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           WE'RE GOING, GOING TO, UH, BEGIN THE COURT MEETING JUST IN A FEW MOMENTS. 
          UH, IF YOU WOULD, UH, I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU'VE ALREADY SIGNED UP TO, UH, SPEAK IN THE OPEN, UH, PORTION OF THE, UH, MEETING THAT YOU'VE NOT DONE. 
          SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME SIGN IN SHEETS, UH, THAT ARE AVAILABLE THERE. 
          AND, UH, UH, I KNOW, UH, THE REASON MANY OF YOU ARE HERE, AND CERTAINLY WE WANT TO, UH, UH, HEAR FROM AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. 
          UH, I WOULD ASK YOU IF IT'S POSSIBLE IN SOME INSTANCES, IF YOU CAN COMBINE YOUR COMMENTS WITH OTHERS, UH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          WE HAVE A PRETTY LINKED AGENDA THIS MORNING, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN HEARING YOUR COMMENTS, BUT IT WILL ASSIST US. 
          UH, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER COMBINING YOUR COMMENTS WITH OTHERS, I'M NOT REQUIRING YOU TO DO THAT. 
          MIGHT BE HELPFUL THAT THROUGH. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, I HAVE PREPARED SOME DOCUMENTS THAT, UH, I BELIEVE ARE OVER ON THE, UH, TABLE, UH, CONCERNING, UH, OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THEY HERE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT AN AVERAGE EMPLOYEE, UH, THE BENEFITS PLUS SALARY COST, COFFMAN COUNTY. 
          UH, THIS IS FACTUAL INFORMATION AND I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD FIND IT INTERESTING. 
          UH, JUST SO YOU WILL KNOW, WE WILL BE, UH, UH, ADJOURNING. 
          WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE A RECESS AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS MORNING MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK IN THIS ROOM THIS AFTERNOON AS WE GO THROUGH THE DELIBERATIONS ON THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          AND, UH, NO BUDGET HAS BEEN ADOPTED. 
          UH, WE PLAN ON ADOPTING THE BUDGET AT OUR FIRST REGULAR MEETING IN, UH, THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE ALL HERE, UH, WE, UH, WANT YOUR COMMENTS, BUT I WANTED TO AT LEAST LET YOU KNOW THAT. 
          SO WE'LL BE A MINUTE, UH, MEETING IN JUST, UH, JUST A MOMENT OR SO. 
          CHIEF EVANS, IF YOU'LL KIND ANY OTHERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP HERE, WE HAVE A, WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, LIKE, TO DO SO. 
          AND THIS ALL, OH, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'LL STAND HERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY, AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE MONDAY, AUGUST 26TH MEETING OF THE, UH,  COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT. 
          WE DO WELCOME. 
          WE HAVE A GREAT CROWD THIS MORNING, AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME TO COME OUT AND BE AT OUR COURT MEETING. 
          WE'LL BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH OUR INVOCATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO VOTE, THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO REMARKS FROM VISITORS. 
          AND SO, IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN STANDING NOW, WE'LL HAVE OUR INVITATION. 
          MOST GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR TODAY. 
          WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AS CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY AND OF THIS STATE, AND OF THIS GREAT NATION. 
          LORD, IF WE DON'T TAKE OUR LIBERTY AND OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR FREEDOM, UH, QUIETLY, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AND OPENNESS AND FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE. 
          LORD, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR THOSE, UH, 
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THAT, UH, GUARD US EVERY DAY THAT TAKE CARE OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF OUR COUNTY WHO GIVE THEIR ALL AND WORKING TOWARDS MAKING OUR COUNTY A BETTER COUNTY. 
          UH, LORD, AS WE MOVE FORWARD TODAY, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU GIVE US AS COMMISSIONERS AND AS EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY AND ALL THOSE THAT ARE HERE, THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON, UH, AND THE PATIENCE OF JOE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, UH, WORKING TOWARDS ADOPTING A BUDGET. 
          AND, UH, LORD, HELP US REMEMBER YOUR GRACE AND THE FACT THAT YOU DEALT WITH, UH, YOUR, UH, KINGDOM AND THE WORDS OF, UH, WISDOM THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED US, UH, THROUGH YOUR HOLY WORD. 
          WE PRAY ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME, AMEN. 
          AMEN. 
          THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          I HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, REMARKS FROM VISITORS. 
          I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP TO ADDRESS. 
          FIRST PERSON ON THE LIST THAT I HAVE IS, UH,  FROM NEY. 
          AND, UH, UH, WE DO, UH, ASK THAT OUR REMARKS BE KEPT FOR THREE MINUTES. 
          AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL TIMEKEEPER OR NOT, BUT WE ALL COME UP TO THE FRONT SPEED, IDENTIFY YOURSELVES, SO BE GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME'S JOEY STEWART. 
          I'M A COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND A CITIZEN OF COURT, AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER'S COURT. 
          OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS SENT A NEGATIVE MESSAGE TO SOME OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES, WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS THE INTENT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. 
          FIRST, I'M GONNA SPEAK OF THE PRIVATIZATION. 
          THAT WAS A VERY SCARY THING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          IT WASN'T OUR DECISION TO MAKE, BUT WE HUNG IN THERE AND WE KNEW THAT WHATEVER WAS GONNA HAPPEN WAS GONNA HAPPEN. 
          BUT WHEN THE EMPLOYEE PROTECTION CLAUSE WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA, UH, OR I'M SORRY, WHEN IT WAS DELETED, UM, FROM THE RFP, IT LEFT A LOT OF US WONDERING, DO OUR COMMISSIONERS CARE ABOUT US? YOU CARE ABOUT OUR FAMILIES, OUR RETIREMENTS, OUR FUTURES, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE BOTTOM DOLLAR THAT MATTERS. 
          AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, THOSE POSITIONS AT THE JAIL ARE NOT A LUXURY. 
          I'VE WORKED BACK THERE AS A SUPERVISOR. 
          I'VE TAKEN OUT TRASH. 
          I HAVE HAD INMATE, I HAVE BROKEN UP FIGHTS. 
          THERE'S NOT ONE POSITION BACK HERE THAT IS A LUXURY. 
          UM, ASIDE FROM THE WALKTHROUGH VISITS THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE DONE, HOW MUCH TIME HAVE YOU SPENT BACK THERE? BECAUSE I'M STANDING HERE TALKING TO THE COURT ABOUT THIS, I'M ASSUMING THAT IT HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE YOU WOULD SEE THAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE NOT LECTURE. 
          UM, I'VE NEVER CONSTRUCTED A ROAD IN MY LIFE. 
          I'VE SEEN 'EM CONSTRUCTED, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ME AN EXPERT. 
          IF I WERE PUT IN A POSITION TO CONSTRUCT A ROAD, I WOULD SEEK OUT THE ADVICE OF EVERY PERSON I KNEW WHO DID IT EVERY DAY AND SEE IF I'M DOING IT WAY. 
          WHAT SUGGESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? AND I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROAD SERVED ON PUBLIC. 
          NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM OUR RETIREMENT. 
          MANY OF US STARTED OUR JOBS HERE IN COFFMAN COUNTY. 
          MANY OF US WANT TO RETIRE FROM HERE. 
          THE PERCEPTION IS THIS IS A SHELL GAME. 
          SMOKE AND MIRRORS. 
          YOU'RE TAKING SOME, GIVING IT TO US IN THE FORM OF ANOTHER RAISE OR A RAISE, I'M SORRY. 
          THE LAST RAISE I THINK WE HAD WAS SIX YEARS AGO. 
          UM, I WANT MY RETIREMENT LEFT ALONE. 
          THESE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH ME WANT THEIR RETIREMENT LEFT ALONE. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THE JOB HAS ASKED OF US. 
          WHEN WE GET THE CALL, WE ANSWER. 
          UM, THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNTY, NOT JUST THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, NOT JUST THE DA'S OFFICE FOR THE COUNTY. 
          IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT. 
          MANY OF US WERE WEEDS AROUND THE CLOCK. 
          WE LEFT OUR FAMILIES AT HOME. 
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OUR CHILDREN CONCERNED. 
          THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT WE STILL SHOWED UP EVERY DAY. 
          AND WE STILL DO. 
          AND I'LL DO IT AGAIN IF I'M EVER CALLED. 
          EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE IN HERE WILL DO THE EXACT SAME. 
          I KNOW THAT GOES ALL MY HEART. 
          YOU HAVE DEDICATED LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS COUNTY. 
          HOW MANY I JUST ASKED. 
          I WANT TO MAKE MYSELF CLEAR. 
          WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR BECAUSE OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN IN THIS ROOM. 
          I DON'T THINK THE COURT WANTS TO BE LEFT WITH THE LEGACY OF YOUR TERM AS THE COMMISSIONERS WHO DIDN'T CARE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR EMPLOYEES. 
          THAT'S THE PERCEPTION THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN. 
          THAT IS HOW PEOPLE SEE THINGS. 
          IT'S TAKE, TAKE TAPE. 
          IN THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE, WE HAVE NEVER ASKED FOR A REFERENDUM FOR A PAY RAISE. 
          WE HAVE TAKEN WHAT RAISES WE HAVE GOTTEN AND, AND WE'VE GONE ON ANY WORK HARD. 
          I JUST ASK THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM CHAD HILL. 
          UH, MY NAME CHAD HILL, LIVE IN SCURRY, TEXAS. 
          I'M A COUNTY EMPLOYEE TOO, AS WELL AS A TAXPAYER IN THIS COUNTY. 
          AND ON THIS RETIREMENT ISSUE, I'VE DONE SOME FIGURE AND I WAS SITTING DOWN THE OTHER DAY AND IN MY RETIREMENT, THERE'S $40,000 SITTING THERE RIGHT NOW. 
          GIVE OR TAKE YOU THOUGH. 
          THAT'S WHAT, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, CUTTING 1% OFF THE BUYER INVESTMENT BETWEEN INVEST 7%. 
          IF THE COUNTY MATCHES THE TWO TO ONE, WHICH WOULD BE YOU TAKE 1% OFF, IT GIVES ME 6% IN YOUR INVESTMENT AS WELL. 
          I PLAN ON WORKING 21 MORE YEARS HERE, DONE NINE AND A HALF ALREADY, 30 YEARS. 
          IF I DO THAT, THAT'S $56,440, 45 CENTS OF MY MONEY NOT GOING IN MY RETIREMENT. 
          THE COUNTY MATCHES. 
          A TWO TO ONE IS GONNA BE A TOTAL OF $169,321 35 CENTS. 
          I DUNNO ABOUT Y'ALL. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO ME. 
          AND PUTTING 30 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE IN THIS COUNTY, I BELIEVE I'M WORTH KEEPING MY RETIREMENT ALONE. 
          NOW, ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, I, I'M ALSO WITH MS. STEWART THERE. 
          WE WORKED COUNTLESS HOURS BACK THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR. 
          MY WIFE LAID BY HER BED WITH A SHOTGUN BECAUSE I GOT A 2-YEAR-OLD, SIX YEAROLD. 
          NOW THAT I WAS GONE, I WAS AT JUDGE'S HOUSES, I WAS AT DA EMPLOYEES COURTHOUSE, EMPLOYEE'S HOUSES, ALL THAT LONG, ALL NIGHT LONG BEING MY FAMILY HOME THE OTHER DAY, MY LITTLE BOY MAINTENANCE TEACHER, WHERE WAS AT IN, IN THAT SQUAD CAR PATROLLING YOUR STREETS. 
          DIDN'T GET TO MEET THE TEACHER TODAY, MY SON'S FIRST DAY OF FIRST GRADE, GUESS WHERE I'M AT IN THIS MEETING. 
          DIDN'T GET TO TAKE HIM. 
          I MIGHT GET TO PICK HIM UP, BUT I DIDN'T GET TO TAKE HIM. 
          I WALKED IN SOME OF THE POOR HO THAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFE. 
          I WEAR THAT VEST AND THAT BADGE PRIDE. 
          I PUT CPS ON A CASE THE OTHER DAY, PULLED SOME CHILDREN OUT OF IT BECAUSE THE DADDY WAS SEXUALLY A ASSAULTING THE DAUGHTER, GOT THE DADDY PUT IN JAIL. 
          WE DO THESE THINGS. 
          IT AIN'T FOR THE MONEY. 
          WE DO IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO IT IN OUR COUNTY. 
          I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS COUNTY. 
          MY NAME GOES 80 YEARS BACK IN THIS COUNTY. 
          I DON'T DO IT FOR THE MONEY, BUT BY GOD WE NEED SOMETHING. 
          I DON'T WANNA WORK ALL MY LIFE, YOU KNOW, AT 55 I'D LIKE TO RETIRE AND DRAW SOME BENEFITS WITHOUT IT GETTING TOUCHED. 
          WE GOT COUNTY EMPLOYEES HERE THAT ARE MAKING LESS MONEY THAN I'S GOT LESS MONEY IN THEIR RETIREMENT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME CUT. 
          IF OUR RETIREMENT GETS TOUCHED, WE PUT THAT BADGE AND THAT VEST ON EVERY DAY, NOT KNOWING IF WE'RE GONNA COME HOME. 
          YOU KNOW, I TELL MY WIFE, I LOVE YOU. 
          I'LL SEE YOU THIS EVENING. 
