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UH, TODAY'S NOVEMBER THE 23RD.
AND, UH, AGAIN, WE WELCOME YOU HERE THIS MORNING.
IF YOU ARE HERE TODAY AND YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT, WE DO HAVE A SIGN IN, UH, SHEET, UH, AVAILABLE.
UH, UH, SHERIFF CAN, UH, PASS THAT AROUND IF ANYBODY'S HERE THAT THEY'D LIKE TO TALK.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO SIGN IN SHEETS.
ONE IS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE, UH, UH, SEARCH COUNTY EMERGENCY OR COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT ZONED.
UH, AND THE ACRONYM FOR THAT IS SEARCH.
AND, UH, WE'LL BE HAVING THAT PUBLIC HEARING A LITTLE LATER ON DURING THE MEETING.
UH, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
AND, UH, UH, WE WILL BEGIN WITH OUR INVOCATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGES, UH, BOTH THE AMERICAN TEXAS FLAG.
UH, THEN I'LL ASK COMMISSIONER SHANE, IF YOU WOULD, TO GIVE OUR IMPLICATION THIS MORNING.
SO IF YOU JOIN ME NOW, MOST GRACIOUS TODAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WE THANK YOU FOR THIS SEASON.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON THAT WE CAN ALL ENJOY WHAT, WHAT HE BRINGS US.
WE ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR TROOPS THAT'S IN HARM'S WAY.
WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH OUR EMPLOYEES.
BE WITH US TODAY AS WE DO OUR COUNTY BUSINESS.
WE, WE ASK YOU YOUR SONS NAME, AMEN.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
FIRST ONE IS, UH, UH, JERRY BLAINE FROM, UH, COUNTY ROAD 2 43.
MR. BLAINE, IF YOU ARE HERE, UH, IF YOU'D COME UP AND SUZIE FRONT HERE AND, UH, UH, UH, ADDRESS THE COURT.
WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY.
WE WE'RE ABLE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENT, BUT SINCE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO RESPOND BACK TO YOU TODAY.
IF WE NEED TO DO THAT, WE DO THAT AT LATER TIME.
OKAY? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, I LIVE ON, UH, COUNTY ROAD 2 43, AND, UH, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UH, LET'S SEE, SINCE, UH, 81, 82.
AND I HAVE A GRANDMOTHER THAT'S ALSO OUT THERE.
SHE'S BEEN OUT THERE SINCE, UH, 66.
AND, UH, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING UP DOWN TO 43.
UH, IT'S A MUD BOG HERE RIGHT NOW.
UH, YOU CAN'T, IT'S IMPASSABLE.
THANK GOD IT FROZE LAST NIGHT, OR I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET IN TODAY.
UH, I'VE CALLED KEN SHANE BEFORE, ONCE OR TWICE, AND, UH, LAST TIME I TALKED TO HIM, HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAD BETTER THINGS TO DO, UH, THAN TO MAINTAIN A ROAD THAT'S ONLY GOT A COUPLE, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE LIVING ON.
AND, UM, IT HADN'T BEEN GRADED, UH, IN PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
AND, UH, THERE'S NOT EVEN ROCK ON THE ROAD.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST SCREAMS. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MUD.
THEY WENT DOWN THE ROAD ABOUT A HALF MILE PAST OUR HOUSE.
AND, UH, DUGS AND DITCHES, IT'S MORE LIKE CREATED A CREEK BRIDGE, IS WHAT IT'S DONE SO DEEP.
THE ROAD IS STARTING TO CAVE IN AND PLACES DOWN THE ROAD, I'D SAY A COUPLE, TWO OR THREE MORE GOOD RAINS LIKE WE HAD THIS LAST TIME.
SO THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE A ROAD THERE LEFT ANYMORE.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.
WE LIKE TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
AND, UH, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT.
IT HADN'T BEEN THAT WAY BEFORE RAY
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CLARK.AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT PICTURES OF THE ROAD RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THERE'S, IT'S NOT A ROAD, IT'S A WAGON'S TRAIL IS WHAT IT IS.
AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT NOW? THAT DID NOT SIGN IN.
UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WOULD BE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
AND I HAVE TWO ITEMS, UH, THERE.
LEMME GO AHEAD AND DISPENSE WITH ONE OF 'EM.
WE HAVE A GROUP OF FOLKS HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, HONORING JUST IN A SECOND.
UH, ANNETTE, UH, IS OUT OF TOWN TODAY, OUR INDIGENT DEFENSE COORDINATOR, AND SHE PUT TOGETHER, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, DO YOU, IF NOT, I'LL, I THOUGHT YOU HAD SHOULD BE A LITTLE ONE PAGE HANDOUT, UH, SHOWING THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE INDIGENT DEFENSE, UH, UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE, HAVE APPLIED FOR AND THAT ARE
AND YOU'LL NOTICE LAST YEAR, UH, THAT WE APPOINTED DURING THIS SAME TIME PERIOD, UH, FROM JULY, FROM, I'M SORRY, NOVEMBER THE FIRST TO NOVEMBER THE 30TH.
UH, WE APPOINTED, UH, 71 THIS YEAR.
WE OWNED THE APPOINTED 54, UH, THAT WAS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, TO THE PRIVATE ATTORNEYS, UH, UH, THE ONES THAT ARE ON, ON THE WHEEL.
YOU NOTE THAT LAST YEAR WE, WE APPOINTED 84, AND THIS YEAR WE ONLY HAVE, UH, 60.
AND THEN WE HAD A TOTAL OF, UH, UH, REJECTIONS FOR A, A COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY.
AND, UH, LAST YEAR, IF YOU LOOK, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 179 PEOPLE THAT REQUESTED ASSISTANCE.
SO, UH, THE NEW FARM AND THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW HAS, UH, UH, REALLY STARTED NARROWING PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE TRULY, UH, QUALIFIED.
UH, ANNETTE, I THINK YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE GONNA BE GONE TODAY.
SHE, SHE'S HERE, SHE'S IN THE OFFICE.
I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE A COPY OF THAT AGAIN, ONE YOU HAVE, HAVE MINE, AND I'LL GET YOU, UH, PLENTY OF PLENTY OF OTHERS AS WELL.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ONE OF THE, UH, THE FUN THINGS THAT WE GET TO DO.
AND I WANT READ, UH, THIS, AND THEN I'LL ASK THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE MASTER GARDENERS COME UP.
AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION WHERE WE ARE, UH, HONORING OUR MASTER GARDENERS.
AND I'LL READ THIS THEN, WE'LL, I'LL COME DOWN IN JUST A MOMENT AND WE WILL, UH, UH, RECOGNIZE YOU.
UH, IT SAYS, WHEREAS THE KAUFMAN COUNTY MASTER GARDENERS ARE A PART OF A NATIONWIDE PROGRAM, WHICH PROVIDES HOME HORTICULTURE TRAINING THROUGH THE STATE LAND GRANT UNIVERSITY SYSTEM TO INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERED IN THEIR COMMUNITIES IN A VARIETY OF AREAS, FROM CREATING GARDENS TO PROMOTING HORTICULTURE THROUGH EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS AND DOING RESEARCH.
AND WHEREAS IN THE YEAR 2000, THE COFFMAN COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE SAW THE SUCCESS AND POPULARITY OF THE MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM IN OTHER TEXAS COUNTIES AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION, AND PARTNERED WITH OTHER NORTH TEXAS COUNTIES, UH, STARTING THE MASTER GARDENERS IN CAMAN COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS TRAINING SESSIONS ARE HELD ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS, PROSPECTIVE MASTER GARDENERS, UH, MUST COMPLETE 50 HOURS OF CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION AND FULFILL 50 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE IN SPECIFIC AREAS BECOMING, UH, BEFORE BECOMING CERTIFIED.
AND WHEREAS VOLUNTEERISM IS A MAJOR FOCUS OF THE ORGANIZATION WHOSE, UH, MEMBERS HAVE LOGGED IN.
AND THIS IS OUR GROUP NOW, 2,473 VOLUNTEERED HOURS DURING THE CALENDAR YEAR 2013, GIVING A, UH, VOLUNTEER VALUE IN EXCESS OF SIX $4,700 TO KAMAN COUNTY AND WORKING TIRELESSLY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF KAMAN COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE KAMAN COUNTY MASTER GARDENERS ORGANIZATION HERE TO 14 YEARS AGO, WE'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY 87 MASTER GARDENERS WHO HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND HAVE PERFORMED MORE THAN 50,000 VOLUNTEER HOURS, UH, SHOWING EXPERTISE IN PROMOTING HARD HORTICULTURE IN KAMAN COUNTY THROUGH OUT NORTH TEXAS.
AND WHEREAS THE OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND THE KAMAN COUNTY MASTER GARDENERS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE SUPPORT, GUIDANCE, AND FUNDING FROM TEXAS A AND M AGRILIFE
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EXTENSION SERVICE AND KAMAN COUNTY COMMISSION COURT NOW, THEREFORE DID RESOLVE THAT.THE, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, KAMAN COUNTY, TEXAS COMMISSIONER SPORT, HEREBY I RECOGNIZE THE MANY VOLUNTEERS OF THE KAMAN COUNTY MASTER GARDNER ASSOCIATION, AND WE ARE ALL CITIZENS TO THANK THESE MEMBERS AND SUPPORT FOR ALL THE FINE BROKERS PRESENTED BY, UH, THIS ORGANIZATION.
AND IT'S SIGNED BY ME AS WELL AS ALL OF THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
BEFORE I COME DOWN TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION, LEMME JUST ADD ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT.
UH, THIS GROUP HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COUNTY, AND MANY OF THE, UH, WORK, MUCH OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE HAS OCCURRED OUT IN FRONT OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS AND THE WORK THEY'VE DONE THERE, THERE, AND THAT CERTAINLY HAS BE UNIFIED THAT AREA.
BUT LAST YEAR, UH, WE, UH, OUR COURTHOUSE WAS NEEDING A SPRUCE UP, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT.
AND I ASKED, UH, UH, RALPH DAVIS AND IF HE, AND, AND I THINK PAM WORKED WITH HIM AS WELL, IS RALPH HERE THIS MORNING? THERE YOU'RE, UH, RALPH GOT 'EM TOGETHER AND THEY CAME UP WITH A PLAN TO, UH, SPIFF UP IN FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE.
AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WHAT RIGHT AFTER THAT WAS COMPLETED WAS WHEN WE HAD THE, THE SHOOTINGS AND THE MURDER HERE.
AND WE HAD ALL THE NATIONAL AND LOCAL MEDIA HERE.
AND I'M THANKFUL THAT THE WORK THEY DID WAS ABLE, I WOULD'VE BEEN EMBARRASSED, HAD THE OLD, UH, WORK, THE OLD COURTHOUSE, UH, GREENERY, I GUESS, UH, WOULD'VE BEEN ALL, IN FACT, IT WAS A LOT OF WEEDS TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
AND SO THAT JUST PUT BLUNTLY, SO I DO APPRECIATE THIS.
NONE OF US EXPECTED, UH, THE TYPE OF, UH, PUBLICITY THAT WOULD OCCUR IN GALTON COUNTY.
UH, BUT THIS GROUP MADE IT, UH, SURE THAT IT WAS PRESENTABLE AND, UH, AT LEAST IT PRESENTED A GOOD PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF OUR COURTHOUSE AND THE SURROUNDING SIDES.
SO THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE ADVISE YOU GUYS DOWN AND WE'LL DO A PICTURE AND I'LL GIVE YOU, UH, THIS, UH, RESOLUTION YOU GOT? ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY WHILE I'M, WHILE I'M WALKING DOWN THERE? I HAVE, UH, OFTEN TOLD THESE PEOPLE, I PROBABLY DON'T TELL 'EM ENOUGH.
I THINK WE HAVE THE BEST SMALL MASTER GARDEN ASSOCIATION IN THE STATE.
UM, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, I THINK 44 MEMBERS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE LOST A FEW, UH, UH, CALLS, GET A LITTLE OLD, AND WE VERY FEW, AND SOME OF 'EM HAVE MOVED ON.
BUT WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY GREAT GROUP, GROUP OF OUR MASTERCARD.
UH, I DID BRING, UH, FOR Y'ALL TO SEE THE MASTER GARDENER.
THEY, THEY OFTEN WIN STATE AWARDS THIS YEAR.
THEY WON THREE FIRST AND IN THREE CATEGORIES, I THINK.
UH, THE CALENDAR WON FIRST, UH, UH, A PRESENTATION THAT BRAD DOES IN RAINWATER HARVESTING ONE FIRST IN THE STATE.
AND WE HAD ANOTHER FIRST, UH, UH, FOR, UH, PUBLICATION, UM, BEEKEEPING ONE, UH, THIRD PLACE.
AND, UH, SOMETHING ELSE WON A THIRD PLACE GUARD CENTER, NOT A THIRD PLACE.
WE, WE, THEY WIN WAR ALL THE TIME.
VERY NICE AWARDS FROM THE STATE RECOGNITION.
THEY'RE ONES THAT DO THE WORK.
I, I JUST KIND OF GET TO TAG ALONG
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY LIKE TO DO.
BUT, UH, THESE ARE OUR MASTER GARDENERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, UH, UH, AND I WANT TO THANK THE JUDGE FOR ASKING US TO COME FORWARD AND GET RECOGNIZED.
WELL, I THINK THEY DESERVE IT.
I'LL ALSO TELL YOU, THEY ALSO, UH, THEY THROW ONE HECK OF A CHRISTMAS PARTY.
UH, THEY INVITED ME AGAIN THIS YEAR, AND, UH, TOM WAS THERE.
I THINK, I DON'T WHETHER ANY OF THE REST OF YOU MADE IT OR NOT, BUT WE CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE, UH, THE WORK YOU GUYS, UH, DO.
AND CERTAINLY THIS LAST YEAR WAS, UH, UH, WAS SPECIAL THAT Y'ALL TOOK THE TIME TO HELP US GET THE COURTHOUSE LOOKING BETTER.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AROUND HERE, MAYBE WE CAN GET A PICTURE MADE.
AND, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT, UH, YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? WELL, I JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE HOURS THAT, THAT ALL THE MASTER GARDENERS, UH, DONATE TO THE COUNTY AND, AND, UH, THEY DO IT LY AND, UH, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND WE SURE APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL DO.
I GOTTA ADDING UP ALL THOSE 14 YEARS.
IF I'M GOING, HOW WE GONNA DO THIS, Y'ALL? WE KIND OF, KIND OF PRESSED FOR ROOM.
YOU MAY HAVE TO MAKE TWO LINES.
NEED GET OUT IN FRONT RIGHT HERE.
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I'LL, I'LL HOLD THIS LIKE I'M PRESENTING IT.WHO'S GONNA BE THE KEEPER OF THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HOW ARE YOU? MERRY THEY TAKE THEIR WORK.
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNDER ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA AND, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THAT.
ONE ITEM MADE WOULD BE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES.
UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REJECTING A BID FOR RESALE PROPERTY.
A 28, UH, WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS 59 1 0.67 ACRES WITH WATER METER STILL INTACT.
THAT SAID PROPERTY CALLED COUNTY PRECINCT ONE.
UH, JIMMY MAY TALK ABOUT THAT.
UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER HOING, RALPH SEALEY AND JAMES TO LISA JONES.
BILL CENTER TO HIS TERMS ARE EXPIRING ON ESD DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE FOR TWO YEAR TERM, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER WANTING TARGET SHEETS, EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER THREE FOR TWO YEAR TERM, UH, DISCUSS.
CONSIDER RENEWING MEMBERSHIP FOR THE TEXAS COUNTY URBAN, UH, TEXAS CONFERENCE, URBAN COUNTIES, AND PAYING THE ANNUAL DUE.
AND THEN ITEM F IS TO CONSIDER, UH, DISCUSSING A REQUEST FROM AT T TO INSTALL VARIED COMMUNICATION DROP WIRE UNDER AND ACROSS AND UNDER THE LONG SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD.
UH, 2 34 AT COFFEE COUNTY PRECINCT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY THOSE? I GUESS THE REASON WE'RE REJECTING, IT'S, UH, JUST, IT'S UNDER WAY UNDERVALUE MY, YEAH, ON THIS LOT AREA.
IT'S 1.1 0.678 ACRES IS A CORNER LOT.
COUNTY ROAD 1 22 B AND COUNTY ROAD 1 22.
UH, IT DOES HAVE TALL GRASS AND SOME RE BEFORE THEY MOVED A, UH, MOBILE HOME OUT.
BUT IT HAS A WATER METER, UH, STILL THERE.
THAT IS, UH, GOES WITH THE LOT, WHICH IS ABOUT OVER $3,000 VALUE.
UH, PROPERTY IS VALUED AT $14,500.
UH, THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT DUE AT THE AUCTION FOR TAXES WAS 23 9 3 21.
SO MY OPINION WAY UNDER, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT BACK UP FOR THESE SAVINGS, WE'RE STARTING TO GET SEVERAL, THESE, THESE REAL LOW BIDS.
WE TURNED ONE DOWN TWO WEEKS AGO AND UH, IT'S GOT THAT WATER METER ON IT.
MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROSA, SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER SHANE.
UH, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA SKIP, UH, ITEM THREE.
UH, LAURIE, UH, FLOYD NEEDS TO GO TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF DEATH IN THE FAMILY.
AND SO LORI, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IF YOU COME FORWARD AND DISCUSS ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND, UH, SIX, I BELIEVE THAT'LL LET YOU GET ALONG YOUR COMPLAIN.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS, I WAS JUST GIVING Y'ALL AN UPDATE.
WE GOT OUR WORKERS' COMP NUMBERS IN AND WE ARE DOWN FROM LAST YEAR ABOUT $55,000.
SO, UM, WE'RE DOING GREAT FOR OUR WORK GROUP MEMBERS.
SO I THINK Y'ALL GOT COPIES OF ALL THAT.
SO THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY'S PUT FORTH AT THE BEGINNING PAY.
SO TRAINING AND KEEPING TABS ON EVERYTHING AND FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH EVERYTHING.
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IT'S WORKING OUT REALLY WELL.IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE, UH, TOP LOOK AT THE YEAR 2012, EVERYBODY FIND THAT, UH, THAT WAS THE, UH, THAT WAS THE HIGHEST YEAR WE HAD.
AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE, I THINK HE WERE THE SECOND OR THIRD HIGHEST, UH, COUNTY STATE AS FAR AS WORKING COMP CLAIM FOR OUR SIZE.
AND, UH, WHEN LORI WENT TO WORK, HER FIRST CHARGE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS TO GET TO WORK ON OUR WORKERS' COMP.
SHE HAS WORKING WITH EVERYBODY, EVERY DEPARTMENT AND NOW, SO WE DROPPED, UH, 4 27 IN, UH, 2012 DOWN TO 3 57 IN 2000, WHAT THEY'RE PROJECTING IN 2014.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'LL DO AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND, UH, NEXT AUGUST, THEY WILL ACTUALLY SEND US OUR EXACT AMOUNT.
AND SO IT WENT DOWN LAST YEAR DURING THE PORTION OF THE YEAR.
THEY KIND OF HAVEN'T SETTLED UP.
UH, AND SO I EXPECT THIS NUMBER WILL BE EVEN REDUCED EVEN MORE THEN AS WELL.
SO, UH, LAURA, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL GOT A LOT OF SAFETY TRAININGS.
ALL DEPARTMENT IS THE OTHER ELECTED SI KNOW EVERYBODY'S WORKS HARD AND I THINK T HAS REALLY STEPPED UP THE PLATE TO HELP US TO, ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? OTHER THAN THAT STILL THE WORK TO DO, BUT IT'S BETTER.
HAVE ANY COMMENT? I THINK IT'S GREAT, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FACT THAT, UH, WE HAVE A WORKERS', BIG WORKERS' COMP PAYOUT FOR
AND SO WHEN THEY PROJECTED 2014 RATE, UM, THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE LAST, THE LAST.
SO IN ALL REALITY, YEAH, IT MAY MAY INCREASE A LITTLE BIT NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF HIS CLAIM, BUT, UM, NOT TRUE.
WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS, IS THAT THE OTHER SAVINGS WE'RE SEEING, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WILL HAVE BACK THAT PLUS, UH, WITH MARK'S SITUATION.
IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, IT WAS A ONE TIME EVENT.
IT DOES LINGER ALL IN ON LIKE SOME OF THE WORKERS' COMP CLAIMS DO AS WELL.
BUT IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT, IT WAS A LARGE CLAIM, A LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT CLAIM.
LIKE JUDGE SAID, IT WAS A ONE TIME WE PAY IT, UM, AS IN SOME CLAIMS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST HAVE ON FOR A COUPLE YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD TO PAY ON.
SO WE'LL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE BECAUSE OF HIS CLAIM.
BUT, UM, NOTHING TOO, AND I WELL, UH, IS ACTUALLY BE HANDLED BY THE STATE.
YES, I LIKE WORK ON THIS AND RECOGNIZE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE.
WHEN WE GO TO THE CONFERENCES, WHEN, WHEN WE DRIVE, TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE TEXAS ASSOCI COUNTIES, THEY SAY THEY NEVER SEE FOUR COMMISSIONERS IN THE SAME ROOM AT A SAFETY MEETING UNLESS THEY COME TO KAMAN COUNTY.
THAT JUST SHOWS WE'RE, WE'RE ALL COMMITTED TO TRY TO GET THIS THING DONE.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT.
THAT WAS JUST AN UPDATE I WANT YOU TO HAVE.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER SIX IS ALSO LAURIE, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE INVESTIGATING, UH, DISCIPLINARY SUSPENSION POLICY THAT YOU WORKED ON.
WE TALKED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO IN A WORKSHOP WITHOUT IMPLEMENTING, UH, THIS POLICY OR SOME KIND OF POLICY I SUGGESTED BY TAC UM, GUIDE COMMITTEE TOGETHER, WE MET A COUPLE TIMES DISCUSS WHAT WE THINK WE SHOULD DO.
KIND OF HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ON HOW WE NEED TO HANDLE THIS AND WHAT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE.
UM, HAVE SPOKE WITH JOHN ON IT, HAVE SPOKE WITH, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE ON IT.
AND WE HAVE COME TO, UM, THE CONCLUSION OF THE ONE THAT I HAVE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU.
IT DOES NOT SPECIFY ANY SPECIFIC TIMEFRAMES OR ANYTHING.
IT JUST SPECIFIES WHAT AN INVESTIGATIVE SUSPENSION IS AND WHAT A DISCIPLINARY SUSPENSION IS.
AND, UM, THAT THE INVESTIGATIVE SUSPENSION WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD SUSPEND THE EMPLOYEE WITH PAY HOWEVER LONG THAT, UH, ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT HAD NEEDED TO.
UM, THE SAME FOR THE DISCIPLINARY ONE WOULD BE IF THEY VIOLATED SOME POLICY OR SOMETHING AS A PUNISHMENT, THEY WOULD BE, UM, SUSPENDED WITH WITHOUT PAY.
UM, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ANYBODY HAS TO DISCIPLINE THEIR, UM, IN EMPLOYEES IN EITHER ONE OF THE COMMANDERS.
THIS IS JUST IN PLACE, UM, TO HELP
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US.UH, THERE'S AN AG OPINION THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO ENFORCE IT.
SO WE HAVE THIS VERY GENERIC, UM, POLICY THAT ALLOWS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR DEPARTMENT HEAD TO DO WHATEVER THEY SEE FIT THIS SUGGESTION.
UM, WELL, IT'S MANDATORY THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE, BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT MANDATORY THAT IF YOU WANNA SUSPEND YOUR EMPLOYEE, THAT YOU HAVE TO, UM, THAT YOU HAVE TO, IT'S NOT SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO SUSPEND THEM FOR THESE REASONS.
THIS IS JUST, IF YOU CHOOSE TO SUSPEND THEM, THIS IS THE POLICY THAT BACKED YOU UP.
THE REASON THAT WE LEFT THIS, UH, THAT WE CAME UP WITH THIS POLICY RIGHT HERE IS BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE ALL THE WAY TO CLERICAL WORKERS, EVERYBODY ELSE, LAW ENFORCEMENT USES A DIFFERENT, UH, A DIFFERENT POLICY.
OKAY? BUT THIS, UH, GIVES THE, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL THE LEEWAY TO DO JUST WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
AND IT'S, AND IT'S UP TO HIM BECAUSE WE CAN'T TELL AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, WELL, YOU'VE GOTTA SUSPEND YOUR GUY X AMOUNT OF DAYS WITH PAY OR WITHOUT PAY.
THIS IS JUST THE POLICY THAT WILL ALLOW THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HE DETERMINES IS CORRECT.
DID JOHN LONG LOOK AT THIS? MM-HMM
AS LONG AS HE IT, I'M GOOD TO GO.
COMMISSIONER MANNING IS CORRECT.
IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF, UM, AND I GUESS THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT ELECTED TO BEING TOLD HOW DISCIPLINE, IT'S SIMPLY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SUSPENSION WITH PAY.
THERE HAS TO BE A POLICY IN PLACE BEFORE THAT SUSPENSION TAKES PLACE.
AND SO AS GOING FORWARD, IT REALLY PROTECTS THE COUNTY IF SOMEONE'S GETTING PAID WHILE BEING SUSPENDED, THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, I MEAN THERE'S DISCUSSION I THINK OF, OF HOW LONG THE SUSPENSION SHOULD BE, BUT IT, IT DOESN'T DICTATE THAT'S ABOUT THE DISCRETION OF THE DEPARTMENT ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I THINK Y'ALL BE LONG AND HARD ON THIS TOO.
WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON ANSWER.
WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT OFFICES THAT, UM, THE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY HAVE A FANTASTIC POLICY IN PLACE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GOING BY FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND SO THIS DOES NOT ALTER OR CHANGE ANY POLICY THAT ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS IN PLACE THAT THEY APPLY THIS JUST SUPPORTS IT AND COVERS IT AS IT'S VERY GENERIC.
LIKE JOHN SAID, IT'S SOMETHING IF YOU WERE TO SUSPEND SOMEONE THAT WOULD PAY THIS, FAX THIS UP.
I MAY WE ACCEPT THIS POLICY IS WRITTEN.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION, COMMISSIONER MANNING TO ACCEPT THE POLICY AS WRITTEN.
COMMISSIONER ROSA, SECOND MOTION DISCUSSION.
SORRY ABOUT YOUR, UH, YOUR FAMILY'S LOSS.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GO BACK NOW TO THE FIRST PAGE.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, UH, CONCERNING, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, UH, UH, SEARCH PROGRAM.
AND, UH, WE HAVE HANDOUTS THERE, UH, JOHNNY THERE ON THE TABLE BY YOU.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A PLACE FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT CONCERNING THE, UH, SEARCH PROGRAM.
UH, SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO PICK THOSE UP OR, AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT DURING THE, UH, SEARCH PROGRAM, WE CAN, UH, OR DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE, WE CAN DO THAT.
UH, RIGHT NOW I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ENTER INTO A PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND HEARING? COMMISSIONER SHANE? SECONDS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.
AYE, THOSE OPPOSED, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THIS.
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE ACTUALLY IS 9:30 AM WE'RE A LITTLE LATE ON THAT.
BUT PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 2 22 0.107, ONE OF THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE TO PRESENT INFORMATION AND RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE FOLLOWING TOPICS.
UH, AND THEN YOU, I BELIEVE, UH, YOU HAVE THIS DOCUMENT, UH, WHICH GIVES YOU THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE, UH, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION REINVESTMENT AND, UH, WHETHER OR NOT TO CREATE ITEM A IS WHETHER OR NOT TO CREATE WARN OR MORE COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION.
REINVESTMENT ZONE SERVICE IS AUTHORIZED THE LAW TO PROMOTE, WARN MORE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE COUNTY, TO BE FUNDED WITH THE SEARCH.
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ADDITIONAL, UH, ON THIS TOPIC MAY BE FOUND ON THE, UH, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WEBSITE.AND IT USUALLY THE WEBSITE AS WELL AS, UH, YOU GO TO THE LEGISLATIVE TAB.
WE HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM ANYONE IN THE, UH, AUDIENCE, UH, OR ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT, ABOUT THIS? THIS IS THE, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE EMPLOYED, UH, UH, ALLISON AND BASS TO HELP US, UH, MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF THE, UH, GUYS HERE TO, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, MAKE IT COMPLETELY LEGAL, UH, SHOULD WE DECIDE TO, UH, SEEK THESE FUNDS.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? AND I DO NEED TO READ THIS AS WELL, THAT, UH, THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE CONSIDERING THE, UH, CREATION OF THE SEARCH, UH, TO MEET THE, UH, TECH STOCK REQUIREMENTS.
THE COUNTY IS ELIGIBLE, WHERE IS UP NOW? 232,000.
2 38 JAMES? YEAH, I'LL FIND HERE, UH, IN GRANT FUNDS, THE SEARCH WILL NOT INCREASE OR DECREASE TAXES.
THE GRANT FUNDS AND ANY SEARCH FUNDS WILL BE UTILIZED ON TRANSPORTATION, UH, PROJECTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AT LEAST 30 DAYS AFTER THIS HEARING, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL NEED TO CREATE THE SEARCH.
UH, THEY WILL ALSO APPOINT A SEARCH ADVISORY BOARD AND DETERMINE THE TDO GRANT PROJECTS.
THE TDO APPLICATION WITH THE SEARCH MUST BE SUBMITTED TO TDOT BY FEBRUARY 14TH, 20.
MAKING SURE I GOT EVERYTHING READ RIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ANY COMMENT FROM THE COMMISSIONER? Y'ALL HAVE ANY, ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE SEARCH? WELL, THIS JUST, THIS IS GONNA BE A GOOD PRO PRO PROGRAM FOR US.
AND I, I JUST WANNA MAKE A NOTE THAT IF WE DO NOT USE THIS MONEY, IF WE DO NOT MAKE APPLICATION FOR THIS MONEY, IT SAYS RIGHT HERE THAT THE MONEY GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE, WE HAVE SOME DAMAGE.
DID WE FIND OUT IF IT WAS RELEVANT TO THE PIPELINE CONSTRUCTION? ALL I HAVE READ ON THAT IS, IS THAT, UH, IN ONE OF THE, UH, EMAILS, YOU KNOW, THAT GO BACK AND FORTH, IT DID SAY THAT PIPELINES WOULD BE CARRY CONTROL CONTROL.
SO, UH, NOW THAT'D BE SOMETHING, WE'LL, AS WE DEEPER INTO THAT TO COME BACK, FIGURE OUT, I THINK ALL OF THEM, EVERY ROAD IN THE COUNTY'S ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THERE IS SOME TYPE OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT HAS GONE DOWN ANY COUNTY ROAD.
YEAH, THAT'S THE THING I THINK IS PRETTY BROAD.
YOU KNOW, KEY TO, IT'S GONNA BE HOW WE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DISTRIBUTE THE MONEY, BUT IT'S MONEY THAT I'M REALLY SHOCKED THAT WE'VE RECEIVED 230,000 COULD BE MORE.
COULD BE IN FACT ROCK EDUCATION TYPE THING.
SO A ONE TIME PROGRAM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU PROBABLY THAT THESE WILL BE A TOOL THAT
YOU THINK SO? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A TEST FILE.
SO I THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA, UH, REQUEST SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN PLACE.
MAY NOT BE A TRANSPORTATION, MAY NOT BE A ENERGY TRANSPORTATION VESTMENT VALUE.
IT'D BE MUCH LIKE, LIKE A TIP.
IF YOU WANNA GET SOMETHING THAT, ONE OF THE REASONS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE, THE, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 225 MILLION OF YOUR MARKET, TEXAS COUNTY, ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK WE RECEIVED AND WE DID IS THE OVERWEIGHT TRUCK PERMIT WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE MINING OPERATIONS WE HAVE GOING ON HERE.
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THAT HELPED US QUITE A BIT, UH, ON THAT.AND WE DO HAVE A LITTLE OIL AND GAS ACTIVITY.
WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE MONTH.
I DON'T, WE DO HAVE IT HAS TO BE SEE A LOT COUNTY GOING DO THAT.
I JUST DISCOVER LOT WE BUT CAUSE DAMAGE HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THERE.
AND THEN LOOKING OVER, UH, THE
EVERYBODY'S, I'VE GOT A LIST OF ALL ONE THAT I'VE DISCOVERED INCLUDING CORRECT.
ITEM NUMBER B UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THE POTENTIAL BOUNDARIES AND REQUIREMENTS OF COUNTY ENERGY TRANSPORTATION.
VESTMENT ON IS AUTHORIZED BY TRANSPORTATION CODE.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'VE OF DISCUSSING.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER, UH, WELL I ACTUALLY, THERE'S A REPORT TO THAT.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAY 30 DAYS AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE MATTER AS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MAY IN ITS DISCRETION DETERMINE TO, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER HOOP THAT WE HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.
AND, UH, YOU CAN READ THROUGH THIS APPLICATION PROCESS REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT THE, UH, UH, THAT IS, UH, THAT THE, UH, MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE.
UH, I READ EACH ONE OF THESE, BUT I DO WANT, THERE IS A PART ABOUT A FIVE BOARD, IF YOU TURN OVER THE PAGE, WHAT IT TALKS ABOUT ADVISORY BOARD, IT'S THE THIRD PAGE FROM THE BACK.
UH, WE DON'T APPOINT, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T APPOINT THAT BOARD TODAY, BUT WE'RE GONNA, UH, UH, NEED TO APPOINT A BOARD AND SPECIFICALLY IT SAYS WHO AND HOW MANY MEMBERS SERVE ON THE ADVISORY BOARD.
AND THE STATUTE SAYS THAT THERE SHOULD BE UP TO THREE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY WHO ARE TAXPAYERS IN THE COUNTY.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF SPECIFIC.
WE NEED TO START, THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT REPRESENTED THE OIL GAS INDUSTRY MEANS I, WHETHER THEY GET A SEVERANCE CHECK OR YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT MEANS THEY'RE PART OF THE INDUSTRY OR NOT.
OIL GAS INDUSTRY HAVING AN INTEREST IN PRODUCING.
THEY, UH, THIS GROUP RECOMMENDS A BOARD OF FIVE MEMBERS WITH TWO OR THREE PUBLIC MEMBERS AND TWO MEMBERS WITH TIES OF SOME SORT TO THE ENERGY SECTOR BASED TAXES IN YOUR COUNTY.
UH, WHAT THE BOARD ACTUALLY DO, I FOUND THIS KIND OF INDUSTRY SAYS THESE ARE NOT CLEAR AS TAKEN
THEY WOULD PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE ME TRENDS AND OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT IN AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS TO ON ROAD NEEDS.
UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS RECEIVE A SALARY, NOTHING.
THEY DON'T RECEIVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENSES.
UH, HOW OFTEN DO THEY MEET UNSTATED THE REGULAR MEETINGS? THERE'S NOT A CERTAIN MEETING DATE.
AND ARE THERE MEETINGS SUBJECT TO THE OLD MEETING REQUIREMENTS? YES, THEY ARE.
SO, UH, THEN THE NEXT PAGE TALKS ABOUT THE ROAD REPORTS, UH, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO COMPLETE IN THE LAST PAGE.
THERE'S AN ALTERNATE FORM FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO AT ANY RATE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR 30 DAYS.
ONE, AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYBODY IN MIND RIGHT NOW, BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, YOU GUYS PROBABLY SOMEBODY PRECINCT
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STILL.SO YOU GOING RIGHT? THE I VALUE IT LIKE TIP INCREASED VALUE IN THE PROPERTY IS WHAT IS GONNA FUND THIS FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
IF YOU WANT GO DOWN THAT ROAD, UH, THIS WHAT WE'RE GRANT DISOLVE C AT ANY TIME, IF NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PRODUCING ON ONE OF THE MECHANISMS THAT KIND C BE IDENTIFIED AS THE LENGTH THAT THEY WROTE, NO PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES, JUST THE ROAD, MAYBE 10 FEET ON BOTH SIDES OR WHATEVER.
SO YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AND YOU CAN EXPANDED.
IT'S A PRETTY GOOD TOOL, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE COMMITTED FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS, 10 YEARS.
YOU GONNA BE COMMITTED TO ALL THE VALUE THAT GOES UP IN THAT AREA.
SO YOU CAN ALWAYS EXPAND IT, BUT YOU CAN'T, I DON'T THINK YOU, UNLESS YOU, SO THE BOUNDARIES NEED TO BE, BE VERY RESTRICTED.
BUT IF YOU JUST LIKE TO GO FEET ON ANY SIDE OF A ROAD, THAT'S NOT GONNA MUCH INCREASE VALUE.
BUT YOU DON'T WANT, YOU DON'T WANT, I DON'T THINK YOU WANNA REDUCE YOUR INCOME NO.
UNLESS YOU GOING, UNLESS WE NEED THAT TO DOWN THE ROAD SOMEWHERE TO FUND ROAD PROJECTS.
DOES
I GUESS THE, THAT THE INCREASE OF VALUE DUE TO GAS, ANY INCREASE VALUE, IF THEY PUT A SHOPPING CENTER NEXT TO THAT FACTOR, THAT INCREASE VALUE GOES INTO THIS SEA TUR, WOULD THAT BE PROBLEMATIC? THAT'S WHY I SAID, THAT'S WHY I SAY WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT THE VALUE, YOU WANT YOUR VALUE BE VERY CONSERVATIVE AT THIS POINT, THE GAME.
BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS, YOU CAN ALWAYS CREATE ANOTHER SEAT TURNS DOWN ROAD SOMEWHERE.
JUST IF, IF IT BECOMES, OR YOU OR YOU NEED TO FUND YOUR ROAD REPAIRS THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND YOU, WELL YOU CAN'T GET, IF YOU COMMIT TO IT FOR 10 YEARS, THEY JUST CHANGED THAT RECENTLY WHERE YOU CAN DISSOLVE IT.
YOU HAVE TO LIST OF PROJECTS YOU WANT GET DONE.
SO YOU SAY YOU WANNA DO GUN ROAD 100 ONCE, ONCE ROAD 100 IS DONE, YOU CAN STOP C YOU HAVE TO GO ONCE YOUR PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED.
IT'S JUST GOOD FOR THIS MONEY THAT WE GOT THERE NOW.
OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? ANYBODY CARE TO COMMENT ON THIS FROM THE UH, PUBLIC NOT, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M SURE THIS HAS BEEN EXCITING TO Y'ALL.
TELL I LOOK EVERYBODY IT'S GONNA OUR ROAD BUT UNEXPECTED.
THIS A MOTION TO, I NEED A MOTION TO MAY A MOTION, UH, MR. CLARK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MAN, WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
UH, NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, HAM, IF YOU WOULD.
UH, AND SOMEBODY HAS STOLEN THEIR MICROPHONE HERE, I GUESS.
UM, I PASSED OUT A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT FOR THE ANIMAL, UH, SHELTER SURFACES TO ALL OF YOU.
AND UM, AS WE HAD ALL TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THEY HAD, UM, ASKED US TO GO TO A PER ANIMAL AND UM, JAMES AND JOHN HAVE LOOKED OVER THIS INFORMATION FOR US.
UH, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE BOARD OF THE SHELTER AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN AGREEMENT
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THAT WE CAN, UM, CAN GO WITH AND IT'S WHAT'S BEST FOR US.SO $65 PER ANIMAL INSTEAD OF, UM, WE WANT TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN THE COUNTY.
SO WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED TO DO WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE GENTLEMEN THAT ARE THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, WE'VE MADE A CARBON COPY OF THE PAPERWORK THAT'S FILLED OUT.
SO WE KEEP UP WITH EXACTLY HOW MANY ANIMALS WE TAKE BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING PER ANIMAL NOW, UM, WE WILL HAVE, THE OFFICERS WILL ACTUALLY TAKE A PICTURE OF THE ANIMAL WHEN THEY PICK IT UP.
THEY WILL DONATE, THEY WILL, UM, TAKE A NOTES OF WHERE THEY PICKED IT, PICKED IT UP, IF THEY PICK UP FROM THE CORNER OF MAIN AND FIRST.
THEY'LL SEND THE PICTURE IN, WE'LL UPLOAD IT AND THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING OUT IN THE PAPER TO LET THEM KNOW WHERE TO GO TO LOOK IF WHEN THEY GET HOME, THEIR ANIMAL'S NOT THERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA PUT IT ON A FACEBOOK PAGE OR HAVE LINKS ON OUR PAGE WHERE THEY CAN GO IMMEDIATELY TO THAT PAGE AND THEY CAN LOOK AT IT.
WE HOPE THAT WE CAN HOLD THE ANIMAL AT LEAST A DAY OR TWO HERE BEFORE WE HAVE TO CARRY IT.
THAT CUTS DOWN ON THE COST PER ANIMAL.
AND WE ALSO ARE GONNA ORDER SOME MICROCHIP WANDS.
UM, THESE ANIMALS THAT ARE MICROCHIP WITH THE OFFICERS CAN WAND THEM AND IT'LL TELL THEM, UM, WHAT VET HAS BEEN SEEING THAT ANIMAL.
THE VET WILL TELL US WHO THE ANIMAL WANDS TO SO WE CAN HOLD THE ANIMAL HERE TO THAT HOMEOWNER CAN GET HOME FROM WORK AND COME AND GET THAT ANIMAL.
THAT'S BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM IN SOME OF THESE OTHER COUNTIES THAT WE'VE VISITED.
UH, SOME AT SOME OF THESE SHELTERS, IT'S UH, SOMEBODY WHO'S JUST GONE TO WORK AND THEIR DOG GETS LOST, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME HOME AND GO TO THE FACEBOOK PAGE OR, OR THE COUNTY LENGTH AND THERES THEIR PICTURE OF THEIR DOG.
THEY RUN DOWN THERE AND PICK IT UP.
SO, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, LIKE SKI OUT THERE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
HOW DOES THIS 65 FEED COMPARE TO THE AMOUNT THAT IT ACTUALLY COST LAST YEAR THROUGH THE CONTRACT? UH, WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR WILL BE COMING AHEAD.
I WAS THINKING IT WAS LIKE 70 SOMETHING.
UM, IT WAS A FLAT RATE LAST YEAR, BUT I MEAN, PER ANNAL THAT WE ACTUALLY DELIVERED, I DIDN'T, IT'S 70.
THE COUNT VARIED MUCH WHEN WE WERE THAT QUARTERLY OR BIMONTHLY MUCH.
IT WAS HARD TO, IT WAS, IT WAS HIGHER.
AND WITH THE CARBON, UM, DOCUMENTATION, THEY WILL LEAVE ONE, UM, WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE ONE, THEY'LL SEND ONE OVER FOR THE AUDITOR AND MYSELF TO CHECK OFF AND MAKE SURE THE ALS ARE CORRECT AND ONE THE SHELTER.
SO WE MAKE SURE ALL THE NUMBERS LINE UP.
I THINK YOUR BELIEF IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A CHEAPER WATER.
IT'S, AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO RESCUE, WE'RE GONNA REUNITE MORE ANIMALS WITH THEIR OWNERS THIS WAY.
I REALLY THINK, WE'LL, AND WE HAVE THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE HERE AT THE, THE MEETING THAT WE HAD, ALL THOSE LADIES ARE VERY EXCITED TO HELP AND VOLUNTEER AND UPLOAD THE PICTURES AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S QUITE A MOVEMENT TO, UH, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEER FOR THIS PROGRAM.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY GONNA MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE WHAT WE'RE, AND SO WE CAN ASK THE VETS TO, UH, CHIP AS MANY AS THE ANIMALS IN THAT PEOPLE BRING IN FOR, UH, THAT WORK.
AND I KNOW THAT IT, IT'S A FEE SO THAT THE, THE ANIMAL OWNER WILL HAVE TO DO THAT.
BUT IT WOULD HELP US CONSIDER THAT IT WOULD HELP US.
AND I KNOW THE ANIMALS THAT RUN THROUGH THE CRADLE AWARENESS CENTER, THEY OFFER THAT AT A VERY SMALL FEE AND MOST OF THOSE ANIMALS AUTOMATICALLY CHUCK ONCE THEY FIX THOSE ANIMALS.
SO THE BODY HAS REALLY PUSHED THAT IN THAT
DO WE HAVE A, UH, RECOVERY FEE LIKE A CITY DOES? WELL IF MY DOG GETS PICKED UP, GOD'S GO GET IT FOR FREE OR DO I HAVE PAID? WE HAVEN'T.
THEY DO AT THE SHELTER AND AFTER 73 HOURS THE ANIMAL BECOMES TO THE SHELTERS AND THERE'S A RECOVERY FEE THERE.
WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT WITH A RECOVERY BE HERE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HOLD THOSE ANIMALS VERY LONG.
AND WE, WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY TO HOLD HERE COUNTY.
SO WE HAVE, WOULD THAT NOT REDUCE SOME OF OUR EXPENSES IF WE DID HAVE A RECOVERY FEE FOR THE
'CAUSE OUR SURE THEY GOT, THEY GOT EXPENSES GOING AFTER THERE GETTING, THEY SHOULD PRORATE THAT.
I THINK BECAUSE WE PAY FOR THE THREE DAYS, YOU KNOW THAT $65 PAID FOR THE FIRST 73 HOURS AND IF SOMEONE COMES IN TO ME, THEY OUGHT PRORATE THAT FEE.
I THINK THEY'VE GOT A WHAT, A 30 TO HUNDRED DOLLARS THEY DO.
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DO COME IN WITHIN THE FIRST 73 HOURS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT.BUT FOR US NOW, WE'VE GOTTA HOLD THAT ANIMAL HERE LONG ENOUGH TO GET THAT PICTURE UP.
SO WHAT WE DON'T WANNA HOLD IT MORE THAN TWO DAYS.
WE DON'T HAVE, WE WON'T, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HOLD IT LOG BECAUSE TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE PHONE WHEN WE DO IT.
I MEAN, WE DON'T INTEND TO BE HOLDING THE OFFICER.
WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO HOLD DOGS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? COUNTY BELIEVE THE CINDYS CHARGE YOU IF YOU GO GET YOUR DOG BACK.
YEAH, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHY SHOULD WE NOT DO THAT FOR RECOUP SOME OF OUR EXPENSES? WELL, WE ABOUT AN ORDER OF THE COURT, BUT WE'LL NOT HOLD THE ANIMAL HERE MORE THAN TWO DAYS.
BUT SO, SO THAT FEE GOES DOWN THERE AND IT BECOMES THERE.
IT'S THEIRS AND IT IS IN YOUR, IT IS IN YOUR AGREEMENT.
THE RECOVERY FEE IS IN YOUR AGREEMENT.
BUT THAT IS THE SHELTER BECAUSE IT BECOMES THEIR, PAM DID WE ADDRESS THE LATE FEE THAT THEY WANTED TO CHARGE US? WE GET THERE AT THREE 30.
AND IT IS, INSTEAD OF $20 PER ANIMAL, IT'S $20 PER OCCURRENCE.
UM, NOW THEY STATE THEY CLOSE AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
OUR GUYS NEED TO BE THERE AND WE NEED IT.
SO, UM, IT'LL BE A $20 PER OCCURRENCE.
THERE WAS NO NOT, THAT'S UNREASONABLE TO ME.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE OPERATING ON THAT TYPE OF SCHEDULE.
UH, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY OPINION ON IT.
I COULD WE AT THAT TIME HOLD THE ANIMALS AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT JUST TO MAKE IT THROUGH TO THE NEXT DAY.
WE, WE REALLY TO BE AN ANIMAL.
I MEAN ANIMAL SHELTER, WE WE'RE NOT SET UP FOR THAT.
I I JUST THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE THAT IF WE'RE THERE AT, YOU KNOW, 3 35, THEY DON'T WANNA CHARGE US $20 MORE.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
I CAN CALL AND TALK TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND WE, WE HAVE DONE THAT AND WE CAN'T.
IT CAME BACK TO US THREE DIFFERENT TIMES AND THAT WAS THE CHANGES HE MADE WAS INSTEAD OF HER ANIMAL, HER OCCURRENCE.
THE OTHER OTHER CHANGE I THINK IS THEY WON'T BE PAID TWICE.
THEY WANNA BE, THEY WANNA BE PAID ON THE FIRST AND THE 15TH.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE MORE WORK ON OUR PART OF HAVING TO GIVE THAT TO THEM.
AND THEY WOULD NOT, AT FIRST IT WAS EVERY 10 DAYS AND WE GOT TO GO TO THE PERSON 15.
BUT THEY WILL PROVIDE THE BILL TO US AND WE'RE GONNA SET UP A PROCEDURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR YES.
UH, SO WE'RE NOT THE DEAL FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT OURS.
SO I'LL HAVE THEM SEND THE BILL TO ME AND I'LL HAVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BILL AND I'LL COMPARE IT AND THEN GET IT TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER MAN ON THE FLOOR.
HAVE A SECOND MR. BRA SECONDS FURTHER DISCUSSION.
EVERYBODY GOT ALL THEIR, I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE AMENDED ABOUT THAT LATE FEE.
I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT TO MY MOTION TO AMEND THE LATE FEE.
AND YOU TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT IT.
IF OUR OFFICERS COME ROLLING IN THERE AT FOUR O'CLOCK, THEY'RE WORKING, THEY'RE READY TO GO HOME.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SET FOR THREE 30.
LIS CAN GET SETTLED IN THE KENNELS WHEREVER THEY NEED TO BE BEFORE THOSE OFFICERS, BEFORE THEIR WORKERS ARE READY GO.
DO YOU, DO YOU WANT AMEND YOUR MOTION TO ELIMINATE LATE FEE? ELIMINATE LATE FEE.
JIMMY, IS THAT AGREEABLE? YES.
OTHER MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? DOES ANYBODY HEAR FROM THEM? NO, I'M, I'M HERE.
BUT LAKE FEE WAS SPECIFICALLY TO, FOR OVERTIME PURPOSES BECAUSE YOU'RE PUSHING STAFF INTO OVERTIME.
IF YOUR TRUCK ISN'T THERE, THE GUYS, AND THEY'RE GIVING THEM A HALF AN HOUR TO UNLOAD, WHETHER THEY HAVE 10 DOGS AND SIX CATS OUT THE TRUCK, OR ONE DOG IS SIX CATS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IT'S EITHER THEY CHANGE IT TO A ONE TIME OCCURRENCE CHARGE.
SO IF THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER GETS THERE AFTER THREE 30 AND PUSHES STAFF TO STAFF MEMBER HAVE TO STAY TO GET THESE ANIMALS SETTLED INTO OVERTIME, THAT INCREASES THE SHELTER'S COST.
THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE OVERTIME FEE.
FOR REASON FOR THE LATE CHARGE.
HAS THAT BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE PAST? YES, IT HAS BEEN.
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BUT IF WE WORK WITH OUR, OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS SO THEY KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOTTA BE THERE BEFORE THREE 30.HAS THAT EVER BEEN DISCUSSED OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SCHEDULE A ANIMAL CALL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY HOLDING CAPACITY? PARDON? DO YOU HAVE ANY HOLDING CAPACITY AT THE JAIL? FOR ANIMALS? YEAH.
WHAT WHAT IS THE CAPACITY? UH, WE'VE GOT THREE, UH, SEPARATE TENS OUT THERE, SO, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THREE WOULD BE IT.
BUT IF WE MAINTAIN THOSE, IF SOMEONE HAS TO BE THERE TO FEED AND WATER THOSE EVERY DAY, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE, WE CAN, UH, WE DO IT AND IF WE GET ONE, IF WE HAVE TO PICK ONE UP OBVIOUSLY AT NIGHT OR SOMETHING AND YOU KNOW, WE DO MAINTAIN IT, WE TRY TO MOVE THOSE AS QUICK AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A SHELTER.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? I MEAN, UH, AFTER HOURS IF WE DON'T TAKE THEM DOWN THERE AT MIDNIGHT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, WE HOLD THEM.
I GUESS COULD WE INCREASE THE NUMBER OF HOLDING PENS? UH, PERHAPS.
WELL, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UH, WE LOOK AT IT, THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE BACK THERE, YOU PROBABLY NEVER BEEN BACK THERE.
SEEN THEM KIND OF THE WEST SIDE ALONG THAT.
WE, WE ACTUALLY FOR SLAB AND EVERYTHING IN THERE, SO, WELL, I GUESS WE'RE JUST GOING HAVE TO MONITOR.
WE CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS IF IT HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM IN THE PAST, BUT IF IT IS, I MEAN WE'LL JUST HAVE, SO WHERE ARE ANIMALS GONNA BE HELD TO THE COUNTY WHILE WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF THEY WE'RE GONNA PICK THAT UP AS FAST AS WE CAN.
IF THEY'VE A MICROCHIP, THEN THE OWNER WILL BE CALLED AND THEY WILL HAVE TO BE HELD UNTIL THAT OWNER GETS THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA BE HELD AFTER JAIL SHORTLY.
AND, AND THAT SHOULD BE JUST BY THE TIME THEY GET HOME FROM WORK AND WE GOTTA GIVE 'EM A 24 HOUR TIME PERIOD.
THAT'S WHAT BRIAN YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
BUT THE OFFICER WILL KNOW THAT THEIR JUAN, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S CHIP AND YOU CALL THE VET, THE VET TELLS YOU THIS NUMBER BELONGS.
SO THIS PERSON, AND THIS IS OUR CLIENT'S PHONE NUMBER, THEY CAN CALL THEM AND THEY CAN COME AND GET THAT ANIMAL BACK ARRANGE.
SO POTENTIALLY WE COULD HAVE MORE THAN THREE ANIMALS THAT ARE CHIPPED.
WE GOING HAVE TO SEE THIS, HOW THIS WORKS.
WE'VE NEVER HAD THE, THE ABILITY TO, UH, SCAN MICROCHIPS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN, AND I GUESS AT THAT TIME, MR. CLARK, WE COULD WHEN COME TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, PUT THAT, AND THAT CAN HELP SOME OF THOSE.
HE HAS, HE HAS A FEE, A STRAY LAW.
WOULD A DOG A DOG CAT FALL UNDER ASTRAY? NO.
WOULD NOT ARAY FOR AGRICULTURAL COWS AND GOATS AND MULES AND DONKEYS.
BUT IT, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, LARGE.
SEE IF YOU GO PICK UP ONE OF THOSE, IT'S YEAR YOU HAVE TO PAY A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT COURSE BECAUSE THE RED IN THE, IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LABOR AND GOING TO GET IT AND I GUESS DELAY THIS ON THE DOG.
IF THERE'S LABOR INVOLVED, I'M GONNA GET IT AND I'M GONNA GO PICK IT UP AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR WHATEVER.
I THINK I SHOULD BE PAID FOR IT.
AND THIS IS THE AGREEMENT WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
SO IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, THEN WE CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF AND IT WOULD START IN JANUARY AND I CAN COME BACK WITH YOU A RECLAIM FEE AFTER WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT MIGHT BE.
CAN WE AMEND THIS? WE COULD, YEAH.
COME BACK BECAUSE THIS, I MEAN THIS IS NEW AND IT MAYBE SOME THINGS IN HERE WE HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THAT REGARD ON THE AGRICULTURAL ANIMAL, DOES THAT INCLUDE FERAL HOGS AS WELL? NO, I GET YOU.
WELL, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO CALL, PAY THE CATCH FEE IN THE BOARD FIELD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AND WE, WE, WE CAN COME BACK AND REVISIT.
WE APPRECIATE THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
PEOPLE IN CITY CREEK WORKING WITH US.
AND PAM, I KNOW YOU'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS WORKING WITH DONNIE AND THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE FOR US FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL GET SOME, SOME CONTROL OVER.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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MOTION CARRIED.ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS FROM OUR TREASURER.
I GUESS I ALSO CANCELED THE 500,000 AGREEMENT.
WE, ANYTHING UNUSUAL WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT? NO, EVERYTHING'S ROLLING ALONG PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD.
EVERYTHING'S ROLLING ALONG PRETTY, PRETTY WELL? YES.
QUESTIONS FOR THE TREASURES? BEEN OUT MOVING IN THE INTEREST RATES? NO.
ALRIGHT, NOT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO CONSIDER, UH, AND, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING AN AMENDED TAX ABATEMENT, UH, GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES LEASE.
WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AND KIND OF GIVE US THE CLIFF NOTES VERSION OF, UH, OF THIS.
AND SO WE'LL ALL KIND OF BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
UH, I'M LEE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KAUFMAN, PDC.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY, BECAUSE IT WAS SOME 15, 17 MONTHS AGO THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUE THAT THAT BROUGHT TOPIC OF, UH, COUNTY POLICY IN THE DISCUSSION AT ONE OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY LEADERSHIP COUNCIL MEETINGS.
AND, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS BRUCE OR RAY.
ONE OF Y'ALL ASKED, UH, MAYBE IF THE PROFESSIONALS IN OUR ORGANIZATION MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLICY AND WHAT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, AND WE DID, BECAUSE WE WERE, AT THAT TIME WE WERE GETTING TO RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, A FEW REQUESTS AND WE HAD ONE ENTITY THAT WOULD ASK FOR THIS AND ANOTHER ENTITY THAT WOULD ASK FOR THAT.
AND WE HAD OUR OWN POLICY, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY SEEM TO, NOBODY EVER FOLLOWED THE EQUAL.
SO THE REQUEST WAS, IS TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALL AGREE ON AND BE AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, THE CALKIN COUNTY LEADERSHIP COUNTY, UH, INVITED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS FROM, UH, FIVE MAJOR CITIES IN, IN, UH, TAKIN COUNTY.
AND, UH, FOUR OF 'EM AGREED PARTICIPATE.
AND WE MET TWO OR THREE TIMES OVER TWO OR THREE MONTHS AND, AND DEVELOPED THE POLICY THAT I EMAILED ANGIE, UH, WHICH I ASSUME IS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, PROBABLY WE PROBABLY GOT THIS DONE BY ABOUT ONE YEAR AGO THIS MONTH.
AND THEN, UH, WE SAID, WELL, WE'LL WAIT TILL AFTER THE HOLIDAYS, YOU KNOW, AND PROBABLY COME HERE LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
AND THEN WE HAD THE MURDER AND UH, AND, AND THEN THE OTHER THING AND THEN, UH, AND THEN WE KIND OF FORGOT ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE.
AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT GETS US HERE TODAY.
THE, UM, THERE'S NOT ANY, I DON'T THINK WHAT I WOULD CALL REAL SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THE COUNTY TAX ABATEMENT POLICY IS, IT EXISTS TODAY, HAS ONLY ONE FORMULA FOR A NEW FACILITY OR A NEW BUSINESS WITH A MINIMUM OF $500,000 INVESTMENT IN 10 JOBS.
THE NEW ONE HAS, HAS THREE FORMULAS FOR THAT AND, AND THE MINIMUM INVESTMENT AND, AND THE NEW POLICY IS A MILLION DOLLARS.
BACK WHEN THE OLD POLICY WAS DONE, HALF MILLION DOLLARS WAS A LOT OF MONEY.
TODAY IT IS, UH, NOT QUITE AS MUCH OF MONEY.
SO WE WE'VE INCREASED THE MINIMUM AMOUNT, WHICH WILL ELIMINATE SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT, THAT YOU MAY, MAY RECEIVE.
UH, WE'VE ADDED TWO ADDITIONAL ONES FOR NEW FACILITIES.
ONE DOING, UH, UH, 2.5 MILLION TO 5 MILLION AND THEN, THEN ANOTHER ONE FOR, FOR OVER, UH, $5 MILLION INVESTMENT.
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MAIN THING.THE OLD, UH, THE OLD BATCH ABATEMENT POLICY HAD A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE FOR AN EXISTING FIRM VERSUS A NEW FIRM.
AND WE DID, WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THAT, THAT WE JUST SAID WE KEEP IT THE SAME.
IF IT'S AN EXISTING FACILITY, IT'S GONNA EXPAND, GONNA EXPAND, LET'S GIVE 'EM THE SAME THING WE DO IN NEW FACILITY.
UM, SO THAT'S THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE.
AND, UM, THE UH, AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE AMOUNTS UNDER YOUR OLD FORMULA WITH A, AGAIN, WITH A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT AND 10 JOBS, YOUR CUMULATIVE ABATEMENT WAS 400% OVER ABOUT EIGHT YEARS, SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS.
AND, UM, IN THE, IN THE PROPOSED ONE FOR $1 MILLION MINIMUM INVESTMENT AND 10 JOBS, THE NEW POLICY WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS 300% OVER FIVE.
SO THE PERCENTAGE IS A LITTLE LESS.
AND THEN FOR, UH, $2.5 MILLION MINIMUM TO 15 JOBS, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING 400% OVER FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN WITH THE LARGER PROJECTS, OVER $5 MILLION CREATED 25, UH, OR MORE JOBS 550% OVER OVER 10.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAIN DIFFERENCES THAT I RECALL FROM SOME WE WORKED ON OVER YEAR.
DID YOU TALK ABOUT, AND YOU I MAY HAVE, I MAY HAVE, YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT ON, UH, ITEM D ON PAGE UH, FOUR ABOUT THE FACILITY PROJECT ADDED LEAST $5 MILLION TO THE TAX 25 JOBS.
IT WAS, THE OLD AMOUNT WAS 500,000.
YOU ONLY HAD, YOU ONLY HAD ONE AMOUNT.
SO THE NEW AMOUNT WOULD BE FIVE.
WELL, FOR THE BIGGER, FOR THE BIGGER WE'RE SUGGESTING YOU HAVE THREE AMOUNTS, THE ONE THAT YOU'RE READING THERE AND THEN THE TWO FOLLOWING ON THE TWO FOLLOWING ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE.
BELIEVE ON THE OLD GUIDELINES, WE, THERE WAS NOT ANY TIED TO
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN THERE.
OR LINKED TO NUMBER OF NEW JOBS CREATED.
OUR OLD TAX, I BELIEVE WAS SILENT ON THAT ALL.
I THOUGHT YOU HAD 10, BUT THAT, THAT WAS, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE OLD ONE IN THERE, AIN'T YOU? OF BOTH OF THEM THEN SHE HIGHLIGHTED.
YEAH, I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND I THINK THE TIER PROCESS IS A GOOD IDEA ALSO.
THIS WILL GIVE US SOMETHING MORE, MORE CONCRETE WORK, WORK FRONT.
THIS OTHER ONE WAS SO, SO VAGUE.
WE BASICALLY HAD TO MAKE IT AS WE WENT ALONG.
SO YEAH, WE, WE MAY HAVE ADDED THAT UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS' PROVISION IS SOMETHING REQUIRED BY TEXAS STATE LAW.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING, IN, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, UH, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT ALL MAJOR CITIES WILL APPROVE THE SAME ONE.
HOFFMAN ALREADY HAS THESE SAME FORMULAS AND UH, CAROL JUST KIND OF FORGOT THEIRS.
I THINK THEY, THEY WILL GET THAT ON THEIR AGENDA WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 20 YET.
MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE IT AS WELL, BUT IT, I THINK RANDALL PASSED THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO MOVE ON PRETTY SOON.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE A TAX, THINK THEY'VE GOT A, A PROJECT THEY'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT OVER THERE, WHICH IS PRETTY, WHY PRECIPITATED THIS, BECAUSE I'D KIND OF FORGOT ABOUT THIS TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
BUT, UH, THAT, THAT THEY WERE ONE CALLED, AND I, I'D LIKE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THE CITY'S ADOPT THIS FIRST BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE CITY OF CORNING, DDC DIRECTOR OVER THERE WHEN I SENT FORWARD ON TO HER SINCE SHE AGREED WITH IT, BUT THE LAST TIME SHE PRESIDENT TO HER BOARD, THEY HAD SOME ISSUES WITH IT, BUT THEY'VE ALL SLIPPED THIS THEN I THINK THEY GOT FOUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
SHE WANTS TO PRESENT IT BACK AT THEIR JANUARY 9TH MEETING TO GO BACK TO IT AGAIN.
SO, UH, I LIKE THIS WHOLE FORMAT WAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO RETAIN IT PENDING
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THE CITY OF TER AND CITY OF NEY, THE CITY OF FAMILY AGREEMENT.THAT THIS IS WHAT, WHY DON'T WE DO THEN? AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER THIS MORNING, WHAT IF, OH, WE COME BACK AND I KNOW THE CITY OF NEY TWEAKED THIS LITTLE, NOT CITY OF NEY SAYS COUGH AND TWEAKED AND LOOKED.
WE HAD ONE MORE PROVISION THAT, THAT WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THE COUNTY, THAT THAT GROUP DIDN'T RECOMMEND THE COUNTY.
WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT BRINGING FIRMS IN THAT PAY MINIMUM WAGE AND NO BENEFITS.
AND, UH, IF YOU DON'T PAY, UH, EXCUSE ME, IF YOU DON'T AT LEAST PROVIDE, IF YOU'RE OVER 50 EMPLOYEES AND DON'T PROVIDE HEALTHCARE INSURANCE TO YOUR EMPLOYEES OR THE, THE, UH, COMPANY IS PAYING 50% OF OIL PREMIUM, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING GET COFFMAN'S NOT GONNA GET TAX.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE WHERE, WHERE WE WERE THERE WHEN WE PRESENTED IT, THEY LOVED EVERYTHING IN HERE, BUT THEY SAID WE WANTED TO KEEP THIS, THE GROUP THAT RECOMMENDED THIS.
NONE OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE THAT.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENED? TER ADD THEIRS AND PAY BANK OR WHOEVER AND FOREIGN ADD THEIRS AND EVERYBODY DOES A LITTLE TWEAKING TO IT.
BUT I MEAN, DO WE WANT TO TWEAK OURS? EVERY SOMEBODY TWEAKS THEIRS, I GUESS, UH, LOOKS LIKE TO ME WE ALL JUST KIND OF HAVE THE GENERIC ONE AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A I BM OR SOMETHING LOCATED HERE, I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
YEAH, THAT'S THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND AND IS THAT EVERY, EVERY PROJECT STILL ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS POLICY THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO OFFER TAX AVAILABLE TO SOME PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A NO FOR ANY WITHOUT A REASON.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A REASON.
OR AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE GET AN IBM OR A, UH, GENERAL MOTOR, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO BUILD A 200 MILLION PLAN FOR A THOUSAND WORKERS AND IT'S DOWN TO US IN THE SUBURB OF ATLANTA, GEORGIA, AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT WE GOTTA HAVE 10, A HUNDRED PERCENT TAX ABATEMENT FOR 10 YEARS.
I'M HOPING Y'ALL ARE GONNA DO THAT.
UH, BUT THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS MORE OF A GUIDELINE FOR OF MORE TYPICAL PROJECTS, THAT MILLION DOLLARS, $5 MILLION, 10 MILLION PROJECTS.
HEY, I MEAN, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF WE WAIT UNTIL DOES THERE AND POINT TO US THERE, TOM, I DON'T MAY PARTICIPATE OR, AND THE DISCUSSION, UH, THEY DID NOT MAYBANK NOR KEMP PROVIDED ANYBODY THAT, AND YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, THEY DON'T HAVE FULL-TIME DEDICATED OR EVEN PART-TIME DEDICATED ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT, UH, AT MAYBANK, I THOUGHT THAT, WELL, HE'S, HE'S, ANYWAY, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? YOU WANNA WAIT UNTIL WE SEE WHAT NY DOES OR DO YOU WANNA WAIT TILL WE GET WHAT CAROL DOES? YOU, I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU NEED A GOOD POLICY IN PLACE TODAY, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD POLICY AND YOU COULD ALWAYS AMEND IT LATER IF, IF THEY'RE TWEAKING, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THEIRS AT A LATER DATE AND IF THEY'RE, IF YOU LIKE THEIR TWEAKING, WHATEVER THEY DO, YOU COULD IMPLEMENT IT HERE.
YOU MIGHT LIKE OURS, YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT LIKE THE FACT THAT WE WANT INDUSTRY THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE GOOD CORPORATE CITIZENS AND PROVIDE FOLKS WITH GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE.
BUT THIS IS, I I JUST THINK THIS IS A LOT BETTER POLICY THAN WHAT WE HAVE CURRENT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WANT TO MIMIC EVERY CITY'S NEEDS OR WHATEVER BECAUSE EVERY CITY'S GOT DIFFERENT NEEDS TYPE.
UH, I WAS REQUESTED BY THE CITY TO POSTPONE JANUARY 9TH.
NOT THAT I DISAGREE WITH THIS AT ALL.
AND, AND THEIR REASON FOR WANTING TO POSTPONE IT IS SAME REASON.
WE HAVEN'T DONE, THEY FORGOT ABOUT IT.
JUST LIKE CAROL I GUESS IS PUT ON A BACK BURNER, BUT IT'S GONNA BE ON THERE JANUARY 9TH.
I DO WHATEVER Y'ALL WORRIED ABOUT THE CITY DOING IT, RIGHT? COULD WE AS A COUNTY GO AHEAD AND SOMEBODY'S GOTTA LEAD.
WE, WE'VE GOTTA BE LEADERS FOR OUR COUNTY AND I THINK IF WE LEAVE, THEY'VE GOTTA GO BY THIS DOCUMENT THAT'LL ENCOURAGE THE TO PICK UP.
WELL, THEY CAN TWEAK IT IF THEY WANT.
DO LIKE, JOHN, YOU I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY AND TECA THAT SENTIMENT OF, OF THE COUNTY MEETING TO DECIDE IS THAT IT OCCURS TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE A RARE SITUATION THAT YOU'D HAVE MORE THAN ONE CITY AT A TIME THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE TIP, BUT THE COUNTY WOULD ALWAYS BE INVOLVED IN THE TIP BECAUSE
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IT WOULD ALWAYS OCCUR IN THE COUNTY.IT MIGHT OCCUR IN A DIFFERENT CITY.
UM, CAN MENTIONED OCCURRING IN ETJ, BUT IN TERMS OF IT MATCHING EVERYONE ELSE, UH, I DON'T, I DUNNO THAT YOU NEED TO BE AS CONCERNED WITH THAT.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT, UH, THAT IS CORRECT, THAT IT'LL BE A CASE BY CASE ANYWAY.
I MEAN, THESE ARE YOUR PUBLIC GUIDELINES THAT INCENTIVIZE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE MORE YOU PUT IN, THE MORE YOU CAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOOD IDEA.
SPEND MORE MONEY, HIRE MORE PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE NEEDS.
BUT I'M, I'M JUST SAYING IT DOESN'T HAVE, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO MATCH ANYONE ELSE.
TANYA WOULD, IT'D BE NICE IF IT DID, BUT DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE ANXIOUSLY WANTING TO SAY SOMETHING.
I MAY HAVE YOU, DID YOU WANT SAY SOMETHING? OKAY, I DIDN'T HEAR.
WELL, FIRST WE HAD YOU, YOU DID MAKE THAT A FORMAL MOTION, DID YOU NOT? YES, I DID.
HOWEVER, TO KEEP FROM HAVING WHATEVER I MOTION.
I WANTED MAKE THAT ONE THAT I REQUESTED TO DO THAT, TO DO THAT, AND I DID DO WHAT I WAS REQUESTED TO DO.
AND JUDY, I'M SURE WILL, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE OKAY THEN WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER ROSA TO ADOPT IT AS VIRGINIA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, SHANE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS AND UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY DONE SOME TIME AGO.
UH, BUT, UH, WE'LL, UH, ANGIE, DO WE HAVE A CLEAN COPY OF THIS? UH, YOUR HONOR.
BUT THIS IS OUR TAX ABATEMENT POLICY, BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO THANK YOU.
RAY, DO YOU WANNA BE PUT ON RECORD THAT YOU TABLED THIS? YOU, YOU, UH, FIRST AT A TABLE, ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AMENDING SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO READ.
THE SUBDIVISION HAS NO DERO CONSTRUCTION AND NO NEW DRAINAGE DIVERTED.
CONER MAY BE OBTAINED FROM US GS MAPS OR NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GO DFW MAPS TO BE SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED PLAT.
AND RAY, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD, UH, WORKED WITH.
AND JIMMY WORKED ON THAT TOGETHER.
AND RAY HAS A SPECIFIC WORD, YEAH.
GREG, GREG HAS LOOKED US OVER AND GREG HERE.
YEAH, WE THOUGHT A LOT OF GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS ON, UH, CLARIFYING SOME THINGS.
AND THIS WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT JIMMY AND I HAVE KIND OF COME UP WITH, WITH GREG ADDED.
SO JUST, WE ADDED TWO WORDS TO IT.
IT SAYS WHERE WE HAVE TO BE SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED FLAT.
I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO BE SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED PRELIMINARY FLAT ON IT THAT WOULD KEEP IT FROM HAVING TO BE ON THE FINAL FLAT.
GRAY SAYS, I'M NOT ROOM GETTING ON THERE ANYWAY, SO IT KIND OF CLEARS IT UP A BIT.
SO ALL WE'RE CHANGING IS READ, READ THAT AGAIN.
WHERE IT SAYS TO BE SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED PLAT CHANGE THAT, CHANGE THAT TO, TO BE SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED PRELIMINARY PLAT ONLY.
AND THE TWO WERE SUBMITTED BEFORE FLAT AND ONLY AFTER THAT.
OR YOU COULD ADD AS AN ATTACHED DOCUMENT.
AND THAT ALMOST HAS TO BE THE WAY HAS TO BE PRESENTED BECAUSE THE RECEIVED FROM CO YES.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE PROJECT SPECIFIC.
THEY HAVE A BIG MAP ALSO WERE TAKEN FROM SATELLITE.
SO ACCURACY SUSPECT SOMETIMES IT'S WHAT IT'S, HAVE YOU REVIEWED THESE? I KIND OF PLAYED AROUND ON THE WEBSITE AND JUST SATELLITE.
IN YOUR OPINION, IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR A PROJECT THAT HAS NOT A NEW CONSTRUCTION? I THINK SO.
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OKAY.AS, AS YOU STATED EARLIER, DO YOU WANNA STUDY ONE MORE TIME FOR ALL TIME SAKE? I BELIEVE THAT WE AND THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO READ WHEN THE SUBDIVISION HAS NO NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND NO NEW DRAINAGE DIVERSION, THE CONTRARY MAY BE OBTAINED FROM USGS MAPS OR NC CT SLASH DW MAPS TO BE SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED PRELIMINARY FLAT ONLY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK, WE NEED TO WORD IT LIKE GREG SUGGESTED.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE ONLY FLAT OR IT SHOULD BE FOR A ATTACHED DOCUMENT SHOULD BE SUBMITTED ON A PRELIMINARY PLAT OR AS AN ATTACHED DOCUMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT SHOULD BE SUBMITTED WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AS AN ATTACHED DOCUMENT.
IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE RIGHT.
BE AN ATTACHED DOCUMENT WITH THE SUBMITTAL.
YOU WANNA ADD THAT TO YOUR MOTION? YOU PUT THE WORDS ON IT.
YOU GET THAT DOWN YOU THINK? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AS, UH, AND IT WAS KIND OF, UH, AMENDED, UH, COMMISSIONER ZA A LITTLE BIT AND I SUPPOSE COMMISSIONER ZA, YOU WANT TO SECOND THAT? I WILL SECOND THAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DOES EVERYBODY THIS KIND OF BRING US ALL TO THE SAME PAGE? OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE I, THOSE PARTIES.
GREG, YOU MIGHT STAY UP JUST IN CASE, BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER ONE I WANT TO TRY TO GET THROUGH AGAIN, IS TO DISCUSS NUMBER TENS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING PRELIMINARY PLA FOR THE WINDING CREEK RANCH, SUBDIVISION COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER.
YES, WE'VE HAD, UH, QUITE SOME CONFUSION BETWEEN OUR, OUR, UM, ACTUAL APPLICATION, UH, UH, DOCUMENT AND OUR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS.
AND I, I'VE, UH, PROVIDED WITH Y'ALL A TIMELINE OF THIS, EVERYTHING THAT'S WENT ON WITH THIS WINE RANCH AND AT THE LAST MEETING, OR THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THE TOPO MAPS AS AN ISSUE AND TRIED TO GET AWAY FROM THAT WAS NOT AGREED TO.
SO I SUPPLIED Y'ALL ALL DOCUMENT THERE.
AND ACCORDING TO THE, UH, APPLICATION THAT MR. LANE GOT ORIGINALLY, IT, UM, STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE FOR, UM, THE, UH, THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL, YOU KNOW, FINAL PLA ONLY, NO CONSTRUCTION, UH, THAT HE DID NOT HAVE TO PRESENT PRELIMINARY.
SO WE KIND OF WAITED THROUGH THAT AND HE'S ACTUALLY GOT A PRELIMINARY AND FILING NOW.
AND AT ON THE TIMELINE YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, HE'S GOT A, UH, ON OCTOBER 7TH HE GOT A LETTER OF APPROVAL, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEER REVIEW BY ENGINEER.
AND THEN WE, UH, WE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED ON NOVEMBER 25TH THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE FINAL PLAT FOR ACCEPTANCE.
AND, UH, WITH THE REQUEST FOR VARIANCE, WE DID NOT GRANT.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD IN OUR POSSESSION SINCE NOVEMBER 25TH, THE, UH, THE, UH, FINAL PLACE AND NOW WE HAVE THE TOPO MAP TO GO WITH THAT.
SO I THINK HE'S MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, ACCORDING TO THE LETTER FOR THE ENGINEERS.
AND, UH, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ACCEPT, UM, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THEN IN THE 21 DAYS FROM THAT TIME, WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, APPROVE IT AND THE NEXT ITEM THAT YOU SEE IS ACCEPTED THE FINAL PLA, WHICH WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD IN OUR POSSESSION SINCE NOVEMBER 25TH.
SO IF WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE TWO AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE IN OUR NEXT MEETING THAT WILL GET HIM THE PROJECT OBJECT.
SINCE WE HAVE HIM ON THE TWO DIFFERENT
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DISCUSSIONS.LET'S GO AHEAD SIR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE 10? YES.
TO ACCEPT THE PRELIMINARY WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS IN HE'S MET ALL REQUIREMENTS.
SECOND A FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACCEPTING A FINAL PLAN FOR WIND CREEK SUBDIVISION COUNTY PRECINCT NUMBER ONE.
THAT MOTION ALSO, MR. ACCEPT MOTION.
THOSE BOTH MOTION CARRIED CLARIFICATION.
THERE WAS IN OUR SECOND REGULATION IT SAYS THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE A LETTER FROM THE TAX ASSESSOR THAT THE ROLLBACK TAX THAT BEEN PAID.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IF THEY DON'T GO ON WITH WHAT, IF THEY GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, THEN DECIDE NOT DO THAT ON THE ROLLBACK TAXES ACTUALLY DO, IF THEY'RE STILL UNDER AGRICULTURAL USE.
YOU REMEMBER HIM THAT BEING IN THERE ANYMORE? THE ROADMAP TAXES.
HE SUPPLIED A LETTER SAYING THAT ALL, ALL EXISTING TAXES, YOU KNOW, CURRENT AND THEN IN HIS, UH, IN HIS COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS, IT STATES THAT EACH LAND WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EACH ONE OF THEIR PROPERTIES IF THEY WISH TO CHANGE THE USE OF THE, UH, THIS, THIS BRINGS TO MIND THE DISCUSSION WE MAY NEED TO HAVE WITH CHRIS PIECE AND WITH TOMMY, I ASKED CHRIS THE OTHER DAY, HOW DO THEY FIND OUT WHENEVER A PROPERTY CHANGES FROM AG VALUE TO MARKET VALUE AND THERE IS NOT A FORMAL PROCESS THEY GO THROUGH, I DON'T THINK, UH, THEY JUST HEAR IT FROM THEIR FIELD APPRAISAL AND I NEED TO BE SOME SORT OF FORMALITY.
UH, MY BELIEF IS, IS WE HAVE PROPERTY THAT PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO ROLLBACK IN THE PAST THAT PROBABLY THEY WEREN'T ASSESSED ROLLBACK TAXES.
AND BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOT A FORMAL, UH, PROCESS THAT CHIEF FRAZIER AND APPRAISAL WHAT TIME DAY.
I MEAN THEY, I ASKED HIM SPECIFICALLY AND HE SAID, WELL THAT'S SOMETHING WE BEEN ON OUR FIELD APPRAISERS TO GIVE US THAT.
AND, UH, I MEAN LOOKED SORT FORMALITY.
ONE THAT BROUGHT TO MIND WAS THE, UH, UH, THE UH, QT STATION.
YOU KNOW, I ASKED CHRIS WAS HE AWARE OF THAT AND UH, HE SAID, WELL, HE WAS NOT AWARE OF WAS IN AG USE.
AND UH, HE SAID, WELL, I, WE HAD TO PICK UP ONE.
THAT TRACTOR HAS ALREADY CHANGED AND THEY DO ROLLBACK TAXES PAID WHENEVER THE CHANGE HANDS CHANGE, USE, CHANGE USE.
SO IF THEY'RE OUT DOING DIRT WORK, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE CHANGE USE.
I WONDER A LITTLE BIT, AND MAYBE WE MAY BE FINE, BUT UH, THAT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BY LAW LEGITIMATE, WE MAY WANNA GET CHRIS TO COME IN AND TALK TO US A ABOUT MORE FORMAL WAY.
NOW IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? THIS IS UNDER 4.3 10.
ITEM B SAYS A CERTIFICATE FOR EACH TAX COLLECTOR, A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, STATING THAT ALL TAXES ARE PAID AND NOT DELINQUENT AND SHOWING THE ROLLBACK TAXES ARE PAID.
TO ME, THAT'S A LITTLE, UH, RESTRICTED ON THE, THE DEVELOPER AND THAT
HE'S PAYING FIVE YEARS OF FULL TAXES, NOT ON AGRICULTURAL TAXES.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WAS INTENDED FOR SUBDIVISIONS WHERE IT'S GONNA BE LIKE ONE ACRE LOTS WHERE CAN'T GET ANYWAY, RATHER THAN FIVE, THEY CAN STILL GET AGRICULTURE.
THIS DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE SIDE LOT ON THERE.
THE INDIVIDUALS STILL THAT IF YOU GET A, YOU CAN GET, YOU CAN AGRI FROM EXEMPTION ON ONE LOT.
I HAD NO, HE HAS TO BE FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES BECAUSE DISTRICT THAT IF YOU'VE GOT A, UH, A BARGAIN
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THAT YOU'RE SELLING PRODUCE AT, YOU KNOW, A 10 GARDEN'S, A LOT OF PRODUCE TAKE TO TAKE CARE OF, AND SO YOU COULD HAVE AN ACRE BARGAIN THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY MAKING MONEY OFF OF TO SELL YOU ON A MARKET OR GROCERY STORE OR WHATEVER.COULD I SAYING YOU WOULD, YOU COULD QUALIFY FOR AN AGRICULTURE EXEMPTION THAT THERE'S NO RESTRICTION ON THE SIDES.
SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING CHANGE THE REGULATION? WELL, LIKE I SAY, IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT WOULD BE, IF I WAS GONNA DEVELOP MY PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE I HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON WHAT IF I, WHAT IF I DECIDE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW THAT I DON'T WANT SOMETHING ABOUT, I WANNA KEEP, I WANNA KEEP ON THAT, UH, TO COME BACK IN FOR A SECOND.
WELL, I DO, I DON'T WANT SLOW DOWN A LONG, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY AWAY FROM I BELIEVE THE PRESENT DISTRICT ON, UH, VALUES, UH, TO KEEP FROM HAVING THE PERCEPTION THAT WE'RE RAISING VALUES UP TO INCREASE OUR INCOME.
I I DUNNO WHO WHAT ROLL BACK WHAT'S NOT ROLL BACK.
I MEAN THAT'S, IT MAY, IT MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE.
I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THERE.
I THINK IT'S TOO, LIKE I I BUT THAT JIMMY'S PURPOSES RIGHT HERE.
I THINK THAT'S ON, UH, THAT WOULD BE ON, UH, APPROVAL, PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE ON IT.
GO ACCEPTANCE OF IT PLA RIGHT.
I GUESS WE FIND THAT FOR SURE WHETHER WE GET THE FINAL, WHEN WE DO THE FINAL APPROVAL REQUIREMENT OR WE, WE TALKED AGAIN ABOUT THIS AFTER 21 DAYS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YEAH, WE HAVE TO WAIT 21 DAYS.
TANYA JUDGE ARE LISTED FOR THIS.
PARDON? IS THIS ON THE AGENDA? WELL, IT'S ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ROLLBACK TAXES AS BEING A PART OF THE SUBDIVISION AND, UH, THAT OUR OLD REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED THAT ROLLBACK TAXES, THAT THERE'D BE A LETTER SHOWN THAT THE ROLLBACK TAXES WERE COLLECTED WHEN THE PLAT WAS APPROVED.
IS THAT RIGHT? BASICALLY, I BELIEVE THE WAS, UH, PRESENTED FOR PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR ACCEPT.
SO I TOOK THAT AS IT WAS A LEGITIMATE DISCUSSION.
TANJA, CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN US A LITTLE BIT OR AT LEAST ENLIGHTEN ME ON ROLLBACK TAXES? Y Y'ALL ARE JUST FINDING OUT RIGHT NOW.
I I'M NOT SURE THE QUESTION, SIR.
WELL, THE, THE QUESTION IS WE, WE'VE JUST, UH, APPROVED UH, UH, A PLA MR. LANE WHO'S BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES TO TRY TO GET THIS STARTED AND UNDER OUR OLD, UH, SUBDIVISION OR I GUESS OUR WHOLE, OUR CURRENT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, IT SAYS AS WHENEVER THE PLAT IS GIVEN APPROVAL THAT THE ROLLBACK TAXES SHOULD THAT, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID MORE APPROVAL.
THE DEPARTMENT LETTER SAYING THE ROLLBACK TAX HAS BEEN PAID.
UH, I DIDN'T PERSONALLY DO IT.
DID YOU GO TO THE OFFICE AND ASK FOR IT TO BE DONE? NO.
YEAH, THE ROLLBACK TAX WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID IF YOU'RE GONNA USE THE AG PROPERTY FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE.
BUT WHENEVER SOMEBODY CHANGES A PIECE OF AG LAND TO, UH, THEY SUBDIVIDED OR PUT IT INTO A, UH, FLAT, UH, THEN HOW DO WE, OR DO YOU APPROVE THAT? DO YOU NOW IT GOES TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WILL CHANGE THE, THEIR EXEMPTIONS FROM AG BACK TO WHATEVER IT WILL BE AND THEN THEY TELL US AND THEN WE'LL SEND OUT A CORRECTED TAX STATEMENT.
WELL, IN OUR THAT WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING IS WHAT OUR POLICY STATE THAT BE ANOTHER THING WE MIGHT WANT, I DUNNO REASON THAT WAS IN THERE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE GETTING THE BEFORE THE BIT THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE, I KNEW LAURA, THAT YOU WERE ABOVE THAT WAY BACK WHEN YOU WERE, YOU DO THE REASON WHY THAT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THAT
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IS A REQUIREMENT WE NEED TO TAKE OUT.JOHN, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON IT EITHER WAY? I DON'T, I DON'T.
ANOTHER BLINDSIDED
I GUESS WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD TO PROLONG THAT CONVERSATION, BUT IT DID SEEM LIKE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DISCUSS THAT ALL.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE C FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
MR. CLARK, I BELIEVE YOU HAD TO OBJECT.
THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE SHORT SECTION OF THE BREEDER ROAD THAT GOES INTO DISTRICT ONE C EQUIP.
THERE'S ABOUT 200 FEET OF THE ROAD THAT LASTS.
THAT'S BETWEEN THEIR POCKET SECTION AND THE COUNTY ROAD SECTION.
WE'RE GONNA OVERLAY THE COUNTY AND OVERLAY THAT SECTION OF THE SAME TOWN AND THEY'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT.
SO I'LL DO, WE ENTERED THE PROJECT, SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE INTER AND I GUESS EVERYBODY GOT A COPY OF THE YEAH, I'VE GOT A ONE HERE SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNED HERE, HERE TO SIGN ONE.
THEY'RE COPY A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO, UH, CONSIDER UH, AND DISCUSS PURCHASING AN ASPHALT ZIPPER FOR PRECINCT TWO ROAD BRIDGE UTILIZING THE A-H-G-A-C PURCHASING PROPERTY.
HAVE A REQUEST FROM, UH, MR. CLARK PRECINCT TWO TO PURCHASE THAT EQUIPMENT.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE, UH, TOTAL 24 990 THAT IS ON CONTRACT RECOMMENDATION.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, I'LL SPRAY THAT.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS A, IT SAYS 203 HORSEPOWER COMING ENGINES PLUS BUNDLE OF 48 INCH GROUND BOX.
WHAT IS A BUNDLE OF 48? IT'S ADDED TO THE, UH, DIFFERENT SIZE BOXES ON THERE, RIGHT? 20 36, 6.
OH, YOU GET, YOU CAN GO UP TO 48 INCH.
QUESTION ANSWER, IT ATTACHES TO INTERRUPT.
ALRIGHT, HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, PURCHASE THIS FOR PRECINCT TWO.
UH, COMMISSIONER CLARK MAKES A MOTION.
HAVE A SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION GOING.
UH, I WAITED TILL UH, YOU, I KNEW HE WAS GONNA BUY THIS THING, BUT WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE TAX MONEY COME IN SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO, THIS MACHINE'S GONNA BE SIX WEEKS OUT BEFORE IT DELIVERED, SO WE WON'T BE, HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY ROAD BRIDGE TAX MONEY COMING IN.
IT'S GONNA BE PAID FOR LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY, AND I'LL MAKE A LINE ITEM TRANSFER PRIOR TO THAT PART.
COME, I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION, COMMISSION MAY WANT FINANCE THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? MAY NOT FINANCE PART OF THAT.
SO AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, WE'LL GET TOGETHER, DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF IT WE WANT, AND YOU'RE GOING THE OTHER COMMISSIONER NEEDED.
I'LL BE GLAD TO DO ANYTHING THEY WANNA DO TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
OF COURSE IT COMES WITH THE OPERATOR, SO THE CHAIRS THAT WE KNOW.
ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 14 IS DISCUSSED.
DID WE, AND ALL IN FAVOR, SAY A, A, SORRY.
ITEM NUMBER 14, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AWARDING BID NUMBER 14, UH, OH ONE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS ROAD MATERIALS.
MY EMAIL FRIDAY IN CASE YOU'LL HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
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AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU, JEFF, ON ALL THESE PRODUCTS.UH, IN OTHER WORDS, JUST FOR INSTANCE, ON THE SECTION ONE FIRST PAGE SAYS PRICE PER TON AT PLANT SITE PRECINCT BOARD DELIVERED.
IS THAT, IS THAT OUR FOB PRICE AT MALCO? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE, IN WORDS IT SAYS DELIVERED I WANT THE FOB PRICE.
OTHER WORDS WHAT? I CAN GO WHERE AND PICK IT UP FOR.
THAT'S $70 70 AT YOU TALKING ABOUT THE UH, TYPE D ITEM? YES.
UHHUH FIRST ITEM, $70 AT PRECINCT 180 1 AND THEN 82 50.
AND UH, I THINK YOU ARE AWARE THAT, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER YOU'RE OR NOT, BUT WE, UH, WE AWARD A PRIMARY, SECONDARY AND OFFICE BASED ON PROXIMITY.
YOU KNOW, ONE GUY MAY BE LOW FOR YOU BUT NOT APPRECIATE FORM.
BASICALLY I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE AWARD, UH, PER THE UH, UH, BID TABULATION TO ALL PARTIES.
DID, DID, UH, TRINITY NOT BID ON BASE MATERIAL? I BELIEVE WE DID NOT AT ALL.
THAT WAS THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
THAT'S GONNA BE TOUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO ROCK CRUSHERS.
THEY JUST MISS IT OR WHAT? I'LL SAY THIS, UH, FIRST BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY HOLDING PEOPLE'S HAND AND, AND FILL A BID OUT FOR THEM, UH, WE WERE CALLING, UH, WEDNESDAY WE HAD ONE BID AND WE CALLED ALL THE VENDORS REMINDER.
WE HAD A VEHICLE DAY VERY PROACTIVE AND ALERTING EVERYBODY.
SO THEY STILL PURCHASE MATERIAL FROM THEM OR NOT? NO.
ALSO ON THIS, ON THIS THREE, UH, PIG, UH, I'M SHOWING, UH, ON THE FOB, THERE'S NO BID ON IT AND ALL THEY'RE SHOWING IS A DELIVERED PRICE THAT IN SOME CASES THEY'LL DO THAT BECAUSE THEY, THEY, I GUESS THEY OWN WHETHER THEY OWN THE TRUCKS OR THEY HAVE AGREEMENT WITH THEIR, BUT UH, ADE YOU'LL SEE WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE A PICKUP FROM.
SO WE COULD STILL GO TO TRINITY TO THEIR BASE PLANTS AND GET UP TO $49,000 WORTH OF ROCK FROM PER YEAR.
AT WHATEVER PRICE THEIR NORMAL SELLING PRICE IS.
IS THIS EACH PRECINCT, MR. COUNTY, COUNTYWIDE COUNTY, I MEAN THEY'RE RIGHT.
WE HAD THAT SAME PROBLEM ON ONE OF THE, IT WAS A CRUSHED ASPHALT, BUT SOUTHWEST WOULD NOT BE ON WE FOUND PIGGYBACK.
IF THERE'S A ANOTHER COUNTY OUT THERE THAT HAS A CONTRACT PIGGYBACK, I HAVE NO, I CAN'T CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT FOR, IN OUR EASTERN PART OF OUR PRECINCT A FEW MILES, BUT WE CAN'T, UH, PIGGYBACK ONTO THE STATES, UH, BY BOARD.
THEY BUY FROM BUY WELL I'M ABOUT DO THEY HAVE BUY CAN PIGGYBACK ON THEM AND WHAT GRADE BY? I CAN CHECK.
CONTRACT TEXT STOCK MATERIALS GONNA BE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN AVERAGE.
DIFFERENT YEAH, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING OTHER THAN, BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER IF YOU PIGGYBACK, I AGREE.
DOES NOT THE VENDOR HAVE THE RIGHT TO PIGGYBACK OR NOT PIGGYBACK? WHEN I PUT OUT A BID, LIKE MOST OTHER ENTITIES, I'LL HAVE A PAGE THAT SAYS YOU AGREE TO SELL OTHER, OTHER ENTITIES OF THIS PRICE.
SO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CHECK THAT THEY WILL SELL THE MATERIAL ES KIND SPRING BUSINESS.
I YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A, UH,
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VENDOR IN HUNT COUNTY FOR INSTANCE, SOMETIMES THEY'RE IN HUNT COUNTY AND OUR PRO OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT HUNT COUNTY'S GONNA GO OVER THERE NO MATTER WHAT THE PRICE.IT'S A STRANGE WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO SAY YES, THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW PIGGYBACKING? THEY DO, YES.
THEY HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO ON THEIR, THEY HAVE TO SAY YES.
IF I HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT ASKS YOU IF YOU AGREE TO SELL TO OTHER COUNTY THAT ARE PRICE, THEY HAVE TO CHECK ON MY BID DOCUMENT.
SO ACCORDING TO THIS AGREEMENT WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOWHERE TO GET THAT.
WE CAN GO PICK UP INCH AND THREE QUARTER FLEX BASE OTHER THAN, EXCEPT UP TO $49,000 WORK.
IT IS A THREE QUARTER FLEX BASE.
SO $7, UH, AT FROM BIG CITY AT BIG CITY FOREST AVENUE, WHICH IS IN FOREST AVENUE IN DALLAS.
SO EIGHT 50 AT SOUTHWEST CRE, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO VENDORS HERE, EIGHT 50 SOUTH WEST AND $7 AT, AT, UH, BIG CITY.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA SELL IT TO US OVER HERE, MAN.
UNLESS THEY HAVE, UNLESS THEY HAVE A CONTRACT THAT YOU COULD, THAT THEY AGREED TO PIG PIGGYBACK OFF IF YOU GENERALLY WANT REJECT THE ENTIRE BID, REJECT THE ENTIRE BID, THEN DID, DID THAT'S, DID THEY RELATE TO YOU ANY, ANY REASONING THAT THEY WEREN'T GONNA BID? OR DID, DID THEY JUST MISS IT OR DID THEY NOT, DID THEY INTEND NOT TO BE IT? WE, I CAN'T DELIVER IT.
SO THEY, THEY INTENDED TO DO SOMETHING INTENDED NOT TO DO IT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ALL SAID WHAT.
I KNOW THAT WE CALLED, UH, EVERY VENDOR THAT BID LAST TIME WE CALLED EVERY VENDOR THAT, UH, HAS HAD OUR BID IN THE PAST.
THERE WERE ONE OR TWO THAT SAID THEY WOULD NOT BID.
AND WE HAD SEVERAL SAY THAT, UH, THEY WOULD TRY TO GET THE PITCHING IN ON TIME AND UH, WE'D REMIND CLOSE 10 O'CLOCK FRIDAY, THURSDAY.
UH, SO WE KNOW WE DIDN'T FOLLOW UP ON WHY YOU DIDN'T BID.
WE, WE HELD OUR HANDS AND RIGHT.
CALLED THEM TO REMIND THEM BEYOND THAT THEY BID, THEY DELIBERATE BID THE POINT FOR SOME REASON.
DO YOU THINK, DO YOU THINK IT'S THE TIME OF YEAR THAT WE, THAT WE'RE GOING OUT FOR BIDS THAT DUE TO LACK OF PARTICIPATION? I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE DON'T, DON'T RESPOND TO THIS.
I MEAN, IT'S, UH, YOU, YOU GET A CONTRACT READY TO GO FIRST OF YEAR BUCKS.
I MEAN CAMP, WE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO UH, REACH OUT TO THEM, GET THEY DID THE THING ON BIG GRAB.
I GUESS THEY DIDN'T WANT, THERE WAS NO ONE PAYING SEVEN A TON TO 1250 A TON DELIVER UNLESS, HEY, WHAT'S YOUR, UH, WHAT'S YOUR PLAY HERE ON THIS WHEN OUR CURRENT CONTRACT? I, I WOULD IF YOU A AWARD DAY ON THIS OR YOU CAN LOAD IT UP TO ME NOW AND IN OF YEAR, WHATEVER, YOU TOO LATE.
I MEAN IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE USE ON ANNUAL BASIS.
UH, JACK, DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION? I MEAN, DO YOU, YOU THINK IT WOULD REBID, DO YOU THINK IT, UH, WHAT THAT SLOWS IT DOWN.
I KNOW, BUT WOULD BE THE NEXT POSSIBLE BID OPENING BID TIME.
IT TAKES ABOUT THREE WEEKS, JUDGE TO PRE THE PROCESS NOW.
LIKE, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO, UH,
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AWARD CERTAIN ITEMS LIKE A RABBIT 6, 6, 7, 5, I THINK IT'S STILL ABOUT SAME FIVE.IF YOU GUYS WANT TO THIS AND UH, AWARD THE ITEMS THAT, THAT, UH, MEET YOUR REQUIREMENT, THEN ON THE OTHERS, THAT'S AN OPTION.
WE AWARD ALL THE ITEMS ON THE FIRST PAGE.
THAT WOULD GET US OUR, UH, OUR ASPHALT, OUR OUR WRAP MATERIAL TIED.
UH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK THAT WRAP MATERIAL IS GONNA GET PRETTY SCARCE FOR THE FUTURE.
WE COULD, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THE COURT WISHES YOU COULD, UH, AWARD ITEM, AWARD SECTION ONE, WHICH WHICH IS ASPHALT PRODUCT ARE IN LINE.
WELL, CAN WE, CAN WE, UH, AWARD SECTION ONE AND THEN ON THE LAST PAGE, UH, ON ALL SAND THAT
THERE'S NO BID ON CREW THOUGH.
ALL THAT'S UP THE SPOT, RIGHT? THAT THAT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE ON THERE BEYOND POSSIBLY THAT WAS THAT LAST BID, BUT I DON'T THINK WE BOUGHT ANY PAST.
UH, AND I THINK THE, UH, THE LAST ITEM APAC ON THE, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WE ALSO PIGGYBACK OFF DALLAS COUNTY.
DALLAS COUNTY PROBABLY ABOUT TIME SEVEN 70.
I'M NOT WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY DID TO ME THE OTHER DAY, DALLAS COUNTY CONTRACT AND EVEN THOUGH WE DO AWARD, WE WERE AWARDED, WE TOOK UTILIZE DALLAS COUNTY CONTRACT IF YOU WANT, UH, YOU GO BACK FOR A, I GUESS AS A CONTRACTOR I'VE ALREADY PUT MY BEST PRICE OUT ON THE PAPER FOR EVERYBODY'S SEAT THAT TOOK.
IS EVERYBODY GONNA TRY TO MEET THAT EVERYBODY, THEIR PRICES BACK UP DOWN THERE? I LIKE TO GO DOWN THERE AND PICK IT UP BECAUSE WE'RE SO CLOSE RIGHT THERE AT CURR.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT HAVE IT DELIVER IT TO YOUR PRECINCT BARN AND TURN AROUND AND HAUL IT HALFWAY, THREE QUARTER WAY BACK.
I SPEND 10 TIME TO HAVE IT DELIVERED.
WELL TIME TO HAVE IT DELIVERED IF YOU GENERALLY WANT TO AWARD, UH, SECTION ONE AND THEN THE LAST SECTION THREE, SECTION THREE AND I CAN SECTION ONE, SECTION THREE SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CLARK TO AWARD SECTION ONE AND SECTION THREE.
I'M SORRY, I ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I THOSE OPPOSED, I I DID NOT GET THAT.
YOU WANTED TO APPROVE SECTION ONE AND SECTION THREE AWARD SECTION ONE AND SECTION THREE ON SURPRISED THEY TRY TO HERE WITH US TO WORK WITH US.
YOU WOULD THINK IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT EXCEPT I SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'LL SEND EMAILS AND MAYBE THAT GUY'S NOT THERE ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWED UP.
OVER TOT WORTH AND I'LL CHECK IN OUT HERE BECAUSE ON OUR ISSUES OVER HERE.
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ALRIGHTY.NEXT ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THAT WE'RE DOING THE BUDGET? I DO ON THE, UM, JAIL EXPENSE.
YOU GOT THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2013.
IT IT STAPLED OR IT IT WAS BEHIND THE UH, ING RIGHT BUDGET FOR THE JAIL EXPENSE FOR MEDICAL DENTAL? YES.
AND, AND, AND THAT IS INDEED FOR THE 2013 YEAR MM-HMM
SO DID WE HAVE BILL COME IN AFTER FISCAL YEAR, SIR? YES SIR.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE NOTHING COVER GOING ON AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT SAID IT CAME OUT OF THE MEDICAL CONTRACT AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT MONEY WAS LEFT OVER NOT, I, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT I GUESS THAT'S A DEPARTMENT THING IF YOU HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER ITEM.
AND THAT IS BASICALLY THE SAME ON THE, THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER THAT'S SHOWING 2014, RIGHT? THAT'S THE NEW BUDGET.
UM, THE UM, CHILD SHELTER BOARD CALLED ME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND SAID THEY DID NOT WANT ANY EMPLOYEES TO GET THE ADDITIONAL 600 AND I INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
SO I WONDER IF WE DO UH, APPROVE RAISE ACROSS THE BOARD MARQUETTE AND THERE IS A BOARD THAT OVERSEES THAT.
THEY HAVE THE PARTY TO DAY OR THEY THAT YES.
WHAT THEY HAD ALREADY ADJUSTED.
WHAT ABOUT ADULT PROBATION WANT WE INCREASE THEIR SALARIES.
WHO PROVES THAT? UH, THAT IS APPROVED BY THE STATE HISTORY OF JUDGES AND UH, THE ADULT PROBATION DIRECTOR AND GOES TO THE STATE AND THEY APPROVE A TWO YEAR BUDGET.
SO THE STATE, THE STATE DOESN'T APPROVE THAT.
THEY APPROVE WHAT I GUESS IS SUBMITTED BY THE JUDGES AND THE ADULT PROBATION, WHAT THEY WANT IN THOSE LINE ITEMS AS IT COMES BACK ON A STATE FORM APPROVED.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO, WE CAN APPROVE LIKE SAID RAISE HERE, BUT THEY MIGHT NOT APPROVE ONE THE SAME GUYS OVER ANOTHER COUNTY.
YEAH, IF I'M THE STATE, EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHY I'M AMENDING THE BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FOR THE 200,000.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? EXPLAIN IT.
THIS WAS THE MONEY THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ON A RENT OF CAPITAL MURDER.
WE RECEIVED THAT GRANT, BUT THAT GRANT IS BEING ACCOUNTED FOR IN A DIFFERENT FUND NOW.
I DO NOT WANNA CARRY IT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
I'LL PAY THE GENERAL FUND BACK THE MONEY WE SPENT FRONT AND FROM NOW THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT OUT A DIFFERENT FUND.
BUT TRYING TO SET THOSE GRANTS UP IN DIFFERENT FUNDS, LIKE WHEN YOU GET THE SERVICE, THOSE ARE GONNA BE SET UP IN A DIFFERENT FUND.
SO THAT'S WHY I DID THIS, THAT ANSWER EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS.
OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THANK YOU.
NO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ROAR OUT ON 15TH.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE LIGHT ITEM TRANSFER.
THOSE OPPOSED BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE, UH, THERE ADDENDUM, UH, THAT I FORGOT ABOUT, UH, TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER, UH, UNIFORM SUBDIVISION PLAN, APPLICATION FEE SCHEDULE FORM.
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YOU PUT THAT ON THERE? I THINK SO.AND UH, I THINK VICKY HAD KANSAS ASSISTANT OVER THERE AND UH, CREATED THAT AND IT LOOKED LIKE THEY COVERED ALL, UH, EVERYBODY COPIES.
SO WE, IF WE GIVE THIS ONE SHOP TYPE BILL TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THEY CAN GIVE IT TO, TO MR. LANE TO COME IN AND EVERYBODY BE ON THE SAME PAGE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PAID.
LAURA, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS? YES.
I SO DOES THAT, THAT PARALLEL OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
DOES IT, DOES IT HAVE THE PRELIMINARY? YEAH, BUT ON THE, ON THE NO NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEY COULD STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS FORM AND THE COUNTY WILL COLLECT THE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ENGINEERS IS GONNA CHARGE US, RIGHT? WELL THIS IS WHAT THE RIGHT, THIS INCLUDES ALL THE UP THE COUNTY.
IT WILL ELIMINATE THE, THE, UH, NOT SUBMITTING THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.
THEY'LL TO SUBMIT THE PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY AND PAY THE CHARGES.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS UNIFORM SUBDIVISION APPLICATION FORM.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL ITEM NUMBER 16 IS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIM FOR BACON.
UH, CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $767,030 AND 93 SPLIT.
DID YOU FOR WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
NO, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS THE, UM, BUDGET AMENDMENT 2013.
THE MEDICAL DOWN FOR THE INMATES.
YOU STILL WANNA SEE IT? I IS THAT THE ONE
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ONE NETWORKS THOUSAND 201? YEAH.FOR EXTREME S DEATH AND CHARGED.
WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR WHAT IT WAS FOR EXACTLY.
I REMEMBER SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I EXACTLY WHAT? UM, EMERGENCY? YEAH, IT WAS ON THE 16TH.
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TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT SHE, BECAUSE SHE HAD QUESTIONED IT.WE SAW THAT T LAND IS THE DISTRICT COURT.
THAT MIGHT BE, I CAN'T, I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
YOUR WELL, THIS IS A, THIS IS CHARGE BEEN GOING BACK.
UNLESS YOUR, I UNLESS AIR CARDS.
YEAH, THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING RIGHT NOW.
THAT USUALLY RUNS US ANYWHERE FROM A THOUSAND, 10,000.
THE DELIVERY CHARGES 35, I DON'T KNOW
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FOR REAL CARE CHARACTER BACK THERE ON THE BACK ROAD.GEORGE SAYS IT STANDS FOR INTERNET, TELE NATIONAL DATA PROVIDED.
SO WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT'S THAT FOR
IN THE, UH, IN THE JAIL MEDICAL THERE'S 58 500 BILLS.
ONE PATIENT THAT IS FOR THE BUDGET MOVEMENT FOR LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL OF THEM.
YOU WANT ME TO PULL THAT ONE FOR YOU? SEVERAL PATIENTS, YES.
PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL PLEASE.
AND THAT'S PEOPLE IN THE JAIL THAT WENT OUT THERE, RIGHT? YES.
OH, THAT'S A HOOD IS IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF THEM.
NO, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS GET.
WE DON'T GET ACTUAL KITCHEN NAMES.
AND AS FAR AS, SO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT SOMEBODY WENT TO THE HOSPITAL? 'CAUSE THAT, DID SOMEBODY JAIL SIGN OFF ON THAT? YES, APPROVE IT.
SO IS THAT FROM ONE PERSON OR WHAT? WE HAD NO IDEA BECAUSE THE P LAW JUST WONDER IF IT HAD A PATIENT NUMBER SAYS SOURCE IS 14, BUT I DON'T KNOW THIS JAIL, JAIL HOSPITAL INPATIENT IS $150,000.
AND THEN IT BILL US, OUR PORTION OF IT 50 NOW BILL ONE INVOICE, ONE LINE ITEM.
SO SOMEBODY'S APPROVED THAT UP THERE.
IS THAT, UH, IS IT THAT PART OF IN HEALTHCARE? I BELIEVE THEY REVIEW THOSE, I BELIEVE IS WHAT I BELIEVE THEY REVIEW THOUGH.
IT SAYS, UH, I'LL WORK ON THAT.
SO THIS IS MEDICAL AND IT WAS SIGNED OFF BY THE JAIL.
A QUESTION, ANOTHER QUESTION HERE.
BECAUSE THAT'S JUST MATERIAL THERE.
I ASSUME 50 ON A RETROFIT WITH THE GLASS.
UM, A LOT OF THOSE GLASS WERE ELLIOT ELLIOT
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TER AMOUNT SLIP FITTER.LET'S SEE, 12 SLIP FITTERS WHAT? 12 SLIP FITTERS SLIP.
UH, PICKED WHAT? SLIP BIDS? FOUR 50 PIECE.
I THINK IT WAS, UH, LABS FOR THE LIBRARY.
ALL YES, IT WAS, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT WAS.
I REMEMBER WHEN HE SAID LIBRARY.
I THINK HE'S STILL IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE THE STUFF IS STILL THERE FRONT.
WE HAVE AGREEMENT WITH PAGE 38.
RIGHT? WHO WAS IT TO, I KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
IT'S A GRANT THAT WAS THAT MITIGATION? UH, WASN'T IT? NOT MITIGATION, BUT IT, YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS THE MITIGATION.
YEAH, I'VE GOT, I KNOW IY CHECKED PRETTY CLOSE.
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YES.EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER S FOLDER.
MAKE SURE SHE'S, I STAY UP AT NIGHT.
HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? OH, I SLEEP LIKE A BABY.
WHAT WAS THAT? SOLID WASTE DESIGN WASTE YOU HAS HAS IS A LICENSE FACILITY THAT AGAIN UNTIL JANUARY 14TH.
WE'RE THROUGH JUDGE, I HAVE A MOTION TO FAVOR BILL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL WHO WILL BE ADJOURNED? JIMMY, ARE YOU? OH YES.