* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME TO, UH, TODAY'S MEETING OF THE KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT. THIS IS MONDAY, DECEMBER, SORRY, NOT DECEMBER, NOVEMBER THE 25TH, AND WE WELCOME YOU THIS MORNING. IF YOU ARE HERE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE, UH, COURT THIS MORNING, WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, A SIGN IN SHEET FOR YOU TO, UH, COMPLETE IF YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA, UH, ALREADY, YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT DOING THAT. UH, BUT IF YOU WOULD, UH, COMPLETE THAT. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL INTRODUCE YOU HERE JUST SOON IN A MINUTE FOR THE, UH, REGULAR MEETING AND STUFF. AGAIN, UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS KIND OF A COLD, WET DAY, AND, UH, WE'RE HERE AND AT LEAST WE WERE FORTUNATE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UH, ANY ICE OR ANYTHING THAT BEING HERE, EVEN THOUGH I'VE HAD SEVERAL EMPLOYEES KIND OF AND GROAN ABOUT IT, UH, INCLUDING THE COUNTY CLERK, HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT NOT WANTING TO BE HERE. BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IF YOU WOULD NOW STAND, THEN WE'LL HAVE PERMISSION. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR GATHERING HERE TODAY, OUR CITIZENS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HERE. WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM, UH, AND GUIDANCE AS WE DO THE COUNTY'S BUSINESS. TODAY. WE, UH, PRAY FOR OUR SOLDIERS IN HARM'S WAY, AND WE PRAY FOR THE SOULS OF THE SOLDIERS THAT HAVE GIVEN THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE. WE THANK YOU FOR THE REIGN THAT YOU'VE, US AND JESUS NAME, IGI OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WISHES STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE CROW. HONOR, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE CHIEF EVANS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS, UH, SIGNED IN? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE, UH, RIGHT ON INTO THE AGENDA. I HAVE, UH, TWO ITEMS ON THE, UH, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. UH, I MADE YOU A COPY AND I BELIEVE WE PROVIDED COPIES FOR THE, UH, PRESS, UH, UH, FROM A LETTER THAT THE SHERIFF RECEIVED, UH, ON NOVEMBER THE 20TH, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, CONCERNING THE ANNUAL JAIL INSPECTION, UH, BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON JAIL STANDARDS. UH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND, UH, MEET WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT CONDUCTED, UH, THE JAIL, UH, STANDARDS REVIEW, FRED ST. AMMA. AND, UH, HE WAS VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF OUR JAIL. AND, UH, WE PASSED, UH, I THINK WITHOUT QUESTION, UH, WITHOUT ANY ISSUES WHATSOEVER. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE, UH, WORK THEY DID AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR JAIL, UH, REMAINS IN COMPLIANCE. UH, THE OTHER THING IN REGARDS TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE FOUR YOUNG LADIES THAT ARE HERE TODAY THAT, THAT HAVE RECEIVED, UH, SOME RECOGNITION FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNANCE. AND HERE, JUST IN A MOMENT, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, JEANNIE WILLOUGHBY AND REBECCA LAW AND CORPORAL LAURA MILLIGAN, UH, SERGEANT HEATHER JACKSON AND JAMIE LAND TO COME FORWARD. AND I HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU GUYS. SO I'M GONNA WALK DOWN AND Y'ALL THE MEETING HERE AT THE FRONT. WE'LL DO THAT NOW, GATHER AROUND SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE HERE. AND, UM, I KNOW THIS IS, UH, UH, AN AWARD THAT, UH, COMES BY A LOT OF HARD WORK AND PROFESSIONALISM AND, UH, WE CERTAINLY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO AT OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I KNOW THE, EVEN THOUGH THE SHERIFF'S NOT HERE, THE DEPUTIES THAT ARE HERE TODAY, UH, RESPECT YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND I'VE, I'VE OFTEN HEARD THAT, UH, THE 9 1 1 DISPATCHERS, THAT'S ONE OF THE TOUGHEST JOBS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU DEAL WITH PEOPLE AT, UH, AT THEIR VERY CRITICAL TIME OF NEED. AND SO WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND THE FACT THAT YOU'VE BEEN, UH, UH, RECOGNIZED BY THE NORTH CENTRAL, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNOR. SO LET ME READ THIS TO YOU, UH, IN RECOGNITION AND SINCERE APPRECIATION, AND THEN OF YOUR NAME, UH, YOUR EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE OF YOUR [00:05:01] DUTIES AS KAUFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, AND FOR BEING NAMED BY THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AS TEAM OF THE YEAR, KAUFMAN COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THE SIGN, BROOKS WOOD, KAMAN COUNTY JUDGE. SO THANK YOU LADIES VERY MUCH. AND JEANNIE, UH, HERE'S JEANNIE WILLY. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK, AND REBECCA, THANK. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK. OKAY. AND CORPORAL MILLIGAN, LAURA MILLIGAN, CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU TO YOU AND SERGEANT HEATHER JACKSON. HEATHER, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. THANK YOU. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. LET'S GIVE THESE LADIES A Y Y'ALL WON'T SAY ANYTHING OR SING OR SONG OR . WE WORKED ON A SONG, IT JUST DIDN'T COME THROUGH. OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE DILIGENCE AND, AND THE SAFETY THAT YOU PROVIDE ALL OF US. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. PARDON? IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING GOING THAT SOUNDS LIKE THEY NEED TO WORK. ALRIGHT, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING AGENDA THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS? I DUNNO OF ANYTHING, STEVE, UH, THANK YOU THIS MORNING, STEVE GOT UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND CHECKED ALL OF OUR ROADS THIS MORNING, CALLED ME ABOUT FIVE 15, SAID EVERYTHING WAS GOOD TO GO. WE HAD, WE JUST BARELY DODGE IT, I THINK. SO WE'RE, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO OPEN UP AND, UH, CONDUCT BUSINESS AS, UH, AS NORMAL. UH, TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT OF CONSENT AGENDA. FIRST IS THE ACCEPT TENANT FOR THE NOVEMBER THE 12TH, 2013 MEETING. AND THEN ALSO TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING DEPUTATION OF BUD FARMER AS PART-TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER OF THOSE? UH, TWO ITEMS I MOVE. WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL RIGHT, SO MR. MANNING MOVES THAT WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? CARRIED. NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR, UH, TREASURER. ITEM NUMBER THREE, DONNIE COUNTRYMAN TO PRESENT, UH, ACCEPT THE, UH, TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR OCTOBER 23RD. THIS IS ALWAYS ON WORST ONE. YOU IMAGINE MONEY GOOD IN NOW, RIGHT? SO THE 500,000 THAT WE AUTHORIZED YOU TO BORROW IS NOT NEEDED THEN? I DON'T THINK SO. GOOD. IT'S STILL SITTING OUT THERE YET. OKAY. DECEMBER. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT HIS BEFORE AS SO MAY COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO HEAR FROM OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR TANYA RADFORD, TO PRESENT THE REPORT FOR OCTOBER AND SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2013. AND I BELIEVE YOU JUST GAVE US A, A BRAND NEW ONE HERE JUST A MOMENT AGO FOR OCTOBER. YES, SIR. AND ON THE SEPTEMBER ONE I GAVE OUT SOUTH CAMPUS LAST MONTH, SO I DUNNO, IT MUST JUST BEEN ACCIDENTALLY PUT IN THERE. OKAY, SO I JUST HAVE THE OCTOBER REPORT FOR TODAY. UH, AND AS OF, UH, THE END OF OCTOBER, WE'VE COLLECTED $637,218 18 CENTS ON THIS YEAR'S TAXES. UH, WE ALSO COLLECTED $58,587 IN, UH, PASTURE'S TAXES FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND ROAD AND BRIDGE. WE'VE COLLECTED $96,249 FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. AND FOR PREVIOUS YEARS WE'VE COLLECTED $6,686. BUT THE BIG MONEY WILL COME IN WHEN THE, UM, MORTGAGE COMPANIES PAY, WHICH IS EASY. BE THE DECEMBER OR JANUARY, AND THAT'S WHEN WE USUALLY GET ABOUT 10, 20 MILLION AT THAT TIME FOR THE MORTGAGE COMPANY. SO THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LATER. I DID [00:10:01] WANNA POINT OUT, YOU SEE, UH, OVERAGE COLLECTED THERE. JUST AS A PART OF UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT WORKS. UH, THERE'S AN OVERAGE OF TOPS AS I'VE RESPECTED $2 AND 55 CENTS. IF IT IS AN ISSUE BE OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OR THE TAX OFFICE THAT WE OVERCHARGE SOMEBODY, THEN WE RETURN AN OVERAGE THAT WE COLLECTED. IF IT IS, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO DO MATH, SO IF THEIR BILL IS, IS $98 AND 27 CENTS, I'LL WRITE A CHECK FOR $99. THAT'S AN OVERAGE COLLECTED AND WE JUST KEEP THAT AND SLIP THAT AMONG THE ENTITIES THAT THAT PERSON PAYS TAXES TO. SO AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TWO 5 CENTS AND OVERAGE IS THAT WE COLLECTED IN THAT MANNER. IT'S UP BY LAW. WE DON'T HAVE TO RETURN AT ANYTHING, UH, LESS THAN $5 THAT THEY PAY OVER. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS YOU COULD, UH, DISPENSE THAT THE COUNTY JUDGE'S FUND FUND, IF YOU FUND, WE GET TOO FAR WITH $2 55 CENTS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? OKAY, I MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE TAX SESSIONS. UH, 20. THAT MOTION. SECOND ROSA. SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU MA'AM. AND HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD MONTH. YOU TOO. YES. I'LL CHECK. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AGREEMENT FOR RIGHT OF WAY PROCUREMENT FOR STATE HIGHWAY 34 75, STATE HIGHWAY 43. YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT HAS BEEN A PROJECT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON? YES. THIS IS A, THIS IS A STANDARD AGREEMENT THAT, UH, TECH HAS TO CUT OUT TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY W FEDERAL HIGHWAY MONEY'S BEING SPENT ON IT. AND THIS JUST ALLOWS US TO, UH, BUY THE DRIVEWAY THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO BUY ON ONE FIVE. WE BYPASS, NOT PURCHASED ANY, WE HAVE NOT PURCHASED ANYTHING. THIS, ANY QUESTIONS BREAK? CONSIDERING THIS, THIS IS ALL STANDARD. THERE'S NO SPECIAL CONDITION. IS THERE ANYTHING RIGHT? NO, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, IT'S STANDARD THAT, UH, PART OF THEIR GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TO GO. WE COULDN'T PROCEED WITHOUT THIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT FOR RIGHT OF AWAY HEARING WITH, UH, STATE HAVE MOTION. COMMISSIONER CLARK. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND MANNY SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER SIX, JACK IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADVERTISING A BID FOR AN ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS ROAD MATERIALS FOR ALL PRECINCT TIME. TOBI, AGAIN ON, ON MATERIAL BID. SO PERMISSION TO ADVERTISE, ADVERTISE THIS WEEK PAPER YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES, CONDITIONS OR DELETIONS YOU WANNA ADD TO THE, UH, TAKE OFF CONTRACT. ARE YOU GONNA CONTACT THE SAME VENDORS, MAKE BID DONE ANYTHING YOU WANT ADD TO OR TAKE OFF? WE KEEP THIS SIDE OFF ON PURPOSE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, UH, JACK CONCERNING THE ANNUAL CONTRACT PAROLE MATERIALS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY INTEREST IN, UH, UH, FROM ANYBODY BESIDES TXI AND THE AND THE, UH, CEMENT END OF IT? NO, SIR. SO THAT'LL CONTINUE TO BE A SINGLE SOURCE FAMILY? YES, SIR. PROBABLY. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE A, IS THERE AN ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGES GOING THAT PROMOTIONS THIS EARLY IN THE YEAR? YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY, UH, PIGGYBACKING TRAN COUNTY A BIT, BUT I KIND OF CONSIDER DOING THAT. UH, WE MAY ACTUALLY WANNA WAIT UNTIL, UH, IT GETS WARMER AND, UH, PUT ONE OUT TEST WATER AND IF THE PRICE IS NOT AS GOOD AS COUNTY, WE CAN PIGGY BACK, GO BACK, TALK FOR THOSE GUYS TO, UH, [00:15:01] TO GIVE A PRICE HERE IN ADVANCE WITH THE VOLATILITY OF THE OIL PRICES GOING DOWN. AND I CLOSER THE TIE TO YOU RIGHT? PUT ON HERE SINCE WON WARMS UP. NOT WANNA DO THAT AROUND WHAT? MARCH OR SO MAYBE? YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT THE END OF APRIL. PROBABLY ABOUT THE SOON AS WE'RE PROBABLY BE INTERESTED IN USING MAY HIGH. WELL WE SIX MONTHS CONTRACT. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE ADVERTISE THE BID FOR CONTRACTOR FOR VARIOUS ROOF MATERIALS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER CLARK SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER. ANY DISCUSSION ALL SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING PROCEDURES RELATED TO GRANT PRODUCTS. UH, JIM, I I I'VE BEEN BEING WITH PAM QUARTER, I KNOW THAT SHE REVIEWS MOST OF THE GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVED. UH, WE'VE HAD SOME MINOR ISSUES HERE RECENTLY. UH, WHERE TYPICALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE'LL, UH, BE NOTIFIED THAT, THAT THE GRANT IS GOING TO PAY FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ITEMS AND WE'LL PLACE AN ORDER AND MAYBE THE GRANT DIDN'T COVER ALL THOSE ITEMS OR UP TO A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT, THAT I MAY NOT BE, MAY NOT BE AWARE OF. UH, THERE'S ALSO ISSUES AND WE HAVE, UH, GRANT FUNDS. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH DIFFERENT STEPS. I'VE GOTTA GO TO A, A WEBSITE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT DEBARRED FROM FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAM. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO ON MY SIDE THAT, UH, SOMETIMES WE'RE, WE'RE RUSHED. WE MAY BE TOLD THAT, HEY, WE'VE GOTTA SPEND THIS MONEY BY THE END OF THE WEEK, THEN WE'RE GONNA GIVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO WHAT WE NEED BE DOING, UH, BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS WILL BE OUT HERE SOONER LATER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. I POLICY CHANGE PAM, SHE HAD AGREED TO, UH, REVIEW ALL THE GRANTS. I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IF ANYBODY HAS A GRANT, UH, BEFORE I PLACE AN ORDER, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SIT OUT WITH, WITH ONE INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE BUYING FALLS WITHIN THAT GRANT. SO WHETHER, WHETHER IT'S A POLICY CHANGE, WHETHER YOU PUT A FIRST MANUAL, I'M JUST KIND ASKING TO KIND OF SET A POLICY WHERE IT ALL FUNNELS THROUGH ONE PERSON. I KNOW WE HAVE VARIOUS PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT, OUT THERE OBTAINING GRANTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT. APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK MAYBE ONE PERSON NEEDS TO REVIEW, ALL RIGHT. TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BUYING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT COVERED. SO YOUR SUGGESTION IS TO MAYBE HAVE A SET POLICY YES, SIR. AND, UH, BUT