DO WE COUNT HOGS? DO WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN, UH, AT ALL? IS IT WORTH OUR MANPOWER, UH, RESOURCES TO DO THAT? THE GRANTS ARE ACTUALLY REIMBURSABLE GRANTS FOR EXPENDITURES THAT YOU PUT OUT. IF YOU READ, READ THE GUIDELINES, I DON'T MIND WRITING. THE GRANT HAS TO BE IN BY JANUARY 15TH. I THINK I MIND DOING THAT ONCE THE OVER WITH, BUT IT'S KIND OF Y'ALL. THAT'S MY QUESTION TO Y'ALL TODAY. YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE IN IT HELP DESIGN? I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, BRING A BUNCH OF DEAD HOGS OVER THE PRECINCT TOO IS GONNA FLY VERY WELL FOR US TO COUNT. I'D BE GLAD TO COME AND COUNT 'EM FOR YOU SOMEWHERE. YES. BUT THE EDUCATION PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, EDUCATING PEOPLE HOW TO CONTROL THE HOGS. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ANYWAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING DO THAT ANYWAY. WE STARTED DOING, UH, THE, THE, UH, COMMISSIONER COURT GAVE US A LITTLE MONEY LAST YEAR TO BUY SOME TRAPS WITH, WE HAVE 'EM OUT OF COURSE. ONE, I'VE TRIED TO PUT ONE UP FOR THREE MONTHS AND GROUNDS TOO HARD TO DRIVE TPO. UH, ONE OF OUR REAL PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW. BUT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO FERAL HOG PROGRAMS EVERY YEAR. I'M GONNA HAVE TWO OR THREE BARREL HOG PROGRAMS, [00:20:02] WHETHER TBA PAY FOR OR NOT. WE WE'RE GONNA DO IT. I HAD VISITED WITH RALPH, UH, A COUPLE TIMES OVER THIS PROGRAM AND, UH, WHEN HE FIRST MENTIONED THIS TO ME, I WAS REALLY FIRED UP AT IT BECAUSE BEING THE LARGEST PRECINCT AND, UH, PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST PIGS IN THE COUNTY, UH, I'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING TO, TO, UH, MITIGATE THAT DAMAGE. WELL, HE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THAT AND UH, UH, I ABOUT DECIDED THE SAME AS RAY IS, UH, MAYBE BRINGING A PICKUP LOAD OF PIGS OR A HALF A PICKUP LOAD OF PIGS INTO THE COUNTY BARN MIGHT NOT BE THE, THE, UH, MOST, UH, PRUDENT THING TO DO. SO, UH, I HAD THAT DECIDED THAT I'D JUST GO OUT AND COUNT 'EM OR, OR IF I WASN'T IN TOWN OR SOMETHING, UH, MIGHT POSSIBLY GET ONE OF MY, I ASKED MY SUPERVISORS THIS MORNING IF THEY PARTICIPATE AND THEY SAID THEY'D WILLING TO GO OUT ON THEIR OWN TIME ON THE WEEKEND AND COUNT PIG. WHAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT WAS DOCUMENTATION AS FAR AS, I MEAN, WILL, WILL, UH, WILL MY WORD OR MY SUPERVISOR'S WORD STAND AS FAR AS HE GOES OUT AND COUNTS HALF DOES PIGS PICK THE OWNER DOES WHAT THEY WANT DO. IN OTHER WORDS, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY BE ANY, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANY PHYSICAL PROOF AS WE THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT IS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT. THEY, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OUR WORK FOR. RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE TO SIGN ANY, DO NOT HAVE TO SIGN ANY DOCUMENTATION. EVERY COUNTY CAN DESIGN THEIR OWN PROGRAM. UH, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OUR WORDS, MARK THAT, THAT SOMEBODY HAS SEEN AND HEAR. YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN CUT EARS OFF OF HOWEVER YOU WANNA PHYSICALLY LOOK AT BIG OR WHATEVER, UH, TO, TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE DEAD. I MEAN, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. THIS CANNOT BE A CATCH AND RELEASE PROGRAM. THEY, THESE CALLS HAVE TO BE SLOWER. RIGHT. LEMME ASK YOU THIS, THE AMOUNT OF LOG WE HAVE HERE, UH, THE TRAP THAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ENOUGH TRAPS SERVICE THAT WE HAVE. ABSOLUTELY NOT. BUT NO, THE TRAPS THAT I HAVE ARE STRICTLY DESIGNED FOR AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. OKAY. NUMBER ONE. AND I LIKE THE METHOD THAT WE DO, BUT IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S TIME CONSUMING. IT'S EXTREMELY TIME CONSUM AND, UH, THEY HAVE TO PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO, UH, INTO DOING WHAT WE DO. UH, YOU KNOW, FROM TALKING TO COMMISSIONER , WE'RE GONNA HAVE PROBABLY MORE LUCK WITH THE PEOPLE THAT'S GOT A RIFLE THAT'LL GO OUT AND ACTUALLY SHOOT DOGS. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO CONTROL IT. UH, BUT, UH, BUT PROBABLY IN CA COUNTY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON . THESE TENS COST A THOUSAND DOLLARS A PIECE. SO, SO THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY CHEAP, YOU KNOW, UH, WE GOT, WE HAVE THREE OF THEM FOR THE COUNTY. GLEN HELP YOU PURCHASE IN THAT KIND OF, THEY, THEY WILL. I MEAN, IF WE WERE TO WIN THOSE FUNDS, THEY CAN BE USED TO PURCHASE MATERIAL. UH, SOME MATERIAL, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE BUYING. YOU HAVE TO GET PDA'S PERMISSION BEFORE YOU BUY, YOU GOTTA TAKE IN ALL THOSE THINGS. THE GRANT APPLICATION ITSELF, YOU GOTTA HAVE RECEIPTS. YOU HAVE TO DOCUMENT YOUR TIME. THE, THE FUNDS ALSO CAN BE USED FOR TRAVEL. THEY CAN BE USED FOR, IF YOU WANT TO HIRE SOMEBODY ON PART-TIME BASIS THAT CAN BE USED FOR SALARIES, UH, AND THAT KIND OF THING TOO. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY SPEND ALL THAT MONEY NOT GETTING BACK FROM YOU MAY NOT BE ONE. THE TOP FIVE. I, I'D ALSO, UH, DISCUSSED WITH RALPH FIRST PART OF LAST WEEK. HE MENTIONED THIS PROGRAM TO ME ABOUT, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO. I PROBABLY FIRST PART OF LAST WEEK, OF COURSE, AS SOON AS HE MENTIONED IT TO ME, I STARTED GOING TO MY CONSTITUENTS. UH, I STARTED TALKING TO HIM ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU FEEL PIG, BRING 'EM INTO THE, TO THE COUNTY BARN AND LET ME COUNT 'EM. AND UH, THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE THAT I GOT WAS, UH, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A HANDLE ON THESE PIGS IS PUT A B IN, YOU KNOW, AND I ASKED RALPH IF THIS MONEY COULD BE USED AS A BOUNTY AND IT CANNOT BE. AND UH, OF COURSE THE WAY I THINK IS, WELL, I, I GET BUSY AND FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO RAISE SOME MONEY WHERE WE CAN START OUT MAYBE PUTTING A BOUN ON IT. WELL, I HAVEN'T COME UP WITH THAT YET, BUT I'M STILL WORKING ON IT. BUT, UH, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE OVERWHELMING COMMENTS [00:25:01] THAT I GET FROM ALL MY PEOPLE BECAUSE FOLKS DON'T WANNA DRIVE FROM LIVELY ALL THE WAY TO THE COUNTY BARN. THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT MIGHT HELP IF I JUST VOLUNTEER TO GO OUT AND COUNT THOSE PIG, UH, TO KEEP SOMEBODY FROM, FROM DRIVING ALL THE WAY INTO THE COUNTY BARN COUNTY. ANYWAY. WELL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON IT ANY WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT IF YOU THINK WE CAN GET A HANDLE ON THEM. WELL, I SAY LET'S, LET'S TRY, I MEAN, OKAY. WELL IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T COST MUCH OR TAKE MUCH TIME TO DESIGN THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM, WHICH WE ALREADY KIND OF HAVE ON GOING BILLY BALL, OUR WILDLIFE SPECIALIST COMING TO DO A PROGRAM. LIKE I SAID IN DECEMBER, UH, THE ADVERTISING IS JUST A MATTER OF DRAWING FLYERS, SENDING IT OUT MOST OF THE TIME. SO WE CAN DO THAT TOO. AND RIGHT. I KNOW RALPH, YOU'RE HAVING HAY SHOVEL HERE BARELY SOON. AND THAT'D BE A GREAT PLACE TO ADVERTISE. WE'RE GONNA ADVERTISE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. THE MEDIA I'M SURE WILL HELP US GET THIS OUT TOO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE I'VE GOT A COUPLE IN THAT ARE COMING UP FAIRLY. WE ALL OF THOSE AS FAR AS AN OFFICIAL AND A PLACE SINCE COMMISSIONER IS NOT HERE, YOU COULD PERHAPS, I'M JUST, I'M NOT TOUCHING THAT THAT UP JUST IN CASE ANYBODY TAKE WOULD BE THE THING FOR ME. I MEAN, ON THE ADVERTISING PART OF IT, HOW DO I TELL THEM HOW TO GET THEIR CERTIFIED? THAT'S THE BIG THING. TELL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER CONTACT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND NELSON CERTIFIED ALL DID CALL OFFICER. I THINK JUST CONTACT EACH COMMISSIONER. OKAY. I SOMEONE OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I HAVE ONE GUY, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, I HAD ONE GUY TELL ME LAST, I HAD LUNCH WITH HIM LAST TUESDAY AND HE'S A LOCAL AND HE SAID IT WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM FOR HIM TO KILL 50 HOGS A WEEK. AND HE SAID THERES A BOUNTY ON THAT. HE WOULD ACT, ACTUALLY GET OUT THERE AND SPEND HIS TIME, YOU KNOW, REALLY TRYING TO KILL HIM. AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT KIND OF BOUNTY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HE SAID, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR 10 BUCKS A PIECE WOULD BE PLENTY. SO, AND OF COURSE THAT'S GONNA RUN INTO A TON OF MONEY, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD START OUT WITH, WITH A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS AND PAY MAIL TILLER RENT OUT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY BUY BULLETS AND LITTLE GAS. I, I DO KNOW THAT VAN COUNTY TRIED A FEW YEARS AGO AND UH, I THINK THE PROGRAM WENT FOR TWO MONTHS. I MEAN, THEY WERE OUT MONEY TWO, THEY DID HAVE 'EM BRING THE HOGS TO THE COUNTY EXTENSION AGENT'S OFFICE COUNTY. THAT, THAT GOT TO BE A NIGHTMARE. BUT THIS ANYTHING, ANY PROGRAM WE DO, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT WAS FOR COLTON COUNTY RESIDENCE YES. IN WORDS, WE NEED TO CHECK THE VEHICLE BILL, WHATEVER, WHATEVER TOO. UH, SO ANYBODY THAT COMES IN FROM OUTTA COUNTY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE WE GONNA CHECK, LEMME ASK YOU, WE JUST GO OUT THERE AND COUNT ANYTHING. NO. THAT TO ME, THE DISPOSING OF THEM WOULD BE UP TO THE, THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK HOME. THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM. ALSO. OF COURSE, NOW, NOW TDA HAS DISPOSABLE AREAS WITH, WE HAVE A GUY, UH, HE ACTUALLY LIVES IN, HE WORKS AT THE END SCHOOL BOARD, BUT RIGHT JUST OVER THE COUNTY LINE SOUTH OF ROSSER. THERE'S A COLLECTION STATION THERE. THEY WANT TO CATCH EM ALIVE. THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH OURS. WE CAUGHT, WE LOADED IN THE TRAILER, TOOK THEM DOWN THERE, UH, AND HE TOOK THEM. HE'S A DE DESIGNATED DA GUY. THERE'S GUY IN RY SAME WAY. AND I DON'T MIND COORDINATING THAT. WANTS TO CATCH A CARRY AND GET A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BACK. THEY DON'T GIVE YOU MUCH. WE HAVE A LOT OF THE COUNTY. ALRIGHT, OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM? CONSENSUS IN, WE DON'T, DO WE NEED TO TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION ON THIS? I DON'T THINK SO. IT'S JUST, YEAH, I, WE DON'T HAVE, THAT'S WE ADVERTISE IT IS, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. YOU KEEP US INFORMED. OKAY. PROCESS. I CERTAINLY INCREASING PROBLEM [00:30:01] FOR COUNTY, I GUESS, BUT, UH, IT CERTAINLY IS HERE AND IT BECOMES A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHWAY END. THIS LITTLE DISCUSSION THAT, THAT THIS, UH, PROGRAM STARTS OCTOBER 1ST, 2011 AND WE'LL END THROUGH DECEMBER, WILL END DECEMBER 31ST, 2011. SO IF Y'ALL PLEASE PUT THAT IN COLLECTION HOGS. YES. SO IT STARTS, IT STARTS SATURDAY Y'ALL. DID Y'ALL GIVE A COPY OF UHHUH? I GOT IT. I JUST DIDN'T SEE THE, THE IT THERE, IT ALL RIGHT. IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S EASY TO KIND OF LAUGH ABOUT, BUT IT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM AND IT'S CAUSING LOTS OF DAMAGE ACROSS THE COUNTY. PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. TRY ERADICATION, BUT THAT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE. RIGHT. ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS, UH, DESIREE POOL. DESIREE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A RESOLUTION TO JOIN THE TEXAS INDIGENT HEALTHCARE ASSOCIATION USED AND TO APPOINT DESIREE AS COUNTY COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE TO THE ASSOCIATION. SO I DIDN'T GIVE YOU ONE OF THOSE THE OTHER DAY, BUT YOU ALREADY HAD IT. OKAY. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE NEATER PACKET THERE FOR YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, THE TEXAS INGEN UH, HEALTHCARE ASSOCIATION IS BASICALLY WHAT IT IS. IT'S A VOICE FOR CHAPTER 61, WHICH THAT'S WHAT I FALL UNDER. UM, IT'S, UM, WHAT THEY DO, WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT, IT'LL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATOR HAS TO SAY, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH INDIGENT HEALTHCARE AND HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE COUNTY. UM, THEIR MEMBERSHIP DUES ARE $200. UM, THEY'RE HAVING A CONFERENCE IN NOVEMBER THAT I'M, I WANT TO ATTEND. UM, IT'S $105 IF I GET THE MEMBERSHIP. NOW, IF I WAIT TILL OCTOBER THE 15TH, IT'S GONNA GO UP TO 35. BUT IT'S GONNA GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. UM, I HAD A SITUATION ONE TIME, COMMISSIONER CLARK CAME TO ME AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS. AND SO I HAD TO GET OUT THERE AND RESEARCH ON IT. AND, UH, BUT THIS RIGHT HERE WILL GIMME A HEADS UP ON IT, WHAT'S GOING ON BEFORE, UM, POSSIBLY Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THAT WAY I HAVE THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS BEFORE ANYTHING. SO, UM, BUT YEAH, I'M REAL EXCITED. A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE WENT TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS, UH, IT'S, WE LEARNED A LOT FROM IT. BUT IF YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER OF THIS MEETING, UH, OF THIS, UH, ASSOCIATION, YOU DON'T GET TO ATTEND THE REST OF IT. AND YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE A SAY AND YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE A VOTE ON WHAT THEY PROCEED WITH. AND SO I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UM, ASSOCIATION 'CAUSE IT'LL GIVE US, GIVE KAMAN COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS. WELL, NOT ON THE EDUCATION PART. YES. HUGE IN THE NETWORK THAT YOU DO WITH OTHER PEOPLE, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE BENEFITS OF THAT. YES. YES, SIR. UH, AND SAVED US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY ALREADY. I THINK VERY EFFORT. SO IT'S IMPORTANT I, FOR RESEARCHING FORMS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE STAY EXTREMELY ON TOP OF. AND THIS COULD BE A BEDROOM. THEY CAN DO SOME STUFF COMING OUTTA AUSTIN THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY WIPE OUT ALL THE GAIN WE'VE MADE THIS PAST YEAR IN ONE WITH THE WHOLE BAND HALF. SO WE'VE GOTTA STAY ON TOP OF THIS AND I'M VERY GLAD THAT SHE'S ONE, BE MORE INVOLVED IN WHAT'S GOING ON. YES. LIKE I SAID, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THE EDUCATION, BUT IN YOUR PROGRAM AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO THE COUNTY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. MAKE MOTION THE MOTION. SECOND, COMMISSIONER MANNY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU. NOW JUDGE CHI I KNOW HAS A TRIAL GOING ON OR A SELECTION OF A JURY, AND SO HE'S, UH, STEPPED OUT FOR A FEW MOMENTS AND BROUGHT HIS, UH, VERY CAPABLE STAFF WITH US. AND, UH, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION. AND HERE'S PROCLAMATION FOR YOU GUYS AS WELL AS A NEWS RELEASE. GO. AND I'LL BE VERY PLEASED TO READ THIS AND, UH, ASK THE JUDGE TO [00:35:01] SEE IF HE HAS ANY COMMENTS. JUDGE. YES, SIR. WE ENJOYED COMMISSIONER CLARK AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME OVER AND, AND PARTICIPATE IN YOUR MOST RECENT HONOR THE OTHER NIGHT. AND SO WE HAVE PREPARED THIS PROCLAMATION AND, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO READ IT. UH, AND I WILL READ IT IF YOU WANT ME TO. UH, WE'VE GOT EXTRA COPIES UP HERE AS WELL, BUT I THINK I WILL JUST TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT BECAUSE THIS WAS A VERY IMPRESSIVE CEREMONY, UH, THAT WAS HELD IN ONE OF THE BIG TALL BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. AND I CAN TESTIFY THEY HAD EXCELLENT THAT EVENING AS WELL. SO, WHICH IS REALLY THE MAIN REASON I WENT ACTUALLY, BUT NO, NOT, NOT NOT THE CASE. BUT LET ME, LET ME READ THIS TO YOU. WHEREAS ON, UH, JANUARY 29TH, UH, 2004 B MICHAEL CHI WAS APPOINTED BY GOVERNOR RICK PERRY TO SERVE AS THE FIRST JUDGE OF THE DUTY CREATED 422ND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS. HE WAS ELECTED TO A FOUR YEAR TERM IN NOVEMBER OF 2004 AND REELECTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2008. WHEREAS IN MAY, 2008, JUDGE CHITTY WAS THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER AT THE 22ND ANNUAL TEXAS JAIL ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE, ADDRESSING THE TOPIC OF MENTAL ILLNESS AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE. JUDGE CHITTY IS THE KAUFMAN COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR COLLIN DALLAS, DALLAS ELLIS HUNT, KAUFMAN NAVARRA, AND ROCKWALL COUNTY. SHE'S PRESENTLY SERVING HIS FOURTH TERM AS CHAIRMAN OF THAT BOARD. AND WHEREAS DURING HIS SERVICE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY BOARD, JUDGE CHITTY HAS BROUGHT LEADERSHIP AND FOCUS TO THE BOARD. IT WAS AT HIS SUGGESTION THAT MENTAL HEALTH AMERICA CONVENE THE LEGISLATIVE STEERING COMMITTEE TO UNITE, UNITE THE LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY EFFORTS OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ADVOCATES AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THE SEVEN COUNTY REGION. AND WHEREAS JUDGE CHITTY HAS BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR PUBLIC MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, PERSONALLY VISITING LEGISLATORS AND EDUCATING THEM ON THE COST EFFECTIVENESS OF FUNDING FOR TREATMENT, HE WAS ESPECIALLY HELPFUL IN ADVOCATING WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ON BEHALF OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND WHEREAS JUDGE CHEY HAS INITIATED THE FIRST MENTAL HEALTH COURT IN KAMAN COUNTY AND HAS DILIGENTLY WORKED TO INVOLVE NEW COMMUNITY PARTNERS IN PROVIDING A SUPPORT NETWORK AND PEER OF SERVICES TO HELP THE PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESSES, HIS COURT IN HIS COURT TO HAVE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES. WHEREAS AS THE 2011 PRISM AWARD, UH, CEREMONY, JUDGE CHITTY WAS AWARDED THE CARMEN MILLER MICHAEL MENTAL HEALTH ADVOCATE AWARD BY MENTAL HEALTH AMERICA OF GREATER DALLAS, WHOSE MISSION IS TO ADVOCATE FOR IMPROVED CARE AND TREATMENT OF PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS CON CONDUCT THE EDUCATION AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS, AND RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS THAT I'LL THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVE THAT THE COURT HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR JUDGE B MICHAEL CHI FOR RECEIVING THE CARMEN MILLER MICHAEL MENTAL HEALTH ADVOCATE AWARD FOR HIS SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO IMPROVING THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WITNESS THEREOF. I HEREBY FIX MY SIGNATURE ON THIS, THE 26TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2011, BRUCE WOOD KAUFMAN COUNTY JUDGE. AND THIS IS A TRULY GREAT HONOR. WE REALLY, UH, UH, THE, THE CEREMONY WAS MOST IMPRESSIVE THE OTHER NIGHT. THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT GOT AN AWARD, BUT IT WAS, UH, MIKE'S AWARD WAS ONE OF THE TOP AWARDS THAT WAS GIVEN THAT NIGHT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE HIM FOR NOT ONLY THIS AWARD, BUT FOR HIS EFFORTS TO SERVE THE FOLKS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY THAT NEED THE SERVICES OF MENTAL HEALTH, UH, THAT WE'VE, OR THAT HE'S ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. MAY WISH TO. WELL, LET ME JUST VERY BRIEFLY SAY THAT, UH, UH, WHEN I WAS APPOINTED TO THE BENCH BACK IN JANUARY OH FOUR, UM, IMMEDIATELY STARTED SEEING PEOPLE COMING BEFORE THE COURT WHO HAD MENTAL ILLNESSES AND REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A COMPREHENSION OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND, UH, WE WOULD SEND THEM OFF FOR COMPETENCY RESTORATION. THEY WOULD COME BACK, UH, AFTER A FEW WEEKS AT VERNON OR BIG SPRING AND, UH, [00:40:01] START DECOMPENSATING IMMEDIATELY. SO IT BECAME PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING, UH, TO, UH, PROVIDE A MORE FUNDAMENTALLY FAIR, UH, PROCEEDING AND A MORE JUST OUTCOME FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY WHO DO SUFFER MENTAL ILLNESSES OR, UH, CHEMICAL DEPENDENCIES, DRUG ADDICTIONS. AND SO, UM, UH, I STARTED WORKING, UH, WELL NUMBER ONE, I STARTED COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S ALWAYS A MISTAKE IN GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IF YOU START COMPLAINING, SOMEBODY WILL APPOINT YOU TO A BOARD. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. THE COMMISSIONERS APPOINTED ME TO THE NORTH TEXAS BE HEALTH AUTHORITY AS THE CAMAN COUNTY REP. AND, UH, I SERVED A COUPLE OF YEARS ON THAT BOARD AND THEN WAS ELECTED CHAIRMAN AND HAVE NOW SERVED FOUR TERMS AS CHAIRMAN. UH, BUT IT IS THROUGH THE JOINT EFFORTS OF MANY PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THAT THIS PROGRAM THAT WE INSTITUTED IN THE FOUR 22ND HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. SHERIFF BURNS HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. EVERYONE I'VE DEALT WITH HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT SUPPORTIVE. SO, UM, UH, ALL OF YOU SHARE IN THIS HONOR THAT, UH, MHA DALLAS BESTOWED ON ME AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HELP. JANIE, MATT ZINGER IS HERE FROM MENTAL HEALTH AMERICA. JANIE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? WELL, WE JUST VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON IN KALIN COUNTY RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH, AND SURELY JUDGE CHITTY IS A LEADER IN THAT WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DO, UH, IN, IN THIS REGARD. IT'S, UH, THIS, THIS COURT IS REALLY A STEP FORWARD FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESSES, BUT ALSO FOR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. BECAUSE WHEN A PERSON WITH MENTAL ILLNESS GETS INTO RECOVERY AND IS TAKING THEIR MEDICATION ON A REGULAR BASIS AND HAS THE OTHER SUPPORT SERVICES, EVERYBODY'S DOING BETTER. AND THIS REALLY, UH, NOT ONLY IS THIS A GOOD OUTCOME FOR THE DEFENDANT, IT'S A GOOD OUTCOME FOR THE COUNTY ALSO BECAUSE YOU AVOID, UH, THE EXPENSE OF INCARCERATION. UH, IT'S THE HUMANE THING TO DO. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IT'S THE SMART THING TO DO. SO, UH, I APPLAUD THE COUNTY AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, DA'S OFFICE, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS PARTICIPATED. IT REALLY IS THE BEST PATH TO TAKE. UH, WE DON'T NEED TO BE TAKING UP PRISON BEDS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PREDATORY AND NOT VIOLENT AND SUFFER FROM, UH, AN ILLNESS THAT SHOULD BE TREATED, NOT RESULT IN INCARCERATION. SO I WANT THANK ALL YOU. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY STAFF WHO CAME OVER. JENNIFER SIRAT, WHO'S MY COURT COORDINATOR, DONNA GALE, MY COURT REPORTER. THEY BOTH HAVE JUDGE. THANK YOU. WELL, WE'VE GOT A VOTE YET. I'M NOT SURE WE CAN GET THIS THROUGH . YOU'VE HEARD THE RESOLUTION, YOU'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS, AND UH, AND CERTAINLY IT WAS A GREAT HONOR FOR JUDGE CHINEY, BUT ALSO I THINK SPOKE HIGHLY OF TON COUNTY. WELL, WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY AS WELL. SO I WOULD ENTERTAIN IF YOU SO APPROVE AND AGREE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, UH, APPROVE THIS, UH, UH, RESOLUTION AS THAT READ SO MAY MR. JACKSON MAKES THAT MOTION. SECOND MR. MANNING SECONDS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SAID I'M RATHER PROUD OF MACK OR JUDGE CHENEY. EXCUSE ME. UH, USUALLY WHEN SOME, WHEN ELECTED EFFICIENCY BE MAKING THE NEWS, IT'S NOT A GOOD THING. CAMAN COUNTY IS VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOMEBODY, YOUR STATUTE OF YOUR, UH, DEDICATION TO DO THIS FOR US. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. BUT TO KEEP THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, WE SPENT 30 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT KILLING WILD HOGS AND 10 MINUTES ON YOUR RECOGNITION . BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU NOT, NOT BY LYING OF IT, VERY, VERY D AWARD. OTHER THAN THAT. AND I WAS EXTREMELY PROUD OF KAMAN COUNTY AND HAVING YOU AS ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK JUDGE. THANK YOU JUDGE. THANK YOU JUDGE. JURY TRIAL. I THINK YOU NEED TO GET BACK. YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO MY JURY. OKAY, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LADIES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. SAY AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHTY. UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS, UH, TREASURER JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN WHO, UH, TALKED TO US ABOUT AUTHORIZING TO MAINTAIN THE TEXAS COUNTY AND DISTRICT RETIREMENT SYSTEM PLAN PROVISION FOR PLAN YEAR 2012, WHICH I BELIEVE STARTS JANUARY. THAT EVERY UH, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO APPROVE LAND. THEY GIVE US A PERCENT WE'LL BE PAYING IN AND Y'S CHOICE TO A COST OF LIVING INCREASE. AND, UH, I GUESS OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT DUE ON THIS YEAR. COST [00:45:01] OF LIVING INCREASE WILL, WILL AFFECT ALL RETIREES OF RETIREMENT BEFORE LAST JANUARY. IT'S NOT A ONETIME DEAL. THAT NUMBER STATE S ONGOING EXTENSION. SO WE, THAT WAS LAST WEEK, 2009. MY RECOMMENDATION IS NOT APPROVED ON THIS YEAR. LOOK AT NEXT YEAR ANSWER BETTER SHAPE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR JOHNNY THIS IS KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ON OTHER COUNTY, UH, BUSINESSES. IT'S JUST A TOUGH TIME AND UH, BUT IT'S, UH, IT WENT UP ANYWAY. YEAH, I, WE AUTHORIZE MR. COUNTRYMAN TO MAINTAIN OUR PROVISIONS, MAKE MOTION THAT MAINTAIN PROVISIONS AS PROVIDED, PRESENTED BY UH, JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN OF TREASURER. WE HAVE A SECOND SEVEN. COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AND THEN JOHNNY, YOU ALSO HAVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO THE COUNTY TREASURER. YOU HAVE YOUR REPORT THERE. REALLY? IT'S THE SAME REPORT I GAVE YOU VERBALLY TOLD YOU TIME LAST YEAR. THE NUMBERS IN WRITING CASH IN GOOD SHAPE. JUDGE WOODS TELL EVERYTH MEETING. WE HAVE, WE WENT TO ARGUMENT YEAR. I DON'T, I WE CAN'T, I HAVE, HE SAID TOO MANY TIMES WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, WILL BE GIVING US ANOTHER REPORT HERE A FEW DAYS. WE WOUND