          NOT KNOWING IF I'M GONNA SEE HER. 
          MY LITTLE BOY AT FOUR YEARS OLD WAS SITTING AT THE WINDOW AND I WALKED IN AND SAID, DADDY, DON'T GET SHOT TODAY. 
          TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO CALL AND SIT THAT DAY. 
          HARRY STANDS UP BACK ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK. 
          BUT I'VE GOT A JOB TO DO BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY. 
          AND I GO OUT AND DO IT. 
          MINUTES HOW MANY YOUR TIME UP? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          I JUST HOPE THAT Y'ALL SEE IT IN YOUR HEARTS NOT TO CUT OUR RETIREMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT WILL BE CAROL KIRBY AND, UH, CAROL, I DON'T HAVE WHERE YOU'RE FROM, BUT IF YOU COME UP AND, UH, TO HEAR, THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING TODAY. 
          UM, I HAVEN'T PREPARED ANYTHING, SO EVERYTHING 
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I'M GONNA SAY IS GONNA COME TO MY HEART. 
          I'VE PRAISE OUT THIS AND EVERYTHING, AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          I'VE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE COUNTY JUST SHY OF 10 YEARS, COUPLE MONTHS, SHY OF 10 YEARS. 
          I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED IN MANY POSITIONS, CI PATROL, SRO, BAILOR COURTHOUSE, AND NOW CURRENTLY IN A JAIL. 
          THAT BEING THE CASE, MY HEART IS THERE FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE JAIL. 
          AND WE ARE SO GLAD THAT THINGS HAVE SO FORTH HAVE TURNED OUT AS THEY HAVE REGARDING ATION. 
          THAT WAS JUST, AGAIN, LIKE, UH, LIEUTENANT'S CHURCH SAID, YOU JUST HAVE TO BE THERE. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE THERE. 
          YOU CAN'T JUST ASSUME YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IT'S GONNA TAKE TO DO THAT POSITION TO, TO BE SAFE. 
          I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES IN A WEEK A ROTATION, IF THERE'S AN ALL CALL, AN ALL CALL MEANS ALL OFFICERS. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE A 20 SOMETHING MAN TANK AND YOU WANT HOW MANY OFFICERS TO GO IN THERE, ONE, IF YOU CUT US LIKE Y'ALL WANTED TO CUT US, THEN WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA NOT BE SAFE BECAUSE YOU HAVE 20 SOMETHING TO OUR ONE OR TWO. 
          IT'S INSANE. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THAT ASIDE IS THAT'S, THAT'S GONE. 
          BUT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT Y'ALL TO TAKE OUR RETIREMENT. 
          I'VE BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT 20 SOMETHING YEARS, SO I'M REAL CLOSE. 
          I STARTED MY FEAR IN DALLAS AND HERE, HERE I'M IN KAMAN AND I'VE SPENT THE LAST 20 SOMETHING YEARS, INMAN DOWN HERE. 
          SO I'M CLOSE AND I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT MARK, AS ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS, THIS, AND FOR YOU TO TAKE FROM MY MONEY AND TELL ME THAT'S A RACE, THAT'S MY RACE, THAT'S TAKING MY MONEY, GETTING IT RIGHT BACK TO YOU IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          I'M, I'M JUST, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. 
          DON'T GIMME A RAISE. 
          LEAVE MY MONEY ALONE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I WOULD ASK THAT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THE ORDER AND DIGNITY OF THE COURT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE EMOTIONALISM OF THIS, BUT I APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONALISM AND THE COURTESY OF THOSE THAT HAVE SPOKEN, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          THIS IS A COURTROOM. 
          I WOULD ASK THAT THAT, THAT ANY DISPLAY LIKE THAT NOT NOT OCCUR. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S NOT LACK OF RESPECT, IT'S JUST THAT WE WANT MAINTAIN THE DIGNITY OF THIS COURTROOM. 
          THE NEXT WOULD BE, UH, JESSE WILDER, WHO, UH, UH, LIVES ON IN KAUFMAN, WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT AS WELL. 
          GOOD MORNING, MR. GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UM, COUPLE OF LITTLE ISSUES THAT TELL IN COMPARISON TO WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING WITH TODAY. 
          IT'S THE TIME WE HAD TO COME AND SEEK Y'ALL ATTENTION ON IT. 
          I LIVE ON TRAVIS LANE, COUNTY ROAD. 
          1 43 IS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO ME. 
          COUNTY ROAD 1 43. 
          THE TREES ARE GROWING OVER THE ROAD WHERE A CAR CANNOT PASS A SCHOOL BUS WITHOUT SOMEBODY GETTING IN THE DITCH OR GETTING IN THE TREES. 
          UH, SOME OF THOSE ROADS WERE IMPROVED UPON HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. 
          TRAVIS LANE WAS SKIPPED. 
          I CALLED AT THAT TIME AND I CALLED EVERY YEAR SINCE THE FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED AT THAT RESIDENCE AND THAT ROAD HAS NOT BEEN FIXED YET. 
          THE PATCHWORK THAT THEY CALL PATCHING, IT MAKES IT AS BAD OR WORSE. 
          UM, I'VE CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MANY TIMES ABOUT STRAYING WILD DOGS AND PEOPLE NOT PUTTING THEIR DOGS UP AND LOSING LIVESTOCK. 
          I LOSE A MINIMUM OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN LIVESTOCK SINCE I'VE MOVED THERE. 
          UM, BASICALLY TOLD IT'S MY PROBLEM. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE'S DOG CAN'T. 
          OUR TAX DOLLARS GO THERE. 
          I KNOW THERE'S FINES TO BE, YOU KNOW, PAID ON THAT STUFF. 
          IF TICKETS ARE WRITTEN, Y'ALL ARE HERE ADDRESSING REVENUE ISSUES AS IT IS, AND YET REVENUE POSSIBILITIES ARE IGNORED. 
          UM, SAME THING WITH ENFORCEMENT OF CODES, WITH VEHICLES PILING UP AND PEOPLE HAVING JUNK YARDS, STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          I CALLED DIFFERENT TIMES. 
          SOME ATTENTION WAS GIVEN BUT NEVER TAKEN CARE OF. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          ANOTHER ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS LIGHTLY IS, UH, I'VE GOTTEN INVOLVED WITH THE COUNTY FAIR ASSOCIATION AND TRYING TO GET SOME THINGS GOING OUT THERE. 
          UM, MAYBE Y'ALL CAN TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO DO TO GET MORE EDUCATED ON THE PROCESS. 
          I SEE LOTS OF COUNTY DOLLARS GOING INTO BALL FIELDS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, VERY LITTLE COUNTY DOLLARS TAX DOLLARS GOING INTO THE FAIR ASSOCIATION. 
          AND 
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I DON'T HAVE STATISTICS OR ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD SAY THE LIKELIHOOD IS GREAT THAT A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THOSE KIDS INVOLVED IN AGRICULTURE ARE GONNA PURSUE THAT VERSUS THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THAT ARE INVOLVED AND PLAY IN BALL. 
          HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE GONNA GO ON TO BE PROFESSIONAL BALL PLAYERS? SO IF WE'RE GONNA INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ANDRE THOSE BENEFITS FOR OUR OWN CHILDREN, I ASK THEM TO PUT THE DOLLARS, WHETHER IT BE FURTHER SERVED IN THE FUTURE. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          NEXT, UH, GAIL KINS, UH, FROM THE COUNTY 1 0 4 HERE IN COUNTY. 
          MY NAME IS GAIL ASINS AND I'M A DETENTION OFFICER AT THE CONEY COUNTY JAIL. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO REDUCE THE BUDGET. 
          EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO CUT COSTS, BUT I DON'T FEEL THAT CUTTING THE JAIL EMPLOYEES IS A PLACE TO START. 
          WE ARE OPERATING ON BARELY ENOUGH STAFF TO MEET JAIL STANDARDS. 
          THIS IS A SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUE FOR THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE INMATES AND CITIZENS OF KAMAN COUNTY. 
          CURRENTLY OUR STAFF IS OPERATING ON A SKELETON CREW. 
          THE DETENTION OFFICERS ARE BEING CALLED IN ON A REGULAR BASIS WHEN THEY'RE ON CALL. 
          AND IN SOME INSTANCES PEOPLE ARE BEING ASKED TO COME IN WHEN THEY'RE NOT ON CALL. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON SALARY AND WE DON'T GET PAID OVERTIME. 
          SO WE GET TO USE THAT AS COMP TIME. 
          HOWEVER, WE CAN'T SPREAD THE OFFICERS FOR THE TIME FOR THEM TO TAKE OFF. 
          IT IS DIFFICULT TO SCHEDULE DETENTION OFFICERS FOR THE TIME OFF AND HAVE THEY HAVE ACCUMULATED DUE TO THE SHORTAGE OF OFFICERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          WE NEED MORE DETENTION OFFICERS, NOT LESS. 
          YOU MAY THINK THAT ALL WE DO IS PUT AN INMATE IN A CELL AND IT ENDS THERE. 
          THIS CANNOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF DUTIES INVOLVED IN THE HOUSING AND INMATE TO STAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE JAIL STANDARDS AND COFFMAN JAIL POLICY. 
          SOME OF THE, THE DUTIES INCLUDE MEDICAL SAFETY ISSUES, INMATE RIGHTS, SCANNING CELLS EVERY 25 MINUTES, AND IN SOME CASES EVERY 15 OTHER DUTIES INCLUDE MAKING SURE THAT THE INMATES SCHEDULE, UH, MAKE THEIR SCHEDULED COURT DATES ON TIME. 
          THIS CANNOT BE DONE IF WE'RE, UH, PROPERLY, IF WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED, PLEASE RECONSIDER CUTTING THE JAIL STAFF BECAUSE OF THE SECURITY OF OUR OFFICERS. 
          UM, SHOULD BE AT THE FRONT OF YOUR MIND. 
          WE NEED TO HAVE THE MANPOWER TO HANDLE ANY SITUATION THAT COMES ALONG. 
          AS YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH THESE INMATES, IT CAN BECOME DANGEROUS AT ANY TIME AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PROPER MANPOWER TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. 
          WE NEED MORE DETENTION OFFICERS, NOT LESS. 
          ANOTHER, UH, ISSUE IS, UH, THAT'S ON THE BUDGET, IS THAT OUR RETIREMENT, THE AMOUNT OF RETIREMENT WE WOULD CONTRIBUTE IS BEING REDUCED FROM THE 7% TO SIX THAT WE CONTRIBUTE. 
          AND THE MATCHING IS GOING FROM 14 TO 12. 
          AND AS I UNDERSTAND, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GIVE US A 3% RAISE. 
          DO THE MATH. 
          WE'RE NOT GETTING A RAISE. 
          WE'RE PAYING FOR IT OURSELVES OUT OF OUR OWN RETIREMENT. 
          HOW'S THAT A RAISE? I GUESS IT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER. 
          IF IT LOOKS LIKE A RAISE, I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE OTHER PLACES TO TRIM THE BUDGET. 
          DOING IT THIS WAY. 
          OUR RETIREMENT IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US HERE. 
          PLEASE DON'T CUT OUR RETIREMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT WILL BE DAVID THOMAS FROM UH, 29 65. 
          THE WILLS POINT ADDRESS WITH ASHLEY LIVES COUNTY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THANK YOU YOUR HONOR. 
          THE COURT COMMISSIONERS AND YOUR HONOR, I HAVE THE PAPERWORK HERE THAT Y'ALL PASS THOSE AROUND. 
          HOW WE GO HAVE A COPY. 
          WHAT I'M GONNA GO ABOUT, MY NAME'S DAVID THOMPSON. 
          I LIVE IN THE NORTHEASTERN PORT IN COL COUNTY. 
          I HAVE A WILL POINT ADDRESS AS THE CHILDREN DO LIVE OUT IN THAT AREA. 
          SOME OF THEM PRECINCT ONE, SOME OF THEM ARE IN PRECINCT THREE, THEY'RE FORCED TO GO TO THE WILLMORE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          I'M A MEMBER OF THE CALIN COUNTY JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW. 
          THIS SHOW BOARD WILL NOT LET THESE CHILDREN SHOW BE MARKET ANIMALS AND CALIN COUNTY JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHELTER BECAUSE THEY'RE FORCED TO GO TO . 
          THIS IS WRONG. 
          I'VE TRIED DILIGENTLY TWO YEARS AGO, TRIED TO GET THIS SHOW TO CHANGE THE RULES. 
          WE'VE GOT A COPY OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED THIS YEAR. 
          THEY SHOOT ME DOWN EVERY TIME. 
          THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU A REASON WHY THEY WON'T LET THE CHILDREN SHOW BE MARKET SHOW. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S IN THE BOOK FOLKS. 
          THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          THESE PARENTS PAY TAXES. 
          THEY VOTE. 
          IT'S NOT THESE CHILDREN FAULT. 
          IT'S THE SCHOOL LINES ARE DRAWN WHERE THEY'VE GOT GOOD WILL GOING TO GO OUTTA COUNTY. 
          IF YOU HAVE AN OUTTA COUNTY PERSON PAY THE 
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TRANSFER FEE THAT TRANSFERS INTO A SCHOOL, EVEN THOUGH WE STILL LIVE OUT OF  COUNTY, THEY CAN SHOW, IF YOU GO TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL IN DALLAS, YOU LIVE IN GALMAN COUNTY, YOU CAN SHOW. 
