* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] WITH THE GIVE ME SOME SICK. YOU JUST WONDER HE'S HAD A RELAPSE OR ANYTHING. IIA HAS BUT NEVER HAD A RELAPSE. YOU JUST KIND OF WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM NOT BEING HERE SEVERAL TIMES. SEVERAL TIMES HE HAS BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL. WE HAVE A SIGN UP CHIEF. WE WANT DOMESTIC COURT. YOU NEED TO SIGN UP. SA BUTTON. MAKE IT RE REDO THAT ONE. YEAH, BOTH OF THOSE. I JUST LOOKED AT HIS, 'CAUSE I NEVER SAW MY ENVELOPE. I'M SURE MY BOSS LADY STILL GOT IT ON HER DESK. ANYTHING. HIS PHONES GOT THESE IPHONES AND WE DON'T HAVE A RED. I DON'T, BUT CARRIE, BECAUSE HE HAS AN IPAD. HE SAYS THE IPHONE. IPHONE. WELL, GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME TO, UH, OUR MONDAY MARCH 26TH, UH, 2012 MEETING OF THE, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE HERE. IF THERE IS SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HAVE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COURT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN THAT HERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING AFTER WE HAVE OUR OPENING, UH, CEREMONY. AND SO I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF HAS, UH, ONE HERE. IF ANYBODY ELSE, UH, HAS, WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, PLEASE GIVE THAT TO THE SHERIFF AND WE'LL, UH, UH, WE'LL INTRODUCE YOU HERE VOLUNTARILY. FIRST, WE WILL HAVE OUR INVOCATION, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING AND, UH, THEN, UH, HAVE OUR PLEDGE TO ALLEGIANCE TO BOTH THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG. SO IF YOU JOIN DOWN, PRAY OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVEN, FATHER COME TO YOU THIS DAY. THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER THAT YOU'VE SENT US AND THE RAIN THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WEEK. BLESS HIS FATHER AND GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND THE WISDOM TO DO, DO THE WORK OF THE CAN LORD. SEE OVER THE TROOPS THAT ARE OVERSEAS, PROTECTING OUR FREEDOM TO GUIDE THEM HOME SAFELY. THANK YOU, LORD FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US. AMEN. ANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH SETTING ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY, STRONG ON HONOR IGI IN ONE STATE UNDER GOD. FIRST PERSON WE HAVE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT IS, UH, TOMMY CLARK CHALK, I BELIEVE C-H-A-L-K. CHALK. YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP, I BELIEVE YOU LIVE IN CRANDALL. YES, SIR. AND COME UP, UH, HERE IN THE MICROPHONE RIGHT THERE. WE ASK YOU TO KEEP YOUR REMARKS TO MINUTES. MY NAME IS, UH, THOMAS I 87 72 HIGH DRIVE [00:05:01] IN THE CITY OF CROWN, TEXAS. ONE. MY COMPLAINT IS I, UH, CALLING HIM FOR, FOR THE COMMISSIONER OF, I UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS IN PRECINCT ONE. I WAS IN PRECINCT FOUR AND BEFORE THAT I WAS IN PRECINCT TWO. AND I CALLED AND SAID I WAS IN PRECINCT ONE. WHAT I WAS CALLING TOWARDS BECAUSE OF MY STREET THERE AT, UH, AT, UH, ON HY VIEW DRIVE AND ALSO CRA ROAD. SO IT'S GOT SO MANY HOLES AND BUMPS IN THE ROAD IS ALMOST, IT'S NOT THE FRONT END ISLAND, IT'S JUST HOT HOLES. YOU CAN'T HARDLY GO AROUND SO MANY HOLES. AND WE ONLY JUST HAD THAT. THE STREET WAS GOOD UP UNTIL, UP UNTIL PROBABLY ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO. AND, UM, AND IT SEEMED GETTING WORSE. I'VE CALLED IN SEVERAL TIMES, BUT I HAVE NOT GOT ANYONE TO RESPOND, UH, TO A REQUEST TO FIND, TO FIX THE STREETS WHERE WE CAN DRIVE ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UH, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA AND WE ARE NOT ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT THIS MORNING, BUT WE WILL ASK YOUR COMMISSIONER TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU, WORK, WORK THROUGH THAT. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET SOME CORRECT ADDRESS. NEXT PERSON IS, UH, MATT, PAUL, MARK, MATT, I BELIEVE YOU ASHLEY, ARE ON THE AGENDA. AND WE'LL ASK YOU TO HOLD YOUR REMARKS UNTIL THEN. LATER ON WE GET FILE NUMBER NUMBER NINE AND 10. SO, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO, WE HAVE AN ADDENDUM TO OUR REGULAR MEETING, UH, AGENDA THAT WENT OUT EARLIER. AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO REFER YOU TO ITEM NUMBER 18. AND, UH, THAT IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FROM HALAL JONES. AND I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE HALD LAST MEETING AS OUR COUNTY AUDITOR. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT YOUR LAST MEETING. YOU MAY WANNA COME BACK THIS WITH US, JUST, UH, JUST DURING BUDGET TIME. YEAH, DURING BUDGET. JUST GLAD HAVE HAL AND I BELIEVE KAREN IS HERE WITH YOU THIS MORNING. AND SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE BOTH OF Y'ALL. BUT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACT ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER. SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER JACKSON. DISCUSSION ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. UP. I'LL WALK AROUND. THERE YOU LEMME GET BACK HERE. LET ME READ THIS. UH, IT SAYS, IN RECOGNITION AND SINCERE APPRECIATION OF PAL JONES KAMAN COUNTY AUDITOR, WE EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR YEAR, YEARS OF SERVICE TO KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND THE CITIZENS OF COLTON COUNTY, TEXAS. IN YOUR POSITION IS COLTON COUNTY AUDITOR, AND THAT SIGNED THIS DAY, THE 26TH DAY OF MARCH, 2012, BY BRUCE WOOD, THE COUNTY JUDGE, AND THE COMMERCIAL WAS JERRY ROU, JC JACKSON AND RAY CLARK AND TOM MANNING HAS ALSO BEEN TO BY LAURA COUNTY CLERK. SO, UH, CONGRATULATIONS, SIR, ON YOUR WORK HERE AND WE WILL MISS YOU AND WISH YOU NOTHING. BUT NEXT ITEM IS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. AND, UH, I BELIEVE THERE WAS, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAD ANYTHING I COULD PUT OUT SOMETHING I, SOME INFORMATION FROM THE HISTORICAL CONDITION THAT WAS HERE ABOUT NEAR MOMENTARILY. UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND ITEM A IS EVENTS FOR MARCH 12TH, 2012. B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEWING ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH TEXAS ASSOCIATION COUNTIES PAYING ANNUAL VIEWS. C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEWING ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH THE NORTHEAST TEXAS JUDGES AND COMMISSIONS ASSOCIATION AND PAYING ANNUAL VIEWS. D IS TO CONSIDER AND, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING EXCESSIVE FORCE POLICY OR FOR RESOLUTION. E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING LOCAL OPPORTUNITY PLAN RESOLUTION. AND F IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION, ESTABLISHING A POLICY REGARDING A SECTION 5 0 4 WRITTEN CITIZEN GRIEVANCE [00:10:01] COMMITTEE. AND THOSE LAST THREE ITEMS WERE ON THE AGENDA LAST TIME AND WE PULLED TO LOOK FURTHER RESEARCH. AND SO I BELIEVE THE QUESTIONS AROUND THOSE HAVE BEEN, UH, ANSWERED. UH, BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEM ON THAT AGENDA THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEFORE WE DISCUSS, SIR? A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. JACKSON MAKES THAT MOTION. SECOND MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? OPPOSED. NEXT ITEM IS TO HEAR FROM BONNIE HILL, WHO WILL PRESENT THE KAMAN, UH, CASEY AABS 2012 PROGRESS PLAN 2013. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF UPDATE THE COURT A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT, UM, COMAN COUNTY ANIMAL AWARENESS DID LAST YEAR AND WHAT OUR GOALS ARE THIS YEAR. UM, WE PERFORMED A LITTLE OVER TO 10,000 SURGERIES LAST YEAR. UM, 93% OF THOSE ANNUALS WERE NOT ON, AND THEY'VE NEVER BEEN TO THAT ON BEFORE. SO 400 OR 4,563 OF THOSE ANIMALS CAME FROM LIN COUNTY. 98% OF THOSE WERE OVER FOUR MONTHS, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WERE NOT CURRENT ON THE S SO WE REALLY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF EDUCATING OUR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN CLIN COUNTY, THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR ANIMALS VACCINATED FOR BREEDS BY FOUR MONTHS. UM, 62% OF THOSE ANIMALS WERE FEMALES FROM COFFMAN, AND THEY WERE EITHER PREGNANT OR IN HEAT AT THE TIME OF SURGERY. 84% OF THE DOGS WERE LARGE BREEDS DOGS, WHICH COULD PRODUCE ANYWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN TO NINE PUPPIES PER LITTER, WHICH MEANS IF YOU LOOK AT KAUFMAN COUNTY ANIMALS ONLY THAT WE FIXED, HE STOPPED ABOUT 35,000 UNWANTED PUPPIES AND KITS LAST YEAR. UM, 200 OR 2,891 OF THOSE SURGERIES WERE PERFORMED FOR THREE FOR RESIDENTS ON GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. AND KAMAN CAPITAL 2,891. SO GENERALLY 33% OF OUR ANIMALS ARE NEEDED FOR COFFEE COMING. WERE RATED THIS LAST YEAR. 63% WERE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO THANK THE COUNTY, UM, COMMISSIONERS FOR HELPING US GET AN ADDITIONAL GRANT FROM THE STATE THAT GAVE US AN EXTRA FIVE $50,000 TO DO AN EXTRA 900 ANIMALS THIS YEAR. SO YOU'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I KIND OF WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S A LITTLE OVER, UM, 83,000 ANIMALS LIVING IN DOGS AND CATS LIVING IN COFFMAN COUNTY, UM, WITH PEOPLE WHO LIVE UNDER THE POVERTY LEVEL. SO WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE HERE IN COFFMAN COUNTY. UM, OUR GOAL IN 2012 IS TO PERFORM 12,000 SURGERIES. WE'RE ALREADY ON TARGET TO DO THAT. WE'VE PERFORMED OVER 3000 SURGERIES SO FAR THIS YEAR. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY KIND OF WANTED TO TALK TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABOUT IS THAT I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING A SHELTER HERE IN KALIN COUNTY, WHICH I DO BELIEVE IS VERY IMPORTANT. HOWEVER, UM, IT'S GONNA, IT'S VERY COSTLY. UM, AND SOME OF THE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY TO BRING IN AN ANIMAL, KEEP IT IN A SHELTER FOR THREE DAYS AND EUTHANIZE, IT COST ABOUT $156 PER ANIMAL WHERE YOU CAN STAY A UTERINE ANIMAL FOR ABOUT 51. SO IT'S A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT, AND IT'S A LOT MORE HUMANE IF WE CAN REALLY EDUCATE OUR PUBLIC ON HOW IMPORTANT IT'S TO SPAY AND NEUTER. AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVE OUT TO THE COUNTRY AND THEY THINK THAT THEY CAN HAVE AS MANY ANIMALS AS THEY WANT AND THEY CAN LET THEIR ANIMALS RUN LOOSE. BUT WE'RE THE 21ST FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW. SO WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE ANIMALS RUNNING LOOSE AND CONTINUING TO MULTIPLY, RUNNING THE STREETS, GETTING RUN OVER. I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE TO KIND OF MOVE INTO THIS CENTURY. WE'RE NO LONGER A HUGE FARMING COMMUNITY. I MEAN, YOU COULD LOOK AT 40, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY NOT A FOREIGN, A FARMING COMMUNITY AT ALL ANYMORE. AND WE REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A REALLY BIG BELIEVER IN ADVANCING ALL THESE LAWS. 'CAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO ENFORCE 'EM. AND THE SHERIFF DOESN'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO ALL THAT. BUT I MEAN, WE DO HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY ON WHY THEY CAN'T LET THEIR ANIMALS RUN LOOSE. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW ON HERE IS THAT, UM, 71% OF THE ANIMALS THAT CAME IN TO BE FIXED WERE MIXED FREE DOGS. I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST MONTHS THAT ARE LIVING ON THE STREET. THEY CONTINUE TO MULTIPLY 'CAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GET 'EM FIXED, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST THAT THEY DUMP ON THE STREETS AND THEY LEAVE THEM ALONE. AND WE NEED TO START EDUCATING SO THAT WHEN YOU DO OPEN A SHELTER, YOU'RE NOT JUST HOUSING 10,000 ANIMALS AND KILLING THEM. I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT. I MEAN, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND EDUCATE OUR PUBLIC ON PROPER POPULATION CONTROL. AND SHELTERS ARE NOT BAD. SO, UM, [00:15:01] BUT THAT'S KIND OF OUR UPDATE. UM, THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO MORE EDUCATION PROGRAMS. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND WAS, IS THAT ACTUALLY OUR OLDER POPULATION IS DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB OF STAYING AND NEUTERING. AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE EDUCATING ALL THESE YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE YOUNGER PEOPLE COMING UP, WERE GONNA BE OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA MAKE THE CHANGE. AND WHAT WE FOUND TO DOING THE SURVEYS, IT'S NOT TRUE. I MEAN, 25 TO 33 YEAR OLDS ARE THE WORST PEOPLE FOR STAYING NEUTERING WITH PETS. SO WE HAVE THIS HUGE, A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO MAKE IN THE NEXT YEAR WITH OUR EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO OUT AND YOU DO TALKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU CAN START TALKING ABOUT THE FEDERAL POPULATION BECAUSE I MEAN, WE DON'T WANNA SPEND $2 MILLION A YEAR ON AN ANIMAL SHELTER. I MEAN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, OUR TAXES ARE HIGH ENOUGH FOR US TO DO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO AT THIS TIME. UM, AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO, OF COURSE, SINCE WE'RE I'M HERE, UM, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ANY KIND OF FUNDING THAT THE COUNTY MAY IN THE FUTURE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US ALL OF OUR FUNDING. RIGHT NOW WE WRITE GRANTS. UM, OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE OVER, UM, $1.5 MILLION AND ABOUT $700,000 OF THAT HAS TO COME THROUGH GRANT ONE. SO, UM, WE AT THIS TIME HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY MONEY EVER FROM THE COUNTY. UM, GAVE US A THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT'S ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE FROM, UM, ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, THE BUSINESS. SO, UM, WE THINK THAT THIS IS A MORE HUMANE WAY AND THE FASTEST WAY TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEM, NOT JUST HOUSING ANIMALS FOR THREE DAYS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL JUST GO AHEAD. PARDON ME? GO AHEAD. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT AND I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU DO TREMENDOUS WORK AND I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE ANIMALS YOU CAN SERVE, BUT I THINK, I CERTAINLY AGREE, I WOULD ASSUME EVERYBODY UP HERE PROVES THE IDEA IS BETTER DOING IT THIS WAY THAN TRYING TO BUILD ENOUGH SHELTERS. AND, UH, AND THEN IT'S CERTAINLY MORE HUMANE. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. UH, BUT IT IS A, AN EVER ENDING BATTLE. AND, UH, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ADVERTISE YOUR SERVICES? I KNOW YOU DO SOME NEWSPAPER ARTICLES AND YOU DO, HOW, HOW CAN WE HELP, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? WELL, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR, UM, THE WAY THAT WE GET OUR WORD, WE DO SEND OUT PRESS RELEASES WHENEVER WE HAVE SPECIALS. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL BELOW OUR REGULAR LOW COST. UM, BUT IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING IN, YOU KNOW, WATERVILLE AND WE'VE TALKED TO TRINITY VALLEY AND THEY'VE DONE THINGS FOR US BEFORE. UM, BUT I MEAN, IT'S REALLY NOT COST EFFECTIVE FOR US TO DO A MAIL OFFICE ARE SO EXPENSIVE TO DO. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THE COUNTY ROUTINELY MAILS OUT, IF YOU HAVE, I MEAN, WE DON'T NORMALLY GET ANYTHING, ANY KIND OF NEWSLETTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT MAYBE YOU COULD POST IT ON YOUR WEBSITE, UM, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE CERTAINLY CAN PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S QUESTION AT ALL ABOUT THAT, UH, AN IDEAL TIME TO IT. BUT WHEN WE SEND OUT OUR TAX, WE CERTAINLY DO THAT. WE'D NEED TO HAVE THOSE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, FIT THE ENVELOPE FOR THAT. THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER GOOD WAY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS MAYBE SOMEHOW, AND MAYBE WE CAN HELP GET THAT DONE, IS MAIL OUT WATER BILL IF IT'S, SOME OF 'EM JUST MAILED OUT AS A POSTCARD, SO THEY COULDN'T DO THAT. DO IT ANOTHER WAY. I THINK ALL OF US MAY HAVE IDEA OF WHERE WE COULD GET THIS OUT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST A MUCH BETTER WAY. HOW MANY, HOW MANY ANIMALS COME FROM OUTSIDE ACROSS COUNTY? YOU HAVE, WELL, LAST YEAR SINCE WE DID 10,012 SURGERIES AND 4,563 OF THOSE WERE KALIN COUNTY. SO PROBABLY ABOUT 50% OF THE ANIMALS THAT WE SERVICE ARE OUTSIDE OF KAMAN COUNTY. SO, UM, I WILL SAY THOUGH THAT THIS COMMISSION, THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS BEEN THE MOST SUPPORTIVE COURT THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS. AND YOU, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE TRULY APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS GET IT, . I MEAN, IT'S REAL, BEEN REALLY HARD IN THIS RURAL AREA FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, SPAN HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. AND I'VE BEEN REALLY HAPPY WITH THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE HAD COMING COURT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER MAIN, YOU GET IT? YEAH, I COMMENT, UH, SHOOT ME THE FIGURE AGAIN ON THE TOTAL NUMBERS OF SURGERIES. 