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TEXAS.

SO IF YOU'LL JOIN ME AND LORI, WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE TODAY AS WE STAND HERE TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY AND THE VOTERS THAT PUT US HERE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

WE ASK, UH, YOUR GUIDANCE FOR OUR STATE LEGISLATURES AS WELL AS THEY DO THE STATE'S BUSINESS AND THE GUIDANCE OF OUR, UH, LAWMAKERS IN WASHINGTON THAT WE PRAY.

THEY DO SOMETHING FOR US THIS TIME.

AND, UH, WE ASK FOR THE, THE GOOD HEALTH OF ALL THE CITIZENS.

AND JESUS, WE PRAY, P FOR ALLEGIANCE THROUGH THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG, UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS ONE SAVED I GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY TODAY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

MR. WOODY, YOU'RE HERE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.

YES, THE COMMUNICATION.

OKAY, WE'LL JUST WAIT FOR THAT, THAT TIME.

ALRIGHT, THE, UH, FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

THE ONLY ITEM I HAD, UH, WELL, I'VE ALREADY PASSED OUT THIS MORNING, AND THAT WAS A NEWSPAPER CONCERN.

THE, UH, UH, GUN RANGE IS ONE, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE COPIES OF THAT, THAT INFORMATION ITEM.

THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA, AND WE HAVE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 11TH, 2013, UH, MEETING.

UH, ITEM B IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PLANNING THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2013, THE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION AND AWARENESS MONTH IN TON COUNTY.

IMC IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER GRANTING FROM, UH, PERMISSION TO ONE OH STERLING THREE, UH, PIPELINE COMPANY CONSTRUCTION, A 16 INCH DOWN GAS LEAK WITH PIPELINE ACROSS AND UNDER KAMAN COUNTY ROAD 3 38 AND CAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE.

THAT WAS ROAD THAT WE INADVERTENTLY LEFT OFF LAST MONTH'S AGENDA, OUR LAST MEETING AGENDA.

SO WE'VE, UH, ADDED THAT ON THERE JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INCOMPLETE, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH THAT ITEM NUMBER D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING SERVICES DISTRICT ON BOARD NUMBER THREE FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.

AND THEN, UH, ITEM NUMBER E IS, OR LETTER E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE 2012 FINANCIAL REPORT FOR COUNTY ESD NUMBER THREE ABOUT ANY THOSE.

MAY I ENTERTAIN A MOTION? UH, MR. SHANE MAKES A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND, UH, MR. MANNY, SECONDS ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHTY.

UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, PAM, IF YOU WOULD, UH, COME UP, UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PARTICIPATING IN THE ENCORE CLEAR RESULTS ENERGY SAVINGS REBATE LIGHTING RETROFIT PROGRAM FOR COUNTY FACILITIES.

AND AS A KIND OF A WAY OF A REMINDER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT NOW OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

AND COMMISSIONER SHANE AND COMMISSIONER, I'M NOT SURE Y'ALL GOT A COPY OF THAT STUDY.

THIS GROUP CAME IN AND DID FOR US SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, BUT I, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU NEED IT.

BUT THEY MADE, UH, SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UH, PAM IS OUR, UH, DESIGNATED ENERGY MANAGER FOR THE, UH, COUNTY.

AND, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING SHE'S REALLY WORKED HARD ON, SO I'LL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION, I'LL LET HER GO OVER THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU.

IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR CHART THAT WE HAVE IN YOUR HANDOUT, UM, WHAT THEY DO IS, UM, CLEAR RESULTS COME BY.

THEY LOOK AT OUR LIGHTING, THEY, UM, TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE OUT.

THEN ENCORE WILL COME THROUGH AND THEY'LL ALSO DO A CHECK.

SO THE COURTHOUSE HAS BEEN CHECKED TWICE AND IT'S CLEAR TO BE, TO BE UPGRADED, UM, IF YOU SHOW C TWO, BUT WE HAD 363 LOTS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED IN THE COURTHOUSE.

CHANGING THOSE LOTS FROM T 12, WHICH MOST OF THEM ARE NOW TO T EIGHT IN ONE YEAR'S TIME, COULD SAVE US $7,209 AND 6 CENTS AN ESTIMATED COST.

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NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP, IT SAYS COST PER FIXTURE AND THEN COST PER PAY, EXCUSE ME, REPLACING THE BALLAST IN THE BULBS.

OUR COST REPLACING THE WHOLE FIXTURE.

DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S $10,278 AND 12 CENTS REPLACE EVERY BALLAST IN BULB THAT WE ARE, THAT, UM, ENCORE SAYS WE SHOULD REPLACE.

THEN ON THE RIGHT, ON THE NEXT CALL THAT SAID TO REPLACE THE WHOLE FIXTURES IS ALMOST 25,000.

JUST KIND DON'T ESTIMATE THAT.

UM, THE PROGRAM THAT CLEAR RESULTS HAS IS WITH ENCORE, AND IT'S AN INCENTIVE.

SO IF WE COME IN AND WE REPLACE, JUST LIKE THEY'VE ASKED, WE WOULD HAVE AN INCENTIVE.

WE WOULD RECEIVE THE CHECK WITHIN FOUR TO FIVE WEEKS OF $6,438 WOULD BE MAILED TO US AFTER WE CHANGE.

AND THEN WITHIN A YEAR WE WOULD SEE A, A CHANGE IN OUR ENERGY BILL OF SAVINGS OF THAT SEVEN.

SO IT ALMOST PAYS FOR ITSELF IN THE FIRST YEAR.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS VERY CLEAR ON THAT OR NOT.

IS THIS, UH, AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, PAM SAYS TOTAL COST REPLACING BALLAST AND LAMPS.

IS THAT PARTS ON OR IS THAT PARTS IN THE PARTS ONLY AND IN THE COURTHOUSE, BECAUSE OF THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF OUR COURTHOUSE, WE NEED TO DO THAT ON MOST OF THE LAMPS.

UM, IN THE COURTROOMS, IN THE CORRIDORS, IN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, IN THE COURTROOMS. BUT, BUT I WENT AHEAD AND DID WHOLE FIXTURES TOO.

AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN US JUST CHANGING OUT THE BALLAST AND THE BULBS OR THE LAMPS ARE DOING THE WHOLE FIXTURES.

NOW IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND, UM, FOR US, WE DEFINITELY, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE MEN AND THEN OUR TRUSTEES WILL BE HELPING US WITH THE PROCESS.

IT COULD TAKE US JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO CHANGE OUT THOSE DIFFERENT FIXTURES THAN IT WOULD'VE PUT A WHOLE FIXTURE IN.

BUT THE SAVINGS IS REALLY GOOD.

YOU SAID THAT WOULD REPLACE THE LAMPS THAT WE NEED.

IS, IS THAT NOT ALL OF THE LAMPS? THERE, THERE WERE A HANDFUL THAT WON'T HAVE TO BE REPLACED THAT WERE ALREADY T EIGHT BULBS.

WAS THEY JUST THE BULBS REPLACED OR THE ENTIRE FIXTURES? UM, I GUESS THAT WAS SOME, UH, UPGRADED LIGHTING THAT HAD HAPPENED WITHIN THE PAST FEW YEARS.

AND THEY WENT AHEAD AND WENT WITH A T EIGHT AND IT WAS JUST IN A FEW OF THE OFFICES AND I'VE TAKEN THEM OFF OF HERE.

IT WAS, UM, ONE IT, SO IT'D BE 13 PLUS THE FIVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST A HANDFUL OF 'EM THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE REPLACED.

SO WHERE ARE THE, WHERE ARE YOU PURCHASING THE, THE, UH, FIXTURES AND THE LAMPS OR VALVES? THIS IS JUST AN ESTIMATED COST.

WE'LL HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT FOR A BID WITH THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS, CORRECT? OBJECT, OBJECTION WORK.

THAT'S A BUDGET FIGURE.

WE'LL SECURE BETTER.

THE LABOR COSTS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN ANY OF THIS.

NO, SIR.

HAVE WE GOT AN IDEA WHAT THE LABOR COSTS ARE GONNA BE? I DO NOT.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO, MY PLAN IS WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

WE DO IT HOUSE.

YES.

YES.

SO, SO HAVING OUR TWO MAINTENANCE MET AND OUR TRUSTEES, WE DON'T HAVE TO USE LICENSED ELECTRICIANS.

YES, I CHECK WITH LARRY ON THAT.

WE DO NOT KNOW CHANGING OUT LIGHT BULBS AND, UH, BALANCE.

WE DO NOT.

BUT IF YOU CHANGE THE FIXTURES, WOULD YOU HAVE TO HAVE I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE FIXTURES.

YEAH.

BUT RIGHT NOW, UNLESS WE RUN INTO A FIXTURE THAT'S JUST FALLING APART OR SO PROBABLY AFTER THEY PUT IN HALF A DOZEN OR MORE OF THESE, IT MAY TAKE THEM AN HOUR TO PUT IN THE FIRST HALF A DOZEN AFTER THAT PROBABLY DROPPED TO 30, 45 MINUTES I WOULD THINK.

MM-HMM .

WE HAVE WALKED THROUGH ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE COUNTY OWNS RIGHT NOW, EXCEPT FOR THE JUVENILE PROBATION.

I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN HERE FOR YOU.

BUT YOU CAN SEE ON, UM, THE NEXT PAGE THAT YOU HAVE.

IT SHOWS THE INCENTIVES FOR EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

AND I DO NOT HAVE THE, UM, ESTIMATED SAVINGS ON THOSE WRITTEN OUT FOR YOU, UM, YET, BUT I CAN GET THAT DONE IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND DO ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS AT ONE TIME.

WE DO HAVE A DEADLINE OF OCTOBER THE 15TH TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE OUR INCENTIVES.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR WORK DONE BY OCTOBER 15TH.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT TO BE A PROBLEM.

WE MAY JUST CHOOSE WHAT BUILDINGS THE MEN, UM, FEEL THAT THEY CAN GET TO FIRST AND THEN DO THE NEXT ONES AND THE NEXT GO AROUND.

THE WORK HAS TO BE COMPLETED.

IT'S NOT JUST STARTED BY OCTOBER 15TH.

EVERYTHING HAS TO BE COMPLETED.

AND MY FINAL WALKTHROUGH AGAIN, UM, WHEN EVERYTHING'S DONE, THEN I HAVE ENCORE THAT HAS TO WALK BACK THROUGH AND THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S BEEN DONE CORRECTLY.

WELL, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS.

WE GET THAT ALL DONE.

