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YOU DID HARD TIME WHEN HE GETS IN HERE A LITTLE BIT.
BUT, UH, THANK ALL OF YOU FOR COMING.
IF YOU'VE NOT, UH, FILLED OUT, IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COURT, AND IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, FILL OUT THE, UH, UH, REQUEST TO SPEAK AS THE SHERIFF HAS GO THERE AND, UH, UH, WE'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
JUST, UH, JUST IN A MINUTE, UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR INVOCATION HERE.
AND, UH, MR. SHANE IS GOING GIVE THE INVOCATION, THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE, THE FLAG AND FLAG YOU JOIN.
PRAY WITH ME OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR AMEN BLESSING.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE RE THAT YOU SENT LAST NIGHT.
YOU JUST ASK YOU TO BLESS US FOR MORE.
WE ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR COURT TODAY AS WE DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS.
WE ASK YOU TO BUILD OUR SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ALSO, WE BLESS THEM, BLESS THEIR FAMILIES, THESE THINGS WE YOUR SON'S NAME, AMEN.
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REBUT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS JUSTICE TRIAL, HONOR, FLAG, ALLEGIANCE.
AND, UH, NEXT ITEM IS TO HEAR REMARKS FROM VISITORS.
AND WE DO HAVE, UH, ONE PERSON HERE, JIM THOMPSON KAUFMAN, UH, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON, UH, THE CITIZENS FACILITY, UH, COMMITTEE REPORT.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP TO THE FRONT HERE WHERE THE MICROPHONE IS AND, UH, WE ADDRESSING THE COURT, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND, UH, AGAIN, APPRECIATE THE CONCERN YOU PROVIDED.
UH, IF WE WENT THROUGH THE FACILITY STATE, THANK YOU, JUDGE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, I'M HERE JUST, UH, BECAUSE I WANT TO RESPOND TO WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER ABOUT THE LAST MEETING AND TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIES THAT THE COMMITTEE REPORT, UH, DIDN'T HAVE.
AND WE, UH, PURPOSELY DID NOT TRY TO PRIORITIZE ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WE IDENTIFIED AS SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM, UH, NEEDS.
IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT THE NUMBER ONE ITEM ON THE LIST WAS TO RELOCATE THE EXISTING FOUR PORTS TO A NEW FACILITY.
THAT WAS WHAT TOOK UP THE MAJORITY OF OUR DISCUSSIONS.
UH, IN THE END WHEN WE HAD OUR FINAL MEETING TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, AS THE NEEDS FOR THE FACILITIES, AND WE PURPOSELY DID NOT TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT OR WHERE TO DO IT, WE JUST SAID, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED.
UH, AND TO EMPHASIZE THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.
WE, I HAVE MULTIPLE LETTERS FROM THE JUDGES AND, UH, ALSO THE JUDGES WHO'S NOW THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TALKING ABOUT THE INEFFICIENCY, UH, THE INSECURITY, THE OVERCROWDED NESS OF THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE AND THE DYSFUNCTIONAL, UH, STATUS OF IT.
AND SOME OF 'EM ARE THREE PAGES LONG ABOUT WHY IT DOESN'T WORK AND WHY IT CANNOT BE FIXED TO WORK.
AND I WON'T READ ALL OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR FILES, BUT IT, BUT IT IS TOTALLY COMPLETE.
AND, AND THEY ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT, THAT THE COURTHOUSE DOESN'T WORK AND IT'S GOTTA BE, AND IT CAN'T BE FIXED.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T PRIORITIZE ITEMS, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN MY OPINION AND STILL IS.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD PROVIDE SEATING FOR PROCEED, UH, FOR PRECINCT FOUR AND THREE SUB COURTHOUSE OR NEW FLOORING AND TARS.
YOU CAN'T PUT THAT AHEAD OF A DYSFUNCTIONAL COURTHOUSE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP, THAT, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE WOULD AGREE WITH THAT IN MY OPINION.
AND YOU CAN PULL 'EM TO FIND THAT OUT IF YOU WISH.
BUT, UH, WE DIDN'T FEEL QUALIFIED TO TELL YOU YOU NEED TO BUILD A NEW, UH, COURT FACILITY NEXT TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER.
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WE FELT LIKE YOU NEEDED TO HIRE PROFESSIONALS TO DETERMINE, TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE TO EXISTING, UH, STRUCTURES AROUND THE SQUARE, AND THEN THEY DECIDE THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO, TO MAKE IT WORK.WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE MAYBE GET THEIR REPORT, BUT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE ON THE 23 ITEMS, THERE'S 24 OF 'EM THAT WE SAID WERE SHORT TERM NEEDS IS THE COURTHOUSE.
AND LIKE SOMEONE HAS SAID BEFORE, IT MAY NOT BE NUMBER ONE, BUT IT BEATS OUT WHATEVER'S NUMBER TWO.
WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON INTO THE, UH, NEXT ITEM, UH, AFTER I DON'T HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO, TO GIVE YOU OR ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE.
THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, WHICH WOULD CONSIST OF APPROVING OR ACCEPTING THE MINUTES OF, UH, JULY 1ST AND ALSO THE MINUTES OF JULY 5TH, 2013.
AND THEN TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TAX RESALE OF, UH, REFERENCE NUMBER N 3 35 A SOUP NUMBER 7 9 9 3 4 DASH 86 TRACK ONE, UH, SOUP DESCRIBED AS SEVEN ACRES, MORE OR LESS SURVEY.
AND THIS IS, UH, NEAR THE, UH, COMMUNITY OF FROG IN, UH, PRECINCT THREE.
UH, AND THOSE ARE THE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON, UH, ANY OF THOSE? UH, DID WE NOT GET A BILL PROPERTY THERE TO, UH, UH, I'D ASK MS. UH, THE TAX TO COME FORWARD IF YOU WOULD.
AND YOU, UH, GAVE ME A COPY HERE OF A, UH, OR SOME INFORMATION TANYA THAT YOU GOT FROM, UH,
THEY HAVE OFFICIALLY TOLD US THAT THEY THINK THE BID IS TOO LOW AND THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT BID.
