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LORD, WE PRAY NOW AS WE GO THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THIS MEETING, THAT YOU WILL, UH, CAUSE US TO HAVE AN OPEN HEART AND OPEN EARS, AND TRULY REPRESENT WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COUNTY.
THESE THINGS WE ASK IN THY SON'S HOLY NAME, AMEN.
AMEN TO THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION OF THERE INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG TO ONE AND IN, I THINK WE'VE SIGNED UP FOR BEING HERE.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS SIGNED UP? UH, I KNOW, UH, SARAH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU, UH, SARAH.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME, UH, FORWARD AND, AND ADDRESS THE COURT DOWN, KNOW YOU, YOU WORK DATE FOR YOU? YOU'VE GOTTA GET, GET BACK TO WORK.
THIS IS SARAH WHITAKER, UH, WHO IS THE CHAIR LADY OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY DEMOCRATIC DEPART.
I'M, I ALSO HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE SURE.
LISA D. GREEN DARIUS HERE AND STEVE ADAMS. UM, I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW MORE THAT ARE COMING AND MUST BE RUNNING LATE.
DO I HAVE TO HOLD THIS? NO, YOU DON'T.
UM, WE WERE REVIEWING THE MAPS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE NEW PRECINCT MAPS AND CALLING LOCATIONS AND EVERYTHING.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT IS ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY, THAT IT MAY END UP BEING TABLED BECAUSE OF THE NEW RULING THAT CAME OUT ON FRIDAY.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO STILL GO AHEAD AND VOICE JUST A FEW OF MY CONCERNS.
I HAVE SPOKE WITH MR. MURPHY AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET TOGETHER AGAIN.
UM, ONE OF THEM IS IN, UH, IN TERRELL.
WE WERE TRYING TO ALIGN WITH THE CITY, UM, THE COUNTY PRECINCTS WITH THE CITY, THE WAY THE CITY VOTES.
AND ONE OF THE, THE PLACES, OR ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE COME UP IS THERE WAS A POLLING PLACE AT BAKER STREET FIRE STATION AND AT JOHN F. KENNEDY.
THOSE POLLING PLACES ARE ABOUT TWO TO THREE BLOCKS APART.
THE, UM, THE SCHOOL ITSELF, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PUBLIC PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT.
THEY HAVE VOICED THEIR CONCERNS.
THE CONCERN WITH THAT'S ALL OVER THE STATE.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE WANTING US NOT TO USE THEM BECAUSE OF SAFETY REASONS MORE THAN ANYTHING.
UM, IN TERRELL KENNEDY, JOHN F. KENNEDY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS, UM, KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE, AND THERE IT IS.
UM, THE PARKING IS NOT THE BEST AND BESIDES, UH, BEING ON A TUESDAY, THAT'S NOT A HOLIDAY, IT'S A REGULAR SCHOOL DAY.
AND FROM LIKE ABOUT SEVEN TO NINE, THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONE THERE.
SO THERE'S NO PARKING FOR VOTERS.
AND THEN AGAIN, IN THE AFTERNOON FROM TWO TO THREE, OUR TWO TO THREE 30 IT'S SCHOOL ZONE.
AGAIN, THERE'S THAT SAFETY CONCERN.
THERE'S ALSO, WITH PEOPLE COMING IN THE BUILDING THAT, UM, NORMALLY WHEN YOU GO INTO A SCHOOL BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO CHECK IN THE MAIN OFFICE WITH YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE SO THAT THEY CAN SCAN IT.
THEY KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING, THEY KNOW IF YOU'RE A SEXUAL PREDATOR, THEY KNOW OTHER THINGS ABOUT YOU SO THAT THEY CAN WATCH.
AND IT'S FOR ALL THE SAFETY OF EVERYBODY.
ON ELECTION DAY, WE DON'T DO THAT.
WE DO HAVE SOME SAFETY THINGS SET UP, BUT THEY'RE STILL THERE IN THE BUILDING.
SO THEY DO HAVE THAT MAJOR CONCERN.
THE OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE REST OF THE COUNTY THAT WE'RE USING, I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT THEM, BUT, UM, BAKER STREET IS RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS TO SEE, CAN WE NOT MOVE IT BACK TO BAKER STREET? UM, THEY WERE TWO DIFFERENT PRECINCTS, BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE WITHIN TWO TO THREE BLOCKS OF EACH OTHER.
THE SCHOOL AND THE CITY OF TERROLL ARE BOTH GOING TO BE USING BAKER STREET FIRE STATION AND NOT JOHN F. KENNEDY.
THAT IS GONNA BE A DISCUSSION LATER, BUT THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP.
UM, ANOTHER CONCERN IS I KNOW THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ALIGN UP WITH THE CITY AND NOT CROSS CITY LINES AND THE MAP THAT'S PROPOSED, THERE IS SOME
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CROSSING OF CITY LINES OR IT'S NOT LINED UP THE WAY THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE.SO, UM, I CAN BRING UP THOSE, WE CAN WAIT.
I CAN DISCUSS IT WITH MR. MURPHY.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SET SOMETHING UP AND I'M SURE BILL BAKER WILL BE THERE.
AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S, UM, THAT HAS CONCERNS ON THIS AND I DON'T MIND WAITING AND, YOU KNOW, SHARING THAT AND JUST US VISITING ABOUT IT AND NOT TAKE UP THE TIME OF THE COURT NOW.
BUT I WAS TRYING TO GET IT ALL SETTLED.
UH, THEN THOSE ARE MY MOST CONCERNS I THINK RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE AGENDA DOWN, WE'LL COLLECTION, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? MURPHY.
MR. MURPHY AND, UH, JOHN LONG.
OUR ATTORNEYS HERE NOW AS WELL.
AND SO WE DISCUSS THAT GET ITEM AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE CHANCE TO ADDRESS.
I BELIEVE I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE ITEMS ON, UH, AS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE IS CONCERNED, WE DO HAVE THE FINAL REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE, UH, MONIES IN REPORT IN FOR OUR LAST BUDGET YEAR.
WE STARTED ON OCTOBER 1ST AND IT SHOWS THAT OUR REVENUE IS UP 1.34 FOR YEAR OF 2010, 11 AS COMPARED TO OH NINE 10.
AND EXPENSES ARE DOWN, UH, 1.871 MILLION AS COMPARED FROM 10, 11 TO 10.
SO THAT, UH, YOU DO MATH ON THAT, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, OUR OVERALL FINANCIAL POSITION IS, UH, $3,219,824 TO THE GOOD AS COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS AT THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR.
I DROPPED SOME FROM, UH, UH, THE END OF 11 MONTHS, BUT AS WE TALKED SEVERAL TIMES, WE DID HAVE THREE PAY PERIOD THAT EXPLAINS THAT.
BUT ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER, THAT IS A VERY POSITIVE NUMBER FOR COUNTY.
AND, UH, THE AUDITOR AND THE COUNTY TREASURER ASSURED ME THAT WE WOULD WIND UP YEAR BACK IN THE BLACK AGAIN AND, UH, STILL GOT SOME CLOSE OUT THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE.
AND OF COURSE THE FINAL FIGURES WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR LY COMES.
MAKES SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.
HOW, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, JUST THE POINT THAT THE, WHEN THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR FINISHED THEIR WORK, WE BE ON APPROVAL BASIS.
WHERE THIS IS PRIMARILY CASH BASIS.
SO YOU WANT KIND OF GIVE US JUST A QUICK ONE MINUTE, UH, DIFFERENCE.
ALWAYS GET EXCITED ABOUT APPROVAL,
UH, AS FAR AS RECEIPT, DISBURSEMENTS, ANYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT WE CAN RECORD, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS ITEMS AS WE GO THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR THAT LONG IN LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S WHERE THE AUDIT AND THE AUDIT WILL MOVE THAT BACK TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS THEY DID LAST YEAR.
SO IT'S REALLY AN OFFSET DEPENDING ON, ON HOW MUCH GETS APPROVED VERSUS LAST YEAR, HOW MUCH GOT APPROVED.
BUT THERE'LL BE SOME DIFFERENCES.
HOW LONG DIFFERENT? OH, I HAVE NO IDEA.
COULD BE A MILLION, COULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO YEARS SHOULD NOT BE THAT SIGNIFICANT.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IS WHAT DID THEY ACCRUE LAST YEAR? WHAT WILL THEY ACCRUE THIS YEAR? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE NUMBERS? THAT'S WHAT AFFECTS THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN OUR THESE NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY WHAT YOU PAID YES.
IN FROM THE FIRST, FROM NINE 30.
AND IF WE HAVE BILLS THAT CAME IN AFTER THAT TIME AND WE DO, WHICH WE'LL, UH, THEY'LL BE, UH, CHARGED BACK THROUGH THE PRIOR YEAR, BUT THAT WILL BE DONE BY THE OUTSIDE OFFICE.
AND THEN WE ALSO, I THINK, HAVE THE ISSUE OF AMOUNT OF LIABILITIES.
THAT'S ALWAYS NUMBER, WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS THIS LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, UH, CUTTING, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO MAY NOT MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE THIS YEAR.
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S, UH, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S MUCH BETTER POSITION.
WHERE WE ENDED LAST YEAR WAS SO EVERYBODY SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE VERY PLEASED THAT ANY TIMES.
DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH WE LAST YEAR? NO, I'D HAVE TO GO LOOK.
I ALSO, UH, PRESENTED YOU WITH A COPY OF THE,
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UH, THE NUMBER OF THIS REPORT WHERE IT SHOWS THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES, UH, FOR THE YEAR.AND I APPRECIATE HOW PUTTING THIS TOGETHER FOR US EACH MONTH, AND IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR US TO, UH, KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, HOW WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT LOT, A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THIS PAGE, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE LOOKING AT NUMBERS, KEEPING UP WITH WHERE WE'RE ON MONTHLY BASIS, THIS IS A, IS I THINK AN EXCELLENT WAY FOR US TO DO THAT.
AND HOW, I KNOW THAT IT TAKES SOME TIME TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, BUT IT'S, UH, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING AND IT'S, IT'S GOOD INFORMATION FOR, SO WE CAN KEEP BUSY.
IT'S GOT LOTS, LOTS OF FACTS AND FIGURES ON, BUT IT'S, IT'S A PAGE FULL OF GOOD, UH, GOOD INFORMATION FOR US AS WELL.
AND, UH, THAT'S THE, AS FAR AS THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THE ONLY ITEM WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER THE 19TH.
AND I BELIEVE MAY HAVE ONE CORRECTION.
I BELIEVE WE ACCEPT MINUTES WITH, UH, CORRECTION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHERE THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR, IT SAYS 36 IN THE MINUTES SHOULD BE 46, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND PERMISSION.
AND A, UH, SECOND COMMISSIONER JACKSON, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER THREE FROM JEFF BROWN, UPDATE ON ELECTIONS AND, UH, FIND FINDS THE FEES.
I BELIEVE JEFF, US HANDOUT THIS POINT.
I I DID JUDGE IN, FIRST THING I'M TELL YOU IS MY HANDOUT SAYS JANUARY THROUGH AUGUST AND SAY JANUARY THROUGH SEPTEMBER.
I DID NOT CORRECT THAT ON MY TEMPLATE THIS MONTH, BUT IT DOES GO, THESE ARE THROUGH SEPTEMBER NUMBERS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY IS I KNOW THAT, UH, THREE, $3 MILLION BE GOOD AND YOUR SHERIFF JPS, YOUR CONSTABLES ARE FIVE $80,000 IN THAT.
IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY HAD EXPERIENCED LAST YEAR AS OPPOSED TO THIS YEAR, UH, THAT CONTINUES TO GROW EACH MONTH.
THIS MONTH WAS THE CLOSEST, UH, TO LAST, UH, TWO LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF OVERALL REVENUES.
BUT STILL THERE WAS AN INCREASE FOR 2010 OVER 2010.
UH, AS YOU, AS YOU GO THROUGH AND LOOK, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, UH, PARTICULARLY JP THREE, UH, CONTINUES TO, UH, I THINK A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT NUMBER WAS ABOUT 74%.
IT'S, IT'S ONLY 69% AHEAD LAST YEAR.
THE OVERALL NUMBER IS 42.7% INCREASE.
UH, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT NUMBER.
IT'S VERY, VERY MUCH AN IMPROVEMENT.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S PITCHING, STILL CONTINUING TO WORK, UH, TO WORK HARD TOWARD THESE, TOWARD OUR GOAL OF, OF, UH, ENHANCING REVENUES FROM ALL SOURCES HERE WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UH, I ALSO, Y'ALL ALSO HAVE, UM, THE, THE DIAGRAMS, THE, THE CHARTS, UH, THEY CONTINUE AND AS YOU KNOW, 2011 SHOWS UP ON BOTTOM TWO AS THE GREEN BAR.
UH, THAT BAR CONTINUES, UH, TO BE IN, IN GOOD SHAPE.
UM, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO, TO MAIL, UH, WE'RE MAILING ABOUT TWICE A MONTH AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO, UH, SHOW AN INCREASE IN TERMS. JEFF, I KNOW I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY PRECINCT ONE IS, SO JP ONE IS SO FAR BEHIND EVERYBODY ELSE, IS IT BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE JUDGE OUT THERE AND ALL THAT, OR? I REALLY THOUGHT THAT AT ONE POINT, COMMISSIONER, UM, KNOW THE LAST MONTH, I THINK THE NUMBER LAST MONTH THEY WERE UP TO A 7.6% INCREASE THIS MONTH.
THEY ACTUALLY COLLECTED LESS MONEY THAN THEY DID TRIED TO CALLS.
I SUSPECT THAT THERE'S EITHER A HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE PROBLEM THAT MAY BE CAUSING AN ISSUE.
