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IT'S UH, NINE 30, AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO, UH, THE MEETING OF THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, TODAY ON AUGUST THE 12TH, 2013.
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU BEING HERE.
THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT IN ACTION, AND SO WE, UH, APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE TO, UH, UH, ATTEND THE COMMISSIONER COURT.
UH, I HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UH, THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE COURT THIS MORNING.
AND, UH, WE WILL, UH, ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT CERTAINLY AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING.
UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO, UH, THREE MINUTES, AND MS. HUGHES, IF YOU WOULD BE ASSIGNED AS TO BE THE TIMEKEEPER AGAIN FOR US ON THAT.
AND, UH, WE'LL, UH, DO THAT JUST IN A FEW MOMENTS.
SO IF ANY OTHERS WISH TO, UH, UH, ADDRESS THE COURT HERE MOMENTARILY, WE'LL BE, UH, PLEASED TO, UH, ALLOW YOU TO DO SO.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, BEFORE WE START THE MEETING, I SHOULD, UH, MENTION TO, UH, THE CROWD HERE TODAY AND, AND TO OTHERS THAT MAY NOT HAVE HEARD, UH, LLOYD COOK, A MEMBER OF THE MEDIA WORKS FOR THE CALL FROM HAROLD, WHO NORMALLY ATTENDS OUR MEETING, UH, IS NOT HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE PASSED AWAY OVER THE WEEKEND, UH, UNEXPECTEDLY.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A REPORTER FROM, UH, HIS ASSISTANT PAPER IN TERRELL, UH, THAT WILL BE COVERING THE MEETING TODAY.
UH, BUT WE NEED TO, UH, REMEMBER, UH, LLOYD'S, UH, HIS MEMORY AND CERTAINLY WE NEED TO, UH, UH, REMEMBER HIS FAMILY AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT TIME.
UH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE ARRANGEMENTS.
I HEARD IT'S GONNA BE THURSDAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? THURSDAY IS KAREN CURTAINS? I DON'T KNOW.
UH, I DUNNO, THE FUNERAL HOME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, UM, THAT'S ON THE, ON THE PAPER WEBSITE.
I, I HEARD THINGS ON BE THURSDAY, SO, UH, BUT ANY RATE, UH, WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AND, UH, UH, WE'LL HAVE A PLEDGE TO THE AM AMERICAN FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG HERE.
BUT, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND STAND AND WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
LORD, WE THANK YOU THIS MORNING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TOGETHER, GET TOGETHER AS A COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND, UH, ALSO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY THAT ARE HERE TODAY TO JOIN US, THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
LORD, WE, UH, ENTER INTO THIS MEETING WITH A, ON A NOTE OF SADNESS, UH, WITH THE PASSING OF, UH, LLOYD COOK.
UH, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAD TO WORK WITH LLOYD OVER THE LAST, UH, I BELIEVE THREE YEARS.
UH, WE REMEMBER, UH, HIM NOW, AND WE ALSO, LORD WOULD, UH, ASK THAT YOU COMFORT AND, UH, HIS FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS, UH, AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS TIME OF SORROW.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR, UH, UH, THE ABILITY WE HAVE TO GATHER TOGETHER AS CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY THAT WE CAN GATHER HERE IN FREEDOM, THAT WE CAN GATHER HERE AND LIFT UP YOUR NAME AND ALL THE OTHER BLESSINGS THAT YOU PROVIDE US FROM TIME TO TIME THAT MANY TIMES, UH, PERHAPS WE FORGET OR WE THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE SAVING GRACE THAT YOU PROVIDE US.
WE KNOW THAT MANY TIMES WE'RE NOT WORTHY OF THAT.
WE KNOW ALSO THAT, UH, THAT YOU LOOK OVER EACH ONE OF US EVERY DAY AND THAT YOU PROTECT US.
AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK YOU FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, AND YOU WILL POINT THE WAY FOR US, LORD, TO KEEP US SAFE.
THESE THINGS ARE ASKING FOR THY SONS HOLY NAME.
ID SEAL BACK OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND INTO THE REPUBLIC FOR STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INDIVISIBLE WITH LEVERAGING I JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS ACT TO BE ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.
UH, SHERIFF, YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SIGN INS? I'VE ALREADY, UH, NO, I GOT SOME HERE.
SO, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THAT.
THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, UH, NEXT ITEM HERE JUST IN A, IN, IN A MOMENT.
UH, UH, THE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO, UH, PROVIDE, UH, IN THAT REGARD.
SO WE'LL GO BACK AND, UH, HEAR REMARKS FROM VISITORS AND AS YOU COME FORWARD TO ADDRESS THE COURT, I ASK THAT YOU, UH, COME TO THE MICROPHONE HERE AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND, UH, AGAIN, IF YOU'LL, UH, BE SO KIND AS TO KEEP YOUR REMARKS TO, UH, THREE MINUTES OR LESS, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
FIRST IS DAVID SMITH, UH, FROM, UH, DOG PATCH LANE.
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IF YOU'D, UH, COME FORWARD.I'M A TAXPAYER, UH, IN LEWIS COUNTY.
I'M ALSO A DETENTION OFFICER, UH, AT THE JAIL.
UH, SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, SITTING HERE AT THE BACK, UM, OUR, OUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE TAXPAYERS, OTHER RESIDENTS OF CORMAN COUNTY.
UM, BY DEFINITION, UH, A PRIVATE COMPANY TAKING OVER THE JAIL, THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WOULD BE TO MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFIT MARGINS OF THEIR PRIVATE OWNERS OR SHAREHOLDERS.
SHERIFF BURNS, UH, HOLDS THE FULL LEGAL, CRIMINAL CIVIL LIABILITY FOR THE CLAND COUNTY JAIL, UH, TAKES THIS RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND PRESENTLY, THERE'S A VERY, VERY CLEAR HIERARCHY OF COMMAND RESPONSIBILITY EXISTS, AND THIS HAS BECOME LESS CLEAR IF A PRIVATE COMPANY BECOMES INVOLVED.
UH, KC IS CURRENTLY HELD AS AN EXAMPLE OF A JAIL FACILITY WHENEVER THE TEXAS JAIL STANDARDS AS AN INSPECTION.
UH, AND THIS IS DUE TO THE DEDICATION AND ATTENTION TO DETAILS OF THE CURRENT STAFF WITHOUT WORKING UNDER, UM, I BELIEVE THE DECISION TO PRIVATIZE THE, THE JAIL SHOULD BE MADE BY MORE THAN THREE PEOPLE WITHIN CORLAND COUNTY.
UH, I'VE HEARD NO ONE CURRENTLY WORKING AT THE JAIL WHO BELIEVES PRIVATIZATION IS A GOOD MOVE, UH, OR IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY.
THE ONLY THREE PEOPLE I'VE HEARD OF, UH, ESP, THIS IS A GOOD MOVE AT THE MOMENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER
UM, AND IF IT'S SUCH A GOOD IDEA, THEN I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD, UH, PUT A REFERENDUM TO THE VOTERS IN THE COUNTY AND LET EVERYONE WHO WAS A VOTE OF THE COUNTY MAKE A DECISION ON THIS.
'CAUSE IT'S, IN MY OPINION, IF WE GO PRIOR, IT'S A ALMOST IRREVOCABLE DECISION, AND I PERSONALLY THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY BAD DECISION FOR THE COUNTY.
NEXT IS GAIL KINS, UH, COUNTY ROAD 1 0 4.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, ALLOWING US TO BE A PART OF THIS TODAY.
UM, I'M CURRENTLY A NIGHT DETENTION OFFICER AT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY JAIL, AND I FEEL THAT PRIVATIZING AT THE JAIL WOULD NOT BE A SOUND DECISION FOR THE COUNTY, FOR US AS EMPLOYEES OR FOR THE INMATES.
OUR DETENTION OFFICERS MAKE SURE THAT THE RULES OF THE JAIL ARE FOLLOWED AND THE RIGHTS AND THE WELLBEING OF OUR INMATES ARE PROTECTED.
THIS PROTECTS THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE COUNTY FROM GETTING A POSSIBLE LAWSUIT FROM AN INMATE.
I FEEL THAT A PRIVATE COMPANY IS MAINLY CONCERNED WITH THEIR PROFIT MARGIN AND WOULD NOT BE AS DILIGENT ABOUT THE RIGHTS AND SAFETY OF OUR INMATES OR BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE.
I KNOW THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE AND EXCEED JAIL STANDARDS.
WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN DOING OUR JOB, RIGHT? PRIVATE COMPANIES ALWAYS COME IN CUTTING CORNERS TO BEEF UP THEIR BOTTOM LINE.
THIS COULD BACKFIRE ON KAUFMAN COUNTY AND ACTUALLY COST MORE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.
RECENTLY, A JAIL FACILITY WAS CLOSED DUE TO NUMEROUS VIOLATIONS THAT OCCURRED AFTER IT.
UH, THE PRIVATIZATION, MANY PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS, AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN HERE.
I DO NOT WANNA LOSE MY JOB OR SEE ANY OF MY COWORKERS LOSE THEIRS, EXCUSE ME, AND BE ABLE TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES OR LOSE THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO JOB HERE AT THE JAIL.
WE ARE A TEAM AND WE LOOK OUT, EXCUSE ME, FOR ONE ANOTHER.
I THINK THIS REFLECTS IN OUR WORK ETHIC, AND EVERYONE PULLS TOGETHER AND DOES THEIR PART.
WE DON'T JUST PUT INMATES IN A CELL, AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INMATE DOES NOT GET HURT OR THAT THEY DON'T HURT THEIR SELVES.
THEY, THAT THEY GET THE MEDICAL ATTENTION THAT THEY NEED.
THEY ALSO RECEIVE RECREATION AT LEAST THREE TIMES PER WEEK.
WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ALL THEIR NECESSARY PERSONAL HYGIENE ITEMS AND CLEAN UNIFORMS. WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET TO SEE THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO VISIT THEM EACH TIME.
IT'S THEIR TIME FOR VISITATION.
INMATES HAVE TO BE PADDED DOWN.
THEY HAVE TO BE CUFFED AND BELTED BEFORE THEY CAN GO TO VISITATION.
THIS ALL TAKES TIME AND TEAMWORK.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING NOW WITH BARELY ENOUGH EMPLOYEES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JOB IS DONE PROPERLY.
IF THE DETENTION OFFICERS START LOSING THEIR JOBS, THEN THERE IS NO WAY THAT ALL THESE NECESSARY THINGS WILL GET DONE.
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THERE WILL SIMPLY NOT BE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES TO DO THE JOB PROPERLY.NO ONE IN THE JAIL FACILITY WANTS TO LOSE THEIR JOB.
WE WANT TO BE HERE AND KEEP DOING THE GOOD JOB THAT WE ARE DOING NOW.
I BELIEVE THAT PRIVATIZATION WILL CREATE MORE PROBLEMS THAN IT WILL SOLVE FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY, AND KAUFMAN COUNTY WILL SUFFER FOR IT.
A LOT OF US LIVE LIKE MYSELF, LIVE HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND PAY TAXES HERE.
WHEN OUR NEW JAIL WAS OPEN, WE WERE ALL PROUD OF THE GREAT FACILITY THAT WE HAD.
THIS FACILITY IS ONLY AS GREAT AS ITS EMPLOYEES THAT WORK HERE.
WE DO A GREAT JOB HERE, AND I WANT IT TO REMAIN THAT WAY.
PRIVATIZATION IS NOT WHAT WE NEED.
WE NEED THE GOOD EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE WORKING HERE.
SOMETIMES WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GOOD IDEA ISN'T ALWAYS.
DAVID RAY FROM, UH,
GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF COMMISSION.
AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OUT THERE, TAXPAYERS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, UM, WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I ENJOY MY JOB AT THE JAIL, AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY ASK WHY.
UM, I FEEL I'M PROVIDING SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR EACH AND EVERY PRISONER.
I'M PROVIDING SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR TAXPAYERS OUT THERE, BECAUSE WE GOT SOME BAD PEOPLE IN THAT JAIL, AND I HAVEN'T KNOWN, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU GUYS OUT HERE, AND YOU'RE FOOT IN THE BILL.
I CARE ABOUT MY JOB, NOT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES ME A PAYCHECK, BUT PROVIDES ME JOB SECURITY.
AND IT'S SOMETHING I REALLY ENJOY DOING.
I KNOW I'M DOING SOMETHING GOOD IN MY LIFE.
I KNOW RECENTLY A TIME BACK, MAYBE IN THE SPRING, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TOOK A, A TOUR OF THE JAIL, AND I'M WOULD ASK WITH THE SHERIFF'S PERMISSION OF THE COURSE TO COME BACK AND SPEND A WHOLE NIGHT WITH US ON D SHIFT.
I'M A DETENTION OFFICER THERE.
AND TO LEARN WHAT GOES ON IN THAT 12 HOUR PERIOD, AND NOT JUST IN 20 OR 30 MINUTES, WOULD MAYBE ENLIGHTEN SOME OF YOU TO SEE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TO FACE.
VIOLENT INMATES, INMATES THAT ARE NO LONGER ON THEIR MEDICATION, MAKING THEM VIOLENT.
IF WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THERE YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF THAT ARE BOOKED IN FOR VARIOUS SERIOUS CHARGES, AND WE HAVE TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY AS WELL AS THE SAFETY OF MYSELF AND MY FELLOW EMPLOYEES EVERY NIGHT.
UM, I WANNA LEAVE YOU WITH THESE WORDS OF WISDOM.
THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO EASY ANSWERS, BUT THERE ARE SIMPLE ANSWERS.
WE MUST HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT WE KNOW IS MORALLY RIGHT, AND THAT'S TO HELP PROTECT EVERYONE HERE, THE TAXPAYERS, THE EMPLOYEES, AND OF COURSE THE INMATES.
UH, NEXT FOR DAY OF BLAIR FROM, UH, CRESTVIEW ESTATES TODAY.
THANK YOU COMMITTEE HERE THIS MORNING.
I'M CURRENTLY A NOT SERGEANT IN THE JAIL.
UM, I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE WITH ME, UM, OR CHOSE TO COME AS WELL, THAT, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS FOR OUR OWN SAFETY AND THE INMATES IN THE FUTURE THAT IT COULD HOLD FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH, UH, AS MUCH AS I CAN, UH, OVER THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT OCCURRED TO FACILITIES THAT PRIVATE ENTITIES TOOK.
AND, UH, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE OTHERS HAVE MADE IS TRUE.
THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED WITH THEIR BOTTOM LINE, WHICH, AND I I UNDERSTAND IT'S A BUSINESS, YOU'RE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE.
AND IF YOU SET IT UP, A LOT OF THE RULES WORKING FOR SHERIFF, MY, HE HAS VERY, VERY STRICT POLICIES, AND WE, WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO THOSE POLICIES.
AND THE REASONS FOR THOSE POLICIES IS THE YEARS HE HAS AN EXPERIENCE THAT HAS TAUGHT HIM THAT IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, THIS IS A HIGHER PROBABILITY OF HAPPENING.
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GONNA GET SUED.I TAKE MY JOB SERIOUSLY, AND I CARE BECAUSE YOU PAY ME TO.
ALL THESE PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY.
THAT'S HOW WE APPROACH IT EVERY DAY.
IF WE DIDN'T CARE, CAN WE'D WALK IN THERE AND WE DO WHATEVER WE WANTED AND ALL THESE THINGS WOULD NOT GET DONE.
WE WOULDN'T PASS JAIL INSPECTION.
YOU COME IN WITH PRIVATE COMPANY AND THEY CUT SALARIES TO $8 AN HOUR, $10 AN HOUR, THINGS THAT STATISTICALLY HAPPEN.
WHAT INCENTIVE DOES THAT PERSON HAVE TO CARE OF? WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR MONEY? OR YOUR BROTHER, SON, NEPHEW, OR WHOEVER IS IN OUR CUSTODY? WHAT INCENTIVE DOES HE HAVE? HE HAS MONEY.
DOES HE GO TO MCDONALD'S TO GET THAT SAME JOB? I HAVE A BIG CENTER.
WHEN I DID MY ORAL BOARD, THEY SAID, YOU DON'T LIVE IN KAMAN COUNTY.
WHY SHOULD WE WANT YOU WORK IN FOR OUR CITY? I WORKED IN KAUFMAN COUNTY SINCE I WAS 24 YEARS OLD, AND I'M 40.
I DON'T PAY TAXES HERE, BUT MY PARENTS DO.
BUT I PAID, I SPEND A LOT OF TAX DOLLARS HERE.
I SPEND OVER OVER SIX GRAND A YEAR OF THE MONEY YOU GIVE ME.
I SPEND IT KAUFMAN'S LOCAL BUSINESSES.
IF I'M NOT DRIVING KAUFMAN'S JAIL TO WORK HERE, I AIN'T SPENDING THAT MONEY IN KAUFMAN.
BUT I'LL BE GETTING MONEY FROM SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT'S A BIG CIRCLE.
YES, IT'S COST ME MONEY, BUT IT'S GIVING ME MONEY BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY.
AND I KNOW I'M PROBABLY GETTING CLOSE TO THREE MINUTES, SO YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.
EVERYBODY THIS YEAR FROM THE JUDGE, PLEASE STAND.
ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE FACES, HUMAN BEINGS, THEY'RE NOT NUMBERS.
FROM, UH, I BELIEVE YOU HEAR FROM CRAN, RIGHT? GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND THE OTHERS BEFORE ME STOLE ALL OF MY MATERIAL.
SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA HEAR A LOT OF IT.
AGAIN, WE LIVE IN CRANDALL AND I'M A DETENTION OFFICER AT THE KALIN COUNTY JAIL.