IT IS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE INCIDENTS FOR THE OTHER BUILDINGS, IT IS TOO.

IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE STUDY, WHEN THE PEER RESULTS CAME IN AND DID THE STUDY, THE COURTHOUSE WAS JUST OFF THE CHARTS AS FAR AS JUST THE AMOUNT OF POWER IT USED.

IT WAS JUST, IT WAS KIND OF THE ENERGY HALL OF THE WHOLE

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COUNTY.

SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE'LL FOCUS FURTHER, WHICH START SEEING, HOPEFULLY SEEING SOME IMMEDIATE SAVINGS DOING THAT.

BUT IT SHOULD BE A, SHOULD BE A GOOD PROGRAM FOR US.

WE'LL JUST NEED TO GET GUYS STARTED ON IT AS SOON AS WE CAN.

AND, UH, UH, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OTHER FACILITIES AS, AS WE CAN.

THIS 363 FIXTURES, THAT MM-HMM.

YOU SAID YOU THINK IT'D TAKE FOUR, FIVE MINUTES OR SO, THEREABOUT, I'M NO ELECTRICIAN AND I WALK ONE OUT 34 5 MINUTES.

DEPENDS ON HOW FAR I GOT TO LADDERS.

MANY STAIRS YOU HAVE.

AND ALSO HAVING THE TRUSTEES THERE TO SAY THAT LEG, YOU KNOW, THAT LEG ROOM WHERE THEY'RE JUST HANDING THE BULBS TO THEM AND BE ABOUT 250 OR SO? YEAH.

AND THE THING WE'LL GET INTO IS SOME THE COURTROOMS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO SCHEDULE THE RAMP HEARINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO SOME OF THIS MAY ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE DONE AFTER HOURS ON OR SOMETHING.

SO WE HAVE MOST THE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN, UM, ON THE COURTHOUSE, PAM? WHERE UH, WELL ACTUALLY THE SENATOR HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU MADE OVER HERE.

THAT IS IF WE PUT IN, UM, THE SENSORS AS YOU WALK IN, AND THAT'S A VERY HIGH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T REALLY HIGH IN OUR NUMBERS.

YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE IN THERE, BUT THE INCENTIVES OF COMING IN AND PUTTING THE FIXTURES THAT HAVE THE EYES IN THEM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO, BUT MAYBE DO THE LIGHT SWITCHES THAT HAS THE, THE, UM, EYE IN IT.

SO WHEN NO ONE'S BEEN IN THAT ROOM FOR SO LONG, THE LIGHTS WILL GO OFF AND SAVE THAT IN ENERGY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU WALK BACK IN YOUR ROOM, THE LIGHT COME ON, THAT OS AND NO OS MM-HMM .

THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE, UH, ESTIMATION $6,400.

IT WELL, IT, THAT'S AN INCENTIVE IN THE SAVINGS.

IN THE SAVINGS AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THIS IS, I, THIS IS THE SECOND CHECK, THE PRICE.

THE NUMBER THAT I GAVE YOU IS THE INFORMATION THAT I JUST GOT IN.

SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OLDER INFORMATION IN THE PACKET IS THE, THE 6,400 INCENTIVE FOR DOING THE COURTHOUSE IS TO REPLACE THE BALANCE AND BOLTS.

THIS ESTIMATED 85 INCENTIVE IS FOR THE SENSORS AND, AND THE LIGHTS OR SENSORS ALONE.

THE SENSORS ON THE OS.

OKAY.

AND THE NO SENSORS ON THE, UM, AND THE OTHER ONE SAYS NO OS WHAT DOES THE OA STAND FOR? THAT THE LIGHT.

THE LIGHT THAT'S, THAT COMES OUT.

SO IF YOU HAVE IT THEN YOU, YOU MIGHT HAVE A BETTER INCENTIVE BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT, UM, THAT IT'S GONNA BE TURNED OFF AND ON.

BUT WE DID NOT TALK ABOUT THIS PAGE BECAUSE THAT'S TALKING ABOUT A T FIVE AND OUR LAMPS OVER HERE ARE T EIGHT AND IT'S THE 64.

I ASSUME THIS WOULD BE THE 6,400.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THE INCIDENT.

SO THE, THE SENSORS ARE NOT GONNA BE THAT GREAT OF A HELPER WOULD BE GREAT.

THEY WOULD BE, UM, THE FIXTURE ITSELF WOULD COST A LOT MORE TO PUT IN.

SO JUST DOING THE BALLAST AND BULBS AND, AND AND PUTTING OUR OWN SENSORS IN WOULD PROBABLY SAVE US MONEY DOWN INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BUY A FIXTURE THAT ALREADY HAD THE I IN IT AND DOING A FULL NEW FIXTURE.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? WHAT IS THE COST? I DUNNO.

I DIDN'T COST IT THAT WAY BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE LIGHT SWITCH.

BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU DO HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT THING, PEOPLE WILL COME LIGHTS OUT.

YOU REALLY HAVEN'T GOT WHAT YOU NEED TO BE YEAH, WE'RE GOING START LITTLE INITIATIVE ON ASKING PEOPLE TO TURN OUT LIGHTS.

ONE OF THE THINGS, IF YOU WOULD WALK AROUND, SOMETIMES I WALK OUT THIS ROOM WHERE A MEETING'S BEEN HELD AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE THE LIGHTS ON.

SO WE, WE REALLY NEED TO WORK WITH ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ABOUT WHEN THEY LEAVE THE ROOM LIGHTS, ANYTIME THEY'RE GONNA BE OUT YOUR OFFICE FOR ANY YEAH.

OUR COMPUTERS OFF AT NIGHT AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS WE CAN DO.

AND SO PAM'S GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT WE'RE GONNA, UH, PROBABLY SOMETIME THE NEXT FEW DAYS I GONNA SEND OUT AN EMAIL OR MAYBE WE'LL PUT IT IN EVERYBODY'S, UH, PAY PAYCHECK, UH, NOTICE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO CONSERVE ENERGY AND THEY CAN HELP US BY JUST TAKING CARE OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL WORK AREA.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME, SOME SAVINGS THERE TOO.

IT IS A, YEAH, IT IS A, YOU KNOW, IT SAVES US MONEY AND IT GETS US A GRADED LIGHTING AND PROBABLY BETTER LIGHTING IN SOME AREAS.

IT IS, THE LIGHTING IS MUCH BETTER

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FOR YOUR EYES.

UM, IT WON'T BE QUITE AS RIGHT.

BUT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE BETTER DOCUMENT.

ALRIGHT, GOOD.

IN THIS FIRST, THE MOTION, I GUESS WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT DOING, UH, AS MANY OF THESE LOTS, BUGS AND BALLOTS AS WE CAN FOR THIS FIRST REBATE PROGRAM.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I, WE, WE'VE GOT ALL, YOU'VE GOT THE SECOND PAGE THERE WHERE IT LIST ALL THE ROOM AND ALL THE AREAS WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO.

RIGHT.

AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING, BUT THAT IS STILL JUST A BALLIN LAMP, RIGHT? YES.

IS THE WORD.

IF, IF THAT'S WHAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CHOOSE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BALLAST AND THE LAMPS AND THE WHOLE FIXTURES IS SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE THAT I THINK THE BALLIN AND LAMPS WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO.

AND ON THE VERY BACK PAGE, IT SHOWS YOU HOW MANY FIXTURES ARE IN THE OTHER OFFICES THAT WE VISITED.

SO IT HAS YOUR, UM, WHERE WE WENT TO YOUR PRECINCT AND LOOKED AT IT AND YOUR BARNS AND YOUR OFFICES.

AND I CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH THE SAVINGS PER KILOWATT HOUR FOR YOU AND EMAIL THAT TO EACH OF YOU SO YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE SAVINGS THE FIRST YEAR WOULD BE.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE I HAVE NUMBER FOR NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, CONSIDER PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROGRAM.

I MOVE, HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MANNY MAKES A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM LLOYD LAURIE WHO IS HERE WITH US THIS MORNING, OUR HR DIRECTOR TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WELLNESS PROVOST FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

I WAS JUST ASKED TO AN UPDATE ON OUR, UM, ASSESSMENTS AND WHERE WE ARE.

THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT IS THE QUESTIONNAIRE THAT THE EMPLOYEES CAN FILL OUT, UM, WHERE THEY GET A $25 GIFT CARD FOR FILLING OUT THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT.

AND THEN THE COUNTY RECEIVES $25 FOR EACH EMPLOYEE THAT THE, THAT FILLS OUT THAT HEALTH ASSESSMENT AND THEN THAT MONEY GOES INTO OUR HEALTHY COUNTY FUND FOR US TO USE FOR INCENTIVES FOR, TO MAKE THE COUNTY HEALTHY, UM, FOR VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE CHOOSE TO DO.

UM, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, Y'ALL GOT THE REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S UM, THERE'S A FEW OFFICES THAT HAVE COMPLETED A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO OFFICE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE, THE VETERAN SERVICE, THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, INDIGENT HEALTH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, PROJECT MANAGER, CONSTABLE PRECINCT, 3D PS, THE TAX OFFICE IN CARROLL, THE TAX OFFICE IN KEMP.

THE ECO STATION IN KEMP AND HUMAN RESOURCES ARE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

UM, THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT FORD IS AT 82% AND THESE ARE JUST KIND OF ESTIMATES.

THE TAX OFFICE, UM, IN THE ANNEX IS AT 77%.

THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS AT 60%.

THE EXTENSION OFFICE, THE TAX OFFICE IN FORNEY.

AND THE TREASURER OFFICE IS AT 50%.

THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS AT 48%.

UM, THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW, COUNTY COURT AT LAW NUMBER TWO, DISTRICT CLERK, UH, FOUR 22ND, UM, IT AND BYRON MARSHALL'S OFFICE IS AT 33% PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

PUBLIC WORKS JUVENILE PROBATION, AND THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY IS AT 25%.

THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IS AT 13%.

SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS AT 11%.

COMMISSIONER PRECINCT ONE.

COMMISSIONER PRECINCT THREE IS AT 8%.

AND ADULT PROBATION PURCHASING DEPARTMENT LIBRARY, CHILDREN'S SHELTER 86.

DISTRICT COURT CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE JP ONE CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO, JP TWO, JP THREE, CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOUR AND JP FOUR ARE AT 0%.

AND THIS WAS AS OF MARCH 9TH.

OUR REPORT AS OF MARCH 9TH.

AND SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE EARNED $2,850, UM, WITH 114 EMPLOYEES COMPLETING THAT.

