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UH, MEETING OF THE
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE IN NEW DIGS, I GUESS, UH, TODAY.
AND, UH, I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A SOUND SYSTEM HERE, SO WE'LL TRY TO TALK LOUD OR YOU CAN, UH, MOVE UP.
MUST, MANY OF YOU MUST BE BAPTIST, BUT, UH, YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP.
AND AT THIS TIME, WE WILL, UH, HAVE OUR INVOCATION, WHICH COMMISSIONER MANNING WILL GIVE PLUS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO BOTH FLAGS.
AND THEN, UH, IF YOU, UH, ARE HERE TODAY AND YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE HAVE ON THE, ON THE RAIL THERE, THERE IS SOME FORMS FOR YOU TO FILL OUT IF YOU HEAR AND WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOUR COURT.
SO, WOULD YOU JOIN ME NOW AS WE STAND FOR OUR, LET US PRAY.
OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVEN, AND FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE REIGN THAT YOU SENT US OVER THE WEEKEND.
THE LORD LOOKED DOWN UPON US, GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE DECISIONS OF THE COUNTY THAT WILL BENEFIT THE TAXPAYERS IN THE MOST BENEFICIAL MANNER.
KEEP US SAFE, LORD, WATCH US WATCH OVER ALL THE TROOPS OVERSEAS AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
THROUGH THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THROUGH THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD WON AN INDIVISIBLE.
IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE COURT AT THIS TIME, IT WOULD BE, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO STEP FORWARD.
IF ANYBODY WISHES TO, UH, DO THAT, WE DO HAVE THE FORM WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU COMPLETE.
LOOKS LIKE, UH, EVERYBODY THAT I SEE IS, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, HERE FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
BUT, UH, IF ANYONE WANTS TO DO THAT, NOW'S THE TIME TO STEP FORWARD.
UH, NEXT ITEM, UH, WILL BE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DISPENSE FOR THAT.
UH, YOU HAVE THE, UH, ITEMS THAT I PUT ON, UH, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
ONE OF 'EM IS, UH, A LETTER FROM THE, UH, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF COMBINE, UH, MAYOR RATLIFF RATLIFF, UH, TANYA RAT, WHICH SHE, UH, THANKS, UH, OUR FIRE MARSHAL AND OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, STEVE BOWEY, FOR THE WORK THEY DID IN FIGHTING FIRES THERE FOR THE COMBINE AREA.
AND OF COURSE, I THINK YOU GUYS WERE ALL OVER THE COUNTY PROBABLY AS WELL, BUT IT WAS NICE TO GET THIS VERY NICE LETTER FROM, UH, THE CITY OF THE COMBINE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEGUN DISCUSSIONS, PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS AT LEAST ABOUT, UH, THE UPSTAIRS RE UPSTAIRS REMODELING OF THE, UH, UH, OR NOT NECESSARILY REMODELING, BUT THE RENOVATION, I GUESS, OF THE UPSTAIRS OF THE ANNEX BUILDING.
AND, UH, ANGIE, UH, WENT THROUGH OUR FILES AND, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME WORK TO ACTUALLY WHERE THE RENOVATION WAS TALKED ABOUT BACK IN 2006.
AND JERRY, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED.
I'VE FORGOTTEN THAT KEN HAS DONE THIS.
AND, UH, SEVERAL OF US, UH, TOURED THAT FACILITY, UH, UH, LAST WEEK AND, UH, JUST TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT ALL WILL NEED TO BE DONE.
AND IT IS A VERY NICE AREA, ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW, MR. MURPHY, UH, HAS SEVERAL HUNDRED BOXES OF, UH, UH, ELECTION INFORMATION AND TAX INFORMATION.
THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THERE AS WELL.
AND SO THAT'LL HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE UPSTAIRS.
AND, UH, THAT'LL BE, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE REMOVE IT AND PUT IT SOMEPLACE.
UH, UH, SOME OF IT MAY BE ABLE TO BE, UH, UH, RECYCLED, BUT WE'VE GOTTA CHECK ALL THAT OUT BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING WITH THE, UH, WITH THE UPSTAIRS AREA.
AND, UH, OF COURSE, UH, THERE ARE RUMORS ABOUT THAT BUILDING NOT BEING, UH, STURDY ENOUGH UPSTAIRS.
AND, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, UH, AN ENGINEERING REPORT, UH, TALKING ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, DONE AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THE SECOND STORE, UH, STORY IS, IS USABLE.
UH, JUST BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BOXES THAT I SEE UP THERE.
IT'S,
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I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IT WILL NOT BE, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, UH, GET UP AN ENGINEERED FIRM OR SOMEONE TO LOOK AT IT.AND THEN, UH, UH, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET SOMEONE SUCH AS THIS GENTLEMAN, MR. UH, HILL, I BELIEVE IS HIS NAME.
WE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE AND, AND, UH, SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO IT.
BUT ANYWAYS, JUST A, IT HAS A FLOOR PLAN THERE.
AND, UH, THE IDEA IS I THINK WOULD BE TO GO IN AND USE AS MUCH OF THE EXISTING, UH, FACILITY AS IT IS, IT'S DIVIDED INTO SEVERAL AREAS AND NOT GOING AND MOVE A BUNCH OF WALLS, JUST LEAVE THE WALLS LIKE THEY ARE AND TRY TO JUST TO HONOR THE, UH, UH, THE HISTORICAL INTEGRITY OF THAT BUILDING.
BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU, UH, GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
SO YOU'LL, I THINK THAT'LL BE HELPFUL.
UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, UH, NOW IS IF YOU WOULD, UH, BE SO KIND IS MOVED TO, UH, ITEM, WHERE IS THAT? 13.
UH, WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP ANYONE FROM MISSING ANY MORE SCHOOLS TODAY THAN HAS TO BE.
AND SO, UH, UH, MR. JACKSON, UH, UH, WILL, HAS A RESOLUTION AND SOME ITEMS HERE.
AND THIS IS TO, UH, DISCUSS AND ACT ON PROVING RESOLUTION, RECOGNIZING CHRISTOPHER LEE CALLAHAN ON RECEIVING THE HONOR OF EAGLE SCOUT AWARD.
AND, UH, UH, UH, YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION THERE IN FRONT OF YOU, I BELIEVE, UH, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE JC UH, PRESENT THE RESOLUTION.
I MAKE THAT MOTION TO NO, ON ITEM 13 ON THE JUDGE.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES THE MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.
UH, CHRISTOPHER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON WILL HAVE A, UH, PRESENTATION TO LISA.
LISA WORKS WITH, UH, JACK AND HER AND HIS OFFICE.
IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND JOIN, JOIN YOUR SON, THAT'D BE GREAT.
MR. CALLAHAN HERE RESIDES IN MY PRECINCT AND HONOR ME TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS RESOLUTION.
AND THIS RESOLUTION, UH, RECOGNIZES CHRISTOPHER LEE, UH, CALLAHAN ON RECEIVING THE HONOR OF EAGLE SCOUT AWARD.
AND IT READS AS FOLLOWS, WHEREAS THE FOREMOST RESPONSIBILITY OF EAGLE SCOUT IS TO DEAL WITH HONOR THE EAGLE SCOUT.
HONOR IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL CHARACTERS.
HE KNOWS THAT EAGLE SCOUT IS TRUSTWORTHY, HIS LAW, COURAGEOUS AND CHEERFUL, AND HIS RESPONSIBILITY IS SERVICE IS VALID.
THAT HE SET EXAMPLE FOR OTHER SCOUTS ON HIS HOME, HIS CHURCH, HIS TROOPS, AND HIS COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS CHRISTOPHER LEE CALLAHAN WILL RECEIVE EAGLE SCOUTS AWARD FROM THE BOY SCOUT TROOP, THREE 90 ON NOVEMBER 26TH, 2011, THE EAGLE SCOUTS AWARD IS THE HIGHEST RANKER IN BOY SCOUTS PROGRAM.
WHEREAS CHRISTOPHER LEE CALLAHAN IS BEING RECOGNIZED FOR ITS OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AND EXCEPTION LEADERSHIP ABILITY EVIDENT BY ATTAINING THIS RANKER EQUAL SCOUTS, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COLMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT, UH, CONGRATULATE AND RECOGNIZE CHRISTOPHER LEE CALLAHAN FOR HIS CHEATING, DEMONSTRATING FIND CHARACTER, OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP, UH, UH, INVOLVED IN HIS COMMUNITY.
HE IS RICHLY DESERVING OF THIS RECOGNITION HE HAD RECEIVED.
AND HIS FAMILY AND THE FELLOW BOY SCOUTS CAN PROUDLY, CAN BE PROUD OF HIS DEDICATION AND SERVICE.
ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION COURT HERE, LIKE I SAID, THANK YOU.
WE APOLOGIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FRAMING.
HERE, SORRY ABOUT, AND I TELL WHAT? CLOSE IT ONCE Y'ALL TWO HOLD IT TOGETHER.
LIKE, LIKE I STILL PRESENT IT AND, AND SLIDE RIGHT ON HERE.
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WORKS.ALRIGHT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, YEAH.
TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU DID.
OH, WE DID SOME CHURCH REMODELATION.
FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN TAR TEXAS.
WE, UH, I REDID SOME OF THE BASEMENT NOW I PUT IN, UH, ANY, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN THAT CHURCH FIRST CHRISTIAN, THE BASEMENT PARK.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
KNOW HOW YOU LOOK UP AND YOU SEE ALL THE POTS AND EVERYTHING, RIGHT? WELL, BEEN WELL, LONG TIME
THE MEN'S RESTROOM IS RIGHT THERE.
WE PUT IN THE DROP CEILING AND PUT IT IN THE DUMP ONE, SO THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE BETTER AND IT, IT LOOKS BETTER.
WELL, WE DID PUT A, IT'S LIKE A DOUBLE LOT.
AND THEN IN THE BACK AREA WHERE THE, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHERE THE STAIRS AND THAT RAMP IS, WE, UH, PUT IN A, A SWITCH AND ANOTHER LOT SO THAT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TURN IT ON A LOT, COME ON AND SAY VISIBILITY AND IT'S ENHANCED.
THEN WE WENT TO, UH, THE WOMEN'S BATHROOM, YOU KNOW, OVER THERE WHERE THE, UH, AND WE PUT A HOLE IN THE AIR CONDITIONING AND PUT A TUBE THROUGH IT SO THAT WAY WE COULD EXTEND THE AC VENTS TO THE, TO THE SCOUTING OFFICE.
SO THAT WAY THEY FEEL A LOT BETTER IN THERE.
AND THEN WE REDID THE CLOSET AND WHERE, WHERE WE PUT THE CHAIRS IN ONE OF THE BACK ROOMS, WE THOUGHT IT S BE UP AND PAINTED IT WHILE YOU CAN PUT IN TWO SHOP LOCKS AND SET OF A LITTLE CHAIN WITH LITTLE YELLOW LIGHTS.
NOW WHEN YOU FLIP A SWITCH, THE TWO SHOP LOCKS.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AND, UH, YOU WANT STICK AROUND? YOU CAN, OR IF YOU WANT TO GET BACK, YOU CAN DO THAT.
ALL THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER, UH, TWO, THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SEVEN, UH, ITEMS ON THAT.
THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 26TH AND OCTOBER 10TH FOR ACCEPTANCE.
UH, THE DEPUTATION OF MATTHEW HEES, UH, FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON ITEM B AS WELL AS, UH, ITEM C WOULD INCLUDE, UH, GARRETT S UH, STEWART FOR THE CALKIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR DEPUTATION.
AND THEN ITEM B IS THE, UH, DEPUTATION OF DIANA BURGESS AS DEPUTY COUNTY TREASURER.
ITEM E IS THE, UH, THE CLAIMING, UH, PROCLAIMING OCTOBER THE 24TH, UH, THROUGH THE 28TH NATIONAL RIB RIBBON WEEK IN KAMAN COUNTY.
AND THE, THE MEMBERSHIP, UH, VIEW FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS IS ITEM F.
AND THEN, UH, DISCUSS, UH, AND ACT ON APPROVING THE BID RESALE PROPERTY IN THREE 10, LOCATED AT 10 99 SUNDOWN DRIVE AND CAUGHT TEXAS PRECINCT ONES.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE? THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER TAX PRECINCT.
IS IT ON? DID WE GET IT ANY TIME FOR THE AGENDA? NO, UH, NO SIR.
WE'LL, WE'LL NEED TO PUT THIS ON.
ANY QUESTIONS BY ANYBODY? DID WE NOT ALREADY APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 26TH IF WE DID? NOBODY REMEMBER? SO, AND I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
SUM, MAY MR. ROUTE MAKES THAT MOTION.
A THE OTHER AGAINST, OKAY, ITEM THREE IS, UH, JUDGE ASHCROFT AND, UH, WHETHER THE JUDGE IS HERE.
COME ON UP, UP TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON PUTTING A TICKET RIDER AND IMPORTATION OF SUCH IN PRECINCT TWO CONS CARS ALONG WITH A CREDIT CARD SCANNER, AVAILABILITY FOR PAYMENTS WHEN WORKING WARRANTS TO BE TAKEN.
THIS WOULD COME OUTTA JP TWO TECHNOLOGY FIRM.
I THINK GEORGE, UH, GEORGE RIGHT HERE.
WHERE I STAND? YEAH, WE, THERE'S THE CHAIR RIGHT THERE AT THE END STAND FOR A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, BUT THOSE OF US IN THIS BABY BOOM GENERATION, WHICH I'M PROUD TO BE ONE, WE'RE JUST KIND OF LIKE AFRAID OF TECHNOLOGY SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON DON'T QUITE TRUST IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE DECIDED TO EMBRACE IT.
AND, UH, IN OUR TECHNOLOGY FUNDS, WE, WE COLLECT SO MUCH PER CITATION FILED IN THE COURT, AND THIS FUND BUILDS UP OVER THE YEAR.
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AND ACCORDING TO THE CODE OF COURT PROCEDURE, WE CAN ONLY USE IT FOR THOSE THINGS THAT TECHNOLOGY CAN'T BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS.SO I WANT TO ASK YOU IF YOU'VE GOT THIS ISSUE OF COURTS TODAY.
UH, IT WAS THE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, AND IT IS JUST FULL OF INFORMATION WHEN I WAS GETTING READY TO COME AND ASK Y'ALL TO RELEASE SOME OF THESE TECHNOLOGY FUNDS.
SO FOR THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP, I FOUND SEVERAL ARTICLES IN HERE THAT I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON, IF I MAY.
ONE WAS, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN THE FUTURE, UH, TO CONSIDER SOME COUNTIES, UH, LIKE COLLIN AND SMITH COUNTY ARE GOING PAPERLESS.
NOW, IF YOU CAN GO PAPERLESS, YOU CAN GO PAPER ON DEMAND AND YOU CAN SAVE, I THINK SMITH COUNTY SAVED ALMOST A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
SO I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE AS FAR AS TECHNOLOGY, UH, FOR THE COURTS AND TO SAVE A LOT OF, UH, MONEY THAT WAY AND TIME.
AND, UH, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE VIDEO ADMINISTRATION AND THAT'S BEEN REALLY A GREAT THING TOO TO USE TOO.
BUT DPS BACK IN, UM, JUNE ODYSSEY, WHO WAS USED FOR OUR COURT SOFTWARE SYSTEM, UH, THEY IN, UH, INSTITUTED, UM, THE DPS IMPORTATION CITATIONS AND THAT, THAT HAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF ADVANTAGES TO IT.
UH, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THE TROOPER'S OUT THERE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD DESCRIBING A CITATION, AND IT'S AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, HE CAN IN INPUT THAT INTO HIS WRITER, HIS TVS, WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY, THEY HAVE IT IN.
SO YOU, YOU GO AND THEY ISSUE THE CITATION.
IT'S DOWNLOADED, IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE COURT THAT IS FILED IN.
IT GOES TO THE COURT, THE CITATION IS THERE.
WHEN THE CLERKS COME IN THE NEXT MORNING, THAT TRUCK DRIVER THAT MAY HAVE GOTTEN A TICKET ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AT ONE O'CLOCK MAY HAVE STAR STOPPED AT A TRUCK STOP, WENT TO, UH, GOT HIM A COMPUTER, HIS LAPTOP, AND MAY HAVE PAID THAT TICKET ONLINE SO THAT TICKET COULD HAVE BEEN FILED AND PAID FOR BY THE TIME THE CLERKS GET IN THE OFFICE THE NEXT MORNING.
NOW THERE'S OTHER APPLICATIONS FOR THIS TICKET RIDER.
UH, THEY CAN ALSO, UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE TECHNOLOGY AND IT'S NOT ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, TO DO E COMPLAINTS.
THAT'S WHERE THE OFFICER, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GO TO COURT ON THEIR TICKET, THEY CAN ENTER A NOT GUILTY PLEA AND SEND THAT IN ONLINE.
AND THEN WE CAN SET IT UP FOR COURT.
THEN THE COMPLAINT HAS TO BE SIGNED BY THE OFFICER.
THAT'S DONE BY COMPUTER ON WITH E-SIGNATURES.
THIS CUTS DOWN A LOT OF TIME AND GAS AND MONEY AS FAR AS THE, IN THE PAST, THE TROOPERS HAVE BEEN BRINGING THEM PHYSICALLY TO THE OFFICE.
THEY WOULD TAKE THEM TO ALL FOUR OF THE PRECINCT OFFICES, BUT NOW WE CAN DO THE EE COMPLAINTS.
AND, UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S HAPPENING STATEWIDE, JUST DOES NOT HERE.
SO WE HAVE THESE DPS TECHNOLOGY THROUGH ENCODE WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES IS THE ONE WE USE.
AND WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THEIR TECHNOLOGY FUND TO BUY A COUPLE OF TICKET WRITERS FOR THE CONSTABLES IN MY PRECINCT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE ARE, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE TOO EXPENSIVE.
UH, BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, IT WOULD BE WHEN THEY GO ON A WARRANT ROUNDUP ROUNDUPS, THEY CAN WRITE TICKETS ARE NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF BEING ABLE TO SCAN A CREDIT CARD BECAUSE GIVEN THE CHANCE OF BEING KNOCKED, HAVE A KNOCK OF OF CONSTABLE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR AND SAY, YOU NEED, YOU HAVE THESE WARRANTS YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, OR YOU CAN PAY IT ON THIS.
I CAN SWIPE YOUR CREDIT CARD AND YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT TODAY.
SO IF I HAVE A CREDIT CARD, I'D BE WILLING TO BET THAT THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT THAT DAY.
SO THAT TICKET WRITER WOULD BE GREAT.
NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY YET.
I THINK THAT, UH, OUR IT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT IMPORTATION TICKETS.
ONCE WE GET THAT THE CONSTABLES CAN USE THOSE TO WRITE THEIR CITATION.
THEY ROUTINELY, UH, WORK WITH SCHOOL ZONES AND EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THE CITY, AND SO THEY COULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE, UH, IN THE TECHNOLOGY.
AND WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN GEORGE AND HIS DEPARTMENT'S EXPERTISE, IF THERE'S A MACHINE THAT CAN SWIPE IT, I'VE HEARD THERE IS, I'VE NOT SEEN ONE.
AND, UH, BUT I UNDERSTAND DALLAS COUNTY IS USING THOSE MACHINES WHEN THEY GO OUT AND LIVE ONE, BUT THEY HAVE THE, A CAPABILITY OF SCANNING A CREDIT CARD.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SCANNING DRIVER'S LICENSE.
SO, AND, UH, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE VIDEO MAGISTRATION.
WE WERE, I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL.
AND SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT.
AND THEN LATER ON IF I MIGHT BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON THAT, I APPRECIATE IT.
SO, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY.
AND I WANT US TO EMBRACE THE TECHNOLOGY AND USE THOSE
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FUNDS THAT ARE IN OUR, IN OUR, OUR, OUR ACCOUNTS, OUR TECHNOLOGY FUND ACCOUNTS, AND USE IT FOR THE BETTERMENT AND, UH, FOR OUR CITIZENS AND SAVE MONEY AND BE MORE EFFICIENT AND ALL THAT.SO, UH, WE WANNA BE ABLE, MINDFUL OF THE COST OF THINGS NOWADAYS WITH THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE AND THE ECONOMY THAT WE LIVE IN.
SO, UM, YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT FOR PRECINCT TWO? YES.
SO THIS COULD BE A, LIKE A TEST THING TO SEE IF ALL THE OTHER, OTHER JUDGES MIGHT GO INTO THERE.
I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT, THAT THAT'S COMING AVAILABLE FOR COURTS.
AND THIS WHOLE DEAL IS, THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF THIS COURT TODAY IS DEDICATED TO TECHNOLOGY AND NOT JUST FOR JP COURTS, BUT DISTRICT COURTS.
I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF APPLICATIONS FOR THE VIDEO MAGISTRATION SYSTEM.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
YOU, YOU SAY YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE TICKET WRITING MACHINE IS GONNA COST.
NO, BUT I, I THINK THEY RUN ABOUT, I WANNA SAY ABOUT $1,500.
I'M NOT FOR SURE, BUT I I'M NOT SAYING IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE.
I MEAN, IF WE SHOULD, IF WE SHOULD, UH, UH, PASS THE, UH, THE, UH, VIDEO MAGISTRATION, UH, DEAL.
AND THIS ALSO, WILL YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN YOUR ACCOUNT YES.
TO COVER ALL THIS? YES, WE DO.
IS THERE ANY MAINTENANCE UPKEEP ON THOSE SYSTEMS? DO YOU KNOW? UH, PROBABLY THERE'S SOME, SOME MAINTENANCE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THE TECHNICAL PART OF IT.
I JUST KNOW THAT THE CAP, THE CAPABILITY IS THERE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
SO LET'S BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, IF WE PASS THIS, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND OH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND TELL US HOW IT'S GOING.
AND I'D LIKE TO BRING, TALK THE OTHER, THE OTHER JP SEE WHAT IT'S HELPFUL.
WE CAN PROBABLY GET THAT DONE QUICKER IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO WORK A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH PROBLEM WITH THAT.
REAL HANDS ON, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL VOLUNTEER, RIGHT? WELL, I THINK IF, IF YOU HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE ALREADY, IT'S NOT GONNA COST ANYMORE.
I MEAN, NO, IT'S NOT GONNA COST THE COUNTY TAX TAXPAYER ANY MONEY.
THIS, I THINK IT'S FOR MY TECHNOLOGY FUND AND I THINK IT'LL BE WELL, YOU KNOW, WELL SPENT TECHNOLOGY, IT'S CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN SPEND THAT MONEY FOR.
THERE'S TECHNOLOGY STUFF IN PRISON COURT.
ANYTHING TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY, EVEN TRAINING.
SOUNDS LIKE A TIME SAVING SITUATION.
UH, LIKE THE PATRICIA, FOR CHECKING INTO ALL THESE NEWER WAYS OF DOING THINGS, IT'LL HELP YEAH.
SPEED THE PROCESS ALONG IT, IT SEEMS, SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD.
UH, WHAT I WOULD, I THINK BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY APPROVE THIS, THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY DOLLARS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO GET A LITTLE FURTHER MORE INFORMATION, COME BACK TO IT.
UH, I'M GONNA MOTION IN A SECOND TO TELL US HOW THE DOLLAR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN, UH, WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO MAKE IT WORK WITH GEORGE MAY ALREADY, THAT WITH IV HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU HAD AN EXPERIENCE WITH THIS GEORGE BEFORE? I'LL SPEAK TO IT A MINUTE.
