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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO, UH, THIS, THE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 24TH, UH, 2012 REGULAR MEETING OF THE COFFMAN COUNTY, UH, COMMISSIONER COURT.
IF, UH, YOU'VE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, SIGN UP TO ADDRESS THE COURT, YOU'RE DO THAT.
PLEASE APPEAR FOR THAT, SIR, FOR THAT.
UH, NEXT ITEM WE'LL HAVE WILL BE THE, UH, INVOCATION AND THEN DO THAT.
THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, PLEDGES, ALLEGIANCE, BOTH THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG.
SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, FATHER COME.
UH, JUST ANOTHER DAY, FATHER, WE ASKED YOU TO LOOK DOWN AND BLESS THIS COURT.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK DOWN.
BLESS COMMISSIONER HIS WIFE DOWN.
I AS IT STAND IN THE MIDST OF DANGER.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU GONNA DRAW ALL THINGS.
THEN FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU JUST LOOK DOWN UPON THIS COURT AND GENTLE SUCCESS ON THIS COURT, THAT THE DECISION BE MADE AS IN GOOD FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE ALL THIS GIFTS, SON JESUS.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR ON OUR TEXAS ACT, I BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE IN INDIVIDUAL.
NEXT, UH, ADAM WE HAVE IS, UH, REMARKS AND VISITORS, AND I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE IS CAROLYN.
CAROLYN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD HERE AT THE MICROPHONE AND, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT HONOR? HONOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, WELL, MY, UH, MY MESSAGE IS A BRIEF ONE.
UH, I COME ON BEHALF OF THE HERITAGE SOCIETY AND MANY GRATEFUL CITIZENS, I'M SURE TO THANK YOU ALL AND YOU YOURSELF, WOOD FOR, UH, THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE COURTHOUSE LAWS, EVERYBODY'S REMARKING ABOUT IT AND CONGRATULATING, UH, THE COUNTY FOR LOOKING A LOT BETTER.
AND IN FACT, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE RECENTLY TO HELP US ALL IN OUR ENDEAVORS TO HELP COMMUNITY.
MUCH LITTLE GREEN DOES HAVE A LITTLE GREEN.
AND WE DID IT, I BELIEVE, I DUNNO, BRING THIS UP, UP, BUT WE DID IT WITHOUT ELIMINATING ANY TREES, I THINK TOO.
CONGRATULATE, I WAS HESITANT TO BRING THAT UP, THAT THAT MESSAGE WAS DELIVERED, BUT, UH, BUT IT DOES LOOK GOOD.
AND SOME OF THE MASTER GARDENERS, I BELIEVE ARE HERE TODAY.
UH, RALPH, YOU GOT ANY OF YOUR FOLKS, UH, AROUND? NO, I DON'T THINK.
WE HAVE, THAT WAS A COOPERATIVE BETWEEN OF COURSE, THE MASTER GARDEN AND EXTENSION OFFICE.
PAM AND SEVERAL FOLKS DID MAKE IT LOOK BETTER, OR MAYBE RALPH COULD CONVEY OUR GRATITUDE.
YEAH, RALPH, TO THE MA MASTER GUARD.
WE NEED TO GET THE MASTER GUARD UP HERE RECOGNIZING FOR THEIR EFFORTS.
IT'S NICE TO BE, UH, NICE TO BE RECOGNIZED.
UH, NEXT ONE IS, UH, LARRY EWEY, UH, OUR FIRE MARSHAL LARRY, UH, UH, WANTED TO JUST KIND OF GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE, UH, ARE FOR THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF WEEKS SINCE WE MET.
AND, UH, DUE TO THE FIRE DANGER, I'VE HEARD ON THE NEWS THIS MORNING, THESE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS ARE GONNA BE PRETTY, UH, PRETTY HIGH FIRE HAZARD.
SO WE'LL ALL BE ON OUR TO AND YEAH, I JUST WANNA BRING Y'ALL UP TODAY SINCE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN THE LOOP.
WE'RE THIS, WE 60 COURSE THAT CONTINUES TO GO UP EVERY DAY BY TWO OR THREE POINTS.
SO IT'LL INCREASE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, AND THEN WE DISCUSS IT AGAIN.
I DO KNOW THAT THE ENTIRE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY, FROM ONE SIDE UP TO THE OTHER IS JUST BONE DRY.
THERE'S NOWHERE THAT THERE'S ANY MOISTURE CONTENT LEFT.
AND IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE'VE HAD 22 VIOLATIONS.
IF WE RESPONDED TO, WE HAVE FIRE GD ON THE 19TH AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UH, THERE WERE KIND OF A COUPLE OF QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD BE PHASED OUT OF A BURN BAND VIOLATION.
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IT WAS DECIDED, OF COURSE, THAT THEY MUST BE FOR THE LIABILITY ISSUES, NOT KNOWING WHAT THAT INTO.BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT ORDER.
AS SOON AS THEY TONE THEM OUT FOR A BURN VIOLATION THAT THEY'LL CONTACT WHOEVER.
IT'S, IF IT'S A DAY CALL, THEY'LL CALL MYSELF.
IF IT'S A NIGHTTIME CALL, THEY'LL CALL WHOEVER'S ON DUTY IN MY OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN ALSO TRY TO RESPOND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE MOST BURN VAN VIOLATION, IF THEY'RE, OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A FIRE HAZARD, BUT IT'S STILL A VIOLATION.
SO OF COURSE WE NEED TO BE THERE AND QUICKLY WE CAN GET THERE THE BETTER.
SO IT'S BEEN WORKING OUT, IT'S ADDING SOME RESPONSES TO US, BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO WORK THROUGH.
UH, THERE'S BEEN NO MAJOR INCIDENTS OCCURRED DURING THE LAST TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, LIEUTENANT MOORE WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DURING THAT MEETING DID SAY THAT IT SEEMS LIKE MORE PEOPLE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS WHEN THEY CALL OUT THERE INSTEAD, IS THERE A BURN VAN? THEY'RE ASKING, IS THERE A VIOLATION IF YOU GO AHEAD AND DO IT? AND HE BELIEVES THAT'S ACTUALLY CUTTING DOWN ON THE CALLS BECAUSE WE ARE STRICTLY ENFORCING IT.
SO IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE IT'S HELPING US OUT THERE.
THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE I HAD, I WANNA PRINT REAL QUICK, BECAUSE I TALKED TO SOMEBODY IN THE PAST ABOUT, UH, THE FIRE CODE FUNDING.
IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD UTILIZE PART OF THAT TO BRING BACK INTO OUR BUDGET AND THEREFORE REDUCING THE OPERATING BUDGET.
I'VE GOT APPROVAL FROM JOHN AND KAREN AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WE'RE THAT PERTAIN TO THE FIRE CODE THAT COME UP WITH A SYSTEM WHERE WE CAN BRING SOME MONEY BACK IN AND THEREFORE LOWERING THAT OPERATING BUDGET MAYBELL HELP US ALL OUT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, NEXT ITEM, I, NEXT PERSON LLOYD'S HERE TALK ABOUT.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE COULD COMMENT WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT.
WE'LL CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
UH, THE ONE OTHER ITEM I HAD, UH, THAT I GIVEN THE COMMISSIONERS AROUND BUDGET TIME, WE ALL FIND OUT LOTS OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP, UH, I BELIEVE WE WERE TALKING THE OTHER DAY, IS, IS THAT SOME COUNTIES HAVE ACCESS TO A SALES TAX, WHICH WE DO NOT.
AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE PATROLLERS WEBSITE, UH, AND SEE, UH, HOW MANY COUNTIES DO, YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGE OF COUNTIES THAT HAVE A SALES TAX.
AND, UH, THIS HAD TO BE DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I THINK 1988, WHENEVER THAT WAS ESTABLISHED.
OR SOME OF THE CITIES HAD THE EDC AND THE TAX.
AND SO I HAVE ALSO GO TO 23 COUNTIES THAT HAVE THAT.
AND, UH, MOST OF THEM USE IT FOR PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY IS, IS THAT, UH, MOST OF OUR CITIES ARE ALREADY AT 2%.
YOU HAVE A SALES TAX THAT IS HIGHER THAN 2% WAY THE CURRENT STATE LAW READ.
AND, UH, BUT WHEN YOU START COMPARING BUDGETS, APPLES TO APPLES, YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT SOME OF THE COUNTIES THAT, UH, MAY HAVE THAT, UH, REALIZE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR TAX.
AND IN FACT, I'VE KIND OF CALCULATED A LITTLE BIT AND IN MY MIND THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD, WOULD USE OUR SOMEWHERE AROUND FOUR, 5 CENTS IF WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE SALES TAX.
BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT CHANGING THE LAWS.
SO I A COPY THAT, MY COPY, THERE'S SOME, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME BACK ON THE, I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SEE THE COUNTIES THAT ARE NEARBY AND THEY'RE ALL OVER THE STATE.
BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE THE ABILITY, UH, TO DO.
NOW I'D LIKE TO TAKE AN ITEM OUT OF, UH, ORDER AND, UH, WE ENJOYED A VERY NICE, UH, BREAKFAST THIS MORNING, UH, WITH MEMBERS OF, UH, SOME OF OUR FOUR H GROUPS FROM AROUND THE COUNTY.
WE APPRECIATE, UH, DOING THAT.
I FOUND OUT OVER THE YEARS THAT FOOD ALWAYS MAKES MEETING GO BETTER.
SO, UH, UH, CARRIE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, CARRIE SHARP WITH OUR EXTENSION OFFICE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE WITH YOU AND, UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THIS BEING OCTOBER 7TH THROUGH 13TH BEING NATIONAL FOUR CLUB WEEK CALLED COUNTY.
THIS IS ITEM C ON THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
AND I WANTED TO MOVE THIS UP, BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA KEEP ANY OF THESE GUYS FROM MISSING CLASSES AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
I'M NOT SURE THEY WERE TOO HAPPY ABOUT IT.
THEY, THEY WERE TELLING ME THAT IT WAS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY, BUT I WAS VERY, UM, IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IT WAS, WAS NECESSARY BEING THE OLD TEACHER THAT I'M, I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
WELL, IF WE WERE AT THE BOTTOM, I'D HAVE MORE TIME TO STUDY.
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HAS CHANGED.COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU OFFICIAL MY COFFEE COUNTY FORAGE YOUTH COUNCIL.
WE HAVE JACOB LONG, WHO'S OUR PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL, PLUS ALSO VICE PRESIDENT OF THE DISTRICT COUN DISTRICT YOUTH COUNCIL, AND HE IS ON THE STATE COUNCIL ALSO, I HAVE WITH US, UH, CLARK EASTRIDGE.
HE IS IN THE COUNTY ALIGNERS CLUB.
HE IS ONE OF OUR RECREATION DIRECTORS FOR THE, UH, COFFMAN COUNTY FOREST COUNCIL.
HE'S ALSO THE TEAM LEADER FOR THE SCIENCE ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY PROJECTS THAT WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING UP IN CAL COUNTY.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT ENERGY CONSERVATION, HE'S THE GUY TO TALK TO.
UH, THEN WE HAVE HAYDEN, UH, HAYDEN CRAFT IS ONE OF OUR, UH, US, ONE OF OUR RECREATION DIRECTORS.
UH, HE MAY DO A GOOD JOB TEACHING OUR OFFICERS IN THE OTHER CLUBS HOW TO MAKE OUR FOUR H CLUB MEETINGS FUN.
PLUS ALSO HE'S OUR TEAM LEADER FOR THE GARY GO PROJECT, WHICH IS A GROWING PROJECT IN OUR COUNTY FOR A NIGERIAN BOARD COACH, WHICH ARE 40 POUNDS AND UNDER, WHICH ALSO HIS BROTHER WHO ARE EXTREME COMPETITORS IN THE SHOW.
HE IS OUR TREASURER FOR OUR
HE KEEPS US IN LINE AND ON TARGET AND ON TASK AND REMINDS ME CONSTANTLY HOW WE NEED MORE MONEY, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS RIGHT.
HE HAS GOOD IDEAS, HE HAS BARBECUE CONTESTS AND ALL THAT STUFF COMING UP ANYWAYS, THE GENTLEMAN LIKE TO BRINGS IT TO YOU THIS MORNING, THE PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK, WHICH WILL BE IN, UH, OCTOBER 7TH THROUGH THE 13TH.
AND I'LL LET THEM TAKE OVER AND PRESENT THEIR PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS KAUFFMAN COUNTY IS PROUD TO HONOR THE FOUR H YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN OF THE TEXAS A AND M AG LIFE EXTENSION FOR 105 YEARS OF PROVIDING EXPERIENCE BASED EDUCATION TO YOUNGSTERS THROUGHOUT THE LONE STAR STATE.
AND WHEREAS THE ADMIRABLE PROGRAM SEEK TO PROVIDE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE CHILD, INCLUDING HEAD, HEART, OUR HANDS, AND HELPS YOUNG TEXANS TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, DEVELOP LIFE SKILLS, FORM ATTITUDES TO ENABLE THEM TO BECOME SELF DIRECT, PRODUCTIVE AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY.
AND WHEREAS IT'S MORE THAN 660,000 URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL MEMBERS RANGING IN AGE FROM EIGHT TO 19, HAIL FROM DIVERSE ETHNIC AND SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AND TRULY REPRESENT A CROSS SECTION OF THE STATE.
AND WHEREAS THE PROGRAM I I NOT HAVE ACHIEVED THE, THE SUCCESS THAT I HAVE TODAY, SUCCESS WHERE IT'S NOT THE SERVICE OF THE MORE THAN 32,000 YOUTH VOLUNTEER YOU HAVE GIVEN GENTLY OF THEIR TIME, TALENTS, RESOURCE, YOUTH TEXAS.
WHEREAS THROUGHOUT ITS PRIOR HISTORY, THE FOUR H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED POSITIVE ROLE MODELS FOR COUNTLESS TEXANS THROUGHOUT ITS INNOVATIVE AND INSPIRING PROGRAMS CONTINUES TO BUILD CHARACTER AND TO INSTALL THE VALUES THAT HAVE MADE OUR STATE STRONG AND GREAT.
JUST WANT YOU TO THIS YEAR'S MOTTO FOR THE NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK AND ALSO FOR THE YEAR IS IT IS YOUR MOVEMENT.
