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COUNTY JAIL NOT APPROVED.

IF ANYONE HAS BEEN WITH COUNTY COURTHOUSE ON THE DAY THAT A JURY IS BEING SELECTED TENDANCE, THEY SEE FIRSTHAND THAT THERE IS A GREAT POSSIBILITY OF A TRAGIC EVENT OCCURRING BY MOVING THE COURT HORSE ADJACENT TO JAIL.

IT WOULD BE BETTER TO, UH, WE COULD BETTER SECURE THE PRISONERS, WITNESSES AND JURORS, AND HAVE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYONE.

I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT TAKE ACTION TO BUILD A COURT BUILDING ADJACENT TOLTON COUNTY.

UH, BILL BAKERVILLE WAS NOT ABLE TO HERE THIS MORNING.

HE HAD AN APPOINTMENT IN DALLAS, BUT HE DID SEND THIS LETTER RECORD.

ALSO, IF THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD NOW, UH, AND, UH, ADDRESS COURT, NOW BE THE TIME TO DO SO.

WE, AND, UH, WANTS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE GOTTA DO, READING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, COURTHOUSE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.

SO, COMMISSIONER, UM, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL GIVING ME A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU.

UM, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO IN MY COLUMN MESSENGER, UH, I WROTE THAT ONE OF MY BIGGEST REGRETS THAT WAS THAT WE DIDN'T GET A COURT BUILDING BUILT INSIDE THE NEW JAIL.

AND THE REASONS ARE PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT EVEN THEN WE IDENTIFIED SECURITY ISSUES THAT AS GOOD AS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS, UM, CAN ONLY BE ADDRESSED BY CREATING A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR COURTS, OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, OUR ATTORNEYS, OUR WITNESSES, OUR JURY MEMBERS, EVERYONE ELSE Y'ALL HAVE BEEN UPSTAIRS AND SEEN HOW CONGESTED THAT THOSE HALLWAYS ARE.

AND Y'ALL KNOW WHAT A, WHAT A NIGHTMARE IS ON THE COURT DAY.

UH, OUR ASSISTANT DA, UH, BEING MURDERED HERE, RIGHT BACK HERE IN THE PARKING LOT, JUST POINTED OUT ANOTHER, EACH SECURITY ISSUE WE HAVE COURTS BUILDING NEXT TO COURTHOUSE NUMBER ONE.

WE'RE NOT DRIVING PRISONERS BACK AND FORTH, TWO AND A HALF MILES FROM THE, FROM THE JAIL TO THE COURTHOUSE.

AND WE'RE NOT INCURRING THAT EXPENSE AND THE RISK, UH, BUT ALSO, UH, WE CAN TAKE THEM BACK AND FORTH THROUGH A SECURE, UH, THROUGH A SECURE CORRIDOR TO GET INTO THE COURTHOUSE.

WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE A SECURE PARKING LOT FOR JUDGES AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND, AND, UH, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT WHERE, UH, THERE'S NOT MIXING IN, UH, THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS CREATED HERE.

I BROUGHT, UH, BRONZE STAR PATCH, AND I HAD BOUGHT THIS FOR MY BROTHER IN IRAQ.

UH, HE WAS AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER, AND WHEN HE GOT FORKED BIKER IN IRAQ, HE SAW THAT THERE WAS A HUGE SECURITY ISSUE, THAT THE UNMANNED AIRCRAFT, THE DRONES THAT THEY USED IN IRAQ WEREN'T UNDER THE SAME FLIGHT REGULATIONS AS THE HELICOPTERS AND THE, THE, UH, AIRCRAFT THAT HE CONTROLLED.

SO HE TOOK UPON HIMSELF TO REWRITE THE FLIGHT REGULATIONS TO INCLUDE THOSE UNMANNED AIRCRAFT.

AND FOR THAT, HE WAS AWARDED BRONZE FARM.

UH, HE, WHAT HE DID IN, THERE'S TWO REASONS YOU GET A BRONZE STAR.

ONE IS FOR HEROIC, FOR HEROIC ADDICT, AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR MERIT, MERIT SERVICE.

AND THAT'S WHAT HE WAS GIVEN A BRONZE STAR FOR, WAS FOR MERIT MERITORIOUS SERVICE.

UH, I, THE WAY I LOVE TO TELL IT IS THAT HE, HE DECIDED TO KEEP THE PEOPLE SAFE, WHO KEEP US SAFE.

UH, AND THAT'S WHAT HE WAS GIVEN BRONZE STAR FOR, AND THAT IS WORTHY OF, OF RECOGNITION.

UM, WE, UH, I GAVE HIM A CARHARTT JACKET WITH HIS PATCH ON IT THAT, SO HE, SO HE COULD, HE COULD WEAR IT.

AND I HAD ACTUALLY BOUGHT TWO, SO I STILL HAVE ONE.

UM, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, TO BASICALLY DO THE SAME THING, KEEP THE PEOPLE SAFE.

WE KEEP US SAFE.

THERE ARE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED WHETHER THEIR FAMILY MEMBER IS GONNA COME HOME OR NOT.

UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE EITHER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THEY WORK FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

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OFFICE OR THEIR JUDGES.

UH, AND I THINK WHAT HAPPENED BACK HERE, UH, ACCENTUATED THE PROBLEM WHERE NOW NOT ONLY DO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A SECURITY ISSUE, SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE, UH, AND I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, UH, THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM, TO ALLEVIATE THOSE SAFETY ISSUES.

AND, UH, AS Y'ALL KNOW, I WAS NOT A BIG FAN OF SPENDING MONEY UNLESS WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.

I THINK THIS FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, UH, AND I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THE COURT TO DO WHAT I WASN'T ABLE TO DO AND, AND, UH, THE PREVIOUS COURT WASN'T ABLE TO DO UNTIL THOSE SECURITY HOLES.

AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I, I PROMISE I WON'T RUN OVER IN MY CURRENT JOB.

I REALLY HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE AND STAY WITHIN IT.

SO I'LL MAKE SURE TO DO THAT.

BUT I'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS.

I HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA HERE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE TO DISCUSS, AND PERHAPS WE CAN DISCUSS AND ASK.

THANK YOU COMING FORTH.

ANYBODY ELSE TO ADDRESS THE COURT? UH, JUDGE, I DIDN'T, UH, SIGN UP ON THE SHEET THERE.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A PASS.

THANK YOU.

UM, FROM COMMENTS ON A NEW COURT'S BUILDING, I THINK THAT, UH, OUR CURRENT COURTHOUSE IS SERVED WELL FOR 60 YEARS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE, UH, LANDSCAPE HAS CHANGED CONSIDERABLY SINCE THAT COURTHOUSE WAS BUILT.

UM, IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO DO WHAT IT'S DOING RIGHT NOW.

I, MATTER OF FACT, I, UH, I'M KIND OF PROUD OF BEING AS SERVICEABLE AS IT IS I CONDITIONS THAT HAS TO OPERATE IN.

UM, I WOULD FOR MANY REASONS SUPPORT A NEW COURT BILLING.

UM, ONLY ONE OF, UH, WHICH IS, UH, SECURITY FOR, UH, MY PROSECUTOR.

THE, IN THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE NOW IN THE HALLS OF THE COURTHOUSE, MANY TIMES, VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, GOD KNOWS WHAT, HAVE TO WALK RIGHT PAST THE FAMILY, UH, AND ALL THE FRIENDS OF THE DEFENDANT.

UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS TO DO THE SAME THING.

WITNESSES HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING.

UH, IT WAS IN THIS BAR.

UH, I THINK, UM, DEALING FROM A PURELY TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, THE COUNTY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A, A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF LIABILITY IF FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WAS HURT, UH, IN THE HALL, A CIVILIAN, UH, A VICTIM, UH, ANYBODY LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MINIMIZE THAT, UH, CAN ONLY BE TO OUR GOOD.

DOWN THE ROAD, UH, A COURTS BUILDING WOULD, IN MY VISION, IT WOULD BE TWO, TWO PARTY.

BASICALLY, THE FRONT WOULD BE FOR THE PUBLIC.

THE BACK WOULD BE FOR ALL COURT PERSONNEL, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT WITNESSES, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT THE TWO DO NOT COME TOGETHER.

WE COULD ARRANGE IT TO WHERE, UM, ALL THE COURT PERSONNEL ESSENTIALLY OPERATE ON ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS, OPERATE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

UM, THIS WILL, I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THERE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD TO SAVE US A LOT OF HEARTACHE AND CONSTERNATION.

AND IT WILL ALSO SAFEGUARD FOLKS LIKE, UH, MARK CASSIE WITH A SECURED PARKING LOT, UM, THAT HAS RESTRICTED ACCESS.

IF WE CAN DO THOSE TWO THINGS, MARK'S DEATH WILL NOT BE IN, UH, WE'LL ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING AND LEARN SOME THINGS FROM IT, UH, TO BETTER PROTECT, UH, EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO THE COURTHOUSE IN COUNTY.

SO, THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS COURT? NOT WE'LL MOVE INTO, UH, ITEM ONE, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANYTHING TO DISTRIBUTE IN REGARDS TO THAT.

ITEM NUMBER TWO WOULD BE THE AGENDA, AND THAT INCLUDES ITEM A, THE ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 13.

ITEM B WOULD BE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING DE OF CHRISTOPHER CRUZ, PETER PHILLIPS, AND ATKINS FOR THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S OFFICE.

ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING DE OF KAREN JONES FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

AND ITEM B TO DISCUSS CONSIDERATION BENJAMIN SHEET, UH, FOR THE COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.

ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY AGENDA?

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I MOTION PERMISSION TO ACCEPT AGENDA.

ALL FAIR TO SAY, I, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS, UH, ONE THAT I PUT ON THE AGENDA JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON, UH, WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM THE LETTER THAT BAKER WROTE AND ALSO FROM THE DA.

UH, AND MANY OF YOU, I'M SURE, AND MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE HEARD SOME OF THESE TYPE OF COMMENTS AS AS WELL.

SO I THINK IN, IN DOING OUR JOB AS THE, AS THE, UH, TRUSTEES OF THE COUNTY AND THE, UH, CERTAIN TRUSTEES OF THE COURTHOUSE, UH, WE, UH, PROBABLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

AND I'M NOT, UH, I DON'T HAVE THIS ON AS AN ACTION ITEM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

AND WHAT I'D LIKE AT A MEETING, UH, PROBABLY A WORKSHOP MEETING HERE PRETTY QUICK.

WE TALKED ABOUT VARIOUS WAYS TO GO ABOUT DOING THIS.

UH, LAST TIME, AND I FORGET HOW MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS WHEN THIS ITEM CAME UP, I KNOW IT WAS PROPOSED, I BELIEVE, TO BE PAID WITH, UH, UH, CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS.

AND THEN THAT, UH, WHICH DID NOT REQUIRE BOTH PEOPLE.

UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY I BELIEVE THERE CIRCULATED, UH, DIDN'T REQUIRE WHAT THE PEOPLE TO APPROVE AND MADE THAT PETITION REQUIRED.

THE COMMISSION WOULD TO, UH, PAY OR TO HOLD AN ELECTION.

AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, UH, IT DID NOT PASS.

BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, UH, AN INFORMED PUBLIC WOULD MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

AND I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE PUBLIC TO, UH, INFORM THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

OBVIOUSLY, THE TRAGEDY THAT WE HAD OCCUR HERE THREE WEEKS AGO, OR NEARLY FOUR WEEKS AGO, YES, MA'AM, UH, BROUGHT THIS TO LIFE.

BUT THOSE OF US THAT WORK IN THE COURTHOUSE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, UH, IS WE SEE THE TRAUMA, WE SEE THE EMOTIONS, UH, WE SEE THE HEARTACHE.

WE SEE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT CAN BECOME VERY EXPLOSIVE AT ANY TIME.