WHAT'S THE CREDIT CARD? WRITING BACK? WE CONTINUE TO DEPLOY FEATURES AND ODYSSEY THAT WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO DO THESE THINGS.
UM, AND AS YOU RECALL, WE'VE FORMED A COMMITTEE SO THAT WE BRING THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER, FINANCE, PURCHASING, AUDITOR.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE DELIBERATE, WE TEST AND WE LIKE TO PRESENT THESE TO COURT.
YOU KNOW, ONCE WE'VE PROVEN UP THE TECHNOLOGY, WE KNOW WHAT THEY COST AND UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL MAKE THE JUDGES ARE TOP PRIORITY, YOU KNOW, TO GET THESE THINGS DEPLOYED.
AND, UH, WE'LL WORK WITH HER TO GET ALL THE DETAILS DONE.
IT'S VERY REFRESHING AND IT HELPS US TREMENDOUSLY TO HAVE A JUDGE WHO'S, UM, EMBRACES TECHNOLOGY THE WAY SHE HAS.
AND IT JUST MAKES OUR JOB ALL MUCH EASIER.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF WE APPROVE PURSUING THIS FURTHER AND WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK WITH SOME DEFINITE NUMBERS, EVEN THOUGH KNOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE THERE AND WE TELL US WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS.
ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM WHENEVER YOU GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN ON.
BUT DEFINITELY PURSUE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.
WE HAVE MOTION COMM, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO THAT.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO DISCUSS THE, UH, TESS ROAD MAINTENANCE ASSISTANCE AND OTHER SERVICES, UH, THAT TESS PROVIDES.
AND TES, LET ME MAKE SURE I GOT THAT DOWN.
TEXAS ENGINEERING EXTENSION SERVICE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE ELDON, UM, CURLEY HERE WITH US THIS MORNING.
UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, ACTUALLY REQUESTED THAT, UH,
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UH, MR. MCCURLEY, UH, UH, COME TO THE COURT.I THINK YOU'LL FIND THIS, UH, FIND THIS INTERESTING.
SO, UH, RAY, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? YEAH, WE HAVE COME, COME BY.
AND AGAIN, MY GUYS, THIS, THIS ONE WAS SHORT COURSE RIGHT HERE.
IT WAS A A DAY AND A HALF OPERATION.
UH, THE ROAD BRIDGE GUYS WERE INVOLVED AND ATTENDED FOR THE ENTIRE DAY, WHICH COMPLIMENT TO MR. MCC CURLEY'S, UH, TEACHER TEACHING METHOD BECAUSE IT'S HARD.
I CAN'T KEEP THE GUYS INVOLVED.
WE FOR A FEW HOURS AT THE TIME, UH, WE LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF SAFETY ISSUES THAT I, WE, THAT WE PICKED UP ON THAT I WANTED MR. MCC TO COME BY AND SHARE WITH YOU OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN PURSUING THE SAME THING WITH YOUR ROAD BRIDGE GUYS.
UH, IT WAS VERY, VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE AND VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
AND THEN ALSO THE LOW COST ROAD IMPROVEMENT.
TECHNICALLY WE BROUGHT SOME ISSUES UP THAT WERE JUST SO SIMPLE NOW.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF.
I DO APPRECIATE BEING INVITED AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO Y'ALL.
I'VE GOT WITH SOME HANDOUTS HERE FOR Y'ALL IN THE, UH, ALONG WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER CLARK SAID ON THE ROAD, MAINTENANCE ASSISTANCE, UH, TAKES
DON'T, DON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST US, BUT RETIRED TECH, BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS ALL MY LIFE.
THAT ALWAYS DOESN'T MAKE YOU THAT MUCH SMARTER, BUT I TEND TO LEARN MY VISION VISITING WITH GOOD COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND I LEARNED A LOT.
I PASS ON THE GOOD STUFF AND I TRY TO KEEP THE OTHER STUFF QUIET.
AND I'VE HEARD THAT THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30 YEARS.
BUT THAT PARTICULAR, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S NOT MY BACKUP, BUT WE ONE ON ONE, WE'LL DO COME OUT AND WE'LL RIDE THE ROAD WITH PEOPLE AND, UH, ASSIST.
OF COURSE I'M NUMBER PHONE BACK TO YOU.
YOU MIGHT HAVE ROAD MAINTENANCE.
UM, I'VE GOT A WEBSITE, GOT THE EMAIL ADDRESS.
AND WE'VE GOT A HANDOUT HERE OF VARIOUS THINGS WE ALSO DO BESIDES JUST ROAD MAINTENANCE, LOCAL SAFETY, SUCH AS SIGNING.
AND I KNOW THAT IS A HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW ON THE MAJORITY PEOPLE, WHICH I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL CONFERENCES THIS YEAR.
THE TWO THAT I ATTENDED, ONE AT LUBBOCK AND ONE AT, UH, MAC ALLEN.
AND I ASKED TO SHOW UP, SHOW OF HANDS, AND THERE WASN'T ABOUT THREE PEOPLE IN EACH ONE OF THOSE GROUPS THAT YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THIS MANDATE FROM THE FEDS THAT'S COME DOWN EFFECTIVE JANUARY, 2012 EFFECTIVITY ABOUT YOUR SCIENCE.
AND THAT'S THE HANDOUT ON THAT.
AND THAT'S BEEN PROMOTED OR THEY TOLD ABOUT IT IN OH SEVEN.
SO IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
TDO IS REGULARLY AHEAD OF THE GAME ON THIS.
YOU HAD ANY QUESTION THEM ABOUT THE SIGNS.
BE GLAD TO COME OVER AND SPEND A HALF DAY WITH Y'ALL ON THAT, ABOUT YOUR SIGNS.
AND ALSO HERE'S THE, UH, THE WEBSITE MANUAL UNIFORM TRUCK CONTROL DEVICE, THE M-U-T-C-D, WHICH STANDS FOR MANUAL UNIFORM CONTROL DEVICES.
AND I HEARD, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER CLARK MENTIONED TO SOMEBODY, MISSED HIM UP AGO.
THEY HAD REVISE THOSE DATES WHERE YOU GOTTA HAVE A PLAN AVAILABLE BY JANUARY OF 2012.
I WAS AT HEMPSTEAD, MET WITH A FEDERAL FHW REP THERE AND HE SAYS, NO, WE'RE DOING A STUDY.
BUT THE PLAN IS STILL INTO EFFECT.
YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A PLAN JANUARY 25TH OF HOW YOU GONNA ADDRESS YOUR SIGN UPGRADING BY 2015.
YOU GOTTA HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT MEETS THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
YOU SAID I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE MAJOR PORTION OF IT.
THAT'S SOMETHING A LOT OF US DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.
BUT THERE'S WAYS TO GET AROUND THIS THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME MONEY, GIMME A CALL WHEN GET TOGETHER AND COME IN AND BRIEF YOUR PEOPLE.
BRIEF THE COMMIT WHAT YOU, THE COMMISSIONER ON HOW TO ADDRESS THIS.
YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT'LL SAVE YOU SOME MONEY.
THINGS THAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT THERE'S A TRAINING DEAL THAT WE DO ADVOCATE IN THE EIGHT HOURS, EIGHT CE HOURS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PLUS FOUR C HOURS FOR THE LOW COST SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I KNOW Y'ALL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 16 HOURS A YEAR AND HERE'S SOME MORE STUFF ON THE LOW COST SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, RETRO REFLECTIVITY
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HERE.AND HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU DO, UH, WHEN I COME AND VISIT WITH YOU, IT'D BE YOUR CEI ACCREDITATION AND I'VE GOT A CD HERE AND NOW I'M LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS.
THE RETRO REFLECTIVITY IS A HARD WORD TO SAY.
I SAID WE'RE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN.
IN FACT, BY JANUARY, 2012, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, I THINK THE FHWA HAS KIND OF SET SOME OF THOSE THINGS BACK.
'CAUSE IT WAS, THAT WASN'T ANOTHER UNFUNDED MANDATE.
WHAT IS IT? YOUR STOP SIGN? STREET SIGNS, YIELD SIGNS HAVE TO MEET STANDARDS SO PEOPLE CAN BE ABLE TO SEE 'EM AT NIGHT.
UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GET A PLAN TOGETHER ON HOW TO DO THAT.
EVEN IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE MANDATED.
I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD SAVE US SOME LAWSUIT MONEY.
IF WE'VE GOT A STOP SIGN THAT DOES MEET YOUR STANDARDS AS OPPOSED TO ONES THAT YOU CAN'T SEE AT THAT TIME.
SOMEBODY GETS, IT'LL TAKE, IT'LL TAKE A LOT OF DOLLARS OVERALL TO GET THE THING DONE.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN WHEN IT GETS STARTED ON IT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE MANDATED.
LIKE THOSE DATES THEY WERE GONNA HAVE BEFORE THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE THIS DONE BY A CERTAIN DATE, THIS BY A CERTAIN DATE.
THEY'RE GONNA EXTEND ALL THAT OUT AND SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE COUNTY'S DISCRETION.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE.
BUT WE, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE PLAN TO START WITH.
SO BY JANUARY ALL OF US GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN PLAN ON WHAT THE PLAN ON.
WOULD IT BE A COUNTYWIDE PLAN OR EACH IT A COUNTYWIDE OR ON EACH INDIVIDUAL PRECINCT? WELL, MY GUYS ARE OUT RIGHT NOW PUTTING UP A BUNCH OF, UH, BRIDGE SIZE, WEIGHT SIZE THAT CAME DOWN FROM
I DUNNO IF THAT'S PART OF THIS OR IF THAT'S A SEPARATE THING.
BUT JANUARY, 2012, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY QUICK.
THAT'S ONE REASON WHY I WANTED MR. MCCURDY COME BY AND GIVE US THAT.
AND BY THE TIME I ASKED HIM TO DO, THAT'S WHEN THE FH W HAD KIND OF CHANGED A LITTLE, THEIR, THEIR STANDARDS UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THAT MONEY BE DONE AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE THAT PROBABLY NEED TO ADDRESS AT LEAST YOU NEED TO HAVE A PLAN, A WRITTEN PLAN.
AND I'D SUGGEST THAT SOME WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING ON THAT.
THAT'S JUST WHAT I, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT I'D ALSO DO.
AND YOU ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP US.
GET OUR TOGETHER TO DO WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS. YOU MENTIONED THAT TIME.
IT, IT KIND OF BLOWS ME AWAY ON THIS TAX TAX ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES SAID THE, THE MOST WORKMAN COMP CLAIMS FILED LAST YEAR IN THE STATE OF STATE OF TEXAS, THE COUNTY WAS GETTING IN AND OFF OF THE MOTOR.
THAT BLEW ME AWAY BECAUSE Y'ALL BELIEVE IN, I'VE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME AND I COULD NEVER REMEMBER ANYBODY GETTING HURT, GETTING IN OR OUT OF A MOTOR DRIVER.
THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS ARE.
SAFETY MEETINGS, SAFETY FILMS, ALL THIS SAFETY.
IF YOU HOPEFULLY HAD SOME OF THOSE CLAIMS, AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY OBVIOUS INJURY, BUT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MIND BOGGLING WHEN THAT WAS.
THE MOST CLAIMS I AND THE MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE PEOPLE USING THE, THE EMPLOYEES, THE OPERATORS USING THE UH, A BLADE TO GET IN UHHUH AS AN ELEVATOR.
AND THEY'LL SLIP OR FALL IN IT OR OUT OF IT, WHATEVER.
WHICH IS YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, WHICH THE NEWER MACHINES YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
YOU CAN'T USE THE, THE BLADE KNOW BETTER.
THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF LOOKING AT IS OUR WORKERS' COMP.
SO THAT'LL THE SAFETY INFORMATION.
I BELIEVE YOU GAVE US THE CD ON THAT.
THAT'LL BE UH, ON THE MOTOR RIDER.
SO THAT'LL BE, THAT'D BE GOOD.
DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD IN HAVING US GET BACK WITH, UH, VIN ON GETTING SOMETHING SCHEDULED? I'D BE GLAD TO BECAUSE HE AND I BEEN IN CONTACT QUITE A BIT WHENEVER WE GET A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED AND SO WE CAN WORK AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WORKSHOP AS WELL.
YOU CAME UP AND WORKED WITH ME A COUPLE YEARS AGO AGO.
THANK YOU YOU SOME OF THOSE LOW COST SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S VERY WELL WORTH YOUR TIME GETTING COME BY.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE, HE, HE TOLD US HOW TO DO THINGS WE SHOULD BE DOING ANYWAY, BUT WE JUST SLIPPED OUR MIND.
UH, THE GUYS WERE, LIKE I SAID, EXTREMELY APPRECIATIVE OF, AGAIN, I CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE GONNA REDUCE OUR ACCIDENT RATE OVER THERE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE, BUT YEAH, I SEE MY GUYS GETTING ON THERE GRADE ALL THE TIME LIKE THAT.
SO YOU ARE, YOU'RE IN COLLEGE STATION OR NO, SIR? I WORK OUT OF MY HOUSE.
OKAY, SO THAT WHICH FACILITY? OVER HERE AT MY HEADQUARTERS AT RIVERSIDE CAMPUS.
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OH, OKAY.IT HAD TO BE A FULLTIME THERE.
I YOU DOING THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL UH, WORK THAT IN.
WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON ANYWAY AND BE PREPARED.
THIS MIGHT BE A HALF A DAY WORKSHOP, SO WHENEVER WE GET, GET EVERYTHING DONE.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS JUDGE DAVID LEWIS, WHO IS HERE TO DISCUSS WITH US AND ASK US TO ACT ON PURCHASING VERNON'S, TEXAS STATUTES AND TEXAS JUROR PRUDENCE THIRD OF THE LAW LIBRARY.
I GUESS, I DUNNO WHETHER YOU GOT THE WORD WE'VE MOVED OUT HERE OR NOT, BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU FOUND US SO WELL WHEN I WENT IN THE ROOM, PROBABLY TRIED TO GET YOU TO EARLY VOTES.
IS, UH, GOOD NEWS IS THIS IS NOT TAX DOLLARS.
THIS IS MONEY THAT FLOWS INTO THE LAW LIBRARY PLAN EVERY TIME A CIVIL CASE IS FILED.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO ACCOUNT NUMBERS, UH, NOW COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU BETTER THAN I, BUT, UH, THERE'S AN ACCOUNT, UH, THAT EVERY YEAR THEY FLOW THE MONEY IN TOO.
UH, LAST YEAR, UH, WE HAD ABOUT $71,000 TO COME IN THERE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY SPENT 88,000, UH, AND UH, I CAN BLAME GEORGE BUSH BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO THAT
BUT ANYWAY, UH, THE MONEY THAT HAS ACCUMULATED OVER ABOUT 20 YEARS AMOUNT SPENDING 284,000.
SO, UH, I'VE BEEN CONCERNED THAT OUR LAW LIBRARY HAS KIND OF FALLEN INTO DIS MANAGEMENT OR MISMANAGEMENT.
WE NEED A NEW SET OF BURNS AND WE NEEDED A SET OF TEXAS JEWISH CREWS.
UH, I KIND OF RUSH THIS A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THE SALES PEOPLE MAYBE AN OFFER GOOD.
THROUGH OCTOBER TO SELL THOSE BOOKS AT HAND PRICE.
WELL, BASICALLY, SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF JUMPED OFF HERE A LITTLE QUICK.
AND UH, WELL DAVID, HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT NOW WITH THE, WITH THE INTERNET LIKE IT IS? CAN'T YOU LOOK UP ANYTHING YOU WANT ON THE INTERNET? OR IS IT, IS IT JUST A MORE OF A PROBLEM OR DOES THIS MAKE IT SIMPLER OR, UM, YOU CAN, UH, BUT IN FACT MY GOALS ARE TO HAVE, UH, THE BEST LEGAL RESEARCH ONLINE THAT YOU CAN HAVE.
FOR ALL OF THE JUDGES AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDANT.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THAT THE DA GETS HIS OWN LEGAL RESEARCH OUT OF HIS OWN BUDGET.
ANYWAY, UH, ALSO, UH, I WANT TO HAVE PAMPHLETS OUT ON THE, UH, BENCHES SO THE JUDGES CAN, CAN LOOK AT 'EM.
BUT ALSO, UH, THESE BOOKS ARE FOR THE PUBLIC.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE LAWS THAT SET UP LAW LIBRARIES, THE PUBLIC IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND OUT OF OUR LAW LIBRARY AND LOOK UP WHAT THEY NEED, UH, IN CASE THEY'RE REPRESENTING THEMSELVES OR, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE A LAWYER.
UH, THOSE ENCYCLOPEDIAS THAT I'VE GOT ON HERE, UH, IF YOU CAN READ, YOU CAN LOOK UP THE LAW.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN ENCYCLOPEDIA, YOU KNOW, START FROM A TO Z AND WANNA LOOK UP ANIMALS OR IF YOU WANNA LOOK UP MECHANICS LIENS, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
UH, THE, UH, THE VERNONS TEXAS STATUTES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MISSING VOLUMES.
THERE'S OUT OF DATE VOLUMES AND FRANKLY IT'S A MESS.
UH, AND IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
ALSO, I KIND OF WANT TO CHANGE THE CULTURE OF THE LAW LIBRARY.
UH, I THINK IN THE PAST THE LIBRARIANS HAD JUST DONE WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO DO.
THERE WAS A LOT OF MONEY THERE.
IT WASN'T REALLY YOUR PROBLEM BECAUSE IT WASN'T TAX DOLLARS.
BUT I, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS IT OUGHT TO BE BETTER THAN THAT.
AND UH, THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF IT.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING WILL, WILL BENEFIT THE PUBLIC.
AND, AND I DO GO IN THERE QUITE OFTEN AND I SEE PEOPLE SITTING THERE MATERIAL.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 3,800 BUCKS OR 4,000 BUCKS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S 6,000, OF COURSE IT'S SEVEN 16 BUYS BOTH SETS.
UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S AT, WELL THAT'S BOTH, THAT'S ENTERPRISE FOR BOTH.
UH, WILL YOU, WILL YOU NEED TO CLEAN OUT ALL THE OLD BOOKS AND, AND, AND PUT THESE NEW BOOKS IN WHERE THEY GO? YES.
UM, I THINK YOU, I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR PROGRESSIVENESS
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AND, AND MAINTAINING IT LAW LIBRARY.AND UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND IF, UH, MY GUYS COULD HELP YOU CLEAN THAT OUT, I'M SURE THEY PUT ON SOME RAINY DAY.
THEY'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP DO THAT.
WELL, I'LL BRING IT OVER THERE AND PUT IT UP IN THE TOP OF OUR, DON'T WORRY.
UH, I THINK PROBABLY WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE, UH, I CAN WORK WITH YOU PRETTY EASY, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS MONEY CAN BE SPENT ON HIS BOOKS.
IT CAN'T BE SPENT ON ANYTHING.
I DUNNO WHY YOU, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE BEST SET YOU COULD HAVE.
DO YOU HAVE IN THAT CABINET SPACE UP THERE? I DO.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DISPOSE OF THE EXISTING BOOKS SINCE WE'RE MISSING VOLUMES OR WHATEVER? I GUESS THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT QUITE AS, IS THAT A COUNTY PUT OPTION, HAVE TO GO UP FOR AUCTION.
I THINK WE'LL OUGHT TO THROW 'EM AWAY.
I WOULDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO PULL A BOOK OUT.
I THE OLD BOOKS OUGHT TO BE THROWN AWAY.
COURT CAN MY STATUTES, YOU HAVE TO, UH, AUCTION OR SELL, UH, DONATE SURPLUS.
IF THE COUNTY PROVES THAT WE CAN, WE CAN CRASH IT.
BUT EVEN IN, IN AN AUCTION SALE, THEY'RE GOING TO PRETTY MUCH BE, I CAN'T, I MEAN IF THERE WERE ANY GOOD I'D WANT THE JUDGE IS RIGHT.
AND OUT OF THE SET OF BOOKS IS, IS ISN'T WORTH ANYTHING? NO.
THERE'S NO WORK AT VALUE FOR WELL AS IT'S EITHER CURRENT OR IT'S OBSOLETE.
SO AS PART OF THE MOTION, WHOEVER, WHENEVER SOMEONE GETS READY TO DO THAT, WE COULD, UH, BELIEVE THE DISPOSAL OF THE BOOKS UP TO, UH, JUDGE LEWIS AND JACK BATCH THAT BE ACCEPT.
I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT BROKEN CHAIR'S NOT GOOD EITHER, BUT ALL REQUIRES IT WOULD GO THROUGH MOTION TO TRY TO GIVE IT PROPERLY.
IF WE APPROVE THAT TODAY THOUGH, WE, YOU THINK IT'LL BE OKAY.
DO WE NEED TO COME BACK? DO IT NEEDS TO BE AN ITEM SEPARATE, SEPARATE ITEM.
BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS PROPERTY IS NOT CANNOT BE SOLD, WE CAN COME BACK.
WE'LL HAVE OTHER THINGS PROBABLY AS WELL THAT GENERALLY HAVE TO PUT EVERYTHING IN ONE LOT AND FIRE TAKES IT.
IF HE WANTS AWAY HIS BUSINESS COMMITTEE, WE APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE BOOKS FOR SECOND 67 16.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER RALPH.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
DAVID, WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
THAT LAW LIBRARY SHAPE THE CHIP SHAPE.
UH, AND IT'S, IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC TOO.
I, ONE THING I GUESS I, I MEANT TO ASK, BUT I DON'T THINK IT HURTS STATUS.
NOW HOW DO WE KEEP FOLKS BOOKS FROM WALKING OUT THERE? I MEAN, I GUESS WE'VE GOT CAMERAS AROUND SO MAYBE BECAUSE YOU SAID SOME OF 'EM ARE MISSING.
WELL, UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A HONOR SYSTEM.
THERE'S NOBODY THERE ON DUTY ALL THE TIME.
MAYBE WE COULD PUT A BIG SIGN UP, SAID YOU'RE ON CANDID CAMERA OR SOMETHING.
IF THAT BECOMES, IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS GEORGE JAR WHO'S GOING TO GIVE US A REPORT ON AN IT MEETING MEETING AND THEN GEORGE WILL STAY UP.
HE'S GOT, UH, TWO ACTION ITEMS OUT, SEVEN AND EIGHT THAT HE WILL HAVE WITH US AS WELL.
WELL JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO FIRST THANK COMMISSIONER MANNING.
UH, HE, UH, GRACIOUSLY BUILT A NON-PENETRATING ROOF MAP FOR STEVE HUEY'S OFFICE OVER IN THE ARMORY.
AND LAST THURSDAY WE RECEIVED OUR MARCHING ORDERS FROM THE JUDGE TO GET STEVE HOOKED UP.
SO FRIDAY MORNING WE MADE THAT, UM, WIRELESS LINK AND WE CONNECTED STEVE TO THE INTERNET, TO THE COUNTY RESOURCES CONNECTING.
WE CONNECTED HIM TO THE PHONE SWITCH TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
HIS NEW NUMBER IS 9 3 2 9 6 9 6.
HE'LL ALSO BE USING NINE SEVEN AND NINE EIGHT.
BUT WITHOUT COMMISSIONER MANNING.