WE DEAL WITH THOSE THAT BREAK INTO YOUR HOMES AND CARS AND STEAL YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND THOSE THAT ARE MENTALLY CHALLENGED AND ORDER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES SCARING OFF THE CUSTOMER, WE TAKE THEM INTO.
THEN THERE'S THE DUIS FROM THE HIGHWAY THAT RUN YOUR FAMILY OFF THE ROAD, NEARLY AVERTING DEATH, SOMETIMES NOT.
WE GET THEM THE HOMELESS, WE'RE FILTHY URINE SO CLOSE, WE GET THEM.
SO WE CLEAN 'EM UP, SOBER 'EM UP, FEED THEM, WE GET THEM, AND WE TREAT THEM WITH HUMANITY AND WE CARE.
12 HOURS ON, 12 HOURS OFF, FOUR DAYS ON, FOUR DAYS OFF.
YES, IT IS A CHALLENGING JOB AND NOT A JOB FOR JUST ANYONE.
DO ANY OF YOUR WIVES, DAUGHTERS, SONS, BROTHERS OR SISTERS HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF MY COWORKERS? I'M GUESSING PROBABLY NOT, BUT IF YOUR DIVORCED DAUGHTER OR SON WERE WORKING HERE AND WAS THE SOLE SUPPORT OF THEIR CHILDREN AND HOUSEHOLD, AS MANY OF MY COWORKERS ARE, WOULD YOU BE SO QUICK TO PRIVATIZE THIS JAIL? I'M SO THANKFUL TO HAVE THIS JOB AND THIS OPPORTUNITY, THIS, THIS TIME.
LAST YEAR I WAS WORKING IN 106 DEGREE TEMPERATURE AT HOME DEPOT IN CARROLL IN THE GARDEN CENTER.
IT WAS JUST A PART-TIME JOB AND, UM, IT BARELY MADE ENOUGH TO HELP WITH OUR BILLS.
SO THIS JOB WAS A GODSEND FOR US.
WHEN I WAS HIRED IN OCTOBER OF 2012, WE WERE EVEN ABLE TO BUY A NEW COM COMPACT CAR.
SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO DEPEND ON MY 15-YEAR-OLD VEHICLE THAT HAS 250,000 MILES ON IT TO GET ME BACK AND FORTH TO MY SHIFT EVERY TIME.
NOW, I'M SURE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COFFMAN COUNTY TAXPAYERS AT HEART, BUT WE'RE COFFMAN COUNTY TOO.
WE'RE PROPERTY OWNERS, TAXPAYERS, AND A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES SPEND MOST OF THEIR PAYCHECK HERE IN COFFMAN, EVEN IF THEY DON'T COFFMAN COUNTY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T LIVE HERE.
IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THIS JOB, WHICH KEEPS US AFLOAT, IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THIS JOB FROM ME, PLEASE BE HONEST WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS HERE IN KAUFMAN AND LL AND NEY AND CRALL AND ALL THE OTHER TOWNS, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA FEEL THE PINCH TOO.
I'M NOT THREATENING, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND LIKE WE DID
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BEFORE.I'LL BE FORCED BACK INTO THE OLD REP RU PURCHASING MY GAS IN GROCERIES IN SEVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, AND THAT'LL BE ALL I CAN AFFORD.
KEEP IN MIND THAT PROBABLY MOST OF MY $32,000 SALARY IS SPENT IN COFFIN COUNTY AND MULTIPLY THAT BY MANY OTHERS.
NEXT IS MARK BERMAN FROM CLARK LANE IN
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ROADS AND, UH, DOWN THERE AROUND WHERE I LIVE.
UH, THE ROADS ARE RIDICULOUSLY BAD.
UH, I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MY MONEY ON REPAIRING TIRES.
I MEAN, THERE'S, IT GETS THE WASHBOARD EFFECT ON THE ROADS AND IT JUST SHAKES YOU A BIT JUST ABOUT, UH, THERE'S ALSO A, UH, MUD BOG AND I REALIZE THIS GUY'S MAKING, UH, MONEY ON THE BUSINESS AND EVERYTHING DOWN THERE, BUT ON LAST SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU COULD NOT GET OFF THIS ROAD BECAUSE THERE'S TRAILER AFTER TRAILER, CAR AFTER CAR.
YOU CAN'T GET TWO VEHICLES DOWN THIS ROAD.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN ALMOST BEEN RUN OFF THE ROAD SEVERAL TIMES IN MY OWN PERSONAL VEHICLE COMING HOME TO MY HOUSE.
UH, I'M ALSO CALLING MR. ZALES OFFICE ON A CONSTANT BASIS.
STARTED GETTING THESE
UH, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF EXCUSES.
I, UH, WAS IN THE MILITARY FOR 22 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
ME AND MY FAMILY ARE CONSIDERED AND SELLING OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT GETS DONE IN THE SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED OUT THERE ON THE ROAD.
I MEAN, YOU COME ALONG, YOU PATCH, UH, KIND OF PUT A BANDAID PATCH ON THE ROAD AND IT WORKS FOR A WHILE, BUT THEN IT JUST COMES BACK.
UH, I'M A DISABLED VET AND I CANNOT CHANGE A TIRE, UH, VERY GOOD ANYMORE.
UH, I'VE GOT A BAD LEG AND IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME.
I HAD TO CHANGE TIRES SEVERAL TIMES THERE.
AND, UH, IS THIS COUNTY ROAD ONE 20 AND CLARK LANE IN PRECINCT ONE? AND, UH, THERE'S ALSO A BRIDGE DOWN THERE OFF OF HICKORY TREE THAT THE SCHOOL KIDS WHO THE BUS WILL NOT DRIVE ON THERE ACROSS THERE TO PICK THE SCHOOL KIDS UP BECAUSE THE BRIDGE IS INACCURATE.
THE PARENTS HAVE TO TAKE THEIR KIDS ACROSS THIS, UH, BRIDGE TO DOWN THE ROAD TO, FOR THE BUS TO PICK 'EM UP.
GENERALLY, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE NOW.
I MEAN, I WOULDN'T WANT MY KIDS HAVING TO BE TAKEN DOWN THE ROAD TO GET, CATCH THE BUS TO GO TO SCHOOL.
UH, WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS.
OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
NEXT IS GEORGE HERNANDEZ, UH, FROM SUNNYVALE, I BELIEVE.
I ALSO WANTED TO ADD MY INSIGHT ON THE JAIL PRIVATIZATION AND MY OPINION ON IT.
I'VE BEEN EMPLOYED WITH THE COUNTY FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS.
UH, I'VE BEEN PROUD TO WORK AT THIS COUNTY.
I DON'T FEEL JAILS ARE FOR PROFIT, NOR ARE THE MANAGEMENT OF SOCIETY'S WORST.
I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE COUNTY JAIL TO BE RUN BY PRIVATE COMPANIES.
AS A SOCIETY, OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND THE PEOPLE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR HOW HOUSING AND HAVING FULL CONTROL OVER OUR CRIMINALS, THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY, ELECTED GOVERNMENT, WHO IN TURN MANAGE OUR JAILS AND THESE COUNTIES OFFENDERS.
THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE, WHERE THE COUNTIES PEOPLE HAVE DIRECT OR INDIRECT CONTROL OVER THE PEOPLE NO ONE ELSE WANTS.
JAILS FOR PROFIT SEEMS AND FEELS JUST WRONG.
WHEN A PRIVATE COMPANY IS BEING PAID TO RUN JAILS.
THERE WOULD BE NO MOTIVATION IN ORDER TO EMPTY THEM.
IT WOULD ALL BE FALSE FIGURES.
AND THE MANAGEMENT OF THESE COUNTIES, INMATES, REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY ARE, SHOULD BE DONE RESPONSIBLY, SHOULD BE DONE RESPONSIBLY BY THE LAW AND ORDER OF THE COUNTY.
FURTHERMORE, PRIVATIZING THE COUNTY JAIL AND ITS MANAGEMENT IS ACTIVELY
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DESTRUCTIVE BECAUSE PROFIT SHOULDN'T BE MOTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO COUNTY JAILS.THE REASON FOR JAILS, AND BY ASSOCIATION JAIL MANAGEMENT IS TO HELP SOCIETY DEAL WITH CRIME.
THE COUNTY JAIL SERVES THREE PURPOSES FOR PROTECTING SOCIETY, PUNISHING, WRONGDOERS, AND REHABILITATION.
ANY JAIL MOTIVATED BY PROFIT WILL FAIL AT ALL THREE.
REHABILITATION COSTS MONEY, AND THERE'S NO REASON FOR A JAIL DRIVEN BY PROFIT TO PAY FOR IT.
BY THE SAME TOKEN, THERE'S NO REASON FOR A PROFIT DRIVEN JAIL TO PAY MORE THAN THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM FOR CORRECTION OFFICERS, OR TO ENSURE THAT THE PUNISHMENT ASPECT IS DRIVEN BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHATEVER IS CHEAPEST.
THE COUNTY JUDGE IS TOO IMPORTANT TO TRUST THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY.
NEXT CAR FROM COUNTY ROAD 40 60 AND SKIRTS.
UH, LET ME START BY, UH, I THINK IT'S AN ABSOLUTE JUSTICE IN TRAVESTY.
UH, THE GOOD PEOPLE OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY PUT THE COMMISSIONERS IN OFFICE TO MAKE SOUND DECISIONS ON THEIR BEHALF, BUT IN MY OPINION, THIS IS OUT OF THE REALM OF ORDINARY DECISIONS.
OUR COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ELIMINATE JOBS FOR ALL THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND HAND OVER THE JAIL TO A PRIVATE COMPANY.
BY RANDOM POLL, IT APPEARS CITIZENS IN GENERAL ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 141 JAIL STAFF THAT WILL LOSE THEIR POSITIONS COMPLETELY.
HAVE YOU EVER PAID ATTENTION TO A UNIFORMED OFFICER STANDING IN LINE AT THE GROCERY STORE? SOMEONE'S GONNA ASK THAT JAILER, HEY, YOU KNOW, SO AND SO.
THE COMMISSIONERS ARE MAKING A DECISION ON THIS ENTIRE COUNTY THAT WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO SO MANY.
IF THE JAIL IS TO BE PRIVA PRIVATIZED, THE CITIZENS SHOULD MAKE THAT DECISION.
THE JAILERS ALSO CARE ABOUT THE DETAINEES.
THEY'RE ALSO OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR ACQUAINTANCES, AND DESERVE TO BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY.
SHERIFF BURNS PLACES A HIGHER STANDARD ON WHO HE HIRES IN THAT JAIL.
HE COULD GO OUT AND HE COULD HIRE THESE PEOPLE FOR $8 AN HOUR OR $10 AN HOUR, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? HE WON'T HIRE JUST ANYBODY.
AND I LIKE THAT, FINDING THEM IN THAT JAIL.
I WANNA BE TREATED WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DIGNITY INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY JUST OFF THE ROAD THAT COMES FROM DALLAS COUNTY AND IT'S JUST A JOB TO 'EM.
SHERIFF BURNS AND THE STAFF, WERE IN A TOUGH SPOT, LIMITED TO WHAT COMMISSIONERS WILL PROVIDE TO THEM TO OPERATE THE DETENTION CENTER.
THIS IS WHAT OUR FOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND ONE COUNTY JUDGE ACTING THE CFO ARE FORCING ON THE CITIZENS OF KAMAN COUNTY.
LAST MONTH, THE COMMISSIONERS CUT THE JAILER'S BUDGET BY $1 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH SHERIFF BARNS SUPPOSEDLY HAS A FINAL SAY ON THE PRIVATIZATION, IF HE DOESN'T COOPERATE, THE COMMISSION'S JUST GONNA SLASH HIS BUDGET ANYMORE.
AM I WRONG? WE DON'T NEED NEW COUNTY BARNS, ARMS. WHAT WE NEED ARE CITIZENS THAT ARE EMPLOYED WHERE THEY COULD PUT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.
THE JAILERS HAVEN'T SEEN A RAISE IN OVER FIVE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, THEY GOT A KIND OF A RAISE THAT THEY'VE GOT A FURLOUGH ISSUE AND THEN SOME WAS GIVEN BACK.
WELL, OKAY, NOW WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE SEEN, HAVE SEEN, UM, A RAISE, LLOYD COOKS, LLOYD COOK SAID IT IN HIS, ONE OF HIS LAST PUBLICATION.
PRIVATIZING IS GOOD FOR TRANSPORT SYSTEMS AND SUCH, BUT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A DON'T GO THERE WITH THE JAIL SYSTEM.
OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. PARK FOR BEING HERE.
AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU THAT TOLD THIS IS PURPOSE OF A FREE SOCIETY, OPEN SOCIETY, WHERE PEOPLE ARE, ARE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION, AND WE DON'T TAKE THAT LOUDLY.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, UH, BEING HERE TODAY.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE HAVE, UH, THREE ITEMS. WE HAVE THE, OF THE MINUTES FOR 22ND, 23RD, 24TH, 25TH, 29TH, AND 31ST.
UH, WE HAVE ALSO TO ACCEPT OR DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE 2012 FINANCIAL STATE FOR KAMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE.
AND ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN ADDENDUM TO RFP SIX DASH 13 TO THE LEAD ARTICLE SIX, UH, 6.2 RELATING TO JAIL STAFF.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT ANY OF THOSE DOUBTS?
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I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS, UH, ITEM C AND IN THEM TO DELETE ARTICLE B 1 62 RELATED TO JAIL STAFF IS THAT, UH, I AGREED TO TO BID TO HAVE THE, THE VENDORS BID THE PRIVATIZATION WITHOUT THE JAIL STAFF AND WITH, IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEW STAFF AND KEEPING OUR STAFF THIS TO DELETE THE, KEEPING OUR STAFF FROM ALL THE VENDORS.IS THAT WHAT THAT'S FOR? IT'S NOT THE WAY TO BE WRITTEN.
IT WAS WRITTEN THIS ARTICLE, THIS PARAGRAPH TO, UH, THAT MAKE THE COMPANY TAKE THE ON STAFF.
AND THIS IS FORMING AN ADDENDUM TO GIVE 'EM AN ALTERNATE AND THEY'RE GONNA BID IT OR GIVES THEM THE, THE ABILITY TO BID IT BOTH.
SO THEY'LL BID THEY'LL BID IT BOTH WAYS.
WHICH IS, WHICH IS NOT AN UNCOMMON WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE A FAIR COMPARISON HERE.
WE NEED TO KNOW ALL NUMBERS, RIGHT? IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT GOING TO, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT WAS NOT DELETING.
UH, NO, WHAT I DISCUSSED BEFORE ABOUT KEEPING OUR STAFF, RIGHT.
WELL, IT GIVES 'EM AN ALTERNATE.
THEY'RE GONNA BID IT BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? SO WE'LL HAVE FAIR, I WE OWE TO OUR CITIZENS AND OUR TAXPAYERS TO HAVE THE CORRECT NUMBERS TO, TO HAVE A, UM, ACCURATE COMPARISON.
MAY I, MAY I READ, I'VE GIVEN YOU A HANDOUT JUST SO YOU WILL HAVE IT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE, SO WE MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU LOOK, FIRST PAGE 6.2 JAIL STAFF.
THIS IS THE, UH, RFP THAT WENT OUT, UH, UH, WHAT, THREE WEEKS AGO OR SO NOW, TWO WEEKS AGO.
IT SAYS JAIL STAFF HAS PART, AND THIS IS IN THE, UH, PART THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DELETING AS PART OF THE TRANSITION PERIOD, THE CONTRACTOR AGREES TO HIRE CURRENT JAIL STAFF AT CURRENT SALARIES.
CONTRACTOR ALSO AGREES TO FURNISH EXISTING STAFF WITH EMPLOYEE BENEFITS SIMILAR TO THAT OF CURRENT EMPLOYEES.
STAFFING REQUIREMENTS SHALL REMAIN ENFORCE FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD, ALL TERMINATIONS AND THE TERM AND DEMOTIONS MUST HAVE PRIOR APPROVAL OF THE COFFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF JACK, UH, YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF THE RFP THAT, UH, WENT OUT.
IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT THE, UH, DELETION OF THIS, UH, OBJECTION.
THE THING I'LL SAY IS, IS THE, UH, WHEN I PUT OUT A BID, IT'S, IT'S, UH, PUT OUT FOR THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH OF COURSE CAN BE SHERIFF BURNS.
UH, I ALWAYS VIEW THAT AS THE DEPARTMENT OR THE, THE END USER IS THE EXPERT, AND THAT'S WHAT I BASE.
ANYTHING I DO OR BID I WAS DIRECTED TO, UH, THEIR DESIRE WAS TO, AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S IN THERE.
IF THE COURT DIRECTS ME TO CHANGE IT, I'LL DO SO.
UH, BUT IT HAVE TO, THE COURT HAVE TO DIRECT ME DO THAT BECAUSE I PUTTING OUT A BID FOR THE END USER, THE EXPERT, AND THIS, SO THE COURT RESTATED TO CHANGE IT, I'LL DO THAT.
BUT, UH, THAT DEFINITELY WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA DO.
SHERIFF, WOULD YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR BASED ON LEGAL ADVICE? I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY ON THE COURT IDEA? WILL THIS, WILL THIS PRECLUDE JACK THE VENDORS FROM ADMITTING BOTH WAYS? IF WE JUST OMIT IT? IF YOU OMI, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY CAN'T DO IT, BUT ONE WAY, I I DON'T THINK IT WOULD PRECLUDE EITHER WAY.
I THINK IT MAY PRECLUDE IN THE WARRANT BEING MEANING THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE IT.
NO, I MEAN, I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SHERIFF HAS A FINAL SAY ON, ON THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S CLEAR IN THE LAW.
AND, UH, HE MAY, I, I SPEAK FOR THE SHERIFF.
HE MAY CHOOSE NOT TO AWARD BASED ON THAT.