SO ONE ENTITY HAS ALREADY SAID NO, AND IF ONE OF THE ENTITIES INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE SALE SAYS NO, THEN WE CAN'T GO FORWARD.
OKAY? SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO ADVERTISE IT AGAIN OR TO, UH, OR TELL THE PARTY, ADMIT THE BID OR, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER CITED ON THAT BID THAT THAT BID IS UNACCEPTABLE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WILL, SOMETHING THAT BETWEEN THE ATTORNEY LINEER AND OUR STAFF WILL TAKE CARE OF.
WELL IT IS SEVEN ACRES AND SO, YOU KNOW, SEVEN ACRES IS WHERE IT IS, IS WORTH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE PERSON BID.
SO, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION THEN TO ACCEPT ITEMS A AND B AND THEN REJECT ITEM C? SO, ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, I DON'T HAVE MINUTES, WOULD YOU, THE MINUTES WE HAVE IN PACKET JUNE 5TH, I, I SEND THEM TO ANGIE AND ANDY FOR THEN, WELL, LET'S SEE, JUNE OR JULY.
SO LET'S, RIGHT, UH, WHY DON'T WE ALSO NOT ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF, UH, JUNE THE FIFTH AND WE'LL JUST, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO ONE OF THE THREE, ADAM, WE'LL ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF JULY THE FIRST, IF THAT'S OKAY.
HAVE GO WITH YOUR MOTION, RIGHT JIMMY? IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE, YOU STILL MY OPINION? NO, SIR, NOT THIS.
LARRY, IF YOU'D COME FORWARD TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REVIEW OF DROUGHT INDEX AND POSSIBLY IMPLEMENTING A BURN VAN BASED UPON THE, UH, INDEX.
UH, JUST TO BRING UP SOMETHING REAL, RESPOND TO IT ON FIREWORKS.
THIS, I JUST WANNA TELL YOU THAT WE, IN MY OPINION, WE HAD MORE FIREWORKS SOLD AND SHOT THAN WE HAVE EVER HAD BEFORE IN THIS COUNTY.
I'VE SEEN FIREWORKS STANDS OVER ENVY
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OF PRODUCT, NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.I'VE SEEN THE MAIN OF FIREWORKS THAT SOLD OUT OF CERTAIN PRODUCTS THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE AND I WOULD BARELY STAND ON A HILL OVER ON COUNTY ROAD 2 61 THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND, AND YOU COULD NOT PUT YOUR FINGERS UP IN THE AIR THAT YOU WERE NOT COVERING UP SOMEONE SHOOTING FIREWORKS.
WE HAD ABOUT, WE HAD AT LEAST 10 GRASS FIRES GOING AT ONE TIME.
PROBABLY HAD DOZENS AND DOZENS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
CONDITIONS WERE ABSOLUTELY GREAT.
FORTUNATELY FOR US, NOTHING EVER EXCEEDED A VERY SMALL AREA.
NO PHYSICAL DAMAGE TO ANYTHING EXCEPT JUST SOME GRASS.
A LOT OF 'EM WOULD GET PUT OUT BY THE PEOPLE THAT GREEN Y TODAY BUT BUSIEST SEASON I HAVE EVER SEEN THE DROUGHT INDEX AS OF YESTERDAY.
I'M SORRY, I WENT TO A FIRE THIS MORNING, HAD REVIEW IT, BUT IT WAS ALREADY 5 75.
BUT BASED ON A COMMISSIONER ACCORD, DO YOU MIND FINDING THAT THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES PREVENTED ALL ARE BEING INCORPORATED HERE, A SAFETY HAZARD AND COULD BE EXACERBATED OR BURNING, PLACE IT ON THERE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE 5 75 DROUGHT INDEX LEVEL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO AT THIS TIME TO GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND THAT YOU PLEASE BRING THAT UP FOR BOTH AND LET'S PUT BURN BAND ON AND WE'LL START OUT FOR 60 DAYS AND THEN WE CAN, IF GOD GIVES US LOTS OF RAIN DOWN THE ROAD, WE'LL COME AHEAD AND 60 OR TODAY DATE.
Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS? UM, SHOULD WE NOT REVIEW THIS, UH, EVERY 30 DAYS LATER? IF, IF, IF YOU THINK SO, TOM, IT'S FINE.
BECAUSE WE CAN EASILY DO THAT IF WE SHOULD HAVE BE BLESSED YES, AND, AND WHATEVER, TALK ABOUT SOME MAYBE NEXT WEEK THAT GET US OUTTA IT, BUT I, I'LL AGREE WITH YOU.
LET'S JUST PUT IT OFF 30 DAYS AND THAT'S WHAT I REQUEST, IF THAT'S OKAY.
GUESS I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE INSTALL A VAN.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MAY 2ND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, ONE MORE ADDITION TO THAT IS, I'M NOT SURE JIMMY KNOWS IT'S HIS FIRST TIME AROUND.
I KNOW THE REST OF YOU KNOW THAT, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SIGNS THAT, THAT YOU PUT UP FOR US THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ON STATE PROPERTY.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU IF THIS TIME TO HAVE YOUR CREWS GO AROUND AND DROP THOSE SIGNS DOWN AND PUT 'EM IN PLACE.
AND I HAVE A, THE COLOR SHEET THAT YOU SEE IS GONNA BE A MASTER LIST.
I'LL GIVE EACH ONE OF YOU A MASTER LIST BUT ALSO HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY PRECINCT OF WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE FOR YOU.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU EACH OF THOSE Y'ALLS CONVENIENCE ON YOUR CREW IF YOU COULD.
ARE THESE THE SIGNS THAT ARE ON THE HIGHWAY SIGN? YES SIR.
PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE TODAY TOO.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO REVIEW CONSIDER ACCEPTANCE OR TRANSFER OF SKIDSTEER LOADER FROM THE CAMAN COUNTY SHERIFF TO THE COUNTY, BE USED BY THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS IN THEIR PRECINCTS WITH ALL COSTS AND MAINTENANCE AND PREPARED TO BE SHARED EQUALLY BY ALL FOUR COMMISSIONERS THROUGH THEIR ROAD BRIDGE BUDGETS.
UH, THAT'S THE WORDING THAT JOHN LONG, UH, SUGGESTED.
WE HAVE, UH, SHERIFF, THIS I BELIEVE WAS A, UH, C SKID STEERER LOADER THAT YES, IT WAS UNDER CHAPTER 59, WHICH IS CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.
AND UH, THAT, THAT'S HOW WE GOT IT.
SEE, IT'S NOT LIKE THE TRAILER WHERE THAT'S, UH, FOR IT BY THE JT.
SO WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE, LITTLE MORE, UH, I THINK IN DEPTH ON THIS OF THAT ACCOUNT TO THAT PROPERTY, UH, TO THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL ONCE A YEAR.
AND THEN THAT'S WE, BUT WE CAN LEAVE IT TRANSFER TO YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THIS WAS A, AN IDEA THAT PROBABLY IT'S A GOOD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS? I WAS GONNA JUST SAY THAT, UH, THE SHERIFFS HAD ALREADY GIVEN PRECINCT FOUR LOADER SEVERAL YEARS AGO, SKI LOADER.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY USE FOR IT.
SO, UH, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT KEEP IT UP HERE OR KEEP IT AROUND WHEREVER THEY NEED IT.
BUT, UH, WE DON'T, VERY SELDOM WE USE SKID LOADER.
SO Y'ALL HAVE YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE.
YEAH, IT FOUR, THE TIRES ARE ABOUT 1,004 CHEAP TIRES, ABOUT 1700 EXPENSIVE TIRES AND THE CUTTING EDGE WOULD
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BE PROBABLY CUTTING.SO IT NEEDS SOME, IT NEEDS SOME ATTENTION, BUT IT A USABLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
I THINK YOU USED IT LAST WEEK.
WE YES, WE USED IT YESTERDAY AND CUT SOME SHOULDERS ON THE ROAD.
ALRIGHT, SO I, I'VE GOT, I GOT LOT OF TIME.
I'VE GOT ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY STILL IN THE WARNING BUT OUT RIGHT.
BUT I DON'T MIND PAYING AND TO SHOW GOOD FAITH EFFORT AND TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER.
I DON'T MIND PAYING MY PERCENTAGE OF THE MAINTENANCE OWNER IN CASE WE HAVE OURS IS IN THE SHOP.
WERE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT.
SHERIFF, THANK YOU FOR, UH, STEPPING UP ON THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GETS IT OUTTA MY WAY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MOTION.
MAY UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA MAKES THAT MOTION ABOUT SECOND.
ANY OF DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? DID, DID COMMISSIONER MANNING WANTED TO READ THAT.
THAT'S FOR USE FOR, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS IN PRECINCT ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
THE EXPENSES SHOULD BE BY THE THREE COMMISSIONERS.
DID YOU WANNA REMOVE FORWARD NOW JUST, JUST GO AHEAD AND OKAY.
THROW OUR HAT IN THE RING TOO.
WE ALL WORKING TOGETHER ON THE THING ANYWAY, SO, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW Y'ALL.
I DON'T, THE ONLY THING I'D MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT IS BUYING THE BETTER TIRES MACHINE.
THE RADIAL TIRES LAST A LOT LONGER AND IT'S A LOT BETTER PERFORMANCE AT SOME POINT I'D LIKE TO BUY SOME ATTACHMENTS, YOU KNOW, GRAPPLE ABOVE PALLET PORTS AND WE CAN, I CAN BUY THEM FROM MY BUDGET.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BENEFIT MY PRECINCT AND, AND KEN THE MOST SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ONE.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL BUY ATTACHMENTS OUT OUR BUDGET.
WE'LL HAVE THEM FOR THE USE OF THE OTHER FOUR, TWO PRECINCTS THAT ARE ALREADY, IF YOU NEED THE ATTACHMENTS, IT'LL ALSO HELPED THE COUNTY WITH THE JUDGE HAVE ACCESS TO IT TO USE WITH THE, WITH THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY REALLY OUT THE JUDGE DIDN'T REALLY WANNA OPERATE IT BE THING.
YEAH, IT CAME HANDY OVER HERE FOR SURE.
IT'S NOT LIKE ONE PERSON'S GONNA HAVE IT ALL TAP.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A FORMAL INTRODUCTION OF THE TRASH DISPOSAL KIOSK CONCEPT FROM TRASH HUB AND CONSIDER GOING FORWARD WITH FORMING A PARTNERSHIP WITH TRASH HUB IN COLTON COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE.
AND, UH, KEN ASKED THAT THIS BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM THE COMPANY THIS MORNING.
SO KEN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE HIM AND, UH, HAVE, HAVE HIM COME UP AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRASH HUB.
WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT THE OTHER DAY AND APPRECIATE YOU, UH, YOU GUYS COMING BACK.
BOTH OF US ARE WITH TRASH SHOP HERE IN IN DALLAS AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TALK TO YOU AGAIN AND WE'VE MET WITH EVERYBODY SO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE THIS DESIGN CONCEPT FOR A, UH, ENCLOSED, CONTAINED CONTROLLED ACCESS, UM, FACILITY TO, UM, PROVIDE A MORE CONVENIENT, UM, ACCESSIBLE TRASH DISPOSAL OPTION FOR CITIZENS.
SO WE WE'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.
I THINK THAT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO, FIRST OF ALL, OF COURSE, ADAM ATTORNEY QUESTIONS IF YOU ALLALL HAVE, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER MANNING AND I HAD A NUMBER OF, YOU HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE GOOD BY THEN.
AND JUST SO YOU ALL CLEAR, WE'RE WE'RE QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH THE KINDS OF CHALLENGES THAT YOU THREW AT US.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THE, THE TOUGH PARTS ARE THE PARTS THAT WE GOT SOLVED TO MAKE THIS WORK.
