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EVERYBODY HERE THIS MORNING, UH, THAT FORWARD ON JUDGE.

WE TO KNOW, KNOW EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

HE'S DOING WELL.

TALKED TO HIM THIS MORNING.

UH, HE JUST, UH, RECUPERATING, FOLLOW THE DOCTOR'S ORDERS, WHAT WENT WELL IN THE SURGERY.

HE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND HAVING THIS, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON, COULD YOU LEAVE US AN INVITATION? FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR FATHER.

WE THANK YOU FOR JUST LOOKING DOWN ON US INDIVIDUALLY, LOOKING DOWN ON US.

AS FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO BLESS, UH, JUDGE WOOD, UH, AND HIS SPIRIT RECOVER.

THEN WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN ON COMMISSIONER RODNEY AND HIS WIFE AND CONTINUE TO BLESS THEM.

THEN FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD LOOK DOWN ON THIS COURT, BLESS THE GENTLEMAN, ASSIST ON THIS COURT, BE MADE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COUNTY.

THEN FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD LOOK DOWN ON OUR TROOPS THAT ARE OVERSEAS, THAT STANDING IN THE HOME, PROTECT THEM, THAT THEY MAY HAVE A SAFE TRIP.

FLAG, PLEDGE FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND MR. RE, IANS ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS SIGHT.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS, ONE SAINT UNDER GOD.

ONE.

AND HAVE WE HAD TWO, UH, ASSISTANT TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK, AND I GUESS WE'LL GO INTO ORDER.

THEY SIGNED UP HERE.

THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, MR. YES, SIR.

YOU COME BOARD AND WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IN REMARKABLE BUILDERS WE'RE, WE'RE JUST ALLOWED TO LISTEN TO YOU.

YES, SIR.

AND WE CAN'T RESPOND TO YOU.

YES, SIR.

EVER.

IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUE, WE CAN RESPOND TO YOU PRIVATELY, OKAY.

LATER ON.

BUT AT THIS POINT, WE CANNOT.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

I LIVE AT POST OAK BEND.

THE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FIXED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND THEY WENT IN THERE AND THEY DIDN'T PUT NO HARD IN IT.

THEY PUT ROCK BIG GRAVEL ON IT.

THEY RAN ON IT FOR ABOUT TWO DAYS, AND THEY TOOK A BROOM AND THEY DID COMMERCIAL BROOM AND WENT BACK THERE AND BROOM.

AND NOW ALL THE GRAVELS ON THE SIDE IN THE DITCHES AND THE HOLES WERE BACK.

I, THE ONLY THING THAT GETS ME ABOUT THAT, THAT'S THE WAY OF MONEY, OUR MONEY THAT WE PAY US TAXPAYER.

THAT'S WAY IF YOU CAN'T LEAVE IT UP.

AND MY OTHER THING IS THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT OUR BUDGET.

THAT LAST YEAR IT WAS MORE, NOW IT'S WENT DOWN, THOSE THINGS THAT I ABOUT.

AND I WOULD PRAY THAT WE MIGHT DO SOMETHING AND GET THAT ROLL FIXED AND TIGHTEN IT.

MAYBE GIVE THEM MORE MONEY.

MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND, AND DOWN THAT ROAD, IT'S 2 76 AND THERE'S A LOT OF CUSTOM HOMES DOWN THERE.

AND IN SOME PLACES THE TREES ARE IN.

THERE'S NOT MANY DITCH WATER RUNS OVER TWO PLACES.

AND WE HAVE GO GET OVER AND DITCH SOMETIMES, OR YOU'LL GET RUN OVER.

SO THAT, THAT ROAD NEEDS TO WIDE A LITTLE BIT.

IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

IT IS BAD.

BUT THAT'S ALL I SAY.

THANK SIR.

YES, SIR.

NEXT WE HAVE ZA THANK YOU'ALL.

UH, COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK.

UH, BEING THE COMMISSIONER ELECT, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROAD MATERIALS BUDGET FOR PRECINCT ONE, UH, BEING CUT BY 29%.

I LIVE FIRST NINE MONTHS IN MY TERM.

WITH THIS BUDGET, I'D LIKE TO SEE AN INCREASE BY 25% IF, UH, THE COURT CAN POSSIBLY FIND THE MONEY.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, TRYING TO GET A STANDSTILL OF THE FIRST YEAR.

AND ANOTHER THING, I UNDERSTAND THE COURT'S CONSIDERING, UH, CREATING AN ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION, UH, FULL-TIME POSITION, WHICH I THINK THE TAX SUCCESSOR COLLECTOR HAS BEEN A JOB.

AND I SUGGEST HE GIVES US THAT WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE HERSELF, UH, AT RATHER, RATHER THAN CREATING ANOTHER POSITION.

AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING, UH, CREATING A LAW LIBRARIAN, UH, POSITION.

UH, WHICH IF WE HAVE HAD ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD'VE TO HAVE ONE.

UM, MY POSITION IS TAXPAYER MONEY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THAT'S THE THREE MAIN CONCERN AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

LIKE I SAID, WE PROBABLY WE'D BE TO ASK,

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UH, ONE AT A TIME.

SO YOU'RE, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY THAT HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.

AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FOR JULY 23RD, 2012.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER POINTING FRED CARTER TO ESD.

NUMBER TWO, WORK FOR REMAINDER OF A ONE YEAR TERM ENDING 1231 TO 12.

I THINK THAT'S A TITLE ON PLAN, ISN'T THAT CORRECT, MR. YES.

YES.

AND THEY'RE HAVING SEEN DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPRO CAUSE NUMBER 5 7 5 3 2 AS BOX 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR BLOCK NINE NINE MORNING N SURVEY STATUS ADDRESS BETWEEN SOUTH COLER STREET AND GARDNER STREET, KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.

I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO MAY MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MAN, SECOND BY JACKSON.

OFFICER FAVOR I TO MOVE ON TO SOME BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ERS CONCERNING DISCUSSING ACT ON DRILLING AND TAX ABATEMENT FOR A NEW TYPE OF STEEL.

ACCORDING TO THE TON COUNTY TAX ABATEMENT, , WE'RE REQUIRED TO STATE OUR NAME AND THE REST OF HERE.

IF YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, IT'D BE NICE.

I'M LEE, UM, 1627 OAK VAN DRIVE, HOFFMAN, TEXAS.

AND WITH ME IS DAVID SMITH.

I'M DAVID SMITH, CEO OF TOP STEEL COMPANY, 1200 ANN ROAD.

UM, I'M HERE, I THINK PROBABLY ONLY THE THIRD TIME IN ABOUT 15 YEARS TO, UH, ASK THE COMMISSION'S COURT CONSIDER DOING COUNTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR A PROJECT.

UM, FALCON STEEL, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW IT HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, HAS BEEN DOING BUSINESS HERE SINCE 1972.

AND, UH, THERE IS THE CITY OF KAUFMAN'S, THE LARGEST TAX PAYER IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE GENERATED.

THEY EMPLOY ABOUT 200 PEOPLE.

MATTER OF FACT, THEY'RE PROBABLY BEHIND THE HOSPITAL, OUR LARGEST PRIVATE EMPLOYER.

AND, UM, UM, THEIR COMPANY HAS, UH, CREATED A JOINT VENTURE WITH A SIMILAR COMPANY FROM, UH, FROM ACTUALLY FROM TURKEY.

AND, UH, IS CREATING WHAT'S GONNA BE CALLED A NEW FALCON STEEL.

AND THEIR PLANS IS TO, UH, POTENTIALLY HAVE THREE PHASES.

UH, THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH WOULD BE A, UH, A PLANT THAT'S, I MEAN, STILL UP IN AIR BETWEEN 200 AND 300,000 SQUARE FEET.

UH, THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE FINAL DESIGNS FOR IT.

UM, AND A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS FOR THE COMPANY, UH, WHICH WOULD BE A SEPARATE OFFICE BUILDING.

UM, AND, UH, PHASE ONE, UH, POTENTIAL TAXABLE, HOME TAXABLE INVESTMENT.

IF YOU DID BUILDING AND FIXTURES OF MACHINERY EQUIPMENT AND TAXABLE INVENTORY COULD BE $49 MILLION IN PHASE ONE ALONE.

UH, IF ALL THREE PHASES ARE COMPLETED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THE PROJECT COULD TOTAL APPROXIMATELY $110 MILLION IN TAXABLE INVESTMENT FOR KAUFMAN AND KAMAN COUNTY.

AND I ASSURE YOU, THIS IS THE BIGGEST PROJECT I'VE EVER WORKED ON BESIDES WHEN WE BUILT THE GEORGIA DOME IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA, BACK IN THE LATE 1980S.

UM, THE, UH, ANOTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT, IS THAT IF YOU TOOK THE 10 TOP PROPERTY TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN AND PUT 'EM TOGETHER, PHASE ONE OF THIS PLANT WOULD BE LARGER THAN THOSE COMBINED.

THAT'S HOW BIG IT'S, AND, UH, SO, AND ALL WE'RE ASKING TODAY IS THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS APPROVED SOME COUNTY TAX ABATEMENT BASED ON YOUR CURRENT POLICY FOR TAX, YOU KNOW, FOR COUNTY TAX ABATEMENT.

I'D LIKE TO STOP JUST INTRODUCE YOU TO, AGAIN, TO DAVID SMITH THAT YOU SHARE WITH YOU, OR GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK DAVID ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UH, THIS NEW PROJECT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED OUT HERE ON 2 43.

IS THAT CORRECT? 2 43 27 27.

27 27 FOR THE PUBLIC KNOW THE APPLICATION RIGHT HERE FOR THE PUBLIC, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE EMPLOYED THERE? UH, PHASE ONE WILL BE ABOUT 175 PEOPLE EMPLOYED THERE.

AND THROUGH, THROUGHOUT ALL THE PHASES, WE'LL PROBABLY GET TWO 50 AND PUSH TO 300 FINAL PHASE POINT OUT TO OUR TAX ABATEMENT COMMITTEE, WHICH CONSISTS OF JC AND I THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH DAVID AND LEE.

AND WE ARE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING THIS TO THE REPORT.

Y'ALL HAVE ANY

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QUESTIONS? UM, THIS, THIS IS THE AGENT WHERE, WHEREVER YOUR POLICY IS, AND, UM, IT IS, OH, THERE IS ONE THING, AND LEMME GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE PROBABLY THE DAY BEFORE YOU VOTE.

IS THIS AN EXISTING INDUSTRY EXPANDING OR IS IT A NEW INDUSTRY? 'CAUSE YOUR POLICY HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THING.

IT ACTUALLY FAVORS, UH, AN EXISTING INDUSTRY.

AND, UH, BY THE WAY, FALCON STILL, THE PLANT THAT YOU KNOW TODAY WILL STILL REMAIN IN OPERATION.

THEY WILL TRANSFER ABOUT A HUNDRED OF THOSE EMPLOYEES OVER TO THE NEW PLANT.

BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME COMPANY.

, IT'S A NEW JOINT VENTURE.

SO Y'ALL GOTTA DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO, UH, TO APPROVE IT OR NOT, BASED ON, ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN EXISTING INDUSTRY EXPANDING OR IT'S A NEW VENTURE.

IT JUST IS, IT'S A NEW VENTURE, RIGHT? THIS IS, WELL, THIS, IT'S A NEW COMPANY THAT'S DOING THE BUSINESS, BUT IT IS, BUT IT IS ALSO OWNED BY A COMPANY THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR 40 YEARS.

IT'S THE LARGEST TAX PLAYER IN THE CITY OF CO WELL, WHEN I READ IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS, IT'S UP TO YOU.

I WOULD THINK THEY PROBABLY SHOULD QUALIFY UNDER, YOU KNOW, EXISTING FACILITY, WHICH GIVES YOU, LIKE, SAY A LITTLE BIT OF A LONGER TERM ON THE ABATEMENT.

NOW, ONE YEAR FURTHER, WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF THE COURT IS, WE HAVE NO PREFERENCE.

IS THERE ANY ISSUES ON THE LANGUAGE OF THAT? NOT REALLY.

IS THOSE THING IT'S AN EXISTING ENTITY EXCEPT FOR THE NAME THAT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT LLC AS AS THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S THE SAME FUNCTION, IT'S THE SAME, PRESUMABLY THE SAME BUSINESS OR CORE BUSINESS THAT THEY HAVE.

UH, I I SEE IT AS THE SAME.

SO AS PART I LIKE THE ALL TO CONCERN THAT BEEN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING BUSINESS.

AGREE.

AND THEN TO ANSWER MR. JACKSON'S QUESTION, IS THAT, IS THAT OVER EIGHT YEARS OR IS IT SEVEN YOU GOT EXISTING? I JUST DIDN'T SEE, I DIDN'T SEE THE WORD HOW MANY YEARS THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THE JUDGE, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ACCORDING TO WHATEVER YOU, IT'S IN YOUR POLICY.

THE TERMS ARE IN YOUR POLICY.

YES.

HONOR, I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF YOU WRITE A PACKET RIGHT NOW, MR. MADDY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE STUDIED OVER THIS AND, UH, IT LOOKS REAL.

IT LOOKS REAL GOOD.

WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, REALLY PLEASED TO HAVE FALCON STEEL.

UH, WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN IN THE LAST 30 YEARS OR 40 YEARS.

AND, UH, I'M REAL EXCITED ABOUT THIS PLANT.

I'VE, UH, UH, SINCE WE HAD OUR LAST TAX ABATEMENT, I I HAD PREVIOUSLY EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, GOING FIVE OVER FIVE YEARS ON IT.

