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NUMBER TWO, THAT ITEMS, THESE ARE AGAINST MY FAULT, ALL WILL MAKE HONEST ABOUT THESE, THAT EACH COMMISSION THEN WOULD BE THREE CITIZEN, THE COUNTY JUDGE WOULD WANT AT A CHAIRPERSON, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT, CHARGE THE COMMITTEE WITH THE ITEMS TO STUDY, SET A DATE FOR THE FINAL REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE TO BE DELIVERED TO THE COURT, PERHAPS BY JULY 1ST, 2000.
HAVE SET THAT ON, ON 11TH, BUT IT WOULD BE DISCUSSED.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WOULD, UH, HAVE A RESOURCE COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH WOULD BE NAMED TO ASSIST THE STUDY COMMITTEE IN PROVIDING PERTINENT INFORMATION REGARDING THE, UH, CURRENT HOUSE CONCERNS NEEDS.
UH, SUGGEST MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, AND JUDGE TIGER.
JUDGE, JUDGE LEWIS, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, MICHAEL CLELLAN, UH, SHERIFF, SHERIFF DAVID BURNS, UH, EY COUNSELOR HUGHES.
AND THEN AS A FINAL KIND OF WRAP THAT UP, WE WOULD PROVIDE ANY, UH, ASSISTANCE THAT THIS STUDY COMMITTEE WOULD FOLLOW OR WOULD NEED IF THEY ASKED US FOR SOMETHING WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT IF, IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, THIS PROCESS.
I WELCOME HEARING, UH, FROM THE COURT.
WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU ABOUT THIS PROCESS.
I WOULD SAY THAT YESTERDAY I HAD A CALL FROM THE GENTLEMAN THAT STARTED THE PETITION THAT STOPPED THIS COURTHOUSE BEING BILL IN 2000, 7,007, I BELIEVE IN 2000 EARLIER, THAT THE COMMISSIONER WAS GONNA ISSUE OBLIGATION TO BUILD HIS JUSTICE.
IT WAS RECALLED BY PETITION FROM THE HEAD DEMOCRATIC CHAIR AT THAT TIME.
HE COACH TOLD ME HE HAD MADE A MISTAKE.
HE SAID THAT HE WAS TOLD AT THAT TIME THAT, UH, HE SAID, RAY, I HAVE REGRET THIS.
HE SAID, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF Y'ALL.
CREATED A NEW ABILITY, A NEW JUSTICE CENTER.
EVEN I WAS AGAINST IT FULL HEARTED AS PETITION
HE SEEN AT THAT TIME, HE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE GROUND CONDITIONS AT THE COURTHOUSE WAS.
AND SINCE THAT TIME, IT'S JUST GOTTEN WORSE.
IT'S NOT GONNA GET ANY BETTER.
WE'RE GROWING, IT'S GONNA GET BETTER.
SO WE'VE GOTTEN MOVE FORWARD FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR, OUR CITIZENS.
SO WE'RE ON BOARD DAYS AND WE HAVE A JURY TRIAL.
WE HAVE ALL, DID WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE? PROBABLY HUNDRED PEOPLE UPSTAIRS AS WELL.
ARE ALL THE COURTS SET SAME DAY? NO.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE FOUR TRIALS ONE TIME.
AND THEY DO THAT PURPOSELY BECAUSE OF THE MIKE IS PRETTY MUCH, UH, IF YOU, IF IF EVERY COURT HAD A TRIAL ON THE SAME DAY, YOU SIMPLY COULDN'T GET EVERYBODY IN THE BUILDING.
WELL, THEY, THEY DO TRY TO AVOID.
OF COURSE THAT PROBABLY EXTENDS THE PROCESS, DOES IT NOT? WE COULD HAVE 'EM ALL ON THE SAME DAY.
YEAH, IT, UH, IT'S A, THERE'S A RIPPLE EFFECT ON ALL THE THINGS THAT IT, THAT AFFECTS.
BUT MY, MY OWN COMMENT HERE IS I, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT IF THE COURT'S BUILDING WAS BUILT, THE, THE COURTHOUSE HERE ON THE SQUARE WOULD NOT SIMPLY BECOME A DILAPIDATED DET BUILDING SITTING THERE IN THE, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SQUARE.
