* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] THE, UH, JUNE THE 10TH, UH, MEETING OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, THE SHERIFF HAS FORM THERE THAT YOU, UH, CAN FILL OUT AND GET TO THOSE, AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, THAT AS ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA. UH, I'VE ASKED COMMISSIONER SHANE TO GIVE OUR, UH, INVOCATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF OUR MOST QUESTIONS. HEAVEN. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS. WE THANK YOU FOR THE REIGN THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED ON US IN THE RECENT DAYS. WE ALSO ASK YOU TO BE WITH US TODAY AS WE DO OUR COUNTY'S BUSINESS. PUT YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THIS COURT AS WE SEE FIT, TO DO OUR DUTIES. ALSO, UH, BLESS OUR SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY IN THESE THINGS. WE ASK YOUR SON'S NAME, AMEN. AMEN. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I HAVE PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE TO LEAVE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALRIGHT, I HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND, UH, MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD BE OUR OFFICIAL TIMEKEEPER FOR THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. AND FIRST ONE IS, UH, TIM, BUT, UH, FROM THE, UH, CITY OF FARM MORNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. WELCOME TO THANK YOU JUDGE COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE A HANDOUT. YES, I CAN JUST START RIGHT THERE. I APPRECIATE GETTING TO BRIEFLY SPEAK WITH YOU THIS MORNING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S COMING UP IN THE FUTURE. AND TO HELP KEEP ME IN THREE MINUTES, I WROTE, WROTE A LETTER. SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU AN UPCOMING PROPOSAL FOR A FUNDING MECHANISM, WHICH WILL DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE FUTURE OF MORNING TEXAS AND ADD A SHINING STAR TO KALIN COUNTY. AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF CORN HAS BEEN WORKING ON DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WHAT TOOK MANY YEARS TO DETERIORATE WILL TAKE MANY YEARS TO RESTORE, BUT WE NOW HAVE THE PLANS, THE PEOPLE, AND THE TOOLS TO BRING THE LONG TIME VISION TO FRUITION. THE CORN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BEGAN AGGRESSIVE MEASURES IN 2010 BY PURCHASING THREE KEY BOAR FRONTAGE PROPERTIES, AND SUBSEQUENTLY, A DESTINATION RETAIL BUSINESS WAS RECRUITED JUST 10 MONTHS LATER, CRUMBS WON BEST DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OF THE YEAR FROM THE TEXAS DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. ADDITIONALLY, THE FBDC CREATED THE ARTS COUNCIL, WHICH NOW OPERATES A GALLERY AND AN ART CENTER IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN 20. THIS ACTIVITY HAS CREATED MOVEMENT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WITH THE OPENING OF FOUR MORE BUSINESSES IN A THREE BLOCK AREA WITHIN THE PAST SIX MONTHS. TO BUILD UPON AND SUSTAIN THESE SUCCESSES, WE WILL NEED LONG TERM COMMITMENT, SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THE RESTORATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, ADDITIONAL PUBLIC FACILITIES, AS WELL AS FEEDER ROAD IMPROVEMENT AND WAYFINDING IMPLEMENTATION. IT IS OUR DESIRE TO FORM A LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH COFFMAN COUNTY TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS THROUGH THE CREATION OF A TURS, A 40 YEAR CHARGE, TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE FOR ING DOWNTOWN AND OLD TOWN AREA. AS WE MOVE FORWARD TOWARD APPROVING THE CONTRACT TO IMPLEMENT AND CREATE A TURS SET FOR CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 18TH, 2013, WE WILL BE ASKING KAUFMAN COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE. THE CITY IS LOOKING TO DO 75%, AND WE'LL BE ASKING 50% FROM KAMAN COUNTY, BUT ARE FLEXIBLE TO ADD COUNTY SPECIFIC PROJECTS WITH AN ADDITIONAL COMMITMENT OF 75%. TODAY, I'VE INCLUDED FOR YOU THE 10 FEASIBILITY STUDY COMPILED BY FINLEY AND ASSOCIATES, A PRELIMINARY LIST OF PROJECTS, A TIMELINE, AND AN ECONOMIC IMPACT SNAPSHOT OF THE POTENTIAL REVENUE, WHICH COULD RESULT FROM JUST ONE OF OUR PROPOSED SITE DEVELOPMENTS IN DOWNTOWN. SO OUR REQUEST TODAY IS JUST THAT IT BE THE PLEASURE OF THE COURT TO CONSIDER THIS PROJECT AS WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN THE FUTURE WITH DOCUMENTS AND MOVE TOWARDS FINALIZING A PROJECT LIST. AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF DOWNTOWN CORN THIS MORNING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE CANNOT COMMENT SINCE [00:05:01] THIS WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS APPRECIATED THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS TO US, AND WE'LL LOOK OVER AND, UH, AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CORN AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS FROM MARK KY SAT KY UH, FROM THE DALLAS, UH, TRASH HUB. AND, UH, WELCOME YOU GUYS TO THE MEETING THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING. AGAIN, OUR MARK ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, AND WE, SINCE THIS WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU, BUT WE CERTAINLY ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE PROPOSE. DID, UH, UM, THIS GET DISTRIBUTED TO YOU FOLKS? VICKY ASKED THIS FOR IT LAST WEEK, JUST SO THERE'S A LITTLE PICTURE THAT DESCRIBED. I DON'T THINK I HAVE. ALRIGHT. AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, ALLOWING US TO SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES. UM, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS A PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE'S OFFICE. UH, JUDGE WOOD HAS HEARD, UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, WHAT WE'VE DEVELOPED IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS, UM, SELF CON, SELF-CONTAINED CONTROLLED ACCESS, UM, DUMPSTERS, IF YOU WILL. AND IT'S A, A PAY AS YOU THROW KIND OF A CONCEPT WHERE THESE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE, UM, IN, AS THE PICTURE SHOWS IN THE, ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS, SOMETHING WHERE YOU COME UP, SWIPE A CARD, A DRIVER'S LICENSE BUSINESS, UH, CREDIT CARD, SOMETHING OF THAT SORT, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE, UM, DUMPSTER AREA, AND THEN YOU CAN PLACE TRASH IN THERE OR WHATEVER KINDS OF MATERIAL, RECYCLING, WHATEVER WE'RE COLLECTING. AND THEN YOU INDICATE THAT YOU'VE COMPLETED IT AND IT PRINTS OUT A, A RECEIPT FOR WHATEVER AMOUNT YOU'VE DISTRIBUTED, YOU'VE, UH, LEFT BEHIND. SO TODAY, IF I, IF I CAN INTERJECT, UM, THIS WOULD BE, UM, AT YOUR EXISTING CONVENIENCE SITES, IT WOULD MAKE THE SITES MORE CONVENIENT, MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE CITIZENS, AND PROVIDE THEM WITH MORE OPERATING HOURS. UM, AUTOMATED MEANS FOR TRASH DISPOSAL IN THE PRECINCTS IN EACH OF THE PRECINCTS WHERE THE CITIZENS DON'T HAVE CURBSIDE TRASH COLLECTION TODAY. SO IT'S AN AUTOMATED CONTROLLED ACCESS SYSTEM DESIGNED TO MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR USERS. WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS UP TILL NOW THROUGH, UH, MARILYN MAY, WHO, UH, INTRODUCED US TO THE SITUATION AND THE NEED FOR MORE, UM, ACCESS TO TRASH DISPOSAL FACILITIES. UM, WE'VE TOURED A NUMBER OF THE FACILITIES AND I KNOW THAT THE NEW 4 29 SITE IS ALREADY PREPARED AND ESSENTIALLY READY TO GO EXCEPT WITH THE ADDITION OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE ENVISIONING. SO OUR REQUEST TO THE COURT IS THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY, THE PERMISSION TO CONVENE CONVERSATIONS AND WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS, UM, FOR PRECINCT THREE. AND THEN IDEALLY, ONCE THIS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AS, UH, SOMETHING OFFERED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AGAIN, WE CANNOT TAKE ANY ACTION ON IT, BUT I WOULD, UH, PROPOSE THAT YOU WORK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SINCE, UH, I THINK MOST THE DISCUSSIONS PRECINCT THREE, AND THEN PERHAPS WE HAVE THIS AGENDA WORKSHOP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO FOLKS THAT I HAVE THAT WERE SIGNED UP ON THE COMMENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA. I WOULD, UH, NOW MOVE INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND I TELL YOU, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL THOSE TAX. I'D BE HAPPY TO IF YOU ACCOMPLISH, UH, ANYTHING. YOU DO HAVE THE, UH, NUMBER OF TAX SALES, AND I BELIEVE THESE WERE FROM THE RECENT AUCTION THAT TOOK PLACE OVER PRECINCT THREE, I THINK IS CORRECT. YEAH. AS TANYA I KNOW HERE, I BELIEVE AS WELL. AND, UH, THEN WE MINUTES FROM, UH, THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES OF MAY THE 28TH, AND THEN YOU HAVE DEPUTATIONS OF BRANDON PRICE, MATT, UH, SLA, UH, ROBERT MC, KELLY ROAD, CHAD HIGGINS, AND BLAKE, UH, I'M SURE BUTCHER NAME, COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? UH, A THROUGH, UH, JAY ON THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ON ITEM JAY OR THOSE NEW HIRES, OR THEY ARE NEW, THEY'RE NEW HIRES, NEW PEOPLE COMING IN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I A MOTION TO APPROVE THE [00:10:01] AGENDA. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM IS DESIREE POOL TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL FORM ONE, TWO, AND THREE FOR APPLICATION AND OUR ELIGIBILITY PROCESS FOR IN HEALTHCARE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH DESIRE BEING HERE THIS MORNING AND PUTTING ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR US. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER, JUDGE, GOOD MORNING. UH, I'VE ALREADY GOT WITH JOHN LONG, JOHN'S APPROVED THESE FORMS THAT HE FEELS LIKE I SHOULD PUT, UH, THESE AS PART OF MY ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS I'M HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH MY CLIENTS. UM, IT'S A SIX MONTH PROGRAM, BUT WE'VE ASKED THE CLIENTS TO, UM, CALL ME BY THE 20TH OF EACH MONTH TO GET THEIR NEXT MONTH VOUCHER. AND I'M, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT. SO I'VE DECIDED THAT THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT IS I PUT IT INTO A CONTRACT AND THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND GET THEIR VOUCHER THAT WAY THEY HAVE IT AND THEY DON'T GET TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE HAS TO CALL ME AND WE HAVE TO STOP WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE THEIR VOUCHER, TO GET THEM INTO THE OFFICE THAT DAY. SO WE JUST KIND OF MAKE IT A PART OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND GET THIS, UM, VOUCHER EACH MONTH ON THE 20TH. AND IF WE HAVE A HOLIDAY THAT DAY, THEY JUST COME TO FOLLOW THE DAY. UH, THE NEXT FORM IT IS JUST GIVEN ME ACCESS TO GET MORE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON MY, UH, POTENTIAL CLIENTS, WHICH MEANS THAT IF THEY HAVE POSSIBLE PROPERTY IN ANOTHER STATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT. UM, IT MAY BE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR HOME IN ANOTHER STATE AND I'M NOT ABLE TO LOOK INTO THAT. THAT'S JUST GIVEN ME, UM, AUTHORIZATION TO DO THAT AND CHECK A LITTLE BIT MORE. THEY COULD BE, SOMEONE COULD HAVE A HUSBAND THAT LIVES IN MEXICO THAT MAKES AN INCOME AND THEY'RE NOT TELLING ME ABOUT THAT, AND IT JUST GIVES ME ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO CHECK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE THOROUGHLY. THE THIRD ONE IS ON HOW DO MAY, I'M SORRY. HOW DO YOU CURRENTLY DO THAT, MA'AM? OH, WHAT THEY DO IS WE HAVE, WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY GET AN APPLICATION, WE'LL MAKE IT A PART OF THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS, HAVE THEM TO FILL THIS OUT, AND THEN I WILL MAIL IT INTO THE, UM, US DEPARTMENT, AND THEN THEY'LL LET ME KNOW, THEY'LL SEND ME BACK SOMETHING. LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE. SO RIGHT NOW, THIS WILL JUST GIVE YOU ANOTHER, UH, AVENUE TO CHECK. SEE? YES. UHHUH . UM, I HAVE A LOT OF, UM, CLIENTS THAT COME IN THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALIENS FROM ILLEGAL AND SO I CANNOT DENY THEM ON THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ILLEGAL. BUT IF I CAN GET MORE DETAIL ON 'EM, WE CAN FIND OUT IF THEY HAVE PROPERTY IN MEXICO, WHICH WE CAN COUNT AS PART OF THE INCOME. IF THEY HAVE A HUSBAND IN MEXICO THAT RECEIVES AN INCOME. SEE, I CAN COUNT THOSE THINGS. AND THESE PEOPLE MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM. UH, THEY MAY HAVE, THEY MAY BE, UH, WAY BEYOND THE, UM, GUIDELINE LIMITS FOR OUR PROGRAM. IT'S JUST THE WAY TO CHECK TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE OTHER MEANS OUT THERE. AND THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR PROGRAM. SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO THIS, KATIE? UH, HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THIS? WHAT, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL HAVE THEM TO FILL THIS OUT. I'LL MAIL THIS INTO, UM, THE US DEPARTMENT OF SECURITY, AND THEN WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL LOOK AT IT AND THEN THEY'LL MAIL ME BACK A RESPONSE. LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE, IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER PROPERTY OUT THERE OR, OR GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON. SO THEY DO THIS AT NO CHARGE. MM-HMM. NO, I'VE TALKED TO OTHER COUNTIES AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS AND TURNING IT IN AND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL WITH IT. WE FACED THE SAME ISSUE WITH THAT ANY DEFENSE, UH, UH, PROGRAM AS WELL. AND, UH, AND I KNOW THAT GROUP IS LOOKING AT MAKING SOME, UH, UH, CHANGES IN THE FORMS THEY USED MM-HMM . AND THE INFORMATION THEY REQUEST, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY, I'M SURE DO THIS ON PURPOSE, BUT WE HAVE AN IDEA THAT IF SOMEBODY THINKS THEY CAN GET A FREE ATTORNEY OR A FREE HEALTHCARE, THEY MIGHT MOVE TO THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. WE DON'T CHECK. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE INDEPENDENT HEALTHCARE. MM-HMM. BUT NOT FOR, WE COULD USE THIS SAME GROUP FOR, UH, IT IS POSSIBLE. I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN, UH, SPEAK TO THE OTHER COUNTY, SEE IF THEIR ENERGY DEFENSE USES SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND I CAN GET WITH, WE ARE, WE'RE CURRENTLY ARE THE IN DEFENSE BOARD IS WORKING ON THAT NOW. AND TO FIND OUT IF WE NEED THAT, WE'RE THE CHECKING THAT WE'RE DOING, NOT ONLY DO YOU REQUIRE FORM, I'M GLAD THIS GROUP GONNA DO THIS, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WELL, I'M ALSO GOING, I'M GONNA BE A LITTLE HONEST WITH YOU ON THIS. WHAT POSSIBLY MAY HAPPEN IS ONCE WE ASK THEM TO FILL THIS FORM OUT, I MAY NOT HEAR FROM THEM BACK AGAIN. BECAUSE IF THEY ARE ILLEGAL, UM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE, ANYONE KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THE SAME, SO [00:15:01] I, YEAH. SO THEY MAY NOT, BUT IF I MAKE IT A PART OF MY PROCESS, UM, 'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THAT COME IN HERE AND I'VE SPOKE WITH OTHER COUNTIES AND, UM, THEY'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOMES IN MEXICO AND, YOU KNOW, VALUABLE HOMES IN MEXICO AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COUNT THAT PROPERTY AS PART OF THEIR RESOURCE. RIGHT. WHETHER THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR OUR PROGRAM. SO THE NEXT ONE, UM, IT'S ON, UM, PAIN DRUGS AND GENERIC. BASICALLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS IS, IS I HAD A PHYSICIAN TO CALL ME, UH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO TELLING ME THAT SOME OF MY CLIENTS ARE BEING VERY PERSISTENT ON NEEDING PAIN MEDS. UH, WE KNOW ONCE SOMEONE GETS ON PAIN MEDS, IT KIND OF GETS TO THE POINT WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADDICTION AND THEY JUST THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT EVERY DAY. SO, UM, A LOT OF OUR, WHAT WE'RE, AND IT IS COSTING THE COUNTY, THE PRESCRIPTIONS ARE COSTING COUNTY QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. UM, AND THE, THE DOCTORS ARE REALLY WANTING THESE PEOPLE TO TRY TO COME OFF THESE TYPE OF DRUGS. BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE PERSISTENT ON IT. SO WHAT WE DID, I WENT AND SPOKE TO SOME OTHER COUNTIES AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS, UM, THEY'RE KIND OF LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE CARE OF THESE PAIN DRUGS AND THESE, UH, OTHER TYPE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE ON A DAILY BASIS. AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA OFFER THEM IS MAYBE A DISCOUNT CARD OR MAYBE, UM, GIVE THEM INFORMATION WHERE THEY CAN GO TO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE MEDICINES, THEY CAN GO THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. BUT I'VE LISTED, UM, THE PAIN AND THE, THE, THE DRUGS THAT WERE NOT GOING TO BE, UH, OR WOULD NOT COVER ANYMORE. AND POSSIBLY IF THEY DO HAVE ANY TYPE OF SURGERY, WE WOULD COVER UP TO MAYBE 10 DAYS OF PAIN MEDS. AND IF THEY GO BACK TO THE DOCTOR AND THE DOCTOR FEELS LIKE THEY NEED TO HAVE IT JUST A LITTLE LONGER, THAT WE WILL REQUIRE THE DOCTOR TO DO A MEDICAL NECESSITY LETTER THAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE ON PAIN A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ONE IS REALLY ABOUT. QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN USING THIS, THIS LAST SHEET, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN USING ANY KIND OF A DEAL LIKE THAT? NO, SIR. PREVIOUS, SIR, UH, WE HAD ON THE, UM, THE FIRST FORM DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, IT DOES SAY THAT, UM, COFFMAN COUNTY, I ACTUALLY DOES NOT PAY FOR MEDICINES THAT, UM, CAN BE PURCHASED WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION RESTRICTION DRUGS, PAIN PSYCHIATRIC LIFESTYLE. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IS IF THE DOCTOR, UM, WRITES A MEDICAL NECESSITY LETTER SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY NEED THESE CERTAIN TYPES OF DRUGS OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU KNOW, WE DO IT. UM, THE ONLY THING IS, LIKE I SAID, NOW IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT THAT THE DOCTORS ARE FEELING LIKE THEY'RE ABUSING THIS. OKAY. SO THE ONLY THING THAT I KNOW TO DO IS HAVE THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, COVER THESE AFTER YOU HAVE SURGERY UP TO SO MANY DAYS AND THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA PROLONG THE MEDICINE. RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT RIGHT. TALKING ABOUT THE PAIN MEDICINE TALK, YOUNG PEOPLE WILL SHOCK THE DOCTORS. AND SO I'M, I'M GLAD YOU'RE PUTTING A STOP ON THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. MAKES AN EXCELLENT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR ABILITY TRYING TO GET ALL I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK TO THE DEFENSE COORDINATOR TO SEE IF YOU KIND OF COORDINATE SOME OF THESE CHECKUPS. OKAY. OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, NOT ON ENTERTAINED. MOTION TO CONSIDER APPROVAL REQUEST. MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND, SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KEEPING UP WITH THIS ALL. THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND IT IS FROM JEFF BROWN TO PRESENT A REPORT ON THE LENGTH OF TAX COLLECTIONS FROM PERIOD OF OCTOBER 1ST THOUSAND 12 THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2013. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, UH, YI THINK, UH, INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TELL YOU IS I'M, I THINK I MAY HAVE ALREADY LEFT THE JUDGE WOOD, BUT I'M GONNA LEAVE JUDGE WOOD A DETAILED COPY OF WHERE ALL THESE NUMBERS CAME FROM. DIDN'T I FELT LIKE I KILLED ENOUGH TRUTH ALREADY, MR. MANNING, ASKING DR. KELLY WHAT I HAVE TO, SO JUDGE WOOD'S OFFICE WILL HAVE THIS DETAIL IF YOU WANT, AT THE, UH, AS JUDGE WOOD HAS SAID, THIS IS FOR THE [00:20:01] FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR. UH, WE AS AS ALWAYS, CONTINUED OUR, OUR MAILING PROGRAM. WE, WE DO PHONE CALLS, WE FILE LAWSUITS, AND IT'S ALL DETAILED IN THIS COURT. UH, DURING THIS PAST SIX MONTHS, WE SENT EIGHT 300, UH, LETTERS ON YOUR BEHALF. UH, THE NEXT WEEK, YEAR IN REPORT, UH, PROBABLY AROUND THE MIDDLE OF OF NOVEMBER, YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER IS GREATLY INCREASED. 'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF MAILINGS THAT ARE GOING ON NOW, BUT WE DID MAY MAILING, WE'LL BE MAILINGS IN, IN JULY, AUGUST, PROBABLY SEPTEMBER, OR EITHER SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER. SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THOSE, THOSE MAILINGS ARE GONNA BE THE NEXT REPORT UNDER THE LAWSUITS. UH, WE, WE MANAGED LAWSUITS IN, IN THIS SIX MONTH PERIOD, SEEKING $867,000. WE HAD, UH, A PRETTY, PRETTY LARGE PROJECT. I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF REGARD TO THE TERRELL HOSPITAL THIS SPRING THAT DELAYED US IN GETTING SOME SIX FILES. BUT, SO IN ADDITION TO THESE, WE ALSO FILED 72 LAWSUITS THROUGH MAY, EXCUSE ME, DURING APRIL. UH, AND THOSE LAWSUITS, UH, ANOTHER THREE 60,000 WORTH. SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY RIGHT ON TARGET TO, UH, JUDGE THIS. HE AND I SET A, I THINK ONE OF THE GOALS WAS ABOUT FOUR SUITS A YEAR, SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PARTY. WITH REGARD, THIS GOING TO PAGE TWO UNDER THE DISMISSALS. UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN WE DISMISS A LAWSUIT, IT, IT GENERALLY MEANS, UH, 99.9% OF THE TIME WE COLLECT EVERYTHING THAT WE, UH, DISMISSED 77 LAWSUITS IN SIX MONTHS, AND WE COLLECTED, UH, AT LEAST SIX $64,000 PLUS COURT COSTS. LET'S REIMBURSE US FOR, FOR OUR RESEARCH FEES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE POSITIVE THINGS. WE GET TO DISMISSAL SECTION UNDER JUDGMENTS. UH, WE'VE TAKEN 75 JUDGMENTS, UH, IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS. UH, THAT'S JUST ABOUT THE, THE NORMAL THING THAT WE DO, UH, FOUR $25,000 AND BE INVOLVED IN THOSE JUDGEMENTS. UH, AND I ALWAYS WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HERE, THE DISTRICT CLERK, THE DISTRICT COURTS, UH, LAURA HUGHES OFFICE, THEY'RE ALL, WE, MY OFFER TAKES ADVANTAGE OF ALL THESE OFFICES AND ALL THE HELP AND ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIAL STAFF TO, TO GET OUR JOB DONE. AND, UH, I APPRECIATE THE SHERIFF IN PARTICULAR FOR, UH, MAKING DEPUTIES AVAILABLE TO GET THESE LAWSUITS, SERVING CITATIONS. THE HEADS OF PEOPLE, IF WE DON'T GET THE CITATION IN THEIR HANDS, IT'S HARD TO, HARD TO GIVE THEM BEFORE THE COURT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT JUDGE TIGER, UH, ALWAYS MAKES TIME AVAILABLE FOR ME. AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. IT IT, IT HELPS ME A LOT, UH, THAT I CAN CALL UP AND GET, GET THE SETTING THAT I NEED. I NEED UNDER THE TAX SALES SECTION, WE, WE'VE SOLD 47 TRACKS. THE, THE STUFF YOU APPROVED THIS MORNING WAS, WAS FROM THE RESALE, UH, MY OFFICE AND THE TAX OFFICER WORKING TOGETHER CLOSELY TO GET THE RESALES ACCOMPLISHED. WHEN WE HAVE TAX SALES, WE, WE PROBABLY SELL ABOUT, PROBABLY GET ABOUT A QUARTER OF 'EM PAID. WE SELL ABOUT A QUARTER, ABOUT HALF OF 'EM GET STRUCK OFF. SO IT'S, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A RESALE PROGRAM THAT THAT'S, THAT'S ACTIVE IN GETTING PROPERTIES BACK TO WORK. THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL APPROVED THIS MORNING, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. AND ALSO, UH, BELIEVE JUDGE WOOD MENTION THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF EXTRA RESALES OR PROPERTY. Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED THOSE AS WELL. THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. PROBABLY NOT AS SUCCESSFUL AS I WOULD LIKE IN THE TAR AREA, BUT WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA HIT IT AGAIN. PROBABLY GONNA WAIT TILL THE LATTER PART OF EARLY PART OF FALL. TRY DO THAT AGAIN. BUT, UH, UNDER, UNDER THE TAX SALES, UH, WE REALLY DON'T LIKE TAX SALES BECAUSE WE'RE SELLING TAX. IF WE'RE SELLING PROPERTY, WE'RE NOT COLLECTING MONEY, WE'RE NOT GETTING UP FRONT. SO, UH, WHEN WE GET THERE, IT, IT'S PRETTY SERIOUS DELINQUENCY AND A PRETTY SERIOUS STEP UNDER TAX WARRANTS. UH, WE'VE EXECUTED 44 TAX WARRANTS AND IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY BIG NUMBER FOR TAX WARRANTS. BUT, UH, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE FOUR $50,000 OF THAT WAS HOSPITAL. YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES. 12, A LOT OF BUSINESSES OWE TWO 3000. AND THAT, THAT'S A GOOD THING. IT MEANS THAT, UH, MOST OF YOUR BUSINESSES ARE PAYING, UH, PROBABLY 96, 90 8% OF BUSINESSES ARE PAYING BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES EVERY YEAR. I'M GOING AT A SMALL PERCENTAGE. THE NUMBERS LARGER THAN IT NORMALLY WOULD BE BECAUSE THE HOSPITAL EXCUSES THAT NUMBER BILL, UH, THE NEXT, UH, PARAGRAPH UNDER SPECIAL PROJECT, I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOSPITAL. UH, THAT WAS A VERY, UH, DIFFICULT AND SPECIAL THING BY THE WAY. ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WANTS TO KNOW WHAT YOU SHOULD NEVER DO SEIZE AND TRY TO CLOSE THE HOSPITAL. THAT'S SOME BAD THING. CAUSED YOU A LOT OF WORK, UH, CAUSED A LOT OF HURT FEELINGS, UH, [00:25:01] WITH EMPLOYEES. AND I STILL TO, TO THIS DAY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS PUTTING, UH, TAXPAYERS O COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, MORE THAN HALF MILLION DOLLARS MESS AROUND THAT. THE LAST PAGE IS THE ONLY PAGE THAT REALLY MATTERS. COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BECAUSE IT HAS A PUBLIC COLLECTIONS NUMBER THERE. UH, WE COLLECTED JUST A LITTLE UNDER $2.7 MILLION IN SIX MONTHS. UH, I SAY WE, THAT'S A VERY LARGE, WE, UH, I HAVE A GOOD STAFF HERE. UH, MS. IFFS BACK HERE. SHE HAS A REALLY GOOD STAFF. THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB TAKING MONEY AND RECEIVING. THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEA. UH, I KNOW THE AUDITOR SITS HERE. SHE MAKES SURE THEY TAKE CARE OF THE MONEY, THE TREASURER, THE TREASURY GETS IT IN THE BANK AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT, UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HIRED TO DO, IS HELP COLLECT THIS MONEY AND, UH, REALLY PROUD OF WHAT WE DONE LAST SIX MONTHS. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. BROWN? A COUPLE NOTES ON MY LIST RIGHT HERE IN THE LAWSUIT. UH, YOU SAID YOU FILED 40 POUNDS? YES. IS THAT A UP OR DOWN NUMBER FROM PREVIOUSLY ? IT, IT IS, UH, PROBABLY A LITTLE LOWER THAN IT NORMALLY WOULD'VE BEEN. HOSPITAL ACTIVITIES. THE HOSPITAL AFFECTED THAT. THAT'S WHY I GAVE YOU THE APRIL NUMBER, WHICH US BACK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, WE NORMALLY FILE FOR YEARS AND YEAR. WE FILED BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR, SIX YEARS AS NEEDED. WE'RE COMMISSIONER. I WOULD LIKE THAT TOO. BUT THIS ISN'T, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S WORKING. IT IT, AND I'LL SAY THIS, UH, THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW. I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE COUNTY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. THE COUNTY HAD ABOUT 48,000 PEOPLE WHEN I STARTED. THERE'S A FEW MORE ACCOUNTS AND THERE'S JUST A NUMBER OF THE SHEER NUMBERS. YOU SAY SHEER ORDERS, YOU BELIEVE PERCENTAGE WISE WE'RE DOING BETTER. YES, SIR. THE SECOND THING ON THE JUDGMENTS. YES SIR. WHAT IS, IS THERE AN AVERAGE RATE OF COLLECTION ON JUDGMENTS? IS THAT ANYTHING WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE? NO, SIR. UH, NOT, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. STATISTICALLY, WHEN WE GO TO JUDGMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT OCCUR. ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT, UH, A DISTRICT CLERK IS REQUIRED TO SEND OUT NOTICE OF THAT JUDGMENT TO THE PEOPLE WHO, MOST PEOPLE, BY THE WAY, MORE THAN 90% OF TAXPAYERS NEVER COME TO COURT. OKAY. SO WHEN THEY GET THE NOTICE OF JUDGMENT, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL WAKE FOLKS UP, THEY'LL COME DOWN, TRY TO GET PAID FOR FOOT. SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T WORK FOR US. SOMETIMES THE NOTICE SALE WILL DO THAT. SOMETIMES THE SALE THE DAY WILL BE SOMEBODY THE DAY OF THE SALE, THE DAY BEFORE YOU GET PAID. IT JUST, IT JUST VARIES. THERE'S NO WAY I KNOW OF TO QUANTIFY THAT SITUATION WHERE YOU GET, AND IT'S YOUR JOB TO UPDATE THESE JUDGMENTS AFTER WHEN THE TIMEFRAME RUNS OUT THE END. THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. I DO, JIM, SINCE WE, UH, WENT THROUGH THE, UH, PROCESS HERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND, AND, UH, WE GOT ON THIS, ON THE NEW, UH, COLLECTION PROGRAM, UH, MOST OF THE, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, SO TO SPEAK, HAS BEEN COLLECTED. UH, Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB DOING THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, STAY ACTIVE AND LET'S GET, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T GET A LOT MORE OF THESE CASES CLOSED AND GET SOME THAT MONEY COLLECTED. WE, WE ARE TRYING TO DO THAT EVERY DAY, COMMISSIONER. AND I HOPE WE'RE, HOPE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TIME. I GOING TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION BECAUSE YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE TIMES, BUT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 2 34 AND HIGHWAY 2 0 5, THERE IS A WHAT USED TO BE AFFORDED TO BE AN OLD DOUBLE WIDE, UH, MOBILE HOME. AND IT'S ALL GROWN UP. I MEAN, IT LOOKS TRASH AND KEN PROBABLY KNOWS WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT. UH, AND WHAT, WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THAT? AND, UH, IT, IT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY BAD SHAPE AND I'M SURE THERE'S LENGTH TAXES AGAINST IT. THERE ARE JUDGE, AND I HAVEN'T CHECKED WITH THAT IN, IN SOME PERIOD OF TIME, BUT, UH, WHEN I, THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, I BELIEVE THE OWNER OF THE MOBILE HOME WAS IN BANKRUPTCY, SO WE COULDN'T GO FORWARD. I HAVE NOT CHECKED. I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK ON THAT SHORTLY. TRYING TO AND I'M SURE WE'VE GOT INSTANCES LIKE ALL OVER THE COUNTY LIKE THAT, THAT JUST STICKS OUT LIKE SO. WELL, IT STICKS OUT BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE BACK FORTH TO ROCKAWAY, SEE, YEAH, AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, I'M ACTUALLY AWARE OF THOSE THINGS TOO. I, YOU, I DRIVE ROADS HERE TOO, AND I SEE THINGS LIKE THAT. [00:30:01] ONE OF THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I I DON'T MENTION THIS VERY OFTEN TO YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, FOR THE SERVICES WE OFFER IN THE COUNTY IS, IS OUR BANKRUPTCY SECTION. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN DALLAS AND THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF HELPING US GET THESE BANKRUPTCY THINGS MOVING FORWARD. A LOT OF TIMES BANKRUPTCY TRUSTEES, UNLESS THERE'S SOME IMPETUS THAT THEY LET CASES SIT THERE AND THEY DON'T MOVE THEM. AND, AND OUR STAFF THERE TRIES TO GET THESE THINGS MOVING ALONG. AND I'LL CHECK JUDGE, SORRY, YOU MENTIONED AGO. YEAH, ANOTHER THING, BACK WHENEVER WE, UH, REVIEWED THE CONTRACT, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT CAN BE USED TO GET PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND PAY THE TAXES. AND ONE OF THEM WAS RUNNING LIKE A FULL PAGE NEWSPAPER AD SHOWING DELINQUENT TAXES. I KNOW THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BEYOND WHAT WE NORMALLY DO. HAVE YOU HAD ANY RECENT SUCCESS IN DOING THAT? OR IS THERE ANY, WE'VE DONE THAT AS YOU, AS YOU, AS YOU ARE AWARE. UH, I THINK FIRST TIME WE DID IT, YOU WERE STILL SUPER GOOD ABOUT NOTHING TERRIBLE. I WAS AND IT WAS TOO. YOU DID. AND QUITE HONESTLY, JUDGE, WE HAVE A NEW TAX COLLECTOR IN THE ROOM AND I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T THROWN THAT DISCUSS. I THROW A LOT OF STUFF AT HER JUDGE AND I HAVEN'T THROWN THAT OUT AT HIM YET. SO, UH, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON JUDGMENT WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT SOMETIME LATER ON THIS SUMMER. AS YOU KNOW, AND I'LL TELL THIS COURT, I DON'T LIKE JUST TO TAKE THE LIST, PULL COURT OFF RECORDS AND THROW THE NEWSPAPER. I WOULD PREFER, UH, A SYSTEM WHERE WE SELECT, WHERE WE SELECT THE TOP ONE. LET'S SAY IN, UH, WE'RE GONNA SEND, WE'LL SEND EM A SPECIAL MAIL. TELL HIM, LOOK, IT'S, IT'S A SERIOUS DATE. YOU, YOU SQUARED AWAY. YOU DON'T HAVE A CERTAIN TIME. WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA PUBLISH IT IN THIS. I I JUST KIND OF THINK IT'S, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ENFORCE NORMAL COURSE WHAT WE DO. I THINK WE GOTTA GET NUTS. WELL, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY TAX ACCESS COLLECTION HAS BECOME A MAJOR PART OF THAT. YES. SHE'S THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE AUTHORIZED THAT TO HAPPEN. I WOULD SUPPOSE SO. SO, SO WE, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE IN, IN, LET ME BRING THIS . ANYTHING. SHE'S HAD A LOT ON HER PLATE. UH, SHE LEARNED A LOT LAST WEEK AT THE MEETING. SHE DID. SHE DID. SHE, SHE WAS A, BY THE WAY, I'M GONNA SAY SHE WAS A DILIGENT STUDENT. I KNOW SHE WAS, UH, THE JUDGE. NO, WE, WE ARE STILL DOING SOME THINGS. I KNOW THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA THIS FALL AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO THIS FALL. TWO YEARS AGO WE DID A WALK AND TALK. WE IDENTIFIED, UH, DELINQUENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAD A HOMESTEAD ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND WE WENT TO THOSE, TO THOSE HOMESTEAD OWNERS AND, AND TALKED AND KNOCKED ON THEIR DOOR, TALKED TO 'EM FACE TO FACE WHEN WE COULD, LEFT THEM STATEMENTS. AND WE GOT, WE COLLECTED A LOT OF MONEY THAT WAY WITHOUT HEADS, BY LAWSUITS, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE LADIES WHO WENT OUT VERY, UH, NOT ANTAGONISTIC AT ALL. IT VERY, THEY WERE NOT CONFRONTATIONAL. THEY JUST WANTED INFORMATION AND IT WORKED. WE'RE GONNA BE DEDICATED THIS AS WELL. WE'RE JUST, AND WE, WE CONTINUE TO USE PHONE, MAKE CALLING, THINGS LIKE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH JEFF? TANYA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? NO, SIR. IT'S JUST A PLEASURE WORKING WITH JEFF BROWN. GOOD. I GOT ONE QUESTION ON TAX SALES. YES SIR. THE, UH, AMOUNT THERE, IT SAYS 116,000 8 7 1. YES, SIR. WAS PROSECUTED IN THREE COUNTIES. KAMAN. , YES. THAT, UH, ONE 16 OUR PORTION, OR IS THAT ONE 16 IS THE TOTAL AND PROBABLY $3,000. VAN ZA PROBABLY $20,000 IS HENDERSON. AND IS THAT THE, THE VALUE THAT, THE AMOUNT THAT WE COLLECTED, OR WAS THAT THE VALUE? THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT WAS OWE AT THE SALE, AT THE TIME OF SALE OCCURRED. OKAY. SO THAT, I DON'T, UH, THE REASON I DON'T PHRASE THAT AS BEING COLLECTED BECAUSE IT WAS, IT, IT'S NOT ALWAYS COLLECTED BECAUSE IF IT STRUCK OFF, YOU DON'T GET ANY MONEY. I APPRECIATE IT. AND, AND I, I, I'M GLAD YOU RAISED THAT BECAUSE KEMP SCHOOL AND MAY MAKE SCHOOL GO IN HENDERSON COUNTY AND MAY GOES INTO TER GOES UP INTO HUNT COUNTY A LITTLE BIT. SO WE ARE, WE ARE SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES NUMBERS YOU SEE HERE MAY REFLECT ACTION ACTIVITIES THAT OCCURRED A LITTLE BIT OUT HERE. BUT IT'S MORE THE LOCAL JURISDICTION FOR IF I DO SOMETHING IN HUNT COUNTY, I KNOW. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S ALL, IT'S TERRORIZED. SO HENDERSON AND LIKEWISE WITH WILL'S POINT, I ASKED DID HE COME? THEY'RE HERE. YES SIR. THEY'RE WILL NEEDS A BIG CHUNK OF COFFEE. YEAH, IT'S ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH JEFF ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR? THIS IS NOT, UH, REQUIRE APPROVAL, BUT, UH, APPRECIATE THE REPORT. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS ALSO A REPORT FROM JAIL. THAT'S FROM THE BELIEVE WE HAVE HANDOUT FOR THAT AS WELL. JUDGE, I [00:35:01] HAVE GIVEN, IN FACT, TWO HANDOUTS. UM, DOES COURT HAVE TIME GO THROUGH YOUR, THANK YOU. IF Y'ALL WOULD. UH, AS LONG AS IT INVOLVE GETTING MONEY FOR YOU'RE GOOD. THAT FIRST ONE IS THE JANUARY THROUGH APRIL, UH, REPORT. IF WE COULD WE LOOK AT THAT JUST REAL QUICKLY. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE NUMBER FOR, UH, BY THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE NUMBER FOR THE, THE ENTIRE COUNTY FOR ALL THE JPS DOWN 12.1%. AS YOU CAN SEE, JP ONE, UH, IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S IN THE POSITIVE TERRITORY. UH, JP TWO IS DOWN QUITE A BIT. JP THREE, THE JP FOUR ARE DOWN, UH, A WHOLE LOT MORE. I'M SURE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING PLACEMENTS, UH, I ABOUT SEAN, MAKING SURE HE'S MEETING WITH THE, WITH THE CLERKS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING ALL THE REPLACEMENTS THEY NEED TO GET SO THAT WE CAN HELP ALL WE CAN. I THINK THAT IS, THAT IS OCCURRING THE WAY IT SHOULD. BUT THE, UH, THE TOTAL, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN CALL IT A DEFICIT. WE'VE COLLECTED A HUNDRED, $131,000 LESS FROM ALL FOUR JPS 2013 TO 2012. THAT'S, THAT'S 12.1%. NOW, IF WE PICK UP THE OTHER REPORT, IT IS THE ONE THAT GOES ACTUALLY THROUGH MAY. AND, UH, ON THE COLLECTION DOWN 12 POINT PERCENT THROUGH, UH, APRIL, IT'S ONLY DOWN TO 10.6% THROUGH MAY. UH, IT'S $5,000 ADDITIONAL THAT IT'S SHORT, BUT THE PERCENTAGE IS GETTING BETTER, UH, BECAUSE THE JPS ARE ACTUALLY IMPROVING. WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON? IF YOU CAN LOOK BETWEEN THE REPORTS, UH, JP ONE IS STILL UP ABOUT 4.1%. JP TWO IS ACTUALLY, UH, UH, GETTING CLOSER TO TO, EVEN IF IT WAS BEFORE JP THREE PICKED UP BY 3% IS ONLY DOWN 6%. AND JP FOUR IS HOLDING STEADY LESS. UH, I'M SURE THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE IS WHY THOSE NUMBERS ARE DOWN. I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. UH, I IN VISITING WITH, WITH MIKE SMITH. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE, THEY'VE HAD QUITE AS MANY OFFENSES THIS YEAR AS THEY DID LAST. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE VARIATIONS TO THAT SORT. I DO BELIEVE THAT. UH, UH, AS I SAID EARLIER ABOUT WORKING ON PLACEMENTS, I MEAN THE PLACEMENTS ARE HAPPENING WITH REGARD TO COMING TO US. UM, I HAD AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY CLERK BEFORE, BEFORE MEETING AGAIN. SHE AND I, SHE ACTUALLY HAD MY SAME THOUGHT, WHICH WAS WHEN WE BEGAN THESE COLLECTIONS BACK IN 2011. IN 2012, UH, TO USE MR. MANNING'S PHRASE, WE MAY HAVE, WE MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, TO GET THE LOW HANGING FRUIT 2013, MAYBE MORE THE, THE, THE NORMAL GEAR AT THE CURRENT LEVELS IN TERMS OF, OF OFFENSES. THINGS ARE NOT PAYING THAT TWO, 2013 MAY BE THE YEAR WE ALL BE LOOKING AT. I DON'T, I, UH, I DO KNOW THAT, UH, JUDGE WOOD HAS ASKED ME NEXT MONTH TO GIVE A REPORT THAT DETAILS 2011, 1213. I'M PREPARE THAT AND TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S OCCURRED ALL THREE YEARS. DO THIS SO THAT YOU CAN GET, KIND OF, GET A FEEL FOR IT. UM, I WHAT IT'S GONNA SHOW YOU, I I HAVEN'T DONE, I HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET, OBVIOUSLY. AND I WHAT IT'S GONNA SHOW, I DO BELIEVE, UH, IN VISITING WITH THE JPS, THAT, THAT THEIR, THEIR STAFFS ARE WORKING HARD. THEY DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. THEY'RE MAKING THE PLACEMENTS WITH US. I KNOW THAT WE'RE MAKING A PHONE CALL SENDING LETTERS AND THEY'RE MAKING CONTACT FOLKS. UH, I'M GONNA BE REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE HOW IT GOES THE REST OF YEAR TO SEE WE CAN'T GET THOSE NUMBERS CLOSER. WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, 2013 AND JANUARY AS COMPARED IN 2013, THEN 2012, YOU SEE THIS JANUARY, ALL FOUR COURTS WE WERE 195,000 LAST YEAR WE WERE 234,000. AND CERTAINLY IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WERE IN 2011. THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REALLY STARTED RAMPING IT UP MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT IT WAS IN 2010. BUT IT'S STILL, I MEAN THAT'S ABOUT 40,000. AND SAME WAY WITH MARCH 2 63, UH, THIS YEAR AS COMPARED TO 2 89 LAST YEAR, APRIL 1, 9 4, 2 34 LAST YEAR IN MAY FOUR, BUDGET EXPECTED TO, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I MENTIONED LAST WEEK WHEN WE WERE IN HERE, THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA REALLY HAVE TO COME IN AND LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE, [00:40:01] UH, SOME OF OUR SPENDING HERE. I THINK PEOPLE THAT GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR REVENUE'S GOING BE DOWN. THAT'S WHAT GOT US INTO THE, THIS PROBLEM WE HAD THREE YEARS AGO. SO, AND, AND JUDGE AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD, YOU AND I HAD DISCUSSION, I THINK YOU HAD DISCUSSION WITH SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TOO ABOUT HOW DO WE BUDGET OF THESE NUMBERS. YEAH. IT'S, IT IS BEEN ALL KNOWN AN INEXACT SCIENCE OFFICER YEAR, EVEN YEAR TO YEAR. IT, IT DIFFERS. UH, UH, I KNOW FROM TALKING TO THE JPS AND THE CONSTABLES, IT DIFFERS ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY GOT. WORKING CASES, WORKING TRAFFIC, UH, THE WEIGHTS AND MEASURES FOLKS, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THE SHERIFF HAD DO DO WHAT THEY DO. SO IT DOES MATTER. UH, I, I, WHEN I TALKED TO JUDGE SMITH, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, DEPENDS, SOMETIMES DEPENDS ON THE, ON HOW MANY TROOPERS DPS HAS TO WORK, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY IN ANY OF OUR CONTROL THAT DO AFFECT WHAT COMES IN, WHAT WHAT HAS OCCURRED. OKAY. OTHER, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OBJECTIONS, FINE FEES. I WOULD LIKE, WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME KIND OF A MECHANISM OR GAUGE WHERE WE ELIMINATED, YOU KNOW, OUR BIG, OUR BIG JUMP BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET THAT THE POPULATION GOES UP BECAUSE OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT TIME IT'S ON THERE. BUT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, MAYBE WE CAN, SOME NUMBER THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PROJECT THAT WILL BE AN ACTUAL NUMBER WOULD BE A BIG HELP TO US. HUGE HELP. MAYBE REACH A HIGHER TO TREAT YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT THIS REPORT THAT I MAKE, I HOPE I CAN GET THE DATA. IT MIGHT BE INSTRUCTED TO KNOW HOW MANY CASES ARE REPRESENTED BY THESE NUMBERS. YEAH. THAT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY INSTRUCTED AS WELL. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO WHAT I CAN. I'LL GET WITH BARBARA TO SEE IF SHE CAN HELP GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU AS WELL. OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT ONE? CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. UM, JEFF, ON THESE REPORTS THAT YOU, YOU PREPARE FOR THE COURT? YES. WHEN YOU REIT THAT THE MONEY TO THOSE JACOBS FOR THOSE COLLECTIONS THAT MONTH, DO YOU GIVE 'EM THIS DETAILED REPORT THAT'S BEHIND IT SO THEY KNOW WHERE TO CODE ALL THIS TO? WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HANDLE MONEY. J ALL THE MONEY GOES TO JACOBS. WELL, YEAH, BUT DO THEY GET A COPY OF THIS REPORT? TO THIS REPORT? YEAH, I DON'T REMEMBER. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE THIS REPORT COMES FROM, FROM, THIS IS FROM THEIR REQUISITE. BARBARA FORMS DOWN FOR ME. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER ONE OF THE, I BELIEVE BARBARA. I BELIEVE BARBARA. BARBARA DOES. BARBARA. OKAY. ONE OF THOSE FINDINGS WAS THAT WE COULDN'T GET LIKE A GOOD NUMBER ON ACTUAL RECEIVABLES TO, TO GET HER NUMBER TO WRITE OFF BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT CATEGORIES THEY FELL IN. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM. SO I'LL FIND OUT FROM BARBARA. WE ALL NEED TO SIT UP AND DISCUSS. YEAH, WE, WE'VE GOT, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN IN THE AUDIT FINDING FOR A COUPLE, THREE YEARS NOW. THAT'S, WE GOT NAILED DOWN BEYOND QUESTION, JUDGE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU JUDGE. PRESENTATION COURT APPROVAL. SO WE'LL MOVE TO SIXTH, STEVE, WHO IS GONNA DISCUSS AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE REGIONAL PUBLIC WORKS EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM. MUTUAL AID. THANK YOU JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. UH, WHAT I PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU TODAY IS, UH, THE REGIONAL PUBLIC WORKS EMERGENCY RESPONSE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT. UH, SO FAR THERE'S ABOUT 16 OR 18 JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY SIGNED ONTO IT. UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS DEPENDING ON WHAT AREA IN OUR REGION HAS A DISASTER, IF THEY CALL UPON US, WE WOULD SEND, YOU KNOW, A WHEEL LOADER OR TRACK HOLE OR SOMETHING. GO, UH, DUMP TRUCKS TO ASSIST THEM. AND SAME THING FOR US. IF WE HAVE THE DISASTER, THEY WOULD SEND EQUIPMENT TO US. NOW, I'LL TELL YOU, I DON'T SEE THEM CALLING ON US THAT OFTEN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF RESOURCES. UH, I DO SEE US BEING THE, THE GREATER BENEFICIARY IN THIS BECAUSE THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING THAT ARE ALREADY ON BOARD HAVE FAR MORE RESOURCES THAN WE CAN IMAGINE. SIGN BOARDS AND, UH, ALL SORTS OF STUFF THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE OUT HERE. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE IN OUR BENEFIT TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, UH, AGREEMENT BECAUSE LIKE I TRY TO TELL FOLKS IT'S NOT, YEP. IT'S WHEN WE HAVE A BIG DISASTER, WE'RE GONNA NEED EVERYTHING WE CAN GET. AND THIS IS JUST ONE WAY TO HELP [00:45:01] US IN OUR AREA AS WELL AS FOR US TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND HELP OTHERS IN THEIR AREA. ANY QUESTIONS? WHO FURNISHED THE EQUIPMENT? THE, THE ROADING BRIDGE CREWS WOULD FURNISHED THE EQUIPMENT. I DID RUN THIS BY JOHN LONG AND ACCORDING TO HIM, I THINK I READ IT BY HIM TWICE. YEAH, WE GOT ABOUT THE FIRST TIME, BUT I GET CONFUSED EASILY. SO I, SO YOU JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOUR FIRST ANSWER WAS, WE APPROVED THE GRIEVANCE SINCE JOHN LI WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO, UH, APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM, UH, STEVE, WE HAVE A SECOND, UM, FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO, UH, DO SO ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? DOES THIS, I I HAVE A QUESTION. DOES THIS INCLUDE ALL TYPES OF, OF AID AS FAR AS, UH, FIRES, TORNADO, UH, FLOODING? YES, SIR. YOU, IT, IT'S A MULTI HAZARD. IT'S, IT'S EVERYTHING. HAZMAT SPILLS, , WELL, NOT NECESSARILY HAZMAT. IT'S MAINLY GEARED TOWARDS NATURAL. I MEAN SAY A MAJOR, A MAJOR UH, HA, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS EVENT. IF IT IS A MAJOR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS EVENT, IT'S POSSIBLE. BUT MOST OF THE JURISDICTIONS OUTSIDE OF OURS HAVE THE EQUIPMENT ON HAND TO HANDLE, HANDLE THAT. ALRIGHT. AND THIS IS FOR 36 HOURS. UM, AFTER THAT, AFTER WILL CHARGE THE TIME AFTER, AFTER THAT INITIAL TIME PERIOD, THEN THE ENTITIES WILL CHARGE. AND THAT'S TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FEMA GUIDELINES. SO AFTER 36 HOURS, THEN WE GET REIMBURSED. BUT THEN IF IT, IF IT IS A FEDERALLY DECLARED DISASTER AND WHO, WHO IDENTIFIES WHAT A, UM, NATURAL DISASTER IS, WOULD THAT BE, WOULD YOU DECLARE OR WOULD THE GOVERNOR HAVE TO DECLARE A NATURAL DISASTER IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE, THE JURISDICTION EFFECT WOULD DECLARE THE DISASTER. UM, IF, IF IT'S HERE IN KAMAN COUNTY, JUDGE WOOD WOULD MAKE THE DECLARATION. IF IT IS IN, UH, KE, THEN THEIR MAYOR WOULD MAKE IT AS WELL AS JUDGE WARREN. UH, IF IT'S IN DALLAS, MAYOR OF DALLAS AND THE DALLAS COUNTY JUDGE WOULD MAKE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND FAVOR, SAY THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO, UH, HEAR FROM OUR AUDITOR. UH, FOR THE REPORT FOR THE GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONER. UM, OUR BENCHMARK WOULD BE AT 0.667% FOR YOUR EIGHT MONTHS OF OPERATIONS. THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND IS REVENUES AT THAT 88%. UH, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THAT, THAT SEEMS KIND OF LOW WOULD BE OUR CHARGES FOR SERVICES WHERE YOUR FEES THAT JEFF BROWN WAS JUST REPRESENTING AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN NORMAL INTEREST. YOU JUST, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE HAVE ON HAND THAT'S INVESTED IN THE INTEREST RATE THAT WE'RE GETTING. UH, MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES ARE, ARE DOWN. THEY'RE PRETTY COMPARABLE TO THE ONE THAT'S CHARGES FOR SERVICES. UM, YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT 62.9%, WHICH IS WAY LESS THAN UM, WHAT YOU SHOULD BE AT THE BENCHMARK. SO THAT MEANS EVERYBODY, LIKE THE JUDGE SAID, IS STILL WATCHING THEIR, THEIR SPENDING OF THEIR MONEY. UH, ROAD AND BRIDGE. THE MAIN ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND IS AT 84% COLLECTIONS. THE TRANSFERS OUT TO THE FOUR PRECINCTS, UH, OR IS AT 81. SO YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE LESS THAN THE REVENUES YOU BROUGHT IN. UH, THE ROAD AND BRIDGE REVENUES FOR THE FOUR FUNDS IS AT 67.35% AND YOUR EXPENDITURES AT 43.69% FOR THE MONTHLY MONEY. SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE WATCHING YOUR EXPENDITURES AS WELL. SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? WELL, AGAIN, I GUESS I GO BACK UP TO THE, TO THE REVENUE PORTION OF [00:50:01] IT. IT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO WATCH THAT AND KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THE REST OF THIS, UH, BUDGET YEAR. ALRIGHT, I HAD SOMETHING ELSE PREPARED FOR Y'ALL ON THIS. WAS ASKED A, A QUESTION AND I THOUGHT I WOULD PREPARE SOMETHING FOR YOU SO YOU COULD SEE, AND I'LL EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE I KNOW COMMISSIONER CLARK'S PROBABLY GONNA LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE AND QUESTIONING ON IT. SO I EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW YOU, HOW HOW IT WORKS. I WAS ASKED FOR CASH ON HAND AND ALL THE BANK ACCOUNTS. ALL THE BANK ACCOUNTS. WE HAVE ABOUT $20 MILLION, BUT THAT'S NOT ALL THE COUNTY'S MONEY. THOSE ARE DIFFERENT FUNDS. SO I WENT THROUGH AND PULLED ALL THE FUNDS FOR YOU SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL BANK ACCOUNT. ALRIGHT, YOU CASH ON HAND, YOU LOOK ON THE SECOND PAGE, THE LINE THAT SAYS 10 MILLION, THAT'S FUND NINE. NINE NINE. THAT SAYS POOL CASH. THAT'S A COMBINATION OF SEVERAL OF THESE THAT'S USED FOR THE BANK RECONCILIATION. DISREGARD THAT FUND. IT'LL BE VERY CONFUSING. IT'LL LOOK LIKE WE HAVE 30 MILLION WHEN WE DON'T. ALRIGHT. SO THAT'S THE WAY THE REPORT RAN IS RUN BECAUSE THAT LETS HER KNOW, JOHNNY KNOW, UH, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BANK, TRANSFERS OR WHATEVER, WHAT'S IN THE MONEY MARKET ACCOUNTS, WHAT'S IN OUR INVESTMENT ACCOUNTS. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING EXTRA FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. SO YOU COULD SEE WE DO DEAL WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDS, A LOT OF MONEY AT ALL TIMES. SO YOU ASKED WHAT WE, WE HAD ON HAND HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAD AND I GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO LET YOU ANY QUESTIONS? SO THE ACTUAL CASH ON HAND IS THE 20 MILLION? YES SIR. AS OF FRIDAY WHEN WE PAY THESE BILLS, IT'LL BE LESS THAN THAT. DEPENDS ON WHAT'S BEEN BROUGHT IN ALSO. 'CAUSE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE RECEIVING OF THE MONIES, THE INTEREST. AND THEN WHEN YOU PAY BILLS. SO YOU'LL EITHER ADD THE CASH OR YOU'RE GOING TO SUBTRACT ALL DURING THE, DURING THE WEEK AND DURING THE MONTH. SO AS OF FRIDAY, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD ON HAND. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THESE MONTHLY? YES SIR. UH, THAT WOULD TO ME WOULD, IT WOULD BE BETTER COMING FROM THE COUNTY TREASURER BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT HE HAS ON ACTUAL ON HAND. IF HE HAS SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN RECORDED THAT NEEDS TO BE RECORDED. THIS I KNOW HAS BEEN RECORDED. IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU WANT TO DO TO REPORT. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. THIS WOULD REALLY COME MORE TO ME BECAUSE HE CONTROLS THE INVESTMENTS, HE CONTROLS THE BANK ACCOUNTS AND THE BANK RECONCILIATIONS. YES SIR. WOULD Y'ALL LIKE FOR ME TO WRITE JOHNNY A LETTER AND JUST ASK HIM? OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS MR. ASK WHY DO YOU KEEP POINTING ME UP? ANSWER WHEN YOU SAY STUPID QUESTIONS, YOU ALWAYS, I DIDN'T SAY STUPID QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, UH, AS THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THIS. AND WHEN YOU ASKED ABOUT IT, I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER TRANE AND ANOTHER COMMISSIONER HAS MENTIONED THEY'D LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY BANK ACCOUNTS WE HAVE, HOW MANY FUNDS. WHEN YOU SEE WE HAVE TWO PAGES OF FUNDS, IT GIVES YOU THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS COUNTY TREASURER AND AS THE AUDITOR BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE THINGS CODED TO THE RIGHT FUNDS, THE RIGHT LINE ITEMS. AND SOMETIMES WE MAKE THOSE MISTAKES. AND YOU'RE USUALLY THE ONE THAT WILL HELP US CATCH SOME OF THAT BECAUSE YOU'LL ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION AND WE START DIGGING. NOT THAT ANYBODY'S STUPID. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT WAY. YOU CAN PICK ON ME ALL YOU WANT. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES SIR. I SEE SOMETHING IN HERE THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN PROVE, SIR. OKAY. WHICH ONE? NUMBER TWO AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND PAGE IS DANGEROUS AND WILD ANIMALS. IS THAT, DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH, WITH THE, UH, UH, THERE USED TO BE SOME TIGER OR LINES OR SOMETHING IN THIS COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL GOT 'EM OR NOT. IS THAT WHERE THAT COMES FROM? THAT I THINK THAT WAS SOME GRANT MONEY OR SOMETHING. IT IT'S A SEPARATE FUND. AND THAT MONEY'S JUST BEEN SITTING THERE. THAT'S ALL THE TECH CAN BE USED FOR OR CAN THAT BE USED? UH, AS FAR AS SAY, UH, UH, VICIOUS DOGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, COMMISSIONER, I HAVE NO IDEA. THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME. I, WE COULD RESEARCH IT, [00:55:01] ASK THE COUNTY TREASURER WHAT IT WAS SET UP FOR, MAYBE REFER THAT TO UH, A COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE. WELL WE GOT A BUNCH OF THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE VERY SMALL, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY NEED TO BE. THERE'S UH, IN FACT, UH, FOURTH FROM THE BOTTOM, UH, ON THE SECOND PAGE, THAT'S S-C-A-A-P DIVERSITY TRAINING. THE SHERIFF AND THE CONSTABLES NEED TO USE THAT MONEY. ASAP PLEASE. UH, THAT'S, THEY'LL HAVE MORE MONEY COME IN ONCE THEY'VE USED THAT PROBABLY. UH, AND IT, IT NEEDS TO BE USED. 