AND LAST YEAR, UM, AT THE END.

AND OUR DEADLINE IS MARCH 31ST THAT WE HAVE FOR, TO RECEIVE THE MONEY.

AND UM, LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED 2,725 FOR BOTH THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT AND THE SONIC ROOM COMBINED.

SO WE'RE UP $125 AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT.

SO WE'RE DOING REALLY GOOD.

WHAT WAS THE FAILURE FOR LAST YEAR? IT WAS, UH, 2,725.

AND THAT'S FOR THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT AND THE SONIC BOOM, WHICH WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED THE SONIC BOOM YET.

SO DOING GOOD, WE REALLY NEED TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO MM-HMM .

GET ONLINE AND

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FILL THAT OUT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I DON'T WANNA DO IT 'CAUSE IT'S NOT CONFIDENTIAL OR, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS ALL CONFIDENTIAL.

IT ALL GOES TO YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE.

LIKE WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET ANY INFORMATION.

IT DOESN'T COME TO US.

WE DON'T GET, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OR, OR ANY OF THE ANSWERS.

AND WE'RE WILLING TO HELP ANYBODY THAT NEEDS HELP LOGGING INTO IT.

UM, WE'VE HAD COMPLAINTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL ME ALL THE TIME IF I ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

AND THE ONLY WAY THAT NURSES WILL CALL YOU OR COACH WILL CALL YOU IS IF YOU TELL THEM TO, ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE YOU PUT ON THERE HOW YOU WANT TO BE CONTACTED OR IF YOU WANNA BE CONTACTED.

SO IT'S THE EMPLOYEE TELLING THEM THAT THEY WANNA BE CONTACTED.

SO I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE 114 OUT OF OUR 500 EMPLOYEES AND MAYBE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT TO THEM JUST BY FILLING NAP, YOU GET A 25 GIFT CARD, THAT'S GOOD.

GO TOM MAY GO TO BED, BED, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF PLACES THOSE GIFT CARD IS GOOD AT.

AND I'LL PROBABLY GO, WOW, S ON THERE AND FILLING OUT, YOU GET THE $25 GIFT CARD AND WE'VE SENT OUT MULTIPLE REMINDERS.

WE'VE SENT OUT STUFF IN THE PAYCHECK WE'VE SENT OUT.

I SENT OUT MULTIPLE EMAILS.

CASSIE SENT OUT EMAILS, SO I KNOW THEY'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THEM TAKING 20 MINUTES TO LOG IN TO DO IT.

SO, I MEAN, WE CAN'T MAKE 'EM DO IT.

WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO IT.

IT'S JUST FOR WANT TWO.

SO, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE UNTIL MARCH 31ST DEADLINE.

THAT'S PRETTY WEEK.

THAT'S WEEK.

NEXT WEEK.

YEP.

IS THERE, UH, BESIDES SOME OF THE, UH, THINGS YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED AS TO WHY PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT TO DO THAT, UH, RIGHT, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S A SMALL NUMBER IN AND THE, SO THAT'S DOING THIS.

IS THERE A REASON THAT YOU HEAR FROM THE EMPLOYEES WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS OR? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING PERSONALLY, BUT WE HAVE PUT THE INFORMATION EVERY TIME WE GET SOMETHING, WE PUT IT OUT EITHER, YOU KNOW, POSTING MEMOS, WE'VE GOT, UH, OUR EMAILS WE'VE GOT FROM THE JAILERS, WE'VE GOT THEIR, WE HAVE PUT IT EVERYWHERE WE CAN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO GET ON THIS PROGRAM.

SOME PEOPLE SAID THEY JUST WON'T WANNA DO IT, BUT I, I HADN'T HEARD ANY DRIVE.

LAURIE CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY AND WE HAD PUT IT OUT.

WE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COME BY AND WE'LL SET COMPUTERS UP FOR YOU TO DO IT AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED.

AND WE'VE GONE OUT TO SEVERAL OFFICES AND HELPED WHERE WE COULD AND YOU KNOW, AND WE WERE WILLING, CASSIE AND I ARE WILLING TO COME OUT WHEREVER WE NEED TO, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T, NO ONE'S CALLED TO HAVE US COME OUT.

SO, AND WE'VE HELPED SEVERAL BOYS OVER THE PHONE IF THEY COULD GET IN OR THEY'VE HAD TROUBLE LOGGING IN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HELPED THEM GET LOCKED IN IF THEY NEEDED TO.

SO, AND I THINK IT'S JUST, IF THEY DON'T DO IT, UM, LIKE WITH A LOT OF THE DETENTION OFFICERS, THEY CAN'T DO IT AT WORK.

SO BY THIS TIME THEY GET HOME AND MAY FORGET ABOUT IT OR SOMETHING.

AND SO I THINK THAT, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE A GOOD MAJORITY THAT DON'T, THEY CAN'T DO IT WHILE THEY'RE AT WORK, SO BY THE TIME THEY GET HOME THEY MAY FORGET ABOUT IT.

SO I THINK THAT MAY BE A LOT TO DO WITH LIKE THE DETENTION OFFICER.

WE'VE OFFERED IT UP FRONT BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE INTERNET ACCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BACK, BACK AREA.

YEAH.

BUT WE'VE OFFERED IT UP FRONT.

ANYBODY WANTS TO COME UP, WE WON'T GET INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM.

AND THIS YEAR THEY'RE OFFERING THE, BECAUSE LAST YEAR BEFORE THEY WERE JUST OFFERING THE POINTS AND SO THERE WASN'T MUCH OF AN INCENTIVE.

I MEAN, THIS YEAR YOU'RE GETTING A 25 GIFT CARD GIFT THAT'S FOR YOU TO USE AT ANY OF THE LISTS THAT YOU CHOOSE.

SO THERE'S MORE OF AN INCENTIVE FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO DO IT AS, AS, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE STILL HAVE THIS WEEK BASICALLY TO GET IT DONE.

SO AS YOU SEE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW AROUND, IN FACT WE HAVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENT HEADS, ELECTED OFFICIALS HERE TODAY.

GO BACK AND ENCOURAGE TO DO I'LL, THERE'S A COUPLE ON HERE, I'LL JUDGE CHIEF'S OFFICE I KNOW HE NEEDS, SO I'LL MAKE, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S AS OF THE NINTH.

SO THEY MAY HAVE DONE IT, WE JUST CAN'T GET THE, AS THEY HAD IT.

SO THEY MAY HAVE DONE IT SINCE THEN AND WE JUST DUNNO.

THAT'S WHY TOO.

BUT IT'S NOT MANDATORY.

YOU CAN'T MAKE THEM DO IT.

WE JUST NEED TO REMIND THAT THEY DO IT.

GOOD THING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE.

ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER DOESN'T TAKE ANY APPROVAL.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, IS KATHY MORRIS WHO PRESENT US THE PUBLIC WORKS REPORT FEBRUARY, 2013.

OKAY, THIS TIME I HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.

UM, THEY WERE 13TH IN

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FEBRUARY AND BY PRECINCT IT WAS PRECINCT ONE.

WE HAD THREE PRECINCT, THREE HAD ONE, AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD NONE.

PRECINCT TWO DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS.

WE HAD, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK HAD ASKED ME LAST TIME TO BREAK IT DOWN BY PRECINCT BY TWO US, SO IT'S GONNA LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON, UH, FOR TOTAL COMPLAINTS WE HAD 143 AND 114 OF THOSE WERE FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS.

26 WERE MALFUNCTIONS AND THREE WERE FOR MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS BY PRECINCT THERE WAS 55 IN PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT TWO THERE WERE 43 PRECINCT THREE, THERE WERE 13 IN PRECINCT FOUR, THERE WERE 32.

AND THE COURT CASES WE FILED, WE ENDED UP FILING 31.

SO WE DID GET COMPLIANCE FOR QUITE A FEW OF THOSE NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS.

THERE WERE ONLY 27 OF THOSE THAT WERE FILED AND ONE WAS MALFUNCTION AND THREE WERE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS.

AND BY PRECINCT THERE WAS PRECINCT ONE HAD EIGHT, PRECINCT TWO HAD 14, AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD SIX.

THERE WERE NONE IN PRECINCT THREE.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE TOTALS DON'T MATCH UP.

AND THE REASON THEY DON'T IS I DID NOT PUT IN THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING STRICTLY THAT WE DEAL WITH.

IT'S NOT A HOMEOWNER ISSUE.

SO I DIDN'T PUT THOSE IN TOTALS, BUT THREE PRECINCTS, UM, THAT THERE A FOLLOW UP TO REAL TOTAL OF 56 THAT KEN HAD TO GO OUT AND FOLLOW UP ON IT.

NOW WE FINALLY GOT A REPORT FROM COG AND IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, BUT ACTUALLY IT IS GOOD.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME.

WE ACTUALLY ARE AT 98%.

THEY HAVE CHANGED THE PARAMETERS TO WHERE WE'RE DRILLING DOWN TO DO LITTLE POLYGON POLYGONS.

SO WHERE YOU SEE A COUNTY MAP AND IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU SEE THE WHOLE COUNTY MAP.

WHEN WE WORKED ON IT BEFORE, IT WAS LIKE 50%.

WE GOT THE, GOT THE ROADS DONE AND GOT THE BOUNDARIES DONE AND GOT THE, THE CENTER, THE POINTS ON THE HOUSE IS DONE.

NOW THEY'VE CHANGED IT TO WHERE YOU'RE ZOOMING INTO LIKE 10%.

YOU'RE GETTING EVERYTHING FEET OF CORRECTING BOUNDARY LINES, ROAD LINES AT THE HOUSE POINTS.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY STARTING BACK ZERO AND DOING IT AGAIN, ALL CORRECTIONS AGAIN.

THAT'S WHY THE PERCENTAGES DO NOT LOOK GOOD.

THEY ARE, BUT THEY'RE NOT IS THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.

UM, THEY'VE ALSO ADDED ONE MORE THING THAT WE HAVE TO CORRECT IN THIS OTHER PHASE IS WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH WHAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED AS STREET BOUNDARIES, WHICH, WHICH ARE CALLED M SACS, IT'S ROAD RANGE.

THEY'RE NOT MATCHING UP WITH THE GIS THE, THE AVERAGE POINTS ON THE GIS.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WITH THE MSA IS IS WHAT WHAT GETS ESTABLISHED BY US AND THEN IT GOES TO COG, COG GIVES IT TO THE PHONE COMPANY.