I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH OTHER OFFICES THAT COULD MOVE IN AND REFILL THE COURTHOUSE IN NO TIME.
AND DOWNTOWN LIN PROBABLY NEED, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT.
ALL THE COUNTY PROPERTY, WHAT WE HAVE PRETTY DIFFICULT REAL ESTATE MORE, IT MIGHT LEAK.
WE HAVE ENOUGH LAND OUT THERE ON, IT WAS DESIGNED TO OUT, THERE IS ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT THAT ESTIMATED THAT MATCH.
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WE STILL HAVE PLANS.YES, I, I'VE GOT A SET PLANS THAT, BUT I STILL HAVE ALL INCLUSIVE, PRETTY MAJE LOOKING FACILITY SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED.
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND IN MY, DID THEY HAVE ESTIMATED COST FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING? I BELIEVE IT WAS BY, BUT IT WAS A VERY LARGE, UH, FACILITY.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE HOW SERIOUSLY THAT AT, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD COMMEND TO INCLUDED IN, IN THE FACILITY.
AND IT'D BE STRICTLY FOR THE COURTS.
IT'D BE STRICTLY ENFORCEABILITY.
IT PROBABLY, UH, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I'M SURE WOULD BE LOCATED THERE AS WELL.
UH, WE PROBABLY, UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE IN OUR COURTHOUSE.
AND, UH, THERE IS PERHAPS MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A SATELLITE OFFICE, HAVE THE CIVIL OFFICE.
I MEAN IT BE SOME WAY CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST DOING CIVIL UH, FINES.
THEY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY OUT JAIL TO DO THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER THING I RESOURCE, YOU KNOW, MINUS HAVE SOME KIND OF PROFESSIONAL GUIDANCE ON OUR NEEDS INTERVIEW.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I PUT THAT DEFINITELY SHOULD BE.
THIS IS THE MEETING AT OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING.
WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT URGED US TO START LOOKING AT THIS.
WELL, I AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
UH, BUT I WANNA, I WANNA MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE NOT COME TO A DECISION AT THIS POINT.
UH, THERE'S A LOT, A LOT OF, OF STUDY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THIS FACILITY, PROPOSED FACILITY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS MONEY THING, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT IN THIS, I BELIEVE THAT FEEL LIKE YOU, TRANSPORTATION MEETINGS NEED TO BE MET.
AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING WITH, UH, OLD EQUIPMENT.
WE RUNNING ON SHORT STRING AND WE, WHEN, WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN HERE, WE CLAMP DOWN ON EVERYTHING.
IT JUST SEEMED LIKE EVERY TIME WE TURNED AROUND THAT THERE'S A, A NEED FOR A MAJOR, MAJOR PROJECT.
YOU TELL YOU WHAT THE CITIZEN INPUT IS GONNA BE ALL IMPORTANT AND, AND EDUCATING THE CITIZENS ON WHAT, WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE WITH THIS PROPOSED FACILITY IS, IS GONNA BE ALL IMPORTANT.
THAT I I I WOULD URGE EVERYBODY INVOLVED THAT WE MOVE CAUTIOUSLY IN THIS THING AND ABSOLUTELY JUST CLAMP DOWN EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN BEFORE IT PRESENTED TO OTHERS AND, AND PRESENT THEM A CONSERVATIVE PLAN AND FACILITY OR WHATEVER THESE COMMITTEES FEEL LIKE THEY NEED.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I, I FEEL LIKE SECURITY IS, IS PROBABLY THE MAJOR, THE MAJOR STEP IN THIS THING.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY FANCY AS FAR AS
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YOU FIXING SAY SO.WELL, I WAS JUST KIND OF ITERATE WHAT SAYING WE STILL OWE I THINK 17 OR SO.
WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW PEOPLE DEBT WE GET.
NOT PERSONALLY I'D SEE PAY THAT OFF.
I THINK THAT'S, I BELIEVE OFF 2021.
SO WE'RE STILL, THE GOOD NEWS IS OUR INTEREST IS A LOT CHEAPER.
THE BAD NEWS IS WE STILL OWE, BUT THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, THE BAD TURN THAN ALREADY HAS, WHICH IS NOT, YOU HAVE THAT, THAT BALANCE BETWEEN PROVIDING SAFETY AND SECURITY AND ALSO THE UH, THE NEED TO PERHAPS DO SOMETHING.