AND, UH, COURTHOUSE ITSELF IS SECURED BY THE METAL DETECTOR AND THE ROUTINE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, BUT THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE DO IS MAYBE DISCUSS THIS VERY QUICKLY AND CALL THE WORKSHOP AND TALK ABOUT THE PLANS, HOW TO MOVE APART, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COURT WISHES TO DO, AND INVOLVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY HAVING US, UH, DISCUSS THIS AND TALK ABOUT THIS.

AND, UH, SEE WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT THERE IS OUT THERE.

NOTHING IS FREE.

AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BAIL SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR, AND GENERALLY THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

YOU KNOW, I CAN IMAGINE THAT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE DOING THIS, BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

ANYBODY ELSE? I WAS SITTING ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE DID DISCUSS THIS THE LAST TIME.

I THINK, UH, WE MAY HAVE TO SET A PLAN SOMEWHERE THAT WE, I AND THE ONE COUNTY, UH, THEY HAVE THE ONE THAT REALLY IS REALLY LOOKING.

I, WELL, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR A COURTS BUILDING.

UH, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT, THAT ALL PEOPLE PARTICIPATE AND, UH, VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AND OPINION ABOUT WHAT WE DO.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE MADE REALLY CLEAR THAT WE WILL NOT DESERVE THIS BUILDING HERE, RIGHT? AND THAT THE NEW USED BUILDING SHOULD BE FOR COURTS AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND, AND WHOEVER ELSE WE DECIDE NEEDS TO BE DOWN THERE NEEDS TO BE IN A SECURE POSITION.

BUT, UH, I THINK THE ECONOMY OF KAUFMAN IS, IS, UH, IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN OUR CITY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'LL AFFECT TO A, TO A LARGE PART ECONOMY, TO, UH, TO MOVE WELL, AND WE WOULD NOT ABANDON THIS COURTHOUSE, OBVIOUSLY.

IT WOULD STILL BE A HUB OF ACTIVITY.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE SCATTERED ALL OVER THE COUNTY IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE RELOCATED BACK DOWNTOWN HERE.

UH, BUT,

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UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THIS PROBABLY BE TO GO INTO THAT BUILDING AND, UH, THEN MOVE, MOVE INTO THE COURTHOUSE.

NOW, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION TO YOU BEFORE I HEAR FROM YOU, UH, YOU GUYS, IS THERE, UH, PAM CARTER AND I MET WITH, UH, PEOPLE, UH, WITH THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION.

YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF THE SECURITY, UH, ON THE FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE THAT WE'VE GOT A THREE YEAR, FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

WE'RE ALREADY BEGINNING YEAR THREE OF THAT EXTENSION.

AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY AWARE OF OUR SITUATION HERE, AND, UH, THEY HAVE PROMISED TO WORK WITH US IN THAT REGARD.

BUT WE DO HAVE THAT, THAT FIVE YEAR PROBLEM COMING UP, IF THE COURTS ARE NOT IN THAT BUILDING, THEN THAT ELIMINATES THE TYPE OF SECURITY THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OR NOT ELIMINATED OUT AT THE NEW BUILDING.

BE DIFFERENT DOWN HERE.

AS PART OF THAT, THERE ARE FUNDS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE, UH, THROUGH THE STATE TO HAVE TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING COURT BUILDING.

WE HAVE TO GET IN LINE FOR THOSE TO, UH, WOULD RESTORE IT TO WHAT IT'S, IT WAS ORIGINALLY, WHICH MEANS A LOT OF THE REMODELING THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THAT BUILDING TO MAKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE TWO ADDITIONAL COURTS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD'VE TO COME OUT PROBABLY.

UH, BUT THE STATE WILL, AS MANY OTHER COURTHOUSE HAVE DONE, THEY, THEY DO HAVE THE COURTHOUSE RESTORATION PROGRAM.

BUT WE HAVE TO GET IN LINE FOR THAT.

WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT.

WE HAVE, WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT.

AND EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL TALK ABOUT OUR LIVES AND DISLIKES, STUFF THAT EXISTS, COURTHOUSE, IT IS, IT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT IS A 50 MODEL BUILDING.

YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SEE SCHOOLS AND OTHER BUILDINGS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS THAT WERE, UH, BUT IT CAN BE RENOVATED.

WE PROBABLY HAVE ASBESTOS PROBLEM.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT HEATING PROBLEMS AND ALL THAT.

ALL OF THAT CAN BE RENOVATED WITH SOME HELP FROM THE STATE AS WELL.

SO MAYBE WE CAN TIE ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER.

THE IDEA OF VESTI GOING, THAT'S SOMETHING WE STILL GOT FACE, AND SO WE GOTTA, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ON THAT.

BUT THE VERBAL, UH, CALL THAT WE HAD WITH THEM, I CASE THEY CERTAINLY WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH US.

SO I THINK THAT, THAT SPEAK WELL.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MANNING.

ONLY THING ADD TO THAT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO A BOND.

LET THE CITIZENS DECIDE.

YEAH, I AGREE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING BEFORE WE GOT THIS TRANSPORTATION PROBLEM GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

RIGHT? AND THEN ONE OTHER THING, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL, YOU KNOW, ABOUT SPLITTING UP THE, THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

THAT'S COUNTY AND DISTRICT, WELL DISTRICT OR AT LEAST THE SATELLITE OFFICE OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE NEED.

GET THEIR INPUT ON WORKSHOP.

MAY SAID AT ONE O'CLOCK WE SAID TWO OR THREE DO SOMETHING.

OKAY, I AGREE THAT, UH, WE NEED TO PURSUE IT.

UH, I THINK FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO, I WAS ONLY TWO NOTES ON THIS COURT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE COST OF YOUR COURTHOUSE WOULD BE.

TURN DOWN, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.

GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE LEFT HERE, THERE'S A RALLY ACROSS THE STREET OVER COURTHOUSE.

AND I WAS CHASTISED SEVERELY FOR VOTING PUBLIC NEW COURTHOUSE.

THE MOTION WAS WE TO PASS AT THAT TIME'S GONNA COST US TO DO THAT.

SO WE GO FORWARD AND TALK TO THE VOTERS ABOUT AN EDUCATOR.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 10 MILLION? 20 MILLION MILLION? WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW AT THE TIME WE'RE PURSUING THAT REASON RIGHT NOW, WHAT THIS KIND, GIVE US SOME, GIVE ME SOME GUIDELINES WITH WHERE WE NEED TO GO ON THE FACILITIES AND THAT, THAT AT WORKSHOP ONE THING, SECURITY IS ONE THING.

SAY WHAT'S I CERTAIN ON THE JURY OVER THERE? PERFECTLY.

I SERVED ON THE JURY OVER THERE.

TWO DAYS IN THE JURY, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET TOLD WE GOTTA GO HOME BECAUSE A WITNESS IN THE HALLWAY OVERHEARD ANOTHER WITNESS IN THE HALLWAY SAY SOMETHING

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INCRIMINATING ABOUT THE THING.

AND SO THE JUDGE HAD TO THROW THE WHOLE THING IN, HAD START ALL OVER THAT WANTED THE COPS TO CALL ALL THOSE JURORS IN TO GET THAT DONE, TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE MOTIONS FOR NOT ZERO TO START ALL OVER THAT.

THAT'S PRETTY, I SAY PROBABLY WHAT INTENTIONALLY DOES, BUT ONE, ONCE SOMEBODY OVERHEARD, SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING AND, ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER.

WE WON'T, AGAIN, WE'LL WORK THAT INTO A WORKSHOP HERE.

A MOTION TO JUST DISCUSS IT.

UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS SHERIFF BURNS TO PRESENT AND ACCEPT, UH, THE RACIAL PROFILE IN THE COURT FOR TON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE FILE.

WE ALSO NOW HAVE TO THIS, UH, THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, COMPLAINTS PROFIL IN THE LAST YEAR.

OKAY, QUESTION.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROFILING REPORT MOTION WE HAVE.

SECOND.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO HEAR FROM OUR RESOURCES DIRECTOR, UH, TO TALK ABOUT CHANGES THROUGH PERSONNEL POLICY.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT EMAILED.

UM, I'VE KIND OF JUST BEEN LOOKING OVER MANUAL SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND OBSERVING AND TALKING EVERYBODY.

UM, I'VE TALKED WITH T I'VE GOTTEN A GUIDE FROM TAC I'VE ALSO RESEARCHED OTHER COUNTIES AND ANNUAL AND KIND OF JUST KIND OF PUT ONE TOGETHER WITH ALL THAT AND ALL THAT MAIN THING THAT I DID IS JUST KIND OF REFORMATTED IT TO MAKE IT EASIER TO READ BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS HARD TO FIND ANYTHING.

UM, KIND OF CHANGED A LOT OF THE DUPLICATE DUPLICATING POLICIES.

AND THEN I OUTLINED, UM, A LOT OF THE POLICIES THAT I'VE CHANGED.

I'D HAPPY TO GO OVER ALL THAT IF Y'ALL WANNA DISCUSS ALL THAT OR WHAT, WHAT MUCH, MUCH OF WHAT'S DONE IS GOING BACK AND LOOK AT THE OLD MANUAL THAT WE HAD.

AND WE ALSO TRIED TO INCORPORATE AS MUCH SUGGEST TO THAT.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS ON HERE THAT ARE SOME AND I WE ALL WANTED MIGHT BE SOMETHING.

DISCUSS IN THE WORKSHOP, MOVE FORWARD, GIVE ALL OF YOU A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THESE THINGS AND THEN COME BACK A LATER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT ON THIS TASK.

WASN'T EASY.

I SAID DUPLICATION AND CONTRADICTION IN THERE TO MAKE IT SIMPLER.

NOT AN EASY TASK.

THERE WERE SO MANY CHANGES IN THIS THING.

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET THE FULL WRITTEN COPY OF IT AS FAR, JUST THESE CHANGES TO GO THROUGH THERE AND LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT.

SO I THINK IF YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO RESEARCH THAT AND THEN COME BACK AND HAVE THE WORKSHOP I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IN THE WORKSHOP, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL, ANYBODY MYSELF, ITEMS THROUGH AND SEE WHAT WHAT WE THINKS, OKAY OR NOT.

I'M AGREEMENT.

THIS IS JUST AN IDEA OF GET IT OUT ON THE TABLE SO WE START LOOKING AT IT AND ITS SOMETHING WE NEED TO, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT WILL AFFECT PEOPLE.

SO WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE WORKSHOP.

WE MAY BE DOWN HERE FOR LUNCH AND DINNER NECESSARY.

YOU HAVE EXTRA UHHUH.

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ALL RIGHT.

UH, NUMBER SIX, KATHY MORRIS TO GIVE US AN UPDATE, UH, ON THE PUBLIC COURT.

JANUARY.

JANUARY, GET SOME INFORMATION FROM TODD, BUT WE DIDN'T, UM, SAID HAD 10 FROM THE COUNTY FOR THE MONTH AND BY PRECINCT, BROKEN PRECINCT.

ONE HAD THREE PRECINCT TWO HAD TWO PRECINCT, FOUR PRECINCT HAD 72 COMPLAINTS TOTAL THAT WE INVESTIGATED WERE 53 ON ONSITE VISITS FOR THE COMPLAINTS FOLLOW UPS.

AND WE ACTUALLY FILED A 21 CASES.

HER NEW ADDRESS IS PRECINCT ONE NINE, PRECINCT TWO AND FOUR H 1431.

UH, JUST UPDATE.

THE NEW PERSON THAT HAS THIS AREA NOW IS, UH, MET THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND HE'S GONNA START DELIVERING OUR REPORTS AGAIN BY THE FIFTH OF THE MONTH.

HE .

WE'LL SEE IF THAT HAPPENS, BUT, UH, WE'RE STILL AROUND TRACK.

HE RAN A REPORT LAST WEEK, LATE, LATE LAST WEEK.

HE RUNS HIS REPORTS DIFFERENTLY THAN THE OTHER GUY DID.

SO WE HAD TO GO BACK IN AND REVERIFY EVERYTHING.