'CAUSE THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, REBEL LESS TO GET THESE GRANTS. 'CAUSE THAT'S FREE MONEY. AND THEN THEY'LL DO THEIR PROGRAM AND THEY'LL FORGET THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE SIX, $700 IN THAT LINE ITEM AND THEY WON'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING. AND SO IT JUST SITS IDLE IN THOSE DIFFERENT FUNDS. AND WE TRIED TO CLOSE A FEW OF THOSE OUT THIS YEAR. OKAY. MOST OF THEM PROBABLY STILL BE CLOSED. MM-HMM . IS THAT A GRANT IN STATE FOR TRAINED LAW ENFORCEMENT OR YES. IS THAT THE, THE MONEY THAT COMES OUT WITH AGS OFFICE? I BELIEVE SO. CHAIR. DID THEY REINSTATE THAT YOU THEY THEY TOOK THAT COUPLE SECONDS AGO. RIGHT. BUT THIS IS MONEY THAT YOU HAD LEFT OVER. YEAH, THE COPS WERE MONEY THEY STOPPED AT YEAH. COMES OUT PLANNING COUNCIL. RIGHT. I WAS TOLD BY THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS THAT WE NEEDED TO GET CHILD TO USE THAT FOR THE TRAINING BECAUSE THEY'RE HEARING THAT WE'RE GONNA GET SOME EXTRA MONEY. OKAY. WHAT IS THE AMOUNT IN THERE? YEAH, YOU JUST WANNA GO SPEND IT. PARDON? 39,005 40. IS THAT TOTAL OR IS THAT THAT'S THE TOTAL THAT'S LEFT IN THAT AS A FRY. AND THAT IS DISPERSED BETWEEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE COMPANY OFFICE. I, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S INVOLVED ANOTHER OFFICE. THE FIRE MARSHAL. FIRE MARSHAL MIGHT BE INVOLVED. OKAY. I HAD, I HAD SOME MONEY BUDGETED, BUT Y'ALL NEVER DID SPEND IT AND IT PROBABLY NEGLECT ON MY SIDE TO INFORM AND HAD BUDGETED MONEY. WELL, WOULD THAT APPEAR ON ANY OF OUR PAPERWORK? NO. OKAY. WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. WELL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO READ YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT. THAT TAKES ME 30 HOURS TO PREPARE. OH, I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS LIKE 5,000 A PIECE THAT WAS PUT IN THERE FOR THE CONSTABLES. THEY SAID THAT WAS A A NO, YOU'RE THINKING OF THE T CLOSE. T CLOSE STOPPED BROUGHT UP NOT GOING BACK. , YOUR T CLOSE DID STOP AND WE FIXED THOSE. CORRECT. OKAY. THIS ISN'T, THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT FUND. OKAY. IT'S FOR DIVERSITY TRAINING. UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT ALL THE INITIALS, BUT I THINK SHERIFF, IT'S UH, HAS TO DO WITH, UH, ILLEGAL ALIENS AND COMMUNITY DIVERSITY TRAINING. WELL, WE GET THEM IN THE JAIL, WE GET SCAP FROM THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. BUT THAT FILM WE USE IN THE JAIL RIGHT. IS CAPITAL. OKAY. SO WE'LL JUST TAKE A PRINTOUT. I'LL GET, OBVIOUSLY GET IT SENT TO YOU, LOOK AT SO WE CAN GET IT. OKAY. OKAY. ONE MORE FOR YOU LATER. YES SIR. THE NUMBER 84. THE A CH ACCOUNT? YES SIR. SIR, WHAT IS THAT FOR? YES SIR. THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WE PUT IN THERE TO DO THE A CH FOR THE DIFFERENT WIRE TRANSFERS. WE HAVE TO HAVE MONEY IN THAT BANK ACCOUNT. A CH BEING UH, AUTOMATED CLEARING HOUSE. OKAY. THE WIRE, WIRE? YEAH, IT'S LIKE WIRE TRANSFERS. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE BOAR ISLAND WEST? I TRIED TO GET PERMISSION TO GO THAT ONE TIME AND FOUND OUT IT'S ON THE RIVER, SO I DIDN'T BASICALLY IN DALLAS COUNTY. WHAT THAT IS? IT'S A LE DISTRICT. OKAY. BUT I THINK IT MOSTLY, IT MOSTLY IN DALLAS COUNTY. I THINK WE, WE'VE TRIED TO IS THAT TO MAINTAIN THE, IT IS TO MAINTAIN THE LEVY, BUT, UH, DALLAS COUNTY HADN'T APPOINTED A BOARD SINCE THE LAST ONE RESIGNED. AND THERE'S NOBODY TO SPEND THE MONEY. AND IT IS A, IT IS KIND OF A SENSITIVE ISSUE BETWEEN FAIR COUNTY AND OURS BECAUSE THAT'S THE LEVY THAT HAS BREACHED AND WHERE'S IN OUR COUNTY, THEIRS IS NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH TO FIX IT. WHERE'S THE LEVY LOCATED? IT'S ON THE TRIPLE R RANCH ON THAT BACKGROUND. GOING THROUGH THAT IT BOTH COUNTY? YES SIR. IT, IT'S IN THE COUNTY [01:00:01] SO IT WOULD BE BELOW DOWNSTREAM FROM THE PUMP STATION WHERE THEY PUMP THE WATER BACK TO LAKE LAVAN. AT LEAST GO HUNTING IN THERE. CROSS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'VE UH, HEARD THE REPORT. I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO HEAR FROM, UH, LAURA FLOYD CONSIDER APPROVING THE PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL, BUT NOT IN TOTALITY. I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO DO SPECIFIC. WELL, IT'S PRETTY MUCH DONE. UM, WE HAD THE WORKSHOP ON WEDNESDAY, UM, MAY 15TH AND TALKED IN DETAIL ABOUT THE PROPOSED POLICY. UM, THERE WAS THREE, UM, THINGS THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS FURTHER. THE ONE WAS THE TOBACCO POLICY. I DID LOOK UP THE CITY ORDINANCE. THE CITY ORDINANCE, UM, THAT I KIND OF COPIED BELOW. IT IS 20 FEET AND Y'ALL KIND OF DISCUSSED 25 FEET. SO I DID LEAVE THE POLICY AT 25 FEET. UM, ANY COUNTY ENTRANCE IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT. IF NOT, I CAN CHANGE IT TO THE CITY ORDINANCE, WHICH IS 20 FEET. SO, UM, THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL. AND THEN THE CELL PHONE POLICY, I LEFT IT HOW IT WAS APPROVED. IT HAD BEEN APPROVED, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. I JUST COPIED IT INTO THE POLICY. UM, THE ONLY THING WAS Y'ALL DIDN'T WANT TO DISCUSS FURTHER ABOUT, IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHO IS TO ISSUE A PHONE. AND Y'ALL WERE DISCUSSING ABOUT WHETHER TO GO INTO A STIPEND OR CELL PHONE. Y'ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER. BUT THE ACTUAL CELL PHONE POLICY THAT Y'ALL HAD ALREADY APPROVED IS IN THERE. UM, I JUST KNOW THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER ABOUT THEEND. JACK HAD TALKED ABOUT IT IN DETAIL, BUT AS FAR AS THE POLICY, IT'S IN THERE AS IT HAD BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT. AND THEN THE COUNTY VEHICLE POLICY. I REMOVED IT ENTIRELY BECAUSE THERE WAS LOTS OF DISCUSSION, UM, LEFT ON THAT ONE AND IT STILL NEEDED TO BE TALKED ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT, Y'ALL DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. I MADE A FEW CHANGES THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT. UM, AND THOSE WERE ON THE ATTACHED, ALL THE OTHER CHANGES, THE LAYOUT WAS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE, THE OTHER POLICY THAT I ADDED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THERE, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD FORT. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT IN THE WORKSHOP I CORRECT. I'VE READ ABOUT A HUNDRED TIMES. SO, SO THERE WON'T BE A COUNTY VEHICLE POLICY AS FAR AS THERE'S NOT. WHO TAKES ONE HOME? THERE'S NOT ONE ANYWHERE AS OF TODAY. NO, BECAUSE Y'ALL WANTED TO TALK. SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS MAKE AN ADDENDUM. YEAH, AND WE CAN JUST ADD IT IN THERE LATER. I HAVE ONE, Y'ALL JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER. SO I WANTED TO WORK ON THAT MORE AND HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON IT. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE SMOKING COMPLAINT? IT'S RIGHT NOW THE CITY ORDINANCE IS 20 FEET. THE CITY ORDINANCE IS 20 FEET. YES. AND OURS IS 25 AND I DID IT IN 25 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT IN THE WORKSHOP. OUR CURRENT POLICY THAT'S IN PLACE NOW IS 10 FEET. SO IT'S NOT EVEN UP TO THE CITY ORDINANCE. WELL, I STEPPED IT OFF FROM THE BACK DOOR TO THE BENCHES OVER THERE AND IT'S ABOUT 31 AND A HALF FEET JUST STEPPING IT OFF. AND THE BENCH IS IN THE FRONT. THEY'RE ABOUT 18, SO THEY MAY NEED TO BE MOVED. YOU GONNA LET PEOPLE ON THE BENCH SMOKE, WHICH COULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, I TELL BE PERFECT WITH YOU. I DIDN'T LOOK THEY, SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT GO, CURRENTLY IT'S 10 FEES. THE CURRENT POLICY THAT SOME PLACES 10 CITY ORDINANCE IS 20. HAVE Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT 25? YOU KNOW, YOU WANT GO 20? WHAT ABOUT CITY ORDINANCES? I JUST CHECKED CORAN CITY ORDINANCE I THINK, I THINK IS 25. WHAT? I DUNNO IF CAMP HAS ONE OR NOT. I DIDN'T EVEN CHECK THE OTHER CITIES. I JUST, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT, [01:05:01] WELL, BEFORE WE DO THAT, WHY DON'T WE FIND OUT WHAT THE OTHER CITIES ARE? TRY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERY CITY MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT AMOUNT, BUT WE PROBABLY ALL TRY TO BE SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT OR AT LEAST HAVE THEN I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT TO EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW? YES. WELL, AND OUR PLAN, MY PLAN IS TO, I ASSUME THAT Y'ALL APPROVE THIS ONE AND HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE BECAUSE THERE ARE CHANGES THAT AFFECT EMPLOYEES. UM, LIKE THE HOLIDAY POLICY, VACATION POLICY, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S POLICY THAT EMPLOYEES, SO NOT ONLY DO I ON, YOU KNOW, GIVING A COPY OUT TO EVERY EMPLOYEE NOTIFYING, ASKING THEM TO HAVE WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING, BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TIM, THEY CAN COME AND GO OVER ANY QUESTIONS. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TODAY IS TO APPROVE THINGS WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. CORRECT THE QUESTIONS OF, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TOBACCO POLICY THEN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TOBACCO. YEAH, TOBACCO, CELL PHONE. CELL PHONE. THE CELL PHONE POLICY. I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO APPROVE WHAT Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY APPROVED. RIGHT. SO IT'S JUST IN THERE AS IS REALLY THE EXCEPTION WOULD BE THE TOBACCO POLICY AND THE WHAT'S THE OTHER? AND I TOOK OUT THE, UM, COUNTY VEHICLE POLICY UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. YES, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND APPROVE. UM, WE CAN AMEND THE TOBACCO POLICY BUT AT LEAST PUT, RAISE IT UP FROM 10 FEET BECAUSE 10 FEET ISN'T EVEN 25 AND THEN COME BACK AND AMEN. CURRENTLY I HAVE IT AND THE ONE Y'ALL HAVE RIGHT NOW IS AT 25 AND WE, IT TIME WE APPROVE THE POLICY PRESENTED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER CLARK, HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE TO GET THIS ALL OUT. YEAH, AND I'M GOING TO ASK THAT, UM, DO Y'ALL WANT IT EFFECTIVE AS OF TODAY? DO Y'ALL WANT TO LIKE, DO YOU WANT THIS? I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. AND THEN WE START, NEED TO START NOTIFYING WELL SHALL SHALL WE DO IT TODAY WITHOUT NOTIFYING ANYBODY KNOW WHERE DON PEOPLE HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED FIRST THEN AND PUT IT INTO EFFECT. I MEAN I CAN LOOK IN EFFECTIVE IF YOU SEND THE MEMOS OUT THIS THERE NOW. WELL, I MOVED THE TO BE EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST. THAT HELP EVERYBODY GET, I CAN GET IT OUT AND PUT IT IN THEIR CHECKS OR SOMETHING. NOT YOUR CHECKS JUST HAVE IT. IT'LL BE IN PLACE BY JULY 1ST. WOULD IT BE ONLINE? YES, IT'S ONLINE NOW AND I'LL PUT THE NEW ONE ON MY JULY 1ST. OKAY, THAT, SORRY, PROBLEM COVER. SO YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION TO GO BACK TO APPROVE THE POLICY JULY 1ST. OKAY, WE HAVE MOTION. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU ALL. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO UH, ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PO REGARDING FIRE CODE INSPECTIONS AND THEIR EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION QUESTION THAT BE ON. YEAH, LARRY, COULD YOU COME ON UP HERE, SIR? LISA PUT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE WE RUN INTO IN THE PAST SEVERAL PLACES OVER IN PRECINCT TOO. ANYWAY, THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, DISCREPANCY AS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THE INSPECTION, RIGHT? WE WANT TO DROP THIS AGREEMENT, UH, THROUGH JOHN TO IDENTIFY WHO IS GOING TO DO IT. I DON'T CARE WHO DOES IT LONG AS SOMEBODY DOES IT CITY, EITHER THE CITY OR THE COUNTY. I'D LIKE TO, ONCE WE GET THIS THING KIND OF FINALIZED OR TWEAK IT TO TAB MORE THAT EVERYBODY TAKE IT THEIR CITY AND SAY GET THEM TO APPROVE IT. YOU KNOW, Y'ALL GONNA DO WHAT WORK ON DO, WHICH IS WHY WE STARTED OVER IN POINT. IT'S A TEST RUN THING BECAUSE MESQUITE I KNOW ON THEIR OWN. SO THIS IS STOPPED MESQUITE COMING INTO THE CITY POINT. NO, NO, THIS WE, WE SIDE ONE WITH THE CITY OF MESQUITE SAID THE CITY OF MESQUITE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO THEIR INSPECTION AND TERRELL DOESN'T WANT TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE AS OF TODAY TO DO THAT. THEY WILL HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE AND SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE WE MAY REVISIT THAT AND CHANGE THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW SOMEBODY NEEDS TO KNOW WHO'S DOING IT. THE ONE, THE ONE THING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT I THINK IS LEFT OUT ON THAT. WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT TODAY BECAUSE IT OUGHT TO BE EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S ON TABLE TWO OF THE COLLIN COUNTY [01:10:01] FIRE AND SAFETY INSPECTION BE IT ALREADY INCLUDED EVERYTHING ON THAT. SO I, JOHN, THAT WOULD BE ALL COMMERCIAL OR PUBLIC BUILDINGS, DAYCARE CENTERS, SCHOOLS, FOSTER HOMES, OTHER 24 HOUR CARE FACILITIES AND THEN THE MULTI-FAMILY AND THE EXCESS GATES THAT WE HAVE ON THERE NOW. SO WE PROBABLY JUST NEED TO MAKE IT INCLUSIVE. TABLE TWO, REMEMBER THIS IS FOR FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY INSPECTION. THIS IS NOT FOR BUILDING CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS BECAUSE LIKE THE LARGER CITIES OBVIOUSLY DID THEIR OWN BUILDING INSPECTIONS. THIS JUST IN THE EJ FOR LIFE SAFETY ADDRESS, FIRE CODE, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING AND ALL THOSE KIND OF ISSUES. JOHN WOOD REFERRING TO IN PARAGRAPH TWO AT THE VERY LAST PARAGRAPH TWO IS IN ANN, SOMETHING WAS LEFT OFF ON THE, UH, THE PARK THAT WENT TO THE CITY I SUPPOSE. SO WE WANT ADD WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON, SIR? ON ON THE FIRST PAGE. FIRST PAGE. OKAY. PARAGRAPH TWO WHERE FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY HAS REQUIRED PERMIT FOR G COMMUTER UNIT PROJECT AND LARRY'S GOT SOME LANGUAGE LIKE PUT IN ON ANN PART TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING. OKAY. BUT I DON'T DO IT WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION. THEN WE'LL TAKE IT BACK TO CITY, GET THEM TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE. OKAY. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, ONCE WE GET KIND OF WORKED OUT, WE'LL HAVE A MODEL THAT EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF GO BY NOW. I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. WE START GOING THE OTHER TRY GET THIS IN AGREEMENT WHERE BASICALLY WHAT RAY IS SAYING, CONFUSION WHERE THE, THERE, WHERE THEY, JOHN HAD BE TABLE TWO PAGE 19 ON FIRE CODE AND YOU AND I CAN TALK ABOUT IT. OKAY. AND THEN WHEN WE PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF PO OVER THERE AND THEY, THEY'VE APPROVED IT THOUGHT IS A GOOD IDEA. THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE CHIEF BOTH WANTED US TO KIND OF EXPAND OUR INSPECTIONS TO NOT ONLY NEW CONSTRUCTION BUT EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT WOULD CREATE QUITE A BIT OF STRESS ON FIRE MODULE DEPARTMENT. HOWEVER, LARRY'S LOOKING AT THAT AND MAYBE WE JUST DO WHAT STEVE CALLS TIER TWO. TIER TWO. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU KNOW THE DAVIS ONE SO THAT IF, IF A BUILDING THAT THEY'VE INSPECTED LAST YEAR HOUSED, UH, ON JUST SAY AUTOMOBILE PARTS, BUT THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN SOLD TO SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO STORE AIRPLANE FUEL IN IT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS NEED TO KNOW THAT. SO IF HE WOULD, IF HE HAD THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER ACTION TO THE COURT TO DO THIS. GONNA BE LOOKING INTO THE, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING THAT, CHECKING OUT THE DANGEROUS FACILITIES AND REINSPECTION REINSPECTION INSPECTION ONCE A YEAR BECAUSE YOU DUNNO WHAT HAD CHANGED OR CAME IN THERE. A PRIME EXAMPLE OVER ON, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT'S CLASSIC OR PROFIT, I GUESS IT WAS TWO OR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO NOW. IT WAS A BARREL INSIDE. ONE OF THE FACILITIES THAT THEY HAD MIXED NUMEROUS CHEMICALS IN WAS A DISPOSAL DRUM HAD MIXED NUMEROUS CHEMICALS IN IT AND THE BARREL WAS FOUND ON THE NEXT STREET OVER ON THE ROOF, THE NEXT STREET OVER THE BUILDING AFTER IT HAD PROPELLED ITSELF STRAIGHT THROUGH THE ROOF OF THE EXISTING FACILITY ACROSS THE STREET, LANDED ON SECOND BUILDING. THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WOULD, IT IS GOING TAKE A LOT OF WORK AND TWEAKING AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO IT, YOU KNOW, AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA BE CHARGING ANYTHING. IS IT JUST GONNA BE A, A COURTESY IF WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITH THE PEOPLE. BUT I TOTALLY AGREE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY WORK TOWARDS. YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU DRIVE AROUND THE COUNTY, YOU SEE MORE AND MORE COMMERCIAL FACILITIES THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED OUT IN THE RURAL AREA OF CITIES PROBABLY FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. SO IT MAKES SENSE. WELL WE, WE CATCH, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH OR SO WE ANOTHER ONE OUT THERE AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE COME IN, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A ONE TIME PROCESS BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE CODE INSPECTION PROCESS PROBABLY WE AMEND AT THE TIME TO MAKE IT AND THEN DECIDE CHARGE THAT SAME FEE EACH YEAR FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS FOR US TO COME BACK OUT AND GO THROUGH. OR HOW YOU GUYS WANNA TRY TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO SUCK IT UP SOME WAY AND WE COULDN'T FOR ALL PROPERTIES. SO THESE PEOPLE HAVE BUSINESSES OUT HERE AND THEY GET OUT INTJ COUNTY, SOME OF THEM STAY INJ. REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD ALL THE BARRELS UP ON ONE S PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE HAD TO, AND THESE PEOPLE DON COME PICK UP. SO THEY TAKE IT OUT, THEY, SO THEN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, IT'S UH, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THE PEOPLE'S BUILDINGS THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T PERTAIN WHAT I MEAN. I'M SORRY, WHAT LARRY AND I TALKED ABOUT DOESN'T PERTAIN WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. I JUST WANTED TO USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY [01:15:01] TO BRING UP THAT WE DO NEED TO EXPAND OUR HORIZONS A LITTLE BIT THAT WE BROUGHT TO US AT THE CITY COUNCIL REPORT. WHAT THE FIRE MARKET OVER THERE, IF Y'ALL COULD DO A LITTLE BIT OF JOB CHECKING WHAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE OF COUNTY IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA RESPOND, UH, BACK ON AS FAR AS THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. CAN WE GO AHEAD AND, UH, ALLOW SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE ATTORNEY? THE WORDING, THE ADDITIONAL WORDING ON PARAGRAPH TWO I BELIEVE, UH, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF, READ THAT PORTION AGAIN IF YOU WOULD. WELL, I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF WHAT IN THERE. WHAT WOULD THE OTHER THINGS? WELL IT IT WOULD BE, I'M SORRY, ON TABLE TWO, PAGE 19 OF THE FIRE CODE, IT WOULD BE, UH, FIRE MARSHALS, FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY INSPECTION FEE SCHEDULE THAT INCLUDES COMMERCIAL OR PUBLIC BUILDINGS, DAYCARE CENTERS, SCHOOLS, FOSTER HOMES, FOSTER GROUPS, HOSPITALS OR NURSING HOMES AND OTHER 24 HOUR CARE FACILITIES FOR WHAT'S ON THERE. THE MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS OR FOUR MORE UNITS OR THE ACCESS GATE AND BUILDING IDS. BUT IT'S EVERYTHING THAT'S ON OUR TABLE ON PAGE 19. WE HAVE WAY I CAN TELL YOU I WOULD APPROVE IT OF EVERYTHING AFTER THE WORD CONCLUDES BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF YOUR LAUNDRY LIST OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES. OKAY. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROVE IF THAT'S THE LANGUAGE HE'S GOING THERE. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, FROM THE COMMISSIONER AND FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL ON ITEM NUMBER NINE IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF REGARDING FIRING FIRE CODE INSPECTIONS IN THEIR ETJ MOVE. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER A SHANE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A FINAL PLAN FOR PHASE TWO B OF THE OAKRIDGE VIEW ACRES AND PRECINCT FOUR. UH, WELCOME MR. WINTERS. YES MA'AM. UH, THE, UH, TODD WINTER'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WHILE AND UH, I REALIZE THAT, THAT WE HAD JUST HIRED AN ENGINEERING FIRM. HIS ENGINEERING HAS NOT BEEN THROUGH OUR FIRM AND DONE BY BAIL IN WEEKS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND UH, IT'S STRICTLY UP TO THE COURT WHETHER SINCE HE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS BEFORE WE HIRED OUR FIRM, UH, DOES OUR FIRM FIRM NEED TO REVIEW THIS BEFORE WE, UH, PASS IT OR, OR CAN WE ACCEPT THE ENGINEERING REPORT FROM ? HE'S DONE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT, UH, IS ON THE LIST FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UH, LADDER TO PLATS, DRAINAGE, MAPS, EVERYTHING ELSE. MR. WINTERS HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND, UH, THAT'S MY QUESTION TO THE COURT. SO ALL THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET, ALL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET EXCEPT THAT, THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING FIRM'S BEEN THROUGH VIN IT KIND OF OCCURRED IN BETWEEN THE TIME WHERE YES MA'AM PRELIMINARY LAB WAS ALREADY APPROVED. YES. UH, THE LAB, WE SHOULDA HAVE A 21 DAY PRIOR, IS THAT CORRECT? HAVE WE HAD 21 DAYS? I, NO, I JUST GOT, IF YOU LOOK ON THAT RECEIPT I SENT, IT'S BEEN PROBABLY A MONTH AGO WHEN WE SUBMITTED IT. OKAY. SO I DROPPED THE FILE, NOT DELIVER AND THAT'S OKAY. I MEAN, WE WE'RE NOT IN, AND THIS IS EFFECTIVELY PHASE FOUR OF THIS PROJECT. WE JUST COMPLETED PHASE THREE, IF YOU REMEMBER OFF ROAD ON LAST FALL. SO WE DID, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO DO 7,500 DAYS AT TIME. NOW WE DID 15, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE SCALE. BUT, UH, THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, PHASE TWO B, WHICH IS BROKEN OUT. PHASE TWO, WE DID IT TWO PHASE INSTEAD OF ONE. UH, IT IS BASICALLY PHASE FOUR OF THIS PROJECT. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, COMING, THIS WAS COMING OFF THE COUNTY ROAD. THIS SECTION IS BETWEEN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO A THAT WE DID PROBABLY [01:20:01] ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO. WHERE IS THE SUB WARSAW? 1 48 RIGHT OFF COUNTY FM 1 48 COUNTY ROAD 40 98. SO IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T HURT YOU THAT MUCH TO LET US KNOW. BONUS THIS IN 21 DAYS. NOT AT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU GUESS. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR DROPPING. WELL I'LL YOU WHAT? WE HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH OF THEM S WE'LL TELL WE'RE NOT IN A BIG AREA AND WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT VERY SIMILAR THIS, THE CITY OF GET APPROVAL ON THE, THEIR FIRST MEETING IN JULY, GO THE SAME TIME. WE PROBABLY WON'T PUT CONSTRUCTION SOMETIME IN JULY. SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS DECIDE I WANT, WELL I HAVE 'EM RIGHT HERE AND I'LL PASS 'EM OUT. 21 DAYS WILL COMMENCE TODAY. THAT'D BE GREAT. DO WE WANT THE NEW, UH, AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO REVIEW THOSE JUST AS A MATTER OF, UH, CONSISTENCY? I WOULD THINK SO. I MEAN, I THINK WE DID WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE'S OF, OF, OF THE SOUTHLAKE SUBDIVISION. I DON'T ANTICIPATE A PROBLEM. UH, BUT THE 21 DAYS CAN START TODAY, SO MM-HMM . OKAY. YOU CAN RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH IT AND WE CAN COME BACK AND CAN YOU GET THOSE TWO DONE? YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT WAY IT'LL, YOU'LL TELL ME WHO THAT IS. I CAN EMAIL. OKAY. I GUESS WE WILL JUST, UH, TABLE THIS UNTIL OUR NEXT TABLE, WHENEVER THAT 21 DAY PERIOD WAS UP A MOTION TO DO SO. THANK TODD. NO PROBLEM TO YOU. CAN ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST IN CALL. YOU BET. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. ITEM NUMBER, UH, 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT AGREEMENT FROM CITY OF TERRELL ON THE COTTONWOOD ROAD AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. KEN, I THINK YOU, UH, HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA. I TOOK THIS UP TO ATTORNEY FOR, THERE'S BEEN SOME CORRESPONDENCE, I'VE HAD SOME CONTACT FROM, UH, INDIVIDUALS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE WORK HAS ALREADY STARTED THAT YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY. AND JOHN, UH, I'VE ASKED YOU TO REVIEW THIS SO WE WILL ALL BE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, REVIEW THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, HICCUPS. AND SO IF YOU WOULD, WOULD YOU GIVE US WHAT YOUR RESEARCH HAS SHOWN? UM, IT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER TALKING TO COMMISSIONER SHANE THAT, UH, THAT THAT HE'S BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL, THAT THEY'RE AWARE THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS. UM, WHAT I THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS WE NEED TO HAVE CONFIRMATION THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THIS BECAUSE, UM, THE WAY THE LAW READS, THE MUNICIPALITY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE GOVERNMENT AND BODY OF THE MUNICIPALITY, COMMISSIONER'S, COURT OF COUNTY, THEY SPEND COUNTY MONEY. AND SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION. NOW, I MAY BE INCORRECT BECAUSE I HAVE ONLY KNOWN ABOUT THIS SINCE FRIDAY. THERE MAY ALREADY BE A CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION. IN FACT, THERE IS THAT PIECE OF IT HAS BEEN TASK BY DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF YOUR, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS DO. OKAY. ALL THE COMMISSIONERS DO. AND AND I JUST SENT THAT OUT THIS MORNING BECAUSE I FOUND OUT ON FRIDAY, RIGHT? AS BUSY WEEKEND, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAD AN IMPART EVENT. YOUR DAUGHTER GOT MARRIED. MY DAUGHTER GOT MARRIED, SO I WAS DISTRACTING. YES, I UNDERSTAND. I WANTED TO FOCUS ON THIS, BUT IT SOMETHING JUMPED IN FRONT. UM, SO, UM, THE, THE THING I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COURT IS, UH, MAKE SURE YOUR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. THE SECOND THING IS THE PROJECT AGREEMENT, THE ONE THAT I HAVE SEEN THAT SIGNED IT REFERENCES, UH, THE ROAD. AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS ROAD, SO IT MAY ONLY BE A BLOCK LONG, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE MORE SPECIFIC. 