THAT WOULD BE THE REASON WE, IF WE DECIDE THAT THE REASON, MY HOPE IS WE CAN IMPROVE THE SECURITY SOMEHOW.
I KNOW WE FOR ROOM AS WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, WE QUE WE'VE BEEN DOING SLOW.
MY OPINION IS WE
WE HAVE UPSTAIRS HERE THAT COURT COURT, JILL DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA BE PERCENT SECURE WHERE YOU'RE AT.
THERE'S, YOU CAN GUARD FOR EIGHT HOURS A DAY, 10 HOURS A DAY FORWARD AND LET THEM MONEY TO GET TO THAT BEFORE DECIDE WHAT WE IN THAT DIRECTION SAY, YES, I WANT IT.
YES, I WANT TO PAY FOR IT, DON'T WE? AND GO THAT THEY SAY THEY'RE OUR BOSS.
COMMISSIONER, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS AND I PREPARED A HANDOUT ON WHAT CALL HIM AND TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE I THAT THE OTHER THING I THINK WE HAD WAS A BIG CHANCE THIS YEAR WHEN WE START DOING OUR BUDGET, THAT WE REALLY TIGHTEN UP OUR CAN UP WITH SOME OF FUNDS TO PAY DOWN DEBT.
GET WE GOT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OUR TAXPAYER THAT WE'RE IN THIS GAME TO MAKE IT RIGHT AND CAN SOMETHING ALL OF THAT PROCESS HAND THAT I PROVIDED YOU, DOES THAT LOOK REASONABLE? IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THAT, START MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
YOU GUYS, THREE PEOPLE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, PRECINCT, YOU TOO.
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I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS OFFERED, I THOUGHT WAS OFFERED.SO THAT GOOD? UH, NOW, NOW THAT'S SOUNDS LIKE REASONABLE PROCESS.
WELL WE WILL, UH, WE WILL HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA OR MONDAY.
YOU GUYS WILL COME AT THAT TIME, BUT WE'LL ASK THE, UH, TRY TO GET THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS RESOURCE.
MANY, WE'LL KIND OF DISCUSS START PROCESS DOING THAT.
THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT I DONE THIS MORNING AS PART OF THIS WORKSHOP.
MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT YOU I THE ONLY COMMENT THAT WOULD COME TO MIND TO ME IS THAT WHATEVER GETS BUILT IS NEVER GONNA BE CHEAPER THAN IT'S TODAY.
AND UH, SO THAT WILL HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GET US ALONG WAY DOWN THE ROAD.
SHERIFF, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, I THINK Y'ALL COVERED, YOU KNOW, YOU, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE AND UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAME THING.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRIED TO BUILD UP BEFORE AND UH, WE DIDN'T, WEREN'T ABLE TO PASS THE BOND ON IT.
AND SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT THIS TIME.
SO WE, WE DO SORELY NEED THIS, THIS FACILITY.
I KNOW JUDGE CHI WAS GONNA TRY TO STEP OVER THIS MORNING.
I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S MADE YET, BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL FROM THE JUDGES LATER ON PROCESS.
SO I WILL DO MY OWN WORK AS FAR AS CHECKING WITH BOND ATTORNEYS AND THE ATTORNEYS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROCEEDING ALONG AS WE SHOULD.
AND I THINK WE'RE, BUT I'LL, I'LL VERIFY THAT UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING THEY'D LIKE TO, THE PUBLIC JUST DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT EDUCATION, BECAUSE THIS NEED SO TAKE A LOT INFORMATION, WHICH IS WHY A LOT OF THESE VIOLATIONS HAVE FAILED IN THE PAST AND I, I CAN GIVE INFORMATION ON LEAST TWO COUNTIES THAT WERE TURNED DOWN ON THE ONE ANYWAY.
AND A LOT OF COMMISSIONERS ARE AND CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING REELECTED.
EVERY ONE OF THOSE GUYS GOT REELECTED.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO NEXT ITEM BEFORE THAT.
AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS, DISCUSS TREE REMOVAL COUNTY ROAD, RIGHT OF BY ELECTRIC DISCUSS ESTABLISHING COUNTYWIDE.
ANY OF YOU LIKE TO TALK TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT? I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME POSTS.