SO TRYING TO TEACH YOUNG PEOPLE THAT THIS IS THEIR TIME, THEIR STORY, THEREFORE IT IS ALSO THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE A CHANGE IN THE WORLD.
UM, THIS NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE TAKING ANOTHER GROUP OF VERY FINE YOUNG INDIVIDUALS TO THE NATIONAL FOUR H CENTER IN WASHINGTON DC KAILYN GEL WAS ONE OF OUR CANDIDATES TO THE FOUR H CONGRESS THIS LAST YEAR WHERE THEY PASSED AND LEARNED HOW TO TAKE A BILL THROUGH CONGRESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
SHE ACTUALLY HAD A NON-SMOKING BAN FOR ANY, UH, THAT ACTUALLY WENT A LITTLE BIT MORE DEEPER INTO REQUESTS FOR, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC HEALTH.
UH, IT ACTUALLY PASSED GOING THROUGH THE STATE COUN, UH, STATE COUNCIL.
WE THEN PRESENTED ALL THOSE BILLS THAT CAN BE VIEWED ONLINE, UM, THROUGH THE, UH, STATE WAGE WEBSITE.
UH, THEY ACTUALLY WERE THEN PRESENTED TO THE, THE, UH, THE GOVERNOR, UH, ALL THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, I'M VERY PROUD TO REPRESENT.
THEY'RE ACTIVE, THEY'RE GO-GETTERS.
THEY MAKE CHANGE IN THE COMMUNITY.
LAST YEAR WE HAD 291 YOUNG PEOPLE IN FOUR H.
WE HOPE TO GROW THAT THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE A BRAND NEW CLUB IN CREL.
OUR SHOOTING SPORTS PROGRAM IS TAKING OFF AND WE HAVE THE NEW CLUB WITH OUR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, STARTING OFF HERE IN THE NEXT NEAR FUTURE MONTH.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE REACHED OVER TO 10,000 YOUTH IN BLUE COUNTY LAST YEAR WITH OUR CURRICULUM EROSION PROGRAM TEACHING YOUNG PEOPLE ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION AG IN THE CLASSROOM AND SCIENCE IN THE CLASSROOM.
WHAT ELSE KIND GOES UP TO YOU TODAY? DONE.
STARTED EARLY THIS MORNING TOO.
SO APPRECIATE, UH, THE PROCLAMATION VERY MUCH AND THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU FOUR GUYS ARE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY AND DISTRICT LEVEL MECHANIC APPRECI.
ALRIGHT, I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU YOUNG, YOUNG AND TO, UH,
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KEEP CARRYING ON THE HISTORIC AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE OF, AND Y'ALL A GREAT THANK.ALSO, I THINK IT WAS, WELL I KNOW IT WAS 50 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH THAT I JOINED FOUR H FOR THE FIRST TIME.
EVEN LOOK LIKE I'M LOT YOUNGER THAN THAT.
SO IF YOU GUYS KEEP IT UP ONE EIGHT DAYS, MAYBE YOU'LL BE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO BE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
WE HAVE ITEM A, THE ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES, SEPTEMBER 10TH, ALSO THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 17TH.
ITEM B, WE HAVE THE PROCLAMATION THAT WE WOULD NEED TO APPROVE.
AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER ITEM AGENDA IS DISCUSS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION BE PLACED IN POSITION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE? I WE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.
NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND THIS IS FROM, UH, PHILLIP WISH CAMPER.
I HOPE I THAT RIGHT PHILLIP CLOSE UP? THAT'S CORRECT, YOUR HONOR.
UH, PRESENTATION REGARDING THE REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE FOR TACTICAL MURDER CASES.
AND WE DO HAVE, UH, DISTRICT JUDGE MIKE CHI HERE WITH US THIS MORNING AND OUR PUBLIC, UH, DEFENDER, UH, OFFICE FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE, UH, ANDREW, I TO BE HERE AND I SAID SOMETHING TO, UH, THE DA, I DUNNO WHETHER HE'S GONNA MAKE IT OVER OR NOT, BUT, UH, THIS IS A PRESENTATION WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT, UH, SOME MONTHS AGO AT SOME MEETINGS THAT I ATTENDED.
AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO, SEVERAL OF US ATTENDED A MEETING IN, UH, LONGVIEW FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT THIS PART.
AND JUDGE BE HERE AND ANDREW BE HERE, UH, HEAR THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.
WELL, WE'LL LET YOU, UH, GET STARTED.
UH, I, I KNOW, UH, BASED JUDGE ATION THAT YOU GENTLEMEN WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT.
SO LET BACK UP AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF WHY WE EXIST.
UH, OUT IN THE FAR REGIONS OF WEST TEXAS IN THE SEVENTH AND NINTH ADMINISTRATIVE JUDICIAL REGIONS, WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH QUALIFIED LAWYERS TO DO MURDER CASES.
THIS FAIR DEFENSE ACT OF 2001, IT IS REQUIRED THAT LAWYERS WHO HANDLE THESE VERY SPECIAL KINDS OF CASES HAVE CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS TRAINED TO DO IT.
AND WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH OUT THERE TO DO JOB.
SO THE INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION, THE TASK FORCE AT THE TIME, UH, ENCOURAGED THE JUDGES OUT THERE TO CREATE THIS PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE FOR CAPITAL CASES TO HANDLE IN THAT REGION.
THE CAPITAL CASES HAD COME ABOUT, UH, IT WAS CREATED AS A PILOT PROGRAM.
UH, THE FIRST TWO YEARS WAS FULLY FUNDED BY THE TASK FORCE ON
THE COUNTIES NOW FULLY SUPPORT OUR OFFICE IN THOSE REGIONS IN THE SEVENTH AND NINTH ADMINISTRATIVE JUDICIAL REGIONS.
UM, WE HAVE 80 OF THE 85 COUNTIES IN THOSE TWO REGIONS THAT WE REPRESENT.
IF THEY GET A CAPITAL CASE IN THEIR COUNTY, WE DISPATCH, UH, A TEAM TO HANDLE THAT CASE.
BUT WHAT WE HANDLE FOR THOSE COUNTIES AND THE OTHER COUNTIES AROUND THE STATE NOW THAT, THAT JOIN US, UM, IS WE PROVIDE WHAT WE CALL THE CORE DEFENSE TEAM.
UH, THE LAW REQUIRES THAT THERE BE AT LEAST TWO LITIGATION, I'M SORRY, TWO LAWYERS, A MITIGATION SPECIALIST, AND AN INVESTIGATOR ON EVERY CAPITAL MURDER CASE.
UH, WE ALSO PROVIDE ALL OF OUR TRAVEL AND TO LET YOU KNOW JUST HOW MUCH THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO REDUCING THE COST OF THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR BURNING OFFICE, UH, IN THE PHILIPPINES RIGHT NOW INVESTIGATING THE CASE.
AND THAT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.
WE HAVE TO GO THERE AND GO BACK THREE GENERATIONS IN HIS LIFE, UH, TO DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM AND, AND WHY HE'S WHERE HE'S TODAY.
UH, IT'S NOT AN INCONSIDERABLE EXPENSE TO A COUNTY THAT HAS TO FUND THAT OUTTA POCKET, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HANDLE.
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THAT HAS TO BE HANDLED BY OTHER COUNSEL.UH, WE DO NOT HANDLE, UH, EXPERTS.
WE DO NOT, UH, PROVIDE EXPERTS.
IF WE HAVE A CASE HERE, JUDGE CHI'S COURT AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY WANTED EXPERT AND WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED ONE AS WELL, THEN WE WOULD THAT FILE MOTION WITH THE JUDGE AND THE JUDGE WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER WE GET THAT OR NOT.
THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE HIS CALL.
UH, WE DID ALSO DO NOT PROVIDE, OBVIOUSLY, CONFLICT COUNSEL FOR MORE THAN ONE INDIVIDUAL CHARGED WITH CAPITAL MURDER IN A SINGLE OFFENSE.
THEN WE TAKE, UH, WE TAKE ONE OF THOSE, SOMEONE ELSE HAS TO BE APPOINTED TO THE OTHER.
AND WE FOUND THAT ON AVERAGE, ABOUT 20% OF OUR CASES HAVE A CO-DEFENDANT INVOLVED.
NOW, IN CANDID TO THE, TO THE COURT, UH, IN THIS COURT AS WELL, WE DO NOT MIND, UH, IF THE COURT INQUIRES THE PROSECUTOR, WHO THE MOST GUILTY INDIVIDUAL IS, AND WE ASK THAT THAT PERSON BE APPOINTED TO US BECAUSE WE'RE STAFFED, QUALIFIED TO HANDLE THE WORST, THE WORST.
UH, SO WE ASK THAT WE BE APPOINTED ONE WHO'S THE MOST CULPABLE, THE MOST GUILTY OF THE SHOOTER, THE STABER, THE PLANNER, WHOEVER THAT MAY BE.
UH, AS, AS YOU MAY KNOW, TYPICALLY IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED IN A CASE LIKE THIS, DEALS ARE USUALLY CUT WITH LESSER COMFORTABLE INDIVIDUALS TO TESTIFY AGAINST THE MORE COMFORTABLE INDIVIDUAL, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA AGAINST THOSE GUYS ANYWAY.
SO AGAIN, ORDER TO CARRY OUT, WE ASK IF WE BE APPOINTED TO THAT MOST CULPABLE INDIVIDUAL.
UH, WE, UH, WE ARE LIKE A, AN INSURANCE POLICY, UH, REAL RISK OF, UH, SOME PEOPLE REFER TO US AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
YOU NEVER WANT SEE, BUT IF YOU NEED US THERE, UH, WHAT HAPPENS? YOUR BROCHURE SAYS MURDER, MURDER, INSURANCE, INSURANCE.
THAT'S, THAT'S AN ARTICLE OUT, UM, THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY MAGAZINE, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN WE FIRST OPENED.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE MURDER INSURANCE.
THESE CASES CAN BE EXTREMELY EXPLICIT.
WE FIND AN AVERAGE TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 300, 400,000 FOR AN AVERAGE CASE THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH TRIAL.
WE HAVE SEEN CASES RUN JUST SHY.
GRAY COUNTY, UH, ONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN
THE COUNTY JUDGE IN THAT COUNTY TOLD ME THAT THEY KNEW THEY WERE GONNA HAVE THE CASE THAT THEY RAISED TAXES IN THAT COUNTY TWO YEARS BEFORE THE TRIAL DATE IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR THE COSTS OF THAT CAPITAL MURDER CASE.
THEY STILL WERE NOT ABLE TO GIVE, UH, RAISES TO THEIR EMPLOYEES, THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
AND NOT ALL THAT EXPENSE WAS WHAT WE PROVIDED, BUT CERTAINLY 50% OF MORE OF IT, THAT ALMOST $1 MILLION WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD'VE PROVIDED.
ATTORNEY'S FEES, SPECIALIST AND INVESTIGATORS, UH, AND TRAVEL.
UH, SO THEY CAN BE A VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION IF YOU, UH, OUR FORMULA FOR THE PREMIUM, IF YOU'LL IS BASED 50% POPULATION ESTIMATED WE COMPTON COUNTY TO BE, UH, JUST UNDER 98,000 BACK IN 2008.
THE OTHER HALF OF THE FORMULA IS BASED UPON YOUR HISTORY OF CAPITAL MURDER, INDICTMENTS, OR FILING FOR CHARGES WITHIN A PERIOD FROM TWO, I'M SORRY, 1998 UP TO 2008.
NOW, THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION IN AUSTIN IS SHOWING THAT COUNTY WAS REPORTED 19 CASES WITHIN THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD, 1998 TO UP EIGHT, 2008, UH, THEY WERE SHOWING 19 CASES.
UH, AND IN ALL, AGAIN, IN ALL CANDOR, WE HAVE FOUND THAT, UH, SOME COUNTIES HAVE MISREPORTED, UH, SOMETHING HAS OCCURRED IN THE REPORTING THAT'S CAUSED THAT NUMBER TO BE SOMEWHAT INFLATED.
NOW IS THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT IF YOUR NUMBERS ARE CORRECT BECAUSE, UH, UH, ONE, UH, ONE CASE REDUCTION PROBABLY WOULDN'T AFFECT YOUR NUMBERS ALL THAT MUCH.
UH, BUT FOUR OR FIVE COULD, UH, WE HAVE FOUND A NUMBER.
YOU DON'T HAVE A PRISON IN NO COUNTY.
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WE DON'T COUNT PRISON MURDERS BECAUSE THEY'RE FUNDED BY SOMEONE ELSE.UH, BUT ATTEMPTED MURDER CAPITAL MURDERS GET COUNTED THERE OCCASIONALLY.
UH, SOMETIMES THERE SOMEONE THAT'S INDICTED, IT'S DISMISSED AND RE INDICTED TWICE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS FOR THOSE MEMBERS BEING INFLATED.
UH, WE FIND THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF COUNTIES ARE CORRECT, BUT OCCASIONALLY WE DO FIND AN ANOMALY AND, UH, NOW'S THE TIME TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE'LL GET WITH OUR DISTRICT CLERK.
JUDGE, I DUNNO, YOU MAY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT OR NOT.
WE CAN CIRCLE BACK RESEARCH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF CASES THAT ARE INDICTED AS CAPITAL CASES AND, UH, WE'VE HAD ONE ACTUAL DEATH PENALTY CASE I THINK IN THE LAST DECADE, ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF MANY CAPS, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S INDICTED AS A CAPITAL CASE, YOU CONSIDER IT A CAPITAL CASE.
WE CONSIDER IT A CAPITAL CASE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COME IN AND STAFF THAT CASE.
UH, AS, AS THE JUDGE WILL TELL YOU, UNDER 26 0 5 2 CODE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, UH, A CAPITAL CASE IS CONSIDERED TO BE A DEATH PENALTY CASE UNTIL THE DA WAGE DEATH.
AND SO WE COME IN AND WE STAFF THE CASE AND WE WORK IT UP.
UH, AND OBVIOUSLY WE, WE TRY TO WORK IT OUT.
NOW OUR, OUR RESOURCES ARE FINITE.