WE, WE DON'T, YOU'RE NOT READY TO PRESENT THAT THIS MORNING? I I CAN, I CAN, UH, COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, PREPARE TO PUT A POLICY WHERE I'M UPGRADING THE MANUAL OKAY. AS PART OF THAT. AND I WANT TO GET Y'ALL'S INPUT. UH, WHAT Y'ALL, I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR THE COUNTY. WE HAVE ONE PERSON TO USE ALL OF THEM. SO I CAN GO WITH THAT ONE PERSON BEFORE I PLACE AN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WHAT I'M BUYING THEY'RE GETTING IS COVERED ON THE GROUND. SO I, UH, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL, I'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER JUST, UH, IN MANUAL OUT THAT WAY. WHAT YOU DO, YOU HAVE ONE PERSON IN MIND? WELL, PAM PORTER CURRENTLY IS THE SPECIAL PRODUCT PERSON THAT APPLIES FOR BOTH OF THE GRANTS. I KNOW SHERIFF'S OFFICE LY, THEY'VE GOT PERSON DOES A GOOD JOB. AND I THINK TALKING TO PAM, THEY WORKED TOGETHER. UH, THEY, WE HAD A THING , I GUESS, WHERE WE, THEY WERE MONEY FOR A LAPTOP AND I THINK WE BOUGHT ANOTHER LAPTOP, BUT THAT SECOND LAPTOP WASN'T COVERED. SO WE HAD TO DO SOME CHANGES WITH THE AUDITOR TO GET THAT MONEY TAKEN OUTTA THEIR ACCOUNT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE WE GET DONE RIGHT BECAUSE, UH, WHAT IS COUNCIL'S OPINION? UM, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I MEAN, DEFINITELY HAVING A PLAN TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T PURCHASE. IS THAT BE A GOOD IDEA? I THINK I, IF IF WE, IF YOU, IF YOU GUYS NEED SOME, SOME BACKUP ON, ON THE LAW AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE, THE REGULATIONS ARE. I MEAN WE, WE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, THERE'S A LEGAL ISSUE THERE MM-HMM . ON MY END. YOU KNOW, I DUNNO IF THE COUNTY BUYING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT COVERED THE RIGHT, I THINK IT'S MORE POLICY THAN IT'S YOU. WELL, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL GRANTS FROM DIFFERENT OFFICES, YOU KNOW, AND UH, YOU KNOW, PART OF PAM'S JOB RESPONSIBILITY IS GRANT MANAGER AS WELL. AND UH, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NEVER FORMALLY EVER BEEN AN ADDRESSED, UH, RIGHT. AND THERE AGAIN, WHAT WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS THERE MAY BE A GRANT THAT'S BEEN AWARDED, MAYBE IT'S A 2-YEAR-OLD GRANT. RIGHT. AND TIME WE GET IT. LIKE IT'S GOTTA BE DONE BY THE END OF THE WEEK. IT DOESN'T GIVE US TIME TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING. BUT IT [00:20:01] SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING, I MEAN, IT'S A COMMUNICATION THING, SO, WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THERE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE A, A, UM, PROCEDURE, POLICY PROCEDURE BECAUSE WE EVER MESS AROUND AND THEY AUDIT THIS OVER THESE GRANTS AND WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE. IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE BAD NEWS. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID. WE'RE OKAY NOW, I JUST DON'T WANT US GET SITUATION NOT, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE A PART OF AN ADDITION TO OUR PERSON MANUAL. RIGHT. WHICH MAKES SENSE TO ME. I MEAN, YOU'LL GET WITH PAM AND WHOEVER COME UP WITH, SO YEAH. THIS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A SERIOUS BUSINESS ON THE GRANTS. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE GRANTS. YEAH. IF THEY'RE NOT DONE PROPERLY. I CAN TELL YOU I COUNTY JUDGE HAD TO MAKE A HIGH SPEED TRIP TO AUSTIN, TEXAS WITH A HALF A MILLION DOLLAR CHECK TO GET IT DONE IN ONE DAY WHILE THERE WAS GONNA BE IN SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS MM-HMM . FROM SOME GRANT MISMANAGEMENT. WE DON'T WANT TO GET THAT. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED SOME, SOME KIND OF A POLICY PROCEDURE TYPE THING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW IT AND IT'S FOLLOWED UP ON HAND AND TO MAKE SURE WE, ARE I MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT AND, AND PART OF THAT YEAR OR SO AGO WHEN ONE OF THE COUNSEL I WENT TO THE, YOU ASKED A QUESTION YOU HAD FEDERAL ON A, YOU KNOW, WHEN LAST TIME YOU SAW THIS BASICALLY. AND, UH, NO ONE REALLY SEEN THESE FOLKS RECENTLY. AND THEY SAID, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE COMING, THEY'RE BEHIND AND WE'RE ALL GONNA VISIT EVERYBODY. SO WE, OKAY. SO YOU, UH, UH, I GUESS THE MOTION WOULD JUST, UH, IT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PURCHASING PROCEDURES. SO I GUESS WE'LL NEED A, A MOTION TO UH, AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING AGENT TO GET THE, UH, WITH THE GRANT COORDINATOR TO DEVELOP A POLICY THAT WOULD BE INSERTED INTO PROCEDURES, MANUAL PROCEDURES. YOU PUT THAT IN FORM OF MOTION? YES. OKAY. WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER THAT MADE THAT SECOND. COMMISSIONER CLARK SECONDED THE MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER CHANGES IN THE ANNUAL CONTRACT OR UNIFORMS, ROAD AND BRIDGE PERSONNEL. UH, GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A, UH, CONTRACT WITH G AND K SERVICES, UH, FOR UNIFORM RENTAL. UH, WE'RE ABOUT START YEAR THREE, THREE YEAR CONTRACT. I THINK A COUPLE OF PRECINCT PRECINCT ONE EXPRESS INTEREST IN, IN, UH, UPGRADING OR MAKE SOME CHANGES TYPICALLY ON A FREER CONTRACT. YOU, THEY WON'T DO THAT UNTIL THE CONTRACT'S UP, BUT THEY HAVE AGREED TO, UH, ACTUALLY THE CONTRACT START OVER. WHEN IS IT EXPIRED? THAT'S ABOUT, WE GOT 11, BUT THEY HAVE AGREED TO, THAT'S THE ROUTE WE WANNA GO. UH, I JUST KIND OF WANNA START THE DIALOGUE ON WHAT THE GENTLEMAN WANT. UH, I WAS HOPING IT ALL HAVE THE SAME UNIFORM. THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT. UH, I KNOW THAT I, THERE'S TO SOME KIND OF UNIFORM THAT READ ON WHERE SAFETY IS, SAFETY WHERE THE SHIRT HAS A PIPING OR WHATEVER. YEAH. THEY HAVE INTEGRAL REFLECTIVITY AND UH, YEAH, READY. THEY HAVE INTEGRAL REFLECTIVITY AND SAFETY. UH RIGHT. THE VEST BUILT INTO THE SHIRT. JUST A LITTLE BIT EXTRA CHARGE. AND AND THAT TO ME IS A SAFETY ISSUE WITH HIM HAVING TO WEAR THE SAFETY VEST AND I HAD NO IDEA HAD THAT. WELL, JUST A COUPLE THINGS ON THAT. THAT'S Y'ALL'S DECISION, WHAT Y'ALL NEED TO GET. UH, THAT ONE WE LOOKED AT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF MINOR PIPING ON IT. UH, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT HOTTER UNIFORM FABRIC MAKEUP. THAT SHIRT IS ALSO ONLY GOOD UP TO 55 MILES AN HOUR AND IT'S NOT CERTIFIED FOR HIGHER SPEEDS. WHEN YOU GET INTO ANOTHER SHIRT, THEN THAT'S A LOT MORE, I DON'T THINK ANY OF MY GUYS CAN RUN YOU GOOD. BUT BE AWARE IF YOU WEARING THAT SHIRT, SOMEBODY GETS RUN OVER AND THEN WE'RE NOT COVERED. I'M TRYING, TRYING TO SAY RUN THAT BY ME AGAIN. WHAT, WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH THAT? THE UNIFORM, UNIFORM GUY? TELL ME THAT THAT SHIRT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT Y'ALL LOOKED AT RIGHT. IS ONLY GOOD UP TO SPEED SIX FIVE MILE AN HOUR. SO IF THEY'RE OUT THERE, UH, WORKING IN THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE A, A LIMIT HIGHER THAN THAT, UH, IT DOESN'T PASS I GUESS OSHA RIGHT. AND SO YOU STU WHERE SAFETY VEST WANNA BE AWARE OF THAT? WELL, WE HAVE A 35 MILE AN HOUR LIMIT ON ALL OUR COUNTY ROADS, SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE. I THAT'S OF THAT ALSO, UH, HE POINTED OUT THAT, [00:25:01] UH, IRS HAS VISITED A TWO OR THREE ENTITIES LOCALLY LIKE FRISCO AND CITY OF BENTON. AND IF YOU ARE FURNISHING UH, WRANGLER JEANS, THEY COME BACK AND THEY TAX THE EMPLOYEE. THEY DO THAT AS A BENEFIT. THEY WEAR, YOU