YEAH, YOU GUYS FROM THE LIKE TO STEP UP.
UM, I'LL JUST KIND OF START OFF WHAT WE DISCUSSED.
THE, OF COURSE ELECTRIC COMPANIES HAVE A POWER LINE DOWN MOST OF OUR COUNTY ROAD ON ONE SIDE AND THEY'VE OFFERED TO DO THE TREE CUTTING UNDER THEIR POWER LINES ON COUNTY ROAD, NO CHARGE IN THE COUNTY.
IT ALLOW THEM TO COME DOWN TO THE GROUND SO THAT THAT WOULD ELIMINATE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF STILL CAN'T KEEP UP.
SO, UH, WE DO THAT BUT WE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY LACK SOME SORT OF WRITTEN POLICY.
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ANYTHING OUT.WE'RE JUST PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, ON Y'ALL'S DRIVEWAY UNDER OUR POWER LINES, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT WE BE ABLE TO CUT THE TREES DOWN TO THE GROUND WHERE COME BACK UP TO WHERE Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT.
WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO BE ON LIKE A FIVE TO SIX YEAR CYCLE WITH OUR RIGHT OF WAY WITH OUR CUSTOMERS.
AND UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ELIMINATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN HAVE LESS COST ON OUR CUSTOMERS THERE, UH, THE, THAT WE DO HAVE AND YOU KNOW, WOULD Y'ALL HELP ON THAT? IF UH, THAT WOULD BE A BIG HELP FOR US DOWN THE ROAD? WELL I THINK BIG MONEY FOR POWER COMPANIES AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.
ONCE THEY CUT THEM DOWN THEN WE CAN MAINTAIN BACK CHEAPER COST EVERY YEAR.
A HIGH COST ITEM SAVE, TRY TO KEEP THEM OUTTA THE ROAD POLICY.
Y'ALL PLACES I'M SURE THE DIA TREE BE AND WE CAN TREES THIS BIG GROUND WE'RE NOT CUTTING DOWN BUT TREES THIS BIG GROUND WE OUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR DOES THAT WORK? WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A DIAMETER ON THAT THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE IN
WORK WITH SOME COMMISSIONERS DOWN THERE ON HERE AND YOU KNOW, WE DEAD TREES AND WHICH Y'ALL KNOW HOW MANY DEAD TREES THERE HAVE BEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE KIND OF WORK WITH EACH OTHER, HELPING CUT SOME OF THOSE DOWN AND GET THEM WHERE THEY WOULD FALL IN THE POWER LINE IN THE COUNTY, THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THOSE ON THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WORK OUT WITH Y'ALL.
IF THERE A CERTAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AND CUT SOME HUGE TREE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE JUST GETTING THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE A CROSS FOR EVERYBODY.
YOUR PHONE BE RINGING, OUR PHONE WILL BE RINGING AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.
WE JUST WANT TO CUT SOME OF THE SMALLER TREES DOWN, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S JUST A NUISANCE TO Y'ALL AS FAR AS MAINTAINING YOUR RIGHT OF WAY.
AND IT'S GIVEN US PROBLEMS IN THE POWER, BUT WE WANNA KEEP THE BEST RELIABLE SERVICE WE CAN FOR OUR CUSTOMERS OUT THERE AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO GO BACK THERE A COUPLE YEARS AND GO BACK AND CUT DOWN.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND, AND GET TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THAT.
NORMALLY, NORMALLY IN FRONT OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE OR SOMETHING, WE'LL ALWAYS CONTACT THE, THE HOMEOWNER.
WE'RE IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE.
WE'LL CONTACT THEM AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME AGREEMENT ON THAT.
AND IF IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE CAN'T, WE MIGHT CALL TO GET THE PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER INVOLVED THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN LOOK AT IT TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO SOME RESOLUTION ON AND AND ON THE BRUSH Y'ALL CHIP OFF THE BRUSH AND YES IT OFF.
NORMALLY THE WOOD, Y'ALL CUT UP PEOPLE TO PICK UP.
AND I'M ASSUMING THEY NORMALLY DO.
BIGGER LOGS AND HEADWOOD AND STUFF THAT PEOPLE WON'T PICK UP.
THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T THAT YOU USE S SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
HOW WIDE IS, IS UH, YOUR RIGHT OF WAY? YOUR EASEMENT? IT VERY TYPICALLY IT'S ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 30 FEET.
DEPEND WHERE THE POLES WERE SET IN.
SAY THAT'S THE CENTER BE 30 FOOT.
NORMALLY THAT ENCOMPASSES OURS ON AND CEDARS AND I WOULD THINK THAT THAT ESTABLISHING A DIAMETER OF THREE WOULD BE PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD STEP.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE I WANTED THE AGREEMENT THAT, UH, UH, THAT WE DO CONTACT THE, THE PEOPLE NOT ONLY IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE GOT, IF THEY'VE GOT A BUNCH OF BIG OAKS DOWN THEIR FENCE LINE, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT OR SMALL THAT THEY WANT LEAVE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
OF COURSE THEY MAY NOT WANT 'EM TOP, BUT YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA PROVIDE ELECTRIC SERVICE AND UH, HAVE THESE RIGHT OF WAY CLEARED.
BUT, UH, I REALLY LIKE AS LONG AS WE TWEAK, YOU GOT ROUGH DRAFT OF THE AGREEMENT OR FIXING THE DRAFT ONE OR WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA
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SIT DOWN, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, MEET Y'ALL NEXT DAY ABOUT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.Y'ALL MAY WANT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE AND THEN, AND THEN DRAFT SOMETHING ON THAT OR IF YOU WOULD PREFER SOMETHING ON THAT, THAT'S WHATEVER WOULD LOOK AT THEN LET THE COMMISSIONER LOOK AT IT, JOHN, TO LOOK AT IT'S GOOD.
UH, NOW I KNOW Y'ALL COVER A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE COUNTY AND I TO SOMEONE.
YOU WANT, WE HAVE FARMERS ELECTRIC HERE AS WELL.
I KNOW FARMERS' ELECTRIC TRUCK, PART OF THIS IS IN TOWN BUT ENCORE, I THINK THAT'S YOUR NAME.
YES, IT RE BUT WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL.
THANK YOU JUDGE WOOD AND YOUR, YOUR TIME.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DRAW UP, UH, BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT USED TO BE AN OPTION TO THE UTILITY AS TO WHEN IT'S THE BEST NEED TO EITHER TRIM OR TO TAKE IT TO THE GROUND.
WE ALL ALREADY USE IDE ON THE SMALL DIAMETER VEGETATION.
UH, USUALLY FOUR INCHES AND BELOW, UH, NO, NO TO 15 FEET.
UM, BUT A LARGE VEGETATION WE FIND OFTENTIMES THAT WE COULD GO BACK AND TURN A TREE MANY TIMES FOR WHAT IT COSTS TO TAKE TO THE GROUND AND THAT WOULD GREATLY INCREASE OUR, OUR COST OF FREE TRIM AND A REFLECTION BACK ON COST OF SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BE WRITTEN AS AN OPTION FOR THE UTILITY TO BE DETERMINATION IS WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE TO TRIM VERSUS TO TAKE IT TO THE GROUND.
IT DOESN'T LIKE THEM HAVE TO COME OUT HERE AND DO SOMETHING TODAY.
EVERY MORNING GIVES THEM AN OPTION IN THEIR SCHEDULE EXCEPT THEY GET IN A BUNCH OF, OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF GOT THE OPTION TO DEAL WITH THEM.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL IN THE WITH COUNTIES YET.
JUST MORE OF A GENTLEMAN AGREEMENT THAT WE, WE HAVE WITH 'EM TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT.
WE GOT SO FAR DOWN HERE, IT'S KIND OF ELECTRIC.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE Y'ALL COULD KIND OF GET TOGETHER AND WORK GOOD? YEAH, IF YOU WILL DO THAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ELECTRIC SERVICE S IN THE COUNTY BESIDES, WELL IF YOU DON'T MIND DOING THAT, THEN WORK OUT SOMETHING AND THEN WE'LL LET EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS REVIEW IT AND THEN GET OUR ATTORNEY TO SIGN OFF ON IT AS WELL.
I THINK WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
IT'S GREAT OPPORT WE'LL NEED TO APPROVE MEETING OR SOMETHING.
THIS KIND OF GETS OFF, OFF THE GROUND ARE ASSISTIVE SUBJECTS TO HOMEOWNERS.