SO IF THE DA, FOR EXAMPLE, GETS 30 DAYS INTO THE CASE JUST, WELL, I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA SEEK DEATH IN THIS CASE, THEN WE WILL PROBABLY COME TO THE JUDGE AND SAY, JUDGE, CAN WE BE RELEASED IN THIS CASE SINCE THIS IS NOT A DEATH CASE? UH, AND YOU GO AHEAD, AHEAD, CASE.
NOW THERE CIRCUMSTANCES, I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, ONE IN WEST TEXAS, THE CASE FOR WELL OVER A YEAR, LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF, THE DA CALLS US UP ONE DAY AND SAYS, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEEK DEATH IN THIS CASE ANYMORE.
WE'RE MOVE ABOUT A MONTH OUT FOR TRIAL.
WE'RE WAITING TO DEATH, WE'RE GOING GO AHEAD AND TRY THAT CASE.
IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THE COUNTY.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE CLIENT, EXCUSE ME, US BEING ON THE CASE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF FOR US TO ASK TO BACK OUT.
UH, SO IT DEPENDS UPON THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT WE, UH, DESIRE JUST GET ON THE CASE AND GET VOTED OUT.
UH, HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE FINITE RESOURCES AND IF, UH, WE'RE ONLY JUST A FEW DAYS OR WEEKS IN THE CASE, THE DA SAYS, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA SEEK DEATH.
WE'LL BE COMING TO THE COURT SAYING, JUDGE, CAN WE GET OFF AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT DEATH PENALTY? UH, WE, UH, I BELIEVE I GAVE YOU A SAMPLE AGREEMENT, HAVE THAT, UH, AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY JIM ALLISON OF THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.
THAT'S THE ONE WE'VE USED AT THE STATE.
AND, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN THE COURT MAY HAVE FOR, UH, UH, GENTLEMEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I, UH, ANDREW, WOULD YOU OR JUDGE C DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, THE NEED FOR SUCH A PROGRAM HERE IN OUR COUNTY? I THINK AS LONG AS THE DA, UH, WANTS TO KEEP DEATH ON THE TABLE AS AN OPTION IN A CASE, THEN THERE'S A NEED FOR THESE SERVICES.
UM, THE COST FOR LITIGATING ONE OF THESE, UH, IS ESTIMATED SOMEWHERE AROUND $750,000.
IT'S A KILLER FOR OUR COUNTY, OUR SIZE, UH, ON A DEATH CASE, BUDGET-WISE, UH, A LOT OF THE EXPENSE I IS IN THE APPELLATE PROCESS THOUGH, AFTER THE TRIAL.
AND PHILLIP, IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT, I'LL, UH, YOU ESTIMATE ABOUT THREE TO 400,000 AT THE TRIAL LEVEL.
HOW MUCH IN ADDITION FOR THE APPEAL? UH, UH, DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH OF TRIAL, A A RECORD CAN RUN 40 50.
I'VE SEEN RECORDS RUN $70,000 FOR A LENGTHY TRIAL AT FOUR A PAGE.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU, YOU'RE PROBABLY PAYING 50 AN HOUR AT LEAST, UH, FOR COUNSEL.
AND, UH, YOU REVIEW THAT MANY PAGES, UH, IT CAN RUN THAT MUCH.
WELL, YOU, YOU CAN ESTIMATE $150,000 FOR SOME APPEALS.
NOW, BEYOND THAT APPEAL, THE OFFICE OF CAPITAL WR IN AUSTIN NOW TAKES THAT RESPONSIBILITY AWAY FROM THE COUNTY, GET BEYOND DIRECT APPEAL, THE WR PROCESS NOW TAKEN CARE OF BY THE STATE.
SO IT WOULD BE, WOULD NOT FALL BACK ON, IT WOULD NOT FALL BACK ON, BUT THE APPEAL WILL.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, I, WHILE I'M TALKING ABOUT APPEAL, OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2007.
UH, WE JUST GOT OUR 60TH CASE IN THIS LAST WEEK.
WE PICKED UP TWO THIS LAST WEEK.
WE'VE BEEN TO TRIAL ONE TIME, ONE TIME.
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AND UH, I'M NOT GONNA TELL THIS COURT THAT WE'RE GONNA SAVE YOU MONEY, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO PREDICT WHAT THESE KINDS OF CASES ARE GOING TO COST FOR ATTORNEYS, UH, AND, AND OUR, UH, INVESTIGATION LITIGATION.BUT IF, IF THE JUDGE GIVES US MONEY FOR EXPERTS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO TRIAL, THEN WE'RE NOT SPENDING THAT MONEY.
UH, I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A CASE IN THE NORTH TEXAS COUNTY.
I THINK WE HAD $60,000 IN OUR TRUST ACCOUNT FOR EXPERTS.
WE PUT IN 5,761 HOURS OF WORK IN THAT CASE, AND WE SETTLED THE CASE.
WE DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO TRIAL.
UH, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, UH, THAT WE SAVED THAT PART COUNTY, BUT WE ALSO GAVE THAT $60,000 BACK TO THE COUNTY WE TO USE BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO, WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CASES WE ARE GOING HAVE TO, THEY'RE JUST GOING BE 78 TO NOT BACK AWAY FROM.
BUT FOR THOSE THAT WE CAN SETTLE, UM, WE DO OUR BEST TO SETTLE.
AND, UH, AS A RESULT, THE COUNTY WILL REALIZE A SAVINGS IN THAT RESPECT IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR APPEAL.
PHILLIP, LEMME BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE COST OF APPEAL.
DO YOU THINK COST OF APPEAL WOULD BE 200,000? NO.
UH, OF COURSE IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON THE COST OF THE RECORD AND, AND THE FILE.
I'M SORRY, THE APPELLATE LAWYER, UH, OF COURSE HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY EXPERTS OR INVESTIGATION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT UNLESS HE, UH, DID SOMETHING ON THE MOTION FOR NEW TRIAL.
SO, UH, BUT YOU'VE ONLY GOT 30 DAYS TO FILE THAT, SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE MUCH EXPENSE TO THAT, EVEN IF THERE IS, I I, I CAN'T PUT A, AS CLOSE A NUMBER ON IT AS I CAN FROM THE TRIAL COST, BUT A HUNDRED, 150,000 BUCKS I THINK WOULD BE A COST FOR IT DEAL.
OKAY, SO TRIAL COST ABOUT THREE TO 400.
COST OF APPEAL, 150, UH, AT THE OUTSIDE.
UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.
THEY'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS OUT IN WEST TEXAS USING THIS PROGRAM AND I'VE HEARD NO COMPLAINTS FROM ANYONE ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
UH, WE'VE GOT VERY GOOD LAWYERS, THEY'VE GOT GOOD STAFF AND, UH, IF KAUFFMAN COUNTY CONTINUES TO KEEP THE DEATH PENALTY ON THE TABLE AS AN OPTION, THEN I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM TO BE A PART OF.
AND IN THE CONVERSATION, YOU AND I THE OTHER DAY, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HIS INTENT, THAT IS WHAT HE INDICATED.
AND, UH, I'LL LET ANDREW SPEAK FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S VIEWPOINT.
I, WE CERTAINLY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT, JUST TO GIVE THE COURT, UH, MAYBE SOME PERSPECTIVE.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT AND, AND ALL THESE ARE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT IF YOU DO SEEK THE DEATH PENALTY IN A CASE AND WE, WE HAD ONE COME UP, UH, IT'S PRETTY SAFE TO SAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 500 TO $750,000 INVESTMENT AND JUST COMPARE THAT, UH, MY OFFICE, THE, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE PLUS WHAT WE SPEND ON OUTSIDE ENERGY DEFENSE, MY RECOLLECTION IS, IS ABOUT EIGHT OR $900,000.
SO YOU, YOU COULD HAVE ONE CASE THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR ALMOST THREE QUARTERS OF WHAT WE BUDGET TO SPEND FOR EVERY CASE ALL YEAR, IF THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE, THE RISK POOL THAT YOU'RE COVERING.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION.
CONSIDER, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS INSURANCE.
SO I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE PREMIUM IS, COMPARE THAT AGAINST THE POSSIBLE RISK OR POSSIBLE LOSS, AND THEY DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S FAIR IN A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AS FAR AS THE QUALITY OF SERVICE.
UH, JACK STRA THE, UH, GUY WHO HEADS UP THE PROGRAM AND OVERSEES THAT, UH, HE AND I SERVE ON THE STANDING STATE BAR COMMITTEE TOGETHER.
I KNEW JACK BY REPUTATION WHEN I WAS OUT IN WEST TEXAS.
UH, THE, THE QUALITY OF SERVICE IS EXCELLENT, YOU KNOW, AT THE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED WITH COSTS.
IT'S ALSO A REAL HUMAN BEING ON TRIAL, REAL VICTIMS. I MEAN, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO, TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK, DO A GOOD JOB.
THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN TRYING TO DEATH PENALTY CASE IS HAVING TO TRY IT TWICE.
SO THOSE GUYS WILL MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T COME BACK ON APPEAL AND WE GET HOOKED FOR THE SAME EXPENSES AGAIN.
THOSE 39 CASES WEED THAT WE HAVE TO TRY, TRY AGAIN.
YOU MIGHT TALK TO US JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COST TO COUNTY PARTICIPATE IN THE COST OF THE COUNTY FOR THE FIRST YEAR IS ZERO.
WE ARE FULLY FUNDED BY THE INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION, UH, FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
UH, I BELIEVE I SENT THE THE NUMBERS TO YOU, BUT, UH, THE FIRST YEAR THAT YOU WERE PAID MAY BE 20 12, 20 13, THIRD, 2008 77 FOR THE FIRST YEAR, UH, 43,836 FOR 20 13, 14 60 5,754 FOR 1415 87,000 6, 7 2 FOR 1516,
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YOUR FINAL NUMBER, UH, ASSUMING THAT YOUR 19 CASES ARE CORRECT.YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL IS A HUNDRED NINE FIVE NINE ONE.
UH, AND I OFTEN GET THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU REALLY LIKE AN INSURANCE COMPANY? IF WE HAVE A BUNCH OF CASES, YOU GONNA GO UP ON THAT.
AND THE ANSWER THAT I CAN GIVE YOU TODAY IS PROBABLY NOT, WE HAVEN'T, UH, 85 OR 80 COUNTIES WE REPRESENT OUTTA WEST TEXAS HAD THAT SAME NUMBER, UH, OR THE SAME NUMBERS, UH, FROM THE BEGINNING.
AND, UH, THOSE SUCH AS RANDALL COUNTY PUBLIC COUNTY THAT WE REGULARLY HAVE CASES WE HAVEN'T GONE UP ON ON THEM.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT NEEDING GO UP.
IN FACT, UH, THIS LAST YEAR, UH, WE GAVE MONEY BACK TO THE COUNTIES IN, IN THE SEVENTH AND
UH, WE ESTIMATE THAT WE NEED ABOUT A $500,000 SURPLUS, UH, DEAL TO HANDLE EXTRAORDINARY EXPENSES FOR OUR OFFICE OUT THERE, OFFICES THERE.
UM, I, THAT FUND PROVED LITTLE OVER 900,000.
WE GAVE IT BACK, WE GAVE BACK OVER $400,000 COUNTIES ON BASIS.
UH, SO THE COUNTIES OUT IN THAT REGION GOT ABOUT 40% OF THEIR ANNUAL PREMIUM BACK FOR THIS YEAR.
UH, IT'S NOT OFTEN YOU SAY THAT THE STATE OR COUNTY PROGRAM DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
FLORIDA COUNTY, UH, WE, WE DUNNO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OUT HERE, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT NUMBER TO INCREASE.
IN FACT, REGIONS POSSIBILITY QUESTION DISCUSSED THIS WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AFTER WEST TEXAS HAS BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM FOR THEM AND THEY'RE SPARSELY POPULATED AND I ALWAYS WONDER WHY IT WOULD WORK THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
SO I'M EXTREMELY GLAD Y'ALL ARE EXPANDING THE PROGRAM OUT, UH, TO US IN EAST TEXAS.
THIS IS THE FINAL POINT OF EXPANSION.
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE DON'T TRY SOME THOSE TO THE FULL GENERAL LAW TO WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.
ANYBODY ELSE COMMENT? I, UH, I DIDN'T NOTICE, UH, AN ARTICLE IN THE GREENVILLE NEWSPAPER THE OTHER DAY WHERE THEY HAVE, UH, UH, ALSO AGREED TO GO ALONG WITH, BUT I ALSO CALLED THERE BASICALLY 1.2 MILLION THIS YEAR IN HUNT COUNTY TO PROSECUTE CAPITAL COURT CASES.
YEAH, AND THAT'S, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S, IT WOULDN'T BE GOOD TO CALL COUNTY, RIGHT? ONE JUDGE IN HUNT COUNTY PUT ALSO ANTICIPATE ROCKWALL COUNTY VOTE TO JOIN TOMORROW.
THE RESPONSE HERE IN THESE HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.
ALRIGHT, I OBJECT OUR COUNSEL MR. WILL BE A COPY OF, OF THAT.
JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO BRING UP? UM, I, I STEPPED AWAY BRIEFLY, BUT WHAT IS THE COST? I SEE THAT THERE'S A FORMULA.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S BASED ON THE POPULATION.
UH, THE COST FOR THE FIRST YEAR IS ZERO.
AND IT GOES UP INCREMENTALLY, UH, TO 30% PAID BY THE COUNTY TO 40 TO 60 TO 80.
AND THEN IN 20 16, 20 17, UH, THE SIXTH YEAR PROGRAM, UH, THE COUNTY'S FUNDING HUNDRED PERCENT BE FIVE NINE.
AND IF WE COME BACK, THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE HERE, NUMBER 19, 10 YEAR PERIOD, YES.
WE'LL NEED TO, UH, COMMUNICATE THAT TO YOU.
IF, UH, YOU'LL GET YOUR DISTRICT CLERK TO, UH, WRITE A LETTER CERTIFYING WITH, UH, HER NUMBERS IF THEY'RE DIFFERENT FROM OURS, UH, AND UH, PROVIDING US, UH, DOCUMENTATION THAT EFFECT, WE'LL THIS IS A SPREADSHEET, JUST CHANGE
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU HAVE OUR POPULATION ESTIMATED THAT 97,000 WE'RE AT 105,000 NOW.