          BUT THESE KIDS ARE SINGLED OUT AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S AN INJUSTICE TO, IT'S A SHAME FOR THIS SHOW TO THIS COUNTY TO TREAT THESE KIDS THAT WAY. 
          AND I ASKED YOU ABOUT IT FOLKS. 
          I'VE GOT A YOUNG MAN WITH A FRESHMAN WHEN I STARTED THIS, HE STARTS IN JUNIOR YEAR. 
          TODAY HE'S LOSING OUT ON CHANCE SCHOLARSHIPS, LOUISIANA CHANCE BUILT HIS RESUME TO GO ON FOR COLLEGE AND SO FORTH FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THEY WON'T LET HIM SHOW. 
          AND THIS IS WRONG, BUT I KNOW Y'ALL REACHED THE GROUND AND THERE'S A COPY IN THERE OF THE CONSTITUTION. 
          AND ARTICLE TWO SAYS, THE OBJECT OF THIS ORGANIZATION SHALL BE TO PROMOTE THE INTEREST AND WELFARE OF THE AGRICULTURE YOUTH OF CAMAN COUNTY. 
          IT DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU GO TO SCHOOL OR WHATEVER, BUT THESE KIDS, A MEMBER OF OUR  COUNTY FOUR H CLUB, AN ORGANIZATION THAT THIS COURT SPONSORS AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP THAT Y'ALL GIVE US. 
          BUT THEN TURN RIGHT AROUND AND HAVE THOSE KIDS IN THAT AREA. 
          YOU CAN'T PLAY ON OUR BALLPARK. 
          WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND A BIG KID BULLYING A LITTLE KID ON A SCHOOL DRAIN. 
          NOW WHAT'S HAPPENED, TODAY'S SOCIETY BECAUSE OF THAT, YOUR HONOR, AND AS A VOTER REGISTER OF DALTON COUNTY, I BACK MY VOICE AND KEEP OUR CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE SIGNED UP THAT WISH TO SPEAK HAVE IS ANYONE HERE THAT HAS NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO SO AT THIS TIME? I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          LEMME THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM. 
          UH, THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY AND THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY, UH, AND YOUR, THE WAY YOU PRESENTED YOURSELF THIS MORNING, THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED IS ALWAYS HELPFUL. 
          UH, WE ARE CERTAINLY PROUD. 
          I KNOW I'M CERTAINLY PROUD OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND, UH, WHETHER IT'S A MEMBER OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR CONSTABLE OR JAIL OR WHATEVER AREA THAT SERVES, UH, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING BE MEETING, UH, AFTER LUNCH TODAY. 
          WE'LL RECESS AND HAVE A MEETING BACK IN THIS VERY ROOM THIS AFTERNOON IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT. 
          AND WE'LL BE DISCUSSING BUDGET INFORMATION. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          I'D LIKE TO SAY JUST WHAT I'M ALLOWED TO ADDRESS MYSELF. 
          CELL PHONE NUMBER. 
          MY PERSONAL CELL PHONE NUMBER IS (972) 849-8499. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE INTO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. 
          UH, THESE ARE THE TWO DOCUMENTS THAT I'VE, UH, PROVIDED, UH, THE COURT AS WELL AS THE, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY. 
          UH, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW, UH, KIND OF WHAT SOME OF THE DETAILS ARE. 
          I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL. 
          I'LL NOT COMMENT ON THOSE OTHER THAN THEY'RE PROVIDED JUST AS, UH, UH, AS INFORMATION. 
          NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA. 
          WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UH, THAT'S THE MINUTES OF AUGUST THE 12TH, AUGUST THE 13TH, AND AUGUST THE 20TH, 2013. 
          WE HAVE AN ITEM, UH, BE TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER A PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH POSTAL BEND FOR REPAIRS COUNTY ROAD 2 81 AND TWO 80 AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE ACCOUNTING REPORT, UH, AUDIT REPORT FOR KAMAN COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, AND TO DISCUSS AND PROVE ATIONS OF CARLA COOK AND BRANDON WELL FOR THE TAX OFFICE. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE? NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT AS PRESENTED. 
          WE HAVE TO MOVE, UH, MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SECOND. 
          MOTION. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED, UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, TO CONSIDER AND ACT ON AN ORDER BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COUNTY TEXAS, CALLING A BOND ELECTION TO BE HELD WITHIN SAID COUNTY, MAKING THE PROVISION FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE ELECTION AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS INSTANT AND RELATED TO THE POLLING OF SUCH ELECTION THAT HAD TO BE WRITTEN BY ATTORNEY . 
          SO, UH, WE'LL, UH, ASK OUR, UH, OUR FOLKS THAT ARE HERE WITH US THIS MORNING. 
          I THINK THEY'RE OUT IN THE, UH, HALL, PERHAPS SOMEWHERE. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHETHER 
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WE HAVE THEM HERE OR NOT. 
          UH, CHARGE HERE. 
          OKAY, HLK, THE ARCHITECTS, IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO, UH, COME FORWARD. 
          WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, INCH, THE, UH, HERD AND, UH, UH, GEL. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO SOME FOLKS HERE. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY TWO PROJECTS. 
          AND SO, UH, IF YOU GENTLEMEN WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, UH, UH, FORWARD, UH, SPAN, AND I KNOW WE CAN GET YOU ALL UP HERE, KEVIN. 
          UH, CERTAINLY IF YOU BACK COME ON UP TOO. 
          UH, JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. 
          UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO CALL THE BOND ELECTION IN, UH, THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER FOR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO COUNTY ROADS OF CALIN COUNTIES. 
          THAT WOULD BE ONE PROJECT. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SECOND PROJECT THAT WOULD BE LISTED ON THE, ON THE BALLOT. 
          WE WOULD'VE TWO BALLOTS OR TWO, TWO PROPOSALS ON THE BALLOT TO BUILD A NEW COUNTY, UH, JUSTICE CENTER. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE, UH, GENTLEMEN TO, UH, UH, HAVE, UH, THE, UH, INFORMATION PREPARED FOR THAT. 
          UH, WE, UH, HAD TWO COMMITTEES THAT HAVE WORKED WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN COMING BACK AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. 
          AND, UH, THIS ITEM SIMPLY GIVES THE AUTHORITY, THE LEGAL AUTHORITY FOR THE COURT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE TWO PROPOSALS. 
          AND, UH, FIRST, JEFF, I THINK I'LL GO WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. 
          UH, AND OR KURT, EITHER ONE OF YOU IS BOTH OF YOU TIME YOU HUG EACH OTHER, WHATEVER YOU LIKE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. 
          BUT, UH, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, COURT FACILITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A COURT HOUSE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A JUSTICE SETTING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDED, UH, FOUR OPTIONS, UH, LAST WEEK TO THE, TO THE COURT IN A WORKSHOP SETTING, UH, TO LOOK AT. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, I THINK OPTION FOUR, UH, WAS ONE THAT, UH, GOT THE MOST ATTENTION. 
          AND IT, IT PROVIDES, UH, SIX, UH, SPACE FOR SIX NEW COURTROOMS, UH, IN, IN THIS JUSTICE CENTER. 
          IT WAS LOCATED OUT BY THE, UH, COUNTY JAIL. 
          AND, UH, IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, UH, OFFICE SPACE FOR, UH, COUNTY CLERKS, UH, DISTRICT CLERKS AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICES. 
          AND, UH, SO THE BOND REP ENDED WOULD, UH, WOULD PROVIDE FUNDING TO BUILD THAT FACILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF SIX COURTS IN THE BUILDING. 
          UH, ONE OF THE COURTROOMS WOULD BE, UH, MAYBE NOT COMPLETED AT THIS TIME. 
          IT WOULD BE A SHELL PERHAPS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BIDS COME IN, UH, AS, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE PROPOSAL DOES PASS, UH, IT WOULD BE CONNECTED TO JAIL WHERE, WHERE THE INMATES WOULD, UH, SIMPLY WALK OVER TO THE JAIL. 
          UM, AND THEN IT ALSO HOUSED THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE. 
          AND THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          AND, UH, AS PART OF THIS, AS THE CAMPAIGN MOVES FORWARD, UH, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UH, KIND OF WHAT LAYOUT OF THE, OF THE JUSTICE CENTER. 
          SO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, Y'ALL HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? UH, JEFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? I DO WANT TO SAY, JUST SO THE PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THE, UH, THE JUDGE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, I THINK BEEN REALLY GOOD STEWARDS OF THE, UH, LOOKING AFTER THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. 
          UH, THEY DID NOT SELECT THE MOST EXPENSIVE, UH, UH, OPTION THAT THAT WAS OUT THERE. 
          AND IN FACT, THEY HAD US LOOK AND RE-LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION FOR DELIVERING THE JUSTICE SYSTEM HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          I THINK YOU'D BE PRETTY PROUD OF IT. 
          UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, AS THE JUDGE MENTIONED, WE ARE GONNA WORK WITH THE COUNTY IN SETTING UP A WEBSITE AND IT'LL ACTUALLY TO HELP DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION AND KEEP EVERYTHING OUT THERE. 
          SO EVERYONE'S REALLY FAMILIAR WITH HOW EVERYTHING'S MOVING AHEAD. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALL OF YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT WE MET WITH WERE VERY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I PUT, WERE VERY UNSELFISH IN THEIR WORKSPACES. 
          IN FACT, THEY ACTUALLY MOVED TO CUT SPACES BACK TO A DEGREE WHERE IT'S, IT'S COMFORTABLE IN WORKING, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING EXCESSIVE OR ANYTHING OVER THE, OVER THE TOP THAT PEOPLE ASKED FOR. 
          UH, WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH DOING THIS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          UH, PERSONALLY, BOTH KURT AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN MORE JUSTICE PROJECTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAN JUST ABOUT ANY TWO PEOPLE I KNOW OF IN THE, IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. 
          UH, WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, COUNTY CONCERNS WITH THE, THE VOTER CONCERNS, COMMISSIONER'S, COURT CONCERNS, AND SO WE HAVE THOSE OUT IN THE FOREFRONT BEFORE WE EVER MAKE ANY DECISIONS AND MOVING AHEAD. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO DELIVERING WORK MORE COUNTY. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONERS, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, OF 
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THAT PARTICULAR PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT? I WOULDN'T, UH, JUST MENTION THAT WE COUNTY, UH, HAD AN ELECTION, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2006, UH, FOR A SIMILAR PROPOSAL, EXCEPT IT WAS FOR A MUCH LARGER FACILITY. 
          UH, ONE OF THE PLANS I'VE LOOKED AT WAS FOR 131,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          UH, AND IT INCLUDED MUCH, UH, MANY OTHER OFFICE SPACE, A LOT LARGER OFFICES AND FACILITY. 
          THIS FACILITY IS LESS THAN THAT, IT'S AROUND 79, IT DEPENDS ON THE OPTIONS, BUT OPTION FOUR WAS ABOUT 67,000 SQUARE, 67,000 WORTH. 
          THE, THE OPTION WE VOTED ON THE COUNTY, UH, TAXPAYERS VOTED ON BACK IN 2006 WAS FOR $21,500. 
          AND OF COURSE IT WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL. 
          PARDON? 21 MILLION. 
          21 MILLION, I'M SORRY. 
          THOUSAND 21 MILLION THOUSAND $500. 
          THIS ACTUAL PROPOSAL WILL BE 19 MILLION, UH, 750. 
          SO IT'S A SMALLER BILL. 
          UH, IT'S A, UH, A LESS AMOUNT OF WHAT IT NEEDED WAS SIX YEARS AGO OR WHENEVER THAT WAS NOW 2006. 
          AND SO IT'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING. 
          IT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT , BUT, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S LOOKED AT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S WOOD SERVICE, THE NEEDS WE HAVE FOR  COUNTY IMMEDIATELY AND, UH, IN THE FUTURE YEARS AS WELL. 
          AND IT ALSO WILL BE DESIGNED SO THAT THE FACILITY CAN BE ADDED ON WITH, WITH, UH, ADDITIONAL COURTROOMS AS, AS TIME TO FALL. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KEVIN. 
          IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TELL US A LITTLE DEPTH ABOUT, AND RAY, UH, UH, WHERE IS RAY? RAYMOND? RAY, IF YOU WANT COME UP AS WELL. 
          RAY'S BEEN THE CHAIRPERSON OF OUR, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UH, FACILITY, OUR TRANSPORTATION STUDY, UH, AND HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH 12 OTHER MEMBERS AND PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN. 
          AND KEVIN, I'LL LET YOU BEGIN AND YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ROADS, UH, TRANSPORTATION PROPERTY. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, JUDGE. 
          UM, WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST, UH, SIX MONTHS OR SO WORKING WITH, UH, VARIOUS AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTY, THE CITIES AND COMMISSIONERS, ISDS, UH, VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS TO DEVELOP A, UH, A TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WILL BEST IMPACT THE COUNTY, UM, AS GROWTH CONTINUES TO HAPPEN OVER THE UPCOMING YEARS. 
          AND, UM, TO REALLY GET TO PREPARED FOR THAT GROWTH AND, AND GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE. 
          THE, UH, THE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER TOLD US ABOUT $56 MILLION. 
          UH, IT'S ABOUT 26 PROJECTS. 