UP A YEAR TIME TO THAT. WE SAID SEPTEMBER CAN BE BAD. WE HAVE, WE MOTION, MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURY REPORT FOR AUGUST, 2011. AND WE SET SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND SAID DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON SUPPORTING TON COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSIONS SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR TEXAS PRESERVATION PLACE, THE POOL FARM ON TEXAS'S MOST ENDANGERED LIST. AND WE ARE HONORED THIS MORNING TO HAVE, UH, WHO'S PRESIDENT OF LOCAL ORGANIZATION HERE AND TWO, THREE OTHER FOLKS I KNOW THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL HISTORICAL COMMISSION. SO WE'RE GLAD TO CAME WITH US AND JUST TELL US, UH, WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT. OKAY. PRESERVATION TEXAS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC TEXAS LANDMARKS, BUILDINGS, SITES, AND EACH YEAR PRESERVATION TEXAS NAMES ABOUT FOUR SITES TO TEXAS MOST ENDANGERED PLACES LIST. THERE IS NO MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS PUTS, UM, IF WE WERE NAMED TO TEXAS MOST ENDANGERED PLACES LIST, IT WOULD GIVE US ACCESS TO CORPORATE SPONSORS AND OTHER MONIES. PEOPLE WHO LOOK FOR PLACES TO PUT THEIR MONEY TO SUPPORT. WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE PLACE IN THE POOR FARM THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE POOR FORM IS ACTUALLY THE LAST POOR FARM OWNED BY THE COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, PERHAPS IN THE NATION. 'CAUSE WE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM THE, UH, SOMEONE AT, AT STATE CONGRESS. THEY WERE LOOKING TO REMOVE A LAW FROM THE BOOKS THAT RELATED TO POOR FOX IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEY CALLED US BECAUSE WE HAD THE LAST ONE, THE BOOKS AND DECIDED NOT THROUGH THEM THAT FOR THAT REASON. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT'S OUT THERE AT THE POOR FARM, BUT NOT MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IS THAT THE ORIGINAL COURTHOUSE FOR COUNTY IS ACTUALLY STILL OUT THERE AT THE POOR FARM IN A VERY POOR STATE OF REPAIR. BUT IT STANDS THAT IT EXISTS OUT THERE. AND IF, UM, WHAT WE HOPE MR. GET DESIGNATED AS ONE OF TEXAS' MOST ENDANGERED PLACES WITH PRESERVATION TEXAS, SO THAT WE MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THEIR CORPORATE SPONSORS AND FUNDING AND GET SOME RESTORATION DONE OUT THERE. BECAUSE WE'LL QUICKLY LOSING SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME INTERPRETER TRAILS AND KIOSK OUT THERE SO THAT WE COULD CHANGE OUT INFORMATION ON THESE KIOSK. GIVE INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE OF CONA COUNTY. WE'RE OUT THERE WITH THE VETERANS PARK WITH THE WALL, AND THIS IS A WONDERFUL ASSET THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE FOR CONA COUNTY. A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE TO GO AND LEARN ABOUT THEIR HISTORY. BUT WE REALLY NEED FUNDING IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WHAT IT COULD BE [00:50:01] AND RESTORE IT AS IT SHOULD BE. SO WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU, WE NEED THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND ONE OF THEM WE WOULD LIKE TO BE FROM YOU SUPPORTING THIS AS A WORTHWHILE EFFORT AND A PLACE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE RESTORED. AND SO THAT WE COULD BE DESIGNATED AS ONE OF TEXAS MOST ENDANGERED PLACES WITH PRESERVATION OF TEXAS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE SEEK FROM YOU, THE COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WOULD LIKE TO, IT'S, IT'S AN INTERESTING PLACE TO GO VISIT. IT IS. YES. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR DO YOU ANYTHING TO ADD? WE NEED THIS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET ONE THING THAT THIS WILL DO GIVES US A LOT OF MEDIA ATTENTION AND WE'LL GET STATEWIDE ATTENTION. WE, I MEAN WE'VE TRIED AS VOLUNTEERS TO DO ALL THIS WITH NO FUNDING IN ALL THESE YEARS AND WE STILL, WE DON'T REALLY NEED MONEY. WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF IT AND WHY WE NEED TO BE AT THE CITY. I'VE ALWAYS ADVOCATED THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE COUNTY. IT, IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE REGION REALLY AS FAR AS ECONOMIC, UH, VARIOUS TOURISM CONCERNED. SO I'M GONNA BE ON A CRUSADE TO GO AROUND. WE THE, UH, UH, WAS IT ALLIANCE CLUB AT COFFIN? MARY KAY, I'M SORRY. YEAH, WE UH, YOU MAY RUN THAT, UH, PRESENTATION ALLIANCE CLUB RECENTLY THANKS TO JOHNNY INVITED US DO THAT. SO WE PRESENT THERE AND I'M GONNA BE ON A CRUSADE AGAINST, ON EVERY PROGRAM IN THE WHOLE AREA TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THIS. WE HAVE DISCUSSION NOW IN OUR DEPRESSION STATE. THIS COUNTY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A POOR FARM FOR OUR INDIGENT IF WE WANTED TO, RIGHT. PROBABLY IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER AS A MUSEUM OR HISTORICAL PARK FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF HOW PEOPLE DEALT WITH DEPRESSION BACK IN THOSE DAYS. AND WE HAVE HISTORY AND DEMONSTRATIONS AND EVERYTHING. WE CAN CERTAINLY TELL THE WAY IT'S, WE HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN SAFELY GO AND STEP UP. SO THIS IS JUST ONE STEP IN GETTING THE WORD OUT TO THE REST OF THE STATE WHAT WE HAVE. THANK WOULD APPRECIATE IT. LETTER. ALRIGHT, WOULD YOU WAIT JUST A MOMENT? AND JAMIE, I WANT YOU TO COME UP JUST TO THE SECOND. WELL, AFTER WE DO THIS, I WANNA KIND OF PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE JUST FOR US TO START THINKING ABOUT NOT TAKING ACTION ON THE COURSE, BUT, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT DESIGNATING, UH, THE AS ONE TEXAS' MOST? YES, SIR. TO DESERVE THIS. YOU PUT THAT IN FORM OF MOTION. YES SIR. PUT FORM THANK COMMISSIONER JACKSON MOVES THAT WE, UH, SUBMIT THIS ALONG WITH. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WITH THE LETTER. YOU NEED ALL THE COMMISSION TO SIGN ON. YES, PLEASE. WE WORK WITH THAT. WE, MEANING ANGIE WILL GET HELP GET THAT DONE. MAY THEY REQUEST ORIGINAL SIGNATURE. SO WE DO, WE'LL JUST NEED TO COMMUNICATE, COORDINATE THAT AMONG US. SO HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, HERE'S, UH, I MENTIONED THIS TO JAMIE JUST OUT IN THE HALL AND UH, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING FOR US TO DO, IT'S JUST KIND OF COMMUNICATION THING AND IT'LL INVOLVE OBVIOUSLY THE COMMISSION'S COURT AND OUR LOCAL HISTORICAL COMMISSION. WE KNOW WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN THE COURTHOUSE WITH THE VESTIBULE THAT'S THERE AND WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION ON THAT. AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT INITIATIVES OUT THERE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, UH, WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE 9 1 1 COMMUNICATION CENTER. I MEAN, WE'VE JUST GOT A LITANY OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SOON BE ADDRESSING SINCE WE'VE GOT THE BUDGET BEHIND US. BUT IT OCCURS TO ME THAT PROBABLY A GOOD AVENUE FOR US TO TAKE IT IN MY WAY OF THINKING IS TO START WORKING WITH THE STATE HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND NOT IN AN ADVERSARIAL OR ADVERSARIAL, I'M SORRY, ROLE, BUT MORE AS A, UH, AS A, AS A, UH, A MODEL OF TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE. NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE SECURITY , WHICH HAS GOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING GOTTA BE DONE ON THAT EVENTUALLY. UH, BUT WE ARE NOW, OUR COURTHOUSE IS NOW 55, 65 YEARS. YEAH. IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR ONE OF THE COURTHOUSE PRESERVATION GRANTS THAT, YOU KNOW, [00:55:01] WE'VE ALL GONE AND THE COURTHOUSES THAT HAVE BENEFITED HAVE BENEFITED THAT FROM OVER THE YEARS. NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, MONEY'S PRETTY WELL DRIED UP ON THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN ON THE RADAR. IN OTHER WORDS, WE'VE NEVER APPLIED TO MY OUTAGE. WE'VE NEVER APPLIED, WE'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO AT LEAST GET ON THAT PROGRAM. WHENEVER MONIES ARE AVAILABLE, WHICH THEY WILL BE, UH, TO HELP GET OUR COURTHOUSE RENOVATED, THEN EVERYBODY KNOWS OUR COURTHOUSE. UH, WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT IS. OKAY. I MEAN, WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME RATHER THAN BEING IN AN ADVERSARIAL ROLE WITH THE COMMISSION, UH, THAT WE SHOULD WORK WITH OUR LOCAL HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND OUR US AND TRY TO, UH, SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO AT LEAST LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING A, UH, RENOVATION OF OUR COURTHOUSE. CONSIDER SO THAT OUR COURTHOUSE, UH, CAN BE MADE WHOLE SOMEDAY AND GET IT BACK IN ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION. WE CAN'T CHANGE IT, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN GET IT BACK IN ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO, I DON'T DO ANYTHING TODAY, BUT IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO BE A VERY BIG PART, PART OF THAT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME ISSUES THERE. THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO AWAY, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TO ME, RATHER THAN BUSING PATENT ABOUT IT, LET'S JUST TRY TO GET SOMETHING DONE. SO ANY COMMENTS, A ONE PERSON THING MAYBE AND NOT THE REST OF US, BUT OKAY. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU. ALRIGHT, MR. UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. AGAIN, WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF INITIATIVES OUT THERE, BUT IF WE DON'T GET STARTED ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE NEVER GET DONE. SO READY, JASON? THAT'D BE SOMETHING DONE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. OKAY. SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE WORKING AND TALKING AND, UH, UH, SEEING WHAT KIND OF GAME PLAN WE NEED TO HAVE AND AT LEAST GET STARTED. I MORE THAN WORK WITH US AND ANYTHING THAT, THAT THEY CAN DO. AND UH, PARTICULARLY THEY SUSPENDED THIS, THIS JUDGE WOULD BE READ ABOUT IT TOO, BUT UNDER THE NEW, THEY, THEY CUT TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, THEIR STAFFING, THEIR FUNDING, EVERYTHING. WELL, THEY CUT STAFFING AND EVERYTHING IN HALF, IN ALL THE, UH, PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE. THEY, THEY DIDN'T DO AWAY WITH THEM LIKE THAT GOVERNOR TERRY WANTED TO, HE JUST WANTED DO AWAY WITH WHOLE DEAL THAT THAT DIDN'T COMPLY. SO THEY JUST CUT EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE VALLEY AND THEY HAVE SUSPENDED, THEY DIDN'T STOP THESE PROGRAMS, THEY'RE STILL THERE, BUT THEY SUSPENDED THE FUNDING FOR THEM FOR, FOR UH, I THINK TWO OR THREE, FOUR YEARS UNTIL THEY CAN GET BACK ON THEIR FEET AS FAR AS THEIR FUNDING IS CONCERNED. AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER GOVERNOR PROBABLY, AND, AND IF HE'S IN THE, IF HE'S IN WASHINGTON, WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE HERE ANYWAY. OKAY. ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GO. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER NINE TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON PROVING LANDLORD CONSENT TO LEASEHOLD MORTGAGE BETWEEN KAMAN COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, DAN KAMAN COUNTY. JOHN, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON THAT. SO YOU WANNA TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? UH, YES. THIS, THE, UH, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS IS, UH, A SITUATION WHERE, UH, THERE ARE, THERE'S A LANDOWNER WHO'S NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THE DEBT BUT IS AGREEING THAT THE TENANT CAN AND DEBT HIMSELF RELATED TO IT. BUT IN THIS CASE, THE THE TENANT IS, IS THE COMPANY COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. IT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY CAN OBTAIN A MORTGAGE ON THAT PROPERTY AND IT'LL SECURED BY THE LEASEABLE INTEREST. AND UM, AND, AND THIS IS THE COURT WILL RECALL AND I THINK, UH, NOT ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT NOW WERE PRESENT OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PRESENT AT THE TIME WHEN THIS CAME UP BEFORE SOME ISSUE. AND WE SELL THE PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY. SO BECAUSE I THINK GO OUT AND AND GET FINANCING MAKE HOLDER THAT TOOK LOAN. THE MONEY FOR BUILDING NEEDED TO HAVE SOME ASSURANCE. YES. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR ATTORNEY? ALRIGHT, MOTION TO APPROVE. MR. CLARK. MAKE THAT MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. JACKSON. SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. ALRIGHT, UH, ITEM 10 IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT APPRO RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY GRANT TO THE COUNTY SENIOR SERVICE. SENIOR CITIZEN SERVICE ATED [01:00:01] FOR THE HOME MEAL, HOME DELIVERED MEAL PROPOSAL. LEE, IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE, UH, YOU IS HERE? OR I'M SORRY JUDGE JACKSON. I WAS HERE. YOU WERE HIT OUT OVER THERE. I THOUGHT MS UH, OMEGA HAWKINS WOULD BE HERE. WELL, I TOO. UM, AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I PRESENT OF THIS BOARD, UH, MR. CLARK IS MY VICE PRESIDENT. MR. JACKSON SAYS ON THE BOARD WITH US, UM, I'VE YET TO TALK WITH OMEGA ABOUT THIS. HAVE YOU TALKED WITH HER ABOUT THIS? UH, THIS IS THIS IS THE DOLLAR THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE BUDGET? IS IT NOT HAVE 54,000? I HAVEN'T. OKAY. 54 BUDGET. OKAY. UM, THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR AS PRESIDENT. I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PASS. UH, ANGIE'S SHAKING HER HEAD. YES. SO I HOPE WE CAN GET THIS PASSED. YEAH. AND FUNDS ARE BUDGET NORMALLY, BUT WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY, I THINK THIS ALLOWS US TO GET GRANT OR GET SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE BECAUSE THE COUNTY DOES ALLOW RIGHT. THE COUNTY THIS. SO IT CREATES A MECHANISM WHERE CAN'T GET THE MONEY FROM TDA FOR MORE MONEY TO GO OUT FOR BILLS ON WAGE. AND THAT'S A, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT CITIZEN ON BILL SHE IN, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S, I'D LIKE TO MOTION RESOLUTION. AGREE. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JACKSON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER CLARK. SECONDS FURTHER DISCUSSION. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A. THOSE OPPOSED THANK YOU CLARK. MR. JACKSON, WE 30 BREAKFAST DONUTS, HONOR HEALTHY, UH, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON CHANGING THE REIMBURSEMENT AMOUNT FOR OUT OF COUNTY EXPENSES THAT COVER BILLS AND INCIDENTAL EXPENSES SUCH AS TIPS, TAXIS, ENTERTAINMENT, NOT REQUIRING SUBSTANTIATION OR RECEIPT AND AMENDING TO PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL. JOHNNY HERE, UH, JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN THIS, UH, SOMEBODY MIGHT GET HIM IN CASE WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. NEXT ITEM. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD SOME THINGS WE THOUGHT WE WANTED TO, WE MIGHT WANNA BE A LITTLE MORE DEFINITIVE ON. AND, UH, AS SOON AS WE GET JOHNNY BACK IN HERE, WE'LL WE'LL SEE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THEY, I'VE LOOKED AT IT. I THINK THE REST OF US, HE SENT US A COPY OF EMAIL, A COPY OF ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD NEXT WEEK. I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE IN LINE WITH THE STATE DETECTIVES RECOMMENDATIONS. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THEN PLUS SIMPLIFY THE ENTIRE PROCESS OFFICE. THIS WILL BRING US, IT'S GONNA REDUCE OUR CURRENT INSPECTORS ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO BE $60 TODAY. YES. WE'RE GONNA REDUCE THAT DOLLAR TOMORROW. I DIDN'T NOT TALK ABOUT THAT. YEAH, WELL, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE CLEANED IT UP. I THINK YOU'D SENT EVERYBODY A COPY OF I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. WE'LL, WE'LL BRING US WHAT THE STATE DOES, WHAT IT DOES. YEAH. THIS IS THAT, THAT PART, THAT HALF PRICE. NOW JUST FOR TRAVEL DAYS, OUR DECISION THAT MEETING WAS THAT IF YOU GO TO A MEETING IN DALLAS TODAY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T PAY YOU FOR THAT. RIGHT. WE DON'T PAY FOR THAT COST MONEY SOMEPLACE. RIGHT. THIS WOULD BE FOR OVERNIGHT TRIP. IT'S REDUCING I REDUCING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. 60 FROM $60 TO $40. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? 40 36. 46. 46 46. 6 46. STATE SIX. YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT 36. THE STATE WAS SIX. OH, OKAY. I LIKE 36. WELL HE THOUGHT THAT I, MY PROBABLY IS BUT I MEAN THIS BRINGS US IN. [01:05:03] WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BY NUMBER 11. ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MY COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER JACKSON HAS A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 12 AND IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT AMENDING THE PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL FOR OUT OF COUNTY TRAVEL TO BE REIMBURSED AT THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE. MILEAGE RATES THAT ARE ENFORCED ON THE DATE OF TRAVEL. WE'VE DONE THAT ANYWAY. WE JUST HAVEN'T. PRETTY POSITIVE TO SAY THAT EVERY, EVERY TIME EXCHANGES HOUSES BEEN OUT TO US, WE, WE'VE THOUGHT OF THAT LAST FOR YEARS, BUT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE IT. RIGHT. THIS JUST BRINGS TO OUR, OUR ACTUAL, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING INTO MANUAL QUESTION ABOUT, IT'S PRETTY STANDARD WHAT MOST BUSINESSES AND GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS LIVE UP THERE. SO WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME WORDING IN THERE ABOUT, UH, IS THIS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT PUTTING SOME WORDING IN THERE ABOUT ADVANCES OR ARE WE GONNA DO THAT AT YES. YEAH, WE, WE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN. WE TIME Y'ALL THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY PUT THAT ON IN THE NEAR FUTURE. GET THAT CLARIFIED ALSO. BUT WE NEED MAY ALSO. I AGREE THAT CLEARS THAT UP. SO EMPLOYEES DESERVE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT'S GONNA BE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 12 OR COMMENTS? MAY WE APPROVE? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, THAT COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECOND. THAT MOTION OF THE I. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT GETS US DOWN TO ITEM 13. I SUGGEST WE TAKE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK. WE, MONDAY IN OCTOBER. TWO WEEKS. I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS. YEAH, SECOND MONTH BE THIS MONDAY WILL BE THE FIRST MONDAY, YEAH. EVERY A MONTH. THEY'LL BE AN EXTRA MONDAY OR SOMETHING IN THERE. BE THREE WEEKS. OH, HE'S GOTTA BE 14. I'M PAST THAT STAGE. MY BABY'S 28. THEY, THEY GROWING. THEY GOT THEIR JOBS, PLACES TO LIVE. THEY DON'T NEED NO MONEY FROM ME NO MORE. THEY'RE SCRAP. GOOD FOR YOU. YEAH, IT'S AWESOME. I HAVE 32 28 MONEY. THE ONLY BIG THING ABOUT IT IS THEY, SINCE THEY DON'T NEED MONEY FOR EM FROM ANYMORE. I ONLY SEE 'EM EVER ONCE IN A WHILE. NOT AS OFTEN AS I USED TO. WILL YOU BE A TO SIGN THE BUDGET? BUT IT'S OKAY. THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD KIDS. I KIDS IN COLLEGE SO THEY STILL, I HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT STAGE YET. GRANDKIDS. AND I THINK MY OLDEST GRANDKID IS IN THE EIGHTH GRADE. EIGHTH, EIGHTH GRADE. SO I STILL GOT A LITTLE WHILE AGO FOR THAT. I'M 51. I GOT A BAD HEART DAY. I MAY NOT BE HERE FOR, TO GET ANYTHING FROM ANYWAY, SO [01:10:01] I USED TO BE A GOOD GRAND. GREAT. I HAVE SIX, BUT I DON'T SEE THEM VERY OFTEN BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL SCATTERED OUT