UM, WOULD THAT FIGURE, WHEN YOU RECAP, WOULD THAT GO UP TO 105,000? NO, UH, COMMISSIONER, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT, THAT 97 CHANGE.
AND THESE, UH, UH, IN OTHER WORDS, Y'ALL COME IN, IF SOMEBODY, CAPITAL MURDERS COMMITTED COUNTY AND OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN OR GRAND JURY AND THAT PERSON, UH, AND SAYS IT'S GONNA BE A CAPITAL CASE, IS THAT'S WHEN Y'ALL COME IN.
WE, UH, WE LIKE TO GET IN AS QUICKLY AS
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WE CAN AS EARLY AS WE CAN.UH, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.
I BELIEVE EVERY CASE WE'VE BEEN APPOINTED ON RESPONSE AND, UH, LESS 24 HOURS, SEVEN O'CLOCK.
AND THIS PREMIUM, UH, SCHEDULE, IS THAT, UH, IS THAT PAYABLE IN THE, UH, HAVE YOU SAY INSTALLMENTS SO TO SPEAK, TWO INSTALLMENTS OR FOUR INSTALLMENTS? IS THAT ONE TIME TYPICALLY WE GET THAT IN ONE IN ONE TIME CHECK.
GENERALLY IT'S IN, UH, IT'S THE BEGINNING OF EACH FISCAL YEAR.
OUR FISCAL YEAR MATCHES MOST COUNTIES, UH, STARTS OCTOBER ONE IS WHEN OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTS AND IF, UH, IF THE COUNTY SIZE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM AND, UH, 4, 5, 6 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WHICH DECIDED TO OPT OUT, THEN WHAT? THERE IS DIVISION IN THE YOUR LOCAL AGREEMENT WHERE WITH, UH, SIX MONTHS NOTICE TO US BY COUNTY OF THE COUNTY, COUNTY OPT OUT SIX MONTHS WRITTEN NOTES, THE ORIGINAL GRIEVANCE YEAR BY YEAR, UH, IT'S YEAR BY YEAR.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I BELIEVE IN THE INTERRUPTED AGREEMENT, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GOOD FAITH CLAUSE IN THAT SAYS YOU'RE JOINING, UH, REPRESENTING GOOD FAITH THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A SIX MONTH OUT CLAUSE IF THE COUNTY WISHES TO WITHDRAW.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GIVE US WRITTEN NOTICE WITHIN SIX MONTHS AND YOU CAN GET OUTTA TROUBLE.
BUT, UH, WHAT WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE WAS COUNTY UP FOR THE FIRST YEAR IN THESE 19 ENDOWMENTS THAT YOU, UH, SAY HAVE WENT FROM 98 TO OH EIGHT.
IF THAT FIGURE SHOULD BE 14 OR LESS, THEN OUR PREMIUM IS GONNA REDUCED THEN SUBSTANTIALLY.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT, IT PROBABLY WILL.
I UH, SAY IT'S, UH, THE FORMULAS ENTERED INTO THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET.
IT, IT CALCULATES IT AUTOMATICALLY.
IF WE CHANGE THAT, UH, 1.9 TO 1.0, IT AUTOMATICALLY CALCULATES.
UH, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF, I WAS IN STEVENS COUNTY LAST WEEK.
THEY WERE SHOWING TWO AT THE BEGINNING.
THEIR FINAL PREMIUM WAS 11,000 2 48.
WE ULTIMATELY DETERMINED THAT THEIRS A ZERO BECAUSE ONE WAS A CHANGE COUNTED AGAINST FELONY DWI WAS PUT IN THE WRONG PLACE.
THEIR NUMBER WENT FROM 11,000 2 48 TO 51 15.
SO IT CUT ALMOST, ALMOST HALF.
SO THAT, THAT NUMBER CAN SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT THE NUMBERS.
FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, NO SIR.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
THANK YOU FOR COMING TO COUNTY PRESENTATION.
NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS NUMBER FOUR.
THAT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER BECOMING A MEMBER OF THE RE GRIEVANCE AND I'LL GO BACK TO WORK WITH, GO BACK AND REVIEW THESE CASES TO MAKE SURE THE OTHER THING DOESN'T AFFECT OUR CURRENT NEW BUDGET WHEN WE START, BECAUSE YEAR.
THAT OUR ATTORNEY OFFICE TO FINALIZE IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
SECOND, UH, MR. JACKSON SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S SUBJECT TO THOSE NUMBERS.
YEAH, WE WILL, WE'LL WORK ON THAT.
AND JOHN WILL, UH, HE HAS QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT GIVE HIM YOUR ATE THAT WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH.
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YEAH, MURDER INSURANCE.YOU KNOW THE, ALRIGHTY, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO, UH, HEAR FROM OUR TAX COLLECTOR MR. MURPHY REPORT FOR AUGUST, 2012.
GOOD MORNING AGAIN WITH ONE MORE MONTH AGO.
WE HAD ALREADY COLLECTED IN THE GENERAL FUND 28.3 MILLION AND THEN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE 3.27 MILLION, EACH OF WHICH IS 97% BASED ON COLLECTIONS SO FAR THROUGH THIS MONTH.
I PROMISE YOU WE'LL GET 98 BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS MY GOAL ALL TIME RECORD AND FORWARD TO ANY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, ME? I'LL LET HIM.
A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TAX COURT OR MOTION.
A SECOND COMMISSIONER MEAN, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT ITEM NUMBER SIX AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE ADVERTISING AND REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR TRANSPORTATION.
MR. CLARK, LEAD MAN ON THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY AND PLANNING PROGRAM.
QUESTION THAT WE CLOSING THOSE BID ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER THE 18TH, CLOSE AT TWO AT TWO 30.
THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
COUNTYWIDE OUTSIDE REQUEST MAKE THE SUGGESTION ACTUALLY FOR HE AND I AND THE JUDGE TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE, UH, I SEE IN VERY IQ FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR COUNTY ENGINEER FOR COUNTY ENGINEER, I OPPOSED TO MR. TRANSPORTATION NEEDS STUDY.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THIS, THE COUNTY ENGINEER.
WILL IT, WILL HE BE, UH, WILL WE REQUIRE HIM TO BE QUALIFIED TO, TO OVERSEE SOME OF THESE, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS OR SUBDIVISIONS, UH, IN ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY ENTERS INTO, SUCH AS, UH, RENOVATIONS ON THE ARMY OR IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE REQUIRE TO BE QUALIFIED TO DO ALL THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF, PART OF THE NEXT THAT MY IS IT BE ON CALL, UH, TO BE CALLED IN AS NEEDED DIVISION? RIGHT? WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A FIRM, EVERYBODY KIND OF USES DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THERE.
I THINK TALKING THE SAME THING.
THIS DIFFERENT THAT THIS IS COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION,
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YOU KNOW, WORKING IN THE STATE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH COUNTY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RELATED OF COURSE, BUT I MEAN THEY'D BE KIND OF KIND DIFFERENT THAT WE DON'T NEED JUST ONE INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO OR IS IT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT? WELL ACTUALLY, UH, SOME OF THESE CONSULTANTS SPECIALIZE AND THIS IS MORE SPECIALIZED FIELD WHERE THE ANOTHER AGENDA WILL COME UP IN THE FUTURE IS THERE'S, THERE'S SPECIALISTS, ALL RIGHT, BUT THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE CAN MEET THAT SCOPE OF ORDER.BUT I THINK REFERRING WOULD KIND A GENERAL ENGINEER THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE ROAD SERVICES SUBDIVISION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THAT THAT'S THE ANOTHER GENERAL, THIS JUST, SO I THINK YOU PROBABLY END UP ACTUALLY BECAUSE THIS IS MORE SPECIALIZED AND I THINK WE'LL BE COMING BACK, UH, IN A MONTH OR TWO.
TO IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAM WOULD BE, UH, MAYBE A YEAR OUT.
WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.
CONSULT FIGURE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.
FIRST CONTRACT PAYING HIM THIS, THIS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AS YOU NEED, YOU CALL AND YOU PAY HIM AS YOU NEED INSTEAD OF HAVING SOME TYPE CONTRACT.
THIS PERSON'S ASKING, BUT FAR AS WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR NEEDS, THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE AGENDA THAT COME UP THAT YOU TWO MAKE CERTAIN PICK EXACTLY.
HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WILL THAT WHICH WILL ENCOMPASS ALL WHAT YOU'RE TALKING WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND CONTRACT, WHERE TO PAY HIM.
YES, THAT'S, THAT WAS THE PART I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE ONES I WAS ASKING FOR, IF HE NEEDED, HE COULD CALL HIM AND PAID FOR IT UP.
IT'S THE SAME FOR ME OR THE DEVELOPER.
SIT, SIT SCOPE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED ON CALL PARTICULAR JUST FOR GO OUT, GO TO ALL THE COUNTY WITH THE STATE, DETERMINE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND AS PRIORITY COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT WE PROCEED WITH.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY'S KIND OF DOING THEIR OWN THING AND THIS WOULD BE AN EFFORT FOR US TO TRY TO BRING ALL THE CITIES TOGETHER AND TO COME UP WITH A COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM AND IT HELP US, WE THINK GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WE PROBABLY HAVE TO, UH, AT SOME POINT IN TIME DOWN THE WAY WE GET, UH, MUCH FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH UH, SOME SORT OF A PLAN FOR THEM TO PRESENT TO VOTERS.
AND IT WOULD BE MY BELIEF, NOT ONLY WOULD IT INCLUDE STATE HIGHWAYS, BUT IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE MONIES FOR UH, SOME OF THE COUNTY ROADS AS WELL.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN OTHER COUNTIES.
I BELIEVE BASED ON WHAT THE MEETINGS I'VE ATTENDED TO TALK WITH, IT WOULD BE AN EFFORT TO GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD AND START OFF SMALL.
UH, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF YOU GET ANY STATE HIGHWAY, IT'S PARTNERSHIP.
WE'VE BEEN LUCKY TO THE AMOUNT OF WORK DONE THAT WE'RE GETTING DONE IN OUR COUNTY, ALL THE PROJECTS ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
NOW STATE MONEY, YOU'VE GOTTA GOTTA JOIN IN WITH THEM TO GET HOPE DONE.
EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, THEY'VE GOT THEIR PROJECTS GO KAUFMAN, THEY'VE GOT THEIR PROJECT HERE, THAT'S PRIORITY
I MEAN EVERYBODY THINKS THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED AND THEY PROBABLY DO, BUT THIS WOULD BE THERE.
SO PRIORITIES BE SIT AROUND THE TABLE.
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TRY TO ARRANGE SOME, UH, SOME ORDER TO THAT PROCESS.A SECOND FOR PERMISSION WITH ME.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AWARDING BID NUMBER 12 DASH SIX RADIO EQUIPMENT AND INSTALLATION COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
OKAY, I, UH, ONCE WE FOUND OUT THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT HAD A NEED FOR, UM, MR. FAST TRACK TO GET THIS THING DONE, UH, BUDGET, WE HAD A PREBI ON THIS.
WE REFERENCED MOTOROLA AS THE, UH, EQUIPMENT AND DURING THE PRE IT WAS MENTIONED THAT, UH, BOTH VENDORS, WE HAD TWO VENDORS THAT CAME, UH, UP COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS AND THEY INDICATED THEY MADE ALSO BID A AUCTION ITEM.
UH, PW CHOSE NOT TO SUBMIT AN ITEM, BUT UH, HUFFMAN DID.
UM, THE SHERIFF HAS INDICATED THAT HE WAS MORE THAN WELCOME, WANTS TO LOOK AT SAVING MONEY.
YOU, YOU'LL NOTICE THE, UH, DW IS LOW BID BIDDING PRODUCT.
UH, THE TOTAL OF 77,050 HUFFMAN CAME TO 80 3030 BIDDING A ALTERNATE PRODUCT AT, UH, 48,000 6 29.
THAT IS THE KENWOOD PRODUCT WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY USING KENWOOD RADIO, UH, PRODUCT.
I SHERIFF MORE TIME TO, UH, STUDY THIS ALTERNATE BID.
ONCE AGAIN, WE TRY TO GET THIS THING DONE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
WE PUT ON THE FIRST POSSIBLE AND THE QUICKEST CLOSING TIME POSSIBLE, UH, EVALUATE.
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF VENDORS HERE THINK IS HERE TODAY.
YOU MAY WANNA SPEAK ON THE PRODUCT, UH, MAYBE WANNA RECOMMEND A, UH, TABLE LIST, BUT TO GET A BETTER LOOK AT THIS, OBVIOUSLY WE LIKE TO SAVE THE WE CAN I THERE CONCERN ON THE PRODUCT, PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, THAT BE THE LATEST PRODUCT OUT THERE.
I THINK WE MAY NEED TO DO SOME MORE STUDY ON THIS.
I I HAVE TWO CONCERNS, CERTAINLY KIM, ALL OF OUR MOLD RODEO PRODUCT, THE PROBLEM I HAVE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS I BELIEVE THE PRODUCT'S BEEN ON THE MARKET SINCE 2000.
RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR FARM CONSOLE BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER SUPPORTING THAT PRODUCT.
SO I HAVE A LITTLE QUESTION THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT TO MAKE THIS PRODUCT WORK WAY WE WANTED TO, IF THERE HAS TO BE A SECOND VENDOR, RAYTHEON THAT HAS AN ADD ON OR WHATEVER, IT'S, AND THE PROBLEM I HAD WITH THAT IS WE HAD TO PUT OUR DIGITAL CAMERAS WHERE, UH, WE HAD ONE VENDOR THAT SUPPLIED THE CAMERA, ONE THAT DID THE SOFTWARE AND WE GET INTO ONE.
IT'S NOT THE HARDWARE, THE SOFTWARE BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.
AND THOSE, THOSE, MY TWO CONCERNS AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, KENWOOD, UH, EVERYTHING, WE'VE GOT KENWOOD OUT THERE, BUT I DON'T WANT SUPPORT THIS.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT MINE.
UH, THAT'S A COUPLE CONCERNS AND MAYBE THE VENDOR CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
THEY ON THIS ONE SIGNED UP, UH, WITH THE COURTS AND NUMBER IN THE SYSTEM.