10,000, 10,012 LAST YEAR. 10,012. OKAY. AND 4,563 OF THOSE WERE FROM KAMAN COUNTY. CORRECT. AND 202,891 OF THOSE WERE FOR FREE. CORRECT. AND THE RESIDENTS DO HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE ON SOME TYPE OF GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE TO QUALIFY FOR THE FREE SURGERY SO THAT, OR THEY OWN MULTIPLE PETS, WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON OUT HERE. I MIGHT, UH, I KINDA HAD A LITTLE IDEA WHEN I READ THIS COMING UP ON THE AGENDA. I WONDER IF WE, WE COULD, YOU COULD RATTLE A SMALL PARAGRAPH WHEN WE PRINT OUR FLYERS FOR THE [00:20:01] CAN CLEANUP BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY GOT PEOPLE CALLING WANTING THOSE FLYERS, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . AND, AND, UH, MIGHT HAVE RALPH, HE SAID HE'S GONNA PRINT THE FLYERS FOR US, MIGHT HAVE RALPH PUT IN THERE. YOU KNOW, UH, THEM JUST A, JUST A LITTLE SHORT PARAGRAPH ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS, WHAT HOURS YOU'RE OPEN ON DAY, BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF THOSE FLYERS GO OUT AND BASICALLY BID, UH, LITTLE OR NO COST. RIGHT. AND AND RALPH IS RALPH. OH, RALPH. YEAH. THEY'LL BE PRINTING THOSE PRETTY PRETTY SOON. OKAY. I'LL FOLLOW TODAY. AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, THAT, UH, EDUCATION IS, IS THE WAY TO GO. I MEAN, UH, I ENCOURAGE IT AT EVERY, EVERY CHANCE I GET, UH, TO, FOR PEOPLE TO BE AWARE THAT HAVING A MESS OF PUPPIES ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR IS NOT THE THING TO DO BECAUSE IT COST THE COUNTY MONEY. THEY WANT, THEY WANT THE COUNTY RUNNING EFFICIENTLY. AND, UH, IF THEY, IF THEY DO THEIR PART, IT MAKE IT MAKE IT EASIER ON US AND EVERYBODY ELSE. SO I COMMEND YOU FOR, FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU DO. AND I DO THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOES COST, THAT IT DOESN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T JUST FIND HOMES FOR THOSE PUPPIES IN THE COSTCO AWAY. IT COSTS THE COUNTY A LOT OF MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM. SO, WELL, I WANTED TO LEAVE EACH OF YOU A CARD, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL IDEAS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD CONTACT ME AND LET ME KNOW SO THAT YOU COULD GET THE WORD OUT. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF UPDATE YOU ON WHERE WE'RE AT. AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING WITH THE GRANT LAST YEAR. IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN OUR COUNTY. YES. GOT YOU. UNDER OATH. OKAY. , I THINK YOU'LL, YOU'RE VERY MUCH WORRIED THE INTEREST I'VE GOT OVER THERE IN YOUR OPERATION, I GUESS, UH, I WROTE TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT AREAS, UH, HOW DO WE WORK ABOUT ON THIS EDUCATION PROCESS? WELL, I THINK REALLY, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS, 'CAUSE WE JUST, WE JUST DID THE PHONE SURVEY TO KIND OF FIND OUT WHERE COTON COUNTY IS AND WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SOME OF THE, THE TWO MAJOR THINGS THAT POPPED UP IN THE SURVEY WERE THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT STRAYS AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ANIMAL CRUELTY. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW IS WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP A CAMPAIGN BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CONNECTING PET OVERPOPULATION WITH THOSE TWO TREES. THEY'RE NOT CONNECTING THAT BECAUSE I DON'T SPAY NEUTER MY PET. 'CAUSE ALSO MAYBE FOR SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE DIDN'T SPAY N THEIR PETS, BUT THEIR MAIN CONCERNS ARE STRAYS AND, UM, ANIMAL ABUSE. SO THEY'RE NOT CONNECTING THEIR ANIMALS HAVING PUPPIES TO THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH, UM, ANIMAL SUFFERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF DEVELOP A CAMPAIGN TO ADDRESS THOSE AND GET PEOPLE TO CONNECT SPAY NEITHER OR TWO, THE THE PET OVER POPULATION AND STRAY PROBLEM. SO THAT'S OUR FIRST, I MEAN THAT, THAT WAS OUR FIRST REAL AHA WAS, OH MY GOSH, THEY DON'T EVEN GET , THAT PET OVER POPULATION FROM NOT STAYING IN UTERINE IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY STRAYS. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT CONNECTION AT ALL. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CONNECT THEM AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE 25 AS EVERY THREE YEAR OLDS, THAT'S WHAT THEY LIVE ON, IS THEIR MOBILE CELL PHONES AND THEIR LITTLE IPODS AND IPADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DEVELOP IS SOME TYPE OF CAMPAIGN LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TOGETHER. THAT'S PROBABLY THE LARGEST PORTION OF THE POPULATION TOO, THAT 25 TO 33 RIGHT. HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET TO THEM. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. WELL, UH, IF YOU WILL CONTACT MY OFFICE, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET WITH OUR IT DIRECTOR. MAKE SURE WE GET THIS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE. AND THEN WE CAN ALSO SEND A MAILER OUT OR NOT MAIL. WE CAN INCLUDE WITH OUR PAYCHECK WITH COUNTY EMPLOYEES. MAKE SURE OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES WELL NOTIFIED AND UH, WE WILL UH, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO WORK IN THAT REGARD. IT'S, I MEAN IT MAKES TOTAL COMMON SENSE. THIS IS THE DIRECTION, AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR YOU, YOUR GROUP DOES WE, WE NEED TO SUPPORT RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE FUNDS PRETTY TIGHT, BUT WE GET BUDGET TIME. WE'LL I'M SURE COMMISSIONER CLARK AND COMMISSIONER NOT TRYING DO SOME LIKE BUDGET TIME, CONSIDER FUNDING FOR NEXT YEAR. NEXT MAYBE WE NEED TO AIRMARK FOR EDUCATION EFFORTS TO SOMETHING COME BACK WITH WHAT YOU NEED TO GET THAT EDUCATION OUT THERE BEFORE SUMMER WORKING ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER THING. [00:25:01] IT'S DOWN LIKE THE JAIL. IT'S A LOSE PROPOSITION. WE'RE NOT GOING, THAT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I BELIEVE I'VE HEARD THAT, UH, THIS CITY NOW SPEND 50 MILLION SHELTER THAT WOULD ELIMINATE REDUCE THEIR PROBLEM BY QUITE A BIT IF THEY, HOW MANY PP YOU SEE? WE ELIMINATED OVER 35,000, 5,000 SOMETHING. JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE, THIS, THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GO. IT WOULD SAVE SOME MONEY. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT DO SOMETHING. SO THIS, THIS MAY BE THE VERY BEST ROUTE YOU GO. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT A MOTION. ALL FAVOR. AYE. AYE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO HEAR FROM OUR FIRE FROM MARY EY. UH, WE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR FIREWORKS STAND TO CURRENT COST TO EXPECT THAT HE ALSO HAS ITEM FIVE, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT FOUR FIRST BRING UP TO DATE. WE STARTED THE FIRE IN 2006. SO FAR THERE'S BEEN UH, ALMOST 94 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECT VALUE. THAT'S THE COUNTY'S 600 TRANSACTIONS. WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS, OF COURSE WE DID IT ON SOME BASIC COST STUDIES AND UH, BACK THEN WE WERE USING UH, BIG DOLLARS AND $100 ON FIREWORK STANDS. THAT'S $50 FOR THE WALKUP THREE PIPE STAND AND $100 FOR THE WALK IN INDOOR STANDS. AND UH, YOU'VE NOTICED ON THE BOTTOM DOWN THERE, I'VE CHECKED THAT WITH FIVE OTHER COUNTIES AND THIS, UH, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WE'RE WELL BELOW EVERYBODY ELSE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND UH, DUE TO THE RISING COST THAT WE ALL INCUR EVERY DAY AND JOB TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORK, WE GENERALLY MAKE AT LEAST ONE SITE VISIT AND SOMETIMES TWO OR THREE BEFORE. CORRECT. ALTHOUGH WE DO ON THE THIRD TIME GOING OUT. CORRECT. WE DO CHARGE THAT FEE ALL OVER AGAIN. THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS WE'RE AWARE OF IN THE BEGINNING. BUT THE 20, THE 5,100 THAT WE'RE CHARGING RIGHT NOW IS JUST NOT COVERING THE OF US GOING OUT THERE. I'D LIKE US TO GET MORE IN LINE WITH AND THE STATE AND UH, CHANGE THAT TO THE OUTDOOR STANDS BEING A $100 FLAT FEE GOING FOR THE INSPECTIONS AND THE INDOOR STANDS WOULD BE A 200 FEE. AND AS YOU CAN FEEL, I THINK WE FALL MORE IN LINE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE AND MAYBE RECOVER SOME COSTS THERE. OFFSET THE FUEL REQUEST FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE I MAY MR. ROUTE MAKES THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND, MR. ANY SECONDS? ANY OTHER DISCUSS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A THOSE ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS ALSO FOR MY PRIOR MARSHALL AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REQUESTING, UH, TO CHANGE THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR FOSTER HOMES FROM 25 TO 50 FOR THOSE WITH ONE THROUGH SIX CHILDREN AND $50 TO HUNDRED FOR FOSTER HOMES, UH, FOR A LARGER AMOUNT. UH, SAME BASIS AS FOR THAT AFTER REVIEWING THE OTHER AREAS. AND OF COURSE, UH, WE'RE HAVING MORE AND MORE FOSTER HOME INSPECTIONS IN OUR COUNTY, UH, TO BE AVERAGE OF, UH, ONE OR TWO EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS COMING IN. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE PRESENT THEM WITH A LIST OF ITEMS THAT BE BASED ON THE STATE'S CRITERIA OF THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN THEIR HOME BEFORE WE COME OUT. UH, FIREWORKS, I MEAN, UH, FIRE EXTINGUISHERS NEEDS TO BE GRASS AT LEAST TWO WAYS IN AND OUT, ONE WAY OUT. DETECTOR SMOKE ALARM, NO HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS, JUST THE NORMAL THING. BUT IT'S A PRETTY EXTENSIVE LIST. AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY DO THAT INSPECTION. AND WE HAVE BEEN CHARGING $25 FOR THE ONE TO SIX CHILDREN AND BIG DOLLARS FOR THE GROUP SEVEN TO 12. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S NOT COVERING OUR COST OF HAVING TO GO OUT AND DO IT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE FALL MORE LINE. I HAVE TWO COUNTIES DOWN THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM, HARRISON MONTGOMERY, WHICH ARE BOTH CHARGING $50 AND HUNDRED, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO COST ON THE INSPECTIONS. UH, WE'RE PRETTY STRICT ON THAT INSPECTION, JUST AS, AS YOU COULD IMAGINE. I MEAN WE WE'RE NOT GONNA LET ANYTHING GET BY. SO THOSE ALSO SOMETIMES REQUIRE MULTIPLE SITE VISIT EVEN AFTER OUT THERE WE'RE SHORTCOMING COMES TAKING [00:30:01] CARE OF THOSE KIDS. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE RAISE THOSE OFF $50 FOR THE ONE TO SIX AND 100 FOR THE SEVEN. TWO THREE QUESTION FROM THERE. ARE THESE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS, THEY'RE SEMI-ANNUAL NOW. THE STATE'S CHANGED THE SEMI-ANNUAL. THEY WERE ANNUAL. SO WE'RE, WE PROBABLY RIGHT NOW HAVE 50 TO 75 HOMES IN THE COUNTY ITSELF, DEPENDING ON TIME GOING ON ON AVERAGE, HOW MANY? WE TRY OUR BEST TO DEAL WITH 'EM IN THE OFFICE. THAT'S WHY WE GIVE THEM THE SHEET THAT SHOWS EVERYTHING. BUT I'M GONNA SAY PROBABLY ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE REQUIRES AT LEAST A RETURN TRIP BACK OUT IF NOT 50% OF THEM BECAUSE THEY JUST WON. INTERPRET IT THE WAY YOU AND I WOULD AND WE'LL GET OUT THERE AND SEE. SO AS I SAID, WE'RE WE'RE REAL PARTICULAR, WE'RE GONNA LET THAT ONE STEP BY UNLESS IT WAS DONE. HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'D RATHER MAKE THE SECOND TRIP, MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT OR WE'RE GONNA OKAY. IT, I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT, THAT YOU DO MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES. YES SIR. WE CERTAINLY THAT'S WE'RE AND THESE PHASE ARE THAT YOU WANT, THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THERE THEY'RE COMPETITIVE WITH THE SURROUNDING CANS. YES. OR THEY'RE THEY'RE ABOUT ABOUT THE SAME. YES SIR. ABSOLUTELY. ACTUALLY THEY'RE THE SAME AS HARRISON MONTGOMERY COUNTY YARD. I UNDERSTAND EACH, EACH COUNTY HAS ITS OWN ABILITY TO EVEN HAVE THESE INSPECTIONS THAT WAS PART OF OURS ON THE LIVE SAFETY 1 0 1 WHENEVER WE TOOK THIS OVER FOR THE, UH, BUILDING PERMITS. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE DO IT. OTHER COUNTIES MAY NOT DO IT AT ALL IN WHICH THEN A STATE AGENCY WOULD'VE TO BE ONE RESPONSIBLE TO COME IN AND DO IT. IT FALLS UNDER US. OUR 1 0 1 LIFE SAFETY WE ADOPTED. IS THERE ANY MECHANISM FOR A HARDSHIP WHERE SOME PEOPLE MAKE THOSE LARGER ? I DON'T THEY COULD AFFORD THAT. VERY WELL BE DOING THAT. BUT ON THE SMALLER ONES THAT IF YOU ONLY GOT ONE FOSTER CHILD, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHT AND I AGREE WITH, BUT NOT AT THIS TIME. THERE'S NOT ANY KIND OF VARIANCES. I MEAN IT'S STRICTLY EVERYBODY PAY THE SAME. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO DRIVE, MEASURE THE LEGITIMACY OF THAT. YOU, IS THERE A MECHANISM OR WHY WE COULD INSTITUTE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE JUST HAVE TO RESEARCH IT. COMMISSIONER, I REALLY DUNNO HOW WE WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT THEY, OR WHETHER WE'D BE LEGALLY ALLOWED. WE'D HAVE TO RUN IT BY MR. LONG THROUGH THE, I GUESS WE PROBABLY DO FOR FREE IF WE WANTED TO, BUT WE CAN'T. IT'S UP SOMETHING. AND, AND HONESTLY, I MEAN I I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT $50 IS I I BELIEVE IN THE RESEARCH WE'VE DONE THAT FOR EACH CHILD A HOME GETS THAT THEY TAKE CARE OF THAT THEY GET ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN TO $800 EACH PER MONTH. THIS IS A ONE TIME EVERY YEAR PROCESS. SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER 25 VERSUS 50 MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE OR NOT. I'M NOT CERTAIN ON THAT OTHER QUESTION. FIRE MARSH NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTION OBJECT. MAKE A MR. MANNING SECOND MOTION. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN A FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. THANK YOU SIR. AND, UH, BEFORE MR. MURPHY COMES UP, I HAD THIS WRITTEN DOWN AND I KNEW OF IT, DID IT AND I STILL FORGOT IT. THAT IS TO INTRODUCE MEMBERS TODAY OF THE KAMAN COUNTY LEADERSHIP GROUP. AND IF YOU HOPE STAND LET US RECOGNIZE YOU. SOME OF YOU HAVE YOUR BRIGHT RED ON AND OTHERS OF YOU HAVE BLACK, YELLOW. SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU. WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, THEY WERE AT KAMAN COUNTY DAY LAST MONDAY, I GUESS AT THIS TIME. AND, UH, THIS IS OUR NEWEST GROUP. LAURA HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM. LAURA, YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, UH, ABOUT THIS GROUP? I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN MILDLY INVOLVED WITH IT. THIS IS A, A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. THEY HAVE PICKED A PROJECT FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO RAISE $9,000 WORTH OF FUNDS TO ENLARGE THE KITCHEN AND GIVE THEM A NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART CONVECTION OVEN. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY'RE, THEY MAY BEAT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN. THEY'RE WORKING REAL HARD AND WORKING AS A TEAM AND I THINK THEY'VE REALLY ENJOYED THE CLASSES SO FAR. AND THEY COME NEXT MONTH HERE AND THEY GET AN A PLUS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. IT'S A REQUIREMENT. , [00:35:01] WELL INTRODUCE YOUR, INTRODUCE YOURSELF SO EVERYBODY KNOW WHO YOU'RE I'M KIM JOHNSON, BUSINESS MANAGER AT KIM IC I'M DON O RILEY, THE DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I'M CINDY STORMS. I'M A MOUTH ASSISTANT WITH THE VILLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. I'M SCOTT, I JUST GOT RETIRED. SORRY, I FORGOT TO DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING MEETING. BUT, UH, NEXT ITEM MAY BE ITEM NUMBER SIX. THAT'S TO HEAR FROM MY TAX COLLECTOR. MONTHLY REPORTING. FEBRUARY. GOOD MORNING. MORNING I PASS OUT CORRECTIONS. THEN UH, THE SECOND PAGE IS A HISTORIC ACCUMULATION TAX COLLECTIONS PERCENTAGES. YEAH, JUST NEW REPORT. NEW REPORT. THEN UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE. NO, I DIDN'T CHANGE THE MONEY, JUST THE PERCENTAGES WERE BACKWARDS. ANY RATE ON THE GENERAL FUND THROUGH THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, WE'VE COLLECTED 26.6 MILLION OR 92%. AND AS YOU LOOK AT THAT HISTORIC PAGE, THAT 92% IS A HISTORY RECORD PERCENTAGE THROUGH THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. AND EVEN IN THIS BAD ECONOMIC TIMES, WE CAN REALLY BE PROUD OF CA COUNTY TAX PAYERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE COME, WE'RE 92% ROSE BRIDGE. WE'VE COLLECTED A LITTLE OVER 3 MILLION AND UH, I'M LOOKING HOPING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE HIGHER THAN OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. THE QUESTION I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UH, AT THE TAX ROLL OR I'M SORRY, THE DELINQUENT TAX ROLL. YES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DELINQUENT TAX ROLL ON THE, WE SHOW LAST YEAR, 2,048,000 2 64 THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY. AND LOOK AT THIS YEAR WE'RE ONLY AT 5 42. SO WE STARTED OUT THIS YEAR WITH LESS DUE THAN WE DID LAST YEAR. THE PERCENTAGES ARE THE SAME. I SEE THAT. SO YOU'RE NOT ALARMED ABOUT THAT. WELL, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, JEFF. NOT HERE, DON'T BE PUTTING JEFF ON THE SPOT, BUT, UH, I MEAN IT IS, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE. YEAH, BUT THAT'S, WE COLLECTED MORE THE ORIGINAL TAXES AND TURNED HERE OVER TO, THAT'S THE BALANCE TO GO. SO THAT'S GOOD THAT IT'S LESS ANY, I JUST WANT POINT THAT ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. PERFECT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE PERCENT. NO, WE HAVE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROW. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY, NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. THAT IS TO FEBRUARY 12. YOU HAVE QUITE A CHECK QUESTION. HOW DO WE STAND JUST BRIEFLY LOOKING OVER THIS, HOW DO WE STAND AS COMPARED MONEY IN THE I EXPENSES FROM YEAR SO FAR DOWN, WHICH [00:40:01] IS STILL REMARKABLE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ALL 12 FURLOUGH. THAT'S A GOOD SIGN. BUT WE HAVE A 50 OR SO FEWER EMPLOYEES TOO. SO THAT, THAT, THANK YOU. OVERALL, EVERYBODY TOLD YOU ACCESS? NO QUESTION. THE OUTSIDE AUDIT REPORT IS UNDERWAY. I UNDERSTAND YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE. UH, NOW COME IN HERE TODAY. HERE, I GUESS GUESS NOW AT YOUR OFFICE. BE AGREED. SECOND, THERE'S STILL LICENSE QUESTIONS ABOUT SALARY CHANGES AND THE FACT , I I, WE'LL DISCUSS IT THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT SHELTER. CALL ME BACK HERE IS ON QUESTION. DID I HEAR YOU WRONG? YOU BEEN CALLING ME? NO. WELL, WELL LET'S, IF YOU CALL ME I CPA I TAKE JOHN. OH, OKAY. ANOTHER MEETING. OKAY, LET'S ATTENTION. LET ME SWEAT THERE. ALL ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHNNY ON THE REPORT? THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE WHAT IF POINT. I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROW. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING. TOM MANNING MAKES IT NOT JUDGE. SECOND SET MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THREE APPLICATIONS FOR APPOINTMENT TO TON COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO SERVE OUT VACATED TERMS, UH, 2012. WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. I BELIEVE WE PROVIDED EVERYBODY. I DO. WHICH WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS FIRST? UM, GO AHEAD AND DO THE, UH, THE APPLICATIONS ON ALL. OKAY. AS REQUIRED BY OUR BYLAWS, WE REMOVED FOUR MEMBERS FOR NON-ATTENDANCE AND WE HAVE THREE NAMES TO SUBMIT WHO HAVE SIGNED THE APPLICATIONS AND, UM, SUBMITTED YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU INFORMATION FOR WHO IS THE RESIDENT OF COMAN FOR BRIDGET LAMBERT. SIMONS A RESIDENT OF, RESIDENT OF, WE WERE HOPING TO FIND SOMEONE FROM CORN. WE, WE DON'T HAVE WORK REPORT IN THAT AREA. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME, SO MR. MARK, TRY TO ASSIST THEM IN. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THREE COMMISSIONERS? THIS WOULD BE JUST 12. YES. OKAY. NO, I READ ALL THOSE APPLICATIONS AND EVERYBODY SEEMS VERY INTEREST. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND ACCEPT COMMISSIONER AND I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CLARK? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. AND WE, THE FOLKS, THE COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR APPLICATION FOR TEXAS 10 MOST ENDANGERED PLACES LOOSE. AND WE'RE PROUD TO GO DOWN TO AUSTIN THIS WEEK AND ACCEPT THAT DESIGNATION AS ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE ACTUALLY RIGHT ON TEXAS 10 MOST ENDANGERED PLACES. AND WHAT WE HOPE THIS WILL DO FOR US IS GIVE US ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES AND THE EXPERT RESOURCES THAT WE'LL TAKE TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND IT'LL GIVE US THE NATIONAL BIG TEXAS AND LOCAL ATTENTION THAT WE NEED FOR THIS SITE TO BE PRESERVED. UM, THE SITE OF JOINS THE VETERANS WORLD, WE HOPE TO HAVE AN INTERPRETED HISTORICAL SITE WORTHY OF BEING A TOURISM DESTINATION IN COCHRAN COUNTY SO THAT OTHERS CAN WANT THE UNIQUE HISTORY OF THE LAST PORT IN TEXAS. STILL OPERATED, STILL OWNED BY THE COUNTY. WELL, AND I BELIEVE JAMIE, Y'ALL MIGHT WANNA BRAG A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO. I BELIEVE SHE SAID, UH, [00:45:01] UH, THE APPLICATION WAS THE BEST APPLICATION THEY HAVE EVER SEEN. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVER, BUT IT WAS THE BEST THEY'VE SEEN IN THE GROUP THEY GOT THIS YEAR. OKAY. WELL LET'S JUST SAY EVER , WHY NOT REALLY IMPORTANT. AT LEAST WE WERE THE FEATURED. YEAH, RIGHT, THAT YOU NEED THIS PICTURE BACK. WE, IF Y'ALL WANT, WE CAN DO ANOTHER. WE CAN, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER, WE CAN BE HAPPY TO KEEP THIS ALONG THIS ALONG THIS ARTICLE TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK, SURE. YES. ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER NINE. I'M SORRY, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. NO, ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND ACCEPTING A REPORT FROM MATT HALLMARK WHO IS HERE WITH US THIS MORNING. MATT, IF MATT, IF YOU WANNA COME FORWARD WITH TRINITY MATERIAL REGARDING COUNTY ROAD THREE 14 AND COUNTY PRECINCT THREE. I BELIEVE THIS JACKSON ABOUT THIS IS THAT NOT MUCH RESEARCH AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT, AND MATT, WE'VE GOT YOU ON VIDEO AND ALL THE . OKAY. I SHOULD HAVE, I SHOULDA HAVE, UH, COMB MY HEARING. WELL THE, UH, A, UH, TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS AND THEN PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY THROUGH, UH, UH, THROUGH COMMISSIONER JACKSON. THE, UH, SPECIFICATIONS INCLUDE, UH, AN ASPHALT OVERLAY AND THEN ALSO CONCRETE FOR THE TURN IN PORTION OF CATEGORY THREE 14. UH, WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS THIS FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, THE COUNTY TO APPROVE THE SPECIFICATIONS AS, AS PROVIDED. UH, WE WILL OBTAIN THREE BIDS FROM THREE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS AND PROVIDE THOSE BIDS BASED ON THESE SPECIFICATIONS, UH, TO THE COUNTY WITH A, UH, WITH A CHECK FOR THE LOWEST COST BID SO THAT THE COUNTY CAN PROCEED WITH, UH, WITH THE OVERLAY, UH, AND THE CONCRETE AS, AS SPECIFIED IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE SPECIFICATIONS. THE LAST TIME I THINK WE SPOKE, UH, THE COUNTY WAS, WAS AMENABLE TO, UH, TO PROCEEDING, BUT, UH, HAD REQUESTED THAT THAT A, UH, AN ENGINEER PERFORM THE DESIGN AND, UH, COME BACK AND PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THE COUNTY FOR APPROVAL. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. IT REPRESENTS THE, UH, ENGINEERS DESIGN FOR THAT ROAD. AND SO WE SEEK, UH, APPROVAL AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH, WITH GIVING ALL MONEY SO THAT, UH, SO THAT THE COUNTY PROCEED WITH FIXING. I THINK, I THINK THE LAST TIME YOU WAS HERE, YOU WAS HERE, UH, I DON'T THINK YOU HAD BEEN, THIS HADN'T BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE APPROVED RIGHT. THERE, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS. ONE, ONE WAS, UH, ONE WAS THE COMPONENT OF IT NEEDED TO BE DESIGNED BY AN ENGINEER. AND THEN, UH, ON MY SIDE, UH, GETTING APPROVAL THROUGH OUR, UH, CORPORATE OFFICES TO PROCEED WITH IT. I RECEIVED THAT APPROVAL AND NOW I'VE COME TO YOU GENERALLY TO, UH, SEEK TO, UH, GET CONCURRENCE FROM THE COUNTY TO PROCEED. AND THIS IS ACCEPTABLE IN TERMS OF SPECIFICATIONS AND THIS, IT'S GONNA BE DONE IN TEXT SPECIFICATIONS. I BELIEVE THESE ARE ALL TEXTILE ATIONS. I, I DUNNO THIS, THAT'S WHY WE HAD AN ENGINEER PUT IT TOGETHER AND PROVIDE IT TO YOU GUYS. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IN MEET ARE REQUIREMENTS THE TESTING OF THE MATERIAL FOR THE, IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE, UH, UH, THERE PLAN? THERE IS, UH, IF I'M NOT CERTAIN MISTAKEN, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR IT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, IF THE TESTING ITSELF IS A REQUIREMENT OR IF IT'S AT THE, UH, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNTY, I COULD NOT TELL YOU THAT'S VERY TYPICAL FOR ENGINEERING DESIGNS. I'M CERTAINLY THINK WE WANT IT TO BE. SO, AND THIS IS APPROXIMATELY [00:50:01] A THOUSAND FEET, UH, FROM THE ENTRANCE TO THE CRUSHER, DIDN'T IT? HIGHWAY, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT SEVEN, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ENTRANCE INTO THE CRUSHER AREA, I BELIEVE. MM-HMM . AND WHAT, HOW ARE YOU GONNA HANDLE THE, DURING CONSTRUCTION? HOW ARE YOU GONNA ONE HALF AT A TIME OR SOMETHING? HALF THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY WE PROPOSED TO DO IT. NOW CONCRETE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE UH, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO A CONCRETE TURN IN AND OUT. YEAH. UM, SO FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WHAT WE'RE NEED TO DO IS PULL ONE SIDE AND TO THE OTHER SIDE AND, AND THERE'S SECURE TIME AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY THE CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF. SO, AND, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW Y'ALL WOULD, YOU KNOW, WANT THEM TO DO THAT. UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY I'M PROPOSING IN THE WAY WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING IT SO THAT, SO THAT THEY'RE BEHOLDEN TO YOU GUYS AND HOW Y'ALL WANT IT TO BE PERFORMED. RIGHT. VERSUS HOW I WANT TO PERFORM. SO, BUT NORMALLY WE JOB SIDE, UH, MY QUESTION IS, UH, YOU HAVE A CONCRETE ENTRANCE TO TRINITY AND ALSO YOU GONNA PULL CONCRETE ON THREE 14 WHERE THE FIRST COME OUT. RIGHT. OKAY. THERE'S JUST, AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH WHAT THAT, WHAT THEY KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IS ALL OF THREE 14 FOR THE SECTIONS FOR THE TURNOUTS WOULD BE CONCRETE AND THEN BASICALLY APRON INTO THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, THAT WERE COMING OUT. YOU SAID AP I BACK, I IN THE OF TRINITY, THIS CONCRETE REASON I'M ASKING, IT TRACKS A LOT. ROCK, WHITE ROCK AND UH, WHEN IT RAINED, IT KIND OF, UH, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A SHORT DISTANCE. WE WERE LOOKING AT CRAWL LIKE 10 FOOT INTO THE PROPERTY AND STUFF DOESN'T MATTER. NO, SIR. SO IT'S GONNA BE YOUR, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THAT CLEAN? PERSONALLY, I BACK FOOT. OKAY. AND, UH, TRY TO ATE A LOT. THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS I HEAR THE MOST OFTEN IS THE FIELD AND THE RESIDUE THAT IS LEFT ON HIGHWAY 80, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BETTER DOWN. BUT YOU GO BACK INTO YOUR KNOW, YOU HAUL ROCK, ALL KINDS OF WEATHER AND THINGS THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN CO OTHER COMPLAINTS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AND, AND TRUST, WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH ON, UH, AND SOME OTHER PROPERTIES AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN, UH, ON THESE OTHER PROBLEMS. WE HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY TALKED TO ABOUT THREE 14 BECAUSE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING. BUT UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP IT SWEPT AND TO KEEP IT CLEAN IN THAT MANNER VERSUS TRYING TO, UM, COME IN AND PAY FOR ALONG THOSE LINES. AND THEY'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM ON A NUMBER OF FACILITIES THAT WERE SIMILAR. OURS, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE HIGHWAY ABOUT 34. AND UH, SO THAT'S WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN TO US. OKAY. OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS SAYING, SAID THE COUNTRY JUST GONNA BE GOING TURN WHAT