BUT WE SHOULD STILL BE THE SAME AS WE WERE, IF NOT BETTER.

AND I THINK KEMP ACTUALLY IMPROVED IN THE NUMBERS BECAUSE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

I DID ASK THEM.

BEEN A YEAR WE'VE GOTTEN IMPROVEMENT ON THE CITY OF KEMP AND JUST THE GLANCES, WHAT THAT CITY COMMENT IS THAT, I'M TRYING TO IGNORE THAT .

NO, ACTUALLY THERE ARE, MISS DAN, MISS HAS BEEN WORKING RICK, UH, RICK MESSMAN FIRE CHIEF AND HE'S BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY ON THE DALLAS COUNTY SIDE, BUT WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, BECAUSE THEY'RE CITY, CITY RESPONSE IN THE DALLAS COUNTY SIDE.

HE'S, HE GOES BACK AND FORTH AND SHE'S GOT A QUESTION.

HE GOES OUT AND THIS RESEARCH AND VERIFIES WHAT THE ADDRESSES ARE.

SO THAT SHOULD BE QUITE A BIT, QUITE A BIT BETTER.

SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT.

UHHUH YES.

WOULD BE ANY HELP OR, UH, ON THE COMPLAINTS IF THEY WERE, UH, RANKED 40, NOT RANKED BUT LISTED AS ACCORDING TO PRECINCT MAYBE.

SO IT MAY BE, IS THAT THAT BE A HUGE PROBLEM TO DO? UM, I'M THINKING IT MAYBE IF WE HAVE A CERTAIN AREA THAT HAS MORE PROBLEMS IN OTHER AREAS, MAYBE WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE SOME EDUCATION IN THAT AREA.

I THINK, I THINK I CAN DO IT.

OUR SOFTWARE HAS THE ABILITY TO PUT IN PRECINCT LETTER IN, I THINK BY THE ADDRESS.

THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THAT IS WHEN WE DID REDISTRICTING, I HAVEN'T HAD A TO GO BACK IN AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS PRECINCT, BUT I DO THAT WE WE'RE STILL, IT'S JUST ME, RIGHT? ME, I'LL, I'LL GIVE A WORLD, SEE IF I CAN DO IT FOR YOU NEXT MONTH.

I JUST, NOT A BIG THING, BUT I THOUGHT IF THERE IS A CERTAIN AREA, THAT'S WHO WE NEED TO MAYBE EDUCATE PEOPLE SOMEHOW.

SOMEHOW.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PUBLIC? SO MAY MR. MAN MAY SET MOTION A SECOND DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY NEXT IS MARILYN MAY.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO PRESENT RECYCLING COLLECTION DATA.

12.

I DO INCLUDED IN THAT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

UM, I'LL LET EVERYBODY COME FIRST.

OKAY.

THE COING COUNTY RECYCLING PLANT HAS JUST EXPLODED.

I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.

WE'RE JUST CONSTANTLY TRYING TO KEEP UP.

UM, WE, THE REPORTS THAT I'M GONNA SHOW TODAY DO NOT HAVE THE COTON COUNTY COLLECTION, UH, SITE OVER HERE OFF OF ALTON.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE COUNTY BELT STATION MEMBERS.

THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER AT OUR PLANT.

BUT

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THE REASON FOR A LOT OF THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL THOSE NUMBERS IS WE'RE DOING THIS EXTREMELY MANUALLY.

UM, EVERYTHING'S GOING INTO A HEALTH SPREADSHEET.

SO WE HAVE FOUND SOME SOFTWARE THAT IS, UM, ANOTHER COMPANY, BUT YOU CAN GET IT OFF THE WEB AND, AND KIND OF INTERACT BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT COMPANY.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR OWN SOFTWARE.

WE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CAPTURE ALL THESE NUMBERS WITH.

UM, I THINK GOING FORWARD NOW IN 2013, IF WE COULD GET, UM, KEMP'S ASSOCIATION NUMBERS AND THEN I'LL WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET THE NUMBERS OF THE ALTON, UM, LOCATION.

THEN WE, WE SHOULD BE CAPTURING ALMOST EVERYTHING.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING.

BUT, UM, JUST TO START OUT WITH, IN 2008 WHEN WE STARTED THE PLANT, WE RECYCLED 102 TONS OF RECYCLABLES LAST YEAR, FOUR YEARS LATER, UH, WE RECYCLED 904 TONS.

AND IT IS JUST A REMARKABLE TURNAROUND AND SO QUICKLY THAT WE HAD SUCH A HARD TIME KEEPING UP WITH IT.

UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS EXTREMELY MANUAL.

EVERYBODY THAT WORKS THERE TOUCHES THAT MATERIAL MANY TIMES.

THERE IS NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONVEYOR BELTS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, EVERYTHING IS PICKED UP IN A, A TRAILER AND THEN HAS PUT INTO THE TRAILER AND THEN IT HAS TO BE TAKEN AND THEN TAKEN OUTTA THE TRAILER AND THEN BAILED.

SO, UH, AND THEN WE TOUCH IT AGAIN, TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S VERY, VERY TIME CONSUMING.

IT'S WORKING, BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN TO LOOK AT THE PLANT TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT PROCESS BETTER.

UM, SO JUST THAT JUST KIND OF, UM, GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A FIELD.

WHAT WE DID FOR THE COFFMAN COUNTY GOVERNMENT OFFICES, WE PICKED UP 25,000, UH, 890 POUNDS.

AND, UM, THAT CONTAINER OUTSIDE OF PRECINCT TWO, THAT IS ONE CONTAINER.

UM, FOR THE YEAR WE HAD 95 5 AND IT USED A LOT SMALL, IT'S NOT EVEN A 30 CUBIC.

UM, THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING PAGES, WE, THIS IS THE NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE USING AND IT LETS US CHART HOW WE'RE DOING AND THE MATERIALS BECAUSE WE BREAK DOWN EVERYTHING.

I HAVE GIRLS IN THE OFFICE THAT SIT AND THE GUYS HAVE TO TELL US HOW MANY PLASTICS, HOW MUCH PART, HOW MUCH PAPER IS GETTING PICKED UP AT EVERY LOCATION.

AND THEN WE INPUT THAT AND THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO ALLOW US NOT TO HAVE TO SIT THERE AND TAKE EACH NUMBER AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW.

SO THIS GAVE US THE NUMBERS.

UM, THE SECOND CHART IS THE MATERIALS FOR THE YEAR.

AND THEN LEMME LOOK THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST ONE IS JANUARY AND WE'VE ALREADY, IN JANUARY WE PROCESSED 119,078.

SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF MATERIAL THAT'S BEING RECYCLED AND IT'S ALL BEING RECYCLED.

IT'S GOING OUT TO A, UM, THE FOURTH SHEET I BELIEVE IT IS, HAS EVERY, UM, BUSINESS THAT WE ARE PICKING UP AT.

AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE CASE THAT IS ALL OF COUNTY, UM, FACILITIES AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER IS, IS DOWN THERE.

SO THAT GET THOSE NUMBERS WE'RE DOING, UM, WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO, TO GET EVERYBODY TO RECYCLE.

WE CAN'T MAKE THAT MANDATORY, I GUESS YOU WOULD'VE TO DO THAT.

BUT WE DO PICK UP WHEREVER ANYBODY IS WILLING TO RECYCLE.

AND THEN ON THE LAST SHEET THAT IS, UM, JUST A LIST OF A, A CURRENT LIST OF THE TOTAL GRANT FUNDS THAT WE BROUGHT INTO THE, AND THAT'S 1996 SERVICES ENDEAVOR.

I ALSO PUT DOWN ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE, THE NOT LEGAL DUMPING GRANT REPORT.

SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE,

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WE'RE NOT FINISHED WITH THAT YET.

IT DOESN'T FINISH UNTIL JUNE 28TH, BUT WE ARE ALMOST COMPLETED ON THE, WE UM, HAVE HAD A LARGE AMOUNT OUTTA ECO STATION PRECINCT FLOOR.

PROBABLY BEEN THE MOST AS FAR AS TIRES, BUT WE HAVE ONE MORE.

UM, I BELIEVE, LEMME THINK WHAT SHE SAID.

WE HAVE ONE MORE HERE IN KAUFMAN.

DO YOU STILL HAVE ONE? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, SO THERE'S TWO THAT JUST HAVE TO FINISH FILLING UP AND THEN WE ARE, WE'LL BE OVER BY FOUR.

WE'LL COMPENSATE WITH THAT WITH SOMETHING.

WE'LL TAKE IT OUTTA SOME OTHER AREA IN THAT BRANCH.

THAT'S NOT A FIGURE THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE.

UM, WE STILL HAVE THE CAMERAS THAT WE BUDGETED FOR THAT WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE.

AND UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT ELSE.

I THINK CAMERAS, WERE REALLY ABOUT THE LAST THING, WHAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT WE HAD PUT IN THAT GRANT THAT WE WERE GOING TO WORK ON THE ADOPT THE COUNTY ROADS PROGRAM.

AND IF ANY OF YOU WERE HERE, PROBABLY, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE WAS HERE WHEN WE ADOPTED THIS OR THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

IT WAS QUITE A WHILE AGO.

I KIND OF KEPT UP WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITIZENS HAD, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S BETWEEN THE CITIZENS AND THE COMMISSIONERS IN THEIR PRECINCT.

THE CITIZENS SIGN A STATEMENT SAYING THEY'RE GONNA CLEAN UP AN AREA OF THEIR ROAD ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.

IT'S BASICALLY LIKE ADOPTED COUNTY, ADOPTED STATE ROAD.

THE HIGHWAY ROAD.

I JUST TOOK IT AND DEVELOPED IT FOR COUNTY ROAD AND UM, THE COUNTY WOULD SIGN THEM WITH BAGS.

THEY WOULD DO ALL OF THE WORK TO KEEP THAT AREA CLEAN.

AND THEN, UM, THEY CALL THE PRECINCT BARN AND WITHIN, I THINK IT WAS 48 HOURS, TWO DAYS, THEN YOU WOULD SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO PICK UP THAT TRASH.

WHAT I FOUND OUT YEARS AND YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED THIS WAS THAT PEOPLE WOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ROADWAY AND THEN IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TRASH SERVICE OUT IN THE COUNTRY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY STATION TO ACTUALLY TAKE THAT TRASH, WHICH WAS TRASH.

THAT, I MEAN, IF YOU ARE ON THE ROAD THAT GOES TO THE CONVENIENCE STATION IN TERRELL, UM, THEY PICK UP ALL OF THAT TRASH, BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY TO TAKE IT OVER TO THE CONVENIENCE STATION.

AND IT'S ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO THE CONVENIENCE STATION IS BLOWING OUTTA THEIR TRUCKS.

SO THAT WAS, UM, AN ISSUE THAT I THOUGHT WE COULD DO BETTER.

AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, WITH COSTS BEING WHAT THEY ARE, THIS WOULD SAVE YOU AS COMMISSIONERS CLEANING UP THE ROADS A LOT OF MONEY IF WE REALLY PUT A BIG PUSH ON THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR BAGS AND THAT'S IT.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I WANT TO GIVE IT BACK TO YOU.

WE CAN REAL, WE CAN REALLY REDO IT, LOOK IT OVER.

UM, LIKE I SAID, I HAD COMMISSIONERS THAT HAD SIGNED, UM, HAVE, BUT WE HAVEN'T THIS FOR SIX.

UM, REDO AND TALK ABOUT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, UM, WE HAVE REDONE OUR SCHEDULING FOR PICKING UP, UM, AT THE BUSINESSES.

EVERYBODY HAS GOTTEN A LETTER, BUT IF YOU NEED A SCHEDULE OF WHEN YOU'RE GONNA BE PICKED UP, UM, I HAVE THAT HERE AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT ALSO.

WE WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO MAKE THIS AS ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE AS POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE.

AND UM, IT'S GREAT APPROACH.