MY RECOMMENDATION MAY WE HAVE, UH, MR. HUFFMAN, UH, HAD SIGNED UP EARLIER IN, IN UH, FAIRNESS, WE'D ALSO LET THE OTHER VENDOR I THINK SPEAK AS WELL.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT, THIS IS IMPORTANT DECISION FOR AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S QUITE DIFFERENCE IN THE, IN THE AS COMPARED TO WE DON'T WANNA MAKE MISTAKE.
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COMES IN 37% UNDER COMPETITION.WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, AGE OF THIS.
THERE'S KENWOOD SUPPLIES TWO DIFFERENT RADIOS FOR P 25.
THEY SUPP SUPPLY THE T KR 7,400, WHICH IS THE ONE I IDEA, WHICH IS THE LOWER COST PRODUCT.
THEY ALSO SUPPLY A NEXT EDGE EXCITER, WHICH IS A, YOU KNOW, A RADIO THAT WAS BUILT, START INTRODUCED IN 2008.
UH, KENWOOD CAN SUPPLY EITHER ONE.
THE DIFFERENTIAL IS $1,200, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 4,800 IF THAT'S A CONCERN TO YOU, EITHER.
RADIO CARRIES A TWO YEAR PARTS OF LABOR WARRANTY.
UM, THE RAYTHEON, UH, P 25 CONTROLLER IS SUPPLIED BY KENWOOD WIRED AND TESTED BY KENWOOD IN THEIR FACTORY AND DELIVERED.
WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN OF THESE SYSTEMS OUT.
WE HAVE ONE IN FREESTONE COUNTY, ONE IN HILL, AND FIVE IN FALLS COUNTY SOUTH OF HERE.
YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH ANY, BUT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.
UH, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
THE KENWOOD RADIOS ARE VERY SIMPLE.
THEY'RE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND THEY DON'T GET MUCH TROUBLE.
THEY'RE EASY TO FIX AND THEY DO ALL THE P 25 THINGS, UH, ENCRYPTED, NON-ENCRYPTED AND ANALOG AUTOMATIC SWITCHING.
BUT IN THE FUTURE, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE COUNTY SOUTH HERE, AND ACTUALLY ELLIS COUNTY ALSO, I THINK THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING WITH IT.
WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING IS THEY'RE RUNNING THESE SYSTEMS IN ANALOG.
INSTEAD OF P 25, I HAVE ONE P 25 SYSTEM IN THE VERA COUNTY THAT'S ACTUALLY UP AS A P 25 REPEAT.
AND ALL THE REST OF THESE SYSTEMS ARE BEING RUN IN THE ANALOG MODE.
YOU SAY, WELL WHY ARE THEY BUYING P 25? THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT PEOPLE TO GET HOME SECURITY FUND, IT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE, APPARENTLY.
AND, AND YOU SAY, WELL, WHY ARE THEY RUNNING THE ANALOG? WELL, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT IS THE, THE PUSH SINCE ABOUT 2001 STARTING IN THE HEART OF TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, IT'S BEEN RECEIVED VOTING SYSTEMS. AND WHAT THAT IS, IS YOU THE DEPUTY OR VOLUNTEER FIRE THERE IN THE, AND THEY'RE, THEY USUALLY GOT A PORTABLE AND THEY NEED TO TALK BACK TO THE DISPATCHER.
AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTTA RANGE ONE WAY OR OTHER.
OR THEY'RE IN A TOWN LIKE NEY OR THEY'RE IN A TOWN LIKE LL AND THEY'RE INSIDE OF A BUILDING OR WHATEVER.
IT'S, SO STARTING ABOUT 2001, UH, ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH 2005 AND WE'RE STILL EXPANDING THESE SYSTEMS AND ALL THE HOT CAR COUNTS WE'RE PUTTING IN RECEIVER VOTING SITES AND ALL THESE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND WHAT A RECEIVER VOTING SITE IS, IT'S A RECEIVER OUT THERE.
IT PICKS UP THE SIGNAL FROM THE PORTAL AND ROUTES IT BY MICROWAVE BACK TO THE CENTRAL TOWER.
AND THERE IS A COMPARATOR THERE ALSO MADE BY RAYTHEON CALLED THE RAYTHEON, JPSO.
AND IT SITS THERE AND IT LOOKS AT ALL THOSE SIGNALS COMING IN FROM THE DIFFERENT RECEIVERS AND IT PICKS THE BEST ONE AND IT ROUTES IT TO THE DISPATCHER AS WELL AS OUT TO THE OTHER CARS, OTHER PEOPLE.
THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND YOU GET INTO, UH, RECEIVER VOTING SYSTEMS, IT'S INFINITELY CHEAPER TO DO AN ANALOG THAN IT IS P 25.
P 25 IS A COMPLICATED THING TO DO RECEIVER VOTING.
NOBODY IN OUR AREA IS DOING IT.
THE CITY OF DALLAS, I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT ANALOG BUILDING IS STRAIGHTFORWARD, EASY TO PUT IN AND SHEET.
UM, AND THE KENWOOD RADIO IS, IS VERY EASY TO INTERFACE THAT RADIO WITH IT RECEIVER VOTING.
SO YOU GET YOUR VOLUNTEER FIREMEN OUT THERE AND THEY'VE GOT THOSE LITTLE INEXPENSIVE PORTABLES THEY CAN STILL TALK IN WITHOUT A BUY 1500, 2000 P2 FIVE.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ONE OF WHICH IS THE BUDGET DEFICIT.
SO THE QUESTION IS TO BE ABLE TO BUY THIS REAL EXPENSIVE HIGHEND STUFF, HOW MUCH LONGER IS ON LAND SECURITY MONEY GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT? AND IF YOU BUY IT NOW, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THAT AND BUY THAT HIGH END STUFF THAT CAN GET PROPRIETARY WITH THE RIGHT SOFTWARE UPGRADES, UH, IT CAN BECOME PROPRIETARY.
NOW THIS IS NOT PROPRIETARY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW WITH THE MOTOR ROLL.
IT'S NOT, BUT IT CAN BECOME THAT POINT IF YOU CHANGE IT AROUND VERY MUCH WITH A KID WOOD, IT'S AN OPEN SYSTEM THAT WORK WITH ANYBODY'S RADIOS.
IF YOU DECIDE TO STAY P 25 AND DO ALL THAT REAL FANCY P 25 STUFF, IT'S STILL OPEN AND THEY WORK WITH ANYBODY'S RADIOS.
BUT WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING IS THEY'RE DOING ANALOG VOTING, UH, AND UH, WITH RECEIVERS ON THESE WATER TOWERS.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY SIGHT RENT.
THE CITY'S LET YOU PUT THE STUFF ON THEIR WATER TOWER AND YOU MICROWAVE IT BACK.
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AND, UH, ALSO, UH, INTERFACING THE KINGWOOD UH, REPEATER SYSTEM WITH CONSOLES FOR CENTRALIZED DISPATCHING IS A BREEZE.SO THE REASON, SO THE REASON THAT THIS THING IS 37% LESS IS FIRST OF ALL IT'S SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD EQUIPMENT.
AND I GAVE YOU DIR PRICING ON IT, WHICH IS, UH, TEXAS STATE PRICING.
UM, NOW WE'RE A PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY.
I GUESS YOU ALL DON'T KNOW THAT.
I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS 38 YEARS AT CLARK COUNTY.
IT'S BIG TOWER RIGHT HERE BEHIND TRINITY VALLEY CO-OP, THAT'S OUR TOWER AS PART OF THE MICROWAVE SYSTEM WE PUT IN FOR RAVEN LAKE CO-OP OF WHICH TRINITY VALLEY IS.
SO WE'VE BEEN DOING BIG SYSTEMS FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT THING GOES ALL THE WAY FROM SHERMAN DENNISON, POWELL STATE.
SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY EXPERIENCING IN DOING MICROWAVE WORK.
AND I CAN FORESEE IN THIS COUNTY AS YOU GROW, YOU'RE BRILLIANT THERE NOW, WHICH YOU MAY WANT TO IMPROVE YOUR TWO-WAY RADIO COVERAGE, TALKBACK COVERAGE IN ALL THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
AND IF YOU START WITH THIS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO IT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOME HOMELAND SECURITY MONEY.
THE OTHER THING IS THE BIG, IF YOU LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER, CONGRESS HAS MANDATED 700 MEGAHERTZ SPECTRUM FOR POLICE USE AND THAT IS STARTING TO COME ONLINE AND NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA REALLY HAPPEN WITH IT.
THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE MOBILE DATA'S GONNA BE DONE.
UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE SPECTRUM IS TO DO IT.
THAT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL.
IF IN THE FUTURE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW YOU WOULD'VE DECIDED TO GO THERE, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT AS MUCH MONEY ON REAL HIGH END TWO-WAY RADIO SERVICE.
SO AT THIS POINT YOU WOULD'VE TO BASICALLY JUMP REPLACE 700.
SO THE COST OF DOING THIS IS MUCH LESS.
IT'S SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD, EASY TO FIX.
CARRIES A TWO YEAR PARTS OF LABOR WARNING, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE AGE OF THAT REPEATER FOR $4,800 AND YOU SUPPLY THE OTHER ONE IN 2008 COST.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT P 25 IS BASICALLY THE FORMAT IS OBSOLETE.
THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH PROGRESS MADE BEING DRIVEN BY THE CELLULAR TECHNOLOGY.
UH, MOTOROLA HAS THE MOTOR TURBO FORMAT.
KEN WOOD HAS THE NEXT STAGE FORMAT.
BOTH OF THOSE ARE VERY HIGHLY SUPERIOR, P 25, BUT IT'S NOT THE STANDARD.
SO LAW ENFORCEMENT STAND, SO THEREFORE THEY'RE HANGING 25.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER? WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
CONSIDER THIS, WE CONSIDERING THE FACT COMMUNICATION ON BOARD, IS THIS GONNA BE COMPATIBLE WHAT WE'RE DOING? IS IT GONNA BE NOT COMPATIBLE? MY UNDERSTANDING? IT'LL BE COMPATIBLE, I BELIEVE, VERIFY WE KEEP ON, WE CERTAINLY VERIFY THAT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST MOTOROLA, UH, MOTOROLA PRODUCT THAT YOU DID HERE.
UH, IT, UH, WHAT'S WHAT'S, WHAT IS BASICALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MOTOROLA PRODUCT AND PRODUCT? THE MOTOROLA PRODUCT.
AND IF DFW IS HERE, THEY MIGHT WANT TO TALK ON THIS.
I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO COME UP.
UH, IT'S A VERY SOPHISTICATED PRODUCT.
IT'S CAPABLE OF LIKE GOING IN AND THE CITY OF DALLAS, CITY OF DALLAS CAN BUY 25 OF THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT TO CREATE A BIG, A VERY, VERY SOPHISTICATED TRUNK SYSTEM.
UM, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE SPECS ARE ACT ACTUALLY REALLY CLOSE.
UH, RECEIVER SPECS, TRANSMITTER SPECS ARE, ARE REALLY CLOSE ON BOTH EACH RADIO, BUT
THEY'RE TYPICALLY QUITE A BIT HIGHER.
THE OTHER, WHAT IS THIS A, IS THIS A, THIS MOTOROLA SYSTEM? IS THAT A 10 OR 11 MILE SYSTEM? I THINK THAT WAS IN 2008.
MAYBE, UH, GG 10 CURRENT, MOST CURRENT MOTOROLA.
AND THE NEXT EDGE IS MOST CURRENT.
AND THIS KENWOOD IS OH EIGHT MOM? YES, SIR.
THE ONE THAT'S, UH, A DIFFERENTIAL OF $1,200 A CHANCE.
AND NOW THE GENTLEMAN I COME UP AND, UH, AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
YOU'RE FROM DFW COMMUNICATION.
CERTAINLY GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT, UH, YOUR, YOUR PROPOSAL AS WELL.
AND I, I DO THINK WE, UH, WE, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND THE SHERIFF IS ASKING, I THINK ING AGENTS GET, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'LL PROBABLY NOT TAKE ACTION ON TODAY.
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MOST OF US, WE DON'T DEAL WITH, WE'RE LEARNING, BUT KINDA LIKE MURDER INSURANCE.WE'VE GONE FROM MURDER INSURANCE TO HIGH TECH RADIO.
WE ARE THE MOTOROLA MANUFACTURERS REPRESENTATIVE.
UH, WE DID SUBMIT A RESPONSE TO THE BID.
WE CHOSE NOT TO DO THE ALTERNATE, UH, CABLE PRODUCT.
STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT MOTOROLA IS A BETTER PRODUCT.
UH, AN ROLL OF PRODUCT IS BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE.
IT CAN DO THE P 25, IT CAN REMOVE THE ANALOG OR IT CAN DO BOTH.
THE MOTOR OIL PRODUCT IS, WE USE ABOUT 85% MARKET SHARE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AS FAR AS IT BEING COMPLICATED, IT IS A PIECE OF COMPLICATED EQUIPMENT.
ALL OF OUR TECHNICIANS ARE FACTORY CERTIFIED AND TRAINED.
IT'S, WE DON'T FIND IT THAT DIFFICULT TO SERVICE IT, OPTIMIZE IT, AND GET IT ON THE AIR WORKING PROPERLY.
UH, IT'S THE LATEST EQUIPMENT THAT IS OUT MANUFACTURED AS THE REPEATER BASE STATION FROM MOTOROLA AND SUPERIOR PRODUCT.
PART OF THE REASON I BELIEVE THAT IS TECHNICALLY THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE PUT INTO THE UNIT, IT WILL DO A THREE CELL INJECTION FILTER ON THE FRONT END INSTEAD OF THE CATEGORY TWO.
IT JUST HAS BETTER FILTERING CAPABILITY AND IT'S JUST SUPERIOR PRODUCT.
FRESH FOLKS WHO DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT OUT, UH, RADIO COMMUNICATION, WHAT IS FILTERING IS THAT QUALITY OF VOICE.
IT IS THE QUALITY OF THE VOICE GOING OUT AND COMING BACK.
AND THIS PRODUCT WILL ALSO IS EASY TO INSTALL MOTOR SYSTEM THAT EITHER REFERENCING TO, UM, THE SOLAR SYSTEM BASICALLY THAT WE WERE REFERENCING IS A WAY TO OUT FILL IN FULL COVERAGE AREAS.
