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           FOR VOTING OR NOT, WE MEETING OF S COURT, UH, OPEN THIS MORNING AS OCTOBER 28TH THOUSAND 13. 
          UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          WE HAVE SOME, UH, ITEMS OF BUSINESS THAT WE WILL CONDUCT HERE JUST IN A FEW MOMENTS, BUT I WANTED TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU HERE TODAY. 
          IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, OR YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MENTION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE DO HAVE A SIGN IN, UH, SHEET OVER HERE FOR YOU TO FILL OUT. 
          UH, AND THEN WE WILL, UH, UH, INTRODUCE THOSE OF YOU THAT, UH, THAT MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS MADE AT THAT TIME. 
          WE ALSO, UM, WILL, UH, UH, CONDUCT A SWEARING IN THE CEREMONY, UH, SOME CALLING A SWEARING APP CEREMONY OR SWEARING OUT WHATEVER OF, UH, OUR NEW JP THAT WE WILL ANNOUNCE HERE PUBLICLY DISTANT IN MOMENTS, AND LET HER GET SWORN IN SO SHE CAN START CONDUCTING THE BUSINESS OF JP ONE COURT. 
          BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE OUR INVOCATION AND, UH, MR. MANNING, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO DO THAT, THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND BOTH THE FLAGS. 
          SO IF YOU PRAY, MOST GRACIOUS FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE, FOR THIS DAY, AND THANK YOU FOR THE, THAT WE'VE HAD. 
          BLESS US. 
          LORD, LOOK OVER. 
          IT SAYS, WE MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR THE COUNTY. 
          GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND THE WISDOM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR ALL THE CITIZENS OF CAMAN COUNTY. 
          LORD, LOOK OVER THOSE SOLDIERS WHO ARE PROTECTING OUR COUNTRY. 
          WE KEEP THEM SAFE. 
          ASK FOR THEIR SAFE RETURN HOME. 
          IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. 
          AMEN. 
          UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. 
          FOR ALL. 
          HONOR. 
          HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, ALL TO BE IN TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYONE THAT'S HERE THIS MORNING THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IN THE COURT? I ANYONE SIGNED UP THOUGH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, LEMME JUST TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING DO NOW. 
          WE HAD A, UH, UH, LENGTHY DAY, UH, FRIDAY, UH, WHERE WE INTERVIEWED 11 CANDIDATES FOR OUR, UH, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, UH, VACANCY IN PRECINCT ONE. 
          WE HAVE 11 VERY, UH, QUALIFIED, I WOULD ADD, AND, UH, ALSO VERY GOOD, UH, CANDIDATES THAT WE INTERVIEWED. 
          AND I MUST BRAG ON THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT. 
          WE, UH, SPENT, UH, FROM ABOUT EIGHT 30, UH, FRIDAY MORNING TILL ABOUT, WHAT, FOUR 30, I GUESS, FRIDAY AFTERNOON. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A FULL DAY. 
          UH, WE HAD COOKIES AND CAKE, WHICH SUSTAINED US DURING THE DAY, , AND THAT WAS ALWAYS IMPORTANT. 
          UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE, UH, NEWS, UH, THAT WAS SOON TO BE, HE'S SWORN IN JUSTICE OF PEACE PRECINCT ONE, MARY BARTON AND MARY. 
          WE'LL, WE WILL COME FORWARD, WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN AND, UH, THEN LET YOU, UH, GET YOUR BOND AND GET, GET READY TO GO. 
          SO JUST PULL THIS RIGHT HERE. 
          IF YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          UH, I, BARRY BARDEN, MAY BARNEY, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES THAT FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT, ONE OF THE OFFICE OF COFFMAN COUNTY JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT THAT LONG, THAT'S A LONG ONE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, STATE OF TEXAS, AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, AND OF THIS STATE. 
          AND OF THIS STATE. 
          SO HELP ME, GOD, CONGRATULATIONS VERY MUCH. 
          LET'S GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT OR SAY ANYTHING TO ANYBODY TOO NERVOUS TODAY? . 
          I'M GONNA JUMP IN, GUYS. 
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GOOD. 
          I'LL GO TAKE CARE OF MY BUSINESS. 
          GOOD. 
          WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          I WE HAVE, HMM, DID WE HAVE SOMEBODY LAST MINUTE WHILE YOU TALKING? OKAY. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          THIS, UH, STEWART, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP ANYWHERE IN PARTICULAR, YOUR, JUST RIGHT HERE? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, UM, ITEMS 11 AND 12 ON THE AGENDA, UM, THAT APPROVING THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER, UM, FOR EXTRA HELP, UM, FOR THE, UH, SECRETARY AND THE PRECINCT OFFICE. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT I, I DON'T, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T WANNA KEEP MONEY OUTTA ANYBODY'S POCKETS, BUT, UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT THIS LINE ITEM WAS MADE SPECIFICALLY, PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CELLPHONE, THAT THIS LINE ITEM WAS MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR EXTRA HELP. 
          AND WE'RE INTO THE THIRD WEEK OF OCTOBER, AND WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSFER THIS MONEY OVER INTO SALARIES. 
          AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET HEARINGS, WE WERE ASKED COUNTYWIDE TO MAKE SOME CUTS, EVERYBODY MAKE CUTS. 
          THERE WERE NO, UM, SALARY INCREASES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          AND, UM, NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE, UM, SALARY INCREASES. 
          UM, I HOPE THE COURT WILL TAKE THIS IN CONSIDERATION. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          UM, IF ONE EMPLOYEE GETS A RAISE, THEN THE WHOLE COUNTY SHOULD GET A RAISE. 
          UM, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S THE PROPER TIME WE'RE GETTING, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE THREE WEEKS INTO THE BUDGET AND, YOU KNOW, WE, I, HAVE, WE EVEN LOOKED FOR EXTRA HELP, OR THAT'S NO QUESTION. 
          BUT NOW WE'RE WANTING TO GIVE RAISES AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA KEEP MONEY OUTTA ANYBODY'S POCKET, BUT RIGHT IS RIGHT. 
          THANK VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, I HAD SOME HANDOUTS THAT I GAVE YOU, UH, EARLIER. 
          ONE OF THE ONES I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SEEING IS THE ONE THAT, UH, WE HAVE THAT I'VE ASKED LAURA AND I TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK. 
          AND WE HAVE THE COUNTY CLERK DAILY INSTRUMENT AVERAGE FOR 2013. 
          AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FIRST PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THROUGH, UH, THE END OF, UH, SEPTEMBER, OR ACTUALLY THROUGH SEPTEMBER, WE, THAT NINE FOUR, BUT MOST OF THE MONTHS HAD BEEN AVERAGING UP. 
          WE DID, WE AVERAGE, UH, AVERAGE OF 98. 
          AND THEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, LOOK ON THE SECOND PAGE, THIS SHOWS WHAT THE AVERAGE WAS FOR, UH, 2012, WHERE IT, UH, AVERAGED ABOUT 92. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD PAGE, UH, SHOWS YOU THE YEARLY INSTRUMENT AVERAGE PER DAY, UH, IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS, IF YOU LOOK BACK IN THE YEARS WHEN THE ACTIVITY WAS REALLY BOOMING, AND THESE PRIMARILY ARE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS, UH, I BELIEVE MARYANNE AND THE COURT, OR IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL OF THOSE YEARS, WE WERE LIKE 125 AND 121. 
          THEN YOU NOTICE THINGS WHEN THEY REALLY STARTED SLOWING DOWN IN 2008, UH, SLOWED DOWN TO NINE SIX PER YEAR, AND THEN 2009 TO 84, 86, 84, UH, AND THEN IT STARTED PICKING UP A LITTLE BIT LAST YEAR, 2012 TO, UH, NINE TWO. 
          AND THEN THIS YEAR THROUGH SEPTEMBER WE'RE AT 2013. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD INDICATOR THAT WE HAVE MORE ACTIVITIES. 
          TOM, YOU JUST, I JUST WISH, I WISH, UH, I JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE INTERESTING JUST TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SEE EXACTLY WHAT, HOW THE ACTIVITY HAS, UH, BEGAN TO, UH, INCREASE. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING I HAD FOR YOU, THE, UH, UH, POOR FARM, UH, IS, UH, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO DISTRIBUTE THE HANDOUTS, JIMMY, THERE, RIGHT? UH, UH, UNDER YOUR, YEAH, THERE WE GO. 
          UM, THE, THE BULL FARM IS RAISING MONEY. 
          HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS, UH, RAISING MONEY, 
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UH, TO BUY, UH, UH, FENCE, UH, UH, OR WE CALL THEM PANELS. 
          UH, IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THAT, UH, THEY WILL CERTAINLY TAKE YOU WITH MONEY IN, UH, DOING SO. 
          AND THEY'RE ABOUT $500 PLUS THE COST OF THE LETTERING. 
          AND THIS WILL BE THE FENCE THAT WE'LL FACE ON HIGHWAY 34, THE EXISTING HIGHWAY 34. 
          AND IT IS A WAY FOR THEM TO RAISE MONEY TO CONTINUE THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE, UH, OF THE TOUR FARMERS. 
          ANYBODY HERE TODAY FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY? YES, MA'AM. 
          JOHNNY, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? NO, YOU, WE DID BEFORE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DID IT OVER THERE NEXT FOR FARM ITSELF. 
          IT RAISED SOME GOOD MONEY FOR, THERE'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SHORT MONEY OVER THERE, GET STUFF CLEANED UP, CLEANED UP, AND THAT WILL SERVE TWO PURPOSES LOOK GOOD OUT THERE. 
          IT'S ALSO KEEP PEOPLE FROM, YOU KNOW, TRESPASSING MIGHT DO SOMETIMES, BUT WE'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          WE SOLD I MONEY FOR TWO OR THREE SI THINK OBLIGATED THE CITY OF KAUFMAN PRETTY OKAY. 
          SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          AND I'M SURE THAT FUNDRAISING, UH, ACTIVITY WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS WE HEAR ABOUT IT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. 
          NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT, UH, AGENDA. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS. THERE ARE A THROUGH G. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, TWO SETS OF SPECIAL MEETING, UH, MINUTES FOR OCTOBER THE FIRST 2013. 
          WE HAVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE REGULAR MINUTES OF THE, UH, OCTOBER THE 14TH, UH, 2013 MEETING. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, CONSIDER, UH, UH, PRECINCT THREE, DEPUTY CONSTABLE, UH, PATRICK POST FROM A RESERVE OFFICER TO A PART-TIME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND APPROVING THE DE FOR SUCH, YOU KNOW, BELIEVE THEIR FUNDS WERE OR BEFORE THAT, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REMOVAL OF TODD RE RE AS A BOARD MEMBER, UH, FROM ESD DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN, UH, DUE TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EDUCATION TRAINING THAT HAVE NOT BEEN MET, UH, WE HAVE ALSO ITEM E TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING BOARD MEMBERS TO REPLACE TODD RE, UH, RE AND CHUCK KADE ON, UH, ESD NUMBER SEVEN AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING CLAYTON KELLY AS THE VETERAN SURFACE OFFICER, UH, IN PRECINCT, UH, FOR THE COUNTY. 
          AND THEN ITEM G IS TO CONSIDER, UH, AND DISCUSS ACCEPTING THE DONATION OF A USED TANDEM DISC FROM LYNN OXFORD TO KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER THREE. 
          UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, WE HAD A COMMITTEE THAT WORKED ON APPOINTING, UH, OUR NEW VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER AND OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR HEAD, THAT COMMITTEE, TANYA, WOULD YOU, UM, UH, BE, UH, COME FORWARD AND INTRODUCE THE, UH, PERSON THAT'S BEEN SELECTED FOR THAT? YES, SIR. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO. 
          COMMISSIONERS, WE DID INTERVIEW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UM, THAT APPLIED FOR THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER POSITION, AND WE RECOMMEND SELECTION OF CLAYTON KELLY. 
          CLAYTON, WOULD YOU STAND UP AND COME FORWARD SO THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE? CLAYTON KELLY IS A LONG-TERM RESIDENT OF KAUFMAN AND COFFMAN COUNTY, AND, UM, HE WANTS TO SERVE US. 
          HE'S A VETERAN HIMSELF AND WANTS TO SERVE THE VETERANS OF THIS COUNTY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          GOOD. 
          CLAYTON, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I, I JUST APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SERVE THIS COUNTY, SERVE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE THIS COUNTRY AND THIS COUNTY, AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH JOHNNY ON MEMORIAL. 
          AND GOOD ONE. 
          YOU'RE FOLLOWING, UH, A GREAT, UH, GENTLEMAN WHO SERVED JOHN. 
          HE'S A GOOD MAN, 15 PLUS YEARS. 
          I KNOW HE'S A  KTS, CERTAINLY WILLING TO HELP YOU DURING THE TRANSITION. 
          AND COURSE MS. RADCLIFF HAS SERVED KIND OF AS AN INTERIM, INTERIM, UH, VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER, AND WE APPRECIATE HER DOING THAT. 
          I THINK SHE'S PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT YOU STARTING . 
          HE SAYS HE STARTING MONDAY. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'D BE GOOD. 
          COMMISSIONERS, Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. 
          APPRECIATE IT TIME. 
          YOU SATISFIED WITH YOU? I'M SATISFIED WITH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'D LIKE TO DO NUMBER C FOR DISCUSSION AND ACCEPT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE WE ACCEPT EVERYTHING ELSE, OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER WE, DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT IT NOW? ONE, I GUESS WE JUST, YEAH, SINCE THAT'S IN YOUR PRECINCT AGAIN. 
          UH, I, I THINK ALL THE MONEY'S AVAILABLE AND, UH, EVERYTHING, UH, IS GOOD TO GO. 
          UH, WE MAKE, I MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS ALL THERE AND THAT, UH, IS THERE ANY, UH, YOU COME UP AND EXPLAIN 
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THIS A LITTLE BIT? OKAY. 
          MAKE SURE ALL OF THIS IS IN PART-TIME DEAL ON MOTION. 
          YES. 
          PART-TIME SYSTEM MOVING TO A DEPUTY CONCO, LET INCREASE THE, UH, LEAVE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE PART-TIME COVERED ON, NO, IT'S NOT. 
          UNLESS THEY'VE GOT 20, 20 HOUR OR 32 HOURS. 
          THIS WILL JUST BE A PART-TIME HELPER THAT YOU GOT PART-TIME SALARY IN THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S MAKE SURE WITH, UH, KAREN THERE, THE HEALTH INSURANCE WILL NOT COME INTO PLAY ON THIS. 
          NOT IF HE WORKS UNDER THE 32. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S THE INTENT THAT THIS PERSON WOULD WORK UNDER. 
          UH, NOT PICKED ON KEITH RIGHT HERE, BUT IN THE PAST WE'VE APPOINTED SOME DIFFERENT POSSIBLES THAT HAVE NOT FALL BACK IN THE MANNER THAT THE SHERIFF DEPUTIES HAVE TO, BY LAW, THEY HAVE TO, UH, HAS HE GONE THROUGH ALL THE YES, ALL MY RESERVES WERE REQUIRED TO QUALIFY SAME TIME, BUT WHAT BACKGROUND CHECKS I DID THAT EVERYTHING DONE, THAT WAS DONE WHEN I TOOK OFF ON EVERYBODY THAT WAS ALREADY THERE. 
          HE WAS ALREADY EMPLOYED AS A RESERVE FOR MY DEPARTMENT WHEN I TOOK OFF. 
          I READ HIS BACKGROUNDS ON EVERYBODY THERE. 
          EVERY, YOU'VE ALREADY CHECKED THEIR BACKGROUND HERE? YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, CONSENT AGENDA. 
          WELL, I HAVE ONE OTHER THING WE NEED TO, UH, DO, UH, ON ITEM E UH, WHERE IT DISCUSSES ABOUT APPOINTING BOARD MEMBERS TO REPLACE TODD NERE AND CHUCK HAY. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE PEOPLE, UH, THAT HAVE APPLIED. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S ANYONE HERE FROM ESD NUMBER SEVEN TODAY OR NOT. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, CALEB ALLEN, UH, DONNIE OR DANNY BAKER AND BOB MULLINS. 
          UH, STEVE, DO YOU, UH, HAVE ANY KNOW ANY OF THESE THREE INDIVIDUALS OR ANY COMMENTS? NO, SIR. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW ANY OF 'EM. 
          UH, AND I WASN'T AWARE THAT THIS WAS EVEN GONNA COME UP UNTIL I GOT THE AGENDA. 
          SO THIS WAS, UH, WE GOT IT, UH, LAST WEEK AND I THINK WE HAD, UH, TRIED TO, UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO POINT SOMEBODY WITHOUT KNOWING A LITTLE MORE DETAILS. 
          SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, SINCE YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF IT, THAT WE MAY WANT TO COME BACK AND WE NEED TO GET A, THESE, A POSITION ON THERE, BUT ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM. 
          BUT, UH, WHAT THIS IS PRECINCT FOUR. 
          UH, YEAH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY OF THESE, MA'AM. 
          I KNOW QUITE A FEW OF THEM, BUT WE'VE GOT THREE APPLICATIONS FOR TWO THINGS. 
          WE, WE SHOULD HAVE THE ESD, DON'T YOU? NEXT TWO SHOULDN'T HAVE THE ESD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THEY USUALLY DO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          UH, JUDGE, THEY RECOMMENDED BAKER AND ALLEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S CHECK MARKS ON THE TWO THAT THEY RECOMMENDED ON YOUR, OKAY. 
          SO THAT WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ESD BOARD THAT WE RECOMMEND CALEB ALLEN AND DANNY BAKER. 
          THAT COMMISSIONER IS THAT, UH, GOOD WITH YOU. 
          IT SUITS ME IF THEY, IF THE ESD BOARD RECOMMENDED. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT MOTION? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE FAVOR, CI AYE, THOSE POSTS JUDGE WOOD? YES. 
          ON, UH, ITEM GI NEED A FAIR MARKET VALUE. 
          UM, JACK WILL HAVE TO ADD THAT TO OUR INVENTORY AND WE'LL HAVE TO RECORD IT AS A DONATED PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER MR. CHANGE CAN GET THAT. 
          OKAY? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, NUMBER THREE TO DISCUSS THE, UH, MONTHLY STATISTICS FROM THE ENGINE DEFENSE AND PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. 
          UH, YOU HAVE, UH, A HANDOUT AND I DON'T WHAT YOU GUYS, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU GOT THIS. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          HERE'S ONE, UH, HANDOUT. 
          I ACTUALLY HAVE A HANDOUT. 
          I'VE GOT SOME EXTRAS HERE. 
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UH, I'LL GET THE OTHER. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS THE FROM THE, UH, UH, TON COUNTY, UH, PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. 
          UH, ANDREW AND ANNETTE TODAY ARE IN A PUBLIC DEFENDER'S MEETING IN AUSTIN, UH, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A PUBLIC DEFENDER, BUT AN INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION TRAINING THEY'RE AT TODAY. 
          AND SO THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS FROM THE, ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE BROKEN DOWN BY, UH, BY A FELONY AND BY MISDEMEANOR GOING BACK TO OCTOBER, UH, 12 OF LAST YEAR. 
          AND THIS WOULD'VE BEEN FOR THE FULL BUDGET YEAR, UH, OF, UH, 2013. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, UH, TRIED OR HAS HAVE BEEN HANDLED, NOT TRIED, BUT HANDLED BY THE, UH, PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, 2013, UH, WE HAD 550, UH, FELONY CASES AND 502 MISDEMEANOR CASES FOR TOTAL TOTAL THOUSAND 52, UH, CASES HANDLED BY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE LAST YEAR. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE ONE THAT I ASK, UH, UH, THIS PAGE WHERE IT HAS PAGE ONE AT THE TOP. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WHERE ANNETTE GOES US A SCREENING TO DETERMINE, UH, IF SOMEONE IS TRULY INTERESTED AND DESERVES TO BE, UH, UH, GIVEN THE ENCY, UH, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, DEFENSE COSTS ARE CONCERNED, UH, DURING, UH, THE PERIOD LAST YEAR, FROM DECEMBER THE 15TH TO I THINK DECEMBER, SEPTEMBER THE 15TH TO OCTOBER THE 15TH, THERE WERE 81 APPOINTMENTS MADE TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. 
          AND THEN THERE WERE 66 THAT WERE, WE HAD PRIVATE ATTORNEYS, AND THEN THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 18 REJECTIONS LAST YEAR, UH, AS TO, UH, THAT WERE PEOPLE HAD APPLIED, BUT WERE NOT GIVEN INDIGENCY. 
          AND SO ABOUT 10% OF THOSE CASES ACTUALLY WERE, UH, OR 11%, I GUESS, UH, WERE, UH, DENIED, UH, APPOINTMENTS THIS YEAR FROM SEPTEMBER THE 15TH OF, UH, 2013 TO OCTOBER THE 15TH, UH, WE HAD, UH, 61 APPOINTMENTS MADE TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. 
