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PROTECT OUR TROOPS THAT DANG IN HARDWAY.

AND WE USE LITTLE RAIN, IF YOU CAN SEE FIT.

AMY? I PLEDGE THE LI FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TWO FOR WHICH HE STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD CONDITIONAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR HONOR, TEXAS.

SAY, I PLEDGE LIBERTY, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, INFORM THERE? NO, SIR.

DON'T HAVE IT.

UH, MR. ANDREWS, I KNOW I HAD WRITTEN YOU A LETTER AND, UH, INDICATED TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COURT.

IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME CONCERNING THE, UH, INDIAN OAK SUBDIVISION.

I PROMISED YOU THAT.

I'LL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO JUMP ON IT.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW MUCH I GOT, I'VE GOT TO SAY THAT.

HADN'T SAID BEFORE FOR MANY YEARS, UH, DON'T HAVE MY PAIR OF GLASSES ON.

I THINK THESE I'M BUT BLIND.

ANYWAY.

WE FILED A MOTION A LITTLE OVER FOUR YEARS AGO.

A LOT OF YOU'S COME AND GONE SINCE THEN.

AT THAT TIME, I BELIEVE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS, UH, UH, HERE AND HEARD, UH, ORAL TESTIMONY, SO TO SPEAK.

UH, WE WANTED TO SUBDIVIDE INDIAN OCEAN GOLF COURSE.

AND, UH, AFTER OUR PRESENTATION, UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE TODAY, THAT, UH, THIS MOTOR VEHICLE WAS TAKEN.

IT WAS TWO THOU, UH, 2009, I BELIEVE.

A YEAR LATER, UH, WE, UH, SENT A REGISTERED LETTER TO THEN JUDGE, UH, WAYNE GENT AND MR. LER GOT THE GREEN BACK, NO RESPONSE, AND HAVE HAD NO RESPONSE FOR FOUR YEARS.

I CAME UP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, SPOKE TO HIS HONOR ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SITUATION NOW.

JUDGE UP, WRITE ME A LETTER BACK AND SAID, THOUGH, I DISAGREE WITH THAT LETTER, SAID THE MEMBER OF THE DA'S OFFICE, I BELIEVE, UH, COLEMAN COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, JOHN.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT YOU , UH, UNDOUBTEDLY THE WAY I READ THE LETTER, UH, COMMISSIONERS DIDN'T VOTE ON TAKING THE MOTION UP AND DENYING IT OR APPROVING IT, WHATEVER.

WELL, IT ALL BOIL BOILS DOWN TO WHEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, THESE DISTRICT JUDGES GOING TO TELL YOU TO EXHAUST YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY.

IN THIS SITUATION, YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDY IS SIMPLY TO APPLY TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

WHICH COURT HAS THE RIGHT TO GRANT A VARIANCE OF THAT STATE STATUTE .

AFTER THE LAST TIME WE WAS HERE, UH, WE WAS, UH, ACCUSED OF ASKING YOU PEOPLE TO, UH, VIOLATE THE STATE LAW.

AND THAT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION TO ASK YOU TO VIOLATE THE STATE LAW.

'CAUSE I BELIEVE YOU ALL KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY.

YOU AND ONLY YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT A VARIANCE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND, AND WE SAT BACK AND WAITED FOR FOUR YEARS.

I WOULD DARE SAY THAT'S GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS.

, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD FOUR YEARS.

FOUR YEARS MONEY TIED UP PEOPLE WANTING TO BUY LOTS.

WHAT IS WRONG? WHAT IS WRONG? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG.

I UNDERSTAND.

UH,

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UH, I PRACTICE LAW OVER IN HENDERSON COUNTY, AND THEY GOT MONEY IN THE BANK.

UH, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT MONEY IN THE BANK FOR KAMAN COUNTY.

WE GOT 100 ACRE TRACK OUT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT FIGURES.

IT'S AN AG.

I THINK WE PAYING ABOUT 200 SOMETHING A YEAR TAXES ON, IF WE COULD SELL THOSE LOTS, THOUSANDS, THOUSANDS IN REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND, WHATEVER COULD BE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BRING IN TO THE COUNTY BUY GAS, WHISKEY, BEER, CLOTHES, GASOLINE, CIGARETTES.

UH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

WE'RE SITTING OUT THERE WITH A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON THIS.

UH, A HUNDRED ACRES, 98 ACRES, I BELIEVE, MR. MANNING.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

AND, UH, MR. ANDREW, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT.

OKAY.

I'VE GOTTA WRAP IT UP FAST.

THEN I GET STARTED.

I, I CAN'T SEE GOOD ANYWAY, AND I MIGHT AS WELL ANYWAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE THINKING.

THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SAYS THAT YOU CAN ENJOY YOUR PROPERTY.

YOU USE THE WORD ENJOY YOUR PROPERTY FOR ANY MINOR, AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT CREATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

I THINK ANYBODY'S BEEN, THE INDIAN GOLF COURSE, KNOWS EVERYTHING'S IN FINE.

CHECK.

FAIR.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL MOVING ON.

ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, UH, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE AND ANY OTHER, ANYBODY, ANY OTHER PERSON WISH, SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

NOT WE'LL MOVE INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MEETINGS FOR, UH, MINUTES OF APRIL THE 22ND.

UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING AN OFFICIAL BOND AND OATH OF DENNIS JONES.

THAT IS COUNTY COURT AT LAW JUDGE NUMBER TWO, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING REQUESTS FROM FARMERS ELECTRIC TO WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON COUNTY ROAD 2 49.

UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING VERNON BROOKS TO FILL A VACANCY ON THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT.

NUMBER SEVEN.

AND THAT APPOINTMENT WILL BE UNTIL DECEMBER THE 31ST, 2013.

AND TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING DEPUTATION OF JIM D VEST, CARMEN T LEY, TIMOTHY B FORTNER, CHRISTOPHER B KITS JONATHAN R LOT, ANDREW J. HARRIS FOR THE COFFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE, UH, AGENDA ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'M GONNA, WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MR. SHANE'S SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER GRANTING COMMISSION TO THE CWA CRUDE PIPELINE COMPANY LLC TO INSTALL A 30 INCH PIPELINE ACROSS KANSAS CIRCLE COUNTY ROAD, 2 34, 2 33, 2 36, 2 37, 2 37, A, UH, COUNTY ROAD, 3 0 5, 2 73 2 81 2 80 COUNTY ROAD, 2 83 40 82.

40 61 41 29.

ACTUALLY, IT'LL CROSS THAT ROAD TWICE.

OAK TRAIL COUNTY ROAD, 40 64, 40 68, 40 70, 40 66 COUNTY ROAD, 40 71, AND ALSO REQUIRING A $250,000, UH, SURETY BOND FROM SEAWAY CRUDE PIPELINE COMPANY.

UM, MR. SHANE HAD MET WITH THESE PEOPLE, AND I BELIEVE IT PRETTY WELL CROSSES JUST ABOUT ALL OF OUR, UH, UH, STRAIGHT THROUGH OUR COUNTY.

AND I BELIEVE THIS FOLLOWS THE ROUTE OF AN EXISTING PIPELINE THAT IS THERE.

SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I THINK ALL OF YOU PRETTY WELL ARE AWARE, I THINK.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HERE WITH ? UH, ONLY ONE QUESTION I'VE GOT TO ASK ABOUT THIS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE FIXING TO DO A LOT OF DEVELOPING UP IN MATERIAL AREA.

UH, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF SITUATION DOES THIS DO WITH, WITH THE DEVELOPERS, UH, WHEN THEY AROUND Y'ALL PIPELINE? Y'ALL HAVE A, UH, AN AGREEMENT IN, IN PLACE ABOUT THAT? THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ABOUT IT THAT

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I HADN'T HAD ANSWERED.

AND SO I, UH, BUT I KNOW YOU, THE PEOPLE THAT'S DOING THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN MEETING.

AND SO, UH, JUST WONDERING HOW THIS AFFECTS US, OR DO WE HAVE, DO WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS? WELL, THE, THE EASEMENT THE SUE IS GONNA GET IS A NON-EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT.

SO IT'S, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND FEE OR GET IT WHO'S PRICE THE PROPERTY.

SO WHEN ANOTHER UTILITY LINE NEEDS TO CROSS, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'LL DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE LANDOWNER.

AND THEN ANY ENCROACHMENTS WITH THE PIPELINE COMPANIES, UH, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PIPE, YOU CAN CROSS ABOVE OR BELOW THE, UH, PROPOSED SEAWAY EXIST.

SEAWAY PIPELINE.

UH, FOR THE MOST PART, THE PIPELINES ABOVE THE SAME PLANE HORIZONTALLY.

SO WHERE YOU MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR EXISTING PIPELINES, IT SHOULD BE A SIMILAR ACCOMMODATION FOR THE PROPOSED PIPELINE.

UM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S A, A SPECIFIC, UH, GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HANDLE ENCROACHMENTS DIRECTLY.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, PROPERLY STAFFED TO TRY TO EXPEDITE THOSE REQUESTS.

THANK YOU.

MY QUESTION.

MOTION APPROVE THIS, MR. SHANE MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

AND I'LL ASK, UH, JOHN LONG, OUR ATTORNEY TO LOOK OVER THE CONTRACT AND MAKE SURE IT ALL FITS, UH, FOR I BEFORE WE SIGN IT.

UH, THE NEXT IS TO, UH, CONSIDER A REPORT OR TO, UH, HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM KATHY MORRIS, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2013.

OKAY.

FOR APRIL, 2013, WE ONLY HAD 13 SUBJECT SYSTEMS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT SLOWER THAN MARCH BY PRECINCT.

THERE WERE TWO PRECINCT ONE, SEVEN AND THREE AND FOUR.

IN PRECINCT FOUR, THERE'S 176 TOTAL COMPLAINTS, MOST OF THEM FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.

THERE'S 121 AND 31 MALFUNCTIONS, AND 24 FROM THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER.

VIOLATIONS BREAKDOWN BY PRECINCT IS PRECINCT ONE HAD 53, PRECINCT TWO HAD 38, PRECINCT THREE HAD 15, AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD 46.

THE TOTAL CASES FILED IN JP COURT WAS NINE ONE, UM, 37 FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, 17 FOR MALFUNCTIONING SYSTEMS, AND 37 FOR MAINTENANCE.

MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE 24 THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED.

SOME OF THOSE COMPLAINTS WERE THREE AND FOUR AT ONE LOCATION, SO THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER IS WRONG.

UM, COURSES, COURT CASES FILED BY PRECINCT IS 16 AND PRECINCT ONE 17 AND PRECINCT TWO NINE AND PRECINCT THREE AND 12 AND PRECINCT FOUR.

AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY 42 FOLLOW UPS TO COMPLAINTS.

ACTUAL VISITS ADDRESSING BY PRECINCT.

UH, PRECINCT ONE HAD FOUR, PRECINCT TWO HAD FOUR, PRECINCT THREE HAD 13, AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD 13 WITH A TOTAL OF 34, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

AND DANNY SAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE, I MEAN, THIS IS LAND THAT'S BEING SOLD AND PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY ACTING ASKING FOR ADDRESSES.

IT'S NOT SUBDIVISION.

SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

IT'S QUITE A BIT MORE THAN WE HAD BEEN DOING.

WE DID GET A REPORT FOR THE GIS ACCURACY.

I KIND OF BROKE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THIS TIME WHERE IT SAYS K-C-G-I-S.

THAT MEANS WHAT WE, MY DEPARTMENT DOES FOR THE GIS AND WHAT IT IS WITH THE STRUCTURE POINT CENTER LINE, UH, MSM, SAGAN ACCURACY RATE IS TOTAL WITH THE COUNTY, WHICH INCLUDES CITIES OF FORNEY, TERRELL, KAUFMAN, AND CRANDALL THAT DO THEIR OWN.

SO WE'RE ALL ABOUT EVEN THE CENTER LINES.

YOU'LL, AS YOU'LL NOTICE FOR A TOTAL WIDE OF OVERALL THE COUNTY, THE CITIES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BLOCKS INSTEAD OF MILES WORTH OF ROADS, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE WITH WHAT THEIR, THEIR M SAGS ARE, WHICH IS THE ROAD RANGES, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN LIKE THAT FOREVER.

A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE THAT WAY.

AND THEN THE SECOND PAGE IS JUST TO BREAK DOWN BY THE SIX WE DO GIS FOUR AND THEIR PERCENTAGES.

WHAT'S OUR, WHAT'S OUR GOAL TO REACH ON THE ACCURACY, IT'S, IT'S BACK UP TO NINE SEVEN AGAIN.

BUT THIS TIME, LIKE I WAS, I WAS SAYING EARLIER, THEY CHANGED THE PARAMETERS OF THE DETAIL THAT THEY WANT.

AND INSTEAD OF JUST OVERALL ROADS, NOW THEY'RE GETTING DOWN INTO POLYGONS, WHICH GETS EVERY MINUTE LITTLE ERROR.

THAT'S WHY OUR PERCENTAGES DROPPED BACK DOWN AGAIN.

WE ARE AT 97%, AND THIS IS HOW THEY EXPLAIN IT.

WE ARE AT 97%, BUT WE'RE NOT AT 97%.

SO WE ARE, WE'RE NOT YEAH, BACK IN THAT WEEK.

GO FIGURE BACK.

CAN THAT BE, I MEAN, WE ARE, I DUNNO.

WE ACTUALLY ARE, WE DID MAKE THE 97% WHEN THEY CHANGED THE PARAMETERS FOR THIS NEW GRANT PERIOD, WHAT THEY, THEY'RE DOING INSTEAD OF GOING BY ROADS AND ROAD RANGES AND GETTING THE CENTER POINTS UP TO 97%, NOW THEY'VE CHANGED IT TO WHERE YOU'RE GETTING INTO POLYGONS, WHICH IS FEET OFF.

SO IF YOU'VE GOT A BOUNDARY LINE THAT IS JUST FEET OFF LAST YEAR, IT WAS RIGHT, THIS YEAR, IT'S WRONG.