          THE PROJECTS RANGE FROM, UM, COUNTY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FM, UH, FARM TO MARKET ROAD, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO STUDIES OF HIGHWAY 80, UH, 1 7, 5, ET CETERA. 
          THREE FOUR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE ROADS, WHAT ARE THOSE HIGHWAY NEEDS LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE? UM, IT'S REALLY TO LET, TO BRING KAUFMAN COUNTY INTO, UM, THE NORTH TEXAS. 
          A LOT OF TIMES IN THE REGION. 
          WE LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. 
          KAUFMAN COUNTY'S KIND OF ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THAT. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE KAUFMAN COUNTY IS SEEN AS ONE OF THE, UH, UH, CRITICAL COUNTIES THAT MAKE UP THE METRO PLACE. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT $56 MILLION IN PROPOSED COUNTY FUNDING THAT WILL BE LEVERAGED, UM, TO, UM, INITIATE THE PROCESS OF BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND $150 MILLION IN, UH, ROADWAY PROJECTS. 
          UM, MUCH OF THAT LEVERAGING WILL COME FROM THE LOCAL CITIES. 
          TERRELL, KAMAN, FORNEY, UM, HAVE ALL GOT PROJECTS WHERE THE CITY WILL FUND PORTION OF PROJECTS. 
          AND IT WILL ALSO BE, UH, LEVERAGING A LOT OF THE TECH STOCK, UH, FUNDING THAT'S OUT THERE, WHETHER IT'S EXISTING FUNDING OR FUTURE FUNDING THAT, UM, THAT TECH STOCK, UH, CAN HELP BUILD SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          UH, SO IT'S REALLY A GOOD, A GOOD PLAN, UH, WE FEEL TO GET THE COUNTY GOING, UM, GOING INTO THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS. 
          AND I'LL LET RAY ADDRESS ANYTHING FROM THE COMMITTEE STANDPOINT IF HE HAS ANY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, KEVIN. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE HAS, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING SEVERAL WEEKS NOW WITH THESE, UH, CONSULTANTS WITH THE COURT. 
          AND WE THINK THAT THE COURT HAS USED A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THIS. 
          AND WE, WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE ARE GONNA SEE COUNTY ROADS BUILT, NEW ROADS BUILT OR COUNTY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE MONEY OUT OR BRING MONEY TO THE TABLE WHEN WE SIT DOWN WITH TDO. 
          IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA BE LEFT OUT. 
          AND SO WE REALLY THINK THIS PROPOSAL IS A GOOD PROPOSAL. 
          AND THE FAVOR THIS COMMITTEE IS SITTING READY, IF THE COURT SEES, I MEAN, IF THE PEOPLE CALL FROM COUNTY APPROVES THIS ON NOVEMBER 5TH, UH, BUT BETWEEN NINE AND ME, THE COMMITTEE IS SITTING READY TO 
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GO AROUND AND CROSS THIS COUNTY AND PROMOTE THIS PROGRAM OF THIS PROPOSITION. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE, WE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY, ANY GROUPS THAT WOULD LIKE FOR US TO COME ADDRESS THEM AND, UH, ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS, PRESENT THE PROPOSAL, ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS, AND DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO HELP SEE THIS BECOME A VICTORY. 
          AND I REALLY, FROM MY HEART, I THINK THAT, UH, SOME OF THE COUNTIES AROUND THAT HAVE DONE THIS, HAVE SEEN GREAT, UH, RESPONSE FROM VOTERS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WEATHERFORD COUNTY HAS SEEN 70% OF THE PEOPLE VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          DENTON COUNTY, ABOUT 69% VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          ROCKWALL COUNTY, UH, UP IN THE SIXTIES VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          AND I THINK WE'LL DO THE SAME THING HERE IN  COUNTY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          BEFORE, UH, KEVIN, BEFORE YOU HAD RAISED IT DOWN, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS IS NOT JUST, THIS MONEY'S NOT GOING ALL TO ONE PRECINCT. 
          UH, WE HAVE FOUR COMMISSION PRECINCTS, AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          AND RAY, I KNOW THE COMMITTEE HAS WORKED THROUGH THAT. 
          THE MONEY'S PRETTY WELL EVENLY DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE PRECINCTS. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THAT? BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY PICKED UP THAT THERE'S, UH, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE IT'S ALL GOING TO AND TERRELL AND KALIN AND WE GET EVERYBODY ELSE, AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, OF THE $56 MILLION IN COUNTY FUNDING, UM, WE WERE VERY STRATEGIC IN THOSE PROJECTS AND HOW WE IDENTIFIED THEM. 
          UM, A LOT OF THE, THE REASONS THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED AS PUBLIC SAFETY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, CONGESTION MITIGATION, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE MONEY. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S GOTTA BE SPLIT UP AMONGST THE COUNTY, UH, EQUALLY AND EQUITABLE SO THAT WE CAN, UH, GET THE VOTERS. 
          AND OF THE $56 MILLION IN, IN COUNTY FUNDED, IT'S ROUGHLY 13 OR $14 MILLION, UH, PER PRECINCT. 
          AND THEN OF THE, I MENTIONED A HUNDRED TO $150 MILLION IN, UM, TOTAL PROJECT COST AFTER WE LEVERAGE SOME OF THAT MONEY. 
          IT'S SAME THING, IT'S A, IT'S RELATIVELY, YOU KNOW, 25 TO 30 MILLION PER PRECINCT. 
          UM, IT'S NOT EXACT, YOU KNOW, ON, ON DOLLAR, BUT I THINK THEY NEED COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, ET CETERA. 
          THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOT IS THAT THIS IS AN EQUITABLE, UM, BREAKUP OF THE DOLLARS ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          AND SAME THING, UM, WITHIN THE CITIES, UH, WITHIN THE COUNTY ROADS, UH, WE'VE TRIED TO, UH, FOCUS AND TARGET ALL AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT, THAT HAVE TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL OVER THE COUNTY. 
          THERE ARE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, NOT JUST IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          SO IT TRULY IS A COUNTYWIDE TRANSPORTATION BOND ENFORCEMENT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          NO QUESTION ABOUT QUESTION. 
          THE OTHER THING, UH, THAT I WISH TO ADDRESS THIS A LITTLE BIT, YOU TOUCHED ABOUT THIS FACT WE'RE NOT RUNNING OUT SELLING $56 MILLION IF, IF THE BOND PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL, UH, WE'RE NOT SELLING $56 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS AND START PAYING TAXES ON THOSE BONDS AT ONE TIME. 
          THEY WILL BE SOLD OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS AS PROJECTS CAN BE DEVELOPED. 
          AND SO YOU'D LIKE TO, WORKING WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS, THEY PROPOSED ABOUT THREE, UM, DIFFERENT BOND SALES, ABOUT ABOUT TWO YEARS APART, SO ABOUT EVERY OTHER YEAR OR SALE. 
          UH, AND THAT REALLY IS THE FACT THAT EVEN IF WE HAD THE $56 MILLION, WE CAN'T GO DESIGN BUILD $56 MILLION IN ROADS RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AS Y'ALL ARE AWARE, UH, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IN THE STATE TAKE MANY YEARS TO PLAN AND DESIGN AND, AND  CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO, UH, AN IMMEDIATE SALE WILL ALLOW THOSE, UH, FAST, UH, PACED, QUICK TURNAROUND PROJECTS TO GET, UM, TO GET ON THE GROUND AND GET CONSTRUCTED. 
          AND WE WILL, WE'LL SET ASIDE FUNDING FOR THE DESIGN AND RIGHTAWAY ACQUISITION OF FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          SO THAT BE EXACTLY CORRECT OVER ABOUT ABOUT FIVE TO SIX YEARS. 
          EVERY OTHER YEAR THERE'LL BE A DIFFERENT, UH, SALE AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS ON WHAT IS THE BEST TIMING, UM, OF THOSE SALES, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE MARKET, BASED ON THE NEED OF THE COUNTY, UH, FOR THE, THE DESIGN AND AND CONSTRUCTION OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, AS OPPOSED TO THE, UH, NEW JUSTICE CENTER, SHOULD IT BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, THOSE BONDS WOULD BE SOLD ALL AT ONE TIME BECAUSE THAT BUILDING WOULD START, UH, FAIRLY SOON AFTER THE BOND, THE FUNDING IS PUT IN PLACE. 
          SO THAT WOULD HAVE, I NEED, UH, THOSE BONDS WOULD BE SOLD, SO WE COULD GET STARTED ON THAT. 
          UH, BUT THE PART OF THAT IS IT ALL GOES TOWARDS THE BUILDING. 
          WE HAVE THE LAND AVAILABLE, UH, NEAR THE JAIL. 
          WE HAVE THE AVAILABLE JAIL. 
          AND SO THAT STRICTLY WOULD GO TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, UH, THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR I THINK YOU'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT, UH, THE AVERAGE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR EACH? UH, I THINK, UH, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          IT MAY, I WAS HOPING 2000 HOUSE IS 23. 
          YEAH. 
          AND REALLY WHAT WE 
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WILL DO IF WE SELL THE ROAD BONDS INITIALLY, UH, THE FIRST TWO OR THREE YEARS, UH, IT'S LIKE 1.70 CENTS, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'LL BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE, EVERYBODY. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 1.70 CENTS THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS THAT, UH, PAYING FOR LITTLE BONDS. 
          AND I BELIEVE IN THE CASE OF THE, UH, UH, JUSTICE CENTER, IT'S AROUND FOUR OR 5 CENTS. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT WE WILL GET THAT OUT AS SOON AS THE COURTS MOVES FORWARD WITH, UH, ADJUSTING, UH, THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVING THE, THE SALE OF THESE BONDS OR THE GIVING THE VOTERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. 
          THE OTHER THING I WOULD POINT OUT, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE IN WHAT WE THINK OUR GROWTH WILL BE IN THE COUNTY. 
          UH, WE'RE BUDGETING, UH, ONLY A 1% GROWTH IN, UH, PROPERTY, UH, VALUES TO INCREASE EACH YEAR. 
          UH, AND UH, THIS LAST YEAR OUR, OUR TOTAL PROPERTY VALUE, UH, TAXABLE PROPERTY VALUE IS AROUND $6 BILLION, B AS IN BILLION. 
          AND, UH, SO, UH, BUT WE HAD OVER A HUNDRED, NEARLY $110 MILLION WORTH OF USE CONSTRUCTION JUST SCATTERED ACROSS THE COUNTY THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THOSE PROJECTIONS. 
          WE BELIEVE OUR VALUES WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP, UH, AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, FACT THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO THE COUNTY. 
          AND THAT WILL HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL TAXPAYERS HELP HELP PAY THE, THE COST OF THOSE BONDS AS WELL. 
          THE OTHER FACTOR THAT ENTERED INTO IT, WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH INTEREST RATES FOR THE INTEREST RATES ARE VERY, VERY FAVORABLE NOW FOR TAX FREE BONDS, MUNICIPAL BONDS. 
          AND, UH, IF WE DO, IF THE VOTERS DO APPROVE OF THIS, THIS IS A VERY GOOD TIME TO SELL THOSE BONDS BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE LOOKED AT NOT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WAIT TOO LONG. 
          UH, I READ THE PAPERS JUST LIKE YOU DO, AND IT APPEARS THAT INTEREST RATES MAY START SPIKING UP OVER HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO FEW YEARS. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, IF THE APPROVED, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, GET IT WHILE DOWN CONSTRUCTION COSTS. 
          WE STILL FAIRLY, UH, HOLDING STEADY AND, UH, AS THE ECONOMY PICKS UP STEAM, UH, I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS UNDERWAY BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTS AS WELL. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT I'M FAVOR BOTH HONORED TO MAKE THAT, UH, MOTION. 
          BUT SOMEBODY, I DID THREE VOTES WELL, YOU GOT WELL, I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF BOTH FLYING PROJECTS. 
          IT'S TAM, UH, COTTON COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          IF WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE ROADS, UH, LAID DOWN RAT, UH, WE'RE JUST GOING BE, WE'LL BE BEHIND WHEN, WHEN THE ECONOMY TURNS AROUND. 
          VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT IT'LL TURN AROUND EVENTUALLY. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED ON THIS PROJECT, OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, I BELIEVE THEY'VE LOOKED AT THIS THING EVERY WAY THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE LOOKED AT. 
          YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER COUNTY AROUND US, UH, AROUND US IS USING THIS LEVERAGED MONEY TO FINANCE THESE PROJECTS. 
          AND, AND WE SURE DON'T WANT BE LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE, UH, WE ARE GROWING AND, UH, WE ALSO HAD TO PROVIDE, UH, THE SECURITY FOR OUR JUDGES, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, FOR DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          AND, UH, WE JUST, IT'S TIME FOR US TO QUIT SITTING ON OUR HANDS. 
          SO I WOULD BE HONORED TO MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          KEN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? I, I'M ON BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          LET THE SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER ROSA. 
          SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED. 
          AND WE WILL IMMEDIATELY, JUST AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, WE WILL GET ALL THIS INFORMATION OUT ON THE, UH, THERE'LL BE A LINK FROM OUR WEBSITE TO THIS NEW WEBSITE. 