UH, I WILL SEND EVERYBODY THOSE NUMBERS JUST SO YOU'LL HAVE IT AS WELL WITHOUT COMMISSIONER MANNING BUILDING THAT, UH, ROOF MOUNT AND GETTING THAT UP THERE, WE WOULDN'T KNOW TO GET IT DONE.
UM, JUDGE, I'LL BE BRIEF 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT ON YOUR PLATE TODAY.
SO BASICALLY WE LOOK AT FOUR THINGS WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
IT COMMITTEE MEETING, THE, UH, IN CODE SOFTWARE.
UH, WE LOOKED AT VIDEO MAGISTRATION.
UM, WE'VE DISCUSSED FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS THE IDEA OF THE CONCEPT OF VIRTUALIZATION, WHICH WILL
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TAKE MORE TIME TO PROBABLY REQUIRE WORKSHOP.AND, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BUSINESS CONTINUITY AND DISASTER RECOVERY.
I'M WORKING WITH STEVE ON, YOU KNOW, SOME ISSUES THERE TO TRY TO, UH, MAKE THINGS WORK.
SHOULD THIS COUNTY, YOU KNOW, ANY COUNTY RESOURCES BE A VICTIM OF ANY KIND OF NATURAL DISASTER.
SO BEGIN WITH THE FIRST ONE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, UH, THE COURT CHARGED THE IT COMMITTEE AND THE FINANCE GUYS TO PURSUE LOOKING AT NEW FINANCIAL SOFTWARE THAT WOULD BE MORE ROBUST, MORE SECURE, HAVE MORE HR FEATURES, UM, BE ABLE TO DO THINGS, UH, THAT TODAY WE DON'T.
AND ALSO TO HAVE A PRODUCT WHERE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND COMMISSIONERS CAN HAVE READY ACCESS TO THEIR BUDGET, TO THEIR PAYROLL, AND TRYING TO KIND OF BRING US FORWARD.
WE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE WERE ON A HARDWARE PLATFORM AND SOFTWARE THAT'S BEEN OUTDATED FOR A WHILE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE USED IT, IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR US FOR 10 YEARS, BUT WE'VE AGREED OVER A YEAR AGO THAT IT'S TIME TO PURSUE, YOU KNOW, NEW, A NEW DIRECTION.
SO FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, WE'VE MET WITH VENDORS.
ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE LOOKED AT TYLER INCO.
THE TYLER INCO PRODUCT RELEASED NINE AND RELEASE 10.
AND AT THE TIME, THE DECISION OF THESE GUYS, FINANCIAL GUYS WAS THAT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNCTIONALITY THAT THEY REQUIRED.
AND AS TIME WENT ON AND WE LOOKED AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, WE ONCE AGAIN PURSUED IT.
I THINK THE JUDGE WAS INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD WITH AN HR PRODUCT.
IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE ROBUST.
SO WE ONCE AGAIN, UH, WE WENT TO TYLER, WE DEMOED NINE VERSUS 10, AND WE LOOKED AT THE NEW FUNCTIONALITY IN 10.
WE BROUGHT THE KEY PLAYERS, THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS, THE TREASURER, THE AUDITOR, AND THE PURCHASING AGENT WITH THEIR STAFF.
THEY TOGETHER REVIEWED THE PRODUCT.
AND BASED ON ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE TOOK, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO COME TO THE COURT.
WE WILL ADMIT TO ASK YOU TO ALLOW US TO GO FORWARD IN, UH, IN THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.
AND WE HAVE A QUOTE ON THE TABLE.
UH, THE AUDITOR HAS PURSUED FINANCING.
HE HAS A COUPLE FINANCING OPTIONS.
AND, UH, WHILE WE ARE NOT READY TO SIGN A CONTRACT YET, AND WE'D LIKE TO ASK YOU IN A COUPLE MOMENTS TO, UH, UH, PURSUE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.
UM, THE OTHER ISSUE, UM, THANKS TO, UH, OUR, UH, JUDGE ASHCROFT, UM, SHE, AS YOU SAW EARLIER, SHE'S VERY, SHE REALLY EMBRACES TECHNOLOGY.
IT'S VERY REFRESHING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT.
AND, UH, SHE REALLY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH VIDEO ADMINISTRATION.
NOW, AT THE TIME, WE WERE LOOKING AT ONE OF THE PILOT PRODUCTS, THE SIGNATURE, WHICH WAS QUITE COSTLY.
AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE JUST ONE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
NOW, THE GOAL HERE WOULD BE TO HAVE A PRODUCT THAT WAS, UH, ROBUST, PROVEN, AND SECURE.
WHILE WE CERTAINLY COULD DO AN AD HOC, AN AD HOC VIDEO, MAGISTRATION, UH, TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE THE TECH, THE UNDERLYING TECHNOLOGY'S FAIRLY BASIC.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WANTED TO PURSUE A SOLUTION THAT WAS PROVEN AND TESTED.
SO IF DOWN THE ROAD IT WAS CHALLENGED IN COURT WITH ANY KIND OF CIVIL LITIGATION WE COULD POINT TO, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE A PRODUCT THAT'S TRIED AND PROVEN AND IS, YOU KNOW, BEEN USED AROUND THE STATE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR THAT MATTER.
WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL, WE LOOKED AT A PRODUCT, WE DIDN'T DEMO IT, BUT WE LOOKED AT A PRODUCT FROM CISCO SYSTEMS. WE LOOKED AT A PRODUCT FROM POLYCOM AND ANOTHER ONE FROM A COMPANY CALLED LIFESIZE.
AND THE, UH, FAVORITE PRODUCT TO BRING THE TECHNOLOGY TO THE COUNTY WAS THE ONE THAT JUDGE CROT, UM, FAVORITE.
AND THAT WAS THE ONE FROM LIFESIZE.
WE DEMOED THAT IN AT HER COURT, IN HER COURTROOM.
IT ALSO TURNED OUT TO BE THE MOST, UH, ECONOMICAL.
IT WAS, IT WAS THE BEST PRICE.
NOW, THAT PIECE OF THE TECHNOLOGY BRINGS THE VIDEO CONFERENCE TO THE JUDGE'S BENCH OR HER HOME OR WHEREVER SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE.
AND IT ALSO BRINGS IT TO THE MAGISTRATE ROOM.
NOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHAT WE DO THERE IS WE HAVE TODAY, JUST TO BACK UP, WE BRING THE INMATES IN AND THEY COME BEFORE THE JUDGE AND THE JUDGE READS RIGHTS AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF PAPERWORK INVOLVED.
AND THE KEY THERE IS WE NEED TO SIGN OFF.
UM, THE JUDGE HAS TO SIGN OFF AND THE ACCUSED HAS TO SIGN OFF AFTER THEY'RE READY.
SO OUR, OUR, OUR SOLUTION WOULD HAVE TO SHOW AND PRESENT THAT TO BOTH SIDES IN A HIGH RESOLUTION WAY.
WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO RECORD AND KEEP THAT AND RETAIN THAT FOR THE FUTURE.
WE COULD ALWAYS PULL THAT VIDEO AND BRING IT TO COURT OR TO WHOEVER.
AND, AND THEN THE, UM, THE FINAL THING WAS TO BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF.
THE FIRST PART, THE SIGNATURE PART.
WE INITIALLY LOOKED AT PRODUCT AND TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.
IT WOULD'VE COST US ABOUT 44, 40 5,000.
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WITH, UH, SOUTHERN SOFTWARE.THE VENDOR WHO, UH, UH, WE USE IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
IN FACT, THEY'RE USED BY THE SMALLER POLICE AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY.
THEY'RE ALSO USED BY, UM, SOUTHERN SOFTWARE.
UM, HAS THE TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE AND AGREED TO IMPLEMENT E-SIGNATURE IN THEIR PRODUCT AT NO COST AS THE COUNTY.
SO THAT PART, THAT 45,000 WAS TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.
SO THE LAST, OUR LAST IT COMMITTEE MEETING, WE MET AND WE AGREED TO PRESENT TO THE COURT FOR THEIR APPROVAL, US MOVING FORWARD WITH, UM, THE LIFE SIZE PRODUCT, WHICH IS 43,851.
AND WE'LL BE ASKING YOU FOR THAT IN A MOMENT.
UM, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, UH, VIRTUALIZATION WE'VE DISCUSSED, WHILE THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE SOME TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SHORT, THE SHORT POINT ABOUT VIRTUALIZATION SERVER AND DESKTOP VIRTUALIZATION, THE, THE WORLD, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CORPORATE WORLD AND GOVERNMENT AND MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, THE REASON IS TO REDUCE AND MAINTAIN PAYROLL, TO REDUCE ELECTRICITY COST, AND TO REDUCE OVERALL EXPENDITURES TO VIRTUALIZE SERVERS AND VIRTUALIZE A DESKTOP.
UM, IT'S WHITE PAPERS THAT HAVE PROVEN AND A WRITTEN ABOUT HOW IT WILL SAVE THAT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY OR A CORPORATION.
UH, FROM THE, WHAT WE USE TODAY IS THE CLIENT SERVER MODEL WITH A PC ON EVERY DESK AND SERVERS AND THE SERVER.
WITH VIRTUALIZATION, THE COST IS ABOUT 67% OF WHAT WE PAY TODAY.
THE CONCEPT WOULD BE WHERE INSTEAD OF HAVING A ROOM FULL OF A BUNCH OF SERVERS, IS A LARGE SERVER RUNNING EITHER VMWARE, UH, A PRODUCT FROM, UH, CITRIX CALLED ZEN, OR A PRODUCT FROM MICROSOFT CALLED HYPERVIEW.
THE UNDERLYING TECHNOLOGY IS FAIRLY OLD.
WE'VE USED IT FOR YEARS TODAY IN THE TAX OFFICE.
ALL THE REMOTE USERS ARE IN A REMOTE DESKTOP TO THE SERVER HERE IN KAUFMAN.
TODAY, IF ANY ONE OF THE SERVERS IN CAMP TER OR OR FORNEY WERE TO FAIL, WE COULD PUT IN WHAT'S KNOWN AS A THIN CLIENT.
IT'S A, A PIECE OF HARDWARE THAT COSTS FOUR TO $500.
THEY WOULD ESTABLISH A REMOTE DESKTOP CONNECTION TO THE CAC SERVER IN KAUFMAN.
AND THEY WOULD FUNCTION, THEY WOULD, THERE WOULD BE NO DIFFERENCE.
THEY WOULD NOT KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR ENVIRONMENT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT.
SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BRING THE COURT AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO THE, TO THE, TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND SEE IT.
WE'RE GONNA DEFINITELY DEMO IT.
AND UM, AND THE REASON WE WANT TO GO TO THE COURT IS IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT.
THERE ARE SOME FOLKS IN THE COUNTY WHOSE ROLE IS TO DO A SPECIFIC JOB, WHETHER IT BE WORKING IN POD, AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, CHECKING ON INMATES, WHETHER IT'S BOOKEND, WHETHER IT'S INTAKE IN THE DA'S OFFICE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE ONE SPECIFIC JOB THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE INTERNET ACCESS.
DOESN'T REQUIRE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE USE TODAY WITH A STANDALONE PC AND A FIN CLIENT WILL DO.
THE OTHER BIG ISSUE IS SECURITY.
WE KNOW THAT, UM, IN THE PAST WE'VE, UH, WELL, THERE WAS A DA AT ONE TIME THAT LOST A LAPTOP IN AUSTIN AT A CONFERENCE.
WHAT WAS ON THAT LAPTOP? WHO KNOWS, YOU KNOW, IF WE VIRTUALIZE THAT DESKTOP WHERE THAT INSTANCE OF MICROSOFT, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WINDOWS SEVEN RATHER THAN EXISTING ON THAT PHYSICAL PC'S ACTUALLY GONNA RACK IN THE SERVER, YOU AUTHENTICATED IT TO IT WITH YOUR LAPTOP, BUT ALL THE THINGS YOU DO, ALL THE DOCUMENTS YOU CREATE, EVERYTHING YOU DO IS OVER HERE IN A RACK WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF WINDOWS SEVEN VIRTUAL MACHINES.
JUST THINK, UM, IN A, FROM AN HR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IF WE HAD A PERSON WHO IS INVOLVED WITH VERY SENSITIVE HIPAA RELATED DOCUMENTS? AND WHAT IF THAT PERSON WORKED IN AN AREA THAT HAD PUBLIC ACCESS? WHAT IF THAT PERSON WENT TO LUNCH AND SOMEONE KNEW THAT FPC WAS WHERE CRITICAL INFORMATION IS KEPT NOTHING TO STOP THAT, THAT PERSON, IF SOMEONE WALKED IN, THEY COULD WALK OUT THE DOOR WITH THAT PC AND YOU KNOW, OUR, WE IN TROUBLE IN A, WITH VIRTUALIZATION, THAT DESKTOP WOULD EXIST IN A DATA CENTER.
THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE A THIN CLIENT AND ALL THOSE CRITICAL DOCUMENTS WOULD BE STORED IN A SAFE PLACE.
THEY WILL NOT RESIDE ON THE LOCAL PC POWER CONSUMPTION.
WHEN YOU ADD UP ALL THE PCS AND MONITORS AROUND THE COUNTY AND ALL THE SERVERS AND ALL THE SERVER ROOMS, IT ADDS UP TO A LOT OF MONEY FROM A, FROM A POWER PERSPECTIVE, IT CUTS DOWN TO ABOUT 67% THEREABOUTS
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AND WHAT WE'RE DOWN.SO IT'S AN AREA WE WANT TO PURSUE.
WE WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE BUDGETED FOR SOME TEST ENVIRONMENT AND WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE SOLUTION TO THE COURTS WITH ODYSSEY, PRESENT IT TO THE TAX OFFICE.
BUT THEY ALREADY USED TODAY IF, UH, THERE ARE REMOTE DESKTOP CONNECTED AND, UH, WE'RE OF COURSE WE'RE WORKING ON AT SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT THIS WILL TAKE MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE TO DO.
BUT JUST LET YOU GUYS KNOW, THIS IS A DIRECTION WE'RE TRYING TO GO, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE WORLD IS GOING THAT WAY.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO AS WELL, THE LAST THING WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH WAS DISASTER RECOVERY AND BUSINESS CONTINUITY.
UM, WE'VE KIND OF HARPED ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, WE'VE, BACK WHEN KATHY WAS OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, YOU KNOW, WE DELIBERATED AND WORKED ON THIS FOR A WHILE.
UM, BUT WE, WE NEED TO COME TO A PLACE WHERE WE MAKE A DECISION WHERE, UM, NOT ONLY IS OUR DATA WHERE IT'S REPLICATED AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO FUNCTION DAY TO DAY, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY STEVE HUEY AND A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS THAT IN, IN, UH, LAURA HUGHES, THAT SHOULD THE TAX OFFICE OR HER OFFICE BE IMPACTED BY A NATURAL DISASTER, WHETHER IT'S A TORNADO OR WHATEVER.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT SHE NEEDS IN HER DAY TO DAY OPERATION THAT ARE CRITICAL, NOT JUST FOR BANK, HER FILE MARKS AND ALL KINDS OF GADGETRY THAT SHE NEEDS.
SO OUR GOAL, AND I THINK STEVE AND I ARE GONNA WORK TOGETHER ON THIS, IS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN SO THAT WE HAVE BUSINESS CONTINUITY ON HIS ROLE IS TO MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU FOLKS CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE, WHETHER IT BE BY A LAPTOP, AT A REMOTE LOCATION, POSSIBLY THE ARMORY OR IN ANOTHER DESIGNATED AREA.
BUT I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO FINALLY PUT IT INTO WRITING, DISTILL IT TO WRITING, HAVE A PLAN, PASS IT BY THE COURT TO SAY WHEN, IF OR WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GONNA FUNCTION.
HERE'S WHERE THE DATA'S STILL, AND THIS IS OUR PLAN.
SO THAT'S AN ONGOING EFFORT AND WE'VE JUST REALLY, AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE'RE IN A PLACE WHERE WE NEED TO FINALIZE IT AND GET IT TO WHERE WE HAVE, UH, SOMETHING WITH THE COURT'S BLESSING THAT WE'VE TRIED TESTING AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, EVERY, FROM TIME TO TIME, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN TEST IT.
WE CAN GO THROUGH A EXERCISE WHERE WE, UM, DEPLOY LAPTOPS AT THE ARMORY AND WORK ODYSSEY.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DENY DUE PROCESS BECAUSE THERE WAS A TORNADO.
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK NOW'S THE TIME THIS YEAR FOR US TO FINALLY HAVE A GOOD PLAN, TEST IT FOR THE THREAT.
BUT JUDGE, THOSE ARE THE FOUR ITEMS WE DISCUSSED.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS OF, UH, YOUR HONOR, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE, THE INITIAL COST IS GONNA BE FOR THE FIRST PORTION OF THIS DAY? VIRTUALIZATION, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS BEGIN WITH NOT SERVER VIRTUALIZATION, BUT HOSTS.
THE INITIAL COST WOULD BE PROBABLY, LET ME JUST SAY WE'VE, WE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY DEPLOYED.
WE HAVE A SYSTEM AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WE ARE, WE ALREADY HAVE VIRTUALIZATION MONEY.
OUR COST IS GONNA BE JUST A COST OF TO TEST IT.
SO YOU CAN SEE AND YOU KNOW, VALIDATE FOR YOURSELF THAT IN FACT WORKS WELL.
THE COST WILL BE, EACH FIN CLIENT WILL COST US ABOUT FIVE FOUR TO 500 TODAY.
BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH A TEST.
UM, UH, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO TEST AND DEPLOY VMWARE HYPER B AND, UH, CITRIX THEN CLIENT OR ZEN SERVER AND ZEN CLIENT
SO INITIALLY THE COUNTY'S NOT GONNA PAY MORE MONEY.
WE, IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET, WE'VE ALREADY PLANNED BUDGETED.
SO THERE WILL BE NO, WE WON'T TALK ABOUT DEPLOYMENT COSTS, CERTAINLY UNTIL NEXT COUPLE, FEW YEARS.
BUT THE REASONS FOR DOING IT IS TODAY WE HAVE A LOT OF DELL PCS THAT ARE WAY PAST END OF LIFE.
AND I KNOW RAY LOVES END OF LIFE, BUT TO ME, END OF LIFE MEANS
CRAZY ABOUT, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH,
NOW I THINK JACK CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST CITIES WILL REDEPLOY EVERY, WHAT, THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS.
THEY REDEPLOY COMPUTER WHILE OUR DEPARTMENT HAS REPAIRED THEM ALL THIS TIME.
SO 2004 TO 2011, IT'S A LONG TIME.
TO ME IT'S END OF LIFE WHEN I CAN'T GET PARTS FOR IT.
SO NOW WE NO LONGER PURCHASE THE MOTHERBOARD FOR GX TWO 70.
SO, SO OUR GOAL IS TO, RATHER THAN TRY TO RAMP UP AND BUY A WHOLE BUNCH OF PCS AND PUT 'EM IN THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO AND SUPPORT AND DEPLOY ON, DO VIRTUALIZATIONS WITH DESKTOP.
IT'LL BE SECURED BY THE PASS PASS PASSWORD.
WELL WHAT, THAT'S MUCH MORE SECURE THAN WHAT WE WOULD EVER HAVE TODAY BECAUSE THAT STUFF IS ALL
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IT'S NOT ON EVERYBODY'S DESKTOP.
YOU KNOW, TODAY, THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, WOULD BRING A THUMB DRIVE IN FROM HOME, PLUG THAT INTO THEIR COMPUTER AND DO WHATEVER WITH A VIRTUAL MACHINE.
THAT THIN CLIENT, YOU CONTROL THE DEVICES, THE DED PLAYER THUMB DRIVES AS YOU PROGRAM AND CREATE THAT VIRTUAL MACHINE SO YOU HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OF WHAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO.
THE THING IS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A HARD SELL SUBJECT THINK, OH MY GOD, YOU'RE TRYING TO RESTRICT MY ABILITY TO WEAR.
I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO DEPLOY IT IN A TEST ENVIRONMENT.
SO THE DEPARTMENT HAD, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY CLERK CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, I HAVE FOLKS THAT DO CRIMINAL, I HAVE FOLKS THAT DO CIVIL AND FOR MY OFFICE, THIS IS THE WAY I WOULD LIKE THEM DEPLOYED.
NOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR YOUR FOLKS MAY WANT IT DONE DIFFERENTLY.
THE GREAT THING ABOUT VIRTUALIZATION IS THE WAY, ANY WAY YOU WANT IT DONE, WE DO.
AND 67% OF THE DOLLARS WE'RE SPENDING THAT.
WELL, IS MOST OF THIS IN YOUR BUDGET OR IS MOST OF IT OR NO, THERE NONE OF IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET.
THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, TODAY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WHEN A PC OR A PIECE OF HARDWARE FAILS, WE HAVE A REPAIR LINE ITEM WE PULL FROM AND WE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE, UH, WE'RE GONNA PURSUE GRANTS.
WE MAY EVEN DO IT THAT WAY THERE.
UM, WE, I, THERE'S THREE FOLKS THAT I'VE CONTACTED RECENTLY.
UM, THERE ARE SOME GREEN TECHNOLOGY INITIATIVE OUT THERE.
THERE'S SOME GRANT GRANT FUNDS AVAILABLE.
IT MAY COST US ZERO, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
BUT I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO LET THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND TO LET THE COURT KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THERE, THIS IS KIND OF THE DIRECTION OF THE FUTURE.
UM, AND, UH, I THINK WE, UH, WE NEED TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT IT AND PERFORM WITH IT.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA COST US ANYTHING.
IS THAT WHAT YOU GOT OUTTA THAT? SO GEORGE, THE THIN CLIENTS, WILL THAT COVER THE ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE FOR THE, FOR THE AUDITOR? THAT'S UNDER TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THAT.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE SYSTEM FOR THE AUDITOR THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? OH, THE ONE, UH, TOPIC ONE, ONE WE HAVE ON OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, OH, THAT'S THE NEXT ONE.
OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS, GEORGE, BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ITEM? AND THIS WOULD BE LIKE, LIKE A TEST PHASE, YOU SEE? YES, ACTUALLY WE'VE BEEN TESTING, WE'VE WORKED FROM, FROM A COMPUTER FORENSIC AREA.
I'VE WORKED WITH VMWARE SINCE, SINCE 2007, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE DO, WE'VE USED THE VMWARE FOR A COMPUTER FORENSIC AREA, IS IF WE HAVE A SUSPECT AND WE WANTED TO PRESENT HIS DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT TO THE COURT, THE TRIAL, WE WOULD DO A FORENSIC IMAGE OF THE DRIVE, CREATE A VIRTUAL MACHINE OF THE SUSPECT'S MACHINE SO WE CAN PRESENT IT TO THE COURT THE WAY IT APPEARED TO THE PER, THAT'S ON THE, ON THE HOST SIDE.
SO YEAH, YOU, WE'VE WORKED WITH VIRTUALIZATION FOR QUITE A FEW.
THE CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS IS, TO ME, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
AT LEAST IT'S OPEN FOR A LOT OF LIVE BUILDERS.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, THEN WHEN HURRICANES CAME IN, KNOCKED OUT GALSTON HOUSTON, THOSE GUYS IN THAT JAIL STILL HAD THAT 72 HOUR TIMEFRAME OR WHATEVER TIMEFRAME THAT THEY HAVE BY LAW TO GET, BE BOOKED IN OR WHATEVER.