SO WHEN SOMEBODY MOVES IN THAT THEY WANT A PHONE NUMBER, THE PHONE COMPANY SAID, YEAH, YOUR ADDRESS THAT YOU'RE GIVING US IS WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES.

AND SO THEY CAN HAVE A PHONE NUMBER.

WELL LIKE SOME OF 'EM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE FOUND OTHER DAY ON BARNES LANE.

BARNES LANE IS ONE STRAIGHT ROAD.

IT GOES FROM A TO B, NO BREAKS IN IT, NO NOTHING.

FOR SOME REASON THE MSA IS SHOWING THAT IT BREAKS ABOUT THUNDER ROAD AND THEN IT STARTS UP AGAIN.

SO THAT'S JUST A CORRECTION THAT WE'RE HAVING TO GO IN AND MAKE THE REPORTS.

AND THE WAY THEY DO IT NOW HAS GOTTEN TO THAT DETAIL TO WHERE WE HAVE TO GO IN AND MAKE ALL THESE LITTLE BITTY MINUTE CORRECTIONS IN REPORT TO CORRECT.

THEY'VE ALSO GOT IT DOWN TO WHERE IF YOU'RE IN AN OFFICE BUILDING, SOMEBODY SAY HERE IN JOHNNY COUNTRY'S OFFICE PICKS UP PHONE CALLS NINE ONE ONE.

THEY CAN GET IT THAT DETAILED.

SO THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, WHEN THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION FOR THE 9 1 1, THEY'LL KNOW TO GO TO THAT OFFICE.

THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND PHASE IS GOING.

SO THE PERCENTAGES DON'T LOOK GOOD, BUT THEY REALLY ARE.

SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY MOVES INTO A PLACE AND DOES NOT GET A LANDLINE CELL PHONE, THEN EVERYTHING, YOU'VE GOT YOUR CELL PHONES, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DO CELL PHONES NOWADAYS, LANDLINE TELEPHONES ARE GOING AWAY.

MOST PEOPLE USE CELL PHONES.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE, THEY'VE MIGRATED TO USING GIS INSTEAD OF A LAND LIKE THIS.

THE WAY IT DOES IS SOMEBODY CALLS 9 1 1 FROM THEIR, FROM THEIR CELL PHONE.

EVERYTHING'S GOT GPS WITH IT, IT'S GONNA GO INTO THE PHONE COMPANY AND LET THE ANSWER BY PHONE GO THROUGH THE PHONE COMPANY AND WHERE THEIR LA LONG COORDINATES ARE OR WHERE THAT PERSON IS.

IT'LL GO THROUGH THE COMPUTERS, IT'LL SWITCH IT TO THE PSAP, WHICH IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

WHEN IT SHOWS UP THERE, IT WILL SHOW THE EXACT ADDRESS WHERE THEY'RE AT.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING HAS TO BE THROUGH THE GIS.

EVERYTHING HAS TO BE EXACTLY CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, KATHY ON HER REPORT? LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE, UH, THE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU GOT FOR MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

YES.

IT'S NOT A MATTER OF PUBLIC EDUCATION.

UM, THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS A

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LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS GET THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS TO US LATE.

SO WHAT I DO IS, IS TRISHA GETS ALL THE PAPERWORK READY, I GO THROUGH IT AND I HAVE TO RUN TO FIND DRIVER'S LICENSES AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE STILL LIVE THERE, PULL UP THE PRISON DISTRICT RECORDS.

AND WHEN I DO THAT, I GET THAT PART OF THE CASE READY TO SUBMIT TO THE COURT.

AND WHEN I DO THAT, I ALSO GENERATE A LETTER TO THE HOMEOWNER TELLING THEM THAT WE DID NOT GET A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FROM THEM AND NINE TIMES OUTTA 10, IT'S NOT THE HOMEOWNER'S FAULT, IT'S THEIR MAINTENANCE PROVIDER THAT DID NOT GET US THE CONTRACT.

SO WE KIND OF HOLD THE COMPLAINTS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO LET THESE PEOPLE GET HOLD OF THEIR MAINTENANCE PROVIDER TO GET US SENT US BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DO FILING COURT.

HOW MUCH LEAD TIME DO YOU GIVE BEFORE YOU SEND THE LETTER OUT? I MEAN, DO YOU WAIT UNTIL AFTER, AFTER MONTH? WAIT UNTIL AFTER, AFTER, AFTER, AFTER, AFTER, AFTER COMPLIANCE OR YES.

PRIOR TO AFTER.

YES.

YES.

BUT EVERY, EVERY, WE DID THIS EVERY MONTH.

SO THE RULES SAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT IN EFFECT CONTINUOUSLY THE MONTH THAT THAT EXPIRES.

IF THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT TO US BY THE LAST DAY OF THAT MONTH, THEN TRICIA RUNS REPORT, GETS ALL THE COMPLAINTS READY AND WE GENERATE THAT THE LETTER TO WITHIN, PROBABLY WITHIN A WEEK AFTER THE END OF THE MONTH.

WE GIVE 'EM A LITTLE LEEWAY BECAUSE NINE, LIKE I SAID, NINE TIMES OUTTA 10.

IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT, IT'S THEIR MAINTENANCE PROVIDED WITH NEGLECTED ATTORNEY CONTRACT.

IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THEM COMPLY AFTER WE GET THE LETTER, THEY DO OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

UH, EXCEPT THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS REPORT AS SUBMITTED.

SOME MADE.

MR. MANNY MAKES THAT MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NUMBER SIX US THIS MORNING.

WELCOME TO DISCUSS AND UHM AGRI EXPO ON 25TH THOUSAND 13 AT COUNTY LIBRARY.

WELL, I'M GOING, I'M GOING START FIRST.

OKAY.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE, UH, ROBERT.

HE'S, UH, OF COURSE Y'ALL KNOW ROBERT IS, UH, RUNS THE FARM BUREAU OFFICE HERE IN THE COUNTY AND IS A PARTNER OF OURS.

WE RENT, UH, FROM FARM BUREAU WHERE OUR, UH, OFFICE IS HOUSED.

ROBERT IS THIS YEAR'S CHAIRMAN OF THE LEADERSHIP ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS MADE UP OF ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES FROM, UH, THE AGRICULTURAL FAMILY AND CONSUMER SCIENCE AND FOUR H AREA OF WHAT WE DO.

AND, UH, WE PUT AN EVENT ON EVERY YEAR.

ROBERT'S HERE TO TALK ABOUT.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF STUFF BRUCE, BUT I DO WHAT YOU DO.

I CHAIR THE MEETINGS.

I KNOW THAT, BUT IT IS A GOOD THING.

IT IS MY FIRST TIME TO GET TO STAND FOUR.

YOU SINCE, UH, 2007 WHEN WE ENTERED THIS PARTNERSHIP, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE KAMAN COUNTY FOUR HS SINCE 1961 WHEN I DID MY FIRST PROJECT AS A GARDENER.

UH, SO WE'VE BEEN HAD FOUR H CLUBS IN LIN COUNTY A LONG TIME.

UH, PRETTY COMMITTED TO IT BACK IN THE DAY I USED TO VOLUNTEER TO GO DO JUDGING AND UH, JUDGE THEIR, UH, ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AND THEIR STAR PERFORMER OF THE YEAR AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'D HAVE TO GO OVER TO HIGH STREET IN TAR AND UH, KEN REMEMBERS THAT.

AND WE WOULD GO IN THE SAME DOOR THAT WE WENT INTO.

THE EXTENSION SERVICE WAS THE SAME DOOR THAT THE FELONS WENT INTO TO REPORT FOR PROBATION.

SO, UH, KEN AND RAY WERE ON THE BOARD WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THIS THING.

BASICALLY WE PROVIDE Y'ALL AN OFFICE SPACE AND WE PAY ALL THE UTIL TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE THROUGH THAT PARTNERSHIP, WE DO THE RAINWATER HARVESTING OFF OF OUR GUTTERS OUT THERE AND USE THAT AS A DEMONSTRATION PLACE.

WE'VE GOT GROUND ROLLS GARDEN OUT FRONT THAT THE MASTER GARDENERS DO.

WE DUG A TANK OUT BACK FOR CARE TO USE FOR HER FOUR ACRES.

THEY'VE GOT CATFISH AND THINGS THAT THEY DO IN THERE.

SO IT'S BEEN A REAL GOOD THING FOR THE COUNTY FOR YOU GUYS TO TAKE CREDIT FOR.

UH, NOT MANY COUNTIES HAVE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP LIKE THAT THAT WORKS WELL LIKE THIS.

ALWAYS A DREAM OF MINE.

WANTED TO GET US OUT OF THE DUCK BUILDING NEXT TO THE PIZZA HUT AND THEN, UH, TO HAVE RALPH AND HIS GROUP IN THERE WITH US AND IT'S WORKED OUT SO WELL OVER THE YEARS.

UH, SO I APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT.

I WANT TO INVITE YOU TO AN EVENT ONE MONTH FROM TODAY.

UH, WE USED TO CALL IT INFORMATION DAY.

WE USED TO TRY TO, UH, DO IT AT LUNCHTIME SO YOU GUYS COULD COME AND HAVE LUNCH WITH HIM.

WE FIGURED OUT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.

WOULD WE WOULD'VE TO POST AN AGENDA FOR Y'ALL TO ALL COME HAVE LUNCH WITH US AT ONE TIME BECAUSE WE'D HAVE A MEETING GOING ON.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO A COME AND GO EVENT NEXT MONTH.

THE 25TH YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN, WELL YOU GOT AN INVITATION FROM RALPH JUST NOW, BUT YOU SHOULD GOTTA SAVE THE DATE THING.

IT'S GONNA BE OUT AT THE KAUFMAN LIBRARY.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOUR HS AND MASTER GARDENERS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE DOING THROUGH

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THE LAB, UH, SET UP FOR YOU TO SEE BECAUSE I DO KNOW Y'ALL SPEND SOME MONEY ON ROUTE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO SEE WHERE YOUR MONEY GOES AND FOR US TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION BEYOND OF WHAT YOU DO FOR US.

UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE GOT COMING UP, I HOPE YOU'LL ALSO DO.

WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD PROGRAMS. UH, KATIE IS GOING TO HEAD UP A PROGRAM FOR US CALLED DINNER TONIGHT, THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER.

AND IT'S A NUTRITIONAL PROGRAM TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, UH, COOK MEALS AT HOME AGAIN.

RIGHT? THEY DON'T SAY TELL ME THEY DON'T DO THAT A LOT ANYMORE.