SO WE'VE GOTTA GO IN AND ADJUST THOSE BOUNDARY LINES.

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WHAT'S GONNA BE OUR PENALTY IF WE'RE NOT, THERE'S NO PENALTY.

OKAY.

GOOD.

THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT.

, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO ESTABLISH A PENALTY? NO.

NO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

.

WE PUT ENOUGH PRESSURE ON OURSELVES THAT I DON'T NEED THAT.

THANKS.

I'LL MAKE, I'LL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE REPORT.

SECOND, THE COURT MAKES A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, WE'RE HERE FROM LORETTA WILLIAMS, UH, FROM THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER REPORT IN FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL.

LORETTA, MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE HAVE HAD A VERY BUSY, UH, FEW MONTHS SINCE, UH, JANUARY.

UH, WE ARE RUNNING BETWEEN 14 AND 17, UH, PRETTY REGULAR.

UH, OUR AVERAGE FOR THE YEAR AT THE END OF APRIL WAS 13.7.

UH, WE RAN ALMOST 17 THROUGH ALMOST ALL OF, UH, MARCH AND APRIL.

UH, THERE WERE A FEW DAYS WHEN GROUPS MOVED THAT OUR NUMBERS DROPPED, UH, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR THE, FOR THE DIFFERENCE IN AVERAGES.

UH, I WAS HONORED TO HOST THE SHELTER COALITION MEETING FOR THE NORTH TEXAS REGION, UH, ON FRIDAY.

AND THEY MEET, THEY TRY TO MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH.

IT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE, UH, BUT CONSENSUS IS WE ARE BACK TO BUSINESS, UH, WHERE WE WERE THREE YEARS AGO BEFORE, BEFORE THE ECONOMY FELL SO BAD.

UH, ALL THE SHELTERS ARE RUNNING FULL AGAIN.

UH, WE'RE BACK TO, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOSTER HOMES AND ALTERNATIVE PLACEMENTS.

UH, THEY'RE STAYING WITH US LONGER.

UH, I'VE GOT THREE GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE THROUGH SINCE ONE, SINCE DECEMBER ONE, SINCE JANUARY, UH, WHICH IS VERY UNUSUAL.

UH, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THIS TREND CARRIES US THROUGH THE YEAR.

UH, GET US BACK ON TRACK FINANCIALLY.

UH, WE DID HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OF INCIDENTS OVER THE CA UH, PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

WE HAD, UH, ONE TEENAGE GIRL THAT WAS ARRESTED AND SPENT A NIGHT IN DETENTION FOR ASSAULTING ONE OF OUR OTHER TEENAGE GIRLS.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY WHEN SHE CAME BACK, SHE CONTINUED TO DETERIORATE, UH, AND I HAD TO REFER HER TO, UH, TO A MORE RESTRICT RESTRICTIVE PLACEMENT.

AND WE ALSO HAD TO ADMIT ONE OF OUR YOUNGER KIDS, UH, INTO GLEN OAKS FOR A FIVE DAY STAY.

UH, AND THEN WHEN HE GOT BACK, UH, HE WAS STEADY FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND THEN HE STARTED DETERIORATING AGAIN.

SO WE ALSO HAD TO MOVE HIM.

UH, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF COMMUNITY AND RELIGIOUS GROUPS, UH, VISIT, BRING THINGS FOR THE SHELTER.

UH, WE HAD A CHURCH GROUP COME ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO AND REPLANT ALL OUR FLOWER BEDS.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAD ANOTHER CHURCH GROUP COME AND, AND DO ALL THE YARD SERVICE.

UH, WE LOST SETH IN MARCH.

UH, HE WENT ON TO BIGGER AND BETTER OPPORTUNITIES, UH, BUT KINDA LEFT A HOLE IN OUR, IN OUR MANPOWER.

UH, SO WE WERE HOPING TO, UH, MAYBE FIND SOMEBODY OVER THE SUMMER TO WORK PART-TIME TO, UH, HELP RICK KEEP THE GROUNDS UP.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE ADDED SOME, UH, WE HAD TO REPLACE SOME PART-TIME STAFF, UH, SINCE ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR.

I'VE LOST SEVERAL.

ONE HERE, ONE THERE.

AND WE WERE DOWN ABOUT FOUR, UH, THAT OUR NUMBERS REALLY DIDN'T WARRANT ADDING EXTRA STAFF, SO WE JUST KIND OF WORKED THROUGH.

UH, BUT THEN WHEN NURSING NURSING PROGRAM ENDED IN DECEMBER, WE LOST THREE MORE.

UH, SO WHEN OUR NUMBERS STARTED CLIMBING, I DID HAVE TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE ARE FULL STAFF NOW.

I'VE GOT ABOUT 12 PART-TIME.

UH, SO, BUT EVEN, EVEN WITH THEM, WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY TOUGH KIDS, UH, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

SO IT'S, IT'S TAKEN ALL OF US TO, TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN, KEEP EVERYBODY IN CALM.

UH, MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS ALSO, UH, PURCHASED US A, A NEW, A NEW USED VAN, UH, IN FEBRUARY.

IT WAS A REALLY LOW MILEAGE, GOT A REALLY GOOD DEAL ON IT.

UH, HAVE HAD TO DO SOME MINOR REPAIR AND ADJUSTMENTS ON IT.

UH, BUT EVEN, EVEN WITH THE REPAIR COSTS, WE, WE STILL GOT A PRETTY GOOD DEAL ON IT.

UH, WE HAD TO, UH, ONE OF OUR VANS BLEW AN ENGINE, UH, AND IT WAS, IT WAS ONE OF THE OLDER VANS,

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UH, SO THEY DECIDED INSTEAD OF REPAIRING IT, THAT THEY JUST PURCHASED THIS OTHER ONE.

AND WE ALSO, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, MIKE LER, UH, FROM TERRELL, UH, HIS MEN'S GROUP FROM HIS CHURCH, UH, IS DOING FUNDRAISERS HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO TO PURCHASES A NEW VAN.

UH, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UH, THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE THAT I NEED TO BRING BEFORE THE, UH, BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS, I HOPE YOU WROTE THE NARRATIVE ON MY PHONE, .

I REALLY WANT TO GET MY PHONE TURNED BACK ON.

UH, IT'S, IT STARTED OUT BAD AND IT'S JUST GONE DOWNHILL.

UH, BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT I, WHAT I PRESENTED TO MY BOARD WAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, IN THEIR POSITION WITH THE COUNTY TO RELEASE THAT PHONE NUMBER TO ME PERSONALLY.

AND LET ME PUT IT ON A PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

UH, UH, WE DISCUSSED BOTH OPTIONS.

EITHER ME TAKING IT OVER PERSONALLY OR THE BOARD PAYING FOR IT, PAYING FOR IT IS NOT AN ISSUE.

I'M, I'M FULLY PREPARED TO, TO, UH, TAKE OVER THE, THE CHARGES FOR THE QUOTE.

UH, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE THIS NOT TO BE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.

UH, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH AT AND T AND THEY SAID SINCE THEY'RE BOTH AT T ACCOUNTS, THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM TRANSFERRING THE PHONE, UH, TO ANOTHER ACCOUNT NUMBER.

UH, SO IF YOU ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT, THAT IS REALLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.

UH, JACK, YOU HAVE, THERE IS AN ISSUE.

WE PAY PHONE TECH FOREVER.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT CAUSED THE ISSUE.

I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, IF THE COURT WANTS TO RELEASE THOSE NUMBERS TO, UH, GO TO A, THERE'S ONLY ONE, ONE NUMBER.

OKAY.

JUST, JUST MY CELL PHONE.

UH, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, I'M NOT, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE LETTER, BUT, UH, BASICALLY I GUESS A, A NEW PHONE WAS PURCHASED, RIGHT? AND, UH, DIDN'T COME THROUGH THE PURCHASING APARTMENT.

AND WHEN THEY TURN THAT PHONE ON, YOU LOST SOME OF THE, UH, GRANDFATHER RATES.

YOU, RIGHT? UH, AND SO IT WAS GOING TO INCREASE THE COST PER MONTH.

THE GENTLEMAN OF GIVING THE TASK TO MONITOR, THAT'S THAT PHONE.

YES, MA'AM.

YOU ALSO WATCH, NOT DO.

SO I, I CERTAINLY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, UH, TURNING UP HER.

DID YOU ORIGINALLY HAVE A COUNTY PHONE? WHEN I WAS HIRED IN 9, 9 6 9 7, UH, THE SHELTER HAD A MOBILE PHONE, UH, THAT WAS USED FOR AWAY FROM THE SHELTER ACTIVITY.

THIS I'M TALKING ABOUT RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, IN LATE FEBRUARY, I WAS EXPERIENCING SOME DIFFICULTY WITH MY CELL PHONE.

WAS THAT PARTICULAR PHONE A COUNTY PHONE? I BELIEVE THAT ONE WAS ON THE COUNTY INVENTORY WITH THE, I BELIEVE SO.

UH, MY SON, MY SON ACTUALLY PURCHASED THAT FIRST PHONE.

UH, THE ORIGINAL PHONE WAS ONE OF THOSE, UH, NIKIAS.

UH, AND WHEN WE SWITCHED MY, THE SERVICE TO MY, TO MY IPHONE, UH, MY SON BOUGHT IT FOR ME FOR MOTHER'S STATE.

UH, ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS CALL THE COUNTY AND, AND HAL CLEARED IT AND IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL.

UH, WHEN I REPLACED THIS PHONE, RICK BOUGHT THE PHONE.

IT'S NOT A COUNTY PHONE.

RICK PURCHASED THE PHONE OFF OF OUR ACCOUNT.

SO IS THIS A COUNTY NUMBER? THIS IS A COUNTY NUMBER.

THE COUNTY IS IN, UH, THE NUMBER IS IN COUNTY, COUNTY INVENTORY.

NOT, LIKE I SAY, MAYBE PRIOR, PRIOR TO THE FIRST TIME, I GUESS YOU BOUGHT ONE, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T A PHONE POLICY.

AND OF COURSE WE ESTABLISHED ONE, I GUESS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY, ANY PROBLEMS. UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO RELEASE THAT NUMBER , AND LET ME HAVE IT.

SO THIS WON'T BE A COUNTY NUMBER ANYMORE, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.

YES, SIR.

IF HE RELEASES IT TO ME, WILL BE, IT WILL BE A PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

BUT THE COUNTY WILL BE PAYING THE BILL.

NO, SIR.

I'VE BEEN PAYING FOR IT.

YOU YES, SIR.

THE BILL.

AND OF COURSE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE PLAN AND, AND, AND PAY THE BILL.

IT'S JUST GOING INCREASE THE COST OF THE COUNTY.

UH, IF, IF USED TO DO THAT.

THE COST OF THE COST OF THE PHONE IS, IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH ME AT ALL.

UH, MY WHOLE IDEA BEHIND ASKING FOR THE RELEASE OF THE PHONE, THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN, YEAH, I SEE MY NUMBER.

UH, YEAH, FOR LOTS OF YEARS.

PEOPLE, PEOPLE ASSOCIATE THAT NUMBER WITH ME PERSONALLY FOR, UH, I'M FULLY PREPARED TO PAY ALL THE CHARGES, WON'T HAVE ANY REFLECTION OF THE COUNTY AT ALL.

DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OR A COMMENT THAT GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR? SO IT'S JUST A, IT'S A COUNTY.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S YOUR PERSONAL PHONE, BUT YOU HAVE A COUNTY.

YES, SIR.

NO, I ORIGINALLY

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HAD A, A COUNTY PHONE.

IT WAS, IT WAS ED TO THE COUNTY.

YOU, YOU PAY THE BILL ON IT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I DO NOT PAY THE BILL.

NOW, THE COUNTY PAYS THE BILL, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THE BILL WHEN ITS RELEASED.

I'M GOING TO PAY THE BILL.

YES, SIR.

OUTTA CURIOSITY IS WHY DON'T YOU WANT THE COUNTY TO CONTINUE TO, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT DO THIS AGAIN.

YOU.

WHAT? I DON'T WANNA DO THIS AGAIN.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PAY THE BILL.

I'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

WHEN THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH PURCHASING, AT AND T WOULD NOT LET HER HAVE THAT RATE, WOULD NOT LET HER HAVE HER TEXTING OR HER INTERNET, BECAUSE THEN IT, THE CONTRACTORS BROKE BECAUSE IT WAS DONE THE WRONG WAY.

WHEN WE, WHEN HE TRIED TO GET IT FIXED, THEY SAID NO.

YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY TURNED THAT OFF.

SHE'D HAVE TO HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR US TO UPGRADE IT FOR HER LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PHONE, OF COURSE THE SALES LADY SAID, NO PROBLEM, IT'LL TRANSFER RIGHT OVER.

UH, SO WE TRANSFERRED THE PHONE OVER, UH, AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT AND I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE.

MY, MY INTERNET'S NOT ON.

I, I CAN'T TEXT.

AND SHE SAID, WELL, HERE'S THE BUSINESS NUMBER.

JUST CALL 'EM.

IF THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, THEY'LL JUST, THEY'LL JUST TURN IT BACK ON.

WELL, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY.

LOOKED LIKE IT, IT PROBABLY SAVE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, WOULD IT NOT, JACK? OH YEAH, DEFINITELY TRANSFER.

PERFECT.

YEAH.

WHAT, WHAT WAS THE REASON IN OUR POLICY THAT WE WOULDN'T ALLOW NUMBERS TO BE TRANSFERRED? I I'M ASSUMING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THE PART OF THAT WAS THAT THE PHONE BEING USED FOR PERSONAL USE, UH, AND THEN IF THERE WAS A NUMBER, LET'S JUST, WE'LL PICK ON PUBLIC WORKS THAT IF, IF THE PUBLIC WAS USED TO DIALING THAT NUMBER, UH, AND THAT PERSON RETIRED OR, OR LEFT, BUT THAT SAME NUMBER WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH BOTH.

OBVIOUSLY IN, IN SOME AREAS THAT MAY NOT APPLY.

BUT I THINK THAT WAS ORIGINAL INTENT.

