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MONDAY DECEMBER THE 12TH, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING IN COFFEE COUNTY.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR QUARTERLY EVENING MEETINGS.
THIS WILL BE THE LAST, UH, EVENING MEETING WE'LL HAVE DURING THIS YEAR.
AND APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING HERE.
IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT HERE WHEN WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE, JUST A FEW MOMENTS, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, FILL OUT A FORM THERE AND WE'LL, UH, INTRODUCE YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
THE COURT WILL NOT RESPOND TO THOSE, UH, COMMENTS, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM ANYONE THAT'S HERE TODAY, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DO THAT.
EVERYBODY, ANYONE WISH TO SIGN UP HASNT SIGNED UP.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON COMMISSIONER JACKSON TO GIVE OUR AND ALLEGIANCE.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR HELP AND OUR STRENGTH.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE GENTLEMAN SUCCESS, THIS COURT.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN AND BLESSED THAT ARE BEING MADE HERE, THAT IT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY AND ALSO OF THE CITIZENS OF COFFEE COUNTY.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS US WITH THE RAIN THAT WE HAVE, AND CONTINUE TO BLESS, UH, UH, CONTINUE TO BLESS US WITH THE REIGN THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN, FATHER, WE BLESS YOU TO CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR TRUTH THAT ARE OVERSEAS ALL HAND, THAT THEY MAY HAVE A SAFE JOURNEY BACK HOME, ALL EXPERIENCE, AND MY SON AMEN.
PLEDGE DILIGENCE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, THE INDIVISIBLE WITH THE EVERYTHING IN JUSTICE TORONTO ON HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG OF MY EVIDENT ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE SAVED UNDER GOD, WARM AND INDIVIDUAL.
THE FIRST AGENDA IS I HAVE, UH, UH, THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO US THIS MORNING, THE FIRST OR THIS EVENING.
BELIEVE JUDY, YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF HERE AT THE MICROPHONE.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOU, UH, YOUR COMMENTS.
WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES, JUDGE WOOD AND COMMISSIONERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING REGARDING LOWERING THE PURCHASING AGENDA AT $15,000, AS I BELIEVE THE CITIZENRY OF COPLIN COUNTY DESERVE A TIGHTER CHECKS AND BALANCES ON SPENDING.
NEXT ITEM IS, UH, DAVID HU WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE, UH, TAX CONTRACT ON THE AGENDA HERE.
IF FEW WANT, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS ARE Y'ALL THIS EVENING? GOOD.
UH, I, UH, I AM DAVID HUDSON WITH THE PURDUE FIRM, AND I JUST WANTED TO COME OVER HERE THIS EVENING AND, UH, UH, TELL THE JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS THANK Y'ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO COME OVER HERE AND BID ON A COUPLE OF CONTRACTS FOR KAMAN COUNTY.
I'VE, UH, ENJOYED COMING TO KAMAN COUNTY.
I I'VE MET SOME AWFUL, UH, NICE FOLKS OVER HERE.
UH, I'VE ENJOYED THE EXPERIENCE AND, UH, LOVE TO WORK.
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE IF THAT OPPORTUNITY ARISES.
AND, UH, AND JUDGE, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL RETURN TO THE BALANCE OF MY TIME
NEXT PERSON IS, UH, FELLOW BY WISHES TO SPEAK TO US ON THE AGENDA ITEM CONCERN.
DIDN'T KNOW, UH, THE PROPER PROTOCOL OF WHETHER OR NOT I NEEDED TO SIGN UP AND SPEAK ON IT, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, VETERANS MEMORIAL BOARD, WE REQUEST THE, UH, MR. RAYLAND, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF IT SINCE THE DAY ONE.
AND, UH, HE HAS DECIDED HE WANTS TO STEP DOWN.
SO HE ASKED, UH, UH, IF I WOULD CONSIDER SERVING ON THE COURT.
I SAID IF THE COURT, ANYWAY, WE MADE A, A LIST OF PROPOSED NEW BOARD, UH, FOR THE VETERANS OF MEMORIAL PARK, AND WE REQUEST THE COURT TO, UH, SEE THEY CAN MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS MUCH? ALL THERE GO PRETTY GOOD, EXCEPT NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER ONE, AND IT IS THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
AND, UH, YOU HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS. ONES THAT WAS ON
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THE TABLE WHEN WE GOT HERE THIS EVENING IS AN UPDATE ON OUR COUNTY JP COLLECTIONS, JEFF BROWN GIVING US A MONTHLY UPDATE ON THAT DATE.SO JEFF BROUGHT THAT THIS EVENING.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET YOU PRESENT THAT, SIR.
UH, THIS IS THE EIGHTH TIME I'VE RECORDED A, THIS THINK STARTED IN MAY.
AND, AND THIS REPORT GOES THROUGH NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
UH, IN NOVEMBER THERE'S APPROXIMATELY $145,000 COLLECTING FEES FINDINGS BY THE JPS HERE IN THE COUNTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE TOTAL, THE CUMULATIVE TOTAL IS DOWN $2.275 MILLION.
UH, I'M REALLY HOPING THEY COLLECT $224,000 IN CHANGE.
UH, I KNOW THAT THE, THE JPS CONTINUE TO WORK HARD.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, SOME OF THE PROCEDURES ARE, ARE COMING DOWN A BIT IN TERMS OF INCREASE, BUT STILL, OVERALL THERE'S BEEN A 37.6% INCREASE, UH, THROUGH NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR OVER THE 2010 NUMBERS.
UH, I'M REALLY PLEASED TO BE WORKING WITH, WITH THE JPS.
THEY CONTINUE TO TO WORK HARD AND I SAY THAT THEY, THEY BE WORKING HARD WHEN I GO BY AND VISIT THE OFFICER.
THEY GOT, THEY GOT PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT THAT THEY SEEM TO BE WORKING.
UH, THIS REPORT CONTINUES TO, TO, TO IMPRESS ME EACH MONTH BECAUSE IT, EVERY SINGLE MONTH THIS YEAR THEY BEEN AHEAD.
SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT FOR AS WELL.
AS YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM, UH, WE'VE COLLECT ABOUT THREE IN THOUSAND OBJECT.
YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
I ALSO HAD SOME ITEMS THAT I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT ENJOY SEEING.
ONE OF THEM IS A COPY OF A, A NEWSPAPER, UH, STORY CONCERNING COUNTY, UH, WHERE THEY ARE SEEKING OR GRANT FOR 7 MILLION COURTHOUSE RENOVATION.
AND, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HOPE WE'RE ABLE TO GET ON, UH, BOARD FOR FUNDING FROM THE STATE.
UH, THE FUNDS ARE CERTAINLY LIMITED NOW, BUT UH, IF WE DON'T APPLY, WE KNOW WE WON'T GET IT.
AND, UH, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WHENEVER THOSE COURTHOUSE IS NOW ELIGIBLE.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH OUR HISTORICAL COMMISSION, WE CAN, UH, FIND SOME OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COURTHOUSE A OF THAT.
I WANNA SEE THAT YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY OF THE REPORT FROM WHERE THE NORTH STAR FUNDING.
REMEMBER THE, UH, RESOLUTION WE PASSED ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT OUR RESOLUTION ALONG SEVERAL OF THE OTHER COUNTIES GOT THE ATTENTION OF THE LEGISLATIVE BUDGET BOARD IN AUSTIN.
IT DOES APPEAR THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEND THEM ADDITIONAL 5 MILLION TO THE METROPLEX AREA MENTAL SERVICES.
WE PASS THAT ALONG TO YOU, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT REGARD.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF NOVEMBER 21ST AS ITEM A.
YOU HAVE AN ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER THE 28TH, WHICH IS ITEM B.
YOU HAVE A REQUEST TO APPROVE THE DE OF WILLIAM SPOON FOR THE, UH, COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN ITEM C.
THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY OF THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, TWO 12, 2012 OFFICIAL COUNTY HOLIDAYS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR WORKSHOP LAST WEEK.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THOSE? LIKE, SO NEEDS TO BE PULLED OFF? WELL, GOOD.
ONLY THING, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM AND WHAT GOT THERE PHYSICAL, WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE DAY OFF.
UH, DOES THAT NEED TO BE LISTED AS OR THAT JUST, WE CAN PUT THAT ON THERE.