AND WE'RE GONNA ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO NUTRITIONAL MEALS AT HOME AS A FAMILY AND GONNA HAVE, RALPH SAYS, JUDY A CHILD.

Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY ALL OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHERS AREN'T, BUT, UM, IT'S GONNA BE A DEAL WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE.

THEY CAN WATCH LIVE DEMONSTRATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THIS THING ALONG IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.

THE COUNTY HAS CHANGED.

UH, THE FARM BUREAU TRIES TO SUPPORT AGRICULTURE.

AGRICULTURE HAS DISAPPEARED FROM THE COUNTY A LOT EXCEPT IN TOM'S AREA, SOME IN JIM'S AREA AND A LITTLE BIT IN THE OTHER AREAS.

BUT RALPH HAS DONE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'VE HELPED HIM GET IN TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE CORN.

HE DOES A LOT OF THINGS FOR THEIR RIGHT OF WAYS AND STUFF UP THERE ON HOW TO TAKE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YOUR MONEY IS WELL SPENT WITH THESE GUYS.

SO I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL DO.

I HOPE YOU ACCEPT OUR INVITATION TO ATTEND AND SEE WHAT WE DO NEXT MONTH ON THE 25TH AS THE CHILD, UH, THAT GONNA BE PART OF THE EXPO? NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE EXTRA.

WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA FEED YOU SNACKS AND DESSERTS IF THAT, AND I FEEL ALRIGHT, WELL, I WANNA GET MY WIFE INVOLVED, CHILD.

THAT SHOULD BE A GOOD EVENT.

THIS WILL BE BRAND NEW THIS YEAR.

THAT DINNER TONIGHT THING IS A WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE SHIP ADVISORY BOARD IS SPONSORING THAT.

UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE EVENTS, OF COURSE, UH, UH, THE MONEY THAT PUTS THESE THINGS ON COMES READY.

UH, OF COURSE I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL COME TO THE COUNTY HAY SHOW AND Y'ALL BUY A CAKE.

UH, AND THE CAKE AUCTION THAT'S DONE AT THE HAY SHOW, THE MONEY WE GENERATED THAT, UH, THOSE FUNDS GO TO .

AND I MAKE, I MEAN I ENCOURAGE MY SECRETARIES TO COOK CAKES FOR THAT THING EVERY YEAR.

SO PLENTY THOSE THINGS.

SO, UH, ANYWAY, IT'S A GREAT APPRECIATION I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS AND WHAT Y'ALL DO FOR US AND HOPE YOU'LL WITH THIS NEXT MONTH.

AND I FEEL ALRIGHT TELLING YOU WE HAVE DESSERTS AND SNACKS SINCE YOU MADE THE IHOP COMMENT EARLIER.

I MIGHT SAY THAT Y'ALL DID A FINE JOB ENCOURAGING YOUR EMPLOYEES COOK THOSE CATS.

SOME OF THEM ARE HIGH QUALITY YES SIR.

AND WE EAT NOTHING BUT HEALTHY CASE OF COFFEE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AND WE'LL, WE'LL ATTEND ALL.

UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS, UH, HERE FROM JUDGE LEWIS.

CONSIDER THE PURCHASING OF SOME BOOKS FOR THE LAW LIBRARY.

UH, JUDGE, GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING.

WELL, UH, THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I'VE APPEARED, UH, BEFORE COMMISS TO REQUEST, UH, YOUR APPROVAL TO PURCHASE BOOKS.

AND, UH, KIND WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT IN THE, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THERE'S A SECTION ON THE LAW LIBRARY FUND AND IT, UH, IT REMINDED ME WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, COUNTY LAW LIBRARY FUND SHOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY AN UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

WELL, I THINK PRIOR TO, UH, THE TIME THAT I BECAME LAW LIBRARIAN, UH, BOOKS WERE BOUGHT AND SOLD, CONTRACTS WERE ENTERED INTO AND EVERYTHING WAS DONE REALLY WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY.

AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER.

UH, THE, THE BOOKS THAT I'VE REQUESTING ARE WITHIN OUR BUDGET AND, UH, THEY COST $4,300.

IT'S, UH, UH, DARIO'S LITIGATION GUIDE.

AND, UH, MR. DARIO IS A LAW PROFESSOR AT SMU.

HE'S BEEN DOING THIS NOW FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD SET BOOKS.

UH, IF WE BUY IT THIS MONTH, THERE'S A $500 DISCOUNT.

AND I DON'T KNOW, THE PUBLISHING COMPANY MADE THIS LITTLE INCENTIVE OFFER TO US.

UH, AND, UH, MALLORY KIN WORKED IT AROUND WHERE WE COULD GET FREE SHIPPING.

SO, UH, UH, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD SET OF BOOKS.

UH, THE BAR ASSOCIATION MET LAST WEEK AND APPROVED THIS, UH, UH, JOHN LONG WAS THERE AND, AND HE REMEMBERS THE DISCUSSION.

IN FACT, YOU WERE KIND OF ONE OF THE HELPERS STILL.

YEAH, IT, IT, IT'S A OUTSTANDING, IT, IT'S A SHAME THAT ALL LIBRARY BRIDGES MIGHT HAVE THAT SET ALREADY.

WE HAVE, UH, OVER $280,000 IN THAT FUND.

IT CAN ONLY BE SPENT, YOU KNOW, ON BOOKS, UH, AND, UH, ARTICLES

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LIKE THAT CAN'T BE SPENT ANYWHERE ELSE.

UH, SO I, I SUGGEST THAT, UH, FOR THE SECOND TIME THEY REQUEST AND BOOKS TO BE PURCHASED, UH, THAT I THINK ARE WELL WORTHWHILE, THAT WE CAN AFFORD OUR BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I THAT WE WOULD LIKE BEFORE THE COURT, BEFORE COURT BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT SPENDING MONEY.

TELL US ALL WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN DAVID, UH, DID BACK EXPLAIN TO THE COURT WHERE THE MONEY ACTUALLY COMES FROM TO DO THIS WITH THE, UH, THE LOAN LIBRARY.

IT ACTUALLY COSTS ABOUT 80 TO $90,000 A YEAR TO, UH, PURCHASE ALL OF THE, UH, COMPUTERIZED LEGAL RESEARCH PROGRAMS FOR THE JUDGES, THE BOOKS.

AND THAT'S REPLENISHED EVERY YEAR THROUGH COURT COSTS, UH, CASES FILED IN THE COUNTY COURT, DISTRICT COURT.

A SMALL PORTION OF THAT GOES INTO THIS.

SO, UH, I THINK, AS I SAID THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, WE'RE NOT USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

UH, THESE ARE, UH, BUNS THAT ARE PAID IN THE FORM OF COURT COSTS.

OKAY? BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE JUDGE? I DIDN'T HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER ADVERTISING THE REQUEST FOR THE HOLD FOR FOOD SERVICES FOR THE CA COUNTY DETENTION CENTER.

OKAY, MORNING GENTLEMEN.

UH, TIME TO BID OUT OUR, UH, UH, BID AGAIN ON FOOD SERVICES EXPIRES IN JULY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY DATES FOR YOU THIS TIME.

I WANT TO GET PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE AND WE'LL GET THAT OUT SHORTLY.

WHO ARE WE CURRENTLY WITH? UH, FIVE STAR.

FIVE STAR.

THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONLY TWO OR THREE MAJOR COMPANIES TO DO THAT.

WE'LL REACH OUT TO ALL THOSE FOLKS.

FIVE.

ANY QUESTIONS, JACK? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER AL SECONDS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADVERTISING REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR COSTMAN COUNTY JAIL TO THE OPERATION MANAGEMENT.

JIM, THE SAME TYPE OF DEAL, JUST LOOKING FOR PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE THERE.

A DESIRE TO DO THAT.

UH, WORK WITH CHIEF BEAVER, HIS STAFF TO, UH, GET A SCOPE AND ON OUT I TO GET THIS PART DONE.

SO WE'RE READY TO GO WHEN WE WHEN WE GET THAT BACK.

OKAY.

QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IN, UH, IN IF, IF THIS DOES TAKE PLACE, JACK, WILL WE, WE LOSE EMPLOYEES? HOW WORDS WE LOSE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IN KAMAN COUNTY? UH, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN THERE AND RUNS AT IT, THEY GOING BRING IN A CREW FROM OUT OF STATE OR SOMETHING TO RUN OUR, OUR JAIL.

ARE WE GOING GET TO KEEP COMMISSIONER? I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO, TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND MY ROLE JUST TO PUT OUT A DOCUMENT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I'M NOT SURE.

I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR THAT.

MAJORITY OF THE TIME, JUST LOOKING AT THAT COMMISSIONER IS, UH, WHEN WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TAKE ON THAT ROLE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE THERE.

UH, AT THAT POINT I THINK OUR BIG THING IS OUR RP AND HOW WE PUT THAT OUT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD RFP OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING ON OUR EMPLOYEES AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THEY LET THEM GO, THEN IT'S INTO THEIR HANDS.

IT'S, IT'S NOTHING, UH, FOR US TO TALK ABOUT ON THAT POINT.

'CAUSE IT'S THEIR EMPLOYEE.

CAN'T THAT BE PUT IN OUR RFP WHERE, WHERE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPLOYED HERE IN COMAN COUNTY WON'T LOSE COMAN COUNTY JOBS TO SOMEBODY'S COMING IN FROM WHEREVER.

WE CAN ENCOURAGE THAT.

I THINK WE DID THAT ON THE, UH, UH, JAIL, UH, UH, MEDICAL SIDE CONTRACT.

UH, WE ENCOURAGED TO HIRE OUR FOLKS.

YEAH.

AND I THINK THEY DID THAT.

INITIALLY THEY DIDN'T.

BUT WE HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT WAS PARTICULARLY MY PRECINCT.

THERE WERE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT LOST THEIR JOBS OVER THAT DEAL.

PEOPLE FROM OUTTA THE COUNTY.

AND I JUST, I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, OUR PEOPLE LOSING THEIR JOBS TO SOMEBODY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I, I THINK ALL WE CAN DO IS, IS UH, ENCOURAGE THEY DO HIRE OUR FOLKS.

I THINK PART OF THE NEGOTIATION WILL BE PART OF YOUR COST.

WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PAY.

THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE.

WE DON'T WANNA HANDICAP THE COMPANY.

WELL THAT'S TRUE.

WOULDN'T BE BURDEN.

THAT'S TRUE.