I'M TELLING YOU, OUR BUSINESSES LOVE IT AND THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP US IN ANY WAY THEY CAN, BUT IT'S GETTING MORE, MORE DIFFICULT.

ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IMPRESSIVE? THE THINK IMPRESSIVE ABOUT THE REPORT? THAT I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE NUMBER OF LOCAL BUSINESSES.

IT'S AND GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES ARE PARTICIPATING THAT HUGE, IT WOULD BE MORE, BUT FOR US, THIS IS 10 MILES OUT FROM WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO GO.

FORNEY, UM, HAS KIND OF

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CWD IS OVER THERE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

IESI IS VERY OPEN TO HELPING US AND THEY FEEL REAL, UM, REAL GOOD ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THEY'VE NEVER EVER GIVEN US ANY PROBLEM ABOUT TAKING THE TRASH AWAY FROM THEM.

I MEAN, AND UM, SO, BUT TO GO MUCH FURTHER AND WE GO TO CREAMER, WE GO PICK UP AT THE ANIMAL, UM, HOSPITAL THING AND WE GO TO THE WETLANDS AND UM, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE OVER THERE THAT WE DO, BUT IT'S MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GO THOSE LONG DISTANCES.

PAYING SOMEBODY AND PAYING THE GAS IF GAS IS, IS HARD.

SO WE ARE RIGHT NOW REALLY, WE CONCENTRATE ON KAUFMAN AND ANY BUSINESS THAT WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH US IN KAUFMAN, I WANT KNOW ABOUT IT.

IF YOU HEAR ABOUT SOMETHING, ANYBODY IN, UM, TERRELL, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A LOT MATERIAL BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN, UM, CRANDLE WE COULD ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND THEN, UM, CORN, YOU KNOW, I'M OPEN TO THAT AND WE WORK WITH THE, THE, UM, CHARITY, THE COMAN COUNTY CHARITY STORE, AND I WORK WITH THEM A LOT TO GET SOME OF THEIR MATERIALS AND THEY, WE HELP EACH OTHER.

SO I JUST LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND THE GRANT TO GET RID OF THE TIRE.

I'M TELLING YOU, WE UH, WE REALLY GOT A PROBLEM OR HAD A PROBLEM OR STILL GOT IT IN PRECINCT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAULED OFF.

WE HAD PEOPLE COMING IN THERE EVERY DAY FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS.

AND, UH, I JUST LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

WELL, WE, WE'LL BE THROUGH THAT TRAILER PROBABLY ABOUT, OH, MAYBE ANOTHER WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S A 57 FOOTER IS WHAT THEY BROUGHT.

SO ANYWAY, YOU MIGHT, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAD SOMEBODY DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD AND THROW OUT TIRES.

THEY WERE A HUNDRED, THEY WERE A HUNDRED FEET FOR TWO OR THREE MILES.

SO, UH, IT MUST HAVE BEEN, MUST HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE.

AND, UH, I'M SURE THE APPRECIATED BECAUSE I HAD LOTS OF CALLS, YOU KNOW, THEY'D LIKE FOR IT TO KEEP GOING, BUT, UH, UH, I'M SURE THERE'S NOT THE MONEY TO DO THAT, BUT NOT, NOT AT THE MOMENT.

AND I DUNNO THAT WE COULD ASK FOR IT AGAIN RIGHT AWAY.

WE DID THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

WELL, AND I ATION WITH COMMISSIONER, I THINK TOLD HIS, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSA ALONG, WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE, NOT A NO OF, AND, AND WE'RE HAVING CALLS FROM CITIZENS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KIND OF GETTING ON THE TAIL END OF IT AND WE'RE GONNA BE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE.

SO THEY'RE GONNA END UP NOT BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH US.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, IT'S BEEN A GOOD PROGRAM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A GOOD PARTICIPATION ON THE BACK.

WE GO OUT THERE, WE, THE, THE, AND WE HAVE THE SCHOOLS THAT WANT WORK WITH US.

UM, BY THE WAY, JUST SO THAT WE DO, WE PUT IN FOR A GRANT FOR THE ID.

WE HAVE SCURRY ROSTER, WE FIX THEM.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL RECYCLING.

THEIR WHOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT RECYCLED AND WE GOT THEM TRAILERS, SO THEY BRING OUR, THEIR MATERIAL TO US NOW.

SO WE DON'T REALLY EVEN, UH, HAVE TO DO MUCH WITH THAT.

IT'S AN AUTOMATIC PILOT.

TER ISD.

WE WE'RE RIGHT UNDER THE, THE JUDGING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT GRANT BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

BUT TWO PEOPLE THAT RECEIVED GRANTS DIDN'T USE THE MONEY, WHICH ALWAYS IS MIND BLOWING.

BUT WE WERE TOLD ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO THAT WE HAD THE MONEY TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE TERROR ISD SO WE'LL BE PAYING CONTAINERS AND REALLY WORKING CRAZILY TO GET THAT DONE BY JUNE THE 28TH.

SO NEXT YEAR SD WILL BE ON A RECYCLING PROGRAM, ALL THEIR SCHOOLS.

AND THEN, UM, I JUST HOPE TO KEEP GOING SCHOOL.

WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT'LL

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WORK.

OKAY, THANK MUCH.

I HAVE A MOTION APPROVE THE BUSINESS RECYCLING COLLECTION DATA THOUSAND 12.

MR. SHANE MAY SET MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. ROSA, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

UM, THE CA, MARYLAND ON THE COUNTY ROAD ADOPT ROAD PROGRAM.

YES.

NOW THE WAIT, THE WAIT TO, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE CHARGED FOR THAT IS LETTING THE PRECINCT PICK IT UP, THE PRECINCT, PICK UP THE TRASH AND THE THAT AS THAT.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THAT SAYS IN THERE, THAT YOU WOULD PICK IT UP TWO DAYS AFTER THE CITIZEN CALLS THE PRECINCT.

I OVER THERE PRECINCT TOO WOULD BE VERY MUCH AGREEABLE TO DO THAT AT ANY READ THROUGH THAT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD NEED THE WORKSHOP JUST TO, YOU KNOW, SAY WHAT, WHATEVER EVERYBODY THINKS THAT'S SEVERAL YEARS OLD.

I MEAN, I REALLY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT A LOT.

BUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS GET THAT IN PLACE AGAIN BEFORE JUNE 28TH.

SO THAT, THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT'S ONGOING AND EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEANCE WITH IT.

AND THEN, UM, THE CONTRACTS, WHAT, WHAT I USED TO DO WAS I HANDLED THOSE AND THEN, UH, GOT THE CITIZEN TO SIGN IT AND THEN WENT TO THE COMMISSIONER AND HAD THEM SIGN IT.

SO IT WAS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE IN CAMP THAT ARE STILL CLEANING UP THEIR ROADS.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO DO THE, THE, UM, TRASH THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT'S QUITE MINIMAL NOW.

AT FIRST IT WOULD BE A LOT.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAD SIGNS THAT WE PUT UP AND IT SAID COUNTY ROAD, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM.

UM, I THINK THAT THE ALUMINUM WAS A, AND I HAD SOME, SO, UM, BUT I, I MIGHT HAVE THREE OR FOUR LEFT.

SO ANYWAY, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.

I THINK THAT IT'S WORTHY OF YOU LOOKING AT IT.

AND THEN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS LATER OR YOU KNOW, WORK WITH US, I HOW TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

AND EIGHT, ADDRESS SOME ISSUES.

UH, ITEM EIGHT WAS JOHNNY TREASURER PRESENT THE TREASURER MONTHLY REPORT FOR NOVEMBER THOUSAND 12, JANUARY OF NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

UH, ONE COMMENT THAT, UH, CAUSE OF PHYSICAL CLIFF QUESTION OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY, DECEMBER, UH, OUR DECEMBER RECEIPTS WERE UP FOUR OR FIVE VACANT BOARD THAN HAD BEEN RUNNING THE, UH, FACT THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF FISCAL YEAR THAT OUR RECEIVED WERE OVER MILLION FOR YEAR FIVE.

ALSO SITUATION TO GET BILLS PAID.

I'LL ASK QUESTIONS.

I, YOU'LL SEE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN TED.

WE MONEY.

IT'S A SHORT TERM CD.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ACCEPT FOR NOVEMBER 12? DECEMBER 12.

CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION.

THE TREASURER REPORT OR, UH, INVESTMENT REPORT ENDING DECEMBER POCKET.

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YEAH, HERE IT'S THE SECOND.

ON THE SECOND PAGE.

COPY.

EXCUSE ME.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION SAY.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 ALSO FROM JOHNNY THAT WE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED ACQUISITION OF PAYROLL, TIME KEEPING SOFTWARE, WORKLOAD PROBLEM.

I JUDGE OFF CENTER, WE MAKE A DECISION THIS OR I NEED TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO LAST MEETING GEORGE.

COMING UP JUDGE GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE UH, WITH US, UH, WHEN HE WAS ON THE DEMO WE HAVE BEFORE HE'S BEEN IN THE COUNTY SEVERAL TIMES.

HE DEMOED PERSONALLY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

HE DEMOED THE COMMISSIONER.

NOW COMMISSIONER CLARK HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THIS THING FROM THE BEGINNING.

HE'S BEEN IN THE MEETING.

COMMISSIONER MANNING.

UM, BRIEFLY THE HISTORY IS WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE.

WE CONVERTED ALL THE DATA.

WE'RE LIVE IN EVERY MODULE EXCEPT PAYROLL.

WE CONTINUE TO PUSH THE DATA FROM OUR OWN LEGACY PRODUCT AFTER JOURNAL ENTRANCE BANK INTO THE NEW PRODUCT.

AS WE WAIT AND MAKE A DECISION ON PAYROLL, WE CAN DO NOTHING.

WE GO BACK TO THE WAY WE WORK AND HAVE UH, DEBBIE CONTINUE TO BRING WORK HOME AT NIGHT AND SPEND A WEEK OF PAYROLL WHERE WE CAN AUTOMATE.

WE'VE, UH, MADE, WE'VE GONE IN THIS DIRECTION BECAUSE WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL VENDORS AND MANY OF 'EM COST TWO OR THREE TIMES AS MUCH.

AND THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR WE KIND OF FAVORED BECAUSE THE FOLKS AT SCW, OUR NEW VENDOR, UM, HAVE ALREADY WORKED WITH THEM.

THEY HAVE AN INTERFACE TO THEIR PRODUCT.

AND BOTTOM LINE, IT'S JUST ONE OF MANY, BUT IT'S ONE THAT WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

UM, WE'VE TALKED THE MONEY, THE MONEY SIDE.

WE'VE SET OUT EMAILS SHOWING THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR CLOCKS AS WE MEET, AS WE MET WITH A LOT OF THE FOLKS DURING THE LAST WEEK OR SO.

UM, I THINK WE MET WITH COMMISSIONER MANNING DOWN IN HIS AREA AND WE THINK WE, WE RESOLVED THE ISSUE OF HAVING THE TIME CLOCKS IN A DIRTY INDUSTRIAL ENVIRONMENT.

AND QUITE SIMPLY, WE WOULD TAKE A TIME CLOCK THAT USES A PROXIMITY CARD, WHICH, OR THESE, AND INSTEAD OF HAVING THE EMPLOYEE KEEP UP WITH A CARD AND GET TO BRING IT TO WORK OR LEAVE IT IN THE TRUCK, WE'LL JUST HAVE 'EM ON BOARD.

OKAY? SO WE JUST LIKE A CONVENTIONAL TIME CLOCK, THEY WALK IN IN THE MORNING, TAKE THE CARD OFF, WIPE IT, PUT IT BACK, AND THEY CLOCK IT IN AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY CAN CLOCK OUT.

SO THAT'S ONE TALK I LIKE, TALK WITH THE AUDITOR LAST WEEK.

AS FAR AS THE FINANCE SIDE, WE THOUGHT MAYBE THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD ENTERTAIN THE IDEA, THE GENEROUS FUNDS THEY HAVE IN THEIR ROAD BRIDGE ACCOUNT.