SO, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE US WITH THE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW, BE THE ISSUES YOU SEE WHAT WE NEED FROM OUR STANDPOINT TO BE ABLE TO REALLY ANALYZE THIS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY GO AND WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO CHARGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS WE'D LIKE, AND I'VE MENTIONED TO ALL OF YOU, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN A PROCESS OF COLLECTING SOME DATA.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TRASH IS GENERATED, WHAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BUDGET YOUR GUYS ARE, UM, INCURRING RIGHT NOW FOR YOUR TRASH AT DISPOSAL VOLUME, WHERE IT'S GOING.
UM, AND IT WILL HELP US ENORMOUSLY UNDERSTANDING THE VOLUMES AND THE NEEDS AND HOW TO RESPOND TO, UM, THE SITUATION HERE IN, IN KAUFMAN TO HAVE THAT
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DATA.SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS, AT THIS POINT, REQUEST THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION OR WHATEVER IT IS WE REQUIRE FROM YOU GUYS TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, UM, FINANCIAL FOLKS OR THE CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTIES TO START COLLECTING THAT DATA SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL TO START BUILDING ONE OF THESE THINGS.
SO FROM A, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCE CENTER OPERATION TODAY, THAT'S THE DATA, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DATA THAT MARK'S TALKING ABOUT AND EACH OF YOU HAVE A CONVENIENCE CENTER TODAY AND UNDERSTANDING THE OPERATIONS OF THOSE FACILITIES WILL HELP US ANALYZE, UM, AND COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL THAT MAKES A SENSE FOR ALL OF US.
UH, WE HAVE MARILYN KNIGHT HERE WITH THE YEAH, MARILYN HAS BEEN HELPING US ALL.
MARILYN PROBABLY NEEDS TO COME FORWARD.
UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS ALSO.
AND I, I HADN'T INTRODUCED MARILYN, BUT AGAIN, MARILYN HAS BEEN HUGE IN INTRODUCING US TO Y'ALL AND HELPING US GET A SENSE OF WHERE THE, THE NEEDS ARE HERE.
I DO NOT GET NUMBERS FROM THE CONVENIENCE STATIONS AND WE HAVE TRIED TO DO THAT BEFORE AND A LOT OF TIMES, UNFORTUNATELY THE INFORMATION IS KIND OF SCATTERED HERE IN THE COUNTY.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PRECINCT FOUR OR YOU, YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH IN CONTROL OF THAT YOURSELF.
YEAH, I'VE GOT ALL THE NUMBERS.
AND THEN THE KAUFMAN ONE IS PRETTY ACCURATE BECAUSE OF CITY OF, OF KAUFMAN KEEPS PRETTY GOOD TRACK OF ALL THAT.
UM, IT'S THE ONE OUT OF TER THAT I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE TO GO TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
DO YOU, WHEN YOU WERE GETTING INFORMATION FROM THEM AND BILLING, DID IT HAVE EXACTLY.
THE ISSUE WITH TER WHERE WAS THAT WE FOUND OUT THAT WE HAD PEOPLE BRINGING THEIR REMODEL AND FILLING UP THE DUMPSTER AND PAYING A LITTLE BIT AND WE PAID A WHOLE BUNCH TO TAKE CARE OF, OF THIS ISSUE.
AND SO THIS IS WHERE THIS IS GONNA COME IN REALLY HANDY.
YOU'LL BE YOUR TRASH AND YOU'LL BE PAYING CARD UNTIL YOU WAIT WHEN YOU SLIDE YOUR, YOUR, UH, CALL.
BUT AT THIS TIME YOU ONLY HAVE A SHORT OF A SMALL AMOUNT OF DATA, RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE'VE ONLY BEEN AT THIS FOR A MONTH AND A HALF OR SO.
BUT THE INFORMATION, I MEAN RIGHT NOW TRASH IS GOING SOMEWHERE, IS GETTING HAULED AWAY, YOU KNOW, THE AUTHORIZATION TO SPEAK WITH THOSE HAULERS ON, ON THE COUNTY'S BEHALF AND COLLECT INFORMATION FROM THEM ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY'RE TAKING AWAY VOLUME, WEIGHT, UM, HOW OFTEN THEY'RE PICKING THESE UP.
ALL THAT IS REAL INFOR REAL VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR US.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE QUITE HAPPY TO DO THE DIGGING SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE EASILY ACCESSIBLE, BUT SAY, BUT THESE ARE THE GUYS PICKING IT UP, GIVE US THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, WE'LL HOUND THEM, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
I THINK THAT TRASH HAULERS ARE VERY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY ARE VERY COMPETITIVE AND THEY DON'T LIKE GIVING OUT NUMBERS.
BUT IF YOU, RIGHT, BUT THEY'VE GOT A CONTRACT WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA WALK AWAY FROM THEIR CONTRACT.
IF YOU GUYS SAY, HEY, WE WANNA KNOW HOW MUCH TRASH YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM US RIGHT NOW, I CAN, WE CAN FIND THAT OUT PRETTY EASILY, LIKE I SAID, FROM THE CITY OF KAUFMAN.
BUT THE CITY OF TERRELL IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY HAD THE CONTRACT AT THAT CONVENIENCE STATION.
LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE KEEPING THOSE NUMBERS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY OF CHERYL AND REQUEST THAT THROUGH THEIR CITY COUNCIL OR IF YOU HAVE THE, IF, IF YOU WOULD A LETTER FROM YOU TO THE CITY REQUESTING ALL THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE OKAY.
NOT REALLY SURE EXACTLY HOW WELL WE'RE KIND OF PLOWING YOU GROUND.
SO YEAH, WE ARE, AND IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, BEEN THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT SURE REALLY HOW THEIR NUMBERS ARE IF THEY EVEN REALLY HAVE THEM HAVE, HAVE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, I THINK OF THE COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP WE HAVE ANNUALLY.