I, I KNOW THAT, THAT THEIR ATTORNEY CASES OVER TO US, AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE CONTINUING DO OWN COLLECTION
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EFFORTS IN THE HOUSE.SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
UH, I'LL TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO IT.
JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENCE I WOULD UNDERSTAND, BUT IT'S SO FAR BEHIND THAT.
AND I THINK EARLY IN THE YEAR COMMISSIONER, I THINK IT WAS PART OF THAT TRANSITION, UH, BIT OF THE YEAR, JEFF, AS WE PROCEED, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE $508,000 WE'RE, THAT'S GREAT USE.
CERTAINLY A LOT OF ACCOLADES SHOULD GO OUT TO EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT.
JPS UH, UH, THE CONSTABLES, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND EVERYBODY THAT HAD A HAND DOING THAT.
WE STILL HAVE, WHAT, $10 MILLION OUT THERE.
AND I KNOW WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET A GOOD NUMBER AND WE, UH, I WE, WE, WE TALKED TO, I KNOW THAT, UH, CONSTABLE LAW IS BACK HERE IN BACK AND THE SHERIFF'S SHERIFF'S BEEN IN THE ROOM THIS MORNING.
WE TALKED ABOUT COORDINATING A, UH, SOME KIND OF WARRANT ROUND.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED ACCOMPLISHED HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
IF WE DO THAT, THAT WILL HELP CONTINUE TO HELP THIS, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO, TO MAIL AND CALL ON THAT EIGHT TO $10 MILLION, WHATEVER THAT REAL NUMBER IS.
IT'S HARD TO EVEN KNOW YET WHAT, WHAT THE REAL NUMBER IS, JUDGE.
UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK THOSE, WE'VE NOT TURNED ANY CASES BACK THAT I'M AWARE OF.
SO, AND, AND I GUESS THAT'S MY, MY KIND OF LEADS TO MY QUESTION IS THIS, THIS HALF MILLION, OVER HALF A MILLION, THAT WAS MONEY THAT REALLY WE STARTED PRIMARILY IN MARCH OR APRIL, I GUESS KIND OF IN APRIL ACTUALLY.
SO THAT'S WHAT, SIX MONTHS OR WHAT? UH, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT WAS KIND OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, THE EASIER ONES.
IS THAT A FAIR JUDGE? I DON'T KNOW.
I, I, I, THAT THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE CASE EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IT CONTINUES.
WE CONTINUE TO GROW 50 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT PER SE.
IT, IT IS ONLY, THAT'S WHAT'S ONLY BEEN OUT THERE SO FAR.
UH, OBVIOUSLY EACH MONTH NEW CASES ARE COMING IN AND BEING GENERATED AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF WHAT'S GOING ON THIS YEAR IS I THINK ALL THE CLERKS AND ALL THE JP OFFICERS, LEMME BACK UP.
IT STARTS WITH DPS AND POLICE OFFICERS AND CONSTABLES.
EVERYBODY IS WORKING, I THINK IN TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS ON A MORE TIMELY BASIS THAT THAT'S THE BEST WAY.
AND THEN THE CLERKS ARE DOING THE SAME THING.
SO THE CASES ARE GETTING WORKED MORE METHODICALLY AND I THINK AS, AS MORE AND MORE METHODICAL WORK PUT THE PIPELINE, I THINK THE NUMBERS FOR THE STATE, STATE, STATE IS GOOD.
OR MAYBE YOU THAT, AND YOU'LL PUT THAT IN WRITING
AND, AND, AND JUDGE, I WANT SAY THAT, THAT MY CRYSTAL LAW MAY BE NO BETTER THAN YOURS.
BUT I DO SEE THAT, THAT IS MY OBSERVATION, WHAT I'M SEEING IN THOSE OFFICES.
AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MY, MY REASON FOR QUESTIONING IS, IS THAT WE DEPEND ON THE REVENUE VIEW.
AND, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE BLACK NOW, WE STILL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE FINANCIALLY AS COUNTY.
AND SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL CONTINUE.
I GUESS THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO, TO PIN YOU DOWN AS MUCH AS IT CAN.
I KNOW IT'S HARD TO DO IS, UH, WE WE'RE UP FIVE EIGHT OR, OR REALLY SIX MONTHS WORTH OF WORK.
UH, THE TREND YOU'RE SAYING SHOULD CONTINUE JUDGE.
I SEE NO REASON FOR IT NOT TO CONTINUE.
AND, AND I, IT IS NOW IF, IF FOR SOME REASON THE JPS AND THE CLERKS QUIT DOING WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING, NO SIR.
I THINK, I THINK THE LEVEL OF COOPERATIONS I'VE SAID MANY MONTHS HERE BEEN, IT'S BEEN NOT ASTOUNDING, BUT IT'S BEEN REALLY AMAZING.
I'VE BEEN, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND I'VE, I'VE HAD ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, SO YOU KNOW, Y'ALL PICK THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT MAY AT LEAST ONE FOUR.
I DUNNO IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF, IF, IF OUR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE, UH, WORK HARD TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC TO GIVE TICKETS FOR WHATEVER THEY DO, AND THEN WE DON'T MAKE AN EFFORT TO GO AFTER THAT, WE'RE JUST KIND OF WASTING THEIR TIME AND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO DO THAT.
SO IT'S JUST, UH, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO FIGHT THE CASE IF IT'S SO YOU TO DO SO, BUT, BUT ONCE THAT CASE IS OUT THERE AND THAT THEY'RE EITHER JUST NOT NOR IT OR WHATEVER, I THINK WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TAXPAYERS OR COMMUNITY TO GO AFTER THAT.
JUDGE, I'VE GOT NOTHING TO BACK UP WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, BUT IS MY, IS MY CONSIDERED OPINION THAT NO MATTER IF EVERYBODY PAID ALL THE COURT COSTS THAT WERE ASSESSED AND EVERY, EVERY JV OFFICE
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IN THIS, IN THIS COUNTY, THEY STILL PROBABLY WOULDN'T COVER THE TRUE COST OF THE TRAFFIC.PROBABLY ALMOST NO WAY TO, YOU SAID I I THINK THAT'S, SO THAT CAME UP LAST YEAR.
I THINK WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAST YEAR WE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT LAST YEAR.
WE, WE HAVE TALKED OFF AND ON THIS YEAR ABOUT GETTING THAT COORDINATED.
UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, I THINK THE CITY PROBABLY WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS DONE.
I, I SUPPOSE THAT, THAT I, I'D LIKE THE COURT, THE SHERIFF TO BE IN CHARGE OF THAT.
HE'D PROBABLY LIKE TO APPOINT ME.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE, WOULD YOU LIKE BE IN CHARGE OF THE ROUNDUP SHERIFF? I GUESS IF WE'RE GONNA DO ONE I'LL AFTERNOON.
I, I VOLUNTEER TO HELP SHERIFF.
BUT, UH, WE, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
AND I, I, AND I HAVEN'T, UH, I I'M HERE A LOT, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY OF THE CITY DOING THAT THIS YEAR.
UH, YOU MAY KNOW SHERIFF AND ANY OF THE CITY'S DONE THAT NOT.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO THAT AND, AND MAYBE GET THE CONSTABLES, THE SHERIFF, THE CITY ALL INVOLVED.
AND SO THAT IT'S COORDINATED EFFORT.
WELL, THE RESULTS, THE PUBLICITY THAT WOULD COME OUT A ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S CERTAINLY SOME PEOPLE WOULD COME ON IN.
SO, UM, AND WE SHERIFF, YOU AND I NEED TO VISIT ABOUT THAT.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GENTLEMEN? I DO.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION POSSIBLY FOR HOW MAYBE THIS, SO I, IN MY MIND, 20, WE GOT 1,000,009 COLLECTED FROM JANUARY TO SEPTEMBER.
BUT IN OUR OVER 2011 JPS WERE ONLY ACCREDITED FROM ME AT ONE.
AND JAKE JUST PIECE, NOW THERE'S SOME OTHER FINES, THERE'S SOME OTHER LOCATIONS NOW TOO.
SEND THOSE FEES SHOULD BE ADDED INTO THAT.
BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT COME UP TO $2 MILLION.
WELL, IS THAT TOTAL COLLECTIONS? YES SIR.
SOME OF THAT GOES TO THE STATE.
WAR TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND JUST, IT'S NOT ALL COUNTY MONEY THAT THERE'S COLLECT, BUT WE GET A LOT.
THAT'S WHY BEFORE WE WOULDN'T SHOW UP ON SOUTHERN SHEET OVER HERE.
THAT'S WHERE HIS JOB GETS FUNDED.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.
I'LL, I'LL HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH I GIVE YOU BETTER.
UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LARRY UNION TODAY.
DISCUSS THE BURN BAND AND ASK US TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT.
HAVE YOU MORNING, MORNING A LITTLE.
I THINK I GOT VERY LITTLE LAND.
SO DID, DID NOT HELP THE SITUATION.
OUR CURRENT BURN BAND, I BELIEVE SET TO EXPIRE ON THE 18TH OF THIS MORNING.
SO THIS WAS THE CLOSEST AGENDA THAT I COULD GET ON.
UM, THE LEVELS FROM THE TEXAS FOREST SERVICE, EVEN AS OF YESTERDAY ARE STILL IN THE MID LOWER SEVEN HUNDREDS AND THAT'S STILL THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
IS PREDICTIONS GONNA BE THE SAME TO CONTINUE THAT TREND? I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD BY HAVING THIS CUTTING DOWN ON FIRES.
WE'VE SEVERAL LARGE ONES PROBABLY DEAL NOT, WE ISSUED OVER 70 CITATIONS BURNAND VIOLATIONS AND UH, A LOT OF THOSE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
AND I MEAN, REPEAT OFFENDERS IN THIS SAME TIME PERIOD WILL JUST TELL US THAT I KNEW WE HAD ONE, BUT HERE I'M, YOU JUST CAN'T HELP, JUST CAN'T HELP YOURSELF
SO ANYWAY, WE'VE HAD THAT, BUT UH, OF COURSE THE GOVERNOR, I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE THAT HE EXTENDED DISASTER PROCLAMATION AGAIN.
SO THE BALL IN LINE WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND EXTEND OUR BURN BAND THIS TIME UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 30TH CUTOFF DATE.
AND HOPEFULLY I ALWAYS UPDATE IF THAT HAPPENS.
SO I'D LIKE TO EXTEND IT TO THE 30TH OF NOVEMBER AT THIS TIME, MR. JACKSON MAKES THE MOTION EXTEND.
WE HAVE SECOND MANNING SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS? MY FEET THIS HIGH.
WHAT? MY FEET SACK THIS HIGH RIGHT NOW 20 IS GONNA HIGHER AND I'M PROUD THAT THEY'RE IN THEIR BARN.
THEY'LL STAY IN THERE UNTIL IT'S LIVING.
BUT THERE IS A PROVISION WITH COUNTY JUDGES CAN TAKE THAT BURN BAND OFF BETWEEN, DOWN ALMOST WITHIN
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OR SO YEAH, REVISION IS TALKING TOM ABOUT SWORN HOUSE BILL 11 7 4 ACTUALLY HAS CHANGED THIS YEAR.NOW DETERMINATION MADE BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT OR THE COUNTY JUDGE OR THE DESIGNATED FOR THAT PURPOSES.
JUST HE PICKED UP TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S TIME TO REMOVE IT AND LEMME KNOW SO I CAN NOT ALL THE AGENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN THAT SEPTEMBER 1ST TO DO THAT OR IS THAT JUST, THAT MAY GO ON.
I THINK YOU PROBABLY NEED MEETING AND TAKE HOUSE BILL 11 SEVEN BEFORE DECIDE HOW FAR YOU WANNA GO ON IT, BUT IT'S IN EFFECT AS LONG AS Y'ALL DO IT LEGALLY.
WE NEED ORDER THAT DOES RIGHT BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 35.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE WE ALL WOULD DO.
WE'LL PUT THAT ON FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MAYOR A MOTION SECOND.
UH, EXTEND THE BURN VAN THROUGH NOVEMBER THE 30TH.
NEXT ITEM IS TO, UH, ACCEPT, UH, THE AUDITOR'S REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER, 2011.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL KEEP THIS ON FILE IN, UH, MY OFFICE.
IF, UH, ANYBODY WISHES TO COME BY AND SEE THAT THIS MORE DETAILED COURT, IF YOU CAN TELL, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE REPORT.
COMMISSIONER THAT MOTION TO SECOND, SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, UH, ITEM SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND, UH, CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT REVISED ELECTION PRECINCT BOUNDARIES, POLLING LOCATIONS AND ELECTION PRECINCT NUMBERING SYSTEMS AND, UH, UH, ASK OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND OUR ATTORNEY TO, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT THAT ITEM.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME RECENT MOVEMENT, UH, PERHAPS ON THAT.
THE, UH, THE PRECINCT AREAS AND NUMBERS ARE PRETTY WELL FINALIZED.
THE POLLING PLACES ARE NOT AT ALL FINALIZED WHERE YOU'RE ON ONE END WAITING FOR ULTIMATE FINALIZATION.
THAT IS SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MATCH THEIR POLLING PLACES.
WELL, WE'VE GOT THE CITY LINES, BUT NOW IT'S POLLING PLACES.
AND ALSO AS REGARD TO VOTING PLACES, UH, CORN HAD ITS, THEY, THEY'RE ALL UP IN AIR BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED A LOT OF THE POLL PLACES AT, BUT THE AREAS ARE COMPLETE AND THE NUMBERS ARE COMPLETE BASED ON WHAT YOU READ IS THE DOCUMENT.