AND IT DIDN'T MAKE THAT HURRICANE OR NOT.
YOU CAN'T VIOLATE THOSE CIVIL RIGHTS.
AND SO IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE HERE, WE CAN BE SUED AT THE WAZOO.
AND SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE A BACKUP PLAN AND WE CONSIDER THE ARMORY.
THERE'S A HARDENED CORNER OF THAT ARMORY THAT WOULD BE AN IDEAL EFFICIEN TO PUT VIRTUALIZATION, SERVER VIRTUALIZATION TO WHERE COURTHOUSE WAS HIT.
ANOTHER OPTION IS, UH, CLOUD SECURE CLOUD CLOUD COMPUTING IS ANOTHER THING WHICH WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AT SOME POINT.
I WORKED ON MY LAPTOP IT'S WEEKEND AND THROUGH A CLOUD FOLDER I HAVE, AND IMMEDIATELY IT'S ON MY PHONE.
I DON'T HAVE TO, I DON'T HAVE TO SEND IT TO IT OR, YOU KNOW, FTP OR BLUETOOTH OR WHATEVER.
IT'S JUST THERE AUTOMATICALLY IN THE CLOUD ENVIRONMENT.
AND THERE ARE GOVERNMENT, UH, SECURE CLOUD SOLUTIONS WE CAN GO TO.
AND MAYBE MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP ALL THE RPGS IN THAT BUNKER AND PUT OUR SERVERS IN THE CLOUD.
SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE RPGS, WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY,
OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN? ALRIGHTY, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ACCEPTING TYLER IN CODE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE FOR KA COUNTY AND TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT
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NEGOTIATIONS FOR WELL MEAN, LET'S, BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, LET ME JUST MENTION THAT, UH, I THINK, UH, MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE USING NOW FOR FINANCIAL SOFTWARE IS JUST ANTIQUATED.IT'S BEEN RAN SINCE BEFORE YEARS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO TRY TO UPDATE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE LUCKY IT'S STILL WORKING, I THINK BASICALLY IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD.
KINDA LIKE, KINDA LIKE, YEAH, GEORGE, YOU WANT TO, UH, AND I THINK YOU'VE HAD OTHER, OTHER COMMITTEES BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS AND ALL THE, AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.
ONCE AGAIN, THE COURT PRIOR COURT CHARGED US WITH A FORM DUE DILIGENCE TO PURSUE EVERY OPPORTUNITY.
AND THIS IS OUR FINDING AFTER OVER A YEAR OF MEETING AND LOOKING AT PRODUCTS.
AND SO WE RELIED ON THE EXPERTISE OF THE, UH, END USER.
WE WANTED, WE WANTED, UH, JACK FOLKS TO BE THERE.
I CAN'T MAKE AN ASSESSMENT ON THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE.
AND UH, SO WE BROUGHT THEM COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER AND SEVERAL TIMES.
AND BOTTOM LINE IS WE LOOKING AT, WE BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER BELIEVES THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR US TO PURSUE.
ANY QUESTIONS APPROXIMATE DOLLAR, DOLLAR ON 180 7, 2 45.
IT'S ABOUT THE COST OF A MOTIVATOR.
A HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN, TWO FORTY FIVE, A LITTLE CHEAPER, NOT MUCH.
AND THE MONEY'S BUDGETED WHERE, UH, HOW HE, HE CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO NOT IMPACT OUR CURRENT BUDGET.
WE WOULD, UH, WHAT WE WOULD DO, WE WOULD, UH, USE THE SAME METHOD OF TO FINANCE IT THE WAY WE DID, UH, WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR LAST FINANCIAL SOFTWARE, WHEN WE WENT TO THE TYLER COURT'S PRODUCT.
AND THAT WAS TO, UH, USE A COMPANY LIKE DIVERSIFIED LENDING.
AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS DURING DEPLOYMENT, WE WOULD HAVE A SET OF DELIVERABLES THAT ARE PAID FOR, YOU KNOW, BY THE LENDING COMPANY AND THAT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WE DON'T PAY ANY OF THOSE ALL OVER WITH.
AND IT WOULD WOULDN'T, PAYMENTS WOULD NOT BEGIN UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR.
SO WE WOULD TAKE OUT, YOU KNOW, OUR RECURRING COSTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY WITH A LEGACY PRODUCT AND WE WOULD PUT IN OUR COSTS TO THIS PRODUCT.
BUT NOW THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S EXACTLY THE EXPLANATION I WAS GOING GIVE THAT, UH, DIVERSIFIED LENDING DOES THIS FOR A LIVING.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, VERY REPUTABLE.
LIKE GEORGE SAID, WE USED THEM IN THE PAST.
THEY DON'T OPERATE LIKE A COMMERCIAL BANK OPERATE.
UH, THEY'RE NOT REALLY IN THAT BUSINESS TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT I'VE HAD DEALINGS WITH DIVERSIFIED LENDER HERE FOR A COUPLE OF PROJECTS.
AND, UH, SO TO ANSWER ONE OF YOUR ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTION IS IT COMES OUTTA GENERAL FUND AND IT COMES OUT OF COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IT SHOULDN'T COME OUT THIS YEAR.
IT OUGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SET UP NO MORE THAN FIVE YEARS PAYOUT AND MAYBE MORE, YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO CARRY, UH, COMPUTER RELATED COSTS AND PAY FOR IT OVER A LONGER PERIOD THAN, THAN, UH, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF FINANCING WE WOULD LOOK AT AND, UH, PROBABLY START ABOUT MAYBE SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, INTEREST RATES.
THEY'RE TALKING AND SEE WHAT THE PAYOUTS OF TALKING AND IF WE WANTED TO PAY IT OFF EARLIER, THAT WOULD BE A, UH, WE CERTAINLY, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD LINE THAT, BUT WE CERTAINLY GET THAT.
IN CASE, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT WE WOULD, BUT WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU TOOK THE 180 7, DIVIDE IT BY FOUR OR 5, 4, 4 OR FIVE OR WHATEVER, BUT PART OF THAT COST, YOU SAID, WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDING SOME COST.
WELL, TODAY WE HAVE A RECURRING COST TO SUPPORT OUR LEGACY FINANCIALS.
HOW, HOW MUCH AND WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO PULL THE BUDGET SEATS PRETTY CLOSE PROBLEM.
IT'S QUITE WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S THE LIFE EXPECTANCY ON THIS NEW SYSTEM? THE HARDWARE PLATFORM OR THE, UH, UNDERLYING SOFTWARE? BOTH.
WELL, THE HARDWARE PLATFORM OF COURSE, UM, IT'S NEVER A GOOD IDEA TO KEEP HARDWARE ANY LONGER THAN THREE YEAR PERIOD.
AND OUR GOAL WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TODAY, OF COURSE WE PROBABLY, WE WILL NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE TIME WE MAKE, HAVE THE TIME TO DEPLOY VIRTUALIZATION.
BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE TO REDUCE COSTS WHEN THE TIME COMES BY VIRTUALIZING WHATEVER HARDWARE PLATFORM THEY USE IN A, IN A VIRTUAL SETTING.
BUT, UM, THE QUESTION, I GUESS YOUR QUESTION IS ON SOFTWARE IS HOW LONG WILL THE TECHNOLOGY BE VALID? WELL, THINK ABOUT THIS PHONE.
TWO YEARS AGO THE TECHNOLOGY WAS VERY DIFFERENT.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GONNA BE IN TWO MORE YEARS.
OUR GOAL, THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS
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MY OLD SAMSUNG THING, YOU JUST OPEN UP AND USE, ALL YOU DO IS MAKE PHONE CALLS.IT, IT IS OBSOLETE TODAY YOU BUY, SO, SO YOU TAKE THE BEST SHOT.
LIVE AS LONG AS YOU CAN, RIGHT? YEAH.
MY GOODNESS, WAY OF FUNDING THIS.
BESIDES GENERAL FUND BUDGET, NO GRANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WORK ON THIS? WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU TAKE A 30,000 FOOT VIEW, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THE WATER GREEN, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER TAKEN THIS AS PUT THIS MUCH DUE DILIGENCE AND TIME INTO DELIBERATE OVER, UM, A MOTIVATOR PURCHASE AS WE HAVE THE SOFTWARE.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE BEST FOLKS, THE FINANCIAL GUYS, YOU KNOW, PUT THEIR MIND ON THIS.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT, UH, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED FUNDING.
I THINK IT'S WELL WORTH, WORTH THE DECISION GO FORWARD.
HOW LONG HAS THE ONE LASTED THAT THIS IS GONNA BE REPLACING? 10 YEARS.
AND IT'S TO POINT, IT'S IT IS VERY, WELL, IT'S BUILT ON A PLATFORM.
IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S A RISK RC 6,000.
YOU KNOW, THE OPERATING SYSTEM IS UNIX IS IBM'S VERSION OF UNIX CALLED A X.
IT'S VERSION A IX VERSION 4.3 X FOUR THREE IS NO LONGER SUPPORTIVE BY IT.
THE UNDERLYING DATABASE IS IB UNIVERSE, YOU KNOW, I IBM UNIVERSE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD AT THE TIME, BUT JUST, THEY'RE JUST SO NOT SUPPORTIVE THAT RIGHT.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, LEMME GET THIS.
THIS THE FINANCIAL PART ON THERE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING MAYBE 40, SAY $50,000 A YEAR FOR THE NEW, FOR THE NEW SOFTWARE, FOR NEW PRODUCT, WHATEVER.
WHAT DO WE SPEND? ARE WE SPENDING 10,000, 20,000, $40,000 A YEAR RIGHT NOW ON THE WHOLE PRODUCT OR BECAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REDUCE OUR EXPENDITURE.
AND I'M THINKING AHEAD, HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE TO HAVE TO DO NEXT YEAR? IS IT $46,000 OR, WELL, WE'RE ENTERING INTO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.
AND WHEN WE PRESENT THAT TO COURT, WHAT WE'LL HAVE FOR YOU IS WHAT WE ARE SPENDING TODAY, WHAT WE SPENT IN THE PAST, WHAT WE INTEND TO SPEND IN THE FUTURE.
SO OUR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WILL INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF SCENARIOS.
IF YOU, IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN LOOK AT, LET'S ASSUME WE'RE SPENDING 50,000, THAT WE'LL PRESENT IT TO YOU IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN SAY, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN DO IT FOR 40, 56 OR 70 AND LET YOU MAKE THE DECISION.
BECAUSE AS HAL SAID, IF WE DO IT 3, 4, 5 OR SIX YEARS, WE CERTAINLY CAN CHANGE THE, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPENT.
SO WHEN DO WE PRESENT THE FINAL CONTRACT FEE OF APPROVAL? WE'LL PRESENT IT IN A WAY WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTRAST WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY WITH WHAT WE'RE GONNA, HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE COSTS WILL DO.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE STILL DOING THE CONTRACT.
BUT WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING CURRENTLY? WE HAVEN'T STARTED DOING, SO I, I DON'T KNOW.
IS IT, IS IT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER? WILL IT REDUCE THE 50 TO HALF OR BY A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR? WELL, I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO NOW IS, AND AFTER WE NEGOTIATE THIS CONTRACT, WE'LL BRING IT TO YOU AND WE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE SPENDING TODAY AND WHAT WE SPEND IN THE PAST.
AND WE'LL ALSO KNOW, SPEND A LITTLE, QUITE A BIT OF TIME DISCUSSING SECURITY ISSUES, UM, WHAT THE ENHANCEMENTS INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PRESENT IT IN A WAY THAT YOU'LL HAVE PLENTY OF INFORMATION WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND YOU CAN SHOW YOU IF WE MOVE FORWARD AND DO NOTHING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER IT'LL BE, BUT WE'LL HAVE HARD FIGURES FOR YOU TO MAKE A DECISION.
UM, SINCE WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF IMPACTING YOUR BUDGET IN THIS BUDGET HERE, IT REALLY WON'T BE AN ISSUE UNTIL WE GO THROUGH OUR BUDGET HEARINGS IN JULY.
BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WITHIN ABOUT A MONTH OR SO, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ALL OUR FIGURES TOGETHER TO PRESENT THE CONTRACT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT.
AND, AND I THINK ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, IS THE, TO GO NEGOTIATE, RIGHT? UH, BUT IF WE TAKE A BREAK OR AFTER THE MEETING, WE GO TODAY, I'M, I'M TO NEGOTIATE IT'S THERE.
I I, I'M THINKING YEAH, I, I WAS GONNA GIVE YOU A RAISE TURE, BUT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO.
SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A RAISE, BUT YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING A LOT FASTER.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE $187,245 FIGURE? THAT WAS THE QUOTE FOR, UM, TYLER'S ENCODE FINANCIAL SUITE OF SOFTWARE.
IT'S THE STARTING QUOTE BEFORE YOU NEGOTIATE.
I, I'M MAKE A MOTION ENTERED CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH 2 45 END CODE.
MOTION TO MAKE TO ENTER THE CONTRACT.
NEGOTIATE WITH TYLER CODE AND THE FINANCING.
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NEGOTIATIONS.WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ITEM EIGHT BEFORE GEORGE PUTS DOWN, UH, IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON, UH, DEPLOYING VIDEO MAG PAID FOR BY THE JP TECHNOLOGY FUND FROM FORCE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM.
SO AGAIN, HERE, WE'VE, UM, SOUTHERN SOFTWARE HAS AGREED TO DEPLOY THEIR, UM, SIGNATURE PART AT NO COST.
THEY'VE AGREED TO DO THAT BY DECEMBER.
AND THESE COSTS HERE RELATE TO THE, UH, THE COST OF THE VIDEO, PUSHING THE VIDEO AND AUDIO BACK AND FORTH TO THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND BACK TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE ARRANGE ROOM, AND, UM, TO, UH, RETAIN THOSE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME MORE INDEFINITELY.
TO KEEP THEM SO THE JUDGE CAN REFER TO 'EM, YOU KNOW, FUTURE.
UM, THERE IS 110,000 IN PRECINCT THREES, UH, BUDGET.
THERE'S 63,000 IN JUDGE ASH'S BUDGET.
THERE'S 32,000 IN, UM, PRECINCT FOUR.
THEY USED PART MORE THE TECHNOLOGY.
AND SO I THINK OUR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS AND AT THE IT COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, WERE TO LET THEM WE TABLE AT THE MEETING AND LET THEM, UH, DELIBERATE HOW THEY WOULD PAY FOR IT.
AND I THINK THE AGREEMENT WAS AS I SPOKE TO, UH, JUDGE MIKE SMITH, THAT HE WAS, HE'S NOT HERE, BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY WHAT HE SAID.
THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE THING HIMSELF, THAT HE HAD TO, UM, HE CERTAINLY HAS A FUNDS, THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME THAT AS WELL.
I SAW HIM OUT EVENT THE OTHER DAY.
HE TOLD, SO TODAY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, UP TO JUDGE ESTRO, WELL JUDGE, WE JUDGE SMITH AND I HAVE DECIDED IF THE OTHERS DON'T WANT TO, THEN HE, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SPLIT THE COSTS AND, UH, WITH THE STIPULATION, MAYBE LATER ON, IF THE OTHER JPS WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, THEN, THEN MAYBE THEY CAN TEACH IN LATER ON.
UH, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO THIS.
AND, AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION, GEORGE, YOU SAID WITH THIS ONE OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE CALLING BY A DIFFERENT NAME, I I WAS CALLING IT ANA, ANA IS THE COMPANY, THAT COMPANY THAT DOES, DID THEY NOT QUOTE US AS FIVE AS SIX? UH, THEY WOULD'VE, UH, SIX UH, PARTICIPANTS.
LIKE WE COULD PUT ONE AT THE COURTHOUSE YES.
AND THEN THERE WOULD BE FOUR AVAILABLE FOR THE FOUR JPS.
AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TWO EXTRA THAT WE COULD INSTITUTE LATER THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED, I BELIEVE, IN THEIR RIGHT.
AND MOVING FORWARD, LET, LET'S ASSUME JUDGE, UH, LEWIS OR YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE KIND OF CORRESPONDENT TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, UH, LET'S SAY MAYBE OUR NEW, UM, UH, INDIGENT DEFENSE CLERK WANTED TO YOU, IT CAN BE USED FOR ANY.
UM, AND I'M GOING, I'VE DECIDED I'M GONNA MAKE Y'ALL A PACKET OF THESE DIFFERENT ARTICLES.
I THINK BECAUSE IT, IT COVERS THE CLOUD COMPUTING IN HERE, WHICH IF YOU'RE LIKE ME, I, I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT 'CAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
BUT ALSO IT, IT LISTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO USE THIS VIDEO MAGISTRATION.
NOT JUST FOR INDIGENT, BUT SUPPOSEDLY THEY HAVE A VIOLENT INMATE, UH, RATHER THAN TRANSPORT THEM TO A, NOT A SECURED ENVIRONMENT, THE JAIL TO A NON-SECURED ENVIRONMENT.
ENVIRONMENT LIKE THE COURTHOUSE, THEY COULD DO IT BY VIDEO.
THEY COULD DO A LOT OF THAT RATHER THAN INJECT THE PUBLIC.
AND IT WOULD CUT DOWN ON TRANSPORTATION COSTS.
AND I MEAN, THE USES FOR THIS VIDEO ADMINISTRATION SYSTEM IS JUST ABOUT ENDLESS.
SAY WE HAVE AN ICE STORM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE LAST YEAR, THE COURTHOUSES ARE CLOSED AND IT'S NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO DRIVE OVER TO THE JAIL TO MAGISTRATE PRISONERS.
BUT I CAN BE AT HOME, YOU KNOW, HAVING HOT CHOCOLATE
BUT I CAN SET UP MY COMPUTER WITH MY CAMERA AND I CAN MAGISTRATE PRISONERS FAIR FOR MY COMFORT OF MY LIVING ROOM.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND IF THERE'S A DISASTER, LIKE YOU SAID, DISASTER RECOVERY, WE CAN STILL DO THAT IF WE HAVE LAPTOPS AND STUFF.
I CAN EVEN DO THIS ACCORDING TO
I CAN DO IT ON MY CELL PHONE OR AN IPAD.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT IT, THE, THE APPLICATIONS AND THE EFFICIENCY ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, MIND BLOGGING.
SO THEY'RE JUST CONSTANTLY DEVELOPING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN, MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE SIX, UM, PARTICIPANTS, UH, CAMERAS OR WHATEVER TECHNOLOGY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT GIVES A LOT OF OTHER APPLICATIONS THAN JUST THE MAGISTRATION.
OH, WANT ONE MORE? NOW I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE REPS FROM
THERE WAS A BARRICADED SUSPECT IN HUNT COUNTY UP NEAR THE HUNT COUNTY LINE.
ACTUALLY IT WAS IN COFFMAN COUNTY.
AND THEY NEEDED A WARRANT, SEARCH AND ARREST WARRANT TO GO IN AND GET THE BARRICADED SUSPECT.
AND SO SHE CALLS ME THE, THE, UH, INVESTIGATOR COMES TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
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SHE DRIVES TO THE COURTHOUSE, SUB COURTHOUSE IN 20, I MEET HER THERE, I ISSUED A WARRANT AND THEN SHE HAS TO DRIVE UP TO HUNT COUNTY ON THIS TECHNOLOGY.UH, THEY CAN GO ON THERE AND THEY CAN EMAIL ME THAT ON MY LAPTOP.
I CAN LOOK AT THEM AND I SAY, DO YOU SWEAR THIS IS TRUE? OR, AND CORRECT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO SWEAR TO A MAGISTRATE THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE STATING IN THEIR COMPLAINT IS TRUE.
AND THEN I CAN JUST ISSUE THE WARRANT AND SHE WOULD JUST HAVE TO GO ONE PLACE.
IF SHE'S GOT A A, A LAPTOP AND A PRINTER AND I CAN DO MY E-SIGNATURES AND SHE'S, THEY'RE GOOD TO GO.
THE INVESTIGATOR, HE OR SHE CAN GO AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO DRIVE ANY PLACE ELSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT EXCEPT TO THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE WARRANT IS TAKEN.
SO, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S LOTS OF APPLICATIONS FOR IT.
ALRIGHT, OTHER QUESTION AT JP THREE, I WAS WILLING TO PAY FOR THIS.
HE WANTED, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
WELL, S AND COUNTY HAS BELIEVE THAT'S AN EMBARRASSING MEANS.
WELL, LEMME SAY THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T.
WE BUILT SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WATER FOR CENTER, SUCH A NICE MAGISTRATE ROOM.
THEY WOULD RATHER DRIVE AND JUST BEING AN O OCULUS PUL.
I HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT AS YET.
ALL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE ACT, I MAKE A MOTION.
UH, VIDEO ADMINISTRATION DID NOT PERFORM ANY OUTTA THE JB OUTTA THE JP.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS FROM, UH, RICHARD MURPHY TAX ASSESS.
PLEASE REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF, UH, SEPTEMBER.
IT'S FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30.
AND THEN THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE ADJUSTED TAX LEVY, WE COLLECTED $28.8 MILLION, WHICH IS 97% OF THE ORIGINAL OR THE ADJUSTED TAX LEVY ROLL FOR THE ROAD BRIDGE.
WE COLLECTED, UH, 2.8 MILLION, WHICH IS 98 90 7% OF THE ORIGINAL ADJUSTED TAX LEVY ROLL.
IF WE COMPUTE THIS THE SAME WAY A BUDGET WAS SET, WHICH BROUGHT UP SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, UH, WHICH THE BUDGET INCLUDES PENALTIES AND INTEREST EXCEPT LEGAL FEES OR THE GENERAL FUND.
WE COLLECTED 30 MILLION 110,000, WHICH IS HUNDRED 2% OF THE BUDGET.
AND SAME WAY ON THE BROKEN BRIDGE.
I DIDN'T CONFUSE BROKEN BRIDGE SHOULD BE FAIRLY, THAT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT IS, UH, THE PENALTY INTEREST.
WE, THE WAY WE BUDGETED, I BELIEVE ALL BUDGETED ONE, ONE LINE ITEM.
SO, UH, WE'RE NOT MAKING UP ADDITIONAL TAXES IS JUST THE PNI THAT'S USED THAT WELL AND IT'S PUTTING DELINQUENT, IT'S ALL
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MURPHY COMING IN? THANK.
ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROU, UH, MOVES TO ACCEPT THE TAX ASSESSOR'S REPORT OR HAVE SECOND, SECOND, MR. MANNING.
ALL, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, I BE PREPARED NEXT MONTH AND WHILE YOU'RE UP, UH, YOU MIGHT, UH, TELL US ALL THE TAX STATEMENTS ARE IN THE MAIL.
I BELIEVE NOW BEEN FOR ABOUT A WEEK OR SO.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN MAILED AND, AND MOST OF THE CURRENT QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN CALLED IN AND ANSWERED.
ACTUALLY, IT'S THE LAST COUPLE, THREE DAYS BEEN RATHER SLOW.
AND I BELIEVE WHERE YOU INDICATED TO ME YOU'RE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AHEAD OF WHERE YOU WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR AS FAR AS GETTING THE MAILED OUT OR TWO WEEKS OR SOMETHING.
WELL, I DON'T REMEMBER SOMEBODY, ONE OF THE GIRLS MESSED UP WITH ME.
YEAH, IT'S EARLIER I THINK BY SEVERAL DAYS THAN WHAT WE HAD.