BUT, UH, I'VE DONE A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH AND, AND STUDIED IT.

AND THIS IS SUCH A HUGE PROJECT THAT, UH, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT THIS EIGHT YEARS IS, UH, IS VERY REASONABLE.

AND WE WELCOME TO WELCOME YOU TO COLTON COUNTY AND YOUR NEW ENDEAVOR AND, UH, WISH YOU ALL A SUCCESS.

NO, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS TAX ABATE OFFICER BE MADE BY COMMISSIONER JACKSON TO APPROVE THE TAX ABATE ON EXISTING FACILITY.

SECOND, SECOND, COMMISSIONER MANNING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I I ASK ME FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.

I ASSUME YOU ALREADY DISCUSSED IT.

THANK, THANK YOU.

MR. MURPHY IS UP TO PRESENT.

SAID THE TAX TEST.

COLLECT YOUR REPORT WITH JULY, 2012.

GOOD MORNING.

IT'S NOT, UH, NORMAL TO JUST SEE THESE TWO EMPTY SEATS OVER, OKAY.

THROUGH JULY.

WE HAVE COLLECTED IN THE GENERAL FUND 28.2 MILLION AND THE ROAD BRIDGE 3.3 MILLION, BOTH OF WHICH IS 97%.

WE ALMOST WHERE THAT WILL ROUND UP TO 98%.

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SO MY PREDICTION IS THAT THROUGH THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL BE AT 98%.

HE NORMALLY AT 97%.

97 HISTORICALLY IS THE HIGHEST WE'VE BEEN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. MURPHY? IF WE'RE AT A HIGHER, A HIGHER RATE OF COLLECTIONS ON OUR TAXES, IS THAT, IS THAT AN INDICATION THAT OUR LIMIT TAX, UH, INCREASE IS GONNA GO DOWN? YES.

WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE LESS FROM THE CURRENT YEAR INTO DELINQUENT TAXES THAN HISTORICALLY.

YES.

WELL, LESS PERCENTAGE DOLLARS PERCENT, RIGHT? I DUNNO.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT REVENUE ITEM ON THE DELINQUENT TAXES IS GONNA BE LESS NEXT YEAR THAN WHAT BE THIS YEAR.

UH, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND AS THAT'S A GOOD THING, YES FOR US, , I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ATTORNEYS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.

I TAKE MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTORS REPORT.

MAY WE ACCEPT THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR? IS THAT, DID YOU GET THAT, LAURA? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVORS SAY A, A, A THANK YOU MR. MURPHY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, COOPER TO PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE'S REPORT FOR JULY OF 2012 WITH YOUR, UH, DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTIONS GOING ALONG WITH WHAT MR. MURPHY SAID.

YOU'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 98% COLLECTION IN THE GENERAL FUND.

ALTOGETHER YOUR 33,195,388 THAT YOU BUDGETED, YOU HAVE COLLECTED $31,109,798.

THE GENERAL FUND SITTING AT 93.17% OF COLLECTION.

AND YOUR BENCHMARK FOR 10 MONTHS IS 0.833.

SO YOU'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME ON THE GENERAL FUND.

GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE AT 79.098%.

SO YOU'RE UNDER BUDGET OF YOUR EXPENDITURES.

NEXT PAGE SHOWS YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE REVENUES.

YOU'RE SITTING AT 9% COLLECTION.

WE'VE TRANSFERRED 93 OF THAT PERCENT TO THE ACTUAL DIFFERENCE ROAD BRIDGE FUNDS, UH, COLLECTIONS AT 79.6, AND YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT 58.13%.

SO YOU'RE UNDER BUDGET ON YOUR EXPENSES.

GOOD NEWS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT DON OUR ROAD BRIDGE.

THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT ALL OF THE REVENUE THAT WE'VE FORECAST.

WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SHORT, WE'VE BEEN UNDER ON REVENUE, BUT THIS YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING BE, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET IT OFF, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ANOTHER GOOD THING.

THAT'S GOOD.

WE NEED IT.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT .

SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A MS. WILLIAMS PRESENT ACCEPT THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER REPORT FOR MAY, JUNE AND JULY, 2012.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AS EVIDENCE FOR NUMBER THAT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASED OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

UH, WE'VE TECHNICALLY BEEN FULL SINCE CHRISTMAS, RUNNING BETWEEN 14 AND 17 KIDS.

UH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, WE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME TRYING TO BALANCE THAT BUDGET.

UH, THE BOARD SET FOR NINE KIDS LAST YEAR.

UH, SO OUR NUMBERS WERE, WERE, WERE PRETTY SKEW COMPARED TO OUR BUDGET.

UH, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO, UH, FINISH THE YEAR WITH A, A VERY SMALL DEFICIT, UH, WHICH OF COURSE OUR FOUNDATION WILL COVER.

UH, BUT, UH, I MET WITH JUDGE

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WOOD AND, AND KAREN AND MEETING THEM OVER BUDGET.

AND I MET DEAL WITH, WITH KAREN BEFORE WE DID THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

UH, SO I'M HOPING THIS YEAR OUR BUDGET WILL, WILL MORE REFLECT, UH, WHAT WE DO AND, AND, AND WHAT WE DO.

UH, I'VE HAD SOME STAFFING ISSUES OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

UH, I HAD TO REPLACE EIGHT OF THE, I NORMALLY CARRY 10 TO 12 PART-TIME STAFF.

UH, AND I'VE HAD TO REPLACE EIGHT OF THOSE, UH, OVER ABOUT A 10 WEEK PERIOD.

UH, THREE OF 'EM WERE TERMINATIONS.

FIVE OF THEM WERE JUST LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGING.

AND WE'RE PRETTY STEADY RIGHT NOW.

OUR NUMBERS ARE STILL UP.

UH, SO I'M HOPING THAT, THAT I WON'T HAVE TO DO ANY HIRING OR FIRING, UH, IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

WE DID HAVE ONE MEDICAL EMERGENCY IN JUNE, 4-YEAR-OLD WILL AVOID, UH, FELL AND SPLIT HIS CHIN, UH, TAKE ER FOR STITCHES.

UH, ANYTIME A CHILD HAS TO GO TO ER, WE HAVE AN INVEST INVESTIGATION.

UH, LICENSING COMES OUT, WANTS TO KNOW WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, AND WHY.

UH, SHE WAS THERE FOR ABOUT THREE DAYS.

UH, BUT WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY DEFICIENCIES FOR THAT, FOR THAT INVESTIGATION.

UH, WE DID HAVE ONE 5-YEAR-OLD BOY ADMITTED TO LENOX HOSPITAL IN JULY WHERE HE REMAINS STILL.

UH, THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY FINDING PLACEMENT FOR HIM BECAUSE OF HIS BIZARRE BEHAVIORS.

UH, HE STARTED EATING IN EDIBLE OBJECTS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

, UH, WHICH PRESENTED A, A MAJOR SAFETY CONCERN IN OUR HOUSE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A STERILE FACILITY.

UH, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY COMING PLACE FOR YOU.

UH, AGAIN, THIS YEAR IN, IN JULY, WE HAD THE, UH, TEXAS MICROSOFT PROVIDERS ASSOCIATION.

CHRISTMAS IN JULY IN, WE HAD 139 MOTORCYCLES, ABOUT 230 PEOPLE, UH, FOR THE DAY.

UH, IT WAS HOT, IT WAS VERY HOT.

UH, BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY FALL OUT THIS YEAR, WHICH, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS GREAT.

UH, THEY DID BRING US ALMOST $6,200 IN CASH AND PLUS ABOUT 500 WORTH OF HASSLE GOODS.

AND THAT DAY, UH, THE KAMAN SUMMER FOOD PROGRAM ADOPTED PROGRAM THIS YEAR, UH, AND PROVIDED BREAKFAST AND LUNCH FOR ALL THE CHILDREN FIVE DAYS A WEEK, UH, MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN OUR, IN OUR FOOD BUDGET.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY CONTINUE TO RECEIVE GRANTS TO KEEP THAT PROGRAM GOING.

THE MAJOR THING THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR WAS, UH, WE HAD REPLACED, UH, ROOFING ON FACILITY IN ALL OF THE OUTBUILDINGS.

UH, A LEAK DEVELOPED ONE THE OUT BUILDINGS.

SO OUR, UH, TAX WRECK CAME OUT AND, AND DID THE INFECTION.

AND HE DISCOVERED MULTIPLE, UH, LAYERS OF .

HE RECOMMENDED REPLACING ALL THE ROOFS.

UH, AND HE REPLACED A AIR CONDITIONING UNIT THAT WE ASSUMED IT WAS STRUCK BY LIGHTENING DURING THE LAST STORM SESSION.

UH, I DO WANT TO EXPRESS MY PERSONAL THANKS TO DARLING IN THE OFFICE AND JACKIE FOR HELPING THEM NEGOTIATE THAT, UM, THAT TAX INSPECTION AND THE, AND THE PROCESSING, THE BIDS AND, AND ACTUALLY GETTING THE WORK COMPLETED.

THEY WERE TREMENDOUS HELP.

UH, WE JUST FINISHED OUR CONTRACT PROCESS WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES.

UH, I WENT JUDGE WOOD, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE OUR MANDATE VERY MUCH.

MOST OF THE CHANGES IN THE CONTRACT THIS YEAR WERE GEARED TOWARD THE, UH, OLDER TEENS 18 AND WHO HAVE AGE SYSTEM, UH, BUT STILL HAVEN'T COMPLETED THEIR EDUCATION TO, TO ALLOW THEM TO LIVE ON THEIR OWN.

UH, SO WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF CHANGES IN OURS.

OKAY.

UH, AND LASTLY, ON A GOOD NOTE, THE THRIFT STORE THAT'S FOUNDATION OPENED, THE EMPLOYEE, UH, IS DOING EXTREMELY WELL.

UH, A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT, UH, AND APPRECIATION FOR THE STORE.

UH, DONATIONS ARE UNBELIEVABLE.

UH, BUT THE, UH, REVENUE WE HOPE AT THE END OF THE YEAR WILL BE AT A POINT WHERE THEY CAN START FUNDING SOME OF THAT, UH, EXCESS REVENUE INTO THE SHELTER FUND.

SO WE'RE NOT SO ON THE FOUNDATION.

AND

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SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. WILLIAMS? UH, I DO.

ON YOUR STAFF TIME TURNOVER, ARE YOU HAVING ANY, UH, ARE YOU HAVING ANY DIFFICULTY REPLACING THE PART-TIME STAFF? AND ALSO, DO THEY HAVE A, DO YOU GO THROUGH A TRAINING PERIOD FOR THEM? WHEN I, WHEN I HIRE A NEW STAFF, THERE IS ABOUT 80 HOURS OF TRAINING THAT THEY HAD TO RECEIVE, USUALLY UNDER MY DIRECTION.

UH, I HAVE A FEW STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN ASSIST ME IN THAT.

UH, BUT I CAN'T COUNT THEM IN RATIO UNTIL THEY FINISH THAT END GAS.

RIGHT.

SO THAT IS A TREMENDOUS STRAIN ON OUR BUDGET.

AND ALSO, UH, THE 6,300 THAT COMES IN FROM THE TEXAS MOTORCYCLE RIDER ASSOCIATION.

YES, SIR.

UH, I DON'T SEE THAT UNDER REVENUE ANYWHERE THAT, THAT, THAT IS DEPOSITED IN THEIR FOUNDATION FUND, WHICH SERVES AS OUR FIVE ONE C3, UH, AND THEN MAINTAIN OUR, OUR, OUR CHARITABLE DONATIONS, UH, UNTIL WE NEED IT.

RIGHT.

AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL DEPOSIT.

HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK I'M WORKING ON IT, AND, AND ABOUT THE, UH, UH, ROOF ON THE FACILITY.

AND, UH, I KNOW JACK WAS A GREAT HELP TO YOU ON THAT, THE .

AND, UH, I JUST WONDERED, DID Y'ALL PUT A, DID Y'ALL PUT A 30 YEAR ROOF ON IT OR A 20 YEAR ROOF? 25 YEAR ROOF EASEMENT.

IT WAS, I WANT SAY IT WAS A 30 MINUTE, I, IT'S IN MY HEAD, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SWEAR TO IT.

I THINK IT WAS A 30 YEAR.

DID THEY FL EVERYTHING AND ALL THAT STUFF LIKE THAT? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

AND YOU CRAWLED UP THERE AND LOOKED AT IT, JACK ? I JUST THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT IN.

I ACTUALLY HAD, UH, THE COMPANY THAT DID IT, UH, SENT ONE OF HER CONTRACT SPECIALIST, UH, AFTER THE CREW FINISHED THE ROOFING, UH, HE CAME OUT AND HE DID WALK THE BUILDINGS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO HE CHECKED SOMEBODY UP ON TOO, MAKE SURE WE GOT .

YES, SIR.

UH, WE'VE GOT A ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR GUARANTEE ON, ON THE BID.

SO IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS, HAVEN'T HAD ANY SO FAR.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OUT THERE.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ON, ON THE KIDS THAT'S IN HIGH SCHOOL, YOU SUPPORT THEM ALL, ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.

WE HAVE HAD OVER THE YEAR, I DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT MOMENTS.

UH, WE HAVE HAD, OVER THE YEARS, MANY OF, MANY OF THE KIDS THAT ARE APPROACHING 18 YEARS, UH, HISTORICALLY WHEN THEY TURNED 18 CPS WOULD BRING THEM A DUFFEL BAG AND DROP 'EM OFF AT DOWNS LIFE.