MAYBE ENOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, OFFSET THE EXPENSE OF THOSE UNITS, UH, IN THE, IN THE COUNTY BARS.

BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE QUOTE BECAUSE IT IS A MOVING TARGET.

SOME PEOPLE WANT TO JUST NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE.

WE DO KNOW BASED ON THE FIGURES THAT WE WOULD BE LITTLE.

SO OVER 30, CERTAINLY UNDER 50.

SO AT THIS POINT, UM, CHAD IS HERE.

IF WE CAN GIVE YOU ANY MORE INFORMATION, I THINK WE'D MORE THAN UH, TO TALK ABOUT IT.

WHAT ARE THE UNRESOLVED ISSUES THAT WE'VE GOT? WELL, UM, WHILE MOST OF THE FOLKS WE'VE TALKED TO, INCLUDING THE TAX OFFICE, YOU KNOW, ARE VERY OPEN TO THE IDEA OF HAVING GOOD QUALITY REPORTS FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO REVIEW AND TO LOOK AT AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE FORECAST ACCURATELY WHAT THEIR BUDGET NEED WILL BE FOR PAYROLL.

AND MAYBE AS IT COMES TIME TO MAYBE, UM, YOUR ANNUAL REVIEW, THEY'LL HAVE GOOD INFORMATION TO DO AN ANNUAL REVIEW.

WHAT'S NOT CERTAIN IS WHAT DEVICE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN AN AREA, IN AN OFFICE WHERE WE HAVE LIKE THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, WE MAY NOT NEED A VISIBLE TIME CLOCK THERE.

WE COULD SIMPLY PUT UP A COMPUTER AND HAVE THAT PERSON KEY IN THEIR EMPLOYEE NUMBER AND HIT A THUMBPRINT.

THAT WOULDN'T COST BLOOD.

THAT WOULDN'T COST BECAUSE WE'VE TO USE A THUMBPRINT.

BUT THE OPTION IS THOSE SMALLER DEPARTMENTS OR THOSE THAT UM, CAN'T DO A TIME TALK, I PREFER

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NOT TO.

WE CAN USE AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO HARDWARE COSTS WHICH ELIMINATE, I MEAN MANY OF TIME SLOT INCLUDED MOST THE OFFICES, COURTHOUSE, COURTHOUSE OFFICES AND OFFICES.

SOME OF THE SUB, YEAH, WE TALKED, WE TALKED WITH UH, THE EXTENSION OFFICE.

A LOT OF THE FOLKS ARE MOBILE, YOU KNOW, AT TIMECLOCK WOULDN'T GO GO GOOD.

SO AT THIS POINT THAT'S THE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE, SO WE COULDN'T DO AWAY WITH THE TIME CLOCK DAMAGE OUR SHOP, JUST USE THE COMPUTER THERE AND PUNCH IT IN ON PEOPLE.

WELL I THINK, I THINK THE PROBLEM THERE IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA NOW IN SUB COURTHOUSE IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BUT, BUT IT HAS TO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUNCH IN A NUMBER ON THE COMPUTER THAT'S EXISTING, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A THUMBPRINT TO GO WITH IT.

YOU CAN ONLY KEY IN A NUMBER.

SO WHY CAN'T WE GET AWAY WITH THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BUY THE MACHINE? YEAH, AND THIS IS WHY I WAS MOVING TARGET BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH.

THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDED THE HARDWARE, YOU KNOW, IMAGES OF THE HARDWARE AND LITTLE BIT THE DESCRIPTION.

BUT I THINK THE SENSE ON THE TIME CLOCK IS MORE A VALIDATION PROCESS.

SO IF WE KEY OUR EMPLOYEE NUMBER IN AND WE USE THE TYPE OF TIME CLOCK AND ACCEPT THE THUMBPRINT, THEN YOU VALIDATE THE EMPLOYEE NUMBER WITH THE THUMBPRINTS.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S JUST PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

IT'S THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD WHAT THEY FEEL WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR OFFICE.

AND ALL THIS INFORMATION'S GONNA BE FED STRAIGHT TO DON'S OFFICE.

SHE SIT THERE AND READ CARD TODAY AND IT GIVES YOU INFORMATION, GIVES YOU A GOOD, GOOD VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR, THAT'S PROBLEM.

ONCE YOU'RE LIVE YOU SHOULD HAVE, THERE'S ELECTRONIC FILES SPIT OUT, PUTS IT IN THE FILE FORMAT, PICKS UP ON THERE, ALL THE WORK.

SO TAKES, OKAY SO THE ROAD BRIDGE DEPARTMENTS DECIDED TO UH, UH, PAY FOR THE TIMECLOCK AS YOU SO ELOQUENT PUT IT OUT, OUR GENEROUS BUDGETS.

HE WAS, HE WAS TRYING NOT EVERYBODY.

IF WE HAD THAT, WE HAD LINE EQUIPMENT THAT LINE, OKAY, I'M GOOD.

WHY THERE STILL HAVE A TOTAL, TOTAL FIGURE ON THE POLICY TALKING ABOUT 30TH.

'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE DECISION FROM EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD.

WE JUST VIEWED HERE THAT THERE'S STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY.

SO WE CAN BEGIN, GET A BASELINE, YOU KNOW, STARTING POINT AGREE THAT MAYBE THE ROAD BRIDGE YOUR STAFF, I THINK YOUR EMAIL OR VICKY'S EMAIL SAID, WELL WE COULD DO EITHER OR.

WELL THAT'S EITHER OR.

ITS NOT I WANT THIS OR THAT.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO WELL I BET I'LL PUT IT DOWN TO THIS.

IS THAT THE ONE WITH A THUMBPRINT OR IS THAT, IS THAT THE PROXIMATE APP MODEL IS WHAT THEY CALL IT.

SO IF EVERY ROAD AND BRIDGE OFFICE ALL FOUR USE A PROXIMITY CARD TO CLOCK IN WITH THAT ON THE BOARD.

THEY ARE 22 AT PIECE.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO WELL IF YOU HAVE HIGH JUST, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE WANT.

BUT YOU WANT THEM TO USE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT DO THUMBS.

OUR THUMBS WOULD BE VERY DIRTY AT TIMES.

YOU WOULD LOOK LIKE A CIGAR SL.

OKAY, SO IT'LL JUST STRICTLY BE EITHER A CARD OR A NUMBER.

CORRECT.

JUST SWIPE THE CARD AND PUNCH IN.

NO, IT EITHER YOUR CLOCK WOULD EITHER BE THIS DEVICE OR THIS CAR.

SO SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, UP FRONT IS YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE CARRY HIV PROXIMITY CARDS.

UM, FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T USING IT, THEY WOULD WANT TO STICK TO THEN THE IS GONNA BE SOME COSTS ON BUYING HIV CARDS FROM ROUGHLY A THOUSAND PRECINCT ONLINE REALTIME DEVICE PUSHING.

UM, SO I IN TODAY

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SCHEDULE, SO WHAT ABOUT FOR THE COURTHOUSE, LIKE SUB COURTHOUSES? IN OTHER WORDS, UH, UH, JUDGE ADAMS HAS THE LARGEST STAFF THERE IN THE SET COURTHOUSE.

THOSE FUNDS TO PURCHASE THE OTHER MACHINE COME OUT HIS, DID THEY COME OUT HIS UH, TECHNOLOGY FUND.

USE THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE.

SO IF THERE'S ONE MACHINE FOR ALL THE CLERKS, UH, COULD MY ASSISTANT USE THAT MACHINE? YES.

IN OTHER WORDS, JUST TO HAVE ONE MACHINE FOR EACH SET OF COURTHOUSE OR IF YOU CHOSE THEY COULD, COULD SET A COMPUTER UP AND THEY, THE CLOCK THEY JUST, YOU COULD HAVE A COMPUTER SET UP ON A, THEY WALK IN BUT IT COULDN'T BE THE SAME MACHINE.

SO BUY ANOTHER COMPUTER.

NO, I WAS THINKING OF DOING IS TAKING SOME OF THE ONES WHERE AS WE RECYCLE AND PUT A NEW PRODUCT OUT, YOU KNOW, NEW COMPUTERS OUT, TAKE SOME OF THE OLD ONES AND HAVE 'EM DEDICATED.

THE HARDWARE UTILIZATION WOULD BE VERY LITTLE WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.

UM, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE GOING ACROSS THE TIME CLOCK AND YOU'RE BACK, YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL EMPLOYEES COMING THROUGH THE COURT AT ONE TIME AND THE CLOCK PROBABLY MAKES FIVE SIX BECAUSE ON THE, ON THE COMPUTER SIDE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE COST SAVINGS NOT HAVING BOX COMPUTER, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO PULL UP THAT SCREEN, THE LOGIN PUT IN YOUR EMPLOYEE ID A PASSWORD CLOCK, CLOCK OUT.

SO, SO THAT PROCESS TAKES LONGER.

SO YOU KIND OF AT WHAT THAT LINE IS COST IS, THE GOOD THING IS IF YOU, YOU HIT A BOTTLE ROAD WITH THE TIME PROXIMITY COLOR, IS THERE ANY PSYCH GUARD TO KEEP ONE POINT? WELL I THINK, UH, WHAT TOMMY WAS GONNA DO IS ROGER BREWER, HE'S GONNA SIGN HIM THE FALL ABOUT THAT BIG WHEN THE GUYS COME IN IT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IS TAKE YOUR CAR OFF THE BOARD.

WELL IF, IF ONE OR THE OTHER, SOMEONE ELSE TRIES TO DO IT.

SO IN TIME, THAT'S CALLED VALUE.

UM, AND IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, CAUSE CONCERN ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT'S WHERE THE PLAY THE TIMEKEEPING INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK THAT REALLY AFTER NOT ENOUGH TECHNOLOGY, CHEAP ENOUGH TO WHERE THE TIMEKEEPING INDUSTRY COULD ADOPT IT TO THEIR TIMECLOCK.

AND SO THAT SOLVED ISSUE, IT DOES ADD A MORE, BUT IT NOW YOU COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY BIOMETRIC TIME CLOCK IN ONE LOCATION.

YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE ONE OR ANOTHER.

UM, ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT IS RECORD JUDGE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH EXTRA COMPUTER AND IF WE COULD TEACH OUR HOW TO PUT SAVE EXTRA MONEY TIME.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND THAT BE PERFECT.

IN FACT, YOU MIGHT HAVE VICKY GIVE A LITTLE CLASS OVER THERE.

WILL ANY COMPUTER WORK, ANY COMPUTER CAN GET INTERNET ACCESS? WHAT ACCESS YOU HAVE TO HAVE DO REMOTELY IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE REMOTELY MEANING AT A LOCATION? WELL, LIKE MY PRECINCT FORM, YES SIR.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET INTERNET ACCESS.

YOU DON'T YOU YES, BUT I'VE HAD A JUDGE THAT WANTS ME TO BE VERY, VERY, VERY, UH, CAREFUL WITH MY QUESTION.

WE'VE ALREADY RESOLVED THE PROBLEM.

OKAY, SO EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE THAT.

ALMOST EVERYBODY IN ALL THESE OFFICES HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL COMPUTERS.

COMPUTERS, COMPUTER.

BUT MOST EVERYBODY HAS ONE AT THEIR DESK.

WELL THAT COMPUTER, CAN YOU CLOCK IN FROM A COMPUTER? DOES THAT COMPUTER HAVE TO BE TIED IN THE SYSTEM OR CAN CAN I BE AT

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HOME AND CLOCK IN? A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO THERE'S SECURITY SETTING PART OF THE SETUP OF THIS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS SECURITY.

SO FIRST THING, SECURITY IS WHO'S ALLOWED TO CLOCK IN FROM A COMPUTER'S CALLED WEB SERVICE.

SO WE TURN THAT OPTION ON OR OFF DEPENDING ON WHETHER EMPLOYEES OR ALL EMPLOYEES HAVE THAT.