REMEMBER THAT, MA'AM? AND ONCE AGAIN, THE POLICY SAYS WE DON'T HANDLE THAT NUMBER, BUT THE COURT CAN MAKE THAT EXCEPTION.

AND I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THE, UH, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD INTERFERE WITH SHELTER BUSINESS IF, GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ME.

UH, ANY PARTICULAR, UH, REASON THAT YOU DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE, THE PURCHASING POLICY OR YOU JUST SWORN A NEW WELL, YOUR SON JUST WANTED A NEW, I WAS GONNA CHANGE PHONES ANYWAY, BUT THE LADY SAID IT WON'T INTERRUPT THE SERVICE WON'T CHANGE THE PURPOSE.

THAT'S SALES WON'T CHANGE THE, EXACTLY.

EXACTLY.

UH, IF I HAD DONE IT WAS GONNA BE AN ISSUE, I WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY TO CALL JACK AND SAY, I'M GOING TO GET AN INFO.

UH, BUT I TRUSTED THE SALES PERSON.

I WON'T DO THAT AGAIN EITHER.

WHY? YOUR PLAYER AGENDA? WELL, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

YES, IT'S ON THE, UH, IT'S, IT SAYS PLEASE ACCEPT THE REPORT.

WE CAN COME BACK WITH THE AGENDA IF YOU WANNA, BUT, UH, OR I'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT IT ON NEXT, NEXT TIME.

YEAH, WE'LL DO IT NEXT TIME.

WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO.

IF, UH, JOHN, YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ACT ON OR WE NEED TO COME BACK AND, UH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION, I THINK YOU NEED TO COME BACK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BUT WELL UPSET.

YES.

OTHER THAN THAT, CAN WE ACCEPT THE, UH, THE, UH, REPORT FROM LORE FROM SECOND? UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A THANK YOU.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? I GOT SO ALL THOSE NUMBERS.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHTY.

I DON'T NEED, UH, YEAH, SEAN'S HERE.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, TO, UH, UH, RECEIVE A REQUEST FROM CONSTABLE MAYFIELD TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN EQUIPMENT TRANSFER OF A WAYLON LED LIGHT BAR THAT WAS TAKEN OFF THE SQUAD CAR AND NO LONGER AND USED BE, UH, TO BE DONATED TO THE COFF FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THIS WAS A LIGHT THAT WAS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? YES, SIR.

ON YOUR, ONE OF YOUR OLD CARS? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND IT WOULD BE TO THE VOLUNTEER SIDE? TO THE COFFER FIRST DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

ONE OF THEIR, UH, RESCUE TRUCKS.

THE LIGHT BAR HAD GONE OUT IN IT.

AND, AND, UH, THEY'VE ALWAYS ASSISTED US WHEN WE'RE PUTTING EQUIPMENT OFF AND ON THESE VEHICLES AND LET US USE THE BAYS IN THERE AND NEVER CHARGED US, WHICH SAVES US MONEY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND IT SOMEWHERE.

SO I WAS JUST WANTING TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THE ONE THAT WE HAD LEFT OVER, TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ONE OF THE RESCUE TRUCKS, LIKE A DONATION TO THEM.

UH, JACK, IS THAT JUST, JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, CHAPTER 2 63 0.152 DOES ALLOW THE COUNTY TO DONATE TO CHARITY OR CIVIC GROUPS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

IT'S A VOLUNTEER, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I BELIEVE IT FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY.

OKAY.

WE MIGHT JUST MENTION IN MINUTES THAT UNDER 2 63 52, I'M GLAD YOU KNOW THOSE NUMBERS

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BY HEART.

THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESS .

I'M GONNA LOOK THAT UP NOW WHILE I'M SITTING AROUND TRYING TO ON THIS ONE.

ANYTHING TOO EASY? UH, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? HAW I MOVE THAT WE, UNDER CHAPTER 2 63 0.1 52, DID WE TRANSFER THE LAP BAR TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT? OKAY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. ROSA MAKES A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ALL SAY AYE.

THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ADAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND GIVE US YOUR, UH, REPORT FOR APRIL 13? HOPE YOU LEARNED A LOT IN YOUR TRAINING LAST WEEK.

IT WAS A GOOD CONFERENCE.

GOOD TRAINING.

A NEW LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

YEAH.

KEPT THIS UP.

TODAY IS PRETTY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU, UH, WANNA LOOK AT YOUR SEVENTH MONTH BENCHMARK, WE SHOULD BE AT 0.58% ON, UH, OUR COLLECTIONS AND OUR EXPENDITURES.

IN THE GENERAL FRONT, OUR REVENUES ARE SITTING AT 85%, WHICH IS EXCELLENT AS COMPARED TO WHAT BENCHMARK WOULD BE.

OUR EXPENDITURES ARE SITTING AT 55.8%, WHICH IS BELOW.

SO WE'RE NOT SITTING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE SHOULD BE EXPENDING, EXPENDING, UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE.

UH, YOU HAVE 79% OF YOUR REVENUES IN YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE FUND THAT HAS CAME IN.

THE TRANSFERS AND ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES FOR OUT OF THAT DEPARTMENT ARE AT 72%.

UH, YOUR FUNDS FOR YOUR INDIVIDUAL ROAD AND BRIDGE, YOUR REVENUES ARE SITTING AT 60% AND YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT 37%.

WHY ARE THE NUMBERS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR REPORT TO TEXAS SISTER'S REPORT? ARE WE NOT USING THE SAME DATA? IT DEPENDS ON WHEN SHE'S WRITING A CHECK.

WHEN SHE WRITES THE CHECK COUNTY TREASURER, THEN I JUST, FOR, FOR REVENUE, THAT'S, SHE HAS TO WRITE A CHECK TO COUNTY TREASURER.

IT HAS TO BE RECEDED.

AND IF THEY DON'T APPROVE IT THE RIGHT PERIOD, IT'S NOT GONNA AIR.

IT'S, IT'S A TIMING THING THERE.

IT'S A TIMING ISSUE.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

AND WHERE'D YOU SAY WE SHOULD BE ON EXPENDITURES? ABOUT 58%.

OKAY.

ANY, UH, QUESTION, KAREN? THERE'S, UH, DOING VERY WELL.

YEAH.

WE GOT OUR SECOND QUARTER PAGE.

THERE'S ONE DEPARTMENT HERE THAT, UH, WHICH DEPARTMENT IS GOING LOOK AT FOUR H EDUCATION? YES, SIR.

IS, IS A LITTLE HIGH.

AND THEN COURSE THE COMPUTER SALES A LITTLE HIGH.

WHAT'S THE FOUR H? WE ONLY GIVE THEM THE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THEIR EDUCATION CARE AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL BUY THAT ALL AT ONE TIME.

ALL RIGHT, I SEE THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THE, UH, THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS IS WHEN WE PAY FOR THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, WE PAY IT ALL FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

WE DON'T PAY IT FOR, UH, BIMONTHLY.

RIGHT.

IT'S MORE OF A TIMING THING AGAIN THEN.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND WE HAD A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNED.

NEW COMPUTER REPLACEMENTS AND THINGS IN THAT DEPARTMENT TOO.

ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? YOU GOT ANYTHING? NO, I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU.

MR. SHANE MAKES A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, AUGUST'S REPORT FOR APRIL, 2013.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. MANNY SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU, KAREN.

UH, JOHNNY IS NOT HERE THIS

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MORNING AND, UH, HE HAD EYE SURGERY.

I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE.

AND SO WE'RE, HE'S ASKED THAT WE TABLE ITEM EIGHT, UH, ITEM NINE AND NINE AND ITEM 10 UNTIL HE CAN RETURN.

UH, NEXT, IN OUR NEXT MEETING, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THOSE THREE ITEMS? SO MADE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING.

WE SECOND.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER G.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 11, TANYA RATCLIFF TO PRESENT OUR, UH, TAX ACCESSORY COLLECTOR REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2013.

OKAY.

WELL, THE BIG NUMBER WE NEED TO LOOK AT HERE IS THE SECOND COLUMN.

CURRENT ROLE, UH, TAXES COLLECTED YEAR TO DATE ARE $27,768,784.

ON DOWN A LITTLE BIT FARTHER.

THE LARGER NUMBER THAT'S WITH OUR PENALTIES AND INTEREST, WE'VE COLLECTED $27,883,974.

AND YOUR ROAD AND RIDGE, SAME THING.

YOUR TAXES CLICK ON THAT SAME ROLL STRAIGHT DOWN.

THE BOTTOM LINE WITH YOUR PENALTIES AND INTEREST IN TAXES COLLECTED ON YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE IS $3,039,224.

AND I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU THAT THIS IS NOT ALL THE MONEY WE COLLECT, THIS IS JUST THE COUNTY'S PORTION.

THIS DOESN'T COUNT WHAT WE COLLECT FOR ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES.

SO I YOU'RE GETTING WHAT GOES TO THE COUNTY.

SO FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHICH BRINGS UP SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

AND I KNOW ON WHEN SOME OF OUR, UH, MORTGAGE COMPANIES SEND OUT THEIR STATEMENT MM-HMM .

PARTICULARLY A LOCAL BANK IN THE COUNTY, IT SAYS ON THE PRINTOUT THAT THE TAXPAYER GETS COUNTY TAXES.

AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE THEY PAY THE TAXES FOR EVERYBODY.

AND REALLY THEY SHOULD CHANGE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET 'EM TO DO THIS.

AND THEY SHOULD, MAYBE WE CAN ASK THEM TO DO THAT.

REALLY SHOULD BE PROPERTY TAXES.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE HAVE, WELL, OUR COUNTY TAXES, YOU KNOW, WE PAY $5,000 WHEN IT'S SCHOOL.

IT'S CITY, IT'S COUNTY, JUNIOR COLLEGE AND ALL THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

BUT THAT TO BE A TRULY REFLECTIVE, UH, PART OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING, IT'S NOT JUST KAUFMAN COUNTY TAXES.

THAT'S, BUT THAT'S THE MESSAGE IT SENDS, I THINK.

BUT ON THEIR TAX STATEMENT HERE, IT DOES BREAK IT ALL DOWN 'EM.

RIGHT.

SO, BUT WHENEVER SOMEBODY GETS THEIR ANNUAL UPDATE, YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE YOUR, UH, ESCROW AMOUNT MM-HMM .

IT COUNTY TAXES, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE WE CAN GET 'EM TO LEAVE THE WORD COUNTY OFF.

YEAH.

OR JUST CHANGE IT FOR PROPERTY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

JUST TAXES.

ANYBODY ELSE SEE THAT? OR HAVE, I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

BUT I MEAN, IT'S WOULD BE NICE THE, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE TAXES? I DO A CONTINUATION, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT A WHILE AGO.

WHY IS OUR DATA NOT BEING THE SAME FOR THIS OFFICE AND THIS OFFICE, IF IT'S GONNA BE THROUGH APRIL 30TH, ARE WE NOT ON THE SAME BOOKKEEPING SYSTEM? THERE'S A MILLION AND HALF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE OFFICER SHOWS BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US.

AND BOTH OF US WON'T BE THROUGH APRIL 30TH.

RIGHT.

IN MY REPORT, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT HER TAXES ARE SPLIT BETWEEN THREE DIFFERENT FUNDS.

OKAY.

GENERAL FUND, ROAD AND BRIDGE AND DEBT SERVICE.

SO THAT PERCENTAGE THAT YOU ALLOT OF THAT TAX RATE GOES INTO THOSE THREE DIFFERENT FUNDS.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADD THOSE THREE FUNDS FOR IT TO MATCH WHAT SHE'S REPORTING.

IF THERE'S NOT A TIMING ISSUE, IF THERE'S, AT THE END OF THE MONTH, IF SHE WRITES A CHECK TO THE TREASURER, IF THEY DON'T RECEDE IT IN THAT MONTH, WE'LL NEVER MATCH BECAUSE WE JUST DID ONE THE OTHER DAY.

IT WAS A LARGE ONE.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

I DON'T THINK IT WENT INTO YOUR POT YET.

NO, WE WERE TRYING, WE WERE GONNA TRY TO DO TRANSFERS WHERE SHE COULD ACTUALLY TRANSFER THE MONEY TO OUR BANK ACCOUNTS WHERE WE'D GET 'EM THAT DAY.

AND FOR SOME REASON, UH, ANOTHER PARTY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO WE STILL HAVE, SHE STILL HAS TO WRITE US MANUAL CHECKS.

YEAH.

I'M JUST, JUST ASSUMING THAT WE'RE FOR NEW ACCOUNTING SYSTEM IS WORKING LIKE I WAS HOPING IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT THE NUMBERS WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME AND NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT, IT SHOULDN'T.

AND YOU'RE GIVING US ONE NUMBER AND SHE'S GIVING US ANOTHER NUMBER AND IT'LL, BY THE FIFTH OF THE MONTH, IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME NUMBER, I GUESS.

RIGHT?

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I, I DUNNO HOW, HOW TO FIX THAT.

WELL, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM BY NOT WRITING ACCOUNT, NOT WRITING CHECKS ANYMORE, BUT MAKING EVERYTHING GO THROUGH, UM, A TRANSFER.

'CAUSE WE CAN TRANSFER MONEY WITHOUT WRITING CHECKS.

UM, SOME PEOPLE WOULD RATHER US WRITE CHECKS, THEN IT TAKES LONGER FOR THEM TO DEPOSIT AND GET IT INTO THE COUNTY ACCOUNT.

I WOULD JUST SOON HAVE, MAKE EVERYTHING ELECTRONIC TRANSFER.

UH, AND, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND IT'D PROBABLY MAKE THINGS MORE EVEN ALL THE WAY AROUND SO I CAN JUST START DOING ALL ELECTRONIC TRANSFER.

WE'LL PROBABLY BE UP TO SPEED THAT WAY.

I'LL DO THAT.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE, WE ACCEPT, I KNOW WE ACCEPT THE TAX COURT.

WE HAVE A REPORT FROM, I MEAN A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED ALL.

JACK, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND GIVE US A REPORT ON THE, UH, AUCTION THAT WAS HELD IN MARCH 20 13TH? YES, SIR.

THINK YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS.