          WE'LL GET THAT OUT AND START GETTING THE FACTUAL INFORMATION OUT BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THE FACTS OUT BEFORE, UH, SOMEBODY, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON DECIDES THEY WANNA, UH, PUT OUT MAYBE INFORMATION THAT'S NOT PUBLISHED. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND BEFORE, UH, YOU GUYS SIT DOWN, I ACTUALLY PUT NUMBER, UH, UH, FOUR ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND IT IS TO DISCUSS AND VOTE ON THE LOCATION AND NAME FOR A PROPOSED NEW COURTS BUILDING TO MAKE THIS, UH, FORMAL, UH, I WOULD, UH, MOVE THAT IT BE LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE, UH, KAMAN COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER WITH A CONNECTION TO THAT BUILDING AND THAT THE NEW COURT, UH, 
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FACILITY, THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER, UH, IN HONOR OF MARK CASSIE AND, UH, MIKE MCCLELLAN AND HIS WIFE, UH, THAT IT BE NAMED THE CASSIE MCCLELLAN JUSTICE CENTER OF KAUFMAN COUNTY. 
          UH, AND THAT IT ALSO IS, AND I VISITED WITH THE ARCHITECTS ABOUT THIS, UH, INSIDE THE BUILDING. 
          WE WOULD HAVE A MEMORIAL SET UP TO THE, UH, A MEMORY OF, UH, THREE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES THIS YEAR, AS WE, UH, DISCUSSED, UH, EARLIER. 
          UH, AND THAT WE'VE ALSO, UH, TELLING YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REASON THAT, UH, IF YOU SO APPROVE THIS MOTION, UH, THAT, UH, WE HAVE A, A MEMORIAL SET UP INSIDE, AND THAT IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE HISTORY OF KAMAN COUNTY THAT HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES. 
          AND WE HAVE A PERMANENT MEMORIAL IN THIS JUSTICE CENTER. 
          I CAN THINK OF NO MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO HAVE THIS. 
          SO, GENTLEMEN, THAT'S MY MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          WE HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER CLARK DISCUSSION. 
          EVERYBODY ON BOARD WITH THAT. 
          I PERSONALLY THINK Y'ALL BE CALLED TON COUNTY JUSTICE OR COURT, COUNTY COURT RATHER THAN THE, HAS ANYBODY ELSE GO THAT WAY? WELL, I KIND OF DO. 
          I WE TALKED ABOUT HONOR. 
          I'M ALL ON BOARD ON HONOR, AND WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT INSIDE IS GREAT. 
          I, I'M HUNDRED THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE CONFUSING WITH PEOPLE COMING FROM ALLEN COUNTY, YOU KNOW, COURT, PERSONAL OPINION. 
          I LIKE TO HONOR MUCH REASON, THE REASON I'M, UH, DOING THIS, AND I PROBABLY SHOULDA STARTED OUT, OR I'M, I'M MOVING, I'M MAKING THIS MOTION THIS MORNING, WHICH I TYPICALLY DON'T MAKE MOTION. 
          UH, BUT, UH, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH, UH, UH, MIKE CLELL, UH, DURING THE TIME THAT MARK HASSEY WAS ASSASSINATED, UH, IN MY OFFICE ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION. 
          AND, UH, HE INSISTED TOLD ME, JUDGE, WE NEED A NEW COURTS FACILITY. 
          WE NEED A NEW JUSTICE FACILITY. 
          AND I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER THAT HAPPENS, SUSTAINED IN THE MEMORY OF MARK HASSEY. 
          SO I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THAT CONVERSATION, AND I MADE A COMMITMENT TO HIM, BUT I WOULD DO THAT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE KNOW THE EVENTS THAT TRANSPIRED SINCE THEN. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR MY, MY DESIRE TO NAME IT THE HASSEY MCCLELLAN. 
          THAT ALWAYS KIND LIES . 
          I DON'T THINK THAT WAS SO THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF MY THINKING BEHIND THAT. 
          AND, UH, ANYWAY, I HAD SHARED THAT WITH VERY FEW PEOPLE, BUT THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY CAUSE IN THAT REGARD. 
          SO, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S MY MOTION. 
          UH, DID WE HAVE A SECOND? YES. 
          UM, RAY SECOND, THE MOTION FURTHER THE DISCUSSION. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I HAD HAD, EVER SINCE WE PROPOSED THIS, I HAD HAD IN MY MIND NAMED IT  COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER AND, UH, CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE THERE, JUDGE. 
          I, I KIND, THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THAT. 
          NOW, WHAT YOU GONNA CALL IT AGAIN? HASI, UH, CLE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER AND WE'LL, WE'LL, WE WILL WORK WITH C COUNTY. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON THE WORDING OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          WE'LL WORK WITH THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM THAT WE CHOOSE TO BUILD, DESIGN THE BUILDING, SHOULD IT PASS, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO PROBABLY INVOLVE, UH, COUNTY CITIZENS ON SOME SORT OF FITTING MEMORIAL THAT, UH, WOULD BE ADDED TO THE, UH, INSIDE OF THE BUILDING IN THE, IN THE BAR AREA. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD IMAGINE. 
          OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          SO WE HAVE, LET'S, LET'S RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          SO WE'LL ONE, EVERYBODY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SHOULD HAVE, UH, PERHAPS TALKED WITH YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BUT, UH, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT DOING THAT. 
          YEAH, WE NEED, WE WILL, WE WILL WORK ON THE EXACT, WE, WE WILL WORK ON THAT REGARD. 
          ALL. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER FIVE, AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST TO INCREASE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE COUNTY'S, UH, 2011, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK, RAMP NUMBER 7 1 1 2 0, THE ELMO WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION. 
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AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THIS MORNING, TOMORROW, UH, WITH ELMO OR NOT. 
          I KNOW THIS, UH, IS AN AMENDMENT, UH, THROUGH THAT AND IT'S, IT'S MONEY THAT FLOW THROUGH THE COUNTY, UH, BY LAW HAS TO FLOW THROUGH COUNTY AND, UH, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION DEFENSES MONEY APPROPRIATELY. 
          AND IT ACTUALLY COMES THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THIS. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND. 
          IS THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND ADOPT THE COUNTY CLERK'S ANNUAL, UH, WE'LL NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ACTUALLY. 
          SO I NEED A MOTION TO ENTER INTO A, A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS ARCHIVE PLAN AS REQUIRED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNOR. 
          CODE 1 1 8 0 2 5. 
          I HAVE A MOTION TO ENTER INTO, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK MAKES A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL. 
          NOW, UH, LAURA, ARE YOU IN HERE SOMEPLACE HERE, YOU'RE, YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS. 
          WE'VE DISCUSSED IT COURSE, BUT, UH, THIS IS A FORMAL HEARING AND THEN WE'LL LET ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO THAT. 
          THE RECORDS ARCHIVE FUND IS A FUND THAT WAS SET UP BY THE LEGISLATURE IN 2003 TO HELP COUNTY CLERKS PRESERVE THEIR OLD HISTORIC RECORDS. 
          AND BY LAW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLISH IT IN THE NEWSPAPER CLERK, A WRITTEN PLAN PERMIT TO THE COURT, AND THE COURT WORKS TOWARDS COUNTY COURT AND PRESERVING THESE HISTORIC, PRICELESS DOCUMENTS. 
          WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE COURT IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING SAM, DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY THAT'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE OUT THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION TO DOUBLE. 
          SECOND, SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND MOTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO DISCUSS AND ADOPT THE COUNTY CLERK'S ANNUAL RECORDS ON PLAN AND SIGN ORDER APPROVING. 
          AND THAT'S BASICALLY JUST WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, COUNTY CLERK? NOT, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE AND ADOPT DESIRE. 
          SO MAY MR. MANNING, UH, MAKES THAT MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. CLARK? SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON FAVOR SAY, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER. 
          SECOND. 
          THEY TRY TO PLAY THE TRICKS ON ME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, LAURA, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, AND JOHN, I'LL ASK YOU TO, UH, YOU'LL COME FORWARD HERE JUST IN A FEW MOMENTS. 
          UH, TO REVIEW. 
          TO REVIEW AND, UH, CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, 2 6 2 0.0276 RESTRICTIONS ON THE FUTURE COUNTY TRANSACTIONS OR CONTRACTS WITH PERSONS IN DEBIT INDEBTED TO THE COUNTY AT THE TIME OF THE TRANSACTION CONTRACT. 
          AGAIN THAT WORDED BY ATTORNEY, I THINK , IT WAS, UM, THIS IS FOR THE COURT TO, UM, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SECTION THAT IS, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE UNDER PURCHASING ACT THAT ALLOWS COUNTY TO MAKE A DECISION IF IT WANTS TO DO BUSINESS WITH A PERSON IN AN INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY THAT ALREADY OWES MONEY TO THE COUNTY. 
          AND, UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INSTRUCTION OR GUIDANCE IN THE STATUTE ITSELF, BUT PART OF WHAT PROPOSED IN THE MEMO AND IN THE PROPOSED COURT ORDER IS THAT THE AUDITOR WILL NOTIFY THE COURT THAT SOMETHING COMES BEFORE THE COURT OWE THE COUNTY MONEY OR THIS TO DO BUSINESS. 
          SO THERE'S SOME MEASURE, SOME, SOME CATCH IN PLACE BEFORE CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED FOR ENGAGEMENTS. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE PROBABLY OFFICES WHO OWE THE COUNTY INCLUDING, UM, OUTSTANDING TAXES. 
          ONE OF THE ISSUES IN THE TEXT WILL HELP PUT THAT LIST TOGETHER. 
          ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION? OUR ATTORNEY YES. 
          ABOUT ADOPTING THE RULES? 
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WE HAVE TO HAVE, WHAT ARE THE RULES? THE RULES ARE GONNA BE THE CORRECT STATUTE AND THAT, UM, ANY PROPOSAL THAT COMES BEFORE THE COUNTY, BEFORE THE CONTRACT, BEFORE ANY CHECKS ARE, BECAUSE WE WANNA FIND OUT BEFORE THE MONEY GOES OUT THE DOOR THAT SOMEONE HAS INTO A CONTRACT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT SAYS CONTRACT WORD TRANSACTIONS AND SO IT'S PROSPECT, SO SOMEONE PASSED THOSE MONEY. 
          IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT, THAT THERE ARE SOME, UH, SOME CITIES THAT OWE US SOME TAX MONEY. 
          SHOULD WE PROCEED WITH THIS BEFORE THAT, BEFORE THOSE ISSUES ARE, ARE RESOLVED? 'CAUSE IF WE, UH, BEST OF MY UNDERSTANDING, IF WE, IF WE ADOPT THIS NOW AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN THOSE CITIES UNTIL THAT'S, AND I, AND I I'M NOT SURE OF ALL THE DETAIL. 
          I, I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT. 
          DELAY VOTE ON THIS OR ANY BUSINESS FOR THE CITY WOULD NEED TO BE, IT WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS THE, AS PART OF GOING FORWARD. 
          I MEAN THE COUNTY CAN OVERRIDE ITSELF AND MAKE EXCEPTION TO THE, BUT ONCE YOU START MAKING EXCEPTIONS, I WAS TWO AND THESE ARE, AND OUR TAX ACCESSORIES HERE THIS MORNING, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THAT, UH, YEAH. 
          ON COMMUNITIES THAT I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING AT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MENTION THE NAMES THIS MORNING NECESSARILY, BUT I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THAT, UH, COMMUNITIES, EVEN THE COUNTY HAS BOUGHT PROPERTY IN THE PAST THAT THE, UH, TAXES WERE DUE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR OR SOMETHING, I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          RIGHT. 
          COUNTIES AND CITIES ARE A EXEMPT FROM PAYING TAXES FROM THE DAY THEY BUY IT FORWARD, BUT THEY'RE NOT EXEMPT FROM THE TAXES THAT WE DUE ON THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME THEY BOUGHT IT. 
          SO, UH, IF THEY DIDN'T MAKE A DEAL WITH THE CITIZEN THAT THEY BOUGHT IT FROM BEFORE THEY TOOK IT ON, THEN THEY OWE THOSE BACK TAXES. 
          THERE'S NO OWNING TAXES FROM THAT DAY FLORIDA. 
          SO WE DO HAVE, UM, TWO CITIES THAT HAVE SOME TAXES THAT THEY OWE THE COUNTY. 
          ONE OF 'EM VERY MINOR AND ONE 'EM SOLD MORE THAN MINOR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK WE EVEN BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT YOU PAID THAT. 
          WE PAID OUT . 
          SO COUNTY'S GOOD QUESTIONS OF, JOHN PROBABLY OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT DOWN LINE, GET, GET SOME CLEAR ON EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WOULD THAT BE DONE WITH THE RULES OR HOW WOULD, I MEAN YOU CAN TEST THIS. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ANY TIME SENSITIVITY TO THIS. 
          DONE ANY TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU RECOMMEND IT NOW. 
          AND ON THE DETAIL POINT LATER, UM, IN LIGHT OF WHAT I LEARNED THIS MORNING, UH, I THINK IF, IF THE COURT IS TOP OF MIND THAT MAY THEN IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO, UH, TO PUT THIS ALL AT PLACE FOR ONE SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          ONE, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A TIME SENSITIVITY TO THIS. 
          SO YOU'D RECOMMEND IF WE TABLE IT UNTIL WE DO A LITTLE FURTHER INVESTIGATION? I THINK, I MEAN COME BACK AND WE MAY OKAY. 