UH, THAT WAS HOW THEY, THAT WAS HOW THEY AGED OUT.

UH, BUT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE COLLEGE SOCIOLOGY DEPARTMENTS DID A STUDY ON THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN DALLAS COUNTY.

AND THE STATISTICS WERE JUST STAGGERING OVER HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE FORMER FOSTER CHILDREN.

UH, JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO.

SO IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, THEY HAVE DEVELOPED SOME TREMENDOUS PROGRAMS, UH, TO KEEP THOSE KIDS ENGAGED, KEEP THEM IN SCHOOL.

UH, TRADITIONALLY FOSTER KIDS HIT NINTH GRADE AND BROUGHT BACK, THEY CAN'T GET PAST THE NINTH GRADE.

SO WHEN THEY TURN 18, THEY'RE, THEY'RE READY.

THEY'RE JUST READY TO GO.

UH, BUT THEY, THEY'VE DEVELOPED SOME PROGRAMS THAT THEY CAN, EVEN IF THEY LEAVE, THEY CAN COME BACK UP UNTIL 24 TO FINISH SCHOOL.

THEY GET TO KEEP THEIR MEDICAID.

SO THEY HAVE HEALTHCARE, UH, THEY HAVE, THEY'RE CALLED TRACK CENTERS.

THEY'RE JUST LITTLE, LITTLE CENTERS.

UH, KIDS CAN GO AND DO JOB SEARCH OR DO ONLINE TRAINING OR HOOK UP WITH, WITH PLACES TO STAY.

UH, SO THEY ARE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING A LOOK AT HOW TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED AND MOTIVATED TO FINISH SCHOOL.

UH, SO THEY CAN, SO THEY CAN BE FROM HER WHEN THEY LIVE THAT TEAM.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE SKILLS, EDUCATION, JOB SKILLS, SOCIAL SKILLS, NOTHING TO SURVIVE AS ADULTS.

AND, UH, SO THE PROGRAMS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FASHIONING NOW ARE REALLY GEARED TOWARD THE, WELL, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

ONE CONCERN TALK.

DO YOU GET LIKE THE LITTLE, THE LITTLE CHILD THAT WENT TO GLEN OAKS MM-HMM .

LAY OFF RETURN.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT HE'S STILL THERE.

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RAPPORT

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WITH GLEN .

I KNOW ALL THEIR NURSES, ALL THEIR DOCTORS.

UH, I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF THE CHILDREN THAT ARE ADMITTED TO LENOX, UH, ARE ADMITTED BACK TO FACILITY.

UH, IF THEY ARE IN A STABLE CONDITION THAT I CAN GUARANTEE YOUR SAFETY, UH, WITH THE KIDS WHO ARE, WHO ARE UNSTABLE IS THE ONLY WORD, UH, SOMETIMES THE, THEIR SAFETY IS MY ISSUE.

UH, SO I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT CAN I PROTECT THEM EVEN FROM THEMSELVES.

UH, A LOT OF OUR EVIDENCE TO IS FOR ARE SELF-MUTILATION OR, UH, SELF-HARMING BEHAVIOR.

UH, AND USUALLY SEVEN TO 10 DAYS THERE, THEY REGULATE THEIR MEDS, THEY GET 'EM, GET 'EM A LITTLE MORE STABLE.

WE CAN USUALLY BRING THEM BACK IN.

UH, BUT IF I CAN'T GUARANTEE THEIR SAFETY OFFICER, I'LL NOT AGREE WITH THAT.

WELL, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

THANKS SIR.

AND I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, KEEP PRESSURE IN THE STATE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE KIDS THAT ARE GETTING OUT OF THE SYSTEM.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, RECENTLY, JUST IN RECENT YEARS WHEN YOU 18, YOU JUST DROPPED OFF IN THE WORLD AND NOW THEY'VE GOT PROGRAM WHERE CONTINUE COLLEGE.

YES SIR.

AND THEY CAN CONTINUE, COME BACK INTO SOCIETY.

AND THE BIGGEST CHANGE THING THEY KNOW NOW IS THEY'RE ALLOWING STAY FOSTER HOMES, UH, BEFORE AT 18 FOSTER HOMES COULD KEEP YOU ANYMORE.

BUT THEY'VE EXTENDED THAT CARE.

THEY CALL IT AFTERCARE.

UH, IF YOU'RE NOT THROUGH THE SCHOOL OR YOU'RE GOING TO COLLEGE, YOU CAN STILL STAY IN THAT SAME FOSTER HOME YOU'VE BEEN IN FOR 10 YEARS.

UH, AND, AND GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR, GET YOUR SCHOOL DONE.

WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING THAT WITH SOME OF OUR PERSONAL PEOPLE THAT WE'VE GONE.

THERE'S A TRAGEDY THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

BUT I GLAD TO SEE THE STATE'S DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

EVERY TIME YOU GET A CHANCE, YOU CAN KIND PUNCH UP ON THAT.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION TO, TO ACCEPT THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER BEFORE? SO MAY.

I'LL SECOND THAT ONE.

SO WE GIVE YOU A BREAK.

YOU CAN ASK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A AYE.

LAURIE FLOYD, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER IMPROVE EMPLOYEES HEALTH INSURANCE AND OTHER EMPLOYEE BENEFITS.

MORNING.

UM, I TO TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN.

UM, LAST YEAR WE HAD THE DUAL OPTION PLAN AND AFTER TALKING WITH TECH AND UM, THE PARTICIPATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE HAD, WE THOUGHT THAT THE BEST OPTION WOULD GO BACK TO A SINGLE PLAN OPTION.

WITH THAT SINGLE PLAN OPTION.

IT WOULD KIND OF MERGE THE TWO HEALTH BENEFIT PLANS INTO ONE, LOWERING THE DEDUCTIBLE FOR THE HIGHER PLAN AND THE COPAY AND THEN RAISING IT FOR THE OTHER PLAN.

UM, THE, WE'VE ALSO DECIDED THAT THE EMPLOYEES SHOULD CONTINUE TO NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THEIR PREMIUM.

THAT WOULD COVER A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR PREMIUM.

AND THEN THEY COVER A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR DEPENDENT COST, WHICH WOULD REMAIN THE SAME.

THEY WOULD SEE AN INCREASE IN THE DEPENDENT COST BECAUSE OVERALL WE ARE INCREASING THE 14.7%.

SO THERE'S THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE LONG-TERM DISABILITY THAT WE CURRENTLY OFFER WITH LINCOLN FINANCIAL, WITH OUR UM, LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY.

UM, THE LONG-TERM DISABILITY, WE CURRENTLY PAY FOR A CORE PLAN FOR THAT AND THAT COST THE COUNTY ABOUT $25,000 A YEAR.

AND UM, THERE'S A BUY-UP OPTION THAT THE EMPLOYEE PAYS FOR THAT COVERS A LESSER TIME IF THEY'RE OFF WORK A LESSER TIME.

AND WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 85 EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATE ON THAT.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH LINCOLN FINANCIAL ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF DROPPING THAT THE COUNTY PAID PART AND JUST KEEPING THE EMPLOYEE PAID PART THAT THEY CAN ELECT TO CONTINUE TO ELECT TO HAVE THAT COVERAGE.

WE JUST WOULD NO LONGER COVER THE SIX MONTHS COVERAGE AND UM, THE RATE WOULD INCREASE SLIGHTLY FOR THE EMPLOYEE, UM, BUT DECREASE SLIGHTLY FOR SOME DEPENDING ON THEIR AGE.

SO IT KIND OF BALANCES OUT.

AND UM, 'CAUSE THEY WERE WITH A GROUP, WE WERE GETTING A FLAT RATE THAT THE EMPLOYEE WAS PAYING AND IF YOU DROP THE COUNTY PAID CART, THEN WE, THE EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE TO BE AN AGE BANDED FEE SO THAT IT WOULD, BASED ON THEIR AGE ON THE AMOUNT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT LONG TERM DISABILITY.

AND THEN, UM, LASTLY, WE DECIDED OR CONSIDERED NOT BRINGING BACK THE DISCOVERY BENEFITS FLEX PLAN.

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WE DIDN'T HAVE VERY GOOD PARTICIPATION AND UM, WE WERE KIND OF LOSING MONEY BY OFFERING PLAN AND THEN WE DECIDED NOT TO BRING BACK AFFLECK UH, LIFE INSURANCE JUST TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THE ADDITIONAL LIFE INSURANCE AND CANCER POLICIES AND ALL THAT SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE WITH UM, COLONIAL.

ANY QUESTIONS DO, DO WE HAVE, UH, AVERAGE AGE OF COUNTY? I DON'T HAVE ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I DIDN'T GET IT FOR YOU THOUGH.

SOME, I'LL PROBABLY FIGURE IT OFF IN THE MIDDLE CAP.

SO DROPPING, DROPPING THE DEAL OPTION HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN, UH, IS THAT GOING TO SAVE US? THAT'S GOING SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY? YEAH, WE DIDN'T REALLY SEE, EVEN THOUGH, PARDON ME UP, EVEN THOUGH THE, UH, THE INSURANCE HAS GONE UP 14.7%, THE ORIGINAL PLAN LAST YEAR BY GOING TO THE DUAL OPTION PLAN WAS THAT WE HAVE MORE EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATE IN THE HIGHER OPTION, WHICH WOULD THEREFORE INCREASE, DECREASE THE AMOUNT THAT WE WERE PAYING.

BUT WE DIDN'T SEE THAT.

WE HAD, I THINK WE HAD 51 51 EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATE IN THE BUY-UP OPTION.

SO WE DIDN'T SEE ANY SAVINGS IN THAT ASPECT.

SO BY DOING THIS, WE'RE JUST OFFERING THE ONE PLAN, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE AN INCREMENT.

DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY THIS IS GONNA SAVE? DO YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE OR, I DO NOT KNOW.

NO SIR.

AND, UH, ALL THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE ABLE TO UH, UH, IN OTHER WORDS, EVEN THOUGH AFLAC WON'T BE COMING TO OUR OPEN MEETINGS OR WE CALL IT OPEN ENROLLMENT MM-HMM .

UH, ALL EMPLOYEES WILL BE ABLE TO, TO UH, BUY AFLAC ON THEIR OWN IF THEY SO CHOOSE.

YES.

AND ALL EMPLOYEES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE AFLAC, THEY CAN KEEP THAT BENEFIT THROUGH THE PAYROLL DEDUCTION.

THEY JUST CAN'T CHANGE IT OR CANCEL IT THROUGH A PAYROLL DE OR THEY CAN CANCEL IT AND THEN THEY'LL LOSE IT.

BUT THEY CAN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THEY AND KEEP THAT PAYROLL DEDUCTION.

IF THEY WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, THEY WOULD'VE TO GO OUTSIDE AND PAY THEM IN SEPARATELY ON THEIR OWN.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THE REASON THAT DECISION WAS MADE IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GIVE A VERY PARTICIPATION FROM AFLAC, BUT YOU SURE THIS, IT'S GONNA SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH.

I'M HOPING THE, THE DUAL OPTION REALLY DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME LAST YEAR WE WENT THROUGH THAT BECAUSE YOU PAID AS MUCH MONEY FOR THAT AS YOU DID IF YOU WENT THE DOCK.

THERE WAS DEFINITELY NO SAVINGS FOR THE EMPLOYEES OR FOR THE COUNTY.

EITHER WAY I COULDN'T SEE A BENEFIT WAS A LITTLE LOWER, BUT THEY STILL HAD TO PAY A PORTION OF IT MONTHLY.

SO IT REALLY WASN'T THAT MUCH OF A BETTER OPTION.

SO THIS PLAN, GOING BACK TO THE ONE PLAN IS KIND OF BETTER FOR BOTH BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES NOT HAVING TO PAY THEIR MONTHLY COST NOW AND THEIR DEDUCTIBLE MAY GOING TWO $50 GOING UP FOR THE PEOPLE THAT BY OPTION THEY'RE NOT PAYING THE 68.

YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A POINT YOU DID STRESS IT HARD ENOUGH.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT EMPLOYEES ARE NOT GONNA TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MORE MONEY FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GOING UP.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE EMPLOYEES PAY THE EXTRA FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE.

CORRECT.

SERIOUS POINT OF CONTENTION IN THE BUDGET.

BUT, UH, TRYING TO KEEP FROM HURTING THE EMPLOYEE, WE DECIDING PAYING FOR THAT INCREASE, JUST THE EMPLOYEE, THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY THE INCREASE FOR THEIR DEFENDANTS.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY INCREASE ON DEFENDANTS ALSO HEALTH INSURANCE IS GONE.

THAT'S YES SIR.

THE LONG TERM DISABILITY, WHAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT? I RECOMMENDED THAT WE DROP THE COUNTY PART 'CAUSE IT WAS COSTING US ABOUT 25,000 AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EMPLOYEE, UM, EITHER REACH THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TOO FAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE OFF FOR SIX MONTHS BEFORE IT EVEN KICKS IN.

WE TRY TO GET OUR EMPLOYEES HEALTHY AND GET 'EM BACK TO WORK BEFORE THE SIX MONTHS.

SO IT WAS KIND OF A WASTE IN MY OPINION.

AND, BUT THEY CAN STILL TO KEEP THE, THE, SO WE'RE NOT LOSING ANYTHING.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EMPLOYEES ON THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY EMPLOYEES ON LONG TERM DISABILITY THAT, THAT COLLECTED THE COUNTY PART.