THE SECOND LEVEL IS DO WE RESTRICT THEM FROM CHECKING THEIR IP ADDRESS? MEANING THAT I, THAT EVERY COMPUTER HAS A UNIQUE IP ADDRESS, DO THEY HAVE TO IN FROM THIS IP ADDRESS? SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY GROUP IP ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BUILDING.

UM, AND THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT OTHER EMPLOYEES AND UM, PERHAPS YOU DO WANT PEOPLE TO ACCESS A C PHONE.

IN THAT CASE YOU WON'T CHECK THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR SUPERVISOR.

SO THERE IS SECURITY TO WHERE YOU CAN OPEN OR YOU CAN RESTRICT IT.

THE PHONE, SAME THING ON THE PHONE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING THROUGH YOUR NETWORK AT THAT POINT.

SO IT'S NOT SO FOR VERY, VERY SPECIALIST PEOPLE WHO REALLY TRUST IMPLICITLY WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PHONE, RIGHT? THERE'S ACTUALLY THIS TIME OF A FREE, UM, APP ON ABSOLUTE FOR USE IPHONE OR AN ANDROID THAT WILL ALLOW EMPLOYEE TO LOG IN THEIR TIME WITH A SMARTPHONE AS AN IPHONE OR ANDROID.

SO WHAT'S GOING WHAT? GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

SO WHAT'S GONNA BE THE PROCESS IF WE PASS THIS UH, TODAY? UH, YOU COME TO EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD OR, AND SEE WHAT, SEE WHAT WE NEED.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF I WANT A TIME CLOCK HANG ON THE WALL DOWN THERE AND A BUNCH OF CARDS ON THE BOARD, UH, YOU JUST COME DOWN THERE AND SAY THIS, WE NEED THAT.

AND THEN YOU GO UP TO THE SET COURTHOUSE AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED HERE.

AND THEN YOU GO PRECINCT ONE, THREE AND AND TWO AND DO THE SAME THING AND I'M MORE, OR DO WE JUST SEND IT IN, SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, SEND IN ON EMAIL, SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, COME PUT IT IN.

I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS WHO KNOW ARE GOOD, BUT THOSE, THERE'S SOME UNCERTAINTY.

WE'LL CERTAINLY SIT WITH THOSE FOLKS AND SURE.

TRY TO CLARIFY ANY OF, I THINK THE DELTAS GONNA BE, IF ANYONE DEPARTMENT TIMECLOCK, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DISSATISFIED.

IT'S GONNA BE A VERY SMOOTH PROCESS.

I THINK THOSE THAT CHOOSE NOT TO, AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY COST AND THEY MAY BE A HERO RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY GO DOWN THE ROAD, IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE AN ISSUE, THEY CAN A TIMECLOCK TO THAT AND USUALLY THE ISSUE GONNA BE ARE ACCEPTABLE GOING IN AND THEY'RE SHOWING UP AT WORK ON TIME AND THERE'S A LINE OF 10 PEOPLE IN FRONT OF IN, UM, THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, OUR EMPLOYEE WOULD BE UPSET ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT'S ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE.

UH, IF WE, IF WE DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS TODAY, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT TOWN WISE TO GET? SO FROM THE TIME THAT, UH, THAT YOU GUYS SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH US WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 90 DAYS.

IT COULD GO LONGER, IT COULD BE 90 DAYS, IT COULD BE SIX MONTHS.

AND THE REASON I DO THAT, THAT DELTA THERE IS THAT IF WE GOT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM HERE ON REPRESENTING A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER AUTOMATED THIS PROCESS, YOU COULD HAVE A 10 INTERPRETATIONS OF PAYROLL AND WORK RULE ON HOW SOMEONE'S PAY GETS CALCULATED.

SO THAT PROCESS ON LAW SIDE, WE SIT DOWN WITH DEFINE THAT, UM, UNTIL THAT'S DEFINED AND EVERYBODY'S SIDE IS OFF ON IT, WE REALLY CAN'T START, UM, PROGRAM BUT CONFIGURING THE SYSTEM WITH YOUR RULES.

SO ON YOUR SIDE, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE STRONG LEADING THAT AS PROJECT MANAGER, MAYBE FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS, THEN IF COULD WE TURN THOSE RULES AROUND A MONTH AND THEN WE SPEND THE NEXT TWO MONTHS TESTING, IT TAKES YOU GUYS SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET ALL THAT DATA TO IT.

THEN OUR START TIME IS IN THAT SEVERAL MONTHS.

WE NEED AT LEAST PROBABLY A MONTH OF FIGURE, MONTH OF TEST AND THEN KIND OF MAYBE A PARALLEL WITH THAT PAYROLL RUN INTERFACE.

WE'LL DO, UM, TYPICALLY TWO PAY PERIODS WHERE WE'RE RUNNING, UM, YOU GUYS BIWEEKLY PAY PERIOD.

SO YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY FOUR WEEKS OF RUNNING A MANUAL PAYROLL WHERE YOU'RE TAKING THE TIME OUT.

OUR SYSTEM AND KEY PLUS WE'RE DOING INTERFACE A TEST SYSTEM AND COMPARE THE ONE THING THAT, UM, THE S DW SOFTWARE PEOPLE CALLED ME FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND TOLD ME THAT, UM, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE CONVERSION.

THEY'RE READY TO DO THE TRAINING AND BE TO ACTUALLY DO A PAYROLL.

SO WE NEED TO BE ON THAT PAYROLL SYSTEM RELEASE, SPARK THIS IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE THOSE SYSTEMS ARE GONNA BE BACK AND FORTH TO EACH OTHER.

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BE MORE TO COME OUT AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED EVERY OFFICE.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE FREE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

50 AN HOUR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO DID MAKE YOUR DECISIONS PRIOR TO GETTING THERE WITH THE INFORMATION WE ALREADY GOT.

AND I LIKE THE PART ABOUT THE, THE TIME CLOCK IS SIMPLEST, THE EASIEST AND THE QUICKEST THING TO DO AND I THINK IT WOULD SAVE US SOME MONEY ALL THE WAY AROUND, BUT I DON'T WANT SEE A BOTTLENECK COURTHOUSE TO DO IT.

I'M ALL IN WITH IN MY OPERATION.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW WHAT I, WHAT I LIKED ABOUT WAS COMING OUT THIS WAS IF WE DECIDE THAT WE DO NEED TIME LOCK THAT MAY BE SEPARATE THAN DO A COMPUTER THING.

YOU MAY FIND THAT COMPUTER THING IS, YOU KNOW, MORE BURDENSOME THAN TECHNIQUE.

BUT I, I AGREE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN IT GETS STARTED WE TALK ABOUT THIS FOR TOO LONG.

WELL, AND I I THINK THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE TALK, YOU KNOW, CHANGE.

BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT, IS NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT ALL.

IT'S NOT GONNA ANY BETTER.

I GUESS WE CAN FIND OUT.

WE JUST SAY, OKAY, DO IT ON THE COMPUTER, WHATEVER AND WE FIND OUT SIX MONTHS, A YEAR OR WHATEVER, THAT SOMEBODY ISN'T ABUSING THE SYSTEM, NOT WORKING OUT.

WE CAN GO BACK AND CHANGE THE RULES TO AM I CORRECT IN THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

MAKE SURE THEY IS A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTED.

WHATEVER.

I DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, BIG BROTHER EVERYBODY.

RIGHT? IT'S KIND THAT CRAWL, CRAWL AUTOMATED.

I'D MAKE A SECOND MOTION.

SECOND A FAVOR.

SAY I IYE OPPOSED.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS WILL, THIS WILL BE A CHANGE FOR US BUT IT CHANGE LONG.

I BELIEVE YOUR, I'M SORRY I DID NOT.

UH, ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER SETTING A DATE FOR THE COUNTYWIDE.

OKAY? I COME BEFORE COURT TODAY AND WHAT DAY YOU WOULD TO GET QUICK.

SO MOTHER'S DAY IS ON MAY, THE FRIDAY, MAY, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.

WE HAD, WE HAD THAT DATE THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

PEOPLE KIND OF USED TO GETTING IT DONE BEFORE MOTHER'S DAY.

FRIDAY THIRD AND FOURTH, MOTHER DAY, 10TH, SUNDAY, SUNDAY THAN WE HAVE ON, WE HAVE A MOTION.

CLARK COUNTY WIDE.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME, I'LL BE DOING THE I HAVE A MOTION.

I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND MAN.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED ALL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CONSIDERING BID FOR WE HAVE MOTION, WE HAVE SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.

ANY DISCUSSIONS ALL SAY A AYE NUMBER, UH, 13 IS TO DISCUSS TRANSFERRING PRECINCT THREE CAR TO PRECINCT THREE ROAD BRIDGE.

I BROUGHT THIS BEFORE COURT TODAY, UH, SINCE THE PARKING CAR HAS TAKEN OVER RE IT IT'S NOT A RESPONSIBILITY TO TRANSFER A VEHICLE FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO THE NEXT.

UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT, UH, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS DISCUSSION THAT UH, WE USED UTILIZE THE PROCEEDS FROM THE CELL OF CARS, UH, TO HELP PAY FOR THE TAHOE PURCHASE AND ALSO TO, UH, HELP WITH UH, ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT CONCENTRATED

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VEHICLE BASED ON I GO HOME, I GO RIGHT BY FARM BUREAU.

I BELIEVE BEST MY RECOLLECTION WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING TILE, I BELIEVE THIS ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THAT EXTENSIVE REPAIRS ON IT TRANSMISSION THING.

I KNOW THE VEHICLES SELL OUT AND I'LL TRANSFER THAT OUT MY, SO THAT UH, PROBLEM.

WELL I JUST, I JUST WANTED YOU WERE AWARE THAT BEST, THE BEST I CAN REMEMBER BEEN A LOT OF REPAIRS DONE ON THE VEHICLE WHEN HE, WHEN HE CAME IN AND TALKED TO US ABOUT IT.

AND UH, I I'VE TRIED TO FIND MY NOTES ON IT.

I COULDN'T FIND THEM.

BUT ANYWAY, THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF REPAIRS THAT BEEN DONE ON, I WANNA MAKE SURE UNLESS WE WERE SCAMMED DURING THE BUDGET TIME, THESE VEHICLES WERE TOLD US TO BE ON SAFE AND DRIVE.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IF THEY'RE GOING SAFE TO DRIVE TO GET REPLACED AND THEY NEED TO BE JUMPED AND NOT BE USED ANYMORE.

IF THEY'RE UNSAFE FOR THE CONS, THE SHERIFF DRIVE ABOUT MILES WERE ON THERE, THEY'RE STILL UNSAFE OR WE'RE NOT.

WHENEVER YOU, YOU OKAY.

FURTHER DISCUSSION JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT MORNING MY DECISION TRYING, BUT, UH, WE COULD HAVE PROBLEM GOING FORWARD.

THERE MAY BE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE, YOU GIVE PERMISSION TO BUY VEHICLES BASED ON THE FACT THEY'RE GONNA TRADE IN STOCK.

WHAT, WHAT IF THE OTHER PARTS GONNA BUY THAT VEHICLE BACK? THAT'S MY SHANE HAS, UH, DECIDED TO PUSH FORWARD ON THIS.

WILL THIS LEAVE? LIKE IT'S NOT BE MORE TO TAKE NO ACTION.

THOSE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS.

DISCUSSION.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

WE'LL JUST, UH, NOT TAKE ACTION ON ITEM 13 AND WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 14.

AND THAT'S, UH, THE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER LEASE PURCHASING TWO MAG TRUCKS WITH PRECINCT NUMBER ONE THROUGH THE ONE HAS, UH, TWO TRUCKS CURRENTLY ON THE BUYBACK PROGRAM.

THOSE SIX EACH.

AND WITH THE TOTAL, WITH ALL THE INVENTORY, TAX, WHATEVER, THREE AND BUYBACK BACK.