          UH, 63 MADE TO THE PRIVATE ATTORNEYS, AND THEN WE HAD TOTAL REJECTIONS OF 93 FOR A TOTAL OF 217, UH, CASES THAT WERE HANDLED. 
          AND THAT'S THE REJECTION RATE OF ABOUT 43%. 
          OKAY? SO, UH, THE WORK THAT ANNETTE IS DOING AND THE TOOLS THAT SHE HAS NOW IS, UH, I MEAN, AND SOME OF THESE I WOULD POINT OUT THAT SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD SOME OF THESE. 
          UH, THE REASON, THE PERCENTAGES I HAVE, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT CONTINUE TO APPLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES. 
          SO YOU MAY HAVE ONE PERSON FOR THE SAME CASE OR CASES, AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY BY, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING YOU INFORMATION. 
          AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE TRULY IN, IS THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CORRECT INFORMATION. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT SHE HAD A TOTAL OF TWO 70 PEOPLE, IT'S THAT THEY MAYBE HAD FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT CASES THAT COULD BE DEPENDING ON THEM. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE BEING SENT TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND TO THE, UH, OR I MEAN, THAT ARE BEING REJECTED. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD, MOSTLY IN PART TO THE NEW FORMS,  THE FORMS, I THINK. 
          AND YEAH, THE OTHER THING THAT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW ON HERE, UH, MANY OF THEM DON'T EVEN COMPLETE THE FORM BECAUSE THEY REALIZE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOTTA PROVIDE A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION. 
          AND ONCE THEY LOOK AT IT, THEY REALIZE THEY'RE NOT ENTITLED TO BEGIN WITH, THEN YOU STILL HAVE SOME TO DO. 
          BUT AFTER GOING THROUGH THE, UH, YOU KNOW THAT SHE'S HAS A WAY OF CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE TELLING THE TRUTH THAT THE INFORMATION THEY'RE PROVIDING IS, IS CORRECT. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT MAKES A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE NUMBER OF CASES. 
          SO ANYWAY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS, UH, INTERESTING AND WE WILL, UH, CONTINUE TO TRY TO UPDATE YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING JUST SO YOU'LL, SO YOU'LL SEE. 
          AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT HAS BEEN A, UH, UH, ONE OF OUR LARGER EXPENSE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE AS A, IT'S MAKING A LOT OF DIFFERENCE WHAT DOING GO, GO FROM 11% TO 43%. 
          AND 
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SHE'S, UH, SHE'S BEEN TALKING WITH SOME OF THE, UH, OTHER, UH, ENGINE DEFENSE COORDINATORS AROUND THE AREA. 
          AND, UH, IN FACT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, THE MEETING THEY'RE AT NOW. 
          SHE'S GONNA TALK WITH OTHER PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE NETWORK AND SHE'LL DO THERE. 
          PROBABLY FIND OUT SOME MORE TRICKS OF THE TRADE, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, VERIFY ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? THAT'S GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM NUMBER, UH, THAT'S JUST A REPORT THAT DOESN'T, UH, REQUIRE ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENT. 
          UH, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO, UH, HEAR FROM JEFF BROWN, ACTUALLY ITEM FOUR AND FIVE, UH, TO UPDATE, UH, US ON DE LENGTH INCOME TAX COLLECTIONS. 
          UH, AND JEFF WILL DO THAT FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THE ONE ON THE FINES AND FEES AS WELL HERE, JUST IN A THANK YOU. 
          IS THIS OKAY FOR ME TO TAKE THAT? THAT'S GOOD. 
          BELIEVE, JUDGE. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS OCTOBER LAST YEAR, THE LAST TIME I TALKED ABOUT THESE. 
          WELL, NO, I, I TALKED ABOUT IT IN SPRING. 
          GO ABOUT A SIX MONTH UPDATE BACK IN THE SPRING THAT THIS REPORT COVERS, UH, YOUR LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF OUR ACTIVITIES, UH, REGARDING TAX COLLECTIONS, I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH THE LETTER RIGHT QUICK AND ANY QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          COURT. 
          WE, UH, DURING THE LAST YEAR, AS Y'ALL KNOW, WHEN LINK OF TAX TURNOVER TO US IN JULY, WE BEGAN OUR MAILING PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE START OFF WITH OUR COLLECTIONS. 
          UM, DURING THE LAST YEAR WHEN WE FOLLOWED THAT UP, OBVIOUSLY SEVERAL LETTERS FROM THE YEAR, I THINK IT WAS SIX THIS PAST YEAR. 
          ANYWAY, WE MAILED 2 2 20 7,902 LETTERS, UH, TRYING TO COLLECT DELIN PROPERTY TAXES HERE FROM CALIN COUNTY. 
          AND THE, THE REPORT I'M GIVING YOU TODAY IS GONNA DETAIL ALL, UH, THE ENTITIES WE COLLECT FOR NOT JUST THE COUNTY, BUT EVERYONE. 
          SO  TOTAL, TOTAL EFFORTS WITH REGARD TO THE LAWSUITS. 
          UH, THIS PAST YEAR, JUDGE WOOD HAD HAD WORKED. 
          HE AND I HAD SAT DOWN AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT SOME KIND OF REASONABLE EXPECTATION FOR LEGAL ACTIVITY. 
          HE WANTED US TO FILE SOMEWHERE AROUND 400 LAWSUITS A YEAR. 
          WE'VE GOT 387 ACTUAL SUITS THIS PAST YEAR. 
          THOSE SUITS, UH, ENCOMPASSED TWO, $2.4 MILLION OF  PROPERTY TAXES, TAXES. 
          UM, WE ALSO, IN TERMS OF, PARTICULARLY FOR KIM AND MAYBANK IN HENDERSON COUNTY, THE INTERVEN IN 37 OTHER LAWSUITS THAT FILED IN HENDERSON COUNTY INVOLVING HUNDRED 67,000 ON THE SECOND PAGE, TOP OF THE SECOND PAGE, TALKS ABOUT DISMISSALS. 
          THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD THINGS FOR ALL OF US. 
          UH, 167 LAWSUITS WERE DISMISSED, UH, INVOLVING ABOUT $1.6 MILLION. 
          THOSE LAWSUITS ARE DISMISSED ONCE EVERYTHING'S BEEN PAID ON TAXES, PENALTIES, INTEREST, COURT COSTS. 
          UH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS WHEN WE CAN FILE A LAWSUIT CAN BE DISMISS. 
          THE NEXT PARAGRAPH DEALS WITH JUDGMENTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WE WENT TO COURT, UH, TOOK 164 JUDGMENTS THIS PAST YEAR AND BOUGHT JUST A LITTLE UNDER $900,000. 
          AT THIS POINT, I WANT TO ALWAYS TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, UH, THAT HEARING COMPANY COUNTY JUDGE TIGER, UH, HIS COURT IS THE COURT THAT WE DEAL WITH, AND IT'S THE COURT THAT WE HEAR TAX CASES IN. 
          HE AND HIS STAFF ALWAYS MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE TO ME WHENEVER I NEED, WHENEVER I ASK FOR COURT TIME, I ALWAYS, ALWAYS GET IT. 
          HE GIVES ME PLENTY OF TIME, HE TAKES GREAT CARE AND WHAT HE DOES IN TERMS OF LOOKING FOR THOSE CASES AND THOSE CASES, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I JUST WANT TO TELL THE COURT THAT ALSO WANT THANK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR HELPING US GET PEOPLE INTO COURT. 
          I CAN'T GO TAKE A JUDGMENT IF I CAN'T GET SOMEBODY SERVED IN COURT COURT. 
          SO, UH, IT HELPS TO HAVE, UH, EVERYBODY ELECTED, OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS HERE, HELPING ME GET MY JOB DONE FOR YOU. 
          THOSE JUDGMENTS THAT WE TOOK, UH, WE ALSO RELEASED 33, WHICH MEANS, AGAIN, LIKE A DISMISSAL, YOU GOT PAID THAT WAS $240,000 WORTH OUR TAX SALES. 
          WE, UH, WE CAN, WE SCHEDULE 91 TRACK PROPERTY FOR SALE, THREE 48,000. 
          WE HAVE A TAX SALE. 
          PROBABLY WE HAVE EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS A YEAR WE HAVE, WE'RE HAVING TAX SALE. 
          SO WE'RE HAVING A LOT, UH, WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF GOOD PARTICIPATION FROM PEOPLE HERE IN THE COUNTY WANTING TO BUY PROPERTY. 
          UH, THAT HELPS US, UH, NOT ONLY DOES IT HELP US, UM, GENERATE REVENUE AND ALSO ENSURE A PROPERTY TAX TAXABLE RESTRICTIONS WITH REGARD TO TAX WARRANTS. 
          UH, WE EXECUTED 134 TAX WARRANTS THIS PAST YEAR, UM, INVOLVING $485,000. 
          IT'S A LOT OF WORK, AND AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF, UH, ASSISTANCE, PARTICULARLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, THEY HAVE PLENTY TO DO WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. 
          WE'RE ONLY ONLY PILED ON TOPIC. 
          WE HAVE TO GET A DEPUTY OR TWO GO WITH US. 
          SUSPEND USUALLY A FULL DAY OR MAYBE TWO DAYS TIME, GOING DOWN TO SEEKING 
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EVEN THE MOBILE HOME BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, UH, TO SEIZE. 
          THE GOOD THING IS WE DON'T HAVE TO SEIZE TOO MUCH, UH, PROPERTY AND THE SPECIAL PROJECT SECTION, IF I HAVE TO SEIZE ANOTHER HOSPITAL IN THIS COUNTY, SO, UH, IN, IN THIS, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT, AND THE TAX COLLECTOR DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT. 
          AND, UH, IT'LL BE A HARD SALE TO GET US TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. 
          UM, BUT THAT, BUT IT WAS WELL WORTH YOUR EFFORTS. 
          IT WAS AS A PARAGRAPH THAT TELLS YOU WE COLLECTED $450,000, I BELIEVE, IF I'M MEMORY RIGHT, FROM 11 AND 12 TAXES. 
          WE ALSO GENERATED ENOUGH REVENUE THAT MS. RACK WAS ABLE TO PAY THE THOUSAND 13 TAXES FOR. 
          SO, UH, IT WAS VERY WELL WORTH OUR TIME AND EFFORT AND THE PAY THAT I PUT EVERYBODY THROUGH IN TERMS TO DO THAT. 
          UM, ANOTHER THING THAT, THAT, UH, WE HAD BEEN ASKED TO DO IS, IS, UH, TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO, UH, GET PEOPLE TO PAY THEIR TAXES WITHOUT HAVING TO SUE THEM. 
          IN LINE WITH THAT, WE HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WE'VE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A WALK AND TALK CAMPAIGN. 
          BASICALLY, MY STAFF GOES OUT USUALLY AFTER BUSINESS HOURS AND KNOCKS ON DOORS AND HOLD STATE OWNERS WHO KNOW, WHO LIVE WITH TAXES, VERY NON-CONFRONTATIONAL, GIVE 'EM BILL, SAY, HEY, COME ON DOWN TO THE TAX OFFICE, MAKE A, MAKE A PAYMENT, MAKE A PAYMENT ARRANGEMENT, BUT GET YOUR TAXES PAID SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, TO, TO FILE THE ATION. 
          AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. 
          SO IT, IT'S SOMETHING WE, SOMETHING NEW WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THOSE THINGS. 
          SO BY THE WAY, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS IN THE WORLD. 
          WE TAKE SUGGESTIONS. 
          UM, THE NEXT SECTION IS JUST A LITTLE SECTION I WANTED TO GIVE THE COURT TO KIND LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, I'M REALLY PROUD OF WHAT WE DO. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE, UH, IN 2009, UH, FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, THE TAX OFFICE ROLLED OVER 2, 800, 8 $0.2 MILLION TO US TO COLLECT. 
          AND THIS YEAR WE WERE ONLY ROLLED OVER 4.9 MILLION, WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THAT MEANS THERE'S, WAS IT, UH, 3.3 MILLION, IT'S COLLECTED ON TIME THIS YEAR. 
          THAT WASN'T, UH, FIVE YEAR, FOUR YEARS AGO. 
          UH, REDUCTION OF ALMOST 40%, 39.4%, WHICH IS A, IS A GOOD THING ATTRIBUTABLE TO SEVERAL THINGS. 
          ONE IS PROPERTY, UH, VALUES HERE ARE JUST NOW STARTING TO, TO LEVEL OFF AND TO START TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO PROPERTY BASED AND DROP. 
          UH, ALSO, UH, CURRENT TAX COLLECTIONS HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR THE COUNTY. 
          IT'S A GREAT THING FOR ALL THE JURISDICTIONS. 
          UM, UH, I KNOW PARTICULARLY FOR THE SCHOOLS, THAT IT'S A REALLY GOOD THING THAT CURRENT COLLECTIONS ARE HIGH. 
          AND, AND, UH, I JUST, I I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU SO THAT YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR ME TO MAINTAIN THE COLLECTION DOLLARS THAT, THAT WE HAVE. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE SIMPLY MANY WORK WE'RE GONNA MAKE EFFORT TO DO WE EXCUSE? I MEAN, I KNOW, AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS THAT WAY, BUT, BUT, UH, A FACT IS A FACT, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT IT OUT BECAUSE IT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT, THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT, UH, MS. IFFS OFFICE IS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF COLLECTING THE RETURNS AND, AND THAT'S A, UM, ANYTIME YOU CAN FRONT LOAD THE MONEY. 
          DO YOU RECALL SEVERAL YEARS AGO? UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER CLARK WAS ON THE COURT. 
          IT MAY BE THE OTHER ONE, WHEN WE DID THE 33 11 RESOLUTION, WHEN WE STARTED COLLECTING BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY APRIL 1ST EVERY YEAR, THAT FRONT LOADED, THAT, JUST THAT LITTLE BIT OF FRONT LOADED MONEY HELPS ALL , IT'S PROBABLY THREE, $400,000, UH, IN THAT TIME FRAME. 
          IT'S A HELP TO GET THE MONEY IN , BUT ANY, I'LL TRY NOT TO OFFER TOO MANY MORE EXCUSES, JUDGE WOOD. 
          UH, THE NEXT, NEXT PARAGRAPH, I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO, THROUGH OUR EFFORTS AND THE EFFORT, THE TAX OFFICE, AND BY THE WAY, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT MS.  STAFF. 
          UM, WE WERE ABLE TO COLLECT A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION FROM THE STATEMAN COUNTY, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, MATTERS THE JURISDICTION. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT I QUICKLY RUN THROUGH? I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. 
          THE FIRST, THE FIRST ANSWER, PROBABLY ANSWER THE SECOND ONE FOR ME. 
          COULD YOU TELL ME AGAIN WHY THE TAX ROLL WERE WENT FROM 9 MILLION TO 6 MILLION? WELL, IT, IT IS, I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL FACTORS. 
          ONE IS THERE, THERE WERE DECREASING BAGGAGE HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO THE TAX LEVIES WERE ACTUALLY THAT, WELL, SOMEWHAT LESS. 
          ALSO, THE CURRENT COLLECTIONS HAVE INCREASED GREATLY. 
          I WANNA SAY THAT THE 2009, FOR INSTANCE, THE COUNTY TAX, UH, CURRENT TAX, UH, COLLECTION RATE IN 2009 WAS ABOUT PROBABLY 9 5 6 9 5 7. 
          THIS PAST YEAR WAS, UH, MS. RATCLIFF, WAS IT ABOUT NINE, EIGHT AND A HALF, A LITTLE OVER NINE EIGHT, 
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A LITTLE OVER NINE EIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S, AND THAT'S TRUE FOR ALL THE JURISDICTIONS HERE. 
          EVERY, EVERY JURISDICTION IN THE COUNTY, I BELIEVE HAS HAD, HAS A HIGHER CURRENT  THAN IT DID, UH, FOUR YEARS LATER. 
          IS THAT TYPICAL ACROSS THE STATE IN THAT TIMEFRAME? PROBABLY NOT. 
          PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HERE IN COUNTY. 
          AND, AND A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF COUNTIES THAT ARE WORSE OFF ECONOMICS IN COFFMAN COUNTY WHERE I WORK. 
          SO, SO WE HAD A LOT OF THE DELINQUENCIES WERE MUCH GREATER IN 2009 NINE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WOULD THAT TO THE ECONOMY PROBABLY, OR COULD BE. 
          COULD BE IT. 
          I, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M HESITANT TO ALWAYS LINK THOSE THINGS TO THE BAD ECONOMY TAX RATE. 
          , SOMETIMES IT, SOMETIMES IT DOES CORRELATE PROBABLY 'CAUSE OF COMMERCIAL COORDINATE A BETTER JOB. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE CASE. 
          SO THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD WAS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD HELP OR NOT, BUT IF WE HAD A, UH, IF YOU GIVE US A FORM MUCH LIKE, UH, WE HAD FROM THE COUNTY CLERK EARLIER, AN ANNUAL MONTHLY INCREASE, DECREASE IN CASES OR DOLLARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD THAT HELP? OR WOULD THAT BE TOTALLY SKEWED BECAUSE LIKE, THIS WENT $3 MILLION IN, YOU KNOW, IN THREE YEARS. 
          WOULD, WOULD THAT BE ANY KIND OF HELP THAT, THAT ANALYZE? I CAN SORT LOOK AND SEE HOW WE'RE DONE. 
          I COULD SORT OF LOOK AT IT AND SEE, I'VE NOT, I'VE NOT ACCUMULATED THOSE NUMBERS IN THAT WAY BEFORE NOW WOULD HAVE A HISTORY TO LOOK AT. 
          BUT IS THE HISTORY GONNA BE SKEWED BECAUSE OF THE, WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT? COULD BE, COULD BE, BUT BUT IT COULD ALWAYS BE AFFECTED BY DIFFERENT ECONOMIC FACTORS AND THINGS. 
          LOT . 
          WELL, THAT BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT THING I HAD COMMISSIONER CLARK, WHICH WAS, UH, THE REASON, BY THE WAY, I'VE BEEN ACCUSED BY COMMISSIONER CLARK OF KILLING TREES, UM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ACCURATE. 
          UM, WHAT, WHAT IS, HERE'S THE DETAIL OF WHAT WE'VE DONE AND, UH, I, I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST, UH, A COUPLE TIMES I'VE NOT PROVIDED IT. 
          UH, Y'ALL HAVE INDICATED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. 
          SO, SO IT, IT'S HERE FOR YOU SO YOU KIND OF KNOW, UH, WHAT JURISDICTIONS AND YOU AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN, IN OUR COLLECTION EFFORTS. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE THROUGH YOUR EFFORT SHIFT, YOU MIGHT WORK YOURSELF RIGHT OUT A JOB. 
          WELL, HIM, THE TAX ASSESSMENT, WE, WE, UH, THAT'D BE A GOOD THING. 
          I, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE RIGHT. 
          WELL, I'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF NOT BEING RIGHT ALL THE TIME. 
          SO IF, IF, IF YOU'RE OUT, IF YOU'RE OUT OF THIS, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          IT, IT WOULDN'T BE FROM EACH SHAPE. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE ONE TIME WE'D HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, UH, PUBLISHING THE NAMES OF SOME OF OUR BIGGEST, UH, DELINQUENT TAXPAYERS AND THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS? YES. 
          UH, AND YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THAT SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF DOING THAT. 
          AND I KNOW MS.  PROPERTIES, UH, HAD THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL. 
          OR, UH, WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? IS THAT STILL A IN, IN THE INTEREST OF, UH, FULL DISCLOSURE TO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM? YOU AND I HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION SINCE MY 1988, I THINK OFF. 
          UH, WE WE'RE, WE JUST JUDGE HONESTLY, WE, WE HAD BEEN DOING OTHER THINGS AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT DONE. 
          SURE. 
          UH, WE, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, UH, PROBABLY, UH, SOMETIME LONG IN THE SPRING. 
          PROBABLY BE A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT. 
          TELL, UH, TELL ALL OF US, UH, HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN. 
          I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST, UH, ONE TIME AND PUBLISH AND THE LOCAL NEWS, BUT IT'S, UH, I MEAN, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER NOTIFICATIONS BEFORE THAT EVER OCCURS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WHAT, WHAT THE, THE WAY THAT I, THIS IS WHAT IT IS, MY OPINION ABOUT HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE IS WE, WE PROBABLY WOULD DRAFT A LIST OF ABOUT 250, 300 TOP TAXPAYERS. 
          AND DO WE NORMALLY HERE IN THE COUNTY, HAVE DONE IT BY SCHOOL DISTRICT? AND WE WOULD DO A SPECIAL BAIL TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS TELLING THEM THAT IF THEIR DELINQUENCY IS NOT RESOLVED, THEN THAT WOULD BE PUBLISHED ON THE, ON THE DATE CERTAIN, AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD GIVE THEM PROBABLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 30 DAYS TO GET THAT RESOLVED. 