UH, TOTAL SALES, UH, AT THE AUCTION WAS $199,420 80 CENTS.

WE HAD A, UH, UH, ONE ITEM REFUNDED AND WE HAD ONE ITEM THAT, UH, THEY FAILED TO PAY FOR.

AND THAT GAVE US A TOTAL OF 1 97, 3 20 0.8.

AND AFTER THE, UH, COMMISSION, UH, THE NET AMOUNT TO COLMAN COUNTY WAS 185,000, EXCUSE ME, 183,000 5 0 8 0.34.

UM, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT OPTION.

I THINK IT, I THINK IT WENT REAL WELL.

UM, EVEN THE, UH, POLICE CARD, I DON'T THINK WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD BRING AS MUCH AS THEY DID, BUT THE AVERAGE POLICE CAR WAS $3,140 CHANGE.

AND I THINK THE CROWN VS.

AVERAGED ABOUT 1641 A PIECE.

BUT, UH, I THINK THE AUCTION WENT REAL WELL.

I AGREE.

AGREE.

COMPARED OTHER OPTIONS.

IS THIS OUR LARGEST? UH, UH, I THINK IF YOU, UH, UH, UNLESS YOU FACTOR IN SOME OF THE BIG CAP THAT I THINK WE SOLD PRECINCT THREE A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGER ONES YESTERDAY, PROBABLY ONE, UH, WHENEVER YOU SELL A CAP, IT'S $195 THAT BRINGS IT UP.

BUT BASED ON EQUIP, WE HAD, I'M REAL PLEASED WITH YOU AND I THINK, UH, RENEE REMAINS THE BEST SOLUTION.

ALSO FEEL LIKE THE POLICY THAT WAS SAID, LIKE IF YOU GET A NEW CAR, YOU TURN IN A A CAR.

I THINK THAT THAT, THAT, UH, THESE, THESE USED, UH, POLICE CRUISERS, I THINK THAT SHOWS A DIFFERENCE.

YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO TURN THOSE CARS IN INSTEAD OF STRIPPING 'EM FOR PARTS.

I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE, OBVIOUSLY.

SO I THINK IT HELPED US, UH, IF THERE WAS SOME MINOR EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEEDED TO BUY FOR THE NEW TAHOE SHOTGUN RACKS, THAT SORT OF THING, THAT ABLE TO, TO BUY THOSE ITEMS WITH THAT MONEY.

AND I THINK, I THINK WE DID REAL WELL.

AND I AGREE IT KEEPS THE FLEET DOWN AND, UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

WHEN WILL THESE FUNDS SHOW UP IN THERE? UH, I PRESENT THAT TO, UH, SHOULD BE THERE.

UH, I GAVE THAT TO JOHNNY PROBABLY WHAT, 10 DAYS AGO? NO, WE, I WAS HOPING TO GET, YOU KNOW, PRECINCT THREE PRECINCT.

NOT HARDLY.

I WAS GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION.

WOULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR ME TO GET CREDIT FOR WHAT I SOLD IN MINE AND NOT GIVE IT TO PRECINCT THREE ? THAT'D BE UP TO YOU, SIR.

, YOU DID, YOU DID GET CREDIT FOR THAT WATER TANK THAT WE SOLD OVER FOR 30.

OH, DID WE, DID WE SKIP YOU? YEAH, I DID GET ANY CREDIT FOR IT AT ALL.

, I'M MAKING YOU APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT WAS HUNDRED, ACTUALLY IT WAS 3 250.

WE'LL MAKE A CORRECTION.

THANK YOU SIR.

ALTHOUGH WE, WE DID A DEAL WITH, UH, I TOOK JIMMY'S OLD CHIP SPREADER, HE HAD ME GIVE MY GOOD CHIP.

SO WE MADE A TRADE THERE.

SO IT ALL WORKS OUT.

YOU JUST BROTHER 32 50, PROBABLY LESS COMMISSIONED OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT WAS 32 50 WHAT IT SOLD FOR.

YEAH, WE'LL FIX THAT.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW I WANT YOU TO GET TOGETHER AND ALL THAT STUFF.

YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME MORE.

WE, WE CAN, WHENEVER WE HAVE A CHANCE TO START GETTING UP.

I THINK WE, ONCE AGAIN, WE NEED TO SELL US TWO VEHICLES THAT WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT THOSE GUNS GONE AND SO WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE QUICK OPTION.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

YOU DO.

I'VE GOT ANOTHER THING TO GO .

SO WE'LL GET THAT WORK.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JACK? NO.

GOOD JOB, JACK, SIR, MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE TO ACCEPT THE, UH, COURT FOR THE COUNTY SURPLUS, UH, ONLINE AUCTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND, MR. MANNING.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE APPROVED.

THOSE OPPOSED, I'M SORRY.

I'M HAVING TOUGH TROUBLE TALKING THIS MORNING.

ALRIGHT, JACK, YOU JUST STAY UP BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TALK NEXT ABOUT AWARDING.

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UH, RFP NUMBER OH THREE DASH 13 INMATE HEALTH CARE SERVICES PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION PROGRAM.

GENERALLY, WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS.

UM, ONE WAS WITH, ONE WAS CHC, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT VENDOR, AND, UH, SOUTHERN HEALTH PARTNERS, UH, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDED VENDOR TODAY.

UH, WE HAD A COMMITTEE THAT CONSISTED OF, UH, LISA CALLAHAN, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, UH, CAPTAIN COMPTON, CHIEF STONE, CHIEF BEAVERS, AND, UH, NIKKI MORTON.

AND THE, ON THE AVERAGE, UH, SCORE FOR CHC WAS 71.7.

THE AVERAGE SCORE FOR SHP WAS 82.5.

SO A LOT OF THE GRADING OUT, UH, SHP HAD HAD THE OFFICER SCORE.

UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THEIR ORIGINAL QUOTE, UH, OPTION ONE, I GUESS, UH, WHICH, UH, MET OUR NEEDS BETTER WAS 580,200.

UH, DURING THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS, WE, WE REALIZED THAT, UH, THEY WERE NOT HAVING ENOUGH HOURS FOR THE DENTIST AND THAT WAS AN INCREASE OF, UM, 18,600 GOING FROM THREE HOURS PER WEEK TO EIGHT HOURS PER WEEK.

IT FELT LIKE WE NEEDED THAT EXTRA, EXTRA, UH, TIME FOR THE DENTIST.

UH, ORIGINALLY THEY HAD A PER DIEM RATE OF A DOLLAR 25 FOR ANYTHING THAT WENT OVER THREE 30 DURING THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS.

UH, THEY REDUCED THAT TO 75 CENTS.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO, THEY OFFERED TO, UH, GIVE US 35 CENTS OFF PER DAY WHEN IT FELL BELOW THE THREE 30.

UH, SO I THINK THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A GOOD, GOOD, UH, GOAL THERE.

UH, NET, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT 598,000, UH, 800 THAT IS WITH THE ADDITIONAL, UH, DENTIST TIME, THAT'S A, THAT'S A SAVINGS OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING FOR.

AND, AND WHAT WAS BID THIS TIME OF, UH, JUST UNDER 122,000, IF YOU FACTOR IN THAT WE NEED TO, UH, THAT'S BASED ON A DAILY POPULATION OF THREE 30.

IF WE WERE TO HAVE A POPULATION OF 400, WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HAPPEN, BUT IF, IF THAT WAS THE CASE, UH, WE WOULD STILL SEE A SAVINGS, A PROFIT SAVINGS OF 103,000 CURRENT, UH, CONTRACT.

AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB ON REVIEWING THIS AND, UH, UH, IT'S GONNA SAVE THE COUNTY OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND LOOKS LIKE.

GREAT.

I, I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD TO, UH, SOUTHERN HEALTH PARTNERS.

I MOVE THE AWARD CONTRACT.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, FLORENCE.

AND WHO SET COMMISSIONER WHO, WHO YOU WERE ON THE COMMITTEE? YES, SIR.

AND WHO ELSE? WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS MOTION COMMISSIONER.

I MEAN, ANYTIME WE SAVE 120,000, I BELIEVE YOU SAID.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THE, UH, THE PEOPLE AT THE JAIL.

UH, NOBODY LIKES CHANGE.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'VE GOT.

UH, THEY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GET.

THESE OTHER PEOPLE, IT APPEARS WE'RE GONNA GET THE, THE SAME SERVICE THAT WE'VE GOT, BUT WITH THE SAVINGS OF $120,000 AND IT WAS, UH, IF YOU JUST DID SERVICE PER SERVICE, IT WAS ALL A GOOD THING.

BUT THEN THE, THE COST SAVINGS, UH, WAS, THEY WERE VERY, VERY AMENABLE TO SAVING OLD MONEY THEY COULD OUT THERE.

GOOD.

AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR THAT PART.

I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE THING, JUDGE.

THAT IS THAT, UH, UH, THE COUNTY IS VERY CONCERNED THAT, UH, THE NEW VENDOR, UH, TRIED TO RETAIN THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES AND THAT'S THEIR GOAL TO NEGOTIATE WITH THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE.

SO, UH, BETTER WORK FOR THE OTHER COMPANY.

RIGHT.

THEY SEEM VERY WANTING TO DO THAT.

ANOTHER CAVEAT IN, IN THIS, ON THIS CONTRACT, THEY'RE GONNA HOLD THIS PRICE FOR TWO YEARS, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, WE'RE, WE HAVE, UH, SO WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AN INCREASE, UH, TWO YEARS AT THE SAME PRICE AND THE THIRD YEAR, I THINK A 2% INCREASE AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING ABOUT A 2% OR BETTER EACH YEAR ON PREVIOUS CONTRACT.

SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

I KNOW WE'RE DOING AN RFP FOR THE, UH, CONTRACTING OUT OF THE JAIL SERVICES.

MOST OF THOSE CONTRACTS I THINK ALSO PROVIDE MEDICAL.

UH, I I THINK THEY CAN.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SO WE COULD, HOW WILL THAT WORK WHEN WE START GETTING THOSE PROPOSALS BACK IN? WE, WE COULD REQUIRE THAT, UH, THAT BETTER TAKE ON OUR, THIS CONTRACT.

OKAY.

OR COULD WE ALSO REQUIRE THAT THEY BID OUT THE MEDICAL AS PART OF THE CONTRACT? JUST TO COMPARE OR WE LOCKED IN, INTO THIS? WE, WE HAVE A 60 DAY OUT.

I, I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, UH, IF THAT WAS TO

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HAPPEN, THAT WE HAVE THAT, UH, VENDOR MAYBE, UH, UH, KEEP OUR CURRENT CONTRACT FOR ONE YEAR.

OKAY.

I THINK WHEN WE MAY OR MAY NOT REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST BID OUT, UH, THIS HEALTH CONTRACT, WE HAD VARIOUS CONTRACTS.

WE HAD A CONTRACT WITH THE DENTIST, MOBILE X-RAY, UH, BLOOD WORK, UH, VARIOUS CONTRACTS.

AND WE HAVE THE, UH, VENDOR HONOR OUR CONTRACT EVERY YEAR.

THEY COULD BE PUT CHEAPER THAN WE DO, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT RIGHT.

UNTIL WE GET, GET THE PROPOSAL.

ALRIGHTYY ITEM NUMBER 14 IS, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER JEFF'S HERE OR NOT, TANYA, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE, IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RESALE PROPERTIES FOR MAY THE 14TH, WHICH IS TOMORROW, UH, TAX RESALE.

AND I KNOW YOU HAD ONE OF THESE DOWN IN, UH, HENDERSON COUNTY.

DID WE NOT VOTE ON THE LAST ONE? WE HAVE VOTE ON.

HAD A MOTION ONE.

ANGIE, ALL IN.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

OR DID WE APPROVE IT? WE JUST DIDN'T VOTE ON IT.

Y'ALL DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE DETAILS.

.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

I WANT TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE HERE.

WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

WE JUST VOTED ON.

I'M GLAD.

WELL, I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE VOTED ON, UH, APPROVING THE, UH, HEALTHCARE PRESCRIPTION SERVICES PROPERTIES.

WELL, WE'RE JUST FIXING TO HEAR FROM THAT .

I WAS LIKE, OKAY.

THE TEXT RESALE LIST THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAD, UM, ALL THIS IS, IS, UH, DID YOU GO, DID YOU GET COPIES OF THIS? OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO LET'S GO BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU.

THIS IS PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN THAT WE TRIED TO SELL IT ONCE BEFORE ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS AND IT DIDN'T SELL AND THEN WE HAD TO WAIT FOR THE SIX MONTHS OR TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOR THE REDEMPTION PERIOD TO BE OVER, DEPENDING ON IF THERE'S A HOUSE OR NOT ON IT.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CITIES, THE SCHOOLS AND THE COUNTY AND EVERYBODY GET PERMISSION.

WE GET PERMISSION FROM EVERYBODY TO USE THIS NUMBER THAT'S ON HERE AS THE OPENING BID.

SO THE CITIES AND SCHOOLS HAVE AGREED ALREADY AND NOW WE'RE ASKING THE COUNTY TO AGREE TO THIS OPENING BID FOR THESE LOTS THAT ARE FOR SALE SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SELL THEM TOMORROW NIGHT IN TAR.

THAT'S GONNA BE AT THE CITY HALL? WELL, IT'LL BE AT THEIR CITY.

YEAH.

THEIR COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON MASS STREET.

YES.

RIGHT.

AND THIS, THERE'S IS THERE, IS THERE AN UPDATED LIST? UM, THIS ONE WAS FROM MAY 14TH.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE? MAY 14TH SIX.

YEAH, THAT'S IT.

6:30 PM YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE.

WHAT IS THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT OF ALL THESE? I DIDN'T ADD IT UP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALL GONNA SELL ANYWAY.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE A RESALE, RESALE RE RETAIL RESALE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT THESE LOTS.

OKAY.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE HAVE TO RESALE RESELL IT EACH TIME WE, WE GET THE ENTITIES ASK IF THEY'LL GO LOWER OPENING BID.