AND UH, UH, AND I DUNNO, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY INTRIGUED WITH THIS IDEA, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I I THINK IT'S A CUTTING EDGE THING AND I I HOPE ALL THE HINKS CAN BE WORKED OUT OF IT, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE JUST KIND OF, AND THE FACT GATHERING YEAH, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE HAULING END, THE BACK END, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE REV THE PERMIT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, PART OF SOLVING THIS PROBLEM IS RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE BIG INCONVENIENCES IS HAVING TO GO TO ONE PLACE TO GET THE PERMIT SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET TO THE TRASH.
YOU KNOW, SO UNDERSTANDING BOTH THE, THE, THE HAULING
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SIDE, THE BACK END, BUT ALSO WE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING THE PERMIT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IN WHAT PRECINCTS, HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE VOLUME OF THOSE REVENUE, UH, PERMIT REQUESTS ARE COMING IN.YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US AND PUTTING PROGRAM TOGETHER, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO ON BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION, ON THE, ON THE OVERHEAD SIDE, FROM EACH PRECINCT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PERMITS YOU'RE SELLING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COST THAT IS YOUR, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, UM, LOADS, YEAH.
HOW MANY LOADS YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROCESSING, UH, EACH WEEK OR EACH MONTH, UM, STAFFING, UM, DOLLARS THAT YOU SPEND.
ALL THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, AS MUCH OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE COULD GET WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO PUTTING TOGETHER AN OVERALL PROGRAM TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
I THINK OUR AUDITOR SOLVE THIS WILL HAVE, SORRY, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WE HAVE WILL HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF THAT INFORM INFORMATION PERHAPS.
I THINK THAT FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD, THE AUDITORS FROM THE COUNTY SIDE AND THEN, BUT WE ARE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO CONTACT SOME OF THE CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY, WITHIN THE PRECINCTS.
UM, AND SOME MAY BE LESS IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS.
YOU ALL CAN DIRECT US AND HELP US UNDERSTAND WHICH OF THE CITIES THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TRASH FOR KAUFFMAN COUNTY AS A HOLISTIC THING, NOT YOU, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE STARTED TALKING WITH PRECINCT THREE, WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT IT AS A COUNTY Y THING.
'CAUSE SOMEBODY OVER IN PRECINCT ONE WHO'S GOT LITTLE EXTRA TRASH GONNA GO OVER TO WHEREVER THERE'S PLACE TO GET RID OF IT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.
AND IT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY THAT WHEN YOU DO THESE KIOSK, THAT YOU'LL DO FOUR OF THEM INSTEAD OF JUST ONE.
WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE ALL THE TRASH THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
WOULD IT BE A ALL OR NOTHING PROPOSITION? WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK, RIGHT? SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT, BUT OUR GOAL, WE WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS IF WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WE, THIS IS THE BUS, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO BE IN.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO BE THAT FRONT END TRASH PROCESSOR.
SO YEAH, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO TAKE IT OFF YOUR HANDS, YOU KNOW.
HAVE YOU MET WITH ANY OF THE CITIES, UH, AT THIS IN, IN COFFIN? NOT WITH ANY, WELL, RICHARDSON, DALLAS OR I MEAN ANY OF OUR, ANY OF OUR
UH, I'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING THROUGH YOU ALL.
YEAH, WELL I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AGENDA ITEM TALKS ABOUT, UH, FORMING A PARTNERSHIP AND, UH, I THINK MARILYN OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THIS.
AND AT THIS POINT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS JUST SEEKING DATA.
WELL, I THINK THAT WE NEED SOME DATA.
'CAUSE WE HAVE, WE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD HANDLING.
WE WE'RE, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT PLACES AND IT DOESN'T ALL EXACTLY MATCH UP.
JUST GETTING A, YOU KNOW, JUST SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME GATHERING THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER SO WE HAVE IT IN ONE PLACE.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT WITH ONE SET OF EYES, I THINK WILL GIVE US A GOOD INSIGHT.
THEN WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA MAKE SENSE FROM A PARTNERSHIP STANDPOINT.
WHAT MAKES, WHAT'S GONNA MAKE SENSE, HOW WE STRUCTURE THE, THE PARTNERSHIP, HOW WE WORK TOGETHER MOVING FORWARD.
WHAT SITES, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO START WITH, UM, ET CETERA.
SO REALLY THE DATA IS KIND OF THE KICK ON.
SO IS IT TOO EARLY FOR YOU TO DISCUSS THE SEPARATION ISSUE THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE MET? WELL, AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS THE RECYCLE PRODUCTS, THE TIRES, ALL THE, UH, UH, GENERAL GARBAGE.
ARE YOU GOING TO CHARGE FOR RECYCLING? ARE YOU, IS RECYCLING GONNA BE FREE? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE DO ABOUT TIRES? IS IT TOO EARLY FOR US TO, TO DISCUSS THAT? WE CAN DISCUSS ALL THAT.
I, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWERS, BUT WE TELL YOU WHAT OUR CURRENT THINKING IS.
YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOUR THINKING IS AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA FIGURE THE WHOLE THING OUT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SEPARATION AND UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KINDS OF MATERIALS.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOB HAS IDENTIFIED ARE SOME SINGLE STREAM YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT.
I MEAN, TODAY, EACH OF YOUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS USES A, YOU KNOW, A A TYPICAL ROLL OFF CONTAINER HAULER AS THE BACKEND SERVICE PROVIDER, MEANING THEY JUST PICK IT UP AND TAKE IT TO LANDFILL.
WELL, THERE'S OTHER THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS THAT, THAT ARE SINGLE STREAM RECYCLERS, UM, THAT WE COULD USE IN PLACE OF THAT.
AND SO RATHER THAN PICKING UP A 30 OR 40 YARD CONTAINER AND TAKING IT TO THE, THE LANDFILL GOES TO THE RECYCLING CENTER AND THEN IT'S SORTED.
THEY SEPARATED THAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING DOWN.
THEY'RE NOT TALKING THE LANDFILL SUPPOSED.