          NEXT TIME KIND OF MAKES SENSE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL WE HAVE FURTHER? WE HAVE A SECOND. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ALL ITEM NUMBER NINE IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, PURSUANT TO, UH, 5 5 0 8 7 2 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE DELIBERATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS. 
          UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ADJOURN INTO OR NOT ADJOURN? BUT'S GONNA EXECUTIVE SECTION. 
          SO MAY HAVE MOTION FROM, UH, 
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COMMISSIONER MAN, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, SECOND MOTION. 
          ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          OKAY, WE WILL. 
          AND WE'LL, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE MR. TORY, HOW YOU DOING? DOING GOOD. 
          OTHER, THAT WILL STAND CORRECTED IN THAT REGARD. 
          AND SO THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND ACT. 
          WELL WE, WE VOTED TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I BELIEVE MR. MR. SHANE VOTED, UH, MADE A MOTION AND I THINK SECOND MOTION, UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 10 AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AN ACT ON APPROVING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CARROLL. 
          AND UH, DO I HAVE DISCUSSION AND OR A MOTION REGARDING, UH, WE GOOD EXCLUDING THE ROLLBACK? ALRIGHT. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT, YEAH, IT WOULD BE ON SECTION TWO OF PAGE TWO OF THE AGREEMENT AND WE WOULD STRIKE, BUT INCLUDING ROLLBACK TAXES FROM THE, UH, POWER CENTER AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF TERRELL. 
          SO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE THOSE? NO, THEY WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE, UH, IN THE MOTION. 
          THE ROLLBACK TAXES WERE NOT UH, BUT ALL ELSE WOULD BE THE, UH, WOULD BE THE SAME. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO, I HAVE A SECOND AND WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION. 
          WE'LL HAVE A SECOND. 
          WE HAVE DISCUSSION. 
          YES. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND KEN. 
          MOTION. 
          DID WE APPROVE THIS? A PENDING A PUBLIC MEETING, PUBLIC INPUT INTO IT. 
          UH, THE WORDING ON THE AGENDA ITEM. 
          AUDIENCE PROBABLY WOULD SAYS APPROVING AGREEMENT. 
          I THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT TAX. 
          THE  AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD PERCENT TO SOME OF HIS CONSTITUENTS WEEKEND. 
          THEY, THEY WERE NOT. 
          SO I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE US GET SOME PUBLIC INPUT INTO, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, UH, AMEND COMMISSIONER, CHANGE MOTION. 
          DO HAVE A SECOND TO, UH, THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK? SECOND, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER UH CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A. 
          THOSE OPPOSED AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          AYE. 
          SO OPPOSED PASSES ON VOTE. 
          WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          WHO WOULD, WHO VOTED AGAINST IT? UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, B UH, SHANE AND THE JUDGE. 
          SO IT PASSED THREE TO TWO OR FAILED TO HIS MOTION FAILED ON THREE TO TWO. 
          VOTE HIS AMENDMENT. 
          HIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY, SO, I'M SORRY. 
          WE'RE LACK IN CONGRESS. 
          WE'RE HAVING AMENDMENTS THROUGH THE AMENDMENT. 
          I NEED, SO WE GO BACK NOW TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. 
          WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION AND SECOND IN PLACE. 
          WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          I MAKE MY, UH, ARGUMENTS INVE SESSION. 
          I JUST, I DON'T LIKE THE WORDING ON THE AGENDA. 
          IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE THE PUBLIC WHAT THE NOTICE IS. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, NO, FOR THAT. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD ADD, WE SHOULD, IF YOU'RE JUST READING WHAT WAS IN THE PAPER, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. 
          SO ARE YOU FEELING LIKE THERE WERE SOME, UH, SOME SO COVER UP OR SOMETHING? OH, NO, NO, NO, SIR. 
          NO CONSPIRACY. 
          I JUST THOUGHT YOU SAID BEEN WHAT? THE WORDING THAT WE SHOULD BE VOTING ON SHOULD BE PART OF THE WORDING. 
          THAT WE AREN'T ING THIS, THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THIS, THIS, THIS AREA, THIS KIND OF INCENTIVE. 
          NOT JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE SENATE BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS IF THIS THIS IS A MILLION DOLLAR DEAL OR, YOU KNOW, $50 MILLION DEAL. 
          LIKE THERE HAVE THE WORDING IN THE PAST ON TIFF ARRANGEMENTS. 
          HAS THAT BEEN WORDED ANY DIFFERENT? I I WASN'T AROUND WHEN ANY OF THOSE MADE. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, BUT, UM, BUT I WANTED TO ASK ANGIE AS, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, TYPICALLY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGENDA IS, IS POSTED ON WEBSITE AND, AND I THINK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT 
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ALL OF, UH, THE PACKAGE PROPOSAL WAS PART OF THAT. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? NO, BECAUSE IT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DID NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, I GET MY SPECULATION. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. 
          OTHER COMMENTS? IT IS A, UH, IT, IT, UH, WE REALIZE THIS IS A, UH, UH, RESTAURANT SETTING THING FOR OUR COURT. 
          UH, IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF THE ORIGINAL T AGREEMENT. 
          UH, IT BUZZ IF, IF THE, UH, THE TWO ENTITIES THAT HAVE INDICATED AN INTERESTED LOCATED HERE, UH, IN THIS AREA, UH, DESIGNATED AS A POWER ZONE, UH, AGREEMENT WITH COFFMAN COUNTY. 
          IF THEY LOCATE HERE, THEY WILL CREATE HUNDREDS OF JOBS, WHICH I BELIEVE, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE, MAKE, UH, AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE IN OUR COUNTY AND WE'LL CREATE, GENERATE ADDITIONAL, UH, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. 
          BUT EVERYBODY HAS TO VOTE THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UH, SO I'M READY FOR THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WOULD. 
          THOSE OPPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          IT PASSES ON A FOUR ONE. 
          I VOTED IT'S A FOUR ONE VOTE WITH COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK, VOTING AGAINST. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          MOVING RIGHT ALONG. 
          ITEM NUMBER, UH, 12, I GUESS NOW IS TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE, UH, CONSOLIDATED POLLING LOCATIONS. 
          11. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I HAD IT MARKED OFF. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS MEETING. 
          YES, I CAN I ASK QUESTION? SURE. 
          IS THIS CONTRACT OR IS AGREED UPON IT? IS IT NOW PUBLIC RECORD? YES. 
          COULD ANYONE GET A COPY OF THAT? YEAH, WE'VE GOTTA MAKE A CHANGE TO IT ON THE ROLLBACK TAXES, BUT AS SOON AS THAT'S MADE, IT'LL BE SO YOU CAN SEND, YOU CAN EMAIL US OR SEND THOSE ON AS SOON AS THE ATTORNEY, UH, SAYS IT'S OKAY TO RELEASE. 
          WE WILL DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          IN FACT, WE WILL, UH, JUST CALL US OR WHATEVER, OR JOHN WILL GET IT TO US. 
          WE'LL SERVE THE POST. 
          ALRIGHT? UH, THIS IS SOMETHING I PUT TOGETHER JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE ITEMS THAT NEED TO GO ON THE AGENDA, BUT THEY NEED TO BE RECEIVED IN OUR OFFICE, UH, NO LATER THAN EIGHT O'CLOCK ON, UH, THURSDAY BEFORE THE REGULAR MEETING, OR IF IT'S A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, WE CALL IN AND FIND OUT WHAT THE DEADLINE IS. 
          BE SURE TO SEND ALL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS. 
          UH, IF YOU'RE AGREEING OR REQUESTING AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER ENTITY, PLEASE HAVE THE OTHER TO SUBMIT AN ORIGINAL SIGNED AGREEMENT. 
          UH, AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WERE PRETTY WELL, WE, UH, PAULA, ANYWAY, WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, EVIDENTLY SOME COMMUNICATION ISSUES WHERE THINGS WE DIDN'T GET, UH, POSTED THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PERHAPS. 
          AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START DOING AS A MATTER OF ROUTINE FROM MY COURT, UH, OR FROM FROM MY OFFICE, WILL BE TO START EMAILING YOU ON WEDNESDAY, A TENTATIVE AGENDA. 
          SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT AND THAT IF SOMETHING IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, UH, WE'LL, UH, WE WILL HAVE THAT, UH, LET US KNOW IMMEDIATELY SO WE CAN GET CORRECTED AND THEN WE'LL OF COURSE POST IT ON OUR WEDDING, ON OUR, UH, SITE, OUR, UH, WEBSITE. 
          AND, UH, THEN WE'LL UH, PUBLISH IT AND PUT IT ON YOUR DROPBOX AND THEN PUBLISH IT AND GET IT TO THE, UH, UH, POST IT, GET IT TO THE, UH, AS WELL. 
          THIS DOESN'T REALLY REQUIRE ANY, UH, ACTIONS, JUST THE DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT GETTING SOMETHING ON THE, WE'RE GOING INTO NUMBER 12. 
          TANYA, YOU'RE STILL HERE. 
          I HOPE I DISCUSSED MUCH COMMENT ON IT. 
          YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET OUR INFORMATION, GET OUR AGENDA TO YOUR OFFICE MUCH SOONER THAN, UH, THURSDAY BECAUSE WE GET ON FRIDAY AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS MUCH PAPERWORK OVER WEEKEND. 
          TRY TO, WE HAD, IF WE HAD A LONGER DEADLINE, SO WE, WE WOULD KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO BE POSTED. 
          WE COULD DEAL WITH BETTER HOMEWORK. 
          WELL, WE COULD DO THAT. 
          WE TRIED TO GET 'EM OUT ON THURSDAY. 
          I THINK, ANGIE, WE DIDN'T THIS LAST TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE WAITING DEPEND ON THURSDAY IN THE DAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE NEED TO GET 'EM EARLIER AND, UH, THE EARLIER THE BETTER. 
          I MEAN, BOTTOM LINE IS, BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING YOU'RE WAITING ON INFORMATION. 
          SO, UH, 
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WE CAN CERTAINLY, AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO GET 'EM OUT AS EARLY THURSDAY WE CAN. 
          SO WE HAVE MORE TIME TO, BUT UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, UH, DISCUSS. 
          UH, AND IF YOU WANNA CHANGE PROCEDURES ON THAT, CERTAINLY WE CAN DO THAT. 
          MS. HUGHES, YOUR HONOR, I APPRECIATE YOU, YOU KNOW, DOING THE AGENDA PROCESS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A STRONGER FOLLOW UP ON THE, ON THE, UM, PAPERWORK THAT'S DELIVERED TO THE COURT, WHETHER IT'S ELECTRONIC OR, OR YOUR PAPER HANDED OUT TO THE COURT. 
          WE HAVE A GREAT SYSTEM FOR COLLECTING THE PAPER BEFOREHAND, BUT I HAVE A WILL PROBABLY GIVE YOU AFTERWARDS. 
          AND THE STATUTE SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COURT, I HAVE MAINTAINED THE, THE COURT BOOKS, PAPERS, RECORDS AND EFFECTS. 
          IF I DON'T GET A COPY OF IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMEONE WALKS UP AND THEY'RE HAND OUT FIVE COPIES, I'M HAVING TO GO GET THAT OR REQUEST IT FROM THEM AND NOT RECEIVE IT LATER. 
          SO IF WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE STRONGER FOLLOW UP WHEN SOMEONE YOU HAVE IS GONNA COME AND PRESENT, PLEASE ASK TO BRING SIX COPIES. 
          OKAY. 
          REQUEST BE SUBMITTED 10 DAYS PRIOR ACTION. 
          WHAT? IT SAYS REQUEST 10 DAYS IS TOO LONG. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT PUT IN PUT PLACE WHEN WE WEEKLY I WEEK BEFORE NOT DONE WAY. 
          WHAT WE CAN DO, I DON'T KNOW LAURA, WHETHER YOU REMEMBER, WAS THERE EVER ANY, UH, AGENDA ITEM THAT TALKED ABOUT POSTING, UH, THE, THE AGENDA? I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE TO DO THE 72 HOURS THING, BUT WERE THERE EVER ANY PROCEDURES OR ANYTHING THAT, THAT DISCUSSED ABOUT THIS THAT COURT FORMALLY TOOK ACTION ON? I'M NOT FAULT. 
          WE DID IT A WEEK BEFORE AND YOU HAD TO HAVE YOUR DOCUMENTS IN WITH THE REQUEST. 
          DID THE COURT NOW WE MAY GET THE DOCUMENT. 
          WE MAY NOT GET, DON'T GET THE TO BECAUSE WHEN WE SEND IT TO THE CITY TO GET DONE AFTER WE'VE DONE IT, I HALF THE TIME DON'T EVEN GET THEM BACK. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO GET THE CITY TO DO IT FIRST. 
          DID THE COURT ACTUALLY VOTE ON THAT? WELL, WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT HOLE MORE LATE TIMES. 
          ALL I'M ASKING. 
          FRIDAY I WAS, YOU KNOW, I LAST EIGHT DOWN WHATEVER MORE PREPARED THAN I WAS THIS MORNING. 
          WE WERE TALKING, I THINK IT WAS POSTED ON YOUR DROPBOX. 
          I THINK FRIDAY. 
          YEAH, FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. 
          NO, I'M NOT SAYING, I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO WAIT SUNDAY TO LOOK. 