I MEAN, JUST AS REMINDER WOULD BE THROUGH, I GUESS IT BE THROUGH, UH, APRIL, I THINK WHEN THEY GOT BY HAVE THIS, DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE ON THIS WAS ON ENCOURAGING PEOPLE.
WE GONNA A DAY OFF IF THEY, IF THEY WOULD DO THAT SO THEY WOULDN'T SICK.
SO, WHICH BENEFITS US BECAUSE OF HAVING WORK,
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WE CAN DO THAT, BUT I GUESS IT WOULD JUST GO THROUGH THE NEXT BUDGET.I'LL MAKE A NOTE TO ADD THAT TO THAT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY NOTED TO DO IT RIGHT WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET.
HAVE A, LET'S APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? ALL ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON AWARDING R FT, NUMBER 11, TWO FOR DE TAX SERVICES AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN A CONTRACT.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN, BEEN MILDLY INVOLVED IN THIS, SO YOU WON.
GIVE US YOUR, UH, UH, WE HAD THREE, UH, QUALITY FIRMS BID ON THIS, UH, PERDUE, COLS AND MO.
UH, LINEER GOT BLAIR SIMPSON BRAG AND ALLEN, UM, ON THE INITIAL SCORING FIRST PHASE WHEN THE COMMITTEE WAS APPOINTED AND THE FIRST MEETING AFTER READING PROPOSAL, THE MEETING WITH THE SCORE, A 83.2 LINEBARGER HAD TO SCORE 86.8 IN BUR 66.4.
AFTER THAT INITIAL, UH, SCORING, UH, WAS DETERMINED TO BRING IN THE TOP TWO FIRMS FOR MORE VALUATION.
UH, WE DID THAT COMMITTEE MET AGAIN LAST WEEK, AND AT THAT TIME, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE SELECTED, UH, BASED ON THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF COMMITTEE, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT.
EVERYBODY PARTICIPATING IN THAT QUITE A TASK.
HAVE QUESTIONS? I'D LIKE TO THANK THAT.
AND EVERYBODY SERVED ON COMMITTEE FOR DOING THAT.
I, IT WAS FOR US ON THE THING TO GET THAT DOWN.
AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE GLAD TO GET THAT BEHIND YOU.
SO YOU MOVE ON SOMETHING ELSE.
WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE FOR YOU TODAY.
FIND SOMETHING, LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, OR RFP NUMBER 1102 TO, UH, LIVE WATER.
DO BLARED FOR ONE YEAR WITH ONE YEAR, UH, EXTENSION OR ONE YEAR RENEWAL.
IT WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE FIRST YEAR.
YEAH, THE FIRST YEAR WITH WE CAN EXERCISE.
REASON SCOPE OF WORK WAS FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWALS OFFICER COURT DECISION, HOW, HOW YOU AWARD THAT.
I WANNA MAKE, MAKE POINT THAT, THAT IT WAS FOR THREE YEARS, TWO YEAR RENEWAL.
UH, ALL OF IT COULD BE CANCELED.
NOTICE MY ONLY CONCERN THERE AGAINST OF COURSE, IS PLEASURE.
UH, I VIEW THIS AS SAME AS GETTING OUT HUNDRED CROWN AND THEN YOU AWARD NINE, FIVE.
I HAVE CONCERNS IF, IF THE VENDOR DECIDES TO SET UP SHOP AND, AND, UH, MEMBER BEST PLACE HAS A THREE YEAR LEASE YEAR CONTRACT.
UH, BUT IT'S THE COURT DECISION.
IN YOUR MIND, DO YOU, DO YOU THINK THIS SHOULD BE A THREE YEAR PERIOD? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'M JUST SAYING STATING THAT THE, THE BID WENT OUT THAT WAY.
I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S A 60 DAY.
I MEAN, UH, NO DOUBT YOU COULD, YOU COULD CANCEL THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRST YEAR OUT YOU HAVE RIGHT, TO CANCEL THAT CONTRACT JUST DURING THE FIRST YEAR.
NO, THAT'S ALL WITHOUT THE CONTRACT, BUT THERE COURT'S PLEASURE.
WILL THAT MAKE YOU, WILL THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO YOU? UH, ONLY IN THE FACT THAT, UH, I HAVE TO COME BACK HERE FOR RENEWALS MORE OFTEN, BUT, UM, I I WOULD LIKE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT.
YOU TOLD ME YOU LIKED US, SIR.
I LIKE, I I WOULD LOVE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT, BUT, BUT, UH, WHATEVER THE COURT DECIDES WILL BE FINE WITH US.
EARN YOUR TRUST IF THE VENDOR GIVE THAT.
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WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS, UH, DISCUSSION.
JOHN, I THINK YOU WERE WILLING TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
ARE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE RFP WENT OUT FOR A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND, AND WHILE THE BIDS WERE RESPONSIVE TO A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND, AND YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT SHOULD CHANGE NOW? NO, I'M ACTUALLY SAYING THAT, UH, MY OPINION OKAY, UH, IS THAT IT SHOULD, SHOULD BE AS STATED IN THE BID, BUT, UH, OKAY.
I JUST RELY ON MY FIRST APPEARANCE.
THE MOTION IS FOR, UM, DOES IT JUST PART OF THE PROCESS, DOES THAT HAVE, WOULD THAT HAVE AFFECTED THE PRICING OR THE SCORING? I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT, NOT A PRICE DRIVEN THING.
UH, OTHER THAN I, HOW MUCH TIME A VENDOR WOULD'VE SPENT ON, ON THAT PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, BEING A ONE YEAR VERSUS THREE MY, THAT I PUT OUT SOMETHING STATE CHANGE SCOPE, BUT COUNCIL WILL DO WITH THAT.
I MEAN, I'M NOT CONCERNED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF INDEBTING THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE COUNTY'S NOT GONNA DEBT ON THIS, NOT PAYING.
SO IN THAT SENSE, YOU CONTRACT LONGER THAN A YEAR.
UH, I HAVE A CLAUSE IN MY SPECIFICATIONS THAT SAYS THAT THE COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REJECT AT ANY TIME.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT? UM, UH, IT SEEMS UNUSUAL, BUT THAT, I DUNNO THAT IT'S, I MEAN, I, LIKE YOU SAY, IT'S NOT A PRICE DRIVEN CONSIDERATION, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ANALYSIS ON PURCHASING.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUTCOME OTHER THAN I'M ASKING FOR THIS.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE THAT COURT THAT.
UH, BEING INVOLVED IN A BUNCH OF, UH, A LOT OF, UH, BIDS AND BID OPENINGS AND THE INSURANCE BUSINESS, A LOT OF TIMES, UH, YOU WOULD GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER BID IF IT WERE A THREE YEAR BID THAN YOU WOULD A ONE YEAR BID.
DOES THAT ENTER INTO THIS, JEFF? NOT, NOT SPECIFICALLY.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS DURING THE PROCESS HAS BEEN THAT WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO RELOCATE OUR OFFICE DOWNTOWN.
AND, AND WADE T JUST, HE'S BEEN HELPING ME WITH THAT.
AND SEVERAL PEOPLE WE'VE TALKED TO OR EXPECT WOULD EXPECT US TO DO MULTI-YEAR LEASES.
SO THAT'S, THAT IS A CONSIDERATION.
UH, IF WE'RE GONNA BE ON THE SQUARE, FOR INSTANCE, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO SIGN A MULTI-YEAR LEASE.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU STILL BE ABLE, I MEAN, WOULD YOU STILL FEEL COMFORTABLE IN MOVING DOWNTOWN? ONE PART THE PROCESS EITHER, BUT NO SIR.
BUT IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, IS THAT A CATCH POINT? NO, I MEAN, THE ONLY, THE ONLY ISSUE, THE ONLY REASON I'M RAISING COMMISSION IS THAT, THAT IF IT'S A ONE YEAR CONTRACT ONLY, I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO ENTER INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE DOWNTOWN.
I MEAN, AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A TWO OR THREE YEAR LEASE.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD SO FAR.
UM, SO IF, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE DOWN HERE, THAT MAY BE CONSIDERATION.
SO COULD YOU NEGOTIATE A TWO YEAR LEASE? MR. JENT SAYS POSSIBLY.