          UM, THEIR, AND A RESOLUTION WOULD BE, UH, EITHER BY GETTING IT PAID IN FULL OR BY MAKING SOME ARRANGEMENTS WITH MR. LERS OFFICE TO GET IT DONE. 
          UM, THAT, THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A RESOLUTION. 
          AND SIMPLY THE ONES YOU WOULD WIND UP BEING PUBLISHED AFTER THAT NOTIFICATION LENGTH OF TIME WOULD BE, UH, THE WOULD NOT RESPOND ANYTHING DONE AT ALL. 
          THAT'S WHO WOULD BE PUBLISHED. 
          UH, I KNOW IN THE PAST, WE, WE'VE FOUND, FOUND THAT TO BE SOMETIMES, 
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UM, LOCAL FOLKS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S PEOPLE ABSENTEE OR NOT HERE ALL THE TIME, OR WHO ARE NOT. 
          UH, THIS IS JEFF BROWN'S OPINION FULLY INVESTED IN COMMUNITY. 
          WE'RE NOT HERE A LOT, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF NUTS AND BOLTS OF WAY WOULD WORK. 
          UH, AS LONG AS I, I WOULD HATE TO JUST TO POP UP AND POST SOMEBODY, UH, SOMEBODY'S NAME WITHOUT THEM HAVING SOME IDEA WHAT YOU KNOW THERE. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, I THINK THAT YOU TRUST US, MY, MY MYSELF, AND MY FIRM TO DO, AND THIS  OFFICE DO IS, IS WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A TRUE HARDSHIP, THAT, THAT WE NEED TO EVALUATE THAT AND LOOK AT THAT. 
          IF SOMEBODY HAS A HARDSHIP, WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T DO THAT. 
          SOMEBODY'S REALLY GOT A REASON FOR WE, WE WANT YOU LIST THINGS FIRST. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JEFF? COME ON THIS. 
          I'M NOT GONNA MENTION ANY NAMES, BUT, UH, YOU GOT, WHERE ARE YOU? THIS IS PAGE 20 OR 30. 
          OKAY. 
          THE VERY LAST, UH, ITEM ON THERE SHOWS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS IN TAXES. 
          UH, WHAT DOES THE NON-SUIT SUIT THAT STAND FOR MEANS YOU GOT, WE'VE GOT DISMISSED. 
          GOT PAID. 
          IT GOT PAID, YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          PAID THEN. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN, I, I I SHOULD HAVE TOLD THAT COMMISSIONER NON-SUIT DISMISSALS OR, OR . 
          GOOD. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S PAID. 
          AND I WOULD MENTION THIS IS ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, UH, GET IT FROM THE TAX OFFICE WEBSITE. 
          YOU GET IT FROM THE TAX OFFICE, YOU GET, UH, OFFICE OF THE LITIGATION INFORMATION ABOVE THE DISTRICT OFFICE. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM JEFF BEFORE WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE? JP? GOOD REPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE, UH, DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTION. 
          I'M SORRY, THE, UH, COUNTY JP COLLECTIONS. 
          I GET ABOUT, I THINK EVERYBODY HAS TOP OF THEIR LIST. 
          JUST GAVE THIS TO JUDGE THERE. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM, AND THERE'S ONE JANUARY THROUGH AUGUST AND ONE JANUARY THROUGH SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, LIST, Y'ALL JUST WANT ME TO, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THE JANUARY THROUGH AUGUST. 
          UM, I JUST GAVE IT TO YOU FOR INFORMATION. 
          SO GO. 
          SO IT'D BE CONSISTENT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH JANUARY THROUGH SEPTEMBER. 
          THE, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE, WHEN WE STARTED OFF THE YEAR, THE JPS WERE BACK IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, THEY WERE ABOUT NINE OR 10%, UH, UH, BELOW TWO COLLECTION LEVELS IN 2012. 
          THEY CONTINUE TO BE ABOUT THAT SAME LEVEL. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE, UM, IF THEY NEED ME TO DEFEND THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS, IS THAT, IS IT 2012, WHAT I THINK WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL COLLECTION YEAR IN TERMS OF, WE HAD OUR PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING. 
          THEY WERE, THEY WERE RUNNING FULL SPEED. 
          AND SO THERE PROBABLY WAS SOME, SOME, UH, SOME CATCH UP WORK THAT, THAT ACTUALLY WAS DONE LAST YEAR THAT THAT DID NOT NEED TO BE DONE THIS YEAR. 
          SO THERE WERE SOME EXTRA COLLECTIONS THAT, UH, UH, THAT WERE, THAT OCCURRED IN 2012 THAT HAVE NOT THIS YEAR. 
          AS, AS WE GO THROUGH, AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR, WE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THAT 2011 TO 2013 MORE CLOSELY MATCH UP IN TERMS OF BEING A NORMAL COLLECTION HERE AND NORMAL, NORMAL CYCLE. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M NOT HERE TO DEFEND THE JPS OR ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT THEY'RE QUITE CAPABLE OF TALKING FOR THEMSELVES. 
          BUT THEY CONTINUE TO WORK. 
          THEY, FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, THEY CONTINUE TO WORK HARD. 
          THEY'RE CONTINUE TO, TO, TO FILE CASES. 
          THEY'RE CONTINUE TO WORK CASES, TURN 'EM OVER TO US AT, AT THE APPROPRIATE TIMES. 
          UH, WE THEN WE DIDN'T TAKE THE CASES OFF, DO OUR MAPPINGS, DO OUR PHONE CALLS, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL IN WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          WE ARE, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, JP ONE, UH, IS, IS, UH, 4% AHEAD OF LAST YEAR. 
          UH, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT. 
          AS WE, WE, AS WE KNOW NOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A NEW JP AS OF ABOUT 45 MINUTES AGO. 
          UH, AND I'M SURE SHE'S GONNA HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND KNOW HER STAFF IS READY TO GO. 
          AND SO, UH, I HOPE THAT CONTINUES. 
          THE OTHER JPS ARE, ARE DOWN VARY PERCENTAGES. 
          UH, BUT I STILL THINK, UH, BY THE TIME WE, WE GET OUR SEVERAL NUMBERS IN, WHICH IS TWO MORE MONTHS, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE, UH, WHICH WILL BE THREE MONTHS OUT ON THIS REPORT, TALKS ABOUT, IT'S STILL GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FUNDING, WHICH IS GONNA BE, UH, A PRETTY GOOD, UH, BENEFIT FROM THE COUNTY. 
          UH, I KEEP ADDING, THINK ABOUT THINGS I SHOULD ADD TO THIS REPORT. 
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2010 REPORT WOULD PROBABLY SHOW THAT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, ABOUT 1.6 MILLION. 
          SO IF YOU'RE COLLECTING 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, YOU'RE WAY AHEAD WHERE YOU WERE. 
          AND I THINK THAT IT HAS TO DO WITH A LOT OF THINGS. 
          I WISH I COULD TELL YOU IT WAS ALL MY LAW FIRMS LOT COLLECT FEES, FINES. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S, I THINK THE JPS ARE, ARE DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB WITH REGARD TO MANAGING THE CASE LOADS IN THEIR OFFICES. 
          UH, I, I THINK THEY'RE USING THEIR SOFTWARE EFFECTIVELY. 
          THEY'RE JUST STAYING ON TOP OF THINGS MUCH BETTER. 
          AND IT'S REALLY IMPROVED COLLECTION. 
          WELL, AS WE ALL KNOW, THEY WERE A HUGE PART OF HELPING US GET OUT THE HOLE IN 2011. 
          AND THAT CONTINUED ALONG THAT WAY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO AS FAR AS GETTING US IN THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE BUDGET. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ADDED A FEW MONTHS AGO, WHICH WAS A TOTAL JP COLLECTION, 2011, 13, IT'S NOW UP TO SIX, ALMOST $7 MILLION, $66,964,000. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF, IT'S A LOT OF REVENUE IN, UH, SAID 33 MONTHS. 
          IT'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT THING FOR THE COUNTY. 
          UM, POTENTIALLY TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          THE LAST LITTLE NUMBER THERE, $575,000 IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING WITH THE JET COLLECT. 
          I'M, I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH THAT NUMBER. 
          UH, WE, I HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD STAFF THAT'S WORKING ON THAT. 
          UH, I'VE NEVER MET THEM. 
          I SHOULD BRING THEM UP HERE SOMETIMES THROUGH ALL MEETING THEM. 
          SURE. 
          THEY'RE VERY GOOD. 
          UH, SEAN JAMES DOES A GREAT JOB OF TAKING CARE OF, HE, HE HAS A LANGUAGE. 
          HE SPEAKS, HE, GEORGE MAY BE THE ONLY PERSON IN THE ROOM WHO COULD TALK TO, BUT , HE HAS A LANGUAGE THAT, THAT I CAN'T SPEAK, BUT HE KNOWS HOW TO DO ALL THIS TECHNICAL STUFF AND HE GETS IT ALL DONE. 
          AND SEAN'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES. 
          HE'S GOOD ABOUT COMMUNICATING WITH ME AND I KNOW THAT HE COMMUNICATES WITH HERE. 
          UM, AND PATRICK HAD YOU DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          BUT, UH, THOSE PEOPLE, AND BY THE WAY, I SAY ALL THAT TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT I DON'T DO ANYTHING. 
          I JUST COME UP HERE. 
          Y'ALL SMILE, TELL, I'VE HEARD THAT IT'S TRUE, JUDGE, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, I . 
          BUT, UH, ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ABOUT THIS, UH, FEEL FREE AND I'LL CALL TO GET THE ANSWER FOR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST GOT A COMMENT. 
          IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE, EVERYBODY'S WORKING TOGETHER REALLY WELL AND REALLY PUSHING, UH, GETTING THIS TAKEN CARE OF AND KEEPING IT OUT FRONT. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT MR. SHANE. 
          I THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE, UH, I I, I, I'D LIKE YOU TO SAY THIS, BUT IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD, UH, THING. 
          I, I GUESS BACK IN THE FIRST OF 2011, WE, WE HAD A MEETING IN YOUR OFFICE THE SECOND WEEK. 
          YEAH. 
          HERE, I THINK. 
          AND ALL THE JPS AND SHERIFF AND CONSTABLES ALL CAME TOGETHER AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THIS ISSUE. 
          AND FROM THAT DAY TO THIS, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY PULLING AWAY IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          EVERYBODY'S PULLED AWAY IN THE SAME DIRECTION. 
          IT REALLY WORKED WELL. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN A POSITIVE THING. 
          COMMISSIONER, APPRECIATE YOU, MR. ABSOLUTELY. 
          HAS IT'S BEEN A TEAM EFFORT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          DID THE TIMING OF THESE REPORTED, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE SINCE WE, WE THINK FROM OCTOBER ONE TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, AS OPPOSED FROM JANUARY TO JANUARY? THAT WAY WE CAN KNOW WHERE WE ARE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WHETHER WE ARE WE, ARE WE LOOKING TO PRETTY ROSY ON THESE COLLECTIONS OR WE, WE DOWN ON 'EM SO WE KIND OF ANTICIPATE BUDGETING? IT WOULD, I THINK IT'D HELP US A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          WOULD IT NOT CARRY TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? SO WE, IN BUDGETING FOR NEXT YEAR, WE'LL KNOW A LOT BETTER IDEA. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          I'LL DO IT ANYWAY. 
          ANYWAY. 
          THE COURT DESIRES TO TWIST THE AUDITORS ON. 
          IF BARBARA AND DON'S IN THE ROOM, WE TALK TO BARBARA, SHE'S THE ONE GIVES ME THE NUMBERS AND I'LL GET HER TO DO IT THAT WAY. 
          I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO DO IT OTHER WAY. 
          THAT'S MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR US TOO. 
          . 
          BUT, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THANKS FOR THE REPORT AND UPDATE. 
          IT'S, IT'S GOOD INFORMATION FOR US TO HAVE. 
          APPRECIATE Y'ALL CALL ME ANYTIME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          ALL ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO HEAR FROM PAM CORNER. 
          UH, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR'S COUNTY ESSENTIAL GRANT, $339,918 75 CENTS, WHICH IS FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE OF THE EXTRAORDINARY COST OCCURRED FOR THE INVESTIGATION AND PROSECUTION OF THE CAPITAL MURDER CASES. 
          PAM, I KNOW YOU'RE GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY. 
          YOU, YOU AND THE, UH, OTHER FOLKS THAT WORKED EXTREMELY HARD PULLING ALL THESE COSTS TOGETHER AND FINALLY GOT APPROVAL. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE'RE VERY GLAD THAT WE HAVE VERY PROUD WE 
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ALL WORKED HARD ON IT. 
          UM, THIS IS GOING TO HELP COVER THE COST OF THE MURDER TRIAL. 
          IT'LL HELP PAY FOR THE EARLY STAGES OF THE INVESTIGATION WHILE WE WERE SETTING UP THE COMMAND CENTER. 
          UM, IT WILL ALSO HELP WITH THE JUROR SELECTION, THE COSTS THAT WE WILL INCUR FOR THEM DURING THE TRIAL AND THE SELECTION. 
          IT WILL HELP COVER THE VISITING JUDGES. 
          IT WILL HELP COVER SOME OF THE EXTRA SECURITY CAMERAS RULE A NEED BE NEEDING THE COURT REPORTER PLUS THE TRANSCRIPTS, THE PROSECUTOR AND THE INVESTIGATORS. 
          AND HERE'S, UH, I JUST GOT THESE TO HAND OUT TO YOU THIS MORNING. 
          UH, I SHOULD HAVE ALREADY GIVEN IT TO YOU, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE MURDER GRANT. 
          WE WILL, UM, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, I BELIEVE NOVEMBER 1ST, WE CAN ALREADY START TURNING IN TO RECEIVE SOME OF THE FUNDING. 
          THAT WAS WHAT WE'VE INCURRED, UM, WHEN WE SET UP THE COMMAND CENTER. 
          SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING CLAIMS? THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A HUGE, UH, GRANT FOR US. 
          NOT ONLY THE SIZE OF IT, BUT THE FACT THAT THE, UH, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THE STATE OF TEXAS REALIZED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE, THE UPCOMING TRIALS AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASSIST THE COUNTY IN, UH, PAYING FOR THIS AND AS IT'S ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, IS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, COUNTY ESSENTIALS GRANT, UH, AN EXTRAORDINARY COST. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT. 
          AND, UH, WE SHOULD ADD, UH, PAM HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM AS, AS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE PROSECUTION COMING UP WITH THESE COSTS. 
          AND, UH, THEY DIDN'T APPROVE EVERYTHING RIGHT. 
          THAT WE ASKED FOR. 
          BUT, UH, UH, THEY CERTAINLY, I THINK, HAVE INDICATED THAT THERE ARE OTHER CALLS MUST HAVE PROVEN AND THAT WE CAN SUBMIT AS THINGS COME UP. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S OUR HOPE THAT THIS PART OF IT WILL CARRY US THROUGH THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THE, OF THE TRIAL. 
          YES. 
          AND EVEN WITH REIMBURSES FOR SOME OF THE COSTS THAT WE HAD, UH, THIS LAST BUDGET YEAR AS WELL, UH, IN CHARGE OF, UH, KEEPING UP WITH ALL THE PAM AND, UH, AND KAREN. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'LL, THEY'LL MONITOR THAT. 
          MAKE SURE WHENEVER WE HAVE COST, UH, THAT NEEDED, WE HAVE ATTORNEY, WE HAVE EVERY INVOICE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. 
          SO EVERYTHING IS IN LINE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AS, AS THE CASE PROCEEDS, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE ONGOING COSTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN WE CAN APPLY FOR THOSE AS IF AS NEEDED. 
          AS NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE REIMBURSEMENT COULD BE QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY OR WHATEVER. 
          WELL, ACTUALLY WE FILED THE FINANCIAL STATUS AS QUARTERLY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, KAREN? MM-HMM . 
          SO BE QUARTERLY. 
          THEN IT'LL BE QUARTERLY. 
          THIS, THIS WON'T BE COMMINGLED WITH THE GENERAL FUND. 
          I'M GONNA SET IT UP IN THE WHOLE FUND BY ITSELF, WITH A LINE ITEM TO TRANSFER THE GENERAL TO PAY HIM BACK. 
          THEN THE REST WILL BE CUT FROM THAT, THAT FUND. 
          THAT WAY IT KEEPS IT SEPARATE AND IT'S EASIER TO AUDIT AND FOLLOW. 
          AND THAT'LL MAKE IT A CLEAN, CLEAN AUDIT WILL BE EASIER TO KEEP UP. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I LIKE THAT QUESTION GOING JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE. 
          I, I'VE MESSED UP IN THE PAST THE SINGLE AUDIT REQUIREMENT. 
          WHO DOES THAT? THE SINGLE AUDIT IS YOUR OUTSIDE AUDITORS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE OVER 500,000 THAT YOU RECEIVED IN ONE FISCAL YEAR TO KICK IT OUT. 
          THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT. 
          AND IT'S ALL THE GRANTS COMBINED, NOT JUST ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO AFTER THIS ONE. 
          SO THE FEE WILL GO UP ON THE AUDIT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO A WHOLE SINGLE AUDIT ON JUST THOSE GRANT FUNDS. 
          'CAUSE WHEN I APPLIED FOR A GRANT, I WAS PUT ON THERE. 
          WE WEREN'T, I WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO $500,000, BUT I FELT PRETTY SURE THAT MY PART WAS NOT. 
          BUT I WOULD GUESS ALL THE DEPENDS WITHIN THE COUNTY WAS OVER HALF MILLION. 
          YES. 
          YOU HAVE TO, UH, DO THE AGGREGATE TOTAL. 
          CAN'T BE JUST BY ITSELF. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, ACT ON ITEM NUMBER. 
          UH, SIX MAY ACCEPT OFFICE SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          TOM MADE THE MOTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK SECONDED THE MOTION. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THOSE OPPOSED NUMBER. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA COPIES OF THAT LETTER? I'LL GET IT FOR YOU. 
          I, YEAH, WE, WE, I I'VE GOT ONE 
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AND PAM CAN GET YOU, GET YOU SOME SON TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          AND WE'LL PREFER ANYBODY ELSE IN THE MEDIA THAT WANTS THAT OR ANYBODY FOR THAT MATTER, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, ALSO FROM PAM TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE 20 14 20 17, UH, LOCAL INITIATIVE OF, UH, PROJECT CONTRACT WITH THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY FOR 16,012. 
          GENTLEMEN, THIS IS A FOUR YEAR CONTRACT AND THAT $16,000 IS FOR THE FOUR YEARS. 
          IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT $4,003 PER YEAR. 
          THESE ARE THE FUNDS THAT WE USED RECENTLY FOR THE ADMISSIONS CONTROL PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED WITH OFFICER GAMON. 
          AND, UM, THAT THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SITTING THERE AND WE HAD NOT USED THOSE FUNDS. 
          AND THEN OTHER FUNDS DID NOT DO NOT USE THEIR FUNDS. 
          THEY GO INTO A POOL AND WE CAN APPLY FOR THOSE. 
          SO WE WERE ABLE TO APPLY FOR OTHER FUNDS THIS YEAR. 
          SO OUR HOPES ARE THAT NEXT YEAR WE'LL RECEIVE THAT 4,000, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR MORE FUNDING LIKE WE DID THIS YEAR. 
          THAT'S FOR THAT. 
          UM, WE'RE USING FOR ADMISSIONS CONTROL COUNTER, UM, INSPECTIONS. 
          COUNTERFEIT INSPECTION STICKERS. 
          AND THAT WILL BE SPENT UNDER OFFICER GA'S DIRECTIVE. 
          WHAT WILL HE DO WITH THAT UNIT? WHAT HE PURCHASE EQUIPMENT? WELL, THE NEXT YEAR WE'LL LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR PROGRAM AND THE POSSIBILITIES. 
          IT MIGHT BE EQUIPMENT, THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE MIGHT NEED. 
          COULD IT BE USED FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL OR EDUCATION? IT'S ABOUT THE PROGRAM. 
          SO WE NEED TO BUILD ONTO OUR PROGRAM. 
          UM, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE GET OUT THERE AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE FUNDING FOR THEM IF THEY DO NOT QUALIFY FOR INSPECTION STICKERS, THAT THERE IS AN AREA THAT THEY CAN APPLY AND GET HELP. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA BE MAINLY ABOUT THE EDUCATION. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, THIS GRANT? AND I THINK, UH, AS WE TALKED THE OTHER DAY, I THINK THEY FOUND SOME INTERESTING CASES OR SOME THEY HAVE ALREADY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT HE'S BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD AND HE'S ALREADY FOUND SOME COUNTERFEIT, UH, STATIONS WHO ARE YEAH, THAT'S ON ADMISSIONS OR THE INSPECTION STICKERS STATION STICKER, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH EVERYTHING, YOUR HONOR. 