THE COUNTY PART PAYS THAT WE PAID FOR AFTER WE OFF WORK FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN WE ONLY PAY 40% OF THEIR SALARY AND WE

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DON'T LIKE OUR EMPLOYEES BE OFF AND THEN THE BUY OPTION, THEY JUST HAVE TO BE OFF FOR IT FOR 90 DAYS AND THEN THEY RECEIVE 60% OR BENEFITS.

BUT THE EMPLOYEE PAYS FOR THAT.

AND I AGREE WITH THE ELIMINATING THE DISCOVERY BENEFITS FLEX PLAN IT UH, IT SEEMED LIKE GOOD IDEA BUT IT DID DIDN'T WORK.

IT VERY DIFFICULT TO ADMINISTER I BELIEVE.

AND THEY STILL HAVE AN OPTION TO DO THAT PRIVATELY.

NOT, I BELIEVE SO NOW I'VE BEEN QUESTIONED EXTENSIVELY AS TIME, LIKE TO SAY ON ALAN, WHAT IS THE ISSUE OF NOT HAVING ALAC? I MEAN IS IT, DOES IT CREATE MORE WORK FOR THE COUNTY WHEN YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE PROVIDER? IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CREATE MORE WORK.

WE STILL HAVE TO PAY THE BILL AND WE STILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CHARGE THOSE PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS STILL ACCURATE.

UM, I JUST BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF WHAT I HEARD, THERE'S A LOT OF TURMOIL HAVING TWO DIFFERENT COMPETING AND IT CREATES A LOT OF CONFUSION BACK.

THE EMPLOYEES NOT KNOWING WHICH ONE TO DO WITH WHERE TO GO AND THEN GETTING DIFFERENT STORIES FROM DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND THEN THEY'RE JUST REAL CONFUSED.

AND SO THE CENSUS WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES WAS WITH COLONIAL, SO WE WOULD ONLY PROVIDE ONE, ONE COMPANY FOR THAT BENEFIT.

BUT THEY CAN ALWAYS GO GET THAT ON THEIR PHONE.

CORRECT.

AND WHAT WOULD BE THE ISSUE OF THEM CHANGING IF THEY'RE CURRENTLY DO USING AFLAC AND THEY WANNA CHANGE THEIR BENEFICIARY OR WHATEVER AND THEY CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT, THEY CHANGE THEIR BENEFICIARY.

YEAH, THAT'S DONE TO .

WE DON'T KEEP UP WITH THAT.

I MEAN THEY, THEY JUST COULDN'T CHANGE, THEY COULDN'T ADD ANY ANYTHING TO THEIR CURRENT POLICY BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD CHANGE THEIR PAYROLL DEDUCTION.

SO THAT WOULD JUST BE, WE'RE JUST NOT OFFERING THAT IT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TODAY IS TO APPROVE, APPROVE THE, THE TO PLACEBO PLAN OPTION.

THE 1100 PLAN WOULD A SEVEN 50 DEDUCTIBLE AND THE 25 COPAY, UM, TO EITHER TO DROP THE LONG-TERM DISABILITY, THE COUNTY PART, UM, TO NOT RE-ENROLL DISCOVERY AND TO NOT BRING BACK A, Y'ALL WANT TO VOTE ON THAT AS A PACKAGE OR INDIVIDUAL? I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE BEFORE WE GO ON, UH, WHAT IS ERRP? OH THAT'S, OR THAT'S THE, UM, EARLY RETIREMENT INSURANCE PROGRAM.

OKAY.

IT'S A PROGRAM THROUGH THE STATE THAT THEY FOUND THAT WE WERE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THE $14,000 AND WHEN THAT MONEY SHOULD BE IMPLIED TO THE EMPLOYEES.

AND SO EACH EMPLOYEE IS RECEIVING ABOUT $2 AND I BELIEVE OKAY.

SLEEPING BENEFIT.

OKAY.

WHICH IS KIND OF WHY WE'RE GOING TO THE EMPLOYEE NOT PAYING ANYTHING.

OKAY.

I STILL HAVE JUST ABOUT THE LONG TERM DISABILITY.

I KNOW WE TRY SIX, BUT IF WE DON'T, NONE OF ADVISORS WE CAN'T GET A BAIL IN SIX MONTHS.

WHAT HAPPENS? WELL, THEY WON'T GET ANY LONG TERM DISABILITY UNLESS THEY HAVE THAT ON THEIR OWN.

UNLESS THEY HAVE THAT WITH, UM, COLONIAL OFFERS A LONG TERM DISABILITY AS WELL AS THE BUY OPTION, THEN THEY WOULD RECEIVE BENEFITS FROM THAT.

THEY WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO PURCHASE THAT.

CORRECT.

BUT THE COUNTY WON'T BE PAID CORRECT? IN RED COUNTY COUNTY, WOULDN'T IT? COUNTY'S PAID FOR THE COURT.

YES.

THE COURT ONE WHERE THEY HAVE TO BE OFF SIX TIMES AND IT'S COSTING ABOUT 25,000 A YEAR.

NO, UNDER YOUR TENURE NOBODY HAS QUALIFIED FOR THAT LONG TERM DISABILITY.

NO.

WE HAD ONE EMPLOYEE GET CLOSE, BUT WE GOT HER BACK AND GOOD TO GO.

I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN IN RE OUR BENEFITS, BUT IF NOBODY'S USED THE BENEFITS AND WHY WE'RE PAYING ANY MONEY FOR THIS A POINT OF CONVERSATION.

YEAH.

THAT REDUCTION OF BENEFIT.

IT'S ALSO, UH, I'M SURE SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, VERY STRONGLY, BUT, UH, I CAN'T, I CAN'T.

THAT'S WHAT INSURANCE IS FOR.

IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT IT AND DON'T NEED IT, WELL YOU'RE STILL COVERED, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, YOU NEED IT THEN WHAT? SO, UH, THERE'S EMPLOYED LOT.

OUR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEDICATED EMPLOYEES AND, AND UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE CALLS

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THAT UH, IT'S QUITE DIFFICULT.

IT, IT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REDUCTION OF BENEFITS.

$25,000.

BUT, BUT IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT AND STAYS OFF FOR A YEAR OR SOMETHING, NO MATTER HOW MUCH CHECKING AND ENCOURAGEMENT AND REHABBING AND WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY GET HURT.

IT'S WORKERS' COMP THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

THEY WOULD NOT GET THE LONG TERM DISABILITY ANYWAYS.

IT'S WORKERS' COMP BENEFIT.

SO IF YOU WORRIED ABOUT THAT, THAT'S SEPARATE.

THIS IS JUST FOR CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS.

MM-HMM .

OR IF THEY GET HURT OFF THE JOB SOMEWHERE HOME AND THEY'RE OFF.

IF THEY'RE HURT ON THE JOB, IT'S WORKERS' COMP AND THEY WOULDN'T GIVE A LONG TERM DISABILITY ANYWAYS 'CAUSE THEY BE RECEIVING WORKERS' COMP BENEFITS.

WELL, CHANGE CHANGES.

THEY, UH, IN OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET, WAS THIS INCLUDED OR DELETED? I DON'T REMEMBER PART OF IT.

OKAY.

THERE'S NO REASON TO TABLE IT IF WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT OR WE GONNA GET RID OF IT.

I HAVEN'T MAKE BINDER YET TIME.

THAT'S ONE THING.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET RID.

WE CAN KEEP IT AND THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A IMMEDIATE TIMEFRAME WE GET THIS DONE.

IS THERE? WELL WE START OPENING ENROLLMENT NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN KEEP IT, I JUST DON'T WANT TO CUT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, UNNECESSARILY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMEBODY'S BEEN HERE A LONG TIME THEN THEY COME UP, UH, IT BE A POSSIBILITY TO, UH, INCLUDE IT AGAIN THIS YEAR AND LOOK AT IT A YEAR FROM NOW.

SEE IF IT IS A NECESSITY OR THINK THAT, IS IT CLUB FOR? WHAT IS IT THAT'S, THAT WOULD SUIT ME.

I MEAN, UH, SO WE DROP THE DEAL OPTION PLAN AND SELECT THE SAME PLAN, A 25 COPAY INSTEAD THEN KEEP THE LONG TERM DISABILITY PLAN.

IS THAT, IS IT, YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BUDGET? YES.

PRELIMINARY.

YOU WANT A FULL MOTION COMMISSIONER? I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THE MONEY HAS BEEN BUDGETED OR NOT BEFORE, BEFORE I DO THAT.

I, I BELIEVE IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I BELIEVE THE CONSENSUS WAS TO DROP IT IF THE RATES WERE REASONABLE AND I JUST RECEIVED THE NEW RAISE LAST WEEK, SO, SO I DON'T DUNNO IF THAT, I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE PUT IT IN THERE OR NOT.

WELL, MY DEAL IS, UH, THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAVE HAD A RAISE.

CORRECT? AND, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT WE THE TIME.

SO I THE EMPLOYEE, THEY'VE BEEN HERE, THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR US.

I'LL TELL YOU RAY, I'D LIKE TO, UH, I BELIEVE I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS FOR PENDING FURTHER DISCUSSION AND FIND OUT IF IT'S BEEN BEST IF YOU'LL GIVE US JUST ONE MINUTE.

YOU JUST WANT TO TAKE THE DISABILITY PART-TIME? YES.

YEAH.

YES.

OKAY.

THEN WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN WRITTEN? WE HAVE TO LIKE A THIRD COPAY.

WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THE COPAY? WHAT'S THE COPAY NOW? IT'S 30.

THE, FOR

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THE CORE PLAN IT'S $30 FOR THE BUY PLAN, IT'S 25.

SO, AND THE MAJORITY OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ON THE CORE PLAN.

SO THE MAJORITY WILL SEE THE BENEFIT AND THEY'LL ALSO SEE THEIR DEDUCTIBLE DECREASE FROM A THOUSAND TO SEVEN 50.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO HAVE, I'D LIKE TO COMMISSIONER RATHERS INPUT ON THIS, UH, LONG TERM DISABILITY AND, AND UH, ALSO THE JUDGE.

SO I WOULD MOVE THAT, UH, WE DROPPED THE DUAL OPTION HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN.

SELECT THE SINGLE PLAN TAG 1100 AND TABLE THE, UH, LONG-TERM DISABILITY AT THIS POINT.

SO, AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, THE FLEX PLAN? ELIMINATE YEAH.

GO TO A SINGLE, UH, INSURANCE COMPANY.

YES.

HAVE YOU GOT THAT ? NO, BUT I'LL, I'LL WORK ON IT.

, WILL THAT KEEP YOU IN, IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO NEXT WEEK? UH, WE'LL WORK WITH IT.

I LIKE WORKING WITH IT.

.

OKAY.

MOST OF IT MADE TO DO THE, UH, SINGLE PLAN HEALTH BENEFITS TO, UH, HAVE SEPARATE DATA, I BELIEVE TO ELIMINATE THE DISCOVERY BENEFITS FLEX PLAN.

GO WITH THE SINGLE SERVER.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? TABLE, TABLE.

LONG, LONG, I THINK WE'LL DO A SEPARATE VOTE ON THE TABLE.

THIS MAKE MOTION.

MOTION TO TABLE A LONG TERM DISABILITY.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

THANK YOU LORD.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSION ACT ON APPOINTED ELECTION JUDGES FOR ALL ELECTIONS THROUGH JULY THROUGH AUGUST 31ST, 2013.

WE'VE GOT MR. BAKER HERE.

YOU WANNA COME UP AND PLAINTIFF WHAT OUR ROLES AND THIS IS YOU TRIED TO PLAY .

THEY DID A PRETTY GOOD, THANK YOU JOAN.

UH, I SEE MY DEMOCRATIC COUNTERPART IS NOT HERE AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THIS TOO.

HERE'S THE LAW.

WE'RE GOVERN BY AND Y'ALL ARE GOVERNED BY YOU.

THE PARTIES PICK JUDGES FOR THE, UH, PRIMARIES AND THEN IN AUGUST BECAUSE OF OUR SIZE, UH, WE ARE TO, UH, FILE AUGUST 1ST.

WE ARE TO GIVE Y'ALL A LIST OF JUDGES FOR THE, UH, GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

I HAVE DONE THAT.

UH, ME AND, UH, MR. CLARK HAD A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY ABOUT WHY SOME OF THESE JUDGES DO NOT LIVE IN THE PRECINCTS THAT THEIR JUDGES THEN, UH, MYSELF AND MS. WHITAKER HAD THE SAME PROBLEM.

WE GET, WE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT TO WORK AT CIRCLE LOCATIONS OR WE CANNOT FIND A PERSON THAT LIVES IN THAT PARTICULAR PRECINCT THAT WANTS TO SERVE AS AN ELECTION JUDGE.

SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF MOVE 'EM AROUND UNDER THE OLD LAWS, THE LEGISLATION, WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT UNTIL 20 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION.

THE LEGISLATION HAS NOW GIVEN US, GIVEN US, UH, AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD AS WE PRESENT OUR LIST TO Y'ALL AND, UH, AND PLUG IN PEOPLE, UH, WHERE THEY WILL WORK ON IN, UH, NOVEMBER.

UH, THIS LIST POSSIBLY COULD CHANGE.

UH, IF IT DOES, THEN I WILL SUBMIT THOSE CHANGES BACK TO Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL'S APPROVAL PRIOR TO THE NOVEMBER 6TH ELECTION, UH, IN MOST OF THE PRECINCTS OTHER THAN, UH, TWO, UH, THE ELECTION

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JUDGE BY STATUTE IS APPOINTED ACCORDING TO THE, WHO WON THE, UH, GOVERNOR'S RACE, UH, IN THAT PARTICULAR PRECINCT.