SO, SO WHY WE PUT YOU IN THERE? SO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER A 10 YEAR CONTRACT, BUT I REALIZE THAT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE CARDS HERE, BUT, UH, NO, PROBABLY A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT WOULD BE, WOULD CERTAINLY BE BETTER FOR US IN TERMS OF PLANNING.
BUT, UH, WE WILL, WHATEVER THE COURT DESIRES TO DO, WE WILL, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE COURTS YOUR MOTION FOR ONE YEAR AND BELIEVE A SECOND.
AND I BELIEVE WHAT I UNDERSTAND, JOHN, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THIS? I'M OKAY.
I DON'T THE AND JEFF OKAY WITH YOU.
THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE.
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YOU'RE, YOU'RE OKAY WITH A ONE YEAR CONTRACT? I PREFER MOST A YEAR, BUT I WILL AGREE TO A WITNESS.I DON'T LIKE ASKING FOR THIS AND TAKING IT OUT.
BUT THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS ARE HERE.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK, BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS ONE YEAR WHERE THE ONE WHICH WAS ACTUALLY TWO YEARS RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN, WELL, WE GOT IN, WE'VE GOT IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, DOCUMENT TWO YEAR RENEWAL, IF I REMEMBER CORRECT.
I GUESS WE COULD SAY UP TO, UH, A FIVE YEAR PERIOD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT'S CALLED FOR THREE YEAR, TWO ONE YEARS.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA RENEW IT EACH YEAR OR MAXIMUM OF FIVE YEARS, THAT MAKE SENSE.
RIGHT? STILL IN MY MIND, THE 60 DAY FLAW, THE, THAT COVERS IT IN MY OF THINKING, BUT I'M NOT, WELL, MY MAIN CONCERN WAS, UH, I KNOW.
I THINK A SIX DAY CALL COVER EVERYTHING.
NOTICE
GOING RECOMMENDATION ON THERE WAS IN THE PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, THIS CONVERSATION THINGS, THINGS TO THAT.
BUT I I'LL THAT MIND TO, FOR THE RF AS PRESENTED BY THE RF AS PER SPECIFICATIONS.
WE HAVE, HE WITHDRAWS THIS MOTION TO WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND OF THE MOTION.
WE GET THROUGH THIS IN A MINUTE.
I HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTA MY PART YET.
SO, UH, YOU WANNA RESTATE YOUR MOTION HERE, LAURA? WE'LL, I GUESS YOU'RE GETTING THIS WELL, AND IT, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS.
I MEAN, WE CAN COMPLIMENT THIS WHOLE THING STAND THAT WE WENT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WITH ONE YEAR CONTRACT AND ONE YEAR RENEWAL WITH THE FIRST AND THE SECOND, AND THEN YOU CAN WITHDRAW IT AND AMEND IT.
OR WE CAN, YOU CAN JUST STATE IT THE WAY YOU WANT.
WE'LL DO THE FIRST AND SECOND AND THEN TO VOTE.
THAT MIGHT BE, WE HAVE GOT THE MOTION.
WE AWARD RFP NUMBER 1102 FOR TASK
WE HAVE A MOTION CLARK A SECOND.
MR. JACKSON SECOND MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE, I WANNA HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION.
THIS IS A 20% FEE THAT WILL BE PAID BY THE DELINQUENT TAXPAYER.
CORRECT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE OTHER ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY THAT WE COLLECT ARE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THE CITIES, THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS, THE JUNIOR COLLEGE, ALL THE VARIOUS TAXING ENTITIES YOUR FIRM WILL KNOW.
NOW GO BACK TO THEM AND DISCUSS WITH THEM GOING TO A 20% FEE.
I SHOULD ADD THAT I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE THREE ENTITIES NOW THAT ARE ONLY PAYING 15% FORNEY, ISD UH, CITY OF KAUFMAN, CURR ROSS.
ARE ISD YOUR HONOR, UH, JUDGE, WE HAVE GOTTEN COMMITMENTS FROM ALL THREE OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS TO OFFER THEIR ATTORNEY'S FEE FROM, ARE THERE A ADDITIONAL PENALTY FEE FROM 15 TO 20? THEY'RE GONNA BE TAKING THOSE ACTIONS SOMETIME AFTER THE FIRST YEAR.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER ENTITIES? DO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM? NO, SIR.
THEY, THEY PASSED THOSE RESOLUTIONS BACK IN OH THREE AND OH FOUR.
UH, FOR THE ONES THAT EXISTED THEN THE ONES THAT HAVE COME INTO EXISTENCE SINCE THAT TIME HAVE DONE SO.
SO THE THREE ENTITIES THAT, UH, LET'S JUST SAY THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT GO BACK, THAT MEANS WE'LL BE BACK IN THE SAME SITUATION WE'RE IN.
I DON'T LOOK, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED ME TO GET OFF ON THAT AGAIN, BUT I HAVE GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THAT JUDGE.
AND, AND, AND I I JUST WANT TO, TO INFORM YOU, INFORM YOU AND THE COURT THAT WE'VE HAD VERY DETAILED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
AND THE BEST WAY I TO SAY IT IS THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN THOSE JURISDICTIONS HAVE HAVE CHANGED.
AND, AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN TERMS OF COLLECTING ENT PROPERTY TAXES.
AND THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF THAT AT THIS, AT THIS TIME.
AND THAT THAT COMES FROM BOTH FIC ADMINISTRATIVE
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OF EFFICIENCIES.ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE VOTE? I JUST HAVE TO HAVE ONE QUESTION THEN.
WOULD IT BE, IF, IF THE ENTITY CAN MEET AT A LATER DATE AND THEY 15% AND YOU HONOR THAT CORRECT? WE, WE DO.
SO THAT THAT WOULD NOT PROHIBIT A ENTITY GOING BACK AND AMENDING THEIR PART OF THE CONTRACT.
WE COULD GO BACK TO 15% IF WE CHOSE TO DO THAT.
YOU, YOU COULD, BUT I'D HOPE IT'D BE AFTER A LONG PERIOD OF DISCUSSION.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER THING? THE CHAIR'S GONNA EXERCISE HIS RIGHTS TO VOTE THIS TIME I WANNA MAKE PUBLIC.
SO DO WE HAVE THE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HARD WORK.
THIS HAS BEEN QUITE A, QUITE AN EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING WITH IT, GETTING OUR ELECTION ON DOWN THE PATH WITH, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LORETTA WILLIAMS, WHO PRESENTS THE CHILDREN SHELTER DIRECTORS REPORT OF SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR TOTALS FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS, OUR NUMBERS ARE STILL VERY, NO WORD FROM THE TOP DOWN.
SO WE BASICALLY ARE JUST KIND OF TAKING THEM AS IT COMES.
AND WE'RE EXPERIENCING SOME CALLS FROM, UH, SOME ATTORNEY THAT WE HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM.
UH, WE HAVE HAD A FEW CALLS FROM HIM, UH, LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
WE HADN'T HEARD FROM HIM IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
AND WE ARE STILL RECEIVING A WATER.
CAUSE FOR THE MORE DIFFICULT BEHAVIORALLY CHALLENGED OVER KIDS, THERE SEEMS TO BE A VERY SEVERE LACK OF APPROPRIATE PRESENCE FOR THE, FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE ACTIVE DRUG USERS HISTORY.
THERE'S NO LONG, THEY SUCH A TREMENDOUS KIDS.
UM, WE HAD ONE MEDICAL EMERGENCY IN SEPTEMBER.
WE HAD A 9-YEAR-OLD BOY EMERGENCY AFTER, UH, WE HAD ONE IN HOSPITAL CREATES A HARDSHIP ON BECAUSE WE, UH, LUCKILY HE WAS ONLY THERE THAT DAY.
SO IT WASN'T, UH, WE DID HAVE AN INCIDENT FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER THAT WE, THAT REQUIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT INTERVENTION.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL, 15 YEAR, AND SEEING THAT HE HAD ABOUT FOUR AND HALF INCHES, FIVE POUNDS, SHE, AND IT TOOK MY STAFF SEVERAL MINUTES TO GET SEPARATED BETWEEN THE KIDS AND PS STAFF, THEIR ATTORNEY AND MYSELF.
WE ALL AGREED THAT THEY PROBABLY NEEDED TO BE SEPARATED.