UH, I THINK IN GOOD FAITH I PUT OUT A BID THAT, UH, WAS MODELED AFTER A, AFTER ANOTHER COUNTY THAT THEY LIKED THAT MODEL.
BUT WHEN VIEWING OTHER, OTHER BIDS, UH, I I WILL SAY PUT SPOT, I SAY THAT I HAVE A POINTY HERE THAT I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE SON WOULD APPLY AT A, AT ANOTHER ENTITY AT COLMAN COUNTY AND A LOCAL, UH, ANOTHER COUNTY JAIL AND, AND SALARIES HERE WERE MUCH LOWER.
I'LL GO ALONG WITH THE LADY BEFORE ME.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT THE EMPLOYEES HAVEN'T HAD A RAISE FIVE, SIX YEARS.
SO I DUNNO THAT THE SALARIES ARE OUTTA, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
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THANK YOU JAMES.BUT, UH, DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE COURT? NO, I JUST THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WE CAN LET HIM BID IT BOTH WAYS.
ARE YOU WANTING ROLL THAT? YES.
THE APPROVAL OF THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO, UH, THE MOTION CARRIES, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO HEAR FROM STEVEY DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, UH, BETWEEN TRINITY VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN TON COUNTY FOR PROVIDING, UH, SG TRAINING.
JOHN IS NOT HERE THIS MORNING, UH, JOHN LONG.
HE IS IN A DEPOSITION IN DALLAS AND IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
AND HE GAVE US, UH, WRITTEN LANGUAGE.
I BELIEVE THAT I HAVE WRITTEN INFORMATION THAT I GAVE TO YOU, UH, UH, EARLIER AND, UH, ABOUT THE MIGHT, UH, CHANGE A FEW WORDS IN THE CONTRACT, BUT, UH, WHAT, UH, STEVE, UH, TELL US WHAT, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS.
ESSENTIALLY THIS IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING SO THAT, UH, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH PROVIDING THE TRAINING TO THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY, WHICH ARE SCHEDULED FOR THIS COMING SATURDAY, THE 17TH.
AND, UH, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE SO THAT IT TAKES CARE OF BOTH THE COLLEGE AND US AND THEY'RE GONNA BE TAKING CARE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF IT, THE, ALL THE PAPERWORK AND THE CERTIFICATES AND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING TRACK OF THEIR EDUCATION.
SO IT CAN BE PROVEN SHOULD ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION.
THAT'S WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES FOR THE TRAINING TO BE OFFERED.
THIS IS A BIG PLUS FOR OUR ESDS BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE TO GO TO AUSTIN OR WHEREVER TO HAVE THE TRAINING.
AND I KNOW STEVE HAS WORKED WITH, AND I DUNNO THERE'S ANYONE HERE FROM OR NOT, BUT I KNOW THERE THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL THIS TOGETHER.
I SUGGESTED TO STEVE THAT WE SHOULD START, HAVE SOME SORT OF MEMORANDUM, UH, FOR THE COURT RECORD AND HAVING THIS AGREEMENT DONE.
SO THE TRAINING IS ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR THIS SATURDAY AND IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, IT'LL BE, BE HELD OUT THERE, THE ARMY IN, UH, TRAINING ROOM.
AND, UH, WE'VE ALREADY GOT SEVERAL OF THE ESDS ALREADY ON BOARD, UH, GETTING SIGNED UP NOW AND, UH, DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THIS POSITIVE FOR THEM.
I FEEL LIKE THIS FIRST ONE WILL BE A LITTLE ROUGH AS WE'RE SPREADING NEW FRESH GROUND, BUT I THINK IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS AS WE PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER, IT'S GONNA BENEFIT NOT ONLY THE ESDS, BUT THE COUNTY AS WELL.
UH, WELL I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE APPROVE THIS SUBJECT TO THE REVISIONS THAT JOHN HAS SUGGESTED.
UH, GUYS, YOU MIGHT CONTACT YOUR SD BOARD MEMBERS.
JUST LET THEM KNOW OF THE AVAILABILITY, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR SEVERAL OF OUR SD DISTRICTS WHERE THEY DIDN'T, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TAKE OFF SINCE THEY OFF SATURDAY.
WHAT TIME? IT'LL START AT 8:00 AM AND WE'LL GO TO 5:00 PM IT'S ACTUALLY EIGHT HOURS, WHICH IS TWO MORE THAN IS REQUIRED, BUT IT'LL GET 'EM EVERYTHING THEY NEED FOR TWO YEARS.
WHAT'S THE LOCATION ON THAT? IT'D BE 2125 SOUTH HOUSTON.
AND ARTICLE FOUR OF THIS DOCUMENT SAYS TVCC AGREES AND IS BOUND TO HOLD A ISD.
SHOULD THAT READ THE ESD OR PPLICANT COUNTY? THIS IS PROBABLY AN AGREEMENT THEY JUST COPIED FROM, UH, WORK THEY DO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
ALRIGHT, OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE FEES? IF THE FEES ARE $10 AND THAT COVERS, YOU KNOW, THEIR TIME AND MATERIALS TO, YOU KNOW, DO THE REGISTRATION, YOU KNOW, KEEP ALL THE RECORDS AND EVERYTHING.
SO, AND THAT GOES TO TVCC? YES, SIR.
YEAH, IT DOESN'T GO TO THE COUNTY.
IT'S THE COUNTY FOR TTVC FOR DOING THE RECORD KEEPING, THE TRANSCRIPTS AND ALL THAT.
AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PRICE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SDS TO DO THE ONLINE CLASSES, IT'S $35 PER HOUR OF ONLINE INSTRUCTION AND THAT'S UNREALISTIC.
SO THE, UH, WILL THERE BE OTHER COUNT OUTSIDE COUNTIES AT THIS POINT,
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OR DO YOU NOT AT THIS ONE.UH, IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE IT KNOWN TO THE OTHER COUNTIES AROUND US AND TB C'S OKAY WITH THAT.
AND, UH, THEY MAY EVEN EXPAND THIS SO THAT IT'S DONE IN OTHER COUNTIES.
WELL, THEY GIVE THE ESDS ANOTHER OPTION AND THAT ONE GROUP THAT PRETTY WELL, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS AND THEY HAVE JOBS AND WAS HARD FOR THEM TO GET AWAY.
I WENT TO THAT CLASS, THE ONLINE CLASS, AND YOU COULDN'T, THE VIDEO, THE VIDEO WAS HORRIBLE.
THE AUDIO WAS HORRIBLE AND THEY WERE PAYING 30 BUCKS A CLASS FOR THAT, AND IT JUST, YOU COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WHERE THOSE GUYS CAN SIT THERE AND LISTEN TO IT AND UNDERSTAND IT, KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND GET IT DONE.
AND THAT, AND THEY, THEY WANT TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE WE'RE IN CHARGE OF TOWN ON THIS.
SO I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN TRINITY VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND CAMAN COUNTY.
A MOTION FOR SECOND BEFORE WE GOT IT DONE.
UH, MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING AND A SECOND FROM YOU.
UH, MR. ROSA, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION STATE HAVE YOU COMMUNICATED, UH, TO THE ESD THAT THIS IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE? I'VE SENT IT OUT TO ALL THE ESD MEMBERS THAT I HAVE EMAILS FOR.
I'VE SENT IT OUT TO THE FIRE CHIEF SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE EMAILS, THEY CAN GET IT TO THEM AND, UH, I'VE POSTED IT ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FACEBOOK PAGE.
AND OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
WELL, IT'S WHY, BUT I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU'VE KIND OF BEEN TALKING WITH 'EM ABOUT, I I PROMPTED THEM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A MONTH AGO THAT IT WAS COMING.
AND IF WE DON'T GET 'EM ALL THIS TIME, WE NEED TO GET SOME OF THIS DONE BECAUSE THE DEADLINES APPROACHING ON THE DEADLINE THAT Y'ALL SET IS SEPTEMBER 1ST, I BELIEVE.
SO THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET ALL THIS WORKED OUT AND GET THE APPROVAL THAT'S REQUIRED UNDER LAW WAS, WAS NOT AN EASY THING.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY EVERYTHING'S GOTTEN CRUNCHED UP HERE AT THE END.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO ANOTHER ONE LATER THIS FALL IF WE HAVE TO.
ARE YOU GONNA MAKE THAT, UM, SUBJECT TO THE REVISIONS MADE BY THE DISTRICT? YES.
SUBJECT TO THE REVISIONS RECOMMENDED BY, OKAY.
SECOND ON THE FLOOR AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION.
STEVE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
GET THE CURRICULUM PREPARED AS WELL AS THE, UH, UH, THE ACTUAL THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE I'VE NEVER WRITTEN THE CURRICULUM IN MY LIFE.
WELL, I HAVE, I WISH I HAD IT
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE PRESENTATION OF THE 20 TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT.
AND ON AGENDA, WE HAVE SOME RECORDS HERE FROM, UH, NEY CITY OF NEY.
SO RAY, YOU WANT KIND OF INTRODUCE, UH, YEAH, THIS IS KIM, BUT FROM FLORIDA A DC.
WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, AND I THINK THE STATUTE REQUIRES THE PRESENT MADE TO THE COURT PRIOR.
THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY.
AND SO ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE ABOUT THAT, UH, CAN WE REDUCE THE GENTLEMAN HERE FROM KYLE FAMILY THAT, UH, THIS, I'M ASSUMING THE EXPERT ON THIS? ABSOLUTELY.
GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THIS ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, I CAME UP HERE FOR JUST A THREE MINUTE QUICK OVERVIEW.
A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I, I DID GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL MORNING.
THEY DID APPROVE A CONTRACT TO BUILD THIS TURS, A CONTRACT WITH FINLEY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING BILL OGLE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW ON PUTTING TOGETHER THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A KNEE JERK REACTION TO ANYTHING.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL UH, TURN IT OVER TO THE EXPERT BILL
UM, THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO, TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND TO DISCUSS THIS.
UM, WE WORKED ON THE, UH, FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE CITY OF 2020 EDC, UM, TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER A TAX, UH, INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE FOR THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA.
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295 ACRES, 424 SEPARATE PARCEL, UH, FOR THE, UH, PURPOSE OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT AS WELL AS, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, UM, PROJECTS WITHIN THE AREA.UM, WE ARE NOW, UH, HAVE, AS KIM SAID, WE'RE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE.
UH, THE FEASIBILITY WAS, WAS ACCEPTED AND, AND, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE CITY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE, UM, LOOKING IN THE FEE FEASIBILITY, UM, PROJECT.
WE'VE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, ABOUT $19.5 MILLION IN PROJECTS THAT WOULD, WOULD RESULT FROM, UM, THE PROJECT OR FROM THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.
UH, THE CURRENT ASSESSED VALUE IS ABOUT $70 MILLION OF THIS, UH, THIS ACREAGE.
AND, UH, WE ARE PROJECTING THAT AFTER ABOUT 10 YEARS, THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $135 MILLION AND ONWARDS UP TO 40 YEARS TO ABOUT $360 MILLION.
UM, THE, UH, CITY HAS COMMITTED TO A 75%, UH, PARTICIPATION OF, OF THE, UH, VOL M UM, PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE AREA WITHIN THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.
UM, AND THEY HAVE ASKED THAT THE, UH, COUNTY PARTICIPATE AT, AT AT LEAST SAVED 50%, UH, PARTICIPATION.
UM, AND WHAT WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN FROM THAT IS FROM A 50 50%, UM, AFTER ABOUT 10 YEARS WITH THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE ABOUT $178,000, UH, A YEAR THAT, THAT, UH, WILL BE, UM, IN ADDITION TO, UM, WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY, UM, THE TAXES THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY COLLECTED FROM THAT, FROM THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND THAT WILL GO UP TO A 40 YEAR, ABOUT $816,000 PER YEAR.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE COUNTY LOAN.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES, PLEASE.
IS THAT GENERAL FUND TAXES, ARE IT ALSO INCLUDE THE INTEREST SINK AND BONDED DEBT WE HAVE OKAY.
AS WELL AS THE ROAD RIDGE TAX THAT WE LIVE IN AS WELL? OR IS IT JUST THE GENERAL FUND? UM, THIS, THE NUMBERS THAT I'M QUOTING YOU IS 50% FROM THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE, ALL THREE OF THOSE.
HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE 50% OF JUST THE, THE GENERAL FUND, UM, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY, UM, AN OPTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
UM, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE PRESENTED THAT AS WELL TO THE, TO THE CITY, BUT THE NUMBER THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN FRONT OF YOU IS 50% OF THE ENTIRE, THE TOTAL.
UM, WHY, UH, WE THINK THAT IT, UH, IT MAKES SENSE TO INVEST IN THIS IS, UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT A DO NOTHING OPTION.
WELL, LET'S ASSUME HISTORICALLY WHAT, WHAT IS THE ASSESS VALUE INCREASE OVER THE AREA? UM, AND THEN COMPARE THAT WITH OUR PROJECTIONS.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT, AT BOTH OF THOSE, UM, AND YOU COMPARE THE TWO, UM, YOU'LL BE END UP, YOU'LL END UP MAKING, UM, ABOUT 9,000 MORE YEAR BY ENTERING INTO, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE TAX INCOME REINVESTMENT ZONE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SIMPLY DUE TO THE, UH, FACT THAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE DONE, UM, WITHIN THE AREA, UM, CAUSING THE, UH, OR ALLOWING THE ASSESS VALUES TO BE INCREASED AND OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT WOULDN'T OCCUR WITHOUT THOSE, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND, UH, AND THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO YEAR 40, WHICH IS ABOUT 340,000 A YEAR.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE, AT THE END OF THE TOUR, UH, WE PREDICTED ABOUT $1.6 MILLION, UH, COULD BE ADDED TO YOUR TAX.
UM, AS WE MENTIONED, 50% IS WHAT, UM, WE HAVE IN OUR FEASIBILITY IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN, IN OTHER PROJECTS, UM, IN THE AREA.
AND HOWEVER, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, AND WE WOULD AND THE CITY WOULD, WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER TO BE EQUAL PARTNERS IN A 75%.
AND IN THAT CASE, THAT WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL $3 MILLION, UH, TO THE PROJECTS POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
UM, WHICH THEY, UM, WE ARE WILLING TO ADD UP A $3 MILLION PROJECT UP TO THE COUNTY'S, UM, DISCRETION ON THE, THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WOULD FIT INTO THAT, UH, INTO THE PROJECT PLAN.
WHERE IS THAT MENTION HERE? UM, THAT PAGE SCENARIO 1, 2, 3.
THAT SCENARIO THREE IS WHAT I, WHAT I JUST MENTIONED TO YOU ABOUT A 75%.
UH, WE THINK SCENARIO TWO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS KIND OF THE MINIMUM OF WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD, WOULD LIKE AND WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IN THE CITY OF FORNEY.
UM, BUT SCENARIO THREE IS, UM, IF, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE WOULD CERTAINLY, UM, ASK THE, THE, UH, COUNTY TO CONSIDER.
AND THEN BACK TO, UM, TODAY JUST WE'RE SIMPLY BRINGING THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, WE, THE WAY THAT OUR SCHEDULE IS, IS PLANNED RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE NOW FINALIZING THE FINANCE
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PLAN AND THE PROJECT PLAN.UM, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UM, WE WILL THEN, UH, PRESENT TO YOU OR WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND PRESENT TO YOU, UM, PROBABLY IN LATE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER FOR CONSIDERATION TO PASS THIS, UM, TO ACCEPT THE, UM, AND DETERMINE THE, THE, THE PARTICIPATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO IN.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, UM, FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE TAX, TAX INCOME.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, BETWEEN THE 50%, 75% COUNTY PARTICIPATION, UH, WHAT DOES THE COUNTY GET THERE? 25% FOR THE ADDITIONAL 25%, WE PREDICT THAT ABOUT A $3 MILLION, UM, WOULD BE ADDITIONAL, UM, IN IN NET PRESENT VALUE TO THE FUND.
UM, AND SO THE, THE, THE EDC AND THE CITY, WE, WE WOULD UH, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN A $3 MILLION PROJECT UP TO THE, FROM THE COUNTY'S, UM, DISCRETION TO BE USED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR PROJECT, UM, WITH THE, THE ANNEXES DOWN THERE OR ANYTHING THAT, THAT YOU, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE UP TO A $3 MILLION PROJECT, UM, 'CAUSE WE SEE, WE SEE THAT AS, AS HELPING THE OVERALL DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ADDITIONAL 0.5% FROM, FROM YOUR STANDPOINT.
SO WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO, UH, INVEST IN THAT AND GET SOMETHING OUTTA THAT.
AND WITH THE SCENARIO ONE, THE COUNTY WOULD NOT GET THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, CORRECT.
AND ACTUALLY SCENARIO ONE IS KIND OF IS OUT OF THE PICTURE HERE BECAUSE UH, THE CITY HAS ELECTED TWO PARTICIPATE A 75% AND NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EITHER SCENARIO TWO OR SCENARIO THREE.
IT'S THE CITY OF FORNEY LIMITING JUST THEIR GENERAL FUND OR ARE THEY DOING IT ON THEIR IS AS WELL? UM, THEY'RE DOING A A ACROSS THE BOARD.
I'D LIKE TO COMMENT PLEASE ON THAT QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER AL THAT, UH, WILL, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT PLAN WILL STILL BE IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE ROADS AND BEAUTIFICATION IN ALL THE AREA AROUND THE SUB COURT HOUSE.
SO THAT'S A GIVEN IN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT LIST, BUT, AND ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL 25%, YOU'RE HOPING WE CAN OPEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS THERE IF, IF NEEDED FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU, WE'VE GOT A TEMPLATE ALREADY IN PLACE WITH OUR TWO PREVIOUS TESTS, YOU KNOW, THAT NOT ADDRESS OR ADDRESS THE FACT THAT WE DON'T USE ANY ROAD BRIDGE FUNDS OR IS FUNDS AND I'M SURE WE WOULD WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THAT.