IT'S A LESS EXPENSIVE WAY OF DOING THAT VERSUS GOING MULTIPLE SITES.
UH, I DO BELIEVE, LIKE HE MENTIONED, AT SOME POINT THE COUNTY WILL BE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE SITE, 700, 800 MEGAHERTZ, UH, TO GET THE BETTER COVERAGE, THE INTEROPERABILITY THAT YOU NEED.
AND I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S THE COUNTY, UH, THIS PRODUCT CANNOT GO DUE, CAN WOOD TO THE 700 800 MEGAHERTZ.
SO THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT NEW EQUIPMENT PURCHASE.
BUT THIS PRODUCT, THE COVER, THE COUNTY, THE COVERAGE THAT IT HAS NOW IS CAPABLE OF BEING LOOKED UP TO THE MOTOR SYSTEM AND IT'S SERVICEABLE AND QUALITY OF EQUIPMENT.
YOU HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT INSTALLED CURRENTLY AROUND THE AREA.
WE HAVE SOME AT, UH, WE'RE INSTALLING SOMETHING.
CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, CITY OF SEVERAL CIVIL CITIES.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DID, GEORGE, I KNOW THAT WE NEVER HAVE GOT A, LIKE AT MY PRECINCT BARN, WE NEVER HAVE GOT OUR, UH, MICROWAVE THING LINED UP PROPERLY.
IF WE, IF WE GO BACK AWAY, LIKE TALK ABOUT BEFORE, IS THAT GONNA BE SOME KIND OF ISSUE GETTING THE COVERAGE AROUND THAT WE, THAT WE NEED? NO, THAT'S A TOTALLY UNRELATED ISSUE.
WHEN IT COMES TO MICROWAVE, I'LL SAY THAT BOTH THESE GENTLEMEN HAD GOOD SOLUTIONS THAT I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT WE USED HUFFMAN TO PUT IN LICENSES MICROWAVE FROM THE ARMORY TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BACK TO THE, UH, COURTHOUSE, THE BIG BLUE PAIR OF BOLS YOU SEE ON TOP OF THE BUILDINGS.
THAT'S A NEW PRODUCT, VERY AFFORDABLE.
BUT, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VOTER AND USING THE MOTOROLA SOLUTION, I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS GET US AROUND THE TABLE AND DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO BE
I WOULD SAY ONE OTHER THING, WE'D BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU A BUDGET ESTIMATE AND LOOK AT YOUR COUNTY AND LOOK AT YOUR DIFFERENT SITES THAT ARE POSSIBLE IN YOUR TOWNS AND GIVE YOU JUST A ROUGH BUDGET ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ADD VOTING TO THESE FOUR CHANNELS HERE THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT IN.
THAT ONE MIGHT FOR THE FUTURE.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THAT MIGHT BE SOME INFORMATION YOU MIGHT CONSIDER.
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NAME THE ISSUE ABOUT THE MOTOROLA PRODUCT BEING POSSIBLY PROPRIETARY IN THE FUTURE.YOU ADDRESS THAT? IS THAT, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? IS IT NEVER GONNA HAPPEN IF WE GET A GUARANTEE? OR HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT WORK? OR IS THAT ON, ON THE P 25, THE MOTOROLA, ALL, ALL THE STANDARDS.
KENWOOD RADIO CAN TOP ON MO HEAT ON P 25.
UM, PAN ANALOG DIGITAL, YOU CAN DO BOTH.
THERE IS A, IN THE HUNDRED MEGAHERTZ, THE TRUNKING TECHNOLOGY THAT THAT PROTOCOL, THERE IS AN MCC MANDATE FOR PROJECT 25 PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO CURRENTLY.
OR MOTOROLA HAS PHASE ONE SYSTEMS OUT THERE.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IS THAT DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS RADIOS TO TALK ON THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS OF WHAT THAT INDIVIDUAL MANUFACTURER'S RADIO IS CAPABLE OF DOING.
SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN DOWN BUTTON ALIASES, SOME OF THOSE FUNCTIONS ARE NOT CURRENTLY CAPABLE UNDER THE PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, WHEN IT COMES OUT, IT WILL BE FULL, FULLY CAPABLE OF DOING EVERY FEATURE SET WITHIN THAT PRODUCT ON A COMPETITIVE SYSTEM.
COMPETITIVE SYSTEM IN KENWOOD JOHNSON RADIOS CAN TALK ON A MOTOR ROLL TRUCK SYSTEM AND THAT MANDATE HAS COME OUT.
I THINK IT'S 2017 IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT.
BUT IF YOU PURCHASE THE MULLER ROLLER WOULD BE YOUR BASE STATION AND IT'S P 25, BUT THAT IS AN OPEN FORMAT KENWOOD RADIO TOOL WORK ON THAT.
YEAH, I GUESS WHEN YOU DO START TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS, IN MY MIND, I GUESS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MICROWAVE SYSTEM AND TRUNK SYSTEM.
IS THAT CORRECT? TWO, TWO SEPARATE.
WELL, 12 YEARS AGO WE, WE TRIED JUNK, WE TRIED MOTOR, IT WAS A FAILURE BECAUSE WE WOULD BRING THE SIGNAL BACK ON DROP AIR AND WE RELIED ON THE LOCAL TELCO TO DO IT.
SO IT WAS A, IT WAS A DISASTER.
BUT I THINK WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS USING A, A LINE OF SIGHT POINT, POINT MICROWAVE, WHICH 12 YEARS AGO WE TRIED, THIS WAS NOT, WAS NOT AN OPTION, BUT NOW IT DID.
WE CAN SHOW YOU SIX COUNT SEVEN COUNTIES WHERE WE'VE DONE IT.
WE NOT, I BRING FOR COURT AND COURSE THE SHERIFF IS MONEY.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE NOT TAKE ACTION ON THIS.
YES, I DON'T, I DUNNO ENOUGH ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT.
MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, BUT IT'S GONNA BE UP PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH IT ON A MORE FREQUENT BASIS PROBABLY.
SO DO WE WANT TO TABLE IT OR DO WE WANT, UH, WHAT PLACE? JUDGE, I BELIEVE
ONCE AGAIN, I, LET'S LET DOCTOR KNOW GET THIS A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TABLE AND MR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN PRAYER SAY AYE.
NEEDED DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER, UH, EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING A DONATION OF HUNDRED TO FROM THE WISE COUNTY.
JOE ASKED THE AGENDA NOT HERE.
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MAKE THAT I SECOND THAT AND WE'LL FIND OUT ABOUT THAT.WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK, A SECOND COMMISSIONER MAN.
ALL FAVOR SAY ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO UH, DISCUSS CONSIDER RESOLUTION THE GRANT FOR TON COUNTY SENIOR CITIZENS AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE ON DELIVER MILL GRANT A PROGRAM.
THIS IS AN ANNUAL, UH, GRANT THAT WE GET.
WE DO UH, FUND, UH, I BELIEVE WE $50,000 IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET FOR THE UH, SENIOR CITIZEN GROUP.
AND UH, I BELIEVE THEY USE KAI AS A MATCHING, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THIS ANNUALLY.
YOU'RE ON THAT BOARD IS MANY TIMES THERE CERTAIN ON ELDERLY PEOPLE WE PUT IN THE STATE.
TEXAS MATCHES IT MANY TIMES OVER AND IF WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT OPEN THAT AT ALL.
IT WORKED GREAT OUT TO THE FAVOR NUMBER PEOPLE WE'VE GOT IN THE GETTING THE AGRICULTURE.
ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION.
SO JACKSON, MOTION TO BE SECOND.
OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER PURCHAS VEHICLES, UH, VARIOUS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, COUNTY BUDGET TO NEW VEHICLE, SOME OF CONSTABLE VEHICLE.
OKAY, ALL I HAVE ALL THESE AND UM, NOW ONE OF THESE IS TWO PAGES BECAUSE WRITTEN OF THE, SO I COPIED THAT AS WELL.
UM, THIS ONE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE IT HAS PLACE WORLD WAR II, TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD.
I WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF, THAT STUFF WAS ON THERE, BUT FIVE, OH SECOND THIS ONE WAS FOUR.
THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL BOOKS WE ALL LEAVE OUT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR GO QUESTION TIME, I'LL PULL THE BOOK AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT TOGETHER.
I'M LEAVE THEM UNLESS YOU NEED SOME INFORMATION OFF THEM.
THERE'S ONE MORE THAN I HALF THOUGH.
YOU HAVE YOUR, YOU FILL THAT YOU HAVE PAPER.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE I HAD IN MY MIND AT, AT WALMART.
SHE, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, SO I WAS JUST TEXTING.
UM, WELL MY, ON MY DAD'S SIDE, MY AUNT, UM, ON MY MOTHER'S SIDE, WHICH IS WHAT I'M WORKING ON, UM, MY COUSIN GOT SOME TO HER FROM A FRIEND OF HERS FROM ANCESTRY, BUT WE'RE NOT,
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I'M NOT SET UP ON IT.IT'S AMAZING HOW PERHAPS YOU CAN PROGRESS BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS DONE A TREE SHARE INFORMATION.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT, I MIGHT SET IT UP BECAUSE I MEAN, ON MY MOM'S SIDE THERE'S SOME THAT'S DOING, I KNOW RELATIVES ARE DOING IT.
I MEAN IT'S INTERESTING, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GET 30 DAYS FREE.
JUST YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER TO CANCEL IT IF YOU DON'T, I JUST SUBSCRIBE TO IT NOW I USE IT FOR WORK AS WELL.
HOW MUCH THEY CHARGE FOR THAT, UM, TO SUBSCRIBE TO LIKE 24, 24 A MONTH OR SO? WELL, I PAY 30 A MONTH BECAUSE I HAVE THE FULL ACCESS.
OH, YOU GOT THE INTERNET? YEAH.
SO 24 30 MONTH AND THEN THEY JUST TAKE IT OUT EVERY, THERE'S, I SEEN THAT ON THERE.
I WAS LIKE, DOWNLOAD THIS APP.
I WAS LIKE, OKAY, MAYBE I CAN DOWNLOAD THIS APP.
AND I WAS LIKE, STILL, YEAH, IT PUT MY TREE ON HERE AND THE SHOW UP SO I MESS AROUND SOMETHING.
THAT PERSON CLICK SHOWS SOMETIMES AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, I, I'VE GOT THREE PEOPLE IN MY HUSBAND'S.
OKAY, NOW I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT.
I JUST, WELL, AND IF NOTHING ELSE, IT'LL GIVE YOU A PLACE TO START.
IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT, FIND, YEAH.
IS THAT CHARGE TOO? THAT OR I DON'T THINK SO.
FIND A AND A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT PICTURES OF THEIR HEAD.
AND IF IT, I ONLY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED YOU'RE GETTING SERIOUS WITH THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING BECAUSE SEE, I'M, I'M TRYING TO KIND OF, I I'M THE SICK PERSON OF MY MOTHER'S KIDS AND SO I'M LIKE GOING, OKAY, REALLY WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? WHO HAD THIS? AND I'M JUST LIKE, MOST OF THEM ARE DYING FROM CHRONIC AND BRONCHITIS.
ONE, I'VE GOTTA KEEP BRONCHITIS.
TREATMENTS ARE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WHY MY HEALTH IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.
SO I'M TRYING TO GET, I KNOW MY PRICE IS PRETTY CLOSE
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THOUGH.THE NEW CHEVROLET'S CROWN'S NOT MADE ANYMORE.
AND I THINK NEW CHEVROLETS, UH, ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN UH, UH, VERY GOOD PRICE.
THE, UH, VEHICLE SELL EQUIPMENT 30 1009 57.
UH, THE LAST PAGE THERE, 13 TAHOES WITH IT'S FOUR 40,003.
WE HAVE CARS, THEY NEED CAMERAS AND UH, LIKE THAT, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 2250 PIECE.
IT BRINGS A TOTAL, UH, TOTAL, THE COST OF CAR IS 4 56 67 AND I THINK THE PLAN IS TO, UH, PURCHASE, UH, HALF THE VEHICLES OUT.
EASIER WAY TO SEPARATE THAT WOULD BE, IN MY MIND WOULD BE APPEAL.
THE OTHER SEVEN NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE SIXTH FOR THE, AND THE TRAVERSE ACTUALLY EVERY DAY THE SAME.
WHERE'S THE TRAVERSE GOING? JUVENILE PROBATION ONE.
THOSE, AND I TELL YOU WHAT, THAT'S
I I JUST, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UH, IS THERE, OF COURSE THE, THE TAHOE, WHAT DOES HAVE A TRUCK CHASSIS UNDER, UH, THAT TRAVERSE HAS A MODIFIED TRUCK, HAS A B SIX? I I THINK I JUST, I JUST, JUST WONDERING, UH, I THINK I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE TRAVERSE WAS ON THE TABLE, BUT, UH, WHY COULDN'T WE USE TRAVERSE, TRY SOME OF THESE TRAVERSES IN PLACE OF TAHOES? ARE THEY NOT? I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE GBW TO SEE HOW MUCH WEIGHT THEY WOULD CARRY.
WELL I GUESS THE QUICK ANSWER WOULD BE OFFER PACKAGE.
UH, WHENEVER WE, WHEN WE GET THESE, WHEN WE GET THESE IN PLACE, DO WE HAVE A PROCEDURE, UH, WHERE THE, THE VEHICLES THAT THEY'RE REPLACING, ARE THEY TURNED BACK IN TO BE SOLD? UH, OR HOW, WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THE PAST ON THAT JUDGE? IT COULD HAVE BEEN ALL OVER.
UH, WE HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE.
I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAYBE HAVE PASS A RESOLUTION THAT UH, YOU'RE GONNA GET A NEW VEHICLE THAT YOU TURN IN ROLLING STOCK FOR STOCK.
SO THAT WE COULD, I MEAN I THINK THE IDEA IS YOU GOT SOME VEHICLES THIS HIGH MILEAGE AND SELL THOSE MAKE IT UP FUND FOR NEXT TIME AROUND.
SO THREE YOU THAT AMOUNT OF CAR GET YOU SEND AMOUNT BACK IN.
THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE BUDGET.