WAS THERE SOME ACTION, UH, FRIDAY, UH, OR THURSDAY, ONE DAY LAST WEEK ON DELAYING UH, DOING THIS? I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE WAS SOMETHING ACTUALLY THE WEEK BEFORE THE FEDERAL COURT DECISION, THE THREE JUDGE PANEL LOST HAD HAD RULE THAT THE OCTOBER 1ST DEADLINE REGARDING ELECTION PRECINCTS WAS GOING TO BE LIFTED IF, IF IT INVOLVES ANYTHING OF, OF, UH, STATE LINES OF, OF THE POLICY SENATE.
SO AS A RESULT, WHAT WE HAD SENT A, A LETTER TO, UH, MR. MURPHY, UH, ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING, I THINK SECRETARY OF STATE JUST FOLLOWED UP LAST WEEK AND SAID THE OCTOBER 1ST DEADLINE IS OFF, YOU CAN KEEP WORKING, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF PENDING REVIEW BY UNTIL THAT CASE.
AND, AND, AND THAT CASE DOESN'T INVOLVE CLIN SPECIFICALLY, IT JUST INVOLVES THE REDISTRICTING ISSUE YOU PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT RIGHT.
THE CHALLENGE OF THE HOUSE LINES.
BUT SINCE EVERYONE'S AFFECTED BY HOUSE LINES, UM, WE'RE TWO.
SO, SO THAT'S, SO, SO THE, SO THE DEADLINE ON OCTOBER 1ST IS, IS LIFTED AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE IN FRONT OF US.
UH, YOU, WERE YOU IN HERE WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, EARLIER COMMENT FROM SARAH WHITAKER ABOUT ELECTION LINES?
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YES, SIR.IN THE CITY OF TERRELL? YES SIR.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED? I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME TIME NOW TO RESOLVED.
WELL, THE FIRE STATION, WE WERE TOLD TWO YEARS AGO, THEY WANTED US OUT THERE.
NO, I'M TALKING, I'M I'M TALKING ABOUT POLLING PLACES.
I'M TALKING ABOUT OH, THE CITY LINES.
THE CITY HAS RESOLVED THEIR LINES.
SARAH WAS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO STAY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND THEIR LINES ARE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
WAS THAT AN ISSUE? IF WE, I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE.
WHAT, UH, JUDGE, ON SOME OF THESE LINES I'VE LOOKED AT THIS, MR. MURPHY, I THINK YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATION AROUND THIS.
UH, SAY YOU ALIGN THIS WITH THE CITY AND I DON'T THINK IN SOME PLACES WE CAN ALIGN WITH THE CITY FOR, UH, ONE OF REASONS MS. WHI ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT THE CITY USES THE LAKE STREET FIRE STATION FOR A POLLING PLACE.
YOU MOVED THE COUNTIES TO, WELL NOW THE POLLING PLACES, I'M, I'M GONNA GET TO THIS OTHER TWO I WAS IN, IN DISTRICT FIVE HERE.
SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO POLLING PLACES AND YOU HAVE A STILL COURTHOUSE AND YOU ALSO HAVE KENNEDY SCHOOL OUT THERE.
THE MAP SHOWS THE POLLING PLACES THAT ARE NOT CORRECT.
I'M TRYING TO, I GUESS WE NEED TO TAKE THIS.
WE, WE HAVE NOT FOUND OUT WHERE THEIR CITY PLANS TO USE THE ONE THAT, ONE OF THOSE, I FORGET WHICH ONE, BUT THE ONE THAT OTHERWISE WOULD'VE BEEN COURTHOUSE, WHICH IS IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT NOW.
SO, UH, THEY, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FROM THEM WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HOLD ELECTIONS IN THAT PRECINCT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I DUNNO WHERE THEY'RE, WE'RE WAITING ON THE SCHOOL TO REPORT TO US TOO.
UH, BUT THERE, THE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO FOLLOW THEIR, THEIR POLLING PLACES.
NOT POLLING PLACES, BOUNDARIES.
BUT I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT POLL PLACES VOTE ON DIFFERENT ELECTIONS.
IT'S CONFUSING THE CITIZENS AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO VOTE.
WE NEED TO, THAT'S ONE WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
I THINK EVERYBODY POLL FEWER POLLING PLACES, WORKERS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE EXPENSES INVOLVED AND ALL THAT JUST MATTER MAKING IT WORK SOMEHOW.
AND UH, BILL, I, MR. BAKER, I THINK YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING I WANT, I I'LL ASK GOD, I I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, SINCE THEY HAVE SAID THAT OCTOBER 1ST IS NOT THE DEADLINE, DID THEY GIVE US A DEADLINE? NO.
'CAUSE WE WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO GET UP, UP ON FILING TIMES.
AND WE'VE GOTTA KNOW WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE GOING TO BE FOR PEOPLE THAT RUN THE PRECINCT HERE TO BE ABLE TO FILE IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE AN A PERIOD THAT, THAT THAT'S ACTED ON PRETTY QUICKLY.
IF THE FILING PERIOD, IT STARTS A MONTH EARLIER.
IT STARTS NOVEMBER THE 12TH RUNS THROUGH DECEMBER THE 12TH.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TIME GROWING.
NO, HE, HE MAKES A GOOD POINT, UH, THAT THEY DIDN'T, THEY JUST SAID IT'S LIFTED FOR NOW, BUT THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE REST OF THE PROBLEM.
I MEAN IT'S, IT'S NICE THAT OCTOBER 1ST IT'S NOT.
THERE'S OTHER DEALING WHICH MEANS PROBABLY SOMETHING.
WELL I THINK AS FAR AS TARA IS CONCERNED, I THINK WE, WE'VE GOTTA GET SOME DEFINITIVE INFORMATION ON THAT BEFORE YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD.
AND UH, THE ISSUE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AND I, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE VOTING IN THE SCHOOLS, I DO KNOW THAT SCHOOLS NOW ARE, YOU KNOW, MANY OF 'EM, YOU HAVE TO SHOW A DRIVER'S LICENSE BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN GO IN.
THAT'S JUST THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.
IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY LACKS PARTICULARLY.
SO THE USE OF A SCHOOL IS, IS UH, IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT USED TO BE.
AND THE PARKING ISSUE PARTICULARLY, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH KENNEDY ELEMENTARY AND MY, MY FEELING IS WE OUGHT TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS CONVENIENT FOR THE VOTERS WHEN THEY VOTE.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE TO, I THINK CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS WELL.
I DON'T HOW MANY OTHER CAMPUSES WE HAVE.
I GUESS WE'VE GOT
MR. MURPHY, I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH THE CHIEF DOWN A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN FIRST
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CAME UP AND HE SAID IT DIDN'T REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM, THEY DON'T HAVE GOOD PARKING.
WE HAD, IF THE CITY OF TERRELL AND WANT TO USE IT, WE'LL USE, WELL WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS IT SOUNDS LIKE.
SO, BUT BASED ON WHAT BOTH THE DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN CHAIRS ARE SAYING AND WHAT JOHN'S COMMENTS ARE SAYING, WE DO HAVE THAT ISSUE.
SO KNOW GETTING THE, GETTING THE TIME SO FOLKS THAT, UH, FOR WHATEVER STRANGE REASON WANTS TO BE A PRECINCT CHAIR, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TOUGH JOB OF COURSE, BUT IT'S A JOB THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO DO.
WE'VE GOTTA GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILE FOR THAT.
SO, BUT AGAIN, AS FAR AS WE KNOW AT THIS POINT, THE PRECINCT LINES ARE FINAL.
THE PRECINCT POLLING PLACES THAT ARE UP IN HERE.
YOU SAY PRECINCT LINES, MR PRECINCT LINES OR POLLING LINES.
I'VE GOT A FEW ISSUES I'D LIKE BRING BRING THEM UP.
I THINK I PROBABLY KNOW WHERE HE'S TALKING ABOUT, BUT I GUESS I DIDN'T READ.
I THOUGHT WE WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
WE CAN'T BE INSIDE OR OUTSIDE.
LINDA'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE AND WE'VE GOT SOME POLLING PLACES OVER THERE.
WHY CAN'T WE NOT ZIGZAG OUT A LITTLE BIT ON, UH, MAYBE TO BRING IN THAT MUSTANG CHURCH, PUT THAT INTO A MORE, MAKE THAT PULLING PLACE FOR ANOTHER BECAUSE THE LINE IS NOT, IF ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GO 50 FEET OR A HUNDRED FEET TO GET A POLLING PLACE, WHY DO WE NOT DO THAT? 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT ONE THAT'S GONNA BE ON A ONE WAY SERVICE ROAD AS OF RIGHT NOW.
YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THERE TO COVENANT BAPTIST CHURCH GONNA MAKE IT EXTREMELY D OVER SAME BOX.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE JUST LIKE A NIGHTMARE.
YOU JUST CAN'T GET THERE RIGHT NOW.
AND OF COURSE THAT 'CAUSE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION'S GONNA BE COMPLETELY AND GONE IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S STILL GONNA BE, UH, WHY COULD WE NOT PUT THAT MUSTANG CREEK COMMUNITY CHURCH INTO BOX 13
WE TAKE, WE HAVEN'T DESIGNATED PRECINCT SEVEN POLLING PLACE.
NO, BUT YOU SAID THE PRECINCT LINE'S GONNA BE THE SAME.
LET'S MOVE THAT PRECINCT LINE AROUND THAT CHURCH AND MAKE THAT CHURCH BE IN 13 EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN SOUTH
WELL, COULD WE DO THAT? WOULD THAT BE A POSSIBILITY? IS IS IT BOTH WITHIN, IS ALL THAT PRECINCT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF POINT? ARE YOU SAYING
THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S ONLY ONE PUBLIC BUILDING IN THAT ENTIRE VOTING PRECINCT.
AND IT'S VERY INCONVENIENT TO GET THERE.
IF WE CAN, IF YOU CAN MOVE A LINE, WHICH IT DOESN'T, WHAT THIS LETTER SAYS YOU CAN DO, GO OUTSIDE TO SEE LIMITS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OVER 10,000 PEOPLE.
WHY, WHY DON'T WE MOVE THE PRECINCT LINES OVER A LITTLE BIT? IT MAY BE WOULD THAT SOLVE THE PROBLEM IN WELL SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT 27 CONSOLIDATED VOTING PRECINCT LINE.
LIKE THE 27 THAT ONE CHURCH HAS BEEN GOING AT FOREVER OUT THERE.
UH, ASSEMBLE THE GOD CHURCH, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S GOING, NOW IT'S THAT FAR OUTSIDE OF THE LINE.
THAT PROBABLY WOULD WORK BECAUSE THAT WOULD CHANGE THE COMM LINE IN THAT LOCATION.
BUT I GUESS I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT COVENANT CHURCH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT'S NICE AND MELISSA USE THAT PLACE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY ONE WAY SERVICE ROAD THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY BACK TO.
YOU KNOW, TOWARDS TER WE ARE NOT PLANNING ON USING THAT PULL PLACE.
IT'S NAMED THERE BECAUSE IT WAS THERE TO IDENTIFY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A PLACE OUT NORTH OF THERE.
WELL, CAN WE DRAW THAT PRECINCT LINE, RODEO BOX LINE OUT TO INCLUDE THAT CHURCH, MUSTANG CHURCH WAY OUT THERE.
MUSTANG CHURCH ON 5 44 SIMPLY LOCATED.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD DO IT.
WHICH PRECINCT WOULD THAT BE, COMMISSIONER? UH, IT'S IN 13 CURRENTLY THE CHURCH IS IN
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SEVENTH.AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK MR. LONG DO THE VOTING PLACES, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, SUB COURTHOUSE NUMBER EIGHT AND
DOES IT HAVE TO BE INSIDE THE PRECINCT? LIKE SUB COURTHOUSE IS OUTSIDE OF VOTING BOX NUMBER EIGHT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, AND I KNOW THESE ARE NOT SET IN STONE RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE LOOKING AT USING THE SUB COURTHOUSE FOR VOTING BOX NUMBER EIGHT.
IT IS WRITTEN DOWN OR IT'S GOT A DOT ON THE MAP, BUT THAT'S IRRELEVANCE.
AND THEN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, LISTED AS, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING I KNOW THE LIST WASN'T SET IN STONE, BUT DO THEY HAVE TO BE INSIDE THERE? IT WHAT, WHAT PRECINCT IS? THAT'S PRECINCT 8, 8 5.
WE'RE SHOWING ON THIS LIST JUST TARRELL WITH A QUESTION MARK.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT POLLING PLACE IS GONNA BE.
I'M WAITING FOR THE CITY OF TERRELL TO TELL ME WHAT THEY'RE GONNA USE.
ANOTHER THING, UM, SOME OF THE LINES THAT YOU DID DRAW HAVE CHANGED IN REGARDS FROM WHEN WE HAD A MEETING TILL THE MAP THAT WE GOT.
AND SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS, I GUESS, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WILLING TO WAIT, IF YOU WERE GONNA TABLE IT AND US JUST HAVE A MEETING AND HAVE SESSION THINK PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA AND NOT TAKE UP ALL THE COMMISSION'S ONE TIME.
I THINK THAT WE COULD GO ON FOR ANOTHER HOUR.
SO IT'S, AND IT IS, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE TIME, BUT TIME IS, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME AND WE NEED TO COME BACK AND HAVE A SPECIAL COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING TO APPROVE THIS.
UH, ONCE WE GET ALL THE DETAILS WORKED OUT, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
IT'S JUST, I MEAN THIS IS A BIG, BIG CHANGE FOR US.
AND UH, THANK GOODNESS THE CENSUS ONLY COME ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOTTA GET, TRY TO GET RIGHT AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST.
I I THINK THAT WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE TO OKAY.