GONNA TURN OFF THREE 14 INTO YOUR PROPERTY, THE REST ROAD IS GONNA BE ASPHALT. IS THAT CORRECT OR? YES. UH, THE REST OF THE ROAD THEY USING NOW WHEN THEY COME OUT ON, COMING OUT FROM APPROACH THREE 14 WILL BE WHERE, WHAT ALL THE TRAINING. IT'S GONNA BE MORE TERRIBLE. DAMN IF I'M WRONG, DOES THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTRY GONNA BE NOW? HOW, I DUNNO THE NEED, YOU NEED PLAN'S GONNA START STOP AT YOU THINK? WELL, WE CAN, I GUESS WE CAN PUT ONE TOGETHER AND THIS IS YEAH, CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. THIS IS GONNA TAKE MORE TIME. YOU UH, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHERE I DO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE SCHEMATIC THAN I COULD SHOW YOU. SO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS THE TERM RADIUS. SO WHEREVER [00:55:01] THE TIRE START TO TURN IS WHAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT. SO WE PUT ONE TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE. WE DEFINITELY NEED THAT RADIUS TAKEN CARE OF AS THE ATTORNEY COMING OUT. HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU THINK I, I'VE VENTURE SURE NOT TO SAY BECAUSE THE ENGINEER ON THIS TOOK ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. SO YOU CAN SEE HE DATED IT IN FEBRUARY. THAT'S HOW LONG HE TOOK. AND I, I GOT WITH HIM SOON AFTER WE HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER, TOOK THAT FIRE. TRUST ME, I DID 10 FEET INSIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY. THAT'S FOR MORE THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY ENDS TO 10 FEET INSIDE YOUR PROPERTY. SO IT WOULD BE, UH, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE RADIUS, THE RADIUS WILL GO FROM THE CENTER OF THE ROAD TO THE COUNTY, END OF THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN 10 FEET INSIDE YOUR PROPERTY IS THAT, AND THAT'S PROB PROBABLY NOT 10 FEET INSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE WE, WE WOULD, WE'D MAINTAIN IT WITH, UH, WITH ROCK ON THE INSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY. SO 10 10 FOOT FROM THE EDGE OF THE, EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE ON THE COUNTY PROPERTY WOULD BE CONCRETE. THAT'S PROBABLY BETTER WAY TO PUT IT. I DON'T, BUT YEAH, PERSONALLY I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT OF PEOPLE GO BACK, UH, TO TRY TO, I WENT DOWN THERE AND WELL, I I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY KEEPING IT CLEAN BECAUSE EVEN, EVEN LARGE DISTANCES, I MEAN, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUDGE WOOD EVEN MENTIONED IT WHERE, YOU KNOW, SEE STUFF COMING ON HIGHWAY EIGHT THAT'S 850 FEET. I MEAN YOU COULD, SO CONCEIVABLY YOU COULD PAVE ABOUT 850 FEET INTO THE PROPERTY AND YOU'D STILL GET TRACKING OUT ON THREE 14 AND THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S, AND I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN THE FACTS OUT'S MOUTH, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE, THEIR SUGGESTION WAS YOU JUST NEED TO KEEP IT CLEAN AND KEEP IT SWEAT. AND SO WE PUT A SWEEPER OUT THAT, UH, UH, TO, TO SHOW BETWEEN OUR, OUR THREE FACILITIES OUT THERE TO DO THAT. OKAY. NOW HERE'S MY PORTION. THE ROAD AT THIS POINT IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED OUT. SO YOU WANT TAKE THIS BACK, YOU TAKE ANOTHER MONTH OR SO, TWO MONTHS OR SO, I THINK YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH OUT. SO COME BACK IN AND YOU CAN'T PUT DROP ON. THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL DONE ALREADY. YOU PUT DROP ON, YOU CAN'T, SO ASPHALT SOMETHING, BUT YOU GOTTA FIX THIS TO THE POINT WHERE THESE PEOPLE CAN GET IN AND OUT AND NOT, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TO BE DONE NOW, IF YOU CAN'T START THIS PROCESS, LET ME, LET ME SEE IF, IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ON THAT. I NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT KIND OF ACTION BE PLACED ON PERSON. I HAVE A COMMENT, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. UNDERSTAND, CORRECT ME IF YOU GUYS CHECK, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED THERE. WE'RE ACTING AS, YOU KNOW, A CUSTOMER THERE WHETHER REQUIRE TO MEET, MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER INSURANCE MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS BETTER FOR VENDOR PAID DIRECTLY, OR PAY DIRECTLY TO THE VENDOR TO KEEP US OUT. IF WE DO, WE MAKE SURE ALL REQUIREMENTS AND THAT THAT'S WHAT WE, WE'VE COME ORIGINALLY TO ASK FOR. WAS ONE OF THE BOIL PLATES ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR INSURANCE? OKAY. I, I OBJECT. I THINK IT'S BEST THAT, UH, TRINITY JUST TAKE THE WHOLE PAY FOR THE, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE GOING AND TURN WRITE A CHECK AND THEN WHERE THE CUSTOMER WE NEED CALL, YOU KNOW, [01:00:01] COUNTY DOWNLINES. MAYBE LET LOOK AT THAT. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YEAH, I THINK THAT THE MUCH, THE EASIER WAY TO GO AND, AND THAT WAY THAT KEEPS US OUT THE LOOP. ARE YOU AN ENGINEERING? YES SIR. OKAY. WHAT'S BEEN CONFERENCE? I HAVE TO LOOK IN THERE. I BELIEVE IT'S 3000 PSI. WHERE, WHERE WOULD IT SAY THAT IT WOULD BE UNDER ITEM 30 50. 30 50. 30 50. YES. AND WHAT, WHAT NUMBER IS IT ON PAGE FOUR? PAGE FOUR, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING AT? IT'S GOT FOUR DIFFERENT, IT'S GOT FOUR DIFFERENT DESIGNS. FOUR DIFFERENT, FOUR DIFFERENT DESIGNS IN THERE. UH, DOESN'T HAVE A, IT DOESN'T SAY WHICH ONE'S SUPPOSED TO BE USING FOUR. DIDN'T HAVE A STROKE ON IT. THE 5.25 MIX. IT'S GOT A, A MINIMUM STRENGTH OF 3000 POUNDS. THAT'S, THAT IS VERY LACK. THAT TYPE, THAT CONVERTED BROKE 4,500, 5,000 POUNDS. SAY WHICH ONE SUPPOSED TO BE USING IN THIS? I DO. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT THAT MUCH DETAIL TO SEE IF IT, IF IT REFERS TO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. LIKE I SAID, I, I ACTUALLY JUST HAD AN ENGINEER PULL THESE UP, SO I'M, I'M SORRY. I DON'T, I COULDN'T UH, POINT YOU TO IT. UM, TYPICALLY WHAT I NEED TO IS SPECIFY THE STRENGTH OF THE SLUMP AND THE TEMPERATURE OF NINE. YES SIR. AND I DON'T SEE THAT FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN JUST THUMB THROUGH IT. I DIDN'T SEE IT. IT'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT, IF IT SAYS SOMEWHERE IN HERE THAT'S CALLING OUT FOR A CLASS A CONCRETE OR, OR NOT. WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR, YOU WANT TABLE THIS UNTIL WE GET SOME THESE QUESTION JC BACK. JC I THINK, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE THESE THESE ANSWERS. YEAH. WE NEED TO TAKE DO SOMETHING TEMPORARY. YEAH. ON A TEMPORARY BASIS UNTIL WE DID THIS RESOLVED. MA'AM, WOULD YOU DO THAT AS FAR AS GETTING A TEMPORARY PASS UNTIL WE GET SOME OF THESE GENERAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED? UH, SIR, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND THEN MAYBE WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MAYBE GET YOU TO MEET WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON AGAIN. AND RAY, WOULD YOU MIND MEETING WITH THE THREE OF THE THREE OF YOU GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS THIS AS WELL AS ITEM, UH, YOU KNOW, ITEM 10, WHICH ARE TIED IN TOGETHER ANYWAY, JUST TABLE BOTH OF THEM. WE WON'T GET THE WORK DONE. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE GOT GETTING IT DONE. BUT TO CUT OUT ANY AMBIGUITY, WHATEVER, IT'S JUST A GOOD IDEA AS FAR AS TO GET EVERYTHING. SORRY THAT YES, SIR. AND I UNDERSTAND AND, AND FROM OUR STANDPOINT ALSO, WE WE'RE INTERESTED IN THE LIABILITY ASPECT AND SO SURE. UM, IN TERMS OF PATCHING, COULD WE LOOK AT HAVING THE, UH, THE COUNTY PATCH IT AND THEN US REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE PATCH? OTHERWISE, I, WE NEED, WE SHOULD BE PROVIDED WITH WHAT THE WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR, UH, FOR LIFT LIABILITY STATE WITH THE COUNTY PRIOR TO PATCHING. OKAY. SO IF WE COULD DO THAT VERSUS WE'D BE HAPPY WITH PERHAPS PURCHASING MATERIAL AND BRING IT OUT THERE FOR SOMEONE TO LAY IT OUT OR WHATEVER. I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T WANNA FALL INTO THAT IN THAT SITUATION AGAIN ON LIABILITY SIDE. OKAY. SEBASTIAN ADVISED TO ACCEPT DONATION, I HAVE TO WORK OUT. IS THAT CORRECT [01:05:05] AGENDA? WE COME BACK, DO THAT THE NEXT, NEXT QUARTER. MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPLETELY SURE. WHEN IS THE, WHEN IS THE NEXT, THE NEXT COMMISSIONER'S MEETING IS NINTH, MONDAY, APRIL TWO WEEKS. OKAY. AND WHEN, WHEN WOULD I NEED A DRAWING IN BY, IN ORDER TO GET THAT ON? IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU COULD GET IT TO US BY THEN. UH, AS SOON AS YOU CAN. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO. BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY THE MEETING NEEDS TO BE HELD BEFORE YOU, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL CLEAR WITH COMMISSIONER, MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING, UH, EXACTLY LIKE WE WANTED TO IF POSSIBLE. OKAY. AND, UH, JUST CONTACT COMMISSIONER JACKSON AND HE'LL HAVE SIT THAT, GET THAT SET UP. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK, UH, COMMISSIONER. THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SLOW PROCESS AND UNFORTUNATE PROCESS AND UH, AND HOPEFULLY THE LIGHT IS, IS AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL. WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD TO SEE WORK. UH, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE STARTED, UH, SOON AND, UH, BE, BE A GOOD FOR FOLKS TO LIVE ON THREE 14 AND ALSO FOLKS DRIVE BACK AND FORTH ON HIGHWAY 80 WEATHER. BY THE WAY, LEMME MENTION WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APRIL 9TH, WE'RE GOING HAVE A SPECIAL, THE MEMBERS OF THE TEXAS HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WILL BE HERE THAT, UH, TALK ABOUT THE, UH, UH, GATEWAY, UH, THE COUNTY WOULD PLAY TO THE NORTHEAST TEXAS AREA. THERE'S A GROUP THAT IS LOOKING AT TRYING TO IMPROVE THE INTERSTATE 20, UH, ALL THE WAY FROM LOUISIANA TO UH, UH, INTO DALLAS. AND, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE TO DISCUSS WITH US, UH, OUR PARTICIPATION. THAT IS COMMISSIONER JEFF AUSTIN. AND WE, UH, HE WILL BE HERE THAT MORNING. WE'LL HAVE THEM ON THE AGENDA AT VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE GOT A MEMBER OF THE HIGHWAY COMMISSION HERE IN OUR COUNTY. AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET IN HERE A LITTLE EARLY, AROUND NINE OR SO TO HAVE A LITTLE SHARP RECEPTION BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS. AND SO, UH, JEFF, WE'LL HAVE YOU GET UP PRESENT FRONT OF ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF HIGHWAY. A GOOD EXPERIENCE. GOOD. YEAH. BUT HE WILL BE HERE AND THEY WON, COME ACROSS. THEY WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS NOT ONLY INCLUDES INTERSTATE 20, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES RAIL PART OF THAT. WELL, SO WE'LL TRY TO GET EVERYBODY HERE AND I'M GONNA INVITE THE MAYORS OF EACH OF OUR COMMUNITIES TO ATTEND, CAN ATTEND AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A, HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT THAT DAY. WE'LL DO THAT HERE IN OUR, UH, IN OUR COURTROOM ANYWAY, BACK TO ITEM NUMBER NINE AND NUMBER 10. WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT UNTIL WE GET A FEW MORE DETAILS FROM BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS. A MOTION TO TABLE NINE. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, JACKSON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MAIN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE. ALRIGHT. THANK MAD APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER REQUIREMENT FOR A ROAD O BRIAN ENERGY NAME IN COUNTY AS INSURED, UH, THE COUNTY ROAD 3 53, 3 55 AND 3 56. AND, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER JOB IN PRECINCT THREE, UH, THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, JACKSON'S BEEN DEALING. UH, AND IN, UH, D REGARD, UH, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OIL WELL, AND THIS IS GONNA BE A COMBINATION OIL AND, UH, NATURAL GAS. WELL THAT HAD BEEN DRILLED IN OUR COUNTY IN MANY YEARS. I MEAN, I CANNOT REMEMBER THE, THIS, UH, WELL WILL BE DRILLED. I BELIEVE IT'S 6.2 MILES NORTH OF TERRELL, UH, OUT TOWARDS THE APRIL SPRINGS COMMUNITY. AND, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, JOHN, UH, JC AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JOHN ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL REQUIRE A BOND. AND IT, UH, IT APPEARS THAT IT WILL REQUIRE BONDS. UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT JOHN HAS, UH, GIVEN US FOR ANY DAMAGE THAT MAY OCCUR TO COUNTY ROADS. THE, THE FUNDS WOULD BE, UH, UH, PAID DIRECTLY TO THE, UH, COUNTY FOR, UH, 183,159 AND 36 CENTS. AND THE, UH, COMPANY O'BRIEN, WHICH BY THE WAY IS I WAS FREE FOR, IS CERTAINLY WILLING TO PUT UP THE BOND. UH, JC YOU HAVE ANYTHING? [01:10:02] NO. THAT, NO, THAT WAS THE THING. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I GOT A PROBLEM WITH, I'VE NEVER DONE ONE BEFORE. RIGHT? IT'S KIND OF NEW TO ME, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE THEY, THEY OF THAT RIGHT. QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYBODY HERE FROM O'BRIEN ENERGY. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE, THERE IS, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT UP THE BOND SO THEY CAN GET STARTED AND UH, WE JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THAT DONE. SO, UH, AGAIN, THE AMOUNT, 180 3 9 9 36 COUNTY PREFER AS OF TODAY. I'VE TAKEN PICTURES, I'VE TAKEN, I'VE TAKEN PICTURES OF THOSE BEFORE THEY A WHAT'S YOUR APPROVED O MAKING MAKING TO THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF THREE 50 QUESTIONS. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S HOPE TO FIND ALL AND GAS. THERE'S NOT MORE DRY HOLES I UNDERSTAND, BUT THIS NEW TECHNIQUE THAT THERE MAY BE, WE NEED, I THINK LESS THAN ONE HALF 1% OF OUR TAX ROLL INCLUDES OIL PLATE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING WE WISH THEM WELL. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 12 TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, ON ADVERTISING BIDS FOR WASTE HAULING FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY CLEANUP DATE. YEAH, BUT THIS IS THE, UH, BID WE DO ANNUAL FOR THE CONTRACT MATERIAL. AND WE'LL BE CLOSING THAT BID ON, UH, MONDAY, APRIL 2ND AT 2:00 PM AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRE-BID TODAY AT TWO O'CLOCK IN SOUTH CAMPUS. UH, QUESTIONS JACK, THIS TIME IS APPROACH. HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT, UH, HIS RECOMMENDATION. ALRIGHT, JERRY, JERRY MADE THE MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. I, YEAH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT, GOOD. ALRIGHT, EDDIE. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RELOCATING A PUBLIC RESTROOM IN THE CORN FORECAST. THAT'S MR. CLARK REQUEST? YES SIR. SHERIFF, DID JOE DON STEP OUTSIDE THERE? I WANTED TO HEAR HIS THOUGHTS ON THIS. I TOLD HIM HE'S GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK SO HE IS ONE OUT THE BACK DOOR RIGHT BEFORE THE GATE . WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS AMOUNT TO IS THAT, UH, WE HAD JOE DON SECURITY BILLS OVER THERE AT THE COURTHOUSE, UH, ABOUT ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR. WHERE THEY COME INTO THAT SCENARIO, IS THAT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF SOME GOOFBALL CAME IN THERE AND DID THIS, DID THAT, AND HOW, HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT PROTECTING YOURSELF, PROTECTING THE JUDGE, PROTECTING OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COURTHOUSE, WHAT YOU NEED TO BE DOING THAT'S LIKE EMERGENCY FIRE DRILL? WELL, ONE OF THE, UH, SCENARIOS THEY SET UP LAST YEAR WAS THAT, UH, NOT BE THE COURTHOUSE OVER THERE. UH, WE PUT IN A SECURITY DOOR BETWEEN WHERE THE MONEY IS AND THE GIRLS ARE AND THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH THERE, BUT PUBLIC BATHROOM IS BEYOND THAT SECURITY DOOR. SO IN ORDER LET THE PUBLIC USE THE RESTROOM, WE HAVE TO LET GO BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THERE, WHICH IS NOT THAT BIG OF A BILL, TO THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT WE DISCOVERED IN OUR SECURITY DRILL WAS THAT SOMEBODY COULD GO BACK THERE AND KNOCK, COME BACK OUT AND THEN BE HIDING BACK THERE IN THE HALLWAY, IN THE CLOSET AND WHATEVER CAUSED DAMAGE, WHATEVER. AND SO IT, IT WAS A CONCERN THAT THERE WAS NO, NO SCREEN [01:15:01] OR ANYTHING BETWEEN THEM AND THE GIRLS AT THE JP OFFICE AND THE UH, TAX OFFICE, THERE IS A ROOM THAT COULD BE MADE INTO A PUBLIC RESTROOM IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT PUT THE ADDITION OF ONE 10 FOOT WALL. THERE'S A CLOSET UP THERE THAT COULD BE MADE INTO, UH, A UNISEX BATHROOM HANDICAP THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR, FOR THE RESTROOM. SO THE PUBLIC COULD JUST COME IN AND USE THAT, THAT RESTROOM. IT WOULD INVOLVE TAKING OUT THE SAW, SEE THE CONCRETE PARKING LOT TO GET TO THE SEWER, WHICH IS LOW ENOUGH IN THE BACK TO GET THERE. I DID HAVE A PLUMBER COME OUT SOMEWHERE IN THE, AND GIVE AN INSTRUMENT ON IT. WE PROBABLY BIDS ON IT AND DON'T SAY WHAT TO GIVE ON IT, BUT I ANTICIPATE WHOLE GOD THAT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, SIX, $6,000 OR SO, PLUMBING, THE AIR CONDITIONING AND A WORK WE THERE AND THEN WE SAW THAT PROBLEM. BUT IT IS JUST, IT IS ON A COURT COURTHOUSE AND TO ME IT'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ON, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT THAT. AGREE IT IS A GOOD THING OR BAD THING. WE WILL, UH, THAT'S YOU'RE JUST WANTING TO GET THAT ON THE ITEM TO GET IT APPROVED SO WE CAN START THE PLANNING AND DOING THAT. YES. I GUESS WHAT THE BIDDING AND STUFF LIKE THAT ON TO APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION OF BID CONSTRUCTION AND THEN BECAUSE IT, THE PRICE COME IN A LOT MORE THAN, THAN EVERYBODY NEEDS IS NECESSARY. UH, THAT THAT'S BIG CONSIDERATION. YES. SO IN OTHER WORDS, RIGHT AT THIS POINT THE RESTROOMS ARE BEHIND WHERE THE CLERKS ARE THAT'S HANDLING ALL THE MONEY. YES. SO FOLKS HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THAT. YES SIR. AND YOU'RE GONNA MOVE IT TO THE FRONT WHERE THEY WON'T HAVE TO RESET SECURITY GO BEHIND ANY SECURITY DOORS. I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT SOME OF OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE WORK THAT I HOPE THEY CAN DO MOST OF THE WORK THAT WE TRY WITH EXCEPTION, BUT LIKE DIG THE DITCH. WE, UH, ONE Y'ALL MAY HAVE A, A CONCRETE SAW. I'M NOT SURE, BUT IF