WE'RE GONNA GET NEW VEHICLES AND CAR, CAR ATTORNEY THAT WHAT WE AGREED ON.
DO WE NEED TO PASS A RESOLUTION OR SOMETHING PERHAPS IN THAT REGARD BY TIMES YOU'LL HAVE A SITUATION WHERE, OH YEAH, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THAT AS A, AS A MATTER OF RECORD THOUGH, THAT WE COULD EVEN DO IT.
I GUESS THE TODAY THAT THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.
WELL, MY CONCERN IS, IS IS UH, ONCE THESE VEHICLES THAT WERE TAKING OUT SERVICE CONSTABLES DRIVING, UH, VEHICLES EVERY DAY DOWN THERE, IF THEY'RE TAKEN OUTTA SERVICE AND NOT MOVED, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY, THEY GONNA GO DOWNHILL FAST.
SOME OF OUR CONSTABLE VEHICLE PLUS MILES, WHAT KIND OF THEY WOULD MORE VALUE WE SELL, THEY'LL HAVE MORE VALUE I THINK.
WELL THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL KEEP FOR US SINCE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE INVENTORY NOW.
AND THERE'LL BE TIMES OF COURSE WHERE MAYBE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, MAYBE THEY PASS CARS THEY'VE GOT SO THAT MIGHT NOT MEET, UH, LAW
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ENFORCEMENT NEEDS MIGHT GO A COUPLE WORKS OR, YOU KNOW.BUT IN THEORY YOU SHOULD HAVE THE WORST CAR CERTIFIC.
SO, WELL WHEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CARS OUT CITIZENS ON PATROL ALSO THAT WE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE ARE REALLY BEYOND THEIR, THEIR USE TO WORK.
WE, WE NEED TO EVALUATE THE FLEET AND, AND OBVIOUSLY GET RID OF EVERYTHING WE CAN.
UH, SO WE'VE GOT THE CARS THAT WE'VE KEPT REALLY FOR PARTS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BUY ANY CARS.
SO YOU GOTTA, AND WE'VE GOT SOME CARS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AND WE GOT SOME THAT ARE STRIPPED DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE USED THEM FOR, FOR PARTS TO KEEP EVERYTHING FLOODED.
SO, BUT, UH, I THINK WE, WE NEED, I I AGREE.
WE NEED TO HAVE A FORMALIZED SYSTEM ON THAT.
EVEN THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN STRIPPED DOWN, I GUESS THAT STILL HAVE SOMES, YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MUCH THESE OLD PATROL CARS BRING.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN THEY, I'M SURPRISED THEY PAY YOU THAT MUCH FOR, BUT THEY WILL PAY JUST FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
THEY LOOK, THEY SEE X OF CARS OUT, THERE'S SO MANY CARS OUT THERE COMPARED TO EMPLOYEES.
I HEAR SOME LIKE THE JAIL, THE SHERIFF HAVE X AMOUNT CARS PARKED THOSE CARS THAT WE TURN THEM INTO ELL, THE YARD, THE PUBLIC, PROBABLY ALL THESE OUT THERE.
EVEN THOUGH, WELL I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THIS ADOPTABLE BUDGET.
YOU KNOW THAT IF REQUEST SIX CARS, FIVE, THEY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY, EVERY AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRE, MARSHAL, NCE, WHATEVER, THEY GOT CARS WHERE YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE BUYING NEW CARS AND YOU'RE NEVER SELLING ANY IN YOUR FLEET GETS PRETTY LARGE AND MAYBE THAT FLEET INCLUDE ARE NOT EVEN WORTH, ARE NOT WORKING, ARE NOT.
BUT THE PERCEPTION THAT YOU HAVE MORE TODAY AND ALSO, UH, WHO, WHO TAKES CARE OF THE INSURANCE ON THESE CARS WHEN THEY GET SWAPPED OUT.
IN OTHER WORDS, UH, I KNOW RAY DID SOME RESEARCH ON THIS LAST YEAR ABOUT THE INSURANCE BEING DROPPED ON THE OLD CARS AND, AND UM, PUT IN ON NEW CARS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INSURANCE IS, IS TAKEN CARE OF DROPPING THOSE CARS.
DID YOU GET SOMETHING IN PLACE TO COVER THAT? WELL THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE CARING RESPONSIBILITY DOCTORS, MAKING SURE WE INSURED YOU'RE NOT INSURED ONE OTHER.
WELL, UH, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TOO, OBVIOUSLY WE BUY NEW CARD.
FIRST THING I'M GONNA DO IS TAKE PAPERWORK, ALERT THEM, THEY NEED TO GET INSURANCE BY SAME, IF WE SELL SOMETHING THEN I NOTIFYING THOSE FOLKS THAT CAR WE NO CARS.
BUT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS MAYBE HAVE VEHICLES OUT THERE THAT ARE RARELY USED, EXTRA CAR OR WHATEVER.
WE HAVE NO WAY NO EVIDENCE DEPARTMENT TELLS US.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
SEE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS Y'ALL MAY HAVE AROUND YOUR, IT'S ALL LIKE THE CO'S OFFICE.
THEY'VE GOT SOME CARS OUT THERE THAT REALLY NOT WORTH HAVING, BUT THEY'RE HANGING ONTO THEM BECAUSE CAR SO BAD.
IT'S A GOOD, REALLY IS GOOD YEAR TO GET.
ALRIGHT, OTHER OTHER QUESTION FOR JACK ON THESE VEHICLES, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PERSON OF THE VEHICLES OUTLINED, UH, FROM THE PERSON AGENT THROUGH THE TAR COUNTY.
AND WE HAVE I THAT MOTION MAN, THAT MOTION A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND MOTION DISCUSSION FAVOR SAY, AYE.
WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF.
GOTTA MAKE SURE I IN BEFORE I,
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I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO TURN IT OFF.I'M GONNA GO GET THE SHERIFF ONE DAY.
SHERIFF, I HEAR THEY'VE GOT THAT THAT YOU GOING, THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH PACKAGE.
CALL THE COURT BACK THE ORDER AND WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 11.
THAT'S TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THAT POPULAR SUBJECT.
WE HAVE SEVERAL PAGES OF THESE, YOU KNOW, FISCAL YEAR, SO JUST BEAR WITH ME.
MEETING THESE EMAIL TEAM FRIDAY.
THE HANDLE WAS BURNED AT BOTH ENDS LATE FRIDAY TO TRY TO GET ALL IN.
TRYING TO WAIT THE LAST MINUTE.
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SUGGEST SUGGESTION THAT, UH, IN THE PAST WE HAD A THRESHOLD THAT YOU WOULD BRING UP TO US.I MEAN YOU GIVE US THIS LIST, ALL RIGHT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN DISCUSS THE THINGS UNDER A CERTAIN DOLLAR SO IT WOULD SAVE YOU A LOT OF TIME.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THERE WAS NOW $500 OR 700.
WHAT WAS, WELL WHEN I TALK TO THE JUDGE AND ASKED HIM, HE SAID JUST LISTEN, THAT'S NO, I MEAN I'M FINE WITH WITH, UH, BUT I MEAN WE NEED TO TAKE AN ACTION AS SOMETHING.
I MEAN IT WOULD BE A LOT SIMPLER LIKE ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REMOVAL, $2.
WE'LL, WE'LL SEE THAT AND SIGN OFF ON IT, BUT FAR AS YOU GOING THROUGH THIS YEAH.
WHATEVER'S LEGAL Y'ALL, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FULL BUDGET EVERY NIGHT.
WHERE DID YOU HEAR? OH NO, WE DID IT HERE.
AND I CAN REMEMBER WE AUTHORIZED HIM AT A CERTAIN TIME TO SAY JUST BRING TO US, UH, LAND ITEM TRANSFERS A ABOVE A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT.
I SAID WE DIDN'T WORRY ABOUT THE $12 $18 THINGS.
WE WORRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER.
BUT AS FAR AS YOU HAVING TO OUT READING ALL THAT, KAREN, CAN YOU MAYBE DO A LISTERV, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF YOUR, WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT DOLLAR, BUT I MEAN THAT'S LIKE TWO, I MEAN THAT'S, IS THAT REALLY THE BEST, YOU KNOW, USE OF OUR TIME? RIGHT.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE LIFE SIMPLER.
UNDER THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WE NEED TO INCREASE, UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES 5,500 COMMUNICATION SLASH LINE BY 6,600 OFFICE FURNITURE SLASH EQUIPMENT BY 500.
UH, NEED TO DECREASE INSURANCE, PROPERTY AND GENERAL LIABILITY BY 12,600.
UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS HUNDRED TWO OF INCREASE IN DECREASE DISTRICT ATTORNEY 875, INCREASE IN DECREASE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT.
TWO, AN INCREASE OF TWO 10 AND A DECREASE OF TWO 10 JUDICIAL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UH, THERE'S SEVERAL THREE LINE ITEMS THAT HAD TO BE INCREASED BY 87 8,780 AND A DECREASE FROM UH, 4,427 INDIGENT FENCE 87 80 TO BALANCE THE JAIL FUND, UH, INCREASE OF 6,425 AND A DECREASE OF 606,425 TAX ASSESSOR AN INCREASE IN DECREASE OF $616 MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION AND INCREASE OF THREE LINE ITEMS FOR 1,734 AND ONE DECREASE FOR 1007 34.
FIRE MARSHAL, THIS IS WHERE WE HELPED HIM WITH HIS GAS AND OIL BECAUSE OF THE, THE FIRE DAMAGE OF THOUSAND $223 AND A DECREASE OF THOUSAND 2 23 CONSTABLE PRECINCT THREE, AN INCREASE OF $1,225 AND A DECREASE OF 1,225 SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AN INCREASE OF $27,157 FOR FOUR LINE ITEMS AND A DECREASE IN FOUR LINE ITEMS OF 27,000 1 57 JAIL FUND, AN INCREASE OF $19,088 AND A DECREASE OF 19,088 INDIGENT DEFENSE.
AN INCREASE OF TWO LINE ITEMS, UH, FOR 7,426 AND ONE DECREASE OF 7,000 4 26.
THIS IS THE PURCHASE OF SEVEN COUNTY VEHICLES FOR $240,000 AND I WANT TO DECREASE THE JAIL OF THOSE OPEN POSITIONS BY 240,000.
COMPUTER, UH, DEPARTMENT AN INCREASE OF 10,004 40 AND A DECREASE OF TEN FOUR FORTY.
THE REASON FOR THIS IS THE CONVERSION OF GETTING ALL THE INVENTORY HISTORY BROUGHT OVER.
THEY HAD SENT A BILL TO SOMEBODY FOR $12,000 FOR THE ANNUAL CONTRACT RENEWAL AND WE NEVER RECEIVED IT AND GEORGE GOT IT FOR ME AND WE WANTED TO PAY IT SO WE CAN GET THE REST OF THE COOPER, UH, INFORMATION
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TECHNOLOGIST DEPARTMENT, UH, INCREASE OF 151 AND A DECREASE OF HUNDRED 51 TRANSFERS.INDIGENT HEALTHCARE I NEED TO INCREASE BY $16,000.
AND THE MEDICAL CONTRACT IN THE JAIL, UH, WE'VE ALREADY PAID THAT IN FULL SO WE WANTED TO DECREASE BY 16,000.
UH, YOU REMEMBER SOMEHOW THE SHERIFF IN INDIGENT CARE TRANSFERRED SOME OF THE, THE PRISONER INDIGENT TO HER BUDGET, HER FUND.
SO THAT KIND OF GAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO WORK WITH.
CHILD SHELTER IS BIG TRANSFERS OF $19,412 IN A DECREASE OF 19,412.
THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY LOADING, UH, LOADING UP THE INVENTORY AT THE END OF YEAR.
ARE THEY ON THIS, ON THIS DEAL? NO SIR.
THIS IS STUFF THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED WHEN SHE DID HER ORIGINAL 12,000, 2012 BUDGET, IT WAS ESTIMATED ON SEVEN TO EIGHT CHILD, CHILD CHILDREN AND SHE'S KEEPING UP SOMEWHERE 12 TO 14.
SO THE COST HAVE INCREASED BUT ALSO HAS HER REVENUES BECAUSE OF THAT.
I KNOW THAT'S, YOU'RE WORKING WITH THAT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THE BOARD ACTUALLY APPROVED HER BUDGET, BUT I DIDN'T GET A COPY OF IT.
THE BUDGET THAT YOU APPROVED IN YOUR DOCUMENT I GAVE YOU IS ACTUALLY THE ONE SHE AND I WORKED ON.
SO NOW THAT SHE'S GONNA BRING ME THE NEW BUDGET FOR 2013, THERE WILL BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE AND I'LL EXPLAIN THOSE WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS ROAD BRIDGE.
ONE OF AN INCREASE IN A DECREASE OF $900 ROAD AND BRIDGE TWO, AN INCREASE OF $9,016 AND A DECREASE OF 9,016 ROAD AND BRIDGE.
THREE, AN INCREASE OF 58 75 AND A DECREASE OF 58 75 ROAD BRIDGE.
FOUR, AN INCREASE OF 4,000 AND A DECREASE OF 4,000.
UH, KAUFFMAN COUNTY LIBRARY, AN INCREASE OF $1,875 AND A DECREASE OF 1,875 RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND.
UH, AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $9,500 AND A DECREASE OF 9,500.
AND THAT WAS, I THINK THAT'S IT ON THAT SHEET.
NOW, UM, FOR 2013, I HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
UH, I NEED TO INCREASE, UH, THE PURCHASE OF THE REMAINING SEVEN OF VEHICLES OF $235,000.
THE TWO, THE TWO 40 AND THE 2 35 IS THE 4 75 THAT WE ESTIMATED THE PURCHASE OF THE 14 WOULD BE WITH THE EQUIPMENT.
JACK BROUGHT YOU THE QUOTE, I THINK IT WAS 4 56.
SO WE'LL HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT EXTRA IN CASE WE HAVE SOMETHING COME UP.
COMMISSIONER FOR THIS, FOR OUT THE OLD BUDGET, THE 1112 AND THEN THE NEW BUDGET, WE WOULD DO 35,000.
WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT ANY FUND BALANCE IS WAS ALRIGHT.