I WOULD MAKE RECOMMENDATION.

I KNOW THIS IS A DEAL.

TELL AGAIN HOW IT WORKS.

UH, WE, WE LEASE IT AND THEN THEY BUY IT BACK.

PURCHASE IT BACK.

YES SIR.

UH, I GUESS SHORT WORD IT IS.

WE WE'RE LOOKING AT A TRUCK THAT'S, THAT'S SIX.

THEY'RE TO BUY THAT TRUCK BACK.

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SO WHAT HAPPENS IS OVER THAT 18 MONTH PERIOD, UH, THE COUNTY WILL PAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL PURCHASE AND BUYBACK AND THEN THE FINANCIAL CHARGES THAT I THINK IT COMES TO ABOUT 12 PER MONTH AS OPPOSED TO FINANCING WHOLE.

WE TURN IT IN AFTER 18 AND YOU HAVE NEVER HAVE REPAIR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY TIRES.

WARRANTY, WARRANTY.

IT'S KIND OF A BRAINER.

IT THE BIG, THE BIG SELLING POINT THAT AFFECT US.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING HAUL YOU GET OVER VEHICLE PAY.

YEAH.

SO WHEN THAT TRUCK HITS OLD THAT NO LONGER APPLIC, WE SELL THE TRUCKS CONTRACTOR NEW SAFE SELLING AND KEEPS US THE TRUCKS.

ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE LEASE PURCHASING THOSE TWO.

SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER, YOU MADE A MOTION OR JIMMY MADE A MOTION AND UH, SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR?

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I THINK BUY A TRUCK.

TRACTOR.

THAT SAME, UH, SAME RECOMMENDATION.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AND UH, ANY QUESTIONS? THAT MOTION YOU HAVE ONE MORE THING? I JUST LIKE TO GIVE THE COMMISSION TO, TO UH, GET MS. COOPER ON FINANCING.

WE'RE HANDLING THE SIDE.

COOPER ON THE FINANCING SIDE.

12.

WE TAKE MUNICIPAL FINANCE COMPANIES TO SEE FINANCE.

OKAY, SO IT'S FIVE THREE.

YES.

HAVE A COMMOTION.

ABOUT COMMOTION.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

CALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

NUMBER 16 IS TO CONSIDER PURCHASING A CASE, A FORMAL TRACTOR FOR PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR THROUGH THE NATIONAL JOINT POWER OF ALLIANCE DEPARTMENT.

JIM, THIS IS A, UH, TRACTOR POWER USE SAME CO-OP SHANE

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PREBI.

THIS A WHEEL DRAFT GONNA BE USED TO REPLACE A TRACTOR THAT WE HAVE HAD AND SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON AND ON.

I HAVE A MOWER THAT I BOUGHT LAST YEAR.

I TRACTOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SHANE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ITEM I PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA WE WEEKS AGO.

AND UH, BASIC AMOUNT TO THAT, THE RULES FOR THE MAN.

HE DIDN'T CITY, COUNTY.

EXACT SAME.

IF THE COUNTY CAN BE, UH, PERMIT FEE STILL HERE? YES SIR.

OKAY.

I SPEAK FOR YOU.

YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THAT'S ALRIGHT.

I DON'T THINK LARRY HAS A PROBLEM WITH DOING THIS AND THAT'S ONLY REASON I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS IS THAT IF YOU, IF YOU DO WHAT THE, WHAT THE PLAN WAS WHEN YOU WENT THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPENSES ARE.

YOU DON'T WANNA BLOW INTO A PROJECT AND SOMEBODY ADDS AN EXPENSE THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THROUGH NO GROUND.

SO I MAKE BOTH PRE IS PERMANENTLY $500.

IS IT NORMAL TO, UH, SINCE IT'S IN THE COUNTY, IS IT NORMAL TO SECURE THE COUNTY PERMIT FIRST? IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? AND THEN THE CITY THE CAME, THE CITY'S GONNA REQUIRE A PERMIT.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY RIGHT NOW WITH SOME STUFF WE GOT WITH JOHN AND LARRY TO DETERMINE THE CITY IS GOING PERMIT OR WE'RE GONNA PERMIT ONE.

NOT OF US UNLESS BOTH OF US, UNLESS IT IS SPECIFIED WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING.

BUT WET GOT THAT POLICY WORK TO WE DO NOT.

AND CERTAINLY WE DIDN'T AT THE TIME THAT UH, DID THIS DON'T I WOULD BE, THAT SITUATION WAS BILLY WAS ALREADY UP.

WHAT DOES NOW SINCE US SENIOR WORKING TOGETHER, GERALD, UH, I TOGETHER, SO PRESENTLY THERE ONLY CITIES THAT REQUIRE PERMITS IN COUNTY SO FAR ARE GONNA BE COUNTY MESQUITE AND VILLE.

CAN THEY DO THEIR OWN PERMITS? EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS THE PERMIT IN THOSE PERMITS PERMIT NOT COUNTY.

LARRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WELL, I MEAN THE MAIN POINT TO THIS IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE ETJ IS WHEN MESQUITE CAME IN WITH THEIR CITY LIMITS, THEY ALREADY ASSUMED THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND ABILITY TO DO IT IN THEIR CITY LIMITS.

AND SO WE WERE STILL DOING IN THE E TJ, THAT'S THEIR TERRITORY JURISDICTION OUTSIDE THAT CITY LIMIT.

AND SINCE THAT TIME CITYVILLE, I'M SORRY, MESQUITE HAS, I'M GONNA SAY PROVEN THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO ASSUME ALL THOSE INSPECTIONS AS WELL AS THE LIFE AND SAFETY INSPECTIONS, EVEN IN THEIR ETJ AND THE SAME ITY HAS ALREADY HAD A, A CASE FILED ON IT AND, AND WAS PROVEN IN THEIR FAVOR THAT THEY ALSO HAVE THAT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE THE DIFFERENCE WAS.

WE WERE CONTINUING TO DO THEM IN THE ATGS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE SHOULD.

AND NOW THERE'S THOSE THREE CITIES THAT ARE SAYING BECAUSE THERE'S LEGAL PRECEDENTS SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE THAT, RIGHT, THAT THEY WANT TO ASSUME IT.

YOU HAVE THAT SAME ABILITY IN ANY ETJ WITHIN THE COUNTY ON ANY CITY.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET SOMETHING WORKED UP TO WHERE WE CAN SEE, I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY OTHER CITY WISHING TO DO THAT AND TAKE ON THAT ROLE.

SO IN RED'S CASE, WE HAD ISSUED A BUILDING PERMIT, DONE A LIFE SAFETY INSPECTIONS ON IT AND CVILLE COMES IN BEHIND IT AND SHUTS HIM DOWN AND SAYS WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT THAT WE WOULD DOUBLE BILL OR HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE IT ON, ON A CITIZEN OUT THERE TRYING TO BILL SOMETHING.

AS MUCH

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AS I DON'T LIKE GIVING IT UP, IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THEY HAVE THAT LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DO SO UNDER E TJ.

SO AT THIS POINT I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO, TO ABIDE BY IT AND UH, AND MONEY BACK.

SO WHO PROVIDES FIRE OBJECTION? WELL, IT STILL COMES OUT OF OUR COUNTY SOMEWHERE IN OUR COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING IT.

UH, STILL, STILL CONFUSING.

AND I, I THINK I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT COMMISSIONER IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO THAT INSPECTION ON A PROPERTY THAT ONE OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS IS GONNA HAVE TO RESPOND TO.

UM, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING ON THE LEGAL ISSUES.

THEY HAVE THAT LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DO SO WE COULD COME BACK AND DO THE SAME THING WE COULD IF THAT'S WHAT THE AGREEMENT REACHED, WE COULD COME BACK AND DO THE LIFE SAFETY INSPECTION ON A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUILT AND CONSTRUCTED BY THEIR STANDARDS.

NOW HOPEFULLY THEIR STANDARDS ARE ABOVE OR EQUAL TO OURS.

BUT WHAT IF IT WASN'T AND WE WENT OUT THERE AND SOMEONE HAD GOT A BUILDING BUILT WITH NO SPRINKLER SYSTEM WHEN IT WAS THEREFORE REQUIRED.

THEN WE COME OUT AFTER IT'S COMPLETED AND SAY, WELL I'M SORRY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

OH BY THE WAY, THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY SET YOU BACK ANOTHER $200,000 TO START ALL OVER AGAIN.

SO IF YOU LEAVE IT ALL THEN ONE ENTITY, ENTITY, THEN THAT ENTITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

SO THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION IS, IS WHO HAS THE MOST STRINGENT UH, REQUIREMENTS? WE WE'RE ALL USING THE SAME CODE.

I GUESS IT WOULD HAVE TO JUST BASE IT ON INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE AND THAT WOULD BE BY WHOEVER'S OUT THERE.

BUT WE'RE ALL USING THE SAME CODES.

WELL TAKE THE SPRINKLER, UM, ITEM FOR INSTANCE.

UM, THE CITY ACQUIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AS WELL AS YEAH, THEY WOULD, IN FACT THEY MIGHT EVEN REQUIRE THEM MORE OFTEN THAN WHAT WE DO.

CITY OF ME.

I I FEEL SURE IN THE CITY OF THE CITY OF ME SKIES GOING TO, THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE SAME IBC AND FIRE CODES WHAT WE ARE SAME YEAR AND EVERYTHING.

SO IT'S GONNA, UNLESS SOMEONE JUST INTERPRETED SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, YOU'RE GONNA BE IDENTICAL.

WELL THAT'S MY CONCERN IS TO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BUILD A, A BUILDING THAT WAS IN THEIR ETJ AT A LOWER COST THAN OUR CITIZENS COULD BUILD ANYWHERE ELSE.

UM, SAY IF THEY DID NOT REQUIRE SPRING, THAT'S A BIG COST.

UM, OH ABSOLUTELY.

YOU KNOW THAT, THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BUILD IN IN THE CITY PT A INSTEAD OF OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY POSSIBLY.

YES SIR.

THEY'LL BE VERY IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS JUST GIVE SOMETHING SO WE DON'T DO THIS AGAIN.

THE CITY COUNTY IS GOING AGREEMENT.

WE'RE GOING DO Y'ALL GOING DO IT.

AND LIKE I SAID, MEDICARE, EVERYBODY ONLY WANT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GEAR DO THAT.

JOHN, DO YOU HAVE IN A FEW LOCATIONS? THEY'RE NOT A I, UM, I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER CLARK JUST SAID THAT THE BEST WAY TO AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE IS JUST TO CONTRACTUALLY RESOLVE WHO'S GONNA DO IT IN DIFFERENT CITIES.

I THINK IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, I I WOULD ALSO ANTICIPATE THE CITIES WOULD WANT ENFORCE, THEY WOULD NOT WANNA ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BUILD OUTSIDE THEIR CITY.

I THINK THEY WANNA BE, WHEN YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT PERHAPS MORE PERMISSIVES, WELL THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA, WE CONTINUE TO, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA COME UP OVER.

YEAH, WE REALLY DO NEED TO ISSUE JUST REFUND WAS CALLED IN THE MEANTIME BEFORE.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO REFUND THE 500 PERMIT FEE, SECOND MOTION.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL NUMBER, UH, 18 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER OPTIONS FOR RECYCLING IN PRECINCT NUMBER TWO, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AGO.

YES SIR.

UH, LOOKED AT ALL OR NOT ALL OPTIONS.

LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS AS TO, CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER AND IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT IS TO BUY THE FOUR CONTAINERS OR TWO CONTAINERS, UH, THAT ARE 3,500 A PIECE THAT, UH, MARYLAND CAN GET.

ARE THERE STILL ABOUT 3,500 A PIECE OF MARYLAND? I BELIEVE SO.

MM-HMM .

MIGHT THAT'LL COME PICK THEM UP AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER PER HAUL.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR LARGE CONTAINER RIGHT, THAT WE'VE GOT THERE IS OVERFLOWED EVERY WEEK AND UH, PEOPLE ARE RECYCLING.