SO, AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FIVE IN 26, THE ELECTION JUDGE WILL BE A REPUBLICAN AND FIVE AND 26, THE ELECTION JUDGE WILL BE A DEMOCRAT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN ALTERNATE AND THAT THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE AN ALTERNATE AT THE, THE OTHER 28 LOCATIONS.

MS. BAKER, WHO, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIONS, UH, OF THOSE S THAT WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THE ACTIONS? WELL, IF, IF IT'S SOME TYPE OF, UH, IN PREPARATION, WELL, I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CORRECTLY.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHO'S RESPONSIBLE.

THE, THE, UH, IN THE PRIMARY, THE, UH, THE PARTY CHAIRMAN ARE RESPONSIBLE AND, UH, WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, THE ELECTIONS JU UH, ELECTIONS PEOPLE HERE IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE CONTRACT WITH THEM TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT, UH, UH, COME TO WORK AND, UH, PERFORM THEIR DUTIES IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER.

AND WE BOTH, SARAH AND I BOTH TRIED TO DO THAT.

AND THIS LAST, IT WAS KIND OF A, A, A BAD SITUATION WHERE WE HAD TO SET UP ON A HOLIDAY AND, UH, THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE.

HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

AND WE HAD AN ELECTION THE DAY AFTER THE HOLIDAY AND UH, UH, WE HAD AN INSTANCE ARISE THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.

UH, UH, THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT WAS, UH, TAKEN CARE OF AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN ON OUR PART.

IT'S GONNA BE MY INTENTIONS TO SEE IT DONE.

NOW IS THAT THE SAME JUDGE THAT YOU HAD THE UH, THE INCIDENT WITH? IS THAT SAME JUDGE ON THIS LIST? NO, SIR.

AND YOU SHOULD ALSO HAVE A LIST OF JUDGES FOR THE EARLY VOTING.

UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT LIST WITH ME, BUT HAS THE DEMOCRATIC CHAIR, HAVE THEY APPROVED THIS LIST? THEY WON'T HAVE TO APPROVE.

OH, THEY DON'T HAVE PROOF.

THEY, UH, THEY SHOULD HAVE, UH, SUBMITTED A LIST TO THE COURT.

WE'RE BOTH REQUIRED TO DO THAT.

UNDER THE STATUTE.

THERE IS A, THERE IS A DEMOCRAT LIST.

OKAY.

ASSUME WHAT THE ISSUE IS, NOT THE ISSUE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT AND FIND GENERAL JUDGES, YOU SHOULD ALREADY HAVE ALREADY DONE IT.

OTHERWISE WE'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN CHEROKEE THAT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BOTH PARTIES.

THE STATUTE SAYS WE SEND RECOMMENDATIONS TO Y'ALL.

Y'ALL ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE OUR FIRST PICK.

OH, REALLY? YES, I'M IN.

I LIKE THE REQUIRED BOARD.

WE DON'T NORMALLY HAVE MORE THAN ONE PICK FOR A, UH, FOR A JUDGE, BECAUSE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO, IT'S HARD TO FIND PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO, UH, TO DO THAT DUTY.

WE PAY THEM SO WELL AND THE DAYS ARE NOT VERY LONG, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT, WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD DEDICATED PEOPLE THAT SERVE AS ELECTION JUDGES AND WITH, WITH REDISTRICTING WHERE WE, WE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE EASIER, BUT, UH, IN SOME AREAS WE JUST HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING A LOT OF AREAS.

YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA WORK.

SOME AREAS YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT DON'T WORK.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO LEAVE.

WELL, THESE ARE DEDICATED PEOPLE THAT, THAT, UH, ARE DOING THIS SELECTION, WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE DONE PROPERLY, LEGALLY, AND FAIR.

WELL, IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO APPROVE, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR THAT MOTION.

SO MAY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? FAVOR? I THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING SET OF SPEED LIMIT AT 30 MILES AN HOUR PER COUNTY ROAD 3 54 IN LIN COUNTY PRECINCT.

THREE.

MOTION HEARING, HEARING, HEARING.

SECOND IN FAVOR, A.

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AYE.

OKAY, WE DECLARE A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT SETTING SPEED LIMIT AT 30 MILES AN AIR FOR COUNTY ROAD 3 54, COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT? IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SAY THE SPEED LIMIT? WELL, IT'S IN MY PRECINCT AND THAT ROAD DIDN'T HAVE A SPEED LIMIT SIGN AND MY RESEARCH DIDN'T SHOW THAT WE EVER ONE THERE.

SO IN ORDER TO, TO GET ONE, THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH COMMISSIONER COURT SESSION ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN SET ON THAT ROAD.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY WHAT DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANNA LIKE TO ADDRESS ON THE COMPANY? COULD, COULD YOU EXCUSE YOU, COULD YOU DE COULD YOU DESCRIBE THE ROAD THAT, IS IT A RESIDENTIAL WITH LOT OF TRAFFIC OR SOMETHING? YES, IT IS.

IT IS.

IT IS.

WELL IT IS, IT IS A COUNTY ROAD, BUT IT HAS HOUSES ON IT AND UH, IT'S BASICALLY THE MAIN ROUTE IN AND OUT THAT ARE IN RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT I HAVE.

IT'S OFF OF 80 PEACHES, YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS AND ROAD THAT GOES DOWN TO THE OLD LAKE, BUT IT NEVER HAD SPEED SIGNS ON THEM.

SO, AND UM, I THINK THEY HAVE SOME KIDS GET GREEN CHILDREN'S COMING DOWN THERE AND IT WAS KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE SPEED OF THE TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT'S FOR THOSE SIGNS.

IS THIS ALSO ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAD THE TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM THE UH, UH, THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE TRUCK.

THIS IS NOT THE TRUCK.

OKAY.

YES.

RIGHT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF THERE IS NO, AND SHERIFF MIGHT SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT IF THERE IS NO SPEED LIMIT SIGN ON IT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IT'S 55.

THAT'S WHAT A STATE TROOPER TOLD ME AT ONE TIME.

SO IF YOU HAVE NOT GOT A SIGN ON IT, I'M MR. SCURRY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE WORKED A WRECK ON SHADED LANE ONE TIME AND THE, UH, HIGHWAY PATROL HAD TO GO DOWN AND MAKE SURE THERE WAS A SIGN ON THAT ROAD WHEN WE WERE WORKING AN ACCIDENT.

SO, AND HE TOLD ME IF THERE'S NO SIGN THEN IT'S 55.

SO I RECOMMENDED DO THAT.

BASICALLY IT'S ANOTHER PROCEDURAL MATTER WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SIGN UP BEFORE YOU CAN ENFORCE THE SPEED LIMIT.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON IS GOING THROUGH THE VERY PROPER WAY OF DOING THAT IS HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE CAN'T JUST TRY TO GO UP THERE AND SET A SPEED LIMIT ON IT ROAD WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING, OR IF YOU DO THAT, YOU REALLY CAN'T ENFORCE IT.

SO THIS IS GIVES SOME ENFORCEMENT ABILITY, UM, WHO DETERMINED THAT 30 MILES AN HOUR WAS THE PROPER SPEED LIMIT.

THAT'S JUST A QUESTION IS, IS IT 30 SHOULD BE 40.

I MEAN, WHY DID YOU DETERMINE 30 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER? THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING IS TO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO GO LESS THAN 30, 30 IS THE MINIMUM AS WE CAN GO DOWN TO AND IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD BE A REASONABLE AND PRUDENT SPEED ON THE ROAD.

RIGHT.

AND, AND WOULD THE SHERIFF HAVE SOME INPUT ON THAT? ON, ON, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY SPEED FOR THAT ROAD? I COULDN'T SPEAK AND TELL YOU BECAUSE I GO OUT AND SURVEY THE ROAD AND I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE.

IT WOULD DEPEND ON OBVIOUSLY THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC AND NUMBER OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE UP AND DOWN THE ROAD AND ALSO THE CONDITIONAL ROADWAY.

WELL, I THINK IS THERE A RECORD OF A LOT OF ACCIDENTS ON THAT ROAD FOR EXCESSIVE FEET OR MUCH? UH, THIS IS, THERE'S NOT, I DON'T HAVE A RECORD OF ACCIDENT OUT THERE, BUT IT, IT STILL SHOWS THE, THE OF SAFETY.

IF, IF, UH, A TAXPAYER CALLED ME AND SAID, I HAVE KIDS OR GRANDKIDS OUT HERE AND PEOPLE ARE DRIVING 50, 40, 50 OR 60 MILES AN HOUR ON THE ROAD, WE DON'T HAVE A SPEED SIGN.

I, I THINK IT'S MY DUTY TO CHECK INTO THAT.

AND IF I CAN GET THE SPEED SIGN TO 30 FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE I AGREE.

MY RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THE RECORD CAN'T REFLECT WHO'S SPEAKING OR WHO'S ASKING QUESTIONS.

AND TYPICALLY IN THE PUBLIC HEARING FORM SOMEONE THAT'S IDENTIFIED CONCERN, IF YOU CAN DO THAT SO THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT SHE'S RECORD SPEAKING OR ASKING QUESTIONS AND IT'S TYPICALLY PRESENTING STATEMENTS.

IF THE COURT DOESN'T WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S FINE.

BUT THINK TYPICALLY IT'S, IT'S DONE THAT WAY.

BEHAVIOR.

YEAH.

THE COURT WANTS TO FOLLOW OUR ATTORNEYS.

IT PASSED.

SO I JUST WANT IT SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR.

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CORRECT.

MY NAME'S JEFF MORLAND.

I'M IN COUNTY AND I I MY QUESTION, I I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THERE.

I'M CONCERNED WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

I JUST THINK WE SHOULD GET A LITTLE INPUT ON WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE SPEED FOR THAT ROAD BEFORE WE JUST ARBITRARILY PUT ONE STICK A NUMBER ON THERE.

I'M TOM MANNING AND ALL MY ROADS IN THE PRECINCT THAT ARE MARKED, THEY'RE ALL AT 30 MILES AN HOUR AND I, I HADN'T MARKED ANY OF 'EM, BUT THEY'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY MARKED BY PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS AT 30 MILES AN HOUR.

OH, MR. BAKER, MR. MR. BILL, BAKER AND I LIVE IN PRECINCT THREE, JC, IS THAT A DEAD END ROAD? WELL, AT ONE TIME IT WAS CLOSED, BUT IT'S KIND OF OPEN, UH, DOWN TO A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE ROAD.

A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE ROAD IS, IS IS THE CHIP SEAL ROAD AND THE REMAINING PART OF IT IS A DIRT ROAD GOING DOWN TOWARDS THE LAKE, BUT WHERE THE RESIDENT, WHERE THE RESIDENTS STAY AND WHERE THE HOUSES ARE, IT'S CHIP SEAL, SO IT'S A SMOOTHER SURFACE AND THEY COULD DRIVE FASTER.

UH, AND SO I'VE GOT, I'VE GOTTEN A PHONE CALL FROM THE RESIDENTS DOWN THERE CONCERNING THAT AND THAT'S REASON WHY IT'S ON THE, SO THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES FOR ENTRANCE AND EXIT.

TWO DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN RIGHT.

EXIT OR ENTRANCE OR COME INTO THAT ROAD.

WHAT? THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN COME OFF OF 80 OR YOU CAN COME OFF OF SOMEWHERE ELSE YEAH.

ON THAT ROAD, RIGHT? IT'S NOT DEAD END.

NO.

STEVE HOOD, THE COMM, UH, COUNTY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

WE MIGHT WANT TO CHECK BECAUSE IN SOME OF MY RESEARCH WHEN I WAS WORKING ON SOME OF THE UH, FLOOD CONTROL DAMS IN THAT AREA, I WAS TOLD THAT THE SECTION THAT HAS NOT GOT THE ROCK ON IT BEYOND THAT LAST HOUSE WAS, UH, DECOMMISSIONED AND, AND UH, LET GO.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD PERTAIN TO IT OR NOT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN SOME OF MY RESEARCH THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK INTO THAT BEYOND THE HOUSES IS REALLY NOT A ROAD ANYMORE.

ALL THE WAY TO THE, TO THE NEW CITY OF CAROL LAKE.

WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ON SAY THE, ON THE COUNTY, WHATEVER PART IS THE COUNTY PART IS THE PART THAT'S WE'RE INTERESTED TO SPEAK, CORRECT JACKSON? THAT'S CORRECT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC FAVOR? FAVOR A AYE.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS AND APPROVED SETTING SPEED LIMIT 30 MILES AN HOUR FOR COUNTY ROAD 3 54 AT PRECINCT THREE AND PLACING 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ON COUNTY ROAD 3 54.

BUT SINCE WE FINISHED WITH THE PUBLIC, I HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS I'LL MAKE A MOTION MILE AN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A AYE.

NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSSING, CONSIDERING SOME DISBURSEMENT OF THE UNCLAIMED CAPITAL CREDIT FUND AND THIS WAS SOME MONEY THAT, UH, OUR COUNTY JUDGE DISCOVERED THAT WE WERE NOT GETTING.

IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE A LOT OF MONEY.

UH, IT WAS WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? 118 FIVE.

OKAY, PERFECT.

YEAH, $118 FROM THE CLAIM CREDIT FROM CAPITAL CREDIT ELECTRIC CO-OPS.

UH, THERE'S SOME STATUTES IN HERE THAT SAYS WHAT WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR.