KNOW, SIDE OFF WORK, THEY WEAR 'EM OFF DUTY AND SO THEY COME BACK AND MADE THOSE TO PAY LIKE HUNDRED A YEAR, UH, FOR THAT BENEFIT. BE AWARE OF THAT THEY'RE COMING, BUT POSSIBILITY, YES SIR. REALLY? YES SIR. AND I THINK IT IS WHERE YOU, YOU'VE GOT A DICKIES JEAN THAT I THINK SOME FOLKS WEAR AND YOU'VE GOT A WRANGLER JEAN THAT SOME FOLKS WEAR APPARENT YOU'RE GONNA FURNISH WRANGLER JEANS. THEY VIEW THAT AS A BENEFIT. SO TAKE ON ONE. BUT A REGULAR UNIFORM PANTS IS DOES NOT FAULT OF THAT. CORRECT. THAT'S THE DICKIES THAT OR A WORK WORK PAN VERSUS A JEAN. UH, SO JUST WANT PUT THAT OUT THERE. I KNOW MY GUYS HAVE, SOME OF 'EM HAVE REAL ISSUES WITH THE WAY THE WORK PANTS FIT, UM, THE DURABILITY OF THEM. THEY JUST SNAG THEM OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, RIPS THEM UP AND THEN THEY, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. YOU BEING REPLACEMENT OR REPAIR COSTS. RIGHT. BUT, AND THIS MAY BE A WORKSHOP ISSUE. YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER YOU GOT WHETHER UH, SOME SIX WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT AND OTHER ONE START A NEW CONTRACT. UH, EITHER WAY IT'S ON BUY BOARD THAT NEED BE BID OUT. WE PROBABLY HAVE A DISCUSSION. WHAT'S THE ADDITIONAL COST? DOES HE INDICATE WHAT THE ADDITIONAL COST IS FOR THESE SHIRTS WITH THE PING IN AND ALL THAT? UH, COMMISSIONER, I'M NOT REAL SURE MAYBE I I HAVE NO, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK WITH US. WE HAD LIKE FOUR DIFFERENT SHIRTS AND, AND PANTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. I NOT, AND I THINK THAT'S, THERE ARE DIFFERENT ONES YOU CAN PICK. SO IT'S YEAH. BY YOUR BUDGET THAT'S YEAH. THE UH, UH, ISSUE THAT WE HAD WITH THE, WITH THE UNIFORM COMPANY, I MET WITH THE, WITH THE CHIEF I GUESS. AND WELL THEY RESOLVED JUST LIKE THAT, THAT REPAIR ISSUE THAT WE HAD. I MEAN THEY, THEY GAVE US SERVICES LIKE I HAVEN'T SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, SO. GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE SET. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE UNIFORM? YEAH, WE'RE GOOD. WHAT WE GOT. YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE HAD REAL GOOD LUCK WITH THE CURRENT VENDOR, UH, ON ANY ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD. HAD A COUPLE OF 'EM CAME UP AND THEY THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY CUSTOMER FRIENDLY. YEAH. BACK ON IT. ABSOLUTELY. UH, WITH EM, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS AND SEE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THE SAFETY VEST MORE KIND OF A PAIN PUT ON AND OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU CAN GET THE MESH ONES IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN IT'S 104 DEGREES OUT THERE AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A SOMETHING THAT WILL KEEP THE WIND OFF OF, KEEP THE WIND OFF EVERY, SO, BUT MY GUYS ARE PRETTY, PRETTY STRONG ON, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THOSE BEST ON ONE OUT THERE. MATTER OF FACT, I, I PUT MINE ON WHEN I GO OUT, GET OUT AND TALK TO THEM, MOST OF THE TIME THEY GET EAT OUT IF THEY HAVE IT ON, IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT ON ANY OF THE TIME. SO I'M, I'M SATISFIED WITH WHERE, WHERE THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW. WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE TO SEE KIND LIKE SAY THE HEAT, UH, ISSUE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT BECAUSE GETS OUT THERE. I AGREE. I MEAN I I, I'LL LOOK AT IT, BUT UH, I'VE SPOKE WITH MY GUYS LAST FRIDAY EVENING AND UH, THEY INDICATED THAT THEY RATHER RUN WITH THE DENTIST VERSUS THE SHIRT BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM HAVE WORN THESE SHIRTS BEFORE THIS GOT THAT. OH, I GUESS IT'S A VINYL 3M PRODUCT OR SOMETHING. RIGHT. AND IT JUST SO THAT THEY'RE EXTREMELY HOT AND WARM AND I, I'M, I'LL BE GLAD TO, UH, YOU GUYS WANNA HAVE REP COME VISIT PRIOR TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE CHANGE AND WE CAN HAVE A DUAL CONTRACT SHIP THIS MORNING. WE HAVE TO DIRECTIONAL HOW YOU WANT TO GO. SO DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS? UH, JACK, DO YOU NEED ANY JUDGE? I THINK NOT I'LL, WHAT I'LL DO IS, IS UH, HAVE A REP COMMISSION OKAY. TO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE, UH, THIS GROUP HAVE THIS CONTRACT AROUND THE YEAR, BUT ANOTHER GROUP HAVE A NEW CONTRACT. I THINK IN PERFECT WORLD, LIKE HAVE EVERYBODY HAVE THE SAME CLAIM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. OKAY. WE WORK AROUND THAT. WELL THAT'S BASICALLY, THAT'S WHY WE INSTITUTE THIS SINGLE CONTRACT BECAUSE WHEN [00:30:01] I FIRST GOT HERE, THERE WAS LIKE THREE COMPANIES OR FOUR COMPANIES HANDLING THE UNIFORM FOR THE OLD PRECINCT. JUST WOUND UP COSTING ABOUT TWICE OR THREE TIMES WHAT, WHAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS. AND IT WAS, IT WAS STRICTLY MONEY, BUT IT WAS DIFFERENT COMPANIES, NOT JUST DIFFERENT UNIFORM. RIGHT. BUT, BUT EVERYBODY WAS GOING THROUGH AND THE COST WAS REALLY HIGH ON ONE COMPANY'S JEANS AND REALLY HIGH ON THEIR CHURCH AND THIS AND THAT AND THIS AND THAT. IT WAS JUST A, IT WAS, IT WAS A MONEY DEAL WHILE WE CHANGED TO A SINGLE COMPANY, WE HAVE SAVED MONEY GOING LEAST A SOLE VENDOR OR, OR ONE VENDOR TO SAY THAT. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SERVICE THAT SUFFERED AS FAR NOT THAT I'VE SERVICE. THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE TO ALL OF THE BRIDGE PERSONNEL. WERE IN THE SAME CLOTHING. SO BECAUSE THE PRECINCT LINES ARE SUCH THAT WHEN YOU WORK RIGHT OVER HERE, YOU COULD HAVE BEEN ONE PRECINCT OR THE OTHER PRECINCT. BUT IF EVERYBODY'S GOT THE SAME TYPE OF UNIFORM ON, THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING BRIDGE GUY, WELL YOU'LL, UH, THEY KNOW WHO TO COMPLAIN TO. RIGHT. PROCEED WITH THIS AND GET BACK WITH US ON DOWN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. AND WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER NINE AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROOFING A CONCEPT PLAN FOR REQUEST FOR VARIANCE IN THE KAMAN COUNTY SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOP RULES, REGULATIONS FOR THE IDENTIFICATION OF PLACE, ROADS, OR STREETS AND DEVELOPMENT, ALL WINDING CREEK RANCH. OKAY. PRECINCT ONE AND IN THE APPROXIMATE AREA OF 1 36. COUNTY ROAD 1 36 C AND BARN MARKET 27 28. MR. YES SIR. UH, THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO HAVE KEN. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING PATIENT. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU MS. WE HAVE PROVIDED EACH COMMISSIONER CONCEPT PLAN. THIS, UH, SUBDIVISION IS BOUNDARY ON THREE SIDES, ROADS, TWO SIDES BY COUNTY ROADS, ONE SIDE BY FARM MARKET ROADS. UM, THEREFORE IT HAS NO ROADS BEING BUILT ON IT. AND, UM, IT HAS NO, UM, NO TRAINING CHANGED. ALL THE DRAINAGE CONTINUES GOING DOWN THE SAME WATERWAY THAT IT HAS IN THE PAST. THEREFORE WE'RE, HE'S PRESENTING HIS CONCEPT PLAN AND THEN WE HAVE A TOPO MAP VARIANCE HE'S REQUESTING. WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE VARIANCE THAT HE'S REQUESTING? THE, UH, OUR ENGINEERING FIRM REQUIRE REQUESTS A TWO FOOT TOPOGRAPHY CHAIN DRAWING AND THE US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY HAS A 10 FOOTER, UH, ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND THAT'S THE ONLY VARIANCE. YES, KEN, KEN IS REQUESTING TO USE THE 10 FOOT TOPO MAP INSTEAD OF, UH, GOING THROUGH AND REDRAWN IT ON A TWO FOOT MENT. UM, THAT JUST, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IRRELEVANT. THERE'S NO DRAINAGE BEING CHANGED, ROAD BEING BUILT. UH, TYPICALLY THE TWO FOOT TOPO REQUIREMENT IS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. AND, UH, SO THE VARIANCE WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL. UM, AND THEN WE'RE BRINGING, UH, THE FINAL PLAT, UH, IN THE NEXT NEXT ITEM. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, THE, THE CREEKS, UH, ON THE PROPERTY, WE LOVE TO USE THOSE AS BOUNDARIES AS OPPOSED TO, UH, HAVING THEM COME CLOSE TO ANY TYPE OF BUILDING AREAS ON THE PROPERTY. THERE'S NO FLOOD PLAIN IN THE ENTIRE, ACCORDING TO FEMA MAPS. WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH, WITH USING THE USGS 10 FOOT ELEVATION BECAUSE BASICALLY THE LAND'S PRETTY MUCH ALL FLAT ANYWAY, ISN'T IT? YES SIR. YES, SIR. THE, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, A TWO FOOT INCREMENT, UH, IT'S NOT GOING, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GONNA, MIGHT BE ANY DIFFERENCE. NOT GONNA SERVE ANY PERFECTLY SINCE, SINCE THERE'S NO EARTH WORKING, YOU KNOW, REROUTING THE DRAINAGE OR AN OLD ROAD BEING CONSTRUCTED, REROUTE DRAINAGE. [00:35:01] DID, DID THAT REQUIRE YOU TO DO THE, THE TOPO FOR THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION ON THE LAST TIME DID YES, SIR. AND, AND WE FINISHED THAT. WE DID THE, UH, UH, SOUTH LAKE RANCH, WHICH IS UP ON 4 29 AND THE, JUST THE TOPO TWO FOOT REQUIREMENT WAS ABOUT $4,600 AND ABOUT TWO WEEKS WORTH OF WORK, AND IT WAS ADDED TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. AND THE FINAL PLAT IS WHAT'S RECORDED AT THE, UH, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IN, IN THE TOPO WAS NOT EVEN ON THE FINAL FLAT. SO, UM, PROBABLY AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE TWO FOOT, TWO FOOT REQUIREMENT WAS FOR MUCH SMALLER LOT SIZES, MAYBE EVEN IN A CITY ETJ IF THE HOUSES ARE GOING ON LIMITED AREAS ON THOSE LOTS, UH, I THINK THE AVERAGE, UH, LOT SIZE ON THIS IS CLOSE TO, TO FIVE, ALMOST SIX ACRES. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF, OF, UH, PLACES TO BUILD A HOUSE AWAY FROM ANY TYPE OF LOW AREA. I HAVE A CONCERN ON GRANTING VARIANCES, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT SOUND LIKE THIS IS A VERY LEGITIMATE VARIANCE. YES, SIR. BUT IF WE GO WITH THIS VARIANCE, ARE WE GOING TO BE REQUIRED OR BE EXPECTED, JOHN IN THE FUTURE TO NOT FOLLOW OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS? UM, I DON'T KNOW. UM, AND, AND I, I KNOW YOU DID NOT MEAN THAT AS A TRICK QUESTION, BUT THE CURTAIN IS, I WAS, UM, LOOKING AT THE AGENDA THAT THE COURT NEEDS SHOULD PROBABLY REVIEW AND SIDE NUMBER 11 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE WAIVER VARIANCE ISSUE FIRST AND THEN VOTE ON NINE AND 10, WHICH IS THE CONCEPT PLAN OF PLA THAT THAT WAS MY ONLY INPUT. BUT AS FAR AS FUTURE THINGS, I I COMMISSION, IT'S SOMETHING THAT SEEMED TO BE RAISED BY, UM, SOME OF THE EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED ON THURSDAY THAT COULD, MIGHT BE UNRELATED TO THIS, IF THIS, IF THIS TRIGGERS A, A CHANGE IN A SUBDIVISION REGULATION, MAYBE WE NEED TO, MAYBE IT IS A GOOD CHANGE, BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO CHANGE THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. REGULATIONS PRIOR TO GRANTING A VARIANCE CHANGE. I THINK WE KIND OF GOT THE, ACTUALLY WE PRESENT ITEMS IN THAT ORDER. IT WAS ITEM 11 AS FIRST ON THE REQUEST, I BELIEVE. SO WE DO, DO WE REALLY NEED TO SKIP ITEM 11? I I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, SKIP TO ITEM 11, REQUEST THE VARIANCE WA ON THE TWO FOOT TOPO AND THEN IF WE APPROVE THAT, WE WOULD APPROVE THE CONCEPT PLAN WITH SERVICE. IS THAT NOT RIGHT JOHN? YES. YES. IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION? THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. I WAS PLANNING TO BE QUIET TODAY. THAT'S ALRIGHT. WELL, WE'LL LET YOU DO THAT. SO YOU'LL RESTATE THE AGENDA ITEM. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, REQUEST WAIVER. ALRIGHT, SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE DO THAT. KEEP EVERYBODY AWAKE. ALRIGHT, LET'S, AND THAT WOULD BE A BETTER ORDER AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT, UH, AFTER WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSIONER. UH, ITEM 11 DISCUSSED. CONSIDER REQUESTING A WAIVER VARIANCE FROM THE TWO FOOT TOPOGRAPHY REQUIREMENT. DEVELOPER HAS A GEOLOGICAL SURVEY ON A 10 FOOT TOPOGRAPHY. THERE IS NO ROAD CONSTRUCTION NECESSARY FOR THE DIVISION OF THIS PROPERTY. NO WATER IS BEING REROUTED. WATER IS EXITING THE PROPERTY AT THE SAME LOCATION. A CREEK THAT HAS IN PATCH DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS WINDING CREEK RANCH, LOCATED IN PRECINCT ONE AND IN THE APPROXIMATE AREA OF COUNTY ROAD 1 36 7 AND FM 27 28. EACH PARCEL HAS A DRIVEWAY ACCESS FROM EXITING ROAD PARCELS ARE AS FOLLOWS, ONE PARCEL AT 7.001 ACRES, ONE PARCEL AT FOUR ACRES, ONE PARCEL AT 5.104 ACRES, ONE PARCEL AT 3.104 ACRES, TWO PARCELS AT SEVEN ACRES, ONE PARCEL AT 7.008 ACRES, ONE PARCEL AT 1.50 ACRES AND ONE PARCEL AT TWO ACRES. COMMISSION MAKING MOTION. WE ACCEPT THE VARIANCE. TWO FOOT PHOTO AND USE THE 10 FOOT THIS SUBSTITUTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? IF WE HAD THIS INFORMATION MAYBE A LITTLE EARLIER RESEARCH ON, I'M STILL A LITTLE CONCERNED ON THE, BECAUSE OF SOME, THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. NOT ANYTHING YOU'VE DONE IT, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE HAD HAPPEN TO US IN THE PAST AND SOME OF THE FRESHNESS THAT COULD BE SET. UH, [00:40:03] AND IT SOUNDS VERY LEGITIMATE. I LIKE STUDY A LITTLE BIT LONGER ON SOME. SO IS I'M, I'M OPEN I GUESS. YEAH. MY ONLY CONCERN IS I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO GET MOVING ON I GUESS AS SOON AS YOU CAN. IS THAT CORRECT? I, I, UH, OF COURSE, YEAH, I WOULD. BUT I PLAN ON DOING, UH, ADDITIONAL SUBDIVISIONS, UH, VERY MUCH SIMILAR TO THIS IN THE FUTURE. AND SO I FEEL LIKE IF, IF YOU WOULD AS A COURT WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AND UH, AND THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION THAT'S CORRECT. ONLINE, UH, REQUIRING THE TWO FOOT TOPO INTERVALS ON SPOT ON, BIGGER LOTS OF WHATEVER. THAT'S WHY I THINK SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A SMALLER LOT. I'M GONNA SAY YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ON THE 10 FOOT. WE YEAH, BECAUSE YOU DID IT BEFORE. WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE COME UP IN, IN, IN OTHER COUNTIES AND TYPICALLY THAT IS FOR LOTS LOCATED WITHIN AN ETJ OF A CITY OR, UH, ACRE, HALF, HALF ACRE TO AN ACRE, AN AVERAGE SIZE, WHICH WOULD LIMIT WHERE YOU CAN PUT A HOUSE. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IF, IF IT'S GONNA AFFECT ME IN THE FUTURE FOR ALL OF MY SUBDIVISIONS. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM THAN BEING, UH, TABLED I GUESS TO THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THAT SPECIFIC ITEM BECAUSE 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA, IT IS GONNA COME UP AGAIN AS I RIGHT. I CONTINUE. WELL, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY TO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO, I UNDERSTAND. MY BELIEF IS YOU'RE A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING TO IN OUR COUNTY, BUT ANYTHING WE DO IS, YOU KNOW, IS, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, AS YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT LIKE WAIVERS AND WE'VE BEEN PRETTY STEADFAST, UH, AGAINST THAT. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER, YOU'VE MADE A, A MOTION. WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR DESIRE YOU WANT COME WELL, IT'S TABLE. OKAY. TABLE ITEM NUMBER 11. OKAY. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. OKAY. AND, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING A CONCEPT PLAN WITH NOVEMBER. OKAY. THAT WILL GET HIM STARTED WITH APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPT PLAN, TAKE THE NEXT STEP. UM, HE CAN COMPLETE THE TOPO, UH, IF WE DON GET THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS CHANGE IN TIMELY ENOUGH MANDATORY THAT HE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AT, UH, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW AND ACCEPT THE FINAL PLAT WITH ALL THE, ALL THE REGULATIONS. . UM, I HAVE, EVERYTHING'S BEEN COMPLETED ON THIS FOR NOT ONLY THE PRELIMINARY PLAT BUT THE FINAL PLAT AS WELL. UH, THE ENGINEERING OFFICE HAS SENT A LETTER THAT SAID THIS IS THE ONLY ITEM AND THEY WILL ISSUE THEIR LETTER OF, OF APPROVAL FOR THE FINAL PLAT. SO IF I MAY, MAY I LOOK AT GETTING ON THE AGENDA FOR AFTER THAT, UH, THAT VOTE I GUESS FOR NEXT WEEK. YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL FORWARD. AND THAT WAY IF IT, IF IT DOES PASS, THEN I CAN IMMEDIATELY BRING FORWARD THE PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT UNDER THAT. YEAH. WE WILL NEED TO MAKE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON YOUR MOTION. MAKE MOTION MOTION TABLE CONCEPT. YEAH. TABLE ITEM. UH, 11. HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. THIS IS ON CONCEPT. NO, THIS IS ON TABLE. I WE HAVE A SECOND, MANNY. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SUPPOSE. ALRIGHT, NOW LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER NINE THAT WE WERE STARTING ON. AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. AND WHAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS SO YOU CAN GET STARTED. AND THEN AT OUR NEXT MEETING, OUR SUBSEQUENT MEETING, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. SO THIS BE REQUIREMENT, WELL, I THINK IF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ONLINE STATE TOPOGRAPHY REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, SO THEREFORE WE REALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN EVEN LOOK AT APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT UNTIL THAT RESOLUTIONS MADE, HOPEFULLY NEXT MEETING AND THEN WE CAN DO A SIMULTANEOUS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL AFTER THAT THAT VOTE IS TAKEN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DO WE NOT DO A CONCEPT? YOU NEED TO DO THE CONCEPT PLAN FIRST BEFORE YOU DO THE PRELIMINARY. RIGHT? THE CONCEPT PLAN, THE AUTHORITY, LET'S PROCEED WITH PRELIMINARY. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT Y'ALL AGREE. YEAH. AND THEN, RIGHT. AND THEN BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MAY DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'LL NEED TO TRY TO GET OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, UH, CHANGED. MAYBE JOHN, WE CAN HELP, UH, PROCEED WITH THAT OR GET, UH, THE ENGINEERING FIRM TO HELP PROCEED WITH GETTING THAT DONE. OKAY. MAY ONE? SURE. I I BELIEVE IN THIS SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ONLINE, THE CONCEPT PLAN IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSIONER IN THAT PRECINCT. AND IF EVERYTHING LOOKS, UH, OKAY WITH THEM, THEN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IS WHAT WE PRESENT [00:45:01] TO, TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. YES, SIR. BECAUSE THERE WAS A, A GUIDELINE THAT ALLOWED US TO GO DIRECTLY TO A FINAL PLAT AND ELIMINATE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IF THERE'S NO ROAD CONSTRUCTION OR ROADS. SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE THAT THAT REALLY, THERE IS NO PRELIMINARY PLAT TO APPROVE ON THIS SITUATION. THAT CONCEPT PLAN WAS JUST AN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PIECE ALONG WITH THIS. OKAY. SO THERE REALLY MADE ME, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING TO PROVE THIS. NO PARTICULAR NO ACT OR NO TIME. YEAH. WE'LL JUST MOVE TO THE NEXT FINAL PLATFORM. OKAY. THAT I'D LIKE TO GET ON THE AGENDA FOR AFTER YOUR BOOK. WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, DILIGENCE WITH US. SURE. WE, UH, THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE NEW AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. QUITE HONESTLY, WE'VE NOT HAD A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, SO THESE HAVE BEEN SO YOU, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH UP TO DATE ON THEM. WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED ALL. SO ITEM NUMBER NINE, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER TABLE ITEM NUMBER NINE, HAVE A SECOND, COMMISSIONER SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AND ITEM NUMBER 10, ITEM NUMBER 10 AS WELL. SECOND. SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DO AGAIN WITH US AND ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. NEXT ITEM, UH, WILL BE EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0 7, 2 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE DELIBERATION ABOUT REAL PROPERTY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO GO INTO SESSION EXECUTIVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER. I, SORRY, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL FAVOR SAY AYE. WE'LL TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE STAND UP. RIGHT? WE EMAILED Y'ALL, UH, EMAILED YOU TWO DIFFERENT LINE TRANSFERS. ONE WAS FOR 2013, PLAINTIFF SOME STUFF, AND THE REST WAS FOR 2014. JUST SMALL ITEMS. HOUSEKEEPING. UM, I'M PULLING THREE OF THESE IN 2013. WE HAVE A SPECIAL PROGRAM WRITTEN, BUT WE HAVEN'T TESTED THAT PROGRAM, SO WE'RE NOT SURE THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT ON THE TRANSFERS AND IT'S ONLY FOR THE JUVENILE PROBATION FROM THE COUNTY TO THE STATE, THE STATE TO THE COUNTY. VICE VERSA. AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THOSE ARE CORRECT BEFORE WE DO THEM. SO I'M GONNA PULL THEM AND I'LL SCRATCH THEIR TO THE, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ELSE? UM, COUNTY COURT LAW TWO FOR 2014, UH, WE ORIGINALLY PUT 25%, NO, 25% OF A FULLTIME EMPLOYEE IN HIS COURT BUDGET. AND THE RED 75 WAS IN THE LAW LIBRARY AND HE HASN'T MADE THAT DECISION. MONEY. MONEY PARTTIME. SO THE MONEY AND THE GENERAL FUND FROM UH, UH, ONE FOURTH OF A FULL TIME TO THE PART COUNTY HEALTH. SO IT'S RECORDED CORRECTLY AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY BIG TRANSFER. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT JUVENILE PROBATION DEAL WHEN WE TEST THAT PROGRAM? S ST W WROTE IT FOR US, BUT WE DIDN'T TEST IT AND UH, COMMISSIONER ZA HAD CALLED FRIDAY AND WE WERE DISCUSSING IT AND UH, KW ASKED ME IF I WOULD PULL HIM SO HE COULD RUN HIS TEST ON IT BEFORE WE'RE SURE. OKAY. AND THEIR PHYSICAL YEAR CLOSED, UH, AUGUST, NOT SEPTEMBER THE SAME AS OURS. SO THAT'S WHY IT CAUSES A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY MATCH UP WITH OURS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF THAT. THEY'RE ON PERIOD. YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON OUR, UH, THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER, UH, OR THROUGH THE END OF NOVEMBER. I I THINK YOU GAVE US THE BUDGET UPDATE THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER, BUT YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE. WE'RE NOT NOVEMBER. NO SIR. I HADN'T RUN NOVEMBER. GIVE US ONE FOR OCTOBER. I YES. AND [00:50:01] WE DID ONE FOR SEPTEMBER. A NEW ONE. YEAH. JUST TO LET YOU SEE HOW WE WERE IN AND OUT THE YEAR AFTER WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. RIGHT. I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR JOHNNY SAY THIS MORNING THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING INTO, SO THAT'S, THAT STATE IS GOOD. AND THEN THE OTHER TRANSFER IS THE, UH, ROSE PRECINCT MONEY THAT WE TRANSFER. NOT YOUR APPROVAL. ALL 4, 3, 6. HERE'S YOUR NOTES ON THIS TO ATTACH WHEN WE GET THOSE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, OLIVER, THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS? NO, YOU GUYS. OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO UH, UH, APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS RECOMMENDED BY SO MAY MR. MANNING MAKES MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND, MR. ROSA. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY A AYE. OPPOSED? NUMBER 14 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A CLAIM FOR PAYMENT. UH, THE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT TODAY ARE MILLION $391,824 AND 86. UM, 300 SOMETHING THOUSAND OF THAT IS COMING FROM ANOTHER FUND TO PAY THE EMPLOYEE SAVINGS. IT'S NOT COMING OUT ANY OTHER, SO DON'T YOU'LL SEE A REGISTER CHECKS. THE COUNTY'S OFFICE WROTE CHECKS TO EVERYBODY THAT HAD SAVINGS AMOUNT. WE NEED OUR EMPLOYEES SAVE ABOUT 300,000. RHONDA BEING AROUND 381,000 I THINK BECAUSE SIGNIFICANT THEY, IF THEY DON'T TAKE IT OUT AND DON'T TOUCH IT, THEN THE INTEREST THAT'S EARNED ON THAT MONEY IS DISTRIBUTED. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK EVERYBODY GOT THEIR SUPPLEMENT. I THINK. WELL YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT IT? 600. WELL I HAD A BUNCH OF 'EM SAY THINGS. WE HAD A, WE PUT LABELS ON THE ENVELOPE SO THEY KNOW THAT THERE COULD BE CASHABLE CHECKS IN THERE. THEY NOT DIRECT DEPOSIT SO THEY WOULD KNOW NOT ANY WAY. EMERGENCY RUN DOES GET BRIDGE THOSE ON THEIR CUL TOO. YOU SHOULD. MY PHONE. YOU DIDN'T HAVE ONE ON THERE, RIGHT? I DIDN'T. I LOOKED BEFORE I MADE BEFORE REQUEST. OKAY. YOU MIGHT NEED TO RUN ONE AND EMAIL IT TO ME. OKAY. BUT THOSE TWO, THOSE ARE NOT SEPARATE ONES. THAT'S JUST YOUR REPORT. THOSE CHECKS ARE INCLUDED IN THESE REGISTERS TOO. THOSE ARE JUST FOR YOUR LADIES TO KEEP UP WITH YOUR BUDGET. BUT THEY'RE NOT A DISTRICT. NO, NO. YOU'RE GIVEN THOSE, THOSE ARE JUST FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. OKAY. THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE BIG ONES THAT YOU SIGNED ALSO. RIGHT? OKAY. PAY FOR FLOWERS TWICE. OKAY. DOESN'T IT? AND ONE TIME, WHAT DOES THAT ONE MINUTE PAID FOR FLOWERS TWICE AT ONE TIME. FLOWERS, FLOWER, FLOWERS AND EXTENSION SERVICE. SOMETHING SIDE, YOU KNOW THE VENDOR, YOU KNOW THE VENDOR COMMISSIONER. SO WE CAN PULL THE INVOICES. EXCUSE ME. PETITION FOUR . SURE JUDGE WOULD. SURE. WHAT'S THIS EXTENSION SERVICE? UH, 6 65 ISN'T IT? YES. DO YOU REMEMBER WHICH ONE? [00:55:17] WHERE DO WE GET THAT BACK? OKAY. NO, HE'S, HE'S AT A WIND SERVING CONTEST IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME. WHAT WE JUST SEE HOW, HOW MUCH THEY JERK MY LEG COMPARED TO YOUR HERE. I'M TELLING YOU. I HOPE. SURE. THEY JUST BLOW MY LEG JUST FOR HOPEFULLY YOU JUST WATCH NOTHING. MISCELLANEOUS, NOTHING. EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS. WELL THEY WOULDN'T BE CHARGED YET. WOULDN'T BE OBJECT START ACCRUING. OKAY. SO YOU ARE NOT AT ALL, YOU ACCUSED ME OF MEMORIZ. THAT'S OKAY. WHY DON'T AS, AS LONG AS THEY'RE JUST ACCUSED THEY'RE JEALOUS. I'M NOT UNTIL A WIND BOY. YOU GUYS GONNA PAY FOR SIR UHUH, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, IS IT CREATED FLOWERS AND GIFTS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? HUH? CREATED FLOWERS AND GIFTS. HUNDRED DOLLARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S HUNDRED $50. OKAY, LOOK AT THE, THE ADD RIGHT DOWN BELOW THAT IT 75 2 PULL UP INVOICES VINEYARD TEN TWO SEVENTY THREE LOOKING AT IT'S ONE TWO DIFFERENT SKIP PAGES. NO, IT WAS TWO DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. IT YEAH, THE ONE INVOICE $50, IT WAS JUST LIT INTO TWO. THE INVOICE IS FOR $150 AND THEY CODED IT TO TWO OF THE LINE ITEMS. YOU NEED TO SCROLL DOWN AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ACCURATE REQUESTED FROM, YEAH, THE EXTENSION OFFICE. SHARON ONE IS FOR AG EDUCATION AND THE OTHER ONE WAS FOR AGE EDUCATION BASIC SPLIT. BASICALLY THE INVOICE, UH, BECAUSE SHE USED THEM FOR TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND WE HER TO DIFFERENT LINES FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE PURCHASES? YES, SIR. WAS ONE PURCHASE, IT WAS ONE PURCHASE. TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. I HOPE BECAUSE YOU USED FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAM. YEAH, IT TWO IT IS SEPARATE ONES SEPARATE ITEMS. SO THE INVOICE NUMBER WOULD [01:00:01] BE INVOICE. THAT'D BE T BE THOMAS DIFFERENT. IF I WAS GONNA ORDER SOMETHING FROM OFFICE AND I HAD ITEM SERVE COOKIES AND COFFEE, I CAN CHARGE THAT PART TO THAT PART. THE REASON I ASKED BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS IDENTICAL ON THAT AND THAT WAS TOLD YEAH, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A DOUBLE PAYMENT. WELL I WAS TOLD THAT THAT THE COMPUTER PROGRAM WOULDN'T ACCEPT DOUBLE DOUBLE PAYMENT FLAG SAID YOU'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THIS. IS THAT YES, IF IT'S A DUPLICATE INVOICE NUMBER BUT DOES ONLY IF IT'S THE INVOICE NUMBER. LIKE ONLY IF WE TRY TO PUT A SECOND INVOICE IN WITH THE SAME INVOICE NUMBER OR INVOICE NUMBER ON THAT. THIS WAS A, THIS IS A STATE AND REALLY WE TRY NOT TO PAY OFF THE STATEMENTS, BUT THIS IS WHAT CAME WITH THE NEXT YEAR. UM, PURCHASE REQUEST FROM THE EXTENSION OFFICE WAS THE STATEMENT OFFICE 78 CENTS OFF OFFICE SUPPLY. YEAH, THEY LOST MONEY. PROBABLY GET THIS HERE ON YOUR TRANSFERS AND HERE'S PRECINCT FLOOR. OH GOD, YOU ASKED ME THIS CHECK'S? YES. OKAY, THAT'S UH, THE SHERIFF'S PHONE AND THEN WEED HER, CHECK HER INTO HER HER IT WAS WHAT YOU DID MINE [01:05:09] TO TELL ANYMORE. TOM, YOU STILL HAVING HERE? YES SIR. WHAT TIME ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE? GOING AT 1130. OKAY. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TEST THE NEW STAIRS, THAT BUILDING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT MORE. WELCOME TO GET THERE EARLY AND TEST THE NEW STAIRS. YOU THINK I'D BE A GOOD TEST? NO DOUBT. I'VE ALREADY HAD TESTED TWO MY BIGGEST GAS BY SIDE CHECK. I LIKE ONE DEAL TO GET MY SAFETY AND I FIND ANY PRODUCT I TO GO BUY A NEW CAR. BUY A NEW CAR? NO, A NEW OH, I FIX MY GRAND. A NEW GRANDER ABOUT 29 YARD THINKING I RUN JUNK. I'M STILL LOOKING THOUGH. THIS WAS ALL ARE YOU FRY ANY TURKEY? I'M GOING FRY TWO TURKEYS SO IF YOU WANT TURKEY YOU BETTER GET THERE EARTH. I FRIED EIGHT LAST YEAR AND WE ENDED UP TAKING FOUR OF 'EM HOME. SO THERE'S GONNA BE TWO TURKEY AND 75 POUNDS OF FISH. 25 POUNDS OF TATER, 15 POUNDS OF ONIONS, FIVE POUNDS OF AND ALL. WELL I HAD TWO SITTING IN MY ICEBOX FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS. TURKEY SALAD, MYSELF, OFFICE. THERE'S A LADY IN THE OFFICE THE OTHER DAY. HAM. NOW THAT DON'T EVEN SOUND, SHE SAID SHE SAID TURNED OUT, BUT I DUNNO. THAT'S HAM. HAVE YOU EVER DONE IT? YOU CAN SKILL? YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S DIFFERENT. MIGHT BE FUNNY. YEAH, MIGHT BE. DID SHE DIG PR A HAM? SHE DOES AND SHE SAID EVER SINCE SHE DID HER FIRST ONE. THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL HER KIDS YOU MIND NAME. WOW. SHE SAID IT TURNED OUT JUST BLACK ON THE, BUT THE INSIDE IS JUST AS IN THE MELT IN YOUR MOUTH. SHE INJECTS IT. SHE INJECT IT FOR SURE. THERE'S YOUR PEN. I MIGHT HAVE, WHAT'D YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR. I