* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] OCTOBER THE 14TH, UH, MEETING OF THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE THAT IS HERE TODAY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT. AND YOU ARE ALREADY NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE SOME SIGN IN, UH, FORMS AND SHEETS THERE, UH, BY THE FIRE MARSHAL AND, UH, BY NOW BY THE TAX COLLECTION. SO, UH, FEEL FREE TO SIGN THOSE UP. UH, FILL THOSE OUT AND WE'LL, UH, UH, LET YOU ADDRESS THE COURT HERE JUST IN A FEW MINUTES. UH, WE'LL BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH OUR INVOCATION THAT WILL BE GIVEN BY COMMISSIONER MANNING. THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, PLEDGE TO BOTH THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG. SO YOU BE ESTEEMED, MOST GRACIOUS. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND MAKE THE DECISIONS OF THE COUNTY. GRANT US THE WISDOM TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. LORD, LOOK OVER THOSE IN WASHINGTON AS THEY STRUGGLE TO COME TOGETHER ON OUR, MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTRY. LOOK OVER THOSE THAT ARE IN HARM'S WAY, OUR SOLDIERS WHO ARE IN HARM'S WAY. LORD, PROTECT THEM AND BRING THEM HOME SAFELY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER YOU'VE GIVEN US. THANK YOU FOR THE RAIN WE ASK FOR, FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AS THEY GO THROUGH AND DO OUR JOB. DO THEIR JOBS. AMEN. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH SAMS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON HONOR OF TEXAS. FLAG ON MY ALLEGED ALLEGIANCE OF THE, OF TEXAS ON ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE. AMEN. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? NOTHING. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE THAT SIGNED UP, UH, IN REGARDS TO ROOFING CORRESPONDENCE. I DID HAVE A LETTER FROM OMEGA HAWKINS, UH, FOR THE REVIEW. ITS THANK THE, UH, COUNTY FOR CONTINUING TO PARTICIPATE WITH THEIR AGENCY FOR THE BENEFIT OF SENIOR ADULTS AND I ON, I KNOW THEY DO GREAT, UH, GREAT WORK. AND, UH, IT'S NICE TO GET A NOTE, UH, THANKING US FOR HELPING, HELPING HIM BE SUCCESSFUL. SO I WANTED YOU TO HAVE THAT ALSO IN ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. UH, TANYA, IF YOU'D LIKE, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE A REPORT? OKAY. NOT YET. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE WILL, UH, GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE REGULAR CONSENT AGENDA. UH, UNDER ITEM TWO, WE HAVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER THE 23RD AND SPECIAL MINUTES FROM, UH, FOR SEPTEMBER THE 20, UH, OR THE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER THE 23RD AS WELL, AND ALSO THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER THE 27TH, 2013. ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A FINANCIAL EMERGENCY SERVICES, UH, DISTRICT. UH, NUMBER SEVEN, IT'S THEIR ACTUAL, UH, BUDGET FOR THE 2013 2014 YEARS. NOT THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENT, BUT IT IS A COPY OF THEIR BUDGET, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER BOND AN OATH FOR SEAN MAYFIELD AND CHERISE CHITTY, UH, WHO IS A RESERVE CONSTABLE ON PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. HER BOND HAS EXPIRED, OF COURSE. UH, SEAN, UH, IS A CONSTABLE AND HIS BOND IS READY TO BE RENEWED AS WELL. ALSO TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE BID FOR RESALE OF PROPERTY NUMBER A DASH 1 47, UH, M DASH FIVE SEVEN, DESCRIBED AS THE GT WALTER SURVEY. ALSO TRACK NUMBER 13 SC, TRACK NUMBER 14 SC AND TRACK NUMBER 15 S, THE SERVICE ADDRESS, 3 0 2 EUBANK STREET IN KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR. AND ALSO ITEM THE E IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE OFFICIAL HOLIDAYS FOR KAMAN COUNTY EMPLOYEES FOR 2014. NORMALLY ON THAT LAST ITEM, WE ALWAYS DO THAT A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT WE'RE ALREADY BEGINNING TO HAVE EMPLOYEES ASK ABOUT WHAT THE HOLIDAYS WILL BE AND, UH, IT BE THE SAME NUMBER OF HOLIDAY HOLIDAYS I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. IT'S JUST FOR THE NEW DATES. IT WOULD BE, UH, IN, IN EFFECT FOR, UH, NEXT YEAR FOR ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? ITEM NUMBER CI DUNNO IF WE CAN JUST, JOHN, CAN WE, JUST TO CHANGE THE WORDING ON THAT, WE SHOULD NOT BE APPROVING [00:05:01] THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENT. WE SHOULD BE ACCEPTING IT. OKAY. UH, ALSO CHANGE, AND LET ME, IT'S NOT THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENT. WELL, THAT'S ONLY THE SECOND PART. CHANGE CHANGE THE WORDING FROM FINANCIAL STATEMENT TO BUDGET. RIGHT. THAT WE SHOULD JUST ACCEPT IT INSTEAD. RIGHT. SO WITH THOSE TWO CHANGES, CHANGING IT FROM THE WORD, FROM APPROV, ACCEPTING AND CHANGING FINANCIAL STATEMENT TO BUDGET, I DO, WE ACCEPT CONSENT. ALRIGHT, UH, COUNCILOR, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YES. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? LIKEWISE. MOTION CARRIED. WE'LL MOVE NOW INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND THIS IS PRESENTATION, UH, FOR MR. DON THURMAN, UH, ABOUT THE BRITISH FLYING TRANSIT SCHOOL MUSEUM IN, UH, PRECINCT THREE. AND CAROL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS. RAY, I'M GLAD YOU'RE HOLDING UP THE DETAILS. I LEARNED THAT FROM A VERY GOOD THING. . I'M HERE TO, UH, EMPHASIZE. LEMME ASSURE YOU, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE. OKAY? I'M HERE TO EMPHASIZE, UH, AN ASSET THAT COLTON COUNTY HAS THAT NO OTHER COUNTY IN TEXAS HAS. AND THAT'S THE BRITISH FLYING TRAIN SCHOOL MUSEUM. IT'S THE ONLY CITY, ONLY COUNTY IN TEXAS THAT HAS THIS MUSEUM. YOU KNOW THAT DURING 1941 TO 1945, SOME 2000 BRITISH CADETS WERE TRAINED AT THE AIRPORT THERE. INTER WE HAVE A MUSEUM IN A 8,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THERE AT THE AIRPORT. AND IT'S OPEN WEDNESDAYS, FRIDAYS, AND SATURDAYS FROM 10 TO FOUR. THERE IS NO ADMISSION CHARGE. AND WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT FOUR EVENTS A YEAR. WE JUST COMPLETED THE FLY IN, UH, MR. SHANE, WE VOLUNTEERED FOR THE FLY-IN THERE SEPTEMBER 21ST, AND WE HAD, UH, SOME 4,000 PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THE, THE FLY-IN HAD A REALLY GREAT TIME. AND I'VE LEFT YOU A LITTLE BROCHURE. WE PUT OUT A QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER AND WE LITERALLY MAILED THIS WORLDWIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE FORMER STUDENTS AND FAMILY OF FORMER STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. AND ONE OF THE MOST RECENT THINGS WE'VE DONE, AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE BROCHURE THERE, WE HAVE PURCHASED AN T SIX AIRCRAFT, WHICH IS THE I AIRCRAFT THAT WE USE TO TRAIN IN 1941. THE ONLY THING IS THAT AIRCRAFT IS IN ABOUT 40,000 PARTS, AND WE'RE PUTTING IT TOGETHER. WE HAVE A, A GROUP OF ABOUT 15 OR 20, UH, VOLUNTEERS WHO COME OUT THERE, THERE ANYTIME THEY CAN AND BEGIN TO PUT IT TOGETHER. THE REASON WE HAVE THAT AIRCRAFT IS BECAUSE YOU SEE THE PICTURES THERE OF MS. BOND THAT, UH, PAULINE VAUGHN BAXTER, SHE GAVE, SHE WAS AN INSTRUCTOR THERE IN 1943. SHE'S STILL ALIVE. SHE WAS AT OUR FLY IN SEPTEMBER AND SHE GAVE MONEY TO PUT THAT AIRPLANE TOGETHER. SO WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HER AND HER FAMILY. JUST AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE SENT THIS BROCHURE TO A MAN IN CANADA WHO WAS A STUDENT OF HERS IN 1943, HE BROKE BACK AND SAID, I'M GLAD YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NAME, A PLANE NAMED AFTER YOU. I REMEMBER YOU WAKING ME UP ONE MORNING WHEN THE SIMULATOR, AND YOU SAID TO ME, WHAT TIME OF A NIGHT HAVE YOU HAD? SO SHE WAS A SIMULATOR INSTRUCTOR, UH, DURING THAT, THAT TIME. SO IT, IT'S A GREAT THING TO, UH, TO SEE AT THE GREAT MUSEUM. WE, UH, ALSO THERE DURING TRAINING, DURING THE TRAINING, THERE WERE 20 CADETS WHO DIED IN. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND MUCH OF THAT. THESE 20 CADETS ARE BURIED IN THE CEMETERY. THEY'RE IN TER IT'S IN A SPECIAL PLACE. THERE ARE 20 SEPARATE GRAVES WITH HEADSTONE AND THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT PAYS TO MAINTAIN THAT. AND THOSE STATUE THERE THAT SAYS, THIS IS FOR A LITTLE BIT OF ENGLAND. WE HAVE TWO MEMORIALS THERE EVERY YEAR. WE WILL HAVE ONE ON NOVEMBER THE 10TH. WE'LL GATHER THERE AND REMEMBER THESE FALLEN MEN, UH, JUST PRIOR TO THE, UM, THAT, THAT'S CALLED, REMEMBER DAY IN ENGLAND, VETERANS DAY WILL BE THE MONDAY FOLLOWING DAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU, LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IT. LET THE WHOLE HOFFMAN COUNTY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT. IT'S A GREAT ASSET AND WE WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT IT. IT IS, AS I SAY, IT'S FREE OPEN THREE DAYS A WEEK. COME BY AND VISIT WITH US. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW A LOT OF HARD WORK GOING ON THAT THERE. WELL, IT'S COMING ALONG WELL. THANK YOU HONOR. ALL ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS FROM OUR AUDITOR TO PRESENT THE AUDITOR'S REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER, 2013. [00:10:01] I PASSED THIS OUT EARLIER. BE SITTING UP THERE. IT ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OFFICIAL RIGHT NOW? WE'VE WOUND UP A YEAR, UH, UNOFFICIALLY IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. WE'VE STILL GOT SOME BILLS THAT MAY BE COMING IN. YES, SIR. IN OUR LAST PAYROLL, UH, HASN'T BEEN POSTED FOR THE SIX DAYS. UH, I HAD A AUDITOR'S OFFICE THAT, AND I'LL A COMPLETED REPORT HOPEFULLY NEXT MORNING, I MEAN NEXT MONTH WE GIVE Y'ALL A FINAL NUMBER SO YOU'LL KNOW TO THE ACTUAL AUDIT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS PROPERLY CODE. MR. CLARK, YOU HAD A QUESTION. OFFICIAL FEES, IS THAT MR. AND FEES ? YES, SIR. AND THERE IS ALSO SOME QUARTERLY MONEY IN THERE. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE LAST QUARTER PAYMENT YET UNDER MR. AND SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET SOME OF THE STATE QUARTERLY MON TILL LIKE THE END OF OCTOBER, THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER. AND IT'S STILL RECORDED IN THERE. THAT'S WHY I SAID YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL OF THESE FOR ENDING SEPTEMBER ONCE WE HIT EVERYTHING SQUARED AWAY. SO GIVE YOU A GOOD PICTURE OF HOW WE LEFT HERE. WE STILL HAVE REVENUE THAT WILL BE COMING IN AS WELL AS, UH, INVOICES THAT HAVE NOT, WE'VE NOT RECEIVED YET. YES, SIR. AND WE HAVE SOME OPEN PO POS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THEM CLOSED. UM, SO WE'LL BE CONTACTING THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO GET ABLE TO TELL US, YES, THIS NEEDS TO BE LEFT OPEN OR NO, WE CHANGED THE AMOUNT AND THAT'S WHY. RIGHT. YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO. UH, ONE OF THE LARGER GRANTS THAT, UH, MS. CARTER HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR US IS THE CRIMINAL DEFENSE, THE PROSECUTION OF, UH, THE MURDER CASES THAT WE HAVE PENDING. YES, SIR. UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND I I PAM, I DON'T THINK WE'VE RECEIVED FINAL APPROVAL YET. IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE WEEK. YEAH. WE HOPE TO GET SOMETHING THIS WEEK. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY WILL ALLOW US TO GO BACK AND PAY SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PAID OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND. AND SO THAT WILL BE ADDITIONAL MONIES THAT WILL BE, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO CHARGE BACK TO, UH, THIS BUDGET. AND THAT'S GONNA BE QUITE A BIT OF, UH, MONEY I BELIEVE AS WELL. RIGHT. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE GRANT FROM PRECINCT CORE ON THE UH, UH, WITH THE, UH, VEHICLE? UH, I THINK WE, THAT WAS THROUGH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND I THINK WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON IT OR SOMETHING HERE. YES SIR. I HAVE THAT WITH AMOUNT TRANSFERS. THAT DOES NOT SHOW UP. NO, THIS IS ONLY YOUR GENERAL FUND AND YOUR ROAD BRIDGE FUND. THAT'S ABOUT $70,000. YES SIR. REMEMBER, CORRECT. RIGHT. WE HAVE A BUDGET READY TO GO FOR THAT. AND HE, UH, OFFICER HAS ALREADY STARTED ORDERING AND PURCHASING THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE NEEDS. RIGHT. AND WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT HE HAD ALREADY COLLECTED IN SEPTEMBER BEFORE WE GOTTA GET THE GRANT. OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, IF NOT, I'LL ACCEPT THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE UH, WELL ACTUALLY IT'S JUST TO ACCEPT THE OFFICER'S REPORT. MOTION TO DO THAT. MOTION. HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU, UH, KAREN FOR THAT GOOD REPORT. YOU WELCOME. NEXT WILL BE, UH, KATHY MORRIS TO PRESENT. UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC WORKS REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 20, TOTAL 30. I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN 30 IN ABOUT THREE OR MAYBE FOUR YEARS AT A MONTH. SO WE QUITE THAT'S A GOOD SIGN. GOOD SIGN. ABSOLUTELY. IN PRECINCT ONE, THERE WERE NINE. PRECINCT HAD FOUR, THREE HAD NINE PRECINCT, FOUR HAD EIGHT FOR COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED, THERE WERE EIGHT. FOUR WERE NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS. 36 WERE MALFUNCTION THERE. 