ONE OF THE ITEMS OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF THE COUNTY MAY SUPPORT A CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY SETTING THAT PROVIDES SERVICES TO ABUSED CHILDREN.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, USE THIS $118 AND 5 CENTS TO GO TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

NEXT WE HAVE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PERSON SELF-PROPELLED ROOM FOR PRECINCT TWO OVER BRIDGE THROUGH THE BY BOARD COOPERATIVE PERSON CONTRACT.

JACK.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT QUOTE, UH, BY MACHINERY COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO WANTS TO PURCHASE THAT BROOM AND THAT IS ON, ON AGAIN ON THE BY CONTRACT.

WE MET ALL REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS THE BID PROCEDURE, UH, THE PRICE MR. PRICE WAS 50,136 AND WITH THAT BEING A DEMO, UH, THE FINAL COST DOWN TO 30 2002

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19.

ONCE AGAIN, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS MAKE RECOMMENDATION.

ANY DISCUSSION THAT WILL BASICALLY FREE UP THE BRING THAT WE GOT.

I BELIEVE THAT YOU, YOU YOU'RE CURRENTLY USING DOWN THERE TELL YOU THAT DON'T NEED TO BRING USING.

I SURE APPRECIATE YOU LOAN THAT ROOM BECAUSE I SURE NEED.

YEAH, IT'S, THIS IS AN ITEM WE CAN'T USE EVERY DAY, SO IT'LL BE AVAILABLE.

WHATEVER STATED ALL YOU DO IS CALL WELL I THAT WE PURCHASED THE SELF PROPELLED ROOF PRECINCT TWO ROAD BRIDGE WITH THE BY BOARD COOPERATIVE PERSON CONTRACT.

SECOND JUDGE.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? WHO SECONDED THAT? I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU.

AYE, AYE.

DISCUSSING CONSIDER ADVERTISING BID BEDFORD COUNTY ROAD THREE 14 IN PRECINCT THREE GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE ROAD THAT, UH, MR. JACKSON HAS BEEN WORKING ON SOME TIME, UH, TO GET THAT REPAIR.

IT'S ZERO COST FOR THE MINIMAL COST FOR COUNTY ON THAT.

IT, IT, UH, THREE FOURTEENS DOWN WHERE THE HAS ROCK.

THEY USING APPROXIMATELY 800 TO THOUSAND.

THEY'RE TO COME BACK AND ASPHALT THAT 80 AND ALSO, UH, PUT IN A, UH, CONCRETE AT THE ENTRANCE WHERE THE OIL TRUCKS ARE TURNING OUT TO MAINTAIN AND THERE SHOULD BE NO COST TO THE COUNTY, THE MATERIAL AND .

SO, UH, THEY COME THROUGH THE COUNTY AND HAS TO WORK THROUGH FIRST AGENCY AND, UM, THE COME IN WOULD FIRST TRINITY, THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE FINANCE AND I THINK AGAIN, THAT'S DEPENDING ON THE TOTAL COST.

I CASE THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PROJECT OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD.

I, I'M SURE THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO, THEY HAD TOLD ME THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT.

SO I PROPOSE CLOSING THAT BID ON, UH, UH, 30 SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH AT TWO O'CLOCK 2:00 PM AND OPEN AT 2:30 PM AT THE SOUTH CAMPUS.

UH, I RESERVE A RIGHT TO CHANGE THAT.

IT NEED BE PENDING AVAILABILITY OF THE ENGINEER.

OBJECTION, HONOR.

IS THERE MOTION TO CONSIDER ADVERTISE FOR THE DEAL? I MAKE A MOTION.

UH, COL COUNTY A MY COMMISSIONER JACKSON ABOUT COMMISSIONER MANNING.

ALL IN FAVOR.

I DISCUSS CONSIDER ADVERTISING A BID FOR ANNUAL CONTRACTOR OFFICE SUPPLIES, GIVEN THAT TIME, ONCE AGAIN TO REBUILD THE OP SUPPLY CONTRACT.

AND, UH, I WOULD ALSO USE SAME DATES AND OPENING TWO.

SO, MOTION.

DOES THIS INCLUDE OUR DISCOUNTED TRAILER LOAD? YES, IT DOES, SIR.

IS THE TRADE LOAD POINT IN THE TRUCKLOAD TUNNEL? YEAH, IT'S, BUT WE AIN'T GOT ANY RAILROAD TRACKS DOWN THERE.

WE'LL TRY TO GET THE LOAD PRICE UP.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

SECOND OFFICE WE HAVE AND STEVE GEORGE EXTENSION HOR PRESENT.

GOOD MORNING.

I'D APOLOGIZE TO YOU FOR NOT MOVING THIS UP ON THE DINNER, MAKING YOU SIT THERE, BUT IT'S OKAY.

YOU MAKE ME SIT THROUGH A MEETING.

IT'S FINE.

I LIKE I ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

UH, GIVE Y'ALL COME INTRODUCE YOU, DR.

STEVE GEORGE.

DR. GEORGE IS HORTICULTURE OUT OF OUR OFFICE IN DALLAS.

UH, HE IS, UH, I DUNNO, ONE OF THE PREMIER HORTICULTURE I KNOW.

UH, I'VE MET A LOT OF THE TWO STATES I'VE WORKED IN.

UH, STEVE IS, UH, WELL KNOWN ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AS, UH, AS A, A LANDSCAPE PERSON, A PERSON THAT BEAUTIFIES THE WORLD BASICALLY, AND, UH, HAS STARTED THE EARTH KIND MOVEMENT.

UH,

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WE'RE HERE, REALLY, I, I'LL KIND OF WISH THE JUDGE HERE.

THE JUDGE CAME TO, UH, TO ME BACK IN LATE MAY AND ASKED ME IF THE EXTENSION SERVICE AND THE MASTER GARDENERS COULD HELP BEAUTIFY OUR REALLY NOT SO GOOD LOOKING COURTHOUSE, UH, LONG TIME AGO.

OKAY.

UH, THE WAY I WORK AS AN EXTENSION AGENT IS I PUT OUT SCIENTIFIC BASE INFORMATION.

IF I DON'T KNOW SOMETHING, I GO TO SOMEBODY AND I FIND SOMEBODY THAT DOES KNOW HOW TO DO SOMETHING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, I TALKED ABOUT WITH THE JUDGE WAS DOING THINGS THAT DIDN'T HAVE MUCH, THAT DIDN'T USE A LOT OF WATER.

WE ALL KNOW THAT WATER IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN OUR STATE AND PROBABLY GONNA BE ALREADY IN OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY, UH, ONE DAY.

BUT THE STATE OF TEXAS IS IN A, A TERRIBLE, UH, PROBLEM WITH, WITH OUR WATER RESOURCES.

AND WE TRY TO DO THINGS WITH ANY EXTENSION SERVICE THAT SAVE WATER.

WELL, ONE APPROACH TO LANDSCAPING IS, IS CALLED EARTH KIND.

AND THAT IS A TYPE OF LANDSCAPING THAT, UH, CONSERVE WATER RESOURCES.

UH, STEVE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, IN DEVELOPING THAT PROGRAM AND HAS SHOWN THAT IT WORKS ACROSS THE STATE, UH, IN THE LOSS OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

I SAT DOWN WITH, WITH THE JUDGE, UH, STEVE.

I ACTUALLY, UH, WHEN I SAY I, I GET PEOPLE THAT KNOW THINGS I DON'T, BUT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT COWS, GRASS OR HORSES, UH, I MIGHT BE THE GUY TO COME TALK TO.

WHEN IT COMES TO HORTICULTURE, I DO NOT HAVE A HORTICULTURE DEGREE, AND, UH, I DON'T THE BEST TO HAVE ONE.

SO I WENT AND FOUND AT SOMEBODY THAT DID, AND STEVE CAME OVER AND LOOKED AT OUR COURTHOUSE.

UH, WE WALKED THE GROUND, UH, SPENT A LONG TIME WITH NATE LUNCH WITH THE JUDGE.

UH, HE KIND OF LAID OUT A PLAN.

HE THOUGHT MIKE WORKED FOR US AND NOT WORKED FOR US.

AND, UH, UH, WE, WE'VE KIND OF DONE SOME OF THAT RIGHT IN FRONT.

AND Y'ALL KNOWS THE COURTHOUSE LOOKS PRETTY GOOD NOW.

I THOUGHT THAT, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR LOOKS, LOOKS QUITE WELL, UH, PLANT SELECTIONS AND STUFF THAT, UH, THE MASTER GARDENERS, UH, DID.

I THINK IT LOOKS QUITE WELL.

WE, UH, UH, IT'LL CONTINUE ON, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE EXTENSION SERVICE IS GOING TO FIT IN HERE.

WE'RE AN EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATION AND AUTOMATIC WORKING ORGANIZATION.

WE, UH, SO THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT STEVE HERE TO TALK ABOUT EARTH COUNTY.

AND, UH, WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, WE WERE GONNA DO A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, BUT WE FIGURED IN, IN THE, UH, INTEREST OF TIME HERE THAT WE WOULDN'T, UH, I, OUR APPROACH TO WHAT WE WOULD DO AROUND THE COURTHOUSE WOULD, WOULD BE TO USE THESE PRINCIPLES.

I'M NOT GONNA READ THEM TO YOU.

YOU ALL READ, UH, PLENTY WELL ENOUGH.

BUT, UH, IF YOU READ THROUGH THE FIRST FOUR SLIDES HERE, YOU WOULD SEE THAT EARTH KIND IS AN APPROACH TO SAVING WATER, UH, TO REDUCING FERTILIZER AND INSECTICIDE USE, UH, LANDSCAPING, UH, FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION, AND TO KEEP THINGS FROM GOING TO THE .

ALSO, THERE'S HERE, IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE IT IN, UH, IN FUTURE LANDSCAPING OF THE COURTHOUSE, AS THAT PROBABLY PROGRESSES.

THERE'S SOME, SOME PICTURES OF SOME RESEARCH SITES IN, UH, IN COLLIN COUNTY.

UH, DR.

GREG CHURCH UP IN COLLIN COUNTY HAS DONE AN EXTENSIVE EARTH KIND PLANNING OF PLANTS.

AND, UH, THESE, SOME PLANTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE RESEARCH, SOME LIVE AND SOME DIE, THE ONES YOU GOT LIVE, UH, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE WELL ADAPTED TO OUR PART OF THE STATE AND, UH, AND WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OF SOME THINGS YOU COULD PUT AROUND THE COURTHOUSE.

I'M GONNA, UH, TURN THIS OVER TO STEVE AND LET HIM TELL YOU WHAT HIS FINDINGS WERE, UH, OF OUR COURTHOUSE AREA.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

I WANT TO, TO TELL YOU HOW LUCKY YOU ARE TO HAVE, UH, RALPH DAVIS, IN MY OPINION, HE'S ONE OF THE TOP AGENTS IN THIS ENTIRE STATE.

UH, I'M HONORED TO WORK WITH A PERSON OF HIS QUALITY.

UH, HE AND I ARE EDUCATORS.

EARTH KIND IS, UH, DELIGHTED TO, TO TELL YOU BASED ON THE GREAT WORK OF MY TEAMMATES, IS THE MOST POPULAR UNIVERSITY PROGRAM OF ITS KIND IN THE NATION.

IT'S A NEW APPROACH TO ENVIRONMENTAL LANDSCAPE MANAGEMENT.

WE WANT YOU TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL, PRODUCTIVE LANDSCAPES WITH MINIMAL MAINTENANCE.

SO THIS IS GONNA SAVE YOU MONEY, AND WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH MAXIMUM PROTECTION FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO WE, WE'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESEARCH.

WE'VE SHOWN TIME AGAIN ACROSS THIS STATE AND ACROSS IN SEVERAL OTHER STATES THAT WHEN WITH YOUR LANDSCAPE EDGES NOT TURF.

NOW TURF IS A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION, BUT ALL YOUR LANDSCAPE PLANNING, IF YOU FOLLOW EARTH TIME PRINCIPLES, YOU CAN REDUCE WATERING BY 70%.

70 0%.

WE ASK THAT YOU NEVER FERTILIZE, EVER.

AND FROM

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DALLAS TO THE EAST COAST, IN A NORMAL RAINFALL YEAR OVER FERTILIZATION IS PROBABLY THE GREATEST ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN.

ALMOST NEVER WILL YOU HAVE TO APPLY ANY PESTICIDES.

AND A MULCH, WHICH IS A BLANKET MATERIAL ON THE SOIL SURFACE, IS SO HELPFUL TO THE SOIL AND THE PLANTS.

AND THE BEST MULCH IS JUST RAW CHOP TO TREE LIMBS THAT IN MANY COMMUNITIES OTHERWISE ARE HEADED FOR THE LANDFILLS WHERE THEY'RE A HUGE PROBLEM.

SO EARTH KIND IS A GREAT ENVIRONMENTAL VICTORY FOR YOUR COUNTY AS WELL.

TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL PLANTS, GLOOMING PLANTS, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE SUNLIGHT.

AND YOU HAVE BEEN DEALT A VERY TOUGH HAND OVER HERE.

UH, LIVE OAKS CAST A VERY DENSE SHADE, AND IT'S A YEAR ROUND SHADE.

SO IF YOU TRY AND GROW PLANTS UNDER IT, THE PLANTS WOULD NEVER GET A BREAK FROM THAT SHADE.

SO IF YOU HAD SUNLIGHT, WE WOULD'VE VERY WIDE RANGE OF BEAUTIFUL PLANTS.

BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF SHADE THAT YOU HAVE, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS 32 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE LIVE OAKS WHERE THEIR CANOPIES ARE ALMOST TOUCHING, UH, EVENTUALLY YOU CAN'T EVEN GROW.

I MEAN, YOU FORGET GROWING GRASS EVENTUALLY.

YOU CAN'T EVEN GROW BROAD TO EVERGREEN GROUND COVERS, WHICH IS A GROUP OR MUCH MORE SHADED TOP AT THAT POINT.

ALL YOU CAN DO IS MULCH IT OR DECK IT OR PAVE IT.

SO, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BE VERY PLEASED WITH EARTH KIND THAT EVEN EARTH KIND CANNOT OVERCOME ALL THE TIME.

OKAY? I'VE SAID THROUGH A FEW OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS AND, UH, YOU ARE AN EXPERT IN IT.

AND THE KEY WORD THAT YOU DID THIS WELL, NEVER, NEVER WATERED, NEVER FERTILIZER, NEVER IZED.

THAT'S NOT SAVING THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE MONEY.

BUT THEN, YET NOW, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YOU DO, YOU, YOU DO HAVE TO WATER SOME, BUT THAT A 70% SAVINGS, RALPH AND I WAS TRYING TO, UH, SQUEEZE SOME MONEY OUT NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER TO HAVE THIS COURTHOUSE PROJECT.

IF A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT WON'T HAVE TO SAVE MONEY, BECAUSE THIS NOT ONLY WILL SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY IF RESIDENTS WOULD DO THE SAME THING, IT COULD SAVE US A LOT OF WATER PERIOD OF TIME, FERTILIZER OFF TIME.

YOU'RE VERY MUCH AWARE WHAT THAT DOES TO US.

AND YOU COULD, YOU COULD BE A LEADER IN NOT ONLY THIS STATE, BUT IN THE, THE, THE A NATION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF COURTHOUSES THAT ARE FACING THE VERY SAME PROBLEM THAT YOU'VE HAD.

AND, UH, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY, OH, WELL, YOU NEVER CUT DOWN A TREE.

WELL, OF COURSE YOU DO IF THE TREE IS AN ACTIVE DETRIMENT.

SO IF I COULD WAVE MY MAGIC WAND, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU IS THAT YOU, IS THAT YOU TAKE OUT THE TROUBLESOME TREES, YOU CAN COME BACK IN AND YOU CAN HAVE THE SAME TOTAL NUMBER OF TREES WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE AS YOU DO NOW, THEY WOULD BE SMALLER SPECIES AND BETTER CHOSEN SPECIES WHERE THEY WOULD GIVE YOU OVER A MUCH GREATER PERIOD OF THE, OF THE YEAR THAT THAT'S, SO THAT'S THE RALPH AND I ARE PAID TO SPEAK TO SCIENTIFIC TREAT.

THAT'S THE SCIENTIFIC, I'VE, I'VE THROWN THIS OUT.

YOU KNOW, I THREW THIS QUESTION OUT WHOLE MONTH, SIX WEEKS AGO, AND I'VE HEARD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RUMORS ABOUT THE COUNTY AGENTS GONNA CUT ALL THE TREES DOWN THERE IN COURTHOUSE.

WELL, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

, UH, NUMBER ONE, I I CAN'T PHYSICALLY DO IT AND I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

UH, UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS LAY OUT A PLAN FOR YOU.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE IN COURT TO SAY THAT.

UH, THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT IF YOU WANT A BEAUTIFUL BLOOMING LANDSCAPE, THEN YOU HAVE TO REMOVE SOME TREES FROM COURTHOUSE.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE THE GROUND COVER AND THE LITTLE SPROUTS FROM THE OAK TREES GOING UP, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAD.

NOW, I'VE HEARD THAT YOU CUT THIS TREE DOWN'S GONNA MAKE MY BUILDING TOO HOT.

I DON'T KNOW.

MY OFFICE IS GOING TO BE TOO HOT, THOUGH.

THAT MAY BE THE CASE.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK UP THERE TO SHAPE IT.

BUT THERE, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE COMMENDING DR. GEORGE IS TO, UH, REMOVE SELECTED TREES AROUND THE COURTHOUSE IN ORDER TO ALLOW SUNSHINE AND PENETRATION DOWN IN THERE TO WHERE WE GROW FLOWERS.

CORRECT.

OKAY, WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE.

I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF INPUT SINCE THE RUMORS FLEW.

EVERYBODY CALLED ME BECAUSE

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I WAS INVOLVED IN A LITTLE TRIM PROJECT, UH, BACK IN THE EARLY SPRING.

AND, UH, IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THE CONSENSUS OF THE PEOPLE, WHICH MAY NOT BE THE WISEST, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S GOT ME SITTING UP HERE ON THE BENCH, AND, UH, THEY DON'T, THEY'D RATHER HAVE THEIR TREES OUT THERE THAN FLY.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S STRICTLY THE INPUT THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM PEOPLE.

AND I FEEL BASICALLY FEEL THE SAME WAY.

THAT'S A HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT CONSIDER IT THE PRETTIEST BUILDING IN THE WORLD, BUT I IT'S OUR COURTHOUSE.

I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

UH, AND, UH, I I COULD SEE TRIMMING THE TREES BY PROFESSIONAL TREE TRIMMING.

IN OTHER WORDS, I'VE DONE LOTS OF TREE TRIMMING IN MY DAY, BUT, UH, I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL BY ANY MEANS.

BUT, UH, AS FAR AS REMOVING ANY OF THE TREES I'D LIKE TO STATE TO THE COURT, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF REMOVING NOT ONE AROUND THE, THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, TOM, TOM, I THINK THAT'S FINE.

I THINK THAT'S ROBBERY BILL WAS TO COME HERE AT THE COURT AND LAY OUT THE SCIENCE TO YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE JUDGE ASKED US TO DO.

YES, SIR.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND WE ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE JUDGE ASKED.

AND I, I'VE EXPRESSED IT TO THE JUDGE.

I'D RATHER HAVE OUR LIVE OAK TREES OUT THERE THAN A BUNCH OF FLOWERS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MANNING.

'CAUSE WE, WE ALWAYS, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON THINGS.

BUT TOM, THAT'S NOT THE PRETTIEST COURT ANSWER.

MY YES.

IT'S, BUT I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST SO OFFICER ARE OPEN, WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'D LIKE TO VISUALIZE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST A TREE HERE? A TREE THERE? YOU TALKING ABOUT CLEAN, CLEAN CUT FOREST OR WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? HERE'S, HERE'S, HERE'S AN OPTION, UH, AT, ON SOME OTHER COUNTY PROPERTY THAT'S OUT IN FULL SUM.

THAT, THAT YOU HAVE PLANS TO, UH, DO SOME, UH, LANDSCAPING IN RALPH.

AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO, TO TRY THE EARTH KIND APPROACH ON JUST ONE BED SO THAT THAT AVOIDS ALL OF THE POLITICAL ASPECTS.

SO DON'T EVEN DO IT AT THE COURTHOUSE, BUT WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING TO DO ELSEWHERE IN THE, IN THE COUNTY AND IT'S IN FULL SUM, I THINK YOU'LL BE VERY PLEASED WITH YOUR ECONOMY.

I AGREE.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

YES, I AGREE WITH THAT.

IF, IF IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE, UH, ADAM'S SON USE COUNTY.

OUR, OUR OUR COUNTY HAS, UH, , I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT, UH, OUR, OUR COUNTY HAS GOT ALL LAW PLACES THAT, LET'S TAKE A LIBRARY FOR INSTANCE.

YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT'S A VERY PROMINENT BUILDING.

UH, WE KIND OF LET THE LANDSCAPING GO IN IT.

UH, IT COULD USE A LITTLE BIT OF SPITING UP AND WHATNOT.

IT'S THE LITTLE SUN, WHOLE LIBRARY, LITTLE SUN.

WE COULD USE EARTH DOWN THERE.

BUT WHEN WE SAY THAT, THEN WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIRT, UH, MAYBE, UH, CHANGING THE ENTIRE IRRIGATION SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE CAN GO TO DRIFT AND, AND, UH, IN CONSERVED WATER, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WATER.

I DO A LOT OF WATER EDUCATION.

UH, I GO TO LOTS OF WATER PROGRAMS. UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WATER GOING STATE FOR MY GRANDDAUGHTER.

EXPECT I AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT I ALSO, UH, I ALSO KNOW FROM THE INPUT OF THE CITIZENS THAT THAT PUT ME UP HERE, THAT, UH, THEY HAVE MORE CONCERNS, UH, THAT ARE MORE URGENT TO THEM THAN SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY, LANDSCAPING, EVERY COUNTY BUILDING.

I REALIZE THAT AESTHETICS ARE, ARE, UH, VERY IMPORTANT.

UH, BUT IT'S NOT AS IMPORTANT AS, AS FIXING SOME OF THESE ROADS THAT WE'VE GOT OUT HERE IN THE COUNTY.

AND, UH, TENDING OUR BUSINESS.

WE, UH, WE'VE MADE GREAT STRIDES IN IMPROVING OUR BUDGET.

AND, UH, BUT WE'RE NOT OUT OF WOODS BY ANY MEANS YET.

COST OF OPERATIONS JUST KEEPS RISING, RISING.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO, NOTHING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO THERE'S PLACES THAT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PUT THE CLAMP ON.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR LAWN MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPING ANYWAY, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST CAN'T SEE GOING THROUGH IT AND SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY ON, ON PLANTS AND BUSHES AND FLOWER JUST TO CATCH SOMEBODY'S EYE.

I, I REALLY, I I REALLY GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE I, UH, I ROAD BRIDGE FUNDS BEEN CUT AND, UH,

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BECAUSE THE INSURANCE GOING UP, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THE FUEL HAS GONE UP ANOTHER 30 CENTS IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT AGAINST PLANTING ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, OR IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT LET'S, LET'S, UH, I JUST, UH, I JUST WANT US TO BE EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE IN ANYTHING WE THAT WE DO.

I, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT MAY NEED LANDSCAPE, I'D SAY LAY OFF OF 'EM A WHILE UNTIL WE HEAL UP LITTLE BIT.

THIS, THIS PROGRAM MIGHT WORK SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY.

MY CONCERN IS FOR SOME REASON TALK THE COURTHOUSE.

I LIKE COMMISSION, MAN.

I THINK THE COURTHOUSE PROBABLY HE STATING THE WAY IT'S AS FAR AS AND STUFF.

I HEARD HIM SAY THAT, UH, SOME COUNTIES COURTHOUSE GOT THE SUN TO BE IN THE SUN.

I DON'T, THE PROGRAM MIGHT WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE.

TALKING THE COURTHOUSE.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE, WELL, WE, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I WOULD SAY .

WE WERE, WE WERE ASKED BY THE JUDGE OUR BEST ADVICE ON HOW TO IMPROVE THAT, THE LANDSCAPING AT THE COURTHOUSE.

SO SEE WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, UH, SCIENTIFIC QUESTION, WHICH WE'RE TO, UH, ADDRESS AND THEN THERE'S A, UH, POLITICAL ISSUE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST HERE TO DO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT US TO, OKAY, TO COME BY.

PROBABLY DO.

PUT I MAKE COUNTY COURT LAW.

I NEED TO INCREASE THEIR DUES ON ITEM 30.

I DECREASE THEIR TRAINING.

EDUCATION, COUNTY CLERK, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES NEEDS TO BE INCREASED BY 1100.

THEY'RE DUE BY TWO 11 AND I'M GONNA REDUCE THEIR INDEXING.

AND BY 13, TO BALANCE THAT DEFENSE, MS DUES NEED TO BE INCREASED BY 138, DECREASING THE OFFICE SUPPLIES BY 138.

GENERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICE SUPPLIES INCREASED BY 10,000.

CELL PHONES AND PARTS BY 12,020 2000 FROM POSTAGE, JUDICIAL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVE TO INCREASE THE PSYCHIC EXAM BY $50.

UH, TAKING THE 50 FOR MEDICAL, A JURY FUND, UH, PETTY JURORS BY 5,000.

INCREASED SPECIAL COURT REPORTER, DECREASED BY 5,000 ELECTION EXPENSE.

SALARY JUDGES AND CLERKS.

I NEED TO INCREASE BY 7,000 BALLOTS AND SUPPLIES.

I WANT TO DECREASE BY SEVEN CONSTABLE PRECINCT.

ONE DUES NEED TO BE INCREASED BY PARTY.

MISCELLANEOUS DECREASE BY PARTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT.

TWO PARTS AND REPAIRS INCREASED BY HUNDRED BONDS INCREASED BY 35.

OFFICE SUPPLIES DECREASED BY HUNDRED 35 CONSTABLE PRECINCT.

FOUR PARTS AND REPAIRS INCREASED BY 700.

DECREASED NEW EQUIPMENT BY 700.

AND THE SHERIFF'S FUNDS, I NEED TO INCREASE HIS OFFICE SUPPLIES BY 2000.

RADIO REPAIR I NEED TO INCREASE BY 300.

INVESTIGATIVE SER SUPPORT SERVICES INCREASE BY 1500.

ANIMAL CONTROL EXPENSES NEED TO BE INCREASED BY 2000.

RIGHT IN FINGERPRINT EQUIPMENT.

I WANT TO DECREASED BY 3,800.

UH, EXCHANGE CARS.

I WANT TO TO DECREASE BY 2000 BECAUSE THERE WAS ADDITIONAL MONEY PUT

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THERE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND UNDER THE JAILS BUDGET.