SIT DOWN AND DO IT OUTSIDE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS DONE.
SO WE AS THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND, UH, THEIR VOTING BOX JUDGES AND THAT PRECINCT, THAT BE GOOD.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO UH, TABLE? I MAKE A MOTION TAKE.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES A VOTE ON A MOTION TO TABLE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER CLARK, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I THANK EVERYBODY FOR WORKING ON THIS.
I KNOW YOU AND MR. LONG SPENT LONG HOURS AND, UH, JUST KEEP WORKING AND, UH, THE COMMUNICATION LINES ARE OPEN NOW.
THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TRY TO KEEP EVERYBODY AS INFORMED AS WE CAN.
NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPLYING FOR A TRANSPORTATION STUDY LOAN FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UH, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE LOAN PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO UH, SIGN.
I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ACCEPTED TO YOU.
I THOUGHT I'D INCLUDED IN MY REQUEST THIS WHAT WHAT I WAS HANDED TO YOU WAS JUST A COPY OF THE PARKER COUNTY FUNDING AGREEMENT THEY HAD WITH NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNTY GOVERNMENT ORIGINALLY, WHENEVER I TALKED TO, UH, MICHAEL
WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEEDS, UH, FROM A LOT OF PLACES AND NOT VERY WASTE FUND.
WE'RE LOOKING, TRYING TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME FUNDING IN THERE, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE OUR NEEDS IDENTIFIED BEFORE WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING.
SAY WE NEED TO HAVE OUR NEEDS IDENTIFIED EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTY ASK WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO WHAT WE GOT INTO YEAR OR SO AGO.
THE BLOOD LADY, WE WANT AN OUTSIDE FARM ENGINEERS THAT CAN COME IN THERE AND IDENTIFY OR PRIORITIZE WHAT WE NEED.
AND ALSO COST AMOUNT THANK, SO IT WON'T BE WHAT COMMISSIONER MANNING WANTS TO GET DONE IN
IT'S GONNA BE COMMISSIONER MANNING, THE CITIES HE'S DEALING WITH DOWN THERE WILL COME UP WITH A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE IN THEIR AREA, BUT THEN WE WOULD'VE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT COME IN AND SAY THAT THAT'S NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY.
OR THAT'S NUMBER FIVE PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY THAT'S GONNA COST X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
WELL, WE, WE'VE GOT 30 PRIORITIES.
WE MAY HAVE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS
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WORTH OF NEEDS.WE MAY DECIDE THAT WE MAY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN 30 MILLION, 50 MILLION, WHATEVER CUTOFF NUMBER WE WANT TO GET TO.
WE TAKE THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FROM THAT POINT AND WORK UP WITH IT AND TRY TO GET THOSE PROJECTS COMPLETED THROUGH A BOND ELECTION.
THE BOND ELECTION WOULD BE AT THAT POINT, ONCE WE KNOW OUR, WHAT WE KNOW THE NEEDS ARE, IDENTIFY THEIR PRIORITY, NO MATTER HOW MANY DOLLARS WE CAN BITE OFF, THEN WE GO TO THE VOTERS AND THE VOTER WOULD SAY, YES, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DONE, OR NO, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT DONE.
BUT I WANTED TO RAISE MY TAXES UP, WHATEVER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT CAN BE TO GET, TO GET THOSE PROJECTS TO LEAD IT.
AND IT WOULDN'T BE UP TO US IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S TAKE THE POLITICS OUT A LITTLE BIT, DOESN'T REALLY, I GUESS WHAT THEY BORROWED $200,000 OVER THERE.
MY CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH SOME PEOPLE, WE CAN GET IT DONE FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND BUCKS.
THEY BORROWED A LOT MORE MONEY THAN NEEDED, UH, AT 5% INTEREST WITH PAYBACK AND PAYBACK WAS PAID BACK THROUGH THE BOND WHEN THE BOND WAS SUCCESSFUL.
AND THERE'S BEEN THREE OF 'EM LOCAL, WHEN I SAY LOCAL COUNTIES SURROUNDING THE DFW AREA THAT'S HAD THESE TYPE OF BOND ELECTIONS, ALL THREE 'EM HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, EVEN BEEN THIS TOUGH TIMES.
SO, UH, I'M THINKING THE PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE TIRED OF SITTING IN TRAFFIC AND WILL NOT GET BACK AND FORTH TO WORK OR THEIR JOBS OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO DO.
YOU KNOW, WE A LOT MORE WE'RE SPENDING, LIKE I SAY, IT WAS 35 HOURS A YEAR WASTED SITTING IN TRAFFIC.
THE ONE WE GOT LAST WEEK SAID IT'S 42 HOURS A YEAR WASTE OF SIGNAL TRAFFIC.
IT'S GONNA GO UP INTO THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES BY 2035 IF SOMETHING'S NOT DONE.
SO WE CAN SIT AND WAIT AND WAIT FOREVER FOR TO COME BY AND SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS. OR WE CAN TAKE A LITTLE LEAD AND TRY TO ASSIST THEM AND GET SOME OF OUR PROBLEM DONE.
AND I THINK THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IN ON THIS IS THE COUNTIES THAT ARE GETTING TRANSPORTATION FUNDING ARE THE COUNTIES THAT HAVE PROFESSIONAL STUDIES DONE THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND SAY
THEY KNOW WE HAVE SOME FUNDS THAT ARE, OUR CHANCES OF GETTING FUNDING FOR THOSE PROJECTS JUST GO UP TREMENDOUSLY.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE A WAYS OFF ELECTION.
WE'VE GOTTA GET THIS DONE FIRST BEFORE THEY'LL EVEN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE, WE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK GOING ON IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S ALL REACTIVE OR IT CANNOT PROACTIVE WORK.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BY DOING THIS, UH, BY DOING THIS STUDY, IT WILL HELP US MOVE FORWARD AND GET ON THE RADAR.
WHEREAS RIGHT NOW WE ARE KIND OF JUST LITTLE LIMP OFF TO THE SIDE.
AND I, THAT MAY NOT BE A GOOD ANALOGY, BUT I KIND OF THINK IT'S
SO WON'T THIS ALSO PROVIDED RAY FOR, FOR MASS TRANSIT POSSIBILITIES ALSO IN OUR WORDS, IT IT BE INCLUDED IN THE STUDY, COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF NEEDS COUNTYWIDE, NOT JUST IN ONE AREA.
IT'S ALL FOR, FOR MASS TRANSIT, UH, POSSIBLY RAIL HIGHWAYS AND SO FORTH.
SO IT'S, IT'S A PROFESSIONAL WAY TO GET DONE WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
IT'S ALSO WAY FOR THIS, THIS POINT IS THAT ORIGINALLY THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE US THE MONEY, NO PAY BACK, NO HARM, NO FOUL.
AND THEY WENT BACK AND LOOKED THAT THEY HAD TO CHARGE PARKER COUNTY INTEREST ON THEIRS AND THEY HAD TO PAY IT BACK IF THEIR BOND ELECTION WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL.
WE HAD TO COME FOLLOW THAT PROTOCOL.
WELL, UH, I SAID THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, I SAID, INTEREST RATES IS A LOT CHEAPER NOW.
HE SAID, HE SAID, UH, WHAT KIND OF INTEREST RATE WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE? I SAID, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT FOR ZERO.
AND WE GOT IT FOR ONE, THEY AGREED TO A 1% LOAN, WHICH IS PRETTY CLOSE TO ZERO.
IS THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND? UH, FOR THE COST OF THE, THE COMPANY THAT'S GONNA COME IN AND DO THE STUDY? BASICALLY, YEAH, WE'LL NEGOTIATE WITH SOMEBODY TO DO, TO DO A STUDY ONCE WE GET THE, THE FUNDING LOCATED THERE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNT WE DECIDE ON.
AND I THINK A HUNDRED WILL DO IT.
BUT I DON'T WANT SHORTCHANGE THINGS.
UH, WE'LL GO OUT AND GET SOMEBODY TO THOROUGHLY IDENTIFY WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.
THEN THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND SHOULD INCLUDE, UH, SELECTING PROJECTS, COSTING PROJECTS OUT, PUTTING TOGETHER A WEBSITE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO TO TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS NEED TO BE DONE.
UH, PROMOTE, PROMOTE A LOT ELECTION.
IT'LL BE A FULLY TRANSPARENT, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR INFORM THE, UH, CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.
BUT IT'LL ALSO WILL HAVE THE INTERACTION WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS THE CITIES.
UH, AS WE DO THIS, NOBODY WILL BE LEFT OFF
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TO THE SIDE.WE WON'T BE ARGUING ABOUT 10 ME HERE, 10 ME PROFESSIONAL.
WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO GET BACK IN THAT SITUATION.
IN, IN THE PARKER COUNTY SITUATION UP THERE.
THEY, OF COURSE WE, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING KIND OF SHAKES OUT, BUT WHAT THEY DID, THEY PUT $1 MILLION IN EACH COMMISSIONER'S PRECINCT TO FIND, TO USE THAT COMMISSIONER DISCRETION.
SO IT IT COULD, IT COULD REDUCE YOUR, I MEAN IT COULD HELP INCREASE YOUR PAVING BUDGET OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
OR YOU COULD USE THAT MONEY TO, UH, AT YOUR DISCRETION.
YOU COULD USE IT TO ASSIST THE CITY IN SOME OF THEIR FUNDING FOR A PROJECT THAT MIGHT BE RANK BY THE CITY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS IN THERE.
DON'T LEAVE ANYTHING ON THE TABLE.
THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE THAT'S THAT WE WE'VE MISSED ON IN THE PAST.
AND BECAUSE WE WERE NOT READY, I WANT GET READY.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN THING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO BE AS FAR AS BEING IN LINE FREE FUNDING.
THAT DOES, I THINK IT SHOW HOW INTERESTED WE'RE IN THAT OTHERWISE TAKEN.
BUT WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS UH, ACTION WILL DO IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY IS GET US IN LINE TO GET THE LAW FROM THE COUNCIL, GOVERNOR FROMT AND UH, AND THEN START THE PROCESS.
WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOND PROCESS.
SO SHE AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO HELP US DO THIS.
SO IT'LL BE, THIS IS JUST THE VERY BEGINNING PART THAT WE NEED TO, BUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THE ONLY WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IN A WORKSHOP.
SO YOU DON'T KNOW THIS, I DON'T WANNA THINK NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS ANYWAY, FORM PAST IT'S GOING TO.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTION THING DONE PER CHANCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DEBT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE GONNA KNOW TO THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US AGREE TO, IF WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE SPLIT FOUR WAYS.
IF, IF IN CASE WE, WE DON'T PRIORITIZE.
SO EVERY, EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE ON THE HOOK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE IT GOES WHEN YOU SAY SPLIT WASTE, SIR, WHEN YOU SAY SPLIT FOR WASTE, WHAT YOU MEAN? YOU MEAN FROM EACH RB DISTRICT? FROM EACH EACH COMM COMMISSIONER IF IT CHANCE WE DO GO FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND LOAN.
AND PER CHANCE WE GO THROUGH THE WHOLE SCENARIO OF THE BOND ELECTION IS NOT SUCCESSFUL, WE'RE STILL GONNA OWE A HUNDRED THOUSAND BUCKS.
BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYBODY TO KIND OF, I DUNNO IF WE CAN AGREE TO IT OR WHATEVER, BUT I WOULD, MY SCENARIO WOULD BE THAT ALL FORBES WOULD PAY THAT COST EQUALLY AT OUR 25,000.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE FORM OF MOTION RELEASE.
I SEE IF I GET ANY I HADN'T HEARD THAT BEFORE THOUGH.
THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO, MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT BY FORCED TO DO IT.
EVERYBODY HAS GOT A LINE ITEM IN THEIR BUDGET.
SO WHEN THIS COMES DOWN, THE YEAR WON'T BE THIS YEAR I'M SURE COME DOWN ONE YEAR THAT THAT IN, IN EACH, THAT'S NOT A FORMAL VOTE, BUT I'M, THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE.
MY HOPE THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THAT THIS ONE MY BUDDY JERRY, JARED, THAT PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY IT WOULD.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE APPLY FOR STATE OATH FROM COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS AND AUTHORIZE COUNTY A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GREEN.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON INCREASING THE PRICE FOR DISPOSAL OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE AT THE CAMP ECO STATION TO 15.
UH, JUDGE, WE'VE, UH, I'VE BEEN REVIEWING THE RECORDS AT MY ECO STATION AGAIN AS I DO WEEKLY.
AND UH, THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT I'M WEAK AND I HAVEN'T RIGHT MY RATES, OUR HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE RATES HAVE BEEN $10 FOR 25 POUNDS OF HOUSEHOLD HERITAGE WASTE.
UH, IT COST US ABOUT $15 FOR 25 TO DISPOSE OF PREVIOUSLY IN LETTING IT MATERIAL BUILD UP OUT THERE.
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HIT OF ABOUT $3,500 WORTH IT FOR, UH, THREE YEARS OUT THERE LAST DECEMBER, I BELIEVE WHEN THEY PICKED UP.I PLAN ON THAT MATERIAL PICKED UP ONCE A YEAR AND THIS WILL PUT US MORE IN LAND BREAK EVEN AND, UH, PASS OUR DATA.
SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO INCREASE THE RATES TO 15 FOR 20.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND MR. MAKES A SECOND QUESTION BEFORE WE VOTE.
BOB, PICK UP HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE IS ANY LABELED NEL, UH, BE DRAIN PLANT, UH, OIL BASE PAINT, UH, ANY KIND OF YARD CHEMICALS THAT SOMEBODY THAT IS LABELED THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T USE OR THEY'RE BRINGING A LOT OF PIECES OF BOTTLES OF THIS AND THAT.