UH, SO THEY ACTUALLY, UH, AND THEY SEPARATED TWO OF THEM INTO ONE PLACEMENT, TWO OF THEM INTO ANOTHER.
AND SINCE THEN, THIS 15-YEAR-OLD AND ME HAD SOME, HAD SOME CHALLENGES, UH, HAS BEEN MOVED AGAIN TO A, A RESTRICTIVE FACILITY.
I HATE TO READ OFF THE PAPER BILL.
IT JUST READ GOOD
THERE WAS LOT OF COMPETITION THAT NIGHT AND A LOT OF THE CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS WHO ALSO HAD EVENTS STAGED FOR THAT NIGHT, UH, UH, AFTER BILL PAY.
UH, AND IT WAS A REALLY FUN NIGHT.
THEY, THEY DECORATED REALLY NICELY AND IT TOOK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN PARK WORK TO GET IT SET UP.
AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL GROW YEAR.
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SENT THE SIM FIRST OF THE WEEK, WE ONLY HAD SEVEN.UH, AS OF THURSDAY, WE HAVE 19, UH, A PRETTY FIRM COMMITMENT FOR MOST OF THE, THE CPS OFFICES THAT THESE CHILDREN WILL BE HERE AT LEAST BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.
AND SOME OF THEM, SOME OF THEM LITTLE LONGER, THERE'S SOME SPECIAL NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF ORION.
BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY FOR, I DO WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT OUR, THE FOUNDATION BOARD, UH, AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS OF RESEARCH AND, AND SOME REALLY HARD WORK AND EFFORT, UH, HAS OPENED THE FRESH STORE IN 40, UH, TO GENERATE SOME, SOME FUNDING FOR THE SHELTER.
UH, LONG TERM FUNDING FOR THE SHELTER.
UH, THEY OPENED MID, MID-NOVEMBER.
UH, IT'S TAKEN OFF A LITTLE SLOW TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT.
THE STORE NICE, CLEAN AND GETTING BRIGHT.
UH, THE COMMUNITY IS JUST OVER DONATIONS.
UH, THE, THE SHOPPERS THAT, THAT WE INTERVIEW WHEN THEY COME IN AT HEAR US, WHAT DO YOU THINK? UH, GOTTEN REALLY, REALLY GOOD POSITIVE RESPONSES.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF HER.
UM, AND AGAIN, MY MORTGAGE DIRECTOR HAS ASKED ME TO PASS ON THAT.
WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR MEMBERS.
UH, WE RECENTLY LOST ANOTHER ONE DUE TO A JOB CHANGE AND, UH, LAST, SO WE WE'RE REALLY DESPERATE.
MATT, MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA, MAYBE HERE A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE THEY GET THAT OUT.
ACTUALLY, WE HAD SEVEN, I THINK RIGHT NOW.
AND OUR ALL STATE, WE HAVE UP TO 15.
SO I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE 10 OR 12.
UH, OUR OUR LONG TERM MEMBERS ARE JUST VERY, THE BRUNT OF ALL THE WORK AND THERE'S JUST PEOPLE SPREAD OUT.
SO I WOULD TO SEE FIVE OR SIX CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO ANY RECOMMENDATION.
I'VE BRIEFLY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SOME FOSTER FAMILIES.
AND WHAT LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE? I HOPE YOU GIMME SOME MORE KNOWLEDGE.
WHAT I'M, WHAT LITTLE BIT I KNOW ABOUT THAT.
WHEN THE CHILD RETURNS 18, DOES THE STATE FUNDING COME COMPLETELY UP UNTIL ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO IT DID.
AND OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE SEEN MANY, MANY, MANY WORKERS PICK THEIR, UH, YOUR CHILD UP ON THEIR 18TH BIRTHDAY WITH A TOTE BAG AND DIRECTIONS TO SALVATION.
I MEAN, THAT WAS NOT FOUNDATION, UH, THAT WAS STANDARD PROCEDURAL UP UNTIL ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE, I WANNA SAY IN CASEY FOUNDATION, UH, DID A RESEARCH PROJECT, UH, ON, ON THE STATES WITH THE, WITH LARGEST POPULATION OF FOSTER CARE, UH, IN HOMELESS PEOPLE UNDER, UNDER AGE 30, UH, TEXAS, FRANK WAY UP THERE FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE AGE GROUP THAT WERE KIDS THAT HAD AGED OUT FOSTER CARE.
SO IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THEY HAVE DEVELOPED SOME REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL PROGRAMS FOR THOSE KIDS.
EXTENDED THEIR MEDICAID AND THEY CAN STAY IN A FOSTER HOME.
THEY'RE GONNA SCHOOL, UH, I, YES SIR.
THEY'RE STILL GOING SCHOOL WHEN THEY'RE, THEY FINISH OUT THAT SCHOOL YEAR.
AND THEN THE SCHOOL YEAR IS OUT.
UNLESS THEY CAN MOVE INTO A TRANSITIONAL PROGRAM AND THAT IT'S NOT A FOSTER CARE PROGRAM.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF AN OFFSHOOT.
UH, P-D-F-B-S STILL FUNDS IT, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.
UH, IT IS WHERE THE KIDS, UH, 18 TO 22.
AND I THINK MOST OF THE PROGRAMS LAST BETWEEN 18 AND 24 9.
UH, AND THEY LIVE IN TOWN WITH SIX EIGHT KIDS, UH, HOUSE MONITOR.
AND THEY PARTTIME GO SCHOOL, PARTTIME, UH, GET DRIVER LICENSE.
YOU GET GET FOR CAR INSURANCE, EXTENDED TIME TO CATCH UP FIRST ON SOME SOCIAL SKILLS AND SOME JOB SKILLS AND SOME EDUCATION.
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RUNS PROGRAM T I'D CONTACT YOU.WHENEVER IT'S OFF, IT'S, IT'S OVER THERE.
IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE SITUATION.
THE MAJORITY OF KIDS WHO SPEND ANY LENGTH OF TIME IN CVS CARE WHEN THEY TURN 18 TAKE THEY'RE NOT OPEN TO PROGRAMS. BUT BY THE TIME THEY BOTH RAN ON THE STREETS FOR A YEAR OR SO FOR A YEAR WITH NO JOB HOME, UH, USUALLY BY 19 20TH THE LATEST THEY'RE GOING, WHAT AM I DOING? UH, AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL REALLY ONE PROGRAM.
MS. WILLIAMS, I HAVE QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, ON THIS SHEET THAT I GOT HERE.
UH, DO YOU HAVE, UH, THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS SERVED? YES.
AND IT SAYS TOTAL DAY SERVED IS 228.
AVERAGE CLIENTS PER DAY 7.6 YEAR TO DATE AVERAGE 10.4.
IS THAT 228 DAYS OF SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THE REFERRING AGENCIES? IN OTHER WORDS, UH, YEAR TO DATE, IS THAT WHAT THOSE, IS THAT WHAT THE DAY OF SERVICE IS? DAYS OF SERVICE LISTED FOR MONTH.
UH, THE STATE PAYS ON A DAY RATE.
SO THAT IS A, A, A UNIT OF SERVICE FOR THAT MONTH.
UH, FOR THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT WE HAVE PER DAY, UH, BASED ON THE DAY RATE.
SO THIS, THIS NUMBER AVERAGE CLIENTS PER DAY THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE CHILDREN THAT THE 17, UH, 17 KIDS YOU HAVE NOW.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S JUST WHAT WAS REFERRED TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I BELIEVE THIS REQUIRES APPROVAL, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE ALWAYS GLAD TO GET YOUR, UH, THE REPORT IN.
NUMBER FOUR IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON A POINT.
UH, JAMES R DICK NEIL, JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN, DANNY BOOTH AND RICHARD DICK AS AN AD HOC MEMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS FOR KAMAN COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL.
WERE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2012.
YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT EARLIER IN THE, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU ARE NOT GONNA ACCEPT THAT RECORD? NO MA'AM.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FIVE? ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE I MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL NUMBER SIX IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON, UH, AUDITING THE, UH, FUNDING YEAR 2011 CHAPTER 59 ASSET FORFEITURE FUND REPORT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF THE COUNTY.
SHERIFF, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
UH, WE ALSO, UH, HAD, UH, BEEN RUN BY THE'S OFFICE AND APPROVED.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE SHERIFF IS HERE.
THIS IS A COURT HAS TO GO INTO THE, WE LAST FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DO WE HAVE SECOND MAN DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON EXPENDING ADDITIONAL FUNDS, UH, ACTUALLY IN THE AMOUNT OF 5,000 1 25 FOR THE REPAIRS OF THE LOWER EAST PART LATERAL SITE.
NUMBER SEVEN PROJECT, UH, AND ENDING THE BUDGET, UH, ACCORDINGLY.
UH, I TALKED WITHAL ABOUT THIS.
ACTUALLY WE HAVE $25,000 BUDGETED IN OUR ALTERNATIVE BUDGET FOR THAT.
UH, OUR PERCENT OF THIS IS, UH, 5% TOTAL PROJECT IS GONNA COST SOMEWHERE AROUND 523,000.
THIS IS A FLOOD PREVENTION PROJECT THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF.
HAL, I, YOU SAID WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, MOVE SOME MONEY AROUND AND MAKE THIS WORK FOR US, BUT, UH, THIS IS ONE
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OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE DON'T EXPECT TO COME UP BUT DO MOST TIME TO.THIS OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE, UH, REWORKED AND CAUSE SOME, DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? YES, SIR.
UH, I SPOKE WITH ZACH KINZIE AT THE, UH, NRCS AND THE REASON THAT THEY HAD TO INCREASE THIS WAS BECAUSE NORMALLY IN THIS REPAIR THEY WOULD DRAW THE WATER THEY NEED MIXED WITH THE LIME FROM THE RESERVOIR ITSELF BEHIND THE DAM BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT, THERE'S NO WATER THERE.
AND WHAT HE TOLD ME IS THERE'S STILL A WAYS OFF FROM STARTING THE PROJECT AND SINCE WE'VE BEEN HAVING RAINS LATELY, IF IT CONTINUES, WE MAY NOT HAVE TO PAY ALL OF THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT PAY ANY OF IT.
WE ONLY HAVE TO PAY A PORTION OF IT.
BUT I WANT TO BRING THAT TO Y'ALL ATTENTION THAT DEPENDING ON THE RAIN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT HAVE THINK KEEP, KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED.
SO QUESTION BETWEEN THIS, WHERE THIS READ WAS THAT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL LOOKING FOR THEIR ADDITIONAL $97,000.
IF THEY DON'T BUY THEIR $97,000, WE PUT OUR 5,000 INTO IT.
AND I BELIEVE ZACH SAID THAT THEY HAD ALREADY GOTTEN THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THEY'VE ALREADY THAT UH, I HAVE A CALL FROM.
UM, I THINK THE FUNDING IS, THEY'RE JUST WAITING ON US TO GIVE OUR APPROVAL.
WELL, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S STILL A COUPLE MONTHS AWAY BEFORE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY GET STARTED.
SO WE CAN GET IN THAT RAIN NEXT COUPLE MONTHS AND MAY HELP US OUT.
GET THE RAIN BE MILLION DOLLAR.
WE HAVE A, MR. JACKSON MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON ACCEPTING DONATION OF 115 FROM THE OLD HOLLOW HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR ROAD REPAIR FOR OLD HOLLOW IN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
YOUR HONOR, JUDGE, THIS IS, THIS IS MINE.
THIS IS THE ROAD THAT I FIXED, UH, ABOUT 60 DAYS AGO.
AND, UH, WE ACCEPTED A DONATION OF $500 IN ROAD THAT HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION HAD DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANNA FIX WITH ANYTHING BUT CONCRETE.
AND APPARENTLY SOME PEOPLE OUT TOWN THAT DIDN'T PUT IN THEIR PART AND, UH, SOMEHOW THEY PUTTING IT IN THAT WE ACCEPT 15 UP CALLA.
HAVE A MOTION MR. MAN TO ACCEPT THIS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON REAL MR. KENNER AND DR. LISA JONES AS COMMISSIONERS OF THE KAMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES TO DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S IN YOUR AREA.
WHETHER THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT OR NOT, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY OVER THERE SWORN IN AT SOME POINT.
YES, I, WE REAPPOINT BILL PAN ANDERS OF COUNTY SECOND JACKSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED ALRIGHTYY NUMBER 10 IS FROM HOW TO PRESENT AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY ACCEPT THE AUDITORS REPORT FOR NOVEMBER, 2011.
OFFICE WISHES TO COME BY AND LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT NOVEMBER JACKSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A THINK YOU ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT IN GEORGIA.
STEPPED OUT, DISCUSS AND ACT ON PLEADING RENOVATIONS AND DATA INSTALLATION FOR THE OFFICES AND TRAINING ROOM DESIGNATED FOR OCCUPANCY AT THE ARMORY.
THIS WOULD NOT INCLUDE, UH, ANY AREA THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR DEVELOPMENT AS AN EOC OR
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AS A REGIONAL DISPATCH CENTER.THIS WOULD SIMPLY LET US MOVE FORWARD THE AREA THAT'S GONNA BE A TRAINING ROOM THERE AND, UH, START RIGGING IN UP THE APPROVED TRAINING.
GEORGE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ABOUT THAT? PENDING THE COURT'S APPROVAL, OUR PLAN WAS TO GET WITH LIEUTENANT JANUARY WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF TRAINING AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WE WERE GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT RESOURCES WE CURRENTLY USE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WE CAN BRING IT OVER TO THE NEW TRAINING ROOM.
AND WE FELT THAT ONCE WE DEVELOPED THE ROOM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD KIND OF COORDINATE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE LEAVING THE TRAINING ROOM AND AS WE NEEDED, UM, FACILITY TO TRAINING, WHETHER IT SOFTWARE TRAINING OR WHATEVER, WE COORDINATE THROUGH THAT, WE KIND TOGETHER, BUT THEY WOULD KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE LOSING THE
SO OUR SHORT TERM GOAL IS TO FIND OUT WHAT RESOURCES WE CAN INCORPORATE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY THAT ACTUALLY CAN BE MOVED OVER FROM THE PROJECTORS COMPUTER.
AND WE'VE GOT SOME CLEANUP WORK DOING THAT ROOM, UH, AS WELL.
BUT THAT, THAT ALL COME BEFORE WE CAN DO A LOT OF
WELL NOT THAT I WOULD EVER THINK THAT WE WOULD WANNA DO THIS, BUT I A PORTION FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SO THE SHERIFF HAS, I'M NOT GONNA SPEND HIS MONEY IF THAT'S LEGAL EXPENDITURE.
DO YOU HEAR ME SHERIFF? HE'S GONNA TURN UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR UH, GEORGE? I WAS, I WAS UH, WONDERING GEORGE, HOW LONG, IF UH, HOW LONG YOU PHYSICALLY MOVE THE EQUIPMENT FROM, FROM THE JAIL OVER TO THE ARMY? WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO, UM, OF COURSE HAVE TO FINISH IT OUT, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET ROOM FOR OUR EVIDENCE AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET WITH LIEUTENANT JANUARY AND THE TRAINING STAFF TO FIND OUT WHAT SCHEDULE TRAINING IS ALREADY OUT.
IS THAT WHAT I'M, OF COURSE YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS HOW MANY DAYS PHYSICALLY TO MOVE, WOULD THAT BE A ONE DAY DEAL? CAN WE MOVE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT ONE DAY IF YOU OH SURE, YEAH, WE'LL GET THAT DONE.
I KNOW THE PRECINCT FLOOR ALWAYS VOLUNTEERS AND RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, THINGS SO VOLUNTEER GRACIOUSLY.
HAVE YOU GOT AN IDEA OF
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO REMODEL THE PAINTING AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING, I THINK YOU FOLKS WILL PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER HANDLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST, THE INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF ON THERE, JUST THE AREA THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA USE THIS WOULD NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE AREA YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, LARGER AREA WE CALL THE DRILL FLOOR.
THIS IS SIMPLY THE AREA WE KNOW WE'RE EXISTING.
I WAS LOOKING AT WITH THE REQUEST WAS I SEE THIS COMPLETELY RANDOM BASIS WITH BO THAT'S NOT JUST DOING VOICE DATA.
IT COULD INCLUDE LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DESK AND FURNITURE AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, WE WOULD NEED TO OUTFIT A TRAINING FACILITY, WHICH MEANS THE WHOLE DESK CHAIRS, WHATEVER.