21 MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS, UH, BY PRECINCT, ITS PRECINCT ONE HAD 55, PRECINCT TWO HAD 27 PRECINCT THREE 15 AND PRECINCT FOUR AND 23 COURT CASES FILED WERE FOUR SEVEN FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, ONE MALFUNCTION AND THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS GOT FILED IN OCTOBER. SO THEY'LL SHOW UP ON THE NEXT MONTH'S REPORT. COURT CASES [00:15:01] BY PRECINCT WERE 20 PRECINCT ONE, PRECINCT TWO WERE 12, PRECINCT THREE, FOUR AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD 12 AND THERE WERE 42 SITE VISIT FOLLOWS FOR 9 1 1 ADDRESSING. WE HAD FIVE ADDRESSES IN ONE PRECINCT, 2 0 6 PRECINCT THREE HAD THREE, AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD EIGHT FOR 22. AND WE ACTUALLY DID GET A REPORT, UM, FOR OUR GIS AND THE 9 1 1 PROJECT. UM, THINKING THIS REPORT IS PROBABLY ABOUT SIX WEEKS OLD, PROBABLY A LITTLE BETTER AT THIS POINT. THERE'S SOME ISSUES GOING ON WITH CAUSE UH, FOR THE MATCHED FOR THE COGMAN COUNTY MATCHED PHONE RECORDS TO OUR STREET RECORDS FOR 82%. UM, THE OVERALL COUNTY IS AT 89%. THAT'S INCLUDING EVERY CITY. THE ONES THAT WE DON'T EVEN MAINTAIN, IT'S THE CITIES ALSO. AND FOR OUR GIS RECORDS ALONG WITH THE MA RECORDS, WHICH IS EACH ROAD RANGE HAS A RANGE. THE COUNTY'S ACCURACY RATE IS AT 88% AND FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY IT'S A TOTAL OF 87%. AND THE REASON THAT THE PERCENTAGES ARE NOT IN THE NINETIES FOR THE OVERALL COUNTY IS BECAUSE CO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON THE CA COUNTY. THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE THAT AND THEY'RE DOWN IN A SINGLE DIGIT STILL. SO WE ALSO LOST OUR GIS PERSON THAT CAUSED AND QUIT AND THAT'S THE LAST WE'VE HEARD FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS. NOBODY'S SAYING IT'S GONNA BE REPLACED IF THIS IS GONNA CONTINUE. THE REPORTS THAT THEY SENT TO MISTY TO COMPLETE, SHE'S COMPLETED. SO AT THIS POINT IT'S KIND OF AS TO WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN NEXT. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. AND YOU CAN SAVE MY QUESTIONS FOR JACK AGAIN. I'D BE GLAD TO TAKE . I APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'VE GOT ONE ON THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS. I KNOW LAST MONTH YOU SAID THEY WERE MAJORITY IF NOT ALL OF ONE ONE PERSON. IS THAT STILL THE SAME? HE'S NOW IN JAIL. YES. , WHAT'D YOU SAY? HE'S IN JAIL. OH YES. I GUESS IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN THEN. HE'S A LONG SO IS THIS 21 THAT'S MULTIPLE PROVIDER? NO, THAT'S THE SAME GUY. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S GETTING MORE STUFF ADDED TO HIM. OKAY. WHAT, WHAT IS THE BENCHMARK FOR THE ACCURACY? WELL, WHAT THE COG IS WANTING FOR THE 9 1 1 SIDE OF THE DISPATCHING NINE ONE, THEY'RE WANTING UH, 9 7 90 8%. AND IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR US TO DO THAT IF WE DON'T GET DATA FROM THEM FREQUENTLY AS TO WHAT THE ERRORS ARE. THE LAST REPORT THAT THEY SENT MISTY TWO WEEKS AGO WAS THE SAME ERRORS IN ITS PHONE COMPANY ERRORS THAT THE PHONE COMPANY IS NOT FIXING AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. SO THAT'S ALSO BRINGING OUR TOTALS DOWN. THAT'S A COG IN PHONE COMPANY ISSUE TO DEAL WITH. AND WE SEND THE SAME CORRECTIONS BACK TO 'EM AND WE GET 'EM BACK SIX MONTHS LATER AND IT'S STILL SHOWING AN ERROR THROUGH THE PHONE COMPANY. BUT THEY COGS AWARE OF THAT. THEY'VE BEEN TOLD US THAT IT'S A CONSTANT BATTLE WITH THE PHONE COMPANIES TO FIX MISTAKES THAT ARE SHOWING UP AND THEY CAN'T MAKE THE PHONE COMPANY FIX THEM. IS YOU GONNA BE IN REPERCUSSIONS IF WE DON'T REACH THAT 97%? NO, NO. THEY KEEP CHANGING PARAMETERS OF THE PROJECT SO IT'S JUST KEEP ON KEEPING EYE ON, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE YEAH. TRYING FOR. ABSOLUTELY. IF THIS UH, MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FOR BATTERY IS IN JAIL, IS THERE NOT ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE YES. MAINTENANCE PROVIDER THERE? WELL, I'VE ACTUALLY SENT LETTERS TO THE HOMEOWNERS. HE ONLY HAD ABOUT 60 CUSTOMERS AND I SENT LETTERS TO THE HOMEOWNERS BACK IN AUGUST BECAUSE WE SAW THIS COMING AND ABOUT HALF OF HIS CUSTOMERS HAVE SWITCHED TO NEW MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS AND I'VE GIVEN THE OTHER FOLKS TOLD ABOUT DECEMBER TO GET SOMETHING DONE. SO THOSE NUMBERS SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE NEXT REPORT. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KATHY? WE ACCEPT THE COURT REPORT. WELL A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO ACCEPT THE PUBLIC WORKS REPORT TO HAVE SECOND, SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANDY SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU WELCOME. NEXT ITEMS NUMBER SIX FROM JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN TO PRESENT THE, UH, THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR AUGUST, 2013. [00:20:04] THERE'S BOTH OF US HERE, JUDGE. IT JUST GOES EXAMPLE AGAIN, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE SPENDING THIS TIME HERE. HOW YOU TWO BIG DOLLARS DEATH THERE FOR MONTH. I CAN SAY LAST MONTH IT'S CASHING GET SHORT. YES. AND THIS IS PRETTY, PRETTY COMMON UH, THIS TIME. TIME. IT'S 11 YEARS LIFE. YES. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO ANY SORT OF, UH, SHORT TERM TAX NOTE OR ANYTHING? PARDON? DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO A SHORT TERM TAX? NO. I BEEN, I TALKED TO THE BANK ABOUT THIS IN CASE I BELIEVE MIGHT HAVE DO SOMETHING SHORT TERM TEST NEXT COUPLE WEEKS PUBLISH. SURE. MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF THESE GRANT FUNDS ROLL IN. THAT'LL COVER A LITTLE BIT OF QUESTIONS FOR THE TREASURER. NO, I'LL A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, HIS REPORT. UH, MR. SHANE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE SECOND ALL THANK YOU. RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER, UH, SEVENTH IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A COUNTYWIDE BURN BAN. I PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, JUST, UH, NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW MIGHT TRANSPIRE. AND EVIDENTLY WE'VE BEEN LUCKY AND, UH, RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF RAIN. UH, LARRY, I DON'T, YOU AND I HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION OUT IN THE HALL. I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE AS FAR AS CONTINUING WITHOUT A BURN BAND. YES SIR. WE'VE HAD NO, UH, REAL PROBLEMS AT ALL. I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO ASK, I GOT THE FOUR OF YOU UP HERE I SATURDAY, SO I'D BE KIND CURIOUS TO WHAT Y'ALL QUARTER OR LESS REALLY TWOS. ALRIGHT. SIX DROPS I A HALF INCH JUST FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. ALRIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, WE'VE BEEN GOING REAL GOOD ON IT AND NO PROBLEMS. AND SINCE WE'RE GETTING SOME MORE ROUND IN THIS NEED TO HOLD OFF ON IT AND KEEP FINGERS CROSSED. CONTINUE TO STAY GREEN. OKAY. UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FIRE MOTION? NOT I'LL. A MOTION TO, UH, DISCONTINUE THE NO BURN BAN I GUESS MADE. COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER SHANE ALL SAY AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND IF YOU WOULD, LAST WEEK WAS NATIONAL FIRE. SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, MOST ALL OF THEM WENT OUT INTO THE SCHOOLS AND DID THEIR THING THERE AND WENT REAL WELL ON THAT. SO AWARE OF IT. THE OTHER ISSUE WAS GENTLEMAN'S ALREADY ABOUT THE FLYING OVER LL IF NONE OF YOU, IF ALL OF YOU HAVE NOT ATTENDED THAT ONE TIME, WELL YOUR TIME I GO HERE AND IT'S REALLY NEAT. WATCH OLD, OLD AIRCRAFT AND LOOK AT ALL THOSE MEMORABILIA AND STUFF. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT HASN'T VISIT DE I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS, THEY HAVES SNACKS A FREE DEAL. NOT ANYBODY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. VERY, THEY TOOK SOME VARIETY AT DC THREE AFTER THAT. 1939. HE DID A LOT OF FLYING ALL. UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER NEGOTIATIONS AND PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY IN TON COUNTY PRECINCT THREE. THIS IS THE PROPERTY WHERE WE HAD A, UH, WHERE WE HAD A WORKSHOP MEETING, UH, HERE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, I GUESS NOW. AND I BELIEVE, UH, THAT WE HAVE LOT MORE INFORMATION. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ME HAVE, UH, ANYTHING TO UH, SAY BELIEVE PURCHASE A PRICE LIKE 19 TWO OR 19 SIX? YEAH, PRICE. UH, ALSO, UH, HAD HIM WAS GONE FOR TOWNHOUSE AND SAID JUST CALL IN, THEY'LL SIGN LABOR AND NEXT COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO, SO IN ORDER MAKE THE SALE ZONING IS NO AT ALL. THERE BEEN [00:25:01] SURVEY WE HAVEN'T , I JUST, I STILL GOT A LITTLE DEAL WONDERING ABOUT THAT ISSUE OR IF THERE IS ON THAT SIDE THAT UH, WE GONNA MAKE IT MAKE THE CONTRACT, UH, CONTINGENT ON THE SURVEY, I WOULD, JOHN LEFT THAT I WOULD, I WOULD BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO THAT. AND TALKED ABOUT PIECE OF PROPERTY OVER GERALD PRECINCT THREE. YES. JOHN. BEFORE WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE, YES. OKAY. AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ENCROACHMENT AFTER WE DO, YEAH, WE'LL NEED TO DO A SURVEY IF, IF WE SHOULD, UH, IF THE COURT CHOOSES TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST. SHOULD WE DO THAT CONTINGENT ON THE SURVEY? YES. THE ENCROACHMENT ISSUES. YES. DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE POSSIBLE APPROACHMENT ISSUES. WELL IT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE WAS A, COULD BE AN ISSUE THERE ON THAT EAST SIDE AND UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE, BECAUSE DON'T GET INTO MOVING AROUND AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT HERE GO. I THINK THAT'S . OKAY. UH, WHAT WE WOULD DO TODAY, IF THE COURT APPROVES WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, FOLLOWING THE, UH, SURVEY AND ANY ENCROACHMENT ISSUES AND, AND THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY OF RE ON THE ORDINANCE CHANGE, ALL OF THAT WOULD'VE TO OCCUR BEFORE PURCHASE PROPERTY, A MOTION TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY CONTINGENT ON THOSE STIPULATIONS. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER LIK MAKES THAT MOTION WITH THE STIPULATIONS AS WE EDIT. LAURA, I HOPE YOU GOT ALL THOSE DOWN. AND COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECOND STEP. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT IS A, JUST SO PEOPLE WILL, AND THE AUDIENCE WILL UNDERSTAND, THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS, UH, ADJACENT TO OUR COUNTY BARN IN PRECINCT THREE. IN FACT, A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY SITS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROPERTY AND SO IT'S AVAILABLE FOR SALE NOW IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE SAME AND I BELIEVE WILL, UH, MAKE OUR PROPERTY EVEN MORE VALUABLE TO I DOING SO. SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, NINE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR A FULL-TIME LAW ENFORCEMENT PATROL SERVICES BETWEEN KAMAN COUNTY IN COLTON COUNTY, FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE B AND ONE C. AND RAY, I BELIEVE THIS IS IN YOUR, UH, PRECINCT. AND YOU'VE UH, I THINK REVIEWED THIS WITH THE, UH, UH, SHERIFF BRIAN'S HERE. THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? YES. I BELIEVE, UH, I DON'T SEE THE EXHIBIT A IN THE PAPERWORK THAT WE'VE GOT IN OUR INFORMATION HERE, BUT EXHIBIT A I UNDERSTAND IT TO THAT, THAT IS THE ONE THAT ITEMIZE THE COST OUT THERE. OKAY. THAT KAREN HAS APPROVED THE COST AS TO COVER ALL OF OUR EXPENSES, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR EXPENSES PLUS A 10% OVERRIDE. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE'LL BE AT A, YOU KNOW, NET COST OF ZERO TO THE COUNTY NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED. THAT INCLUDES THE VEHICLE PURCHAS, THE VEHICLE, UH, MEMORY WAS, UH, THE SALARY, THE VEHICLE, THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE VEHICLE, THE INSURANCE, THE FUEL, THE, IT ALL EXPENSES COULD BE PACKAGE. IT'S A COMPLETE BUDGET ON A WHOLE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. IT'S, I DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THE WAY IT'S CALCULATED WAS A THREE YEAR PROGRAM. SO IT'S LIKE 90 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS COMING IN, 90 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS GOING OUT. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A COMPLETE WASH GOT 90,000 PER YEAR. YES SIR. YES SIR. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE NEY ISD ON WHERE SR. AND OTHER OFFICERS WHERE WE FURNISH THE OFFICERS OR THE DEPUTIES. BUT THEY PICK UP ALL THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. YES, SIR. RYAN, YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ONE THING, UH, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND COMMISSIONER BY THIS WIND FARMS FRESH WATER DISTRICT. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE SPEND, UH, OR THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SPENDS QUITE A BIT OF TIME ANSWERING CALLS IN THAT AREA. YES. AND SO THIS WILL BE AN ASSIST. BE ASK THAT JUST TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR TO STAY THERE INSTEAD OF USING OUR RESOURCES FOR THE COUNTY. THEY'LL BE PAYING FOR ONE OFFICER, STAY THERE FOR 40 HOURS. ALRIGHT. SO DO [00:30:01] YOU ANTICIPATE WE WILL HAVE ANY, OR HAVE YOU HAD ANY OTHER CONTACT FROM ANY OF OUR, UH, MUD DISTRICTS OR FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICTS? UH, I MEAN, I KNOW I BELIEVE, UH, CRANDALL, THE CRANDALL CITY OF CRANDALL HAS A SIMILAR ARRANGEMENT WITH, UH, HARLAND. HARLAND. AND SO YES, SIR. IF YOU'LL, YOU'LL REMEMBER WE USED TO HAVE THAT CONTRACT AND THEN, UH, THEY DECIDED TO MOVE WITH CRANDALL. OKAY. UH, SO WE'VE HAD THIS BEFORE AND WHICH I SEE NO, NO ISSUES AT ALL. THE ONLY THINGS WHICH WE'LL HAVE TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE AND, AND ADD ANOTHER PERSONNEL ON, WHICH WILL BE A WASH 'CAUSE THEY'RE PAYING DRY. WOULD THAT BE KEPT IN A SEPARATE BUDGET FOR THAT? IT'S A WHOLE BUDGET INSURANCE, ALL OF IT. IT'S A SEPARATE BUDGET, SALARY, BENEFITS, UH, UNIFORMS, GAS, EVERYTHING, ALL REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE. THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE HAS TO HAVE OR THE, THE OFFICER HAS TO HAVE IN THE VEHICLE IS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. IT'S MOTION? YES. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL ADVANTAGES OF THIS WOULD BE, LIKE BRIAN SAID, IS IT, UH, WE'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL, UH, PATROL OVER THERE AND THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY WILL BE FOR THAT AREA, HOWEVER EMERGENCY COMES UP. THEY'LL BE THE FIRST, THEY'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS THERE TO OUTSIDE OF THAT DISTRICT. YES. THAT WOULD DO, UH, PART OF THE WORLD UP THERE. AND THIS, THIS OFFICER WILL BE ON DUTY 40 HOURS A WEEK. YES, SIR. WE'LL GET, WE'LL SCHEDULE A 40 HOURS. IS THAT GONNA BE NIGHTTIME? DAYTIME THAT BE FIXED UP. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MIX THAT UP. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL MAINTAIN A MOTION FOR YOU. UH, UH, APPROVE ENTERING INTO THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. I'LL MOVE, UH, THE MOTION TO APPROVE ENTERING INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CALL WATER SUPPLY DISTRICT ONE SEAT. SECOND. COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECOND. SECOND. MOTION DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THE VOTE ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING TWO MEMBERS TO THE LL POWER CENTER BOARD OF DIRECTORS. YOU HAVE A, UH, REQUEST, UH, FROM, UH, THE CITY OF TERROLL. UH, THIS IS THE AGREEMENT. BE APPROVED WITH THEM SEVERAL, UH, UH, MONTHS OR SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. AND, UH, CURRENTLY THE TWO MEMBERS THAT FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT, UH, THAT SERVE ON THAT, UH, UH, ON THEIR, UH, TIL BOARD, UH, WOULD BE COMMISSIONER SHANE AND COMMISSIONER. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, MAY COURT APPROVES FOR THESE SAME TWO GENTLEMEN TO SERVE ON THE POWER CENTER BOARD OF DIRECTORS. DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYBODY HERE FROM THE CITY? TERRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE. YOU WANNA STAND AND, UH, GIVE US, UH, YOUR REMARKS? YOU CAN SEE WE'RE GOING BE HERE, BUT VERY FIRST MOST IMPORTANT PART OF MY REMARKS IS THAT I LIKE SHORT REMARKS. OKAY. SO, UM, WE DO, UH, WE, WE'VE, UH, UH, PLACED OUR THREE MEMBERS ONTO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE DID SELECT THE THREE MEMBERS WHO WERE ALREADY ON OUR FIFTH BOARD. THAT'S JOHN DAVIDSON, MIKE CRONIN, AND, UH, DON FURMAN. AND, UM, WE'D LIKE TO DO OUR FIRST MEETING ON OCTOBER THE 22ND WITH WHOEVER YOU'D LIKE TO APPOINT QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAND IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, HAVING TWO COMMISSIONERS ON THERE, ACCORDING TO MR. KIMBRO, HAS BEEN HAMMERING INTO ME KNOW ABOUT THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THIS BOARD, MIKE, IS THIS, THIS IS WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THE BOARD DO? UH, THEY, THEY DO THE SAME SORT OF WORK THE TIF BOARD DOES, WHICH IS TO, UH, MEET AND DISCUSS, UM, UH, MONEY COMING INTO THE POWER CENTER, MONEY GOING OUT TO THE POWER CENTER AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WISELY USED. DOES THAT QUALIFY? DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE TO POST A MEETING? ARE ALL THE MEETINGS POSTED? I GUESS THAT'D BE THE, THE POWER CENTER WILL HAVE, UH, APPROPRIATELY POSTED MEETINGS, JUST LIKE THE TIP BOARD DOES. SO WE USE A SECOND, A 72 HOUR NOTICE REQUIREMENT TO THE PUBLIC. UH, WE PUT IT, UH, ON PUBLIC NOTICES, ON OUR STANDARD PUBLIC NOTICE FOR PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE. THAT, THAT'S ALL CHUCK'S ISSUE THERE. AS LONG, AS LONG AS IT'S POSTED MEETING. OKAY. THERE'RE ALWAYS PUBLIC STUDENT MEETINGS. YES. IF SOMEBODY TAKING TAKES MINUTES OF THOSE MEETING, THE STATUTE SAYS THAT THE COUNTY CLERK HAS TO TAKE THE MINUTES AT A POSTED MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. WE, WE DO IT WITH OUR CITY SECRETARY. OUR CITY SECRETARY IS PRESENT. CAN YOU DELEGATE THAT [00:35:01] TO THE EXCEPT HER MINUTES? WHAT I, I'M, I'M CONFUSED. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD. LET ME, UH, OFFER THIS. UM, I WOULD THINK THAT, UM, IF THE CITY IS POSTING IT AND IF THE CITY IS TRANSCRIBING IT AND THEY'RE ASSUMING THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT, AND, UM, THAT IN THE EVENT SOMEONE HAS, UH, A REQUEST FROM US THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE RECORDS THE SAME AS, AS WE WOULD, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A SAFER WORK OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT JUST SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S NECESSARILY TWO GOVERNING BODIES. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE CITY AND THE CITY IS, IF THEY'RE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT, I DUNNO THAT WE NEED TO DUPLICATE THAT. WOULDN'T, I MEAN, THIS IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ON THE BOARD. IS IT NOT? I THINK, AND WE DON'T KEEP MINUTES OR LAURA DOESN'T KNOW IT. IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A QUORUM OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THE CLERK IS THE CLERK OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND IS IS PRESENT AND AVAILABLE TO TAKE MINUTES WHEN THERE'S A QUORUM. THERE IS NO QUORUM AT THE TIFFANY OR AT THIS BOARD MEETING. SO I DON'T HAVE TO DELEGATE THE DUTIES AND I'M NOT REQUIRED TO ATTEND EACH MINUTE. THESE MEETINGS TAKE MINUTES. WELL, I THINK THAT THERE'S AG OPINIONS AND, UH, LIQUOR STAFF'S OPINION THAT WHEN TWO MEMBERS OF COMMISSIONER COURT IS ON A COMMITTEE THAT DOES CERTAIN THINGS, IT REQUIRES AN OPEN MEETING. IT IT IS FOLLOWED OPEN MEETINGS, BUT WHICH IF THEY DEPARTMENTS HAVE TWO HOUR REQUIREMENT, THAT'S GOOD. THAT SOLVES THAT ISSUE. BUT IT DOES SAY THAT IT IS A QUORUM EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THREE OF US. THIS IS, THIS IS A NEW SCENARIO FOR ME TOO, BUT I CAN SHOW YOU THE PAPERS ON AND AG OPINIONS ON IT. WELL, I I SAY CHUCK IS KIND OF THE EXPERT ON IT. YEAH, I, I I THINK THE CORE ISSUE ARISES IF, IF THEY'RE TASKED WITH DECIDING THINGS THAT THE COURT IS GOING TO DO. AND, AND IF IN FACT, IF WE ASSUME FOR A MOMENT THAT THE TERRELL POWER CENTER IS GOING TO DO THAT, AND SINCE THEY HAVEN'T MET YET, I DUNNO THAT THEY'LL ACTUALLY DO THAT. BUT THEY MIGHT, I MEAN, READ THE DOCUMENTS IF WE ASSUME THAT THEY DO THAT. AND I THINK IT'S BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED AND IT'S BEEN PROPERLY TRANSCRIBED SO THAT THERE IS NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC AND THERE'S ALSO AN AVAILABLE RECORD SHOULD ANYONE WANT IT. AND, UM, AND, AND I ASSUME THAT THE CITY SECRETARIES AUTHORIZED TO KEEP RECORDS AND CHIP BOARD, THEY'RE JUST AN ADVISORY OR THEY DON'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS. THE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE CITY. AND SO THE CHIP BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD, NOT A DECISION MAKING BOARD. YEAH, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE, THE, UH, DOCUMENTS IN PLACE CURRENTLY FOR THE POWER CENTER CREATE EXACTLY THE SAME STRUCTURE AS YOUR VENTURE BOARD. POWER CENTER BOARD MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE POWER CENTER BOARD HAS, UH, ALL THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS WE USE FOR THE TIP AND, UH, SAME ISSUES FOR THE CITY SECRETARY ASSOCIATED WITH KEEPING TRACK OF THOSE. AND IN ADDITION, UH, WE'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO PROVIDE YOU, YOU KNOW, AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT SHOWS, UH, ALL THE MEETINGS, REPORTS, EVERYTHING, JUST EXACTLY IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO IT RIGHT NOW. WHERE THOSE OF YOU BEEN ON THE TIP BOARD, WE, WE PROVIDE REPORT ON THE TIP EVERY YEAR AND WE CREATED THAT SAME REQUIREMENT IN THE POWER CENTER DOCUMENTS SO THAT THERE BE AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT, THAT WOULD HELP YOU KEEP TRACK OF WHAT THAT BOARD IS DOING. WELL, I MOVE, WE WANT MR. SHANE, COMMISSIONER ROSA COURT, IF THEY WANNA VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME. THEY TELL ME THEY MEETINGS AS WELL. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM ROSA AND COMMISSIONER SHANE TO THE CARROLL TOWER CENTER BOARD OF DIRECTOR. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. NO OPPOSED. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY, JOHN, WE MAY NEED TO, UH, AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF THERE IS SOME NEW AG OPINIONS OR SOMETHING, WE MAY NEED TO REVIEW ALL OF THOSE, OR I'VE READ YOUR RESPONSES AND I'VE ALSO READ WHAT, UH, RAY HAS FOUND OUT. I DON'T WANT TO GET CROSSROAD WITH CHUCK, BUT I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO ALSO LOOK AT TOO IS WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC, UH, EITHER BOARDS OR ACTIONS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SO THAT WE'RE NOT THINKING EVERY TIME TWO OF Y'ALL MEET FOR LUNCH, YOU, WE HAVE TO GET YOU MORE WORK. TRY KEEP YOU OUTTA, I MEAN, SHE HAS TO FILE, RIGHT? [00:40:01] YEAH. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS THE TERMINATION AGREEMENT WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF CEDAR CREEK LAKE FOR ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES. UH, I MADE YOU A, A COPY. THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM, IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION. UH, SO THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE, UH, FULLY AWARE, UH, THAT THIS WOULD BE IN THE BOOK OF PUBLIC DOMAIN, THAT OUR, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF CEDAR CREEK LAKE AS WE PROCEED 90 DAYS NOTICE. AND, UH, WE WILL CONCLUDE ON DECEMBER THE 31ST, 2013. I BE, IF YOU GO AHEAD AND READ THE REST OF THE PAPER, UH, THE REST OF THE LETTER, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, HUMANE SOCIETY, AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES HERE TODAY FROM HUMANE SOCIETY, THEY ARE WORKING ON, UH, A RESCHEDULE OF, UH, HOW MUCH THEY CHARGE THE VARIOUS GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AS WELL AS OTHER, UH, GROUPS THAT USE THEIR FACILITY. UH, SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? AND, UH, IF ANYBODY IS HERE FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY THAT WOULD LIKE, AND PEOPLE, WE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TO HAVE YOUR COMMENTS. I'M GONNA LISTEN IT TODAY. OKAY. I DID RECEIVE A CALL LAST WEEK, UH, FROM, UH, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, DONNIE SCHUBERT, AND HE'S, UH, COMING IN TO SEE, UH, ME, I BELIEVE WEDNESDAY. AND I INVITED, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, MANNING TO BE THERE SINCE HE'S AN OUR OFFICIAL, UH, YEAH. PERSON ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND HE BADLY ACCEPTED IT. SO JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF THAT. WE, I, I JUST HAD A LITTLE HEARTBURN ABOUT THIS, UH, UH, OPERATING WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT AND, UH, CHARGED ON THE COST BASIS, WHICH IS YET BE DETERMINED. UH, I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE'LL DETERMINE THAT AS WHAT A LATER DATE. WELL, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHENEVER HE'S THERE WEDNESDAY, I WOULD ASSUME THAT HE'S GONNA COME WITH JUST MORE INFORMATION, BUT UNTIL THAT IS ESTABLISHED, WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP GOING. WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE SAME AGREEMENT WE HAVE. THE SAME AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE. YEAH. OKAY. I JUST DON'T WANT, I JUST DON'T WANT IT BE OPEN-ENDED WHERE, YOU KNOW, WELL, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IF WE SEE THAT, UH, THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A VIABLE, UH, SOLUTION, WE WILL, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND SOMEPLACE TO WORK AND CARRY OUR ANIMALS. UH, BUT I'M HOPING THAT AT LEAST ON A SHORT TERM BASIS, THAT THIS WILL, THIS WILL WORK FOR US AS WE MOVE AHEAD AND, AND TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF COTTON COUNTY AS, AS FAR AS THE ANIMALS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO COLLECT AROUND ALL OF OUR COUNTY. ACTUALLY. I THINK OUR PER ANIMAL COST IS PROBABLY HIGHER THAN ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, SO DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NEW CHARGE PER ANIMAL YEAH. DEPENDING ON WHAT THE YOU AGREEMENT IS, MAY, UH, IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR US. BUT WE'LL JUST HAVE TO KIND OF FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT. AND THE HUMANE SOCIETY, I SHOULD SAY, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, UH, PARTICULARLY OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE MONTHS AS THEY GO THROUGH THE TRANSITION, NEARLY SHUTTING DOWN, THEY DID RAISE SOME ADDITIONAL, SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS, UH, OVER $25,000, WHICH HAS, UH, ALLOWED THEM TO REMAIN OPEN. I WOULD COMMEND THAT GROUP FOR KEEPING US INFORMED THROUGH ALL OF THAT. UH, WE NEED A PLACE TO CARRY THE ANIMALS THAT WE DO COLLECT FROM AROUND, UH, OUR COUNTY. UH, AND SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, I DON'T WANT, AND I DON'T THINK THEY WANT AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH COLMAN COUNTY, IT'S JUST FIGURING OUT WHAT IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR TAXPAYERS, AND ALSO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE, UH, HUMANE SOCIETY OF CEDAR CREEK. SO ANYWAY, I WANTED JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ANYTHING? ALRIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WILL ALLOW KAUFMAN COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TEXAS EFFECTIVE ABSENTEE SYSTEMS FOR ELECTIONS, UH, GRANT PROJECT. AND TANYA, I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO EXPLAIN THAT. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A GREEN DEAL FOR US. I BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED WAS ROCKWALL COUNTY DECIDED TO GET A GRANT WITH THE FEDERAL, UH, UH, UH, VOTING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. AND THEY OPENED IT UP TO ALBAN COUNTIES IN TEXAS AND SAID, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO JUMP ON BOARD WITH OUR GRANT? AND 49 OTHER COUNTIES, INCLUDING US, SAID, YES, WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT. AND IT PROVIDES US WITH A SYSTEM, A BETTER SYSTEM. UH, IT'S A TRIAL [00:45:01] RUN TO HELP OVERSEAS VOTERS HAVE AN EASIER WAY TO VOTE. RIGHT NOW, PARTICULARLY OUR UNIFORM SERVICES PEOPLE, WHEN WE SEND THEM AN ABSENTEE BALLOT, THEY HAVE TO REQUEST IT. WE SEND 'EM A BALLOT, IT'S GOTTA CATCH UP WITH 'EM. WHEREVER THEY ARE, THEY'VE GOTTA VOTE THE BALLOT, THEN IT'S GOTTA CATCH UP WITH US, HOPEFULLY IN TIME TO BE COUNTED. OKAY? SO THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. NOW, AND THIS SYSTEM IS NOT AN ONLINE VOTING SYSTEM, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT PROVIDES A WAY FOR ALL OF OUR OVERSEAS VOTERS. IF THEY ASK TO VOTE ABSENTEE FROM OVERSEAS, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO ONLINE AND DOWNLOAD A BALLOT. THEN THEY VOTED AND THEN THEY MAIL IT BACK TO US. UH, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT SHORTER PROCESS AND IT'S FULLY FUNDED BY, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE GRANT IS RUN TOTALLY THROUGH ROCKWELL COUNTY. UH, THEY'RE CALLING THEIR GRANT, UH, THAT YOUR TEXAS YOUR VOTE. AND THEY HAVE GOT 49 OTHER COUNTIES. SO 50 COUNTIES ALTOGETHER HAVE JOINED IN. AND IT IS THE LARGEST CONSORTIUM OF, UH, A GRANT THAT IN THE COUNTRY THAT TEXAS IS DOING. AND I'D LIKE FOR US TO BE A PART OF THAT. IT MAKES IT ACTUALLY A LITTLE EASIER ON US BECAUSE WE ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO REPORT, UH, EACH YEAR HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED OVERSEAS. UH, AND WE DO THAT RIGHT NOW BY OUR COMPUTERS AND HUNTING PECK AND BY HAND. AND THE SYSTEM THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US AS BEING A PART OF THIS GRANT WILL GENERATE THAT REPORT FOR US. SO IT'S A GOOD DEAL FOR US. IT'S A GOOD DEAL FOR THOSE VOTING OVERSEAS. IT COSTS KAUFMAN COUNTY NO MONEY AT ALL. THERE'S GONNA GIVE US A PROGRAM THAT WE CAN USE, UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT ALL BE REQUIRED IS THE COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE THE OKAY TO LET THE JUDGE SIGN THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH ROCK COUNTY FOR THIS GRANT QUESTION SO FAR, ELECTIONS OFFICER, I LIKE ALL BECAUSE IT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY. AND THAT'S ONE ISSUE SITTING ON THE BALLOT BOARD AS MANY YEARS AS I'VE HAD THAT, THAT OUR MILITARY VOTE A LOT OF TIMES DID GET COUNTED. AND, AND THESE YOUNG MEN, WE SURE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR VOTE COUNTED. THAT'S RIGHT. SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH ROCKWALL COUNTY. SECOND, UH, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A, THOSE POSTS, THANK YOU, TANYA. THANK YOU. WORKING THROUGH THIS PART. UH, ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER PATILLO BROWN AND HILL LB TO PERFORM THE OUTSIDE AUDIT. UH, THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR OF AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE EXISTING AUDIT FIRM. UH, UH, DOES THE AUDITOR OR PERSON, AGENT HAVE ANY, ANY COMMENTS, UH, CONCERNING ANYTHING? I THINK WE'VE BEEN PLEASED WITH THE WORK THEY'VE DONE. I, I WISH THEY'D PUT US A LITTLE HIGHER IN THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE MADE THAT DONE TO THEM. I PLEASED. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE AS LONG AS GETTING OUR AUDITOR FOR HIM. BUT THEY HAVE CERTAINLY, UH, BEEN A GOOD GROUP TO WORK WITH AND IT HELPED US, UH, WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES WE FACED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. SO IS THAT OUR RECOMMENDATION? UH, FROM WE HAVE A THREE, THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO ADDITIONAL. SO THIS IS THE LAST YEAR OF THE, SO IT FOR THREE YEARS WITH TWO ADDITIONAL YEARS. SO IT COULD BE FIVE YEAR RIGHT. YEARS. GOOD. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. OKAY. ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS FAR AS I BELIEVE OTHER HERE IS THE BUDGET. YES, SIR. I THINK IT WAS 38 5. 38 5 IN THE BUDGET. 36. IS THERE NOT RIGHT? NOT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. COMMISSIONER MAKES THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND, SECOND. MR. MANNING SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING AND IN THE LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENSE OFFICE FOR CAPITAL MURDER CASES. UH, OF COURSE, UH, AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, THIS IS A GROUP THAT WE, UH, UH, SIGNED ON WITH LAST, UH, SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE. AND, UH, REGRETFULLY, UH, THE, JUST A FEW MONTHS WE BECAME ONE OF THEIR CLIENTS AND, UH, WE WERE ALREADY A CLIENT, I GUESS, BUT WE BECAME ONE OF THEIR, UH, COUNTIES THAT THEY WERE HELPING REPRESENT. UH, THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR OF THAT AGREEMENT. IF YOU REMEMBER, THE FIRST YEAR WAS FREE. AND, UH, I FOUND IT INTERESTING. YOU MIGHT LOOK ON THE, UH, [00:50:01] BAG, UH, TWO OR THREE PAGES OF THIS AGREEMENT. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS COUNTIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING. AND, UH, OUR FIRST YEAR COST, IF YOU REMEMBER ZERO, AND THEN THE FUNDING YEAR, UH, 14. UH, IT'LL BE 32, 8 77. I THOUGHT IT WAS 39 EXTRA IN THERE. BUT, UH, AND I THINK THAT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF COUNTIES THAT THEY HAVE SIGNED UP. YOU KNOW, THE MORE COUNTIES THAT PARTICIPATE RIGHT. THE BETTER OFF WE ARE FOR EVERYONE I PUT IN THERE JUST IN CASE, UH, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE 2018 THAT THEY COME UP WITH A NEW ASSESSMENT OR, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER EXACTLY I, WHETHER ANYBODY REMEMBERS THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT'S DEPENDING ON WHAT AMOUNT OF FUNDS THEY HAVE TO LABELED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN. UH, AND IT MAY BE THAT A FEE WOULD BE USED OR, UH, THERE ARE COUNTIES THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS. IT STARTED OUT IN WEST TEXAS. 11, I DON'T REMEMBER. MAY HAVE THEIR FEE, THEIR FEE AFTER THEY'VE BEEN A MEMBER FOR SO MANY YEARS USED BY GRADE OR NOT PAYING ANYTHING. I THINK IT WORKS PRETTY MUCH LIKE OUR INSURANCE THAT SITS IN THE POOL. IT'S A POOL COST. SO THERE'S A LOT NUMBER OF EXPENSES THAT THE PRICE GOES UP. THERE'S NOT THAT MANY EXPENSES IN THE PRICE DOWN. IT'S A SHARED RISK. I'LL TELL YOU THIS, THE CONFERENCE THAT WE ENDED LAST WEEK, I HAD SEVERAL OF THE COUNTY JUDGES TELL ME THAT BECAUSE OF, UH, THE ENFORCEMENT SERIES OF EVENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR COUNTY, THEY'RE GOING BACK AND RELOOKING AT THIS. THEY INITIALLY DECIDED NOT TO PARTICIPATE. AND BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE, IT WAS KIND OF A WAKE UP CALL. SO MANY OF THEM ARE JOINING UP OR PLANNING ON GOING THIS YEAR. SO, UH, THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY LOWER THE COST. YEAH, I WOULD HOPE SO. MORE MORE COUNTIES PARTICIPATE. I JUST WONDER WHY THIS IS BASED ON, ON THE OH EIGHT POPULATION ESTIMATE. UH, CAUSE I THOUGHT I ASK THAT QUESTION, BUT I'VE SLEPT SINCE THEN. I DON'T REMEMBER. THAT PROBABLY WORKS BEEN, BUT IS THAT WHEN THIS WAS STARTED? WAS IT IN OH EIGHT? NO, IT WAS STARTED. UH, SEE THIS PRIMARY, WELL, I I THINK IT'S BEEN AROUND, WELL MAYBE NOT GRADE YEAR. I'M THINKING MAYBE AROUND AROUND SEVEN EIGHT. THAT'S FIVE YEARS THEY STARTED OUT THERE IN WEST TEXAS. YEAH. AND IT'S BEEN, THE WHOLE IDEA WAS GET LITTLE BIT COUNTIES THAT HAVE A VERY SMALL BUDGET TO HAVE CAPITAL WORK CASE WITH . SO I SAY THEY SPREAD THE RISK AROUND AND IT WORKS FOR GREAT OUT THERE. IT'S GOING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE STATE. IT'S AN INSURANCE POLICY. IT'S, THEY CALL IT MURDER INSURANCE AND THAT'S NOT A VERY NICE NAME, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT, WHAT IT DOES. COUNSEL, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, I, I, I THINK, UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. IT'S, UM, SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO USE AND GIVEN THE, UH, CASE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF IN THE TYPICAL, UM, APPEAL THAT MAY HAPPEN IN A DEATH CRIMINAL CASE, THAT MAY PROCEED FOR FIVE TO 10 YEARS, WE'LL BE TAPPING INTO THIS, ASSUMING THAT THE STATE PREVAILS. I, WE APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENDER. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 15 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AWARDING BID 13 DASH OH FIVE USED SKIDS LOADER, UH, FOR PRECINCT ONE. UH, JACK. GOOD MORNING. BILL. WE RECEIVED, UH, THREE BIDS. WE HAVE ONE BID FROM RDO EQUIPMENT, UH, 55,001 24.3 HOLE. WE HAD A BID FROM ASSOCIATED SUPPLY, UH, 68,500. AND WE HAD A BID FROM, UH, HOPE CAT, WHICH, UH, I CONSIDER BEING NONRESPONSIVE. UH, THEY DID NOT FILL OUT OR ATTACHED OR SIGN ANY KIND OF BID DOCUMENT. UH, THE PRICE IS PICKING 3000 5 0 4 AND THEY'RE BASICALLY GOT OFF THE FIVE CONTRACT. THAT IS HOWEVER, A SMALLER MACHINE IS UP, MR. ROSA, I THINK IT'S A SMALLER MACHINE ANYWAY, UH, SO THE CREW ACTUALLY LOW BID, UH, FOR THAT, UH, SKID LOADER IS, IS A DIFF RD EQUIPMENT, UH, 55,000 [00:55:01] 1 24 3, ALONG WITH THE COMMISSIONER. I, I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. I HAVE, I HAVE MONEY IN MY BUDGET FOR THAT. IT IS EXTENDED, UH, WARRANTY ON. SO THIS IS VERY WELL OUR MACHINE AND I, I'M HAPPY WITH, OKAY, I'M PUT THAT FORM THE MOTION. HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA. WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER. UH, ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH EVERBRIDGE MASS NOTIFICATION SYSTEM OR AN EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM UTILIZING THE US COMMUNITIES GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENT ALLIANCE CONTRACT. JUDGE, THIS CONTRACT IS FOR, UH, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A, UH, A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH A COUPLE OF, UH, RENEWALS, UH, PRICE OF $27,000 PER YEAR. AND THAT IS ON A US COMMUNITY'S CO-OP. SO THEREFORE WE DON'T HAVE TO BID ANYTHING OUT. UH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I, I'LL DEFER TO STEVE WHO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, CONTACT CONTRACT, WHAT THAT DOES. AS YOU RECALL, WHILE STEVE COMING UP, WE DID DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT DURING OUR BUDGET SESSIONS THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND MONEY IS BUDGETED. AND STEVE, I GUESS THE QUESTION I WOULD'VE IS I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE CITY WERE LOOKING AT PARTICIPATING WITH US. YES, SIR. YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT RIGHT NOW. CITY OF IS READY TO GO WITH US. UH, MAYBANK HAS SAID THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF IT. UH, KEMP AND, UH, COMBINE ARE STILL THINKING ABOUT IT AND I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM COFFMAN. UH, NIE SAID NO. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. AND THOSE ARE THE CITIES THAT WOULD REALLY HAVE A USE FOR THE, THE FULL SYSTEM. OKAY. AND THEY WILL, IF THOSE COMMUNITIES, UH, THOSE CITIES IN OUR COUNTY, THEY WILL HAVE PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE COST OF YES. OKAY. AND WE, WE PRORATED IT OUT BASED UPON THEIR POPULATION. OKAY. SO HOW WILL ASSISTANCE BE NOTIFIED THROUGH THE SYSTEM? THEY'LL BE NOTIFIED BY TEXT MESSAGE, EMAIL, AND TELEPHONE. UH, THEY'LL ALWAYS GET THE TEXT MESSAGE FIRST BECAUSE THAT IS THE FASTEST AND QUICKEST WAY TO GET MESSAGES OUT TO PEOPLE. UH, THE REST OF IT, UH, WILL HAVE TO BE DEPENDENT UPON THEM. THEY'LL HAVE TO ENTER THEIR CELL PHONES AND THEY CAN CHOOSE WHAT, WHAT THEY GET OTHER THAN EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE IT COMES IN AS A BENEFIT TO THE CITIES BECAUSE THEY CAN DO WATER OUTAGES OR ROAD CLOSURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE NON-EMERGENCY. BUT THE CITIZENS CAN CHOOSE WHAT THEY GET IN THE NON-EMERGENCY CATEGORY AND WHAT THEY DO WANT TO GET. SO, SO IS THERE GONNA BE A SIGNUP PROGRAM FOR THE CITIZENS? YES SIR. WE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AND PROGRAM TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP. IT'S ALSO GONNA BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE CAN GET ALL OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES ON THERE AND IF WE HAVE A BAD WEATHER DAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE WINTER WHERE WE HAVE TO CLOSE VERY SIMPLE TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY, WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, CALLING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO CALL SOMEBODY ELSE AND SO FORTH. AND MAYBE SOMEBODY MISSES THIS WAY WE CAN GET EVERYBODY. UH, WE CAN ALSO PUSH IT OUT TO CERTAIN, TO THE DEPARTMENTS IF THEY NEED, UH, TO BE ABLE TO NOTIFY THEIR OWN DEPARTMENTS OR SOMETHING. UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAS IT AND SET UP AND WE HAVE A BAD STORM. YOU NEED ROADS. YOU CAN USE IT FOR YOUR ROAD BRIDGE CREW TO NOTIFY THEM ALL AT ONCE TO TO RESPOND TO, TO THE BARN TO START FAIRY ROAD. I DON'T THINK OUR COUNTY BONES ARE TEXT MESSAGE RECEIVABLE. UH, MOST ARE BRAND NEW PHONES WE HAVE ARE ALMOST NON-FUNCTIONAL. WE'VE GOT THREE RIGHT NOW WITH SCREEN REPLACED. UH, JUST CURIOUS, I WONDERED MOST FOLKS WHO USE THE SEG DATABASE AS BASE DATA, DOES THIS DO THAT? YOU'RE WAY ABOVE ME, GEORGE. WELL TYPICALLY FOR A PHONE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM, YOU TAKE ALL THE DATA THAT THE COG AND 9 1 1 KNOWS ABOUT CALLED THE SEG DATABASE AND YOU, THAT BECOMES YOUR BASE STARTING DATABASE OF [01:00:01] WHO TO NOTIFY IS DOES ZIP WORK THAT, IS THAT THE 9 1 1 DATABASE? THE SEG? YEAH, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN EITHER UTILIZE THAT OR WE CAN USE THE PUBLIC RECORDS SIDE. SEE, THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF FOLKS MIGHT NOT SIGN UP, MIGHT NOT KNOW TO SIGN UP, BUT IF WE USE THE SEG DATABASE AS OUR BASE OR OUR STARTING POINT, AT LEAST I THINK WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL. WE WE CAN USE THAT. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE JUST NEED TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO THEM TO LOAD INTO THE SYSTEM THAT'LL DO THAT FOR MM-HMM SO DEPENDENT ON PEOPLE SIGNING UP YARD BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN. GO AHEAD. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON PEOPLE SIGNING UP FOR IT, NOT THE WHOLE THING. IF YOU WANT YOUR CELL PHONE ON THERE, YOU WILL. SO THAT WE CAN TAKE EITHER THE, THE 9 1 1 DATABASE OR THE WHITE PAGE PUBLIC ACCESS DATABASE AND LOAD IT INTO THE SYSTEM FOR THE FOUNDATION, WHICH YOUR, YOUR LANDLINE TYPE PHONES. SO WE, WE WILL HAVE THAT LOADED INTO THE SYSTEM. BUT AS FAR AS THE REST OF IT, YOU KNOW, CELL PHONES, THERE'S NOT A DATABASE THAT WE CAN DRAW UPON. SO THAT PART PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO DO THEMSELVES, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO A REALLY STRONG CAMPAIGN TO, TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF THROUGHOUT COUNTY. THE ISSUE WITH OUR COUNTY CALLS, IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, WE CAN, I'M I'M SURE WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. WE CAN. I WAS LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WE HAD, YEARS AGO WE HAD UH, A NONRECURRING CHARGE AND DECISION MADE BUY SOME LIVE THAT. YEAH. SO, AND WHEN WE DID THAT, WE BOUGHT AT KIND OF A MINIMAL, UH, TECHNOLOGY THAT GETS LEVEL AND KIND OF A QUEST UPGRADE. YOU WANT GO THAT AFFECTS THE PRICE. BUT THERE AGAIN THAT, SO THE TECHNOLOGY C WOULDN'T HURT TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT ROT BRIDGE EMPLOYEES AND ROT BRIDGE COMMERS CAN TEXT. AND THAT MAY BE, THAT MAY NOT BE A FAIR ASSUMPTION. I WASN'T, I'M TALKING ABOUT MYSELF. UH, GEORGE SIR. UH, LEMME ADD, BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE 9 1 1 SYSTEM OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, LIKE ONE MORNING ABOUT ONE 30, I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM AN AMBER ALERT IN TOM GREEN COUNTY, WHICH IS SAN ANGELO. AND YOU KNOW, I'M A PRETTY SOUND SLEEPER, BUT IT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. I'M CERTAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT ANY AMBER ALERT AT ANYTIME TO GET OR SENIOR CITIZEN ALERT OR . BUT I FOUND IT STRANGE THAT IT WOULD COME IN AT ONE 30 IN THE MORNING. IS IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WOULD, WOULD WE UH, NO, THAT, NO, WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE, I'VE HAD TWO OF THOSE ABOUT THE WAY, NOT ONE FROM TO GREEN COUNTY. IT DEPENDS ON YOUR SERVICE. FOR EXAMPLE, SPRINT, YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE TO IT OR NOT SUBSCRIBE TO IT. IT DEPENDS ON WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU NEGOTIATED YOUR AGREEMENT WITH YOUR PROVIDER T, VERIZON OR WHOEVER. BUT WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS USING, THERE'S A DATABASE THAT WE KNOW ABOUT IS ALL THE PHONE, ALL THE PHONE NUMBERS WERE COUNTED AND THAT THAT, NOT CELL PHONES BUT REGULAR PHONES, THAT'S BACK WHEN WE HAD THE CODE RED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE BASE FILE. SO WHEN WE HAD AN EMERGENCY OR A TORNADO, WE WOULD CALL US AUTOMATICALLY. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, GET FOLKS TO SIGN UP WITH CELL PHONE AND WHATEVER. UH, BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT, MAKE SURE THE, THE AMBER ALERT IS PART OF THE UH, WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM. UH, AND IF YOU GO INTO YOUR SETTINGS ON YOUR PHONE, YOU CAN TURN THAT ALSO THEN WAIT UP. I HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN. I NEED TO SHOW YOU THERE'S A, IT AUTOMATICALLY COMES ON YOUR PHONE, BUT THEN YOU CAN GO BACK AND TURN IT OFF. YOU DON'T MINDING ONE 30. YEAH, IT KIND OF A STRANGE TOO WAKE IT'S JUST THAN JUST THE DIFFERENT IT'S COST COUNTY. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S A FEDERAL DEAL AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT TO, WELL THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT WHEN THE GOVERNMENT GOES BACK TO WORK TO NARROW THAT DOWN TO THE COUNTIES THAT YOU'RE IN. WHAT ABOUT IN THE CITY OF PONY? UH, THEY, I THINK THEY ALL ALREADY HAVE THEIR OWN SYSTEM. YES SIR. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WILL OUR ALERT, UH, ANY ALERT THAT WE HAVE COUNTYWIDE, WOULD IT STILL GO TO THE PEOPLE IN PONY? WE'LL LOCK, LOCK THE CITY LIMITS OF PONY OUT OF OUR SYSTEM. OKAY. BUT IF WE RUN USE THE SEG DATA, IT IS GONNA GO COUNTYWIDE. WE HAVE THE ABILITY IN THIS SYSTEM TO TO SELECT CERTAIN CA AREAS OR TO LOCK OUT CERTAIN AREAS WHY WE WANT DO THAT. BUT WHY WOULD YOU LOCK 'EM OUT? [01:05:01] WELL, IF FORNEY HAS THEIR OWN SYSTEM AND DOESN'T WANT US TO DUPLICATE IT, THEN YOU WOULD LOCK THEM OUT BECAUSE, AND THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE MAY NEED TO HAVE WITH THE CITY OF FLORIDA. OF COURSE. BUT I DUNNO, DO YOU WANNA NOTIFY PEOPLE WISE ABOUT THE SAME? IT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN, WE CAN CHANGE IT HOWEVER WE WANT TO. AND I'M SAYING LOCK 'EM OUT BECAUSE PO DID NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SYSTEM AND I DIDN'T WANT TO DUPLICATE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY PO GETTING TO NOTIFICATION. SO DUPLICATION OF A NOTIFICATION OF A, AN EMERGENCY IS GOING TO BOTHER ANYBODY. COME AND CALL ME TWICE, PLEASE. THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO TALK FOR ABOUT. AND I'M CERTAINLY UP FOR DOING THAT. UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONVINCE THEM TO GET ON BOARD WITH IT AND SAVE THEM SOME MONEY AND US SOME MORE MONEY. SO, UH, SIR, DO YOU HAVE REFERENCES ON THIS COMPANY? WE DID THIS BEFORE, TABLE ONE. I ACTUALLY STARTED ON THIS IN JANUARY OF 2012. IT WASN'T FUNDED IN OUR LAST BUDGET. AND AFTER LOOKING AT 12 DIFFERENT COMPANIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, THIS ONE WAS BY FAR THE BEST. AND I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION. AND A FEW WEEKS AGO THEY SENT OUT A NOTICE IN CONNECTICUT USING THIS SYSTEM TO 41,000 PEOPLE AND IT'LL REACH THEM IN LESS THAN THREE MINUTES. AND THAT TO ME SAYS, SAYS WHAT? THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT ITSELF BOUGHT THIS SYSTEM. IT HAS PUSHED IT OUT TO THE COUNTIES AND ITS CITY STATEWIDE. UH, AND I'VE LOOKED AT THEIR REFERENCES, I'VE LOOKED AT EVERY PLACE THAT THEY'VE USED THIS PRODUCT AND NOBODY HAS ANYTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT IT, BUT THE 27,000 INCLUDES EVERY TELEPHONE IN CO COUNTY. I DON'T THINK WE ALL LOCK ANYBODY OUT THERE. WELL, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DO, I JUST WONDERED ABOUT IF RAY LIKES TWO PHONE CALLS. I WOULD, YEAH. I MEAN, I'M, MOST PEOPLE DO IT IN THIS LAST PAGE HERE, IT SAYS CONTACTS UP TO 45,000. SO IF, IF YOU GO OVER 45,000, WOULD THERE BE AN ADDITIONAL, THERE'S A, THERE'S A BUFFER IN THERE THAT, UH, THIS, THEY SAID THAT THIS PRICE WILL BE GOOD FOR, FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS BASED UPON THE POPULATION. UH, WHEN WE DO THIS, WHICH IS ABOUT 105,000 NOW, I BELIEVE. BUT IT IS GOT A BUFFER IN THERE. AND, UH, WE ACTUALLY EVEN TALKED ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN THE COMBINE AREA THAT ACTUALLY IN DALLAS COUNTY, AND THEY SAID THAT WE COULD INCLUDE THEM SINCE THE MAJORITY OF COINE IS IN COFFMAN. SO THEY HAVE 45,000 HOUSEHOLDS. YES, SIR. NOT, NOT PEOPLE, NOT PEOPLE IN HOUSEHOLD HOUSEHOLDS. HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS DID WE HAVE? I KATHY LEFT APPRAISAL DISTRICT WILL, WOULD'VE THAT INFORMATION ASSUME, OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT A NURSING. WELL, AND I, I THINK WHAT, UH, SAID, I KNOW THIS WAS TRIED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND IT DIDN'T WORK FOR WHATEVER REASON BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, I BELIEVE. WELL, THEY USED CODE RED, WHICH, UH, LOOKING AT THEIR STUFF, CHERYL HAS BEEN USING IT FOR LAST SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS. AND IT WAS TAKING, UH, CHIEF HARPER, YOU KNOW, HARPER, THE FIRE CHIEF THERE. IT TOOK, UH, OVER AN HOUR FOR IT TO GET TO HIS DAD'S HOUSE, AND THEY SENT OUT AN ALERT. SO THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE IF YOU GOT A TORNADO BEARING DOWN, YOU DON'T WANT IT TAKE AN HOUR. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT IT. TAKE 10 MINUTES. YOU WANT IT OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, IN TWO OR THREE MINUTES IF YOU CAN. SO TWO, TWO MORE QUESTIONS. ONE, UH, WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTIVATING THE ALERT? WILL THAT BE YOUR OFFICE, THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT? OR HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? UH, NORMALLY IT WOULD BE MY OFFICE THAT INITIATES A CALL THAT THE SHERIFF WANTS TO INCORPORATE THE DISPATCH INTO THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT SOMEBODY SAID IN THE PAST THAT THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW. WE, WE DID IT WITH ANY TIME THAT, UH, OKAY, WE GOT A REGIONAL WARNING OR SOMETHING. WE USED TO PUT THAT OUT. OKAY. SO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK TO. I DON'T SEE A PROMISE. SO, AND, AND THAT'S COMMUNICATE. YEAH, THAT'S THE DISCUSSION. I KNOW THAT CAN TELL, BUT IF YOU'RE [01:10:01] OUT OF TOWN OR, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. ONE, THE OTHER ADVANTAGES THIS SYSTEM IS IF I'M ANYWHERE IN, IN THE, IN THE WORLD, I CAN SET IT OFF FROM MY IPHONE. IT'S GOT THAT ABILITY. NOW, I WOULD PREFER IF I'M ON VACATION IN, YOU KNOW, THE VIRGIN ISLANDS THAT BRIAN OR SOMEBODY IN HIS OFFICE TAKING CARE OF THAT. SO I CONTINUE BEACH. YOU ARE HERE WHEN YOU'RE SLEEPER . YEAH. HOW SOUND SLEEPER ARE YOU IF STORMS ARE COMING IN? I'M AWAKE. I GET, I GET NOTIFIED DIRECTLY FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BEFORE STUFF EVEN GETS HERE AND I'M USUALLY AWAKE. SO, WELL, FOR ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES WE'LL HAVE WITH THE DISPATCH CENTER AND THE POC BEING, THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL MAKE IT RIGHT THERE. BUT I SUGGEST AS A STANDBY USE COMMISSIONER CLARK PAYBACK. THE OTHER THING I WOULD, UH, HOPE THAT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO OR ASK YOU TO DO IS WHEN YOU DEAL WITH THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES LIKE CAROL AND NEY, CAMP AND CRANFORD, AND ALL THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES WE HAVE AROUND KAMAN THAT INVOLVE THE COMMISSIONERS IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS SO THEY CAN HELP WORK THROUGH THE ISSUES THAT, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF US TRYING TO WORK WITH OUR, ALL OF OUR COUNTY, ALL OF OUR CITIES, ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND CERTAIN FOLKS THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN MOORE, OKLAHOMA LAST YEAR AND WE, WE, WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN FORNEY TEXAS TWO YEARS AGO, I GUESS NOW LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR WAS THE LAST YEAR, WELL ACTUALLY THE LAST TWO YEARS. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, IN TODAY'S MODERN WORLD OF COMMUNICATION, WE, WE NEED TO ALL USE THE TECHNIQUES THAT WE HAVE OR THE ABILITIES THAT WE HAVE. BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, ADVANTAGEOUS TO HAVE COMMISSIONERS INVOLVED WITH ALL OF THOSE. ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THE SYSTEM IS IT ALSO HAS A CONFERENCE BRIDGE AS PART OF ITS, UH, FUNCTIONS. BUT THE 96 PEOPLE COULD BE ON THE CONFERENCE CALL UTILIZING THIS SYSTEM. SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE BESIDES ME DO A LOT OF CONFERENCE CALLS, BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY WITH THIS TO ALSO DO AN IN-HOUSE CONFERENCE CALL IF WE NEED TO. OKAY. GOOD. JACK, YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO WRAP ? I'M GOOD JUDGE. OKAY. FURTHER, I'LL MAKE MOTION. COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES A MOTION TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT WITH AIR BRIDGE MASS COMMUNICATION NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. HAVE SECOND, SECOND, COMMISSIONER MANDY SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A THOSE ITEM NUMBER 17. WE'RE GONNA TO A BREAK HERE JUST IN A MINUTE. JUDGE, ITEM NUMBER 17, ALSO TO, UH, HEAR A REPORT FROM JACK ON OUR REACH OUT FOR SEPTEMBER 20 13TH ONLINE AUCTION. JIM, I THINK YOU GOT A COPY OF THAT. RECAP. THE, UH, SALE 79,002 NINE. AND THAT'S LAST TAKE COMMISSION OFF THE CHECK. COLMAN COUNTY WAS FOR 70 3007. 23 3. AND UH, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN A, I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, LISA CALLAHAN AND NICK MORTON FOR THEIR, THEIR WORK. UH, UH, WELL THEY WENT THROUGH AN OLD TRAILER OR SOMETHING AND FOUND ALL KINDS OF GOODIES. I THINK WE DID. I MEAN, OR THEY DID. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ALSO WANT THANK, UH, PAUL AND BOBBY, UH, FOR HELPING, UH, MOVE STUFF AROUND, ALLOWING THE, UH, BUYERS TO GET THEIR STUFF. I KNOW STEVE BOWIE HELPED SOME, UH, LARRY ING ACTUALLY HELPED, UH, GET A, UH, VEHICLE ON TOP OF A DOUBLE STACK TYPE CAR HAUL HAULER. UH, BUT I WOULD ASK FOR A FUTURE THAT MAYBE TRY TO GIVE SOME COMMISSION TO GET SOME HELP ON THIS KIND OF STUFF. UH, UH, THE LADIES ACTUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO RUN THE OFFICE AND DO ALL THE THING WE NEED TO DO, BUT, UH, THEY'RE PHYSICALLY UNLOADED THE TRAILER AND, UH, SEPARATE ALL THE ITEMS. WE HAD A TRAILER WITH CONTENTS AND THEY TOOK THOSE ITEMS OUT AND, AND PUT 'EM IN DIFFERENT, UH, UH, GROUPS BROUGHT OVER JUST BY TAKING TIME TO DO THAT. SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO BE DONE, UH, ON THAT. I KNOW THEY, WE UH, THEY BOOST OFF SOME VEHICLES WITH THEIR OWN CARS. UH, WE GRAB CARS OUT QUITE QUITE A, A OPERATION FOR A STAFF HANDLE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK USED TO AGO, SOME [01:15:02] IN THE FUTURE, JUST GIVE A CALL SINCE WE HERE, WE'LL, PRECINCT ONE, BE HAPPY. WHAT TO DO IS MAYBE SET UP SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE TELL THESE VENDORS, THEY'VE GOT BUYER, THEY HAVE THESE DAYS PICK STUFF UP AND THAT THEY NEED TO COME PREPARED TO HANDLE OUR STUFF AND THAT, THAT HAPPENS. SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, BACK IN, BACK IN THE DAY, WE WOULD PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT WE'VE GOT HELP THREE OR FOUR DAYS A WEEK. AND I THINK WE JUST KIND OF SPLIT UP. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M, I'M REAL THE WAY WENT. YEAH, I THINK INITIALLY YOU WEREN'T EXPECTING ANYWHERE NEAR THIS. IT, THIS WAS A UNIQUE OPTION. A LOT DID CLEANED UP A LOT OF STUFF. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR ONE VEHICLES. I KNOW CLASSIFIED AS JUNK KIND OF HARD OWNERS THERE, BUT IT DID WELL. I'M REAL PLEASED. THEY ALL GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I DON'T THINK THIS REQUIRES ANY ACTION. IT'S JUST TO REPORT ON JACK'S, UH, PART. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER, UH, 18, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER A BID AWARD, BID NUMBER 13 DASH OH FOUR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR ROADSIDE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT SERVICES. OKAY. I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT. UH, UH, BID WE RECEIVED ONE BID, UH, AND THAT WAS FROM ROADSIDE INCORPORATE ON THE 200 MILES ESTIMATE. UH, CONTRACTORS SUPPLY HERBICIDES, THE COST PER MILE WAS $80, UH, 400 MILES WITH THE CONTRACTORS SUPPLY HERBICIDE WAS $70 THE PER ACRE BRIDGE. THREE, THEN YOU SEE THE, UH, AT, UH, 300 MILES OF LEAD AND THEN, UH, HUNDRED SUPPLY CHEMICALS OR HUNDRED PIECE. AND THEN COST PER ACRE FOR BRUSH WAS, UH, ONE 40 WITH A CONTRACTOR FURNISH, HERBICIDE. UH, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER DONE SOME RESEARCH AND THESE FOLKS, YES, WE ACTUALLY VISITED OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE BEEN USING THIS AND THEY'RE VERY PLEASED. I MEAN, IT LOWERS YOUR COST TO ABOUT 10% THE COST ACTUALLY, AND EVEN LESS IN SOME CASES. AND THEY'RE VERY HAPPY AS NEEDED BASIS. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER TO APPROVE THIS, UH, CONTRACT. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER SHANE. SECONDS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? IT'S, IT'S LEFT UP TO EACH COMMISSIONER ON HOW MUCH LEVEL. YOU EITHER NOT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED. LET'S TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. I CAN HEAR YOU TAPPING. CAN YOU HEAR THAT? I CAN'T. ALL ITEM NUMBER 19 WILL CALL COURT BACK THE ORDER AND THE ORDER NUMBER 19 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER LINE OF TRANSFERS. ALRIGHT. THE ONLY, UH, TWO I HAVE IS BUDGET AMENDMENTS. UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFER TO 2013 ARE ON HOLD UNTIL I FINISH GETTING EVERYTHING POSTED OVER. AND THEN I'M GONNA DO THIS ONE BIG TRANSFER AND GET IT DONE. FIGURED THAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR EVERYBODY. THAT MAKES, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. UH, ONE OF THESE, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS IS FOR A, UH, UH, GRANT FOR, UH, 14,587 SOME EQUIPMENT AND STUFF THAT THEY NEED. THE OTHER ONE IS THE, WHAT DEPARTMENT IS THAT IN? UH, 1 26. UM, IT'S, UH, A DJ BX. IT'S THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE? YES. SHERIFF'S OFFICE GRANT. AND UH, WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE, I THINK IT WAS THE, UH, VEST OR SOMETHING? UH, NO, THIS, NO, THAT ONE IS, UH, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THAT'S OKAY. A JAG GRANT. THAT'S DIFFERENT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT WILL BE IN THE, UH, FEDERAL ASSET FORFEITURE FUND. UH, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS ONE WAS FOR? OKAY, DADDY, I'M LOOKING AT MY EMAIL RIGHT NOW. OKAY. EXACTLY WHAT IT'S, [01:20:04] IT'S FOR THE PERSON FOR CONSTABLE, ISN'T IT? NO SIR. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM. I THINK THE NEXT ONE DOES. YES. CAN'T REMEMBER. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT. I REMEMBER HAVE ONE. YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND TELL US ABOUT THE NEXT ONE WHILE THEY LOOKING? YEAH. 1 25 IS THE INITIAL ENFORCEMENT GRANT. THAT'S FOR PRECINCT FOUR. UM, THIS IS THE GRANT THAT, UM, IS FOR YOUR EMISSIONS OFFICER THAT, UH, WILL REIMBURSE, UH, HIS SALARY FRINGES, THE SUPPLIES, HIS PARTS REPAIRS, GAS OIL, HIS TRAINING, HIS INSURANCE UNIFORMS, AND HIS EQUIPMENT THAT HE NEEDS. THE TOTAL GRANT IS FOR, UH, 78,000 965 50. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON A SECOND SET OF GRANTS FOR HIM FOR SOME ADDITIONAL STUFF, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YET TO COME BACK AND GET THAT DONE FOR. ALRIGHT. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION AND I, I GUESS I MISUNDERSTOOD WHILE AGO. AND THE UPPER LEFT HAND COLUMN, IT SAYS IN THE MATTER OF AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE 2014 FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS OUR NEW GRANT. I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO REIMBURSE THIS PART LAST YEAR, UH, FOR HIS SALARY. BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE DIDN'T GET ALL THE PAPERWORK TO FINALIZE IT FOR 2013. THEY SENT US TWO CHECKS AND WE WERE HOLDING IT FOR THE PAPERWORK. WE HADN'T GOTTEN THAT PAPERWORK. SO WE SET IT UP FOR 2014 BUDGET. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE BUDGET TO APPROVE. OKAY. WAS THIS, IS THIS IN OUR CURRENT, IN OUR NEW BUDGET? YES, SIR. OKAY. WELL FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT, I GUESS I JUST HAD IT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND THAT IT WENT BACK RETROACTIVE. THAT THEY WERE GONNA LET US CHARGE IT BACK. BUT I GUESS BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED 2013 CALENDAR YEAR BUDGET. BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING TO SET IT UP FOR HIM, IT COULDN'T GO INTO 2013. WE PUT IT IN 2014. IT'S STILL A 2013 BUDGET, BUT HE'S GONNA BE OPERATING IN 14 OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. USE THIS. SO, UH, IN FACT HE HAD SOME OF THE LAPTOP AND, UH, TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT THAT HE WAS READY TO ORDER, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LINE ITEMS OR THE INFORMATION TO ACTUALLY FUND IT FOR HIM. SO WE WAITED FOR THE NEW BUDGET. WELL, I WAS HOPING THAT ASSISTED US FROM OUR LAST YEAR BUDGET, BUT IT WOULDN'T HELP LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE GRANTS HAVE TO BE IN THEIR OWN SEPARATE FUND. NOW WE ARE GONNA HAVE A TRANSFER THAT'S GONNA REPAY PART OF HIS SALARY BENEFITS THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR 14. YES SIR. OKAY. BUT NOT FOR 13. NO. I'LL HAVE TO, I'LL GET WITH PAM AND MAKE SURE, AND IF IT IS FOR 13, WE'LL MAKE THOSE INTEREST RIGHT BACK. THAT'S WHERE I'M THINKING I'VE GOT, YEAH. UH, FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, CONFUSION, , THIS IS THIS, THIS HAPPENED REALLY WEIRD THE WAY IT HAPPENED. WE, WE, YOU KNOW, THEY WORKED ON IT, KEPT ADDING THINGS TO IT. THEY SENT IT BACK 'CAUSE THEY WANTED SOME OTHER THINGS CLARIFIED AND WE KEPT THINKING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GET THIS AND WE'RE GONNA USE IT IN 2013. AND WE DIDN'T GET ALL OF IT. BUT WHAT THE, UNTIL PAM GOT THROUGH WITH IT, SHE DIDN'T GET THE FINAL APPROVAL THAT YEAH. WE HAD EVERY LINE ITEM LIKE THEY WANTED AND AGREED TO, BUT THEY SENT US THE CHECK. SO MONEY MONEY'S ALREADY SITTING THERE. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO FIX, I KNOW WE APPROVED THIS DURING THE LAST BUDGET YEAR MM-HMM . AND THEN WE, THEY GAVE US THAT ADDITIONAL 20,000 I THINK. RIGHT. AND THEN WE APPROVED THAT SEPARATELY. SO I JUST MAKE IT MY MISUNDERSTOOD. YEAH. I'LL GET WITH PEN AND MAKE SURE. OKAY. OKAY. WHAT IS THE 26TH FOR? IT IS, UM, IT IS A JACK GRANT BUT IT'S NOT THE BULLETPROOF VEST ONES. IT IS, UH, FOR A TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE. OKAY. TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE. AND IT'S FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE? YES. YES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO BE SUSPEND? IT IS, UH, TO DO WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEIR TECHNOLOGY PART. AND IT'S SOME HANDHELD RADIOS OR SOMETHING? YES. JACK, YOU THE ONE THAT I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. THE ONE THAT WE JUST GOT PAPERWORK ON IS ACTUALLY FOR SOME MORE ADDITIONAL DATA PROOF VEST. RIGHT. THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW. OKAY. BEFORE, THIS IS WHERE SOME OF THIS GOT CONFUSING IS BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM WERE JUST LUMPED INTO FUND 10, YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THOSE GRANTS WERE. RIGHT. AND WE HAD A HECK OF A TIME AUDITING 'EM, BALANCING, DOING THE REPORTS TO FIND, TO FINALIZE THE FINANCIALS TO BE SENT TO THE STATE, THE FEDS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. [01:25:01] SO THE AUDITORS SUGGESTED SINCE NOW I HAVE, UH, A PROJECT MANAGEMENT OR GRANT MANAGER THAT WE SEPARATE THOSE FUNDS. SEPARATE FUNDS SO WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BEING USED FOR. WHICH MAKES TOTAL SENSE, RIGHT. TO DO, I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF ACCOUNTING. YOU HAVE TO SET UP A SEPARATE FUND. RIGHT. 'CAUSE THEN I GOTTA GET THE TREASURER INVOLVED AND WE NEED TO RECONCILE THIS SEPARATE. CAN IT GO IN THE GENERAL OPERATING MONEY? AS LONG AS WE KEEP IT SEPARATED. SO THERE'S SOME STIPULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. RIGHT. TAMMY'S RESPONSIBLE, UH, AUDITING AND REPORTING THESE GRANTS. THAT'S PART, SHE'S HER GRAND ADMINISTRATOR AND THAT'S PART OF HER RESPONSE. SHE DOESN'T DO THE AUDITING. NO, I DO. BUT SHE'LL BE AUDITED BY THE STATE ON THESE GRANTS. RIGHT ON. SHE SEE DECISION WE ARE DOING ACCORDING TO, SHE ACTUALLY PUTS THE, THE NUMBERS TOGETHER, SHE'LL GET WITH US TO GET, LIKE IF IT'S FOR THE SALARY AND WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE, SHE'LL GET WITH KW OR I SHE'LL WORK THOSE NUMBERS UP. THEN SHE'LL COME AND TALK ABOUT, WELL THIS VEHICLE, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH GASOLINE, HOW MANY PARTS AND REPAIRS WERE DONE FOR THAT PHYSICAL? AND THAT'S HOW SHE WORKS UP A BUDGET. I MEAN, WHEN SHE'S DOING THE ONE FOR THE CAPITAL MURDERS, SHE HAD TO GET WITH JUDGE WILEY, JUDGE CHITTY, JUDGE TIGER, JUDGE WOOD, THE COURT REPORTERS TO GET THE DIFFERENT PRICES OF THE PIECES TO PUT TOGETHER TO GET ONE BIG LUMP SUM. AND IT HAS TO BE BUDGETED THAT WAY. SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IN WHAT FORM? PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, HARBOR JOB IS GRANT RIDER, BUT IT'S REALLY GRANT ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE YOU CAN GET THE GRANT BUT YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. YOU KNOW, WE RUN INTO THAT. YOU CAN LOSE THE GRANT LIKE THAT. WE CAN LOSE THE GRANT. YOU HAVE PAY IT BACK. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. YOU HAVE TO PAY IT BACK. NO, THAT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE, I WAS LIKE THE ADULT JUVENILE PROBATION, UH, MONEY THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE, IF YOU KNOW IT'S NOT DONE CORRECTLY AND REPORTED CORRECTLY, YOU WIND UP OWING THEM SOME MONEY AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND THEY WANT THE MONEY. WELL, AND SHE'S, SHE'S PRETTY MUCH A, I MEAN, YEAH, SHE TOOK THAT ROUND WITH IT. SHE'S HAD TO LEARN A LOT. YEAH, SHE HAS. AND SHE'S STILL LEARNING, BUT SHE OH YEAH. SHE STAYS ON TOP OF THESE THINGS. THE ONLY OTHER TRANSFER I HAVE FOR Y'ALL TO PROVE IS A ROAD BRIDGE WE GOT SOME REVENUE IN THAT WAS RECORDED IN 2014 AND I CAUGHT IT AND MOVED IT INTO 2013. SO ROAD BRIDGE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY FOR, UM, YOUR TRANSFER IN, UH, ABOUT, I WOULD SAY ABOUT 190,000. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. AND THAT WAS SPLIT BETWEEN Y'ALL ACCORDING TO YOUR PERCENTAGES. AND THEN THE JACK WAS REALLY GOOD BECAUSE HE ASKED ME, WELL WHEN DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THIS, UH, AUCTION CHECK TO THE TREASURER? I SAID, WHAT'S THE TODAY? HE SAID 30TH. I SAID, TAKE IT TODAY SO WE CAN GET IT RECORDED IN THE RIGHT FISCAL YEAR AND NOT HAVE TO MOVE IT AROUND. SO WHERE DID THAT 190,000 COME FROM? THAT WAS AUCTION STUFF PLUS ROAD AND BRIDGE, UH, PROPERTY TAXES THAT THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTED AND THE AUTO STUFF REGISTRATION. YEAH. Y'ALL NEED TO, TO REALIZE THAT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY'RE TAKING THAT MONEY IN, THEY DON'T GET TO LUMP IT IN ONE BIG SUM AND TAKE IT TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE FOR RECEIVING THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH. UH, I'VE ONLY GOTTEN HALF OF SEPTEMBER MONEY, SO THERE'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 10 DAYS OF MONEY THAT I'LL EVENTUALLY GET THE REPORTS AND I'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE. SO THAT'S WHY I SAID I COULDN'T, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ESTIMATE YOU WERE GOOD BEGINNING BALANCE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH OTHER STUFF TO GET RECORDED TO CLOSE THAT YEAR OUT. AND I KNOW YOU'RE SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD THINKING, WHY IS IT SO HARD? IT'S JUST THE WAY THE ACCOUNTING WORKS AND THE MONEY COMES IN AND WE GET THE REPORTS FROM EVERYBODY. WELL, WE LEARN BY HEARING THESE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS. THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US. AND IF YOU UNDERSTAND, WE'RE ON MODIFIED ACCRUAL AND Y'ALL ARE TOO. THE TREASURER IS ON A CASH BASIS. EXPLAIN TO ALL OF US. MODIFIED ACCRUAL. I MODIFIED ACCRUAL IS LIKE, I KNOW I'M GETTING THIS MONEY. THERE IS A GREAT POSSIBILITY AND IT'S PROBABLE, THOSE ARE KEY WORDS THAT YES, I WILL GET THAT. THAT TAX MONEY IN YOU RECORD RECEIVABLE AND YOU CREDIT ALL YOUR REVENUES. WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS WHEN THE MONEY COMES INTO THE TREASURER, THEY WILL HIT CASH AND CREDIT THE RECEIVABLE. THEY'RE HITTING CASH AND HIT THE REVENUE IN THE NEW YEAR. SO I HAVE TO BACK ALL THAT OUT. AND I DID THAT LAST YEAR AND THAT'S THE AUDIT. THE [01:30:01] OUTSIDE AUDITOR SAID WE DID A GOOD JOB ON IT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH WHAT WE DID. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. AND WHEN YOU'RE ON A CASH BASIS, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY DO IT BECAUSE IT MESSES UP THEIR BANK RECONCILIATION IF THEY PUT IT IN SEPTEMBER AND THEY'VE ALREADY GOT SEPTEMBER BALANCED. YEAH. AND ON THE, ON THE THINGS IN THE AUCTION, THEY WOULD BE, UH, EACH PRECINCT WOULD, ANY ITEMS THEY SOLD WOULD BE CREDITED BACK TO THAT PRECINCT. YES SIR. THAT'S PART OF YOUR REVENUES. AND THINK PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT FOUR WERE TRAINED LAST WEEK TO GET ON SDW AND RUN THEIR OWN REPORTS. THEY CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS IN THEIR BUDGET AND SEE THE DETAIL FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL THROUGH THE CURRENT DATE. UH, TWO AND NO, IT WAS ONE IN THREE. SORRY, DID YOU DO FOUR ALSO? I DID ONE, THREE AND FOUR. ONE, THREE AND FOUR. IT'S ONLY COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK AND MS. LINDA THAT WILL BE TRAINED IN, NOT THIS COMING WEEK, BUT THE FOLLOWING WEEK, WHERE THEY CAN GET IN THERE AND LOOK AT THEIR OWN BUDGET PRINTED REPORT, UH, AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS WILL, WILL HELP. OKAY. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS THE ROAD BRIDGE TRANSFER AND THE TWO AMENDMENTS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COOPER ON THIS? UH, BILL FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON RADIO, IT'S OF THE TOP SAYS 2014, THE BOTTOM SAYS ESTABLISHED BUDGET IN 2013. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN THEY GET A A GRANT, WE JUST FINISHED A GRANT THAT WAS A 2010, 2011. UH, FOR THEM IT'LL RUN OVER TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT FISCAL YEARS. THAT'S JUST THE NAME OF THE GRANT AWARDED IT TO IN THOUSAND 13. IF YOU LOOK HERE, IT WAS AWARDED TO, BUT THEY ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED IT AND WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET AND ORDERED THE STUFF YET I MIGHT GIVE YOU THE CLARK BOARD. CATCH THE DATE. YEAH. OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THAT RECOMMENDED BY THE OFFICER. MR. SHANE MAKES THAT MOTION ACCEPTANCE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE 20 YEARS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT. CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE MILLION 78,000 577 55. AND I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT TIME TO LOOK AT ALL THE SCHEDULES TO CHECK YOUR BILLS, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU THE HERE WHENEVER. UH, THERE'S SEVERAL ISSUES IN HERE, UH, WHERE PEOPLE GO INTO TRAINING. YES SIR. AND THE TRAINING'S GONNA BE IN OCTOBER. IS THAT, IS THIS IN OCTOBER 20TH, 2013, 14 BUDGET? YES. OR 23RD. YEAH, WE HELD THOSE AND PUT 'EM IN OCTOBER. SO IT'S GONNA BE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. BUDGET. WE ARE HAVE TO DISCOUNT TO CHARGE YOUR REGISTRATION FEE. MIDDLE UP. JUDGE SMITH ASKED THAT I TAKE HIS PARTTIME MONEY, HIS FULLTIME MONEY GIVE RAISES. WELL, I THINK WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BROADER DIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT MAY WANNA DO THE SAME THING. AND I THINK ALWAYS IN THE PAST WE PROVED THAT. BUT UH, I THINK LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE STATUTE, THERE MAY BE, UH, AN ISSUE, UH, I GUESS IT COULD BE CONSIDERED IF WE APPROVE A LINE ITEM TRANSFER, THEN PROVE THAT COMMISSIONER FOR CHANGING SALARIES [01:35:02] FOLLOW, UH, IN ONE OF THE JP OFFICES PRECINCT FREE. UH, THERE IS MONEY IN THEIR CURRENT BUDGET, 2014 BUDGET FOR, UH, PART-TIME, PART-TIME CARE. AND WHAT THE JUDGE WANTS TO DO IS TAKE THAT MONEY AND TRANSFER IT AND GIVE TWO PEOPLE, I BELIEVE, AN INCREASE IN THEIR SALARY RAISE. AND ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE THAT, UH, I'VE LOOKED AT, AND I'VE HAD JOHN LOOK AT IT AND I LOOKED AT IT AND KAREN LOOKED AT IT, THERE IS A STATUTE THAT SAYS ANY INCREASE IN COMPENSATION TRAVEL OR WHATEVER, UH, SHOULD BE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. UH, AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE HERE IS WHENEVER WE APPROVE A LINE ITEM TRANSFER, UH, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THIS CASE, IF WE APPROVE IT, THEN IT WOULD BE APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER COURT. THE ISSUE BECOMES IS MAYBE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BUT THEY JUST GIVE A RAISE AS THEY WISH TO GIVE. UH, WHICH PERSONALLY I BELIEVE THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL BUDGET SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ME THINKING BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU, YOU KNOW, YOUR CREWS AND YOUR EMPLOYEES BETTER THAN ANYBODY. BUT ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S RIGHT. AND I, I AM I MISQUOTING THAT? I MEAN NO, I BELIEVE YOU HONOR, THERE'S A STATUTE THAT WHEN YOU, UM, APPROVE THE BUDGET AND YOU APPROVE THOSE LINE ITEMS FOR THOSE AMOUNTS, ESPECIALLY SALARIES, THAT THAT IS STATE , THEN THAT'S WHY I KEPT WAITING BECAUSE THE JUDGE WAS AT CONFERENCE AND I WAS INCLUDED IN SEVERAL EMAILS WITH THE JP AND WITH JOHN LONG, AND I WAS WAITING TO SEE THE FINAL YES. DO IT MAKE THAT BUDGET TRANSFER TO BRING TO COURT OR NOT. AND SORRY, I HAD SO MUCH I DIDN'T, I I FORGOT TO WRITE IT DOWN FOR Y'ALL TO DO IT. NOW, THERE MAY BE A, THERE MAY BE A WAY THAT WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE A COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORDER THAT APPROVES THAT, UH, JUST A STANDING ORDER THAT IT'S IN A BUDGET THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, MAYBE NOT DEPARTMENT HEAD, BUT MAYBE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL COULD MOVE THAT MONEY GROUND IF THEY HAVE MONEY WITHOUT DOING A LINE ITEM TRANSFER. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT, SO, UH, I I HATE NOT TO GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT. BUT ON THE OTHER COGNIZANT OF WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS, WHAT STATE YOU SAY, I DUNNO, I'VE GOT IT ON THE LIST. I CAN'T REMEMBER IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, AND I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS THAT WE, THAT WE LOOKED AT. AND I THINK, I THINK I ACTUALLY GOT IT FROM JIM ALLISON, I THINK, BUT I, JOHNS YEAH, IT WAS JOHN BEEN WORKING ON IT AND I CAN, IF I DON'T FORGET, I CAN FORWARD TO YOU WHAT JIM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND FACT, I ALL, I HAVE THIS. I DID. I GOT IT. I THINK, I REALLY THINK YOU NEED TO GET LEGAL COUNSEL TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO DIRECT YOU. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SAYING THAT YOU'VE ADOPTED THAT BUDGET AND YOU'VE APPROVED IT AND IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FILLED WITH IN REGARDS TO SALARY AND THE BENEFITS THAT YOU CAN DO THIS A CERTAIN WAY AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE WORKSHOPPED OR RESEARCHED JUST TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE DONE WITH A GENERAL LAWYER OR SOMETHING. I'LL, I THINK WE GOT THAT EMAIL LAST WEEK WHILE I WAS IN, WHILE WE WERE DOWN THERE AND I THOUGHT, I FORWARD IT, MY GUESS. BUT ANYWAY, I'VE STILL GOT IT. I'LL, SO MAYBE WE NEED TO ADOPT THAT MODIFY S EMPLOYEE IF IT'S WITHIN THEIR, TO ME THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE GIVE PROMOTIONS TO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY INCREASE THEIR CAPABILITIES OR YEAH, RESPONSIBILITY. RESPONSIBILITY. AND I, I THINK WE TRIED TO DO BETTER AIRPORT MEETING. IT JUST BE A YEAH. YOU KNOW, TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THAT, YOU KNOW. SO NOW WOULD BE AN EASIER WAY TO DO IT THAN THAT. I THINK ONCE YOU, ONCE IT'S IN THERE, IS THAT PERSON YOU, WE CANNOT OVERRIDE THAT PERSON'S RESPONSIBILITY TO OVERSEE THERE. WELL THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN BELIEF, BUT IT DOES. YEAH. THAT AND THAT'S THE WAY I THINK IT SHOULD. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UH, THIS STATUTE THAT JIM SENT IT, IT PRETTY WELL SAYS THAT THAT SALARIES, UH, BENEFITS, UH, TRAVEL HAS TO BE APPROVED BY [01:40:01] THE, UH, Y'ALL GONNA HAVE TO GET ME SOMETHING IN WRITING BECAUSE MY COUNTY AUDITORS TOLD ME, NO, YOU DON'T CHANGE. THAT WASN'T, WE DID APPROVE THAT WHEN WE APPROVED THE BUDGET. WE, WE HAVE APPROVED THAT VERY SAME VALUE WHEN WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, WE HAVE APPROVED THIS MUCH TRAVEL, THIS MUCH MONEY. WELL, I GUESS BROADLY SPEAKING, WE HAVE, AND MAYBE THAT'S ENOUGH, BUT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SENSE THAT FROM THE EMAIL THAT, THAT WE GOT FROM JIM. THAT'S WHY I WAS WORRIED ABOUT IT. YEAH. I DON'T WANT Y'ALL DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. BUDGET FORWARD IS WHAT IT'S, YEAH. UNLESS THERE'S A LINE ITEM TRANSFER THAT WE WANNA DO. BUT SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ON FOR THIS MEETING, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT RIGHT NOW. WE CAN COME BACK UP. I'LL CALL HIM AND APOLOGIZE AND TELL HIM IT'S MY FAULT. LET'S DO IT. RIGHT. MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE SAFE. SO ALL THESE INTERDEPARTMENTAL RAISES, IF WE'RE FINDING MONEY TO GIVE, GIVE ALL EMPLOYEES OR ACROSS THE BOARD RAISE, RIGHT? IS THAT GONNA BE CONSIDERED IN WHEN WE MAKE THAT DECISION? IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE PEOPLE GONNA GET RAISED TO DRIVE ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD. WHAT THAT CREATES. SO WHEN YOU DO, YOU KNOW, DO IT ACROSS THE BOARD DEAL, EVERYBODY FINDS OUT ABOUT IT. I'M SURE TWO RAISES. DO YOU? YEAH, I MEAN I AND I FIND OUT ABOUT IT GENERAL, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE. I MEAN THE FIRST OR THE LAST AND ON THAT, I DID IT THE LAST, YOU KNOW, I AND NOW YOU SAYS, YEAH, YOU ARE. THERE'S, THERE'S SOME OF THEM THAT WE HAVE TO PAY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO THIS FOR THE INDUSTRY. OCTOBER 7TH, THE EIGHTH. RIGHT. THE, YOU CHARGED 2013, BUT RIGHT. DO THOSE AND STUFF. I CAN GO BACK THERE AND CHANGE IT AND GET THAT CHANGED. UM, NOW THEN I HAVE TO, THERE'S WAY FOR TO FORWARD DATE THOSE CHECKS TO 14 AT THE TIME. SO I HAD TO GET THOSE PAID, UM, THAT MONDAY. UM, SO THEY, YOU'RE RIGHT PAID. BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. THESE ARE ALL THE SAME. THESE ARE ALL, THEY SHOULD JUST BE CHARGED 2014 BUT ONLY, I'M SAYING WRITE CHECK SOME OF THEM IF THEY COME IN. BUT THE PERM IS GOING BE OCTOBER 13. SO IT SHOULD BE CHARGED. YEAH. WE TO JUST LIKE APPROVE THAT. NOT YOU CAN GO [01:45:01] AHEAD SEE, GET THE NAME AWARD BACK. MR. . YES. PASS BACK. THEY'RE TRYING TO MEMORIZE THAT. NO. CASEY'S THREE WEEKS. WE HAD A I YES SIR. KEN, DID YOU GO, YOU DIDN'T GO TO ATTACK CONFERENCE IN AUGUST, DID YOU? NO. NO. YEAH, THAT DATE'S ON HERE THEN. SHOULD BE 10 SESSION TO EIGHT, SEVEN. YEAH. THIS WE, YEAH, SHE TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY THAT CHECK IN THERE SAID I NEED TO ON WHEN IT WAS TURNED INTO. SO PROBABLY SHOULD BE 14. IT'S WHEN THEY WENT TO THE CONFERENCE. THERE'S ANOTHER THAT ONE WAS, IT SAYS 8, 7 15. PROBABLY 10 BECAUSE THAT'S JUST ONE WENT TO LAST WEEK TO BE YEAH, IT WAS OCTOBER. COME IN ON THURSDAY. I THINK HE SENT THESE, [01:50:44] LOOKS LIKE WE DID THE SAME THING ON REGISTRATION TO GET A DISCOUNT. YEAH, THAT'S, OH YEAH. SHOULD BE CREDITED TO THE NEXT YEAR. NO, SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER. YOU'RE DAYS YOU REGISTER. THERE'S, WHAT'S THIS, THIS ONE REAL QUICK. 82, THE WHITE FENCE. NO, I, I TOOK THAT ONE OFF BECAUSE IT'S A MANUAL CHECK. AND SINCE IT ADDED, SEE WHENEVER I RUN THESE CHECKS FOR THE, UM, WEEKLY CHECKS THURSDAY I HAVE TO THE CHECK DATES. WELL, IF I HAPPEN TO DO MANUAL CHECKS, THOSE CHECKS DATE TEN THREE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ONES I DID, IT'S GONNA SHOW UP THIS REPORT. SO THE REASON I ASKED THAT OUT IS BECAUSE THAT CHARGE IS SHOWING UP ON THIS REPORT AND IT'S SHOWING UP ON THE CHECK REGISTERS. SO YOU DON'T WANT, AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT APPROVE. WE HAVE SEPARATE, WE HAVE SEPARATE CLAIM ACCOUNTS. UH, CHECK THAT'S WHAT HE WAS ASKING FOR. . I'M, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS? I THINK THAT WAS THAT REPAIR TO THAT FENCE. I'M NOT SURE THOUGH. WHAT'D YOU DO ? SOMEBODY TOLD ME I'M NOT GETTING ANYTHING ATTACHED TO IT. A TO C ALL ATTACHED CHECK. THAT'S ALL I WAS SENT TO FOR [01:55:01] COURT MANUAL CHECK. WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF JOHNNY CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION 'CAUSE IT CAME FROM HIM. IS THAT, THAT'S NOT A CHECK THAT WE ACTUALLY GENERATE IN OUR OFFICE. WE JUST REPORT HAS TO WRITE, WE JUST REPORT THIS A SEPARATE ACCOUNT. YES SIR. IT'S IT IS OUT THEIR IT'S FUNDED THEIR MONEY. YEAH, IT'S OUT THEIR MONEY. SEE IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE ON MUSEUMS. OH NO. DO WHAT? NO, IT WASN'T NO CHRISTMAS MONEY ON THIS. UH, I GO TO DOWN AT SAN MARCO. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FREE. I THINK THEY PAID MILEAGE AND EVERYTHING ON IT. I DUNNO. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE URBAN REPORTER TO LAUREN? MAYBE THE WHAT NOW? I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE JUST OH, NOT YOU, FLOYD. OKAY. LORD FLOYD. YEAH. THANK THE 10 27 MEETING DOWN THERE. ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, IT'S SOMETHING. IT'S ABOUT UH, THE INVESTMENT STUFF AND THE STUFF THAT THEY A CO COMMISSIONER AND THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE. PAY THE TUITION, PAY YOUR MILEAGE, PAY YOUR AIR FAILURE FAR THE INSURANCE ISN IT OR RISK, RISK, RISK. RISK MANAGE. YEAH. RIGHT. BE FREE. I, I DON'T REMEMBER. YEAH, BECAUSE I, I KNOW I WASN'T GOING THE COUNTY BUT I DIDN'T REMEMBER THEY PAID MILEAGE NINE FOR TWO PEOPLE. YEAH. ACROSS INVOICED US. THIS COMMISSIONER JUST PAID ACROSS. DID SAY SO MEMBER COMMISSIONER TO COURT. IT CAME, I REMEMBER LOOKING AT MAYBE JUST FOR COMMISSIONER. I'VE ALREADY SIGNED IT. OH, WE'RE JUST WAITING ON HOUSE FACILITY SOLUTIONS. PULL THOSE UP FOR ME. FIRST BARN BILL BOUGHT, WHICH BUILDING WAS THIS? WAS THIS, OH, HE'D GIVE MONEY BACK TO SOMEBODY. OKAY. IT ALL DID SEPARATE EACH ONE. THERE'S TWO THAT WE ACTUALLY REISSUE BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION [02:00:12] ONE FOR THE THOUSAND. IS THAT UNDER CONTRACT? IT'S UNDER AGREEMENT THAT Y'ALL COURT. WELL, ON COURTHOUSE WE DID MOST AND NOW WE'RE UH, THEY HAD TO COME OUT AND INSPECT. YEAH, THEY HAD TO INSPECT. THEY HAD TO PASS THE INSPECTION, MAKE A PRESENTATION. THE CHECKS. WE AGREED TO THAT NOTE SOMETIME. ? YES SIR. SURE DID. WE DID A PO GET A PO TO TIE THE MONEY UP. WE HAD TOE AROUND FIND THE, YEAH, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE HE LEASING THE LAWN. HOW DOES THAT WORK? HE'S GOT HIS OWN PERSONAL LAWN MOWER AND HE'S LEASING IT TO CHILDCARE CENTER. AS LONG AS THEY IMPROVE THEIR BUDGET. I THOUGHT SAME THING. IT LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE THEY ALSO THE DISCOVERY, THAT'S THE POINT I MADE TO THAT BOARD. AND THAT'S WHY YOU STATUS CHANGED. SO WE NEED TO KNOW. CAN YOU GET TO THAT? [02:05:12] WHAT'D YOU DECIDE THE FENCE WAS? IT WAS BUSINESS. IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULDN'T IT LIKE EVERYBODY BEEN TALKING TO ABSOLUTELY. LET'S GET SOMETHING SEASONAL THAT SCHOOL PEOPLE, SHE KNOW WHY I COULDN'T GO TO THE WITH. I SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT DO AT THE, SHE SAID NONE NEW LAWN AFTER LAWN. SHE, ONE REASON YOU'RE SAYING AN INCREASE IN CHECKS IS BECAUSE I THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DOING ALL THE JURY CHECKS. SO WE'VE GOTTEN STW AND TYLER TECHNOLOGIES TO ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER AND I, I APPRECIATE. SO, UH, JOHNNY WENT AND OPENED ANOTHER BANK ACCOUNT, WHICH FOR THE JURY CHECKS AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE MONEY THAT YOU TO THAT BANK ACCOUNT AND IT'LL ACCOUNT JUST TOOK A WHILE TO GET IT. KCC TRYING TO KCC. IT'S PROBABLY A RESTITUTION OR SO SHIP COUNCIL LEADERSHIP, COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP. HOW MUCH MEMBERSHIP I, THIS CAME FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IT WAS A TRAINING FOR FRED FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. LEADERSHIP COUNCIL. WHAT'S THAT? THEY DON'T DO ANY, IT'S THE MONTHLY, THEY GO FOR THE NINE MONTHS. EVERY THUR OR YOU KNOW, ONCE A MONTH ON THURSDAY. AND THEY GO TO THE DIFFERENT AH, THEY, THEY LEARN ABOUT TRAINING. YEAH, IT'S THE, OH, THE, THE, IT IS CALLED COUNTY. IT'S CALLED COUNTY LEADERSHIP. AND WHAT IT IS IS THEY MEET ONCE A MONTH. YEAH. FOR LIKE NINE MONTHS. AND THEY LEARN ALL ABOUT THE COUNTY AND CITY. IT'S LIKE 20 PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO THEM. BUT IT'S NOT THE LEADERSHIP, IT'S NOT THE COUNCIL. YEAH. YOU SPEAK TO IT GREG, MOST OF THE TIME ON THE TRANSPORTATION. I DIDN'T KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THE COUNTY. I KNOW WHEN THE WATER DISTRICT SENT ME TO THEIR LEADERSHIP THAT WHEN I WAS IN DICKINSON THEY PAID FOR IT BECAUSE THAT WAS CONSIDERED AWARE OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. WE'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING THAT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF IT. BENEFICIAL. YEAH. I, [02:10:04] OKAY. OUR WEBSITE, IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE WE DO. YEAH. EVERY MONTH WE DO. I SEND IT TO THE JUDGE. I MEAN I CAN MAKE SURE YOU WANNA SEND IT OUT. WELL, I MEAN I THINK YOU CAN JUST GO TO THE WEBSITE. YEAH, THE WEBSITE'S GOT IT ON OUR WEBSITE. I THINK YOU COUNTY PRE TRAINING STUFF THAT THEY DO THEY AWARE OF THAT? I SAID NO. SO HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON OUR MEETING LIST. I SAID WELL PROBABLY GONNA SPAM AND GET KICKED OUT. I ANYBODY, HE TOLD ME ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THEY DO FOR FREE, ALL BENEFITS. THEY GOT THAT TRAINING. YOU FOR SOME REASON TRIED THE COURTHOUSE, NOTHING. THAT'S ALL. ARE WE, WE THROUGH MM-HMM . ALL, ALL DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A CLAIM FOR PAPER. WE HAVE MOTION. COMMISSIONER SHANE, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MANNY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? I NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MAY MR. MANNY, SECOND. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, ALL IN FAVOR SAY THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD TRIP. YES, SIR. LEARNED A LOT. BE CAREFUL. AT LEAST THIS TIME I CAN LEARN. I TEACH YOU WORKED FOR THE, I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF DICKINSON AND DISTRICT. I. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.