UH, ANYTHING UNLABELED IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, BUT AS LONG AS IT'S LABELED, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT ISD AS HOUSEHOLD WOULD HAS CHOICE.
AND 15, WILL THEY BRING IN PACK OR IT'S FOR $15 FOR 25? IF THEY BRING IN TWO POUNDS, IT COSTS $15.
IF THEY BRING IN 25 POUNDS, IT COSTS 15.
AND GENERALLY THEY'RE BRING IN A, A WHOLE TRASH CAN FULL AT A TIME WHERE THEY GET THEIR MONEY WORTH.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET WHERE OUR DISPOSAL COSTS ARE IN LINE WITH THE, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING PROJECT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF TOWN AND COLTON COUNTY FOR ROAD REPAIRS.
TOWN OF COUNTY
IT GOES INTO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, BUT IT'S ON THEIR CITY ROAD AND SO WE CHARGE 'EM 700 TO FEATHER THAT BACK SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ONE UP.
OKAY, I MOVE, WE APPROVE PROJECT AGREEMENT.
COMMISSIONER CLARK MOVES THAT WE APPROVE THAT PROJECT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, MR. JACKSON SECOND MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ONE THAT, UH, I'VE ASKED TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.
WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST GENERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE, UH, ANIMAL SHELTER WHEN WE WERE DOING THE, UH, BUDGET.
BUT THE ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS THE, UH, PROPOSED KATON COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER.
UH, A PROPOSED REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS CENTER AND THE ALASKA WOULD BE THE, UH, NATIONAL GUARD ARMY, WHICH WE ARE NOW IN FULL POSSESSION OF.
AND, UH, SO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING HAS, UH, WORKED EXTENSIVELY ALREADY ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
ALL OF YOU WILL PROBABLY REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A BIG LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE TODAY, BUT I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR US TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THEM AND THEN KIND OF DECIDE WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD.
AND THIS WILL INVOLVE IF WE, IF WE ARE ABLE TO INVOLVE OTHER CITIES OR OUR CITIES AND PERHAPS CITIES EVEN OUTSIDE THE COUNTY TO HELP REDUCE THE COST OF DOING THESE.
BUT COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KIND OF GIVE US WHAT YOU FOUND OUT ON THE, UH, ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER? YES, SIR.
YOU WANT ME TO KEEP IT BRIEF? WELL, AS BRIEF AS YOU CAN, I KNOW YOU HAVE A STRONG PASSION FOR THIS.
I HAVE, UH, I HAVE, UH, DONE QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH AND I'VE GOT GENTLEMAN OVER SCURRY MANNY, WHO'S A WHITE NOVEL IN ALL PHASES OF CITY AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS YEAH, HE HAS, HE HAS EXPERIENCE UP IN COLLIN COUNTY WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER BUSINESS.
HE AND I VISITED THE SEVILLE ANIMAL SHELTER AND, UH, WE ALSO WENT TO THE GRANDVILLE BAY PLANT LAST WEEK.
AND, UM, THERE IS, UH, SEEMS TO BE SOME CONCERN ABOUT, UH, A NO KILL SHELTER.
UM, BECAUSE THE SEAVILLE PEOPLE AT SEAVILLE HAD FIVE ACRES, UH, AND A SMALL BUILDING DONATED
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TO 'EM TO BUILD A SHELTER ON.IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE AN EXTENSIVE LARGE BUILDING, A TREMENDOUS OPERATION.
UH, THEY'RE JUST WORKING OUT THE BUILDING.
IT'S NOT MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS RIGHT HERE NOW.
AND THAT NEW BUILDING OR THE FIVE ACRES IS IN CALIN COUNTY? YES, SIR, IT IS IN CALIN COUNTY.
UH, I HAVEN'T TOUCHED BASE WITH 'EM YET TO SEE IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, I'M PROBABLY OPEN A MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY.
I'M NOT, UH, I'M NOT AT THIS POINT.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN THAT, GET Y'ALL'S INPUT IN THAT MM-HMM
BUT THEY, UH, THEIR ADOPTION NETWORK, I ASKED THE MAN HOW THEY ADOPTED OUT ALL THESE ANIMALS WITHOUT, WITHOUT EUTHANIZING THEM.
AND UH, UH, HE SAID IT IS MOSTLY A TRIP TO, TO FACEBOOK AND IT'S RUN BY HIM, WHICH IS A SOCIAL MEDIA THING THAT I DUNNO ANYTHING ABOUT.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THAT MR. BROWN IS VERY UP DATE ON FACEBOOK.
SOMEBODY HELPED ME WITH A COMMITTEE AND TWITTER.
ANYWAY, UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S REALLY A, A THING THAT, UH, I NEED SOME INPUT FROM, FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S ON, AND THE JUDGE TO SEE THAT THEY, THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A, A HECK OF A PROJECT UP THERE AND, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE WEST END OF THE COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THE LOCATION IS GOING TO SUIT US OR NOT, BECAUSE IT'S STILL GONNA BE A, A 20 MILE RUN FROM COMAN.
IT'S GOING BE 35 MILES FROM MAYBANK, YOU KNOW, OVER 30 MILES, WHATEVER, AND BE 30 MILES CARROLL, 20 MILES, 15 MILES PER CORN.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE LOCATION WE WANT.
AND THEN WHEN WE VISITED THE, UH, THE UH, UH, NO KILL, I MEAN THE, UH, SPAY AND ER PLANTED AT, UH, CRALL, THEY INDICATED THAT THEY SPAY AND TER BETWEEN 60 AND A HUNDRED ANIMALS PER DAY.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS.
THEY, THEY DO IT FROM ALL OVER.
THEY GOT A GRANT TO SPACE, 750 ANIMALS IN 2010.
AND, UH, IT TOOK 'EM TWO MONTHS TO SPEND $50,000 SPRAYING THOSE ANIMALS.
UH, I MEAN THEY, IT JUST WENT LIKE THAT, THAT LADY CAUTIONED ME ABOUT BUILDING A SHELTER.
SHE SAID THAT I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THE, FOR THE SIZE SHELTER THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD.
AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT SIZE, HOW MANY ANIMALS DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA GONNA BE? BECAUSE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PICKS UP BETWEEN 12 AND 1500 AND TAKES TWO CEDAR CREEK PER YEAR.
AND WHEN SHE TOLD ME 5,000 ANIMALS A YEAR IS WHAT WE NEED TO PLAN FOR, I WAS, I, YOU KNOW, I PRETTY MUCH WAS, UH, FLABBERGASTED OVER THAT.
I ASKED HER TO TRY TO, WHERE SHE GOT THOSE FIGURES.
SHE COULDN'T PROVIDE ME WITH ANY DOCUMENTATION.
I DON'T DOUBT HER FIGURES, BUT I DO DOUBT.
OF COURSE, I'M GONNA DOUBT HIM.
THOMAS THOMAS, I SUPPOSE I KNEW THAT WAS BETTER.
ANYWAY, ANYWAY, MR. MAYO AND I HAD TWO MORE VISITS PLANNED, UH, TO COLLIN, ONE, TO COLLIN COUNTY, ONE TO THE CITY OF MESQUITE.
UM, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE UP FOR A WHOLE.
IT'S GONNA BE A HUGE, HUGE OPERATION.
UNDERTAKE THE M AND O PART OF IT.
IT'S GONNA BE QUITE LARGE FOR PERSONNEL.
THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE LARGE IF WE HAVE TO, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAD PLAN A, UH, 5,000 ANIMAL.
I DON'T SEE THAT MANY IF THEY'VE BEEN SPAYING IN NEITHER 60 TO A HUNDRED A DAY UP THERE FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
I JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S, THOSE FIGURES JUST BOG WITH MIND.
AND I DON'T SEE WHY THE CITIZENS OF CALLING THE COUNTY WOULD KEEP, UH, HAVING CATS THAT ARE NOT PAID AND HAVING DOGS THAT ARE NOT PAID.
AND WHEN IT'S COSTING THE TAXPAYER MONEY, IT JUST, IT JUST, THE EDUCATION PART OF IT, I BELIEVE WE'RE LACKING IN THAT.
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SAID IT ONCE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL THE CITIZENS OF CALLING THE COUNTY TO HAVE YOUR DOGS SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND YOUR CAT UP THERE AT THE, AT ONE OF THESE LOW COST CLINICS.
UH, THIS LADY ALSO TOLD ME THAT, AND I DON'T, I ASKED HER WHERE SHE GOT THE FIGURES, BUT SHE SAID THAT, UH, THAT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD, THE AVERAGE PERSON OWNS NINE DOGS OR CATS.
I DON'T SEE THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
BUT ANYWAY, IF, IF THEY DO, IF THEY DO, THERE NEEDS TO BE, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE SPAY IN THERE GOING ON.
IT IS COST TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY TO LET THESE DOGS AND CATS RUN AROUND.
WHAT ABOUT OUR FOLKS CURRENT CENTER? THEY WERE SHELTER.
I HAD VISITED WITH THEM IN ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO.
I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE.
THERE'S, THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB.
TOM, I BELIEVE THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT THEY SPAY AND NEUTERING.
I, I THINK WITH, UH, AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE OUT THERE REALLY DON'T CARE.
AND I THINK MAYBE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SERIOUS THE PROBLEM IS.
I THINK WITH MAYBE MORE EDUCATION OR WHATEVER, UH, BUT I THINK THERE'S A HUGE BIG PARCEL OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT ANOTHER, THEY JUST HAVE CATS AGREE.
IF THEY'LL REALIZE THAT IT IS COSTING EACH TAXPAYER OR THE COUNTY A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY OUT OF THEIR TAX BILL, THEY CAN, THEY HOLLER ABOUT THE ROAD BEING BAD AND ALL STUFF, BUT THEY'VE GOT NINE OR 10 DOGS AND CATS RUNNING AROUND THEIR HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND PICK UP SERVICE AND, AND HAUL DOWN TO HENDERSON COUNTY AND ALL THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN EDUCATE THAT ENOUGH OR WHAT, BUT I THINK OBVIOUSLY THAT'S REAL PROBLEM.
PARTICIPATE WITH SOMEBODY RUNNING AND DOING SHELTER.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET, I DON'T WANT TO SEE INTO THE SHELTER BUSINESS IF WE CAN GET, I ADMIT, BUT NOW, UH, SEE, DALLAS COUNTY, I DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO VISIT THE, UH, THE SCHEME SHELTER OVER THERE BECAUSE THE MAYOR WAS TELLING THE JUDGE AND I THAT, UH, THEIR ADOPTION RATE WENT FROM WAY DOWN HERE, WAY UP HERE.
WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
WE'RE PLANNING ON DALLAS, THE CITY OF DALLAS, SPENT $50 MILLION ON THE DOG CAT SHELTER WHERE, AND IT'S KILL THING TOO.
FOR THAT SAME $50 MILLION, THEY COULD SPAN NEUTER EVERY DOG IN, IN DALLAS COUNTY SURE.
AND WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM ANYMORE.
WELL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVER DO THIS BY OURSELVES.
WE MIGHT WANNA LOOK INTO PARTICIPATING A LITTLE BIT FINANCIALLY IN PAYING LEADER.
THEY, UH, AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE THAT FACILITY YOU CALL COUNTY.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, AND IT'S A GREAT FACILITY.
EXTREMELY PROFESSIONAL DOWN THERE.
SO SHERIFF BURNS, I KNOW HAS VISITED SOME OF THE CS AND POLICE CHIEFS AND ON THEIR ANIMAL CONTROL.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS.
I SPOKE WITH THE CHIEF OF CEDARVILLE, SPECIFICALLY ON THE SHELTER.
THE CITY OF CEDARVILLE IS GOING TO BE A PARTNER.
I JUST A GOING TO BE A CITY SHELTER APPARENTLY.
UH, AND, UH, HE WAS, UH, VERY PLEASED ABOUT THEIR ADOPTION RATE.
THEY PUT A NEW PERSON OVER THAT, THAT CAME UP WITH THIS ADVERTISING.
BUT AS FAR AS THE, THE NUMBERS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROBABLY 10 YEARS AGO RIGHT AFTER I CAME IN THE OFFICE.
AND THE, I NEVER DID SEE THE, THE NUMBER THAT WOULD BE IN THE SHELTER, BUT THEY ESTIMATED LIKE IN FIVE YEARS THAT OUR POPULATION, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE 700,000 STRAY ANIMALS IN THE COUNTY.
UH, I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE STAGGERING WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THIS.
UH, BUT THE, UH, I TALKED TO THE CHIEF ABOUT IT, AND, UH, THE CITY IS VERY MUCH APPARENTLY ON BOARD FOR THIS THING OVER THERE.
AND, UH, OF COURSE HE WAS, UH, EXCITED THAT WE MIGHT GET INVOLVED.
AND I TOLD HIM THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IT AND, UH, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS GONNA GO.
BUT I, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING.
UH, I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE ALL AVENUES.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE REVENUE PLAN OVER THERE IS OR ANYTHING, UH, BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW THEY, THEY PLAN.
I KNOW ONE THING, THEY'RE HAVING A FUNDRAISER BECAUSE I GOT SOME CORRESPONDENCE ON A RIFLE ON A 56, BUT I THINK THAT'S A PRIVATE ENTITY.
BUT THE MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO GO TOO TOWARD THAT, UH, SHELTER.
BUT THEY'RE, APPARENTLY THEY'RE GOING FULL STEAM AHEAD OF IT OVER THERE.
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TO BE A, THE CITY OF CEDARVILLE SHELTER.WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY? HAVE YOU, UH, I KNOW CHIEF LAY AND TERRELL HAS EXPRESSED, UH, A GREAT DESIRE TO PARTICIPATE.