Y'ALL ARE AWARE, BARELY AWARE.
WE GO OUT THERE AND TRIM A TREE DOWN AND THIS LADY WILL CALL US A THANK US.
WE DOING IT THIS DOWN HERE GONNA US TREE DOWN.
I MEAN ON THE DAY IT, IT'S OUR TREE FALLS IN ROAD HAD A CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE BIG NICE OAK TREE WE DO ON OUR CREW.
WE HAVE A PERSON THAT GOES OUT IN FRONT HIS CREW, HE PERMISSION AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS MUCH AS HE CAN.
AND THEN IF HE CAN DEAL WITH IT, THEN COME TO ONE OF US AND THEN WE'LL GO OUT AND TALK WITH THEM AND SEE IF WE CAN BACK, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS THEY, BUT WE PLEASE, WE DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO GOES OUT IN FRONT BEFORE THEY, WE CAN CONTACT CUSTOMERS IN ADVANCE AS WELL.
APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF LEADING THIS.
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YOU GUYS BEING HERE AND LADIES BEING HERE THIS MORNING AND JUST, UH, LET US KNOW WHAT, I GUESS WE'LL MAKE FINISH KIND OF THE MAIN CONTACT KIND OF, BUT CERTAINLY ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TRY, WE'LL JUST MOVE ALONG AS FAST AS WE CAN.UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS, THE LAST ITEM I HAVE ON THE AGENDA DISCUSS.
AND AS WE, UH, I HOPE THAT WE WOULD'VE BEEN MOVING A LITTLE FASTER ON THIS THAN WHAT WE'RE, BUT UH, I THINK WE'RE READY AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO, UH, START HIRING SOMEBODY TO INTERIOR BUILDING THAT WILL GO UP INSIDE THE, REMEMBER WE SET ASIDE THE FUNDS THAT WE GET THAT STARTED.
THIS IS THE NEXT PAGE THAT WOULD BE TO DISCUSS HIRING PLANS FOR THAT.
THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A, THE BUILDING WON'T HAVE THE FOUNDATION TO DESIGN.
THERE MAY NO ANTICIPATE THERE BE NO PLUMBING IN THE BUILDING.
WE HAVE S IN THE MAIN BUILDING PROBABLY NEED TO RENOVATE TALKED TO THAT I THINK VERY QUICKLY SO WE CAN START PROCESS OR HIRING SOMEONE.
WE WANNA DESIGN COURSE MEET NEEDS OF WHAT WE HAVE WHEN WE, AND WAITING ON US TO MOVE FORWARD.
THEY ME A COUPLE TIMES THEY'RE READY TO GET, SO IT'LL NOT ONLY INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION, ALSO THE NECESSARY WIRING, ALL THE THINGS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO EVERYBODY AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE MOVE FORWARD AND I HOPEFULLY HAVE SOMEBODY HERE TO TALK US NEXT WEEK ABOUT DESIGN WE SAW IN OUR LAST MEETING.
IS THAT GONNA BE BASICALLY THE FLOOR PLAN AT THAT? AND, AND SEE OF COURSE IT WAS NOT A DETAILED DESIGN I REMEMBER.
AND UH, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT AND GET, IT MAY BE, IT MAY BE WANE, BE LARGER THAN WA THAT'S, IT LOOKED LIKE THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD BLEND THAT THOSE THOSE FOLKS HAD SET UP LOOKED LIKE IT HAD.
AND UH, JUST WE COULDN'T BASE THAT, USE THAT FLOOR ONE IN AS A BASE AND THEN JUST DRAW THE SPECS ON IT.
GET, I THINK THAT BE AN OPTION.
EVERYBODY THAT IS GONNA BE INVOLVED IN IT, LOOKING AT IT, MAKING SURE THAT IT DOES MEET, MEET THE NEEDS.
BUT UH, BUT THE PLANS, THE, THE FLOOR, THE UH, THE FLOOR SPACE DESIGN IS, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS, LOOKS GOOD BUT IT ED WE DO HAVE THE, WE HAVE SOME OF THE FLOORING, YOU KNOW, THE RAISED FLOORING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET DONATED TO US.
AND SO THAT'S ONE BIG EXPENSE THAT WE'LL NOT FACE WHEN WE START WORKING ON OR BUY SOME OF IT.