WE'VE DONE YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE AREA WE NEED THE HOTEL CAN, SO, OKAY.
WELL THAT'S, UM, UNDERSTANDABLE.
AND THEN IS, IS THERE A WAY TO CONTRACTUALLY GUARANTEE IF WE WANT THE 75% OUT THAT WE COULD GET A, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY WANTED IN DOWNTOWN, UM, IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CHURCH PROJECT PLAN, UM, AND WE WOULD, UH, UM, HAVE A, A REPRESENTATION FROM, FROM THE COUNTY ON THE CHURCH FORCE, UM, AS, AS, AS YOU KNOW, UM, AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I NEED TO, I NEED TO TALK TO AN ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S, THAT YOU CAN ENTER INTO A CONTRACT THAT, THAT COULD FACILITATE THAT, BUT THE WAY IT TYPICALLY GOES IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE JURORS BOARD WOULD APPROVE THE, THE, THE PROJECT PLAN AND TO DEVIATE FROM THAT PROJECT PLAN, UM, WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE JUROR BOARD TO, TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND ACTUALITY THE CHURCH BOARD IS CONTROLLED BY THE CITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE APPOINTEES ON THE CHURCH BOARD.
SO THE COUNTY REALLY HAS NO, UH, REALLY PULL TO GET ANYTHING CHANGED YEAH.
THAT'S WHY I WONDER IF THERE, I HAVEN'T DONE, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, BUT I'M, I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
UM, I MEAN IT SOUNDS VERY REASONABLE, UM, BUT WE WOULD NEED TO TALK TO, UM, OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND UM, SEE, SEE IF THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I TRUST THESE GUYS DON'T.
ANOTHER POINT IS THE PROJECT WITH, I DUNNO ABOUT THAT.
SO THE COUNTY PROJECT, OF COURSE COULD BE INSERTED IN THAT PRIORITY ORDER AS, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATED OR AS DEEMED FEASIBLE.
AND THEN LIKE BILL SAID, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT, MAKING THAT HAPPEN LEGALLY.
AND AND THERE'S A, THERE'S ALSO SOME REASONING BEHIND THE PROJECT ORDER TOO.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST CAN'T WILLY-NILLY PUT SOMETHING AT THE TOP OF THE, OF THE LIST BECAUSE, UM, OUR PROJECTIONS AND HOW WE PROCEED DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR, UM, IS BASED OFF OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING.
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PROJECTS ARE INSERTED NEAR THE TOP, THEN IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LESS LIKELY THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT COULD OCCUR IN CERTAIN AREAS AND SO THE PROJECTIONS COULD CHANGE KIND OF TIMEFRAME.ARE YOU ON, YOU SAID OCTOBER OR? YES.
UH, WE WOULD BE COMING BACK TO YOU IN PROBABLY LATE OCTOBER AND SO WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO BRING THIS UP FOR YOU JUST SO THAT WE DON'T SHOCK YOU IN OCTOBER.
GENERALLY, I'M, YOU KNOW, IN FAVOR OF THINGS THAT WILL MAKE OUR COUNTY BETTER AND THAT IS CERTAIN INCLUDES OUR, OUR CITIES.
I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A NEW GROUND FOR US.
SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO, TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WHAT DOING, SO WE APPRECIATE YOU UPDATED INFORMATION AND WE, WE WILL UPDATE IT BASED OFF OF THE ROADING BRIDGE AND I AND UH, TAKEN OUT.
AND THEN, UH, WE WILL, WE'LL SEND YOU THE UPDATED NUMBER PROJECTIONS.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW CHANGES BEEN MADE BY LEGISLATURE I THINK IN 2011 SINCE, SINCE WE CREATED OUR FIRST TWO.
AND TIFFANY TURNER IS THE SAME THING.
BASICALLY WHY THEY CALLED, THEY CHANGED THE NAME IN 2011, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, IT IS, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN BEEN CALLED A HERS FOR A WHILE, BUT UM, IT
TAX INCREMENT FINANCE, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IS THE, UM, IS THE ACTUAL PROCESS OR THE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THE TURS IS THE TOOL TO DO IT.
THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT, THAT'S HOW YOU DO TAX IMPROVEMENT FINANCING.
HOW MANY TURS DO WE HAVE ACROSS THE STATE? OH MY GOODNESS.
UM, YEAH, I CAN'T EVEN, WE WE HAVE BEEN PRETTY ACTIVE, PRETTY COMMON.
AND, AND THEY ARE ALL OVER, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
UM, EVERY, EVERY STATE HAS, UM, A STATE STATUTE THAT, THAT THEY UTILIZE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
UM, IT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 1960S IS WHEN CALIFORNIA FIRST HAD THEIR, THEIR FIRST STATE STATUTE.
UM, AND TEXAS HAS BEEN DOING IT FOR AT LEAST A GOOD 20 YEARS.
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU HAVE TO MAKE PRESENTATIONS UNLESS THEY CHANGE THAT MODEL.
YOU HAVE MAKE THESE PRESENTATIONS TO ALL TAXING ENTITIES OR ARE PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY HEAR THE TAXING YES.
ALL IP WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN INTO IT, BUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO SEND A LETTER SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
UH, WE, WE HAVE TO PRESENT IT TO, UM, TAX ALL THE TAX ENTITIES THAT WE ARE ASKING TO, TO BE TO PAST DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T, NOBODY WAS INCLUDED, THE USBS AND THERE OUR TAX EMERGENCY SERVICE INDUSTRIES AND THERE ARE TAX ENTITIES THEY NEED TO BE ADVISED.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO NOTIFY ALL TAX ENTITIES REGARDLESS OF THEIR REPUTATION? I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS READ.
BUT YOU GUYS EXPERT, I, SINCE TRINITY VALLEY THAT COLLECT ANY TAXES OVER THERE, THEY WOULD NOT BE, BUT IT MIGHT BE.
THEY WOULDN'T BE IN THE CURRENT COURT.
I THINK EVERYBODY HAS TO BE NOTIFIED THAT THERE'S SOMETHING'S GOING ON, WHETHER YOU MAKE A PRESENTATION OR NOT.
I THINK IT, YEAH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE NOT LISTEN TO IT.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT ANYWAY, SO.
AND, AND WE YOU'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO, TO TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AS WELL AND INVITE THEM, UM, AS WELL.
UM, I THINK THE, WE DON'T HAVE IT SCHEDULED JUST YET, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IN OCTOBER.
UM, AND YOU, YOU WILL GET NOTICE OF THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THE STATUTE THAT SAYS, UH, UH, THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE STATE SENATORS IS ON THE BOARD.
IS THAT IN READING OF THAT, OF COURSE I DID THE SPEED READING ON, ON THE WEEKEND, WHICH IS WHY THEY WANT TO SLEEP ON IT.
IS THAT JUST FOR A CERTAIN TIP THAT'S CREATED BY FICTITIOUS? UH, NOT BY WHERE WE'RE GOING.
YEAH, IT'S A DIFFERENT, IT'S A CERTAIN, IT'S IT'S CREATED BY THE, UM, BY PETITION, I BELIEVE.
I NEED TO, I NEED TO UPDATE MYSELF ON THAT PARTICULAR, BUT IT'S NOT, IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE, THE TYPE OF ERROR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT AUTOMATICALLY ON BOARD WITH THEM.
SO WE'LL WE DECIDE TODAY WHETHER WE SCENARIO NO, WE DON'T DECIDE.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS HERE FOR DISCUSSION TODAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
DO Y HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PURPOSE OF THIS OR THE BACKGROUND? ANYTHING? I, NEXT TIME WE COME TO YOU WE'LL BE ASKING FOR AN AGREEMENT.
SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ALSO ANY ONE OF YOU FEEL FREE TO CALL MY OFFICE ANYTIME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO VISIT WITH YOU, BUT WE'LL HAVE A PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCE PLAN YES.
AND THIS, THIS HAS TO BE, UH, APPROVED BY THE CITY FIRST.
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PERFECTLY CLEAR.THE COUNTY TAX MONEY DOES NOT DECREASE PRESENTLY.
AND BUT ITFERS THE TAX, THE FUTURE TAXES.
AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR, WE GET DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT GETTING TAX MONEY FOR IT FOR WHICHEVER PERIOD OF TIME.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE, YOU WOULD NOT BE LOSING ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
IT ENABLES Y'ALL TO DEVELOP AND, AND INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND DEPENDING ON THE SCENARIO YOU CHOOSE, YOU WOULD GAIN 50% OR 25% DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU CHOOSE, RIGHT.
AND THEN WHEN THE, WHEN THE TUR THE CHURCH HAS AN END DATE, WHEN THE CHURCH IS OVER, THEN THE FULL HUNDRED PERCENT GOES TO YOU, GOES BACK, WHICH IS WHEN IT'S PAYDAY.
I THINK, I DON'T ASK THIS, BUT WHY DID I, WOULD THE CITY BE INTERESTED IN, WOULD CONTRIBUTING PARDON THE SALES TAX INCREMENT? UH, TO, TO REDUCE THE, ANY DATE OF THE, OF THE TIP RETURNS, TO BE QUITE HONEST, THE SALES TAX INCREMENT.
WE REALLY NEED THAT TO NEGOTIATE WITH DEVELOPERS THAT WE NEED THAT TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO MAKE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS HAPPEN.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSION ON IT.
IT WOULD ACCELERATE THINGS, BUT I I ANTICIPATE THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME HEAVY NEGOTIATION TO GET SOME REDEVELOPMENT DONE DOWN THERE BECAUSE THE KNOW HOW REDEVELOPMENT IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'LL NEED TO BE PREPARED TO EXTEND THEM, BUT I WON'T SAY THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT.
YOU MENTIONED PROJECTED DEVELOPMENT FIGURES.
WHERE DO THOSE PROJECTIONS COME FROM? GOOD QUESTION.
UM, WE, UH, WENT THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES, ALL 242.
UM, WE LOOKED AT THAT, UM, COMPARED TO THE, UH, THE CURRENT ZONING OF, OF 40, WE, WE, UH, HAD, UM, MEETINGS WITH, UM, WITH, WITH, WITH REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS AS WELL AS WITH, UM, THE, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, BLANK.
UH, WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH, WITH REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS.
AND THEN WHAT, WHAT WE DID WAS THEY HELPED US, UM, PUT A PRIORITY RATING ON EACH OF THE PROPERTIES.
SO THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE KEY QUARTERS, THE MOST LIKELY TO HAPPEN, UM, SAY THEY GOT A, UH, HIGHER PERCENTAGE PROBABILITY THAT THEY WOULD DEVELOP AND, UM, AND A SHORTER TIME PERIOD THAT THEY WOULD DEVELOP.
SO WE WENT THROUGH EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, VERY SCIENTIFIC METHOD OF, OF, OF ESTIMATING HOW EACH OF THESE, UM, PROPERTIES WOULD, WOULD DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN BASICALLY TOOK THAT, YEAH, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE EIGHT, UM, IT SHOWED THE NUMBER OF PARCELS AND THEN, UM, TALKS ABOUT THE ZONING AND HOW MUCH ESTIMATED VALUE.
A LOT OF THESE, UM, ARE RESIDENTIAL THAT ARE LOCATED IN COMMERCIAL ZONES THAT ONCE THEY, UH, UM, ARE REDEVELOPED, THEY WOULD, UM, INCREASE IN, IN VALUE.
SO, SO THESE ARE BASICALLY YOUR PROJECTIONS, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, ARE BASED ON, UH, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS FROM FORNEY AND DALLAS AND THE DALLAS AREA.
WHICH IS, THAT'S JUST AN OPINION.
THEY SAY, WELL, IT'S MY OPINION SUCH AND SUCH MOVE IN AND SUCH AND SUCH GONNA MOVE IN AND SUCH AND SUCH IS GONNA FOLLOW THEM.
SO THAT'S JUST BASICALLY AN EDUCATED GUESS.
I MEAN, IF I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN 30 YEARS FROM NOW THAT, I MEAN, IN LAS VEGAS, NO.
UM, YEAH, IT IS, IT IS, UH, AN EDUCATED PROJECTION AND THEN WE STAY ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE.
WE ALWAYS DROP EVERYTHING DOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, A PERCENTAGE, I'M, I'M A FORMER DEVELOPER AND I LOOKED AT A PROJECT AS IF I WAS GONNA DEVELOP THAT, THAT PARTICULAR PART PROJECT.
AND, UM, SO I AM ALWAYS LIKE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE OF, OF THINGS, THE WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THESE PROJECTS TO ALL OCCUR.
AND, AND REALLY MY, MY MY OPINION IS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE THAN $19.5 MILLION TO, TO DO POTENTIAL PROJECTS IN THIS.
BUT, UM, THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO HAPPEN IS WE, WE START MOVING FORWARD AND THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE CAN'T DO BECAUSE THE MONEY'S NOT THERE.
UM, SO WE STAY ON, WE HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED AND, AND WE'VE STAYED ON AN EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE BASIS.
AND, UM, AND WE HAVE SPREADSHEETS.
I CAN SHOW YOU, UM, EXACTLY HOW, HOW WE DID IT, BUT IT WAS A, A, A VERY TIME CONSUMING, A VERY COMPLEX METHOD OF, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ARE RIGHT.
IS THERE ANY HISTORY, UH, PERCENTAGE WISE ON
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THESE PROJECTIONS YES.WERE, WERE THEIR PROJECTIONS ACCURATE OR? UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS THAT I'VE WORKED ON, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONSERVATIVE.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER PROJECTIONS THAT THEY'VE, THAT THEY'VE DONE.
UM, BUT ON THE PROJECTS THAT I'VE WORKED ON THROUGHOUT THE STATE, UM, WE'VE ALWAYS, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD COME IN, HIRED FROM WHAT, WHAT WE PREDICTED.
THE KEY, THE HARD PART IS THE TIMING OF IT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HIT A LITTLE LOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING 40 YEARS, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME BEEN THIS 40 YEARS.
YEAH, NO, BUT I MEAN, IS THERE ANY HISTORY STATEWIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, PERCENTAGE WISE THAT SAY, WELL THIS, THERE PROJECTIONS HAVE BEEN 50% CORRECT.
OR 40% OR, UM, NOT THAT I, NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
UM, I, I, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU THOUGH, BUT I, I'VE NEVER SEEN SEEN THAT, THAT HISTORY, THE BOARD THAT YOU SAID ON PROJECTIONS, NOT SAYING THAT WAS BAD, THAT THE BOARD DID OR THE TOOK THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN'T, CAN'T PREDICT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE HARD PART ABOUT IT IS, AND LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL FAIRLY, FAIRLY GOOD THAT WE'RE ON THE SERVICE SIDE, OVERALL NUMBERS AND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT, THAN WHAT WHAT WE SHOW.
WE'RE HOPING THAT AT 5, 10, 20 YEARS WE'RE, WE'RE HITTING ABOUT WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND THERE'S GONNA BE CYCLES UP AND DOWN.
UM, AND WE HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
UM, WOULD IT BE ALL, IF I GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE? OKAY, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION PURCHASED PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN FROM AN ABSENTEE LANDLORD WHO WAS READY TO, TO GET RID OF THAT HEADACHE, I GUESS.
AND WE WERE ING THE BUILDINGS AND OF COURSE BEING A NON-TAX ENTITY, WE WEREN'T PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON THAT BUILDING.
WELL, WHEN WE PURCHASED THE BUILDINGS, WE HAVE SINCE TURNED ONE OF THEM INTO A RETAIL BUSINESS TO HELP SPUR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION.
HE'S BEEN THERE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF BECAUSE WE HAVE A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS LEASING THAT BUILDING.
WE'RE NOW PAYING THE PROPERTY TAXES ON THAT BUILDING.
WE HAVE THREE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO CONVERT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOWN IN THE CORE OF DOWNTOWN.
AND THIS OF COURSE, IS TO IGNITE THAT AS A DESTINATION.
THOSE ARE THE SMALL INCREMENTS.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, HIS PROPERTY VALUE, THE PROPERTY VALUE, THAT BUILDING, WHEN WE REFURBISHED IT WENT FROM LIKE 160,000 TO 240,000.
SO THERE'S YOUR SMALL NEW INCREMENTAL VALUE.
BUT WHAT'S MIXED IN THIS MAP AS WELL IS, UH, RATHER SIGNIFICANT PARCELS OF LAND, RIGHT ON THE FREEWAY, RIGHT AT HIGHWAY 80, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE TOP OF THE MAP HERE, THERE'S A 27 ACRE PARCEL RIGHT AT THE BROAD STREET EXIT AND HIGHWAY 80.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST RAW LAND.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RANKED HIGHER THAT ONCE DEVELOPMENT GOES THERE, WHICH GIVEN THE GROWTH RATE OF 20, THAT'S A PRETTY COMMON PIECE OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IT'LL GET DEVELOPED IN THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY GET THE MUSCLE FROM THE TURS.
AND SO THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO EXTREMES OF HOW YOU CAN GET LIKE ALL SMALL SMALL STEPS AND THEN YOUR BIG INFLUX.
UH, BUT TO, JUST TO SPEAK TO THAT, THIS TUR IS A BLEND OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES.
SO IS THIS IT OR IS THIS IT? IT'S THE ONE WITH THE LAST ONE.
OH, IT'S THIS ONE HERE? YES, SIR.
THE REASON IT HAS SO MANY HOLES IN IT IS BILL WENT BACK AND CARVED OUT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT WOULDN'T REALLY BRING A LOT OF VALUE TO THE TURS AT THE EXPENSE OF EATING UP THAT PERCENTAGE IN OUR CITY IS, YOU'RE LIMITED TO THE PERCENTAGE OF COURSE THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN IT HAVE TUR OUT.