THAT YOUR TRASH NO, THE RIGHT, THE RECYCLING GOES TO A RECYCLING, BUT, BUT THEY DO, THEY ALWAYS SAY, THEY
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ALWAYS SAY THAT THE FREIGHT EATS UP ALL THE, ALL THE MATERIAL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A SUBJECT TO ME.WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THE FREIGHT EATS UP THE MATERIAL? IN OTHER WORDS, IN OTHER WORDS, UH, IF THEY PICK UP 40 YARDS OF, OF PLASTIC GLASS AND CANS DOWN THERE AND TAKE IT UP THERE AND DUMP IT OUT AND PUT IT ON OUR TROLLEY, THEN IT WIND, WE DON'T EVER WIND UP GETTING ANYTHING FOR IT.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I CALL UP THERE TO THE COMPANY, SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL, HOW MUCH DID OUR PLASTIC BRING US TO ALL FREIGHT? EATS IT ALL UP.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING ON THE BIG COMPANY.
YEAH, WE'RE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE AT DO PUBLIC.
BUT I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S A RIGHT WAY, THERE'S A BETTER WAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE WRONG WAY TO KIND OF SEPARATE THIS STUFF AND TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR COFFMAN COUNTY IN EACH OF THE PRECINCTS IN TERMS OF WHERE THE MATERIALS SEPARATED.
IS IT DONE ONSITE THAT IN TERMS OF A CUSTOMER, YOU KNOW, INTERFACE, OR IS IT DONE ON THE BACK END? YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP YOU SOLVE THAT PROBLEM AND FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE MAKES THE MOST SENSE, UM, FROM A CONVENIENCE STANDPOINT, FROM THE USER AND ALSO FROM AN OPERATION STANDPOINT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
SO IT'S, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE ALL THAT DIALOGUE EITHER HERE OR OFFLINE OR WHATEVER MAKES SENSE.
BUT STARTING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENTIRE COFFIN COUNTY, UM, TRASH REQUIREMENT ENVIRONMENT IS REALLY, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF BASE, IT'S KIND OF THE BASE FOR US BASELINE.
AND SO YOU'RE HELPING IN GETTING US, YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT, GETTING US THAT DATA OR ACCESS TO THE DATA IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US AT THIS STAGE.
SO, SO I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.
IS THERE GONNA BE A CHARGE FOR RECYCLING? IN OTHER WORDS, PLASTIC PAPER, UH, CARDBOARD NEWSPAPER? I, I'M, I'M, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE MY ANSWER THEN BOB CAN TELL YOU HIS VIEW.
I DON'T, I'M GONNA TELL YOU I DON'T KNOW YET.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA WORK.
'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT A LOT OF YOU GUYS HAVE THESE NOTES, BUT LET ME, RIGHT.
BUT WE WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO NEED TO HAVE ANSWERS TO THAT BEFORE WE CAN PUT THE EVENTUAL PROGRAM TOGETHER.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SEEK INFORMATION ON NOW.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE VIEW OF WHAT THAT THESE CONVENIENCE STATIONS FOR IS JUST, THAT'S A CONVENIENCE.
AND AS A CONVENIENCE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE DIFFERENT RATES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF MATERIAL OR LOOK, WE'VE GOT A CONVENIENT PLACE, YOU WANNA BRING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YOU CAN BRING IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT.
BUT THIS CONVENIENCE THING IS X CENTS A POUND FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DROP OFF.
AND THAT'S ONE, THAT'S ONE WAY OF DOING IT.
YOU KNOW, ANOTHER WAY MIGHT BE HAVE A SEPARATE PLACE FOR RECYCLING AND A SEPARATE PLACE FOR TRASH AND THEN PUTTING IT ON THE PEOPLE TO SEPARATE IT OUT OR TO DO THE SINGLE STREAM THING.
I THINK WHEN YOU DO THE SINGLE STREAM STUFF, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO HAVE A DIFFERENT RATE FOR A PLASTIC CAN AND A, YOU KNOW, A CARDBOARD CAN.
SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER YET, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BY GATHERING THIS INFORMATION.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
AT THIS POINT, IT'S HARD FOR US TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS TO WHETHER WE WOULD CHARGE FOR RECYCLING AND IF SO, HOW MUCH AND HOW IT DIFFERS FROM OTHER BULK TRASH.
BECAUSE IT REALLY IS GONNA DEPEND ON THE OVERALL TOTAL SOLUTION, GIVEN THE TOTAL ENVIRONMENT OF, OF USAGE FOR THESE FACILITIES.
AND THE DATA IS THE KEY TO US TO KIND OF UNLOCK ALL THAT AND FIGURE IT OUT.
AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MORE DIRECTLY AND, AND SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND WORK OUT, HERE'S WHAT THIS FEE SCHEDULE WOULD BE.
HERE'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU THINK THIS WILL WORK IN THE COUNTY? AND YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE SAID FROM EVERY CONVERSATION WE HAVE WITH YOU ALL, WE'RE REALLY VIEWING THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP.
WE, WE DO BELIEVE WE CAN PROVIDE REAL SERVICE HERE AND PROVIDE SOME REAL ASSISTANCE TO THE COUNTY.
BUT YOU GUYS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING US A BIG HELP TOO.
UM, THIS IS VERY VALUABLE TO US TO BE ABLE TO REALLY WORK OUT THE KINKS IN A REAL ENVIRONMENT.
WELL, AGAIN, I, I'M PRETTY INTRIGUED WITH THE IDEA.
I JUST THINK I'M SURPRISED SOMEBODY, AS I TOLD THE FIRST TIME I MET WITH SOMEBODY, HAD ALL OF THIS EARLIER, LIKE A CAR WASH, WHATEVER, CAR WASH, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
OH, I THINK TOO POSSIBLY RECYCLE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN DOING NOW LANDFILL.
YOU THINK IT, DO YOU THINK IT'S, IT'S A VIABLE, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY WOULD FEEL ABOUT PAYING FOR IT.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT WE DEAL WITH WHEN, WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE RECYCLING, SEPARATION AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW.
I, I MEAN AS FAR AS THE PEOPLE SEPARATING IT, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THEMSELVES SEPARATING IT AT OUR, OUR FACILITY.
THEY COME IN AND THEY'RE WALKING FROM CONTAINER TO CONTAINER.
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THEY ARE THERE EVERY FIVE MINUTES ALL DAY.YOU GOTTA PUT A CHARGE ON THEM FOR DOING THAT.
BUT NOW THEN I DON'T KNOW, THEN WHAT? THEN I DON'T KNOW.
BUT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE REALLY BEEN THINKING ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT US GOING OUT AND DOING A SURVEY, AND I CAN'T DO IT UNTIL PROBABLY SEPTEMBER.
I CANNOT PUT MY PEOPLE STANDING OUT THERE IN THE HEAT LIKE THAT.
BUT DOING A SURVEY WHERE WE ASK SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
I, WE PROBABLY HAVE 50 PEOPLE IF NOT MORE A DAY THAT ARE DRIVING IN AND JUST DROPPING THEIR STUFF OFF.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU HAVE A DAY, BUT THAT LITTLE CONTAINER THAT WE HAVE THERE IS, I MEAN, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
AND YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT COULD DO THAT ALL DAY TOO.
YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE SHE SEES EVERYBODY DRIVING, DRIVING IN.
AND IF WE COULD GET SOME DATA AS FAR AS WOULD PEOPLE REALLY WANNA DO THAT? YOU KNOW, WOULD THEY BE WILLING AND WHAT MAYBE HE CAN GIVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT THE PRICES MIGHT BE AND IF WE CAN GATHER THIS INFORMATION DURING, YOU KNOW, THE END OF JULY AND AUGUST AS FAR AS NUMBERS, HE CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER AND THEN HE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO NOW KNOW WOULD PEOPLE BE WILLING TO DO THIS? WHAT WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO PAY? YOU KNOW, WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO GO TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND WE COULD MAYBE PUT A PETITION, NOT A PETITION, BUT SOME KIND OF A GRAPH TOGETHER THAT WOULD GIVE THEM SOME REALLY GOOD IDEA IF THIS WOULD WOULD.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK TO REMEMBER IS THEY'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW MEAN THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS.
PEOPLE ARE PAYING RIGHT NOW FOR THAT.
AND, AND IN SOME CASES YOU JUST GOT A BAG OF SMELLY FISH HEADS AND SITTING IN THE GARAGE AND YOU WANT TO GET RID OF IT AND YOU KNOW, A PERMIT IS $7 AND 50 CENTS, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CALL US DON'T, DEAD ANIMALS ANYTHING.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THE POINT IS PEOPLE WANNA GET RID OF IT.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO GET RID OF IT NOW AND THEY CAN WAITING.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL THEY GOT A, A CUBIC YARD OF TRASH TO GET RID.
I'VE EVEN HAD PEOPLE, I MEAN, I'VE SAID YOU GET, YOU'VE GOT CURBSIDE IN FOUR.
I'VE HAD PEOPLE CALL AND THEY SAY, WE, WHY ARE YOU NOT OPEN? BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DRIVE, YOU KNOW, WAY OVER TO ANOTHER TOWN.
AND THEY BASICALLY ARE WANTING TO GET RID OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE LARGE ENOUGH THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT IT OUT AND WAIT FOR THEIR CURBSIDE BECAUSE THEY HAVE CURBSIDE RECYCLE OR CURBSIDE PICKUP.
AND THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANNA WAIT THAT LONG.
SO THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST IMPATIENT AND WANT TO GET RID OF THEIR TRACKS RIGHT AWAY.
WELL, I THINK TO KIND OF CLOSE THIS THING UP, UH, IT, IT APPEARS THERE'S INTEREST ON OUR PART TO WORK THROUGH THAT AND WHATEVER THAT MEANS, I GUESS, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
WE NEED SOME SORT OF FORMAL AGREEMENT.
I THINK AT THIS POINT, ALL WE REALLY NEED IS YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO SPEAK TO THE AUDIT PEOPLE.
TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE, THE CITIES WITHIN THE PRECINCTS.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR US TO GATHER THE DATA WE NEED.
IF THEY SAY, LOOK, THE COMMISSIONER, THE JUDGE HAS SAID, YEAH, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU THIS.
AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO WHENEVER YOU GET INTO THE CITIES LIKE FORNEY OR CALL FROM
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT GOING AND SPEAKING WITH I THINK THE MAYOR FORNEY OR SOME POINT, I THINK YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GO STICK WITH THE CITIES MM-HMM
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COUNTY OWNS ANY PROPERTY THAT THIS COULD BE PUT ON WITHOUT BEING IN THE CITY LIMITS.
WE'RE GONNA PUT ONE NEXT DOOR TO YOUR CONVENIENCE STATION NOW.
SO MORE ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY PURCHASED, OR IT'D HAVE TO BE IN THE CITY.
LIKE IT COULD BE DOWN THERE AT THE COFFMAN, SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT ONE DOWN HERE, IT'S IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S OUT THERE WHERE THIS SAYS PRECINCT THREE.
OF COURSE THAT ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF AREA OUT THERE.
BUT THE PRECINCT FACILITY THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IS NOT ZONED FOR RECYCLING OR TRASH EITHER 1 4 29 SITE.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK IS COUNTYWIDE CLEAN CLEANUP.
ARE YOU THINKING THAT THIS WOULD END UP DISSOLVING THAT? SO THAT, THAT I DON THINK IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY IN MY OPINION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S UH, BUT IF WE GOT THOSE NUMBERS, YEAH, IT MIGHT PUT THEM OFF IF THEY THOUGHT THAT.
'CAUSE PEOPLE, IF YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP, PEOPLE HOLD ONTO THAT TRASH RIGHT HERE.
WELL, THE KEY CHEST, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO GET RID OF.
I THINK IT'D BE KIND OF PREMATURE FOR US TO SAY WHAT WE WOULD DO, BUT I'M, I WOULD HOPE THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE PRE STUFF DON'T MISUNDERSTAND AND IT IS A HUGELY POPULAR THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO EACH YEAR AND THE COMMISS REALLY WORK HARD AND THEIR CREWS WORK HARD AND MAKE IT WORK.
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UH, BUT I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EARLY TO, TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE BE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG.AND SEE, I WOULD HOPE THAT IF THIS CONCEPT WORKS AND WE GET IT OFF THE GROUND AND WE HAVE ENOUGH CONTAINERS, UH, AND YOU GUYS ARE, I MEAN YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR CHARITY REASONS OBVIOUSLY.
SO, UH, AND YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HOLD ONTO IT, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S FREE, BUT BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE TIME TAKING IT HUNTING SOMEPLACE TO TAKE IT TOO WELL OTHER THAN DUCK ON THE COUNTY ROAD, WHICH, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT A PARTNERSHIP WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, ONCE WE HAVE THESE PUT UP, THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU ALL CAN DO TO HELP US THAN TO HELP US COMMUNICATE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO KNOW THESE FACILITIES EXIST AND THEY'RE THERE FOR THEIR USE AND HOW IT WORKS.
AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PROBABLY DO THAT COMMUNICATION JOB.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS STILL WATER BILL OR THROUGH SOME WAY OF COMMUNICATING ON A COUNTYWIDE BASIS.
I MEAN, THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT THE MEDIA CAN HELP.
WE COULD PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A NUMBER OF YEAH.
UM, SO IF WE GATHERED THE INFORMATION FROM COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THEM TO KNOW THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THEY MIGHT PUT OVER HERE AND NOT SAY THIS IS JUST A GENERAL EVERYDAY THING THAT PEOPLE MIGHT DO.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, WAS TRYING TO GET TO.
BUT THAT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION TO GATHER.
AND, AND, BUT TO KNOW THAT THAT IS WHAT THAT'S FROM.
WHATEVER WE ULTIMATELY DECIDE TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT PROGRAM YOU HAVE, MAYBE IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE, YOU KNOW, TRASH CLUB OPERATION AT SOME POINT AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T HAD TO MANAGE THAT WE A FREE DAY.
THERE'S SOME WAY TO TO WORK THAT OUT, BUT THE DE BUT THE COLLECTION, THE VOLUME AND ALL THAT IS IMPORTANT DATA FOR US TO GET AS WELL.
I'LL TELL YOU JUST ABOUT TWO DAYS ACTUALLY.
I MEAN, UH, IT, IT IS AMAZING THE, UH, AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT BRING THEIR GARBAGE OR REFUGE INTO UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS LOCATIONS WE HAVE.
I THINK THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY A WAY I, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE THE CONVENIENCE OF NOT HAVING TO HANG ONTO TO THEIR TRASH ALL YEAR.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER PEOPLE WHO WILL BE HAPPY TO HANG ON TO IT, TO GET RID OF IT ON THE FREE DAY.
AND WE COULD WORK THAT INTO A PROGRAM.
WE COULD HAVE A, YOU KNOW, FREE TRASH UP WEEKEND AND WE ANNOUNCE IT AND THAT COVERS THE KIND OF OUR CLEANUP.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
I WOULDN'T BET BY WATCHING WHAT WE BROUGHT IN OVER OUR WORLD, WE COULD PROBABLY ELIMINATE HALF OF OUR TRAFFIC ON THAT DAY IF THEY HAD SOMEWHERE TO GO ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE THEY'D SHOW UP WITH A CHAIR.
AND THEY JUST WANT THEIR PLACE TO GET RID OF, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE OR THEIR BASS BOAT.
IT'S EITHER TAKE THEM THERE OR GET 'EM OFF THE COUNTY ROAD, YOU KNOW, THEY LANDFILL.
REALLY, WE APPRECIATE YOUR INTERESTED CALL COUNTY, COUNTY.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UH, WORKING IN MARYLAND AND WITH COMMISSIONER SHANE AND GETTING THIS THING STARTED.
DO, UH, COMMISSIONER, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UH, OTHER THAN THIS? I JUST, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT AND TRY TO PROMOTE NUMBER.
MY TAKE ON THIS IS A STUDY WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR KAMAN COUNTY.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE TRASH BUSINESS AT DOWN MINE.
WITH THE GROWTH COMING THIS AWAY, I THINK, UH, WE'D BE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF WHAT'S GONNA GO FORWARD.
WHETHER THIS WORKS OUT WITH Y'ALL OR IT DOESN'T WORK OUT WITH YOU, IT'LL GIVE US AS COMMISSIONERS, UH, SITTING HERE A GOOD IDEA OF WHERE THE COUNTY'S GOING.
AND, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MUDS HERE IN TON COUNTY THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF IDEAS ON THINGS.
AND THIS, Y'ALL ARE GONNA GIVE US SOME INFORMATION AND I THINK CAN BE, WE'LL START DOWN THAT PATH.
AND WITH YOUR HELP AND ASSISTANCE, WE'LL GET TO THE TREASURER AND THE, AND THE, AT LEAST IF I, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED ME TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT, WELL, WE'LL CALL ON ALL OF YOU TO HELP OUT WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, POINT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THIS CONTACTS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS.
BUT WE'LL BEGIN ON IT RIGHT AWAY.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
WELL, WE THANK YOU FOR DOING SO.
I HAVE A, I I LIKE THAT WE FORM A PARTNERSHIP WITH TRASH HOSE IN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE FOR INFORMATION GATHERING PURCHASE ONLY.
I WOULD ONLY LIKE TO AMEND IT THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO EXPAND THAT BEYOND PRECINCT THREE FOR US.
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GOT LARGER SCALE WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING.WE HAVE INFORMATION GATHERING PURPOSES, AREN'T IT? RIGHT? YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
ANY, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER LIK SECOND.
AND THE NEXT ITEM IS TO ADJOURN.