I MEAN I GO THROUGH THERE

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AND LOOK AND KNOW IT'S NOT HOUSEHOLD TRASH, IT, IT'S CANS AND PAPER AND PLASTIC TRASH.

WE'VE GOT MORE BUSINESS AS YOU CAN TELL BY THE REPORTS YOU GET EARLIER OVER.

WE BRING FOR, WHICH IS A GOOD PROBLEM.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S GONNA COST, IT'S GONNA COST US MORE MONEY.

AND THIS, THIS COMES OUT THE COUNTY PRECINCT MONEY.

SO I AGREEABLE WITH IT.

I CHECKED WITH THE COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL AND THEY'LL DO IT FOR $5 A LOAD MORE.

THAT'S NOT WORTH CHANGING WHAT WE GOT RIGHT NOW THAT STILL ON THE PHONE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE.

SPACE.

AND IF WE BUY THESE TWO CONTAINERS FOR $7,000, THEN WHEN THEY'RE FULL WE CAN CALL AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY'LL COME AND GET 'EM FOR A HUNDRED.

RIGHT? IT COULD BE, COULD JUST BE TWO A WEEK AND IT COULD BE FOUR WEEK, IT COULD BE FIVE WEEK.

DEPENDS THERE'S GONNA BE 11 YARD CONTAINERS.

RIGHT.

AND THEY'RE SMALL ENOUGH THAT I THINK, UM, THEY'LL FIT IN THAT SPACE REAL EASILY.

BUT WE MAY HAVE TO SIDEWAYS FROM, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET, THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT TRAILER COME OVER AND PICK THAT UP AND THEY CAN HAUL, THEY'LL PRECINCT TOO TO THE PRECINCT THREE RECITE.

IT'LL COST US MORE MONEY THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

BUT IF WE WENT TO TWICE A WEEK PICK UP IF WE GOT ANOTHER BIG CONTAINER OR IF WE DIDN'T PICK UP TWICE A WEEK, THEY GO FROM THREE TO 600.

COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE ALMOST SOMETIMES.

ARE THEY SELF WHEELED OR ARE THEY THEY'RE LIKE ROLL OFF BED.

IT'S A ROLL OFF, ROLL OFF BED.

LIKE THREE PARTITIONS BUT THREE SECTIONS OF 11 YARDS.

THEY'RE SMALLER.

IS THAT THEY PUT ALL THE PRODUCTS IN THERE TOGETHER.

THERE'S NO, NO SEPARATION CONTAINER WON'T WORK FOR EITHER.

THE CONTAINER WORKS FOR US FIVE, WE'VE TO HAVE MORE PICK THAN WE GOT RIGHT NOW.

THE D CONTAINER IS FULL ON DAY FOUR AND FIVE, NOT BASE SET.

SO IF WE GET TWO CONTAINERS, THAT'S DOUBLE THE EXPENSE.

OR I MEAN IF WE, IF WE HAVEN'T PICKED UP TWICE A WEEK, THAT'S DOUBLE THE EXPENSE.

IS THAT MASKED? Y'ALL KEEP IT MASKED BACK OVER.

PUSH UP IN THERE.

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE SO ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE BUT THEY DON'T LEAVE THEIR TRASH ON THE GROUND.

I MEAN EVEN IF IT'S IN ACTUARY, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TAKE IT BACK HOME AND CAUSE IT WAS COOL SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT IT.

THEY WON'T LEAVE IT ON.

SOME PEOPLE DO LEAVE IT ON THE GROUND AND WE HAVE, WE CAN, BUT SOME PEOPLE WILL TAKE IT BACK HOME TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T BLOW AWAY.

SO NOT MOST DID THAT.

WE BUY THE TWO TWO CONTAINERS AND CONTRACT WITH THE CO-OP EACH PER SAVE MONEY.

MONEY OF MONEY ON END UP.

IF WE GO TWO TWO PICKUPS RIGHT NOW YOU IT'S GONNA GO FROM 15,000 TO 30 A YEAR.

THEY PICKED IT UP TWICE A WEEK.

EVEN AFTER WE BUY THE FIRST TIME WE BUY THE CONTAINERS.

THE FURNITURE'S $31,000, 27,000.

SO ON THE FIRST YEAR ALONE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ABOUT $4,000 SAVINGS I TUBE, I'M GONNA CONTAINERS AND IT COULD BE MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO GET FOUR PER WEEK.

WE LEAST GET THREE.

YEAH.

BUT WE CAN CALL ONE OR FOUR WHAT THESE CONTAINERS SERVE.

UH, A LOT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN PRECINCT ONE AND A LOT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS ON, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTING ANY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR SAY NUMBER 19 DISCUSSED CONSIDERING MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING COUNTY AND HE DESIREE YOU THIS SOFTWARE IS WHAT I PAY MY BILLS WITH AND PROCESS CLAIMS AND KEEP UP WITH MY CLIENTS THAT I HAVE.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, IF I HAVE A QUESTION, IT'S NOT ONE THAT I HAVE TO CALL AND THEY'LL

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CALL YOU BACK.

THEY'RE THERE RIGHT.

AND ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.

THEY HAVE NEVER GONE UP ON THEIR PRICES, UM, SINCE WE'VE HAD 'EM AND THEY WERE VERY, WHEN WE CLOSED THE CARE OFFICE DOWN AND WE NO LONGER DO THE SOFTWARE FOR THAT OFFICE, THEY WERE VERY CONSIDERATE IN UNDERSTANDING ALL THAT AND THEY DID NOT CHARGE US ANYTHING FOR CANCELING THAT OUT.

SO, AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS WE KEEP IT.

WHAT'S THAT COST YOU? UM, I KNOW THE MONTH IT'S $1,500 A MONTH.

1000 THOUSAND? YES.

MM-HMM .

THEY SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY.

THEY SAVE US BO'S MONEY.

YEAH.

THEY'RE VERY ON TOP OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CHANGES WITH MEDICAID.

THEY KEEP US INFORMED, THEY SEND US EMAILS AND THEY KEEP ME ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, UM, AND THEY GO TO ALL THE MEETINGS.

THEY DON'T AND AUSTIN AND THEY JUST KEEP UP ON EVERYTHING.

KEEP US, LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

JUST THE TWO.

YOU AGREE? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS? DID I WE, THE OU HEALTHCARE PA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CLARK, WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 20 IS TO THE RESOLUTION FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF LIMITATIONS.

THIS IS, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES AS WELL AS THE, UH, TEXAS DIVISION ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, QUALITY AND EPA.

AND IT'S, UH, WE'RE ONE THOSE NON ATTAINABLE COUNTIES AND UH, THIS IS A COMPONENTS WITH THAT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO LET THEIR LARGE VEHICLES RUN.

YOU KNOW, IS THIS SOMETHING IN, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IF YOU DON'T DO THIS BECOMES AN ISSUE, WE DON'T.

SO THEY WOULD SANCTION SOME SANCTIONS, REQUIRE GRANTS RESOLUTION TO, TO GET, TO GET GRANTS TO DO REPLACE EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER FOR THE SHERIFF.

SO TUR GRANTS AND THEN THE SHERIFF HAD SOME, UH, SOME KIND OF BIG ISLAND THING PUT ON.

DID YOU SHERIFF WHATEVER? NO, WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT.

THAT, OH, THAT'S, THEY GOT A LITTLE PENALTY ON THAT.

IF YOU DON'T TURN THAT VEHICLE OFF EVERY TIME IT WOULD COST US PLUG IT IN.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THAT GRANT THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

INFORMATION.

INFORMATION.

MY UNDERSTANDING THE REASON WE'RE NON AS FAR AS CONCERNED, THAT REQUIRES US TO HAVE THESE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES GOING ON.

I DIDN'T COST US ANYTHING.

I MEAN IT'S, IT'S WELL TRUE, BUT IF WE DON'T DO IT, IT MIGHT BE OTHER QUESTION.

IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T HAVE RE OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHTY.

I'LL OBTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING THE RESOLUTION FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE VEHICLE.

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SHANE? A MOTION A SECOND.

SECOND MANNING SECONDS.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

I THINK BEFORE WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, WE AND UH, HAVE A MOTION TO, AND WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON ANYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING SESSION.

SO ITEM NUMBER WILL BE DISCUSSED.

ITEM, THERE WERE JUST SOME MINOR TRANSFERS.

THREE EM WOULD BE SPECIFIC.

UM, THE BUDGET.

BUDGET AND I HAVE TO COVER.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR.

WHY THEY THAT FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THEY AND WHOEVER WAS GIVEN, I APOLOGIZE, BUT GET THAT FIXED.

THE NEXT ONE.

ANYBODY HAVE THOSE TRANSFERS? THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE DONE TO CORRECT THAT.

YES.

YES.

UH, THERE WAS TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT OVERSPENT ONE AND LET THEM KNOW DISCUSSION.

A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LIE.

TRANSFER BY THE, SO I MAY MR. MAN.

MOTION SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 23.

ALWAYS MY FAVORITE ONE.

JUST CONSIDER CLAIM FOR ONE.

THE TOTAL IS EIGHT SIX.

I STILL WANT US TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS.

WHAT WE DO, I THINK FROM THE NEXT BUDGET WE SHOULD PUT DOWN IPADS AND WE CAN SEND IT TO THEM AND THEY CAN PULL IT AND JUST THROUGH IT YOU MIGHT, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE BILLS ARE GONNA BE WHAT THEY ARE AND THEN WE JUST DISCUSS THE GO AHEAD AND I'M NOT SURE I'M OFF.

I BUT AND THEY'RE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE SIX MONTHS TO GO OR SOMETHING.

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PRECINCT DID YOU, DID YOU THAT WAS ONLY ONE.

I WAS ONLY ONE THAT DID THAT AWAY.

THAT'S MY LUCK, ISN'T IT? WELL IT MAY HAVE BEEN, IT MAY HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE BUT HE, HE MADE SURE HE WENT BACK AND FIXED ANYTHING THAT HAD THAT PROBLEM.

RIGHT.

CONCRETE.

I AROUND AIRPORT.

SO DO Y'ALL BUY ROAD SIGNS? THEY DON'T SIGN? NO.

UHUH DON'T BUY UNLESS THEY'RE FROM A CERTIFIED SOMEBODY.

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PARDON? WHAT SMITH? THE BLADES FOR OUR BRUSH COAT.

OH YEAH, WE FOUND 'EM THERE.

HALF PRICE OF WHAT THEY MANUFACTURER.

50 BUCKS A PIECE.

THEY'RE CHEAPER.

THAT'S GOOD.

HE MAY, MAY HAVE FOUND A BETTER DEAL ON IT.

WORKS OUT.

IF I HEAR SOMETHING I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

BUZZ BEFORE WE START BUZZING.

AFTER BUZZING,

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I THINK WE HE'S GONNA FIND OUT AND GET A DIFFERENT I REFER ALL TO THE JUDGE.

YES.

THAT'S THE, MY IS THIS YOUR FRAMING OR IS THAT KDD? MINE.

I CAN'T

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SO LIVE IN THE LITTLE PROMIS.

AN EMAIL? YEAH.

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WHAT? YES,

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THEY'RE NOT JUST CHECK IT AND THEN EMAIL TOM AND LET HIM KNOW TODAY JUST

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CORRECT.

IS THAT THAT ROAD YOU, THAT YOU KNOW THAT THOSE ROADS ARE MISLABEL ON THERE AND IT'S A PRIVATE, WHERE THAT PROPERTY'S LOCATED.

IT'S A PRIVATE LINE THAT GOES UP THROUGH THERE.

YOU'RE NOT LOOKING.

I SIGNED OUR BILLS.

YES.

LOOKING AT HIS.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS.

SECOND, SECOND.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A OPPOSED? AND WE MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MR. MANDY MAKES THAT A SECOND MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY OPPOSED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.