BUT I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA BRING

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IN BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO REPLACE OUR PEOPLE'S AND HERE AND HERE AND LOSE THEIR JOB RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOOD BUSINESS PEOPLE.

THEY GONNA LOOK AT ALL THEIR OPTIONS.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'LL COME IN HERE.

JUST THROW THE DOWN SAVVY ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WE WANT THEM TO, WE HAVE QUALIFIED KEEP THEM RIGHT.

THEY'LL KEEP THEM IF THEY'RE WELL QUALIFIED.

I, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

THE DISCUSSION WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE WITH THE COMPANY SURE DO.

I'LL DEFINITELY HAVE IT IN IN THE BID.

OKAY.

BE PART OF IT.

ALRIGHT, OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT ON, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, THAT PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER NIK.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER SIGNING A CONTRACT WITH AUTOMATED TIMEKEEPING, UH, WORKFLOW FOR SOFTWARE AND EQUIPMENT FOR CALL FROM COUNTY AUTOMATED TIME SYSTEM.

JIM, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE, UH, PROPOSAL ON THE AMOUNT OF EQUIPMENT, UH, AND THE METHOD THAT WE'RE GONNA USE COUNTYWIDE TO KEEP TRACK, TIMING, TIME AND PAYROLL.

UH, THIS FEATURE REQUIREMENTS, I'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE AWARD THAT, UH, PENDING, UH, APPROVAL OF CONTRACT BY, BY JOHN LONG.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE DO, UH, SIGNED CONTRACT WITH JOHN'S APPROVAL THAT, UH, IN THIS INITIAL, THIS CONTRACT, INITIAL PAYMENT IS, UH, I'M GONNA ALL THE MONEY AND IT INCLUDES 115 HOURS OF TRAINING AT AN HOUR AND WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, TALKING TO THE WORKLOAD PEOPLE.

IT MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE THAT MUCH TIME.

IF THEY TRY TO TEACH ME HOW TO DO IT, IT'LL TAKE MORE THAN 50.

IF THEY TRY TO TEACH GEORGE HOW TO DO IT, IT MAY NOT TAKE THE 15 HOURS.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS CONTRACT SHOWS IT'S PAID FOR ALL 115 HOURS.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NEGOTIATE THAT PARTY, WE PAY AS WE GO ON THAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER, I HAVE, UH, SPOKE WITH THESE FOLKS AND, UH, WE'VE COME TO AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE PAID 50% DOWN VERSUS, UH, 75.

I'LL SAY.

I'LL SAY THAT.

UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'VE DROPPED THE TRAINING HOURS FROM, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND ONE 60 DOWN TO ONE 15.

UH, THEY COURSE PAYING THE 50% AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT.

WE, WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY MONITOR THAT.

SECOND.

OKAY.

YOU HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, YES.

YOU READY TO GO? UH, SHANE, SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I SAY I I GREG DID THE FIRST YES.

DID YOU WANNA LEAVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PAYING 20 HOURS UP FRONT OR WERE YOU, IT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT JOHN MIGHT TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT ANYWAY, RIGHT? WOULD THAT BE CORRECT, YOUR HONOR? YES.

ALL JUDGE 17.

HATE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, I HAVE NUMBER 11 IS TO THROUGH THE COOPERATIVE GENTLEMEN, I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT QUOTE.

UH, THE PRICE FOR THAT IS 69 4 $13.

THAT IS A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT.

AT THE END OF THE THREE YEARS, UH, THERE'S A BLUE NOTE OF 210,000 AND WE HAVE THE OPTION TO, UH, PURCHASE THAT MACHINE OR TO RETURN THAT TO OLD CAT BUY IT BACK FOR, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, IT'S ACTUALLY A LEASE WE CALL A LEASE PURCHASE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING ON, I GUESS ING MACHINE THREE YEARS IN RETURN.

THAT MACHINE WE MAY LOOK AT, UH, POSSIBLY AUCTION OFF THAT, THAT TRACTOR AND THE TIME COMES TO SEE WE GET BUYBACK.

BUT CURRENTLY THE, UH, THE, THE OFFER THEY HAVE IS THE BUYBACK 10

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SIMILAR WHAT WE DID ON THE TRUCKS.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

I THINK WE'VE GOT ONE NOW THAT WE'RE RETURNING THAT WE PAID, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO 10 I THINK FOR THE BUYBACK.

ONE, FIVE.

IT WORKED REALLY WELL.

YEAH, IT'S A NO BRAINER.

IT SAVES COUNTY MONEY IF WE HAVE A MACHINE WITH YOU CAN'T GET THAT CARD.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION IN THIS PROPOSAL? IF I HAVE PROPOSAL NOT PART OF THIS BECAUSE THE FINANCING BE DONE, I THINK THE AUTHOR LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE AN OPTION THAT THAT IS OUT THERE FOR, BASED ON THOSE TERMS. MIGHT, MIGHT WANT TO AWARD IT, UH, WITHOUT FINANCING.

WANTS A BETTER RATE.

YEAH.

WHAT, WHAT KIND OF I LOOK LIKE COULD GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER RATE THAN WHAT HAD OFFERED RIGHT HERE.

BUT THEY ALSO, ONE OF THE THING, THEY GOT 33 WORTH OF INSURANCE, UH, IS INSURANCE WOULD COME OUT IF WE PAY THE INSURANCE OURSELVES.

THAT COME GENERAL, NO, IT COME OUTTA BRIDGE BECAUSE THAT'S FIND EQUIPMENT.

'CAUSE I THINK ON MY STUFF ALSO YOU NEED TO, YOU NEED TO REALIZE YOU BUY $500,000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT.

I HAVE TO EXPENSE IT OUTTA YOUR BUDGET.

AND I ALSO HAVE TOHO ALONG THES OF 500,000 COVER, BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT IN PAST EVER.

NOT, BUT IT'S DONE.

IT'S A REQUIREMENT.

SO THE TOTAL PAYMENT, I GUESS A YEAR PAYMENT WITH THE INSURANCE WILL BE 29 IF YOU GO THROUGH YEAH, IF YOU, WELL OUR INSURANCE IS PROBABLY CHEAPER THAN THEIR INSURANCE I WOULD GUESS.

I MEAN, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD CHANGE.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

THEY'LL LET YOU DO THAT.

DO WE? WE CAN GET HER ON INSURANCE.

YES.

OKAY.

I, OKAY.

WE OUGHT HAVE A MOTION.

DID WE ALREADY VOTE ON THIS? YES.

YEAH, I SECOND IT.

ALRIGHT.

DID WE VOTE? DID NO ALL SAY I DON'T.

ALRIGHT.

NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AWARDING R FT NUMBER OH FOUR DASH 13 CONSULTATION SERVICES TO DEVELOP A MULTI MITIGATION PLAN.

STEVE, JACKIE WANNA BRING US UP TO DATE ON THIS? YES, SIR.

UH, GENTLEMEN, MR. WHO IS, UH, BELIEVE A THIS WEEK, AND I THINK YOU GOT A COPY OF THE, UH, MEMO HE SENT ME.

UH, WE RECEIVED, UH, TWO PROPOSALS AND HIS, UH, STAFF GOES OUT AND I THINK YOU SEE HE HAS TO, UH, PARTNER.

THEY DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THAT GROUP AND THEN THEY HAD A LOT OF GOOD REFERENCES PLUS THEY SCORE OUT BETTER.

UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, THE COUNTY JUST HAS PORTION OF THIS PAY BACK LABOR.

THE AWARD MATTERS IS 74,009 50 AND THIS WOULD ALSO BE, UH, PENDING JOHN'S APPROVAL ON THE CONTRACT THAT THROUGH GRANT.

YEAH, THAT'S APPROVED GRANT.

MY THIRD ATE IS WE DON'T PAY ANYTHING OUTTA, BUT OTHER THAN WE'LL GET CREDIT FOR IN, IN FULLY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. CLARK MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE RFP OH FOUR 13.

THE AWARD OF THAT.

I HAVE SECOND SHANE, UH, DISCUSS.

ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO JUST CONSIDER APPROVING ROAD REPAIRS FOR THE CITY OF COMBINE AUSTIN COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR.

THIS IS A, UH, BID AND AN ESTIMATE FOR, UH, REPAIR ON, ON HAR ROAD THAT UH, WE CURRENTLY STOPPED IT.

DEBRIS,

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UH, HUNG ON A FENCE AND WASHED OUT ONE END OF THE COVER.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S GONNA BE MINIMAL COST FIX IT TAKE ABOUT FOUR, FIVE MINUTES OR AN OF HAS NO ROAD CREW OR EQUIPMENT FIXED WITH THROUGH OUR ANALOG, WHICH IS CURRENT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

UH, Y'ALL LET GO BACK AND FORM A MOTION PROVING THE I I SECOND COMMISSIONER ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A OPPOSED FROM YOU.

NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ALLOWING THE ERS TELECOM PROPERTIES TO INSTALL APORT COMMUNICATION POWER WITH AIRCRAFT WARNING LINE ON NINTH DRIVE AND STATE HIGHWAY 2 0 5 IN COUNTY, UH, PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.

YES.

YEAH, THIS IS HERE.

MR. WOODY? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH HAVING ME.

UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

WE'RE, WE'D LIKE TO BUILD A COMMUNICATION TOWER OUT ON MACKEY DRIVE IN 2 0 5.

IT'S GONNA BE FOR, UH, AT T WIRELESS AS THE PRIMARY CARRIER.

UH, IT'LL ALSO BE BUILT TO, UH, HANDLE THREE OTHER THREE TO FOUR ADDITIONAL CARRIERS, UH, ON THE TOWER.

UH, WE WERE ASKED TO PUT A LIGHT ON IT AND THE DRAWINGS TO THE DRAWING SHOW THAT, UH, IT'S A SECURITY TOWER WITH NO GUIDE WIRES AND, UM, WE LEASE THE PROPERTY.

UM, SO HERE TODAY ASK PERMISSION TO DO THAT.

WE'VE BEEN, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL AND THIS, THIS IS KIND OF A JOINT VENTURE WITH THE CITY OF TER.

WE, I, I BRING THINGS TO COURT BECAUSE OF I IN THE ETJ.

SO ANYWAY, REASON WOODY IS HERE TODAY AND SO WE'VE GOT IT DOWN.

HE DID HAVE A DRAWING THE FIRST TIME AROUND WITH G WIRES.

WE'RE DOWN TO NOW A SINGLE STAND UP TO, UH, DO, UH, WITH, SO A MOTION.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION IF THIS, THIS IS ALL ON PROPERTY? YES.