          OH NO, I, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I GET MY PERSONAL TIME. 
          THEY WANT EARLIER THEN MAKE THE DEADLINE WEDNESDAY MORNING. 
          BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT SENDING US REQUESTS ARE THE ONES CALLING SAYING, I'M GONNA SEND SOMETHING TODAY AND WE DON'T GET IT AND IT'S FIVE O'CLOCK AND SO WE WAIT THE NEXT DAY. 
          PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING TO BE PUT ON AGENDA HOLDING PROCESS THINGS IN BY TUESDAY, BY THURSDAY, SHE COULD HAVE TO. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND UNLESS THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S A REAL ISSUE. 
          OKAY, WELL LET'S, LET'S FORMALIZE THAT. 
          SO WE'LL ALL HAVE IT AS A MATTER OF COURT RECORD AND THAT WAY WE CAN, THAT WAY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING GO BACK TO SO AND I WE'LL TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. 
          DO YOU WANT YOU WANT IT IN BY, BY TUESDAY AFTER O FIVE O'CLOCK TUESDAY. 
          OKAY, THEN WE'LL GET IT POST ON WEDNESDAY. 
          YEAH, WE'RE POSTED. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE HAVE EVERYBODY WANTS IT IN THEIR PACKET. 
          YEAH, WE'LL MAKE THAT AS A FORMAL ACTION ITEM ON OUR NEXT COURT AGENDA, JUST SO WE'LL HAVE READ THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, NOW TANYA, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, CONSIDER, UH, CONSOLIDATING POLLING LOCATIONS FOR THE NOVEMBER, 2013 ELECTION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AN AMENDMENT ELECTION YEAR, WE DON'T NORMALLY NEED ALL THREE POLLING PLACES OPEN, SO WE CONSOLIDATE POLLING LOCATIONS. 
          THE RULES THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN IS THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSOLIDATE WITHIN THE SAME PRECINCT AND THAT YOU NEED TO STAY NEAR, UH, 5,000 AS CLOSE TO 5,000 AS YOU CAN. 
          A COUPLE OF THESE WERE LITTLE HIGHER AS YOU NOTICE, BUT SECRETARY  ALREADY TOLD US THAT IT'S OKAY. 
          OUR NUMBERS ARE OKAY THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE PICKED THREE POLLING PLACES FOR EACH PRECINCT. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK HERE ON PRECINCT, ON YOUR PAPERWORK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOURS ARE ANY COLOR OR NOT, Y'ALL HAVE 
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THESE IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          COLOR. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, WE DON'T NEED ANY COLOR. 
          I COLORED MINE. 
          OKAY, WELL THE FIRST ONE, OKAY, THE FIRST ONE IN EACH ONE IS THE ONE THAT IS, UH, ONE, ONE FIRST ONE IS THE ONE THAT ANSWER WE'LL BE VOTING AT. 
          SO LIKE FOR PRECINCT ONE, UM, WE'LL BE VOTING AT FIRST BAPTIST, KAMAN, ADMIRER AND . 
          SO IN TWO, YOU KNOW, BORN NATURE LAST NAME FOR COURTHOUSE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE HOW YOU READ THOSE. 
          THE FIRST LINE OF EACH SECTION FOR EACH PRECINCT IS THE ONE WHERE WE'LL BE ACTUALLY VOTING. 
          THE OTHERS WILL BE CONSOLIDATED INTO THAT LOCATION. 
          SO THERE'LL BE NO BOX AT MAYBANK CITY HALL. 
          MAYBANK CITY MAYBANK WILL BE VOTING AT THE FIRST IS KEMP. 
          THE ONLY OTHER OPTION, THOSE TWO IS EITHER VOTE AT MAYBANK OR VOTE AT KEMP. 
          IF YOU PREFER TO HAVE MAYBANK INSTEAD OF KEMP, I CAN SWITCH THOSE AROUND. 
          THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD TRY. 
          UH, ABOUT EIGHT MILES AND I CAN PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEE YOU THAT NOT EVERYBODY THAT WOULD BOAT THAT MAYBANK IS GONNA DRIVE KEMP AND NOT EVERYBODY WHO WOULD DO AT KEMP IS GONNA DRIVE MAYBANK. 
          IT'S PRETTY MUCH FLIP OF THE COIN ON THAT ONE BECAUSE ONE'S GONNA HAVE TO DRIVE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          SO SORT OF PICK ONE IF YOU'D RATHER HAVE THE OTHER ONE, THAT'S FINE WITH ME, I'LL FIX THAT COURSE. 
          THEY'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO DO THE EARLY VOTING. 
          THE EARLY VOTING. 
          WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE EARLY VOTING AT THE FOUR, AT THREE STEP COURTHOUSES AND THE ANNEX. 
          SO THAT WILL ALL STILL BE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE TYPICALLY VOTE. 
          YES. 
          BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING 30 LOCATIONS, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THESE 12 OPEN AND UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING, IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE RIGHT NOW, WE CAN CHANGE THAT IF YOU PREFER. 
          WELL THAT'S I THE FLIP COIN THING. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THERE EQUAL, THEY BOTH GONNA HAVE TO DRIVE ONE, ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          SO I JUST PICKED ONE. 
          ALL WE DO IS PICK THE NEXT TIME WE GO AROUND, PICK THE OTHER ONE TO WATCHED IT. 
          YES, YOUR HONOR. 
          UM, IN EACH ONE OF THESE WHERE THERE'S CONSOLIDATION IS THE ONE THAT'S BEING CONSOLIDATED IS, IS THAT THE CLOSEST LOCATION IN THAT BASIN? LIKE THE VERY TOP WAS FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH CALLED? WE THOUGHT IT WAS THE MOST CENTRAL AS WE AS WE GET IT AND MAKING PEOPLE DRIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          EXCEPT FOR WE HAND PLUS LECTURES OR THE TO UP. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL CERTAINLY NEED TO PUBLICIZE THESE IF, IF WE SO APPROVED THIS MORNING OF THIS AFTERNOON. 
          BUT EARLY VOTING WILL BE AT THREE SUB COURTHOUSE ACT THREE SUB COURTHOUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S YOUR PLEA? I BELIEVE I WANNA MOVE IT SINCE THE EARLY VOTING'S GONNA BE AT THE SUB COURTHOUSE. 
          I BELIEVE I MOVE THE, UH, ELECTION DAY VOTING BOOTH MAY OFF EASILY DONE. 
          THAT MIGHT BE A MISTAKE, BUT IF IT'S IT'S ON ME, I'LL TAKE IT. 
          I'LL, IT IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          IT, IT'S REALLY EITHER ONE'S GONNA HAVE TO DRIVE BUT YOU THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          SINCE THEY GOT VOTING AT CAMP VOTING. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THEIR WELL I WANNA ASK YOU A QUESTION. 
          UH, WHY WOULDN'T WE BE DOING BOX 19 THAN BOX 26 OVER THERE? WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING BOTH. 
          WE'RE DOING BETHANY BAPTIST, EMANUEL BAPTIST AND FIRST ASSEMBLY OF GOD. 
          IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE PUTTING A LOT ON, ON BETHANY BAPTIST. 
          THEY'RE PRETTY SMALL PLACE OVER THERE. 
          YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE IT TO THOSE THREE FIT TOGETHER. 
          LOCATION FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO OR NOT NUMBER TWO, NO PROBLEM. 
          . 
          THAT'LL BE AN ISSUE. 
          SUBJECT. 
          SORRY, SUBJECT. 
          THERE'S 
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NOT ANY, IF THE AMENDMENTS OKAY, THE AMENDMENT IS AMENDMENT ELECTION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE BONDS ON TOP OF THAT. 
          WELL HOW ABOUT JUST MOVE IT TO THE FIRE STATION? THAT'S A BAD IDEA BECAUSE THEN WE'LL HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE ONE OF OUR PARTIES WILL REFUSE TO GO THERE. 
          AND SECOND FOR DEMOCRATS. 
          DEMOCRATS JUDGE, WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE WOULD BE. 
          VOTING AT THE FIRE MOVED ACROSS TO THE CITY, TO THE CITY, UH, SERVICE CENTER DOWN THERE PUT, UH, MOVED THAT AWAY FROM THE FIRE STATION. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          I I DO REMEMBER THAT. 
          THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH SAFETY THEY THOUGHT RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIRE STATION WHILE THEY'RE WORKING WORKERS. 
          THAT JUST GOT MY MEMORY REFRESH. 
          SO LEAVE BEST. 
          WELL, UH, YEAH, NEED TO MOVE, UH, TWO OF THEM COMING THE FIRE STATION ACROSS THE STREET TO THE, TO THE, WELL WE WON'T BE VOTING THERE. 
          WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT THE FIRE STATION AND ROSEO AND BETHLEHEM BAPTIST ARE ALL GONNA VOTE AT BETHLEHEM BAPTIST THIS TIME AROUND. 
          OH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE IN THERE WILL VOTE AT THE, THE NUMBER ONE WON'T GO CROSS THERE. 
          BE ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER CHANGES OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS? JIMMY, YOU OKAY TO HEAR? YEAH, LET'S RAY. 
          ALRIGHT, LEMME PLAN ON ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE WITH THE CHANGE I GUESS DOWN IN PRECINCT FOUR. 
          I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING ELECTION JUDGES AND ALTERNATE JUDGES FRAUD. 
          THE ELECTION WAS THROUGH JULY, 2014. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND YOU'LL NOTE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BLANKS IN ONE OF YOUR LIST OF ELECTION JUDGES. 
          UH, IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING HOW THAT WORKS, IF THE UH, PARTY CANNOT COME UP WITH ENOUGH PEOPLE TO FILL IN THE SPOTS, THEN WE GO TO TOWN FIND ANY PEOPLE THAT WILL FILL IN THOSE SWATS THAT ARE IN THAT PARTY. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BLANKS. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? THIS WOULD CARRY US THROUGH THE, UH, MARCH AND MAY ELECTION. 
          YES. 
          AND ANYONE ELSE WE MIGHT HAVE? YES, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED BY THE, UH, ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR. 
          SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. 
          HAVE A SECOND. 
          I COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED. 
          ALL THIS NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSED AND APPROVE THE TITLE FOUR E CHILD WELFARE SERVICES. 
          THIS IS A NON-FINANCIAL AGREEMENT. 
          PURCHASE CLIENT SERVICES. 
          UH, 2 3 9 3 9 7 5 13 1. 
          AND THIS IS THE AGREEMENT WE'VE, UH, NORMALLY SIGNED, UH, WITH UH, CHILD PROTECTIVE, UH, SERVICES I BELIEVE. 
          AND UH, IT'S DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY FUNDING ON OUR PART, IT'S JUST SOME AMENDMENTS THAT I THINK CAME OUT OF LAST. 
          FIRST YOU HAVE THE LETTER THERE AND AGENDA PACKET. 
          ANY DISCUSSION OTHER THAN THE AMENDMENTS THAT I CAME OUT? THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION PRIMARILY HAD TO DO WITH THE RECORDS. 
          IF YOU PROTECTION, CHILD PROTECT CCPS. 
          THAT'S MY BELIEF. 
          SO GOOD. 
          I DON'T THINK WE WON. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          WE GOT A NOTE DURING RECORDS TO SEE IF I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          I THE CONTRACT COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER. 
          NUMBER 15, DISCUSS. 
          CONSIDER ADVERTISING A BID OR A USED SKIDS LOADER, A SKID STEER LOADER OR PRECINCT NUMBER ONE, UH, PRECINCT NUMBER ONE IS, UH, USED SKID LOADER. 
          WE ION I I'M GONNA SAY THIS, I ACTUALLY HAVE A ATTORNEY GOING, UH, 
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TIME STRENGTH THING OR GETTING A IN AND THE COURT NOT TO. 
          I'LL PULL THAT, BUT WHEN I THINK IT WAS IN THIS WEEK, GIVEN THE PROPER RIGHT, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MAKE A PROPER NEED TO GET IT DONE RIGHT AWAY. 
          MOTION. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE TO HAVE A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER SHANE. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED. 
          ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDERING, UH, PURCHASING A TRUCK FOR JUVENILE PROBATION THROUGH THE BIBLE PROTOCOL. 
          JUDGE, YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS IS THE, UH, TRUCK. 
          I THINK THAT THE AUDITOR AGREED PROBATION TO SOME MONEY AROUND AND PURPOSE. 
          THAT VEHICLE ONE'S PRETTY WORE OUT. 
          WE'RE PUTTING THAT IN THE OPTION. 
          UH, IT'S ON BY BOARD. 
          GOT ON AGENDA BECAUSE 25 RULE, UH, THE PRICE. 
          25,000 3 28. 
          I THINK THEY HAVE THAT VEHICLE READY. 
          UH, I THINK THEY'RE ON THE GROUND IF WE APPROVE. 
          AND THIS IS MONEY THAT SHE HAS IN HER BUDGET. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN THIS, THIS THE PICKUP BUYING A CREW CAB PICKUP. 
          RIGHT? I THINK THEY'VE DETERMINED THAT, UH, BETTER LAST LONGER VEHICLE. 
          WELL I JUST SOUNDS LIKE A BIG VEHICLE FOR YEAH, I MEAN I JUST CAN'T WHY THEY NEED A PICKUP. 