IT REALLY, THIS BUILDING SHOULD NOT BE THAT HARD BUILDING TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT.
IT'S GONNA BE READY, WE SELECT SOMETHING IF WE HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE COST IS TO WITH THEIR, THEIR FEES OR WHATEVER.
PROBABLY SOMETHING DO REGARDLESS, PROBABLY SOMEWHAT.
CAN'T SELECT THOSE PEOPLE ON COST ANYWAY.
THEY QUALIFICATION I WOULD ASSUME
WOULD OUR ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WE HIRE ON GOT HIRED ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS? HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THAT HAVE, THEY MIGHT HAVE A, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED AN ENGINEERING, AN ENGINEERING STAMP ON THE PLAN.
THAT'S THE MAIN THING YOU HAVE TO HAVE.
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WE MIGHT TAKE, BUT THEY, THEY MAY HAVE A CONSTRUCTION.I'M PRETTY SURE THEY HAD A CONSTRUCTION BRANCH AND AN ARCHITECT.
I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAD SOLID COMMITTEES FROM ALL EVERYBODY.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING.
WE GOT S BUT UH, EVERYBODY SAID UH, IS NOT, THEY JUST OBSTRUCT POLICE AND FIRE AND JUSTICE CENTER BILL.
AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THOUGH THAT THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED.
I THINK RAY, AM I SAYING THAT? MAYBE NOT INITIALLY, BUT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW I KNOW KAMAN ARE BOTH VERY INTERESTED KIND OF WAITING ON US.
WE PRETTY WELL DISPATCH, SHERIFF, YOU MAY JUMP IN HERE.
WE PRETTY WELL DISPATCHED FOR EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY ANYWAY AND UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS I THINK ARE WAITING, WAITING ON US AS WELL TOO.
WILL WE RECEIVE MONEY FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BOARD DISPATCH OR? WELL, WE, THAT'S, WE NOT REALLY GOT THAT FAR INTO DISCUSSIONS.
UH, MOST OF THOSE ARE VOLUNTEERS, BUT FIRE DEPARTMENT, NOT WHETHER TOO AND, UH, WE WE'LL RECEIVE FEES FROM THESE OTHER AGENCIES.
YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE THERE SOME DISCUSSIONS AND AGAIN, SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE SINCE THERE ARE MULTI VOLUNTEERS THAT THEY CHARGE IS VERY NON, NOW THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE US PAYING FOR RADIO EQUIPMENT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES.
EACH ENTITY WILL STILL PROVIDE THEIR OWN RADIO EQUIPMENT RADIO, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE MAIN DISPATCH CENTER THAT WE WOULD WIND UP BUYING CONSOLE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DISPATCH.
BUT THE RADIOS IN THE CENTER ITSELF WOULD BE, OURS WOULD BE, YEAH, BUT THE RADIOS POLICE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY, THEY, THEY FURNISH THEY FURNISH THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT.
AM I RIGHT IN THAT SHERIFF? THEIR MOBILE RADIOS? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
AND THE CAR RADIOS AND ALL THAT.
YEAH, THE, THE HANDHELD AND ALL THAT, EACH ENTITY WOULD PROVIDE THOSE, THEY WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH, WITH OUR, UH, SETUP.
AND THIS IS GONNA CONTAIN THIS NEW RADIO SYSTEM THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLIANCE WITH.
WE DON'T WANT BUY ONE SYSTEM THAT'S GOING BE OUTDATED.
WE, WE HAVE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE WHAT THEY CALL P 25 COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS INTEROPERABILITY, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE ALL MOVING.
AND THIS IS WHY I THINK THE COUNCIL GOVERNMENT IS SO, UH, PRO IN THIS THING.
SO THIS, THEY SEE THIS AS A MODEL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UH, COMBINE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THE, UH, THE INTEROPERABILITY OF THE RADIOS, UH, AND Y'ALL KNOW WE HAD TO GO TO NARROWBAND AS OF 1ST OF JANUARY, UH, AND WE'RE UP AND OPERATING ON THAT.
UH, THERE WILL BE A TIME, UH, THEY HAVEN'T SET THAT TIME.
WE'LL HAVE TO SYSTEM AND DRIVING ALL THAT.
OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING THESE WHAT ARE OUR, UH, CHANNELS NOW OR WERE OUR CHANNELS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ADOPTED THOSE.
SO WE HAD TO, TO GO TO A NARROW BAND FREQUENCY.
UH, WE, WE ARE UP AND OPERATING ON THAT.
WE REALLY, UH, SAVED A LOT OF MONEY IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE RAIN THAN WOULD'VE OFF THE OLD TOWER.
SO, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE MOVING ALONG VERY WELL ON THAT.
BUT THE, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE BUY, UH, HAS GOT GOT THEY CALL P 25 OR INTEROPERABILITY AND THESE NEW RADIOS THAT WE HAD, NOW THEY MEET THAT, YES, SOME OF THEY ONES WE'RE BUYING NOW, BUT THEY CHANGED THAT WHAT WAS P 25 COMPLIANT THREE YEARS AGO.
YOU KNOW, THEY JUST, UH, THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT, YOU KNOW, SEEMS LIKE A MOVING TARGET.
AND, UH, I I THINK WE'RE PRETTY WELL LOCKED IN NOW WHEN WE'VE ALL GONE TOAND, UNLESS YOU'RE DIGITAL OR, OR EIGHT, YOU KNOW, 800.
UH, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL THIS, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK AND, UH, WE LOOKED EARLY ON WHEN, BEFORE THE ECONOMY CRASHED ABOUT TRYING TO, TO AVOID SOME OF THESE STEPS AND SAVE SOME MONEY, LOAN THEM.
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YOU KNOW, TO GO TO, TO DIGITAL WITH ONE STEP WAS EXPENSIVE.BUT AGAIN, IT WILL SAVE US, WOULD'VE SAVED US ABOUT THE ESTIMATE, DONE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE LONG RUN.
THE, THE GOOD THING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW WITH THESE RADIOS IS THAT IF WE, UH, GO TO DIGITAL OR ONE OF THESE SMALLER PLACES THAT COULD AFFORD TO GO TO VILLE, MAYBE THESE, OUR CONSOLES AND RADIOS WILL OPERATE ON EITHER ONE OF THEM.
SO IT'S, IT'S IT'S INTERCHANGE.
SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO BE REPLACED.
NO, THEY WON'T HAVE TO REPLACED.
UH, OUR CONSOLES RIGHT NOW ARE, ARE IN, ARE GOING ON NINE YEARS OF AGE.
UH, THE PROBLEM WE'VE GOT WITH THEM IS THEY ALL LONGER SUPPORT THOSE.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE PARTS ON THE SHELF OR THEM, YOU GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THEM MANUFACTURED OR, OR BUY ANOTHER CONSOLE WITH CONSOLE OVER THERE.
SO ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY, UH, IS, I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE THAT MANUFACTURER ONLY SUPPORTS THAT PRODUCT FOR SO LONG AND YOU KNOW, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UH, BUY SOMETHING ELSE OR, OR GET SOMETHING MANUFACTURED.
AND, UH, RIGHT NOW THEY, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT WE KNOW THAT IF WE HAVE A CONSOLE THAT GOES DOWN AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT HARBOR DOES NOT HAVE THAT ON THE SHELF, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTING THAT, UH, PROTECT HARDWARE ANY LONGER.
SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S AN INTERESTING PROCESS TO GO THROUGH.
SO BRING SOME, BRING SOMEBODY IN AND TALK TO US.
WELL I THINK THE COUNCIL GOVERNOR, THEY, THEY REALLY WANNA HELP.
STEVE, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS.
WELL, THEY, THEY REALLY WANT MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS ONE IS DONE RIGHT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLUS WE HAVE NOW WE CAN, WE CAN SPEND, YOU KNOW, UH, MONEY WITH OTHER CONSULTANTS AND THINGS LIKE THIS AND, AND WE ULTIMATELY MAY WIND UP HAVING TO DO THAT.
I THINK AT THIS STAGE WE PROCEED ALONG, DO IT RIGHT ONE TIME.
IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY, WE'LL DO IT RIGHT.
ANY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA.
I KNOW, UH, WE, SOME OF US HAVE A FUNERAL.
WE WERE GONNA TRY TO ATTEND THIS MORNING, I THINK, UH, IF YOU WISH TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON, ON THE, UH, TODAY WE DO.