WHAT, UH, BECAUSE I HAD ONE OF THESE SAME ISSUES ON MY PRE BEFORE AND I DUNNO, WE HAVE AN AUTHORITY TO APPROVE DISAPPROVE IN ONE BUILDING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE A CORRECT JOB? UH, YEAH, I'M, UH, IS THERE, IS THIS PART OF A SUBDIVISION? NO, IT, IT IS JUST IN GERALD'S.

ETJ GERALD HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN WANTING US TO WORK WITH THEM.

AND WE HAVE THINGS IN WHAT WE CALL NO MAN'S LAND.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TOTALLY IN THEIR DEAL AND IT'S NOT TOTALLY IN OUR DEAL.

ONE OF US IS GONNA WIND UP WITH, UH, HAVING A HEADACHE.

SO BY, BY DOING THIS, STEVE ROGERS IS MUCH HAPPIER.

WE, UH, DO INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND THAT'S, WELL WE'RE, I I GUESS WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING INTERLOCAL.

WE'RE, WE'RE JUST INDICATING THAT WE'RE NOT OBJECTING TO TO THIS.

RIGHT.

AND, UM, I, I GUESS, UM, AND I KIND OF SHARE YOUR CONCERN, COMMISSIONER CLARK, UH, IF THE FAA HAS APPROVED IT, I DUNNO IF WE HAVE AUTHORITY.

TWO SECOND, GUESS IT.

SO I GUESS I WOULD COUCH A MOTION IN TERMS OF, UM, IN CONSIDERATION OF THE FA A'S APPROVAL AND WITHOUT A DETERMINATION THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT.

AND AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT, I THOUGHT BECAUSE IT IS A TOWER AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S 500 FEET.

NO, NO.

HOW LONG? HUNDRED 95 FOOT 95.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I, I THINK IT, IT, IT PROBABLY WAS FOR, TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE NEIGHBOR OBJECTIONS, HEARING THIS GENTLEMAN HERE IS PROBABLY GONNA BE DOING ONE OF THESE TOWERS AROUND HERE AS WE GROW.

SO, UH, HAVING THEM DO THE PERSONAL RIDE IS GONNA HELP OUR COUNTY, HELP OUR CITIZENS.

THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN WHAT GOES ON.

HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY OBJECTIONS FROM ANY OFFICE? NO.

NO.

WERE WERE YOU NOTIFIED BY ANYONE BEFORE THE HEARING? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

NO ISSUES.

UH, YOUR COMPANY BILLS THE TOWER AND THEN YOUR COMPANY LEASES IT TO THE SALE.

CORRECT.

TOWER TO THE CELL PHONE COMPANY GARAGE, YES.

AND I'M GONNA ASK SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY, UH, WAY OUT MY, WELL I KNOW IT'S WAY OUT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO UPGRADE OUR, UH, COMMUNICATION SYSTEM IN THE COUNTY.

OUR 9 1 1 SYSTEM.

IF WE DETERMINED THAT WE COULD USE YOUR TOWER AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE PERMISSION

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ON THIS TODAY, OF COURSE.

WOULD THAT BE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD PUT A REPEATER BRIAN, I I TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE THAT Y'ALL.

THAT DEPENDS.

JUST A REPEATER.

YES.

IF IT'S A MICROWAVE, JUST ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN WE HAVE STRUCTURAL, BUT IT'S JUST A REPEATER, YOU KNOW, USUALLY THOSE ARE A HUNDRED.

IF IT'S BELOW 150 FOOT, UH, WE WANT A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

YEAH.

SO, AND WE, WE DONATE SPACE A LOT FOR SMALL THINGS FOR COUNTY AND I, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST IN THE PROCESS OF BEGINNING.

SURE.

BUT IT JUST MADE SENSE.

THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE.

NO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

YEAH, LIKE I SAID, HE, HE IMPRESSED ME BY ALWAYS COMING AND WHEN THEY CHANGED THE TOWER, WHAT IT WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE, HE COME BACK AND SAID, HEY, WE DO THIS.

SO THIS IS THE REASON I BROUGHT COURT HERE.

AND I, I THINK IT'S NICE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE COME INTO OUR COUNTY AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

JUST COMING OUT THERE AND STICKING SOMETHING UP AFTER VOLUNTEER.

THAT'S PART OF IT.

THE COMMISSION ARE GONNA CLIMB.

I WON'T BE UP THERE.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, I, THOSE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU, WE APPRECIATE YOUR, WE MAY BE GETTING IN CONTACT WITH YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

STEVEN WOOD ALL ITEM NUMBER 15.

I'VE BEEN ASKED TO MOTION SECOND.

ALL FAVOR.

AYE.

ALL ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO DISCUSS AND ALLOWING THE CITY OF KEMP TO INSTALL WATER LINE IN THE COUNTY.

RIGHT ON.

I HAVE GRAPHICS BY THE CITY OF, WE'VE ALREADY REDONE 40 23 LAST YEAR.

WE DON'T OWN IT ALL.

WE, THIS IS TO HELP THE CITY COUNTY GET WATER FROM WEST CREEK MUD.

WHAT THEY CAME TO ME AND WANTED TO DO WAS, UH, COME FROM STATE HIGHWAY 2 7 4 3 TENS DOWN HERE, UH, IN SOUTH PORTION WATER RIGHTAWAY AND INSTALL A UH, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S A SIX INCH WATER LINE.

IT'LL BE BOARD, THERE'LL BE AN ENTRANCE TUNNEL EVERY 400 FEET AND THEY'LL PLANT IT TOGETHER.

UH, THOUGHT I'D RANK THE COURT AND LET Y'ALL VOTE ON IT SINCE IT IS IN THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY.

AND, UH, THIS WILL HELP THE CITY CAMP TO HAVE WATER IF OUR DROUGHT PERSISTS, WHICH I FEEL IS, IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND CITY.

SO I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION FOR THE, THE WATER COMPANIES TO GET THEIR OWN EASEMENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THIS IS A, THIS IS A TIME DEAL.

IT WAS GOING TO TAKE 'EM LIKE A YEAR TO NEGOTIATE ALL, ALL THE EASEMENTS AND RIGHT OF WAYS AND ALL THAT.

AND THEY NEED, THEY NEED THEIR WATER HOOKED UP YESTERDAY.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY CAME TO ME.

MR. WHY IT, UH, INDICATED THAT IT WAS STRICTLY A TIME DEAL AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO, IS THAT GONNA PAY FOR ANY DAMAGES TO THE ROAD? SO I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE A MOTION COMMISSIONER.

WE HAVE OTHER, WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? DOES THAT CLEAR UP WHAT YOU YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT A WATER LINE, THEY'RE CROSS COUNTY IN THAT AREA.

THIS IS E YEAH, THEY'RE, I UNDERSTAND ROAD WELL THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA TRY TO PREVENT COMING DOWN.

ANY OF MY ROADS DO KIND OF WORK.

SUPPOSED TO BE 36 DEEP WIND UP.

18.

I KNOW THEY'VE HAD A TIME TO CANCEL THEIR WATER, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

NEXT ITEM, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND THEN WE'LL GO MOTION SESSION.

WELL WE'LL DO THAT.

COME BACK.

OKAY.

BACK SESSION.

A MOTION TO ENTER

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EXECUTIVES SESSION TO DISCUSS DELIBERATION REGARDING LEASE REAL PROPERTY THAT'S PROVIDED FOR AND TEXAS GO CODE MAN.

MAKES THAT MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. ROSA.

ALL IN.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER, MAN, COMMISSIONER SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

I ITEM NUMBER 18, IT IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

THERE'S ONLY TWO OF THESE I CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION.

UH, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, LAST YEAR WE DID A LINE ITEM TRANSFER ABOUT $80,000 TO REPAIR AND PUT UP SOME NEW RADIO TERMS AND STUFF FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THEIR RADIO SYSTEM.

UH, THE PURCHASE, AN AGENT DID APPROPRIATELY BY ISSUING A PURCHASE ORDER AND I DID THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.

THEY DIDN'T GIVE US A BILL TILL MARCH 20TH.

AND BECAUSE IT'S 60 DAYS AFTER THE CLOSE OF THE YEAR, UH, I CAN'T PUT IT BACK IN LAST YEAR'S STUFF THAT'S BEEN CLOSED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN AUDITED.

SO I HAD TO DO A, UH, TRANSFER AND HIT FUND BALANCE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T USE IT FOR 12 THAT WENT BACK THE FUND BALANCE WHEN IT'S CLOSED.

SO WE'RE JUST HEADING IT AGAIN TO COVER THAT EXPENSE SO IT WON'T SHOW UP IN THE EXPENSE LAST YEAR.

WE WILL SHOW THAT EXPENSE.

YES.

BUDGET.

UH, ALSO, UM, ROAD BRIDGE ONE DID NOT HAVE ANY OFFICE SUPPLIES AND WE TALKED TO CINDY MADE HER SOME MONEY IN THERE TO COVER SOME OFFICE SUPPLIES AND THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS 1,057.

THAT'S FOR JUVENILE PROBATION AND THAT'S TO DO WITH THEIR STATE COUNTY.

BUT THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED WHY I BRING ALL OF THESE, EVEN THE SMALL ONES TO YOU, YOU CONTROL THE BUDGET BY WHEN YOU ADOPT IT AND THEN I HAVE TO CONTROL IT.

PURCHASING HAS TO CONTROL IT AND I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT THOSE TO YOU SO YOU LEAST KNOW AND YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE'VE TRANSFERRED MONEY FROM ONE LINE ISLAND TO ANOTHER COVER AND THAT MAKES US ALL LEGAL AND COVERS US.

SO THAT'S WHY I DID WHAT I DID.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YES SIR.

THIS, THIS WE'RE MIDWAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR AND UH, SEEMS LIKE THERE'S JUST A LOT OF SMALL LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

IS IT BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE NOT STICKING TO THEIR BUDGETS? DID THEY NOT ALLOW ENOUGH MONEY IN THEIR BUDGET OR, UH, WHAT'S THE DEAL? OKAY, SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT THEIR BUDGET HAD BEEN CUT OR NOT FILLED WITH ENOUGH TO MANAGE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR WHEN THEY CAME INTO OFFICE, UH, UNIFORMS AND SCHOOLS AND THINGS TO GET THEM THEIR LICENSE TOO, TO KNOW HOW TO DO THEIR JOBS.