AND THERE ARE DESKS IN THE EXISTING ROOM NOW, I BELIEVE AREN'T THE SHERIFF AND CHAIRS.
YES, WE'VE GOT, UH, THE ROOM THAT WE'RE GOING TO VACATE HAS, UH, FURNITURE IN IT THAT WE'LL MOVE OUT THERE THAT HAS THE, THE PORTS ON THE DESK AND ALL AFTER THAT.
BUT THIS ROOM IS ABOUT TWICE AS LARGE OR ACTUALLY PROBABLY MUCH PROBABLY THAT.
SO WE PROBABLY WILL WIND UP HAVING GET SOME ADDITIONAL FURNITURE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WATER COURT AND IT'S OKAY.
OTHER QUESTIONS OF GEORGE I'LL, A MOTION TO APPROVE MANNING MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 11.
SECOND MR. CLARK SECONDS FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR WILL COME OUTTA CONSTRUCTION BUDGET.
YES, I WOULD THINK AND YEAH, I HAD, I HAD SENT JOHN LONG AN EMAIL MAKING SURE WE CAN USE THAT FUNDS FOR THE WINERY AND HE SUGGESTED I CONTACT TOM POLL.
OKAY, I'M SUPPOSED TO HEAR FROM HIM TOMORROW.
PARDON? BECAUSE SO IF IT DOES COME BY THAT YOU'LL BE OVERSEER.
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ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND OTHER QUESTIONS.ALRIGHT, GEORGE, NUMBER 12 DEALS WITH YOU DISCUSS AND ACT ON SECURING THE ARMORY WITH THE ABILITY TO MONITOR ACTIVITY FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THIS IS, AND YEAH, JUDGE, YOU MET, UH, THE VENDOR, UH, ONE AND UH, I THINK WE TALKED TO THE SHERIFF AND OUR GOAL, WE HAVE A LOT OF SECURITY ISSUES ON OUR PLATE NOW A LOT OF THE THINGS WE USE IN THE COURTHOUSE NOW ARE OBSOLETE AND WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON MAKING UPGRADES AND CHANGES, BUT THAT THOSE FUNDS THAT COMES OUT OF COURTHOUSE SECURITY, THAT'S NOT AFFECTED BY, BUT WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO OUT THERE WE CAN VIEW FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TODAY.
IF YOU GO ON DISPATCH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ON THE WALL THEY'RE ABLE TO VIEW THE HALLWAYS, THE COURTROOMS AND VARIOUS FACILITIES AROUND THE COUNTY.
AND WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO THERE IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING ANYWHERE ELSE.
SO YOU'RE ABLE TO MONITOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, SO THAT WOULD BE CAMERAS ACCESS CONTROL.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME QUOTES ON THE TABLE.
WE'LL GET IT TO YOU JUDGE, ON THE SPECIFICS OF THIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THE COST OF THAT PART? UM, AGAIN, I, WE WILL IN SHORT, AND I, AND I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN DO WITH STAGES.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE IMMEDIATE CONCERN I THINK STEVE HAS IS THE SECURITY OF HIS ASSETS OUT THERE.
SO WE MAY, EXCUSE ME, SECURE THE BUILDING, GET THE CAMERAS UP AND RUNNING SO WE CAN MONITOR IT, BUT WE MAY NOT NEED TO DO ACCESS CONTROL RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE STEVE WOULD'VE TO SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE PROBABLY DO IN THIS STAGE AS WE, AS THE KNEE ARISES, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH EACH DEPARTMENT.
STEVE, IF, UH, AS FAR AS THE ACCESS CONTROLLED, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND DO IT, BUT, UH, WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.
UH, WHATEVER YOU YOU WANT TO HAPPEN, I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN ALSO.
BUT I'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE WE START BRINGING IN, UH, A LOT OF HIGH DOLLAR ASSETS TO STORE IN THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOTHING.
SO WE, WE NEED SOMETHING IN OTHER THAN WE MAKE SURE IT'S LOCKED UP EVERY NOW LOCKED UP WHENEVER, WELL, IT'LL BE A WHILE BEFORE WE BRING ANY HIGH DOLLAR STUFF IN THERE, RIGHT? WELL, NO SIR, I'VE PURPOSELY NOT BROUGHT ANYTHING OVER THAT I COULD RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SECURITY PREVIOUSLY HAD BEEN PURCHASED.
OUR CAMERA'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH JUST TO, UH, RENDER THE PROPERTY TO SECURE WITHOUT NO, THE CAMERAS LOCKS ON THE DOOR AND ALL WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO LIKE WE DID WITH, WITH ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
WELL GEORGIA IS NOT, SHOULDN'T BE A BIG EXPENSE TO THIS.
UH, INCLUDE OUR SECURITY SYSTEM MIGHT DO A CARD PASS AND ALL THAT.
WE'VE GOT ISSUE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO ACCESS CONTROL, RIGHT DVRS AND UM, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE DO EVERYWHERE ELSE, RIGHT? BUT, SO WE JUST HAVE THE SAME SECURITY SYSTEM OUT THERE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYWHERE ELSE.
JACK, I'D JUST LIKE TO JUDGE THAT.
UH, YOU'VE BEEN WITH GUARDIAN SECURITY AND THEY ARE A MEMBER OF THE BEEN OUT, SO WE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST COMMISSIONS.
NO, BUT UH, WE CAN COME BACK CONSTRUCTION PLANNING ON PAYING FOR IT OUT THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE STILL HAVE TO LABEL TO US THE FUNDS THAT ARE IN THERE FOR RENOVATION PURPOSES.
BUT I THINK JOHN, LIKE GOOD IDEA TO CHECK.
WE, WE JUST NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE IT'S TEMPERATURE AND IN THE MEANTIME WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
THIS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF CRAWLING ALONG HERE AND THIS IS THE NEXT PART OF OCCUPYING THAT ARMY.
SO THIS WILL JUST KIND OF, I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED PROCESS FOR EVERYBODY IN SECURITY TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US.
OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FOLKS THAT KNOW THE ANSWERS HERE, I JUST THOUGHT I'D THOROUGHLY SAY IT'S JUST SOMETHING BEEN ROUND AND AROUND IN MY HEAD.
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SINCE IT'S ALREADY GOT CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND THREE SIDES OF IT, WHAT IF WE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND THAT FRONT PARKING LOT AND MAKE IT SECURE AND HAVE AN ADDED LAYER? WELL, THEY BROKE INTO THE BUILDING THROUGH THE FENCED IN AREA.SO
I JUST THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT OUT AT, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT ABOUT VANDALISM.
NOW IF, IF WE EXTENDED THAT FENCE UP TO THE FRONT CORNER OF THE BUILDING, LIKE THE OTHER ONE THAT WOULD LEAVE ONLY A VERY FEW WINDOWS EXPOSED, THAT MIGHT HELP.
BUT I DON'T SEE THE, THE WHOLE PARKING LOT PROVIDING THAT MUCH.
UH, BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT, ITS LOCATION IS SO VISIBLE FROM THE NURSING HOME AND THE ROAD, I DON'T SEE THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
OTHER QUESTIONS, WHEN WE DO THE CONTROLLED ACCESS FROM THE LOCK ON THE DOOR OR WHATEVER BEST I CAN REMEMBER, THOSE TWO FRONT DOORS GONNA HAVE TO GO TO MEET OUR NEEDS.
SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON SECURING THOSE TWO FRONT DOORS KNOWING THEY'RE GONNA REPLACE THEM WITH PROBABLY SOME GLASS DOORS THAT WHY WOULD IT, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A SECURE FACILITY, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO REPLACE THOSE BIG HEAVY STEEL DOORS? THE GLASS DOORS, STEEL DOORS? YEAH, PROBABLY TO BE CLEANED UP ALL THAT.
BUT THEY'RE PRETTY, I DON'T YES SIR.
AND IT'S THE WIRED WIRED GLASS WINGS AND WE WANT THIS BUILDING TO PURE SURE, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
OKAY, DO Y'ALL WANT LET THEM MOVE AHEAD AS FAR AS UH, SECURING THE ARMORY WITH THE ABILITY TO MONITOR ACTIVITY FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? THIS I A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION FROM SECOND OBJECTION.