IF SOME OF THESE LOTS, THE OPENING BID, UH, SOME CITIES OR SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAY BE INSISTING THAT THAT'S A GOOD PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEY'RE OPENING BID, THEY'LL GO MORE THAN $6,000 AND NOBODY'S GONNA PAY THAT FOR THAT LOT.

SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO RESELL AND KEEP GETTING THE BIDS LOWER UNTIL WE GET A BID THAT SOMEBODY WILL ACCEPT.

IN HENDERSON COUNTY, WE SOLD A WHOLE BUNCH OF LOTS IN MAYBANK FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

WE FINALLY HAD TO GET 'EM DOWN A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO GET 'EM OFF THE BOOKS TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE PAYING THE TAXES.

AS LONG AS WE HOLD THEM, WE'RE NOT GETTING TAX MONEY ON 'EM.

SO WE WANNA SELL 'EM AND HAVING TO MOW SOME OF THEM.

YEAH.

AND THE ONE AT CAMP WENT PRETTY WELL, DID IT NOT? YES, IT DID.

IT WENT VERY WELL.

SOLD A LOT.

DID UH, I KNOW THERE HAD BEEN SOME LEGAL NOTICES.

WERE ANY OF THE NEWSPAPERS ABLE TO GIVE US ANY OTHER PUBLICITY ABOUT IT OR DO YOU KNOW? WELL THERE, UH, WE DO HAVE TO PRINT THEM, HAVE SOME NOTICE SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY, UH, BEFORE THEY, THEY GO OUT FOR SALE.

OKAY.

BUT, UH, I GUESS HERE THEY ARE NOW.

SO, UH, DONE.

YEAH, EVERYTHING'S BEEN DONE.

WE'RE JUST WAITING.

AND THE CITY AND SCHOOLS HAVE AGREED.

WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE IF THE COUNTY WILL AGREE WITH THIS.

IS THIS ON OUR WEBSITE BY CHANCE? ANYWHERE? UH, THE SALE LIST IS ON THE WEBSITE.

WE USUALLY PUT THIS UP ONCE IT'S ALL APPROVED.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT APPROVED YET TO SELL THE OPENING BED.

THE OPENING BED.

ALRIGHT, DYLAN, HOW DO YOU FEEL? I BE APPROVE.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER SHANE AND A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU TANYA FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

WHO WAS YOUR SECOND? ALL RIGHT.

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ITEM NUMBER 15 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A CONTRACT WITH ROBERT NER FOR THE HIGHWAY 34 PROJECT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.

RIGHT.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YES, SIR.

I PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.

UH, WE HAVE TO, THE COUNTY HAS AGREED TO PURCHASE A DRIVEWAY FOR THE HIGHWAY 34, UH, PHASE ONE PROJECT.

ACTUALLY, WE WE'RE GONNA DO BOTH PARTS OF IT.

AND SINCE ROBERT NER IS DOING THE PASTURE FINANCING, WHAT, SCOTT, YOU'LL COME UP EXPLAIN WHAT Y'ALL POSITION WITH THE CITY OF KAMAN IS.

YES SIR.

THIS IS SCOTT YOUNG.

HE'S A, UH, A PARTNER OR WHAT DO YOU, WHAT'S YOUR PROFESSIONAL TITLE? SCOTT P, VICE PRESIDENT.

SERGEANT BASS.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, JUDGE COMMISSIONER, MY NAME IS SCOTT YOUNG.

I'M WITH THE ROBERT KISSNER INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, WE ARE A ENGINEERING FIRM LOCATED IN, UM, DALLAS.

AND THROUGHOUT THE, THE STATE, UH, I RUN THE NORTH TEXAS OPERATIONS, UM, FOR THE COMPANY.

UH, WE ARE THE, UH, PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF KAUFMAN UNDER THEIR PASS THROUGH TOLL PROGRAM.

PASTOR TOLL PROGRAM IS A INNOVATIVE FINANCING TOOL THAT TXDOT HAS EMPLOYED TO ALLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ADVANCE THEIR NEEDED PROJECTS AND TXDOT WILL REIMBURSE THEM FOR PORTIONS OF THE COST OVER TIME.

SO THE PROJECT THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY BOTH SECTIONS OF STATE HIGHWAY 34.

AND THEN THIS LAST TIME UNDER THE SUBMISSION, THEY GOT APPROVED FOR THE SOUTH SECTION AND I CALL IT NORTH OR SOUTH.

'CAUSE THE PROJECT GOES FROM 2 43, UH, DOWNTOWN TO WHERE IT TIES BACK IN TO 34, UH, ON THE KIND OF THE SOUTHWEST SIDE AND NORTH AND SOUTH BEING, UH, 1 75.

SO THE NORTH SECTION IS FROM 2 43 TO 1 75.

AND THEN THE SOUTH SECTION 1 75 SOUTH.

SO, SORRY, THIS IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED ABOUT THIS.

AND THEN THAT FIRST POINT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK MENTIONED, WHICH WAS THE NORTH SECTION HA, IS A VERY KIND OF COMPLICATED FUNDING BECAUSE THE STR, THE STATE HAD AGREED TO PAY THAT PORTION FOR THAT PROJECT WITH STATE MONEY, FED MONEY, UM, OTHER KIND OF POTS OF MONEY THAT THEY WERE GETTING.

UH, THE COUNTY AGREED FOR FUNDING ON IT.

UM, AND TO USE THEIR LEVERAGING TO DO THAT UNDER A RIGHT OF WAY COST, THE CITY'S ALSO PUTTING IN MONEY ON THAT NORTH COST.

SO THAT'S ALL HAPPENING ON THE NORTH SECTION.

AND THAT INCLUDED THE OVERPASS OVER ONCE THAT ARRIVED? YES.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY KEY BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG EXPENSIVE PART OF THAT, THAT THE STATE AGREED TO THE INTER INTERCHANGE COST.

THEN FROM THE INTERCHANGE, THE SOUTH PART OF THAT INTERCHANGE SOUTH, UH, THE CITY IS PICKING UP THAT, THAT COST FOR THAT THEN GETTING REIMBURSED BY THE STATE FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE LAYOUT OF THE FUNDING MECHANISM.

UH, WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED FOR YOU THIS MORNING IS FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION COST.

UH, THE, UM, CITY WAS GONNA HELP WITH THAT, BUT IT DIDN'T, IT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE FOR THE COUNTY SINCE THE COUNTY FUNDING, UM, FOR THAT.

THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCESS.

I DUNNO IF THAT MADE ANY SENSE.

KIND OF WENT THROUGH THAT QUICKLY.

ON THE NORTH SIDE YOU SAID IT'S FUNDED BY THE TEXDOT AND THE COUNTY AND UM, IT'S ACTUALLY TDOT, UM, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, THERE'S FED DOLLARS, WHICH, UH, UNDER THIS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS IS CALLED STP SERVICE TRANSPORTATION SLASH METROPOLITAN MOBILITY FUNDING.

THERE WAS SOME OTHER MAINTENANCE MONEY THAT THEY SHIFTED OVER.

WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY GOT REAL CREATIVE TO FUND THE NORTH SECTION, BUT IT ALSO NEEDED LOCAL FUNDS IN THE TWO PARTS OF THE LOCAL FUNDS FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

AND SO BOTH OF THOSE ENTITIES THEN HELPED TO MAKE THAT A, A WIN.

SO THE NORTH SIDE WAS FUNDED BY THE COUNTY, THE CITY AND TCO YEAH.

AND FEDEX AND THE AND THE AND THE RTC.

YES, SIR.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S, AND THAT WAS KIND OF THAT, WHEN I SAY FED, THAT'S THE RTC IS THE HELP.

YES.

THEY PUT ALL THE MONEY TOGETHER, ALL THOSE POTS TOGETHER TO GET THIS DONE WITH.

AND THIS TO GET THIS DONE WITH ALSO INCLUDE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE BRIDGE IN TERRELL BRIDGE, THE BRIDGE IN FARNEY.

AND THESE $750,000 IN CRAN GRAND.

AND OUR COMMITMENT, IT WAS TO PRIMARILY IS TO ASSIST ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, WHICH I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

AND, UH, THE CITY'S BEEN WORKING ON GETTING SOME OF THAT DONATED.

WE'VE BEEN A LOT HARDER TO GET SOME OF IT DONATED.

AND THAT'S THE QUESTION WE HAVE FOR, FOR SCOTT IN YOUR CONTRACT, YOU'LL ONLY PROCEED ON THOSE PROCESS THAT WE TELL YOU TO

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PROCEED ON.

YOU GOING OR THE CONTRACT LATER WOULD PROCEED ON ALL THOSE.

AND THEN SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE DOESN'T NEED TO BE REPEATED.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE PAID FOR TITLE WORK ON ALL OF THEM.

NOW SOME OF 'EM HAVE BEEN CHANGED VERSUS THE PDFI WAS JUST GAVE YOU.

BUT, UH, THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, CAN WE USE THE, THE IDEA IS , WE'VE ALREADY SPENT OUR MONEY OFF.

YES, YES SIR.

THE, UM, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY CLEARED, UM, TO THEN TO BACK UP IN THE FIRST PART OF THAT, LET'S SAY WHAT ALL HAS BEEN ACQUIRED, DONATED, UH, THERE'S A ACTUALLY A LOT THAT IS ALREADY IN EITHER THE CITY OR THE COUNTY NAME.

SO THERE'S NO WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

UH, THEY KIND OF PACKAGE ALL THAT UP, UM, ULTIMATELY TO GIVE TO THE STATE.

UH, LEES HELPED, UM, TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THE OTHER RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THEN, UH, WE WILL SEE WHAT'S REMAINING, UM, SEE IF THERE'S OTHER EVEN POTENTIAL TO GET MORE OF IT DONATED.

WE HELP THE, UH, CITY GET, UM, UM, UM, KINGS CREEK PARKWAY, THAT LAST REMAINING PIECE DONATED.

SO, UM, WE WILL, UH, FIRST TRYING TO GET THE REST OF IT DONATED.

THAT'S HELPS YOUR COST TREMENDOUSLY.

THEN IT'LL START THEN THE PROCESS TO, UH, BUT THE, THE, THE DIFFICULT ONES LIKE THE, THE, UH, DENIAL OF ACCESS ON 1 75 AND THE UH, UH, THE RAILROAD.

WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE THAT TO US.

RIGHT.

STARTING ON IMMEDIATELY.

DO WE HAVE TO DO, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LOW WAY TO GET SOME THINGS ON OUR OWN? HOWEVER, THAT TIMEFRAME IS, I'VE GOTTA GIVE A REPORT BACK TO MO OF THIS AFTERNOON IS, IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO, HOW WE'RE GONNA KNOCK THIS OUT TO GET THIS BILL, NOT THIS CONTRACT IN DECEMBER.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS FIXING TO ASK.

THEY WANT TO START THE CONTRACT IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO GET DONE BETWEEN NOW AND YEAH, HE'S LOOKING AT DOES HE NEED TO EXTEND THAT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES? NO.

WELL, ALL THAT WORKS, BUT, UH, I'VE GOT UNTIL TODAY TO TELL HIM WHAT YEAR AND I, AND WELL, ALL OF US HAVE AGREED ON, UH, TIMEFRAME.

ARE WE GONNA MAKE THAT? YEAH.

WE'LL WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY.

WE, WE WANT 34 NORTH GOING AND THAT'S TO, THAT'S TO GET THE COUNTY'S BENEFIT TO GET THAT GOING.

THAT'S GONNA HELP ECONOMICS.

IT'LL HELP WITH YOUR COLLECTIVE TAXES.

WHAT WE JUST HEAR ABOUT, UM, GETTING MORE PEOPLE TRANSPORTATION THAT WANTED DELAY.

THAT ONE WHY THE RAILROAD WAS, WOULD BE SO HARD TO, THEY JUST GENERALLY THAT IT'S ALMOST A POLICY.

THEY WON'T GIVE ANYTHING AWAY.

IT COULD BE A FRIENDLY CONDEMNATION.

I KNOW THAT DOESN'T SOUND QUITE ACCURATE, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS IT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE WHEREBY YOU WOULD HAVE JUST THE SPECIAL COMMISSIONERS AND THEN THEY TAKE THE VALUE.

COULD BE HOPEFULLY, WELL MAYBE YOU, YOU CAN'T BE USED.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA BUILD ABLE A RAILROAD ON YOU CAN'T IT DEAD ENDS TOO.

IF IT WAS CONTINUOUS, THEY MIGHT USE IT FOR SOMETHING DOWN THERE.

BUT THIS IS, THAT'S AN OLD REMEDY CASE.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE DEALING WITH ANOTHER ENTITY THAT HAS GOT MULTIPLE LAYERS OF YEAH.

BUREAUCRACY HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S GONNA BE A DIFFICULT, THAT MAY BE THE ONLY TIME.

MAYBE IT MAY JUST BE A TIMING THAT JUST MAKES IT DIFFICULT.

BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT MAY BE THE ONLY RAILROAD IN TOWN, BUT THEY TRY NOT TO ACT LIKE IT .

AND I'D LIKE TO COMMAND THE CITY OF KAUFMAN FOR, UH, RESOLVING SOME OF THESE HIGHER DOLLAR RIGHT OF WAY ISSUES THROUGH PLATY.

I MEAN, THAT IS GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF MONEY ON OUR END OF THE FOREST.

RIGHT OF WAY GOES.

WE DO HAVE A STRAIGHT STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN THAT IS OUT OUR, THAT WE WILL PAY FOR THIS DRIVEWAY.

UH, WE APPROVED THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND UH, SO THE FUNDING IS IN PLACE FOR THAT.

WE'VE NOT PAID ANYTHING.

I DON'T THINK WE PAID ANYTHING OUT YET.

UH, BUT UH, THAT'S THE FUNDING IS IN PLACE TO DO THAT.

AND THAT WAS THE CONTRIBUTION THAT THE COUNTY MADE TO GET ALL OF THE $80 MILLION WORTH OF WORK GOING ON IN THE COUNTY WE HAVE GOING ON NOW.

THAT WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT.

THAT'S A NICE LEVERAGING, LEVERAGING AND GETTING TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS BETWEEN THE COUNTY, UM, HELPING WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE CITY, GETTING THE PASS THROUGH PROJECTS.