          PASS THE ADMISSIONS STICKER. 
          AND, AND THE PROBLEM THERE IS IF THEY HAVE A COUNTERFEIT INSPECTION STICKER, THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TRUE INSURANCE. 
          SO THEY'RE A LIABILITY TO EVERYONE OUT ON THE ROAD. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PAM? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACT ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. 
          SO MAY 2ND. 
          COMMISSIONER REMAINING. 
          MAKES THAT MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER LIK SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          DO OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER. 
          THANK YOU, PAM, FOR YOUR WORK ON BOTH THESE, UH, GRANTS. 
          WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, LORETTA WILLIAMS IS, UH, GOING TO COME AND GIVE US A REPORT ON THE, UH, SHELDON SHELTER FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. 
          JUDGE, COMMISSIONER. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, WELL, THIS YEAR HAS BEEN KIND OF OUT OF THE ORDINARY FOR THE PAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS. 
          UH, OUR NUMBERS WERE ALWAYS SPORADIC BECAUSE THIS YEAR THEY'VE BEEN LEANING TOWARD THE FULL SIDE RATHER THAN THE EMPTY SIDE. 
          UM, WE FINISHED THE LAST TWO MONTHS WITH AN AVERAGE OF 13, UM, FOR BOTH MONTHS. 
          AND AN AVERAGE OF 13 IS FOR YEAR. 
          UH, TDF PS ACTUALLY APPROVED A SITE INCREASE FOR OUR PER THIS YEAR. 
          IT'S 1 15 44 TO 1 22 20 DAY, UH, LONG. 
          WE'VE BEEN PRESIDENT AT  RATE SINCE 2004, I THINK. 
          UM, WE DID REPLACE THREE STAFF POSITIONS, UH, THAT HAD BEEN VACATED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          UH, PARTY WANTS TWO OF THOSE. 
          SO WE ARE AGAIN, LOOKING TO FILL SOME VACANT POSITION. 
          UH, THE BOARD DID APPROVE INSTALLING A NEW POSITION ON OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR, WHICH IS A, UH, CAREFUL SUPPORT POSITION FOR THE FRONT OFFICE. 
          UH, MARY AND I HAVE, HAVE HAD TO COVER THAT OVER THE YEARS, JUST DUE TO LACK OF FUNDS TO, TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THERE. 
          UH, BUT I HOPE AS WE GET HER TRAINING, SHE WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF STRESS AND, AND TIME CONSUMING TEDIOUS WORK FOR US. 
          AND SHE IS, SHE IS WORKING OUT REALLY WELL, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HER. 
          UM, THE BOARD DID APPROVE ALLOWING THREE OF MY STAFF TO ATTEND THE STATE TRAINING IN AUGUST THIS YEAR. 
          UH, AGAIN, UH, 
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LAST SEVERAL, UH, BUT WE, WE DID ARRANGE TO HAVE TWO OF OUR FULL-TIME STAFF AND ONE OF OUR PART-TIME STAFF, UH, ATTEND TRAINING IN, IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, OUR PLAYGROUND, OUR PLAYGROUND HAS BEEN, UH, AN ISSUE WITH, WITH OUR T-D-F-P-S, UH, LICENSING WEB, THE, UH, FALLS ZONE AREAS AROUND THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, OUR VERY SPECIFIC, UH, DEATH WITH IN MATERIAL, UH, IN THE, THE WOOD MULCH THAT IS VERY COMMONLY USED IN THOSE PLAYGROUNDS DETERIORATES EVERY YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE SPENDING TWO TO $3,000 A YEAR TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT, UH, DECOMPOSING POSITION. 
          UH, THIS YEAR, UH, WE HAD A, A VERY GENEROUS DONATION FROM, UH, A MEMBER OF OUR OUTSIDE COMMUNITY, UH, WHO PROVIDED FUNDS TO STRIP OUT LEVEL AND REPLACE THE FAL MATERIAL WITH THE CRUSHED RUBBER, UH, WHICH IS WAY MORE EXPENSIVE, UH, BUT IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO DECOMPOSE OR SCATTER. 
          UH, SO WE ARE, WE ARE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF THAT. 
          IT HAD TO REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MEET, UH, SOME DIFFERENCE IN, IN POSITION ON FEDERAL VERSUS P-D-F-P-S REGULATIONS. 
          UH, THAT EFFECTFULLY, ONE OF OUR LOCAL, UH, 5 0 1 C3 AGENCIES PROVIDED WITH FUNDING FROM THE LAST, FOR THE LAST COST THAT CAME UP AFTER THAT. 
          OVERALL, THE, THE REPLACEMENT AND THE RENOVATION WAS ALMOST $20,000. 
          AND IT WAS ALL DONE WITH OUR MAJOR CLAIMS. UH, WE HAD NO MEDICAL EMERGENCIES ALL YEAR. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANYTHING, WHICH IS A GREAT THING THAT MANY KIDS IN A COMBINED AREA ON PLAYGROUND WITH CONCRETE AND LADDERS. 
          AND I NORMALLY EXPECT TO LEAVE SOME BUMPS AND LEY, BUT WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY WITH SHARING IT TO HAVE, UH, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED BOOKING OUR HOME DAY PARTIES, AND I'VE ALREADY BOOKED THREE PARTIES FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER. 
          AND OUR COMMUNITY REALLY STEPS UP FOR CHRISTMAS FOR US, AND KIDS ALWAYS HAVE A GREAT TIME. 
          AND OF COURSE, YOU'RE GONNA ALWAYS BRINGS OUR BUDGET ISSUES INTO PLAY. 
          UH, OUR PER DIEM, IF, IF YOU WILL RECALL, IS ONLY STRUCTURED TO COVER ABOUT 75% OF OUR TOTAL COST. 
          UH, SO THE FOUNDATION HAS ALWAYS STANDS READY TO COVER WHATEVER DEFICIT COMES UP. 
          UH, I'M, I'M EXPERIENCING SOME DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS, IF YOU WILL. 
          UH, SOME PEOPLE ON MY BOARD ARE IN FAVOR OF WAITING UNTIL CLOSE OUT ON, ON OUR BUDGET, UH, BEFORE WE ASK FOR FUNDING TO, TO FLUSH OUR, OUR BUDGET AND OTHERS OPEN, SAY, NO, WE NEED TO DO THAT AS IT COMES UP. 
          THERE'S BEEN AN ONGOING DISCUSSION FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          UH, I WOULD REALLY LIKE YOUR INPUT ON, ON HOW THAT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED. 
          UM, WE, WE EXPECT THAT DEFICIT EVERY YEAR. 
          UH, WE KNOW IT'S COMING, UH, USUALLY ABOUT THE 1ST OF AUGUST. 
          UH, THE YEAR JUST CATCHES UP. 
          UH, BUT KNOWING MEANT THAT 25, ACTUALLY 25% IS GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM, FROM THE FOUNDATION. 
          UH, THE FOUNDATION FAVORS WAIT UNTIL THE END AND LET'S JUST DO ONE CHECK, UH, RATHER THAN TRIPLE IT COMES ALONG. 
          UH, AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS ON HOW THAT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED. 
          SO IF Y'ALL WOULD GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION ON THAT SO I COULD SAY, THIS IS HOW WE NEED TO DO IT, IT WOULD TAKE ME A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE, UH, I ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING, UH, LAST WEEK ON THAT VERY SUBJECT. 
          GOOD. 
          WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE FOUNDATION BOARD AND WITH THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND PURCHASING AGENT AND, UH, JUDGE WHITE. 
          AND SO WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS A RESOLUTION OF THAT, WHAT, HOW IT AFFECTS THE COUNTY. 
          UH, WE WIND UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AND I BELIEVE THIS YEAR WAS 35,000. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT'S RIGHT AT THAT. 
          I DON'T HAVE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, NO, IT'S ABOUT 57,000. 
          HOW MUCH? ABOUT 57,000. 
          57,000 RIGHT NOW. 
          IT INCREASED, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, FOR THE PAYOFF. 
          YES. 
          AND THEY WERE EXPECTING THAT. 
          AND SO WHAT, WHAT HA THIS, UH, 
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THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER IS FUNDED BY, YOU KNOW, THE STATE AND YES, SIR. 
          THROUGH THE FOUNDATION AND FUNDRAISERS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, THAT YOU DO. 
          BUT WHAT'S, WHAT HAPPENED? WE WIND UP PAYING THE BILLS MM-HMM . 
          AS A COUNTY AND WE'RE, WE ARE THE PHYSICAL AGENT, BUT IT IS ALSO, UH, A, UH, WE'RE MORE THAN THAT. 
          IT IS COUNTY OPERATION AND WE DO HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. 
          UH, AND SO WE'VE TALKED WITH THE FOUNDATION AND, AND ACTUALLY I THINK IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. 
          GOOD. 
          AND WE'RE HOPING, I THINK THE FOUNDATION IS MAYBE GONNA START DOING SOMETHING QUARTERLY OR WE WE'RE GONNA START WORKING WITH THEM TO, THE FOUNDATION IS VERY OFTEN TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO BE. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'VE, UH, THEY'VE, UH, MR. HALSEY WAS THERE AND YES, WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING I FELT, AND, UH, I THINK ARE MOVING TOWARDS RESOLVING THAT ISSUE, UH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT WINDS UP BEING, UH, UH, UH, AN INTEREST FREE LOAN THAT WE FLOAT YES, SIR. 
          FOR SOMETIMES TWO OR THREE MONTHS. 
          AND YES, SIR. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD OPERATE. 
          WELL, LIKE I SAY THAT THERE, THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ON, ON HOW THAT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED. 
          UH, AND I'VE BEEN RESPECTING YOU PERSONALLY, SO I, I WASN'T SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THIS WAS JUST LIKE LAST WEDNESDAY OF THURSDAY. 
          WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. 
          I KNEW, I KNEW MR. HALSEY WAS GONNA CALL YOU. 
          I WASN'T AWARE THAT, THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS THERE. 
          THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          IT WON'T BE AN ISSUE. 
          SO IS THAT PER DIE, IS IT PAID ON THE TOTAL DAY SERVICE AND THAT WORD PER MONTH? YES, SIR. 
          THEY PAY, UH, THE PER DIEM ON, ON EVERY CHILD PLACE THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, AND THEY USUALLY DO IT BY THE MONTH. 
          SO IT SAYS TOTAL DAY SERVICE. 
          THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S FOR THE MONTH. 
          THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT THE PER DIEM IS PAID ON? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT WAS IT PER DIEM? UH, THE INCREASE TOOK IT TO 1 22 20 PER DAY. 
          OUR COST FOR LAST YEAR. 
          LAST YEAR OUR PER DIEM WAS WHAT? UH, 1 15 44. 
          AND LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          . 
          OUR TOTAL COST, OUR TOTAL COST WOULD BE HERE LAST YEAR WAS 1 28, 17 SOMETHING A DAY. 
          SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE FUNCTIONING A LITTLE UNDER THAT 25%. 
          UH, WE, WE STRETCH OUR DOLLARS FURTHER IF NO, DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT I THINK IT WAS 16 AND WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY HAVING TO REPLACE ABOUT 16%. 
          SO I THINK WE, WE DO A REALLY GOOD JOB BEING CONSERVATIVE, UH, WITH OUR COSTS. 
          BUT WE, WE DO EXPECT TO HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE TO FUND THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          WHAT'S THE PER DIEM IF THEY'RE PLACED IN FOSTER CARE IN A HOME, PRIVATE HOME? I THINK IT JUST RAISED, IT AVERAGES ABOUT $650 A MONTH IN A BASIC CARE HOME. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KEEP UP WITH THOSE LIKE I SHOULD, BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT ON THAT SIDE, BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT SIX 50 A MONTH AND THEN IT GOES UP FROM THERE DEPENDING ON THE, ON THE ISSUES WITH THE CHILD. 
          SO IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT IF YOU COULD, IF THEY COULD BE PLACED IN A PRIVATE FOSTER HOME AS OPPOSED TO YES, SIR. 
          UH, NORMALLY THE CHILDREN, WE GET, UH, THERE IS ENOUGH HISTORY AND ISSUES THAT THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE PLACING THEM IN A BASIC CARE HOME WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE ASSESSMENTS. 
          UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL RIGHT NOW WHO WE HAVE HAD FOR A LONG TIME, UH, BECAUSE AFTER WE GET THOSE ASSESSMENTS AND THE FOSTER HOMES ARE GOING, NO. 
          UH, SO IT'S JUST, UH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY KNOW UP FRONT BUREAU ISSUES, THEY WANT HAVE A ASSESSMENTS AND HAVE THE RIGHT TYPE OF HOME READY FOR THEM. 
          THEY DO A GOOD JOB DEALING WITH THE KIDS THAT ARE A LITTLE EXTRA HARD TO HANDLE. 
          WE RIGHT NOW THAT I WOULD, THAT I WOULD CLAIM THAT BEFORE, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF BURNING INSIDE. 
          YOU GET 'EM ALL TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT AND WEEKENDS, UH, USUALLY BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR IN THE MORNING. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE WITCH YOU ARE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LORE? MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM PERMISSION SHANE SECOND TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AND THE SECOND COMMISSIONER MANNING ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SAY A A WHAT DO, UH, NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER NINE. 
          IF WE MOVE ALONG. 
          AND THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR OVER THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER WILL BE LAST MONTH OF OUR OLD BUDGET. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          DID YOU HAVE COPIES IN YOUR YOU DID. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UH, WE COLLECTED 
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$37,536 THIS LAST MONTH, UH, TO ROUND OUT OUR YEAR AT 98.19% COLLECTION RATE. 
          AND THAT'S THE SAME COLLECTION RATE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          WE COLLECTED, UH, ALMOST $4,000 THIS MONTH FOR ROAD BRIDGE AND WITH THE SAME PERCENTAGE RATE OF OVERALL COLLECTIONS. 
          ONE THING YOU DON'T SEE IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT CURRENT YEAR IS PUT INTO DELINQUENT, BUT WE DID COLLECT OVER $471,000 IN 20,011 BACK TAXES THIS YEAR. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S A GOOD, UM, AMOUNT. 
          I THINK SOME THAT IS DUE USING THIS STOCK LAW. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, BUT IT HELPS US COLLECT MORE TAXES AND SOMEHOW WHEN THEY CATER THEIR CAR RUSH SHOULD THEY DO COME UP WITH SOME MONEY. 
          SO THAT'S AN ADDITION THAT IT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR COLLECTION ASKED THIS BEFORE DELINQUENT COLLECTIONS, JUST TO COUNT FOR THAT ONE YEAR OR THEY GO BACK SEVERAL YEARS? GO BACK TO 1976. 
          1976 THROUGH 2011, WHICH IS WHY I JUST GAVE YOU THE 2011 NUMBER BECAUSE IT DOESN'T STAND OUT ON THERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE COLLECTED IN THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          WE COLLECTED THAT FOUR SEVEN 1000 JUST OUT OF THE 2011. 
          UH, WHAT IS THESE, UH, ATTORNEY FEE PENALTY AND INTEREST ATTORNEY FEES COLLECTED? IS THAT JUST FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER? YES, THESE ARE MONTHLY. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY DELINQUENT NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEM WITH THROUGH AUTOMATION. 
          WELL, WE DID. 
          OH. 
          DID YOU NOT GET ALL THAT? WE DID GET SOME, UH, WE HAD TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS WITH TRUE AUTOMATION THIS WEEK, WHICH IS WHY I WASN'T SURE YOU HAD 'EM IN YOUR PACKET BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SO. 
          SO IT MAY NOT BE VALID. 
          OKAY, WELL DONE PASS THOSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT REALLY REMARKABLE, THAT 98 OVER 98% COLLECTION. 
          THAT'S JUST GOOD ECONOMY, NOT AS BAD . 
          SO WE'VE COLLECTED TODAY $28,937,824 FOR THIS, UM, YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? TEXAS SUCCESSOR COLLECTION? JEFF MIGHT WORK HIM HIMSELF ABOUT THE JOB, BUT I'M SURE IT'S YOUR JOB TO KEEP GOING. 
          RIGHT ON. 
          I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AS PRESENTED BY MS. RATFORD. 
          SO MAY 2ND. 
          MR. MANNING MAKES A MOTION. 
          AND COMMISSIONER ROSA SECONDS. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? CARRIED. 
          ITEM NUMBER 10. 
          THANK YOU, TANYA. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS FROM THE TREASURER TO PRESENT THE TREASURER'S REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER, 2013. 
          AND THE PARTNER WILL REPORT TO JULY THROUGH, UH, SEPTEMBER, 2013 AND AN INVESTMENT REPORT ENDING SEPTEMBER. 
          MY HERE. 
          YEAH, . 
          ANYWAY, UH, ONE SLOW DOWN. 
          UH, LAST, LAST NOVEMBER WE TOOK ABOUT $2 MILLION IN ACCOUNT, ABOUT 300,004. 
          SO MONEY SHOULD START PRETTY. 
          WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HOLDING EACH ANYBODY GOOD. 
          AND AS WE CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO INCREASE, INCREASE OUR FUND BALANCE, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, UH, UH, PAY OFF FOR US AS WELL. 
          JOHNNY, I THINK WHILE YOU'RE UP HERE AND WE'LL, UH, I'LL JUST ASK YOU TO STAY, I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD TO AND MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 13, UH, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE POSSIBLE NEED OF MEETING MORRISON. 
          WE JUDGES, HE SAID WE SET UP AND WE PAID NOTHING BUT TAKE THE MONEY DOWN SO IT'S WON'T COST ANYTHING. 
          IT JUST, YEARS AGO WE NEVER TOOK ANY MONEY DOWN. 
          IT DIDN'T COST ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS AS FAR THE TREASURER ON, ON ITEM 10 OR 13 ON ITEM 10? WE'LL MOVE THE 13TH. 
          NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT. 
          MR. SHANE, UH, 
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MAKES THAT MOTION. 
          WE HAVE A SECOND. 
          SECOND, MR. MANNING SECOND MOTION. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED BOTH. 
          AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM 13, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY TREASURER TO BORROW IT UP TO $500,000 TO COVER SHORT TERM NEEDS. 
          THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A, FOR JUST A SHORT TERM, UH, LOAN. 
          UH, WE NEED PAYROLL NOW SINCE THE TAX STATEMENTS ARE OUT AND PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO PAY, WE ARE HAVING SOME MONIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING IN, BUT IT BE FOR A FEW WEEKS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T EVEN HAVE TO OR THAT ANY, UH, QUESTION. 
          SO THIS IS STRICTLY, STRICTLY STATING FOR, UH, INSURANCE PURPOSES. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, TO, UH, JUST IN CASE WE HAVE A SHORTFALL, JUST IN CASE IT DOESN'T COST, PARDON ME, DOESN'T COST ANYTHING TO BORROW THE MONEY. 
          UNLESS, UNLESS YOU GO DOWN AND GET IT. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WHAT'S THE RATE, AND THEN WHAT'S THE INTEREST RATE? I JUST WANTED TO GET BACK. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE TAKE IF, UH, OCTOBER IS SAME AS SEPTEMBER, COULD BE LIKE 877,000 WORTH OF INCOME. 
          WE'RE TAKING IN IT. 
          IT SHOULD BE OCTOBER. 
          SHOULD BE UP OVER NINE 50, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          PAST YEARS AS YOU, AS HE SAID, JOHNNY ALWAYS GETS A LITTLE NERVOUS THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, WHENEVER WE TELL OUR TAX MONEY STARTS, UH, COMING IN. 
          I DON'T BLAME, JUDGE WASN'T HERE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          I, I HAD SECOND ON MY DESK, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE BIG DOGS IN BILL. 
          WE COULDN'T BAIL, NERVOUS, NASTY PHONE CALLS. 
          WELL, IT MAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT TO DO BUSINESS, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. 
          ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OF JOHNNY? NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN, UH, A MOTION TO, UH, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY TREASURER TO BORROW UP TO HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO COVER SHORT TERM NEEDS IF NEEDED. 
          NO. 
          . 
          WELL, I'M, ANYBODY GOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ALRIGHT. 
          I NEED IT. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY HAVE TO, SO IF IT IS JUST, IF IT HAS TO BE A HAVE TO SITUATION, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE AUTHORIZED THE DIRECTOR WELL, AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE KIND OF, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A PAYDAY, UH, PAYROLL AHEAD OF US AND I'LL BE ABLE TO PAY OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, WOULD BE AVOIDED. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER CLARK. 
          COMMISSIONER SHANE. 
          SECOND'S. 
          MOTION. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SAY A, A, THOSE YOUR ALL? THANK YOU, JOHNNY. 
          ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS CONSIDER APPROVING LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FROM ACCOUNT, UH, 4 53 DASH 2 9 7. 