BUT ACTUALLY WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF
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MAILING TAXPAYERS GOING.EDUCATION, UH, MOST OF THEM ARE THOSE THAT OWED TO $300, SENDING THEM IN TO GET IT OUTTA THE WAY.
SO IS THAT A HINT THAT ALL OF US HERE AT THE STATE NEED? GO AHEAD AND GET OURS IN.
ABSOLUTELY HEARD THAT DIRECT FROM THE TEXAS JUDGE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO, UH, HEAR FROM OUR TREASURER, UH, CONCERNING THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT IN 2011.
I'D LIKE TO SAID GO AHEAD, PAY NOW.
WE HAD NOT HAVING TO BORROW ANY MONEY THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH.
OUR, OUR COMPUTER SYSTEM SO ANTIQUATED AND I CAN'T CHANGE IT WITHOUT DYING IT HERE.
OKAY, SO ITEM NUMBER 11, UH, ITEM NUMBER 11.
YOU WANT REPORT THOSE FIRST TWO PAGES THERE IT SAYS 6 67 77.
THAT SHOULD ALSO THE NEXT PAGE TOO.
IT'S NOT, WHERE IS IT NOW? THE FIRST PAGE.
IT'S EITHER 6 60, 70 ON THE TOP OF THERE.
ON THE NEXT PAGE IT SHOULD JUST SAME NUMBER TIME.
AND JUST TO, I COULD SAY EXACTLY BUT UH, BEFORE I TOLD YOU, BUT, UH, YEAR, DAYS PREPARING YEAR FOUR HALF, HE HAS ABOUT 2 MILLION REVENUES, HALF DOLLARS WAY.
SO, UH, CASH WISE THAT, THAT MUCH.
NOW WE'RE GONNA DIP INTO, UH, FUND A LITTLE BIT IN OCTOBER, BUT YOU MIGHT BORROW PICK UP A LOT NOVEMBER BEFORE BUSTER.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, JOHNNY? THIS IS ON ITEM 10.
WE'LL, HE'S ASK US TO TABLE 11.
AND WE'LL DO A SEPARATE, UH, SEPARATE MOTION ON THAT.
SO I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURY REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER, 2011.
SO MAY WE HAVE A, A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND THEN ITEM 11, HE'S ASKED US TO TABLE, SO I DIDN'T MUCH FOR THE TABLE.
THAT ONE AT THE TREASURER'S REQUEST UNTIL HE CAN CHECK THAT A LITTLE FURTHER.
UH, NEXT A MOTION TO TABLE A SECOND.
AND UH, JOHNNY, YOU HAVE THE, UH, INVESTMENT REPORT.
COURSE WE HAVE NOTHING GOOD INVESTED.
NOW GENERAL FUNDS, WHICH WE'RE USING ALL THIS AND THE STUFF WE HAVE EXECUTED NOW, OUR FUNDS, WE CANNOT LEGAL, OUR CONSTRUCTION ACCOUNT, FINANCE, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT HAS TAX ON THE MONEY ASIDE.
OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. COUNTRYMAN? NO.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, THE TREASURER'S INVESTMENT REPORT.
SECOND COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, THANK ITEM NUMBER 13.
THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, MR. SEBASTIAN WILL, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT DISCUSSING AND ACTING ON APPRO THE LEASE PURCHASE OF A MOTOR RATE FOR PRECINCT NUMBER TWO.
UH, I THINK YOU HAVE A QUOTE THERE FROM R ON THIS PURCHASE PRICE.
GOT A FOUR 20 TAX HT I'M, I'LL VERIFY THAT THERE'LL BE A BUYBOARD FEE OF $400 ON TOP OF THAT, THIS PURPOSE OFF THE RECOMMENDATION.
ANY QUESTIONS I MAKE, WE DO THIS, BUT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PAY THAT BY POINT FOR IT IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
R IS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BUT GREAT.
THEY SAID, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN PREACHING ALL ALONG.
DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY UNTIL WE HAVE THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, WAIT TILL JANUARY TO BUY SOMETHING.
AND THE REASON I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA NOW IS THAT I'VE GOT A GRANT TO BUY THIS WITH $50,000
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AND I HAVE TO USE THAT GRANT MONEY BY NOVEMBER 30TH.AND SO IF I WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF $50,000, GIMME FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS ON THEIR CLEAN CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT GRANT WHERE THEY PAY 25% OF THE COST OF A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
OR IF YOU GUYS, THEY'LL ALSO PAY, UH, 75% OF THE COST OF A REPOWER.
AND I DUNNO IF YOU KNEW THAT OR NOT.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU'VE GOT A A MOTOR, AN ENGINE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, THEY'LL PAY FOR 75% OF THE COST OF IT.
UH, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD PROGRAM.
UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT.
AND LIKE I SAY, I WOULD NOT BUY THIS TODAY IF IT WASN'T FOR HAVING A CHANCE OF LOSING THAT MONEY BY NOVEMBER 30TH, I WOULD WAIT TILL JANUARY.
LIKE I'VE BEEN, UH, ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY ELSE TO DO.
I THINK I'M GONNA SET THIS UP ON LEASE PAYMENT.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET GRANT THAT YOUR, WELL, THIS WILL BE A PURCHASE.
I, I GOING YOU THAT IT, IT'S NOT GONNA A LEASE PURCHASE.
SO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ADVERTISING.
A BID TO INSTALL COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT ON THE COMMUNICATIONS TOWER LOCATED AT THE TON COUNTY SHERIFF.
JUDGE, I'M VERY ASKED TO GET THIS ENTIRE PROJECT, UH, STARTED AND WE ASSIST.
SO, AND, UH, UH, MAKE SURE OUR WORK NEEDED.
I DON'T HAVE ANY DATES FOR THIS TIME.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, GET ALL OF OUR FUTURE PROJECTS ON THAT TOWER.
DOES AT ONE TIME, I THINK AT ONE TIME THERE WAS, UH, SOME FIBER OPTICS THAT WAS MENTIONED ON THIS AS WELL.
I'D LIKE, UH, TO GET ALL THAT AT ONE TIME.
I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR ATTORNEY, MR. LONG, UH, THAT'S CORRECT.
OTHER DISCUSSIONS, OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? WHAT, WHAT IS GONNA BE THE SPECIFICATION? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO? UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT, GET
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THAT FROM YOU.SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, MAYBE RUN, RUN THOSE INSPECT BY THE COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A, UH, FOR, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE PART OF THE REGULAR BID.
IS THIS THE ONE WE HAD THE CONTROVERSY OVER ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO WITH THE SAME THING? YES SIR.
I THINK IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT 14 MONTHS.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE.
THIS WILL HELP US MOVE BEYOND THAT.
AND THIS MAY BE SOMETHING WE MAY ULTIMATELY WANNA PUT ON THE WORKSHOP, PERHAPS, UH, IN CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS KIND OF HANGING OUT THERE THAT TALK ABOUT OR MAYBE NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE NEED TO OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THESE WORKSHOPS, UH, THERE AGAIN, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GET EVERYTHING DONE AT ONE TIME.
I DON'T WANT, I WOULD HATE TO SEE TO DO SOME WORK THIS TIME.
AND THEN YEAH, WE NEED TO PRETTY MUCH LATER COME BACK AND ADD SOMETHING TO THE TOWEL.
YEAH, WE NEED TO MOVE ON WITH IT.
AND I, I THINK IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND CUSSED AND REDISCUSSED.
SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S AN, AN EFFORT TO DO THAT.
SO I THAT YOUR QUESTION, IT'S, IT GETS US ON DOWN THE ROAD WITH IT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER, UH, RED MAKES THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON SECOND THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY JUST FOR THE RECORD DISCUSSION ON WHETHER WE SHOULD USE A CO-OP OR DIG THIS OUT? I, NOT THE COURT TO BE AWARE, BUT, YOU KNOW, FIRST SECTION 2 6 2 11, THE GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, THE FIRST AGENTS ONE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE PURCHASE FOR THE COUNTY.
IT'S MY DISCRETION ON WHETHER WE USE A CO-OP OR IT A SITUATION.
SO HOW THAT WORKS, THAT'S NEVER COME A QUESTION EVER PASSED.
I NEVER HAD HAD A SITUATION WHERE, UH, I HAD TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GET LEGAL OPINION, WHETHER WE GET A CAR OR NOT.
THAT'S MY JOB AND THAT'S MY STATUTE.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK AND MOVING FORWARD, UH, WITH THAT ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON DONATING COUNTY SURPLUS PROPERTY AND FURNITURE.
THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER, UH, AS, UH, SPECIFIED BY THE TEXAS LAW LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
JACK, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE, UH, INFORMATION ON THAT JUDGE.
I MET WITH THOSE FOLKS AND, UH, THEY WERE LOOKING SOME ITEMS OUT THERE AND AVENUE EQUIPMENT WE'RE ALLOWED CODE TO DONATE THAT FILE.
AND UH, IT'S MOSTLY NOT WORTH ANYTHING, BUT IT'S ONE AVENUE UTILIZE TO GET OF, UNLESS IT HELPS US KIND OF CLEAN UP AN AREA TOO.
I'M NOT TAKE AS MUCH AS TO TWO FILE CABINETS.
ALRIGHTY, UH, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACT ON ITEM SIX 16.
SO MAY, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. ROB.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? THEY'VE BEEN CALLING YOU BECAUSE THEY CALL ME ONE MORE TIME.
THEY COME DOWN AND PICK UP THEIR FILE ANYTIME.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ACCEPTING THE DEDICATION OF BEDROOM LANE AS A COUNTY ROAD.
AND, UH, IT'S MR. S YES WE DO.
Y'ALL THOUGHT THIS WAS GONE, GONE, GONE, DIDN'T IT? BACK AGAIN.
UH, JOHN AND I, JOHN LONG I HAVE MET ON THIS THING AND I LET JUST READ YOU HIS LITTLE, HIS MEMORANDUM HERE REAL QUICK.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ME MEMORANDUM IS TO BRIEFLY REVIEW A REQUEST BY FIVE LANDOWNERS ON BEDRICK LANE FOR A DEDICATION OF A PRIVATE ROAD TO BECOME A PUBLIC ROAD.
UH, A DEDICATION OF AN EXISTING ROAD HAS FOUR ELEMENTS.
PERSON DEDICATION MUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO, WHICH THEY DO.
THERE MUST BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY THIS DEDICATION.
UH, THEN HE GAVE YOU THIS LITTLE
THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE DEDICATION MUST BE.
THERE MUST BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY THE DEDICATION.
THE PERSONS MUST MAKE EITHER AN EXCESS OR AN IMPLIED OFFER, WHICH THEY HAVE.
AND THERE MUST BE ACCEPTANCE ON OUR,
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ON, ON OUR PART, WHICH IS UP TO, TO US TODAY, ISSUE CONCERNED THE ROAD APPROXIMATELY THAT HAD TO MILE LINK AS KNOWN AS BUDGET LANE.THERE ARE TWO LANDOWNERS THAT HAVE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS THE ROAD AND THREE MORE THAT HAVE ACCESS TO THE ROAD.
ALL FOUR HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH COMMISSIONER ROW AND HAVE REQUESTED THIS ACCESS.
IT WILL COST APPROXIMATELY $4,000 TO BRING THE ROAD TO COUNTY STANDARDS.
I, THAT'S A LITTLE MIS MISLEADING.
IT'S NOT COMPLETELY TO OUR SUBDIVISION STANDARDS, BUT IT IS COUNTY STANDARDS BECAUSE WE THINK THIS IS NOT A SUBDIVISION.
THREE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE, UH, UH, OFFERED TO PAY 800 FOR THEIR SHARE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE TWO OTHERS HAVE ASKED FOR A PERIOD OF SEVERAL MONTHS IS WHICH TO PAY THAT PORTION.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR THEM TO PLACE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR EVENT, BUT PRESUMABLY THE OFFER WAS MADE TO ROWDEN ADVISED ME THAT HE ANTICIPATES THAT IT'LL COST TWO TO $4,000 A YEAR IN MAINTENANCE AFTER THIS INITIAL 4,000.
UH, THE PUBLIC PURPOSE AS PREVENTED AS COMMISSIONERS.
YOU'LL SEE IN MY LITTLE LETTER THERE IS THE EXCESS OF ROAD IN TIMES OF INCLEMENT WEATHER.
UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLES OR SCHOOL BUSES CANNOT ENTER THE ROAD IN TIMES OF SEVERE WEATHER.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INCIDENTS THAT ILLUSTRATE THIS POINT, BUT THAT SHOULD BE PERFECTLY OBVIOUS SINCE, UH, IF, IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TO SEE THE ROAD, UH, THE PERFECT, THE PUBLIC PURPOSE, AS WE SAID IN MY LETTER, UH, I AM NOT AWARE OF A BRIGHT LINE RULE SINCE THE CONVERSION OF
IN MOST SENSE, A COPY OF THE MAP IS ATTACHED TO THIS.
THE HAND DRAWINGS, I WOULD ASK THAT THIS MATTER BE SET ON ITS MISSION COURT.
OKAY? SO, UH, WE KIND OF BACK WHERE WE WERE.
WE, UH, AFTER TALKING WITH JOHN AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS, UH, HE THINKS THE DEDICATION IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS RATHER THAN JUST GET IN THE, GET BACK IN THE EASEMENT BUSINESS AND, AND DO IT NOW.
SO, UH, I THINK JOHN AGREES WITH ME THAT EVERYTHING IS OKAY IN THIS.
AS SOON AS WE GET WILL, WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE VOTE TO GET THE DEDICATION FROM THOSE PEOPLE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S THE ACCEPTANCE OF, OF, OF THEIR OFFER.
BUT, BUT I, I, I MEAN, I WANNA BE CLEAR, I, I WROTE THE MEMO ON, ON THIS, BUT I, I'M, I'M NOT SUGGESTING TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR THIS.
I'M SAYING THAT, THAT THEY CERTAINLY HAVE SEVERAL OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE OFFER.
BUT, BUT MORE CRITICAL QUESTION IS FOR Y'ALL TO DECIDE IS DO WE THINK THIS IS A, A PROPER PUBLIC PURPOSE? AND EVEN IF WE DO, WE WANT TO ACCEPT IT.
AND ARE WE CONCERNED ABOUT ANY PRECEDENT? THOSE ARE POLITICAL QUESTIONS AND I CAN'T ANSWER FOR YOU.
I CAN JUST RAISE THAT IT APPEARS ON, ON ITS FACE THAT IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY HAS, UH, THE OFFER.
AND THEY TRIED TO, UH, UH, UH, TO MINIMIZE THE EFFECT BY THE OFFER OF PAYING FOR, UH, THE INITIAL, UH, RENOVATIONS TO THE ROAD.
BUT THE, THEIR OFFER IS, IS, IS A, AN EFFECTIVE DEDICATION IN ITS OWN.
THAT, THAT WILL WE DROP A, A SPECIFIC DEDICATION? WE, WE WOULD, BUT IF IN FACT, COMMISSIONER COURT VOTES TO ACCEPT THIS DEDICATION, THEN WE DROP AN INSTRUMENT OR REFLECT THAT, OKAY, THIS THING HAS BEEN BEFORE THE COURT MORE THAN ONCE.
AND IT, IT'S BEEN, I THINK BEFORE ON LEGAL GROUNDS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD THE EASEMENTS OR, OR WHATEVER THE, THE, UH, THE GROUNDS WERE.
UH, MY ONLY THING ABOUT THIS IS WHAT I SAID THERE.
I, I BELIEVE WE OWE THEM THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY.
WHETHER OR NOT THEY MADE SOME DECISIONS WAY BACK IN THE PAST THAT SUPERSEDE THAT.
I, I CAN'T SAY THAT, BUT I THINK WE OWN THAT ALSO.
UH, ANYBODY OUT THERE WERE TO HAVE A SERIOUS ILLNESS OR A FIRE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR THAT A FIRE TRUCK OR AN MANUAL COULD NOT GET DOWN IN THERE.
UH, OR CHILDREN OUT THERE TRYING TO GO TO THE SCHOOL BUS, THEY HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY UP TO, TO 25 78 TO GET ON A SCHOOL BUS.
SO THE FACT THAT I'M WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON AND IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT, UH, SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT OUGHT TAKE SOME, UH, CREDENCE WHENEVER WE DECIDE TWO TO $4,000 THAT THEY'RE PAYING, THAT'S JUST A ONE TIME DEAL, RIGHT? THAT'S A ONE TIME DEAL.
AND I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY COST TWO OR THREE OR FOUR AS THE YEAR GOES ALONG AFTER WE, IF WE ACCEPT THIS, TO MAINTAIN THAT, TO KEEP IT LIKE IT SHOULD BE.
HOW, HOW LONG IS IT ROAD? UH, IT'S JUST A HALF A MILE LONG.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A HARDTOP ROAD, IT'S NOT A CHIP SEAL ROAD.
AND, UH, SO ALL I'M ASKING YOU IS TO LET ME SPEND MY MONEY, UH, WHICH IS ALREADY IN MY BUDGET TO, UH,
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TAKE OVER THEIR ROAD.I KNOW THIS MAY SET PRECEDENCE FOR SOME OF YOU THAT MAY BE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE IN YOUR PRECINCTS.
I I CAN'T DO MUCH ABOUT THAT IF WE DO THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY OUT THERE.
BUT I THINK THESE PEOPLE DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR, UH, OUT OF, IN, IN AND OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY.
AND I'M WILLING TO TAKE MY SHARE OUT OF THAT TO SEE THAT THAT GETS DONE WELL.
I'VE HAD, I'VE GOT THREE INSTANCES OVER IN MY PRECINCT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IT TOO.
UH, I'D LIKE IF I NEED SOME KIND OF A LEGAL MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS DOING THE CHAPTER 2 53 THING, WHERE YOU GO WHERE YOU CAN IMPROVE A SUBDIVISION AND EVIDENTLY WHAT I SEE, THIS LITTLE HANDWRITTEN THING UP THERE, THIS COULD QUALIFY AS A SUBDIVISION BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, ALL THE TRACKS ARE NOT BIGGER THAN 10 ACRES.
I MEAN, SO IT HAS BEEN SUBDIVIDED TECHNICALLY AT ONE POINT OR THE OTHER.
WELL, I'VE TALKED TO JOHN ABOUT THAT AND, AND HIS LEGAL, HIS OPINION IS THAT IT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION.
I I WAS NOT AWARE THAT IT WAS A SUBDIVISION.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT A PLA SUBDIVISION, BUT IT, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE'S AT LEAST ONE TRACK IN THERE THAT'S, UH, THERE'S A TRACK OF TWO AND A HALF ACRES, ONE OF 6.2 ACRES, AND OTHER ONES ARE BIGGER THAN, THAN THE 10 TANK.
SO TECHNICALLY WHERE THE LAW IS IT NOT THEN IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE, UH, A CITY'S ETJ, THAT ONCE YOU DIVIDE THE TRACK INTO PARCELS OF LESS THAN 10 ACRES, YOU'RE CERTAIN A PLANT'S SUPPOSED TO BE REQUIRED.
HE MUST WASN'T DONE WAY BACK THEN.
BUT WOULD THAT NOT QUALIFY AS A SUBDIVISION? AND IF IT WAS A SUBDIVISION, HE COULD DO IT WITH ALL THE PART OF HIS MONEY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO OVER WHERE I'M AT BECAUSE, BUT WHERE I, THE THING I'VE GOT IS THE SAME ISSUE YOU GOT RIGHT HERE.
THERE'S NOT ROOM TO GET A TURNAROUND.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE 140 FOOT DIAMETER TURNAROUND FOR A SCHOOL BUS YEAH.
AND THE TWO ROADS I'VE GOT OVER THAT I KNOW THAT I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT ONE OF 'EM, I'M MAKING 'EM DEDICATED 140 FOOT EASEMENT FOR A TURNAROUND.
THEY'RE GOING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS GUY'S HOUSE AND PUTTING, PUTTING THAT IN THERE.
THEY DEDICATED THE OTHER TWO PLACES.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION BECAUSE THE ROADS, WELL, WE HAVE THE OPTION HERE TO DO THAT IF THAT'S NECESSARY.
I JUST DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A SUBDIVISION.
I I CAN'T SPEND THE MONEY TO BRING IT UP TO SUBDIVISION COUNTY ROADS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE A HARD TOP ROAD AND A CHIPS HILL AND THE WHOLE THING.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TAKE IT OVER EXACTLY LIKE IT IS.
UH, WHETHER, WHETHER THAT'S A SUBDIVISION OR NOT.
I, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2 53 JURY, IT SAYS YOU CAN ASSESS ALL OR PART OF THE COST.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASSESS ALL OF IT.
UH, ARE YOU SAYING I COULD ASSESS THEM $4,000 AND THEN I YOU ASSESS 'EM A DOLLAR? I BELIEVE IT SAYS ALL OR PART OF THE COST.
I WAS CHARGE THEM FOR WHATEVER I WAS GONNA SPEND ON IT, YOU KNOW, TO BRING IT UP TO WHAT IT'S, UH, BUT YOU, I I WOULD, AND I'D DO SOME
THE OTHER TWO ROADS YOU CAN'T DRIVE A SCHOOL BUS WARRANT AMBULANCE.
WELL THAT'S WHY THIS ONE IS TELL YOU THAT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE, BUT I CAN'T FIND A LEGAL MECHANISM WHERE I COULD DO IT.
WELL, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ROADS DOWN THERE IN PRECINCT THREE KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING.
YOU GOING THROUGH AND NOW I I TELL 'EM WELL YOU NEED TO BRING IT UP TO COUNTY SPECS, YOU KNOW, TO THE STANDARD OF THE COUNTY.
SO IF, IF WE DO THIS AND THEY DON'T BRING IT UP TO THE COUNTY SPECS TO EXPENSE OF THE COUNTY, OH, THEY OPEN DOORS FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
WELL, I, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.
I, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, ARE YOURS IN SUBDIVISIONS? NO.
SEE, I ASSUME MY WHOLE THING IS THAT THIS IS NOT A SUBDIVISION.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO A HARD TOP PRODUCT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO TAKE IT OVER AS A PIECE OF PROPERTY OUT IN THE COUNTY THAT'S NEVER, UH, NEVER HAD A, A LEGAL SUBDIVISION OR ANYTHING.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO TAKE IT OVER JUST LIKE IT IS.
WELL, DEFINE WHAT IS COUNTY SUSPECT.
I I UNDERSTAND THE SUBDIVISION, WHAT WOULD BE COUNTY SPEC WHATEVER IS NOT A SUBDIVISION.
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT WHAT IS NOT A SUBDIVISION, IT'S JUST PURE COUNTY STUFF.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M BASING MY WHOLE THING ON THIS IN THAT THIS IS NOT A SUBDIVISION.
SO I'M NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED TO BRING IT UP TO A HARDTOP ROAD OR A, OR A ASPHALT ROAD OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WANTING TO ACCEPT IT, JUST LIKE IT'S, WHETHER THAT'S LEGAL, JOHN, JOHN WILL HAVE TO, UH, UH, BUT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP TO WHATEVER THE COUNTY STANDARDS ARE.
I I'VE NOT BEEN TO THE ROAD, NOT SUBDIVISION STANDARD.
IF YOU SAY IT'S A COUNTY STANDARD.