I THINK EVERYBODY IS IN THE SAME SHAPE WE ARE.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, READ AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.
WE ALL WILL ALLOW, WE'RE GOING HAVE TO HAVE SOME HAND IN IT.
UH, I THINK ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS, THE SAME THING.
WHAT WHAT WE DO WITH 'EM ONCE WE PICK THEM UP, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, BUT CHIEF TOLD ME THAT SINCE THEY STARTED THIS, I THINK THEY HAD PUT DOWN ABOUT THREE ANIMALS, AND HE SAID, THIS IS BECAUSE EITHER HAD A INJURY OR A WERE SO ILL, OR, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME THEY GOT 'EM, THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEM.
BUT IT WAS, HE SAID IT WAS ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE TO HIM THAT THEY WOULD'VE DONE THAT WAY.
WELL, THE ADOPTING ANIMALS OUT, UH, IT, IT GOING BE A COSTLY PROPOSITION.
IT IS COSTLY RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY SCRATCHING THE SURFACE, I THINK BECAUSE WE KEEP TWO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND ALL TIMELINES.
WHAT, UH, I BELIEVE THE CITY OF NEY MAY BE BUILDING AN AVENUE SHELTER.
AND I KNOW YOU, AND I'VE HAD SOME BRIEF DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, I THINK THAN I HAVE.
DO YOU ANY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT.
THEY'RE LOT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD THAN WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING, I THINK.
BUT ONE THING THEY DID THAT WE MIGHT WANT DO IS THEY PUT IN A, A CITIZEN COMMITTEE PROBABLY INCLUDE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR WHATEVER, AS TO, UH, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO AND WHAT CAN WE AFFORD? I WOULD LIKE TO COUNTYWIDE DO SOMETHING LIKE GET THE CITIES INVOLVED IN IT AND GET SOME OF THEIR LEADERSHIP TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT, WHAT COULD BE THAT WE ALL GOT TOGETHER, OR MAYBE IT'S STATUS QUO.
WELL, I THINK THIS THING IS GONNA BECOME A REALITY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE COUNTY IS AND SEE WHAT PARTICIPATION RESULTS OF WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING 70,000 A YEAR ALREADY, AND WE DO HAVE A PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR ANIMALS, BUT THEY DROPPED IT.
SO DO 10 YEARS, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE OUT OVER $7,000 RIGHT THERE.
AND DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GUARD.
NOT THAT I THINK IN ANY FORM OR FASHION THAT WE SHOULD OPERATE AN ANIMAL SHELTER, BUT I THINK FOR US TO GET THE, THE, UH, DISCUSSION MOVING AND THE PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TAKE KIND LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THIS.
AND I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU GUYS, IS THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO? SO IF WE ARE, WE JUST, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND TOM HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH, BUT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STOP TALKING AND REALLY START TRYING TO FORMULATE A PLAN.
WE GET UPSET AT BUDGET TIME, RIGHTFULLY SO, ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IT COST US AND COST OUR CITIZENS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TIME TO, TO DO THE RESEARCH AS, AS, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING'S DOING.
UH, AND, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAKE DECISION.
THIS IS, WE'VE GOTTA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THE ROLE IN DOING IT AND THEN, UH, SEE WHERE WE SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.
THE MORE WE GET IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIX OR WE GET OTHER CITIES INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, SPREAD COST, YOU KNOW, IT IS GOING BE VERY EXPENSIVE FOR EVERYBODY.
IT'S, BUT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE TAKE THE LEAD IN IT WITHOUT IT BEING A COUNTY SHELTER? WELL, I JUST THINK TO SEE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, FIND OTHER COUNTIES, PERHAPS THERE'S BOUND TO BE OTHER COUNTIES THAT YOU STATE FACE THIS AND MAYBE WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT OTHER COUNTIES HAVE DONE.
I, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING.
AND I THINK SOME OF THESE PROOF, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE, THE FOLKS OUT ANDERSON COUNTY REALLY WANT TO RUN THE THING, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, BUT THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE A, A SITE, WHICH I THINK THE SHERIFF HAS INDICATED.
WE MIGHT HAVE SOME AREA OUT BEHIND THE JAIL THAT COULD BE RESTORED.
AND THEN THE NEXT PART OF IT, OF COURSE IS THE FUNDRAISING.
AND UH, AND YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPERATIONAL COST.
BUT AGAIN, DON'T FORGET, WE'RE ALREADY PAYING $7,000 A YEAR.
SO, AND I DON'T WANNA LET THAT GOING.
IT MAY NOT WIND UP BEING ANY CHEAPER, BUT IT MAY WIND UP BEING A, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SERVE OUR CITIES AS WELL AND WHO KNOW WE, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS INVOLVED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND I THINK THE IDEA THAT RAY TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT HAVING A CITIZENS COMMITTEE INVOLVED IN IT, LIKE, UH, UH, THE S DOING PERHAPS FOR THEIR, IS WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET SOME INPUT FROM OTHER, OTHER
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AREAS.I JUST BASED ON WHAT THE COMMENTS, I'VE KIND OF TALKED AROUND THE COUNTY TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE IN FAVOR OF YEAH, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING FOR IT THAT WE'RE AT, HAVE WE TALKED TO ALL CITIES? I, WE TALKED TO, I HAVEN'T ANYBODY, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ALL OF THEM, BUT I, I STILL WORKING ON, I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING KAUFMAN CITY OF KAUFMAN MAY BE INTERESTED, UH, IN IT.
AND, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, AGAIN, IT IS PEOPLE SAYING, YEAH, I'M INTERESTED IN IT.
AND, AND THEN BEFORE WE CAN DO ANYTHING, WE'VE GOTTA MOVE IT BEYOND JUST BEING INTERESTED.
THEIR QUESTIONS ARE, WHAT'S THE PLAN? HOW BUSY IS IT GONNA BE, AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS IT GONNA COST? RIGHT.
SO, AND I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE ANSWERS THIS MOMENT.
MS. GRIFFIN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YOU, UH, 40 MEETS THE FOURTH THURSDAY OF EACH MONTH.
YOU AT CITY HALL AT SIX 30, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME.
AND THEY ARE NOT GONNA MEET IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS IS THEIR ANIMAL? UH, YES.
THEIR, THEY CALL IT THE ANIMAL ADVISORY SHELTER COMMITTEE.
AND HE HAS LIKE, IT, THE CITY SECRETARY IS THE ONE, DOROTHY BROOK'S, THE ONE IN CHARGE OF IT.
SHE KINDA ACTS AS THE CHAIRMAN.
AND THEN THEY HAVE LIKE FIVE OTHER, I THINK IT'S FIVE OTHER MEMBERS.
AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER IS ALSO, UM, WHAT'S THE DATE ON THAT, JUDY? UH, THE FOURTH THURSDAY.
YOU AND TOM MAYBE CHECK, BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY DECIDE IF WE'VE DONE WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHO KNOW, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE'LL JUST DO IT.
BUT WE JUST UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING BE FARING OUT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR.
AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT WE DO ABOUT IT WHEN WE SEE WHAT HAS GONE UP TO IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
BUT AGAIN, WE'VE GOTTA DO TRUMP.
ALRIGHT, TOM, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THAT.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WORKSHOP THIS TWO OR THREE OF THESE OTHER ITEMS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
NEXT ITEM IS THE PROPOSED REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
AND SHERIFF, IF YOU WOULD, UH, COME AND STAND UP AND OVER, TALK TO US ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION CENTER AND WHAT ALL YOU ENVISION, UH, THAT TURNING INTO, UH, SO WE'LL HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.
AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO A NEW RADIO SYSTEM IN 2013 AT THE, UH, UH, REQUEST OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
UH, WE DON'T MAKE A CHOICE ON THAT.
UM, IS THAT STILL THE LAW? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT HAS NOTHING CHANGED AS FAR AS I KNOW.
THE, THE DIGITAL, UH, REQUIREMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN 18, UH, NOW THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY WAS PUSHED BACK TWO YEARS.
I THINK THE ORIGINAL DATE WAS 2011 ON THE NARROW BAND.
AND THEN, SO THEY MADE THE DIGITAL, THEY MAY MOVE IT BACK A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, PUSH IT BACK.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE TWO DEADLINES WE GOT, YOU KNOW, LOO RIGHT NOW.
WE, I'VE TALKED TO, UH, AND OF COURSE THE JUDGE HAS GONE AROUND WITH SOME OF THE CHIEFS AND LOOKED AT SOME REGIONAL COMMUNICATION CENTERS.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT MONEY, BUT THE, ANY KIND OF GRANT OR, OR MONEY WE GET, ESPECIALLY WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS, IF IT'S ON A REGIONAL BASIS, THEY LOOK ON THAT MUCH MORE FAVORABLY.
PLUS, AGAIN, IF WE CAN ALL, YOU KNOW, POOL OUR RESOURCES, WE COME UP WITH A BETTER PRODUCT.
UH, I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY WAS, BESIDES THE CORNING, UH, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS.
AND THE REASON, NY OR NOT, THEY JUST BUILT THAT NEW FACILITY OVER THERE.
UH, I KNOW THAT THE, THE CHIEF AND, UH, CAROL HAS BEEN VERY MUCH FOR IT.
WE'RE FOR IT, UH, KAUFMAN FOR IT.
UH, THE OTHER PLEA ENTITIES WE, WE DISPATCH FOR.
SO THEY'VE GOTTA GO WHERE WE GO.
BUT, UH, THE, UH, THE CHIEFS BEFORE THAT, HER BUDDY FOR IT, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT, IT REQUIRES, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OUTLAY IN CAPITAL.
UH, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT, I THINK IS, IS PROBABLY LOOKING AT USING THIS ARMORY FOR EMERGENCY COMMAND CENTER AND WITHIN THAT HAVE OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER, WHICH IS A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY WHEN WE START BUILDING BUILDINGS.
YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW,
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I THINK HAVE A, AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT.THERE ARE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND EVERYBODY HAS HAS SPACE NEEDS.
UH, BUT THIS, UH, COMMUNICATION THING IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT, KNOW OUR CONSOLE THAT WE BOUGHT WHEN WE MOVED INTO THIS BUILDING NOW OVER SEVEN YEARS AGO, ARE NO LONGER SERVICE IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT PART OF THE SHELF.
ONE OF OUR, AND THOSE, WE GOTTA LOOK AT YOU OPERATING OUR EQUIPMENT.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL TIME IF WE CAN GET A COMMUNICATION CENTER AGAIN, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE SOME, UH, OTHER ENTITIES HELP US.
AND ALSO, I DID TALK TO THE CHIEF VILLE ABOUT THAT HE WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED THAT ALSO LEGAL BILL WOULD LIKE TO DO ALL THE BUSINESS THEY CAN WITH KAMAN COUNTY, NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH DALLAS COUNTY.
TOO EASY TO DEAL WITH OVER THERE.
SO THEY JUST THINK THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER DEAL.
THEY JUST THINK THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER DEAL OVER HERE AND DEALING WITH THE PEOPLE IN A LITTLE MORE PLEASANT MAYBE OVER HERE.
SO, UH, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, WE'VE ALL BEEN OUT.
WE HAD INMATES OUT THERE LAST WEEK, CLEAN THAT UP, GOT POWER ON THEM AND WATER'S TURNED OFF I BELIEVE.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE ANOTHER NEED TOO THAT WE OF COURSE, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING WAS LOOKING AT, AND THAT'S OUR EVIDENCE OVERFLOW.
THERE IS AN AREA OUT THERE THAT COULD, THAT IS, UH, SECURE THAT, UH, WE CAN USE FOR THAT.
SOME OF THAT TOO, WE, WE HAVE GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH THAT BECAUSE WE CANNOT ALLOW OUR EVIDENCE TO GET, YOU KNOW, RATED OR WE CAN'T USE IT IN COURT.
WE SAW THAT HAPPEN IN COUPLE PLACES.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY A PROBLEM IF WE CAN'T MAINTAIN THE, YOU KNOW, THE NOT ONLY CHANGE OF CUSTODY, BUT THE QUALITY OF THAT EVIDENCE.
WOULD THAT COMMUNICATION CENTER AND THE EVIDENCE CENTER USE UP THAT WHOLE BUILDING DO YOU THINK FOR HALF OF IT OR NO? WELL, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO LOOK, UH, I THINK THERE'S LITTLE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THERE.
SOME TO COME IN, I THINK AND TELL US DESIGN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DESIGN COMMUNICATION CENTER IS IN, IN THE CO MANAGE CENTER.
MY THOUGHT WOULD BE THEN WE WOULD DESIGN AND USE THE REST OF THE SPACE AROUND THOSE WOULD BE TOING NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE, RIGHT NOW, OUR EMERGENCY, UH, CENTER IS WITH THROUGH THE CITY OF TER.
THAT'S WHERE STEVE OFFICE IS FROM.
BUT, UH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME GRANT FUNDING, THERE IS SOME GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
AND AS THE SHERIFF SAID, I THINK THE CHANCES IF WE TRY TO PUT BOTH THOSE TOGETHER, OUR CHANCES OF GETTING A GRANT PROBABLY IS GONNA BE GREATLY ENHANCED.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES TIME TO GET A FRIEND AND, UH, OUR NEEDS ARE, ARE COMING, YOU KNOW, FAR AS FAR AS THIS CENTER IS CONCERNED, UH, IS IS PRETTY QUICK, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DON'T WANNA RUSH OUT AND DO SOMETHING AND THEN FIND OUT, WELL THAT WASN'T REALLY WELL WITH THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNOR.