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I LIKE, OH NO, SHE LOCKED ME OUT.SO AT THIS POINT, BASICALLY ALL OF THESE WERE DONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THEY WERE SAYING, SO WE MAY DRIVING INTO IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM 14 IS DISCUSSED AND ACT ON ADVERTISING.
BID THE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS MATERIALS.
IT'S MY FACTS NOT TALKING TO YOUR FACTS AND HAD TO GET THIS OUT.
SO I HAVE ADVERTISED ONCE PAPER.
WE'RE SEEKING, SEEKING PERMISSION.
DO SO, UH, AND WE ARE, WE'RE SCHEDULED FORGIVENESS IN YES SIR.
AND WE ARE SCHEDULED TO CLOSE THAT BID ON DECEMBER, UH, TUESDAY DECEMBER THE 27TH AT 10:00 AM CAN ANY I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU GUYS THAT NEED
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PRICING CASE, THE PRICE SHOULD GO UP.I KNOW IT'S, I KNOW TEMPERATURE Y'ALL WORK WHETHER YOU USE OR NOT, BUT MIGHT WANNA GET, GET SOME STOCK GOING UP WEEKS.
WILL THIS CONTRACT COVER MOTIONS TOO? YES SIR.
THAT MOTION WILL COVER PIGGYBACKING OFF OF A BETTER DEAL THAT IS SEPARATE WITH THAT PIGGYBACK DEAL, WE BE ABLE TO CARRY THAT RIGHT ON? YES SIR.
I KNOW THAT WE ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS ROAD JURY AND YOU HAVE A MOTION, MR. AMEN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MR. JACKSON.
SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY 15 IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON EXERCISING A RENEWAL OPTION WITH 3D MECHANICAL SERVICES FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR HEATING AND AIR CONDITION SERVICE.
REMEMBER WE DID THAT OUT LAST YEAR AND UH, I THINK THAT RUNS ABOUT, UH, RIGHT AWAY AND SEEKING THAT.
I THINK EVERYBODY IS PRETTY PLEASED WITH I THINK SO.
BEEN WELL I THINK THAT THAT FIGURE THREE 50 ALSO SAME TIME PEOPLE, REAL CONSCIENTIOUS EVERY TIME THEY MIGHT BE CALLED BECAUSE I HAVE EYE ON, BUT THEY'RE REALLY BIG ON TRYING TO GET PERMISSION TO DO ANYTHING.
I'VE HELP SOMETIMES BROKEN BELT PERMISSION.
ALRIGHT, ON ITEM I MAKE THAT MOTION TO, UH, MOTION ALL, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE DID ELECTORAL ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS IT NOT UP REBUILD ALSO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LATER, IT TOOK A LONGER TIME TO GET THAT AWARDED.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOME FOLKS HERE FOR THIS TONIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON MAKING LOCATION FROM THE, UH, FAMILY PROTECTION.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE INFORMATION.
THIS IS, SO WE, UH, DISCUSSED AT A WORKSHOP, UH, LAST WEEK AND I DID RECEIVE A CALL FROM BLUE BAIL WITH THE KAMAN ROCKWALL COUNTY HOSPITAL ORGANIZATION AND THEY'RE HAVING THEIR ANNUAL CHRISTMAS GATHERING TONIGHT AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, UH, BE HERE BUT WOULD'VE BEEN HERE AND HAD, UH, WE REQUESTED THE NECESSARY TO TO DO SO.
SO WE UH, AGAIN, HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED, UH, INFORMATION TO US CONCERNING THEIR, UH, SERVICES THEY PROVIDE.
WE HAVE, I KNOW, UH, PASTOR NANCY HERE FROM THE, UH, GENESIS CENTER AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, OF COURSE HERE FROM THE COUNTY CHILDREN'S EMERGENCY CENTER OR THE NORVILLE CENTER.
AND UH, THEN OF COURSE THE OTHER ONE IS LONG.
WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 65,000 I BELIEVE.
IS THAT RIGHT AL THAT HAS THROUGH THE END OF NOVEMBER.
THAT HAS ACCUMULATED FOR ABOUT THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
THIS IS A FEE THAT IS COLLECTED, UH, I BELIEVE AND IT'S JUST BEEN SITTING THERE AND SO IT'S NOT, UH, IT, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR.
UH, ALL THREE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT MENTIONED, UH, DO A GREAT JOB IN SERVING FAMILIES AND KIDS.
AND SO I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS? I WANNA SAY WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS.
WELL, MY RECOMMENDATION IS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYBODY HERE?
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PRESENTATION.WE, UH, THIS, THIS MONEY IS, WILL BE A FAIRLY LARGE DISTRIBUTION INITIALLY.
UH, AND UH, THEN WE WILL DISTRIBUTE IT ANNUALLY.
THAT'S OUR PLANS THAT WE'LL COME BACK AND START DISTRIBUTING IT ANNUALLY, PROBABLY, UH, AT THE END OF EACH CALENDAR YEAR.
SO THIS FIRST YEAR WE PROBABLY SHOULD WAIT UNTIL DECEMBER THE 31ST.
THAT WAY IT'LL GET US ON OUR CALENDAR YEAR AND WE CAN REPLENISH THE FUNDS AT THAT TIME AND THEN LET IT START BUILDING UP, UH, FOR, UH, FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT THREE VERY FINE ORGANIZATIONS.
UH, ALL OF YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO, THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, UH, AND I BELIEVE OUR DISCUSSION WAS IS THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THE MONEY EQUALLY THROUGH WAYS.
AND, UH, INSTRUCTED THE, UH, AUDITOR AND TREASURER TO ISSUE A CHECK AFTER FIRST YEAR.
WILL WE, WILL WE, UH, BE GETTING REPORTS AND GENESIS CENTER ABOUT HOW IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THEIR ORGANIZATIONS LATER DATE? I THINK WE COULD ASK THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION THAT THEY GIVE UPDATE PROBABLY AT THE END OF EACH BUDGET YEAR, UM, HOW THE MONIES WERE SPENT.
AND WE CAN SEND THAT IN A LETTER TO, I WOULD MAKE A NOTE OF THAT TO REQUEST.
DO THAT IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE THAT HERE.
WHAT'S YOUR ON ITEM NUMBER 16TH? ONLY QUESTION I HAD, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO READ BETWEEN THE THREE.
ONLY QUESTION I WOULD WOULD BE, WE, I ASK HOW IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT AND THIS IS THE ONLY THING THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR.
UH, I DUNNO ANY REASON TO SAY THAT.
IT, WILL IT CAUSE AN ACCOUNTING PROBLEM TO ZERO THAT ACCOUNT, THAT ACCOUNT OUT AND THEN GO BACK INTO THE NEW MONEY? UH, NOT REALLY.
IT'LL LOOK STRANGE THE FIRST YEAR COST BECAUSE WE'RE DISTRIBUTED SEVERAL YEARS AT ONCE.
BUT IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A SIGN, IT NOT A BOOKKEEPER SPLIT THE MONEY THREE AWAY FROM THE GENESIS SENATE, THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER IN COSTA 65,000 OR WHATEVER'S IN THE ACCOUNT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE AND UH, APPRECIATE YOU, UH, BEING HERE.
AND I GUESS I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON GIVING THE, UH, PURCHASING, UH, AGENT THE AUTHORITY FOR ANY NEW EXPENDITURES NOT TO EXCEED $25,000 AND ANY ONE PURCHASE ORDERING EMERGENCIES FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE APPROVING ALL.
I PROBABLY CREATED THIS MONSTER WHO, YEARS AGO, UH, WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, UH, I HAD THE ABILITY TO, UH, SEVERAL TRUST.
I WAS TOLD, YOU KNOW, ALREADY OUT A CO-OP, I ALWAYS HAD HEARTBURN IF I WAS BUY 10 CARS, VILLE AND THE COURT DISCUSSED, WE AUTHORITY BUY THIS AUTHORITY CO-OP.
SO I SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER THAT I NEVER LET COURT AT ALL TIMES.
WE SET UP A NUMBER OF 15,000 OVER THE YEARS, PROBABLY DOWN IN SOME AREAS.
I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO RAISE UP 25.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE STILL GONNA DO OUR, OUR JOB TO GET THE BEST PRICE.
I I I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, IF I FEEL THE NEED, I COULD STILL COME TO COURT.