          EXTRA HELP WE DO TO LINE ITEM 4 53 1 2, 3 OH SALARY, UH, SECRETARIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,000. 
          AND THIS ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY JUDGE SMITH, WHO IS HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          MORNING. 
          GENTLEMEN. 
          MORNING. 
          I TRY TO BE SPEEDY. 
          I'VE GOT A LOT OF PAPERWORK HERE ON THE 24TH. 
          THE AUDITOR HAD COME BY MY OFFICE AND DROPPED OFF THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. 
          AND, UH, I HAD A LINE ITEM THAT WAS TRANSFERRED FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUDGET THAT I'M LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THIS YEAR OF $6,000. 
          BUT IT WENT IN INTO PART-TIME HELP. 
          SO IT WAS ALREADY BUDGETED FOR A SALARY, UH, FOR SOMEONE TO USE THAT AS A SALARY. 
          I HAD ASKED HER AT THE TIME IF, UH, SHE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A PROBLEM MOVING THAT AND TRANSFERRING IT INTO A LINE ITEM THAT I HAVE NOW AS ARIES AND USING THAT TO HELP A COUPLE OF MY CLERKS OUT. 
          UM, SHE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          I EMAILED JUDGE WOOD AT THE TIME. 
          HE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          UM, AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN IN FAVOR OF, YOU'VE BEEN IN FAVOR, YOU'VE BEEN VOCAL ABOUT DEPARTMENT HEADS BEING ABLE TO USE THEIR MONEY ONCE IT'S BUDGETED, RIGHT? I I THINK YOU WERE AT THE LAST MEETING AS LONG AS WE DID IT LEGALLY. 
          YEAH, WELL, OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UH, UM, I, I DO THINK THE, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR BUDGETS ONCE IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT'S APPROVED. 
          UM, TWO, WELL LET, LET ME FINISH HERE AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. 
          UM, NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS THERE WAS SOME, SOME LAW ISSUES. 
          MAYBE WE WERE RUSHING INTO SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO CHECK ON. 
          SO, UM, I CHECKED, UH, I WAS ASKED TO CHECK WITH JOHN LONG AND, UH, GET HIS OPINION ON, UH, GIVEN A RAISE AFTER 
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THE BUDGET HAD BEEN APPROVED TO, TO ANOTHER CLERK. 
          HE STATED THAT, UH, AS LONG AS YOU CAN LEGITIMATELY SAY THAT SOMEONE IS FULFILLING A DIFFERENT OR MORE DIFFICULT JOB, THEN YOU CAN SAY THEY'RE PERFORMING A DIFFERENT JOB THAN EARLIER THAN THE YEAR EARLIER. 
          SO I WAS ASKED TO FORWARD, UH, UH, JOB DESCRIPTIONS ON TWO CLERKS TO THE HR DEPARTMENT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEIR RESUME NEEDED TO BE UPDATED. 
          UM, EACH CLERK HAS FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          UM, ONE IS A BILINGUAL, UH, WHICH IS HELPING OUT THE OFFICE A LOT. 
          THE OTHER IS MY ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT THAT IS STILL $13,000, UM, MAKING LESS, UH, SHE MAKES $13,000 LESS THAN ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS TO BREAK UP THE $6,000, BUT IT STILL WOULDN'T PUT HER ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE LOWEST PAID ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IN THE COUNTY. 
          UM, SO I FORWARDED THE, UH, THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS IN THE LAST MEETING. 
          UH, I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA AND IT DIDN'T MAKE IT THERE, WHICH IS FINE. 
          UH, BUT I DID WATCH THE TAPE AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE END OF THE, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE END OF THE SESSION THAT WE NEEDED TO GET A LAWYER'S OPINION FROM THE GOVERNMENT CODE ON, UH, IF THIS WAS LEGAL OR NOT. 
          WELL, WE ACTUALLY GOT THAT BACK ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY Y'ALL DIDN'T GET A COPY OF THAT, BUT IT STATES TO JUDGE WOOD FROM JIM ALLISON FROM TAC THAT IN SECTION 1 5 2, UH, 0.011 ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF THE COUNTY SHALL SET THE AMOUNT OF THE COMPENSATION OFFICE AND TRAVEL EXPENSES IN ALL OTHER ALLOWANCES FOR COUNTY AND PRECINCTS OFFICERS EMPLOYEES WHO ARE PAID WHOLLY FROM COUNTY FUNDS. 
          ALTHOUGH I'M AWARE THAT SOME COMMISSIONER'S COURTS HAVE ALLOWED THEIR, ALLOWED OTHER ELECTED OFFICERS TO ADJUST SALARIES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. 
          SUCH PRACTICES VIOLATE THIS PROVISION. 
          IN MY OPINION, NO CHANGE IN THE COMPENSATION OF ANY COUNTY EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE MADE BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR, COUNTY TREASURER UNTIL IT IS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S BOARD. 
          SO IT'S GIVING YOU THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY IS, UH, I HAD A LINE ITEM, UH, OF PART-TIME HELP THAT I WANTED TO PUT BACK IN MY SECRETARY LINE ITEM. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND PART OF WHAT I WAS ASKING TODAY IS TO TAKE THAT $6,000 AND APPROVE IT SO I CAN ADJUST TWO SALARIES. 
          AND ONE IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. 
          WHAT IS THE OTHER POSITION? UM, I HAVE A CLERK THAT'S BEEN THERE THAT'S, UH, DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          SHE'S, UM, BEEN A VERY VITAL, UM, PART OF COLLECTIONS COMING IN THIS YEAR. 
          SHE'S BILINGUAL. 
          UM, SO SHE HANDLES ALL THE, UM, WELL, UH, HISPANIC TRAFFIC THAT COMES IN. 
          I MEAN, OUR CUSTOMERS, IF YOU'RE, AND SHE, AND SHE MESSED OUT ON THE $600 RAISE THIS YEAR BECAUSE SHE HADN'T BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH. 
          SO I WAS GONNA USE SOME OF THE MONEY TO TRY TO HELP HER OUT. 
          IF YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE BEING PAID $13,000 LESS THAN ANYBODY ELSE'S IN THE COUNTY, WELL, UH, WHY DIDN'T YOU BRING THAT UP IN THERE IN THE BUDGET? 'CAUSE WE WERE TOLD, AND, AND I'M GOING JUST THROW MY 2 CENTS IN THIS MORNING, MAYBE THAT'LL HELP YOU. 
          WHAT YOU'RE RUNNING INTO IS COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING A, THEY'RE GETTING A HOLD TO THE BUDGET ONCE IT COMES OUT PUBLIC. 
          SO IF YOU'RE TOLD UPFRONT THAT THERE'S NO NOT GONNA BE ANY RAISES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND THEN EVERYBODY GETS RAISES AND THEY OPEN THE BOOK AND SEE THAT SOMEBODY GOT A RAISE, THEN THEY STARTED GETTING MAD ABOUT IT. 
          OH, I'M WELL AWARE. 
          SO I DIDN'T BRING IT UP BECAUSE I WASN'T GONNA ASK FOR ANYTHING THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS NOT GONNA BE ANY RADIO. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THEN WHEN I HAD THE MONEY PUT IN, I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          IT'S ALREADY BUDGETED. 
          SO THE COUNTY HAD ALREADY BUDGETED, BUDGETED IT, SO I THOUGHT I'D JUST TRY TO USE IT IN MY OFFICE. 
          BUT IF IT'S BUDGETED FOR PART-TIME HELP, UH, OR EXTRA HELP, WHICHEVER LINE IT'S IN, IT SHOULD BE USED FOR EXTRA HELP ON IT, IN MY OPINION. 
          UNLESS Y'ALL VOTE DIFFERENT. 
          WELL, UNLESS THEY VOTE DIFFERENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          IF IT'S, IF IT'S IN THE LINE THAT SAYS, UH, PART-TIME HELP OR EXTRA HELP, THAT'S WHAT I BE USED FOR. 
          NOT FOR, UH, INTER DEPART . 
          I KNOW, UH, GREG, EXCUSE ME, COMING BACK ON BOARD COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THEY, UH, Y'ALL CUT HIM OUT OF ONE EMPLOYEE OVER THERE. 
          SO HE'S WORKING WITH ONE LESS EMPLOYEE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HIS COLLECTIONS ARE FOR THE COUNTY EVERY YEAR, EVERY MONTH, HE HAS NOT SLACKED OFF ONE MINUTE. 
          HIS GIRLS HAVE WORKED HARD FOR 
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HIM. 
          AND, AND I JUST BELIEVE THAT, UH, IF THE AUDITOR'S OKAY WITH THIS AND SHE FIGURES OUT THE SALARIES, I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO LET HIM SPEND HIS BUDGET. 
          LIKE HE WANTS SUSPENDED. 
          WELL, EVERY, EVERY OFFICE IN THE, UH, IN THE COUNTY, UH, WORKS HARD AND DOES A GOOD JOB AT WHAT THEY DO. 
          AND, UH, MY GUYS WORK HARD AND, UH, DO A GOOD JOB AT WHAT THEY DO. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THAT, AND THAT JUST, UH, UH, IS THERE ANY PLAN FOR OUR SALARY SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ON THE SAME LEVEL? WELL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING. 
          WOULDN'T ANYTHING THIS MORNING WE, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH LAURIE ABOUT. 
          UH, AND, UH, WE REALLY DO NEED TO LOOK AT OUR OVERALL SALARY STRUCTURE OR ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UH, AND UH, THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT PROBABLY WOULD ELIMINATE THESE KINDS OF ISSUES FROM, FROM COMING UP. 
          UH, JOHN IS HERE, AND JOHN, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO, UH, ADDRESS THIS AS WELL, JOHN. 
          UH, I DID SEND THAT EMAIL TO JIM ALLISON JUST TO GET ANOTHER OPINION. 
          AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING OBVIOUSLY IS ABIDING BY WHAT JIM OPINION RIGHT. 
          WAS AND IT, I MEAN, THE LAW'S PRETTY PLAIN ON THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UH, MANY OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO MOVE MONEY AROUND, UH, DURING THE COURSE OF A YEAR. 
          SO ONCE WE, UH, WITHOUT COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVAL, I'M, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN, AM I WRONG? UH, KAREN? IT HASN'T HAPPENED SINCE THE NEW BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I, UH, IN THE NEW BUDGET, BUT IN THE OLD BUDGET, YEAH. 
          THAT'S BEFORE PAYROLL CAME TO ME. 
          YES, SIR. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I, I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A COMMON OCCURRENCE, UH, IN ONE DEPARTMENT, UH, WHERE WE LOST AN EMPLOYEE, THAT SALARY WAS DISTRIBUTED, UH, A PORTION OF IT, NOT ALL OF IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO OTHER EMPLOYEES, NOT TO EVERY EMPLOYEE, BUT TO EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEES THERE. 
          SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN, UH, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A NEW OCCURRENCE BY ANY, BY ANY MEANS, THE IMAGINATION. 
          BUT ACCORDING TO MR. ALLISON AND THE EMAIL I GOT BACK FROM HIM, IT DOES TAKE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVAL. 
          AND JOHN, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT, UH, NO. 
          AND, UM, THE THING IS, I WAS SITTING HERE IN, HE QUOTED THE EMAIL THAT I HAD SENT AND I WAS JUST THINKING OF, OF WHY, WHY WOULD I SAY THAT? HOW, HOW WOULD I RECONCILE THAT WITH WHAT JIM SAID? AND JIM'S STATEMENT IS CORRECT, IS THAT THERE'S CERTAIN SITUATIONS IN WHICH, UM, WHICH EMPLOYEES THEIR, THEIR STATUS CHANGES OR THEY TAKING ON SOMETHING MORE OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          AND I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE WITHIN OUR OFFICE, UM, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, SUE COREY, WHO ONLY HANDLES THE APPEALS, UH, CRIMINAL APPEALS, IF, IF SHE WERE TO LEAVE THE OFFICE AND THAT POSITION WERE TO BE VACANT, WERE TO BE ABSORBED BY JAMES, UH, IT ALSO WORKS IN OUR OFFICE, THEN THERE MIGHT BE, UH, A NEED TO GO BACK AND RECALIBRATE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT HE'S MAKING BECAUSE HE NOW HAS ADDITIONAL DUTIES. 
          HE'S NOT QUALIFIED TO DO SOMETHING ADDITIONAL. 
          I, I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT SHE WAS GOING TO BELIEVE SHE'S NOT. 
          BUT JUST A CONSIDERATION LIKE THAT. 
          AND I DID NOT KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF, OF, UH, HOW THE OFFICE WORKS AND, AND WHY THEY WANT TO GIVE THE MONEY. 
          I SAW IT AS IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL QUALIFICATIONS. 
          IF YOU'RE FULFILLING A DIFFERENT ROLE, THEN CERTAINLY AN ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT THEY NEED TO BE FUNDED IN A DIFFERENT MANNER NOW, BUT IT'S JUST THEY NEED MORE MONEY BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE MONEY. 
          I DON'T DOUBT THAT. 
          WE ALL DO. 
          EVERYONE WOULD LIKE THAT . 
          RIGHT. 
          SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY. 
          WE ALL WOULD LIKE MORE MONEY. 
          I THINK THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT, UM, BUT NO, I IF, IF ARE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN, IN THE PAST YEAR THAT THEY'RE NOW EITHER MORE QUALIFIED OR FULFILLING DIFFERENT DUTIES YES. 
          TO YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND IF IN FACT THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I THINK AT LEAST THERE'S AN AN ARGUMENT FOR IT. 
          IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT ON THIS? ALRIGHT. 
          YOU, YOU RAISED THE QUESTION OF WHAT'S THE PRECEDENT? I I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT BECAUSE ARE UNDERSTANDABLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WELL, AND, AND ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND THE QUESTION I GUESS I HAVE IS WHAT IF SOMEBODY DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON, UH, DOES, UH, ASSUME WHAT WORK OR GETS A PROMOTION, DOES THAT MEAN EVERY ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF, UH, UH, BEFORE THE AUDITOR APPROVES THOSE? UH, WILL, WILL THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAVE TO APPROVE EVERY ONE OF THOSE? 
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I DON'T, NO, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T FORESEE THAT, BUT, UH, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WITHIN OUR OFFICE, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE WERE LEGAL SECRETARIES THAT TOOK PARALEGAL TRAINING, RECEIVED CERTIFICATES FOR THAT. 
          THEY, UH, ADDITIONAL DUTIES. 
          SOMETHING THAT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED MIDYEAR OR AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          IT WAS DONE LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          IT WAS DONE LAST FISCAL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, ANOTHER THING YOU GOTTA LOOK AT TOO, WAS THE MONEY ALREADY BUDGETED FOR OR WASN'T? AND IN THIS CASE, IT, IT WAS ALREADY IN THE LINE COST OF THE COUNTY MORE MONEY. 
          BUT AGAIN, I I'M STILL A LITTLE SLOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IF SOMEBODY, LIKE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, LET'S SAY IF THEY HAVE A RODENT RIDGE HAND WHO REALLY DOES OUTSTANDING WORK AND THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE, UH, THAT JOB POSITION TO, TO A HIGHER LEVEL POSITION, UH, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO COME OR ANY DEPARTMENT, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, WHATEVER, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO COME EACH AND EVERY TIME WE DO THAT, UH, TO APPROVE? I MEAN, THAT COULD GET VERY CUMBERSOME TO ME, BUT WE DON'T WANNA VIOLATE THE LAW. 
          SOME, SOME PERSONNEL LINE ITEM. 
          IT WOULD BE LEFT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I DO. 
          AND, AND THEN PROBABLY AN ADDITIONAL CRITERIA. 
          IT IT, IT'S SOMETHING WHERE IN THE ANALYSIS OF THAT IT COULD NOT, SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS OPPONENTS, RIGHT. 
          FOR THE, SO I DO STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT ONCE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR DEPARTMENT HEAD GETS THEIR BUDGET, THEY DO NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY IN, WITHIN THE GUIDELINES, WITHIN THE LAW TO, UH, TO, TO MOVE THAT MONEY AROUND. 
          BECAUSE OUR BUDGET IS AT BEST AN ESTIMATE. 
          I MEAN, WE DO THE VERY BEST JOB WE CAN, BUT WE ALL KNOW PERIODICALLY WE HAVE CHANGES THAT COME UP DURING, UH, YEARS. 
          MINE IS MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE CONCERN OR A MANAGEMENT CONCERN, UH, MORE THAN ANYTHING BECAUSE I, I JUST, I JUST KNOW THAT, UH, I SEE THE PAYROLL SHEETS, I SEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVED FROM ONE POSITION TO ANOTHER OR, UH, MAYBE THEY'RE GIVEN ADDITIONAL DUTIES. 
          I SEE THOSE EVERY MONTH. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THIS HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN. 
          IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY LIKE WHAT JUDGE SMITH IS PROPOSING TO DO, BUT IT DOES, DOES HAPPEN. 
          KAREN, AM I WRONG IN THAT? NO, SIR. 
          BUT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL GETTING A STEP PROGRAM, SOMETHING GOING, BECAUSE THIS IS FIXING TO BACKFIRE BECAUSE I'M BEING TOLD BY MY ASSOCIATION, YOU ADOPTED A BUDGET AND I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING THOSE CHANGES FOR RAISES. 
          THAT'S, AND I WANT HIM TO UNDERSTAND, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET HIS LADIES NOT TO GET A RAISE. 
          I'M TRYING TO DO IT THE LEGAL WAY. 
          AND I'VE BEEN TOLD, DON'T YOU DARE CHANGE THAT, THAT THEY ADOPTED IT LIKE IT IS. 
          AND IT HAS TO STAND UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT VOTES TO, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WASN'T INCLUDED IN PART OF THAT. 
          I HEARD WHAT HE SAID AND IF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED THAT, I WILL DO IT BECAUSE YOU'VE APPROVED IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED SOME KIND OF LAW, SOME KIND OF STEPS BECAUSE YEAH, YOUR BUDGET'S AN ESTIMATE, BUT IT'S A LEGAL DOCUMENT ONCE YOU ADOPT IT. 
          AND I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET IN TROUBLE. 
          I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY WE'RE JUST DOING STUFF BECAUSE WE CAN, 'CAUSE I KNOW SOME DEPARTMENTS LOST THEIR PART-TIME LINE ITEMS, SO THEY CAN'T TAKE IT AND GO GIVE SOME OF THEIR PEOPLE A RAISE. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          WITHOUT COMMISSIONER'S COURT PROOF. 
          YEAH, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          AND I, I MEAN, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT YOU'RE NOW ASKING ME IS THERE A WAY TO TO, TO MAKE THE PROCESS FASTER AND, AND PERHAPS TO ADDRESS IT WITH RIGHT, WITH WITH SOMETHING BY COURT ORDER OR SOMETHING. 
          I I THINK IT WOULDN'T, I THINK YOU'D WANT TO SET PARAMETERS IF IT NEEDS TO MEET COOPERATIVE. 
          SO THE LAWYER, I KNOW I TALKED TO ROCKWELL COUNTY AND THEY HAVE A STEP PROGRAM AS KAREN TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT TO, YOU KNOW, TO GO AND STUDY THAT AND LOOK AT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ALL THE DETAILS ARE ABOUT THAT. 
          SO IF THE COURT DECIDES TO LET, UH, JUDGE SMITH MOVE THIS FROM, UH, UH, PART-TIME TO, INTO A RAY'S POSITION FOR HIS EMPLOYEES AND EVERYBODY THAT HAS A, HAS A PART-TIME HELPLINE AND THEIR BUDGET WILL BE ABLE TO COME RIGHT BACK TO COURT. 
          SO, WELL, YOU KNOW, JUDGE, JUDGE SMITH DID IT. 
          I'VE GOT MONEY IN MY LINE OUTTA 'EM. 
          I WANT TO DO IT TOO. 
          THAT'S BECAUSE MY, MY EMPLOYEES, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE CHANGING JOBS, DOING MORE. 
          I MEAN, I'VE BEEN RUNNING SHORTHANDED EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. 
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YOU KNOW, I, I PICK UP THE SLACK AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MY GUYS HADN'T HAD TO RAISE EXCEPT FOR THE ONE TIME, $500 LAST YEAR, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE $600 THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND, BUT I, I NEED THE HELP. 
          THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT THE PART-TIME LINE IN THERE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I PLAN ON DOING WITH IT. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I JUST KEEP ENCOURAGING MY, MY PEOPLE DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, SAY, WELL, WE'RE WORKING, TRYING TO FIND Y'ALL SOME MORE MONEY, BUT THEN THIS COMES UP, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU GOT PART-TIME HELP LINE. 
          AND THEN IT GOES RIGHT INTO TO GIVING A, A DEPARTMENT A RAISE AND, AND NOT TO SAY ANYTHING BAD AGAINST YOU OR YOUR PEOPLE, JUDGE, BUT, UH, JUDGE ADAMS DOWN THERE, THEY HIT IT EVERY DAY. 
          THEY COME IN, THEY COME IN EARLY AND STAY LATE, STAY THROUGH LUNCH, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO SERVICE THE CUSTOMERS. 
          AND, UH, I JUST GOT, I'VE JUST GOT MAJOR HEARTBURN ON THIS. 
          THERE'S NO EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD ON ANY OF ALL. 
          NO, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE FOR JUDGE ADAMS MAKES, MAKES THE MAP THAT MIKE IS WANTING TO RAISE HIS GIRL UP THERE. 
          SHE'S ALREADY MAKING THAT AMOUNT. 
          THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THOSE GIRLS ARE MAKING IN BETWEEN THERE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE FOUR PRECINCTS. 
          UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, ACTUAL SALARY THAT'S PAID TO OUR ROAD SUPERVISORS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          UH, NOT TO MENTION ANY NAMES, BUT SOME OF 'EM MAKE MORE THAN OTHER ONES DO. 
          WELL, THAT IS A JOB DESCRIPTION THAT SHOULD BE MAKING ALL THE SAME THING. 
          NOW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS GOT IT IN THE JAIL, HAS GOT A GOOD SCENARIO WHERE YOU DO HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, YOU'VE GOT SALARY RANGES FOR THAT JOB DESCRIPTION. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE THIS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US TO GET WHERE WE DO HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION, WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE. 
          AND THEN THE SALARY RANGE WITH A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HIGHS AND THE LOWS THAT JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE IN ONE JOB DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE WORKING AS HARD AS YOU MIGHT BE. 
          WORKING HARDER THAN I AM. 
          AND SO IF OUR SALARY IS BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, 30,030 2000, YOU PROBABLY DESERVE 32,000 AND I ONLY DESERVE 30 EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DOING THE SAME JOB. 
          BUT THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE LEEWAY IN THERE, EACH DEPARTMENT TO GIVE A LITTLE LEEWAY IN THERE TO ACTUALLY PICK OUT WHO'S WORKING, WHO'S NOT WORKING. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, WE DON'T HAVE SALARY RANGES, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT DONE SO THAT WE WON'T, BUT THIS IS GONNA SNOWBALL. 
          I MEAN, YES, SIR. 
          WE'VE ALL GOT THE CALLS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO HURT THE MORALE. 
          AND I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I'VE ALREADY HAD HURT THE MORALE. 
          I'VE ALREADY, EXCUSE ME, I DIDN'T MEAN TO OVERTALK. 
          I'VE ALREADY HAD PEOPLE COME TO THE OFFICE TELLING ME, WELL, I GOT 20 HERE AND NOW I I'M NOT GONNA NEED THAT PART-TIME PERSON. 
          I WANT TO DO THIS. 
          THIS IS A SCENARIO, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED IN THE PAST. 
          I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT. 
          THERE'S PROBABLY MAYBE ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THIS ROOM THAT HASN'T DONE THIS IN THE PAST, AND THAT BE, I BET THAT'S A FAIR ASSUMPTION, BUT JUST 'CAUSE IT DONE IN THE PAST DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RIGHT. 
          BUT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT MIKE IS TRYING TO BRING, IT COULD BE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DONE IN THE PAST, JUST SLIDE UNDERNEATH THE TABLE, LET'S GO WITH IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          HE'S BRINGING IT OUT IN OPEN AND, UH, ALLOWING HIM AND US TO BE, UH, QUESTIONED HEAVILY ABOUT IT, WHICH IS OUR JOB. 
          WELL, THE HR DEPARTMENT, I DO KNOW LORI AND, AND IS WORKING ON THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT AN EASY, I MEAN OH NO, IT'S A, THAT'S A LONG TERM, UH, PROCESS. 
          AND I WOULD IMAGINE WE COULD PROBABLY GET HELP FROM TAG TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ON SETTING UP, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND OUR OTHER COUNTIES LIKE ROCKWALL AND SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT HAVE, UH, THAT HAVE DEVELOPED THEIR OWN PACES. 
          UH, BUT, UH, TOM, I BELIEVE TOM'S OFFICE HAS GOT A JOB DISCUSSION. 
          I I FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          AND MAY I, AND MAYBE BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE, MAYBE WE'D EVEN TRY TO ADOPT THAT UNDER OUR BUDGET TALKS THAT WE DO HAVE. 
          ROAD AND BRIDGE DOES HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS MUCH LIKE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES BECAUSE WE CAN'T TELL THEM TO DO IT IF WE'RE NOT DOING IT. 
          AS FAR AS THE SUPERVISORS GO ON ROAD AND BRIDGE MAKING SOME OF 'EM MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THE OTHERS. 
          SOME OF 'EM BEEN HERE A WHOLE LOT LONGER AND GOT LONGEVITY AND, AND ALL THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE LONGEVITY. 
          THAT'S JUST, THAT'S A STRAIGHT SALARY. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST, I JUST, I'LL JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF OFFICER THAT HAVE THE EXACT SAME PERSONNEL LEVEL IN THERE, LIKE, UH, THE JPS OFFICE, AND THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE SALARIES FOR THE SAME JOB. 
          WELL, PRECINCT ONE AND FOUR HAVE NO EXTRA HELP, YOU KNOW, JPS, SO IT, YOU KNOW, THE TWO AND THREE HAVE A EXTRA HELP LINE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, PRECINCT TWO, MAYBE NEXT WANTING TO TRANSFER THAT. 
          AND HERE ONE, IT'S GONNA OPEN UP A CAN WORM TO, TO MAKE IT EQUAL. 
          BUT IF YOU USE UP YOUR EXTRA HELP STUFF, THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOT GONNA HIRE ANYBODY WHEN YOU NEED SOME 
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HELP. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S HIS JOB TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GONNA BE NOT EVEN ONE MONTH END BUDGET. 
          THEN YOU WIND UP, I'LL JUST CUT OUT. 
          I'LL JUST CUT OUT, JUST START COMING, CUTTING OUT SOME THE STUFF THAT WE, I THINK WHILE I WAS AWARDED THE $6,000 THAT JP GOT CUT OUT AS NUMBER ONE, UH, JP ONE IS BECAUSE WE COLLECTED MOST MONEY, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO USE IT RIGHT THERE. 
          UH, SO THAT'S UP Y'ALL, YOU DO HAVE TWO MAJOR HIGHWAYS RUNNING THROUGH YOUR PRECINCT. 
          YOU APPRECIATE, YOU DO HAVE A LICENSE AND WEIGHT SCALE ON I 20. 
          I'M SURE THAT GENERATES QUITE A BIT, DOESN'T IT? I DIDN'T PUT IT IN MY BUDGET, SO Y'ALL DID. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS COLLECTIONS, YOU HAVE A GREAT AREA TO COLLECT FROM. 
          WELL, I'M, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER BACK ON THE BUDGET. 
          DID YOU REQUEST THE 6,000? OKAY, WELL I'M, KAREN, HELP ME ON THAT. 
          I, I'M KIND OF, BUT I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY NOTES. 
          YEAH, I JUST WOULDN'T HAVE PUT IT OUT IN THERE. 
          OUT OF THE BLUE. 
          YEAH, TWO PRECINCTS HAVE EXTRA, YOU KNOW, TWO DON'T. 
          I'M WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT PRECINCT ONE WAS CUT, THE SIX, I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THAT, THE EXTRA HELP THEY HAD. 
          UH, BUT I DIDN'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY IT GOING, DID YOU HAVE EXTRA HELP LAST YEAR THOUGH? SO IT WAS ADDED, UH, TO VISION AND I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          SO HE, HE DID IN 2011, 12, HE HAD A POSITION THAT HE DID NOT REFILL AND HE GAVE THAT MONEY BACK TO THE COUNTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          I REMEMBER THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I BELIEVE ONE OF HIS POSITION, ONE OF THE THINGS HE WANTS TO DO IS, UH, GO FROM, UH, A HISPANIC SPEAKING ASSISTANT OR CLERK, UH, TO COMPENSATE THEM FOR BE ABLE TO DO THAT, WHICH, UH, BY ANSWERING THE PHONE TO WHERE IT ROLLS OVER IN PRECINCT TWO, A LOT OF THOSE TICKETS COME THROUGH THE JP COURTS OR IN SPANISH. 
          THE QUESTIONS ABOUT 'EM ALL. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THERE THAT CAN SPEAK SPANISH, YOU'RE COUNTY LIMITED. 
          SO, UH, THE OTHER DAY, UH, WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT, OH, YOU TALKING ABOUT GOING IN AND HELPING JOHNNY OUT SPEAK SPANISH? I TAKE THOSE CALLS. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, I QUESTION THAT TRANSLATION. 
          I WHAT'S YOUR PLAYERS, DYLAN? I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE, THE, UH, SITUATION AND THE C CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT WE ALSO PROBABLY UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS AS WELL. 
          HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO ADOPT SOME TYPE OF POLICY, JOB DESCRIPTION? WELL, JOHN, I DON'T, UH, LORI HERE. 
          UH, YOU'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY YOUR TITLE. 
          NO, THAT WOULD BE LAWYERS. 
          BUT I, I, I THINK THAT COULD TAKE A, A WHILE TO WORK THROUGH THAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT, THAT COULD BE SEVERAL MONTHS OF LOOKING AT IT. 
          I MEAN, THINK HOW LONG IT TOOK TO COME UP WITH A PERSONNEL MANUAL. 
          AND I THINK THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONSIDERATION. 
          YOU GOT, SHE COULD COME UP WITH A, A PLAN, BUT THEN SOMETHING OF, OKAY, HOW DO WE MAKE IT EQUAL? THAT'S A HARDER QUESTION. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING I, I THINK WE NEED TO HEAD TOWARDS. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THE ORDER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT TRYING TO GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IS DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY? AND I, I, I I THINK THAT IS, I THINK THAT IS, WE HAVE TO BRAINSTORM ON WHAT THE PARAMETERS WOULD BE THAT, THAT HAS THIS, THIS, AND THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR FEELING ABOUT THAT? WELL, I, I, I WANT TO GO WITH IT BECAUSE I, MIKE HAS COME TO US LIKE, IT SHOULD BE DONE INSTEAD OF DOING IT UNDERNEATH THE, THE, THE RUG AND, AND, UH, PUTTING IT ON US WITHOUT US KNOWING ABOUT IT. 
          I JUST HIRED IT. 
          I LOST ONE EMPLOYEE. 
          I HIRED ANOTHER, ANOTHER EMPLOYEE. 
          I, UH, HE STARTED OFF AT THE, THE LOW RANGES ON MY ROAD BRIDGE. 
          I DIDN'T GIVE HIM WHAT THE OTHER GUY WAS MAKING. 
          WASN'T GONNA DO THAT. 
          AND, UH, LIKE WE DO, A LOT OF TIMES THESE OFFICES, WE HIRE PEOPLE ON AT THE SAME RATE. 
          THE PEOPLE LEFT AT WE, WE DON'T CUT BACK AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE US A LITTLE ROOM FOR RS FOR, UH, LEG. 
          YOUR EMPLOYEES IMPROVE AND YOU BEING ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE THEM DOWN LINE. 
          BUT IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. 
          IS THERE INDEED A 13,000 DIFFERENCE ADMINISTRATIVE, A SYSTEM, NOT SO MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD AS FAR AS JP ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, NOT JP. 
          JP WAS LIKE, 
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BUT ACROSS THE SIX DIFFERENCE. 
          YEAH, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTY, YOUR ASSISTANT, THE JUDGES AND EVERYBODY'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE WAS LOOKING AT. 
          BUT ON THE WORK I SAID, WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP A BIG CAN OF WORMS LOOK LIKE, LOOKED LIKE JP . 
          THEY GO FROM 36 TO 1 9 6 TO S OF 30,000 6 0 4 TO 30 1003 85 TO 34,000 2 71. 
          THERE RANGE. 
          I'D SAY A CLOSE TO 6,000 DIFFERENCE FROM THE HIGHS AND THE LOW. 
          AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. 
          KNOW, BUT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE DOING THE SAME JOBS, WELL, I GUESS, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE, AND THIS IS, THIS IS NOT LONGEVITY, THIS NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT LONGEVITY. 
          JUST EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAD. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, BUT IT'S GONNA CREATE, I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU, IT'S GONNA CREATE A HUGE MORALE PROBLEM ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. 
          I KNOW IF YOU WANT OR NEED TO, UH, WOULD, WOULD ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS BE IF WE KNEW THEY, I NEED FOR YOU TO SELL TO YOUR GIRLS. 
          I'M SURE IF WE KNEW WHEN WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS SALARY AND JOB DESCRIPTION THING, WE GIVE YOU THAT DISCRETION AT THAT TIME. 
          UH, ANOTHER OFFICER WOULD, WE'VE GOT THREE OPTIONS. 
          ONE, WE PROVE IT LIKE IT IS ONE, WE MIGHT WAIT TO GET THE SALARY THING SET AND GO. 
          THE OTHER THING IS THAT MAYBE YOU COULD GET A, UH, A PRETTY GOOD PROMISE, NOTHING THAN WRITING WHATEVER AT THE BUDGET TIME NEXT YEAR THAT WOULDN'T BE APPROVED. 
          WOULD THAT SATISFY YOUR GIRLS? THAT HASN'T WORKED OUT. 
          AIN'T GONNA WORK. 
          THERE'S JUST OPTIONS. 
          YEAH, THEY SAID WE'RE GOOD OPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S YOUR, UH, PLEASURE ON ITEM NUMBER 11? THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST PART. 
          THIS WOULD BE, UH, UH, TRANSFERRING THE, UH, LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FROM EXTRA HELP TO, UH, SALARY FOR SECRETARY. 
          I HAVE A MOTION. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER. 
          UH, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? UH, CLARK. 
          I CAN'T EVER REMEMBER CLARK COMMISSIONER CLARK. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL I'M GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, CAN OF WORMS WERE OPENED UP, HAS ALREADY BEEN OPENED UP IN THE PAST AND PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          I CAN'T SAY THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT, BUT WE DO NEED TO, WE DO NEED TO FIX IT IMMEDIATELY AS WE, AS SOON AS WE CAN. 
          I'D ALMOST LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO SAY THAT, UH, WE GET STARTED ON GETTING A HANDBOOK FOR SALARIES, ALL PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. 
          ALRIGHT? THIS MOTION NOW REMEMBER, IS JUST NOTHING BUT APPROVING THE LINE ITEM ON TRANSFER. 
          AND I, I, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID, BUT THAT'LL BE THIS, THIS NEXT AGENDA, THIS, THIS, UH, MOTION DOES NOTHING BUT MOVE THE MONEY FROM ONE LINE ITEM IN BUDGET. 
          UH, EXTRA HELP TO, UH, THE, UH, UH, SALARY PORTION. 
          SECRETARY. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A AYE. 
          WE HAVE TWO AYES. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SAY NO. 
          NO. 
          I MEAN NO. 
          SAY NO. 
          UH, THE CHAIR VOTES. 
          NO. 
          SO WHO VOTED FOR THE TWO THAT THE TWO THAT, UH, DID THE MOTION TO, UH, AND THE NOS WERE THE OTHERS? ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER, UH, 11, I'M SORRY. 
          ITEM NUMBER 12. 
          UH, IT KIND OF IS MOOT NOW SINCE WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE, UH, TRANSFER. 
          UH, BUT TO DISCUSSING APPROVAL, APPROVAL OF, UH, ABOVE LINE ITEM TRANSFER BY COMMISSIONERS FOR COMPENSATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR TWO EMPLOYEES. 
          UH, JUDGE SMITH HAS GIVEN US HIS, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD THE OTHER DISCUSSION. 
          UH, I DO THINK, UH, UH, THAT, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD IT, WE, WE WILL NEED TO DO A SALARY, UH, STUDY AS WELL AS SOME SORT OF IMPLEMENTATION TO MAKE, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, UH, WORK BETTER FOR US AS A COUNTY IN THE FUTURE. 
          UH, BUT WE DO NEED TO VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 12. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 12 OR DENY ITEM 12? I OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO MOTION. 
          WE DENY ITEM 12. 
          ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION NOT TO APPROVE. 
          ITEM 12. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMM, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSA, ACCEPT ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? 
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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          A COURSE UNANIMOUS ON ITEM NUMBER 12, JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISCUSSION. 
          I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND OUR, OUR DILEMMA. 
          IT'S NOT ANY REFLECTION ON YOU OR YOUR, UH, YOUR LA I GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          LET'S TAKE A, UH, QUICK 10 MINUTE BREAK. 
          WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS. 
          ATTORNEY FEES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I ALL, LET'S SEE HERE. 
          ITEM NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS MORE LINE ITEM TRANSFER. 
          LET'S OVER DOESN'T TAKE IT LONG AS WHAT? I HAVE A OBJECTION. 
          MAYBE IT'LL HELP US. 
          UH, YOU COULD GET MR. JOHN LONG TO WRITE UP A COURT ORDER. 
          THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGREES THAT THERE ARE NO SALARY CHANGES WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL. 
          THAT MIKE HEALTH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE, I THINK THAT'S IN THE LAW. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT HE WAS EXPLAINED TO US. 
          WE WERE, YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE TALKING, WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT, UH, THAT NOBODY COULD DO ANYTHING WITHOUT MR. REPORT. 
          YOU NEED WHAT? I DIDN'T SAY BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME. 
          THOSE SAME PEOPLE WERE GIVEN RAISES LAST YEAR. 
          ONE OF WAS ONE OF EM WAS OTHER ONE, YEAH. 
          THAT SHE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT. 
          I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST DONE AND ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. 
          SO, UH, I'LL GET WITH LORI AND PROBABLY SHE AND I AND DEBBIE WILL SIT DOWN AND HAVE A TALK. 
          SO LORI UNDERSTANDS. 
          YEAH. 
          I PUT NOTHING THROUGH IT. 
          DID I SEND YOU THE EMAIL FROM JIMMA ALLISON? YES, SIR. 
          I GOT A PURCHASE OF THAT. 
          REMEMBER I WAS IN CONFERENCE WHEN YOU GOT THERE. 
          YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. 
          AND I EMAILED YOU BACK AND SAID, YOUR, MY EMAIL DIDN'T DOWNLOAD IT. 
          I CAN'T READ IT. 
          AND THEN EVENTUALLY I GOT IT BACK. 
          I PHONE, PHONE. 
          THAT, THAT, WHAT IS THAT WHAT YOU SAYING? THAT I, WHICH BUTTON TO PUSH ON THE MINE? THIS IS WHAT GETS ME ABOUT THIS, OF COURSE. 
          SECTION 1 5 2 0.011 OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, SAYS THAT OF COURSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN READ TO YOU AND I CAN READ DO YOU AGAIN IF YOU NEED FOR ME TO, BUT THE SECOND LINE IS WHAT JIM SAYS. 
          IT SAYS, ALTHOUGH I'M AWARE THAT SOME COMMISSION OF COURTS HAVE ALLOWED OTHER ELECTED OFFICERS TO ADJUST SALARIES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. 
          SUCH PRACTICE VIOLATES THIS PROVISION. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. 
          I MEAN IT'S, IT'S VERY MUD. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN I TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE IT APPLICATION OF GOVERNMENT THUNDER GROUND FOR REMOVAL FROM OFFICE? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WHEN I WAS PUBLIC COUNTY AUDITOR, IT WAS NOT ALLOWED, UH, AS FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY THAT WAS UNDER TCRS. 
          IT WAS NOT ALLOWED FOR THE TWO CITIES THAT I WAS THE FINANCE OFFICER. 
          IT WAS NOT ALLOWED IF AND, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UNLESS IT WAS A PROMOTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, IT TYPICALLY DIDN'T. 
          BUT YOU HAD A STEP PROGRAM OR SO KIND. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU HAD A GUIDING PLAN. 
          YOU A GUIDING LIKE ENTRY LEVEL, MEDIUM AND HIGH DEPENDING ON THAT PERSON'S EDUCATION, THEIR EXPERIENCE AND BLAH BLAH BLAH. 
          WE NEED TO WORK ON PLAN. 
          I DON'T THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT. 
          I, LIKE I SAID, I'M BEING TRUTHFUL. 
          I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GIVING SOMEBODY A RAISE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO DO IT LEGAL WAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL THE LEGAL WAY WAS COMING HERE BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OR HAVE THIS, THIS DOCUMENT ALREADY APPROVED BY THE'S COURT, WHICH GIVES GUIDANCE ON HOW TO DO THAT. 
          WHICH IS WHAT JIM, JIM SAID THE, WE PUT THAT ON AGENDA. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER THE 2013 LINE ITEMS THAT I WAS SENT TO OUT? UM, THIS IS VE RIGHT? I HAD TO MOVE REQUEST $34,336 FOR INDIGENT HEALTHCARE BECAUSE OUR TRANSFER WASN'T BIG ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THE, UM, ELIGIBLE EXPENSES FOR INDIGENT HEALTHCARE. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGER ITEMS THAT I HAD TO MOVE. 
          AND UH, DID YOU THE ONES OVER 10 GRAND, WOULD THAT BE OKAY? WHAT READ THE ONES OVER 10,000? YES SIR. 
          I CAN DO THAT BECAUSE MOST OF 'EM JUST MINOR. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE MOST OF 'EM ARE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE ACCRUED SIX DAYS OF SALARIES. 
          UH, GOVERNMENT, 
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GENERAL GOVERNMENT 4 0 9. 
          UH, THE ATTORNEY FEE FOR THE 98,000 WAS BECAUSE I MADE THE HUNDRED 5,000 PAYMENT TO DIFFER STAFF FOR THE COMBS CASE. 
          WE AGREED TO CUT THAT 200 SOMETHING THOUSAND INTO TWO PAYMENTS AND I'VE ALREADY PAID THEM ONE IN DECEMBER. 
          I'LL PAY THEM THE REMAINDER OF THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT. 
          THAT'LL BE ALRIGHT. 
          THERE WAS A $35,000, UH, 35, 105 INCREASE TO THE PROSECUTION ON THE JUSTICE OPERATIONS. 
          18,000 THAT I HAD TO WRITE. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS A COURT ORDER SENT TO ME FOR THE DEFENSE ON THE CAPITAL MURDER. 
          I DIDN'T HAVE THOSE COVERED 'CAUSE I WAS WAITING TO GET THE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WANTED TO COVER THOSE. 
          AND HOW I COVERED THOSE IS BECAUSE THE CREDIT FROM Y'ALL'S EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE AND ALL THE OTHER FUNDS THAT I MOVED IN LESS THAN THE EXPENSE OF WHAT I HAD TO PAY BECAUSE Y'ALL JUST RECORDED YOUR FUNDS FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE. 
          SO I HAD EXTRA SITTING THERE. 
          SO I INCREASE THAT LINE ITEM TO COVER SOME OF THESE EXPENSES. 
          OKAY. 
          LET SEE ANYTHING TO ASK. 
          HEARING THE MONEY, WE UH, AND I WE TALKED ABOUT THIS I THINK LAST SESSION. 
          WILL THE EXTERNAL AUDITOR ALLOW THE, THE MURDER GRANT OR THE PROSECUTION GRANT, WILL THEY ALLOW US TO CHARGE THAT BACK OR GIVE IT BACK TO THE WHOLE BUDGET? THE 1213? THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION ON THAT DECISION. 
          THEY JUST AUDITED THAT DID IT CORRECTLY. 
          AND WHY I EXPLAIN DO IT IS SET UP A SEPARATE FUND FOR THIS CAPTAIN MURDER. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S 'CAUSE IT'S A GRANT. 
          GRANT SHOULD BE NOT COING WITH OTHER FUNDS. 
          SO WE CAN TRACK IT. 
          IT'LL BE EASIER. 
          OKAY. 
          DEBBIE CAN RUN A EXPENSE REPORT DETAIL, GIVE IT TO THE AUDITORS AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO. 
          AND ONE OF THE, THE LINE ITEMS, I'LL HAVE TO GET A COPY OF THE BUDGET OF THINGS THAT SHE'S SUBMITTED AND I'LL ADD THAT 35 AND 18 AND GIVE THE GENERAL FUND A TRANSFER OF THE 53 WHATEVER ODD DOLLARS IS THAT. 
          THAT'S MY CONCERN. 
          BUT IT WILL GO IN THIS BUDGET, IN THE NEW BUDGET. 
          IT'LL NOT GO IN THE OLD BUDGET BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CLOSE IT OUT INTO GET THE BOOKS READY SO WE CAN GET THE AUDIT FINISHED. 
          I MEAN I CAN BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. 
          WELL, I MEAN THAT'S FINE. 
          IT'S YOUR, IT'S, IT'S YOUR DECISION. 
          I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          I JUST HAVE TO RECORD IT AS RECEIVABLE BECAUSE I CAN'T GET THE CASH SINCE WE'RE IN OCTOBER LAND. 
          YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? ALRIGHT. 
          BUT WE PAID FOR IT. 
          THE COUNTY PAID FOR IT OUT OF OUR OLD BUDGET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND MY DEAL IS WHEN IF, IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN OUR BOND PROGRAMS, THE HIGHER WE CAN GET OUR BALANCE, BALANCE THE BETTER INTEREST RATE WE GET. 
          SO MAKE A NOTE WHEN I'LL FIX THAT. 
          I'LL HAVE TO RECORD IT AS I RECEIPT. 
          YOU SEE WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING THAT IF, IF IT IS A, AND IT IT IS NOT. 
          IT'S EXTRA. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I MEAN THAT'S 50,000 BUCKS OR SO THAT WE PAY MM-HMM . 
          IF IT'S ALLOWED TO DO THAT. 
          BUT I'M YOU'RE SAYING I CAN RECORD IT AS A RECEIVABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN FIX THAT FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UH, ANOTHER ONE THAT'S OVER 10,000 IS MY SALARY LINE ITEM FOR AUDITOR ASSISTANCE. 
          AND THAT WAS 14,000 909 7. 
          THAT WAS PART OF THE PAYOUT TO LISA SHEARD AND DARLA  WHEN THEY RETIRED. 
          'CAUSE OF THE TIME THEY HAD ON THE BOOKS COMP TIME, IT WAS, UH, COMP TIME, NO VACATION TIME, SICK TIME. 
          AND IF THEY HAD ANY COMP TIME, SICK TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          WE PAID OUT ABOUT, ACCORDING TO THE BOOKS. 
          YES. 
          SO, SO MANY YEARS NOT OWE TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IT. 
          YEAH, NOT ALL OF IT. 
          IT WAS ONLY THE, THE TIME LOTTED BY THE PERSONNEL MANUAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I HAD TO ADJUST GAS AND OIL BY 32,658. 
          UH, MOST OF THEIR, THE CREDIT ALL CAME FROM THEIR DEPUTY LINEUP. 
          SO I, I DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ONE FROM ANOTHER FUND OR ANOTHER ONE. 
          DOES THAT REFLECT ON THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WE, WE WERE 37,000 SHORT LAST YEAR WOULD BE ASSUMING WOULD BE 37,000 SHORT NEXT YEAR? OR DO WE INCREASE THAT? I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          I WE LEFT IT AROUND THE SAME, UH, IN THE JAIL. 
          WE HAD TO INCREASE GROCERIES BY 28,699 IN MEDICAL AND 
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GENERAL EXAMS I HAD TO INCREASE BY 30,808, UH, IN THE CHARITIES POOR AND RELIEF. 
          I HAD TO INCREASE THE 422ND DISTRICT INDIGENT DEFENSE BY 20,000 CPS ATTORNEYS BY 15,918, UH, ON COMPUTER IN THE COMPUTER DEPARTMENT. 
          I HAD TO INCREASE THE FINANCIAL SOFTWARE BY 14 NINE BECAUSE I HAD GAVE IT TO UH, SOME OF IT TO JUDGE, UH, JONES FOR THE ELMO THAT THEY NEEDED IN HIS COURT. 
          AND WE BOUGHT SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES FOR, FOR JACK FOR HIS, UM, INVENTORY PROCESS OF DOING THE BARCODES AND THINGS TO GET THE INVENTORY CORRECTLY. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAD ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR PAYROLL AND FOR HR. 
          SO DID WE BUY, UH, AN MO FOR JUDGE? ALL, ALL FOUR COURTS HAVE IT ON THERE MOST. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAD ONE OUT HERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND JUDGE CHITTY ORDERED THAT TO BE BROUGHT BACK 'CAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT IT BEING MOVED ANYMORE. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS WONDER WONDERING IT WOULD DAMAGE IT. 
          YEAH, I WAS WONDERING THINK, I THINK THAT WAS LIKE $7,500 JACK, 6,500, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY ANYWHERE ELSE, SO I JUST USE SOME OF MINE TO HELP BUY IT FOR THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT IS AN ELMO? AN ELMO IS LIKE THE MONITOR WITH THE RECORDING AND THE SOUND WHERE THEY CAN USE IT FOR THE JURY TO SEE THE TAPES. 
          LIKE THEY GOT STOPPED IN FIGHTS OR DRUNK OR WHATEVER SHOW IT WAS ACTUALLY INVENTED TO IN EL . 
          I, UH, INCREASED. 
          I DON'T THINK I INCREASED THE IN IN THE TRANSFER TO INDIGENT HEALTH, WHICH IS IN FUND 16, BUT IT COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR 34,336. 
          AND THAT WAS TO COVER ALL OF HER, UH, ELIGIBLE EXPENSES WHERE PEOPLE QUALIFIED FOR INDIGENT HEALTH. 
          UM, ARE WE HAVING MORE PEOPLE COME TO THE COUNTY FOR ANCIENT HEALTHCARE NOW? THAT WOULD BE A DESIREE QUESTION. 
          NOT ME. 
          . 
          I THINK THAT'S THE CASE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE USED NOT HARDLY HAVE ANYTHING EVER SHOW UP. 
          YEAH. 
          WE UH, ISN'T THAT RIGHT RAY? WHO THAT OFFICE HAS BEEN DOING GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SHE'S REALLY KEEPING WHAT SHE COULD. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND WE'VE GIVEN HER A NEW TOOL, THIS LEXI NEXUS THING WHERE SHE CAN DO A BETTER JOB KIND LIKE AN ED HAS, YOU KNOW, AND WHERE WELL I WASN'T AT ALL. 
          SHE SAID THERE'S PEOPLE COMING UP NOW REQUESTING CANCER TREATMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, RADIATING CANCER SURGERIES AND APPARENTLY THIS NEW TOOL IS ENABLING HER. 
          YEAH, I THINK SO. 
          YEAH. 
          COULDN'T DENY THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE NEXT BIG THING IS I HAD TO FIX FUND 11 BECAUSE I HAD UH, SET IT UP IN THE WRONG LINE ITEM THAT THIS WAS TO RECORD OUR TAX NOTE THAT WE SOLD FOR THE MILLION FOUR 90 AND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THE TRANSFER HAD PAY BACK. 
          THE GENERAL FUND FOR GETTING THE ARMY FIXED UP READY TO START WAS LIKE 87,000. 
          THEN THEY, THE BOND ISSUE COST WAS 42,000. 
          UM, AND THE NEXT ONE WAS THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND TO INCREASE HER ELIGIBLE EXPENSES UNDER HEALTHCARE. 
          UH, THE NEXT ONE THAT IS KIND OF HUGE IS TO DO WITH THE CHILDCARE SHELTER. 
          AND UH, THEY AT THIS TIME OWE US ABOUT $57,000 AND UH, WE HAD THE MEETING AND THE JUDGE WAS INVOLVED IN IT AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT MONEY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, NOT WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE THIS IS FORCING ME TO APPROVE BILLS THAT THERE'S NO MONEY TO COVER AND I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT. 
          SO I EXPLAINED IT TO THAT FOUNDATION AND THE BOARD AND I THINK NOW THAT THE LIGHTS CAME ON AND THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN'T JUST CONTINUE FLOATING THE MONEY FORM, UM, GENERAL, UH, ROW FUND 27, UH, THIS IS THE TDOT MONEY FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY EXPENSES. 
          I CAN SET IT UP IN A SEPARATE FUND AND THEN TURN AROUND AND DO THE BUDGET FOR THE WRONG FUNDS. 
          SO I'M FIXING THAT FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S MY, MY ERROR. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT PAGE IT'S DOWN THERE IN FUND ONE 18. 
          IT'S CORRECT. 
          CAN YOU GO OVER THAT ONE MORE TIME FOR ME? WHICH ONE? THE MILLION DOLLAR. 
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OKAY. 
          TCO TEXDOT, WE, WE GOT A MILLION DOLLARS FROM THEM LOAN LOAN FOR ALL THE RIGHT OF WAYS FOR THIS 34TH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE HAD DEC SEEDED IT INTO THIS FUND AND THEN RAY HAD SAID, WELL, WE ALREADY HAD A FUND SET UP AND I I FOUND IT AND THEN I BOOKED IT THE WRONG WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WANTED TO GET THAT CORRECT. 
          YES SIR. 
          I JUST MOVED IN. 
          IT FIXED, WE'RE ACTUALLY APPROVED FOR A LOAN UP TO 2.7 OR SOMETHING. 
          WE GET 2.7. 
          YEAH. 
          FORMALLY APPROVED VERBALLY. 
          YEAH, WE, BUT WE'VE GONE A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          DO ALL THE COSTS WE SAID WE WOULD DO AND WE WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT. 
          NOW, YOU KNOW, WE, THE 2.7 YOU PAY INTEREST ON ONE OR NOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE HAVEN'T USED HARDLY ANY OF THIS MILLION DOLLARS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE'RE, WE'RE FIXING. 
          OKAY THEN I HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR 2013 AND IT'S TO DECREASE SOME OF THE, THE REVENUE LINE ITEMS THAT WE CREATED DURING THE YEAR WHEN WE DID THE BUDGET. 
          THIS WAS MAINLY FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENT FROM ALL FOUR ROAD BRIDGES. 
          I'M NOW ING BACK TO OUR INSURANCE EXPENSE LINE ITEM. 
          SO I DON'T NEED THE REVENUE. 
          SO I NEED THAT BUDGET NOW. 
          HOW THE UNFAVORABLE COMES OUT ON THE REVENUE SIDE, TRYING TO GET RID OF SOME OF THOSE SO WE HAVE A MORE FAVORABLE OUTCOME. 
          GOOD. 
          DOES THAT INCREASE, WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE ON NOTHING? YOU'RE STILL BEING CHARGED, CORRECT? I THOUGHT MAYBE WHEN I SAW DECREASE YOU GO WHAT? GIVE US, GIVE US A GRACE PERIOD. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          BUT, UH, COUNTY CLERK, HER FEES CAME IN WAY OVER. 
          SO I'M ADJUSTING THAT BY THE 78 8 45 OFFICE OFFENDER TRANSPORTATION. 
          I INCREASED BY THE 12,167, UH, ESTABLISHING SOME LINE ITEMS FOR SOME MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING TO GET. 
          UH, LIKE IN US MARSHAL THE INSURANCE REIMBURSEMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S GRANT FUNDS JUST TO MAKE THE, THE DEBITS AND CREDITS FOR CUTTING THOSE OTHER LINE ITEMS OUT. 
          DO YOU GOT ANY QUESTION ABOUT THOSE? CHILD SAFETY FEE? CHILD SAFETY FEE IS NOW ON A LIABILITY ACCOUNT. 
          WE SHOULD'VE BEEN LOOKING THAT FOR REVENUES OR IT'S A LIABILITY ONLY MOVE IN THE 10% ADMIN FEE NOW. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT, WHERE DID IT GO TO? IT WENT TO A LIABILITY ACCOUNT ON THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN WE WRITE THE CHECKS OUT. 
          THAT LINE ITEM, WAS THAT A MISCELLANEOUS ACCOUNT? OKAY. 
          YOU NEVER SEE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU ARE ONLY GONNA SEE, I CAN SEE YOU'RE ONLY GONNA SEE THE 10%. 
          IT WIND UP BEING, BECAUSE WE WENT BACK OVER THE FISCAL YEAR AND MADE THEM PAY US BACK FOR COLLECTING ALL THIS. 
          WE GOT LIKE $16,000 USUALLY. 
          I THINK WE BUDGETED LIKE 9,500. 
          IT ALWAYS HAD A BIG DEFICIT AND THAT'S 'CAUSE WE WERE CUTTING CHECKS OUTTA IT. 
          YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. 
          SO WE GOT THAT ALL FIXED. 
          SO WHERE DOES THIS MONEY, UH, WHERE IT REIMBURSED HEALTH REIMBURSED HEALTH INSURANCE FOR ROAD BRIDGE NUMBER FOUR. 
          WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR BUDGET TRANSFERRED TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR INSURANCE, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY REVENUE BECAUSE IT SHOULD GO AGAINST THE BIG 3 MILLION THAT BUDGET. 
          RIGHT. 
          FOR HEALTH INSURANCE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY EXPENSED ON YOUR SIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE GET A, SO THIS WON'T BE COMING OUTTA MY CASH LINE? NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, NO. 
          THIS IS CLEAN UP . 
          YOU BETTER GIMME A HARD FAILURE. 
          UH, WE GET A, UH, WE GET A REPORT FROM PAYROLL THAT DEBBIE RUNS FOR KW TO KNOW WHAT EMPLOYEES WE PAY THE INSURANCE ON. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE I BUDGET 140,000 FOR RAISE AND HE'S GOT 14 EMPLOYEES. 
          SO I KNOW I'M GOING TO GET 10,000 A MONTH OFF OR UNDER SOMETHING. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S PER EMPLOYEE THAT WE PAY THE INSURANCE ON. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A NEW EMPLOYEE THAT'S NOT ELIGIBLE, THEN WE'RE, WE DON'T CHARGE YOU FOR THAT INSURANCE, BUT WE'RE BEING CHARGED OF INSURANCE. 
          YES YOU ARE. 
          IT'S IN YOUR ROAD BRIDGE FUNDS. 
          SO AS FAR AS OUR UM, UPDATE, NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGED ON, ON OUR FINANCIAL. 
          WE PULL OFF. 
          NO, NOT YET. 
          'CAUSE I'VE GOTTA WAIT AND RECALCULATE AFTER WE PUT ALL THIS IN AND PAY THE BILLS. 
          WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS YOUR GOOD ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE TO CARRY FORWARD AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND AMEND YOUR BUDGET FOR 2014. 
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SO YOU HAVE OUR COMMISSIONERS INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, INSURANCE HERE ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SEE, LIKE I DON'T TAKE MINE SO I DON'T TAKE YEAH, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T CHARGE YOUR ON NINE EMPLOYEE EITHER. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT SAID YOU THIS MANY EMPLOYEES, YOU'VE GOT 15 LISTED EMPLOYEES. 
          THERE'S SO MUCH SALARY THAT THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA BE. 
          SO WHAT YOU, YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T PAY FOR IT, THEN IT'S NOT TRANSFERRED FROM YOU. 
          WE DON'T TAKE THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THEN I HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR MS COME IN THAT SOMEBODY FORGOT TO TELL ME ABOUT. 
          I IS IT THE COUNTY JUDGE? YES. 
          IT CAME FROM, UH, TEXAS ENVIRONMENT QUALITY, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. 
          UH, BLAME IT ON FAMILY. 
          YEAH, IT IS, UM, AN LI OR P UH, FROM THROUGH NET COD RIGHT. 
          UH, FOR 35,000 7 0 5 AND IT'S USUALLY JUST AN COME IN AND IT'S A GO OUT. 
          IT'S A PASS THROUGH BUT WE STILL HAVE TO RECORD IT SEPARATE. 
          WELL COME VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, GOT SOMEBODY THAT CAN'T PASS EMISSIONS, THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR A REBOUND ON A NEWER VEHICLE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THEN I HAVE TWO LINE ITEM TRANSFERS TO 2014. 
          ONE IS FOR ROAD BRIDGE ONE, UH, TO INCREASE HIS, UH, CONTRACT LABOR FOR THE ROADSIDE SPRAY AND HE'S TAKING IT FROM HIS, UH, ROAD MATERIALS. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS IN PRECINCT THREE TO UH, GET SOME COMPUTER EQUIPMENT SOFTWARE THAT THEY'VE BEEN MEETING AND HE DECREASED HIS GAS AND OIL. 
          NOW THAT'S THE MONEY YOU, YOU NEED TO RUN ON NINE 2013 EXPENSE REPORT. 
          21 THROUGH 24. 
          OKAY. 
          SIMPLY FOR THE REASON SINCE WE CREDITED ALL THE GAS THAT WAS CHARGED TO YOUR ACCOUNT, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT 2014 'CAUSE THAT'S YOUR GAS IS NOT GONNA SPEND AS MUCH AS YOU'VE GOTTEN IN YOUR BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF WE RENT SEND YOU ONE OF 2013, YOU CAN SEE OH, A BUDGET 130, BUT I ONLY SPENT 89 SO I'VE GOT A FEW BUCKS I CAN MOVE AROUND. 
          SO WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT FOR YOU TOO. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE DUE TO THE GAS CARDS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE. 
          NO, IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE I DON'T RECORD REVENUE COMING FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT COME TO PRECINCT ONE AND CREDITING YOUR GAS EXPENSE LINE ITEM NOW. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT SPENDING AS MUCH ON GAS. 
          Y'ALL PLEDGE IN A HUNDRED SOMETHING THOUSAND BECAUSE YOU WERE HAVING TO COVER EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          HOW ARE WE COMING? YEAH. 
          HAVE COMING ON TWO APART. 
          I GET BACK TOMORROW. 
          WE'LL START ROLLING. 
          CLOSE  PRETTY CLOSE. 
          YEAH. 
          LOT OF WORK TO DO. 
          BET. 
          UM, Y Y'ALL GOTTA REMEMBER Y'ALL MOVED A LOT OF THINGS AROUND. 
          PUT A LOT OF DUTY ON THE PURCHASING AGENT AND THE COUNTY AUDITOR. 
          SO IT'S TAKEN US WHILE TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF GOING. 
          UH, THE TIME CARDS, THE CLOCKS AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          AND YOU FIXING IT TO GIVE LORI ANOTHER PROJECT TO DO, UH, JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND WE NEED TO GET THAT PAYROLL THAT TIMES STUFF DONE BEFORE Y'ALL DO THAT. 
          WE REALLY DO. 
          'CAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ON PEOPLE'S CHECKS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SINCE WE PAID SO MUCH FOR THE MISTAKE, YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH, I KNOW SHE'S WORKING ON THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS. 
          I JUST DON'T, I DON'T THINK SHE'S FINISHED WITH THEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          I WAS LOOKING FOR SEE IF SHE, SHE COULD COME. 
          SHE'S, THAT IS A HUGE JOB. 
          OH IT IS. 
          THAT T IS HAVING A, UH, AN INSURANCE CO-OP, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY CALL IT? YOU KNOW ALL OF THE RISK MANAGEMENT. 
          THEY'RE HAVING A THAT IN SAN MARCOS. 
          WELL, AND THAT HELPS BECAUSE THAT GIVES HER SOME OF THE KNOWLEDGE AND TRAINING SHE NEEDS TO COME BACK AND HELP THE COUNTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S WORTH IT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT IS. 
          AND UH, I, WE STILL HAVEN'T GOT AN OFFICIAL RATE FOR OUR 2014 WORKERS' COMP AND I'M HOPING IT GOES DOWN. 
          I MEAN, WE BUSTED WHAT WE SPENT LAST YEAR AND IT SHOULD GO LOWER. 
          UH, YOU MADE ME CHANGE THAT. 
          YEAH, WELL I, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US. 
          JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU'RE UM, OH, SORRY. 
          I'M GOING TO BILL. 
          Y'ALL HAVEN'T FINISHED ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LINE ITEM? THIS WAS KIND OF AN END OF THE YEAR. 
          THINK THAT WAS AN END OF YEAR CLEANUP? YES SIR. 
          THIS CLEANUP THE 13? YES. 
          AND WILL THE MAY POSSIBLY BE MORE OR WELL IF WE GET ANY BILLS LERS THAT COME IN 
          [02:15:01]
AND WE DON'T HAVE MANY LINE ITEMS, YES, THERE WILL BE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SHALL WE MAKE THIS THIS UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT PART OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER? I THINK IT WOULD BE INCLUDED AS WOULD WE APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER? I THINK IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT. 
          BUT IT DIDN'T HURT TO MAKE THAT AS A MOTION. 
          NO. 
          ARE YOU READY FOR THE MOTION? I'M READY FOR THE MOTION. 
          I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE LINE AND TRANSFERS AND INCLUDED BUDGET AMENDMENT AS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          SHANE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 15 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER P FOR THE BILLS OR 1,000,007 I COMING. 
          I DIDN'T WANT TO BUT WE WAS GOING HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO HAVE TO NOT EVERY COURT I DID YOU GIVE THEM YOUR FOLDER BILL FOLDERS YET? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE A CORRECTION ON MANUAL CHECKS. 
          WE HAVE TWO CHECKS THAT CAME OUT FUNDS AND CAME OUTTA THE WRONG FUNDS. 
          SO WE HAD TO VOID THE CHECKS. 
          BUT Y'ALL HAD PROVEN COURT AND THIS IS THE CORRECTION TO FIX COMING OUT THE RIGHT AND I DIDN'T TELL YOU. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT SIGNED BY KW THOUGH. 
          IT'S I KNOW KAREN COOPER, YOU BLAMING US. 
          YOU COVERED COME AND TOLD YOU MS. PARENT PUT ON THE WRONG FOOT WHEN YOU DO A SHE BLAME THAT ON HE TAKES IT. 
          YEAH, HE DOES MUCH THAT 4 0 9. 
          WHO IS IT? WHO IS KIM TY ASSOCIATES? 4 0 9. 
          YES. 
          SOMETIMES COMMISSION. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU GET GETTING HERE EARLIER. 
          CLEAN COFFEE OR SOMETHING. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD GET PAID MORE THAN I WORKING HARD. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY JUST CURIOUS. 
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I DON'T THE, I REMEMBER WAS THE EXPERT. 
          THIS WAS KIM? YES, IT WAS THE COURT TRANSCRIPTS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M JUST GETTING YOU. 
          THIS GUY HERE, I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS AN I'M. 
          MY HE WAS IN WHERE WAS, WHERE'S THIS GUY SHE GOT, WHERE'S HE CUTTING THESE YARDS AT? HE'S HITTING US FOR ABOUT FROM FOUR 50 TO 550 SERVICES. 
          YOU KNOW, TAKE AAW, CUT DOWN COUPLE LITTLE TREES. 
          WELL ACTUALLY YEAH, A LITTLE, YEAH. 
          ONE PLACE THAT'S ON OUR, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW, RIGHT? YEAH, I'D RATHER DO THAT. 
          CAN YOU PULL THE INVOICE FOR ME? IT'S A VENDOR 35 95. 
          IT'S OFF OF A BID. 
          HAS A BID JACK, WHAT AREAS DOES THAT? MATTHEW ENGLAND MOW. 
          I'M SORRY MATTHEW. 
          PARDON ME? WELL I DIDN'T SAY A WHILE AGO RAY. 
          YOU DID SAY I WAS CONCENTRATING. 
          OH NEVERMIND. 
          KAY. 
          I DO THREE THINGS. 
          IT'S ONLY PRECINCT TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S ALL PRECINCT TOO. 
          JACK THAT OFF TOP SEAT DOESN'T HE ONLY USED CAN VOTE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          NOW THAT'S ONLY HE FOR OTHER THAN 72 WORTH MONEY WORTH, WORTH OF TERM. 
          I LUCK OUT DOWN THERE FOR THAT. 
          I GOT A 13-YEAR-OLD THAT IT YOU? YES. 
          OH NO, I'VE ALREADY LOOKED 
          [02:25:05]
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND HE'S TAKEN, GIVE HIM ANOTHER YEAR AND HE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PLAN. 
          IS THAT MURDER STUFF? 6, 9, 5? NO, JUST LOT, LOT OF TRAINING. 
          THAT'S OUT. 
          FUND 29. 
          UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE PLANNING COURSE FUND 29. 
          REMEMBER THAT TERMINOLOGY? YEAH JUDGE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TELL ANY DIFFERENCE IN OUR LAP BILL SINCE YOU GOT ON THIS NEW ELECTRIC PROGRAM. 
          PAM WORKING UP THE REPORT. 
          YEAH, SHE KIND OF GOT TIED UP IN THIS GRANT, UH, MURDER GRANT. 
          SHE PUT NO FIGURE TOGETHER. 
          SHOULD BE BECAUSE BOY THAT LIGHT TWEAKS IN MY OFFICE. 
          IT'LL TURN THAT YOU'RE SITTING THERE READING OR SOMETHING AND YOU JUST MOVING THE MOUSE GO OFF IN ABOUT 10 TIME. 
          I KNOW IT. 
          I CAN SEE IT BETTER. 
          I CAN SEE THE SCREEN BETTER WHEN THE LIGHTS ON. 
          I JUST SIT THERE IN THE DARK. 
          PUT HAS TWO WIRE WIRE. 
          RIGHT. 
          DID Y'ALL PUT SOME YES. 
          YEAH WE PUT MOST OFFICES. 
          YEAH I WANT TO PUT THEM THERE BUT AT NIGHT I GO AROUND AND DO HALL THREE, FOUR HOURS DOING ANYTHING FOR UP HERERO MY NOTES. 
          WELL WE'VE BEEN BUYING THOSE BUYING BROCO. 
          HE HAD IT IN STOCK. 
          HE WAS COMING THIS WAY. 
          SO LARRY BRING YOU. 
          HUH? LARRY BRING NO, JOE DID. 
          OKAY. 
          BUNCH OF CHURCHES. 
          IT'S AMAZING THOUGH HOW MUCH THOSE CUTTING EDGES SQUARE DOWN. 
          I MEAN THERE WAS, THEY WERE THAT CLOSE TO BEING INTO THE, INTO THE BUCKET KNOW AND THAT ENTIRE PUT THOSE NEW ONES ON. 
          THAT'S HOW YOU PUT THE CROWN IN THAT PARA CROWN IN THE RUG RIGHT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT ON THE LOADER THOUGH. 
          OH YEAH. 
          OTHER WORDS, WHEN THEY PUT THOSE NEW ONES ON THERE, THEY STICK OUT FROM EDGE BLADE ABOUT THAT FAR. 
          BURN OPERATORS HAVE TO GET USED TO DIG A HOLE IN DIGGING CUTTING EDGE ON EVERY TIME. 
          IT MAKES YOU WONDER IF CUTTING EDGE BEEN TURNED ONCE AND THEN WORE OUT AGAIN. 
          IT MAKES YOU WONDER HOW MUCH STEEL'S BEEN TAKEN OFF THE BUCKET WHERE IT ALL ATTACHES ON THE BOTTOM WHERE ALL THOSE TWO PLATES YOU NEED TO, TO PLATE THAT TOO. 
          WHEN THAT PLATE MOSTLY THE PLATES ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BUCKETS ARE ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF EACH STICK ON THE THREE YARD 
          [02:30:01]
LOADER OR SMALLER. 
          IF IT GETS DOWN TO HALF THAT YOU NEED TO REBUILD THE BUCKET. 
          CUT THAT OFF. 
          PUT THREE QUARTER PLATE ON. 
          I THINK THAT DEER'S GOT THAT'S, THAT'S THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THAT BUCKET. 
          IT'S GOT WEAR PLATE IN THERE. 
          WE JUST GOT REPLACEABLE WEAR PLATES ON BOTTOM. 
          I, I'D WEAR SET OF TEETH ON TRACK EVERY TWO MONTHS. 
          GO GET SOME MOREY. 
          LONG, LONG BUY TWO BUY DOZENS. 
          DOES SOME FILTER. 
          DIDN'T GO BACK A WHILE. 
          I I'D SEEN THAT BEFORE. 
          YEAH. 
          Y'ALL TRYING TO GO BACK? NO, I WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE ON THE JUDGE I SAID ANOTHER 4,000 ON INSURANCE. 
          I SAID WE JUST PAID FOR IT A AGO. 
          INSURANCE IS KILLING. 
          ARE YOU SURE? OKAY. 
          THAT SINGLE AUDIT THEY SENT GOT GRANT FORMS AUDIT 500 NOT OVER $500,000. 
          SO I SENT BACK TO THEM. 
          THEY ACCEPTED IT. 
          I GUARANTEE WE WORKED. 
          THE COUNTY WAS ONLY 500 GRAND PROBABLY ON GRANTS. 
          OH YEAH. 
          ALL UP. 
          THE SHERIFF DOES. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT PRETTY QUICK. 
          I'M MAKING SURE UP YOU DIDN'T HE HOTEL BILL? HUH? YOU DIDN'T DO HE HOTEL BILL. 
          I DIDN'T DO IT. 
          MINE TURNED IN HOTEL. 
          I TURNED IN MY I COUNTY PAY THE YOU CLEANING THE FISH. 
          NO. 
          COST ME. 
          'CAUSE I MISS THE MEAL. 
          A PRETTY GOOD ONE TOO. 
          THAT'S BEER TOO BEEN ON THAN ANYBODY. 
          FISH. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          RED FISH. 
          GOOD. 
          A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE HAD RED FISH. 
          SALT WATER. 
          FISH. 
          GREAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK WE NEED TO PLAN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE REDS ARE STILL YEAH. 
          WORKSHOP SPECIAL MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          SPECIAL MEETING WORKSHOP. 
          WELL, SINCE WE CAN'T USE ELECTION, WE HAVE COURT DOWN THERE. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE, WE GET A LITTLE, A LITTLE QUESTION. 
          I'M NOT GOING, HE, HE WON'T EVEN GO WHENEVER IT'S, YOU KNOW, A GOOD REASON TO GO WHENEVER IT'S LEGAL. 
          SO I GOOD. 
          BETTER. 
          GOOD INFORMATION. 
          YEAH, GOOD INFORMATION. 
          WE'RE GOING. 
          NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SOMETIME IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. 
          AND WE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS WE NEED TO PUT ON THERE. 
          SO I'LL MAYBE HOLLER AT Y'ALL TRYING TO GET A DATE WHEN EVERYONE GETS SOMETHING SET UP. 
          I KNOW. 
          IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN MEETING TO DEATH HERE. 
          THAT'S WHAT JOB ALL TOGETHER. 
          IT'S WHAT? IT'S YES, THAT'S FINE. 
          STUCK IN THE POCKET SOMEWHERE. 
          DIDN'T KNOW WHAT DID SHE YEAH. 
          [02:35:09]
IS THE MORNING THERE CORRECTION? THAT ME RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY, THAT'S FINE. 
          WORK FOR KEEPING TRACK OF OUR ROAD EXCEPT REPORT WE HAVE TO DO EVERY JUNE OR WHATEVER. 
          ELLIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAS NEVER DONE THAT. 
          REALLY? I, WE HAD TO DO IT BY LAW. 
          THAT'S WHAT I TOLD 'EM. 
          THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO DO IT BY ENGINEER TOLD HIM THAT BECAUSE THE FIRST THING YOU DO FOR A SERVICE IS YOU OBTAIN THAT ROAD REPORT. 
          THAT'S WHAT HE TALKED ABOUT. 
          SAID WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ONE. 
          WE'VE NEVER DONE ONE. 
          I SAID, HOW DO YOU SET YOUR BUDGET? HE SAID, THAT'S COMMISSIONER. 
          I SAY, A GUY TOLD ME IT'S NOT ILLEGAL UNLESS YOU GET CAUGHT. 
          IS THAT THIS MUST BE A LADY DOWN THERE. 
          WHAT'S A GRAY HEADED GUY THAT, THAT WE TALKED TO DOWN THERE CALLED RON BROWN? YEAH, RON BROWN. 
          THAT MUST BE HIM. 
          WE GOT A LADY, UH, JUDGE OVER THERE, DON'T YOU? YEAH. 
          HAR NOT MARRIED. 
          CAROL, CAROL BUSH CAME BACK MAY THEY DON'T MAKE ME REPRESENT REALLY TO ME LIKE IT BECOME A POLITICAL SUICIDE TO DO THAT ON ABOVE ON THE RTC. 
          REALLY? I DON'T, THOSE COWBOYS BLEW IT HERE. 
          , THEY DIDN'T DESERVE ANYWAY COME OUT. 
          I, I STARTED WATCHING FOR A SECOND. 
          I I WOKE UP ALL OF A SUDDEN NEVERMIND. 
          WOKE UP AND THEY LOSE UP. 
          I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. 
          IT WAS 31 TO 30 WHEN I WOKE UP. 
          I LOOKED AT THAT AND I'M THINKING IT NEEDS REWIND. 
          I NEED THIS ONE CRAZY ABOUT, OH THEY WAS HAVING, HE SHAKING HIS FINGER FACE. 
          EVERYBODY, HIS MAMA BE LUCKY SOMEBODY DON'T BREAK THAT FINGER OFF AND GIVE HIM A LITTLE WORD. 
          I WOULDN'T BE WOULD YOU? I DON'T THINK I WOULD'VE EITHER. 
          WELL I WOULDN'T BE BUTTING HEADS WITH A WATER BOY. 
           ANYTHING. 
          GOT RID AND YOU GOT IT ALL ORDERED THE BIG ORDER. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. 
          NO, WE SHOULD HAVE CAME OUT LAST YEAR. 
          BUT IT WAS A PO. 
          IS SHE FAR? WE DID THE ACROSS AND ONCE WE BOARD THAT WE GOT THE PO AND JUST S OKAY. 
          SHE JUST SAW THE INVOICE DATE PROBABLY AND JUST DIDN'T THINK TO ASK ME OR WELL SHE'S NOT SPEAKING TO ME SINCE I CHEATED LAST WEEK AND I MIGHT CHEW THIS WEEK. 
          'CAUSE I LIKE HER NOT TALKING TO ME. 
          FIVE GRAND. 
          WHAT I DID ARGUED WITH THEM ON THE BILL THAT WE HAD WITH THEM. 
          THEY, AND THAT TOOK PUT IT, WELL THEY STARTED CHANGING PARTS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT. 
          PUMP THE TICKET. 
          SO ANYWAY, THE TICKET WAS LIKE ALMOST $8,000. 
          I GOT 'EM DOWN TO 5,000. 
          JUST REPAIR BILL IN YEAH, IT'S JUST REPAIR BILL, INJECTOR PUMPS, ALL NEW HA HOSES A NEW FUEL CAP. 
          THEY SAID, WELL IT'S A FUEL CAP. 
          THEY BROUGHT ME, BROUGHT OUT A NEW FUEL CAP AND, AND THE GUY HAD SIT OUT THERE, RAY FOR THREE OR FOUR HOURS ON HIS COMPUTER. 
          ACT LIKE HE'S DOING SOMETHING. 
          THEY'RE GOOD AT THAT. 
          AND, AND I, I JUST TOLD THE GUY, I'M NOT AT ALL HAPPY WITH THIS BILL. 
          I SAID, WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. 
          I SAID, 
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UH, Y'ALL COME OUT HERE, YOU JUST PARTS CHANGED UNTIL YOU GOT TO WHERE THE PROBLEM WAS. 
          AND SO ANYWAY, UH, I SAVED US $2,000. 
          I GUESS YOU PAVE A COUPLE ROADS. 
          YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          THAT  NO, NOT OF THAT 20,000, 30,000. 
          OH NO, THAT'S FIXING UP THREE 13 DOWN THERE WHERE THERE WAS SOME SPOTS ON IT THAT WENT BID OFF THAT ROAD THAT I PAVE WHEN I PUT BEFORE I LEFT OFFICE. 
          THAT'S THREE 13 DOWN THROUGH THERE DOWN BY REUNION EDGE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, JC DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS LAST YEAR AND IT WAS ALREADY, IT WAS GOING TO PIECES ON US. 
          WE WAS FIXING LOSE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT IF I DIDN'T FIX IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE WAS BEST TO DO THAT OR SO I SPENT 65,000 ON THAT. 
          I DIDN'T WANT TO, BUT I DID. 
          HOW TIME HAVE YOU BEEN GETTING THAT CRUSHED ASPHALT FROM BIG CITY OR? YEAH, WE HAD IT HAULED WHEN, WHEN THEY HAD SOUTHWEST. 
          COULDN'T GET ANY MATERIAL LAND. 
          UH, SOUTHWEST OVER. 
          YEAH, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE IN THERE. 
          SEE PIT OVER ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILES. 
          THAT REASON I GET BECAUSE I, I'LL HAVE ANOTHER 2 0 5 BACK THERE. 
          THE DITCHES NEED CLEANED OUT. 
          SO, UH, YEAH, WE GOT SOME SERIOUS WORK TO DO ABOUT IT TODAY. 
          WE WAS GONNA GET IT. 
          I WAS TRYING TO SEND Y'ALL TWO FOR THE WORKSHOP. 
          Y'ALL SEND BACK ANYTHING WE ALL NEED TO TALK ABOUT. 
          JUST DO WHAT'S GONNA BE THE MAIN FOCUS OR WELL, JUST SEVERAL HAVE GOT ONE YET. 
          YEAH, THAT LIKE THAT RTCI MEAN NOT THE RTC BUT THAT UH, UH, NET RMA, YOU KNOW THAT THING. 
          THERE'S JUST SEVERAL OUT GOT, UH, KEN'S FOUND A BULLDOZER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT UH, WANNA LOOK AT JUST SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO, WHAT WE GONNA DO? THE BULL, IT'LL HELP US CLEAN UP OUR ROAD. 
          PLUS THE COUNTY WILL HAVE THEM AND, AND THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS LEASE THROUGH AND, UH, GO THAT ROUTE. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          WE LOOKED AT THAT BULL OVER. 
          I DID. 
          I SPENT LOTS OF TIME LOOKING AT THAT BULL OVER AND I WENT AND I JUST SET THE FIRE, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T SEE A PLACE TO USE. 
          THAT'S IT, JUDGE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL, WE HAVE A MOTION TO PAY THE BILLS. 
          SO COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES A MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER AL ACCEPT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. 
          NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          SO MAY. 
          COMMISSIONER MANNY MAKES A MOTION MR. SHANE. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL AYE.
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