OH, WHAT ARE THE COUNTY STANDARD YOU STAND? THE COUNTY STANDARD IS SAME AS SUBDIVISION STANDARD.
THAT WHAT YOU'RE, WELL, I BELIEVE THERE'S A STATUTE, JOHN CORRECT ME AS WRONG, IS THERE NOT A STATUTE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO DO, TO
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CONSTRUCT A NEW ROAD AND ANY METHOD THAT YOU NOT CONSTRUCTING THE COUNTY'S INSTRUCTING, CONSTRUCTING A NEW ROAD.SO IF WE WERE PUT A ROCK ROAD IN AND THEN DEVELOP, PUT ROCK ROAD IN FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
WE CAN'T, UNLESS IT'S UP TO THE COUNTY STANDARDS ALREADY.
THE DEDICATION WOULD'VE TO BE ABLE TO BE DEDICATED AND THEN MONIES WOULD'VE TO BE SPENT TO BRING IT UP TO THAT STANDARD.
WELL, I I MEAN YOU COULD ACCEPT IT.
YOU COULD DEDICATE IT, BUT THEN YOU'D HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY SPEND MONEY ON IT TO BRING IT UP TO THE SAME STANDARD.
IS THERE, IS THERE TWO SEPARATE ACTIONS TO ACCEPT DEDICATION, THEN ACCEPT THE MAINTENANCE? KINDA LIKE WE DO ALL IN SEPARATE.
SO WE, WE FIRST ACCEPT THE DEDICATION WHEN THEY PLAN IT, AND THEN AFTER THEY
I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A, A SEPARATE ACTION.
THIS IS, I THINK IT'S BEING OFFERED AS A DEDICATION IN WHICH THEY WOULD OFFER MONEY AS PART OF THE DEDICATION, AS AN INCENTIVE TO, TO DO IT.
THAT THEY'RE OFFERING A SUM OF MONEY OF WHATEVER, $800 FOR EACH OF THE, THEY'RE OFFERING A SUM OF MONEY THAT WILL JUST IMPROVE IT AS IT IS.
THEY'RE NOT OFFERING ENOUGH MONEY TO BRING IT UP TO A HARD TOP.
YEAH, I I I, I HAVEN'T MADE ANY DETERMINATION OF IS THIS ENOUGH MONEY, BUT, BUT THAT'S PART OF, OF THEIR OFFER.
I KINDA UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMISSION STANDS.
AND YOU JUST WANT THIS TO BE A ROCK ROAD.
I'M JUST GONNA CONTINUE IT AS A ROCK ROAD THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE BRINGING IT UP TO SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT BRINGING IT UP.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNTY REGULATIONS ARE.
WELL, IN OTHER WORDS, IN MY FIRST THING, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CLASSICALLY BLACK DIRT ROADS, YOU KNOW, JUST BLACK LAND DIRT ROADS THAT HAD A CROWN PUT IN AND THEN HAD FIVE, SIX INCHES OF ROCK BLADE OVER AND BLADE IT OFF.
NOW IS THAT, IS THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY, WHAT IS THAT, IS THAT A COUNTY STANDARD ROAD? THAT'S WHAT I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, IT MUST BE 'CAUSE THERE'S ABOUT 200 MILES OF IT DOWN THERE.
WE'RE YEAH, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE TRYING.
I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BRING IT UP TO A HARD ROAD RIGHT NOW.
UH, EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY WE WOULD, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ACCEPT IT AS IT IS AND CONTINUE IT ON AS IT IS UNTIL TIMES GET BETTER AND WE GET ENOUGH MONEY TO, TO DO EVERYBODY OUT THERE HAS AGREED TO PAY THEIR PROPORTION OF SHARE.
BUT THE QUESTION IS A LEGAL THING.
IS THIS A, AM I ALL RIGHT TAKING THAT OVER AND JUST LEAVING IT AS A ROCK ROAD LIKE IT IS? WELL, I, I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION IS, IS DO, DO YOU WANT DEDICATION? AND THEN THE SECOND IS THAT THE STANDARD, UH, I MEAN THEN WHATEVER THE STANDARD IS, IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE COMMISSIONER MANING HAS SAID, HERE'S WHAT HE IS TALKING OUR STANDARD.
YES, BUT IS IT 18 POTHOLES EVERY 18 INCHES? IS IT 18 WA NO, THAT'S NOT STANDARDS EXCEPTION EXCEPT NOT THE ROOF.
IS IT 18 WA 16? UH, I CAN MAKE IT 18.
I COULD DO THAT, BUT I I JUST CAN'T BRING IT UP TO A, YOU KNOW, TO A HARDTOP ROAD RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND I I WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS JURY MM-HMM
AND IF YOU, IF YOU COULD GET DONE, I WOULD SURE LIKE BE GET DO IT.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT A, UH, AN ATTORNEY'S OPINION FOR PALMER COUNTY, KAMAN COUNTY ATTORNEY, DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
UH, ANY LOCALIZED CONCERNS, NO MATTER HOW SIGNIFICANT WILL NOT JUSTIFY THE EXPENDITURE OF COUNTY FUNDS.
IT MUST MEET, LIKE I SAY, WHAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS THE PUBLIC PURPOSE.
UH, IT MUST MEET THE CONCERN OF CITIZENS ON A COUNTYWIDE BASIS.
LOCALIZED CONCERNS ARE NOT COUNTYWIDE BASIS.
WELL, HOW DOES ANY ROAD MEET THE, THE CONCERNS OF EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE COUNTY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
JOHN, YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE SO YOU CAN
I WAS GONNA ASK IF I COULD MOVE TO THE BACK.
WHAT IS THE BACK QUESTION? THE LINE, CAN I FIND LINE THE CHAIR? THAT MIGHT BE THE ANSWER.
WHAT IS THE LINE? WELL, THAT IS THE PROMISE THAT THERE'S NO RIGHT LINE ANSWER.
AND, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND IN A SENSE THE PUBLIC PURPOSE, BUT THE, THE CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE IF I WERE YOU IS, IS THAT THE PUBLIC PURPOSE IN THIS SENSE SEEMS TO BE JUST THE SEVERAL FOLKS THAT, THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S TWO, UH, IMMEDIATE, THERE'S LANDOWNERS AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHERS.
SO I GUESS THERE'S A TOTAL, WELL, EVERY SINGLE ROAD THAT RUNS OFF DOWN IN THE COUNTY
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AND DEAD ENDS HAS THAT SAME THING, AND THEY'RE ALL COUNTY ROADS.I DON'T, I I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THAT MEANS, BECAUSE EVERY ROAD THAT GOES OFF INTO THE COUNTY AND DEAD END ONLY, UH, SATISFIES THOSE PEOPLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT CAN BE A, A DETERMINANT FACTOR.
WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT BEING A DEAD END MEANS THAT IT, IT PRECLUDES IT FROM A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
BUT I GUESS I WOULD JUST BE CONCERNED BECAUSE THE, UM, THE STATED PURPOSE IS THAT, UM, THAT THERE'S CONCERN FOR I GUESS BOTH BUSES AND ALSO EMERGENCY VEHICLES, UM, AND GOING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD AND, UM, AND, AND THAT MAY IN FACT BE THE CASE THAT IT REMAINS AGAIN, THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
UH, BUT, UM, BUT, UH, I, I GUESS THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS, IS, IS HOW, HOW BIG IS THIS? MM-HMM
AS I SAID, THE REASON FOR THE DEDICATION IS TO GIVE, FRANKLY NOT A BIG WORD.
I, I THINK ON ITS FACE ARE SAYING YES, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND THE PUBLIC COULD GET ON THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER ROUND, RAISE THIS A GOOD QUESTION.
IF IT'S A DEAD ROAD, ARE Y'ALL SITTING, WELL, I GUESS ON JERRY'S BEHALF OR MY BEHALF, I, I GO IN THERE AND TAKE, IF I GET THE ROAD I'M TALKING ABOUT OVER, IF I GET 'EM DEDICATE 60 FEET, DEDICATION, GOING DOWN THROUGH THERE FOR CAN I LEGALLY GO IN THERE AND RECONSTRUCT THAT ROAD? WILL I BE, I KNOW I YOU CAN'T BE SUED FOR ANYTHING.
BUT WOULD WOULD OUR COUNTY STANDING BE AFFECTED BY THE GUY RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD THAT SAYS THE SAME THING BUT YOU DIDN'T DO HIS? YEAH.
UH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE MORE PROBLEMATIC THING IS, IS WHAT PRECEDENT ARE YOU SAYING? WHAT, WHAT? AND, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PASS JUDGMENT ON THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS THEN ALL YOUR CONSTITUENTS YEAH.
I'M JUST SAYING WE OPEN THE DOORS FOR WHATEVER WE DO.
WE DON'T, OH, I DON'T DOUBT THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T ARGUE ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
YOU'LL HAVE TO JUST BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SAYING NO FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND I WOULD LOVE SAY YES BECAUSE I JUST TELL 'EM THEY HAD TO BRING IT UP A STANDARD.
IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BRING IT UP A STANDARD, I COULDN'T TAG IT OVER.
BUT THEN IF YOU TAG IT OVER, THEN I'M GONNA HAVE TO HEAR FROM THESE PEOPLE AGAIN, SUBDIVISION NICE.
BUT IT, I THINK IT'S JUST, UH, OPEN IT LIKE TOM SAID, THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY STANDARDS ARE.
DO WE NEED TO DO WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP AND SET US, WE NEED TO SET A, SET US A COUNTY STANDARD AS FAR AS ROAD GOES? OR WILL IT HAVE, WILL IT INVOLVE THE ENGINEERING GUY AND ALL THAT STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT? SURELY NOT.
WE'RE TALKING, WE HAVE SUBDIVISIONS ALREADY.
I CAN LOOK UP AND SEE GENERAL, WHAT THE COUNTY STANDARD IS AND IF IT DIFFERS FROM, FOR A NEW ROAD SUBDIVISION.
YEAH, WE, WE, WE, WE'VE SAID WHAT THE COUNTY STANDARDS ARE NEW ROAD, RIGHT? BUT ANY ROAD BE CONSIDERED NEW ROAD, BUT ANY ROAD THAT'S TAKEN OVER HAS TO COME UP TO THAT STANDARD.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, ALRIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS THE ONE ROAD THAT, THAT LEGACY LANE THAT, UH, IS GONNA BE IN PRECINCT ONE AFTER JANUARY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR, BRING IT UP TO THE, TO THE COUNTY STANDARDS OF, YOU KNOW, CEMENT STABILIZED BASE AND ASPHALT AND, AND THE 140 FOOT CALLS THAT AT THE END OF THE FIRST SCHOOL BUS, YOU KNOW, I CAN READ IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT OUT IN THE COUNTY, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT TELLS ME TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO DO.
I'M JUST TRYING TO ACCEPT THEIR ROAD LIKE IT IS.
AND IF I'M ACCEPTING THAT ROAD AS A COUNTY ROAD, THEN YOU, THAT'S THE COUNTY STANDARD AS I SEE IT.
AND I DON'T THAT BUSINESS ABOUT BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC THEN EVERY SINGLE ROAD THAT GOES OUT IN THE COUNTY AND DEAD END, UH, SHOULDN'T BE A COUNTY ROAD ACCORDING TO THAT.
AND THAT JUST SERVE THOSE, I WISH I HAD SOMETHING TO TEAR UP AND THROW
WELL WE, ANYWAY, I KNOW WE, WE BEAT THIS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, AND MAYBE, UH, WE DO IT RIGHT.
MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, WE, WE MAY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A VERY LONG
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WORKSHOP SESSION, BUT MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK AND APPROACH IT WHEN WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME AND SEE IT'S PRECEDENT SETTING THOUGH.I THINK WHAT THE ISSUE IS AS MUCH AS ANYTHING.
WELL, IT WILL SET THE PRECEDENT.
YEAH, THERE'S NO, I MEAN, I, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD.
I WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE, THE, UH, MAKE THE, THE, UH, MOTION THAT I'LL BE ALLOWED TO ACCEPT THIS ROAD AS IT IS AND CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT IN THE FUTURE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROWDEN TO ACCEPT THE DEDICATION OF BED LANE AS A COUNTY ROAD.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND AGAIN? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SECOND THIS TAKE MOTION? LIE IS BID FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
UH, THANK FOR THE HEALTHY DISCUSSION AND THIS WILL BE ONE THAT WE'LL MAY WANNA COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IN THE WORKSHOP.
UH, SESSION ITEM NUMBER 18 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON THE 2012 COLTON COUNTY RESOLUTION FOR INDIGENT DEFENSE GRANT, UH, FORMULA FUNDS.
NOW YES, THIS IS JUST THE, UH, NORMAL 40 $45,000 GRANT THAT GOES INTO OUR INT DEFENSE COSTS, UH, OF ABOUT 600,000.
IT'S NOT, I BIG A PORTION OF IT, BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE GRANT, WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT.
AND THIS IS, UH, A RESOLUTION, UH, JUST INDICAT THAT WE'RE ACCEPTING THAT GRANT FOR THE GRANT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED.
I MEAN, THE RESOLUTION NEEDS TO BE APPROVED AND SIGNED, AND THEN THERE'S A NUMBER, FAX NUMBER OR AN ADDRESS, I DUNNO, WHERE WE'RE NOW, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'LL DO.
I'LL CONFIRMATION WHAT IT WOULD COST TO BRING IT UP TO.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, HAL ON THIS, ON THE DEFENSE GRANT? I'M GUESSING IT'S GONNA BE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE 20,000 OR SO.
I GUESS DOESN'T FLORIDA SECONDS ALL IN ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
VOTE OPPOSED? ALL ITEM NUMBER 19 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING A FUND BALANCE POLICY FOR THE COUNTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UH, GSB REQUIREMENTS AS OUTLINED IN STATEMENT 54 OF THE NEW GA.
YES, GB 54 CAME OUT AND IS APPLICABLE, UH, ACTUALLY AS OF THE END OF LAST, AS A SEPTEMBER 3RD.
UH, AND IN TALKING WITH OUR, UH, REQUIRED OUTSIDE AUDITOR, UH, THEY SUGGESTED WE GO AND GET THIS POLICY APPROVED.
UH, THERE ARE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT, UH, STRIVING TO MEET CERTAIN GOALS AS FAR AS THE, UH, GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE.
AND AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY MEETING THOSE DOLLARS.
RIGHT? UH, SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO PASS A RESOLUTION WHERE WE'RE NOT, UH, MEETING THE UH, BUT IT'S A GOAL TO FAR, THAT'S WHY IT'S WRITTEN THAT WAY, IS IF WE TO REACH THAT 10 TO 20%, I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE NUMBER IS, RIGHT? UH, I WISH IT NEEDS TO BE HIGHER.
I WISH IT WERE HIGHER, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THERE AND THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THERE AS WELL ABOUT WHEN THINGS START IMPROVING WHEN THEY PUSH THAT NUMBER HIGHER, BUT THAT'D BE ALL TO SEE.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF JUST WHERE A LOT OF GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE STRUGGLING.
I WOULD ASSUME THIS IS NOT JUST TEXAS THING.
NO, THIS IS A NATIONWIDE, NATIONWIDE EFFORT.
SB IS THE, THE STANDARD SETTING BOARD FOR ANY FINANCIAL STATE.
WE FILE FOR BOND REQUIREMENTS OR MUNICIPAL COUNCIL REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THEY ARE THE STANDARD SETTING BOARD.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS NOW? I'LL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AND ACT IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. MANNING.
UH, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE SIGN UP SHEET.
IS IT TOO LATE FOR SOMEONE TO SIGN UP ON THAT? IS THAT AT THAT OPTION ALREADY? WELL, WE PUT THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, SO, UH, IF WE CAN HEAR THEM AT A LATER MEETING, IF THEY WISH TO COME IN, ONE OF THE LATEST OUT THERE WANTED TO SPEAK, SHE DIDN'T SIGN UP, WE WE'D BE WELCOME TO HAVE HER IF SHE WANTS TO COME OUT AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON MEETING, I'LL DO THAT.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO, NO, NO.
I THOUGHT YOU RAISED NO, I'M JUST MARK OFF.
ITEM 20 IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON PROPOSAL FROM EAST TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER FOR COFFEE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
AND, UH, LET ME, UH, TELL YOU THE REASON WHY AND ASK STEVE AND THE EAST TEXAS MEDICAL FOLKS, UH, TO COME FORWARD.
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KNOW WE HAVE LEAST ONE REPRESENTATIVE.WE, UH, HAVE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS PARTICIPATED IN AN AGREEMENT, ACTUALLY IT'S A CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH CARELY WHERE WE PROVIDE, UH, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES A MEDICAL HELICOPTER AND I THINK ALSO GROUND SERVICE, UH, WITH THAT.
AND, UH, THAT IT DID REQUIRE A CONTRACT.
WE'VE HAD SOME USAGE OF THAT GENTLEMAN CAME BY, THE PRESIDENT'S COMPANY GAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
AND UH, AFTER HEARING COMMENT FROM A FEW PEOPLE THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT HAVE BETTER UTILIZATION, I ASKED STEVE TO, UH, GET IN TOUCH WITH THESE TEXAS MEDICAL WHO SERVES MOST OF OUR COUNTY, I GUESS PRACTICALLY ALL OF OUR COUNTIES, I THINK, UH, NOW AND SEE IF THEY MIGHT HAVE A SIMILAR PROGRAM.
AND THEY ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT THAT THEY WOULD ASK US TO SIGN, BUT THEY WOULD PROVIDE A, UH, SERVICE TO OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT WOULD PROVIDE, UH, NOT ONLY AIR SERVICE, UH, AND BUT GROUND SERVICE AS WELL.
AND IT WOULD BE AT, UH, IT WOULD BE AT THE, UH, UH, EACH EMPLOYEE WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR IT IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT AT $30 PER PERSON.
AND MY, UH, BELIEF IS, IS THAT WE, THIS IS A, A GOOD FRINGE BENEFIT THAT WE COULD PROVIDE SINCE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PROVIDING FUNDING.
WE'LL PROBABLY MAY COST US A TAD BIT MORE, BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD BE, UH, WE MIGHT HAVE MORE UTILIZATION OF THAT, UH, AT $30 PER PERSON.
AND SO STEVE, IF YOU WANT TO TALK OR INTRODUCE THE PERSON HERE WITH YOU, THAT'S, WE HAVE, UH, JOHN SMITH, WHO IS OUR NEW REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR OUR AREA, TC HOWARD, GOT TRANSFERRED TO SMITH AND HENDERSON COUNTY.
SO JOHN JUST RECENTLY GOT PROMOTED AND HE'S UNDER FIRE TODAY.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH CARE FLIGHT AS FAR AS AIR MEDICAL CARE FLIGHT WAS ONLY PROVIDING LESS THAN 1% OF THE PICKUPS IN TON COUNTY.
UH, AIR EVAC, WHICH HAS TWO HELICOPTERS, ONE IN AND ONE IN GREENVILLE.
THEY DO ABOUT 85% OF THE CALLS AND I BELIEVE NEXT WOULD COME EAST TEXAS WITH ABOUT 10%.
AND THEN PHI KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE IN THERE, BY FAR SINCE EAST TEXAS IS OUR CONTRACT AMBULANCE FOR THE COUNTY, THIS IS GONNA PROVIDE THE MOST BENEFIT TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES.
UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA USE A GROUND AMBULANCE FAR MORE THAN YOU'RE GONNA USE A HELICOPTER.
THE OTHER THING IS WHEN YOU CALL FOR A HELICOPTER, IT'S WHOEVER'S AVAILABLE AND WHOEVER'S CLOSEST.
SO YOU MAY GET CARE FLIGHT, YOU MAY GET EAST TEXAS, YOU MAY GET AIR EVAC, YOU DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT AFTER TALKING TO THE JUDGE AND WITH EAST TEXAS, TO ME THIS SEEMS LIKE THE, THE BEST USE OF OUR MONEY.
UH, IT'S GONNA COST US A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE JUDGE SAID.
BUT UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES OUT, ESPECIALLY COMING OFF OF, UH, A YEAR WITH FURLOUGH DAYS AND EVERYTHING, THIS IS NOT ONLY EMPLOYEES, BUT IT ALSO TAKES CARE OF THEIR FAMILY.
UH, SO I CAN SEE IT AS A, A GOOD BENEFIT TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, IF NOTHING ELSE, A WAY TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE TO OUR COUNTY.
AND IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I MISSED, JOHN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE CONTRACT WITH THEM.
IT WOULD BE HANDLED DURING THEIR STANDARD SIGN UP THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY, UH, GOING ON, UH, FOR EMPLOYEES THAT WISH TO DO THAT, THE COUNTY WOULD PAY THE, THE MONEY.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, NOT ONLY THE EMPLOYEE BUT THE UH, UH, FAMILY MEMBER? IT DEPENDS ON THE FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING COVERS THE HOUSEHOLD, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN THE HOUSEHOLD AND ANY CHILDREN UP TO 25 IF THEY'RE IN COLLEGE, 21 IF THEY'RE NOT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD A, ONE OF MY EMPLOYEE'S WIFE GOT REALLY TERRIBLY SICK AND THEY CALLED AN AMBULANCE TO COME PICK HER UP AND TAKE HER TO DALLAS.
AND I THINK THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE COVERED UNDER SOME KIND OF COST OF THAT $10 A WEEK CHARGE.
ANYWAY, HE GOT A BILL FOR 500 BUCKS AND YOU KNOW, HE WORKS FOR ME.
HE SAID I'LL JUST HAVE TO GO TO PRISON NOW BECAUSE I CAN'T PAY HIM.
YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD ELIMINATE, THEY'LL COVER IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE INSURANCE, IT'LL COVER THE REST.
I THINK WHAT PEOPLE KNOW INSURANCE AND IT SAYS IN THAT LETTER BECAUSE THEY'LL GET THE 60% RATE.
EXCUSE ME, JUDGE SAYS HERE IT, YOUR FLAT AREA IS LIMITED.
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WHAT'S THE LIMITS ON YOUR FLAT AREA? WELL, WHAT, WHAT THAT'S MEANING IS, LIKE HE WAS SAYING, IF YOU'RE ON A, THE FAR SOUTHERN CORNER, YOU PROBABLY GET EAST TEXAS HELICOPTER.IF YOU'RE IN THE OTHER CORNER, YOU MAKE AN AIR EVAC OR YOU CAN'T MAKE IT.
PHI WHAT? EAST TEXAS? IF IT'S EAST TEXAS HELICOPTER YOU'RE COVERED.
BUT EAST TEXAS WON'T COVER THE OTHER HELICOPTERS AND THE WAY THE DISPATCH HELICOPTERS, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE'S CLOSEST AND GET THERE FIRST.
WELL IF YOU'RE, IF I, IF WE SIGN UP THIS AND I BELONG TO YOURS AND I HAVE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT AND SOMEBODY ELSE COMES AND PICKS ME UP AND FLIES ME TO DALLAS, IT DOESN'T HELP ME ANY AT ALL.
IT'S NOT 2030 GRAND NOT IN CORRECT.
NOT AT THE OTHER HELICOPTER SERVICE.
SO IT'S JUST THAT THAT IS REALLY A PROBLEM.
WHOEVER GETS THERE FOR IT SAYS ALSO GROUND SERVICE, BUT THE GROUND SERVICE USE GROUND.
MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE GROUND.
AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING, ESPECIALLY IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY, UM, DEPENDING THE TIME OF DAY, WE CAN GET AN AMBULANCE FROM HERE TO BROWN SERVICE TO DALLAS PRETTY FAST.
WHEN YOU TAKE AN CONSIDERATION OF HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO FLY HELICOPTER IN LAND, TAKE OFF TO HOSPITAL LAND, UNLOAD, UM, OUR MEDICS ARE TRAINED TO TAKE ALL INTO CONSIDERATION.
NOW THERE ARE DEFINITELY TIMES WE'LL NEED A HELICOPTER WHEN HAVE MULTIPLE PATIENTS IN TRAFFIC, THE MASS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF CALLS ARE GONNA BE GROUND.
BUT EVEN ON THE GROUND SERVICE, IF SOMEONE ELSE PICKS ME UP AND I BELONG TO, NO ONE ELSE WOULD PICK YOU UP IN COFFEE CAP.
YOU'LL BE THE ONLY ONE THAT WE WERE SOLE PROVIDER WITH COFFEE.
YEAH, BUT THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF HIS PROBLEM.
WELL ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE AIR MEDICAL IS THEY'RE NOT REGULATED BY THE STATE.
LIKE GROUND AMBULANCES ON, UH, AIR AMBULANCE SERVICES CAN SELL MEMBERSHIPS ANYWHERE THEY WANT TO AT ANY TIME.
SO CARELY CAN COME IN, SOMEBODY OUT OF HOUSTON OR FLORIDA CAN COME IN AND SELL MEMBERSHIPS EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A HELICOPTER OUT HERE.
HAVE WE EXPANDED OR $10 WITH CARELY YET? NO.
THERE A POSSIBILITY WE COULD TAKE THAT $10 THAT WE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR VERSUS PUT ON THIS? WE'VE ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK SIGNED A CONTRACT UNTIL OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IN DECEMBER I THINK WE, WE'VE HAD EXPIRED.
SO THAT WOULD REDUCE THIS COST IF WE ALLOCATE THAT THIS IS COST $20 PER FAMILY, FAMILY BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES AREN'T COVERED, BASICALLY THIS IS GONNA BE JUST PANEL, RIGHT? YES.
WHAT ABOUT, WOULD IT BE FAIR TO HAVE THE EMPLOYEES PAY PART OF THAT? THAT'S YOUR CALL AND THIS WILL TAKE EFFECT WHEN NEXT ENROLLMENT? THE ENROLLMENT'S RIGHT NOW? SOON.
OH, THE ENROLLMENT'S GOING ON NOW? YES.
HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE PLACE? UM, USUALLY I THINK IT'S THE MONTH FOR OCTOBER, BUT I KNOW FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY WE SAID WE WERE GONNA EXTEND A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE RECENT CONTRACT CHANGES.
I I'M TRIED TO FIND OUT HOW LONG WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
I TC HAD SAID THROUGH JANUARY, SO THAT'S RIGHT.
WE, WE WERE MAKING EXCEPTION FOR KAMAN COUNTY ALREADY BECAUSE OF THE RECENT CONTRACT ADJUSTMENTS.
WHAT ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT'S AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY THAT'S ALREADY PAID THE $60 MEMBERSHIP FEE? I BELIEVE I WAS TOLD WE WOULD, WE REIMBURSED THEIR, THE 30 BUCKS DIFFERENCE.
UH, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE TO ME IT WOULD BETTER UTILIZATION.
UH, THEY'RE ALREADY OUR CARRIER.
UH, IF IF THE PATIENT'S IN THE HOSPITALS AND THEY DEEM YOU NEED TO BE CARE FLIGHTED, MOST OF THE TIME, LIKE AT TUR WE GET LIKE CARE FLIGHT OR SOMETHING.
SO THOSE PA PATIENTS WOULDN'T BE COVERED.
N NOT CAREF FLIGHT FLIES, THEY WOULD NOT BE COVERED.
BUT IF THEY WERE TO BE TRANSPORTED BY GROUND, WHICH A LOT OF TIMES IT WILL BE, IT WOULD BE COVERED.
BUT A LOT OF TIMES THE DOCTOR WILL MAKE THAT DECISION WHETHER YOU CAN GO BY GROUND OR BE YOU NEED TO GO BY ERROR.
THE HOSPITALS HAVE CONTRACTS SEPARATE ON THEIR OWN WITH DIFFERENT AREAS AND DEPENDING ON THE TIME WHEN WE'RE TALKING SCENE TIME VERSUS HOSPITALS, A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE IN HOW CRITICAL IT'S TO GET A HELICOPTER RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMING FROM TARRELL, I DUNNO IF THE RESPONSE TIME IS EXACTLY, THEY COULD PROBABLY CALL THE EAST TEXAS HELICOPTER.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY WORK THE HOSPITAL.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTIONS.
OTHER, I MEAN IT IT'S, IT'S STILL, UH, THE, THE THING THAT I HAVE IS, IT'S, IT'S STILL A DEAL WHERE YOU SIGN UP AND YOU GET, UH, LET'S SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET AIR AMBULANCE SERVICE.
I REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT A, THAT THAT'S NOT A FREQUENT DEAL.
BUT I, IT'S HAPPENED TO TWO EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN MY PRECINCT, UH, CHILDREN IN THEIR FAMILY HAVE A SERIOUS CAR ACCIDENT.
THEY THINK THEY'RE COVERED GOING TO GET A $10, UH, AIR AMBULANCE
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RIDE TO DALLAS OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THEY GET A BILL FOR 25 GRAND.JUST, I MEAN THERE, THERE'S NO WAY TO ADDRESS IT, I DON'T SUPPOSE IS THERE YOU'RE THE MAN, YOU'RE THE MAN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT
I, WE'LL JUST, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
THERE'S NO WAY FOR EAST TEXAS TO, TO TAKE ON ALL OF THE OTHER HELICOPTERS CONTRACTS.
SO WE JUST TAKE ON PHI CAREF, FLIGHT AIR EVAC.
UH, THERE'S NO, EVEN, EVEN CAREF FLIGHT WON'T DO THAT EITHER.
THEY'RE GONNA, SO THEIR HELICOPTER COME LAND.
IF AIR EVAC COMES LAND CARELY IS NOT GONNA PAY THAT BILL EITHER.
NONE OF THE COMPANIES, ALL THEIR MEMBERSHIPS ARE FOR THEIR SERVICE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ADDRESS THAT.
IF, IF IT'S SERIOUS ENOUGH WITH THAT, SEND THE HELICOPTER AFTER ME.
YEAH, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU NOT GONNA STAY AWAY UNTIL THAT'S WHAT ONE OF MY SAID ALSO, SHE WORKS FOR THE COUNTY AND THEN THEY SENT HER BILL FOR 20 28 5 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN SHE AIN'T GOT 28 5 LATER AROUND TO PAY THAT BILL.
PROBABLY NEED TO SEND SOME NOTICE OUT TO EMPLOYEES JUST SAYING BE WHAT COVERED BY THAT.
I'M LIKE, RAY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SAY NO I'M NOT.
WELL, AND I THINK WE COULD WITH, IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, I THINK WE'RE CONSCIOUS THESE MEDICAL CENTER AND HAVE THAT AS PART OF SIGNUP THING AND IT'S, I MEAN THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE EFFORT TO DO BECAUSE WE'VE GOT 500 EMPLOYEES.
AND I GUESS THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE INCLUDE PARKING EMPLOYEES OR JUST FULL.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
MY, MY INITIAL UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM WAS PROBABLY WE JUST DO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WASN'T YOU HAVE 34 PART-TIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT WORK ONCE EVERY SIX MAYBE JUST FULLTIME EMPLOYEE.
BUT THEY COULD BUY THIS ON THEIR OWN.
THEY COULD, COULD THEY NOT? OR JUST EMPLOYEES? OR COULD A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE BUY THIS ON THEIR OWN? YES, THEY THEY COULD.
UM, THIS IS THIS, RIGHT? WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE IS A 50% OFF.
UM, COULD PRIVATE CITIZENS BUY THAT? CAN BUY ANYBODY COULD.
IT'S HIGHLY ENCOURAGED FOR ALL CITIZENS SUSPEND THIS CONTRACT.
WOULD THE RATES BE THE $30 UHUH $60 FOR IF YOU BUY GO CITIZEN, THIS IS SOMETHING THEY DO FOR A BUT THEN WHEN YOU, THEN WHEN YOU RENEW IT, IT'S 50.
IS IT UHHUH WHEN YOU RENEW IT THE NEXT YEAR IT'S ONLY 50.
IT'S STILL $5 LESS THAN FIVE A MONTH.
WOULD WE WANT TO PAY THE WHOLE $20 TO TAKE A BUDGET AMENDMENT HOUSE? WE TAKE, DO WE WANNA DO THE $20 ADDITIONAL ON THAT OR WE WANT TO HAVE THE EMPLOYEE PAY $10.
THAT 20 OR $5 OR FIVE? THAT'S UP Y'ALL 35 SIR, THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
BUT IT WILL TAKE A BUDGET THEN WILL IT NOT? UH, WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHANCE WE CAN FIND A LINE ITEM TRANSFER BUT DO THAT TO DO IT.
YEAH, I THINK WE JUST PAID THE WHOLE THING.
DID WE HAVE A MOTION? ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE DO THAT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
COMMISSIONER ROW MAKES A MOTION.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL NEED TO GET STARTED UP HERE.
I'M SURE OUR FOLKS AND, UH, WHOEVER WINDS UP DOING THIS WILL BE THRILLED ABOUT DOING IT, BUT IT IS A GOOD, IT IS A GOOD, UH, GOOD.
EVERYBODY WILL HAVE TO SIGN UP TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS YEAH.
BUT IT IS, IT IS A GOOD, IT IS A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD BENEFIT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
DON'T YOU, DON'T YOU OFFER TO I I'LL WORK WITH THEM.
I THINK, WELL WE, WE, WE'VE NOT SIGNED THE CONTRACT.
I THINK THE CITY OF SIGNED CONTRACT LAST YEAR.
IT'S ACTUALLY GROUND EXCUSE BUT IT'S SO LIMITED IN USE.
I MEAN MOST THE PEOPLE WE HAD USED LAST YEAR OR TWO HERE, RETIREES.
PARDON? IT APPLIES TO RETIREES AS WELL.
UH, WOULD IT APPLY TO RETIREES OR, UH,
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DIDN'T I DON'T RETIRING? WELL, YOU BE, I CHECK WITH YOUR COMPANY AND SEE IF IT'S, WE WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD PAY IT, BUT IT COULD PERHAPS IF THEY WANT.ALRIGHT, THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
THANK ITEM NUMBER 20 IS, I'M SORRY, NUMBER 21.
I KNOW WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK.
BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THESE BEFORE WE ONE AND 22 ARE ALL THE SAME, AREN'T, YEAH, PRETTY CLOSE.
AND UH, JC YOU WANT TO, I WON'T READ THROUGH THOSE.
THIS IS, UH, WHERE JC HAS SOME ROCK CRUSHING GOING ON DOWN IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE, HIS PRECINCT.
AND UH, THIS IS WHERE TRENCHING MATERIALS HAS COME FORWARD AND SAID THEY WILL DO SOME, UH, UH, WORK FOR US.
YOU WANT TO TALK TO US A BIT THAT THEN YEAH.
UM, TALKED WITH, UH, MR. HALLMARK.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE SIGNED UP TO TALK.
I THINK WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR IS JUST THE APPROVAL FROM THE COUNTY TO SAY THAT HE CAN WORK.
I'M PRETTY SURE HE GOING THIS OUT AND UH, I THINK I GAVE YOU A PACKAGE AND I GAVE UH, JOHN A PACKAGE.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA WORK THIS TO T STANDARD INSTEAD OF, SO I'M THINKING IF HE DOES IT TO T STANDARD IT HAS BE PROBABILITY THAN THE COUNTY STANDARDS.
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT COMING INTO THE BOAT, BUT, UH, I, I'LL LET HIM KIND OF EXPLAIN IT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS HIS ENTRY WAVE GOING CONCRETE AND ALSO CONCRETE PART OF THREE 14 WHERE THEY COME OUT WHERE COME OUT AND OVERLAY
I DID HE DO THAT OVER ON YOUR HONOR, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND CITIZENS AS WELL.
BUT THE TRAINING MATERIALS OPERATES A FACILITY ON THREE 14.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 815 FOOT FROM HIGHWAY 80.
AND UH, IT'S A CHIP SILL WITH, UH, WITH THE UNDERLYING BASE.
AND UH, WE, WE ANTICIPATE OVER, OVER TIME THAT, UH, THAT THAT ROAD WOULD, UH, DETERIORATE DUE TO THE, UH, DUE TO HAUL TRUCKS, UM, THE WEIGHT OF THE TRUCKS AND UH, AND JUST, JUST CONTINUE.
WE ANTICIPATE OPERATING AT THAT FACILITY FOR APPROXIMATELY FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.
AND UH, WHAT WE HAD TALKED TO, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON ABOUT IS, UH, IS OUR ONGOING INTEREST TO MAINTAIN THAT FOR, FOR OUR BENEFIT FROM THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS AND UH, AND TO BE A BASICALLY TO CORPORATE NEIGHBOR.
AND UH, AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE HAD TALKED TO, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON ROUTE WAS, UH, PUTTING DOWN, UH, AN ASPHALT, DOING ANY REPAIRS ON, ON THAT SECTION THAT THAT'S CURRENTLY NECESSARY.
AND THEN PUTTING A, UH, ASPHALT OVERLAY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT TWO INCHES OR SO FOR THIS YEAR.
AND DEPENDING ON THE WEAR AND TEAR, PROBABLY DO ANOTHER TWO INCHES NEXT YEAR.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE US FOUR INCHES OF ASPHALT WITH, UH, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS PROBABLY ABOUT NINE INCHES OF, OF UNDERLAY ALREADY.
PRE ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A, A TURN AREA THAT, UH, COMES OUT OF, OUT OF OUR PROPERTY ONTO THE COUNTY ROAD THAT'S GOING TO EXPERIENCE A, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF REAR TEAR THAN JUST THE WHITE.
UM, AND THAT'S FROM THE RADIUS OF THE TURNING.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THERE IS TO LOOK AT PUTTING IN
UM, AND SO WHAT, WHAT I'VE TALKED TO COMMISSIONER JACKSON ABOUT IS, IS THE FACT THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME, SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME DESIGNS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT, UH, WHAT WE WOULD WANT FROM Y'ALL IS, UH, FOR Y'ALL'S EITHER I GUESS AGREEMENT FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER THESE DESIGNS OR FOR Y'ALL TO TELL US, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT THE COUNTY STANDARD IS IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, BUT ALSO FOR A CONTRACTOR FOR INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY KIND OF, ANY KIND OF REQUIREMENTS THAT Y'ALL WOULD HAVE FOR UM, UH, SAY BONDING, THAT SORT OF THING.
'CAUSE WE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME IN AND DO SOMETHING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET WHAT Y'ALL'S CRITERIA AND APPROVAL IS.
AND SO, UM, AND WHAT YOU FIND ENGINEERING STUDY ON THAT ALSO.
WELL WE, WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF AN ENGINE
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ENGINEERING STUDY.WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS, IS TO TAKE, UM, TAKE THE, THE COUNTY'S EXISTING STANDARDS, WHICH I WOULD TYPICALLY DO, WHICH IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS TO PUT DOWN TWO INCHES OF, UH, OF ADDITIONAL OVERLAY PREPARED AND PUT DOWN TWO INCHES OF ASPHALT OVERLAY.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE CONCRETE, UM, PORTION, WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING WAS A WAS AN EIGHT INCH, UH, 3000 PSI WITH, UH, WITH NUMBER FOUR REBAR ON 18 INCH SENSORS, WHICH IS A, WHICH IS A VERY TYPICAL, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE WITH REINFORCEMENT FOR WHAT, FOR WHAT WE USE, UM, AND WHAT WE ENGINEER TYPICALLY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE PROPOSED TO, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WOULD BE AN ATTORNEY RADIUS GOING IN THERE.
THAT'S WHERE, AND PROB WE'LL PROBABLY ACTUALLY WIDE IT EXTEND IT A LITTLE BIT FROM EXISTING IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD TURN RATES.
UM, FOR THE, FOR THE 18 PERSON COMING IN, HOW WIDE WOULD IT BE? IT WOULD BE THE EXISTING WIDTH IN TERMS OF THE ASPHALT OF THE, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TURNING, THE TURNING NOW THE TURNING, UM, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT THE TRUCKS ARE.
PROBABLY ANOTHER, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT ANOTHER THREE FOOT ON, ON THE WEST SIDE IS DAM THE ROAD IS LIKE, UH, UH, I THINK IT'S 2018.
I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, JASON, WE HAD ONE THERE ON 3 0 5 AND 2, 2 0 5 I GUESS, OR 1 48 AND WHERE THEY CAME OUT AND GOT OFF OF THE ROAD ON THE OTHER SIDE.
RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, IT WAS A REAL MESS THERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THE COUNTER RIGHT NOW THAT STOP IT FOR THE DESIGN PART.
WOULD IT BE FAIR TO YOUR GUIDE TO DESIGN IT AND THEN OUR ENGINEER TO APPROVE THAT DESIGN AND DON'T THINK THE ENGINEERING OVERVIEW OF THAT, I GUESS WHEN YOU SAY WHAT I'M SAYING, IF I GOT A GUY GONNA COME OUT THERE AND GO, UH, IF HE'S GONNA DESIGN IT, HE'S GONNA DESIGN THE WAY HE WANTS IT TO BE.
WE NEED TO OVERSIGHT BY SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER AND WHAT YOU DESCRIBE IS GONNA WORK, BUT WE NEED SOME OVERSIGHT FROM SOMEBODY BESIDES I CAN I, I TELL YOU WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE, UH, WE CAN DO AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT'S WHAT'S EXISTING.
UM, PERHAPS SHE'S HELP WITH CORE IT, UM, SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AND THEN BASED ON THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A, UH, A DESIGN, UM, AND, AND WE'LL HAVE AN ENGINEER, UH, REVIEW IT AND SIGN IT AND SEAL IT.
UM, AS LONG AS THERE'S, THERE'S SOME SORT OF CONDITION IN THERE THAT ALLOWS US FOR, UM, IN OTHER WORDS SAY A TEX ROAD IS DESIGNED FOR A 20 YEAR LIFE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR LIFE FOR WHAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO EXCEED THAT AND ALLOW FOR THE GENERAL, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC.
IF WE START TRYING TO DESIGN IT FOR 20 YEAR LIFE, LIFE FOR THAT KIND OF THING.
WE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, 14, 18 INCHES OF CONCRETE WITH TWO, TWO MATS.
BUT, BUT WHAT OUR COMMITMENT HAS BEEN TO, UH, TO COMMISSIONER JACKSON AND THE CITIZENS OF COFFMAN IS THAT IS IT.
IF AT ANY POINT THAT ROAD BEGINS TO DETERIORATE, THEN WE PAY THE COST TO BRING IT BACK UP TO STOP WAY BEYOND.
AT ANY RATE, THE ROAD WOULD BE BETTER THAN IT'S A CHIP SEAL ROAD.
IT'S GOING BE BETTER AND IT'S GONNA LAST A LOT LONGER THAN I'LL BE WORKING ON THE OTHER PART THAT ROAD LONG TIME BEFORE I WORK ON THE PART.
NOW I LEMME BE SURE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN YOUR COUNTY IS NOT ANY, YOUR PRECINCT IS NOT GOING TO WANT AN ASPHALT ROAD OUT THERE.
WELL THEY HAVE TO BE, THEY HAD TO BE WORKING NOT BE ON THEIR ROAD BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS TRINITY IS NO COST TO THE COUNTY.
AND AND MAY I, I DUNNO IF YOU'VE MENTIONED IT, BUT ALSO IN THE INITIAL AGREEMENT IT HAS THE ABILITY OF THE COUNTY TO REVIEW AND TO, TO VETO, UH, PLANS OR WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ALREADY.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THAT UNDERSTAND.
SO, SO I MEAN THE, THE MORE SPECIFIC THINGS, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S THAT KIND OF LURKING IN THE BACKGROUND.
AND SO WE, WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT, THAT Y'ALL WOULD NOT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL WOULD FIND EXPENSES OR, OR I'VE GOT SOME EXPERIENCE IN THAT IN WORK IN PRECINCT TOO, WHEN THERE WERE THE OWNER DESIGNED IT THE WAY HE WANTED TO BE DESIGNED AND 20 YEARS LATER, WHICH IT'S BEEN ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW, I CAN SURE YOU'ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY HERE NEXT YEAR OR TWO GO IN THERE AND TEARING OUT A LOT CONCRETE AND REPLACEMENT.
SO IT'S NOT JUST WHAT'S GONNA BE,
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IT'S GONNA BE DOWN THE ROAD SOMEWHERE.IT'S GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS EXPENSE OVER THERE.
AND WHO, WHO PREPARED THE PLANS THAT, THAT YOU HANDED ME? UH, THAT ONE WAS, THAT ONE WAS, UH, I, I PREPARED THE SPECIFICATIONS AND PART OF THE, I'M PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THE ENGINEERS GIVEN THE JUDGE AND ALSO TO JOHN AND UH, IF THE ENGINEERS HAVE WORKED ON THAT, BUT STILL EVERYTHING STILL COME BACK TO US FOR, I THINK HE WAS JUST ONE THIS TO SAY.
I APPRECIATE, UH, TRINITY COMING FORTH FORWARD TO DO THIS.
IT'S A GOOD UH, GOOD IS AND CERTAINLY IT WILL HELP OUR FOLKS DOWN THERE THAT AREN'T TOO HAPPY WITH YOU GUYS BEING THERE, BUT THIS IS A GOOD GESTURE ON YOUR ALRIGHTY.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IF, UH, ANYBODY WELL WE NEED TO, YEAH, AND THEN WE HAVE ADAM, YOU WANNA DO BOTH OF THE SAME? WELL WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO A SEPARATE ONE.
JUST, UH, UH, SO OH, THEY ARE, WELL THEY'RE A LITTLE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
THE APPROVAL TO UH, CONTINUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION WORK, WORK ON UH,
SO, SO SO YOU WERE ASKING US TO, THE MOTION IS FOR, FOR TRAINING MATERIALS TO ENDEAVOR TO OBTAIN A SET OF ENGINEERING COMPLAINTS AND SPECIFICATIONS.
I BELIEVE THAT WHAT RIGHT YOU FELT LIKE WOULD NEEDED TO WELL THE PHONE, THAT PRESIDENT PART YOU TALKING ABOUT EIGHT INCHES, INCHES CONCRETE NUMBER FOUR 16 IN JOHN THAT TRUCKS, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT EXPANSION, JOINT CONTRACTION JOINTS? I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO THERE.
IT'S JUST COMING OUT AS A PLANT TURNING THE REST GONNA BE ASPHALT TURNING WAVE.
YEAH, WELL YOU, WHERE YOU TURNING THE CAND, WHICH IS A YEAH, MORE SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE A 45 FOOT, UM, ENTRY AND SO WE WERE PLANNING ON UM, POUR CONCRETE 10 FOOT BEYOND THAT AND THEN, UH, 15 FOOT TO THE 80 SIDE.
SO TOTAL AREA THAT'S, UH, 70 FOOT IN LENGTH OF CONCRETE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 25 FOOT WIDE.
AND THEN THE APPROACH INTO THE, INTO THE FACILITY, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY STILL BE ON THE COUNTY COUNTY PROPERTY WOULD ACTUALLY EXTEND INTO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY OVER THE EXISTING FOLDER INTO THE PROPERTY.
WHAT WE MIGHT DO IS HAVE MAYBE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON AND COMMISSIONER CLARK REVIEWING THAT PLAN AND ALONG WITH OUR ATTORNEY, UH, AS FAR AS UH, ANY LEGAL, UH, SAFETY ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON AND COMMISSIONER CLARK REVIEWING THE, THE, UH, PLAN AS SUPPOSE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO US HERE.
AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE AS FAR AS THE, THE SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET HURT WHILE Y'ALL ARE DOWN THERE WHEN THEY'RE ENGINEERED.
ARE YOU SIGNING OFF ON IT? THAT PUTS A LONG LOT DONE DOWN ENGINEER.
AS LONG AS LONG AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IS DOING THAT AS OPPOSED TO LET ME GO OUT THERE AND JUST SAY, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO OUT HERE AND THEN YOU COME FIX IT IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN I'M GONE.
WELL, I GUESS IN A WAY TRAINING YOU'LL BE THE ACCEPTING RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT GO DO ALL THE CONTRACT.
THEY GONNA PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, YEAH, THE BALL IS IN THEIR COURT.
YEAH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, AND I'M SURE THEY DO TOO.
WE DO IT IN THE RIGHT WAY AND EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH IT, WHICH AGAIN, I, THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR US AND GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITIZENS IN THAT AREA.
AND I, I THINK FOR TRINITY INDUSTRIES AS WELL, SO.
WELL, I APPRECIATE MR. HALL WORKING WITH YES.
IT'S BEEN A KIND A LONG TIME COMING BUT GETTING, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, WELL DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? OKAY.
SHOULD WE HAVE A SECOND? GET THAT? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS, ARE WE DOING DEPENDENT REVIEW PLAN AS PROPOSED OR DID RAY BACK OFF ON THAT ONE? HE SAID I THINK I, THEY HAVE AN INJURY SIGN OFF AND ENGINEER'S GOING, HIS HIS LICENSE IS ON THE LAST, HE'S NOT, HE IS NOT GOING TO DRAW
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SOMETHING THERE.DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER MAIN SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, THOSE POST.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 22 IS THE, UH, 500 TONS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY ON THE ROAD ITSELF, UH, ON THREE 14.
THE OTHER IS ON THREE 14, BUT IT'S ALSO MOSTLY THE ENTRANCE OF THE CONCRETE PART.
SO WE HAVE A, A MOTION TO UH, ACCEPT.
I MAKE A MOTION BE ACCEPT, UH, 500 TONS OF ROCK.
HOW YOU GONNA PUT 500 TONS OF ROCK ON ASPHALT? WELL, YEAH.
WHAT OTHER PART OF THREE 14 IS ROCK.
WELL, GOING BACK TOWARDS POINT GOING, GOING SOUTH.
I GUESS READ THAT HE SAID, UH, UH, THAT YOU CAN USE FOR THREE 14 BUT NOT EXCLUSIVE USE THE OTHER QUALITY CAN.
YEAH, I, I WANNA MAKE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ONE THING IS CLEAR THAT WE HAD NO WAY OR ASKING FOR, UH, TRUCKS TO GO SOUTH DOWN THREE 14.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS ABOUT WHATSOEVER.
THEY STILL HAVE TO DRIVE, WE STILL HAVE THE SIGNS OF IT.
YEAH, THE SIGNS ARE STILL UP AND, AND WHEN, WHEN WE FIND OUT THAT PEOPLE HAVE TRUCK DRIVERS HAVE WE, WE TELL 'EM THAT THE NEXT TIME IT HAPPENS THEY WILL NOT BE, UH, ALLOWED TO BE LOADED.
SO PLUS I THINK WE HAVE A LICENSE AND WHITE PERSON THAT'S SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF TIME DOWN THERE.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MAN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO ONE MORE ITEM, DISCUSS AND ACT ON ACCEPTING THE ANNUAL, UH, ROAD REPORT FROM HOFFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.
UH, THIS SHOULD BE WE QUICK ON THE ROAD.
I JUST THOUGHT I'D DO MINE, JERRY.
ANYWAY, THIS SHOULD, THIS ENTAILS THE NEW, THIS ENTAILS THE STUFF THAT'S GONNA TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1ST.
SO THIS ENTAILS THE ONES I TOOK OVER FROM RAY, HOPEFULLY AND THE ONES I GAVE UP FOR JAYZ.
SO THE NEW THE NEW PRECINCT FOUNDRIES IN FOLLOW.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSIONER? RALPH? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO UH, ACCEPT UH, THE ANNUAL ROAD REPORT FOR PRECINCT ONE? I'LL MAKE THAT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER MAY 2ND THAT MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE BREAK BEFORE WE COME BACK.
UH, I'M SORRY TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON EXITING BREAK MEETING AND ENTERING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
COMMISSIONER WELL, AND SECOND.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO DOWN TO ITEM 25.
IT'S ANNOUNCED THAT THERE WAS NO ACTION, UH, TAKEN DURING ANY, UH, THING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN ACT IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ITEM NUMBER 27 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON LIGHT ITEM TRANSFERS.
I REGRET TO INFORM YOU WE DON'T HAVE ANY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN FROM THERE.
HAVE YOU GOT ANY BILLS? YES SIR.
ITEM NUMBER 28 DISCUSSED AND ACT ON THE BILL FOR PAYMENT.
NO, MY GOOD NEWS DIDN'T LAST VERY LONG AGO.
JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY THAT THE GENTLEMAN, UH, FROM THE ENERGY COMPANY GONNA BE SET UP IN MY OFFICE IN THE MORNING BETWEEN 10.
THAT'S OH, I SAW I AND IT'S GONNA AFFECT EVERYBODY'S PRECINCT BUT I THINK EXCEPT I THINK YOU PROBABLY OUGHT TO BE THERE SINCE YOU WHAT TIME IS THAT BRUCE? BETWEEN 10 AT 11.
SO WE DON'T HAVE MORE THAN TWO OF US IN THERE AT ONE TIME.
I STEP OUTTA MY OFFICE WHENEVER
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I DIDN'T GET ONE EITHER.YES, I WELL IT'S JUST GONNA BE IN MY OFFICE.
THERE BE NO SNACKS PROVIDED I'M NOT NO.
IF THERE'S NO TOOTSIE ROLLS INVOLVED IN I'M ON MY WELLNESS PROGRAM.
ARE YOU MY CIGARETTES IN AND I'M MY IN HALF.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE NEBRASKA.
YEAH, THEY LIKE GOING THROUGH SOME DOLLAR DOLLAR FARM.
HOW LONG IT TAKE? GET THE RIGHT OF ALL THAT.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY CANDY LEFT 'CAUSE IT'S HALLOWEEN WASN'T BUYING, BUYING, BUYING ALL THE CANDY.
THEY'RE HAVING A BIG HALLOWEEN THING IN 40 AND THEY'RE EXPECTING OVER 5,000 KIDS.
SEE TWO I I WONDER WHERE THE MONEY WENT.
I SAID WE WOULD BUT ALL I SAY IS ABOUT 20 BUCKS.
OH NO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT QUITE BAD THOUGH.
I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD TO IT IN A C SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE PAID HALF OF THREE LITTLE THINGS FOR ONE $7 AND 1 58 OR ONE FOR FOUR.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS A BILL FOR LIKE SEVEN, EIGHT, $900.
YOU HAD A WHOLE TOTAL WAS WAS UH, WHO DID IT? WHO? SEE IF I CAN FIND IT WASN'T BAIN WAS IT? NO, NO IT WASN'T.
BUT I, WE SENT, WE SENT THE, I THOUGHT WE FAX ALL THAT OVER TOO BECAUSE I WONDER IF CAROL, Y'ALL GOT A BETTER SCORE ON THE FOOTBALL.
MM-HMM
YEAH, I READ THAT IN THE PAPER SURVEY.
AT HALF, AT HALF TO HALF TIME.
HE PLAYED THE WHOLE IS THE 16? YEAH, MY GRANDSON TOOK WHAT'S THE, THE SCORE OF NINE AT HALFTIME.
I THINK THEY RAN EIGHT INTERCEPTED PAST WRONG 46 POINT RULE.
I DON'T THINK SHE'S DONE THAT OR AFTER THAT HALF.
ANYTIME AFTER THAT YOU HIT BY 45.
I THINK SHE JUST PICKED UP THE WRONG NINE AND THE WERE REALLY TRYING TO HELP FILL YOU.
YOU HADN'T SIT IT DOWN UNTIL PRECINCT ONE YET.
WELL WE WERE GOING BANK IS ACTUALLY ONCE THEY MAY HAVE, I DUNNO THEY COULD, THEY COULD THEY TEAR DOWN IF YOU, BUT YOU COULD TELL'S GOT COACHES STOP THE CLOCK.
LET'S GET THIS, LET'S GET THIS OVER CLOCK.
HE GOT SOME DEALS FROM FIRST HALF QUARTER.
YEAH, BECAUSE WHAT HE SIGNED OFF LET'S, YEAH.
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LOOK ON THAT LAST PAGE, HOW'S GOT SOME KIND OF, IF YOU SEE A THERE FOR HAL JOHN FOR $82,000 OR WHATEVER.SEE I SAYING GOING JOHNNY ALL.
YEAH, JOHNNY IS THE BIG ARE YOU GOING, IS THAT MOSTLY THAT STUFF GEORGE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE PROGRAM, IS THAT MOSTLY YOURS? YES.
PROCESS FROM NOW ON, WOULD YOU ASK, TELL GEORGE JUST TO ASK YOU TO COME IN AND ASK FOR IT.
WE'LL VOTE WE WON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO FOUR HOURS OF STUFF.
I THOUGHT YOU WAS RIGHT ON TOP OF IT.
YOU DID GET, YOU DID GET AN ANSWER BACK WHEN SAID HOW MUCH GOING COST? NO, HE GOT COME CLOSER THAN THE QUESTION I TOGETHER ONE COMMITTED.
BUT HE ASKED HIM WHAT'S THAT GONNA COST ABOUT 30 MINUTES LATER SOMEBODY SAID, JERRY DID YOU EVER TELL ME HOW MUCH THEY, OKAY, ALRIGHT WELL YOU FAX, YOU FAX IT AND YOU FAX.
IT HELPS WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IT.
ARE WE CREATING PROCLAMATION OR DID WE GET THE IT SHOULD BE A BIGGER, IS THERE AN ATTACHMENT TO THIS OR IS THERE NOT? RIGHT.
WELL YOU HAD UP TO JUST TIM SEND IT OVER TO CAROL CHIEF.
DID YOU GO BY THAT UH, CALL STATE BUILDING AND SEE ALL OF THAT STUFF? NO, WE DIDN'T MAKE IT GOING.
EVERYBODY SAID THAT WAS REALLY NEAT.
YEAH, I ALREADY LAID OUT BEFORE WE GOT THERE
THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T GO THAT PLACE.
AND I GREW UP ABOUT THREE BLOCKS FROM MARYLAND.
I REALLY ALWAYS LIKE TO GO ON FOURTH AVENUE CLOSE.
THAT'S WHAT SUPPOSED TO GET IS PONY DOG SOME JACK.
THEY STILL GIVE THEM TO YOU IN THOSE LITTLE CLUB THING AND AND ONCE YOU GET THROUGH YOU'LL HAVE SO MUCH GREASE ON YOUR HAND YOU'LL HAVE BUT IT'S HAD A FRY.
I DIDN'T HAVE FRY BY YOUR HONOR.
AND HOW I HEAR IT'S YOUR 30TH ANNIVERSARY TODAY.
AND YOU'RE SO HARD TO PUT UP SIR.
YOU TURNED I TWO DONE IT, HADN'T I ALREADY DONE? YEAH, YOU REALLY DUNNO.
HEY I TOLD YOUR STEAKS IT LOOKED PRETTY GOOD.
SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD GONE AND THEY WORKED IN THE PLANT AT THE PLAIN VIEW EIGHT HOURS FRIDAY.
SHE SAID THEY KILLED 2,500 COWS HOURS RUNNING THREE SHIFT.
SAID THAT THOSE BIG CALVES ARE COMING OUT, THOSE FEED LOTS, SOME STUFF THERE.
SHE SAID BOY THERE'S SOME REALLY TREMENDOUS, I FORGET WHAT SHE CALL IT.
THAT'S THE BEST ISN'T IT? YEAH.
SAID THE RIB EYE ON YOU HAMILTON.
THAT'S THE GUY THAT TOOK THAT PECAN TREE OUT FOR ME THAT I'M SHORTY GOT FIRED OVER.
I GOTTA PUT A BOARD IN A JAR IT UP.
I THOUGHT I SHOWED YOU A PICTURE.
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BIG THAT AND SHORTY CUT TWO OF 'EM DOWN ON THIS SIDE.WELL IT MADE THE HOMEOWNER THINK THAT EVERYTHING WAS LEANING TOWARDS HIS HOUSE AND HE JUST THREW A FIT AND HIS LAWYER CALLED ME AND ALL THAT STUFF AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD GET OUT OF IT IS TAKE THAT S MR. LONG'S MEETING.
WHAT TIME MARCH? WHAT TIME? SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE JERRY THE AUDITOR GOT ASKED HIM FOR SPENDING MONEY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
IT WASN'T ON, IT WAS ON COUNTY RIGHTAWAY.
WHAT THAT TREE THAT WAS SITTING IN HIS HOUSE? NO, IT WAS ON COUNTY
AND HE SAID, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT MY PROPERTY LET GO FROM RIGHT HERE TO RIGHT THERE.
AND HE SURE ENOUGH HE WENT OVER AND KEEP HIS FOOT IN THE GROUND AND THAT COVERED TWO STEEL STYLES ABOUT THAT BIG.
SO WENT AND GOT MR. KNOW ALL ROGER AND I SAID ROGER, WHERE'S THE KENNEDY DRIVEWAY STARTING? HE SAID RIGHT THERE WHERE HE
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING JUST ASK HIM.
HE'S THE GUY KNOW I BE, HE CAN TAKE OVER THAT BEDROOM LANE IF YOU SHOW WHAT BRANDON THE SHOW.
BRANDON FORDS THE SHOW MORNING.
BUT GARY, I GOT, I I KNEW, I KNEW UH, TRINITY WAS SITTING IN JUST WAITING ON HER.
SAID YOU KNOW, GET THIS, WE DON'T HAVE NO STANDARD.
NO WE DON'T HAVE NO STANDARDS.
SO DON'T, I DON'T NEED TO DO THIS
TOMMY SAID HE'S GONNA COME HELP ME BRAND THE BOARDS.
WHAT AM I DOING? DON'T WANT ME BRAND BOARDS TOMORROW.
AM WE DOING THAT TOMORROW? YES.
WHAT TIME? UH, IT STARTS AT FIVE IN THE MORNING.
HEY SHERIFF, YOU HADN'T YOU? OH YEAH.
I WISH I HAD SOMETHING TO ENTER IN.
I WISH, I THOUGHT YOU MAY HAVE A
SO YOU DO WE GONNA GET THROUGH HERE IN TIME TO DO THAT STUFF AT TWO? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S THAT THAT WHAT IT COST TO.
AND I HAD TO GIVE HIM THE WOOD.
IT COST 1,550 IF I WOULDN'T HAVE GIVE HIM THE PECAN.
WELL THIS, THIS, THIS GUY HERE, HE COULD DO IT.
I WORKED FOR BEFORE I OH WAS IT? YEAH.
WELL I CAUGHT IF I TO GET THOSE, HE WAS TAKING THOSE TREES OFF THOSE HOUSES AT PINNACLE CLUB GO UP LIKE THIS AND GO OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE.
AND THEN AFTER TWO YEARS AFTER THEY GET THE HOUSE FINISHED IT DIE.
THE GUY CALLED HIM, HE'D TAKE THEM DOWN AND NEVER SCRATCH A SHANK.
SO HE'D BEEN DOING IT 30 YEARS.
MINE GOES UP THROUGH SOME ISLAND WIRES OR GETS CLOSE TO THEM.
WELL HE'S GOT WELL THEY COME OUT AND TAKE AND HELP YOU WITH THAT IF IT GETS CLOSE.
YEAH, WITHIN EIGHT FEET THEY'LL THEY'LL TAKE IT BACK TO EIGHT FEET.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING OR SIT JC OR OR RAY.
FELL FROM THAT UH, ENGINEERING EXTENSION SERVICING LIKE HE MIGHT BE.
YEAH, I'VE TALKED TO HIM ONCE.
HE CAME UP AND RODE AROUND THAT DAY ONE TIME WHEN I FIRST CAME UP HERE FOR ABOUT HALF A DAY JUST LOOKING AT ROADS AND TELLING ME STUFF.
HE, YEAH, HE WANTED ME TO START OUT DOING THE SUB SUB BASIS SUBGRADE.
SO I BARELY GOT MONEY TO THE TOP 16.
HE KNOWS OTHER COMMISSIONERS DOESN'T IT? HE KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE OR DO NOT.
WELL I'M TRYING TO GET YOU ALL MY ROAD REPORT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY EVER LOOKS AT THOSE.
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DO YOU THINK ANYBODY EVER LOOKED AT 'EM? I LOOK AT RAY.WHO CARES? I DON'T LOOK AT TWO.
OH Y'ALL DON'T FORGET TO GO BY THAT.
THOSE UNIFORMS PROBABLY THAT JACK'S OFFICE.
THE THERE IN THE BREAK THERE IN THE BREAK.
IF YOU HAVE THINGS YOU WANT US TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE WORKSHOP SESSION, GO AHEAD AND SEND THEM IN AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO FIND A DATE THAT'S CONVENIENT FOR EVERYTHING.
GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER NEXT WEEK, WEEK TO 10 DAYS.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME THINGS OUT THERE THEN RENT.
BUT THOSE UNIFORMS, IT SAVE YOU HALF WHAT YOU PAY IN NOW.
YOU HAD ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT IT OR, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE UH, RUN THROUGH THAT DEAL AND I TELL YOU WHAT, I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE IN THE WORLD WE GONNA GET THE MONEY.
EVEN IF EVERY, IF EVERY CITY THREW IN A HALF MILLION, WE MIGHT GET IT DONE.
WELL I THOUGHT THEY SAID THEY COULD BUILD A BILL.
NO, UH, OUR FRIENDS OVER HERE, DOWN THERE AT SEVEN POINT OR TWO WHEREVER THEY'RE WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD COST A CANDY BILL? I THOUGHT THEY SAID THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO GET A GRANT OR SOMEBODY.
THEY MIGHT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
THEY STILL OWE ABOUT 90,000 THAT BILL DOWN THERE.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO TO PAY ONE PAYMENT.
AND WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD COST TO DO ONE? OH LORD.
UH, YOU KNOW FOR, FOR 5 MILLION FOR THREE? YEAH.
AT LEAST FOR THREE OR 4,000 NOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE M AND O IT'S GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS, YOU KNOW, SO AGAIN, I DUNNO, I JUST REALLY HADN'T KIND OF LET THE BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH ONCE I GOT PUT PENCIL LOOK THROUGH THESE PRETTY GOOD.
TOM SCRUTINIZED THEM VERY CAREFULLY.
I HAVE DID WE? WHO'S T GOT THIS WEEKEND NOW? I, I STAY AUSTIN, MAYBE THEY CAN JUMP ON THE NEXT TWO PRETTY HARD.
DID TEXAS HAVE AN OFF YESTERDAY? I YOU COULDN'T FIND ANY NUMBERS IN, I GUESS I GOT THE SAME PORTION I HAVE ON MY FUEL, GAS AND FUEL.
MM-HMM
BUT WHERE THAT MONEY GO, THEY DON'T GO BACK INTO MY ACCOUNT, RIGHT? NO.
YEAH, BUT THEY DON'T GO BACK IN IN THAT LINE ITEM.
WHAT? NOT FOR EXPENDITURE GOES REVENUE.
I WOULD RATHER, IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN GET IT, GO BACK INTO THAT? NO, I COULD PUT THAT MONEY ON.
I KNOW
WELL BUT WHEN IT GOES IN AS A REVENUE CAN HE SPEND IT ANY WAY HE WANTS TO? WE ONLY SPEND THE WAY IT'S BUDGET.
WE BUDGET THE EXPENDITURE BUT THEN HE'S GETTING EXTRA REVENUE.
YEAH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
COMMISSIONER JACKSON MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MR. LEANING SECONDS.
MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MR. CLARK SECONDS.
SORRY THIS WAS I GUESS JOHN HE WILL GO SIX MINUTES ON HERE.
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NO.WHICH ONE IS IT? THIS FALL ONE HERE.
UM, I SAID HERE I GOT ON THE FREEWAY YESTERDAY.
MM-HMM
IT RUBBER STARTED BURNING AND IT WENT ARE YOU SERIOUS? WHAT ELSE GONNA GO OUT? WHAT'D YOU DO? AND THEN THAT'S GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY.
WELL JOHNNY DOES IT THREE TO 400 AND I NEED SHOPS, WHICH IS ANOTHER 400.
I SAID DANG WHOLE FREAKING CAR COST ME ONE.
I WANTED, I HAVE TIME TO GET YOUR TRUCK.
YOU WOULD THINK, HEY IT'S TIME TO GET A TRUCK.
THEN AGAIN THAT TRUCK'S GONNA COST YOU MORE THAN GETTING THAT FIXED.
I'VE ALREADY PUT NEW TIRES AND FIXED MY WINDOW.
JUST ANOTHER WHAT? LET JOHNNY FIND A NEW JOB AND GET YOURSELF A TRUCK.
WELL SHE TOLD CHELSEA HER DAD, THEY HAVE AN OPENING.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA HANG OUT IN THE HEAT OR NOT.
YOU DOING MISS CEREAL? HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD.
YOU AFTER THE BACK PROBABLY GLAD TO SEE YOU.
YOU GET OR JUST TAKE IT EASY? I GOT SOME STUFF HOUSE BUT I JUST, IT EASY DIDN'T GET OUT IN THE SUN.
I HAD THESE, I HAD THREE OF THE SKIN CANCER.
THESE, YEAH THEY WERE, WHERE WERE THEY? THAT I HAD TWO ON MY NOSE AND THEN I GOT ONE ON MY FINGER.
YOU HAD TO WEAR WHITE STRIPS ALL OVER HER FACE.
I MEAN IT OVER HAD ENOUGH TIME TO S SCAB OVER THAT'S COME OFF.
HOW? WHAT? WHY DID THEY HAVE AMANDA'S NAME ON HERE? WELL IT WAS FRIDAY, I THINK IT WAS FRIDAY THE 29TH.
OKAY, SO WE SHOULD RUN YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST, RIGHT? OKAY.
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YEAH, KIM KIM'S BEDROOM.I DON'T KNOW WHY AMANDA RAN YESTERDAY.
IS SHE UP HERE? UHUH YESTERDAY OR FRIDAY? SHE UP HERE FRIDAY.
HEY COME TRY TO LOG IN AND SEE IF YOUR LOGS IN.
OH, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO RESTART IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T TURN MY COMPUTER OFF.
BECAUSE SOME KIND OF UNABLE JAVA.
YEAH, JAVA ERROR OR SOMETHING.