UH, LET, LET, LEMME TALK ABOUT THAT JUST A SECOND.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOPEFULLY BEING ABLE TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE BUDGET, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE DON'T GET INTO A ALL THIS TIME SO WE NEED TO DO THAT.
BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE'LL NEXT YEAR, THE NEW BUDGET WITH THIS ADDITIONAL AMOUNT AND THEN WE'LL FINANCE THAT PART.
BUT IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE E BUDGET BECAUSE AT THAT TIME IN, I MEAN IN THE NEW BUDGET OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAD HOPE SO I WANT BUDGET AMENDMENT.
YEAH, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER SIR, CAN WE GO BUDGET AN AMENDMENT UNDER A LINE ITEM
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TRANSFER AGENDA ITEM? OR IS THAT A SEPARATE, UH, YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.HMM? YOU, I'VE SUBMITTED SEVERAL OF THESE SINCE I'VE BEEN EMPLOYED HERE.
AND YOU'VE DONE YOU I MEAN IF YOU WANT ME TO HOLD OFF, THAT'S FINE.
NO, NO, IT'S, IT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE FUND.
I MEAN I HOLD SEPARATE THING AND THIS IS TO DO AS UH, AN EMERGENCY SO WE CAN GET THE PO ISSUED AND TIE THOSE UP.
WELL FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AS FAR AS FINANCING, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN HANDLED BY THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
I WHAT YOU TOLD ME PAST AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK HAS GIVEN US WHAT 2% BELIEVE INTEREST RATE THESE VEHICLES? YES, I, THE OFFICER OFFICE GONNA HANDLE THE, DISCUSS THAT, BUT I'LL GET ALL THE, I'LL GET STARTED DURING OUTSIDE AUDIT.
ALL THE QUESTIONS RELATED TO FINANCING, WE'LL GET THAT WORKED OUT.
IT'S NOT REALLY A TRANSFER IT FOR AMENDMENT.
I HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ENTRY YET.
OKAY, I WANT TO INCREASE THE PURCHASE OF THE COUNTY VEHICLES FOR 235,000 AND I WANT TO INCREASE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO REQUIRE THE REVENUE FROM THE FOR 205 OFFSET.
DID THAT ANSWER THAT QUESTION? IT ANSWERS YOU RIGHT? LOOKING BACK, TRYING TO REMEMBER.
I KNOW WE EVER HAD AN AGENDA ITEM EXCEPT THEY'RE ALL DONE.
THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN DONE THIS WAY.
IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA COME BACK AND 12, BUT I DON'T WANT DELAY GETTING THE VEHICLE A PROBLEM JAY, MY PLANS ARE IS, IS ARE TO ISSUE A PO UH, OUT OUT THE SYSTEM RIGHT NEXT YEAR I'M DO A MANUAL FIELD TIME.
WE GET THE VEHICLES IN HERE, WE'LL GET DOCUMENTS IN OFF.
I GUESS ONE QUESTION I WOULD THAT I'M DOING WHAT NOW? OKAY.
YOU'RE PUTTING IN TWO 35,000 FOR, FOR THE OTHER MM-HMM
MM-HMM I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IF YOU TAKE 2 35 AND BUY BY 36 MONTHS, 48 MONTHS, HOWEVER LONG YOU GONNA FINANCE THEN THAT WOULD ONLY THAT YEAR.
I YEAR YES WE WE'RE ACTUALLY HOPING GO BACK MAYBE WE HAVE WE ANTICIP THIS YEAR.
IT'S JUST HARD TO KIND OF JAGUAR ON GET THIS NEXT PAYROLL DONE.
PEOPLE THAT NOT SOME PEOPLE HAVE SPEND EVERY TIME.
BUT NOW I WANT EVERYBODY TO COMFORTABLE.
AGENDA A BUDGET AMENDMENT NEXT TIME IT'S OFFSETTING REVENUE WITH UH, WITH THE, WE CAN DO THAT IF YOU FEEL ALRIGHT.
UH, FOR INDIGENT HEALTHCARE FUND 16, I NEED TO INCREASE THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND OF $16,000 AND INCREASE FOR EXPENSE LINE ITEM FOR INDIGENT ELIGIBLE EXPENSES FOR 16 THE CHILD SHELTER FUND 19.
I NEED TO INCREASE HER A-A-F-D-C STATE REVENUES BY 39,341 AND INCREASE HER PART-TIME YOUTH WORKERS BY 39,000 3 41.
AND THAT IS A BUDGET NOT LINE TRANSFER.
UH, SHE DID GET ADDITIONAL 23 IN AND SHE WANTED TO AMEND
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THE BUDGET FOR THAT WHOLE AMOUNT.AND I I HER, I TALKED TO SOME OF THE BOARD AND THEY AGREE THAT WAS A BIG WAY TO DO IT.
ALRIGHT SO QUESTION THIS LAST LOT.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T PROMISE YOU BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING EMERGENCY BILLS THIS WEEK JUST TO GET EVERYTHING TO THIS BUDGET AND SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEEN BUDGETED FOR THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WE GET PAID FRIDAY BUT WE STILL HAVE IT SEVEN DAYS IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER THAT WE'LL GET PAID IN OCTOBER AND IT'S NEVER BEEN ACCRUED CORRECTLY AS THOSE SEVEN DAYS SHOULD BE CHARGED TO SEPTEMBER 12 BUDGET.
THAT'S, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE 'CAUSE THEY WERE EARNED HERE.
THAT'S HOW WE DID THE AUDITORS BECAUSE THE OLD SOFTWARE, THE AUDITORS, WHEN WE ROLL FORWARD, SO THE TREASURER, EVERYBODY HAS GOOD BEGINNING NUMBERS IN THE CASH AND THE BANKS AND INVESTMENTS.
YOU CAN'T GO BACK IN THERE AND PUT ANY ENTRIES IN THERE.
SO WHEN THE AUDITORS DO AN OUTSIDE AUDIT, THE ENTRIES HAVE TO REALLY HIT FUND BALANCE AND THEY'LL CREDIT YOUR SALARY LINE ITEMS BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT FOR THOSE SEVEN DAYS.
WHOEVER WORKS ON THE WEEKEND TOO.
MONEY THROUGH FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY ON MONDAY.
BUT THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR COMES IN MANUALLY AS BEEN DOING THAT IN THE PAST I GUESS.
BUT WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE, THE AUDITOR'S DEPARTMENT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
ONCE I GET A PAYROLL EDIT FROM IF THE COUNTY TREASURER AND WE WILL START ACCRUING THAT AND WE'LL HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF WHERE YOU'RE SITTING.
'CAUSE THEN YOU HAVE ALL YOUR EXPENDITURES IN, OKAY, THAT'S ALL THE ISSUE 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
27TH IF IT'S APPROVED, IF YOU ACTUALLY, IF YOU ACCRUE CORRECTLY, YES, IT'S ELIMINATE WHY NOT DO THAT BEFORE? BECAUSE SOFTWARE I GUESS WOULD DO IT I GUESS.
SURE WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER THOUGH.
WELL AND THE NEW SOFTWARE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY CLOSE THE PHYSICAL YEAR.
YOU AT THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH, YOU CAN LEAVE IT OPEN.
SO IF TOM FANNING BRINGS ME AN INVOICE TWO WEEKS INTO OCTOBER AND IT'S DATED FOR THE PRIOR YEAR, I CAN GO AND ACCRUE THAT IN THE PAYABLES AND FIX IT.
SO THAT RIGHT BUDGET, THAT CURRENT OLD BUDGET IS HIT FOR THOSE EXPENDITURES AND NOT TRUE.
BUT WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME CUTOFF DATES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO STUFF TO US.
WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS WE NEED TO INCORPORATE IN THIS MOTION.
ONE WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER AS IT RELATES TO WENT OVER WITH US, WHICH IS TYPICALLY, BUT WE'LL ALSO, UH, IF THAT'S WHAT WE CHOOSE TO DO, INCLUDE FINANCING AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER, UH, WE WERE THE OLD BUDGET OR YEAH, IT WAS THE OLD BUDGET FOR THE CHILD CHAPTER OR THE CHILDREN.
THE AMOUNT OF THE 30, 39,000 SOMETHING.
AND WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED TO GET OUR COURT REPORTER HERE, BUT
MAKE THAT SOMETHING YOU KAREN THROUGH.
MAKE SURE WE GET ALL TALKING HERE.
SIT HERE AND TRY TO GET ALL THAT INTO ONE.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE NO LONGER DOING THIS MATTER.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU NOT COMFORTABLE DOING THAT? OH YEAH.
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SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT.SO HAVE YOU GOT A MOTION DOWN MARYANNE A POSSIBLE MOTION? NO, SHE'S SUPPOSED TO.
IT WOULD BE ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS.
FIRST PART OF IT WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE NINE ITEM TRANSFER.
THE SECOND PART OF THE MOTION WOULD BE TO AMEND THE NEXT TO THE 1213 BUDGET FOR, FOR THE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES AND THE FINANCE, THOSE VEHICLES.
AND THEN, UH, THEN THERE WAS A WAS THERE ANOTHER? YES, THERE'S A 16,000 FOR EXPENSE.
THEN THE CHILD SHALL 9,000 3 41.
AND THAT'S THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE OLD BUDGET.
WE GOING MARY ANN, SHE, KAREN WILL MAKE SURE AND THIS KIND OF END OF THE YEAR, SO, BUT IT'S, IT'S QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVITY.
JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RECORDING.
YOU PUT THAT IN FORM OF MOTION OR DO YOU WANNA REPEAT THAT OR? YEAH, I THINK GOT RIGHT I ITEM S PRESENTED, WE AMEND THE, WOULD THAT BE THE 2012 BUDGET? 20 HEALTHCARE 20.
IS THAT WHAT IT WAS CHAIRMAN? YES.
AND THEN THE CHILD SHELTER BUDGET BY 39,341.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THANK YOU FOR WORKING THROUGH THAT.
KAREN, THANK FOR THE FOUND BUDGET.
THERE'S Y'ALL ACTUALLY, AND IT WAS COURT.
NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER JACKSON WANTS A COPY OF BUDGETING.
I HAD THREE THINGS ON IT AND I DIDN'T SAY THIS ONE.
DID HE SAY TO DO VEHICLES FOR TWO 35,000? WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
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COVERED.JUST TELL CAROL THIS IS A COPY SINCE HE WASN'T HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, DID YOU GIVE HIM A COPY HER A COPY OF THE BUDGET FOR HIM? NO.
THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO YEAH, THE COURTHOUSE DID THAT.
THERE'S ONE, ONE STATEMENT THAT EXTENSION MY THIRD WEEK OFF A CIGARETTE CHEW ANYBODY'S HEAD OFF YET.
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UM, YEAH, I GOT ABOUT SO FAR, MY WIFE THREATENED ME WITH HARM LAST NIGHT TO ELECTRIC CIGARETTES.SAID HE HASN'T SMOKED FOR THREE YEARS.
I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND THAT'S DONE THE SAME THING.
HE'S GOT HE THREE CIGARETTE OR I'LL BE RIGHT BACK ON.
LIKE IT TOOK ABOUT A, A CIGAR FIRST THING YOU KNOW I HAD MY LADDER.
YEAH, YOU SAID TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THING.
THE ONLY DO THAT CHANGE THAT, I MEAN
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I KNOW WE COULD DO IT.HOW PLUMBING JOB GOING OVER THERE.
YOU GET THAT OFF YOUR PHONE JOB, YOUR PLUMBING JOB.
OH, I'VE GOT TO OF MY COURT TO GO GET US PERMIT WITH THE CITY.
AND I GOT THE UH, CUT SHEETS FROM DANNY THE OTHER DAY.
THE THAT BENEATH IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T THAT UNDERSTOOD GAL.
SHE SAID SHE SAID THIS WORK BECAUSE I WAS THINKING FIVE FOOT FROM THE ALL WAY AROUND ABOUT THIS MUCH A BATHROOM ANYWAY.
IF YOU COME IN THE BATHROOM, WE'LL LET YOU BE MATERIAL TIE.
YOU KNOW WHAT COMES UP QUICKER THAN ANYBODY.
ONE THINK YOU ALREADY, I I YOU TAKE BACK, HE TAKE YOU BACK EVERY BARBECUE.
YOU KNOW THE BACK PART EVERY ONCE IN A
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I COULD EAT THEM ALL THE TIME.I KNOW Y'ALL WON'T BE, I GOT A JOB.
SO MY WIFE HAS THREATENED ME WITH BODILY HARM IF I LEAVE TO, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.
IF I HAD TO GO IN THERE AND SIT DOWN, IT'S BIG STRAP.
I THINK THAT, I MEAN GO BACK CHECK.
WENT IN AND DID THAT AND FOUND OUT AND YEAH.
SEE THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T GET THOSE NUMBERS FROM THE COUNTY.
SO I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T THE MONITOR, BUT I HAD BEES IN APPARENTLY BARBARA LEFT HERE AND STRAIGHT DOWN THERE.
EMORY GOT INTO THE, WAS IN, SHE DID A BIG ONE GUYS.
OH REALLY? ANYWAY, WE GOT UP THERE THE NEXT MORNING.
I COULDN'T GET ANYBODY TO VOLUNTEER TO, I PUT ON A FIRE SUIT HOSE.
OF COURSE THAT WAS BEFORE DAY.
THEY DIDN'T GET DOWN THERE AND TAKE MY PICTURE AND THE BUCKET.
THE LADY CALLED THE FIRST THING THIS MORNING, SAID, WELL THE BEES ARE GONE, WE AIN'T GONNA CUT.
THAT TREE DID GET, WELL IT WAS 57 DEGREES
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LEAVES STILL IN THE HOLE.I JUST GOT UP THERE WITH THAT FOAM, CRACKED THAT HOSE UP.
WHAT WE DO IS WE SAW STUFF UP, BLOCK IT UP, LEAVE IN FOUR DAYS.
I JUST LET Y'ALL KNOW MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER, UH, PROBABLY AROUND NOON WILL BE HERE FOR A WHILE.
ALL I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CLAIMS' PAPERS.
MR. JACKSON MAKES THAT MOTION A SECOND.
THANK MR. MANNY MAKES THE SECOND OTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY A SO OPPOSED MOTION TO AJOUR ADJOURN.
MR. MAN MAKES THAT MOTION A SECOND.