OTHERS, UH, WHEN WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER THE FULL BUDGET, WE WENT BACK TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND ASK THEM TO CUT 10, 15%, WHATEVER THEY COULD.

AND I THINK WE CUT 'EM A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET ENOUGH MONEY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND ASK PEOPLE TO HOLD OFF.

AND SOME THINGS HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST HAPPENED.

THINGS BREAK DOWN, THINGS HAVE TO BE REPAIRED AND REPLACED.

OKAY.

OKAY.

QUESTION FOR YOU KAREN.

THAT S WORK BEFORE, BUT AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW BY NOW YOU HAVE TOO MANY THINGS.

TWO OR THREE TIMES, NO PROBLEM.

JUVENILE PROBATION GONNA INCREASE 200 LINE ITEM A THOUSAND.

ARE THEY ALREADY SPENT THEIR 200,000 BUCKS? NO, IT'S THE, THE STATE PORTION.

WE HAVE TO SPEND IT FIRST.

AND UM, THAT IS PART OF MY OFFICE'S FAULT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T USE THE RIGHT PERCENTAGES WHEN I SET UP THE BUDGET.

SO WE'VE HAD TO ADJUST THAT AND, UM, FIX THOSE LINE ITEMS AND WE'RE CONTACTING THE STATE AND WE'RE REFILING ALL THEIR REPORTS TO MAKE A MATCH.

WELL, SINCE THIS IS SALARIES, THAT WAS PROBABLY JUST TAKE IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR, WHATEVER.

OH YES SIR.

YES SIR.

BUT THEN THE TWO, NOW THE TWO LINE ITEMS, SIR, THE STATE AND THE COUNTY PORTION COVERS THE WHOLE THING.

YOU JUST HAVE THE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE COUNTY AND WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE STATE WRONG IN RETURN TO CORRECT THAT.

BUT I SAY SOMETIMES WHERE, UH,

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DO WE PUT MONEY NINE NINE TRANSFER WHEN THERE'S STILL MONEY IN THAT LINE ITEM? YES SIR.

FOR THOSE WE HAVE TO, TO MATCH THE STATE'S BUDGET THAT THEY DID.

AND WHAT ABOUT OTHER AREAS? SAY IN THE INSTANCE, OF COURSE I KNOW THAT'S, UH, A MINOR DEAL OF 200, BUT YOU'RE TRANSFERRING OUT OF POSTAGE TO MISCELLANEOUS.

YES, BECAUSE SHE'S, SHE SPENT SOME MONEY OUT MISCELLANEOUS LINE TRYING TO COVER THAT.

IT WASN'T POSTAGE, IT WASN'T BOOKS, MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. AND THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PHONE.

THAT'S NOT IN GENERAL THAT'S IN LIBRARY.

RIGHT.

I DON'T SEE ONE ON HERE THAT RELATE THAT A LITTLE BIT.

STRETCH ON THE, UH, THE REGULAR JAIL.

HAVE WE ALREADY SPENT THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WAS IN THERE? START WITH NO SIR.

SO WHY DID YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEVEN DO THAT? BECAUSE IT WAS BUDGETED FOR LAST YEAR AND IT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT TO HIT THEIR A HUNDRED THOUSAND THIS YEAR AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND MOVE MORE MONEY.

I SAY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF DOING IT LIKE THAT, BUT SOME SEEMS ME LIKE SOMETIMES WE PUT MONEY INTO ACCOUNT AND WE SPENT ALL THE MONEY THAT'S IN THAT, IN THAT LINE ITEM ALREADY.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE USUALLY CLOSE CLOSE YEAR BE WOULD BE SPENDING SOME MORE MONEY IN THAT FROM NOW.

WE'RE SIX MONTHS DOWN OF THE YEAR.

WELL THAT'S JUST TO PAY THAT BILL THOUGH.

NO.

YEAH.

THAT'S A BAD EXAMPLE.

I WAS USING THAT AS YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND A B TYPE THING.

RIGHT.

SOMETHING Y'ALL PROBABLY NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE ARE WORKING ON THE BUDGET IS YOU'LL LOOK AT THE LINE ITEM AND YOU WILL SAY, WELL IS THIS GONNA BE ENOUGH TO BUY ALL YOUR OFFICE PRODUCTS AND YOUR PRINTER LASER PRINTERS AND STUFF THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED? OH YEAH.

WELL THEY MIGHT HAVE REALLY NOT THOUGHT IT CLEARED THROUGH FOR 12 MONTHS.

OPERATING EXPENSES.

AND LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES BECAUSE WE WANT TO TRY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, WE'LL ASK EVERYBODY TO COME BACK AND, AND GIVE US MONEY.

UH, THE, THE JAIL AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ARE YOUR LARGEST DEPARTMENTS IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THEY'VE HAD TO GIVE US TWO OR 300,000 WHERE MY LITTLE DEPARTMENT MIGHT JUST GIVE YOU 2000.

SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THAT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASON TO HAVE A CONTINGENCY FUND IS BECAUSE EMERGENCY COMES UP, SOMETHING BREAKS AND THEN I DON'T HAVE IT.

I HAVE ONE MORE THING.

IT'S KIND OF BEEN BOTTOM ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE VENDORS THAT WE DO BUSINESS WITH THAT COME BACK AFTER THE, AFTER THE BUDGET YEAR HAS CLOSED, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, THE THING SHUTS OFF HERE YET WE GET A BILL FOR 80 GRAM, 60 DAYS AFTER THE DEAL AND WE GET BUILT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE MY DEAL DOWN THERE.

I GOT BILLS FOR, FOR TIRES, FOR INSPECTIONS FROM SUCH AND SUCH VENDOR AND SUCH AND SUCH VENDOR.

YOU GET THIS, GET THIS, YOU KNOW.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IS THERE NOT SOME, UH, SOME MECHANISM BY WHICH WE COULD TELL THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T SUBMIT THESE BIDS TIMELY.

THE BILLS YOU MEAN? YEAH, THE BILLS.

IF YOU DON'T SUBMIT 'EM IN A TIMELY FASHION, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE ISSUE IS YOU'RE NOT USING THE PURCHASE DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A PO AND THEN THE SOFTWARE NOW WILL RUN US A LIST OF ANY PURCHASE ORDERS AND WE WOULD KNOW WHO OTIS.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS BEFORE WE INSTITUTED THAT WAS NEW SOFTWARE INSTITUTED THE NEW SOFTWARE AND THE PURCHASING COST.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, WE'RE STILL, IT TAKES, IT TAKES 6, 8, 10 MONTHS FOR THE VENDORS TO GET TO BE USED TO THAT.

YES.

'CAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I DON'T, I'M NOT CALLING ANY NAMES, BUT I HAD BILLS FOR, UH, STATE INSPECTIONS FOR DUMP TRUCKS, FOR TIRE MOUNTING, FOR TIRE FIXING FOR THIS AND THAT, THAT WAS DONE IN NOVEMBER.

JUDGE.

HI BOSS.

THANK YOU.

OH, AND THEY WEREN'T SUBMITTED.

IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE A LETTER CAN BE SENT OUT? YOU KNOW, IT SAYS IF YOU DON'T SUBMIT THESE BILLS AND TIME, THE FASHION GENESIS, YOU GETTING PAID, SLAMMED AND NONE.

OH.

WRITE A NOTE FOR ME AND I'LL WRITE THAT LETTER.

I'LL BE GLAD TO.

WELL, I THINK THE PO SYSTEM WOULD DO THAT BECAUSE ONCE YOU, IF YOU GOT A PO FOR YOU ALREADY KNOW.

WELL, I MEAN IT'S COMING TO YOU.

WE'RE USING THAT NOW.

YEAH.

BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT WE ARE, WE'RE STILL RUNNING

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INTO THAT OF SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES.

SOMEBODY RUNS IN TO GET A PART AND THEY DON'T HAVE A PO BUT THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS EVERY WEEK BUYING SOMETHING.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA PASS THAT MONEY UP.

AND DO, WE DON'T GET THE INVOICE TO WAY LATER.

YEAH.

ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING IS DOUBLE PAYMENTS.

AND I'LL TELL YOU MY OFFICE SCOOPED UP.

WE'VE GOT THE MONEY BACK.

UH, TAC SENT US AN INVOICE FOR WORKERS' COMP.

ONE OF MY PEOPLE TAKES CARE OF THE INSURANCE TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDINGS, THE VEHICLES AND THE EQUIPMENT ARE COVERED.

DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF THE MEDICAL OR ANYTHING OR WORKER'S COMP THAT'S SENT FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND IT WAS SENT CORRECTLY.

BUT BECAUSE MY PERSON FULL FOR THE INSURANCE, SHE GOT THE SAME INVOICE.

SHE GAVE IT TO A DIFFERENT AUDITOR IN MY OFFICE AND IT WAS PAID TWICE BECAUSE THEY DON'T GIVE US AN INVOICE NUMBER.

OUR SYSTEM.

SO WE HAVE 109 $6,000 BEING MAILED TO US THIS WEEK.

I, WE TOLD ONE TIME THAT IT WOULD, THE SYSTEM WOULD NOT MAKE A TWO CHECKS OUT FOR THE SAME ID FROM THAT NO IDENTICAL INVOICE NUMBER IS THE INVOICE NUMBER, THE MAP? NO, WE USE BY, WE USE IT BY DATES WHEN WE RECEIVE IT.

WHEN IT DOESN'T HAVE AN INVOICE.

THAT'S WHY WE TOLD NOT TO WORRY ABOUT IT SO MUCH BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT IT CAME BACK TO, WELL WE GOT DIRECT FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS, A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND 2 CENTS.

IT WON'T WRITE ANOTHER BID DIRECT EXCEPT FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS 2 CENTS.

THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

NO.

OKAY.

NOT IT'S A DIFFERENT INVOICE NUMBER.

IF IT DOESN'T HAVE AN INVOICE NUMBER, THE DATE THAT WE RECEIVED IT IN THE OFFICE.

'CAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY DAYS TO TURN THAT CHECK AROUND, BUT WE HAVE ALREADY GOT THAT ISSUE FIXED.

THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON IN MY OFFICE THAT'S ALLOWED TO CUT A CHECK THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN INVOICE NUMBER.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I WAS REALLY UPSET AND IT REALLY WASN'T THE STAFF FAULT THEY WERE TRYING TO WORK THE BILLS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT HAPPENED.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, MAN.

I, ITEM NUMBER 19 DISCUSSED, IT'S CONSIDERED MAINTEN AMOUNT TO 1,000,090 9,500 1374.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO SECOND.