BETWEEN KIDS LIVING FAR OFF AND DIVORCES AND LIKE THAT. I DON'T NEED TO BE POTS VERY OFTEN. THAT COULD BE BOTH COULD BE BAD. I'LL GET REMINDED THAT I'M OLD BUT I KIND OF MISS A LITTLE SUP. I'M ONLY 51. YEAH, I JUST, I GOT OFF. MUST HAVE DONE EARLY BUT YOU KNOW, AND I USED TO THINK I WAS GONNA BE GREAT BUT NOW AROUND, YOU KNOW THAT KIDS, I GOT NOTHING TO DO NO MORE. I NEVER DID LEARN NOTHING, NOTHING ABOUT HIM. WHAT GRANDKIDS GET? UH, YEAH THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN THAT OLDEST ONE YOU KNOW GETS HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE AND THE CAN DRIVE OVER AND SEE POPS YOU, I CAN SEE THAT KIND ABOUT 13 NOW I HAVE TO ASK HIM. I COULD KEEP TRACK OF TOO MANY BIRTHDAYS. KEEP TRACK. MY OLDEST GRANDKID IS 11. I AINT, I GONNA HAVE TO GET A GIRLFRIEND JUST TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE BIRTHPLACE. THAT'S, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE AROUND FOR ANYWAY. IT'S NOT GOOD REASON TO GET A GIRLFRIEND LAW. YOU WANNA GIVE HER A GOOD REASON? YEAH, I CAN JUST SIT. THANKS BOY. YEAH. ON ENTITIES TO CERTIFY ONE THE WHAT WAS AT THE DOOR. MAYBE THEY'LL HAVE MERCY. HIS THE DEADLINE. I MADE IT THOUSAND UP. ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING OUT IS I DISCUSSED WITH UH, OKAY THERE ONLY ONE. WHAT IS THIS? WE TALKED ABOUT [01:15:31] EUGENE MILLER IS YOUR QUESTION. MOST GUYS, MOST GUYS TALKING TO TO SAID THEY WOULDN'T EAT FOOD BECAUSE I STARTED, I STARTED TALKING ABOUT A DOLLAR, A DOLLAR DOWN. WE WOULDN'T FOOD START YOU. SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE TO DRIVE 18 MILES. 15, 18 MILES. BUT WE CAN, WE CAN LINK THOSE PAYMENTS AND WE CAN SAY ARGUABLY IS NOT RIGHT AND EACH PERSON WAS SPECIFIC. WHICH LOT OF CASES NOT YOU. HUNDRED FIVE. 25. AND THEN SHE IS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE BEST SHE CAN AS THEY COME IN AND MORE SO ON J. SO WE NOW HAVE TO MANUALLY KIND OF KEEP UP IF THE PARTIES ARE SEPARATE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO E WHATEVER REASON, WE HAVE TO KNOW THEY CASE. YEAH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING ONE AND ONE'S GONNA COME UP DE ON THREE. AND SO I NEED TO FIND OUT HOW LINKING CASE, YES. WE JUST HAVE TO, ARE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES FEED THE LINK PAYMENTS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF CASES AND THE PAYMENTS ARE LINKED WANT THEM TO SAY TO ME THAT YES, IF GEORGE'S GOT FOUR TICKETS, OH OH 1 0 0 2, 3 AND FOUR, WE LINK THE FOUR TICKETS WHERE KIND PAID OFF AS ONE THAT EVEN IF HE COMES IN AND SELECTS OH THREE K, WOULD I NEED TO NIP IN THE BED RIGHT NOW? CITATION WOULD PAYMENT PLANS. YES. I'M SORRY. OH, I'M SORRY. PAYMENT PLANS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WHEN THEY COME TO US, THEY MAY HAVE FOUR CASES ON THE JP CASE AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS IN ORDER FOR OUR COLLECTIONS WE LINKED, WE TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MERGE THE CASES. SO THEY'RE ONE GUY, ONE CASE LINK THOSE PAYMENT AND [01:20:01] NOW WHATEVER CASE THE JP GRABS TO ASSOCIATE WITH. WELL NO, BASICALLY IF THEY COME IN, IF THE OFFENSE IS ON THE SAME AND THEN THERE'S BEEN OTHER TIMES TOO WHERE THEY, HEY WHAT SOMEBODY, BUT IT'S JUST WAY THAT THE SOFTWARE IS ABLE TO KIND OF, ESPECIALLY UNDER, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW HE'S GOT FOUR TICKETS, IS HE PAYING ONE DELINQUENT ON THREE? HE GOT THOSE. HE'S SO YOU AND IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE, OTHERWISE I'M GONNA GIVE YOU MORE TIME. IT, IT'S EASIER TO KEEP UP WITH AND YOU WANT ME DELINQUENT. OTHERWISE IF YOU PAY ONE TICKET, YOU'RE DELINQUENT ON THE OTHER THREE IF WE LINK THEM, YOU ARE NOT DELINQUENT ON ANY OF THEM. YES. I MEAN IF YOU'RE MAKING PAYMENT THE BEST YOU CAN, DO YOU WANT ME TO HAVE YOU ARRESTED ON THE OTHER THREE? IF I LINK THEM ALL TOGETHER AND YOU PROMISE TO PAY ME $50 ONE AT A TIME. THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T. THEY BASICALLY PAY THIS ONE OFF THEN YOU GO TO THIS ONE AND THEN YOU GO TO THIS ONE AND THEN YOU GO TO THAT ONE. AND AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE PAYMENT, I WON'T THROW YOU IN JAIL. BUT DON'T BLAME THEM. EVERY ONE OF THEM. THE SYSTEM SEES YOU BEING SUCH A BENEFIT. WELL YOU TRY BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. OKAY. AND I CAN COME IN HERE AND TELL YOU, GEORGE, I THINK THAT YOU MAKE MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY YOU CAN PAY ME. I, YOU YOU SO YOU HAVE AN ACCURATE YES SHE'S DONE. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT TOO BAD BUT I'M STILL INTERVIEWING. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR AT LEAST SPECIFICS SO WE CAN TAKE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TEST ENVIRONMENT. YOU TELL ME WHEN, WHEN [01:25:22] DO YOU WANNA TEST THAT? OUR CASEMENT? YEAH. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT THINGS THAT ARE SECURE, STILL SECURE THINKING SO MUCH SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HOW ABOUT THEM? NEW YORK, BUFFALO BILLS. HUH? HE'S A LITTLE SERIOUS TODAY. WE HAVE OUR NEW YORK GIANTS AND OUR NEW YORK BUFFALO BROTHER. HE LIVES IN ROCHESTER AREA AND THEY'RE NOT, IT'S THERE. YEAH, IT'S THAT FAMILY WEEKEND. WHY I THINK THAT I CAN'T, WELL Y'ALL HAVE TO APPROVE ALL THIS UNLESS [01:30:20] IT'S COMBINED WITH THE WELL THEN I SAW SOME RIGHT ON THE, I JUST CAN'T SEE FOOTBALL. IT EVENTUALLY ALRIGHT, WHATEVER IT PROCEDURE. I SAID YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME BY WELL I'M BACKING UP. I DID YOU OFF THAT IN BOTH. YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GET TO, YOU CAN'T GET TO THIS SLIDE BECAUSE IT'S DOWN ON FRAME. IT'S BRACKET. SO ANYWAY, THERE'S A BOAT HERE. TAKE THAT BOAT OUT AND TAKE THIS BOAT OUT. TAKE HIS ARM OFF. OFF. PROBLEM IS IT'S THERE'S A [01:35:01] DAMN BOAT. THERE'S A DAMN BOAT RIGHT HERE. GO BACK. WHEN YOU GO BACK YOU PUT THE ONE GOT BEEN SATURDAY FOUR, SIX HOURS. YOU SAID WHAT? YOU SAID OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SOLD. DONE. YOU CAN DO IT. ALRIGHT, I THAT UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACT ON CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT REVIEWED. MR. BE MAKES THAT MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. JACKSON SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL 15. ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING SO MAY COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS. THAT'S NOT FAVOR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. COMMISSIONER MAN THROUGH THE CHILDREN'S. ANYBODY TELL WE PLAYED THAT DEAL LAST YEAR? * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.