NOT, ALRIGHT. YOU HEAR THE, UH, REQUEST FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT? I'D LIKE TO MOVE. WE ALLOW UH, LA TO GO AHEAD AND, AND PERSISTENT PRICES ON THIS AND IF THE PRICES COME IN AT A REASONABLE NUMBER, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. SECOND. HAVE A MOTION. SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THE OPPOSED. SHERIFF, COULD YOU GET JOHNNY AND COUNTRYMAN TO COME IN? YES. UH, IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE WE, UH, TAKE A BREAK HERE, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO THE, UH, ITEM THAT WAS ON THE ADDENDUM. ITEM NUMBER 17. AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPOINTED AND SECONDARY, UH, AUTHORIZED SIGNATORY FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE. AND, UH, ALL OF YOU'RE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT, UH, THE AUDITOR'S POSITION IS STILL OPEN WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL IN THAT REGARD. UH, BUT, UH, WE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR TREASURER HAD RECOMMENDED AND I BELIEVE IS A GOOD IDEA, IS TO HAVE A SECOND TO THE PERSON INTO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AUTHORIZED TO SIGN AS NEEDED. I FOUND OUT THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE THIS IN OTHER COUNTIES AND IT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD IDEA. JOHNNY WAS ONE THAT ASKED US TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA. ON THE AGENDA AND, UH, THEY DISAPPEARED. JUDGE. I BELIEVE HE LEFT THE BUILDING. OKAY, WELL, AT ANY RATE, THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM JOHNNY, UH, THE TREASURER AND, UH, HAVE A SECOND PERSON IN THE OFFICER'S OFFICE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN AUTHORIZED SIGNATORY JUST IN CASE WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICER IN PLACE BECAUSE NEXT MONDAY WE'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY SIGN CHECKS AND PERSON THAT TAX OFFICE. SO THAT'S PRETTY WELL THE EXPLANATION THAT I HAVE. I DO THINK [01:20:01] IT'S A NEED BE MY RECOMMENDATION. QUESTIONS. ATORY FOR A SECONDARY ATORY, WE HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ALL SAY I, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S TAKE A FEW MINUTES FOR A BREAK. WE'LL START BACK AT 11 O'CLOCK. LISA? [01:26:40] YES. HELLO? UM, THE, UM, I DUNNO WHO PUT THEM IN THAT WAY. I'M COMING IN ON THE END THREE, BUT, UM, THE, IN THE NUMBER I WROTE, THE PL WHATEVER, THAT'S THAT, IF YOU PUT THAT IN THE INSTRUMENT NUMBER, THEN IT POPS UP. YES, THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE PUT IN. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT STAND WHERE IT CAME FROM. I IDEA JUST TO GET 'EM ALL IN THE SYSTEM. ON THE OLDER ONES THEY JUST, THEY JUST SCAN A ONE PAGE COVER SHEET AND NOW I'M GOING BACK AND ATTACHING THE ACTUAL MAP TO COVER SHEET. THE SYSTEM RESUBMIT PAPER TODAY, SO I'LL SEE. BUT THEN WHEN I WENT ON THERE AND SEARCHED, I FOUND THOSE, UM, AT 50 NUMBERS. THE DUPLICATES WHAT SYSTEM ATTACHED TO A COVER PAGE. WHEN YOU GO TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT RECORDS, DO YOU SEE IT? AND I THOUGHT MAYBE IT'S LINKED TO IT SOMEHOW. I, [01:30:31] I ALL LIKE WHEN I SEARCH, SEARCHED ALL DOCUMENT TYPES AND I TAKE THAT CHECK MARK OFF DIDN'T HAVE ALL THAT LIST OF DOCUMENT TYPES IN THERE AND I WENT THROUGH AND SELECTED THOSE SIX TILES FOR CLASS AND JUST BETWEEN JANUARY, UM, YOU HAVE AN AMENDED CLASS, YOU HAVE A PARTIAL VACATION CLASS, CLASS, SUBDIVISION CLASS, SURVEY CLASS AND VACATION. THERE MANY, I DUNNO. ONCE I'VE SELECTED THOSE, I AM SORRY. IS OFFICER CORRECTLY, WE'LL CALL THE COURT BACK AND UH, ITEM NUMBER 14, DISCUSSION. CONSIDER LIE ITEM. YES SIR. THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 12 $50 FOR MILEAGE MEALS IN LODGING. THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE SHERIFF'S FUND MOVED 5,000 FOR GAS AND OIL AND TRAINING, EDUCATION CONFERENCE, CHILDREN'S SHELTER, MOVING DOLLARS IN PERSONAL CARE SUPPLIES TO TRAINING EDUCATIONAL CONFERENCE BRIDGE ONE MOVED 10,000 FROM MATERIALS TO ACTUALLY HELP THESE, UH, PRESENTED [01:35:01] BY THE, UH, AUDITOR. ASK ANY QUESTIONS TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. UH, FROM THE JACKSON MOTION AND COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS, I'M NOT MEMORIZ A LOOK AT IT. HONOR ONE. I LOOK AT THE WELL WHEN THE LAST TIME I THINK IT TRO WALKTHROUGH. YES. YOU KNOW THEY HAD THE, THE UH, METAL DETECTOR HAD TO GET ANOTHER STYLE BECAUSE WHERE IT WAS AT, BACK TO THE STREET FROM THAT AND YOU MOVE THE OLD ONE WHERE IT'S, IT'S SET TO PICK UP THE METAL. STAND BY METAL [01:40:06] FROM 2 22 UNTIL THREE 10. THAT'S JUST, YES, I WAS UP REALLY DOING OKAY. YOU'RE DOING GOOD. GETTING OLDER. THIS GETS BETTER BY THE WAY. LAST AND HE HAS 56 CASES DEAL. I HOPE SIX YEARS. [01:45:33] THERE'S, IT'S A DC GENERATOR. DIARY OCCURRENCE, NOT AC. IT'S NOT A OCCURRENCE. IT SHOULD, WE TURNED IT ON. IT RUINED EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN A MOTOR KICKED ON THERE WAS NO IT CAN'T DO SOPHISTICATED COMPUTER STUFF. ELECTRICITY. ELECTRICITY. WE'D OUGHT BE ABLE TO RUN EVERYTHING. NOT GOOD. PUT PROBABLY PUMP. WE PUT IT IN THE, [01:50:26] AND THEN WE GOT FOR SEVEN YEARS. THAT'S NOT MAN, THAT'S JERRY. WHAT THAT JERRY, WHAT IS THAT? HEY, THAT GUY WAS IN HERE THIS MORNING. HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE HE WAS. HE PRECINCT ONE, TWO. HE A TWO AND FOUR. FOUR. YEAH, BUT THE ROAD DROVE IN ON WAS TWO . IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FOUR. LUCKILY ONE. THANK GOODNESS GOTT. IT WAS GOOD LAST TIME. I APPRECIATE, SAYS THIS. I GOT COMPLAINING. GO BACK AT THE SAME TIME. NEVER AFTER THAT INCIDENT WITH JERRY. EVERYBODY WAS THAT'S WHAT I GET THAT THREE TIMES A WEEK. I SAID JUST GO RIGHT. I SAID I GOT A FRIEND THAT KNOWS A REPORTER. HE CAN TOUCH IT TO JUST SERVE THROUGH THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW. YEAH, BUT WHEN DID HE SERVE UNTIL THE END OF THAT FULL TERM? WHO? JOHN. JOHN. UH, HE SAID HE JUST UNTIL NOVEMBER. WELL HE WILL, HE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE UNTIL UH, SOMEBODY DETERMINES WHEN THE JP THAT'S IN THERE IS APPROVED AND THEN THE COMMISSIONER WILL WANT ANOTHER JP JUST THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION. NOT HIS FULL ATTORNEY. WELL I READ, WELL WAIT A MINUTE THOUGH THEN THAT PUTS THEM ON AN OFF SCHEDULE. BUT IT'D JUST BE BEFORE IT DOESN'T EXPIRE. TERM WOULD BE FOR FOUR YEAR TERM. IT WOULD BE FOR FULL TERM THREE YEAR TERM. WELL WE CAN JUST REAPPOINT THAT SAME GUY. I HAD ONE OTHER PERSON THAT HAS CONTACT ABOUT, SAID, JOHNNY TOLD ME ONE TIME THAT WHEN HIS TERM WAS UP HE STILL, FOR SOME REASON HE NEEDED I GUESS THIS TAKE CARE OF MOST OF THAT. IT'S, BUT IT'S BACK THREE WEEKS FOR THE [01:55:47] GET A BLONDE. WAY MORE EXCITING. JERRY, WE FINISHED A LONG TIME BEFORE. WE'RE JUST BEING THOROUGH. SIGN OFF. THEY, THEY HOLDING YOU UP. NOW WE GET TO THE END. SAVE 1810 . IT'S A BOX. I FIND THAT 10 TIMES. OH DID, OH YEAH. DID I HAVE SUNGLASSES? SUNGLASSES STILL OF COURSE BOTH OF WENT, I DON'T DUNNO IF BOTH OF THEM WENT OUT HAD OR NOT. I HAD ABOUT A DOZEN BEFORE THEY REAL CLOSE HAD SOME. THE YELLOW JACKETS ARE UP HONEY. KILLER ME TO KILL. KILLER. WHAT IS IT? I IT YOU COULD? YES. PROBABLY BETTER. TWO, THREE MILES AN HOUR. THAT'S AS FAST AS I COULD JERRY LIKE FLY FASTER THAN, SO DOES HAVE TO DO ANY INSPECTIONS ON THAT BRIDGE ON BUILDING [02:00:05] BEAM BEAM ON DELIVER DECK AND FRIDAY OR THIRD. SHOULDN'T HAVE HALF BED ON BEFORE THE WEEKEND. WE JUST GOT LUCKY GOT THOSE GYM LEFT. THOSE BE OFF OF 40 12 OUT THERE. I GUESS THE LOWEST PART OF I CAN IN THE CREEK. FOUR AND A HALF UNDER WATER 10 WIDE. ALL THE ACROSS PRETTY BAD ABOUT 25, 30 YEARS AGO. FINALLY. FINALLY IT WOULDN'T LAST. I'M JUST GLAD WE MOTION A MOTION TO PAY THE BILL. HAVE A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? OPPOSED. I'M SORRY. I DID NOT GET THE MOTION TO PAY COMMISSIONER. I MEAN, UH, JACKSON MADE THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER CLARK SECONDED. THANK YOU. UH, ONE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT JUST ON THE NINTH, UH, WHENEVER WE HAVE THE, THE FOLKS HERE FROM THE HIGHWAY PARK TO TRY TO GET YOU MAYOR'S WHERE I WON'T SEND HIM A LETTER OR AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD HAVE SOME UH, OTHER COUNTY THIS PRETTY NICE DEAL HAVE, I MEAN HE WANTS TO COME TO TALK COUNTY SO WE NEED TO GO DOWN TO RED CARPET, DON'T YOU THINK? YES SIR. TRY TO LET HIM KNOW WE'RE IN TO WHAT THEY'VE GOT GOING. THEY'RE GONNA ASK US TO JOIN THIS NORTHEAST TEXAS MOBILITY, UH, GROUP AND UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE REASON NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DO RAIL GO RIGHT, GOES RIGHT DOWN HIGHWAY 80. THE INTERSTATE 20 CUTS THE COUNTY PRETTY WELL IN HALF, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S UH, ANY IMPROVEMENTS? DO THE WHOLE COUNTY ALL I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR, UH, REV. SECOND MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. GENTLEMEN, APPRECIATE Y'ALL. ME OUTTA JAIL SO FAR. TURN THE CAMERA OFF. WELL JUST HANG ON. ARE YOU REALLY WALKING OUT THE DOOR RIGHT NOW? OH, SHE'S WAITING ON, OKAY, HOLD ON. DANG, WE GOT IT ON CAMERA TOO, RIGHT? * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.