ISN'T THAT ALSO HALF OF THE 15,000 AT THAT TIME? WASN'T THAT HALF OF THE STATE ALLOWED FUNDING? IT WAS 25 AT THE TIME WHEN WE CREATED 15.
SO NOW WE'RE ABOUT, WE'RE AT HALF NOW.
THE 20, WE RAISE IT THE 25 IT'D STILL BE HALF RIGHT.
WE'RE, WELL, I MAY VERY WELL BRING THINGS TO
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COURT, A SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT KIND, HANDCUFFS, IT'LL STILL BE ABLE TO KEEP CONTROL OF, UH, OF THOSE AMOUNTS.IF WE EVEN I ASK, UH, JOHN TO RESEARCH THIS, I THINK YOU FELT YEAH, HE'S IMPOSING A LIMIT ON HIMSELF.
MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN, THAN WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES.
BUT IF, IF YOU'LL WANT TO DO IT, THAT'S OKAY AND YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T MOVE THE CEILING UP.
BUT IF YOU WANNA TAKE IT DOWN, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S OKAY.
THE FACT THAT HE AGREES WITH IT MAKES IT LOT BETTER.
RIGHT? NOT BUT EVEN IF 25,000, IF WE NEED NECESSARY, GIVE YOU COMMISSIONER, IF YOU GENTLEMEN TRY TO BUY SOME OR SOME ONLINE OPTION.
CURRENTLY 16,000, KIND OF PUSHING A BINDER THAT POINT WELL ALSO MEETING EVERY TWO WEEKS.
SOMETIME THAT, UH, SOMETIME THAT MIGHT KNOCK YOU OUT OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, PURCHASE.
IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THAT TIME.
AND THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, I THINK, UH, IF THERE'S A MERCHANT THAT IS OVER 25, CALL JUDGE WHAT'S GOING ON? 15,000.
OTHER QUESTIONS? ITEM I WOULD MOVE THAT WE, UH, GIVE THE PURCHASING AGENT AUTHORITY NEW EXPENDITURE NOT TO EXCEED 25 ANY ONE PURCHASE OVER EMERGENCIES.
WE JUDGE BRIDGE WOOD APPROVING ALL EMERGENCIES.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON EMPLOYING OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY IN CONNECTION WITH THE COUNTY'S CLAIM RELATED TO THE MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRY SYSTEMS INCORPORATED, BETTER KNOWN AS MERS AND RELATED ENTITIES FOR OUTSTANDING FILING FEES AND DAMAGES IS ALLOWED BY LAW AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO ENTER INTO A FEE AGREEMENT WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
JOHN, I WOULD ASK YOU, BUT AS, AS THE COURT KNOWS, WE HAD VISITED ABOUT A POSSIBLE, UH, LAWSUIT, UM, AGAINST MERS AND A NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, PROSPECTIVE DEFENDANTS WHO WOULD BE FILED BY, UH, BY TWO LAW FIRMS AND THEN THEY EMPLOY OTHER LAW FIRMS IS NECESSARY DEPENDING ON WHERE, UH, IF IT WINDS UP.
UH, THE LAW FIRMS WOULD BE TED LYONS AND ALSO, UH, JIM BLOOM FIRM.
UH, BOTH ARE DALLAS FERNS AND THEY HAVE, UH, SEVERAL OFFICES.
UH, THE LAWSUIT THAT WAS DISCUSSED WOULD BE A COMPLETE CONTINGENCY ARRANGEMENT.
THE, UH, CONTRACT THAT WAS SENT TO US WAS INITIALLY 20% OR 25% AND WE HAVE A REVISED CONTRACT THAT'S 15%.
IT'S A NO COST PROPOSITION, FILING FEES AND DISCOVERY COST AND ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THE LAWSUITS.
WE DISCUSSED THE RELATIVE MERITS OF THE CASE AND GIVEN THE, UH, POSSIBLE, UH, PAYOFF OR SETTLEMENT, I THINK IT'S GOOD.
WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH LAST WEEK.
IF YOU RECALL WHERE WE HAD MEETING.
THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE COME IN, NOT ONLY HAS CONTRIBUTED TO OUR SHARP CALL THROUGH FEES THAT NORMALLY PASS THROUGH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, IT ALSO HAS CLOUDED TITLE PROPERTY OWNERS TITLES AS WELL.
AND JOHN, YOU MAY WANNA JUST DISCUSS THAT JUST FOR A SECOND, JUST BEFORE
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS, IS THAT IT'S AN ATTACK AGAINST
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THE SHADOW, UH, RECORDING SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN SET UP NATIONWIDE THAT ALLOWS COMPANIES THAT BUY AND SELL MORTGAGES TO RECORD THE MORTGAGES WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ANY OF THE COUNTIES THAT THEY DO INTERNALIZE OWN COMPUTER SYSTEM.AND THEREFORE THEY SAY THE FILING FEE THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH TRANSACTION AND, AND THE, UM, AND THE ACCOUNT LOSES, EACH COUNTY LOSES THAT HAS TRANSACTIONS.
UM, THAT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECORDED.
UH, BY THE CALCULATION THAT HAS BEEN DONE, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY, UH, 49,000 CASES THAT HAVE BEEN FILED USING THIS IN KAMAN COUNTY WITHIN ANTICIPATION THAT THERE ARE FIVE TO 12 SHADOW TRANSACTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE CASES.
THAT, AND BY SHADOW I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN SHADOWY, I MEAN THAT THEY WERE NOT RECORDED, BUT THEY WERE REPORTED INTERNALLY WITHIN THE ME SYSTEM.
AND ALL THOSE CASES HAD THEY BEEN FILED WOULD'VE RESORT OR RESULTED IN SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO THE COUNTY.
UM, AND, AND IT GOES BACK, I THINK TO 2002.
AND HOW COULD IT AFFECT, UH, JIM SMITH PROPERTY OWNER OUT THERE AS FAR AS HIS OR HER PARTICULAR TITLE TO THE, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
THE, UH, INITIAL MORTGAGE THAT MIGHT, UH, BE DONE MIGHT BE SOLD A NUMBER OF TIMES AND AT THE TIME THAT THEY GO TO SELL THE PROPERTY, THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT COMPANY THAT IS SERVICING THE DEBT PURPORTS TO OWN IT, AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CLEAR TITLE TO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT MAY REPORTED INTERNALLY AND NOT CAPTURED TILE COMPANY.
AND THE SAME PROBLEM CAN RESULT IN THE FORECLOSURE OF PROPERTY THAT THREATS, IT'S GOING THROUGH FIVE TO 10 DIFFERENT LENDERS.
IT'S BEEN PACKAGED, IT'S BEEN SOLD AS A SECURITIZED DEBT AND, AND YET IT'S NOT BEEN REPORTED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
SO IT'S, IT'S FESTERING PROBLEMS, PROBLEM HERE.
IT'S PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, SO IT'S A CHANCE TO GET AHEAD OF THAT.
SUBSTANTIAL MON OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MILLION.
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF IT, SO WE EXPECT A HEARING ON THIS, BUT IT PROBABLY WILL IN NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS I'M SURE.
LAURA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO IT? I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE COUNTY CLERKS.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED.
YOU YOU'D LIKE TO ADD THERE'S LIKE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY BYPASS THAT THEY SHOULD OWE.
TOP OF THE HAZARD PUT ON THE HOMEOWNERS.
JOHN, HOW MUCH OF THIS IS JUST RIGHT HERE WOULD BE DOLLARS? UM, THAT THAT IS NOT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE YET.
I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT I JUST DISCUSSED IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, BUT UH, BUT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE POSSIBLE DAMAGES, IF YOU KIND OF TAKE IT OUT, 49,000 CASES AND FIVE TO 10 OF THEIR TRANSACTIONS STILL INTO DISCOVERY.
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THIS COULD RANGE INTO THE, THIS COULD MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS COULD ATE COUNTY REVENUE COULD, AND THE CONTRACT WE'RE ENTERED INTO WITH THIS OUTSIDE LAW FIRM IS AT NO EXPENSE TO THE COUNTY.
OTHER DISCUSSIONS, OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. I HAVE A MOTION TO ACT ON THAT DESIRE.
SO MR. MAKES THAT MOTION DISCUSSION.
SAY, ALRIGHT, WE'VE BEEN UP HERE ABOUT AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES.