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HERE TO, UH, A REGULAR MEETING OF OUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON THIS WHOLE, UH, DECEMBER THE NINTH, UH, MEETING.

AND, UH, APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYBODY BEING HERE.

UH, IF YOU ARE HERE AND YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COURT, UH, WE HAVE SOME SIGN IN SHEETS OVER THERE THAT YOU CAN GIVE TO THE SHERIFF, AND WE'LL DO THAT MOMENTARILY AFTER WE, UH, HAVE OUR PRAYER AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

AND SO I'VE, UH, ASK COMMISSIONER MANNING THIS MORNING TO, UH, LEAD OUR PRAYER.

SO IF EVERYBODY WILL STAND, WE'LL GET UNDERWAY.

LET'S PRAY.

MOST GRACIOUS FATHER, AS WE ENTER INTO THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON, WE'D ASK YOUR BLESSINGS ON ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WORK TO MAKE THIS COUNTY BETTER.

EVERY DAY WE ASK FOR YOUR SAFETY, AND, UH, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU PUT YOUR HANDS AROUND OUR SOLDIERS WHO ARE PROTECTING OUR FREEDOM OVERSEAS, OR GIVE US THIS, GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND THE KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS FOR THIS COUNTY.

WE STRIVE EVERY DAY TO MAKE OUR, THIS COUNTY BETTER FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, AND WE WOULD ASK YOU TO ALSO BLESS THOSE WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE.

WE ASK YOUR, YOUR BLESSINGS IN JESUS.

AMEN.

AMEN.

I PLEDGE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY IN JUSTICE, TRIAL, HONOR, TEXAS FLAG ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS.

ONE SAY UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL.

ALL RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE, UH, MR. CHAIR, YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE, UH, THAT SIGNED UP? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE SO, JUDGE.

OKAY.

ANYBODY, ANYONE ADDRESS THE COURT? UH, STEVE BOWIE.

I HAVE HIS NAME HERE.

AND, UH, STEVE GOT SOME INFORMATION THIS MORNING THAT I TOLD TO, TO THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, AND WE CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON IT, BUT IT'S MORE OR LESS, UH, IT'S JUST MORE OF A REQUEST.

THE GOVERNOR OFFICE, I BELIEVE? YES, SIR.

UM, WHERE THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO SEEK A FEDERAL DECLARATION BECAUSE OF THE WINTER STORM THAT WE PROBABLY STILL IN THE GRIPS OF IN A LOT OF AREAS.

AND I'LL BE NEEDING SOME INFORMATION, UH, FROM EACH OF THE PRECINCTS AS FAR AS THE, UH, STRAIGHT TIME OVERTIME AND EQUIPMENT USED FOR CLEARING OUR ROADS AND ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, UH, ICE STORM THAT WE HAD.

AND, UH, THE BAD PART IS, IS I NEED IT BY TWO O'CLOCK.

UH, AND, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S AN ESTIMATE, AND IF YOU WANNA MAKE YOUR ESTIMATES HIGH, THAT THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT.

IT'S EASIER TO PULL IT BACK DOWN THAN IT'S TO PUSH IT BACK UP.

UH, JUSTICE OF INFORMATION, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S STILL APPROXIMATELY 1200 PEOPLE WITHOUT POWER IN TAR.

UH, ABOUT 80 SOMETHING IN THE CORN AREA.

TRINITY VALLEY ELECTRIC HAS CLEARED ALL OF THEIRS, UH, AND IT HAD THEM CLEARED FRIDAY NIGHT.

SO, UH, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING ON FOUR DAYS WITHOUT POWER.

UH, AND MY STAFF AND I ARE TRYING TO MANAGE THROUGH ALL OF THIS AND PUT THE NUMBERS TOGETHER, UH, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT ON THIS IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, IF THE FEDERAL DECLARATION COMES ABOUT.

SO, UH, JUST WANT TO KIND OF BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING AND, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS UPCOMING.

AND I HAVE SENT OUT AN EMAIL THIS MORNING, BUT JUDGE SAID THE SERVER WAS DOWN, SO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE IT IN YOUR INBOX.

SO, SO THEY NEED TO COMMUNICATE SOMEHOW TO YOU BY TWO O'CLOCK.

AND THAT CAN BE BY PHONE OR FAX, OR BY SYSTEM.

YES, SIR.

JUST, JUST ATE SOME, SOME ROUGH ESTIMATES SO THAT I CAN GET THOSE TO THE STATES, UH, THIS AFTERNOON.

OKAY.

YOU MAY NEED TO, UH, CONTACT STATE HERE.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOT STEVE.

WE CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING FOR, STEVE? SIR, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE ACCOUNTING FOR?

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THE, THE COUNTY THRESHOLD IS ABOUT 245, OR EXCUSE ME, $345,000.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO, TO MEET THE THRESHOLD, BE INCLUDED IN THE REIMBURSEMENTS STATE IS 34, UH, LIKE 34 MILLION PLUS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING WEST OF US, I DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG PROBLEM WITH ALL THE RESOURCES AND MANPOWER THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO USE.

WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE COUNTING, TRYING TO DO? UH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC LOSSES OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IF, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC LOSSES? WE'RE COUNTING THAT THE, THE, UH, IN THE EMAIL I ATTACHED A COPY OF THE DISASTER SUMMARY OUTLINE IS WHAT, WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD USE TO SEND TO THE STATE.

AND IT ALSO INCLUDES BUSINESS LOSSES, UH, ECONOMIC LOSSES FOR BUSINESSES, UH, INDIVIDUAL HOMES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DAMAGED, UH, DEBRIS REMOVAL, THE TREES AND STUFF THAT WE'VE CLEARED FROM THE ROADS.

UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE RIGHT NOW, THE CITY, UH, TARRELL CITY HALLS WITHOUT POWER, THEY'RE ON EMERGENCY BACK, SO APPRECIATE WITHOUT POWER, THE SUPORT HOUSE.

TERRIBLE WITHOUT POWER.

SO, OKAY.

SO, YOUR HONOR, THAT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I NEED TO KNOW AND COORDINATE WITH ENCORE, AS WELL AS IF WE'VE GOT 'EM SHUT DOWN, THEN THAT'S SOME TYPE OF ECONOMIC LOSS TO THE COUNTY OR THE CITY.

SO WE NEED TO, TO KNOW THAT.

SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE REPORT.

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE IF SOMEHOW YOU COULD GET A COPY BACK BEFORE WE ADJOURN THE MEETING TODAY OF THAT DECLARATION.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE, UH, HAVE SOMEONE FAX OVER TO, UNLESS YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT I'LL GET A COPY.

YOU CAN DO THAT, THAT WAY.

MAKE MOVE A LITTLE FASTER.

OKAY.

I'LL GET THAT OVER HERE.

AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF A HINT.

I WAS HOPING IT WOULDN'T BE MUCH TIME.

WE THERE'S A LOT.

YEAH.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAIN THING, MY POINT IS, IS IF WE CAN GET A REIMBURSEMENT FOR IT TO HELP OUR ECONOMIC SITUATION, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA TRY TO DO.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU, STEVE.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UH, IN THE MATTER OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE NEXT ITEM, I HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS, UH, THERE FOR YOU.

UH, ONE, THIS IS FROM, UH, JUDGE, UH, TAG AND JUDGE CHI.

UH, THEY BOTH SIGNED AN ORDER, UH, ON THE 3RD OF DECEMBER, TRANSFERRING THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, JUDGE WORK FROM, UH, THE 86 DISTRICT COURT, WHICH IS JUDGE TAGS, AND THEN, UH, TWO TO FOUR 22ND, WHICH IS JUDGE CHI'S COURT.

AND SIMPLY WHAT THIS MEANS IS, IS THAT, UH, EFFECTIVE THAT DATE, ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, DUTIES THAT, UH, JUDGE TIGER PREVIOUSLY, UH, HANDLED WITH THEM, BE HELD BY JUDGE CHI.

SO I THOUGHT YOU BE AWARE OF THAT.

UH, THE SECOND ITEM IS GOOD NEWS.

UH, HE DID RECEIVE A, A CHECK, UH, FROM ENCORE.

YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT, WHICH IS, UH, 10,005 21 CENTS.

UH, THIS IS, YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE ENTERED INTO THIS PROGRAM, I DUNNO IF PAM IS OVER HERE NOW OR NOT, BUT PAM WORKED ON GETTING THIS GRANT.

WE WERE HOPING IT WAS GONNA BE A LITTLE LARGER, BUT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE RAN INTO IS OVER AT THE MAIN COURTHOUSE.

THE AGE OF THAT BUILDING IS SO, UH, UH, THE WIRING UNIT WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO DO SOME OF THE, UH, THINGS WE'D HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DO AS FAR AS ENERGY.

NOW, WE DID CHANGE OUT ALL THE LIGHT FIXTURES AND THE LIGHT BULBS THERE, AND THAT, THAT'S UP AND GOING NOW, BUT WE'D HOPE TO DO SOME OTHER ENERGY MANAGEMENT THING, BUT BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE BUILDING, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.

BUT ANYWAY, A CHECK FOR $10,055 IS NICE.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE NEXT, THE SECOND PAGE HAS THE INCENTIVE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THAT WAS FIGURED.

AND, UH, SO, UH, PAM REALLY WORKED HARD ON THIS, AS DID, UH, OTHER, OTHER FOLKS.

UH, BUT WE APPRECIATE ENCORE, UH, WORKING, UH, TO HELP US GET THAT.

AND, UH, WE WILL TRY TO LINE OURSELVES UP FOR ADDITIONAL GRANTS.

NOW, I BID I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THESE GRANTS MAY, MAY SOON DISAPPEAR AS FAR AS ENERGY SAVINGS IS CONCERNED.

SO I THOUGHT YOU'D FIND, UH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? UH, NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND YOU HAVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 5TH, 13TH, 25TH, 2013.

YOU HAVE ITEM B TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING DEPUTATION

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OF JOHN, UH, DICKEY, ZACHARY BRIGHAM, AND DAVID PETTY FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

UH, ITEM C IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING OFFICIAL BOND IN OATH OF MARY GARDEN AS JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT.

ONE.

ITEM D IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REJECTING A BID FOR RESALE, UH, PROPERTY NUMBER A DASH 2 32, DESCRIBED AS J WESTBROOKS J WESTBROOK, 6.50 ACRES ON COUNTY ROAD 3 37.

UH, THAT'S IN CAUSE, UH, NUMBER 7 4 7 0 8 6 IN CALIN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE, UH, DISCUSS AND ALSO CONSIDER REJECTING A BID FOR RESALE OF PROPERTY, UH, NUMBER A DASH 2 35, DESCRIBED AS EMERALD, UH, STATES NUMBER TWO LOT 43 14 642 ALICIA PLACE.

AND THIS IS CAUSE NUMBER 8 0 5 82 DASH 86 IN KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT.

FOUR.

ITEM NUMBER F IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REAPPOINTING DAVID WILLIAMS TO THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT BOARD NUMBER FOUR FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, UH, BEGINNING OF JANUARY THE FIRST 2014 TO, UH, DECEMBER THE 31ST, 12TH, UH, 2015.

ADAM G IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPOINTING ROBIN BREED TO REPLACE SUE MARA ON THE ESD BOARD.

NUMBER FOUR FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, UH, AGAIN, JANUARY 1ST, 2014 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2015.

AND A BIT OF GOOD NEWS.

AND I NEED TO THANK OUR TRUSTEE AUDITOR FOR WORKING ON THIS.

WE, UH, KAMAN COUNTY WAS DESIGNATED AND WE GOT A NICE, UH, YOU, I THINK YOU HAVE A NICE, UH, PICTURE OR COPY OF THE 2013 GOLD LEADERSHIP CIRCLE AWARD, AWARD AWARDED TO KAMAN COUNTY FROM SUSAN COLLINS, TEXAS CONTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.

AND THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR I BELIEVE THAT WE QUALIFY FOR THAT.

YES, KAREN.

AND, UH, THIS IS FOR TRANSPARENT, UH, TRANSPARENCY AND OTHER, UH, UH, REQUIREMENTS TO GET THIS AWARD.

AND IT'S THE HIGHEST AWARD YOU CAN GET FROM THE TEXAS PATROL'S OFFICE.

UH, I KNOW KAREN WORKED, UH, HARD TO GET THIS DESIGNATION AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL PLACE ON OUR WEBSITE.

KAREN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR DOING SO.

AND I'VE GOT A NICE, UH, OFFICIAL, UH, CERTIFICATE HERE.

WE CAN EITHER HANG IN THE COURTROOM OR YOU HANG, WE'LL GET WITH, WE DID BUY A FRAME FOR IT BECAUSE TIMES ARE HARD.

SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH A FRAME FROM THE DOLLAR.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? CONSENT AGENDA? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIED.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A CITIZEN APPOINTMENT TO THE NORTHEAST TEXAS REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY.

UH, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, OR MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER, I'M NOT SURE.

KAMAN COUNTY VOTED TO JOIN THE NORTHEAST TEXAS REGIONAL MOBILITY REPORT AND, UH, THAT HAD TO BE APPROVED.

WE WERE ASKED TO JOIN BY THE, UH, UH, NORTHEAST TEXAS BOARD AT THAT TIME TO BECOME A MEMBER.

WE ARE THE LINK TO THE, UH, METROPLEX.

UH, IT HAS NOW SINCE BEEN APPROVED BY THE, UH, TEXAS HIGHWAY COMMISSION, AND I HAVE VISITED WITH, UH, ROBERT MESSER, WHO IS, UH, UH, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, UH, WITH THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK OF TEXAS.

AND HE HAS AGREED TO SERVE AND, UH, PUT IN THERE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT.

UH, AND, UH, ROBERT'S LOOKED THOSE OVER AND HE FEELS LIKE THAT HE CAN, UH, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING IF, UH, THE COMMISSIONER'S, UH, SOLE PROOF.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WHERE'S MR. MESS FROM? HE'S FROM, OKAY.

YEAH.

AND, UH, AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, OF COURSE HAS FACILITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTY, SO I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, GOOD REASON TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT COULD MAYBE REPRESENT A SERVE ON THE NORTHEAST TEXAS.

RMA.

WE HAVING A MOTION? AND SECOND, UH, UH, FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? IT'S GONNA TAKE SOMEBODY ATTENDING THOSE MEETINGS WITH MA.

UH, A LOT DECISIONS GONNA BE FINANCIAL.

WE NEED SOMEBODY WITH STRONG FINANCIAL BACKGROUND TO

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REPRESENT US.

REPORT BACK TO US ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

SOME SERIOUS, UH, CONSEQUENCES ON THE COUNTY, BOTH FIVE ORATED.

YEAH.

NEED SOMEBODY THAT UNDERSTANDS THE FINANCING.

IDEALLY, IF WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE, OR MY DAILY IS AT LEAST I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A VERY POSITIVE, UH, EXPERIENCE FOR US TO BE A PART OF THE WITH THE REST OF, UH, EAST TEXAS.

PLUS THIS IS A SEPARATE GROUP IN THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 20 WORKING GROUP, YOU KNOW, WHICH ATTENDED, THIS IS A SEPARATE GROUP, BUT I'M SURE SOME THEIR ACTIVITIES WILL BE SIMILAR TO WHAT, WHAT TAKES PLACE.

BUT, UH, IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE, I MEAN, HENDERSON COUNTY IS PART OF THIS COUNTY IS PART OF, AND SO CONTINUOUS WE HAVE.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS, UH, KATHY MORRIS.

IT LOOKS LIKE STEVE'S GRAD YOUR HOMEWORK.

UH, UH, KATHY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP AND, UH, TALK ABOUT THE, UH, REPORTS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ON THE, UH, PUBLIC WORK.

NOVEMBER.

FOR NOVEMBER, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 16 NEW PERMITS FOR S SYSTEMS FOR TWO CONVENTIONAL PRECINCT BREAKS DOWN THE PRECINCT.

ONE HAD FOUR, TWO AND THREE HAD ONE EACH.

AND PRECINCT FOUR THING.

THAT'S GOOD.

UM, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD FOR NOVEMBER, ACTUALLY THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR COMPLAINTS INVESTIGATED FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS OVER 1722 MALFUNCTIONS.

AND ONE WAS THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDE VIOLATION BY PRECINCT, PRECINCT 58, PRECINCT 2 21 PRECINCT, 27 PRECINCT 4 33 COURT CASES ENDED UP FILING WERE 56 FOR NO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.

19 FOR MALFUNCTIONS AND FOR ONE FOR THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER VIOLATION BY PRECINCT FOUR.

FOLLOW 29, PRECINCT TWO IS 10, PRECINCT THREE WAS 16, PRECINCT FOUR WAS 20.

HER ACTUAL 26 SITE VISIT FOLLOW UPS ADDRESSES BY PRECINCT.

ONE HAD THREE PRECINCT TWO HAD ONE PRECINCT THREE HAD 11 PRECINCT FOUR HAD FIVE OR TOTAL OF 20, UM, CAUSED GIS PROBLEMS ARE FIXING TO BE SOLVED.

THEY HAD, UH, PERSONNEL ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RESOLVED OR WE'RE NOW WORKING WITH.

THEY, THEY'VE GIVEN US A CONSULTANT PERMISSION.

CRITICAL PARTNERS.

I THINK THEY'VE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY BEFORE, BUT THEY HAVE HAD A, UH, THEIR GIS PERSON COME BY AND WORK WITH MY A LITTLE BIT, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S ALRIGHT.

OUR DAY WAS GETTING TO THEM THAT THE MAP WAS BEING SYNCED PROPERLY SO NOTHING WAS LOST, UH, UNTIL THEY GET SOMEBODY FULL TIME AT THE COG TO START DOING THE MONTHLY REPORTS.

THAT IS STILL KIND OF INFLUX.

THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE DATA BACK TO US, BUT IT'S GETTING BETTER HOW CONFIDENT THEY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

ATTENDED THE, UH, LAST 9 1 1 MEETING, HAD COLLEGE SINCE I WAS, COULDN'T GO TO THEM OR WHAT I, YEAH, WE WERE FOR MEETING, UH, AND I THINK WE WEREN'T THE ONLY COUNTY THAT WAS HAVING SIMILAR PROBLEMS, SO WE WERE WORKING ON THAT HOPING.

ANY QUESTIONS? ? YOU KNEW IT WAS COMING.

YEAH, I KNOW .

OKAY.

UH, I LIKE TO LOOK AT TRENDS OR WHATEVER UHHUH COULD, WHEN YOU GIVE US REPORT, COULD YOU DO IT, UH, AT SOMETIME THEN IT'D BE EVERY MONTH, MAYBE EVERY QUARTER OR SIX MONTHS OR EVEN MAYBE THE WORST CASE ANNUALLY, MONTH BY MONTH.

THE SAME REPORT SIDE BY SIDE.

SO WE KIND OF LOOK AND SEE WHERE THE PROBABLY BACK FEE MIGHT NOT BE SURE BY APPRECIATE WELL THE SAME REPORT RIGHT HERE, BUT BY MONTH.

OKAY.

I CAN'T, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW THIS WOULD LAST MONTH.

YEAH.

WHERE IF IT WAS WRITTEN DOWN WE COULD LOOK AND SEE THAT THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER, THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE.

I ACTUALLY, UM, GOT STATISTICS WAY BACK, BUT I CAN PROBABLY DO THE LAST COUPLE YEARS OF PERMITS AND ADDRESS TO SEE IF WE'RE ON UP.

WELL, JUST, JUST SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE RELEVANT TO US.

WE DID ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT WE, WE COULD KIND OF SEE A TREND GOING ALONG THAT THE COMPLAINTS ARE GOING UP, COMPLAINTS ARE GOING DOWN, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THAT WORK? IT LOOKS YEAH, LIKE YEARLY.

SURE.

START FRESH YEAR.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK.

THESE NUMBERS.

ATTENTION SPANS, NOT REAL LONG.

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NUMBERS ARE NEW PERMITS.

UH, KATHY, IS THAT, IN YOUR OPINION, IS THAT A REFLECTION OF MORE PEOPLE STARTING TO MOVE INTO THE CAN? YES.

'CAUSE THESE ARE NEW HOMES.

THE ONES IN IN YOUR PRECINCT YEAH.

SPECIFICALLY ARE DOWN THERE OFF 49 8 A TREE BRACE.

RIGHT.

THAT SUBDIVISION IS BEING RAPIDLY BUILT OUT.

GOOD.

GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KATHY? I NOT ON ALL HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT HER REPORT.

ACCEPT REPORT.

COMMISSIONER MANNING MAKES A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PUBLIC WORKS REPORT TO HAVE SECOND.

SECOND, MR. SHANE.

SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY A I.

THOSE.

ALRIGHT.

CARRIED.

THANK VERY MUCH.

WE'LL MOVE NOW AND WE'VE GOT SOME HOT INFORMATION OFF THE PRESS.

I BELIEVE THAT WE GOT THROUGH OUR SERVER BEFORE, UH, IT SHUT DOWN OVER THE WEEKEND.

AND JAMES, I KNOW YOU'RE FILLING IN THIS MORNING FOR JOHN, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY PUT ON THE AGENDA, KATHY, AT MY REQUEST TO DISCUSS THIS.

SO KATHY, YOU WANT TO KIND OF GIVE US ALL KIND OF AN UPDATE OR JUST KIND OF AN EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND THEN WE'LL ASK JAMES TO COME IN AND UH, UH, JUST SO PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA AND THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BASICALLY STEMMED FROM MY RESTORATION OVER, UH, MIXED MESSAGES THAT I WAS RECEIVING REGARDING PLANNING OF SUBDIVISIONS.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE COUNTY'S POLICY SINCE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1998.

I WAS JUST YOUNG KID NOW ANYWAY, SINCE 1998, WE HAVE NEVER MADE A DEVELOPER PLA A SUBDIVISION IF IT MEETS THE EXEMPTION CRITERIA IN CHAPTER 2 32, WHICH IF THE LOTS ARE 10 ACRES OR MORE, ALL THE LOTS ARE 10 ACRES OR MORE.

THEY'RE NOT CREATING ANY ROADS, EVERYTHING'S MEETS AND BOUNDS, UM, ET CETERA OR FOUND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE WAS IN MY OFFICE ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

THERE'S A SUBDIVISION IN HIS PRECINCT THAT MEET'S CRITERIA.

HOWEVER, HE TOLD THEM THE EMPLOYEES THAT THEY WERE NOT ISSUE 9 1 1 ADDRESSES OR STIC SYSTEM PERMITS UNTIL DEVELOPER PLATY.

SO THAT'S MY CONFUSION.

I JUST NEEDED Y'ALL TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW.

'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT SAYS SOMEBODY HAS TO PLA OR THEY DON'T HAVE TO PLA I'M JUST GOING ON BASED ON HISTORY THAT WOULD NEVER REQUIRE ANYONE THAT MEETS THE EXEMPTIONS TO 2 32 TO PLA AND THIS GUY IS WAITING ON ADDRESSES AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? WE, THAT'S BEEN OUR PROBLEM HERE IN THE COUNTY.

WE COME DOWN TO THIS, UH, OUT MY PRECINCT AS WE'RE DRAWING OVER THERE.

WE HAVE GUYS COME IN, GO DOWN THE COUNTY ROAD, THEY DIVIDED 10 ACRE TRACKS, ALL A, THEY'VE SUBDIVIDED THAT INTO TWO FIVE ACRE TRACKS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE WATER SUPPLIES, UH, HAD AN EXTRA HIT.

AND THESE PEOPLE GETTING BY WITH NOT COMING OVER HERE AND PLANTING IT SO THE COUNTY KNOWS WHAT THEY HAVE.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S CAUGHT THEN PEOPLE THAT COME TO MY OFFICE WANTING KNOW HOW COME THE ROAD IS, WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD? THE GUY DIDN'T PUT THE WIDTH.

THE ROAD SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE 60 FEET.

LIKE OUR SUBDIVISION SAYS, YES, WE'VE GOT SOME WORK THIS, THIS PROPERTY OF THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S A TIME FOR US TO, WE'VE NEVER DONE IT THIS WAY.

GET AWAY FROM THAT DEAL AND START DOING IT FOR LEGAL WAY.

THAT IS, I'LL DO WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT ME TO DO, BUT I CAN'T DO IT PRECINCT WAY AND A PRECINCT TAKE.

WE NEED COURT 1392 AND I'LL SHOW YOU, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO TELL THE DEVELOPER TODAY BECAUSE HE'S BEEN FOR THE LAST MONTH, HIS ADDRESS.

KEEP UP WITH IT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT'S ON MARKET OR IT'S ON ROAD.

I THINKS POSITION IS YOU JUST WANT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER, WHATEVER.

YEAH.

WE JUST NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH IT.

THAT'S WHERE WE ASKED JOHN TO, UH, LOOK AT IT.

JOHN'S SISTER-IN-LAW PASSED AWAY AND SHE'S, UH, HE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.

TODAY.

JAMES, ARE YOU READY TO BRING US UP DATE ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON THIS JUDGE? UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO BRIEFLY LOOK OVER THIS, THIS MEMO THAT, THAT JOHN WROTE AND, AND BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE MEETING THE EXEMPTIONS, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T REQUIRE IT.

AND THEN IF THEY, IF THEY AREN'T, THEN IT'S, IT'S THE DISCRETION OF THE COURT, WHETHER NOT THEY'RE, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY ADVICE.

NOW IF YOU GUYS LOOKING TO IT FURTHER, I DO THAT.

OKAY.

UH, THE, THE ISSUE IS WHAT LEGAL WE CAN DO.

UH, I THINK THAT WHAT, WHAT THIS BOIL DOWN TO, WELL, IN, IN THE STATE STATUTE SAYS MAY, SO WE MAY OR MAY NOT.

IT'S A, AND I THINK IT'S TIME

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FOR US TO TRY TO GET A HANDLE.

THE OTHER ISSUE I'VE GOT WITH THIS TOO, LIKE ON 2 36 AND S ROAD IS, WELL I WENT AND CLEANED IT ALL UP.

THIS GUY JUST KEEPS HOUSES UP DOWN THAT ROAD.

HE'S NO MORE RIGHT NOW.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE FIX ROAD, ROAD BACK UP BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE WAS COMING BY BARN COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ROAD.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS A TERRIBLE MESS UP THERE.

AND SO I TO SPEND GOOD MONEY ON IT AND DEVELOPER BY NOT DOING ANYTHING AND GIVING ME ALL THE PROBLEMS, THAT WAS ALL APPROVED BY THE CITY OF YEAH, I KNOW YEARS AGO.

BUT T HAD NO CONTROL THAT THAT WAS, YOU AND STEVE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THEY WON'T, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT HIM AND HE'S HAD LOTS OF PROBLEMS WITH WATER SYSTEM.

ALRIGHT, SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, ASK PEOPLE TO START OFF ESTATE DEALS.

TWO DEALS, MEANING TWO, TWO, UH, TRANSACTIONS OR TWO LOTS OR TWO 10 ACRE TRACKS.

OKAY.

WE'LL HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE.

UH, WE HAVE A SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

MOTION DIES FOR 19 SECOND, WHICH MEANS WE STILL GOT THE SAME ISSUE.

AND WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO DO GETS BACK JOB, HAVE A THIS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WORKSHOP NEXT MONDAY THE 16TH.

WE THIS AGENDA.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S SAYING AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SAYING.

IT'S JUST THAT WE DON'T WANT SET A PRECEDENT THAT WE MIGHT COME BACK AND REGRET WHEN YOU'RE ON.

AND I MEAN, I THINK I CAN KIND OF ARGUE BOTH WAYS, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE NEED TO CONDUCT.

WELL, UH, I JUST, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO MAKE, THIS WON'T BE RETROACTIVE UNLESS WE SPECIFY WITH IT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE PEOPLE WHO'VE WHO ALREADY DONE THIS RETROACTIVE WITH BE GRANDFATHER, I THINK THAT OPENED UP A WHOLE CANNIBAL.

YEAH.

AND UH, ALSO, WE DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE DEVELOPERS FROM COMING IN HERE.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GOING, IF THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP PROPERTY, WATER SYSTEM AND ALL THAT, THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S THEIR VALUE.

JUST SUPPLY WITH METERS AND ELECTRICITY AND ALL THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS DEVELOPMENT IN THE, AND I JUST DON'T TO GO THROUGH AND DO SOMETHING WHERE, LIKE I SAY EXEMPTS ARE SPECIFIED BY LAW.

I DUNNO WHY WE CAN'T DISCONTINUE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA SOLVE BY DEPARTMENT FOR 10 ACRES OR LESS.

IT WON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON ME BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT PRECINCT THAT'S NOT CONTROL OF THE CITY.

AND IN THE CITY'S FIVE ACRES, JUST LIKE ROAD UP THERE NOW ROAD, THERE'S ALL OF THEM GOTTA GO.

THEY CUT WHEN THEY NOT GONNA PAY ME.

IT'S NOT EVEN EVEN CLOSE ON THE RADAR.

AND THIS IS A GENTLEMAN THAT'S WAITING ON THE 9 1 1 ADDRESS.

JAMES, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT? NO, I MEAN, JUST, JUST TO KIND OF, UM, SUMMARIZE.

I MEAN, IF THEY MEET THE, THE SUDDEN STATUTORY EXEMPTIONS, THEN YOU CAN'T REQUIRE THE, THE, UM, THE PLOWING.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE COURT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANNA REQUIRE FLAG FOR ANYTHING UNDER THE 10 ACRES.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S YOUR DISCRETION.

YOU GUYS MAY DO THAT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

I THINK THE COUNTY ENGINEER, IF I THINKS IT'S

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A GOOD IDEA THAT WE DO THIS, IT'S JUST MORE A FORMALITY THAT WE KEEP A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT'S COMING IN.

IT'S NOT A MATTER OF US MAKING PEOPLE DO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GOOD OR GOOD OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S PROTECTS US HIM.

UH, YEAH.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MAYBE FOR A COUPLE OF YOU AND, UH, KATHY AND, UH, JOHN OR JAMES, UH, AND HIM TO MEET TOGETHER BEFORE WE MEET MONDAY TO IRON OUT WHAT ISSUES MAY BE.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, SINCE RAY DOESN'T HAVE ANY, PROPERTY'S GONNA BE INVITED, TOM CAN WORK WITH AND WITH, UH, THE, UH, ENGINEERING FIRM.

WE HAVE JOHN AND JAMES.

SO WE, WE'LL HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA AGAIN FOR MONDAY AT OUR WORKSHOP BECAUSE I KNOW WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO EXACTLY DOES CAUSE SOME UN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WE MIGHT ABSOLUTELY REGRET.

AND I, I, I UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, I, I SEE IT BOTH WAYS, BUT TO BE FAIR TO KATHY IN HER DEPARTMENT, WE DEPART.

YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE COUNTY POSITION BE, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT TOTALLY.

OKAY, SO WE, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY OF ANY OF THIS? OKAY, UH, KATHY, CAN YOU TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER? MAYBE IT'S YOUR OFFICE, PERHAPS.

AND UH, THEN MAYBE, UH, WE'LL NEED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR MONDAY, BUT MAYBE CAUSE THIS TO HAPPEN.

JUST JOHN JAMES TOO.

SO WE A CHANCE TO, OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THEN WE'LL, UH, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON AT POINT IN TIME.

WE'LL COME BACK MONDAY AT OUR SPECIAL MEETING AND DISCUSS IT FOR YOUR DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO, UH, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WARNING MEMBERS TO THE DISCIPLINARY SUSPENSION COMMITTEE.

AND I'VE ASKED TO COME FORTH AND, UH, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION YOU, UH, ARE SUGGESTING YOU RECEIVED FROM T WHY DON'T YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT? UM, THIS WAS CAME UP OF JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

WE AND I CONTACTED TAC ABOUT IT AND THEY ASKED IF WE HAD A POLICY IN PLACE AND I TOLD THEM NO AND THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE PUT ONE IN PLACE.

ALRIGHT, TELL US EXACTLY WHAT AN ISSUE IS.

UM, WELL THE ISSUE IS WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE THAT, UM, WAS SUSPENDED.

AND THIS EXCLUDES THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A POLICY THAT THEY MET VERY WELL.

THIS IS OTHER COUNTY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR, BUT WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE THAT WAS SUSPENDED.

HE ENDED UP RECEIVING ABOUT THREE WEEKS PAID OF ADMIN PAID.

UM, NOTHING WAS EVER DONE ABOUT THE SITUATION.

AND SO WE DIDN'T REALLY, WE HAD NO GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE SITUATION OR HOW THE SITUATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED.

SO THE EMPLOYEE ENDED UP RECEIVING, UM, THREE WEEKS OF JUST PAID LEAVE OR WHILE HE WAS ON , WHILE HE WAS ON SUSPICION.

SO, UM, THIS WOULD KIND OF HELP.

UM, IT'S NOT TO NECESSARILY, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE VERY WIDE, KIND OF JUST A GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT YOU CAN DO.

UM, ELECTED OFFICIALS, THEY CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, USE THEIR JUDGMENT AS TO, OKAY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS SERIOUS ENOUGH FOR SUSPENSION OR IS IT SOMETHING THEY CAN HANDLE IN THEIR HOUSE? ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO, UM, THE POLICY KIND OF JUST TALKS ABOUT WHAT THEY, WHAT IS A SUGGESTION TO THE, UM, ELECTED OFFICIALS DEPARTMENT, WHAT THEY CAN DO.

UM, AND THIS WAS A SAMPLE THAT I RECEIVED IN TAC AND WE DISCUSSED IT IN A WORKSHOP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

I WAS TOLD TO PUT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND SO I HAD TO PUT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER.

AND THIS COMMITTEE, THEY'VE ALL AGREED TO SERVE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE INCLUDED.

WE'RE GOING TO GATHER AND DISCUSS ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH, UM, HOW OF USE THE SAMPLES OF T AS A GUIDANCE AND GO FROM THERE.

WHAT THE ISSUE REALLY, I MEAN, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES I GUESS INVOLVED HERE, BUT WE HAVE ONE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A CONSISTENT POLICY EXCEPT THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT, WHICH THEY HAVE THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT THEY GO BY.

UH, BUT COUNTYWIDE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF DIRECTION FOR OUR OFFICIAL.

AND FROM TIME TO TIME WE'LL GET A CALL ABOUT WHAT SHOULD WE DO, HOW SHOULD WE HANDLE THIS? AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IN OUR FIRST.

SO, UH, THIS IS AN EFFORT TO DO THAT.

AND, UH, I GUESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, OR ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING?

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MY, IS I CONSISTENT? NOT CONSISTENT.

OKAY.

I WAS SURPRISED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A POLICY FOR THIS WHEN WE HAD THAT WORKSHOP.

SO I'M NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS.

WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO TODAY IS A POINT OF, AND UH, IF ANY OF YOU, I THINK WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER ON THERE, WE CAN, UH, IF ANY YOU WANNA, UH, I'M FINE WITH IT.

UH, I'VE GOT PLENTY COMMITTEES, UH, I'LL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS A STEP IN RIGHT DIRECTION AGAIN, THAT THESE ARE SOME THINGS WE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU LAWYERS DO THIS.

OKAY.

WE, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THIS COMMITTEE AS, UH, RECOMMENDED BY OUR HR DIRECTOR.

SO HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHANE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

THIS ISSUE.

AND, UH, THEN THE NEXT ISSUE IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND THAT'S TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, UH, APPROVING MODIFICATIONS TO THE VACATION POLICY.

WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US THE, THE BACKGROUND ON THIS TOO? THE VACATION POLICY, UM, WAS KIND OF CONTRADICTING.

SO WE, UM, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CHANGING ONE WORD.

UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

UM, AND IT JUST WOULD FINALIZE IT IN THE POLICY AT THE TOP OF THE POLICY, IT INDICATES THAT, UM, AN EMPLOYEE ACCRUES SO MANY HOURS PER MONTH OF VACATION TIME.

THEY ACCRUE IT FOR HOURS FOR YEARS THAT THEY'VE WORKED AND THEY ACCRUE IT ON A MONTH BASE, MONTH TO MONTH BASIS.

THEY DO NOT RECEIVE THAT LEAVE UNTIL THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE AND THEN AFTER THEIR FIRST YEAR, AFTER THEIR FIRST YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT.

SO ON THEIR, UM, AFTER THEY'VE BEEN HERE ON THEIR ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND THEY RECEIVE THEIR VACATION AND THEN IT INCREASES, UM, AFTER, THE PROBLEM WAS AT THE TIME OF TERMINATION, WE HAD IN THE POLICY THAT THE EMPLOYEE, UM, ONLY RECEIVES PAID FOR UNUSED LEAVE.

SO MEANING THEY WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO GET PAID FOR THE LEAVE ON THE BOOKS NOT LEAVE IF THEY HAD ACCRUED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SO, UM, WE WEREN'T DOING THAT.

WE WERE, UM, GIVING EMPLOYEES, THEY WERE GETTING CREDIT FOR TIME THAT THEY HAD, SO WE JUST NEEDED TO CHANGE THE POLICY TO INFL THAT.

SO IT'S A MATTER OF CHANGING ONE WORD IN, UH, I A TERMINATION.

THEY'LL RECEIVE PAY FOR ALL ACCRUED LEAVE INSTEAD OF UNUSED.

SO IF THEY STAY HERE, IF THEY'RE HERE EIGHT YEARS AND THEY LEAVE A MONTH BEFORE THEIR NINE YEAR ANNIVERSARY, THEY WOULD STILL RECEIVE LEAVE FOR THOSE 11 MONTHS A DAY.

UM, WORKED QUESTIONS EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHANGE THAT WE TO PUT INTO OUR POLICY UNDER PAY TERMINATION? YES.

THAT ONE WORD UNUSED APPROVE.

AND THIS BE WHERE IT SAYS PAY FOR ALL APPROVED CHANGE.

YEAH.

AND THE COPY Y'ALL RECEIVED IS WHAT IS THE CHANGE POLICY? I THINK IT'S CLARIFIES, UH, THINGS MORE SPECIFICALLY AND I KNOW IT'S, IT'S A GOOD CHANGE.

I WE ACCEPT THIS.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

I.

THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM AND THAT IS, UH, TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER A CONTRACT 45.

OKAY.

WE HAVE TO, UM, AND KAREN CAN HELP ME ON THIS .

UM, WE HAVE TO DO A, A REPORT FOR OUR, UM, OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AND IT'S, THEY CALL IT THE GA 45.

UM, THAT'S THE STANDS FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL COUNTY STANDARD.

AND THEY REQUIRE US TO REPORT EVERY, WE DO IT EVERY TWO YEARS AND WE USE THE SAME INFORMATION THROUGH THE YEAR BETWEEN.

UM, IN THE PAST WE HAVE USED, UM, A FIRM AND, UM, FOR THE, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE USED THE SAME FIRM AND, UM, IT JUST THAT NEGLECTED AND WE HAVEN'T DONE IT SO WE'RE A LITTLE LATE.

IT NEEDS TO BE DONE FAIRLY QUICKLY.

UM, BUT THEY HAVE A, UM, WE HAVE TO SIGN A NEW CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S A NEW, UM, YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THE, THEY'RE USING

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2012 DATA FOR THIS AUDIT AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.

WHICH LI UM, AND THEY USE THIS REPORT TO, UM, IN THE AUDIT WHEN THERE ARE OUTSIDE AUDITORS COME IN, IT SHOWS KIND OF LIABILITY OF WHAT WE ARE WITH, UM, LIKE OUR RETIREMENT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

PEOPLE RETIRING, WHAT BENEFITS THEY'RE GETTING, HEALTH BENEFITS, LIFE INSURANCE, ALL THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THEY USE THAT TO HELP US WITH OUR ALPHA AUDIT.

YOU OKAY? .

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND SO WE NEED TO, UM, UM, WE'VE CHECKED INTO, WE NEED TO CHECK INTO GOING WITH OTHER FIRMS, BUT WE'RE KIND OF ON A TIME CRUNCH RIGHT NOW.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST GO WITH THE CURRENT COMPANY THAT WE'VE BEEN USING AND THEN, UM, MAYBE ACT A LITTLE SOONER AND REACH OUT AND LOOK FOR OTHER FIRMS NEXT YEAR.

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THAT COMPANY? IT'S LIKE GABRIEL ROTOR SMITH COMPANY.

AND THAT'S THE FIRM WE'VE USED IN THE LAST TWO, THREE YEARS.

WHAT COST? UM, IT'S ABOUT $6,000.

THIS WOULD COME OUT.

PROFESSIONAL FEES.

OUR BUDGET I SUPPOSE.

YES.

THAT THAT'S THE FEE WE HAVE BEEN PAYING.

MM-HMM.

WE SUPPOSED GET A COPY OF THE CONTRACT.

UM, I DON'T, I DID RECEIVE IT AFTER, BUT I CAN GET Y'ALL, THIS WAS KIND OF PUT ON AT THE LAST MINUTE WHENEVER ALREADY EVERYTHING.

I THINK THE ONLY THING Y'ALL WAS FEE, UH, I DO HAVE A COPY OF THE CONTRACT.

I ASKED HIM TO GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO ME, BUT I DIDN'T NEED IT UNTIL AFTER.

BUT I CAN SEND YOU A COPY.

I'LL MOVE, ENTER THE CONTRACT PENDING, UH, REVIEW BY, BY THE ATTORNEY.

OKAY.

HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO APPROVE THIS CONTRACT WITH THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS, UH, GABRIEL ROTOR SMITH COMPANY.

OKAY.

UH, SUBJECT APPROVED BY THE OFFICIAL ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

MR. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED MOTION.

THANK YOU.

UH, AND NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER NINE.

THE, UH, AUDITORS REPORT FROM, UH, KAREN COOPER FOR NOVEMBER 20.

THIS.

OKAY.

UH, YOUR REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND CAME IN AT ALMOST 11%.

YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT 13.4%.

YOUR REVENUES FOR THE REVENUE BRIDGE ARE AT 11%.

AT 7% WE'RE, UH, THEY WE'RE GETTING TO SEE OUR TAX REVENUE COMES IN AND OUR, OUR TAX OFFICE WILL BE GIVING US HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NOTHING UNUSUAL, NOTHING STANDARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? YOU COMPLAIN TO ME SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE THE HEARING.

SO AGAIN, SPAN IT WAS TROUBLE ALL THE TIME.

UH, WHENEVER YOU HAVE A FUNDS UP ALL MONEY, IT'S, THERE'S A CERTAIN DOLLAR MAP FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY.

BUT IS THAT NOT ALSO ALL THAT MONEY IN ONE ACCOUNT? UH, SEVERAL OF OUR FUNDS, C BRIDGE GENERAL ARE ALL IN THE GENERAL OPERATING BANK ACCOUNT, NOT GENERAL FUND.

IT'S A CONSOLIDATED POOL CASH.

RIGHT, THE INTEREST.

SO IS THAT MONEY, IS THAT MONEY EVER USED TO? BECAUSE WHEN WE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CASH FLOW PROBLEM COLLECTING OUR TAXES FROM OCTOBER TO UH, 1ST OF JANUARY, IS THAT MONEY EVER USED TO OFFSET BORROW MONEY FROM SOMETHING ELSE TO PAY EXPENSES? USUALLY THE COUNTY TREASURER WILL HOLD THE CHECKS TILL HE GETS SOME MONEY IN, UNLESS WE HAVE HIS MONEY IN OUR, UH, MONEY MARKET INVESTMENT ACCOUNT, WE MIGHT TRANSFER TO COVER SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES.

LIKE LAST YEAR HE WAS SITTING ON QUITE A FEW CHECKS THAT WOULD UNTIL THE TAX MONEY CAME IN BEFORE HE WOULD RELEASE.

SO IS THAT, SO THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS IN ROAD BRIDGE, CAN THAT MILLION DOLLARS IN BRIDGE THAT DIDN'T COME FROM ROAD BRIDGE TAXES THAT CAME FROM FINES AND FEES OR WHATEVER.

IS THAT MONEY USED TO PAY

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EXPENSES OVERALL IN THE GOVERNMENT? NO.

NO, BECAUSE WE UH, WE WATCHED THE BANK ACCOUNTS, CASH ACCOUNTS.

WE DON'T LIKE FOR THEM TO GO INTO A NEGATIVE ALL EACH ACCOUNT, EACH ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT NEVER GOES INTO A NEGATIVE DEAL.

RIGHT.

WHAT DOES EVER GO? IS THERE EVER TAKEN ONE ACCOUNT TO MOVE TO ANOTHER ACCOUNT TO MAKE IT? UH, NOT ON MY SIDE.

I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T DO IT.

I WOULDN'T DO THAT.

I'D HAVE TO COME TO Y'ALL AND ASK FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WANTING ANOTHER FUNDS OF MONEY AND WE'VE DONE THAT.

LIKE WHEN WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA GET BOND MONEY IN, WE WOULD PAY THE GENERAL FUND BACK FOR SOME LIKE THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE ARMORY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT OTHERWISE MOVING THE MONEY AROUND AND TRANSFERRING MONEY TO COVER, NO.

AND I WOULD ASSUME THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS WOULD PICK UP ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YES, THEY, THEY WILL LOOK AT THE BANK ACCOUNTS AND THEY ALSO LOOK AT THE PLEDGE COLLATERAL THAT THE BANK SEND AND SEE WHAT REMAINING BALANCE AND WHAT YOU HAD PLEDGED AT THAT TIME AND WHAT YOUR BALANCES WERE.

THEY'LL TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS AND LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE NOTHING LIKE THAT IS HAPPENING.

SO WE COULD HAVE $70 MILLION IN THE BANK AND STILL NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY BILLS.

YES SIR.

MOST DEFINITELY.

ALRIGHT, OTHER, OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS UNDER ROAD BRIDGE? UH, IT SHOWS THAT OUR REVENUES, THE LAST LINE THERE IS 5.04 AND EXPENDITURE IS 9.61.

YES SIR.

LOOK AT IT.

YOU ONLY BROUGHT IN 422,000 BUT YOUR EXPENSES FOR ALL FOUR PRECINCTS FOR THAT MONTH, A SIX, THAT'S, UH, ON YOUR PAYROLL STUFF TOO AND INSURANCES.

HOPEFULLY THAT'LL CHANGE, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE THAT CARRY OVER, BEGINNING BALANCE CARRY OVER.

THE OTHER QUESTION BEFORE I'M TO ACCEPT THE AUDITOR COURT.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MAN.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS, UH, GIVE US AN UPDATE IT ON YOU HAD A ROOM GO DOWN AND VISIT, UH, THE SMITH COUNTY.

IS THAT WHERE Y'ALL ARE? WE WENT TO, UH, TYLER TECHNOLOGIES.

WE BROUGHT 23 PEOPLE UP THERE TO DISCUSS OUR, OUR, UH, JUDGE, I THINK WE PAUL AND BOBBY TO ENGINEER AN IPAD LIT FOR THIS.

OH, OKAY.

UM, GENTLEMEN AND LADIES, I WANT TO JUST SAY WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE IN OUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING TO HAVE OUR COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER SHANE SHOW UP, TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE TO BE WITH US.

IN FACT, COMM SHANE ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERED TO BE PART OF OUR GROUP AND HELP US AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT AND WE MISS GREAT CLARK, COMMISSIONER CLARK.

I THINK HE WAS BUSY THAT DAY.

SO I THINK THAT MEETING IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW SUCCESSFUL WE CAN BE WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM.

SO THE LAST ITEM WE DISCUSSED WAS IN TERRELL, THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH THE DATA WITH THE COPPER THAT GOES FROM THE DA FROM THE END OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PHONE COMPANY, WHICH IS AT T BACK TO THE CENTRAL OFFICER C AND IN THE DISCUSSIONS OUR COUNTY JUDGE MENTIONED HE KNEW A MAN NAMED DENNIS BAILEY, WHO HAPPENS TO BE, WHO LIVES IN HEATH, WHO IS A COMMISSIONER IN HUNT COUNTY, WHO HAPPENS TO BE ROCKWELL COUNTY, WHO WAS WAY UP ON A FOOD CHAIN WITH AT T.

SO WE WENT TO TERRELL, WE MET, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE FIRST COMMISSIONER I'VE EVER MET TO WHERE'S A PIGTAIL OR PONYTAIL.

INTERESTING.

BUT APPARENTLY HE HAS QUITE A LOT OF CL BECAUSE LATER ON THE DAY, I DON'T THINK IT WASN'T THAT DAY OR THE NEXT DAY THAT WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM AT AND T THAT THEY WERE IN FACT IN THE WORK WAS IN PROGRESS TO COMPLETE AND FIX THE PROBLEM THERE.

AND, UH, IT WAS GREAT.

I I GUESS THE GUY KNOWS TONY SOPRANO.

I DON'T KNOW, HE JUST GOT THINGS DONE REALLY QUICK.

BUT THAT GOES TO THE FIRST ITEM WE WERE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND THAT IS, UM, WE HEARD FROM THERESA AND NIKKI ABOUT OUR SOFTWARE, UM, FROM LINE BOGER THAT WE WANT TO, THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO, TO COLLECT TAXES.

AND THERE ARE A FEW HOUSEKEEPING THINGS WE HAD TO DO.

AND ONE OF 'EM RELATES TO THE ISSUE OF TARRELL.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS

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A GOOD IDEA TO VALIDATE OR DO PROOF OF CONCEPT OF WHAT A VENDOR RECOMMENDS OR SAYS WILL WORK.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO TAKE THE WEAKEST OR THE MOST INEFFICIENT AREA OF REMOTE SITE AND TEST.

SO THE DELAY WAS WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS UP AND RUNNING.

SO, UM, WHAT WE DID THIS PAST WEEK, WE WENT TO KIM.

TURNS OUT KEMP IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME SITUATION AS TERL.

WE DIDN'T WANNA DELAY ANY FURTHER BECAUSE I THINK, THINK OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTORS IS ANXIOUS TO GET THAT ON THE AGENDA.

SO THERESA AND NICKI DOWN THERE.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TESTED THE REMOTE LOCATION WITH A TEST SITE AT THE, BY THE WAY, THIS IS HOSTED SOFTWARE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE CARE AND FEEDING OF MORE SERVERS.

IT'S ALL NEVER REMOTE.

SO WE WENT TO THE REMOTE LOCATION AND WE TESTED IT THERE.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY'RE THE EXPERTS.

WE WANTED THEM TO WORK WITH THE SOFTWARE BEFORE WE COME TO COURT.

AND I THINK FROM A DATA OF BANDWIDTH PERSPECTIVE, IT DID FAIRLY WELL.

DO YOU WANT TO SAY A WORD OR TWO? IT, IT DID DO WELL.

WE DID GO IN AND PULL UP SOME PROPERTY IDS THAT THEY GAVE US, SOME TEST IDS TO LOOK AT AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT LAGGED A LITTLE, BUT I MEAN FOR THIS WHERE WE'RE AT, AT A REMOTE LOCATION, IT'S BEEN DOING THAT, BUT IT WORKED REALLY WELL.

I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE, EVERYTHING PULLED UP AND EVERYTHING WENT THROUGH.

WE TOOK PAYMENTS, WE POSTED DIFFERENT STUFF AND IT, IT WORKED VERY WELL.

SO THE ONLY CONSTRAINT WE RECOGNIZE THOUGH IS WE, WE HAVE TO USE INTERNET EXPLORER NINE OR OLDER JOB OF 1.6 0.2 OR OLDER.

AND THESE ARE ISSUES WHICH OVER TIME WHEN WE RESOLVED.

BUT, UM, ALL IN ALL, I GUESS WE'RE READY AND I THINK WE NEEDED TO GET WITH JOHN LONG.

I THINK HE ALREADY LOOKED AT THE CONTRACT AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

SO I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

SO WHEN WE COME TO COURT FROM OUR VIEW, I THINK, I THINK WE'LL BE APPRECIATED.

UM, ANOTHER ITEM WE TALKED ABOUT WAS BACK TO WHAT KATHY WAS SPEAKING OF EARLIER.

AS AS YOU KNOW, FOR ABOUT TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THE EXPERTISE IN HOUSE TO DO MAPPING AND GIS UH, TRAGICALLY THAT'S THE CASE.

SO OUR GOAL, WHAT WE'VE DECIDED TO DO, AND WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AND WENT REPORT ON THIS, WE WOULD, UH, JOIN THE APPRAISAL OFFICE AND USE BIS CONSULTING REMOTELY, HOST AND MANAGER, OUR MAP SERVER.

UM, THIS PAST WEEK WE BEGAN TO PROCESS, UM, THE FOLKS FROM BIS HAVE REACHED OUT TO SOUTHERN SOFTWARE.

AND WHAT WE'VE WORKED ON IS A METHOD TO PROVIDE, UH, MAPS IN REAL TIME TO OUR DISPATCH CENTER AND TO THE CARS.

AND THE ADVANTAGE TO OUR APPROACH IS SINCE LL FORNEY, HOPEFULLY HOFFMAN AT SOME POINT IN CRANDALL ON SOUTHERN SOFTWARE, ONCE WE GO LIVE WITH THIS, NOT ONLY WILL WE PROVIDE REALTIME DATA AND MAPS IN THE DISPATCH CENTERS, WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE IT AT THE SAME TIME TO THE POLICE AGENCIES AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER, UM, THE AGENCY'S CARS AS WELL.

SO WE'LL ALL BE UP TO DATE AND CURRENT ON THAT.

ANOTHER ISSUE WE'RE WORKING ON IS IN THE PAST IF THE DEPUTY WAS IN PURSUIT, THEY HAD A GOOD VIEW OF THE COUNTY, BUT WHEN THEY LEFT THE COUNTY, WHEN THEY LEFT THE COUNTY, WHEN IT IS A VAN OR HUNT COUNTY, THERE WAS NO MAP.

SO THERE THEY'RE NOT AS GONNA BE ON MARS, THEY CAN'T SEE ANYTHING IN FRONT OF THEM.

SO WE'RE FIXING THAT AS WELL.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT TO WHERE THEY HAVE GOOD RELIABLE MAP DATA.

IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF WHAT THE COD PROVIDES AND POSSIBLY GOOGLE MAP AS WELL.

KATHY, I KNOW YOU'RE INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL, SO IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY THIS LONG TIME, ABOUT 27 YEARS, IS TRYING TO GET THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT USING THE SAME MAPPING SOFTWARE.

BUT MY, MY DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED, I, WE STARTED DOING 9 1 1 ADDRESSING IN 1992.

MY DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED IN NINE EIGHT.

THE GOAL THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD WAS TO ALL OF US BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY USING DIFFERENT SOFTWARES AND THEY'VE GOT SOME DATA HERE.

WE'VE GOT SOME DATA HERE.

WE GOT SOME DATA HERE AND WE ALMOST, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, HAD IT MERGED TO WHERE EVERYBODY'S GONNA USE THE SAME THING.

AND THEN THAT FELL APART.

SO BEFORE GEORGE AND I RETIRE, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN AND I THINK WE'RE JUST, WE'RE RIGHT THERE AND MAKE IT HAPPEN THAT WE HAD DATA IN REAL TIME.

WHEN WE ISSUE A NINE ONE ADDRESS, THE ADDRESS POINT IS PUT ON OUR MAP, IT GOES STRAIGHT TO FRESNO DISTRICT, IT CONNECTS WITH THAT PARCEL DATA AND THEN IT GOES BROADCAST EVERYBODY ELSE, IT'LL GO TO THE CO IT'LL GO TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

EVERYBODY HAS IT WITHIN 30 MINUTES.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE.

SO OUR ADVANTAGE, HER TEAM WILL BE WORKING ON THE MAPS THAT ARE AT VIS CONSULTING THAT WILL BE PUSHED TO THE COG THAT WILL BE PUSHED TO ALL THE AGENCIES.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING HER TEAM WORK ON A PC, WORKING ON A MAP AND THEN SENDING IT, IT'LL HAPPEN AT VVIS CONSULTING AND THEN GO BACK TO THE COG AND GO OUT TO THE AGENCY.

SO, UM, THEY'VE

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COMMITTED TO A JANUARY ONE GO LIVE OF THE MAPS.

AND WHAT WE'LL HAVE NOW IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, YOU'LL AUTHENTICATE TO A MAP SERVER WITH YOUR CREDENTIALS, WHETHER IT BE A DEPUTY OR CID OR WHOEVER.

THERE'LL BE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ACCESS.

SOME THINGS WE CANNOT CAN AND CANNOT SEE.

SO THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE ROADS AND SO ON.

BUT PARCEL DATA AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'LL BE UNDER THE CONTROL OF, YOU KNOW, KATHY'S AREA, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

BUT IF WE NEED INFORMATION LIKE PIPELINES AND SO ON, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE A MUCH DEEPER VIEW OF IT BECAUSE OF THE PUBLICITY, BUT HOPEFULLY BY JANUARY ONE WE SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING WITH THAT.

AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE POP.

SO HERE'S THE COST.

SO THE DIFFERENCE IS WE CAN HIRE AN SRI CERTIFIED PERSON.

YOU, WE COULD HIRE SOMEONE, TWO PEOPLE ON PAYROLL AND SPEND 60 OR $70,000, YOU KNOW, FOR ONE PROBABLY, MAYBE ONE AND A HALF BODIES WOULD BE WORTH 70, 80,000.

THIS WOULD PROCESS 10,000 A YEAR.

PLUS WE HAVE TO PAY 5,000 A YEAR FOR LICENSING.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S TODAY IT IS, WE HAVE TWO LICENSES.

MM-HMM.

SO WE USE THEIR ESRI LICENSEES, SO THAT COST GOES AWAY.

AND OUR TOTAL COST THAT WE COMMITTED TO IS 10,000 BUCKS.

AND DO WE HAVE THAT IN THE IT BUDGET? YES.

THAT I, I GAVE WHEN I REPORTED HERE DURING OUR BUDGET HEARINGS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS AND INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF, RIGHT.

THE WELL THIS WILL TAKE CARE A BIG PROBLEM FOR US.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THIS, UH, I, I APPRECIATE THE APPRAISAL GETTING US INVOLVED AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THESE FOLKS.

WE HAD A MEETING OVER THERE, WHAT ABOUT SIX OR NINE MONTHS AGO AND GOT THE BALL ROLLING.

SO IT'S JUST A WIN-WIN FOR ALL OF US.

ANOTHER ITEM WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING THING AND UM, FORTUNATELY WE HAVE, UH, PAM QUARTER WHO'S I GUESS GOING TO SHARE THAT AND GET GOING.

BUT YOU KNOW, JUDGE, I MUST ADMIT, AFTER WE LAST MET, I KIND OF BEAT THE BUSHES A LITTLE BIT AND I FOUND MUCH TO MY SURPRISE THAT WHILE BACK IN OH 5, 0 6, 0 7 IN THOSE YEARS, IT WAS THE BIG THING.

IN FACT, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE GETTING AWAY FROM THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING AND ACCOUNT GOVERNMENT REALLY.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I FOUND OUT WITHIN THE LAST MONTH.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I FOUND.

IT'S STRANGE, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT.

AND IT'S, IT'S A GOOD FAVORABLE AND I THINK WE HAVE A COMMITTEE TOGETHER, DIFFERENT FOLKS WHO YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, GIVE DIFFERENT PARTS, DIFFERENT PARTS OF, BUT I THINK THAT'LL BE ONE WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE MEETING, RIGHT? SO WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE REASON THAT THE COUNTY AS YOU'RE GETTING AWAY FROM YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

IT STRANGE.

I GOT A HOLD OF FOLKS THAT WE INVOLVED WITH DOWN AT SARAH, YOU KIND OF CALLED AROUND AND THAT AND UH, ACTUALLY COMMITTING THINGS IS KIND OF THAT PROBABLY , WHO KNOWS? BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING IF WE WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM IN A COMMITTEE COMMITTEE ENVIRONMENT, I THINK WE'RE MORE SUCCESSFUL.

A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM THAT TOO.

WE, WHICH MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE US.

I MEAN IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO CERTAIN THING WE SHOULD CONTINUE ON WITH STRATEGIC PLAN, WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER COUNTIES, PAM PAM'S BEEN LOOKING AT.

BUT UH, THAT'S ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OPERATION, BUT WE'VE GOTTA DO THAT.

OR ANY GRANTS THAT WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR DOWN.

SO, UH, I MEAN THAT'S JUST THE GRANT THAT WE GOT FROM THE PROSECUTORS.

YOU KNOW, THE MURDER CASES, WE, THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS.

THEY HAVE PLAN MIGRATION.

GEORGE TALKING ABOUT MIGRATION AWAY STRATEGIC PLAN WAS VERY SPECIFIC IN THE PAST AND PROBABLY COULDN'T MEET THEIR GOALS OR WHATEVER.

LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF POLITICAL PART IN THERE WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING DO THIS AND THEN YOU FIND OUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING THERE.

I THINK OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO BE VERY GENERIC, TO GET, TO GET THE, WELL, IT SHOULD BE A HALF HANDFUL.

GEORGE.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED APPROVAL ON ANYTHING HERE.

UH, I WE JUST NEED TO BRIEFLY BRING THE FOLKS UP TODAY.

A COMMON NUMBERING SYSTEM.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE BRIEF HISTORY ON THAT IS, UM, THERE WAS A TIME, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WELL BACK WHEN KEN LEONARD WAS HERE, HE WAS ONE, ONE OF THE FOLKS WHO WAS REALLY FOR GETTING US.

AND WHEN LAURA FIRST CAME HERE, WE WERE AN OLD CHARACTER BASED SOFTWARE, UH, APPLICATION FROM GSA.

THEY WANTED SOMETHING MORE PROGRESSIVE AND BETTER.

AND WE, TYLER TECHNOLOGY.

NOW TYLER,

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IF YOU LOOK, THEY ARE IN THE LARGEST, MOST PROGRESSIVE COUNTIES IN THE STATE.

IN FACT, WE'RE IN MOST OF THE COUNTIES.

WE WERE THE FIRST.

HOWEVER, AT THE TIME, PROSECUTOR WAS NOT WRITTEN YET.

AS WE DEVELOPED, WE PURCHASED IT, WE PURCHASED TYLER WITH THE IDEA OF A PROSECUTOR OR ATTORNEY, MANAGER JUST CALLED DOWN AS AVAILABLE.

WE WOULD HAVE IT AND JUST PAY FOR IMPLEMENTATION.

SO, SO AT THE TIME, UH, THEY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS STILL ON GSA AND THEN, AND AT A LATER TIME, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LOOKED AT GOING TO TYLER.

BUT A LOT OF THE FUNCTIONALITY THAT WE NEEDED OUT THERE, UH, A LOT OF THINGS FOR EVIDENCE COLLECTION AND BACK IN THE JAIL AND SO ON, DID NOT HAVE, SO AT THE TIME, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CHOSE SOUTHERN SOFTWARE, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD PRODUCT FOR, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICES.

WELL, THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE, WE LACK INTEGRATION FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO HEAR.

AND OF COURSE IT CAUSES A MIRROR OF PROBLEMS WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL THOSE, UM, WITH, UH, THE JUDGE AND OUR DA'S LEADERSHIP, WE, WE'VE GOTTEN TOGETHER AND WE STARTED WORKING ON A PLAN TO HAVE A COMMON NUMBERING SYSTEM.

SO STEP ONE WAS TO ENGAGE TYLER OR TO ENGAGE SOUTHERN SOFTWARE.

THEY'VE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

IN FACT, THERE IS FUNCTIONALITY IN THEIR SOFTWARE THAT WILL RECEIVE A NUMBER, UM, PROVIDED BY THE DA.

AND SO THE DA'S GOAL IS TO ISSUE, IT BLOCKS THE NUMBERS TO EVERY AGENCY THAT FILES CASES IN HER OFFICE.

SO WHEN IT COMES THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR, WHEN IT COMES THROUGH BOOKING THAT NUMBER, WHETHER IT BE CRANDALL, WILL BE A PRE-ASSIGNED NUMBER FROM THE, THERE'LL BE A BLOCK OF NUMBERS THAT WITHOUT REGARDS TO THEIR UNDERLYING SOFTWARE, WHEN THEY FILE THE CASE OF THE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE A WAY OF SOUTHERN TO APPLY THE NUMBER AND BRING IT FORWARD.

THE ISSUE BECOMES HOW DO WE, WHAT DO WE DO WITH TYLER? SO WE, WE BROUGHT A TEAM, WE PUT A TEAM TOGETHER, WE WENT TO TYLER TECHNOLOGIES LAST WEEK.

UM, WE HAD ABOUT, I THINK 23 OF US ALL TOGETHER.

WE HAD ABOUT NINE IN THE DA'S OFFICE.

WE HAD JPS REPRESENTED AND YOU KNOW, THE CLERKS OF THE COURT WERE THERE.

AND IT GOES RIGHT BACK TO THE ISSUE OF ATTORNEY, MANAGER, PROSECUTOR WHEN IT CAN AVAILABLE FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO.

THAT WAS HIS TIME TO, TO TAKE IT.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS PUSHBACK.

SOME FOLKS DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE BUSINESS PRACTICE WOULD CHANGE.

SO THE PERCEPTION IS TYLER IS SOMEHOW FLAWED, THEIR SOFTWARE DOESN'T WORK.

WELL, THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM.

IF IT BECOMES A GOVERNANCE ISSUE, ONCE WE GET TOGETHER, WORK OUT, YOU KNOW, THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND THE METHOD TO FORWARD WITH PROSECUTOR OR ATTORNEY, MANAGER WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AND WILL EASILY BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE ONE NUMBERING SYSTEM AND BE ABLE TO BRING THOSE NUMBERS IN FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND WE ALSO WILL BE, OUR SOFTWARE WILL BE THE SAME AS COLLIN COUNTY, DAN COUNTY, DALLAS COUNTY.

UH, THE BIG COUNTY'S GOING DOWN 35 TO AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, WILLIAMSON AND WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE THERE WILLIAMSON.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE COUNTIES THAT ARE ON SILENT TODAY THAT USE THE TERM, WE JUST NEED TO GET TO THAT POINT.

THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS, THE BAD NEWS, IT'S GONNA COST MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND THE, AND THE, AND YOU KNOW, THE PUSHBACK IS ALWAYS, WELL WE, WE SHOULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA COST MONEY.

WELL, IT'S GONNA COST MONEY.

SO WE JUST NEED TO WORK ON THAT PART.

BUT WE NEED TO DO IT.

AND OUR DA'S NOT HERE, BUT WHEN WE NEED VISIT WITH HER TO FIND OUT THAT SHE'S ON BOARD TO DO THIS, AND WE WILL SHORT ORDER, HAVE A QUOTE TO IMPLEMENT.

AGAIN, WE OWN PROSECUTOR, ATTORNEY MANAGER, BUT WILL BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BORDERLINE WITH THE PRODUCT.

JUST CONSIDER IT ANOTHER MOTOR GRADE, A DUMP TRUCK.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

BUT IT'S GONNA COST.

SO BASICALLY THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

WE'VE MADE PROGRESS WITH SOUTHERN.

THEY CAN, THEY CAN HELP US AT NO COST BASICALLY.

TYLER COULD TOO.

WE COULD, YOU KNOW, JUST THROW A NUMBER IN THERE.

BUT WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AT TYLER, WE BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE LIKE ALL THE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE.

USE ATTORNEY MARY, THE WAY IT'S SO, SO AS FAR AS THE PAINT SOURCES FOR REVENUE FROM SOME, FROM THE DA'S OFFICE, HOW I, WHAT KIND OF MONEY WE'RE TALKING, I DON'T HAVE CHOICE OF THE, SO KAREN AND JACK, WERE WE, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY OF THAT WHATSOEVER, BUT, UH, THAT'S GOTTA BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

IT'S SO WE HAVE, WE WILL, HERE, HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS.

JOHN GALBRATH OUR REP, HE HAS TO SUBMIT THE INFORMATION TO A TEAM THAT COMES UP WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT

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QUOTES.

OKAY? AND IT, IT INVOLVES HOW MANY USERS WE HAVE, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THEY HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING THEIR HEAD AROUND THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS BECAUSE WE CAN THINK VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY DOES.

SO THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND OUR BUSINESS PRACTICE BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN MOVE FORWARD TO IMPLEMENT, BECAUSE WE NEVER TOOK ATTORNEY MANAGER.

SO THEY HAVE, IT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY, WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN IS THEY TOOK CASE MANAGER AND THEY MODIFIED IT.

SO THERE WAS FUNCTIONALITY FOR THE DA, BUT IT'S NOT A CHIEF PROSECUTOR OR ATTORNEY MANAGER PACKAGE.

AND THAT PROSECUTOR, ATTORNEY MANAGER PACKAGE ALSO INCLUDES SOFTWARE FOR OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER.

SO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER CAN ALSO BE ON ODYSSEY AND ALL THE FINANCIAL REPORTS AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I THINK THE AUDITOR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE WOULD NOW BE ABLE THAT YOU CAN SEE IT.

WHEREAS NOW YOU DON'T.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER ADVANTAGE WE'LL BRING HIM INTO, INTO OUR GROUP AS FAR.

SO, SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? WE WILL RECEIVE SOME NUMBERS FROM JOHN.

UH, WE WERE THERE LAST WEEK.

I SUSPECT WE'LL HAVE NUMBERS.

PROBABLY WE, WEDNESDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, THIS WEEK.

WORKSHOP.

THOSE WORK WE CAN PUT ON A WORKSHOP.

OKAY.

QUESTION AARON? EVERYTHING SAID.

YEAH.

WELL, I'M KIND OF JUST CURIOUS, BUT AARON, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I DID.

I JUST KNOW THAT, UH, BRIAN WILSON WITH TIDC, HE WAS REAL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SOFTWARE FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

AND HE SAID THAT IF WE COULD FIND SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD PROBABLY HELP US WITH SOME OF THE FUNDS.

OKAY.

SO THEIR PART MIGHT BE COVERED.

JUST DEPENDS ON HOW THEY WRITE A PRO WRITE SHERIFF BETWEEN ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

THAT'S SHERIFF.

YOU HAVE ANY, ANY IDEAS, ANY COMMENTS? WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A, A PROBLEM WE'VE HAD, UH, AND IT'S VERY PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, BIG PROBLEM IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BECAUSE THE, UH, APPEAL NUMBER, THE DUAL AMOUNTS, MANY NUMBERS.

UH, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE YOU LET OUT JAIL THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LET OUT OF JAIL, UH, AND PEOPLE KEPT IN JAIL.

THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN KEPT IN JAIL BECAUSE OF NUMBERS.

UH, WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, THE JP GENERATES A NUMBER, YOU KNOW, THE DA GENERATES A NUMBER, THE CLERK'S OFFICE, SOMETIMES IT GENERATES NUMBERS.

SO WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE NUMBERS AND WE CAN'T TIE 'EM TOGETHER.

AND, AND AT THE END OF THAT IS A BODY, YOU KNOW, A HUMAN BEING THAT WE'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH.

SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE PAST THE TIME.

WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO DO IT WHEN TWO DAS AGO.

UH, AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS SERIOUSLY AND, AND DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, IT ANYTHING, WHETHER THERE'S A WHEEL, THERE'S A WAY.

YEAH.

AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT AT, AT A VERY ECONOMICAL COST.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE, YOU KNOW, PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BECAUSE SOUTHERN IS, HAS, UH, COME FORWARD AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY ACCOMMODATING AND HAVE BEEN SINCE IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE UP OUR MIND TO DO IT.

SO NOW I, I'M, I'M STARTING TO GET THE PICTURE.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE USING A SYSTEM WHERE IF, IF SOMEBODY IS, IS ARRESTED OR STARTS A CASE IN JP COURT, AND THEN IT MOVES EACH, EACH ENTITY LIKE THE JP COURT OR THE DA OR THE A DA OR WHATEVER, ARE THEY PUTTING A DIFFERENT NUMBER ON EACH CASE? NO, WHEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FILES A CASE IN, THERE'S AN INTAKE PROCESS IN THE DA'S OFFICE WHERE IT'S ASSIGNED A NUMBER OF CASE MANAGER.

THAT NUMBER CONTINUES FORWARD.

THE PROBLEM IS WHAT WE, WHEN I, WE DO SOME SIGNED THE , OKAY.

THEY'RE LOOKING THAT WE HAVEN'T INTAKE CASE YET.

SO ARE, WE'RE DEALING WITH NUMBERS IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT ODYSSEY DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.

SO WE HAVE FOLKS IN THE COURTHOUSE TRYING TO LEARN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CREATING AN ORDER FOR A JUDGE TO FIND A GRANT, AN ATTORNEY ON A PERSON THAT'S NOT IN CASE MANAGER, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

BUT IF THE DA ASSIGNS US THE NUMBERS, THEN THAT NUMBER WILL BE A PART OF THE CASE.

WELL BEFORE INTAKE.

IT MIGHT NOT BE INTAKE, IT COULD BE A GRAND JURY REFERRAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY DO VINTAGE, BUT THE GOAL IS FOR THE DA TO TELL US THIS IS, THESE ARE YOUR NUMBERS.

BEGIN HERE WITH IT.

AND THAT NUMBER WILL FLOW ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

SO WE'LL KNOW.

SO NOW IF SUE OR SOMEONE'S DOING AN APPEAL, WHO KNOWS.

IF THEY LOOK AT THE CASE AND CASE MANAGER, THAT NUMBER IS THERE AND THEY CAN GO BACK TO SOUTHERN AND THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS MY CASE IN SOUTHERN, THEY CAN LOOK AT TO SOUTHERN, OF COURSE THE PERFECT WORLD WOULD BE FOR US TO BE INTEGRATED ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND HAVE THE SAME SOFTWARE PLATFORM.

THE REALITY IS, WE DON'T.

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SO THIS IS JUST A WAY TO, BUT THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA WORK OUR PAPERWORK.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS THEY INTAKE IT.

SO THEY'RE GONNA SAY, YOU WANT TO FILE A CASE IN, IN, IN COUNTY, DA, HERE'S YOUR NUMBER, USE IT AND THAT'LL FIX IT.

WE JUST NEED TO GET IT DONE AND MAKE IT WORK.

SO, AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD.

AND WE'VE MADE THIS FIELD TRIP TO TYLER, BUT EVERY LAST, I DUNNO, EVERY DA WE GO UP, YOU KNOW, WE TRY IT FOLKS, WE NEED ATTORNEY MANAGER.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS A REASON WE CAN'T DO IT.

YOU KNOW, FOLKS DON'T WANT TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW, WE LEARNED IT THIS WAY, THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO DO IT.

YOU KNOW, THIS COUNTY DOESN'T WORK.

WE GOTTA DO IT.

WILL THERE BE A LOT OF TRAINING INVOLVED WITH MOVEMENT THROUGH THIS NEW, WELL, HERE, HERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE, RIGHT? YOU BROUGHT UP THAT POINT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SOFT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLEXITY THAT WE WOULD, IT WOULD GO AWAY.

SO TODAY YOU HAVE FOLKS IN THE DA'S OFFICE WASTING A LOT OF TIME LOOKING FOR STUFF AND DOING STUFF THAT'LL GO AWAY.

SO NOW YOU TAKE PRODUCTIVITY AND YOU, YOU RAISE THE BAR ON PRODUCTIVITY BECAUSE THE SOFT COSTS GO DOWN.

SOFT COSTS, I MEAN PAYROLL, WHAT I'M SAYING, RIGHT? SO WITH MORE, WITH A MORE EFFICIENT STREAMLINED SYSTEM THAT WE KNOW WORKS, IT IS WELL VALIDATED BECAUSE EVERY OTHER COUNTY DOES IT.

WE'RE DOING IT AS THE OTHERS ARE, SOFT COSTS GO DOWN AND WE'RE MORE PRODUCTIVE.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK AT.

WE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PRODUCTIVITY SIDE, RIGHT? BECAUSE OUR CONTRACT CONTRACT, SO NOW SOUTHERN WE OWN, WE HAVE ONE MORE PAYMENT FOR SOUTHERN AND WE OWN IT AND WE'LL PAY ANNUAL MAINTENANCE.

UH, WE OWN TYLER, ALL WE'RE PAYING IS, IS ANNUAL MAINTENANCE OUT, COME OUT CHEAPER WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW, CHEAPER TO STAY WHERE WE'RE AT.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA SAY WITH HIGHLIGHT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO IMPLEMENT A MODULE THAT WE HAVE OWNED FOR 10 YEARS THAT WE NEVER IMPLEMENTED, YOU KNOW, BUT GO TO THE EXPENSE SIDE.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE US TO DO IS GO TO A, A HOSTED SOLUTION DOWN THE ROAD AND ELIMINATE A LOT OF CARE AND FEEDING COSTS.

AND CERTAINLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANOTHER ANOTHER SOFTWARE APPLICATION, WE'RE JUST GONNA HIT THEM.

MINE WE'VE OWNED FOR 10 YEARS AND JUST NEVER DID.

SO THIS ADDRESS PROBATION TOO.

THAT IS A, THAT IS, HOW DO I, HOW DO I SAY IT GENERAL, THAT PRO DELL PROBATION HAS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL DATA.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT LIVE IN 2000, 2004, MS. TYLER, WE INSTALL AN ODYSSEY OVER THERE AND IT BECOMES A, IT'S ABOVE MY PAGE, NEVERMIND.

I UNDERSTAND.

EXACTLY.

OKAY.

BUT YES, TODAY ON FELONY CASES, FINANCIALS DON'T FLOW THROUGH ODYSSEY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT INPUT.

YES, SURE NOT.

BUT THEY CAN.

ALL IT TAKES, ALL IT TAKES IS THE AUDITOR TO GO, I'M HEY DENNIS BAILEY.

I DUNNO ABOUT THAT.

ALRIGHT, WELL IT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK TRYING TO GET THIS STATE FORWARD.

GEORGE, DO YOU THINK, UH, THEY WOULD POSSIBLY BE READY FOR ACTION ON MONDAY? ACTION IN THE, IN THE, UH, A VOTE IN THE OR WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THE 23RD PROBABLY.

OKAY.

AND IN THE MEANTIME WE'LL LOOK AT SOURCES OF REVENUE THAT WE CAN HAVE, WHATEVER THE NUMBER COMES OUT TO BE, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A DEAL.

I DON'T, IT'S KIND OF EMBARRASSING ACTUALLY, WE'RE TO THIS POINT THAT IT HADN'T BEEN FIXED.

SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CHOICE BUT TO FIX IT.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE PIL STUFF FIXING, AND AGAIN, THE PERCEPTION IS IT'S THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT NO, THEY USE IT EVERYWHERE.

IT'S A GOVERNANCE ISSUE.

WE SAW THAT WE'RE GOOD.

THERE'S AN EXPENSE TO IT.

WE PROBABLY EXPENSE ACCOUNT FOR DOING NOTHING.

IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE BUYING, IT'S LIKE HAVING A NEW DUMB TRUCK AND AN OLD ONE THAT BREAKS DOWN EVERY WEEK.

EVERY COSTS MONEY, PRODUCTIVITY, DUMP TRUCKS BETTER THAN MOTIVATOR .

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU GEORGE.

WE UNDERSTOOD SOME NEXT ITEM IS HERE THIS MORNING, BUT YOU HAVE ABLE ASSISTANCE HERE THAT WILL GIVE US THE, UH, TAX ASSESSMENT COURT FOR THE MONTH NOVEMBER.

THE CURRENT YEAR TAXES COLLECTED FORMAN COUNTY FOR 2 MILLION 223 87.

THE DELINQUENT TAXES WERE 49,000 394 35 FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

THE CURRENT TAXES WERE 37 6 4.

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THE DE PORTION WAS 5 6 73 AND 30.

OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, I THINK WE HAD SOME MORTGAGE COMPANIES THAT PAID A LITTLE BIT IN NOVEMBER.

I UNDERSTAND IT WAS A SMALL PORTION, BUT EVERY YES SIR.

OKAY.

BY OF THIS MONTH WE SHOULD BE MOST OF THE MORTGAGE COMPANIES.

YES SIR.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TAX SESSIONS REPORT.

NOVEMBER, 2013.

MR. SHANE MAKES A MOTION.

UH, DID YOU SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THIS FAVOR SAY AYE.

I THOSE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK? COME BACK.

WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT AN HOUR 15 MINUTES BACK.

ALL ITEM NUMBER 12.

THANKS EVERYBODY FOR COMING BACK.

IS LAURA HUG OUR ACCOUNT CLERK TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR ELECTRONIC REGARDING REAL PROPERTY DOCUMENTS BETWEEN E RECORDING PARTNERS NETWORK, LLC AND THE COLEMAN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE? HISTORICALLY, ERE REPORTING IS BASICALLY THE PROCESS OF SENDING RETRIEVING AND PROCESSING DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE TYPICALLY BEEN GIVEN TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IN PAPER FORMAT THROUGH A TRUSTED INTERNET SITE.

UH, THE OFFICE HAS BEEN DOING ERE REPORTING FOR PROBABLY THE LAST THREE YEARS.

WE HAVE THREE VENDORS THAT WE'RE PRESENTLY USING.

AND WHAT I'VE SUBMITTED TODAY ARE TWO MORE VENDORS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ERE REPORT INFORMATION TO THE COUNTY CLERK.

UM, THE CONTRACT IS THE SAME WE USED FOR ERX AND NGO, WHICH ARE, IT'S ALSO THE SAME CONTRACT THAT TARRAN COUNTY USES.

AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACTS.

SO THAT PROPERTY INFO AND INFO.

INFO AND WHAT DOES THIS CALL, THERE'S NO COST TO WHAT? THERE IS NO COST TO THE PERSON SUBMITTING OR FOR US RECEIVING IT.

IT JUST MAKES THE OFFICE MORE EFFICIENT BY, YOU KNOW, SITTING THERE ELECTRONICALLY RATHER THAN, SO YOU'LL HAVE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE BINS INSTEAD WE'LL HAVE FIVE.

OH, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE VENDORS? YES.

EXCELLENT.

SO YOU REALLY, YOU WERE REALLY BIG.

I THINK THEY ALL COMPETE FOR THE SAME BUSINESS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE, THE SOURCES THAT CAN FILE WITH US ARE TITLE COMPANIES, MORTGAGE BANKS, FULL SERVICE BANKS.

AND SO, UM, A LOT OF THESE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMPETING VENDORS.

HAVE YOU, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

PAYMENT IS RECEIVED THROUGH AN HCH AND WHAT WE PROCESS, THEY PUT IN THE BANK ACCOUNT AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WE VERIFY THAT WHAT WE BROUGHT IN IS EVERYTHING.

SO IS THERE A FEE ADDED FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE USING THIS, UH, PRODUCT? UH, LIKE THE REALTORS OR ANYBODY DO A THAT WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY OTHER FEES IN YOUR OFFICE? WHAT THEY CHARGE ON THE OTHER END? I DUNNO.

THERE'S, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT OR NO STATUTE FOR AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR, OR I HAVE NOT BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAME CONTRACT WE USED WHEN, UH, WE APPROVED ERX AND DI MEAN, IT'S, IT'S VERBATIM.

OKAY, JUDGE.

UM, IF THE COURT WANTS, I CAN, I CAN GET AROUND TO REVIEW THE IF YOU WANT ANSWER BY THE END OF THE DAY.

OKAY.

WOULD THIS BE ON OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT? JACK TO, UH, TO PURCHASE? UH, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE SEEN IT.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT AWARE OF IT.

WHAT WOULD BE THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT? WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW BY BOARD.

WELL I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PAYING ANY MONEY FOR THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THIS IS JUST BASICALLY THE, THESE GUYS ARE THE PORTALS.

THEY WILL TAKE, UM, PROPERTY INFO, WELL THEY WILL TAKE, LIKE THEY MAY HAVE PROPERTY INFO TITLE COMPANY WILL SUBMIT THE ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTS THROUGH THE, THE PORTAL TO TYLER EAGLE.

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AND THEN WHEN IT'S SUBMITTED, WE LOOK IT OVER, WE REVIEW IT, WE PROCESS IT, AND THEN THEY GET THE ELECT THE, THE, THE DOCUMENT BACK ELECTRONICALLY.

IT'S THE SAME AS THEY COME IN AND THEY SUBMIT IT OVER THE COUNTER AND WE RECEIVE IT.

WE STAMP IT, WE FILE IT, WE SCAN IT, WE INDEX IT.

THIS IS JUST THE DOCUMENTS COME THROUGH AN ELECTORAL AND ELECTRONIC PORTAL ON TYLER EAGLE COMMISSION.

WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY FUNDS.

I ALREADY GET INVOLVED IN IT SINCE THERE'S NO FOR THIS LIKE A TALKING ABOUT.

SO I MAKE A, THIS NEEDS MOTION TO PURCHASE.

COULD WE INCLUDE THEIR SUBJECT SINCE JAMES SAID HE COULD GET THIS BACK TO US? JUST SUBJECT TO HIS SUBJECT TO THE, OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANE TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST.

I NUMBER 13, THE SAME, SAME SITUATION.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MEANS LAURA.

ITEM NUMBER 13 IS SIMILAR.

I MEAN IT'S THE SAME.

IS THAT WHY THERE'S TWO CONTRACTS? SAME.

OKAY, SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA, SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA SEPARATELY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THEM SEPARATELY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AGREEMENT FOR ELECTRONIC RECORDING OF REAL PROPERTY DOCUMENT BETWEEN PROPERTY INFO GOVERNMENT SERVICES AND THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? OPPOSED.

ALRIGHTY.

UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, 14 JACK IS, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXPENDITURES EXCEEDING $50,000 PRECINCT.

ONE FREE BRIDGE, UH, PROTECTION ON, UH, SURFACE EQUIPMENT SALE.

JIM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE A POLICY WE BRING COURT BECAUSE OUR POLICY OF ANYTHING ON 50 COURT, I THINK THAT'S BILL, UH, ONE AND THREE, UH, EQUIPMENT OFF OF T SURPLUS SALE THAT, THAT RUN THROUGH THE, UH, STATE OF TEXAS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO WHAT THAT IS A VIABLE, UH, PURCHASE PRECINCT.

UH, THREE HAD MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT, A PRECINCT ONE, UH, THEIR TOTAL 30 2003 31 GRAND TOTAL IS 96 7 64.

AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION JACK PURCHASING AGENT ON ITEM NUMBER 14TH.

I HAVE A MOTION AND THIS IS TO LET US DO THIS.

YEAH, YEAH.

I MOTION.

OKAY.

DO AHEAD SECOND.

DO HAVE TO SECOND.

I I SECOND IT, BUT I SAY, UH, I KNOW I FEEL LIKE THE 1994 TRUCK IN, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT A COURT TO BUY THAT IF YOU WANT TO, BUT YOU CAN'T USE IT ACCORDING TO OUR CLEAN PLEA POLICY.

IF THE COUNTY'S UNDER WITH THE COUNCIL GOVERNMENT'S 2004 ABOVE, I SUPPOSE.

BUT YOU CAN'T, I WOULD NOT IMPLEMENT THAT INTO YOUR, INTO YOUR WORKING FLEET.

IT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF OUR CLEAN FLEET POLICY, WHICH FUNDS THE WHITE GUY FUNDS.

SHERIFF DEPART FUNDS SOME OF 90 CADILLAC.

BUT YOU PRIOR DOCUMENT, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED ALREADY BECAUSE THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY REMEMBER COMMISSIONER THAT BY THE AGREEMENT ON THE STATE FEDERAL SURPLUS CONTRACT THAT WHEN YOU TAKE THAT AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE ONE YEAR TO GET A PUT IN SERVICE AND UH, IF YOU DON'T GET THAT VEHICLE INTO SERVICE, YOU HAVE TO

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RETURN IT BACK TO THE STATE.

UH, AND YOU ALSO CAN'T SELL THAT UNTIL I THINK 18 MONTHS.

IT VARIES FROM 1218 MONTHS.

DEPEND, YOU CANNOT, YOU GET THAT EQUIPMENT, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN CERTAIN BY A CERTAIN, AND YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME WHERE YOU CAN SELL IT.

YOU CAN'T TAKE PARTS OFF IT OF IT TO RECREATE SOMETHING ELSE OFF.

YOU USE IT LIKE T BUYING ANYTHING I SAID, I'M, I'M CURIOUS WHY TT PEOPLE THAT TAKE, UH, THIS CLEAN AIR ACT AND CANNOT, WELL, NOT, NOT EVERY COUNTY HAS IT.

NOT EVERY CITY OR COUNTY HAS THAT.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE, UH, APPROVED EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE DUMP TRUCK AND LET KIM GET BACK ON TEXTILE AND SEE IF THEY'LL TAKE THE DUMP TRUCK BACK.

WE'VE NOT PAID THEM.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE OF THE, WE CAN GIVE YOU THE, GET THE INFORMATION TO YOU FOR THAT REGARD.

THAT, THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS JUST PERMISSION TO SPEND LETTER COUNTY ATTORNEY.

BUT WE CANNOT, YEAH, WE CAN GET THE DOCUMENTATION BEEN THERE, MAKE THAT POINT ABOUT CLEAN FLEET POLICY AND THERE'S, YOU CAN GO TO THE GOVERNMENT WEBSITE AND CLEAN POLICY SAYS ANY NEW ACQUISITIONS HAVE TO BE 2004.

BETTER WOULD BE FLEET MEANS DUMP TRUCK TYPE STUFF.

NOT OVER EQUIPMENT.

OFF EQUIPMENT.

YEAH.

WELL IT LOOKS LIKE ME, UH, I'M WAITING TO DO THIS TODAY WOULD BE TO APPROVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE, UH, TRUCK AND THEN LET US DO A LITTLE INVESTIGATION ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS TURNING THAT TRUCK BACK TO WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

I THINK WE JUST HAVE A LETTER OF INTENT THAT, UH, THE OTHER TIME WE GOT NO, THEY REQUESTED PAYMENT COMMISSIONERS DID.

'CAUSE THEY WANT GO PICK THE EQUIPMENT UP AND I HAVE TWO CHECKS SITTING THERE.

CUT THAT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO VOID EVERY REIS YET.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T WROTE THE CHECK, BUT WE'VE GOT 'EM SITTING THERE FOR Y'ALL TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

BUT IF WE PULL THIS TRUCK OUT, UH, THIS 2000 OR THIS 1994 DUMP TRUCK, WE COULD UH, WE COULD ISSUE THE CHECKS AT THAT POINT TIME.

YES.

IF, IF BEFORE SOLD PROOF.

SEE, THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WHEN I WAS TAKEN TO THE PURCHASING OFFICE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO ISSUE A LETTER OF INTENT THAT WE WOULD PURCHASE AND WE HAD 30 DAYS TO PAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I AGREED TO IT, BECAUSE THE TAX MONEY HADN'T STARTED COMING IN.

AND THEN I'VE GOT THE REQUEST NOW THAT THEY WANT TO GO PICK THEM UP BEFORE THE 30 DAYS IS UP.

IS THERE, I GUESS TEXT STOPS GONNA BE CLOSED OR SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT 'EM IN HERE TO BE APPROVED.

SO WHY WOULD, WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO TAKE POSSESSION OF NOW? I SAID WELL, THEY GIVE US 30 DAYS.

30 DAYS.

I THINK 30 DAYS WENT FROM, WHAT WAS THE DATE ON IT? UP ON THIS MATTER HERE, FIND OUT, ACT OUT, OUT THIS.

THAT'S KIND CAPITAL.

WE, WE WE'VE ADOPTED A CLEAN SEVERAL YEARS, SEVERAL YEARS AGO I BELIEVE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS.

I IS THAT SOMETHING, I MEAN, NOT BEEN SHERIFF.

WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE? TAHOES OF, UH, HYBRID TAHOES.

UH, OH, THE 2009 BEEN WHAT IT PRIOR TO THAT,

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MR, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY HEAVY EQUIPMENT ON ON THIS LIST THAT WELL, SIR, IS THERE ANY HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT APPLY THAT I DON'T THINK HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

WE CAN CALL HER OVER, TALK TO ROXANNE MAY COUNTY GOVERNMENTS AND SHE CLARIFIED THAT FOR YOU.

THAT'S HER PROGRAM.

AND 21,000 OF THIS, UH, ONLINE IS, IS A BULLDOZER FOR THE COUNTY.

AND SO, UH, JUDGE PRICE, WE GONNA, WE'VE GOT IT NOW AND I'LL ASSURE YOU BE ABLE BE USED FOR THE, THERE'S LOT RESTRICTIONS AND I TALKED THAT TRAINING, TRAINING THAT HAS, SO HE'S FOLLOWED UP ON THAT.

BUT IT CAN ALSO BE USED FOR OTHER, BUT THERE'S, UH, NOVEMBER 25TH.

YEAH, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING IN HERE.

ABOUT 30 DAYS COMES FROM THE LETTER.

BUT MAYBE WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR DUCTS LINED UP IN, THAT'S WHAT WE DO TO CLEAN THIS.

MAKE SURE GOT CLEAN AREAS, SUBSTITUTE.

I WASN'T, DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THE AREA.

CLEAN AREA.

THAT'S, SO THIS BILL IS 10 CENTS ON THE SPENT, UH, 30,000, ALL THE FILTERS, EVERYTHING, ALL THE HYDRAULICS AND 30 FILTERS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT UH, UH, YOU GET THE SURPLUS EQUIPMENT, YOU HAVE SERVICE, DON'T GET IN SERVICE, YOU HAVE TURN IT BACK.

AND WHEN THEY SAY RETURN IT BACK, THEY DON'T MENTION ABOUT GIVING MONEY BACK.

THEY JUST SAY, RETURN IT BACK, MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON BOARD THAT IT'S A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER TRYING TO GO BACK.

OTHERWISE, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO IS LET TABLE THIS TODAY AND GET ALL THE DETAILS ON THE CLEAN AIR AND MAYBE YOU CAN OVER, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, THERE'S A, A SITUATION.

YEAH.

AND MAYBE GET THE TDO AND JUST TELL THEM WHAT WE RUN INTO.

IF WE CAN'T PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT AND I CAN'T PURCHASE PUT IN, WE COULDN'T PUT IN TO USE LIKE THAT.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, RIGHT.

WE HAD PICKED IT UP WET, PAID FOR IT.

YEAH.

AND KAREN JUST HOLD UP ON ANY CHECKS.

YEAH, WE'RE JUST PULLING FROM TODAY OF THEM OR JUST ONE? WE'LL, WE'LL GET IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.

WE'LL, WOULD THAT WORK? JACK MOTION? UH, COMMISSIONER MANNING SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? I HAVE A QUESTION.

ARE YOU GONNA GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE EXPENDITURES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, AND THEN DO AN AMENDED ONE TABLING, OR YOU'RE TAKE OR IT'S GONNA BE A WORKSHOP.

I THINK IT'S GONNA TURN MEETING, SPECIAL MEETING AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A WORKSHOP AT THE, UH, AFTER GET TWO OR THREE ITEMS THAT WE'VE GOT THAT WE PUT ON THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE, BY THE WAY, CAN WE START THAT MEETING AT EIGHT 30 MONDAY? ALL, UH, ITEM NUMBER 15 IS TO

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DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RETAINING ALLISON BASS AND ASSOCIATES TO ASSIST KAMAN COUNTY IN THE CREATION AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONE, BETTER KNOWN AS A SERVICE AND PREPARATION OF SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR SEARCH GRANTS ADMINISTERED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF UH, TRANSPORTATION PURSUANT TO SEVEN ONE IN CHAPTER 2 56 OF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE.

AND GENTLEMEN, YOU HAVE A COPY OF A LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, LAST WEEK THAT I THINK I SENT TO YOU EARLIER.

AND, UH, SURPRISINGLY, UH, WE WERE, UH, OR AT LEAST IT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME, WE WERE, UH, GRANTED, UH, A MINIMUM OF 2 35 8 FROM, UH, THE, UH, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

IT IS A GRANT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

UH, AND THERE ARE STIPULATIONS OF COURSE, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, UH, UH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HIRE ALLISON BASS AND ASSOCIATES TO HELP US DO THIS.

AND THERE IS A $5,000, UH, FEE THAT THEY WOULD BE PAID, BUT IT WOULD COME OUT GRANT MONEY.

AND THEY HAVE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE ON A VERY QUICK TIMEFRAME TO GET THIS DONE.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND RAY, YOU'VE KIND OF KEPT UP WITH THIS TOO, AND THE REST OF YOU HAVE TOO, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT HAS TO BE ON PROPERTIES OR ON ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY OIL AND GAS, UH, ACTIVITY.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TO APPOINT A FIVE MEMBER COMMITTEE.

YOU PROBABLY THROUGH THERE ON THAT YOU USE, YOU COULD SPEND THAT MONEY ON ROADS OUTSIDE.

THAT'S REASON.

BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID.

BUT IS THERE MUCH GOING ON YOUR END OF THE WORLD? WELL, I'VE GOT TWO PLACES DOWN THERE TOLD US TO ABOUT 2.25 MILES AND, UH, IT WAS DAMAGED WHEN I CAME IN.

I REQUESTED HELP MUSTANG OIL TRY TO GET FIXED.

THEY DIDN'T GIMME ANY, UH, INDICATION THAT THEY WOULD HELP ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

AND AFTER ABOUT EIGHT PHONE CALLS LATER AND EMAILS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY JUST GOT WHERE THEY WOULDN'T EVEN RESPOND TO.

SO I WENT AHEAD AND FIXED THE ROAD.

WELL, WHILE I WAS FIXING IT, UH, THEY RUN THAT OIL TRUCK IN AND OUT THERE, BROKE THE ROAD.

SO I HAD TO GO BACK AND RELE IT AND THEN I HAD TO CHIP SEAL IT.

I I CONCRETED CHIP SEAL IT.

HAD TO GO BACK TO CHIP, SEAL IT AGAIN.

NOW I'VE HAD TO GO BACK AND PATCH IT AGAIN.

AND IN THE OTHER SPOT THEY CAME IN AND DIDN'T WORK OVER WELL, UH, THIS SUMMER IN, IN JUNE.

AND, UH, CAUSED THE ROAD KIND OF ALLIGATOR WAS CALLED ALLIGATOR, YOU KNOW, AND UH, WENT IN THERE AND FIXED THAT AGAIN.

SO EVERYTHING THAT THEY, ALL THE DAMAGES HAD DONE, I FIXED ALREADY.

SO I NEED TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT GOING FORWARD.

OF COURSE THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TEARING UP.

OH YEAH.

BECAUSE THAT ONE FIELD, EVERY OTHER DAY THAT FAILED, WE HAVE TO DO A NEW REPORT BY JANUARY.

THAT'S UNDERSTAND THAT'S I NINE, PROBABLY FIVE TO SEVEN MILES UP WHERE THEY GO IN TWO WAYS.

THEY EITHER GO IN BY OR THEY GO PHIL UP ROAD AND THEY GO IN BACK THERE THREE SIX AND RECEIVED THE, TO HELP PAY FOR SOME PATCH MATERIAL HAS NEVER HAPPENED AFTER SOME PHONE CALLS GOT YEAR BEFORE THE, IT'S LIKE A TIFF.

IT'S THE TACTICAL BAG THAT GOES IN THAT AREA THAT PAY FOR THAT, HOWEVER, AND THAT WOULD STAY WITH IT FOREVER.

BUT THEY TWEAK THAT NOW WE COULD GET OUT TIME WANT WE THESE TO DO THE REPAIR TALKING ABOUT, AND WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANT AFTER WE GET THE GRANT MONEY, WE DON'T WANNA WORK FOR YOU ABOUT THE INCOME COMING IN ALL THAT PROPERTY.

WE CAN CUT IT OFF AT ANY TIME AND SAY WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT ANYMORE.

AND THE OTHER THING

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IS TOO, BUT WE'VE GOT THE GRANT MONEY.

IT'S GOOD.

YEAH, I THINK NOW THAT POSSIBLY COULD GO ON IF IT DOES AND IT WOULD BE A HELP TO US.

NO DOUBT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT IF I LOOK TOO ON THE, THE COUNTY THAT, BUT ANYWAY, THE ONE I'VE GOT IN THE OFFICE, UH, ANYWAY, THEY, UH, I MEAN IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT THE COUNTY SAID DON'T PARTICIPATE, DECIDE THEY DON'T, THAT MONEY WILL BE ADDED TO THIS AMOUNT.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, IT'S, I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME HOOP WE HAVE THROUGH, THROUGH.

I THINK THAT, UH, I THINK THEY KIND RIGHT THE LAW.

UH, I MEAN THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD THING FOR COUNTY.

I HAVE AN IDEA, YOU KNOW, THEY USED A FORMULA TO GO THROUGH AND DISTRIBUTE, BUT I HAVE IDEA.

ONE, THEY LOOKED OVERWEIGHT TRUCK PERMITS AND WITH ALL THE, UH, ACTIVITY WE HAVE WITH, UH, THE, UH, HAULING, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, AGGREGATES THAT COME IN AND OUT OUR ACCOUNT, THAT MIGHT HELP US GET A LITTLE THIS.

SO, AND I HOPE WE GET MORE ALL BUT ANYWAY, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON ITEM NUMBER 15? I MOVE BASS.

SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER UH, CLARK.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER, UH, SHANE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER, UH, 15, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY READ.

UH, PRIMARILY RETAIN RETAINING ALLISON BASS ASSOCIATES TO ASSIST US.

DO I HAVE, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

I HAVE THOSE I MOTION CARRIED.

ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE PUBLICATION OF AN NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING IN A NEWSPAPER GENERAL CIRCULATION WITHIN THE COUNTY TO ADVERTISE A PUBLIC MEETING TO BE HELD ON THE TOPIC, THE POSSIBLE CREATION OF ONE OR MORE SEARCH.

SAID NOTICE TO BE PUBLISHED ON THE 15TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2013.

UH, ANGIE HAS ALREADY CHECKED ON THAT AND WE TAKE ACTION ON ALL OF THIS TODAY.

WE CAN MEET THOSE TIMELINES.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 16 MAY COMMISSIONER MANNING, UH, MAKES THAT MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK.

SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.

ITEM NUMBER 17 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER SCHEDULING FOR THE DECEMBER 23RD, UH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AS THE FIRST ITEM BUSINESS CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT ON THE FORMATION OF ONE OR MORE MAY 3RD.

WE HAVE THROUGH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MANNING, A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SHANE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY ITEM NUMBER 18 IS TO DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM THE .

WE DIDN'T GET TO EMAIL THESE TRANSFERRED.

UH, THERE'S THREE, UH, FOR 13 NOTES.

ONE FOR THE GOVERNMENT, ONE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

ONE CONVENIENCE.

I NOTICED THAT.

WHAT'S THE REASON FOR HOLDING THAT THING UP? UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE DATE ON JUNE OF, I HAVE NO IDEA.

JUNE THE SET CAME.

I LOOKED AT THAT ONE.

UM, 'CAUSE I HAD A QUESTION ON IT WHENEVER I SAW THAT OAKRIDGE.

UM, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE IT UNTIL THERE'S ONE FOR 2014.

UH, ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE, UH, NEEDED TO ADD TO HIS CONTRACT LABOR AND HE TOOK IT AWAY FROM HIS ROAD.

I DIDN'T, ALL THOSE THINGS WERE EMAILED TO YOU FOR 2000.

THIS IS, THAT ONE IS FOR 2013? NO, THAT'S 14.

THIS 13.

OKAY.

WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL DEALING TWO FISCAL.

SO THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE,

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THEY WEREN'T LARGE AMOUNTS, SO THAT'S, NO, THE ONE I SAW ON THE BILLS WAS PRETTY, PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

6,000 60, 61 OR SOMETHING.

YEAH, WE HAD, I THINK WE PROBABLY JUST, WE HAD SOME MONEY IN THERE AND JUST HAD TO ADD TO IT TO ALL.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER? YES, SIR.

SHANE MAKES A MOTION ITEM.

LINE ITEM TRANSFER, ALL SAY I OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIED.

ITEM NUMBER 19, IT'S TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR, ALRIGHT, YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE A MILLION THOUSAND 158 13.

I HAVE 6,764 THAT WAS PAID MADE TAX STOCK TILL WE GET, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE, THE BAIL.

HOW THE BAIL FROM JULY.

WELL I BELIEVE THIS IS COULD WE NO, THAT'S PROBABLY THREE, TWO OR THREE AT LEAST.

IS IT TWO? IS IT TWO? DALLAS COUNTY? YEAH, IT'S THE AUTOPSY DOES MORE THING 39.

WE GO,

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IT WAS TWO PULL UP TIME.

40 FOR ME.

800, 13,766.

BIG, BIG SKY FARM AND STUFF.

IT WAS CUSTOM WELDING.

FIXED ROCK SEVEN AND SUFFERING DAMAGES TO MY YEAH, ME TOO.

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IS THAT THE CLOUD BASED OF IRON MAN, IRON THAT'S DISPOSAL.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

SECURE DISPOSAL CLOUD.

CLOUD DISPOSAL.

I THERE.

IT'S RIGHT THERE.

WHY DID WE, WE REIMBURSE THE CARD FOR THE FUNDS FOR 35,000.

WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? I THOUGHT THAT SHOULD BE IT DOES, BUT I IT'S A PASS THROUGH.

IT'S PASS THROUGH.

WE GET, WE GET, WE GOT A CHECK IN AND IT SHOWS, I CAN SHOW YOU THE LINE THAT IT CAME INTO AND THEN IT GOES RIGHT BACK OUT FOR THE SAME AMOUNT.

YEAH.

SO YOU SEND, IT'S 35,000, WE SEND 35,000 BACK.

MM-HMM .

AND PEOPLE GET THEIR MONEY THROUGH THE I THINK SO.

YEAH.

PULL IT UP.

KW WHAT, WHAT WAS THE VENDOR? IT'S, IT'S NOT EXACTLY THAT TAX, THAT LINEUP BUDGET.

EXACT AMOUNT.

WHERE WAS THAT? SHE WAS PRETTY UPSET.

THIS ONE CERTAINLY THEY CAN'T.

MONEY CAME.

WE RECEIVED THAT.

IT WAS A DEPOSIT.

YEAH.

TCQ PROBABLY SEND US THE MONEY.

WE SENT THE, THE CO SENT SOMEBODY BACK OUT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THE, IS THAT LOW INCOME VEHICLE REPLACEMENT THING

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IF YOU GOT OH YEAH, YEAH, WE DON'T DO THAT.

YOU GOT CARD INSPECTION? THAT'S THE AIR CHECK THING? YES.

YEAH, YOU HAVE TO GO ON THEIR SITE FILL.

YEAH, IT'S NOT THROUGH US.

OKAY.

THESE KIND OF THINGS.

WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR? GIVE A RECORD NOTIFICATION.

70.

I SIGNED.

I DIDN'T GET NOTHING.

REALLY.

WELL I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THAT.

THAT THAT'S THE ONE.

BUDGET COVER, THE UNIFORMS UNIFORM.

WHAT DID THEY NOT, I HAVE NO IDEA.

DID I TURN THE BILLS IN OR NO? I THINK PROBABLY JUST GOT LOST.

THEY SHOULD BE.

WOULD YOU? YES SIR.

OKAY.

YOU MEAN I NEED TO FIND YOUR PURPOSE? MAKE YOU KNOW, WHY IS THAT YOU? WHAT, WHY WOULD WE CHARGED SOME UNIFORM TO THE CAN YOU DO THAT? I'M LOOKING IT UP.

$90? UH, 85.

85 TOTAL.

OH YEAH.

I LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE.

ONE FOR 16.

ONE FOR 69 KIND.

WHAT'S REGIONAL COME OUT? WELL, YOU KNOW THAT'S REGIONAL CALL CENTER BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, YEAH, THAT'S FOR, UH, THE UNIFORM FOR THE DISPATCHERS OR WHEN THEY, WE WERE DOING, THEY WERE GONNA BE THERE PART YEAR, I THINK THEIR WHOLE BUDGET.

BUDGET? MM-HMM.

NOT CONSTRUCTION? NO, NO, THAT'S FUND 44.

OKAY.

YEAH.

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THANK YOU SIR.

YES.

THIS HAS A SIR, THIS HAS A ON GO LOSSES.

MM-HMM .

GUARANTEE THAT LOSS OF WEIGHT.

NO SIR.

PUT DAMAGES TO YOUR, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DOLLARS ON, USED.

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A FEW HOURS ON.

ALRIGHT SIR.

THANK YOU ALL.

I NEED A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE CLAIM MR. MANNING.

A SECOND.

MR. SHANE SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.

ITEM NUMBER 20 IS TO ADJOURN OUR ADJOURNING ALL FAVOR.