* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:15] WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE, UH, MONDAY, SEPTEMBER, THE 23RD MEETING OF THE C COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. WELCOME TO EVERYBODY BEING HERE TODAY. IF YOU, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT HERE IN A MOMENT, UH, WE HAVE SOME SIGN IN SHEETS THERE. THE SHERIFF HAS THOSE, AND YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING HERE IN A LITTLE BIT TO ADDRESS THE COURT. WE'LL, UH, WELCOME YOU TO DO THAT. UH, WE'LL STAND HERE AND I'VE ASKED, UH, MR. ZALE TO GIVE OUR INDICATION. THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO BOTH THE FLAGS AND THEN WE'LL START THE MEETING. THANK YOU FOR THIS DATE TO DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS HERE. UH, WE THANK YOU FOR THE REIGN THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, UH, THE FELLOWSHIP OF ALL THE PERSONNEL HERE IN THE COUNTY, AND WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK OVER AS WE DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS, AGI FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE, STRONG HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG CITY, TEXAS ONE STATE HONOR GOD ONE AN INDIVIDUAL. ALL WE HAVE, UH, MAYOR ING HERE TODAY. YES. AND, UH, WELCOME. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW OR DO YOU WANT US TO TALK LATER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT WALK? I'LL JUST HOLD MY PIECE UNTIL OKAY. AND THEN I HAD ASKED ANNETTE TO, UH, COME OVER AND I KNOW SHE NEEDS TO GET BACK, UH, TO HER OFFICE, UH, UH, WITH, UH, HER MEETING. AND SHE HAD GIVEN US SOME INFORMATION THAT, UH, UH, I'D ASKED HER TO PUT TOGETHER. AND WE'RE GONNA START TRYING TO DO THIS ON A MONTHLY BASIS, ANNETTE, AS WE CAN. AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE IT AS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, THE NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, IF YOU WANNA BRIEFLY GO OVER THAT WITH US. UH, YES, SIR. UM, I LARSON OF THE INDIGENT DEFENSE OFFICE OF PUBLIC COUNTY, I WAS ASKED TO DO A COMPARISON SINCE THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE TO INDIGENT DEFENSE, THAT BEING OUR ONE PAGE APPLICATION IS NOT FIVE PAGE DOCUMENT. WE ARE ALSO DOING SOME FURTHER INQUIRIES VERIFYING THE INFORMATION ON APPLICATION. SO IN COMPARISON AND COMPARING JULY 15TH, 2012 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2012, THERE WERE 355 APPOINTMENTS. 138 OF THOSE WENT TO THE PDS OFFICE. 168 WENT TO PRIVATE ATTORNEYS ON THE WILL. SO WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT APPLIED THAT WERE EITHER GRANTED AN ATTORNEY OR WERE DECLINED ONE, IT WAS ABOUT A 14% COMPARISON RATIO IN THAT THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE ARE NOW TAKING ONE APPOINTMENT TO EVERY ONE APPOINTMENT TO A PRIVATE ATTORNEY ON THE WILL. SO THOSE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED AS OF JULY 15TH, 2013 TO SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2013, 117 APPOINTMENTS WENT TO THE PDS OFFICE 117 WENT TO PRIVATE ATTORNEYS ON THE RULE THAT IS A REJECTION OF, THERE WAS A REJECTION OF 73 APPLICANTS. SO OUR NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN. INSTEAD OF 3 55, THEY'VE GONE DOWN TO 307. SO I THINK THE APPLICATION IS THE BETTER TOOL THAT WE'RE USING NOW, AND THE NUMBER OF REJECTIONS IN COMPARISON TO THE NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS IS AT A 24% RATIO. SO THAT'S ABOUT A 10% DIFFERENCE. MORE REJECTIONS. OKAY. THIS WAS, UH, NOT AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, IT'S JUST AN ITEM OF INFORMATION, BUT I THOUGHT YOU WOULD ENJOY SEEING THAT, UH, THAT THE, UH, CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE DRAINING OF THE INDIGENT DEFENSE. UH, COUNCIL HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE. YES. AND THE ONES THAT ARE TRULY INDIGENTS, WE BELIEVE NOW ARE GETTING THE SERVICES, NOT THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE INDIGENT. EXACTLY. I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH WORK DONE IN THAT REGARD. WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, JUDGE WOOD, DOES SHE HAVE EXTRA COPIES OF HER REPORT? WE WILL GET YOU SOME. UH, AND WHAT IS HER NAME? ANNETTE. WHAT IS HER? LARSON. L-A-R-S-O-N. DO YOU HAVE EXTRA COPIES? AN EXTRA? WE'LL, SHE'LL GIVE AN EXTRA COPY AND WE'LL GET YOU, GET YOU SOME. OKAY. [00:05:08] I'M GOING TAKE A COUPLE ITEMS OUT ORDER. I'M GONNA MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. AND THAT IS A, UH, PROCLAMATION, UH, HONORING DON STOY FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICES TO COUNTY. AS MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD, DON IS RETIRING HERE FAIRLY SOON. AND, UH, SO I'M GOING STEP AROUND TO THE FRONT AND ASK DON TO COME FORWARD. AND WE'RE GOING TO READ THIS TO YOU, JOHN DON, WE, WE RAN OUT OF, UH, OF, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? UH, PICTURE FRAME. I GET IT A SECOND, BUT WE'LL GET YOU ONE. I THINK WE BUY 'EM A DOLLAR STORE FOR A DOLLAR EACH. , I YOU APPEAL FOR THAT? I'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. HEY, DON, IF YOU'LL COME UP HERE, AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT DON. I, HIS, UH, FAMILY AND MY FARM FAMILY GO BACK MANY, MANY YEARS IN COLTON COUNTY. DON WAS RAISED OVER THE TERRELL AREA, PLAYED FOOTBALL WITH MY BROTHER, UH, IN TERRELL HIGH SCHOOL BACK IN THE EARLY FIFTIES. AND, UH, I'VE ENJOYED GETTING TO RENEW, UH, OUR RELATIONSHIP AND OUR FRIENDSHIP OVER THE YEARS. AND I'LL TELL YOU, DON'S THE KIND OF GUY THAT YOU DON'T BEAT HIM TO WORK. UH, HE'S HERE BY SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING OR EARLIER, AND, UH, HE'S, UH, STEADY AT WORK AND, UH, AND TAKES GOOD CARE OF OUR VETERANS. AND, UH, DON, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THE WORK. YOU'VE, UH, 15 PLUS YEARS I BELIEVE, AND, UH, HAS A, UH, DEAR HEART FOR SERVING THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED US AND IT MADE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COUNTY. SO LET ME READ THIS THING TO YOU. YOU'VE NOT SEEN THIS THAT I KNOW OF, BUT VER WHEREAS THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KAUFMAN COUNTY BY APPLYING SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE IN THE BEST WAY, SUITED TO THE NEEDS OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL VETERAN OR OTHER BENEFICIARY WHO COMES TO HIS OFFICE FOR ASSISTANCE. AND WHEREAS DON STOY SERVED AS KAUFMAN COUNTY VETERANS' OFFICE FOR OVER OFFICER FOR OVER 15 YEARS, WHEREAS MR. STOY HAS A COMPASSIONATE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROBLEMS WHEN CONFRONTING VETERANS WITH US WIDOWERS AND CHILDREN. AND WHEREAS MR. STAR IS AN EXTRAORDINARY, HARDWORKING, BEAUTIFUL, AND LOVING HUSBAND AND FATHER, HE'S A MAN OF GREAT FAITH AND A GENEROUS HELPER IN ALL OF HIS COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS DURING HIS TIME AT KAMAN COUNTY, HIS GOAL WAS TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE OLDER VETS AND BE PREPARED, UH, TO INCORPORATE THE GULF WAR VETERANS IN THE SYSTEM AS THEY RETURN AND BEGIN TO NEED ASSISTANCE FROM WHERE THEIR VA PLANES. AND WHEREAS MR. STO IS LEAVING KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR NEW ADVENTURES, YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY LEAVING, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BE DOING NEW ADVENTURES. YOU'RE GOING TO STAY HERE. AND HIS SMILING FRIENDLY FACE WILL BE MISSED BY ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF KAMAN COUNTY. HIS SERVICE TO KAMAN COUNTY WAS EXEMPLARY AND WORTHY OF SPECIAL NOTICE. NOW, THEREFORE, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT PROUDLY TAKES PLEASURE IN EXTENDING A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO MR. DON, DON STOY, UH, FOR HIS 15 YEARS OF SERVICE TO KAUFFMAN COUNTY. SIGNED ON THE 23RD DAY OF DECEMBER, SEPTEMBER, 2013. DON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. JOB WELL DONE. AND SORRY ABOUT THE, UH, PICTURE FRAME, BUT THAT'S ALRIGHT. WE WE'RE TRYING TO LIVE PRUDENTLY AROUND . NOW I HAVE ANOTHER GROUP, UH, THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK TO COME FORWARD. AND THIS IS THE GROUP THAT FED US THIS MORNING EARLIER WITH A KIND OF A BREAKFAST PERCEPTION. AND SO, UH, CARRIE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BRING ALL YOUR, YOUR, UH, FOLKS UP HERE WITH YOU, WE'D LIKE TO REP PROCLAMATION TO YOU AS WELL. UH, AND UH, WE HAD A VERY GOOD, UH, VERY GOOD BREAKFAST. COME ON UP. ANYBODY THAT, UH, COME ON. YEAH. UH, AND THIS IS ANOTHER PROCLAMATION AND, UH, THE PROCLAIMING 2013, THE NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THIS WEEK OR IS IT? IT'S IN OCTOBER. IN OCTOBER. SO WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE HEADSTART ON THAT. WHEREAS THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS IS PROUD TO HONOR THEIR FOUR H YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE FOR 106 YEARS OF PROVIDING, UH, EXPERIENCE BASED EDUCATION TO YOUNGSTERS THROUGHOUT THE LONE STAR STATE. AND WHEREAS THIS ADMIRABLE PROGRAM, WHICH SEEKS TO PROVIDE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE CHILD, INCLUDING HEAD, HEART, HANDS AND HEALTH, HELPS YOUNG [00:10:01] TEXANS TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, DEVELOP LIFE SKILLS AND FORM ATTITUDES TO ENABLE THEM TO BECOME SELF-DIRECTED, PRODUCTIVE, AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY. AND WHEREAS IT'S MORE THAN 619,000 URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL YOUTH PARTICIPATES, PARTICIPANTS RANGING IN AGE FROM EIGHT TO 19 HAVE, UH, HALF FROM, UH, OR HAIL FROM DIVERSE ETHNIC AND SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AND TRULY REPRESENT A CROSS SECTION OF THE STATE. AND WHEREAS THE PROGRAM UNDOUBTEDLY COULD NOT HAVE ACHIEVED THIS SUCCESS THAT IT HAS TODAY, WERE IT NOT FOR THE SERVICES OF MORE THAN 56,000 VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE GENEROUSLY GIVEN OF THEIR TIME, TALENTS, ENERGIES, AND RESOURCES TO THE YOUTH OF TEXAS. AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT ITS PROUD HISTORY, THE FOUR H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED POSITIVE ROLE MODELS FOR COUNTLESS TEXANS. AND THROUGH ITS INNOVATIVE AND, AND INSPIRING PROGRAMS, CONTINUE TO BUILD CHARACTER AND TO INSTILL THE VALUES THAT HAVE MADE OUR STATE STRONG AND BRAVE. NOW FOR THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE KAMAN COUNTY, UH, BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS HEREBY DESIGNATES OCTOBER THE SIXTH THROUGH THE 12TH 2013. THAT'S NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK IN TEXAS, AND COMMEND THE FOUR H YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE, AND THE MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE THE PROGRAM IN SUCCESS. THIS IS DATED SEPTEMBER THE 23RD AND SIGNED BY MYSELF AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. SO CONGRATULATIONS FOR JOB WE'VE DONE. Y'ALL WANT SAY ANYTHING? UM, I JUST WANNA THANK THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THE PEOPLE OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY FOR LETTING ME BE THE, UH, ADVISOR AND LEADER OF THESE GREAT KIDS AND THE VOLUNTEERS THAT I GET TO WORK WITH FOR NOW STARTING ON MY 17TH YEAR HERE IN, IN KAMAN COUNTY. SO, UM, IT IS A PRIVILEGE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE OF KAMAN COUNTY AND YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THIS. CAITLYN, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING SINCE YOU'RE PRESIDENT OF THE KAMAN COUNTY , UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY AND SUPPORTING US AS YOUNG PEOPLE GROWING UP. IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY. WE APPRECIATE IT. WELL, THANK YOU. WE ENJOYED HAVING BREAKFAST WITH YOU GUYS AND IT WAS, UH, JOY LEARNING ABOUT YOUR, UH, PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE GOING ON. AND I EVEN BOUGHT TWO POUNDS OF BACON FROM A FELLOW HERE THAT I'M GONNA BE ENJOYING LATER ON . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S GIVE HIM ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE. SHE'S GONNA GET OUR PICTURE HERE Y'ALL TOGETHER. THANK YOU. HERE'S MY BACON GUY RIGHT HERE. OH, NO, YOU'RE SO GOOD. I SAW YOU TRY TO SNEAK OUT THERE. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE. THANKS. AS FAR AS THE BREAKFAST IS CONCERNED, THEY CAN DO THAT. ALL RIGHTY. UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE'VE ALREADY, UH, ON ONE OF THOSE JUST NOW, BUT WE HAVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER THE THIRD, 2013, SEPTEMBER 4TH EPTEMBER, THE NINTH 20. UH, WE JUST, UH, DISCUSSED AND, UH, PROCLAIMING THE WEEK OF AUGUST 86TH THROUGH THE 12TH IS, UH, NATIONAL FOUR H WEEK IN KAMAN COUNTY. AND YOU AHEAD THE, UH, FOLKS WITH US THAT DID THAT. AND THEN WE ALSO, UH, HAVE THE ITEM TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE 2013 APPRAISAL AS THE 2013 TAX ROAD FOR COUNTY ROAD BRIDGE. UH, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY OF THOSE HOURS? MAY WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND, DID ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. NEXT ITEM. WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED ITEM NUMBER, UH, THREE. AND THE NEXT ITEM HAS TO DO WITH 20 A COMMITTEE, UH, TO INTERVIEW, UH, APPLICANTS FOR THE, UH, JOB THAT DON IS, UH, VACATING. AND, UH, I, UH, HAD DON PUT TOGETHER SOME STATISTICS FOR US, UH, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY VETERANS WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY. AND, UH, IN 2012, DON, I BELIEVE, UH, THAT WAS THE LATEST DATA YOU WERE ABLE TO GET. THERE'S A [00:15:01] POPULATION OF VETERANS IN COLTON COUNTY OF 7,104. I FOUND THAT TO BE PRETTY, PRETTY INTERESTING. AND THE, UH, THERE ARE BENEFITS AS WELL AS THEIR PENSIONS, UH, TOTAL $20,437,000. SO THAT'S A PRETTY MAJOR IMPACT ON THE, UH, AMOUNT OF INCOME THAT, UH, THAT OUR VETERANS IN THIS COUNTY DO RECEIVE. AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT, YOU, UH, YOU, IF YOU WANT TO DO A LITTLE FURTHER CHECKING AND, AND SEE HOW THESE FIGURES WERE COMPILED, YOU CAN GO TO THE, UH, UH, THE WEBSITE THERE, UH, THAT HE'S LISTED TO, UH, DETERMINE THAT AS WELL. UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UH, IS POINT A COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD, UH, THREE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. UH, UH, THE HR DEPARTMENT HAS HAD THIS POSITION, UH, LISTED FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW. AND I'VE TALKED, UH, WITH SOME OF THESE. AND, UH, UH, BUT I'VE ASKED MRS. RATCLIFFE IF SHE'S, SINCE SHE'S, UH, UH, RETIRED, UH, OUT OF THE, UH, NAVY TO SERVE AS CHAIR PERSON FOR THIS COMMITTEE, I THINK ASKED HIM TO BE A CHAIRPERSON, DIDN'T THEY? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN, OUR, UH, TREASURER, WHO ALSO IS VERY ACTIVE IN VETERANS, UH, EVENTS. UH, LAURIE FLOYD, OUR HR DIRECTOR. AND, UH, BY THE WAY, JUST SO YOU WILL KNOW, DON'S LAST DAY WILL BE THIS NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE, OR FRIDAY, OR MAYBE ARE YOU GONNA COME IN MONDAY? THAT'S, I MEAN, HE'S SERVING RIGHT UP TO THE VERY END. AND SO, UH, UH, BUT I'VE ASKED MRS. RATCLIFFE, IF WE DO NOT, UH, HAVE SOMEONE APPOINTED BY THEM, WE PROBABLY WILL NOT, IF SHE WAS KIND OF SERVE, ACTUALLY, SHE VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE KIND OF ON AN INTERIM BASIS UNTIL WE GET A, YOU KNOW, TO GET SOMEONE HIRED FOR THIS POSITION. SO, UH, THAT WAY WE WON'T BE WITHOUT SOMEONE FOR THE VETERANS TO, UH, UH, TO SERVE. SO ANYWAY, I TALKED WITH, UH, TANYA AND, UH, MS. IFF AND, UH, MR. COUNTRYMAN AND MS. FLOYD ABOUT SERVING, UH, UH, DO ANY, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF YOU GUYS WANT YOU A GOOD, JUST LIKE IT'S OKAY, WELL, THAT'S UNANIMOUS AGAIN. SO, UH, WE'LL VOTE ON THAT. AND IF YOU'RE GOING BACK OUT NOW, IT'S TOO LATE, I'LL HAND A MOTION TO ACCEPT. SHANE DOES MAKE THAT MOTION. I MEAN, COMMISSIONER, THAT MOTION ALL SAY I THOSE POSTS. AND, UH, I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS MEETING, UH, BEING CONDUCTED, UH, FAIRLY RAPIDLY. UH, SHE'LL BE RIGHT ON TOP OF IT. YOU, UH, STARTED AND, UH, GET US, UH, INTERVIEW THE FOLKS THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR THIS JOB. NEXT ITEM IS, UH, FOR KATHY MARSH TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ACTIVITIES DURING THE LAST FEW WEEKS. LAST FEW WEEKS, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY BUSY. UM, WE GOT A TOTAL OF 25 PERMIT SYSTEMS INCREASING, 1 9, 2, 4, 3 4 AND EIGHT. UM, I THINK THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT HERE, SEPTEMBER, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 22. AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT PRECINCT, PRECINCT ONE WERE 46 PRECINCT, 2, 3 8, PRECINCT 3 27, PRECINCT FOUR HAD 29. UM, AND THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS WERE 41. AND THOSE AREN'T INCLUDED, OBVIOUSLY IN YOUR PRECINCT CODE BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. NO COURT CASES FILED FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS. 33 7 AND THE MAINTENANCE VIOLATION, 38, THAT'S ALL COURT PRECINCT THERE. PRECINCT ONE 14, PRECINCT HAVE NINE, PRECINCT THREE HAD SEVEN PRECINCT FOUR HAD 10 SITE VISIT, FOLLOW UP, PHYSICAL FOLLOW UP, 71 ADDRESSING BY PRECINCT. ONE HAD SEVEN, PRECINCT TWO HAD TWO PRECINCT, THREE HAD SIX PRECINCT, FOUR HAD NINE, A TOTAL OF 24. AND GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS ON THE GIS REPORT. I DID GET ONE, BUT I GOT IT FRIDAY, SO I'LL HAVE IT ON SEPTEMBER. AND IT DOES LOOK GOOD. WE, YOU SAID MAINTENANCE? YES, I MAY WE ACCEPT THE REPORT MOTION COMMISSIONER MANNING TO ACCEPT THE SECOND ALL SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [00:20:01] QUESTIONS FOR BRADY . I WAS KIND OF HESITATING ACTUALLY. I KNOW. TAKE THAT PERSONAL, UH, ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING AN INTER AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF COUNTY AND, UH, COLTON COUNTY TO HAVE EXCLUSIVE. UH, DID I SKIP SIX? I'M SORRY. I DID SKIP A SIX. GO BACK TO SIX. DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING AND AMENDED CA COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATION FEE. I THINK WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING ON THAT ALONG WITH EVERYBODY. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR FEES UP TO COVER OUR COST. AND WE DID THIS SEVERAL, SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, AND THEN WE GOT SOME KIND OF A, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT SHORT ON TODAY, SOME OF OUR FEES FORMS. SO I'D LIKE TO COMMEND, WE APPROVE THIS NEW PROJECT FEE ANALYSIS. OKAY. AND THIS ONE THAT'S MARKED AMENDED, UH, FEE SCHEDULE. YES. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND I FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANYBODY? ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? THEY ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, I. THOSE OPPOSED? NOW WE'LL GO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. AND MAYOR, YOU MAY WISH TO COME UP, UH, HERE AND THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER APPROVING LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF TOWN AND COUNTY TO HAVE EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION, UH, OVER THERE. EJ. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE. UM, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR YOU GUYS. THIS, UH, THIS MORNING. UM, I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK IN, IN UH, FAVOR OF THIS, UH, REQUEST THAT WE HAVE BEFORE THE COMMISSION, UH, TO, UH, PROVIDE HER TO ACCEPT AGREEMENT. TOWN COUNTY. UH, IT SAYS FOR EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OVER OUR ETJ PRIMARILY WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN HERE IS, UH, ALL BUILDING PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS. UH, WE ALREADY PROVIDE, UH, FOR THE BUILDING PERMITS, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA AND THE INSPECTIONS IN THE, IN E TJ. AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO EXTEND THAT TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL. UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING BEFORE OUR VOTERS, ONCE AGAIN THE, UH, MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UH, INITIATIVE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES IN THAT REGARD TOO. SO THIS WOULD, SO WE JUST ENCOURAGE GUYS TO VOTE. WE'LL BE WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU PLEAD? UM, I MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. UH, THAT'S COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. A THOSE OPPOSED. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AWARDING RFP NUMBER OH SEVEN DASH 13 ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR DEPOSITORY SERVICES. AND OUR PURCHASING AGENT HAS THAT INFORMATION. GOOD. UH, WE HAVE TWO VETERANS THAT ATTENDED OUR PRE BID AND SO WE RECEIVED ONLY ONE BID AND THAT WAS FROM AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK. AND, UH, TREASURER HAS, UH, REVIEWED THOSE, THAT DOCUMENT AND RECOMMEND THEY'RE WAIVING ALL CURRENT, UH, BANKING FEES. WE HAVE, ONCE AGAIN, THEY'RE THE CURRENT VENDOR AND, UH, THEIR SERVICE. OH, ARE THEY, WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING THOSE FEES. I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, I'M NOT, I WOULDN'T SWEAR JUDGE ON THAT. WE, THEY'RE OFFERING THAT WAIVING ALL THE CURRENT, APPARENTLY WE WERE, MAN. OKAY. JOHN, DID YOU HAVE ANY? WELL, IT JUST, OH, NORMALLY WE USE THE BANK. THEY'RE, THEY DO FEES FOR CERTAIN WE DON'T USE, THEY PAY FOR OUR SUPPLIERS. WE HAD LEFT FISH LIKE 12 YEARS AGO. WHO USED THAT? PRIVILEGE? FREE CHECKS. GET CHECKS. ALL THE, WE USED PASSED BEFORE BUT YOU DIDN'T MAINTAIN A CERTAIN BALANCE AND IT COULD BE CHARGED. OKAY. [00:25:01] ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, THE PURCHASING OFFICER OR THE TREASURER? NOT ON ENTERTAINING MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE BID FOR AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK? THIS DEPOSITORY BID IS FOR HOW MANY YEARS? TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS. WE ALL HAVE, YOU CAN DO EVERY OTHER TIME. YOU CAN JUST, IT'S LIKE AUTOMATICALLY FOUR YEARS USUALLY, BUT IT'S STILL YOUR CONTRACT. OKAY. I MAKE MOTION. MR. MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. SECOND MR. ROSA. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. UH, NEXT ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING COUNTY CREDIT CARD POLICY. I THINK YOU MAY QUESTION GUYS MAY HAVE ALL THIS, BUT I THINK YOU DID A LOT OF WORK ON YOUR, UH, POLICY AND I THINK, UH, IT'S UH, LOOKS GOOD. WHAT I READ. IS THIS JUST FOR HARD GOODS OR IS THIS FOR FUEL ALSO TODAY? THIS IS JUST FOR, THIS IS NOT FOR FUEL, NOT FOR SEPARATE. WE WRAP UP THIS AUCTION. THIS, I THINK I MENTIONED THE COURT THAT YOU GUYS, WE GET SOME MINOR CARS. A ONE CAR SYSTEM. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE COUNTY CREDIT CARD DECK? UNDER FOUR. UH, THE THIRD PAGE, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PROCEED. OKAY. UH, A SET A PURCHASE OF $500, BUT CURRENTLY WE'RE USING, UH, A CARD I BELIEVE TO PURCHASE LIKE NET AND WE DO GET A PO, IT'S USUALLY OVER $600 OR SO. AND WE, WE GET A PO EUROPE DO THAT WITH, EVEN THOUGH IT GOES ON THAT CARD. UH, IS THAT FIVE? I'M AFRAID THAT 500 MAY BE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER. WHAT WE NEED SOMETIMES, I'M SURE WHAT A FEW THINGS WE CHARGE A LOT OF MONEY ON IS TO BUY BING THAT STABILIZE, RIGHT? WELL I THINK IT KNOW THERE IS SOMEBODY WORK THERE BUT UH, HAS AUTHORITY TO INCREASE AS NEEDED. UH, THAT'S ON SECTION A, THE LAST PART OF THE PARAGRAPH, SECTION EIGHT. WE CAN INCREASE THAT FOR HIGH VOLUME USAGE. SO WHEN WOULD THAT DETERMINATION BE MADE? IF WE NEED TO INCREASE IT? SORRY, WHAT WOULD THAT DETERMINATION BE MADE IF WE NEED TO INCREASE IT? UH, IS IT ON AS CASE BASIS OR IT IS OF COURSE. OBVIOUSLY IT'S KIND OF HARD TO WRITE A POLICY THIS GONNA COVER EVERY DAY. I THINK IF WE HAD USERS FOR THIS THING, I DON'T EVER HAVE A HIGH LIMIT ON EVERYBODY. I SEE THIS THING KIND OF GROWING AND TRYING TO DOWN. MAYBE SOME SMALL DEPARTMENTS ONLY HAVE USE, BUT WE ADDRESS, UH, PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OBVIOUSLY ADDRESSING WELL HIGHER THAN I DO THE VOLUME. WOULD THAT TAKE A COURT ACTION, DO THAT OR COULD YOU JUST DO THAT INTERNALLY? UH, IIII VIEW THAT AS INTERNALLY IF YOU PASS IT BASED ON, UH, THERE AGAIN, WE'RE MORE CARS OUT THERE THAN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY, SO WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF START SMALL ON THIS BUILD IN THERE. AND YOU MENTIONED THE CONCRETE. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY DONE AS A PO UH, TERM WORK STOPPAGE. YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE THE THERE, I GUESS IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET THE, UH, YOU CAN USE THAT CARD. WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEM GETTING PAID OVER JUST TIME IF WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT, THE CREDIT CARD AND OUR CREDIT CARD GOT A 500 LIMIT, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO GET A PALLET FULL. AND, AND WE CAN TWEAK THAT. I THINK IF YOU GO PROVE THIS AS PRESENT IT THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THAT, THAT QUESTION AHEAD WAS ON UH, D ON THAT SAME PARAGRAPH. YOU'RE GETTING BACK. NICK, YOU DIDN'T ASK KATHY QUESTIONS. HEY MAN, [00:30:01] SHE TOLD ME NOT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. DO THAT. THANK KATHY. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY. UH, WHERE IT SAYS THE PROCUREMENT CARD S FOR, UH, HOTEL EXPENSES, MEALS WHERE BILLS ARE BEING ANYWAY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. HOW DO WE, HOW WOULD A OFFICE, UH, BOOK A HOTEL ROOM IN ADVANCE OR UH, PAY FOR A CONFERENCE? IS THERE ANOTHER MECHANISM TO DO THAT BESIDES COURT? I THINK THE PART OF THE BETTER WAY IS TO, UH, GET IN ADVANCE WITH REQUEST FROM THE AUDITOR. UH, IN SOME CASES, YOU KNOW, PART, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IF THEY'RE SENDING A LOT OF FOLKS AT ONE TIME, UH, WE ALLOW 'EM TO UH, PRESERVE, UH, I DON'T THINK WE WANT GET A SITUATION WHERE, UH, I KNOW MYSELF I I'LL GET REIMBURSEMENT. I THINK THAT'S A BETTER TO DO IT. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A SEVERAL PEOPLE, WE, I, WE A, WE SEVERAL, SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT UH, WENT DOWN AND ON THAT CONFERENCE, WE HAD TO REACT TO THAT. I THINK THEY UH, PROBLEM GETTING HAD TO UP THEIR TO GET THAT, GET THAT DONE. WE THAT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE INVOLVED. LET US GIVE YOU HEADS UP IF YOU NEED TO INCREASE THERE. AGAIN, I RECOMMEND TRAVEL. WE GO THROUGH OUR CURRENT SYSTEM WHERE WE GET A PER DIEM AND WE DON'T GET A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE THE AUDITOR FOR REQUEST. SO IT'S BETTER TO USE MY CURRENT SYSTEM TO BUILD. SO WE JUST TAKE A LITTLE ADVANCED PLANNING, BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I HEARD THAT WE LAST AND YOU'RE AT THE COUNTER TRYING TO USE A CARD AND SO WOULD BE GREAT. APPRECIATE I MOTION APPROVE THE CREDIT CARD POLICY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CLARK MOVES THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, CREDIT CARD, COUNTY CREDIT CARD POLICY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSIONER, UH, DEMANDING SECONDS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING A FINAL PLAT FOR THE OLD VIEW ACRES. PHASE TWO BOFF COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR, MR MAN