THAT'S HOW YOU GET YOUR YES, SIR.

AND JOHN, DO YOU HAVE OVERLOOKED CONTRACT YOU SAID? I HAVE.

I HAVE.

IT'S A VERY WELL DRAFTED CONTRACT.

IT HAS THREE EXHIBITS.

UH, ONE OF THE EXHIBITS DESCRIBES WITH GREAT SPECIFICITY OF THE PARTICULAR TASK THEY WOULD DO, SO THE COUNTY WOULD KNOW AT EACH INCREMENT WHAT TASKS ROBERT KISSNER IS DOING AND WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE CROSS WOULD BE.

SO THAT'S, UM,

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VERY GOOD TO SEE.

AND, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S VERY, UH, AND, AND IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT ON WHAT IT PRESENTS.

THANK YOU.

SO I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH IT, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT OUR TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT UNDER THAT.

SCOTT.

OH YEAH.

.

OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

NO, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT, UH, OR APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH ROBERT KISSINGER FOR THE HIGHWAY 34 RIDE OF WADE PROJECT ACQUISITION.

I MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND SIR? COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND MOTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A, THOSE POSTS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER 16 IS LINE ITEM TRANSFERS BE SUBMITTED TO YOU BY EMAIL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY CHANGE IN THE SHERIFF'S FORM AT THAT BUDGET TIME? DID WE NOT GET A QUOTE FROM SOMEBODY ON WHAT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? SURE.

WELL, WHY IS IT, UH, WHY IS IT MORE THAN, WOULD I GET GOOD QUOTE OR IS THERE, I DON'T THINK WE'VE GIVEN WHO FURNISHES THAT NUMBER TO US.

UM, I HAVE, SEE, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT THIS YEAR AND MAKE SURE THEY GIVE US THE RIGHT NUMBER.

WE KIND OF WENT BY THE LAST THREE WASN'T QUOTE, QUOTE THEN, SO IT WASN'T, I NEVER SEEN QUOTE.

THIS IS THE TRANSFER TO ALL THE ROAD BRIDGE FUNDS AND THEN THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S SUBMITTED TO I MAY WE APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND, UH, SHANE MAKES THE SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A.

THOSE OPPOSED.

OKAY.

NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIM FOR PAYMENT.

AND Y'ALL WANT TO JUST KEEP WORKING OR YOU NEED ANYBODY? OKAY.

LET'S TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK 10 SHIFT.

THANK YOU.

I'M STILL WORKING ON SAVINGS MONEY.

I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

YOU'RE DOING GOOD.

OKAY.

OUR BILLS AMOUNT TO THE MEETING 643,000 FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE SIXTEEN.

AND THE REASON WHY IT'S SO MUCH IS BECAUSE WE DID NOT PAY THE APRIL TAX HEALTH INSURANCE UNTIL THE 30TH BECAUSE WE DIDN'T RECEIVE IT TO GET IT PAID.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PAYING TWO.

SO I KNOW HE'S GONNA SEE IT AND ASK ME IF IT'S A DOUBLE PAYMENT, BUT IT'S NOT.

OKAY.

I VISITED WITH SEVERAL COUNTY AUDITORS IN THE PROCESS, THE BILLS, AND MOST ALL THE COUNTIES DO IT THE SAME WAY THAT WE'RE DOING IT.

IF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF 'EM ARE SMALLER, IT DOESN'T TAKE THEM AS LONG.

THAT SAID, THERE IS A STATE STATUTE THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REVIEW THESE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT BEFORE THEY GET PAID.

HOW YOU REVIEW THEM IS NOT DESCRIBED.

SO YOU NEED TO COME UP WITH A, A SIMPLE METHOD.

OKAY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER.

WE CAN GO TO THE, YOU'RE WAITING NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRONICALLY LOOKING AT 'EM, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF, AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE WE JUST GET HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT TOM AND KEN ARE GOING TO BE SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE.

REMEMBER WE DID THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.

I'M, I'M JUST KIND OF UPDATING ALL Y'ALL WHAT I LEARNED, BUT WHY ARE YOU WAITING ON A, A, A RULING OR SOMETHING FROM I'M NOT.

OH, I JUST DIDN'T, I MISUNDERSTOOD.

I JUST BEEN, I JUST BEEN BUSY.

I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET IT DONE.

YEAH, BUT THEY DON'T SAY HOW WE LOOK AT IT, ARE WE? NO, THE LAW DOESN'T SAY HOW YOU DID.

THEY JUST SAY THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REVIEW 'EM FOR PAYMENT.

SO IF WE SENT THEM BY EMAIL, YOU LOOK THROUGH 'EM AND MARK THE ONES THAT YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT AND THEN YOU APPROVE THE WHOLE AMOUNT OF BILLS, THEN WE'RE OKAY.

AND, BUT THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED BEFORE WE GET HERE.

IN OTHER WORDS, GIVE YOU TIME TO LOOK UP

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THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE BILLS.

YOU WOULDN'T GET THE BILLS UNTIL FRIDAY.

AND I MEAN, IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO WORK ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AND BE HERE OR TAKE THE BILLS HOME WITH ME, I GUESS I COULD.

BUT HOW, WHAT, HOW DO OTHER COUNTIES DO IT? THAT USE, THEY'RE DOING IT A SIMILAR WAY THAT WE DO IT.

YEAH.

ALL POLK COUNTY, THEY GET 'EM IN THEIR PACKET AND THEY LOOK AT 'EM AND THEY'LL SAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO PAY THE BILL.

I MOTION MAKE THE MOTION TO PAY THE BILL.

SECOND, THEY DON'T USUALLY EVER ASK QUESTIONS.

IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION, THEY COME TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND ACTUALLY SEE THE BILL.

OKAY.

BUT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR AGENDAS A WEEK BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY MEET.

SO THEY HAD SEVERAL DAYS TO LOOK AT AND MOST OF 'EM ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM MEETING ONCE A WEEK.

ALSO.

LIKE HENDERSON COUNTY, I TALKED TO A COMMISSIONER OVER THERE LAST WEEK.

THEY MEET ONCE A WEEK ON TUESDAY.

WELL THAT, SO THEY HAVE, UH, FRIDAY AND MONDAY TO I'M GOING BACK TO BACK MEETING TWICE.

I MEAN, BUT THAT'S, I, I LIKED, I LIKED EVERY TWO WEEKS FOR MYSELF.

I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO, OKAY, I'M GONNA SPLIT THESE, I SPLIT THESE UP TO MAKE THEM AS SMALL BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY BILLS.

ALL I WANT TO DO IS FIND A WAY THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEIR BILLS AND GET ANY ANSWERS BEFORE.

AND, AND IF YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE SAY THAT THE REQUEST FOR AGENDA ITEMS HAVE TO BE IN ON LIKE WEDNESDAY, I THINK.

MM-HMM .

AND I MEAN WE COULD MOVE THAT TO TUESDAY AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE YOU TIME TO HAVE THE BILL PRINTED UP TO GO INTO THE, THEIR PACKETS I GUESS.

BUT WOULD THAT WORK ON Y'ALL SCHEDULE AS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW? UH, COME UP HERE WHERE MAKING HEARING PLEASE.

AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, UH, WE TAKE ANY OF THE, ANY INVOICES THAT WE GET BY WEDNESDAY, WE'LL PUT THOSE IN FOR THAT.

UM, TEXT ON MONDAY.

SO WE, UH, ADD EVERYTHING UP ON, UH, THURSDAY AND WE CAN HAVE IT SENT TO YOU GUYS BY THURSDAY OR FRIDAY.

UH, WE REALLY COULDN'T DO IT BY THURSDAY IF WE WERE PUSHED TO DO IT, WE HAD TO PUT OFF PAYING SOME BILLS.

YEAH.

IF WE GOT 'EM LATE.

YEAH, IF WE COULD DO IT BY THURSDAY THOUGH, WE COULD PUT IT AFTER TO EVERYBODY.

THAT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS THAT WE CUT OFF ON WEDNESDAY.

I WILL GET A REQUEST FROM THE CHILD SHELTER.

THEY NEED A CHECK LIKE THAT SO THEY CAN HAVE IT FOR THE WEEKEND AND I'VE GOTTA GET A CHECK PRINTED, SEND IT, GET JOHNNY TO COME OR SIGN IT SO SHE CAN PICK IT UP, GO CASH IT TO TAKE THE KIDS OUT FOR THE WEEKEND.

SO WE GOTTA COME UP WITH SOME OTHER EASIER PROCESSES.

ALL MATTER.

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BEFORE ON FRIDAY.

HAVE MUCH TO DO.

HE SET IN FOR JUDGE WILEY WHEN SHE, SHE WAS PUT HIS FOR Y DECISION.

I MEAN WE I DID TOO, BUT I JUST FIGURED OUT.

YEAH, THAT'S ONE YOU HAND WROTE IN THERE.

I SAW THAT REQUEST.

YOU HAVE IT ON THERE, YOU KNOW, SO WE GET IT.

AGENDA COULD BE POSTED.

YOU WE GET IT ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY.

YEAH.

FOR THE FOLLOWING MONDAY.

WE WORK THROUGH IT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING BE THE COURT, WHAT'S GOING BE THE, THE DEAL IF WE JUST HAVE IT EMAILED TO OUR OFFICE AND REVIEWED TO THE OFFICE AND SAY IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A PAGE THAT INSTEAD OF PRINTING THE WHOLE COTTON PICKING THING, YOU JUST PRINT ONE PAGE AND SAY, WELL I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THIS HERE.

IS THERE GONNA BE A, IF, IF IT'LL LET, IF YOUR PRINTER WILL BE SET WHERE YOU CAN PRINT THAT CERTAIN PAGE THAT YOU SELECT, WE SEND THAT AS A PDF.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PRINT THE WHOLE PACKET.

EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU'RE READ IT.

YEAH, .

WELL IF YOU HAVE AN IPAD, YOU CAN SPREAD IT OUT AND LOOK AT IT EASIER TOO.

IT MAKES A BIGGER PRINT.

WE HAD TO WHERE WE REIMBURSE THIS YEAR , WHERE ARE WE PAYING THE MARCHING SERVICE FOR THE INVESTIGATION? NO.

IS THAT THE OVERTIME OR UNITED STATES MARSHAL SERVICE? YEAH, THAT'S PAID OUT OF THE, THE SHERIFF'S ASSET FORFEITURE FUND.

HE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY LIKE HE WANTS TO.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S NOT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

CAN HE GET REIMBURSAL THERE? I DUNNO.

I THOUGHT SOMEBODY SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT SOME REIMBURSEMENT.

WELL, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS OVERTIME THAT OUR GUYS WORK FOR THE SERVICE AND THAT THEY WOULD REIMBURSE

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US.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK, BUT I, I MAY BE, YOU KNOW, COME ON UP.

SO WE PAGE YOU MIGHT WANT LOOK AT IT HERE.

I MARSHALLS.

NO, WE DID A SEX OFFENDER ROUNDUP, IF THAT'S IT.

AND UH, SO THEY PAY FOR OUR OVERTIME.

THEY REIMBURSED US.

I THOUGHT WE WOULD GONNA TO CHECK BACK.

HOW CAN WE WRITE THEM A CHECK? IS IT SHOWING WE RIGHT.

MAY BE FOR THE, UH, ASSET PORTION SEIZE CARS THAT WE GOT THROUGH THE MARSHALL, THE DA MARSH OFFICE.

THEY HOPE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

SO THEY GO THROUGH THE MARSHAL SERVICE.

SO WE WRITE A CHECK, SAY WE GOT A CORVETTE AND WE GIVE A, WE HAD TO PAY $1,500 FOR THAT.

2003 CORVETTE.

2006 HONDA CO 2005.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INVESTIGATION THOUGH.

WE'RE BUYING THOSE CARS FROM THE US MARSHAL SERVICE.

WE ACTUALLY SEIZED THEM.

THEY SEIZE SERVICE, THEY SEIZE THEM AND THEY PAY A CERTAIN MARSHALL SERVICE IS A PORTION OF MONEY.

CORRECT.

THAT THE WAY THAT WORKS, WE BOUGHT 'EM.

SO THEY'RE, WE HAVE ONE OFF BOUGHT FROM THE AND COACH.

YES, WE, WE DO A SEIZURE DA'S OFFICE.

THE D DOES A SEIZURE AND WE HAVE TO A DIFFERENCE.

LEMME SEE, I GUESS TAXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS FAR AS GETTING MONEY.

SO WE'RE TAKING, WE'RE GETTING A CORVETTE.

THEY TURN TO SELL THE CAR.

YEAH.

PROCEED.

WHY ARE WE BUYING IT? I CAN'T EXPLAIN SPECIFIC DETAILS IN CHARGE.

WHAT'S THAT? WHO CAN'T EXPLAIN THIS FOR ALL? WELL SHERIFF, HE PROBABLY EXPLAIN TO YOU ON HOW IT WORKS.

THE DA'S OFFICE, THE D'S OFFICE MIGHT, WELL MAYBE THEY MIGHT USE THEM A AS A DRUG BY OR SO YEAH, WE USE IT FOR WHATEVER REASON WE WANT TO, YEAH.

UNDERCOVER VEHICLE.

WHEN WE SEIZE THOSE, ACTUALLY THE D'S OFFICE, THE GROUP OUT OF, OF DALLAS WITH SEASON, WE HAVE A GUY THAT'S PART OF THE GROUP, BUT WE GET A CHANCE AT THE VEHICLE, BUT WE HAVE TO PAY.

OH CERTAIN.

WE DIDN'T SEIZE THESE VEHICLES.

NO.

DALLAS DID WE HAVE A GUY WHO'S IN THAT GROUP? HOW MUCH WAS THE CHECK? 4 66 66? YEAH.

WHAT THE FEES? FOUR.

OH, I CAN'T EXACTLY FEES, STUFF LIKE THAT.

STORAGE FOR THEIR IMPOUND, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THEY'RE COSTING 2,350.

2350.

WELL THIS ONE I DON'T YOU NEED WAS FOR $700 BUT I GUESS THEY USE IT FOR MAKING DRUG GOOD.

THANK YOU.

BE SERVICE FOR, FOR THE BIG COURT.

SOME KIND OF, OH YEAH, NO I DIDN'T DOLLARS.

WE GET A PERCENTAGE.

WE MIGHT NOT HAVE DONE IT.

THEY MAY HAVE SEASON OVER.

YES, YES,

[01:20:25]

YES.

WELDING ON THE PHONE ABOUT WELDING FOR 270 BUCKS AT WALMART.

SO I COME TO NOW YOU OFFER A FACT NOT SAYING THEY'D STAY, I'M NOT SAYING THEY'D STAY ON IT TOO LITTLE TOO LATE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

WE DON'T WANT A DIRT DOBER DOING THAT JOB EXCEPT VOLUNTEERS.

BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANY, ANY NOISE.

IT LOOKED MORE LIKE A BUFFALO ONE TOOK A DUMP ON LITTLE DIRT.

DO I TELL YOU WHAT HE DID A GOOD JOB BOYS.

SURE.

NOT WELDER.

WHO'D YOU HAVE? DO TRADE WOMAN .

OH YEAH.

WE CHANGED TRUCKS WITH OUR WATER TANK AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS READY TO GO GUYS.

SO GOT THE SPRAYERS ON THE FRONT ALL THE WAY AROUND THE SIDE, THE BACK, THE WHOLE THING.

JUDGE, WE USE TO PUT OUT FIRES IF NOTHING ELSE.

SPRAY.

DON'T SAY THAT TOO LOUD.

THEY'LL BE CALLING ON YOU.

WELL, PRETTY GOOD LOOKING BRIDGE.

SOME GOTTA DO IT.

YES SIR.

NO, IT'S THERE.

THE DA'S MONEY HELP COUNTY.

WE GOTTA, UH, I SAW HIM PUSH BACK, SIR.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

YES, THOSE WERE DONE MANUALLY, SO, AND I DON'T SIGN ON THOSE SO I DON'T GET TO SEE AUCTION.

GIVE EXTRA MONEY.

THAT'S NICE.

MM-HMM.

WON'T BE GETTING MORE.

NO GUYS WOULD ENJOY THAT.

WE NEED A PRECINCT ASSET.

FOUR 50.

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA CONFISCATE? THAT'S WHAT I, I WANT IT'D BE WORTH YOU TONIGHT.

, I DUNNO.

DONE FOR 24.

NO, THAT WAS, WHO WAS THE DA IN 4 23? 4 23.

WELL, LET'S SEE.

YEAH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN PROPERLY BRANDY, WASN'T IT? YEAH.

WELL SHE'S NO LONGER WITH US.

RIGHT.

PRETTY GOOD THING RIGHT THERE.

NO, SHE'S NOT.

LOOK LIKE THEY GAVE ALL HER PEOPLE A BONUS WHO IS TEMPORARY VA I GUESS MAYBE SHE GAVE EVERYBODY A RAISE.

BOUGHT IT.

I BOUGHT A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

THAT'S WHY I SAID WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF ROAD AND BRIDGE FORFEITURE FUND.

YEAH.

COUNTY OWNERS.

WELL, LET'S SEE.

WE, UH, NO, IT, UH, EARLY.

WAS SWORN IN ON MONDAY THE 22ND EARLY.

DID THIS WELL IT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I HAD IT DOWN.

OH, THIS IS A CHECK DATE.

BUT WHEN WERE THEY APPROVED? DOES IT HAVE THE THE CHECKS ARE WRITTEN FOR 23.

AND SO WHEN DID THE REQUEST SO THAT RANDY DID THAT? I DON'T KNOW JOHNNY COUNTRY RECEIVED THOSE.

OKAY.

BUT EARLY.

IT WAS SWORN IN ON THE 22ND THAT MONDAY.

BUT I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE TIME FOR THOSE TO GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

BUT IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN TRY TO FIND OUT.

WELL, I THOUGHT WE'D ALL AGREED DURING THE BUDGET MEETINGS LAST YEAR NOT TO HAVE ANY RAISES UNLESS IT WAS DISCUSSED AND CUED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WELL, UH, THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH THOSE ASSET FORESTER FUNDS, I SAY THE PROBLEM, THE LAW IS ISN'T ALLOWED TO SPEND IT ANYWAY.

YEAH.

SPEND IT.

AM I RIGHT? AS LONG AS IT'S RELATED.

THAT'S TRUE.

I THINK HE STILL HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COURT.

BUT WE NEED TO CHECK THAT.

OKAY, WELL I'LL, I'LL CHECK AND, UH,

[01:25:01]

SO IF WE DON'T SIGN THIS, THEY WON'T GET MY MONEY.

CHECK'S ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN AND GONE AND GONE.

SO IS THAT LEGAL? IF THEY CAN, IF THEY CAN SPEND WHAT, WHY WE SIGNING IT? I HADN'T EVEN SEEN IT.

WHAT WAS THE DATE OF APRIL 23RD? 23RD.

THAT'S, THAT'S THOSE PUSH, THAT'S THOSE PUSHBACKS THAT THE JUDGES ARE DOING WHEN THEY'RE RESCHEDULING THOSE CASES.

THAT'S WHAT ALL, THAT'S WHERE ALL THAT MONEY COMING FROM.

BUT YOU, WE SIGN IT OR NOT.

RIGHT? IT WON'T MATTER.

THEY'VE ALREADY CASHED THE CHECKS.

THIS IS MAY 13TH.

THEY'RE NOT HOLDING THOSE CHECKS.

THOSE WERE DONE MANUALLY.

THEY GOT EM RIGHT THERE.

YOU CHECK SEE IF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, HAVE TO APPROVE.

SURE THEY HAVE.

BECAUSE I, I'LL CHECK AND SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

OKAY.

AND I'LL CHECK, SEE WRITE LIST.

I'LL CHECK START SPARE THAT.

YEAH.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO THE DOOR AT THE ARMORY RRP DOOR AND SERVICES CAN PULL IT.

IT SAYS JP REPAIRS, UH, CAN REMEMBER.

IS THAT ON THAT'S ON THE ARMORY LINE.

YEAH.

WHAT'S THE VENDOR NUMBER? LEMME SEE NUMBER RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S THE VENDOR NUMBER.

WHO? 40 19 RPM DOOR AND SERVICES.

40 19 RRP M DOOR.

YOU SAID 19, RIGHT? YES.

NO, THIS WAS DONE.

OH, JP HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROSECUTOR.

PROSECUTOR, JP, WHICH WAS UH, WHICH IS PRO DOES JP THEY HIRED THESE GUYS TO ADVISE THEM ALL WAY THROUGH THE PROSECUTION, MAKE SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE, MAKE ANY MISTAKES.

COULD GET THE EVIDENCE, COULD GET THROWN OUT COURT.

YEAH.

AND I'VE GOT BEFORE THEY DID EVERY LITTLE THING.

THESE GUYS SAID THESE GUYS WERE SPECIALISTS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA PROSECUTE THE CASE, I THINK.

YEAH, BUT I, BUT I UM, FACT THAT'S WHAT I'VE FOR HERE, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS A DIVISION CRIMINAL JUSTICE THAT IS GONNA REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THOSE EXPENSES.

YEAH.

AND SO, BUT THERE'S A PROCESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET THEM TO DO THAT.

IT'S LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING THEM.

THAT HOLDS UP ENGINE DEFENSE FOR HER THERE.

THEY HAVE A FUND DOWN THERE FOR PAYING REIMBURSING COUNTIES FOR THE INDIGENT DEFENSE.

UH, NOW WE'VE GOT IT ON ON HIM BECAUSE OF THE, THAT REGIONAL PUBLIC.

HOW CAN THEY BE DECLARED INGEN? WELL THAT'S, THAT'S THE WORK IN PROGRESS, EVERYBODY.

YEAH.

I'M, I THOUGHT WAS GONNA MAKE SURE, NO MISTAKE PROSECUTOR HIRE SOMEBODY NOT CAPABLE OF DOING EITHER ONE.

WELL, THE PROBLEM YOU GET INTO IS, WHAT I UNDERSTAND, I'M GONNA ARGUE IS THERE'S SO MUCH AT STAKE WE CAN'T AFFORD FOR ANY MISTAKES.

WE BE RE HAVING TO RY TO SECOND.

I CAN SEE AND I'M,

[01:31:32]

I GET AN EXTRA 90 DAYS WAIT UNTIL MERELY THE END MONTHLY, MONTHLY ANIMAL REPORT THAT THEY REPORT THEIR CONTRACTORS GIVE US.

USUALLY JUST EMAIL THAT TO US.

I THOUGHT I SAVED, LIKE WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN A WHILE.

HAVEN'T NO, WE'VE HAD A LOT GOING ON.

YEAH.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

SEE MOST OF THE GUYS, OH YEAH, YEAH.

HE ALWAYS PAID IN CASH IS WHAT TO TELL ME.

DID YOU, DID YOU DO TWO OF LAURA? DID I SEE ONE? DID YOU GO TO TWO CONFERENCES RECENTLY? AND COLLECTIONS.

HUH? UV AND COLLECTIONS BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT I SAW ONE.

ONE, THE OTHER ONE WHERE SOMEWHERE.

SO COST OF MANUAL ASSESSMENT ON MR. WILLIAMS. MM-HMM .

HE'S GONNA RIDE THAT HORSE RIGHT IN THE GROUND.

MM-HMM .

I, HE WAS A BAD GUY.

HE GUESS WAS HOW MUCH DID YOU WIND UP SELLING? 700.

SEVEN 60 SOMETHING DOLLARS WORTH.

14.

SO 14.

MOST OF THAT.

WHAT WE HAVE IS WIRING SHEET ON IT.

FRONT BOAT, BOAT.

I DON'T LIKE MARYLAND.

PROBABLY.

YEAH, WE COULD HAVE GOT ONE.

JACK,

[01:35:02]

PLEASE RUN FOR MAYOR KEMP.

YEAH, SHE WANTED TOO A LOT.

THIS OF COURSE WE HADN'T MET IN THREE WEEKS.

I GUESS I A LOT BILLS.

YEAH.

WELL CHECK MAKES TO THE DA WAS RESTITUTION AS THAT WOULD PROBABLY, SOMEBODY PAYS A FINE AND SHE'S GOTTA GIVE PART OF THAT FINE TO THE DISTRICT BPS OR WHATEVER ARE YOU SAYING, IS IT ONE LEASE SUBMITTED TO THE DA'S OFFICE? UH, SO FEES, RESTITUTION REIMBURSEMENT.

SHE'S PAYING DPS.

MM-HMM .

AND THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE SOMEBODY PAY YOU FINE AND DPS EAT THAT PART OF IT.

YEAH.

THERE'S A FEE, FEE WORTH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

LOOKING AT THE ALL 3, 3 20, IT'S 5,000 RIGHT THERE.

IS THAT UNDER, IS THAT UNDER THIS? YEAH, THAT'S UNDER THE SHERIFF.

THE WE PAY INFORMANTS.

YEAH.

NO, THEY HAVE A PETTY CASH, BUT THEY KEEP THAT MONEY INTO PAY INFORMANTS.

OKAY.

THEY GET 5,000 FOR OH, SO IT'S HAND, IT'S HANDY FOR 'EM TO DIP INTO IT IF THEY NEED IT RIGHT THEN.

BUT AFTER THAT DIDN'T GO ALL ONE YOU ASK? NO.

OH, OKAY.

NO SIR.

AND THEY KEEP TRACK OF THE INTERNALLY LIKE SAID, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT KNOW.

YEAH.

BUT, BUT IT IS, IT IS ACCOUNTED FOR.

IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR.

I AUDITED BACK FRIDAY MORNING.

I'LL BE AUDITING YOU GUILTY? YES SIR.

IT'S TAKEN CARE OF.

THEY KEEP GOOD RECORDS.

DID THEY TELL YOU WHO THEY GIVE IT TO? I CAN'T DISCLOSE THAT.

THIS GUY, I DON'T WANNA KNOW.

I'M JUST, I DON'T WANNA KNOW ANY OF THOSE GUYS NAMES.

BUT YOU SEE WHO ACTUALLY GOES TO SOMETIMES YOU SEE MY NAME ON THERE.

NO COMMENT.

NO COMMENT.

.

THAT'S HOW I LEARNED HOW TO SPELL MR. SHANE'S NAME BEFORE YOU ELECTED.

ALRIGHT.

TOO MUCH INFORMATION PUT HERE ON THE TABLE.

YOU CAN ANSWER THIS ONE.

PROBABLY.

UH, WHY CAN'T ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES

[01:40:01]

BE AN INTERPRETER AT THE JAIL? I THINK SO.

YEAH.

THE COURT FOLKS BE CERTIFIED.

WE USE OUR EMPLOYEES ALL THE TIME FOR THINGS BACK IN THE BACK PROCESS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

ATE FOR COURT PURPOSES.

DON'T WANT ANYBODY CERTIFIED NOW.

SEE I CAN'T BE PAID INTERPRETER UNTIL I GET CERTIFIED.

SEE, YOU ALREADY CERTIFIED TO, THAT'S .

YEAH, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE PAPERS FROM THE STATE THAT SAYS I'M CERTIFI.

I'M NOT INTERPRETER.

JUST LOOK ON BACK.

MAKE SURE WE HAD NO, OKAY.

THE INSURANCE.

WHAT ABOUT PAY? YEAH.

OKAY, SO DEDUCTIBLE MAY GO UP.

YEAH.

AND WE HAVE TO PAY.

SOMEBODY GOT HURT UP THERE.

THEY PAID INSURANCE.

THAT'S MM-HMM .

WHO'S THE CHAIR WRITTEN TO? WHO'S THE CHECK WRITTEN TO 1 0 3 3 5? DALLAS LAWYER AIN'T PROPOSITION

[01:45:15]

YOU GET THAT OFF YOUR WRIST ASSESSMENT OR EVERYBODY ELSE ON, THEY DON'T DO THAT.

RIGHT? YEAH.

MM-HMM .

HEY THANKS.

HE GOT IT ALL.

I DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK FOR FOUR MONTHS, SO WE'LL SEE.

HOW MUCH DID IT TAKE OFF? OH, JUST THE LITTLE JUMP.

IT WASN'T NEAR BAD AS HE MADE IT OUT TO BE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S GOOD.

IF IT DIDN'T HAVE TO GO VERY DEEP.

YEAH.

YEAH.

MY WIFE'S GOT REMOVED HER LEG.

IT'S EVERYTHING.

I GOTTA CARRY HER TO THE DOCTOR PRETTY QUICK.

YEAH, THOSE, THOSE THINGS GO BACK TO LIKE WHEN YOU WERE YEAH.

YOU DAMAGE DONE.

YEAH.

I DON'T DOUBT, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT I HAVE, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

THE ONLY THING WE LAURIE, LAURIE FLOYD OR THE UH, JUDGE COULD PROBABLY CALL AND FIND OUT ABOUT IT.

DO YOU KNOW THAT WORD RODNEY? WHAT SITUATION ON THAT? I JUST KNOW THE RISK MANAGEMENT POOL.

WE HAD TO PAY A $5,000 CLAIM DEDUCTIBLE ON THE CLAIMANT AND IT HAD TO DO WITH AN INMATE FILED A LAWSUIT.

I THINK THAT'S JUST THE DEDUCTIBLE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOWER IT THEN YOU WIND UP HAVING TO PAY HIGHER THE CLAIM OR YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR RIGHT.

I JUST WONDERED WHAT THE CLAIM WAS.

YEAH, WHAT, WHAT THE BASIS OF THE CLAIM WAS.

UH, I DON'T KNOW.

WE GOT FOUR, FIVE OUT.

THERE'S BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS.

I, WHO, WHO THAT ONE ON UH, CHRISTOPHER KOA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

HE'S THE GUY THAT FILED A CLAIM AND HE, HE FILED IT HIMSELF FROM THE JAIL.

HE IS HIS OWN ATTORNEY.

AND SO HE FILED A CLAIM SAYING HE WAS HURT IN AN ALTERCATION OUT HERE AND, UH, THAT HE, UH, ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, SUED THE FEDERAL COURT.

AND SO THEN OF COURSE IT WAS DENIED AND, AND SO THEY OFFERED HIM A SETTLEMENT OF $500 TO SETTLE AND HE REFUSED.

AND SO THEN IT WAS GOING TO GO TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE APPEALS COURT AND THEN HE DECIDED NOT TO APPEAL AND HE AGREED TO SETTLE FOR $250.

AND SO NOW IT'S JUST ALL GONE AWAY.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT HAD TO BE DEFENDED TO GET TO GET THAT FOR 250.

WELL WE DIDN'T EVEN PAY HIM FOR TWO 50 BECAUSE THE COURT RULED AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS SUMMARY JUDGMENT.

BUT IF DON'T REMEMBER CORRECTLY, MR. MR. PLACE APPROPRIATE YOUR NAME, WOULD YOU TURN IN DOWN THERE? SIGN ON.

1388.

IT'S CALLED COUNTY FOR FORM.

THAT'S US.

THERE'S NO BETTER WAY TO OUTSIDE.

WELL WE HAVE THE, THE INSURANCE POLICY I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I THINK TAX THOUSAND OR SO.

THE ATTORNEY.

YEAH, THEY, THIS IS THE MANUAL CHECK REGISTER.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

CHECKS WERE CUT.

SO 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 3.

AND SHE TOOK A 25 SO IF SHE DID IT SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

YEAH.

KAREN'S KEEPING UP WITH ALL THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR CALLS SO WE CAN TURN THOSE IN SIR.

AND I THINK THEY WILL ALLOW US TO TURN THOSE IN AS WE GO, MAYBE MONTHLY OR SOMETHING SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GET 'EM ALL UP BECAUSE CONCEIVABLY THAT'S, YEAH, NOBODY HAD TOLD ME YET.

WELL I JUST KIND OF FOUND THAT OUT THIS MORNING SO I'M, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M TRYING TO WORK ON TODAY.

OKAY.

[01:50:16]

CHAIRS AREN'T VERY GOOD CHOICE.

WELL GENERALLY, I GUESS THAT'S THE CHAIRS AT THE LARGER SIT IN, SO I GUESS THEY WANT NEW CHAIRS.

THEY COULD ALL BIN, SOME NEW CHAIRS TAKE, TAKE UP A LAWYER, COLLECT CHAIRS AROUND THE COURTROOM TABLE.

THAT'S RECOMMEND.

WE GOT TWO OPTIONS ON TIME.

WE GOTTA STAY ON THE LAWSUIT.

I CAN TAKE THAT CHAIR ABOUT 15 MINUTES AND I CAN FIX IT.

MATTER NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP.

TAKES LONG SCREWS ABOUT THAT LONG TO PUT IN IT AND THEN ALL THE KIDS GOT THAT TIGHTENED.

IT WASN'T BE, WOULDN'T LOOK WITH IT BUT IT'D BE SOLID.

I DID FIND OUT YOU COULD DRILL PALLET HOLES IN THERE.

IT GET THEM SCREWS IN THERE A LITTLE EASIER.

MM-HMM MADE OUTTA FRESH WOOD.

NOW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT PRESS BOTTOM MAYBE AND I DON'T PRESS WOOD.

YOU CAN TAKE AND GET IT WET AND IT WON'T DO ANYTHING.

MM-HMM YOU HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY JUST BURN IT TO GET RID OF IT.

YEAH.

WHEREAS PLYWOOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'LL GO APART REAL FAST ON JUST GET IT WET.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GET RID OF IT.

YEAH.

THAT OLD PRESSION THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT HARD.

Y'ALL LOOK THROUGH THAT.

THEY LOOK THROUGH THAT.

MM-HMM SEE Y'ALL GOING PUT PRESSURE ON ME.

Y'ALL BE SITTING HERE, YOU KNOW WE BE ALRIGHT.

NO PRESSURE.

YEAH I DO.

YOU'LL ALL BE LOOKING.

THAT'S FOR FOUR OF THEM.

50 TO YOU HADN'T BAILED ANY HAY YET.

I BAILED 12 AROUND MY HOUSE HERE STEVE.

I'M GONNA LET MY R GRASS GO SEED SO I DON'T HAVE TO BUY ANY SEEDS THIS FALL.

IT DON'T START TURNING PRETTY SOON SHOULDN'T IT? UH, MINE'S WAYS OFF SEED AND THEN I'LL ROLL UP THE STEMS THAT'S LEFT COWS MAN.

THEY, THEY'RE EASY MAN SECTION.

RIGHT.

THEY CAN MAKE IT ON THEM STICKS AND STEMS. DID YOU KEEP YOUR OWN MILK COUNTER TOO? NO.

HUH? NOPE.

YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING.

NOPE.

I'M NOT KIDDING.

WHEN I TOOK THE MONEY OUT OF 'EM, I GOT RID OF EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I STILL GOT THAT LITTLE OLD BOXY, LIKE THE HOMEMADE BUTTER WITH OH YEAH.

YEAH.

DO.

IT IS EASY TO GO TO THE STORE AND BUY THAT BUTTER THAN IT IS SIT THERE AND TURN AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T EAT ANY BUTTER.

I WONDER I GOT, I DON'T EAT CHIPS OR HOT SAUCE OR BUTTER THAT WAY I, I CAN EAT THE CAN EAT CANDY WHEN I GO OUTSIDE.

YOU EAT TOOTIE ROLL? OH YEAH, I ROLL.

I COOK THE FRESH BRISKET.

THAT LITTLE HE K ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO AND WE TALKED ABOUT, I COOKED THAT FOR YESTERDAY FOR LUNCH AND HE JUST FELL APART.

95 HOURS OF COOKING READY TO GO.

HARDLY SMELL LEFT NOTHING BETTER THAN, DOESN'T EVEN SMELL LIKE THE KITCHEN.

THINK IT HAS A BRAND NEW GIMME PEN.

I DO CARRY MY POCKET.

NOT LIKE JAMES BOND.

[01:55:17]

WE'RE PAYING DR. DAVIS BE WE PAYING EXTRA CLAIMS. YES.

YES.

WHAT, WHAT REASON ON PAYROLL? NINE TWO.

IT'S BIG, BIG, BIG ROOM.

BIGGER ANY I GUESS DAYS THAT SOUNDED COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS.

THEY DIDN'T MEMORIZE IT LIKE YOU TWO DID.

BIG NUMBERS.

WE PROBABLY ASKED DIFFERENT QUESTION.

WE JUST, NOT REALLY, BUT I GUESS SINCE THEY'VE ALREADY CASHED THE CHECKS, WHAT CHOICE DO WE HAVE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN IT.

DO DON GO AHEAD.

DON'T SIGN.

WE'LL SEE IF YOU GO TO JAIL IN THAT WINDOW NEXT TIME, IF YOU'RE STILL HERE WITH , WAIT A MINUTE.

THAT FOR DRUG COURT.

UM, 33 BUT HE IS ON THE COUNTY PAYROLL AND HE IS GETTING A DOUBLE DIP.

THAT'S AFTER HOURS.

HE WORKS AT THE GYM AND HE DOES THAT HOURS I THINK.

YEAH, IT'S AFTER HOURS.

HE'S NOT A DOCTOR DOESN'T GET PAID COMP TIME.

HUH? HE GETS OVERTIME.

DOCTOR GETS OVERTIME AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO GET COMP TIME.

I DUNNO HOW THAT WORKS.

WELL WE HAVE TO GET CALLED OUT OVER AFTER HOURS, GET A TREE OFF THE, THAT'S WHY JOY OF THE JOB GET A BONUS FOR BONUS.

NOT SURE WHEN YOU GET PAID ABOUT MY THIRD TRIP OUT AT NIGHT, THAT'S WHEN I BOUGHT MY OWN SAW.

I KEEP IT RIGHT THERE AT THE HOUSE.

DO.

YEAH.

SO YOU CAN I KEEP IT RIGHT THERE AT THE HOUSE, KEEP GAS AND OIL AND EVERYTHING SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE SHOP AND THEN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WELL MY CHAIN SOME MY TREE SALT AND BACK IN MY PICKUP RIGHT NOW.

WELL YOU BETTER HAVE A CHAIN TO SOMEBODY LIFT IT FROM YOU.

I GOT THAT COVER ON THE BACK.

OH YOU DO? YEAH.

NOW I'VE GOT, MINE WAS READING THE SHOVEL OR TWO.

I KEEP MINE UP THERE IN THE FRONT WITH MY SECURITY OFFICER WENT OUT TO CARRY .

THAT'S A BAD SECURITY OFFICER TOO.

YEAH.

CAME OUTTA THE COURTHOUSE DAY.

HE SITTING IN THE BACK SEAT GUY, HIS HANDS UP ON THE HEAD.

HE WAS LOOKING OVER IN THERE LIKE THAT.

WE GOT A DOG SAYING BORN.

HE STARTED RAISING CAME.

[02:00:36]

SO IS MR. FERNANDEZ STILL WITH US? SHE LEFT.

SO SHE GIVE EVERYBODY BONUS AND THEN QUIT.

WELL WE'RE GONNA CHECK IT OUT.

SEE HOW, FIND OUT WHO AUTHORIZED THAT OR WHEN IT WAS SHE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT I DIDN'T EITHER.

FLEXIBILITY NEITHER HERE IN THE CAMERA AND IT WASN'T ME.

WE'RE PRETTY SURE OF THAT.

AREN'T YOU CAN BE CERTAIN WE, IF WE DIDN'T, WELL I GUESS IF THREE PEOPLE SIGNED WOULD STILL BE APPROVED BY THE COURT WOULD'VE BUT IF NONE WAS SIGNED, THEN WHAT? I, I HAVE TO, WHAT I HAVE TO, PEOPLE HAVE TO COMMISSION COURT I THAT, THAT'S A GUARANTEE.

THAT'D BE ONE THING.

SO IF WE WANT, WE WANT TO DRAW SOME ATTENDANCE, ALL WE GOTTA DO IS JUST NOT THAT SIGN, NOT SIGN THAT BIG THICK ONE.

PROBABLY GOT YOUR CHECK IN IT TOP.

YOU KNOW, MY LUCK, MY WIFE WOULD BE THE ONE SITTING UP HERE IN THE BEANS WHERE NOT I WANT, I GUESS THE SALARIES APPROVED IT FOR SOMETHING.

HAVE TO ASK.

YEAH, BUT WE DON'T CATCH A BUMP UNTIL A MONTH LATER.

SOMEBODY, THERE'S NOTHING WHERE YOU SAYS NO.

SOMEBODY SAYS GIVE ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES BONUS.

WE DON'T SEE IT UNTIL 30 DAYS LATER.

LOOKS LIKE AT LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HAPPENED UNTIL JUST, JUST RECENTLY.

HERE'S WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT BENEFITS.

A COMMISSIONER'S COURT DETERMINES EMPLOYEE PAID BENEFITS AND EMPLOY POLICIES FOR EACH COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

ANY PROMOTIONS, PAY INCREASES OR HEALTHCARE BENEFITS OR EACH YEAR IN ORDER TO DETERMINE IF ANY CHANGES MUST BE MADE TO MEET THE BUDGET REQUIREMENTS.

SO CHANGE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS NOT THERE MAN.

YEAH.

SO WHAT GOING TO DO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME I GET QUESTIONED DO WE HAVE TO DO THIS? DO WE HAVE THROUGH WITHOUT REAL MESS? WOULDN'T.

[02:05:03]

YES SIR.

THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT SHANE.

SECOND.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOTION.

MOTION.

ALL SET.

AYE GENTLEMEN, WE'LL SEE 30 I EXPECT WE'LL FOR LUNCH YOU THINK WE GET IT ALL DONE? SOME SALAD WOULD BE NICE.

SOME FRESH TOMATOES SALAD.

I GOT THE LATEST RIGHT OUT THE DOOR, BUT DON'T FORGET THE BANANA PUDDING.

YEAH, I TRY TO BRING THAT ART SALAD.

FINISHED DIP AND ART SALAD.