SO HE CARVED OUT THE LEASE PERFORMING PROPERTIES.
DID THEY NOT CHANGE THAT FROM 10% TO 30%? YES.
SO EVERYTHING WE LEARNED BACK FROM THE PRE FIRST TWO TIFFS PRETTY MUCH ALMOST THROW IT OUT.
THE ONE YOU START ALL OVER WITH NEW SET OF RULES MADE.
AND THIS WOULD, THIS COULD BE NO REASON YOU PAY ATTENTION.
THIS COULD BE A GOOD TEMPLATE TO POSSIBLY REDEVELOP OTHER AREAS LIKE THE SQUARE AROUND DOWNTOWN KAMAN OR POSSIBLY SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN MAYBACK CAMP, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD TOOL IF IT'S USED RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, GET EDUCATED ON IT IN THAT REGARD.
WITH CI DON'T GUESS I DON DUNNO ANYBODY HERE FROM THE CITY C BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY DID GET THEIR GRANT FROM THE TECH OFFICE, REDO ALL THE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS GREAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT FOR US BECAUSE OF ALL THE BUSINESS WE HAVE DOWN HERE, BUT, SO PROBABLY SAID,
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I DO KNOW THEY GOT IT.ALRIGHT, OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS ALL? WELL, THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
IF WE, UH, AS WE STUDY THROUGH THIS AND, UH, I'M, I, I CERTAINLY WANNA MAKE SURE I'M DATE, I'VE NOT PARTICIPATED THESE IN THE PAST.
UH, BUT AS WE GET THROUGH, IF WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, WE NOT GET YOU BACK FOR WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING, WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING, I'M, I THINK THESE ARE GOOD INCENTIVES FOR US TO USE AS OUR COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW AND MAKES OUR COMMUNITIES BETTER AND BETTER LOOKING AND MORE ATTRACTIVE AND FOR COUNTY, THAT'S A WIN-WIN.
WE CERTAINLY, I'M NOT THE, I DON'T THINK SO YOU'RE HERE.
UH, IF YOU WOULD SKIP OVER TO ITEM NUMBER, UH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND DO 18 OR DO YOU JUST WANNA DO 19? 19.
WELL WE, WE NEED TO HONOR THAT.
AND SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE TO DISCUSS CONSIDERING ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH FUEL MAN, A DFW FOR FUEL CARDS AND RELATED SERVICES UTILIZING THE PROPERTY PURCHASING NETWORK.
THANK YOU JACK FOR YOU MAY REMEMBER WE DISCUSSED THIS, UH, PROBABLY A YEAR OR SO A WHILE.
IT KIND OF DIED ON THE VINE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE WANTED TO, UH, PUT SOME DISPENSERS AND ON ISLANDS THAT PRECINCT IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE KIND THING DUE TO, TO BUDGET PROBLEM.
I THINK IT'S TIME WE, UH, AWARD A FUEL CARD AND CANCEL ALL THESE GAS CARDS WE HAVE OUT THERE.
AND SO AS MENTIONED THIS, THIS IS AVAILABLE ON, UH, THROUGH TPN ALREADY BEEN OUT.
AND UH, I THINK IT'S A BIG PROGRAM THAT WOULD HELP US TO UH, KIND OF WATCH OUR FUEL HAS VENT AND ELIMINATE, UH, ALL THE OTHER AREAS GOING THE BARN TO FUEL UP.
THEY CAN HELP YOU GUYS OUT HAVING THAT TRACTOR BACK AND FORTH, FIND A PLACE TO FUEL UP.
THERE'S SEVERAL OF THE FUELMAN STATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTY.
UH, I THINK WE HAVE, UH, DOUG HERE TODAY.
IF YOU HAVEN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, FUEL MAN, I GOT ONE ON THE SALES TAX CONDUCTED AT THE PUMP.
I BELIEVE ALL TAXES ARE, IS THAT CORRECT? TAX ARE RIGHT.
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN SALES TAX, CORRECT? I MEANT MORE TAX ANYWAY.
I THINK ONE OF THINGS THAT IS, IS THAT UH, IF SOMEONE GO TO YOUR BARN, GET GAS, UH, WE APPLY FOR THE REBATE ON TAXES, THAT DEPARTMENT DOESN'T SEE THAT.
SO, SO NOW WE GO DIRECTLY BACK TO THAT DEPARTMENT.
THEY'LL GET TAX WHEN THE BILL PAID.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT CHARGED AT THE TIME WHEN IT GETS, WHEN THEY GET A BILL BILL.
WE EXEMPT THE FEDERAL MOTOR FUELS TAX AT THE TIME OF STATE TOO LONG.
WE APPLY FOR THE REMAKE FROM THE IRS.
WHAT ABOUT THE STATE? NO, WE PAID THE STATE TAX, WE PAID THE STATE SCHOOLS DO NOT.
YEAH, BUT CITIES AND COUNTIES SHOULDN'T.
WELL I WONDER WHY TO WORK ON THAT CAN GET THAT SOMETHING DONE.
SO BE BE ADVANTAGE TO THE CONSTABLES OR THEY'LL GET FULL CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY BUY AS OPPOSED TO US GETTING A REBATE BACK ON THEIR FUEL TAXES.
PLUS THEY WON'T HAVE TO OPEN THEM.
YOU GOT ONLY PEOPLE GONNA BE IN YOUR BODY, WON'T BE YOUR PEOPLE'S SIDE.
WE GET TO KEEP OUR FUEL TANK PC.
YEAH, I WOULD NOT, I WOULDN'T WANT IT.
THIS DISTRICT CREDIT CARD PROCESS, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING MAYBE TO LOOK AT DOWN THE ROAD.
THEY WANT TO NOT HAVING THOSE FUEL TANKS.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, THE LIABILITY THERE, YOU KNOW, LEAKAGE.
UH, YOU HAD CLEAN ON SAFE MANY BARNS WHENEVER THEY, THEY DECIDE TO MOVE, UH, REMEDIATION.
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THINGS.YOU DON'T WANT A DRIVEWAY, LARGE FUEL TO AR BUT UH, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD YOU MAY WANNA JUST HAVE TYPES DIESEL AND WELL, LET'S HAVE THE, UH, I KNOW WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, A COUPLE YEARS AGO NOW, UH, A BACKUP SYSTEM INVOLVED IT WHERE YOU COULDN'T PUT MORE FUEL IN THAT VEHICLE THAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
YOU'LL GET A REPORT, UH, A MILE REPORT, USE REPORT.
THAT'S ONE THING WE'LL NEED, NEED A LOT OF HELP FROM GENTLEMEN.
UH, WHEN YOU SET THESE THINGS UP, UH, THERE'LL BE A QUESTIONNAIRE.
AND IT'LL ASK HOW MANY GALLONS THAT THAT HAS.
THEY'LL INPUT THAT INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU HAVE A CROWN VICTIM HAS 22 GALLONS AND SOMEONE TRIES TO PUT 30 GALLONS IN IT, OR IF THEY TRY, OR IF THEY FILL UP TODAY, IT ONLY GO 30 MILES, DROP UP TOMORROW, UH, AND PICK UP WHATEVER CONTAINMENT DOES.
SO THEY DID, THEY PUNCH THEIR BALLOT AGENT AT THE SAME TIME THEY GET THE DEAL.
SO BASICALLY IT'S THE SAME DEAL WE LOOKED AT LAST YEAR.
IN OTHER WORDS, OFF UH, UH, IS BULK FIELD GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS ALSO? OR JUST, UH, NOT THIS TIME.
NOW, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST TIME, THAT'S WHAT WOULD KILLED THIS THING WAS BECAUSE THE COST OF THE, OF THE MONITOR.
I THINK IF YOU PAID SO MUCH PENNY, 2 CENTS PER GALLON THAT DEVICE THAT CORRECT.
WE CAN PROVIDE A CARD READER COSTS.
YOU PAY FOR THAT CAPTURES ALL THAT.
INTEGRATES YOUR ON ONSITE FUELING WITH YOUR OFFSITE FUEL ON THE SAME FLOOR.
YOU WANT ME TO DISCOUNT AND FUEL PROCESS.
NORMALLY A CUSTOMER, WHICH IS YOU NEGOTIATE WITH YOUR FUEL VENDOR AND DROPS FUEL IN THOSE TANKS.
I KNOW WHAT YOU HAD A TIME OR I GUESS SHORT VERSION ON THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER IS THAT, UH, IF YOUR AREA, IF YOUR GUYS ARE GETTING KILLED AT A GAS STATION IN CAMP OR UH, CRANDALL KAMAN AND YOU DON'T MONITOR YOUR FUEL, THAT SAME DEVICE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET AN ACCURATE READING.
UH, BUT, BUT UH, I THINK IT IS A GOOD BACKUP SYSTEM.
WE LOSE POWER, HAVE SOME KIND OF PROBLEM.
THE OTHER PUBLIC WORKS FUEL OUT, ELIMINATE THAT NEED AGAIN.
AND I THINK WE GET THIS THING DONE FIRST THIS WAY, THEN WE MAY ADD THOSE DEVICES, UH, DOWN THE ROAD.
I SAID NEED Y'ALL HELP ON TRYING TO GET THESE VEHICLE THE OKAY.
I'M TO THE CONTRACT APPEAL MA'AM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
UH, IT SAID ON HERE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A CONTACT PERSON TO BE NAMED, UH, LIKE FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
AND WHO'S GOING BE THIS DESIGNATED? JACK WILL INITIALLY, WE'LL HAVE TO, YES, WE WILL.
WE'LL PASS OUT THE SHEETS TO GET, GET 'EM ALL FILLED OUT.
I THINK THE CARD STAYS IN THE VEHICLE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MARK AND A SESSION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
DO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WILL LEAST HAVE A PEN NUMBER WITH THEM.
LIKE, UH, SO IT'LL BE DIFFERENT FROM THEY DO THE NEXT.
EACH EMPLOYEE HAS A PEN AND THAT'LL, THAT'LL MAKE IT A LOT SIMPLER FOR JACK TO BE ABLE TO TRACK WHO'S PURCHASING THE GAS FROM WHERE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, ALLOWING US TO SKIP AHEAD.
JUST GIVE US AN NEXT PENNY DISCOUNT.
ALL UH, KATHY, UH, WE'LL ASK YOU TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE THE PUBLIC WORKS REPORT FOR MONTH, UH, REPORT FOR JUNE.
AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU JUST, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT LOT EASIER ON MY FOLKS BECAUSE I HAVE TWO CARS FORTH.
UM, I HAVE TWO REPORTS JUNE AND JULY BECAUSE I COULDN'T BE HERE FOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR SCHEDULE MONTH.
NEW PERMITS BY PRECINCT WAS PRECINCT ONE, IT WAS ONE PRECINCT.
YOU HAD FIVE PRECINCT THREE, FOUR AND PRECINCT FOUR AND THREE.
INVESTIGATOR FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, 22 4
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MALFUNCTIONS AND 40 EIGHTS FOR MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS.COMPLAINTS BY PRECINCT WAS 1 57.
TWO HAD 26, 327 AND FOUR HAD 26.
THE COURT CASES WE ACTUALLY FILED WERE 13 FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY LOW.
THE BAD PART WAS MALFUNCTIONS.
SO WE DIDN'T GET A LOT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE.
NOW MAKING PROVIDER VIOLATIONS FILED IN COURT IN JUNE.
SO FOR PRECINCT ONE THERE WAS 24 PRECINCT TWO.
YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE THOSE FIGURES.
THAT IS NOT CORRECT, I DON'T BELIEVE.
ANYWAY, WE HAD 49 SITE VISIT FOLLOW UPS AND FOR ADDRESSES BY PRECINCT WE HAD NINE, WE HAD TWO PRECINCT HAVE TWO HAD FIVE PRECINCT, THREE HAD 10 PRECINCT, FOUR HAD 33 FOR TOTAL 57.
STILL HAVING THE SAME OLD PROBLEM WITH COG NOT GETTING US ANY OF THE GI S INFORMATION.
SO I DUNNO WHERE WE STAND ON THAT.
I DID ASK FOR A REPORT AND WHAT I GOT WAS THE SAME ONE WE HAD IN APRIL WITH NO CHANGE.
SO WHATEVER THE ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING AND NOT UPDATING THEIR REPORTS MONTHLY, THEY'RE NOT FORTHCOMING WITH THAT REASON.
SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE WE STAND IN OUR ACCURACY CONSTANTLY WORKING ON.
AND THAT'S THE BEST I CAN TELL YOU.
FOR JULY, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 20 PERMITS BY THE PRECINCT.
ONE HAD SIX PRECINCT TWO HAD SEVEN PRECINCT THREE HAD TWO, AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD FIVE FOR COMPLAINTS.
THERE WERE 110 PRINT, NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, 35 MALFUNCTIONS.
WE HAD NO MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS IN JULY.
UH, COMPLAINTS ABOUT PRECINCT, WE HAD 58 PRECINCT ONE, PRECINCT TWO HAD 25 PRECINCT THREE HAD 30 PRECINCT, FOUR HAD 32 COURT CASES FILED FOR NO MAINTENANCE.
CONTRACTS WERE 52, MALFUNCTIONS WERE 13 AND MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS WERE 41.
AND THAT'S FROM THE MONTH BEFORE FOR JUNE THAT WE HAD GENERATED.
IN JUNE, WE ACTUALLY FILED IN JULY.
COURT CASES BY PRECINCT WERE 35 AND PRECINCT ONE.
PRECINCT TWO HAD 11, PRECINCT THREE AND FIVE, PRECINCT FOUR AND 14.
AND THERE WERE 31 ADDRESSES AGAIN, UH, IN JULY PRECINCT ONE AND FIVE, PRECINCT TWO HAD SIX, PRECINCT THREE HAD SEVEN AND PRECINCT FOUR AND 13.
I HAVE TO THINK LONG AND HARD TO FIND A QUESTION.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, BUT COURT CASES.
YOU SAID THAT WAS BECAUSE SOME WERE, IS THAT TYPICAL TO HAVE THAT MUCH OF VARIATION FROM MONTH TO MONTH? IT DEPENDS ON WHEN THE COURT DATES ARE SET.
WE HAD THE UM, ALMOST A TWO MONTH GAP USUALLY WHEN THEY TRY TO SET COURT EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
BUT WE HAD A TWO MONTH GAP, SO THAT GIVES PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL GIVE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO COMPLY.
AND SO WHEN THE ACTUAL COURT CASES GET DOWN TO BEING FILED AND HER IN COURT, THEY MAY BE LESS, WE USUALLY HAVE ABOUT 50 MONTHS AVERAGE.
BUT FOR JUNE THAT WAS, IT WAS MONTH.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A FOUR DAY SET, SO, BUT THEY HAD COURT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT AS PRESENTED.
I, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MOON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU KATHY.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS FROM LARRY EWING, OUR FIRE MARSHAL.
I TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXTENDING THE COFFEE COUNTY FIRE PANEL.
UH, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY UP IN THE MID SIXTIES TO THE UPPER SIXES ON THE INDEX LEVEL.
A COUNTY IS FROM HERE TO LOUISIANA.
I DID NOTICE IT WAS THAT ONLY HENDERSON COUNTY, ELLIS COUNTY.
EVEN THOUGH EVERY COUNTY BETWEEN HERE AND THE OKLAHOMA, ARKANSAS, LOUISIANA BORDER ALL THE WAY DOWN SOUTH FIVE.
SO DUNNO WHY THEY DON'T STANDARDS.
ANYWAY, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY STILL TO AGREE WITH THAT.
GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR, YOUR, I THINK WE NEED THIS TO END ANOTHER 30 DAYS.
MR. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL PURPOSE SAY I, I, JUST SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO, I THINK COMMISSIONER MANNING AND I TALKED, WE'VE HAD, UH, VERY GOOD COMPLIANCE JUST TO GO AROUND ON IT.
I SHOULD HAVE SOME MORE SIGNS COMING HERE PRETTY GET SOME SIGNS PRINTED.
ONE OF THE WORDS, WHICH MAY LOOK PRETTY SILLY, SO I REFUSE THEM
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ANYWAY, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THOSE IN WAY.
WE'LL GET SOME MORE OF THOSE OUT.
BUT BASICALLY THE ONLY FIRES WE'VE BEEN HAVING REALLY HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTAL FIRE, EXCEPT I THINK COMPLIANCE.
I THINK THE SIGNS AND THE MEDIA, YOU KNOW, BY POSTING, I THINK THAT THAT HELPS.
I KNOW PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT OF THE COUNTY THAT HAVE PROPERTY HERE, THEY CALL ME KNOW IF THERE'S A BURN.
BUT NOW LARRY, THANK YOU LARRY.
UH, LET'S MOVE ALONG WITH A COUPLE MORE ITEMS BEFORE WE, UH, TAKE A BREAK ON, UH, NUMBER SEVEN, LAURIE FLOYD TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING UPDATES TO PERSONNEL.
MORNING GUYS, I GAVE YOU A LITTLE, UM, MOMENT AGO THIS MORNING.
UM, WE JUST HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
UM, UH, THE AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE ACT DID NOT GOING INTO EFFECT.
UM, JANUARY 1ST PART OF IT'S GONNA AFFECT US JANUARY 1ST, 2014.
AND THE MANUAL HAD SAID THAT IT WAS, SO WE HAVE CHANGED, I'VE CHANGED THE MANUAL TO JUST SAY PENDING EFFECTIVE DATE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO PAY THE, UM, HEALTH BENEFITS FOR THE MODIFIED PART-TIME AT THIS TIME.
SO, UM, I'VE CHANGED THE WORDING ON THAT.
UM, I ALSO, ON THE HEALTH BENEFITS I ADDED, UM, THE WORDING ABOUT THE NON-TOBACCO USER DISCOUNT PROGRAM AND THEN ALSO THE REWARD FOR WELLNESS PROGRAM.
I ADDED THAT TO THE MANUAL AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, ON THE RETIREMENT, I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND I WAS JUST NEEDING CLARIFICATION FROM Y'ALL.
I'VE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, AN EMPLOYEE RETIRES FROM THE COUNTY, UM, THAT WE PAY EITHER ALL OR HALF OF THEIR HEALTH BENEFITS DEPENDING ON HOW MANY YEARS OF SERVICE.
AND I GUESS I'M JUST NEEDING A DEFINITION OF RETIREMENT.
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE BEGINNING WAS THAT THEY RETIRED WITH THE TEXAS COUNTY DISTRICT RETIREMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHY THE RETIREMENT IS THROUGH AND THEY RECEIVE A MONTHLY BENEFIT.
SO IF THEY DON'T TAKE THAT CHECK, DO THEY GET BENEFITS OR NOT? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO RETIRE, UM, BUT IF THEY LEAVE THEIR MONEY TCRS FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS, THEY CAN GET A HIGHER MONTHLY PAYMENT.
BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SERVED 25 YEARS OR SO AT KAUFMAN COUNTY, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO TAKE THEIR MONEY OUT.
SO THEY'RE LEAVING, THEY'RE RETIRING.
BUT DO THEY HAVE TO TAKE THAT MONTHLY CHECKOUT TO RECEIVE THEIR HEALTH BENEFITS OR KIND OF, WHAT IS Y'ALL'S OPINION AND WHAT HAVE WE DONE WITH OTHER FOLKS? WE'VE NEVER REALLY HAD IT AFFECT ANYONE, UM, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS TAKEN THEIR CHECKOUT.
UM, BUT I'M GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RETIRE.
THEY WANNA, SO IN MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE BEGINNING WAS THAT THEY HAD TO TAKE OUT THEIR MONTHLY CHECK FROM TCRS, BUT IT'S TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. WE DON'T HAVE TO NOTIFY ONE OR THE OTHER BASED ON ANYTHING.
SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A CALL ON HOW WE WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IF THEY RETIRE, LEAVE THE COUNTY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY RETIRE FROM TCRS, WE STILL WANT TO PAY THEIR HELP BENEFITS OR HOW Y'ALL WORK TO DO THAT? WELL, I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I WOULD THINK ADMINISTRATIVE, IT WOULD, UH, AGAIN, WHENEVER THEY DO START TAKING THEIR TC TCS BENEFITS, IF THEY DON'T TAKE THEM, THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY RETIRED.
WELL, THE DEFINITION OF RETIREMENT JUST MEANS THAT THEY GIVE UP THEIR POSITION, NOT NECESSARILY TO TAKE OUT A CHECK.
AND THAT DEFINITION COMES FROM, I JUST GOOGLED IT, THE DEFINITION OF RETIREMENT ARY COM
DOES, UH, UH, HOW DO OTHER COUNTIES, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? NO.
UM, MOST OF ONES THAT I'VE TALKED TO, UM, THEY, THEY DON'T SPECIFY IN THEIR POLICY AND I DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA AFFECT US LONG TERM.
I THINK IT MIGHT AFFECT ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, BUT I, WELL, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY RETIRE, THEY TAKE OUT THEIR MONEY.
IT, IT WOULD JUST APPEAR TO ME THAT YOU'RE NOT RETIRED UNTIL YOU START DRAWING A RETIREMENT CHECK.
I MEAN, UH, I DON'T, I DIDN'T MOVE IT RIGHT.
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THAT JUST ME, DOESN'T THAT MEAN ONE WAY THE OTHER, I JUST RIGHT.YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY THIS IS WELL, AND REMEMBER LOOKS LIKE, LOOKS LIKE THEY QUIT WORKING AND, UH, WERE RETIREMENT AGE AND WASN'T DRAWING A CHECK.
I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL BEING RETIRED.
IF THEY, THEY WORKED FOR THE COUNTY OVER EIGHT YEARS OR BETTER AND THEN QUIT THE COUNTY OR SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M RETIRING OR WHATEVER, THAT CONSTITUTES RETIREMENT TO ME.
EVEN IF THEY DON'T DRAW A RETIREMENT CHECKS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
WHY IN THE WORLD? I MEAN, I DO WANT MONEY AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, I THINK AT LEAST 99% TAKE THEIR MONEY.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING THAT ISSUE? I MEAN, JUST, AND YOU KNOW, I, I CERTAINLY DON'T ANY, I, ANY SYSTEMS THAT, AND THERE, LIKE OUR HEALTH BENEFITS, OUR HEALTH BENEFITS IN OUR RETIREMENT ARE SEPARATE SYSTEM.
SO ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED THE OTHER, WE JUST TELL THEM WE'RE PAYING IT.
KENNETH, YOU HAVE, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE COST FACTOR IS.
IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T APPROVE ANY, I MEAN, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
IF, IF WE, UH, SAY THAT WE WILL PROVIDE IT ONCE THEY ACTUALLY START, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY ANNOUNCE THEIR RETIREMENT, THEY START DRAWING THEIR RETIREMENT CHECK, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PAY HALF OF THEIR RETIREMENT.
UH, BUT IF WE DON'T DO THAT, IF WE JUST SAY THAT, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO RETIRE, BUT THEY DON'T START ON RETIREMENT CHECK, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PAY IT.
IF THEY DON'T RETIRE, IF THEY DON'T, UM, GET THEIR RETIREMENT CHECK THEN ON A MONTHLY BASIS, THEN WE WOULD OR WOULD NOT PAY HEALTH BENEFITS.
LIKE DO THEY HAVE TO THEIR LAST DAY'S, AUGUST 30TH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE RETIRED, UM, OR WHATEVER THEIR LAST NAME'S AND THEY'RE GONNA RETIRE SEPTEMBER ONE.
DO WE PAY HEALTH BENEFITS OR NOT? IF THEY DON'T TAKE THEIR CHECK, THAT'S THE QUESTION.
WELL THAT MUCH BE LIKE WHEN THEY QUIT WORKING, THEY ARE RETIRED WHETHER THEY TOLD OR NOT.
BUT IF YOU PUT THAT IN, IT'S GONNA BE TIED TO THEIR HEALTH BENEFITS.
THEY'RE GONNA DRAW THEIR RETIREMENT.
THEY WANT GET THAT HELP BENEFIT.
THEY, IF THEY START DRAWING THEIR RETIREMENT BENEFITS.
I MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE RETIREMENT TO ME.
AND IF THEY DON'T WANT, THEY DON'T WANT DO THAT.
THEY WANT CONTINUE TO LET THEIR MONEY SIT IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
THEY CAN'T, THEY WANNA WATCH THAT GROW AND IT DOES GROW.
AND SO THAT'D BE THEIR, THEIR DECISION, BUT THEN THEY WOULD NOT GET THEIR HELP BENEFITS, RIGHT? IS THAT A PRETTY GOOD YEAH.
WELL IF SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY'S NOT 60 YEARS, SAY THEY GOT, SAY THEY GOT EIGHT YEARS OR WHATEVER AND THEY'RE NOT 60 YEARS OLD, THEY WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE BENEFITS ANYWAY.
WELL, THE, THE ONES THAT I'M GETTING QUESTIONS FOR, THEY HAVE BEEN HERE 20 PLUS YEARS AND ARE YOUNG.
AND SO THERE'S NO POINT FOR THEM TO, THEY DON'T REALLY NEED THEIR RETIREMENT CHECK AT THE MOMENT.
LIKE EITHER THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE LINED UP, ANOTHER INCOME OR WHATEVER, AND SO THEY WANT THEIR HELP AND IT, IT GETS PAID IN FULL, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE OUT THEIR CHECKS.
SO THE QUESTION IS DO I GET TO GET MY HEALTH BENEFITS OR NOT? BUT THAT'S A PERSONAL DECISION THEY MAKE ON THEIR OWN.
AND I MEAN, IF, IF YOU TIE IT TOGETHER, LIKE YOU SAID, THEN THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE GONNA TAKE IT AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DO TAKE IT.
IT'S JUST, I'M BEING ASKED AND I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION.
UH, MY BELIEF IS THEY'RE GONNA RETIRE RETIRE IF THEY RETIRE.
WHEN I SAY RETIRE, I'M TALKING ABOUT ACTIVE WITHDRAWAL CHECK.
YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH START PARTICIPATING IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, UH, THEY SHOULD GET RETIREMENT OR THE, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE IF THEY DON'T, BUT THE MONEY TO SIT IN THE, IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.
BUT NOT, WE NOT COVER THAT IS GET NO BENEFITS IN RETIREMENT.
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TO THAT WORDING JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.AND THEN LASTLY, I ALSO, UM, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POLICY POLICY, UM, LOTS OF, UM, COMPLAINTS ABOUT POLICY.
SO I HAVE REWORDED IT TO BE MORE, TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BETTER.
UM, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST TARGETING, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT OR, UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
SO, SO THIS CLARIFIES THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE DEPARTMENT, IT'S ALL THE IRON DEPARTMENT.
IT STILL MEANS THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE PREVIOUS POLICY WAS WRITTEN IN PAST, I JUST CLARIFIED THE WORDING, UM, A LITTLE BETTER.
IT'S NOT CHANGING THE MEANING OF ANYTHING.
SHERIFF, YOU, I KNOW YOU'VE STUDIED THIS, UH, IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH YEAH.
THE HOLIDAY POLICY AS IT HAS BEEN CHANGED.
I'VE, I'VE SHOWED HIM AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WORDING AND STUFF.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.
ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? UH, MAKE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TREATING EVERYBODY EQUAL.
I WE APPROVE THE UPDATES THAT PRESENTED.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.
WE SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NUMBER EIGHT, TAKE YOUR, THE BENCHMARK IS 10, 10 MONTHS OUT OF YOUR 12 MONTH PERIOD, WHICH MAKES YOUR PERCENTAGE AT 0.8 3 3 83 AND A THIRD.
UH, YOUR GENERAL REVENUES ARE AT 92%.
YOUR GENERAL EXPENDITURES ARE AT 78.8, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD.
UH, YOUR GENERAL FUND IS SITTING AT 89% OF YOUR REVENUES AND 89% OF THE TRANSFERS TOO BEFORE PRECINCTS.
THEN, UH, YOUR REVENUES FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE, EACH PRECINCT TOGETHER IS 71% AND YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT 53.9.
AND WE HAVE HOW MANY MORE PAY PERIODS? UH, LIKE, UH, YOU HAVE ONE FRIDAY AND ONE ON THE 30TH, AND THEN TWO IN SEPTEMBER.
WE DON'T HAVE, SO WE HAVE FOUR MORE PAY PERIOD.
I HAVE TO ACCRUE THAT THE PART OF THE, THE LAST PART THAT WILL BE PAID IN OCTOBER HAS TO BE ACCRUED BACK TO SEPTEMBER.
BUT OVERALL, I MEAN, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD.
I, I CONTINUE TO BE WORRIED ABOUT OUR REVENUE PORTION.
92% GOOD, GOOD AT, UH, COLLECTION HERE MONTH, UH, OF UH, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.
UH, BUT OUR EXPENSES ARE DOWN AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.
BUT WE DO HAVE FOUR PAY PERIODS REMAIN.
FOUR, FIVE KIND OF ONE IN OCTOBER.
WELL, IT'LL ONLY BE SO MANY DAYS THAT IT'LL BE ACCRUED.
YEAH, THAT LAST ONE WE HAVE TO ACCRUE WHERE THE REQUIRES THE OUTSIDE REQUIRES US TO DO THAT UNDER THIS THE, AS SB 34.
IS THAT WHERE THAT CAME FROM? YES SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE, UH, AUDITOR? I SHOULD I SAY PURCHASING A NOT GET Y'ALL
ALL WE HAVE A MOTION TO WHO MADE A MOTION? TOM DID.
UH, KENNETH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AND AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND THEN PRESS YOUR LEG AND COME BACK AND FINISH UP THE REST OF MONTH.
FOR THE ENDING JULY, 2013, WE'VE COLLECTED 97.6% OF THE CURRENT YEAR TAXES FOR A TOTAL OF $28,727,779.
AND FOR THE PREVIOUS YEARS, THE DELINQUENT YEARS 2011 AND BEFORE, WE'VE COLLECTED AN ADDITIONAL, UH, $47,000 THIS MONTH.
SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON LAST YEAR'S TAXES AND
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THIS YEAR'S TAXES AND, UH,DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE TAXES THAT WE APPLIED TO FOR 20 OR JULY, 2013? THE MONTH OF AUGUST.
LOW HISTORY OF LIKE, GENERALLY PRETTY GOOD THREE MONTHS.
Y YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, UM, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 110% ALL THAT, IT JUST, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THAT JUST MEANS THEY'RE INCLUDING THE DELINQUENT TAX ROLL IN WITH THAT, RIGHT? I'M NOT SEPARATING AMOUNT.
UM, GENERALLY YOU DON'T GET A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO 98 OR 98 SOMETHING IS ABOUT WHAT YOU SHOULD EXPECT, RIGHT? WE BUDGET ON NINE EIGHT OR 9 7 98.
SO WE'RE AT 97.6 NOW WE HAVE TWO MORE MONTHS TO GO.
AND I AM, I AM USING STOCK LAW BY THAT MEETING.
I AM ALL NINE PEOPLE TO REGISTER THEIR VEHICLES IF WE HAVEN'T PAID THEIR TAXES.
SO GETTING MORE TAXES THAT WAY.
HOW, HOW OFTEN DOES THAT OCCUR? UH, DAILY OR ALMOST? YEAH.
UH, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S FOR BACK TAXES YEARS BEYOND, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST FOR THIS YEAR.
USUALLY IF SOMEBODY HASN'T PAID THIS YEAR, THEY HAVEN'T PAID THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND THEY HAVE TO PAY SOMETHING IN ORDER TO REGISTER THEIR CAR.
SO THAT USUALLY GETS TRANSFERRED BACK TO SOMEONE IN THE BACK OFFICE AND WE HELP THEM BUILD A CONTRACT TO PAY SOME MONEY, MAKE THEM PAY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY UP FRONT IN ORDER TO GET THERE.
SO YOU PARTIAL PAYMENT ALL, WE'LL TAKE PARTIAL PAYMENTS IF IT SAYS SIGNIFICANT INITIAL PARTIAL PAYMENT AND THEN THEY CAN REGISTER THEIR CAR.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE WON'T MAKE THEM PAY $12,000 RIGHT NOW OR YOU CAN'T REGISTER YOUR CAR.
BUT IF YOU DON'T GIVE ME AT LEAST 3000, THEN I PROBABLY WON'T REGISTER YOUR CAR.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE I CAN AND THEY CAN USUALLY COME UP WITH THE MONEY 99% OF THE TIME WHEN I DO THAT, THEY COME UP WITH THE MONEY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TAX? I JUST APPRECIATE HER STAYING THERE.
NEED THAT FOUR, FOUR 10TH OF A PERCENT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
I HAND A MOTION TO ACCEPT AS PRESENTED.
MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION, UH, MR. MAN.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING UPDATED DUMP PERMIT FEES FOR THE CITIZENS CONVENIENCE STATION.
AND CAROL BEEN ADMINISTERED BY THE TAX OFFICES IN PRECINCT THREE AND TWO.
I ASKED FOR THIS TO BE PUT ON HERE.
I FELT LIKE IT WAS TIME FOR US TO RAISE OUR FEES.
UH, WE'VE BEEN SITTING THERE FOR ALL THESE YEARS WITHOUT IT AND PAYING A LOT OF MONEY TO CO-OP WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL ON ON DUCK FEES AND IT WAS TIME TO MAKE A CHANGE AND I PLAGIARIZED THESE OFF OF PRECINCT FOR, UH, CONVENIENCE STATION AND UH, APPLIED THEM TO OUR COUNTY, UH, SITUATION TO MAKE COURT WILL LET THE PEOPLE THAT USE IT PAY FOR IT.
PLEASE COMPARE WITH THE PRECINCT.
I HAVE NO IDEA BECAUSE I PERMIT SHOULD WE TRY TO UH, MAKE THIS SAME COUNTY? WE TRIED, WE TRIED THAT FIVE YEAR OR SO AGO AND UH, GET IT DONE.
SOME PEOPLE FLAT REFUSED TO THEIR RATES AND SOME OF THEM THEY WOULD RAISE RATES BUT YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU WANNA DRIVE THE CALL DRIVING PROVIDED I STARTED IT.
YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD A MEETING, SOME OF 'EM DIDN'T WANT, THEY DIDN'T WANNA DO IT.
WELL IT JUST SEEMS TO ME TO BE CONSISTENT, WE OUGHT HAVE IT COUNTYWIDE DEMAND.
I THINK SO TOO BECAUSE I REALLY HAD TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF CHARLES TO GET THEM TO CHANGE UP FEES BECAUSE THEY WOULD LET PEOPLE JUST OUT THERE AND DUMP AND THEY, FEW OF THEM THAT WAS THE SYSTEM PAYING 60 AND THEY'VE TAKEN UP REMODEL MATERIAL AFTER THE DUMPSTER.
WE AT FOUR 60 AND THEY GOT BY 60.
I'M SUBSIDIZING AND UH, I FEEL LIKE THEY USE IT.
I DON'T MIND PAYING TO USE WHAT I NEED TO USE, BUT UH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.
WELL, WE EVER GET THESE AUTOMATIC DUMPSTER UP A BIG ISSUE.
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YOU GOT ANY YOU WANT TO STUDY? YOU'RE, I THINK THE ONLY ONE WE CAN VOTE ON TODAY IS PRECINCT THREE.I, I DO NEED TO GET WITH THE CITY AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND I GUESS THEY, THE PERMITS HERE.
I THINK THEY'RE STRICTLY BASIS UPDATE.
ALRIGHT, RAY, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE SO I, AM I CORRECT AND
BUY PERMIT, COFFMAN DUMP COSTS IF THEY WANTED TO.
OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, FUEL COSTS COULD BE CHEAPER.
SO WE IS EVERYBODY OKAY THEN WITH GOING AHEAD AND APPROVING THESE THAT ARE PRESENTED AND THEN TOM, ENTIRE PRICE? TOM TIME? I'M GOOD.
MY RIGHT'S FINE AT THIS POINT.
YEAH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT ON THE, WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE TODAY.
WE JUST HAVE IT FOR THREE AND TWO.
WELL, MINE, MY RIGHTS ARE NOT CHANGING.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE THE SAME AS THIS.
YOUR RATES ARE, SO YOUR RATES ARE ALREADY, I SAID I PLAGIARIZED THE PRECINCT COURT.
UH, YEAH, WELL MINE ARE SPECIFIED.
UH, PASSENGER TIRES, $2 PIECE TRUCK TIRES, SEVEN TRACTOR.
WELL, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CONSISTENT ON? WELL, YOU KNOW, THE FREIGHT'S DIFFERENT EVERY, THAT'S WHY I GOT, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT THE CITY OF CHARLES SUGGESTED ON THE, OKAY, WELL TWO AND THREE ARE OKAY WITH IT UP HERE.
AND THEN JAMIE, YOU'LL, UH, YOU'LL WORK ON YOURS AND IF YOU WANNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR A LATER MEETING, WE DO THAT AFTER YOU HAVE CHANCE TO REVIEW IT.
SO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, UPDATED PERMIT, PERMIT FEES.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER NIK SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ITEM NUMBER 11, UH, APPROVING THE CAMAN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION BYLAWS.
AND JAMIE IS HERE AND SHE'S SET THROUGH THE WHOLE MEETING.
AND SO SHE'S GOT SOME PRETTY MINOR CHANGES TO THE, UH, BYLAWS.
MAYBE REALLY BRINGS US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE, UH, COMMITTEE.
THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE NOT ALL MINOR THERE RIGHT NOW WE GOT OUR NEW CHAIRMAN IN JUDY, I CALL YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T MET HER, I'M SURE YOU HAVE.
BUT WHEN SHE TOOK IT OVER, SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE SAID, WELL, WHERE, UH, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HER DUTIES WERE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO WE, WE DUG OUT THE, UH, WELL WE, WE DIDN'T TAKE IT OUT.
WE PULLED UP THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION'S HANDBOOK, THE, UH, COUNTY COMMISSIONS, AND WE STARTED GOING THROUGH IT TO TELL HER WHAT HER JOB ENTAILED.
AND AS WE WERE DOING THAT, WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD BEEN USING THE SAME BYLAWS AND THE SAME STANDING COMMITTEES DESCRIBED WHAT WAS PROBABLY, UH, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 15 YEARS.
HAVE THEY FOUR COMPUTERS ALL KNOW? ABSOLUTELY.
BUT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND COMPUTERS ANYWAY, SO, SO WE, WE READ ABOUT IT.
BUT, UH, ANYHOW, IN DOING THAT, WE JUST, UH, WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS TIME TO REALIGN AND UPDATE OUR COMMITTEES TO, UH, BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE STATE RECOMMENDS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DO.
AND THERE'S THIS KIND OF MAJOR CHANGES.
I Y'ALL HAVE SHOULD HAVE COPIES.
ALL OF THE BYLAWS AND OUR NEW COMMITTEE REALIGNMENTS, WE'VE ADDED, UH, COMMITTEES.
UM, THE, THE MOST CHANGE I GUESS I, I WOULD POINT OUT WAS THE, WE HAD THE, IT WAS CALLED A MUSEUM COMMITTEE AND IT WAS FOR THE OPERATION OF THE CORE FIRM.
AND, UH, IT WAS NOTHING LIKE THE MUSEUM COMMITTEE AT ALL BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S A MUSEUM THAT'S OPEN REPUBLIC.
EVERYTHING JUST WASN'T RIGHT AT ALL.
SO WE JUST ELIMINATED THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER.
BUT WHAT THEY DID HAVE IN THERE THAT WE COULD USE, AND WE HAD BEEN, UH, UH, WE HAD ALREADY BEEN DESIGNATED AS A ENDANGERED HISTORICAL SITE.
THEY HAD AN ENDANGERED PROPERTIES COMMITTEE.
AND SO WE MOVED THAT OVER TO ENDANGERED PROPERTIES COMMITTEE AND WROTE WHAT WE WOULD HAVE UNDER THAT.
AND WE PUT THAT COMMITTEE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF OUR PRESERVATION,
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CHAIRMAN PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.AND IT'S WORKING VERY, VERY WELL.
WE HAVE, WE'VE APPOINTED TWO CO-CHAIRS TO UPGRADE THAT ENDANGERED PROPERTIES IN THAT CASE, THEM TAKE OVER THE OPERATION OF THE FARM AND THE RESTORATION OF THE FARM AND ALL THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
AND THEY ARE, UM, CHARLES GILMORE AND STAN ARE THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE FARM.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, WELL, I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND YOU'VE SEEN THE PROGRESS THAT YOU'VE MADE JUST IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THIS IS GOING TO, WE HAVE JUST, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SIGN A, UH, UH, PROPOSAL FROM AN ARCHITECT, UH, WENDY ASSOCIATES, I THINK THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DID THE, THE, UH, MUSEUM O IN MORNING THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON THERE.
AND WE'VE GOT JUST THIS WEEK HAVE GOTTEN THE PROPOSAL WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ON IT AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND WE'RE GONNA SIGN IT AND SEND IT BACK.
AND, UH, YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME MONEY ACCUMULATED IN THE, OUR BUDGET IS BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN OUR BUDGET AS SUCH.
OUR $10,000 A YEAR THAT WE HAVE BEEN GETTING BROKEN DOWN, HALF OF IT GOES TO A GENERAL FUND FOR OUR OPERATION AND THE OTHER HALF WOULD GO TO THE PROOF FARM PROJECT.
WELL, HALF OF THAT, AND I, I THINK I SUBMITTED, WE SUBMITTED THIS, UH, HERE IN OUR BUDGET.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE, AND I'M THE EMPLOYEE NOW WHERE WE CAN, UH, WE'VE GOT ALLOCATED $5,000 A YEAR TO PAY SOMEONE TO COME INTO THE OFFICE AND WORK ONE DAY.
BUT WEEK RIGHT NOW THAT'S MAY OR IT HAS BEEN MAY.
SO, UH, ANY I THIS YEAR WE INCREASE OUR $10,000 TO 15 TO PAY FOR THE PER, YOU KNOW, THE PERSONS WORKING.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET YET OR NOT, BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RIGHT HERE.
BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF EXPLAINING WHAT THIS PROJECT FOR THE
UH, IT WOULD BE AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL THE BUILDINGS AND HOW TO RESTORE THAT, THAT LEFT AND WHAT TO DO THERE.
PLUS IT WILL BE A, A, UH, LONG RANGE PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHOLE PROJECT.
AND IT, SHE GAVE US A QUOTE OF A TOTAL OF $28,000 AND WE'VE GOT THE FIGURES IN OUR PROPOSAL NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, BUT WE'LL NEED TO BE USING PART OF THAT $28,000 WOULD BE COME OUT THE BILL FORM FUND, WHICH I THINK WE'VE GOT OVER $13,000 IN AMOUNT.
AND ALSO THE FRIENDS OF KAMAN COUNTY HISTORIC COMMISSION WILL BE RAISING IN FUNDRAISERS TO PAY FOR ANYTHING.
AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO EXPAND THE MEMBERSHIP THERE SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS PLAN OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND GET PUBLIC FUNDS AND GET, UH, PUBLIC DONATIONS AND, AND, UH, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO KEEPING VERY, VERY CLOSE RECORDS OF OUR TIME SO THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS AND WE WILL HAVE IN KIND, UH, CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE, UH, MANAGING GRANTS.
SO IT'S A LONG RANGE PLAN, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS NOW FOR, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
AND WE'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET ANYTHING DONE.
AND NOW WE'VE GOTTEN MORE DONE IN THIS YEAR THAN WE PROBABLY HAD IN THE LAST 30 YEARS.
SO ANYHOW, THAT'S THAT PART AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE ENDANGERED, UH, PROPERTIES.
AND THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE, THAT COMMITTEE WOULD INCLUDE ANY ENDANGERED PROPERTIES IN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THAT DESIGNATION RIGHT NOW.
WE, THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE APPRECIATE, UH, WAS JUST THE, THE, UH, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DID THE NOMINATIONS AND EVERYTHING AND WE REWORDED THAT TO INCLUDE.
WE, WE, WE HAVE INTRODUCED, UH, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WOULD BE, UH, APPOINTING SOMEONE TO THE COMMISSION, I NOTICED, UH, YOU WOULD'VE NOTICED THE LAST TIME THAT WE SENT THAT IN.
WE HAD APPLICATION FORMS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT ON THE COMMISSION AND SO THAT Y'ALL COULD REVIEW WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT THEIR INTEREST WAS AND EVERYTHING.
SO WE, FOR OUR NOMINATING COMMITTEE, IT'S GOING TO BE COMPOSED OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOUR OFFICERS AND THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS, AND THAT'S OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WILL ACT AS A NOMINATING, UH, TO FILL THE OFFICER'S POSITION AND REVIEW.
AND THAT WAS WHERE WE ADDED AND REVIEW AND PRESENT APPLICATIONS FOR COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS TO THE MEMBERSHIP IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR APPROVAL.
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GOING TO HAVE THESE, WE WE'LL REVIEW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO BE PUT ON THE, OR HAVE ASKED TO BE PUT ON THE COMMISSION BEFORE IT EVER COMES TO YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UH, IT'S SOME, SOMEBODY THAT WE DEAL WITH WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMISSION.AND THEN OF COURSE I WENT OVER TO THE COMMITTEE AND THE OTHER ONE, UM, LET'S SEE, WE ADDED, UH, COMMITTEE UNDER HIS, UH, WE HAD JUST A HISTORY APPRECIATION COMMITTEE AND THAT WAS, WAS A CATCHALL THAT, THAT EVERYBODY WORKED ON AND, AND INCLUDED ALL OF OUR EVENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND WE PULLED OUT A PUBLICITY COMMITTEE THAT SHOULD PUBLICIZE THE WORK THROUGH THE MEDIA AND WE PULLED THAT OUT SO THAT WHOEVER IS DOING ALL THE PLANNING AND EVERYTHING FOR THAT, WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY IN CHARGE OF JUST DOING THE MARKETING AND ADVERTISING FOR, FOR OUR PROPOSAL.
SO HAVE A COMMITTEE AND THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALSO COMING OUT AND MAKING PRESENTATIONS AND, AND PUBLIC AND FOR WHATEVER THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RAISE FUNDS FOR.
SO, AND, AND THAT'S ALL GONNA GO THROUGH THE PRINT.
OF COURSE WHEN WE DO THAT, COME TO THE FRIENDS, THERE'S NO TAX MONEY INVOLVED WITH THAT.
THE ONLY TAX MONEY I CAN SEE THAT WILL BE INVOLVED WITH IT IS WHAT WE'VE ACCUMULATED RIGHT NOW.
I STILL HAVE ON THE BOOKS FOR THE PROJECT AND, UH, THAT'S GONE.
IT, IT'LL BE UP TO YOU GUYS FOR MONEY OR NOT.
SO, AND THEN WE, UH, ADDED AN ACQUISITIONS COMMITTEE THAT WILL COORDINATE THE DONATIONS OF ARCHIVES, PHOTOS, GENERAL ARTIFACTS AND EVERYTHING TO THE COMMISSION.
AND THAT ALSO COMES THROUGH TO FRIENDS.
IT'LL BE, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S SENT IN.
OF COURSE, THE FRIENDS, EVERYTHING FOR THE FRIENDS GOES TO THE COMMISSION ANYWAY, SO THERE'S NO TAX THERE EITHER.
BUT IN ACQUISITIONS IT WOULD BE TO THE COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, THE ACQUISITIONS WOULD COME THROUGH THE FRIENDS, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT THE FRENCH PROPERTY AND NOT COUNTY PROPERTIES.
SO I MEAN THAT, THAT'S CLEARLY WHAT A LOT OF MUSEUMS AND THINGS DO.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T, COUNTY PROPERTY WOULDN'T MEAN THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE PAPERWORK IF THEY SIGN WHEN THEY SIGN IT OVER, THERE'S, THERE'S A LONG PROCESS TO GO THROUGH THAT.
AND, UH, THERE WERE COUNTY PROPERTY, BUT THE COUNTY CAN COME IN AND SELL IT, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN TO ANY KIND DONATIONS TO FRIENDS.
SO THAT, THOSE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES AND, AND SOME OF THEM WERE MAJOR, BUT THAT IT WILL BRING US IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING.
AND, AND THEN WITH THE NEW, UH, COMMITTEE THAT CHARGES, IT CHANGES, IT MOVES THE WORK AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND THAT TELLS YOU WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS, MR. THE CHANGE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL A MOTION ACCEPT AS MADE MAN MAKES THAT MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND ALL OPPOSED.
AND I, I, I WILL VOLUNTEER ALL FOR OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO SERVE ON ANY COMMITTEES THAT YOU CAN NEED TO HELP AND JUDGE.
AND JUDGE ABSOLUTELY LOOK THIS OVER AND JUST LEMME KNOW WHICH COMMITTEE.
WE'LL, HAPPILY WE HAVE YOU THERE.
WE WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THAT PROPOSAL AND THAT'S OUR FIRST STEP BECAUSE WE KNEW WE HAD TO HAVE A, A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT AND NOBODY'S GOING TO HELP US WITH IT IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MISSING.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA HIT THE RUNNING WITH IT AND THE PRINCE IS ON, THEY'RE ON BOARD TO START THE FUNDRAISING PROCESS.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROV UNDER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR THE CITY OF KEMP C COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR, JUST A STANDARD AND LOCAL AGREEMENT PRECINCT FOUR IN THE CITY OF CAMP, UH, DATED NINTH TWO, NO PROJECTS PENDING.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA SECOND.
OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 13 IS CONSIDERED, UH,
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APPRO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR THE CITY OF MAYBANK.CALL COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR.
IS THIS THE SAME THING JUST FROM INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT, THE CITY MAY, THERE'S NO PROJECT PENDING.
WHENEVER Y'ALL GET TIME, WE HAVE, I SENT ONE TO JOHN.
UM, I GUESS IT'S, HE'S GONNA MAKE A FEW LEGAL CHANGES IN OKAY.
I'M SURE BRIAN WILL MAKE HIS CHANGES TO THE COURT.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING IN LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL, GOVERNMENT AND THE TALK COUNTY, AN COUNTY FOR E 9 1 11 SERVICE AND EQUIPMENT ADDRESSING AND DATABASE MAINTENANCE.
UH, THIS IS A STANDARD AGREEMENT WE'VE HAD, WE'VE CALLED MANY YEARS ON UH, PROVIDING THE 9 1 1 SERVICES, UH, TO OUR COUNTY AS WELL AS THE, UH, ADDRESSING AND DATABASE MAINTENANCE.
THE ONE THAT THEY'RE NOT FULFILLING, THE ONE THAT KATHY MENTIONED.
WE NEED SOME, THEY NEED SOME HELP, NEED TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET RESULTS, GEORGE? YEAH.
WHAT THEY DO FOR US, THERE'S REALLY TWO PARTS TO WHAT THEY DO.
PSAP, PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, ANSWERING POINT, WHICH IS ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE SHERIFF TALK.
THE SECOND PART IS, UH, MASTER STREET ADDRESSING GUIDE OR, OR
UM, IT'S REALLY, WE'RE BOTH INVOLVED IN THAT RELATIONSHIP AND I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT BUDGET HEARING WILL FIX A LOT OF THAT PROBLEM.
UH, FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A GOOD PUSH PULL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GIS DATABASE.
WE HAVE AGREED TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY HOST IN MAINTAIN THE DATABASE FOR US THE WAY THE DISTRICT DOES AND THAT HOPEFULLY WILL SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
WE'LL HAVE CONSTANT DATA BEING PUSHED MORE EFFICIENTLY.
BUT ANYWAY, THERE'S TWO PARTS OF IT.
MSEG DATA, THE P EQUIPMENT IS WHAT WE DO AS OPPOSED TO OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE A EMERGENCY SERVICES, UH, DISTRICT LIKE PER COUNTY FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR COUNTY.
THE COS EXPERI THAT, I THINK HENDERSON COUNTY HAS THAT TOO.
THAT WAS DETERMINED YEARS AGO WHEN THEY YEAH, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T GO BACK UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU OH, THEIR ALTERNATIVE.
I DON'T BELIEVE OUT THERE WAS US.
AND IT, IT, IT WOULD BE NICE IN OUR CASE SINCE WE'RE MOVING TOWARD A COMBINED COMMUNICATION CENTER, BUT AT THIS POINT WE CAN'T, CAN'T GO BACK.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WHEN WE MOVE, YOU KNOW, THEY MANAGE ALL OUR FORESTS, YOU KNOW, SEAMLESS TRANSITION IS 9 1 1 COST, WE, THEY'LL PICK UP ALL THE COSTS, THEY WILL PROBABLY SHOW UP.
WE, 10 YEARS AGO WE MOVED OUT SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THERE WAS A MINIMAL FEE.
BRING PEOPLE OUT AND DO CIRCUIT CHANGES.
OTHER THAN THAT, THE EQUIPMENT JUST MOVES OVER.
OTHER QUESTIONS JIMMY? THAT TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO KNOW? I THINK SO.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO UH, ACCEPT THE AGREEMENT.
COMMISSIONER UH, CLARK MAKE THAT MOTION.