2000 FEET. WHAT'S THAT? IT SAYS 2000 FEET. IT'S ONLY 2000 FEET. THE ROAD IS ONLY 2000 FEET. RIGHT. OH, OKAY. OKAY. SO THE ENTIRE, SO IT'S LITERALLY THE ENTIRE ROAD, ROAD? NO, IT'S NOT ROAD HOLD UP JUST 2000 FEET OUT THAT ROAD. OKAY. BUT, BUT MY POINT IS, IS THAT I THINK PROJECT DESCRIPTION SHOULD HAVE WHERE IT'S LOCATED SO THAT IF FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S A ONE. SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A MINOR CHANGE AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO DO, UH, TO BE DONE. UH, A THIRD THING IS THAT THERE'S SOME QUESTION ABOUT THIS COUNTY NOT GOING TO [01:25:01] BE USED AND, AND THE COUNTY CAN SPEND THE MONEY UP TO 15,000. AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF RESTRICTIONS ON THAT. AND AS I NOTE MY MEMO, IT'S, UH, THE WORK'S NOT INTERFERE WITH THE COUNTY'S WORK SCHEDULE. COUNTY PAYS ONLY COST WOULD PAY IF IT DID NOT ASSIST THE CITY. AND, UH, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE WORK DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THE COUNTY'S WORK SCHEDULE. THEN THE, BUT THE QUESTION BECOMES IS THE COUNTY PAY ONLY WHAT IT WOULD PAY IF IT DID NOT ASSIST THE CITY? AND I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION WHICH I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO OF IF THERE WAS A LEASE OF EQUIPMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PURPOSE OR IF IT'S BEING USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. AND SO I GUESS I NEED MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. DID Y'ALL A COPY? I DIDN'T GET ONE. OKAY. DID YOU GET YOURS? MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS HOW CAN WE STARTED THAT PROJECT WITHOUT COURT TO CHECK WITH THE CITY OF MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD EVERYTHING DOTTED KNIGHT? HE SAID WE CAN HAVE AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF, AND THAT'S WHERE I LEFT IT AT. WE PROBABLY BOTH THROWN THE BALL. WELL, I DID ASK FOR THIS TO BE DONE. SO THAT'S THE SITUATION THERE. THE, THE COMMISSIONER DID ASK ME SOMETHING ABOUT DOING WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAR AND, AND I RECALL SAYING SOMETHING TO THE FACT THAT IF THEY'RE PAYING US FOR IT, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT. UH, AND, AND SO THIS IS KIND OF THE, THE TWIST IN MY MIND IS IS THAT IF, IF THEY'RE NOT PAYING US FOR IT AND WE DO NEED A PROJECT AGREEMENT, NO, THEY AREN'T PAYING FOR THIS IS GOVERNOR CO THIS, THEY'RE YEAH, THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT. THIS IS GOVERNOR CODE SECTION 7 9 1 0 14. UH, IT'S BEEN HAMMERED INTO MY HEAD EVER SINCE I STEPPED UP ON THIS BENCH. UH, AND IT SAYS THAT IT, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT, THAT THE COMMISSIONER COURT OF ACCOUNTING MUST GIVE SPECIFIC WRITTEN APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT. AND YOU KNOW, I GO TO A LOT OF TROUBLE TO TO, UH, TO DO ALL THAT AND GO THROUGH THE, THE HOOPS AND THE MOTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT TAKES TO DO IT. AND, UH, I WOULD JUST, UH, EXPECT THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES TOO BECAUSE IT'S THE, THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT CODE AND I MEAN, THERE'S NO EXCEPTION. WE DON'T FILE THE GOVERNMENT CODE. WE HAVE NOTHING. WE HAVE NOTHING. SO WE HAVE THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE IN PLACE IS THE PROJECT AGREEMENT AND THE WORK STARTED BEFORE THE PROJECT AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED OFF OR APPROVED BY THE COURT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEN I THINK THE WORK STARTED ON, UH, WHEN WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY, WEDNESDAY THE FIFTH. RIGHT. AND SO, UH, WHENEVER KEN AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT, I TOLD HIM WE FOR SURE NEED TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. UH, BUT, UH, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? AND, UH, UH, IS THIS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW? IS THIS A, AN ACTION THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND TRY TO FIX IT? UH, I MEAN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE ALL OUR TAXPAYERS AND, AND ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS, I THINK FROM TIME TO TIME DO WORK IN CITIES. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER ONES. BUT THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT THIS WORK ACTUALLY STARTED BEFORE WE HAD THE PROJECT AGREEMENT IN PLACE. IS THAT KIND OF SUM IT UP? THAT'S ONE OF THE, I I I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE OTHER ONE IS IF IT'S MORE THAN $15,000 THAT THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. AND I DUNNO THAT IT'S MORE THAN 15. SO HOW DO WE REMEDY, OR HOW DO WE FIX WHAT WE, WHAT WE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? I GUESS? I, I THINK THE FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THAT ANY WORK THAT STARTED NEEDS TO STOP. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE CONFIRMATION CITY COUNCIL HAS IN FACT APPROVED IT AND BY THE APPROPRIATE RESOLUTION, AND THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY HAVE DONE THAT, BUT NOT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THE JUSTICE CITY, UH, ENGINE ENGINE, I MEAN THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE IT. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT THEY MAY HAVE GIVEN HIM THE AUTHORITY OF THE PREVIOUS. OKAY, SO, SO HE, SO HE MAY HAVE, HE MAY HAVE THAT AND SO HE MOVED IT OVER. OKAY. AND HE'S THEIR CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY. SO WE'LL NEED TO GET A COPY IF THE COMMISSION, I MEAN, IF THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THIS, WE'LL NEED TO GET A COPY OF THAT. RIGHT. AND, AND THEN I GET A COPY OF THAT AND THEY WILL NOT, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PAY THE COUNTY BECAUSE WORKS ALREADY STARTED, WORKS ALREADY STARTED. AND THAT IS, THAT'S HIS LAW FOR US TO ACCEPT PAYMENT FROM THE COUNTY. [01:30:01] THAT PROJECT PERMIT BEING IN PLACE. AND WHERE IS THAT? RIGHT? IT'LL BE AT 7 9 1. THE TIME TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NUMBER DCCC. ANDY, THE COUNTY MAY NOT ACCEPT, OR ANOTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT MAY NOT OFFER PAYMENT FOR A PROJECT UNDERTAKEN WITH WITHOUT APPROVAL REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION. OKAY. AND THIS WAS, THIS WAS TALKED TO US BY MR. CHUCK KIMBRO FACT IN ONE . SO IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S KIND OF A ALL, UH, THIS IS KIND OF AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF TRYING TO DO A GOOD DEAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM . WELL, AND, AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, I GUESS JOHN HELPED ME WITH HIS REPORT BACK AND MAKE SURE WE GET OUR TEAMS CROSSING OURS DOTTED, WE BOTH CLUM BALL AND SO SEE IF WE CAN'T CLEAN IT UP, MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE. YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS, JOHN, THAT WE JUST STOP IMMEDIATELY ANY WORK THAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE. WELL, AND RIGHT, BECAUSE THE FIRST, BEFORE WE GET TO THE PAYMENT QUESTION, WE NEED TO HAVE AN AUTHORIZATION QUESTION, AND I THINK WE CAN RESOLVE THE AUTHORIZATION QUESTION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION, MORE SPECIFIC PROJECT AGREEMENT. AND THEN THE PAYMENT QUESTION BECOMES OBVIOUSLY PROBLEMATIC OF ACCEPTING MON THEN. SO EVEN IF THE CITY HAD AGREED TO REIMBURSE, UH, THE COMMISSIONER FOR HIS, UH, EXPENSES, UH, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT BASED ON WHAT ITEM C SAYS HERE. UM, ON 7 9 1 0 1 4 C, THAT'S THE WAY IT APPEARS. I'M GOING TO VISIT WITH CHUCK, I'M GONNA DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON THAT. ANY AG OPINIONS OUT THERE THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE? I I DID NOT FIND CEREMONIES AND PRACTICES OR SOMETHING. I DID NOT, BUT I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE OF COURSE I WANT TO SEE THE CITY GETS EVERY PENS ENTITLED TO, UH, THAT I EXPECT TO GET ROLLING STOCK BACK ON THIS. I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE A POLICY IF A ROLLING STOCK. WELL, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT, THAT COMES UP QUITE OFTEN. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE BUY A VEHICLE, WE EXPECT, I THINK INFORMALLY WE'D EXPECTED ANOTHER VEHICLE TO BE TURNED IN FOR THAT. AND I'M, THERE MAY BE OCCASIONS AND I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I MEAN, BUT THERE MAY BE OCCASIONS WHERE SOMEBODY NEEDS AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE, UH, IN THEIR FLEET AND, UH, I MEAN I CAN SEE THAT HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AS WELL. WE NEED, BUT HOW DO WE, DO YOU HAVE A SAMPLE POLICY OR ANYTHING? WE, WE JUST DISCUSSED THAT TIME? WE, I WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE POLICY. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY DOESN'T, THIS REPLACE HAS THE SHORT IN NO. YEAH, THAT TRUCK A SHORT TEAM, WE'RE NOT, YOU PUT IT OUT SAFE. I MEAN, THEY BOUGHT THIS PICKUP, PAID A PRICE FOR IT, PAID LIKE 25 GRAND FOR A PICKUP THAT WASN'T, THAT WAS A HARD TRUCK UNDER WATER. AND UH, HE'S HAD ALL KINDS OF ELECTRICAL ISSUES. IF IT RAINS, TRUCK, TRUCK, DEALER DRUG, DIFFERENT TRICKS, CRUISE CONTROL DOESN'T WORK. UH, WE JUST GOT AN ISSUE THERE. SAFETY. WHAT DO YOU, HAVE YOU TALKED WITH ANY OTHER COUNTIES WHAT TO DO? WHAT OTHER POLICIES MIGHT BE OUT THERE? I HAVE MY, UH, I, I WOULD COURT MORE OR LESS, UH, PROBABLY, UH, CONNECTING TO THE BUDGET, WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER BUDGET IS THAT TIME. WHAT NEED TO ADD ITEMS TO THE, TO THE POLICE? I THINK WE ALL HAVE POLICY BECAUSE THAT MONEY, ONCE THEY GET IT, IS BOUGHT, I THINK THAT THE POLICY SHOULD BE THAT VEHICLE THAT IT PLACED COMES, YOU KNOW, SOLD, SENT BACK TO THE COUNTY IF THE COUNTY BOUGHT IT. AND PART, WE BUY MOST OF OUR VEHICLES WELL IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE. THAT'S KIND OF SEGREGATED FROM THE REST OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S COMING OUT OUR WHERE SAY THESE OTHER VEHICLES SUPP, OTHER DON'T COME OUT. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? YEAH, BUT IT'S ALL COUNTING, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH, BUT WE BUDGET FOR PURCHASES FOR THE, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS JUST ASK FOR STUFF AND THEN WE, THIS WASN'T BUDGETED TO START WITH. [01:35:01] WELL HE'S GOT, HE'S HE'S BUYING IT OUT HIS BUDGET. YES. WHERE IF WE BUY SEVEN NEW TAHOES, IT'S NOT COMING OUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IT'S COMING OUTTA THE GENERAL CODE. IS THAT NOT RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID ON THIS LAST ROOF. SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT HIS BUDGET OR ANY OTHER, I MEAN WHOEVER WE SUPPLY VEHICLES FOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER DEPARTS. SO IN MY OPINION, IF IT COMES OUT OF THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND, IF HE THINKS HE NEEDS A TRUCK OR HE NEEDS A TRACTOR AND HE NEEDS A GREAT, AS LONG AS HE BUYS THAT OUT HIS BUDGET AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE , IN MY OPINION, HE CAN BUY WHATEVER HE WANTS TO RUN HIS PRECINCT EFFICIENTLY. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT THAT WOULD BE, WE USED TO HAVE THE SHERIFF'S CARS COME BY. THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET THIS TIME USED TO, THERE WAS A LINE ITEM AMENDMENT REPLACEMENT, WHATEVER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. EXACTLY RIGHT. THE EXCEPTION OF THE INSURANCE AND ALL THAT COMES OUT THE GENERAL FOR ANOTHER VEHICLE, VEHICLE TO OUR INSURANCE IMPACT ON SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY ELSE'S BOAT, RIGHT. GOT TWO THAT UP. BOTH. I MEAN THEY SITTING THERE IN THE PARKING LOT. JACK, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD POINT. SO REPLACING TWO TRUCKS WITH ONE REPLACE A TRUCK, THAT'S A PROBLEM. WE'RE GONNA TRY ALONG IN OUR FLEET THERE. NOBODY'S GONNA GIVE US ANYTHING ON THE MARKET IF JACK PUTS THIS THING ON THE MARKET YOU FOR, SO WE DO, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE DO NEED A POLICY. SO, WELL, FROM MY STANDPOINT, JUST WANTED BE SURE. I JUST WANTED TO GET, GET THE RULES HERE BECAUSE I KNOW I'LL BE ASKED BY THE DEPARTMENTS. WELL, AND THAT'S THAT. I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NOW FOR SOME TIME. THAT'S WHAT I WANT DO IT. I I, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY AND IF THAT'S NORMAL PROCEDURE, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT I DO THINK WE NEED A GENERAL OVERALL POLICY FOR THE OTHER ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT DEALING WITH VEHICLES BECAUSE I, I THINK WE'VE ACCUMULATED SOME VEHICLES AND SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN TURNED IN AND WE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER HAD A POLICY. I DON'T THINK, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, DON'T, I DON'T THINK MANY COUNTIES DO HAVE ONE BECAUSE I WAS CALLED LAST WEEK FROM ANOTHER COUNTY FOR A OF OUR OFFICE. I, UNLESS, UNLESS YOU'RE A COUNTY THAT HAS A MANAGER, PROBABLY YOU PUT THIS OUT ON LISTERV TO SEE IF ANYBODY I DO THAT. WHEN WE WERE PURCHASING THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE LAST YEAR, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT AND WHEN WE WERE MAKING THE DECISION TO BUY THOSE CARS, BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY CARS SITTING AROUND HERE AND THERE AND HERE AND THERE AND BEING STRIPPED FOR PARTS AND THIS AND THAT AND THIS AND THAT. THERE WERE SOME OF 'EM STILL ON THE INSURANCE. UH, WE JUST KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT AND, AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING MAKE IT A, A POLICY, YOU KNOW, TWO, LIKE ONE FOR ONE, IF YOU BUY ONE, WE JUST SWAP ONE IN, WHATEVER. BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THAT WAS STRICTLY, I I GUESS WE DIDN'T MAKE IT BROAD ENOUGH AND DIDN'T ESTABLISH A POLICY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE INFORMED, NO, WE DIDN'T NEVER FORMALLY ADOPTED IT, BUT IT WAS JUST DISCUSSED, UH, DURING, DURING THE HEARINGS WHEN WE WERE BUYING THOSE CARS TO DO AWAY WITH THIS, WITH ROB PARTS OFF OF WHAT, BUT I'M FINE. KEEP WELL, AND I, YOU KNOW, HE GOT THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET. I, I DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. I JUST THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET THIS VEHICLE THING ATTORNEY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, UH, BEFORE WE GIVE THE KEYS TO A NEW, THEY GOTTA GIVE US AND IT SOCIAL CARDS OVER ONLY PROBABLY THERE'S FIVE VEHICLES FROM UP AND DOWN TO THREE. WELL SEE WHAT YOU'VE WORKED FLORIDA IN THAT REGARD. AND THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT IT IS INDIRECTLY CERTAINLY DOES. BECAUSE FACT, BECAUSE THOSE VEHICLES, I MEAN INSURANCE, RIGHT? ALL THAT, I MEAN, THAT ADDS UP, YOU KNOW, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. SO, ALRIGHT, I GOT A QUESTION THAT WHY DO WE EVER CONVENE TO BRING THIS TO COURT AFTER IT'S UNDER 25,000? UH, HAVE WE BOUGHT ANOTHER PICKUP THIS YEAR OR ANTICIPATE BY TOMORROW? UH, RAY, I'M NOT SURE. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS GONNA BE, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PRICE ON A FOUR DOOR PICKUP. 23,000. I I THINK WE, WE [01:40:01] PICK, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT, THAT THAT LAST CHECK I COULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD, WHEN I SAW TRI ON, I THOUGHT WELL THAT'S UNDER THE $25, UH, REQUIREMENT ANYWAY. IT, THE THING FOR, YOU KNOW, QUESTION, I'D LIKE TO THEAND. WELL WOULD THAT WOULD I GUESS KIND OF WHAT I'M ASKING, WOULD THIS FALL INTO LIKE A CATEGORY LIKE A TAHOES MAKE IT FALL INTO THIS? WOULD A PICKUP, WOULD THE TAHOES OR IS A VEHICLE A VEHICLE LONG? IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL. I WOULD SAY SO, BUT IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO ANOTHER POINT TOO WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC, IS, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR QUOTE, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S 400 FEE FOR BUYBOARD AND UH, WE WAIT, BUY ANOTHER PICK TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, ANOTHER FOUR AND SO AND SO YOU DO IT ONE TIME, ONE POINT, RIGHT? HAD MANY BACK. IT'S ONE THING PER FIELD. SO LITTLE TALKING AMONG EVERYBODY WOULD HELP IN THAT. THAT'S ALWAYS, YOU NEVER KNOW. THAT'S HOW HE SAVE THE MONEY DURING BUDGET TIME. JUDGE ALL AT ONE TIME. THEY'RE ALL OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM NUMBER 12 THEN? MOTION. MR MAKES A MOTION. MR. CLARK. SECOND THE MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE WILL KIND OF, FROM WHAT YOU CAN FIND OUT ON, MAYBE WE WORK THROUGH SOME KIND OF POLICY THAT WILL ENSURE ALL DONE. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADVERTISING BIDS FOR THE COUNTY DEPOSITORY. UH, GENTLEMEN, I THINK IT'S TIME TO TOID THAT. UH, I'LL HAVE THE DATE THIS TIME. I MEET YOU JOHNNY. FIND OUT HOW SOON. BE READY. PUT OUT HIS SPECS ON THAT. IT'S TIME TO REVISIT THAT. AS SOON AS I GET THAT WE'LL PUT IT OUT. I'LL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THAT. OKAY, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE ADVERTISING BIDS. SECOND FOR THE COUNTY DEPOSITORY. UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 1314 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER LONG ITEM TRANSFER. I BELIEVE THESE WERE EMAILED TO Y'ALL LAST WEEK. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR UH, I DIDN'T BRING MINE WITH ME. THERE WAS, UH, WHEN I WAS LOOKING EARLIER, WHERE DID YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION? KW DID YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS I SENT YOU THE OTHER DAY? I KNOW THEY WERE ABOUT SOME INVOICE. OH, THE PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS OVER IN PRECINCT THREE SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS, HOW CAN WE HAVE A LINE, HOW CAN WE HAVE AN EXPENDITURE OUTTA THAT? BECAUSE WE SET ONE UP FOR THE, UM, GETTING THE HIGHWAY 4 29 LOCATION SET UP THE DIFFERENT EXPENDITURES, BUT THAT WAS IMPROVING THE LAND TO GET IT READY TO DO BUSINESS ON SHOULDN'T THAT COME OUT COUNTY IMPROVEMENTS INSTEAD OF RIDGE THING? YEAH, WE WE DON'T HAVE IT IN THE COUNTY, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT OUTTA ROAD BRIDGE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S FINE WITH US. BUT YOU DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS. HOW DO WE SPEND MONEY WITHOUT A LINE ITEM? WE CREATED THAT LINE ITEM CREATED. THE OTHER ONE I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WAS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, UH, DID SHE GIVE ALL THE SECRETARY RAISE? IS THAT WHAT THAT'S NO SIR. THAT'S NOT A RAISE. THOSE WERE, UH, PROMOTIONS FOR THEIR PARALEGAL CERTIFICATES. OH, OKAY. I THINK SEVERAL PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE THERE WERE CERTIFIED THAT PARALEGALS AND SORT OF RAISE THEM PROMOTION TO THAT IT HAD BEEN, UH, STARTED INITIATED BY THE PRIOR DA, UM, MR. MCCLEAN AND SHE HAS FOLLOWED THROUGH WHEN THEY ON THIS, UH, SUPPLIES FOR ROAD SIGNS. I DON'T RECALL SEEING A LINE FOR THAT EITHER. IS THAT ALSO ESTABLISHED? WHICH, WHICH IN OTHER WORDS [01:45:01] PRECINCT TWO N THREE AND I'M JUST WONDERING, AM I GONNA GET HIT FOR ONE OF THOSE IF YOU ORDER SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH JUST YOUR PRECINCT CITY ROAD SIGN MATERIAL? YES SIR. YOU WILL. UH, WE CLEANED UP AT 26, 20 7,000 LINE ITEM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST USED FOR ROAD SIGNS. UM, ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED LIKE BARRICADES OR OTHER SIGNS LIKE ON EQUIPMENT, THOSE NEED TO COME OUTTA YOUR BUDGET, NOT THAT MAIN BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ESTABLISHING THOSE. ANOTHER ONE THAT'S GONNA BE BROUGHT TO YOU WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR LEASE PAYMENTS PRINCIPLE ITEM AND AN INTEREST LINE ITEM. IT WON'T BE LUCK TOGETHER. I'M MAKING THE CORRECTIONS NOW FOR THAT, WHICH YOU'LL HAVE THE LINE IN THERE. I JUST GOTTA TAKE IT FROM ONE LINE ITEM PUT INTO ANOTHER. GUESS THAT ONE QUESTION. I I HAD TO, YOU KNOW, I DID MAKE A MISTAKE IN SEND A BILL IN FOR SIGNED MATERIAL THAT SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN PAID OUT. THE SIGNED BUDGET THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT TO ME, WHICH IS WHAT THAT WAS. BUT THE IDEA OF PRETTY A BUDGET LINE ITEM TO PAY THAT I HAVE DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY DISAGREED WITH YOU ON THAT. I'D LIKE TO PAY FOR MINE OUTTA SUPPLIES AND NOT CREATE NEW SIGN, NOT CREATE A NEW LINE ITEM. AT LEAST THE PRECINCT TOO. WELL THE REASON THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IS BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE TAKEN OUT 20 AND IT'S GONNA BE DIVIDED 20, THE FOUR PRECINCTS. IT'S NOT GONNA BE CHARGED TO TO THE FUND 20 ANYMORE. IT'S GONNA BE CHARGED TO YOU PERSONALLY. BUDGET. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'D BE BUT CREATING A NEW MINE ITEM. FIRSTLY, IT'S NOTED, I GOT THE EMAIL AND THE PHONE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER? UH, DID YOU GET COPIES OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS ALSO? THAT WAS TO PUT YOUR, UM, CELL EQUIPMENT INTO WHATEVER LINE ITEMS Y'ALL HAD PREFER OR ASK FOR. OKAY. UM, BUT I'M SURE WE'LL DO, YEAH. UH, THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS, UH, FOR THE JU JUSTICE COURT BUILDING SECURITY FOR THE, UH, FOUR JPS. UH, WE ONLY BUDGETED A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. WE DIDN'T BUDGET ALL OF IT TO DO ANY SECURITY AND THE JUDGE HAS ASKED ME TO, TO MOVE SOME ADDITIONAL FROM THE BEGINNING BUILDING, BEGINNING FUND BALANCE THAT I HAD IN TO BE USED SO WE COULD GET SOME SECURITY ISSUES AND THINGS TAKEN CARE OF AT THE DIFFERENT PRECINCT. WE HAVE LIKE 43,000, RIGHT? WE MAY, WE WERE ASKING TO MOVE 40,000 FROM THAT BEGINNING FUND BALANCE TO YOU SO HE CAN GET SOME OF THESE OTHER, UH, COURTHOUSES AND OFFICES SECURE THERE AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR. SO COURTHOUSES. SO THAT, AND THAT'S COUNTY FOR BY PRECINCT, IS THAT? YEAH. RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE WE MOVED DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH MONEY PAID INTO IT, THAT'S WHERE WE MOVED. WE CONSTRUCTED THE, UH, RESTROOMS THAT WERE FOR PUBLIC INSTEAD OF THEM GOING BEHIND HOUSE CLOSED DOORS WHEN YOU'RE HAVING COURT SOME FOR THINGS LIKE THAT FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. WAS THIS, UH, A REQUEST FROM THE JP OVER THERE ABOUT, UH, SOME MORE SECURITY STUFF THAT KIND OF INITIATED THIS OR, UH, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN QUESTIONED ABOUT IT. NO, THIS HAS, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE AND UH, THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AT KEMP, UH, GETTING SOME DOORS SECURED WHERE AND AND TERL TO UH, PROVIDE SOME SECURITY FOR THEM AND CAMERAS AND LOCKS AND THINGS THAT THEY CAN USE TO SECURE REQUEST SECURE THEIR FACILITIES. OH, I'M, THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT ALREADY BEEN REQUESTED OR NOT. NO, IT JUST, UH, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, AFTER WHILE GONE ON HERE WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL CAMERAS AND DOORS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT MONEY PURPOSE, I THINK A GOOD USE OF THAT, OF THOSE FUNDS. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE AUDITOR? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER. MR. MANNING. THAT MOTION. SECOND. MR. SHANE. UH, ROSA. SECOND MOTION. ANYWAY, ALL IN ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE A. THOSE OPPOSED. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS ALWAYS MY FAVORITE ONE. THE CONSIDER CLAIM FOR PAYMENT. AND BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THAT COMMISSIONER, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE BEEN MEETING AND [01:50:01] UH, THIS EMAIL THING IS, THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING A LITTLE VERY HELPFUL. BETTER WORKING WELL. SO IT MAY NOT BE THAT DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT THAT MIGHT FIND THAT WE MAY NOT EVEN NEED IPAD. YOU. THAT'S IT IS SO IT'S GREAT TO HAVE AN EMAIL TO US. WHERE YOU GOT, I SPENT AN HOUR FRIDAY AND 30 MINUTES SATURDAY EVENING AND HOUR LAST NIGHT. SHOOT. I JUST, I'M ABOUT READY TO SIGN OFF ON THREE QUESTIONS. IT WORKS, WORKED WELL FOR ME. I I LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE AHEAD OF, UH, THE SOONER WE CAN GET 'EM THE BETTER IT'S FOR US. NO, I, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENTS COOPERATE WITH US AND GET 'EM IN SO WE CAN SEND IT TO YOU. UH, THEY CAN WAIT A WEEK. THEY GET THERE LITTLE FASTER. YEAH. UH, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF BILLS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVED IS UH, 659,000 939 26. THERE IS ONE REGISTER THAT WAS NOT SUBMITTED TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S TO DO WITH TRAVEL AND UH, TRAINING AND UH, THE GAS CAR AND U PS ANNOUNCED $860 44 CENTS. WE HAD TO DO SOME QUICK CHECKS. RIGHT. SO WE, THAT'S ONLY ONE YOU SHOULD HAVE TO REVIEW, DO YOU? OKAY, I'LL BEEN HERE AT NINE 30, SO I GET YOUR HONOR. ONE ONE 60,008. TERRIBLE. MAKE A PERSONAL AND I'M BACK. I CAN'T TELL YOU WANNA VOTE? SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO. OKAY, THAT'S IN MAG. ALRIGHT. THERE'S ALSO, UH, 16 DEPARTMENT 1648, UH, YOU 1648. SAME THING. PONTIAC ONE THEY CALL THAT WAS RECYCLING. OH, THAT'S, YOU UNDERSTAND IT WAS THREE, THAT WAS FOUR TICKETS [01:55:01] FOR PRECINCT? UH, TWO AND TWO PRECINCT. TWO PRECINCT TWO. SORRY. GET MY PAPERWORK. 35 68. IT'S NOT JUST EVERY TIME THE, SO WE COULD PUT, JUST FINISHED THE LETTUCE. THE LETTUCE 40 25 SPRINKLE AND THEN I CAME UP WITH MATTER DISTRACTED EACH HAD THE, ONE OF THE FOUR TUBES AND THEN I HAD A TIMER CAME ON FOR 30 MINUTES AND IT WAS OFF WET. THE SEEDS. AND THEN ONCE THEY POPPED UP, I MEAN, UM, [02:00:03] AFTER ONE TOMATOES BECAUSE WE HAD THREE CO-OP YEAR. I YES, I REMEMBER OVER THERE. YES. THAT'S GOT THAT GRANT 1 0 1 76, LET PULL IT. YEAH. YOU KNOW IT'S HUNDRED THOUSAND. YES. WE INCLUDED THAT IN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE. OKAY. YEAH. WE INCREASED THE REVENUE AND INCREASED EXPENDITURE SIDE COVER THAT JUDGE SHE SAID. SHE SAID THAT'S PROFESSIONAL HOUSTON. IS THAT HOUSTON WENT INTO THE GENERAL? YES SIR. SHE TRIED THREE TIMES. SHE TRIED HERE. YEAH. ONLY THING DO IS REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT DEER. [02:05:52] YOU THINK YOUR BIGGEST WHEN HE GETS HOME THEN, RIGHT? YEAH. GOOD. YEAH, I TOOK THE LID. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA PUT IT ON THERE, BUT I TOOK THE LID AND LEFT. I SANDED IT ALL PAINTED. DIDN'T ONE OF 'EM DIDN'T NEED ANYTHING. THE HONDA JUST NEEDED IT. MANUAL CHECKS. HANDWRITTEN CHECKS. THAT'S RIGHT. [02:10:36] LEMME CHECK HIS CULVERT LINE OUTLINE AND HIS REIMBURSEMENT FOR BOTH MATERIALS. OKAY. YEAH, BUDGET INCREASES. IS THERE ANY WAY THIS COULD BE DIFFERENT? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY AT ANY TIME? VERIFICATION OF WHAT WE'RE SIGNING OFF? RIGHT HERE IS, IS WHAT WE GOT ON EMAIL LAST THURSDAY, FRIDAY WE PRINT THAT IS AFTER WE THE INVOICES AND ONCE WE ACCRUE THE INVOICES, WE CAN'T CHANGE THOSE INVOICES AT ALL. SO CHANGE EXACTLY THE WE GOT BE, IT SHOULD BE LIKE THAT. IF WOULDN'T THE ONLY, I GUESS AFTER MY QUESTION, THE SEVENTH WAY DOWN THIS, WE WOULD TO DO THIS NUMBER RIGHT HERE FROM COMPUTER. THIS NUMBER, WHAT COULD BE DONE? CHECK DO THAT. THREE FOUR. ONLY THING IS, IT'S NOT THE SAME FOR THESE MANUAL CHECKS OR THE QUICK CHECKS. NOW THOSE COULD CHANGE AND THAT'S WHY IN THE, I'M ONLY GONNA BE SENDING THE EMERGENCY [02:15:01] CHECKS. THE REASON BEING ALL SEPARATE. THE CHECKBOOK PRECINCT, THEY HAVE TO. ALRIGHT, IS THAT ALL THE BILL A MOTION? YOU MAN. MOTION. MOTION AUR. SECONDS IN FAVOR SAY AYE. YOU'LL BE GETTING Y'ALL OUT SOMETIME. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.