EMPLOYEE PRE-HIRE SCREEN, I NEED TO INCREASE BY 2000, DECREASE THEIR UNIFORMS BY 2000.

UH, COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY.

THIS IS WHERE ALL OF OUR COMPUTER STUFF IS DONE.

WE NEED TO INCREASE THE COMPUTER REPAIRS BY 2000 AND DECREASE THE GSA DISPATCH SOFTWARE BY 2000.

WE'VE ALREADY PAID THE ANNUAL, UH, PROBATE AND LCY ATTORNEY FEES.

I NEED TO INCREASE BY 800.

I WANT TO DECREASE COUNTY CLERK FEES BY EIGHT GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS.

I NEED TO INCREASE THE TRANSFER TO THE SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE BY 48 75.

AND I NEED TO DECREASE THE TRANSFER TO GENERAL, UH, RIGHT OF WAY BY 48 75.

UH, ROAD BRIDGE ONE.

LEASE PAYMENTS NEED TO BE INCREASED TO 19,000.

ROAD MATERIALS, UH, IS TO DECREASE BY 19 ROAD BRIDGE.

TWO SUPPLIES NEED TO INCREASE BY THOUSAND TOOLS AND NEW EQUIPMENT TO PAY FOR WHAT WAS JUST PAID.

UH, FRUIT BY 40,000.

I WANT TO TAKE 41,000 FROM THE LEASE PAYMENTS ROAD BRIDGE.

THREE UTILITIES I NEED TO INCREASE BY 1500.

COMPUTER EQUIPMENT SOFTWARE BY $20 INCREASE.

AND FROM TOOLS AND NEW EQUIPMENT, UM, DECREASE BY 1520.

JUVENILE PROBATION, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT FUND.

IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH GENERAL ROAD AND BRIDGE.

UH, PART-TIME, UH, SALARIES FOR THE STATE NEED TO INCREASE BY 13,000 OPERATING TO INCREASE BY 6,000.

NON-RESIDENTIAL COUNTY.

35 NON-RESIDENTIAL STATE BY 31 55.

TRANSPORTATION BY COUNTY INCREASED BY 6,700.

THEN I WANT TO DECREASE SALARY.

PROBATION OFFICER STATE BY 13,000.

SALARY PROBATION OFFICER COUNTY BY 6,700.

PLACEMENT SERVICES 9,800.

PLACEMENT SERVICE STATE 31 55.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND PART OF OUR, THEIR MONEY COMES FROM THE GENERAL, THE OTHER PART COMES FROM THE STATE AND IT'S PRO RAT THROUGH HER WHOLE BUDGET.

AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IF SHE GETS, UH, JUVENILE PROBATION DEFUND.

I NEED TO INCREASE MISCELLANEOUS BY 1500.

I WANT TO DECREASE NON-RESIDENTIAL SERVICES BY 15 COURTHOUSE SECURITY.

MISCELLANEOUS NEEDS, UH, TO BE INCREASED BY 200 MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING.

DECREASED BY 200 JUVENILE PROBATION IVE NON-RESIDENTIAL SERVICES, 5,200 EXTRA HELP.

I WANT TO DECREASE BY 5,000.

AND SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THEIR PART-TIME HEALTH BY 200.

BALANCE IT OUT.

UH, THE LONE STAR LIBRARY, WHICH IS FUND 1 0 4, UH, WE NEED TO INCREASE THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY FOR ABOUT $360.

I NEED TO DECREASE THEIR BEGINNING BALANCE BY 1 0 9 AND THEIR TRAINING, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE.

I NEED TO INCREASE BY 469.

THAT'S IN FUND 1 0 4, FUND 72, WHICH IS COMMITMENT REDUCTION PROGRAM.

I NEED TO INCREASE STATE COMPTROLLER'S PAYMENT TO $10,000.

AND THE RESIDENTIAL SERVICE I NEED TO DECREASE BY 10,000.

THE STATE INCREASED THEIR BUDGET FOR, UM, FUND 48, WHICH IS SOLID WASTE CONVENIENCE.

I NEED TO INCREASE THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND BY 48 75.

AND I NEED TO DECREASE THE HOLLY COST TO KAUFMAN BY 48 75.

THAT'S IN FUND 48, WHICH THERE WAS SOMETHING COURT IN FUND 10.

WE COVERED THAT TOO.

UM, JUDGE LEWIS UH, SENT ME AN EMAIL REQUEST THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE A PART-TIME EXTRA HELP IN THE LAW LIBRARY IN THE SUMMER, UH, CREATING A NEW LINE OF ABOUT $1,400 AND HE WOULD DECREASE THE MISCELLANEOUS BY THE, BY THE 1400.

THAT'S IT.

AND THE LAST ONE, THE $14 WAS OUT A LAW LIBRARY FUND.

YES, SIR.

THAT WAS OUT OF FUND, UH, 25.

AND THAT, THAT'S A FUND THAT IS FUNDED NOT BY DOLLARS.

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NO SIR.

THAT'S FROM FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED FOR THE, THERE WAS TWO MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS THAT YOU HAD YOU INCREASED MONEY.

MISCELLANEOUS IN THERE.

DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY WERE, BUT I I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE INCREASING.

WHAT IS MR. MANIA? WHAT DO WE SPEND THAT ON? POSSIBLY FUTURE? WELL, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A MISCELLANEOUS LINE, IT'S PRODUCE LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE NOT DEFINED THAT YOU NEED DURING THE YEAR.

AND THAT'S HUNDRED SOMETHING FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS.

IT WAS FOR 1500.

AND THAT'S IN JUVENILE.

WE DID, UM, 30% OF PROBATION, NOT YES SIR.

IT'S A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

GUESS DEPENDS ON THE BREAKDOWN OF THE MONEY.

MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE, WE THAT MONEY OFF.

JUST A QUESTION.

UH, THE INCREASE FOR THE SOLID WASTE, THAT'S FOR THE STATION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

UM, IS THAT DUE OR IS THAT DUE TO THE UH, TO THE BURN BAND PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO, UH, IT JUST INCREASED THEIR BUSINESS OUT THERE SO MUCH OR IS IT, UH, I I IT LAST OR THREE MONTHS WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE HOLOCAUST.

OH, IN THE HOLOCAUST? YES.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S FOR.

OKAY.

'CAUSE IT'S IN TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS.

WE HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER MONEY.

SO THAT'S WHY IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S DOUBLE, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT.

IT'S WELL, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO ME DOWN.

I WAS JUST SAYING BY 12 ON CELL PHONES.

IS THAT CORRECT? CELL PHONES? YES.

CELL PHONES AND AIRPORTS.

IT WENT TO 55,000 TO 67,000.

THAT DUDE INCREASED USE.

MY CONCERN THERE IS, IS IF THERE'S SOME, UH, MONEY THAT'S NOT BEING PAID OUT.

THE UH, TECH FUND.

I KNOW I FIRST THIS THING WE PLENTY OF MONEY TO, UH, COVER, BUT I'M PAID, I KNOW THERE'S SO CHARGE THERE EVERY MONTH, BUT I DON'T NOW PART OF THAT BRIDGE THAT YOU'RE 1, 2, 3, 4, YOUR ARE PAID OUTTA YOUR, YOUR ROAD BRIDGE.

NO, WE'RE NOT PAID OUTTA THE GENERAL ALL.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE, WE DIDN'T INCREASE OUR CELL BUDGET THIS YEAR BECAUSE YOU HAD NEXT YEAR YOU WANTED TO REMEMBER A COUPLE MONTHS AGO YOU WANTED ME TO OUTLINE ALL THE GEORGE, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY WE BUDGETED TO PULL? NO, THE, WHEN THE BILL COMES, YOU KNOW, IT COMES TO HIS, THEN WE HAVE TO PULL FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE NON FUND 10 LINE ITEMS TO REIMBURSE THAT FEE.

AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GO BACK THROUGH AND BE SURE WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT.

AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE, WE DISCUSSED USING THE TECHNOLOGY FUND IN THE, IN THE JP CONSTABLE AREA.

WE PULL THE MONEY OUT OF THAT TO REIMBURSE.

SO DOESN'T GET FUND 10.

SO WE JUST, WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT OR DETERMINANTS COMING OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE WE DON'T HAVE.

RIGHT.

UM, AND I THINK JACK, WE'RE STILL RESEARCHING THAT OTHER YEAH, HE'S STILL GETTING COPIES OF THE BILLS AND SOME CHANGES THERE TOO.

ITEM MOTION TO I SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WHO MADE THE CONTRACT? MR. JACKSON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

A WE START PAYING BILLS STAND.

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Y'ALL GO MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY.

IT'S NOT VERY EXCITING.

GO BACK A 10 MINUTE RECESS.

I I THIS IS GOING WORK HERE.

YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE HOG ALL STUFF OVER THERE ON PAPER.

I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES TOLD PROPOSAL.

I KNOW THAT.

I'LL COME BACK AND READ WHAT PART OF THAT IS, WHAT PART OF THAT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, IF I DOWNLOAD ALL THIS STUFF, THAT'S ONE THING.

THEN I HAVE THE OTHER STUFF DONE.

YOU KNOW, GET THOSE IMAGES HERE AND I GOTTA GET ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT I NEED AND ALL THAT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR STUFF COMES FROM EAGLE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S ALREADY A LITTLE BIT THERE GOING BACK AND FORTH.

WE, WE CREATED AND TYLER

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FORMAT HAVE TO BE IN, SUBMIT IT TO TYLER.

WHAT IS IT? SO I KNOW I'M GONNA PAY MORE COSTS.

I'M GONNA DO BECAUSE I'M GONNA END.

NO, THAT WAS DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT.

BUT WHAT WHAT HAPPENED IS, IS, AND I, IF YOU HAVE, THIS IS A SERIES OF EVENTS ASK FOR, I MEAN THAT WOULD BE AWESOME, BUT WE'RE GONNA, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THIS WAS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, TO PUT EVERYTHING IN THERE AT.

DOES IT MEAN I JUST, I THINK, I THINK THIS IS BASED ON SALARY TOO.

SO SOMEONE RIGHT NOW PAYING WOULD TO

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PAY BASED ON THEIR, WE HAD, AND I KNOW IT WORKED FOR SOME REASON THAT YEAH.

AND I THINK THE FINAL COST WAS, UH, 32 2 19.

THE MAJORITY OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE DEDUCTIBLE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS UNDERSTAND.

ARE WE CURIOUS HOW IT'S GONNA LAST? BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IT'S NOT ONLY BUT WE'LL SEE

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15 YEARS AND SO SHE CAN, AND I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU RUN AGAINST THINGS ARE RIGHT, BUT THEY CAN'T, IT WAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ABOUT BACK TOGETHER.

SO LONG I SO THAT DON'T PULL SOMEBODY OVER THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS NOT NECESSARILY RECONCILIATION.

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YES SIR.

PROGRESSIVE WASTE SOLUTIONS.

IS THAT A NEW COMPANY? PROGRESSIVE WASTE SOLUTIONS? 6 48 SHAKING HEAD.

SO NOT OUR CONTRACT,

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YOU GUYS.

YEAH, IT'S, I JUST STACKED IT RIGHT? I DON'T OH, I'M SORRY JOHN.

IF I BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT.

YOU GUYS GUYS STOP RUMOR CUTTING DOWN THE TREES.

JUST COME TO ME AND ASK.

HE'S THE,

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I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT.

IT STARTS WITH INITIAL I KNOW YOU STILL WORKING.

DONE.

IS THAT OUR, IS THAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY? NO, IT COULD BE SOMETHING.

WAS THERE ANY OTHER PAPERWORK TODAY WITH THAT? UM, DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN MONEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'D BE ALL WELL AND GOOD.

THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT.

IF IT COMES OUTTA COUNTY, MONEY'S GOTTA HAVE A PO I'M, STRIKE IT.

I WON'T PAY IT.

IT SHOULD HAVE A PO AND A AND A SIGNATURE ON IT.

I DUNNO IF THAT, YEAH, I DUNNO IF WE RECEIVED THAT SERVICE OR

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NOT.

HOLD THAT ONE OUT.

WE'RE NOT PAYING IT.

HEY, WE CAN THAT GUY.

THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY TO DO.

WE GOT A, THIS ONE YOU RECEIVED FOR SERVICE.

DO I TAKE? YES SIR.

I'LL TAKE THAT BOX AFTER YOUR CAR FOR TAKE THIS DOWN TO YOUR OFFICE.

OH, YOU'LL TAKE IT FOR ME.

OH, OKAY.

HERE TOW.

I'M PULLING THIS ONE UP SO I DON'T LOSE IT.

WHAT YOU WANT MY OFFICE? NO, IT WAS JUST LAYING ON.

OKAY.

THESE ARE YOUR SHOULDN'T IN SUCH A BIG HURRY.

I'M SAYING I KEEP POKING.

COST DID 19 SOMETHING TO FIX IT.

COST ONE GUY.

YOU HAVE TO USE THAT MYS AND NAS.

THAT'S A NEW EXPERIENCE.

THAT ALL GOOD? YES, SIR.

MOTION SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? A MOTION MOVE.

I'LL MOVE IT.

WE ADJOURN SECOND.

AYE FAVOR? AYE.

ADJOURN.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

NO, WE AREN'T EVEN THERE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING.

WE THEY'RE NOT GONNA WHAT? NO, THEY WE'RE GONNA TALK TO THE JUDGE ABOUT OH, OKAY.

BECAUSE WE FOUND WHERE THAT WAS CHARGED TO.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW.