* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] TIME TO BEGIN. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING OUR COURT MEETING THIS MORNING. UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, WE HAVE SOME FORMS, UH, OVER ON THE DESK THAT WE WOULD ASK YOU TO COMPLETE IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. AND YOU'LL GIVE THOSE, UH, TO, UH, THE DEPUTY THERE. HE'LL, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET TO US. AND, UH, JUST THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS THE, UH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE COLTON COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. ACTUALLY, A REGULAR MEETING DATE WAS, UH, YESTERDAY, BUT, UH, CAUSE BEING MEMORIAL DAY WE MOVED TO TODAY. AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WOULD, UH, ASK YOU TO STAND. I'VE ASKED COMMISSIONER SHANE TO GIVE THE IN WE'LL FLAG YOU PRAY WITH ME. I MOST GRACIOUS HEAVEN. FATHER, WE ALWAYS COME TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNTY THAT WE LIVE IN. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS US AND OUR ENDEAVORS TODAY, OUR DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE HERE, THAT THEY WILL BE GOOD IN YOUR SIDE. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR SOLDIERS WHO ARE IN HARM'S WAY TO PUT YOUR ARM AROUND AND BRING THEM SAFE. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS US AND BLESS, WE DO AMEN. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS NATION UNDER GOD IN IVIS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE OF ALL ON HONOR THE FLAG I TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE, DO THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE SIGNED UP SPEAKING TO THE COURT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE'LL, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO DISTRIBUTE THIS MORNING. UH, SO WE'LL MOVE INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE COPY OF THAT. THAT INCLUDES ACCEPTANCE OF THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR OCTOBER THE 23RD AND OCTOBER THE 25TH, UH, THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 28TH, 2013. UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING DANNY BAUMGARTNER FIELD LEFT BY RESIGNATION OF, UH, JOE CHALIS ON THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT BOARD NUMBER, UH, NUMBER FOUR BOARD, UH, THAT'S IN PRECINCT FOUR. UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAPPOINTING DR. WILLIAM J FORTNER AS THE LOCAL HEALTH GUARDIAN FOR COUNTY FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, BEGINNING JANUARY THE FIRST OF 2014. UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER ONE. AND, UH, ITEM NUMBER F UH, IT WOULD BE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING SANDRA WILSON, MIKE HANDLER, AND JANICE BURNS TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY CHILDREN'S SHELTER BOARD. GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE OR ANY COMMENTS? I DO. WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. MANNING SECOND ACCEPT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO DISCUSS AND, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION, RECOGNIZING JOSEPH ANTHONY MORGAN ON RECEIVING THE HONOR OF EAGLE SCOUT AWARD. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS IN, UH, JOSEPH IS, UH, IN PRECINCT TWO. THAT'S MR. CLARK'S PRECINCT. AND COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM? WE HAVE A RESOLUTION. AND, UH, JOSEPH, IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND YOUR FAMILY. I THINK THAT BE GOOD. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE RESOLUTION. COMMISSIONER CLARK WILL COME DOWN WITH YOU AND, AND PRESENT, UH, IF HE CAN GET THROUGH THAT. OH, THERE, HE'S, AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING JOSEPH ANTHONY MORGAN ON RECEIVING THE HONOR OF EAGLE SCOUT AWARD. WHEREAS THE FOREMOST RESPONSIBILITY OF AN EAGLE SCOUT IS TO LIVE WITH HONOR TO AN EAGLE SCOUT. HONOR IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL CHARACTERS. HE KNOWS THAT A SCOUT THAT IS TRUSTWORTHY, [00:05:01] IS LOYAL, IS COURAGEOUS, IS CHEERFUL, AND IS HIS RESPONSIBILITY. HIS SERVICE IS VITAL THAT HE SET AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER SCOUTS HONORING HIS HOME, HIS CHURCH, HIS TROOP, AND HIS COMMUNITY. WHEREAS JOSEPH, ANTHONY MORGAN WILL RECEIVE HIS EAGLE SCOUT AWARD FROM BOY SCOUT TROOP NUMBER 3 39 ON DECEMBER 15TH, 2013. THE EAGLE SCOUT AWARD IS THE HIGHEST RANK IN THE BOY SCOUT PROGRAM. WHEREAS JOSEPH, ANTHONY MORGAN IS BEING RECOGNIZED FOR HIS OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AND EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP ABILITY, EVIDENCED BY HIS ATTAINMENT OF THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT. JOSEPH'S EAGLE PROJECT WAS TO BUILD A COMMUNITY GARDEN FOR THE NEEDY OF THE COMMUNITY AT THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. IN 20 THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER OFFERS CONGRATULATIONS AND RECOGNITION FOR DEMONSTRATED UPON CHARACTER, OUTSTANDING CITIZENSHIP AND INVOLVEMENT IN HIS COMMUNITY. HE IS RICHLY DESERVING OF THE RECOGNITION HE HAS RECEIVED AND HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND FELLOW BOY SCOUTS CAN BE PROUD OF HIS DEDICATED SERVICE AND WITNESS. THERE I HERE TO AFFECTS, UH, MY SIGNATURE. THIS IS THE 12TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2013, BRUCE WOOD, TALL COUNTY JUDGE. AND LET'S GIVE, UH, JOSEPH, WE'VE GOT A SHADOW, SIR, TAKE A PICTURE. THANK, THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. GOOD JOB. GOOD. THANK YOU AGAIN. WHAT YOUR NAME. ALRIGHT. UH, I'LL WAIT UNTIL THE COMMISSIONER COMES BACK AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. AND THAT IS A INFORMATION AND A REQUEST FROM AUBREY , I BELIEVE, UH, UH, FROM AN OUTLAW SALOON TO DISCUSS AND, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING A REQUEST FOR LATE HOURS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT IN PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. COMMISSIONER ROSA PRECINCT. AND I'M SORRY, ITEM, DO WE NOT DO THAT? ALRIGHT, I'M SORRY. I NEED MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM THREE, COMMISSIONER CLARK. MR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A OPPOSED? THANK YOU, SIR. MR. CLARK, UH, MS. MCC CRO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS OTHER THAN, UH, WELL, WE'LL LISTEN TO HER PRESENTATION OKAY. AND THEN OFFER QUESTIONS. THE COURT SURE HAS COMMENT. OKAY. YOU'LL JUST SPEAK INTO THIS MICROPHONE AND NO, THAT WORK. RIGHT. THANK FOR I'M, MY HONOR, THIS IS MY GENERAL MANAGER, . OKAY. UM, WE'RE REQUESTING THE TWO PERMIT, UM, FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT REASONS. AT WE ARE A DESTINATION BAR. YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT TO GET TO US. WE'RE NOT JUST, I DRIVE BY PEOPLE COME TO SEE US, TO, TO STAY THERE FOR A WHILE. AND WHEN WE CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT, SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, PEOPLE ARE LEAVING OUR BAR AND GOING TO OTHER BARS. A LOT OF TIMES THEY GO TO MESQUITE OR THEY GO TO TOWN. UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF 'EM SAY THAT IF WE WERE TO STAY UP MAY, THEY WOULD STAY THERE. UM, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP TRACK OF WHAT, WHAT THEIR TAB IS WHEN THEY CLOSE OUT WITH US AND GO ELSEWHERE, START A NEW TAB. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DRANK, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THEY GOT THERE. SO IF THEY'RE WITH US, WE CAN KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF THAT. AND ON TOP OF THAT, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT, UM, THAT COME TO OUR BAR, THEY LIVE WITHIN FIVE TO SEVEN MILES, OUR BAR. SO IF THEY'RE LEAVING, THEY'RE GOING AWAY THROUGH THEIR HOMES, CONSUMING MORE ALCOHOL, THEY HAVE TO DRIVE BACK. WHEREAS IF THEY'RE WITH US, WE CAN CONTROL HOW MUCH THEY'RE DRINKING. WE KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE DRINKING, AND IF THEY DO POSSIBLY BE RIDE HOME, THEY'RE CLOSE BY THAT WE LOCATE, WE DO TAKE CUSTOMERS HOME. MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS, UM, I WOULD SAY 80% OF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE REGULARS THAT WE COME TO KNOW. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GET THEM A RIDE IF THEY NEED ONE OR WE TAKE CARE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT A LOT OF THEM KNOW EACH OTHER, SO WE ALL CARE OF EACH OTHER. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE BARS IN TERRELL SUCH, UH, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO STAY OPEN LATE AS WELL? UM, YES. [00:10:01] TERRELL, ALL THE BARS AND LL CITY LIMITS ARE OPEN UNTIL TWO. MEES ALSO OPEN UNTIL TWO. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ONE DALLAS COUNTY. SO ALSO, SO ALL THE BARS, OUR, YOU KNOW, THAT SURROUND US, YOUR COMPETITORS IN THE AREA. YES, SIR. DISCUSSION, Y'ALL HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE? I SEE NO PROBLEM. COMPETITION, UH, WOULD BE FAIR IF EVERYBODY STAYED OPEN TO THE SAME HOURS, THEY'RE OFF THE BEATEN PATH, SO IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE STOPPING BY SOMEWHERE ELSE. UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER. LIK DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE COMMISSIONERS MOTION? AND FOR THE LAST TIME, DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S MOTION? OKAY. THE MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. SO, UH, YOUR PERMIT REQUEST IS, UH, DENIED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. ALL ITEM NUMBER, UH, FIVE IS HERE FROM JACKIE MORRIS. UH, PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE PUBLIC WORKS REPORT FOR OCTOBER, 2013. GOOD MORNING. FOR OCTOBER, WE HAD ONLY 18 COMMENTS BACK DOWN TO ABOUT AVERAGE FOR THE YEAR, LIKE SEPTEMBER. FOR US FORIC SYSTEMS, WE HAVE 13. ONE WAS A CONVENTIONAL SYSTEM, AND THE OTHER FOUR WERE LOW TURE DOSING SYSTEMS. UH, PRECINCT, PRECINCT ONE HAD TWO, PRECINCT TWO HAD NINE, PRECINCT THREE HAD THREE, AND PRECINCT COURT HAD FOUR. THE COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED. THERE WERE NINE, NINE FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS. THERE WERE THREE EIGHT MALFUNCTIONS AND SEVEN MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS BY PRECINCT. IT WAS PRECINCT ONE HAD 53, PRECINCT TWO HAD 27, PRECINCT THREE HAD 23. AND PRECINCT FOUR HAD 34 CASES FILED FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. WE DID HAVE, UH, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE COMPLY. THEY HAD 39 FILED FOR MALFUNCTIONING. SO WE HAD 25, BUT WE FILED CASES ON, AND THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATIONS WERE 27. AND THOSE WERE SOME HOLDOVERS FROM SEPTEMBER THAT DIDN'T GET FILED IN SEPTEMBER. UH, FOUR CASES BY PRECINCT FILE WERE PRECINCT ONE OVER 22, PRECINCT TWO HAD 10 PRECINCT THREE 12 PRECINCT FOUR HAD 1946. PHYSICAL SITE FOLLOWS, HAD TO GO OUT AND CHECK. OFFICE ADDRESS IS MY PRECINCT. PRECINCT ONE HAD FOUR, TWO HAD FOUR, PRECINCT ROOM HAD 10 PRECINCT, FOUR HAD 16. AND THAT'S A TOTAL OF 34. AND WE STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH COG AND CAN'T GET A RESPONSE FROM THEM AT ALL ON ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. UH, WE'VE COMPLETED ALL THEIR WORK THAT THEY HAD ASKED US TO DO TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE GRANT PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THEM TO SEND SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DO, YET WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE WERE HELPING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OUT WITH THEIR CAD SYSTEM, GETTING THEIR GRIDS. UH, THE BLOCK RANGES DOWN IN THEIR GRIDS THAT THEY DISPATCH BY AND ALSO THEIR DISTRICTS AND BEATS SEPARATED OUT LIKE THEY WANT WORKING WITH SOUTHERN SOFTWARE TO DO THAT. WE SENT THAT OFF FRIDAY. SO THAT SHOULD HELP IMPROVE THEIR DISPATCHING ABILITIES GREATLY. THAT'S NOT ALL WE'VE DONE. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO WITH AS FAR AS, UH, ENCOURAGING COG TO GET BACK WITH US OR COMMUNICATE WITH US? UM, WE'VE SENT SEVERAL EMAILS. UH, ONE PERSON WAS AN INTERN THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH. THE ONLY WAY WE COULD CONTACT HER WAS BY EMAIL. THE GIS SUPERVISOR, MISSY SENT AN EMAIL TO HIM LAST WEEK BECAUSE WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT OUR HUMAN DEVICE THAT WE TAKE OUT. AND ACTUALLY G PS ADDRESSES WITH. I'M STILL AHEAD TO HEAR BACK FROM, MA'AM, I'M GOING TO CALL THE NINE ONE ONE SUPERVISOR TODAY AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. AND IF I CAN'T GET ANY SATISFACTION, THEN YES, LET'S LET KNOW AND, AND SEE WHAT I PERHAPS CALL OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KAY. KIKI, HOW, UH, HOW MANY MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, UH, PROVIDERS ARE THERE IN, IN THE COUNTY? DO YOU KNOW? RIGHT OFF HAND, ROUGHLY? UH, WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS OVERLAP. YEAH, OVERLAP. SO PROBABLY HAVE AROUND 50 MAYBE THAT ARE CONSISTENT IN THE COUNTY. WELL, I JUST, I JUST, THERE'S NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT NUMBER KEEPS GOING UP, GOING UP AND GOING UP. I JUST, UH, THE PROCEDURE THAT WE DO IS TRISHA SENDS OUT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY MONTH FOR [00:15:01] THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT THEIR CONTRACTS ARE EXPIRING, SAY IN OCTOBER, THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER, THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS OF OCTOBER, SHE SENDS OUT A REMINDER THAT ALL THE, THE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE CONTRACTS THAT ARE EXPIRING, WHICH IS ABOUT 500 A MONTH, SHE GENERATES A LETTER, SENDS IT OUT TO THEM. THEY'RE GETTING, UM, PROBABLY SIX TO SEVEN MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS THAT SEND THEM LETTERS TO ON THEIR BUSINESS. AND AT THAT POINT, IF THEY DON'T RENEW WITHIN THE MONTH, THE FOLLOWING MONTH DOWN NOVEMBER, WE THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T RENEW IN OCTOBER. AND BEFORE THE COURT CASE, BEFORE WE SEND THE COMPLAINT TO THE COURT, I ALSO SEND A LETTER OUT TO THE HOMEOWNER LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE FILED THE COURT CASE ON IN. SO THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF NOTICE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THEIR MAINTENANCE PROVIDER THAT'S NOT SENDING THE CONTRACT IN, OR THEY'RE JUST WAITING UNTIL THEY GET THAT COURT SUMMONS TO DO SOMETHING. IT'S BECAUSE WE REALLY, BY THE TIME IT GOES TO COURT, THIS NUMBER, THIS 39 WILL BE DOWN TO MAYBE ABOUT 20. YEAH. THAT ACTUALLY DON'T SHOW UP FOR COURT OR DON'T GET A CONTRACT. YEAH. SO THESE, THESE NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT COMPLAINTS, THEY ORIGINATE FROM YOUR OFFICE. RIGHT. OKAY. AND IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING OVER, AROUND 500 PER MONTH, YEAH, WE HAVE ABOUT 9,500 AEROBIC SYSTEMS. THERE'S A LOT OF PERMITS OUT THERE. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I TAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT HER REPORT. SO MAY COMMISSIONER MANNY MAKES THAT MOTION, MR. MOTION? ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, I SEE I GOT QUESTIONS THIS TIME. DO I KEEPER ON HER WAS LAUGHING. I SAY SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE, SO NOT UNCOMMON. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER SIX FROM PAM CARTER TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE 2014 HOFFMAN COUNTY RESOLUTION INDIGENT DEFENSE GRANT. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. UM, SO THIS IS THE, UH, A YEARLY, UM, RESOLUTION THAT WE SIGN ON THE FORMULA GRANT. THIS GRANT IS AN INDIGENT DEFENSE GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH THE COUNTIES ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE GRANTS FROM THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMM, UH, COMMISSION TO PROVIDE IMPROVEMENT INDIGENT DEFENSE SERVICES IN THE COUNTY. THIS GRANT WILL ASSIST THE COUNTY IN IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE FAIR DEFENSE ACT AND THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE INDIGENT CRIMINAL DEFENSE SERVICES IN THE COUNTY. OKAY. THIS IS OUR STANDARD GRANT THAT WE GET ANNUALLY, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS YEAR THAT THERE MAY BE A LITTLE INCREASE. THERE IS, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE A ONE TIME INCREASE. UM, THE COMMISSION BUDGET IS 35 MILLION FOR THE FORMULA GRANT INSTEAD OF THE REGULAR 20 MILLION THAT WAS BUDGETED. OKAY. SO DIVIDED IN THAT. AND THIS HELPS OFFICE, THIS GRANT HELPS OFFSET THE DEFENSES IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE. AND YES, SIR. IT GOES TO PRIVATE AS WELL. SOME OF THE WILL UHHUH ACCORDING, IS THERE A RATIO THAT IS, SHOULD BE SPLIT OUT OR IS THERE I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER KAREN, BUT I, IT WAS LIKE $108,000 REQUEST TO RECEIVE ON THE TWO EMPLOYEES AND THEIR BENEFITS AND TRAINING AND OFFICE PRODUCTS AND STUFF. SO THIS IS FOR THE COUNTY. YOU USE DIS UH, WE CAN USE THIS FOR THE, IN UH, DEFENSE. THEY, THEY, THEY USE AS IN THEIR DISCRETION WHO OVERSEES WHERE THE MONEY'S DISPERSED AND WHETHER IT'S TO THE POST DEFENDER'S OFFICE OR WHETHER IT'S TO THE PRIVATE LAWYER, IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE. AND Y'ALL CONTROL THE BUDGET FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. YOU SET THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND THE BENEFITS AND WHAT THEY REALLY, YOU HAVE, THERE'S TWO GRANTS INVOLVED HERE. ONE OF THEM, THIS IS THE REGULAR DEFENSE GRANT THAT WE GIVE THAT ALL COUNTIES DISTRIBUTED TO ALL COUNTIES THAT HAS AN IN DEFENSE PROGRAM. AND THEN WE APPLIED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO A SPECIAL GRANT WHICH WAS UTILIZED FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH HEARINGS IN JUDGE CHINEY COURT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECT. AND SO THAT IS NOT THIS GRANT, THIS IS THE REGULAR GRANT THAT EVERY COUNTY [00:20:01] GIVES AND WE DEPOSIT IT INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND IT OFFSETS EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE IN THE INDIGENT DEFENSE, UH, PRO. BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, THE STATE IS GOING TO, UH, INCREASE THAT AMOUNT THAT WE GET THIS YEAR. ONE TIME IT WAS ONE TIME APPROPRIATION AND WE CAN GET THOSE MONEY SOMETIME, I THINK IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY. UH, BUT I'M NOT SURE. I'VE NOT SEEN ANY DOLLAR I YET. IS THAT ONE TIME INCREASE DUE TO WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR? NO, I THINK IT'S STATEWIDE. IT STATEWIDE THAT HAD SO MANY TO APPROPRIATE TO THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES. AND THAT'S, THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MANNING AND JOHN MAY WANT SPEAK UP HERE. WE'RE WE'RE MANDATED BY THE CONSTITUTION TO PROVIDE DEFENSE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN IT. AND, UH, UH, THIS IS THE STATE'S SECRET. IT'S ONE OF THOSE UNFUNDED MANDATES, BUT IT'S PARTIALLY UNFUNDED, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT. JOHN, AM I BEING ACCURATE IN ORDER? I, I, I THINK SO. AND I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSA HAS ASKED QUESTIONS, WHICH I DON'T WANNA SEE IF I'M STATING IT CORRECTLY. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT, IF ANY OF THIS GOES TO, UH, PRIVATE LAWYERS AS COMPARED TO THE PUBLIC? RIGHT. THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF, IF IT'S ANY , I DON'T KNOW. HEARD THAT, BUT I'M JUST NOT, YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? YOU DUNNO THE ANSWER. , I THINK THIS YEAR BY VIRTUE OF THE CAPITAL CASE, THERE'S THREE GROUNDS THAT WE HAVE THERE TOO. WELL, THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. THE, THAT, THAT, THAT ISSUE, YOU HAVE THE ALSO HAVE THE MURDER, YOU KNOW, MURDER INSURANCE. RIGHT. LEAVE WHAT WE CALL IT. SO WE HAVE THAT BRAND AS WELL. SO, AND THIS, THIS DOES GET, AND ON THE INDIGENT DEFENSE FOR TIDC, WE HAVE TO GET UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND BEFORE WE CAN APPLY FOR THAT. SO THERE'S ANOTHER OH, FOR THE DEFENSE MM-HMM . FOR THE OTHER DEFENDANT. YES. RIGHT. THE, THE SECOND DEFENDANT. UH, KAREN, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, COULD YOU MAYBE SEND, UH, IT'S IN OUR BUDGET. I GUESS WE COULD LOOK BUDGET. I THINK IT'LL SHOW WHAT WE BUDGETED TO RECEIVE, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW ACCURATE THAT WILL BE BECAUSE WHEN WE ED THIS, WE WEREN'T SURE, AND STILL TO MY KNOWLEDGE, DON'T HAVE AN ALLOCATION YET ON THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WE'RE BE STATE JUST FOR THE OPERATION. THAT THE FACT THAT, UH, I THINK WE'RE DOING, UH, A REAL GOOD JOB NOW OF SCREENING THOSE THAT DO APPLY. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA AS WELL. OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING THE 2014 KAMAN COUNTY RESOLUTION. ENDED THE DEFENSE GRANT PROGRAM. SO MAY, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK. SECOND MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. NO. OPPOSED? OPPOSED. ALRIGHT, PAM, DON'T SIT DOWN. YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE HERE. UH, THIS IS PAM, UH, HOER TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPOINTING MEMBERS TO A, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, COMMITTEE. AND, UH, PAM MIGHT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY ON THIS. AND, UH, I THINK THAT I JUST KIND OF OPENED A CAN OF WORMS. THIS IS A STRATEGIC PLAN, IS A, UM, IT'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE COUNTY. AND SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD COME UP WITH A MISSION OF WHAT, WHY ARE WE HERE? WHY, WHY IS KAUFMAN COUNTY HERE? WHAT ARE WE HERE TO DO? AND THEN THAT WOULD GO DOWN TO EACH DEPARTMENT. I WAS IN A SESSION, A GRANT SESSION, AND, UM, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR, UM, JUDICIAL FUNDING THAT WILL BE COMING UP IN FEBRUARY THROUGH THE COG. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. WE NEED TO HAVE, THEY USED TO CALL IT A COMMUNITY PLAN. NOW IT'S CALLED A STRATEGIC PLAN. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF PLAN IN PLACE FOR OUR JUDICIAL, UM, SYSTEM HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE WAY WE RUN THINGS. AND SO WHEN HE CAME BACK, I WAS SPEAKING WITH GEORGE AND HE SAID, OH, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT FOR A LONG TIME. AND MR. CLARK HAS SAID THE SAME THING. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF, UM, IF YOU APPROVE THE MEMBERS ON THIS, UM, ON THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, WE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP WITH A MISSION FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY. WE DEFINITELY WILL INVOLVE EVERYONE. BUT JUST TO START OFF WITH THE MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE ON THERE, TO JUST KIND OF GET OUR HEADS TOGETHER OF WHAT WE WANNA DO. NOW ONCE WE DO THE OVERVIEW AND THE MISSION, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE FUNCTION AND THE GOALS FOR EACH COUNTY DEPARTMENT WILL BE. SO THAT'S GONNA TAKE EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES AND COMING UP WITH THEIR GOALS. AND THEIR FUNCTIONS ARE, UM, OUR HOPES ARE THAT THIS WOULD BE A FIVE YEAR PLAN. SO WE CAN SEE WHERE [00:25:01] WE'RE AT NOW AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WHEN WE GET THERE. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO HELP THE HELP KAUFMAN COUNTY CONTINUE ON DOWN THE ROAD AND IMPROVE ITSELF IN FIVE YEARS, WERE YOU ABLE TO CHECK AND SEE IF T HAS ANY TACK HAS NOT CALLED ME BACK AND I'M WAITING ON THE CALL TO ALSO CALL ME BACK. RIGHT. UM, SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND WHAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE. THEY'RE VERY, VERY, UM, THOROUGH. THEY, THEY'RE VERY, VERY BIG AND YOU KNOW, A LOT. INFORMATION COUNTY HAS ONE OF THE BEST AROUND, I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S ABOUT 155 PAGES. SO IT'S HUGE. AND PLUS, I MEAN, SOME OF THOSE, IT'S JUST HUGE. SO SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE EVEN PULLED OUT. UM, DALLAS COUNTY HAS ONE. I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS OUR MISSION AND WHERE ARE WE GOING, WHAT ARE WE DOING AS A COUNTY? AND I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT AND TRYING TO GET THAT IN PLACE. WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT MOST LARGE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, UH, ARE DOING. THEY HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN. MY MY CONCERN IS, IS WE'RE ALL BUSY PEOPLE AND WE REALLY DO NEED SOMEBODY TO HELP US COME IN AND, AND ORGANIZE. AND, AND I KNOW YOU CAN DO A PART OF THAT, BUT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A SIMPLE UNDERTAKING. DALLAS COUNTY HIRED A GROUP TO DO THAT AND I CAN DO SOME RESEARCH AND SEE IF THERE, THERE IS, UM, A GROUP THAT MAYBE TRAVELS AROUND AND HELPS COUNTY DO THIS. I THOUGHT, BUT SURELY THERE'S A TEMPLATE OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN GO BY. BUT I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH SUCCESS THAT HOPEFULLY I KNOW. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY NOT DON'T. AND THE COG AND ALSO THE, UH, TEXAS OR THE URBAN URBAN COUNCIL THING THAT WE BELONG TO, THEY MAY HAVE SOME HELP DO SOMETIMES A THIRD PARTY FACILITATOR HELP MINUTIA. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. IT'S TEACHING TO THEM WHERE IT'S HARD US. BUT YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE INVOLVED TO DO THIS. PULL THE, AND DEFINITELY COMMISSIONERS, IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU GUYS, UM, THE COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE ALSO DOING THIS. SO I MAY RELY, YOU KNOW, BE RELYING ON YOU TO CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS PART OR THIS PART? AND CAN YOU SPREAD THE MESSAGE AND GET THE MESSAGE OUT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL WORK ON IT AND GET IT TOGETHER. TELL ABOUT CHECK WITH DR. CHRIS BOWMAN AT, UH, TEXAS EXTENSION SERVICE. OKAY. HE'S THERE GIVEN SEVERAL, UH, CLASSES ON STRATEGIC PLANNING. VERY GOOD. OKAY. AND SO HE PROBABLY NOT GIVE YOU SOME KIND OF A GUIDELINE, DO A INTERNSHIP ON THIS FOR US IS, IS A IS TO HELP US AND THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH. WITH THE TRINITY VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE MAY HAVE SOMEBODY TOO THAT CAN COME IN AND HELP. OKAY. UH, BUT REALLY I THINK BETTER FIND SOMEBODY THAT'S PRETTY KNOW ABOUT COUNTIES, THAT LOGICAL THING. BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S GEORGE. WOULD THIS KIND OF BOILED INTO A LITTLE BIT OF OUR CONTINU OF OPERATIONS PLAN WE NEVER HAVE. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE POINT WE TRIED TO MAKE A WHILE AGO WAS BEFORE THESE OTHER THINGS WHICH ARE OFFSHOOTS OF THE OVERARCHING POLICY OF THE COUNTY. THAT HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST. THEN WE DO BUSINESS CONTINUITY, THEN WE DO ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT FALL UNDER IT. YOU KNOW, WE JUST WON THAT, UH, THAT NEW THING FOR THE ROADS. YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS DOING ALL ITS WORK ON THE ROADS, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING THE COUNTY ROAD. THAT WOULD ALL BE PART OF IT. YOU KNOW, IT IS INFORMATION THAT YOU AND I HAVE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SOMEWHERE THAT ANOTHER COUNTY HAS. IT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU CREATE FROM THAT. YOU DEVELOP ALL THE INNER PARTS. WHILE IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A FACILITATOR IS WE CAN'T RELY ON SOMEONE ELSE OUT HERE, DO IT. WE NEED TO DO IT. AND EVERYONE ELSE, EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS. AND YOU KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE, ALL YOUR THOUGHTS AND NEED TO PUT ON PAPER FOR OUR TAXPAYERS, OUR VOTERS TO SEE IT. SO THEY CAN GO TO OUR COUNTY WEBSITE AND SEE THAT THIS BODY WANTS ROADS, THEY WANT TO WHATEVER THEY WANT. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO, AND THEN AFTER WE DEVELOP, PART OF THAT IS THE FOUR YEAR PLAN FOR OUR BUSINESS CONTINUITY. AN IT PLAN, A WHATEVER PLAN. BUT THIS BOIL PLATE, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE. YEAH, WE CAN USE THE FACILITATOR. IT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WANT. NOT WHAT ANYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT WANT TO WANT. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S MY CENTS. BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE USED TO PRECEPT WHEN I WAS MODEL, WE WENT AROUND TO OTHER COUNTIES AND WE WOULD DO IT ASSESSMENTS. AND PART OF WHAT [00:30:01] WE TRY TO GET THE COUNTY TO DO WAS TO DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN, THEN DEVELOP ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. AND, UH, WE'VE JUST BEEN SO BUSY WITH ALL ACTIVITY. NOT DONE THAT GOOD IS FOR PAM. SHE HAS A A REASON TO GET, GET GOING ON. SO. WELL, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN'T APPLY FOR GRANT. SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD INCENTIVE. I THINK MIGHT, MIGHT NOT GET SOMETHING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED THIS. SO, OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONSIDER. WE NEED TO NAME THIS MEETING. UH, WELL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT I BELIEVE HAVE ALL BEEN CONTACTED THAT HAVE AGREED TO SERVE, UH, MYSELF, UH, GEORGE YORK, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK, UH, BRIAN BEAVER, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. LISA CALLAHAN FROM THE FIRST DEPARTMENT, LLOYD FLOYD, HUMAN RESOURCE AND, UH, PROJECT MANAGER, PAM PORTER. NOW WE CAN ADD OTHER PEOPLE TO THIS. IF ANYBODY, IF YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE YOU WANNA ADD, COULD IT, UH, IN FACT, SOMEBODY CAN TAKE MY PLACE. . WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS I THOUGHT IF YOU THESE PEOPLE ONE PLACE, EVERYONE'S GONNA BE INVOLVED. EVERYONE'S GONNA BE INVOLVED. AT LEAST WE CAN HAVE A MEETING AND BRAINSTORM ABOUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEP IS AND THEN TAKE THAT INFORMATION. THIS IS GONNA BE STEERING COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE WE GET INVOLVED ROLLING. AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO WANT THIS COMMITTEE SEE THE COMMISSIONERS LOOP. ABSOLUTELY. THE, THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T PUT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ON OR DIDN'T ASK ALL THE COMMISSION IS BECAUSE OF THE 72 HOUR, YOU KNOW, MEETING, YOU KNOW, THAT CUMBERSOME, UH, NOT, DON'T DO ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE NOT PROPER. BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON WE HAVE A MOTION FROM UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER MANNING. UH, I A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A. NO PROBLEMS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MA'AM. WORK ON THIS. I'M GOING TO SKIP TO ITEM NINE. JOHNNY, UH, COUNTRYMAN IS HERE TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION, EXCUSE ME, AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE TO THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL, TEXAS POOL. JOHNNY'S GOT A MEETING, HE'S GOT TO ATTEND HERE IN A LITTLE BIT AND I THOUGHT I'D GO AHEAD AND MOVE HIM UP SO WE DON'T PACK HIM UP. THIS IS JUST, WE'RE NOT USING TEXT NOW, BUT TIME JUST TO TAKE DIANA, EARN TO RETIRE OFF WITH CAROL. OKAY. UH, SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING, UH, THIS CHANGE FROM DIANA TO CAROL THAT YOU EMPLOYED ON? UH, PAGE FIVE. IT'S GOT, UH, JOHN AS THE, UH, PRIMARY REPRESENTATIVE AND DIANA AS THE REGULAR REPRESENTATIVE. AND THAT IS THE, UH, I SAID THAT IS THE FORMER. WE'RE GONNA GO REMOVE DIANA. OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS, NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN. MOTION ACCEPT. COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. COMMISSIONER ROSA. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU YOUR HONOR. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS, UH, KAREN COOPER PRESENT THE, UH, REPORT FOR OCTOBER, 2013. GOT TWO REPORTS. CAN YOU TAKE ONE PASS? SO MAKE SURE YOU GET TWO ONES FOR LAST FISCAL YEAR AND DIFFICULT. I'M SORRY. THERE SHOULD BE AN ASK ME TO KIND OF KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP ON HOW WE'RE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2013. SO I WANTED YOU TO, UH, SEE THAT OUR REVENUES ARE AT 97% [00:35:01] THE GENERAL FUND, OUR EXPENDITURES AT A 96.8. SO WE'RE GONNA ADD A LITTLE BIT TO FUND BALANCE. I STILL HAVE A FEW MORE ENTRIES TO MAKE AND WE SHOULD BE SITTING ALRIGHT. RIGHT. UNLESS WE HAVE SOME BILL COMING IN THAT WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT'S NOT IN COVERED. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'RE ENDING, UH, 30 20 13 IN THE LAST YES, WHICH IS WHAT WE DIDN'T PARTICIPATE. AND UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME OF THIS, THE GRANT MONEY THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE FOR THE MURDER, UH MM-HMM. THE, UH, PROSECUTION, HAS THAT BEEN CREDITED? UH, NO, NOT YET. THAT WILL BE DONE. WILL WE BE ABLE, I MEAN THAT WILL BE ALLOWABLE TO DO THAT. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. YES. IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THAT'S $34,000 I THINK AROUND 54 7. ARE THERE ANY OTHER OUTSTANDING REVENUES THAT, THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT ARE NOT LISTED YEAR? NO SIR. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME GRANT MONEY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GOING INTO THIS YEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED YET. WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS SO WE CAN GET CLOSED OUT. SO IT'S NOT COMING UP HERE. NO. BUT AS FAR AS IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT, JUST A LITTLE BIT LEFT TO REPORT. YEAH. AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES ARE CONCERNED, WE'RE, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. FEEL LIKE YOU, UNLESS LIKE I SAID, SOMETHING COMES IN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT COVERED. BUT JACK, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT HE KNOWS ABOUT. WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE POS AND CLOSED THOSE OUT THAT WE COULD. I THINK WE HAVE ONE INVOICE FROM THE, UH, ARCHITECT, UH, ON THE ANNEX. GOT, YEAH. THAT WILL COME OUT OF 10. YEAH. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON 2013? WELL, I, I THINK WE SHOULD, THE OTHER THING THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED HERE ON THE, UH, LAWSUIT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE COLS LAWSUIT. YES. WE DID PAY HUNDRED $10,000. WE OWED IT, WE OWED 200 SOMETHING. YES SIR. BECAUSE WE, THE, SO WE DID A BUDGET, RECENT AGREEMENTS WITH THE LAW FIRM PAID HALF OF IT WHAT WE OWED THEM OUT OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THAT BUDGET. YES SIR. AND SO THAT WILL, WILL BE APPROVED ALL THE EXPENSES WE HAVE ON THE PHONE. SO THAT'S, THAT IS INCLUDED ALREADY THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN 2013 PLUS WE BUDGETED TO PAY FOR IT IN DECEMBER OF 2014. THE REMAINING HALF OF THAT DEADLINE. YES. THE, NOT ONLY IS THAT HUGE THAT WE'VE GOT THAT PAID, BUT THAT HAS SHOWN UP, HAS SHOWN UP AS A HUGE LIABILITY. AND OUR OUTSIDE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WE LOST THE CASE. IT WOULD'VE BEEN, I MEAN IT WOULD'VE BEEN OVER MILLION. SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOING OUR QUITE A BIT I THINK. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ABOUT 2013 AND I'LL QUIT INTERRUPTING FOR NOW. OH NO, YOU'RE FINE. I JUST CAN'T GET IT. YOU'RE GONNA GET WELL, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER FINAL REPORT WHEN WE FINALLY, FINALLY CLOSE THE BOOKS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GONNA WANNA CARRY FORWARD THE OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO CARRY UP ON, WE WANNA ADJUST THEIR FUNDS SO THEY HAVE MONEY GENERAL FUND, YOU DON'T DO THAT BUT RATHER SOME OF THE OTHERS. OKAY. 2014 WE'RE IN ONE MONTH. THE BUDGET AS OF OCTOBER 31ST, SO THAT'S 8% OF THE BUDGET. WE'VE ONLY BROUGHT IN 2.6% REVENUES, BUT WE HAVE SPENT 5.8 IN OUR EXPENDITURES. WE BROUGHT $917,000 IN REVENUES. BUT WE SPENT 2 MILLION AND THAT'S WHY THE COUNTY TREASURER WAS TELLING YOU THAT WE NEEDED TO WATCH OUR EXPENDITURES AND THAT CAN HOLD SOME MONEY SO WE CAN PAY THE BILLS. AND IT USUALLY IS LIKE THAT TILL DECEMBER WHEN WE START GETTING SOME MONEY. IT IS INTERESTING THOUGH, WE'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED $530,000, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND THAT'S GENERALLY THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT. WELL ALSO THE UH, TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR HAD SEVERAL OLD CHECKING ACCOUNTS THAT WERE SITTING WITH QUITE A BIT OF MONEY IN IT THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO THAT MONEY [00:40:01] BELONGED TO. SO SHE CLOSED THOSE ACCOUNTS OUT, COFFEE COUNTY A CHECK AND WE RECEIVED SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT WAS JUST THERE. WE HAVE NO WAY OF TRACING IT BACK. BUT ANY CHECKS THAT WERE WRITTEN AS OUTSTANDING THAT HADN'T BEEN CASHED, I ACCC CREATED IT AS A LIABILITY ON OUR BOOKS. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY. THAT MEANS WE OWE IT. OKAY. SO WE CLOSED OUT SEVERAL OF THOSE ACCOUNTS. WHAT ARE EXAMPLES OF THAT? DO YOU REMEMBER THE WHAT NOW? WHAT, WHAT WERE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES? DO YOU REMEMBER ANY OF THOSE? ? OH, ONE OF ONE OF THE TAX ACCOUNTS HAD $187,000 IN IT. UH, 50 SOMETHING THOUSAND WAS OUTSTANDING CHECKS, THE REST WAS MONEY THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO IT BELONGED TO. AND UH, AND THE OTHER ACCOUNT I THINK HAD WHAT ABOUT 120 SOMETHING THOUSAND KW. WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO WORK WITH IT TO HELP THE TREASURER KNOW HOW TO RECORD IT WHEN CAROL WAS RECEIVING IT. SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT PUT IT. SO I SPLIT SOME OF IT BETWEEN ACCORDING TO THE RATES BETWEEN THE GENERAL, IF IT WAS AUTO RED AND IT WENT TO ROAD BRIDGE AND THEN I KEPT THE UM, WHAT WE, THEY SAY WE OWE SOMEBODY. I PUT THAT IN A LIABILITY. SO YOU WON'T SEE THAT UNTIL THEY EITHER CASHED A CHECK OR WE HAD TO TURN IT UP TO THE STATE. WERE THOSE JUST INACTIVE ACCOUNTS OR HAD THEY BEEN THEY WERE CLO THEY NEEDED TO BE CLOSED OUT DUE TO THE FACT THEY HAD BEEN OPENED BY A PRIOR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR. AND I ADVISED THE NEW TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR WHEN SHE TOOK OFFICE TO OPEN NEW ACCOUNTS AND PLACED THE OTHER TIME. HOW OLD WERE THOSE OUTSTANDING CHECKS? I, I HAVE NO IDEA. NOW I'VE GOT A LIST OF 'EM BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUITE A FEW THAT'S PRETTY OLD. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE NOBODY TOOK, I GUESS REALLY GOOD CARE OF THOSE ACCOUNTS. RECONCILE THEM, CALL THE PEOPLE, SEND 'EM A LETTER, YOU GOTTA CHECK YOU HAVE A CASH. IT'S NOT ANY GOOD ANYMORE. AND THE ONLY THING I COULD DO IS TAKE ALL THE OUTSTANDINGS AND RECORD IT AS A LIABILITY IN CASE SOMEBODY COMES BACK AND SAYS YOU OWE US SOME MONEY. THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION IS HOW LONG THOSE CHECKS ARE ARE THAT'S A PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY TREASURER AND THE TAX ASSESSOR AND THE AUDITOR'S GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON IT BECAUSE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE USUALLY WORKS WITH THE TREASURER AND WE SEND THAT MONEY TO THE STATE AS UNCLAIMED FUNDS. BUT I'VE BEEN WAITING UNTIL TANYA GOT BACK. WE ALL GOT WELL OVER THE ELECTION AND EVERYTHING AND GO FORWARD AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. I SURE IF YOU GET A LIST OF THOSE OUTSTANDING CHECKS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN , YOU'LL KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ON THERE. UH, HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE BEEN RECONCILED ABOUT THIS YEAR OR TWO AGO. PEOPLE IN THIS, IN THIS BUILDING IT MONEY THAT HAVING CASH THEIR CHECKS OR WHATEVER AND IT WAS, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE IT WAS A NIGHTMARE. I THOUGHT THE SIMPLEST THING WOULD BE DO JUST CANCEL ALL THE CHECKS AND FIND SOMEBODY. YOU WRITE 'EM ANOTHER CHECK. BUT THEN YOU HAVE, IF YOU'RE DOING THAT AS A LIABILITY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? RIGHT. I'M USING IT AS A LIABILITY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ARD ALMOST $300,000 IN REVENUE TO THE GENERAL FUND WHEN IT'S NOT. AND I COULD COME BACK AND SAY, NOW I NEED 250 OF THAT BACK 'CAUSE I GOTTA PAY THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY NEVER CASHED THEIR CHECKS. SO THAT'S WHY I REQUIRED IT TO THE OUTSTANDING ONES THAT THEY HAD. LIST, UH, THE DETAIL. THAT'S A WORKING PROPERTY? YES, IT'S A WORKING PROPERTY AND I HAD NO IDEA IF IT WAS DELINQUENT TAX. IF IT WAS CURRENT TAX BECAUSE IT'S NOT, 'CAUSE IT'S SO OLD. I SET UP A SEPARATE PROPERTY TAX LINE ITEM TO EVEN RECORD IT. SO I DON'T IT WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER PROPERTY TAX LINE. BUT IT SHOWS 530,000 8 35. THAT, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. IT'S NOT IN HERE AT ALL. NO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THIS IS ALRIGHT. WELL THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US. NO PROBLEM. IT JUST GETS REAL COMPLICATED BECAUSE SHE KNOWS HE'S ALWAYS ASKED ME. COMMISSIONER CLARK, WHY DOESN'T YOUR NUMBERS MATCH WHAT THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTORS REPORTING BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S RECORDED. SOME OF THIS 530, WHEN I GO INTO THE DETAIL, I HAD A SCHOOL SPECIAL REPORT. SOME OF THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE 2013 MONEY'S THE WAY THEY RECEIPTED IT. 9 27 9 30 WAS RECORDED IN OCTOBER'S MONEY. IT SHOULD BEEN, IT SHOULD BE RECORDED. [00:45:02] SO THERE MIGHT BE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR? OKAY, I MOTION TO ACCEPT THE OFFICER. MR. MAKES THAT MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU KAREN. AND I GUESS AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE SHOULD ASK IF AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE CANNOT FIND THOSE, IS THAT, IS THAT MAYBE JOHN THAT MONEY BE SENT? THAT'S WHAT WE USUALLY HAVE TO DO. JUDGE IS SEND THAT, WRITE A CHECK TO SEND THEM A DETAILED REPORT OF THAT PERSON'S FULL NAME THAT WE RECEIVED THE MONEY FROM AND HOW MUCH AND THEN THEY'LL PUT IT OUT THERE ON THEIR INTERNET SITE. THEIR WEBSITE AND PERSON CAN SEARCH BY THEIR AND PROVE WHO THEY ARE AND THEY'LL SEND THEM TO CHECK. I I LOOK EVERY YEAR MY NAME. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER DONATING NEW CELL PHONES FROM KATON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO THE GENESIS CENTER. OKAY. JIM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN PHONES. UH, THEY UPGRADED THEIR PHONES RECENTLY AND THEY LIKE TO DONATE THOSE TO THE GENESIS CENTER. THEY'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. IT ENABLES THOSE FOLKS TO, UH, ISSUE PHONES OUT THAT THEY CAN USE TO CALL 9 1 1 NOT A MONTHLY FEE. COST US TO COUNTY PROGRAM THAT TO 3 54 CLARK? YES. WHAT IS THE, I DUNNO, ANYTHING? NOT REALLY. NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO GO BACK BACK THE, GIMME ANY KIND OF CREDIT BACK. THAT WAS MY QUESTION THERE. CREDIT AND WE NEED PHONES OR NO CREDIT? NO SIR. WE GENERALLY EITHER, EITHER WE DON'T THEM OR WE PUT 'EM IN A BIG, BIG PILE AND SOME OPTION. ANYBODY IN FACT PROBABLY A LOT MORE USE AT THIS PROGRAM THAN THEY DIAL. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU DON'T HAVE SERVICE. DO THAT. I MAY WE DONATE THESE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I. ITEM NUMBER, UH, TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AWARDING A BID SERVICES FOR VARIOUS COUNTY BUILDINGS. JUDGE, THAT WAS A, UH, LIKE A TYPO THAT BE DISCUSSED. CONSIDER WE HAVE NOT DONE ON THAT. I CAN CHANGE THAT. JUST YOUR PERMISSION TO, UH, ADVERTISE. UH, JUST A BRIEF HISTORY ON THAT. UH, CURRENTLY WE, WE OUTSOURCE SERVICES FOR, UH, JP ONE, UH, PRECINCT THREE, SOUTH ANNEX TAR SUB CORN LIBRARY, CAMP COURTHOUSE, 40 SUB COURT JUVENILE PROBATION. AND THE EXTENSION, UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER, I THINK WHEN WE MADE THE SPING UP, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, BUILDINGS ARE BEING DONE BY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LIKE TO GET THAT ALL UNDER ONE. ONE COMPANY, UH, NICK, UH, WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT ALL THE BUILDINGS AND ONE HOSPITAL VENDORS OUT TO THE SIDE. UH, NOT, NOT WE A LOT CLEANING UP ON WIND BEING FILLED INTO JUST PRETTY BAD SHAPE. YEAH. UH, WE HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A DILEMMA. UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING ABOUT 60,000 A YEAR. UH, [00:50:01] WHEN WE COMBINE A DIFFERENT AREA TO THEIR OWN THING. UH, WE'RE PAYING ABOUT 60,000 A YEAR. WE HAD AN OUTFIT, UH, A HI FACILITY SERVICES COME OUT. THEY ON THE TIPS TAPS CO-OP. UH, THAT PRICE WAS ABOUT HUNDRED EIGHT. NOW, WHILE THAT'S INCREASED, 40% OR SO, I'LL TELL YOU THAT I GET 10 TIMES CLEANING. I KNOW FOR BUDGET PURPOSES WE MIGHT NEED TO TRY TO TWEAK THAT, UH, QUOTE IT FIVE TIMES, FIVE DAYS A WEEK. SOME AREAS MAY GET ONCE OR NOTIFYING SCOPE ON WHAT CURRENTLY WHAT UH, LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE GETTING. SOME PLACE MIGHT BE EMPTY TRASH OUT TWICE A WEEK. SHANE CAN VERIFY WITH THE SERVICE. I THINK THEY'VE BIT TO LITTLE TOO LATE. BUT, UH, WE KIND HAVE A LEVEL OF WHAT KIND OF LEVEL OF SERVICE WE WANNA HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MONEY TO BUDGET, SPEND ANOTHER 45,000 OR SO SO WE TO BID CHEAPER PRICE. LOT OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TRAVEL TO THE COUNTY TO CLEAN, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION AND ONE BUILDING MAY BE IN AN HOUR NEXT BUILDING OR THREE HOURS. BUT LIKE WE SAID, I KNOW WHETHER THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO FAR AS THE IN-HOUSE CLEAN. WE HAVE CURRENTLY, I THINK THE COUNTY STAFF JUST CLEAN THE ANNEX, UH, COURTHOUSE AND I THINK, UH, I DUNNO WHETHER WE COULD, UH, TWEAK SOME OF THEIR SERVICE. SOME OF COFFMAN HOW MANY DIFFERENT VENDORS DO WE HAVE NOW? WE'VE PROBABLY GOT ABOUT FOUR. YOU THINK THOSE FOUR OR FIVE BE INTERESTED IN GETTING THE TOTAL PACKAGE? I, I THINK SO. AND, AND AND YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU IT'S GONNA OPEN A CAN OF WORM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST I'VE HAD SEVERAL EMPLOYEES GET IN ON THIS. UH, I THINK MY DIRECTION, MY SPECIFIC WOULD INCLUDE SOMEONE DID ACTUALLY SERVICE. SHOULD THEY BE LICENSED? YES SIR. SURE. ARE THEY CURRENTLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THAT'S NOT DIFFICULT TO GET, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT WE HAPPY THAT PROBABLY ONE, YEAH, WE'RE, MY OFFICE IS HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY DOING AROUND THERE. BUT I GUESS, UH, DISCUSSION WE BIDS. HOW DEEP DO YOU GET INTO THE CLEANING PROGRAM? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU SPECIFY UH, WINDOW WASHING? UH, GET THE BUGS OUT OF THE, UH, FLUORESCENT LIGHTS. I MEAN YOU COULD, YOU COULD WRITE SPECIFICATIONS NOW TO ATTORNEY. PROBABLY WOULDN'T ADDRESS EVERYTHING YOU GET DONE. THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM. IS THIS A A OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, HAVE A ONE TIME FEE FOR CLEANING WINDOWS AND THEN THAT BECOMES THEIR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND, AND THEY DO SOME THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THERE'S A PRICE FOR THAT. SO I THINK COUPLE TIMES WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA PAY THAT PART OF ANYWAY. TWEAK. NOW THESE FOLKS THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE AND THEY COUPLE BUILDINGS POINTED OUT WHERE WE WERE LACKING AND UH, UH, SHE GAVE ME A, UH, KIND OF PERFORMANCE COMMEND DAILY CLEANING IS YOU, IT'S TWICE A WEEK TRASH EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW, DUSTING DUST BE BUGS. THEY GET PRETTY GOOD RESPONSE. THE QUESTION EACH, WE, WE COULD, UH, WE INDIVIDUAL, WE HAD A FORM CAME OVER TO US, WERE CHECKED OFF DIFFERENT THINGS. OKAY. NICK MENTIONED THE VIDEO. SURE. NIKKI ACTUALLY HAD, DID HAVE OUR SLEEVE ABILITY. I HAD TO PASS IT ON. SOMEBODY I'M FAMILIAR WITH WHO DOES THAT. I MAY NEED TO GET COMMISSIONER AND WE CAN DO IT. WE CAN LIST OUT THE THING WE WANT. I GUESS WE GET THE BID WE CAN TAKE OFF CHEMICAL RECOMMENDATION. I'M RECOMMENDATION. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT PUT A A V ON, I MEAN I'D LIKE TO HAVE EVERYTHING CLEANED UP [00:55:03] TO, TO A STANDARD, BUT WE SURE DON'T WANT PUT A BIN ON THE BUDGET. 45,000. THAT'S A LOT. I THINK GOING BIDS AND US BEING ABLE TWEAK, I THINK, UH, WE CAN POSSIBLY FIND SOMETHING IN BETWEEN. BUT WE DO NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR BUILDINGS BUT THEY'RE REALLY SHAPE. WE HAVE TO COME IN, PAY TAXES OR DO ANYTHING ELSE. IT HELPS ON THE, THE UPKEEP OF THE BUILDING. I MEAN IT JUST MAKES IT A WHOLE LOT BETTER WHEN THE BUILDING LOOKS GOOD. AUTHORIZED THE FIRST PLACE. ADVERTISE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO AUTHORIZE THE, THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO GO OUT SUBMIT FOR JAN SERVICE FOR VARIOUS COUNTY BUILDINGS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND RESOLVING SECONDS, UH, COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE? I JUST, I JUST WANNA MENTION ONE THING. I KNOW THAT I THINK KAUFMAN ISD THIS LAST YEAR OR MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO TO, UH, OUTSOURCE THEIR, UH, BUILDINGS FOR CLEANING. I DUNNO WHO THEY USED, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A CONTACT, MAYBE THAT COMPANY, UH, MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, DOING AS WELL. AND I THINK TWO OR THREE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTY HAVE DONE THAT ARE ARE IN THE PROCESS FOR VERY SAME REASONS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AND I CAN MAYBE HELP YOU FIND THAT INFORMATION OUT IF YOU WANT TO. BUT I KNOW I'M, I'M 99% SURE CALLING AND THAT THAT MIGHT BE A, IF THEY'RE ALREADY HERE DOWN, THAT MIGHT BE A COST FAILURE. IS THIS GONNA BE A LICENSE? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU ONLY ACCEPT BIDS FROM LICENSE AND BONDED CLAIM SERVED. YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I GO EVEN A LITTLE FURTHER ON THEM. I THINK I'M, I THINK MY DIRECT SO BE EVEN YOU WANT LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THERE ON IF NOT SERVICE, WE'RE GONNA GET EVERYBODY. UH, NOW I KNOW ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS TOLD THAT UH, A INDIVIDUAL COULD NOT GET A COUNTY CHECK AND GET PAID FOR ANOTHER SERVICE. I RAN UP A FLAG WITH THE, UH, TREASURE AND, AND IT WAS LOUD. I DON'T HAVE A COUPLE LEVEL THAT GET INTO THAT'S EVERYBODY MAKING EXTRA MONEY. I GET INTO THAT. I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS, I THINK IT'LL HELP THE, OF OUR EMPLOYEES WHOLE BUT NOT 45,000 MORE. HOPEFULLY THERE'LL BE SOME HEADS IN BETWEEN. YEAH, WE'VE BEEN PUTTING UP, WE'VE, IF WE USE, WELL IT MAY BE AND SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE POSSIBILITY MORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. AND I IT CAN OR NOT, BUT I'M SURE INTO THAT DECISION. WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL FOR JACK MAYBE TO HAVE BUSINESSES LOCATED LIKE TERRELL HAVE, HAVE BUSINESS AT TERRELL BID, TERRELL STUFF, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF ONE COMPANY BID IT ALL OR WOULD THAT BE TOO MUCH OF A ? I'M OPEN TO THAT. YOU KNOW, GENERAL SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE ARE BETTER COMING OUT. WELL THAT THEN THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY. INSPECT, MAKE DEPARTMENT. WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS OUTFIT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, AGAIN, THEY'RE ON THEY PEOPLE LEVEL SERVICE. YEAH. WHATEVER WE DO, I THINK THERE HAS TO BE THAT PART OF IT. THERE HAS TO BE AN ACCOUNTABILITY SOMETHING THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO OR CLEAN. I MEAN THERE HAS A, SO ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO UH, ADVERTISE [01:00:01] BID JANITORIAL SERVICES. UH, ALL HIS PAPERS SAY I DON'T, UH, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS DISCUSS LINE TRANSFER. Y'ALL TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 12 LINE ITEM TRANSFERS. DID YOU EMAIL THESE? OKAY. UH, WE HAVE ONE PAGE OF TRANSFERS FOR 2013, ONE STEP FOR 2014 AND A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR 2014 BECAUSE OF ANOTHER GRANT WE'RE GETTING FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE BULLETPROOF VEST. SO TO ALLOW THEM TO FILE, WE FIX THE LINE ITEMS. SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? 2013? WAS THIS ADJUSTMENTS FOR THAT? YES, THEY WERE FOR ADJUSTMENTS, UH, TO DO WITH STAPLE RECORDS ABOUT $108. UH, THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS, BECAUSE THEY CAME AND STARTED OUR FIELD WORK EARLY, THEY BILLED ME AS OF NINE 30. SO I HAD TO PAY IT AT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IN A WAY THE BID OR THE PROPOSAL WHEN Y'ALL ACCEPT 38 5, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR A SINGLE AUDIT. SO THAT'LL HELP SAVE A CUSHION TO HELP WITH THAT. AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER $7,900 OF UH, THE CAPITAL MURDER EXPENDITURES COME IN THAT HAD TO BE BOOKED FOR LAST YEAR, WHICH WE'LL GET REIMBURSED MORE FOR THAT. JUST HAVE TO TURN THOSE, THAT PAPERWORK INTO, UH, THE STATE. AND THE ONLY OTHER BIG INCREASE WAS TO COVER AUTOPSIES. WE GOT A BIG BUILDING FROM, UH, AT DALLAS COVER ALL THOSE. WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT ON MEDICAL, MEDICAL EXAMINER AND AUTOPSY WHERE MAY BE USED SOMEBODY ELSE BUT NOTHING EVER COMES OUT. ARE WE JUST SATISFIED WITH WHAT WE'RE GETTING OR? WELL, WE HADN'T HAD AN OPINION FROM, YOU KNOW, MIKE CAME IN AND GAVE US WHEN WE WERE IN THAT BUDGET MEETING AND I GUESS THAT WAS BEEN 12 AND UH, WE, I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT DURING THE BUDGET, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE I, WE HAD SOME KIND OF AGREED PRICE WITH THEM FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY. YES. YEAH. AND THEN THE BILLS WERE EXTREMELY HIGH AND Y'ALL WERE ASKING TO SEE 'EM AND IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD 13 TO 16 EVERY TIME THEY WERE BILLING US. YEAH. THEY'RE WHO GETS THAT BILL PW? DOES THE DA'S OFFICE GET THAT BILL OR THOSE MIGHT NOT BE SUFFICIENT. PAPERWORK APPLIES TO CREDIBILITY TOLD THE SAME PEOPLE DID IT FOR. RIGHT. BUT THERE'S A CONSIDER THEY DO FOR A LOT LESS MONEY. YEAH, THEY'RE CONSIDERABLE MONEY DIFFERENCE. I MEAN WE LOOKED AT IT THAT FIRST YEAR I WAS HEARING IT WAS A CONSIDER DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS MONEY GOES. BUT STAND AT PROBABLY THE DA'S OPINION. STAND AT THE, I'M HAVING YOU PULL UP THE INVOICE TO SEE WHO GETS THE INVOICE TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY THAT, THAT OFF. BECAUSE I MEAN THEY'RE SITTING FROM ALL FOUR JPS OR WHATEVER. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. YEAH. SEE THAT THERE, THERE'S, WHEN YOU GO TO THE LEGAL PART OF IT, YOU PROBABLY WANT, DEFINITELY THE HIGHEST LEVEL YOU GET UP THERE MAKE, CAN STAND UP IN COURT. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT AN OLDER GUY THAT'S GOT THAT NATURAL CAUSES OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET AN AUTOPSY ON IT. MAYBE YOU DO GO TO THE, WHEN I SAY THE CHEAPER ONE, ONE IS NOT GONNA GO TO COURT MURDER CASE OR SOMETHING SAYS THAT YOU WANT YOUR BEST. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMEWAY BETWEEN TO USE THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG RESPONSIBILITY ON JP OR WHOEVER'S CAUSE OF SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES GOES TO THE AND COMES BACK, SAYS SO SOMETHING, AN AUTOPSY ANYWAY. I [01:05:01] KNOW, BUT I YOU THINK YOU GO TO COURT SOMETHING THAT'S TAX ACCESSIBLE. DEFINITELY COURT CASE ONE. THOSE THAT FIGURE 31,500 MM-HMM 231,513. MM-HMM THAT'S ONLY 13. THAT'S ONLY $13 DIFFERENCE. AND WE HAVE $148 INCREASE IN YOUR COST. YEAH, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD SOME IN THERE TO COVER THAT. WE JUST NEEDED 13 MORE DOLLARS TO MAKE. OKAY. I THOUGHT THAT 48 WAS, THAT'S MAKING IT CHANGE TO THAT AMOUNT. WE JUST TESTING. NO, NOT REALLY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER? UH, EXCEPT THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER MOTION. MR. CLARK SECOND MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A OPPOSED. NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS PLANS AND CONSIDER THE AMOUNT TO $855,876 AND 45 CENTS. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, JOHNNY HAS NOT HAD TO USE THEIR 500,000 LINE. HE HASN'T ANYTHING TO, OKAY. IS THIS SAME THING, IS THERE ANY CHANGES? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CHANGES ON THE KW. UM, I THINK THERE IS ONE OR TWO THAT I'M HAVING TO REMOVED THE, THE LINEUP AND TWO, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE AMOUNTS IN THE CHANGE THOUGH. NO, THE AMOUNTS DIDN'T CHANGE. OKAY. ONLY THING I 36, 38. WHAT? IT WAS FOR PATCHES LIKE UNIFORM. WHAT'D YOU SAY ABOUT A WATER BILL? SKIP A METER OR SOMETHING. YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A WATER BILL? YEAH, WATER BILL. THAT'S WHERE [01:10:01] WE DIDN'T IN, DIDN'T CALL IN THE METER. SO GALLON GALLONS ON, THEY DO THAT, BUT THEN WHEN THEY GET THE READING LATER ON, BENEFITS THAT WE SEND OUT ON OUR EMPLOYEES, IT'S A C COUNT SO IT CAN AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFER. [01:15:17] WELL I KNOW WE GO THROUGH THEM. YEAH, BECAUSE UM, PAM HAS TO REPORT THAT ON THE WEBSITE. YES. WAS THE ONE BEFORE. UM, DEFENSE WHITE FENCE COMPANY. IT'S, IT COMES OUT ONE OF THOSE FOUR. MUSEUM OR HISTORICAL. I BELIEVE THAT THESE RIGHT HERE SHOULD BE ON TOP OF THE THREE. OKAY. LEMME FIND IT. WHAT IS IT TO PUT THE WRONG, THE WRONG STEVE THERE? UH, CHARGE PRECINCT FOUR. IT SHOULD BE PRECINCT THREE. YES. COMMISSIONER MANNING WANTS TO SEE THAT. NO, THIS IS, THIS IS FOR THREE OF 'EM. ALL RIGHT. THERE. STEVE WAS JUST THREE. YEAH. KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING? FIXING IT. OKAY. YEAH, THIS RIGHT [01:20:01] HERE. MY QUESTION FOR WHAT YOU GOT THERE CHARGE BEFORE WAS IN THAT YES, IT'S IN IT NOW. THIS NEEDS TO BE TO PRECINCT THREE, NOT PRECINCT FOUR, BUT THOSE KEITH STEVEN THAT REQUESTED THAT HIS DEPUTIES, WELL YOU KNOW WHY HE MARKED 5, 5, 4. WHAT? HE MARKED FIVE FOUR. A NICE COMMISSIONER. FIVE TEXAS CRAFT DRIVERS. MM-HMM . FOR SAFETY. 400. MM-HMM . WE'RE BUYING THEM. BUYING THOSE CONTAINERS. YEAH. YEAH, BECAUSE THE CO-OP CAN COME PICK THEM UP. OUR SALE WHERE WE'RE PAYING $300 FOR, I SAYS COME GET 'EM. THEY'RE GONNA DO IT FOR LIKE A HUNDRED AND HALF. WE'VE BEEN PAYING 312 A MONTH. YEAH. I AND THEN, THEN, THEN OVER FIELDS WHERE IF WE OWN THE CONTAINERS, WE, WE AGREED ON THAT. WE, IF WE GET EERS, I CAN CALL THEM ON WEDNESDAY, COME PICK IT UP ON THURSDAY, BE ONCE A WEEK AND HAVE HALF THE STUFF. YES. UH, 89, 9, 9 1 AND 92. THEY HAVE TO WRITE CHECKS LIKE THEY COLLECT A HOT CHECK. EXPENSES I HADN'T HEARD ABOUT. I TOLD YOU YOU HAD QUITE A FEW. I KNOW THAT THAT, UH, UH, MONEY THAT'S BEEN SPENT ON THAT SYMPOSIUM IN SAN MARCUS. WE DO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, SEND AN REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REIMBURSEMENT. I, I'LL LEMME CHECK ON PAYROLL JOURNAL. [01:25:09] THEY'RE, WHEN THEY GET DO SOMETHING CAUSE OH WELL IT, STEVE SUGGESTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO WHERE, UM, ANYTHING ANYTHING WON'T SEE. DID YOU SEE THAT? YEAH. COLLECTIONS. HE THE ONLY TWO THAT USE THEM. THAT'S 10,000. ASKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WANTED, THAT WAS AN ANNUAL THING. THEY SAID THEY DON'T LIKE MUCH. NO. THE SAME THING. AND WE COULDN'T HARDLY EVEN, UH, GO OUT AND BORROW MONEY WITHOUT SOMEBODY ASKING US, WELL, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN? WHERE'S YOUR PLAN AT? SEE HOW MANY ROADS? WATER TANK. THANK THE CITY CHAIR. I THINK THAT'S ALL OF THEM. ALRIGHTY, ADAM, NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIM FOR PAYMENT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER? MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. UH, MR. CLARK. SECOND THE MOTION. ANY OF DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A OPPOSED VOTE. A MOTION TO ADJOURN. GENTLEMEN. SO MANNING MOTION COMMISSIONER ROSA. ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. THANK YOU VERY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.