INFORMATION. I REVIEWED ALL THESE PLATS. I HAVE ONE HERE FOR COMMISSIONER'S REVIEW IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT. UH, RECEIVED THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ENGINEERING FIRM AND THE BILL AND, UH, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS THING ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE TIMES AND UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN ORDER. THE MYLAR DOCUMENTS ARE, UH, READY IF THIS PASSES THERE, UH, BE TAKEN TO THE, UH, CLERK'S OFFICE POST. HAS WHAT HE TOLD ME. HE SAID HE DID. JUST QUICK THIS PASSED. UH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I HAD TO BRING THEM TO COURT OR NOT. HAD TO BRING MYLARS TO COURT. I DON'T THINK. JOHN, IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU I DON'T THINK SO. UH, COMMISSIONER, IS THIS THE SAME MATTER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE PREVIOUS SEC SESSIONS AND YES. MAKING SURE THEY OKAY. YES, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT GETTING IT FILED IN, IN PLENTY OF TIME FOR THE REVIEW AND THAT OCCURRED AND, AND UH, AND THE ENGINEERING FIRM HAS LOOKED AT IT. OKAY. YES. OKAY. YES, THEY HAVE. MATTER FACT, I HAVE, I BELIEVE IT. THAT'S ALL. WHERE'S THIS LOCATED TOM? IT'S OVER ON 1 48. IT'S, IT'S PHASE B OF, OF, UH, THREE PHASES. OKAY. THERE KIND OF WASH ALL IN THAT GENERAL YES. RIGHT OUTSIDE WAR GROUND. BUT ANYWAY, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S EVERYTHING THAT THE ENGINEERS HAVE REQUESTED FROM DRAINAGE TO, UH, COVER SIZES, UM, WATER LINES, FIRE [00:35:01] PLUGS, CONCRETE ROAD THICKNESSES, UH, SETBACK LINES, WHOLE, I MEAN IT'S, THEY HAVE THE PERMITS FOR THEIR WATER. I EVEN GOT THE BILL FROM THE ENGINEERING COMPANY. SO OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE TOTAL DOLLAR DOWN ON THE DEAL? 29 84 I THAT MEMORIZED. HUH? YOU HAD THAT NUMBER MEMORIZED. . YOU GOTTA PAY FOR IT. DON'T FORGET WHAT I GET TO PAY FOR. SO IS THAT ANYWAY EFFECT ON OUR NEWER, NEWER PRICE? NOT THE PRICE. WE, WE TODAY, THE PRICE WE AGREED ON BEFORE IT IS THERE'S PLAN APPLICATION WITH ALL THE FEES PAID. PROCEED. SO UNLESS Y'ALL WANT TO LOOK THIS DOCUMENT OVER, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT IT. OKAY. THESE GUYS HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. TODD WINTERS ALWAYS DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, OF UH, KEEPING HIS PAPERWORK IN ORDER AND DOING EVERYTHING WE ASK. SO WELL YOU, IT APPEARS YOU'VE DONE YOUR DUE DUE DILIGENCE AS FAR AS MAKING SURE OBVIOUSLY THE ENGINEERS HAVE TO YES, VERY. THAT'S GOOD THAT TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE AS WE GET MORE TOWARD THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, MR. MANNING. DO WE HAVE SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ALL I NEED. UH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NEED EXECUTIVE SESSION EXECUTIVE. MR MAN MAKES THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. ALL FAVOR SAY WE EVERYBODY A TO TRANSFER. WHEN DID THEY COME IN? WHEN DID YOU SEND ABOUT TWO O'CLOCK. FRIDAY AFTERNOON. WE WERE LIKE THEM ON FEW TO GET SOME ANSWERS AND UM, I ALSO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, FOR THE CHILD CENTER SHELTER BECAUSE THEY GOT SOME REVENUES IN TO COVER SOME EXPENDITURES BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA CHILDREN, THEIR EQUIPMENT. AND THEN I HAVE YOUR REVENUE BRIDGE TRANSFERS, YOUR HONOR, THIS WILL BE THE LAST WE'LL HAVE FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET. UH, WHERE WE HAVE SOME MORE WHEN WE, NO SIR. THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ACCRUE PAYROLL AND COVER THOSE EXPENDITURES AND ALL OF OUR BILLS ARE NOT IN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FREE YET. OKAY. REC THESE ARE, YES. YOU NEED QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENT FOR ON THE, UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFERS NOT ALLOW ENTER MOTION TO UH, ACCEPT THAT PRESENT. RIGHT. WHAT WAS THE PURCHASE OF THE, THE REASON BEHIND INCREASING PURCHASING PROPERTY CAPITAL THAT WAY? UM, THAT WAS DUE TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER PROPERTY THAT WE HAD PAID FOR. WE NEVER GOT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY OFF WAITING AND WAITING. OH. SO IT WAS, WE GET THE UH, ALSO I WAS REMINDING [00:40:01] THE JUDGE AND UM, OUR ATTORNEY THAT I'D LIKE TO GET THAT CLOSED OUT SINCE WE FOUR 13 GET PAID FOR. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HIT THE FUND BALANCE TO PAY FOR IT THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO IF THEY GOT IT DONE, I THANK THEM FOR IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LINE ITEM. TRANSFER TRANSFERS. COMMISSIONER MANNING AND I MAKE SOME MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER SHANE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A OPPOSED? OPPOSED. ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, YOUR PAYMENT ARE MILLION 280,000 6 63. THERE ARE THREE INVOICES THAT I'M PULLING OUT OF HERE. SO THAT'S WHY YOUR TOTAL ARE NOT GONNA MASH. I HAVE A REQUEST TO PAY FOR SOME SOFTWARE AND THE SERVICE DOESN'T START THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO WE CAUGHT IT AND PULLED IT SO WE WOULDN'T GET PAYING IT FOR THIS YEAR. AND THEN UM, WE HAD TWO SMALL PAYMENTS TO DELL FOR SOME COMPUTER STUFF AND IT WAS TO BE CHARGED TO THE DA'S ASSET FORFEITURE AND IT'S KW SCOTT, HE PUT IT FRONT IN, BLAME IT ON HIM. SO WE CAUGHT IT AND MOVED IT OUT. OKAY. DEBBIE LOOKS LIKE SHE'S TRYING TO MAKE YOU CARRY THE MAIL. YEAH, IT MY FAULT. IT'S OKAY. YEAH SIR, WHEN WE GET TO THE CREDIT CARD THING, WE'RE DONE. WILL WE SEE, WHAT WILL WE SEE TO APPROVE THE CREDIT CARD? ? UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW JACK'S GONNA SET THAT UP. HE'S JUST GONNA SEND, WE NOT SEE A COPY OF THE WHOLE BILL OR, OR UH, WELL WE WILL, WE'LL ACTUALLY BE APPROVING SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEN IF WE JUST APPROVE OF PAYING A CREDIT CARD BILL, A BADGE CARD BILL FOR $10,000. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS FOR. SO HOW WOULD WE KNOW WHAT THAT 10, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE'LL BE A COPY OF THE COMPLETE BILL THAT WOULD BE PUT WITH OUR BOX TO BE SENT TO YOU. SHOULD BE ITEMIZED CREDIT CARD. SAY PROCUREMENT PROGRAM. I MEAN WHAT WE SEE IS OKAY THE STATE WON'T BE ITEMIZED THE STATE. WELL IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU GET RIGHT NOW, IF Y'ALL SHOWED UP, I'LL ON THE STATE THAT I HAVE SHOWED UP ON THE STATE PROCUREMENT CARD THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS, THEY'LL SEND AN ITEMIZED BILL AND IT'S BROKEN DOWN BY THE CARD USER AND THEN YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT DATE, WHAT ITEM AND HOW MUCH. AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE A SUB TOTAL AND THEN HAVE A FULL TOTAL. LIKE IF BILL IS 10,000, THEN YOU CAN SEE WHAT MAKES UP THAT 10,000 I SUPPOSE WHAT WE'RE GETTING NOW, NOW LIKE THIS ON DEPOT BILL. MM-HMM. YEAH, JUST A FEW OF THESE ARE MINE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, IS THIS ALL OF THE UH, HOME DEPOT BILLS WE'RE PAYING? PROBABLY NOT. WELL PROBABLY, PROBABLY SHOWS MINE PORTION PULLED OUT THERE. BUT WOULD WE NOT BE KNOWN WHEN ALL OF THOSE WHEELS WERE POUR? YEAH, WE MAKE SURE YOU DO THAT. NO PROBLEM. MR. KAREN, I HAVE A QUESTION HERE. YES SIR. UH, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS NAME HERE BEFORE. AND IT SAYS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. IS THAT THE EXPERT WITNESS FOR I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S PROBABLE THE EXPERT WITNESS FOR THE TRIAL FOR THE GUN RANGE. WHAT WAS HE AN EXPERT IN? WELL HE WAS AN EXPERT IN BUILDING GUN RANGES AND UH, SO THAT'S WHO WE BUT WE [00:45:03] IF THAT'S THE RIGHT ONE. THAT'S RIGHT. I HE'S MISSING A PAGE. DID YOU GET HIS OTHER ONE? WOW. I'M NOT SURE WHO GOT WHAT. HARRIS CORPORATION. CRI THAT'S THE ONE THAT I'M PULLING. OKAY. I GOT THE GOT THAT SOMETHING. YEAH, THAT WAS FOR THAT SOFTWARE. THESE ALL AUTOPSY, UH, BILL GET OUT K HERE. 17,500. WELL THAT'S PROBABLY, UH, SEVERAL OF THEM TOGETHER. 'CAUSE THAT'S USUALLY HOW THEY BILL US THAT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. THAT'S BANDAID. BANDAID FOR THE TRIAL, DIDN'T IT? WHEN THAT TRIAL WAS GOING ON 27TH TO YEAH. YES SIR. NO, FROM JULY 27TH TO AUGUST 3RD SAYS TRIAL COUNTY COURT HAD A PROJECT MANAGER. CURTIS R THAT'S THE PLANS ON THE, FOR THE COURT FACILITY. OH YEAH, THAT'S THE GROUP THAT CAME IN. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. UP THE TOP. YEAH, I ON THE COURT. OKAY. I COULD ASK THAT FOR BECAUSE I HAD OTHER DAY. I DIDN'T KNOW Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THERE WERE NINE OF THEM AT 1950 PIECE. OKAY. WEREN'T WE I I THOUGHT WE WAS GOING LOOK AT THAT USING THAT OTHER, UNLESS IT WAS A QUESTION EVER SPEAK TO THE WELL I DID AND I DON'T, I HAVEN'T TALKED, MR. MCCLELLAN DID NOT CASE THAT QUALITY OF THE TESTIMONY THAT THEY WOULD GIVE TO THIS GROUP WOULD BE IS WHAT WE GIVE TO DALLAS. RIGHT. AND I'M PRETTY, I CAN SEE, I BELIEVE THEY, SINCE I CAME IN, I BELIEVE THAT THAT FIRST YES, I'LL, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HER THOUGHTS ON, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY, DID WE HAVE THIS SENT TO OTHER DAY? UH, PROBABLY NOT. IS THAT THAT ONE WE HAD TO DO AT THE LAST, WHAT'S THAT ON THE LIST OF THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES? OH, UH, THE, THE ONES I HAD HIGHLIGHTED OR THE ONES THAT WE TOOK OUT? NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. I CAN SEE THERE'S MORE THAN THAT. . OH NO, THOSE ARE JUST UM, I JUST THOUGHT OF THOSE SO I CAN CHECK THEM OFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T GET THOSE IN. NO EMAIL. THOSE ARE MANUAL CHECKS EXCEPT DONE. YEAH. I DIDN'T THINK I'D SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE. SO EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED HAS BEEN FULL. NO SIR. DEPENDS WHICH ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT. THERE'S ONLY THREE INVOICES WE PULLED. SO DALE ONE TO THE HARRIS. I'M LOOKING AT HARRIS. [00:51:38] I WONDER WHAT LENGTH DOWN THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON. ANYBODY KNOW SAID THERE SHOULD BE, SHOULD HAVE BILL ON THERE. WHAT'S THE VENDOR NUMBER FOR BULLET FOR UH, 28 39 8. IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOIL REPAIRS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN 28. UH, TRACTOR WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, KAMAN. REMEMBER KAUFMAN SLASH VAN OF WOODY BRUSH AND OTHER BUT IT RUNS ALL WHAT DAYS OF PILLS? ONCE A YEAR FOR THAT? I THINK. SO IT RUNS ALL THE WAY BACK TO, IT'S FOR UH, THE WORK WAS PERFORMED FOR FLOOD PREVENTION SITES IN KAMAN COUNTY. OKAY. BASIC FOR SURE. AND THIS IS WHAT WE GOT. YES SIR. CAN YOU MAKE A NOTE TO SEND JUDGE? NO, YOU CAN [00:55:01] PROVE IT. GETTING THERE. REPORT ON THE INSPECTION STATION ON THE ONES WE'RE DOING THE INSPECTION. YES SIR. JUST ALL THE COUNTY OR YEAH, THEY FOUND A COUPLE LITTLE PROBLEM SPOTS. I BELIEVE HE GOT LOCKED UP. WORD OF SOMEBODY. DO THOSE HOW GET ON HE GOES AROUND AND CHECKS WITH ALL STARTS CHECKING SOMETHING THAT'S OUTTA LINE ON HIS INVESTIGATION. WOULD THAT BE YOU WANT GET YOU THE ORIGINAL WHEN WE CHARGE SOMETHING ON THE MARRIAGE DEPART NOW HOME DEPOT COULD BE 50 CHARGES WE GO IT JUST SAYS YES. ITEM PURCHASED. WELL I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ALING OR AN ON THAT PART. WE PROBABLY AFTER THE FACT POSSIBLY WHAT? AFTER THE FACT AFTER WE APPROVE A BILL. UH, BEFORE WE COULD GET THE LOG ITSELF. SO MAYBE THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE THE DETAIL IS ACTUALLY LOOK AT ALL THE RECEIPTS THAT'S GONNA BE ATTACHED TO THAT BILL. YEAH. AS WELL HAVE PAGES AND PAGES. JUST THE CHILDCARE CENTER HAS A DISCOVER CARD PAYMENT THAT PAGES, THAT STATEMENT'S ABOUT 10 TO 12 PAGES. BUT THE ACTUAL RECEIPTS ABOUT THAT DECK BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT SIZES. SO WE TAKE THEM TO THE PAGE TO HAVE THAT DONE. BUT NOT LIKE WE DO THIS OTHER STUFF WHERE WE GOT JUST THE UH, WE DON'T HAVE IN YOU'VE GOT THE INVOICES ON THAT. WE CAN LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING. SO WE HAVE, IF WE SOMETHING LIKE WE LOOK AT AND IF WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SOMEBODY HAVE, LOOK AT THE [01:00:01] INDIVIDUAL INVOICE OR WHATEVER. I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVE TOO MANY QUESTIONS ON SOMETHING UNDER 500. WELL SOMEBODY WOULD BE LOOKING OVER SOMEBODY'S SHOULDER ALL YOU SAID BILL. THEY DON'T CARE WHAT THEY BOUGHT DEPOT ELECTRIC OFFICER. IT CAN'T HAPPEN. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? CAR ALLOW THAT A SAMPLE. YEAH, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT. COPY RECEIPTS. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ON THE DISCOVERY COURT. IS HER, IS THE STATEMENT SCANNED IN THE RECEIPTS? DO YOU REMEMBER? I KNOW IT'S THIS. OKAY, WE'LL FIND OUT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO UH, PAY THE BILLS? MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL A FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AND I THINK MS. COOPER HAD SOMETHING SHE WANTED TO SAY BEFORE WE CLOSE MEETING. YES SIR. UM, IS IT YOUR TURN TO TALK? YES SIR. YOU NEED TO, YOU HAVE A QUESTION. WE HAVE UH, THE BUDGET ROLLED IN. UH, IT'S READY FOR ME TO HIT THE BUTTON OPERATIONS ON THE FIRST DAY OF MONTH. I'VE GOT CORRECTIONS TONIGHT BECAUSE I ALL AND HEY HAD, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR HELP TAKING WORD BACK TO YOUR PRECINCTS IN YOUR COURTHOUSE IN APARTMENT JUST BECAUSE THAT BUDGET WAS APPROVED OCTOBER 1ST. THEY DON'T NEED TO GO WILD. 'CAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER I BROUGHT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF BILLS TO Y'ALL OCTOBER, NOVEMBER IN DECEMBER AND WE COULD NOT PAY THOSE BILLS 'CAUSE WE HAD NO MONEY. THE TREASURER HAD TO HOLD, HOLD THEM FILE AFTER FILE AFTER FILE OF CHECKS. AND I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT TO HIM THIS YEAR. AND I NEED THAT. WE HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TO COVER PAYROLL, THE BENEFITS, THE UTILITIES, ANYTHING THAT'S AN EMERGENCY AND THEY'LL GET TO GO SHOPPING WITH EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL APPROVED FOR. BUT ASK THEM TO PLEASE HOLD OFF UNTIL AT LEAST THE TREASURER MAKES REPORT. WE GOT SOME MONEY AND WE CAN PAY BILLS. OR YOU GONNA BE DELIVERING THAT MESSAGE TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. IT WILL BE DELIVERED BECAUSE I'M HAVING A MEMO DRAWN UP. UH, THAT PURCHASING AGENT AND I ARE GONNA SIGN OFF ON. IN FACT, I GAVE HIM A, A LITTLE PROOF JUST TO SEE IF HE WANTED TO ADJUST TO ADD OR I HAD BEEN TOO ABRUPT OR NOT POLITE, POLITE ENOUGH. BUT I'M GONNA GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS. IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THE PURCHASING POLICY AS Y'ALL HAVE ADOPTED AND ASKED US TO ENFORCE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME UN UNHAPPY PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA PAY TO PAY IT OUT THEIR POCKET UNTIL THEY LEARN THE LESSON. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN I CAN'T CLOSE THE BOOKS IN A TIMELY MANNER IS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GET A PURCHAS ORDER. SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE SPENDING THE MONEY AND THEN I GET A BILL AND I HAVE TO GO BACK INTO THE PAST FISCAL YEAR AND POST IT AND TELL THE AUDITORS I'M NOT THROUGH. YOU HAVE TO WAIT. SO THEY WAIT AND PUT IT OFF. OF COURSE THIS YEAR WAS, LAST YEAR WAS A, A NEW SOFTWARE CONVERSION PLUS GETTING ALL THE FIXED ASSETS CORRECTED, JACK TAKEN OVER INVENTORY AND GETTING ALL THE ASSETS COORDINATED WITH WHAT THE AUDITOR SAID AND WHAT OUR SOFTWARE SAID. SO WE'RE IN BETTER SHAPE THIS YEAR, BUT I JUST ASKED Y'ALL TO SEND THAT MESSAGE BACK AND LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA BACK US UP AND HELP THEM FORCE THIS AND NOT JUST SPEND MONEY. THEY DON'T NEED TO GO BUY A BUNCH OF NEW UNIFORMS OCTOBER 1ST. THEY CAN WEAR WHAT THEY HAVE AND WE GET THAT MONEY IN THE TAXES IF THEY TEAR 'EM OR THEY'RE GONNA FIGHT. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. [01:05:01] OKAY. BUT NOT JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING SHINY. SO I'M, I'M JUST ASKING Y'ALL HELP. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE MONEY TO GO FAR TO HELP Y'ALL. GENERAL DOESN'T, WE SPENT WHAT'S IN OUR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET PLAN ON SPINNING IT LIKE IN ROAD MATERIALS. SAY IF I'VE GOT 200,000, I'VE STILL GOT 200,000. YES SIR. YOU GOTTA SPIN IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE A PO THAT'S GONNA BE ENCUMBERED TO CARRY OVER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO I JUST NEED Y'ALLS HELP TO HELP ME AND HELP THE PURCHASING AGENT GET THIS MESSAGE ACROSS. WE HAVE A GOOD BUDGET. Y'ALL WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD. YEAH, WE HAD TO REDO IT SEVERAL TIMES AND I'VE GOT TWO AMENDMENTS TO BRING TO THAT I IN. BUT IT'S A SELF-BALANCING FUND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH Y'ALL OR THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S ONE WE Y'ALL WANTED CALCULATE THE 2% BUT 3%. WELL I HAVE IT IN THOSE LINE ITEMS AND I'VE GOT A NEW BACK LIKE INDIGENT HEALTHCARE, I THINK ABOUT $1,300 NEEDS TO BE MOVED TO HER ELIGIBLE EXPENSES. SHE, SHE CALLED TO MY ATTENTION, I DIDN'T GET A RAISE CARE AND I SAID I KNOW YOU DIDN'T, BUT WHEN I WENT A LOOK WHEN I REPORTED THAT IT DID NOT TAKE THE RIGHT FEE. SO I'M GONNA ADJUST THOSE THIS NEXT TIME. SO I LOOK IF YOU DEFINE FOR THE PEOPLE, SEND THE MEMO OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUDGET AND CASH. YEAH I CAN, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT CASH IS WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE BANK AND JUST BECAUSE YOUR BUDGET DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S MONEY THERE TO PAY FOR THAT AT THAT TIME. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE VERY REASON WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ADDING A LITTLE BIT TO OUR FUND BALANCE EACH YEAR AND WE REALLY ALL HAVE A FUND BALANCE ABOUT $5 MILLION REALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE. BUT WELL, OKAY, YOU REALLY, THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON. BUT Y'ALL GOTTA REALIZE YOU HAVE DEFICIT THAT YOU HAD TO MAKE UP AND IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET BEYOND THAT AND YOU JUST GOOD. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OPERATING UM, EXPENDITURES SET ASIDE AND YOUR PAYROLL RUNS PROBABLY RIGHT. 1.2 MILLION FOR EVERY PARKING MONTH. JUST GENERAL FUND. OKAY. SO YOU GOTTA KEEP THAT CONSIDERATION AND WHAT UTILITIES RUN US, WHAT PHONE BILLS RUN US AND STUFF TO ADD ALL THAT UP TO SAY WE GOT ENOUGH IN PHONE BALANCE THAT WE CAN PROBABLY OPERATE IF SOMETHING DEVASTATING WAS TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT. AND WITHOUT GONNA THE BANK AND DOING A A SHORT TAX NOTE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. I THINK Y'ALL HAD BE 1.6 JUST TO 1.4 JUST TO, TO MAKE PAYROLL. YEAH. AND AT THAT TIME THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO DO FOR A COUNTY OR A SCHOOL OR A CITY. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BANK THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. AND I THINK IT COST US LIKE $16,000 OR 14,000 INTEREST BUT WELL, UH, I WILL COMMIT. I THINK WE WERE DOING THAT. YES SIR. EXACTLY. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE NOTES, WHY DID THEY THIS MONEY, WHAT WAS IT FOR? AND IT WAS EXACTLY THAT. I'LL COMMEND YOU ON THE LIST SERVED WITH COUNTY AUDITORS. YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE COUNTY'S AUDITORS THAT ARE ASKING QUESTIONS. HAS YOUR COUNTY EVER ADOPTED A DEFICIT BUDGET? A LOT OF COUNTIES ARE HAVING PROBLEMS. WE HAD PROBLEMS. IF Y'ALL HADN'T DONE SOME OF THE THINGS AND ASKED SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO DO WHAT THEY DID, WE WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE DEFICIT BUDGET. SO I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE. SO LIKE I THINK LAST YEAR WE DID WAS PRETTY GOOD ABOUT COMING TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE OFF UNTIL WHEN CAME. SO WE KIND OF HOW AS FAR AS WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TO HAVE BASICALLY WE A I GET REQUISITION, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE APPROVAL, SIGN OFF OR PUT ON THE, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE STOP JUST SO YOU KNOW, HEY WE GET BUY THIS, WE WANNA WAIT UNTIL JANUARY, YOU KNOW, YOU APPROVE THOSE VEHICLES. VEHICLES COULD BE PURCHASED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING GET THE MONEY TO CASH FROM THE BANK TO PAY FOR THAT. BUT IF Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED, OH WELL, WE'LL YOU, I WOULD ASK TO ON THAT BECAUSE WE CASH PAY. SO EVERYTHING OVER 25,000 HAS COME BEFORE THE COURT FROM PURCHAS ANY YES SIR. WE CAN CONTROL THE LARGE EXPENSES. YES SIR. YES SIR. FOR A CERTAIN DATE [01:10:01] OR WHATEVER. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY PEOPLE THINK AND IT'S, AND IT, I WOULD THINK THAT WAY TOO. I WOULD WELL IT'S MY BUDGET THEY APPROVED IT, THAT MEANS I CAN SPEND IT. THAT'S TRUE. I'M JUST ASKING Y'ALL TO ASK THEM TO HOLD OFF ON UNNECESSARY STUFF THAT THEY DON'T REALLY NEED UNTIL A LITTLE BIT LATER. THEY CAN PLAN MAYBE AROUND IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY LET JACK KNOW OR LET ME KNOW. SEND US BOTH AN EMAIL AND WE'LL TRY TO WORK IT OUT BECAUSE UH, I ALREADY TALKED TO WITH JOHNNY AND HE, HE NEEDS SOME HELP KIND OF CONTROLLING THIS SO HE, WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY WE GOT THE MONEY I'M HAVING TO HOLD CHECKS. CAN Y'ALL DIVORCE? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP FROM AND I DIDN'T MEAN FOR TO LINGER ON, I JUST NO. KIND OF ASK YOU DISCUSSION TO HELP US. SO WE'RE ALL INFORMED AND ALL HAVE THE SAME MESSAGES. WELL, AND THE MEMO CERTAINLY I LOT OF BUT YOU MAY GET CALLS, WELL YOU CALLS THAT CASH BALANCE. YEAH THAT'S USUALLY WHAT JANUARY, WELL LAST YEAR WE, WE WIND UP GETTING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AT THE, ABOUT THE MIDDLE TO THE LAST PART. RIGHT. RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS WE GOT A GOOD SUM IN. BUT MOST OF OUR MONEY REALLY CAME IN JANUARY. SO THE MORTGAGE COMPANIE WERE PAID IN DECEMBER. RIGHT. BUT THE OTHERS, I MEAN THERE WAS ONE OR TWO DAYS THAT HEARSAY SAID OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW PEOPLE WERE PAYING AND WHEN THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES WILL SEND THAT TO US. YEAH. SO THE MORAL OF THAT STORY IS TO AND WHERE WE GET OUR TAX BILL AS COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE SHOULD PAY IMMEDIATELY TODAY WE GET OUR TAX BILL. ME, I'M JUST Y'ALL, WE USED TO ASKING EVERYBODY TIGHTEN THE BELT. I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING WE SHOULD DO FOR THE COUNTY. IT MATTERS NOT TO STEAL TAXPAYERS MONEY, BUT THE MORE WE TIGHTEN UP OUR BELT, THE BETTER OFF WE'RE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE WELL AND THE GOOD GOOD PART OF IT IS WE HAVE GOOD INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOOD INFORMATION, BUT WE HAVE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT RIGHT. THAT CAN BE PASSED ON UNTIL AND WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING PROGRESS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, MONEY ISSUES WE HAD. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND, AND YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT THEY, THEY HADN'T GOTTEN THINGS THAT THEY NEEDED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS 'CAUSE THE MONEY WASN'T THERE TO GET. SO IF THEY DO HAVE MONEY IN THE LINE ITEM GONNA SAY, WELL THE 30TH IS ALMOST HERE. I'M FIXING SOME STUFF I WON'T. AND THEY WIND UP APPEAR OVER FOR THE NEXT YEAR. AND THE OTHER THING YOU REMEMBER, THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT WE ADOPTED IS ABOUT $500,000 LESS THAN WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR. YES. THAT THIS WHOLE BUDGET SOLD. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT AS MUCH IN THERE AND THE ROAD BRIDGE BUDGET IS UP SOME, BUT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DO HAVE A, A CARRYOVER THAT SPEND ON THAT. AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS THAT WE DON'T PAY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SOURCES OF, OF REVENUE. RIGHT. SOMETIMES THAT, THAT HURTS. 'CAUSE IF THEY'RE WAITING ON THEIR MONEY, THEN WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO. THEY SHOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT THEY SHOULD FALL UNDER THE SAME GUIDELINES THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY ELSE DOES TOO. YES SIR. AND I KNOW THAT'S HARD TO DO. I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A STAFF THAT'S NOT GETTING PAID OUT THERE WHEN WE'VE GOT KIDS INVOLVED. BUT I'M, I'M SURE THEIR BOARD WOULD COOPERATE. NOW I'M NOT PICKING ON THE SHELF, BUT I'M SURE THEY COOPERATE. AND WE DO MOST EVERYBODY, IF YOU TELL THEM, EXPLAIN TO THEM WHY YOU'VE ASKED THEM TO DO CERTAIN THINGS A CERTAIN WAY AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE THAN HELPFUL. WE REALLY HADN'T, I HADN'T MET ANYBODY THAT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, UPSET WITH ME. 'CAUSE I TOLD THEM THIS WAS THE WAY IT HADN'T BE DONE. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I COULD PROVE IT. AND EVERYBODY'S BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND SAID, WELL THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US. RIGHT. UM, SO, AND K DEBBIE'S PROBABLY GOING BE TEACHING YOU FOUR, FIVE AND MAYBE YOUR ASSISTANTS, WHOEVER YOU DESIGNATE ON HOW TO GET ON THE S STW SYSTEM SO YOU CAN CHECK YOUR OWN BUDGETS, PRINT YOUR OWN REPORTS. SO THAT BE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A SYSTEM BUT WE CAN GET ON AND GET RIGHT. WELL AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE US SOME TIME 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT CAN HELP TRAIN YOU. BUT LISA CALLAHAN AND THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, SHE DID AN AWESOME JOB ON TRAINING PEOPLE HOW TO DO THE REPOSITIONS [01:15:01] AND STUFF. SO I, I KNOW ED WILL DO JUST AS GOOD HELPING EVERYBODY ON T AND THAT WILL FAN OUT. WE WILL GET PURCHASING AND STW TRAINING. RIGHT. YEAH. BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY THE SOFTWARE VENDOR TO TRAIN IT. WE'RE GONNA TRAIN IT OURSELVES. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY, YOU'RE ACTUALLY OH YEAH, THANK YOU. WE WE CAN'T JUST DO IT COUNTYWIDE. WE'RE HAVING TO TAKE IT SECTION BY SECTION BECAUSE IT'S SO HUGE. BUT I WOULD ASSUME YOU'RE DOING THE LARGER BUDGETS FIRST. MAYBE TRYING TO YES, WE'VE GOT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, ON AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT THEIR LINE ITEMS, THEY CAN DO THEIR REQUISITIONS, PURCHASE ORDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND UM, I GOT A GOOD SIGNAL. UH, LAURIE DOESN'T KNOW THAT I COULD SEE THROUGH THE BOX THAT I HAVE X-RAY LESION, BUT WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THE TIME CARDS TO CHECK THE TIME CARD MACHINES AND SHE HAD 'EM IN HER HAND. I JUST KNEW WHAT THEY WERE. SO, UH, AT LEAST WE GET THAT GOING AND GET IT TESTED. THAT'S BECAUSE THE CLOCKS ARE READY TO GO. AND THAT'S GOOD. GET EVERYTHING ON ELECTRONICALLY. RIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. I'D HAND A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MAY MR. MANNING. MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.