STEVE, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU, YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED, UH, YOU AND DAVID HAVE BEEN INVOLVED, UH, WITH THIS, WITH THIS, WITH THESE TWO ITEMS TO SOME DEGREE.
UH, WILL THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS HAVE ANY, ANY, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO HELP US ON COMING UP WITH A DESIGN FOR BOTH OF THESE? UH, BOTH OF THESE.
I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL OR GOVERNMENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO, THEY MIGHT STEER US IN A DIRECTION, BUT, UH, I, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON STAFF OVER THERE TO HELP WITH ANY DESIGN OR
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LOCATION.WELL, THEY HAVE TO WORK IN AN EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION BE WITH, RIGHT.
I WOULD JUST MAKE SENSE FOR TO BE THERE.
PLUS IF WE DO A FULL BLOWN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE HAVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CENTER WHERE YOU HAVE PLACES, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT BETTER HAVE COMMUNICATION THAT PLACE, WHICH MAKE IT MUCH SIMPLER AND MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE ONCE YOU GET FULL BLOWN.
IT TAKES A LOT OF SUPPORT TECHNOLOGY NOW TO DO WHAT WE GOTTA DO AND COMMUNICATE WITH WHO WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AS STATE, FEDERAL AND ALL THAT.
PUT THAT TOGETHER, THE COUNTY A LOT BETTER.
I VISITED WITH JACKSON SEBASTIAN ABOUT THIS, UH, LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK AND UH, HE INDICATED TO ME THAT, UH, ONE THING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT IS, IS FOR US TO CLEAR ALL PERMITS, PROCURE ALL PERMITS FROM THE CITY OF CAMAN AND WHAT HAVE YOU, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND THEN GET US AN ARCHITECT AND HAVE HIM DRAW ALL THAT STUFF UP SO WE DON'T MAKE, MAKE MISTAKES.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A ONE SHOT DEAL, WE DO IT ONE TIME, DO IT RIGHT.
SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST WE KEEP THAT IN MIND FIRST AND FORM WE DO ANYTHING.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON I WAS ASKING IF WE COULD FIND A MODEL THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE OUT THERE FOR THIS ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
IF, IF, DEPENDING ON HOW WE DO IT, AND I'VE TALKED TO THE JUDGE ABOUT THIS, IS IF WE DON'T OCCUPY IT UNTIL WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS PROCESS, IT'S SITTING OUT THERE WITH NOBODY THERE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME STEAL THE COPPER.
AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF AN INVITE TO THEM.
HOWEVER, IF WE CAN STAGE IT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ME NOW IS GET MY OFFICE OUT THERE, THEN WE'VE GOT A PRESENCE SO THAT SOMEBODY'S THERE AND I'M THERE ALL DAY, DAY AND NIGHT, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DETERRENT TO THEM COMING IN.
AND I THINK SO TOO, VANDALIZING THE PLACE AS AS WELL AS ADDING, YOU KNOW, UH, SECURITY ALARMS AND CAMERAS LIKE WE WOULD AT ANY OF OUR FACILITIES.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF GONNA BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
RIGHT NOW STEVE IS AT THE CITY OF HAROLD AND THANK GOODNESS, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PLACE FOR YOU TO BE THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, AN UNOCCUPIED BUILDING, KIND LIKE AN UNOCCUPIED HOUSE, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN I DON'T IF, IF WE'VE GOT POWER THERE NOW, THE AIR'S ON, I BELIEVE AND HEATING AND COOLING, I DUNNO.
ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T ASK STEVE MOVE OVER THERE.
WE GET PROBLEMS TO AND ALL THAT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY TAKE TAKE, GET YOU OVER THERE? WELL, JUST RIGHT NOW WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE WATER.
OH, I THOUGHT THE WATER DIDN'T TURN.
YOU GOT THE POWER AND THE GATS, UH, I DUNNO WHAT THE HOLD UP IS ON THE WATER.
UH, BUT IT'S GONNA NEED SOME, IT'S GONNA NEED A LITTLE BIT OF WORK BEFORE, BEFORE WE CAN MOVE INTO IT.
WHAT ABOUT YOUR, WHAT ABOUT YOUR HEAT SITUATION? YOU I TALKING ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK? THE HEAT WORKS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY AIR BECAUSE WHAT I FOUND OUT IS ONE OF THE LEGS ON ONE OF THE UNITS IS NOT WORKING.
SO IT'S NOT GETTING ALL THE POWER NEEDS ANY AIR UNTIL ABOUT NEXT MAY WILL.
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WITH THIS WEATHER.IT MAY BE A HUNDRED DEGREES TOMORROW.
WE HAVE HAVE THE, WE WE DID AND WE, I DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA REQUIRE IS A KNOCKS BOX FOR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OUT THERE, THEY CAN, CAN ACCESS THE BUILDING WITHOUT CHOPPING THE DOORS DOWN.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
I THINK SOMEBODY OUT THERE, BUT I THINK WE DO THERE SHOULDN'T BE AS TEMPORARY AS TEMPORARY CAN BE UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHO'S GONNA GO WHERE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND GET THE BEST USE OUT IT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN MOVE YOU OUT THERE WITH A, WITH A TWO 20 WITH A UNIT AND WATER TURNED OBVIOUS, YOU GET THE BATHROOM AND GOT YOUR DESK WHATEVER, UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT THINK BE A GOOD, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE BATHROOM BUT DON'T, DON'T MIND SHORT TURN RIGHT UP TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
BUT, UH, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BATHROOM.
I DON'T THINK HE CAN KNOCK THE, IN THAT RESTROOM.
YOU KIND OF CHECK WITH THE CITY AND SEE WHAT OCCUP PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT GETTING SOME, SOME CAMERAS ON THAT SO WE CAN MONITOR OVER THE YEAH.
AT THE, UH, COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, IF IN FACT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ONE TO SOME KIND OF PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OWNER, WHY WOULD THE CITY NOT, WHY WOULD WE NOT ASK THE CITY TO FOREGO ALL THOSE PERMITS? WELL, I I HAVE TALKED TO, UH, THEIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR COORDINATOR, UH, FIRE CHIEF EDDIE BROWN.
THEY DON'T HAVE AN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER DESIGNATED FOR THE CITY OF KAUFMAN.
AND I HAVE TOLD HIM THAT WHEN WE GET THIS SET UP, IF THEY WANT TO DO A JOINT EOC WITH US, THAT I, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COOPERATIVE EFFORT I BELIEVE.
I BELIEVE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE PROBABLY NEED TO EVALUATE ALL OUR COUNTY NEEDS FIRST BEFORE WE PROMISE ANYBODY, ANYBODY.
WELL, THAT, THAT WOULDN'T BE ANY SPACE THAT WOULD BE IN THE EOC THAT WE USE AND THEY WOULD JUST, WHAT DID THE COST TO LOOK AT? ONE, WHATEVER THEY GIVE YOU A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON IT COULD BEEN ON THE, UH, COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATIONS.
THE ONE I, THE ONE I VISITED WITH THREE OF THE CHIEFS WAS IN, UH, AND IT'S A PRETTY NEW FACILITY AND IT'S, I MEAN IT'S UH, IT'S TOP NOTCH.
THERE'S, UH, AND THEY'RE ADDING COMMUNITIES INTO IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T GIVE US A, THEY DIDN'T GIVE US A DOLLAR AMOUNT ABOUT WHAT IT COST TO OPERATE.
THE GUY THAT, UH, IS THERE, I GOT HIS CARD IS THE OVERSEER OR THE MANAGER OF THAT HAS RELATIVES HERE IN COUNTY.
SO HE COMES TO CA COUNTY AND HE SAID HE'D BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH US DEATH AS ANYTIME WE WANTED TO AS FAR AS THE CENTER IS CONCERNED.
SO HE WOULD BE A GOOD RESOURCE.
THIS IS RUNNING EXACTLY WHAT TIME WE RUN INTO WITH THE TRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE NEED SOMETHING, BUT NOW WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT'S WHAT'S GONNA COST THAT WE WORK FOR, AND THAT WAY WE CAN GO TO THE CITY AND SAY, YOU, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT YOU TO PAY X AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT EVEN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF REMODELING GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE IN THAT BOTTOM AREA.
I MEAN WE'RE JUST, THERE'S LOTS OF UNKNOWNS THAT WE REALLY CAN'T FAT WHAT'S GOING AND SOME OF 'EM WILL BE ABLE TO HOPEFUL WITH THEIR OWN CREW, BUT, UH, BUT SOME OF 'EM WON'T.
I MEAN THERE'S GONNA BE SOME THINGS IN THERE.
I, I WOULD ASK ONE MORE THING, UH, BEFORE WE LINE THIS UP.
MY GUYS BEEN WORKING DOWN THERE ALL LAST WEEK.
WE APPRECIATE PRETTY WELL GOT THAT BACK LOT CLEANED UP WITH HELP PERMISSION S BEING ALSO, I THINK THEY WERE FINISHING UP OUT THERE THIS MORNING WHERE WE COULD START WORKING ON THAT DIRT PILE AND FILLING THAT DITCH BECAUSE THAT LOT WOUND UP BEING A WHOLE LOT BIGGER THAN WE FIRST THOUGHT WHEN WE WENT DOWN.
AND UH, ON THE BACK SIDE OF IT, THERE'S SEEMS TO BE SOME TANK TRACKS THAT MADE BY ARMY TANKS ABOUT TWO AND I MEAN IT'S A MAINTAINER UP THERE.
I THINK WE CAN JUST SHAVE THAT DIRT OFF AND CARRY IT BACK, DEAL THAT BEFORE IT DOES START RAINING.
THE TOTAL PROPERTY IS LIKE 4.3 ACRES.
BUT THE, THE BUILDING LIKE SAY THAT'S AN EXPENSE, BUT THE STICKS AND WIRE AND STUFF LIKE THAT EVERY HERE, THAT'S, I SAY THAT'S NOTHING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS
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GOING COME IN, THAT'S GOING REMODEL, PUTTING UP WALLS AND DOING THINGS LIKE THAT.THAT'S GUY GEORGE HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THAT ALSO.
HE'S, I THINK HE'S GOT A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING, I THINK RAY'S TALKING MORE ABOUT THE RADIO EQUIPMENT.
HAS GEORGE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT? WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND, AND MY SUGGESTION FOR BOTH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND THE COMMUNICATION CENTER IS TO DO WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL A COMPUTER FLOOR.
IT'S A RANGE FLOOR ABOUT FOOT.
THAT WAY EVERYTHING CAN RUN UNDERNEATH THAT.
YOU CAN MOVE IT HOWEVER YOU NEED, BUT IT'S A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE.
BUT IN THE LONG TERM IT ALLOWS YOU TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE IN WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING WITH THE ACTUAL WELL WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, USE, UH, A LOT OF THAT EQUIPMENT BOTH FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICER.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY HELP.
WELL, WE NEED TO GET CONSULTANT.
YES, YOU COMPETE IN THAT BUSINESS, BUT WHAT YOU GOT THE BEST.
AS FAR AS THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER GOES, THERE'S SOME HELP THAT CAUSE FOR THAT.
UH, AND THEN THERE MAY BE FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS, I JUST DON'T KNOW.
BUT UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK TO THEM.
UH, I KNOW SEVERAL OF THE RURAL COUNTIES AROUND THIS REGION THAT HAVE SYSTEMS ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND, YOU KNOW, GET SOME PICTURES AND INFORMATION FROM THEM TO HELP US IN OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
WELL, UH, THIS WAS A DISCUSSION WE NEED HAVE JUST TO JUST KIND OF TO WHERE WE'RE, AND UH, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT INTO IT.
MR. MANNING IS KIND OF THE, THE LEAD PERSON ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND, UH, SOMEBODY LIKE THE VOLUNTEER TO BE, UH, AND I CERTAINLY WORK ON BOTH OF THEM, BUT WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO KIND OF BE THE LEAD PERSON AS FAR AS THE UH, NATIONAL GUARD ARMORY AND HOW WE WORK WITH THE SHERIFF, STEVE, ON THE USE OF THAT FACILITY? AS FAR IDEA BEING, WE'VE GOTTA TALK ABOUT THE PARTNERS.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTA PUT US TOGETHER A GAME PLAN.
SO, UH, IF SOMEBODY'D LIKE TO VOLUNTEER AND DO THAT, WE'LL ALL WORK ON IT, BUT WE KIND OF NEED SOMEBODY, UH, THAT WOULD HELP, HELP MOVE THAT.
SO, SO THEY HAVE A TWO OF THOSE TWO DO THAT.
AND SO YOU AND UH, JERRY, JERRY WILL, WILL WORK TOGETHER AND THEN I'LL WHERE I CAN, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING TO TALK THESE AND THEN YOU LIKE TO SAID WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, UH, EVALUATE THE OTHER COUNTY'S NEEDS OUT THERE TOO BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO.
YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THIS JUST GIVES US WHAT I WANTED TO DO TODAY, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PUT THIS IN PUBLIC DOMAIN THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THESE ITEMS AND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK AS MAKE IT WORK, WE CAN, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT ON SOME OF THESE, THE TRANSPORTATION, NOT TRANSPORTATION, BUT THE COMMUNICATION ISSUE AND THE, UH, REGIONAL OPERATIONS CENTER OR COUNTY OPERATIONS, EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT CHOICE ON IT.
WE'VE GOTTA TRY DON'T ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
WE COULD JUST KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT MAY BE WHAT WE WIND UP DOING, BUT WE OUGHT INVESTIGATE AND THAT'S INTERESTING.
CAN I ASK A CLARIFICATION QUESTION? SURE.
UH, RAY AND TOM ARE DOING THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
WHICH ONE OF Y'ALL WANT THE STRAY ANIMAL 24 HOUR NUMBER? I'M ALREADY GETTING THOSE SIR.
HE HE, HE'S THE CHAIRMAN CHAIR.
WE DON'T NEED ANY, ANY UH, ACTION ON THAT, BUT AT LEAST IT'S NOW WE, WE CAN START KIND OF MOVING FORWARD, UH, SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
LET'S TAKE A BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO ITEM 11.
ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
HOW, HOW? GIVE THEM A WE'LL GIVE THEM A LITTLE DOWN.
LET'S NOT BE ANY, HAVE YOU KILLED ANY HOLD? THERE'S BEEN SIX
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ON, THERE'S SIX ON THE MASTER LIST AND I'M SUPPOSED TO GET A REPORT FROM MY MAIN GUY AT TWO O'CLOCK.ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A LOT OF LINE ITEM TRANSFERS END OF THE YEAR.
WE'LL START WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
WE'RE CERTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUES FOR THE CRI GRANT REIMBURSEMENT FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EQUIPMENT $2,490.
AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION I'LL LEAVE JUST THE ONES OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND THE DA'S OFFICE, WE GOT A $6,600 CHANGE BETWEEN SALARY CATEGORIES.
UH, JUST HAD IT WRONG, WRONG LINE ITEM 86, DISTRICT COURT WE'RE, UH, MOVING 7,000 7 74 AND THE SALARY FOR ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR.
THIS WAS DUE TO THE, UH, RETIREMENT RESIGNATION INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE, THOSE FUNDS BUDGETED.
WAS IN THERE LOST TIME QUALITY, RIGHT? YES.
AND SINCE WE PAID, WE'VE GOT TO GIVE THE BUDGET, UH, JP ONE, UH, I THINK IT WAS A PART-TIME SECRETARY, BUT A LITTLE BIT OVER THE BUDGET.
UH, ACTUALLY JUST BETWEEN THE SALARY CATEGORY THIS YEAR.
SO NO ADDITIONAL MONEY INVOLVED.
THE JURY BOND INCREASED PETTY JUROR COSTS 1065 JURY.
IT INCREASED SALARY FOR MEDICAL OFFICERS.
4,074 IN COMPARISON TO REPLACEMENT THOUSAND THREE 18 WITH REDUCTION TO IMAGING.
THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT THERE WAS BECAUSE WHEN WE UH, UH, HAD THE MEDICAL CONTRACT, WE KIND OF MOVED ALL SALARY FOR MEDICAL OFFICERS OUT OF THERE AND, AND THERE'S STILL A PSYCHOLOGISTS OUT THERE THAT WE'VE FORGOT ABOUT.
SO GOTTA GET IN PAID, UH, CHILDREN'S SHELTERS, SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS INCLUDING, UH, PART-TIME YOUTH WORKER IN 2008 20 AND INSURANCE COSTS 3,646.
BUT JUST MOVING THOSE BETWEEN EXPENSE CATEGORIES AND THAT'S IT.
WHAT WAS THE INSURANCE FOR? YOU SAY INSURANCE? UH, IN THE CHILDREN'S CHAPTER.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH INSURANCE THAT IS.
I THINK IT WAS, WAS PART OF THEIR LIABILITY LOAN WENT THROUGH THIS, UH, BUILDING OR, OR PERSONNEL.
I BELIEVE IT'S BUILDING BECAUSE THEY PAY THEIR BUILDING INSURANCE EVEN UP THERE ON POLICY.
OTHER OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? MAKE THAT MOTION.
ITEM 12 IS, YOU SAID THERE WAS, DID SOMEBODY GET A REGULAR? JUST MUST BE.
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I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE FRENCH TERM.I TALKED TO JACK ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK.
AND UH, HE'S HAD A HARD TIME GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO WORKSHOP.
HE WAS JUST GONNA CALL THE GUY IN.
IS THIS MONTHLY RIGHT HERE? UH, NO.
JANITORIAL WORK REGULAR THAT JUST KYLE.
SHE DOES, THEY TAKE CARE OF RESTITUTION.
IT ALWAYS GOES UP AT BUDGET TIME.
LOOK AT THE THIRD DRAWER IN MY CABINET.
WE STILL HASN'T TAKEN THAT FOR ACCOUNT.
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200 FACTS.OKAY, SO THAT DID COME BACK BY 22 DID COME BACK IN.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOME SHOWED THAT I DID COME IN OFF IN FRONT.
SOMEBODY'S YOU DOING THAT? OH THE D EQUIPMENT.
PARDON? THE EQUIP GRANDFATHERS FROM THE, OKAY.
DOES THAT BEING YOUR FAIR CASE? SHERIFF'S OFFICE WANTED, I DUNNO HOW THAT WORKS.
IT COST YOU MORE THAN THEY WEREN'T EVEN USING $1 MAN.
WHAT IS THIS $1 COULD BE, DIDN'T HAVE WE BUDGET? GO OVER A PENNY.
HOW MUCH DID YOU FOR THE CHILDREN'S?
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THAT'S YES WE QUARTERLY.THERE'S YOU'RE TAKING THAT AS A, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T LIKE MUCH WHEN I WAS PUTTING STRETCH.
STRETCHING THOSE PARDON? AFTER OH TOO PICKED UP TRASH A SHE DOWN.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TECH? VOICE COVER HAPPENED? YEAH, THEY JUST, THAT BLOCK FIELD GOAL BEFORE FIELD, THE BLOCK FIELD GOAL AND OUR KICKING A FIELD.
WE THE FIELD NOW WE'RE DOWN 12.
YOU SCORED ONCE THAT YEAH, THAT FIELD EMOTIONALLY.
I WATCHED THAT GAME WITH MY FUTURE SON-IN-LAW GUY.
I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA TEAR THE THING OUTTA HIS HOUSE.
I MEAN HE WAS SO AT 14 YARD I A PICTURE.
PAYING YOU TO GO OD OH DID YOU GO? BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TO CALL.
I THERE IS AN OPEN MEETING DEAL GOING I GUESS COURTHOUSE I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH.
HOW YOU, HOW YOUR MOTHER AND DEATH.
CHAINSAW A TREE OR SO TRYING TO SOMETHING JUST DON'T TELL ME HEY, YOU KNOW IT'S BETTER.
WHEN YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRYING TO GET THIS THING STARTED, I THINK WHAT I'LL DO IS, UH, I DON'T YOU WERE THERE.
YOU WANT ME TO MATT? WHAT? I ALREADY HAD REAR ENDING INJURY.
DID YOU? THIS HAPPENED ON THE GOLF.
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THEY LL IT'S TRY.HOW DON'T THEY SEND THAT? THE HOSPITAL CHARGED 2000 GALLON AND THEY CHARGED ME $60 6 CENTS.
THAT'S $30 AND A QUARTER A THOUSAND.
AND THERE I FURNISH FROM DANG WATER WHEN THE CITY RUNS OUT WATER AND THEY CHARGE ME FOR WATER TO TAKE IT SOON.
BUT A LITTLE PROBLEM MAY I SUPPOSE.
PARDON? BETTY'S NOT EVEN AWARE.
SO ANYWAY, THE MORAL OF THAT STORY IS IF YOU'RE ON THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THERE'S A 40% CHANCE YOU GONNA HAVE A KNEE OPERATION
IT WOULD'VE BEEN IS THAT LEGITIMATE FIRST? I'M NOT THE JUST SEND IT BACK.
REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIALTY BEFORE.
THEN BE AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS, GET EVERYBODY SIMPLER.
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SOMEBODY OUT.THIS IS FOR YOUR FIRST YEAH, WELL IT'S YOUR TAKE.
I'M BEING EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE.
IT BEING A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, WHAT WE CALL BEING A PHYSICAL CONSERVATIVE.
I THINK SHE COMES BACK NATURALLY.
DO YOU THE SAME GUY? HER MOM A PRETTY GOOD SALES PERSON.
YEAH, WE JUST, THE, WE BOUGHT SOME OF THE DEAL LAST YEAR.
WAS IT PERSONAL? FIRST GRADE QUALITY JUDGE.
WHAT'S A T-BONE? ST STEM OR A SERVE ON A ST.
I KNOW IT SAYS IT'S GOT AN INCH THICK FIVE A GREATER, I ALWAYS CALL HER AND FIND OUT ANYWAY.
IT JUST DOWN THAT FRONT PAGE, YOU KNOW.
WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO READ THAT EVERYBODY? WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED PAYMENT FOR THE YEARS.
SHE'S WHAT YOU GOT? YEAH, SHE SHE'LL COME ON NEW BUDGET.
IT'S THIS, THAT'S THIS YEAR RIGHT? THIS ONE? NO, THAT'S LAST YEAR.
THAT'S THE END OF THE YEAR THIS YEAR.
ANYTHING ON UNTIL TODAY? IS THIS ESTIMATED IN ABOUT LAST YEAR.
OH THAT'S OFF UNTIL LAST YEAR? YES.
WORK THE LADIES, WE WE WORKED AT HER HOUSE CAME TO THE THING.
DIDN'T THAT, I JUST DIDN'T FEEL YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
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I PREACHER SKIPPED WORK ALL A NOW WHAT IS THE RED HU PATCHES, WHATEVER THAT'S FOR WHATEVER HAPPENED TO UNIFORM.JACK'S GONNA CALL GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON IT.
SO HE JUST GONNA CALL THE GUY IN MAKE DECISION.
IT'S JUST GONNA SAVE THE WORKSHOP HOURS.
I THEY CHANGED THEIR BILLING IT LIKE I WOULDN'T THINK THAT I I SHE GOT COPY OF THAT FROM ON THE PHONE.
NOW MARTIN IS HAVE STAND TRYING.
I'M JUST WAITING ON IF WE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO WORK OVER THE ALREADY CALLED AND LET HIM KNOW.
THAT WAS A TERRIBLE, I GOT HOME ABOUT HALF TIME.
THE SCORE WAS ALREADY OH YEAH.
I GOT SANDY ME UP CUP OF OUT THERE AT HOME.
I WENT ON HOME SO I COULD WATCH THAT GAME.
I WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE CITY OF COTTON.
WHO LIVED TO BE WHAT, 29 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE SOMEBODY JUDGE UP KILLED.
HE'D GIMME THIS PART AND THE GUY GETS KILLED OFF OF THE FIRST ACT.
BUT YOU MARRIED THREE OR FOUR TIMES, WEREN'T YOU? OR WAS THAT SOMEBODY? NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS HIS WIFE.
MARRIED EVERY TIME SHE TURNED AROUND.
EVERYBODY SHE MARRIED LOSING HUSBAND.
OH, THAT WAS WAS, I ALSO DID THE, THE COAST WALK THING.
AND I HAD, I WAS A DIFFERENT CHARACTER BUT I WAS A GUY THAT STARTED REALLY POETRY.
HIS NAME WAS, UH, ELIJAH TURNER.
HE HAD A LITTLE STORE THERE CALLED TURNER'S POINT.
EVERYBODY'S COMING FROM SHREVEPORT TO DALLAS.
BUT HE HAD LIVED, HE MOVED TO SAN AUGUSTINE IN, I FORGET THE DATE, BUT IT WAS STILL A PART OF MEXICO AT THAT TIME.
REALLY? BUT IT WAS IN TEXAS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN TEXAS, THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE A KID, RIGHT? YEAH, TEXAS INDEPENDENCE CAME ALONG AND SO HE, HE WENT OVER AND SIGNED UP FOR SOME OF THAT FREE LAND THAT THEY WERE GIVING AWAY.
I DON'T THINK IT EVEN COST HIM ANYTHING.
HE GOT A LEAGUE AND A LABOR BOARD SPELLED LIKE LABOR BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOLD HE GOT 2,650 ACRES OF LAND FROM NOTHING AND HE SIT, HE COULD PUT IT WHERE HE WANTED IT.
HE SITUATED IT BETWEEN KAMAN COUNTY AND HUNT COUNTY.
HE TURNED, I GUESS IT WENT ALL, HE GOT A SURVEY THERE.
A SURVEY YOU SAID BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND LAKE COUNTY? UH, YEAH.
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THAT'S CRAZY.ARE Y'ALL GONNA QUESTION EVER ENTRY
THERE WAS ONE IN THERE FOR A DOLLAR QUESTION.
YEAH, THEY'RE WAITING ON THAT.
I MAY AS QUIT IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA RUN AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I GOING TO DO WITHOUT YOU.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
I CAN'T HEAR ANYBODY UP THERE TALKING FOR $7,000.
YEAH, YOU HEARD THAT DIDN'T 700 BUCKS.
TWO NEW KNEES AND YOU ARM CAN'T HEAR.
YOU SEE? OKAY, I CAN SEE PRETTY WELL I TO GO TO, WHAT'S HIS NAME TO DO THAT? DALLAS CITY EQUIPMENT.
I JUST CHECKING MAN FOR INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW I HAD, I MAY HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THIS.
I HAD THOSE CHRISTIAN GALLON TANK GAS WORKED GOOD FOR SO YOU USE AND AND THEY JUST POKE THAT DOWN BECAUSE THEY GRIP AND BECAUSE WHEN IT UNFOLDS IT'S EXACTLY ON EACH SIDE.
GET FRESH GAS NOW INSTEAD PULLING 10 TIMES.
MY CLOTHES ARE GOING OUT OF STYLE.
WHERE'S JOHNNY COME? HE'S ALREADY GONE TO EAT.
HEY, WE GOT ABOUT TWO MORE PAGES.
WELL, WE ALL ARE Y'ALL, YOU SIR? I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ON OUR PAYMENT.
ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A COMMISSIONER.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECOND MOTION.
NOW I'M A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE PERMIT.
COMMISSIONER MANNY MAKES THAT MOTION.
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