SAID IF YOU CAN TELL YOU'RE NOT USING THE IPAD AT ALL, YOU'VE BEEN TOO BUSY. GOT ALL DECORATION. GOT THE GIRLS NOW SINCE THEY'RE OUTTA SCHOOL. [01:10:11] I JUST WANTED SO YOU RID, YOU COULD PAY THE SAME , YOU COULD DO IT. THERE'LL PROBABLY BE A NOMINAL CHARGE FOR THAT, BUT IF IT'S THE SAME INVOICE NUMBER IT'LL NOT, SHE'S PAYING NO ATTENTION. I SAID I DID, I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WOULD YEAH, BUT YOU CAN, WELL I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THAT, WELL I THINK I HAD THE WRONG KIND PROBABLY BONE ONE INJECT SPLIT THAT. I MEAN THAT'S JUST WHY SENDS US ONE INVOICE. OKAY, IF WE HAD IT DISTRIBUTED IT THROUGH OFFICE SAID SEVEN MINUTES PER HOUR, IT WOULD LET US HIT ALL THOSE LINE ITEMS SEVEN MINUTES PER HOUR. BUT THE NEXT MONTH IF THEY SENT THAT SAME BILL AND YOU PUT THAT INVOICE NUMBER IN, WE'LL KICK IT OUT. SO, BUT YOU WANT ME TO PULL THIS, PUT THIS IN HERE. DID IT SEND YOU A NOTICE THAT IT WAS THE SAME SAME ACCOUNT? NO, BECAUSE WHEN YOU ENTER IT, IT'S ALREADY WE I THIS OURSELVES. YES, WE WE PUT IT, WE WANT THIS MUCH CHARGE TO THIS LINE THAN THIS ONE. I'M GONNA SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT THE 70 I I'M THINKING YOU COULD NOT PAY TWO INVOICES. IT'S TWO DIFFERENT, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT STEPS. Y'ALL FIVE WANT TO GO TO CONFERENCE, HIS OFFICE CALLS AND HE'S GOT THE PO BUT HE WANTS TO TAKE A HUNDRED CHARGES TO HIM. A HUNDRED A HUNDRED LIST DOWN. IT WILL LET US HIT ALL FIVE LINES WITH THE HUNDRED A PIECE AND ON ONE INVOICE. SEE THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE PAID TWO. SO THESE CHECKS WRITTEN ONE HOLDING THEM BACK BECAUSE TYLER COULDN'T FILE. SO THE FIRST TIME YOU ENTERED WOULD LET YOU ENTER THE FIRST TIME, THE SECOND TIME YOU COULD DO IT RIGHT. IF I, IF I TRIED TO PUT THAT EXACT SAME, I TRIED TO, THE THING IS THE STATEMENTS, AND THIS IS WHY WE TRY NOT TO PAY OFF THE STATEMENTS IS BECAUSE, UM, WE CAN PUT JUST ABOUT ANYTHING FOR THOSE INVOICE NUMBERS. UH, WE CAN PUT IN THE STATEMENT DATE WE COULD PUT IN IF WE SAW THE INVOICE NUMBER ON THERE, WE PUT THE INVOICE NUMBER ON THERE, WE PUT IN THE DATE THAT WE RECEIVED IT. THERE'S NO SET THING FOR A STATEMENT. SO IF YOU HIT THE FIRST SCREEN TWICE IT WOULD SAY NO. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND WE DO IT LIKE THIS RIGHT HERE. THAT'S BECAUSE YOU AND THAT'S KIND OF, IF YOU HAVE 10 BILL THE SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE, WE KIND OF STANDARDIZED THAT IN OUR OFFICE THAT IF YOU GET A STATEMENT OR A REQUEST FROM ONE OF Y'ALL, WE'VE USED THE DATES THAT YOU HAVE ON HERE TO HAVE THE SAME DATE. SO WE DON'T THAT HELP. I ANSWER. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. I SECOND THE VERY FIRST TIME WAS, WAS WAS TRIGGERED NOT THE SECOND ONE. RIGHT. AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ANSWER ASKING QUESTION. YOU TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY YOU TURN THEM ASKING, YOU SAID DONE QUESTIONS JUDGE QUESTION. SHE SAID THERE IS NO DUMB QUESTIONS. SO IF I WOULD'VE LEFT MY SAVINGS ACCOUNT WITH THE COUNTY MM-HMM IT WOULD KEEP MAKING 0.75% INTEREST. IT'S WHATEVER THE INTEREST RATE IS AND HOW THEY ALLOCATE BY YOUR BALANCE. OKAY. THEY HAVE, THEY CLEAN THAT OUT EVERY YEAR THOUGH. ANY MONEY IN THERE? OH YOU TO CLEAN IT OUT. OKAY. IT ZEROED OUT. GET DOWN TO THAT. DIDN'T IT DIDN'T, IT WAS A TEST RUN. OH, I THOUGHT SHE WAS ASKING ME SOMETHING. NO, THE TEST DIDN'T TURN OUT VERY WELL. THEY WASN'T LYING ABOUT THAT 50 DEGREE MASS. DON'T DO IT. THE COURT WAS [01:15:01] THE INTEREST RATE PAID ON? YOU HAVE TO ASK THE TREASURER. I WAS GONNA CHECK, I WAS GONNA CHECK HIS MATH BUT THAT'S NOT HERE. GUESS I CAN ADD. WELL IT, IT ALL CHECKS OUT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE BALANCE IN THE ACCOUNT. THAT'S WHAT WE DISTRIBUTED EXCEPT FOR WHAT, TWO 12 CENTS? YEAH, IT WAS A ROUNDING ERROR WE HAD. SO WE HAD TO FIX THAT. A LITTLE BIT OF IT. JACK, WE GONNA DO, WHAT'S THAT? SOMETIMES GALLON 3000 GALLONS IN THERE. FIRST MONTH LAST. OH Y'ALL DON'T CHECK PRICES THEN CALL THEM. COULD YOU LOOK AT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT COMES UP? SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES IT LOAD. SO I'LL WAIT UNTIL IT'S KIND OF LIKE THIS AND TRY TO CATCH IT IN THAT DAM YOU HAVE LOOK. YEAH THAT LAST LOAD I BOUGHT, I BOUGHT IT FOR WENT UP 20 CENTS. SO YOU SURE SEND MEMO WHEN YOU GET THAT LOAD? YEAH, SEND SOME MEMO. WELL TOMMY GETS TIRED OF ME CALLING OVER BUT I DON'T CARE. SO STILL SEND CHECKS FOR THE BILLS WHEN I CALL OVER NOW I SAY THIS IS TOM MANNING. I SAID WILL FEEL SO MUCH, SO MUCH . SO Y'ALL GONNA BE HERE FOR THANKSGIVING OR NO? BABIES ARE HERE. ALRIGHT. BABIES GOT HERE ABOUT TWO O'CLOCK EVERY DAY RIGHT UP HERE. ALLEY? MM-HMM I STAYED UP IN 10 30 LAST NIGHT. HARD IT WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT LAY IT PUT TOGETHER A TRAIN SET. SEE THIS JP TECHNOLOGY FRONT ON REPORT ON HOW THAT PROGRESS MAG, HOW'D YOU GO? HOW IT'S COME ALONG? I ASKED ON THAT LAST WEEK AND THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP THREE OR THINGS GOING ON. SO I JUST PUT THAT IN WORKSHOP. THESE PEOPLE ON THESE, YOU KNOW, DATE WELL HAVE YET I WE CAN WORK ON ONE. RIGHT. THERE'S GONNA BE SOME KIND OF INVESTIGATIVE REPORT ON THOSE SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS ON ONE OF THE STATIONS. OH REALLY? YEAH. LISTEN, I DUNNO IF IT'S GONNA BE INVESTIGATED. INVESTIGATIVE. WELL WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, THE THING I SAW WAS THAT DISTRICT DOLLARS AND THEY COULD, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THESE GUYS, Y'ALL DO SOMETHING ON THE NINTH, ON THE AFTERNOON OF THE NINTH. IT'S ON MONDAY. MONDAYS ALWAYS GOOD. MONDAY'S COMPLETELY DOWN. ANYWAY. ANY MONDAY IS ALWAYS GOOD. MONDAY. I MEAN WE COULD, WE COULD UH, HAVE A REGULAR MEETING AND THEN HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT YOU GIVE EVERYBODY LUNCH TIME. THAT'S FINE. ME? YOU HAND IT PLEASE. I SURE WILL. YEAH, I WILL GIVE TIME. I'LL GIVE TOM COME TO BUY MY LUNCH. OKAY. YOU MAY GIVE A FRIED BOLOGNA SANDWICH RIGHT HERE. OUR CHURCH LEFTOVER [01:20:01] TURKEY SANDWICH. YEAH, TURKEY. I TELL YOU WHAT, I GOT ME SOME BOLOGNA DOWN THERE. DUTCH DOWN KING. I HAD A ABOUT THAT BIG NOT DO IT. HOW ABOUT THE FRIDAY BEFORE ANOTHER? WELL, WE CAN PROBABLY DO IT EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. FRIDAY. WHAT? WHAT IS THAT? THE SIXTH FRIDAY. HOW ABOUT THE FIELD THAT WORK? BILLS YOU STILL GONNA BE GONE PRETTY MUCH THEN NEXT WEEK? YEAH, TUESDAY. NO, WE GOT GOT ONE FOLDER HE'S FINISHED IN IT. SO YOU, WELL WE NEED TO HAVE, WE NEED TO AND WE DO IT ON THE 16TH. MONDAY THE 16TH. EXCUSE ME. WHAT IS THAT FOR? NINE O'CLOCK. THAT GOOD? OR CAN Y'ALL BE HERE EVERY TIME? ARE YOU HERE TO YES SIR. OKAY, I'LL BE HERE. WE'LL HAVE A WORKSHOP THEN ON THE 16TH. YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANNA HAVE ON THERE? OH YEAH. EDUCATION. THAT'S ALL THE BAILS, JUDGE. IT'S ALL THE BAIL. ALL FAILURES. YES SIR. ALL WE HAVE, UH, FOR PAYMENT, WE REVIEW ALL BILLS AND HAVE A TO APPROVE THE BILLS. SOME MAY. COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES THAT MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND COMMISSIONER. UH, MOTION OPPOSED. MOTION TO ADJOURN SOMEBODY. COMMISSIONER MAN. MOTION COMMISSIONER. MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY A. JUST SO SHOULD BE INVITATION. COME AND GO. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF FOOD SANDWICH. YEAH, YOU STILL LEFT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.