          I THINK IN THE PAST THEY HAD A, UH, LIKE A TRAILBLA. 
          I JUST, THEY THOUGHT THAT THE ROADS AND PICK UP, THAT'S WHAT EXPLAINED TO ME. 
          SO EVERYBODY THE ROAD THIS MORNING ALSO WHEN THEY, THEY'RE PICKING UP THE JUVENILES AND STUFF BACK THE TRUCK IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS. 
          WOULD YOU THINK THAT? I THINK SO. 
          I THINK MY THING IS IT CAR LOOKS LIKE IT IS SAME. 
          IT'S THE SAME EXACT. 
          IT ACTUALLY ABOUT TWO 14 THE SAME TRUCK. 
          HOW MANY VEHICLES DID I, I'M NOT AWARE. 
          I KNOW. 
          I THINK THERE'S ONE, THERE'S A REQUEST FOR THE NEXT THAT TO ADD ANOTHER IN ADDITION TO THIS. 
          YES. 
          YES, SHE IS, SHE IS USING HER STATE FUNDS, NOT COUNTY FUNDS. 
          SHE HAD SOME ROLLOVER TO TAKE BACK OR SHE WANTED TO BUY, BUY TWO VEHICLES, ONE THIS IN THIS FISCAL AND ONE FOR NEXT AND ONE FROM THE NEXT FISCAL WOULD COME OUT OF WHICH HER 2014 STATE FUNDS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO JACK? NO. 
          I MAY PLAN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE OR DISCUSS FURTHER ON ITEM 16. 
          I I RECKON SHE'S GOT TO HAVE A BIG OLD PICK STATE FUNDS THAT COST US ANYTHING. 
          PARDON THE AUDITOR. 
          IT'S STATE MONEY. 
          SHE HAS STATE MONEY UP STILL LOOKS LIKE PRETTY GOOD BARGAIN ON MORNING. 
          I WE HER BACK. 
          BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER MANU. 
          A SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          MR. SHANE SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A. 
          THOSE OPPOSED ALL. 
          NUMBER 17 IS DISCUSSED. 
          CONSIDER ADVERTISING UH, A BID FOR CHEMICAL RUSH CONTROL SERVICES FOR VARIOUS PRECINCTS. 
          UH, GENTLEMEN, I APPRECIATE ONE APPROACH ME ON THIS. 
          I THINK IT'S, I THINK HE'S EXPLORED THIS, UH, PROCEDURE AND I'M NOT, MIGHT BE INVOLVED. 
          WELL I'M NOT SURE SOME DISCUSSION. 
          I'VE EVEN DONE SOME RESEARCH. 
          HAVE YOU? YES, I HAVE. 
          THAT'S WHY I HAVE VARIOUS, VARIOUS, UH, UH, I'VE GOT INSPECTION THAT PROVIDED AND, AND 
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Y COMMISSION WILL ADVERTISE AND I'M GETTING GOOD OUT IT. 
          DO YOU DO WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIFIED NUMBER OF ROADS? IN OTHER WORDS, ROAD MILES PER PRECINCT JUST FOR THE COUNTY FOR, FOR THE BID BECAUSE THERE WAS MILES, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN LIKE ZERO TO 50, 50 TO, WHAT WAS IT? 50 TO TWO 50. 
          50 TO 202 THREE OH. 
          AND THEN AT 300 MILES IS WHERE WE REALLY, YOU REALLY GOT A BREAK. 
          I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA. 
          UH, SIMILAR TO ROAD MATERIAL. 
          I THINK IT WOULD HELP A LOT IF WE COULD GET A ESTIMATE ON ALL THIS STUFF. 
          I KNOW WE COULD APPROVE THE BID FOR EACH. 
          YEAH, APPROVE THE BID. 
          WHAT I CAN DO IS, IS IF YOU GUYS GIMME A UH, MILEAGE, WE COULD HAVE IT BID BY BY MILE 200, 2 3 OPTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ALSO I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, UH, IT'S WOULD IT BE SPECIFIED IN THE BED? OF COURSE. 
          I TALKED TO ONE VENDOR THAT UH, SAID THAT A CENTER LANE MILE IS BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD. 
          NO, EIGHT FEET WIDE. 
          ONE GUY 6 16, 1 GUY SAYS EIGHT. 
          SO YOU KNOW, DOES THAT NEED TO BE SPECIFIED IN THE BID THAT THE CENTER LINE MILE INCLUDES BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          CENTER LINE. 
          AND YOU CAN DO VARIOUS TIMES. 
          SO THE ONE GUY THAT I TALKED TO PREVIOUSLY, HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T BREAK HIS DOWN LIKE THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T, THAT'S WHY I WASN'T IN BOAT. 
          WELL YOU NOT PUT OUT BY THE ACRE THEN THAT WAY. 
          WELL THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T WANT THAT GUY BECAUSE WHEN HE PUT IT OUT BY THE AC IT WAS HARD. 
          WELL HE SAID HIS COMPUTER'S FAIRLY OFF. 
          I JUST, THAT MAY BE THE END OF LAST. 
          THAT'S EXPERTISE SUFFERING FROM ECONOMIC. 
          I WOULD STRONGLY, UH, SUGGEST AND APPRECIATE ANY KIND OF INPUT YOU GUYS HAVE ON A . 
          ALSO, IT WAS JUST FIRST SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT THERE'S A, IS THERE A WIDTH ISSUE OR THE, THE VENDOR I TALKED TO, UM, THE CENTER LINE CONSIDERED BOTH SIDES. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. 
          AND YOU GET VARIOUS HEIGHTS. 
          EIGHT FOOT ALL THE WAY TO EIGHTEEN SIXTEEN, SIXTEEN TO 18. 
          THEY CALL IT SCHOOL BUS HIGH. 
          DO WE ALSO NEED TO PUT IN THERE ABOUT THE, IN OTHER WORDS THEY SPRAY FOR FOR BRUSH DARK IN OCTOBER, BRUSH IS WOODY AND THEN THEY COME BACK IN MAY AND SPRAY FOR JOHNSON GRASS. 
          BUT DOES THAT NEED TO COVER THE OCTOBER SPRAYING? 'CAUSE I WANT TO DO SOME, WELL IT IS SEPARATE. 
          I WANT TO DO SOME IN OCTOBER AND I WANT BE SURE WE GOT A SET TO COME BACK. 
          YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS. 
          YOU NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT. 
          I WANT 'EM TO COME BACK IN MAY AND SPRAY THE JOHN. 
          THAT'D BE A SET DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT CHEMICAL, DIFFERENT PRICE. 
          I'M SURE I RECOMMEND IT'S CONSIDERED WORKING WITH A COUPLE GUYS TO TURN THAT OR MAYBE WE HAVE A PREBI, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA. 
          WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. 
          PREBI IT COULD CHANGE, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE FOR A COUPLE AND A BETTER ON BOARD WITH DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING. 
          WE HAVE PRE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AN INPUT ON THAT. 
          THEY, THEY'LL DO MULTIPLE THINGS. 
          LIKE THEY'LL COME, YOU KNOW, A SEPARATE ITEM AND BE SPRAYING AROUND TELEPHONE PELES OR SPRAYING AROUND CUL AND BRIDGES, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING. 
          IT'S THE MAIN, THE MAIN BIGGEST ITEM IS THE BRUSH CONTROL AND THEN THE GRASS AND WES DIFFERENT WHATEVER. 
          I THINK IT'S BE WEIGHTED ON INSURANCE TOO AS WELL. 
          YEAH, THEY HAVE, YEAH, THEY HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF INSURANCE. 
          OKAY, WHAT'S YOUR PLEA? I MOVE OUT. 
          SECOND MOTION MANNING AND A SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A. 
          AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED DISCUSS AND CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. 
          THESE WERE EMAILED TO ME LAST WEEK. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? 
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NO MA'AM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE, UH, THERE'S SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS INCLUDED IN THIS SIMPLY FOR THE FACT WE HAVE SOME GRANT MONIES THAT CAME IN AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE SPENT UP. 
          ALSO. 
          UM, THE SRO REIMBURSEMENT FROM NEY ON TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICERS THAT THEY, UH, HAVE CONTRACTING FORM. 
          WE'RE ADJUSTING THE REVENUE LINE. 
          AND THOSE ARE RIGHT REIMBURSES? YES. 
          WHAT WAS THE THEY'RE TRYING TO SET UP SOME NEW EQUIPMENT, GET SOME THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO OPERATE ON. 
          IN FACT THEY'RE WHAT KIND UH, WHAT WAS IT THEY ASKED FOR? KW CALLED YOU? IT WAS FOR A UM, IT WAS A SHREDDER. 
          A SHREDDER. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID. 
          A COMMERCIAL SIZE SHREDDER. 
          NOT LIKE A PAPER SHREDDER. 
          LIKE THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY TOLD ME. 
          THAT MAY BE THE REASON WHY WE EVERYBODY HAVE CHANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM TRANSFER SHOWN BY THE MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION. 
          MR. NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT. 
          CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT. 
          254,000 442 52. 
          UH, THERE'S ONE REGISTER THAT'S AN MANUAL REGISTER THAT HAD NOT BEEN EMAILED TO ALL THOSE IN YOUR 
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THANK YOU SIR. 
          NOW, UH, TWO, YOU CAN'T REMEMBER THE ONE TO PEOPLE GOING? YES SIR, WE DID. 
          UH, I DON'T, PROBABLY NOT. 
          DEPENDS ON WE DON'T PAY 'EM ALL AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAD, YOU HAD SOME LAST TIME I REMEMBER. 
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YOU KNOW, 
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EXPLAIN GISI MIGHT ASK GEORGE. 
          YOU CAN'T GEORGE SIR. 
          GIS CRIME ANALYSIS. 
          WHAT, WHAT DOES ALL THAT INVOLVE? THAT GIS CRIME ANALYSIS BUDGET WAS USED FOR DOING ANALYTICS ON DATA AND DATA SUPERIMPOSED ON THE MAPS THAT WE USE. 
          SO WHAT THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY WOULD BE A VISUAL OF WHERE IN THE CITY OF FOUR WHERE BURGLARIES OCCUR, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THING. 
          IT COST US 8,675 TO MAKE MAP SAYING WHAT WHATCHA LOOKING AT LOOK LIKE. 
          DEBT MOTION, WIRELESS. 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE TALKING TO DIFFERENT ISSUES. 
          THAT MOTION. 
          THAT MOTION ISS CRIME ANALYSIS. 
          SO NET MOTION IS A PRODUCT WE USE OUT THE FIELD. 
          WE, UH, PATROL, DEPUTIES, DEPART ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES. 
          THAT'S HOW WE COMMUNICATE BACK TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO UH, USE OUR SOFTWARE. 
          NOT ONLY TO DO, UM, NOT ONLY TO DO THE REPORTING. 
          WHAT WE DISPATCH COMPUTER DISPATCH. 
          SO THE CALL CAN, WHEN WE CAN, A CALL GOES THROUGH THE, THAT MOTION SYSTEM. 
          IT'S A VIRTUAL, IT'S A NETWORK. 
          IT'S A CONNECTION BACK INTO OUR NETWORK FOR THE, SO THIS, THIS IS LIKE A CONTRACT COST THEN WE'VE ALREADY YEAH, WE, WE OWN THAT MOTION AND WE PAY AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEE. 
          SO AS NEW UPDATES COME, IT'S 400. 
          YOUR AUTOMATICALLY LICENSES. 
          IT'S FROM FEBRUARY 13. 
          ONE TIME. 
          WE, WE'VE USED THE PRODUCT FOR ABOUT THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          DID DO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DOES COMMUNICATION, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE ISSUE? HIS BAR TELEPHONE. 
          WHAT WAS THE ISSUE? HIS BARN FOR TELEPHONE $2,400 TO DO SOMETHING. 
          TABLET. 
          HE HAS A PHONE, WHICH IS HIS OFFICE. 
          WHAT'D YOU DO? NO, WE HAD TO USE, UH, COPPER. 
          MAKE YOUR, SO YOURS IS YOUR 
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PHONE. 
          YOU HE NEVER, HE NEVER HAD A RESCUE, NEVER HAD A, UH, A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH NO, I YOU'VE HAD A D WE'VE GOT SOME. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT ABOUT SEVEN? SEVEN, EIGHT. 
          HOW MANY? MOST OF MY 16 ON THE PROBABLY WHAT I DO SPRAY FOR JOHN SPRAY. 
          I DID WHEN I DID. 
          ARE YOU GONNA BE DOING I GOT A DEMONSTRATION. 
          LOOK, I WISH YOU I PROBABLY BEEN AN OBSERVER FOR A LITTLE BIT. 
          PROBABLY COME DOWN. 
          DO. 
          ALRIGHT GENTLEMEN, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? TO PAY THE BILLS? PAY THE BILLS. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER. 
          I HAVE A SECOND. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY A THEN WE, WHAT WE WILL DO, WE WILL ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING. 
          WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK AND WE'LL BE BACK AT ONE 30. 
          GIVE EVERYBODY ABOUT 45 MINUTES FOR LUNCH IF WE CAN. 
          AND THEN WE'LL START THE BUDGET WORKSHOP THIS AFTERNOON AT THAT TIME. 
          SO A MOTION REGULAR MEETING, SECOND MANNING SECOND MOTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY A. 
          AND WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK AT 12.
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