DO HAVE A SECOND SAY I, ITEM NUMBER 15 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE RESOLUTION REGARDING TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, TEXAS, TEXANS BEING TEXANS DELIVERED MAIL GRANT PROGRAM.
RAY, I THINK YOU'RE ON THAT BOARD.
UH, SENIOR CITIZEN BOARD THAT YOU WORK WITH.
THIS IS, I BELIEVE THIS IS PART OF THE, UH, AG COMMISSIONER PROGRAM WHERE WE PARTICIPATE A LITTLE BIT AND THEY THROW A LOT MORE MONEY IN THE POT FOR MEALS ON AND WE'VE ALWAYS PARTICIPATED OTHER AMOUNT OR CITIZEN AS REQUIRED.
YEAH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR MANY OF OUR ELDERLY THAT ARE STILL HOME THAT THIS VALUE THEM BECAUSE IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ONLY JUST UH, UH, MAKING SURE THEY GET THE NUTRITION THAT NEED IT.
HAVE SOMEBODY CHECK ON HER EVERY DAY.
THEY MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, DOWN OR SOMETIMES THEY GET THE BENCHES.
SO THESE PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTARILY GO AFTER AND MAKE THAT TELEPHONE CALL
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THIS PERSON.SO WE CONTRIBUTE A SMALL PORTION.
IT'S BASED ON, IT'S BASED ON UH, PER CAP.
YEAH, PER CAP BASIS BUDGET FOR, IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE EVERY YEAR.
THEY'RE GONNA REDUCE, THERE'S A WAITING LIST ON THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THESE, UH, SOME FEDERAL CUTS COME BACK, I, WE SOLVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.
THOSE BOTH ALL ITEM NUMBER, UH, SEVEN 16 IS TO CONSIDER INCREASING SUBDIVISION PLANNING FEES FOR THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COUNTY ENGINEER.
RAY, YOU HAD ASK THAT THIS, I WANT PUT THIS ON THERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT MAYBE WE HAD DONE THIS, BUT WE JUST GOT A REPORT FROM HIM THAT THIS WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY PUT THAT IN IN PLACE BECAUSE I CAN SEE WHAT THE ECONOMY COME AROUND LIKE IT DID THAT THERE'S GONNA BE MORE FLATS SUBMITTED.
AND AS YOU CAN TELL BY THAT LAST BILL WE GOT, WE NEED TO RAISE OUR FEES UP.
EITHER WE'RE GOING PAY FOR IT OR THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA PAY FOR IT.
SO I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THE FEES, UH, FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CONFIDENTLY AND THIS IS THROUGH TO THE SURVEY OF OUR ENGINEERING RIGHT.
QUESTIONS I'D TELL IT IS TIME FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, LET OUR USERS PAY, PAY THE FEES INSTEAD OF US RIGHT UP TAX.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
CONSIDER APPROVING MR. VINCENT PARK, UH, COVER THE COST OF MOVING HER RECOVER AND REPAIRING ROAD AFTER COVID IS MOVED LOCATED IN THE CEDAR CREEK COUNTRY CLUB.
THIS GOT ON AGENDA AT THE LAST MINUTE.
UH, THIS SHOULD READ PARKS CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT IT IS, MR. MR. PARKS IS BEING THERE, WHICH IS OWNED BY MR. PARKS.
RIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, HE WENT IN THERE AND BUILT HOUSES DOWN THERE IN THE CITY.
THERE'S AN EXISTING COUNTY COVER THAT CAME ACROSS THE ROAD AND CAME RIGHT UP TO HIS PROPERTY LINE, CONCRETE WATERWAY.
AND HE WANTED TO GO IN THERE AND MOVE THE COVER HIMSELF.
HIRED HIS CONTRACTOR, ALL STUFF.
WELL I TOLD HIM HE COULDN'T DO THIS, UH, BUT HE AGREED TO PAY FOR IT.
IF I'D GO IN THERE AND MOVE THE COVER, IT JUST GOTTA BE, IN OTHER WORDS, FROM BEING AT AN ANGLE ACROSS THE ROAD, ALL I GOTTA DO IS MOVE IT STRAIGHT AND THEN THE END OF IT WE'LL GO, WE GOING TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE COVER AND THEN THE END OF IT WILL, WILL END AT WHERE OUR RIGHT OF WAY STOP.
AND THEN HE'LL GO IN THERE ON HIS, ON HIS PROPERTY AND, AND FIX THE FLUE FOR THE WATER LOAD.
AND THEN WE'LL GO IN THERE AND OTHER WORDS, WE'LL MOVE THE CUP, PUT ROCK AROUND IT AND THEN, UH, HE AGREED TO BUY A LOAD COAL MIX ON IT TO MAKE ROAD NICE.
AND I JUST DIDN'T, I DIDN'T FINISH THE PROJECT GROUP UNTIL AFTER THE DEADLINE AND THAT'S WHY I GOT A PROJECT GROUP.
BUT I MOVED, WE APPROVED THIS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BENEFIT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AND ALSO WATER BY INCREASING THE SIZE OF, WELL THE PROJECT AGREEMENT IS, UH, REALLY AN APPLICABLE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I, I WAS GOING PICK ONE UP JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'VE HAD THAT IN THE PAST.
BELIEVE PROBABLY JUST ACCEPT THE DONATION FOR THE PAYMENT, WHICH WE APPROVE TO COVER THE COST OF IT AND WE'RE WOULD BE LIKE, WE'RE ACCEPTANCE OF HIS DONATION.
ANY QUESTIONS TO, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
UH, I BELIEVE YOU MADE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
A OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 18, IT IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER ADVERTISING SALE OF COUNTY SURPLUS SEEDS PROPERTIES THROUGH THE RENEE RENEE BATES ONLINE AUCTION AREA SERVICES.
JACK DOESN'T MAKE A SLIGHT CORRECTION THERE.
THE SHERIFF, UH, JUST TOLD ME THAT, UH, UH, THESE ARE NOT SEEDS, THEY'RE ABANDONED, SO
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SHOULD BE SURPLUS AND PROPERTY MINOR.WE, WE ARE, UH, I THINK, UH, FINALIZING THE, THE LIST FOR THE, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, TO SPEAK.
AND, UH, WE OUT TAKING THIS WEEK AND WE'LL GET THIS THING ADVERTISED AND, UH, TRY SALE ALL I, YOU GUYS, EVERYTHING THAT ADD TO THAT LIST.
WE HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT MAY HAVE SOME STUFF.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE AT THE, UH, WE HAD ONE VEHICLE THAT DIDN'T SELL AT THE SHELTER.
SHELTER AND WE HAVE ONE VEHICLE THAT WE, UH, HAD TO PULL BACK.
UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING.
I THINK I CALLED ONE LAST PUT BACK IN.
UH, BUT THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO DEPARTMENTS.
I'M NOT SURE WHETHER YOU TO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BARR, THAT YOU WANNA GET RID OF.
WE YOU TO PROJECT IT AND GO ONLINE WITH THIS JACK.
UH, WE'LL START TAKING PICTURES THIS WEEK AND, UH, WE, I'M SURE, UH, WE GET THE PICTURES, THEY GET LOADED UP.
I'M GOING, I'M GONNA GUESS IN ABOUT 10 DAYS WILL BE ALL ONLINE.
WHEN IS A DEADLINE FOR US TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE AUCTION? I DID.
WELL, I NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING PROBABLY SAY BY END OF WEEK BECAUSE WOULD HELP ME.
OUR GOAL IS GET, HAVE THE AUCTION, GET IT ALL DONE AND FINISH BY THE DAY THAT'S HERE.
OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, DID, UH, UH, JUST MADE A PERSONAL COMMITMENT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
WENT BACK SHERIFF'S VEHICLES THAT THEY SOLD.
WE TRIED VERY HARD TO PUT THAT IN A BUDGET TO BUY THEM ANOTHER SHARE VEHICLE WITH BE MYSELF, 10 OF THEM OUT THERE, WHATEVER, 10 WE APPLY THAT TO COST ONE OR WHATEVER.
WELL, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON DAY, BUT THAT WAS, AND THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING TO THAT EVERY DAY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WE GET.
WE'RE WE'RE MOVING, WE JACK'S GETTING, DO STUFF EVERY DAY.
THE THE SEIZED OR THE CIRCLES, VEHICLES.
DID THEY GO BACK TO THE SEIZE YOUR ACCOUNT? IS THAT A GOOD QUESTION? THIS, THIS IS NOT SEIZED.
THIS WOULD JUST BE I ABANDONED THEY GO TO THE GENERAL FUND ON MY, IS MY OKAY.
I THINK THE ABANDONED, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.
I THINK THERE WAS ONE, UH, DW BUG OUT THERE THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE ABANDONED.
THEY SELL THAT SEEDS UNDER THE, IT MAY BE ONE THAT, THAT WE PICKED UP AND THEY WOULDN'T MAYBE HAVE STOLEN THAT THE INSURANCE COMPANY WOULDN'T COME GET OR SOMETHING.
BUT MOST OF THE STUFF LIKE A TRAILER WE GET THAT'S GOT THE IDENTIFYING NUMBERS KNOCKED OFF OF, WE GET THAT AWARDED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THEN IF WE DON'T USE IT, THAT BECOMES SURPLUS PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE TWO, TWO KINDS OF PROPERTIES THAT JACK ACTUALLY SELLS TO THE SURFACE AND ABANDONED.
WE'VE GOT A TRAILER LOAD OF BICYCLES OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY COME FROM.
THEY SHOW UP, UH, PROBABLY STOLEN, BUT WE CAN'T EVER DO IT.
WE HAVE, WE MAY, UH, TAKE STOLEN PROPERTY OFF OF A, UH, WE'LL SAY AN AIR CONDITIONING UNIT OFF OF TRAILER WE KNOW STOLEN, BUT WE CAN NEVER IDENTIFY THAT.
SO THAT WILL BECOME THEN AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, UH, ABANDONED PROPERTY.
ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS, UH, UH, I NEED, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS NEED TO LET KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET FROM THAT LOT I THINK EQUIPMENT.
SO I NEED, I NEED TO, WE'LL HAVE A CUTOFF DATE THAT I DON'T WANT TO PUT ON ADVERTISEMENT.
WE'RE SELLING YOU ATE, WHERE IS ALL THOSE, ALL THE VEHICLES LOCATED.
THERE'S UH, SOME MY LOCATION, SOME CAMPUS BIG PORTIONS OF THE BACK OF, I'M SORRY.
WE TAKE EVERYTHING FROM ARMORY.
WELL, EXCEPT FOR WHAT'S AT THE SOUTH, MOST OF IT.
BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO LOOK.
YOU LET ME KNOW BECAUSE IT, IT'S A PROBLEM.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO JACK SALE? APPRECIATE YOU GETTING THIS DONE BEFORE THE END OF BOTH YEAR VERY MUCH.
UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT OR MAKES THE MOTION COMMANDING SECONDS.
WE'RE GETTING YOU GUYS SLOWLY, UH, REVIEW CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
CHAPTER 2 62 0.0276 RESTRICTION ON FUTURE COUNTY TRANSACTIONS OR CONTRACT WITH PERSONS INDEBTED
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TO THE COUNTY AT THE TIME OF THE TRANSACTION OF CONTRACT COURT ORDER TO APPROVE SAME SHALL BE ENTERED EXTRA 10 DAYS OF PUBLIC NOTICE IN A GENERAL, UH, OF A NEWSPAPER.GENERAL CIRCULATION IN COLTON COUNTY.
JOHN, UH, UH, PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND UH, AT MY REQUEST.
AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOES IS, IS THAT IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH IN COLTON COUNTY, A VENDOR OR A CONTRACTOR OR SOMEBODY, UH, THAT WE WILL NOT, UH, DO BUSINESS WITH AND UH, WE'VE STILL GOTTA WRITE THE RULES FOR THAT, BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC NOTICE.
THIS AND THE QUESTION COMES, DOES THIS APPLY TO THE EMPLOYEES? AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE RULE MAKING THING WILL COME INTO PLACE.
PEOPLE THAT PERHAPS OWE THE OF TAXES OR SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD THIS ONLY BE FOR TAXES OR WOULD IT BE UM, NO, IT COULD BE FOR ANY FEE IN TOWN.
UH, AND THESE, WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS, I DON'T THINK TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT IT, IT MAKES SENSE.
YOU MENTIONED KEN ONE TIME YOU THOUGHT MAYBE, BUT IT MAKES SENSE THAT THIS, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE JUST NEVER DO IT.
IT JUST KIND OF MAKES SENSE THAT, UH, I BROUGHT THAT COURT I THINK HERE COUPLE YEARS AGO WE HAD A LOCAL GUY THAT, UH, UH, WE BOUGHT A VEHICLE, CLAIMED OUT A GOOD TITLE AND UH, UH, GET THE TITLE, THE COUNTY MONEY, TRYING TO GET THAT TITLE.
I SPENT HALF DAY CAR GET MONEY PERSON ALSO DOES IN ACCOUNTING.
SO IT'S A GOOD TOOL THAT UH, IF THEY'RE MAKES IT EASIER ON MY END IF I BID BID.
AND THIS SETS THE NOTICE OF PUTTING IT IN ACTION.
WE HAVE TO PUT NEWSPAPER ADVERTISING.
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE, UH, JOHN WILL COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO ENFORCE IT.
I MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UH, VOCATION CODE 2 62 0 2 7 6 AND ALL THE RULES GO WITH, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PARK, I BELIEVE MR. SHANE SECOND.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'RE GETTING THERE, BUT IT'S UH, EVERYBODY TAKE NOTE.
NEVER DONE SOME PEOPLE TO GET IN A BAD MOOD EVERY DAY.
DID Y'ALL REVIEW THESE? UH, WE EMAILED TO YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
READY? ANYBODY GOT ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS WITH KAREN? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
SO MOTION FOR PERMISSION MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 22 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIM.
RIGHT FOR PAYMENT ARE $1,000,273 30 CENTS.
WHICH ONE OF THESE TODAY'S YOU CAN ANSWER FOR TWO QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I EMAILED YOU RIGHT BACK.
I EMAILED YOU BACK ON THOSE TWO.
NOW HE GOT MY EMAIL LAST WEEK, DIDN'T HE? IT WAS A COME THROUGH HERE.
PREPARED COUNTY PROPERTY WAS ONE OF THEM.
DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE WHAT IT FOR AND THE OTHER
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PROFESSIONAL SERVICES PROPERTY PROFESSIONAL.TWO NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED THOSE TABLETS BE EASY TO AMENDMENT TRANSFER.
WE DIDN'T DO BUDGET AMENDMENT.
DO WE NEED TO, SIR, DO WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT? YES SIR.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DONE WITH JUST LINE TRANSFERS.
THAT IS BY WAY WE'RE GETTING LINED UP ON TEXAS PROGRAM SO SHE CAN DO THE SAME THING THAT ANNETTE, SHE TALKED SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES AND THEY'RE DOING ACCURATE.
DOES COLLECTION GET THAT OPTION ALSO? JUDGE, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHY NOT? I MEAN, UH, WE HAVE TO VERIFY THE APPLICATION TO US AND VERIFY EMPLOYMENT.
UH, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
I MEAN, ANYTHING THAT CAN INCREASE COLLECTIONS, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT ANY LEFT THERE TODAY.
SO THEY HAD ACCESS TO IT BEFORE.
WHAT DO I NEED TO DO? UH, I'LL PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE LADY AT THE ONLY THING I, ON ONE OF THESE BEEN HOLDING SINCE BEEN HOLDING BILL SINCE FEBRUARY FROM MARCH.
WHAT DO THEY, WHAT DO THEY DO? KAREN? THAT'S YOUR ACTUARIAL STUDY THAT HAS TO BE DONE FOR TWO YEARS.
I SIGNED, SIGNED THE CONTRACT AND THEN WE HAD TO UPDATE THE ALL RIGHT.
WHO'S, WHAT'S THIS? TRUST ACCOUNT? TRUST ACCOUNT.
THAT'S ON THE OH, THOSE WERE ORDERS SENT BY DEFENDER.
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IN THE INTEREST OF WHAT? IN THE INTEREST OF, AND THE ONLY YOU KNOW TO DO ALL THEY HAVE YOU SEEN.BASICALLY IT'S HALF OF THIS AND YOUR IPAD JUST SITS ON THE FRONT OF IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A SINGLE SHEET SORT THING AND
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YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT LOOKS GOOD.DOES HE HAVE COW CATTLE? WE DID 11.
HOPEFULLY I SUFFICIENT FOR WHAT YOU I'M ALREADY FEEDING.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT HAY, YOU KNOW.
SORRY, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF HAY THERE.
I KNOW WHERE THAT YOU CAN'T DO BUSINESS IN THE GOVERNMENT OFFICE.
THE FOUR CHECKOUT THURSDAY, AUGUST 1ST.
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OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE, UH, OUR ARCHITECT DO A TECHNICALHOW CAN HE, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CANON DIGIT, MY WIFE GET ME UP TO 10 CALL EVERY 10 MINUTES.
PHONE THIS TO GRAND AUGUST 29.
INDEX INDEX DATA, RIGHT? AUGUST 29.
I BET YOU'RE GONNA BE DOWN THERE.
ACTUALLY THE LIGHT SIZE TECHNOLOGY WITH THAT TYPE OF CAMERA.
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WHATEVER, WHATEVER VERSION WHERE YOU TAKE THE DEVICE STREAM, IT'LL PUSH THE, YOU HAVE TO INCORPORATE NATIVE STREAMING BOTTLE.DIDN'T YOU ARE GONNA START GETTING THESE BILLS OR A COPY OF, I NEED SLOW ABOUT STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ALL THESE BILLS.
I, WE HAD ONE OFFICE S HOOKUPS.
YEAH, I FIGURED OUT THE WATER SCENARIO.
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I TRY TO FIX THAT.ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, PAY THE BILLS.
MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION.
AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS TO ADJOURN.